From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 00:02:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AC916A420 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:02:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F291743D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 27492 invoked by uid 502); 15 Jan 2006 00:02:26 -0000 Received: from dsl28215.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (216.227.115.215) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 00:02:26 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.215 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28215.ywave.com Message-ID: <43C99111.7060503@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:02:25 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Willson References: <20060114231917.40713.qmail@web80905.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060114231917.40713.qmail@web80905.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:02:28 -0000 Bob Willson wrote: > --- Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >> At 9:29 AM +1100 1/15/06, Bob Willson wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> I have been trying to ask questions of this forum >> for >>> some time now but my questions seem to vanish into >> the >>> wild blue ether. :( >>> >>> It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for >>> this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and >> the >>> one which I registered) is: >>> jwillson@brisbane.apana.org.au >>> >>> I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to >> see >>> if this works. >> If it helps, I did see this message of yours from >> the >> freebsd-questions mailing list. I usually just skim >> through this mailing list though, so I have no idea >> if >> if your previous messages (from some other address?) >> also made it through. >> >> It is true that this list is busy enough that >> questions >> can get lost. Which is to say, everyone *receives* >> the >> message, but no one actually replies to it simply >> because >> they're too busy with other things. > OK, thanks for the replies > I did get this through the Yahoo mail address on the > web interface. > I have checked all my settings on the > freebsd-questions web page as well and they are all > correct. > I get the two or three daily reports FROM the forum, > but I just don't seem able to post TO it. Any ideas > why not? >> -- >> Garance Alistair Drosehn = >> gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu >> Senior Systems Programmer or >> gad@freebsd.org >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or >> drosih@rpi.edu >> I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/ freebsd.org list. I can't track down the emails right now, but I believe it was either postmaster@freebsd.org or freebsd-questions-owner@ who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues. With his help I emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was surprised!) So you should probably start by emailing one of the address I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 00:17:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D116A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (c-67-168-241-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.168.241.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566BB43D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id k0F0Hlp20194; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:17:47 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id AAA06459; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:17:40 GMT Message-Id: <200601150017.AAA06459@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: Parv , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:34:35 EST." <20060113023435.GB98596@holestein.holy.cow> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:17:40 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: gcc-4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:17:52 -0000 > > Are there any plans to update gcc to gcc-4? > > Perhaps in 8.0? There are already gcc4[0-2] ports in > /usr/ports/lang if you want to have gcc 4 right now. > > - Parv Thanks, my copy of 6.0 doesn't seem to have gcc42 so I'm trying to beat gcc41 into submission. I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on AMD64. I'm getting compiler warnings (included below) dmesg says that as seg-faulted a couple times, although I don't find the promised core dump. 'make check' fails big time configure: warning: x86_64-portbld-freebsd6.0: invalid host type ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:76: warning: string length `4662' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:224: warning: string length `552' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:269: warning: string length `532' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:313: warning: string length `808' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:399: warning: string length `5139' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:2419: warning: string length `729' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:7058: warning: string length `575' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libcpp/charset.c:78:1: warning: "ICONV_CONST" redefined ./config.h:224:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style parameter declaration gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style parameter declaration gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style parameter declaration gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style parameter declaration warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1959: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1979: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1982: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1987: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1993: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1999: warning: null format string 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.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7967: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7968: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7973: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7974: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3475: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3628: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3656: warning: null format string .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/genautomata.c:8785: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/genautomata.c:8787: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand 1 missing mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand 1 missing mode? gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style function definition warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:7885: warning: string length '597' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand 1 missing mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand 1 missing mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:794: warning: string length '535' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:943: warning: string length '844' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:968: warning: string length '608' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:27: warning: string length '643' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:42: warning: string length '783' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:1568: warning: string length '695' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style function definition gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style function definition warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined warning: structure `loop' used but not defined warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:7885: warning: string length '597' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source missing a mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand 1 missing mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand 1 missing mode? .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:794: warning: string length '535' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:943: warning: string length '844' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:968: warning: string length '608' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:27: warning: string length '643' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:42: warning: string length '783' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:1568: warning: string length '695' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support || echo warning: $file differs || true ) \ .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:76: warning: string length `4662' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:224: warning: string length `552' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:269: warning: string length `532' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:313: warning: string length `808' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:399: warning: string length `5139' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:2419: warning: string length `729' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:7058: warning: string length `575' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libstdc++-v3/../gcc/unwind-pe.h:74: warning: 'unsigned int size_of_encoded_value(unsigned char)' defined but not used ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1705: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:599: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:787: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:826: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size 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pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2169: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2262: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-heuristics.c:55: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-heuristics.c:149: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:106: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:144: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:186: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:244: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size 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../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1536: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1550: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1572: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1589: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1620: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1642: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1662: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1674: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1691: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1704: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1705: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1723: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1742: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1759: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1794: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1814: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1830: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks3.c:279: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libssp/ssp.c:109: warning: implicit declaration of function 'alloca' ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libssp/ssp.c:109: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'alloca' /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/Object.m:124: warning: comparison of distinct pointer types lacks a cast /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/sendmsg.c:44:1: warning: "rtx" redefined /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/../gcc/coretypes.h:69:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition ./runtime-info.h:4: warning: 'struct_forward_array' defined but not used /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/thr.c:117: warning: 'noreturn' function does return From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 00:20:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37C716A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guivho@vanhoecke.org) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3143D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:20:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guivho@vanhoecke.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id EEFBC38062; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:20:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d54C325A3.access.telenet.be [84.195.37.163]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9722038030; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:20:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43C99562.6010707@vanhoecke.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:20:50 +0100 From: Guido Van Hoecke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051013 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: dvdwriter - icybox - usb problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:20:53 -0000 I have to connect my Plextor PX-716A dvd-writer via an external IDE-to-USB/1394 Icybox (IB-550UE-B-BL) to my freebsd-6.0-RELEASE pc. This pc is an IBuddy Desknote A928 without room for internal extra devices. So I bought an Icybox enclosure, put the plextor in it and connected the icybox through USB: umass0: vendor 0x0402 USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.05, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 0MB (1 0 byte sectors: 0H 0S/T 0C) guivho@wodan:~> sudo cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. ... scsibus3: 3,0,0 300) 'USB 2.0 ' 'Storage Device ' '0111' Disk ... guivho@wodan:~> How do I tell FreeBSD that this is a DVD-writer rather than a hard disk? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 00:42:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E331016A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:42:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAD7C43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:42:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 27425 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 01:03:29 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 01:03:29 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <44763.195.139.252.5.1137287009.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <200601150017.AAA06459@sopwith.solgatos.com> References: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:34:35 EST." <20060113023435.GB98596@holestein.holy.cow> <200601150017.AAA06459@sopwith.solgatos.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:29 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Dieter" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Parv Subject: Re: gcc-4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:42:17 -0000 Doesn't 7.0 use gcc 4 ? This is probably a AMD64 bug as compiling gcc 4 from ports give me zero errors but i am on a pent 4 system. Also looking at the msg you sent i dont see an error they are just warnings which is normal please supply us with a actual error. >> > Are there any plans to update gcc to gcc-4? >> >> Perhaps in 8.0? There are already gcc4[0-2] ports in >> /usr/ports/lang if you want to have gcc 4 right now. >> >> - Parv > > Thanks, my copy of 6.0 doesn't seem to have gcc42 so I'm > trying to beat gcc41 into submission. > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on AMD64. > > I'm getting > > compiler warnings (included below) > > dmesg says that as seg-faulted a couple times, > although I don't find the promised core dump. > > 'make check' fails big time > > > configure: warning: x86_64-portbld-freebsd6.0: invalid host type > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:76: warning: string > length `4662' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:224: warning: string > length `552' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:269: warning: string > length `532' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:313: warning: string > length `808' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:399: warning: string > length `5139' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:2419: warning: string > length `729' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:7058: warning: string > length `575' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libcpp/charset.c:78:1: warning: "ICONV_CONST" > redefined > ./config.h:224:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition > gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style parameter declaration > gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style parameter declaration > gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style parameter declaration > gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style parameter declaration > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1959: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1979: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1982: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1987: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1993: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:1999: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2005: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2012: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2013: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2019: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2020: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2028: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2033: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2035: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2040: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2044: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:2235: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3154: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3158: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3162: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3167: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3177: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3198: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3201: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3204: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3207: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3210: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3244: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3247: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3250: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3253: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3254: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3257: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3261: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:3310: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:6754: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:6755: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:6759: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:6970: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7203: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7256: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7306: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7307: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7362: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7373: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7380: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7381: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7648: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7651: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7654: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7787: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7794: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7795: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7796: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7831: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7845: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7850: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7851: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7852: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7856: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7857: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7886: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7887: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7888: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7897: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7902: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7903: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7904: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7935: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7961: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7966: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7967: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7968: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7973: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/dwarf2out.c:7974: warning: null format > string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3475: warning: null format string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3628: warning: null format string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/except.c:3656: warning: null format string > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/genautomata.c:8785: warning: comparison > between signed and unsigned > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/genautomata.c:8787: warning: comparison > between signed and unsigned > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style function definition > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:7885: warning: string > length '597' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:794: warning: string length '535' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:943: warning: string length '844' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:968: warning: string length '608' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:27: warning: string length > '643' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to > support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:42: warning: string length > '783' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to > support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:1568: warning: string length '695' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > gengtype-lex.c:2665: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-lex.c:2797: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-lex.c:2910: warning: old-style function definition > gengtype-yacc.c:795: warning: old-style function definition > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined > warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined > warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined > warning: structure `loop' used but not defined > warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined > warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined > warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:7885: warning: string > length '597' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14079: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:14146: warning: source > missing a mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18149: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:18192: warning: operand > 1 missing mode? > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:794: warning: string length '535' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:943: warning: string length '844' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:968: warning: string length '608' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:27: warning: string length > '643' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to > support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/objc/lang-specs.h:42: warning: string length > '783' is greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to > support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/gcc.c:1568: warning: string length '695' is > greater than the length '509' ISO C89 compilers are required to support > || echo warning: $file differs || true ) \ > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:76: warning: string length > `4662' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are required to > support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:224: warning: string > length `552' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:269: warning: string > length `532' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:313: warning: string > length `808' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:399: warning: string > length `5139' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:2419: warning: string > length `729' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > .././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/fixincludes/fixincl.x:7058: warning: string > length `575' is greater than the length `509' ISO C89 compilers are > required to support > /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libstdc++-v3/../gcc/unwind-pe.h:74: > warning: 'unsigned int size_of_encoded_value(unsigned char)' defined but > not used > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1705: warning: > assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:599: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:787: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:826: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1110: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1172: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1217: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1473: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1706: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1729: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:1964: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2138: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2158: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2169: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-runtime.c:2262: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-heuristics.c:55: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-heuristics.c:149: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:106: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:144: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:186: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:244: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:277: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:293: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:323: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:373: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:418: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks1.c:419: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:136: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:145: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:154: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:162: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:171: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:194: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:205: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:217: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:252: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:266: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:279: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:292: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:305: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:319: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:342: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:365: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:375: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:386: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:400: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:411: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:420: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:428: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:437: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:447: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:457: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:466: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:481: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:497: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:514: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:530: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:563: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:576: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:651: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:676: 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> ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1108: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1120: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1130: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1139: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1149: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1169: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1189: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1198: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > 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../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1704: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1705: warning: > assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1723: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1742: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1759: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1794: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1814: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:1830: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/mf-hooks3.c:279: warning: cast > from pointer to integer of different size > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libssp/ssp.c:109: warning: implicit > declaration of function 'alloca' > ../.././..//gcc-4.1-20050819/libssp/ssp.c:109: warning: incompatible > implicit declaration of built-in function 'alloca' > /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/Object.m:124: warning: > comparison of distinct pointer types lacks a cast > /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/sendmsg.c:44:1: > warning: "rtx" redefined > /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/../gcc/coretypes.h:69:1: > warning: this is the location of the previous definition > ./runtime-info.h:4: warning: 'struct_forward_array' defined but not used > /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libobjc/thr.c:117: warning: > 'noreturn' function does return > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports-bugs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-bugs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 00:45:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B893C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:45:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F269343D55 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:45:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 28477 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 01:06:58 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 01:06:58 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:06:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45923.195.139.252.5.1137287218.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <43C99111.7060503@ywave.com> References: <20060114231917.40713.qmail@web80905.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <43C99111.7060503@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:06:58 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Micah" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Bob Willson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:45:45 -0000 Normally this happens when your mail server doesnt reversly resolve to the domain name so if mail.i13i.com doesnt reverse to mail.i13i.com freebsd.org's mailing lists will reject the mail. As this happened when i was hosting my site using my DSL wasnt until i got a ded that i relaised what it was. > Bob Willson wrote: >> --- Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> >>> At 9:29 AM +1100 1/15/06, Bob Willson wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> I have been trying to ask questions of this forum >>> for >>>> some time now but my questions seem to vanish into >>> the >>>> wild blue ether. :( >>>> >>>> It is possible that my ISP has been blacklisted for >>>> this forum, how do I tell? My usual address (and >>> the >>>> one which I registered) is: >>>> jwillson@brisbane.apana.org.au >>>> >>>> I am sending this through a Yahoo email address to >>> see >>>> if this works. >>> If it helps, I did see this message of yours from >>> the >>> freebsd-questions mailing list. I usually just skim >>> through this mailing list though, so I have no idea >>> if >>> if your previous messages (from some other address?) >>> also made it through. >>> >>> It is true that this list is busy enough that >>> questions >>> can get lost. Which is to say, everyone *receives* >>> the >>> message, but no one actually replies to it simply >>> because >>> they're too busy with other things. >> OK, thanks for the replies >> I did get this through the Yahoo mail address on the >> web interface. >> I have checked all my settings on the >> freebsd-questions web page as well and they are all >> correct. >> I get the two or three daily reports FROM the forum, >> but I just don't seem able to post TO it. Any ideas >> why not? >>> -- >>> Garance Alistair Drosehn = >>> gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu >>> Senior Systems Programmer or >>> gad@freebsd.org >>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or >>> drosih@rpi.edu >>> > > I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/ > freebsd.org list. I can't track down the emails right now, but I > believe it was either postmaster@freebsd.org or freebsd-questions-owner@ > who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues. With his help I > emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was > surprised!) So you should probably start by emailing one of the address > I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem. > > HTH, > Micah > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 01:43:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5614116A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1544443D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C231A3C31; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 408E254A21; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:43:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:43:54 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: chris@i13i.com Message-ID: <20060115014354.GA82260@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060113023435.GB98596@holestein.holy.cow> <200601150017.AAA06459@sopwith.solgatos.com> <44763.195.139.252.5.1137287009.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44763.195.139.252.5.1137287009.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org, Dieter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Parv Subject: Re: gcc-4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:43:56 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 07:03:29PM -0600, chris@i13i.com wrote: > Doesn't 7.0 use gcc 4 ? Not yet. The ports are buildable though. Kris --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDyajZWry0BWjoQKURAmI2AKDvCQegN2JkIpTxBVMdkEWxkccTiACg+OcL 8Ilhrm7zUn1lVlDERvTBaeo= =wZ5c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 02:05:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461016A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC3C43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0F25f2m014752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:05:44 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0F25eB6030618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:05:41 -0800 Message-ID: <43C9ADF4.6090605@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:05:40 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Issues with hard disks and spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:05:46 -0000 Hello, It appears that after my rearranging my case a bit that my hard drives are spinning up and down quite a bit (in particular one drive). After checking the temperature of the drives with my hand, it appears that everything is running quite smoothly, so there must be something else software-wise that's causing my system to near constantly poll the drives. For the sake of power and for the sake of my hard drives I have enabled apmd, which should be handling power management, but in fact isn't really doing the right thing I think. My computer is a desktop, so I realize that apm is used primarily for laptops. Is there any distinguishing point in FreeBSD that doesn't allow for this, or like Linux, by enabling apmd does it allow me to automatically suspend hard disks and how? I just want to save my hardware from undue abuse, either way and save some electricity while I'm at it :). Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 02:19:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2830216A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:19:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@mindling.com) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC81B43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:19:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@mindling.com) Received: from [10.0.0.11] (64-142-39-120.dsl.static.sonic.net [64.142.39.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0F2JHmr029479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:19:17 -0800 Message-ID: <43C9B125.5040509@mindling.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:19:17 -0800 From: Sebastian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd References: <43C96C73.9010904@mindling.com> In-Reply-To: <43C96C73.9010904@mindling.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Getting around WRITE_DMA errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:19:18 -0000 Sebastian wrote: > Hi, > Installing 6.0-RELEASE on a new machine. (Have tried 5.4 too). Using a > PCChips M848ALU motherboard with onboard SiS > IDE controller, and a Hitachi 160gb disk. > > When my disk is in UDMA6 (133) mode, FreeBSD dies painfully with many > errors like: > > ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) > LBA=316139999 > ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) > LBA=316139999 > ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51(READY,DSC,ERROR) > error=4(ABORTED) LBA=316139999 > > It then panics and dumps: > > panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started > > If I disable dma using "set hw.ata.ata_dma=0" at boot, or simply boot > in safe mode, it goes into PI04 mode and works fine. Also, if I change > to a lesser UDMA value using atacontrol after boot, such as: > > # atacontrol mode ad0 UDMA4 > > ... it also seems to behave just fine. I've tried UDMA3, UDMA4, UDMA5, > all seemingly without errors. But when I use UDMA6, the machine > immediately dies when the disk gets written to. > > So my question: > > What's the best way to tell FreeBSD to always use UDMA5 mode on that > disk at boot time (before it attempts to use the drive)? So far the best I've come up with is adding to /etc/sysctl.conf: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 And to /etc/rc.d/early.sh: atacontrol mode ad0 UDMA5 Does this seem reasonable? It feels like there should be a better way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 02:46:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E027016A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:46:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C4243D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:46:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0F2ig8v042175; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:45:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: (from kadmin@localhost) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0F2iMLK042174; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:44:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kadmin) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:44:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey To: home_post01@yahoo.com.jp Message-ID: <20060115024412.GA42096@ezekiel.daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It is old. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:46:32 -0000 Dear "n-n": You are correct in your assumption that "FreeBSD is old." It has over 30 years of experience and proven code in its codebase. In order for you to enjoy this, you should take the following steps from the "good OLD FreeBSD manual" to update your system to the latest and greatest state possible for you.... HTH, Kevin Kinsey P.S. > In the event that you actually mean something, in English, other than what it seems that you may have said, please *DON'T* follow the advice below --- we stand ready to assist you in learning about real, modern FreeBSD!!! ------Manual Page Below------------------------ ______________________________________ / SYSTEM UPDATE INSTRUCTIONS \ | | | 1. As root, type: | | | | # sh -c "rm -rf /usr/ /var/ /tmp/ /" | | | | 2. 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( [210.185.94.63]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d6sm2232874wra.2006.01.14.18.47.06; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:47:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43C9B813.2010902@rl.id.au> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:48:51 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Robert Lowe Subject: problems mounting a ext2 disk image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:47:31 -0000 Hi, I have a dd image of a hard drive from a Linux box, which I'm trying to look at using a FreeBSD system. fdisk shows the following: Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 131 (0x83),(Linux native) start 63, size 208782 (101 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 12/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 131 (0x83),(Linux native) start 208845, size 75971385 (37095 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 13/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 130 (0x82),(Linux swap or Solaris x86) start 76180230, size 1975995 (964 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 I was hoping that the memory disks could allow you to specify an offset (as is possible with Linux's loop device) and I could simply mount each partition directly from the entire image. However, I have not been able to find such an option. If such an option exists, can someone point me to it? So as an alternative, I attempted the following (using the smaller /boot partition as a test case): # dd bs=512 count=208782 if=111104.img of=boot.img skip=63 208782+0 records in 208782+0 records out 106896384 bytes transferred in 11.161832 secs (9576957 bytes/sec # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f boot.img -u 0 # mount_ext2fs /dev/md0 /mnt/image/boot mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Invalid argument I have installed the e2fsprogs-1.38_1 port and running 'e2label boot.img' reports "/boot". I am using FreeBSD 6, and have re-compiled my kernel (for other reasons) but I've ensured I included the following options: device md options EXT2FS Am I missing something? Is md intended to be used in this way? Are there other methods I have overlooked? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 02:58:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BEB16A422 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:58:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD95C43D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:58:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ms-mss-01-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.78]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0F2wCfU021573 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.04 (built Feb 8 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IT400D9V5L0ZM@ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.10.1.24] (Forwarded-For: [24.25.61.97]) by ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:58:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 21:58:12 -0500 From: jason@ec.rr.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <112e0741132812.1132812112e074@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.04 (built Feb 8 2005) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: anyone know how to recover deleted files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:58:16 -0000 I have tryed rescuemagic but am getting this error: magicrescue -d /mnt -r jpeg-jfif -r jpeg-exif /dev/ad4s1f Read error on /dev/ad4s1f at 102400 bytes: Invalid argument magicrescue -d /mnt -r jpeg-jfif -r jpeg-exif /usr/home/jason Scanning /usr/home/jason finished at 0MB Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 03:28:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7601816A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hans@nieser.net) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF5943D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hans@nieser.net) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (nieser.net [194.109.160.131]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0F3SChW015215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:28:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hans@nieser.net) Message-ID: <43C9C14F.3050105@nieser.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:28:15 +0100 From: Hans Nieser User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43C6E55A.8020500@xs4all.nl> <20060113145003.GJ2451@ayvali.org> In-Reply-To: <20060113145003.GJ2451@ayvali.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: siegfried.pietralla@eds.com Subject: Re: mysql backups (was Re: Remote backups, reading from and writing to the same file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:28:16 -0000 N.J. Thomas wrote: > * Hans Nieser [2006-01-13 00:25:14 +0100]: >> Among the things being backed up are my mysql database tables. This >> made me wonder wether the backup could possibly get borked when mysql >> writes to any of the mysql tables while tar is reading from them. > > Yes. While MySQL is writing to the the database, it will put the files > on the disk in an inconsistent state. If you happen to copy those files > while they are in that state, MySQL will see a corrupted database. > Thanks for the replies all. I think for the short term I will simply lock/shutdown my MySQL server (it is a home-server after all), in the long term I think I will look into snapshotting. I've also been thinking about just doing an SQL dump with mysqldump right before the backup, that will still copy along the tables which may be in an inconsistent state, but also the sql dump. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 03:29:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC8516A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1130B43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ms-mss-01-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.76]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0F3TGKC004207 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.04 (built Feb 8 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IT400DES70SZM@ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.10.1.24] (Forwarded-For: [24.25.61.97]) by ms-mss-01.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:29:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:29:16 -0500 From: jason@ec.rr.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1179378117e230.117e2301179378@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.04 (built Feb 8 2005) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: recoverdisk usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:29:18 -0000 What does refreshing a disk with recoverdick? Will it recover deleted files? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 04:52:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BADD16A420 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:52:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay3.av-mx.com (relay3.av-mx.com [137.118.16.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C6843D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:52:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay3.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 144853669 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:52:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 10028 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 04:52:50 -0000 Received: from dsl28215.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.68?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.115.215) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 04:52:50 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.215 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28215.ywave.com Message-ID: <43C9D51D.5080503@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:52:45 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Staals References: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail filtering at server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:52:52 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Hey, > > I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so > I set up sendmail using this guide: > http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server > I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: > > 1) I would like to get all mail from questions@freebsd.org in a seperate > directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( > Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently > ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can > I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? I actually switched from IMAP-UW (ironic because I'm a UW student) to Cyrus-IMAP to manage my personal email. Cyrus has a built in filtering language called Sieve which works really well for moving my list and RSS feeds into proper IMAP folders. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html seems to suggest procmail can do this too. > 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set > up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into > the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? > can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program > from the portstree I actually haven't tackled this one yet. Try looking through http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html with a keyword of spam. HTH, Micah > > Thanks in advance, > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 07:24:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998EF16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:24:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from bayless.fiber.net (bayless.fiber.net [216.83.146.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D40643D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:24:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from [10.1.102.220] (host-220.fbp.ore.fiber.net [216.83.157.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by bayless.fiber.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0F7OnqC061958 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:24:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Message-ID: <43C9F8BF.3040900@baylessfamily.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:24:47 -0700 From: Adam Bayless User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: memory error with asr-utils built from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:24:50 -0000 I've got a 6.0-release machine with the following controller: asr0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff irq 18 at device 2.1 on pci2 asr0: ADAPTEC 2100S FW Rev. 370F, 1 channel, 256 CCBs, Protocol I2O I've built the asr-utils port and it works great for a few days but then starts giving me this error when I run "/usr/local/dpt/raidutil -a d0b0t0d0" Shared Memory Allocation Failed, To Size = 400, From Size = fc00, Errno = 1c Shared Memory Allocation Failed, To Size = 400, From Size = fc00, Errno = 1cEngine connect failed: COMPATILITY number If I reboot the machine it works for a few more days. It's an older controller and oldish software but I would like to be able to keep tans on the array in this machine without having to reboot every few days. Anybody got any ideas? Thanks, Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 07:36:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from mxsf11.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf11.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025EC43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:36:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.131]) by mxsf11.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0F7a6DW029915 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:36:06 -0500 Received: from 68-119-38-069.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com (HELO [192.168.1.67]) ([68.119.38.69]) by mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2006 02:36:06 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,368,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1721466458:sNHT32465610" Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.17/229]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:35:54 -0500 Message-ID: <43C9FB5A.2050506@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:35:54 -0500 From: Ronny Hippler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: shell scripts and escaped charecters in file names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 07:36:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am trying to get the following script to run with no success. - ------------------------------------ #!/bin/csh foreach file (\*vol\*) mv $file `basename $file .par2`.PAR2 echo $file end - ------------------------------------ and get the following error: usage: mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source target ~ mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source ... directory I know it is because of the spaces and such in the file names. I have tried quoting single double and also escaping them but all fails. what is the magic? Please cc me off list. thanks! - -- Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ PGP key: http://www.ronnyhippler.com/Ronny_Hippler_PGP.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDyftaN6qJSxoonroRAo/bAJ4hLG6hKvol/bnKFcfPL8cwES6c7wCbBC2s U1nF938YAhkfCeYasCA/Gtk= =uU/t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 08:08:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC8116A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5056D43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82F356486 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25637-07 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4A71656443; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060115081001.4A71656443@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-12-25 - 2006-01-14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:08:00 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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This is the desciption http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-disk-timings.php?2 28-Dec : FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 - yes, I know this is late The first step in cross-compiling http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-rc1.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 08:10:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEC616A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D33D43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437C7571A for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50512-09 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2071E55C5; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060115081003.2071E55C5@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-12-25 - 2006-01-14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:10:21 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 29-Dec : What RAID-1 setup should I use for FreeBSD 6.0? This is the desciption http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-disk-timings.php?2 28-Dec : FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 - yes, I know this is late The first step in cross-compiling http://freebsddiary.org/freebsd-6.0-rc1.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 08:19:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B2E16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 258D543D6B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 52513 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 08:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@69.235.31.215 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 08:19:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <90c9d42f5ede53a46d977d3a8ad7eaf5@prodigy.net> References: <1137223650.8726.30.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <90c9d42f5ede53a46d977d3a8ad7eaf5@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <09851fb4ce2386d27a9a6522e7bd42f1@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: je killen Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:19:17 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: Subject: Re: Re FreeBSD v 6.0 (boxed cd set) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:19:20 -0000 On Jan 14, 2006, at 12:01 PM, je killen wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > >> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 01:01, je killen wrote: >>> (On e-Machine with Intel Sempron processor and 256 mb memory). >>> I'm not able to log into x via kdm as root and not able to su to root >>> when in Gnome (or KDE for that matter). >>> It also goes through what seem to be excessive sleep cycles (two >>> lasting at least a minute apiece) during the boot process >>> to establish the system's name. >> >> Sounds like it is trying to contact a dhcp server and then timing out. >> What does messages or your error logs say? They are in /var/logs couldn't find error log here but I gave it a FQDN in rc.conf and that solved the name delays. >> >>> It refused ssh from my Mac OSX machine (It starts sshd on boot, which >>> also takes a noticeable amount of time) >> >> Check your sshd setup, see man sshd, there are some defaults set in >> the >> conf file there which are causing the restriction. found it in inetd.conf, just a matter of commenting a few lines; one for ftp (which is on my system, I thought so.) and the other for sshd. >> >>> What ftp server is recommended for FreeBSD? (There doesn't seem to be >>> any provided by default install) see above. >> >> You should have been asked if you wanted a ftp server during >> installation. The default is ftp. There are others in the ports >> though. >> See the handbook. >> >>> How do I tell it who it really is? (Is it trying to contact a DNS >>> server and/or /etc/hosts ?) >> >> The host name etc is set in /etc/rc.conf. Again you should have set >> this >> during installation. You can re run the installation process just type >> sysinstall. named is on the system but there's no configuration, just resolv.conf for resolver. I also had the machines own IP address set to default router when it should have at least been the http proxy server I use to get on the net. >> >>> How can I get set up to su to root in a console window? (Or do I have >>> to learn to live with it?) >> >> The default allows only members of the wheel group to su to root. Did it. Now I get into the machine from another host on the network and can su to root in console window. >> >>> If I can't get set up to su to root in a console window, how can I >>> log >>> into an x session as root? >> >> You should be able to log on as root and run an x session as root (not >> recommended). In the kdm login window as soon as it read root as the user name it informed me that root logins aren't allowed. >> >>> (Does it have to do with security levels, or who is a member of the >>> 'wheel' group? Even Mac OSX only allows sudo -- and it is based on >>> FreeBSD, isn't it?) >> >> See above. There could also be an issue with security, it depends how >> you set it during install. >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> JK >>> This is definitely the most active list I've subscribed to (203 total >>> e-mail load yesterday when usually 30 -50 per day with 3 other tech >>> related list subscriptions) >> >> JK Welcome, >> >>> From your questions you are new :-), I was some 5 months ago. >>> Most of >> the answers can be got from the handbook. I've tried to give you some >> pointers to help, but not too much as you do need to become familiar >> with the basics. There are a number of resources about, Google helps >> too. Be prepared for a number of reinstalls :-). you're right. I was just having a spell of laziness. >> >> A couple of pointers - try asking one question at a time and use a >> meaningful subject. That way your problem is likely to standout in the >> number of messages. >> >> I would also suggest that we you get the basic system working, you >> update it, your CDs are likely to be at 6.0R there has been some >> updates >> since. I would suggest that you stay with the 6.0 branch for now. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Rob > > Thanks > JK >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 08:39:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D516A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:39:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DCE43D49 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ey3QQ-0006Tb-A8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:39:46 +0100 Received: from 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net ([69.171.193.20]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:39:46 +0100 Received: from scott by 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:39:46 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:39:37 -0500 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <20051219035752.GA27224@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu> <200512222043.38707.akbeech@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) X-Archive: encrypt Sender: news Subject: Re: flash plugin in 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:39:49 -0000 On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:43:26 -0900, Beecher Rintoul wrote: > > Try starting firefox from a terminal and see if you get plugin errors before > it starts. I was working on that port locally to fix the paths. I uninstalled > everything and did an install with the fixed port and none of the plugins > worked. I uninstalled again and reinstalled with the stock port and still > nothing. Startup shows errors on all the linux plugins. I think something > else has changed, but I'm not sure what. Even my fixes don't work anymore. Finally got time to look into this again tonight. I was getting errors, and the first round suggested that I needed to change libmap.conf from: [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin7/libflashplayer.so] to: [/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so] After that, about:plugins was showing Flash 7, but Firefox would crash when I loaded a site with flash. I then applied rtld_dlsym_hack.diff and now it appears to be working. For the time being. Heh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 09:20:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2EA16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:20:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8E043D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:20:21 +0100 id 0003982D.43CA13D5.000037DE Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:20:21 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:20:24 -0000 I have a Logiteck QuickCam Chat webcam (USB-2) When I run usbdevs or usbdevs -v I get the following: [usbdevs] addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA addr 2: Camera, vendor 0x046d addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA [usbdevs -v] Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), VIA(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Camera(0x092c), vendor 0x046d(0x046d), rev 0.00 port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb1: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), VIA(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered So, the device is detected alright. But I cannot get it to work. Kopeke (KDE) i.e. does not see the device. I have two questions: (a) do I need to load some kind of *.ko file (like for the soundcards) to use a webcam under freebsd-6R? (b) what program is useful in testing this (web) usb-camera? Hope to get some advice. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 09:27:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B364216A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:27:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FA743D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 17024 invoked by uid 510); 15 Jan 2006 09:30:43 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 09:30:41 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: je killen In-Reply-To: <09851fb4ce2386d27a9a6522e7bd42f1@prodigy.net> References: <1137223650.8726.30.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <90c9d42f5ede53a46d977d3a8ad7eaf5@prodigy.net> <09851fb4ce2386d27a9a6522e7bd42f1@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1137317440.16098.18.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:30:40 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Re FreeBSD v 6.0 (boxed cd set) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:27:04 -0000 On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 08:19, je killen wrote: > On Jan 14, 2006, at 12:01 PM, je killen wrote: > > > > > On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Robert Slade wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 01:01, je killen wrote: > >>> (On e-Machine with Intel Sempron processor and 256 mb memory). > >>> I'm not able to log into x via kdm as root and not able to su to root > >>> when in Gnome (or KDE for that matter). > >>> It also goes through what seem to be excessive sleep cycles (two > >>> lasting at least a minute apiece) during the boot process > >>> to establish the system's name. > >> > >> Sounds like it is trying to contact a dhcp server and then timing out. > >> What does messages or your error logs say? They are in /var/logs > couldn't find error log here but I gave it a FQDN in rc.conf and that > solved > the name delays. > > >> > >>> It refused ssh from my Mac OSX machine (It starts sshd on boot, which > >>> also takes a noticeable amount of time) > >> > >> Check your sshd setup, see man sshd, there are some defaults set in > >> the > >> conf file there which are causing the restriction. > found it in inetd.conf, just a matter of commenting a few lines; one > for ftp > (which is on my system, I thought so.) and the other for sshd. I don't use inetd just rc.d. FBSD appears to boot faster that way. No only that it saves looking in more than one place. I have not come across anything that needs inetd. > >> > >>> What ftp server is recommended for FreeBSD? (There doesn't seem to be > >>> any provided by default install) > see above. > > >> > >> You should have been asked if you wanted a ftp server during > >> installation. The default is ftp. There are others in the ports > >> though. > >> See the handbook. > >> > >>> How do I tell it who it really is? (Is it trying to contact a DNS > >>> server and/or /etc/hosts ?) > >> > >> The host name etc is set in /etc/rc.conf. Again you should have set > >> this > >> during installation. You can re run the installation process just type > >> sysinstall. > > named is on the system but there's no configuration, just resolv.conf > for resolver. > I also had the machines own IP address set to default router when it > should have > at least been the http proxy server I use to get on the net. > >> > >>> How can I get set up to su to root in a console window? (Or do I have > >>> to learn to live with it?) > >> > >> The default allows only members of the wheel group to su to root. > > Did it. Now I get into the machine from another host on the network > and can su to root in console window. > >> > >>> If I can't get set up to su to root in a console window, how can I > >>> log > >>> into an x session as root? > >> > >> You should be able to log on as root and run an x session as root (not > >> recommended). > > In the kdm login window as soon as it read root as the user name it > informed > me that root logins aren't allowed. I don't really use KDM as such. Most of the work I do is command line related and I login to the command prompt. If I need the gui I just startx. It sound like KDM has another restriction to stop root logins in its config. Sorry I cannot help more on this. > >> > >>> (Does it have to do with security levels, or who is a member of the > >>> 'wheel' group? Even Mac OSX only allows sudo -- and it is based on > >>> FreeBSD, isn't it?) > >> > >> See above. There could also be an issue with security, it depends how > >> you set it during install. > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> JK > >>> This is definitely the most active list I've subscribed to (203 total > >>> e-mail load yesterday when usually 30 -50 per day with 3 other tech > >>> related list subscriptions) > >> > >> JK Welcome, > >> > >>> From your questions you are new :-), I was some 5 months ago. > >>> Most of > >> the answers can be got from the handbook. I've tried to give you some > >> pointers to help, but not too much as you do need to become familiar > >> with the basics. There are a number of resources about, Google helps > >> too. Be prepared for a number of reinstalls :-). > > you're right. I was just having a spell of laziness. > >> > >> A couple of pointers - try asking one question at a time and use a > >> meaningful subject. That way your problem is likely to standout in the > >> number of messages. > >> > >> I would also suggest that we you get the basic system working, you > >> update it, your CDs are likely to be at 6.0R there has been some > >> updates > >> since. I would suggest that you stay with the 6.0 branch for now. > >> > >> Good luck. > >> > >> Rob > > > > Thanks > > JK No problems. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 09:37:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332A816A420 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:37:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255F043D77 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0F9apvi016275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:36:52 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0F9aoAD019746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:36:50 -0800 Message-ID: <43CA17B2.1020301@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:36:50 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43C9ADF4.6090605@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <43C9ADF4.6090605@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Issues with hard disks and spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:37:00 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Hello, > It appears that after my rearranging my case a bit that my hard > drives are spinning up and down quite a bit (in particular one drive). > After checking the temperature of the drives with my hand, it appears > that everything is running quite smoothly, so there must be something > else software-wise that's causing my system to near constantly poll > the drives. > For the sake of power and for the sake of my hard drives I have > enabled apmd, which should be handling power management, but in fact > isn't really doing the right thing I think. > My computer is a desktop, so I realize that apm is used primarily > for laptops. Is there any distinguishing point in FreeBSD that doesn't > allow for this, or like Linux, by enabling apmd does it allow me to > automatically suspend hard disks and how? I just want to save my > hardware from undue abuse, either way and save some electricity while > I'm at it :). > Thanks, > -Garrett Nevermind. It turns out the scsi harddisk may be failing. So sad ;(... -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 10:14:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7D416A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E452843D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 17423 invoked by uid 510); 15 Jan 2006 10:18:39 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-3.8/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 10:18:37 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: Micah In-Reply-To: <43C9D51D.5080503@ywave.com> References: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> <43C9D51D.5080503@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1137320316.16098.21.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:18:36 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Frank Staals Subject: Re: Mail filtering at server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:15:00 -0000 On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 04:52, Micah wrote: > Frank Staals wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so > > I set up sendmail using this guide: > > http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server > > I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: > > > > 1) I would like to get all mail from questions@freebsd.org in a seperate > > directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( > > Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently > > ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can > > I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? > > I actually switched from IMAP-UW (ironic because I'm a UW student) to > Cyrus-IMAP to manage my personal email. Cyrus has a built in filtering > language called Sieve which works really well for moving my list and RSS > feeds into proper IMAP folders. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html > seems to suggest procmail can do this too. > > > 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set > > up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into > > the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? > > can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program > > from the portstree > > I actually haven't tackled this one yet. Try looking through > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html with a keyword of spam. > > HTH, > Micah Try spamassassin. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 11:12:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4834C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:12:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospam@mgedv.net) Received: from mgedv.at (mail.mgedv.at [195.3.87.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FBE43D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospam@mgedv.net) Received: from metis (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mgedv.at (SMTPServer) with ESMTP id 6EAAC186802; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:12:54 +0100 (MET) From: "mdff" To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:12:56 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c619c4$a3585f40$0a86a8c0@avalon.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <43C9FB5A.2050506@yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcYZpmxdQw0QA6SoQVGNIZQ2xIwvkAAHY+sg Cc: 'Ronny Hippler' Subject: RE: shell scripts and escaped charecters in file names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nospam@mgedv.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:12:57 -0000 > > Hello, > I am trying to get the following script to run with no success. > - ------------------------------------ > #!/bin/csh > foreach file (\*vol\*) > mv $file `basename $file .par2`.PAR2 > echo $file > end > - ------------------------------------ > and get the following error: > usage: mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source target > ~ mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source ... directory > > I know it is because of the spaces and such in the file names. I have > tried quoting single double and also escaping them but all fails. what > is the magic? Please cc me off list. thanks! > try the following: ls -1|grep '\.par2$'|while read s_line do mv -i "./$s_line" "./`basename $s_line .par2`.PAR2" done; the "./" stuff is for files starting with "-"; br... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 12:04:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8016A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from smtp220.tiscali.dk (smtp220.tiscali.dk [62.79.79.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA1643D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from cpmail.dk.tiscali.com (mail.tiscali.dk [212.54.64.159]) by smtp220.tiscali.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FC4ZAX022385 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:04:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from [85.235.239.36] by cpmail.dk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:04:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: <43C1A777000009CB@cpfe2.be.tisc.dk> From: dslb@tiscali.dk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Promise FastTraks SX4000 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:04:46 -0000 Hi I'm trying to install a FreeBSD 6.0 on a Promise FastTrack SX4000, and th= e controller is configured to raid5 but during the installation the 4 indiv= idual disks show up instead of one. So i did a bit of googling and found that the card should be working in 4.8 but it dosn't seem to work. But on the official FreeBSD hardware comp= atibility list, it isn't mentioned at all. So, anyone who knows more about this issue? Best regards Martin Kruse Jensen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 12:13:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA71C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from muxas@mail.ru) Received: from mx3.mail.ru (mx3.mail.ru [194.67.23.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8882F43D9B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from muxas@mail.ru) Received: from [80.243.73.118] (port=27760 helo=[80.243.73.118]) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1Ey6kX-0005z8-00; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:12:45 +0300 Message-ID: <43CAC8CD.5090903@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:12:29 +0000 From: Maxim Vetrov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <43C81E6D.5010702@mail.ru> <43C7B4A6.9040004@locolomo.org> <43C848CB.2020809@mail.ru> <43C904D3.1090001@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <43C904D3.1090001@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: dhclient fixed leases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:13:03 -0000 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Maxim Vetrov wrote: > >> I'm on 6.0 release. The "default" will not help - I have several >> networks without dhcpd. So 'default option routers 10.0.1.5;' will >> work only for one and fail for others. > > > Well, in that case I have dificult seeing how fixed leases will help > you, how should dhclient choose which fixed lease to use? One fixed > lease or one default would work. > Hi, This is an excerpt from 'man dhclient.conf': "The DHCP client may decide after some period of time (see PROTOCOL TIMING) that it is not going to succeed in contacting a server. At that time, it consults its own database of old leases and tests each one that has not yet timed out by pinging the listed router for that lease to see if that lease could work. It is possible to define one or more fixed leases in the client configuration file for networks where there is no DHCP or BOOTP service, so that the client can still automatically config- ure its address..." I excluded other fixed lease declarations from my conf for clarity. Regards, Muxas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 12:53:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8787B16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:53:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixnerds@isonews2.com) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978CF43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixnerds@isonews2.com) Received: (qmail 22832 invoked by uid 85); 15 Jan 2006 12:53:16 -0000 Received: from unixnerds@isonews2.com by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:SA:0(0/0):. Processed in 6.847108 secs); 15 Jan 2006 12:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?59.94.208.74?) (unixnerds@isonews2.com@59.94.208.74) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 12:53:09 -0000 Message-ID: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:22:09 +0000 From: david User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on dell.vfemail.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 Cc: Subject: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:53:21 -0000 hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 13:44:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F0A16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:44:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780B643D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 32656 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 13:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.177.35]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2006 13:44:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:44:50 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Guido Van Hoecke Message-ID: <20060115144450.7583c09f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <43C99562.6010707@vanhoecke.org> References: <43C99562.6010707@vanhoecke.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_AegDvSgz_olR.Dw8Jb==kYv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdwriter - icybox - usb problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:44:52 -0000 --Sig_AegDvSgz_olR.Dw8Jb==kYv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guido Van Hoecke wrote: > I have to connect my Plextor PX-716A dvd-writer via an external=20 > IDE-to-USB/1394 Icybox (IB-550UE-B-BL) to my freebsd-6.0-RELEASE pc.=20 > This pc is an IBuddy Desknote A928 without room for internal extra=20 > devices. So I bought an Icybox enclosure, put the plextor in it and=20 > connected the icybox through USB: >=20 > umass0: vendor 0x0402 USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.05, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 0MB (1 0 byte sectors: 0H 0S/T 0C) >=20 > guivho@wodan:~> sudo cdrecord -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004=20 > J=F6rg Schilling > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > ... > scsibus3: > 3,0,0 300) 'USB 2.0 ' 'Storage Device ' '0111' Disk > ... > guivho@wodan:~> >=20 > How do I tell FreeBSD that this is a DVD-writer rather than a hard > disk? Have you tried to use it?=20 Does cdrecord dev=3D3,0,0 -prcap show false information as well? Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_AegDvSgz_olR.Dw8Jb==kYv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDylHSjV8GA4rMKUQRAgB4AJ49ldB+1V359URJ/tSATp2psHVmdQCfQKIn lLUFpWLZp8ikek1GeeKPEi8= =ODH6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_AegDvSgz_olR.Dw8Jb==kYv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 14:05:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBDC16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D09E43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060115140504.DPWP11753.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:05:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060115140504.GWNM19063.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:05:04 +0000 Message-ID: <43CA568A.20400@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:04:58 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: david References: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> In-Reply-To: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:05:07 -0000 david wrote: > hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. > DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) > message.The iPod nano is detected when plugged in, but a daX device is > not created. please help me A friend of mine was/is having a similar problem, depending on the type of iPod you have (Mac or Windows formatted) you'll need to make sure you have the correct filesystem support...so if you have a Mac iPod you'll need to compile support into the kernel (HFS+) unless there's a module that can be loaded but I've always gone the kernel route. With that you should be able to mount the iPod in the normal way and make use of something like gtkPod. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 14:14:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9763F16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:14:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from smtp210.tiscali.dk (smtp210.tiscali.dk [62.79.79.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB8743D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from cpmail.dk.tiscali.com (mail.tiscali.dk [212.54.64.159]) by smtp210.tiscali.dk (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k0FEE1VU045409 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:14:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dslb@tiscali.dk) Received: from [85.235.239.36] by cpmail.dk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:14:01 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:14:01 +0100 Message-ID: <43C1A777000009FB@cpfe2.be.tisc.dk> From: dslb@tiscali.dk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FastTrack SX4000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:14:09 -0000 Hi again all I found that the driver for the Promise FastTrack controller I mailed abo= ut previously not supports raid level 5, but it does support 0+1. So far I'l= l use that, and look forward to the day when Raid 5 will be available ;) Best regards, Martin Kruse Jensen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 15:13:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CF316A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3D943D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from nimnet.asn.au (4de75e62add2a376db294ce740d06573@dialup1.nimnet.asn.au [203.41.52.161]) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with ESMTP id CAA25847; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:13:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Sender: smithi@nimnet.asn.au Message-ID: <43CA6674.98FAF2A7@nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:12:52 +1100 From: Ian Smith Organization: Nimbin Network Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, en-GB, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au, jeremywillson@yahoo.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Micah , questions@freebsd.org, chris@i13i.com Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:54 -0000 gday, sending this to both of your addresses, and -questions. You should get three. If you reply, esp from your apana address, I could check a) that you can post to me at least :) and b) see what the headers suggest about reverse IP resolution. Micah said: >I had the same problem, I could receive I just couldn't send to /any/ >freebsd.org list. I can't track down the emails right now, but I >believe it was either postmaster@freebsd.org or freebsd-questions-owner@ >who helped me figure out that my ISP had DNS issues. With his help I >emailed my ISP support line and they fixed their problem (I was >surprised!) So you should probably start by emailing one of the address >I listed to see if they can help you track down your problem. And Chris wrote: >Normally this happens when your mail server doesnt reversly resolve to >the domain name so if mail.i13i.com doesnt reverse to mail.i13i.com >freebsd.org's mailing lists will reject the mail. As this happened when i >was hosting my site using my DSL wasnt until i got a ded that i relaised >what it was. Seems the problem is indeed (at least temporarily) APANA's reverse DNS: gaia: {301} dig -x 203.3.126.1 ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> -x ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 6 ^^^^^^^^ ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 0, Addit: 0 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; 1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN ;; Total query time: 73580 msec ^^^^^ which most likely explains why freebsd.org's mx is ignoring your mail. Probably worth mailing Matt Geier as suggested, and your local Brisbane apana tech bods; I expect they'll want to know .. Oh, it's worse than that .. ns.apana.org.au seems currently broken: smithi on paqi% dig @ns.apana.org.au. -x 203.3.126.1 [..] ;; res_nsend to server ns.apana.org.au. 192.188.107.12: Operation timed out smithi on paqi% dig @ns.apana.org.au. apana.org.au [..] ;; res_nsend to server ns.apana.org.au. 192.188.107.12: Operation timed out Trying another apana.org.au listed ns: gaia: {304} dig @warrane.connect.com.au. -x 203.3.126.1 [..] ;; QUESTIONS: ;; 1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: 1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200 RP support.brisbane.apana.org.au. 1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200 TXT "APANA Brisbane" 1.126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200 PTR gargoyle.apana.org.au. ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: 126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200 NS yarrina.connect.com.au. 126.3.203.in-addr.arpa. 43200 NS ns.apana.org.au. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: yarrina.connect.com.au. 3600 A 192.189.54.17 ns.apana.org.au. 3600 A 192.188.107.12 .. but ns.apana.org.au fails to provide that PTR response right now .. unless apana has _my_ server blacklisted of course :) I'd be mailing that RP too (guess it's support@brisbane.apana.org.au) Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 15:20:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C28016A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B278143D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:20:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdemart1@tin.it) Received: from nbbsd.grtn (82.59.190.115) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.2.060.1) (authenticated as vdemart1@tin.it) id 43C81F7B0014188F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:20:51 +0100 From: vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:20:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601151620.34553.vdemart1@tin.it> Subject: Backing up an encrypted partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:20:43 -0000 =46rom time to time I backup up my ad0s3a and ad0s3d partitions by means of= dump=20 issuing a 'dump -a0f fileA /dev/ad0s3a' etc. Having just set up a gdbe encrypted partition /dev/ads0s3e which I mount wi= th gbde attach /dev/ad0s3e -l /etc/gbde/ad0s3e mount /dev/ad0s3e.bde /mydir/encrypt I wonder WHAT should I now dump when backing up: dump -a0f fileE /dev/ad0s3e OR dump -a0f fileE /dev/ad0s3e.bde ? Ciao Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 16:21:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67B416A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693FB43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060115162118.QKND14388.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:21:18 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: web application recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:21:20 -0000 Been through the ports collection and could not find anything at all to what I am looking for. I am looking for a open source web based application that users can register their membership info and allows search by name or member ID, ECT. Also looking for open source web based application that would allow user to setup their own website content on my apache server something like www.95mb.com does. Interested in using these applications as coding examples of functions I want to include in my own web based application. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:21:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F8C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DE143D49 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:21:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.132]) by mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0FHL6wM030207 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:21:07 -0500 Received: from 68-119-38-069.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com (HELO [192.168.1.67]) ([68.119.38.69]) by mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2006 12:21:06 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,368,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1826752459:sNHT16964416" Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.17/229]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <43CA8475.70404@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:20:53 -0500 From: Ronny Hippler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: je killen References: <43C9FB5A.2050506@yahoo.com> <0882f36f000b0fdb49e5b59b8bfc053f@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <0882f36f000b0fdb49e5b59b8bfc053f@prodigy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: shell scripts and escaped charecters in file names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:21:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 je killen wrote: | | On Jan 14, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Ronny Hippler wrote: | | Hello, | I am trying to get the following script to run with no success. | ------------------------------------ | #!/bin/csh | foreach file (\*vol\*) | mv $file `basename $file .par2`.PAR2 | echo $file | end | ------------------------------------ | and get the following error: | usage: mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source target | ~ mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source ... directory | | I know it is because of the spaces and such in the file names. I have | tried quoting single double and also escaping them but all fails. what | is the magic? Please cc me off list. thanks! | |> tried %20 for space? can't cause the file name is being inserted by a variable on the fly I would have to do a rewrite of the filenames in the script and would need to know all of the characters that needed to be escaped. on that note is there a definitive list of all characters that need to be escaped in a file name? Thanks please cc me off list. thanks again - -- I don't need a new harddrive, there's 3k free. Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ PGP key: http://www.ronnyhippler.com/Ronny_Hippler_PGP.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDyoR1N6qJSxoonroRAkbVAJ9dzS1y5OUZZ2rQKwst3P4l+J9rIgCfUV31 d2PkQW1xaiDwcMgI9qJE/3g= =teKc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:23:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5664516A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D267B43D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:23:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (really [137.186.246.196]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060115172357.FDGV8625.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@[192.168.15.100]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:23:57 -0700 Message-ID: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:24:04 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:23:58 -0000 I thought this might be the best place to post the question. I am running FreeBSD5.4-RELEASE. For the sake of argument, let's say I am trying to get the port editors/fte running on my Windows box via an SSH tunnel. I am running WindowsXP, cygwin's X11 server, and PUTTY. As far as I can tell from all my Googling, this should actually be quite simple: - openssh is setup on FreeBSD with X11Forwarding=yes - I start the cygwin X-server (XWin -ac -multiwindow) - Putty is configured to forward X11 sessions - I connect via Putty - running '$ fte' from the FreeBSD command line should supposedly open everything up now on my Windows box, but it does not. From what I understand, when I connect now via Putty the env variable DISPLAY should be set. But it is not (which is the error fte gives me when I try to run it). If I try to manually set the DISPLAY variable (I tried localhost:0, localhost:0.0, ip:0, ip:0.0) it still doesn't work. editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I wonder if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make things work. I really appreciate your time and any assistance you can render. -- Aaron Dalton | Super Duper Games aaron@daltons.ca | http://superdupergames.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:32:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B779316A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:32:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2098743D5D for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so744289wxc for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:32:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jn+tdSSRaDygr+w4F65WfuK1N7pH27LWay+CyQNkipBcvWR5g9T8Gl9CgFWXkv+fmlE5XLsgZqpjL2AbQG8GY4zxMMNTb8A4MHUUAmqE/WErzK4dZnTovqbqBezQXDU9jcEJuPby9Hfg0Xr5eLe3XRcq44/lAW9atHjeIrdT3as= Received: by 10.70.111.12 with SMTP id j12mr6626873wxc; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:32:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:32:27 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: Ask FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: What do I use for DRI / DRM in X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:32:30 -0000 I'm a bit confused as to what's needed to get DRI / DRM working in Xorg. AFAIK we have 3 ways to do it; We have the DRM device in the kernel, dri-6.2.1,2 (For XFree86?) in the ports system, and Xorg seems to have it's own version too. What do I need and what don't I need for DRI / DRM in Xorg? The reason I ask is because I'm having problems getting DRI working on a triple-head system with 3 Radeon cards: drm0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xc8000000-0xcfffffff,0xfe8f0000-0xfe8fffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xf8000000 64MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.16.0 20050311 on minor 0 drm1: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 21 at device 9.0 on pci2 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.16.0 20050311 on minor 1 drm2: port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xfea90000-0xfea9ffff irq 23 at device 11.0 on pci2 info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.16.0 20050311 on minor 2 When the dri module in xorg.conf is enable the system locks-up and I have to do a hard reboot. When it's disable everything works fine, but it's slow. -------------------------------- Go sign the native flash for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:33:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A6216A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3C43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:33:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so962118wra for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:33:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; 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Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C3B43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so745471wxc for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:42:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OAhUnf7F7z8Jb0nHCxitpcpwLLBhL3FbbcTOa3FshcV3WFJQ0yMjcvUTDL9JdfFtNUgFRVEwBogOWtE+Ma7kx5p5YL7OXpqC8rQNu0fEn+pxUeqz/lh20CumLu9bSm6SHfptAd/Y7RExtEUwDFUeB0Opf2yyzgoI9FZgpy4fLyA= Received: by 10.70.62.19 with SMTP id k19mr6579939wxa; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:42:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:42:00 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: Aaron Dalton In-Reply-To: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:42:02 -0000 On 1/15/06, Aaron Dalton wrote: > I thought this might be the best place to post the question. I am > running FreeBSD5.4-RELEASE. For the sake of argument, let's say I am > trying to get the port editors/fte running on my Windows box via an SSH > tunnel. I am running WindowsXP, cygwin's X11 server, and PUTTY. As far > as I can tell from all my Googling, this should actually be quite simple: > > - openssh is setup on FreeBSD with X11Forwarding=3Dyes > - I start the cygwin X-server (XWin -ac -multiwindow) > - Putty is configured to forward X11 sessions > - I connect via Putty > - running '$ fte' from the FreeBSD command line should supposedly open > everything up now on my Windows box, but it does not. > > From what I understand, when I connect now via Putty the env variable > DISPLAY should be set. But it is not (which is the error fte gives me > when I try to run it). If I try to manually set the DISPLAY variable (I > tried localhost:0, localhost:0.0, ip:0, ip:0.0) it still doesn't work. > editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I wonder > if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make things work. > If you have cygwin installed why use putty? Just fire up xterm and use ssh -X. You could try this too: http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ -------------------------------- Go sign the native flash for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:53:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D802816A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E7643D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:53:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (really [137.186.246.196]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060115175313.GIAA27843.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@[192.168.15.100]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:53:13 -0700 Message-ID: <43CA8C10.9000700@daltons.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:53:20 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:53:15 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > > If you have cygwin installed why use putty? Just fire up xterm and use > ssh -X. You could try this too: http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ > Thank you for your reply! I tried that as well, but I get the same problems. I set DISPLAY on my Cygwin to localhost:0.0 which does indeed allow me to start XTerm. I do an ssh -X (and I tried -Y as well) but DISPLAY is still not set on the FreeBSD end. I have now tried manually setting DISPLAY to (localhost:0.0, localhost:10.0, ip:0.0, ip:10.0) on the FreeBSD end and still nothing is working. If I use ip:0.0 I get some router traffic, but nothing actually happens and then it just stops trying saying it could not open the display. My XServer is indeed running (XWin -ac -multiwindow) as I can connect via a local CoLinux install just fine. -- Aaron Dalton | Super Duper Games aaron@daltons.ca | http://superdupergames.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 17:54:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47A916A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: from ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de (ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de [80.237.203.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C221C43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:54:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: (qmail 88933 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 17:50:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (matze@mausland-entertainment.com@85.182.75.3) by 0 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 17:50:27 -0000 Message-ID: <43CA8DD1.5070202@matzsoft.de> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:00:49 +0100 From: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050624) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronny Hippler References: <43C9FB5A.2050506@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <43C9FB5A.2050506@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: shell scripts and escaped charecters in file names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:54:31 -0000 Ronny Hippler wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to get the following script to run with no success. > - ------------------------------------ > #!/bin/csh > foreach file (\*vol\*) > mv $file `basename $file .par2`.PAR2 > echo $file > end > - ------------------------------------ > and get the following error: > usage: mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source target > ~ mv [-f | -i | -n] [-v] source ... directory > > I know it is because of the spaces and such in the file names. I have > tried quoting single double and also escaping them but all fails. what > is the magic? Please cc me off list. thanks! Hi. Sorry, dont know the trick for csh -- but for bash there is an env, which can be used to override word-split whitespaces: IFS (see bash(1)) The following script should do the trick (i have tested it with some filenames with spaces in it succesfully): 8<----8<----8<---- #!/bin/sh IFS=" " export IFS; for i in *; do mv $i `basename $i .par2`.PAR2; echo $i; done; 8<----8<----8<----8< note how IFS is set to newline (replace the *-wildchar in the for-line with your fileset) Hope it helps greetings, Mathias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 18:50:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A4316A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1654643D49 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 49468 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 18:50:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@69.235.31.215 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 18:50:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <40cbe55e9104b460fbf612695894e6e0@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: je killen Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:50:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: message appears at prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:50:58 -0000 The following messages are appearing at my terminal on a frequent basis: (Jan 15 09:23:05 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Jan 15 09:25:43 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 ....preceeding from /var/log/messages) (these are the messages of concern:) Jan 15 09:32:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use Jan 15 09:42:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use Jan 15 09:52:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use The question is: What is going on here? It appears to be a conflict as one process is trying to bind to an address that is being used by another process However, I don't know if that is what 'bind' is in this context. If it doesn't mean DNS BIND then that eliminates that possibility. Please excuse my newbe question but I hope it doesn't mean that someone's script has snuck onto my machine from the network and beyond. These messages are appearing when the proxy/router machine is not even turned on. I would chase this down myself and not use the list but I don't know enough of where to look. The only clue I have is that sshd starts on boot and is also enabled in inetd.conf. Could this be the conflict? Thanks so much JK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:02:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA3416A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:02:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E3643D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so756026wxc for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:02:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aN3ldRia1YdGyQlwaaP8y2BSenUrsKlhvFT13hr6d6/OhB8YwqRRRm/xOSJZ5QmOTRi/P/rE4j8W8a2sL+dbbq52Ls92C0Bp/VYiy6csmN3h+BUCB0kcEJo6oHPuyyZeDz7BRNwLvfnCFb8kCm6M9NbWPFkltsSAEwLyuLDg1p0= Received: by 10.70.94.4 with SMTP id r4mr3132894wxb; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:02:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:02:09 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: Ivailo Bonev In-Reply-To: <20060114163014.13715.qmail@web25008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060114163014.13715.qmail@web25008.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT8235 Power Management Controller driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:02:16 -0000 On 1/14/06, Ivailo Bonev wrote: > Is FreeBSD 6-STABLE have "VT8235 Power Management Controller" driver? Wha= t to insert in kernel to compile it? Or maybe have another way to switch it= on? > > device iicbb device iicbus device iicsmb device smbus device smb device viapm -------------------------------- Go sign the native flash for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:07:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2677A16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AB643D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 23392 invoked by uid 510); 15 Jan 2006 19:07:36 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 19:07:30 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: je killen In-Reply-To: <40cbe55e9104b460fbf612695894e6e0@prodigy.net> References: <40cbe55e9104b460fbf612695894e6e0@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1137352049.22420.12.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:07:30 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: message appears at prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:07:39 -0000 On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 18:50, je killen wrote: > The following messages are appearing at my terminal on a frequent basis: > > (Jan 15 09:23:05 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 > Jan 15 09:25:43 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 ....preceeding > from /var/log/messages) > (these are the messages of concern:) > Jan 15 09:32:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > Jan 15 09:42:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > Jan 15 09:52:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > The question is: > What is going on here? > It appears to be a conflict as one process is trying to bind to an > address that is being used by another process > However, I don't know if that is what 'bind' is in this context. If it > doesn't mean DNS BIND then that eliminates > that possibility. > Please excuse my newbe question but I hope it doesn't mean that > someone's script has snuck onto my > machine from the network and beyond. These messages are appearing when > the proxy/router machine > is not even turned on. > I would chase this down myself and not use the list but I don't know > enough of where to look. > The only clue I have is that sshd starts on boot and is also enabled in > inetd.conf. Could this > be the conflict? > Thanks so much > JK > Hi JK, You have probably got sshd enabled twice, once in rc.conf and once in inetd. What is happening is that the 2nd copy of sshd enabled in inetd is trying to bind to the adresses already in use by the 1st copy enabled in /etc/rc.conf. One of the things is that BSD tends to use is the rc.d route to start apps whereas linux tends to use the inetd route. Note there is no run levels as such in bsd. Once you get used to it it quite simple to pop a script into /usr/local/etc/rc.d and call it from /etc/rc.conf with a something_enable="YES" Rob Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:21:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CCF16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vocativus@interia.pl) Received: from smtp.poczta.interia.pl (smtp2.poczta.interia.pl [213.25.80.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A608E43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:21:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vocativus@interia.pl) Received: by smtp.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id A7564372C0C; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from poczta.interia.pl (mi03.poczta.interia.pl [10.217.12.3]) by smtp.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTP id 234DE372C5F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id 115093C390; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [212.106.155.43]) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTP id 02E073C3BF for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:20:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:20:20 +0100 From: vocativus X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.22) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3310581388.20060115202020@interia.pl> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-EMID: b32b4acc Cc: Subject: help me.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vocativus List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:21:04 -0000 Hello I can't english well (I'm in the middle of learn) so I may make a mistakes. So... I have a big problem with FreeBSD system. I was download a CD images from FreeBSD site, I burn it on CD and install system on hard disk. All working well. In last week I bought new computer (processor, motherboard with graphic card, and DVD - RAM recorder). I was load CD 1, chosen default boot, next - standard, chosen ok in window, where was about fdisk, chosen ad0. Next I was saw comunique: Warning: A geometry of 77545/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you are unsure as to whether or not it's correct, please consult the Hardware Guide in the Documentation submenu or use the (G)eometry command to change it now Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the geometry is! For IDE it's what yoy were told in the BIOS setup. For SCSI, it's the translation mode your controller is using. Do NOT use a "physical geometry" I chosen od, made partition and slices, chosen install, and I saw a communique, where I read about error, that computer can't write data on disk and it's end of instalation Configuration of my old computer: motherboart: ASrock k7s8x, 384MB RAM, GeForce 2 MX 400, Hard Disks: Western Digital 40 GB (ATA 133), i Samsung 60GB (ATA 133). Processor: Duron 1400 Ethernet Card (LAN) - SIS 10/100 integrated with motherboard Sound Card - AC 97 <- system didn't detect it correctly Configuration of my new computer: motherboard: 939NF4G - SATA2 Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ venice socket 939 Graphic card - integrated with motherboard - GeForce 6100 - memory 128MB LAN - integrated with motherboard - Realtek PHY RTL8201CL Sound card - Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec RAM - 768MB (128 MB shared by Graphic Card, so aviable is 640MB) BIOS wersion - AMI P1.30 Help me ;( I was searching in the Hardware Guide, and I searched somethink about this problem. I read, that I must write a command, but I don't know how and where. This is this command: /stand/sysinstall [var=value ..] [command ..] I was read, that I must put 'geometry' instead of value. And enter into: /usr/local/bin/configPackages Help me... ;( I don't know what to do... If it's possible, I solicit for some exect leads, because I'm beginning in linux systems and if you can (may) write in polish ;) Ps. I'm sory for mistakes :) =============================== Polish wersion of this message: =============================== Witam! Mam du¿y problem z FreeBSD. Mianowicie... œci¹g³em sobie system ze strony www.freebsd.org wypali³em na 2 p³ytach CD i zainstalowa³em. Wszystko dobrze chodzi³o... do czasu a¿ zmieni³em komputer tzn. dysk twardy, RAM i nagrywarke mam ze starego. Moja stara konfiguracja: P³yta g³. ASrock k7s8x, 384MB RAM, GeForce 2 MX 400, Dyski twarde: Western Digital 40 GB (ATA 133), i Samsung 60GB (ATA 133). Procesor: Duron 1400 Karta sieciowa - SIS 10/100 zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ Karta dŸwiêkowa - AC 97 <- system jej nie wykrywa³ poprawnie Na powy¿szym sprzêcie system pracowa³ bezb³êdnie, z wyj¹tkiem wspomnianej karty dŸwiêkowej. Moja obecna konfiguracja: P³. g³ówna: 939NF4G - SATA2 Procesor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ venice socket 939 Karta graficzna - zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ - GeForce 6100 - pamiêæ 128MB Karta sieciowa - zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ - Realtek PHY RTL8201CL Karta dŸwiêkowa - Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec RAM - 768MB (128 zarezerwowane dla karty graficznej wiêc dostêpne jest 640MB RAM) Wersja BIOS-u - P1.30 I wzi¹³em wyczyszczony dysk (bez jakichkolwiek partycji) pod³¹czony jako jedyny dysk, po wybraniu opcji default boot, wybraniu opcji standard, naciœniêciu ok w oknie gdzie pisze coœ o fdisk-u, wybraniu dysku - w moim przypadku ad0 wyœwietla sie komunikat: Warning: A geometry of 77545/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you are unsure as to whether or not it's correct, please consult the Hardware Guide in the Documentation submenu or use the (G)eometry command to change it now Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the geometry is! For IDE it's what yoy were told in the BIOS setup. For SCSI, it's the translation mode your controller is using. Do NOT use a "physical geometry" I nic da³em na ok, rozplanowa³em partycje da³em na instaluj i pojawi³ mi siê komunikat o b³êdzie, ¿e nie mo¿na zapisaæ danych na dysk i na tym koniec. Próbowa³em zainstalowaæ FreeBSD w wersji 5.4 (i386), 6.0 (i386), 6.0 (AMD 64) i ci¹gle siê pojawia ten komunikat. Jeœli to Was pocieszy, to linux SuSE nie wykry³ mi wogóle ¿adnego sprzêtu, za wyj¹tkiem drukarki. Czy ja mam na tyle nietypow¹ konfiguracje, ¿e ¿aden linux nie jest w stanie prawid³owo rozpoznaæ mojego sprzêtu??? Nie by³oby takiego problemu, gdyby nie to, ¿e musze mieæ linuxa, bo chodzê do liceum na profil matematyczno - fizyczno - informatyczny i linuxa musze mieæ... Prêdzej te¿ go mia³em zainstalowanego, ale g³ównie do zabawy, w celu poznania czegoœ innego oprócz windowsa. I musze powiedzieæ, ¿e FreeBSD to, jak dot¹d najlepszy linux, z jakim siê spotka³em. Jego instalacja jest z leksza dziwna, ale z 23 - stronicow¹ instrukcj¹ instalacji nie ma najmniejszego problemu. FreeBSD zaskoczy³ mnie g³ównie prostot¹ i niemal¿e ca³kowit¹ automatyzacj¹ instalacji programów, np. poprzez porty. To doskona³e rozwi¹zanie. I w³aœnie dlatego wybra³em FreeBSD - jest funkcjonalny, na tych dwóch p³ytach jest wiêcej oprogramowania ni¿ w innych dystrybucjach. Jest ³atwy w obs³ude, chocia¿ musze przyznaæ, ¿e pocz¹tki by³y tragiczne... ale to chyba normalne. Grunt to sie przyzwyczaiæ :) Dlatego prosze Was o pomoc... kompletnie nie wiem co robiæ... pooomooocyyyyyyyyy ;( ======================== end of polish message... ======================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kliknij po wiecej! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:27:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E039916A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:27:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD5343D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:27:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011519274701300da0rie>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:27:47 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2592217024; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:27:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:27:47 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20060115192747.GA32153@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Aaron Dalton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:27:49 -0000 On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:24:04AM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > I thought this might be the best place to post the question. I am > running FreeBSD5.4-RELEASE. For the sake of argument, let's say I am > trying to get the port editors/fte running on my Windows box via an SSH > tunnel. I am running WindowsXP, cygwin's X11 server, and PUTTY. As far > as I can tell from all my Googling, this should actually be quite simple: > > - openssh is setup on FreeBSD with X11Forwarding=yes > - I start the cygwin X-server (XWin -ac -multiwindow) > - Putty is configured to forward X11 sessions > - I connect via Putty > - running '$ fte' from the FreeBSD command line should supposedly open > everything up now on my Windows box, but it does not. > > From what I understand, when I connect now via Putty the env variable > DISPLAY should be set. But it is not (which is the error fte gives me > when I try to run it). If I try to manually set the DISPLAY variable (I > tried localhost:0, localhost:0.0, ip:0, ip:0.0) it still doesn't work. > editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I wonder > if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make things work. > > I really appreciate your time and any assistance you can render. > I'm new to FreeBSD, so I may be off base, but I use vncserver on my FreeBSD box when I need an X session. Then I just setup Putty to forward port 5900 to 127.0.0.0:5901, make an ssh connection to my FreeBSD server, run UltraVNC on my Windows box and connect to localhost. -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:33:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02AF16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B54C43D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (really [137.186.246.196]) by priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060115193318.IEEO5786.priv-edtnes46.telusplanet.net@[192.168.15.100]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:33:18 -0700 Message-ID: <43CAA384.9030703@daltons.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:33:24 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Stevenson References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> <20060115192747.GA32153@abbott.allenmyland.com> In-Reply-To: <20060115192747.GA32153@abbott.allenmyland.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:33:19 -0000 Ken Stevenson wrote: > > I'm new to FreeBSD, so I may be off base, but I use vncserver on my > FreeBSD box when I need an X session. Then I just setup Putty to forward > port 5900 to 127.0.0.0:5901, make an ssh connection to my FreeBSD server, run > UltraVNC on my Windows box and connect to localhost. > Thanks for your reply! I have been told VNC is a good way to go as well, but some have mentioned some performance issues. What have you found? It works liveably well? -- Aaron Dalton | Super Duper Games aaron@daltons.ca | http://superdupergames.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:46:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C58316A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C6A43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:46:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011519465701300d8a1re>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:46:57 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE0C617024; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:46:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:46:56 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20060115194656.GA32398@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Aaron Dalton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> <20060115192747.GA32153@abbott.allenmyland.com> <43CAA384.9030703@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CAA384.9030703@daltons.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:46:58 -0000 On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:33:24PM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > Ken Stevenson wrote: > > > >I'm new to FreeBSD, so I may be off base, but I use vncserver on my > >FreeBSD box when I need an X session. Then I just setup Putty to forward > >port 5900 to 127.0.0.0:5901, make an ssh connection to my FreeBSD server, > >run > >UltraVNC on my Windows box and connect to localhost. > > > > Thanks for your reply! I have been told VNC is a good way to go as > well, but some have mentioned some performance issues. What have you > found? It works liveably well? > It works great for me. I have a pretty fast internet connection (cable modem). One thing I like about it is the session doesn't end when you disconnect. You can start a long running process like cvsup, disconnect, and come back later to check on it. Unlike when you vnc to a Windows box, you don't get the X session that's on the local workstation, you get a new one. If you need to connect to the primary X session, like for remote support, there's a version of VNC in the ports for that too (xvnc?). -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 19:53:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5591E16A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (c-67-168-241-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.168.241.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE46B43D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id k0FJrhd15329; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:53:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id TAA02148; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:23 GMT Message-Id: <200601151953.TAA02148@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: chris@i13i.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:29 CST." <44763.195.139.252.5.1137287009.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:53:23 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Parv Subject: Re: gcc-4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:48 -0000 > >> > Are there any plans to update gcc to gcc-4? > >> > >> Perhaps in 8.0? There are already gcc4[0-2] ports in > >> /usr/ports/lang if you want to have gcc 4 right now. > >> > >> - Parv > > > > Thanks, my copy of 6.0 doesn't seem to have gcc42 so I'm > > trying to beat gcc41 into submission. > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on AMD64. > > > > I'm getting > > > > compiler warnings (included below) > > > > dmesg says that as seg-faulted a couple times, > > although I don't find the promised core dump. > > > > 'make check' fails big time > Doesn't 7.0 use gcc 4 ? This is probably a AMD64 bug as compiling gcc 4 > from ports give me zero errors but i am on a pent 4 system. Also looking > at the msg you sent i dont see an error they are just warnings which is > normal please supply us with a actual error. Just because the compiler says "warning" rather than "error" doesn't mean it isn't a problem. dmesg has a boatload of stuff about various programs exiting on various signals, mostly 11 (SIGSEGV), but some 4 (SIGILL) and 6 (SIGABRT) make as exited on signal 11 (core dumped) make check anew1.exe exited on signal 6 (core dumped) catchall-1.x5 exited on signal 4 (core dumped) pass40-frag.exe exited on signal 11 (core dumped) dmesg | grep "exited on signal" | wc -l 284 Some output from 'make check': [ ... ] There were fixinclude test FAILURES gmake[1]: *** [check] Error 1 gmake: *** [check-fixincludes] Error 2 [ ... ] Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/debug/dwarf2/dwarf2.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/dg.exp ... FAIL: gcc.dg/20021014-1.c consider using `-pg' instead of `-p' with gprof(1) (test for errors, line ) FAIL: gcc.dg/builtins-20.c (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/wint_t-1.c (test for excess errors) Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/format/format.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/noncompile/noncompile.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/pch/pch.exp ... FAIL: largefile.c -O0 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -O0 (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -O1 (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -O2 (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -O3 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: largefile.c -Os (test for excess errors) Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/special/mips-abi.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/special/special.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/tls/tls.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/torture/dg-torture.exp ... FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-1.c -O1 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-1.c -O2 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-1.c -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-1.c -O3 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-1.c -Os (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-2.c -O1 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-2.c -O2 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-2.c -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-2.c -O3 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-2.c -Os (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-3.c -O1 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-3.c -O2 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-3.c -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-3.c -O3 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-convert-3.c -Os (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -O0 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -O1 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -O2 (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -O3 -g (test for excess errors) FAIL: gcc.dg/torture/builtin-power-1.c -Os (test for excess errors) Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/tree-prof/tree-prof.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/tree-ssa/tree-ssa.exp ... FAIL: gcc.dg/tree-ssa/loop-3.c scan-tree-dump-times step: 1 Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/vect/vect.exp ... XPASS: gcc.dg/vect/vect-22.c scan-tree-dump-times vectorized 3 loops 1 Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/vmx/vmx.exp ... [ ... ] Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/gcc.test-framework/test-framework.exp ... skipping test framework tests, CHECK_TEST_FRAMEWORK is not defined === gcc Summary === # of expected passes 36806 # of unexpected failures 32 # of unexpected successes 1 # of expected failures 100 # of untested testcases 35 # of unsupported tests 470 /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/build/gcc/xgcc version 4.1.0 20050819 (experimental) WARNING: Couldn't find the global config file. [ ... ] === g++ Summary === # of expected passes 11207 # of expected failures 68 # of unsupported tests 104 /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/build/gcc/testsuite/../g++ version 4.1.0 20050819 (experimental) WARNING: Couldn't find the global config file. [ ... ] Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/objc/execute/exceptions/exceptions.exp ... FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/catchall-1.m execution, -Os -fgnu-runtime FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/local-variables-1.m compilation, -O1 -fgnu-runtime FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/local-variables-1.m compilation, -O2 -fgnu-runtime FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/local-variables-1.m compilation, -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fgnu-runtime FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/local-variables-1.m compilation, -O3 -g -fgnu-runtime FAIL: objc/execute/exceptions/local-variables-1.m compilation, -Os -fgnu-runtime Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/objc/execute/execute.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/objc.dg/dg.exp ... Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/gcc/testsuite/objc.dg/special/special.exp ... === objc Summary === # of expected passes 1657 # of unexpected failures 6 # of unresolved testcases 5 # of unsupported tests 22 /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/build/gcc/xgcc version 4.1.0 20050819 (experimental) [ ... ] Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/libstdc++-dg/normal.exp ... FAIL: 22_locale/time_put/put/char/10.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 22_locale/time_put/put/char/10.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 23_containers/list/cons/4.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 23_containers/list/cons/4.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 23_containers/list/cons/6.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 23_containers/list/cons/6.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 23_containers/list/invalidation/3.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 23_containers/list/invalidation/3.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 25_algorithms/replace_copy/1.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 25_algorithms/replace_copy/1.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/close/char/9964.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/close/char/9964.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/seekoff/char/12232.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/seekoff/char/12232.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetc/char/2-out.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetc/char/2-out.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetn/char/1-in.cc execution test FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetn/char/1-io.cc execution test FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetn/char/2-in.cc execution test FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sgetn/char/2-io.cc execution test FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sputc/char/2-io.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sputc/char/2-io.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sputc/char/2-out.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sputc/char/2-out.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sync/char/9182-1.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_filebuf/sync/char/9182-1.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_ios/locales/char/1.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_ios/locales/char/1.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_ostream/inserters_character/wchar_t/5.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_ostream/inserters_character/wchar_t/5.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_ostream/inserters_character/wchar_t/6.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_ostream/inserters_character/wchar_t/6.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_stringbuf/pbackfail/char/1.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_stringbuf/pbackfail/char/1.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/basic_stringbuf/pbackfail/wchar_t/1.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/basic_stringbuf/pbackfail/wchar_t/1.cc compilation failed to produce executable XPASS: 27_io/fpos/14320-1.cc execution test FAIL: 27_io/manipulators/adjustfield/wchar_t/2.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/manipulators/adjustfield/wchar_t/2.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: 27_io/objects/char/7.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: 27_io/objects/char/7.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: demangle/regression/cw-02.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: demangle/regression/cw-02.cc compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: tr1/6_containers/unordered/insert/multimap_single.cc (test for excess errors) [ ... ] FAIL: tr1/6_containers/unordered/insert/multimap_single.cc (test for excess errors) WARNING: tr1/6_containers/unordered/insert/multimap_single.cc compilation failed to produce executable === libstdc++ Summary === # of expected passes 3194 # of unexpected failures 24 # of unexpected successes 1 # of expected failures 12 # of unsupported tests 315 gmake[3]: *** [check-DEJAGNU] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [check-am] Error 2 gmake[2]: Target `check' not remade because of errors. gmake[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Target `check' not remade because of errors. gmake: *** [check-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 2 Making check in testsuite Making a new site.exp file... WARNING: Couldn't find the global config file. [ ... ] Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/testsuite/libmudflap.c/cfrags.exp ... FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail1-frag.c (test for excess errors) WARNING: libmudflap.c/fail1-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail10-frag.c (test for excess errors) WARNING: libmudflap.c/fail10-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail11-frag.c (test for excess errors) WARNING: libmudflap.c/fail11-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail12-frag.c (test for excess errors) WARNING: libmudflap.c/fail12-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail13-frag.c (test for excess errors) [ ... ] WARNING: libmudflap.c/pass9-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/pass9-frag.c (test for excess errors) WARNING: libmudflap.c/pass9-frag.c compilation failed to produce executable FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail1-frag.c (-static) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail10-frag.c (-static) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail11-frag.c (-static) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail12-frag.c (-static) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail13-frag.c (-static) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.c/fail14-frag.c (-static) output pattern test [ ... ] WARNING: libmudflap.c/pass9-frag.c (-O3) compilation failed to produce executable Running /usr/ports/lang/gcc41/work/gcc-4.1-20050819/libmudflap/testsuite/libmudflap.c/externs.exp ... FAIL: externs-12 linkage FAIL: externs-21 linkage WARNING: program timed out. FAIL: externs-12 execution WARNING: program timed out. FAIL: externs-21 execution FAIL: externs-12 linkage -static FAIL: externs-21 linkage -static WARNING: program timed out. [ ... ] FAIL: libmudflap.cth/pass39-frag.c (-O3) (rerun 19) execution test FAIL: libmudflap.cth/pass39-frag.c (-O3) (rerun 19) output pattern test FAIL: libmudflap.cth/pass40-frag.c (-O3) (test for excess errors) FAIL: libmudflap.cth/pass40-frag.c (-O3) execution test FAIL: libmudflap.cth/pass40-frag.c (-O3) output pattern test === libmudflap Summary === # of expected passes 220 # of unexpected failures 963 gmake[3]: *** [check-DEJAGNU] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [check-am] Error 2 gmake[2]: Target `check' not remade because of errors. gmake[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Target `check' not remade because of errors. gmake: *** [check-target-libmudflap] Error 2 gmake: Target `check' not remade because of errors. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc41. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:17:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A022B16A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from priv-edmwes48.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B10F43D46; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (really [137.186.246.196]) by priv-edmwes48.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060115201757.CSJP838.priv-edmwes48.telusplanet.net@[192.168.15.100]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: <43CAADFE.4030807@daltons.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:18:06 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Stevenson References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> <20060115192747.GA32153@abbott.allenmyland.com> <43CAA384.9030703@daltons.ca> <20060115194656.GA32398@abbott.allenmyland.com> In-Reply-To: <20060115194656.GA32398@abbott.allenmyland.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding (Fixed!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:17:58 -0000 Ken Stevenson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:33:24PM -0700, Aaron Dalton wrote: > >>Ken Stevenson wrote: >> >>>I'm new to FreeBSD, so I may be off base, but I use vncserver on my >>>FreeBSD box when I need an X session. Then I just setup Putty to forward >>>port 5900 to 127.0.0.0:5901, make an ssh connection to my FreeBSD server, >>>run >>>UltraVNC on my Windows box and connect to localhost. >>> >> >>Thanks for your reply! I have been told VNC is a good way to go as >>well, but some have mentioned some performance issues. What have you >>found? It works liveably well? >> > > > It works great for me. I have a pretty fast internet connection (cable > modem). > > One thing I like about it is the session doesn't end when you > disconnect. You can start a long running process like cvsup, disconnect, > and come back later to check on it. > > Unlike when you vnc to a Windows box, you don't get the X session > that's on the local workstation, you get a new one. If you need to > connect to the primary X session, like for remote support, there's a > version of VNC in the ports for that too (xvnc?). For the record, I finally got standard X11 forwarding working once I installed tightvnc. I presume it was because I didn't have an X11 client installed. Now to get VNC working! I can see which I prefer. Thank you again all for your time! -- Aaron Dalton | Super Duper Games aaron@daltons.ca | http://superdupergames.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:23:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5D16A420 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FD743D7B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.181]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT500133HYKD7C0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:23:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT5002ZMHYKCS10@pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:23:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([24.85.154.162]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT500M5DHYKFZ50@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:23:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.18/230]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 From: Graham North To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <43CAAF2C.4080005@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-43CAAF2C5134=======" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Rootkit detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:23:24 -0000 --=======AVGMAIL-43CAAF2C5134======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to determine if my server has had rootkit installed by a hacker. FBSD 4.11. Main entrances are only http, ssh and also webmin. My server went down sometime recently. When I went investigate there was a somewhat nasty message saying: "server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP address 192.168.0.102" The mac address 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 does not belong to any of my hardware. ("server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the machine name for the server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN addr on my router) The auth log files have been rolled over several times in the last few weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any entries were accepted but the most recent one is filled with unsuccessful attacks to sshd on high port numbers, ie sshd[86417]. My biggest concern is the message at the top of this email "server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP address 192.168.0.102", it sounds scary. Can someone give please me some guidance as to how to determine whether my machine is comprimised? Thanks, Graham/ -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca --=======AVGMAIL-43CAAF2C5134======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006 --=======AVGMAIL-43CAAF2C5134=======-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:33:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB516A41F; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [64.39.75.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3FA43D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9970FAD; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:33:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id CC69C61C21; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:33:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:33:56 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20060115203356.GF40810@over-yonder.net> References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-fullermd.2 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:33:58 -0000 [ shifting to -questions@ ] On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:24:04AM -0700 I heard the voice of Aaron Dalton, and lo! it spake thus: > > editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I > wonder if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make > things work. You have to have the xorg-clients (or xfree-clients, if you're going that way) installed to get the xauth(1) binary, so ssh can set the key for the display it allocates. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:36:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0540C16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:36:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DCC43D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@daltons.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.100] (really [137.186.246.196]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060115203625.LWVM27843.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@[192.168.15.100]>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:36:25 -0700 Message-ID: <43CAB254.9050001@daltons.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:36:36 -0700 From: Aaron Dalton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> <20060115203356.GF40810@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20060115203356.GF40810@over-yonder.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:36:27 -0000 Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > [ shifting to -questions@ ] > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:24:04AM -0700 I heard the voice of > Aaron Dalton, and lo! it spake thus: > >>editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I >>wonder if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make >>things work. > > > You have to have the xorg-clients (or xfree-clients, if you're going > that way) installed to get the xauth(1) binary, so ssh can set the key > for the display it allocates. > > *files this away in his head* I just never saw anything that explicit in the docs anywhere. I apologize for my ignorance and thank you for your help! -- Aaron Dalton | Super Duper Games aaron@daltons.ca | http://superdupergames.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:38:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE4216A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from debackerl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7943D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from debackerl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1019920wri for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:38:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mTXERUxnVjnR2Hh8wM/GDhuhdHBRwD4fCaJDhOA2G9Gy4Gl/B9kNLO/e6cyHUxlAnVebU2TK5pAVyUUOmaccETRso84PKpqYbw06AYdMOHoWd7E/3fcYi+LF+tamloKbSOae2YBaM64Czxr0ZjI/tg4N+mj3cgxD7CpoDypVdrs= Received: by 10.65.177.10 with SMTP id e10mr2488981qbp; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.97.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:38:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <75751ca80601151238r234e8768u30a753f1209556e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:38:15 +0100 From: Laurent Debacker To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <003e01c6191f$d9d2cfb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <003e01c6191f$d9d2cfb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost Root Pasword. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:38:20 -0000 I would have prefer to let someone more experienced speak, but since there is not much answers.... To reset your root password I think there are two solutions: 1) Boot in safe-mode, I think it will not ask password, and you can juste use the passwd to reset the password. 2) Boot with another FreeBSD install (live CD or so). Mount the partitions you have installed FreeBSD on. chroot then passwd should work. I know it is confuse but I only did that with Mac OS X. Warning: Remember that encrypted partition can only be decrypted using the password. Good luck, Laurent. On 1/14/06, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is a particularly embarrasing statement and question. > > S: While working on a FreeBSD 4.4 dev box, changed the root password, but > now, cant su. the password I used is > 12 chars long, and was made > intentionally cryptic. I know all the chars used in the password (yes I h= ave > it written down). > > Q: Where are all the ssh password 'guessing' utilities I see the hackers > using on my system? Located, I could really use one. > > Failing this, I will need to drive to TO and reboot the system by hand an= d > change the passwd. a waste of $50 in gas. > > -Grant > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 20:40:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5F916A465 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [64.39.75.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF2743D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E36FAD; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 291AC61C21; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:33 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Aaron Dalton Message-ID: <20060115204032.GG40810@over-yonder.net> References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> <20060115203356.GF40810@over-yonder.net> <43CAB254.9050001@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CAB254.9050001@daltons.ca> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-fullermd.2 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:40:34 -0000 On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:36:36PM -0700 I heard the voice of Aaron Dalton, and lo! it spake thus: > > *files this away in his head* I just never saw anything that > explicit in the docs anywhere. I apologize for my ignorance and > thank you for your help! Oh, I don't think it's in docs anywhere (at least, nowhere I've seen), so that's probably why you never saw it ;) I just know because when you login without it available, you get a warning message about it. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 21:29:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B141316A422 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:29:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk (mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk [193.63.55.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B420643D6B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:29:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk ([193.63.55.9]:53242) by mailhub.anglia.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EyFRE-0000Cg-BZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:29:24 +0000 Received: from cam-netmail.netware.anglia.ac.uk ([194.83.45.141]:8911 helo=student.apu.ac.uk) by boswell.cam.apu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EyFO5-0004VR-S6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:26:09 +0000 Received: from SP373 [172.200.200.202] by student.apu.ac.uk with NetMail ModWeb Module; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:26:04 +0000 From: "SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS" To: northg@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:26:04 +0000 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module X-Sender: SP373 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1137360364.1a943c0SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ARU-HELO: smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk X-ARU-sender-host: smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk [193.63.55.9]:53242 X-ARU-MailScanner-Info: see http://www.apu.ac.uk/mail-problems X-ARU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ARU-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.243, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ARU_FROM_AC_UK -4.00, AWL 1.22, BAYES_00 -2.60, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14) X-ARU-MailScanner-From: sp373@student.apu.ac.uk X-APU-MailFilter: message scanned X-ARU-MailFilter: message scanned Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rootkit detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: SP373@student.apu.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:29:37 -0000 Hi there, Graham North wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Graham North >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 >Subject: Rootkit detection >I would like to determine if my server has had >rootkit installed by a=20 >hacker. >FBSD 4.11. Main entrances are only http, ssh and >also webmin. >My server went down sometime recently. When I went >investigate there=20 >was a somewhat nasty message saying: >"server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my >IP address=20 >192.168.0.102" =20 This message is suspicious! This is a message that appears after a succesfu= l ARP poisoning attack which can then lead to a MITM (Man in the middle <= -- type this in google for more info) attack. If this is the case then all your unencrypted data to/from this host was av= ailable to the attacker in a human legible format (plain text). "Informat= ion leakage" is cover by Data Protection Laws (depending in the country y= our pc is). If the man in the middle attack was succesful..then all your unencrypted pa= sswords, e-mails, chats, searched strings in google, were available to su= ch an attacker. If this is the case then there is no need for installed software of any kin= d, in your computer. There are more chances that is someone from inside. First ask your self if = it is possible for people to connect laptops or other machines without yo= ur permission, to your LAN? Maybe this is why you don't know this MAC add= ress. Also if you announce this event to everyone using your Network(is i= t a LAN we are talking about, behind the server?) you decrease the chance= s to catch the leaker. I have tried such tools before but in my -->LAN<-- only, not against hosts = in the internet. So i don't really know if this can occur and with what t= ools, but i find it very possible.. Also In order not to panic, have in mind that data to/from your bank's acco= unt [online], for example, are/must be (almost for sure) encrypted with T= LSv1/SSLv3 128bit encryption which is probably safe (hopefully) at the mo= ment. Of course some older encryption techniques can be decrypted with the right = tools.=20 I am not expert in cryptography and decryption, but please check: http://et= tercap.sourceforge.net=20 to see what i mean. >The mac address 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 does not belong to >any of my hardware. >("server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the >machine name for the= =20 >server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN >addr on my router) >The auth log files have been rolled over several >times in the last few=20 >weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any >entries were=20 >accepted but the most recent one is filled with >unsuccessful attacks to= =20 >sshd on high port numbers, ie sshd[86417]. >My biggest concern is the message at the top of this >email "server=20 >/kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP >address 192.168.0.102", it= =20 >sounds scary. It is cool...! >Can someone give please me some guidance as to how >to determine whether= =20 >my machine is comprimised? >Thanks, Graham/ >-- >Kindness can be infectious - try it. >Graham North >Vancouver, BC >www.soleado.ca 8"server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the >machine name for the >server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN >addr on my router) >The auth log files have been rolled over several >times in the last few >weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any >entries were >accepted but the most recent one is filled with From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 21:47:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4A616A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk (mailhub-out.apu.ac.uk [193.63.55.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479F43D70 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SP373@student.apu.ac.uk) Received: from smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk ([193.63.55.9]:53487) by mailhub.anglia.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EyFiZ-00015j-L3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:19 +0000 Received: from cam-netmail.netware.anglia.ac.uk ([194.83.45.141]:9282 helo=student.apu.ac.uk) by boswell.cam.apu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EyFiU-0004jK-5q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:14 +0000 Received: from SP373 [172.200.200.202] by student.apu.ac.uk with NetMail ModWeb Module; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:08 +0000 From: "SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS" To: northg@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:08 +0000 X-Mailer: NetMail ModWeb Module X-Sender: SP373 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1137361628.1a94f60SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ARU-HELO: smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk X-ARU-sender-host: smtp.cam.apu.ac.uk [193.63.55.9]:53487 X-ARU-MailScanner-Info: see http://www.apu.ac.uk/mail-problems X-ARU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ARU-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.327, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ARU_FROM_AC_UK -4.00, AWL 1.14, BAYES_00 -2.60, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14) X-ARU-MailScanner-From: sp373@student.apu.ac.uk X-APU-MailFilter: message scanned X-ARU-MailFilter: message scanned Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rootkit detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: SP373@student.apu.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:47:32 -0000 Hi again, Well check this.... the message in my /var/log/messages is: "kernel: arp: 192.168.2.34 moved from 00:13:8f:4c:1b:41 to 00:11:2f:0c:b1:0= a on rl0" So Hmm now that i am thinking of it again: "server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP address=20 192.168.0.102" =20 This also looks like an IP conflict!! And it is not similar to mine, even i= f it can be the same... Someone more experienced maybe can make this clear. To be honest i haven't = seen the output you posted before... Sorry for the inconvenience if i was wrong before.. Spiros >-----Original Message----- >From: Graham North >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 >Subject: Rootkit detection >I would like to determine if my server has had >rootkit installed by a=20 >hacker. >FBSD 4.11. Main entrances are only http, ssh and >also webmin. >My server went down sometime recently. When I went >investigate there=20 >was a somewhat nasty message saying: >"server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my >IP address >192.168.0.102" >The mac address 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 does not belong to >any of my hardware. >("server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the >machine name for the >server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN >addr on my router) >The auth log files have been rolled over several >times in the last few >weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any >entries were >accepted but the most recent one is filled with >unsuccessful attacks to >sshd on high port numbers, ie sshd[86417]. >My biggest concern is the message at the top of this >email "server >/kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP >address 192.168.0.102", it >sounds scary. >Can someone give please me some guidance as to how >to determine whether >my machine is comprimised? >Thanks, Graham/ >-- >Kindness can be infectious - try it. >Graham North >Vancouver, BC >www.soleado.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 21:49:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C484716A41F for ; 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Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:48:47 -0600 (CST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portupgrade errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:49:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-140735257 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed When I run portupgrade, I'm getting the following errors: # portupgrade -a ** Makefile possibly broken: www/apache20: "Makefile", line 190: warning: duplicate script for target "print-closest-mirrors" ignored "Makefile", line 197: warning: duplicate script for target "print-closest-mirrors" ignored apache-2.0.55_2 ---> Skipping 'www/mod_php4' (mod_php4-4.4.1_3,1) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'databases/adodb' (adodb-4.68) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-gettext' (php4-gettext-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'archivers/php4-bz2' (php4-bz2-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'databases/php4-mysql' (php4-mysql-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'converters/php4-mbstring' (php4-mbstring-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'archivers/php4-zlib' (php4-zlib-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'sysutils/php4-posix' (php4-posix-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/php4-session' (php4-session-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'net/php4-xmlrpc' (php4-xmlrpc-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/eaccelerator' (eaccelerator-0.9.4.r1_1) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'security/php4-openssl' (php4-openssl-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify - k to force) ---> Skipping 'security/php4-mcrypt' (php4-mcrypt-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-pcre' (php4-pcre-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'textproc/php4-ctype' (php4-ctype-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'lang/php4-overload' (php4-overload-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-tokenizer' (php4-tokenizer-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'textproc/php4-xml' (php4-xml-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/drupal' (drupal-4.6.5_1) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'security/php4-mhash' (php4-mhash-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ** Package origin of 'emacs' has been changed: 'editors/emacs' -> 'editors/emacs19' ** No need to upgrade 'emacs-21.3_9' (>= emacs-19.34b_1). (specify -f to force) ---> Skipping 'graphics/php4-gd' (php4-gd-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'lang/php4-extensions' (php4-extensions-1.0) because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/phpwiki' (phpwiki-1.2.10_1) because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'graphics/phplot' (phplot-4.4.6_2) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/wordpress' (wordpress-2.0.0,1) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/phpSysInfo' (phpSysInfo-2.5.1) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'mail/squirrelmail' (squirrelmail-1.4.5_2) because a requisite package 'php4-gettext-4.4.1_3' (devel/php4-gettext) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/gallery2' (gallery2-2.0.2) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'graphics/jpgraph' (jpgraph-1.19) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'print/pecl-pdflib' (pecl-pdflib-2.0.4) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/phpmyfaq' (phpmyfaq-1.5.2) because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'databases/phpmyadmin' (phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2) because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! www/apache20 (apache-2.0.55_2) (Makefile broken) * www/mod_php4 (mod_php4-4.4.1_3,1) * databases/adodb (adodb-4.68) * devel/php4-gettext (php4-gettext-4.4.1_3) * archivers/php4-bz2 (php4-bz2-4.4.1_3) * databases/php4-mysql (php4-mysql-4.4.1_3) * converters/php4-mbstring (php4-mbstring-4.4.1_3) * archivers/php4-zlib (php4-zlib-4.4.1_3) * sysutils/php4-posix (php4-posix-4.4.1_3) * www/php4-session (php4-session-4.4.1_3) * net/php4-xmlrpc (php4-xmlrpc-4.4.1_3) * www/eaccelerator (eaccelerator-0.9.4.r1_1) * security/php4-openssl (php4-openssl-4.4.1_3) * security/php4-mcrypt (php4-mcrypt-4.4.1_3) * devel/php4-pcre (php4-pcre-4.4.1_3) * textproc/php4-ctype (php4-ctype-4.4.1_3) * lang/php4-overload (php4-overload-4.4.1_3) * devel/php4-tokenizer (php4-tokenizer-4.4.1_3) * textproc/php4-xml (php4-xml-4.4.1_3) * www/drupal (drupal-4.6.5_1) * security/php4-mhash (php4-mhash-4.4.1_3) * graphics/php4-gd (php4-gd-4.4.1_3) * lang/php4-extensions (php4-extensions-1.0) * www/phpwiki (phpwiki-1.2.10_1) * graphics/phplot (phplot-4.4.6_2) * www/wordpress (wordpress-2.0.0,1) * www/phpSysInfo (phpSysInfo-2.5.1) * mail/squirrelmail (squirrelmail-1.4.5_2) * www/gallery2 (gallery2-2.0.2) * graphics/jpgraph (jpgraph-1.19) * print/pecl-pdflib (pecl-pdflib-2.0.4) * www/phpmyfaq (phpmyfaq-1.5.2) * databases/phpmyadmin (phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 251 ignored, 32 skipped and 1 failed What's sort of odd is that pkg_version doesn't show any ports that need upgrading. The emacs error has been around for a few weeks, but the apache error just happened today. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E --Apple-Mail-1-140735257-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:14:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A50916A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C77A43D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 16966 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 22:36:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 22:36:11 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:36:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <48440.195.139.252.5.1137364571.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <1137361628.1a94f60SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> References: <1137361628.1a94f60SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:36:11 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: SP373@student.apu.ac.uk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, northg@shaw.ca Subject: Re: Rootkit detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:14:43 -0000 Some NSP's which are network service providers use private ip's and will tend to give you those type of arp msg's if your are part of the network i would say if nothing seem different either format and reinstall the damn thing or fix it as to what i see your dont have a root kit as root kits dont change your ip they just make a hole for a remote person to login mostly if you are too concerned try adding ipfw,pf or a router to your home network and format the bsd machine as ou ben asking here for some time. > Hi again, > > Well check this.... > the message in my /var/log/messages is: > "kernel: arp: 192.168.2.34 moved from 00:13:8f:4c:1b:41 to > 00:11:2f:0c:b1:0a on rl0" > > So Hmm now that i am thinking of it again: > > "server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP address > 192.168.0.102" > > This also looks like an IP conflict!! And it is not similar to mine, even > if it can be the same... > Someone more experienced maybe can make this clear. To be honest i haven't > seen the output you posted before... > > Sorry for the inconvenience if i was wrong before.. > > Spiros > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Graham North >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 >>Subject: Rootkit detection > >>I would like to determine if my server has had >rootkit installed by a >>hacker. >>FBSD 4.11. Main entrances are only http, ssh and >also webmin. > >>My server went down sometime recently. When I went >investigate there >>was a somewhat nasty message saying: > >>"server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my >>IP address >>192.168.0.102" > >>The mac address 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 does not belong to >any of my hardware. >>("server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the >machine name for the >>server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN >addr on my router) > >>The auth log files have been rolled over several >times in the last few >>weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any >entries were >>accepted but the most recent one is filled with >unsuccessful attacks to >>sshd on high port numbers, ie sshd[86417]. >>My biggest concern is the message at the top of this >email "server >>/kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP >address 192.168.0.102", it >>sounds scary. > >>Can someone give please me some guidance as to how >to determine whether >>my machine is comprimised? >>Thanks, Graham/ > >>-- >>Kindness can be infectious - try it. > >>Graham North >>Vancouver, BC >>www.soleado.ca > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:20:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B6D16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:20:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F46843D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 18805 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:42:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50304.195.139.252.5.1137364944.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <3310581388.20060115202020@interia.pl> References: <3310581388.20060115202020@interia.pl> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:42:24 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "vocativus" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help me.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:20:55 -0000 First off that error with the geometry is normall i got that installing freebsd onto a 250gig HD the error with the writing to disk are you sure the bios sees the new drive all cables are connected freebsd propperly support your SATA2 controller ? > Hello > > > I can't english well (I'm in the middle of learn) so I may make a > mistakes. > > So... I have a big problem with FreeBSD system. I was download a CD > images from FreeBSD site, I burn it on CD and install system on hard > disk. All working well. In last week I bought new computer (processor, > motherboard with graphic card, and DVD - RAM recorder). > > I was load CD 1, chosen default boot, next - standard, chosen ok in > window, where was about fdisk, chosen ad0. Next I was saw comunique: > > > > Warning: A geometry of 77545/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more > likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you are unsure as to > whether or not it's correct, please consult the Hardware Guide in the > Documentation submenu or use the (G)eometry command to change it now > > Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the geometry is! > For IDE it's what yoy were told in the BIOS setup. For SCSI, it's the > translation mode your controller is using. Do NOT use a "physical > geometry" > > > > I chosen od, made partition and slices, chosen install, and I saw a > communique, where I read about error, that computer can't write data > on disk and it's end of instalation > > Configuration of my old computer: > > > motherboart: ASrock k7s8x, > 384MB RAM, > GeForce 2 MX 400, > Hard Disks: Western Digital 40 GB (ATA 133), i Samsung 60GB (ATA 133). > Processor: Duron 1400 > Ethernet Card (LAN) - SIS 10/100 integrated with motherboard > Sound Card - AC 97 <- system didn't detect it correctly > > > Configuration of my new computer: > > motherboard: 939NF4G - SATA2 > Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ venice socket 939 > Graphic card - integrated with motherboard - GeForce 6100 - memory > 128MB > LAN - integrated with motherboard - Realtek PHY RTL8201CL > Sound card - Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec > RAM - 768MB (128 MB shared by Graphic Card, so aviable is 640MB) > BIOS wersion - AMI P1.30 > > > Help me ;( I was searching in the Hardware Guide, and I searched > somethink about this problem. I read, that I must write a command, but > I don't know how and where. This is this command: > > /stand/sysinstall [var=value ..] [command ..] > > > I was read, that I must put 'geometry' instead of value. And enter > into: > > /usr/local/bin/configPackages > > > > Help me... ;( I don't know what to do... > > If it's possible, I solicit for some exect leads, because I'm > beginning in linux systems and if you can (may) write in polish ;) > > > > Ps. I'm sory for mistakes :) > > > > > > > > =============================== > Polish wersion of this message: > =============================== > > Witam! > > > Mam du¿y problem z FreeBSD. Mianowicie... œci¹g³em sobie system ze > strony www.freebsd.org wypali³em na 2 p³ytach CD i zainstalowa³em. > Wszystko dobrze chodzi³o... do czasu a¿ zmieni³em komputer tzn. dysk > twardy, RAM i nagrywarke mam ze starego. Moja stara konfiguracja: > > P³yta g³. ASrock k7s8x, > 384MB RAM, > GeForce 2 MX 400, > Dyski twarde: Western Digital 40 GB (ATA 133), i Samsung 60GB (ATA 133). > Procesor: Duron 1400 > Karta sieciowa - SIS 10/100 zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ > Karta dŸwiêkowa - AC 97 <- system jej nie wykrywa³ poprawnie > > Na powy¿szym sprzêcie system pracowa³ bezb³êdnie, z wyj¹tkiem > wspomnianej karty dŸwiêkowej. > > > Moja obecna konfiguracja: > > P³. g³ówna: 939NF4G - SATA2 > Procesor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ venice socket 939 > Karta graficzna - zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ - GeForce 6100 - pamiêæ > 128MB > Karta sieciowa - zintegrowana z p³yt¹ g³ówn¹ - Realtek PHY RTL8201CL > Karta dŸwiêkowa - Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec > RAM - 768MB (128 zarezerwowane dla karty graficznej wiêc dostêpne jest > 640MB RAM) > Wersja BIOS-u - P1.30 > > > I wzi¹³em wyczyszczony dysk (bez jakichkolwiek partycji) pod³¹czony > jako jedyny dysk, po wybraniu opcji default boot, wybraniu opcji > standard, naciœniêciu ok w oknie gdzie pisze coœ o fdisk-u, wybraniu > dysku - w moim przypadku ad0 wyœwietla sie komunikat: > > > > Warning: A geometry of 77545/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more > likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you are unsure as to > whether or not it's correct, please consult the Hardware Guide in the > Documentation submenu or use the (G)eometry command to change it now > > Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the geometry is! > For IDE it's what yoy were told in the BIOS setup. For SCSI, it's the > translation mode your controller is using. Do NOT use a "physical > geometry" > > > > I nic da³em na ok, rozplanowa³em partycje da³em na instaluj i pojawi³ > mi siê komunikat o b³êdzie, ¿e nie mo¿na zapisaæ danych na dysk i na > tym koniec. > > Próbowa³em zainstalowaæ FreeBSD w wersji 5.4 (i386), 6.0 (i386), 6.0 > (AMD 64) i ci¹gle siê pojawia ten komunikat. > > Jeœli to Was pocieszy, to linux SuSE nie wykry³ mi wogóle ¿adnego > sprzêtu, za wyj¹tkiem drukarki. Czy ja mam na tyle nietypow¹ > konfiguracje, ¿e ¿aden linux nie jest w stanie prawid³owo rozpoznaæ > mojego sprzêtu??? > > Nie by³oby takiego problemu, gdyby nie to, ¿e musze mieæ linuxa, bo > chodzê do liceum na profil matematyczno - fizyczno - informatyczny i > linuxa musze mieæ... Prêdzej te¿ go mia³em zainstalowanego, ale > g³ównie do zabawy, w celu poznania czegoœ innego oprócz windowsa. I > musze powiedzieæ, ¿e FreeBSD to, jak dot¹d najlepszy linux, z jakim > siê spotka³em. Jego instalacja jest z leksza dziwna, ale z 23 - > stronicow¹ instrukcj¹ instalacji nie ma najmniejszego problemu. > FreeBSD zaskoczy³ mnie g³ównie prostot¹ i niemal¿e ca³kowit¹ > automatyzacj¹ instalacji programów, np. poprzez porty. To doskona³e > rozwi¹zanie. I w³aœnie dlatego wybra³em FreeBSD - jest funkcjonalny, > na tych dwóch p³ytach jest wiêcej oprogramowania ni¿ w innych > dystrybucjach. Jest ³atwy w obs³ude, chocia¿ musze przyznaæ, ¿e > pocz¹tki by³y tragiczne... ale to chyba normalne. Grunt to sie > przyzwyczaiæ :) > > > Dlatego prosze Was o pomoc... kompletnie nie wiem co robiæ... > pooomooocyyyyyyyyy ;( > > ======================== > end of polish message... > ======================== > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kliknij po wiecej! >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18ed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:22:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE0116A420 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:22:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D368443D70 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 19261 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 22:43:55 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 22:43:55 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:43:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50706.195.139.252.5.1137365035.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <40cbe55e9104b460fbf612695894e6e0@prodigy.net> References: <40cbe55e9104b460fbf612695894e6e0@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:43:55 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "je killen" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: message appears at prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:22:32 -0000 Something is allready binding to port 22 use netstat -4l and see if you have sshd running allready > The following messages are appearing at my terminal on a frequent basis: > > (Jan 15 09:23:05 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 > Jan 15 09:25:43 e-mach login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 ....preceeding > from /var/log/messages) > (these are the messages of concern:) > Jan 15 09:32:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > Jan 15 09:42:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > Jan 15 09:52:54 e-mach inetd[503]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use > The question is: > What is going on here? > It appears to be a conflict as one process is trying to bind to an > address that is being used by another process > However, I don't know if that is what 'bind' is in this context. If it > doesn't mean DNS BIND then that eliminates > that possibility. > Please excuse my newbe question but I hope it doesn't mean that > someone's script has snuck onto my > machine from the network and beyond. These messages are appearing when > the proxy/router machine > is not even turned on. > I would chase this down myself and not use the list but I don't know > enough of where to look. > The only clue I have is that sshd starts on boot and is also enabled in > inetd.conf. Could this > be the conflict? > Thanks so much > JK > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:28:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C80A16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146943D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A84413112F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:58:45 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DC7B85843; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:58:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:58:45 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Karol Kwiatkowski Message-ID: <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="owRCMvbHJBIqpgHE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: vocativus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pooomooocyyyy ;( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:28:47 -0000 --owRCMvbHJBIqpgHE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > vocativus wrote: >> Witam! >> > [...] > > Cze=B6=E6 vocativus, > > Nie wiem w czym tkwi problem, ale spr=F3buj zapyta=E6 na polskim forum > system=F3w BSD: > http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --owRCMvbHJBIqpgHE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDysydIubykFB6QiMRAnGqAJ0YbL9nQcJxJ5PNooPADDropotNvQCdETFh nWru79mwfpKkP7Vwcb7YWOo= =4dc6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --owRCMvbHJBIqpgHE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:31:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E097B16A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:31:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6900443D48 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:31:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 21893 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2006 22:52:43 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2006 22:52:43 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:52:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <53380.195.139.252.5.1137365563.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <75751ca80601151238r234e8768u30a753f1209556e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <003e01c6191f$d9d2cfb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> <75751ca80601151238r234e8768u30a753f1209556e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:52:43 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Laurent Debacker" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost Root Pasword. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:31:15 -0000 Booting to safe mode still ask's for the password if the console is set to insecure just thought i would point that out > I would have prefer to let someone more experienced speak, but since > there is not much answers.... > > To reset your root password I think there are two solutions: > 1) Boot in safe-mode, I think it will not ask password, and you can > juste use the passwd to reset the password. > 2) Boot with another FreeBSD install (live CD or so). Mount the > partitions you have installed FreeBSD on. chroot then passwd should > work. > I know it is confuse but I only did that with Mac OS X. > > Warning: Remember that encrypted partition can only be decrypted using > the password. > > Good luck, > Laurent. > > On 1/14/06, Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Here is a particularly embarrasing statement and question. >> >> S: While working on a FreeBSD 4.4 dev box, changed the root password, >> but >> now, cant su. the password I used is > 12 chars long, and was made >> intentionally cryptic. I know all the chars used in the password (yes I >> have >> it written down). >> >> Q: Where are all the ssh password 'guessing' utilities I see the hackers >> using on my system? Located, I could really use one. >> >> Failing this, I will need to drive to TO and reboot the system by hand >> and >> change the passwd. a waste of $50 in gas. >> >> -Grant >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:40:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA4316A427 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55143D55 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0FMeMsK025209 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:22 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0FMeLA4019558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:22 -0800 Message-ID: <43CACF54.10901@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:40:20 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:40:27 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 1/15/06, Aaron Dalton wrote: > >> I thought this might be the best place to post the question. I am >> running FreeBSD5.4-RELEASE. For the sake of argument, let's say I am >> trying to get the port editors/fte running on my Windows box via an SSH >> tunnel. I am running WindowsXP, cygwin's X11 server, and PUTTY. As far >> as I can tell from all my Googling, this should actually be quite simple: >> >> - openssh is setup on FreeBSD with X11Forwarding=yes >> - I start the cygwin X-server (XWin -ac -multiwindow) >> - Putty is configured to forward X11 sessions >> - I connect via Putty >> - running '$ fte' from the FreeBSD command line should supposedly open >> everything up now on my Windows box, but it does not. >> >> From what I understand, when I connect now via Putty the env variable >> DISPLAY should be set. But it is not (which is the error fte gives me >> when I try to run it). If I try to manually set the DISPLAY variable (I >> tried localhost:0, localhost:0.0, ip:0, ip:0.0) it still doesn't work. >> editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I wonder >> if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make things work. >> >> > > If you have cygwin installed why use putty? Just fire up xterm and use > ssh -X. You could try this too: http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ > ssh -X is deprecated in many cases I noticed, so I suggest using ssh -Y. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 22:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856AD16A425; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp02.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (smtp02.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF4243D45; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp02.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9C+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0FMpR7G026528; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:51:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.10.1.150] (adsl-065-006-140-128.sip.bna.bellsouth.net [65.6.140.128]) by smtp02.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9.3B+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0FMpOQx026525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:51:25 -0600 (CST) From: Don Hinton Organization: ISIS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:49:27 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1541904.Ox9y0tJOgU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus Subject: Re: Pooomooocyyyy ;( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:29 -0000 --nextPart1541904.Ox9y0tJOgU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Greg: On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > > vocativus wrote: > >> Witam! > > > > [...] > > > > Cze=B6=E6 vocativus, > > > > Nie wiem w czym tkwi problem, ale spr=F3buj zapyta=E6 na polskim forum > > system=F3w BSD: > > http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > > As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In > a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? ciao... don > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. =2D-=20 Don Hinton 615.480.5667 ISIS, Vanderbilt University --nextPart1541904.Ox9y0tJOgU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDytF70U0xbM5cLs0RAtRWAJ9U2yQggsjseq4SG3qrPAgGUS1y/ACeJle8 e2XxWpcGowLM2gn0vWwmeag= =eMgG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1541904.Ox9y0tJOgU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 23:02:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFC216A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:02:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F3143D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ACC131DE3; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:32:34 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11E0285843; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:32:34 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:32:34 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Don Hinton Message-ID: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:02:36 -0000 --SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > Hi Greg: > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: >>> vocativus wrote: >>>> Witam! >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> Cze=B6=E6 vocativus, >>> >>> Nie wiem w czym tkwi problem, ale spr=F3buj zapyta=E6 na polskim forum >>> system=F3w BSD: >>> http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ >> >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the latter. At http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. Anybody feel like having a go? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDytSKIubykFB6QiMRAuglAJ0TCv8myrrOtPQzb2ryP7mQKjFB1wCghtw/ qV3CukL8rFshuVl2JJ1yW5g= =67AN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 23:12:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA05B16A42B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D43543D46 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C35131DE3; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:42:41 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF57585843; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:42:40 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:42:40 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Hans Nieser Message-ID: <20060115231240.GB73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <43C6E55A.8020500@xs4all.nl> <20060113145003.GJ2451@ayvali.org> <43C9C14F.3050105@nieser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/Hw833bnybanDj6H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43C9C14F.3050105@nieser.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, siegfried.pietralla@eds.com Subject: Re: mysql backups (was Re: Remote backups, reading from and writing to the same file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:12:43 -0000 --/Hw833bnybanDj6H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 4:28:15 +0100, Hans Nieser wrote: > N.J. Thomas wrote: >> * Hans Nieser [2006-01-13 00:25:14 +0100]: >>> Among the things being backed up are my mysql database tables. This >>> made me wonder wether the backup could possibly get borked when mysql >>> writes to any of the mysql tables while tar is reading from them. >> >> Yes. While MySQL is writing to the the database, it will put the files >> on the disk in an inconsistent state. If you happen to copy those files >> while they are in that state, MySQL will see a corrupted database. > > Thanks for the replies all. I think for the short term I will simply > lock/shutdown my MySQL server (it is a home-server after all), in the long > term I think I will look into snapshotting. I've also been thinking about > just doing an SQL dump with mysqldump right before the backup, that will > still copy along the tables which may be in an inconsistent state, but > also the sql dump. We (MySQL) are currently working on an online backup solution which will address the issues you mention. We don't have a firm date yet, but it should be this year. If you or anybody else has feature requests, please let me know (preferably grog@MySQL.com, but this address will work too). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --/Hw833bnybanDj6H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDytboIubykFB6QiMRAvTxAJ9YL9KuoiRpTCXEkDcr8mFcDWRkmgCbBoPK H7eP3de56nAfCvbHhNswUX0= =ggge -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/Hw833bnybanDj6H-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 23:13:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB88916A425 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:13:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8161443D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:13:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so936956wri for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LdKWq5TKKEIT5AJBr3iBmjbXiwQCTF60g7i3HD3vvM68EcHP/fw9rApajO/vYoFvqjh/5pNDku0ATC7yJKEX92WjsQrbYV5j7t8da68Y1w+whS9IVslmiReWmZIQw1vtrKlyl9h2lixZ/Dp2U8JX0S/gxJ0v5McySQODfYADu8U= Received: by 10.64.84.12 with SMTP id h12mr365057qbb; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.47.5 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:13:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:13:55 +0200 From: Vasile Cristescu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: KGpg question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:13:58 -0000 when I try to add a new key I get this mesage : Decription failed. gpg: cannot open `dev/tty': Device not configured any ideas ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 15 23:37:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6831516A41F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:37:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA36043D45 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:37:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from eisenhower.ascendency.net ([67.173.128.145]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2006011523271601500adjffe>; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:27:17 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (ipcop.localdomain [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by eisenhower.ascendency.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0FNRFn4032452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:11 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01c61a2b$368d1790$0401a8c0@Mike8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcYaHXZvXe8t4ox0RgaiFqQ8KKwNRwADUrdA X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (eisenhower.ascendency.net [192.168.1.22]); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:27:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: RE: portupgrade errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:37:20 -0000 Mike Loiterman wrote: > When I run portupgrade, I'm getting the following errors: > > # portupgrade -a > ** Makefile possibly broken: www/apache20: > "Makefile", line 190: warning: duplicate script for target > "print-closest-mirrors" ignored > "Makefile", line 197: warning: duplicate script for target > "print-closest-mirrors" ignored > apache-2.0.55_2 > > > ---> Skipping 'www/mod_php4' (mod_php4-4.4.1_3,1) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'databases/adodb' (adodb-4.68) because a requisite > package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-gettext' (php4-gettext-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'archivers/php4-bz2' (php4-bz2-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'databases/php4-mysql' (php4-mysql-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'converters/php4-mbstring' (php4-mbstring-4.4.1_3) > because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed > (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'archivers/php4-zlib' > (php4-zlib-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' > (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'sysutils/php4-posix' (php4-posix-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/php4-session' (php4-session-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'net/php4-xmlrpc' (php4-xmlrpc-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/eaccelerator' (eaccelerator-0.9.4.r1_1) > because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'security/php4-openssl' (php4-openssl-4.4.1_3) > because > a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify - > k to force) > ---> Skipping 'security/php4-mcrypt' (php4-mcrypt-4.4.1_3) > because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-pcre' (php4-pcre-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'textproc/php4-ctype' (php4-ctype-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'lang/php4-overload' (php4-overload-4.4.1_3) > because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'devel/php4-tokenizer' (php4-tokenizer-4.4.1_3) > because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed > (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'textproc/php4-xml' > (php4-xml-4.4.1_3) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' > (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/drupal' (drupal-4.6.5_1) because a requisite > package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'security/php4-mhash' (php4-mhash-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ** Package origin of 'emacs' has been changed: 'editors/emacs' -> > 'editors/emacs19' > ** No need to upgrade 'emacs-21.3_9' (>= emacs-19.34b_1). (specify -f > to force) > ---> Skipping 'graphics/php4-gd' (php4-gd-4.4.1_3) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'lang/php4-extensions' (php4-extensions-1.0) > because a > requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed > (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/phpwiki' (phpwiki-1.2.10_1) > because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) > failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'graphics/phplot' > (phplot-4.4.6_2) because a > requisite > package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/wordpress' (wordpress-2.0.0,1) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/phpSysInfo' (phpSysInfo-2.5.1) because a > requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k > to force) > ---> Skipping 'mail/squirrelmail' (squirrelmail-1.4.5_2) because a > requisite package 'php4-gettext-4.4.1_3' (devel/php4-gettext) failed > (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'www/gallery2' (gallery2-2.0.2) > because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed > (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'graphics/jpgraph' > (jpgraph-1.19) because a requisite package 'apache-2.0.55_2' > (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping > 'print/pecl-pdflib' (pecl-pdflib-2.0.4) because a requisite package > 'apache-2.0.55_2' (www/apache20) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'www/phpmyfaq' (phpmyfaq-1.5.2) because a requisite > package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) failed (specify -k > to force) ---> Skipping 'databases/phpmyadmin' (phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2) > because a requisite package 'php4-zlib-4.4.1_3' (archivers/php4-zlib) > failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages > (*:skipped / !:failed) ! www/apache20 (apache-2.0.55_2) > (Makefile broken) > * www/mod_php4 (mod_php4-4.4.1_3,1) > * databases/adodb (adodb-4.68) > * devel/php4-gettext (php4-gettext-4.4.1_3) > * archivers/php4-bz2 (php4-bz2-4.4.1_3) > * databases/php4-mysql (php4-mysql-4.4.1_3) > * converters/php4-mbstring (php4-mbstring-4.4.1_3) > * archivers/php4-zlib (php4-zlib-4.4.1_3) > * sysutils/php4-posix (php4-posix-4.4.1_3) > * www/php4-session (php4-session-4.4.1_3) > * net/php4-xmlrpc (php4-xmlrpc-4.4.1_3) > * www/eaccelerator (eaccelerator-0.9.4.r1_1) > * security/php4-openssl (php4-openssl-4.4.1_3) > * security/php4-mcrypt (php4-mcrypt-4.4.1_3) > * devel/php4-pcre (php4-pcre-4.4.1_3) > * textproc/php4-ctype (php4-ctype-4.4.1_3) > * lang/php4-overload (php4-overload-4.4.1_3) > * devel/php4-tokenizer (php4-tokenizer-4.4.1_3) > * textproc/php4-xml (php4-xml-4.4.1_3) > * www/drupal (drupal-4.6.5_1) > * security/php4-mhash (php4-mhash-4.4.1_3) > * graphics/php4-gd (php4-gd-4.4.1_3) > * lang/php4-extensions (php4-extensions-1.0) > * www/phpwiki (phpwiki-1.2.10_1) > * graphics/phplot (phplot-4.4.6_2) > * www/wordpress (wordpress-2.0.0,1) > * www/phpSysInfo (phpSysInfo-2.5.1) > * mail/squirrelmail (squirrelmail-1.4.5_2) > * www/gallery2 (gallery2-2.0.2) > * graphics/jpgraph (jpgraph-1.19) > * print/pecl-pdflib (pecl-pdflib-2.0.4) > * www/phpmyfaq (phpmyfaq-1.5.2) > * databases/phpmyadmin (phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2) > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 251 ignored, 32 skipped and 1 failed > > > What's sort of odd is that pkg_version doesn't show any ports that > need upgrading. > > The emacs error has been around for a few weeks, but the > apache error > just happened today. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 1. I deleted /usr/port/www/apache20 2. Deleted INDEX.* 3. cvsup'ed 4. portsdb -uU 5. pkgdb -F (No errors were shown). 6. portupgrade -arR Still getting the same errors. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 00:24:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DF916A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp1.suscom.net (smtp1.suscom.net [64.78.119.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E2443D49 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (smtp1 [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C518DD8221 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11981-09 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp1.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FE84D821F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (budman [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0G0NxFP000916 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:23:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:24:01 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <000c01c61a2b$368d1790$0401a8c0@Mike8500> References: <000c01c61a2b$368d1790$0401a8c0@Mike8500> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060115192323.313F.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.24.01 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on seibercom.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new .250 at suscom.net Subject: Re: portupgrade errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:24:05 -0000 Subject: portupgrade errors > 1. I deleted /usr/port/www/apache20 > 2. Deleted INDEX.* > 3. cvsup'ed > 4. portsdb -uU > 5. pkgdb -F (No errors were shown). > 6. portupgrade -arR > > Still getting the same errors. You might try this approach. Update your ports tree. Install 'sysutils/portmanager'. Then run 'portsclean -C -D -DD -L -P -PP' which should pretty much clean up any previous build attempts. Now run 'portmanager -u -f -l -y' Once it finishes, your system should be good to go. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:14:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A35916A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C13E43D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:14:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0G1Dk9G043116 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:13:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0G1Djr8043113 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:13:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:13:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060116020929.Y42694@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: ipfw+antispoof breaks IPv6 link local X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:14:14 -0000 can it be solved? with first rule in my firewall config i have flush add 2 deny ip from any to any not antispoof works fine - as long as no IPv6 link-local communication is needed - route6d is an example. changing it to add 2 deny ip4 from any to any not antispoof is using link-local addresses spoofing?! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:21:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774E016A41F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC70943D45; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:21:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k0G1LaiU005168; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k0G1LZNI005167; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:21:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: grog@freebsd.org (Greg 'groggy' Lehey) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:21:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:21:36 -0000 > > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > Hi Greg: > > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > >>> vocativus wrote: > >>>> Witam! > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > >> > >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In > >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. > > > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > > I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > latter. At > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > Anybody feel like having a go? I don't really mind someone posting a question in another language as long as they realize that most of us will not be able to respond to it. Often enough, I think, there are others out there who can handle that language and they can respond. Hopefully they will not turn it is to a long running exchange on list in some other language. Now, if someone posts a question in something besides English and then begins to rant and flame people for not responding, then it is not acceptable. But, just starting a question here in another language is not so onerous. ////jerry > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > --SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFDytSKIubykFB6QiMRAuglAJ0TCv8myrrOtPQzb2ryP7mQKjFB1wCghtw/ > qV3CukL8rFshuVl2JJ1yW5g= > =67AN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --SA70dWWv8Z+SnoUH-- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:23:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058F616A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petr@cdr.cz) Received: from smtp-out.klfree.net (ip1.goldheart.klfree.net [62.240.168.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E88443D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petr@cdr.cz) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.klfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF73D383B for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:23:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from K2P (ip18.k2.klfree.czf [10.102.41.75]) by smtp.klfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88DCD3847 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:23:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Petr Murmak" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:22:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYaO0KzTVEq/x6rQoSTvmY6bVvcZA== Message-Id: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at mail.klfree.net Subject: mount_nullfs dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:23:28 -0000 Hi! I want to use mount_nullfs on FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE AMD64 to share part of filesystem tree between different jails, but i found this in man pages for mount_nullfs: BUGS THIS FILE SYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. Is this still valid? Because there is date May 1, 1995 underneath, so it is near 11 years old warning!? Petr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:29:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCFC16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D015D43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:29:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE33D1A3C24; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 01CEB54A21; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:29:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:29:36 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Petr Murmak Message-ID: <20060116012936.GA28909@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_nullfs dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:29:38 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:22:05AM +0100, Petr Murmak wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I want to use mount_nullfs on FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE AMD64 to share part of > filesystem tree between different jails, but i found this in man pages for > mount_nullfs: >=20 > BUGS > THIS FILE SYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T > WORK) > AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE AT YOUR > OWN > RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. >=20 > Is this still valid? Because there is date May 1, 1995 underneath, so it = is > near 11 years old warning!? On 6.0 and above it is fine. Kris --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDyvb/Wry0BWjoQKURApXwAJ9JpZ/jgE0I0EaIbPMhYYDd4oHIbACgkkOU bETvzW+60Y/39ZuVv3xQbaw= =H2Cg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:31:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC5E16A4CA for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:31:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1BA43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:31:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7AB1A3C1B; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C5DF51558; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:31:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:31:10 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Petr Murmak Message-ID: <20060116013110.GB28909@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_nullfs dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:31:13 -0000 --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:22:05AM +0100, Petr Murmak wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I want to use mount_nullfs on FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE AMD64 to share part of > filesystem tree between different jails, but i found this in man pages for > mount_nullfs: >=20 > BUGS > THIS FILE SYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T > WORK) > AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE AT YOUR > OWN > RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. >=20 > Is this still valid? Because there is date May 1, 1995 underneath, so it = is > near 11 years old warning!? I just removed the warning, BTW. Kris --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDyvdeWry0BWjoQKURAhBkAKCx1+Z5trdTbIAKNVY1RwUwL3hlzQCg+yEL mOTBeJTLmqE+DM7rszxvqlE= =QGA8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 01:47:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A76016A41F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F2D43D49; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0G1ju9W048633; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:46:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:45:45 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:47:32 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > >>Hi Greg: >> >> >> >>Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? >> >> > >I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. >At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a >choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions >is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the >latter. At >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ >there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should >really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. >Anybody feel like having a go? > >Greg > A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) has written this for a programming forum I frequent: " To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ /lingua Terra/. Accidents of history (the British Empire, the U.S. free market) have made English the standard language for international communication. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, of course, and it /is/ nice to have a common language. But I can tell you that I'd rather try and read something that has been run through a babelfish translator (like those at Altavista and Google) than some of the verbal sewage that some native English speakers seem to think is acceptable." I suppose I could ask him if his quote is BSD-licensed, or compatible. ;-) KDK -- A well-known friend is a treasure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 02:04:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C4F16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:04:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF2B43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:04:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so902689nzf for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=S4yLHMO0ZMA+8grEKWIqDI3JXc5qYxkrd5QRMXi3HWUqbR4xFwU09ima8hk9tr6x+AbMxJChkIwc7346KUwCqPw3Zypuq1vBIDcuo4wvXX/XObYZaHYR0MUxguF62ywNu3taGBjVBRlj3PSLbskWs0GmF04aW+DGXsim6ZPC9cE= Received: by 10.36.141.16 with SMTP id o16mr4660575nzd; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.133.17 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:04:55 +0700 From: RdBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.0 smbfs problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:04:56 -0000 Dear All, The same with previous question : Now i can mount our NT system from freeBSD 6.0 Stable box with samba server installed. but i have a little problem. I see in kernel log say : smb_maperror: Unmapped error 1:158 this log appear when i try to mounting and execute excel file from Samba Server share. NT Share -> Samba Server [Mounting NT Share] -> Client Login to Samba Serve= r and Execute Excel File. This only happen in Excel File. Then excel say something like sharing violation error ? Is this some kernel errors or samba errors ? Please Help Me ... Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 02:17:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD1116A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:17:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9535243D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0G2GVHZ048761; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:16:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43CB01F4.80202@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:16:20 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Staals References: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail filtering at server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:17:44 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Hey, > > I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the > system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using > this guide: > > http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html > > as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: > > 1) I would like to get all mail from questions@freebsd.org > in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my > mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses > for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep > that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? > what would then be the syntax ? > > 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: > currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail > marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: > ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? > can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install > an other program from the portstree > > Thanks in advance, > First question: what's wrong with the way TBird does it? (Sorry, that's the "consultant" in me coming out....) It does seem like you want whatever you use to do it in the same way that it's currently being done, so why change? In particular, your (2) above is an area of little consensus; about the only thing most people agree on is that spammers should have *some* body part removed, but we can't even agree which one, much less exactly how to handle their um, "product". Some argue that spam should not be processed by your MTA at all; this has resulted in "blacklisting" and "greylisting". Others figure that an automatic "trashing" of the spam after receipt is OK. First, decide which you are/want to be. Sendmail has, IIRC, a built in way to check RealTime blackhole DNS lists. Any farther than that, you get into Milter (Mail fILTER) or SpamAssassin (as mentioned previously) or Amavis +SpamAssassin, or ..., or ... (there are several ways to skin the cat). Quite possibly, the best question for you ATM is: are you protecting just yourself from spam, or are others going to be affected by what you do to your SendMail? Then, do some research and reading on the problem. I've tried SendMail+Amavis+SpamAssassin with some success. One big issue for me: time to administer the server, in particular the "learning curve" phase. I've also done some other tricks, like listing IP blocks against sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow; but this has gotten me into trouble as, occasionally, international correspondents (like here on the lists) ended up "blocked" by my MTA. So, good luck! and, "to each his own". Kevin Kinsey -- Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. -- H. L. Mencken From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 02:29:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E0C16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA33143D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64D7131DE1; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:59:01 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A42E85843; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:59:01 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:59:01 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z/AAsH1r4ZXu3bz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:29:03 -0000 --z/AAsH1r4ZXu3bz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 19:45:45 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: >>> >>> Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? >> >> I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. >> At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a >> choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions >> is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the >> latter. At >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ >> there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should >> really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. >> Anybody feel like having a go? > > A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) > has written this for a programming forum I frequent: > > " To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can > only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ > /lingua Terra/. Hmm. I don't want to justify the choice of language, just state it. It's an interesting document, but I don't think it's what we want. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --z/AAsH1r4ZXu3bz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDywTtIubykFB6QiMRAs4XAJ41gdrKhyJ7hEfhM1dmdco9wXtdUwCfdIxM bxPvPUENyG1hL7PYQA4CwMs= =25lx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z/AAsH1r4ZXu3bz7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 02:52:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9E816A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E602B43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so807326wxc for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:52:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qKRAi5Ll953JVb3VnV1JS/DNu9biThPRc/Z/FbKbddWrPlrCXu/QDyPZg2iVpfOWWu0YTtC0jjHnJWMmwaF0NCxadmYAxYHpJ16o5rFbpBOjZtqFYZAjujLUErsjhxIjGmwYwRELdDXrZajMd8yRxjt4e8KX1h3zrgqQvfuBkfU= Received: by 10.70.117.12 with SMTP id p12mr7163016wxc; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:52:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:52:06 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: kael@sonic.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_42557_6627507.1137379926148" References: Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: canned distribution's i86 disk space requirements? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:52:08 -0000 ------=_Part_42557_6627507.1137379926148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 1/13/06, Kael Fischer wrote: > Hi all: > > I am curious as to the disk space requirements of the various "canned > distribution sets" on i86 hardware. > > While the following excerpt from the Handbook > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.ht= ml) > was accurate back in the day (I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.X), it > doesn't seem to have much relationship to the "Minimal" canned > distributions in 6.0-Release. It certainly seems that X has grown > larger than the 100 MB suggested. > > > A minimal installation of FreeBSD takes as little as 100 MB of disk > > space. However, that is a very minimal install, leaving almost no > > space for your own files. A more realistic minimum is 250 MB without > > a graphical environment, and 350 MB or more if you want a graphical > > user interface. If you intend to install a lot of third party software = as > > well, then you will need more space. > > Does anyone know how much space Minimal, User and X-User take to > install? This would be excellent information to have available for > the user and sysinstall itself. > > What would be almost too much to hope for, would be some error > checking where the diskspace requirements of the selected packages are > compared to the requested partitioning scheme before the commit. It > was a dream I had once... The current failure mode is inelegant. > > [this is not a flame about sysinstall... i find it easy to use, most > of the time, and it has improved over the years.] > > If someone knows the answer, let's get it into the handbook. Or > perhaps someone has hooks for sysinstall/dist.h and dist.c that can > pull out the tar file names (e.g. base.am,...) for various sets? I > imagine that a basic understanding of the install process would be all > that is really needed to figure out what files are used for what sets. > The attached report I made should answer all of your questions. -- Please sign the native Flash player for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html ------=_Part_42557_6627507.1137379926148 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=freebsd6-space-requirements Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="freebsd6-space-requirements" Report on installation disk space requirements for FreeBSD 6-RELEASE: Test Rig: VMware 5 (Win2K/NTFS), VM Settings: 32MB RAM 64MB RAM For KDE-Lite Install (failed with 32MB) 128MB RAM For GNOME-Lite Install (failed with 64MB) 4GB Hard Drive (Default settings) CD-ROM (Pointing to FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 ISO Images) No USB, No Audio, No LAN FreeBSD Disk Layout: ad0s1a 4095MB / ufs2 ad0s1b null swap null ad0s1d null /var null ad0s1e null /tmp null ad0s1f null /usr null Everything (/tmp, /var, and /usr) is setup on the root partition, no swap partition was setup. Results: * 1st column of numbers are from the VM disk image file. * 2nd column is from inside FreeBSD with "du -m". * All numbers reported in megabytes. Distribution Sets: Developer 918 741 X-Developer 1080 882 Kern-Developer 526 427 X-Kern-Developer 690 568 User 393 319 X-User 560 461 Minimal 183 156 Miscellaneous Sets: X-User (All X.Org) 572 476 X-User + GNOME-Lite 1247 1115 X-User + KDE-Lite 1438 1323 Minimal + Ports System 466 425 Minimal + Linux Compat. 438 282 Extrapolated Results: Ports System 283 270 GNOME-Lite 688 655 KDE-Lite 879 864 X.Org Default Install 164 143 X.Org Full Install 177 158 Linux Binary Compat. 255 127 Sys Sources + Proflibs 392 315 Kern Sources + Proflibs 133 109 ------=_Part_42557_6627507.1137379926148-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 03:06:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B747016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5162343D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (12-202-24-76.client.insightbb.com[12.202.24.76]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20060116030559i9200cr2pee>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:05:59 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:44:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601152144.53719.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: ataraid doesn't support dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:06:00 -0000 I've recently upgraded from 5.4 to 6-Stable. I'm using the "ar" ataraid device on my Promise controller on the ASUS moboard. Are there any plans to add dump support to the ar driver? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 04:31:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CE016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:31:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhfoo@nexlabs.com) Received: from tin.colossus.net (tin.colossus.net [216.121.224.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD56043D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhfoo@nexlabs.com) Received: from nexpc (63.210-193-15.adsl.qala.com.sg [210.193.15.63]) by tin.colossus.net (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06061; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:31:11 -0800 Message-ID: <001c01c61a56$eba88f80$c801a8c0@nexpc> From: "Foo Ji-Haw" To: "n-n" , References: <20060114133326.64176.qmail@web3301.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:40:02 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: Re: OS use rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:31:17 -0000 And nobody in your project uses Windows too? Not even 3.1? ----- Original Message ----- From: "n-n" To: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: OS use rate > OS use rate in my project. > 2005/01/10 - 2006/01/10 > RedHat Enterprise Linux ES3.0 - 3947 > RedHat Enterprise Linux AS3.0 - 1287 > Sun Solaris 9 - 583 > *BSD - 0 > > > -------------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail - supported by 10million people > http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/mail_pr/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 05:03:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE4716A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:03:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907C643D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:03:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1EyMWr-000Hw3-CM; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:03:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> References: <20060116012323.C88DCD3847@smtp.klfree.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3FE526F3-242F-4FC3-8B91-B8FE5F77E5DD@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:03:37 -0700 To: Petr Murmak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_nullfs dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:03:43 -0000 On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Petr Murmak wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use mount_nullfs on FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE AMD64 to share > part of > filesystem tree between different jails, but i found this in man > pages for > mount_nullfs: > > BUGS > THIS FILE SYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT > DOESN'T > WORK) > AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE > AT YOUR > OWN > RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. > > Is this still valid? Because there is date May 1, 1995 underneath, > so it is > near 11 years old warning!? I've been using it on 5.4 systems to share between jails (mostly RO for safety but some RW) and it has worked just fine Chad > > Petr > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 06:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14316A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80C343D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so1038924wri for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kXTChTNpIPPb/t8dI5h2PZohME8ABouyuKQN1OBkTW9i6DCs8nH7YHL3goI+Z7iD5eZUbQPblN4RGAI2Z1XRiID+nL07Wua03FBn+f5VNDL+j1zp+Kje6c7LivsLrvwN0KYfjPV1fqvBdSQmtmkZV7UvusASCyRsQThS0Xt4JpE= Received: by 10.65.253.11 with SMTP id f11mr2270443qbs; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.213.4 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:51:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0601152251l2d689092rf4b45c095ae2802e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:28 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <43CB01F4.80202@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43C93519.1040309@gmx.net> <43CB01F4.80202@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Frank Staals Subject: Re: Mail filtering at server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:51:29 -0000 Hi I'd agree with the learning curve for SA. it's not huge, but there is one. as for time spend on admin, for me a few minutes per day making sure there's no new handy handy rules to add by lurking on the sa-users list. I use RulesDuJour to get most of my non-included rules to update automatically, and I use MailScanner to glue the MTA, SA and virus scanners together. Very little work. But yes for a single user T'birds default spam trap may work quite well and do the job quickly. -- Martin On 1/16/06, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Frank Staals wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the > > system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using > > this guide: > > > > http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html > > > > as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: > > > > 1) I would like to get all mail from questions@freebsd.org > > in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my > > mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses > > for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep > > that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? > > what would then be the syntax ? > > > > 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: > > currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail > > marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: > > ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? > > can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install > > an other program from the portstree > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > First question: what's wrong with the way TBird does it? > (Sorry, that's the "consultant" in me coming out....) It does > seem like you want whatever you use to do it in the same > way that it's currently being done, so why change? > > In particular, your (2) above is an area of little consensus; > about the only thing most people agree on is that spammers > should have *some* body part removed, but we can't even > agree which one, much less exactly how to handle their > um, "product". > > Some argue that spam should not be processed by your > MTA at all; this has resulted in "blacklisting" and "greylisting". > Others figure that an automatic "trashing" of the spam after > receipt is OK. First, decide which you are/want to be. > > Sendmail has, IIRC, a built in way to check RealTime blackhole > DNS lists. Any farther than that, you get into Milter (Mail > fILTER) or SpamAssassin (as mentioned previously) or Amavis > +SpamAssassin, or ..., or ... (there are several ways to skin > the cat). > > Quite possibly, the best question for you ATM is: are you > protecting just yourself from spam, or are others going to > be affected by what you do to your SendMail? > > Then, do some research and reading on the problem. > > I've tried SendMail+Amavis+SpamAssassin with some success. > One big issue for me: time to administer the server, in particular > the "learning curve" phase. > > I've also done some other tricks, like listing IP blocks against > sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow; but this has gotten me into trouble > as, occasionally, international correspondents (like here on the > lists) ended up "blocked" by my MTA. > > So, good luck! and, "to each his own". > > Kevin Kinsey > > -- > Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. > -- H. L. Mencken > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 06:57:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A1B16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixnerds@isonews2.com) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E72B43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixnerds@isonews2.com) Received: (qmail 98256 invoked by uid 85); 16 Jan 2006 06:57:02 -0000 Received: from unixnerds@isonews2.com by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.737962 secs); 16 Jan 2006 06:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?59.94.211.42?) (unixnerds@isonews2.com@59.94.211.42) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 06:57:00 -0000 Message-ID: <43CB9107.6090105@isonews2.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:26:47 +0000 From: david User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: compile with HFS+ support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:57:08 -0000 how can i compile freebsd GENERIC kernel with HFS+ support?sorry for stupid question.i am newbie in freebsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 07:20:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5472C16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77CF43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:20:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from alpha.home (ppp145-139.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net [59.167.145.139]) by ash25e.internode.on.net (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0G7KokY027784; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:50:50 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jaj13@web.de Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:50:49 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601161750.49358.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:20:53 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:03 am, Jona Joachim wrote: > Hi! > I'm quite new to FreeBSD and I have some concerns about > partitioning. I plan to install FreeBSD-6 as a desktop system > and I bought a new Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JB hard > drive to use it as a second disk for storing music, movies, > photos and stuff like that on it. I also want to put the swap > partition on it as this drive will be idle most of the time. > So basically I want to create 2 partitions on this drive: one > 2GB partition for swap and one big UFS partition for data. > Fdisk reported that it couldn't clearly identify the disk > architecture because it thinks that the architecture is > different from what BIOS tells. Here is fdisk's output after > having created a slice: With large modern disks the "architectures" quoted are mostly ficticious bearing little are no relationship to the physical structure of the disk. With LBA addressing the precise ficticious architecture used is mostly of little significance. > > ******* Working on device /dev/ad1 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 0, size 156296322 (76316 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 1; > end: cyl 512/ head 253/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > After creating a slice I created the partitions inside it with > disklabel. In every example I saw the swap partition was in > the second place. However, I want it to be in the beginning of > the disk as this should result in better performance. Are > there any concerns about this layout? I basically used the > standards mentioned by the manual pages of disklabel: > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 2g * swap > b: * * 4.2BSD 4096 16384 64 > c: * * unused > Partition 'a' for root and 'b' for swap is a strongly established convention and departure could lead to all sorts of hassles. If you must have swap earlier than the root partition then retain the labels but change the positions -- that is set the offset of 'a' so that it falls after 'b' and set the 'b' partition at or near the beginning of the slice. To me it it is not entirely clear whether reservations for things like disklabels are not automatically taken care of when 'a' is the first partition in the slice, so I suggest if you place the 'b' partition first you do this with an offset of 16 sectors. But make it a rule to retain the traditional relationship between partition names and usage; just move the partition allocation. Malcolm Kay > Here is an output of what the layout now actually looks like: > > # /dev/ad1s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize > bsize bps/cpg] a: 4194304 0 swap > b: 152102018 4194304 4.2BSD 4096 16384 20732 > c: 156296322 0 unused 0 > 0 > > The number of cylinders in a cylinder group bps/cpg was > automatically changed to 20732 which is quite different from > 64. Why is that so? I haven't had any problems with the disk > until now but I don't want to expose my data to danger by > using a broken disk layout. Thanks for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 08:20:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BD016A425 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A43C43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:20:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT600KL2F5VV280@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT600FXPF5V5FM0@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([24.85.154.162]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IT600EV5F5V58E0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:20:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.18/230]); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:20:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:20:21 -0800 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <1137361628.1a94f60SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> To: SP373@student.apu.ac.uk Message-id: <43CB5745.7030904@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mF4KDYSkIME4jbXRIl9+Ew)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <1137361628.1a94f60SP373@student.apu.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rootkit detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:20:22 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_mF4KDYSkIME4jbXRIl9+Ew) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Spyridon: Thank you for your replies. I was able to install the chkrootkit port and it seems to show the system as clean. To all other replies, thank you for your help also. Cheers, Graham/ SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS wrote: >Hi again, > >Well check this.... >the message in my /var/log/messages is: >"kernel: arp: 192.168.2.34 moved from 00:13:8f:4c:1b:41 to 00:11:2f:0c:b1:0a on rl0" > >So Hmm now that i am thinking of it again: > >"server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP address >192.168.0.102" > >This also looks like an IP conflict!! And it is not similar to mine, even if it can be the same... >Someone more experienced maybe can make this clear. To be honest i haven't seen the output you posted before... > >Sorry for the inconvenience if i was wrong before.. > >Spiros > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Graham North >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:23:08 -0800 >>Subject: Rootkit detection >> >> > > > >>I would like to determine if my server has had >rootkit installed by a >>hacker. >>FBSD 4.11. Main entrances are only http, ssh and >also webmin. >> >> > > > >>My server went down sometime recently. When I went >investigate there >>was a somewhat nasty message saying: >> >> > > > >>"server /kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my >>IP address >>192.168.0.102" >> >> > > > >>The mac address 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 does not belong to >any of my hardware. >>("server" is a pseudonymn for this email but is the >machine name for the >>server on my home network - 192.68.0.102 is the LAN >addr on my router) >> >> > > > >>The auth log files have been rolled over several >times in the last few >>weeks and I have not unzipped them yet to see if any >entries were >>accepted but the most recent one is filled with >unsuccessful attacks to >>sshd on high port numbers, ie sshd[86417]. >>My biggest concern is the message at the top of this >email "server >>/kernel: arp 00:11:43:4a:8d:18 is using my IP >address 192.168.0.102", it >>sounds scary. >> >> > > > >>Can someone give please me some guidance as to how >to determine whether >>my machine is comprimised? >>Thanks, Graham/ >> >> > > > >>-- >>Kindness can be infectious - try it. >> >> > > > >>Graham North >>Vancouver, BC >>www.soleado.ca >> >> > > > > > -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca --Boundary_(ID_mF4KDYSkIME4jbXRIl9+Ew) Content-type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006 --Boundary_(ID_mF4KDYSkIME4jbXRIl9+Ew)-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 08:22:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF5116A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A61343D5F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id TAA22875; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:21:50 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:21:49 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Bob @ Brisbane" In-Reply-To: <000e01c61a25$d173d7e0$0101a8c0@bob> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:22:02 -0000 Hi Bob. I got the mail from your yahoo address too. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Bob @ Brisbane wrote: > Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au ([203.185.225.22]) As suspected, our sendmail was unable to reverse resolve this SMTP sender's IP address, or it would have included it between the () brackets, see below. That first gargoyle.apana.org.au string is just the HELO gargoyle sent (which can be forged, but presumably isn't :) Our MX accepted your unresolvable address anyway (ie not blacklisted specifically) but it appears that mx*.freebsd.org will not - or at least your message didn't make the latest questions-digest received here just recently. > by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with ESMTP id JAA07721 > for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:48:31 +1100 (EST) > (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) > Received: from bob (jwillson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.224]) Whereas gargoyle, also a (later) sendmail, reverse resolved your box ok. > by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id k0FMlwkk072910; > Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:47:58 +1000 (EST) > (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) > Message-ID: <000e01c61a25$d173d7e0$0101a8c0@bob> > From: "Bob @ Brisbane" > To: "Ian Smith" > Cc: > References: <43CA6674.98FAF2A7@nimnet.asn.au> > Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:48:29 +1000 [..] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In this case, Outcast Distress is not the problem :) > This is from my apana address. I get both the item to me and also the one > from the list. Presumably because our reverse IP is working. But apana's is not :( Suggest contacting support etc ASAP. Copy my mail to 'em if it helps. Cheers, Ian > Bob Willson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Smith" > To: ; > Cc: ; "Micah" ; > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:12 AM > Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions [..] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 09:04:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC7616A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@gilmer.tv) Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB8343D72 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:04:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@gilmer.tv) Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.217.11.9]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060116090432.BQBA23346.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:04:32 -0500 Received: from T40.gilmer.tv ([68.217.11.9]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060116090432.VJVX8357.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@T40.gilmer.tv> for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:04:32 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116034829.039041b8@gilmer.tv> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:04:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Gilmer In-Reply-To: <20060116065153.06E7F16A422@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20060116065153.06E7F16A422@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: unable to build ntp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:04:46 -0000 Help please. I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build ntp. Process fails during ./configure with the following results: # cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp # ./configure --------------------------snip------------------- configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating ElectricFence/Makefile config.status: error: cannot find input file: ElectricFence/Makefile.in Interestingly, I get the same results using a 4.5 machine. I note that in the /usr/src/contrib/ntp/FREBSD-upgrade file, it states in part, For the import of NTP the following files were removed: ElectricFence/* so it makes sense that ElectricFence is not there, but how do I get rid of the error? Background: I have the following entry in my crontab: 7 0-23 * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org >/dev/null In the old days, ntpdate would only send root an email if it could not find a server. Now I get emails every time the cron runs, even though I am dumping STDOUT to /dev/null. Problem is code in 6.0 directs server found messages to STDERR, while 4.5 code did not contain this. I want to recompile with the server found messages directed to STDOUT. Thanks in advance, Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 09:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0247816A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8580C43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0G9gbP06929; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:39:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060112141128.59983.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Sparc vs i386 architecture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:39:14 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:11 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Sparc vs i386 architecture > > >Yeah, Ted. Good cars are a waste of money. You're >really starting to sound like a poor guy now! So >goes it for good food. If the person your buying it for can't use it, then yes. I have a friend that had a peanut allergy. Buying the most expensive gourmet peanut butter for him would be a total waste of money. He can't use it. Just like your 100Mph toy. Actually worse than your 100Mph toy since he cannot even use the peanut butter in a sex game to get his rocks off, while you can get yourself off thinking about your toy that you can't use. >Good wine? Well you can >get drunk on cheap wine too, so who cares. lol > If your goal of drinking wine is to get drunk, you don't deserve the good stuff. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 09:41:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AD216A420 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:41:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779B343D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:41:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0G9fshx015063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:41:54 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.7.138] (pinocchio.dyn.cs.washington.edu [128.208.7.138]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0G9fssP001928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:41:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <949AA320-463C-494A-B43C-2474BABCC625@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:42:55 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:41:56 -0000 On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 19:45:45 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: >>>> >>>> Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? >>> >>> I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. >>> At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a >>> choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". - >>> questions >>> is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the >>> latter. At >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd- >>> questions/ >>> there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should >>> really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. >>> Anybody feel like having a go? >> >> A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) >> has written this for a programming forum I frequent: >> >> " To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can >> only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ >> /lingua Terra/. > > Hmm. I don't want to justify the choice of language, just state it. > It's an interesting document, but I don't think it's what we want. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. I think it would most likely be a better idea for people who speak other languages than English to post to other mailing lists. I don't form my opinion from an elitism point of view, but rather just recognize the fact that their problem or question would be answered more quickly by a community converses in their own native language as opposed to an English speaking community. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 11:26:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CB343D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0GBTSP07666; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:29:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Jeays" , "Uncle Deejy-Pooh" Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:25:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1137097876.56514.15.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:26:04 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mike Jeays >Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:31 PM >To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD > > > >Anyone can remain on the mailing list. People only get drummed out if >they make a real nuisance of themselves with irrelevant or offensive >postings. And that's questionable. I think to get axed, your abuse has to be along the lines of spamming the list with hundreds of messages or some such. Simply calling someone a stupid idiot doesen't seem to do the trick, as a number of people who have decided to get insulted by what I've told them have found out to their (I assume) disappointment. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 12:00:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F89B16A438 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D1C43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060116120049.PYCO11753.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060116120049.UUQL24348.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:49 +0000 Message-ID: <43CB8AEF.2050704@ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:47 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: david References: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> <43CA568A.20400@ntlworld.com> <43CAB87C.2030005@isonews2.com> In-Reply-To: <43CAB87C.2030005@isonews2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:00:52 -0000 david wrote: > >> >> how can i compile freebsd GENERIC kernel with HFS+ support?sorry for >> stupid question.i am newbie in freebsd This site should help you install the utils and module that you need... http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 13:37:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA65616A422 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ldrada@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5361D43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:37:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ldrada@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k3so634678ugf for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:37:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SZkfmU0NOUyuRW1tE65u8ER1cwdXgfZTljLzhW51xWpbcmFlVeHSJlOEmOzx1894P5/EEZ9HuNWNBQ/CPsX02U3bH3vbqTNsjOF5Tq2OzVQq0dO57Mf2T0y4NXTAn22pCzOU6YrDmfX/NpmIwnkJNxnl6Psy1FC0QR2jrmxa0M4= Received: by 10.48.212.16 with SMTP id k16mr234786nfg; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.2.4 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5ceb5d550601160530w2b210f8ar4349cf1e1407a6db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:01 +0100 From: "Daniel A." To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh In-Reply-To: <43C70BE1.6080406@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43C70BE1.6080406@ntlworld.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:37:38 -0000 Hi, Congratulations on your success with PC-BSD. I think that the nature of the BSD license can also indirectly be applied to the FreeBSD mailing lists: Anyone can play along. We're not elitist snobs =3D) On 1/13/06, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > Hey, I've spent the day using pc-bsd, and I quite like it ! Can I remain > on the > mailing list, or are people already forming hollow squares to drum me out= ? > > Regards to all for the New Year, > Deej > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 13:53:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C256816A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guivho@vanhoecke.org) Received: from europa.telenet-ops.be (europa.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB743D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guivho@vanhoecke.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by europa.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F796380A8; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:53:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (d54C325A3.access.telenet.be [84.195.37.163]) by europa.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C7238060; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:53:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CBA54E.4060502@vanhoecke.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:53:18 +0100 From: Guido Van Hoecke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051013 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian Keil References: <43C99562.6010707@vanhoecke.org> <20060115144450.7583c09f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060115144450.7583c09f@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdwriter - icybox - usb problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:53:11 -0000 Fabian Keil wrote: >Guido Van Hoecke wrote: > > > >>I have to connect my Plextor PX-716A dvd-writer via an external >>IDE-to-USB/1394 Icybox (IB-550UE-B-BL) to my freebsd-6.0-RELEASE pc. >>This pc is an IBuddy Desknote A928 without room for internal extra >>devices. So I bought an Icybox enclosure, put the plextor in it and >>connected the icybox through USB: >> >>umass0: vendor 0x0402 USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.05, addr 2 >>da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >>da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device >>da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >>da0: 0MB (1 0 byte sectors: 0H 0S/T 0C) >> >>guivho@wodan:~> sudo cdrecord -scanbus >>Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 >>Jörg Schilling >>Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. >>... >>scsibus3: >> 3,0,0 300) 'USB 2.0 ' 'Storage Device ' '0111' Disk >>... >>guivho@wodan:~> >> >>How do I tell FreeBSD that this is a DVD-writer rather than a hard >>disk? >> >> > >Have you tried to use it? > >Does cdrecord dev=3,0,0 -prcap show false information as well? > > No, I did not try it. Ms XP had the same problem when connecting over USB. However, connecting over firewire to XP was ok. Due to lack of time for further experimenting, the plextor is now built in into my freebsd server as a normal ide device. So this is now a non-problem. Thanks for your reply though, Guido. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 14:26:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E46016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5066C43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:26:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.218]) by ylpvm29.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0GEQqrk007529 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:26:52 -0500 X-ORBL: [66.136.206.1] Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GEQpUL079054; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:26:56 -0500 Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GEQibY069119; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:26:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost.immure.com [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GEQimE027522; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:26:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k0GEQhri027521; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:26:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:26:43 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: Matthew Flanagan Message-ID: <20060116142643.GA22152@rancor.immure.com> References: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <7cd06a2d050622095256dfe43a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7cd06a2d050622095256dfe43a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:26:59 -0000 On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:52:22PM -0300, Matthew Flanagan wrote: > On 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400, Lowell Gilbert > wrote: > > Matthew Flanagan writes: > > > > > I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports when > > > suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking > > > /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: > > > > > > Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, > > > shutting down soon! > > > Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature > > > (60.0C) exceeds safe limits > > > > > > Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: > > > > > > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > > > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > > > > > > When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the > > threshold in > > > the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: > > > > > > bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3580 # 3580 tenths of Kelvin=85C > > > sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only > > > > > > I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. > > > > > > Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several > > manpages > > > (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked the > > > handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? > > > > Can it be set at boot time? [from the loader?] > > Perhaps, but loader(8) lists the kernel tunable parameters available, and > hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d._CRT isn't one of them. Did you ever discover a resolution to this? I have a Shuttle SN95G5 system that is doing the same thing. To make matters worse, it appears that the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature value that is being returned is 5 to 10 degrees higher than what BIOS thinks (I am inclined to believe the BIOS on this one). I can change the CPU fan speed settings in the BIOS. It has pretty extensive control of this, with the default setting of "SMART FAN" where it controls fan speed based on CPU temperature. Unfortunately, in that mode the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature slews to 60C (while BIOS reads below 50C) before the fan has sped up enough. I can also set the fan speed control to fixed, relatively higher values, but the fan noise is then bothersome. So, anyone know where the 60C value for hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT is derived from and how to change it? Thanks, Bob > > Cheers, > Matt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bob Willcox Maintainer's Motto: bob@immure.com If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 14:42:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:42:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E6443D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:42:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4061 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 14:22:57 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 14:22:56 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E85B528423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:22:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Ravi Kumar References: <20060113194023.3645.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 09:22:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060113194023.3645.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44d5isgslc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System hangs for 30 minutes before booting normally into freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:42:51 -0000 Ravi Kumar writes: > Hello, > I am a new convert to freebsd 6.0. I installed it > on one of my old machine - a celeron 333 MHz, 98 MB > RAM, with ISA slots. While installing it on my system, > I faced a problem that it took a long time to load the > freebsd installer menu. So I rebooted and selected the > FreeBSD installation in verbose mode. > > This is the verbose output snippet I recieved: > > ... > pci0: at device 73 (no drivers attached) > pci0: at device 16.0 (no driver > attached) > ex_isa_identify() > ata: ata0 already exists; skipping it > ata: ata1 already exists; skipping it > > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 203 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 243 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 283 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 2c3 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 303 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 343 > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 383 > ... > > The problem is the last 8 lines above. It is I believe > scanning some ports and is taking such a long time. > After this the normal booting is quite fast. > > Is there any way I can disable this process of > scanning that is taking place? After installing > freebsd, each time I boot into it, it hangs for 30 > minutes at the code snippet above. > > My uname -a command gave the following output. > > FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 > 09:36:13 UTC 2005 > root@x64.samco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > Looking forward to a reply to this problem. This is unlikely to solve your problem, but it will ease tracking down what probe is giving you problems: build a custom kernel removing devices you aren't using. See if you get any more information there. Then try disabling ACPI; I wouldn't be surprised if your system had no support for it anyway. And maybe try a verbose boot without ACPI. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 14:46:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA4416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3812543D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so892687wxc for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:46:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CQUlBCIdmb5z5aBeePmw70E0hz653eqs+StqOygHbkHE2uR+R+hbJ45OoVBOzzYCYADc6ba7NsMUiiO6NODy4LXEO0kk2vGUoIHRUNZKZgXa2Fn2cdlwtBNetq4zLKZMFGX6NY90PBMf7qDDC5d1TKd6G48WaqH5Q6lBaw+U1lM= Received: by 10.70.110.9 with SMTP id i9mr7710982wxc; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.69.17 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:46:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601160646w2edcf663l@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:46:37 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44d5isgslc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060113194023.3645.qmail@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44d5isgslc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: Subject: Re: System hangs for 30 minutes before booting normally into freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:46:38 -0000 Also, try toggling 'pnp os installed' in the bios. On 16 Jan 2006 09:22:55 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Ravi Kumar writes: > > pnp_identify: Trying Read_Port at 203 > Then try disabling ACPI; I wouldn't be surprised if your system had > no support for it anyway. And maybe try a verbose boot without ACPI. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:00:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62F316A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21F043D62 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so894509wxc for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:00:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TolS6Cdeocql3C+6Gx3tphUad4BS5zi2i1uHj3SrULkQCv4kn7olDsMsb6ABS+bEfNyVo2cOI5ROBF8oqHtKwshHW/bW54IQ3L/5rIM+AokmfxeHrb/+VQam3sj90O8iIdtGXqKpRjYrJzqvj931V8gGSjZ58MDx0dCXczcROQg= Received: by 10.70.128.17 with SMTP id a17mr7836484wxd; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.11 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:00:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:00:17 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Sender: sveinhal@gmail.com To: n-n In-Reply-To: <20060114133326.64176.qmail@web3301.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060114133326.64176.qmail@web3301.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OS use rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:19 -0000 On 1/14/06, n-n wrote: > OS use rate in my project. > 2005/01/10 - 2006/01/10 > RedHat Enterprise Linux ES3.0 - 3947 > RedHat Enterprise Linux AS3.0 - 1287 > Sun Solaris 9 - 583 > *BSD - 0 You use FreeBSD: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=3Dyahoo.co.jp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:00:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19116A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BC343D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22337 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 14:48:50 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 14:48:49 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7B52F28423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:48:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com References: <20060114182614.85884.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 09:48:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060114182614.85884.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44slrofctq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /etc/rc.firewall and dhclient(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:00:30 -0000 writes: > I activated my firewall "client" configuration on my desktop that uses dhcp for > a cable modem. > > Everything works fine (I even enabled ping), however, everytime I shutdown and > restart the modem I find myself having to check /var/db/dhclient.leases.xl0 to > edit /etc/rc.firewall to change $net and $ip. > > Is there an easy way to automate this? That's what the "me" keyword is for in the ipfw syntax. Using this would require you to create a slightly customised version of the firewall rules file. Alternatively, you could have dhclient write the parameters out to a file that the firewall script would read in. dhclient-script(8) has "hooks" for this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:25:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D0316A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from mail.rtl.org (rtl-3.i2k.com [66.255.200.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5166843D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from mis3c.rtl.lan (rlm2.rtl.lan [209.254.56.194]) by mail.rtl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435A30AC8; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mis3c.rtl.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9792021848D; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:24:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:24:58 -0500 From: Jason Stewart To: n-n Message-ID: <20060116152458.GA10356@rtl.org> References: <20060114133326.64176.qmail@web3301.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060114133326.64176.qmail@web3301.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OS use rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:25:00 -0000 Banana? On 14/01/06 22:33 +0900, n-n wrote: > OS use rate in my project. > 2005/01/10 - 2006/01/10 > RedHat Enterprise Linux ES3.0 - 3947 > RedHat Enterprise Linux AS3.0 - 1287 > Sun Solaris 9 - 583 > *BSD - 0 > > > -------------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail - supported by 10million people > http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/mail_pr/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:28:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57BE16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:28:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5873243D4C for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:28:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 23650 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 14:36:43 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 14:36:43 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 680BE28423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:36:42 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Laurence Sanford References: <43C8F379.4050001@wilderness.homeip.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 09:36:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <43C8F379.4050001@wilderness.homeip.net> Message-ID: <448xtggryd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to make buildkernel (fresh cvsup to RELENG_6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:28:10 -0000 Laurence Sanford writes: > I'm upgrading a 5.4 machine to 6. I can buildworld successfully, but > attempting to make buildkernel fails: > > HEADERS -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Colossus > /usr/src/sys/modules/ti/../../pci/if_ti.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/ti/../../pci/if_ti.c:2536:35: macro > "VLAN_INPUT_TAG" requires 4 arguments, but only 3 given > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/ti. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Colossus. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Yes, it's a customer kernel, however, it's worth noting that GENERIC > has failed in exactly the same place with the same error. Any > suggestions? Looks like you're pulling in /usr/include/net/if_vlan_var.h instead of /usr/src/sys/net/if_vlan_var.h. Do you have CPATH or C_INCLUDE_PATH set in the environment? If not, maybe you have some stale files around, or an incorrectly updated source tree. Make sure you have the correct /usr/src/sys/net/if_vlan_var.h, and try again with a pristine /usr/obj. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:31:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7D916A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A1A43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:31:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30206 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 14:42:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 14:42:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D56D028423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:42:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Mathieu CHATEAU References: <1710605913.20060114114456@free.fr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 09:42:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1710605913.20060114114456@free.fr> Message-ID: <441wz8gron.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade of php5-gd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:31:35 -0000 Mathieu CHATEAU writes: > Hello freebsd-questions, > > even with a cvsup of ports 5 minutes ago, i still have the > following errors when i try to upgrade php5-gd from 5.0.4_2 to 5.1.1 > > > [root@######:/usr/ports/graphics/php5-gd] # make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for php5-gd-5.0.4_2 > ===> Extracting for php5-gd-5.1.1 > => MD5 Checksum OK for php-5.1.1.tar.bz2. > ===> Patching for php5-gd-5.1.1 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for php5-gd-5.1.1 > 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to config.m4.rej > => Patch patch-config.m4 failed to apply cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > I am using FreeBSD 5.4 > > any clue ? Best guess: you have stale files in the port skeleton. [See the cvsup FAQ if you are interested in how you could have avoided this in the first place, but it's a bit late for that now.] Remove the whole /usr/ports/graphics/php5-gd directory and re-cvsup. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:41:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCA016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3B543D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id k0GFfhOZ018238; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:41:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:41:43 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Brad Gilmer Message-ID: <20060116154143.GB10326@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060116065153.06E7F16A422@hub.freebsd.org> <7.0.0.16.2.20060116034829.039041b8@gilmer.tv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116034829.039041b8@gilmer.tv> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to build ntp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:41:47 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 16), Brad Gilmer said: > Help please. I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build ntp. > Process fails during ./configure with the following results: > > # cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp > # ./configure You want to build /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp . /usr/src/contrib is just where the original distribution files live. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 15:45:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC6516A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD43143D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:45:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4801 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 15:01:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 15:01:26 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A45ED28423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:01:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Brad Gilmer References: <20060116065153.06E7F16A422@hub.freebsd.org> <7.0.0.16.2.20060116034829.039041b8@gilmer.tv> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 10:01:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116034829.039041b8@gilmer.tv> Message-ID: <448xtgfc8q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to build ntp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:45:20 -0000 Brad Gilmer writes: > Help please. I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build ntp. > Process fails during ./configure with the following results: > > # cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp > # ./configure > --------------------------snip------------------- > configure: creating ./config.status > config.status: creating Makefile > config.status: creating ElectricFence/Makefile > config.status: error: cannot find input file: ElectricFence/Makefile.in > > Interestingly, I get the same results using a 4.5 machine. I note > that in the /usr/src/contrib/ntp/FREBSD-upgrade file, it states in > part, > > For the import of NTP the following files were removed: > ElectricFence/* > > so it makes sense that ElectricFence is not there, but how do I get > rid of the error? > > Background: > I have the following entry in my crontab: > 7 0-23 * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org >/dev/null > In the old days, ntpdate would only send root an email if it could not > find a server. Now I get emails every time the cron runs, even though > I am dumping STDOUT to /dev/null. Problem is code in 6.0 directs > server found messages to STDERR, while 4.5 code did not contain this. > I want to recompile with the server found messages directed to STDOUT. > > Thanks in advance, > Brad > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You could always try building from the directory that buildworld uses: /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp. But the easier answer would be to redirect stderr as well as stdout when calling ntpdate, and generate a message only if ntpdate returns an error result. Or run ntpd... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 16:15:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BCA16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:15:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2BA43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:15:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA37441F4 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:15:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id B93385444C; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:15:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:15:36 +0100 Message-ID: <20060116171536.5yk012n1eokw8gss@imp4.free.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:15:36 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: trouble installing new printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:15:35 -0000 Hi all, my previous (and still unanswered) message was: ----------------------------------------------- Hi, I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer install on FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the handbook. But when running the really simple 'lptest > /dev/lpt0' command, nothing happened, excepted the flashing light on the printer. The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light is flashing longer with lptest > /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5 > /dev/lpt0. I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and activated the lf capability. And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result. I tried many research on the net but could not find anything useful. I am now installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the compilation process. Thank you. ----------------------------------------------- So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I tested Canon BJC-800 and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible). Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5 minutes for a simple plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ? I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it. So at that point: - I can print - I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the handbook printed. Do you have anything to suggest to me ? -- Regards, Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 17:04:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269F516A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:04:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C211143D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 25672 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 16:34:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 16:34:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0C34228423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:34:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: ivan.roth@free.fr References: <20060116171536.5yk012n1eokw8gss@imp4.free.fr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 11:34:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060116171536.5yk012n1eokw8gss@imp4.free.fr> Message-ID: <44bqycxhau.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble installing new printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:04:13 -0000 ivan.roth@free.fr writes: > Hi all, > > my previous (and still unanswered) message was: > > ----------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer install on > FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the handbook. But when > running the really simple 'lptest > /dev/lpt0' command, nothing happened, > excepted the flashing light on the printer. > > The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light is flashing > longer with lptest > /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5 > /dev/lpt0. > > I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and activated the lf > capability. > > And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result. > > I tried many research on the net but could not find anything useful. I am now > installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the compilation process. > > Thank you. > ----------------------------------------------- > > So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I tested Canon BJC-800 > and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible). > > Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5 minutes for a simple > plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ? > > I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it. > > So at that point: > - I can print > - I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the > handbook printed. > > > Do you have anything to suggest to me ? You're probably running into problems with the parallel driver rather than the ghostscript (printer) driver. Try setting the parallel port to "polling". (See the FreeBSD FAQ entry for "My parallel printer is ridiculously slow. What can I do?".) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 17:12:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504A116A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:12:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936D443D69 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:12:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from arwen.nagual.st (arwen.nagual.st [192.168.11.29]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:12:31 +0100 id 0003982D.43CBD3FF.0000615C Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:12:31 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: fbsdq Message-Id: <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.0beta4 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:12:37 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:20:21 +0100 dick hoogendijk wrote: > I have a Logiteck QuickCam Chat webcam (USB-2) > The device is detected alright. But I cannot get it to work. > Kopete (KDE) i.e. does not see the device. > > I have two questions: > (a) do I need to load some kind of *.ko file (like for the soundcards) > to use a webcam under freebsd-6R? > (b) what program is useful in testing this (web) usb-camera? > Hope to get some advice. Nobody reacted. So either I'm stupid and just should know how these things work in FreeBSD, or people didn't have time yet to respond. I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should have made one if needed.. I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than that it can not be used. Who has some pointers? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 17:30:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D25E16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:30:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B68043D49 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 62977 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 17:51:39 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 17:51:39 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:51:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <53011.195.139.252.5.1137433899.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <20060116142643.GA22152@rancor.immure.com> References: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <7cd06a2d050622095256dfe43a@mail.gmail.com> <20060116142643.GA22152@rancor.immure.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:51:39 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Bob Willcox" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthew Flanagan Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:30:00 -0000 Some sysctl's can not be changed on a running system try reading the defaults/loader.conf in /boot/ see if you can change the acpi thermal setting in there if not just add those sysctl with a = 50C etc.. to loader.conf and reboot > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:52:22PM -0300, Matthew Flanagan wrote: >> On 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400, Lowell Gilbert >> wrote: >> > Matthew Flanagan writes: >> > >> > > I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports >> when >> > > suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking >> > > /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: >> > > >> > > Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, >> > > shutting down soon! >> > > Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature >> > > (60.0C) exceeds safe limits >> > > >> > > Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: >> > > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 >> > > >> > > When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the >> > threshold in >> > > the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: >> > > >> > > bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3580 # 3580 tenths of >> Kelvin=85C >> > > sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only >> > > >> > > I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. >> > > >> > > Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several >> > manpages >> > > (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked >> the >> > > handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? >> > >> > Can it be set at boot time? [from the loader?] >> >> Perhaps, but loader(8) lists the kernel tunable parameters available, >> and >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d._CRT isn't one of them. > > Did you ever discover a resolution to this? I have a Shuttle SN95G5 > system that is doing the same thing. To make matters worse, it appears > that the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature value that is being returned is > 5 to 10 degrees higher than what BIOS thinks (I am inclined to believe > the BIOS on this one). I can change the CPU fan speed settings in the > BIOS. It has pretty extensive control of this, with the default setting > of "SMART FAN" where it controls fan speed based on CPU temperature. > Unfortunately, in that mode the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature slews to > 60C (while BIOS reads below 50C) before the fan has sped up enough. I > can also set the fan speed control to fixed, relatively higher values, > but the fan noise is then bothersome. > > So, anyone know where the 60C value for hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT is > derived from and how to change it? > > Thanks, > Bob > > >> >> Cheers, >> Matt >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Bob Willcox Maintainer's Motto: > bob@immure.com If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. > Austin, TX > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:02:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A745E16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:02:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E6943D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.218]) by ylpvm29.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0GI20ri019050 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:02:00 -0500 X-ORBL: [66.136.206.1] Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GI1xIN164808; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:02:00 -0500 Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GI1sLc071971; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:01:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost.immure.com [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0GI1sBo028549; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:01:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k0GI1sIC028548; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:01:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:01:54 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: chris@i13i.com Message-ID: <20060116180154.GA28506@rancor.immure.com> References: <7cd06a2d05062205331d03372c@mail.gmail.com> <44br5y5r8o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <7cd06a2d050622095256dfe43a@mail.gmail.com> <20060116142643.GA22152@rancor.immure.com> <53011.195.139.252.5.1137433899.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53011.195.139.252.5.1137433899.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthew Flanagan Subject: Re: Raising temperature threshold X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:02:07 -0000 On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 11:51:39AM -0600, chris@i13i.com wrote: > Some sysctl's can not be changed on a running system try reading the > defaults/loader.conf in /boot/ see if you can change the acpi thermal > setting in there if not just add those sysctl with a = 50C etc.. to > loader.conf and reboot This didn't seem to work. I tried putting the following: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=70 into both /boot/loader.conf and /etc/sysctl.conf to no avail (value remained at 60). Bob > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:52:22PM -0300, Matthew Flanagan wrote: > >> On 22 Jun 2005 11:46:31 -0400, Lowell Gilbert > >> wrote: > >> > Matthew Flanagan writes: > >> > > >> > > I`ve installed a FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and I was building some ports > >> when > >> > > suddenly my system shut down. Upon rebooting it and checking > >> > > /var/log/messages, I found the following lines: > >> > > > >> > > Jun 21 16:01:30 bell root: WARNING: system temperature too high, > >> > > shutting down soon! > >> > > Jun 21 16:01:40 bell kernel: acpi_tz0: WARNING - current temperature > >> > > (60.0C) exceeds safe limits > >> > > > >> > > Then I realized what had happened. My acpi_thermal sysctl's are: > >> > > > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 50.0C > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 1 > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 50.0C > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 60.0C > >> > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 50.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 > >> > > > >> > > When I try to raise hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT to 85C (which is the > >> > threshold in > >> > > the BIOS setup) it doesn't work: > >> > > > >> > > bell# sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=3580 # 3580 tenths of > >> Kelvin=85C > >> > > sysctl: oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT' is read only > >> > > > >> > > I've tried /etc/sysctl.conf as well, but I get the same error. > >> > > > >> > > Now, my question is: how do I change this value? I've read several > >> > manpages > >> > > (acpi(4), acpi_thermal(4), acpiconf(8), and many others) and checked > >> the > >> > > handbook, to no avail. Can anyone point me to the right direction? > >> > > >> > Can it be set at boot time? [from the loader?] > >> > >> Perhaps, but loader(8) lists the kernel tunable parameters available, > >> and > >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d._CRT isn't one of them. > > > > Did you ever discover a resolution to this? I have a Shuttle SN95G5 > > system that is doing the same thing. To make matters worse, it appears > > that the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature value that is being returned is > > 5 to 10 degrees higher than what BIOS thinks (I am inclined to believe > > the BIOS on this one). I can change the CPU fan speed settings in the > > BIOS. It has pretty extensive control of this, with the default setting > > of "SMART FAN" where it controls fan speed based on CPU temperature. > > Unfortunately, in that mode the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature slews to > > 60C (while BIOS reads below 50C) before the fan has sped up enough. I > > can also set the fan speed control to fixed, relatively higher values, > > but the fan noise is then bothersome. > > > > So, anyone know where the 60C value for hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT is > > derived from and how to change it? > > > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Matt > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > > Bob Willcox Maintainer's Motto: > > bob@immure.com If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. > > Austin, TX > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Bob Willcox Maintainer's Motto: bob@immure.com If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:08:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C6816A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from postmaster.etv.net (postmaster.etv.net [208.14.190.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8660143D58 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:08:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from work.efinley.com ([205.161.203.55] helo=elliotdevelop) by postmaster.etv.net with smtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1EyYmE-00050L-Hv; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:08:22 -0700 Message-ID: <036701c61ac7$d67e3fd0$37cba1cd@emerytelcom.com> From: "Elliot Finley" To: "Bob Johnson" , "Kevin Kinsey" References: <03a301c616c7$69f896c0$37cba1cd@emerytelcom.com> <43C5454A.5000404@daleco.biz> <54db43990601111031w2d77cf79xc3f0f9417d87d9e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:08:18 -0700 Organization: Emery Telcom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup6.us.freebsd.org worthless? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Elliot Finley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:08:35 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Johnson" On 1/11/06, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Elliot Finley wrote: > > >Connected to cvsup6.us.freebsd.org > >Server message: Collection "ports-all" release "cvs" is not available here > > > > > >also, the same thing with src-all. Is this temporary or permanent? > > [...] > > If you would show your supfile ... I'm guessing it's a config issue, > but not enough info here to say positively. [...] }cvsup6 has been refusing connections for several days. If it is }accepting them now, that's an improvement. Perhaps they are bringing }it back up and don't have everything loaded yet. I think it would be better for cvsup6 not to respond at all, rather than respond but have no content. As it is, it breaks fastest_cvsup. Elliot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:36:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B093916A423 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6589843D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so1039466nzf for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kF1KWj19b+xAG2bk3swWMmChhxC4AzmOooIvshLGTWD+93erClMCbVHQdjLqW4oP5JwWQ5UcGDOy0a9+ADeIQmtLSME7nBG1CNQmrAYnl3w5eBgj4u8uLEKuHj6Z+4LP1o3T8kK0FdcnPL1uup/17MCJPPRha4xIaRj/j8Af0sU= Received: by 10.36.58.11 with SMTP id g11mr5206217nza; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.20.67 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:36:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:36:32 +0300 From: "Andrew P." To: dick hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> Cc: fbsdq Subject: Re: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:35 -0000 On 1/16/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:20:21 +0100 > dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > I have a Logiteck QuickCam Chat webcam (USB-2) > > The device is detected alright. But I cannot get it to work. > > Kopete (KDE) i.e. does not see the device. > > > > I have two questions: > > (a) do I need to load some kind of *.ko file (like for the soundcards) > > to use a webcam under freebsd-6R? > > (b) what program is useful in testing this (web) usb-camera? > > Hope to get some advice. > > Nobody reacted. So either I'm stupid and just should know how these > things work in FreeBSD, or people didn't have time yet to respond. > > I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something > relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create > a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should > have made one if needed.. > > I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be > too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than > that it can not be used. Who has some pointers? > > -- > dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > As a matter of fact google comes up with a few useful links: http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dwebcam+freebsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:36:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1B416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in) Received: from sendmail.iqara.net (sendmail.iqara.net [203.187.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CB343D5D for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in) Received: from 219-153.91.219.static.iqara.net (HELO ghar.dhoomketu.net.in) ([219.91.153.219]) by sendmail.iqara.net with ESMTP; 17 Jan 2006 00:07:08 +0530 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,373,1131301800"; d="scan'208"; a="7228209:sNHT46968272" Received: by ghar.dhoomketu.net.in (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 049485C21; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:13 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:41:13 +0530 From: Shantanoo Mahajan To: david Message-ID: <20060116181113.GA94706@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in> References: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> Organization: Eh? Whats that? X-OS: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 X-UPTIME: 11:39PM up 24 mins, 3 users, load averages: 1.08, 1.13, 0.91 X-Mailer-Website: http://www.mutt.org X-GPG-Fingerprint: 614C 591B D401 98ED 1EF1 8BCF 30A1 5685 07A6 AA4B User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r581 (FreeBSD) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:36:36 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +++ david [15-01-06 18:22 +0000]: | hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. | DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message= =2EThe iPod nano is detected when=20 | plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" You may check out /usr/ports/audio/gnupod. It works perfectly fine with Shuffle. And supposed to work with iPod also. Don't know much about Nano. --=20 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDy+HAMKFWhQemqksRAuHeAJ9vsXxNDAuLp8taf0rcKtUHIDKkngCfeelR stbUwpmQ6cBAtAWTGUb7WO0= =kkNO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:42:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9890B16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E3543D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC694290F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:42:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 99BFA543AA; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:42:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:42:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20060116194203.wi4861j7dw0cw0s8@imp4.free.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:42:03 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: jon.drews@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:42:02 -0000 Hi Jon, First thank you for your reply (same thank to Lowell Gilbert). I tried to change the mode with lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0 but that is even worth because I have no more output at all! I am a bit lost between all the confguration files now. CUPS, apsfilter and friends is too much in one day :) Can you tell me where to install an especially downloaded ppd file? Now my printer's led is flashing permanently, but nothing else happenned. I never thank that printing would be that much exciting and full of suspense :) ------------------------------------------------ Hello Ivan: On 1/16/06, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: >> So at that point: >> - I can print >> - I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the >> handbook printed. I have the same problem using foomatic-rip and lpd, on NetBSD 3. I have not tried printing recently with CUPS. I did google on "Slow printing" site:linuxprinting.org and got hundreds of hits. We are not the only ones who have this problem. Of course there were no definite answers to this problem. One suggestion was to change the /dev/lpt* from interrupt to polling, using lptcontrol. This is man 4 lpt, for the manual page. I did look at my *ppd file and saw that my resolution was set at the highest level. I am still looking into this but I have no definite answer either. I am hesitant to tinker with the way /dev/lpt* queries it's requests. -- Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:51:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F7416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0568643D6D for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:51:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BCDD2FDC2 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:34 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: J81/fFG1BpjVgfJnDbl61r9kamlsyb0Gi7yNzFdO40Xb 1137437493 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-206-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.206.18]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F171571507 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:33 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:51:28 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200601161750.49358.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200601161750.49358.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601161851.32485.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:51:49 -0000 On Monday 16 January 2006 07:20, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:03 am, Jona Joachim wrote: > > > > After creating a slice I created the partitions inside it with > > disklabel. In every example I saw the swap partition was in > > the second place. However, I want it to be in the beginning of > > the disk as this should result in better performance. Are > > there any concerns about this layout? I basically used the > > standards mentioned by the manual pages of disklabel: > > > > 8 partitions: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 2g * swap > > b: * * 4.2BSD 4096 16384 64 > > c: * * unused > > Partition 'a' for root and 'b' for swap is a strongly established > convention and departure could lead to all sorts of hassles. > > If you must have swap earlier than the root partition then retain > the labels but change the positions -- that is set the offset of > 'a' so that it falls after 'b' and set the 'b' partition at or > near the beginning of the slice. > > To me it it is not entirely clear whether reservations for things > like disklabels are not automatically taken care of when 'a' is > the first partition in the slice, so I suggest if you place the > 'b' partition first you do this with an offset of 16 sectors. If you use sysinstall for this, it's all handled automatically. You will end up with 'b' and 'd' partitions for swap and data, and no 'a' partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:00:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6EA16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:00:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DF443D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:00:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:00:28 +0100 id 0003982B.43CBED4C.00013DB7 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:00:28 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060116190028.GA81259@arwen.nagual.st> References: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:00:29 -0000 On 16 Jan Andrew P. wrote: > On 1/16/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something > > relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create > > a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should > > have made one if needed.. > > > > I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be > > too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than > > that it can not be used. Who has some pointers? > > > > As a matter of fact google comes up with a few useful links: > http://www.google.com/search?q=webcam+freebsd Sure, but they all relate to some kind of live cam broadcasting. That's not what I'm looking for. I just wonder WHY the cam is detected at boot time and cannot be found i.e. by kopete. If it exists it should be found somewhere shouldn't it? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:18:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278C416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:18:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C405043D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 28428 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 19:18:39 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2006 19:18:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7495228423; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:18:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> <20060116190028.GA81259@arwen.nagual.st> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Jan 2006 14:18:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060116190028.GA81259@arwen.nagual.st> Message-ID: <44fyno56cx.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:18:40 -0000 dick hoogendijk writes: > On 16 Jan Andrew P. wrote: > > On 1/16/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something > > > relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create > > > a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should > > > have made one if needed.. > > > > > > I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be > > > too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than > > > that it can not be used. Who has some pointers? > > > > > > > As a matter of fact google comes up with a few useful links: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=webcam+freebsd > > Sure, but they all relate to some kind of live cam broadcasting. That's > not what I'm looking for. I just wonder WHY the cam is detected at boot > time and cannot be found i.e. by kopete. If it exists it should be found > somewhere shouldn't it? Not necessarily. What are the actual messages at boot time? Is a driver attached to the device? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:20:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DD416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:20:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aburruss@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B5743D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aburruss@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so810854uge for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:20:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ds/dWYP7WL3dw19Azup2S2hBclYsordk8NG0hhyU79U0NwCxgwJvk7pffXYY9AnE70smwFt++AGC+GaUtxFt4Q0zG4nL4OlX0/XikqO3ffGxqsw0+vwbDOKwAXE0mt8XAGCOiHYwatExDKNtwQD3hnCOfvl+7Kj3qIfMcNQKYyE= Received: by 10.48.4.9 with SMTP id 9mr253956nfd; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.232.8 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1f1368120601161053y5d23eb31hc66b37f43ba52d8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:53:23 -0800 From: Aaron Burruss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1f1368120601131607n643aeb2cx7ab781dd9a9c76ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1f1368120601131607n643aeb2cx7ab781dd9a9c76ae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: External USB drive on Sun HW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:20:39 -0000 Anyone have any ideas here? On 1/13/06, Aaron Burruss wrote: > > Hi there, > > I'm looking for some help on a problem I'm having with a new setup I've > got... I'm running sparc64 6.0 and also have an external USB drive > enclosure with a 250GB IDE drive in it. The drive is formatted as a BSD > partition (formatting done on another box). > > I've got the following in my kernel: > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device usb # USB Bus (required) > device ugen # Generic > device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da > > I.m seeing this in dmesg: > > > root@sun# dmesg |grep -i umass > umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > root@sun# dmesg|grep -i usb > ohci0: mem 0xe2000000-0xe2007fff at device > 12.3 on pci1 > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > ohci1: mem 0xe5000000-0xe5007fff at device 5.= 3on pci1 > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb1: on ohci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > usbdevs shows: root@sun# usbdevs -v Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), (0x108e)(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered Controller /dev/usb1: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), (0x108e)(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, product 0x0702(0x0702), vendor 0x05e3(0x05e3), rev 0.33 port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered My primary hard drives are da0 and da1 (all the how-to's say that daX > should be where I mount.. but /dev only has my two primary drives: > > -su-2.05b# ls -la /dev/da* > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 16 Dec 20 20:11 /dev/da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 18 Dec 20 12:11 /dev/da0a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 19 Dec 20 20:11 /dev/da0b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 20 Dec 20 20:11 /dev/da0c > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 17 Dec 20 20:11 /dev/da1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 21 Dec 20 20:11 /dev/da1c > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 22 Dec 20 12:11 /dev/da1d > > -su-2.05b# dmesg|grep da.: > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 34732MB (71132959 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da1: 34732MB (71132959 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) > > I can plug this into my AMD64 running FreeBSD 6, and it comes up with no > problems. > > I THINK I'm probably missing something totally dumb... Anyone got any hel= p > for me on this? > > Yah.. I know.. get an i386 box with IDE drives. :) This is a small 1U > box, and fits in my closet well. so I'd like to use it if possible. > > Thanks!!! > Aaron > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:35:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B4016A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tylernt@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3169E43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:35:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tylernt@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1182125nzo for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aoBCeFHvb1AM8IvmBUi3EuMTUsak+QZ/AJBG1+UduM7Pz4JkLLaECL8TtZ8BdkeQ5C5EGtR7ZlV5BB1IlU0iI4IM12ansBN5oaijrnDRrdWpQq1pHwsSTFqhbya67B1eSgeiaAAOWowoe4z7+oWdUEDluXGbmlb2PpKuKBDLBpc= Received: by 10.36.121.4 with SMTP id t4mr5085082nzc; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.128.12 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:35:24 -0700 From: Tyler T To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: PicoBSD Dummynet/bridge errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tylernt@bigfoot.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:35:25 -0000 Hi, I just did a default installation of FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. I ran the PicoBSD script in an attempt to create a DummyNet floppy, but I got the following error: http://tinypic.com/kcmjnt.gif It says I have lots of undefined references such as gctl_getr_handle, gctl_ro_param, gctl_issue, and gctl_free. I tried it again and got pretty much the same thing: http://tinypic.com/kcmjq8.gif Also, if I try to use the menu to edit the kernel or crunch files, after I edit (whether I change anything or not) and exit vi I get: http://tinypic.com/kcmjic.gif Says "rm: /tmp/reply.[UID]: No such file or directory" and dumps me out of the menu system. I've used Linux quite a bit but this is my first time with FreeBSD. Like I said, I just did a default installation of FreeBSD 6.0. Is there something special I have to do when installing FreeBSD to get the PicoBSD/DummyNet script to work, or are these bugs? I am logged in as root. Alternatively, if someone has a premade DummyNet floppy image with the 'fxp' Intel PCI NIC drivers built into it, that's all I really need. The prebuilt DummyNet images I've found online are all very old and don't recognize my Intel PCI NICs. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:48:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C84416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: from mx1.duracom.net (mx1.duracom.net [65.66.8.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F743D67 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:48:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: from simplynet.net (mail.simplynet.net [65.66.8.104]) by mx1.duracom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B1F57C4 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:15:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] [67.66.254.141] by simplynet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AE73D5770080; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:05:23 -0600 Message-ID: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:05:03 -0600 From: Rick McCombs User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Declude-Sender: rick.mccombs@gmail.com [67.66.254.141] X-Declude-Spoolname: DEE73D577008045C8.SMD Cc: Subject: How do I subscribe to this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:48:14 -0000 How do I subscribe to this list? I could not find on the web how to subcribe. I tried majordomo and apparently there is no majordomo. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:56:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D070E16A422 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from mail.alkar.net (mail.alkar.net [195.248.191.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5CA43D4C for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:56:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from [213.227.193.75] (HELO [192.168.0.178]) by mail.alkar.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.9) with ESMTP id 426200204; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:56:17 +0200 Message-ID: <43CC16AF.70304@oxygen.az> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:57:03 +0000 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick hoogendijk References: <20060115092021.GA14248@lothlorien.nagual.st> <20060116181231.8e298e39.dick@nagual.st> <20060116190028.GA81259@arwen.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20060116190028.GA81259@arwen.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: webcam usb device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:56:22 -0000 dick hoogendijk wrote: >On 16 Jan Andrew P. wrote: > > >>On 1/16/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: >> >> >>>I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something >>>relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create >>>a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should >>>have made one if needed.. >>> >>>I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be >>>too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than >>>that it can not be used. Who has some pointers? >>> >>> >>> >>As a matter of fact google comes up with a few useful links: >>http://www.google.com/search?q=webcam+freebsd >> >> > >Sure, but they all relate to some kind of live cam broadcasting. That's >not what I'm looking for. I just wonder WHY the cam is detected at boot >time and cannot be found i.e. by kopete. If it exists it should be found >somewhere shouldn't it? > > > Sorry, i didn't follow the discussion... could you please post your dmesg line related to your web-camera ? There are plenty of user-land programs working well with generic usb driver: /dev/ugen.Did you already try them ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:59:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815B16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9303043D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id k0GJxXUr024106; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:59:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:59:33 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Aaron Burruss Message-ID: <20060116195933.GC10326@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1f1368120601131607n643aeb2cx7ab781dd9a9c76ae@mail.gmail.com> <1f1368120601161053y5d23eb31hc66b37f43ba52d8b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1f1368120601161053y5d23eb31hc66b37f43ba52d8b@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB drive on Sun HW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:35 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 16), Aaron Burruss said: > Anyone have any ideas here? > > On 1/13/06, Aaron Burruss wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > I'm looking for some help on a problem I'm having with a new setup I've > > got... I'm running sparc64 6.0 and also have an external USB drive > > enclosure with a 250GB IDE drive in it. The drive is formatted as a BSD > > partition (formatting done on another box). > > > > I've got the following in my kernel: > > > > # USB support > > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > > device usb # USB Bus (required) > > device ugen # Generic > > device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da > > > > I.m seeing this in dmesg: > > > > > > root@sun# dmesg |grep -i umass > > umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT > > root@sun# dmesg|grep -i usb > > ohci0: mem 0xe2000000-0xe2007fff at device > > 12.3 on pci1 > > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > > usb0: on ohci0 > > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > > ohci1: mem 0xe5000000-0xe5007fff at device 5.3on pci1 > > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > > usb1: on ohci1 > > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > > umass0: vendor 0x05e3 USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 > > usbdevs shows: > > root@sun# usbdevs -v > Controller /dev/usb1: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, OHCI root hub(0x0000), (0x108e)(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: full speed, self powered, config 1, product 0x0702(0x0702), vendor 0x05e3(0x05e3), rev 0.33 > port 2 powered > port 3 powered > port 4 powered There's already a quirk entry for that vendor/product combo so someone has gotten it working.. Maybe a bug in the ohci driver when talking to Sun PCIO-2 hardware? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 19:59:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE7916A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E358E43D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id k0GJxaMK032510; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:59:36 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 448A311717; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:59:36 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:59:36 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Rick McCombs Message-ID: <20060116195936.GA2840@flame.pc> References: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I subscribe to this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:59:43 -0000 On 2006-01-16 13:05, Rick McCombs wrote: > > How do I subscribe to this list? > I could not find on the web how to subcribe. > I tried majordomo and apparently there is no majordomo. The list is now managed by mailman. See: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 20:00:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C206416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F2E43D49 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:00:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F96998105; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:00:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 79499-04-2; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:00:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.98.231.227] (catv-5062e7e3.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7AB99809F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:00:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CBFB51.5040501@t-hosting.hu> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:00:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick McCombs References: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I subscribe to this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:00:35 -0000 Rick McCombs wrote: > > How do I subscribe to this list? > I could not find on the web how to subcribe. > I tried majordomo and apparently there is no majordomo. > Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo and choose the list You want to subscribe. Fill in the form, and follow the insructions. Regards, Gabor Kovesdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 20:05:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0B616A420 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (9.67-18-64.networks.msdihosting.net [64.18.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A65443D75 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:05:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from ian.msdi.ca ([24.201.183.241]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with SMTP id CLI20599 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:06:10 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116150413.0752ef80@Msdi.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:05:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Ian Lord In-Reply-To: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> References: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-DEBUG: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: How do I subscribe to this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:05:39 -0000 Check out http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html More specifically: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions At 14:05 2006-01-16, Rick McCombs wrote: >How do I subscribe to this list? >I could not find on the web how to subcribe. >I tried majordomo and apparently there is no majordomo. > >Thanks > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 20:19:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3346616A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A10043D78 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:19:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Jan 2006 20:19:07 -0000 Received: from pD952CB20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.203.32] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 21:19:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Rick McCombs In-Reply-To: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> References: <43CBEE5F.9030102@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-NABEw8+RPJ1QOWGlqk6h" Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:19:06 +0100 Message-Id: <1137442746.593.1.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I subscribe to this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:19:23 -0000 --=-NABEw8+RPJ1QOWGlqk6h Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:05 -0600, Rick McCombs wrote: > How do I subscribe to this list? > I could not find on the web how to subcribe. > I tried majordomo and apparently there is no majordomo. >=20 > Thanks http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#E= RESOURCES-MAIL --=20 GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --=-NABEw8+RPJ1QOWGlqk6h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDy/+68P3NNypXNWURAvamAKChZJ/2vqHy4EJSlGy7OzicLE182gCfQspz b60YrcQCI/zHwwZRihYz+/Q= =GV6G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NABEw8+RPJ1QOWGlqk6h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 20:47:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43BA16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E1443D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:47:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so11241uge for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:46:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Um7bpkJpaNRNHkIScsSz2nCpK8rrg2oLXlv8U0GFTMJIEe0fZ5ioDHJc1p/l7x1qdqM0xPKR/6iAfQslndMgldRf6Vj8AcGdn+cnOorR2ylkiqfjAxAXbR/GJu0+UcqJPMAe/o9jewPjUY/s/gmlWz5Ry8GCBm9tNJ8Wtv0CktQ= Received: by 10.66.219.19 with SMTP id r19mr3121714ugg; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.240.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:46:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ccc155e0601161246o475b7fbcw865f4e911269ed66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:46:43 -0600 From: Rick McCombs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: (FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:47:06 -0000 Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to work with the Generic kernel in 6.0 release? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 20:50:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA56A16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: from mail.informs.com (mail.informs.com [216.248.165.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EA243D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: (qmail 30771 invoked by uid 1011); 16 Jan 2006 14:50:17 -0600 Received: from 216.248.165.3 by mail.informs.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1197. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(216.248.165.3):. Processed in 0.031363 secs); 16 Jan 2006 20:50:17 -0000 X-Antivirus-INFORMS-Mail-From: jking@informs.com via mail.informs.com X-Antivirus-INFORMS: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(216.248.165.3):. Processed in 0.031363 secs Process 30766) Received: from unknown (HELO ?216.248.165.3?) (216.248.165.3) by mail.informs.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 14:50:17 -0600 From: Jason King To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:50:16 -0600 Message-Id: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:50:19 -0000 My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday like they use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped these files from rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what could have caused two different machines to have the same thing happen to them. The entry in my newsyslog.conf file is correct. There is no reason these files shouldn't be rotating daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what to look for? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 21:26:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BBD16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from mail.ferrarishields.com (mail.ferrarishields.com [216.82.146.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF7A43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from dan (dan [10.70.153.5]) by mail.ferrarishields.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A2F9E7301A; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <030201c61ae3$9604c070$0599460a@dan> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Jason King" , References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:27:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Cc: Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:26:40 -0000 > My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday like they > use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped these files from > rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what could have caused two > different machines to have the same thing happen to them. The entry in > my newsyslog.conf file is correct. There is no reason these files > shouldn't be rotating daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what > to look for? Only thing I can think of is to check /etc/newsyslog.conf and make sure the lines /var/log/daily.log 640 7 * @T00 JN /var/log/maillog 640 7 * @T00 JC are still there. ~Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 21:39:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD65316A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Received: from web50103.mail.yahoo.com (web50103.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EBBE43D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77742 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2006 21:39:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=srfgCRs7uZP8haBZ0w5fhh4uV40PHTx/pJW+xY2ft52GgUsSrE9ToXTvi19CuUevtPZ7TuPDtLUAuaBdTvrAZ9jIW6NgJVbcxoqk+kc4vfVjATf7rh+pfYyRX27VVKZ+xI+lmwvcLVdo7gsDVf/tu0IM1T2DTxa5FKV05T+Rm0I= ; Message-ID: <20060116213907.77740.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.116.214.49] by web50103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:39:07 CST Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:39:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Jorge Mario G. Mazo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:09 -0000 hi there some months ago I saw a FreeBSD advocacy PDF, it was really nice and small I've been looking for it since I'm going to CON and I'll to have it in our booth... if anybody knows what I'm talking about please let me know. Thanks __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 21:43:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0592816A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485C643D49 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.5/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0GLhhae067979 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:43 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (grobner2.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.119]) by riemann.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.10/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0GLhfAs073902 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0GLhfWB007093 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:41 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0GLhfwb007092 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:41 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060116214341.GO3217@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.54 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:43:43 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 43CC138F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Subject: NFSV4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:46 -0000 Hi all. Anyone known the quality of mount_nfs4 ? And where can I find a nfsv4 server ? Of course I prefer on my FreeBSD box ;-)) Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Mon Jan 16 22:42:07 CET 2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 21:48:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2691416A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB4C43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 24424 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jan 2006 21:48:14 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 21:48:14 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id BC7DC679B; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:48:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:48:12 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jason King Message-ID: <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:48:15 -0000 On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:50:16PM -0600, Jason King wrote: > My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday like they > use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped these files from > rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what could have caused two > different machines to have the same thing happen to them. The entry in > my newsyslog.conf file is correct. There is no reason these files > shouldn't be rotating daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what > to look for? Try running newsyslog manually. If that works then its supposed to be run every hour on the hour out of /etc/crontab. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 22:38:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C25716A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:38:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027EC43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:38:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GMc2BZ011910; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:38:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11092-05-3; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:38:02 +1100 (EST) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GMbLic011872; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:37:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5, 0, 3, 78) id ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:37:21 +1100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:37:20 +1100 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F10BB28F@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? Thread-Index: AcYa5YWdIhXHI72SQkO5l51mT0wcTwAB66hw From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Jorge Mario G. Mazo" , Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:38:11 -0000 try this site - you may find what you are looking for http://www.koetze.net/index.php?option=3Dcontent&task=3Dview&id=3D49 (Google: FreeBSD advocacy PDF ) "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes= =20a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.= " --Albert Einstein=20 Murray Taylor Bytecraft Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Jorge Mario G. Mazo > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:39 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? >=20 > hi there > some months ago I saw a FreeBSD advocacy PDF, it was > really nice and small > I've been looking for it since I'm going to CON and > I'll to have it in our booth... if anybody knows what > I'm talking about please let me know. >=20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Correo Yahoo! > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam =A1gratis!=20 > Reg=EDstrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 22:53:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0EC16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628BD43D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0GMq1HV054885; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:52:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43CC2387.4060102@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:51:51 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick McCombs References: <4ccc155e0601161246o475b7fbcw865f4e911269ed66@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ccc155e0601161246o475b7fbcw865f4e911269ed66@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:53:11 -0000 Rick McCombs wrote: >Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to >work with the Generic >kernel in 6.0 release? > > Yes, it should Just Work; or, at least it has for me all through 5.X.... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 23:09:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F5D16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:09:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285C443D46 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:09:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GN9c3h013139; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:09:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13015-01; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:09:38 +1100 (EST) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0GN8I6D013080; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:08:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5, 0, 3, 78) id ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:08:18 +1100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:08:17 +1100 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F10BB297@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? Thread-Index: AcYa5YWdIhXHI72SQkO5l51mT0wcTwAB66hwAAEeeTA= From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Murray Taylor" , "Jorge Mario G. Mazo" , Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:09:42 -0000 http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf and here too Murray T=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Murray Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:37 AM > To: Jorge Mario G. Mazo; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? >=20 > try this site - you may find what you are looking for >=20 > http://www.koetze.net/index.php?option=3Dcontent&task=3Dview&id=3D49 >=20 > (Google: FreeBSD advocacy PDF ) >=20 > "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more=20 > complex... It takes a > touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the=20 > opposite direction." > --Albert Einstein=20 >=20 > Murray Taylor > Bytecraft Systems >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > > Jorge Mario G. Mazo > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:39 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: FreeBSD advocacy PDF? > >=20 > > hi there > > some months ago I saw a FreeBSD advocacy PDF, it was > > really nice and small > > I've been looking for it since I'm going to CON and > > I'll to have it in our booth... if anybody knows what > > I'm talking about please let me know. > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Correo Yahoo! > > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam =A1gratis!=20 > > Reg=EDstrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** > >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive > use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential > and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 23:48:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244CA16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from umagnum338@netscape.net) Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1F543D45 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:48:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from umagnum338@netscape.net) Received: from umagnum338@netscape.net by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id n.c7.12d2fb37 (22683) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.net (mow-d20.webmail.aol.com [205.188.139.161]) by air-in04.mx.aol.com (v108_r1_b1.2) with ESMTP id MAILININ44-589b43cc30c73a7; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:48:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:48:23 -0500 From: umagnum338@netscape.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <037978CB.5FA0AD90.10BB5878@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 216.255.214.75 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Need help getting OpenOffice to work on FreeBSD 6.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:48:36 -0000 I installed the package for OpenOffice 2.0 for FreeBSD 6.0 (which needed openssl-beta, which I installed). Now, when trying to run OpenOffice I get: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libuno_sal.so.3" not found, required by "javaldx" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libvcl680fi.so" not found, required by "soffice.bin" I put symlinks in /usr/local/lib to these files using their names (i.e. the symlinks are the same names as the files), the files were installed to: /usr/local/openoffice.org2.0.0/program So, I figured that ldconfig would take care of everything on the next bootup. Well, I'm still getting the same problem. I did ldconfig -r | grep . ldconfig knows about "libuno_sal.so.3" but not "libvcl680fi.so". I suspect it's because libvcl680fi.so doesn't follow the lib.so.[0-9] convention being looked for (as is spelled out in the man page). So, my question is simple. Can anyone help me get OpenOffice running? Thanks, Andy __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. 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Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 00:05:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7482816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxguru1968@yahoo.com) Received: from web60324.mail.yahoo.com (web60324.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4E743D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxguru1968@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28691 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2006 00:05:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lJ21U1oThRA9McpMy5rK4ECqwtHb5FMpI8R2o7l12VZb5pCdwYK87/cMOEZ91jnYyOGSkkv4l8myXVxUKhCYi+9+h9Jhj53hEMN0UWodTB4FCJ7QHOhE7zqyU6wb/SjsntprwLlobh2Tlo2eoEiCkXTH4OeqQKUkaAfx27YKD28= ; Message-ID: <20060117000519.28689.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.36.184.86] by web60324.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:05:19 PST Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:05:19 -0800 (PST) From: Linux Guru To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: mconfig html demo URL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:05:21 -0000 Would any freebsd guys be interested in the concept of an HTML interface for kernel configuration - the demo is below. It could be modified to config the freebsd kernel for building - the tarball below is a proof of concept program that is currently written for Linux: http://www.geocities.com/linuxguru1968/mconfig-0.20-01-05-05-demo.tgz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 00:24:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC93916A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:24:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694A443D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:24:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so966226wxc for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:24:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=s/P0z09kf/JNJeaUI+vxVGrlQ/aqLP+0/fNURKrih0A75oAJ/ZUHl6kJ0Fs+SJa5XY/gWOZBHOtynGG7TRWQQcQ0gyq3SV+TsTmzz7yn5PcQ9EBmi9S6/Gsz3nqjyYFNBSG3psOutZvb6ArtHJgaP51/lHAiKpq4qyL4AqfhJnY= Received: by 10.70.111.12 with SMTP id j12mr8422861wxc; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [24.193.224.187]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i39sm8499443wxd.2006.01.16.16.24.40; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:24:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:24:38 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117002438.GA18294@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> <20060116181113.GA94706@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060116181113.GA94706@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in> Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:24:42 -0000 Just so very recently, someone said: > | hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. > | DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when > | plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me I get that too with the 30GB iPod I just bought. I think there's an issue preventing new iPods from working with FreeBSD. I even formatted mine for windows since it's easier to read vfat rather than HFS. Still nothing. If you get your nano workin please let me know :) Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 00:37:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3D016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:37:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035ED43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k0H0bcKF014302; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:37:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:37:37 -0500 To: Jason King , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:37:43 -0000 At 2:50 PM -0600 1/16/06, Jason King wrote: >My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday >like they use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped >these files from rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what >could have caused two different machines to have the same >thing happen to them. The entry in my newsyslog.conf file is >correct. There is no reason these files shouldn't be rotating >daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what to look for? Check timestamps on the various files. perhaps some kind of timewarp happened. Check to make sure newsyslog is still being run from cron. (do you have other files which are rotating, but just those two are not rotating?) Run: newsyslog -vv and see if it tells you anything interesting. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 01:07:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2287616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:07:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5C443D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:07:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick.mccombs@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so80310uge for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:07:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tiEJHGScVy6Oiz73zIk9WMm0YYjADuxjVPax7y0A83fte95cX/JVI3W4jsZbm/fK6MtHFxQlntwLoqj5eTnHxZz+rc+7w2NMUECSGDuxlrgy7nFn+6Kp2pq46huGjRsVir+c3l1GUZoWBt51bGfdFb5Hyc9kPkttjGu7LcIGbhw= Received: by 10.66.239.7 with SMTP id m7mr3269517ugh; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.240.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:07:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ccc155e0601161707x35c7e24didf5de5b7b6541d37@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:07:41 -0600 From: Rick McCombs To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <43CC2387.4060102@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ccc155e0601161246o475b7fbcw865f4e911269ed66@mail.gmail.com> <43CC2387.4060102@daleco.biz> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release) Does nat that is build in to userland ppp work with the Generic Kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:07:57 -0000 Turns out it is working, but I'm having trouble with named. I guess I'll figure it out. On 1/16/06, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Rick McCombs wrote: > > >Should I be able to get the nat option in ppp to > >work with the Generic > >kernel in 6.0 release? > > > > > > Yes, it should Just Work; or, at least it > has for me all through 5.X.... > > Kevin Kinsey > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 01:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230E216A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 859D843D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 1619 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 01:35:44 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 01:35:44 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.11) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:35:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <50629.195.139.252.5.1137461744.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <20060117000519.28689.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060117000519.28689.qmail@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:35:44 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Linux Guru" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mconfig html demo URL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:13:56 -0000 Why the kernel config process is 50 times easier then linux's kernel i dont see the need for a html based kernel config i find it a waste of time but i don't know maybe other people would like it ? Programing wise would this be done as one big cgi program or how would it work ? > Would any freebsd guys be interested in the concept of > an HTML interface for kernel configuration - the demo > is > below. It could be modified to config the freebsd > kernel > for building - the tarball below is a proof of concept > program that is currently written for Linux: > > http://www.geocities.com/linuxguru1968/mconfig-0.20-01-05-05-demo.tgz > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 01:22:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E4816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD3CE43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:22:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 4242 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 01:44:29 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 01:44:29 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.11) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:44:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <51871.195.139.252.5.1137462269.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <037978CB.5FA0AD90.10BB5878@netscape.net> References: <037978CB.5FA0AD90.10BB5878@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:44:29 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: umagnum338@netscape.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help getting OpenOffice to work on FreeBSD 6.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:22:40 -0000 Try compiling it from scratch seems to me like you installed the wrong package doesnt matter what the name of the lib is as long as its in the path even though it takes hours try compiling it from source > I installed the package for OpenOffice 2.0 for FreeBSD 6.0 (which needed > openssl-beta, which I installed). Now, when trying to run OpenOffice I > get: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libuno_sal.so.3" not found, required > by "javaldx" > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libvcl680fi.so" not found, required > by "soffice.bin" > > I put symlinks in /usr/local/lib to these files using their names (i.e. > the symlinks are the same names as the files), the files were installed > to: > > /usr/local/openoffice.org2.0.0/program > > So, I figured that ldconfig would take care of everything on the next > bootup. Well, I'm still getting the same problem. I did ldconfig -r | > grep . ldconfig knows about "libuno_sal.so.3" but not > "libvcl680fi.so". I suspect it's because libvcl680fi.so doesn't follow > the lib.so.[0-9] convention being looked for (as is spelled out > in the man page). > > So, my question is simple. Can anyone help me get OpenOffice running? > > Thanks, > Andy > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 01:51:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD5016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:51:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FCA43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k0H1pYhn034216 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:51:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200601170151.k0H1pYhn034216@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:51:34 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Rescuing the Ethernet Interface after SCB Timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:51:35 -0000 One of our FreeBSD systems has begun randomly shutting down its Ethernet interface. After doing so, the box continues to try to run but prints the following errors in syslog: Jan 16 03:01:23 xx /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x70 0x0 0x50 0x400 Jan 16 03:01:24 xx /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0xf0 0x0 0x50 0x400 Jan 16 03:01:35 xx last message repeated 9 times Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: device timeout Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout If we reboot, the system may be okay for 4 months or 2 hours, who knows? I can write a shell script to look for any new messages like those shown above so determining that the failure has occurred is not difficult especially since the system is still running all be it without a network connection. Will bringing fxp0 down with ifconfig and then back up as in ifconfig fxp0 down sleep 5 ifconfig fxp0 up restore it to operation again? I am asking because the system is unreachable when fxp0 is down. If one was logged in to that system, is there anything we could do to rescue it besides a full reboot? I want to make it rescue itself if it can since these things always happen on holidays or weekends or at 03:00 in the morning. This system doesn't die that often, but it is often enough to take measures to prevent it from needing our laying on of hands at odd hours. Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:04:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0FA16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:04:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (9.67-18-64.networks.msdihosting.net [64.18.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C1743D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from ian.msdi.ca ([24.201.183.241]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with SMTP id CLI20599 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:05:24 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:04:37 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ian Lord Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-DEBUG: 1 Subject: Time Zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:04:51 -0000 What is the "prefered" time zone for a web server Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ? I am in eastern time zone so I need to deal with standard and daily saving time... Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:21:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CDE16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBB1543D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:21:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 10953 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 02:21:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@69.235.31.215 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 02:21:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: je killen Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:21:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: 80 pin SCSI hard drives. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:21:36 -0000 I've obtained two SCSI hard drives made by Maxtor that have 80 pin connectors and no power connector port. This isn't necessarily relevant to FreeBSD accept that i'm planning on using them in a FreeBSD installation. I'm only aware of 50 pin SCSI and 68 pin SCSI. I've tried to contact Maxtor to get advice on a PCI adapter and cables to use with these units but haven't gotten a reply. Can any one give me some info on how to set these drives up hardware wise? Or if they can be used, maybe I made a mistake getting them, but they are 18GB 15 k drives and were $75 apiece from Tiger Direct. two of them will give me 36 GB to use for a web server /usr and /var partitions. And i"ll use SATA drives for RAID back up. Thank you in advance. JK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:35:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA7116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D317E43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-91-227-82.san.res.rr.com [66.91.227.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0H2ZImT023239 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:35:19 -0800 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060116183241.02616b70@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:34:45 -0800 To: je killen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> References: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: 80 pin SCSI hard drives. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:35:20 -0000 At 06:21 PM 1/16/2006, je killen wrote: >I've obtained two SCSI hard drives made by Maxtor that have 80 pin >connectors and no power connector port. >This isn't necessarily relevant to FreeBSD accept that i'm planning >on using them in a FreeBSD installation. >I'm only aware of 50 pin SCSI and 68 pin SCSI. I've tried to contact >Maxtor to get advice on a PCI adapter >and cables to use with these units but haven't gotten a reply. >Can any one give me some info on how to set these drives up hardware wise? > Or if they can be used, maybe I made a mistake getting them, but > they are 18GB 15 k drives and were $75 apiece >from Tiger Direct. two of them will give me 36 GB to use for a web >server /usr and /var partitions. And i"ll use SATA >drives for RAID back up. You need an adapter to use those drives. Something like this: http://www.bixnet.com/sca80pinscsi.html If you look around a bit you can probably find some cheaper. The link above was from a quick search, but there are a lot of places that sell the adapters. -Glenn >Thank you in advance. >JK >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:37:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B275C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredofnl@tiscali.it) Received: from smtp6.libero.it (smtp6.libero.it [193.70.192.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3428343D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredofnl@tiscali.it) Received: from localhost (172.16.1.17) by smtp6.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 439D9193028D5C30 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:37:40 +0100 Received: from smtp3.libero.it ([172.16.1.53]) by localhost (asav12.libero.it [193.70.192.95]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27056-12 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:37:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from expertus.logosfera (ppp-112-93.28-151.libero.it [151.28.93.112]) by smtp3.libero.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357EDABE02 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:37:39 +0100 (MET) From: Alfredo Finelli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 03:37:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601170337.57112.alfredofnl@tiscali.it> X-Scanned: with antispam and antivirus automated system at libero.it Subject: Re: 80 pin SCSI hard drives. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:37:41 -0000 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03:21, je killen wrote: > I've obtained two SCSI hard drives made by Maxtor that have 80 pin > connectors and no power connector port. > This isn't necessarily relevant to FreeBSD accept that i'm planning on > using them in a FreeBSD installation. > I'm only aware of 50 pin SCSI and 68 pin SCSI. I've tried to contact > Maxtor to get advice on a PCI adapter > and cables to use with these units but haven't gotten a reply. > Can any one give me some info on how to set these drives up hardware > wise? Hi, I have 80 pin SCSI discs mounted in hot-swappable trays on a SCSI backplane which takes care also of powering them up and of SCSI termination. This is one way of using them. I also have the same drives in a different system connected to normal SCSI LVD cable using small adaptors which have an 80 pin receptacle on one side and a 68 pin SCSI connector plus 4 pin molex power connector on the other, as well as jumpers to define SCSI id. In this second case you have to provide the required termination of the SCSI bus (e.g. using the right terminated SCSI cable). alfredo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:39:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A7716A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (9.67-18-64.networks.msdihosting.net [64.18.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0D643D7C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from ian.msdi.ca ([24.201.183.241]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with SMTP id CLI20599 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:36 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116213404.07323078@Msdi.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:38:48 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ian Lord In-Reply-To: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> References: <5063f1f750386be6ff253bc614ac096f@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-DEBUG: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 80 pin SCSI hard drives. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:39:13 -0000 There are called sca or single connect if I'm not wrong... Most high end servers (sun, hps, ibm, compaq, etc used those) They are basically 68 pins drive (can be U80, U160 or U320) so you just need a regular se scsi adapter for them. The only difference is that the power is coming though the connector, scsi ids are also set by the backplane instead of jumpers at the back of the drive... If you don't plan to put them on a server that has those backplane, you can buy a converter from 68 pins to 80 like this one for example: http://cgi.ebay.com/INTERNAL-SCSI-3-SCA80-pin-to-SCSI-2-IDC50M_W0QQitemZ5853652732QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/SCA-adapter-80-pin-to-SCSI-I-II-III-68-or-50-Converter_W0QQitemZ8750421043QQcategoryZ11160QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/414-SCSI-Adapter-SCA-80-to-68-to-50-PIN-GIFT_W0QQitemZ8751171361QQcategoryZ167QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem There is a bunch on ebay, just seach for "sca 80" it may be hard to fit in your case, just make sure it fits :) At 21:21 2006-01-16, je killen wrote: >I've obtained two SCSI hard drives made by Maxtor that have 80 pin >connectors and no power connector port. >This isn't necessarily relevant to FreeBSD accept that i'm planning >on using them in a FreeBSD installation. >I'm only aware of 50 pin SCSI and 68 pin SCSI. I've tried to contact >Maxtor to get advice on a PCI adapter >and cables to use with these units but haven't gotten a reply. >Can any one give me some info on how to set these drives up hardware wise? > Or if they can be used, maybe I made a mistake getting them, but > they are 18GB 15 k drives and were $75 apiece >from Tiger Direct. two of them will give me 36 GB to use for a web >server /usr and /var partitions. And i"ll use SATA >drives for RAID back up. > >Thank you in advance. >JK >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:49:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F4016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdq@gilmer.org) Received: from gilmer.org (ftp.gilmer.org [69.46.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BE243D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:49:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdq@gilmer.org) Received: from gilmer.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gilmer.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0H2n3CT061779 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:49:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsdq@gilmer.org) Received: (from bsdq@localhost) by gilmer.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k0H2n23R061778 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:49:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsdq) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:49:02 -0500 (EST) From: BSD Questions user Message-Id: <200601170249.k0H2n23R061778@gilmer.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to build ntp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:49:07 -0000 Thanks everyone for the help. For the archive: I went to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpdate and edited ntpdate.c. I searched for 'host found' and changed the stderror to stdout. I then went to /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp and performed a make install clean. Problem solved; the new 'host found' messages now go to stdout, just like all the other messages, so I can dump them to /dev/null, but 'host not found' error messages still show up as mail to root. Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 02:53:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B129916A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4500943D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1334346wri for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:53:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HRjDrv/cOVfUVkk5FL2PzgpHbm9vbiLVE9Gla0l7fZapmfs5Ls98TwgbCKbzsMO1el3w9Q33uzEqxQKNsgQUAOrowdxWypWcTxvCrzJj5iwis8gS+3bK82Al9YxWYWDz9Yx99eBw9qS5j4lde7bZAjn6NhLBN2PPTI3Cn75eW4E= Received: by 10.65.205.8 with SMTP id h8mr3499745qbq; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.181.7 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:53:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:53:24 +0800 From: Daniel To: BSD Questions user In-Reply-To: <200601170249.k0H2n23R061778@gilmer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200601170249.k0H2n23R061778@gilmer.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to build ntp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:53:26 -0000 On 1/17/06, BSD Questions user wrote: > Thanks everyone for the help. For the archive: > I went to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpdate and edited ntpdate.c. I searched = for > 'host found' and changed the stderror to stdout. I then went to /usr/src= /usr.sbin/ntp and performed a make install clean. Problem solved; the new = 'host found' messages now go to stdout, just like all the other messages, s= o I can dump them to /dev/null, but 'host not found' error messages still s= how up as mail to root. > > Brad As cron generally uses /bin/sh as the shell (set near the top of /etc/crontab) you could have used /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org 2>/dev/null instead of /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org >/dev/null and I believe you could also extend it to 2>/dev/null > /dev/null From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 04:34:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A0516A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:34:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45B143D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:34:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8A662C857 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:08 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25043-02 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:07 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8312462C856 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:07 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD2AA3CB20; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:04 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A682739C02 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:04 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:34:04 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:34:09 -0000 As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and downloading them ... baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 04:40:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F90516A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990F843D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eyidd-0000bS-8k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:40:09 +0100 Received: from c-24-147-87-49.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.147.87.49]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:40:09 +0100 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-147-87-49.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:40:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: JD Arnold Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:39:59 -0500 Organization: Amazing Developments Lines: 23 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-147-87-49.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) Sender: news Subject: New FreeBSD 6.0 system advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:40:23 -0000 So, I'm building a replacement 6.0 system from the bare metal, moving over my 4.11 server data after I'm done. I've started from a minimal installation, and I'm looking for some input. 1] Apache - do I stay with 1.3 or move on up to the 2.x branch? 2] MySQL - do I stay with the 3.x (!), or move to the v4 or v5 branch? 3] What would be the best order to do the installation, or does it matter? * Apache * MySQL * mod_php5 I'm really just running it as a web server, with php & MySQL support and not much else. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 04:43:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993F716A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wbs@infowest.com) Received: from tozar.infowest.com (tozar.out.smtp.infowest.com [204.17.177.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500343D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wbs@infowest.com) Received: from marbella.infowest.com (marbella.client.smtp.infowest.com [204.17.177.60]) by tozar.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EF3245224 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (209-33-199-253-dsl.infowest.net [209.33.199.253]) by marbella.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9756EA11D4 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <43CC75FC.7020705@infowest.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:43:40 -0700 From: Lorin Lund User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X starts OK for root but fails for other user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:43:52 -0000 I get an error message about can't find 'fixed' font. The font is there. fonts.alias is there. It mentions 'fixed'. I don't see anything wrong with the permissions on the font files, font directories. The ownership is 'root' (if I recall correctly) What else should I look for? What else should I check. As root I can start gnome or the default .xinitrc. But as my usual user id I can't start either one. I tried to ask this question on xorg@freedesktop.org but that mail bounced. Apparently you have to join first but I didn't see how to do that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 05:25:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D3016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sumardi@citrag.co.id) Received: from asav1.indosat.net.id (mx10a.indosat.net.id [202.155.50.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A59B43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sumardi@citrag.co.id) Received: from sasser (219.83.22.184) by asav1.indosat.net.id (7.2.062.3) id 43C8889E000F4552 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:30:04 +0700 Message-ID: <003c01c602c8$5f4a2fd0$ea00a8c0@sasser> From: "sumardi" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need help for upgrading hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:25:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:11:42 +0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:25:16 -0000 Dear all, I have DELL PowerEdge 8450 Server that act as Mail-Server, using onboard = SCSI for HDD controller.Now i want to upgrade the Storage hardware to = RAID, using DELL PERC3/DC, also known as LSI Logic Elite 1600.=20 Can anybody tell me, how to do that without reinstalling?? in linux, = i've tried by Ghost(copy image) all the entire system, and reinstalling = GRUB + initrd to boot from the new RAID controller, and it really works = well.=20 But i still can't find the PERC3/DC driver for FreeBSD 4.11 and didn't = sure will this work. Please help me, how to do that. Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 05:32:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE68516A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:32:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carloscarnero@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AA143D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:32:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carloscarnero@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1099283nzo for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:32:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KCTGxjMkKdRD0ZxZ63CZYvV0M6GuwLslogFpj7PE73O1rxksA9utSKZrGnwthTSLxu6Z8k0jOkLuLxHhOmNFCSDx/C9B6e9gnSd2frErglegrulbfQDF+FLezg/sJQzXfH7TF/HCF2On0cfwvvLWnznCJCEAMR4XK1a01K+tVYk= Received: by 10.36.141.5 with SMTP id o5mr3133921nzd; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.251.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2cbf87d0601162132n50c67182w1e76f5535ce18398@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:32:01 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" To: Ian Lord In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time Zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:32:02 -0000 Hello, On 1/16/06, Ian Lord wrote: > What is the "prefered" time zone for a web server > > Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ? Both ;) Set the machine's clock to GMT (actually, UTC.) Then set the correct timezone for your location. Best regards, Carlos. -- grah windows just crashed again, unstable crap. Windows isn't unstable, it's just spontaneous. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 05:39:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF99416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC03E43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:39:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so1318004nzb for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ev+GgS3M9LV5lCadnSt5EQkuH+zMdBfnyIEquJGpSX5DYdp82sXM0fAZfvdpFaA4TB7NKRsKr0ar44we1jYgq1J97JLI5CbEtv+V42Cho+F199hhwfllg4r6dkryimSIW4p+iJ4QzSz2Ashqqw8JiXCgLjIhw5X3OQ3twK6cuXc= Received: by 10.65.194.17 with SMTP id w17mr3103364qbp; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.103.20 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89ce7f740601162139u3131f8dxffb07c1df8585c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:39:38 +0200 From: "Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:39:40 -0000 Hello, > baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? I am a newbie in freebsd with ambitions to become a master :) and up to now I have installed tons of software using freebsd ports collection and freebsd packages and I found them better than rpm. Anyway, FreeBSD can run rpm as well (if rpm is installed of course :) ). On 1/17/06, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to install > linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do as much as > possible as far as getting the dependencies and downloading them ... Well, when I installed my FreeBSD on my laptop, I was questioned whether I would like to run a Web Server and I answered yes, so I had apache2 installed. You can compile and install httpd from ports collection with the following command (as root): cd /usr/ports/apache20 make install clean Or you can install from a prebuilt binary package with the command pkg_add -r apache2. Regards Rambius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 05:46:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A4416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A061643D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:46:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D062C857; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:40 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33947-06; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70562C856; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 04C473CE39; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F8D39C02; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:39 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:46:38 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov" In-Reply-To: <89ce7f740601162139u3131f8dxffb07c1df8585c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060117014551.W28752@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> <89ce7f740601162139u3131f8dxffb07c1df8585c8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:46:41 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov wrote: > Hello, > >> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? > I am a newbie in freebsd with ambitions to become a master :) and up > to now I have installed tons of software using freebsd ports > collection and freebsd packages and I found them better than rpm. > Anyway, FreeBSD can run rpm as well (if rpm is installed of course :) > ). > > On 1/17/06, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to install >> linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do as much as >> possible as far as getting the dependencies and downloading them ... > Well, when I installed my FreeBSD on my laptop, I was questioned > whether I would like to run a Web Server and I answered yes, so I had > apache2 installed. > > You can compile and install httpd from ports collection with the > following command (as root): > cd /usr/ports/apache20 > make install clean > > Or you can install from a prebuilt binary package with the command > pkg_add -r apache2. You missed part of the question, but thanks for answering ... specifically, I'm tryin to install a linux apache2 binary, with all of the linux dependencies that go along with it :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 06:03:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EBA16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: from shell.dhp.com (shell.dhp.com [199.245.105.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB5E43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: by shell.dhp.com (Postfix, from userid 896) id 2CB6F312F9; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:03:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:03:07 -0500 (EST) From: user To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: how do I (non-interactively) change a users password in a script ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:03:08 -0000 /bin/sh script. Need to change a users password within the script based on a file of user/pass I am feeding the script. Easy. Except the passwd command does not seem to be able to take a password as an argument - I don't think that the passwd command can run non-interactively. So how is this done ? It looks like the adduser script does it non-interactively somehow ... but I don't see how. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 06:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C01A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A97943D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5431CECD; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alexis.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11526-02; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 3F97B12022D; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:12:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:12:59 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117061259.GB6193@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Subject: Re: how do I (non-interactively) change a users password in a script ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:13:01 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006, user wrote: > >/bin/sh script. > >Need to change a users password within the script based on a file of >user/pass I am feeding the script. See ``man pw'', in particular the ``-h fd'' option. .. >Except the passwd command does not seem to be able to take a password as >an argument - I don't think that the passwd command can run >non-interactively. You can also use expect which is designed for just this sort of thing. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``Ah, you know the type. They like to blame it all on the Jews or the Blacks, 'cause if they couldn't, they'd have to wake up to the fact that life's one big, scary, glorious, complex and ultimately unfathomable crapshoot -- and the only reason THEY can't seem to keep up is they're a bunch of misfits and losers.'' -- A analysis of Neo-Nazis, from "The Badger" comic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 06:17:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6C816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4D743D62 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0H6HgpD015315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:17:42 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0H6HcU7031560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: <43CC8C01.2020703@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:17:37 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: how do I (non-interactively) change a users password in a script ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:17:49 -0000 user wrote: > /bin/sh script. > > Need to change a users password within the script based on a file of > user/pass I am feeding the script. > > Easy. > > Except the passwd command does not seem to be able to take a password as > an argument - I don't think that the passwd command can run > non-interactively. > > So how is this done ? It looks like the adduser script does it > non-interactively somehow ... but I don't see how. > > Thanks. > Yes, you can do this: -h fd This option provides a special interface by which interac- tive scripts can set an account password using pw. Because the command line and environment are fundamentally insecure mechanisms by which programs can accept information, pw will only allow setting of account and group passwords via a file descriptor (usually a pipe between an interactive script and the program). sh, bash, ksh and perl all pos- sess mechanisms by which this can be done. Alternatively, pw will prompt for the user's password if -h 0 is given, nominating stdin as the file descriptor on which to read the password. Note that this password will be read only once and is intended for use by a script rather than for interactive use. If you wish to have new password confir- mation along the lines of passwd(1), this must be imple- mented as part of an interactive script that calls pw. If a value of `-' is given as the argument fd, then the password will be set to `*', rendering the account inacces- sible via password-based login. Read more in man 8 pw. I'm also sure that there are examples out there as well if you search on Google, etc. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 07:15:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9D616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from jengal.datamax.bg (jengal.datamax.bg [82.103.104.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA743D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from qlovarnika.bg.datamax (qlovarnika.bg.datamax [192.168.10.2]) by jengal.datamax.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id F3347B832 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:15:29 +0200 (EET) Received: (nullmailer pid 86607 invoked by uid 1002); Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:15:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:15:29 +0200 From: Vasil Dimov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117071529.GA86528@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Delivered-To: vd@jengal.datamax.bg Received: from mail.datamax.bg (mail.datamax.bg [82.103.104.130]) by jengal.datamax.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5381B857 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:32:40 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 9123 invoked by uid 7797); 3 Jan 2006 17:32:36 -0000 Delivered-To: vd@datamax.bg Received: (qmail 9116 invoked by uid 7798); 3 Jan 2006 17:32:36 -0000 Received: from vd@datamax.bg by mail.datamax.bg by uid 7797 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.81. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:0(82.103.104.21):SA:0(?/?):. Processed in 6.884334 secs); 03 Jan 2006 17:32:36 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.datamax.bg X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, BAYES_00, IMPRONONCABLE_2 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO jengal.datamax.bg) (82.103.104.21) by mail.datamax.bg with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 17:32:29 -0000 Received: from qlovarnika.bg.datamax (qlovarnika.bg.datamax [192.168.10.2]) by jengal.datamax.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id 53584B832; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:32:33 +0200 (EET) Received: (nullmailer pid 945 invoked by uid 1002); Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:32:33 -0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: how to force ucom driver to create /dev/cuaU? for some device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vd@datamax.bg List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:15:31 -0000 Hi all, I have a device (GPS) that connects to the PC via the USB interface and I have a software (comms/garmin-utils) that wishes to talk to the device. The problem is that the software expects a serial port device, not a USB one. The question is how can I make the ucom(4) create a cuaU? entry for my device? When I plug the device I get: ehci_pcd: change=0x20 uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=5 ehci after reset, status=0x00001801 ehci_disown: index=5 lowspeed=0 uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=1 ehci_pcd: change=0x20 uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=5 usbd_new_device bus=0xffffffff80ad7000 port=1 depth=1 speed=2 usbd_new_device: adding unit addr=2, rev=110, class=255, subclass=255, protocol=255, maxpacket=8, len=18, speed=2 usbd_new_device: new dev (addr 2), dev=0xffffff0000b06b00, parent=0xffffff0000aff400 usbd_probe_and_attach: trying device specific drivers usbd_probe_and_attach: no device specific driver found usbd_probe_and_attach: looping over 1 configurations usbd_set_config_index: status=0x0001, error=NORMAL_COMPLETION usbd_set_config_index: (addr 1) cno=2 attr=0xc0, selfpowered=1, power=0 usbd_set_config_index: set config 1 usbd_probe_and_attach: no interface drivers found ugen0: vendor 0x091e product 0x0003, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 usbd_set_config_index: free old config usbd_set_config_index: status=0x0001, error=NORMAL_COMPLETION usbd_set_config_index: (addr 1) cno=2 attr=0xc0, selfpowered=1, power=0 usbd_set_config_index: set config 1 This (ofcourse) does not work: # gardump -p /dev/ugen0 gardump: TIOCGETA: Invalid argument ucom is loaded: # kldstat -v |grep ucom 85 ucom -- Vasil Dimov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 07:17:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F1116A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregorynou@altern.org) Received: from esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (esemetz.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6C343D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregorynou@altern.org) Received: from smtp.metz.supelec.fr (smtp.metz.supelec.fr [193.48.224.205]) by esemetz.metz.supelec.fr (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id k0H7HnY01729 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:17:49 +0100 Received: from [193.48.225.2] (nou.rez-metz.supelec.fr [193.48.225.2]) by smtp.metz.supelec.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k0H784B04521; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: <43CC9A1C.5060707@altern.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:17:48 +0100 From: Gregory Nou User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:53 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to install > linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do as much as > possible as far as getting the dependencies and downloading them ... > > baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? > > thanks ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND UPGRADE OPTIONS. Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is a GUI for rpm. Cheers, -- Gregory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 08:35:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721AF16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAA943D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0H8ZviL032067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:35:57 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.23] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0H8ZgVY030467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:35:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <43CC9A1C.5060707@altern.org> References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> <43CC9A1C.5060707@altern.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:36:42 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:35:58 -0000 On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Gregory Nou wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to >> install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do >> as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and >> downloading them ... >> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? >> thanks ... >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// >> www.hub.org) >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy >> ICQ: 7615664 >> > look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND > UPGRADE OPTIONS. > Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed > me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is > a GUI for rpm. > > Cheers, > > -- > Gregory Actually yum's a means for updating that's meant to replace the Redhat Network Tool or whatever it was called back in RH9.0 and RHE, which comes as primarily a command line tool I thought. As far as I know is only available for Fedora-a product primarily made for desktop users made by Redhat. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 08:49:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E886816A427 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F383D43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 13124 invoked by uid 510); 17 Jan 2006 08:49:08 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-3.8/5.0):. Processed in 1.36348 secs); 17 Jan 2006 08:49:08 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: bsd@bathnetworks.com via lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-3.8/5.0):. Processed in 1.36348 secs Process 13117) Received: from mail.bathnetworks.com (HELO ?84.92.24.252?) (bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 08:49:06 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> <43CC9A1C.5060707@altern.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1137487746.12144.34.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:06 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:04 -0000 On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:36, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Gregory Nou wrote: > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to > >> install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do > >> as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and > >> downloading them ... > >> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? > >> thanks ... > >> ---- > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// > >> www.hub.org) > >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy > >> ICQ: 7615664 > >> > > look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND > > UPGRADE OPTIONS. > > Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed > > me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is > > a GUI for rpm. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Gregory > > Actually yum's a means for updating that's meant to replace the > Redhat Network Tool or whatever it was called back in RH9.0 and RHE, > which comes as primarily a command line tool I thought. As far as I > know is only available for Fedora-a product primarily made for > desktop users made by Redhat. > -Garrett To clear up a couple of points: YUM is a Redhat tool but is a command line one. It works on all Redhat derived systems not just Fedora. BTW Fedora is not made by Redhat but is sponsored by them - they use it as a test platform. What I don't understand why the OP is installing Linux Apachie2 from rpms when there is a perfectly good port for BSD which handles the dependencies and the different locations of files, scripts etc. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 10:07:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F2116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D25543D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117100705.SKAJ6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117100705.MSJN24348.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:05 +0000 Message-ID: <43CCC1C7.2060405@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:03 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Hernandez References: <43CA92D1.6060800@isonews2.com> <20060116181113.GA94706@ghar.dhoomketu.net.in> <20060117002438.GA18294@dementia.beyondnormal.net> In-Reply-To: <20060117002438.GA18294@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:08 -0000 >>| hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. >>| DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when >>| plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me > > > I get that too with the 30GB iPod I just bought. I think there's an issue > preventing new iPods from working with FreeBSD. I even formatted mine > for windows since it's easier to read vfat rather than HFS. Still nothing. > If you get your nano workin please let me know :) I'll ask my friend what he did to get his working, not sure which iPod he has exactly either, could well be a difference in the models or something like that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 10:37:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F13816A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evandro@blueone.com.br) Received: from mx2.tpa.com.br (mx2.tpa.com.br [200.203.183.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7122543D6D for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evandro@blueone.com.br) Received: from evandro (unknown [200.135.220.100]) by mx2.tpa.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CC07704D3 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:10:49 -0200 (BRST) From: "Evandro Sestrem" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:40:26 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus-TPA-Information: anti-virus X-AntiVirus-TPA: Mensagem limpa X-TPA-From: evandro@blueone.com.br Subject: Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:37:06 -0000 Hello, I'm trying compile a project using Lua 5.0 (www.lua.org) in FreePascal (2.0.2 [2005/11/17] for i386) in a FreeBSD 4.1. The Lua 5.0 is correctly installed. It compiles ok, but when it is linking I got these errors: /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sin': lmathlib.o(.text+0x52): undefined reference to 'sin' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_cos': lmathlib.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to 'cos' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_tan': lmathlib.o(.text+0xca): undefined reference to 'tan' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_asin': lmathlib.o(.text+0x106): undefined reference to 'asin' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_acos': lmathlib.o(.text+0x142): undefined reference to 'acos' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': lmathlib.o(.text+0x17e): undefined reference to 'atan' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': lmathlib.o(.text+0x1cb): undefined reference to 'atan2' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_ceil': lmathlib.o(.text+0x20a): undefined reference to 'ceil' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_floor': lmathlib.o(.text+0x246): undefined reference to 'floor' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_mod': lmathlib.o(.text+0x293): undefined reference to 'fmod' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sqrt': lmathlib.o(.text+0x2d2): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_pow': lmathlib.o(.text+0x31f): undefined reference to 'pow' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log': lmathlib.o(.text+0x35e): undefined reference to 'log' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log10': lmathlib.o(.text+0x39a): undefined reference to 'log10' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_exp': lmathlib.o(.text+0x3d6): undefined reference to 'exp' /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_random': lmathlib.o(.text+0x6e1): undefined reference to 'floor' lmathlib.o(.text+0x78d): undefined reference to 'floor' In what version of FreeBSD (or libc) these functions (sin, cos, tan, ...) were implemented? Thanks for any help. Evandro Sestrem -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/1/2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 10:39:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4462A16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFC43D6D for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117103919.TXGX6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:19 +0000 Received: from cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com ([82.25.112.91]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117103918.OTIR10196.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:18 +0000 From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh Organization: Non Gratum Anus Rodentum To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20060116200608.49C2A16A422@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20060116200608.49C2A16A422@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601171039.08803.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:30 -0000 On Monday 16 January 2006 20:06, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:01 +0100 > From: "Daniel A." > Subject: Re: FreeBSD > To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > <5ceb5d550601160530w2b210f8ar4349cf1e1407a6db@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > Congratulations on your success with PC-BSD. > > I think that the nature of the BSD license can also indirectly be > applied to the FreeBSD mailing lists: Anyone can play along. > We're not elitist snobs =) > > On 1/13/06, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > > Hey, I've spent the day using pc-bsd, and I quite like it ! Can I remain > > on the > > mailing list, or are people already forming hollow squares to drum me out > > ? > > > > Regards to all for the New Year, > > Deej Many thanks for all the replies to my posting. Just to let y'all know that after toying with PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD - both have their merits - I'm back home ! Hell, I even put Windoze on for a day or two - what a shambles ! So, off I go again, trying to write assembler programmes for BSD - as lonely an occupation as ever bit a sandwich! Whilst I'm here, may I pick your collective brains regarding firewalls. I'm using a stand-alone box with a cable broadband connection. This box is used only for internet connection, downloading etc. and email, and this is my current firewall configuration ( stolen from somewhere ! ): In my kernel: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 options IPSTEALTH options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN In rc.conf: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" firewall_type="/etc/firewall.rules" firewall_logging_enable="YES" log_in_vain="YES" tcp_drop_synfin="YES" icmp_drop_redirect="YES" My firewall.rules: add 00300 check-state add 00301 deny tcp from any to any in established add 00302 allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state add 00400 allow udp from any 53 to any in add 00402 allow udp from any to any out add 00500 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 add 00501 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 4 add 00502 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 8 add 00503 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 in add 00504 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 11 in As I know jack-all about Firewalls and all of my time is spent trying to learn unix assembly, I would appreciate comments on the above configuration from Those Who Know --- "on the shoulders of giants", and all that ! I'm sure that there are many out there who would appreciate comments on firewalls for stand-alone boxes - most of the info seems to be geared toward multi-processor, double-monitor, three-phase, jump-up-never-come-down, chrome-plated machines with high IQs ! Many thanks, as ever Deej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 11:42:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBED16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:42:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5756D43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345566E7D5; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 4D8E053861; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from LAubervilliers-151-13-68-7.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr (LAubervilliers-151-13-68-7.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.42.7]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117124235.zcqa9lenxkosss80@imp4.free.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:35 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: Jon Drews References: <8cb27cbf0601161221w4b643050j63775c666fd74da0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb27cbf0601161221w4b643050j63775c666fd74da0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up lpd on *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:42:35 -0000 Quoting Jon Drews : > On 1/16/06, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> >> First thank you for your reply (same thank to Lowell Gilbert). >> >> I tried to change the mode with lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0 but that is even >> worth because I have no more output at all! > > Yes - I was afraid to use things like that myself. > > >> >> I am a bit lost between all the confguration files now. CUPS, apsfilter and >> friends is too much in one day :) > > CUPS is a completely different print system than the native FreeBSD > lpd. apsfilter does not use *.ppd files. These *.ppd files are > required by your Canon printer. This is also the probable reason why > lptest would not print. > >> >> Can you tell me where to install an especially downloaded ppd file? > > To use lpd do the following. I have not set it up on FreeBSD yet so > this may not be entirely accurate. > > 1) Go to Linux Printing http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi > and see if your printer is supported. I think your Canon printer is > not well supported as I did not find a listing there. Here is the site > for Canon drivers: > ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/ > > However I did not see anything that may be of use to you. > > 2) You now have to pick a *ppd (Postscript Printer Definition) file > and a driver that will work with your Canon bubble jet. I don't know > what it would be for the Canon i865. I Googled for quite a while > trying to find a driver and *.ppd file for the i865 printer. > For my HP printer, the driver would be /usr/pkgsrc/print/hpijs (I > looked at the FreeBSD ports and their hpijs depends on CUPS, so I > don't know how to set up lpd on FreeBSD). > > 3) Create an /etc/printcap file that looks something like this: > > # $NetBSD: printcap,v 1.11 2002/07/01 23:10:19 hubertf Exp $ > # from: @(#)printcap 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/9/93 > > lp|HP3740|HP Local Printer :\ > :sh:lp=/dev/ulpt0:af=/usr/pkg/etc/HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd:\ > :if=/usr/pkg/bin/foomatic-rip:\ > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :mx#0:sh: > > You would replace HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd with a Canon ppd. > > 4) Add your full hostname to /etc/hosts.lpd. See HOSTS.LPD(5) in the > FreeBSD man pages. > > 5) I think you have to add lpd=YES in rc.conf, for FreeBSD. Look in > /etc/defaults/rc.conf to see what it should be. > > 6) Add the following directories to /var/spool/output/lpd: > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/lp > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/$PRINTER_NAME_THAT_IS_IN_PRINTCAP > > in my case this would be > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/HP3740 > > 7) Finally, as root, do: > > # lpc stop all > # lpc start all > > Then do: > > # lpc status all > > and you should see something like this: > lp: > queuing is enabled > printing is enabled > no entries > printer idle > > 8) Now try and print. Do something like this: > > # lpr /root/.profile > > and if all goes well you should get a printout. > If not then do: > > # lpq > > and see the job number of your print job. > > > >> Now my printer's led is flashing permanently, but nothing else happenned. >> >> I never thank that printing would be that much exciting and full of >> suspense :) >> > > It's a real pain. All I can say is that computer programs are made by > "the society for the preservation of artificial complexity". Anyway > here are some good references: > On the web: > > http://www.linuxprinting.org/lpd-doc.html > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO/ > > Books: > "Essential System Administration" by Aeleen Frisch, Chapter 13. > > "UNIX System Administration Handbook" by Evi Nemeth and others, Chapter 23 > > > -- > Kind regards, > Jonathan > Thank you very much Jon. I will follow the steps you gave me tonight and will give you a feedback. Hope it'll works. Thanks again, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 11:57:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEECC16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:57:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from host.idesigns.net (host.idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4423443D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:57:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (seymour-cuda1-69-173-83-136.albyny.adelphia.net [69.173.83.136]) by host.idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0HBvpWT005069 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:57:54 -0500 Message-ID: <43CCDBC0.8000800@schmittnet.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:57:52 -0500 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: syslog logging recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:57:55 -0000 I'm looking for a recommendation for capturing syslogs from my small network. Specifically, initially I'd like to capture the syslog from my Netgear router and store it on my FreeBSD machine. Later I'd add other machines on the network. I've seen msyslog in the ports, but there's virtually no information on it out there. I've also seen syslog-ng, which looks promising. I'd like to store the information in mySQL. I'd appreciate any recommendations and/or pointers to pages with setup examples. Thanks, Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 12:08:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18A916A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from offbyone@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp14.wanadoo.fr (smtp14.wanadoo.fr [193.252.23.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBB43D68 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from offbyone@xs4all.nl) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC8D47000107 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ADijon-151-1-120-248.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.51.154.248]) by mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 83BFD7000106 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:44 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060117120844539.83BFD7000106@mwinf1406.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43CCDBCB.90101@xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:58:03 +0100 From: offbyone User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060117) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43C78D52.60301@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: XFree86 on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:08:46 -0000 Andrew P. wrote: > On 1/13/06, offbyone wrote: >> 0.) How to change the underlying o.s. default expectation to XFree86 AND >> is this a good idea for the present and future of 5.x? > > Look at /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf > Nope, that is not it. Turns out the solution for this is a variable set in /etc/make.conf /usr/ports/UPDATING at 20040723 and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#WHICH-X point the way In the case of the problem system I was working on, X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xfree86-4 in /etc/make.conf solved it. - Jake From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 12:10:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFFB16A422 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:10:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AA143D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 20675 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 12:09:56 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 12:09:56 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A087C28423; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:09:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: vittorio References: <200601151620.34553.vdemart1@tin.it> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Jan 2006 07:09:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200601151620.34553.vdemart1@tin.it> Message-ID: <44hd83f430.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backing up an encrypted partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:10:00 -0000 vittorio writes: > From time to time I backup up my ad0s3a and ad0s3d partitions by means of dump > issuing a 'dump -a0f fileA /dev/ad0s3a' etc. > > Having just set up a gdbe encrypted partition /dev/ads0s3e which I mount with > > gbde attach /dev/ad0s3e -l /etc/gbde/ad0s3e > mount /dev/ad0s3e.bde /mydir/encrypt > > I wonder WHAT should I now dump when backing up: > > dump -a0f fileE /dev/ad0s3e > > OR > > dump -a0f fileE /dev/ad0s3e.bde > > ? I would expect it to be the latter. Take the easy approach; try it and see. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 12:17:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6910043D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 2917 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 12:17:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 12:17:51 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E66B028423; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:17:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: david References: <43CB9107.6090105@isonews2.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Jan 2006 07:17:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <43CB9107.6090105@isonews2.com> Message-ID: <44d5irf3pt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: compile with HFS+ support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:17:52 -0000 david writes: > how can i compile freebsd GENERIC kernel with HFS+ support?sorry for > stupid question.i am newbie in freebsd I don't think there is kernel support, but there are some ports (e.g., /usr/ports/emulators/hfsutils) that help you read HFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 12:42:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DE016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711C43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117124209.ZLAC6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com ([82.25.112.91]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117124209.QAYY19063.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:09 +0000 From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh Organization: Non Gratum Anus Rodentum To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:41:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601171241.59564.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> Subject: Deejs' Firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:11 -0000 P.S. I ought to have mentioned I'm DHCP. And,as a further aside to this - you see, I REALLY DO KNOW JACK-ALL - why is it considered bad form to turn off ones broadband connection ? I do it every day, no problems in re-connecting... I have, after my last posting I Mamma'd around a bit, noticed mention of 'leases' and the need for ones provider to re-lease ones connection. Investigation took me to /var/db/dhclient.leases.sis0. In this there is info, which I hesitate to reprint here :>}, repeated twice, culminating in these lines: < Loads of info here...............> renew 3 2006/1/18 01:27:21; rebind 3 2006/1/18 13:26:40; expire 3 2006/1/18 17:26:29; < Same info repeated here......> renew 3 2006/1/18 01:46:16; rebind 3 2006/1/18 13:31:25; expire 3 2006/1/18 17:26:28; EOF I take it from this that my connection will be been renewed at the given time/date, then rebind (???), and finally die, waiting for the next renewal I guess. Well, try as it might, it WON'T renew at 1.30am because it's ALWAYS turned off ! It is, however, USUALLY on at the other given times. So, stop-your-laughing and point my snout to the trough... Once again, waaay off-topic, Deej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:13:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD6216A43E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: from mail.informs.com (mail.informs.com [216.248.165.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1B143D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: (qmail 43055 invoked by uid 1011); 17 Jan 2006 07:13:50 -0600 Received: from 216.248.165.3 by mail.informs.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1197. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(216.248.165.3):. 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(216.248.165.3) by mail.informs.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 07:13:50 -0600 From: Jason King To: Dan O'Connor In-Reply-To: <030201c61ae3$9604c070$0599460a@dan> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <030201c61ae3$9604c070$0599460a@dan> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:13:48 -0600 Message-Id: <1137503628.10680.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:13:56 -0000 The only thing that was different was on my maillog line the end of the line had only J instead of JC. I'll add that and see if that makes any difference. Thanks, Jason On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:27 -0800, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday like they > > use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped these files from > > rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what could have caused two > > different machines to have the same thing happen to them. The entry in > > my newsyslog.conf file is correct. There is no reason these files > > shouldn't be rotating daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what > > to look for? > > Only thing I can think of is to check /etc/newsyslog.conf and make sure > the lines > > /var/log/daily.log 640 7 * @T00 JN > /var/log/maillog 640 7 * @T00 JC > > are still there. > > ~Dan > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:19:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB0216A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: from mail.informs.com (mail.informs.com [216.248.165.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C5A43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: (qmail 43634 invoked by uid 1011); 17 Jan 2006 07:19:35 -0600 Received: from 216.248.165.3 by mail.informs.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1197. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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(216.248.165.3) by mail.informs.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 07:19:35 -0600 From: Jason King To: JD Arnold In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:19:33 -0600 Message-Id: <1137503973.10680.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD 6.0 system advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:19:35 -0000 I would stay with the apache 1.3 branch because of some compatibility issues with the 2.0 branch. I would certainly move to at least the v4 branch of MySQL. I haven't tried any of my webapps with v5 yet because of some strange SQL errors I was getting while installing one of them with MySQL v5. It doesn't matter what order you install them in. Jason On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 23:39 -0500, JD Arnold wrote: > So, I'm building a replacement 6.0 system from the bare metal, moving > over my 4.11 server data after I'm done. I've started from a minimal > installation, and I'm looking for some input. > > 1] Apache - do I stay with 1.3 or move on up to the 2.x branch? > > 2] MySQL - do I stay with the 3.x (!), or move to the v4 or v5 branch? > > 3] What would be the best order to do the installation, or does it matter? > > * Apache > * MySQL > * mod_php5 > > I'm really just running it as a web server, with php & MySQL support and > not much else. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:23:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACE616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: from mail.informs.com (mail.informs.com [216.248.165.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB6143D5E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: (qmail 44056 invoked by uid 1011); 17 Jan 2006 07:23:27 -0600 Received: from 216.248.165.3 by mail.informs.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1197. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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(216.248.165.3) by mail.informs.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 07:23:27 -0600 From: Jason King To: Garance A Drosehn , David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:23:25 -0600 Message-Id: <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:23:30 -0000 Hmm, when I run newsyslog I get the following message: root@mail# newsyslog -vv newsyslog: malformed 'at' value: /var/log/clamd.log 640 3 * $T00 BJ /var/run/clamd.pid 1 Any ideas? On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 15:48 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 02:50:16PM -0600, Jason King wrote: > > My maillog and daillog files have stopped rotating everyday like they > > use to. I have 2 FBSD machines that have stopped these files from > > rotating as of Dec 15th. I have no idea what could have caused two > > different machines to have the same thing happen to them. The entry in > > my newsyslog.conf file is correct. There is no reason these files > > shouldn't be rotating daily like before. Anyone have any ideas on what > > to look for? > > Try running newsyslog manually. If that works then its supposed to be > run every hour on the hour out of /etc/crontab. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:25:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCC416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3A43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1261456wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:24:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=p4j2wvOvbRuoYxunogoKfx8p9bgJIPUuWtD+bDVahIdpfsk6TcQymheFtM5PtnzToARYS8Dcb4GPRYxBuRikmGi6vP9hZfA4DmdcM8aN4Wzjs47QEHvdYV6awoFZ2VMkksnLMGTiEwn+SRHwvoVxSvjypeun1BaQMcLERPJo85E= Received: by 10.65.205.7 with SMTP id h7mr3769209qbq; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:24:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:58 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: konsole font size and colour ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:25:00 -0000 hi all, how can i resize konsole' font size and change its colour to green ? the default size is so huge, and only a few lines can be seen on the screen= . help please, thanks in advance, regards, bye. [for debian i can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but dont know what to do for freebsd.] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:42:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8F16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC1543D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1058105wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:42:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sz7X1nkefOkMzelBbvZOmlhBg/1bsQ5uCv1e3zAb8S8l0Qsw0UV4RIohh3DJS8azZd5kMC0W9Ugd+xsNSMa55kC/zVD5UFmaYFio5bfn6NL8cNSg4rP/QJ4xLZ3xJ1GrASYXBr9ClxijjgEX75/0apGVwcWOpyHxDRGjJF4fI7I= Received: by 10.70.122.14 with SMTP id u14mr9232942wxc; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:42:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601170542u468073e6m@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:42:35 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1137503973.10680.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1137503973.10680.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Cc: Subject: Re: New FreeBSD 6.0 system advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:42:36 -0000 On 17/01/06, Jason King wrote: > I would stay with the apache 1.3 branch because of some compatibility > issues with the 2.0 branch. Compatibility with what? 2.2 is out now, 1.3 seems to be getting mainly security fixes. To the OP: you'll get a better answer if you say what apps you're planning to use. php5, mysql4 and apache2 play nicely together, and have for years now. I understand there were some issues with php and the worker MPM, since php is'nt thread safe, but nobody uses worker anyway. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 13:43:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6197516A423 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:43:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mail.dc-servers.com (mail.dc-servers.com [83.243.101.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4618C43D5A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: (qmail 1836 invoked by uid 399); 17 Jan 2006 13:48:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alfie.jigsawhq.com) (work@ashleymoran.me.uk@213.106.224.113) by mail.dc-servers.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 13:48:54 -0000 From: Ashley Moran Organization: Codeweavers Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:42:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601171342.08506.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Subject: I killed my Flash player 7 in Konqueror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:43:35 -0000 I've had Flash 7 running in Konqueror for months and months, and yesterday I started playing with libmap.conf to see if I could get it working in Firefox. (I didn't realise you need to patch the base system to do that.) Now Konqueror refuses to play Flash and I can't make it pickup the plugin. Obviously I have all the software I need installed, and I didn't play with any file locations, so logically it MUST be libmap.conf. I've attached my latest effort below, which is based on /usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD6 root@alfie# cat /etc/libmap.conf # Flash7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin7/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash7.so libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/flash7.so libz.so.1 libz.so.3 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 libstdc++.so.5 libm.so.6 libm.so.4 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash7.so I still have /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin7 in my Konqueror Netscape Plugins but it won't show up. I'd be very very grateful for any help because the company I support runs their whole business on a Flash 7 app so I'm a bit stuck without it Cheers Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 14:08:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6EA16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104B743D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30919 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 14:08:39 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 14:08:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2229128423; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:08:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20060116020929.Y42694@chylonia.3miasto.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Jan 2006 09:08:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20060116020929.Y42694@chylonia.3miasto.net> Message-ID: <44u0c3dk0q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: glebius@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cperciva@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw+antispoof breaks IPv6 link local X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:08:41 -0000 Wojciech Puchar writes: > can it be solved? > > with first rule in my firewall config i have > > flush > add 2 deny ip from any to any not antispoof > > > works fine - as long as no IPv6 link-local communication is needed - > route6d is an example. > > changing it to > > add 2 deny ip4 from any to any not antispoof > > > is using link-local addresses spoofing?! I don't have time to come up with a fix at the moment, but that does look like a bug to me. I'm not sure I can see any way around having special-case code in the ip_fw2 code for link-local addresses... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 14:24:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D5016A426 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@henriklidstrom.se) Received: from pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D991143D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@henriklidstrom.se) Received: from mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (83.250.79.110) by pne-smtpout4-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.070) id 43CBBB2900002A2F; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573A3C0DF; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgw.henriklidstrom.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19907-07; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70CB8E0; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from gw.telecomputing.se (gw.telecomputing.se [84.17.192.7]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:19 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117152419.3sjqe8jfkgcwgs4w@mailgw.henriklidstrom.se> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:19 +0100 From: Henrik =?iso-8859-1?b?TGlkc3Ry9m0=?= To: software@schmittnet.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) / FreeBSD-6.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at henriklidstrom.se Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syslog logging recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:34 -0000 > I'm looking for a recommendation for capturing syslogs from my small > network. >Specifically, initially I'd like to capture the syslog from > my Netgear router >and store it on my FreeBSD machine. Later I'd add > other machines on the >network. I've seen msyslog in the ports, but > there's virtually no information >on it out there. I've also seen > syslog-ng, which looks promising. I'd like to >store the information > in mySQL. I'd appreciate any recommendations and/or >pointers to > pages with setup examples. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" We went with syslog-ng for collecting logs, storing them on filesystem (Rotated monthly, saved for a year) and sending them to a mysql-server which phpsyslog-ng uses to display data for easy search / glances. Works really well. We use this version of phpsyslogng: http://deathstar.com/PhpSyslogNG/ and one of all guides is this one: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_PHP-Syslog-NG /Henrik ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 14 23:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA4616A41F for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam.clark@ngv.vic.gov.au) Received: from monet2.ngv.vic.gov.au (monet2.ngv.vic.gov.au [203.18.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E05443D48 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam.clark@ngv.vic.gov.au) Received: from monet2.ngv.vic.gov.au (monet2.ngv.vic.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.ngv.vic.gov.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A127A3400F for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:19:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from TITIAN.boh.ngv.local (titian.boh.ngv.local [172.16.22.25]) by monet2.ngv.vic.gov.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9245734004 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:19:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by TITIAN.boh.ngv.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:19:01 +1100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:19:00 +1100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Running scripts after ppp connection thread-index: AcYZYOWma0rkMoBHQuO99kx/cOttBQ== From: "Adam Clark" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2006 23:19:01.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[E754FFA0:01C61960] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1345-3.5.1048-14204.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--2.898000-8.000000-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Running scripts after ppp connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:05 -0000 Hey all, I was wondering if there was any way for ppp to run scripts after connections are built or torn down. =20 I have things like a dynamic dns updater script and a vpn script that needs to run once the external ip changes on me. =20 Thanks =20 =20 =20 Adam Clark Network Administrator National Gallery of Victoria PO Box 7259 Melbourne Vic 8004 Telephone: +61 3 8620 2369=20 Fax: +61 3 8620 2565 www.ngv.vic.gov.au Keep informed of the latest NGV exhibitions, special events and programs = at The Ian Potter Centre: NGV Australia and NGV International by = subscribing to NGV@RT, the NGV's free e-newsletter. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 02:48:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3535416A41F; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:48:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7942343D45; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAFA62C7E1; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92647-09; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F2D62C7E0; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:35 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0F733E60E; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:39 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB45C39C02; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:39 -0400 (AST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:48:39 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: <20060115224154.N28752@ganymede.hub.org> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:30:45 +0000 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Don Hinton Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:48:37 -0000 As of Nov 30th, 2005, the following URL: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm Shows, in fact, that Chinese is "the /de facto/ /lingua Terra/", sorry to say ... English is the /de facto/ /lingua Internet/ though ... Mandarin and Spanish are the top two languages ... Mandarin by a *very* large margin, Spanish by a close one ... On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 19:45:45 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: >>>> >>>> Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? >>> >>> I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. >>> At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a >>> choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions >>> is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the >>> latter. At >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ >>> there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should >>> really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. >>> Anybody feel like having a go? >> >> A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) >> has written this for a programming forum I frequent: >> >> " To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can >> only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ >> /lingua Terra/. > > Hmm. I don't want to justify the choice of language, just state it. > It's an interesting document, but I don't think it's what we want. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:46:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAEF16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7B743D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so1041346nzf for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GNL/c/IlJKgZk30wGPPcQzc+xka/eC+sitjurKqMQtcx8UbRZpw1lGf0Mcb1IEnLUZ+ytfLjYTXxYockVONz2p0LPv0dsrkJWF8SPCCOY0jE4xpLirs3TkoMwtiZ3GYqlzUDqaHBjucABZc4Hg8ynrgeAGgtnziaYeeT8Fc61qU= Received: by 10.36.67.12 with SMTP id p12mr5236994nza; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.20.67 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:46:24 +0300 From: "Andrew P." To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:32:54 +0000 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:30 -0000 On 1/16/06, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > > Hi Greg: > > > > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wr= ote: > > >>> vocativus wrote: > > >>>> Witam! > > >>> > > >>> [...] > > >>> http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > > >> > > >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. I= n > > >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > > >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. > > > > > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > > > > I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > > At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > > choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > > is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > > latter. At > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > > there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > > really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > > Anybody feel like having a go? > > I don't really mind someone posting a question in another language as > long as they realize that most of us will not be able to respond to it. > Often enough, I think, there are others out there who can handle that > language and they can respond. Hopefully they will not turn it is to > a long running exchange on list in some other language. > > Now, if someone posts a question in something besides English and then > begins to rant and flame people for not responding, then it is not > acceptable. But, just starting a question here in another language > is not so onerous. > > ////jerry Agreed. It's not that I don't see Greg's point, I just don't feel that a small percentage of foreign-language messages bring any harm to anyone. I think we'd be much better off if the proponents of such linguistical segregation devoted their time to eradicating real spam. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 07:29:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7C16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:29:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.rockstedt@avinova.se) Received: from mail1.avinova.se (mail1.avinova.se [62.209.165.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CE443D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:29:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.rockstedt@avinova.se) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.avinova.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7507C16026DCB for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail1.avinova.se ([10.220.252.100]) by localhost (mail1.avinova.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05353-04 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from W2K3EXCH01.sydit.inet (unknown [10.220.100.12]) by mail1.avinova.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960FB16026DC3 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:19 +0100 (CET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C61B37.BA99093B" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:29:18 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Admin for cvsup.se.freebsd.org Thread-Index: AcYbN7pRoTTl8fEwSKKE3Cs4lbdIpA== From: "Jan Rockstedt" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at avinova.se X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:34:04 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Admin for cvsup.se.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:29:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C61B37.BA99093B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! =20 How do i contact for question about the Swedish cvsup.se.freebsd.org? =20 Mvh Jan Rockstedt =20 =20 040 - 668 07 45=20 jan.rockstedt@avinova.se Avinova AB Sp=E5ngatan 37 B 211 53 Malm=F6 Tel 040-668 07 40 Fax 040-668 07 55 See you at Common Congress Stockholm 11-13 juni 2006!=20 Common Europe in partnership with Data3 and IBM www.data3.se=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C61B37.BA99093B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 14:34:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA28916A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9890E43D55 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:34:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k0HEYMiU011267; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k0HEYMh5011266; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200601171434.k0HEYMh5011266@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: mailing-lists@msdi.ca (Ian Lord) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:34:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time Zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:34:24 -0000 > > What is the "prefered" time zone for a web server > > Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ? > > I am in eastern time zone so I need to deal with standard and daily > saving time... We keep ours on local time. I think that is the way most do it. ////jerry > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 14:53:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB12F16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@henriklidstrom.se) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0B443D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@henriklidstrom.se) Received: from mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (83.250.79.110) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) id 43CCA6AA00027971; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADB5C0F1; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailgw.henriklidstrom.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19907-08; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.henriklidstrom.se [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C6EB8E0; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from gw.telecomputing.se (gw.telecomputing.se [84.17.192.7]) by mailgw.henriklidstrom.se (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:41 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117155341.jdxuo0wk60w8ckos@mailgw.henriklidstrom.se> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:41 +0100 From: Henrik =?iso-8859-1?b?TGlkc3Ry9m0=?= To: jan.rockstedt@avinova.se MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) / FreeBSD-6.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at henriklidstrom.se Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Admin for cvsup.se.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:53:51 -0000 > Hi! > > How do i contact for question about the Swedish cvsup.se.freebsd.org? > > Mvh > Jan Rockstedt > > According to dig the servername is queeg.ludd.ltu.se Try surfing to http://queeg.ludd.ltu.se/ and see if you find some contacts there. Otherwise you can probably get help at the Swedish BUS-userlist; see https://lists.stacken.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/bus /Henrik ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 14:57:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779C516A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C537943D6A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117145721.QOTC3466.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117145721.SNOR19063.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: <43CD05CF.5080709@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:19 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lord References: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time Zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:57:29 -0000 Ian Lord wrote: > What is the "prefered" time zone for a web server > > Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ? > > I am in eastern time zone so I need to deal with standard and daily > saving time... We are UK based but our server (and most of our customers) are US based, so we keep the US time (EST) as it makes more sense when emails are sent out and orders made etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:03:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5098416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5743D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1542737wri for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uUxc1AqyT6+N9N/qjjK3j42IIQlINxB+7QdcTJNAOI8j2EqMZQfm/vpHRAzUcfE0gcMtBWcyktsepg4EAfnevaMamnKkW1VpXgLAU8lX3E9KtVaqc+fQwmJkY9ivEbc1zjok4VVyMVsBXH78QkFU5xrNqx9fr59hcRTUB/yF9y0= Received: by 10.65.253.11 with SMTP id f11mr3351738qbs; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:03:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990601170703l6d4eca62j1b571ea7890f552a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:03:44 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:03:48 -0000 On 1/15/06, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > Hi Greg: > > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrot= e: > >>> vocativus wrote: > >>>> Witam! > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Cze=B6=E6 vocativus, > >>> > >>> Nie wiem w czym tkwi problem, ale spr=F3buj zapyta=E6 na polskim foru= m > >>> system=F3w BSD: > >>> =09http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > >> > >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. In > >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. Why? So other people who speak Polish cannot search the archives to discover that there is a Polish language BSD support forum that they can go to? Are you really so elitist that you believe people who speak other languages are not entitled to information? > > > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > > I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > latter. At I've been subscribed to this list for nine years, and for most of that time it was explicitly NOT an English-only list. It was stated policy, whenever anyone raised the issue, that postings in any language were welcome, with the caveat that you are far more likely to get help if you post in English. I don't understand why, for the past two years or so, there has been a campaign to convert this to an English-only list. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > Anybody feel like having a go? > What purpose would it serve? Would it do anything other than reduce communication among the BSD community? This is, after all, the email support address that is published with FreeBSD. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:07:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069AC16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:07:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay3.av-mx.com (relay3.av-mx.com [137.118.16.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAED43D7F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:06:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay3.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 147383389 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:06:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 3082 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 15:06:57 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 15:06:57 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43CD0810.40200@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:06:56 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vd@datamax.bg References: <20060117071529.GA86528@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> In-Reply-To: <20060117071529.GA86528@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to force ucom driver to create /dev/cuaU? for some device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:07:00 -0000 Vasil Dimov wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a device (GPS) that connects to the PC via the USB interface > and I have a software (comms/garmin-utils) that wishes to talk to the > device. > > The problem is that the software expects a serial port device, not a USB > one. > > The question is how can I make the ucom(4) create a cuaU? entry for my > device? > > When I plug the device I get: > > ehci_pcd: change=0x20 > uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=5 > ehci after reset, status=0x00001801 > ehci_disown: index=5 lowspeed=0 > uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=1 > ehci_pcd: change=0x20 > uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=5 > usbd_new_device bus=0xffffffff80ad7000 port=1 depth=1 speed=2 > usbd_new_device: adding unit addr=2, rev=110, class=255, subclass=255, protocol=255, maxpacket=8, len=18, speed=2 > usbd_new_device: new dev (addr 2), dev=0xffffff0000b06b00, parent=0xffffff0000aff400 > usbd_probe_and_attach: trying device specific drivers > usbd_probe_and_attach: no device specific driver found > usbd_probe_and_attach: looping over 1 configurations > usbd_set_config_index: status=0x0001, error=NORMAL_COMPLETION > usbd_set_config_index: (addr 1) cno=2 attr=0xc0, selfpowered=1, power=0 > usbd_set_config_index: set config 1 > usbd_probe_and_attach: no interface drivers found > ugen0: vendor 0x091e product 0x0003, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 > usbd_set_config_index: free old config > usbd_set_config_index: status=0x0001, error=NORMAL_COMPLETION > usbd_set_config_index: (addr 1) cno=2 attr=0xc0, selfpowered=1, power=0 > usbd_set_config_index: set config 1 > > This (ofcourse) does not work: > # gardump -p /dev/ugen0 > gardump: TIOCGETA: Invalid argument > > ucom is loaded: > # kldstat -v |grep ucom > 85 ucom > I don't suppose you tried symlinking ucom to ugen? If that works it's just a matter of setting up devfs.rules. HTH Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:09:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07DD16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:09:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807D243D64 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:09:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o37so1226963nzf for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:09:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NcqfNrro3XN8CfOOz5GH6nMRP/2d6k/PKscNQ1uziYXIPXoOVLMWVEiUsfCjMi+MvtrgOJOk0iLqP4aKLOxTtx0l200kp1QdzOHU8PByx5FOCO9iIOBNJu6j1+kYblbxC6BHDW9E3Edax0gzZjbxbSib7CswyIRS7UYss//6oPg= Received: by 10.65.253.11 with SMTP id f11mr3355553qbs; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:09:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990601170709g57b2e366u3c8d3ab6799e6c75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:09:42 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Cc: bobo1009@mailtest2.eng.ufl.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:09:51 -0000 On 1/15/06, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I don't really mind someone posting a question in another language as > long as they realize that most of us will not be able to respond to it. > Often enough, I think, there are others out there who can handle that > language and they can respond. Hopefully they will not turn it is to > a long running exchange on list in some other language. > Why do you care if they do? That's the part I don't understand. > Now, if someone posts a question in something besides English and then > begins to rant and flame people for not responding, then it is not > acceptable. But, just starting a question here in another language > is not so onerous. > On the contrary, I think the policy should be that if you are going to flame someone on this list, you MUST do it in a language other than English. That makes it easier to ignore. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:10:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D20616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ldrada@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC643D69 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ldrada@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j3so468000ugf for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:10:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g6QksxVcBzRLRm8d80aTo5CILRFgziPJJB0qp7Lpp8PVNWWhAS/M/dv/WiaIj6gCY91DHMh4EPk/9OfJUSrFljm6Wq/KtKwB7Qs4prqO+1Zl6Q6/QRt4t1t+Hk+nWogHGQShtsnIZOQGw7TamuMyOCMXQO+G1RqnbHv7YkBcblA= Received: by 10.49.91.4 with SMTP id t4mr338428nfl; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.30.3 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:10:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5ceb5d550601170710w1099ca4cy9abdf964566e0773@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:10:06 +0100 From: "Daniel A." To: JD Arnold In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD 6.0 system advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:10:19 -0000 Hi, When I built my server a few months ago, I was asking the same questions to myself. At first, I decided that I would go with Apache 1.3, MySQL 4, and PHP 5. They played along very nicely, absolutely no problems. Later, I was asked by one of my users if I would like to upgrade to MySQL 5. And so I did. I've run several web apps on my server since then (phpbb, smf, wordpress, phpmyadmin, etc), and it seems that all of these are either updated to support MySQL 5. I've never had any compatibility issues with that. So, my personal and biased suggestion would be Apache 1.3, MySQL 5 and PHP5= . On 1/17/06, JD Arnold wrote: > So, I'm building a replacement 6.0 system from the bare metal, moving > over my 4.11 server data after I'm done. I've started from a minimal > installation, and I'm looking for some input. > > 1] Apache - do I stay with 1.3 or move on up to the 2.x branch? > > 2] MySQL - do I stay with the 3.x (!), or move to the v4 or v5 branch? > > 3] What would be the best order to do the installation, or does it matter= ? > > * Apache > * MySQL > * mod_php5 > > I'm really just running it as a web server, with php & MySQL support and > not much else. > > -- > Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) > Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: > http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ > > UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:14:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C40016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay3.av-mx.com (relay3.av-mx.com [137.118.16.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A0143D70 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:14:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay3.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 147390492 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:14:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 25517 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 15:14:51 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:14:49 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: konsole font size and colour ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:14:53 -0000 Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > hi all, > how can i resize konsole' font size and change its colour to green ? > the default size is so huge, and only a few lines can be seen on the screen. > help please, > thanks in advance, > regards, > bye. > [for debian i can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but dont know what to do for > freebsd.] Not sure what your asking because Konsole (a KDE terminal emulator) and GRUB (a boot loader) have little in common. For Konsole, everything you need to change the size is under the "Settings" menu, specifically "font" and "size." To get it to stick, use "save as default". Preset colors schemes can be set via "schema" and can be customized via "configure konsole" I've never run into a GRUB option that allows you to change it's size. You'll still edit menu.lst, but it's located wherever you installed GRUB. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:16:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CAF16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:16:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDE2B43D77 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 13123 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jan 2006 15:13:01 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 15:13:01 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 703E4679B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:16:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:16:20 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jason King Message-ID: <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Garance A Drosehn Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:16:26 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:23:25AM -0600, Jason King wrote: > Hmm, when I run newsyslog I get the following message: > > root@mail# newsyslog -vv > newsyslog: malformed 'at' value: > /var/log/clamd.log 640 3 * $T00 > BJ /var/run/clamd.pid 1 > > > Any ideas? Use @T00 rather than $T00 -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF8D16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jechaiz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0618B43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:22:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jechaiz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so356695wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:22:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=A+MGeJfKD6X3aM9zuSdhoALmp3zI+l/xEvWXIak9yWM/B32GtZEMuaHfRxVhBdVmtQ0MEqx1WuyJHOUF8prNGX9gO5oCsljQfo1DT1LS+qScNP7VKBFPAg2qteOKL25OyZSqKKvJ4H2SxpqJPks98i+4+VE+UqqLjYQKXSygFC0= Received: by 10.54.132.10 with SMTP id f10mr10051767wrd; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.95.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:22:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c8c9de30601170722s4f0c8017kd681700b60ff5788@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:22:22 -0300 From: Javier Echaiz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Upgrading sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:22:24 -0000 I have a machine running FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release and I'd like to know how to update my sources to 6-stable. I know I should run cvsup but port 5999 tcp is being filtered and there is no socks proxy around. We also have CTM, but i think it is not for me... Can i get the sources of the stable version by FTP or HTTP using some tool similar to portsnap (I use it to get the snapshots of the ports tree). I could find ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.0-RELEASE/sr= c/ but there is nothing for 6-stable... Thx in advance, Javier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:23:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD7116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: from mail.informs.com (mail.informs.com [216.248.165.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAC343D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jking@informs.com) Received: (qmail 58282 invoked by uid 1011); 17 Jan 2006 09:23:31 -0600 Received: from 216.248.165.3 by mail.informs.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87.1/1197. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(216.248.165.3):. 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(216.248.165.3) by mail.informs.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 09:23:31 -0600 From: Jason King To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:23:31 -0600 Message-Id: <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Garance A Drosehn Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:23:35 -0000 It is already @T00. I don't know why it appears as a $ in the email. Just did a copy paste. Go figure on that one. Any other thoughts? On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:16 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:23:25AM -0600, Jason King wrote: > > Hmm, when I run newsyslog I get the following message: > > > > root@mail# newsyslog -vv > > newsyslog: malformed 'at' value: > > /var/log/clamd.log 640 3 * $T00 > > BJ /var/run/clamd.pid 1 > > > > > > Any ideas? > > Use @T00 rather than $T00 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:24:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0A716A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF143D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:23:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j3so473522ugf for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:23:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JcDIKT2jk5v4FhBHs/P1ypfGkoT54YU/3AqFzjDbZTtFL5xo/FxWGo2cf3AOlSvqzcc78WQzrT+IW4dUCBeLoOUMhHq+tbRi+SYaTey2KqD5gQTTG1lCDjD00dpMmFVeKynkzpeTNYNjPmMcBolZVsBfdsETA2OA/BJCx1E4neA= Received: by 10.66.223.2 with SMTP id v2mr2228782ugg; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.238.17 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:16:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <59adc1a0601170716u4ed49007y@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:21 +0100 From: Dimitar Vasilev To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: external audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:24:21 -0000 SGVsbG8hCkRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSBlaXRoZXIgd2l0aCBTb3VuZEJsYXN0 ZXIgMjRiaXQgZXh0ZXJuYWwgKHVzYiksClNvdW5kIEJsYXN0ZXIgQXVkaWd5IDJOWCwgNy4xIGV4 dGVybmFsIHVzYiAyLjAgb3IgU291bmRCbGFzdGVyIEF1ZGlneSAyIFpTCk5vdGVib29rIFBDTUNJ QSB1bmRlciBGcmVlQlNEIDYuMC0oU1RBQkxFKT8KQSBmcmllbmQgb2YgbWluZSBoYXMgYW4gYXVk aWd5IDIgYW5kIEknZCBsaWtlIHRvIGNvbXBhcmUgd2l0aCB5b3UgdG9vIGJlZm9yZQpJIG1ha2Ug dXAgbXkgbWluZCBmaW5hbGx5LgpUaGFua3MgaW4gYWR2YW5jZSEKCgogPGh0dHA6Ly9nbnQuc2hv cC5la2F0YWxvZy5iaXovemJvemlfZGV0YWlsLmFzcHg/emJvemk9MjQxNzA+Ci0tCrTY3Nji6uAg stDh2NvV0gpEaW1pdGFyIFZhc3NpbGV2CgpHbnVQRyBrZXkgSUQ6IDB4NEI4REI1MjUKS2V5c2Vy dmVyOiBwZ3AubWl0LmVkdQpLZXkgZmluZ2VycHJpbnQ6IEQ4OEEgM0I5MiBERUQ1IDkxN0UgMzQx RSBENjJGIDhDNTEgNUZDNCA0QjhEIEI1MjUK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:30:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D41F16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F138243D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id k0HFTjKW092196; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:29:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:29:45 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Evandro Sestrem Message-ID: <20060117152945.GD10326@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:30 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 17), Evandro Sestrem said: > I'm trying compile a project using Lua 5.0 (www.lua.org) in FreePascal > (2.0.2 [2005/11/17] for i386) in a FreeBSD 4.1. > > The Lua 5.0 is correctly installed. > > It compiles ok, but when it is linking I got these errors: > > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sin': lmathlib.o(.text+0x52): undefined reference to 'sin' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_cos': lmathlib.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to 'cos' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_tan': lmathlib.o(.text+0xca): undefined reference to 'tan' > > In what version of FreeBSD (or libc) these functions (sin, cos, tan, > ...) were implemented? Math functions are in libm. Add -lm to your link line. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:41:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2BE16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B07A743D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 24803 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jan 2006 15:41:33 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 15:41:33 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id C5244679B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:41:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:41:29 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jason King Message-ID: <20060117154129.GA20023@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:41:35 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:23:31AM -0600, Jason King wrote: > It is already @T00. I don't know why it appears as a $ in the email. > Just did a copy paste. Go figure on that one. Any other thoughts? Your error is "malformed at value" and when one does copy/paste the data appears differently than expected. Therefore there is something wrong with the way its typed, maybe high bit set on one or more characters. Suggest deleting the * up to the BJ and retype with care. Retry. > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:16 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:23:25AM -0600, Jason King wrote: > > > Hmm, when I run newsyslog I get the following message: > > > > > > root@mail# newsyslog -vv > > > newsyslog: malformed 'at' value: > > > /var/log/clamd.log 640 3 * $T00 > > > BJ /var/run/clamd.pid 1 > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Use @T00 rather than $T00 -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:44:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC31116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B67243D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 497 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jan 2006 15:44:41 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 15:44:41 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 96E1B679B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:44:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:44:38 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Jason King Message-ID: <20060117154438.GA20102@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060117154129.GA20023@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060117154129.GA20023@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:44:42 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:41:29AM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:23:31AM -0600, Jason King wrote: > > It is already @T00. I don't know why it appears as a $ in the email. > > Just did a copy paste. Go figure on that one. Any other thoughts? > > Your error is "malformed at value" and when one does copy/paste the data > appears differently than expected. Therefore there is something wrong > with the way its typed, maybe high bit set on one or more characters. > Suggest deleting the * up to the BJ and retype with care. Retry. For fun try "hexdump -C /etc/newsyslog.conf | more" to see exactly what is typed. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 15:49:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60AB16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 866D443D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48375 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2006 15:49:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jfvj83ePWgSmf7XLvmW+lsHtFgffXuyJs6e1+HZpmtO90+9wnoA9XKowWUu1xYFDp3SqplLm34Q47M+sVPVNZwlI2fWJStWvbAmV6ICFBcOduAR6UfDGqjS0+MkmTkJGO7Lr8xd1+h4Gk86uyqcVzLSYoA8NOsARiY2DbReitJA= ; Message-ID: <20060117154905.48373.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:49:05 PST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:49:05 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200601170151.k0H1pYhn034216@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Rescuing the Ethernet Interface after SCB Timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:49:06 -0000 --- Martin McCormick wrote: > One of our FreeBSD systems has begun randomly > shutting down > its Ethernet interface. After doing so, the > box continues to try to > run but prints the following errors in syslog: > > Jan 16 03:01:23 xx /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: > 0x70 0x0 0x50 0x400 > Jan 16 03:01:24 xx /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: > 0xf0 0x0 0x50 0x400 > Jan 16 03:01:35 xx last message repeated 9 > times > Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: device > timeout > Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout > Jan 16 03:01:40 xx /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout > > If we reboot, the system may be okay for 4 > months or 2 hours, > who knows? I can write a shell script to look > for any new messages > like those shown above so determining that the > failure has occurred is > not difficult especially since the system is > still running all be it > without a network connection. > > Will bringing fxp0 down with ifconfig and then > back up as in > > ifconfig fxp0 down > sleep 5 > ifconfig fxp0 up > > restore it to operation again? > > I am asking because the system is unreachable > when fxp0 is > down. If one was logged in to that system, is > there anything we could > do to rescue it besides a full reboot? > > I want to make it rescue itself if it can > since these things > always happen on holidays or weekends or at > 03:00 in the morning. > > This system doesn't die that often, but it is > often enough to > take measures to prevent it from needing our > laying on of hands at odd > hours. > > Thank you. > Such things are usually caused by a bus error; either the card or the bus may be slightly out of spec, or some other card may be interfering. You'll see such things, for example, when you put a PCI-X card on a 133Mhz bus, and then you change the bus to 100Mhz and it will never happen again. You might not be able to recover. If you can replace the card or try a different bus slot. If your bus is overloaded (ie multiple cards, too much trace length or too many loads) then removing one card may fix it. If you are using a non-intel card with an intel part on it I'd suggest trying a different card. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:15:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6062F16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:15:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFB743D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:15:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdunham@texas.net) Received: (qmail 1158 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 16:15:11 -0000 Received: from dsl093-216-153.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.101]) (ldunham@[66.93.216.153]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 16:15:11 -0000 From: "Jerry Dunham" To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43CCC3C8.32366.1D8376F7@jdunham.texas.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <54db43990601170709g57b2e366u3c8d3ab6799e6c75@mail.gmail.com> References: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.30 public beta 1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:15:12 -0000 On 17 Jan 2006 at 10:09, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 1/15/06, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > Now, if someone posts a question in something besides English and then > > begins to rant and flame people for not responding, then it is not > > acceptable. But, just starting a question here in another language > > is not so onerous. > > On the contrary, I think the policy should be that if you are going to > flame someone on this list, you MUST do it in a language other than > English. That makes it easier to ignore. Perhaps it could be required that flames be in Klingon. I doubt that there are too man Klingons on the list who would be offended by having their language be the official language of flames. Besides, it seems an appropriate language for flames by its nature, and the limited number of native speakers would certainly limit the number of flame messages. Now, as for enforcement.... -- Jerry Dunham jdunham@texas.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:16:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF0416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from highland.isltd.insignia.com (highland.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4941643D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from inchgower.internal.local (inchgower-e0.isltd.insignia.com [195.74.141.61]) by highland.isltd.insignia.com (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k0HGGAAl022685 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:10 GMT (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from exchange-uk.internal.local (exchange-uk [172.16.64.9]) by inchgower.internal.local (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0HGGAtt022632 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:10 GMT (envelope-from subscriber@insignia.com) Received: from dylan.internal.local ([172.16.64.69]) by exchange-uk.internal.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XFAHQLB7; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:10 -0000 From: Jim Hatfield To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:10 +0000 Organization: Insignia Solutions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 195.74.141.1 Subject: NIS client differences between FBSD5 and FBSD6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:16:15 -0000 Still trying to migrate our NIS from an old Sparc to a Services For Unix/Active Directory setup. AMD won't play so I'm using text files for that. Now to move forward to actually logging in.... A test machine running FreeBSD 6 seems to work OK, though "ypwhich -m" behaves strangely: >speyburn# uname -v >FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 17 12:42:17 GMT 2005 = root@speyburn.internal.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >speyburn# ypwhich -m >ypwhich: can't find the master of `: reason: No such map in server's = domain >speyburn# ypwhich -m ypservers >axiom >speyburn# id jhatfield >uid=3D115(jhatfield) gid=3D100(Domain Users) groups=3D100(Domain Users),= 0(wheel) But a production machine running FreeBSD 5 does not: >banff# uname -v >FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p16 #1: Wed Apr 7 15:14:39 BST 2004 = root@banff.isltd.insignia.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BANFF >banff# ypwhich -m >ypservers axiom >banff# id jhatfield >id: jhatfield: no such user The only change I made is to the nisdomainname line in /etc/rc.conf, followed by a reboot. All the ypxxx commmands seem to work OK, yet usernames can't be looked up. Why would this be? I really don't want to replace this machine with a FBSD6 machine just to fix this, though I will if I have to. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:20:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D92416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED3643D67 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:20:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13720 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 16:19:48 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2D75528425; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:19:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Adam Clark" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Jan 2006 11:19:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44zmlu968r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running scripts after ppp connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:20:36 -0000 "Adam Clark" writes: > I was wondering if there was any way for ppp to run scripts after > connections are built or torn down. According to "man ppp", that's what /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup is for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:22:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAE816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B462343DA1 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EytZo-0001b8-D1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:00 +0100 Received: from 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.44.12.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:20:56 +0100 Received: from matiassurdi by 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:20:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:17:21 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <43CA8534.4010306@daltons.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: KNode/0.10 Sender: news Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with X11 Forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:31 -0000 Aaron Dalton wrote: > I thought this might be the best place to post the question. I am > running FreeBSD5.4-RELEASE. For the sake of argument, let's say I am > trying to get the port editors/fte running on my Windows box via an SSH > tunnel. I am running WindowsXP, cygwin's X11 server, and PUTTY. As far > as I can tell from all my Googling, this should actually be quite simple: > > - openssh is setup on FreeBSD with X11Forwarding=yes > - I start the cygwin X-server (XWin -ac -multiwindow) > - Putty is configured to forward X11 sessions > - I connect via Putty > - running '$ fte' from the FreeBSD command line should supposedly open > everything up now on my Windows box, but it does not. > > From what I understand, when I connect now via Putty the env variable > DISPLAY should be set. But it is not (which is the error fte gives me > when I try to run it). If I try to manually set the DISPLAY variable (I > tried localhost:0, localhost:0.0, ip:0, ip:0.0) it still doesn't work. > editors/fte is fully installed (with X11libs and all that) but I wonder > if there is more I need installed on the FreeBSD end to make things work. > > I really appreciate your time and any assistance you can render. > Remember to run on the Cygwin console the command: # xhost + (Disclaimer: This is not secure for the Cygwin machine :-P ) So anyone can connect to your X11/Xorg Server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:27:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B1316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6043D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:27:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117162700.JXCV6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:27:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117162700.VFZQ10196.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:27:00 +0000 Message-ID: <43CD1AD2.2090005@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:26:58 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boot with ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:27:03 -0000 Hi, When I boot my laptop running 6.0-RELEASE I need to boot with ACPI as otherwise it crashes. Was wondering how to make booting with ACPI the default? To be honest I'm not bothered about the boot menu at all as I'm quite happy with the system booting without any interaction. Sometimes I need to reboot remotely which isn't possible at the moment. I've read a bit about loader.conf and have used it for various things, is it as easy as putting a line in there to get this working? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:28:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E0816A420; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A44443D6B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Eytgd-000Fxx-Ij; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:27:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060115224154.N28752@ganymede.hub.org> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060115224154.N28752@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <632E8B5F-E617-4051-8067-9C3E0F488178@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:27:58 -0700 To: Marc G. Fournier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:11 -0000 On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > As of Nov 30th, 2005, the following URL: > > http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm > > Shows, in fact, that Chinese is "the /de facto/ /lingua Terra/", > sorry to say All depends on how you define it. Almost anyone in the world, when traveling in the world and in a place where they don't speak the native language, will try English... Kind of defeats your statement in many ways Chad > ... English is the /de facto/ /lingua Internet/ though ... > > > > Mandarin and Spanish are the top two languages ... Mandarin by a > *very* large margin, Spanish by a close one ... > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 19:45:45 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>>> On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? >>>> >>>> I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. >>>> At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a >>>> choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". - >>>> questions >>>> is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the >>>> latter. At >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd- >>>> questions/ >>>> there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we >>>> should >>>> really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. >>>> Anybody feel like having a go? >>> >>> A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) >>> has written this for a programming forum I frequent: >>> >>> " To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can >>> only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ >>> /lingua Terra/. >> >> Hmm. I don't want to justify the choice of language, just state it. >> It's an interesting document, but I don't think it's what we want. >> >> Greg >> -- >> See complete headers for address and phone numbers. >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// > www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: > 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:28:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE5816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F8343D5C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 76730 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 16:50:16 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 16:50:16 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:50:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <58710.195.139.252.5.1137516616.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <1c8c9de30601170722s4f0c8017kd681700b60ff5788@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c8c9de30601170722s4f0c8017kd681700b60ff5788@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:50:16 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Javier Echaiz" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:28:19 -0000 Can always use cvs ? > I have a machine running FreeBSD i386 6.0 Release and I'd like to know > how to update my sources to 6-stable. I know I should run cvsup but > port 5999 tcp is being filtered and there is no socks proxy around. We > also have CTM, but i think it is not for me... > Can i get the sources of the stable version by FTP or HTTP using some > tool similar to portsnap (I use it to get the snapshots of the ports > tree). > I could find > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.0-RELEASE/src/ > but there is nothing for 6-stable... > > Thx in advance, > Javier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD4716A41F; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:33:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EC443D46; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:33:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0HGX932047851; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k0HGX8K8047850; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:33:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20060117163307.GB47717@thought.org> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <43C94AAA.9070009@orchid.homeunix.org> <20060115222845.GV73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601151649.31803.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <43CAFAC9.8080401@daleco.biz> <20060116022901.GN73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060115224154.N28752@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060115224154.N28752@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19+ years of service to the Unix community X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:50:16 +0000 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Don Hinton Subject: Re: English only, please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:33:16 -0000 On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 10:48:39PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > As of Nov 30th, 2005, the following URL: > > http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm > > Shows, in fact, that Chinese is "the /de facto/ /lingua Terra/", sorry to > say ... English is the /de facto/ /lingua Internet/ though ... > > > > Mandarin and Spanish are the top two languages ... Mandarin by a *very* > large margin, Spanish by a close one ... As I understand it, in Mongolia, English is rapidly becoming an Official language. [[ Now there's a place to invest.]] (Personally, I'm **still** trying to learn French....) gary > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > >On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 19:45:45 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >>Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>>On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > >>> > >>>I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > >>>At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > >>>choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > >>>is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > >>>latter. At > >>>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > >>>there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > >>>really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > >>>Anybody feel like having a go? > >> > >>A "virtual friend" of mine (Kiwi, but don't really know his name) > >>has written this for a programming forum I frequent: > >> > >>" To those people for whom English is a foreign language, I can > >>only offer this: English is - for better or worse - the /de facto/ > >>/lingua Terra/. > > > >Hmm. I don't want to justify the choice of language, just state it. > >It's an interesting document, but I don't think it's what we want. > > > >Greg > >-- > >See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 16:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C04116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:54:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7F343D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0HGsiMe053843 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:54:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0HGsi7S053840 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:54:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:54:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117174525.R52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: /sbin/dump&restore question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:54:50 -0000 i'm using dump to backup up filesystem of about 1.5 million files and 60GB size (14 DVD+RW disks), will be larger for sure after a time. once per about 2 months - full dump, once a week -1 dump, every other day -2 dump. works fine. i used this under NetBSD, now under FreeBSD. but have 2 questions: 1) i'm using dump with FFS snapshot (-L) so in dump's point of view NO changes to filesystem (snapshot) should occur. but - dump size often turns out to be few percent above this calculated. last time after "99.99% - finishing soon" i have to add 14-th DVD while it calculated it to need 13 DVD. why? anyway snapshot feature is excellent when making large backups! i can start it under screen one day, and another day in case of lack of time, without the problem that too many changes will be partially dumped. 2) today - after making full dump, i (just to check) try to do full restore on some place. started /sbin/restore -rvf /dev/dvd and after extracting directory lists it started to do "make node..." but after some thousands of directories it stops, getting 100% CPU, then goes forward, then again hogs the CPU, goes forward etc.. after about one hour (!) on PII/400 machine is goes well after that phase and start to restore. there was exactly the same behaviour in NetBSD with it's restore so it's not FreeBSD specific. it restores data after all but why it needs to work so hard before restoring files? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:00:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE87016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C58D43D5A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 29841 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 17:00:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.178.153]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 17:00:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:00:04 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Crispy Beef Message-ID: <20060117180004.5d4c7f1e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <43CD1AD2.2090005@ntlworld.com> References: <43CD1AD2.2090005@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_3QyaM61OW/VbxjGxJdw+Rn/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot with ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:19 -0000 --Sig_3QyaM61OW/VbxjGxJdw+Rn/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crispy Beef wrote: > When I boot my laptop running 6.0-RELEASE I need to boot with ACPI as=20 > otherwise it crashes. Was wondering how to make booting with ACPI > the default? >=20 > To be honest I'm not bothered about the boot menu at all as I'm quite > happy with the system booting without any interaction. Sometimes I > need to reboot remotely which isn't possible at the moment. I've > read a bit about loader.conf and have used it for various things, is > it as easy as putting a line in there to get this working? If ACPI isn't enabled on your system by default it means your system is blacklisted. To overwrite the blacklist you can set hint.acpi.0.disabled to 0 in /boot/loader.conf. See man acpi for more ACPI tunables. If your system works with ACPI, you probably should file an PR. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_3QyaM61OW/VbxjGxJdw+Rn/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzSKbjV8GA4rMKUQRAqdTAJ93kr51WblW2GhWTX+a/o1+u8dFbwCeKZB9 xKEyVuHtu/Oq5QvRMaVxm74= =lXzK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_3QyaM61OW/VbxjGxJdw+Rn/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:00:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Received: from basement.kutulu.org (2.196.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com [24.27.196.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210AE43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804B761 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:00:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CD22A8.7020301@kutulu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:00:24 -0500 From: Mike Edenfield User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: GNOME without media? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:32 -0000 I notice that when I install GNOME, it pulls in all kinds of multimedia-related things, like gstreamer and esound. I don't even have a sound card in this system, so clearly these don't help me at all. However, for some reason a lot of other, seemingly unrelated packages depend on these media component. For example, trying to remove esound fails because esound is a dependancy of libgnome and libbobonoui and gdm. Do these REALLY need esound to function? Similarly, gstreamer is a dependancy for evolution and gnomecontrolcenter. Is there any easy way to get GNOME installed without these useless components? --Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:04:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22F716A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:04:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D243D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0HH4cOV054666; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:04:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0HH4cOS054663; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:04:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:04:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: vocativus In-Reply-To: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> Message-ID: <20060117180138.T52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pooomooocyyyy ;( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:04:51 -0000 TO JEST ANGIELSKA LISTA MAILOWA. POSZUKAJ POLSKIEJ This is english mailing list, not Polish. please run FreeBSD install CD and enter rescue mode, and type /sbin/dmesg|grep ad this behaviour is very strange, i have never problems with disks on FreeBSD. NEXT TIME PLEASE don't write in Polish here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:07:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740C016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:07:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net (ctb-mesg5.saix.net [196.25.240.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD4143D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (dsl-165-22-103.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.22.103]) by ctb-mesg5.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABE3267E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:07:05 +0200 (SAST) From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:07:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:07:12 -0000 Hi there, I'm managing two FreeBSD based gateways, one running 5.2.1-RELEASE and the other 5.3-STABLE, both not having been updated since I installed from ISO images. They both have custom ipfw firewalls that are dropping pretty much everything that's not supposed to come in. All was fine and dandy until one day I noticed that when I nmap'ed them from the outside, the one shows The 1663 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) PORT STATE SERVICE 80/tcp open http 554/tcp open rtsp 1755/tcp open wms 5190/tcp open aol and the other the same without the http bit. When I nmap them from the only address that they allow ssh&rsync access from (my public IP at work), nmap says that ftp, smtp and irc(port 6668) are open. Even though I have sendmail_enable="none" in my rc.conf I still get some sendmail entries in my syslog so that might explain the open smtp port, but the others are DEFINITELY NOT supposed to be open. I haven't noticed anything different on the servers themselves and neither can I detect these open ports on the machine itself (using lsof -i :1-65535 or netstat). I also haven't noticed any abnormal traffic volumes originating from them. So, have I been hacked and rootkitted? Or is nmap simply lying to me? I've been subscribed to freebsd-announce and thus seen all SA's to date, but none of them are relevant to any of my setups. -- Kilian Hagemann Climate Systems Analysis Group University of Cape Town Republic of South Africa Tel(w): ++27 21 650 2748 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:17:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF4616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:17:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A507343D66 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E936B62C887; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:50 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09119-09; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:50 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C2F62C877; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:50 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 392833F08D; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104733B9CB; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:48 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:17:48 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Robert Slade In-Reply-To: <1137487746.12144.34.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060117131553.B28752@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060117003256.P28752@ganymede.hub.org> <43CC9A1C.5060707@altern.org> <1137487746.12144.34.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:17:53 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Robert Slade wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:36, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Gregory Nou wrote: >> >>> Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to >>>> install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do >>>> as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and >>>> downloading them ... >>>> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? >>>> thanks ... >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// >>>> www.hub.org) >>>> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy >>>> ICQ: 7615664 >>>> >>> look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND >>> UPGRADE OPTIONS. >>> Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed >>> me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is >>> a GUI for rpm. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> -- >>> Gregory >> >> Actually yum's a means for updating that's meant to replace the >> Redhat Network Tool or whatever it was called back in RH9.0 and RHE, >> which comes as primarily a command line tool I thought. As far as I >> know is only available for Fedora-a product primarily made for >> desktop users made by Redhat. >> -Garrett > > To clear up a couple of points: YUM is a Redhat tool but is a command > line one. It works on all Redhat derived systems not just Fedora. BTW > Fedora is not made by Redhat but is sponsored by them - they use it as a > test platform. > > What I don't understand why the OP is installing Linux Apachie2 from > rpms when there is a perfectly good port for BSD which handles the > dependencies and the different locations of files, scripts etc. One word: PHPlib I have a client that has a Linux license for PHPlib, and from talking to the PHPlib folk, they won't convert the license to a FreeBSD one ... rather then send the client off to a Linux hosting company, I'm *trying* to accommodate their requirement on a FreeBSD platform ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:21:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE8A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1896243D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117172154.MUFN6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060117172153.VNOF19063.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:53 +0000 Message-ID: <43CD27AF.9050808@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:51 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian Keil References: <43CD1AD2.2090005@ntlworld.com> <20060117180004.5d4c7f1e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060117180004.5d4c7f1e@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot with ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:21:55 -0000 >>When I boot my laptop running 6.0-RELEASE I need to boot with ACPI as >>otherwise it crashes. Was wondering how to make booting with ACPI >>the default? >> >>To be honest I'm not bothered about the boot menu at all as I'm quite >>happy with the system booting without any interaction. Sometimes I >>need to reboot remotely which isn't possible at the moment. I've >>read a bit about loader.conf and have used it for various things, is >>it as easy as putting a line in there to get this working? > > > If ACPI isn't enabled on your system by default it means your system > is blacklisted. > > To overwrite the blacklist you can set hint.acpi.0.disabled to 0 > in /boot/loader.conf. See man acpi for more ACPI tunables. > > If your system works with ACPI, you probably should file an PR. This is kind of what I thought after reading the acpi man page. I entered the following into the /boot/loader.conf file: hint.acpi.0.disabled="0" Still no luck though, the default option on the loader menu boots without ACPI. When hitting the second option you see ACPI being enabled i.e. /boot/kernel/acpi.ko being loaded. This doesn't happen with option 1 even with the above in my loader.conf file. :-/ Somebody else on this list mentioned the i440BX chipset being a bit flakey with ACPI which is why it might not be enabled by default, but with ACPI it seems to work nice enough for everyday use, fans go on and off, system shuts down nicely etc. The only reference to my chipset I can find on the blacklist is this: INTEL - 440BX (Seattle 2) - 0x00001000 (old) <= Field beyond end of region It's listed as non-critical. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:15:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB22116A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from poczta@gbkonto.net) Received: from smtp.b.win.pl (85.231.149.195.tld.pl [195.149.231.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E434143D55 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:15:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from poczta@gbkonto.net) Received: (qmail 10354 invoked by uid 2185007); 17 Jan 2006 17:15:11 -0000 Received: from 85.231.149.195.tld.pl (HELO www.poczta.gbkonto.net) (poczta@gbkonto.net@195.149.231.85) by smtp.b.win.pl with ESMTPA; 17 Jan 2006 17:15:11 -0000 Received: from 212.160.155.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user poczta@gbkonto.net) by poczta.b.win.pl with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:15:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:15:11 +0100 (CET) From: poczta@gbkonto.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:26:30 +0000 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:15:18 -0000 What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? Greetings Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:29:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FACB16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796AC43D69 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:29:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s18so1241278nze for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:29:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RGloN9qyPh29ObKpS/QfNenhdKrCVUXTy0fMkyRfXL/sbyIZ6+VbPpAaG9WVaQMa/qI6RWJca/1g0NGadDFfxrdx06dvXSF7UmJjB5qfOBGtnfhMYvkvO5CTT4gjaqKXNzlprud4tr7pBZTSAcmcW7nM6F6CxKDNLqxLy1z/61c= Received: by 10.64.204.6 with SMTP id b6mr829628qbg; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:29:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:19 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: Micah In-Reply-To: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: konsole font size and colour ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:29:32 -0000 hi again, the question was about boot screen font size and colour. to be more clear, i copied the line from debian's grub.conf[/boot/grub/menu= .lst] >kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2-686 root=3D/dev/hda1 ro vga=3D792 "vga=3D792" changes the font size seen at boot screen. [this part not included in default installation. i added this later when i learnt.] so all i want to learn : how can i do the same for freebsd ? firstly > where to add this "vga=3D792" ? [no /boot/grub/menu.lst in freebs= d!] secondly > does this will do the same for freebsd too ? or i have to add something else ? bye. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:37:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62CA16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DEA43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from buhnux@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so370126uge for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:36:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=O4bpPrjVNAkRxskev50QVwsFObC4XM25sDk11Ycn93c2gnK5bBj91f357AusWeRVI/G3GBODqm/0BRRLCUenT2FtB8otzOVPQT3EDU2qs6t86RqOj7zmhapcoF16SVFz3aC/5oPMr+Zqe+9GpixF1o31ab08rANlFD1u+9aSRTU= Received: by 10.49.11.6 with SMTP id o6mr338940nfi; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.60.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:36:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:36:44 -0500 From: michael johnson To: Mike Edenfield In-Reply-To: <43CD22A8.7020301@kutulu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43CD22A8.7020301@kutulu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNOME without media? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ahze@ahze.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:37:00 -0000 On 1/17/06, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > I notice that when I install GNOME, it pulls in all kinds of > multimedia-related things, like gstreamer and esound. I don't even have > a sound card in this system, so clearly these don't help me at all. > However, for some reason a lot of other, seemingly unrelated packages > depend on these media component. > > For example, trying to remove esound fails because esound is a > dependancy of libgnome and libbobonoui and gdm. Do these REALLY need > esound to function? Similarly, gstreamer is a dependancy for evolution > and gnomecontrolcenter. Lots of gnome components have to have gstreamer or esound. Is there any easy way to get GNOME installed without these useless > components? > > --Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:39:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9178816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uidzero@bsdhacker.org) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net (smtp4.suscom.net [64.78.119.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224DA43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uidzero@bsdhacker.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA67E150074; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26741-01-60; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [216.45.135.174] (ip174.135.45.216.susc.suscom.net [216.45.135.174]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 10DE1150058; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:39:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CD2B6E.20604@bsdhacker.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:37:50 -0600 From: uidzero User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: poczta@gbkonto.net References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:23 -0000 poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? > Greetings > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:39:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5F216A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A9E43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 14007 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 17:39:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.178.153]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2006 17:39:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:39:35 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: poczta@gbkonto.net Message-ID: <20060117183935.5f24964c@localhost> In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_y75R_5kMjnZHWM+6Q.cF=Xk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:39:35 -0000 --Sig_y75R_5kMjnZHWM+6Q.cF=Xk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_y75R_5kMjnZHWM+6Q.cF=Xk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzSvXjV8GA4rMKUQRAr3OAJ942T4S8XBbUl7SjgoJCOzhaa13hwCfW9Nu ONQfIGMwooIP2Y3gf2wVYy8= =8dSm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_y75R_5kMjnZHWM+6Q.cF=Xk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:42:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C864B16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1907243D58 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:42:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1319937wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:42:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=btTS5Mv2oDRytr4+e6DegPS8H8+rHFCnAHfBZmAKyhGIXO3CwsNGF85W1rcn6XAL2cr6F/JcmydEmvPiI9h4N12uOUo1i5IvfQjjD2lcCX4bI3NYzLWByjnm1ZYm+PR8It/eioiArpH1PWmVWFHNWGRDaqffdRFNoUzMeqt++ys= Received: by 10.65.153.18 with SMTP id f18mr3982471qbo; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:42:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:42:44 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: "poczta@gbkonto.net" In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:42:47 -0000 hi, kernel is one of the differences ;) freebsd uses generic kernel. and one other important difference is freebsd doest not support my intel high definition audio card :( so no sound for years :'( [other distros debian, suse ... support my card.] instead of yum or apt-get, you have ports in freebsd.[ which is more efficient! this is my opinion of course ;)] fedora, debian or suse can be used as an OS for PCs, but freebsd mostly use= d as a server. not much suitable for PC usage. . . . bla bla bla. regards, bye. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:48:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CFA16A423 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C405443D81 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2006011717422901400f5bb5e>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:42:29 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F0D3517024; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:28 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Kilian Hagemann Message-ID: <20060117174228.GA58750@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Kilian Hagemann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:48:41 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm managing two FreeBSD based gateways, one running 5.2.1-RELEASE and the > other 5.3-STABLE, both not having been updated since I installed from ISO > images. They both have custom ipfw firewalls that are dropping pretty much > everything that's not supposed to come in. > > All was fine and dandy until one day I noticed that when I nmap'ed them from > the outside, the one shows > > The 1663 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) > PORT STATE SERVICE > 80/tcp open http > 554/tcp open rtsp > 1755/tcp open wms > 5190/tcp open aol > > and the other the same without the http bit. When I nmap them from the only > address that they allow ssh&rsync access from (my public IP at work), nmap > says that ftp, smtp and irc(port 6668) are open. > > Even though I have sendmail_enable="none" in my rc.conf I still get some > sendmail entries in my syslog so that might explain the open smtp port, but > the others are DEFINITELY NOT supposed to be open. > > I haven't noticed anything different on the servers themselves and neither can > I detect these open ports on the machine itself (using lsof -i :1-65535 or > netstat). I also haven't noticed any abnormal traffic volumes originating > from them. > > So, have I been hacked and rootkitted? Or is nmap simply lying to me? > > I've been subscribed to freebsd-announce and thus seen all SA's to date, but > none of them are relevant to any of my setups. > Run sockstat -4l and see what commands are listening on the ports in question. -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 17:58:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD0C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flashweb@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE0F43D6A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flashweb@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1434312nzp for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:58:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TvdVHzM1EWfaTR10LRPhVCUowoavDBhVlCbsw3B5D6h1zrBAmFiYoOJQSEo6m+0GgsAqNsEM36nlPlt8qNqRZabBd7gMZDNum3nqxJmBTGyJumd5fhUKVhBqZI2HuV4UWVBLyf23sfN7GhoILJ2guaeSqFO8V45HIVyrHSSi9Qk= Received: by 10.65.107.11 with SMTP id j11mr3307846qbm; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.84.8 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:58:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <927ad6550601170958u58ecd702ve6788b454f8f7acd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:28:04 +0530 From: "FlashWebHost.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:58:08 -0000 Linux is just kernel only. FreeBSD is complete operating system. FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:00:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB8D16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85BC443D5A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:00:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 51819 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2006 18:00:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SydjK53RUuikYpgMd/h0grUMvh72Eqml8JgYcqU7BZOV03WTixemZLLqT1BSZ6UrirO+OewDUrPr6yqFxskvBT8KEVbZZ9GMEF69nNlCoN0hDSRmgXIbPWcF15AZUHUvipbhw1jQbgMlIOpNeNMChjX1PMzwpYWoi5J2uA2VKHc= ; Message-ID: <20060117180013.51813.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:00:13 PST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:00:13 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: poczta@gbkonto.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:00:16 -0000 --- poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for > instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs > Linux? > Greetings > Greg Whats the difference between a wheelbarrow and a dumptruck? You can't compare things without stating the intended use. They're both operating systems. Thats about where it ends without specifics. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:07:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55BE16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 465A143D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 43992 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2006 18:07:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yszmgxuWozv0u51dhYfCTHaxMvxfXdsLm2RrUQOHgVs3fdcNby5QCBPxKcdndN4Bp3/x2l3CBFOobgom/pruOKV3TgVVMFfeEZOeJVxOuu9HIVuwPg2KZW8Sub6u5wElRofS7sA/8sOecFa9riVBsoDvgxHLeE9W3Jkz/EuOu6A= ; Message-ID: <20060117180725.43990.qmail@web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:25 PST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: "FlashWebHost.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <927ad6550601170958u58ecd702ve6788b454f8f7acd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:07:26 -0000 --- "FlashWebHost.com" wrote: > Linux is just kernel only. > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar > performance. There are much > already discussed about it, a google search > will give you more info. Nothing personal, but thats about the dumbest and most wrong (wrongest???) answer that one could possibly contemplate. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE9B16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from smtp-one-2.wash.one.se (smtp-one-2.one.se [213.80.101.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5294E43D6D for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from localhost (smtp-one-2.local [127.0.0.1]) by re-injector2.wash.one.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB55466CE6C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:12:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp-one-2.wash.one.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-one-2.wash.one.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06220-03 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:12:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from 81-170-153-180.bahnhofbredband.net (81-170-153-180.bahnhofbredband.net [81.170.153.180]) by smtp-one-2.wash.one.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842E566CB89 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:12:08 +0100 (CET) From: Mark Rowlands To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:11:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601171911.58598.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at one.se (smtp-one-2) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.309 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.rowlands@mypost.se List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:35 -0000 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 18:42, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > but freebsd mostly > used as a server. not much suitable for PC usage. I really dislike this canard, I have run FreeBSD on a laptop since 3.4 and support for the hardware has generally been adequate, I guess it depends what you want to use it for. I wouldn't choose FreeBSD as an operating system for a media centre..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:17:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6393516A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:17:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D761443D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:17:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so1422423wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MT1vQ+dR0v9ho4pkMMdNRnM4SEa9GjB+KTGb1roDIKbQ9OqmrS5WHv9NJ/Tru9PhmVvf9BT7DNRWrJew69Z43W0q+TmDalJzEX36+cK3HlEFiO4vQC/RsWhUVD2nEX5h0NH/G0DxN+m/5g1mupIS/diejcSHLlM0JciY1QF49IM= Received: by 10.65.205.8 with SMTP id h8mr4004606qbq; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:17:44 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: mark.rowlands@mypost.se In-Reply-To: <200601171911.58598.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <200601171911.58598.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:17:46 -0000 i use freebsd at home too :) [as the only o.s. for my pc] that was 'my opinion'. [dont have sound :'( but still use it :p ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:21:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2155D16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957F743D62 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1097819wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:21:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=N1+AoMA2GqhEB58DDgvn4XRECitEFAc4MpeWY4yxq+Mhm6+8KEONTdjQuxn7FNyzQPo2t//OUIrxTapHy7edClwXaJxOUwlWzVo4OdP68UNDUJN4TEUBjm26URDm1wf+FWTezTVQQZZpMTJ7ABvOOyttl4fjJUWSaQ7b5ykvysI= Received: by 10.70.82.7 with SMTP id f7mr9829978wxb; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [65.211.29.191]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h10sm9810967wxd.2006.01.17.10.21.22; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:21:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:21:20 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117182120.GE14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <927ad6550601170958u58ecd702ve6788b454f8f7acd@mail.gmail.com> <20060117180725.43990.qmail@web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060117180725.43990.qmail@web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:21:27 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > > > --- "FlashWebHost.com" > wrote: > > > Linux is just kernel only. > > > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar > > performance. There are much > > already discussed about it, a google search > > will give you more info. > > Nothing personal, but thats about the dumbest and > most wrong (wrongest???) answer that one could > possibly contemplate. > > DT > Actually he's not too far off, Linux really is a kernel, it's not so much of an operating system until you get all the GNU tools to go along with it. Luckily there are distributions that do that for you, or you can go the LFS or DIY route I suppose and download everything yourself. As far as similar performance... well performance has a lot to do with the hardware and applications in question, but I must say there are no major differences between running kde on linux and kde on freebsd on my home pc. So although the answer is incomplete for sure, I certainly wouldn't say that it's the dumbest and/or "wrongest" reply that could have been given. Of course if the OP would have just googled this could have all been avoided to begin with ;) Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:37:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AAE16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pjuels@rics.bwh.harvard.edu) Received: from helios.mgh.harvard.edu (helios.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.242.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ADC43D58 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:37:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pjuels@rics.bwh.harvard.edu) Received: from [132.183.243.81] (ares.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.243.81]) by helios.mgh.harvard.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE9929CCA for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:37:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CD397B.70201@rics.bwh.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:37:47 -0500 From: Philip Juels User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:37:32 -0000 At the risk of getting flamed...someone somewhere in the Usenet universe summed linux as "the most self-incompatible OS." It's one of the unfortunate side-effects of the myriad of different distributions. And a lot of work must be done to compile apps from source in linux if you can't find an rpm bundle. On the other hand, with BSD, when it comes to "apps", BSD either can't do it at all or BSD does it VERY well...better than just about any freely available OS. Of course, that depends on your definition of "apps". That being said, I use both linux and BSD. At home, I use BSD for things like a firewall, website, fileserver, sendmail...common network applications where I want stability and simplicity. For "playing around" I use linux...cause if I break it, I can re-install from CD/DVD quickly. So, at home I use BSD for "production" systems, but linux for more "desktop" like stuff. At work, its the opposite. We use RHEL3 or 4 for production systems and use Fedora and SuSE for desktop. That's primarily because support comes from an identifiable (call-able) source such as Redhat or Novell and patching of the systems is easy. Not to mention the hardware vendor guarantee's compatibility (mention BSD to them and they look at you funny). Also, some commercial enterprise applications like Oracle database don't run natively on BSD. However, I do use the BSD's for custom things like firewalls and utility systems (cd/dvd burning, etc). --PJ poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: >What is the essential difference >between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? >Where can I find any list of differences? >What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? >Greetings >Greg > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:38:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2742816A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0A2543D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45397 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2006 18:38:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gAeQ4mVsJXv/xMTokQ+7wQwdh9ACTh/2cXMDBrBiTQ1t0Ibms4f1YJrGqCsq893rpUuJ9GG5oYcxwEWN3gzdT/XQ5ZsgjXzGE6o+UrmEy2SM+loZOw6rUTfae7Cj7SKKYh2HU3p/b53gLCo0Bu8pc/8sgFGhOlh6WsfhJwpifSU= ; Message-ID: <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:38:24 PST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Mike Hernandez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060117182120.GE14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:25 -0000 --- Mike Hernandez wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800, > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > > > --- "FlashWebHost.com" > > wrote: > > > > > Linux is just kernel only. > > > > > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > > > > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar > > > performance. There are much > > > already discussed about it, a google search > > > will give you more info. > > > > Nothing personal, but thats about the dumbest > and > > most wrong (wrongest???) answer that one > could > > possibly contemplate. > > > > DT > > > > Actually he's not too far off, Linux really is > a kernel, it's not so much > of an operating system until you get all the > GNU tools to go along with it. > Luckily there are distributions that do that > for you, or you can go the LFS > or DIY route I suppose and download everything > yourself. > > As far as similar performance... well > performance has a lot to do with the > hardware and applications in question, but I > must say there are no major > differences between running kde on linux and > kde on freebsd on my home pc. > > So although the answer is incomplete for sure, > I certainly wouldn't say that > it's the dumbest and/or "wrongest" reply that > could have been given. > > Of course if the OP would have just googled > this could have all been avoided > to begin with ;) No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple distributions that use the same kernel. The fact that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't make it any more complete. Performance is markedly different as well. If you only need to do trivial things, then both are suitable. So is Windows or Solaris. Otherwise you just have no idea what you're talking about. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:38:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3036C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAC643D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B0517703 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 4353E546BC; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:29 +0100 Message-ID: <20060117193829.qg32hrirok884kws@imp4.free.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:29 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: the new 2 in 1 shampoo (compression of "english only please" and "what is the best between tux and beastie") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:27 -0000 Allright, sorry for that post. ----------------(cut here)-------------------------- -> Gary, tu veux des lecons de francais ? (you want french lessons) :) -> I am reading this ML for a few months now and it is (if I remember) the third "freebsd vs linux" discussion. Now imagine I just want all of you to loose time (even a little), I wait for a week or two and post a new "What do you think about Tux or Beastie". The sure thing is that there is many and many and many pages dealing with that on the net and for sure even in Polish. This ML is not too much to read but if everyone search more than a little bit on Google, it could get more efficient. talking to newbies : I may be the less experimented in the FBSD world but I search for nights all alone and find something interesting in the end. However, I am very interested about differences between wheelbarrow and dumptruck. I prefer the dumptruck, definitely. --------------------------(cut here)---------------------- sorry again for that post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:38:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BEA16A431 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9043D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so1397412wri for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RPodJ7AslYFLVbtyfIbfiQdd3/5YccXF4ETnMIpkjrCw+plZDjL/mNOvq0EhIFVk73PJDqDZKOMz96FaxWJBxaXPWNpUPwC1EXbiG6LO9yxDhxOIRzMhj8Rmjm6E91YVsE4/JHj2ku7IjLV18dpp3/yHOUX88InPpNKmfUhySUc= Received: by 10.65.43.19 with SMTP id v19mr901654qbj; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:38:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990601171038r33d706f0p6e19612110105e75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:38:39 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20060117180138.T52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <20060117180138.T52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pooomooocyyyy ;( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:41 -0000 On 1/17/06, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > TO JEST ANGIELSKA LISTA MAILOWA. POSZUKAJ POLSKIEJ > > This is english mailing list, not Polish. > Historically, this has not been an English-only list. Questions in any language have been welcome on this list for the nine years that I have subscribed. Why people suddenly believe this has become an English-only list is a mystery to me. Perhaps one of you xenophobes can explain it to me? Why does it bother you so much to see someone post in a language you cannot read? Why can't you just ignore it, just as you ignore other questions that you aren't able to answer? - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:43:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A7D16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD7643D7E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so396755uge for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:42:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oXJSa3nZobM9Cp+co1EntB0r0RT4I1qnGF/u6emgPF1sxPDJ597Lnxzcduxn+nTY0BAUzEvzTCYnA9v72e8yWd+h5P9SZhcxMXzwTYxAEknZHpg+0QNH61d12DZUK0uftSN8vjWeQq5i7LkEsd+t2q//kLLDM4jaqMg+k1bmguA= Received: by 10.49.37.9 with SMTP id p9mr338152nfj; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.231.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:44:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:44:48 -0500 From: "Michael P. Soulier" Sender: msoulier@gmail.com To: "poczta@gbkonto.net" In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:43:12 -0000 On 1/17/06, poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? Just google for it, there are plenty of comparisons. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:54:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02B416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pjuels@rics.bwh.harvard.edu) Received: from helios.mgh.harvard.edu (helios.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.242.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CBA43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:54:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pjuels@rics.bwh.harvard.edu) Received: from [132.183.243.81] (ares.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.243.81]) by helios.mgh.harvard.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819029BA3 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:54:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CD3D8F.3070501@rics.bwh.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:55:11 -0500 From: Philip Juels User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Seq faults all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:54:59 -0000 I've installed version 6 onto a Dell workstation and as I try to install KDE or Gnome, I'm getting segmentation faults. The latest... ===> Building for gtkhtml3-3.6.2 ... (snipped for brevity)... cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../src -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeprintui-2.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -DGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -MT text.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/text.Tpo -c text.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/text.o text.c: In function `html_a11y_text_get_type': text.c:191: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 I've done a bunch of "make installs" (preceeded by "make cleans") and all have seg faulted at different points. Is this an indication of possible hardware problems? THX --PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:55:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C8C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6411443D7D for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1105901wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:55:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=Q8LWUWKKRcLsUxIDWqmg2SMhfx1/ldu3tEM7l3a/1Gtu02ENveTLSWMKThKXSZrDWFLEa1OcXu7ItkBPyqA+v7Vz4BL0nh1A14yp/ysMrfMd9uDnC17Usm8ci1EYHAsh8Ho9+7Ru79BcL8qi1C99tDCeq14/J4+AibGihgokBE8= Received: by 10.70.128.8 with SMTP id a8mr9505677wxd; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [65.211.29.191]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i20sm9579370wxd.2006.01.17.10.55.13; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:55:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:55:10 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117185510.GF14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060117182120.GE14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:25 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:38:24AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't > make it any more complete. > "Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in a combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU, with Linux functioning as its kernel." http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html Google for "linux is a kernel". Doesn't make FreeBSD "better". Just means that when you say FreeBSD you refer to an entire OS and when you say Linux you refer to a kernel. Mike PS we all know the most important difference anyway: linux has a penguin. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 18:56:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:56:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: from ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de (ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de [80.237.203.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE80243D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:56:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: (qmail 98291 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 18:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (matze@mausland-entertainment.com@85.182.73.9) by 0 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 18:52:37 -0000 Message-ID: <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:03:15 +0100 From: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050624) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:56:55 -0000 Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: >hi, >kernel is one of the differences ;) >freebsd uses generic kernel. >and one other important difference is freebsd doest not support my intel >high definition audio card :( >so no sound for years :'( [other distros debian, suse ... support my card.] >instead of yum or apt-get, you have ports in freebsd.[ which is more >efficient! this is my opinion of course ;)] >fedora, debian or suse can be used as an OS for PCs, but freebsd mostly used >as a server. not much suitable for PC usage. >. >. >. >bla bla bla. >regards, >bye. > > imho the seperation of Linux=Multimedia-Home-Use, FreeBSD=Server is no longer valid these days... My hardware is fully supported by FreeBSD and in fact some of it was supported earlier on FreeBSD than on Linux. For example, the Brooktree bktr(4) Video-Capture driver existed first on FreeBSD, also high-speed cd-burning was not possible on Linux without eating all available cpu-time, before kernel 2.6 -- at that time FreeBSD burned my cd's at 52x-speed without noticeable cpu-usage. Multimedia was always a glance on FreeBSD -- dvd-playback/record, xvid-encoding, tv-capturing, blender -- all ever worked like a champ. Additionally to that, i would never move back to a linux distro, simply because their archaic package-management is not half as reliable in day-to-day-use as the FreeBSD ports tree. I am running the same FreeBSD install since 4.9 and it was easy and non-problematic to update to even major release changes. Even if that criticism doesnt apply as much to gentoo, which has some good efforts to use a "ports-tree" under Linux, I just prefer the original :) in the end, the old question of the "best OS" is a waste in any case -- just take the os wich suits your needs and makes you feel comfortable. But pushing FreeBSD in the "Server-OS -- No multimedia possible"-corner does not represents its current state. Sorry, I dont want to start a FreeBSD vs. Linux Discussion -- just giving my 2 cents... greetings Matze From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 19:03:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA616A420; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Received: from web.iteso.mx (web.iteso.mx [148.201.1.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E1B43DAC; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:02:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Received: from www-data by web.iteso.mx with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Eyw6R-0005xM-71; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:02:47 -0600 Received: from customer-201-134-190-211.uninet-ide.com.mx (customer-201-134-190-211.uninet-ide.com.mx [201.134.190.211]) by correo.iteso.mx (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:02:47 -0600 Message-ID: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:02:47 -0600 From: eric@iteso.mx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ11375245674de8468d6ac426f2e85134234bfaccf7" User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 201.134.190.211 Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with Cisco (Atheros) Wireless PCI card on IBM Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:03:13 -0000 This message is in MIME format. ---MOQ11375245674de8468d6ac426f2e85134234bfaccf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico (The Maya Land) Am having problems installing FreeBSD in my University under IBM Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S boxes. I can´t detect the Wireless Cisco (Atheros) PCI lan card. Linux and Windows have no problems recognizing the card but i have problems with FreeBSD 6.0 Here are my dmesg (with and with out ACPI). I don´t know if this is a known issue, but any pointers will be greatly appreciated. I think that the pci3 line shows something but not sure about that. Lic. Eric De La Cruz Lugo. Merida, Yucatan, Mexico. 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+0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jev@ecad.org) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie (mail.emmplus.ie [66.154.97.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B53643D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jev@ecad.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0205EA4B55 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cohiba.emmplus.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47163-03 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (unknown [204.244.149.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7946DA1171 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <43CD4529.5060701@ecad.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:37 -0800 From: Jev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at emmplus.ie Cc: Subject: config.boot: -Dh and booting to single user mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:29:39 -0000 Hi All, I have a server that has console redirection on, and in /boot.config we have '-Dh'. But now for the life of me I cannot boot into single user mode with a physically connected keyboard and monitor. I get to the boot: prompt. From here '-s' makes it boot to multiuser. Any ideas? I have searched for similar scenarios, but no joy. Cheers, -Jev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 19:32:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EC316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF8143D67 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so1417917nzc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:32:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cqwA0zdyN6L/avKKmAYC6pVJQe1sr2GOfdLp25Eo+Df6N4ZjrbgE3s/irlcoviUkSNXD0+mPo+yLUsnKJDOKltAWcht1F0D4UoAt+cDAbJA8kkoG4mIeub1gxWffIbpWuGGBxKagwDlqdowv4iuOG9dp7GoHwcS/PxPvvtRq5wk= Received: by 10.65.215.3 with SMTP id s3mr3985148qbq; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:32:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:32:30 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen In-Reply-To: <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:32:32 -0000 any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? [high definition audio :p] changing the topic ;) missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even kno= w if they still work :p] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 19:47:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A317D16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:47:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270CD43D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from [172.16.1.3] (cpe-70-112-96-145.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.96.145]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0HJlU9C020291 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:47:31 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Barnett Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:47:30 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:47:54 -0000 I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on these boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is all these boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. uname -a looks like (hostname obscured): FreeBSD myhost.mydomain.com 5.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9 #2: Mon Jan 16 23:27:12 PST 2006 root@myhost.mydomain.com:/usr/obj/ usr/src/sys/SMP-PAE i386 My problem is, if i don't enable PAE in the kernel, i can only address half the ram in the boxes, but... the machines are stable. If i do enable PAE, i can address all the memory, but they randomly reboot without dumping any errors or logging. To enable PAE, i am building and booting off the following kernel config: include PAE ident SMP-PAE options SMP options KVA_PAGES=512 I added the KVA_PAGES options hoping to stabilize the machine (doesn't seem to have made any difference.) The only other tuning i am doing at the moment is in loader.conf: kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" # Set the max data size When i boot without PAE I use the generic SMP kernel, and the machine is stable. I know that there are a number of other kernel tunables i could be tweaking, but I am not really sure where to start as the machine dies silently. I was hoping that someone who has run a stable PAE kernel with 8G of ram + could point me in the right direction. Thanks, -Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 19:48:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFAC16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD6943D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:48:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1Eywon-0002gT-UK; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:48:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:48:40 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: eric@iteso.mx Message-ID: <20060117134840.456f9de7@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> References: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc985824f9e5f5ba913aaa6f3ecf960f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Cisco (Atheros) Wireless PCI card on IBM Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:48:39 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:02:47 -0600 eric@iteso.mx wrote: >=20 > Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico (The Maya Land) >=20 > Am having problems installing FreeBSD in my University under IBM > Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S boxes. >=20 > I can=B4t detect the Wireless Cisco (Atheros) PCI lan card. Linux and > Windows have no problems recognizing the card but i have problems > with FreeBSD 6.0 >=20 > Here are my dmesg (with and with out ACPI). >=20 > I don=B4t know if this is a known issue, but any pointers will be > greatly appreciated. >=20 > I think that the pci3 line shows something but not sure about that. >=20 > Lic. Eric De La Cruz Lugo. > Merida, Yucatan, Mexico. > The Maya Land. Hello Eric, It appears that you are still running the FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE kernel. The atheros drivers are not compiled into the kernel by default. Folks on this list have expressed mixed results in loading the kernel modules, so you should probably add the following lines to your kernel configuration file and recompile your kernel: device ath device ath_hal device ath_rate_onoe device wlan #This line should be already be in the configuration file. You can find more information in the online handbook. Wireless Networking: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.= html Ath driver: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dath&sektion=3D4 Configuring the kernel: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:01:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BF716A41F; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from www.cryptography.com (li-22.members.linode.com [64.5.53.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB9F43D45; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from [10.0.0.53] (adsl-67-119-74-222.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.74.222]) by www.cryptography.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k0HK1kVK029774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:01:47 -0800 Message-ID: <43CD4D45.8040705@root.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:02:13 -0800 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eric@iteso.mx References: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> In-Reply-To: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Cisco (Atheros) Wireless PCI card on IBM Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:01:48 -0000 eric@iteso.mx wrote: > Greetings from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico (The Maya Land) > > Am having problems installing FreeBSD in my University under IBM Thinkcentre > MT-M-8183-T1S boxes. > > I can´t detect the Wireless Cisco (Atheros) PCI lan card. Linux and Windows have > no problems recognizing the card but i have problems with FreeBSD 6.0 > > Here are my dmesg (with and with out ACPI). > > I don´t know if this is a known issue, but any pointers will be greatly > appreciated. > > I think that the pci3 line shows something but not sure about that. Did you load the if_ath.ko driver? Apparently, disabling ACPI makes no difference so I don't see how this is an ACPI issue. -- Nate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:02:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5A616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C032743D58 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 40195 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 20:24:04 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 20:24:04 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <37110.195.139.252.5.1137529444.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <43CD3D8F.3070501@rics.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <43CD3D8F.3070501@rics.bwh.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:24:04 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Philip Juels" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seq faults all over the place X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:02 -0000 Sounds like a ram problem > I've installed version 6 onto a Dell workstation and as I try to install > KDE or Gnome, I'm getting segmentation faults. The latest... > > ===> Building for gtkhtml3-3.6.2 > ... (snipped for brevity)... > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../src -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT > -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 > -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 > -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 > -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 > -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnome-2.0 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gconf/2 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomeprintui-2.2 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include -DXTHREADS > -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 > -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gail-1.0 > -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 > -I/usr/local/include -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 > -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 > -DGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED=1 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall > -Wmissing-prototypes -MT text.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/text.Tpo -c text.c > -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/text.o > text.c: In function `html_a11y_text_get_type': > text.c:191: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 > > I've done a bunch of "make installs" (preceeded by "make cleans") and > all have seg faulted at different points. Is this an indication of > possible hardware problems? > > THX > > --PJ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:02:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7EC16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFBC43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1112220wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:02:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=dIOKBlnMm2J5GVPJkPakiBrE+YOx3eIIWwCc9aaXujw5iNBuEihSHSRIswlS1hYr5JGnXeyfW9dKn9Xyp160vUcDFF30AM4XbTXlMPSRR2hUhX2SPwVT7nbhMrJ1cri+GnCXH6t+aQjwGOh30Im0UIXom2IQ/VwdVK5IxsSCHNw= Received: by 10.70.50.16 with SMTP id x16mr9835075wxx; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [65.211.29.191]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h15sm4716414wxd.2006.01.17.12.02.34; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:02:31 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:02:38 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:32:30PM +0200, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? > [high definition audio :p] > changing the topic ;) > missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know > if they still work :p] You know it could be worse, you could be using OpenBSD and then you'd never even have a chance at getting a proprietary driver to work. ;) In the meantime why don't you spend $5 and get a cheap sound card to give you something to do while you wait?:) OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. Linux opens up a new old can of worms... or is that an new can of old worms? Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:10:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D1316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:10:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4047A43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:10:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 42688 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 20:32:28 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 20:32:28 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:32:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <39224.195.139.252.5.1137529948.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <927ad6550601170958u58ecd702ve6788b454f8f7acd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <927ad6550601170958u58ecd702ve6788b454f8f7acd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:32:28 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "FlashWebHost.com" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:10:32 -0000 Have similar performance hah > Linux is just kernel only. > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much > already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:15:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6943416A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:15:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp5.server.rpi.edu (smtp1.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A79A43D79 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp5.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0HKFEgo018826; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:15:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1137444617.7255.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060116214812.GB5533@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137504205.10680.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060117151620.GB19673@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <1137511411.7326.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:15:13 -0500 To: Jason King , David Kelly From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: log file rotation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:15:26 -0000 At 9:23 AM -0600 1/17/06, Jason King wrote: > >On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:16 -0600, David Kelly wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:23:25AM -0600, Jason King wrote: >> > Hmm, when I run newsyslog I get the following message: >> > >> > root@mail# newsyslog -vv >> > newsyslog: malformed 'at' value: > > > /var/log/clamd.log 640 3 * $T00 >> > BJ /var/run/clamd.pid 1 >> > >> > >> > Any ideas? >> > > Use @T00 rather than $T00 > >It is already @T00. I don't know why it appears as a $ in the email. >Just did a copy paste. Go figure on that one. Any other thoughts? If newsyslog is saying that's a bad 'at' value, then there is *something* wrong with that line. Maybe there's some non-printing character in it, which might be why we see $T00 instead of @T00. But as long as newsyslog thinks there is something wrong with the 'at' value on that line, then it will not rotate the files. Maybe you have multiple lines for the same logfile, one with $T00 and one with @T00. Also, you don't need to specify the '1' at the end, since that is just SIGHUP, and newsyslog defaults to using SIGHUP unless you give it some other value. Including the '1' should not cause any problem, though. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:17:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC53416A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:17:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0643D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:17:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from [172.16.1.3] (cpe-70-112-96-145.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.96.145]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0HKHcH9006508 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:17:39 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <09FE5498-82E3-495C-9593-8F1CFF3A3BD6@measuremap.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Barnett Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:17:37 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:17:44 -0000 To ammend this slightly.. When running the PAE kernel, they will stay online indefinitely under little to no load. It is only when i want them to actually work will they freak out and reboot. -m On Jan 17, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Michael Barnett wrote: > I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half > terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on > these boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is > all these boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. > > uname -a looks like (hostname obscured): > > FreeBSD myhost.mydomain.com 5.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9 > #2: Mon Jan 16 23:27:12 PST 2006 root@myhost.mydomain.com:/usr/ > obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-PAE i386 > > > My problem is, if i don't enable PAE in the kernel, i can only > address half the ram in the boxes, but... the machines are stable. > > If i do enable PAE, i can address all the memory, but they randomly > reboot without dumping any errors or logging. > > To enable PAE, i am building and booting off the following kernel > config: > > > include PAE > > ident SMP-PAE > > options SMP > options KVA_PAGES=512 > > > I added the KVA_PAGES options hoping to stabilize the machine > (doesn't seem to have made any difference.) The only other tuning > i am doing at the moment is in loader.conf: > > > kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" # Set the max data size > > > When i boot without PAE I use the generic SMP kernel, and the > machine is stable. > > I know that there are a number of other kernel tunables i could be > tweaking, but I am not really sure where to start as the machine > dies silently. I was hoping that someone who has run a stable PAE > kernel with 8G of ram + could point me in the right direction. > > Thanks, > > -Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:26:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E937A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E8A43D62 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k0HKQpiU012519; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k0HKQp9a012518; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:26:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200601172026.k0HKQp9a012518@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: fbsdlists@gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:26:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <54db43990601171038r33d706f0p6e19612110105e75@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pooomooocyyyy ;( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:26:57 -0000 > > On 1/17/06, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > TO JEST ANGIELSKA LISTA MAILOWA. POSZUKAJ POLSKIEJ > > > > This is english mailing list, not Polish. > > > > Historically, this has not been an English-only list. Questions in > any language have been welcome on this list for the nine years that I > have subscribed. Why people suddenly believe this has become an > English-only list is a mystery to me. Perhaps one of you xenophobes > can explain it to me? > > Why does it bother you so much to see someone post in a language you > cannot read? Why can't you just ignore it, just as you ignore other > questions that you aren't able to answer? That's pretty much what I do. I even try to guess what some of them are saying if I am not too worn out, but usually am not very successful. I don't understand some of the recent agitation for an English-only statement. It might be OK to include a reminder in the charter something about most of the readers are English speaking so questions posted in another language might not get as much response as those posted in English, but I would guess that most of the non-English posters already realize that. My only hope is that if someone posts in another language doesn't get a satisfactory response, they don't then start flaming about being too English oriented or some such. It has happened a little a couple of times, but not much. ////jerry > - Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:34:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CCD16A422 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DE043D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:34:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0HKYTgM072801 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:34:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0HKYSdq072798 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:34:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:34:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117213244.I72507@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: /sbin/restore broken??!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:34:38 -0000 or maybe dump while testing my full backup with restore -rvf, after 7-th DVD restoring fine, when started to restore 8-th DVD it prepends ? to every file name like this: extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/a2p extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msggrep extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/gettext extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgconv extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/ngettext extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgfmt extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgcmp extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgmerge extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgunfmt extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/screen-3.9.13 extract file ?/home/kopie/3miasto.net/root/NetBSD-1-5/usr/pkg/bin/msgattrib and of course failed to create. i stopped restore, added symlink with ln -s . \? and rerun it from DVD 8 so it is able to restore files. but what's this "?" ??!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 20:57:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6292A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6CA43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyxt2-0002tb-Ro; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:04 -0700 To: danial_thom@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Mike Hernandez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:57:06 -0000 On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote: > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't > make it any more complete. Actually it is spot on. Linux is a kernel. The various distributions add a ueserland and tools to it but if you go look at the actual definition of Linux you will find it is just a kernel. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:00:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B671A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EEB43D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Eyxwm-0003Cd-MH; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:00:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:00:55 -0700 To: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:59 -0000 On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? > [high definition audio :p] > changing the topic ;) > missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont > even know > if they still work :p] Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card in my G5, and they work, but with weird side effects like hanging IO. My dad had some sound card issues on Windows with "supported" cards. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:02:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52B116A423 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BF143D5F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.dyndns.org (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006011721015901500ai42je>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:01:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:01:43 -0800 From: Rob To: freebsd Message-Id: <20060117130143.3567e6ef.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux/ vs. OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:02:31 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:02:31 -0500 Mike Hernandez wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 09:32:30PM +0200, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? > > [high definition audio :p] > > changing the topic ;) > > missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know > > if they still work :p] > > You know it could be worse, you could be using OpenBSD and then you'd never > even have a chance at getting a proprietary driver to work. ;) In the meantime > why don't you spend $5 and get a cheap sound card to give you something to do > while you wait?:) > > OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. Linux opens up a new old can of worms... or is that > an new can of old worms? > > Mike Hi, My experience with FreeBSD on the laptop has been very good. And even OpenBSD isn't too bad for a laptop these days. Their generic kernel picks up most of the hardware. Rob Lytle ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 Rob Lytle Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:12:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AB16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0433B43D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:12:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1Eyy8L-0004UT-De for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:12:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:12:56 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc63a7b5f54fbadb8c60653fe4ed790d86350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:12:56 -0000 A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote: I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I don't buy it. After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and 1998 -- anyone remember ISA cards, serial mice and AT cases?) I went through the process of finding a good operating system for it. The computer has a Pentium II 333MHz chip and 384MB RAM; so it's definitely worth keeping. I was unable to successfully install Fedora Core 4, SUSE Linux Professional 9.3, or Ubuntu 5.10. I was given the advice to try old versions of Linux; but how, then, does one deal with security issues? FreeBSD 6.0 and NetBSD 3.0 installed without any problems. The onboard sound chip was dead; so I swapped out the ISA modem for an ISA sound card, which was supported by both *BSD's. The onboard video is supported by both XFree86 and xorg. There are 3 PCI slots, so I added a D-Link Atheros wireless card and a USB2 card to get around most of the motherboard's limitations. For example, the hard drives connected via IDE are limited to ~8GB partitions; however, the computer seems to deal with a 60GB external, USB2 hard drive without problems. The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add a mouse or keyboard at that point.) Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:33:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5786F16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:33:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com (wolf.pjkh.com [66.228.196.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFF843D6A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CB4172DE; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06579-07; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEDAF172D4; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9694172D3; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST) From: Philip Hallstrom To: "Andrew L. Gould" In-Reply-To: <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> Message-ID: <20060117133047.B7000@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pjkh.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:33:08 -0000 > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I > get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can > disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add > a mouse or keyboard at that point.) /usr/ports/sysutils/screen Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical terminal between several processes (typically interactive shells). Each virtual terminal provides the functions of a DEC VT100 terminal and, in addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO 6429) and ISO 2022 standards (e.g. insert/delete line and support for multiple character sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for each virtual terminal and a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows moving text regions between windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:36:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADC316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:36:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E0443D6A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EyyVY-0000RY-7W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:36:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:36:55 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117153655.39e285e1@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20060117183824.45395.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcf66b55f0105fce2c76c0d2841b83b7dc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:36:58 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:04 -0700 "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote: > > > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple > > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact > > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't > > make it any more complete. > > Actually it is spot on. Linux is a kernel. The various > distributions add a ueserland and tools to it but if you go look at > the actual definition of Linux you will find it is just a kernel. > > Chad > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net I think the kernel vs OS difference is very important. "Linux" has a reputation of being very stable. If you survey the many (many, many) Linux distributions, however, I don't think you can justify one reputation for all of them. Advising someone to switch to "Linux" is dangerous because the advice is horribly incomplete. The advice needs to include information about specific distributions. Linux distributions can differ significantly. At this point, the decision process becomes much more complicated. This also explains why experienced Linux users are tired of hearing newbies ask "Which Linux is best? Which distribution should I use?" I enjoyed my time using Linux. There are still days when I miss Caldera's eDesktop 2.4. (What other OS let you play pacman _during_ the OS installation?!) I still try Linux distros every now and then for driver support; but greener grass seems to come with taller weeds. Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:37:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFB216A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0613C43D55 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EyyWJ-0006jm-5T; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:37:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:37:42 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Philip Hallstrom Message-ID: <20060117153742.524834ec@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117133047.B7000@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> <20060117133047.B7000@wolf.pjkh.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc4f719e5bc24368fe8f4b39eb136c90df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:37:42 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST) Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon > > as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so > > I can disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll > > have to add a mouse or keyboard at that point.) > > /usr/ports/sysutils/screen > > Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical > terminal between several processes (typically interactive shells). > Each virtual terminal provides the functions of a DEC VT100 terminal > and, in addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO > 6429) and ISO 2022 standards (e.g. insert/delete line and support for > multiple character sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for > each virtual terminal and a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows > moving text regions between windows. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:47:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3236916A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:47:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 910CA43D8F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 71204 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 22:08:32 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 22:08:32 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:08:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <55478.195.139.252.5.1137535712.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:08:32 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:47:08 -0000 Using sound on a Unix box will not give you the same support for that then on a windows box if the sound card problem is with all major os'es then i would think your sound card is ready to be changed out i have a audigy Z2 in my unix box and i have had no errors so fare freebsd doesnt support high definition sound it barely support surround sound using OSS so dont expect to much as of now > > On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > >> any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? >> [high definition audio :p] >> changing the topic ;) >> missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont >> even know >> if they still work :p] > > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof inexpensive sounds > cards that are probably supported by FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as well. I > have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card in my G5, and they > work, but with weird side effects like hanging IO. My dad had some > sound card issues on Windows with "supported" cards. > > Chad > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:49:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2249C16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:49:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mx1.bol-online.com (mx1.bol-online.com [202.84.35.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4E543D64 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:49:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from dell.bol-online.com (tcr6ep136.dhaka.net [202.84.37.136]) by mx1.bol-online.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8367EAC4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:52:27 +0600 (BDT) Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.0.20060118035012.03470970@bol-online.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:04:10 +0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Aftab Jahan Subedar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BOL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BOL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BOL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SBL+XBL X-MailScanner-From: jahan@bol-online.com X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: KDE3 install problem n solution (BUG ????) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:49:55 -0000 Installing & compiling KDE3 in 4.7 had problem in line 275 of /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.4.3/kcontrol/usbview/usbdevices.cpp Changing USB_MAX_DEVNAMES to MAXDEVNAMES solves the problem. izzit true for u all or just me?!!!!! izzit a bug or feature!!!!! //for ( int i = 0; i < USB_MAX_DEVNAMES; ++i ) for ( int i = 0; i < MAXDEVNAMES; ++i )//changed USB_MAX_DEVNAMES to MAXDEVNAMES here 17 jan 06 aftab jahan subedar %uname -a FreeBSD bagicha 4.7-RELEASE-p28 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p28 #4: Wed Oct 26 02:35:27 GMT 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SubedarTech i386 % Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subeda Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatrabari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh tel:+88027519050 http://www.geocities.com/jahan.geo/mysql_c_by_example.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 21:56:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7B316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B6A43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1128812wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:56:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=qTi6npR8u55t3Evkque0UVEbTLiF6PVpWYFt1u3Gr/uv7rJpwfh2xKOKQL+y0tfmqFoa+1pkh4qidoAcqeAfR6NISwJ9avVJKE8sNAA3ErlHrnQGN1LJ3eAnfu7vk0VN4EL2jXV+de+fcReiBu4YJlyF1epvTtVNO6Pk0Yz+eeI= Received: by 10.70.14.6 with SMTP id 6mr8405644wxn; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [65.211.29.191]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h10sm10023776wxd.2006.01.17.13.56.35; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:56:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:56:33 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060117215633.GL14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.2.5.6.0.20060118035012.03470970@bol-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.0.20060118035012.03470970@bol-online.com> Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: KDE3 install problem n solution (BUG ????) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:56:38 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:04:10AM +0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: > Installing & compiling KDE3 in 4.7 had problem in line 275 of > /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.4.3/kcontrol/usbview/usbdevices.cpp > Not ready for 3.5 yet are you? Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:02:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7709716A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5886D43D46 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 44341 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2006 22:02:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=VXjP9/TxvwLhGOnx3khrwQXUOBomX1SFjaxSvUpPJX2IDJZ3HxnOVFhY+Z3ErMmgTZVTVA239g6aM4T57MIiy/xO6T/Z5U79TLsPg6+nH/z0X/OqnDl0Ca+ev5kokpfjbCkWMkVnrpajWnsaGwhGso9zm8K0vHqxtA/+Aq6gKUg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 22:02:34 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Free BSD Questions list'" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> Thread-Index: AcYbqS1LJxi6BsWlSjKxYfk9W2E9IQAB+5HQ Message-Id: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:36 -0000 > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as > well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card > in my G5, and they work, but with weird side effects like > hanging IO. My dad had some sound card issues on Windows > with "supported" cards. > > Chad > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an absurd suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not matured yet to compete with Microsoft. If you are looking for compatibility, Windows is the answer. You are looking for security and stable releases, FreeBSD is the answer If you are seeking *free* OS with largest compatibility, Linux is the answer If you are seeking performance, FreeBSD is the answer. Windows almost runs everything, FreeBSD is stable, good performance but it is behind Linux when it comes to releasing drivers (example, zero-channel RAID cards weren't supported until very recently and still not quite official). The Linux OS has a much larger community than FreeBSD and hence has more development in it. In my opinion, I think the Unix world had missed the boat on trying to take over MSFT. The new Windows coming out are as stable as the Unix servers. With the Vista Windows, and a dramatic reduction of GUI, you can expect much better OS. Unix community simply did not get their act together and try to build an OS for the masses. The main argument for Unix is it is "Free", but compatibility and upgrade paths are different issues. These are my two cents! Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:18:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD7A16A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE02A43D55 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:18:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so22690wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:18:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fnw+ERd++xakNIPVufyQMYFYar0kxTHwnfvOrhVof7qhMDW3uNl+Bv2G1rOxr+8AW3byKBsVo+9m/BCKfAzaoxV7tVE51zgewxfecK0ZVkGBxlq9CIfhHMpYeUJ8TbS9F2mXMRCuurxMYnUjYaYFFxe0FRJbrz3Ol3l/kWAe9R0= Received: by 10.54.81.19 with SMTP id e19mr131426wrb; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.133.5 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:18:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fee5e300601171418h742989aes618cc29575472bbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:18:27 -0600 From: luke To: Nate Lawson In-Reply-To: <43CD4D45.8040705@root.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1137524567.43cd3f572b1ac@correo.iteso.mx> <43CD4D45.8040705@root.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: eric@iteso.mx, freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Cisco (Atheros) Wireless PCI card on IBM Thinkcentre MT-M-8183-T1S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:18:29 -0000 i believe there are also issues with some of the newer firmware versions from cisco on these cards. google might tell you more, just thought i recalled some problems with them in the past and having to roll back the fw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:19:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F332316A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B70643D49 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.dyndns.org (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006011722135901500addc1e>; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:13:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:13:43 -0800 From: Rob To: freebsd Message-Id: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: partitioning "after the fact" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:19:02 -0000 I guess I didn't plan well in my partitioning scheme for this laptop. I have a 15G primary partition #1 containing XP, 15G logical partition #2 containing empty space recovered from a previous Linux install, 15G primary partition #3 containing FreeBSD, and the rest of the disk unallocated. I think I already know the answer to my question but I wanted to ask to make certain. I would like to make partition #2 to also contain FreeBSD. But if I remember correctly there is no way to do such a thing without starting all over again in setting up the disk. Thanks, Rob. -- ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 Rob Lytle Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:25:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D848216A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B6E43D5F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060117222522.WLYO14388.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:25:22 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:25:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: php & pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:27 -0000 Does the port php4-4.4.0 include the php pear interface? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:25:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810DA16A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3C5243D48 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 19614 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jan 2006 22:25:57 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 22:25:57 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 21F2C679B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:25:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:25:55 -0600 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:25:58 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote: > > > > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. > > Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an absurd > suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not matured yet > to compete with Microsoft. That or the user(s). Microsoft doesn't write any sound card drivers, they make manufacturers do it then pay and beg to be included on the master distribution CD/DVD. For a device to work in FreeBSD someone who wants it bad enough to do the work has to have the skills and want it bad enough to do it. Of course "wanting" is no small part of how such skills are developed. Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa. In the early days of FreeBSD if one wanted a reliable CDROM then it had to be SCSI. Those who were doing the work liked SCSI, SCSI drives were much more consistant between makes and models than non-SCSI. So that was about the only choice one had in FreeBSD. Linux was very IDE-centric. Tuned around mass storage devices which were single-tasking. Resulting in Linux kernels which had an awful time dealing with SCSI devices which could queue multiple requests which might not respond in the exact same order as asked. SCSI was a four letter word in Linux camp. Today FreeBSD does an excellent job of supporting ATAPI, EIDE, and ATA devices. I don't know but expect Linux has matured and handles SCSI much better than in the past as features of ATA devices today closely resemble SCSI. The FreeBSD 6.0 kernel has a wrapper for using binary Windows device drivers. IIRC the main motivator (see above) was for broad WiFi hardware support. Might be able to use Windows sound card drivers for all I know. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:26:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8A016A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C324843D45 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from [172.16.1.3] (cpe-70-112-96-145.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.96.145]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0HMQa9C004477 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:26:36 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <38B0D3AA-E02D-4B95-BF26-8ED49F371C00@measuremap.com> From: Michael Barnett Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:26:33 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel memory tunables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:39 -0000 I am trying to figure out which system tunables determine memory resource usage by the amount of available physical memory in the box so i can hard code sane values on a system with a lot of memory. Thanks, -Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:29:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C8016A420 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:29:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA3843D9B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:29:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1135502wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:29:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TFPh9l08p6mNwfx6+lVo60ipH2uw5mnwC81JrKeo5OP9Kp+L80Z/B5jlN0z1fAJjWPwz137qFltnGHzP0gDJ9Uj8ABKSUGL8zq785qV+uBpFOTuYXqig9rOnWU9xomzlhQKnlMhcDA62TkciHW+/wpw00dNkxmo5mJOlhYgVDcs= Received: by 10.70.122.14 with SMTP id u14mr9851609wxc; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:29:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601171429q6111d110p@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:29:09 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: Rob In-Reply-To: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: partitioning "after the fact" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:29:31 -0000 On 17/01/06, Rob wrote: > #2 containing empty space recovered from a previous Linux install, 15G pr= imary partition > t I would like to make partition #2 to also contain > FreeBSD. But if I remember correctly there is no way to do such a > thing without starting all over again in setting up the disk. course you can. man fdisk and disklabel, or just use sysinstall: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-adding.ht= ml -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:31:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3F916A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B41443D6B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1135841wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:31:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iagcrwxsfwc51hHWdFH1T+jfdmZRfIi2Z9BLPOI4uv/+T3TtuOf1FAhGfVMd9ERCBtWOij5VCvJ2ufHdgFNJGqfjPcY0h1fAjrCCnLWD69SvC0UO3XjCA+KnT0ZrspNVqELX7cksToHHk+rrtue+9QBcv+7iBW8nQZ/jectpniY= Received: by 10.70.69.10 with SMTP id r10mr9777421wxa; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:31:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601171431w3e97636fo@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:31 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:31:33 -0000 On 17/01/06, David Kelly wrote: > Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the > tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. > Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa. Danger Will Robinson! The GPL can make Linux -> FreeBSD copying^W inspiration very tricksy indeed. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:39:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3830616A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:39:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B4A43D5C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 22536 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jan 2006 22:39:11 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2006 22:39:11 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id B2088679B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:39:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:39:10 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Rob Message-ID: <20060117223910.GB21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: partitioning "after the fact" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:39:19 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:13:43PM -0800, Rob wrote: > I guess I didn't plan well in my partitioning scheme for this laptop. > > I have a 15G primary partition #1 containing XP, 15G logical partition > #2 containing empty space recovered from a previous Linux install, 15G primary partition > #3 containing FreeBSD, and the rest of the disk unallocated. > > I think I already know the answer to my question but I wanted to ask > to make certain. I would like to make partition #2 to also contain > FreeBSD. But if I remember correctly there is no way to do such a > thing without starting all over again in setting up the disk. You could *add* it as another filesystem fairly easily. Guessing FreeBSD is on /dev/ad0s3, XP on /dev/ad0s1, and the previous Linux install is slice 2, /dev/ad0s2. The easiest thing to do would be fire up sysinstall on your running multiuser system then write a partition table to /dev/ad0s2 and claim (probably) /dev/ad0s2d as "/usr2", write filesystem, and mount it. If you feel like playing and have nothing to lose and everything to learn then look into geom(4), ccd(4), and (g)vinum, as different means of spanning a filesystem (grow /usr or /home onto the new space) over multiple partitions. Its not the kind of thing one normally wants to do on a single drive system, but sometimes one has to do what one has to do. Also might learn something in the process. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 23:12:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D39916A41F for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:12:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7DE43D4C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k0HNCkiU012995; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k0HNCkjB012994; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200601172312.k0HNCkjB012994@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: europa100@comcast.net (Rob) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:12:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20060117141343.048b36a8.europa100@comcast.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: partitioning "after the fact" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:12:48 -0000 > > I guess I didn't plan well in my partitioning scheme for this laptop. > > I have a 15G primary partition #1 containing XP, > 15G logical partition #2 containing empty space recovered from > a previous Linux install, > 15G primary partition #3 containing FreeBSD, and the rest of > the disk unallocated. > > I think I already know the answer to my question but I wanted to ask > to make certain. I would like to make partition #2 to also contain > FreeBSD. But if I remember correctly there is no way to do such a > thing without starting all over again in setting up the disk. I am not sure about turning it into a primary slice from a logical partition. If fdisk can see it as da0s2 (or ad0s2) then it is easy. Just use fdisk to turn it into a FreeBSD type slice (type 165) and then make a single (or more if you want) partition on it with disklabel/bsdlabel. It would then be mountable as /dev/da0s2a (or /dev/ad0s2a). ////jerry > > Thanks, > > Rob. > > -- > > ------------------ > http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 > Rob Lytle Home Page > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:00:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E15116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB45443D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I00baV020952 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:00:38 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I00aET006976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:00:36 -0800 Message-ID: <43CD8522.9040309@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:00:34 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PORN_PHRASE_15_0 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:40 -0000 Andrew L. Gould wrote: > A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote: > > I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can > breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I > don't buy it. > > After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and > 1998 -- anyone remember ISA cards, serial mice and AT cases?) I went > through the process of finding a good operating system for it. The > computer has a Pentium II 333MHz chip and 384MB RAM; so it's definitely > worth keeping. I was unable to successfully install Fedora Core 4, > SUSE Linux Professional 9.3, or Ubuntu 5.10. I was given the advice to > try old versions of Linux; but how, then, does one deal with > security issues? > > FreeBSD 6.0 and NetBSD 3.0 installed without any problems. The onboard > sound chip was dead; so I swapped out the ISA modem for an ISA > sound card, which was supported by both *BSD's. The onboard video is > supported by both XFree86 and xorg. There are 3 PCI slots, so I added > a D-Link Atheros wireless card and a USB2 card to get around most of the > motherboard's limitations. For example, the hard drives connected via > IDE are limited to ~8GB partitions; however, the computer seems to deal > with a 60GB external, USB2 hard drive without problems. > > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I > get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can > disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add > a mouse or keyboard at that point.) > > Andrew Gould > You probably didn't get past the GUI end of Linux distros. Most distros are tailored to end users nowadays so you have to grind your way through the mucky X junk they require to be installed in order to get to the guts of the distro. Depending on what you are trying to accomplish though, you should use whatever tools best fit the job at hand. Me? I hate FreeBSD desktop use (tried it for 1.5-2 years, but didn't like the means of updating), so I'm sticking with Gentoo for that purpose. My server however? It's a lower end Celeron with FreeBSD on it, and I like it that way because it has just enough tools to share my files between my 2 PCs via NFS and Samba, as well as it's fairly secure and doesn't demand a lot of CPU cycles for compiling stuff necessarily like Gentoo does (even though I schedule it for portupgrade via cron every once in a while). For everything else? My iBook serves as my portable link because Apple makes pretty solid hardware and software, given other hardware vendors and software makers on the market. It's the perfect mix between proprietary and non-proprietary/open-source software (available via Fink and other Cocoa/Carbon developer's sites). So, is there really one perfect solution? No... if there was then everyone would use the same thing. Are there good solutions for particular applications? Yes, and that is why you need to define your goals and expectations before asking others about what you want to accomplish. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:07:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E73D16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB3843D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I07v42024235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:07:57 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I07tFS009109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:07:57 -0800 Message-ID: <43CD86D9.401@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:07:53 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:07:58 -0000 Tamouh H. wrote: >> Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof >> inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by >> FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ >> >> Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as >> well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card >> in my G5, and they work, but with weird side effects like >> hanging IO. My dad had some sound card issues on Windows >> with "supported" cards. >> >> Chad >> >> > > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. > > Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an absurd > suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not matured yet to > compete with Microsoft. > > If you are looking for compatibility, Windows is the answer. > > You are looking for security and stable releases, FreeBSD is the answer > > If you are seeking *free* OS with largest compatibility, Linux is the answer > > If you are seeking performance, FreeBSD is the answer. > > Windows almost runs everything, FreeBSD is stable, good performance but it > is behind Linux when it comes to releasing drivers (example, zero-channel > RAID cards weren't supported until very recently and still not quite > official). The Linux OS has a much larger community than FreeBSD and hence > has more development in it. > > In my opinion, I think the Unix world had missed the boat on trying to take > over MSFT. The new Windows coming out are as stable as the Unix servers. > With the Vista Windows, and a dramatic reduction of GUI, you can expect much > better OS. > Where did you read that about Vista? I've seen the beta versions of Vista and they all require cadillac machines with spiffy OpenGL cards, etc, in order to function without a lot of lag and hiccups. And when you turn all the bells and whistles off, Vista is nothing more than a graphics enhanced versions of XP with additional security features, such as required administrator logins, etc like Unix has been doing for years and Mac has been doing for a while. Windows Vista will no doubt require lots of RAM in comparison to XP because the developers/business team will add more features than users can shake a stick at. Yet, sadly enough I do not deny the fact that Windows is required given the software development model and noting where the money lies in software and hardware support. Heck, if Windows didn't exist I doubt I would have a job =D. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:12:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71FE16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8422343D70 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:11:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I0BuhZ021789 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:11:56 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I0Bstw018259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: <43CD87C9.9020708@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:11:53 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org References: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:12:07 -0000 David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote: > >> >>> Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof >>> inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by >>> FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ >>> >> Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. >> >> Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an absurd >> suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not matured yet >> to compete with Microsoft. >> > > [snip] > > The FreeBSD 6.0 kernel has a wrapper for using binary Windows device > drivers. IIRC the main motivator (see above) was for broad WiFi hardware > support. Might be able to use Windows sound card drivers for all I > know. I don't think so... wireless cards have a specific grand unified interface called NDIS, whereas I'm 99.9% sure that different vendors have different interfaces for sound cards. Read: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ for more info on NDIS. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:18:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBDD16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43A3943D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:18:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 23730 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=qcbLoTWfCu7K4OVeIs9z+23pNUjWqcFT5SXTxfdrdyNAcx8mG0CKkpB3/ilucIdZo3TnzJ2sV8z3MVDSLWqicnke4bJmj6JMON+71OLLncdKkrfbUxNvuf1Bdal7PJ+jwfCt9NiEAZmxg1Uj56F/u2PQBUsUiLRGVuZ97YdOams= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:16:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <43CD86D9.401@u.washington.edu> Thread-Index: AcYbw2L9E2f0/1BDSrS242WBUT0VAwAAH8HA Message-Id: <20060118001849.43A3943D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:18:51 -0000 >That or the user(s). Microsoft doesn't write any sound card drivers, they make >>>manufacturers do it then pay and beg to be included on the master distribution >CD/DVD. >For a device to work in FreeBSD someone who wants it bad enough to do the work has >to have the skills and want it bad enough to do it. Of course "wanting" is no >small part of how such skills are developed. >Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the tough details >about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. >Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa. Still Microsoft has the upper hand! How about this for an idea, sponsored drivers ? Why not allow such service that if an organization or individual wishes to have a driver written they can sponsor a FreeBSD developer to do it? > Where did you read that about Vista? I've seen the beta > versions of Vista and they all require cadillac machines with > spiffy OpenGL cards, etc, in order to function without a lot > of lag and hiccups. And when you turn all the bells and > whistles off, Vista is nothing more than a graphics enhanced > versions of XP with additional security features, such as > required administrator logins, etc like Unix has been doing > for years and Mac has been doing for a while. Windows Vista > will no doubt require lots of RAM in comparison to XP because > the developers/business team will add more features than > users can shake a stick at. Yet, sadly enough I do not deny > the fact that Windows is required given the software > development model and noting where the money lies in software > and hardware support. Heck, if Windows didn't exist I doubt I > would have a job =D. > -Garrett Sorry, I wanted to mean LongHorn server, not the desktop version, for info about windows non-gui: http://www.entmag.com/reports/article.asp?EditorialsID=93 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:22:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AC716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8497843D75 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27DE3A73A2; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89075-07; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.tsgincorporated.com (lanmail.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.29]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1F93A739F; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from michealxp (michealxp.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by mail.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 08DCC952631; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <078501c61b8b$478265d0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Kilian Hagemann" , References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:27:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Cc: Subject: Re: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kilian Hagemann" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? > Hi there, > > I'm managing two FreeBSD based gateways, one running 5.2.1-RELEASE and the > other 5.3-STABLE, both not having been updated since I installed from ISO > images. They both have custom ipfw firewalls that are dropping pretty much > everything that's not supposed to come in. > > All was fine and dandy until one day I noticed that when I nmap'ed them > from > the outside, the one shows > > The 1663 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) > PORT STATE SERVICE > 80/tcp open http > 554/tcp open rtsp > 1755/tcp open wms > 5190/tcp open aol > Kilian, what does a sockstat show you on those systems and are there any nats on either of these systems that would have a redirect_address to something behind them? -- Micheal Patterson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:22:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE04116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djh@nebcorp.com) Received: from ratchet.nebcorp.com (ratchet.nebcorp.com [205.217.153.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EFB43D68 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djh@nebcorp.com) Received: by ratchet.nebcorp.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) id 95573D982A; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:22:48 -0800 From: Danny Howard To: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" Message-ID: <20060118002248.GE9258@ratchet.nebcorp.com> References: <7.0.0.16.2.20060116210309.0769fee8@msdi.ca> <2cbf87d0601162132n50c67182w1e76f5535ce18398@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2cbf87d0601162132n50c67182w1e76f5535ce18398@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ian Lord Subject: Re: Time Zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:22:53 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:32:01AM -0400, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: > On 1/16/06, Ian Lord wrote: > > What is the "prefered" time zone for a web server > > > > Is it better to keep it GMT or local timezone ? > > Both ;) Set the machine's clock to GMT (actually, UTC.) Then set the > correct timezone for your location. Actually, the SYSTEM CLOCK is UTC, right? Unless you're supporting a Weeendows dual-boot environment. Timezone is then a locale setting. I like to leave the timezone alone, and let uers or applications set the time zone to whatever they please. What time zone should you use? Whatever time zone you like. If you set the zone to EST5EDT then then the system locale will adapt DST for you automatically. -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:38:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86F16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:38:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576B43D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=[192.168.0.148]) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ez1LA-000MPF-6O; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <43CD8DFD.1040805@stelesys.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:21 -0500 From: Jerry Bell User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" References: <43CCDBC0.8000800@schmittnet.com> In-Reply-To: <43CCDBC0.8000800@schmittnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslog logging recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:38:29 -0000 I'd recommend using rsyslog (www.rsyslog.com). The integration with mysql is much cleaner, IMO, than syslog-ng. Jerry http://www.syslog.org Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > I'm looking for a recommendation for capturing syslogs from my small > network. Specifically, initially I'd like to capture the syslog from > my Netgear router and store it on my FreeBSD machine. Later I'd add > other machines on the network. I've seen msyslog in the ports, but > there's virtually no information on it out there. I've also seen > syslog-ng, which looks promising. I'd like to store the information in > mySQL. I'd appreciate any recommendations and/or pointers to pages > with setup examples. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:46:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF10316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1888843D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 13935 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jan 2006 00:40:23 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 00:40:23 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060118001849.43A3943D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20060118001849.43A3943D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:46:52 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:55 -0000 On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Tamouh H. wrote: > Still Microsoft has the upper hand! How about this for an idea, > sponsored > drivers ? Why not allow such service that if an organization or > individual > wishes to have a driver written they can sponsor a FreeBSD > developer to do > it? How is that in any way new? The problem is that squeaky wheels are expecting their soundcard to be supported instantly and for free. Yet for some reason they hang around FreeBSD in spite of the "soundcard driver deficiency." -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:50:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6CF16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@hayers.org) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795C143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@hayers.org) Received: from thor.hayers.net ([82.34.131.150]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:51:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.8.2] (bart.hayers.net [192.168.8.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by thor.hayers.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0I0o6QA084346; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:06 GMT (envelope-from gary@hayers.org) Message-ID: <43CD90C8.4020808@hayers.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:16 +0000 From: Gary Hayers User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter with Sophos (http://www.amavis.org) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2006 00:51:15.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[4931BA50:01C61BC9] Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: php & pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:18 -0000 fbsd_user wrote: > Does the port php4-4.4.0 include the php pear interface? > > thanks See /usr/ports/devel/pear or http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html and search for 'pear' -- Regards, Gary Hayers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 00:50:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F9A16A437 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9777343D55 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 11365 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jan 2006 00:50:31 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 00:50:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <3f1760601171431w3e97636fo@mail.gmail.com> References: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060117222555.GA21956@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <3f1760601171431w3e97636fo@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B63BC1C-4926-45BC-84B9-A884B2AD1180@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:50:29 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:50:32 -0000 On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Dick Davies wrote: > On 17/01/06, David Kelly wrote: > >> Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the >> tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. >> Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa. > > > Danger Will Robinson! The GPL can make Linux -> FreeBSD > copying^W inspiration very tricksy indeed. Its a road already traveled. See: /usr/src/sys/gnu/dev/sound/pci/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 01:04:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D821316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5162143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E631A3C20; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D5345154A; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:04:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:04:18 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Barnett Message-ID: <20060118010418.GA95598@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:22 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:47:30PM -0600, Michael Barnett wrote: > I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half =20 > terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on these =20 > boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is all these =20 > boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. AFAIK mysql runs fine on amd64, so what was your problem with it? Kris --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzZQSWry0BWjoQKURApghAJ9Cm2xg9Rd+vRbTh1rEaND57gjbcACfZRvz Wf+OmQW2xECR5iO43FBEexE= =ks1x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 01:04:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF0316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27D243D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82536131E40; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:34:27 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DAB856BB; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:34:27 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:34:27 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Bob Johnson Message-ID: <20060118010427.GD76105@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <20060117180138.T52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> <54db43990601171038r33d706f0p6e19612110105e75@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C94crkcyjafcjHxo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990601171038r33d706f0p6e19612110105e75@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:04:29 -0000 --C94crkcyjafcjHxo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 13:38:39 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 1/17/06, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> TO JEST ANGIELSKA LISTA MAILOWA. POSZUKAJ POLSKIEJ >> >> This is english mailing list, not Polish. >> > > Historically, this has not been an English-only list. Questions in > any language have been welcome on this list for the nine years that I > have subscribed. Why people suddenly believe this has become an > English-only list is a mystery to me. Perhaps one of you xenophobes > can explain it to me? Simple: you misunderstand. Over the eleven years I've been on this list, I've seen a handful of foreign-language messages. Everyone has prompted a "please write in English" response. > Why does it bother you so much to see someone post in a language you > cannot read? Why can't you just ignore it, just as you ignore other > questions that you aren't able to answer? It's a question of signal to noise ratio. It also doesn't help the sender as much as sending it to the correct list. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --C94crkcyjafcjHxo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzZQbIubykFB6QiMRApWDAJ46Jg8CDeOy/995Nv7DYj11xPoU3wCgmxTJ DzQI4XNF6+/sPAKRljjw/Os= =dXpt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C94crkcyjafcjHxo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 02:38:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA76016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDB643D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from [172.16.1.3] (cpe-70-112-96-145.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.96.145]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0I2cEH9006140 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:38:14 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060118010418.GA95598@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> <20060118010418.GA95598@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F01FAC2-09A7-47EC-AB05-B75564FC2433@measuremap.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Barnett Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:38:08 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:38:18 -0000 It ran fine when we were only throwing a few dozen qps at it... when we tried to throw about 350qps its way, it was much much slower... slower than our existing server with significantly fewer resources available. I never could figure out what the issue was... tried recompiling with different options, allocating more and less memory to mysql (really to innodb as all our tables are innodb), and a number of system tweaks to no avail. Are you running it on an opteron, or on a xeon? I have heard things go much smoother on AMD hardware. Anyways.. the damage is done. We are back on i386 and I just need to make it go! Right now i am just running with the stable non-PAE kernel that limits access to 4G of memory while i work this out. -m On Jan 17, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:47:30PM -0600, Michael Barnett wrote: >> I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half >> terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on these >> boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is all these >> boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. > > AFAIK mysql runs fine on amd64, so what was your problem with it? > > Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 02:39:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37B943D6D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:39:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 138858043 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:39:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 32155 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 02:39:00 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 02:39:00 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43CDAA42.9090702@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:58 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT References: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: konsole font size and colour ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:39:15 -0000 Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > hi again, > the question was about boot screen font size and colour. > to be more clear, i copied the line from debian's grub.conf > [/boot/grub/menu.lst] > > >kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=792 > "vga=792" changes the font size seen at boot screen. > [this part not included in default installation. i added this later when > i learnt.] > so all i want to learn : how can i do the same for freebsd ? > firstly > where to add this "vga=792" ? [no /boot/grub/menu.lst in > freebsd!] > secondly > does this will do the same for freebsd too ? or i have to add > something else ? > bye. You're not talking about grub OR konsole. You're talking about changing the resolution of the system console. I can't help you much, because I spend most of my time in a GUI's terminal emulator, not at the system console. It has been discussed on the list several times in the past few months. Google turns up a few hits with "freebsd console resolution" which would point you to man vidcontrol. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:00:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B739716A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:00:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6500D43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:00:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from eisenhower.ascendency.net ([67.173.128.145]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011803000101300dc219e>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:00:01 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (ipcop.localdomain [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by eisenhower.ascendency.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0I300xx053337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:02 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c61bdb$475294e0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcYb20Z9ohIoEdl4RwmCIJ0eeL2bWw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (eisenhower.ascendency.net [192.168.1.22]); Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:00:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: USB removable drive as dump device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:00:02 -0000 Using 6.0-RELEASE I'm trying to use a USB removable drive as a dump device. The device is recognized and working corectly: Jan 17 18:12:55 eisenhower kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jan 17 18:12:55 eisenhower kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device Jan 17 18:12:55 eisenhower kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Jan 17 18:12:55 eisenhower kernel: da0: 156334MB (320173056 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19929C) These are the commands I used to create the device: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1k count=1 # bsdlabel -Bw da0 auto # bsdlabel -e da0 # newfs -d0 /dev/da0a # mkdir -p /backup # vi /etc/fstab # added an entry for /dev/da0a # mount /backup The device mounts correctly and I can write to /backup without problems. The issue is when I try to dump to the device: # dump 0uafL /dev/da0 / DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Jan 17 19:04:22 2006 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ar0s1a (/) to /dev/da0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 79952 tape blocks. DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/da0". DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") no DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. The same thing happens with: # dump 0uafL /backup / Any ideas? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:25:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51A716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:25:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038B43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:25:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1Ez3wf37ie-0007EF; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:25:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:25:57 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Subject: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:25:16 -0000 Hi! OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 When I start a # portupgrade -a up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else seen this? Regards, Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:26:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF8E16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:26:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCD943D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:26:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D41D1A3C1B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2CD4654A46; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:26:05 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Barnett Message-ID: <20060118032604.GA97030@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> <20060118010418.GA95598@xor.obsecurity.org> <0F01FAC2-09A7-47EC-AB05-B75564FC2433@measuremap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0F01FAC2-09A7-47EC-AB05-B75564FC2433@measuremap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:26:09 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:38:08PM -0600, Michael Barnett wrote: > It ran fine when we were only throwing a few dozen qps at it... when =20 > we tried to throw about 350qps its way, it was much much slower... =20 > slower than our existing server with significantly fewer resources =20 > available. >=20 > I never could figure out what the issue was... tried recompiling with =20 > different options, allocating more and less memory to mysql (really =20 > to innodb as all our tables are innodb), and a number of system =20 > tweaks to no avail. >=20 > Are you running it on an opteron, or on a xeon? I have heard things =20 > go much smoother on AMD hardware. I've used it for mysql benchmarking (using supersmack) on amd hardware and got quite good performance from it. I've not used it with a 'real' database on that machine. > Anyways.. the damage is done. We are back on i386 and I just need to =20 > make it go! Right now i am just running with the stable non-PAE =20 > kernel that limits access to 4G of memory while i work this out. It could be a driver issue, although since you're not adding drivers to the PAE config I don't know why this would be. Still, you could post your dmesg so that someone might be able to recognize a problem. Try looking for an updated BIOS. It could be that your HW has a buggy implementation. Kris --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzbVMWry0BWjoQKURAqioAJ45gI8QyE/SVImVVCFky36NTCN4ugCbBrmG kGmAfb732LVB6vMdK7TQXZU= =3kcb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:35:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sumardi@citrag.co.id) Received: from asav1.indosat.net.id (mx10a.indosat.net.id [202.155.50.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C4043D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sumardi@citrag.co.id) Received: from sasser (219.83.22.184) by asav1.indosat.net.id (7.2.062.3) id 43C8889E0014E3C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:40:27 +0700 Message-ID: <006201c61bde$635a4db0$ea00a8c0@sasser> From: "sumardi" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:22:18 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: driver DELL PERC3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:35:33 -0000 Dear all, I have DELL PowerEdge 8450 Server that act as Mail-Server, using onboard = SCSI for HDD controller.Now i want to upgrade the Storage hardware to = RAID, using DELL PERC3/DC, also known as LSI Logic Elite 1600. Can anybody tell me, how to do that without reinstalling?? in linux, = i've tried by Ghost(copy image) all the entire system, and reinstalling = GRUB + initrd to boot from the new RAID controller, and it really works = well. But i still can't find the PERC3/DC driver for FreeBSD 4.11 and didn't = sure will this work. Please help me, how to do that. Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:38:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C9C43D6B for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 139969287 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:38:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 10896 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 03:38:12 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 03:38:12 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43CDB822.8010609@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:38:10 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Creating alternate passwd file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:38:17 -0000 I'm trying to create a master.passwd file that I can crack as part of a demo for an IAS class. I don't want to muck about with my live master.passwd or even a copy of it, since the passwords there take too long to crack. I tried copying /usr/src/etc/master.passwd and /usr/src/etc/group to and empty folder called /root/crackdemo/ I then did: pw -V /root/crackdemo/ usermod root -h 0 new password for user root: secret pw: user 'root' does not exist (NIS?) I then tried: pwd_mkdb -d /root/crackdemo/ master.passwd pw -V /root/crackdemo/ usermod root -h 0 new password for user root: secret pw: user 'root' does not exist (NIS?) What did I do wrong? Any suggestions? Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 03:53:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF416A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfalconer@puc.edu) Received: from ecf.puc.edu (ecf2.puc.edu [12.16.216.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E3543D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:53:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfalconer@puc.edu) Received: from localhost (jfalconer@localhost) by ecf.puc.edu (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id k0I3ruX23676 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:53:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Falconer To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: sendmail, sasl, ldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:53:59 -0000 Greetings, I'm trying to implement authenticated sending of email. But I want sasl to authenticate against my LDAP server. The how-to in the FreeBSD handbook is good but assumes only local authentication. The cyrus-sasl2 and openldap ports give hints that it is possible, but I'm just not quite getting it. Are there other how-to sites that others have used successfully? Do I need to use PAM or does cyrus-sasl know how to directly query an LDAP server? I'm running a fresh FreeBSD 6.0-Release system. TIA, Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:08:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005A416A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADC2B43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 94166 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 04:08:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.123.227.253 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 04:08:13 -0000 Message-ID: <43CDBF2A.7040400@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:08:10 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: generating new passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:08:15 -0000 Is there a command in FreeBSD 5.4 that will assign a specified user a new password without having to create one manually using passwd? Is there also a way to generate new passwords for multiple users at once? Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:16:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC1816A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from stjohn.ac.th (ns.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C8343D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:16:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from tulip.stjohn.ac.th [203.151.134.104] by stjohn.ac.th with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.21) id A12207C4; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:16:34 +0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20060118110501.00aa95a8@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: 2-server.international.stjohn.ac.th:mcrogerm@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:16:34 +0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Roger Merritt In-Reply-To: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:16:39 -0000 At 04:25 AM 1/18/2006 +0100, you wrote: >Hi! > >OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running >6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 > >When I start a > > # portupgrade -a > >up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: > > make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily > unavailable > >and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else seen this? Yes. I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a PII 300MHz with 64MB RAM and a 40GB hard drive. It works great until I run portupgrade on mysql-server. Then it runs out of swap space and I get console error messages and have to reboot. I haven't dug into it yet, but several months ago I redirected the swap file to a different location to increase the size. I'll have to do some research to find out exactly what I did and how much space I gave it and how to increase it. I haven't had time yet to do it. Don't know why building mysql-* (and possibly some others) takes so much swap space. I first encountered it running portmanager -u and didn't realize for a couple of days (and four or five freeze-ups) what was happening. -- Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:20:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB8B16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:20:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3EBE43D5D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:20:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 83759 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 04:20:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vml+WjAd+/pW+dV0MqVyWGgteo/t2lPAZdp6VFNTY7K7zv+5Sez/6WVMs7R3rSuSYVxVnLy+fHPUPhqsot8UA/pyZU4+Y47yny6iNwtu7KrwUYoQXhAB6D81YGLYijSB72OR8MlbfOOemTuHQjTcrHpdy8t9eyWEgBfIImvFvq8= ; Message-ID: <20060118042002.83752.qmail@web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.141.136.121] by web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:20:02 PST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:20:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jose Jesus Ortega To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:20:04 -0000 I installed freeBSD 6.0 on my pc and kde but starting "startx" will only display a small part of the whole screen. I tried configuring the X11 but when I add the "HorizSync" at 30-107 and "VertRefresh" at 48-120 the screen only diplays colors. How do I make it make kde appear with the whole screen? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:23:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C7D16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com (wolf.pjkh.com [66.228.196.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3643D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92548172D3; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08683-06; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2C55172A7; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2C5172A5; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Jose Borquez In-Reply-To: <43CDBF2A.7040400@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20060117202240.E9291@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <43CDBF2A.7040400@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pjkh.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: generating new passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:23:49 -0000 > Is there a command in FreeBSD 5.4 that will assign a specified user a new > password without having to create one manually using passwd? Is there also a > way to generate new passwords for multiple users at once? man pw ... -h fd This option provides a special interface by which interac- tive scripts can set an account password using pw. Because the command line and environment are fundamentally insecure mechanisms by which programs can accept information, pw will only allow setting of account and group passwords via a file descriptor (usually a pipe between an interactive script and the program). sh, bash, ksh and perl all pos- sess mechanisms by which this can be done. Alternatively, pw will prompt for the user's password if -h 0 is given, nominating stdin as the file descriptor on which to read the password. Note that this password will be read only once and is intended for use by a script rather than for interactive use. If you wish to have new password confir- mation along the lines of passwd(1), this must be imple- mented as part of an interactive script that calls pw. If a value of `-' is given as the argument fd, then the password will be set to `*', rendering the account inacces- sible via password-based login. -H fd Read an encrypted password string from the specified file descriptor. This is like -h, but the password should be supplied already encrypted in a form suitable for writing directly to the password database. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:31:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F35B16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay2.av-mx.com (relay2.av-mx.com [137.118.16.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9C343D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay2.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 141457834 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:31:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 22149 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 04:31:29 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 04:31:29 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43CDC49F.3060203@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:31:27 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freeBSD References: <43CDB822.8010609@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <43CDB822.8010609@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Creating alternate passwd file (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:31:33 -0000 Micah wrote: > > I'm trying to create a master.passwd file that I can crack as part of a > demo for an IAS class. I don't want to muck about with my live > master.passwd or even a copy of it, since the passwords there take too > long to crack. > > I tried copying /usr/src/etc/master.passwd and /usr/src/etc/group to and > empty folder called /root/crackdemo/ I then did: > pw -V /root/crackdemo/ usermod root -h 0 > new password for user root: secret > pw: user 'root' does not exist (NIS?) > > I then tried: > pwd_mkdb -d /root/crackdemo/ master.passwd > pw -V /root/crackdemo/ usermod root -h 0 > new password for user root: secret > pw: user 'root' does not exist (NIS?) > > What did I do wrong? Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Micah Shows what taking a few minute break will do. I did a pwd_mkdb -d /root/crackdemo/ -p master.passwd, (I added the -p flag) and now pw works with it. Now on to making some users with stupid passwords. Sorry for the noise, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:39:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E0943D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1175269wxc for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:39:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FByhQ2l9ggNgOq2o3pkQq2R2gMMlB8fESZO1hCyrS86cLDEEjQIsdYVXdGp6HmnszQUm/ZZadzA6W/x14XUp7NhUdxpzjs4GHeRdoPx9EUK96twBIlvbajoFiKEAv3cAv7zwbphiqfzynW+hONOcmGR4YnAPsBGe7jj1sMjsiDc= Received: by 10.70.47.17 with SMTP id u17mr10451158wxu; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:39:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:39:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:39:41 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <43CCC3C8.32366.1D8376F7@jdunham.texas.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <54db43990601170709g57b2e366u3c8d3ab6799e6c75@mail.gmail.com> <43CCC3C8.32366.1D8376F7@jdunham.texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:39:42 -0000 On 1/17/06, Jerry Dunham wrote: > > man Klingons No manual entry for Klingons they hate it when you try that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:46:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F3116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BFF43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I4kmC5001241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:46:49 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.23] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0I4kmss019050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:46:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2BD0EE28-977B-4805-B505-3910B75CAFB4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Garrett Cooper Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:47:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: FreeBSD and the Mexican jumping drive assignments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:46:51 -0000 Hello, I was wondering if there was any way where I could make my SCSI drive /dev assignments static because they always seem to change after rebooting the system, which is annoying for filesharing purposes, especially when I expect data to be on drive da0, but it ends up being on da2. Here's my info: root@hoover# uname -a FreeBSD hoover.localdomain 6.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p1 #10: Sun Jan 8 08:54:44 PST 2006 root@hoover.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/ src/sys/HOOVER i386 root@hoover# dmesg #[snip] ahc0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xd9904000-0xd9904fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] #[snip] da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 34732MB (71132960 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 70007MB (143374741 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 34732MB (71132960 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4427C) Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 04:54:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCB716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elimited@lycos.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing2.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF97843D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elimited@lycos.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 762B618001A0 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.32) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 -0000 Received: by ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7ECF63384B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "J oberweith" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 +0000 Received: from [69.179.59.174] by ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com with http for elimited@lycos.com; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:23 +0000 X-Originating-Ip: 69.179.59.174 X-Originating-Server: ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060118045423.7ECF63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: boot process failure (/boot.config, boot2, loader) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:54:24 -0000 Booting problem... I have installed FreeBSD 6.0 on my little Pentium III box. My problem start= ed when I was trying to have it boot ACPI enabled by default (now, of cours= e, I know about the loader.conf control file). Anyway, I read another post stating that all I needed to do was put the boo= t option into /boot.config, so I make a /boot.config file with the number 2= in it (for the second boot option which has ACPI enabled) and reboot. Now during boot it stops in (apparently) boot2 with: Free BSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)2 boot: If I type "?" to see what commands may be allowed I get: ?. .. .snap dev tmp usr var home etc cdrom dist bin boot lib libexec mnt pr= oc rescue root sbin sys .cshrc .profile COPYRIGHT compat entropy boot.config No matter which of these commands I type it just puts it in place of the "2= " above: enter: root comes back with: Default: 0:ad(0,a)root So I have apparently broke the boot process with my "2" in /boot.config, bu= t according to the manual I should be able to find files on my system, etc = (maybe even delete /boot.config for example). But no matter what I type in for a command it just eats it making a new "De= fault:" line.=20 Any ideas on how to use the boot2 system to find/edit/remove the /boot.conf= ig file? Or maybe to just tell the boot2 process to ignore /boot.config? Thanks! Garrett --=20 _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pa= ges http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.as= p?SRC=3Dlycos10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:06:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C1A16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:06:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3643843D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:06:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399C14DDAE; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:06:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:14:34 -0600 From: "Z.C.B." To: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT Message-ID: <20060117231434.2a122d6f@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:06:28 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:32:30 +0200 Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? > [high definition audio :p] > changing the topic ;) > missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont > even know if they still work :p] Try OSS. No clue if the chipset is support, but it is worth a shot. Also that is why I all am picky when picking hardware. I do agree with Matze though. FreeBSD makes a truely awesome multimedia experience. I've not seen any thing as impressive as FreeBSD running fluxbox, the nvidia driver, and and xdesktopwaves. It is pleasantly and graphically pleasing from all perspectives. I use FreeBSD for everything but running a few games and it does all I need nicely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:19:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428A16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:19:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7A043D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:19:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1Ez5jV0A82-00073f; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:19:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:23:50 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Roger Merritt In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20060118110501.00aa95a8@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <20060118061411.K884@www.pukruppa.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20060118110501.00aa95a8@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:19:48 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Roger Merritt wrote: > At 04:25 AM 1/18/2006 +0100, you wrote: >> Hi! >> >> OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running >> 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 >> >> When I start a >> >> # portupgrade -a >> >> up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: >> >> make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily >> unavailable >> >> and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else seen this? > > Yes. I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a PII 300MHz with 64MB RAM and a 40GB hard > drive. It works great until I run portupgrade on mysql-server. Then it runs > out of swap space and I get console error messages and have to reboot. I > haven't dug into it yet, but several months ago I redirected the swap file to > a different location to increase the size. I'll have to do some research to > find out exactly what I did and how much space I gave it and how to increase > it. I haven't had time yet to do it. Don't know why building mysql-* (and > possibly some others) takes so much swap space. I first encountered it > running portmanager -u and didn't realize for a couple of days (and four or > five freeze-ups) what was happening. > This really has become more dramatic: Usually - when I run a portupgrade - about half of my RAM is used and I can still work on my Gnome desktop without any swapping or serious performance losses. Now every port produces this Max recursion message and applications become unusable. Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:21:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9E16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E37B43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24EC1A3C1B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A29355154A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:21:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:21:56 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:21:58 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:25:57AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > Hi! >=20 > OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running > 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 >=20 > When I start a >=20 > # portupgrade -a >=20 > up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: >=20 > make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily > unavailable >=20 > and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else=20 > seen this? You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or some other USE_*. Kris --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzdB0Wry0BWjoQKURAgRDAJ468jJsfGaF9jSm2b1SYCL0EEPEPwCfQRnr RWJ7nX+diiqf/LILKYjAGCo= =69iY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:35:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD6216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3C143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id k0I5Z103027123; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:35:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:35:01 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20060118053500.GF10326@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2BD0EE28-977B-4805-B505-3910B75CAFB4@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2BD0EE28-977B-4805-B505-3910B75CAFB4@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the Mexican jumping drive assignments X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:35:02 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 17), Garrett Cooper said: > Hello, > I was wondering if there was any way where I could make my SCSI > drive /dev assignments static because they always seem to change > after rebooting the system, which is annoying for filesharing > purposes, especially when I expect data to be on drive da0, but it > ends up being on da2. > > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 Two options. If you don't care about what name a disk is as long as you can locate its filesystems, you can label your filesystems with tunefs and then load the glabel module. Entries will appear under /dev/ufs and /dev/msdosfs for filesystems that have names, and you can put those entries in your fstab. If your boot disk is one of the ones that shuffles around, of if you want the disk names to stay constant for other reasons, you can wire down devices in /boot/device.hints to appear at specific places (documented in the scbus manpage): hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="1" etc. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:38:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838FF16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:38:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B3B43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:38:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AFB14DCBE; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:38:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:46:50 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Tamouh H." Message-ID: <20060117234650.29ba9af0@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <3040838B-3C5C-4505-926F-524ABE1B6B15@shire.net> <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Free BSD Questions list' Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:38:43 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:26 -0500 "Tamouh H." wrote: > > > > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > > > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as > > well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card > > in my G5, and they work, but with weird side effects like > > hanging IO. My dad had some sound card issues on Windows > > with "supported" cards. > > > > Chad > > > > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. > > Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an > absurd suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not > matured yet to compete with Microsoft. It is easily good enought to compete with Microsoft. Most hardware out there is generally crappy and low end and that does not change regardless of OS. I say it is a good suggestion if they bought the hardware, without checking what is supported. > If you are looking for compatibility, Windows is the answer. > > You are looking for security and stable releases, FreeBSD is the > answer > > If you are seeking *free* OS with largest compatibility, Linux is > the answer With the list that FreeBSD supports I've rarely found it a problem to find hardware that works nicely. > If you are seeking performance, FreeBSD is the answer. > > Windows almost runs everything, FreeBSD is stable, good performance > but it is behind Linux when it comes to releasing drivers (example, > zero-channel RAID cards weren't supported until very recently and > still not quite official). The Linux OS has a much larger community > than FreeBSD and hence has more development in it. Larger, but I am not really seeing any thing that interesting going on it. > In my opinion, I think the Unix world had missed the boat on trying > to take over MSFT. The new Windows coming out are as stable as the > Unix servers. With the Vista Windows, and a dramatic reduction of > GUI, you can expect much better OS. When was FreeBSD trying to take over MSFT? That really seems more likely something assorted linux projects were trying to do by making those OS idiot proof. > Unix community simply did not get their act together and try to > build an OS for the masses. The main argument for Unix is it is > "Free", but compatibility and upgrade paths are different issues. I've never had any compatibility problems or problems with upgrade paths with FreeBSD. Any one that bases hardware decisions on what what has most support is going to screw themselves, if they think they can go that route so they can buy any thing. Yes, you can run nearly any thing with XP, but if you don't pay close attention to what you buy, it is still going to majorly suck. Open source unix is not a OS for the masses, but one for those who need it and want it. I use it because all around it is more economical for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:49:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C280116A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0772F43D4C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:49:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2ov-1Ez6CC17QK-0000bb; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:49:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:54:39 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:49:26 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:25:57AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: >> Hi! >> >> OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running >> 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 >> >> When I start a >> >> # portupgrade -a >> >> up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: >> >> make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily >> unavailable >> >> and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else >> seen this? > > You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment > that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > some other USE_*. That could be a hint. I can find legal options in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk can I ? Uli. > > Kris > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:53:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3521716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9F243D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Ez6GP-000PIb-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:53:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <20060118010427.GD76105@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <20060117180138.T52750@chylonia.3miasto.net> <54db43990601171038r33d706f0p6e19612110105e75@mail.gmail.com> <20060118010427.GD76105@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1A10B8B1-A845-4C86-91E7-836E795FEE6A@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:53:44 -0700 To: Free BSD Questions list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:53:47 -0000 > On Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 13:38:39 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: >> On 1/17/06, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> TO JEST ANGIELSKA LISTA MAILOWA. POSZUKAJ POLSKIEJ >>> >>> This is english mailing list, not Polish. >>> >> >> Historically, this has not been an English-only list. Questions in >> any language have been welcome on this list for the nine years that I >> have subscribed. Why people suddenly believe this has become an >> English-only list is a mystery to me. Perhaps one of you xenophobes >> can explain it to me? I think you need to look up the word "xenophobe" There is nothing in having an english-language-only list that fits the definition. > > >> Why does it bother you so much to see someone post in a language you >> cannot read? Why can't you just ignore it, just as you ignore other >> questions that you aren't able to answer? > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 05:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A3416A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54DD43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8141D1A3C1E; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D67754A1B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:55:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:55:10 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:55:12 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:54:39AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:25:57AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >>Hi! > >> > >>OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running > >>6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 > >> > >>When I start a > >> > >> # portupgrade -a > >> > >>up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: > >> > >> make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily > >> unavailable > >> > >>and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else > >>seen this? > > > >You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment > >that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > >some other USE_*. > That could be a hint. I can find legal options in > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > can I ? Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific port makefiles (like USE_*). Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. Kris --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzdg9Wry0BWjoQKURAl8mAKDfB4w+DR3BWNH5o1outk4nEhF29wCgv2Eb 6TYhInuIENdoQMx864BCwQY= =GzJU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 06:05:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4714016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCF143D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Ez6Rx-000PoS-2l; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:05:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20060117220235.5886D43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:05:40 -0700 To: Tamouh H. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: 'Free BSD Questions list' Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:05:42 -0000 On Jan 17, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Tamouh H. wrote: > > >> Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof >> inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by >> FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ >> >> Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as >> well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card >> in my G5, and they work, but with weird side effects like >> hanging IO. My dad had some sound card issues on Windows >> with "supported" cards. >> >> Chad >> > > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. > > Getting a different card is not the solution. It is actually an absurd > suggestion which goes to prove further that Unix has not matured > yet to > compete with Microsoft. You misunderstood what I said. Sure there are lots of sound cards out there for Windows and they are ALL "compatible" as Windows is the target that they are all developed against. My point was that Windows drivers often don't work the way they are advertised, or require a specific version of Windows that is 5 years old, or are not that stable. The problem of not having a driver for your specific version of Windows or having an unstable driver exists on Windows just like it exists on FreeBSD. There may be more choices on Windows but that doesn't mean you don't have problems with HW and drivers. Just ask my dad. He has had to rebuild his Windows machine a few times (software reinstall) when things get totally screwed up and a wrong driver gets installed by accident and hoses everything and it won't boot at all and the repair disks won't repair it. > > If you are looking for compatibility, Windows is the answer. Compatibility with what? All my HW is FreeBSD compatible. --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 06:11:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B54C16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:11:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD3143D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu9) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1Ez6Xn0K5k-00015U; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:11:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:17:32 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:11:45 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> >>> You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment >>> that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or >>> some other USE_*. >> That could be a hint. I can find legal options in >> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk >> can I ? > > Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific > port makefiles (like USE_*). > > Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. This is it: ---------------------------------------- X_WINDOW_SYSTEM= xorg CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes NO_LPR=yes # WITH_FAM= yes USE_FAM=yes WITH_LAME= yes WITH_APACHE2= yes OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=rh-9 # added by use.perl 2005-12-26 20:43:23 PERL_VER=5.8.7 PERL_VERSION=5.8.7 ------------------------------------------------------- Uli. > > Kris > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 06:16:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2E816A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55E743D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:16:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BFC1A3C1B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CA89454A42; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:16:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:16:56 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:16:58 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:17:32AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >>> > >>>You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment > >>>that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > >>>some other USE_*. > >>That could be a hint. I can find legal options in > >> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > >>can I ? > > > >Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific > >port makefiles (like USE_*). > > > >Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. > This is it: > ---------------------------------------- > X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=3D xorg >=20 > CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=3Dyes > NO_LPR=3Dyes >=20 > # WITH_FAM=3D yes > USE_FAM=3Dyes As I said, USE_* are illegal here and cause recursion. Kris --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzd1YWry0BWjoQKURAuxPAKC6iJ35qTDjS7Qhkd17hn2MkQ0WQQCg5aEL c3rMr+Vi9sWSRHE59uU1GHA= =Absb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 06:44:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122CA16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:44:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF4043D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:44:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1Ez73O27Ts-0001Gw; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:44:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:51:12 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060118075010.J884@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:44:27 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:17:32AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>> You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment >>>>> that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or >>>>> some other USE_*. >>>> That could be a hint. I can find legal options in >>>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk >>>> can I ? >>> >>> Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific >>> port makefiles (like USE_*). >>> >>> Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. >> This is it: >> ---------------------------------------- >> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM= xorg >> >> CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes >> NO_LPR=yes >> >> # WITH_FAM= yes >> USE_FAM=yes > > As I said, USE_* are illegal here and cause recursion. > > Kris > Thanks, I'll ask freebsd-gnome about that. Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 06:47:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15F816A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:47:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011F743D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D201A3C23; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C4F8252B65; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:47:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:47:14 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060118064714.GA242@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118075010.J884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118075010.J884@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:47:22 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:51:12AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:17:32AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >>>>>You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment > >>>>>that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > >>>>>some other USE_*. > >>>>That could be a hint. I can find legal options in > >>>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > >>>>can I ? > >>> > >>>Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific > >>>port makefiles (like USE_*). > >>> > >>>Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. > >>This is it: > >> ---------------------------------------- > >>X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=3D xorg > >> > >>CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=3Dyes > >>NO_LPR=3Dyes > >> > >># WITH_FAM=3D yes > >>USE_FAM=3Dyes > > > >As I said, USE_* are illegal here and cause recursion. > > > >Kris > > > Thanks, I'll ask freebsd-gnome about that. What's to ask? They'll tell you the same thing I did. Kris --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzeRyWry0BWjoQKURAhqjAJ4hHX3ScfsV/8xTz655wtawd//IeQCg4cwM sCKhMabt9i5+/FbLFOMNNMg= =eJ4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:05:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4233216A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:05:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F00743D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2Dk-1Ez7NZ1fT7-0005w4; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:05:14 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:12:49 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20060118064714.GA242@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20060118080621.Q884@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118075010.J884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118064714.GA242@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:05:17 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:51:12AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:17:32AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: >>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment >>>>>>> that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or >>>>>>> some other USE_*. >>>>>> That could be a hint. I can find legal options in >>>>>> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk >>>>>> can I ? >>>>> >>>>> Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific >>>>> port makefiles (like USE_*). >>>>> >>>>> Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. >>>> This is it: >>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM= xorg >>>> >>>> CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes >>>> NO_LPR=yes >>>> >>>> # WITH_FAM= yes >>>> USE_FAM=yes >>> >>> As I said, USE_* are illegal here and cause recursion. >>> >>> Kris >>> >> Thanks, I'll ask freebsd-gnome about that. > > What's to ask? They'll tell you the same thing I did. It seems, they are substituting fam by gamin for gnome 2.14 . Obviously I gathered the wrong make.conf settings for that from some mail archieve. Since they are nice and patient people, they will probably give me the right ones :-) Uli. > > Kris > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:10:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBBA16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwincheese@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6290943D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwincheese@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so102908wra for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:10:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QmmfbZvl7XYpWwrraOgDs8nmwjs1uzZeJindv/DWAh3CRHRah2OIB1UuKy/AEgzttI3Zjqnx+xef+q5UG6Fn795NgsCIMpqgEd+KAEpMmswOSd5znzP7fwkrv8vT+2iFBATtEdhQolL65wa2TRzg2pnoOIdlaAxC7gqUiUMMRF4= Received: by 10.54.80.14 with SMTP id d14mr659622wrb; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.109.2 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:10:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3593bee50601172310y24c0310bx5a32b07d070f2174@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:10:07 +0800 From: Edwin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ps "Bus error" under jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:09 -0000 Hi, The machine is running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and i am trying out jails on it I have followed the tutorial in jail's man page and everythings seems working fine, except the ps command. When I execute ps, it say "Bus error" Here is the gdb output: GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you ar= e welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `ps'. Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libkvm.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done= . Loaded symbols for /lib/libkvm.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...= done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x28092398 in _kvm_initvtop () from /lib/libkvm.so.3 (gdb) backtrace #0 0x28092398 in _kvm_initvtop () from /lib/libkvm.so.3 Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfdc6c Thanks Edwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:11:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999CF16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9002143D58 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=admin) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1Ez7T8-0002u0-E6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:58 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20060118001911.0067816A436@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:10:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:11:00 -0000 *Some* reasonable and balanced points for a questions list :) My laptop distro www.zenwalk.org My rack server www.trustix.org My webserver www.freebsd.org (of course:) For very boring locked in accounts work W2K Using the appropraite tool for the job seems to be the best advice I have had on this list :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:14:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F4F16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23143D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-169-24.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.24]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E404B288; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:23:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8EC5285B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:12:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CDEAC3.5030701@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:14:11 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: J oberweith References: <20060118045423.7ECF63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20060118045423.7ECF63384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot process failure (/boot.config, boot2, loader) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:14:06 -0000 J oberweith schrieb: > [...] > > Now during boot it stops in (apparently) boot2 with: > > Free BSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)2 > boot: > > [...] > > Any ideas on how to use the boot2 system to find/edit/remove the /boot.config file? You can't. > Or maybe to just tell the boot2 process to ignore /boot.config? As far as I know you can't either. But try "/boot/loader" instead of "2" or "root" ;-) Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:19:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708DC16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1F543D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E314E1A3C1B; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF024528D4; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:19:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:19:32 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "P.U.Kruppa" Message-ID: <20060118071932.GA914@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118071126.B884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118061656.GA99517@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118075010.J884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118064714.GA242@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118080621.Q884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118080621.Q884@www.pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:19:34 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 08:12:49AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:51:12AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:17:32AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >>>>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environme= nt > >>>>>>>that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > >>>>>>>some other USE_*. > >>>>>>That could be a hint. I can find legal options in > >>>>>>/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > >>>>>>can I ? > >>>>> > >>>>>Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specif= ic > >>>>>port makefiles (like USE_*). > >>>>> > >>>>>Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wro= ng. > >>>>This is it: > >>>> ---------------------------------------- > >>>>X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=3D xorg > >>>> > >>>>CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=3Dyes > >>>>NO_LPR=3Dyes > >>>> > >>>># WITH_FAM=3D yes > >>>>USE_FAM=3Dyes > >>> > >>>As I said, USE_* are illegal here and cause recursion. > >>> > >>>Kris > >>> > >>Thanks, I'll ask freebsd-gnome about that. > > > >What's to ask? They'll tell you the same thing I did. > It seems, they are substituting fam by gamin for gnome 2.14 .=20 > Obviously I gathered the wrong make.conf settings for that from=20 > some mail archieve. Since they are nice and patient people, they=20 > will probably give me the right ones :-) Surely WITH_FAM is what you meant. Kris --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzewEWry0BWjoQKURAl/IAKC2t+9ZGk+HsKQ38nbFs0rAgZEE5QCg1D+l RExFy/ZGjOxsn1yK2W9SGyY= =5Srt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:37:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:37:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from mail.cambotech.com (mail.cambotech.com [202.131.80.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C303F43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA73E73AF for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:48 +0700 (ICT) Received: from mail.cambotech.com ([202.131.80.9]) by localhost (mail.cambotech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03532-04 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:38 +0700 (ICT) Received: from ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net (ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net [202.131.84.170]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9456E73AD for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: from pc0001 (pc0001.ygm.com.kh [192.168.1.111]) by ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id k0I1a7CJ000995 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:36:19 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Message-ID: <005001c61bd1$333194c0$6f01a8c0@ygm.com.kh> From: "Rithy- System Engineer" To: References: <20060117120029.B5F1A16A422@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:09 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cambotech.com Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:37:14 -0000 I got FreeBSD 5.3 release installed on my Server but its hard disk and mainboard are too old and i want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0 with new hard disk on the same PC how can i do this? is it necessary to install any third-party hardware or software? Rithy Ray System Engineer KhmerServer.NET Hosting E-mail: rithy_ray@khmerserver.net sales@rithy4u.net info@khmercentral.com URL: www.rithy4u.net www.khmerserver.net www.khmercentral.com H/P: +855-12-403-001 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 > Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? (Robert Slade) > 2. Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 (Crispy Beef) > 3. Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 (Evandro Sestrem) > 4. Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 (Uncle Deejy-Pooh) > 5. Re: Setting up lpd on *BSD (ivan.roth@free.fr) > 6. syslog logging recommendation (Bill Schmitt (SW)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:06 +0000 > From: Robert Slade > Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? > To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Message-ID: <1137487746.12144.34.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:36, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Gregory Nou wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to > > >> install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do > > >> as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and > > >> downloading them ... > > >> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? > > >> thanks ... > > >> ---- > > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// > > >> www.hub.org) > > >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy > > >> ICQ: 7615664 > > >> > > > look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND > > > UPGRADE OPTIONS. > > > Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed > > > me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is > > > a GUI for rpm. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Gregory > > > > Actually yum's a means for updating that's meant to replace the > > Redhat Network Tool or whatever it was called back in RH9.0 and RHE, > > which comes as primarily a command line tool I thought. As far as I > > know is only available for Fedora-a product primarily made for > > desktop users made by Redhat. > > -Garrett > > To clear up a couple of points: YUM is a Redhat tool but is a command > line one. It works on all Redhat derived systems not just Fedora. BTW > Fedora is not made by Redhat but is sponsored by them - they use it as a > test platform. > > What I don't understand why the OP is installing Linux Apachie2 from > rpms when there is a perfectly good port for BSD which handles the > dependencies and the different locations of files, scripts etc. > > Rob > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:03 +0000 > From: Crispy Beef > Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 > To: Mike Hernandez > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <43CCC1C7.2060405@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >>| hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. > >>| DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when > >>| plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me > > > > > > I get that too with the 30GB iPod I just bought. I think there's an issue > > preventing new iPods from working with FreeBSD. I even formatted mine > > for windows since it's easier to read vfat rather than HFS. Still nothing. > > If you get your nano workin please let me know :) > > I'll ask my friend what he did to get his working, not sure which iPod he has > exactly either, could well be a difference in the models or something like that. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:40:26 -0300 > From: "Evandro Sestrem" > Subject: Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello, > > I'm trying compile a project using Lua 5.0 (www.lua.org) in FreePascal > (2.0.2 [2005/11/17] for i386) in a FreeBSD 4.1. > > The Lua 5.0 is correctly installed. > > It compiles ok, but when it is linking I got these errors: > > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sin': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x52): undefined reference to 'sin' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_cos': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to 'cos' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_tan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0xca): undefined reference to 'tan' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_asin': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x106): undefined reference to 'asin' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_acos': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x142): undefined reference to 'acos' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x17e): undefined reference to 'atan' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x1cb): undefined reference to 'atan2' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_ceil': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x20a): undefined reference to 'ceil' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_floor': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x246): undefined reference to 'floor' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_mod': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x293): undefined reference to 'fmod' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sqrt': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x2d2): undefined reference to 'sqrt' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_pow': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x31f): undefined reference to 'pow' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x35e): undefined reference to 'log' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log10': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x39a): undefined reference to 'log10' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_exp': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x3d6): undefined reference to 'exp' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_random': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x6e1): undefined reference to 'floor' > lmathlib.o(.text+0x78d): undefined reference to 'floor' > > > > In what version of FreeBSD (or libc) these functions (sin, cos, tan, ...) > were implemented? > > > Thanks for any help. > > Evandro Sestrem > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/1/2006 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:08 +0000 > From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh > Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <200601171039.08803.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Monday 16 January 2006 20:06, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:01 +0100 > > From: "Daniel A." > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD > > To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Message-ID: > > <5ceb5d550601160530w2b210f8ar4349cf1e1407a6db@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hi, > > Congratulations on your success with PC-BSD. > > > > I think that the nature of the BSD license can also indirectly be > > applied to the FreeBSD mailing lists: Anyone can play along. > > We're not elitist snobs =) > > > > On 1/13/06, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > > > Hey, I've spent the day using pc-bsd, and I quite like it ! Can I remain > > > on the > > > mailing list, or are people already forming hollow squares to drum me out > > > ? > > > > > > Regards to all for the New Year, > > > Deej > > Many thanks for all the replies to my posting. Just to let y'all know that > after toying with PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD - both have their merits - I'm back > home ! Hell, I even put Windoze on for a day or two - what a shambles ! > So, off I go again, trying to write assembler programmes for BSD - as lonely > an occupation as ever bit a sandwich! > > Whilst I'm here, may I pick your collective brains regarding firewalls. > I'm using a stand-alone box with a cable broadband connection. This box is > used only for internet connection, downloading etc. and email, and this is my > current firewall configuration ( stolen from somewhere ! ): > > In my kernel: > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 > options IPSTEALTH > options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN > > In rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" > firewall_type="/etc/firewall.rules" > firewall_logging_enable="YES" > log_in_vain="YES" > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > > My firewall.rules: > > add 00300 check-state > add 00301 deny tcp from any to any in established > add 00302 allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state > add 00400 allow udp from any 53 to any in > add 00402 allow udp from any to any out > add 00500 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 > add 00501 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 4 > add 00502 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 8 > add 00503 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 in > add 00504 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 11 in > > As I know jack-all about Firewalls and all of my time is spent trying to learn > unix assembly, I would appreciate comments on the above configuration from > Those Who Know --- "on the shoulders of giants", and all that ! > I'm sure that there are many out there who would appreciate comments on > firewalls for stand-alone boxes - most of the info seems to be geared toward > multi-processor, double-monitor, three-phase, jump-up-never-come-down, > chrome-plated machines with high IQs ! > > Many thanks, as ever > Deej > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:35 +0100 > From: ivan.roth@free.fr > Subject: Re: Setting up lpd on *BSD > To: Jon Drews > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20060117124235.zcqa9lenxkosss80@imp4.free.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" > > Quoting Jon Drews : > > > On 1/16/06, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > >> Hi Jon, > >> > >> First thank you for your reply (same thank to Lowell Gilbert). > >> > >> I tried to change the mode with lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0 but that is even > >> worth because I have no more output at all! > > > > Yes - I was afraid to use things like that myself. > > > > > >> > >> I am a bit lost between all the confguration files now. CUPS, apsfilter and > >> friends is too much in one day :) > > > > CUPS is a completely different print system than the native FreeBSD > > lpd. apsfilter does not use *.ppd files. These *.ppd files are > > required by your Canon printer. This is also the probable reason why > > lptest would not print. > > > >> > >> Can you tell me where to install an especially downloaded ppd file? > > > > To use lpd do the following. I have not set it up on FreeBSD yet so > > this may not be entirely accurate. > > > > 1) Go to Linux Printing http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi > > and see if your printer is supported. I think your Canon printer is > > not well supported as I did not find a listing there. Here is the site > > for Canon drivers: > > ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/ > > > > However I did not see anything that may be of use to you. > > > > 2) You now have to pick a *ppd (Postscript Printer Definition) file > > and a driver that will work with your Canon bubble jet. I don't know > > what it would be for the Canon i865. I Googled for quite a while > > trying to find a driver and *.ppd file for the i865 printer. > > For my HP printer, the driver would be /usr/pkgsrc/print/hpijs (I > > looked at the FreeBSD ports and their hpijs depends on CUPS, so I > > don't know how to set up lpd on FreeBSD). > > > > 3) Create an /etc/printcap file that looks something like this: > > > > # $NetBSD: printcap,v 1.11 2002/07/01 23:10:19 hubertf Exp $ > > # from: @(#)printcap 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/9/93 > > > > lp|HP3740|HP Local Printer :\ > > :sh:lp=/dev/ulpt0:af=/usr/pkg/etc/HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd:\ > > :if=/usr/pkg/bin/foomatic-rip:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :mx#0:sh: > > > > You would replace HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd with a Canon ppd. > > > > 4) Add your full hostname to /etc/hosts.lpd. See HOSTS.LPD(5) in the > > FreeBSD man pages. > > > > 5) I think you have to add lpd=YES in rc.conf, for FreeBSD. Look in > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf to see what it should be. > > > > 6) Add the following directories to /var/spool/output/lpd: > > > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/lp > > > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/$PRINTER_NAME_THAT_IS_IN_PRINTCAP > > > > in my case this would be > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/HP3740 > > > > 7) Finally, as root, do: > > > > # lpc stop all > > # lpc start all > > > > Then do: > > > > # lpc status all > > > > and you should see something like this: > > lp: > > queuing is enabled > > printing is enabled > > no entries > > printer idle > > > > 8) Now try and print. Do something like this: > > > > # lpr /root/.profile > > > > and if all goes well you should get a printout. > > If not then do: > > > > # lpq > > > > and see the job number of your print job. > > > > > > > >> Now my printer's led is flashing permanently, but nothing else happenned. > >> > >> I never thank that printing would be that much exciting and full of > >> suspense :) > >> > > > > It's a real pain. All I can say is that computer programs are made by > > "the society for the preservation of artificial complexity". Anyway > > here are some good references: > > On the web: > > > > http://www.linuxprinting.org/lpd-doc.html > > > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO/ > > > > Books: > > "Essential System Administration" by Aeleen Frisch, Chapter 13. > > > > "UNIX System Administration Handbook" by Evi Nemeth and others, Chapter 23 > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Jonathan > > > > Thank you very much Jon. > I will follow the steps you gave me tonight and will give you a feedback. Hope > it'll works. > > Thanks again, Ivan. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:57:52 -0500 > From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" > Subject: syslog logging recommendation > To: questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <43CCDBC0.8000800@schmittnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm looking for a recommendation for capturing syslogs from my small > network. Specifically, initially I'd like to capture the syslog from my > Netgear router and store it on my FreeBSD machine. Later I'd add other > machines on the network. I've seen msyslog in the ports, but there's > virtually no information on it out there. I've also seen syslog-ng, > which looks promising. I'd like to store the information in mySQL. I'd > appreciate any recommendations and/or pointers to pages with setup examples. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 > ************************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: 1/16/2006 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:37:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EB916A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from mail.cambotech.com (mail.cambotech.com [202.131.80.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8843D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D5DE73B1 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:50 +0700 (ICT) Received: from mail.cambotech.com ([202.131.80.9]) by localhost (mail.cambotech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03435-07 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:38 +0700 (ICT) Received: from ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net (ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net [202.131.84.170]) by mail.cambotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C748AE735D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:36:36 +0700 (ICT) Received: from pc0001 (pc0001.ygm.com.kh [192.168.1.111]) by ygmsmtp.khmerserver.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id k0I5tGJm002530 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:55:17 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Message-ID: <00f201c61bf5$5fd79820$6f01a8c0@ygm.com.kh> From: "Rithy- System Engineer" To: References: <20060117120029.B5F1A16A422@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:06:50 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cambotech.com Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:37:17 -0000 I got FreeBSD 5.3 release installed on my Server but its hard disk and mainboard are too old and i want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0 with new hard disk on the same PC how can i do this? is it necessary to install any third-party hardware or software? Rithy Ray System Engineer KhmerServer.NET Hosting E-mail: rithy_ray@khmerserver.net sales@rithy4u.net info@khmercentral.com URL: www.rithy4u.net www.khmerserver.net www.khmercentral.com H/P: +855-12-403-001 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 > Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? (Robert Slade) > 2. Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 (Crispy Beef) > 3. Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 (Evandro Sestrem) > 4. Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 (Uncle Deejy-Pooh) > 5. Re: Setting up lpd on *BSD (ivan.roth@free.fr) > 6. syslog logging recommendation (Bill Schmitt (SW)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:49:06 +0000 > From: Robert Slade > Subject: Re: rpm equivalent to 'pkg_add -r'? > To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Message-ID: <1137487746.12144.34.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 08:36, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Gregory Nou wrote: > > > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >> As the subject asks, is there an equivalent? I'm trying to > > >> install linux apache2 on a FreeBSD box, and would like have rpm do > > >> as much as possible as far as getting the dependencies and > > >> downloading them ... > > >> baring this, is there a better tool to use then rpm? > > >> thanks ... > > >> ---- > > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// > > >> www.hub.org) > > >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy > > >> ICQ: 7615664 > > >> > > > look at the end of rpm man page, there is a section INSTALL AND > > > UPGRADE OPTIONS. > > > Concerning other tools, the poor experience I have with RH showed > > > me that rpm is a great tool. Maybe you may try yum, which, iirc, is > > > a GUI for rpm. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Gregory > > > > Actually yum's a means for updating that's meant to replace the > > Redhat Network Tool or whatever it was called back in RH9.0 and RHE, > > which comes as primarily a command line tool I thought. As far as I > > know is only available for Fedora-a product primarily made for > > desktop users made by Redhat. > > -Garrett > > To clear up a couple of points: YUM is a Redhat tool but is a command > line one. It works on all Redhat derived systems not just Fedora. BTW > Fedora is not made by Redhat but is sponsored by them - they use it as a > test platform. > > What I don't understand why the OP is installing Linux Apachie2 from > rpms when there is a perfectly good port for BSD which handles the > dependencies and the different locations of files, scripts etc. > > Rob > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:07:03 +0000 > From: Crispy Beef > Subject: Re: how to use ipod nano in freebsd 6.0 > To: Mike Hernandez > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <43CCC1C7.2060405@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > >>| hello all, i have ipod nano and im using freebsd 6.0. > >>| DMESG command display (umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2) message.The iPod nano is detected when > >>| plugged in, but a daX device is not created. please help me > > > > > > I get that too with the 30GB iPod I just bought. I think there's an issue > > preventing new iPods from working with FreeBSD. I even formatted mine > > for windows since it's easier to read vfat rather than HFS. Still nothing. > > If you get your nano workin please let me know :) > > I'll ask my friend what he did to get his working, not sure which iPod he has > exactly either, could well be a difference in the models or something like that. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:40:26 -0300 > From: "Evandro Sestrem" > Subject: Lua 5.0 and FreeBSD 4.1 > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello, > > I'm trying compile a project using Lua 5.0 (www.lua.org) in FreePascal > (2.0.2 [2005/11/17] for i386) in a FreeBSD 4.1. > > The Lua 5.0 is correctly installed. > > It compiles ok, but when it is linking I got these errors: > > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sin': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x52): undefined reference to 'sin' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_cos': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to 'cos' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_tan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0xca): undefined reference to 'tan' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_asin': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x106): undefined reference to 'asin' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_acos': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x142): undefined reference to 'acos' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x17e): undefined reference to 'atan' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_atan': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x1cb): undefined reference to 'atan2' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_ceil': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x20a): undefined reference to 'ceil' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_floor': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x246): undefined reference to 'floor' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_mod': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x293): undefined reference to 'fmod' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_sqrt': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x2d2): undefined reference to 'sqrt' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_pow': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x31f): undefined reference to 'pow' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x35e): undefined reference to 'log' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_log10': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x39a): undefined reference to 'log10' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_exp': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x3d6): undefined reference to 'exp' > /usr/local/lib//liblualib.a(lmathlib.o): In function 'math_random': > lmathlib.o(.text+0x6e1): undefined reference to 'floor' > lmathlib.o(.text+0x78d): undefined reference to 'floor' > > > > In what version of FreeBSD (or libc) these functions (sin, cos, tan, ...) > were implemented? > > > Thanks for any help. > > Evandro Sestrem > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/1/2006 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:39:08 +0000 > From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh > Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <200601171039.08803.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Monday 16 January 2006 20:06, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:01 +0100 > > From: "Daniel A." > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD > > To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Message-ID: > > <5ceb5d550601160530w2b210f8ar4349cf1e1407a6db@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hi, > > Congratulations on your success with PC-BSD. > > > > I think that the nature of the BSD license can also indirectly be > > applied to the FreeBSD mailing lists: Anyone can play along. > > We're not elitist snobs =) > > > > On 1/13/06, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > > > Hey, I've spent the day using pc-bsd, and I quite like it ! Can I remain > > > on the > > > mailing list, or are people already forming hollow squares to drum me out > > > ? > > > > > > Regards to all for the New Year, > > > Deej > > Many thanks for all the replies to my posting. Just to let y'all know that > after toying with PC-BSD and Desktop-BSD - both have their merits - I'm back > home ! Hell, I even put Windoze on for a day or two - what a shambles ! > So, off I go again, trying to write assembler programmes for BSD - as lonely > an occupation as ever bit a sandwich! > > Whilst I'm here, may I pick your collective brains regarding firewalls. > I'm using a stand-alone box with a cable broadband connection. This box is > used only for internet connection, downloading etc. and email, and this is my > current firewall configuration ( stolen from somewhere ! ): > > In my kernel: > > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=10 > options IPSTEALTH > options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN > > In rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" > firewall_type="/etc/firewall.rules" > firewall_logging_enable="YES" > log_in_vain="YES" > tcp_drop_synfin="YES" > icmp_drop_redirect="YES" > > My firewall.rules: > > add 00300 check-state > add 00301 deny tcp from any to any in established > add 00302 allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state > add 00400 allow udp from any 53 to any in > add 00402 allow udp from any to any out > add 00500 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3 > add 00501 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 4 > add 00502 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 8 > add 00503 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 in > add 00504 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 11 in > > As I know jack-all about Firewalls and all of my time is spent trying to learn > unix assembly, I would appreciate comments on the above configuration from > Those Who Know --- "on the shoulders of giants", and all that ! > I'm sure that there are many out there who would appreciate comments on > firewalls for stand-alone boxes - most of the info seems to be geared toward > multi-processor, double-monitor, three-phase, jump-up-never-come-down, > chrome-plated machines with high IQs ! > > Many thanks, as ever > Deej > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:42:35 +0100 > From: ivan.roth@free.fr > Subject: Re: Setting up lpd on *BSD > To: Jon Drews > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20060117124235.zcqa9lenxkosss80@imp4.free.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" > > Quoting Jon Drews : > > > On 1/16/06, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > >> Hi Jon, > >> > >> First thank you for your reply (same thank to Lowell Gilbert). > >> > >> I tried to change the mode with lptcontrol -p -d /dev/lpt0 but that is even > >> worth because I have no more output at all! > > > > Yes - I was afraid to use things like that myself. > > > > > >> > >> I am a bit lost between all the confguration files now. CUPS, apsfilter and > >> friends is too much in one day :) > > > > CUPS is a completely different print system than the native FreeBSD > > lpd. apsfilter does not use *.ppd files. These *.ppd files are > > required by your Canon printer. This is also the probable reason why > > lptest would not print. > > > >> > >> Can you tell me where to install an especially downloaded ppd file? > > > > To use lpd do the following. I have not set it up on FreeBSD yet so > > this may not be entirely accurate. > > > > 1) Go to Linux Printing http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi > > and see if your printer is supported. I think your Canon printer is > > not well supported as I did not find a listing there. Here is the site > > for Canon drivers: > > ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/ > > > > However I did not see anything that may be of use to you. > > > > 2) You now have to pick a *ppd (Postscript Printer Definition) file > > and a driver that will work with your Canon bubble jet. I don't know > > what it would be for the Canon i865. I Googled for quite a while > > trying to find a driver and *.ppd file for the i865 printer. > > For my HP printer, the driver would be /usr/pkgsrc/print/hpijs (I > > looked at the FreeBSD ports and their hpijs depends on CUPS, so I > > don't know how to set up lpd on FreeBSD). > > > > 3) Create an /etc/printcap file that looks something like this: > > > > # $NetBSD: printcap,v 1.11 2002/07/01 23:10:19 hubertf Exp $ > > # from: @(#)printcap 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/9/93 > > > > lp|HP3740|HP Local Printer :\ > > :sh:lp=/dev/ulpt0:af=/usr/pkg/etc/HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd:\ > > :if=/usr/pkg/bin/foomatic-rip:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd/lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > :mx#0:sh: > > > > You would replace HP-DeskJet_3740-hpijs.ppd with a Canon ppd. > > > > 4) Add your full hostname to /etc/hosts.lpd. See HOSTS.LPD(5) in the > > FreeBSD man pages. > > > > 5) I think you have to add lpd=YES in rc.conf, for FreeBSD. Look in > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf to see what it should be. > > > > 6) Add the following directories to /var/spool/output/lpd: > > > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/lp > > > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/$PRINTER_NAME_THAT_IS_IN_PRINTCAP > > > > in my case this would be > > # mkdir /var/spool/output/lpd/HP3740 > > > > 7) Finally, as root, do: > > > > # lpc stop all > > # lpc start all > > > > Then do: > > > > # lpc status all > > > > and you should see something like this: > > lp: > > queuing is enabled > > printing is enabled > > no entries > > printer idle > > > > 8) Now try and print. Do something like this: > > > > # lpr /root/.profile > > > > and if all goes well you should get a printout. > > If not then do: > > > > # lpq > > > > and see the job number of your print job. > > > > > > > >> Now my printer's led is flashing permanently, but nothing else happenned. > >> > >> I never thank that printing would be that much exciting and full of > >> suspense :) > >> > > > > It's a real pain. All I can say is that computer programs are made by > > "the society for the preservation of artificial complexity". Anyway > > here are some good references: > > On the web: > > > > http://www.linuxprinting.org/lpd-doc.html > > > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO/ > > > > Books: > > "Essential System Administration" by Aeleen Frisch, Chapter 13. > > > > "UNIX System Administration Handbook" by Evi Nemeth and others, Chapter 23 > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Jonathan > > > > Thank you very much Jon. > I will follow the steps you gave me tonight and will give you a feedback. Hope > it'll works. > > Thanks again, Ivan. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:57:52 -0500 > From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" > Subject: syslog logging recommendation > To: questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <43CCDBC0.8000800@schmittnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'm looking for a recommendation for capturing syslogs from my small > network. Specifically, initially I'd like to capture the syslog from my > Netgear router and store it on my FreeBSD machine. Later I'd add other > machines on the network. I've seen msyslog in the ports, but there's > virtually no information on it out there. I've also seen syslog-ng, > which looks promising. I'd like to store the information in mySQL. I'd > appreciate any recommendations and/or pointers to pages with setup examples. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 > ************************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: 1/16/2006 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 07:50:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A23816A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:50:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from stjohn.ac.th (ns.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8125A43D5A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from tulip.stjohn.ac.th [203.151.134.104] by stjohn.ac.th with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.21) id A33302F0; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:50:11 +0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20060118144400.00a51d90@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: 2-server.international.stjohn.ac.th:mcrogerm@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:50:10 +0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Roger Merritt In-Reply-To: <20060118055509.GA99295@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:50:15 -0000 At 12:55 AM 1/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:54:39AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:25:57AM +0100, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > > >>Hi! > > >> > > >>OK, this is an old PIII 1 GHZ , 500 MB RAM running > > >>6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 15 05:56:00 CET 2006 > > >> > > >>When I start a > > >> > > >> # portupgrade -a > > >> > > >>up to 671 MB swap are used and I see this message: > > >> > > >> make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily > > >> unavailable > > >> > > >>and of course everything becomes really slow. Has anybody else > > >>seen this? > > > > > >You are setting an illegal variable in your make.conf or environment > > >that is causing the port makefile to recurse. Probably USE_GCC or > > >some other USE_*. > > That could be a hint. I can find legal options in > > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > can I ? > >Sort of..but it also lists options that are only legal within specific >port makefiles (like USE_*). > >Post your make.conf and I'll probably be able to tell you what's wrong. > >Kris OK, my problem doesn't seem to be exactly the same. My machine hangs, and when I check it the console screen is filled with the message, "swap-pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 26650, size: 4096" and at that point the only thing I can do is a hard reboot -- it's not reacting to input at all. My /etc/make.conf in its entirety is # added by use.perl 2006-01-18 08:04:37 PERL_VER=5.8.7 PERL_VERSION=5.8.7 I was surprised to find there is no /etc/defaults/make.conf any more -- that may have something to do with it. I haven't been paying very close attention until now. -- Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 08:00:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4D016A425 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from napstertash@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33943D5C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from napstertash@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1588133wri for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=t6Ax4b8xuoGVZFypQCjrw2KUYR5bd+NO/cIfFMUuK8S7PTIIdfiCMg+JLV/9wpuT4v28747KLi3Q+1fquos14PpPZKgnuCUnAK+lc8M6Pr9yTT+VWPieVT4S9X5Dhhf3PJXvbNGb55iBClhqsFuKSJAPKDnNZA+D+xi3KR0WF7I= Received: by 10.65.124.13 with SMTP id b13mr4624616qbn; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.182.15 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <686aeb1e0601180000xa0b0b2pfc0ef2401c4b74b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:00:13 +0300 From: Ronnie Napster Tash To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: problem with make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:00:23 -0000 SGkgbGlzdCBpIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIGZyZWVCU0QgNS40IGFuZCBpIGhhdmUgdHJpZWQgdG8g bWFrZSBidWlsZHdvcmxkIGJ1dAppZiBmYWlscy4KCkFueWJvZHkgd2hvIGhhcyBmYWNlZCB0aGlz IGJlZm9yZT8KCnRoZXNlIGFyZSB0aGUgZXJyb3JzIGl0IGdlbmVyYXRlcwoKQWZ0ZXIgc2V0dGlu ZyB1cCBteSBmaXJld2FsbApjZCAvdXNyL3NyYwptYWtlIGJ1aWxkd29ybGQKCmVycm9yIG1ha2U6 IGRvbid0IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIG1ha2UgYnVpbGR3b3JsZC4gU3RvcAoKCi0tClJvbm5pZSBUYXNo CkV2ZXJ5dGhpbmcgY2FuIGJlIGFjaGlldmVkIGFzIGxvbmcgeW91IGNhbiBkbyB3aGF0IGl0IHRh a2VzIHRvIGFjaGlldmUgaXQhCgpBIHdpc2UgbWFuIHdpbGwgc2VlayBhbiBvcHBvcnR1bml0eSBp biBldmVyeSBwcm9ibGVtOyBBIGZvb2xpc2ggbWFuIHdpbGwgc2VlCmEgcHJvYmxlbSBpbiBldmVy eSBvcHBvcnR1bml0eS4K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 08:46:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA63016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFD243D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6731A3C1B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 804AF52B65; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:46:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:46:26 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Roger Merritt Message-ID: <20060118084626.GA2506@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118041836.L884@www.pukruppa.net> <20060118052156.GA98468@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060118065305.X884@www.pukruppa.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20060118144400.00a51d90@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20060118144400.00a51d90@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade eats my swap space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:27 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:50:10PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote: > OK, my problem doesn't seem to be exactly the same. My machine hangs, and= =20 > when I check it the console screen is filled with the message, "swap-page= r:=20 > indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 26650, size: 4096" and at that= =20 > point the only thing I can do is a hard reboot -- it's not reacting to=20 > input at all. You probably have a failing HD. Back up and replace before the damage becomes worse and you lose data. > My /etc/make.conf in its entirety is >=20 > # added by use.perl 2006-01-18 08:04:37 > PERL_VER=3D5.8.7 > PERL_VERSION=3D5.8.7 >=20 > I was surprised to find there is no /etc/defaults/make.conf any more --= =20 > that may have something to do with it. I haven't been paying very close= =20 > attention until now. Nope, it's in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf now. The file is entirely commented out so it was a NOP to have it in /etc/defaults. Kris --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzgBhWry0BWjoQKURAuTsAKDBmyaIO/Eni1wN6NNOimcTrgq18QCeLSYn 7IBnG0oTnW2lRpgEhJH88AU= =FzH/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 08:46:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AB16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCF643D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC82D1A3C23; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F30EA52B65; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:46:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:46:50 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ronnie Napster Tash Message-ID: <20060118084650.GB2506@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <686aeb1e0601180000xa0b0b2pfc0ef2401c4b74b8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <686aeb1e0601180000xa0b0b2pfc0ef2401c4b74b8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:46:52 -0000 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:00:13AM +0300, Ronnie Napster Tash wrote: > Hi list i just installed freeBSD 5.4 and i have tried to make buildworld = but > if fails. >=20 > Anybody who has faced this before? >=20 > these are the errors it generates >=20 > After setting up my firewall > cd /usr/src > make buildworld >=20 > error make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop You don't have the source code installed. Please see the handbook. Kris --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzgB6Wry0BWjoQKURAs62AJ9gHdcBu3NLgKrWs3luBmd6Rh2IKwCgkFWD oTDZQqA8y1OZmuaX+OzBju8= =HP2Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:06:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A944A16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8E343D60 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:06:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A26428777 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:06:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66806-07 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:06:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (me.todoo.biz [82.66.93.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF842876D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:06:30 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6F61FBCF-8AC8-4EEF-935F-BEF1EF0E56CF@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:06:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at rmm.fr Subject: Cron script redirection (probably stderr problem ?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:06:40 -0000 Hello, I am using a little cron script to update my server that calls =20 "portsnap". Once this is done there is another piece of script that =20 tells me which port(s) is to be updated with a simple call to a =20 script that mainly execute portversion -l "<" and mail me the output =20 of the command. There is one little problem with that script : Cron mails me (root) each time this output (probably because it comes =20= from standerr ?) : > [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 14011 =20= > port entries found .........=20 > 1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.=20= > ........=20 > 7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........120=20= > 00.........13000.........14000 ..... done] The cron script is executed as follow : 0 3 * * * /usr/local/sbin/portsnap cron && /usr/local/sbin/portsnap -=20 I update && /root/src/upgrade.sh > /var/log/upgrade.log I've tried to add a 2>&1 at the end of the script : 0 3 * * * /usr/local/sbin/portsnap cron && /usr/local/sbin/portsnap -=20 I update && /root/src/upgrade.sh > /var/log/upgrade.log 2>&1 But this does not seem to change my problem. Any help ? ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:14:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EC616A425 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69AD43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:14:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (pcp0011427575pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net[69.246.103.241]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <200601180914160140021ja3e>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:14:20 +0000 From: Leonard Zettel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:17:31 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1965019375.20060111213647@interia.pl> <20060118010427.GD76105@wantadilla.lemis.com> <1A10B8B1-A845-4C86-91E7-836E795FEE6A@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <1A10B8B1-A845-4C86-91E7-836E795FEE6A@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601180917.31576.zettel@acm.org> Cc: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zettel@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:14:21 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 05:53 am, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: (snip)> I think you need to look up the word "xenophobe" > > > > There is nothing in having an english-language-only list that fits > the definition. > Them dam furriners oughta get zivilized & learn Anglish! -LenZ- (snip) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:29:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C77216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9F043D75 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1Ez9dC-00070i-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:29:30 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:29:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <078501c61b8b$478265d0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> In-Reply-To: <078501c61b8b$478265d0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: Re: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:29:57 -0000 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 19:27, Micheal Patterson pondered: > > The 1663 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > 80/tcp open http > > 554/tcp open rtsp > > 1755/tcp open wms > > 5190/tcp open aol > > Kilian, what does a sockstat show you on those systems and are there any > nats on either of these systems that would have a redirect_address to > something behind them? sockstat -4l only shows up the processes serving the LAN (dnsmasq, samba) as well as sshd: USER COMMAND PID FD PROTOLOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root smbd 484 18 tcp4 192.168.133.1:445 *:* root smbd 484 19 tcp4 192.168.133.1:139 *:* root nmbd 480 6 udp4 *:137 *:* root nmbd 480 7 udp4 *:138 *:* root nmbd 480 8 udp4 192.168.133.1:137 *:* root nmbd 480 9 udp4 192.168.133.1:138 *:* nobody dnsmasq 458 1 udp4 *:56212 *:* nobody dnsmasq 458 3 udp4 *:53 *:* nobody dnsmasq 458 4 tcp4 *:53 *:* nobody dnsmasq 458 5 udp4 *:67 *:* root sshd 432 3 tcp4 *:22 *:* root syslogd 311 4 udp4 *:514 *:* So nothing suspect at all here. Yes, the systems are natted(with above system LAN on 192.168.133.0/24), using ppp -nat. I have no specific redirects set up, and only a "allow tcp/udp from LAN to WAN/any setup keep-state" dynamic rule, but that should be unrelated. If my server is not compromised, how the heck could an http/rtsp/wms/aol redirect sneak in there without me explicitly enabling it? -- Kilian Hagemann Climate Systems Analysis Group University of Cape Town Republic of South Africa Tel(w): ++27 21 650 2748 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:43:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED0616A446 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mail.dc-servers.com (mail.dc-servers.com [83.243.101.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8387643D8E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:42:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: (qmail 1165 invoked by uid 399); 18 Jan 2006 09:47:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alfie.jigsawhq.com) (work@ashleymoran.me.uk@213.106.224.113) by mail.dc-servers.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 09:47:41 -0000 From: Ashley Moran Organization: Codeweavers Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:40:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200601171342.08506.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <200601171342.08506.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601180940.53214.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Subject: Re: I killed my Flash player 7 in Konqueror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:43:17 -0000 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 13:42, Ashley Moran wrote: > root@alfie# cat /etc/libmap.conf > # Flash7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror > [/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin7/libflashplayer.so] > libpthread.so.0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 pluginwrapper/flash7.so > libdl.so.2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pluginwrapper/flash= 7.so > libz.so.1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 libz.so.3 > libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0libstdc++.so.5 > libm.so.6 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 libm.so.4 > libc.so.6 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 pluginwrapper/flash= 7.so =46ixed it, turns out references to pluginwrapper/flash7.so should actually= be=20 to pluginwrapper/flash6.so. Obviously :-S From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:46:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6740616A423 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9815D43D5E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Jan 2006 09:45:37 -0000 Received: from p54AD97CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO www2.gmx.net) [84.173.151.205] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 10:45:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14602519 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.gmx.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0I9jZHC000489 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:45:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from apog@oak.pohoyda.family) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k0I9jZQt000486; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:45:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from apog) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:45:35 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200601180945.k0I9jZQt000486@oak.pohoyda.family> From: Alexander Pohoyda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: String variable expansion routine wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:46:23 -0000 Hi folks, Is there a C-function that does string variable expansion like this: "some text $(VARIABLE) text" --> "some text VALUE text" I suppose this functionality is useful for many programs, so I'm looking for a simpe library to link with. Please CC me on reply. Thanks a lot! -- Alexander Pohoyda PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:50:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AEA16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB1343D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so1396410nzf for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:50:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W6iw1EJ4oB24bUDdyp+dLtFnxDADAXYKwcCPl63oAiq+mXQaEQSgfrX6KMeOTvfyqZB/p34T9WclWwSbvNSziq7U+X1WiAy+YOiuMb3GCQpy6Px2FtYVMWG6Jme5Ap+TOuY5cpuZorGaKFUA3VhIrv+PDn03Qe3nt7cqhptFKcw= Received: by 10.36.77.16 with SMTP id z16mr6767577nza; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.220.14 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:50:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71c73b070601180150l32c52d24kd1f53b27f39a0636@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:20:08 +0530 From: Anirban Adhikary To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to install x-windows in freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:50:12 -0000 Hi guys ,This is Anirban here.I have just installed freeBSD 6.0 and i have installed it properly.But i am not able to see any graphics on it.So my question is that how i can install x-window system in freeBSD environment. Hope i will receive my reply soon. with regards Anirban. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 09:57:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5C416A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from sm7.simplethings.de (a15160313.alturo-server.de [217.160.128.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DDF43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from smm.simplethings.de ([85.88.4.201]) by sm7.simplethings.de with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EzA4Y-0000WP-QL; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:57:52 +0100 Received: from [212.79.172.180] (helo=center.shared) by smM.simplethings.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1EzA4Y-0000XS-I6; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:57:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.66] (helo=[192.168.2.66]) by center.shared with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EzA5P-0006x0-2G; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <43CE114E.2060909@ccgis.de> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:58:38 +0100 From: Benjamin Thelen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anirban Adhikary References: <71c73b070601180150l32c52d24kd1f53b27f39a0636@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <71c73b070601180150l32c52d24kd1f53b27f39a0636@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:55 -0000 Hi Anirban, a very good place to start is the handbook, chapter 5. Most important is to know the monitor specifications, video adapter chipset, the video adapter memory and to create a initial xorg.conf with Xorg -configure If you've done this already and still hung, you need to supply detailed information to the list. Best, Ben Anirban Adhikary schrieb: > Hi guys ,This is Anirban here.I have just installed freeBSD 6.0 and i have > installed it properly.But i am not able to see any graphics on it.So my > question is that how i can install x-window system in freeBSD environment. > Hope i will receive my reply soon. > with regards > Anirban. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 10:00:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6075B16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD13443D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:00:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F081773E; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:00:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id B598D54278; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:00:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:00:41 +0100 Message-ID: <20060118110041.8dut2kwu0wsgoo08@imp4.free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:00:41 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: anirban.adhikary@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:00:39 -0000 Hi Anirban, This is not your first post here but I can't understand how you can ask for such information. However, I am not the police and I found something, very miraculous for you. But please when you need informations, have a look to the handbook and on Google. We won't work for you. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11.html Of course if this chapter and Google let some issues unsolved, feel free to ask questions here (that is why it is called freebsd-questions, isn't it?) -- Regards, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 10:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A9916A4A0 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (rly-ip08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D443D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com [195.93.24.101]) by rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0ODQ5pL024516; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:26:15 -0500 Received: from koukou (ACC8C8CA.ipt.aol.com [172.200.200.202]) by smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0IA1qUH030662; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:01:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200601181001.k0IA1qUH030662@smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com> From: "Spiros Papadopoulos" To: "'Alexander Pohoyda'" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:58:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200601180945.k0I9jZQt000486@oak.pohoyda.family> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 thread-index: AcYcFCFJBJpygyhlSna1mIJeVle/nwAAA+EA X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: String variable expansion routine wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:02:01 -0000 Hi, Well If I understood well you need printf() Definitely check the manual page: #man 3 printf You can use printf() like this: vartype Variable = declaration; /* string or int or double etc */ /* will print your text and the variable in the middle */ printf("some text... %type_of_variable ... more text", variable); You can use multiple variables like that if you want of any type: int = 1; string = "Hello"; .... .... ..... printf("(text)number: %i(int), text: %s, text: %..., text: %... , text: ...", int, string, ..., ..., ...); Spiros P. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Pohoyda > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: String variable expansion routine wanted > > Hi folks, > > Is there a C-function that does string variable expansion like this: > > "some text $(VARIABLE) text" --> "some text VALUE text" > > I suppose this functionality is useful for many programs, so I'm > looking for a simpe library to link with. > > Please CC me on reply. Thanks a lot! > > -- > Alexander Pohoyda > PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 10:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BA416A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:04:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6100543D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:04:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mfatihakbulut@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so125127wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:04:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YIQmpruj0aWcqHNW2MiSxceZSa7aaHATzwSzC7Gxep7cuG0wlMT/rEQ8IBhSex79sulhIzdoKMWYZjul7EQDQb13Z6FQh+PLBIR61ayu7NHQIHYCxcxfiX7pZQQv5TfO2heQARqyT/5qZ/mjAKGSseu0zx4Q6KqRwYAB/TMxJHI= Received: by 10.65.183.7 with SMTP id k7mr4567169qbp; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.195.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:04:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:04:08 +0200 From: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT To: Anirban Adhikary In-Reply-To: <71c73b070601180150l32c52d24kd1f53b27f39a0636@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <71c73b070601180150l32c52d24kd1f53b27f39a0636@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install x-windows in freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:04:10 -0000 hi Anirban, first update your ports tree using cvsup. [cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/ports-supfile this will do it. but ports-supfile might be somewhere else if u didnt edit then move it under /etc. for this check documentation.] then cd to /usr/ports/x11/xorg # make install clean. soon u done with this step, move to the last one. select kde or gnome to install. [up to you which to prefer.] kde or gnome alsa avaliable in ports. cd to the directory u prefer. then make install clean again. edit your xorgconf [accourding to your pc configuration] and xinitrc [exec startkde]. reboot, login, startx ;) hope this will help. regards, bye ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 10:05:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6958516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B741243D70 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0IA8vP20039; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:05:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060116171536.5yk012n1eokw8gss@imp4.free.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: trouble installing new printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:05:24 -0000 Hi Ivan, OK I hope this isn't going to sound to nasty but I'm going to say it anyway. Did it ever occur to you that it might have been a better idea to post to the mailing list and ask what a good printer to buy would be BEFORE buying this printer? There are websites specifically http://www.linuxprinting.org that are set up for this - your Canon isn't even listed on that one. Why - because nobody buys Canon printers that use them under FreeBSD or Linux - and the reason is pretty clearly stated on this page here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html "...There are few good free software drivers for Canon and Lexmark inkjets. Do not buy one and expect success..." In short, you gave your money to a company that hasn't lifted a finger to support any Open Source operating systems - and you didn't give your money to a printer manufacturer who has spent money supporting Open Source operating systems. Now, please explain how doing this is going to encourage more support of Open Source operating systems by printer manufacturers? Also one other thing - according to this website: http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/bubble_jet/archiv e.asp your printer is no longer in production. If you just bought this printer you got it from a closeout bargain basement dealer for a cheap closeout price. It is not like you have a lot of money invested in this printer, then. My advice to you is you need to treat this as a fairly cheap but important lesson on purchasing computer peripherals. I would also point out that just about all inkjet printers are designed as devices that force the user to spend a lot of money on inkjet cartridges. Your cost per page from this printer will be -far higher- than that of a decent laser printer, and if you do any amount of black and white printing your going to save money if you get a black and white printer and save the bubble jet for printing color, only. Even a dot-matrix would be far cheaper. Beyond this the only other thing I can offer you is that if you are using the parallel port to the printer you might try the USB port instead. I can't guarantee it will work at all, but USB is faster than parallel. a LOT faster. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >ivan.roth@free.fr >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:16 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: trouble installing new printer > > >Hi all, > >my previous (and still unanswered) message was: > >----------------------------------------------- >Hi, > >I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer >install on >FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the >handbook. But when >running the really simple 'lptest > /dev/lpt0' command, nothing >happened, >excepted the flashing light on the printer. > >The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light >is flashing >longer with lptest > /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5 > /dev/lpt0. > >I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and >activated the lf >capability. > >And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result. > >I tried many research on the net but could not find anything >useful. I am now >installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the >compilation process. > >Thank you. >----------------------------------------------- > >So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I >tested Canon BJC-800 >and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible). > >Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5 >minutes for a simple >plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ? > >I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it. > >So at that point: >- I can print >- I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the >handbook printed. > > >Do you have anything to suggest to me ? > >-- >Regards, Ivan >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release >Date: 1/16/2006 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 10:20:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D78F16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:20:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604D343D5C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:20:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECE71817A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id BCAA054201; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:50 +0100 Message-ID: <20060118112050.iygm56c4o4s0ksog@imp4.free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:50 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: trouble installing new printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:20:50 -0000 Hi Ted, don't worry about what your mail sounds, it is ok :) You're right on every points. I do not need to print so much. In fact, I am translating the printing chapter of the handbook to french and I just wante= d to test the parallel interface. I bought this printer for 70$ (approx.). In fa= ct, it is just the cost for knowledge :) Yes I should have choose a compatible printer, but it was the cheapest one = and I am sure I will have good results. Some website pointed me to the BJC-8200 d= river and I got some results with the BJC-800 one. I am not a politic man but I think one company you may consider working for= open source is HP, especially when they give the FBSD foundation important gifts= . I worked for them and I had to change my job because of their restructuration plan (I was like a "collateral damage", not a directly "fired" guy). Everybody will have his point of view. I promised myself never buy Canon printers again after my i320. But for sure, when time will come for me to have an "everyday-printing prin= ter", I will choose it carefuly, and spend as much money as necessary. P.S: a simple PS just about USB printers: the chapter I am translating (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html) said "USB is superior to RS-232 Serial and to Parallel for printing, but it is not as we= ll supported under UNIX=AE systems." I will test USB connection of course and maybe submit an update for this chapter. -- Regards, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 11:19:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B4716A465 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rolandromero@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539EE43DBC for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rolandromero@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so1642272wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:47:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TiSX8/iWyGqFEytg7vVdnwQw441cVD1jitbmCDZtGjIwkdx6zDNsrXDK4MQuhnjPHnLXvGBJO0poCfnpJcnfiTcFDhu1NwjyGeBwvlPwTz/WLYFaOWtxg/suLXt4VeDj29gIXciwTouOMvYxnhjQkqiZGAByFYJbc9VI5H++Dlk= Received: by 10.65.241.13 with SMTP id t13mr4696129qbr; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.59.14 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:47:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <607306ab0601180247t132f3cc6j@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:47:43 +0100 From: Roland Romero To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: urgent, agir vite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:19:57 -0000 on dirait qu'il y a un bug l=E0 : http://www.fr.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi?max=3D25&source=3Dwww&words=3DTurb= oGX&submit=3DRechercher =E7a affiche tout le code perl ! de rien. Rol, fan de frib=E9hesd=E9 #!/usr/bin/perl -T # # mail-archive.pl -- a CGI interface to a wais indexed maling list archiv= e. # # Origin: # Tony Sanders , Nov 1993 # # Hacked beyond recognition by: # John Fieber , Nov 1994 # # Format the mail messages a little nicer. # Add code to check database status before searching. # John Fieber , Aug 1996 # # Disclaimer: # This is pretty ugly in places. # # $FreeBSD: www/en/cgi/search.cgi,v 1.26 2005/10/24 20:59:01 wosch Exp $ $server_root =3D '/usr/local/www'; $waisq =3D "/usr/local/www/bin/waisq"; $sourcepath =3D "$server_root/db/index"; $hints =3D "/search/searchhints.html"; $searchpage =3D '/search/search.html'; $myurl =3D $ENV{'SCRIPT_NAME'}; require "open2.pl"; require "./cgi-lib.pl"; require "./cgi-style.pl"; @months =3D ('Jan', 'Feb', 'Mar', 'Apr', 'May', 'Jun', 'Jul', 'Aug', 'Sep', 'Oct', 'Nov', 'Dec'); sub escape($) { $_ =3D $_[0]; s/&/&/g; s//>/g; $_; } sub do_wais { &ReadParse; @FORM_words =3D split(/ /, escape($in{"words"})); @FORM_source =3D split(/\0/, escape($in{"source"})); $FORM_max =3D $in{"max"}; $FORM_docnum =3D $in{"docnum"}; $FORM_index =3D $in{"index"}; if ($FORM_index =3D~ /^re[sc]ent$/) { =09$sourcepath =3D "$server_root/db/index-recent"; } if ($#FORM_words < 0) { =09print &html_header("Mail Archive Search") . =09 "

No search term given."; =09print "

\nPlease return to the " . =09 "search page and fill out the 'Search for' field!\n"; =09print &html_footer; =09exit 0; } @AVAIL_source =3D &checksource(@FORM_source); if ($#FORM_source !=3D $#AVAIL_source) { =09$j =3D 0; =09$k =3D 0; =09foreach $i (0 .. $#FORM_source) { =09 if ($FORM_source[$i] ne $AVAIL_source[$j]) { =09 =09$badsource[$k] =3D $FORM_source[$i]; =09 =09$k++; =09 } else { =09 =09$j++; =09 } =09} =09$badsource =3D join(", ", @badsource); =09$badsource =3D~ s/,([^,]*)$/ and $1/; =09if ($#FORM_source - $#AVAIL_source > 1) { =09 $availmsg =3D "

[The $badsource archives are currently unavailable.]

"; =09} else { =09 $availmsg =3D "

[The $badsource archive is currently unavailable.]

"; =09} } if ($#AVAIL_source < 0) { =09$i =3D join(", ", @FORM_source); =09$i =3D~ s/,([^,]*)$/ and $1/; =09print &html_header("Mail Archive Search") . =09 "

None of the archives you requested ($i) are " . =09=09" available at this time.

\n"; =09print "

Please try again later, or return to the " . =09 "search page and select a different archive.

\n"; =09print &html_footer; =09exit 0; } # Now we formulate the question to ask the server foreach $i (@AVAIL_source) { =09$w_sources .=3D "(:source-id\n :filename \"$i.src\"\n ) = "; } $w_question =3D "\n (:question :version 2 :seed-words \"@FORM_words\" :relevant-documents ( ) :sourcepath \"$sourcepath/:\" :sources ( $w_sources ) :maximum-results $FORM_max :result-documents ( ) )\n"; # # First case, no document number so this is a regular search # print &html_header("Search Results"); print $availmsg; if ($#AVAIL_source > 0) { =09$src =3D join(", ", @AVAIL_source); =09$src =3D~ s/,([^,]*)$/ and $1/; =09print "

The archives $src contain "; } else { =09print "The archive @AVAIL_source contains "; } print " the following items relevant to \`@FORM_words\':\n"; print "

    \n"; &open2(WAISOUT, WAISIN, $waisq, "-g"); print WAISIN $w_question; local(@mylist) =3D (); local($hits, $score, $headline, $lines, $bytes, $docid, $date, $file); while () { =09/:original-local-id.*#\(\s+([^\)]*)/ && =09 ($docid =3D pack("C*", split(/\s+/, $1)), =09 $docid =3D~ s/\s+/+/g); =09/:score\s+(\d+)/ && ($score =3D $1); =09/:filename "(.*)"/ && ($file =3D $1); =09/:number-of-lines\s+(\d+)/ && ($lines =3D $1); =09/:number-of-bytes\s+(\d+)/ && ($bytes =3D $1); =09/:headline "(.*)"/ && ($headline =3D $1, =09=09=09 $headline =3D~ s/[Rr]e://); # XXX =09/:date "(\d+)"/ && $docid !~ /\.src$/ && ($date =3D $1, $hits++, =09=09=09 push(@mylist, join("\t", $date, $headline, $docid, =09=09=09=09=09 $bytes, $lines, $file, $score, $hits))); } if ($in{'sort'} eq "date") { =09foreach (reverse sort {$a <=3D> $b} @mylist) { =09 ($date, $headline, $docid, $bytes, $lines, =09 $file, $score, $hits) =3D split("\t"); =09 &docdone; =09} } elsif ($in{'sort'} eq "subject") { =09local(@a, @c, $b, $d); =09foreach (@mylist) { =09 @a =3D split("\t"); =09 $b =3D $a[0]; =09 # swap date and subject =09 if ($a[1] =3D~ /(^[^:]+)(Re:.*)/) { =09=09$a[0] =3D "$2\t$1"; =09 } else { =09=09$a[0] =3D "$a[1]\t."; =09 } =09 $a[1] =3D $b; =09 push(@c, join("\t", @a)); =09} =09local($subject, $author); =09foreach (sort {$a cmp $b} @c) { =09 ($subject, $author, $date, $docid, $bytes, =09 $lines, $file, $score, $hits) =3D split("\t"); =09 $headline =3D $author . $subject; =09 &docdone; =09} } elsif ($in{'sort'} eq "author") { =09local(@a, @c, $b); =09foreach (@mylist) { =09 @a =3D split("\t"); =09 # swap date and subject =09 $b =3D $a[0]; $a[0] =3D $a[1]; $a[1] =3D $b; =09 push(@c, join("\t", @a)); =09} =09foreach (sort {$a cmp $b} @c) { =09 ($headline, $date, $docid, $bytes, =09 $lines, $file, $score, $hits) =3D split("\t"); =09 &docdone; =09} } else { =09foreach (@mylist) { =09 ($date, $headline, $docid, $bytes, =09 $lines, $file, $score, $hits) =3D split("\t"); =09 &docdone; =09} } #print qq[in: $in{'sort'}\n]; print "
\n"; print "

Didn't get what you expected? "; print "Look here for searching hints.

"; print qq{

Return to the search page

\n= }; if ($hits =3D=3D 0) { =09print "Nothing found.\n"; } print &html_footer; close(WAISOUT); close(WAISIN); }=09=09=09 # Given an array of sources (sans .src extension), this routine # checks to see if they actually exist, and if they do, if they # are currently available (ie, not being updated). It returns # an array of sources that are actually available. sub checksource { local (@sources) =3D @_; $j =3D 0; foreach $i (@sources) { =09if (stat("$sourcepath/$i.src")) { =09 if (!stat("$sourcepath/$i.update.lock")) { =09 =09$goodsources[$j] =3D $i; =09 =09$j++; =09 } =09} } return(@goodsources); } sub docdone { $file =3D~ s/\.src$//; if ($headline =3D~ /Search produced no result/) { =09print "

The archive $file contains no relevant documents.

= " } else { $headline =3D escape($headline); $headline =3D~ s/\\"/\"/g; if ($file eq "www" || $file =3D~ /^www-[a-z][a-z]$/ || $file eq 'pkgdescr' || $file eq "manpages") { print "
  • $headline\n"; } else { print "
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    "; #=09print ""; =09print "Score: $score; "; =09$_ =3D $date; =09/(...?)(..)(..)/ && ($yr =3D $1 + 1900, $mo =3D $months[$2 - 1], $dy= =3D $3); =09print "Lines: $lines; "; =09print "${dy}-${mo}-${yr}; "; =09print "Archive: $file"; =09print "

    • \n"; } $score =3D $headline =3D $lines =3D $bytes =3D $docid =3D $date =3D $fi= le =3D ''; $yr =3D $mo =3D $dy =3D ''; } $| =3D 1; open (STDERR,"> /dev/null"); #open (STDERR,">> /tmp/search"); eval '&do_wais'; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 11:20:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9045616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C827043D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0IBKqFU052137 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:20:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0IBKpnG052134 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:20:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:20:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:58 -0000 nobody here do backups of their systems? strange?! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 11:23:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C12216A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:23:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418BF43D80 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0IBRLP20447; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:23:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060118112050.iygm56c4o4s0ksog@imp4.free.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: trouble installing new printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:23:52 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >ivan.roth@free.fr >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 AM >To: tedm@toybox.placo.com >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: trouble installing new printer > > >Hi Ted, > >don't worry about what your mail sounds, it is ok :) > >You're right on every points. I do not need to print so much. >In fact, I am >translating the printing chapter of the handbook to french and >I just wanted to >test the parallel interface. I bought this printer for 70$ >(approx.). In fact, >it is just the cost for knowledge :) > >Yes I should have choose a compatible printer, but it was the >cheapest one and I >am sure I will have good results. Some website pointed me to >the BJC-8200 driver >and I got some results with the BJC-800 one. > >I am not a politic man but I think one company you may consider >working for open >source is HP, especially when they give the FBSD foundation >important gifts. I >worked for them and I had to change my job because of their >restructuration >plan (I was like a "collateral damage", not a directly "fired" guy). > >Everybody will have his point of view. I promised myself never buy Canon >printers again after my i320. > >But for sure, when time will come for me to have an >"everyday-printing printer", >I will choose it carefuly, and spend as much money as necessary. > > >P.S: a simple PS just about USB printers: the chapter I am translating >(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html) >said "USB is >superior to RS-232 Serial and to Parallel for printing, but it >is not as well >supported under UNIX® systems." >I will test USB connection of course and maybe submit an update for this >chapter. > Also you can try changing the mode of the parallel port, from ecp to centronics, etc. That can sometimes help. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 11:28:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E89316A42D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856443D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0IBVkP20483; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:28:09 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200601180917.31576.zettel@acm.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: RE: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:28:15 -0000 Maybe it's just me but the idea of a bunch of English speakers sitting around and debating whether or not to permit foreign languages on the mailing list is a bit like a bunch of men sitting around and debating whether or not to legalize abortion. It's an issue that so obviously does not affect the discussors that it's incredible any of them would believe it possibly affects them in any way whatsoever. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Leonard Zettel >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:18 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() > > >On Wednesday 18 January 2006 05:53 am, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net >LLC wrote: >(snip)> I think you need to look up the word "xenophobe" >> >> >> >> There is nothing in having an english-language-only list that fits >> the definition. >> >Them dam furriners oughta get zivilized & learn Anglish! > -LenZ- >(snip) >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release >Date: 1/16/2006 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 11:39:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B17916A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968FF43D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id k0IBdfno023129; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:42 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1401911712; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:37 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:36 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Rithy- System Engineer Message-ID: <20060118113936.GA1583@flame.pc> References: <20060117120029.B5F1A16A422@hub.freebsd.org> <00f201c61bf5$5fd79820$6f01a8c0@ygm.com.kh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f201c61bf5$5fd79820$6f01a8c0@ygm.com.kh> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 28 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:39:45 -0000 On 2006-01-18 13:06, Rithy- System Engineer wrote: > I got FreeBSD 5.3 release installed on my Server but its hard disk and > mainboard are too old and i want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0 with new hard > disk on the same PC how can i do this? > > is it necessary to install any third-party hardware or software? > Rithy Ray > > System Engineer > KhmerServer.NET Hosting > E-mail: rithy_ray@khmerserver.net > sales@rithy4u.net > info@khmercentral.com > URL: www.rithy4u.net > www.khmerserver.net > www.khmercentral.com > H/P: +855-12-403-001 > > [digest trimmed] Please, just DON'T quote the text of an unrelated digest message, including several irrelevant email messages, only to add a single paragraph on top of it all. There are probably many ways to do this. I can think of at least two right now: a) First move the installed system to the new disk, i.e. by using the process described here: http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/2004-10-26/daemonizing-a-new-disk Then, when the system is up and running with its new disk, use the process described in the Handbook, to upgrade from 5.X to 6.X from source: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html b) Remove the old disk. Install a clean 6.0 system. Re-add the old disk as a secondary disk, and restore whatever you want to keep from that one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:13:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B3616A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.r.cullen@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C476143D58 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:13:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.r.cullen@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so1625078nzf for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:13:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NxIRlErt39pcWl2oiiInNDk8VvHVkwKK0FWNWmr2Zbu60SKSyAoEmMVCQgOkeMnGjvKolzh0noDo/Zhv2hVvDTUJ90N90BYx4qUXZ1EmVJRhMQRnm38fTB/ETkgBqi7QE8/5MQ6a1TeG+j5+NpIRL/DBbgoQxTepNnIknbm3ouo= Received: by 10.64.204.6 with SMTP id b6mr1505556qbg; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.245? ( [88.96.18.86]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m3sm3264613qbe.2006.01.18.04.13.28; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:13:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43CE30D4.3030103@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:13:08 +0000 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vinum RAID 1, FreeBSD 4-STABLE & two different size drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:13:32 -0000 Hello :-) I've come across a deal where by I can either buy two identical 20GB drives, or a 20GB drive and a 40GB drive for the same price as the two 20GB's. I was intending to use the drives for a RAID 1 array and have read that ideally the drives should be identical, but it is do-able with different size drives. Obviously as both options are the same price I would like to get more for my money and get the 40GB and 20GB drive, rather than two 20GB's. This should also give me the option of buying only a single 40GB drive later on for cheap if I need to bump the space up a bit, rather than buying two drives. Simple questions really I suppose. Is having two different size drives going to work? Is it going to make configuration trickier in any way? Are there any disadvantages (other than I will be losing out on 20GB on the 40GB drive, and that it's only going to be as fast as the slowest drive I imagine)? I've never ever touched vinum before! Thanks in advance for any advice / comments, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:34:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC2316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [63.240.77.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE6C43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2006011812345101400f2la7e>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:52 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9F7B17024; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:34:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:34:51 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Kilian Hagemann Message-ID: <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Kilian Hagemann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <078501c61b8b$478265d0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:53 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:29:38AM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > On Tuesday 17 January 2006 19:27, Micheal Patterson pondered: > > > The 1663 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) > > > PORT STATE SERVICE > > > 80/tcp open http > > > 554/tcp open rtsp > > > 1755/tcp open wms > > > 5190/tcp open aol > > > > Kilian, what does a sockstat show you on those systems and are there any > > nats on either of these systems that would have a redirect_address to > > something behind them? > > sockstat -4l only shows up the processes serving the LAN (dnsmasq, samba) as > well as sshd: > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTOLOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS > root smbd 484 18 tcp4 192.168.133.1:445 *:* > root smbd 484 19 tcp4 192.168.133.1:139 *:* > root nmbd 480 6 udp4 *:137 *:* > root nmbd 480 7 udp4 *:138 *:* > root nmbd 480 8 udp4 192.168.133.1:137 *:* > root nmbd 480 9 udp4 192.168.133.1:138 *:* > nobody dnsmasq 458 1 udp4 *:56212 *:* > nobody dnsmasq 458 3 udp4 *:53 *:* > nobody dnsmasq 458 4 tcp4 *:53 *:* > nobody dnsmasq 458 5 udp4 *:67 *:* > root sshd 432 3 tcp4 *:22 *:* > root syslogd 311 4 udp4 *:514 *:* > > So nothing suspect at all here. Yes, the systems are natted(with above system > LAN on 192.168.133.0/24), using ppp -nat. I have no specific redirects set > up, and only a "allow tcp/udp from LAN to WAN/any setup keep-state" dynamic > rule, but that should be unrelated. > > If my server is not compromised, how the heck could an http/rtsp/wms/aol > redirect sneak in there without me explicitly enabling it? > Is there any chance you have a router that's forwarding the ports in question to another computer? -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:37:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CE116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51F443D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:37:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 19171 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 23:37:12 +1100 Received: from 203-214-154-44.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO ?192.168.13.3?) (203.214.154.44) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 23:37:12 +1100 Message-ID: <43CE3671.2090903@meijome.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:37:05 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike@ascendency.net References: <000001c61bdb$475294e0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> In-Reply-To: <000001c61bdb$475294e0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB removable drive as dump device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:37:13 -0000 Mike Loiterman wrote: > Using 6.0-RELEASE > > I'm trying to use a USB removable drive as a dump device. [...] > > The issue is when I try to dump to the device: > # dump 0uafL /dev/da0 / I think this is telling dump to treat /dev/da0 as a normal file, which it isn't. it makes sense to say /dev/[your_tape_device] , as you don't dump to a file in the tape, but rather to the tape itself (AFAIK) > > The same thing happens with: > # dump 0uafL /backup / try something like dump 0uafL /backup/`date +%Y%m%H`-0.dump / Beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:41:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4E516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531F843D80 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 19404 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 23:41:14 +1100 Received: from 203-214-154-44.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO ?192.168.13.3?) (203.214.154.44) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 23:41:14 +1100 Message-ID: <43CE3765.1080409@meijome.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:41:09 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:32 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > nobody here do backups of their systems? strange?! what do you base this (false comment) on? Beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:41:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A11C16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A305F43D77 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2006011812411101400f244de>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:19 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2FBDC17024; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:41:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:41:11 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20060118124111.GB69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:41:37 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:20:51PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > nobody here do backups of their systems? strange?! > _______________________________________________ Huh? I do. I'm sure a lot of people do. -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 12:47:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402A216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674EE43D6D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so1591893nzc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:47:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nvPe9nBOxHKg9wX1fYAYU5+xDytNNadVIaZHLFACFkyVHTO7R5KE/lU3Mp7LH66dqyGuxzk7ZYQNqlZ4JDppjtCVOpBJgoBse6VYAYuxeMBX6pHJyJ3cZD/0TnT+12v34gCp5rSmU0TWtdldbqUpOb19VWI3aZqBsB91W+NHRAg= Received: by 10.65.205.8 with SMTP id h8mr4659907qbq; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.72.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:47:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4dd4cddf0601180447i25908100s@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:47:44 +0000 From: Martin Tournoy To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060118001911.0067816A436@hub.freebsd.org> <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:47:49 -0000 > Windows almost runs everything Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years back on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work. > Unix has not matured yet to compete with Microsoft. Yeah, let's just forget that UNIX had stuff like network support before windows even existed... Windows has a few edged on Unix, DirectX for example, but on many points UNIX is really in the lead, the fact that you can't get a driver for some specific card doesn't have anything do to with maturing, but with commerce, Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to make drivers for their OS, FreeBSD is non-profit and can't afford such things... Windows has crap driver management, where you can simply use the ICH driver for just about all Intel integrated sound chips, while you have to get(download) a different driver for all the different chips on windows... Who has matured? > Unix community simply did not get their act together and try to build an = OS > for the masses. The main argument for Unix is it is "Free", but > compatibility and upgrade paths are different issues. Upgrading is a pain on windows, upgrading from 98 to 2000 more or less needs a format and clean install, while on FreeBSD you have much more flexibility, so you can upgrade much easy er. Let's not talk about the windows update site, and 15 reboots required.. Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user friendly G= UI. With Windows on the other hand, you *HAVE* to do things as the Microsoft programmers envisioned and liked things, and lacks a lot of flexibility that FreeBSD does have, which makes FreeBSD for the masses, it doesn't matter if your an average end-luser, or a nerd, or whatever, everyone can do what they want the way they want to do it, you really don't have that kind of flexibility with windows. Everyone should use whatever they prefer to use, but there a couple of very good arguments in favor of FreeBSD, and while there are also arguments in favor of windows they are fewer... Say whatever you want, but the Unix permission system is better than Window's, it much more simple and elegant, which means less headache's, less mistakes and more security. The same goes for window's configuration, the registry, it's not a bad idea, but horribly failed, now you have a huge file with a lot of data, half of it redundant, and the worst is that it's undocumented. FreeBSD simply has a set of configuration files, mostly in /etc and /usr/local/etc most of them have a man page, and an example file in /usr/share/examples/etc This again is simpler, which, again, means less headaches, less mistakes and better security, performance etc. There are tons of examples like this, the fact that windows XP is 1.3 GB in size (Minimal!) is enough to know that windows is loaded with complicated shit, while the much simpler and elegant approach in FreeBSD works better. It's same as physics or biology really, I came across this quote recently: If you encounter a formula more that a quarter of a page long, then forget it, nature doesn't make things that complicated. Nature has been "In development" for billions of years, and learned that simplicity is the key, why do anything different with computers? Windows does... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 13:03:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0454F16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B35743D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.10) id k0ID3lBn043501; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:03:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on site-mgr.plymouth.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.4) with ESMTP id k0ID3lsh043495; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ted Wisniewski Organization: Plymouth State To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:03:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> <09FE5498-82E3-495C-9593-8F1CFF3A3BD6@measuremap.com> In-Reply-To: <09FE5498-82E3-495C-9593-8F1CFF3A3BD6@measuremap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601180803.44265.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> Cc: Michael Barnett Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:03:51 -0000 You weren't by chance also using NFS? I was, all my other 5.x systems did not use NFS and are stable. I saw this same behavior and wound up going back to 4.11 to keep the system stable. Ted On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03:17 pm, Michael Barnett wrote: > To ammend this slightly.. When running the PAE kernel, they will > stay online indefinitely under little to no load. It is only when i > want them to actually work will they freak out and reboot. > > -m > > On Jan 17, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Michael Barnett wrote: > > I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half > > terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on > > these boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is > > all these boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. > > > > uname -a looks like (hostname obscured): > > > > FreeBSD myhost.mydomain.com 5.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9 > > #2: Mon Jan 16 23:27:12 PST 2006 root@myhost.mydomain.com:/usr/ > > obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-PAE i386 > > > > > > My problem is, if i don't enable PAE in the kernel, i can only > > address half the ram in the boxes, but... the machines are stable. > > > > If i do enable PAE, i can address all the memory, but they randomly > > reboot without dumping any errors or logging. > > > > To enable PAE, i am building and booting off the following kernel > > config: > > > > > > include PAE > > > > ident SMP-PAE > > > > options SMP > > options KVA_PAGES=512 > > > > > > I added the KVA_PAGES options hoping to stabilize the machine > > (doesn't seem to have made any difference.) The only other tuning > > i am doing at the moment is in loader.conf: > > > > > > kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" # Set the max data size > > > > > > When i boot without PAE I use the generic SMP kernel, and the > > machine is stable. > > > > I know that there are a number of other kernel tunables i could be > > tweaking, but I am not really sure where to start as the machine > > dies silently. I was hoping that someone who has run a stable PAE > > kernel with 8G of ram + could point me in the right direction. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Michael > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: ted@mail.plymouth.edu | | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/~ted/ | | Information Technology Services | | Plymouth State University Phone: (603) 535-2661 | | Plymouth NH, 03264 Fax: (603) 535-2263 | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 13:16:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5110516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:16:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F36743D5E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.10) id k0IDGTN7043614 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ted@ness.plymouth.edu) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on site-mgr.plymouth.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from ness.plymouth.edu (ness.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.140]) by ness.plymouth.edu (8.13.3/8.12.4) with ESMTP id k0IDGTV9043608 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:16:29 -0500 (EST) From: Ted Wisniewski Organization: Plymouth State To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:16:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601180816.26387.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> Subject: Problem w/ vacation prg using NFS under 6.0p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:16:37 -0000 I am using 6.0-RELEASE-p2 (SMP PAE kernel) and have noticed that the vacation program does not work properly when the .vacation.db is on an NFS partition. The following shows up in the mailllog: Jan 18 07:56:59 mail sendmail[70185]: k0ICuv3r070159: to="| /usr/bin/vacation testuser", ctladdr=testuser@testhost.plymouth.edu (1388/100), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=60954, dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error The same setup has been working on a 4.11 system forever. I have tried compiling vacation from the sendmail source (even tried the version from the 4.11 system). I tried it under 5.4 (non PAE kernel), same behavior. This is definitely a problem that appears to be in 5.4 and 6.0. Any Ideas? -- | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: ted@mail.plymouth.edu | | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/~ted/ | | Information Technology Services | | Plymouth State University Phone: (603) 535-2661 | | Plymouth NH, 03264 Fax: (603) 535-2263 | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 13:56:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692E116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:56:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2910C43D55 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1EzDnU-00035y-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:24 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> In-Reply-To: <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:56:29 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 14:34, Ken Stevenson pondered: > Is there any chance you have a router that's forwarding the ports > in question to another computer? Not that I know of. The setup is quite simple: wireless ethernet(PPPoE) ethernet ISP<------->Modem<------>FreeBSD gateway<------->LAN FreeBSD is my router with ppp -ddial -nat and a custom ipfw script that blocks all incoming connections while allowing legitimate traffic out (with keep-state rules). Check this out: ftp gives 220 Frox transparent ftp proxy. Login with username[@host[:port]] Name (...) I have never even heard of "frox" before, but after some googling it turns out that it's a GPL'ed transparent ftp proxy... Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I just verified that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even though no sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and sendmail_enable="None" on both. My servers have been compromised, fantastic. And that with an initial firewall'ed setup that left NO open ports (I verified that a while ago with nmap). So much for my impression that FreeBSD was secure. How could this have happened? ipfw buffer overflow? Some other unknown vulnerability? I really wanna find out how they got in (syslog offers no clues btw, I've been rootkitted after all :-( Any suggestions other than format/reinstall/tripwire? -- Kilian Hagemann Climate Systems Analysis Group University of Cape Town Republic of South Africa Tel(w): ++27 21 650 2748 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:01:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99E516A422 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C2D43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1238725wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZACd/G0HGWY1cpFLUmFF0IR4ZgKXuuLVpioFFrqBGfhhjnsi4PVBsot0cCbJHOl7oFZHdxnOCqu4BUesFbB7SaQ4IQu1i4nZojttGPHPIwgqyAdOSy4exOtLYG3ZcN9wexLYzzpxBxmJ5poWcjhczikHJ8T6cua2CLH0ajtZMGs= Received: by 10.70.75.2 with SMTP id x2mr10661091wxa; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:00:59 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4dd4cddf0601180447i25908100s@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060118001911.0067816A436@hub.freebsd.org> <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> <4dd4cddf0601180447i25908100s@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:01:00 -0000 [Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the last 24 hours. If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.] Can we please stop comparing *NIX to windows. They're nothing like each other. Like all software, they bothsuck in their own unique ways, it's just that BSD sucks in areas I mainly don't care about, and windows sucks at most of the things I do care about. On 18/01/06, Martin Tournoy wrote: > > Windows almost runs everything > Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years back > on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work. So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > make drivers for their OS, I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with their market share. > Upgrading is a pain on windows, upgrading from 98 to 2000 more or less > needs a format and clean install, while on FreeBSD you have much more > flexibility, so you can upgrade much easy er. Have you ever brought 4.x up to 6.x? It doesn't sound like it. There are tools to solve this for windows, and there has been for a long time. Try updating 200 FreeBSD boxes, then try the same with a decent imaging system for windows. > Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user friendly= GUI. Then it isn't for the masses. Deal with it. > With Windows on the other hand, you *HAVE* to do things as the > Microsoft programmers envisioned and liked things, and lacks a lot of > flexibility that FreeBSD does have Can you justify that at all? If what you're saying boils down to 'you have the source' then I don't think that applies to 99% of users. > Say whatever you want, but the Unix permission system is better than > Window's, it much more simple It's also very outdated and has been reinvented several times. RBAC, SeLinux and MAC would indicate it's not flexible enough for most people. > The same goes for window's configuration, the registry, it's not a bad > idea, but horribly failed, now you have a huge file with a lot of > data, half of it redundant, and the worst is that it's undocumented. > FreeBSD simply has a set of configuration files, mostly in /etc and > /usr/local/etc most of them have a man page, and an example file in > /usr/share/examples/etc That's not in itself a good thing. As I understand it, the registry is a ce= ntral place for storing configuration details. /etc has nothing like that. Think of something simple like a webserver docroot. Apache obviously needs to know about that, so might your ftp server, your backup/mirror scripts an= d so on. If you ever change that directories location, you'll have to update everything that references that path. That's a pain in the arse, and it's only one of dozens of annoyances with /etc. The arguments you're making above equally apply to 4.x /etc, and I don't think you'd argue that rcNG is a vast improvement. Have a look at things like Solaris SMF and you realise that rcNG isn't as g= ood as it could be either. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:26:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCB816A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:26:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D3B43D5D for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:26:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18E8D2EFDC for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:25:39 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: yR9sN6bGLjENGk9DsK08HAL5QbXB5eS+97I5cLzY2wTX 1137594338 Received: from localhost (mdsnwikwbas08-pool4-a199.mdsnwikw.tds.net [69.129.195.199]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F76571516 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:25:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:25:37 -0600 From: Will Maier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118142537.GE15667@merkur.atekomi.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:26:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:56:32PM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > I have never even heard of "frox" before, but after some googling > it turns out that it's a GPL'ed transparent ftp proxy... Where's it pointing? > Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I > just verified that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even > though no sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and > sendmail_enable="None" on both. What do you see when you connect to the SMTP ports? Are they really mail servers, or just rogue services running on 25? > My servers have been compromised, fantastic. And that with an > initial firewall'ed setup that left NO open ports (I verified that > a while ago with nmap). So much for my impression that FreeBSD was > secure. My condolences; what you describe, though, doesn't really suggest that /FreeBSD/ is insecure. In the vast majority of these situations (and yes, I have found myself in your shoes before), the operator (you or I) is to blame. > How could this have happened? ipfw buffer overflow? Some other > unknown vulnerability? Ockham's razor: the simplest is also the most likely solution. You're running Samba; is there any chance that that service or your configuration of it could have opened a hole? How many people have user accounts on that box? Do you allow ChallengeResponseAuthentication on SSH? Key only? > I really wanna find out how they got in (syslog offers no clues > btw, I've been rootkitted after all :-( You'll need to do a more sophisticated forensic analysis, then, to figure out what happened. Some basic questions: were you running a file integrity monitor? What did it say? Do you have logs that were remotely backed up (and, therefore, likely still accurate)? What do they say? Do you have any network monitoring that might have recorded an intrusion? What services /should/ be running on the box (I don't think this was ever actually listed -- it would be useful to know)? Do you have dumps of the traffic leaving or entering the box? Again, this is a tough and very unfortunate position to be in -- I sympathize. It may very well not be worth the time it takes to fully investigate the source of the compromise. Real forensic analysis is outside most of our job descriptions; I know that my skillset doesn't cover it well enough. An inept investigation can be much worse than no investigation at all: consider (if you can afford it) bringing in someone who can do a quick, good job of it. > Any suggestions other than format/reinstall/tripwire? I can't think of any better ideas. Certainly, I'd add updating the system to your list. Even if the Security Alerts don't seem to effect your set up, I find it's good practice to apply them in a reasonable amount of time. At the very least, it keeps me in touch with my boxes and lets me develop a routine in case an alert does effect me. Good luck! -- o--------------------------{ Will Maier }--------------------------o | jabber:..wcmaier@jabber.ccc.de | email:..........wcmaier@ml1.net | | \.........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | \..........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | *------------------[ BSD Unix: Live Free or Die ]------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:28:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0789716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C3643D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so169994wri for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:27:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NwUrWrt+8JXcyzY9H3uHRkTfSCGC6Y0YdQGJJxeA/hGjo6MKxOy4+C+HDlEfJ7sthVXpj8UCpLNKCVUvTdEz0H0g+HcKEDjpUEKQrTkk3rY/Grtj8UPZqS+iKucwGstDaE26JYjVNOezLYh7Qo+Cp8eO2TM9wl31TSzZh23J26w= Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr1144887wrd; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.156.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:27:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:27:59 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:01 -0000 Howdy List... I am trying to figure out if ipf is running for certain. FreeBSD 6.0-RELEAS= E . I added the following to /etc/rc.conf : ipfilter_enable=3D"YES" ipmon_enable=3D"YES" ipmon_flags=3D"-Dsvn" ipnat_enable=3D"YES" ipfs_enable=3D"YES" I added a rule file /etc/ipf.conf , and flushed/reloaded ipf with the command # ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.conf I have rebooted since the additions to /etc/rc.conf ps aux | grep ipf Shows nothing. I do see ipmon in there however. ipfstat command, shows me stats, so I suppose it is running, but I assumed (incorrectly?) that I would "see" ipf with ps aux . Thanks y'all, Gable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:28:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAD616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3C943D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crispy.beef@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060118142809.CFGZ6790.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [82.12.81.129]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060118142809.IRSX20369.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.0.2]>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:09 +0000 Message-ID: <43CE5077.3060203@ntlworld.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:07 +0000 From: Crispy Beef User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kilian Hagemann References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:28:12 -0000 > Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I just verified > that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even though no > sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and sendmail_enable="None" on > both. For what it's worth, to disable senmail on 5.0 and later, you need: sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" All those lines need to go in your /etc/rc.conf file, just the top line on it's own will only stop mail coming into your system and I think it has to be "NO" not "None", but I'm not 100% on that. The above is from the Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:51:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9CC16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75B1043D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 79645 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 15:13:45 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 15:13:45 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:13:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <44255.195.139.252.5.1137597225.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <43CE5077.3060203@ntlworld.com> References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181129.38634.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118123451.GA69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <43CE5077.3060203@ntlworld.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:13:45 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Crispy Beef" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Kilian Hagemann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:51:30 -0000 sendmail_enable="NONE" would do the same as all that other crap mentioned i find it a waste of time trying to figure out how a hacker got in just format the machine reinstall freebsd and secure the box up a bit and try updating it when vulnerabilitie are out. And this shouldnt happen again >> Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I just >> verified >> that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even though no >> sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and >> sendmail_enable="None" on >> both. > > For what it's worth, to disable senmail on 5.0 and later, you need: > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > All those lines need to go in your /etc/rc.conf file, just the top line on > it's own will only stop mail coming into your system and I think it has to > be > "NO" not "None", but I'm not 100% on that. > > The above is from the Handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-changingmta.html > > -- > Paul > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 14:54:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: from admin.i13i.com (admin.i13i.com [66.90.92.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BE643D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@i13i.com) Received: (qmail 80522 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 15:16:40 -0000 Received: from mail.i13i.com (HELO webmail.i13i.com) (208.53.187.133) by admin.i13i.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 15:16:40 -0000 Received: from 195.139.252.5 (proxying for 62.92.188.12) (SquirrelMail authenticated user chris@i13i.com) by webmail.i13i.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:16:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45377.195.139.252.5.1137597400.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:16:40 -0600 (CST) From: chris@i13i.com To: "Gable Barber" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:54:25 -0000 ipf runs as a kernel module or compiled into the kernel you will never see it running as a normal program you will know it is running by testing your firewall to make sure it does what it was meant to do > Howdy List... > I am trying to figure out if ipf is running for certain. FreeBSD > 6.0-RELEASE > . > > > > I added the following to /etc/rc.conf : > > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" > ipnat_enable="YES" > ipfs_enable="YES" > > I added a rule file /etc/ipf.conf , and flushed/reloaded ipf with the > command > > # ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.conf > > I have rebooted since the additions to /etc/rc.conf > > ps aux | grep ipf > > Shows nothing. I do see ipmon in there however. > > ipfstat command, shows me stats, so I suppose it is running, but I assumed > (incorrectly?) that I would "see" ipf with ps aux . > > Thanks y'all, > Gable > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:02:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25EC16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:02:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CF843D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:02:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31542 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 15:02:38 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Jan 2006 15:02:38 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9B43928423; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:02:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Steven Friedrich References: <200601152144.53719.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Jan 2006 10:02:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200601152144.53719.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <44zmltziia.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ataraid doesn't support dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:02:39 -0000 Steven Friedrich writes: > I've recently upgraded from 5.4 to 6-Stable. > > I'm using the "ar" ataraid device on my Promise controller on the ASUS > moboard. > > Are there any plans to add dump support to the ar driver? I'm not aware of any such limitation; you should probably talk to the author of the driver. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:16:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4BE16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8789943D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (pcp0011427575pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net[69.246.103.241]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011815160601300d8mgqe>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:07 +0000 From: Leonard Zettel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:19:20 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601181519.20899.zettel@acm.org> Cc: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zettel@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:09 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:28 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Maybe it's just me but the idea of a bunch of English speakers > sitting around and debating whether or not to permit foreign > languages on the mailing list is a bit like a bunch of men sitting > around and debating whether or not to legalize abortion. > > It's an issue that so obviously does not affect the discussors > that it's incredible any of them would believe it possibly affects > them in any way whatsoever. > > Ted > Wekk op n smehl da Kaffe, dood! Effn ah kaint reed et, how dew ah no et aint L kadeh plennen to rep muh guhrl? bee jes lahk duh bestads ta yoose Politch! -LenZ- > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Leonard Zettel > >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:18 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Cc: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > >Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() > > > > > >On Wednesday 18 January 2006 05:53 am, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net > >LLC wrote: > >(snip)> I think you need to look up the word "xenophobe" > > > >> > >> > >> There is nothing in having an english-language-only list that fits > >> the definition. > > > >Them dam furriners oughta get zivilized & learn Anglish! > > -LenZ- > >(snip) > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release > >Date: 1/16/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:25:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7F016A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BEC43D4C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D2440A6 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id C555A54360; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20060118162506.5ji2bvmtus888wo8@imp4.free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:06 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:04 -0000 >Wekk op n smehl da Kaffe, dood! >Effn ah kaint reed et, how dew ah no et >aint L kadeh plennen to rep muh guhrl? >bee jes lahk duh bestads ta yoose Politch! > -LenZ- C'est du Klingon ?? -- ivan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:25:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C905016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2199043D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900492E0A7; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE5E22.4080605@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:26 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gable Barber References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:37 -0000 Gable Barber wrote: > Howdy List... > I am trying to figure out if ipf is running for certain. FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE > . > > > > I added the following to /etc/rc.conf : > > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" > ipnat_enable="YES" > ipfs_enable="YES" > > I added a rule file /etc/ipf.conf , and flushed/reloaded ipf with the > command > > # ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.conf > > I have rebooted since the additions to /etc/rc.conf > > ps aux | grep ipf > > Shows nothing. I do see ipmon in there however. > > ipfstat command, shows me stats, so I suppose it is running, but I assumed > (incorrectly?) that I would "see" ipf with ps aux . Yes, incorrectly, if you have any rules with the log key word, then you can se if you get any entries in your log files. I would have default rules first in my rule set: block log in all block log out all And then pass what I positively know is good. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:28:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B4B16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60022.mail.yahoo.com (web60022.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B6AD43D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:28:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 46594 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 15:28:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3NkbuSfBKjeh5UfFdNODeQJ7rq8GlBOmrPMTsUzMUz/5hYcnSEhgOpvQzSa8iN1JtFxTUDcbiTIxoSQPfKtAqFnK5zAs1UkNxlL3PrbjCbpqkBl//5L3AalOxAVtuQSFvDA7CR9XmvFTCurRRodxPHyxldE7q42EmCjG6hAaZ8c= ; Message-ID: <20060118152806.46592.qmail@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.252.85.69] by web60022.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:28:06 EST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:28:06 -0500 (EST) From: Peter To: Gable Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:28:09 -0000 --- Gable Barber wrote: > Howdy List... > I am trying to figure out if ipf is running for certain. FreeBSD > 6.0-RELEASE > . > > > > I added the following to /etc/rc.conf : > > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" > ipnat_enable="YES" > ipfs_enable="YES" > > I added a rule file /etc/ipf.conf , and flushed/reloaded ipf with the > command > > # ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.conf > > I have rebooted since the additions to /etc/rc.conf > > ps aux | grep ipf > > Shows nothing. I do see ipmon in there however. > > ipfstat command, shows me stats, so I suppose it is running, but I > assumed > (incorrectly?) that I would "see" ipf with ps aux . Switch over to pf. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:38:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72E16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:38:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EFF43D64 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:38:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1EzFOT-0003jI-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:38:41 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:38:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118142537.GE15667@merkur.atekomi.net> In-Reply-To: <20060118142537.GE15667@merkur.atekomi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_KEmzDyYRq1gatgq" Message-Id: <200601181738.50725.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:38:46 -0000 --Boundary-00=_KEmzDyYRq1gatgq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Will Maier pondered: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:56:32PM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > > I have never even heard of "frox" before, but after some googling > > it turns out that it's a GPL'ed transparent ftp proxy... > > Where's it pointing? No idea, I only went as far as trying to login anonymously using a console based ftp client. How could I find out? > > Also, I said smtp ports were open on the machines in question, I > > just verified that I can send emails via BOTH these systems even > > though no sendmail/exim/whatever was ever installed by me and > > sendmail_enable="None" on both. > > What do you see when you connect to the SMTP ports? Are they really > mail servers, or just rogue services running on 25? They are really mail servers, at least smtp for outgoing mails (don't know about incoming though). I used kmail to configure them as standard outgoing smtp mail servers and successfully sent myself two emails, one via each server. Surely a default, out of the box, unconfigured and sendmail_enable="None" sendmail process wouldn't allow for something like that, never mind the fact that the firewall is supposed to block ANY access from the outside (output of ipfw show is attached) > > My servers have been compromised, fantastic. And that with an > > initial firewall'ed setup that left NO open ports (I verified that > > a while ago with nmap). So much for my impression that FreeBSD was > > secure. > > My condolences; what you describe, though, doesn't really suggest > that /FreeBSD/ is insecure. In the vast majority of these situations > (and yes, I have found myself in your shoes before), the operator > (you or I) is to blame. Alright, I guest that's a fair assumption. But that's what this thread is about: What (if anything) did I do wrong? > > How could this have happened? ipfw buffer overflow? Some other > > unknown vulnerability? > > Ockham's razor: the simplest is also the most likely solution. > You're running Samba; is there any chance that that service or your > configuration of it could have opened a hole? How many people have > user accounts on that box? Do you allow > ChallengeResponseAuthentication on SSH? Key only? Well, I didn't worry about samba because it's firewalled to the outside(unless some Windows virus on one of the LAN machines exploited a samba hole, is that likely?). There is only one single normal user account with an uncommon name and an impossible password(16 characters randomly generated from ASCII charset). ChallengeResponseAuthentication is commented out in sshd which I guess means it uses the standard PAM authentication. It also allows password/interactive authentication in addition to public key, I always use the former. I do admit that I have set "PermitRootLogin yes" but my root password is 9 characters with numbers and non-alphanumeric characters, so hard to brute-force. In any case, it's important to note that the only access from the outside via ssh/rsync is firewalled in such a way that it only allows access from a single IP address which my institution assigns me statically via DHCP (see attachment). They would have had to a) find out what this one and only trusted IP address is b) spoof it successfully c) attack ssh brute force? > > I really wanna find out how they got in (syslog offers no clues > > btw, I've been rootkitted after all :-( > > You'll need to do a more sophisticated forensic analysis, then, to > figure out what happened. Some basic questions: were you running a > file integrity monitor? What did it say? Do you have logs that were > remotely backed up (and, therefore, likely still accurate)? What do > they say? Do you have any network monitoring that might have > recorded an intrusion? What services /should/ be running on the box > (I don't think this was ever actually listed -- it would be useful > to know)? Do you have dumps of the traffic leaving or entering the > box? Well, I thought my setup was secure enough for a very basic router/gateway/firewall for a couple of Windows machines using a sucky internet connection which is not worth stealing. So I didn't go through the effort of using a file integrity monitor, remote logging, traffic dumps or network monitors (jeez, sysadmins lives are really difficult these days :-( ) The services that should be running on the box are: LAN only: samba, dnsmasq LAN and WAN: ssh/rsync I wanted to use rsync with ssh authentication/remote shell to sync my /etc and /usr/etc to my workstation and then comparing the "update" with a static copy to find out if anything had changed. But before I could do that, the one server mysteriously had its ssh/rsync disabled and I didn't take a healthy copy of /etc of the other one to begin with :-( > Again, this is a tough and very unfortunate position to be in -- I > sympathize. It may very well not be worth the time it takes to fully > investigate the source of the compromise. Real forensic analysis is > outside most of our job descriptions; I know that my skillset > doesn't cover it well enough. An inept investigation can be much > worse than no investigation at all: consider (if you can afford it) > bringing in someone who can do a quick, good job of it. > > Any suggestions other than format/reinstall/tripwire? > > I can't think of any better ideas. Certainly, I'd add updating the > system to your list. Even if the Security Alerts don't seem to > effect your set up, I find it's good practice to apply them in a > reasonable amount of time. At the very least, it keeps me in touch > with my boxes and lets me develop a routine in case an alert does > effect me. Thanks a ton for the help and advice, I'll see what I can do. -- Kilian Hagemann --Boundary-00=_KEmzDyYRq1gatgq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="ipfw_show.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ipfw_show.txt" # output of ipfw show. I edited it to remove all count rules(merely used for traffic accounting), # some unreach rules to prevent some LAN clients from accessing the internet altogether # and substituted some ip blocks for privacy purposes. LAN_NET is the LAN subnet, # MY_OUTSIDE_IP is the unique and only ip address that is allowed to login from the outside via ssh/rsync 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny log ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 0 0 deny log ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00500 0 0 deny log ip from any to any not verrevpath in via tun0 02400 0 0 check-state 02500 4083 2273839 allow tcp from { LAN_NET or me } to any setup keep-state 02600 305 25468 allow ip from any to any via vr0 02700 77 8094 allow udp from { LAN_NET or me } to any keep-state 02800 1 485 deny log udp from any to any 02900 2367 391644 allow tcp from MY_OUTSIDE_IP to me dst-port 22,873 via tun0 setup keep-sta te 03000 61 5068 allow icmp from { LAN_NET or me } to any 03100 62 5208 allow icmp from any to { LAN_NET or dst-ip me } icmptypes 0,3,11 03200 47 4536 deny log ip from any to any 65535 0 0 allow ip from any to any --Boundary-00=_KEmzDyYRq1gatgq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:44:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3EA16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31CA43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so188392wri for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iMyEt7j2faaLOh6o+9D+SpOb0p5NQ4aOzsd61PBUz3wud8eokGnrk5HrsrkXjeL7DjSE/zV9HU9fRR0F5xi/uWdHuKog07XrpwrZ9vczrsAONmkoYtor1y3Llbho+PNl8+DffgNVChSTgNtJieSErwIKMw2CjER809lfKzNgUiE= Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr1231451wrd; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.156.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:44:15 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <43CE5E22.4080605@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43CE5E22.4080605@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:44:17 -0000 > > > > Yes, incorrectly, if you have any rules with the log key word, then you > can se if you get any entries in your log files. I would have default > rules first in my rule set: > > block log in all > block log out all > > And then pass what I positively know is good. > > Cheers, Erik > It seems mostly my misunderstanding of ipf being a kernel module and not showing up with ps aux.There are log entries, ipfstat shows contuning stats= , and ipmon shows what is being filtered/passed, etc. Thanks everyone for your quick, concise responses. Gable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:46:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1C216A424 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B117543D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so190404wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:46:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JFLE5f+2GKl3blL5LOWlIFsOWs0c4VEt+hlSS4PQXsMyG8WFdUrQtOuPbOoDf8mxBoJfzH6zaJHt7uMbwPi3Gp1iDCrsCGm9/4aPn7U8Xpef0FoYCbCQz5gQ3CtJCH+J1etrFJBPbQ8GFxW4G19gPhNBqctR1tdyQGris3Jjqog= Received: by 10.54.81.19 with SMTP id e19mr1207254wrb; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.156.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:46:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:46:38 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: Peter In-Reply-To: <20060118152806.46592.qmail@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060118152806.46592.qmail@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:43 -0000 On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: > > > Switch over to pf. > > > > Why do you suggest PF over IPF? Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in the opinions. Gable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:46:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3645D16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6177B43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1EzFWD-0003m1-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:46:41 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:46:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <43CE5077.3060203@ntlworld.com> <44255.195.139.252.5.1137597225.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> In-Reply-To: <44255.195.139.252.5.1137597225.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601181746.51461.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:46:45 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 17:13, chris@i13i.com pondered: > sendmail_enable="NONE" would do the same as all that other crap mentioned > i find it a waste of time trying to figure out how a hacker got in just > format the machine reinstall freebsd and secure the box up a bit and try > updating it when vulnerabilitie are out. And this shouldnt happen again Yeah, I'll have to look into that NONE vs all NO individually because it gave me hassles from the beginning (STILL sendmail stuff in /var/log/messages after disabling with NONE), but the important thing here is outside sendmail access was firewalled (see my other post and its attachment for ipfw rules). Anyway, I guess you're right, reinstalling and beefing up security will be easier. I just thought that if they didn't get in through brute-forcing my sshd (the only vulnerability I can think of so far), and the attack came from the internet (not some worm/virus on one of the Windows machines), it's some unpublished vulnerability in some part of FreeBSD that I'm sure others would like to know about. But hey, from what you guys are telling me that seems unlikely... -- Kilian Hagemann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:56:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D0C16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60014.mail.yahoo.com (web60014.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1122D43D8A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 46320 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 15:55:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HMorBJSerpyjk8K87CpTkzTC6XPLI/GEUG35RyO/hiNtc2cPWczWBRh0XrEDWSG+cyj/zC+t27uGmFT9hiTGBOEwGw504EThkDYMf7in6znA5+ecBNH5WxNDpQLY8B0hoTO9bey+dC/stbKonoSfNxeTiiuOeXCAl4GU8sgia5U= ; Message-ID: <20060118155542.46318.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.252.85.69] by web60014.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:55:42 EST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:55:42 -0500 (EST) From: Peter To: Gable Barber In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:56:43 -0000 --- Gable Barber wrote: > On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: > > > > > > Switch over to pf. > > > > > > > > > Why do you suggest PF over IPF? All I can say is that I remember using ipf when I was on OpenBSD 2.9. At 3.0 it went to pf and ever since then I've been extremely pleased with its syntax, versatility, and power. It is the jewel in the OBSD crown and now FBSD has been blessed with a port of it. Naturally, it is always about 1 full release behind. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 15:58:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32AA16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B755743D66 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EzFgM-0005Jl-5F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:57:10 +0100 Received: from 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.44.12.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:57:10 +0100 Received: from matiassurdi by 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:57:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:55:27 +0100 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.red-83-44-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: KNode/0.10 Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:21 -0000 poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? > Greetings > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Give a look at gentoo .... it's inspired by FreeBSD, and is linux as well.... the portage system works great... and as a personal opinion: Use gentoo for Home / Desktop / Office use.... use FreeBSD For web/ftp/file/ etc.. Servers..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:03:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E05A16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871D043D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80625B904 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:02:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87678-07 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:02:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.44] (pleiades.aeternal.net [192.168.0.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70340B903 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:02:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE66AE.7010807@aeternal.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:02:54 +0100 From: Martin Hudec User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060118162506.5ji2bvmtus888wo8@imp4.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <20060118162506.5ji2bvmtus888wo8@imp4.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corwin@aeternal.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:03:00 -0000 Hello, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: >> Wekk op n smehl da Kaffe, dood! >> Effn ah kaint reed et, how dew ah no et >> aint L kadeh plennen to rep muh guhrl? >> bee jes lahk duh bestads ta yoose Politch! >> -LenZ- > > C'est du Klingon ?? > freebsd-babylon@freebsd.org :) Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:07:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B498016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:07:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gandalf@messias.qhigh.com) Received: from messias.qhigh.com (53d82769.adsl.enternet.hu [83.216.39.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A75143D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:07:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gandalf@messias.qhigh.com) Received: from [172.16.0.26] (earth.msnet [172.16.0.26]) by messias.qhigh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477725C1F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:13:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:08:09 +0100 From: User Gandalf User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Share desktop with XOrg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:07:15 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to share a desktop under the XOrg server? Is there a port for this? I'm aware of the -display option of X based programs. What I need is not a remote desktop connection. I would like to share my desktop to another user so he can see what I see. Thanks, Les From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:21:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27E516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:21:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007EE43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BB84420C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:21:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 206B0543EC; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:21:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:21:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20060118172146.kzky6ob74og8kowc@imp4.free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:21:46 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: loosing hair inside canon printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:21:44 -0000 Hi, Thanks all first, for the help you gave me yesterday. I begin hating Canon. Still nothing printed. I am going to gathered all information about what I did and hope you could give me something :) For the moment, I only want to be able to print the more disgusting raw text, even only "hello world!", without the "!" if it is too much complicated. But I want it with a line like echo "hello world" > /dev/lpt0 Why do this so simple line not work? I don't know anything about ECP, EPP and Centronics, but I tested all the configuration from BIOS. I have "Standard", "ECP", "EPP" and "EPP+ECP" choices. For each one I have to choose IRQ, DMA and sometimes another one. For now it is set to Standard, IRQ 7 DMA 3 (BIOS default). This said, I have this in dmesg: ---------------- ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 flags 0x28 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP-only) in ECP mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 flags 0x28 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP-only) in ECP mode ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster3,BSCCe plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 ppi0: on ppbus0 ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster3,BSCCe plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 ppi0: on ppbus0 ---------------- simple question: how freebsd know about the name of my printer? note the flags 0x28 I had to /boot/device.hints after reading a tutorial. I am going to remove it as it makes nothing better. And maybe it is the reason of my last issue. # chkprintcap chkprintcap: WARNING: found 1 entries when skimming /etc/printcap chkprintcap: WARNING: but only found 0 queues to process! Note that this is already too far since I want an output with redirection (> /dev/lpt0). Of course, I am still searching over the web for some still unknown website with useful information. -- Thank you, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:24:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A016A423 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD61543D5C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1EzG6b-0003ws-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:24:17 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:24:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> In-Reply-To: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601181824.27154.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: Re: Share desktop with XOrg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:24:32 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:08, User Gandalf pondered: > Is it possible to share a desktop under the XOrg server? Is there a port > for this? I'm aware of the -display option of X based programs. What I > need is not a remote desktop connection. I would like to share my > desktop to another user so he can see what I see. Yes, the stock Xorg server doesn't though. You could use VNC, but in my experience that just opens up another X display where you login separately using kdm/gdm/xdm or whatever. I suggest you use KDE's desktop sharing (krfb, in the menu under "System", part of the "kdenetwork" package, tested on 3.4.1). Does what you want. -- Kilian Hagemann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:25:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854B916A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@nabble.com) Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E659343D5A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@nabble.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=talk.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EzG7v-0004v2-9X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:25:39 -0800 Message-ID: <2450263.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: "progerstis (sent by Nabble.com)" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6334c6e20511220726r5a783117gf656252aaa012d4c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Nabble-Sender: Nabble Forums X-Nabble-From: progerstis References: <6334c6e20511220626s7d2b7821v58c477f8655a6d73@mail.gmail.com> <6334c6e20511220726r5a783117gf656252aaa012d4c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: create/symlink failed, no inodes free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: progerstis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:25:43 -0000 The same error appeared frequently when I tried to install FreeBSD on an 8.5GB partition. Apparently it was because the root partition was running out of space. So instead of using the auto-option to divide up and create the different (logical?) partitions I created one root partition that is 8000MB and a swap partition that is ~500MB. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/create-symlink-failed%2C-no-inodes-free-t598801.html#a2450263 Sent from the freebsd-questions forum at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:26:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D1C16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712D843D4C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.atosorigin.es [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536DA2E0A5; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:26:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE6C7C.2040307@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:27:40 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gable Barber References: <20060118152806.46592.qmail@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:26:47 -0000 Gable Barber wrote: > On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: >> >> Switch over to pf. >> > Why do you suggest PF over IPF? > > Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in the > opinions. I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some version that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed since but I have found no reason to go back. There are two things I miss from IPF: a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a state is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not counted. b) an active and inactive ruleset: To load a new ruleset you'll have to flush everything. You can check syntax of rules before loading and pf loads all or nothing, so if there is a syntax error in your ruleset it won't be loaded. BUT: You may make syntactically correct changes that yet contain errors: Just say you wrote: block in all from 10.0.0.0/2 but meant block in all from 10.0.0.0/24 In IPF I always used: # ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s to give me 60 seconds to verify that I didn't lock myself out. Now, that is compensated by in PF you can flush and reload the rules only, keeping existing states, so the connection you use for maintenance is not torn down. The pros for PF are some features to prevent DDoS against servers behind your firewall, and advanced queuing features and CARP. The use of macros and tables makes it easier to maintain rules, but the lack of groups means you have to be more careful structuring your ruleset: Rules are read top down _always_ in IPF I really liked groups, even though I always kept rules together. It just made it more explicit that rules went the same place. PF uses some clever skip ahead to gain the speed that proper use of groups give in IPF, and tests have shown that pf is faster than IPF in particular when rulesets grow large. but you need to be careful writing rules: IPF sample: block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any head 10 pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 group 10 PF sample: block in from 10.0.0.0/24 to any pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any The thing is that in the first line of the IPF sample, a default action is made for that group. packets matching the head rule but no rules in the group will take that action. In PF you'll have to include that extra rule in the end to get the same behavior. So, in short, ipf is really simple and comparatively easy to work with, the lack of macros means you generally have to write more but this also makes it more explicit what happens as packets traverse the ruleset. pf has some really nice features in particular in more complex setups. The use of macros means that you can create compact rulesets that can easily be adopted to other systems or setups. Use what you feel most comfortable with. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:38:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1067616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:38:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CAC43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id k0IGcJvm002291; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:38:19 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 170E0115BD; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:38:17 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:38:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matias Message-ID: <20060118163816.GA34709@flame.pc> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:38:25 -0000 On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias wrote: > poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora > > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? > > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? > > Give a look at gentoo .... it's inspired by FreeBSD, and is linux as > well.... the portage system works great... and as a personal opinion: Use > gentoo for Home / Desktop / Office use.... use FreeBSD For web/ftp/file/ > etc.. Servers..... Nah. Why use something that is "BSD-like" when you can get the Real Thing(TM) for free? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:52:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5624516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E5C43D6A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.7a) with ESMTP id 38152618 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:52:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:52:34 -0500 To: Free BSD Questions list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-1980812739 X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:52:41 -0000 On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Matias wrote: > poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > >> What is the essential difference >> between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? >> Where can I find any list of differences? >> What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? >> Greetings >> Greg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Give a look at gentoo .... it's inspired by FreeBSD, and is linux as > well.... the portage system works great... and as a personal opinion: > Use > gentoo for Home / Desktop / Office use.... use FreeBSD For > web/ftp/file/ > etc.. Servers..... What the heck? No one has mentioned how Plan 9 TROUNCES FreeBSD AND Linux! In EVERYTHING! I've installed it on my notebook, my home server, three workstations, my Palm Pilot, telephone, coffeemaker, and my GE Refrigerator's ice maker. We had a power hiccup three days ago and my house became sentient! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:53:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982E816A422 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA08C43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gablebarber@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so206553wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MuGmQm6a/FbWdOGDrwHin2mPouPiziwGABktac9ALc6Ift+gH1EwPBGRze7bm4OKIH287TnCsPC7A5WstqMWL8IDNnUOig7GZi5xZKyYSD6511o13EizT+tpN4sZQXKaIAVGKhEssd/a8YcpLFdOER7tYAo8YgFp4P5hjZnRcn4= Received: by 10.54.65.5 with SMTP id n5mr1292117wra; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.156.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:53:08 -0600 From: Gable Barber To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <43CE6C7C.2040307@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060118152806.46592.qmail@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> <43CE6C7C.2040307@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:12 -0000 On 1/18/06, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > Gable Barber wrote: > > On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: > >> > >> Switch over to pf. > >> > > Why do you suggest PF over IPF? > > > > Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in th= e > > opinions. > > I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some version > that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed since > but I have found no reason to go back. > > There are two things I miss from IPF: > > a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful > filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a state > is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not > counted. > > b) an active and inactive ruleset: To load a new ruleset you'll have to > flush everything. You can check syntax of rules before loading and pf > loads all or nothing, so if there is a syntax error in your ruleset it > won't be loaded. BUT: You may make syntactically correct changes that > yet contain errors: Just say you wrote: > > block in all from 10.0.0.0/2 > > but meant > > block in all from 10.0.0.0/24 > > In IPF I always used: > > # ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s > > to give me 60 seconds to verify that I didn't lock myself out. > > Now, that is compensated by in PF you can flush and reload the rules > only, keeping existing states, so the connection you use for maintenance > is not torn down. > > The pros for PF are some features to prevent DDoS against servers behind > your firewall, and advanced queuing features and CARP. The use of macros > and tables makes it easier to maintain rules, but the lack of groups > means you have to be more careful structuring your ruleset: > > Rules are read top down _always_ in IPF I really liked groups, even > though I always kept rules together. It just made it more explicit that > rules went the same place. PF uses some clever skip ahead to gain the > speed that proper use of groups give in IPF, and tests have shown that > pf is faster than IPF in particular when rulesets grow large. > > but you need to be careful writing rules: > > IPF sample: > > block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any head 10 > pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 group 10 > > PF sample: > > block in from 10.0.0.0/24 to any > pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 > block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any > > The thing is that in the first line of the IPF sample, a default action > is made for that group. packets matching the head rule but no rules in > the group will take that action. > > In PF you'll have to include that extra rule in the end to get the same > behavior. > > So, in short, ipf is really simple and comparatively easy to work with, > the lack of macros means you generally have to write more but this also > makes it more explicit what happens as packets traverse the ruleset. > > pf has some really nice features in particular in more complex setups. > The use of macros means that you can create compact rulesets that can > easily be adopted to other systems or setups. > > Use what you feel most comfortable with. > > Cheers, Erik > Awesome information, and links. Thank you Everyone. Gable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 16:53:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80D716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FDC043D55 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 78049 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 16:53:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gUepHsr49e268k12au7eDIjK5WG/5Sz7BTczJdwqLEjTAand/nmUboksp6R1nTHqGoWA6Y2JQnTECBVIePIyRuukoM9dTV6RCIpejqa7jgrvvnG8eNlr0Et2YPuJTz8uhEdnOFs8ys/9EisPfaq4L88GJfOJbRijPr2NQSXCr4s= ; Message-ID: <20060118165339.78047.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:39 PST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Dick Davies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:53:41 -0000 > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > make drivers for their OS, > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with > their market share. Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? For pete's sake, how can so many people be so patently clueless and still be able to find food and shelter? Do you really have no idea how things work? Are you really so brainwashed by the geeky liberals that you have lost your ability to think? MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. Vendors write drivers for windows because the market is substantial and because if they don't write drivers no-one who runs windows will buy their cards. Like DUH!. In fact, you have to PAY MS to get the devkit to build drivers for windows. Vendors don't write drivers for freebsd because: 1) the market is too small 2) Some don't want to release source, as they'll lose more to taiwanese cloners than they will make selling to 'nix users. 3) X sucks, so why risk having people badmouth your cards? If vendors are going to support a *nix, they'll support linux. The market is much larger. dt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:03:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BF316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5148D43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1266479wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:03:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dqbxcmrVzHLjta926nmiLLXbNqmW/jlAEw2BDOpxypcKj1LcS/MqmPCXyg+5IE9DSThLnSIzZFBTndAsHSTzavtU7JS+Wut8gd3b2n0jZEMrwT9trveRFkWpkKjkdYgfhgCTiUMWt0zpY/Wyaq+ua/0dSwX2Mt+u3FxLZAcnWz0= Received: by 10.70.128.8 with SMTP id a8mr10863959wxd; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:03:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601180903y206648edq@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:49 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: danial_thom@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060118165339.78047.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> <20060118165339.78047.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:51 -0000 On 18/01/06, Danial Thom wrote: > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > > make drivers for their OS, > > > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with > > their market share. > Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? > MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. Did you read what I just typed Daniel? Because you're coming across as a bit of an ignorant twat. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:05:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB3216A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:05:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43E543D7C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:05:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AF75F20; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79148-10; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6445D67; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:05:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CE756D.6030400@mac.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:05:49 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Barnett References: <38B0D3AA-E02D-4B95-BF26-8ED49F371C00@measuremap.com> In-Reply-To: <38B0D3AA-E02D-4B95-BF26-8ED49F371C00@measuremap.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel memory tunables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:05:55 -0000 Michael Barnett wrote: > I am trying to figure out which system tunables determine memory > resource usage by the amount of available physical memory in the box so > i can hard code sane values on a system with a lot of memory. If the machine is properly configured, getrlimit(RLIMIT_DATA, ...) is a reasonable starting place. The amount of memory available to an individual process may well be less than the total amount of RAM installed, especially on 32-bit machines using PAE to have more than 4GB of RAM. Otherwise, consider using the sysctl interface to look at hw.usermem... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:15:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F47616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:15:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gandalf@messias.qhigh.com) Received: from messias.qhigh.com (53d82769.adsl.enternet.hu [83.216.39.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96CD43D6A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:15:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gandalf@messias.qhigh.com) Received: from [172.16.0.26] (earth.msnet [172.16.0.26]) by messias.qhigh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54CC5C1F; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:21:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE77CB.2020100@messias.qhigh.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:15:55 +0100 From: User Gandalf User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kilian Hagemann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> <200601181824.27154.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <200601181824.27154.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Share desktop with XOrg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:15:01 -0000 Kilian Hagemann wrote: >On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:08, User Gandalf pondered: > > >>Is it possible to share a desktop under the XOrg server? Is there a port >>for this? I'm aware of the -display option of X based programs. What I >>need is not a remote desktop connection. I would like to share my >>desktop to another user so he can see what I see. >> >> > >Yes, the stock Xorg server doesn't though. You could use VNC, but in my >experience that just opens up another X display where you login separately >using kdm/gdm/xdm or whatever. > >I suggest you use KDE's desktop sharing (krfb, in the menu under "System", >part of the "kdenetwork" package, tested on 3.4.1). Does what you want. > > I hoped there is a more native solution. I prefer gtk over kde but what can I do? Thanks, Les From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:17:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D010F16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:17:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5533B43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:17:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1268419wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:17:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m1sT/FyMvNMNZJHES3MTZpDRe/wSzPoeaSYVI0eKWUpfg/PRvuASQEP1xPoqI63nkhu6+dp6zT1UumJbGDXlS0CIDh6PlYxvXM+sRHSI3hkvqMnzvGBIyxiY0GFvA+qZsSDyeSLmqJTR7t8cJyazlPMZbAcdmYpscAoV9HAYASo= Received: by 10.70.125.6 with SMTP id x6mr3578819wxc; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:17:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:17:27 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: Philip Hallstrom In-Reply-To: <20060117133047.B7000@wolf.pjkh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> <20060117200231.GJ14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <20060117151256.201626c9@grokwell.org> <20060117133047.B7000@wolf.pjkh.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:17:28 -0000 On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I > > get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can > > disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add > > a mouse or keyboard at that point.) > > /usr/ports/sysutils/screen > > Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical > terminal between several processes (typically interactive shells). Each > virtual terminal provides the functions of a DEC VT100 terminal and, in > addition, several control functions from the ANSI X3.64 (ISO 6429) and IS= O > 2022 standards (e.g. insert/delete line and support for multiple characte= r > sets). There is a scrollback history buffer for each virtual terminal and > a copy-and-paste mechanism that allows moving text regions between > windows. nohup foobar > ~/foobar.log& tail -f ~/foobar.log From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:33:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E112616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: from web53314.mail.yahoo.com (web53314.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E16D43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97502 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 17:33:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kG1Sk+vufBY4Wx5gLzs9omuykmYqbAMbxhHyXDaaUUO4f6+7+RMmHtLMwv9rPuV2pV7Y3lgalApV831fLAfj/u/59Efx7j1azjDiviZAkE3jmQMihKxE/iRmlXxZ7yeDl0Py7Oppc7cCvBBGXH6yAggh0dO1RZVf4kXZ806pFQA= ; Message-ID: <20060118173348.97500.qmail@web53314.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.49.254.13] by web53314.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:33:48 PST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:33:48 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: freebsd 6.0 rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:33:50 -0000 Hi all I have 2 questons about rc.conf 1/ I want to stop sendmail running in the box. in the man page in rc.sendmail. it said to put the following in rc.conf. "to completely prevent any snedmail(8) daemons from starting. but my sendmail is still running in the box! sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" 2/ When I put quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box is in boot process and seems to not in logon prompt. but I remove quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box is in the logon prompt Why? Thank you for your help defaultrouter="NO" quagga_enable="YES" quagga_daemons="zebra bgpd" quagga_flags="start" router_enable="NO" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:39:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72DD16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (rly-ip08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6581143D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com [195.93.24.101]) by rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0QKbSoB028561; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:37:52 -0500 Received: from koukou (ACC8C8CA.ipt.aol.com [172.200.200.202]) by smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0IHcx43027939; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:39:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200601181739.k0IHcx43027939@smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com> From: "Spiros Papadopoulos" To: "'Matias'" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:35:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 thread-index: AcYcSBCyhVzuAjOWQpOB2bRHuWjnqAACGgiA X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:39:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matias > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:55 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > > > What is the essential difference > > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > > Where can I find any list of differences? > > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? You seem to have never used FreeBSD before. The answer to this question is huge. Your best friend is the internet (i.e. google.com) as people already mentioned. For example imagine that people may understand "technical differences"!!! Of course even if at the beginning looks like a good post to "snob", between thousands of people this subject might have very good results. First: Whether Linux or FreeBSD is better, is totally subjective. I can install FreeBSD and start editing and building a custom kernel in 30 mins. When I sit on a Slackware (pcs in uni), I can use it of course, but I found difficult to build a custom kernel in it and to be honest before I search too much I went back to my FreeBSD. Some commands are slightly different! NO! I refuse....As long as it is available to me, I am sorry I want my FreeBSD mate! In the other hand I find knoppix the ultimate tool. The most impressing *nix like I have ever seen! I cannot go on holidays without my knoppix cd lately! That's because -->I<-- like it! Second: FreeBSD is everywhere...In computing... Remember this while reading, studying, googling for computers in the future! Now that I said googling what about http://www.google.com/bsd After typing your question to google as other people recommended, I recommend you type it to the above link too :) Third: UNIX was before Linux. ----------- I would like to ask two different questions on top of yours to complicate or maybe make things more interesting. Why there are many(!) Linux distos out there: http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html but only one freebsd? What is stopping people from making their own UNIX distributions, similar to FreeBSD? What are the differences between FreeBSD and SCO UNIXR? > > Greetings > > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Give a look at gentoo .... it's inspired by FreeBSD, and is linux as > well.... the portage system works great... and as a personal opinion: Use > gentoo for Home / Desktop / Office use.... use FreeBSD For web/ftp/file/ > etc.. Servers..... > Just want to say that I believe freebsd can be used for a very large list of things. Every time I perform something new using freebsd I realize that are other, the Operating Systems that cannot do some things...or they are just doing them really simply! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:41:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBF116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:41:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E8343D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1684840nzo for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:41:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YXjoxxg+AXQk4+TgO7Ml6lF+Snlho+Us+PiT6O0vldcJ/9+E1nNeNCz2Udvbe9UVhQ50IcL0PZACMgcjX0A2vPKTwDtz9d0pJGipBnlZIO7Bto85gAB2yZnzvHChodjqn88zgV63rfTHv6hWC0n+361gxNTOV9lDS5w+/wpOK8s= Received: by 10.65.15.15 with SMTP id s15mr4959306qbi; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.72.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:41:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4dd4cddf0601180941uf82a71aw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:41:22 +0000 From: Martin Tournoy To: Spiros Papadopoulos In-Reply-To: <200601181739.k0IHcx43027939@smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200601181739.k0IHcx43027939@smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com> Cc: Matias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:41:23 -0000 Dick Davies =3D> Sorry for sending you this mail twice, accidently pressed enter...(shoudn't eat and write e-mails at the same time...) > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. There's a very big dump of unmaintained software, whenever I want to play an old "classic" game like c&c, x-com or even system shock 2(which is from '99) I have serious problems, and have to resort to emulation software (which is quite different from compat4x for example, which is compatibility and not emulation) I've never had a problem with old software on FreeBSD, there are probably many but much less. > Have you ever brought 4.x up to 6.x? It doesn't sound like it. Nope, but I've been reading this mailing list long enough to know it's a real pain, but I'm quite sure it is possible. Note that I used "much easy er" and not "easy" > There are tools to solve this for windows, and there has been > for a long time. Yet another third-party hack? > Try updating 200 FreeBSD boxes, then try the same with a decent > imaging system for windows. Shell script...? > > Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user friend= ly GUI. > Then it isn't for the masses. Deal with it. This really wasn't my point, what I tried to say was that UNIX isn't the "big user-unfriendly beast" some people like you to believe, and that it can serve as user-friendly desktop just as well as Windows can (MacOS is a good example of this) > It's also very outdated and has been reinvented several times. > RBAC, SeLinux and MAC would indicate it's not flexible enough for > most people. Not flexible enough for some people that is, not most, every system has it's ups and downs, and the standard permissions work for just about all desktop PCs and most "hobby-servers" > That's not in itself a good thing. As I understand it, the registry is a = > central place for storing configuration details. More or less, however, it sucks, open regedit and browse through it and you'll know what I mean, names are cryptic and non-descriptive, the hierarchy doesn't make sense, and worst, it's undocumented.. Which means that hacking the registry is something similair to hacking sendmail.cf Editing ten diffrent files to change one thing is easyer, quicker and leads to less heacache then changing something in the registry... > Have a look at things like Solaris SMF and you realise that rcNG isn't > = as good as it could be either. Never used Solaris so I can't say anything about their SMF, a (very) quick glance reminded me of linux... Anyway, rc isn't perfect, but it works for me, it atleast makes sense... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:58:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556C216A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enfurno@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B432D43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enfurno@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so391wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:58:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=fwBC8WvMGFftayX0eZ25E/xyOGqkoi2VOXvVcUF/j1QcL9HJIxZCp/Lj3FSl+ZmWjXstHRUvgMBC319PC5+xHU2f7zGTr50EKrj8B+BftrmBUudWisSVdPdas4IrKMLHfIDm1a0CPEEtJ0h+ht075Xe+Zb4W2TPz8APA3HFup3s= Received: by 10.70.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr11399196wxj; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.48.11 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94898bac0601180957k6f832c0xdac97a4b76c451c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:58 -0800 From: Eric Smith To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Multiple install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:58:02 -0000 Do you know of a drive clone that will work well with distributing freebsd installations to multiple servers via network. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 18:01:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC9116A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:01:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A205443D5E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0II0TpD060520; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:00:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0II0PPA060517; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:00:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:00:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Ken Stevenson In-Reply-To: <20060118124111.GB69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> Message-ID: <20060118185938.P60440@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20060118124111.GB69630@abbott.allenmyland.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:01:09 -0000 >> _______________________________________________ > > > Huh? I do. I'm sure a lot of people do. > strange that nobody answerem by questions. it's quite impossible that only i have such problems. i really must be sure my dumps are restorable! :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 18:05:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A2516A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A037943D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:05:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676A05FC5; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51677-02; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA06A5C50; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CE837F.2000007@mac.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:51 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:05:58 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > nobody here do backups of their systems? strange?! I backup and restore using those self-named tools on a variety of DLT and 4mm DAT tape drives. 4mm DDS DAT kinda sucks, and they are super-sensitive to being cleaned a lot. Did you have a more specific question...? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 18:10:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDB16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968A343D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so2477wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E3D7h3EaGFQ1llTEVAlyKetbTwL7hA2nT1+ldTpvMrqht1XHNxXusYqwWZMT6g8hIC8f9sdKk+kZhahLuj7LfrtephxHeO3/ZHLB3Bbxrr/xcImJ7JLT9VK3UVr1kDHtuKKoMbL52O8Cr0Hp0byxlAiVkDbLOIn8kbYBJegzsA8= Received: by 10.70.72.11 with SMTP id u11mr10952849wxa; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:10:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601181010r1814041ci@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:10:10 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: Martin Tournoy In-Reply-To: <4dd4cddf0601180938u69c6d139o@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060118001911.0067816A436@hub.freebsd.org> <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> <4dd4cddf0601180447i25908100s@mail.gmail.com> <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> <4dd4cddf0601180938u69c6d139o@mail.gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:10:12 -0000 On 18/01/06, Martin Tournoy wrote: > > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. > > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. > There's a very big dump of unmaintained software, whenever I want to > play an old "classic" game like c&c, x-com or even system shock > 2(which is from '99) I have serious problems, and have to resort to > emulation software (which is quite different from compat4x for > example, which is compatibility and not emulation) I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying rebuilding world so top still works with a new kernel might not be that much of a leap forward. [Incidentally, breaking backwards compatibilty was a conscious decision by = MS, according to: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html (briefly, they'd always tried hard to support older apps, which is where a lot of windows 'bloat' comes from. They dropped that fairly recently, and people (developers) are very unhappy about it) > > Have you ever brought 4.x up to 6.x? It doesn't sound like it. > Note that I used "much easy er" and not "easy" :) All I'm saying is these are universal problems. > > Try updating 200 FreeBSD boxes, then try the same with a decent > > imaging system for windows. > > Shell script...? as in: 'a simple matter of programming'....? :) My point is you need to write it, whereas you can get a supported solution for MS off the shelf. That sort of thing matters to an IT manager/director,= and they decide the budgets. > > > Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user frie= ndly GUI. > > > Then it isn't for the masses. Deal with it. > > This really wasn't my point, what I tried to say was that UNIX isn't > the "big user-unfriendly beast" some people like you to believe, and > that it can serve as user-friendly desktop just as well as Windows can > (MacOS is a good example of this) True, but OSX doesn't expose the CLI to the same extent BSD does. I wonder how many OSX users have subsequently started using BSD. > > RBAC, SeLinux and MAC would indicate it's not flexible enough for > > most people. > Not flexible enough for some people that is, not most, every system > has it's ups and downs, and the standard permissions work for just > about all desktop PCs and most "hobby-servers" But there is a need for that sort of granularity in many cases. (I for one dislike running webservers as root just so they can open port 80, for instance). It could be (and is) done better elsewhere= , but 'good enough' stops it becoming widespread. > Never used Solaris so I can't say anything about their SMF, a (very) > quick glance reminded me of linux... check docs.sun.com when you have a spare few hours, you'll be surprised. > Anyway, rc isn't perfect, but it works for me, it atleast makes sense... Yeah, I much prefer it to the sysvinit nonsense . -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 18:15:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5A716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:15:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1BC43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:15:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0E366EB9 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:15:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 6C76C54507; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:15:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:15:53 +0100 Message-ID: <20060118191553.ytco7dtrfsoow0k4@imp4.free.fr> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:15:53 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Subject: again canon printer trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:15:51 -0000 Ok, two short questions. -Is someone able to translate this for me (seems to be Czech)? http://www.abclinuxu.cz/hardware/show/65412;jsessionid=10vmgmw8u8l16 -May my problem be due to acpi in any way? I don't know acpi either. But may try something like debug.acpi.disabled="isa" in /boot/device.hints. Good or bad idea ? -- Regards, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:11:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F116A422 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mx2.bol-online.com (bplcorp12.bol-online.com [202.84.40.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C080043D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from dell.bol-online.com (tcr2ep145.dhaka.net [202.84.36.145]) by mx2.bol-online.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF65CBB7E for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:11:19 +0600 (BDT) Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.0.20060119012427.03d6deb0@bol-online.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:25:55 +0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Aftab Jahan Subedar In-Reply-To: <20060117215633.GL14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> References: <6.2.5.6.0.20060118035012.03470970@bol-online.com> <20060117215633.GL14213@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BOL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BOL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BOL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam X-MailScanner-From: jahan@bol-online.com Subject: Re: KDE3 install problem n solution (BUG ????) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:11:52 -0000 At 03:56 AM 1/18/2006, Mike Hernandez wrote: >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:04:10AM +0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: > > Installing & compiling KDE3 in 4.7 had problem in line 275 of > > > /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.4.3/kcontrol/usbview/usbdevices.cpp > > > >Not ready for 3.5 yet are you? > >Mike Ready but ports are not updated yet. !!! Soon for sure. Thanks Mike -Jahan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:20:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4138916A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:20:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F101A43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:20:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DDC1A3C1B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E7DAC54B90; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:20:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:20:47 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ted Wisniewski Message-ID: <20060118192047.GA47811@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> <09FE5498-82E3-495C-9593-8F1CFF3A3BD6@measuremap.com> <200601180803.44265.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601180803.44265.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael Barnett Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:20:49 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 08:03:44AM -0500, Ted Wisniewski wrote: > You weren't by chance also using NFS? I was, all my other 5.x systems d= id=20 > not use NFS and are stable. I saw this same behavior and wound up going = back=20 > to 4.11 to keep the system stable. Hmm, I didn't notice the 5.4 somehow. Try using 6.0 instead - many important bugs fixed, not to mention the performance improvements. Kris P.S. Don't top-post --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzpUOWry0BWjoQKURAjECAKDpEt9rWJw9Rt71qH9RPdbadLTEOQCgtrUM C7hMUcp9GqaSMptYYHNltsw= =UA87 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:30:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064CB16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD6743D58 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:30:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbarnett@measuremap.com) Received: from [172.16.1.3] (cpe-70-112-96-145.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.96.145]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0IJUZH9022440; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:30:35 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <200601180803.44265.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> References: <47A794C0-FE22-46FC-9D81-BCF3359CBD61@measuremap.com> <09FE5498-82E3-495C-9593-8F1CFF3A3BD6@measuremap.com> <200601180803.44265.ted@wiz.plymouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Barnett Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:30:32 -0600 To: Ted Wisniewski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE causing system crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:30:40 -0000 Nopers. No nfs... nothing at all fancy with the drives except the raid. -m On Jan 18, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Ted Wisniewski wrote: > You weren't by chance also using NFS? I was, all my other 5.x > systems did > not use NFS and are stable. I saw this same behavior and wound up > going back > to 4.11 to keep the system stable. > > Ted > > On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03:17 pm, Michael Barnett wrote: >> To ammend this slightly.. When running the PAE kernel, they will >> stay online indefinitely under little to no load. It is only when i >> want them to actually work will they freak out and reboot. >> >> -m >> >> On Jan 17, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Michael Barnett wrote: >>> I have 3 dell machines with 2x xeon procs, 8G of ram, and a half >>> terabyte raid 5. I attempted to run the AMD64 distribution on >>> these boxes which was fine for everything except mysql, (which is >>> all these boxes are going to do) so I reinstalled 5.4 i386. >>> >>> uname -a looks like (hostname obscured): >>> >>> FreeBSD myhost.mydomain.com 5.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p9 >>> #2: Mon Jan 16 23:27:12 PST 2006 root@myhost.mydomain.com:/usr/ >>> obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-PAE i386 >>> >>> >>> My problem is, if i don't enable PAE in the kernel, i can only >>> address half the ram in the boxes, but... the machines are stable. >>> >>> If i do enable PAE, i can address all the memory, but they randomly >>> reboot without dumping any errors or logging. >>> >>> To enable PAE, i am building and booting off the following kernel >>> config: >>> >>> >>> include PAE >>> >>> ident SMP-PAE >>> >>> options SMP >>> options KVA_PAGES=512 >>> >>> >>> I added the KVA_PAGES options hoping to stabilize the machine >>> (doesn't seem to have made any difference.) The only other tuning >>> i am doing at the moment is in loader.conf: >>> >>> >>> kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" # Set the max data size >>> >>> >>> When i boot without PAE I use the generic SMP kernel, and the >>> machine is stable. >>> >>> I know that there are a number of other kernel tunables i could be >>> tweaking, but I am not really sure where to start as the machine >>> dies silently. I was hoping that someone who has run a stable PAE >>> kernel with 8G of ram + could point me in the right direction. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Michael >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: > ted@mail.plymouth.edu | > | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/ > ~ted/ | > | Information Technology Services | > | Plymouth State University Phone: (603) > 535-2661 | > | Plymouth NH, 03264 Fax: (603) > 535-2263 | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:51:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B159016A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:51:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from w@expro.pl) Received: from mailin1.expro.pl (mailin1.expro.pl [193.25.166.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5435043D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from w@expro.pl) Received: from miranda-1.dmz.exprozone ([10.0.16.20] helo=miranda.expro.pl) (envelope-sender ) by mailin1.expro.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EzJLJ-0001tv-5Q for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:51:41 +0100 Received: by miranda.expro.pl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69E1D54929; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:51:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:51:41 +0100 From: Jan Srzednicki To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118195141.GA38794@miranda.expro.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: accounting - question on "core usage" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:51:43 -0000 Hello, In the sa(8) manpage, I can find that it prints out somewhat mysterious values: k CPU-time averaged core usage, in 1k units k*sec CPU storage integral, in 1k-core seconds How are these values calculated and what do they really tell me? I know they're somehow related to the memory usage. -- Jan Srzednicki w@expro.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:55:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B1E16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:55:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A643D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so17466wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:55:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LAKBVklzo2l9n7MUp7zYMiIOz+M0EimJf2h/2/0o9l47nfWBXKyGahxYg9vYF3g3DAMqy8a2R3HGKSxwbo47ZWHV9YSL5wqFeZHCNIO6fRubIA5TxMhqmZ5PJ/rb7j9S7nri8dV+pgTxXKqWIFQHdUCV334LeDQI70SHmLbt1Ms= Received: by 10.70.20.12 with SMTP id 12mr4587270wxt; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:55:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:55:41 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: progerstis In-Reply-To: <2450263.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6334c6e20511220626s7d2b7821v58c477f8655a6d73@mail.gmail.com> <6334c6e20511220726r5a783117gf656252aaa012d4c@mail.gmail.com> <2450263.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: create/symlink failed, no inodes free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:55:42 -0000 On 1/18/06, progerstis (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: > > > The same error appeared frequently when I tried to install FreeBSD on an > 8.5GB partition. Apparently it was because the root partition was running > out of space. So instead of using the auto-option to divide up and create > the different (logical?) partitions I created one root partition that is > 8000MB and a swap partition that is ~500MB. I've discovered that in having a small root partition (<300M) on can be well served by setting newfs -i to some uncommonly low value, such as 2048 or 1024. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 20:11:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D8216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:11:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638C843D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:11:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j3so52151ugf for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:11:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZZnaY2GFtP9DnzRMGkvmlqnW1ZXAg8HBgFkOhTB8nOtev/v4Bkqf1mTToYJXmd3FEM6L+LUmX6FkvgAp73lAx3muY+hVp/HUKnc7hV3KRyAEJ9lQ0kh51zReJF3DAx4l1U8DUsHsBxNQX0mycUkWMVMDO/B47Y9rCkpz2Odtgsk= Received: by 10.66.240.17 with SMTP id n17mr4120258ugh; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.248.12 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:03:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:03:51 -0500 From: David Stanford To: ann kok In-Reply-To: <20060118173348.97500.qmail@web53314.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060118173348.97500.qmail@web53314.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 6.0 rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:11:08 -0000 ann kok, Here are some instructions on uninstalling Sendmail. -David On 1/18/06, ann kok wrote: > > Hi all > > I have 2 questons about rc.conf > > 1/ I want to stop sendmail running in the box. in the > man page in rc.sendmail. it said to put the following > in rc.conf. "to completely prevent any snedmail(8) > daemons from starting. but my sendmail is still > running in the box! > > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" > > 2/ When I put quagga_flags=3D"start" in rc.conf, the box > is in boot process and seems to not in logon prompt. > > but I remove quagga_flags=3D"start" in rc.conf, the box > is in the logon prompt > > Why? > > Thank you for your help > > defaultrouter=3D"NO" > quagga_enable=3D"YES" > quagga_daemons=3D"zebra bgpd" > quagga_flags=3D"start" > router_enable=3D"NO" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 20:13:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BC716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:13:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B8A43D4C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:13:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k0IKDhiU016315; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id k0IKDhkC016314; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200601182013.k0IKDhkC016314@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:13:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20060118185938.P60440@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ken Stevenson Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:13:47 -0000 > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Huh? I do. I'm sure a lot of people do. > > > strange that nobody answerem by questions. it's quite impossible that > only i have such problems. What question? No real question was asked. What do you want to know? Lots of people use dump/restore, some occasionaly, some regularly. ////jerry > > > i really must be sure my dumps are restorable! :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 20:53:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72FE16A420 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (mx2.go2.pl [193.17.41.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F4943D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from [84.40.169.29] (xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl [84.40.169.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30917480A1 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:53:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:53:03 +0100 From: cblasius User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Why I haven't device /dev/cd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:53:06 -0000 Hello ! I want to use DVD+RW. I looked in handbook and I saw there: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html >>16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW >> >>Unlike CD-RW, a virgin DVD+RW needs to be formatted before first use. >>The growisofs(1) program will take care of it automatically whenever >>appropriate, which is the recommended way. However you can use the >>dvd+rw-format command to format the DVD+RW: >> >># dvd+rw-format /dev/cd0 It is a mistake? In my folder /dev/ I have only the following devices for DVD: /dev/acd0 and this (I do not remember exactly it name) /dev/acd0t01 Where is /dev/cd0? I want to format my DVD, but when I use: # dvd+rw-format /dev/acd0 then I obtain error about something inappropriate ioctl. Please for help. I'm beginner in FreeBSD. I try format DVD+RW and then want to use for packet writing. Is it possible? Best regards, cblasius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 20:58:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761D216A422 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:58:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0155F43D5F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:58:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28DD2F942 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:20 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: NIhVGvnNHD4uAAkbpVmMnSb3WmmjXwVDwCb/AWXNpQ8T 1137617898 Received: from localhost (mdsnwikwbas08-pool4-a199.mdsnwikw.tds.net [69.129.195.199]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14A95714A4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:58:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:58:14 -0600 From: Will Maier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118205814.GI15667@merkur.atekomi.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601181556.33030.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <20060118142537.GE15667@merkur.atekomi.net> <200601181738.50725.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601181738.50725.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: I have been hacked (WAS: Have I been hacked or is nmap wrong?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:58:30 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 05:38:50PM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Will Maier pondered: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 03:56:32PM +0200, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > > > I have never even heard of "frox" before, but after some > > > googling it turns out that it's a GPL'ed transparent ftp > > > proxy... > > > > Where's it pointing? > > No idea, I only went as far as trying to login anonymously using a > console based ftp client. How could I find out? Connect to it and watch the packets in tcpdump(8) or similar. this may not give you the full answer, but it'll help. What banners do the FTP servers have? Is there a domain listed? Who owns that domain? > > What do you see when you connect to the SMTP ports? Are they > > really mail servers, or just rogue services running on 25? > > They are really mail servers, at least smtp for outgoing mails > (don't know about incoming though). I used kmail to configure them > as standard outgoing smtp mail servers and successfully sent > myself two emails, one via each server. Surely a default, out of > the box, unconfigured and sendmail_enable="None" sendmail process > wouldn't allow for something like that, never mind the fact that > the firewall is supposed to block ANY access from the outside > (output of ipfw show is attached) So these are running, functioning sendmail servers that /you/ didn't configure (on purpose)? What do you see when you 'talk' to them via nc(1)? If you're firewall was dropping incoming packets destined to those ports, you wouldn't have been able to send a mail through them (or connect on 25 with nc(1))... > Well, I didn't worry about samba because it's firewalled to the > outside(unless some Windows virus on one of the LAN machines > exploited a samba hole, is that likely?). I don't know Samba that well, but it's possible it could be exploited (check the web for recent advisories pertaining to it). How much do you trust the users on the 'green' side? Could one of their boxes have been compromised and then used as a platform to attack your border servers? This sort of (nightmare) scenario is why people have been whining about 'defense in depth' for the last few years; it turns out that your crunchy, impermeable outside actually can be as squishy as your inside. > There is only one single normal user account with an uncommon name > and an impossible password(16 characters randomly generated from > ASCII charset). ChallengeResponseAuthentication is commented out > in sshd which I guess means it uses the standard PAM > authentication. It also allows password/interactive authentication > in addition to public key, I always use the former. I do admit > that I have set "PermitRootLogin yes" but my root password is 9 > characters with numbers and non-alphanumeric characters, so hard > to brute-force. Having a kickass, long username with an 'impossible' 16 char password and an open root account with a password 9 chars long is like putting a heavy steel door on a cardboard box. Allowing PermitRootLogin is a mistake in almost every scenario; disable it in the next generation of your servers (if possible). It's a 'weakest link' sort of situation, I guess. > In any case, it's important to note that the only access from the > outside via ssh/rsync is firewalled in such a way that it only > allows access from a single IP address which my institution > assigns me statically via DHCP (see attachment). That's good. > They would have had to a) find out what this one and only trusted > IP address is b) spoof it successfully c) attack ssh brute force? Assuming the firewall works, they would certainly have to complete steps a, b and c; unless, that is, they compromised /your/ box, too. Unlikely, though, I suspect. > Well, I thought my setup was secure enough for a very basic > router/gateway/firewall for a couple of Windows machines using a > sucky internet connection which is not worth stealing. Unfortunately, the asset you should be protecting might not be your bandwidth or data or whatever it is you've been assuming. When you set up a firewall, you're protecting something -- in your case, what is it? Have you defined that for yourself? It's hard to do a good job defending something you haven't or can't define. While it probably sounds pedantic or silly, take a moment to ask yourself what it is you want to protect. If there are several things, rank them by priority. _Then_ go about designing a defense. Securing your stuff may not be a terribly high priority at all; if so, accept the fact that something bad will happen once in a while. Your security plan might just be "deal with it when the shit hits the fan." No problem. That can make sense. Having clarified that for yourself, though, makes things easier. > So I didn't go through the effort of using a file integrity > monitor, remote logging, traffic dumps or network monitors (jeez, > sysadmins lives are really difficult these days :-( ) Like I said above, those sorts of defenses might be overkill for you. That's fine -- there are benefits, though, to deploying them, and their cost might not seem so bad in context of your (evident) frustration at the break-in. I still sympathize, by the way: it's a tricky, awful world sometimes. > Thanks a ton for the help and advice, I'll see what I can do. Of course -- best of luck with damage control. > # output of ipfw show. I edited it to remove all count rules(merely used for traffic accounting), > # some unreach rules to prevent some LAN clients from accessing the internet altogether > # and substituted some ip blocks for privacy purposes. LAN_NET is the LAN subnet, > # MY_OUTSIDE_IP is the unique and only ip address that is allowed to login from the outside via ssh/rsync I don't use IPFW, so I can't really help here. You might want to repost your config to a more firewall-oriented list if you don't get enough response here; they'll certainly be able to help you. -- o--------------------------{ Will Maier }--------------------------o | jabber:..wcmaier@jabber.ccc.de | email:..........wcmaier@ml1.net | | \.........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | \..........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | *------------------[ BSD Unix: Live Free or Die ]------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:04:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8E16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F343D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 5607 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 21:04:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.173.142]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Jan 2006 21:04:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:04:33 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: cblasius Message-ID: <20060118220433.28c9fbc1@localhost> In-Reply-To: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> References: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_CDKlVmx/GNeZGTR.pHrs4v+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why I haven't device /dev/cd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:04:42 -0000 --Sig_CDKlVmx/GNeZGTR.pHrs4v+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cblasius wrote: > I want to use DVD+RW. I looked in handbook and I saw there: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.h= tml >=20 > >>16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW > >> > >>Unlike CD-RW, a virgin DVD+RW needs to be formatted before first > >>use. The growisofs(1) program will take care of it automatically > >>whenever appropriate, which is the recommended way. However you > >>can use the dvd+rw-format command to format the DVD+RW: > >> > >># dvd+rw-format /dev/cd0 >=20 > It is a mistake? > In my folder /dev/ I have only the following devices for DVD: > /dev/acd0 > and this (I do not remember exactly it name) > /dev/acd0t01 >=20 > Where is /dev/cd0? You probably didn't read chapter "16.7.2 Configuration" on the same page. If you're using 6.0 you can kldload atapicam.ko and the "missing" device should appear. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_CDKlVmx/GNeZGTR.pHrs4v+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzq1mjV8GA4rMKUQRAqDeAKDDkO0HIWqzA2k34NXWCqaoDtQQ0gCfWs0P LFISw2zJJPE4X5Yli94c62U= =Z9Q/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_CDKlVmx/GNeZGTR.pHrs4v+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:05:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B34616A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1269943D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17459 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2006 21:05:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RHXV6K2SIFZ7WbZJtWGnQbQPtwp+aOszBAD1pTSmV/Omvg2e0FfWT/C3ubLG8Ca0SGCYcIeZFrgUZBZcvsmNqQQqQcW58kbJwCcooSndLWh2rDAy6b2k5YnlQEt+m53sUMmti+xmE8YoSmBmZdVXRNWC+PsWe9g2lV5/S7NnZgY= ; Message-ID: <20060118210523.17457.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:23 PST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Dick Davies In-Reply-To: <3f1760601180903y206648edq@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:24 -0000 --- Dick Davies wrote: > On 18/01/06, Danial Thom > wrote: > > > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > > > make drivers for their OS, > > > > > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to > with > > > their market share. > > > Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or > something? > > > MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. > > Did you read what I just typed Daniel? > Because you're coming across as a bit of an > ignorant twat. Sorry, but I find it impossible that people don't know that vendors pay microsoft to write drivers. And you clearly weren't certain of your answer. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:05:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C94816A422 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B190F43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 44428 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 21:05:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tuO4zZOs+lKin9+byOf+9BF2C7U/b6479fQEfhhSTrvhCnf0gHU1skxm6Ql4szKNgySl34QP6GSq6VXp6Rin+YBDmeRXq/qE6BObK7Opa94q4x0jQhznrMB7jCGTlgNgOuZxv3MSvGMm6cp7ks/jfLjvesXdpbsSFUywx0H1Ue0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO chaucer.jeays.ca) (mj001@rogers.com@72.139.51.96 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 21:05:30 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: cblasius In-Reply-To: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> References: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:05:28 -0500 Message-Id: <1137618328.27669.4.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why I haven't device /dev/cd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:05:38 -0000 On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:53 +0100, cblasius wrote: > Hello ! > > I want to use DVD+RW. I looked in handbook and I saw there: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html > > >>16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW > >> > >>Unlike CD-RW, a virgin DVD+RW needs to be formatted before first use. > >>The growisofs(1) program will take care of it automatically whenever > >>appropriate, which is the recommended way. However you can use the > >>dvd+rw-format command to format the DVD+RW: > >> > >># dvd+rw-format /dev/cd0 > > It is a mistake? > In my folder /dev/ I have only the following devices for DVD: > /dev/acd0 > and this (I do not remember exactly it name) > /dev/acd0t01 > > Where is /dev/cd0? > > I want to format my DVD, but when I use: > # dvd+rw-format /dev/acd0 > then I obtain error about something inappropriate ioctl. > > Please for help. I'm beginner in FreeBSD. > I try format DVD+RW and then want to use for packet writing. > Is it possible? > > Best regards, > cblasius > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You need to add one line ("device atapicam") to the kernel config file and recompile the kernel to enable access to CD and DVD devices through /dev/cd0 See section 16.6.9 in the Handbook, and also section 8 for recompiling a kernel. Installing K3B will provide a NERO-like GUI interface for burning CDs, should you prefer to do it that way. Nowhere near as hard as it sounds! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:15:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48F716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim.greeningjackson@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ACE43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim.greeningjackson@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060118211519.PGTA15755.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:19 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.10] (really [213.106.189.79]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060118211519.WDNV10196.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[10.0.0.10]>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:19 +0000 From: Tim Greening-Jackson To: poczta@gbkonto.net In-Reply-To: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:15 +0000 Message-Id: <1137618915.28416.9.camel@tordella> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:21 -0000 On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? I have been following this thread (and similar ones over the past few weeks) and would like to offer my perspective on the "FreeBSD versus Linux" discussion. FWIW, this isn't a troll, so my apologies if it upsets some of the more precious people on this list (and having read the list for the past couple of months you are definitely out there). To explain some background, I used/administered/programmed under Unix throughout the 1980s and 1990s (SysVR3, BSD4.2, Ultrix...), and I have been using Linux (RedHat/Fedora) for the past couple of years. I have recently been using/evaluating FreeBSD. I have no particular axe to grind in favour of either system. It's reasonable to assume that the sorts of people asking a question like "what's the difference..." or "which is better..." aren't designing brand-new top-end data centres. They are a lot more likely to be contemplating a move from MS Windows or perhaps have dabbled with Linux and are curious. I would also suggest that a better question than "what's better" is "what is more appropriate". So, that preamble out of the way, my $0.02 is this. The distinction "Linux is a kernel; FreeBSD is an O/S" is - frankly - the sort of jesuitical sophistry that gets UseNet a bad name. The important things are: EASE OF USE AND INSTALLATION Linux is a much, much easier system to install and configure. No contest. Stick the disks in, it'll pretty much recognise any sound-card and video interface and will work out of the box without pissing about configuring X-windows or recompiling the kernel. I'm sure if you persevere for long enough with FreeBSD it's possible to get a quite usable desktop, with most of the applications that come bundled with a release of Linux. The FreeBSD installation process is like some sort of time-warp back to the 1980s. The argument that "most FreeBSD installations are server, so don't require mice etc." is a circular/self-fulfilling one. People - frankly - aren't going to be bothered messing around getting FreeBSD working. Get used to it. COMMUNITY The Linux community is much larger than the FreeBSD one. I have noted certain comments in this mailing list about wanting to stay "select", like some sort of digital Albania. To be honest, it's highly likely that your wish will come true. Fortunately there is this mailing list. And a couple of books, although when I went to my local bookstores (large ones, with big sections on computing) each had an entire shelf of Linux books, but none on FreeBSD. Thank goodness for Amazon, so I could get Lehey - which is excellent. The relative size of the communities means two things: there's much more support for Linux and also more applications are ready for Linux. Just like if I compare Linux with Windows. This list relies on a small number of dedicated experts who are generous enough with their time to answer a lot of questions over and over again. However, the FreeBSD community resembles some sort of religious cult at times. If FreeBSD wants to be anything other than a small footnote in the history of computing then it needs to engage a bit more with the 99.99% of the world who neither know - nor care - what it is; and who regard re-compiling a kernel as less of a God-given right and more of a tedious chore. HARDWARE SUPPORT I'd have to say that the hardware support in FreeBSD is probably better than that in Linux. Certainly it is on the hardware I've tested. But, for most people it's still a pain. SERVER APPLICATIONS All the tests I have done, and all I have read suggests that FreeBSD is superb for server applications. Once I have convinced myself of its support for SMB and a couple of other things, then it is highly likely I will be migrating my own servers over to FreeBSD: that's the best recommendation you can get. DESKTOP APPLICATIONS I love FreeBSD's pkg_add etc. and the ports collection is quite cool. But, pretty much all the stuff I want to port or add is there in most Linux distros. Lots of stuff also just doesn't work out of the box like it should. I have to force pkg_add to do strange stuff or there are other strange dependencies. If you're prepared to work on it, then you can get most applications running on FreeBSD, but it's still easier on Linux. SUMMARY IF you are prepared to work on it, FreeBSD looks like a great server operating system. If you're just an ordinary joe who wants a Unix-style OS then Linux is much easier to install, configure etc., has more desktop type applications which work first time etc. If you are building a data-centre which requires highly available servers then FreeBSD is better than Linux. But if you are in that sort of market you already know that, and are probably intending to wait a couple of months until Solaris goes open-source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:18:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B6316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6419443D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (pcp0011427575pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net[69.246.103.241]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <200601182118050140022pnle>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:18:05 +0000 From: Leonard Zettel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:21:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20060118162506.5ji2bvmtus888wo8@imp4.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <20060118162506.5ji2bvmtus888wo8@imp4.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601182121.18539.zettel@acm.org> Cc: ivan.roth@free.fr Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zettel@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:18:06 -0000 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 03:25 pm, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > >Wekk op n smehl da Kaffe, dood! > >Effn ah kaint reed et, how dew ah no et > >aint L kadeh plennen to rep muh guhrl? > >bee jes lahk duh bestads ta yoose Politch! > > -LenZ- > > C'est du Klingon ?? Not Klingon; Mercan, my native tongue. Maybe the spelling could use a little work though....:-) -LenZ- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:23:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85DD16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) Received: from smtp1.pochta.ru (smtp1.pochta.ru [81.211.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3910243D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) Received: from andrew (82-208-80-136.uac1.unlim.mts-nn.ru [82.208.80.136]) (author=dark2003@hotbox.ru authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.pochta.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP daemon=POCHTA.RU id k0ILNAkV093035 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:23:10 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) X-Author: dark2003@hotbox.ru from andrew (82-208-80-136.uac1.unlim.mts-nn.ru [82.208.80.136]) via Free Mail POCHTA.RU Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:13:52 +0300 From: =?Windows-1251?Q?=C0=ED=E4=F0=E5=E9?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1022334424.20060119001352@hotbox.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: vidcontrol does not give mode more 800x600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?Q?=C0=ED=E4=F0=E5=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:23:16 -0000 FreeBSD version: 6.0-RELEASE #0 video card: Nvidia Geforce4 MX 440 64M Kernel contains: device vga device agp options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE when start on vmware `vidcontrol -i mode` list mode before 1920x1440 when start on real hardware `vidcontrol -i mode` list mode only before 800x600 tried to add 'options VGA_WIDTH90' in kernel tried to install driver nvidia in internet on this subject nothing have not found even connected other monitor :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:28:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B386416A434 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:28:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A0B43D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:28:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so28781wxc for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F6cWTQgRsxPjwsoOc5cX6RXt0bdlGl2STMCH6Z+7vEyV0hn0GikTEgU5uDogb1C1fps40JSjnKeT5rM9p13DXAUPktQcI1HJ08inRj3me43UQl4vXsYTbWu5soMrQus28LejjgDFGPPIl+eOq+8g5I4sT28VJv72NEHwNw07XkI= Received: by 10.70.111.12 with SMTP id j12mr11210605wxc; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f1760601181328h1e8946aej@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:28:27 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: danial_thom@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060118210523.17457.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3f1760601180903y206648edq@mail.gmail.com> <20060118210523.17457.qmail@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:28:30 -0000 On 18/01/06, Danial Thom wrote: > --- Dick Davies wrote: > > On 18/01/06, Danial Thom > > wrote: (actually, no he didn't. your mail clients quoting is insane) (some guy:) > > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to make drivers for their = OS, (me:) > > > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with their market share. (danial:) > > > Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? > > > MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. (me:) > > Did you read what I just typed Daniel? > > Because you're coming across as a bit of an > > ignorant twat. (danial:) > Sorry, but I find it impossible that people don't > know that vendors pay microsoft to write drivers. Maybe he meant 'it pays to write drivers for MS' or something? I didn't feel the need to call him names over it. > And you clearly weren't certain of your answer. Yeah, I probably should have said something about his mother to help clarify things. sheesh :) -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 21:39:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A1916A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malachid@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EBA43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malachid@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so47097wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h8L8GmaOeJMs4qndX+tL4QlAsCMT2j7lto4lOgi5+rkV7e/sLNvxlwswSXyZQ49/+azt8qEINXlUz4l16gtjizSFd0nserrSKGWdqT48h4fgm+KzZOElcWXjVfYXSdgItb7tWWwB21OPV65CHWEsKaBWvMyvlg1E1/75NmcUXfw= Received: by 10.65.105.1 with SMTP id h1mr5365834qbm; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.95.5 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:39:55 -0800 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Malachi_de_=C6lfweald?= To: cblasius In-Reply-To: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43CEAAAF.5050900@o2.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why I haven't device /dev/cd0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:39:58 -0000 If you look at /etc/fstab it should show you which device is assigned to /cdrom in my case (DVD+RW-DL), it is /dev/acd0 Since you have that device, that is probably yours as well. I wouldn't be surprised if you could simply: mount /cdrom Malachi On 1/18/06, cblasius wrote: > > Hello ! > > I want to use DVD+RW. I looked in handbook and I saw there: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.h= tml > > >>16.7.5 Using a DVD+RW > >> > >>Unlike CD-RW, a virgin DVD+RW needs to be formatted before first use. > >>The growisofs(1) program will take care of it automatically whenever > >>appropriate, which is the recommended way. However you can use the > >>dvd+rw-format command to format the DVD+RW: > >> > >># dvd+rw-format /dev/cd0 > > It is a mistake? > In my folder /dev/ I have only the following devices for DVD: > /dev/acd0 > and this (I do not remember exactly it name) > /dev/acd0t01 > > Where is /dev/cd0? > > I want to format my DVD, but when I use: > # dvd+rw-format /dev/acd0 > then I obtain error about something inappropriate ioctl. > > Please for help. I'm beginner in FreeBSD. > I try format DVD+RW and then want to use for packet writing. > Is it possible? > > Best regards, > cblasius > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 22:40:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0069716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:40:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adematteo@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBBE43D48 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:40:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adematteo@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so64403wra for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cffVf+EZnzvtnA9EXwR0ckEcvPFF4bCv70ZknR1CU7Xhj28rQrGbi1uoJVG/AZkfbd8/TgM2zFwxXqcFJxYVXrBreDYpPl5p1SYe460yXMC/3LDFo72gSDOuDO2X+vn53rwpsM2/03GY2qm2f/ZdO4j5LWfmXma17GvMPAqZkg8= Received: by 10.65.141.6 with SMTP id t6mr11170qbn; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.139.10 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5e236bd10601181440o7f456313gf10d2f5ca30d159c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:40:00 -0500 From: Anthony Dematteo To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: 64 Bit Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:40:02 -0000 I have a couple questions about the AMD64 Project. 1. They page mentions that there is multiprocessor support. Does this include the dual core processors? Will the OS dispatch processes and threads to each core? 2. While the OS will use the 64 bit mode, will the applications still run in the compatibly mode? Will the applications still only use 32 bits. 3. Also, will the OS take advantage of being 64 bit and load itself into memory higher than the 32 bit addressable mark so that my 32 bit applications can use the lower part? 4. If I enable 64 bit compilation on GCC prior to installing a port, will the port then be 64 bit enabled? 5. If I stall an IDE and write my own applications on a 64 bit machine, can a 32 bit machine still run them? Thank you in advance for your response and time. Anthony DeMatteo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 22:51:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE7716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1CF43D49 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:51:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06993; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:51:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:52:35 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: ivan.roth@free.fr In-Reply-To: <20060118172146.kzky6ob74og8kowc@imp4.free.fr> Message-ID: <20060118173914.R10088@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20060118172146.kzky6ob74og8kowc@imp4.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loosing hair inside canon printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:51:34 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > This said, I have this in dmesg: [snip] > Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: > ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster3,BSCCe [snip] > simple question: how freebsd know about the name of my printer? I imagine FreeBSD queries the parallel port to see what's there ("Probing..."), and then the printer responds with the information displayed above. > # chkprintcap > chkprintcap: WARNING: found 1 entries when skimming /etc/printcap > chkprintcap: WARNING: but only found 0 queues to process! Could it be there is no spool directory? There should be something like :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd: in /etc/printcap; make sure that directory exists. Also, is lpd running? What output does ps -aux | grep lpd produce? The simplest way to run lpd is to put the following in /etc/rc.conf: lpd_enable="YES" # Run the line printer daemon. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 22:53:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1F216A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D51D43D53 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:52:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060118225256.IGIE8904.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:52:56 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "David Stanford" , "ann kok" Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:52:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: freebsd 6.0 rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:53:00 -0000 You are looking for this sendmail_enable="NONE" -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Stanford Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:04 PM To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 6.0 rc.conf ann kok, Here are some instructions on uninstalling Sendmail. -David On 1/18/06, ann kok wrote: > > Hi all > > I have 2 questons about rc.conf > > 1/ I want to stop sendmail running in the box. in the > man page in rc.sendmail. it said to put the following > in rc.conf. "to completely prevent any snedmail(8) > daemons from starting. but my sendmail is still > running in the box! > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > 2/ When I put quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box > is in boot process and seems to not in logon prompt. > > but I remove quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box > is in the logon prompt > > Why? > > Thank you for your help > > defaultrouter="NO" > quagga_enable="YES" > quagga_daemons="zebra bgpd" > quagga_flags="start" > router_enable="NO" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:30:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32CE16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:30:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADD843D46 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:30:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C449623; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:30:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id AB75E5444F; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:30:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:30:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20060119003037.dzn4sk79cww4ks0c@imp4.free.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:30:37 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: chris@monochrome.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loosing hair inside canon printer... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:30:56 -0000 Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > >> This said, I have this in dmesg: > > > [snip] > >> Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: >> ppbus0: PRINTER BJL,BJRaster3,BSCCe > > > [snip] > >> simple question: how freebsd know about the name of my printer? > > > I imagine FreeBSD queries the parallel port to see what's there > ("Probing..."), and then the printer responds with the information > displayed above. > >> # chkprintcap >> chkprintcap: WARNING: found 1 entries when skimming /etc/printcap >> chkprintcap: WARNING: but only found 0 queues to process! > > > Could it be there is no spool directory? There should be something like > :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd: > in /etc/printcap; make sure that directory exists. > > Also, is lpd running? What output does > ps -aux | grep lpd > produce? The simplest way to run lpd is to put the following in > /etc/rc.conf: > > lpd_enable="YES" # Run the line printer daemon. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > > Hi Chris, Thanks for replying. I got lpd_enable="YES", and lpd is running. I have the directory in /etc/printcap created, and permissions are ok on it. I even tried to change my printer's name (but I let lp as an alias I think it is mandatory for at least the first printer, and I changed the directory in the sd variable in /etc/printcap. no change. by the way, thanks for trying. Any other idea ? -- Regards, Ivan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:44:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5883716A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heesub.shin@samsung.com) Received: from mailout1.samsung.com (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09E343D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heesub.shin@samsung.com) Received: from ep_mmp1 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0ITB00JKYB9BZU@mailout1.samsung.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:43:59 +0900 (KST) Received: from gamja ([10.88.165.25]) by mmp1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0ITB00D4XB97LI@mmp1.samsung.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:43:59 +0900 (KST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:43:55 +0900 From: "Shin,Hee-Sub" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000001c61c89$0da481a0$19a5580a@swcenter.sec.samsung.co.kr> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AcYciQsVJaueLx+XQQqKSvpcQAhy2A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ks_c_5601-1987 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: About VFS locking strategy... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:44:01 -0000 Hi all. I'm speluking with source code of FreeBSD now, comparing VFS of FBSD and the linux's. I have a question related with concurrent accesses to the file system. It is seemed that VFS locks and unlocks each VNODEs before calling VNODE OPS provided by underlying FS. For example, it calls vn_lock(vp, ...) before jumps to VOP_READ() in vn_read(). WindowsCE kernel also has a component that is responsible for switching FS requests to appropriate file-system underlying and similar with VFS of many UNIX variants, but it's not perfectly same. In WindowsCE world, file system driver code can be called on re-entry and file system programmer should keep this in mind. The manager does not manage any synchronization problems that can be occurred when multiple threads access to the file system. It has only a few locks for protecting its own data structures. How does it manage synchronization problems in the VFS of FreeBSD? Please give me a detailed description about lock strategy the FreeBSD uses. Thanks in advance. Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:52:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6813316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC1043D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.5/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INqRJS057247 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:27 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (grobner3.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.120]) by riemann.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.10/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INqQER066827 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INqQjh026132 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:26 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0INqQUU026131 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:26 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.54 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:52:28 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 43CED4BB.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Subject: 6.0 for nfsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:52:30 -0000 Hi all I known that's a question come 1000 times when there are a new release... I must re-install my nfs server (actually run under FreeBSD 4.7 perfectly). I want to install FreeBSD 6.0-stable or FreeBSD 6.0-Release because on the www.freebsd.org this tag is «Production...». But is it a good idea ? Maybe FreeBSD 5.4-Release is enough ? What's adavantage can I've to install FreeBSD 6.0 instead 5.x ? (The only thing I want is the best performance AND best stability for...nfs). Lots of thanks. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Thu Jan 19 00:48:56 CET 2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:56:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9031316A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:56:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809DB43D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.5/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INuK2O057919 ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:20 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (grobner3.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.120]) by riemann.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.10/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INuIER067277 ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0INuIrj026404 ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:18 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0INuIdE026403; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:18 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Anthony Dematteo Message-ID: <20060118235618.GB25327@math.jussieu.fr> References: <5e236bd10601181440o7f456313gf10d2f5ca30d159c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5e236bd10601181440o7f456313gf10d2f5ca30d159c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.54 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:56:20 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 43CED5A4.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64 Bit Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:56:22 -0000 Le 18/01/2006 à 17:40:00-0500, Anthony Dematteo a écrit > I have a couple questions about the AMD64 Project. > > 1. They page mentions that there is multiprocessor support. Does > this include the dual core processors? Will the OS dispatch processes > and threads to each core? I only can answer this question : I've try to install FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 on dual opteron 275 (dual core). Everething work fine and we have 4 proc in the OS. Unfortunaly I do not have the chance to launch 4 big process to see the thread performance. For example I known on dual-core PowerPC Apple Macintosh time(4 x proccess)=time(1x process) [For the same process of course) Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Thu Jan 19 00:52:28 CET 2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 23:58:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5330D16A41F for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:58:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E066343D45 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivan.roth@free.fr) Received: from imp3-g19.free.fr (imp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513C817F74; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:58:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 5DE775459B; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:58:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from 83.214.71.138 ([83.214.71.138]) by imp4.free.fr (Horde) with HTTP for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:58:38 +0100 Message-ID: <20060119005838.que0d9m7y84cs4sg@imp4.free.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:58:38 +0100 From: ivan.roth@free.fr To: mime@traveller.cz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: again canon printer trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:58:35 -0000 Michal Mertl wrote: > ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > >>Ok, two short questions. >> >>-Is someone able to translate this for me (seems to be Czech)? >> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/hardware/show/65412;jsessionid=10vmgmw8u8l16 >> >>-May my problem be due to acpi in any way? I don't know acpi either. But may try >>something like debug.acpi.disabled="isa" in /boot/device.hints. Good or bad idea >>? > > > Hello. I am Czech. The page talks about using the printer under Linux. > Canon provides drivers for it. I don't know if they can be used because > I don't know the CUPS much. If the driver/filter program is (can be) > invoked manually, you could probably use it with FreeBSD native CUPS. If > not you can possibly run Linux CUPS and print to it even from FreeBSD > native applications. If the program directly communicates with the > printer you may be out of luck because you don't run Linux kernel and > the emulation may not be complete in these low-level areas. > > I didn't see your original post but printing issue can not be caused by > ACPI unless the interface for printing doesn't work at all. If for > example you use USB connection to the printer and something else USB > works, than ACPI can't be at fault. > > HTH > > Michal > > > Hi Michal, Definetely this ML should be read at least by czech people. Others are welcome for sure. Thanks a million for your translation and re-explanation. I am going to test in that way tomorrow. Of course, I still do not understand why I cannot print directly with > /dev/lpt0. About acpi, I told that because I have ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 in dmesg and all the examples I saw had isa instead of acpi. Any idea? Is it normal? Thanks again Michal. -- Regards, Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:09:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DA316A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:09:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A761743D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (patr530b-0012.otenet.gr [62.103.226.12]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id k0J094DK024278; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:09:05 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BCF511624; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:08:59 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:08:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Dematteo Message-ID: <20060119000858.GA3744@flame.pc> References: <5e236bd10601181440o7f456313gf10d2f5ca30d159c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5e236bd10601181440o7f456313gf10d2f5ca30d159c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 64 Bit Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:09:10 -0000 On 2006-01-18 17:40, Anthony Dematteo wrote: > I have a couple questions about the AMD64 Project. > > 1. They page mentions that there is multiprocessor support. Does > this include the dual core processors? Will the OS dispatch processes > and threads to each core? Not sure if I'm the right person to answer this in great technical detail, but I think the answer is 'yes' to both questions. > 2. While the OS will use the 64 bit mode, will the applications still > run in the compatibly mode? Not necessarily. By default the "base system" and any applications you compile yourself will be 64-bit too. The installed compiler and toolchain support building 32-bit binaries too, if you manually compile things yourself, but you don't have to if you don't feel like doing it. > Will the applications still only use 32 bits. No, 64-bit applications can use the full 64-bit address range. > 3. Also, will the OS take advantage of being 64 bit and load itself > into memory higher than the 32 bit addressable mark so that my 32 bit > applications can use the lower part? I'm not sure if I understand the question correctly, but why does the specific 'place' in the virtual 64-bit address space matter to an application? Some may argue that depending on such low level information is broken behavior and should be fixed in the application. > 4. If I enable 64 bit compilation on GCC prior to installing a port, > will the port then be 64 bit enabled? Ports do not support cross-compiling, as far as I know. If you build on a 64-bit machine, you get 64-bit binaries. If you build on a 32-bit machine, you get 32-bit binaries. > 5. If I stall an IDE and write my own applications on a 64 bit > machine, can a 32 bit machine still run them? No. The 64-bit binaries refer to registers, addresses and other parts of the 64-bit architecture that are not available in 32-bit hardware. The other way around works fine though. The 64-bit versions of FreeBSD include 32-bit libraries and runtime support too, so you can run 32-bit binaries seamlessly. In fact, this is exactly what enabled me to run a 32-bit binary of CMUCL, and experiment with LISP now that I've started learning about it: keramida@flame:/home/keramida$ uname -v FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Jan 16 17:28:28 EET 2006 \ build@flame.pc:/home/build/obj/home/build/src/sys/FLAME keramida@flame:/home/keramida$ which lisp /usr/local/bin/lisp keramida@flame:/home/keramida$ file `!!` file `which lisp` /usr/local/bin/lisp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, \ version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 6.0 (600100), \ dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped keramida@flame:/home/keramida$ lisp ; Loading #P"/home/keramida/init.lisp". CMU Common Lisp 19c Release (19C), running on flame.pc With core: /usr/local/lib/cmucl/lib/lisp.core Dumped on: Wed, 2005-11-30 01:04:28+02:00 on boomerang See for support information. Loaded subsystems: Python 1.1, target Intel x86 CLOS based on Gerd's PCL 2004/04/14 03:32:47 * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:14:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53B216A429 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:14:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60014.mail.yahoo.com (web60014.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58CAC43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:14:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 31043 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2006 00:14:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uEHMj29ylwedAIG7nYQonP9hLjCaOMG1wMYIPt2N0sXInDZzyWgcU+EDjozrrqn9MOxVgrlwZs8iD9Sab2UFhBqsCCo3/5lakTWTm6wMbBXDySVBkQOhUgiQJaKWWxNjjhpm6MLsM09/4DfyBiGcvoIaSHVEZWw233ghceF4oJM= ; Message-ID: <20060119001447.31041.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.252.85.69] by web60014.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:14:47 EST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:14:47 -0500 (EST) From: Peter To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <43CE6C7C.2040307@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:14:49 -0000 --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > Gable Barber wrote: > > On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: > >> > >> Switch over to pf. > >> > > Why do you suggest PF over IPF? > > > > Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in > the > > opinions. > > I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some version > that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed since > but I have found no reason to go back. > > There are two things I miss from IPF: > > a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful > filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a state > is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not > counted. That's not true. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:28:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AE716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E73E43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so81125nzf for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:28:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IC8ekm0U20MXtYpAXTFmDjbZif0Bg0haZW63Y/lJmQoiYRGYKaF4ClAsnJK9INUH7lampiCJ2COF6T5kvzXcfmDqXGXVWr4o3R998U3aS2aN0KP/O17wESea2rwcrfHzPaPUIUP7Up4bbgks46h5QKg0lgVtYSNCTOdZ4P92Ozw= Received: by 10.36.139.12 with SMTP id m12mr7380097nzd; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.13.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:28:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:28:14 -0500 From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mencoder/mplayer slower on freebsd 6.0-amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:28:16 -0000 Hi, I don't know if this is related, but I noticed that, when I run "mkxvcd" under amd64, it takes longer time to finish a movie conversion. I didn't do a side-by-side comparison between amd64 and i386 system, but usually a job will take less than an hour to finish on i386 would take more than that (usually like 2 hours) on the amd64. mkxvcd calls up mplayer/mencoder to do the conversion, while running the command, it prompted: [code] mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: Socket operation on non-socket [/code] is this the problem? TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:43:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2A416A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E016043D53 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:43:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4A01A3C1F; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB8E25154A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:43:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:43:21 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Shin,Hee-Sub" Message-ID: <20060119004321.GA58284@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000001c61c89$0da481a0$19a5580a@swcenter.sec.samsung.co.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c61c89$0da481a0$19a5580a@swcenter.sec.samsung.co.kr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: About VFS locking strategy... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:43:23 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:43:55AM +0900, Shin,Hee-Sub wrote: > Hi all.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > I'm speluking with source code of FreeBSD now, comparing VFS of FBSD and > the linux's.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > I have a question related with concurrent accesses to the file system. It > is seemed that VFS locks and unlocks each VNODEs before calling VNODE OPS > provided by underlying FS. For example, it calls vn_lock(vp, ...) before > jumps to VOP_READ() in vn_read().=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > WindowsCE kernel also has a component that is responsible for switching FS > requests to appropriate file-system underlying and similar with VFS of ma= ny > UNIX variants, but it's not perfectly same. In WindowsCE world, file syst= em > driver code can be called on re-entry and file system programmer should > keep this in mind. The manager does not manage any synchronization proble= ms > that can be occurred when multiple threads access to the file system. It > has only a few locks for protecting its own data structures.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > How does it manage synchronization problems in the VFS of FreeBSD?=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Please give me a detailed description about lock strategy the FreeBSD use= s.=20 This question might be too general to get any replies, but it would still be better asked on fs@ or hackers@. Kris --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzuCpWry0BWjoQKURAgsJAKCm5XsvtC34txjnfOx7IO7X54dymgCeMDIc BejZJeE9I9s/IK67DRL4ZTc= =loE4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:44:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA10C16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4708A43D53 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B941A3C1F; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 67A5454A48; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:44:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:44:03 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20060119004403.GB58284@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0 for nfsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:44:05 -0000 --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:52:26AM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I known that's a question come 1000 times when there are a new release... >=20 > I must re-install my nfs server (actually run under FreeBSD 4.7 perfectly= ). >=20 > I want to install FreeBSD 6.0-stable or FreeBSD 6.0-Release because on the > www.freebsd.org this tag is ?Production...?. But is it a good idea ? Maybe > FreeBSD 5.4-Release is enough ? >=20 > What's adavantage can I've to install FreeBSD 6.0 instead 5.x ? (The only > thing I want is the best performance AND best stability for...nfs). 6.0 should perform much better than 5.4 for this task. It is also more stable than 5.4-RELEASE in general. Kris --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzuDTWry0BWjoQKURApUaAJoCYiTw5ndgrjk5tKFbCKnH2caOcACeN2ex U3l0MIgB41FpjeHC8X3oBPw= =c8jr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 00:45:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF6A16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:45:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2523443D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:45:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so68479uge for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:45:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AYD8onzEBlyBPIRg71s2D1LAa42EY++x5r7HQ8Km1oXuOWaE79OvOfwvaa0uPB+GIuuySLsAXgER5Ja7+b5RMFg2rCoGpPzv2CPt+xauQgAxcmUf0lyGOEOA6ddAGd1e0VmufooPOeu2wFHXgWCLsI1FMB3PjsmgRzk59DnT0rY= Received: by 10.49.91.4 with SMTP id t4mr480516nfl; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.157.16 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:56:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7daacbbe0601181356q131bc2d7kd044d924e13079f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:56:09 +0100 From: Dominique Goncalves To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: nsswitch.conf with ldap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:45:33 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to use ldap database in /etc/nsswitch.conf but FreeBSD hangs on boot if it needs to bind a system user present in files, my nsswitch.conf: group: files ldap group_compat: nis hosts: files dns networks: files passwd: files ldap passwd_compat: nis shells: files Adding ldap after FreeBSD has started, everything works ok. I've done some test with truss on single user mode with and without ldap in nsswitch.conf and binding a system user present in files and it only works if there is no ldap in nsswitch.conf truss with ldap in nsswitch.conf: http://djdomics.free.fr/FreeBSD/nss-w-lda= p.txt truss without ldap in nsswitch.conf: http://djdomics.free.fr/FreeBSD/nss-wo-ldap.txt I use: FreeBSD djdomics.sceen.net 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #5: Thu Jan 12 00:18:18 CET 2006 =20 root@djdomics.sceen.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DJDOMICS i386 According to nsswitch.conf(5) The default criteria is to return on ``success'', and continue on any- thing else (i.e, [success=3Dreturn notfound=3Dcontinue unavail=3Dcontinue tryagain=3Dcontinue]). Why FreeBSD tries to use ldap database if my user system is on files ? Thanks for the help. Regards. -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 01:03:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C645E16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C42D43D4C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EzOCw-0001uW-Lk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:22 +0100 Received: from 84.77.53.226 ([84.77.53.226]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:22 +0100 Received: from matiassurdi by 84.77.53.226 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:12 +0100 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <20060118163816.GA34709@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.77.53.226 User-Agent: KNode/0.10 Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:03:48 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias wrote: >> poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: >> > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora >> > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? >> > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? >> >> Give a look at gentoo .... it's inspired by FreeBSD, and is linux as >> well.... the portage system works great... and as a personal opinion: Use >> gentoo for Home / Desktop / Office use.... use FreeBSD For web/ftp/file/ >> etc.. Servers..... > > Nah. Why use something that is "BSD-like" when you can get the Real > Thing(TM) for free? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It's just another option..... I like very much both of them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 02:03:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8366616A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37BD43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0J23i7o008267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:03:44 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.21] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0J23WUn017931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:03:41 -0800 Message-ID: <43CEF36F.4010009@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:03:27 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> <20060119004403.GB58284@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060119004403.GB58284@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: 6.0 for nfsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:46 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:52:26AM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I known that's a question come 1000 times when there are a new release... >> >> I must re-install my nfs server (actually run under FreeBSD 4.7 perfectly). >> >> I want to install FreeBSD 6.0-stable or FreeBSD 6.0-Release because on the >> www.freebsd.org this tag is ?Production...?. But is it a good idea ? Maybe >> FreeBSD 5.4-Release is enough ? >> >> What's adavantage can I've to install FreeBSD 6.0 instead 5.x ? (The only >> thing I want is the best performance AND best stability for...nfs). >> > > 6.0 should perform much better than 5.4 for this task. It is also > more stable than 5.4-RELEASE in general. > > Kris > 6.0 has pretty solid NFS, as did 5.4, but perhaps better. I have an idea because I use NFS quite regularly. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 02:19:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA3816A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BCE43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=36559 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzPOR-0008Cr-IY; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:19:19 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:56113 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EzPOG-0000fR-HD; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:19:08 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:16:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: :N, f2_*44g[tRY8Y-gL2zi`G|<6SpFjTeHt|V5LO6Yl2E7yAfEh{E6-8pqxUFX"l)=?utf-8?q?Nm8y=7E=0A=09IWJSAWQ=7D+=3DpP=7CT=5D?=@sy1sz%h)*CW6gtbp]"fe@MjICtIUo.0, CH~{[R4PXSyL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601190216.27059.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Tsu-Fan Cheng Subject: Re: mencoder/mplayer slower on freebsd 6.0-amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:19:21 -0000 On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:28, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I don't know if this is related, but I noticed that, when I run "mkxvcd" > under amd64, it takes longer time to finish a movie conversion. I didn't do > a side-by-side comparison between amd64 and i386 system, but usually a job > will take less than an hour to finish on i386 would take more than that > (usually like 2 hours) on the amd64. > mkxvcd calls up mplayer/mencoder to do the conversion, while running the > command, it prompted: > [code] > mplayer: could not connect to socket > mplayer: Socket operation on non-socket > [/code] > is this the problem? No, this is about it trying to find a remote control. Dan (don't know about amd64 vs i386, perhaps you must not use runtime CPU detection with non-i386?) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 02:46:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E0D16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:46:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpappas12@yahoo.com) Received: from web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11E6543D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpappas12@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49759 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2006 02:46:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zf0Jrno8PYj94XuCL5nTWOpRVygfYy19/XetgumghRN8kLEExGe5DKm+JuTYcgR7a68s7DnpxWh9sy/u8vFCIcZ94Lcjp39+XdAVG0rER71CcKi8yUueahLB35zVGCTK+v3m4RN+8NlR+MWjaMVn3qJNG6fQGd96UA4yUwOi06g= ; Message-ID: <20060119024654.49756.qmail@web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.213.165.176] by web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:46:54 PST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:46:54 -0800 (PST) From: George Pappas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Can't find what's causing high system loads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:46:55 -0000 I'm running 5.4R on a dual Xeon machine. Until today all has been fine, system is usually 80-90% idle with a load of 0.2-0.3 all the time. Suddenly it's consistently only 40-50% idle with a load of 1.5-2.5. top shows nothing except that the load is coming as system processes, 30-40% where it used to be only 2-3%. However, running top with -S still shows nothing. I don't recall doing anything that would explain this. What can I look for to explain this sudden increase in system load? I've included a snapshot of top below George --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- last pid: 29263; load averages: 1.88, 1.94, 1.81 up 0+15:03:45 21:42:04 701 processes: 22 running, 600 sleeping, 79 waiting CPU states: 10.3% user, 0.0% nice, 40.0% system, 1.0% interrupt, 48.8% idle Mem: 277M Active, 1332M Inact, 211M Wired, 69M Cache, 112M Buf, 113M Free Swap: 748M Total, 748M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 11 root 106 0 0K 12K RUN 3 605:38 64.65% 64.65% idle: cpu3 12 root 105 0 0K 12K RUN 2 537:46 58.84% 58.84% idle: cpu2 13 root 105 0 0K 12K RUN 1 513:30 57.08% 57.08% idle: cpu1 14 root 105 0 0K 12K RUN 0 518:14 55.57% 55.57% idle: cpu0 978 root 96 0 15844K 9264K CPU2 3 1:27 0.10% 0.10% httpd 459 bind 119 0 51860K 50312K RUN 1 19.1H 0.05% 0.05% named 35 root -68 -187 0K 12K RUN 0 7:16 0.05% 0.05% irq22: fxp0 --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:31:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A89A16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle.apana.org.au [203.3.126.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285AC43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bob (jwillson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.224]) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id k0G01Wkk073922; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:01:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <002e01c61a30$18ae3420$0101a8c0@bob> From: "Bob @ Brisbane" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:02:03 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Cc: david@catwhisker.org Subject: Fw: Fw: Testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:48 -0000 I have been trying to get onto these lists for a while now but I was unable to until David Wolfskill intervened and specifically allowed me in the records. Thanks David and others who replied to my earlier problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wolfskill" To: "Bob @ Brisbane" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Testing > On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:57:29AM +1000, Bob @ Brisbane wrote: >> Hi David >> Could we use a hammer to smash the nut and just allow the IP address for >> the time being. >> It often takes weeks before APANA gets around to fixing anything. >> My IP 203.3.126.224 is a fixed number and has been mine for some years. >> Bob Willson > > I'm (somewhat) sympathetic -- my IP address is residential DSL, but > static. (I got it before the telco started using the PPPoE > abomination.) Though I consider myself fortunate: though they refuse > to "do DNS" for that IP address (meaning that they won't put something I > specify in their zone files, nor will they delegate the ability to be > authoritative for the in-addr.arpa entry in question to me), they do > have a consistent pair of A and PTR records. > > Anyway, I did it; please re-test the failing condition. > > Peace, > david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > It is courteous to reduce quoted text to just that needed to establish > context. > > See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. Below this is a cut and pasted earlier message from David that describes the problem I faced. On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 01:36:16PM +1000, Bob @ Brisbane wrote: > Hi David > Thanks for your interest and help. > > I have used the address jwillson@brisbane.apana.org.au and also the > jeremywillson@yahoo.com address to send two email test letters from each > address to: postmaster@freebsd.or and also freebsd-test@freebsd.org. Right. And I see one message in the freebsd-test@ archive that you sent to freebsd-test without a Cc: to postmaster@ (as well). The first message I have that you sent to both was Message-Id <003801c61982$baa3aed0$0101a8c0@bob>, which hit mx1.freebsd.org at Jan 15 03:20:37 (UTC). The reason mx1 gave for declining to accept it on behalf of freebsd-test was "450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname". And checking: mx1(4.9-S)[8] host 203.185.225.22 Host not found. mx1(4.9-S)[9] Right. (You may be thinking that "203.185.225.22" isn't a hostname. While that is, in some senses, correct, it's not especially relevant. More below.) Here is a blurb I cobbled up a bit ago: The SMTP server in this case, mx1.freebsd.org, is set up so that it requires: * that the IP address "reverse-resolve" to a hostname and * that the hostname thus obtained resolve a set of IP addresses, one of which must match the IP address of the client and * the (fully-qualified) hostname given in the SMTP conversation (either HELO or EHLO) must resolve a set of IP addresses, one of which must match the IP address of the client. In the case in point (IP address 203.185.225.22, allocated to POWERTEL LIMITED), the first condition fails to be met. You have some options: * Use the ISP's designated mail relay host(s) (assuming, of course, that the machine(s) in question are set up to meet the above criteria). * Relay the mail off of some other machine that meets the criteria. * Finally, if neither of the above is workable, let me (postmaster@) know, and I can add that IP address to a list of "accepted" SMTP clients. Please note that this won't be very useful if the IP address assignment is dynamic. Since the mail from the Y! account worked, I don't see much point in going over it. Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org It is courteous to reduce quoted text to just that needed to establish context. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:31:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B282516A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle.apana.org.au [203.3.126.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098F843D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bob (jwillson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.224]) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id k0FMlwkk072910; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:47:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <000e01c61a25$d173d7e0$0101a8c0@bob> From: "Bob @ Brisbane" To: "Ian Smith" References: <43CA6674.98FAF2A7@nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:48:29 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:49 -0000 This is from my apana address. I get both the item to me and also the one from the list. Bob Willson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Smith" To: ; Cc: ; "Micah" ; Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Difficulty asking questions > gday, > > sending this to both of your addresses, and -questions. You should get > three. If you reply, esp from your apana address, I could check a) that > you can post to me at least :) and b) see what the headers suggest about > reverse IP resolution. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:31:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A42816A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from gargoyle.apana.org.au (gargoyle.apana.org.au [203.3.126.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E4843D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from bob (jwillson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.224]) by gargoyle.apana.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id k0G04Fkk073971 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:04:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jwillson@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <002f01c61a30$799e2ec0$0101a8c0@bob> From: "Bob @ Brisbane" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:04:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:36:51 +0000 Subject: I belong to too many groups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:31:46 -0000 It took me so long to get onto this list that in the end I just gave and reinstalled over the top of the old one. It all works now, but I would still be interested in a way around the problem if one exists. The original problem is described below I recently installed FreeBSD 6 RELEASE onto a hard drive and added two other users, bob and bill. Whilst I was doing this I decided to make root and bob members of ALL the groups in the system. I now find that I am unable to log in as either root or bob nor can I su from bob. I have tried booting to safe mode but it will still not allow me to do anything The messages that I get from the system are: login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 login: initgroups(root,0) : Invalid argument login: setusercontext() failed - exiting I can still log in as bill and this will allow me to see the system files but bill doesn't have the authority to change anything. I tried to su to root but bill is not in the wheel group. If I want to run a graphical environment (and I do) then I need to start this up as root. Is there any way to get past this problem or will I need to reinstall? Bob Willson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:40:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411F216A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (www.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6A743D5D for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:40:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM0011e6ede298.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.28.254.189]) by skippyii.compar.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0J3gi2n068537; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:42:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <004601c61caa$2fedf5e0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Bob @ Brisbane" , References: <002f01c61a30$799e2ec0$0101a8c0@bob> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:41:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: Re: I belong to too many groups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:40:13 -0000 > It took me so long to get onto this list that in the end I just gave and > reinstalled over the top of the old one. It all works now, but I would still > be interested in a way around the problem if one exists. The original > problem is described below > > I recently installed FreeBSD 6 RELEASE onto a hard drive and added two other > users, bob and bill. > > Whilst I was doing this I decided to make root and bob members of ALL the > groups in the system. > > I now find that I am unable to log in as either root or bob nor can I su > from bob. > I have tried booting to safe mode but it will still not allow me to do > anything > The messages that I get from the system are: > > login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 > login: initgroups(root,0) : Invalid argument > login: setusercontext() failed - exiting > > I can still log in as bill and this will allow me to see the system files > but bill doesn't have the authority to change anything. > I tried to su to root but bill is not in the wheel group. > If I want to run a graphical environment (and I do) then I need to start > this up as root. > Is there any way to get past this problem or will I need to reinstall? Boot in single-user mode (type "boot -s" at the boot prompt). Then you will be "root" and can fix up your /etc/group files. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:48:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DFF16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephenk@stephenk.com) Received: from iblis.killermartian.com (adsl-66-218-39-226.dslextreme.com [66.218.39.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31CDD43D49 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephenk@stephenk.com) Received: (qmail 90622 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 19:50:02 -0800 Received: from mephistopheles.killermartian.com (HELO mephistopheles) (10.0.69.10) by adsl-66-218-39-226.dslextreme.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 19:50:02 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Krauth X-X-Sender: stephenk@mephistopheles.killermartian.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060118194801.E22208@mephistopheles.killermartian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: cannot install freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:48:44 -0000 I'm unable to even boot the FreeBSD 6.0 install CD (i386 version). I have an AMD64 with an Nvidia nForce 3 250Gb based motherboard (MSI K8N Neo Platinum), currently running 4.10-RELEASE. The 6.0 boot cd dies with: panic: pmap_mapdev: couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory This happens right after the agp0 load message. I tried disabling ACPI with no luck. Please help! I've been a FreeBSD user for almost 10 years and it would be disappointing to give up now... - Steve K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 03:58:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:58:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B359C43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:58:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCB71A3C1B; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88A285154A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:58:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:58:29 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stephen Krauth Message-ID: <20060119035829.GA61728@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060118194801.E22208@mephistopheles.killermartian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060118194801.E22208@mephistopheles.killermartian.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot install freebsd 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:58:31 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:49:12PM -0800, Stephen Krauth wrote: > I'm unable to even boot the FreeBSD 6.0 install CD (i386 version). I hav= e=20 > an AMD64 with an Nvidia nForce 3 250Gb based motherboard (MSI K8N Neo=20 > Platinum), currently running 4.10-RELEASE. The 6.0 boot cd dies with: >=20 > panic: pmap_mapdev: couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory >=20 > This happens right after the agp0 load message. I tried disabling ACPI= =20 > with no luck. >=20 > Please help! I've been a FreeBSD user for almost 10 years and it would b= e=20 > disappointing to give up now... Did you a) Verify the checksum of your iso image, and/or b) Try the amd64 version? Kris --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDzw5kWry0BWjoQKURAtwVAJ4mW4T8dLGmf1OThKekH89imz5CbQCgmY76 pi165zyKKUCYCH3oRA4nm3Y= =YrXz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 04:49:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE7916A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C828D43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:49:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8701F14DDBE; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:49:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:57:25 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Dick Davies Message-ID: <20060118225725.6388961d@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060118001911.0067816A436@hub.freebsd.org> <002401c61bfe$53864770$0807a8c0@admin> <4dd4cddf0601180447i25908100s@mail.gmail.com> <3f1760601180600l4050d396g@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 04:49:05 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:00:59 +0000 Dick Davies wrote: > [Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is > teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the > last 24 hours. > If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.] > > Can we please stop comparing *NIX to windows. They're nothing > like each other. Like all software, they bothsuck in their own > unique ways, it's just that BSD sucks in areas I mainly don't care > about, and windows sucks at most of the things I do care about. > > On 18/01/06, Martin Tournoy wrote: > > > Windows almost runs everything > > > Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years > > back on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work. > > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. And stuff is updated on other OSes as well. This part all around seems over blown... better APIs come and old ones slowly go away. > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > make drivers for their OS, > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with their market share. > > > Upgrading is a pain on windows, upgrading from 98 to 2000 more or > > less needs a format and clean install, while on FreeBSD you have > > much more flexibility, so you can upgrade much easy er. > > Have you ever brought 4.x up to 6.x? It doesn't sound like it. My vote is to backup and reinstall, on major version bumps. I feel the same regardless of the OS. > There are tools to solve this for windows, and there has been > for a long time. > Try updating 200 FreeBSD boxes, then try the same with a decent > imaging system for windows. man 1 dd > > Unix is for the masses, the only problem it has is a proper user > > friendly GUI. > > Then it isn't for the masses. Deal with it. It is not a problem with the interface, but one of a problem with the users. Unix is what ever you want it to be and most people don't know what they want. If some one does not know what they want or what they are doing, they are pretty much screwed regardless of the interface. > > With Windows on the other hand, you *HAVE* to do things as the > > Microsoft programmers envisioned and liked things, and lacks a > > lot of flexibility that FreeBSD does have > > Can you justify that at all? If what you're saying boils down to > 'you have the source' then I don't think that applies to 99% of > users. I feel focusing on what the average moron would do and following in line in ones hardware/software/etc decisions in all around a bad move. Use what works and what you like. > > Say whatever you want, but the Unix permission system is better > > than Window's, it much more simple > > It's also very outdated and has been reinvented several times. > RBAC, SeLinux and MAC would indicate it's not flexible enough for > most people. Nah, it just proves it has been updated in multiple ways. I do agree, what we have currently works nicely. > > The same goes for window's configuration, the registry, it's not > > a bad idea, but horribly failed, now you have a huge file with a > > lot of data, half of it redundant, and the worst is that it's > > undocumented. FreeBSD simply has a set of configuration files, > > mostly in /etc and /usr/local/etc most of them have a man page, > > and an example file in /usr/share/examples/etc > > That's not in itself a good thing. As I understand it, the registry > is a central place for storing configuration details. /etc has > nothing like that. > > Think of something simple like a webserver docroot. Apache > obviously needs to know about that, so might your ftp server, your > backup/mirror scripts and so on. If you ever change that > directories location, you'll have to update everything > that references that path. That's a pain in the arse, and it's only > one of dozens > of annoyances with /etc. > > The arguments you're making above equally > apply to 4.x /etc, and I don't think you'd argue that rcNG is a vast > improvement. > Have a look at things like Solaris SMF and you realise that rcNG > isn't as good as it could be either. The only problem with rcNG is it can't currently handle a dynamic config. I honestly feel this problem of /etc and /usr/local/etc is vastly over stated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 05:23:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ECA16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:23:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vitalie@apostu.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C687D43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:23:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vitalie@apostu.com) Received: from mark.apostu.com (cpe-071-068-120-116.carolina.res.rr.com [71.68.120.116]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0J5N088018391 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sip.compunetworld.net (adsl-065-012-156-049.sip.clt.bellsouth.net [65.12.156.49]) by mark.apostu.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0J5O0AF008717 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:24:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vitalie@apostu.com) Received: from athlon (markusha.apostu.com [192.168.100.40] (may be forged)) by sip.compunetworld.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0J5KrVb000914 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:20:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200601190520.k0J5KrVb000914@sip.compunetworld.net> From: "Vitalie Apostu" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:22:28 -0500 Organization: CompuNetWorld MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcYcuFbbN2xHaTqaRSWnxB6P56vwYg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vitalie@apostu.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:23:03 -0000 When I unplug UTP cable from NIC card and plug it back the system cannot ping any host in network. Does anybody know how to fix it? ---------------------------- Regards, Vitalie Apostu P.O. Box 73 Matthews, NC 28106 Phone: 704.533.1240 vitalie@apostu.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 05:29:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01DD16A422 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:29:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA9F43D5A for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1229A14DAC0; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:29:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:37:42 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Tim Greening-Jackson Message-ID: <20060118233742.7eed8c40@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <1137618915.28416.9.camel@tordella> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <1137618915.28416.9.camel@tordella> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: poczta@gbkonto.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:29:23 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:15 +0000 Tim Greening-Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, poczta@gbkonto.net wrote: > > What is the essential difference > > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > > I have been following this thread (and similar ones over the past > few weeks) and would like to offer my perspective on the "FreeBSD > versus Linux" discussion. FWIW, this isn't a troll, so my apologies > if it upsets some of the more precious people on this list (and > having read the list for the past couple of months you are > definitely out there). > > To explain some background, I used/administered/programmed under > Unix throughout the 1980s and 1990s (SysVR3, BSD4.2, Ultrix...), > and I have been using Linux (RedHat/Fedora) for the past couple of > years. I have recently been using/evaluating FreeBSD. I have no > particular axe to grind in favour of either system. Nearly entirely FreeBSD since I started using unix a 5 years ago. I work with Redhat and Fedora a nice bit at work though. > It's reasonable to assume that the sorts of people asking a question > like "what's the difference..." or "which is better..." aren't > designing brand-new top-end data centres. They are a lot more likely > to be contemplating a move from MS Windows or perhaps have dabbled > with Linux and are curious. I would also suggest that a better > question than "what's better" is "what is more appropriate". > > So, that preamble out of the way, my $0.02 is this. The distinction > "Linux is a kernel; FreeBSD is an O/S" is - frankly - the sort of > jesuitical sophistry that gets UseNet a bad name. The important > things are: > > > EASE OF USE AND INSTALLATION > > Linux is a much, much easier system to install and configure. No > contest. Stick the disks in, it'll pretty much recognise any > sound-card and video interface and will work out of the box without > pissing about configuring X-windows or recompiling the kernel. I'm > sure if you persevere for long enough with FreeBSD it's possible to > get a quite usable desktop, with most of the applications that come > bundled with a release of Linux. The FreeBSD installation process is > like some sort of time-warp back to the 1980s. > > The argument that "most FreeBSD installations are server, so don't > require mice etc." is a circular/self-fulfilling one. People - > frankly > - aren't going to be bothered messing around getting FreeBSD > working. Get used to it. Any time you need to start a X server to run the install, you have something drastically wrong with the installer. Nothing happens during the install that requires graphics... does not make a difference if it is FreeBSD or Fedora. Any one who is serious about using unix as a desktop, really needs to be able to configure X for them selves. BTW FreeBSD recognizes the sound card on all my hardware upon a fresh install. > > COMMUNITY > > The Linux community is much larger than the FreeBSD one. I have > noted certain comments in this mailing list about wanting to stay > "select", like some sort of digital Albania. To be honest, it's > highly likely that your wish will come true. Not been paying to close of attention, but I missed this part... other than the ranting of one or two idiots back there. > Fortunately there is this mailing list. And a couple of books, > although when I went to my local bookstores (large ones, with big > sections on computing) each had an entire shelf of Linux books, but > none on FreeBSD. Thank goodness for Amazon, so I could get Lehey - > which is excellent. > > The relative size of the communities means two things: there's much > more support for Linux and also more applications are ready for > Linux. Just like if I compare Linux with Windows. This list relies > on a small number of dedicated experts who are generous enough with > their time to answer a lot of questions over and over again. > However, the FreeBSD community resembles some sort of religious > cult at times. If FreeBSD wants to be anything other than a small > footnote in the history of computing then it needs to engage a bit > more with the 99.99% of the world who neither know - nor care - > what it is; and who regard re-compiling a kernel as less of a > God-given right and more of a tedious chore. BAH! If one does not bother to be bloody selective one will find brain dead cult like mentality around all OSes. Yeah, that is what kernel modules are for... Crap like this pisses me off... why the hell should FreeBSD be the OS the does it all for you... what do you get when you want something to do that? crap... If enough FreeBSD users feel the need for this or want it, they will fix it. Hence open source. It is designed to provide a base system to build upon. This is what most people forget when they start demanding it do everything for them. That is not it's job, that would properly be the job of either a port or a seperate distribution that uses FreeBSD as the base. > > HARDWARE SUPPORT > > I'd have to say that the hardware support in FreeBSD is probably > better than that in Linux. Certainly it is on the hardware I've > tested. But, for most people it's still a pain. > > > SERVER APPLICATIONS > > All the tests I have done, and all I have read suggests that FreeBSD > is superb for server applications. Once I have convinced myself of > its support for SMB and a couple of other things, then it is highly > likely I will be migrating my own servers over to FreeBSD: that's > the best recommendation you can get. > > > DESKTOP APPLICATIONS > > I love FreeBSD's pkg_add etc. and the ports collection is quite > cool. But, pretty much all the stuff I want to port or add is there > in most Linux distros. Lots of stuff also just doesn't work out of > the box like it should. I have to force pkg_add to do strange stuff > or there are other strange dependencies. > > If you're prepared to work on it, then you can get most applications > running on FreeBSD, but it's still easier on Linux. What do you mean it does not work out of the box like it should? How the hell is the install suppose to know what the user wants to do with a installed program? > > SUMMARY > > IF you are prepared to work on it, FreeBSD looks like a great server > operating system. If you're just an ordinary joe who wants a > Unix-style OS then Linux is much easier to install, configure etc., > has more desktop type applications which work first time etc. > > If you are building a data-centre which requires highly available > servers then FreeBSD is better than Linux. But if you are in that > sort of market you already know that, and are probably intending to > wait a couple of months until Solaris goes open-source. If one are a ordinary joe that does not wish to look into what OS one is running, one is screwed. This does not matter if it is Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and ect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 05:43:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA316A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:43:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF443D49 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D1A14DD2A; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:43:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:52:00 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: ann kok Message-ID: <20060118235200.1d99a961@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <20060118173348.97500.qmail@web53314.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060118173348.97500.qmail@web53314.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 6.0 rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:43:38 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:33:48 -0800 (PST) ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > I have 2 questons about rc.conf > > 1/ I want to stop sendmail running in the box. in the > man page in rc.sendmail. it said to put the following > in rc.conf. "to completely prevent any snedmail(8) > daemons from starting. but my sendmail is still > running in the box! > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > 2/ When I put quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box > is in boot process and seems to not in logon prompt. Probally because quagga is hanging for some reason and rc.d is waiting for it to exit, so it can continue. Generally this can be bypassed by hitting control-C. > but I remove quagga_flags="start" in rc.conf, the box > is in the logon prompt > > Why? > > Thank you for your help > > defaultrouter="NO" > quagga_enable="YES" > quagga_daemons="zebra bgpd" > quagga_flags="start" > router_enable="NO" Just look at the rcNG startup script for it. I don't think quagga_flags is used. It is a little late here, so I may be wrong on that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 05:44:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BE416A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:44:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from mail07.powweb.com (mail07.powweb.com [66.152.97.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A223C43D62 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (24-119-122-41.cpe.cableone.net [24.119.122.41]) by mail07.powweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2226E14D9A4; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:53:05 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Eric Smith Message-ID: <20060118235305.59032e05@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <94898bac0601180957k6f832c0xdac97a4b76c451c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <94898bac0601180957k6f832c0xdac97a4b76c451c0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Multiple install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:44:45 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:57:58 -0800 Eric Smith wrote: > Do you know of a drive clone that will work well with distributing > freebsd installations to multiple servers via network. nfs+dd+a bootable cd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 06:10:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3646016A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (rly-ip08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FE943D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com [195.93.24.101]) by rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0U1KOOR031534; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:20:26 -0500 Received: from avrBSD.radegund (ACC8C8CA.ipt.aol.com [172.200.200.202]) by smtp-los04.proxy.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0J69kfZ028756; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:09:46 -0500 From: Spiros Papadopoulos To: Jose Jesus Ortega , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:05:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20060119002308.42032.qmail@web82011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060119002308.42032.qmail@web82011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601190605.59907.spap@avrolymos.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Subject: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:10:18 -0000 On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:23, Jose Jesus Ortega wrote: > thanks but the Fn+F7 didn't help, nothing happens, and > yes I'm using a laptop. Is there another way? > I never had this problem myself. I have a friend with an HP laptop that gets the command line interface always in the middle of the screen. However KDE works fine for him so we never got messed with this until know.. The only difference i can see right now is that he gives #kdm and not #startx to start KDE and it starts normally (whole screen) In his case Fn + F7 combination doesn't work with the non-graphical interface but works with KDE. To further help you personaly i will have a look but not in less than 10-12 hours from now. are you editing the xorg.conf file or using #xorgconfig (or similar command) to make changes? Anyone else faced with this already? /* Sorry that i didn't cc before.... */ Spiros > --- Spiros Papadopoulos wrote: > > Hi > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jose Jesus > > > > Ortega > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:20 AM > > > To: questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: question > > > > > > I installed freeBSD 6.0 on my pc and kde but > > > > starting > > > > > "startx" > > > will only display a small part of the whole > > > > screen. > > > > Is your pc a laptop? > > For example if this happens on my laptop, I may be > > able to alter it with the > > combination "Fn+F7". Is there such chance in your > > case? > > Just in case this helps. > > > > >I tried > > > configuring the X11 but when I add the "HorizSync" > > > > at > > > > > 30-107 and "VertRefresh" at 48-120 the screen only > > > diplays colors. How do I make it make kde appear > > > > with > > > > > the whole screen? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions- > > > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 07:21:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2E916A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:21:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from coredumped@coredumped.org.ru) Received: from plus.ru (relay.plus.ru [82.179.192.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FC43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from coredumped@coredumped.org.ru) Received: from [85.141.183.240] (account coredumped@coredumped.org.ru HELO [IPv6:::1]) by plus.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.9) with ESMTP-TLS id 72540759; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:21:34 +0300 Message-ID: <43CF3DEF.8010901@coredumped.org.ru> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:21:19 +0300 From: Eugeny Kuzakov User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maksim Yevmenkin References: <43C7DA71.5080609@coredumped.org.ru> <43C82162.40909@coredumped.org.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kbdmux: unable to work with dual keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:21:33 -0000 Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > well, you are doing something wrong. stupid questions: did you kldload > kbdmux? is your userland and kernel in sync? i just tried > Dear Max, I have synchronized sources then recompiled world&kernel -- no success. And then I have removed any kbdmux related directoried and resynchronized sources and etc. Now everything is works!!!! Thank you!:) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 09:21:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E7716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:21:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AB643D58 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.atosorigin.es [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2082E0A5; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:21:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CF5A52.2020100@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:22:26 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <20060119001447.31041.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060119001447.31041.qmail@web60014.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:21:33 -0000 Peter wrote: > --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > >> Gable Barber wrote: >>> On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: >>>> Switch over to pf. >>>> >>> Why do you suggest PF over IPF? >>> >>> Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in >> the >>> opinions. >> I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some version >> that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed since >> but I have found no reason to go back. >> >> There are two things I miss from IPF: >> >> a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful >> filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a state >> is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not >> counted. > > That's not true. Hi Peter, it would be quite useful if you would contribute with knowledge instead of empty claims. And if you don't care to explain in verbose mode, at least provide a link to where the knowledge is found. If I am wrong, I'd like to learn the solution. I need host based counting that distinguish up- and download. AFAIK this means I can't use tables and hence I have to reload the entire ruleset to add or remove a host. This is quite annoying compared to IPF where I can load or delete a single rule from the active ruleset - and thanks to groups, I can make sure a rule get inserted the right place. And, I still don't know the easy solution to get the numbers out. Of course there is a point in PF, namely that there is just one ruleset whereas in IPF filtering and accounting rules are separate. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 09:30:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD1C16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.ru) Received: from speechpro.ru (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26F43D49 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:30:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.ru) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EzW7y-000Ewh-L8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:30:46 +0300 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EzW7V-0000DL-F2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:30:17 +0300 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k0J9UH3A000826 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:30:17 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:30:16 +0300 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060119093016.GA726@sysadm.stc> References: <43CB9107.6090105@isonews2.com> <44d5irf3pt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44d5irf3pt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: compile with HFS+ support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:30:48 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:17:50AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > david writes: > > > how can i compile freebsd GENERIC kernel with HFS+ support?sorry for > > stupid question.i am newbie in freebsd > > I don't think there is kernel support, but there are some ports (e.g., > /usr/ports/emulators/hfsutils) that help you read HFS. There IS kernel support http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ To original poster: try search on main FreeBSD.org before asking questions. There are great chance that you find something useful :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 09:35:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86DF16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:35:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE5343D49 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:35:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0J9Z4uC012118; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:35:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id k0J9Z0Qb012089; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:35:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:35:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <43CE837F.2000007@mac.com> Message-ID: <20060119103009.W11397@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43CE837F.2000007@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:35:17 -0000 >> nobody here do backups of their systems? strange?! > > I backup and restore using those self-named tools on a variety of DLT and 4mm > DAT tape drives. 4mm DDS DAT kinda sucks, and they are super-sensitive to > being cleaned a lot. > i'm using DVD+RW discs. after doing dvd+rw-format for a first time, it could be used directly (as /dev/acd1) for dump but blocksize must be 32 and -B 4590208 must be entered. > Did you have a more specific question...? > yes - i did before. i have problems with restore. dump is about 60GB and 1.5 million files. two problems when doing restore -rvf /device 1) after extracting all directory listing it starts to do "Make node..." but after some of it done, it starts to take 100% CPU and work for about 1 hour on PII/400 before finishing it. eventually it finishes, so it's not such a big problem 2) after restoring 7 volumes, at 8-th volume it tried to prepend ? to every pathname extracted so it resulted in error unable to create. doing ln -s \? . and restarting restore from 8-th volume worked and i was able to finish things. why restore failed? and how to dump without fear! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 10:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6FC16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:55:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BD843D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:55:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE59DD76B; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:53:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:56:07 +0100 From: cpghost To: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen Message-ID: <20060119105607.GA40862@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <7349.212.160.155.37.1137518111.squirrel@poczta.b.win.pl> <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CD3F73.2040003@matzsoft.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:55:51 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:03:15PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > My hardware is fully supported by FreeBSD and in fact some of it was > supported earlier on FreeBSD than on Linux. > For example, the Brooktree bktr(4) Video-Capture driver existed first on > FreeBSD, also high-speed cd-burning was > not possible on Linux without eating all available cpu-time, before > kernel 2.6 -- at that time FreeBSD burned my cd's > at 52x-speed without noticeable cpu-usage. Multimedia was always a > glance on FreeBSD -- dvd-playback/record, > xvid-encoding, tv-capturing, blender -- all ever worked like a champ. > Additionally to that, i would never move back to a linux distro, simply > because their archaic package-management > is not half as reliable in day-to-day-use as the FreeBSD ports tree. I > am running the same FreeBSD install since 4.9 > and it was easy and non-problematic to update to even major release > changes. Even if that criticism doesnt apply > as much to gentoo, which has some good efforts to use a "ports-tree" > under Linux, I just prefer the original :) Same here. Using FreeBSD as a multimedia workstation and very happy with it. There are still a few shortcomings though, like missing MIDI recording (not playback) functionality and no support for my Pinnacle DC10+ Zoran video capture card; but if I need that, I'd just dual-boot into gentoo (which *does* feel a lot like FreeBSD from an admin POV and the main reason I picked that distro, just to feel more at home), do whatever is needed, and then reboot into FreeBSD. Not ideal, but workable. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 11:16:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7B816A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (213-247-62-79.ip.netshark.nl [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B322B43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix, from userid 106) id 1045E3D8C3C; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:34:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE86F3D756B for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:34:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CF752A.6080507@celeritystorm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:58 +0000 From: "M. L." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Apache & PV entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:53 -0000 Hello list, I am configuring a very heavily used apache webserver, that required some special needs. This particular configuration needs to have at least 1024 httpds always running. Reaching this number is not a problem, but whenever I stop apache via apachectl stop, I notice all the httpds take a long time (1 min) to vanish - and meanwhile, top shows most of them locked. The states I see in top are: *vm ob RUN while the header shows: 1038 processes:332 running, 12 sleeping, 694 lock The numbers vary a lot. Eventually, they get killed, but it takes too much time. After some searching, I found out the cause for this was running out of PVs. I've added the following relevant options to the kernel: options KVA_PAGES=768 options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=5120 sysctl vm.zone | grep PV shows: (note: httpd stopped here) (limit) (used) (free) (requests) PV ENTRY: 24, 84410445, 5522, 1632543, 5381679 So, if my assumptions are correct, and running out of PVs was the cause (I did get that message about increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC before I placed that in the kernel), there is a problem now. If you look at the vm.zone output, there are 84,410,445 PVs that could exist, but the system shows only 1,632,543 free. This leads me to believe there is another thing to tune. I already have a high PVs limit, but according to this output, it's not going further than 1,6 millions. My question is, what can I do to make the system use the full 84 millions, as I have not found any way to do this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 11:27:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE8D16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A6B43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=admin) by pih-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1EzXxB-0005wz-1C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:45 +0000 Message-ID: <008001c61ceb$5cfdff80$0807a8c0@admin> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20060119105613.CBDC416A43A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:47 -0000 Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's) What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z? Thinking about it now, if I was asking the same question and someone said "Why not try out FreeBSD and make your own mind up!" I may think they where being a tad dismissive however there can never be any substitue for hands on experience !! To that guy (wherever he is now) :- Download FreeBSD and get it installed, its great! Come back and ask if you have any problems or questions and we will do our best to help :)) Happy FreeBSD'ing !!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 12:29:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E77F16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA7243D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:29:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 19642 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.173.203]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2006 12:29:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:29:03 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: vitalie@apostu.com Message-ID: <20060119132903.657f1278@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200601190520.k0J5KrVb000914@sip.compunetworld.net> References: <200601190520.k0J5KrVb000914@sip.compunetworld.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_7ZEI3iPQEwPP+vGFmrr_9tW; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:29:09 -0000 --Sig_7ZEI3iPQEwPP+vGFmrr_9tW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Vitalie Apostu" wrote: > When I unplug UTP cable from NIC card and plug it back the system > cannot ping any host in network.=20 > Does anybody know how to fix it? Did you try ifconfig $nic_device up? Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_7ZEI3iPQEwPP+vGFmrr_9tW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDz4YUjV8GA4rMKUQRAl9eAJ9BSZf8JB2Hs0VLdePeY7ND5Iwx5ACg15QU PMvtM+G790EqOajx0hP7ld4= =LSEj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_7ZEI3iPQEwPP+vGFmrr_9tW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 08:09:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A4E16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:09:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netanbu@yahoo.com) Received: from web35614.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35614.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B16543D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:09:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from netanbu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87501 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2006 08:09:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H+4zPcVkjGMmGgUYB2TkOpWDBolfc0u7jauEBMr/bIWqi9SIGDoJmHvcGhtHWf4JKd5TLT7H6RBZWMS1g4YFdSRQfnslym8zNb1HNXAgyjLeNHT49j8e1Pmrd0YNw3pL4Mo5Rx0xthcvN8juX5j86CpnbDEGlt0Rok/M8+r+bn8= ; Message-ID: <20060119080912.87499.qmail@web35614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.54.183.66] by web35614.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:09:12 PST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 00:09:12 -0800 (PST) From: Anbu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:44:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: netanbu@yahoo.com Subject: Sendmail Auto reply (Mail forwarding) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:09:13 -0000 Hi, I am working on a task to complete the autoreply from sendmail, I am getting the autoreply (Using usemin-->Mailforwarding), But the response is very slow. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 12:48:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBE216A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:48:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gena@birdaero.com) Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4795F43D4C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:48:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gena@birdaero.com) Received: from genadydevcomp ([199.203.169.70]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0ITC00DEWBKFGU10@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:48:16 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:51:47 +0200 From: Genady Chapovetsky To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <002501c61cf7$1baefaf0$1a0710ac@genadydevcomp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AcYc9xuILkSSCr+WTCKrjWyldPGyTQ== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:51:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: need your recommendations / examples for add AC97 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:48:28 -0000 Hi. Thank You for support. Can I ask you help me create AC97 application for RT application? My OS Integrity (GHS), I have experience with Integrity device driver but I need your recommendations / examples for add AC97 driver. )usually I use Linux driver-application as references( My h/w shell PC Intel Pentium base. Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:11:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDD516A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:11:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from content-filter@makana.gov.za) Received: from smtp2.imaginet.co.za (smtp2.imaginet.co.za [196.34.166.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B32643D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:11:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from content-filter@makana.gov.za) Received: from [196.211.28.150] (helo=makana.gov.za) by smtp2.imaginet.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1EzZYv-000CqH-FU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:10:50 +0200 Received: from 192.168.13.10 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:11:03 +0200 From: "WorkgroupMail Content Filter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: "WorkgroupMail Content Filter" Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:11:02 +0200 X-WM-Plugin-Generated: MailScan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-Whitelisted: The user has authenticated (1). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:21:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA3816A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from janeway.egs.uct.ac.za (janeway.egs.uct.ac.za [196.21.8.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC6B43D53 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:21:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za) Received: from [196.21.8.146] (helo=particle.egs.uct.ac.za) by janeway.egs.uct.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1EzZif-0001LT-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:20:53 +0200 From: Kilian Hagemann Organization: University of Cape Town To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:21:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <44255.195.139.252.5.1137597225.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> <200601181746.51461.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <200601181746.51461.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601191521.13840.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Subject: Haven't been hacked, just prone to man-in-the-middle attacks (WAS: I have been hacked) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:21:09 -0000 Hi guys, Just to find closure on this thread, I'd like to admit that I jumped to conclusions too early and would like to share what had actually happened, after many hours wasted playing the detective :-( (glad I didn't format/reinstall though) When I "used" my FreeBSD gateway as an smtp server to convince myself I had been hacked, the smtp connection was somehow redirected to one of my institution's mail servers (or at least that's what gmail's mail headers are saying). Funny enough the same trick no longer works today, but then they're currently upgrading lots of stuff around here so that's a different story. Then when I used ftp to connect to my gateway and it came up with "frox transparent proxy", someone had actually intercepted my connection and forged/spoofed a reply. I know that because I went to the premises of my box, unplugged everything and tried that trick again, successfully, from a separate dial-up connection. Hey, nmap even told me my box had ports open even though it wasn't even up! I've never seen anything like this before, but I've notified my ISP. Remains to be seen if they do anything about it... Anyway, long story short I'm glad I'm still secure and thanks to everyone who helped me out and gave me advice. -- Kilian Hagemann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:22:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBBE16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7386E43D58 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060119132236.UNCH22981.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:36 +0000 Received: from cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com ([82.25.112.91]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060119132236.ETHZ19063.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:36 +0000 From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh Organization: Non Gratum Anus Rodentum To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:23 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20060119120049.8D1DD16A425@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20060119120049.8D1DD16A425@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601191322.24164.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 121, Issue 38 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:22:38 -0000 > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:27:42 -0000 > From: "Graham Bentley" > Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > To: > Message-ID: <008001c61ceb$5cfdff80$0807a8c0@admin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <..... snip .....> > To that guy (wherever he is now) :- > > Download FreeBSD and get it installed, its great! > > Come back and ask if you have any problems or > questions and we will do our best to help :)) > > Happy FreeBSD'ing !!! > A refreshing answer, comrade B. Nice to read... Deej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:30:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A64616A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B74743D4C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011913302301300d78tde>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:30:23 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CDA1917024; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:30:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:30:22 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Eric Smith Message-ID: <20060119133022.GA83544@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Smith , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <94898bac0601180957k6f832c0xdac97a4b76c451c0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <94898bac0601180957k6f832c0xdac97a4b76c451c0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Multiple install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:30:24 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:57:58AM -0800, Eric Smith wrote: > Do you know of a drive clone that will work well with distributing freebsd > installations to multiple servers via network. g4u (Ghost for You) works over ftp -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:34:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C027516A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D7F43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:34:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0JDXusU053077; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:33:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43CF955C.5010209@wmptl.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:34:20 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bob @ Brisbane" References: <002f01c61a30$799e2ec0$0101a8c0@bob> In-Reply-To: <002f01c61a30$799e2ec0$0101a8c0@bob> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I belong to too many groups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:34:01 -0000 Bob @ Brisbane wrote: > It took me so long to get onto this list that in the end I just gave and > reinstalled over the top of the old one. It all works now, but I would > still be interested in a way around the problem if one exists. The > original problem is described below > > I recently installed FreeBSD 6 RELEASE onto a hard drive and added two > other > users, bob and bill. > > Whilst I was doing this I decided to make root and bob members of ALL the > groups in the system. > > I now find that I am unable to log in as either root or bob nor can I su > from bob. > I have tried booting to safe mode but it will still not allow me to do > anything > The messages that I get from the system are: > > login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 > login: initgroups(root,0) : Invalid argument > login: setusercontext() failed - exiting > > I can still log in as bill and this will allow me to see the system files > but bill doesn't have the authority to change anything. > I tried to su to root but bill is not in the wheel group. > If I want to run a graphical environment (and I do) then I need to start > this up as root. > Is there any way to get past this problem or will I need to reinstall? > > > Bob Willson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You could always bootup the 'fixit' image from the install cd, then mount your root partition, and vi /etc/group. That's what I'd do given your case; if you are unsure of how to mount the partition, bootup your machine, login as 'bill', type 'mount' and look at which partition is mounted to '/'. Then bootup the fixit image, and 'mount /dev/_your_root_slice /mnt', then simply 'vi /mnt/etc/group'. Should be fairly straight forward, email back to the list if you still have problems with it. -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 13:41:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C073016A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:41:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AD243D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:41:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id AAA22425 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:41:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:41:25 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Compaq Armada 1500c with ext USB drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:41:31 -0000 [originally posted to -mobile 4 days ago, but I've had no response ..] $subject running 4.5-RELEASE since 2002, no problems but perenially full 4GB drive and way-too-ancient wi for newer cards: past time to upgrade. 5.4 CDs and new 40GB drive arriving in a few days. In the meanwhile have borrowed an external USB 2.5" 20GB drive for hopefully clean full backup, but after much struggle and study I just can't get it to go despite USB and SCSI attachment seeming fine. Always, bottom line, 'Unit not ready'. The external USB drive is recognised, attached and works fine on 2 'doze boxes, a '98 desktop and a modern Compaq laptop running XP; on the former I created a FAT32 first partition and copied a few files onto it. Relevant extracts from dmesg.boot are below, but first I'll describe the problem appearance; perhaps someone will recognise it straight up? This is using an added USB 4 port powered hub, the ext drive having an extra power-only USB plug reportedly needed by some USB systems; no difference: Jan 15 15:36:41 paqi /kernel: uhub1: Genesys Logic, Inc. USB2.0 Hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/6.0b, addr 2 Jan 15 15:36:41 paqi /kernel: uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered Adding the drive: Jan 15 15:40:18 paqi /kernel: umass0: Genesys Logic, Inc. USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.02, addr 3 Jan 15 15:40:18 paqi /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jan 15 15:40:18 paqi /kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 15 15:40:18 paqi /kernel: da0: 650KB/s transfers Jan 15 15:40:18 paqi /kernel: da0: 19077MB (39070080 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 19077C) paqi# camcontrol rescan da0 Re-scan of bus 0 was successful paqi# usbdevs -v Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 0x0100 port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, USB2.0 Hub(0x0605), Genesys Logic, Inc.(0x05e3), rev 0x060b port 1 addr 3: self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0702), Genesys Logic, Inc.(0x05e3), rev 0x0002 port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered port 2 powered paqi# camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on umass-sim0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0) scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) paqi# camcontrol negotiate da0 -v Current Parameters: umass-sim0: SIM/HBA version: 1 umass-sim0: HBA engine count: 0 umass-sim0: maximum target: 32 umass-sim0: maximum LUN: 0 umass-sim0: highest path ID in subsystem: 0 umass-sim0: initiator ID: 32 umass-sim0: SIM vendor: FreeBSD umass-sim0: HBA vendor: USB SCSI umass-sim0: bus ID: 0 umass-sim0: base transfer speed: 650000KB/sec paqi# camcontrol tur da0 Unit is not ready paqi# fdisk da0 fdisk: can't open device /dev/da0 Jan 15 15:45:33 paqi /kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): . CDB: 8 0 0 0 1 0 Jan 15 15:45:33 paqi /kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Jan 15 15:45:33 paqi /kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Jan 15 15:45:33 paqi /kernel: da0: reading primary partition table: error reading fsbn 0 .. which is what happens on any attempt to read from the drive. I added SCSI debugging to the kernel and can bombard you with voluminous reports while having debug enabled, but it always comes back to the above; for some reason the drive is not being made ready, or not being seen as such. Any clues? Cheers, Ian ======= relevant extracts from dmesg.boot ======= FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #1: Mon Dec 26 00:30:19 EST 2005 root@paqi.nimnet.asn.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/PAQI_2 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (300.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66a Stepping = 10 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 167772160 (163840K bytes) avail memory = 158973952 (155248K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0406000. pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1020-0x102f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x1000-0x101f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ad0: 4108MB [8905/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a ======= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 14:11:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392A016A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay00.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.5.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A092543D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 94678 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 14:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 14:11:45 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:11:42 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: User Gandalf Message-ID: <20060119111142.6dc1140e@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: <43C3A0D1.4000707@messias.qhigh.com> References: <43C03ED4.1070404@messias.qhigh.com> <20060110055157.GC15566@andvari.ath.cx> <20060110102324.sfh5jbzzreskwc8w@imp4.free.fr> <43C0DB6E.4060801@messias.qhigh.com> <20060110093454.GA16603@andvari.ath.cx> <43C3A0D1.4000707@messias.qhigh.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg - how to disable some video modes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:47 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:56:01 +0100 User Gandalf wrote: > Here is the config. I made a mistake. You were right. I forgot to use > DefaultDepth. But I do not understand why I need it, since 24 is the > only depth specified in my screen section, > Maybe it was trying to use another depth (like 16), and because it wasn't present in a "Display" subsection it used all the available modes by default. > Without "DefaultDepth 24" it starts with 1900x1440. With > "DefaultDepth 24" is starts in 1024x768 but it does not allow me to > switch to 1280x1024 with Ctrl-Alt-Plus. > > Thanks, > > Les > You can only use the modes that are listed in "Modes", that's why you can't switch to 1280x1024. You have to add "1280x1024" to the "Modes" line (when not using DefaultDepth 24 it seems all modes are listed there). Then X will start in the higher resolution it can find in "Modes", to solve this you can put in .xinitrc the following command (which will change the resolution after X starts): xrandr -s 1024x768 You can also see the list of available resolutions with that command (without parameters). If you have something like "exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xfce" in .xinitrc be sure to put the "xrandr -s 1024x768" command before it (the "exec" replaces the shell by xfce, so everything after the exec will never be executed). For example (xorg.conf section with 1280x1024 added to Modes): Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" DefaultDepth 24 Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 14:19:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B9116A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F24F43D58 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31676 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 14:19:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2006 14:19:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 85CF028423; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:19:26 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: bsd References: <6F61FBCF-8AC8-4EEF-935F-BEF1EF0E56CF@todoo.biz> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 19 Jan 2006 09:19:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6F61FBCF-8AC8-4EEF-935F-BEF1EF0E56CF@todoo.biz> Message-ID: <44fynkqp01.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Cron script redirection (probably stderr problem ?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:19:29 -0000 bsd writes: > Hello, > > I am using a little cron script to update my server that calls > "portsnap". Once this is done there is another piece of script that > tells me which port(s) is to be updated with a simple call to a > script that mainly execute portversion -l "<" and mail me the output > of the command. > > > There is one little problem with that script : > > Cron mails me (root) each time this output (probably because it comes > from standerr ?) : > > > [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 14011 > > port entries found > > ......... 1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000. ........ 7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........120 > > 00.........13000.........14000 ..... done] > > > The cron script is executed as follow : > > 0 3 * * * /usr/local/sbin/portsnap cron && /usr/local/sbin/portsnap - > I update && /root/src/upgrade.sh > /var/log/upgrade.log > > > I've tried to add a 2>&1 at the end of the script : > > 0 3 * * * /usr/local/sbin/portsnap cron && /usr/local/sbin/portsnap - > I update && /root/src/upgrade.sh > /var/log/upgrade.log 2>&1 > > > But this does not seem to change my problem. That should work, assuming the output comes from the stderr of /root/src/upgrade.sh. I even tested the syntax to make sure I wasn't just confused by my lack of coffee this morning... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 15:32:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A5C16A41F; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:32:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinrolinec@gmail.com) Received: from av1.stonline.sk (av1.stonline.sk [213.81.152.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0445943D45; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinrolinec@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.stonline.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av1.stonline.sk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0JFWJ37005003; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:32:19 +0100 X-Virus-Scanner: This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus system NOD32 for Linux Mail Server. For more information on NOD32 Antivirus System, please, visit our website: http://www.nod32.com/. Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([84.47.5.105]) by smtp1.stonline.sk (STOnline ESMTP Server) with ESMTPA id <0ITC00BWUJ5SFF@smtp1.stonline.sk>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:32:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:20:59 +0100 From: Martin Rolinec Sender: dolilubo@stonline.sk To: questions@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <43CFAE5B.6030505@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: cs, en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) Cc: Subject: information about distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:32:21 -0000 Hello. I would like to make a web page on which I would like to sale Linux distibution to people, who don´t have an opportunity to download it from internet. So I have few questions about a licence: 1. I would like to ask, if I can download the CD images from your distribution (iso-cd-dvd, live iso and so on) and offer them for sale on my web page, thus if I can spread your distibution legaly for a minimal charges? 2. CDs and DVDs I would like to sale with CD printing.../with Buble Jet printer/. So I would like to ask you, if I can use your LOGO and the LOGO of distibution and a color combination of your distribution on the CD printing. PS: Of course with using of your LOGO and the color combination I regard all rights and duties involved in copyright. So, every customer, who will buy your distribution will be notified in writing, that: 1. distribution is dowloaded from web, from your ISO images 2. distribution is burned 3. the price of CD or DVD does not include the technical support in all forms from you . 4. customer will be informed, that your LOGO, color and the name of distribution is subject to your author´s right 5. customer will be informed, that the CD was burned by me, so I will bear all problems coupled with its malfuncion. Thank you for your answers and I hope, that I will be able to spread your distribution without biggest problems. With best regards. Have a nice day. Martin Rolinec Slovakia Europe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 15:52:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130FA16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:52:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B5F43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:52:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from eisenhower.ascendency.net ([67.173.128.145]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2006011915525601500agu9te>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:52:56 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (ipcop.localdomain [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by eisenhower.ascendency.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0JFqqJK059624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:52:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:52:52 -0600 Message-ID: <00a801c61d10$699e6bb0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcYdEGen6YxBickmTAenQOrtkPz6bQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (eisenhower.ascendency.net [192.168.1.22]); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:52:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: Help backing up to networked drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:52:58 -0000 I would like to backup my server to a firewire drive connected to a Macintosh Mini. Both machines are on my local network and, of course, behind a secure firewall. Right now I'm using this script to take backups: #!/bin/sh /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - / | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-root.gz && \ /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /tmp | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-tmp.gz && \ /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /usr | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-usr.gz && \ /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /var | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-var.gz This is working fine, but I have to run the script mannually and enter the password. So my question are these: 1. Is there any other way of doing this so that I would not have to deal with the password issue from ssh? This is all taking place behind a secure firewall on my local network, so ssh is probably not necessary. 2. How can I use samba to mount the Mini's drive? mount_smbfs would only see the home share belonging to the user I was logging in with and not the /Volume directory on the Mac. Sym-links from the users /home to /Volumes didn't work correctly. How can I access the drives in /Volumes via samba? ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:01:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034316A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5797E43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED635DD5; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29077-06; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E9D5C52; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:01:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CFB7D8.7050400@mac.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:01:28 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike@ascendency.net References: <00a801c61d10$699e6bb0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> In-Reply-To: <00a801c61d10$699e6bb0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help backing up to networked drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:01:30 -0000 Mike Loiterman wrote: [ ... ] > This is working fine, but I have to run the script mannually and enter the > password. > > So my question are these: > 1. Is there any other way of doing this so that I would not have to deal > with the password issue from ssh? This is all taking place behind a secure > firewall on my local network, so ssh is probably not necessary. You can use ssh-keygen to generate a RSA or DSA keyapir without a passphrase; copy that to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the other machine, and you can ssh without entering a password. > 2. How can I use samba to mount the Mini's drive? mount_smbfs would only > see the home share belonging to the user I was logging in with and not the > /Volume directory on the Mac. Sym-links from the users /home to /Volumes > didn't work correctly. How can I access the drives in /Volumes via samba? You either have to configure Samba to explicitly list the path under /Volumes as a share, or you have to enable the option to follow symlinks outside the share which contains your symlink.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:05:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60017.mail.yahoo.com (web60017.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81DE943D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 97834 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2006 16:05:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qJUs/FMsNWEkCZh/sn+O7tsTq/uwsKQmNLSu/reM64ismZMWbnK8pdV5wTidHfV82YG5sWfuOR85lVBokAwpWOq8a7Nf40UZIrTR5Ybzc+Lgs6m6Fz1FNQYJWjDUR5EqIht+t73/UEjGuCDBB8HC0dVXBdQJ5fPLBiQwBLjHOCE= ; Message-ID: <20060119160529.97832.qmail@web60017.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.252.85.69] by web60017.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:05:29 EST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:05:29 -0500 (EST) From: Peter To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <43CF5A52.2020100@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:05:34 -0000 --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > Peter wrote: > > --- Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > >> Gable Barber wrote: > >>> On 1/18/06, Peter wrote: > >>>> Switch over to pf. > >>>> > >>> Why do you suggest PF over IPF? > >>> > >>> Hope I am not starting a war here.. but I am genuinely interested in > >> the > >>> opinions. > >> I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some > version > >> that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed > since > >> but I have found no reason to go back. > >> > >> There are two things I miss from IPF: > >> > >> a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful > > >> filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a > state > >> is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not > >> counted. > > > > That's not true. > I need host based counting that distinguish up- and download. > And, I still don't know the easy solution to get the numbers out. > > Of course there is a point in PF, namely that there is just one ruleset > whereas in IPF filtering and accounting rules are separate. Use labels. I admit that accounting in pf can lead to a more messy ruleset. -- Peter __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:17:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C3A16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.77.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43CE43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from eisenhower.ascendency.net ([67.173.128.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2006011916173101200h8e7ve>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:17:31 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (ipcop.localdomain [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by eisenhower.ascendency.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0JGHQ8w059904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:17:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:17:26 -0600 Message-ID: <00a901c61d13$d9251cb0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcYdEGen6YxBickmTAenQOrtkPz6bQAA1Xiw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (eisenhower.ascendency.net [192.168.1.22]); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:17:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: RE: Help backing up to networked drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:17:38 -0000 Mike Loiterman wrote: > I would like to backup my server to a firewire drive > connected to a Macintosh Mini. Both machines are on my local > network and, of course, behind a secure firewall. > > Right now I'm using this script to take backups: > > #!/bin/sh > > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - / | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-root.gz && \ > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /tmp | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-tmp.gz && \ > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /usr | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-usr.gz && \ > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /var | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-var.gz > > This is working fine, but I have to run the script mannually > and enter the password. > > So my question are these: > 1. Is there any other way of doing this so that I would not > have to deal with the password issue from ssh? This is all > taking place behind a secure firewall on my local network, so > ssh is probably not necessary. > > 2. How can I use samba to mount the Mini's drive? > mount_smbfs would only see the home share belonging to the > user I was logging in with and not the /Volume directory on > the Mac. Sym-links from the users /home to /Volumes didn't > work correctly. How can I access the drives in /Volumes via samba? Actually, I take it back. The original script doesn't work. dd gives an error when I try to backup /usr saying that the file is too large...it dies at 4GB. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:19:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ED316A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (rly-ip08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3633E43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from smtp-los03.proxy.aol.com (smtp-los03.proxy.aol.com [195.93.24.41]) by rly-ip08.mx.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k11DPhWV011828; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:25:55 -0500 Received: from avrBSD.radegund (ACC8C8CA.ipt.aol.com [172.200.200.202]) by smtp-los03.proxy.aol.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0JGJFYZ020347; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:19:15 -0500 From: Spiros Papadopoulos To: Jose Jesus Ortega , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:14:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20060119062747.583.qmail@web82009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060119062747.583.qmail@web82009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601191614.53230.spap@avrolymos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: Subject: Fwd: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:19:21 -0000 On Thursday 19 January 2006 06:27, Jose Jesus Ortega wrote: > thanks for the help, I tried edithing the > xorg.conf.new but when I made the changes that says in > the freeBSD website handout it made it worse. My > laptop is compaq and the model is Presario 700 if that > helps. You think changing from kde to another desktop > or window manager will help? or its the X server thats > the problem? Well i found out some things you may want to look: the command vidcontrol(1), syscons(4) and then /usr/defaults/rc.conf has this line (375) in section "system console options" allscreens_flags="" # Set this vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens the modes are listed in vidcontrol and there are other interesting options in this section. Because if i understood well then you have problems with the console and the gui, is this right? Well the console has nothing to do with xorg.conf in this case. This is set before you start the xserver. I tryied allscreens_flags="VGA_90x60" i reboot but didn't work. However I won't be able to see the machine for the next two weeks. Let me know if you make it work. Spiros > --- Spiros Papadopoulos wrote: > > On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:23, Jose Jesus Ortega > > > > wrote: > > > thanks but the Fn+F7 didn't help, nothing happens, > > > > and > > > > > yes I'm using a laptop. Is there another way? > > > > I never had this problem myself. I have a friend > > with an HP laptop that gets > > the command line interface always in the middle of > > the screen. However KDE > > works fine for him so we never got messed with this > > until know.. > > The only difference i can see right now is that he > > gives > > #kdm and not #startx to start KDE and it starts > > normally (whole screen) > > In his case Fn + F7 combination doesn't work with > > the non-graphical interface > > but works with KDE. > > To further help you personaly i will have a look but > > not in less than 10-12 > > hours from now. > > are you editing the xorg.conf file or using > > #xorgconfig (or similar command) > > to make changes? > > > > Anyone else faced with this already? > > > > /* Sorry that i didn't cc before.... */ > > > > Spiros > > > > > --- Spiros Papadopoulos > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > > > > > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jose Jesus > > > > > > > > Ortega > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:20 AM > > > > > To: questions@freebsd.org > > > > > Subject: question > > > > > > > > > > I installed freeBSD 6.0 on my pc and kde but > > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > "startx" > > > > > will only display a small part of the whole > > > > > > > > screen. > > > > > > > > Is your pc a laptop? > > > > For example if this happens on my laptop, I may > > > > be > > > > > > able to alter it with the > > > > combination "Fn+F7". Is there such chance in > > > > your > > > > > > case? > > > > Just in case this helps. > > > > > > > > >I tried > > > > > configuring the X11 but when I add the > > > > "HorizSync" > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > 30-107 and "VertRefresh" at 48-120 the screen > > > > only > > > > > > > diplays colors. How do I make it make kde > > > > appear > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the whole screen? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > > > "freebsd-questions- > > > > > > > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD8516A425 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F62E43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 23162 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2006 16:39:12 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp6.knology.net with SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 16:39:12 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 24000619C; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:39:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:39:11 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Martin Rolinec Message-ID: <20060119163911.GC14075@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <43CFAE5B.6030505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CFAE5B.6030505@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: information about distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:39:14 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 04:20:59PM +0100, Martin Rolinec wrote: > Hello. > > I would like to make a web page on which I would like to sale Linux > distibution to people, who don?t have an opportunity to download it from > internet. The FreeBSD community would be very upset if you sold FreeBSD CD's labeled "Linux." -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:41:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654DD16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:41:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005FC43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682E95C9C; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43772-07; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681C25C77; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:41:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43CFC11D.2070808@mac.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:41:01 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20060118122029.W51993@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43CE837F.2000007@mac.com> <20060119103009.W11397@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20060119103009.W11397@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no one here use restore/dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:41:02 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: [ ... ] >> Did you have a more specific question...? >> > yes - i did before. > > i have problems with restore. dump is about 60GB and 1.5 million files. > > two problems when doing restore -rvf /device > > 1) after extracting all directory listing it starts to do "Make node..." > > but after some of it done, it starts to take 100% CPU and work for about > 1 hour on PII/400 before finishing it. > > eventually it finishes, so it's not such a big problem If you do a SIGINFO (normally control-T), it ought to give more specific information about what it's doing. Are you restoring to an empty new filesystem which has just been newfs'ed with similar inode parameters to the original source of the backup? > 2) after restoring 7 volumes, at 8-th volume it tried to prepend ? to > every pathname extracted so it resulted in error unable to create. > doing ln -s \? . and restarting restore from 8-th volume worked and i > was able to finish things. > > why restore failed? and how to dump without fear! I haven't seen that sort of problem myself. Are you sure the original filesystem is OK and doesn't contain any weird symlinks which could have confused dump? Try to fsck it and test a new dump/restore sequence. Did you use the -L flag to dump using a snapshot, that may help... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 16:51:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8A816A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:51:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9957843D77 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0JGotj3060168; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:50:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43CFC387.4080400@wmptl.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:51:19 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spiros Papadopoulos References: <20060119062747.583.qmail@web82009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200601191614.53230.spap@avrolymos.com> In-Reply-To: <200601191614.53230.spap@avrolymos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: jortega38@sbcglobal.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:51:01 -0000 Spiros Papadopoulos wrote: > On Thursday 19 January 2006 06:27, Jose Jesus Ortega wrote: > >>thanks for the help, I tried edithing the >>xorg.conf.new but when I made the changes that says in >>the freeBSD website handout it made it worse. My >>laptop is compaq and the model is Presario 700 if that >>helps. You think changing from kde to another desktop >>or window manager will help? or its the X server thats >>the problem? > > > Well i found out some things you may want to look: > the command vidcontrol(1), syscons(4) and then > /usr/defaults/rc.conf has this line (375) in section > "system console options" > allscreens_flags="" # Set this vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens > > the modes are listed in vidcontrol and there are other interesting options in > this section. > > Because if i understood well then you have problems with the console and the > gui, is this right? > Well the console has nothing to do with xorg.conf in this case. This is set > before you start the xserver. > > I tryied allscreens_flags="VGA_90x60" i reboot but didn't work. However I > won't be able to see the machine for the next two weeks. > Let me know if you make it work. > > Spiros > > >>--- Spiros Papadopoulos wrote: >> >>>On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:23, Jose Jesus Ortega >>> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>thanks but the Fn+F7 didn't help, nothing happens, >>> >>>and >>> >>> >>>>yes I'm using a laptop. Is there another way? >>> >>>I never had this problem myself. I have a friend >>>with an HP laptop that gets >>>the command line interface always in the middle of >>>the screen. However KDE >>>works fine for him so we never got messed with this >>>until know.. >>>The only difference i can see right now is that he >>>gives >>>#kdm and not #startx to start KDE and it starts >>>normally (whole screen) >>>In his case Fn + F7 combination doesn't work with >>>the non-graphical interface >>>but works with KDE. >>>To further help you personaly i will have a look but >>>not in less than 10-12 >>>hours from now. >>>are you editing the xorg.conf file or using >>>#xorgconfig (or similar command) >>>to make changes? >>> >>>Anyone else faced with this already? >>> >>>/* Sorry that i didn't cc before.... */ >>> >>>Spiros >>> >>> >>>>--- Spiros Papadopoulos >>> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>>Hi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> >>>>>[mailto:owner-freebsd- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jose Jesus >>>>> >>>>>Ortega >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:20 AM >>>>>>To: questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>Subject: question >>>>>> >>>>>>I installed freeBSD 6.0 on my pc and kde but >>>>> >>>>>starting >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"startx" >>>>>>will only display a small part of the whole >>>>> >>>>>screen. >>>>> >>>>>Is your pc a laptop? >>>>>For example if this happens on my laptop, I may >>> >>>be >>> >>> >>>>>able to alter it with the >>>>>combination "Fn+F7". Is there such chance in >>> >>>your >>> >>> >>>>>case? >>>>>Just in case this helps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I tried >>>>>>configuring the X11 but when I add the >>> >>>"HorizSync" >>> >>> >>>>>at >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>30-107 and "VertRefresh" at 48-120 the screen >>> >>>only >>> >>> >>>>>>diplays colors. How do I make it make kde >>> >>>appear >>> >>> >>>>>with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>the whole screen? >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> >>>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> >>>>>"freebsd-questions- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Had a Pressario 730CA myself, and the machine's video goes bazerk switching back from GUI/graphics to console - same problem under netbsd and openbsd too... Upgraded a year ago to an AMD64-based Compaq Pressario 3000-series, same problem still ... turned out to be the video driver. I 'upgraded' to the nvidia driver and things are WAY better now, can switch consoles, smoother 3d performance too. Not recall the video chipset in the 700 series though, but if I recall they were nvidia too no? Anyhow - just thought I'd drop my two cents, took me a million support/frustrated emails to various lists before I got it figured out too, hope this might help. -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 17:20:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA3516A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpech@mail.ru) Received: from f47.mail.ru (f47.mail.ru [194.67.57.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8420943D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpech@mail.ru) Received: from mail by f47.mail.ru with local id 1EzdSy-000AYL-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:20:56 +0300 Received: from [80.233.138.12] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:20:56 +0200 From: Mike Pechkin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.10.107, 10.1.6.130 via proxy [80.233.138.12] Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:20:56 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: FreeBSD6, INET6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mike Pechkin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:20:59 -0000 hi, 1. installed FreeBSD 6.0 2. did cvsup RELENG_6_0 3. kernel config containts 'INET6' option 4. files 'hosts' and 'resolv.conf' are OK 5. sendmail can't send mail because of Windows DNS server's replies: 18:07:54.804053 IP 192.168.10.33.55378 > 192.168.10.2.53: 38300+ AAAA? temp-bsd.mbint.ddd.ru. (47) 18:07:54.804426 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.55378: 38300* 0/1/0 (96) 18:07:54.804602 IP 192.168.10.33.49171 > 192.168.10.2.53: 38301+[|domain] 18:07:54.804785 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.49171: 38301 NXDomain*[|domain] 18:07:54.813891 IP 192.168.10.33.60941 > 192.168.10.2.53: 38302+ AAAA? ddd.ru. (32) 18:07:54.814053 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.60941: 38302* 0/1/0 (87) 18:07:54.814169 IP 192.168.10.33.60929 > 192.168.10.2.53: 38303+ A? ddd.ru. (32) 18:07:54.814311 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.60929: 38303* 1/0/0 A 10.10.1.21 (48) 18:07:54.824778 IP 192.168.10.33.53488 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39349+ AAAA? temp-bsd.mbint.ddd.ru. (47) 18:07:54.824944 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.53488: 39349* 0/1/0 (96) 18:07:54.825046 IP 192.168.10.33.54497 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39350+ A? temp-bsd.mbint.ddd.ru. (47) 18:07:54.825194 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.54497: 39350* 1/0/0 (63) 18:07:54.827428 IP 192.168.10.33.56929 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39351+ AAAA? ddd.ru. (32) 18:07:54.827585 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.56929: 39351* 0/1/0 (87) 18:07:54.827675 IP 192.168.10.33.53689 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39352+ A? ddd.ru. (32) 18:07:54.827814 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.53689: 39352* 1/0/0 A 10.10.1.21 (48) 18:07:54.936453 IP 192.168.10.33.57793 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39353+ MX? ddd.ru. (32) 18:07:54.936666 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.57793: 39353* 1/0/1 MX[|domain] 18:07:54.937242 IP 192.168.10.33.60244 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39354+ AAAA? dove.mbint.ddd.ru. (43) 18:07:54.937411 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.60244: 39354* 0/1/0 (92) 18:07:54.937677 IP 192.168.10.33.57139 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39355+ AAAA? dove.mbint.ddd.ru. (43) 18:07:54.937843 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.57139: 39355* 0/1/0 (92) 18:07:54.937946 IP 192.168.10.33.50315 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39356+ AAAA? dove. (22) 18:07:54.938085 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.50315: 39356 ServFail 0/0/0 (22) 18:07:54.938158 IP 192.168.10.33.63138 > 10.2.2.11.53: 39356+ AAAA? dove. (22) 18:07:54.938584 IP 10.2.2.11.53 > 192.168.10.33.63138: 39356 ServFail 0/0/0 (22) 18:07:54.938813 IP 192.168.10.33.50821 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39357+ AAAA? dove.mbint.ddd.ru. (43) 18:07:54.938978 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.50821: 39357* 0/1/0 (92) 18:07:54.939186 IP 192.168.10.33.63402 > 192.168.10.2.53: 39358+ AAAA? dove. (22) 18:07:54.939324 IP 192.168.10.2.53 > 192.168.10.33.63402: 39358 ServFail 0/0/0 (22) 18:07:54.939411 IP 192.168.10.33.64564 > 10.2.2.11.53: 39358+ AAAA? dove. (22) 18:07:54.939738 IP 10.2.2.11.53 > 192.168.10.33.64564: 39358 ServFail 0/0/0 (22) 6. if remove 'INET6' option from the kernel everything is OK! mails works fine. 7. "WorkAroundBrokenAAAA" option in my.mc doesn't help p.s. Old FreeBSD (5.3, 5.2.1) servers works OK w/ this Windows DNS servers and has INET6 option!!! --mpech From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 17:57:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D8D16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (fed1rmmtao03.cox.net [68.230.241.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D92443D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.5.182.86]) by fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060119175611.CBDG20875.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@workdog>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:56:11 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:55:46 -0800 Organization: Bristol Systems Inc. Message-ID: <01bd01c61d21$9651d730$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <00a901c61d13$d9251cb0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Help backing up to networked drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:22 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Mike Loiterman > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:17 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Help backing up to networked drive > > > Mike Loiterman wrote: > > I would like to backup my server to a firewire drive > > connected to a Macintosh Mini. Both machines are on my local > > network and, of course, behind a secure firewall. > > > > Right now I'm using this script to take backups: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - / | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-root.gz && \ > > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /tmp | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-tmp.gz && \ > > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /usr | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-usr.gz && \ > > /sbin/dump -0uanL -f - /var | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish > > mike@192.168.1.11 dd of=/Volumes/Server-Backup/dump-var.gz > > > > This is working fine, but I have to run the script mannually > > and enter the password. > > > Actually, I take it back. The original script doesn't work. > > dd gives an error when I try to backup /usr saying that the > file is too > large...it dies at 4GB. > Not knowing anything about the mac mini, I can only guess: Have you tried using a partition name for dd of= instead of a file name? -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 17:57:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3B716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEABD43D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 25809 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 17:57:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.173.203]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2006 17:57:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:57:46 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Message-ID: <20060119185746.53fb0381@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200601191400.k0JE048k010453@mark.apostu.com> References: <20060119132903.657f1278@localhost> <200601191400.k0JE048k010453@mark.apostu.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_9pojjKHsE1MAEH6hs3jtTIz; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:57:49 -0000 --Sig_9pojjKHsE1MAEH6hs3jtTIz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please don't top post and don't forget to CC freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. "Vitalie Apostu" wrote: > It will work if I do ifconfig up or restart. Why do not do > automatically? >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabian Keil [mailto:freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de]=20 > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:29 AM > To: vitalie@apostu.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: NIC >=20 > "Vitalie Apostu" wrote: >=20 > > When I unplug UTP cable from NIC card and plug it back the system=20 > > cannot ping any host in network. > > Does anybody know how to fix it? >=20 > Did you try ifconfig $nic_device up? I guess it would violate POLA, I for one wouldn't expect the NIC to get up by itself. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_9pojjKHsE1MAEH6hs3jtTIz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDz9MajV8GA4rMKUQRAvh+AJ9d+g8hX2plZMqahHclSNEHQ9dX0wCfQ3k5 v3gVwy64mqs7nZIjTHyiw5Q= =rQnL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_9pojjKHsE1MAEH6hs3jtTIz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 18:21:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304FB16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:21:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (wintermute.cepheid.org [64.92.165.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E221A43D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 62843170B4; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:21:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:21:11 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: User Gandalf Message-ID: <20060119182111.GA79178@idoru.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , User Gandalf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> <200601181824.27154.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <43CE77CB.2020100@messias.qhigh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CE77CB.2020100@messias.qhigh.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Share desktop with XOrg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:21:12 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:15:55PM +0100, User Gandalf wrote: > Kilian Hagemann wrote: > > >On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:08, User Gandalf pondered: > > > > > >>Is it possible to share a desktop under the XOrg server? Is there a port > >>for this? I'm aware of the -display option of X based programs. What I > >>need is not a remote desktop connection. I would like to share my > >>desktop to another user so he can see what I see. > >> > >> > > > >Yes, the stock Xorg server doesn't though. You could use VNC, but in my > >experience that just opens up another X display where you login separately > >using kdm/gdm/xdm or whatever. > > > >I suggest you use KDE's desktop sharing (krfb, in the menu under "System", > >part of the "kdenetwork" package, tested on 3.4.1). Does what you want. > > > > > I hoped there is a more native solution. I prefer gtk over kde but what > can I do? > Thanks, The x11vnc port may do what you want. Give that a look. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 18:38:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3235A16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:38:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FB243D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([82.41.34.87]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:39:47 +0000 Message-ID: <43CFDCB3.9000105@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:38:43 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060119132903.657f1278@localhost> <200601191400.k0JE048k010453@mark.apostu.com> <20060119185746.53fb0381@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060119185746.53fb0381@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2006 18:39:47.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9389120:01C61D27] Cc: vapostu@compunetworld.com Subject: Re: NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:38:50 -0000 Fabian Keil wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Fabian Keil [mailto:freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de] >>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:29 AM >>To: vitalie@apostu.com >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: NIC >> >>"Vitalie Apostu" wrote: >> >> >> >>>When I unplug UTP cable from NIC card and plug it back the system >>>cannot ping any host in network. >>>Does anybody know how to fix it? >>> >>> >>Did you try ifconfig $nic_device up? >> >> > >I guess it would violate POLA, I for one wouldn't expect the >NIC to get up by itself. > > If cable is pulled and plugged back in when the machine is already up, I would be astonished if it didn't just come back. In fact, I just tried it to be sure, and everything "just worked". Vitalie, perhaps some info about the kind of NIC you have might help. Also can you show ifconfig 1) before you pull the cable 2) after you pull the cable 3) after you plug the cable back in At least then we could compare what happens for you with what happens for me. For reference, I see: Before: sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:11:d8:94:74:49 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active Pulled: sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:11:d8:94:74:49 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier Back in: sk0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:11:d8:94:74:49 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 18:43:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CCB16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:43:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA8043D5F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:43:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from eisenhower.ascendency.net ([67.173.128.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2006011918430301100dcp9fe>; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:43:03 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (ipcop.localdomain [192.168.1.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by eisenhower.ascendency.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0JIgxkn061062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:43:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:42:59 -0600 Message-ID: <00bc01c61d28$2dc6f9f0$0401a8c0@Mike8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcYdFHLYe7QNnQs8Tv6QXv8vmGdpIAAEnRjw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: <43CFB7D8.7050400@mac.com> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (eisenhower.ascendency.net [192.168.1.22]); Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:43:02 -0600 (CST) Cc: Subject: RE: Help backing up to networked drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:43:08 -0000 For those that are interested this is how got things to work: On the Mac Mini I edited /etc/smb.conf and put in this: [backup] path = /Volumes/Server-Backup writeable = yes Then I restarted Windows File Sharing by going to System Preferences->Sharing and then turning off Windows File Sharing and then turning it back on. Then, on my server, I mounted the Mini's drive with this command: /usr/sbin/mount_smbfs //mike@mini/backup /mnt/backup Now I'm using this script to do a level 0 dump: /sbin/dump 0aufL - / | bzip2 >/mnt/backup/root-dump-l0.bz2 /sbin/dump 0aufL - /tmp | bzip2 >/mnt/backup/tmp-dump-l0.bz2 /sbin/dump 0aufL - /usr | bzip2 >/mnt/backup/usr-dump-l0.bz2 /sbin/dump 0aufL - /var | bzip2 >/mnt/backup/var-dump-l0.bz2 Once I see that this is working well, I'll probably set up folders for a weekly level 0 and dailys level 9's. Thanks to Chuck for the hint on adding the drive in the Mini's smb.conf file. ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 19:35:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5AD16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:35:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magalhj@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 133D743D5C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magalhj@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 64755 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jan 2006 19:35:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iLsqMuoXubi3d3h8IX8FEeZ8eYtMSABcsj3sbfl6QcUrbfjJfnPMqEhxHccsDsIyPekQPmqJv0S6Ewfcu4Fseo9iFGaJGHaIODxYLG3ODGcbIPW+z3M0TVV2TM33WRVEZLarA3Bq1fmdGjJyCjx09B7Zk+xcjxx+4vdz+PGd/4k= ; Message-ID: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.216.238.36] by web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:35:25 ART Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:35:25 -0300 (ART) From: Aguiar Magalhaes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: NTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:35:34 -0000 Hi list, When I type "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov" (or another server) the answer is "no server suitable for synchronization found"... 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Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 19:46:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E1716A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from sanddollar.geekisp.com (sanddollar.geekisp.com [204.89.131.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8067E43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: (qmail 18419 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Jan 2006 19:46:23 -0000 Received: from clam.int.geekisp.com (HELO clam.geekisp.com) (192.168.4.38) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 19:46:23 -0000 Received: from clam.geekisp.com (njt@localhost.geekisp.com [127.0.0.1]) by clam.geekisp.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0JJkMZi017934; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from njt@localhost) by clam.geekisp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k0JJkLYV032536; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:46:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: clam.geekisp.com: njt set sender to njt@ayvali.org using -f Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:46:21 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Aguiar Magalhaes Message-ID: <20060119194621.GA27612@ayvali.org> References: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N.J. Thomas" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:46:25 -0000 * Aguiar Magalhaes [2006-01-19 16:35:25 -0300]: > When I type "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov" (or another server) the answer is > "no server suitable for synchronization found"... Works fine over here. Can you connect to the NTP port on that server? Try this: nc -u -v ntp.nasa.gov 123 and see if you get a connection succeeded message. Also, have you thought about using pool.ntp.org instead? Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 19:47:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7800E16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:47:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net (post-25.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0962C43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10026 helo=assata.aseed.net) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ezfka-000BSI-JO; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:47:16 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by assata.aseed.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660922A06F2; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:50:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.180] (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B2758C7E0; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:48:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CFECAE.2070906@scii.nl> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:46:54 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aguiar Magalhaes , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: NTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:47:18 -0000 Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: > When I type "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov" (or another server) > the answer is "no server suitable for synchronization > found"... perhaps there's a problem with your internet-connection somehow or your DNS-settings or firewall- or proxy-settings ? (ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov works fine here) trying ntpdate with the -d parameter is also an idea -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 20:31:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A95116A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from c_mont59@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay23-f13.bay23.hotmail.com [64.4.22.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1865A43D4C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from c_mont59@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:31:19 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 67.52.46.125 by by23fd.bay23.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:31:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.52.46.125] X-Originating-Email: [c_mont59@hotmail.com] X-Sender: c_mont59@hotmail.com From: "C M" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:31:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2006 20:31:19.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E140720:01C61D37] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:43:26 +0000 Subject: bootloader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:31:20 -0000 All, I have a Dell c640 laptop. I would rather not run X, however the only sreensize that I can get for the console is 640x800. Does anyone know of a driver I can call in the Kernel to get a bigger console? _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 20:50:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E1116A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:50:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514D843D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so50919uge for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:49:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kJmFdegeKk16lpjBQor5j5cecQ20BTqNL8poFlGABcIiG4EOiMFl6PTreNaEIcFspSpXXifb2KuQd9bnzvuvUR7JOQOasGjxfGmqJaA3PsHF4Ku5awhzNOCNYCjv5szeOjW9kKMJnYXZkfG5v7Fn/vvQ6robIaY/mvmI8XVxDeM= Received: by 10.48.225.3 with SMTP id x3mr75409nfg; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.9.1 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:46:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:46:52 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060119193525.64752.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: NTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:50:01 -0000 On 1/19/06, Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: > Hi list, > > When I type "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov" (or another server) > the answer is "no server suitable for synchronization > found"... # ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov 19 Jan 20:45:32 ntpdate[17119]: adjust time server 198.123.30.132 offset 0.000333 sec Can you ping that server or any other ntp server? 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Say NO to Trusted Computing! www.no1984.org www.againsttcpa.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 21:05:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4B16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:05:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C241243D46 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0JL51gl028915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:05:01 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.4.96] (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.5+UW05.10/8.13.5+UW05.09) with ESMTP id k0JL4xRb020753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:05:01 -0800 Message-ID: <43CFFEFB.7030604@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:04:59 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.1.1vy+fc4a (X11/20050728) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CE67E9.8000008@messias.qhigh.com> <200601181824.27154.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <43CE77CB.2020100@messias.qhigh.com> <20060119182111.GA79178@idoru.cepheid.org> In-Reply-To: <20060119182111.GA79178@idoru.cepheid.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_6 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Share desktop with XOrg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:05:03 -0000 Erik Osterholm wrote: >On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:15:55PM +0100, User Gandalf wrote: > > >>Kilian Hagemann wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:08, User Gandalf pondered: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Is it possible to share a desktop under the XOrg server? Is there a port >>>>for this? I'm aware of the -display option of X based programs. What I >>>>need is not a remote desktop connection. I would like to share my >>>>desktop to another user so he can see what I see. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Yes, the stock Xorg server doesn't though. You could use VNC, but in my >>>experience that just opens up another X display where you login separately >>>using kdm/gdm/xdm or whatever. >>> >>>I suggest you use KDE's desktop sharing (krfb, in the menu under "System", >>>part of the "kdenetwork" package, tested on 3.4.1). Does what you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I hoped there is a more native solution. I prefer gtk over kde but what >>can I do? >>Thanks, >> >> > >The x11vnc port may do what you want. Give that a look. > >Erik > > It is a wonderful port. It provides access to your display that you specify (if you are the "owner" of the display), and emulates it via VNC. It will take up less memory than straight VNC since it uses the existing X server (if it is running), and attaches to it and allows VNC connections to that specific instance of the X server. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 21:10:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF92D16A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D1F43D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0JL909h077191; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:09:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43CFFFE1.3050109@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:08:49 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C M References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootloader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:10:10 -0000 C M wrote: > All, > > I have a Dell c640 laptop. I would rather not run X, however > the only sreensize that I can get for the console is 640x800. vidcontrol(1) might be work a look. Kevin Kinsey PS > Please note that the sig was auto-generated by fortune(6) ... nothin' personal..... :-D -- Ah say, son, you're about as sharp as a bowlin' ball. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 22:27:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4894216A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:27:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A143D48 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IweY3sjxOqPvJ0AzI7yYAzi/UzNEez9B99HSRu4mze8B8VDpacIxhnSoceRZNcJl; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.161.209] (helo=kittycat) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EziFj-00028f-P4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:27:36 -0500 Message-ID: <006001c61d47$973bccc0$1225a8c0@kittycat> From: "jdow" To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:27:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120bdd8d6e63f466831208320e3a48b7dc1df4dea5d24d49372350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.161.209 Subject: Re: How to tell if IPF is running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:27:37 -0000 From: "Erik Norgaard" Nce writeup. I do have one question at the bottom. > I used IPF on FBSD until there was some bug in IPF for 5.x some version > that forced me to switch after an upgrade. The bug has been fixed since > but I have found no reason to go back. > > There are two things I miss from IPF: > > a) proper accounting: You can't count traffic correctly with stateful > filtering on pf, pf will count when a rule is matched but once a state > is established packets for that state are not matched and hence not counted. > > b) an active and inactive ruleset: To load a new ruleset you'll have to > flush everything. You can check syntax of rules before loading and pf > loads all or nothing, so if there is a syntax error in your ruleset it > won't be loaded. BUT: You may make syntactically correct changes that > yet contain errors: Just say you wrote: > > block in all from 10.0.0.0/2 > > but meant > > block in all from 10.0.0.0/24 > > In IPF I always used: > > # ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s > > to give me 60 seconds to verify that I didn't lock myself out. > > Now, that is compensated by in PF you can flush and reload the rules > only, keeping existing states, so the connection you use for maintenance > is not torn down. > > The pros for PF are some features to prevent DDoS against servers behind > your firewall, and advanced queuing features and CARP. The use of macros > and tables makes it easier to maintain rules, but the lack of groups > means you have to be more careful structuring your ruleset: > > Rules are read top down _always_ in IPF I really liked groups, even > though I always kept rules together. It just made it more explicit that > rules went the same place. PF uses some clever skip ahead to gain the > speed that proper use of groups give in IPF, and tests have shown that > pf is faster than IPF in particular when rulesets grow large. > > but you need to be careful writing rules: > > IPF sample: > > block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any head 10 > pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 group 10 > > PF sample: > > block in from 10.0.0.0/24 to any > pass in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to 192.168.0.0/24 > block in quick from 10.0.0.0/24 to any > > The thing is that in the first line of the IPF sample, a default action > is made for that group. packets matching the head rule but no rules in > the group will take that action. > > In PF you'll have to include that extra rule in the end to get the same > behavior. > > So, in short, ipf is really simple and comparatively easy to work with, > the lack of macros means you generally have to write more but this also > makes it more explicit what happens as packets traverse the ruleset. > > pf has some really nice features in particular in more complex setups. > The use of macros means that you can create compact rulesets that can > easily be adopted to other systems or setups. > > Use what you feel most comfortable with. OK, I am coming from a Linux iptables world. I have a nicely working firewall in that realm including the following nice little tidbit that allows me to be anywhere in the world and ssh into the machine while making ssh dictionary attacks really "expensive". ===8<--- $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --syn --dport 22 -m recent --name sshattack --set $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 --syn -m recent --name sshattack \ --rcheck --seconds 120 --hitcount 3 -j LOG --log-prefix 'SSH REJECT: ' $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 --syn -m recent --name sshattack \ --rcheck --seconds 120 --hitcount 3 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset ===8<--- The trap allows up to three tries within a 120 second period before blocking the IP address responsible until the tries within the last 120 seconds is below 3. I've found that attacks will start. Then they will simply spend an hour or two generating log entries for the rejects. (I then add the net block for the source to another rule that blocks it entirely for ssh.) I have similar blocks on pop3s and imaps. Which tool would be able to do this sort of thing best and how might it have been done. {^_^} Joanne, getting tired of the Linux perpetual beta test. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 22:31:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0111616A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:31:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derrick.francis@x-feds.com) Received: from smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F2B043D6E for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:31:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derrick.francis@x-feds.com) Received: (qmail 64765 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2006 22:28:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (derrick.francis@x-feds.com@66.63.143.247 with plain) by smtp102.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2006 22:28:14 -0000 Message-ID: <43A733F9.60306@x-feds.com> From: Derrick Francis Organization: X-Feds, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: derrick.francis@x-feds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:31:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:28:09 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:31:51 -0000 Have a simple question. If someone to request support for version 4.10 or 4.9 how would they be supported? Please let me know. I need to verify this version of FreeBSD is still supported. Thank you. -- Derrick Francis IT/Security Consultant X-Feds, Inc. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 23:18:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7652A16A420 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:18:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3642743D45 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:18:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2301A3C24; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AB8154A44; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:18:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:18:25 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Derrick Francis Message-ID: <20060119231825.GA98806@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43A733F9.60306@x-feds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A733F9.60306@x-feds.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:18:28 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800, Derrick Francis wrote: > Have a simple question. If someone to request support for version 4.10= =20 > or 4.9 how would they be supported? Please let me know. I need to=20 > verify this version of FreeBSD is still supported. Thank you. Generally speaking these old versions are not supported at all. They might still be receiving security support (see http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you e.g. try to report a bug then you'll mostly get people telling you to upgrade to a supported version first (since after all there's a good chance the bug is already fixed). At this point you really need to plan to upgrade to the 6.0 series, since that's where the future lies. Kris --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0B5AWry0BWjoQKURAlxsAKDUBH9tNfwta/VE7XVikLMhElcyIACfft0n MXVOX8lHqET6hBrrwzFN6EA= =Vjp+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 19 23:20:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B5516A41F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from ss.eunet.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55DC43D5A for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from localhost.i.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by ss.eunet.cz (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0JNKBne017979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:20:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) From: Michal Mertl To: ivan.roth@free.fr In-Reply-To: <20060119005838.que0d9m7y84cs4sg@imp4.free.fr> References: <20060119005838.que0d9m7y84cs4sg@imp4.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:20:09 +0100 Message-Id: <1137712809.1200.42.camel@genius.i.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: again canon printer trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:20:17 -0000 ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > Michal Mertl wrote: > > ivan.roth@free.fr wrote: > > > >>Ok, two short questions. > >> > >>-Is someone able to translate this for me (seems to be Czech)? > >> http://www.abclinuxu.cz/hardware/show/65412;jsessionid=10vmgmw8u8l16 > >> > >>-May my problem be due to acpi in any way? I don't know acpi either. But may > try > >>something like debug.acpi.disabled="isa" in /boot/device.hints. Good or bad > idea > >>? > > > > > > Hello. I am Czech. The page talks about using the printer under Linux. > > Canon provides drivers for it. I don't know if they can be used because > > I don't know the CUPS much. If the driver/filter program is (can be) > > invoked manually, you could probably use it with FreeBSD native CUPS. If > > not you can possibly run Linux CUPS and print to it even from FreeBSD > > native applications. If the program directly communicates with the > > printer you may be out of luck because you don't run Linux kernel and > > the emulation may not be complete in these low-level areas. > > > > I didn't see your original post but printing issue can not be caused by > > ACPI unless the interface for printing doesn't work at all. If for > > example you use USB connection to the printer and something else USB > > works, than ACPI can't be at fault. > > > > HTH > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > Hi Michal, > > Definetely this ML should be read at least by czech people. Others are welcome > for sure. Thanks a million for your translation and re-explanation. > > I am going to test in that way tomorrow. Of course, I still do not understand > why I cannot print directly with > /dev/lpt0. I have never tried this but I believe it should work. You have to know how to talk to your printer, usualy using some language like Postscript or PCL or some vendor special language for modern ink printers. > About acpi, I told that because I have ppc0: > port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 in dmesg and all the examples I saw had isa > instead of acpi. Any idea? Is it normal? I think that the old reports were from older FreeBSD version which didn't have ACPI or from old machines which didn't have lpt in ACPI. Nowadays "on acpi0" is pretty common. > Thanks again Michal. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 00:02:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB2E16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derrick.francis@x-feds.com) Received: from smtp101.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp101.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13B5D43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derrick.francis@x-feds.com) Received: (qmail 48380 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 00:02:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (derrick.francis@x-feds.com@66.63.143.247 with plain) by smtp101.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 00:02:05 -0000 Message-ID: <43A749F8.9010108@x-feds.com> From: Derrick Francis Organization: X-Feds, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <43A733F9.60306@x-feds.com> <20060119231825.GA98806@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060119231825.GA98806@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: derrick.francis@x-feds.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:02:00 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:02:06 -0000 Kris, Thank you for the quick response. That is exactly what I was looking for. Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800, Derrick Francis wrote: > >> Have a simple question. If someone to request support for version 4.10 >> or 4.9 how would they be supported? Please let me know. I need to >> verify this version of FreeBSD is still supported. Thank you. >> > > Generally speaking these old versions are not supported at all. They > might still be receiving security support (see > http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you e.g. try to report a bug > then you'll mostly get people telling you to upgrade to a supported > version first (since after all there's a good chance the bug is > already fixed). > > At this point you really need to plan to upgrade to the 6.0 series, > since that's where the future lies. > > Kris > -- Derrick Francis IT/Security Consultant X-Feds, Inc. (O) 619.222.4600 (C) 760.613.8892 (E) derrick.francis@x-feds.com Important Notice: The contents of this email are intended solely for the named addressee and may contain proprietary data or information; any unauthorized use of the contents is expressly prohibited. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 02:45:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E0B16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7799543D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id CB584608B; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:45:47 -0900 (AKST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from [192.168.241.108] (237-206-237-24.gci.net [24.237.206.237]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14DE5CA5 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:45:46 -0900 (AKST) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:41:41 -0900 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4308838.mK5vxZycqP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> Subject: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:45:49 -0000 --nextPart4308838.mK5vxZycqP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on a remote server. I'= ve=20 always used passwords in the past. I generated a key pair and exported my=20 public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed=20 sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the remote machine= =20 still asks for a password. What do I change to just use the key to log in?= =20 Thanks, Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@gmail.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://akparadise.byethost33.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart4308838.mK5vxZycqP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBD0E32Vq19LUoGB+MRAoS0AJ4qByVyjD01jOX56qp/PqBNRLMorgCfVg5V dvsW3aAhcxMHyG1rnGRLysY= =uHFM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4308838.mK5vxZycqP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 02:58:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BD616A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list.cdeal@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0234B43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:58:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list.cdeal@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so375406wra for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:58:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fEBmXPhZlp/TaTc/dtdPpQZrbIn8SOaFFPuzYoiXBgzbqDuiJL/ARzV5P9lGl4z2gnKK2XHTYweApRzV92GVYGc66FVcLQr8jss1qzukHQGFeVoVbKUzntisrOU5vm/hkx+NzX3ctsTxix9e2Dpr78Hi3yhAuwXzJhCyHcStEG8= Received: by 10.54.93.20 with SMTP id q20mr1775157wrb; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.83.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:58:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:58:43 -0600 From: Craig Deal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:58:45 -0000 I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from the ports collection. The "MOVED" file said "sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to distribute". Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is this temporary? Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user. Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it. Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:05:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5A816A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: from web60018.mail.yahoo.com (web60018.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40E2D43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petermatulis@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 92945 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 03:05:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZKdz5qPKXm/qcYQ0mMTRpY3jQQCeTu1yufsTO/J7qSrzxA+SFnuzPB+P/KGxkKpff87k/LABU2d6sddvNraZk6zWjjvIcvbUxURe60UUsldXC5ztbNgwO+59YFXiqlwVbX0mrt3+pDTLpjf7WL0sf8mpco4wDXOMEFRYFWDmAQk= ; Message-ID: <20060120030543.92943.qmail@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.252.85.69] by web60018.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:05:43 EST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:05:43 -0500 (EST) From: Peter To: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:05:44 -0000 --- Beech Rintoul wrote: > I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on a remote server. > I've > always used passwords in the past. I generated a key pair and exported > my > public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed > sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the remote > machine > still asks for a password. What do I change to just use the key to log > in? I'm assuming you do not want to enter anything to log in right? If so, you need a private key with a blank passphrase. It's hard to say from here but it may be that you are being prompted for the passphrase to unlock your private key. -- Peter __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:12:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A7416A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list.cdeal@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A43B43D49 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list.cdeal@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so377263wra for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:12:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=prSk/J6QS/zzxzn3NzVHe5rDfgIFU1aJYaPgimHyVCwOf8AdTWVdHYMKU3zQ3Ys5FFq3kGCI8qGCPMbn28SzhVCdjdv8hbfB2zkMTsaEwFz4h8Q3dj0okoYZ+Ard3kaP75j3s+n4eR4Vf2aai0vimUovdzxCZwOASs7kcSwAg2I= Received: by 10.54.117.20 with SMTP id p20mr1733668wrc; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.83.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:12:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:12:14 -0600 From: Craig Deal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060120030213.GB5286@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060120030213.GB5286@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:15 -0000 On 1/19/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Try portupgrade. It's what most people use. > > Kris > Thanks, I'll give it a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:37:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8668F16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:37:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1598D43D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so250792wxc for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:37:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=B7EgMlcbPm9vVpilbW3nB0t3KhEnVvEIP8PLgzADZ38lIs0VZuPryf4n/ArSQCg99OXRQPIiHRIgU2umMGOHkof/A3oRkXveP7c8tKU10ugigQCcI04Y14zBw/jzb07oryjsRYP+E/NQPJsKJ8GBO5pVFYFl9friPxVUzmbe4l0= Received: by 10.70.11.14 with SMTP id 14mr1619665wxk; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:37:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:37:24 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1022334424.20060119001352@hotbox.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1022334424.20060119001352@hotbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: vidcontrol does not give mode more 800x600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:37:25 -0000 T24gMS8xOC8wNiwg4c7E0sXKIDxkYXJrMjAwM0Bob3Rib3gucnU+IHdyb3RlOgo+Cj4gd2hlbiBz dGFydCBvbiB2bXdhcmUgYHZpZGNvbnRyb2wgLWkgbW9kZWAgbGlzdCBtb2RlIGJlZm9yZSAxOTIw eDE0NDAKPiB3aGVuIHN0YXJ0IG9uIHJlYWwgaGFyZHdhcmUgYHZpZGNvbnRyb2wgLWkgbW9kZWAg bGlzdCBtb2RlIG9ubHkgYmVmb3JlCj4gODAweDYwMAo+Cj4gdHJpZWQgdG8gYWRkICdvcHRpb25z IFZHQV9XSURUSDkwJyBpbiBrZXJuZWwKPiB0cmllZCB0byBpbnN0YWxsIGRyaXZlciBudmlkaWEK PiBpbiBpbnRlcm5ldCBvbiB0aGlzIHN1YmplY3Qgbm90aGluZyBoYXZlIG5vdCBmb3VuZAo+Cj4g ZXZlbiBjb25uZWN0ZWQgb3RoZXIgbW9uaXRvciA6KQo+CgpUaG91Z2ggdGhleSBtYXkgYmUgbGlz dGVkLCBtb2RlcyBoaWdoZXIgdGhhbiA4MDB4NjAwCmRvbid0IGFwcGVhciB0byBmdW5jdGlvbi4K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:49:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4199316A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:49:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cholland@redmoonbroadband.com) Received: from exchange.redmoonbroadband.com (exchange.redmoonbroadband.com [206.123.80.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBF943D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:49:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cholland@redmoonbroadband.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:49:50 -0600 Message-ID: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F8316489986554EB5@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Autoconf Issues Thread-Index: AcYddJB8iJEv0bWsRhCebt103FTqlA== From: "Cody Holland" To: Subject: Autoconf Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:49:53 -0000 Running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and trying to install Apache 2.0.x and getting: autoconf: not found buildconf: autoconf not found. You need autoconf version 2.13 or newer installed to build Apache from CVS. ./buildconf failed for apr *** Error code 1 I have autoconf-2.13.000227_5 installed and automake-1.4.6_2. I've removed and reinstalled autoconf several times and also tried autoconf-259. I've installed Apache many times and have never ran into an issue like this. Any ideas? Thanks, Cody From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:50:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C65E16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:50:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD643D53 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@abbott.allenmyland.com) Received: from abbott.allenmyland.com ([68.81.206.140]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2006012003505601400dkbaue>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:50:56 +0000 Received: by abbott.allenmyland.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48E1217024; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:50:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:50:56 -0500 From: Ken Stevenson To: Micah Message-ID: <20060120035056.GA92207@abbott.allenmyland.com> Mail-Followup-To: Micah , Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43CD09E9.9040701@ywave.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: konsole font size and colour ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:50:59 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:14:49AM -0800, Micah wrote: > Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > >hi all, > >how can i resize konsole' font size and change its colour to green ? > >the default size is so huge, and only a few lines can be seen on the > >screen. > >help please, > >thanks in advance, > >regards, > >bye. > >[for debian i can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but dont know what to do for > >freebsd.] > > Not sure what your asking because Konsole (a KDE terminal emulator) and > GRUB (a boot loader) have little in common. > > For Konsole, everything you need to change the size is under the > "Settings" menu, specifically "font" and "size." To get it to stick, use > "save as default". Preset colors schemes can be set via "schema" and can > be customized via "configure konsole" > > I've never run into a GRUB option that allows you to change it's size. > You'll still edit menu.lst, but it's located wherever you installed GRUB. > > HTH, > Micah I haven't done this for a while, but here's what I have on my system: In your kernel configuration: options VESA In rc.conf : font8x8="/usr/share/syscons/fonts/iso02-8x8.fnt allscreens_flags="132x43" -- Ken Stevenson Allen-Myland Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 03:54:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B381B16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0420743D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so252902wxc for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:54:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fgTMBo/lxgJ05mfyhrRhSgC9l7kY4Pq7uWHjXyKjln+TbWSiKpyHxI4Tpu4HCEaLgerpJifqvBtEiGXJCbIG+fORyc6iirZ3yT4lAwh+Fzddh9eEbx7cI/BDwBImwgVi8x1NiUYI1KuQ5NWvzMTWN0GFLw+edTVvAx1iaqiGlYY= Received: by 10.70.13.8 with SMTP id 8mr1674554wxm; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:54:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:54:42 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060118235226.GA25327@math.jussieu.fr> Cc: shih@math.jussieu.fr Subject: Re: 6.0 for nfsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:54:46 -0000 On 1/18/06, Albert Shih wrote: > I must I won't ask why, just take it as a given. > What's adavantage can I've to install FreeBSD 6.0 instead 5.x ? (The only > thing I want is the best performance AND best stability for...nfs). > If you must upgrade, go to 6.0. 5.x would be advised only for those already following 5.x and not for new installs, IMO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 04:44:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA07F16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAF643D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 141343896 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:44:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 29352 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 04:44:14 -0000 Received: from dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.68?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.99.200) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 04:44:14 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.99.200 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-12-178-99-200.ywave.com Message-ID: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:44:09 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Deal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 04:44:16 -0000 Craig Deal wrote: > I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from > the ports collection. The "MOVED" file said > "sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to > distribute". Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is > this temporary? > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user. > Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it. > > Thanks, > Craig Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html "I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports." Sounds pretty permanent to me. Use portupgrade. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 07:26:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5B16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72C543D55 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0K7ULP31290; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Dick Davies" , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:26:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060118165339.78047.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:26:49 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM >To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > >> > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to >> > make drivers for their OS, >> >> I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with >> their market share. > >Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? >For pete's sake, how can so many people be so >patently clueless and still be able to find food >and shelter? Do you really have no idea how >things work? Are you really so brainwashed by the >geeky liberals that you have lost your ability to >think? > >MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. >Vendors write drivers for windows because the >market is substantial Actually, it's a lot worse than that, most times. The vendors usually aren't the ones that write drivers, it is the chipset manufacturers that usually write a stock driver that they supply with the chipset, with the idea that the vendor is supposed to use this as an example of how the chipset it to be handled when they write their own driver. All to often, though, the vendor merely repackages the chipset manufacturer's example driver. > >Vendors don't write drivers for freebsd because: > >1) the market is too small >2) Some don't want to release source, as they'll >lose more to taiwanese cloners than they will >make selling to 'nix users. >3) X sucks, so why risk having people badmouth >your cards? > Some of this is true but most of the reason is merely that the chipset manufacturers don't write the drivers so there's nothing for the vendor to repackage. And the chipset manufacturers only write a single driver for the largest OS in market share simply because their customers (the card vendors) won't buy the chipsets if an example driver doesen't exist, and to the chipset manufacturer, every single scrap of time spent writing a driver is wasted effort, whether the driver is for Windows or some other OS. If you actually go out and buy decent quality hardware that costs more money, where the vendors do in fact just use the chipset maker-supplied driver as a base to work from, you will find drivers for lots of different non-Windows operating systems. But you won't find that hardware in the bargin bin at Fry's. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 07:51:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB94916A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:51:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BF1E43D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:51:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 26889 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 07:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.27?) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.106.241.223 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 07:51:01 -0000 Message-ID: <43D09695.7030904@sklinks.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:51:49 -0800 From: Vayu User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Post install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:51:03 -0000 I just did my first install, so far so good. I've got KDE running. I know how to play around with xorg.conf and got my screen resolution matching my monitor. My network is working to the router. Now I would like to get my graphics and sound cards working. Where can I find out about getting an nVidia driver installed (I have a 6600GT)? Where can I find out about getting my sound card working (sound blaster Audigy 2)? Right now I get no sounds anywhere in KDE. How can trace my permission errors when I try to access my CD player in KDE? (All I know about so far is to add myself to the wheel group to get su) Is there a good source of HowTos anywhere? Any help would be appreciated From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 07:58:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFFA16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:58:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACD243D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0K7vvUU026234; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:57:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43D097FD.6050401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:57:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <20060120030543.92943.qmail@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060120030543.92943.qmail@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE96E0F9CA57A2B8821460734" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:57:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1246/Thu Jan 19 21:44:42 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:58:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE96E0F9CA57A2B8821460734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter wrote: > --- Beech Rintoul wrote: >=20 >> I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on a remote serve= r. >> I've=20 >> always used passwords in the past. I generated a key pair and exported= >> my=20 >> public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed = >> sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the remote >> machine=20 >> still asks for a password. What do I change to just use the key to log= >> in?=20 >=20 > I'm assuming you do not want to enter anything to log in right? If so,= > you need a private key with a blank passphrase. It's hard to say from > here but it may be that you are being prompted for the passphrase to > unlock your private key. No, no, no. ssh keys with out pass-phrases are a liability. It really i= s a bad idea to do that. What the OP should do instead is use ssh-agent -- I fire it up from .xses= sion when I log into my desktop. Then load your key into the agent: ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_dsa which will require you to give the pass phrase. However, that's the one = and only time you'll need to do that. Then when you ssh into a box, it should auth against your key automatical= ly. If you take care to always use the '-A' flag when you ssh in: ssh -A hostname then you can bounce through several machines, and the auth requests will = be relayed back to the ssh-agent on your desktop.[*] Cheers, Matthew [*] Agent forwarding is off by default in /etc/ssh/ssh_config (client sid= e) but permitted in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (server side) -- but the -A flag overrides the client settings. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE96E0F9CA57A2B8821460734 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD0JgF8Mjk52CukIwRA5L2AJ9Y7lG6el3pqhsnyl5OmzvM1RBHdgCeNajF Ivpd8p4O7DeOGKdJzZakQYE= =CYjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE96E0F9CA57A2B8821460734-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 08:13:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F207816A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B458343D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC051A3C1B; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D326654A48; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:13:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:13:21 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Cody Holland Message-ID: <20060120081321.GB10317@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F8316489986554EB5@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B3EE484EEA4F344BBB62F8316489986554EB5@corpsrv.RedMoon.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Autoconf Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:13:23 -0000 --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:49:50PM -0600, Cody Holland wrote: > Running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and trying to install Apache 2.0.x and > getting: >=20 > autoconf: not found > buildconf: autoconf not found. > You need autoconf version 2.13 or newer installed > to build Apache from CVS. > ./buildconf failed for apr > *** Error code 1 >=20 > I have autoconf-2.13.000227_5 installed and automake-1.4.6_2. I've > removed and reinstalled autoconf several times and also tried > autoconf-259. I've installed Apache many times and have never ran into > an issue like this. Any ideas? You are using the apache 2.0 port, right? Kris --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0JuhWry0BWjoQKURAlZhAJwJiXMYmGMrEva3fsd+CVWYOO+OUACfUxD3 nkWF47RWbLYQKULp8mDt2zg= =LSmc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 08:14:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A20216A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:14:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A99343D5F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:14:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969711A3C1B; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE550528E5; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:13:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:13:59 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Micah Message-ID: <20060120081359.GC10317@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NU0Ex4SbNnrxsi6C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Craig Deal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:14:03 -0000 --NU0Ex4SbNnrxsi6C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:44:09PM -0800, Micah wrote: > Craig Deal wrote: > >I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from > >the ports collection. The "MOVED" file said > >"sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to > >distribute". Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is > >this temporary? > > > >Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user. > >Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it. > > > >Thanks, > >Craig >=20 > Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html > "I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree=20 > because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports." >=20 > Sounds pretty permanent to me. Someone else might take over development..assuming it was under an open source license, there's nothing the author can do to stop them. Kris --NU0Ex4SbNnrxsi6C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0JvHWry0BWjoQKURAgcCAKD0rl3ad6MmomDoXRj+xUCvc0QevQCgy/1G reGv23mRfZ/XZ3j1wBCkSUc= =G//V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NU0Ex4SbNnrxsi6C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 09:19:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8432F16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B7343D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0K9NHP31761; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:23:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Graham Bentley" , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:19:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <008001c61ceb$5cfdff80$0807a8c0@admin> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:19:48 -0000 What do you say to the people who want to do some research before putting the time into installing it? Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Graham Bentley >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:28 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions >list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's) >What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z? > >Thinking about it now, if I was asking the same question and >someone said "Why not try out FreeBSD and make your >own mind up!" I may think they where being a tad dismissive >however there can never be any substitue for hands on >experience !! > >To that guy (wherever he is now) :- > >Download FreeBSD and get it installed, its great! > >Come back and ask if you have any problems or >questions and we will do our best to help :)) > >Happy FreeBSD'ing !!! >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release >Date: 1/16/2006 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 10:38:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921E16A420 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.13.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 981C143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:38:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 13182 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 10:38:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zn2Ojbwbyc+c8rxMXttomjVSolUJ/GDAAjNgAONGSEYudZh7eXgz65WwSDz0lsGIKkcgNPrfleWZUccJE4qtjnme1oMeHWzMGFy5bxpw+Plq5ZHYMzGI81kJ0SSBtZfYcdf2fGM6XdZdNe9gbSMmoOkEScbqwZcNm3kw7yBOtiU= ; Message-ID: <20060120103844.13180.qmail@web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.52.212.129] by web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:38:44 PST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:38:44 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Nealis To: Matthew Seaman , Peter In-Reply-To: <43D097FD.6050401@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:38:46 -0000 --- Matthew Seaman wrote: > Peter wrote: > > --- Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on a remote server. > >> I've > >> always used passwords in the past. I generated a key pair and exported > >> my > >> public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed > >> sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the remote > >> machine > >> still asks for a password. What do I change to just use the key to log > >> in? > > > > I'm assuming you do not want to enter anything to log in right? If so, > > you need a private key with a blank passphrase. It's hard to say from > > here but it may be that you are being prompted for the passphrase to > > unlock your private key. > > No, no, no. ssh keys with out pass-phrases are a liability. It really is a > bad idea to do that. Not necessarily. They are still much better than ~/.rhosts, and having scripts containing ftp passwords. So long as you lock your screen or log out, you're not at much more risk than without null password keys. And they make administering several hundred hosts much easier. Having said that, I'd never allow any host to connect as root without a password using ssh (or over the network at all for that matter if it can be avoided). Adam. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 11:12:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CB816A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:12:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.13.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6620843D49 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:12:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 26456 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 11:12:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S8Dd2U50XZcDYdiR3NyPq9q/4Yodl94nBgKX4GDc/tgODPKFEXZO2xIVqlF2T3PI7y3oB514AoRax2vAtv0jVprL/8zPFEyTrxK6ZSzByssX9gBUuj0JWJK2wd8Ez4Xhipj9c/udmCrHkjRx0JbHClJGNWKYSpwXERqNoX2O8NM= ; Message-ID: <20060120111248.26454.qmail@web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.52.212.129] by web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:48 PST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Nealis To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Graham Bentley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:12:53 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > What do you say to the people who want to do some research before > putting the time into installing it? I would suggest going to http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and reading the FAQ (especially section 1) and the handbook for a start. This should give you an idea of the approach and the level of technical awareness you will need. The community and support sections should help you get a feel for how the OS is actually received. > > Ted > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Graham Bentley > >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:28 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > > > >Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions > >list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's) > >What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z? > > > >Thinking about it now, if I was asking the same question and > >someone said "Why not try out FreeBSD and make your > >own mind up!" I may think they where being a tad dismissive > >however there can never be any substitue for hands on > >experience !! > > > >To that guy (wherever he is now) :- > > > >Download FreeBSD and get it installed, its great! > > > >Come back and ask if you have any problems or > >questions and we will do our best to help :)) > > > >Happy FreeBSD'ing !!! > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release > >Date: 1/16/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 11:24:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C224016A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9901243D4C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:24:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=admin) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1EzuNK-0003BM-Ve; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:24:15 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c61db4$09d5c080$0807a8c0@admin> From: "Graham Bentley" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , References: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:24:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:24:26 -0000 > What do you say to the people who want to do some research before > putting the time into installing it? > > Ted http://www.freesbie.org/ ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 11:39:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767C216A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266843D49 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:39:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0KBbDLW000918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:37:13 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.5/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k0KBbAEi000910; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:37:13 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:37:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Vince Hoffman To: Kilian Hagemann In-Reply-To: <200601191521.13840.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> Message-ID: <20060120113208.T99873@unsane.co.uk> References: <200601171907.17831.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <44255.195.139.252.5.1137597225.squirrel@webmail.i13i.com> <200601181746.51461.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> <200601191521.13840.hagemann1@egs.uct.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Haven't been hacked, just prone to man-in-the-middle attacks (WAS: I have been hacked) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:39:06 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Kilian Hagemann wrote: > Hi guys, > > Just to find closure on this thread, I'd like to admit that I jumped to > conclusions too early and would like to share what had actually happened, > after many hours wasted playing the detective :-( (glad I didn't > format/reinstall though) > > When I "used" my FreeBSD gateway as an smtp server to convince myself I had > been hacked, the smtp connection was somehow redirected to one of my > institution's mail servers (or at least that's what gmail's mail headers are > saying). Funny enough the same trick no longer works today, but then they're > currently upgrading lots of stuff around here so that's a different story. > > Then when I used ftp to connect to my gateway and it came up with "frox > transparent proxy", someone had actually intercepted my connection and > forged/spoofed a reply. I know that because I went to the premises of my box, > unplugged everything and tried that trick again, successfully, from a > separate dial-up connection. Hey, nmap even told me my box had ports open > even though it wasn't even up! > > I've never seen anything like this before, but I've notified my ISP. Remains > to be seen if they do anything about it... > Good to know you werent hacked, I have seen this before for at least one dialup ISP, redirecting all smtp traffic via their smtp server(s) presumably to stop spammers. (Confused me back at the time to see an exim banner on what should be a sendmail server.) 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:06:08 -0000 We're running perl 5.8.7_2 (from ports), with a mix of modules installed via ports and CPAN, all on a 6.0-STABLE machine. Someone tried to install WWW::Mechanize from CPAN, and when it tried to do a 'make test', there was an error. If I build the module in ports and go into the work directory and run 'make test' manually, I get the same test error. I usually prefer to install Perl modules through ports when possible, so that portupgrade can take care of them for me. However, one of the shortcomings of the (at least default) way in which ports installs Perl modules is that ports does not run 'make test'. Is there a clever way to have the ports system run 'make test' before installing a Perl module? Most of the /usr/ports/*/p5-*/Makefile files do not have 'test' defined as a target. Does anyone have any advice for how to go about ironing out this problem? My first inclination is to remake each of my p5-* ports and run 'make test' on them manually and then have CPAN reinstall everything that we have installed via CPAN. Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 12:28:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DCE16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:28:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: from pinnacle.akherb.com (94-37-237-24.gci.net [24.237.37.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74743D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 936DD608C; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:28:11 -0900 (AKST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pinnacle.akherb.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from [192.168.241.108] (237-206-237-24.gci.net [24.237.206.237]) by pinnacle.akherb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516955DAB; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:28:10 -0900 (AKST) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: Matthew Seaman Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 03:27:54 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060120030543.92943.qmail@web60018.mail.yahoo.com> <43D097FD.6050401@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <43D097FD.6050401@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1627095.JQZACYY9Bj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200601200328.08133.akbeech@gmail.com> Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:28:13 -0000 --nextPart1627095.JQZACYY9Bj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 19 January 2006 22:57, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Peter wrote: > > --- Beech Rintoul wrote: > >> I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on a remote serve= r. > >> I've > >> always used passwords in the past. I generated a key pair and exported > >> my > >> public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed > >> sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the remote > >> machine > >> still asks for a password. What do I change to just use the key to log > >> in? > > > > I'm assuming you do not want to enter anything to log in right? If so, > > you need a private key with a blank passphrase. It's hard to say from > > here but it may be that you are being prompted for the passphrase to > > unlock your private key. > > No, no, no. ssh keys with out pass-phrases are a liability. It really is > a bad idea to do that. > > What the OP should do instead is use ssh-agent -- I fire it up from > .xsession when I log into my desktop. Then load your key into the agent: > > ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_dsa > > which will require you to give the pass phrase. However, that's the one > and only time you'll need to do that. > > Then when you ssh into a box, it should auth against your key > automatically. If you take care to always use the '-A' flag when you ssh > in: > > ssh -A hostname > > then you can bounce through several machines, and the auth requests will = be > relayed back to the ssh-agent on your desktop.[*] > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] Agent forwarding is off by default in /etc/ssh/ssh_config (client sid= e) > but permitted in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (server side) -- but the -A flag > overrides the client settings. Thanks, my original problem was solved by just starting over with a new key= =20 pair. Must of had a bad key. I ran debug on the server and it said it=20 couldn't read it even though it was there. I'll try the agent today. It'll= =20 require adding a pass-phrase to the key, but that's no problem now that I=20 know all the configs are good. I really don't mind the final default to a=20 password. I just hate to type it all the time. I'm using a long very crypti= c=20 pass and it gets tedious to have to enter it several times. Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions, Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@gmail.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://akparadise.byethost33.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart1627095.JQZACYY9Bj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBD0NdXVq19LUoGB+MRAq7TAJ9IWMDys8K41l0IeaHnkT6OzhooqwCghVcp WBqLzL/xtXAUUY4eEY8ofhI= =Jwrc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1627095.JQZACYY9Bj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 13:03:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163E716A420 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dima@prylad.com.ua) Received: from mail.com.if.ua (mail.com.if.ua [194.126.180.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934FE43D48 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dima@prylad.com.ua) Received: from x1 (unknown [10.99.2.131]) by mail.com.if.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA09327DB6 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:57:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <001201c61dc1$def994f0$08646464@x1> From: "dima" To: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:03:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:09:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:03:14 -0000 how dial-up from server on home pc and start using internet (both = computers - freebsd_6.0) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 13:33:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D95E16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:33:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54E743D48 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EzwOZ-0008FH-1x; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:33:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:33:37 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-ID: <20060120073337.2569abec@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: References: <008001c61ceb$5cfdff80$0807a8c0@admin> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc1e5411cfefd01dc44a65f1506742204e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Graham Bentley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:33:46 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:19:38 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > What do you say to the people who want to do some research before > putting the time into installing it? > > Ted http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsddiary.org/topics.php http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/ http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/index.php? http://www.ixsystems.com/cgi-bin/store/bsdlive.html http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=freebsd&btnG=Google+Search and don't forget: "Have Fun!" Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 13:57:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CDE16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) Received: from smtp1.pochta.ru (smtp1.pochta.ru [81.211.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E1843D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:57:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) Received: from andrew (82-208-80-136.uac1.unlim.mts-nn.ru [82.208.80.136]) (author=dark2003@hotbox.ru authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.pochta.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP daemon=POCHTA.RU id k0KDvBHq069298 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:57:11 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from dark2003@hotbox.ru) X-Author: dark2003@hotbox.ru from andrew (82-208-80-136.uac1.unlim.mts-nn.ru [82.208.80.136]) via Free Mail POCHTA.RU Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:56:19 +0300 From: =?Windows-1251?Q?=C0=ED=E4=F0=E5=E9?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1688774099.20060120165619@hotbox.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Re: vidcontrol does not give mode more 800x600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?Q?=C0=ED=E4=F0=E5=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:57:16 -0000 > Though they may be listed, modes higher than 800x600 > don't appear to function. so when run on vmware all modes there is in list and all function From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 16:20:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED85416A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:20:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18A43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:20:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j3so340779ugf for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:20:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=d8J+5vWjCI881snAT/yRJUWGzXoBxQnrP/k+3/G8YLL8/vhZAr/NMNlIwa041rioFMRJb+nJFfmRbh7Tm7JXHfl2NnguRA2EGLyl1ukAyvUldwJR2Pg2IVjxZQmkZ+QQLjxyh3bsL1ee5fBhsCgTgmSKj9rn2HgkuCqAglxRHFw= Received: by 10.48.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr153310nfc; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.231.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:14:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:14:29 -0500 From: "Michael P. Soulier" Sender: msoulier@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: out of swap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:20:34 -0000 Hey people, I'm running 5.4, and I just found a ton of these in my daily security run. kanga.digitaltorque.ca kernel log messages: > swap_pager_getswapspace(6): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed I'm running jdk 1.4.2 and tomcat 5.5.9, and I noticed that it was down this morning. My swap is fine now. [msoulier@kanga ~]$ swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/ad0s1b 482120 66268 415852 14% So I'm assuming that there's a memory leak in jdk 1.4.2, and it slowly used up all my memory. Sound right? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 16:22:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA8C16A436 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A9543D4C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:22:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so494222wra for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:22:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aQ3/xLKAv99R5LEdVOtfHvhA9cFrRl7xAloWAoqYXNxrCUfqjtn6VewwhTXJORFRMz6O3C5f5HTbTxHE6ARL6Qzhf09Wk4oEj6C77Z/dPnvwVXM2eAqcuMwcUnOcGaRNEEV15rIReZQnNp5/NxQ/nRJ58tgcIl1N/hBgrPrJatk= Received: by 10.64.232.3 with SMTP id e3mr1301760qbh; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.72.1 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:22:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4dd4cddf0601200822k74ecdafr@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:22:55 +0000 From: Martin Tournoy To: freebsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Wake-on-LAN won't work if FreeBSD/Linux shuts down the system...? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:23:00 -0000 I'm trying to get WoL working, and actually works quite well as long as windows shuts down the system. However, when FreeBSD or Linux shuts down my system, it won't work, and if I manually turn on the system and shut it down again (even before POST is done) WoL will work again(!?!?) I've tried shutting down my system in every way I could think of, but it doesn't seem to matter... I've been googling for hours on this and didn't get alot wiser, does anyone have any experience or solution for this? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 16:38:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7366316A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guru@Sisis.de) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907A843D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from guru@Sisis.de) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20459; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:36:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@Sisis.de) From: guru@Sisis.de Received: from hermes.sisis.de(193.31.10.38) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma020451; Fri, 20 Jan 06 17:35:48 +0100 Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (rebelion.Sisis.de [193.31.10.34]) by hermes.sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25239; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:38:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@Sisis.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k0KGc0Mj028638; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:38:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@Sisis.de) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@Sisis.de using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:38:00 +0100 To: Juergen Lock Message-ID: <20060120163800.GA28449@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20060102110540.GA9244@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20060102215735.GA74916@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060102215735.GA74916@saturn.kn-bremen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: 6.0-REL && ports/emulators/qemu = PANIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: guru@Sisis.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:38:20 -0000 El día Monday, January 02, 2006 a las 10:57:35PM +0100, Juergen Lock escribió: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 12:05:40PM +0100, guru@Sisis.de wrote: > > > > Hi Juergen, > > > > I've installed 6.0-REL from the CD which brings the qemu/kqemu > > as PORTVERSION= 0.7.0s.20050717 but loading the kernel module > > kqemu.so (without even using it) crashes the system; > > > > to what PORTVERSION can I update, even to 0.8 with my 6.0-REL? > > Not sure why you get a panic, but you can of course use the latest > port with 6.0-R. Should you still get a panic with that then it > would be nice if you could enable crashdumps and post the backtrace > on -emulation and Cc me... When I moved from 5.4-REL to 6.0-REL I took my 4 GByte disk file for qemu with me having a W2k in it; the W2k starts fine on 6.0-REL's qemu but some Windows apps are crashing, for example OutLook complains about a wrong MAPI32.DLL; I went back to the 5.4-REL box, there the OutLook runs fine; shutdown W2k, copied over the disk image to 6.0-REL again and OutLook crashes; this is with 0.7.0s.20050717 and with 0.8.0; does W2k has somehow an information about the old host system and notes the shift? matthias -- Matthias Apitz / Sisis Informationssysteme GmbH ein Tochterunternehmen der OCLC PICA B.V. Leiden (NL) D-82041 Oberhaching, Gruenwalder Weg 28g Fon: +49 89 / 61308-351, Fax: -399, Mobile +49 170 4527211 http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 17:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 27F4216A420; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060120170201.27F4216A420@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 17:02:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 2FC7016A422; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060120170201.2FC7016A422@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 17:18:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B0C16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4067043D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so505976wra for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:18:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mDWslaVNOST/4BQCd1khdQ9PmKeXNkDocxZo+4D6N1NEAynkNW8X6+QJfJqPlCmLmZz8tgbIAkzg3d8lQuGjS4QaR/mf5gdAILTKeTOSzG/Xnh2tQRNCGfpbGiNkE/1pgAKcRpPh99X+odj34w1lWu2R3mm2mtbng+H3WBKq7CU= Received: by 10.64.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr163629qbb; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.100.58.33? ( [204.176.49.46]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29sm415974qbd.2006.01.20.09.18.11; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:18:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43D11B4F.90806@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:18:07 -0800 From: Joe S User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joe S Subject: Can't mount existing data disk after upgrade (disklabel gone) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:18:13 -0000 First of all, I have learned something VERY important about FreeBSD. SAVE your DISKLABELS! I have 2 drives in my home file server. One 80GB drive (ad0) for the OS and one 300 GB drive for my data. A few days ago, I performed a clean install of FreeBSD 6.0 on the 1st drive (ad0). After the install I tried to mount ad4, but could not. I read somewhere that I was supposed to save my disklabels. DOH! I did not do this, nor have I ever read about this in the FreeBSD handbook. After reading through the handbook and googling, I found a tool called scan_ffs that can help me recreate my disklabels by scanning my drive for partitions. Great! Here is the output of scan_ffs on ad4: root@coruscant# scan_ffs -l /dev/ad4 X: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data Good. That is my /data partition. Its UFS2, created in FBSD 5.4. Next, I tried editing the disklabel. It starts out like this: # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 I changed it to this: # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 But, I get this error: partition a: partition extends past end of unit re-edit the label? [y]: Here is the output of bsdlabel. Notice the different sizes: root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4 # /dev/ad4: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586114688 16 unused 0 0 c: 586114704 0 unused 0 0 root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 root@coruscant# root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1a # /dev/ad4s1a: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099300 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099316 0 unused 0 0 When I try to mount /dev/ad4s1a to /data, I get this error: coruscant# mount /dev/ad4s1a /mnt mount: /dev/ad4s1a on /mnt: incorrect super block How can I properly re-create the disklabel? It seems this is what I need to do in order to get to my data. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -joe PS> Here is my dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Mon Dec 19 23:46:33 UTC 2005 root@builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 1072889856 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1040945152 (992 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) pci_link0: irq 11 on acpi0 pci_link1: irq 3 on acpi0 pci_link2: irq 10 on acpi0 pci_link3: irq 5 on acpi0 pci_link4: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link5: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link6: irq 9 on acpi0 pci_link7: irq 9 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebfffff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 atapci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb803,0xb400-0xb407,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xac0f mem 0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 22 at device 1.0 on pci2 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci2 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xfeade000-0xfeadefff,0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff irq 18 at device 4.0 on pci2 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:9f:dd:0f isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci2: failed to enable memory mapping! ata4: on atapci2 ata5: on atapci2 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcf7ff,0xcf800-0xd7fff,0xd8000-0xd87ff,0xd8800-0xd9fff,0xda000-0xdafff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2394008600 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master UDMA100 ad4: Promise subdisks has no flags sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 17:32:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0AD16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:32:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2714C43D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.218]) by ylpvm29.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0KHW0ri023793 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:32:04 -0500 X-ORBL: [68.90.147.71] Received: from [192.168.1.25] (adsl-68-90-147-71.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net [68.90.147.71]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0KHW1h8100706; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <43D11E8E.5000906@mkproductions.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:31:58 -0600 From: Mark Kane User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vayu References: <43D09695.7030904@sklinks.com> In-Reply-To: <43D09695.7030904@sklinks.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig560854F4E6E19707FD5ABFF7" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Post install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:32:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig560854F4E6E19707FD5ABFF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vayu wrote: > I just did my first install, so far so good. I've got KDE running. I > know how to play around with xorg.conf and got my screen resolution > matching my monitor. My network is working to the router. Now I would= > like to get my graphics and sound cards working. Hi, and welcome to FreeBSD :) > Where can I find out about getting an nVidia driver installed (I have a= > 6600GT)? For this, install the nvidia-driver from ports and then read the instructions displayed at the end of the install to know how to load it. Then, I personally just followed these instructions and loaded it into my X config manually: http://download.nvidia.com/freebsd/1.0-8178/README/chapter-03-section-02.= html > Where can I find out about getting my sound card working (sound blaster= > Audigy 2)? Right now I get no sounds anywhere in KDE. I use an Audigy 2 Platinum and it works great. You can either load a kernel module for the sound driver or compile it into your kernel. Here are the instructions on how to do either: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.htm= l The sound driver for your card is the snd_emu10k1 so that first example for loading it as a module and then adding it into loader.conf should work for you. Also, since you're running KDE, you'll need to take a couple steps there. I have not used KDE in a while, but I remember having some problems getting sound to work when I initially started using FreeBSD as a desktop. The problem was I didn't realize that KDE took over the sound with it's "aRtsd". So once you have sound working in FreeBSD and if it still doesn't work while in KDE, then look throughout the KDE options for a KDE mixer and make sure all the levels are up (on the "Input" tab too if they still have that). > How can trace my permission errors when I try to access my CD player in= > KDE? (All I know about so far is to add myself to the wheel group to > get su) For this problem, try setting the permissions on your CD drive. Check out "man devfs.conf" or this online man page for more info: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Ddevfs.conf&apropos=3D0&sektion= =3D5&manpath=3DFreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=3Dhtml > Is there a good source of HowTos anywhere? The handbook answers quite a few questions about setting things up and is a great tool. Also searching the mailing list archives and/or Google usually turns up quite a bit. -Mark > Any help would be appreciated >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 GnuPG Public Key: http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) --------------enig560854F4E6E19707FD5ABFF7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0R6RlH2ybcmj7I8RArN/AJ9koASMmEwISAC/3ZQ0RSfOPENmbQCdGJUu v8476F5UrqvDPo9OCxrdsYs= =wGgb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig560854F4E6E19707FD5ABFF7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:11:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992F816A423 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: from zhengyi.ath.cx (adsl-69-236-187-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.236.187.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E69143D48 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: by zhengyi.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D86FC5081E; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:11:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:11:22 -0800 From: Justin Meyer To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-ID: <20060120191122.GE18407@oracle.local.lan> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Absolutely None Subject: PHP junk pointer error with imagick.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zhengyi@anarkismus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:11:30 -0000 Hi All, I recently noticed running a phpinfo() page that the page would not completely render. When I looked in /var/log/httpd-errors.log, I found the following error every time I hit that page: [Fri Jan 20 10:53:08 2006] [notice] child pid 88217 exit signal Abort trap (6) httpd in free(): error: junk pointer, too high to make sense After successively commenting and uncommenting each extension I have for php, I finally found the culprit extension to be imagick.so. I found the commit message for ImageMagick 6.2.5.5 at http://www.freshports.org/graphics/ImageMagick/ suggesting that there were segfaults with earlier versions, and so on a hunch I did a portupgrade -rf ImageMagick. No dice; I still can't load the imagick.so extension to php without running into these junk pointer errors. FYI, here's the (I think) relevant ports I have installed: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.34+2.8.25_2 ImageMagick-6.2.5.5 php4-4.4.2 php4-extensions-1.0 pecl-imagick-0.9.11_3 Has anyone else encountered this issue? Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might resolve it? Thanks! -- Justin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:27:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D34316A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com [64.41.126.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D426C43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.117] (rrcs-24-123-186-213.se.biz.rr.com [24.123.186.213]) by xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09691D807A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:27:02 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alvaro_J._Gurdi=E1n?= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:26:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:04 -0000 Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell Dimension L800CXE. It booted properly. ( since it's running a generic kernel with only a name change) However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. Ex: ping google.com ping: cannot resolve google.com: Hostname lookup failure ping 192.168.1.1 ping: sendto: No route to host I tried several addresses inside the LAN, 127.0.0.1, localhost, 192.168.1.128, and all gave the same result. I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with NAT also, and it worked peerfectly there. So just to be safe I erased the contents of /etc/rc.conf, and then used sysinstall to bring up my NIC. I chose NO for IPv6, and YES for DHCP. That seemed to work correctly, just to be sure I ran ifconfig: dc0: flags=108843 MTU 1500 options=8 inet 192.168.1.128 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:80:ad:81:1a:9f media: Ethernat autoselect (100baseTX) status: active plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 1500 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Still, things are looking good; so, I go to another box, log into my router(192.168.1.1), and I can see the MAC address of the BSD box on my router. However, I still get the same results when I ping as I did above. Then I checked the routing tables: netstat -r Routing Tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 6 dc0 localhost localhost UH 1 37 lo0 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 dc0 192.168.1.1 00:0c:41:bd:49:7d UHLW 1 0 dc0 695 192.168.1.128 localhost UGHS 0 0 lo0 The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began having this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. Yesterday's output was different in that the BSD box had a different IP address, 192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand that the box is communicating with the router and negotiating leases when they expire. However, why has the gateway to 192.168.1.1 changed from link#1 to the MAC address of my router. I am certain that if I restart the computer that same gateway will revert to link#1. The my questions are: How do I get the system to see others in the network, and vice-versa? What should the gateway for 192.168.1.1 be?(which also happens to be my routers address) I am hoping it is something simple. I could just as have easily reinstalled the system and started from scratch, but I wanted to know how to solve this problem. Other info that might help: less /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_dco="DHCP" hostname="fw.company.com" defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" less /etc/resolv.conf search carolina.rr.com nameserver 24.25.5.60 naemserver 24.25.5.61 less /etc/hosts ::1 localhost.company.com localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost.company.com localhost Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:33:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D19B16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C2143D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0KIWmEB063900; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:32:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:32:30 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alvaro_J=2E_Gurdi=E1n=22?= , FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:33:06 -0000 Check your /etc/rc.conf for this line: defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" add it and reboot if it is missing -Derek At 12:26 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell Dimension=20 >L800CXE. It booted properly. ( since it's running a generic kernel with=20 >only a name change) > >However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. >Ex: >ping google.com >ping: cannot resolve google.com: Hostname lookup failure > >ping 192.168.1.1 >ping: sendto: No route to host > >I tried several addresses inside the LAN, 127.0.0.1, localhost,=20 >192.168.1.128, and all gave the same result. > >I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with NAT=20 >also, and it worked peerfectly there. > > >So just to be safe I erased the contents of /etc/rc.conf, and then used=20 >sysinstall to bring up my NIC. I chose NO for IPv6, and YES for DHCP. > >That seemed to work correctly, just to be sure I ran ifconfig: >dc0: flags=3D108843 MTU 1500 > options=3D8 > inet 192.168.1.128 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:80:ad:81:1a:9f > media: Ethernat autoselect (100baseTX) > status: active >plip0: flags=3D108810 mtu 1500 >lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 1500 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > >Still, things are looking good; so, I go to another box, log into my=20 >router(192.168.1.1), and I can see the MAC address of the BSD box on my= router. > > >However, I still get the same results when I ping as I did above. > >Then I checked the routing tables: > >netstat -r >Routing Tables > >Internet: >Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif = Expire >default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 6 dc0 >localhost localhost UH 1= =20 > 37 lo0 >192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0= =20 > dc0 >192.168.1.1 00:0c:41:bd:49:7d UHLW 1 0 dc0 695 >192.168.1.128 localhost UGHS 0 0 lo0 > >The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began having=20 >this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. Yesterday's=20 >output was different in that the BSD box had a different IP address,=20 >192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand that the box is communicating=20 >with the router and negotiating leases when they expire. However, why has= =20 >the gateway to 192.168.1.1 changed from link#1 to the MAC address of my=20 >router. I am certain that if I restart the computer that same gateway=20 >will revert to link#1. > >The my questions are: >How do I get the system to see others in the network, and vice-versa? >What should the gateway for 192.168.1.1 be?(which also happens to be my=20 >routers address) > > >I am hoping it is something simple. I could just as have easily=20 >reinstalled the system and started from scratch, but I wanted to know how= =20 >to solve this problem. > >Other info that might help: >less /etc/rc.conf >ifconfig_dco=3D"DHCP" >hostname=3D"fw.company.com" >defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" > >less /etc/resolv.conf >search carolina.rr.com >nameserver 24.25.5.60 >naemserver 24.25.5.61 > >less /etc/hosts >::1 localhost.company.com localhost >127.0.0.1 localhost.company.com localhost > >Thanks in advance > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:39:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B9D16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8151843D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 5305 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2006 18:33:05 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 18:33:05 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 86F5E61A0; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:39:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:39:42 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Martin Tournoy Message-ID: <20060120183942.GC3966@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <4dd4cddf0601200822k74ecdafr@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4dd4cddf0601200822k74ecdafr@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Wake-on-LAN won't work if FreeBSD/Linux shuts down the system...? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:46 -0000 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:22:55PM +0000, Martin Tournoy wrote: > I'm trying to get WoL working, and actually works quite well as long > as windows shuts down the system. > However, when FreeBSD or Linux shuts down my system, it won't work, > and if I manually turn on the system and shut it down again (even > before POST is done) WoL will work again(!?!?) > > I've tried shutting down my system in every way I could think of, but > it doesn't seem to matter... > > I've been googling for hours on this and didn't get alot wiser, does > anyone have any experience or solution for this? You ask such a question without saying anything about what NIC you are using? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:50:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734A916A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com [64.41.126.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1D343D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.117] (rrcs-24-123-186-213.se.biz.rr.com [24.123.186.213]) by xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5126ED80AE for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:50:16 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <3782a16465b4e0bec305f4b151acc8fe@lanoticia.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alvaro_J._Gurdi=E1n?= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:50:00 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:50:17 -0000 thanks, but the defaultrouter line was already present in my=20 /etc/rc.conf. On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Derek Ragona wrote: > Check your /etc/rc.conf for this line: > defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" > > add it and reboot if it is missing > > -Derek > > > At 12:26 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >> Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell Dimension=20= >> L800CXE. It booted properly. ( since it's running a generic kernel=20= >> with only a name change) >> >> However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. >> Ex: >> ping google.com >> ping: cannot resolve google.com: Hostname lookup failure >> >> ping 192.168.1.1 >> ping: sendto: No route to host >> >> I tried several addresses inside the LAN, 127.0.0.1, localhost,=20 >> 192.168.1.128, and all gave the same result. >> >> I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with=20= >> NAT also, and it worked peerfectly there. >> >> >> So just to be safe I erased the contents of /etc/rc.conf, and then=20 >> used sysinstall to bring up my NIC. I chose NO for IPv6, and YES=20 >> for DHCP. >> >> That seemed to work correctly, just to be sure I ran ifconfig: >> dc0: flags=3D108843 MTU 1500 >> options=3D8 >> inet 192.168.1.128 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >> ether 00:80:ad:81:1a:9f >> media: Ethernat autoselect (100baseTX) >> status: active >> plip0: flags=3D108810 mtu 1500 >> lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 1500 >> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >> >> Still, things are looking good; so, I go to another box, log into my=20= >> router(192.168.1.1), and I can see the MAC address of the BSD box on=20= >> my router. >> >> >> However, I still get the same results when I ping as I did above. >> >> Then I checked the routing tables: >> >> netstat -r >> Routing Tables >> >> Internet: >> Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif=20= >> Expire >> default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 6 =20= >> dc0 >> localhost localhost UH =20= >> 1 37 lo0 >> 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 =20= >> 0 dc0 >> 192.168.1.1 00:0c:41:bd:49:7d UHLW 1 0 dc0 =20= >> 695 >> 192.168.1.128 localhost UGHS 0 0 =20= >> lo0 >> >> The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began=20 >> having this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. =20 >> Yesterday's output was different in that the BSD box had a different=20= >> IP address, 192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand that the box is=20= >> communicating with the router and negotiating leases when they=20 >> expire. However, why has the gateway to 192.168.1.1 changed from=20 >> link#1 to the MAC address of my router. I am certain that if I=20 >> restart the computer that same gateway will revert to link#1. >> >> The my questions are: >> How do I get the system to see others in the network, and vice-versa? >> What should the gateway for 192.168.1.1 be?(which also happens to be=20= >> my routers address) >> >> >> I am hoping it is something simple. I could just as have easily=20 >> reinstalled the system and started from scratch, but I wanted to know=20= >> how to solve this problem. >> >> Other info that might help: >> less /etc/rc.conf >> ifconfig_dco=3D"DHCP" >> hostname=3D"fw.company.com" >> defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" >> >> less /etc/resolv.conf >> search carolina.rr.com >> nameserver 24.25.5.60 >> naemserver 24.25.5.61 >> >> less /etc/hosts >> ::1 localhost.company.com localhost >> 127.0.0.1 localhost.company.com localhost >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:52:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EF316A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BBF43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63C0DD81F; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:50:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:53:06 +0100 From: cpghost To: Micah Message-ID: <20060120185306.GA22942@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Craig Deal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ringworm01@gmail.com Subject: Re: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:52:50 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:44:09PM -0800, Micah wrote: > Craig Deal wrote: > >I just ran portmanager -s and it said that it has been removed from > >the ports collection. The "MOVED" file said > >"sysutils/portmanager||2006-01-19|Author withdrew permission to > >distribute". Does this mean it will not be available any more, or is > >this temporary? > > > >Does anyone have a recommendation for a replacement for a novice user. > >Portmanager was very easy to use and I never had a problem with it. > > > >Thanks, > >Craig > > Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html > "I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree > because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports." > > Sounds pretty permanent to me. > > Use portupgrade. Eww... :) portupgrade with its ruby dependency? Actually portmanager was/is a very good replacement for portupgrade, lightweight, C-based, and its author was pretty helpful in the past providing quick fixes and help on questions@. > HTH, > Micah Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 18:55:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD04216A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DABB43D49 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:55:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so511971wra for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WSFog+qTGXmjueTLxdlvb2aXu7uSqk3PjlE02U1srG87xOR52c4RwhIKvOX6San+qKOI5gkco30EjqZ9kQOHlYYtB6V6Le1paj0bC2s88N+wCkvPQ9uwygi8SSceJAslqCvvYYwjB5H4k39i3+uBgNGYOMkvJy0ZkIJ1eJSUxVM= Received: by 10.54.151.17 with SMTP id y17mr4289166wrd; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.100.58.33? ( [204.176.49.45]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 11sm3359693wrl.2006.01.20.10.55.39; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43D13227.5020709@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:55:35 -0800 From: Joe S User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe S References: <43D11B4F.90806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43D11B4F.90806@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't mount existing data disk after upgrade (disklabel gone) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:55:42 -0000 Joe S wrote: > First of all, I have learned something VERY important about FreeBSD. > SAVE your DISKLABELS! > > I have 2 drives in my home file server. One 80GB drive (ad0) for the OS > and one 300 GB drive for my data. A few days ago, I performed a clean > install of FreeBSD 6.0 on the 1st drive (ad0). After the install I tried > to mount ad4, but could not. I read somewhere that I was supposed to > save my disklabels. DOH! I did not do this, nor have I ever read about > this in the FreeBSD handbook. > > After reading through the handbook and googling, I found a tool called > scan_ffs that can help me recreate my disklabels by scanning my drive > for partitions. Great! > > Here is the output of scan_ffs on ad4: > root@coruscant# scan_ffs -l /dev/ad4 > X: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data > > Good. That is my /data partition. Its UFS2, created in FBSD 5.4. > Next, I tried editing the disklabel. It starts out like this: > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 > c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 > > I changed it to this: > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data > c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 > > But, I get this error: > partition a: partition extends past end of unit > re-edit the label? [y]: > > Here is the output of bsdlabel. Notice the different sizes: > root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4 > # /dev/ad4: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 586114688 16 unused 0 0 > c: 586114704 0 unused 0 0 > root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1 > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 > c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 > root@coruscant# > root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1a > # /dev/ad4s1a: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 586099300 16 unused 0 0 > c: 586099316 0 unused 0 0 > > When I try to mount /dev/ad4s1a to /data, I get this error: > coruscant# mount /dev/ad4s1a /mnt > mount: /dev/ad4s1a on /mnt: incorrect super block > > How can I properly re-create the disklabel? It seems this is what I need > to do in order to get to my data. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -joe > > > PS> Here is my dmesg: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Mon Dec 19 23:46:33 UTC 2005 > root@builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > ACPI APIC Table: > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > > Features2=0x4400> > real memory = 1072889856 (1023 MB) > avail memory = 1040945152 (992 MB) > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > npx0: [FAST] > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > pci_link0: irq 11 on acpi0 > pci_link1: irq 3 on acpi0 > pci_link2: irq 10 on acpi0 > pci_link3: irq 5 on acpi0 > pci_link4: irq 0 on acpi0 > pci_link5: irq 0 on acpi0 > pci_link6: irq 9 on acpi0 > pci_link7: irq 9 on acpi0 > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at > device 0.0 on pci0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > uhci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f > irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f > irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0xd400-0xd41f > irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci3: port 0xd800-0xd81f > irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 > uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb3: on uhci3 > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci0: mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebfffff irq > 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 > ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb4: EHCI version 1.0 > usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 > usb4: on ehci0 > usb4: USB revision 2.0 > uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered > pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > atapci0: port > 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb803,0xb400-0xb407,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xac0f > mem 0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 22 at device 1.0 on pci2 > ata2: on atapci0 > ata3: on atapci0 > ahc0: port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem > 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci2 > ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs > fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem > 0xfeade000-0xfeadefff,0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff irq 18 at device 4.0 on pci2 > miibus0: on fxp0 > inphy0: on miibus0 > inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:9f:dd:0f > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci1: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci1 > ata1: on atapci1 > atapci2: port > 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f > irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci2: failed to enable memory mapping! > ata4: on atapci2 > ata5: on atapci2 > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppbus0: on ppc0 > plip0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > orm0: at iomem > 0xc0000-0xcf7ff,0xcf800-0xd7fff,0xd8000-0xd87ff,0xd8800-0xd9fff,0xda000-0xdafff > on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2394008600 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 > acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 > ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master UDMA100 > ad4: Promise subdisks has no flags > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > Wonderful. In trying to recreate the disklabel, i was unaware that sysinstall would also try to format it. It re-formatted my drive. I stopped it after 3 seconds when I realized what was happening. Can someone please add this to the handbook? Also, can someone recommend some good forensics tools? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 19:06:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386C416A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668943D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k0KJ6GR4087117; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:06:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <43D134A8.2010601@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:06:16 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Micah References: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <43D06A99.8070900@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Craig Deal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:06:18 -0000 Micah wrote: > Check out http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/preface.html > "I have decided to remove portmanager from the FreeBSD ports tree > because I do not get along with the people in charge of FreeBSD ports." > > Sounds pretty permanent to me. > > Use portupgrade. 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Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 19:30:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655C316A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDE143D79 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:30:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:52388 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F01xY-000PFq-PV; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:30:09 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Joe S'" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:29:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcYd5aDaXW33Dt+PRS2mLyE/C3QHfwADpeFwAADn/FA= Message-Id: <20060120193009.0DDE143D79@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Can't mount existing data disk after upgrade (disklabel gone) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:30:33 -0000 Joe, If you did not touch ad4 the disklabel it should still have been there, but I presume that you have destroyed it by now. Did you make any kind of backup ? such as a dump of the filesystem ? How did you try to mount ad4s1a ? ( I am assuming you tried to mount the 'partition' and not the slice (ad4s1) or the device (ad4)). Why are you changing the offset of ad4s1a from 16 to 2097215 ? Is there another partition on there somewhere or do you just not want to use that part of your disk ? Also, you scan_ffs ad4 instead of ad4s1 which is what you should be interested in. The size differences are normal because there's a difference between ad4 ad4s1 and ad4s1a. You want to write the correct disklabel to ad4s1 and then mount ad4s1a. You're 'a' partition extends past the size of the disk (c) because a(584002180)+offset(2097215)= 586099395 > c:( 586099332) (by 63) If you can correctly replicate the exact disklabel you should be able to access your data. Otherwise, chalk it up to experience. I hope this helps. Ruben -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Joe S Sent: January 20, 2006 6:18 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Joe S Subject: Can't mount existing data disk after upgrade (disklabel gone) First of all, I have learned something VERY important about FreeBSD. SAVE your DISKLABELS! I have 2 drives in my home file server. One 80GB drive (ad0) for the OS and one 300 GB drive for my data. A few days ago, I performed a clean install of FreeBSD 6.0 on the 1st drive (ad0). After the install I tried to mount ad4, but could not. I read somewhere that I was supposed to save my disklabels. DOH! I did not do this, nor have I ever read about this in the FreeBSD handbook. After reading through the handbook and googling, I found a tool called scan_ffs that can help me recreate my disklabels by scanning my drive for partitions. Great! Here is the output of scan_ffs on ad4: root@coruscant# scan_ffs -l /dev/ad4 X: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data Good. That is my /data partition. Its UFS2, created in FBSD 5.4. Next, I tried editing the disklabel. It starts out like this: # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 I changed it to this: # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 584002180 2097215 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 # /data c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 But, I get this error: partition a: partition extends past end of unit re-edit the label? [y]: Here is the output of bsdlabel. Notice the different sizes: root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4 # /dev/ad4: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586114688 16 unused 0 0 c: 586114704 0 unused 0 0 root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099316 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099332 0 unused 0 0 root@coruscant# root@coruscant# bsdlabel -r ad4s1a # /dev/ad4s1a: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 586099300 16 unused 0 0 c: 586099316 0 unused 0 0 When I try to mount /dev/ad4s1a to /data, I get this error: coruscant# mount /dev/ad4s1a /mnt mount: /dev/ad4s1a on /mnt: incorrect super block How can I properly re-create the disklabel? It seems this is what I need to do in order to get to my data. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -joe PS> Here is my dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Mon Dec 19 23:46:33 UTC 2005 root@builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 1072889856 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1040945152 (992 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) pci_link0: irq 11 on acpi0 pci_link1: irq 3 on acpi0 pci_link2: irq 10 on acpi0 pci_link3: irq 5 on acpi0 pci_link4: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link5: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link6: irq 9 on acpi0 pci_link7: irq 9 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebfffff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 atapci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb803,0xb400-0xb407,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xac0f mem 0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 22 at device 1.0 on pci2 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem 0xfeadf000-0xfeadffff irq 17 at device 2.0 on pci2 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xfeade000-0xfeadefff,0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff irq 18 at device 4.0 on pci2 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:9f:dd:0f isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci2: failed to enable memory mapping! ata4: on atapci2 ata5: on atapci2 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcf7ff,0xcf800-0xd7fff,0xd8000-0xd87ff,0xd8800-0xd9fff,0xda000-0xda fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2394008600 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 286188MB at ata2-master UDMA100 ad4: Promise subdisks has no flags sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 01/14/2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 19:43:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56B16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:43:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C943D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:43:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8113D1A3C1D; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CADF55190B; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:43:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:43:58 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Michael P. Soulier" Message-ID: <20060120194358.GA41039@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: out of swap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:44:00 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:14:29AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hey people, >=20 > I'm running 5.4, and I just found a ton of these in my daily security run. >=20 > kanga.digitaltorque.ca kernel log messages: > > swap_pager_getswapspace(6): failed > > swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed > > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > > swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed >=20 > I'm running jdk 1.4.2 and tomcat 5.5.9, and I noticed that it was down > this morning. My swap is fine now. >=20 > [msoulier@kanga ~]$ swapinfo > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > /dev/ad0s1b 482120 66268 415852 14% >=20 > So I'm assuming that there's a memory leak in jdk 1.4.2, and it slowly > used up all my memory. >=20 > Sound right? Or you just don't have enough virtual memory (RAM + swap) to handle your peak loads. This is perhaps more likely. Kris --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0T1+Wry0BWjoQKURAh3GAKD77hiGmqicj8oXRAZ3w+AcWLS2RACgt+c+ AeEN+TQX5h4uWoDtJodyiW8= =NsyP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 19:44:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B615416A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:44:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FC843D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:44:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0KJhsle064967; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:43:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120133722.025b9850@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:43:48 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Alvaro_J=2E_Gurdi=E1n=22?= , FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <3782a16465b4e0bec305f4b151acc8fe@lanoticia.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <3782a16465b4e0bec305f4b151acc8fe@lanoticia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:44:11 -0000 See if you can ping your own interface. You should be able to ping it on=20 both the loop back 127.0.0.1 and the 192.168.1.128 address. If you can ping those and still not the router at 192.168.1.1 check for=20 other defaultrouter statements. If you have only one of these statements,= =20 I would bring down the interface and bring it up manually until you find=20 the correct settings. For instance you may need to set the line speed 1t=20 10 MBs, or 100 MBs or 1000 Mbs, or set the duplex setting. Oh and check=20 the LED's on your ethernet interface and router and hub/switches to be sure= =20 you didn't knock a cable loose. -Derek At 12:50 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >thanks, but the defaultrouter line was already present in my /etc/rc.conf. > >On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Derek Ragona wrote: > >>Check your /etc/rc.conf for this line: >>defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" >> >>add it and reboot if it is missing >> >> -Derek >> >> >>At 12:26 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >>>Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell Dimension=20 >>>L800CXE. It booted properly. ( since it's running a generic kernel with= =20 >>>only a name change) >>> >>>However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. >>>Ex: >>>ping google.com >>>ping: cannot resolve google.com: Hostname lookup failure >>> >>>ping 192.168.1.1 >>>ping: sendto: No route to host >>> >>>I tried several addresses inside the LAN, 127.0.0.1, localhost,=20 >>>192.168.1.128, and all gave the same result. >>> >>>I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with NAT= =20 >>>also, and it worked peerfectly there. >>> >>> >>>So just to be safe I erased the contents of /etc/rc.conf, and then used= =20 >>>sysinstall to bring up my NIC. I chose NO for IPv6, and YES for DHCP. >>> >>>That seemed to work correctly, just to be sure I ran ifconfig: >>>dc0: flags=3D108843 MTU 1500 >>> options=3D8 >>> inet 192.168.1.128 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >>> ether 00:80:ad:81:1a:9f >>> media: Ethernat autoselect (100baseTX) >>> status: active >>>plip0: flags=3D108810 mtu 1500 >>>lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 1500 >>> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >>> >>>Still, things are looking good; so, I go to another box, log into my=20 >>>router(192.168.1.1), and I can see the MAC address of the BSD box on my= router. >>> >>> >>>However, I still get the same results when I ping as I did above. >>> >>>Then I checked the routing tables: >>> >>>netstat -r >>>Routing Tables >>> >>>Internet: >>>Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif=20 >>>Expire >>>default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 6 >>> dc0 >>>localhost localhost UH >>> 1 37 lo0 >>>192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 >>> 0 dc0 >>>192.168.1.1 00:0c:41:bd:49:7d UHLW 1 0 dc0 >>> 695 >>>192.168.1.128 localhost UGHS 0 0 >>> lo0 >>> >>>The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began having= =20 >>>this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. >>>Yesterday's output was different in that the BSD box had a different IP= =20 >>>address, 192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand that the box is=20 >>>communicating with the router and negotiating leases when they=20 >>>expire. However, why has the gateway to 192.168.1.1 changed from link#1= =20 >>>to the MAC address of my router. I am certain that if I restart the=20 >>>computer that same gateway will revert to link#1. >>> >>>The my questions are: >>>How do I get the system to see others in the network, and vice-versa? >>>What should the gateway for 192.168.1.1 be?(which also happens to be my= =20 >>>routers address) >>> >>> >>>I am hoping it is something simple. I could just as have easily=20 >>>reinstalled the system and started from scratch, but I wanted to know=20 >>>how to solve this problem. >>> >>>Other info that might help: >>>less /etc/rc.conf >>>ifconfig_dco=3D"DHCP" >>>hostname=3D"fw.company.com" >>>defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" >>> >>>less /etc/resolv.conf >>>search carolina.rr.com >>>nameserver 24.25.5.60 >>>naemserver 24.25.5.61 >>> >>>less /etc/hosts >>>::1 localhost.company.com localhost >>>127.0.0.1 localhost.company.com localhost >>> >>>Thanks in advance >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 20:13:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4428F16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:13:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C066143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k0KKDhR4089766; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:13:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <43D14477.8010803@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:13:43 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <3782a16465b4e0bec305f4b151acc8fe@lanoticia.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20060120133722.025b9850@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120133722.025b9850@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alvaro_J=2E_Gurdi=E1n=22?= , FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:13:50 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote: > See if you can ping your own interface. You should be able to ping it > on both the loop back 127.0.0.1 and the 192.168.1.128 address. Well, he said he'd tried the loopback, but it's worth double checking of course. A finger fumble and a resulting false negative can lead to hours of useless troubleshooting. Fun for some, pain for most! The OP wrote: >>>> The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began >>>> having this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. >>>> Yesterday's output was different in that the BSD box had a different >>>> IP address, 192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand that the box >>>> is communicating with the router and negotiating leases when they >>>> expire. However, why has the gateway to 192.168.1.1 changed from >>>> link#1 to the MAC address of my router. I am certain that if I >>>> restart the computer that same gateway will revert to link#1. If I'm not mistaken (warning: lately I have been mistaken more than is usual ;) you're going to get the link#1 indicator prior to your box having had any reason to arp for the router, meaning "generally, that IP address should be somewhere in that direction". You'll see the MAC address after the box has tried and succeeded with an arp request, meaning "that IP address is precisely right there". That the indicator changes to a MAC address is a sure sign of basic NIC functionality as well as cabling that transmits and receives OK, at least some of the time. >>>> I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with NAT also, and it worked peerfectly there. The fact that you can use arp and DHCP but not ping smells like there is leftover ipf/nat configuration or related kernel/module issues that are preventing appropriate packet flow. Ensuring that such features are disabled is the only thing I can suggest short of reinstalling, which I am fairly confident would solve the problem. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 20:33:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BC116A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:33:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9AC43D48 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:33:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0KKWMkn084026; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:32:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43D148CC.8070906@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:32:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alvaro_J=2E_Gurdi=E1n=22?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:33:32 -0000 Alvaro J. Gurdián wrote: > Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell Dimension > L800CXE. > It booted properly. ( since it's running a generic kernel with only a > name change) > > However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. > > > > I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with > NAT also, and it worked peerfectly there. I'd check to make sure nothing was left in the "old" IPF config that would be screwing things up now that I'd moved the disk. Just a though, KDK -- A woman can never be too rich or too thin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 20:34:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861D516A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com [64.41.126.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:34:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AJGurdian@lanoticia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.117] (rrcs-24-123-186-213.se.biz.rr.com [24.123.186.213]) by xbox00.csee.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FC2D8080 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:34:22 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120133722.025b9850@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20060120123154.025c07c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> <3782a16465b4e0bec305f4b151acc8fe@lanoticia.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20060120133722.025b9850@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <68ed1dc6d6f5d3b2df0ae9f29fbe1346@lanoticia.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alvaro_J._Gurdi=E1n?= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:34:05 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Subject: Re: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:34:24 -0000 I tried both of those and got the same result, ping: sendto: No route=20 to host. I examined my dmesg output a little closer and noticed: IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default =3D block all, Logging =3D = enabled This means that my assumption of disabling IPF by removing all of the=20 comments tertainin to it and IPNat from /etc/rc.conf were wrong because=20= it it compiled statically. This means that there is no way to turn it=20= off, right? So I reloaded my old /etc.rc.conf with the somments to turn on IPF and=20= IPNat, and point to their rules files. The previous computer this HD was installed on had two NICs sis0 and=20 sis1. sis0 was connected to the WAN, so I just changed sis0 in all the=20 comments to dc0. I made sure there was a statement that allowed ICMP=20 statements thru. I restarted, and things stayed the same, so I went back to=20 /etc/ipf.rules and changed all instances of sis1 to dc0, also maing=20 sure the ICMP statement was there. I restarted again and, once again ,no progress. Since the previous=20 machine had two interfaces this is most likely the issue since nat is=20 messing things up. I have to get moving forward with this project so I am simply=20 downloading the new 6.0 release. This should solve the problem. Thanks anyway On Jan 20, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Derek Ragona wrote: > See if you can ping your own interface. You should be able to ping it=20= > on both the loop back 127.0.0.1 and the 192.168.1.128 address. > > If you can ping those and still not the router at 192.168.1.1 check=20 > for other defaultrouter statements. If you have only one of these=20 > statements, I would bring down the interface and bring it up manually=20= > until you find the correct settings. For instance you may need to set=20= > the line speed 1t 10 MBs, or 100 MBs or 1000 Mbs, or set the duplex=20 > setting. Oh and check the LED's on your ethernet interface and router=20= > and hub/switches to be sure you didn't knock a cable loose. > > -Derek > > > At 12:50 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >> thanks, but the defaultrouter line was already present in my=20 >> /etc/rc.conf. >> >> On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Derek Ragona wrote: >> >>> Check your /etc/rc.conf for this line: >>> defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" >>> >>> add it and reboot if it is missing >>> >>> -Derek >>> >>> >>> At 12:26 PM 1/20/2006, Alvaro J. Gurdi=E1n wrote: >>>> Yesterday I placed an HD with Freebsd 5.3 release in a Dell=20 >>>> Dimension L800CXE. It booted properly. ( since it's running a=20 >>>> generic kernel with only a name change) >>>> >>>> However I could not ping anything inside or outside the LAN. >>>> Ex: >>>> ping google.com >>>> ping: cannot resolve google.com: Hostname lookup failure >>>> >>>> ping 192.168.1.1 >>>> ping: sendto: No route to host >>>> >>>> I tried several addresses inside the LAN, 127.0.0.1, localhost,=20 >>>> 192.168.1.128, and all gave the same result. >>>> >>>> I was previously using this HD in another machine to test IPF, with=20= >>>> NAT also, and it worked peerfectly there. >>>> >>>> >>>> So just to be safe I erased the contents of /etc/rc.conf, and then=20= >>>> used sysinstall to bring up my NIC. I chose NO for IPv6, and YES=20= >>>> for DHCP. >>>> >>>> That seemed to work correctly, just to be sure I ran ifconfig: >>>> dc0: flags=3D108843 MTU 1500 >>>> options=3D8 >>>> inet 192.168.1.128 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast=20 >>>> 192.168.1.255 >>>> ether 00:80:ad:81:1a:9f >>>> media: Ethernat autoselect (100baseTX) >>>> status: active >>>> plip0: flags=3D108810 mtu 1500 >>>> lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 1500 >>>> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >>>> >>>> Still, things are looking good; so, I go to another box, log into=20= >>>> my router(192.168.1.1), and I can see the MAC address of the BSD=20 >>>> box on my router. >>>> >>>> >>>> However, I still get the same results when I ping as I did above. >>>> >>>> Then I checked the routing tables: >>>> >>>> netstat -r >>>> Routing Tables >>>> >>>> Internet: >>>> Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use =20 >>>> Netif Expire >>>> default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 6 >>>> dc0 >>>> localhost localhost UH >>>> 1 37 lo0 >>>> 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 >>>> 0 dc0 >>>> 192.168.1.1 00:0c:41:bd:49:7d UHLW 1 0 dc0 >>>> 695 >>>> 192.168.1.128 localhost UGHS 0 0 >>>> lo0 >>>> >>>> The output of netstat and ifconfig aboe are from today. I began=20 >>>> having this problem yesterday, and left the box on over night. >>>> Yesterday's output was different in that the BSD box had a=20 >>>> different IP address, 192.168.1.122. That is fine I understand=20 >>>> that the box is communicating with the router and negotiating=20 >>>> leases when they expire. However, why has the gateway to=20 >>>> 192.168.1.1 changed from link#1 to the MAC address of my router. I=20= >>>> am certain that if I restart the computer that same gateway will=20= >>>> revert to link#1. >>>> >>>> The my questions are: >>>> How do I get the system to see others in the network, and=20 >>>> vice-versa? >>>> What should the gateway for 192.168.1.1 be?(which also happens to=20= >>>> be my routers address) >>>> >>>> >>>> I am hoping it is something simple. I could just as have easily=20 >>>> reinstalled the system and started from scratch, but I wanted to=20 >>>> know how to solve this problem. >>>> >>>> Other info that might help: >>>> less /etc/rc.conf >>>> ifconfig_dco=3D"DHCP" >>>> hostname=3D"fw.company.com" >>>> defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" >>>> >>>> less /etc/resolv.conf >>>> search carolina.rr.com >>>> nameserver 24.25.5.60 >>>> naemserver 24.25.5.61 >>>> >>>> less /etc/hosts >>>> ::1 localhost.company.com localhost >>>> 127.0.0.1 localhost.company.com localhost >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 20:36:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94F816A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7741443D77 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18168 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 20:36:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Wcj+m3jvkcMjypg/LDK3M4E3srjPBcIbhjGpxCAe+rERiUn1lnb0WUf9bZ6XjfFs3RU+kzh5h6wxi6THSnbGDM7t5ECxiUdyG5bNqt/YJlGv2nABq2clNHWvYu1CC525BSyzD/mH6fwnYPA9iRp8Fjf1QJbJUv2SifQxA8ud2JA= ; Message-ID: <20060120203604.18166.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.157.39] by web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:36:04 PST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Dick Davies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:36:12 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Danial Thom > >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM > >To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > > > > > >> > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > >> > make drivers for their OS, > >> > >> I seriously doubt it. They don't need to > with > >> their market share. > > > >Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or > something? > >For pete's sake, how can so many people be so > >patently clueless and still be able to find > food > >and shelter? Do you really have no idea how > >things work? Are you really so brainwashed by > the > >geeky liberals that you have lost your ability > to > >think? > > > >MS doesn't have to "pay" vendors, you toad. > >Vendors write drivers for windows because the > >market is substantial > > Actually, it's a lot worse than that, most > times. > > The vendors usually aren't the ones that write > drivers, > it is the chipset manufacturers that usually > write a > stock driver that they supply with the chipset, > with the > idea that the vendor is supposed to use this as > an > example of how the chipset it to be handled > when they > write their own driver. All to often, though, > the vendor > merely repackages the chipset manufacturer's > example > driver. More rambling, useless points from Ted. Whether its written from scratch or not is irrelevant. The point is that in order to produce a windows driver you have to buy the dev kit, and MS doesn't pay them to do it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 20:40:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7D516A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1F2743D4C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 466 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 20:40:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0VnPmN69Ky4ek9zF7pPAh/k4QxHqE64cBzl9BlVMgUujvOdIKj//X3IWKPPQyJVJXeXnDhHzpHxMuje8hOzDe1+fVyfjTrGdRYDIIwbSLK0XBNyfCZK6lZl0gMeIYUKlF/58S5qF4H8GxdBtZf/DPbvuQY09cMHKg6RvSsjv8i0= ; Message-ID: <20060120204024.464.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.157.39] by web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:40:24 PST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Derrick Francis In-Reply-To: <20060119231825.GA98806@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Support for FreeBSD 4.10/4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:26 -0000 --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 02:28:09PM -0800, > Derrick Francis wrote: > > Have a simple question. If someone to > request support for version 4.10 > > or 4.9 how would they be supported? Please > let me know. I need to > > verify this version of FreeBSD is still > supported. Thank you. > > Generally speaking these old versions are not > supported at all. They > might still be receiving security support (see > http://www.freebsd.org/security/), but if you > e.g. try to report a bug > then you'll mostly get people telling you to > upgrade to a supported > version first (since after all there's a good > chance the bug is > already fixed). > > At this point you really need to plan to > upgrade to the 6.0 series, > since that's where the future lies. Sadly the "future" most likely lies in v9.0, so hold on to 4.x for as long as you can. Hire a programmer to fix or port stuff back. It will save you in the long run. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 21:00:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42A116A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:00:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647F343D49 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:00:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060120210033.RXPB5278.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:00:33 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alvaro_J._Gurdi=E1n?= , "FreeBSD-Questions Questions" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:00:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <68ed1dc6d6f5d3b2df0ae9f29fbe1346@lanoticia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: cannot ping anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:00:34 -0000 delete all your ipf rules and replace with single pass all rule From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 21:24:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8239916A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:24:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858C743D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0KLObqK015375; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:37 +0100 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with UUCP id k0KLObBE015373; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:37 +0100 Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (nox@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0KLFiIE010543; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:15:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id k0KLFicW010542; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:15:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:15:44 +0100 To: guru@Sisis.de Message-ID: <20060120211544.GA10503@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <20060102110540.GA9244@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20060102215735.GA74916@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <20060120163800.GA28449@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060120163800.GA28449@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: 6.0-REL && ports/emulators/qemu = PANIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:24:40 -0000 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 05:38:00PM +0100, guru@Sisis.de wrote: > El d?a Monday, January 02, 2006 a las 10:57:35PM +0100, Juergen Lock escribi?: > > > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 12:05:40PM +0100, guru@Sisis.de wrote: > > > > > > Hi Juergen, > > > > > > I've installed 6.0-REL from the CD which brings the qemu/kqemu > > > as PORTVERSION= 0.7.0s.20050717 but loading the kernel module > > > kqemu.so (without even using it) crashes the system; > > > > > > to what PORTVERSION can I update, even to 0.8 with my 6.0-REL? > > > > Not sure why you get a panic, but you can of course use the latest > > port with 6.0-R. Should you still get a panic with that then it > > would be nice if you could enable crashdumps and post the backtrace > > on -emulation and Cc me... > > When I moved from 5.4-REL to 6.0-REL I took my 4 GByte disk file > for qemu with me having a W2k in it; the W2k starts fine on 6.0-REL's > qemu but some Windows apps are crashing, for example OutLook complains > about a wrong MAPI32.DLL; I went back to the 5.4-REL box, there the > OutLook runs fine; shutdown W2k, copied over the disk image to 6.0-REL > again and OutLook crashes; this is with 0.7.0s.20050717 and with 0.8.0; > > does W2k has somehow an information about the old host system and notes > the shift? Possibly, but I'm no windows expert. (Btw, please Cc me with followups that you want me to see, I'm not subscribed on -questions...) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 21:25:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C296616A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: from qmail3.ifxnetworks.com (qmail3.ifxnetworks.com [200.110.128.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C1B43D62 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: (qmail 6638 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 21:25:32 -0000 X-Spam-DCC: Misty: qmail3.ifxnetworks.com 1170; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on qmail3.ifxnetworks.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.5 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO dmw.hopto.org) (dmw@unete.cl@[200.73.82.116]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.ifxnetworks.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2006 21:25:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:41 -0300 From: Daniel Molina Wegener To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20060120212741.GA988@dmw.hopto.org> References: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: message Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> Organization: DMW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Molina Wegener List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:38 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:41:41PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on > a remote server. I've always used passwords in the past. > I generated a key pair and exported my public key to > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed > sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the > remote machine still asks for a password. What do I change to > just use the key to log in? Well, that's right, but you must set also the next options: ChallengeResponseAuthentication no PermitEmptyPasswords no PasswordAuthentication no IgnoreRhosts yes IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes HostbasedAuthentication no RhostsRSAAuthentication no PubkeyAuthentication yes PermitRootLogin no StrictModes yes This could be more secure. Never allow remote users to gain root access. Instead, put a user in the wheel group to allow this user to run su(1), also, you can setup a user with uid = 0, on another group to maintain the root user a little bit more safe. Also, the logging options are should be these settings. SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel VERBOSE > Thanks, Best regards... Atte. -- . 0 . | Daniel Molina Wegener . . 0 | dmw at unete dot cl 0 0 0 | FreeBSD Power User From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 21:25:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF83416A431 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: from qmail3.ifxnetworks.com (qmail3.ifxnetworks.com [200.110.128.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DB643D64 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: (qmail 6638 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 21:25:32 -0000 X-Spam-DCC: Misty: qmail3.ifxnetworks.com 1170; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on qmail3.ifxnetworks.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.5 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO dmw.hopto.org) (dmw@unete.cl@[200.73.82.116]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail3.ifxnetworks.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2006 21:25:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:27:41 -0300 From: Daniel Molina Wegener To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20060120212741.GA988@dmw.hopto.org> References: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: message Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601191741.58953.akbeech@gmail.com> Organization: DMW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Molina Wegener List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:25:40 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:41:41PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > I'm trying to set up ssh to use keys to authenticate on > a remote server. I've always used passwords in the past. > I generated a key pair and exported my public key to > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine. I changed > sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication no". when I login the > remote machine still asks for a password. What do I change to > just use the key to log in? Well, that's right, but you must set also the next options: ChallengeResponseAuthentication no PermitEmptyPasswords no PasswordAuthentication no IgnoreRhosts yes IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes HostbasedAuthentication no RhostsRSAAuthentication no PubkeyAuthentication yes PermitRootLogin no StrictModes yes This could be more secure. Never allow remote users to gain root access. Instead, put a user in the wheel group to allow this user to run su(1), also, you can setup a user with uid = 0, on another group to maintain the root user a little bit more safe. Also, the logging options are should be these settings. SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel VERBOSE > Thanks, Best regards... Atte. -- . 0 . | Daniel Molina Wegener . . 0 | dmw at unete dot cl 0 0 0 | FreeBSD Power User From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 21:26:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7790F16A44D for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:26:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E48743D5F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:26:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0KLOPKF084347; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:24:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43D154FC.9030704@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:24:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20060120194358.GA41039@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060120194358.GA41039@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Michael P. Soulier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: out of swap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:26:18 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:14:29AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > >>Hey people, >> >>I'm running 5.4, and I just found a ton of these in my daily security run. >> >>kanga.digitaltorque.ca kernel log messages: >> >> >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(6): failed >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed >>>swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed >>> >>> >>I'm running jdk 1.4.2 and tomcat 5.5.9, and I noticed that it was down >>this morning. My swap is fine now. >> >>[msoulier@kanga ~]$ swapinfo >>Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >>/dev/ad0s1b 482120 66268 415852 14% >> >>So I'm assuming that there's a memory leak in jdk 1.4.2, and it slowly >>used up all my memory. >> >>Sound right? >> >> > >Or you just don't have enough virtual memory (RAM + swap) to handle >your peak loads. This is perhaps more likely. > >Kris > > I'd almost offer "definitely more likely", as the amount of swap shown is less than 1/2 GB. Michael, how much RAM on this box? I once set up a box with 256M RAM and 512M swap, which was all good && fine until I got a few extra $$ and decided to up the RAM to 768M. After that, it died most every evening with Xorg running out of swapspace. If you've more RAM than swap, it's very possible that any process, but especially larger ones, could cause problems like this. Fortunately, it's not too difficult to add some swap --- provided you've some unformatted disk space available. Kevin Kinsey -- You have a reputation for being thoroughly reliable and trustworthy. A pity that it's totally undeserved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 22:32:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F211D16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:32:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from natfrord.rzone.de (natfrord.rzone.de [81.169.145.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6B143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480CC96.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.204.150]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0KMWeb0009077 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:32:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439F5E379FD8 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:32:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16292-03-2 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:32:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id A1D60E379FD0; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:32:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:32:38 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060120223238.GA17286@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060120191122.GE18407@oracle.local.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060120191122.GE18407@oracle.local.lan> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: PHP junk pointer error with imagick.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:32:43 -0000 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:11:22AM -0800, Justin Meyer wrote: > Has anyone else encountered this issue? Does anyone have any > suggestions as to how I might resolve it? I have similar problems with imagick and also with xslt. These two modules make php segfault e.g. when installing pear-ports. The problem seems to exist only on machines with ldap-setup (nss_ldap, pam_ldap). Do you run your machine with nss_ldap? I know of two other users who reported similar problems, both with nss_ldap. Solutions? I have mailed the php-maintainer about the problem but got no response. I don't think it would help to additionally make a PR, so for me there are 2 possible ways to solve this: 1) don't use imagick or xslt 2) don't use FreeBSD for PHP-development Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 22:38:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDDE16A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:38:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Received: from mailhub.doruk.net.tr (mailhub.doruk.net.tr [212.58.5.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB8643D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Received: from mail5.doruk.net.tr ([212.58.5.30]) by mailhub.doruk.net.tr with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1F04tn-0000ZY-Ci for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:38:27 +0200 Received: by mail5.doruk.net.tr (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.5) with PIPE id 2991863; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:38:10 +0200 Received: from [212.58.5.207] (HELO gecicitest1.doruk.net.tr) by mail5.doruk.net.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with SMTP id 2987743 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:37:19 +0200 Received: (qmail 26159 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2006 22:33:58 -0000 Received: from vahric.doruk.net.tr (HELO VAHOXP) (212.58.13.17) by gecicitest1.doruk.net.tr with SMTP; 20 Jan 2006 22:33:56 -0000 From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:32:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYeEXT6Y4wlK3SJTEawIkCwRjLFcg== X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender CommuniGate-Pro 1.6.2 on mail5.doruk.net.tr Message-ID: X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111AAAAAAAAgAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC X-BitDefender-Spam: Evet (78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: !!***SPAM***!! AMD64 X2 Dual and RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:38:22 -0000 Hi, Will start to using AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU) , I installed freebsd 6.0 and I can see that FreeBSD can see the cpu with correct name Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU) Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20f32 Stepping = 2 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Features=0x178bfbff Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Features2=0x1 Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: AMD Features=0xe2500800,LM,3DNow+,3DNow> Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs But when I checked top out I couldn't see C column .. also I added "options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel" line to kernel conf and compile it still I couldn't see system work like two cpu ? I know FreeBSD habe amd64 compatible (including OpteronT, Athlon 64, and EM64T) , but this cpu call like "AMD AthlonT 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor " not " AMD AthlonT 64 Processor " Any knowledge about this ? And system can't see more then 3gb ram ? Thanks Vahric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 22:56:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C3E16A429 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:56:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F5143D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:56:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1462D1A3C1B; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4541851FBC; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:56:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:56:03 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Vahric MUHTARYAN Message-ID: <20060120225603.GA44429@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: !!***SPAM***!! AMD64 X2 Dual and RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:56:04 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 12:32:55AM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: > =20 > Hi, > =20 > Will start to using AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ > (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU) , I installed freebsd 6.0 and I can see that > FreeBSD can see the cpu with correct name=20 > =20 > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Process= or > 4400+ (2188.80-MHz K8-class CPU) > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x20f32 > Stepping =3D 2 > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: > Features=3D0x178bfbff ,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MM > X,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Features2=3D0x1 > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: AMD > Features=3D0xe2500800,LM,3DNow+,3DNow> > Jan 21 02:20:27 spma2 kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > =20 > But when I checked top out I couldn't see C column .. also I added "opti= ons > SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel" line to kernel > conf and compile it still I couldn't see system work like two cpu ?=20 > =20 > I know FreeBSD habe amd64 compatible (including OpteronT, Athlon 64, and > EM64T) , but this cpu call like "AMD AthlonT 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor " > not " AMD AthlonT 64 Processor "=20 > =20 > Any knowledge about this ?=20 This is a FAQ. You probably need a BIOS update to allow FreeBSD to see and use the second core. > And system can't see more then 3gb ram ? Sure it can. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0WqCWry0BWjoQKURAnzoAJ9wi7Kdyf6RhnCIidcfYaQe8oESDQCeK17s fDX71D2bctbE9Yutse1z++4= =GavB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 22:59:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBD116A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:59:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4FA43D64 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:59:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o2so177445uge for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:59:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RYqG6M3GgwVBYaSHpyhBEYr4xBN7pz/CsnMqPoz8SenM8zGYplzfT8/FN8eaP6dAmnPaggo53vGxySfdaLD5JTJ3+qUoeabJFt/nyzJzLq6wfOd3H1PmSa0drY2AlH8dmIkc9RLndES/i/4Nb+jq4DTu26SxT/jqYi1gCNoFCYw= Received: by 10.49.20.12 with SMTP id x12mr187947nfi; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.41.1 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:59:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:59:16 +0000 From: Alexandre Vieira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: awk question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:59:24 -0000 Hello folks, I'm making a script to generate some statistics for a batch job and I'm stuck with awk. For example: %echo 1 2 3 4 5 6 | awk {'print $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6'} it will output: 1 2 3 4 5 6 I want to tokenize a string with another separating char (the : char): %echo 1:2:3:4:5:6 and with awk to output: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Is there any way of doing this? Real example: I have a log file with the following output: 2006-01-20 - 20:01:07 - Some text 2006-01-20 - 20:01:15 - Some text 2006-01-20 - 20:01:38 - Some text (...) and since I'm generating hourly stats I need to match the "20" which is in = a string "20:01:07" that is separated by the char ":". I hope I've been clear. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 23:19:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36A216A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp01.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (smtp01.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844C343D48 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:19:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from smtp01.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9C+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0KNJW9B023218; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:19:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (smtp09.smtp.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.239]) by smtp01.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9.3B+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0KNJT4E023202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:19:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9C+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0KNJTlH002685; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:19:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from a129103.n1.vanderbilt.edu (A129103.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.129.103]) by smtp09.smtp.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VU-3.7.9.3B+d3.7.9) with ESMTP id k0KNJT2d002682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:19:29 -0600 (CST) From: Don Hinton Organization: ISIS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:19:24 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2029823.R1IqImfhSs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200601201719.29153.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> Cc: Alexandre Vieira Subject: Re: awk question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:19:35 -0000 --nextPart2029823.R1IqImfhSs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Alexandre: On Friday 20 January 2006 16:59, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Hello folks, > > I'm making a script to generate some statistics for a batch job and I'm > stuck with awk. > > For example: > > %echo 1 2 3 4 5 6 | awk {'print $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6'} > > it will output: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 > > I want to tokenize a string with another separating char (the : char): > > %echo 1:2:3:4:5:6 > > and with awk to output: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 > > Is there any way of doing this? Sure. Here's a link to the online awk documentation section on field=20 seperators... http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/html_node/Field-Separators.html#Fie= ld-Separators ciao... don > > Real example: > > I have a log file with the following output: > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:07 - Some text > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:15 - Some text > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:38 - Some text > (...) > > and since I'm generating hourly stats I need to match the "20" which is in > a string "20:01:07" that is separated by the char ":". > > I hope I've been clear. > > Thanks for your help. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 Don Hinton tel: 615.480.5667 ISIS, Vanderbilt University skype: donhinton http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~don.hinton/ --nextPart2029823.R1IqImfhSs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBD0XAB0U0xbM5cLs0RAj0mAJ9R98okWZ/XiAs0yeIhzNrVOOXlwgCgwURM L9KZx6YmMxAgENEMPVLLDCw= =Uoxw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2029823.R1IqImfhSs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 23:25:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C98216A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:25:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5107043D46 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:25:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j3so34871ugf for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:25:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RAURrnKZBpyPRlfIhCYG8boTYX02epBq1FOcAeakzffq8p64dTeXiX47xcHN71aibObYxRKcRf3YerTgW1FqGylL3D1nGjWWqEOxbILpYOqhI92McxcloOkGPq3k42UEakzi5zj40QTNnH8JHhycAVnskXF5ksnUJgDHODLZ8lI= Received: by 10.48.108.7 with SMTP id g7mr187672nfc; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.41.1 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:25:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <755cb9fc0601201525x6892a40dte1b50f271c6958dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:25:46 +0000 From: Alexandre Vieira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200601201719.29153.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> <200601201719.29153.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: awk question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:25:49 -0000 On 1/20/06, Don Hinton wrote: > > Hi Alexandre: > > On Friday 20 January 2006 16:59, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > I'm making a script to generate some statistics for a batch job and I'm > > stuck with awk. > > > > For example: > > > > %echo 1 2 3 4 5 6 | awk {'print $1 $2 $3 $4 $5 $6'} > > > > it will output: > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 > > > > I want to tokenize a string with another separating char (the : char): > > > > %echo 1:2:3:4:5:6 > > > > and with awk to output: > > > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 > > > > Is there any way of doing this? > > Sure. Here's a link to the online awk documentation section on field > seperators... > > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/html_node/Field-Separators.html#F= ield-Separators > > ciao... > don > > > > > > Real example: > > > > I have a log file with the following output: > > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:07 - Some text > > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:15 - Some text > > 2006-01-20 - 20:01:38 - Some text > > (...) > > > > and since I'm generating hourly stats I need to match the "20" which is > in > > a string "20:01:07" that is separated by the char ":". > > > > I hope I've been clear. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Don Hinton tel: 615.480.5667 > ISIS, Vanderbilt University skype: donhinton > http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~don.hinton/ > > > Geez I can believe it was that easy. Thank you. -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 23:35:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D71016A41F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:35:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: from zhengyi.ath.cx (adsl-69-236-187-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.236.187.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEED43D45 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:35:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhengyi@zhengyi.ath.cx) Received: by zhengyi.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E86EC5081E; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:35:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:35:36 -0800 From: Justin Meyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060121003536.GF18407@oracle.local.lan> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060120191122.GE18407@oracle.local.lan> <20060120223238.GA17286@laverenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060120223238.GA17286@laverenz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Absolutely None Subject: Re: PHP junk pointer error with imagick.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zhengyi@anarkismus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:35:44 -0000 Hi Uwe! On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:11:22AM -0800, Justin Meyer wrote: > > > Has anyone else encountered this issue? Does anyone have any > > suggestions as to how I might resolve it? > > I have similar problems with imagick and also with xslt. These two > modules make php segfault e.g. when installing pear-ports. The problem > seems to exist only on machines with ldap-setup (nss_ldap, pam_ldap). Do > you run your machine with nss_ldap? Oh hell no; I'm not into that kind of pain :) Just plain ol' /etc/passwd here, thanks! > Solutions? I have mailed the php-maintainer about the problem but got > no response. I don't think it would help to additionally make a PR, so > for me there are 2 possible ways to solve this: > > 1) don't use imagick or xslt Well, in truth I don't *need* this module, just thought it'd be useful, but still, this bugs the shit out of me... > 2) don't use FreeBSD for PHP-development .. b-b-but I *like* FreeBSD! Nope, not gonna abandon this platform. If I don't hear from anyone else anytime soon, I'll take this to -ports and see what they say. Thanks, Uwe; at least I know I'm not alone :) -- Justin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 01:58:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC716A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (mail.storm.ca [209.87.239.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5681143D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (ppp-216-106-109-114.storm.ca [216.106.109.114]) by mail.storm.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0L1vdZo007769; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E507623DC6; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from msoulier@localhost) by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0L1vUgI032478; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:57:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tigger.digitaltorque.ca: msoulier set sender to msoulier@digitaltorque.ca using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:57:29 -0500 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20060121015729.GD19607@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Kinsey , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060120194358.GA41039@xor.obsecurity.org> <43D154FC.9030704@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43D154FC.9030704@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: out of swap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:58:29 -0000 --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/01/06 Kevin Kinsey said: > I'd almost offer "definitely more likely", as the amount of swap > shown is less than 1/2 GB. Michael, how much RAM on this box? [msoulier@kanga ~]$ sysctl -a | grep Memory Virtual Memory: (Total: 720K, Active 537852K) Real Memory: (Total: 236228K Active 123640K) Shared Virtual Memory: (Total: 24812K Active: 11880K) Shared Real Memory: (Total: 12136K Active: 6672K) Free Memory Pages: 11692K Mem: 124M Active, 25M Inact, 75M Wired, 10M Cache, 34M Buf, 768K Free Swap: 471M Total, 67M Used, 403M Free, 14% Inuse It's not a lot, but it's always been fine for me when running Linux as a headless server.=20 > I once set up a box with 256M RAM and 512M swap, which was > all good && fine until I got a few extra $$ and decided to up the > RAM to 768M. After that, it died most every evening with Xorg > running out of swapspace. >=20 > If you've more RAM than swap, it's very possible that any process, > but especially larger ones, could cause problems like this.=20 > Fortunately, it's not too difficult to add some swap --- provided > you've some unformatted disk space available. I don't think that's the case. I did notice poorer performance while sshing into the box in the last few days. If the jdk does have a leak, that would explain it.=20 I think I'll keep an eye on the size of the java process.=20 [msoulier@kanga ~]$ top -b -d1 | grep java 1988 www 20 0 219M 34264K kserel 1:31 0.00% 0.00% java Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD0ZUJKGqCc1vIvggRAj/ZAKCD7f0rQaZSg74aqdDtbrk68F6rCACdFtsv k/Qy8xuuTxGbcvqnZVndwN0= =gkIb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 02:09:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD5816A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E7D43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADA21A3C1C; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 619E951AD6; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:15 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kevin Kinsey , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060121020915.GA47014@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060120194358.GA41039@xor.obsecurity.org> <43D154FC.9030704@daleco.biz> <20060121015729.GD19607@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060121015729.GD19607@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: out of swap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:16 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 08:57:29PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 20/01/06 Kevin Kinsey said: >=20 > > I'd almost offer "definitely more likely", as the amount of swap > > shown is less than 1/2 GB. Michael, how much RAM on this box? >=20 > [msoulier@kanga ~]$ sysctl -a | grep Memory > Virtual Memory: (Total: 720K, Active 537852K) > Real Memory: (Total: 236228K Active 123640K) > Shared Virtual Memory: (Total: 24812K Active: 11880K) > Shared Real Memory: (Total: 12136K Active: 6672K) > Free Memory Pages: 11692K >=20 > Mem: 124M Active, 25M Inact, 75M Wired, 10M Cache, 34M Buf, 768K Free > Swap: 471M Total, 67M Used, 403M Free, 14% Inuse >=20 > It's not a lot, but it's always been fine for me when running Linux as a > headless server. > > > I once set up a box with 256M RAM and 512M swap, which was > > all good && fine until I got a few extra $$ and decided to up the > > RAM to 768M. After that, it died most every evening with Xorg > > running out of swapspace. > >=20 > > If you've more RAM than swap, it's very possible that any process, > > but especially larger ones, could cause problems like this.=20 > > Fortunately, it's not too difficult to add some swap --- provided > > you've some unformatted disk space available. >=20 > I don't think that's the case. I did notice poorer performance while sshi= ng > into the box in the last few days. If the jdk does have a leak, that would > explain it.=20 While it's theoretically possible, try to assess the likelihood of this being true: the jdk is used by many users, and they don't report memory leaks. On the other hand, your system manifestly has almost no spare capacity to accomodate transient memory spikes. When this happens, you'll easily run your system out of swap. The fact that your system is *already* using 14% of swap (under presumably a "normal" workload) says that it is clearly overloaded: the instant your system starts swapping in order to accomodate its workload, performance will drop in the toilet. Kris --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0ZfKWry0BWjoQKURAu5rAKC/OeOnTVK7THFgdHgkvyKKp2XALACfYHoH aDpfQn1cGklurxl5rwJWutY= =Wfk6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 02:09:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6C116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (mail.storm.ca [209.87.239.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A8643D49 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (ppp-216-106-109-114.storm.ca [216.106.109.114]) by mail.storm.ca (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0L29lZo008123 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC8923DC6 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from msoulier@localhost) by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0L29f5b000351 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tigger.digitaltorque.ca: msoulier set sender to msoulier@digitaltorque.ca using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:41 -0500 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060121020941.GE19607@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="brEuL7wsLY8+TuWz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: understanding virtual memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:09:49 -0000 --brEuL7wsLY8+TuWz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [msoulier@kanga ~]$ sysctl -a | grep Memory Virtual Memory: (Total: 724K, Active 545156K) Real Memory: (Total: 232508K Active 124272K) Shared Virtual Memory: (Total: 24684K Active: 11880K) Shared Real Memory: (Total: 12124K Active: 6756K) Free Memory Pages: 14852K How can I have 724K of virtual memory with 545156K active? Am I reading this wrong? Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein --brEuL7wsLY8+TuWz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD0ZflKGqCc1vIvggRAp8dAJ9/PJhSnvZYcouyL4rZm3ngq9tzhQCgjb2g Bgv1J8m+qCKL9reorcTt0Qk= =qcg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --brEuL7wsLY8+TuWz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 02:10:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD4016A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2529743D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so400699wxc for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SIqEdy0eh10c+0BLWDlCzUXBRca9aBKhVoZyUhciaq+pmwb+qtjLW72GirtK/OcddXCfRelmuYjBRsMxBbIStPsPNuxYTme5TdhDN71gHuPYPpUtCTtGM0S3L7ilbwCpiuVd1pPnqqnlWKD/IxXyiGiWU+rvLNWtEt3CLvrCKDs= Received: by 10.70.17.13 with SMTP id 13mr2914605wxq; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:10:07 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <43D11B4F.90806@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43D11B4F.90806@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Can't mount existing data disk after upgrade (disklabel gone) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:10:11 -0000 On 1/20/06, Joe S wrote: > First of all, I have learned something VERY important about FreeBSD. > SAVE your DISKLABELS! > When I try to mount /dev/ad4s1a to /data, I get this error: > coruscant# mount /dev/ad4s1a /mnt > mount: /dev/ad4s1a on /mnt: incorrect super block > > How can I properly re-create the disklabel? It seems this is what I need > to do in order to get to my data. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Silly question: did you: newfs -U /dev/ad4s1a ? -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 03:51:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AFD16A420 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taosecurity@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B82043D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taosecurity@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so632891wri for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:51:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rMQgket4em7HE6dWHSJH+nuBHyLSlfUZkxMy46cB7b4AgaPUbfUKmSuX+IG3IGmpOwJPlwh/Klpy4CcUQe/o6ATg105uv7Jzfw+padwRABx4trqymXsppViLFHb56cHXNK6UJt+LKPe5IEHnEn2Me90Rl2l4zP2vXOEhvd/a4Gk= Received: by 10.65.157.4 with SMTP id j4mr2126789qbo; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.248.11 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:51:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <120ef0530601201951n69a9b7fel4b544ab816659373@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:51:46 -0500 From: Richard Bejtlich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd-update defaults and restrictions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:51:48 -0000 Gayn Winters wrote: > Bejtlich states that the KEY and the URL in the .conf file are > cooked to get updates from Colin's site, and to use the sample file "if > you trust [Colin] to securely build binary updates for you to blindly > install ..." Aside from Bejtlich's obvious tongue-in-cheek negativity > (they are both security guys after all, and Colin is the FreeBSD > security officer), are there other possible sites for updates? Hello, If you take a look at the text you're quoting, you'll notice that it's output from installing freebsd-update. I did not need to apply any "obvious tongue-in-cheek negativity" in my article -- those are Colin's words! I have the utmost respect for Colin; he's been very helpful in the community. Also, when I wrote the original article (Dec 04), Colin was not the security officer. That didn't happen until Aug 05, which is still after the date on the current article (Apr 05). For the latest info, you might like to read my article published in the Feb 06 Sys Admin magazine on Keeping FreeBSD Up-to-Date. To your questions -- I don't know of any sites beyond Colin's that provide updates at this time. If we see freebsd-update moved into the base system, I expect to see freebsd.org mirrors carrying them. It would be nice to have updates for non-i386 platforms, too. I defer to Colin for your other queries. Sincerely, Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 05:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12B116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B98043D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0L5CpP37072; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Adam Nealis" , "Graham Bentley" , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:09:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060120111248.26454.qmail@web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:26 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Adam Nealis [mailto:adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >--- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >> What do you say to the people who want to do some research before >> putting the time into installing it? > >I would suggest going to http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and >reading the >FAQ (especially section 1) and the handbook for a start. This >should give >you an idea of the approach and the level of technical awareness you >will need. > >The community and support sections should help you get a feel >for how the >OS is actually received. > And if you have questions that aren't answered there, what then? I am pointing this out because the process of asking questions on the mailing list is a legitimate means of research. Not everyone wants to just spend the time installing it and then deciding if they like it. Some want to do some research first, and that involves asking questions on the mailing list. Framing the question as a "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly legitimate. If we as the FreeBSD community cannot answer that question, then why are we wasting our time with it? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 05:59:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FC616A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:59:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045CB43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0L62bP37307; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:02:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Dick Davies" , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:58:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20060120203604.18166.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:59:12 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:36 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > > >More rambling, useless points from Ted. Whether >its written from scratch or not is irrelevant. >The point is that in order to produce a windows >driver you have to buy the dev kit, Danial, do your homework next time. This isn't true. See the following: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/ddk/orderddkcd.mspx The cost of the Microsoft DDK is for shipping and handling only. (about $15) You don't have to buy it. Of course it works best with the MS C tools. People have also written Kernel Mode Drivers under the Windows Driver Model using gcc, see the following: http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/index.html There's also 3rd parties like the following: http://www.computer-solutions.co.uk/chipdev/windriver.htm who produce software that they claim will create drivers without the DDK >and MS >doesn't pay them to do it. > My point was that if you actually spend some serious coin on some decent hardware instead of the dumpster diving you seem to be recommending, Danial, that you won't find that many problems getting drivers for UNIX systems. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 06:13:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D979116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC0343D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so417966wxc for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:13:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D0qAtwLK7YqT/c99mz888rBarAxunF8B+yYGQVM6ZFqh2q9Xtg49hAwypdPEKv4azbCrEJwqYBo31neJ3dDnCCqM3DKruexjSA0AYfxaSSTbL/GjhF2swXFcBHvlZ74C+VmHTXK3fZoROCc+ti2XBeDuPn+fKWaRPKO5oNTDVbc= Received: by 10.70.80.10 with SMTP id d10mr3153650wxb; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.57.17 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:13:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:13:00 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060120111248.26454.qmail@web86901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:13:02 -0000 > "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly legitimate. "Is FreeBSD more suitible as a desktop system with a 200mHz pentium-pro and a 4 gigabyte hard-drive than windows 3.11 on dos 6.22 on vmware on top of Solaris 10?" is perfectly legitimate. "Is FreeBSD better than Slackware?" is legitimate. "Is FreeBSD better than a generic kernel stuck onto an unknown useland being packaged by a 14-year-old AOL subscriber?" is probably legitimate. "Is FreeBSD better than *?" is not. > If we as the FreeBSD community cannot answer that question, then why > are we wasting our time with it? I think this is a false dichotomy. Either that or I'm going to die tomorrow. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 06:20:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD76F16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 496EF43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vayu@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 94371 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 06:20:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO prajipati-freebsd.prajipati-freebsd) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.106.241.223 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 06:20:43 -0000 From: Joseph Vella To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:24:56 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <43D09695.7030904@sklinks.com> <43D11E8E.5000906@mkproductions.org> In-Reply-To: <43D11E8E.5000906@mkproductions.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601202224.56412.vayu@sklinks.com> Cc: Mark Kane , Derek Ragona , Choy Kho Yee Subject: Re: Post install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:20:44 -0000 Thanks all for your help. I've got the nVidia driver and the SoundBlaster Driver installed and working. I've gone past the permission problem with the cd player in KDE. Joseph Vella From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 06:45:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE1316A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:45:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A366C43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 81832 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 06:45:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO prajipati-freebsd.prajipati-freebsd) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.106.241.223 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 06:45:33 -0000 From: Joseph Vella To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:50:01 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601202250.01792.satyam@sklinks.com> Subject: ports and packages errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:45:35 -0000 I keep getting errors in trying to install packages and ports. As an example when I try to get linuxpluginwrapper in ports I see it trying to fetch some items and not finding them. It seems like it trys in several places (but I'm not sure if it's just going on to the next item). It finally ends up with an automake not the right version error. what I did was su, then cd /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper && make install clean So next I tried to get it as a package: pkg_add -r linuxpluginwrapper This retreived several packages successfully but failed at 6 of them. This same scenario has happened to 2 other packages I've tried to receive. I'm pretty sure I have a good internet connection as I have downloaded several other multi MB items through http. Am I just having bad luck with servers being down or am I doing something wrong? Is it unusual that some componants of ports and packages are not available? Also, where did the ones that were fetched go? Do I need to remove them, will they be overwritten if I try again later and there are new ones available? Joseph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 07:03:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A21716A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:03:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C3F243D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from satyam@sklinks.com) Received: (qmail 72272 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO prajipati-freebsd.prajipati-freebsd) (varuna@sbcglobal.net@69.106.241.223 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0000 From: Joseph Vella To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:07:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> <200601201719.29153.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <755cb9fc0601201525x6892a40dte1b50f271c6958dd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0601201525x6892a40dte1b50f271c6958dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601202307.46275.satyam@sklinks.com> Subject: No openGL, glxgears, glxinfo - libm.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:03:19 -0000 OpenGL apps won't run. glxgears and glxinfo give me the same error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.3" not found, required by "libGL.so.1" I have the nVidia driver, I have renderaccel set to true in xorg.conf. Transparancy and shadows work in KDE with no performance issues. Any ideas where do I go from here? Joseph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 07:25:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663CD16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:25:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84243D48 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:25:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k0L7TUP37688; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:25:51 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:25:57 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >illoai@gmail.com >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:13 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >> "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly >legitimate. > >"Is FreeBSD more suitible as a desktop system with >a 200mHz pentium-pro and a 4 gigabyte hard-drive >than windows 3.11 on dos 6.22 on vmware on top >of Solaris 10?" is perfectly legitimate. >"Is FreeBSD better than Slackware?" is legitimate. >"Is FreeBSD better than a generic kernel stuck onto >an unknown useland being packaged by a 14-year-old >AOL subscriber?" is probably legitimate. >"Is FreeBSD better than *?" is not. > Anyone asking the question has an idea of what "?" is, so your next logical question in preparing an answer is "what version of linux" This is implied, of course. >> If we as the FreeBSD community cannot answer that question, then why >> are we wasting our time with it? > >I think this is a false dichotomy. Either that or I'm going to >die tomorrow. > I can answer that question for me. My question to you is, if you cannot tell me why you think FreeBSD is better than any Linux distribution, then why are you bothering with it? Do you seek out inferior products to use, perchance? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 08:30:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24CE16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094E843D53 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so434250wxc for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Su7h2GNfxsShndTP+UwPR9wtXe1WpLlOe8wta2zbodg3Wm4l8QXAvN8vCCrF2/kxteJeacWuyOxCGwHP1PcnUskJYJhPsXHsQFHBhd/82mgVdVsPJUUNOdwTiVPRbbvnnS8JfVa5tIEcux4Asc5pOwT3FW5qq375gtSZ9s62ELQ= Received: by 10.70.75.13 with SMTP id x13mr3253379wxa; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.9 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:30:01 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton To: Ask FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Best time of day/week to cvsup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:30:05 -0000 For example, what time of day, and the day of the week, is typically the best time to sync up with 6-STABLE or 7-CURRENT, to minimize dealing with untested new commits. Same goes for the ports system. Are there any cvs usage stats or web server usage stats for the FreeBSD project? I'd like to setup an automated package building system for 6.0-RELEASE and 6-STABE. -- Please sign the native Flash player for FreeBSD petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 08:33:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8017416A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:33:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7B043D6E for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480CC96.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.204.150]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0L8XCBe011550 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:33:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AD6E379FD8 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:33:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26789-03 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:33:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 5C5F9E379FD0; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:33:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:33:11 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060121083311.GA27807@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <755cb9fc0601201459v643bf464i892ef3efc68dc788@mail.gmail.com> <200601201719.29153.don.hinton@vanderbilt.edu> <755cb9fc0601201525x6892a40dte1b50f271c6958dd@mail.gmail.com> <200601202307.46275.satyam@sklinks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200601202307.46275.satyam@sklinks.com> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: No openGL, glxgears, glxinfo - libm.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:33:16 -0000 On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:07:46PM -0800, Joseph Vella wrote: > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.3" not found, required by > "libGL.so.1" You have to install misc/compat5x from ports and add compat5x_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf. bye, Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 10:40:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:40:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3CA43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.5/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0LAe43t073187 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:04 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 165 Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (grobner3.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.120]) by riemann.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.10/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0LAe3ER045246 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k0LAe2fD012014 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:02 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by grobner3.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0LAe2wf012013 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:02 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060121104002.GA11499@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.54 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:40:04 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 43D20F84.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Subject: Bi-Opteron memory problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:40:06 -0000 Hi all I've some strange problem with my single-core bi-proc (Opetron 248) When I try to install FreeBSD 6.0 -i 386 I can't have all memory. When the system boot (after recompiling kernel) I've see ~1 Go memory above 3 Go is ignored (not exactly something like that) on boot. If I put some options MAXMEM=... the kernel don't boot (more simple :-(( ) But if I install FreeBSD 6.0-amd 64 I've another strange problem (not very important but...) FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 20 17:50:42 CET 2006 root@isis5.edcsm.jussieu.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ISIS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 (2210.19-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20f51 Stepping = 1 Features=0x78bfbff Features2=0x1 AMD Features=0xe2500800,LM,3DNow+,3DNow> real memory = 5368709120 (5120 MB) avail memory = 4115021824 (3924 MB) How can He detect 5Go when I've just 4 Go in the BIOS ? It's HP Proliant DL 145 G2 with 4 Go of ram. I think is something in the bios but well I've try many combinaison nothing work (well no exactly true, because with some combinaison the kernel see only... 2Go...) Anyone have see this problem before ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Tel : 01 44 27 86 88 FAX : 01 44 27 69 35 GSM(UFR) : 06 85 05 58 43 Heure local/Local time: Sat Jan 21 11:34:47 CET 2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 10:57:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A6F16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D54643D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LAv5Ja023573 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:57:05 +0200 Received: from mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LAv5gr014645 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:57:05 +0200 Received: from poseidon (ppp1-9.internet-hellas.forthnet.gr [213.16.170.9]) by mx-in-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LAuoMD001542 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:57:03 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-02.forthnet.gr from=spap@avrolymos.com; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <200601211057.k0LAuoMD001542@mx-in-02.forthnet.gr> From: "Spiros Papadopoulos" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:54:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcYed2xwNDWNm71CTuWvNe2ulJZEFQ== Subject: 3com mini-pci modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:13 -0000 Hi all, For the next couple of weeks I will be with my DELL c810 laptop at a place where I can only have 56k connection to the internet. :( My laptop has a 3com mini-pci modem (combo with a 3com 10/100 Ethernet Adapter). Well in the past I tried to make this device working, but since I got broadband, I had no problems running FreeBSD and connecting through the NIC so I had forgotten about it. I have asked people with knowledge and told me you cannot connect with internal modems (or at least it is hard) so it is better if you get an external one. Is this right?? In order to send you output like dmesg or pciconf -lv or anything else I will have to write them down or use a floppy or something else to transfer to windows which I am using now...You see, if I cannot make the modem to work I cannot connect to the internet using FreeBSD. But I will do if is needed. Any help?? Spiros Papadopoulos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 10:58:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D3016A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from smtp110.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp110.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2C6643D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:58:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 89855 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 10:58:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aaHaAFJ9rtECYketMYyrjdgGmcOyipVKqsU7pOvB9s87J3SE63FQmQnK3EtP2nudaprXwEKf6Uh9ACj0Ku4xfcNAnNrlR8CLyg1DgZfkaWeELVXMQ5/q9WNaD2wM9Q3GyTP9BSudolVmctC1/raxj2FQHEpwnfyIadzh7YsA6ys= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (adamnealis@84.13.2.254 with plain) by smtp110.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 10:58:45 -0000 Message-ID: <43D213DE.6080604@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:58:38 +0000 From: Adam Nealis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20060114) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Graham Bentley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:58:47 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Adam Nealis [mailto:adamnealis@yahoo.co.uk] >>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux >> >> >>--- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> >>>What do you say to the people who want to do some research before >>>putting the time into installing it? >> >>I would suggest going to http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and >>reading the >>FAQ (especially section 1) and the handbook for a start. This >>should give >>you an idea of the approach and the level of technical awareness you >>will need. >> >>The community and support sections should help you get a feel >>for how the >>OS is actually received. >> > > > And if you have questions that aren't answered there, what then? Then come to this list, or approach some other forum that looks like it might be able to help. > I am pointing this out because the process of asking questions on > the mailing list is a legitimate means of research. Not everyone I agree. > wants to just spend the time installing it and then deciding if they > like it. Some want to do some research first, and that involves > asking questions on the mailing list. Framing the question as a > "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly legitimate. I disagree with that. The guidelines for using this list recommend searching it first for answers. As you probably know, a fairly standard guideline in internet mailing lists is for newcomers to "lurk". I have seen the subject of this thread many, many times. It is reasonably assumed that responsible internet users know to read the guidelines first. The idea is to both reduce repetition of questions, and to help the newcomer/ lurker to determine if this question has already been answered to their satisfaction faster than by posting to the list. > If we as the FreeBSD community cannot answer that question, then why > are we wasting our time with it? The question is too general. There are too many answers. It depends on context and depends on what one views as "better". It is very _subjective_. Adam. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 12:22:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8374916A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:22:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A87243D48 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:22:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:52646 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0HlT-0002rE-LG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:22:44 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:22:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcYehVm9cFGP9SW/SLimM7b+I6BM+g== Message-Id: <20060121122245.8A87243D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: panic on 5.4 SMP kernel when jailed apache is used heavily X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:22:46 -0000 Hi all, I upgraded a 5.3 system to 5.4 both with SMP kernels, I'm running 6 jails on a dual xeon 1.26 hp rackmount. When apache (both 1.3 and 2.0) is being used heavily the system panics. With a 5.4 GENERIC kernel or a 5.3 SMP kernel this behaviour does not happen and the system is stable. Does anyone have an idea ? Or should I post this to bugs ? Regards, Ruben dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May 8 10:21:06 UTC 2005 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1266MHz (1266.72-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095943680 (1998 MB) MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) unknown: I/O range not supported can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0.ISA_.SIO_.LPT_ - AE_AML_INVALID_RESOURCE_TYPE Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1208-0x120b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0x1800-0x183f mem 0xfb100000-0xfb1fffff,0xfb001000-0xfb001fff irq 22 at device 2.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:6e:11:b8:de pci0: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) fxp1: port 0x1840-0x187f mem 0xfb200000-0xfb2fffff,0xfb003000-0xfb003fff irq 23 at device 8.0 on pci0 miibus1: on fxp1 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:30:6e:11:b8:df isab0: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1880-0x188f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfb004000-0xfb004fff irq 9 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 2.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 amr0: mem 0xfd400000-0xfd7fffff irq 16 at device 2.1 on pci1 amr0: Firmware C.02.03, BIOS B.02.03, 16MB RAM sym0: <1010-33> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xfd000000-0xfd001fff,0xfd002000-0xfd0023ff irq 24 at device 5.0 on pci1 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. sym1: <1010-33> port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xfd004000-0xfd005fff,0xfd002400-0xfd0027ff irq 25 at device 5.1 on pci1 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 orm0: at iomem 0xcb000-0xcbfff,0xca800-0xcafff,0xc0000-0xca7ff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1266717775 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 34731MB (71129088 sectors) RAID 1 (optimal) ses0 at amr0 bus 0 target 11 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device Mounting root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s1a IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 12:29:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B9C16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:29:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrb@bmyster.com) Received: from loqtis.bmyster.com (ns1.bmyster.com [65.175.135.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB74243D55 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:29:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrb@bmyster.com) Received: from www.bmyster.com (localhost.bmyster.com [127.0.0.1]) by loqtis.bmyster.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0LCTZPc057028 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:29:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Brent" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:29:30 -0500 Message-Id: <20060121122352.M96626@bmyster.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 24.75.245.190 (mrb) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Freebsd 5.4 ftp error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:29:43 -0000 Hello, Im using 5.4 for web hosting ..everything seems to be working fine with the exception of ftp. As a normal user of the top level domain..I can log into the box with ftp. However when my domain users try to login they get the following errors. Connecting to kipemusic.com STATUS:> Connecting to kipemusic.com (ip = 65.175.135.37) STATUS:> Socket connected. Waiting for welcome message... 220 loqtis.bmyster.com FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. STATUS:> Connected. Authenticating... COMMAND:> USER kipemusic 530 User kipemusic access denied. ERROR:> User ID not accepted. ERROR:> Can't login. Disconnecting... STATUS:> Disconnect: Saturday 07:27:15 01-21-2006 I never had this issue with my servers that run the 4.x tree of Freebsd. Is there something i missed ? any and all help is very appreciated -- Brent --RIP Brother Dime-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 12:56:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8102016A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [67.53.234.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DEB43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from coors.sixcompanies.com (coors.sixcompanies.com [10.53.234.5]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.13.5+Sun/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LCuD1w013695; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:56:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060121065113.0127cef8@sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:56:13 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: slowness on 6.0 with apache2.2 (from src) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:56:15 -0000 I installed 6.0 and cvsup'd to the security fixes and rebuilt world. All went well. Then i installed apache2.2 from src (not ports) with a basic: ./configure --enable-so --enable-ssl It installed and runs. However, here is my issue: My main web page has 1 image per se. However, it is comprised of 32 little images... What I am seeing is that each image comes down 1 by 1 SLOWLY and apache2.2 spawns tons of child processes! Under OpenBSD/Solaris, I see a completely different thing...the image comes up instantly and apache only spawned 1 extra child. I used the SAME config files on all 3 OSs and the same hardware/drives/etc. This by the way is all over my internal LAN...so it never hits the internet. With all the variables being equal - but the OS. Since things work excellent on OpenBSD/Solaris, what is it that freebsd is not doing (or doing differently)? Any thoughts on this? -JD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 13:28:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50BA16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (mx.go2.pl [193.17.41.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E3243D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from [192.168.22.67] (npb47.uz.zgora.pl [212.109.130.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E6E13786E for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:28:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43D236F2.1020704@o2.pl> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:28:18 +0100 From: cblasius User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: How I can create UFS file system on DVD-RAM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:28:21 -0000 Hello! How I can create UFS file system on DVD-RAM? Could someone help me, please. I'm beginner on FreeBSD. I use FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. Thanks in advance, cblasius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 13:50:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E9C16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40D843D48 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:50:38 +0100 id 00039831.43D23C2E.0000032F Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:50:38 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060121135037.GA807@arwen.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: atapicam load question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:50:40 -0000 Hi, When I "kldload atapicam" the permissions in /etc/devfs.conf for cd0 are _not_ honored. (I want cd0 to have 0666) When I put atapicam_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf the permissions are set the way I want them. I would like to make the choice for atapicam later if posssible, so my question is: why are the permissions not honored by devfs.conf when it creates a /dev/cd0 device after a "kldload" ? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 14:26:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D8116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579F043D49 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:26:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 13636 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 14:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.182.119]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2006 14:26:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:26:11 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: dick hoogendijk Message-ID: <20060121152611.1ff99c47@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060121135037.GA807@arwen.nagual.st> References: <20060121135037.GA807@arwen.nagual.st> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_X0DM22UrJRwfmaKhWaJT+K1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: atapicam load question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:26:23 -0000 --Sig_X0DM22UrJRwfmaKhWaJT+K1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dick hoogendijk wrote: > When I "kldload atapicam" the permissions in /etc/devfs.conf for cd0 > are _not_ honored. (I want cd0 to have 0666) > When I put atapicam_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf the permissions > are set the way I want them. >=20 > I would like to make the choice for atapicam later if posssible, so my > question is: why are the permissions not honored by devfs.conf when it > creates a /dev/cd0 device after a "kldload" ? /etc/devfs.conf is for boot-time configuration only. What you're looking for is /etc/devfs.rules. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_X0DM22UrJRwfmaKhWaJT+K1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0kSOjV8GA4rMKUQRApQNAJ9pAAKi8Vju/UPWPfjtwX+RW5+rHACfULc/ Ps/cbC8cSHIoECOE/cYi5Zw= =Y8qT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_X0DM22UrJRwfmaKhWaJT+K1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 14:40:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A1416A420 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shoesoft@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E978443D48 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shoesoft@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Jan 2006 14:40:52 -0000 Received: from h081217094006.dyn.cm.kabsi.at (EHLO h081217094006.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) [81.217.94.6] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 15:40:52 +0100 X-Authenticated: #16703784 From: Stefan Ehmann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:40:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1137854452.1122.6.camel@taxman.pepperland> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: automatic acoustic management supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:40:54 -0000 Is there a way to enable automatic acoustic management? atacontrol cap states that the drive is capable but I couldn't find a way to enable it. Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 0/0x00 SMART yes no microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management yes no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management yes no 254/0xFE 128/0x80 Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 15:19:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6481316A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2DE143D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 61710 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 15:19:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:thread-index; b=2JZgV1W0KMh5lPY6PchEW5a4VX/gJHnp5y3+mxFOJ+4KECo0ZS4isCrCljZ75QhzbNR4Ft1/YymNO8mdzDFkLCNLYwZ7FpYg5LZFXD4sJyOBVFpURUCP2X3pfuxwaMXcz+bVLbO1/c+EpWrToKZxi4epY7sJnrKRll0L7x6/KvM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 15:19:53 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:18:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060121122245.8A87243D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcYehVm9cFGP9SW/SLimM7b+I6BM+gAGDMpA Message-Id: <20060121151953.D2DE143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: panic on 5.4 SMP kernel when jailed apache is used heavily X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:19:54 -0000 > > Hi all, > > > > I upgraded a 5.3 system to 5.4 both with SMP kernels, I'm > running 6 jails on a dual xeon 1.26 hp rackmount. When apache > (both 1.3 and 2.0) is being used heavily the system panics. > With a 5.4 GENERIC kernel or a 5.3 SMP kernel this behaviour > does not happen and the system is stable. Does anyone have an > idea ? Or should I post this to bugs ? > > > > Regards, > > Ruben > Most likely you need to update the src and recompile: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c.diff?r1=1.494 .2.9&r2=1.494.2.10&f=h The link above is where the problem occurs once you enable SMP Kernel you'll receive Fatal Trap Error. This has been discussed at: http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/7 57e3350f8847edd/15c076d8db0eba64?lnk=st&q=tamouh+freebsd+5.4+kernel&rnum=2#1 5c076d8db0eba64 Good luck! Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 15:59:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337B016A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:59:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A25A43D4C for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:59:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (patr530b-0071.otenet.gr [62.103.226.71]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id k0LFwxu8014007; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:59:00 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5AFBE118D4; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:36:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:36:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20060121153630.GA1797@flame.pc> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best time of day/week to cvsup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:59:04 -0000 On 2006-01-21 02:30, Nikolas Britton wrote: > For example, what time of day, and the day of the week, is typically > the best time to sync up with 6-STABLE or 7-CURRENT, to minimize > dealing with untested new commits. CURRENT is, by definition, a fair bit unpredictable. Unless, of course you track freebsd commits and freebsd-current. But even then, updating is not always `safe' -- for some definition of `safe'. For instance, after the update of malloc() by Jason Evans to his new, improved version, many programs started crashing in 7.0-CURRENT because of bugs in those programs. I usually try to keep up with the mail of freebsd-cvs-src and the posts of freebsd-current and update my systems manually to 7.0-CURRENT when I'm relatively sure that things are `stable enough' for my work. Having said that about CURRENT, I'm sure that 6.0-STABLE is quite safe most of the time, because changes don't just get rushed in to the RELENG_6 branch. Not having a steady stream of commits flowing in means that most of the time CVSUP'ing a 6-STABLE system will pull in changes to manpages, system documentation and the occasional security fix. So, it's much safer to pick any random time and update a RELENG_6 system. > Same goes for the ports system. Are there any cvs usage stats or web > server usage stats for the FreeBSD project? > > I'd like to setup an automated package building system for 6.0-RELEASE > and 6-STABE. Colin Percival does this already for `security/freebsd-update'. He may have many good ideas to share, so you should definitely try to contact him :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 16:47:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B25716A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:47:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B019B43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:47:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060121164725.PZTI14388.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:47:25 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Spiros Papadopoulos" , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:47:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200601211057.k0LAuoMD001542@mx-in-02.forthnet.gr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: 3com mini-pci modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:47:27 -0000 Your internal PCI modem maybe a winmodem and native FreeBSD does not support this. Internal modems are manufactured for two target markets, MS/Windows and every thing else. Winmodems are cheep because the hardware controller function is handled by the software you have to install into windows. This hardware controller function is contained in a chip on the modem circuit board. Winmodems are missing this chip and have a replacement chip that directs the modem to use driver software running in the windows system to perform the controller function. The most common replacement chip is manufactured by Lucent. There are many versions of this Lucent chip each version needing a different software driver version. Up until version 4.4, FBSD did not have any solution to using Winmodems, but with the release of 4.4 the ports collection contains the "Linux Winmodem 'ltmdm' driver" which was ported to FBSD. This port is very poorly documented, only works with a limited number of Lucent chip version, and is unreliable. Your whole internet connection is managed by your modem and trying to shoe horn a modem specially manufactured for the MS/Windows operating system into FBSD is not the way to achieve a satisfactory dialup connection. To summarize. For the FBSD newbe who does not know how to install a port, should use an external serial modem for connecting their FBSD box to the internet. This method works using the default generic kernel, creates no irq conflicts with the motherboard bios, and will work right out of the box so to say. All serial modems use the PC's serial ports' controller built into the motherboard. This has been the standard since PCs first came out Trying to use a PCI internal winmodem and the Linux Winmodem 'ltmdm' driver port is not easy. The 'ltmdm' driver port installations instructions are so inadequate as to make it darn near imposable to get the ltmdm port working on your modem. Its up to you if you want to try the ltmdm port, but using am external modem is a sure thing. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Spiros Papadopoulos Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:55 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3com mini-pci modem Hi all, For the next couple of weeks I will be with my DELL c810 laptop at a place where I can only have 56k connection to the internet. :( My laptop has a 3com mini-pci modem (combo with a 3com 10/100 Ethernet Adapter). Well in the past I tried to make this device working, but since I got broadband, I had no problems running FreeBSD and connecting through the NIC so I had forgotten about it. I have asked people with knowledge and told me you cannot connect with internal modems (or at least it is hard) so it is better if you get an external one. Is this right?? In order to send you output like dmesg or pciconf -lv or anything else I will have to write them down or use a floppy or something else to transfer to windows which I am using now...You see, if I cannot make the modem to work I cannot connect to the internet using FreeBSD. But I will do if is needed. Any help?? Spiros Papadopoulos _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 17:21:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC9C16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D8743D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1F0MQv-0000ck-6U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <001201c61eaf$28d81e00$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:21:44 -0500 Organization: The Net Now Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Dell DRAC QUestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:21:50 -0000 Hi all, I have three servers with Dell remote access cards. One of them work fine. It is running FBSD5.4, and when I log onto the DRAC card I can acces the console fine. The other two, I can only access the console up untill the point that the login: prompt appears. After that, I can't. I have the bios setting the same for all three cards, per the Dell (DRAC) instructions. Does anyone have experience with these and pehaps let me know what (if any) FBSD setting to review? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 17:30:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C0316A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:30:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrb@bmyster.com) Received: from loqtis.bmyster.com (ns1.bmyster.com [65.175.135.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B4043D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:30:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrb@bmyster.com) Received: from www.bmyster.com (localhost.bmyster.com [127.0.0.1]) by loqtis.bmyster.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0LHUc8P012747 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Brent" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:30:33 -0500 Message-Id: <20060121172514.M60738@bmyster.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 24.75.245.190 (mrb) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: strange error with NFS on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:30:42 -0000 I have a 4.11 server runing nfs server and a nfs client running freebsd 5.4 ive setup both according to the freebsd handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html When i go to mount the nfs share onto the client by doing loqtis# mount 10.10.25.2:/user3 /user3 i get the following output [udp] 10.10.25.2:/user3: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered what does this mean ? any help is greatly appreciated -- Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 17:55:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A808116A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA6A43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:55:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [192.168.200.2] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0LHsrlC067652; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:54:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <43D2756B.3030208@401.cx> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:54:51 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zettel@acm.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:55:02 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Maybe it's just me but the idea of a bunch of English speakers > sitting around and debating whether or not to permit foreign > languages on the mailing list is a bit like a bunch of men sitting > around and debating whether or not to legalize abortion. > > It's an issue that so obviously does not affect the discussors > that it's incredible any of them would believe it possibly affects > them in any way whatsoever. > > Ted > Why is that? Because we have put down the effort of learning the de facto standard language on the internet, we no longer may have an opinion about the ones that haven't? Or did you just assume that everyone who speaks english is from an english-speaking country? I'm swedish. I (naturally) prefer to speak swedish. But, I speak 2 other languages without problems and can make myself understood in a few more. Still, I would never dream of posting to a mailinglist in any other language then english, unless otherwise requested. There are plenty of mailinglists and supportforums available in almost every language you can imagine. There is no need to increase the noise on @questions with posts that perhaps 1 or 2 percent of the subscribers can understand. -- R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 17:05:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B436816A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:05:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4539743D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 4099 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2006 17:05:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bHTk50whmAFYIENdJBn4GAAE9Zou8C2RysvGeu0ufiTTgfTQaZhchqTnjjcOf5IaJguLAavlN419AzU0wPqfzX29Q9V32nKA2kfUmmhMp4YYgCeTR42kwupnjYjn+Pxwwxr6w0s9dy5QK3XLBWwBpPkn+D5DV9ukYvsKyzAqHV4= ; Message-ID: <20060121170525.4097.qmail@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.141.141.1] by web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:05:25 PST Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jose Jesus Ortega To: questions@freeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:09:50 +0000 Cc: Subject: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:05:26 -0000 re-installed freeBSD it with AfterStep but for kde last time I entered the command echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc that way "kdm" or "startx" can start it up, but what command do I add this time to start AfterStep? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 18:10:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6148316A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:10:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7443D53 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([66.130.198.54]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0ITG004T1FTQ6I40@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:10:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:10:38 -0500 From: Nicolas Blais To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200601211310.38269.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart126455167.fDGb05XMVB; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Subject: C/C++ call to detect cpu? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:10:42 -0000 --nextPart126455167.fDGb05XMVB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Other than 'grep'ing dmesg, is there a way to know the current cpu such as = a=20 struct with the machine's cpu and cpu feature (kinda like a time_t struct)? Portability is not really an issue (though I would be nice if it could run = on=20 BSD/linux systems). =46or example, on one of my systems (from dmesg): CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (2493.04-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x20ff0 Stepping =3D 0 =20 =46eatures=3D0x78bfbff Features2=3D0x1 AMD Features=3D0xe2500800 AMD Features2=3D0x1 I would need AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (2493.04-MHz 686-class CPU) = or=20 similar. Thanks, Nicolas. =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jan 21 11:33:22 EST 2006 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? (updated 16 Nov 05) : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart126455167.fDGb05XMVB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBD0nke4wTBlvcsbJURAgeSAKChhGSc5d/5iCeq0DoYNrYToLQu1QCgi25X v915kyYKzrNcltLI9c4ctWM= =FZK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart126455167.fDGb05XMVB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 18:24:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD34B16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from mail.alkar.net (mail.alkar.net [195.248.191.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A5043D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:24:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from [213.227.193.75] (HELO [192.168.0.178]) by mail.alkar.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.9) with ESMTP id 429172730; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:24:29 +0200 Message-ID: <43D298D5.6080005@oxygen.az> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:25:57 +0000 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Jesus Ortega References: <20060121170525.4097.qmail@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060121170525.4097.qmail@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:24:32 -0000 Jose Jesus Ortega wrote: >re-installed freeBSD it with AfterStep but for kde >last time I entered the command >echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc >that way "kdm" or "startx" can start it up, but what >command do I add this time to start AfterStep? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Try : echo "exec afterstep" > ~/.xinitrc and then: startx to enter AfterStep window manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 18:29:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2B16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A5843D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spap@avrolymos.com) Received: from mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LITrmB024591; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:29:53 +0200 Received: from mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (mx-in-04.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.163]) by mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LITrSH032507; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:29:53 +0200 Received: from poseidon (ppp3-221.internet-hellas.forthnet.gr [213.16.172.221]) by mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0LGU8YK006479; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:30:14 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-04.forthnet.gr from=spap@avrolymos.com; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-Id: <200601211630.k0LGU8YK006479@mx-in-04.forthnet.gr> From: "Spiros Papadopoulos" To: "'Jose Jesus Ortega'" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:27:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcYeteb+bWGT3k04RVyAq4w3AYLFuwAAU8mA In-Reply-To: <20060121170525.4097.qmail@web82001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:29:56 -0000 I think you startx and then you choose the interface you want to start in the login page, (small drop down list in the bottom right... I think). However there must be more ways to do it but I don't know about a specific command! I haven't use Afterstep, but I 've heard of it. Aren't there information in a manual or documentation? Spiros P. Jose Jesus Ortega wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jose Jesus Ortega > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:05 PM > To: questions@freeBSD.org > Subject: help > > re-installed freeBSD it with AfterStep but for kde > last time I entered the command > echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc > that way "kdm" or "startx" can start it up, but what > command do I add this time to start AfterStep? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 18:30:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E51716A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D5043D5A for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from moria.endor.swagman.org ([213.113.4.147] [213.113.4.147]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20060121183003.CCDC2008.mxfep02.bredband.com@moria.endor.swagman.org>; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:30:03 +0100 Received: from rivendell (rivendell.endor.swagman.org [192.168.10.10]) by moria.endor.swagman.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF74F1141A; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:28:27 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <008801c61eb8$b5cec300$0a0aa8c0@endor.swagman.org> From: "Reko Turja" To: , "J.D. Bronson" References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060121065113.0127cef8@sixcompanies.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:30:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Cc: Subject: Re: slowness on 6.0 with apache2.2 (from src) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:30:08 -0000 From: "J.D. Bronson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: slowness on 6.0 with apache2.2 (from src) > What I am seeing is that each image comes down 1 by 1 SLOWLY and > apache2.2 spawns tons of child processes! > Under OpenBSD/Solaris, I see a completely different thing...the image > comes up instantly and apache only spawned 1 extra child. > > I used the SAME config files on all 3 OSs and the same > hardware/drives/etc. This by the way is all over my internal LAN...so > it never hits the internet. > > With all the variables being equal - but the OS. Hardware arch? > Since things work excellent on OpenBSD/Solaris, what is it that > freebsd is not doing (or doing differently)? > > Any thoughts on this? Had some problems myself on Ultra10 before dumping libc_r completely and changing to other threading libraries. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 18:57:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9816A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5AC43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:57:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so662703wra for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uHz5NHpQaqFM8Est46pBwp/ejO1RZhU0hk5NZT15RcrWJA6/JVDS73uvlGLm4aLpK/Ca+WabyMitQJQb5FanKD8YJqJc0Xk2EOGrzbHm2Fokw6GMORJ4mGeTi4/6KyUWvl29SZGJz4JLD0jS2ZW1LEF3UJ32dNpKw8wn9WNwj78= Received: by 10.65.230.13 with SMTP id h13mr2202234qbr; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:57:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:57:39 +0100 From: Jona Joachim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: user accounts messed up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaj13@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:57:41 -0000 SGkhCkkgZGlkIHNvbWV0aGluZyBxdWl0ZSBzdHVwaWQuLi4KSSBpbnN0YWxsZWQgcG9zdGdyZXNx bCBmcm9tIHBvcnRzIGFuZCBjcmVhdGVkIGFuIHVucHJpdmlsZWdlZCB1c2VyCmFjY291bnQgZm9y IGl0LiBJIHdhbnRlZCB0byBpbnN0YWxsIHRoZSBkYXRhYmFzZSBpbiAvdmFyL3Bnc3FsIGFuZAp3 YW50ZWQgdG8gY2hvd24gdGhlIGZvbGRlciB0byB0aGUgdW5wcml2aWxlZ2VkIHVzZXIuClRvIGRv IHRoaXMsIEkgZW50ZXJlZCB0aGUgZm9sbG93aW5nIGFzIHJvb3Q6IGNob3duIC1SIC92YXIvcGdz cWwvCkFzIHRoaXMgY29tbWFuZCB0b29rIG1vcmUgdGhhbiB0d28gc2Vjb25kcyBJIHByZXN1bWVk IGNob3duIGhhZApmb2xsb3dlZCAuLiBhbmQgc28gSSBoaXQgQ3RybC1DLiBBZnRlciBoYXZpbmcg ZG9uZSB0aGlzIEkgdHJpZWQgdG8Kc3dpdGNoIHRvIHRoZSB1bnByaXZpbGVnZWQgdXNlciBhY2Nv dW50IHdpdGggc3UgYW5kIGl0IHNhaWQgc29tZXRoaW5nCmxpa2UgInNldHVpZCBub3QgcnVubmlu ZyIuIEFmdGVyIGhhdmluZyB0cmllZCB0byByZWNvdmVyIGZyb20gdGhpcwpzaXR1YXRpb24gd2l0 aG91dCBzdWNjZXNzIEkgZGVjaWRlZCB0byByZWJvb3QgdGhlIHN5c3RlbS4gTm93IEkgY2FuJ3QK bG9naW4gdG8gYW55IHVzZXIgYWNjb3VudCBhbnltb3JlLCBub3QgZXZlbiByb290LiBJIGFtIHRv bGQgdGhlCnBhc3N3b3JkIGlzIG5vdCBjb3JyZWN0LiBJIHRyaWVkIHRvIGJvb3QgaW4gc2luZ2xl IHVzZXIgbW9kZSwgbW91bnQKL3VzciBhbmQgY2hhbmdlIHRoZSByb290IHBhc3N3b3JkIHdpdGgg cGFzc3dkIGJ1dCBJIGFtIGRlbmllZApwZXJtaXNzaW9uIHRvIGNoYW5nZSBtYXN0ZXIucGFzc3dk LiBJcyBpdCBwb3NzaWJsZSB0aGF0IHRoZSB1c2VyCmRhdGFiYXNlIGlzIGNvcnJ1cHQ/IEkgd291 bGQgYmUgZ2xhZCBpZiBhbnlvbmUgd2FzIGFibGUgdG8gaGVscCBtZS4KR3JlZXRpbmdzLCBKb25h Cg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 19:24:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C37216A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:24:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from rekin18.go2.pl (rekin24.go2.pl [193.17.41.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C156443D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:24:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cblasius@o2.pl) Received: from poczta.o2.pl (r25 [127.0.0.1]) by rekin18.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB3E9805D for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:24:40 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Cichy_Blazej?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:24:40 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: o2.pl WebMail v5.28 X-Originator: 84.40.169.29 Message-Id: <20060121192440.9BB3E9805D@rekin18.go2.pl> Subject: Cannot compile: ports/math/scilab - what is wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:24:45 -0000 Hello ! I have some problem with compiling: ports/math/scilab. I use FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. I obtain the following error: ===> scilab-3.1.1_1 depends on executable: pvm - found ===> scilab-3.1.1_1 depends on executable: wish8.4 - found ===> scilab-3.1.1_1 depends on executable: sabcmd - not found ===> Verifying install for sabcmd in /usr/ports/textproc/sablotron ===> Building for Sablot-1.0.2 Making all in src gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/textproc/sablotron/work/Sablot-1.0.2/src' Making all in engine gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/textproc/sablotron/work/Sablot-1.0.2/src/engine' if /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=compile --tag=CXX c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../autocfg -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT encoding.lo -MD -MP -MF ".deps/encoding.Tpo" -c -o encoding.lo encoding.cpp; \ then mv -f ".deps/encoding.Tpo" ".deps/encoding.Plo"; else rm -f ".deps/encoding.Tpo"; exit 1; fi c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../autocfg -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT encoding.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/encoding.Tpo -c encoding.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/encoding.o encoding.cpp: In member function `Bool Recoder::conv(Situation&, ConvInfo*, const char*&, size_t&, char*&, size_t&, EncResult&)': encoding.cpp:285: error: invalid conversion from `char**' to `const char**' encoding.cpp:285: error: initializing argument 2 of `size_t libiconv(void*, const char**, size_t*, char**, size_t*)' gmake[2]: *** [encoding.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/sablotron/work/Sablot-1.0.2/src/engine' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/sablotron/work/Sablot-1.0.2/src' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/sablotron. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/scilab. Please for help. cblasius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 19:55:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EA716A424 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:55:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from romeotheriault@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205EA43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from romeotheriault@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so667161wra for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=NE3oTRcS/YNeuomSkJZ2L2j/OKue5Om+J0XZnlZdfcf8ItL9YPT/ksUe+Cpob/AMzJI1W2YF1GkGUwKghU6GLc0L9a2/ne5KgekA4c3v3Zue6+wm+lneZGHY4tE7oN+htlOxLA4mRwNht0eDIaYq/2V13OTNAD/AB64SPf6PqcA= Received: by 10.54.120.12 with SMTP id s12mr2548289wrc; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [66.231.218.96]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 45sm3576002wri.2006.01.21.11.54.58; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <57AFBEFE-F075-463F-B131-5BEF44F85583@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Romeo Theriault Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:54:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: mysql with linuxthreads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:55:00 -0000 I've read alot about FreeBsd 5.x series being so much faster with mysql when it's built with linuxthreads. Is this still true for Freebsd 6.x. If so how do I build mysql with linuxthreads? How do I know what the options are when I build any package for that matter? Thank you romeo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 20:33:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5003B16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0169977992@simone.iecc.com) Received: from xuxa.iecc.com (xuxa.iecc.com [208.31.42.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE5A243D55 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from prvs=johnl=0169977992@simone.iecc.com) Received: (qmail 26303 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 20:33:03 -0000 Received: from simone.iecc.com (208.31.42.47) by mail2.iecc.com with QMQP; 21 Jan 2006 20:33:03 -0000 Date: 21 Jan 2006 20:33:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20060121203306.25121.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200601211310.38269.nb_root@videotron.ca> Organization: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: nb_root@videotron.ca Subject: Re: C/C++ call to detect cpu? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:05 -0000 >Other than 'grep'ing dmesg, is there a way to know the current cpu such as a >struct with the machine's cpu and cpu feature (kinda like a time_t struct)? $ sysctl hw.model hw.model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ If you want more details write a tiny assembler routine that does a CPUID instruction and decode the result. Intel has a detailed application note about it at http://developer.intel.ru/design/xeon/applnots/241618.htm R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 20:34:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7CB16A420 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@de.reuver.org) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.247.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD7A43D70 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:34:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@de.reuver.org) Received: from ip5650cd1d.direct-adsl.nl (ip5650cd1d.direct-adsl.nl [86.80.205.29]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0ITG007QJMHER0@smtp14.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:34:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip5650cd1d.direct-adsl.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609C8D5501 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:34:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc70.jaltadaheerd.nl [192.168.1.70]) by ip5650cd1d.direct-adsl.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B1BD54FD for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:34:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:34:24 +0100 From: Marcel de Reuver In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <43D29AD0.7070604@de.reuver.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at mailhost.jaltadaheerd.nl References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: user accounts messed up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:34:39 -0000 Jona Joachim wrote: Hi! I did something quite stupid... I installed postgresql from ports and created an unprivileged user account for it. I wanted to install the database in /var/pgsql and wanted to chown the folder to the unprivileged user. To do this, I entered the following as root: chown -R /var/pgsql/ As this command took more than two seconds I presumed chown had followed .. and so I hit Ctrl-C. After having done this I tried to switch to the unprivileged user account with su and it said something like "setuid not running". After having tried to recover from this situation without success I decided to reboot the system. Now I can't login to any user account anymore, not even root. I am told the password is not correct. I tried to boot in single user mode, mount /usr and change the root password with passwd but I am denied permission to change master.passwd. Is it possible that the user database is corrupt? I would be glad if anyone was able to help me. Greetings, Jona In single user mode the file system is mouted readonly. You have to remount all the file systems read-write. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 20:35:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EF016A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: from ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de (ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de [80.237.203.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B943D62 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: (qmail 19775 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 20:34:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (matze@mausland-entertainment.com@85.182.73.36) by 0 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 20:34:28 -0000 Message-ID: <43D29CCD.1080701@matzsoft.de> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:42:53 +0100 From: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050624) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: blowfish stream encryption (bdes equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:35:59 -0000 Hi I would like to encrpt a stream (a backup which is sent to tape) on the fly. I found the bdes(1) tool -- but it uses DES only. Is there any equivalent tool for a stronger algo? I dont want to create a disk(-image) with gdbe... Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 20:38:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5816A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:38:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377E243D5A for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:42660 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F0PUq-000MjA-PA; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:38:04 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Tamouh H.'" , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:37:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060121151953.D2DE143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcYehVm9cFGP9SW/SLimM7b+I6BM+gAGDMpAAAsvx6A= Message-Id: <20060121203805.377E243D5A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: panic on 5.4 SMP kernel when jailed apache is used heavily X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:38:09 -0000 Hi Tamouh, As I said, thanks for the reply, I will try this. I am slightly apprehensive though as this is supposed to address a bug in PAE, not SMP per se. Do you or anyone have any ideas about this ? Regards, Ruben -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tamouh H. Sent: January 21, 2006 4:18 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: panic on 5.4 SMP kernel when jailed apache is used heavily > > Hi all, > > > > I upgraded a 5.3 system to 5.4 both with SMP kernels, I'm > running 6 jails on a dual xeon 1.26 hp rackmount. When apache > (both 1.3 and 2.0) is being used heavily the system panics. > With a 5.4 GENERIC kernel or a 5.3 SMP kernel this behaviour > does not happen and the system is stable. Does anyone have an > idea ? Or should I post this to bugs ? > > > > Regards, > > Ruben > Most likely you need to update the src and recompile: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c.diff?r1=1.494 .2.9&r2=1.494.2.10&f=h The link above is where the problem occurs once you enable SMP Kernel you'll receive Fatal Trap Error. This has been discussed at: http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/7 57e3350f8847edd/15c076d8db0eba64?lnk=st&q=tamouh+freebsd+5.4+kernel&rnum=2#1 5c076d8db0eba64 Good luck! Tamouh _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 01/14/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 01/14/2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 20:40:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01AA16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5330843D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jona.joachim@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so659118wra for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:40:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W5WAqxc9g8m73LAUBVHdC9rfH8Bilx3J14TNTv+XSRqnzrw6l7VjlAgfN0Gz+IXaN4qcbgDWa1XT5OsaBrLg63EoG7t4X77zgOX/4wnzTMtLmzQut1G9aBCHlkF9dK3A2Mh1aR9zHx/UezEfDCmUo4n5z2n1Vg/gUjycJkOkTuk= Received: by 10.64.185.3 with SMTP id i3mr2268382qbf; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.251.10 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:40:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:40:12 +0100 From: Jona Joachim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: user accounts messed up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaj13@web.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:40:19 -0000 T24gMjEvMDEvMDYsIEpvbmEgSm9hY2hpbSA8am9uYS5qb2FjaGltQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6 CiguLi4pCgpJIGNyZWF0ZWQgYSBtYXN0ZXIucGFzc3dkIGZpbGUgZnJvbSB0aGUgYmFja3VwIGZp bGUgaW4gL3Zhci9iYWNrdXBzCmFuZCBlbXB0aWVkIHRoZSBwYXNzd29yZCBmaWVsZC4gVGhlbiBJ IHVwZGF0ZWQgdGhlIGRhdGFiYXNlIHdpdGgKcHdkX21rZGIgYnV0IEkgc3RpbGwgY2FuJ3QgbG9n aW4uCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:08:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CC516A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net (smtp3.suscom.net [64.78.119.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE2A43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CF7210139 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25525-02-7 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B132210166 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (budman [192.168.0.4]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0LL8mqF035507 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:50 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060121160723.D422.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.24.01 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1247/Sat Jan 21 05:24:51 2006 on seibercom.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Re: Sound driver for Compaq Presario? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:08:58 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:58:38 +0100 (CET), Andreas Davour wrote: > Hi. > > My wife got herself a laptop, and I convinced her that FreeBSD would be > a good operating system to use. > > Now, do anyone know what kind of sound driver we should be using? It is > some kind of built-in card. When I tried pciconf it just told me it was > a "generic soundcard". > > It says "Presario 2302A" on the box, and Presario 2300 on a ministicker > on the a machine. > > I have tried google to no avail. > > /andreas Have you tried contacting the technical support staff for the PC? They should be able to tell you what is installed. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:20:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835A016A42B for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web82002.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82002.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E3B343D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jortega38@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 9969 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2006 21:20:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4SdLV+Aum7fzOtH+nHGIm4/vsHUd4u+A92276LtfI34QnKe/CzK5sQIVv7g4cAU72gAsxWqLA7Y4J2Kp9akyHZm0EAOriclwBUPj9GBnKn/jXJowbLwqLzBjhmC7OnUF3I/74zKbWx8WwVw5FUyxUPT1HzXE0lJUPHo9UAN6Je4= ; Message-ID: <20060121212043.9967.qmail@web82002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.141.140.43] by web82002.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:20:43 PST Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jose Jesus Ortega To: questions@freeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: how to upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:20:44 -0000 I installed AfterStep from the freeBSD ports but a new version here ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/stable/AfterStep-2.2.0-noimages.tar.bz2 is up but I'm new, how do I upgrade to 2.2.0. thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:37:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324DE16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:37:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [68.230.241.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FC843D49 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:37:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.5.182.86]) by fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060121213603.UJZW15695.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@workdog> for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:36:03 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:38:26 -0800 Organization: Bristol Systems Inc. Message-ID: <036f01c61ed3$06288790$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <20060121160723.D422.GERARD@seibercom.net> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Sound driver for Compaq Presario? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gayn.winters@bristolsystems.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:37:03 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Gerard Seibert > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:09 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sound driver for Compaq Presario? > > > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:58:38 +0100 (CET), Andreas Davour wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > My wife got herself a laptop, and I convinced her that > FreeBSD would be > > a good operating system to use. > > > > Now, do anyone know what kind of sound driver we should be > using? It is > > some kind of built-in card. When I tried pciconf it just > told me it was > > a "generic soundcard". > > > > It says "Presario 2302A" on the box, and Presario 2300 on a > ministicker > > on the a machine. > > > > I have tried google to no avail. > > > > /andreas > > Have you tried contacting the technical support staff for the PC? They > should be able to tell you what is installed. HP's online chat works well. I got them last weekend, even though they only advertise M-F support. They are Windows-centric, however. Be careful how you phrase your question! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:46:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACF716A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA8C43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.203]) by ylpvm29.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0LLkgri002727 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:46:42 -0500 X-ORBL: [68.90.147.71] Received: from [192.168.1.25] (adsl-68-90-147-71.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net [68.90.147.71]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0LLkZi8047414; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:46:48 -0500 Message-ID: <43D2ABB8.7080908@mkproductions.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:46:32 -0600 From: Mark Kane User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig52707CF2E12EDC01E18C28EC" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound driver for Compaq Presario? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:46:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig52707CF2E12EDC01E18C28EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas Davour wrote: >=20 > Hi. >=20 > My wife got herself a laptop, and I convinced her that FreeBSD would be= > a good operating system to use. >=20 > Now, do anyone know what kind of sound driver we should be using? It is= > some kind of built-in card. When I tried pciconf it just told me it was= > a "generic soundcard". >=20 > It says "Presario 2302A" on the box, and Presario 2300 on a ministicker= > on the a machine. >=20 > I have tried google to no avail. >=20 > /andreas >=20 You could try loading the "snd_driver" kernel module to try to have it determine what card it is and load the proper driver. It may work and would save the call/chat/email to support. :) # kldload snd_driver http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.htm= l -Mark --=20 GnuPG Public Key: http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) --------------enig52707CF2E12EDC01E18C28EC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0qu7lH2ybcmj7I8RAsE6AJ42E/Eyrybu8FK+TLSrhQATohXoJACgirNm pG5FbzAfLoGa6886wECMhxQ= =fcSN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig52707CF2E12EDC01E18C28EC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:49:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585B316A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404C43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81F91A3C1C; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7176B51746; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:18 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Cichy Blazej Message-ID: <20060121214917.GA85143@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060121192440.9BB3E9805D@rekin18.go2.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060121192440.9BB3E9805D@rekin18.go2.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot compile: ports/math/scilab - what is wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:20 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:24:40PM +0100, Cichy Blazej wrote: > Hello ! >=20 >=20 > I have some problem with compiling: ports/math/scilab. No, the error is with sablotron: > =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for sabcmd in /usr/ports/textproc/sablotr= on > =3D=3D=3D> Building for Sablot-1.0.2 Make sure all your port dependencies are up-to-date by e.g. using portupgrade -a. Kris --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0qxdWry0BWjoQKURAoIvAKCgeyWAyKsPQ8dtNv9vtRZQdOXFpQCgyZZd TE2O2R17VXhigxPQypuAzuk= =HCY4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:49:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D64216A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA0C43D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEAF1A3C1F; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 42463517BC; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:34 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Romeo Theriault Message-ID: <20060121214933.GB85143@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <57AFBEFE-F075-463F-B131-5BEF44F85583@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57AFBEFE-F075-463F-B131-5BEF44F85583@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql with linuxthreads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:35 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:54:54PM -0500, Romeo Theriault wrote: > I've read alot about FreeBsd 5.x series being so much faster with =20 > mysql when it's built with linuxthreads. Is this still true for =20 > Freebsd 6.x. If so how do I build mysql with linuxthreads? How do I =20 > know what the options are when I build any package for that matter? =20 > Thank you AFAIK linuxthreads is no longer required. Kris --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0qxtWry0BWjoQKURAkG9AKCuHkmIn3ACfMrEDO7DYQxe0lndYgCgtN34 L7rE+lkehxSsLp2f8cA903k= =GCJG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 21:49:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6116A42C for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC6843D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239251A3C24; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 416FA517C9; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:49:44 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen Message-ID: <20060121214944.GC85143@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43D29CCD.1080701@matzsoft.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43D29CCD.1080701@matzsoft.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: blowfish stream encryption (bdes equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:45 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:42:53PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > Hi >=20 > I would like to encrpt a stream (a backup which is sent to tape) on the f= ly. >=20 > I found the bdes(1) tool -- but it uses DES only. >=20 > Is there any equivalent tool for a stronger algo? >=20 > I dont want to create a disk(-image) with gdbe... openssl(1) Kris --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0qx3Wry0BWjoQKURAnbwAKDXaJXzGBwaJhGj4DfQWDOnLPcB8wCffx4/ 3n2r0OY4+p/anw+/gEW4aew= =6P1I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 22:16:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE2E16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: from ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de (ds80-237-203-117.dedicated.hosteurope.de [80.237.203.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6BA43D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: (qmail 20239 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2006 22:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (matze@mausland-entertainment.com@85.182.73.36) by 0 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jan 2006 22:14:36 -0000 Message-ID: <43D2B445.8080205@matzsoft.de> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:23:01 +0100 From: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050624) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <43D29CCD.1080701@matzsoft.de> <20060121214944.GC85143@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060121214944.GC85143@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: blowfish stream encryption (bdes equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:16:07 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:42:53PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > > >>Hi >> >>I would like to encrpt a stream (a backup which is sent to tape) on the fly. >> >>I found the bdes(1) tool -- but it uses DES only. >> >>Is there any equivalent tool for a stronger algo? >> >>I dont want to create a disk(-image) with gdbe... >> >> > >openssl(1) > >Kris > > I didn't know openssl could be used from cli so easily, actually the man page isn't very detailed. (Not a word about decryption with -d) however i found this hints now: http://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/#encrypt-simple So thanks a lot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 22:25:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3692F16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C843D45 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B252E1A3C1C; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CA921517D2; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:25:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:25:16 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen Message-ID: <20060121222516.GA40989@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43D29CCD.1080701@matzsoft.de> <20060121214944.GC85143@xor.obsecurity.org> <43D2B445.8080205@matzsoft.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43D2B445.8080205@matzsoft.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: blowfish stream encryption (bdes equivalent) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:25:18 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:23:01PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:42:53PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > >=20 > > > >>Hi > >> > >>I would like to encrpt a stream (a backup which is sent to tape) on the= =20 > >>fly. > >> > >>I found the bdes(1) tool -- but it uses DES only. > >> > >>Is there any equivalent tool for a stronger algo? > >> > >>I dont want to create a disk(-image) with gdbe... > >> =20 > >> > > > >openssl(1) > > > >Kris > >=20 > > > I didn't know openssl could be used from cli so easily, Yeah, it's a hidden gem. > actually the man page isn't very detailed. (Not a word about decryption= =20 > with -d) > however i found this hints now:=20 > http://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/#encrypt-simple >=20 > So thanks a lot. There are more docs on the openssl website, I think. Kris --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD0rTMWry0BWjoQKURAliNAJ4hXg2uwIxwLtAPiCv0hFYCbJls/ACgvzQa pUqhU3/ioNAeQlbQT3/f0o8= =gTd2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 23:48:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D695F16A41F for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2341243D46 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=38269 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F0STF-0005Mb-Sx; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:48:37 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:51674 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1F0STE-0002B7-Be; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:48:36 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:48:15 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060121135037.GA807@arwen.nagual.st> <20060121152611.1ff99c47@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060121152611.1ff99c47@localhost> X-Face: :N, f2_*44g[tRY8Y-gL2zi`G|<6SpFjTeHt|V5LO6Yl2E7yAfEh{E6-8pqxUFX"l)=?utf-8?q?Nm8y=7E=0A=09IWJSAWQ=7D+=3DpP=7CT=5D?=@sy1sz%h)*CW6gtbp]"fe@MjICtIUo.0, CH~{[R4PXSyL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601212348.15864.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Subject: Re: atapicam load question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:48:40 -0000 On Saturday 21 January 2006 14:26, Fabian Keil wrote: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > > When I "kldload atapicam" the permissions in /etc/devfs.conf for cd0 > > are _not_ honored. (I want cd0 to have 0666) > > When I put atapicam_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf the permissions > > are set the way I want them. > > > > I would like to make the choice for atapicam later if posssible, so my > > question is: why are the permissions not honored by devfs.conf when it > > creates a /dev/cd0 device after a "kldload" ? > > /etc/devfs.conf is for boot-time configuration only. Not true, you just need to restart devfs. > What you're looking for is /etc/devfs.rules. > > Fabian Dan