From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 23 09:52:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3F916A400 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 09:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE6C13C458 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 09:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id g33so402348ugd for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 02:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eQDjAP43bi2rJ3DgVlIVNO8AnfX8+B9DzaPu73UY3pZOk552J0aF2FQYEkcyYitmBq63ULlX2s6Zn+tAfx6BsdTxkSrZ/V6yEvIRhDKUj7orPQtM7h6CCcf+edHvO4Y6RwAdaMaWyqb6UT4gXFYc9CZwYia+PNZhlaFkuB0JS0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ij73sU6tO72Y22BYajOHGWEYPTM464NyNdt6zczFbcp2iWamv1Ix7AY1P052QKRhYucXBUQ69cImzYdsvT0qBuX7RX4Rkh3fgLAqtXTxHDrS0ztoXit8xqNdqXWm9prAo/Wosb8LKDFSmIXcWxNJEOBtqucJ01RwgrOyQszocKo= Received: by 10.82.162.14 with SMTP id k14mr674633bue.1179912432615; Wed, 23 May 2007 02:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 02:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 04:27:12 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: xorg 7.2 blathering X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:52:15 -0000 Thanks to the team for their hard work. Just a couple of noten for posterity: The procedeure in ports/UPDATING worked (as avertised) on: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sat May 12 13:19:04 CDT 2007 bsetroot (part of x11-wm/blackbox) seriously prefers that you use the -display flag now (it seems to take >3 minutes to set a background gradient if not). rxvt (x11/rxvt-devel) not does appreciate +sb any more (it barfs if you try to set the flag, honestly). Building from scratch (!) gets pissy if you do not set the XORG_UPDATE variable!? Building on -CURRENT as of late Sunday (hence a barely known gcc 4.2.0) . . . -- -- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 23 10:49:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945F916A400 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 10:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C81E13C465 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 10:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id g33so414975ugd for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 03:49:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Jv0dCtZQY8klUD45iu4VfU+tGVPQC5BFRIrI/FsiYe1ev/p59fXgNLyY6N75Va8jYG0V2KP4ST1pArZE/RTzBhmS/HtdqIPDWdHtkYjwxR//eCsClH69KpGUuFBdpoLlt2Xjw1kiXesZnMaLqxUcd4zwDXlYc2qEnBxE7flMiZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tytl3m307JXBLem9IYd0egXePuyzRDwaQBqBZvHKukkzvzChA4Sf3PAKfpEtlWNZMI3NtRDHAIZBGCdckg8XTtR7W9m1ixy9yopx5rcfKx4PkIEKh3oWy3eqF2kaUvdW76s1lVgFfoYYCdKjirdnMjK98xr7jDzB1+pdoLSVn/A= Received: by 10.82.185.12 with SMTP id i12mr806120buf.1179917397421; Wed, 23 May 2007 03:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 03:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 05:49:57 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Emanuel Haupt" In-Reply-To: <20070523123006.31a0374b.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070523123006.31a0374b.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg 7.2 blathering X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:49:59 -0000 On 23/05/07, Emanuel Haupt claimed: > > Thanks to the team for their hard work. > > > > Just a couple of noten for posterity: > > > > The procedeure in ports/UPDATING worked (as > > avertised) on: > > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sat May 12 13:19:04 CDT 2007 > > > > bsetroot (part of x11-wm/blackbox) seriously prefers > > that you use the -display flag now (it seems to take > > >3 minutes to set a background gradient if not). > > You might want to give 'Esetroot' a try it comes with x11/eterm. > % Esetroot -display 0:0 -gradient rectanglegradient -from grey16 -to rgb:8/3/3 Esetroot: Unrecognized option 'g' Can I assume that this missing fictionality[sic] will be included in fulture[sic] releases of bsetroot as well? ;-) (In the background somewhere, I do note that Esetroot displays png, gif, jpg, and a host of other such hwiol bsetroot only flunctions in said capacity with the assistance of xv or (appearantly) Esetroot. Damnit, I like my gradient. And canoodle anyone who says otherwise, this is 1974 and the Steelers are going to win the soup or bowl.) -- -- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 23 11:06:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1080316A4A9 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 11:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mx.critical.ch (milkyway.critical.ch [62.2.45.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCF413C44B for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 11:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from wiggles.bluenet.ch (milkyway.critical.ch [62.2.45.169]) by mx.critical.ch (8.13.8/8.13.8/critical-1.0) with SMTP id l4NARI2S069367; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:30:06 +0200 From: Emanuel Haupt To: "illoai@gmail.com" Message-Id: <20070523123006.31a0374b.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mx.critical.ch [62.2.45.169]); Wed, 23 May 2007 12:27:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3285/Wed May 23 07:39:59 2007 on milkyway.critical.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg 7.2 blathering X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:06:14 -0000 > Thanks to the team for their hard work. > > Just a couple of noten for posterity: > > The procedeure in ports/UPDATING worked (as > avertised) on: > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sat May 12 13:19:04 CDT 2007 > > bsetroot (part of x11-wm/blackbox) seriously prefers > that you use the -display flag now (it seems to take > >3 minutes to set a background gradient if not). You might want to give 'Esetroot' a try it comes with x11/eterm. Emanuel -- GnuPG key id: 0x90215DB9 Download: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371 Key fingerprint: 741B C70F 100B F360 0B52 E92D 5F01 7A86 9021 5DB9 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 23 12:39:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813D916A421 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C113D13C43E for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id g33so443970ugd for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:39:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DbDhNRuQaIo3AnlEjVq155RILFzS9NTcBGa/96Cn3Uw6d9g8AHjLSWw22vMkTbJcKnZgJNd/RW6NPQqNcZ0KQJk64s7y+C7MLOv5/4mU1mZmYcrVTJbd8hT2zOUiXtvPK6oQgII/7Em2gD7hiuFKQTxervrfvwAzU+U+/gPyWJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KcbLjw3wkUsrsQ4s2ZJY7j2rlz/S7Lj5WSDIbpUcL9R8RwQz6nPHBLzc3MlFrPMWYLMFMl72P6Aofz2znToW8U6CclXdpRADTGcHYxKiXWannGJqnapk/whkQJwesEnkDxItXZ5r/26ic6JGdHOeFVaZ3QQlid0IUPDCUeg/r/U= Received: by 10.67.19.13 with SMTP id w13mr1360220ugi.1179923947934; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.162.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 59sm631556ugf.2007.05.23.05.39.06; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:40:39 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:13 -0000 Using Xorg 7.2, has anyone tested the 3D performance of radeon cards, series 9500 and up? (xorg 6.9 radeon drivers have <1 fps) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 23 14:05:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A47316A421 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029E613C457 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so50174waf for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 07:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tE73OuDet14In1iebl8I5gmEVOGZB/xN1bZaxvqsMxTQpXPqppqYyYukf3/TkgTM+wLXGf20BXfOOlLhwMIWv09rKxET8oAwln5PTXq5T7piCYPko40Y1SRDvEs/5X11D2M+CJ4+7Ye5ufsBSuey29jprx7Z1Ar4cb97e7Yqwh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=clLtSR/Qf8EdsheE1qDm1yneeY+qo84jrNxup74yL3bFnazuZo6UubgcQ1xi5Ew6nTmL9yQ5+lM27G99V0139sn666unD4ZsgjcBs3KgXV8rkWC12zBEH9t1zOrGQTNG47A64iCeHE/SXstzYNQ43SWa5ozf7r6/fI+lZXvodPQ= Received: by 10.115.46.9 with SMTP id y9mr256327waj.1179927410223; Wed, 23 May 2007 06:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.5 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:36:49 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "deeptech71@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 51005f76dac61b26 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:05:04 -0000 On 5/23/07, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Using Xorg 7.2, has anyone tested the 3D performance of radeon cards, series > 9500 and up? (xorg 6.9 radeon drivers have <1 fps) Theirry Thomas has just reported success with x700, AFAIR. Look through the archives. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 08:20:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E42316A468 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 08:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5056713C44B for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 08:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from [10.9.70.100] (pool-71-182-82-197.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.182.82.197]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCAD174 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 01:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46554626.4030004@bitfreak.org> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:00:38 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: I think my spell-checker is depressed X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:20:51 -0000 So I was writing an email in which I was discussing a JRE-based piece of software and a port in the sysutils directory. The spell-checker marks "JRE" and "sysutils". The suggested replacements? "DIRE" and "futility's". From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 09:06:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797E516A400; Thu, 24 May 2007 09:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from postfix1-g20.free.fr (postfix1-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F2013C43E; Thu, 24 May 2007 09:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by postfix1-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A713D1084F34; Thu, 24 May 2007 10:36:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from graf.pompo.net (graf.pompo.net [81.56.186.139]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A668D188FF; Thu, 24 May 2007 10:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F00A11424; Thu, 24 May 2007 10:36:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:36:19 +0200 From: Thierry Thomas To: Andrew Pantyukhin Message-ID: <20070524083619.GZ93167@graf.pompo.net> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Pantyukhin , "deeptech71@gmail.com" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HnQK338I3UIa/qiP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: (hRbQnK~Pt7$ct`!fupO(`y_WL4^-Iwn4@ly-.,[4xC4xc; y=\ipKMNm<1J>lv@PP~7Z<.t KjAnXLs: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE i386 Organization: Kabbale Eros X-PGP: 0xC71405A2 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:06:46 -0000 --HnQK338I3UIa/qiP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mer 23 mai 07 =E0 15:36:49 +0200, Andrew Pantyukhin =E9crivait=A0: > On 5/23/07, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >Using Xorg 7.2, has anyone tested the 3D performance of radeon cards,=20 > >series > >9500 and up? (xorg 6.9 radeon drivers have <1 fps) >=20 > Theirry Thomas has just reported success with x700, > AFAIR. Look through the archives. Hello, My card is a X700Super (commercial name), detected as : it's a rather cheap card, and I'm not sure that it is > 9500. Anyway, it actually works with x.org 7.2 and DRI, and for the performances, glxgears reports about 5550 frames in 5.0 seconds ~=3D 1100 FPS. Regards, --=20 Th. Thomas. --HnQK338I3UIa/qiP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGVU6Dc95pjMcUBaIRAkZmAJ9kqWsHFYiu5aluXfNGu0lHE10PtwCgjSaK lq2o9IRQbS00SZdEAxhShoM= =Rxwk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HnQK338I3UIa/qiP-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 12:14:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD1316A421 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9390B13C4BE for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so96525mue for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 05:14:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=orQMNkpTbA4c8j2+WpKSrqudEUZ3z4rgyws/G2/OZn5MC+CL8cmfNw3f4Do7uny6R9UNcv+bAJUgO5uc+fL4QuVSQhYgDWy9nwEdR3Sh8wzxx2b/gdrSlNgteASKGJ6JDOq0hJSBrhGyojWN6JxMYt19RwAHBoi5k3YyNVZb6qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Katq/fhjSls3+l4v94fxa2lNOFz84sThG4keE2XU0jRrGESSm6NknHWXqmOeAvsr5O/sdA7vRDDM/YBw2BzFYnB/ELqU5qZ/lP9JcHfXKuYW8pBD7d2e0gvSFSLYYY0/OPpYLXC3vOwQimNKHw9psfb1ViAxTcinm4w+MtkHmEs= Received: by 10.82.151.14 with SMTP id y14mr3037826bud.1180007165681; Thu, 24 May 2007 04:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Thu, 24 May 2007 04:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 06:46:00 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Darren Pilgrim" In-Reply-To: <46554626.4030004@bitfreak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46554626.4030004@bitfreak.org> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I think my spell-checker is depressed X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:14:30 -0000 On 24/05/07, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > So I was writing an email in which I was discussing a JRE-based piece of > software and a port in the sysutils directory. The spell-checker marks > "JRE" and "sysutils". The suggested replacements? "DIRE" and > "futility's". How to Help a Depressed [Program] Engage the depressed [program] in conversation and listen carefully. Do not disparage feelings expressed, but point out realities and offer hope. Do not ignore remarks about suicide. Report them to the depressed [program]'s therapist. Invite the depressed [program] for walks, outings, to the movies, and other activities. Be gently insistent if your invitation is refused. I hope this is on a laptop and not a proliant ML. -- -- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 12:19:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C945E16A469 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7928813C448 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81EB2087; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:19:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAE42086; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 34D3E50B3; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:19:41 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Andrew Pantyukhin References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> <20070524083619.GZ93167@graf.pompo.net> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:19:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20070524083619.GZ93167@graf.pompo.net> (Thierry Thomas's message of "Thu\, 24 May 2007 10\:36\:19 +0200") Message-ID: <868xbe9zxf.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:19:45 -0000 Thierry Thomas writes: > My card is a X700Super (commercial name), detected as RV410 X700 SE>: it's a rather cheap card, and I'm not sure that it > is > 9500. It is, the 9500 belongs to the R300 series while the X700 is an R400-series chip. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 12:27:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13A716A468 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A3E13C45D for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so33720anc for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 05:27:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=XqVxgFq9TK+6xXahrSZwikoNb0uJJB+SSm/w1RTCLVsMXCcrSs7w4XSyS2q2Z+Wfwj/R65joPdDi28RGMR37GYT4PlyvPw4TBPdX5O6uQHo5drOaYxPAjPF2PuVikUErZbOIdnLwwhjqTV6Nv/SHBA9N75IeQF/A8tKllmGn3js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Thu, 24 May 2007 12:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D3213C457; Thu, 24 May 2007 12:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0E12086; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:30:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ECA2084; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:30:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 268AB50B6; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:30:21 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> <20070524083619.GZ93167@graf.pompo.net> <868xbe9zxf.fsf@dwp.des.no> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:30:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andrew Pantyukhin's message of "Thu\, 24 May 2007 16\:27\:20 +0400") Message-ID: <86wsyy8kv7.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:30:25 -0000 "Andrew Pantyukhin" writes: > On 5/24/07, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > > Thierry Thomas writes: > > > My card is a X700Super (commercial name), detected as > > RV410 X700 SE>: it's a rather cheap card, and I'm not sure that it > > > is > 9500. > > It is, the 9500 belongs to the R300 series while the X700 is an > > R400-series chip. > Depends on how you define ">", of course :-) "later generation" The issue is that the R300 has been supported for a long time, while until recently the R400 was not. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 13:14:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2609816A41F for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@i.0x5.de) Received: from n.0x5.de (n.0x5.de [217.197.85.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C608813C44C for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicolas@i.0x5.de) Received: by pc5.i.0x5.de (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5A98A61C7B; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:57:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:57:44 +0200 From: Nicolas Rachinsky To: chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070524125744.GA46848@mid.pc5.i.0x5.de> Mail-Followup-To: chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Powered-by: FreeBSD X-Homepage: http://www.rachinsky.de X-PGP-Keyid: 887BAE72 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 039E 9433 115F BC5F F88D 4524 5092 45C4 887B AE72 X-PGP-Keys: http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas/gpg/nicolas_rachinsky.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: use of multilevel dumps? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:14:02 -0000 Hallo, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/39849 doesn't this make multilevel dumps somehow useless? You can't restore them correctly without repairing the flags manually. I must miss something. But what? Nicolas -- http://www.rachinsky.de/nicolas From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 13:33:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC6916A41F for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594613C48A for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so47017anc for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 06:32:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=OUXWT8oL5pwPbEDh4SMUqiIbwKusz/lyCZ1JdY+DFl+z4FYYmguh3fz6yq1QoCRf9TkL7qoO4p5I9LC6DCW3OUy8WlRxSGYDviXflZ5+sP6ebuHgvL8btyoObrmo3bXHXuQlzRRXUvZZ6O+6jJVBjORGpg+r2EuFIvDucDwVvcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Thu, 24 May 2007 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726DA13C43E for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from [10.9.70.100] (pool-71-182-82-197.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.182.82.197]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0086A80; Thu, 24 May 2007 09:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4655C39E.9090902@bitfreak.org> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:55:58 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "illoai@gmail.com" References: <46554626.4030004@bitfreak.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I think my spell-checker is depressed X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:56:00 -0000 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 24/05/07, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >> So I was writing an email in which I was discussing a JRE-based piece of >> software and a port in the sysutils directory. The spell-checker marks >> "JRE" and "sysutils". The suggested replacements? "DIRE" and >> "futility's". > > How to Help a Depressed [Program] > > Engage the depressed [program] in conversation and > listen carefully. Do not disparage feelings expressed, > but point out realities and offer hope. Do not ignore > remarks about suicide. Report them to the depressed > [program]'s therapist. Invite the depressed [program] for > walks, outings, to the movies, and other activities. Be > gently insistent if your invitation is refused. > > I hope this is on a laptop and not a proliant ML. It is. I took it for a walk on a bright sunny day, but alas it's outlook was too dim and I could not see its screen. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 19:08:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E716A469 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kavassy.daniel@zonemail.hu) Received: from mx2.datanet.hu (mx2.datanet.hu [194.149.13.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8DB13C4F8 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kavassy.daniel@zonemail.hu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fem2bsvcq6.adsl.datanet.hu [195.56.21.38]) by mx2.datanet.hu (DataNet) with ESMTP id A985C18A4A0 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 20:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4655D9C2.50200@zonemail.hu> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 20:30:26 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?K=E1v=E1ssy_D=E1niel?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD t-shirt X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:08:57 -0000 Hi, First time I posted to the wrong list, sorry. I've seen FreeBSD t-shirts (probably drafts) with the new logo: http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/640-1.png If there were any, I'd happily buy one. Daniel From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 19:10:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6355E16A400 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from optimus.centralmiss.com (ns.centralmiss.com [206.156.254.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D8813C448 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by optimus.centralmiss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC12A28431; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:50:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 6D3B561C42; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:50:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:50:16 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Darren Pilgrim Message-ID: <20070524185016.GT83502@over-yonder.net> References: <46554626.4030004@bitfreak.org> <4655C39E.9090902@bitfreak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4655C39E.9090902@bitfreak.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14-fullermd.3 (2007-02-12) Cc: chat@freebsd.org, "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: I think my spell-checker is depressed X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:10:01 -0000 On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:55:58AM -0700 I heard the voice of Darren Pilgrim, and lo! it spake thus: > > It is. I took it for a walk on a bright sunny day, but alas it's > outlook was too dim and I could not see its screen. You're running Outlook on it? No wonder it's depressed... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 19:27:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC60616A46B for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@ixsystems.com) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43213C487 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 19:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@ixsystems.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C33BE69; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98406-04; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-195.nat.ixsystems.net (unknown [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86933BC7B; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Olander Organization: iXsystems To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:27:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <4655D9C2.50200@zonemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <4655D9C2.50200@zonemail.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705241227.35295.matt@ixsystems.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: =?iso-8859-2?q?K=E1v=E1ssy_D=E1niel?= Subject: Re: FreeBSD t-shirt X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 19:27:49 -0000 On Thursday 24 May 2007 11:30 am, K=E1v=E1ssy D=E1niel wrote: > Hi, > > First time I posted to the wrong list, sorry. > > I've seen FreeBSD t-shirts (probably drafts) with > the new logo: http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/640-1.png > > If there were any, I'd happily buy one. Hi Daniel! Check out www.freebsdmall.com. Some of the new shirts (that I took to BSDCa= n)=20 are up there now and if the new logo FreeBSD t-shirt isn't up yet, it shoul= d=20 be soon :-) best, =2Dmatt =2D-=20 Matt Olander CTO, iXsystems - "Servers for Open Source" =A0http://www.iXsystems.com Public Relations, The FreeBSD Project =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.FreeBSD.org BSD on the Desktop! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= http://www.pcbsd.org Phone: (408)943-4100 ext. 113 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Fax: = (408)943-4101=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 =46ax: (408)943-4101 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 24 23:01:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE0516A473 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 23:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBBA13C4D0 for ; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 24 May 2007 23:02, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > The issue is that the R300 has been supported for a long time, > > while until recently the R400 was not. > > Yes, I'm lucky to have 9550 and 1100 - both of which are > not supported by any version of Xorg :-( If you're running i386 you could try this one -> http://www.fglrx-freebsd.com/index.php =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1839866.6dZqjkaG4u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGVhlK5ZPcIHs/zowRAiIBAKCJyqmVJS2vQtgRvH0x5ES59XoaFACfQuBB dc3FUBDHs1NqKGNcej5aKlM= =67xh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1839866.6dZqjkaG4u-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 25 06:39:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AE616A421 for ; 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b=hxyCFecStp5iic0n6t7IiER751DWljf6t/jajnlx9kLoBJYMZKpigrC1VSLzapjMDY6kOhtgzZpIS2cbFMNejdWI2tKvqf9TdmnB/+aGGzqVdwVv34TYZEHcPS6+qMNdYEZXiQGfkTH6XWjuX/kU67aFpxBPpakgDObwFKqDe0k= Received: by 10.115.32.1 with SMTP id k1mr1348739waj.1180075143716; Thu, 24 May 2007 23:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.5 with HTTP; Thu, 24 May 2007 23:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:39:03 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <200705250831.30329.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> <86wsyy8kv7.fsf@dwp.des.no> <200705250831.30329.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 62c7b4290659d3f4 Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 06:39:05 -0000 On 5/25/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Thursday 24 May 2007 23:02, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > > The issue is that the R300 has been supported for a long time, > > > while until recently the R400 was not. > > > > Yes, I'm lucky to have 9550 and 1100 - both of which are > > not supported by any version of Xorg :-( > > If you're running i386 you could try this one -> > http://www.fglrx-freebsd.com/index.php Oh, I meant Xorg doesn't support 3D on my cards. 2D works quite fine. And I do have amd64. 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( [84.0.96.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 29sm6284387uga.2007.05.25.07.18.23; Fri, 25 May 2007 07:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4656F090.1080603@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:20:00 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <46543647.7010202@gmail.com> <86wsyy8kv7.fsf@dwp.des.no> <200705250831.30329.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 3D @ radeon & xorg 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:18:28 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 5/25/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> On Thursday 24 May 2007 23:02, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >> > > The issue is that the R300 has been supported for a long time, >> > > while until recently the R400 was not. >> > >> > Yes, I'm lucky to have 9550 and 1100 - both of which are >> > not supported by any version of Xorg :-( >> >> If you're running i386 you could try this one -> >> http://www.fglrx-freebsd.com/index.php > > Oh, I meant Xorg doesn't support 3D on my cards. 2D works > quite fine. And I do have amd64. 2D works for me too. 3D, i can just wait for the next FBSD release and see.