From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 30 23:39:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126CE16A421 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (carlit.cesca.es [84.88.0.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C711D13C48E for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205CA331F2E for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:20:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [213.97.212.36] (36.Red-213-97-212.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.97.212.36]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41E6331F38 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:20:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:27:18 +0100 From: Jordi Prats User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070829) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:39:29 -0000 Hi all, This is my first post on this list. I'm currently studding to change a HA Linux cluster to a HA FreeBSD cluster. Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, and several NFS, MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. What would you recommend to change this Linux setup to a FreeBSD setup? Any experiences with HA clusters with FreeBSD? Thank you! Jordi From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 13:39:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483F016A419 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (carlit.cesca.es [84.88.0.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74A13C465 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A69331A94; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.94.163.17] (santalis.cesca.es [192.94.163.17]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC6D330B7C; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47286EC1.4030608@cesca.es> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:09 +0100 From: Jordi Prats User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jules Gilbert References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:39:25 -0000 So there's no HA cluster for FreeBSD? RH cluster suite use kernel modules, so I cannot just recompile it, on the other hand clusterit does not fit all my requirements. regards, Jordi Jules Gilbert wrote: > Be careful. > > I use FreeBSD and I love it, I've used it for years and am not going > back to Linux. BUT!, your entry expectations wrt progress, the level > of support, and many other things differ from the Linux world. > > I have 15 blades up 24X7, and one controller machine, and another 10 > or so satellites, all running FreeBSD 6.1 or 6.2. > > And we have had our share of problems. For example, some key aspects > of clusterit have never worked for us. So we moved on and have made > to with one or two (now,) excellent home-brew solutions. But running > FreeBSD is not going to be like running Linux. On the other hand, > you'll get a lot of work done that with Linux, you'd never be able to > do, because Linux has it's own kind of troubles. > > I use these machines for research and some production applications and > don't need GUI's or lot's of access to the internet. A few minutes a > day is all. So we don't see attacks and such. > > --jg > > > > On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Jordi Prats wrote: > >> Hi all, >> This is my first post on this list. I'm currently studding to change >> a HA Linux cluster to a HA FreeBSD cluster. >> >> Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, and several >> NFS, MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. >> >> What would you recommend to change this Linux setup to a FreeBSD >> setup? Any experiences with HA clusters with FreeBSD? >> >> Thank you! >> Jordi >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-cluster >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-cluster-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- ...................................................................... __ / / Jordi Prats C E / S / C A Dept. de Sistemes /_/ Centre de Supercomputació de Catalunya Gran Capità, 2-4 (Edifici Nexus) · 08034 Barcelona T. 93 205 6464 · F. 93 205 6979 · jprats@cesca.es ...................................................................... From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 14:07:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8050916A418 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2001:1b20:1:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E025C13C4A8 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9VE6rah038694; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:06:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l9VE6qbb038693; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:06:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:06:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200710311406.l9VE6qbb038693@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG, jprats@cesca.es In-Reply-To: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-cluster User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:06:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG, jprats@cesca.es List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:07:24 -0000 Jordi Prats wrote: > This is my first post on this list. I'm currently studding to change a > HA Linux cluster to a HA FreeBSD cluster. > > Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, and several > NFS, MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. > > What would you recommend to change this Linux setup to a FreeBSD setup? > Any experiences with HA clusters with FreeBSD? Yes. I have deployed HA clusters with FreeBSD using Alteon [*] boxes (Nortel). They support both HA and load balancing. Work very well with farms of web servers, mail servers etc. Getting NFS to work in a HA environment is rather a black art. I recommend third party products such as NetApp Filers which support HA cluster setups. And their OS is BSD-based, too, so it's not totally off- topic. PostgreSQL comes with replication tools which are OS- independant, they work well, too. There's similar stuff for MySQL, but it doesn't work as well as PostgreSQL. Well, at least that's my impression. Best regards Oliver PS: [*] Alteon Networks (not yet Nortel at that time) produced a nice print ad in 1999. Unfortunately it never went into actual print ... Dunno why ... :-) http://www.zeldman.com/adgraveyard/6.html That web page contains a comment by Jordan Hubbard, by the way. I'm not sure if it's "our" FreeBSD JKH, though. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker" -- Daniel C. Sobral From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 14:40:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C78F16A46C for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C33113C4B7 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so149427wxd for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.12.2 with SMTP id 2mr11938002wxl.1193831115566; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? ( [71.192.59.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i36sm1044219wxd.2007.10.31.04.45.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:45:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jules Gilbert Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:44:59 -0400 To: Jordi Prats X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:40:56 -0000 Be careful. I use FreeBSD and I love it, I've used it for years and am not going back to Linux. BUT!, your entry expectations wrt progress, the level of support, and many other things differ from the Linux world. I have 15 blades up 24X7, and one controller machine, and another 10 or so satellites, all running FreeBSD 6.1 or 6.2. And we have had our share of problems. For example, some key aspects of clusterit have never worked for us. So we moved on and have made to with one or two (now,) excellent home-brew solutions. But running FreeBSD is not going to be like running Linux. On the other hand, you'll get a lot of work done that with Linux, you'd never be able to do, because Linux has it's own kind of troubles. I use these machines for research and some production applications and don't need GUI's or lot's of access to the internet. A few minutes a day is all. So we don't see attacks and such. --jg On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Jordi Prats wrote: > Hi all, > This is my first post on this list. I'm currently studding to > change a HA Linux cluster to a HA FreeBSD cluster. > > Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, and > several NFS, MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. > > What would you recommend to change this Linux setup to a FreeBSD > setup? Any experiences with HA clusters with FreeBSD? > > Thank you! > Jordi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-cluster > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-cluster- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 11:05:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1104F16A46B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-cluster@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C594D13C49D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-cluster@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1InWSa-0001HK-45 for freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:35:32 +0000 Received: from mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.128]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:35:32 +0000 Received: from mc by mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:35:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org From: Michael Widerkrantz Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:35:23 +0100 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack, http://hack.org/mc/ Lines: 26 Message-ID: <86k5p28g10.fsf@tim.hack.org> References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> <47286EC1.4030608@cesca.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:36/HwmXwbClwc0Gjy26gZB/d9J8= Sender: news Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:05:49 -0000 Sorry if this is a duplicate, but I haven't seen my post in the archives. Jordi Prats writes: > So there's no HA cluster for FreeBSD? RH cluster suite use kernel > modules, so I cannot just recompile it, on the other hand clusterit > does not fit all my requirements. That depends on what you mean with "HA cluster", I guess. What do you want to do? What kind of systems are you doing failover for? Do you want load balancing with that? What kind of systems do you want to balance load on? Stateless web servers? Do you want weighting as well? For example, heartbeat from linux-ha.org is in the ports system under sysutils/heartbeat. I don't know if it's up to date with the version at linux-ha, though, but the linux-ha web site says their system runs on FreeBSD. OpenBSD's CARP has been ported to FreeBSD if you want to do failover for firewalls with pf. There are many load balancers that can run on top of FreeBSD. -- MC, http://hack.org/mc/ From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 11:05:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04C616A417 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-cluster@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECD713C4A5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-cluster@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1InJxu-0001RO-Si for freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:15:02 +0000 Received: from mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.128]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:15:02 +0000 Received: from mc by mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:15:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org From: Michael Widerkrantz Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:04:48 +0100 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack, http://hack.org/mc/ Lines: 21 Message-ID: <86tzo76zj3.fsf@tim.hack.org> References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> <47286EC1.4030608@cesca.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mkb-128-158-209-82.3.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Xbxy/FOQGpmo/7ZgR1l37eJrOc= Sender: news Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:05:49 -0000 Jordi Prats writes: > So there's no HA cluster for FreeBSD? That depends on what you mean with "HA cluster", I guess. What do you want to do? What kind of systems are you doing failover for? Do you want load balancing with that? What kind of systems do you want to balance load on? Stateless web servers? Do you want weighting as well? For example, heartbeat from linux-ha.org is in the ports system under sysutils/heartbeat. I don't know if it's up to date with the version at linux-ha, though, but the linux-ha web site says their system runs on FreeBSD. OpenBSD's CARP has been ported to FreeBSD if you want to do failover for firewalls with pf. There are many load balancers that can run on top of FreeBSD. -- MC, http://hack.org/mc/ From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 19:24:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BAC16A417 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (carlit.cesca.es [84.88.0.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1A513C48D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7786E331ACB for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:24:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [213.97.212.36] (36.Red-213-97-212.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.97.212.36]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B0331A27 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:24:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472A3774.2010403@cesca.es> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:30:44 +0100 From: Jordi Prats User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070829) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> <47286EC1.4030608@cesca.es> <86k5p28g10.fsf@tim.hack.org> In-Reply-To: <86k5p28g10.fsf@tim.hack.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:24:33 -0000 I'll give a try to heartbeat. I want to failover NFS servers, and database servers. By now I'm running cman+rgmanager (RedHat cluster suite) regards, Jordi Michael Widerkrantz wrote: > Sorry if this is a duplicate, but I haven't seen my post in the > archives. > > Jordi Prats writes: > >> So there's no HA cluster for FreeBSD? RH cluster suite use kernel >> modules, so I cannot just recompile it, on the other hand clusterit >> does not fit all my requirements. > > That depends on what you mean with "HA cluster", I guess. What do you > want to do? What kind of systems are you doing failover for? Do you > want load balancing with that? What kind of systems do you want to > balance load on? Stateless web servers? Do you want weighting as well? > > For example, heartbeat from linux-ha.org is in the ports system under > sysutils/heartbeat. I don't know if it's up to date with the version > at linux-ha, though, but the linux-ha web site says their system runs > on FreeBSD. > > OpenBSD's CARP has been ported to FreeBSD if you want to do failover > for firewalls with pf. > > There are many load balancers that can run on top of FreeBSD. > From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 19:54:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE48616A41A for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (carlit.cesca.es [84.88.0.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38813C48D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jprats@cesca.es) Received: from carlit.cesca.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6C6331F51; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:32:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [213.97.212.36] (36.Red-213-97-212.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.97.212.36]) by carlit.cesca.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09D2331ACB; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:32:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <472A3948.7040605@cesca.es> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:38:32 +0100 From: Jordi Prats User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070829) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ross References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> <20071031222808.V1141@klein.bigpond.com> In-Reply-To: <20071031222808.V1141@klein.bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:54:22 -0000 Thanks Peter, I suppose I'll have to do some more work than just change the OS ;) regards, Jordi Peter Ross wrote: > Hi Jordi, > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Jordi Prats wrote: > >> Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, > > I checked the Website.. the most of them are on application level so they > should be available under FreeBSD as well. > > E.g. I have a Red Hat szenario with Apache as the loadbalancer and > clustered tomcat 6.0 behind. A developer has the same setup at a FreebSD-7 > box and tests it there. > >> and several NFS, > > I believe the Red Had Cluster uses GFS to have concurrent r/w access to > the SAN? > > I try to imagine to use FreeBSD stuff as gmirror, ZFS, iscsi, CARP etc... > it all does not sum up to something similiar - but it may be my lack of > imagination only. > > NFSv4 is designed to support for replication and migration but I have no > idea about the FreeBSD implementation status. I just find this old status > report: > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2006-01-2006-03.html#FreeBSD-NFS-Status-Report > > "FreeBSD NFSv4 server is pretty stable now and available via anonymous > ftp. NFSv4.1 features are not a part of it yet and are not likely to > happen until at least the end of 2006. Contact > rick@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca for details." > > The sources for current only contains code for a NFSv4 client. > > To be fair I do not know about the Linux implematation either. A document > last updated in March > (http://wiki.linux-nfs.org/wiki/index.php/Server_state) predicts this > implemented in 2.6.19. We have 2.6.23 by now but I cannot find it in the > kernel changelogs.. > >> MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. > > As already pointed out there are replication solutions for postgresql and > MySQL - they should work under FreeBSD in the same way as for Linux. > > Regards > Peter > > From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 3 22:41:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CD16A41A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de) Received: from qsrv01ps.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv01ps.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.82.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A36D13C4AC for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de) Received: from oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com ([124.176.220.146]) by omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20071101121651.ODTY22884.omta04ps.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:16:51 +0000 Received: from klein.bigpond.com ([124.176.220.146]) by oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20071101121650.PXGA6780.oaamta02ps.mx.bigpond.com@klein.bigpond.com>; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:16:50 +0000 Received: from klein.bigpond.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klein.bigpond.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9VCGl97001326; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:16:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de) Received: from localhost (petros@localhost) by klein.bigpond.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l9VCGihl001323; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:16:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de) X-Authentication-Warning: klein.bigpond.com: petros owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:16:44 +1100 (EST) From: Peter Ross X-X-Sender: petros@klein.bigpond.com To: Jordi Prats In-Reply-To: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> Message-ID: <20071031222808.V1141@klein.bigpond.com> References: <4727BDD6.8060105@cesca.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HA cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:41:02 -0000 Hi Jordi, On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Jordi Prats wrote: > Currently I have two (redundant) load balancers with LVS, I checked the Website.. the most of them are on application level so they should be available under FreeBSD as well. E.g. I have a Red Hat szenario with Apache as the loadbalancer and clustered tomcat 6.0 behind. A developer has the same setup at a FreebSD-7 box and tests it there. > and several NFS, I believe the Red Had Cluster uses GFS to have concurrent r/w access to the SAN? I try to imagine to use FreeBSD stuff as gmirror, ZFS, iscsi, CARP etc... it all does not sum up to something similiar - but it may be my lack of imagination only. NFSv4 is designed to support for replication and migration but I have no idea about the FreeBSD implementation status. I just find this old status report: http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2006-01-2006-03.html#FreeBSD-NFS-Status-Report "FreeBSD NFSv4 server is pretty stable now and available via anonymous ftp. NFSv4.1 features are not a part of it yet and are not likely to happen until at least the end of 2006. Contact rick@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca for details." The sources for current only contains code for a NFSv4 client. To be fair I do not know about the Linux implematation either. A document last updated in March (http://wiki.linux-nfs.org/wiki/index.php/Server_state) predicts this implemented in 2.6.19. We have 2.6.23 by now but I cannot find it in the kernel changelogs.. > MySQL and PostgreSQL servers using RedHat cluster suite. As already pointed out there are replication solutions for postgresql and MySQL - they should work under FreeBSD in the same way as for Linux. Regards Peter