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Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) hdds w/ raid. can't install 6.2 because my apps not supported. appreciate if anyone tested with the above server? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 16:16:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BFF16A403 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57E8313C457 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 30362 invoked by uid 110); 4 Apr 2007 15:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2007 15:50:13 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Ann Lee" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:48:11 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <80b681a50704032133s35b8a88by947c3eb5da28c415@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070404161656.57E8313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd 5.4 dual core intel xeon & SAS supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:16:56 -0000 Why are your apps not supported? did you try them with compat5.x? I believe you have to run amd64 on these dual cores. Trying to boot i386 on my dell 2950 dual core xeons fails. -Simon On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:33:25 +0800, Ann Lee wrote: >hi there, >HP DL380R05 5130 (2.0Ghz, 1333 FSB), 4GB RAM, 1x4MB L2 Cache, 72GB SFF SAS >10K 2.5" Hard Drive w/ RAID >or HP ML150TG3 5130 (2.00 GHz, 1333 FSB) HP-SAS,4GB RAM, 1x4MB L2 cache >wondering if freebsd 5.4 can support 2 * dual core 2.0Ghz & 4GB RAM & RAID 1 >w/ gmirror? that intel dual-core processor consists of two complete >execution cores in one physical processor and i need to get 2. Serial >Attached SCSI (SAS) hdds w/ raid. >can't install 6.2 because my apps not supported. appreciate if anyone tested >with the above server? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 20:20:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E8216A4EB for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.n.s.i@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE6D413C458 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.n.s.i@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Apr 2007 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from p5B00112F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gate.home.org) [91.0.17.47] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 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Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:22:58 -0700 In-Reply-To: <12569617.1142369887859.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> References: <44172AC5.8070400@skyhawk.ca> <12569617.1142369887859.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" To: Peter Giessel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-GMX-UID: FFFlZKdneSEkeQY8p3UhaXN1IGRvb8BQ X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Liste FreeBSD , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:20:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:22:57 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:20:00 -0000 On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Peter Giessel wrote: > On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, at 11:43AM, Andrew Fremantle > wrote: > >> Here are my requirements >> Socket 939 >> At least four SATA headers >> (preferably) At least two PATA headers >> PCIe Gigabit Ethernet > > You didn't mention what brand of processor, but if you are going > AMD64, Socket 939 is what the OP said, which is an AMD thing Chad > there > is a pretty good list of tested motherboards here: > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > > I used Socket 940 Tyan myself, and am a big fan of Tyan, but not as > many tested > Socket 939 Tyan boards on the list. You should be able to find > something that > works for you on the list though. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 20:20:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6126116A402 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.n.s.i@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9850213C46A for ; 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Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (webmail09-en1 [10.13.10.98]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout10/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EKw8Gl007047; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail09 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mac.com (Xserve/webmail09/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k2EKw7PR000411; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:58:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12569617.1142369887859.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> From: Peter Giessel To: Andrew Fremantle in-reply-to: <44172AC5.8070400@skyhawk.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit references: <44172AC5.8070400@skyhawk.ca> X-Originating-IP: 158.145.111.132/instID=121 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-GMX-UID: 5ktlZLBieSEkJQY8p3UhaXN1IGRvbwDf X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:20:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:58:07 -0900 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:20:01 -0000 On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, at 11:43AM, Andrew Fremantle wrote: >Here are my requirements >Socket 939 >At least four SATA headers >(preferably) At least two PATA headers >PCIe Gigabit Ethernet You didn't mention what brand of processor, but if you are going AMD64, there is a pretty good list of tested motherboards here: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html I used Socket 940 Tyan myself, and am a big fan of Tyan, but not as many tested Socket 939 Tyan boards on the list. You should be able to find something that works for you on the list though. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 23:15:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E098C16A405 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Received: from altus-escon.com (altesco.xs4all.nl [80.126.48.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B43C13C457 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (stuyts.xs4all.nl [80.126.99.173]) by altus-escon.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l34MgJPS049396 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:42:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: <041C14B4-EEAB-44CF-A3BA-A8EB3D3BA504@altesco.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Stuyts Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:42:13 +0200 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (altus-escon.com [193.78.231.42]); Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:42:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/3014/Wed Apr 4 20:32:14 2007 on earth.altus-escon.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on earth.altus-escon.com Subject: Can't boot after adding tx2plus card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:15:27 -0000 Hi, I am trying to add a Promise Tx2plus card to my FreeBSD releng_6 system. Without the card, it works fine. See dmesg at the end of this message. But after adding the card and hooking up a few drives, the loader seems confused about the boot device, and I get the following error (transcripted by hand): Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff nout found by probes, defaulting to disk0: panic: free: guard1 fail@0x5a0cc from /sources/src/sys/boot/i386/ loader/../../common/module.c:958 --> Press a key on the console to reboot <-- I tried to boot from CD, but this also fails with the TX2plus card present. As soon as it starts loading from the CD, it resets. Just a black screen, and back to the bios memory test. No error messages visible. If I just add the card without adding any drives to it, booting works correctly and sees the new ata channels. The difference is probably that the card's bios is not loaded, and so the FreeBSD loader does not get confused. Any ideas what else I can try? Thanks, Ben dmesg output without the tx2plus: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 14 00:47:38 CET 2007 root@aurora.stuyts.com:/wd/obj/usr/src/sys/AURORA ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2411.60-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1610547200 (1535 MB) avail memory = 1564856320 (1492 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff,0x1000-0x10bf on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em0: port 0xa000-0xa01f mem 0xfa000000-0xfa01ffff irq 18 at device 1.0 on pci2 em0: Ethernet address: 00:20:ed:83:19:ca uhci0: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfa200000-0xfa2003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 pcib3: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 fwohci0: mem 0xfa104000-0xfa1047ff, 0xfa100000-0xfa103fff irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci3 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:20:ed:0a:00:86:78:40 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:20:ed:86:78:40 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:20:ed:86:78:40 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xc000-0xc007,0xc400-0xc403,0xc800-0xc807,0xcc00-0xcc03,0xd000-0xd00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff,0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 0xfa201000-0xfa2011ff,0xfa202000-0xfa2020ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: primary codec not ready! pcm0: acpi_tz0: on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xccfff,0xd0000-0xd7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: A4Tech USB Optical Mouse, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir. Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2411604764 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging unlimited ad0: 117245MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad2: 117246MB at ata1-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDROM at ata1-slave UDMA33 ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master SATA150 ar0: 117245MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad0 at ata0-master ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad2 at ata1-master da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a em0: link state changed to UP _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 23:57:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029CC16A403 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: from users.757.org (users.757.org [70.169.147.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB00D13C448 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: by users.757.org (Postfix, from userid 1123) id A604BA552; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.757.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A504EA54F for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: telmnstr@757.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <041C14B4-EEAB-44CF-A3BA-A8EB3D3BA504@altesco.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Can't boot after adding tx2plus card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:57:36 -0000 > Any ideas what else I can try? I hit something similiar... basically, your card comes up first, so you would need to customize your fstab and perhaps kernel regarding the change in boot devices. My hack was nassssty. Basically, we changed the first few bytes in the firmware image for the promise ultra-ATA card, so that the system bios wouldn't recognize it... reflashed the firmware (basically killing it). Then NetBSD saw the card once it was booting, but the onboard card was picked up first. We had 3 x ultraATA cards on top of whatever was in the system, and the # of drives was to change all the time... See if you can disable the onboard Promise BIOS.... probably not. Promise was of no help, and their flash utility checksummed the firmware so it had to be hacked. I no longer have access to any of that, and a co-worker helped with it as he had experience with the promise cards and knew that the first few bytes of the firmware are what the system bios sees when it scans for other bioses to execute. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 07:26:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD5A16A403 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yokean1@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C413C459 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yokean1@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so723112muf for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:26:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lOfTs3s72Ka0KCClDpxBRvu3gIjN9000hegNhPFEjrJHWWeKyDllEg7fddVpI9fF3s/uZ+wtXidmqIbfiiV6FG6RWE2k+ZwKRC4ivCxW4YsPMp2RG0NftmMeUSnTZbOhnvyaJzaPngG2rDpT3/VSaSNVzjbApVIakLJPRxtKlak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RuAbF0GsswfRo0IdRkJ06dmGgBFmu0+vJwRXRIC5n3xFf2ifPPrSJi2GVxBBwSTNAHOF9mwwgi98ZmJb56eSLVjMu9bRNMEztcNepO0slLYhLFmJyLMllUuRtHxTA1rOLRluFvIKw79H6373G0Zr+DkQNUlX+/Kil1Ets0dF/ug= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr2077942bue.1175757965788; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.168.16 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80b681a50704050026o538f5fa2w2bfb642003c7429c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:26:05 +0800 From: "Ann Lee" To: Simon In-Reply-To: <4613c936.73c986b1.2271.ffff980fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80b681a50704032133s35b8a88by947c3eb5da28c415@mail.gmail.com> <4613c936.73c986b1.2271.ffff980fSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: freebsd 5.4 dual core intel xeon & SAS supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:26:07 -0000 the server will be in the next 2 weeks. 5.5 & 6.2 my apps not supported. hv installed freebsd 6.1 compat5x but not working with my apps. 5.4 i386 tested and no problem. maybe i shd take simon suggestion and install 6.1 amd64. i seen a forum that i386 have issue with 4GB ram, only can detect 3GB. some said hv to use smp kernel for duo core cpu & pae 4 gb ram, gmirror for raid. not sure if it is supported sas harddisk with freebsd 5.4 or hv to build custom kernel to support that. anyone tested with smp kernel, gmirror, pae and make bios raid 1 at HP server, pls send me mail for the link or steps to yokean1@gmail.com and it is greatly appreciated. btw, how u solve ur problem for dell 2950 dual core xeons, Simon? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 10:25:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BBB16A405 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Received: from altus-escon.com (altesco.xs4all.nl [80.126.48.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B15013C45E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (stuyts.xs4all.nl [80.126.99.173]) by altus-escon.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l35APElp099392 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:25:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ben@altesco.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <041C14B4-EEAB-44CF-A3BA-A8EB3D3BA504@altesco.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4502CA4F-7474-494B-B037-661AF76A88B5@altesco.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Stuyts Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:25:07 +0200 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (altus-escon.com [193.78.231.42]); Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:25:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/3020/Thu Apr 5 09:57:16 2007 on earth.altus-escon.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on earth.altus-escon.com Subject: Re: Can't boot after adding tx2plus card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:25:24 -0000 On 5 Apr 2007, at 01:37, telmnstr@757.org wrote: >> Any ideas what else I can try? > > I hit something similiar... basically, your card comes up first, so > you would need to customize your fstab and perhaps kernel regarding > the change in boot devices. > > My hack was nassssty. Basically, we changed the first few bytes in > the firmware image for the promise ultra-ATA card, so that the > system bios wouldn't recognize it... reflashed the firmware > (basically killing it). Then NetBSD saw the card once it was > booting, but the onboard card was picked up first. > > We had 3 x ultraATA cards on top of whatever was in the system, and > the # of drives was to change all the time... > > See if you can disable the onboard Promise BIOS.... probably not. No, I can't disable the BIOS. Your solution (if I could reproduce it...) would seem to work. If I disconnect all drives from the TX2plus, but boot with the card still installed, booting works fine, and FreeBSD sees the card. > Promise was of no help, and their flash utility checksummed the > firmware so it had to be hacked. I no longer have access to any of > that, and a co-worker helped with it as he had experience with the > promise cards and knew that the first few bytes of the firmware are > what the system bios sees when it scans for other bioses to execute. Nice hack! Ben From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 12:48:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F9A16A405 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from mamata.fx-services.com (mamata.fx-services.com [217.25.36.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8393413C44B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from 81-231-109-115-no49.tbcn.telia.com ([81.231.109.115] helo=[192.168.2.160]) by mamata.fx-services.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HZR3Q-0006kw-9q for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:27:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4614F070.2000302@fx-services.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:49:52 +0200 From: Robin Vley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0pre (X11/20070329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Mail is Virus Free, FXS MailGateway X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mamata.fx-services.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fx-services.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:48:32 -0000 Hi! I posted this to the FBSD-Questions mailinglist, because I'm completely not sure if this is hardware or software. Last time I got some good pointers there, but since I'm 100% in the dark where this is coming from, I crosspost it here. For a couple of years already I've been trying to find out why our hosting machine reboots randomly. Got some tips, mostly about hardware. What happens is that both the main server and the backup server (which is just idling) just reboot. Sometimes after 60 days, sometimes after one day. No logs, no strange traffic patterns, nothing. I enabled kernel debugging. Caught a crashdump on our backup machine which I will post below. The process that crashes is the CPU monitor for Cpanel. I disabled that one, so it crashed on any other process (httpd, perl, etc). I tried disabling ACPI, rebuild world with just -O in make.conf, etc etc. This morning the main server rebooted again, it didn't even leave a dump in /var/crash. Hardware is not the same. This behavious I've seen on dual athlons (two different mainboards) and dual Xeons. It seems related to SMP code. Played around with idle and hyperthreading settings in sysctl too. Nothing seems to make any difference at all. The crashump is below, does anyone have ANY idea what might cause this? The machine is running on a SuperMicro Dual Xeon board (X5DPA-TMG+). Crashes happen on this board, but also on the Tyan MPX dual athlon systems. I think it has to be the cpanel hosting panel, but such an application shouldn't be able to to crash the OS... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x98 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06b7f1e stack pointer = 0x28:0xece5f730 frame pointer = 0x28:0xece5f774 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 69885 (dcpumon) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 2d22h1m13s Dumping 2047 MB (2 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 2047MB (523904 pages) 2031 2015 1999 1983 1967 1951 1935 1919 1903 1887 1871 1855 1839 1823 1807 1791 1775 1759 1743 1727 1711 1695 1679 1663 1647 1631 1615 1599 1583 1567 1551 1535 1519 1503 1487 1471 1455 1439 1423 1407 1391 1375 1359 1343 1327 1311 1295 1279 1263 1247 1231 1215 1199 1183 1167 1151 1135 1119 1103 1087 1071 1055 1039 1023 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 735 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 447 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 159 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc063efca in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:399 #2 0xc063f396 in panic (fmt=0xc0870bd4 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:555 #3 0xc082e16c in trap_fatal (frame=0xece5f6f0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:831 #4 0xc082de52 in trap_pfault (frame=0xece5f6f0, usermode=0, eva=152) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:742 #5 0xc082da02 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 8, tf_es = 40, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = 4, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -320473228, tf_isp = -320473316, tf_ebx = 4098, tf_edx = -1002850048, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1066696930, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -320473100, tf_ss = 1017}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:432 #6 0xc0817d0a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #7 0xc06b7f1e in vn_lock (vp=0x0, flags=4098, td=0xc439b900) at atomic.h:149 #8 0xc05eee46 in procfs_doprocfile (td=0xc439b900, p=0xc9068830, pn=0xc35f3900, sb=0x4, uio=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/fs/procfs/procfs.c:73 #9 0xc05f3f5b in pfs_readlink (va=0x4) at pcpu.h:162 #10 0xc0841a13 in VOP_READLINK_APV (vop=0x4, a=0xc439b900) at vnode_if.c:1481 #11 0xc06b14e3 in kern_readlink (td=0xc439b900, path=0xc439b900 ", bufseg=4, count=1024) at vnode_if.h:772 #12 0xc06b13e8 in readlink (td=0x4, uap=0xc439b900) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:2261 #13 0xc082e573 in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = 59, tf_es = 59, tf_ds = 59, tf_edi = 135512892, tf_esi = 135663632, tf_ebp = -1077940936, tf_isp = -320471708, tf_ebx = 674109588, tf_edx = -1077941960, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 58, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672579140, tf_cs = 51, tf_eflags = 647, tf_esp = -1077942020, tf_ss = 59}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:976 #14 0xc0817d5f in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:200 #15 0x00000033 in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) /Robin _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Robin Vley F/X Services Managed Hosting http://www.fx-services.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 13:55:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C94616A404 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BDC13C46C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r28so313855nza for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=miKlM8GFPvcjEndr+WvfmC9C9c+tUnYtxbO3LedddX90kM6FXSaRqdy6r4PT5H+Mc464vV6dgMMTJtdXHNNGBv7R02ryQ26UGLAeJ0PHie7LmhlzkdEB8hFwrwAOu4UARqdgDiN8hkOzcHZpLaCpbv0BQVUWSGtV0qS8wAVz8aQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KgKxKRNhr89UtF+OjjR+1LSkdaek+qk/UwzGwcW63kvKIu+7HnXk2K/5uzpTXp/laN7x8Qdr6sr5G+mP3VTXI7CdOnRX1bg+4qahym700mtqaZtFck75LuRbGkgD78c+hjTzb/f2nVsctgbAZ+SJcLKrDzF94+SIL3NmvPriX7w= Received: by 10.114.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr765316wae.1175781344735; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.10 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:55:44 +0300 From: "George Kontostanos" To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200703301545.48686.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200703301040.37285.jhb@freebsd.org> <200703301545.48686.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP BL460c X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:55:48 -0000 Hi John, I tested the blades on the AMD platform with the Embedded NC370i Network adapter and it works fine under 6-stable. I was wondering if there is any patch that I could apply under 6-2 release for that network adapter. The reason I'm asking is because we are talking for 3 servers 2ns and 1mail and it would make me feel better following the release branch. Thanks again, George Kontostanos On 3/30/07, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Friday 30 March 2007 01:41:47 pm George Kontostanos wrote: > > On 3/30/07, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > > On Friday 30 March 2007 09:46:53 am George Kontostanos wrote: > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > > > We are about to proceed to a major upgrade for our servers. I was > > > looking > > > > at the new HP ProLiant BL460c witch according to the technical specs > at: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant-bl/c-class/460c/specifications.htmlcomes > > > > with the embedded NC370i network controller. However, after a lot of > > > > goggling I found out that there are compatibility problems with that > > > > controller. Any suggestions are kindly welcomed. > > > > > > If it's the bce(4) part with SerDes RELENG_6 will support it, though > 6.2 > > > doesn't. 6.3 will include fully support however. > > > > > > -- > > > John Baldwin > > > > > > It is the : > > > > Embedded NC370i Multifunction Gigabit Server Adapter Network Processor > > Broadcom 5706 > > > > I saw that HP ships that adapter only in the AMD platform which I'm > > considering of purchasing. > > Any ideas about that ? > > That should work with bce(4) in 6.x-stable. > > -- > John Baldwin > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 15:49:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F28A16A403 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A086213C465 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (hmdazw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l35FnNvw013724; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:49:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l35FnNTw013723; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:49:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200704051549.l35FnNTw013723@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, gkontos.mail@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:49:29 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: HP BL460c X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, gkontos.mail@gmail.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:49:31 -0000 George Kontostanos wrote: > I tested the blades on the AMD platform with the Embedded NC370i Network > adapter and it works fine under 6-stable. I was wondering if there is any > patch that I could apply under 6-2 release for that network adapter. The > reason I'm asking is because we are talking for 3 servers 2ns and 1mail and > it would make me feel better following the release branch. I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I've upgraded a lot of machines from 6.2-Release along RELENG_6 and haven't had a single problem. In fact some things seem more stable under RELENG_6 than under 6.2-R, for example NFS (seems to be faster, too, although I haven't done any benchmarks). YMMV, of course. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb." -- Steve Haflich, in comp.lang.c++ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:05:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D5216A404 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A443A13C484 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 19454 invoked by uid 110); 5 Apr 2007 17:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2007 17:05:21 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , "Robin Vley" Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:03:20 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <4614F070.2000302@fx-services.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070405170522.A443A13C484@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:05:23 -0000 Get=206.2,=205.4=20is=20old=20and=20is=20known=20to=20have=20kernel=20bugs= =20that=20are=20fixed=20in=206.x. -Simon On=20Thu,=2005=20Apr=202007=2014:49:52=20+0200,=20Robin=20Vley=20wrote: >Hi! >I=20posted=20this=20to=20the=20FBSD-Questions=20mailinglist,=20because=20= I'm=20completely >not=20sure=20if=20this=20is=20hardware=20or=20software.=20Last=20time=20I= =20got=20some=20good >pointers=20there,=20but=20since=20I'm=20100%=20in=20the=20dark=20where=20= this=20is=20coming >from,=20I=20crosspost=20it=20here. >For=20a=20couple=20of=20years=20already=20I've=20been=20trying=20to=20fin= d=20out=20why=20our >hosting=20machine=20reboots=20randomly.=20Got=20some=20tips,=20mostly=20a= bout=20hardware. >What=20happens=20is=20that=20both=20the=20main=20server=20and=20the=20bac= kup=20server=20(which >is=20just=20idling)=20just=20reboot.=20Sometimes=20after=2060=20days,=20s= ometimes=20after >one=20day.=20No=20logs,=20no=20strange=20traffic=20patterns,=20nothing.=20= I=20enabled=20kernel >debugging.=20Caught=20a=20crashdump=20on=20our=20backup=20machine=20which= =20I=20will=20post >below.=20The=20process=20that=20crashes=20is=20the=20CPU=20monitor=20for=20= Cpanel.=20I >disabled=20that=20one,=20so=20it=20crashed=20on=20any=20other=20process=20= (httpd,=20perl, >etc).=20I=20tried=20disabling=20ACPI,=20rebuild=20world=20with=20just=20-= O=20in=20make.conf, >etc=20etc.=20This=20morning=20the=20main=20server=20rebooted=20again,=20i= t=20didn't=20even >leave=20a=20dump=20in=20/var/crash.=20Hardware=20is=20not=20the=20same.=20= This=20behavious >I've=20seen=20on=20dual=20athlons=20(two=20different=20mainboards)=20and=20= dual=20Xeons.=20It >seems=20related=20to=20SMP=20code.=20Played=20around=20with=20idle=20and=20= hyperthreading >settings=20in=20sysctl=20too.=20Nothing=20seems=20to=20make=20any=20diffe= rence=20at=20all.=20The >crashump=20is=20below,=20does=20anyone=20have=20ANY=20idea=20what=20might= =20cause=20this? >The=20machine=20is=20running=20on=20a=20SuperMicro=20Dual=20Xeon=20board=20= (X5DPA-TMG+). >Crashes=20happen=20on=20this=20board,=20but=20also=20on=20the=20Tyan=20MP= X=20dual=20athlon >systems.=20I=20think=20it=20has=20to=20be=20the=20cpanel=20hosting=20pane= l,=20but=20such=20an >application=20shouldn't=20be=20able=20to=20to=20crash=20the=20OS... >Fatal=20trap=2012:=20page=20fault=20while=20in=20kernel=20mode >cpuid=20=3D=200;=20apic=20id=20=3D=2001 >fault=20virtual=20address=20=20=20=3D=200x98 >fault=20code=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20supervisor=20= write,=20page=20not=20present >instruction=20pointer=20=20=20=20=20=3D=200x20:0xc06b7f1e >stack=20pointer=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=200x28:0xece5f730 >frame=20pointer=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=200x28:0xece5f774 >code=20segment=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20base=200x0,=20lim= it=200xfffff,=20type=200x1b >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D= =20DPL=200,=20pres=201,=20def32=201,=20gran=201 >processor=20eflags=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20interrupt=20enabled,=20re= sume,=20IOPL=20=3D=200 >current=20process=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=2069885=20(dcpumon) >trap=20number=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=3D=2012 >panic:=20page=20fault >cpuid=20=3D=200 >Uptime:=202d22h1m13s >Dumping=202047=20MB=20(2=20chunks) >=20=20chunk=200:=201MB=20(159=20pages)=20...=20ok >=20=20chunk=201:=202047MB=20(523904=20pages)=202031=202015=201999=201983=20= 1967=201951=201935=201919 >1903=201887=201871=201855=201839=201823=201807=201791=201775=201759=20174= 3=201727=201711=201695 >1679=201663=201647=201631=201615=201599=201583=201567=201551=201535=20151= 9=201503=201487=201471 >1455=201439=201423=201407=201391=201375=201359=201343=201327=201311=20129= 5=201279=201263=201247 >1231=201215=201199=201183=201167=201151=201135=201119=201103=201087=20107= 1=201055=201039=201023 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>#9=20=200xc05f3f5b=20in=20pfs_readlink=20(va=3D0x4)=20at=20pcpu.h:162 >#10=200xc0841a13=20in=20VOP_READLINK_APV=20(vop=3D0x4,=20a=3D0xc439b900)=20= at >vnode_if.c:1481 >#11=200xc06b14e3=20in=20kern_readlink=20(td=3D0xc439b900,=20path=3D0xc439= b900=20"x\006=C9",=20pathseg=3D3292117248,=20buf=3D0x4=20,=20bufseg=3D4, >=20=20=20=20count=3D1024)=20at=20vnode_if.h:772 >#12=200xc06b13e8=20in=20readlink=20(td=3D0x4,=20uap=3D0xc439b900)=20at >/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:2261 >#13=200xc082e573=20in=20syscall=20(frame=3D >=20=20=20=20=20=20{tf_fs=20=3D=2059,=20tf_es=20=3D=2059,=20tf_ds=20=3D=20= 59,=20tf_edi=20=3D=20135512892,=20tf_esi=20=3D >135663632,=20tf_ebp=20=3D=20-1077940936,=20tf_isp=20=3D=20-320471708,=20t= f_ebx=20=3D >674109588,=20tf_edx=20=3D=20-1077941960,=20tf_ecx=20=3D=200,=20tf_eax=20=3D= =2058,=20tf_trapno=20=3D=200, >tf_err=20=3D=202,=20tf_eip=20=3D=20672579140,=20tf_cs=20=3D=2051,=20tf_ef= lags=20=3D=20647,=20tf_esp=20=3D >-1077942020,=20tf_ss=20=3D=2059})=20at=20/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:97= 6 >#14=200xc0817d5f=20in=20Xint0x80_syscall=20()=20at >/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:200 >#15=200x00000033=20in=20??=20() >Previous=20frame=20inner=20to=20this=20frame=20(corrupt=20stack?) >/Robin >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20mailing=20list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To=20unsubscribe,=20send=20any=20mail=20to=20"freebsd-questions-unsubscri= be@freebsd.org" >--=20 >Robin=20Vley >F/X=20Services=20Managed=20Hosting >http://www.fx-services.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20mailing=20list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To=20unsubscribe,=20send=20any=20mail=20to=20"freebsd-hardware-unsubscrib= e@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 18:13:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66716A403 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from mamata.fx-services.com (mamata.fx-services.com [217.25.36.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B47713C458 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from 81-231-109-115-no49.tbcn.telia.com ([81.231.109.115] helo=[192.168.2.160]) by mamata.fx-services.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HZWSU-000BR4-CZ for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:13:23 +0200 Message-ID: <46154193.7020706@fx-services.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:36:03 +0200 From: Robin Vley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0pre (X11/20070329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" References: <20070405170522.A443A13C484@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070405170522.A443A13C484@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Mail is Virus Free, FXS MailGateway X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mamata.fx-services.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fx-services.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:13:19 -0000 Simon wrote: Simon, > Get 6.2, 5.4 is old and is known to have kernel bugs that are fixed in 6.x. Sorry, should have mentioned it in the mail. The main system is still running 5.4. I knew that was not a good thing to test on, so I upgraded the backup system (the idle box) to 6.0-RELEASE. I might try to upgrade to 6.2 to give it a try (again). I also tried with different HT and idle settings on the 5.4 box, to no effect. Any other ideas where this is even coming from or where I have to look for the cause? -- Robin Vley F/X Services Managed Hosting http://www.fx-services.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 19:00:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AEE16A404 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5A913C45D for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 42707 invoked by uid 110); 5 Apr 2007 19:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2007 19:00:43 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , "Robin Vley" Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:58:42 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <46154193.7020706@fx-services.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070405190044.6B5A913C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:00:44 -0000 Before looking at anything you need to upgrade to RELENG_6_2, 6.0-R is not enough, I personally had panics even under 6.1-R. Second, disable HT, it's useless and might cause more problems than good. Also, disable any idle controls, they are unnecessary in sever environment -- you do not want your machine's CPU or harddrive off for immediate response to client requests. Are you trying to save on power? -Simon On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:36:03 +0200, Robin Vley wrote: >Simon wrote: >Simon, >> Get 6.2, 5.4 is old and is known to have kernel bugs that are fixed in 6.x. >Sorry, should have mentioned it in the mail. The main system is still >running 5.4. I knew that was not a good thing to test on, so I upgraded >the backup system (the idle box) to 6.0-RELEASE. I might try to upgrade >to 6.2 to give it a try (again). I also tried with different HT and idle >settings on the 5.4 box, to no effect. >Any other ideas where this is even coming from or where I have to look >for the cause? >-- >Robin Vley >F/X Services Managed Hosting >http://www.fx-services.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 20:50:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4D316A500 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from mamata.fx-services.com (mamata.fx-services.com [217.25.36.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5D113C45E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viper@fx-services.com) Received: from 81-231-109-115-no49.tbcn.telia.com ([81.231.109.115] helo=[192.168.2.160]) by mamata.fx-services.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HZYuH-000CkW-5Q for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:50:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4615665C.5030108@fx-services.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:13:00 +0200 From: Robin Vley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0pre (X11/20070329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" References: <20070405190044.6B5A913C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070405190044.6B5A913C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Mail is Virus Free, FXS MailGateway X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mamata.fx-services.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fx-services.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:50:14 -0000 Simon wrote: Simon, > Before looking at anything you need to upgrade to RELENG_6_2, 6.0-R is > not enough, I personally had panics even under 6.1-R. Second, disable OK. Will do. > HT, it's useless and might cause more problems than good. Also, disable The backup machine (that's going to 6.2 now) is dual Athlon MP. No HT there. WIth the Xeons I've tried to disable it via sysctl, but not via the BIOS. Will try that tomorrow. > any idle controls, they are unnecessary in sever environment -- you do not True. I read some things about them and tried both enabled and disabled. No difference in my problem. > want your machine's CPU or harddrive off for immediate response to > client requests. Are you trying to save on power? Not at all. I'm trying to fix a problem that's been bugging me on different platforms with different versions for years now. :) ANY setting will do for me, as long as the thing stops rebooting itself. -- Robin Vley F/X Services Managed Hosting http://www.fx-services.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 13:26:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906016A401 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@fromorbit.com) Received: from thing1.auspcmarket.com.au (thing1.auspcmarket.com.au [203.31.169.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653B813C44C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@fromorbit.com) Received: from [192.168.1.99] (unknown [192.168.1.99]) by thing1.auspcmarket.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA045DA7 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:05:04 +1000 (EST) From: Alan Garfield To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:05:03 +1000 Message-Id: <1175864703.4058.20.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Porting a Linux ethernet driver to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:26:47 -0000 Hello all! I'm posting here because I cannot find enough information elsewhere. I've got a Sun Fire V20z (re-badged NewISys E2100) which has a little dedicated Service Processor on board running Linux. The "SP" can communicate via IPMI and also by Ethernet via two small fifo buffer in the PRS via the LPC. I have the GPL source for the so-called 'jnet' device which is basically a small Ethernet-looking driver that wraps around these 256 byte PRS buffers and a single interrupt. -- FROM THE GPL DRIVER COMMENTS Jnet is a ethernet adapter driver. As such, it provides what appears to be a typical ethernet adapter interface which the platform can use to send/receive IP traffic to the SP. The actual physical medium is the PRS, which resides on the LPC bus, and provides two 256 byte fifo's along with an interrupt and a status register. When an interrupt is received, the status register can be read, which will indicate either a Data Available (DAV), or a Data Acknowledge (DAK). We can then choose to read or write data to the fifo, and thus facilitate communication between the SP and Platform. Because the fifo's provided by the PRS are only 256 bytes, our packet size is limited. As a result, the only feature we can't support is DHCP, since a DHCP packet is 313 bytes. -- I'd like to port this driver to FreeBSD but I cannot find any decent examples of a basic Ethernet driver. Most have miibus which I don't need because there is no PHY, the loopback is clone-able and seems to simple and most of the others are all so different from each other I cannot really tell where to start. Can someone point me in the direction of an example or the relevant man pages I should be reading. The device driver for Linux seems quite simple and clearly defined, but I cannot find a similar driver that I can hack apart. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks, Alan Garfield. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 18:59:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283DF16A403 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00FA13C455 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (c-69-249-95-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.249.95.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l36IbS9D075293 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l36IbNFe071482 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:37:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l36IbNEF071481 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:37:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:37:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:59:08 -0000 Hi, I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't be a major deal, but it does seem to be. I'm looking to replace an ASUS AP1600R-S5. I just want something that has the same sort of setup (Dual Xeons, 4G mem in enough chips I can remove 1/2 if there a memory issue suspected, 4 small size hot swap drives), CD/floppy INTERNAL this time, I need a SCSI on a different port/channel/etc externally for a RAID, and a redundant power supply would be really nice. Trying to get companies to contact me back and get numbers that make sense is really problematic. Am I asking for too much? Or too little? Or too old (SCSI). Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 19:38:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B8816A402 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: from users.757.org (users.757.org [70.169.147.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC0C13C448 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: by users.757.org (Postfix, from userid 1123) id E8229A558; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.757.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76EBA552 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: telmnstr@757.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Message-ID: References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:38:04 -0000 > I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere > responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't be Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 19:47:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C2C16A402 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A8F13C45D for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from cust16202.lava.net ([64.65.95.74] helo=[192.168.0.102]) by rip.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HZuDV-000FFA-GA; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:35:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4616A0EF.107@psg.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:35:11 -1000 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:47:29 -0000 i am just a satisfied customer of Erol Mustafa From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:01:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B9C16A401 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122213C448 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (localhost.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l36JgnJw089205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:42:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l36Jgneq089204; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:42:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:42:49 -0500 From: Josh Tolbert To: telmnstr@757.org Message-ID: <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:42:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:01:02 -0000 On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:38:03PM -0400, telmnstr@757.org wrote: > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere > >responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't be > > Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. Except the head of HP. :) Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:08:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F2316A405 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: from users.757.org (users.757.org [70.169.147.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389EF13C45E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: by users.757.org (Postfix, from userid 1123) id B0E5DA558; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.757.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB93A552 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: telmnstr@757.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> Message-ID: References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:08:38 -0000 >> Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. > Except the head of HP. :) Hahaha! Good riddance! From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 00:45:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B087516A402 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from ruth.realtime.net (mercury.realtime.net [205.238.132.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7409E13C45E for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain (cpe-72-177-112-115.austin.res.rr.com [72.177.112.115]) by realtime.net (Realtime Communications Advanced E-Mail Services V9.2) with ESMTP id 70723231-1817707 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:05:11 -0500 Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3705A8D093577 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:05:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb@tigerfish2.my.domain) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l3705A3S093576 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:05:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:05:10 -0500 From: Bruce Burden To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070407000510.GB70451@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:45:31 -0000 On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 02:42:49PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:38:03PM -0400, telmnstr@757.org wrote: > > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere > > >responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't be > Have you considered building your own server? I don't know that it would be that much different in price, and you seem to know what you want. > > > > > Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. > > Except the head of HP. :) > I wish I was going to be sent on my way with a cool $25 million like Carly... Bruce -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 7 07:12:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF8C16A401 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A71213C44C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l376vLAB081709; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:57:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l376vLKV081708; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:57:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:57:21 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Bruce Burden Message-ID: <20070407065720.GE71995@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> <20070407000510.GB70451@tigerfish2.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070407000510.GB70451@tigerfish2.my.domain> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 07:12:11 -0000 --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-Apr-06 19:05:10 -0500, Bruce Burden wrote: >On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 02:42:49PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:38:03PM -0400, telmnstr@757.org wrote: >> > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere >> > >responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't be >> > Have you considered building your own server? I don't > know that it would be that much different in price, and > you seem to know what you want. The main (only) reason for buying a server instead of building it would be to have hardware support. >> > Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. >> Except the head of HP. :) > I wish I was going to be sent on my way with a cool > $25 million like Carly... Senior executives can't lose. Either the company does well and they get performance bonuses or the company loses tons of money, they resign or are pushed and get massive golden parachutes. --=20 Peter Jeremy --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGF0DQ/opHv/APuIcRAqTDAKDB6Ofuz9ok/OwrHdWV6gFfsrav1gCfdI1W E7b8XBuYO35jRcI/dH073/A= =vurz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU--