From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 07:18:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77D16A468; Sun, 27 May 2007 07:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A8A13C458; Sun, 27 May 2007 07:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JIO00037TKRMJ01@mta01.eastlink.ca>; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:48:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO dwpc.dwlabs.ca) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:08:08 -0300 Received: from dwpc.dwlabs.ca (imap.dwlabs.ca [192.168.0.10]) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4R6mo8D001476; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:48:56 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca) Received: (from duane@localhost) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id l4R6moNx001475; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:48:50 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 03:48:50 -0300 From: Duane Whitty To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAEHGWEYY4MfmdGdsb2JhbACBSo4zATc X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,583,1170648000"; d="scan'208"; a="228696376:sNHT25378614" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.6, clamav-milter version 0.88.6 on dwpc.dwlabs.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on dwpc.dwlabs.ca User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 Cc: Duane Whitty Subject: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Duane Whitty List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 07:18:29 -0000 Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running twice? I thought I saw something about this on one of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't located it yet. FreeBSD dwpc.dwlabs.ca 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #1: Sun May 27 00:48:45 ADT 2007 duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DWPC-KERNEL i386 Fresh cvsup on May 26, 2007 at roughly 0:00h GMT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 9728 May 27 02:46 /boot/kernel Just finished upgrading STABLE in hopes my problem would be magically fixed Here's what I did: cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel (reboot into single-user mode) fsk -p mount -u / mount -a -t ufs swapon -a mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster (reboot mutli-user) No errors reported during above process. I'd rather not advertise my running config to the entire Internet at large but if anyone has any ideas I'd happily make my boot logs available. Sincerely, thanks in advance Duane Whitty From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 11:20:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5378E16A400 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 11:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F1013C455 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so658705uge for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 04:20:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e6DL6O3IOqaToTVk0Zx/IA7c4x4iAxlOeQK2GnHMoBey8+6+ziKJ6SYPS+HrLxqCOwSPS5e9XZWIJibaFJywAdmkymMse4gvbiSN5wHRLzYVf9wNFT6yJuoI2MrJpheJx0qJMfy4wvRTMQo3ancBZkDg+Thawk1YxPCL2wPWS+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pa+x0YzFuFa/RXvwf0uqBn2IDkrlCV0moBghUZhXt6yYfuolMchcgqodxytPhWBj6/Zj1Srq7lpTwbMeJvoJ6u9d9OnoWJPujSGu9pztYXG/fYemnRWGK1if1ZWLhFlc4P+TEARlKAenxaNkqhJiX5AGIvJdpDDsbP9n4BZV5Oo= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr4417258ugl.1180263152924; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.9.8? ( [91.135.49.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c1sm8585635ugf.2007.05.27.03.52.32; Sun, 27 May 2007 03:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <465962EC.7040508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 12:52:28 +0200 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Walthall References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> In-Reply-To: <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:20:25 -0000 John Walthall wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:10:06AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD >> installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. >> >> Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some >> of which I have); > [...] > > And let's not forget the infamous geometry bug! For me, at least sysinstall has always, 100% of the time, incorrectly detected my disc geometry. > > Sysinstall is adequate, nothing more, nothing less. I don't mean though, to belittle the efforts of the developers; these days people are going to expect it to be polished on the order of YaST, which is ridiculous. Sysinstall is functional. > > Although irritated, variously, by every one of these issues, I am most concerned about the geometry bug, it looks lackadaisical. > > It is worth noting however, that of all the BSD's I have tried, FreeBSD has the best installer. NetBSD's installer isn't half bad, but doesn't have the scope of sysinstall, and is much less valuable as a configuration tool. OpenBSD's installer is Spartan; like the rest of OpenBSD, only more-so. I should not like ever to use OpenBSD's nightmarish installer again. > > If people have trouble with sysinstall-the-configuration-tool, perhaps they might examine sysutils/webmin? > Off topic! What can i do to see the correct geometry on my disks?? -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 12:18:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C7A16A47B for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFC813C487 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l4RCIcsn012028; Sun, 27 May 2007 05:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id l4RCIbYE012027; Sun, 27 May 2007 05:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 05:18:37 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Duane Whitty Message-ID: <20070527121837.GG5698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Duane Whitty , stable@freebsd.org References: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 12:18:50 -0000 --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 03:48:50AM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: > Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running > twice? I thought I saw something about this on one > of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't > located it yet. >... I think I first noticed it about a week ago, but I was rather caught up in the X.org upgrade at the time, and didn't pursue it then. I'm actually seeing it in both STABLE and CURRENT -- I track each (in separate slices) on my laptop, using a common /usr/local. Running "rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*" doesn't show anything too bizarre. There was one of the /etc/rc.d scripts where rcorder claimed a "circular dependency," but I hacked that to avoid the circularity, and the duplicate script invocation persists. So I'm afraid I don't have much to add that's constructive. :-( Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Anything and everything is a (potential) cat toy. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkZZdxwACgkQmprOCmdXAD0vkQCfeA9o+xiMvFKvEH6rLvMjPa+m acYAn0B0mRm3FjUi+pQq/GqOgde9pbBQ =IsWA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 12:36:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BCE16A480 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caelian@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B735E13C480 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caelian@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so667963uge for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 05:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=WmYbLwta2O9rzA1Sk56Msczak1logX0wHTq/kJ4SQpNQKL1tQ8lw6lhkeO0oGDmQgwYKNobojDTV9zxZRPkw7PWd9Hy4fTdNWJEyInSDSsafHOb27jwv5pmMtJBIobl+ly4jiG3pjITqIwKzoZBOnUF7lEjIK8aCgH2rGaMgOFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=TT/vKsS9gYt8VPhk2QBVQVDod+8qQSJDbh4JKaoctrZTF1VsZFp7dD4IRCOrtJDkxAcfR/EGekWs+A0E3eW3IrkjnOsVh63HNb3HYU7RmFxxkmSEDuddPIL1nBRbxEmMDpmygbXcdF4uh1D0dBk2MnshJrJnzmuCYBRFAe2oyzg= Received: by 10.82.169.4 with SMTP id r4mr8842042bue.1180267875174; Sun, 27 May 2007 05:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.16.0.8? ( [84.129.238.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y37sm11193921iky.2007.05.27.05.11.14; Sun, 27 May 2007 05:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Pascal Hofstee To: Duane Whitty In-Reply-To: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> References: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:11:13 +0200 Message-Id: <1180267873.19278.26.camel@neo.zion> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 12:36:56 -0000 On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 03:48 -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: > Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running > twice? I thought I saw something about this on one > of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't > located it yet. In assuming "local rc scripts" means anything installed by ports ... i am assuming you installed a fresh Xorg-7.2 and now at some point ended up with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink. If the above assumption holds true ... did you run the mergebase.sh script as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING ? Most significantly .. this script adds the following entry to your /etc/rc.conf local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" The default entry in /etc/defaults/rc.conf still references /usr/X1R6/etc/rc.d as well ... since the latter is now a symlink to the former, both rc.d-paths contain the same scripts. If your rc.conf doesn't contain the aforementioned entry, that would explain why local rc-scripts are started twice. -- Pascal Hofstee From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 12:53:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC79816A47E for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@pcuse.com) Received: from ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769BC13C4C1 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 12:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@pcuse.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,584,1170595800"; d="scan'208";a="134798843" Received: from ppp62-206.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO sagan.cai) ([121.45.62.206]) by ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 27 May 2007 22:23:20 +0930 Received: by sagan.cai (Postfix, from userid 1100) id BA85F1CC6A; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:23:34 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:23:34 +0930 From: Shaun Branden To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 2571 65A6 1F38 0168 63CB BCE5 CA20 7F19 AA92 1949 X-GPG-Key: AA921949 Website: http://pcuse.com ICQ: 10469563 Jabber: shaun@pcuse.com VoIP: sip:0871270164@sip.internode.on.net Subject: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 12:53:23 -0000 I just updated my system from xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 root@sagan:xorg-libraries$ portversion -v|grep "<" xorg-libraries-7.2 < needs updating (port has 7.2_1) and had a little trouble with portupgrade ===> Cleaning for xorg-libraries-7.2_1 Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg 7.2. *** Error code 1 until I used export XORG_UPGRADE=yes from /usr/ports/UPDATING. Do I have to do this everytime I run portupgrade? UPDATING says: It is necessary to set the XORG_UPGRADE environment variable while updating from xorg 6.9 to 7.2. Once the upgrade is complete this is no longer be required. xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to start with. uname -a FreeBSD sagan.cai 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Fri May 25 20:45:33 CST 2007 shaun@sagan.cai:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SAGAN i386 thanks shaun -- Shaun Branden: Alchemist and Bit Bender PGP and contact details in the headers. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 13:41:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B4E16A46C for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 13:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84213C4BA for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 13:41:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E728205; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:20:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 50B1E3420F8; Sun, 27 May 2007 08:21:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:21:31 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel To: Shaun Branden Message-ID: <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Paetzel List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 13:41:42 -0000 Shaun Branden wrote: > I just updated my system from xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 > > root@sagan:xorg-libraries$ portversion -v|grep "<" > xorg-libraries-7.2 < needs updating (port has 7.2_1) > > and had a little trouble with portupgrade > > ===> Cleaning for xorg-libraries-7.2_1 > Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg > 7.2. > *** Error code 1 > > until I used export XORG_UPGRADE=yes from /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > Do I have to do this everytime I run portupgrade? > > UPDATING says: > It is necessary to set the XORG_UPGRADE environment variable while > updating from xorg 6.9 to 7.2. Once the upgrade is complete this > is no longer be required. > > xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to start > with. > > uname -a > FreeBSD sagan.cai 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Fri May 25 20:45:33 CST 2007 shaun@sagan.cai:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SAGAN i386 > > thanks > > shaun > -- > Shaun Branden: Alchemist and Bit Bender > PGP and contact details in the headers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > For right now if you want portupgrade to do anything with xorg you need to export XORG_UPGRADE -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 14:18:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F1016A469 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@pcuse.com) Received: from ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8AD13C48A for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@pcuse.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,584,1170595800"; d="scan'208";a="134817761" Received: from ppp62-206.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO sagan.cai) ([121.45.62.206]) by ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 27 May 2007 23:48:53 +0930 Received: by sagan.cai (Postfix, from userid 1100) id 500241CC6A; Sun, 27 May 2007 23:49:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 23:49:08 +0930 From: Shaun Branden To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20070527141908.GB81644@pcuse.com> References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 2571 65A6 1F38 0168 63CB BCE5 CA20 7F19 AA92 1949 X-GPG-Key: AA921949 Website: http://pcuse.com ICQ: 10469563 Jabber: shaun@pcuse.com VoIP: sip:0871270164@sip.internode.on.net Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:18:57 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 03:01:18PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Josh Paetzel wrote: > > Shaun Branden wrote: >=20 > >> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to sta= rt > >> with. >=20 > > For right now if you want portupgrade to do anything with xorg you > > need to export XORG_UPGRADE >=20 > Creating the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink is necessary, even on a > system with xorg 7.2 installed from scratch. The presence of that > symlink will stop the xorg-libraries port whinging at you. =20 >=20 > There are a couple of other bits that need twiddling in the default > system, and a very handy way of getting them all to happen is by=20 > running mergebase.sh. On a completely virgin newly instaleld system, > with /usr/ports populated, but no ports yet installed you may need > to: >=20 > mkdir /usr/X11R6 >=20 > to give that script something to chew on, and then just: >=20 > sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh >=20 > before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. Yeah, I have already run that script but no symlink is created: root@sagan:ports$ ls -l /usr/ total 108 drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 May 9 16:17 .snap drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 May 20 19:03 X11R6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 7168 May 25 20:55 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 25 20:53 games drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 512 May 11 17:52 home drwxr-xr-x 47 root wheel 4608 May 25 20:53 include drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 9728 May 25 20:55 lib drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 libdata drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 1536 May 25 20:55 libexec drwxr-xr-x 26 root wheel 512 May 26 19:14 local drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 25 19:53 obj drwxr-xr-x 70 root wheel 1536 May 27 23:36 ports drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 5120 May 25 20:55 sbin drwxr-xr-x 27 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 share drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 May 19 18:53 src root@sagan:ports$ sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh This script will attempt to backup /usr/X11R6 into /usr/tmp/mergebase/oldx11base.20070527.233644.tar and then move the contents onto /usr/local. It will then replace /usr/X11R6 with a symbolic link, pointing to /usr/local. After that, the script will attempt to change some settings in /etc that by default point to both /usr/X11R6 and /usr/local to remove references to /usr/X11R6; specifically, the files that could get altered are /etc/periodic.conf /etc/manpath.config /etc/rc.conf. Be advised that this script expects default environment, notably it assumes that you have not changed $X11BASE and $LOCALBASE variables from their default values and that /usr/X11R6 is regular directory and not separate mount. If these assumptions are not correct, either edit this script to change $X11BASE $LOCALBASE and/or $BACKUPDIR values or do the merge by hand (perhaps using this script as a rough guide). Enter 'yes' to continue, anything else will exit script: yes CONFLICTING FILES: =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-af.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ar.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-az.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-be.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bg.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bn.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bn_IN.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-br.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-bs.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ca.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-cs.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-cy.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-da.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-de.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-dz.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-el.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-en_CA.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-en_GB.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-eo.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-es.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-et.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-eu.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-fa.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-fi.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-fr.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ga.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-gl.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-gu.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-he.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-hi.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-hr.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-hu.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-hy.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-id.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-is.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-it.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ja.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ka.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-km.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ko.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ky.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-li.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-lt.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-lv.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-mg.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-mk.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ml.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-mn.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-mr.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ms.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-nb.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ne.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-nl.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-nn.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-no.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-nso.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-or.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-pa.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-pl.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-pt.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-pt_BR.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ro.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ru.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sk.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sl.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sq.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sr.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sr@Latn.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sr@ije.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-sv.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-ta.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-te.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-th.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-tk.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-tr.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-tt.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-uk.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-vi.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-wa.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-xh.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-yi.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-zh_CN.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-zh_HK.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-zh_TW.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-zu.xml =2E/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml =2E/etc/settings/.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock =2E/etc/settings/qt_plugins_3.3rc =2E/man/whatis Files that exist both in /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 have been found as shown above. Merging will not continue. While some such files are safe to remove as they will be regenerated (like /usr/X11R6/man/whatis), some you might want to move away somewhere safe, and some might point to conflicts in ports. For this script to continue, you need to either move these files away from /usr/X11R6 or delete them. If you don't know what to do about a particular file, ask on x11@FreeBSD.org mailing list. The list is saved in /tmp/mergebase.gVVGMngT. root@sagan:ports$ ls -l /usr/ total 108 drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 May 9 16:17 .snap drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 May 20 19:03 X11R6 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 7168 May 25 20:55 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 25 20:53 games drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 512 May 11 17:52 home drwxr-xr-x 47 root wheel 4608 May 25 20:53 include drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 9728 May 25 20:55 lib drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 libdata drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 1536 May 25 20:55 libexec drwxr-xr-x 26 root wheel 512 May 26 19:14 local drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 25 19:53 obj drwxr-xr-x 70 root wheel 1536 May 27 23:36 ports drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 5120 May 25 20:55 sbin drwxr-xr-x 27 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 share drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 May 19 18:53 src root@sagan:ports$ ls -la /usr/X11R6/ total 96 drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 May 20 19:03 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Apr 30 2006 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 7680 May 20 19:08 bin drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 May 20 19:05 etc drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 8704 May 20 19:08 include drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 20 18:59 info drwxr-xr-x 15 root wheel 12800 May 20 19:08 lib drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Apr 29 2006 libdata drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jan 20 01:59 libexec drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 512 May 26 04:20 man drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 May 22 06:53 share root@sagan:ports$ ls -la /usr/local/ total 392 drwxr-xr-x 26 root wheel 512 May 26 19:14 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Apr 30 2006 .. drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 21 09:23 Adobe drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 20 18:59 GNUstep drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 40960 May 27 23:08 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 21 06:55 build-1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 May 26 19:14 childsplay drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 21 06:39 env drwxr-xr-x 35 root wheel 2048 May 27 23:08 etc drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 23 21:30 gcc-ooo drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 May 21 06:42 gnu-autotools drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 34304 May 27 23:08 include drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 May 26 20:30 info drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 May 23 21:40 jdk1.4.2 drwxr-xr-x 74 root wheel 74752 May 27 23:08 lib drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 May 21 07:54 libdata drwxr-xr-x 16 root wheel 1536 May 27 06:49 libexec drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 May 23 20:08 linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 drwxr-xr-x 42 root wheel 1024 May 26 04:20 man drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 May 24 03:41 openoffice.org-2.2.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 May 26 08:12 sbin drwxr-xr-x 135 root wheel 2560 May 27 23:08 share drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 May 1 2006 squid drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 May 21 08:58 src drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 21 10:14 translations drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 8 2006 www I am not sure which files are safe to delete, so will try sending this to x11@ as mentioned in the note above. thanks though shaun --=20 Shaun Branden: Alchemist and Bit Bender PGP and contact details in the headers. --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGWZNbyiB/GaqSGUkRAivnAJ41GfvJVaHGjOaG5ngBSFgmLggERQCgyYNl YuX8KXEueV4ItejaqgT9p/U= =bRQ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 14:33:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5316A484 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2C713C480 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4RE1I24096723; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:01:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=permerror; spf=permerror X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk l4RE1I24096723 Message-ID: <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 15:01:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070521) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Paetzel References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 27 May 2007 15:01:30 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3304/Sun May 27 05:35:19 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Shaun Branden , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:33:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Josh Paetzel wrote: > Shaun Branden wrote: >> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to start >> with. > For right now if you want portupgrade to do anything with xorg you > need to export XORG_UPGRADE Creating the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink is necessary, even on a system with xorg 7.2 installed from scratch. The presence of that symlink will stop the xorg-libraries port whinging at you. There are a couple of other bits that need twiddling in the default system, and a very handy way of getting them all to happen is by running mergebase.sh. On a completely virgin newly instaleld system, with /usr/ports populated, but no ports yet installed you may need to: mkdir /usr/X11R6 to give that script something to chew on, and then just: sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWY8u8Mjk52CukIwRCJ4XAJ9gRk7IA2tm7XrE6cIIZvP+2QkolACfWhlB oRdigwLSCQq8TuPZISgOfJw= =OBLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 16:06:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBD316A4C1 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ABB13C455 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m33so617566wag for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yq6UiEMMdVeUjodk+gA+7cTlrBwv/DG0hJlEUFX3w06lXF11wOzHZWe6DNtfACWUrttaxnB7CA9wHQxNgPfW9nR8I/ClI6FbSZ8KOlncXd5cwjWrsBwJ//niQ/iyZlqNkSZE84COlvaFJZQUrTZzSCC7PgOGmDO3HUqpVIlTBdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LtjJp+2YFfvb6ZeLUNRVfznIf1ejc2BIo0/c1aq/TlMLhDDYdPzI34OZEGsRt9XIcrQaEqYkDEuFe8XIS/8KBx5d2dqqDolZojpZQsPIvli0lvVL1L1EJRAcA5dlPPW8jb4inUPEK68of2cS9LTlBAEG7iJw6P3QJEici/m4fPQ= Received: by 10.114.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr2471213wae.1180281998257; Sun, 27 May 2007 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.12 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 18:06:38 +0200 From: "Claus Guttesen" To: "Matthew Seaman" In-Reply-To: <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:06:38 -0000 > >> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to start > >> with. > Creating the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink is necessary, even on a > system with xorg 7.2 installed from scratch. The presence of that > symlink will stop the xorg-libraries port whinging at you. I did a clean (re)install of current and upgraded to gcc 4.2 and then installed xorg 7.1 and kdebase afterwards. I did not encounter any problems running X, I haven't symlinked /usr/X11R6 to /usr/local. I havent's ssh into the machine from outside though but X appears to work locally. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 16:28:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB46C16A46F for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F2313C45A for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from laptop2.montlan (12-216-253-187.client.mchsi.com[12.216.253.187]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20070527161716m9200d8ruoe>; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:17:17 +0000 Message-ID: <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:17:15 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070525 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:28:54 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Josh Paetzel wrote: >> Shaun Branden wrote: > >>> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to start >>> with. > >> For right now if you want portupgrade to do anything with xorg you >> need to export XORG_UPGRADE > > Creating the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink is necessary, even on a > system with xorg 7.2 installed from scratch. The presence of that > symlink will stop the xorg-libraries port whinging at you. > > There are a couple of other bits that need twiddling in the default > system, and a very handy way of getting them all to happen is by > running mergebase.sh. On a completely virgin newly instaleld system, > with /usr/ports populated, but no ports yet installed you may need > to: > > mkdir /usr/X11R6 > > to give that script something to chew on, and then just: > > sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh > > before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. > > Cheers, > > Matthew My experience is that simply having the symlink /usr/X11R6->/usr/local is totally sufficient. However it seems to me that what the port building procedure should now do is the following: * if /usr/X11R6 exists as a directory, it should issue an error message like it does now. * if /usr/X11R6 doesn't yet exist, silently create the symlink. This will mirror how it used to behave, in that if /usr/local or /usr/X11R6 did not exist, they would be created as needed. Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 17:08:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F74616A46E for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 17:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B73C13C480 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 17:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4RH7kJk097996; Sun, 27 May 2007 18:07:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=permerror; spf=permerror X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk l4RH7kJk097996 Message-ID: <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 18:07:46 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070521) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 27 May 2007 18:07:58 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3304/Sun May 27 05:35:19 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 17:08:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Josh Paetzel wrote: >>> Shaun Branden wrote: >>>> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to >>>> start >>>> with. >> sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh >> >> before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. > My experience is that simply having the symlink /usr/X11R6->/usr/local > is totally sufficient. > > However it seems to me that what the port building procedure should now > do is the following: > > * if /usr/X11R6 exists as a directory, it should issue an error message > like it does now. > > * if /usr/X11R6 doesn't yet exist, silently create the symlink. > > This will mirror how it used to behave, in that if /usr/local or > /usr/X11R6 did not exist, they would be created as needed. Oh, agreed to that. However, there are still more changes needed beyond that: Stopping the system running periodic jobs from /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic Stopping the system running startup scripts from /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d Stopping the system searching for manpages from /usr/X11R6/man The last is fairly trivial, but realise that the first two mean that with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local link in place all /usr/local/etc/periodic jobs would get run twice, and even more importantly all /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts would also run twice. Until there are new system releases incorporating the necessary changes in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/defaults/periodic.conf it will be necessary to override some of the default settings. In /etc/rc.conf: local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" In /etc/periodic.conf: local_periodic="/usr/local/etc/periodic" and for completeness sake, comment out the 'X11R6' lines in /etc/manpath.conf Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWbri8Mjk52CukIwRCI9IAJ9ENBHBtRtxaiheAjAOyfo2PBadKACfQhn7 GcCE3wr0BoZEX9a6NgeTEHk= =ZTdB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 19:02:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6C916A4CD for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 19:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6D713C465 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 19:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4RIMavw098463; Sun, 27 May 2007 13:22:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from localhost (stephen@localhost) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l4RIMaHX098458; Sun, 27 May 2007 13:22:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 13:22:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:02:01 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2007, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>> Josh Paetzel wrote: >>>> Shaun Branden wrote: > >>>>> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to >>>>> start >>>>> with. >>> sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh >>> >>> before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. > >> My experience is that simply having the symlink /usr/X11R6->/usr/local >> is totally sufficient. >> >> However it seems to me that what the port building procedure should now >> do is the following: >> >> * if /usr/X11R6 exists as a directory, it should issue an error message >> like it does now. >> >> * if /usr/X11R6 doesn't yet exist, silently create the symlink. >> >> This will mirror how it used to behave, in that if /usr/local or >> /usr/X11R6 did not exist, they would be created as needed. > > Oh, agreed to that. However, there are still more changes needed > beyond that: > > Stopping the system running periodic jobs from /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic > > Stopping the system running startup scripts from /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d > > Stopping the system searching for manpages from /usr/X11R6/man > > The last is fairly trivial, but realise that the first two mean that > with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local link in place all > /usr/local/etc/periodic jobs would get run twice, and even more > importantly all /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts would also run > twice. > > Until there are new system releases incorporating the necessary changes > in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/defaults/periodic.conf it will be > necessary to override some of the default settings. In /etc/rc.conf: > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > > In /etc/periodic.conf: > > local_periodic="/usr/local/etc/periodic" > > and for completeness sake, comment out the 'X11R6' lines in > /etc/manpath.conf I think that the easiest way (i.e. least disruption) is to add to each of the X11R6 scripts a test at their beginning to see if X11R6 is a symlink to /usr/local, and have the scripts do nothing if this is the case. This way people who haven't yet switched to xorg-7.2 will not be disadvantaged in any way. (I don't think simply testing to see if X11R6 is a symlink by itself will be sufficient because I bet that some people already have symlinks like X11R6->X11 or such like.) Also, the last change you propose vis a vis man pages, is that actually necessary - I would have thought that the overhead in searching both local and X11R6 would be fairly negligable. Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 19:34:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3598516A52C for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 19:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE1613C457 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 19:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@dwlabs.ca) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.15]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JIP00FT6T0PAAF0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO dwpc.dwlabs.ca) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:53:54 -0300 Received: from dwpc.dwlabs.ca (ftp.dwlabs.ca [192.168.0.10]) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4RJYJsg001164; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:25 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane@dwpc.dwlabs.ca) Received: (from duane@localhost) by dwpc.dwlabs.ca (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id l4RJYJen001163; Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:19 -0300 (ADT envelope-from duane) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:19 -0300 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <1180267873.19278.26.camel@neo.zion> To: Pascal Hofstee Message-id: <20070527193419.GA903@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAMh5WUYY4MfmdGdsb2JhbACBSo40ATc X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,585,1170648000"; d="scan'208"; a="480321652:sNHT10329162613" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.6/3305/Sun May 27 15:19:57 2007 on dwpc.dwlabs.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on dwpc.dwlabs.ca References: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <1180267873.19278.26.camel@neo.zion> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:34:03 -0000 Hi Pascal, Much thanks! On Sunday, 27 May 2007 at 14:11:13 +0200, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 03:48 -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: > > Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running > > twice? I thought I saw something about this on one > > of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't > > located it yet. > > In assuming "local rc scripts" means anything installed by ports ... i > am assuming you installed a fresh Xorg-7.2 and now at some point ended > up with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink. > > If the above assumption holds true ... did you run the mergebase.sh > script as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING ? > The above assumptions are correct and mergebase.sh did run. > Most significantly .. this script adds the following entry to > your /etc/rc.conf > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > This was the problem. Adding this to my /etc/rc.conf manually fixed everything up for me. Thanks! > > The default entry in /etc/defaults/rc.conf still > references /usr/X1R6/etc/rc.d as well ... since the latter is now a > symlink to the former, both rc.d-paths contain the same scripts. > > If your rc.conf doesn't contain the aforementioned entry, that would > explain why local rc-scripts are started twice. > Yeah, that does it explain it. The mergebase.sh script failed unfortunately and I needed to take manual steps to complete the upgrade process. When the script failed due to conflicting files I deleted the files that were listed, re-ran the script, got the same conflicts, and then created the symlink myself. Unfortunately, the rc.conf entry didn't get added as well. I am left wondering if other things that were supposed to happen did not happen. When operator error complicates matters, as it has in this case, no script can deal with all possible scenarios. So, to all the people who worked on making this upgrade happen, please don't take this as a criticism of the script or upgrade process in general. Duane Whitty > -- > Pascal Hofstee > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 21:01:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928DE16A4A1 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA7A13C44C for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 14so202106nzn for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FOSkrFgx59l/fYDXYr4qi9GT/xt6onzRW6dRkM7PEjM9Ntpb8uoMapEr8RQuj7Cfi+EozrDAmbSwoF7Dsx+Wtoyt85NbPFvnWM4zpovA1Qgw8M0q05/Mkx+CJeKq9H3W637dG30zlHEksC6u8DcGYqvhVhb+9as3LUWvLHwu5vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ncy2QMOmljiD+oJMUkRC7En4KoIe16L5U8TRc5oc/vyRkAm3Bwu5pd3w/sje+3CiX9eWJx4YN4M3EtpG0AJ3PXYHhgKr5yOLQcfXW5kYRYfwbNUbiWL5hNUHBT04sOjHWReu0MEv62diqJXFkpHm0O0Vcg9o/+c93aojyrtEmP4= Received: by 10.114.180.1 with SMTP id c1mr2577004waf.1180299696258; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p4 ( [24.165.34.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n20sm8164347pof.2007.05.27.14.01.34; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:01:32 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20070527110132.0090d79c@p4> In-Reply-To: <20070526234310.GV1992@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20070525150929.GA25582@panix.com> <200705251630.l4PGU0YF091446@lurza.secnetix.de> <20070525094635.3932cddf@p4> <20070525200212.GA31112@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070525104031.36e2a857@p4> <20070525211101.GA73319@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070526234310.GV1992@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Archiving Photos (was OT: In defense of a GUI (was: atapicam, blah, blah)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:37 -0000 On Sun, 27 May 2007 09:43:10 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2007-May-25 23:11:01 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > >CD-R and DVD=B1R might not be the most reliable form of long term > >backup, though. I've seen test reports in magazines indicating > >significant corruption after as little as two years. > ... > >I like USB harddisks for backups, >=20 > Media requirements for archival purposes are different to backup > requirements. I agree that USB HDDs appear a good choice for backups > but I'm less certain about using them for archival purposes. >=20 > HDDs are not designed for long term storage and I would expect that > stiction problems would affect both the heads and bearings if the > disks were left in storage for long periods. >=20 > >1.75 that of a cheap DVD disk. But problems like splitting up large > >directories disappear, as does hunting through stacks of DVDs.=20 >=20 > The downside is that a faulty HDD will affect several orders of > magnitude more data than a faulty DVD. >=20 > >Other people here are more knowledgeable about things like tape > >backup, which still seems to be a popular solution for people with > >large collections of data.=20 >=20 > Techniques for long-term storage of tapes are well known. The > downside is that both tape drives and media are comparatively > expensive. >=20 > In general, whatever media is chosen for archives, the media needs to > be stored in a controlled environment and verified regularly. If the > information needs to be kept for extended periods, it may be necessary > to migrate the data (both physical and file format) to retain access > to the information. >=20 Peter Thank you for your response. I have been thinking about a response since the last post by Roland. I am sure I could not have answered as well as you did. For certain, daily backups are performed on each of the photographers computers to external firewire HDD. In addition to the facts you stated about long term storage on HDD i would like to add cost and space. A decent external 500GB HDD will run near $200 whereas a package of 100 DVDs is about $40 when not on sale. And this is doubled when you want two copies. I have a 18 gallon storage tub for one copy of the DVDs of photographs taken in 2006. The photographer keeps the other copy on hand for quick access. This would probably equate to 7 or 8 external HDD that would have to be stored by each of us.=20 Add to that the speed of pulling up the required photo. When the required photo is double clicked in the Portfolio catalog it requests the particular DVD be inserted in any optical drive. In the case of an external HDD, the correct HDD would have to be located and connected (USB/Firewire) and we would have to hope it would take on the correct drive letter (MSWindows program). We have discussed data decay on all types of media and are thinking about the newer 100 year DVDs. It always come down to cost. How much do we spend so that 4 or 5 years down the road a bride calls because Uncle Elmer and Auntie Virginia want a couple of 5x7s from the wedding. This is good business because is almost pure profit.=20 Years ago it was easy. She just went to her file cabinet and pulled the file and found the negatives. We still had to worry about the environment because negative will also age but now about 95% of her work is digital. The real issue is technology. In the next couple of years who can guess what the "hot" archival storage media will be. We may have a optic drive no larger that a CompactFlash card that will hold 1,000TBs or more.=20 For now we will continue to use DVDs and verify it frequently. Regards Robert From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 27 22:10:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD916A400 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4256013C465 for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1044459mue for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n/Xt9BkkNIbyM6MUJtZL5o3AUIxMK3aLlHsGV5a+Me6FCUL3jWpdaOZ7Nk3+KvGV8JZUfKd0LLN/HvkyySMvASpcJqrCa9iTLqT3wunZ1K8L/rXVkBovcAHLLpwR9JWTslLuVD5tJOiGmT3duNK5g/Io1l3IYnPo0+z/sEuoz7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sWjt8oEUarDum1HJ6cbsP7IG72fUjXFx6NfULEwZXAsPBw0PYWWrhsV4/SreN3nXKI5Ntrd5pnIwwO8J9E0HueY+Ny5J+6St6u7oI179gnbqU3rkN3KrUbqKtVPz7WVgX7nX3iYRMLIVCxkC0Ays8PD7jxeEu4y9hTRVU8mn+LU= Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr9672372bue.1180303809130; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 17:10:09 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Stephen Montgomery-Smith" In-Reply-To: <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:10:11 -0000 On 27/05/07, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > >> Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >>> Josh Paetzel wrote: > >>>> Shaun Branden wrote: > > > >>>>> xorg 7.2 was installed on this system from scratch, ie no ports to > >>>>> start > >>>>> with. > >>> sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh > >>> > >>> before proceeding to install whatever ports you want. > > > >> My experience is that simply having the symlink /usr/X11R6->/usr/local > >> is totally sufficient. > >> > >> However it seems to me that what the port building procedure should now > >> do is the following: > >> > >> * if /usr/X11R6 exists as a directory, it should issue an error message > >> like it does now. > >> > >> * if /usr/X11R6 doesn't yet exist, silently create the symlink. > >> > >> This will mirror how it used to behave, in that if /usr/local or > >> /usr/X11R6 did not exist, they would be created as needed. > > > > Oh, agreed to that. However, there are still more changes needed > > beyond that: > > > > Stopping the system running periodic jobs from /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic > > > > Stopping the system running startup scripts from /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d > > > > Stopping the system searching for manpages from /usr/X11R6/man > > > > The last is fairly trivial, but realise that the first two mean that > > with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local link in place all > > /usr/local/etc/periodic jobs would get run twice, and even more > > importantly all /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts would also run > > twice. > > > > Until there are new system releases incorporating the necessary changes > > in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/defaults/periodic.conf it will be > > necessary to override some of the default settings. In /etc/rc.conf: > > > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" I had never previously noticed that (/usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d) in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. I understand why it is in there but I find it overly solicitous towards that beast. > > > > In /etc/periodic.conf: > > > > local_periodic="/usr/local/etc/periodic" > > > > and for completeness sake, comment out the 'X11R6' lines in > > /etc/manpath.conf > > I think that the easiest way (i.e. least disruption) is to add to each of > the X11R6 scripts a test at their beginning to see if X11R6 is a symlink > to /usr/local, and have the scripts do nothing if this is the case. This > way people who haven't yet switched to xorg-7.2 will not be disadvantaged > in any way. (I don't think simply testing to see if X11R6 is a symlink by > itself will be sufficient because I bet that some people already have > symlinks like X11R6->X11 or such like.) Philosophically, I would have voted for /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d never appearing in /etc/defaults/rc.conf in the first place. Setting the string explicitly in /etc/rc.conf seems just fine by me. Of course, X having its own etc tree (oh, you special little thing, you) was likely a silly idea all along. Of course, given its absurd compexity and size one could easily adopt the opposite argument. -- -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 03:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D623B16A46B; Mon, 28 May 2007 03:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E9F13C469; Mon, 28 May 2007 03:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (isaac.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4S3lXDi066126; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:17:52 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: <465A50D0.8050000@gsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 13:17:28 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Connor" References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705261920.08607.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4658285C.8030909@FreeBSD.org> <200705262246.03512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200705262246.03512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Andrei Kolu , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 03:48:00 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> kib@ has real mode BTX code which appears to work with affected >> systems of mine, however, the code has not yet made it into CVS. I >> spliced it into a 6.2 miniboot ISO and it worked. > > Ooh ahh, please sir, can I have some more^Wit? :) I did some googling.. Is this the patch? http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/realbtx/realbtx.2.patch (Going to try it today anyway :) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 03:56:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7158B16A46D for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 03:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9BD13C45D for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 03:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 14so248518nzn for ; Sun, 27 May 2007 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=prgFUwiMEm+rJTgS+1FHRSpyjRfgADlCaN6zvHoeZ7GSBLihUum1cqRSJMRg5DEOzcOfgS3dMBwaU07U+PnRso+gw2o85W47LNQ64qU3s5495wamML68ffHKVwizVWMZ0/MQ7vgDgrkyS5BZwKisbcfUeICF+rEXeacUlpmfHws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pscyqebvCFmqJsA26x+dfXxBo0aowWYJ6vaj4BiK0MjKWHfzENV/B49SsCeu/rv5G9t7OBirZwbVIah32EIbO7v1Xr+BwMA7B3o+m2q1r5JxWXISJ+ugxtaryYS1scY6/trXozDz6LgVJRrLSrwGnP8xb6PkvqMtATfEevBul5Q= Received: by 10.65.183.7 with SMTP id k7mr9635406qbp.1180324592459; Sun, 27 May 2007 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.193.13 with HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6eb82e0705272056w552a95b8nbb593b1a61e638cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:56:32 +0800 From: "Rong-en Fan" To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <465A50D0.8050000@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705261920.08607.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4658285C.8030909@FreeBSD.org> <200705262246.03512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <465A50D0.8050000@gsoft.com.au> Cc: kib@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 03:56:33 -0000 On 5/28/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > >> kib@ has real mode BTX code which appears to work with affected > >> systems of mine, however, the code has not yet made it into CVS. I > >> spliced it into a 6.2 miniboot ISO and it worked. > > > > Ooh ahh, please sir, can I have some more^Wit? :) > > I did some googling.. Is this the patch? > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/realbtx/realbtx.2.patch > > (Going to try it today anyway :) [I'm CC'ing kib@] Yes, there is also a loader/pxeboot in the same directory. As kib@ told me, do not install this loader on your disk which may destroy your data. Regards, Rong-En Fan > > -- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 04:05:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8DF16A41F for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C4213C480 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 04:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (isaac.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4S45eaB066511; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:35:49 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: <465A550E.7010504@gsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 13:35:34 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rong-en Fan References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705261920.08607.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4658285C.8030909@FreeBSD.org> <200705262246.03512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <465A50D0.8050000@gsoft.com.au> <6eb82e0705272056w552a95b8nbb593b1a61e638cb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6eb82e0705272056w552a95b8nbb593b1a61e638cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: kib@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 04:05:51 -0000 Rong-en Fan wrote: > On 5/28/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> >> kib@ has real mode BTX code which appears to work with affected >> >> systems of mine, however, the code has not yet made it into CVS. I >> >> spliced it into a 6.2 miniboot ISO and it worked. >> > >> > Ooh ahh, please sir, can I have some more^Wit? :) >> >> I did some googling.. Is this the patch? >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/realbtx/realbtx.2.patch >> >> (Going to try it today anyway :) > > [I'm CC'ing kib@] > > Yes, there is also a loader/pxeboot in the same directory. > As kib@ told me, do not install this loader on your disk > which may destroy your data. I see the binaries, I was thinking of trying one with a USB flash boot disk, I'll unplug my actual disks for safety :) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 07:35:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975EC16A400 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 07:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1543013C45A for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 07:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4S7ZTwQ005150; Mon, 28 May 2007 08:35:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=permerror; spf=permerror X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk l4S7ZTwQ005150 Message-ID: <465A8641.7080603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 08:35:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070521) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 28 May 2007 08:35:43 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3311/Mon May 28 01:21:25 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING,DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME,NO_RELAYS,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 07:35:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Also, the last change you propose vis a vis man pages, is that actually > necessary - I would have thought that the overhead in searching both > local and X11R6 would be fairly negligable. Hence my description of it as "trivial". Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWoZA8Mjk52CukIwRCKTxAKCQrZpUXVl7AjdfBhvypccSJ3/SwACaAziQ ChOdO/g+rpwqUDHTluC5Qgw= =0UsD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 08:41:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C4616A41F for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7756713C44B for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIQ0087WTH0M5B0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:41:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.72.184]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIQ0085YTH0SN80@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:41:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:41:29 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20070528104129.125d1768.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.10.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Xorg 7.2 upgrade - success! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 08:41:25 -0000 Hello, Just a quick-ish note to thank everyone involved in making the Xorg upgrade process: thank you all! I just upgraded a ThinkPad T41 (running 6.2-stable / i386 from early april) following the upgrade process in /usr/ports/UPDATING. The only "trick" I had to use was this (which I found on the -x11 mailinglist): mkdir /usr/local/oldX11 mv /usr/X11R6/* /usr/local/oldX11/ before running mergebase.sh After that, I created a new xorg.conf (using X -configure) and added my settings to it (keyboard language). Even xdm works (it still doesn't look good, but it never has)! Again, thanks for all the hard work! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 09:10:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ADA16A47B; Mon, 28 May 2007 09:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ECB13C458; Mon, 28 May 2007 09:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4S9ArQe001520; Mon, 28 May 2007 19:10:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4S9Arhk001519; Mon, 28 May 2007 19:10:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:10:53 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070528091053.GB1168@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200705211823.29943.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <"56016.2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb.1179824650.squirrel"@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> <200705230047.28763.ABabiy@shaw.ca> <200705231107.03356.eti@erata.net> <20070524114030.GB1160@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070524130011.GB46848@mid.pc5.i.0x5.de> <20070524201907.GA32382@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070524201907.GA32382@xor.obsecurity.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Corrupt fonts-alias (Re: xorg 7.2 start problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:10:55 -0000 --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-May-24 16:19:07 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:00:11PM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: >> * Peter Jeremy [2007-05-24 21:40 +1000]: >> > I've found this problem on one system (the one where I thought the >> > upgrade had gone the most cleanly). font-alias _is_ installed but >> > most of my pcf.gz files are corrupt (20 bytes long). >> >=20 >> > 'portupgrade -f' on my fonts is fixing this but I'm not exactly sure >> > why it occurred to start with. >>=20 >> bdftopcf fails if it uses the old library from X11R6. The 20 bytes are >> the compressed empty output of the failing bdftopcf. >>=20 >> Nicolas > >Sounds like it is being upgraded out of order, we need a full log to >figure out why. Looking closer, I was wrong about it being a clean upgrade in my case. The ports INDEX and INDEX.db (though not the ports tree) would have been "corrupted" (by my regular ports tree update) partway through the portupgrade. I suspect it can be put down to operator error but can provide my upgrade logs if you want to investigate. --=20 Peter Jeremy --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGWpyd/opHv/APuIcRAlGVAKCTYOTGX4ZT3nHjmQSCzhJZEndUSgCeN1no pj8zl6ozTJq7SoJYDR11XcE= =7i2I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 09:29:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A8116A47D for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 09:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDB713C45A for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 09:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so843131uge for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 02:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; b=hBzyMAEXKt4fFelgC4pgtl/Rhml/YeKrDLSV6EQkjI/53iFRHQQ9MGibHthxV3boJLyt1WeM/VmEa9I+q8eXE2j1J+d5NcA4iZsa6VcK3vwqtNiLx0HQ1oOew3l5biwpHnuHOZ8AASNLN8TE9Oj3jWkoQr1AYfJXxhiFyZuEfB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; b=CzW0zEj0Fq06qiuS0QnNLFLz/dzf3DnYnOwuIIYlggCFgSNoQ2++zDOPYdQprfswm/v1+BWNcpCkhF8uBg6Fm6I4CbOKK9ksZO2XV3i2DERJCtgx/06pZi+HDMWD4zOVYaNEsz2uElbE/yYqnEW5kI8RXvpOrZVx1zyUzsO4Nho= Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr1584370huf.1180344550609; Mon, 28 May 2007 02:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [85.180.187.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 31sm44516nfu.2007.05.28.02.29.08; Mon, 28 May 2007 02:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4S9T5Kg002367 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 11:29:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4S9T5qY002366 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 11:29:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:29:05 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070528092905.GB1551@roadrunner.q.local> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Change in memory tracking in recent 6-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:29:13 -0000 Hi there, I'm using symon to monitor memory usage among several FreeBSD machines. After updating to a recent 6-STABLE, the amount of memory no longer adds up to the total physical memory. The "inactive" counter is way too small. Which recent changes could have caused this? Is it a bug in symon or in FreeBSD? An example of the difference can be found here: http://coyote.dnsalias.net/memory.png Ulrich Spoerlein -- "The trouble with the dictionary is you have to know how the word is spelled before you can look it up to see how it is spelled." -- Will Cuppy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 10:07:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D2216A4E9 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E3913C457 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4SA7quw001845 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:07:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4SA7qtm001844 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:07:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:07:52 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070528100752.GA1750@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20070528092905.GB1551@roadrunner.q.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070528092905.GB1551@roadrunner.q.local> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: Change in memory tracking in recent 6-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:07:54 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-May-28 11:29:05 +0200, Ulrich Spoerlein wrot= e: >I'm using symon to monitor memory usage among several FreeBSD machines. >After updating to a recent 6-STABLE, the amount of memory no longer adds >up to the total physical memory. The "inactive" counter is way too >small. As well as "active", "inactive" and "free", there is "cache", "wired" and "buffers". Check the following sysctls: vfs.bufspace (bytes) vm.stats.vm.v_active_count (pages) vm.stats.vm.v_inactive_count (pages) vm.stats.vm.v_wire_count (pages) vm.stats.vm.v_cache_count (pages) vm.stats.vm.v_free_count (pages) --=20 Peter Jeremy --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGWqn4/opHv/APuIcRAgZcAJ9+C4X7n9goeAdWYItmS5kJ77zhQQCdEW7c DRw2IeILuDTetmQeQ6pIKcI= =Y8CA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 10:29:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6916A473; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C6613C484; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F7C1C8627; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:29:34 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Robert Watson Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 13:26:15 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200705221006.49359.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <465A90C8.8020600@elischer.org> <20070528095156.L2234@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20070528095156.L2234@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705281326.17517.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: debuging a hung kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:29:36 -0000 Redirecting from @net to @stable. Please, remove @net from future mails. On Monday 28 May 2007 11:54, Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2007, Julian Elischer wrote: > > Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >> On Monday 28 May 2007 10:57, Julian Elischer wrote: > >>> Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >>>> On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:06, I wrote: > >>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>> > >>>>> I just managed to lock my box and I want to report it > >>> > >>> define "lock"? > >>> > >>> Does it still respond to on the keyboard? > >> > >> No, but I was trying to break to the debugger with > >> myself. I assume that it is > >> equivalent to the combination you wrote, or not? > >> > >>> (Assuming you have the debugger in your kernel?). > >> > >> Yes, I have included my kernel configuration, see bellow. > >> > >>> Does it still ping? > >> > >> no, ARP does not work as well. > > > > nasty.. do you have IPMI? sometimes that allows you to generate an NMI > > that could theoretically be made to drop to the debugger. I have a Dell PowerEdge 750 sitting at work, which I think has IPMI. I'll be able to try a few things next week, since I will be off work for this week. > > > > I've not had success with that but I have heard others have. > > An increase number of server motherboards have an NMI button on the > motherboard, possibly exposed outside the case, but generally not. > > I've not tested it in over a year, but a few years ago I added an > MP_WATCHDOG kernel option that causes one of the CPUs in an SMP system > to become a dedicated watchdog CPU, checking to see if the OS is alive > enough to process timer tickets. If a counter isn't updated, it > generates an NMI to the debugger from the watchdog CPU. The idea here > is that, as the number of CPUs increases, the cost of dedicating a CPU > for debugging stuff gets lower. However, there have been quite a few > scheduler changes in the last few years, and it's possible that the > watchdog no longer properly excludes other work from being scheduled, > and that further work is required. In particular, I believe it relies > on 4BSD's "pull" scheduling model and a lack of per-CPU workers, so the > mechanism may require some rethinking. Unfortunately, I have not an SMP system available. Is there a mechanism which I can use to schedule a break to the debugger after n seconds or events? I am looking if ichwd(4) can help, though that needs investigation since I have not used watchdog facilities before. Thanks Julian & Robert. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 18:03:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D6B16A468 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS1=e0c55a7cbd5b53012065060fbbd723718bc2c413=es.net==e0c55a7cbd5b53012065060fbbd723718bc2c413=349=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA013C458 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS1=e0c55a7cbd5b53012065060fbbd723718bc2c413=es.net==e0c55a7cbd5b53012065060fbbd723718bc2c413=349=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id HWY93008 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:48:08 -0700 Received: from postal1.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id HWY31807 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:48:07 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id HWY87605; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:48:05 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D9EE445054; Mon, 28 May 2007 10:48:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Duane Whitty In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:19 -0300." <20070527193419.GA903@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1180374485_51945P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:48:05 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20070528174805.D9EE445054@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Pascal Hofstee Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:03:47 -0000 --==_Exmh_1180374485_51945P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 16:34:19 -0300 > From: Duane Whitty > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Hi Pascal, > > Much thanks! > > On Sunday, 27 May 2007 at 14:11:13 +0200, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 03:48 -0300, Duane Whitty wrote: > > > Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running > > > twice? I thought I saw something about this on one > > > of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't > > > located it yet. > > > > In assuming "local rc scripts" means anything installed by ports ... i > > am assuming you installed a fresh Xorg-7.2 and now at some point ended > > up with the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr/local symlink. > > > > If the above assumption holds true ... did you run the mergebase.sh > > script as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING ? > > > > The above assumptions are correct and mergebase.sh did run. > > > Most significantly .. this script adds the following entry to > > your /etc/rc.conf > > > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > > > > This was the problem. Adding this to my /etc/rc.conf manually > fixed everything up for me. Thanks! > > > > > The default entry in /etc/defaults/rc.conf still > > references /usr/X1R6/etc/rc.d as well ... since the latter is now a > > symlink to the former, both rc.d-paths contain the same scripts. > > > > If your rc.conf doesn't contain the aforementioned entry, that would > > explain why local rc-scripts are started twice. > > > > Yeah, that does it explain it. The mergebase.sh script failed > unfortunately and I needed to take manual steps to complete > the upgrade process. > > When the script failed due to conflicting files I deleted the > files that were listed, re-ran the script, got the same conflicts, > and then created the symlink myself. Unfortunately, the rc.conf > entry didn't get added as well. I am left wondering if other > things that were supposed to happen did not happen. > > When operator error complicates matters, as it has in this case, > no script can deal with all possible scenarios. So, to all the > people who worked on making this upgrade happen, please don't > take this as a criticism of the script or upgrade process If ./etc is mounted read-only, the file is not updated and I got no warning about the failure from the script. As a result I need to hand-edit both rc.conf and periodic to fix stuff properly. I don't suspect having a RO /etc is all that common, but I am sure others will hit this, too. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1180374485_51945P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFGWxXVkn3rs5h7N1ERApFWAKCYNONrBrQTcDbzfS0BIDrNqJzmewCdFKcj jcbITSFhmgEFjgIujT73L5k= =Nxtm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1180374485_51945P-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 20:36:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7FB16A421 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8545313C457 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so978382uge for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Z5f+zhGi2Ek5RNgmts+TLedrJ6EUDmWSsplX1CB/XZJ8TM02CZN1kkU8ZJ65o6o6i8HGGY7w25dG8kbOHTKcKfWXsiutg5pbBG32gEWaJ4pc09H+w3B+IvtIBtfDltkUqiZWK3DEj1qvP+YlQHHcy49IgJS8qkUHzIQI41mLQrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ud1hO9EkdE53DpgYmJfd1vrKkzx8GYNLY45PMt87ls3zIp1c1RVafamcMgJRCnMKOYZ1uS/0aD//OcNMoHxipVh7F5AtVk35qJe0ojqFh3nBaKFIJ1XyYu3qsfc5fHnznAfAFiBJ0OQLgg5ZRVIySEjMGQtQLiMQTTuKgAkmCcc= Received: by 10.82.156.12 with SMTP id d12mr11442209bue.1180384556703; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.170.13 with HTTP; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:35:56 +0100 From: "Chris Rees" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no Subject: Re: Xorg 7.2 upgrade - success! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:36:00 -0000 > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote (28/5/07): > > After that, I created a new xorg.conf (using X -configure) and added my > settings to it (keyboard language). > Even xdm works (it still doesn't look good, but it never has)! > Try out my Xresources, Xsetup_0, and Xstartup_0 if you don't like xdm as it is... If you have x11/xscreensaver installed it'll look great! [chris@hydra ~]% cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources ! $Xorg: Xresources,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:17 cpqbld Exp $ ! ! ! ! ! $XFree86: xc/programs/xdm/config/Xres.cpp,v 1.6 2003/01/04 03:11:31 dawes Exp $ ! xlogin*allowRootLogin: false xlogin*login.translations: #override \ CtrlR: abort-display()\n\ F1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ F2: set-session-argument(twm) finish-field()\n\ F3: set-session-argument(fluxbox) finish-field()\n\ F12: set-session-argument(shutdown) finish-field()\n\ Delete: delete-character()\n\ Left: move-backward-character()\n\ Right: move-forward-character()\n\ Home: move-to-begining()\n\ End: move-to-end()\n\ CtrlKP_Enter: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ KP_Enter: set-session-argument() finish-field()\n\ CtrlReturn: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ Return: set-session-argument() finish-field() *allowRootLogin: false xlogin*geometry: 310x200+0-0 xlogin*greeting: Welcome to Hydra xlogin*namePrompt: Login: xlogin*fail: Login incorrect xlogin*greetFont: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-p-98-iso8859-1 xlogin*font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-p-98-iso8859-1 xlogin*promptFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--18-180-75-75-p-103-iso8859-1 xlogin*failFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--18-180-75-75-p-103-iso8859-1 xlogin*greetFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--17-120-100-100-p-92-iso8859-1 xlogin*font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1 xlogin*promptFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-70-iso8859-1 xlogin*failFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--14-140-75-75-p-82-iso8859-1 xlogin*borderWidth: 1 xlogin*frameWidth: 1 xlogin*innerFramesWidth: 1 xlogin*shdColor: green xlogin*hiColor: green xlogin*background: black xlogin*foreground: green xlogin*greetColor: green xlogin*failColor: red *Foreground: green *Background: #fffff0 xlogin*useShape: true xlogin*logoPadding: 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! EOF !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [chris@hydra ~]% cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0 killall xmatrix [chris@hydra ~]% cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 #!/bin/sh # $Xorg: Xsetup_0,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:17 cpqbld Exp $ #xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed -exitOnFail /usr/local/bin/xscreensaver-hacks/xmatrix -root & #/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/chooser [chris@hydra ~]% Sorry, I know I'm sad... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 20:52:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9F16A421 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9DE13C468 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 20:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on core6.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from r2d2 ([212.135.219.182]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.5.4) with ESMTP id md50003864259.msg for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 21:49:58 +0100 Message-ID: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:49:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Mon, 28 May 2007 21:49:59 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Mon, 28 May 2007 21:49:59 +0100 Subject: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:52:49 -0000 When compressing files with specific filenames it appears that BSD tar is creating invalid archives which when handed to gnutar to expand it errors with the following: [log] tar -xvzf test.tar.gz tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [/log] This archive contains just a single file with no special attributes yet BSD seems to be doing something strange due to the filename only. The following is the out of the filename using ls and find: user@m1:music> ls -l cantiquede* -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 1766066 Feb 8 20:54 cantiquedeno?l1_loop.wav user@m1:music> find . -name can\* ./cantiquedenoël1_loop.wav I've tested creating the tar with gtar and all is well when expanded so I can only conclude at this point that BSD is broken in some way by this strange filename. tar --version bsdtar 1.01.020, libarchive 1.02.006 Copyright (C) 2003-2004 Tim Kientzle Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 22:40:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99F16A4EF for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 22:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A993E13C457 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 22:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIR003EOTJ24A50@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 15:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JIR001K7TJ2EED0@pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 15:40:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIR006KDTJ1KIS0@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 15:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16061 invoked from network); Mon, 28 May 2007 21:39:56 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Mon, 28 May 2007 21:39:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:39:55 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> To: Steven Hartland Message-id: <465B4C2B.6060104@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:40:27 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote: > When compressing files with specific filenames it appears that BSD > tar is creating invalid archives which when handed to gnutar to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > expand it errors with the following: > [log] > tar -xvzf test.tar.gz > tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' > tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' > tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' > cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors > [/log] This looks like fairly typical symptoms of gnutar being broken. What makes you think that the archive created by BSD tar was invalid? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 00:27:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29AB16A484; Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AA713C4C1; Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on core6.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from r2d2 ([212.135.219.182]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.5.4) with ESMTP id md50003864618.msg; Tue, 29 May 2007 01:24:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c7a187$bc8f8e10$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Colin Percival" References: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <465B4C2B.6060104@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 01:24:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 29 May 2007 01:24:57 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 29 May 2007 01:24:57 +0100 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 00:27:52 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Percival" >> expand it errors with the following: >> [log] >> tar -xvzf test.tar.gz >> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' >> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' >> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' >> cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav >> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors >> [/log] > > This looks like fairly typical symptoms of gnutar being broken. What > makes you think that the archive created by BSD tar was invalid? As a filename should have no bearing on what extended headers are set. 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From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 02:31:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3B116A532; Tue, 29 May 2007 02:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEA413C44C; Tue, 29 May 2007 02:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4T2Utw2013989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2007 12:00:56 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Rong-en Fan Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:00:49 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <6eb82e0705272056w552a95b8nbb593b1a61e638cb@mail.gmail.com> <465A550E.7010504@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <465A550E.7010504@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1330950.Zd6raLYflh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705291200.51590.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: kib@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 02:31:00 -0000 --nextPart1330950.Zd6raLYflh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 28 May 2007 13:35, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Yes, there is also a loader/pxeboot in the same directory. > > As kib@ told me, do not install this loader on your disk > > which may destroy your data. > > I see the binaries, I was thinking of trying one with a USB flash > boot disk, I'll unplug my actual disks for safety :) Alas I still get a BTX halted after replacing loader with one from that=20 URL :( int=3D0000000d err=3D00000000 efl=3D00030002 eip=3D00002aca eax=3D00000900 ebx=3D000055aa ecx=3D00000000 edx=3D00000180 esi=3D00000000 edi=3D00000000 ebp=3D000003f0 esp=3D000003da cs=3Df000 ds=3D9e02 es=3D1400 fs=3D0000 gs=3D0000 ss=3D9e02 cs:eip=3D2e 0f 01 16 1c 2c 0f 20-c0 0c 01 0f 22 c0 b8 28 00 8e d8 0f 20 c0 24 fe-0f 22 c0 eb 00 66 58 c3 ss:esp=3D02 9e 00 00 20 22 01 41-02 9e 24 72 0f 08 00 00 46 02 80 01 3a 07 10 00-01 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 BTX halted (ds might be 9e82, not sure, shot is blury..) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1330950.Zd6raLYflh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGW5Bb5ZPcIHs/zowRAhtlAJ95A7VUvo+auGVe8U2E8opbzIIojACeLUsw t5eTPTOCH6jhnEqTtoLMt4w= =8xDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1330950.Zd6raLYflh-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 03:19:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0A316A421 for ; 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Mon, 28 May 2007 21:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16875 invoked from network); Tue, 29 May 2007 03:18:59 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 03:18:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:18:59 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <003701c7a187$bc8f8e10$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> To: Steven Hartland Message-id: <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <465B4C2B.6060104@freebsd.org> <003701c7a187$bc8f8e10$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 03:19:23 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Percival" >>> tar -xvzf test.tar.gz >>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' >>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' >>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' >>> cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav >>> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors >> >> This looks like fairly typical symptoms of gnutar being broken. What >> makes you think that the archive created by BSD tar was invalid? > > As a filename should have no bearing on what extended headers > are set. Why not? In this case, bsdtar is detecting that the file name contains non-7-bit-ascii characters and is emitting a pax header for that reason; and since it can't suppress the pax header entirely, it goes ahead and emits the "not vital but potentially useful" headers for the device #, inode #, number of links, and high precision timestamps. I still see no evidence that bsdtar is doing anything wrong. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 06:45:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F126F16A478 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 06:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F8EA13C447 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 06:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 11179 invoked by uid 399); 29 May 2007 06:45:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2007 06:45:36 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <465BCC0E.4030403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:45:34 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070525) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <20070527125334.GA81644@pcuse.com> <20070527132131.GW47537@tcbug.org> <46598F2E.50004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4659AF0B.3030307@math.missouri.edu> <4659BAE2.6040107@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070527131707.F97044@math.missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Shaun Branden Subject: Re: updating xorg-libraries 7.2 to 7.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:45:37 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > I think that the easiest way (i.e. least disruption) is to add to each > of the X11R6 scripts a test at their beginning to see if X11R6 is a > symlink to /usr/local, and have the scripts do nothing if this is the > case. Umm, no. The easiest way to fix this is in rc.subr, to prevent it from running scripts with the same name more than once. A fix for that problem is currently under discussion. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:08:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA91216A475 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from frontmail.ipactive.de (frontmail.maindns.de [85.214.95.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924313C469 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (Q7d87.q.ppp-pool.de [89.53.125.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by frontmail.ipactive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF5812881E for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:46:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cesar.sz.vwsoft.com (cesar.sz.vwsoft.com [192.168.16.3]) by mail.vtec.ipme.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764983F4E8 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:45:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:45:15 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VWSoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com X-ipactive-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ipactive-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ipactive-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com Cc: Subject: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:08:57 -0000 Hi! Reading some of the latest blog entries today, I've seen there has been some (newbie) user frustration with the latest X.org upgrade (mostly by not reading docs or not understanding the ports system at all). flz@ and des@ had a lot of trouble with some guys. Currently, if a new user is trying out FreeBSD, he will most likely set up a 6.2-RELEASE system and end up in the X.org upgrade war. As a new user is most likely not prepared to manage the system at all, he will most likely probe FreeBSD being unmaintainable (as he will most likely not know how to deal with ports at all). While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org upgrade being a major upgrade which would justify a release cycle (@ flz: you did a great job). That would keep the trouble from new users and also from some mailing lists. I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. Just my 2ct. Volker From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:18:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAF316A46D for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD80613C4DB for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so567066anc for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 03:18:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KQ8nBsoI7whuLT5VI/cSXFAHbXKUfRGQ124j+OuVWBfxnK2x/IWVXhpICMDH1tMSc4SYCXdfr9piUuWy8zQriJgZbdToKFo5xK5+m7/1AX98maqEWnTldMbP5/bd4FuJ+0v3fNe0hFfXmSejqhva2vaRmLgcfJpmWpxfEkzUrXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D55JMiPgklybjARUj8xDATsYANL6QVKInOLa/9wTQcdvexRSapV3hvZ6XYVyhE9PuD8Qemm09prG9nYvxGe/ckT3V/ZWKZICqFjjwIJnhGbbOrIYPg5fHrlRqpRgaYXYhSj35vXVPi2Hy+dKX5ECxqiYdEOiiqsF5IaCxo/ajwk= Received: by 10.100.211.11 with SMTP id j11mr5068881ang.1180433932001; Tue, 29 May 2007 03:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 03:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705290318t3e147705hc3ebbf91fa439966@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:18:51 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: Volker In-Reply-To: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:18:53 -0000 On 5/29/07, Volker wrote: > Hi! > While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a > bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like > 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org > upgrade being a major upgrade which would justify a release cycle (@ > flz: you did a great job). That would keep the trouble from new users > and also from some mailing lists. > > I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but > IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. > > What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. > > Just my 2ct. > > Volker Voker, I think with ports freeze still the case, they can't release a new version before sorting all Xorg 7.2 issues IMHO. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:45:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6153316A531 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580513C4BF for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:65365 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HsyxH-00019o-8N for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:29:32 +0200 Received: (qmail 30257 invoked from network); 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 49357 invoked by uid 1001); 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Volker Message-ID: <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Volker , stable@freebsd.org References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.10.135 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HsyxH-00019o-8N. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1HsyxH-00019o-8N a8f90cb52dd34406a9e69c1a5be0b706 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:45:00 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: > Hi! > > Reading some of the latest blog entries today, I've seen there has > been some (newbie) user frustration with the latest X.org upgrade > (mostly by not reading docs or not understanding the ports system at > all). flz@ and des@ had a lot of trouble with some guys. > > Currently, if a new user is trying out FreeBSD, he will most likely > set up a 6.2-RELEASE system and end up in the X.org upgrade war. As a > new user is most likely not prepared to manage the system at all, he > will most likely probe FreeBSD being unmaintainable (as he will most > likely not know how to deal with ports at all). A new user setting up a 6.2-RELEASE system will most likely use the packages and/or the ports tree that shipped with 6.2-RELEASE. The X.org upgrade will only be a concern to such a user *if* he upgrades his ports tree. Most new users will likely not know how to do that. > > While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a > bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like > 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org > upgrade being a major upgrade which would justify a release cycle (@ > flz: you did a great job). That would keep the trouble from new users > and also from some mailing lists. > > I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but > IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. > > What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad idea. There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE branch that a full release cycle seems warranted. I also think that it would be a bad idea to create *any* new release until after the X.org upgrade has settled down - it has not done that quite yet as far as I can tell. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:49:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934FD16A55A; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87F113C465; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on core6.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from r2d2 ([212.135.219.182]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.5.4) with ESMTP id md50003865618.msg; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:47:21 +0100 Message-ID: <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Colin Percival" References: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk><465B4C2B.6060104@freebsd.org><003701c7a187$bc8f8e10$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:46:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 29 May 2007 11:47:22 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 29 May 2007 11:47:22 +0100 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:49:02 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Percival" >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Percival" >>>> tar -xvzf test.tar.gz >>>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' >>>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' >>>> tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' >>>> cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav >>>> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors >>> >>> This looks like fairly typical symptoms of gnutar being broken. What >>> makes you think that the archive created by BSD tar was invalid? >> >> As a filename should have no bearing on what extended headers >> are set. > > Why not? In this case, bsdtar is detecting that the file name contains > non-7-bit-ascii characters and is emitting a pax header for that reason; > and since it can't suppress the pax header entirely, it goes ahead and > emits the "not vital but potentially useful" headers for the device #, > inode #, number of links, and high precision timestamps. > > I still see no evidence that bsdtar is doing anything wrong. I suppose this then comes down to the fact that gnu tar is the prevalent version out there and as such with BSD creating archives which are incompatible with that leads to problems. From our side we'll have to switch to using gnutar until this issue is resolved as we need to ensure compatibility. Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:52:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479FB16A469; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE93C13C44C; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp80-24.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.80.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4TAqBJ0029172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2007 20:22:13 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Rong-en Fan Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 20:21:44 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <465A550E.7010504@gsoft.com.au> <200705291200.51590.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200705291200.51590.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart10636142.f07JgUIQn2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705292022.05928.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: kib@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:52:16 -0000 --nextPart10636142.f07JgUIQn2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > Alas I still get a BTX halted after replacing loader with one from > that URL :( > int=3D0000000d err=3D00000000 efl=3D00030002 eip=3D00002aca > eax=3D00000900 ebx=3D000055aa ecx=3D00000000 edx=3D00000180 > esi=3D00000000 edi=3D00000000 ebp=3D000003f0 esp=3D000003da > cs=3Df000 ds=3D9e02 es=3D1400 fs=3D0000 gs=3D0000 ss=3D9e02 > cs:eip=3D2e 0f 01 16 1c 2c 0f 20-c0 0c 01 0f 22 c0 b8 28 > 00 8e d8 0f 20 c0 24 fe-0f 22 c0 eb 00 66 58 c3 > ss:esp=3D02 9e 00 00 20 22 01 41-02 9e 24 72 0f 08 00 00 > 46 02 80 01 3a 07 10 00-01 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 > BTX halted > > (ds might be 9e82, not sure, shot is blury..) That was a Supermicro P8SCT, this is a Gigabyte GA-965P-PS3.. int=3D0000000d err=3D00000000 efl=3D00030002 eip=3D000042b7 eax=3D00000900 ebx=3D000055aa ecx=3D00000000 edx=3D00000180 esi=3D00000000 edi=3D00000000 ebp=3D000003f0 esp=3D000003d8 cs=3Df000 ds=3D9e02 es=3D1400 fs=3D0000 gs=3D0000 ss=3D9e02 cs:eip=3D2e 0f 01 16 d8 44 0f 20-c0 0c 01 0f 22 c0 b8 20 00 8e d8 0f 20 c0 24 fe-0f 22 c0 eb 00 66 58 c3 ss:esp=3D02 9e 00 00 77 3a 01 41-00 14 02 9e 06 9e 0f 08 BTX halted The second one is more accurate as I didn't copy it from a blurry=20 photo :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart10636142.f07JgUIQn2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGXAXV5ZPcIHs/zowRAvuIAJ9fBNAfGVc4qqwk1swDoSJIdp9qqQCcDg8Q oE1w88tPYabSGTfkrPDGPGI= =HV8v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart10636142.f07JgUIQn2-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 11:12:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69B116A553 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7A813C45E for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D906AEB596B; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:56:34 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MSewHZcrSsjF; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:56:30 +0800 (CST) Received: from LI-Xins-MacBook.local (unknown [221.222.205.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAACEB132B; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:56:30 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=VBEfOxmvUA5BSS+0Dv8BC8G9L2coeK2g/+H5eYSiZHNtX4vL06eRhcSAlL82RsyOi ifSZ4E4cbgyo4IxTkeaxQ== Message-ID: <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:56:14 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volker , stable@freebsd.org References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0ECF52FC5CC768EFC2C5ED16" Cc: Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0ECF52FC5CC768EFC2C5ED16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Erik, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: [...] >> >> I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but >> IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. >> >> What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. >=20 > A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad idea= =2E > There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE bran= ch > that a full release cycle seems warranted. I would say that just tagging -STABLE tree as "RELEASE" is a very bad idea, however, it would not be too bad if we take RELENG_6_2 as a codebase and add the following bugfixes: - zonelim fixes (very helpful for heavy loaded systems). - some socket locking fixes (settled for a long time). - driver updates, like RAID driver bugfixes. Therefore, from src/'s view, I think it would not be too bad to make a point release that merges some (well tested) bugfixes in, or at least, provide a patchset as an errata for 6.2-R. > I also think that it would be a bad idea to create *any* new release un= til > after the X.org upgrade has settled down - it has not done that quite y= et > as far as I can tell. I agree. What's more, freezing the ports/ tree often does not sound quite appealing :-) Just my $0.02. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enig0ECF52FC5CC768EFC2C5ED16 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXAbOOfuToMruuMARChA0AJ0eBv3pUsHySWZva9Q6dn35hbTp3QCfVONv J6TU3c+JlMgC+h8HHElz/y8= =7AZu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0ECF52FC5CC768EFC2C5ED16-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 11:18:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA22F16A41F for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557E513C48C for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 11:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4TBHwj7097940; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:17:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4TBHwg9097939; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:17:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:17:57 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Volker , stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:18:00 -0000 --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-May-29 12:29:29 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: >A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad idea. >There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE branch >that a full release cycle seems warranted. Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also impact this. >I also think that it would be a bad idea to create *any* new release until >after the X.org upgrade has settled down - it has not done that quite yet >as far as I can tell. Given the size of the upgrade, I think it has gone very smoothly, though there _are_ a few rough edges. A few weeks to a month should shake things out. --=20 Peter Jeremy --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGXAvl/opHv/APuIcRAvT0AKCLeOxIAc3oMt4VAAVCVKA9ss0w/QCgocLL cygVGN1yj629kjpkkIeTGV8= =BCwg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 14:51:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB0116A421 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E513C4BA for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7842F4716B; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:51:41 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Stephen Clark In-Reply-To: <4656D0FB.5070200@seclark.us> Message-ID: <20070529154919.U2510@fledge.watson.org> References: <4656D0FB.5070200@seclark.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: network performance 6.1 stable vs 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:51:44 -0000 On Fri, 25 May 2007, Stephen Clark wrote: > We have a network appliance that is currently based on 4.9. We are in the > process of releasing a new version based on 6.1 stable. > > In our testing using nttcp thru the appliance we see insignifant difference > in thruput between the 2 versions in a controlled environment - aproximately > 94mbs on a 100mb lan. > > We have a person that is testing the both system inhouse surfing out over > the internet on our T1 link and he complains that he is consistently seeing > the 6.1 version being much slower than the 4.9 version (on the same > hardware). He has been comparing the 6.1 system to 4.9 system for a couple > of weeks and continues to insist the 6.1 version is much slower. > > Are there any sysctl tunables that may affect performance going over the > internet with a slower link, dropped packets, etc that could cause this? > > Any ideas would be appreciated. Steve, The first thing I'd do is try a double-blind test for your testers -- don't tell them which version is running, and then compare performance complaints with/without. This would let you know if there's actually a difference. The main piece of advice I give people when working with 6.x is to consider turning on net.isr.direct, which enables direct dispatch in the network stack. With 4.x, I get lower forwarding and processing latency than 6.x unless I enable this. However, my recollection is that you don't want to turn it on on releases before 6.1, and I would really be most comfortable turning it on with 6.2 and later. In FreeBSD 7.0, net.isr.direct is the default. You might give that a try and see if it has an effect, but I'd see about getting some sort of objective testing of performance going to confirm that this isn't a subjectivity issue. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge > > Steve > > -- > > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve > neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) > > "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." > (Thomas Jefferson) > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 15:26:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C78216A46D for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A1113C43E for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from bmah.local (hornet.kitchenlab.org [64.142.31.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l4TFQZSm029305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2007 08:26:35 -0700 Message-ID: <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:26:28 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LI Xin References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDEF999043FFC77325E15EB77" Cc: Volker , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:26:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDEF999043FFC77325E15EB77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, LI Xin wrote: > Hi, Erik, >=20 > Erik Trulsson wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: > [...] >>> I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but >>> IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. >>> >>> What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. >> A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad ide= a. >> There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE bra= nch >> that a full release cycle seems warranted. >=20 > I would say that just tagging -STABLE tree as "RELEASE" is a very bad > idea, however, it would not be too bad if we take RELENG_6_2 as a > codebase and add the following bugfixes: >=20 > - zonelim fixes (very helpful for heavy loaded systems). > - some socket locking fixes (settled for a long time). > - driver updates, like RAID driver bugfixes. >=20 > Therefore, from src/'s view, I think it would not be too bad to make a > point release that merges some (well tested) bugfixes in, or at least, > provide a patchset as an errata for 6.2-R. We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did this. There's a reason for this...it's a lot of effort. Folks should realize that making a new release (even a new point release) is not just a matter of tagging the tree and typing "make release". We (re@) need to figure out exactly what bugs are to be fixed, get the changes merged and tested, build at least one release candidate, get that tested, and finally build a set of RELEASE bits and push them out. And that's just the src/ part. The original poster was mostly concerned about the X.org upgrade, which as we all know lives in the ports/ tree. If we were to do a "point release" we'd basically require a complete port freeze and package build run. I believe that we did do that for both 4.6.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE. As someone's pointed out, the ports committers are still fixing up some of the rough edges around the X.org update, so that part of the tree isn't even ready to go yet. The way I see it (and this is just my personal opinion, not an official statement from re@), doing a point release now would be a distraction from our next scheduled release, which is 7.0. Bruce. PS. This having been said I know there are some kernel fixes that were candidates for errata against 6.2-RELEASE...I'm not sure what their current state is. I'd like to see some of these get applied to RELENG_6_= 2. --------------enigDEF999043FFC77325E15EB77 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXEYk2MoxcVugUsMRAj1JAJ9BA4wzPUkpPXCEmmAkiZkQ9M641gCfTAff CfryK9lNHYNO/jYltq0Z6yE= =RioI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDEF999043FFC77325E15EB77-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 16:48:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467CA16A400 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2404313C45A for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIT00L1F7M2TQ10@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JIT000OF7M0WV51@pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIT00IMX7LZPF10@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19505 invoked from network); Tue, 29 May 2007 15:41:42 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:41:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:41:41 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-id: <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:38 -0000 Bruce A. Mah wrote: > We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were > severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the > announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and > 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did > this. There's a reason for this...it's a lot of effort. > > Folks should realize that making a new release (even a new point > release) is not just a matter of tagging the tree and typing "make > release". We (re@) need to figure out exactly what bugs are to be > fixed, get the changes merged and tested, build at least one release > candidate, get that tested, and finally build a set of RELEASE bits and > push them out. I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past when X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we have errata noticed and FreeBSD Update is in the base system, it's vastly easier for users to run "freebsd-update fetch install" than it is for them to upgrade to a new release. > PS. This having been said I know there are some kernel fixes that were > candidates for errata against 6.2-RELEASE...I'm not sure what their > current state is. Don't ask me, I just approve the errata which you send to me. Which hasn't been anything at all lately. :-) Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 17:01:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285F816A400; Tue, 29 May 2007 17:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB04C13C46C; Tue, 29 May 2007 17:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from bmah.local (hornet.kitchenlab.org [64.142.31.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l4TH0xAG007307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 29 May 2007 10:00:59 -0700 Message-ID: <465C5C44.8060701@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:00:52 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin Percival References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9A71B398435148D55065F2EE" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:01:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9A71B398435148D55065F2EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Colin Percival wrote: > Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there we= re >> severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at th= e >> announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and >> 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did >> this. There's a reason for this...it's a lot of effort. >> >> Folks should realize that making a new release (even a new point >> release) is not just a matter of tagging the tree and typing "make >> release". We (re@) need to figure out exactly what bugs are to be >> fixed, get the changes merged and tested, build at least one release >> candidate, get that tested, and finally build a set of RELEASE bits an= d >> push them out. >=20 > I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past wh= en > X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the= > X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we= > have errata noticed and FreeBSD Update is in the base system, it's vast= ly > easier for users to run "freebsd-update fetch install" than it is for t= hem > to upgrade to a new release. That's a good point. I'd be happy if we never had to do another point release again, since we have to do probably half the work of a normal release cycle but it's completely unexpected and unscheduled. BTW I finally added some mention of freebsd-update(8) to the section of the release notes that talks about upgrading FreeBSD. Only on HEAD for now, I'll put this on RELENG_6 when I get a Round Tuit. >> PS. This having been said I know there are some kernel fixes that wer= e >> candidates for errata against 6.2-RELEASE...I'm not sure what their >> current state is. >=20 > Don't ask me, I just approve the errata which you send to me. Which ha= sn't > been anything at all lately. :-) Ah no, we haven't sent you anything as of late, and that's the problem. = :-) Bruce. --------------enig9A71B398435148D55065F2EE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXFxE2MoxcVugUsMRAgsQAKCOYe4SYFY0Hj7nhctMJ3tAph49dQCffwhY OI4mTUGDQJsDXBRq9Llb29M= =hu+8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9A71B398435148D55065F2EE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:19:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9CE16A469 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B5413C468 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 38A20541; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:19:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:19:05 -0500 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Message-ID: <20070529181904.GC8255@soaustin.net> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <499c70c0705290318t3e147705hc3ebbf91fa439966@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499c70c0705290318t3e147705hc3ebbf91fa439966@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Volker , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:19:06 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:18:51PM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Voker, I think with ports freeze still the case, they can't release a > new version before sorting all Xorg 7.2 issues IMHO. The freeze has been lifted. OTOH things are still settling down. mcl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:22:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E5316A400 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0B213C458 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 28CB8A50; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:22:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:22:24 -0500 To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Volker , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:22:26 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also > impact this. At BSDCan, Ken Smith mentioned that 7.0 is due to be branched in July and released in Aug/Sep, with 6.3 quickly following (perhaps even overlapping so as to reuse the same ports freeze). The ports tree is not even close to stable enough to release right now. mcl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:30:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C5416A41F for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from frontmail.ipactive.de (frontmail.maindns.de [85.214.95.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264C413C448 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (Q7cac.q.ppp-pool.de [89.53.124.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by frontmail.ipactive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5412883F; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cesar.sz.vwsoft.com (cesar.sz.vwsoft.com [192.168.16.3]) by mail.vtec.ipme.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819B3F9EC; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:29:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <465C70FD.90909@vwsoft.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 20:29:17 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce A. Mah" References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VWSoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com X-ipactive-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ipactive-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ipactive-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:30:12 -0000 On 05/29/07 17:26, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > And that's just the src/ part. The original poster was mostly concerned > about the X.org upgrade, which as we all know lives in the ports/ tree. > If we were to do a "point release" we'd basically require a complete > port freeze and package build run. I believe that we did do that for > both 4.6.2-RELEASE and 5.2.1-RELEASE. As someone's pointed out, the > ports committers are still fixing up some of the rough edges around the > X.org update, so that part of the tree isn't even ready to go yet. > > The way I see it (and this is just my personal opinion, not an official > statement from re@), doing a point release now would be a distraction > from our next scheduled release, which is 7.0. Bruce, is there any ETA for 7-STABLE? Thx Volker From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:51:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DFA16A476 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ADD13C4CC for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646058960-1926380 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: <465C73DB.3040500@tellurian.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:41:31 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: Subject: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:36 -0000 Hello all, I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing packet loss with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. I thought it was the server at first but I did a clean install of FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on another 2650 and see the same issue. This issue did not exist in FreeBSD 5.3 or 4.11. Going from FreeBSD 5.3 to 6.0 is when this problem was introduced. I also installed FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 and don't see any loss at all. This also uses the bge driver but it has a newer chipset, specifically the BCM5708 vs the problem I'm having with the BCM5703 on the 2650. For my tests I am running extended pings from a Cisco router on the same subnet. I have tuned net.inet.icmp.icmplim to -1 to disable ICMP rate limiting. The packet loss doesn't appear to follow any particular pattern and is generally low, but still there. Below is my dmesg output of one of the 2650's in question followed by an example of the loss I am seeing: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 27 00:37:31 EST 2007 root@engbox.tellurian.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENGBOX Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2781.54-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> real memory = 4026400768 (3839 MB) avail memory = 3942182912 (3759 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 32-47 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 4.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 14.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x17 7,0x376,0x8b0-0x8bf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfe100000-0xfe100fff irq 5 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered isab0: at device 15.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib1: on acpi0 pci4: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 8.0 on pci4 pci5: on pcib2 aac0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff irq 30 at device 8.1 on pci4 aac0: [FAST] aac0: Adaptec Raid Controller 2.0.0-1 pcib3: on acpi0 pci3: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xfcf10000-0xfcf1ffff irq 28 a t device 6.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX -FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:56:ba:73:bf bge1: mem 0xfcf00000-0xfcf0ffff irq 29 a t device 8.0 on pci3 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX -FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:0d:56:ba:73:c1 pcib4: on acpi0 pci2: on pcib4 pcib5: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib5 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 aacd0: on aac0 aacd0: 34712MB (71091456 sectors) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/aacd0s1a bge0: link state changed to UP Router#ping 216.182.1.13 repeat 1000 Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 1000, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 216.182.1.13, timeout is 2 seconds: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!.!!!.!!!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 99 percent (997/1000), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/1/8 ms -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 18:51:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB82216A498 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0813C48A for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l4THe9pD014731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:40:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with UUCP id l4THe9Cs014730 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:40:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost.klemm.apsfilter.org [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.14.1/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4SB8xao001823 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:08:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id l4SB8wTZ001822 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2007 13:08:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 13:08:58 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070528110858.GA1656@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: 6.2: maillog grows, newsyslog's misbehaving ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:51:48 -0000 Hi, discovered that the maillog file on my freebsd Desktop grows and grows (now at 50MB). According to the newsyslog.conf file it should be trimmed every night at midnight. /var/log/maillog 640 7 * @T00 JC Is it a prerequisite, that the system then runs 24x7 so that the newsyslog default settings work ? I would have expected, that the trimming then happens on the next reboot, if the system doesn't run over midnight. Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 6 Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:44:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3047B16A421 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@netfirms.com) Received: from mh.netfirms.com (mh2.netfirms.com [66.46.53.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8929E13C45B for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@netfirms.com) Received: (qmail 26795 invoked from network); 29 May 2007 19:46:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gort.nfcorp.netfirms.com) (192.168.2.86) by 0 with SMTP; 29 May 2007 19:46:45 -0000 Received: by gort.nfcorp.netfirms.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8036E178793; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:21:55 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: steve@netfirms.com (steve) Subject: vnode_pager_putpages errors on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:44:55 -0000 Howdy! I had this issue on 4.x, which is basically, I have machines that do cgi stuff for customers, and there is a local md device that is used as a tmp. When it fills the machine logs errors vnode_pager_putpages I/O error 28.. and the machine is unresponsive and needs to be power cycled. There is a previous thread on this issue http://atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19031.html and a subsequent patch for 4.x http://atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19288.html that I appled to 4.x and it solved the problem. Now that I have upgraded to 6.2, the problem has recurred, but the previous patch is no longer valid. Is there something wrong with the patch/solution given, and is there a solution for 6.2? thanx - steve From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:51:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F7C16A41F for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873A713C465 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so685629anc for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dHY6y2SvZqCGg164bW0M9lBaB6uF6+SrOXixx3lfmlQgckLXuvZ4Er3HE0tPvaozk6WNVT7k6Htor6ffkc0WKs5zonOB0RjggnZNn5UMCQoSv+UjoL+oyhDeVRM6F+8n2vojlmr/JiLJ+tbveYXrFWj3M3iGmv+0s41pCtIqP5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qpiPRpS0y8ZnFE8jbRbBQv5I8cg0Q1M58yIOHTNFh3g53pJVtnkoa35426P44aySBQDfg2xT/XLSkEVKmUQuA/fzVugp4N+hRAcZ7PD8N1wfuxRPvuSKDwDeHfGjR0r87Ok+rZL3QzERQEsBJ4E6r+17wS2zM+KHcytiiPAs8+8= Received: by 10.78.168.1 with SMTP id q1mr922798hue.1180468275978; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.107.13 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:51:15 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" To: steve In-Reply-To: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnode_pager_putpages errors on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:51:20 -0000 On 5/29/07, steve wrote: > Howdy! > > I had this issue on 4.x, which is basically, I have > machines that do cgi stuff for customers, and there is a local > md device that is used as a tmp. When it fills the machine > logs errors > > vnode_pager_putpages I/O error 28.. > > and the machine is unresponsive and needs to be > power cycled. > > There is a previous thread on this issue > > http://atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19031.html > > and a subsequent patch for 4.x > > http://atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19288.html > > that I appled to 4.x and it solved the problem. > > Now that I have upgraded to 6.2, the problem has > recurred, but the previous patch is no longer valid. Is > there something wrong with the patch/solution given, and > is there a solution for 6.2? > > thanx - steve > All the patch does is rate limit error messages to once per second and return VM_PAGER_BAD when there is an error. Constructing a similar patch for 6.2 should be trivial. -Kip From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 19:53:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B8716A473; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2242613C4B0; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4TJrSu2056728; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:53:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <465C84B5.10500@samsco.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:53:25 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin Percival References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Tue, 29 May 2007 13:53:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:53:32 -0000 Colin Percival wrote: > Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were >> severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the >> announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and >> 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did >> this. There's a reason for this...it's a lot of effort. >> >> Folks should realize that making a new release (even a new point >> release) is not just a matter of tagging the tree and typing "make >> release". We (re@) need to figure out exactly what bugs are to be >> fixed, get the changes merged and tested, build at least one release >> candidate, get that tested, and finally build a set of RELEASE bits and >> push them out. > > I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past when > X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the > X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we > have errata noticed and FreeBSD Update is in the base system, it's vastly > easier for users to run "freebsd-update fetch install" than it is for them > to upgrade to a new release. > Not really. 5.2.1 existed because people were having problems getting 5.2 installed on their ATA disks. If you have big problems with storage or network, freebsd-update isn't going to be of much use to you. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 20:13:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA37E16A421 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B550913C44B for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIT008KBK6AJ4D0@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JIT00BKEK697O00@pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIT002HUK688980@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 964 invoked from network); Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:02 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:13:01 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <465C84B5.10500@samsco.org> To: Scott Long Message-id: <465C894D.8080909@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> <465C84B5.10500@samsco.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 20:13:34 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: >> I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past when >> X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the >> X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we >> have errata noticed and FreeBSD Update is in the base system, it's vastly >> easier for users to run "freebsd-update fetch install" than it is for >> them to upgrade to a new release. > > Not really. 5.2.1 existed because people were having problems getting > 5.2 installed on their ATA disks. If you have big problems with storage > or network, freebsd-update isn't going to be of much use to you. Good point, I was forgetting exactly what the problems were that time. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 21:41:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C115C16A400; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp6.server.rpi.edu (smtp6.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED813C448; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp6.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4TKQmUu001202; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:26:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070528110858.GA1656@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> References: <20070528110858.GA1656@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:26:47 -0400 To: Andreas Klemm , stable@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.226 Cc: Subject: Re: 6.2: maillog grows, newsyslog's misbehaving ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:41:11 -0000 At 1:08 PM +0200 5/28/07, Andreas Klemm wrote: >Hi, > >discovered that the maillog file on my freebsd Desktop >grows and grows (now at 50MB). > >According to the newsyslog.conf file it should be trimmed >every night at midnight. > >/var/log/maillog 640 7 * @T00 JC > >Is it a prerequisite, that the system then runs 24x7 so >that the newsyslog default settings work ? As mentioned in the man page for newsyslog.conf : If a time is specified, the log file will only be trimmed if newsyslog(8) is run within one hour of the specified time. You could force a rotate by running newsyslog yourself: /usr/sbin/newsyslog -F /var/log/maillog but that would be a one-time fix. There is a startup file for newsyslog in /etc/rc.d which runs the program one-time at startup. You could set an alternate value for the variable 'newsyslog_flags' in your /etc/rc.conf file, and use that to do the checks you want at startup. This would probably mean creating a duplicate newsyslog.conf file. So, to answer your question: Yes, the default settings for newsyslog.conf do assume that your system is running 24x7. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 22:14:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0576216A41F for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 22:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@mschuette.name) Received: from mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [141.89.58.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B714513C46C for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 22:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@mschuette.name) Received: from localhost (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [141.89.58.198]) by mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626C734C16 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:58:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: on mail at asta.uni-potsdam.de Received: from mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de ([141.89.58.198]) by localhost (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [141.89.58.198]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y63jKrfoW64a for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:58:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (BAA567c.baa.pppool.de [77.128.86.124]) by mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B3834C14 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:58:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <465CA1B5.6080402@mschuette.name> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:57:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Sch=FCtte?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <005d01c7a169$b48c7390$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk><465B4C2B.6060104@freebsd.org><003701c7a187$bc8f8e10$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:14:49 -0000 Steven Hartland schrieb: > From our side we'll have to > switch to using gnutar until this issue is resolved as we need to ensure > compatibility. gnutar is available as a package. -- Martin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 23:15:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C7916A468; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A243513C45A; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (y6opgh2ilkzo4pwy@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l4TNFb9g087653; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id l4TNFbDq087652; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:15:36 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Steven Hartland Message-ID: <20070529231536.GA4602@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steven Hartland , Colin Percival , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:15:39 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote this message on Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:46 +0100: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Percival" > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Percival" > >>>>tar -xvzf test.tar.gz > >>>>tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' > >>>>tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' > >>>>tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' > >>>>cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav > >>>>tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors > >>> > >>>This looks like fairly typical symptoms of gnutar being broken. What > >>>makes you think that the archive created by BSD tar was invalid? > >> > >>As a filename should have no bearing on what extended headers > >>are set. > > > >Why not? In this case, bsdtar is detecting that the file name contains > >non-7-bit-ascii characters and is emitting a pax header for that reason; > >and since it can't suppress the pax header entirely, it goes ahead and > >emits the "not vital but potentially useful" headers for the device #, > >inode #, number of links, and high precision timestamps. > > > >I still see no evidence that bsdtar is doing anything wrong. > > I suppose this then comes down to the fact that gnu tar is the prevalent > version out there and as such with BSD creating archives which are > incompatible with that leads to problems. From our side we'll have to > switch to using gnutar until this issue is resolved as we need to ensure > compatibility. Is the file incorrect when extracted? or is this a mater of gtar throwing an error because of the tar format, and an option to bsdtar could be provided to change the output tar format? -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 01:09:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB64416A469; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350E913C4B0; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on core6.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from r2d2 ([212.135.219.182]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v9.5.4) with ESMTP id md50003867858.msg; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:08:51 +0100 Message-ID: <004601c7a257$09cc58f0$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "John-Mark Gurney" References: <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <20070529231536.GA4602@funkthat.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 02:08:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Wed, 30 May 2007 02:08:52 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Wed, 30 May 2007 02:08:52 +0100 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 01:09:25 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John-Mark Gurney" > Is the file incorrect when extracted? or is this a mater of gtar throwing > an error because of the tar format, and an option to bsdtar could be provided > to change the output tar format? The file is correct when extracted but gtar is, as you say, throwing an error because of the tar format. The exit error is the issue as in a scripted environment, as we have, the error causes the failure of the whole operation. == bsd tar archived == tar -xvzf test.tar.gz tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.ino' tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.nlink' cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [root@dev3]/tmp: cksum cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav 1601232891 1766066 cantiquedenoël1_loop.wav == gnu tar archived == [root@dev3]/tmp: tar -xvzf test1.tar.gz cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav [root@dev3]/tmp: cksum cantiquedeno\353l1_loop.wav 1601232891 1766066 cantiquedenoël1_loop.wav Regards Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 01:45:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A24716A469 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753BD13C448 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763FEEB59E6; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:45:12 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NqZC0actoUGa; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:45:08 +0800 (CST) Received: from LI-Xins-MacBook.local (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAEEB59A7; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:45:06 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=WGDsqBIhfwMG+9IsYyeDORffdlcXg9d37V3ZkNyfQETVyKb1kgAxBksB7FTom5q9A uqxkcBXTZi4+aJWuRWzBw== Message-ID: <465CD713.5080309@delphij.net> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:44:51 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steve References: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> In-Reply-To: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig26DCA4F4826E44FD7C917E58" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnode_pager_putpages errors on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 01:45:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig26DCA4F4826E44FD7C917E58 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010204080004000802070901" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010204080004000802070901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Steve, steve wrote: [...] > http://atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19288.html >=20 > that I appled to 4.x and it solved the problem. >=20 > Now that I have upgraded to 6.2, the problem has > recurred, but the previous patch is no longer valid. Is > there something wrong with the patch/solution given, and > is there a solution for 6.2? In RELENG_6_2, the rate limit part of the patch was implemented in a different way. Could you please try this patch to see if it solves your problem? Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------010204080004000802070901 Content-Type: text/plain; name="patch-vnode_pager.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="patch-vnode_pager.c" Index: vnode_pager.c =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c,v retrieving revision 1.221.2.7 diff -u -p -u -r1.221.2.7 vnode_pager.c --- vnode_pager.c 14 Oct 2006 06:04:32 -0000 1.221.2.7 +++ vnode_pager.c 30 May 2007 01:43:39 -0000 @@ -1083,6 +1083,7 @@ vnode_pager_generic_putpages(vp, m, byte struct iovec aiov; int error; int ioflags; + int status; int ppscheck =3D 0; static struct timeval lastfail; static int curfail; @@ -1177,8 +1178,9 @@ vnode_pager_generic_putpages(vp, m, byte printf("vnode_pager_putpages: residual I/O %d at %lu\n", auio.uio_resid, (u_long)m[0]->pindex); } + status =3D error ? VM_PAGER_BAD : VM_PAGER_OK; for (i =3D 0; i < ncount; i++) { - rtvals[i] =3D VM_PAGER_OK; + rtvals[i] =3D status; } return rtvals[0]; } --------------010204080004000802070901-- --------------enig26DCA4F4826E44FD7C917E58 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXNcTOfuToMruuMARCtAVAKCC0TJYuGsn85uhrETKpWO7rKQaxwCgiLYk 70u1hCYv/tamrg6wYR2aUM8= =d/Jv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig26DCA4F4826E44FD7C917E58-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 02:00:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345116A46B; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC2D13C45E; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (4cofh6dcmzkpeczg@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l4U202lj090211; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id l4U201e2090187; Tue, 29 May 2007 19:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:00:00 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Steven Hartland Message-ID: <20070530020000.GC4602@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steven Hartland , Colin Percival , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <20070529231536.GA4602@funkthat.com> <004601c7a257$09cc58f0$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004601c7a257$09cc58f0$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 02:00:03 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote this message on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:08 +0100: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John-Mark Gurney" > >Is the file incorrect when extracted? or is this a mater of gtar throwing > >an error because of the tar format, and an option to bsdtar could be > >provided > >to change the output tar format? > > The file is correct when extracted but gtar is, as you say, throwing > an error because of the tar format. The exit error is the issue as in > a scripted environment, as we have, the error causes the failure of the > whole operation. Have you tried the --format argument to bsdtar? Maybe ustar or pax will make gtar happier... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 02:04:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5536816A421 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC813C457 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.214]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIU000VC0EPEH80@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JIU00HEA0EPIVV0@pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIU007KW0ENH0E0@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 20:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14582 invoked from network); Wed, 30 May 2007 02:03:41 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 02:03:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:03:40 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <004601c7a257$09cc58f0$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> To: Steven Hartland Message-id: <465CDB7C.5010504@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <465B9BA3.30905@freebsd.org> <00fe01c7a1de$aff18080$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> <20070529231536.GA4602@funkthat.com> <004601c7a257$09cc58f0$b6db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: John-Mark Gurney , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug in BSD tar? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 02:04:11 -0000 Steven Hartland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John-Mark Gurney" > >> Is the file incorrect when extracted? or is this a mater of gtar >> throwing >> an error because of the tar format, and an option to bsdtar could be >> provided >> to change the output tar format? > > The file is correct when extracted but gtar is, as you say, throwing > an error because of the tar format. The exit error is the issue as in > a scripted environment, as we have, the error causes the failure of the > whole operation. GNU tar is broken. POSIX specifically allows for vendor extensions (such as the SCHILY.* extensions which were introduced by star), and the correct way to handle them is by printing a warning message, ignoring the extension, and not treating it as an error. You can work around gtar's breakage by explicitly telling it to ignore these options via --pax-option="delete=SCHILY.*" . Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:34:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F7916A400 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9FB13C44B for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (luzyro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4U9Y7cj022618; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:34:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l4U9Y7eJ022617; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:34:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:34:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vinny@tellurian.com In-Reply-To: <465C73DB.3040500@tellurian.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 30 May 2007 11:34:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vinny@tellurian.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:34:16 -0000 Vinny Abello wrote: > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing packet loss > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. Have you enabled polling on the interface? I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible." -- John William Chambless From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 11:12:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE03816A468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cedric.devillers@script.univ-paris7.fr) Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D54513C469 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cedric.devillers@script.univ-paris7.fr) Received: from tzolkin.script.univ-paris7.fr (tzolkin.script.univ-paris7.fr [81.194.16.130]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/relay1/10759) with ESMTP id l4UAfq9b017182 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ganymede (ganymede.script.univ-paris7.fr [81.194.16.163]) by tzolkin.script.univ-paris7.fr (8.12.10/8.12.11/SCRIPT-1.1.2.1/1.1.10.2) with ESMTP id l4UAYMEj016108 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:34:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from ganymede.script.univ-paris7.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEDC2003 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:34:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:34:05 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?C=E9dric?= Devillers To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070530123405.1afea484@ganymede.script.univ-paris7.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Wed, 30 May 2007 12:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Problem with external usb harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:12:33 -0000 Hello, I have a problem with an external usb harddisk in FreeBSD 5.4. It seems to be recognize but when I try to fdisk it, I have the following message : fdisk: can't open device /dev/da0 fdisk: cannot open disk /dev/da0: Input/output error The kernel dmesg is : umass0: VIA Technologies Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Bridge, rev 2.00/0.03, addr 2 umass0: 8070i (ATAPI) over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 78533MB (160836480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 10011C) umass0: Invalid CSW: tag 7 should be 8 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x10, scsi status == 0x0 Opened disk da0 -> 5 Is there a solution? Thanks for your responses. Cordialy, Cedric From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 11:43:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C5F16A468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonzo@pbxpress.com) Received: from bugor.portaone.com (bugor.portaone.com [65.61.203.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90A013C45D for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonzo@pbxpress.com) Received: from mail.pbxpress.com ([65.61.203.142] helo=leaf.pbxpress.com) by bugor.portaone.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)id 1HtMCs-000EeD-AH for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 04:19:10 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.6] (k3-gw.portaone.com [193.28.87.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by leaf.pbxpress.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l4UBJoAx066685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 04:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gonzo@pbxpress.com) Message-ID: <465D5D8E.2050102@pbxpress.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:18:38 +0300 From: Oleksandr Tymoshenko User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090007020104090107070104" X-Spam-Status: No, recieved from customer server pbxpress.com or rt.portaone.com Cc: Subject: acpi_hpet panic on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:43:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090007020104090107070104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 6.2-STABLE box panics on boot trying to initialize acpi_hpet0. The problem is "divide by zero" exception and takes place in dev/acpica/acpi_hpet.c in acpi_hpet_attach. HPET_OFFSET_PERIOD register is zero and there is no check for it. I've added this check for my system, though I'm not sure it's the best solution. dmesg is attached in case it might be useful. -- Sincerely, Oleksandr Tymoshenko PBXpress Communications, Inc. http://www.pbxpress.com Tel./Fax.: +1 866 SIP PBX1 Ext. 656 --------------090007020104090107070104 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #3: Wed May 30 11:04:17 UTC 2007 root@wooster.pbxpress.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WOOSTER WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2009.16-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x40fb2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x2001 AMD Features=0xea500800 AMD Features2=0x1f Cores per package: 2 real memory = 1039204352 (991 MB) avail memory = 992591872 (946 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.7 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pci0: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) isab0: port 0x8800-0x887f at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xf2204000-0xf2204fff irq 18 at device 11.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xf2208000-0xf22080ff irq 19 at device 11.1 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: EHCI version 1.0 usb1: companion controller, 8 ports each: usb0 usb1: on ehci0 usb1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1: nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8c00-0x8c0f at device 13.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x8c40-0x8c47,0x8c34-0x8c37,0x8c38-0x8c3f,0x8c30-0x8c33,0x8c10-0x8c1f mem 0xf2205000-0xf2205fff irq 20 at device 14.0 on pci0 ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0x8c58-0x8c5f,0x8c4c-0x8c4f,0x8c50-0x8c57,0x8c48-0x8c4b,0x8c20-0x8c2f mem 0xf2206000-0xf2206fff irq 21 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata4: on atapci2 ata5: on atapci2 pcib3: at device 16.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib3 pci0: at device 16.1 (no driver attached) nve0: port 0x8c60-0x8c67 mem 0xf2207000-0xf2207fff irq 23 at device 20.0 on pci0 nve0: Ethernet address 00:30:05:a7:bc:30 miibus0: on nve0 rgephy0: on miibus0 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto nve0: Ethernet address: 00:30:05:a7:bc:30 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0x1e0e000-0x1e0efff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 22 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A acpi_hpet0: iomem 0x1e0e000-0x1e0efff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 orm0: at iomem 0xcf000-0xcffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled ukbd0: CHESEN USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: CHESEN USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: DVDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 76319MB at ata2-master SATA300 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a --------------090007020104090107070104-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 13:16:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE37A16A469 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B6613C46A for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp80-24.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.80.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4UDGVqC066111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2007 22:46:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Kostik Belousov Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:46:17 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705292022.05928.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070530123805.GH2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20070530123805.GH2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1798743.QMaW3Ap2An"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705302246.26750.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Rong-en Fan Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:16:34 -0000 --nextPart1798743.QMaW3Ap2An Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 30 May 2007 22:08, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > The second one is more accurate as I didn't copy it from a blurry > > photo :) > > Could you, please, show the complete output from the boot, including > btx banner ? That's it.. With my i965 system I don't appear to be able to get it to boot from USB=20 without trying the RAID array as I have to press F5 to get it to boot=20 from USB (even if I pick USB-HDD in the BIOS boot menu) So I press F5 and then it prints what I wrote.. =461 DOS =462 FreeBSD =465 Drive 1 Default: F2 (I Press F5) =2D int=3D0000000d ... =2E.. BTX halted =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1798743.QMaW3Ap2An Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGXXkq5ZPcIHs/zowRAmg4AJ9PP5pgvIwdzQKb5hcHYkcGfZ791gCdG4Ds 5I2jab6yKEFweMDPjWh1+Hs= =SR9R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1798743.QMaW3Ap2An-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 14:31:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A6A16A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca) Received: from wrdsl02.terago.ca (wrdsl02.terago.ca [207.54.102.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2EB13C43E for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (unknown [64.201.181.165]) by wrdsl02.terago.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5538D86E76 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 09:31:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Roger Miranda" Organization: Digital Relay Inc. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:32:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705300932.28190.rmiranda@digitalrelay.ca> Subject: Dead lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:31:53 -0000 Good Day, I've brought up this issue in the past. I've now got a bit more informatio= n=20 but still no solution. I am looking for a way to debug this anyway I can. We got a freebsd 6.2 (FreeBSD =A06.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0) machin= e=20 running if_bridge as a intercept proxy. We have added the following kernel options: options=A0DDB options=A0KDB options=A0BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options=A0INVARIANTS options=A0INVARIANTS_SUPPORT options=A0WITNESS options=A0DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS options=A0DEBUG_MEMGUARD We were getting an LOR but fixed it but removing "kern.polling.enable"=20 in /etc/sysctl.conf As of right now the machine goes into dead lock within a few hours (only wh= en=20 on the network). I get no WITNESS errors (LORs), or kernel dumps, or=20 anything in the logs that look like an error or out of the ordinary. Is there anything else I could try? or am I looking at a hardware failure? see demsg below. Roger =2D--DMESG output---- Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. =46reeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. =46reeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 23 10:21:44 UTC 2007 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. MEMGUARD DEBUGGING ALLOCATOR INITIALIZED: MEMGUARD map base: 0xc327d000 MEMGUARD map limit: 0xc42ed000 MEMGUARD map size: 17235968 (Bytes) ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193510 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz (2792.83-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf34 Stepping =3D 4 =20 =46eatures=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x441d> real memory =3D 535691264 (510 MB) avail memory =3D 514809856 (490 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 em0: port 0xc000-0xc= 01f=20 mem 0xf2000000-0xf201ffff irq 18 at device 1.0 on pci1 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:86:97:62 pcib2: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pci0: at device 29.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.5 (no driver=20 attached) pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pci3: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) em1: port 0xd100-0xd= 13f=20 mem 0xf1000000-0xf101ffff irq 19 at device 10.0 on pci3 em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:86:97:63 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port=20 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on= =20 pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acp= i0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2792827369 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IP Filter: v4.1.13 initialized. Default =3D pass all, Logging =3D enabled ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled,= =20 default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default ad0: 977MB at ata0-master PIO4 ad2: 76319MB at ata1-master SATA150 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a em0: link state changed to DOWN bridge0: Ethernet address: 72:59:fa:79:40:73 em0: promiscuous mode enabled em1: promiscuous mode enabled em0: link state changed to UP em1: link state changed to UP From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:04:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1CB16A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39EE13C487 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F8EB80C for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> References: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4C5A41EF-BA0A-4D63-86B9-FC0A4A8CF915@khera.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vivek Khera Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:04:47 -0400 To: FreeBSD Stable List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:04:50 -0000 On May 27, 2007, at 2:48 AM, Duane Whitty wrote: > Has anyone else encountered local rc scripts running > twice? I thought I saw something about this on one > of the @freebsd.org lists but my search efforts haven't > located it yet. > No, but I have noticed local periodic/daily scripts running twice on 6.2. Particularly, the postgres nightly vacuum. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:07:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB06016A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195013C448 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B33B80C for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1180267873.19278.26.camel@neo.zion> References: <20070527064850.GA1212@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <1180267873.19278.26.camel@neo.zion> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vivek Khera Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:07:28 -0400 To: FreeBSD Stable List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Some local rc scripts running twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:07:29 -0000 On May 27, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > If the above assumption holds true ... did you run the mergebase.sh > script as suggested in /usr/ports/UPDATING ? > > Most significantly .. this script adds the following entry to > your /etc/rc.conf > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > Hrm... seems this needs to be done for local_periodic in periodic.conf also! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 16:44:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C28216A469 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3486813C4BD for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4UGihk7091981; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 03A3BB826; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:42 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?C=E9dric?= Devillers Message-ID: <20070530164442.GB42972@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?C=E9dric?= Devillers , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20070530123405.1afea484@ganymede.script.univ-paris7.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070530123405.1afea484@ganymede.script.univ-paris7.fr> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with external usb harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:44:45 -0000 --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:34:05PM +0200, C=E9dric Devillers wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a problem with an external usb harddisk in FreeBSD 5.4. > It seems to be recognize but when I try to fdisk it, I have the following > message : fdisk: can't open device /dev/da0 > fdisk: cannot open disk /dev/da0: Input/output error >=20 > The kernel dmesg is : >=20 > umass0: VIA Technologies Inc. USB 2.0 IDE Bridge, rev 2.00/0.03, addr 2 > umass0: 8070i (ATAPI) over Bulk-Only; quirks =3D 0x0000 > umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device=20 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 78533MB (160836480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 10011C) > umass0: Invalid CSW: tag 7 should be 8 > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status =3D=3D 0x10, scs= i status =3D=3D 0x0=20 > Opened disk da0 -> 5 >=20 > Is there a solution? You could try if it works with 6.2. Release 5.4 is old and no longer suppor= ted. Some USB mass storage devices have quirks. If they are known, the driver handles them specially. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGXan6EnfvsMMhpyURAldGAJ9vWV/hl005ZlKHRqMWRFfb7bj2VgCeLki4 ec+lk7F5a/9KJScPZSb8JHo= =qx4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 17:44:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DBF16A400 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DE213C46A for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646628296-1926380 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:34:42 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 17:44:49 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Vinny Abello wrote: > > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing packet loss > > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the > > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. > > Have you enabled polling on the interface? > > I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 > running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). > The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". > > Best regards > Oliver Thanks for the suggestion. Either I am doing something wrong or ifconfig doesn't understand the polling argument. I'm wondering if it is supported by the driver on this chipset. [root@test] ~# ifconfig bge0 polling ifconfig: polling: Invalid argument [root@test] ~# ifconfig bge0 bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=1b inet 216.182.1.13 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 216.182.1.255 ether 00:0d:56:ba:73:bf media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 17:49:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6EC16A421 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED0413C43E for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646630778-1926380 for multiple; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:39:17 -0400 Message-ID: <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:39:17 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vinny@tellurian.com References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 17:49:21 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Vinny Abello wrote: > > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing packet loss > > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the > > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. > > Have you enabled polling on the interface? > > I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 > running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). > The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". > > Best regards > Oliver It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and post my results to the list. Thanks! -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:03:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F2016A400 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E965113C468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDB3C1CC033; Wed, 30 May 2007 10:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:46:31 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Vinny Abello Message-ID: <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: Vinny Abello , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:03:10 -0000 On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. Either I am doing something wrong or ifconfig > doesn't understand the polling argument. I'm wondering if it is > supported by the driver on this chipset. You need to enable "options DEVICE_POLLING" in your kernel. See polling(4). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:13:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5722A16A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAADB13C458 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so872437anc for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EtQ810E6XbYEgBgGTV1Q29IIhceMIt0Cyp0NJhXGAXTlZyVFXjlr4KxkfbQQZS4NbFLlkPFqJNYPilW4K8LyheExLdS0CaI4NAkSqnPSPWVF4jFJ23gUn5gKcnzcep1ZB3gsTYzvoiBKt+aQvSfCDBweO/tsQ6xd/xOC0mmrBf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f2UiRGy9qfc5Zcjhb3BLMX34CLU9rktbdXHfqPwF/IjsKDveEVt5yI8NZ3V59R/bg/fBYM3UJV1/wVkGEwqrp+DFh5VKp247feRz9zQ+r3OOfBeS23Kqk2RM8s8u1qH6hOq2yb3318n/+j89QFf7/GD96d1mq9FgYpNI6YikZEU= Received: by 10.100.111.16 with SMTP id j16mr6237016anc.1180548826724; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:13:46 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Vinny Abello" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:13:50 -0000 On 5/30/07, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion. Either I am doing something wrong or ifconfig > > doesn't understand the polling argument. I'm wondering if it is > > supported by the driver on this chipset. > > You need to enable "options DEVICE_POLLING" in your kernel. > > See polling(4). > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > I have it in my kernel, do I need to add polling in rc.conf too? -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:20:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F84A16A468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3381C13C468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646650086-1926380 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 14:20:00 -0400 Message-ID: <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:20:00 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:01 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > On 5/30/07, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: >> > Thanks for the suggestion. Either I am doing something wrong or >> ifconfig >> > doesn't understand the polling argument. I'm wondering if it is >> > supported by the driver on this chipset. >> >> You need to enable "options DEVICE_POLLING" in your kernel. >> >> See polling(4). >> >> -- >> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at >> parodius.com | >> | Parodius Networking >> http://www.parodius.com/ | >> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, >> USA | >> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: >> 4BD6C0CB | >> > > I have it in my kernel, do I need to add polling in rc.conf too? OK, I've enabled polling in my kernel and did ifconfig bge0 polling and it accepted it and shows that polling is enabled on bge0 when checking with ifconfig. Unfortunately, this did not resolve the packet loss issue I wrote about originally. I still have the same loss. :( Any other ideas? Does anyone run a PowerEdge 2650 with FreeBSD 6.0 or later that's on this list? Thanks! -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:23:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0601416A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A533113C458 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so874479anc for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j42TkcZr0XKx+WBpklVVHGkJbfonKixeQlzcbwhmCWjBSVylTNdim7DEaW4+WaR03IS92d5+rp3VjcuLYURH/c7yCYXRY7H3OhN/U+XOlSEWKqiw1LnUHxy7pWgryrK0tsDe0VhbcBUd+qJ/IDj9xE+EFviqp1htUWA/bKE0vN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y6rYLIOAg2MzLaTWqfjD3QXO6UwUe/KTL0Tgo6UCiPQBTWuTRt1mYnu379LxwKnDCIHCEdVfoxjHPy23z17BZs5dPa23nEhZkvnO4f6lQat1hKw4JqnibJdtFZcBshzN+y/6TVYzWyUKzhTJvFwZ6+cnKfbf2tX0gldCHV0wPTU= Received: by 10.100.121.12 with SMTP id t12mr6228854anc.1180549409919; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705301123w6c15aab2ke92c12343ced7629@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:23:29 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Vinny Abello" In-Reply-To: <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:23:37 -0000 On 5/30/07, Vinny Abello wrote: > Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > > On 5/30/07, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:34:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: > >> > Thanks for the suggestion. Either I am doing something wrong or > >> ifconfig > >> > doesn't understand the polling argument. I'm wondering if it is > >> > supported by the driver on this chipset. > >> > >> You need to enable "options DEVICE_POLLING" in your kernel. > >> > >> See polling(4). > >> > >> -- > >> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at > >> parodius.com | > >> | Parodius Networking > >> http://www.parodius.com/ | > >> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, > >> USA | > >> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: > >> 4BD6C0CB | > >> > > > > I have it in my kernel, do I need to add polling in rc.conf too? > > OK, I've enabled polling in my kernel and did ifconfig bge0 polling and > it accepted it and shows that polling is enabled on bge0 when checking > with ifconfig. Unfortunately, this did not resolve the packet loss issue > I wrote about originally. I still have the same loss. :( > > Any other ideas? Does anyone run a PowerEdge 2650 with FreeBSD 6.0 or > later that's on this list? > > Thanks! > > -- > > Vinny Abello > Network Engineer > vinny@tellurian.com > (973)940-6100 > PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A > > Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection > http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN > > "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" > -- Mark Twain I saw bge code changed in RELENG_6 few days ago, I would recommend that you csup and recompile your kernel as well. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:30:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA0616A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: from qsmtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8346313C45E for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: (qmail 14718 invoked from network); 30 May 2007 11:30:24 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 14670, pid: 14672, t: 4.4222s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.90.1/m:43 spam: 3.1.7-deb Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.jim-liesl.org) (66.60.173.44) by qsmtp1 with SMTP; 30 May 2007 11:30:19 -0700 Received: from daemon.jim-liesl.org (localhost.static.surewest.net [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788C5C1D; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (daemon.static.surewest.net [192.168.1.15]) by daemon.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10A5C1C; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <465DC2BA.6040709@jim-liesl.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:30:18 -0700 From: security User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vinny Abello References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> In-Reply-To: <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on qsmtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:30:24 -0000 Vinny Abello wrote: > > OK, I've enabled polling in my kernel and did ifconfig bge0 polling and > it accepted it and shows that polling is enabled on bge0 when checking > with ifconfig. Unfortunately, this did not resolve the packet loss issue > I wrote about originally. I still have the same loss. :( > > Any other ideas? Does anyone run a PowerEdge 2650 with FreeBSD 6.0 or > later that's on this list? > > Thanks! > > Have you checked your buffer usage with "netstat -m"? My apologies if this was already suggested jim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 18:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF4816A476 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A059913C46E for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 18:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646665101-1926380 for multiple; Wed, 30 May 2007 14:49:42 -0400 Message-ID: <465DC746.2090401@tellurian.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:49:42 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: security References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> <465DC2BA.6040709@jim-liesl.org> In-Reply-To: <465DC2BA.6040709@jim-liesl.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:49:44 -0000 security wrote: > Vinny Abello wrote: >> OK, I've enabled polling in my kernel and did ifconfig bge0 polling and >> it accepted it and shows that polling is enabled on bge0 when checking >> with ifconfig. Unfortunately, this did not resolve the packet loss issue >> I wrote about originally. I still have the same loss. :( >> >> Any other ideas? Does anyone run a PowerEdge 2650 with FreeBSD 6.0 or >> later that's on this list? >> >> Thanks! >> >> > Have you checked your buffer usage with "netstat -m"? My apologies if > this was already suggested All suggestions welcomed: 258/267/525 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 256/134/390/25600 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 256/128 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 576K/334K/911K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/4/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines I'm not sure how to interpret the information or if any of it is indicating a problem where buffers need adjustment. -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 19:03:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D445416A46F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5F13C468 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 19:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B578D1CC033; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:03:40 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Vinny Abello Message-ID: <20070530190340.GA28312@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: Vinny Abello , security , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> <465DC2BA.6040709@jim-liesl.org> <465DC746.2090401@tellurian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465DC746.2090401@tellurian.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 19:03:40 -0000 On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:49:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: > All suggestions welcomed: Your mbuf counts look OK. I don't see anything there which looks like a problem. If you had packet loss caused by mbuf exhaustion, your FreeBSD console log would show something. I've some couple questions: 1) Checked console logs (dmesg -a) to see if there's anything there which might give you hints to the problem? 2) Any IPMI modules installed in that Dell box? 3) vmstat -i output? 4) Is there a switch between the Cisco router and the FreeBSD box? 5) If there is a switch between the router and the FreeBSD box, have you tried the pings from a box (not the Cisco) on the same switch segment as the FreeBSD box? 6) Have you tried pings the other way (FreeBSD box -> box#2, and box#2 -> FreeBSD box) to see if its reproducable that way? 7) Does it only happen with ICMP traffic, or can you reproduce the loss using something like FTP (slow transfer rates/stalls)? 8) Tried downthrottling to 100mbit (ifconfig_bge0="... media 100baseTX") on both sides, to see if it's a gigabit-specific problem? 9) Tried different cabling? I see the network is gigabit. You might try replacing the cables, preferably with CAT6. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 20:01:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9700716A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 20:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pippogr@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7412913C483 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 20:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pippogr@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so894984anc for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:01:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LlhNP4yzJvUbcrI+rWR2gpMehXpo1Y9EtSWhb54KH184veorqL/0ZXbQx9CnKKDSTwYDyNT1ziGjzpzkfQj4dOnYXmiObh6MtcuRh8bSxBSOyiu6tycy/Wql2l4205wiZGr1UiQ9rIqYjl4kEMyROjYHqGPbOQDFqY6MmCYrhKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=h6JO0ZI/3NaM07V3q9zRqGS+vxypgILUZQcJIm24a5HoPjvQhi+9ih9WCk0zo1je22Sg00QELD78F24W2Z8JoC3iFDu7WNSGxE9Y8lJ89/wGkFgFr6gc57ecDwXrgWrhIC/UJEFx21IUfXY+jGfkvv6+m9f7+jKffQ+kbKIGemQ= Received: by 10.115.77.1 with SMTP id e1mr4190598wal.1180553651855; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.134.18 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 12:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7a8375f20705301234h6551db4aq64273c953f24d389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:34:11 +0300 From: "Kyriakos Yioutanis" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Compile KERNEL X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:01:07 -0000 I have a question about compiling the Kernel. I am using the XCP protocol from ISI for testing purposes (like TCP protocol) This protocol changes about 20 files at the system. In order to compile the new KERNEL under FreeBSD-6.0-RELEASE, they provide all the files of the source of the kernel. Then u have to read a configuration file for the options and then the following commands: make cleandepend, make depend, make all and make install. My question is than when i make some minor changes to some files (for example tcp_input.c, tcp_output.c ect.) do i have to compile again all the files that they provide (aka all the previous commands)? Thanks in advance! Koulis Yioutanis From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 20:49:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF1416A469 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 20:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8DE13C455 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 20:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so904548anc for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uLYqiMgx76j35jHP2pRunxHhwHmYJP07AmrF1NaDZM+wxPw61N6L6TR0SY6L2yJHNGB2RfYO1pz4cKLqjzMbK6H4aFEys7BjnrVQdpuvaCGxOv4Tj7d+RGbQhqyewDBYGYD1qTf5O5O0IU/qB1lzq4UP/WjyOiyUFrdU6maKP+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TqtzFsts4FKKUnbbq2q39WwOt1gWGti/PteH9iiNWUwGImoek5t63gb1iq7Wk9JlumaV0CgsfG8j9Pa+3/fG4WivxhfKA22XykG+NvAmX/6y5bC5X09issMY0PTb+6UXM5qoFs4ixulfpcZEIdAv/XXgNWwmSIRsPMbqSUVw2C4= Received: by 10.100.13.12 with SMTP id 12mr873814anm.1180558139391; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 13:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705301348k2b12b868x4cc688b1ed3fabb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:48:59 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: dcons broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:49:04 -0000 Hello, I just csup 60 minutes ago, but make buildworld faild. machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include :> opt_bdg.h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/mii/miibus_if.m -h rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/dc/../../pci/if_dc.c ===> sys/modules/dcons (depend) @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include :> opt_dcons.h echo "#define KDB 1" > opt_ddb.h echo "#define ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER 1" > opt_comconsole.h rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/dcons/../.. -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons/../../dev/dcons/dcons.c /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons/../../dev/dcons/dcons_os.c /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons/../../dev/dcons/dcons_os.c:75:21: opt_kdb.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons/../../dev/dcons/dcons_os.c:76:21: opt_gdb.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 21:44:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F216A41F for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 21:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1E313C447 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 21:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 646752057-1926380 for multiple; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:44:43 -0400 Message-ID: <465DF04B.3090009@tellurian.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 17:44:43 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vinny Abello , security , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB5B2.8040707@tellurian.com> <20070530174631.GA15795@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <499c70c0705301113n58588719j6fb35154701f3cb1@mail.gmail.com> <465DC050.8020707@tellurian.com> <465DC2BA.6040709@jim-liesl.org> <465DC746.2090401@tellurian.com> <20070530190340.GA28312@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20070530190340.GA28312@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:44:44 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:49:42PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: >> All suggestions welcomed: > > Your mbuf counts look OK. I don't see anything there which looks > like a problem. If you had packet loss caused by mbuf exhaustion, > your FreeBSD console log would show something. > > I've some couple questions: > > 1) Checked console logs (dmesg -a) to see if there's anything there > which might give you hints to the problem? I'm on the console. Nothing comes up when there is packet loss. Nothing in the dmesg -a output either likewise... Interestingly, I sometimes forget to adjust the icmplim which will artificially limit the pings in my test. On 4.11, this would show the kernel is doing rate limiting. On 6.2 it does not give any indication. I do confirm that it is not being rate limited though by setting net.inet.icmp.icmplim to some high value or -1 also seems to work. > 2) Any IPMI modules installed in that Dell box? As far as I recall, IPMI support was not added to the PowerEdge servers until the 2850 which supported IPMI 1.5. This is a 2650. There are no addin IPMI cards. There is the built in DRAC controller but that does not share the NIC like happens on the 2850 and 2950 servers. It has it's own dedicated port. Interestingly it uses 3 IRQ's! I tried even switching IRQ's in the BIOS around to make sure the NIC had it's own unshared IRQ but that made no difference either. > 3) vmstat -i output? test# vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 4557 0 irq6: fdc0 10 0 irq14: ata0 47 0 irq28: bge0 304 0 irq30: aac0 2784 0 cpu0: timer 24371045 1999 Total 24378747 2000 > 4) Is there a switch between the Cisco router and the FreeBSD box? Yes, both my production setup and my test setup where I reproduced the problem. > 5) If there is a switch between the router and the FreeBSD box, have > you tried the pings from a box (not the Cisco) on the same switch > segment as the FreeBSD box? Yes, same loss. I tried from several devices on the segment and see the loss, only to the FreeBSD systems running on that specific hardware. > 6) Have you tried pings the other way (FreeBSD box -> box#2, and > box#2 -> FreeBSD box) to see if its reproducable that way? Yes, in fact that is the reason this is such a big problem. I use the production system to measure latency and packet loss, and since going to FreeBSD 6.x, it has been showing random packet loss in my data that isn't there at all. > 7) Does it only happen with ICMP traffic, or can you reproduce the loss > using something like FTP (slow transfer rates/stalls)? It's hard to say. It's definitely with ICMP. I've not noticed it with other data. I'll have to do more testing. > 8) Tried downthrottling to 100mbit (ifconfig_bge0="... media 100baseTX") > on both sides, to see if it's a gigabit-specific problem? My test system is running at 100Mb, same hardware, same problem. > 9) Tried different cabling? I see the network is gigabit. You might > try replacing the cables, preferably with CAT6. Tried changing cables, ports, port speed, switches, tried the second NIC in the system (same model as the first). The only thing I haven't done is put a third party NIC like an Intel Pro/100 in the system and try it. I'm sure it will work ok but I don't know for a fact. I can try that as a test. I have boxes of them sitting next to my desk here. Thanks for your time! :) -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 00:37:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB2E16A41F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 00:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.adriaan@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C336E13C448 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 00:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.adriaan@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h28so1669915wxd for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GMgA1zyd0NwU+mCk+vCKpYmDjVoQ1z1AbeqI4heeRBmOblZvZGQXtoQ0Hua1DRszk/jsMkeZoaz3lvet4icV/s4aUfqVUFaRpY3+yfojpaLIKzDxd6LkpXkBu5en+ap/F5JCl1VtMdkpT/n/RLSqTWrw4YWyq6/w2z0P7xjrvJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JcMDw9YUFyE9lHQxEw+mPKsQOSh1IHhMPgwj3dkd5ANC5m+9LrtpaH7hlXVDgobnq9Yv+duyts2GzqQfkdti4j4FR1bOOOUatDxnhWNTpWYceqzAdr+6hlmAZ4OJmJvkVWndrC+CbxMcs3d1/LbpSLMgDg/2YRJZWlWRP8tOhY0= Received: by 10.70.87.9 with SMTP id k9mr12903570wxb.1180570199078; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.48.13 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <74c3ddc40705301709s516f733ara0cf180a564bf149@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 02:09:58 +0200 From: Adriaan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200705302246.26750.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705292022.05928.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070530123805.GH2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <200705302246.26750.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:37:15 -0000 On 5/30/07, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > int=0000000d ... > ... > BTX halted According to John Baldwin in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-September/028774.html : "Because other OS's run the BIOS in real mode, and we run it in vm86 mode and we don't emulate enough instructions in vm86 mode for the Compaq/HP BIOS." In another post http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-September/028773.html he refers to a patch at http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/btx_crx.patch =Adriaan= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 03:04:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2842116A41F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 03:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566C813C458 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4V33qb6082213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:54 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Kostik Belousov Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:50 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705302246.26750.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070530132241.GI2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20070530132241.GI2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4294696.iXZ5hvyyz2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705311233.51512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Rong-en Fan Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 03:04:00 -0000 --nextPart4294696.iXZ5hvyyz2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 30 May 2007 22:52, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > > > - > > int=3D0000000d ... > > ... > > BTX halted > > You boot from the hard drive, right ? Then, boot2 shall be changed > too, since it uses btx. You should apply the patch, build the world, > then install _both_ new boot blocks using bsdlabel, and loader. Ahh I see, my bad! =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart4294696.iXZ5hvyyz2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGXjsX5ZPcIHs/zowRAmocAJ9nTcfHq/dQXZebxviawQHRuGeqrgCggq6M IPRJ97nR+iEi9fs5jy8Ye4c= =X9iK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4294696.iXZ5hvyyz2-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 05:49:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED88116A48F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 05:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E4013C458 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 05:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4V5nNST002538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2007 15:19:23 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Kostik Belousov Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:19:09 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070530132241.GI2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <200705311233.51512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200705311233.51512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1513315.soDLffsXgd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705311519.18942.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Rong-en Fan Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 05:49:26 -0000 --nextPart1513315.soDLffsXgd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 31 May 2007 12:33, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wednesday 30 May 2007 22:52, Kostik Belousov wrote: > > > - > > > int=3D0000000d ... > > > ... > > > BTX halted > > > > You boot from the hard drive, right ? Then, boot2 shall be changed > > too, since it uses btx. You should apply the patch, build the > > world, then install _both_ new boot blocks using bsdlabel, and > > loader. > > Ahh I see, my bad! I did as you suggest and it works! Thanks so much, now I can have an automated install on a USB stick :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1513315.soDLffsXgd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGXmHe5ZPcIHs/zowRAmmtAJ4xDyI6nb98INcoN2sibgIwdt0rigCglhBB k3LVFc4FLz1a8JWXF8eKwRc= =SQdm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1513315.soDLffsXgd-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 08:06:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEDA16A41F for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBA313C45A for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 08:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4V86E7G019298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2007 17:36:14 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Adriaan Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:36:11 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705302246.26750.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <74c3ddc40705301709s516f733ara0cf180a564bf149@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <74c3ddc40705301709s516f733ara0cf180a564bf149@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1347762.71p3pf2zMZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705311736.13386.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Kostik Belousov , Rong-en Fan , jhb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:06:17 -0000 --nextPart1347762.71p3pf2zMZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 31 May 2007 09:39, Adriaan wrote: > "Because other OS's run the BIOS in real mode, and we run it in vm86 > mode and we don't emulate enough instructions in vm86 mode for the > Compaq/HP BIOS." > > In another post > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-September/0287 >73.html he refers to a patch at > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/btx_crx.patch Ah interesting, there was another patch earlier in this thread which is=20 what I was testing. The patch does work, I hadn't installed the resulting code properly. I am not sure both patches address the same problem though. I added John to the CC list, hope he doesn't mind! It would be nice if these patches were committed before 7.0 too :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1347762.71p3pf2zMZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGXoH15ZPcIHs/zowRAsCjAJoDbntG+GhQXV5l1jcewsHV4ykD6QCfSCNz 8sEatME/kFERidVd3ZuIiQw= =Y0gt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1347762.71p3pf2zMZ-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 10:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251EF16A400 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB4413C465 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 10:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so124672mue for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 03:34:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WQtr6bwj9euW8m0b8/i39YFIv8zQW47l/ZaTtmMYThlYWwWCnQT6GbjaVEbvzfGOAPVHVM0G850h6AWJhWa4gfZ39EPWESJHIj4Xyx+fcMf1AjF76EHomYHAGX9vKMg+qbbfKbvHmRQ841lyVI+eGJ23fxL0NOhT0rrM6KKsObg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nuFziHlrFRjxIXzNk55CQzcyeTo3zG3NecWFXmE8IiKshpfvUUtrBGWXxMsAr9R6trk3m6gHxBDoKErFFrO9CzFX6whnjC+ilAI1W1IavWvw+1TeYEgUP4AlnVYChKFOE90DAuZyq8BzkzVBEPAEW/daYaSmAI/NLl6t+gYsr3g= Received: by 10.82.180.17 with SMTP id c17mr15734113buf.1180607642322; Thu, 31 May 2007 03:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.16.16? ( [91.135.49.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b36sm240150ika.2007.05.31.03.33.49; Thu, 31 May 2007 03:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:31 +0200 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vinny Abello References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> In-Reply-To: <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:34:04 -0000 Vinny Abello wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> Vinny Abello wrote: >> > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing packet loss >> > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the >> > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. >> >> Have you enabled polling on the interface? >> >> I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 >> running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). >> The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". >> >> Best regards >> Oliver > > It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled > my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the > GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and > post my results to the list. > > Thanks! > Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 -txcsum -rxcsum ). -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 11:14:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA3416A46B for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@sixcompanies.com) Received: from cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA3913C469 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbronson@sixcompanies.com) Received: from dakota.sixcompanies.com (cheyenne.sixcompanies.com [10.43.82.170]) by cheyenne.sixcompanies.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4VBEGvC000846; Thu, 31 May 2007 06:14:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200705311114.l4VBEGvC000846@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 06:14:15 -0500 To: Sten Daniel Soersdal From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:14:17 -0000 At 05:33 AM 05/31/2007, Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: >>It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled >>my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the >>GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and >>post my results to the list. >>Thanks! > >Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 >-txcsum -rxcsum ). > >-- >Sten Daniel Soersdal What is the proper syntax for this in /etc/rc.conf? ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.1.1 -txcsum -rxcsum netmask 255.255.255.0" ?? Ironically, this is also recommended under Solaris 10 for the same NIC: =========================== If you have a bge interface (eg, SunFire V210), then you may have NAT problems with ipfilter unless you add the following to /etc/system: set ip:dohwcksum=0 This turns off hardware checksumming, which is on by default with bge interfaces. ========================== -JD From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 11:45:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B84816A468 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAA13C48C for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 11:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so114649wra for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 04:45:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AbaVDlkiMyogyvg/MWYOsbSstlifm9v7EOWsbQSlOgdd56BtOVrJWB1HTXAEXrRNj0IQo5VO+t9bMYhyJrQCuH+hwK/R8BfkIznZRWsnCBtfOjkS9DtCPZqB1fhxNfEqZAsMxdxZILKEQjOZsRtFXJVu3UXREhzbXUl87vke6uU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i01J4tl0U0cXYct2oIKKe36ATew7dxu4LQtxnRF01kHIk3Iunti5EFcNsCQBJMK82epcMAcLNMda37aXsPmpscdLVgAkExSN/K4MJh5S+0JNry0lPIzN3I0MDRHlV8XYYUBTk/YvztbP9BemzWeUel4GmeEtxChR+7uJc1uPw6o= Received: by 10.82.187.16 with SMTP id k16mr15978361buf.1180611930324; Thu, 31 May 2007 04:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.16.16? ( [91.135.49.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b33sm511789ika.2007.05.31.04.45.18; Thu, 31 May 2007 04:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <465EB538.4040901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:44:56 +0200 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hugo Koji Kobayashi References: <20070517215025.GC37175@registro.br> In-Reply-To: <20070517215025.GC37175@registro.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:45:32 -0000 Hugo Koji Kobayashi wrote: > Hello, > > While making some tests with fragmented udp DNS responses (with > EDNS0), we discovered a possible problem with ipf and pf in FreeBSD > 6.2 and 7.0 (200705 snapshot). > > Our test is a DNS query to an DNSSEC enabled server which replies with > a ~4KB udp response. We do this with the following dig command: > > dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 > > ipf and pf in FreeBSD 6.2 or 7.0 block the fragments and the DNS > queries timeout. Disabling the firewall, complete replies are received > with no problem. > > We've made the same tests with FreeBSD 4.11 with ipf and OpenBSD 4.1 > with pf with no problems. You can see a summary of the tests below. > > OS + fw dig result > fbsd4.11 + ipf OK > obsd4.1 + pf OK > fbsd6.2 OK > fbsd6.2 + ipf timeout > fbsd6.2 + pf timeout > fbsd7.0 OK > fbsd7.0 + ipf timeout > fbsd7.0 + pf timeout > > Complete test results (including tcpdump output and firewall rule > sets) are attached. > > Can somebody tell us if he hit a bug or if there is something we are > missing? > By the looks of it, you hit a bug. "scrub in all fragment reassemble" should reassemble good fragments before evaluating the rules. -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 12:25:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFF316A468 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF7A13C455 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5861C1CC033; Thu, 31 May 2007 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 05:25:14 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "J.D. Bronson" Message-ID: <20070531122514.GA52223@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: "J.D. Bronson" , Sten Daniel Soersdal , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> <200705311114.l4VBEGvC000846@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705311114.l4VBEGvC000846@cheyenne.sixcompanies.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:14 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:14:15AM -0500, J.D. Bronson wrote: > What is the proper syntax for this in /etc/rc.conf? > > ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.1.1 -txcsum -rxcsum netmask 255.255.255.0" That should work, according to the syntax in the manpage. If it doesn't, try reversing the options (put them at the end): ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 -txcsum -rxcsum" -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:35:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2131516A400 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cs@schug.net) Received: from schug.net (s0.schug.net [194.97.148.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9D313C44C for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cs@schug.net) Received: by schug.net (Postfix, from userid 10000) id 4FA3DC59FC; Thu, 31 May 2007 18:15:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 18:15:14 +0200 From: Christoph Schug To: steve Message-ID: <20070531161514.GA26373@voodoo.schug.net> References: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070529192155.GA19514@netfirms.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 OpenPKG/2-STABLE (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vnode_pager_putpages errors on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:35:59 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2007, steve wrote: > Howdy! > > I had this issue on 4.x, which is basically, I have > machines that do cgi stuff for customers, and there is a local > md device that is used as a tmp. When it fills the machine > logs errors > > vnode_pager_putpages I/O error 28.. [...] Just for the record: there's still an open discussion on the same issue in PR kern/67919 [1]. Is this issue resolved completely with this patch? [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/67919 Thanks -cs From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 16:37:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E08C16A400 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D88E13C480 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 647242994-1926380 for multiple; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:37:03 -0400 Message-ID: <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:37:03 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sten Daniel Soersdal References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:37:04 -0000 Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > Vinny Abello wrote: >> Oliver Fromme wrote: >>> Vinny Abello wrote: >>> > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing >>> packet loss >>> > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the >>> > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. >>> >>> Have you enabled polling on the interface? >>> >>> I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 >>> running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). >>> The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". >>> >>> Best regards >>> Oliver >> >> It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled >> my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the >> GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and >> post my results to the list. >> >> Thanks! >> > > Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 -txcsum > -rxcsum ). Thanks for the suggestion, but... That's actually one of the first things I tried before writing to the list. No difference. I'm going to put an Intel Pro/100 card in shortly to see if the problem goes away to be certain the issue is definitely with the integrated Broadcom NICs. -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 19:06:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DBE16A468 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE2013C457 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 647319503-1926380 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 15:06:15 -0400 Message-ID: <465F1CA6.5000301@tellurian.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:06:14 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> In-Reply-To: <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:06:16 -0000 Vinny Abello wrote: > Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: >> Vinny Abello wrote: >>> Oliver Fromme wrote: >>>> Vinny Abello wrote: >>>> > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing >>>> packet loss >>>> > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the >>>> > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. >>>> >>>> Have you enabled polling on the interface? >>>> >>>> I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 >>>> running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). >>>> The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Oliver >>> It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled >>> my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the >>> GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and >>> post my results to the list. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >> Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 -txcsum >> -rxcsum ). > > Thanks for the suggestion, but... > > That's actually one of the first things I tried before writing to the > list. No difference. > > I'm going to put an Intel Pro/100 card in shortly to see if the problem > goes away to be certain the issue is definitely with the integrated > Broadcom NICs. I've installed an Intel Pro/100 adapter in the Dell PowerEdge 2650. This is an Intel 82550 chipset. The packet loss problem is completely gone when using this NIC in the server, so it is definitely related to the bge driver and this chipset BCM5703 or something else in the server. I'm going to try and isolate which major release this problem appeared. Maybe this will help isolate the change that is causing this issue for me. -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 19:25:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3439716A400 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA18713C45B for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so130169anc for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bQ1pImbemEWR69uLozQNrBA4hNeIAwshtwC/ldJp+gL0oXxp4IfLpIU9w0kn7YwmA1Q3Rk3LWYc78GGDuWJzxljHC2ogvEi8+0tA2x0uS2sqBXUWoNlDGECxU+ITEtnK6UdJSP7EFvLwd+mLnIPWkmCo0Mw+7JhpYoOS9eWJfWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mxDipTnmpBbXGnQ6YbejzihinLyDogfzwFs1DOHJWsVLRcWWK1wHyUy3dMJGb6L2FAEBf+0yA7mGy6qHKdcI3dIPbV4Y/9aa7D/IiUJM2zZh4KHuv/HAhcVT20oGNnYyKmWxPyVGutM+6FenzwCOn9P3mPYVHS8VC374h10XScc= Received: by 10.101.69.4 with SMTP id w4mr576054ank.1180639511245; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705311225m73e5fdd6j49317912fd58ac36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:25:11 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Vinny Abello" In-Reply-To: <465F1CA6.5000301@tellurian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> <465F1CA6.5000301@tellurian.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:25:20 -0000 On 5/31/07, Vinny Abello wrote: > Vinny Abello wrote: > > Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > >> Vinny Abello wrote: > >>> Oliver Fromme wrote: > >>>> Vinny Abello wrote: > >>>> > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing > >>>> packet loss > >>>> > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers and the > >>>> > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. > >>>> > >>>> Have you enabled polling on the interface? > >>>> > >>>> I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 > >>>> running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). > >>>> The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> Oliver > >>> It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I compiled > >>> my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the > >>> GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and > >>> post my results to the list. > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >> Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 -txcsum > >> -rxcsum ). > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but... > > > > That's actually one of the first things I tried before writing to the > > list. No difference. > > > > I'm going to put an Intel Pro/100 card in shortly to see if the problem > > goes away to be certain the issue is definitely with the integrated > > Broadcom NICs. > > I've installed an Intel Pro/100 adapter in the Dell PowerEdge 2650. This > is an Intel 82550 chipset. The packet loss problem is completely gone > when using this NIC in the server, so it is definitely related to the > bge driver and this chipset BCM5703 or something else in the server. I'm > going to try and isolate which major release this problem appeared. > Maybe this will help isolate the change that is causing this issue for me. > > -- > > Vinny Abello > Network Engineer > vinny@tellurian.com > (973)940-6100 > PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A > > Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection > http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN > > "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" > -- Mark Twain I still suggest you csup to stable, there are changes made to the driver :) -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 19:28:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5860516A49C for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2151E13C44B for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A2AB80C; Thu, 31 May 2007 15:28:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200705311519.18942.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070530132241.GI2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <200705311233.51512.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200705311519.18942.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <35B2A5CB-FDDE-47E4-A73E-8D93D6D157C4@khera.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vivek Khera Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:28:34 -0400 To: Daniel O'Connor X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:28:36 -0000 On May 31, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Thanks so much, now I can have an automated install on a USB stick :) please, please, please share the recipes to make this. I would love to omit CD rom drives on my future systems as the only thing i ever use them for is install. also, can you run "fixit" mode from your USB stick, too? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 19:50:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6E516A400 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DE113C43E for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 19:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 647342506-1926380 for multiple; Thu, 31 May 2007 15:50:07 -0400 Message-ID: <465F26EF.3040700@tellurian.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:50:07 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> <465F1CA6.5000301@tellurian.com> <499c70c0705311225m73e5fdd6j49317912fd58ac36@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c70c0705311225m73e5fdd6j49317912fd58ac36@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:50:08 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > On 5/31/07, Vinny Abello wrote: >> Vinny Abello wrote: >> > Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: >> >> Vinny Abello wrote: >> >>> Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >>>> Vinny Abello wrote: >> >>>> > I've isolated a problem which appears to be a bug causing >> >>>> packet loss >> >>>> > with FreeBSD 6.0 and later on the Dell PowerEdge 2650 servers >> and the >> >>>> > integrated Broadcom BCM5703 NICs. >> >>>> >> >>>> Have you enabled polling on the interface? >> >>>> >> >>>> I experienced a similar problem on a HP Proliant DL360 >> >>>> running 6.2-stable (RELENG_6 of a few weeks ago). >> >>>> The problem disappeared upon "ifconfig bge0 polling". >> >>>> >> >>>> Best regards >> >>>> Oliver >> >>> It appears I do not have the DEVICE_POLLING option set when I >> compiled >> >>> my kernel on my one machine and on the second I am just using the >> >>> GENERIC kernel. I'll recompile with this option set and try again and >> >>> post my results to the list. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> >> >> Try disabling hardware assisted checksumming. ( ifconfig bge0 -txcsum >> >> -rxcsum ). >> > >> > Thanks for the suggestion, but... >> > >> > That's actually one of the first things I tried before writing to the >> > list. No difference. >> > >> > I'm going to put an Intel Pro/100 card in shortly to see if the problem >> > goes away to be certain the issue is definitely with the integrated >> > Broadcom NICs. >> >> I've installed an Intel Pro/100 adapter in the Dell PowerEdge 2650. This >> is an Intel 82550 chipset. The packet loss problem is completely gone >> when using this NIC in the server, so it is definitely related to the >> bge driver and this chipset BCM5703 or something else in the server. I'm >> going to try and isolate which major release this problem appeared. >> Maybe this will help isolate the change that is causing this issue for >> me. >> >> -- >> >> Vinny Abello >> Network Engineer >> vinny@tellurian.com >> (973)940-6100 >> PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A >> >> Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection >> http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN >> >> "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" >> -- Mark Twain > > I still suggest you csup to stable, there are changes made to the driver :) OK, I'll try that next instead. :) Thanks! -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 20:15:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B065016A421 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5653013C4C6 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so264639wra for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 13:15:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=K8fsHIKu4i5j9s41kCnXLQOF6izO9q1M6sjOS4c/AfP+mWcqMqdo6v3Xjt5KwecSv1AxiaERRmzqn2zmLYnZwvoWvuI2uQOa0EPQj07Nr/FqbIhAUPd9Q80L1/P0JOel+c7n0bVMhLpRLybLpPiDv0Zrez9/WKVNADz/JqAG0GQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=D48+HwPwly6/Rx+sLEk/HaI4Yg9BVu4yNpIQ+GMyn3sIMqPNmhUiGMNV8oW746SWxtwCB8npFvjUJpf6cOhzvhYlhUNt0324JIEbFJwthl+Pug854MLXurIwAPUuostxii0t3mOiBrOsHx5nZAkCQbSk6Md5WXuq1Ps+zAHIbSI= Received: by 10.82.176.3 with SMTP id y3mr449025bue.1180642536314; Thu, 31 May 2007 13:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [85.180.174.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w5sm5123693mue.2007.05.31.13.15.35; Thu, 31 May 2007 13:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4VK91hO016217; Thu, 31 May 2007 22:09:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4VK90TB016216; Thu, 31 May 2007 22:09:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:09:00 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20070531200900.GB14269@roadrunner.q.local> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Jeremy , stable@freebsd.org References: <20070528092905.GB1551@roadrunner.q.local> <20070528100752.GA1750@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070528100752.GA1750@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change in memory tracking in recent 6-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:15:39 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2007-May-28 11:29:05 +0200, Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: > >I'm using symon to monitor memory usage among several FreeBSD machines. > >After updating to a recent 6-STABLE, the amount of memory no longer adds > >up to the total physical memory. The "inactive" counter is way too > >small. > > As well as "active", "inactive" and "free", there is "cache", "wired" > and "buffers". > > Check the following sysctls: > vfs.bufspace (bytes) > vm.stats.vm.v_active_count (pages) > vm.stats.vm.v_inactive_count (pages) > vm.stats.vm.v_wire_count (pages) > vm.stats.vm.v_cache_count (pages) > vm.stats.vm.v_free_count (pages) Hi Peter, Ok, adding up vm.stats gives me the total physical RAM (roughly). One question would be, where is the buffer cache counted towards? Or is it spread all over the place? Back to symon, it uses the following code to grab it's values. This has worked fine till some months ago. Now it is missing several MBytes. How should I fix the code? static int me_vm_mib[] = {CTL_VM, VM_TOTAL}; ... if (sysctl(me_vm_mib, 2, &me_vmtotal, &me_vmsize, NULL, 0) < 0) { warning("%s:%d: sysctl failed", __FILE__, __LINE__); bzero(&me_vmtotal, sizeof(me_vmtotal)); } /* convert memory stats to Kbytes */ me_stats[0] = pagetob(me_vmtotal.t_arm); me_stats[1] = pagetob(me_vmtotal.t_rm); me_stats[2] = pagetob(me_vmtotal.t_free); Why are these values not adding up to 256MB in my case? Ulrich Spoerlein -- "The trouble with the dictionary is you have to know how the word is spelled before you can look it up to see how it is spelled." -- Will Cuppy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 21:28:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA316A421; Thu, 31 May 2007 21:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E658A13C457; Thu, 31 May 2007 21:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.05) with ESMTP id l4VLSQ05005978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l4VLSQbr021751; Thu, 31 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 14:28:25 PDT Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.5.31.140735 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: usb@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panicking in 6.2 and 7-CURRENT -- interrupt issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:28:27 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2007 youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > Hello, > I'm trying to install 7-CURRENT on my desktop, locally instead of on a > virtual machine, and I'm running into an issue where the kernel almost always > panics on boot with my motherboard (ASUS P5N-SLI E), due to some sort of > interrupt assignment / probing issues. > > Observations: > 1. 7-CURRENT (built) never properly detects the interrupts on the system. > 2. 7-CURRENT (May ISO snapshot) doesn't properly detect my USB keyboard, > but boots and runs sysinstall. > 3. 6.2 RELEASE panics if I don't boot FreeBSD up into "safe mode", due to > an issue with the ohci driver (I think the error message had something to deal > with device adding / enumeration and not being able to find a memory / > interrupt address). > > First off, if I could get some of the command line arguments to pass to > the kernel to emulate safe-mode, that would be much appreciated. Second off, if > anybody has any ideas on how to debug this issue, I'll go off and try to > determine what the cause is. If it's anything like it was before (clean out > /usr/obj, rebuild), I'll be ok. Otherwise, I'll have to purchase more parts and > build another dedicated FreeBSD system :(.. > > Thanks, > -Garrett Sorry for cross-posting so much, but this information is relevant to all of the mailing lists included. Ok I "solved" my problem, to a certain extent. Basically the ASUS P5N-E SLI motherboard (nVidia chipset) isn't bootable with FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE without going into SAFE MODE (panics after ohci_add_done looking for a non-existent memory address, if the USB controller is enabled in the BIOS with "Legacy Mode", i.e. USB Keyboard compatible), and isn't compatible with FreeBSD 7 at all (kernel can't map IRQs properly on up-to-date CURRENT and panics in kernel mode during boot). Strangely enough the 7-CURRENT snapshot ISOs work, but then again it doesn't setup the OHCI and USB keyboard stuff properly, and I can't get any sort of input from my keyboard, obviously. The ASUS P5B-DLX motherboard (Intel chipset) is compatible with FreeBSD 6.2 and 7 though, without any hacks. Maybe someone should update some documentation on the release notes page for supported hardware? Thanks, -Garrett PS Please CC me in any communication as I'm not subscribed to doc@, stable@, or usb@. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 00:07:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EE116A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew.herzog@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70D813C468 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew.herzog@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 14so303315nzn for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=faL7R9okHmi0hiHPUxsb8pMr5Frf9YYtA3z5qJ8yKSN/qwqRQgydiEEMY+QsVlRiHmqbvaARj1e2X3ON2uzsSN+Pxp+b2o7Wex0U4TEi59RzDxYWdlFntCfM34l1gGDnZAwjcNRR13pMFaR5ThMUOyYLPMMNaOUnDNT7axMKMZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fqlh1Vto4r5Mu3xd7V82so7dw41Dw7Qqv1hyjBtjLLtPS2dp9T72994SJDXSvFFYvnzbyMaoGuIJg6kEuFlnXuK/pSwzackVPDYoJuIII1zP2OeMhPH3+R7xkiqY5RRfEBLMdOLrbVJTGhwYUHlu7Zi9zY+G+UwQmAgAbPNVpUw= Received: by 10.114.154.1 with SMTP id b1mr1185249wae.1180654860595; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.136.3 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2007 16:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 23:41:00 +0000 From: "Matthew Herzog" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mounting Solaris 10 NFS share X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:07:32 -0000 Hey all. I'm trying to mount a Solaris 10 NFS share from my FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE machine and I'm having some permissions problems. Here's my /etc/dfs/dfstab file on Solaris 10. share -F nfs -o rw=spark -d "generic" /export/home/mush and the line in /etc/fstab on FreeBSD: 192.168.0.26:/export/home/mush /mnt/share nfs 0 0 I am able to mount the share but unable to access it on the FreeBSD machine. In fact I can't even cd into /mnt/share as root on FreeBSD. Changinf the dir's permissions to 0777 on Solaris does "fix" the problem but . . . it's not a solution. Thanks for any help. -- Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 00:12:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4A516A468 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from mail1.tellurian.net (mail1.tellurian.net [216.182.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0B13C448 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinny@tellurian.com) Received: from [216.182.1.34] (cactus.tellurian.net [216.182.1.34]) by mail1.tellurian.net ([216.182.1.23] Tellurian Networks Mail Server version v3.8i3-3) with ESMTP id 647463754-1926380 for multiple; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:12:06 -0400 Message-ID: <465F6457.4010907@tellurian.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:12:07 -0400 From: Vinny Abello Organization: Tellurian Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri References: <200705300934.l4U9Y7eJ022617@lurza.secnetix.de> <465DB6C5.30407@tellurian.com> <465EA47B.7050400@gmail.com> <465EF9AF.3000108@tellurian.com> <465F1CA6.5000301@tellurian.com> <499c70c0705311225m73e5fdd6j49317912fd58ac36@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <499c70c0705311225m73e5fdd6j49317912fd58ac36@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: vinny@tellurian.com X-Ultimate-Internet-Connection: Tellurian Networks Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet Loss w/bge & BCM5703 on Dell PE2650 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:12:08 -0000 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: >> I've installed an Intel Pro/100 adapter in the Dell PowerEdge 2650. This >> is an Intel 82550 chipset. The packet loss problem is completely gone >> when using this NIC in the server, so it is definitely related to the >> bge driver and this chipset BCM5703 or something else in the server. I'm >> going to try and isolate which major release this problem appeared. >> Maybe this will help isolate the change that is causing this issue for >> me. > > I still suggest you csup to stable, there are changes made to the driver :) OK, just did a cvsup to the latest RELENG_6 from today, recompiled and still have the same problem with the newer bge code, so that didn't help. :( Again, the fxp card works ok. It seems there is no easy fix for this at the moment so I may end up just sticking fxp cards in these model servers and disabling the integrated bge cards. :-/ -- Vinny Abello Network Engineer vinny@tellurian.com (973)940-6100 PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0 E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear" -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 00:13:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9657A16A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8089913C44B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10F21A3C1A; Thu, 31 May 2007 17:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [192.168.1.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39D9511A7; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BC3A4C16A; Thu, 31 May 2007 20:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:13:07 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matthew Herzog Message-ID: <20070601001307.GA38654@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting Solaris 10 NFS share X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:13:08 -0000 On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:41:00PM +0000, Matthew Herzog wrote: > Hey all. > > I'm trying to mount a Solaris 10 NFS share from my FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE > machine and I'm having some permissions problems. > > Here's my /etc/dfs/dfstab file on Solaris 10. > > share -F nfs -o rw=spark -d "generic" /export/home/mush > > and the line in /etc/fstab on FreeBSD: > > 192.168.0.26:/export/home/mush /mnt/share nfs 0 0 > > I am able to mount the share but unable to access it on the FreeBSD > machine. In fact I can't even cd into /mnt/share as root on FreeBSD. > Changinf the dir's permissions to 0777 on Solaris does "fix" the > problem but . . . it's not a solution. Isn't this usually because of a mismatch with credentials (uid/gid) between server and client? i.e. why do you think this is a FreeBSD NFS client issue? Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 05:22:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B11D16A473 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 05:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EC413C48A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 05:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp80-24.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.80.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l515MV4O093014 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:52:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Vivek Khera Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:52:02 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <200705311519.18942.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <35B2A5CB-FDDE-47E4-A73E-8D93D6D157C4@khera.org> In-Reply-To: <35B2A5CB-FDDE-47E4-A73E-8D93D6D157C4@khera.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4279386.EVcLQ1POcY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200706011452.17035.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Unable to install FreeBSD from external USB cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 05:22:38 -0000 --nextPart4279386.EVcLQ1POcY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 01 June 2007 04:58, Vivek Khera wrote: > On May 31, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Thanks so much, now I can have an automated install on a USB stick > > :) > > please, please, please share the recipes to make this. I would love > to omit CD rom drives on my future systems as the only thing i ever > use them for is install. > > also, can you run "fixit" mode from your USB stick, too? I haven't actually done it yet, however I was thinking of making a basic=20 =46reeSBIE disk but split it into a UFS and a DOS partition. I'd put the=20 dist files on the FAT partition as well as a tar ball I splat over the=20 disk after install (that contains all the packages etc.. it is much=20 faster than pkg_add which is what I used to use, it is also more easily=20 tweaked). The FAT partition would also have an install.cfg which sysinstall could=20 read (I have sysinstall patches for this). The reason for using FAT to store the dist files etc is that it would=20 allow people to easily tweak the config and the like (useful in our=20 situation probably less so for you) One thing I'm not sure about is how to run sysinstall after boot. A=20 normal install CD uses it as init but I don't think that will work very=20 well here since FreeSBIE works differently. The other approach would be to just splat an install CD onto a flash=20 disk, eg.. fdisk -BI /dev/da0 bsdlabel -w -B /dev/da0s1 newfs -b 4096 -f 512 -i 8192 -O1 -U /dev/da0s1 mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt cd /mnt tar zxf /dev/acd0 umount /mnt =2E.. actually that won't work because sysinstall doesn't know how to=20 mount UFS partitions to read dist files :( I did look at adding that when I did the patch for FAT partitions but=20 it's more complex (I wasn't sure of the canonical way to find them..=20 Easiest would be to look in /dev I guess) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart4279386.EVcLQ1POcY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGX60I5ZPcIHs/zowRApp5AJ9EUqIxMEmeLd3lFVUwddRV2leEuQCdGy/O 7eby0sO7Os1dLVFmPy53Q4k= =xEkH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4279386.EVcLQ1POcY-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 07:47:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13AE16A46E for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E1B13C465 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 07:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 14so380114nzn for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hyJnqn5vqRlbJ21CBKkuYNaeIliP0j0t9oslWJe2Rj4NsTDbcwpHDrU9hcB8O8YhjNLlVGX8MRBjPZerKNFgsBG2QQks767YUZkPN8hd44dgtLCi0yc6+NZITs3+9gltHLZ6gYdXa3pKSrFg1LkKuG/vr3jdRVetdKt6hb5zM2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uhl4F1lmpgRR8ivt9GlpYSxCw6cJfb2l5K4h8Zlb2DtjPUpJkwUmSPg+w36kRpGFvpxGkj5QzWplXCy/Gd/jTOygd/4kU69E8pCBH8RmT2ZF0jc5XS+4wDAbyt6FkR6Bc1CvFdlegUXF6xSZiwvy2mKXpOguK+TMuvalz9Az8fM= Received: by 10.115.33.1 with SMTP id l1mr1569201waj.1180684036501; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:47:16 +0200 From: "Claus Guttesen" To: "Matthew Herzog" In-Reply-To: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting Solaris 10 NFS share X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 07:47:18 -0000 > I'm trying to mount a Solaris 10 NFS share from my FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE > machine and I'm having some permissions problems. > > Here's my /etc/dfs/dfstab file on Solaris 10. > > share -F nfs -o rw=spark -d "generic" /export/home/mush > > and the line in /etc/fstab on FreeBSD: > > 192.168.0.26:/export/home/mush /mnt/share nfs 0 0 > > I am able to mount the share but unable to access it on the FreeBSD > machine. In fact I can't even cd into /mnt/share as root on FreeBSD. > Changinf the dir's permissions to 0777 on Solaris does "fix" the > problem but . . . it's not a solution. As mentioned earlier it is probably a mismatch between uid/gid. And by default root is *not* allowed access to nfs-shares unless you specify map-root=root (freebsd-syntax) on your nfs-server, albeit this is *not* recommended as well to grant root access to nfs. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 09:52:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2235816A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilbury@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF58D13C4AD for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilbury@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 14so404067nzn for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OJyPrhixxEtzh4qYDPiT3Tj6ARKDifJ98f/CSHq1Iun5MDLuM/XGWHb/5HZ2+OYkbfPAaYShmH3wDCqKBnacvis9N2yjxri7sK/SA7LAbaNJAQYx54OWrMJnGnRArcQjI923OCF/bza5dzCfu90z2xL/u/ZPiKXNSpGsNEF2/z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YrUzYwFCVNJZuIoCysds60PBqXWrhbttNrcZ5rsUfPd3SIPh8HoGNLG/s91dKkE43JnR3JmfJV8LjmduF4xpqif7SVIlMl1g3vNJZxFqjvq5D0vAyX5wI4hZvzOOzn7res4blAtAK3eGsZljPwyUBDTi0CG6gx5Z+JOVam2REe0= Received: by 10.143.155.1 with SMTP id h1mr78579wfo.1180691538813; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.156.5 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:52:18 +0200 From: "Juraj Lutter" To: "Claus Guttesen" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7cf39bb60705311641y29cec38bxec5e1d2794072856@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Matthew Herzog Subject: Re: mounting Solaris 10 NFS share X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:52:20 -0000 On 6/1/07, Claus Guttesen wrote: > As mentioned earlier it is probably a mismatch between uid/gid. And by > default root is *not* allowed access to nfs-shares unless you specify > map-root=root (freebsd-syntax) on your nfs-server, albeit this is > *not* recommended as well to grant root access to nfs. Try to use NFSv3 on Solaris side. otis -- Sincerely yours, Juraj Lutter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 10:19:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E780316A421 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: from mail.yirdis.nl (82-148-208-109.fiber.unet.nl [82.148.208.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7332C13C448 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: from server.yirdis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.yirdis.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l519emUf072355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:40:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: (from www@localhost) by server.yirdis.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l519elix072354 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:40:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: server.yirdis.net: www set sender to r.gruyters@yirdis.nl using -f Received: from hp-xw4300-02.yirdis.nl (hp-xw4300-02.yirdis.nl [10.8.0.29]) by server.yirdis.nl (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:40:47 +0200 Message-ID: <20070601114047.z6qgi686os4ogw4o@server.yirdis.nl> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:40:47 +0200 From: Robin Gruyters To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_5dnnl5jm2og8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) / FreeBSD-5.4 X-Virus-Scanned: OK X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unrecognized archive format with RELENG_6_2 and RELENG_6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:19:49 -0000 This message is in MIME format. --=_5dnnl5jm2og8 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_5ciff4ar7l8o"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_5ciff4ar7l8o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ya, Yesterday I have upgraded one of servers to RELENG_6_2 and no problems so fa= r. This morning I recieved an email from one of our system manager and =20 told me that the backup has failed with the following message: tar: Unrecognized archive format: Inappropriate file type or format This happends when the following command is used: # tar -tf /dev/sa0 It will show you the first 10 files and then exits. After searching the MARC list, I found the following post: http://marc.info/?l=3Dfreebsd-questions&m=3D117442965732289 Apparently nobody has (yet) replied to it. After reading a few posts =20 about similar problems http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D111236 I'd updated the libarchive (lib/libarchive) and tar (usr.bin/tar) in =20 the source tree to RELENG_6 and recompiled both, but still encounter =20 same problem. Anybody any idea how to fix this? Kind regards, Robin Gruyters Network and Security Engineer Yirdis B.V. I: http://yirdis.com P: +31 (0)36 5300394 F: +31 (0)36 5489119 --=_5ciff4ar7l8o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGX+mfLh3hlgHmc7MRAt10AKDD6gQJNq8gj49vxmssRUrddifSHgCg5zyi Ly7gvwhVyYMt48Yfoxgb7TA= =axfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_5ciff4ar7l8o-- --=_5dnnl5jm2og8-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:05:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2D416A400 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5CA13C4B0 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp80-24.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.80.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l51E59To056311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:35:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:34:24 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070601114047.z6qgi686os4ogw4o@server.yirdis.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070601114047.z6qgi686os4ogw4o@server.yirdis.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5964742.bYh4T2tDeU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200706012334.33673.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Robin Gruyters Subject: Re: Unrecognized archive format with RELENG_6_2 and RELENG_6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:05:40 -0000 --nextPart5964742.bYh4T2tDeU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 01 June 2007 19:10, Robin Gruyters wrote: > This happends when the following command is used: > > # tar -tf /dev/sa0 > > It will show you the first 10 files and then exits. > After searching the MARC list, I found the following post: What happens if you try tar -b 128 -tf /dev/sa0 What did you upgrade from? Some gnutar using system I guess? (5.x or=20 4.x?) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart5964742.bYh4T2tDeU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGYCdx5ZPcIHs/zowRAoORAKCbjLeeN8VMCEZKcby6CZJeVdFtFQCfTabN lJA2PMwEwnTz8SO//J7agoA= =uMcS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5964742.bYh4T2tDeU-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 14:09:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFFD16A47D for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: from mail.yirdis.nl (82-148-208-109.fiber.unet.nl [82.148.208.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC8513C48A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: from server.yirdis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.yirdis.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l51E9mK0098729 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:09:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) Received: (from www@localhost) by server.yirdis.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l51E9mQA098728; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:09:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from r.gruyters@yirdis.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: server.yirdis.net: www set sender to r.gruyters@yirdis.nl using -f Received: from hp-xw4300-02.yirdis.nl (hp-xw4300-02.yirdis.nl [10.8.0.29]) by server.yirdis.nl (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:09:48 +0200 Message-ID: <20070601160948.wcee59gu04okswo4@server.yirdis.nl> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:09:48 +0200 From: Robin Gruyters To: "Daniel O'Connor" References: <20070601114047.z6qgi686os4ogw4o@server.yirdis.nl> <200706012334.33673.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200706012334.33673.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_itxn5aetlm0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) / FreeBSD-5.4 X-Virus-Scanned: OK Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unrecognized archive format with RELENG_6_2 and RELENG_6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:09:50 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_itxn5aetlm0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What happens if you try > tar -b 128 -tf /dev/sa0 > Same problem. > What did you upgrade from? Some gnutar using system I guess? (5.x or > 4.x?) > I'd upgraded from FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 Kind regards, Robin Gruyters Network and Security Engineer Yirdis B.V. I: http://yirdis.com P: +31 (0)36 5300394 F: +31 (0)36 5489119 Quoting Daniel O'Connor : > On Friday 01 June 2007 19:10, Robin Gruyters wrote: >> This happends when the following command is used: >> >> # tar -tf /dev/sa0 >> >> It will show you the first 10 files and then exits. >> After searching the MARC list, I found the following post: > > What happens if you try > tar -b 128 -tf /dev/sa0 > > What did you upgrade from? Some gnutar using system I guess? (5.x or > 4.x?) > > -- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C > --=_itxn5aetlm0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGYCisLh3hlgHmc7MRAvxmAKDCFzSC0lRz2nAuKDUtX0buFdjw/gCgxQ7z 3Q3B47h0pAMABAu3r/8JmzE= =F9B8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_itxn5aetlm0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 23:22:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FDB16A41F for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1958613C455 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp66-168.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.66.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l51NMZSd039364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:52:39 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Robin Gruyters Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:52:12 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070601114047.z6qgi686os4ogw4o@server.yirdis.nl> <200706012334.33673.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070601160948.wcee59gu04okswo4@server.yirdis.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070601160948.wcee59gu04okswo4@server.yirdis.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1253687.YmiRGupyDa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200706020852.21208.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unrecognized archive format with RELENG_6_2 and RELENG_6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:22:42 -0000 --nextPart1253687.YmiRGupyDa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 01 June 2007 23:39, Robin Gruyters wrote: > > What happens if you try > > tar -b 128 -tf /dev/sa0 > > Same problem. > > > What did you upgrade from? Some gnutar using system I guess? (5.x > > or 4.x?) > > I'd upgraded from FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 OK. Can you read the archive as a normal file from the tape? eg dd=20 if=3D/dev/sa0 of=3D/tmp/foo If so does it work? Are you getting errors reading from the drive, or=20 just the tar file is broken? I don't really have any other suggestions though sorry. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1253687.YmiRGupyDa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGYKot5ZPcIHs/zowRAsdSAJ9OiIPLz0K6PXKxxFEASWu7x/NE2ACfS+yc nYgmraLVwamL5dtmjk/Qlw0= =Gxe0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1253687.YmiRGupyDa-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 08:12:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266B916A46E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A18D13C46E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so419181uge for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o18FNWJ2b3F/1WgTZL5IrC0yvUAcmiDm8A/xUJ5gt2m7Bdy7pHBUpo9M7AmTJxZN+mY4CgpX6bBUSIKrnYfm1BtC7CX4i7m4+16+hgm61nK40MOllezJMCuhfqCte17MtvtTutkEP2HFuFSqYxNJk93GdnFbcT3dRnGE5p5YMFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GlaLN5zC7Cg1FaqgI4cc4SLpQ/ez6e9iI89Sgn0GuUc1u7NzObEI9sKQXa8bMMG0RyY12ekZZd+VCLtjfH12Sjs8po96dMF0K2coHB3WH6J1EMG6AsNpK7YkxOSvyvksLgBdiQVGofosUzMt/ktDB+tktsR8BVHxbNvAQHypbj8= Received: by 10.67.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr1373606ugl.1180770326196; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:45:26 +0100 From: Chris To: "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> Cc: Volker , Peter Jeremy , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 08:12:57 -0000 On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also > > impact this. > > At BSDCan, Ken Smith mentioned that 7.0 is due to be branched in July and > released in Aug/Sep, with 6.3 quickly following (perhaps even overlapping > so as to reuse the same ports freeze). > > The ports tree is not even close to stable enough to release right now. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the ports tree be supported on both? Due to the fact the ports tree is only supported on the latest freebsd release I propose longer release cycles for example not releasing 6.3 until 6.2 is almost EOL rather then having 2 releases overlap each other because the current situation is there is a release that is supported by the security team but not by the ports tree so it is a half supported release, I also prefer slower major release cycles as well but I keep been told no on that one :) eg. it would be nice if 7.0 was delayed a month or more to allow the full pf openbsd synch up rather then leaving it because lack of time before 7.0 release. Chris Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 12:29:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B92B16A400 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED53D13C447 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 10049 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2007 12:02:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.162.155]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jun 2007 12:02:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:02:44 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Chris Message-ID: <20070602140244.0cf05a93@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_9jet3iY/g68QQeTv25WTXQC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:29:37 -0000 --Sig_9jet3iY/g68QQeTv25WTXQC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris wrote: > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it wi= ll > > > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will al= so > > > impact this. > > > > At BSDCan, Ken Smith mentioned that 7.0 is due to be branched in July a= nd > > released in Aug/Sep, with 6.3 quickly following (perhaps even overlappi= ng > > so as to reuse the same ports freeze). > > > > The ports tree is not even close to stable enough to release right now. > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the > ports tree be supported on both? I believe you misunderstood something. Where do you think Kris said that? Fabian --Sig_9jet3iY/g68QQeTv25WTXQC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGYVxkBYqIVf93VJ0RAmarAKCpzO+bn1kL2ENE+zdm/rV48K95/gCeOzLn T0wazw/xJjFRu3SQtpbub4M= =GPg1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_9jet3iY/g68QQeTv25WTXQC-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 13:21:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FDB16A46B for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D518613C489 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from [10.9.204.128] (dsl093-061-215.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.215]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB44C2; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:03:29 -0400 To: Chris , stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:21:38 -0000 On Jun 2, 2007, at 3:45 , Chris wrote: > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the > ports tree be supported on both? I think you're confused by terminology. As I understand it, the ports tree is supported on -CURRENT and the latest -STABLE series: that is, currently on 6.x and 7.x (and possibly 5.x still since RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 were both being released for a while), but not RELENG_4 or earlier. -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 13:21:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD4316A50E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from muxas@mail.ru) Received: from mx4.mail.ru (fallback.mail.ru [194.67.57.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC0F13C4AD for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from muxas@mail.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.64]) by mx4.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id BBEFD378E54 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:50:47 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [80.243.71.203] (port=37628 helo=devel.muxas.net) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1HuT4A-0008vz-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:50:46 +0400 Message-ID: <4662016A.8070100@mail.ru> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:46:50 +0000 From: Maxim Vetrov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070506 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Sysinstall replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:21:42 -0000 Hi! Are there any plans to replace sysinstall? AFAIK there is the BSDInstaller flying :-) around, is it considered as a valid option? Thanks, Muxas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 14:51:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1616A400 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7700313C458 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id F0AEDB04; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:51:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:51:43 -0500 To: Chris Message-ID: <20070602145143.GA23234@soaustin.net> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Volker , Mark Linimon , stable@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:51:44 -0000 On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:45:26AM +0100, Chris wrote: > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the > ports tree be supported on both? Yes. As for changing the release schedules, the ports team can only advise the src team. If you want completely decoupled releases, please find about 6 people who will agree to work on nothing but doing the continuing engineering to keep a branched ports tree working, and let me know. (This estimate is from the pkgsrc guys.) "Support", btw, has an overloaded meaning here. The meaning that kris is using is "create packages and make sure everthing works". The meaning that you are using is probably "ports will work on that branch". The only time we've forcibly shown a branch the door was 4.11 recently, and that was because the support burden had become too high. If maintainers and committers want to keep their ports working on 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 5.4, 5.5, and -current, then they're welcome to do so. Any release older than that and IMHO they're wasting their time (in particular, there is too much src drift and instability pre-5.4.). Having said that, early values of 7000xx probably have too many src changes to expect much from them, either -- but then again, that's what they're there for. mcl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 16:33:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC7E16A421 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785D413C455 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C781A4D93; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [192.168.1.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C439B5129D; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B0AB1C1D6; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:33:57 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Fabian Keil Message-ID: <20070602163357.GA3471@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> <20070602140244.0cf05a93@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070602140244.0cf05a93@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chris , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:33:58 -0000 On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 02:02:44PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: > Chris wrote: > > > On 29/05/07, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > > Agreed. 6.3-RELEASE would nominally be due around July but the lack > > > > of any schedule on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ suggests that it will > > > > be later than that. The plans to start the 7.0-RELEASE cycle will also > > > > impact this. > > > > > > At BSDCan, Ken Smith mentioned that 7.0 is due to be branched in July and > > > released in Aug/Sep, with 6.3 quickly following (perhaps even overlapping > > > so as to reuse the same ports freeze). > > > > > > The ports tree is not even close to stable enough to release right now. > > > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the > > ports tree be supported on both? > > I believe you misunderstood something. Where do you think Kris said that? Yep, looks like he's confused again. I hope it's not a terminal condition. 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From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 21:08:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805CB16A400 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from t.gf@freenet.de) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B8513C45E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from t.gf@freenet.de) Received: from [194.97.55.190] (helo=mx6.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1HuaMh-0007ln-CA for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:38:23 +0200 Received: from ppp-88-217-20-1.dynamic.mnet-online.de ([88.217.20.1]:19257 helo=chaos) by mx6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID t.gf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1HuaMh-00064e-6g for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:38:23 +0200 From: Thomas Flaig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 22:38:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> In-Reply-To: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706022238.23245.t.gf@freenet.de> Subject: Re: local/rc.d/* executed twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: t.gf@freenet.de List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:08:56 -0000 Hello, Am Samstag, 2. Juni 2007 schrieb Stefan Hauser: > after upgrading 3 machines, i noticed that /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* > scipts get exectued twice. > does anyone have a fix for it ? Add local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" to your /etc/rc.conf. After the upgrade to x.org-7.2 /usr/X11R6 is a symlink to /usr/local. The default-value of local_startup is set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" Therefore all scripts will be executed twice if you don't change the defaults. Maybe an addition to the hint in /usr/ports/UPDATING would be good. HTH thomas -- If you are not for yourself, who will be for you? If you are for yourself, then what are you? If not now, when? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 21:20:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5A016A46E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@c0mplx.org) Received: from home.c0mplx.org (home.c0mplx.org [213.178.180.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D0213C48C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@c0mplx.org) Received: from pi by home.c0mplx.org with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hua72-000EVK-MD; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:22:12 +0200 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 22:22:12 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Stefan Hauser Message-ID: <20070602202212.GA13981@home.c0mplx.org> References: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: local/rc.d/* executed twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:20:56 -0000 Hi! > after upgrading 3 machines, i noticed that /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* scipts get > exectued twice. > does anyone have a fix for it ? The reason is: /etc/defaults/rc.conf contains local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" # startup script dirs. To fix it, add a line to /etc/rc.conf: local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" This overrides the default value and will solve the problem. -- pi@c0mplx.org +49 171 3101372 13 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 21:55:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D237E16A41F for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta7.adelphia.net (mta7.adelphia.net [68.168.78.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AAF13C457 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.126.17.68]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20070602212515.NFDH13315.mta11.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:25:15 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9067B6B4; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:25:56 -0400 From: Parv To: Stefan Hauser Message-ID: <20070602212556.GB2169@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Hauser , stable@freebsd.org References: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: local/rc.d/* executed twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:55:31 -0000 in message <200706021940.l52JetK8064362@multi.usr.ch>, wrote Stefan Hauser thusly... > > after upgrading 3 machines, i noticed that /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* > scipts get exectued twice. does anyone have a fix for it ? This had been discussed/mentioned on ports@ mailing list, and possibly on questions@ too; search for Doug Barton's messages during the last month. In short term, set local_startup & possibly local_periodic to the actual directories ... http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/msg/2604cd508c3ca533 You see $local_startup currently, at least on 6-STABLE, is set to /usr/{X11R6,local}. And after the X11 Windows System update to xorg 7.x, /usr/X11R6 would be a symbolic link to /usr/local (if you had followed the official|supported directions), which leads to double runs of /usr/local/etc/rc.d. See ... http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/msg/dd286acc00ef71d4 The proper, and long term, solution is to fix /etc/rc.subr, for local start ups, so that symbolic links do not cause multiple runs of the same script. A initial patch had been submitted to rc@ list by yours truly based on initial work by Doug ... http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/msg/653b2a0f3cfdb76f http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.ports/msg/1d0f640cc8bb6433 http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.rc/browse_thread/thread/cd21685e1b8c35cd/ ... for some reason the patch had been stripped in message to @rc, which I had initially sent to ports@. Note that above patch does not deal with periodic scripts running twice (noticed wrt PostgreSQL port). - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 23:37:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500C316A400 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken73.chen@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEC313C458 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken73.chen@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m33so1266927wag for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qXUC6NRAQ71VoBsaPwR8x1pznL7XnUZ1fH2HOkc1Pfl28hHZuwD1uYVorIxofJfWuTFaFIMwT7S0u2LtM77v7tnmRY/dFPOvlOxzpP7s8IV+N0VYjch578j1WcdQQnzBoFLnxig7+2eLD7Exy1NvxCHt+Dgfdsggvrs6+dtw26s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dGM6WbQzfJqkvcPFpTkvQhIAds3k4BeXghsDg1fNquJ3g4kNwMIGJU+NYODBG8a4EdXLrnq72x/Mr2+IfrK2vXxXl4tPIxJvPulY0Q1Kq/joAf+Yy+FAfunwmMfOXSDla8TDUOhuU4q7RBYam6rqXnqfxHbkIjQmKVqp2F4CAlg= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr3230500waf.1180827461554; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.15.8 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:37:41 +0800 From: "Ken Chen" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: why FreeBSD swap they? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:37:42 -0000 I have some web servers to do serve by DNS load-sharing. But one of the machine always swaped the PHP processes after days, others don't. There PHPs are running under fastcgi mode. web4# uname -a FreeBSD web4.top1069.com 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 19 09:26:59 CST 2007 root@web4.xxxx.com:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/WEB4 i386 web4# ps -ax | grep -i php | awk '{print $3}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n 1 S+ 2 Is 2 S 3 IW< 13 S< 15 IW