From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 04:20:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26091065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911568FC1D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU4K1VZ014587 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU4K104014586; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200811300420.mAU4K104014586@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Eitan Adler Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1552D1065677 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C958FC20 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU4IuUu057123 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:56 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU4IuIf057122; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:56 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200811300418.mAU4IuIf057122@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:56 GMT From: Eitan Adler To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/129285: [patch] df man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:20:01 -0000 >Number: 129285 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] df man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 30 04:20:01 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eitan Adler >Release: -CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: df was updated in r185200 to include a -T option. This is yet undocumented. >How-To-Repeat: man df >Fix: --- df.1.old 2008-11-29 23:16:18.000000000 -0500 +++ df.1 2008-11-29 23:15:49.000000000 -0500 @@ -140,6 +140,8 @@ .Xr lsvfs 1 command can be used to find out the types of file systems that are available on the system. +.It Fl T +File system type will be included in output. .El .Sh ENVIRONMENT .Bl -tag -width BLOCKSIZE >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 04:50:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C059106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFBB8FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU4o6PB038102 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU4o6dQ038101; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 GMT Message-Id: <200811300450.mAU4o6dQ038101@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Eitan Adler Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129285: [patch] df man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eitan Adler List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:50:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/129285; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Eitan Adler To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129285: [patch] df man page Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:22:27 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Updated patch: I forgot the line at the top - --- df.1.old 2008-11-29 23:16:18.000000000 -0500 +++ df.1 2008-11-29 23:19:12.000000000 -0500 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ .Nd display free disk space .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm - -.Op Fl b | g | H | h | k | m | P +.Op Fl b | g | H | h | k | m | P | T .Op Fl aciln .Op Fl t Ar type .Op Ar file | filesystem ... @@ -140,6 +140,8 @@ .Xr lsvfs 1 command can be used to find out the types of file systems that are available on the system. +.It Fl T +File system type will be included in output. .El .Sh ENVIRONMENT .Bl -tag -width BLOCKSIZE - -- Eitan Adler GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkyFQMACgkQtl8kq+nCzNEQqQCeKisQS8+CaomclqN7sHvH4UmS h5gAni0JK8Aimqwjdk+6jA3nT9QQjfcZ =xKtx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 07:50:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74466106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D4E8FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU7o6JS009240 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU7o6Mb009239; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 GMT Message-Id: <200811300750.mAU7o6Mb009239@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Marc Fonvieille Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marc Fonvieille List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:50:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Fonvieille To: Yuri Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:46:34 +0100 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:04:14PM +0000, Yuri wrote: > > >Number: 129281 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: medium > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 29 21:10:08 UTC 2008 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Yuri > >Release: 7.1-PRERELEASE > >Organization: > >Environment: > >Description: > In the Handbook section "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" it's recommended to treat SCSI and ATAPI drives differently. For ATAPI drives the use of dd/burncd combination is recommended. > > In reality burncd doesn't work on all drives -- there is a long standing bug: > bin/118207: burncd(8) gives I/O error writing CD on Pioneer DVDR-112D/1.21 > And 'cdrecord' command that I tried instead expects different > endianness than the one produced by 'dd'. > > Also 'dd' command doesn't always work on audio devices, here is the > excerpt from the conversation with Joerg Schilling > where he expressed these > arguments: > > > Here is a list of cons for dd even on FreeBSD: > > - dd may not work with all drives > > - Do you know what byteorder you get from a MMC CD-ROM drive > on FreeBSD/Sparc? You would need network byteorder on Sparc > but the MMC CD-ROM drive delivers intel byteorder due to a > bug in the MMC standard > > cdrecord always asumes network byte order for RAW audio data, > this is reasonable > > - Why would you deal with raw audio data at all if there are > audio file formats that include a notation for byte order and > sampling rates? > > - There is no jitter check and no quality control with dd on FreeBSD, > cdda2wav works on all OS and has jitter control and qualiti control > with e.g. libparanoia. > > - There is no way to get the correct CD structure back if you use dd. > Cdda2wav reads meta-data and puts them into *.inf files. > > - With dd, you cannot read intentionally defective media as sold by > the music mafia. > > > It's much better to always deal with endianness-safe commands/formats. > > My proposition: > Sub-section "ATAPI Drives" should be deleted. > Title of "SCSI Drives" should be changed to "SCSI/ATAPI Drives". > > ATAPI drives are exposed as SCSI devices so there should be no problem. The fact one or some burners fail with burncd(8) is not a reason to delete documentation. The "7.3.2 Ripping CD Audio Tracks" section documents cdda2wav for both interfaces. I'd not remove/rename the ATAPI Drives since it's a feature provided by FreeBSD, people are free to use or not the "/dev/acddtnn" feature especially when the ripped file can be directly used by burncd(8). (Don't forget both come with the base system). But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1) method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 10:10:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC6A1065677; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from mail.rubicom.hu (mail.rubicom.hu [89.147.80.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F32D8FC0C; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.rubicom.hu) by mail.rubicom.hu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6ikL-000793-Ks; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 Received: from ip5993549e.rubicom.hu ([89.147.84.158] helo=baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx) by mail.rubicom.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L6ikL-00078u-9p; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 Received: from baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU9bjLU002099; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: (from sziszi@localhost) by baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU9bjaq002098; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) X-Authentication-Warning: baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx: sziszi set sender to sziszi@bsd.hu using -f Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081130093744.GA1800@baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx> References: <200811292104.mATL4EmQ005786@www.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811292104.mATL4EmQ005786@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:10:23 -0000 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:04:14PM +0000, Yuri wrote: > My proposition: > Sub-section "ATAPI Drives" should be deleted. > Title of "SCSI Drives" should be changed to "SCSI/ATAPI Drives". > > ATAPI drives are exposed as SCSI devices so there should be no problem. I do not particularly care for the self-advertisement of Joerg for his own software, but at least the last sentence is not true. On FreeBSD, exposing ATAPI devices as SCSI is just a choice that the user is free to make (or not). The use of the atapicam module or kernel option is just that, entirely optional. Also, atapicam may have at least as many problems with particular hardware/software combinations as burncd, so YMMV. I for one use burncd and I am perfectly happy with it. Note: One other reason people used to prefer "cdrecord" was that it was a standard staple on linux, and so a lot of pretty GUI frontends were written for it that do little more than call cdrecord with the correct arguments. For me, this is not important, burning from the command line just works(TM). -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Budapest Hungary From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 10:20:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8650C106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C948FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUAK38m030152 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUAK300030151; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:03 GMT Message-Id: <200811301020.mAUAK300030151@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Szilveszter Adam Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Szilveszter Adam List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:20:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:37:45 +0100 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:04:14PM +0000, Yuri wrote: > My proposition: > Sub-section "ATAPI Drives" should be deleted. > Title of "SCSI Drives" should be changed to "SCSI/ATAPI Drives". > > ATAPI drives are exposed as SCSI devices so there should be no problem. I do not particularly care for the self-advertisement of Joerg for his own software, but at least the last sentence is not true. On FreeBSD, exposing ATAPI devices as SCSI is just a choice that the user is free to make (or not). The use of the atapicam module or kernel option is just that, entirely optional. Also, atapicam may have at least as many problems with particular hardware/software combinations as burncd, so YMMV. I for one use burncd and I am perfectly happy with it. Note: One other reason people used to prefer "cdrecord" was that it was a standard staple on linux, and so a lot of pretty GUI frontends were written for it that do little more than call cdrecord with the correct arguments. For me, this is not important, burning from the command line just works(TM). -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Budapest Hungary From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:06:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AE11065675; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694788FC19; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (maxim@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUF6qL7087680; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:52 GMT (envelope-from maxim@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from maxim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUF6p1r087676; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:51 GMT (envelope-from maxim) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:51 GMT Message-Id: <200811301506.mAUF6p1r087676@freefall.freebsd.org> To: EitanAdlerList@gmail.com, maxim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: maxim@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129285: [patch] df man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:52 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] df man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: maxim State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 30 15:04:31 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: -T flag is documented in df(1) man page. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129285 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 18:50:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B71D1065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA9B8FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUIo3Pw078158 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUIo3Ln078157; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:03 GMT Message-Id: <200811301850.mAUIo3Ln078157@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Yuri Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yuri List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:50:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Yuri To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:18:56 -0800 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" > section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1) > method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases. > There is another pitfall of dd method: kern/115232: [ata] Audio CD tracks not displayed properly by atapi driver The warning about this should also be added to the section describing the use of dd/burncd method if this section is left there anyway. -- Yuri From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:13:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E0B1065675 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4C48FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mAUJDWHl022949; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:13:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mAUJDVo3065652; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:13:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUJDVpN065561; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:13:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:13:31 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Yuri Message-ID: <20081130191331.GB43869@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200811301850.mAUIo3Ln078157@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811301850.mAUIo3Ln078157@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:13:34 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:50:03PM +0000, Yuri wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Yuri > To: Marc Fonvieille > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend > the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:18:56 -0800 > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" > > section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1) > > method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases. > > > > There is another pitfall of dd method: kern/115232: [ata] Audio CD > tracks not displayed properly by atapi driver > The warning about this should also be added to the section describing > the use of dd/burncd method This is documented: -- Make sure the appropriate files exist in /dev. If the entries are missing, force the system to retaste the media: # dd if=/dev/acd0 of=/dev/null count=1 -- which is a workaround to the problem you experienced. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:20:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410761065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3068D8FC16 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUJK3Z2000707 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUJK3IE000706; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 GMT Message-Id: <200811301920.mAUJK3IE000706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Marc Fonvieille Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marc Fonvieille List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:20:03 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Fonvieille To: Yuri Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:13:31 +0100 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:50:03PM +0000, Yuri wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/129281; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Yuri > To: Marc Fonvieille > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: docs/129281: Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend > the use of non endianness safe dd/burncd commands > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:18:56 -0800 > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > But I think we can slightly reword this "18.6.5 Duplicating Audio CDs" > > section to mention ATAPI interface supports both cdda2wav and dd(1) > > method and that cdda2wav may be a better choice in many cases. > > > > There is another pitfall of dd method: kern/115232: [ata] Audio CD > tracks not displayed properly by atapi driver > The warning about this should also be added to the section describing > the use of dd/burncd method This is documented: -- Make sure the appropriate files exist in /dev. If the entries are missing, force the system to retaste the media: # dd if=/dev/acd0 of=/dev/null count=1 -- which is a workaround to the problem you experienced. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 21:49:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274271065676 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D548FC17 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so887195eyi.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:49:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=wFUrNi0wKc7gRP/2lZnZk1L7Y0xOTg7YkGDtNN/xPjI=; b=exDPgBf1AWEEYenZUzDnLL8ke4bNDHenLgwns1/2uUNDZfYw77ehzjqGcBZcDTqtFn uWNMJZnHgKD4TlD9mkDpwVfjQFwywwyCbsm0mLcq8crbM0b23rFZowAdBGpWxbAzvr9J 18gnAg7MZ3NkC3GJY9cGgs4F3vfF0eOZoqMA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=lCxnn6qtkgFRsSyan7Urwwrj4njmyLpNlWeqRIkiP14rNBbXscx1VDbKFxmRfb7OsJ TAVPPEghF5Hjv431Ep06XY0d4uz02OAH9DnVgisai1xIhIcrTb6N+T3r7FyNX2G3ji9t tcwxzSFl6SVm7jn79JS+2SB1gf74j8K404bXI= Received: by 10.103.160.9 with SMTP id m9mr4220423muo.96.1228081778125; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? (catv-89-132-186-236.catv.broadband.hu [89.132.186.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e8sm4389353muf.23.2008.11.30.13.49.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:49:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:49:26 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:49:40 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Here are a few nits you may want to act on. Thank you for your review. I fixed all the problems you pointed out and created a new version [1][2]. > I can't tell about technical accuracy. Hm, it seems I should really test the description myself :) > "Note that, a 320x200 “splash screen” image will be displayed as a > small block in the center of a solid white background screen." => I > don't understand what you mean by this. Since the resolution at boot > will be 320x200, the splash screen will still fill the entire screen. > Do you mean to compare the size of the image to a typical desktop? To be honest, it was (blindly) imported from the original text. As far as I remember (I used splash screens about three years ago), it wants to tell you something like "if you have a 320x200 image but the resolution is higher, then it will be put in the middle of the screen". Anyway, I removed this sentence, since I do not see any clear connection with the other sentences. > While discussing text mode screensavers, it might be worth mentioning > that you can get the list of available savers by ls > /boot/kernel/*saver.ko or something along that line. Instead of this, I simply referenced the splash(4) manual page, it should be enough. > I also feel some longer sentences could use a few commas. I tried to insert those commas, and split some longer sentences up into smaller ones. > I've only peeked at the SGML, but I am sure there is nothing to fix > there :) Thank you for trusting my SGML skills :) Note for native speakers: please, review! Regards, :g [1] http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/11/30/splash.screen.section.patch.diff [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/11/30/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 08:09:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A354A1065688 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043918FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB189IdX028960 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:09:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB189HDL001352 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:09:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB189HFQ001351 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:09:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:09:17 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:09:24 -0000 Hello, Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are never updated. Another problem is the fact the doc build requires a lot of diskspace and a lot of time on slow architectures/CPUs/etc which is a problem during release process. To sum up, we're lacking of a simple way to install and update docs without any compilation operation. I'm working since a while on ports for doc, so here are the first packages available for test: http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/bn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/da-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/de-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/el-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/es-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/fr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/hu-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/it-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/ja-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/mn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/nl-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/pl-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/pt-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/ru-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/sr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/tr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/zh_cn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/zh_tw-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz These packages provide html-split version (of course other formats are possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 docset. Another thing to note, the packages install docs in /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd So just: pkg_add -r http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz and tell me if you like it :) -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:18:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D901065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3BE8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB18cVn7093176; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:38:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB18cVEd093175; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:38:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6l5grKlqnFru2tD8/qmD" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:38:31 +0100 Message-Id: <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:18:01 -0000 --=-6l5grKlqnFru2tD8/qmD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc Fonvieille p=ED=B9e v po 01. 12. 2008 v 09:09 +0100: > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > never updated. You aware of this? http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html I admit it's kind of hidden. --=20 Pav Lucistnik East or west, ~ is best. --=-6l5grKlqnFru2tD8/qmD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Toto je =?UTF-8?Q?digit=C3=A1ln=C4=9B?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=C4=8D=C3=A1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkkzoocACgkQntdYP8FOsoJrrwCgiLuk4wOeZ6anX1kDD3ZyCqx+ Q5EAn3AL5NSEGRYX27IDqJJXNm4+G6Zp =mfeG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6l5grKlqnFru2tD8/qmD-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:48:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBE71065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0698FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1788554fgb.35 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:48:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=bYQ6bRaRccMDRauQ3Rx8NvMmiTySm7btRhxfq6Z6qKY=; b=GYxMWSpkFX7/BfozWqmetKl7I8zB4KAjnrP5L9U4I+1k8eT9eNtucnbDHBGwiUWh/6 jCv22JIEwXHTnpC9ZXKCMF+lFsjgX4E8sdchtY4rn7mcJU6NOq4eIOaPSu1OBiCK9iqw q95PIBntCfphRD69lU2d1J+88dUT5My0O3m74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=E7tqNTigXx9MVe3T12XBact0lef1d+ltHGQsD5uSWkHSEsCInBJGXfdYHwt2NbJ8Pb mjpytHPnv7RW73i+DZKXlAW1M5vmv8CPrWOuvOJ0sB2WCP8YVkxKwrskKAZFt+fx8h0H GvK6VbS3tuLXtewbbEiJojTKsQdjzaXKzKbTg= Received: by 10.181.208.8 with SMTP id k8mr3875188bkq.128.1228124917064; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? (catv-89-132-186-236.catv.broadband.hu [89.132.186.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2sm6208261fkh.9.2008.12.01.01.48.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:48:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933B2E8.10507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:48:24 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:48:39 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] and tell me if you > like it :) I think generally it is a good idea to reanimate the concept documentation packages, however last time I asked about them (May 2008, while fixing the FAQ), I got an interesting answer [1] from Hiroki Sato: "The doc packages are no longer available because the past discussion reached a consensus that generating them is a bit tricky and most of people do not need such packages because the latest documentation is always available on the web." Regards, :g [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-May/014318.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:55:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A2C1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374B68FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB19tKtO029828; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:55:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB19tK4U001698; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:55:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB19tKoN001697; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:55:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:55:20 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20081201095520.GB1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:55:23 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 09:38:31AM +0100, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Marc Fonvieille p=ED?e v po 01. 12. 2008 v 09:09 +0100: >=20 > > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > > never updated. >=20 > You aware of this? >=20 > http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html >=20 > I admit it's kind of hidden. It is :) The objective is different, with packages people will be able to easily choose language, update (with portupgrade, portmaster etc.), formats like PDF will be provided, the base system is not touched. Nothing more than a simple pkg_add(1) command should be required. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 10:35:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D701065672; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B407F8FC12; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB1AZXqN030177; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:35:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB1AZXB5001806; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:35:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1AZXOx001805; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:35:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:35:33 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Gabor PALI Message-ID: <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933B2E8.10507@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4933B2E8.10507@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:35:35 -0000 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:48:24AM +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] and tell me if you > > like it :) > > I think generally it is a good idea to reanimate the concept > documentation packages, however last time I asked about them (May 2008, > while fixing the FAQ), I got an interesting answer [1] from Hiroki Sato: > > "The doc packages are no longer available because the past discussion > reached a consensus that generating them is a bit tricky and most of > people do not need such packages because the latest documentation is > always available on the web." > [...] But you cut the last sentence :) Yes, it was difficult to maintain them and we had no real solution to continue to provide them. It's true that the doc is available via the web, but as I said the aim is not only provide packages to the user but also modernize the doc installation and build for the releases. Now, I have a working solution that can be updated, etc. without headaches, so we may have to rethink about the current situation. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:06:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EA31065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4413F8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1B66DG051606 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1B65OG051602 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <200812011106.mB1B65OG051602@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/129281 doc Audio CD ripping/duplication shouldn't recommend the u o docs/129263 doc Obsolete info on collecting a crash dump prior to "dum o docs/129196 doc Inconsistent errno in strtol() o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/129024 doc [patch] ipfw(8) improvements p docs/128968 doc [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo o docs/128804 doc Gmirror handbook instructions convert boot-drive to gm o docs/128768 doc Missing documentation about tmpfs mount options o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/128325 doc README.snapshots still refers to snaphots as "alpha-te o docs/128222 doc [patch] man page truss(1) claims that init(8) can be t o docs/128129 doc Sysinstall color problem in xterm o docs/128128 doc Sysinstall not mentioned in 4.4 "Using the Packages Sy o docs/128032 doc pthread(3) mentions libkse which has been removed in 8 o docs/127952 doc man for locate(1) is missing o docs/127923 doc Please mention qemu in the FreeBSD Handbook o docs/127908 doc [PATCH] readdir(3) error documentation o docs/127890 doc socket(2) man page should explain that protocol can be p docs/127866 doc Typos found in ifconfig(8) man page o docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/127842 doc list of hardware devices missing from the relnotes o docs/127840 doc [patch] fix entity references in release/doc/en_US.ISO o docs/127602 doc [patch] Incomplete information in nsswitch.conf(5) o docs/127575 doc [patch] Update to ports (7) as it is missing a few mak o docs/127406 doc [patch] update umodem man page: Sony Ericsson W810i o docs/126934 doc missing 'crit' in usr.sbin/syslogd/syslog.conf.5 o docs/126921 doc [patch] History section of cpuset(1) incorrect o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126487 doc fix language on atol(3) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/126445 doc discussion on WEP settings in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) m o docs/126227 doc [patch] kthread(9) refers to non-existent manpage, des o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125896 doc [PATCH] arp manual and syntax synchronisation o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete o docs/125639 doc [patch] kldunloadf(2) does not mention about possible p docs/124166 doc fortune: instant-workstation tip should go o docs/123400 doc gvinum startup in handbook o docs/123035 doc [patch] bugs in refuse.README o docs/122470 doc [patch] exit status on fetch(1) manual page o docs/122053 doc [patch] update on vinum(4) reference to newfs(8) o docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121197 doc [patch] edits to books/porters-handbook o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120628 doc PAE documentation errror in handbook o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120040 doc handbook: diskless operation: populate root doesn't po o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119907 doc Ports compatibility o docs/119746 doc l10n chapter of handbook (Russian Language) o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) s docs/119404 doc [request] events page should list only last 2 years wo o docs/119338 doc gprof(1) refers to unmentioned option "-c" o docs/119329 doc [patch] Fix misleading man 1 split o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118545 doc loader tunables kern.dfldsiz and friends nearly undocu o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117798 doc formatting oddity in sysmouse(4) o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/117013 doc mount_smbfs(8) doesn't document -U (username) argument o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/115921 doc Booting from pst(4) is not supported o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/112481 doc bug in ppp.linkup example o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111263 doc [request] Information on $EDITOR variable in section 3 o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [PATCH] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109983 doc No manual entry for protoize o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109975 doc No manual entry for elf2aout o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd o docs/109115 doc add Ultra 450 to hardware list for sparc64 a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105997 doc sys/kern/sys_pipe.c refer to tuning(7), but there is n o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/102148 doc The description of which Intel chips have EM64T is out o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85100 doc NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84538 doc [patch] sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chip too o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting f docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/70652 doc [patch] New man page: portindex(5) o docs/70583 doc [patch] Update freebsd-glossary o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 178 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 13:41:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80154106567D for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400AB8FC21 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (c-68-83-213-214.hsd1.va.comcast.net [68.83.213.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1DfZsK026223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:41:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:41:31 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <20081201084131.74ecf576.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:41:50 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:09:17 +0100 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Hello, > > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > never updated. > Another problem is the fact the doc build requires a lot of diskspace > and a lot of time on slow architectures/CPUs/etc which is a problem > during release process. > > To sum up, we're lacking of a simple way to install and update docs > without any compilation operation. > I'm working since a while on ports for doc, so here are the first > packages available for test: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/bn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/da-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/de-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/el-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/es-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/fr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/hu-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/it-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/ja-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/mn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/nl-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/pl-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/pt-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/ru-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/sr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/tr-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/zh_cn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/zh_tw-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > > These packages provide html-split version (of course other formats are > possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 docset. > Another thing to note, the packages install docs in > /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd > > So just: > > pkg_add -r http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > > and tell me if you like it :) Actually, this seems like a pretty good idea. As long as we can keep it updated for people, I'm sure there are users out there who would love to have updated documentation as time goes on. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:02:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B94106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1F78FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so2576534ugs.39 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:02:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZtcFJCs4LuHKTngDWPL3wHv06z/zpdv6fT2LO9cXNg=; b=rdNgdaXKxZD0XirQ8Lwe3YGIhVka/5hFd89thi+iO+gDVb2o0C3JDJ8F3gRGRJwcD8 Ianm0WiqeEgXaVBBuUhhv/OcGNER+pJJdCdTXjYrG7R2MjKi/H8cpFzOjRz5R44obGz/ zFCDu30CYlQFg/JbdKyT2xfnNUa3dis8Kzh/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SrIkFaII9R+7L4E1zRqutQXfP3FhlM5wr6aQ7gZrzpBgfvtG3W5toIJcuO8Wb0fmnH GtphOdoAcj+7Q1Jjw8CQQkvWsLGBebozGXtN1Vqs5SbO63/PWggfY1HAgHxn0+EvwYCI EzSlmwtOUYZjglQti4ezLlhIj6fyQ8H7qKJtQ= Received: by 10.67.119.8 with SMTP id w8mr2413984ugm.3.1228140178135; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4378593.home.otenet.gr [79.130.63.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm8334233ugf.38.2008.12.01.06.02.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:02:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:02:53 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:02:59 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Hello, > > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > never updated. > Another problem is the fact the doc build requires a lot of diskspace > and a lot of time on slow architectures/CPUs/etc which is a problem > during release process. > > To sum up, we're lacking of a simple way to install and update docs > without any compilation operation. > I'm working since a while on ports for doc, so here are the first > packages available for test: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/bn-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/da-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/de-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/el-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > > So just: > > pkg_add -r http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > > and tell me if you like it :) > > This is actually a nice idea - in fact it would be great for the Greek documentation set, which is constantly changing as more translations are added. I just tried the el package and it works great. I could even include this in some custom package cd sets I am giving out to people. Having local docs is very important for people without always-on Internet (and I know quite a few) Since as you said you have a way of automating this, my only other question would be how often will these be updated. Are you planning, say, for monthly releases? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:13:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DF410656D7 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4D48FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1017795eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:13:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=561/z8ChR4l0NpHF+mL9oS5J6okq6oQRxWCLEoohYlA=; b=PZuTZq3PkWH6jG8nRZ/PAX4bius5suBsL0yJOD2qSDckp57i/aCuHT2IQ9IeTHasGd EKnH81rYAKRXMYgCcXSfXpBDPI01F+eRXtBC/VLOJ8Kd/34RNhDOsZ2PbkXn3Ivhxgxz BPlovldXV34cq5yhAJctJVm9BXADytQou2fj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=EGF4iufypAo8BXe2EPzVxfxSRmCc5a/+1h+r2glcx491qoLS7CVdaK9OyMTnadnfOc Sw76BhChdBf3ZFvu6t52eXuh0uak6+rb4ghNBj1Cxzsa9F2MzowWo6a2hLFWQ9Nw8Pnv 9nK17HeX/UG/I9dPfNRFdGx6nxdG6u6NsiD8I= Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr6355621fgb.41.1228140831953; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.8? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm776559fge.31.2008.12.01.06.13.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:13:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933F113.4010100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:13:39 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pav@FreeBSD.org References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:13:54 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote: > http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html > > I admit it's kind of hidden. Why have not you documented it? :) I would be happy see a short description of this method in the Handbook, for example, in Chapter "Updating FreeBSD", right next to portsnap. Regards, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:17:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A799106564A; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075A88FC19; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (c-68-83-213-214.hsd1.va.comcast.net [68.83.213.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1EHYpV026358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:17:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:17:30 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Gabor PALI Message-Id: <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:17:36 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:49:26 +0100 Gabor PALI wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Here are a few nits you may want to act on. >=20 > Thank you for your review. I fixed all the problems you pointed out and > created a new version [1][2]. >=20 >=20 > > I can't tell about technical accuracy. >=20 > Hm, it seems I should really test the description myself :) >=20 >=20 > > "Note that, a 320x200 ___splash screen___ image will be displayed as a > > small block in the center of a solid white background screen." =3D> I > > don't understand what you mean by this. Since the resolution at boot > > will be 320x200, the splash screen will still fill the entire screen. > > Do you mean to compare the size of the image to a typical desktop? >=20 > To be honest, it was (blindly) imported from the original text. As far > as I remember (I used splash screens about three years ago), it wants to > tell you something like "if you have a 320x200 image but the resolution > is higher, then it will be put in the middle of the screen". Anyway, I > removed this sentence, since I do not see any clear connection with the > other sentences. >=20 >=20 > > While discussing text mode screensavers, it might be worth mentioning > > that you can get the list of available savers by ls=20 > > /boot/kernel/*saver.ko or something along that line. >=20 > Instead of this, I simply referenced the splash(4) manual page, it > should be enough. >=20 >=20 > > I also feel some longer sentences could use a few commas. >=20 > I tried to insert those commas, and split some longer sentences up into > smaller ones. >=20 >=20 > > I've only peeked at the SGML, but I am sure there is nothing to fix > > there :) >=20 > Thank you for trusting my SGML skills :) >=20 >=20 > Note for native speakers: please, review! You asked. :P Index: chapter.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.65 diff -u -r1.65 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 30 May 2006 23:08:23 -0000 1.65 +++ chapter.sgml 30 Nov 2008 21:53:30 -0000 @@ -507,6 +507,192 @@ + + + + + + Joseph J. + Barbish + Contributed by + + + + + Boot Time Splash Screens + + &os; has a feature to allow the display of a splash + screen in place of showing boot messages. This makes + for a clearer visually experience getting to the legacy What? How about: "The splash screen creates a more visually appealing boot screen comparied to the original boot messages. This screen will be displayed until a console login prompt or X Display Manager offers a login prompt." + virtual console text login prompt and/or the X Display Manager + graphical login screen. + + There are two basic environments available in &os;. The + first is the default legacy virtual console text command line Axe the "text" word here. + environment. After the system finishes booting, a virtual + console text login prompt is presented. The second Probably axe "text" here too - I know you're attempting to describe the look; however, it just sounds odd to me. Similar below. + environment is the X11 Desktop graphical environment. After + X11 and one of the graphical + desktop environments, such as + GNOME, + KDE, or + XFce are installed, the X11 desktop + can be launched from the command line by using the + startx command. + + Some X11 users may select not to stop "may elect" here, but I think this entire bit needs reworded. "Some users prefer the X11 desktop graphical login screen over the traditional text based login prompt." is one example of a better sentence. + at the virtual console login prompt at boot time, but go + directly to the X11 desktop display manager's graphical login + screen. Popular choices are XDM, + the display manager of &xorg;, gdm + for GNOME, and + kdm for + KDE, but any other display manager + found in the Ports Collection could be used. These display Not sure about this sentence either. :( + managers basically provide a graphical login screen in place + of the default legacy virtual console text login prompt. + After a successful login, they present the user with a + graphical desktop. + + In the virtual console text command line environment, the + splash screen would hide all the boot probe messages and task + startup messages before displaying the login prompt. In X11 + environment, the users would get a visually clearer system + start up experience resembling something closer to what a + (µsoft; &windows; or non-unix type system) user would + experience. + + + Splash Screen Function + + The splash screen function only supports + 256-color bitmap (.bmp) or ZSoft + PCX (.pcx) files. + In addition, the splash image files must have a resolution + of 320 by 200 pixels or less to work on standard VGA + adapters. + + To use larger images, up to the maximum resolution + supported by the video card, activate the + VESA support included in &os;. This can + be enabled by loading the VESA module + during system boot, or adding a VESA + kernel configuration option and building a custom kernel + (see ). The + VESA support gives users the ability to + display a splash screen image that fills the + whole display screen. + + While the splash screen is being + displayed during the booting process, it can be turned off + any time by hitting a key. "by hitting any key on the keyboard." + + The splash screen defaults to becoming a + screen saver. After a time period of non-use the screen "also defaults to being a screen saver outside of X11." + will change to the splash screen and cycle + through steps of changing intensity of the image, from + bright intensity to a very dark intensity and over again. + This default splash screen (screen saver) + behavior could be overridden by adding a + saver=3D line to + /etc/rc.conf. Option + saver=3D has several built-in screen savers + to choose from, the full list can be found in the + &man.splash.4; manual page. The default splash + screen screen saver is called warp. + Note that, the saver=3D option specified in "Note that the ..." + /etc/rc.conf only applies to virtual + consoles. It has no effect on X11 display managers. + + At boot time with the splash screen + enabled, a few boot loader messages still could be seen leading + up to and including the boot options menu, and a timed wait + count down prompt before the splash screen is + displayed. This sentence is a bit much. + + Sample splash screen files can be downloaded from the + gallery at . + + + + Enabling the Splash Screen Function + + The splash screen + (.bmp) or (.pcx) + file has to be placed in the /boot directory. + + For default boot display resolution (256-color, 320 by + 200 pixels, or less), edit + /boot/loader.conf, so it contains the + following: + + splash_bmp_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_name=3D"/boot/splash.bmp" + + For larger video resolutions up to the maximum of the + video card, edit /boot/loader.conf, so + it contains the following: + + vesa_load=3D"YES" +splash_bmp_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_name=3D"/boot/splash.bmp" + + The above assumes that + /boot/splash.bmp + is used for splash screen. When a PCX + file is desired, use the previous statements, plus the + vesa_load=3D"YES" line depending on the + resolution. + + splash_pcx_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_load=3D"YES" +bitmap_name=3D"/boot/splash.pcx" + + The file name is not really restricted to Axe the word "really" here. + splash as shown in the above example. It can + be anything as long as it has type of BMP + or PCX, such as + splash_640x400.bmp + or + blue_wave.pcx. + + There are another two possible interesting + loader.conf options. Not sure about this one. + + + + beastie_disable=3D"YES" + + + This will stop the boot options menu from being + displayed, but the timed wait count down prompt will + still be present. Even with the display of the boot + options menu disabled, entering an option selection at + the timed wait count down prompt will enact the + corresponding boot option. + + + + + loader_logo=3D"beastie" + + + This will replace the default words + &os;, which are displayed to the right + of the boot options menu with the colored beastie logo + like releases in the past had. + + + + + For more information, please see the &man.splash.4;, + &man.loader.conf.5;, and &man.vga.4; manual pages. + + Hope that helps. --=20 Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:25:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CCE106564A; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB5C8FC17; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nat-application.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1EPQ3I005598; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1EPPCG005597; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Gabor PALI In-Reply-To: <4933F113.4010100@FreeBSD.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <4933F113.4010100@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-MCJJORrzISyw4GxhJt4F" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:25:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1228141525.91796.56.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:25:30 -0000 --=-MCJJORrzISyw4GxhJt4F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gabor PALI p=ED=B9e v po 01. 12. 2008 v 15:13 +0100: > Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html > >=20 > > I admit it's kind of hidden. >=20 > Why have not you documented it? :) I would be happy see a short > description of this method in the Handbook, for example, in Chapter > "Updating FreeBSD", right next to portsnap. Sounds good. Can you come up with a patch? --=20 Pav Lucistnik 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. --=-MCJJORrzISyw4GxhJt4F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Toto je =?UTF-8?Q?digit=C3=A1ln=C4=9B?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=C4=8D=C3=A1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkkz89UACgkQntdYP8FOsoKg0ACgvEX4t0k3Cbp+KQCRyLEp7rjA OgsAoIpPGcU0w8HTXC6m0W1ftiRfzH/U =CrP1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-MCJJORrzISyw4GxhJt4F-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:57:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80711065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816F48FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so1968108rne.12 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:57:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=qNw1WXrGR0BWK08Vd4IYJX4wXPORPVj2L7db2YWg768=; b=SP9REzSJ6F0oCColbeAN1IWg12ZHe+SSpTvxollBDZFacNGG9BzJ3MfJFfC+uOype4 2nG485iBR9ajdSRtuVvzomLUax6yoUuctSouaVqzFFZtkY3TfMAMoCkDOQurysQNYFxb n43qsxiXHdpl134FC77z5WN88nQAFRoEqBfko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=teVa1LJNZ82sutC58ENcWsUngFBGjpuRsR/o5gtEoM7VxCUepxUVKpRsMo6pbFEXfk UkZwdXDB2tZNItfI62CBWBg/1QEYIA1OdeDN+JjjfBchZuNS71sUOfDfunYvs5kqVvRd 2pU+lD41dYl5tYP7/SLZG/6CRLyZ4AVTNoiyY= Received: by 10.103.245.18 with SMTP id x18mr4599961mur.62.1228143440043; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.8? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm8699014mug.32.2008.12.01.06.57.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:57:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933FB47.7050704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:57:11 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pav@FreeBSD.org References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <4933F113.4010100@FreeBSD.org> <1228141525.91796.56.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <1228141525.91796.56.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:57:21 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Gabor PALI pe v po 01. 12. 2008 v 15:13 +0100: >>> http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html >> >> Why have not you documented it? :) I would be happy see a short >> description of this method in the Handbook, for example, in Chapter >> "Updating FreeBSD", right next to portsnap. > > Sounds good. Can you come up with a patch? > Well, originally, I hoped you will do this for us :) But yes, I would be also happy to write a short description on this method for the Handbook. May be end of next week? Regards, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:00:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458D106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51508FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so957261ywe.13 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:00:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=g66T3DGYmH+NgRTs4Ta4i92scpel4sC7NNNhQ6faJr0=; b=LXCyXXlIoDymK2WUCHYDrJCVvUMOn/ylFpD7ff/Q1GFROIvruxJatV7LvM8tJa1kq5 kxCe5+LvzmBZczhPwLLBLxFuf9gJJWd71ZrBFkqnu+p/MRPGjOMPtBmGIYN+dDlc66cy e2SEaMJ7zh1Rs9ZoYj7imCKX2YrynbUumHO8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=DdruNSFZ0v/ECl9hCLFEHZiZlsd2WB7j6Red4Vnk7w6ZSchCAm6qbpOU8hof1zb524 Y/MbL0oDMYYWDawYmQgaRYscEfX4JHAyPZO7nGXxPCc60t7x5oFbh82xWE3Dyq8dDDve LC25A7bDoRRmE/QaHeX9WEaFmk5IszNX/R0MU= Received: by 10.103.192.2 with SMTP id u2mr4597239mup.95.1228143642766; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.8? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm8839063muh.48.2008.12.01.07.00.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933FC12.1060806@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:00:34 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:00:44 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: >> [..] I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] > [..] > Since as you said you have a way of automating this, my only other > question would be how often will these be updated. Are you planning, > say, for monthly releases? Yes, it is a good question indeed. Some other questions in connection with this: - Where are these packages build and stored? - Would they be the part of the Ports Collection? If the answer is yes (a conditional subquestion): - Will they have a separate category? - Will they be maintained separately? - Who should maintain them? (In my opinion, every localized documentation package content should be maintained and regulated by the translators themselves.) Regards, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:03:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917441065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C38FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB1F3sdE032791; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:03:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id mB1F3s9F032790; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:03:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:03:54 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20081201150354.GA32597@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:03:57 -0000 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:02:53PM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > This is actually a nice idea - in fact it would be great for the Greek > documentation set, which is constantly changing as more translations are > added. > I just tried the el package and it works great. I could even include > this in some custom package cd sets I am giving out to people. Having > local docs is very important for people without always-on Internet (and > I know quite a few) > I think we don't (well I should check it) provide monthly updated PDF version, this is a part of my objective. > Since as you said you have a way of automating this, my only other > question would be how often will these be updated. Are you planning, > say, for monthly releases? These are ports, so once they are committed they can be updated. An update by month sounds reasonable, but people can update locally the ports if they need more frequent updates. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:25:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D591065678; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9598FC2E; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1FPO6W056417; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:24 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1FPObY056413; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:24 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:25:24 GMT Message-Id: <200812011525.mB1FPObY056413@freefall.freebsd.org> To: theultramage@gmail.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org From: keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/122359: times (3) returns system uptime, not epoch time X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:25:25 -0000 Synopsis: times (3) returns system uptime, not epoch time State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 1 15:24:59 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Reopen; this seems to be a manpage bug. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 1 15:24:59 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=122359 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:43:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5901F106567A; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05818FC1F; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB1JhRYr035152; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB1JhRsJ001164; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1JhQBJ001163; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:26 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Gabor PALI Message-ID: <20081201194326.GA1030@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> <4933FC12.1060806@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4933FC12.1060806@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:43:30 -0000 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:00:34PM +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> [..] I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] > > [..] > > Since as you said you have a way of automating this, my only other > > question would be how often will these be updated. Are you planning, > > say, for monthly releases? > > Yes, it is a good question indeed. Some other questions in connection > with this: > > - Where are these packages build and stored? > For the moment freefall and my desktop box are the build machines. > - Would they be the part of the Ports Collection? If the answer is yes > (a conditional subquestion): > > - Will they have a separate category? > The objective is having dedicaced ports and we may need a specific category. > - Will they be maintained separately? > > - Who should maintain them? (In my opinion, every localized > documentation package content should be maintained and regulated by the > translators themselves.) > doceng@ (and in part re@) should maintain them, as it's done for docproj related ports, etc. A monthly update is planned, if people need more frequent update they should use csup(1) etc. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:54:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E711065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6488FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1080986eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:54:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OIEwZMD1zfm5ddX7EqDMJT8grwB4fSGmnrhKpMhmzPM=; b=Qw+T34Mt1RqAIIo/MZbEqsP0JtZ5f+FYiUGIEGHzz9Jp3BWxnpWfw55W3Q7tFPJUDu jDkepLAp+7CfJSTb6AKo68Aa1sH3BcqIXrstYekv7vgfsx5aD23R+vdzKNVKk+TWtezo /Nuv8SL3G5s/ND++XRH0jXFuJG5iCeHkOgIN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BnqBUtMECJ2YCraonwy0kXQ8uQ19vO9tOkHT8Uns/yjHuMhg5VsIEYG07KN7Ei3vSo 9f1m5Bgf0TTHy1MCULkU27ygPPjlmgvAAWydi+/YJgFtNHrhkDEbCvLd9DrxgeqYsS9/ C9Ne3mHesmLmHCcmsmtjXLgU5tpvcKTi/lVAg= Received: by 10.210.34.5 with SMTP id h5mr12955184ebh.178.1228160822661; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from self.rene-ladan.nl ([77.163.174.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h6sm23035322nfh.21.2008.12.01.11.47.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:47:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49343F34.1010405@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:47:00 +0100 From: Rene Ladan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Fwd: PERFORCE change 153905 for review] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:54:27 -0000 Hi, it seems our parser is a bit sloppy about missing semicolons in entity references, which are compulsary according to http://xml.silmaril.ie/faq.sgml So now I'm curious who is right :) Rene -------- Originele bericht -------- Onderwerp: PERFORCE change 153905 for review Datum: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:22:26 GMT Van: Rene Ladan Aan: Perforce Change Reviews [...] ==== //depot/projects/docproj_nl/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml#5 (text+ko) ==== @@ -231,7 +231,7 @@ page: Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the -following line in &man.loader.conf.5: +following line in &man.loader.conf.5;: if_ath_load="YES" -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:13:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B1E106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA768FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1084414eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:13:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gzEf1pbuFdXjeW3QCxBDFaba4niniwK/ntkkiu/n3nk=; b=LaSq3G40XTQNtczikzfP98qWu2MDWvKUUEguVjvRvKOLvvMIHmjnYqmqy7XYObs0Z5 VO/jHepF8l31FZDAQYvoFWAKT6ABCF5CdUfgPr5IVscqfXgR+FlsuqHi/Ym0/CjNgk0M jT7GAWtjrYm8P+E7u5cO8m8e/dUI/lSJpIA74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x1rZib9k+FNvXhz04dAStf9/Sc5Wi7N+si/wsI3uZov5fdZBJpQSnQAsbJoNcVLtV6 8SEopHSIWP0Hl0kjQqwX9kE3c8iEiaJWAvi4fUZgF9Q/GUTe6ekoTfK3SERZ4nNnJzQ3 n6PmOF2JEs3jdLf+aTa3e/fy2iFkt/SCaV9wQ= Received: by 10.210.126.18 with SMTP id y18mr7764004ebc.120.1228162416497; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4378593.home.otenet.gr [79.130.63.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm23204881nfv.8.2008.12.01.12.13.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49344568.3060509@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:13:28 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rene Ladan References: <49343F34.1010405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49343F34.1010405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: PERFORCE change 153905 for review] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:13:39 -0000 Rene Ladan wrote: > Hi, > > it seems our parser is a bit sloppy about missing semicolons in > entity references, which are compulsary according to > http://xml.silmaril.ie/faq.sgml > > So now I'm curious who is right :) > > Rene > > -------- Originele bericht -------- > Onderwerp: PERFORCE change 153905 for review > Datum: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:22:26 GMT > Van: Rene Ladan > Aan: Perforce Change Reviews > > [...] > > ==== > //depot/projects/docproj_nl/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml#5 > (text+ko) ==== > > @@ -231,7 +231,7 @@ > page: > > Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at > boot time, place the > -following line in &man.loader.conf.5: > +following line in &man.loader.conf.5;: > > if_ath_load="YES" > Hey, this is difficult to spot. Even the parser didn't notice :) Seriously, I find it weird that this still renders properly. I am using vim with syntax coloring, and if I forget a semicolon, the lack of color usually reminds me. But I never expected it would render with a colon (esp. since the colon is then kept as part of text) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:24:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9F81065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C838FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1086257eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:23:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l2p0BSDQPdH6rfo6eCfGAEt3+NUjKcA4G8mNcJVxSL0=; b=dCJETn/1OR/B5/G4RuxsiU1+oXztkbr42d9ZUNmnmF5QygPmCLwncp9sqFh/tsCrx6 td/PFFGVyXpZTcD+DzVWqdl7Q1JMyHpwMyamEOB7dxZMdHbNX2mY5+BY/NMSQhITuUVE +/X6qiGGAxzbypFkViLmPwyGmKsg6Dhw1092o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pvYZy/Kx9NO2YF++j89QGak6HIJVRlqRXK5C1lCgyGODW2A63uDZVVJGC38Y6ugS3l eOS0kRyt52nCQjZ2giq+Xcfg5j2hZ1zLtsJDkP69Bml552bUygYjQKC/dzIAnA1ypkIO hcpUkK8VEF18cdeUuwMYkA8e22KIgArwxWQgE= Received: by 10.210.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr935023eba.173.1228163039179; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4378593.home.otenet.gr [79.130.63.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm23261529nfi.13.2008.12.01.12.23.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:23:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <493447DA.1000203@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:23:54 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933EE8D.4020001@gmail.com> <4933FC12.1060806@FreeBSD.org> <20081201194326.GA1030@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201194326.GA1030@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:24:01 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> - Will they be maintained separately? >> >> - Who should maintain them? (In my opinion, every localized >> documentation package content should be maintained and regulated by the >> translators themselves.) >> >> > > doceng@ (and in part re@) should maintain them, as it's done for docproj > related ports, etc. > A monthly update is planned, if people need more frequent update they > should use csup(1) etc. > > In fact, there wouldn't be much for a doc committer to maintain in such a port. You would just perform your usual work on patches, translations etc. and the port would just pick them up from CVS, build and package them. Monthly update also seems very reasonable to me. On average, I translate a chapter per month :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:36:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B951065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0D78FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1401539nfh.33 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:36:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v5kyxod8pLcOUx8xrjnNlugMM3/NB1o4u/IYLWHAgcQ=; b=f+m4CEYIwH1tBKK9BMjSUjK4YtK7vB8pKrcTD2aacVNOhkQ+Llis94P5DwUbGWhIww FW1bst6pw0rJbrk0yXKdpamangn5hGdWyCkF/EWakOmyt1LVnWMWtr7eeNOOSnLAWBa+ 0kvLoExPAOmdTR9TXhV+7W2eyZQt0rlghD8cE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uU9rmaXIDMxyWK1p/rwmSUcZWnKXLpipfwZ7RyR4LpWrh7W2Kts6dnQjln1els2SeC jKQYBRU54cZ5SInSYQu5n+caJsC+uggmF1OPktt2+k7wBRQepGvyO+CoSDZKL+WljITr XUXtNxheBNpR538FTRhUHkebKTYncus9sjL3o= Received: by 10.210.19.11 with SMTP id 11mr13024260ebs.168.1228163803171; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from self.rene-ladan.nl ([77.163.174.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i7sm23356924nfh.5.2008.12.01.12.36.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:36:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49344AD7.5020404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:36:39 +0100 From: Rene Ladan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <49343F34.1010405@gmail.com> <49344568.3060509@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49344568.3060509@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: PERFORCE change 153905 for review] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:36:45 -0000 Manolis Kiagias schreef: > Rene Ladan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> it seems our parser is a bit sloppy about missing semicolons in >> entity references, which are compulsary according to >> http://xml.silmaril.ie/faq.sgml >> >> So now I'm curious who is right :) >> >> Rene >> >> -------- Originele bericht -------- >> Onderwerp: PERFORCE change 153905 for review >> Datum: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:22:26 GMT >> Van: Rene Ladan >> Aan: Perforce Change Reviews >> >> [...] >> >> ==== >> //depot/projects/docproj_nl/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml#5 >> (text+ko) ==== >> >> @@ -231,7 +231,7 @@ >> page: >> >> Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at >> boot time, place the >> -following line in &man.loader.conf.5: >> +following line in &man.loader.conf.5;: >> >> if_ath_load="YES" >> > > Hey, this is difficult to spot. Even the parser didn't notice :) > Seriously, I find it weird that this still renders properly. > I am using vim with syntax coloring, and if I forget a semicolon, the > lack of color usually reminds me. But I never expected it would render > with a colon (esp. since the colon is then kept as part of text) > My vim (7.2.29 with SGML highlighting) caught it ;). Maybe the parser is forgiving, like HTML parsers. Regards, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:19:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DB6106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21D08FC1E for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7H7R-0000kR-Gv for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:19:54 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:19:53 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:19:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:19:43 +0100 Lines: 54 Message-ID: <493462FF.3030806@users.sf.net> References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081125 SeaMonkey/1.1.13 In-Reply-To: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:19:58 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Hello there, > > A few weeks ago Joseph J. Barbish has contributed a section on boot time > splash screens for the FreeBSD Handbook [1], and after a short > discussion it was requested for comments whether to be really included > it or not [2]. It received a very positive feedback on the topic, so I > created the SGML version of it, that you can study in form of a patch > [3] and a compiled HTML page [4]. > > Please, review, comment and send me your ideas on how to make it better > (and fix it up). Obviously, because I am not a native speaker of > English, it may contain mistakes (I am sure), so review of native > speakers are the most welcome, however review of avid users of the > presented boot time splash screen feature are also important for this patch. > > Thank you for the replies in advance. > > Cheers, > :g > > > PS: For your information, after its commit, I plan to rewrite the > corresponding FAQ entry about splash screens to reference this section > of the Handbook. > > [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html > [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/015007.html > [3] > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/11/29/splash.screen.section.patch.diff > [4] > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/11/29/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH > Hallo Gabor, As I have already written twice, the last time on 20/11/2008 22:22 -- IIRC even with VESA there's a limit of 1024x768 for boot splash images. You may want to mention sysutils/bsd-splash-changer port with which you can have splash image chosen from your collection randomly at each boot. -- Especially the first one -- have you actually checked the claim that you can use any size of splash screen image with VESA ? I checked it, although back in 5.3 era, and I could use max.resolution of 1024x768. Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:25:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D171065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA4F8FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7HCR-0000yN-La for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:25:03 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:25:03 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:25:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:24:40 +0100 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <1228120711.91796.16.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <4933F113.4010100@FreeBSD.org> <1228141525.91796.56.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081125 SeaMonkey/1.1.13 In-Reply-To: <1228141525.91796.56.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Sender: news Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:25:05 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Gabor PALI pe v po 01. 12. 2008 v 15:13 +0100: >> Pav Lucistnik wrote: >>> http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html >>> >>> I admit it's kind of hidden. >> Why have not you documented it? :) I would be happy see a short >> description of this method in the Handbook, for example, in Chapter >> "Updating FreeBSD", right next to portsnap. > > Sounds good. Can you come up with a patch? > Well, the thing is that it is not officially supported. Wouldn't it be better to move it to FreeBSD's own infrastructure ? Anyway, I've been using it for long and thanks you all for it. :) M. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:44:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BF410656D2 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103938FC21 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (c-68-83-213-214.hsd1.va.comcast.net [68.83.213.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1Mi92q028114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:44:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:44:05 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Rene Ladan Message-Id: <20081201174405.09768d58.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49344AD7.5020404@gmail.com> References: <49343F34.1010405@gmail.com> <49344568.3060509@gmail.com> <49344AD7.5020404@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: PERFORCE change 153905 for review] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:44:11 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:36:39 +0100 Rene Ladan wrote: > Manolis Kiagias schreef: > > Rene Ladan wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> it seems our parser is a bit sloppy about missing semicolons in > >> entity references, which are compulsary according to > >> http://xml.silmaril.ie/faq.sgml > >> > >> So now I'm curious who is right :) > >> > >> Rene > >> > >> -------- Originele bericht -------- > >> Onderwerp: PERFORCE change 153905 for review > >> Datum: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:22:26 GMT > >> Van: Rene Ladan > >> Aan: Perforce Change Reviews > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> ==== > >> //depot/projects/docproj_nl/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml#5 > >> (text+ko) ==== > >> > >> @@ -231,7 +231,7 @@ > >> page: > >> > >> Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at > >> boot time, place the > >> -following line in &man.loader.conf.5: > >> +following line in &man.loader.conf.5;: > >> > >> if_ath_load="YES" > >> > > > > Hey, this is difficult to spot. Even the parser didn't notice :) > > Seriously, I find it weird that this still renders properly. > > I am using vim with syntax coloring, and if I forget a semicolon, the > > lack of color usually reminds me. But I never expected it would render > > with a colon (esp. since the colon is then kept as part of text) > > > My vim (7.2.29 with SGML highlighting) caught it ;). Maybe the parser > is forgiving, like HTML parsers. My editor would never catch it, but I catch stuff like that when I do the secondary read/scroll through my work. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:01:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E57D106567B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F1778FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 5458 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 15:34:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 15:34:23 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48B1E178F2; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:34:24 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:34:24 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20081202153424.GA28433@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:01:08 -0000 On Mon 2008-12-01 09:09:17 UTC+0100, Marc Fonvieille (marc@blackend.org) wrote: > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > never updated. This is timely as just recently I upgraded from FreeBSD 6.3-REL to 6.4-REL using freebsd-update. After the upgrade I ran "freebsd-update IDS" and discovered I still had the 6.3 docs installed. >From what I can tell, several months ago I must have deleted all the non-English docs to free up disk space, but this seems to have meant that freebsd-update didn't detect that I still had the English docs installed, so didn't bother to upgrade them. Having a package for the docs makes a lot of sense. And there is no risk in having them outside the FreeBSD base. The system should still come up after a reboot even after "pkg_delete -a". > So just: > > pkg_add -r http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/pkgs/en-freebsd-doc-20081130.tbz > > and tell me if you like it :) Yes, thanks. :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:16:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FA11065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DF58FC1E for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so567920gve.39 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:16:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=WiAH70RAcfeIt+Un+uAaZG3wF+0QY4w1Ap1bFOcN4mA=; b=nC+1lcSSTBb5ZxAQmyIdb7Hmxx24WZ6EHJ0qfYT0WGAH67PvXmGRTHSj5TujbtACkE tM1rWKsWgM6NGoRcWBjpMGATAS3vnWF23gyi5NmsvIkd7eeJYQaQMjqmfZxJj8DvWptV c8o41jWpU+KraN1vNrI/I3LB8zuAFphxSUZl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=ZUxln/WucPyfxxe9pdbB8d9fScwUuQYMueLEPGOssr5Wz2B8QBeR1oYVT2dwbW29lK nEWH2QaPR95gFC7JOl3FFePO/wTfcPLOwfl4T5xGfUx/oT0Sh0Y+txx1QKW4XEKVfeyy sF6cP3cuHdaNarVyihx5/jE3r7u79VTiVqYWQ= Received: by 10.103.24.11 with SMTP id b11mr5509316muj.58.1228248979213; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? (catv-89-132-186-236.catv.broadband.hu [89.132.186.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm9920541fke.32.2008.12.02.12.16.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:16:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:16:04 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:16:22 -0000 Hello, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: >> Note for native speakers: please, review! > > You asked. :P Thank you very-very much. I accepted and merged all of your suggestions, so I only answer the parts where I have comments. [..] > + at the virtual console login prompt at boot time, but go > + directly to the X11 desktop display manager's graphical login > + screen. Popular choices are XDM, > + the display manager of &xorg;, gdm > + for GNOME, and > + kdm for > + KDE, but any other display manager > + found in the Ports Collection could be used. These display > > Not sure about this sentence either. :( [..] > + At boot time with the splash screen > + enabled, a few boot loader messages still could be seen leading > + up to and including the boot options menu, and a timed wait > + count down prompt before the splash screen is > + displayed. > > This sentence is a bit much. Okay, I tried to rephrase both of them, I hope you will like it. > + > + Sample splash screen files can be downloaded from the > + gallery at + url="http://www.baldwin.cx/splash/">. > + martinko wrote: > IIRC even with VESA there's a limit of 1024x768 for boot splash images. > > You may want to mention sysutils/bsd-splash-changer port with which you > can have splash image chosen from your collection randomly at each boot. Sorry that I missed it, but this time I added a sentence about this, too. I tested the maximum resolution, and splash screens are supported only up to 1024x768, indeed. I changed the limits to reflect this. > + There are another two possible interesting > + loader.conf options. > > Not sure about this one. Rephrased. > Hope that helps. Of course! Thank you again. Here is the next iteration: (patch version): http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/02/splash.screen.section.patch.diff (HTML version): http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/02/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH Regards, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:46:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD801065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96C08FC1B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so3053186ugs.39 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iU/Uq0k/WleTtbEHVIOs8+YXEAtE4C9XneNStG48g5Y=; b=OBxx/uNDe85pDZKksJzaVeBOr4TZA/74muw8DWJav9HAJPM3/rPpWWUjh48PelfC+h LWMFcr+DrePSOqPu7MByxTe1USaL9Vt5TyIceqZ1CoxReJGckvGiTBBvqyts+vK7mNss 7oIFgE7liA+DzSImrOsIKzK99RVwwYRj+BixA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SWiTEsPjZhjg2LvZn65/vkWgpDc4K+CAUsJDFelhCa6+692+Kd9ijFYVygU/qzJN7y 2vZ0dHPQgulzfcBe+97uZIQXfj39FfQVJMfR9PVv5VUbyGMtAiB/Wlz2JQ0geR4Nx3zT SjR5Ri6zVVLLFsppeJd0Y5qoYULcVXsl6FWFo= Received: by 10.66.241.13 with SMTP id o13mr1037640ugh.31.1228250790531; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-311450.home.otenet.gr [85.72.72.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm12296618ugc.25.2008.12.02.12.46.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:46:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49359EA1.3080600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:46:25 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor PALI References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:46:32 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > >> Hope that helps. >> > > Of course! Thank you again. > > > Here is the next iteration: > > (patch version): > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/02/splash.screen.section.patch.diff > > (HTML version): > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/02/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH > > > Regards, > :g > > I like the improvements too :) If I were to make a few changes (at the edge of these being doc-bikesheds): - Maybe find another way to describe the console login rather than "legacy virtual console login prompt". Although this may be very accurate I think it can be shortened sowewhat and still carry the same meaning. Esp. since it is mentioned a few times. - The word intensity is mentioned three times in a row "cycle through steps of changing intensity of the image, from bright intensity to a very dark intensity and over again." => I would probably change this to "cycle through steps of changing intensity of the image, from bright to very dark and over again." This is minor stuff of course, and as I said it might just be my own color. (off to find a nice boot screen for my Aspire one :) ) manolis@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:43:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFADF1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BCE8FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1546745eyi.7 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:43:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=nJLb7abRhXtQT9YkkpqcNWsrP4ltG0kS8tFdiKERQXM=; b=bKjAX+MxZPjnzGdT205WAp1YyUlsqwue34F/Cl60RTacDlj9nurVtr2q4DajM3+LGt QncwNX3kGAmVBqBjenQ1I5BttdwD0tzUPz92fNS/cYq0+YJDfd+OxGxc90V1agjoi3WD oTJQHXgfdcPG39i83yZRjT6hgWfWxroJN6iFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=Awrjbf6dq1gZTo/Hwh8K4DR64FarwziW5bMvxPdUoc3+XyK/fHLSCn6PecJu79q01Z +bz+QXYq43Hx5Pq3qCto9y5lcezbA4P0OH4tslYke7AaHD+bGmwiWTdUqOQZMhrIYObx s3qpuV8trEzNWH7J8q4fwnW6pACiDnFqvNG+0= Received: by 10.210.34.5 with SMTP id h5mr15746067ebh.133.1228333417615; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.8? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm9008803eyb.54.2008.12.03.11.43.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:43:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4936E15E.8000804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:43:26 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> <49359EA1.3080600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49359EA1.3080600@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:43:42 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > I like the improvements too :) > If I were to make a few changes (at the edge of these being doc-bikesheds): Absolutely not, it IS suggested by the FDP Primer [1]: ``Avoid redundant phrases Try not to use redundant phrases. In particular, "the command", "the file", and "man command" are probably redundant.'' Hopefully, I will reach this section of the FDP Primer in the Hungarian translation soon :) Thanks for the comment! I fixed the parts in question, so you can proof-check the results here: (in HTML:) http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH (in unified diff format:) http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/splash.screen.section.patch.diff Regards, :g [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/writing-style.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:10:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9B91065691 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6088FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3KA4ao003384 for ; 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Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:08:42 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB3K8glp003278; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:08:42 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Message-Id: <200812032008.mB3K8glp003278@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:08:42 GMT From: Gavin Atkinson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/129398: various tweaks to ddb-related man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:10:04 -0000 >Number: 129398 >Category: docs >Synopsis: various tweaks to ddb-related man pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 03 20:10:03 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gavin Atkinson >Release: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #35: Sun Oct 12 12:45:36 UTC 2008 simon@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/FREEFALL i386 >Description: Tweaks to ddb(8), savecore(8) and textdump(4): ddb(8): Remove .Ic from text which is not an interactive command, and add an .El (removes warnings during render) savecore(8): Fix an xref textdump(8): add a useful bit of info and an xref I haven't bumped .Dd on ddb(8) as this shouldn't affect the rendered man page. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- 20081203-manpages-ddb.diff begins here --- Index: src/sbin/ddb/ddb.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/ddb/ddb.8,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 ddb.8 --- src/sbin/ddb/ddb.8 3 Aug 2008 14:27:06 -0000 1.6 +++ src/sbin/ddb/ddb.8 3 Dec 2008 20:05:24 -0000 @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ The following debugger commands are available from the command line: .Bl -tag -width indent .It Xo -.Ic Cm capture +.Cm capture .Op Fl M Ar core .Op Fl N Ar system .Cm print @@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ .Xr ddb 4 output capture buffer. .It Xo -.Ic Cm capture +.Cm capture .Op Fl M Ar core .Op Fl N Ar system .Cm status @@ -104,6 +104,7 @@ Print the current status of the .Xr ddb 4 output capture buffer. +.El .Sh SCRIPTING The .Nm Index: src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 savecore.8 --- src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8 26 Dec 2007 11:42:10 -0000 1.26 +++ src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8 3 Dec 2008 19:17:13 -0000 @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ .\" From: @(#)savecore.8 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/5/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8,v 1.26 2007/12/26 11:42:10 rwatson Exp $ .\" -.Dd February 24, 2005 +.Dd December 3, 2008 .Dt SAVECORE 8 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ .Xr gzip 1 , .Xr getbootfile 3 , .Xr textdump 4 , -.Xr tar 4 , +.Xr tar 5 , .Xr dumpon 8 , .Xr syslogd 8 .Sh HISTORY Index: src/share/man/man4/textdump.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/textdump.4,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 textdump.4 --- src/share/man/man4/textdump.4 3 Aug 2008 14:14:43 -0000 1.5 +++ src/share/man/man4/textdump.4 3 Dec 2008 19:17:23 -0000 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/textdump.4,v 1.5 2008/08/03 14:14:43 rwatson Exp $ .\" -.Dd December 26, 2007 +.Dd December 3, 2008 .Dt textdump 4 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -148,10 +148,15 @@ .Bd -literal -offset indent script kdb.enter.witness=show locks .Ed +.Pp +These scripts may also be configured from userspace using the +.Xr ddb 8 +command. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr bsdtar 1 , .Xr ddb 4 , .Xr tar 5 , +.Xr ddb 8 , .Xr dumpon 8 , .Xr savecore 8 , .Xr sysctl 8 --- 20081203-manpages-ddb.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:30:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F971065678 for ; 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Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A698F8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3KOMHJ018599 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:24:22 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB3KOMqK018598; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:24:22 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Message-Id: <200812032024.mB3KOMqK018598@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:24:22 GMT From: Gavin Atkinson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/129400: [patch] Remove comments that have snook into three man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gavin Atkinson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:30:01 -0000 >Number: 129400 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] Remove comments that have snook into three man pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 03 20:30:00 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gavin Atkinson >Release: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #35: Sun Oct 12 12:45:36 UTC 2008 simon@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/FREEFALL i386 >Description: Only three man pages include a comment about bumping .Dd for inon-trivial changes, this is left over from (presumaby) when the man page was created from a clone of the example man pages which also include this comment. Given only three real manpages include it, it may as well be removed - the chance that one of these three man pages is the page somebody edits without understanding .Dd is pretty slim, and it also helps to bring these into the style of all other man pages. Don't bump .Dd as it's a trivial change :) >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- 20081201-manpage-date-comment.diff begins here --- Index: src/lib/libc/db/man/dbm.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/db/man/dbm.3,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 dbm.3 --- src/lib/libc/db/man/dbm.3 16 Apr 2006 16:33:26 -0000 1.9 +++ src/lib/libc/db/man/dbm.3 1 Dec 2008 22:40:12 -0000 @@ -15,8 +15,6 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/lib/libc/db/man/dbm.3,v 1.9 2006/04/16 16:33:26 maxim Exp $ .\" -.\" Note: The date here should be updated whenever a non-trivial -.\" change is made to the manual page. .Dd April 16, 2006 .Dt DBM 3 .Os Index: src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot.8,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 pxeboot.8 --- src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot.8 7 Oct 2006 10:39:34 -0000 1.8 +++ src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot.8 1 Dec 2008 22:40:19 -0000 @@ -24,8 +24,6 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot.8,v 1.8 2006/10/07 10:39:34 pav Exp $ .\" -.\" Note: The date here should be updated whenever a non-trivial -.\" change is made to the manual page. .Dd May 1, 2000 .Dt PXEBOOT 8 .Os Index: src/usr.sbin/gssd/gssd.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/gssd/gssd.8,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 gssd.8 --- src/usr.sbin/gssd/gssd.8 5 Nov 2008 09:42:05 -0000 1.2 +++ src/usr.sbin/gssd/gssd.8 1 Dec 2008 22:40:26 -0000 @@ -25,8 +25,6 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/gssd/gssd.8,v 1.2 2008/11/05 09:42:05 keramida Exp $ .\" -.\" Note: The date here should be updated whenever a non-trivial -.\" change is made to the manual page. .Dd November 5, 2008 .Dt GSSD 8 .Os --- 20081201-manpage-date-comment.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 21:26:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47E5106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CB78FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1981480nfh.33 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nliKx7Q+LaRaGuxW8B7CQx+GShJKXQT6IzlyYDh2I7I=; b=ehX1DC0NX8F5R4RtYu4S43lPHzlSCcwqZGZ2Py0nVJ/d9+c7eCL0nBDqE/46MT6IQa 63deTTnzsciNEOL7DoB4a+AUAT56/DK5y5Bu1Qchsh9TFFtUK4mMuA07O5JfmKxuJCNv LfrA/ZLxkx2CBgfXxXo1XKIRRmrNesJc2xuHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qzn8XoPBDc4oIK70zDTcBBZLPnmk8S0HbrFI1Rw4qzyjpcyAwy6r/T6sUDWoSlG/ZD cUdt3Txb5eX77e8Dy+W+W7SnMAx6PwXubQa8BxqgSd7LITddAEAM9tHwf8zKRDoyfJwI 6/FeQ9FLC62TUX+gYmEu2P60jREidFS7+uEcQ= Received: by 10.210.81.10 with SMTP id e10mr15849317ebb.122.1228339560318; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-285755.home.otenet.gr [85.73.163.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c24sm7857436ika.9.2008.12.03.13.25.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:25:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4936F963.7040201@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:25:55 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor PALI References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> <49359EA1.3080600@gmail.com> <4936E15E.8000804@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4936E15E.8000804@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:26:02 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> I like the improvements too :) >> If I were to make a few changes (at the edge of these being doc-bikesheds): >> > > Absolutely not, it IS suggested by the FDP Primer [1]: > > ``Avoid redundant phrases > > Try not to use redundant phrases. In particular, "the command", "the > file", and "man command" are probably redundant.'' > > > Hopefully, I will reach this section of the FDP Primer in the Hungarian > translation soon :) Thanks for the comment! > > > I fixed the parts in question, so you can proof-check the results here: > > (in HTML:) > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH > > (in unified diff format:) > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/splash.screen.section.patch.diff > > > Regards, > :g > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/writing-style.html > > Looks fine to me! I also tested the procedure on my Aspire One. Got the "may the source be with you" splash up in no time at all ;) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 00:03:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E82B106564A; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2261F8FC20; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4034ng039583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:03:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:03:00 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20081203190300.550255b5.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4936F963.7040201@gmail.com> References: <493155ED.8020004@FreeBSD.org> <49316309.1050407@gmail.com> <49330A66.8040801@FreeBSD.org> <20081201091730.0ef555fa.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <49359784.504@FreeBSD.org> <49359EA1.3080600@gmail.com> <4936E15E.8000804@FreeBSD.org> <4936F963.7040201@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFR: A "Boot Time Splash Screens" Section to the Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:03:10 -0000 On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:25:55 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > >> I like the improvements too :) > >> If I were to make a few changes (at the edge of these being doc-bikesheds): > >> > > > > Absolutely not, it IS suggested by the FDP Primer [1]: > > > > ``Avoid redundant phrases > > > > Try not to use redundant phrases. In particular, "the command", "the > > file", and "man command" are probably redundant.'' > > > > > > Hopefully, I will reach this section of the FDP Primer in the Hungarian > > translation soon :) Thanks for the comment! > > > > > > I fixed the parts in question, so you can proof-check the results here: > > > > (in HTML:) > > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/html/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-SPLASH > > > > (in unified diff format:) > > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/03/splash.screen.section.patch.diff > > > > > > Regards, > > :g > > > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/writing-style.html > > > > > Looks fine to me! > I also tested the procedure on my Aspire One. Got the "may the source be > with you" splash up in no time at all ;) > Yes, this looks pretty good over here too. Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 03:55:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F92F106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@r3portfolio.com) Received: from r3portfolio.com (r3portfolio.com [72.47.194.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273E38FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@r3portfolio.com) Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2008 19:29:04 -0800 Received: from c-67-183-120-17.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO Phobos) (67.183.120.17) by r3portfolio.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 19:29:04 -0800 From: "Richard Raseley" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:27:21 -0800 Message-ID: <000901c955c0$49caf790$dd60e6b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclVwDdVC379J/HcRbizGhD9xOclVg== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Important Omission in FTP Configuration Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:55:46 -0000 Documentation Project Owner, Recently I started my first foray into the world of FreeBSD, thus far I have been pleasantly surprised, but I have also found a document on your site that has an important omission. In this document: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ftp.html In section 30.8.2 "Configuration" you list the steps that are required to get ftpd up and running, however you fail to mention that you also have to add "ftpd_enable="YES" to your "/etc/rc.conf" file and reboot the server. Ftpd will not work until you complete this step and it took me hours (being a n00b) of additional research to figure this out. It would be very helpful if you included this in your documentation so that others like myself can find it easily. Thank you for your continued work, so far (coming from a Windows world) I am very impressed. Best Regards, Richard From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:28:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83A6106568B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DB18FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1726635eyi.7 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:28:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sk4cgb2O3pKhDfnyHhTgJ2WShPqsFwWSJNnuqrzLTlA=; b=hJi1TnS2VGvH2TfX2Yw/mIRuqAB4QP7P/FuNUpZAnQETWvGn5T0452mb+foOmCRcEw ACAgNKKKoiwJkaRoPVy2/4k1NAib/stquAUsph4AF7F3WlpztejErRD6X7/dErf9mnAA aGpOXcD/tOXeohLUVtA59uqkveYcjlDjlECo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wz3ZH5cpD6oMQ+piFT8Dik4qph3VQvvvvJqlQZmKcEYBXXtovzvjI0F348k4KULDdi gf5QRCpQZmCaLVV3JWE0juUFz/TZeetmM20xu/+PxMHzsvk0I/HIMd1gVpv42tKDqhVh tIggmND1V1q0yraRGITN8pAK/8NDBEAqHoKY4= Received: by 10.210.81.10 with SMTP id e10mr16607578ebb.122.1228404495314; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-316593.home.otenet.gr [85.72.92.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm8747907ika.7.2008.12.04.07.28.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:28:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4937F70B.6090901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:28:11 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Raseley References: <000901c955c0$49caf790$dd60e6b0$@com> In-Reply-To: <000901c955c0$49caf790$dd60e6b0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Important Omission in FTP Configuration Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:28:17 -0000 Richard Raseley wrote: > Documentation Project Owner, > > > > Recently I started my first foray into the world of FreeBSD, thus far I have > been pleasantly surprised, but I have also found a document on your site > that has an important omission. > > > > In this document: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ftp.html > > > > In section 30.8.2 "Configuration" you list the steps that are required to > get ftpd up and running, however you fail to mention that you also have to > add "ftpd_enable="YES" to your "/etc/rc.conf" file and reboot the server. > > > > Ftpd will not work until you complete this step and it took me hours (being > a n00b) of additional research to figure this out. It would be very helpful > if you included this in your documentation so that others like myself can > find it easily. > > > > Thank you for your continued work, so far (coming from a Windows world) I am > very impressed. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Richard > > First of all, thanks for helping us improve our documentation! The problem with your setup is that you probably missed enabling the inetd server. This is not mentioned explicitly in the section you were reading, but it is mentioned in section 30.2.2. If you add inetd_enable="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf and reboot, and having followed the rest of the instructions, your ftp server will be started (when needed) by inetd. To make things clear, I have added a reference to section 30.2.2 in section 30.8.2 By adding ftpd_enable="YES", the ftp server is started in stand-alone mode. The inetd setting is not required in this case. I have also added a few lines on this alternate way of starting ftpd. These changes will appear on the website in the next 24 hours. Thanks for submitting this! manolis@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 18:13:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4449106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from froc@list.ru) Received: from mx44.mail.ru (mx44.mail.ru [195.239.211.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D28FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from froc@list.ru) Received: from f88.mail.ru (f88.mail.ru [194.67.57.148]) by mx44.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id E159738006FD4 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:28:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail by f88.mail.ru with local id 1L8Hzh-000Fbv-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:28:05 +0300 Received: from [89.28.16.146] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:28:05 +0300 From: Alex Robinovici To: doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [89.28.16.146] Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:28:05 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:32:35 +0000 Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Robinovici List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:13:57 -0000 Good evening! Where it is possible to download the documentation on FreeBSD in archives? The reference <> on a site www.freebsd.org Does not work. ------------------------------------------------------- ! FreeBSD ? <> www.freebsd.org . From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 18:44:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FE9106567D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C008FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so3768053ika.3 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:44:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BeBzPVe2IPdTxJgLeCqaPuZb7B2txjlw1a03jrSSByM=; b=pCvHmS64prMYJdA+tEKJtNdPgCvHwKOb9V9YtoQ3GGq2XTeox5asAeUbVesaSef+cR SN8QBcM65V9c6n9+jBtnpRhWvg5ltiQasdW039ffA9KXvlvSEpuEpChN2wOR09kbMS96 gv0glnGZg+wMHVeDD8UEj6CC6OnaiYEnxp7bs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UUexkifDS5+0U5qRRF+so3KuFabqLWYJLS5lER9TCJkuJf7sqaRRV7L6TiRAo5UPtv D4cLtx1Ubyv4LUTRoA3Aa2yU6byAhczhtJrHhAGVOaOJ+wKTisVhDbzv64y5Vhq/48vk AGyGuNgMwueYOsFqJgC90l4Ka4n5KZ7uZe6D8= Received: by 10.210.129.10 with SMTP id b10mr16703539ebd.121.1228416239510; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-316593.home.otenet.gr [85.72.92.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z34sm8853962ikz.10.2008.12.04.10.43.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:43:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <493824EA.4050509@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:43:54 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Robinovici References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Documentation Download (was: Re: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:44:02 -0000 Alex Robinovici wrote: > Good evening! > > Where it is possible to download the documentation on FreeBSD in archives? > > The reference <> on a site > > www.freebsd.org Does not work. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ! > > FreeBSD ? > > <> > > www.freebsd.org . > > > > It works fine here. For example, try the following direct link to the English handbook in zipped pdf format: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.zip Failing that, you could also try a mirror site, i.e: ftp://ftp.uk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.zip In fact, here is a list of mirror sites you can try: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 00:07:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2E1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960208FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C1414D7820; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:07:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5G9kYqSiTE-3; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-156-89.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.156.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA40014D7816; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:07:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:07:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:07:08 -0000 Marc Fonvieille escribi: > Hello, > > Currently, it's difficult for the average user to update his docs. > Most of time, the docs are installed during OS install time and are > never updated. > Another problem is the fact the doc build requires a lot of diskspace > and a lot of time on slow architectures/CPUs/etc which is a problem > during release process. > > To sum up, we're lacking of a simple way to install and update docs > without any compilation operation. Hello Marc, I think it is a very good idea. It can happen that someone can't go online to check the documentation so it would be really useful to have a method to install the docs easily. Thanks for working on this! > > These packages provide html-split version (of course other formats are > possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 docset. > Another thing to note, the packages install docs in > /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd > Maybe you could also add an option (like OVERWRITE_BASE or something like that) to install them to the usual /usr/share/doc location. In this way, we could avoid duplication between the base and the ports version and keep using the path we got used to. It is not very smart to install things outside from /usr/local, but I think it can be useful in some cases and this particular is such one. A couple of other ports also do this (like BIND, OpenSSH, etc.). Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org WWW: http://www.kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:13:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770BC1065676; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC968FC1A; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB51DX2s063026; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mB51DQj9064690; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:58:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20081205.095843.138450898.hrs@allbsd.org> To: pgj@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <4933B2E8.10507@FreeBSD.org> <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:13:45 +0900 (JST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:13:46 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc Fonvieille wrote in <20081201103533.GC1330@gothic.blackend.org>: bl> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:48:24AM +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: bl> > Marc Fonvieille wrote: bl> > > I'm working since a while on ports for doc [..] and tell me if you bl> > > like it :) bl> > bl> > I think generally it is a good idea to reanimate the concept bl> > documentation packages, however last time I asked about them (May 2008, bl> > while fixing the FAQ), I got an interesting answer [1] from Hiroki Sato: bl> > bl> > "The doc packages are no longer available because the past discussion bl> > reached a consensus that generating them is a bit tricky and most of bl> > people do not need such packages because the latest documentation is bl> > always available on the web." bl> > bl> [...] bl> bl> But you cut the last sentence :) bl> bl> Yes, it was difficult to maintain them and we had no real solution to bl> continue to provide them. It's true that the doc is available via the bl> web, but as I said the aim is not only provide packages to the user but bl> also modernize the doc installation and build for the releases. bl> Now, I have a working solution that can be updated, etc. without bl> headaches, so we may have to rethink about the current situation. Ah, I certainly wrote the reply to Gabor in May. It is true that the old packages are deprecated for the reason as I explained. However, I do not think generating doc packages itself is a bad thing. The difficulty of the old packages is that they were not from the Ports Collection. I mean they did not have any corresponding ports, so upgrading cannot be done in a straightforward way. Using ports for the doc packages can eliminate the tricky part of the old ones and make the release distribution set simple. I believe it is the right direction. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkk4fMMACgkQTyzT2CeTzy0oSACfSKY4+J67rOezGJC0g6y4rNME F3wAnRM0I9oR+9OyLvkQzVOfF9WfmrFm =4iIl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_09_58_43_2008_346)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:14:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9201065672; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C958FC16; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB51DfOc063027; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mB51DQjB064690; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:13:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:12:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20081205.101257.142333304.hrs@allbsd.org> To: gabor@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org> References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_10_12_57_2008_833)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:13:53 +0900 (JST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marc@blackend.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:14:04 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_10_12_57_2008_833)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n wrote in <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org>: ga> Marc Fonvieille escribi=F3: ga> > These packages provide html-split version (of course other format= s are ga> > possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 doc= set. ga> > Another thing to note, the packages install docs in ga> > /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd ga> > = ga> Maybe you could also add an option (like OVERWRITE_BASE or somethin= g ga> like that) to install them to the usual /usr/share/doc location. In= ga> this way, we could avoid duplication between the base and the ports= ga> version and keep using the path we got used to. It is not very smar= t ga> to install things outside from /usr/local, but I think it can be ga> useful in some cases and this particular is such one. A couple of ga> other ports also do this (like BIND, OpenSSH, etc.). You have a point, but I prefer eliminating our documentation set from /usr/share/doc and make the doc set can be installed from the pre-compiled packages, not tarball which uses /usr/share/doc, like Xorg to avoid such duplication in the future releases. -- = | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_10_12_57_2008_833)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkk4gBkACgkQTyzT2CeTzy0HKwCglhVe460MNQezXX2bn8WmJHPl LgYAoNrmYUmAXe6suDuaYz6P7VIcixVM =9aaN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Dec__5_10_12_57_2008_833)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:20:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1880B1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45528FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E99314D7141; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:20:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id w+x2ZoDqczwE; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:20:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-156-89.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.156.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83DA014D7133; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:20:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493881F7.9020706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:20:55 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org> <20081205.101257.142333304.hrs@allbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20081205.101257.142333304.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marc@blackend.org Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:20:59 -0000 Hiroki Sato escribi: > Gbor Kvesdn wrote > in <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org>: > > ga> Marc Fonvieille escribi: > ga> > These packages provide html-split version (of course other formats are > ga> > possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 docset. > ga> > Another thing to note, the packages install docs in > ga> > /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd > ga> > > ga> Maybe you could also add an option (like OVERWRITE_BASE or something > ga> like that) to install them to the usual /usr/share/doc location. In > ga> this way, we could avoid duplication between the base and the ports > ga> version and keep using the path we got used to. It is not very smart > ga> to install things outside from /usr/local, but I think it can be > ga> useful in some cases and this particular is such one. A couple of > ga> other ports also do this (like BIND, OpenSSH, etc.). > > You have a point, but I prefer eliminating our documentation set from > /usr/share/doc and make the doc set can be installed from the > pre-compiled packages, not tarball which uses /usr/share/doc, like > Xorg to avoid such duplication in the future releases. > Yes, that seems even better. I agree with your idea. Although it wouldn't be nice to leave any installed system without documentation if it is not explicitly intended by the user. Maybe doc packages should be installed automatically during the installation just like Perl? Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org WWW: http://www.kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:50:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142191065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71688FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB51o0P9080894 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:50:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB51o0Vg080893; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:50:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200812050150.mB51o0Vg080893@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Stephen Allen Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D941065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D228FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB51ergl049391 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:40:53 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB51erH9049371; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:40:53 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200812050140.mB51erH9049371@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:40:53 GMT From: Stephen Allen To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/129428: ntp.conf(5) is incorrect - you can only use IP address on restrict lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:50:02 -0000 >Number: 129428 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ntp.conf(5) is incorrect - you can only use IP address on restrict lines >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 05 01:50:00 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen Allen >Release: 7.0 >Organization: Oxford Brookes University >Environment: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Mon Nov 24 10:59:10 UTC 2008 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >Description: In the section "Access Control Commands --> restrict", it says: "The address argument expressed in dotted-quad form is the address of a host or network. Alternatively, the address argument can be a valid host DNS name." I have found that the address argument MUST be an ip address only - it doesn't work with a valid host DNS name. 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IQube is one of the Nordic r= egion=B4s leading centres for entrepreneurship and early stage growth compa= nies. www.iqube.se Dabber's development continues at rapid pace= We're still in development, but feel free to contact us in the meanwhile, o= r check out our web site for updates! www.dabber.tv daniel [at] dabber.tv +46 736 26 9985 To unsubscribe, please forward this email to unsubscribe@dabber.tv From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 06:29:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242EE1065672; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCB68FC18; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mB56TM07077380; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:29:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id mB56TM4p077379; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:29:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:29:22 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= Message-ID: <20081205062922.GA77328@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= , Hiroki Sato , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20081201080917.GA1330@gothic.blackend.org> <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org> <20081205.101257.142333304.hrs@allbsd.org> <493881F7.9020706@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <493881F7.9020706@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: [Sort of RFC] Ports and packages for docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:29:26 -0000 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:20:55AM +0100, Gbor Kvesdn wrote: > Hiroki Sato escribi: > >Gbor Kvesdn wrote > > in <493870A9.6050604@FreeBSD.org>: > > > >ga> Marc Fonvieille escribi: > >ga> > These packages provide html-split version (of course other formats > >are > >ga> > possible, I just want to limit the bandwidth) of the 20081130 docset. > >ga> > Another thing to note, the packages install docs in > >ga> > /usr/local/share/doc/freebsd > >ga> > > >ga> Maybe you could also add an option (like OVERWRITE_BASE or something > >ga> like that) to install them to the usual /usr/share/doc location. In > >ga> this way, we could avoid duplication between the base and the ports > >ga> version and keep using the path we got used to. It is not very smart > >ga> to install things outside from /usr/local, but I think it can be > >ga> useful in some cases and this particular is such one. A couple of > >ga> other ports also do this (like BIND, OpenSSH, etc.). > > > > You have a point, but I prefer eliminating our documentation set from > > /usr/share/doc and make the doc set can be installed from the > > pre-compiled packages, not tarball which uses /usr/share/doc, like > > Xorg to avoid such duplication in the future releases. > > > Yes, that seems even better. I agree with your idea. Although it > wouldn't be nice to leave any installed system without documentation if > it is not explicitly intended by the user. Maybe doc packages should be > installed automatically during the installation just like Perl? > We plan to have a selection menu for the docs with en_US language selected by default and the possibility to add more languages, a bit like it was the case for Xorg. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:20:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874461065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6395B8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB63K1ZT055748 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB63K1cR055747; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:20:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200812060320.mB63K1cR055747@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Kenyon Ralph Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA2B106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD988FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB63IgSp086351 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:18:42 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB63IgCa086350; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:18:42 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200812060318.mB63IgCa086350@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:18:42 GMT From: Kenyon Ralph To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/129448: loader(8) manpage typo: two init_script listings, the second one should be init_shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:20:01 -0000 >Number: 129448 >Category: docs >Synopsis: loader(8) manpage typo: two init_script listings, the second one should be init_shell >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 06 03:20:01 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kenyon Ralph >Release: 8-current >Organization: >Environment: >Description: See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=loader&manpath=FreeBSD+8-current In the BUILTIN ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES section, init_script is listed twice. The second one should be init_shell. See also /boot/defaults/loader.conf to verify. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Replace second init_script with init_shell. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:24:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28FD1065676 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DDF8FC23 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB63OP4R088435 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:24:25 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB63OPru088434 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:24:25 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:24:25 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060324.mB63OPru088434@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:24:25 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 15.07 real 11.67 user 1.69 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:53:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB67106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DB48FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB63rU5f097603 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:53:30 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB63rTjt097602 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:53:29 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:53:29 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060353.mB63rTjt097602@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:53:30 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 15.54 real 10.92 user 2.39 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 04:24:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065DE1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831D8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB64OUma004869 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:24:30 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB64OU0v004868 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:24:30 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:24:30 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060424.mB64OU0v004868@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:24:31 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 15.00 real 11.50 user 1.66 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 04:53:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6089A1065675 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513878FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB64rZ6P011828 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:53:35 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB64rZgc011827 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:53:35 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:53:35 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060453.mB64rZgc011827@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:53:35 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 14.62 real 11.53 user 1.90 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 05:23:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEF71065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC0B8FC18 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB65NTP4017908 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:23:29 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB65NT64017907 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:23:29 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:23:29 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060523.mB65NT64017907@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:23:29 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 15.13 real 11.35 user 1.67 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 05:53:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095AB1065688 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE31C8FC20 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB65rR5p021519 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:53:27 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB65rRxK021518 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:53:27 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:53:27 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060553.mB65rRxK021518@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:53:28 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 14.40 real 11.21 user 2.22 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 06:23:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F501106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12DC8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB66NSeG025795 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:23:28 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB66NSNo025758 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:23:28 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:23:28 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200812060623.mB66NSNo025758@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:23:29 -0000 ? relnotes7/doc/share/sgml/dev-auto.sgml ===> FAQ ===> advocacy ===> commercial ===> community ===> copyright ===> developers ===> docproj ===> docs ===> donations ===> events ===> events/2002 ===> events/2003 ===> gnome ===> gnome/docs ===> gnome/images ===> handbook ===> internal /usr/bin/perl5 /w/www/build/www/en/internal/homepage.pl > homepage.inc /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' homepage.sgml > homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/internal homepage.sgml-tmp > homepage.html || (/bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp homepage.html && false) /bin/rm -f homepage.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml homepage.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> java ===> java/dists ===> java/docs ===> java/links ===> kse ===> marketing ===> multimedia (test -d output || /bin/mkdir output ) && cd output && /bin/ln -fs ../Makefile.output Makefile && ( for f in multimedia.sgml.intro multimedia.sgml.post multimedia.sgml.pre multimedia.html.intro multimedia.html.post multimedia.html.pre multimedia-input.xml; do /bin/ln -fs ../$f $f; done ) && /usr/bin/perl5 -Tw ../multimedia.pl && /bin/rm -f *.html cd output && make all DIRPRFX=multimedia/output/ "/w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output/../../..//share/mk/web.site.mk", line 349: warning: Missing closing parenthesis for exists() /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' multimedia.sgml > multimedia.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output multimedia.sgml-tmp > multimedia.html || (/bin/rm -f multimedia.sgml-tmp multimedia.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:249:70:E: general entity "type" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:938:33:E: general entity "D" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:67:E: general entity "do" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:multimedia.sgml-tmp:1164:74:E: general entity "target" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia/output. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/multimedia. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 14.46 real 10.10 user 2.95 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 11:16:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDED1065677; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137028FC1A; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (danger@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB6BG3Xv053640; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:16:03 GMT (envelope-from danger@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from danger@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB6BG3cJ053636; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:16:03 GMT (envelope-from danger) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:16:03 GMT Message-Id: <200812061116.mB6BG3cJ053636@freefall.freebsd.org> To: danger@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, danger@FreeBSD.org From: danger@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129448: loader(8) manpage typo: two init_script listings, the second one should be init_shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:16:04 -0000 Synopsis: loader(8) manpage typo: two init_script listings, the second one should be init_shell Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->danger Responsible-Changed-By: danger Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Dec 6 11:15:46 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129448 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 15:30:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557EE1065673 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DE88FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB6FU8fl043872 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:30:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB6FU869043864; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:30:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:30:08 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200812061530.mB6FU869043864@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, guillaume Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246AE1065678 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147278FC1F for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB6FTB9V024943 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:29:11 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB6FTBEd024942; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:29:11 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200812061529.mB6FTBEd024942@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:29:11 GMT From: guillaume To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/129464: using packages system X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:30:08 -0000 >Number: 129464 >Category: docs >Synopsis: using packages system >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Dec 06 15:30:07 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: guillaume >Release: 7.0 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD ordi1.guigui.net 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: in the FreeBSD handbook, 4.4 (Using the Packages System), pkg_add and pkg_delete are obsolete commands to manage packages. it's quasi-impossible to control requirements packages with these commands. when a beginner read the handbook, he lost a lot of hours before he understand that (if, by miracle, he doesn't give up FreeBSD). >How-To-Repeat: see above. >Fix: the good commands are portupgrade and pkg_deinstall. the portupgrade tool must be natively integrated in FreeBSD. example of procedure: 1) it's better to have PACKAGESITE to the last stable branch by default, no? 2) install port collection with csup 3) clean database with pkgdb -aF (is it necessary after the port collection install?) 4) to install the xfce package: portinstall -RPP xfce 5) to upgrade the xfce package: portupgrade -RPP xfce 6) to delete the xfce package: pkg_deinstall -r xfce PS: it's not convenient to install the port collection if one only use packages. a solution to this will be good for the future... >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: