From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 00:12:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C90106566B for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8F58FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from localhost (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0JX200402TWCGXI0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:12:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:12:14 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-id: <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:12:52 -0000 On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution running like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this? Please respond to my email address also. > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number of > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unneeded > plug-ins. > > Joe > > -- > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing to the linux loader? From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 00:20:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BF81065673 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107488FC22 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 00:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m220LUY5070852; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:21:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "E. J. Cerejo" In-Reply-To: <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JucU2nQPSb/F5YznIEE6" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:20:59 -0000 --=-JucU2nQPSb/F5YznIEE6 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evolution= takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run it from= terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thinking t= hat it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, I've g= ot ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds to star= t, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution running lik= e this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this? Ple= ase respond to my email address also. > >=20 > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number of > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unneeded > > plug-ins. > >=20 > > Joe > >=20 > > --=20 > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc >=20 > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, all the = plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are you t= rying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing to the = linux loader? No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes longer than the ones performed by the Linux loader. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-JucU2nQPSb/F5YznIEE6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkfJ8t4ACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4d6BgCfTdGs33XylJXHz7FdybbcElkm eX8AnRMOOEUG8u5q8G8q6gwAaG3GlsL3 =mKh0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JucU2nQPSb/F5YznIEE6-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 01:47:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D631065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3308FC15 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from localhost (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0JX2009TUY9NAHK0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:46:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:46:37 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-id: <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:47:24 -0000 On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution running like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number of > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unneeded > > > plug-ins. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > -- > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing to the linux loader? > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes longer > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open that's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm concerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts about the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's no real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's the case evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 02:22:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8001065671 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39C88FC15 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m222MbpZ071591; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:22:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "E. J. Cerejo" In-Reply-To: <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pSaKgOiLdh6uIWuHQgXj" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:22:01 -0000 --=-pSaKgOiLdh6uIWuHQgXj Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evolu= tion takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run it = from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thinki= ng that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, I'= ve got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds to = start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution running= like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this? = Please respond to my email address also. > > > >=20 > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number of > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unnee= ded > > > > plug-ins. > > > >=20 > > > > Joe > > > >=20 > > > > --=20 > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > >=20 > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, all = the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are y= ou trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing to = the linux loader? > >=20 > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes longer > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. >=20 > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open that'= s a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm concern= ed evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts about th= e real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's no re= al reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's the case= evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. You're free to build Evolution and e-d-s with debugging symbols, and watch it load in gdb if you don't believe me. Last time I did this, I found most of the time spent in the loader. Any optimizations would certainly be welcome. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-pSaKgOiLdh6uIWuHQgXj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkfKD0EACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4cwOwCgiUtYmS4YKSubs9fD2O8xImEm UIYAnRSObdJpB8xW01RfjCPgzoH/5py6 =XwXT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-pSaKgOiLdh6uIWuHQgXj-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 06:10:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A111065670; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F71C8FC19; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (edwin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m226A9vh069097; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:10:09 GMT (envelope-from edwin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from edwin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m226A9Ge069093; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:10:09 GMT (envelope-from edwin) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:10:09 GMT Message-Id: <200803020610.m226A9Ge069093@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: edwin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121279: [patch] bsd.gnome.mk - throw warning when bsd.gnome.mk isn't included properly. 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X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JVkjH-0007Zl-4N 2d0e31afff015925bee46546dca49384 Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:59:20 -0000 On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution running like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number of > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unneeded > > > > plug-ins. > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing to the linux loader? > > > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes longer > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. > > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open that's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm concerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts about the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's no real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's the case evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. For me evolution takes 3 minutes and 20 seconds to start up... It's sick....can't use it anymore. ofcourse it's a "bug", from ~8 seconds to minutes with the same setup... ..sad From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 17:33:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD09C1065675 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3E8FC2A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080302173326.GHEL25565.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:33:26 -0500 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id wHZ91Y00Y4iy4EG0000000; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:33:10 -0500 To: tesolarisc From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204451175.2102.1.camel@zeus.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:34:49 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1204451175.2102.1.camel@zeus.se> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.26 (Linux) Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:33:27 -0000 On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:46:15 -0600, tesolarisc wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 >> Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> >> > >> > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 >> > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why >> evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if >> I run it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded >> to 7.0 thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What >> amazes me is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only >> takes 3 seconds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in >> windows. Evolution running like this is completely worthless. Any >> ideas what might be causing this? Please respond to my email address >> also. >> > > > >> > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number >> of >> > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is >> > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all >> unneeded >> > > > plug-ins. >> > > > >> > > > Joe >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc >> > > >> > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, >> all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 >> seconds. Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of >> primitive comparing to the linux loader? >> > >> > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes >> longer >> > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. >> >> Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open >> that's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far >> I'm concerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my >> doubts about the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In >> reality there's no real reason as to why a program will take so long to >> open, if that's the case evolution will loose a lot of users in the >> FreeBSD community. > For me evolution takes 3 minutes and 20 seconds to start up... > It's sick....can't use it anymore. > > ofcourse it's a "bug", from ~8 seconds to minutes with the same setup... > ..sad How exactly the 'me too' is going to help us? -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 23:24:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536A11065672 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jylefort@brutele.be) Received: from mirapoint3.brutele.be (mirapoint3.brutele.be [212.68.199.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99AC8FC1E for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jylefort@brutele.be) Received: from host-212-68-242-60.brutele.be (host-212-68-242-60.brutele.be [212.68.242.60]) by mirapoint3.brutele.be (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id AMJ29464; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:12:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5A7550D; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:12:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jsite.lefort.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 458631E0163; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:12:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:12:37 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-Id: <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> In-Reply-To: <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_00_12_37_+0100_F27z3DLArHZr3S./" X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mirapoint3.brutele.be X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0208.47CB3468.00DA,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=212.68.242.60, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 Cc: "E. J. Cerejo" , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:24:33 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_00_12_37_+0100_F27z3DLArHZr3S./ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:54 -0500 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why evo= lution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run i= t from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 thin= king that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is, = I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds t= o start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution runni= ng like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing this= ? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > >=20 > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The number = of > > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader is > > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all unn= eeded > > > > > plug-ins. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Joe > > > > >=20 > > > > > --=20 > > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > >=20 > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, al= l the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. Are= you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing t= o the linux loader? > > >=20 > > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes long= er > > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. > >=20 > > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open tha= t's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm conce= rned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts about = the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's no = real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's the ca= se evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. >=20 > You're free to build Evolution and e-d-s with debugging symbols, and > watch it load in gdb if you don't believe me. Last time I did this, I > found most of the time spent in the loader. Any optimizations would > certainly be welcome. I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on performance. Unfortunately, the affected maintainer has closed the PR, mainly because he could not understand it. And portmgr has backed the maintainer, mainly because of personal friendship. With such irrational behaviours, this trend is not going to reverse itself anytime soon: http://www.google.com/trends?q=3Dubuntu%2Cfreebsd --=20 Jean-Yves Lefort --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_00_12_37_+0100_F27z3DLArHZr3S./ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHyzRmyzD7UaO4AGoRAqsyAJ9+89KpHZwpTBfEAK6BKmYMXXDGMQCbBMap p10N3nzSlz8xKhZmlkqbvoI= =rjH4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_00_12_37_+0100_F27z3DLArHZr3S./-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 00:31:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99E41065674 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE858FC1A for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m230WIbh081605; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:32:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Jean-Yves Lefort In-Reply-To: <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/ZCAGtfPOZsT4X3mO4NB" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:31:34 -0500 Message-Id: <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:31:44 -0000 --=-/ZCAGtfPOZsT4X3mO4NB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 00:12 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:54 -0500 > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why e= volution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I run= it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 th= inking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me is= , I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 seconds= to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution run= ning like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing th= is? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The numbe= r of > > > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loader = is > > > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all u= nneeded > > > > > > plug-ins. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Joe > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > --=20 > > > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > > >=20 > > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu, = all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. A= re you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive comparing= to the linux loader? > > > >=20 > > > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes lo= nger > > > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. > > >=20 > > > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open t= hat's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm con= cerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts abou= t the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's n= o real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's the = case evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. > >=20 > > You're free to build Evolution and e-d-s with debugging symbols, and > > watch it load in gdb if you don't believe me. Last time I did this, I > > found most of the time spent in the loader. Any optimizations would > > certainly be welcome. >=20 > I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 >=20 > Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the > SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing > the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on > performance. This is what mezz suspected as well, and I believe he will test this. >=20 > Unfortunately, the affected maintainer has closed the PR, mainly > because he could not understand it. And portmgr has backed the > maintainer, mainly because of personal friendship. We did not side with ade out of friendship. We had to weigh the benefit of this patch against the benefit of having a dedicated autotools maintainer. Since autotools is quite complex, but very critical to a large number of ports, and since we didn't have people lining up to be autotools maintainers, we opted to respect ade's maintainership of libtool, and his decision. I don't think you would like it very much if portmgr told you that you had to commit something to a port that you maintained. Personally, I like your patch. I was a big supported (and user) of ltverhack as well. There are quite a few things I would like to see committed to FreeBSD (e.g. this patch, pthread changes, etc.) but I have to respect the wishes of the maintainers of those subsystems as I could not, nor would not be able to, do a better job. >=20 > With such irrational behaviours, this trend is not going to reverse > itself anytime soon: >=20 > http://www.google.com/trends?q=3Dubuntu%2Cfreebsd I think portmgr's decision was rational (at least my vote was done rationally). I'm sorry this has driven a wedge between you and FreeBSD. I for one really appreciate all you contributed to the FreeBSD GNOME project, and to GNOME in general. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-/ZCAGtfPOZsT4X3mO4NB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkfLRuUACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4dLywCdHQXf9ahob8M8esMcZKDqPCdA /eAAoIOhhhBb9JitplA+TyKFykEmC1o8 =HCVD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/ZCAGtfPOZsT4X3mO4NB-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 06:51:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB611065670; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF968FC13; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m236pH6C097887; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:51:17 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m236pGfq097883; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:51:16 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:51:16 GMT Message-Id: <200803030651.m236pGfq097883@freefall.freebsd.org> To: truckman@FreeBSD.org, linimon@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/115023: inconsistency in XML catalog location X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:51:17 -0000 Synopsis: inconsistency in XML catalog location State-Changed-From-To: feedback->suspended State-Changed-By: linimon State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 3 06:50:37 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: The problem has been worked around, but the workaround apparently needs to be documented. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115023 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 11:07:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800E510657E4 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1528FC21 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m23B7RhD022370 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:07:27 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m23B7Qbv022366 for gnome@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:07:26 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:07:26 GMT Message-Id: <200803031107.m23B7Qbv022366@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to gnome@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:07:27 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/114986 gnome when LC_CTYPE is set to zh_CN.UTF-8, many gnome apps w a ports/117724 gnome Recently updated x11/gdm port ignores $LANG setting in o ports/118514 gnome [Patch] www/epiphany: Fix plist and add WebKit support o ports/121094 gnome www/firefox will not start o ports/121263 gnome www/firefox: Firefox coredumps under FreeBSD 6.3 in Pr o ports/121279 gnome [patch] bsd.gnome.mk - throw warning when bsd.gnome.mk 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/103529 gnome www/seamonkey: enable SVG and Pango font rendering sup s ports/108364 gnome [patch] x11-toolkits/gtk20: plist problem with icons d s ports/115023 gnome inconsistency in XML catalog location o ports/116236 gnome [patch] Shoot yourself in the foot fix for www/firefox o ports/116263 gnome x11-toolkits/gtk20: reduce X deps o ports/118129 gnome sysutils/tracker core dumps on startup on amd64 o ports/118133 gnome mail/evolution: email crashes when sorting by Subject o ports/118512 gnome [New port] www/webkit-gtk o ports/119050 gnome audio/gnome-media 2.20.1 gnome-cd player widgets look o ports/119892 gnome nautilus stops responding when trying to access smbfs o ports/120053 gnome [PATCH] x11-wm/sawfish: Update to 1.3.2 11 problems total. From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 11:50:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BA4106566B for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DFB8FC15 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A55014.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.80.20]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7E02E1DD; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:34:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1B942EB; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:34:35 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m23BYYwY061540; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:34:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:34:34 +0100 Message-ID: <20080303123434.cch4vbr34084sg08@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:34:34 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, OPT_OUT 1.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:50:56 -0000 Quoting Joe Marcus Clarke (from Sun, 02 Mar =20 2008 19:31:34 -0500): Summary: the patch in the PR is not at production quality, I =20 understand the portmgr decision, ideally the rejection reason (by Ade =20 and/or portmgr) in the PR should have been more detailed. A long and more detailed answer with improvement suggestions is below... > > On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 00:12 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: >> >> =09http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 >> >> Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the >> SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing >> the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on >> performance. > > This is what mezz suspected as well, and I believe he will test this. As already told to him today in a private discussion: Adding only this =20 patch will not help much (at least it will not directly result in the =20 ideal solution). I experimented with a different patch. My patch =20 changes libtool directly (I discussed this with the libtool =20 maintainers, libtool 1.5 has problems with static linking and maybe =20 cross-compiling when this is done, that's the reason why it is not =20 enabled by default in Linux, Debian has a patch and enables it itself, =20 but this is not sanctioned by the libtool maintainers, libtool 2.0 is =20 supposed to solve the problem, my patch to libtool 1.5 should not be =20 applied, as it will break libtool in a few cases). The result of the patch is, that some libs are not added. This is =20 good. But a lot of ports (X libs, cairo, pango, gtk, ...) add the libs =20 on the link command line, so that those libs get added, even if they =20 are dependencies which can be resolved recursively. To solve this, the =20 corresponding ports need to be changed. Ideally this should happen =20 upstream. pkg-config has support for this (private_libs or something =20 like this), but in a lot of packages this is not used yet. The right =20 fix for this software is to add the indirect dependencies to those =20 private libs stuff in the pkg-config part. When libtool 2.0 hits the =20 tree and is adopted, the problem should vanish then (and we could =20 switch to explicit package dependencies, it would cut down a lot the =20 number of ports to recompile in some situations). >> Unfortunately, the affected maintainer has closed the PR, mainly >> because he could not understand it. And portmgr has backed the >> maintainer, mainly because of personal friendship. > > We did not side with ade out of friendship. We had to weigh the benefit > of this patch against the benefit of having a dedicated autotools > maintainer. Since autotools is quite complex, but very critical to a > large number of ports, and since we didn't have people lining up to be > autotools maintainers, we opted to respect ade's maintainership of > libtool, and his decision. I don't think you would like it very much if > portmgr told you that you had to commit something to a port that you > maintained. But I don't mind if portmgr ask me in such a situation for more =20 details regarding the rejection. Just by looking at the PR (and knowing about the public mails between =20 Ade and jylefort) it _looks_ like Ade has no idea what he is talking =20 about for this particular patch. If he would have added some more =20 words why he thinks that the patch is not ok, then it would look =20 differently. So I can understand the reaction of jylefort. Note, as you can see above, I talked with the libtool maintainers and =20 know the drawbacks of the patch in the PR. It can only be applied to =20 dynamic libs. Static libs and some cross-compiling situations should =20 not be handled with this (personally I would suggest an opt-out knob, =20 but as the patch will not be imported...). In general I don't see =20 major showstoppers for something like this (if libtool itself is not =20 modified), but it will not be as easy as just adding this patch. I =20 expect several experimental port builds and adding of e.g. the above =20 mentioned opt-out knob to some ports, until the patch is at production =20 quality. > Personally, I like your patch. I was a big supported (and user) of > ltverhack as well. There are quite a few things I would like to see > committed to FreeBSD (e.g. this patch, pthread changes, etc.) but I have > to respect the wishes of the maintainers of those subsystems as I could > not, nor would not be able to, do a better job. I can understand your motivation. I don't object to your decision. =20 Nothing I write above is meant to be rude or force someone to do =20 something (just in case someone got up with a bad mood today). Bye, Alexander. --=20 Kiss your keyboard goodbye! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 13:13:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BDA106566B for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jylefort@brutele.be) Received: from mirapoint7.brutele.be (mirapoint7.brutele.be [212.68.199.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5998FC24 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jylefort@brutele.be) Received: from host-212-68-242-60.brutele.be (host-212-68-242-60.brutele.be [212.68.242.60]) by mirapoint7.brutele.be (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JYB71518; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:13:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A70A56D7; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:13:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jsite.lefort.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C879B1E0163; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:13:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:13:13 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-Id: <20080303141313.24f906fb.jylefort@brutele.be> In-Reply-To: <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_14_13_13_+0100_GJiE3QloI=69Tyx9" Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:13:27 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_14_13_13_+0100_GJiE3QloI=69Tyx9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:31:34 -0500 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 00:12 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:54 -0500 > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out why= evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I r= un it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.0 = thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes me = is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 secon= ds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution r= unning like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causing = this? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The num= ber of > > > > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loade= r is > > > > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable all= unneeded > > > > > > > plug-ins. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > --=20 > > > > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubuntu= , all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds. = Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive compari= ng to the linux loader? > > > > >=20 > > > > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs takes = longer > > > > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. > > > >=20 > > > > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to open= that's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm c= oncerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts ab= out the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there's= no real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's th= e case evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. > > >=20 > > > You're free to build Evolution and e-d-s with debugging symbols, and > > > watch it load in gdb if you don't believe me. Last time I did this, I > > > found most of the time spent in the loader. Any optimizations would > > > certainly be welcome. > >=20 > > I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: > >=20 > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 > >=20 > > Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the > > SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing > > the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on > > performance. >=20 > This is what mezz suspected as well, and I believe he will test this. >=20 > >=20 > > Unfortunately, the affected maintainer has closed the PR, mainly > > because he could not understand it. And portmgr has backed the > > maintainer, mainly because of personal friendship. >=20 > We did not side with ade out of friendship. We had to weigh the benefit > of this patch against the benefit of having a dedicated autotools > maintainer. Since autotools is quite complex, but very critical to a > large number of ports, and since we didn't have people lining up to be > autotools maintainers, we opted to respect ade's maintainership of > libtool, and his decision. That argument does not stand, since there was at least one person lined up: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libtool15/Makefile.diff?= r1=3D1.55;r2=3D1.56;f=3Dh --=20 Jean-Yves Lefort --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_14_13_13_+0100_GJiE3QloI=69Tyx9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHy/lyyzD7UaO4AGoRAuM1AJ9r9ewq79+Z3WTnj1SiiN8Cs0KeQACeLvZe V3tlenPfN2FpNGbH+oUJHsM= =5rmy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__3_Mar_2008_14_13_13_+0100_GJiE3QloI=69Tyx9-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 16:44:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189E31065671 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CDA8FC29 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m23GinlO089235; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:44:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Jean-Yves Lefort In-Reply-To: <20080303141313.24f906fb.jylefort@brutele.be> References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303141313.24f906fb.jylefort@brutele.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-sTtSygoxZl6k3XYEGpjE" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:44:04 -0500 Message-Id: <1204562644.13868.8.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:44:12 -0000 --=-sTtSygoxZl6k3XYEGpjE Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 14:13 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:31:34 -0500 > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 00:12 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:54 -0500 > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:46 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:20:47 -0500 > > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 19:12 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:50:53 -0500 > > > > > > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 18:16 -0500, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0RC3 and I'm trying to figure out w= hy evolution takes over a minute to start, there are no error messages if I= run it from terminal window. First I was running 6.3 but I upgraded to 7.= 0 thinking that it might of solve the problem but it didn't. What amazes m= e is, I've got ubuntu installed on the same machine and it only takes 3 sec= onds to start, also it only takes 3 seconds to start in windows. Evolution= running like this is completely worthless. Any ideas what might be causin= g this? Please respond to my email address also. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > This has been discussed on this mailing list before. The n= umber of > > > > > > > > plug-ins enabled in Evo slows down the load time as the loa= der is > > > > > > > > spinning trying to load each plug-in. You should disable a= ll unneeded > > > > > > > > plug-ins. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > --=20 > > > > > > > > PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Plug-ins don't seem to have an effect when running it on ubun= tu, all the plug-ins are enabled under ubuntu and still starts in 3 seconds= . Are you trying to say that the FreeBSD loader is kind of primitive compa= ring to the linux loader? > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > No. I'm saying that the tasks the FreeBSD loader performs take= s longer > > > > > > than the ones performed by the Linux loader. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Well, I disabled all the plugins and still takes 40 seconds to op= en that's a lot longer than linux with all the plugins enabled. As far I'm= concerned evolution is out of my list of programs, I still have my doubts = about the real reason as to why it takes so long to open. In reality there= 's no real reason as to why a program will take so long to open, if that's = the case evolution will loose a lot of users in the FreeBSD community. > > > >=20 > > > > You're free to build Evolution and e-d-s with debugging symbols, an= d > > > > watch it load in gdb if you don't believe me. Last time I did this= , I > > > > found most of the time spent in the loader. Any optimizations woul= d > > > > certainly be welcome. > > >=20 > > > I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: > > >=20 > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 > > >=20 > > > Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the > > > SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing > > > the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on > > > performance. > >=20 > > This is what mezz suspected as well, and I believe he will test this. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Unfortunately, the affected maintainer has closed the PR, mainly > > > because he could not understand it. And portmgr has backed the > > > maintainer, mainly because of personal friendship. > >=20 > > We did not side with ade out of friendship. We had to weigh the benefi= t > > of this patch against the benefit of having a dedicated autotools > > maintainer. Since autotools is quite complex, but very critical to a > > large number of ports, and since we didn't have people lining up to be > > autotools maintainers, we opted to respect ade's maintainership of > > libtool, and his decision. >=20 > That argument does not stand, since there was at least one person > lined up: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libtool15/Makefile.dif= f?r1=3D1.55;r2=3D1.56;f=3Dh One cannot take over maintainership of a port after 16 days. This move did upset portmgr since it was against documented policy. However, autotools is more than just libtool. Ade actively maintains autoconf, automake, gettext, and the bsd.autotools.mk framework. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-sTtSygoxZl6k3XYEGpjE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkfMKtIACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4eyDwCeJfD17YggVGI7EgDXVEFUIGTc NX0An0NcwxlK7CSDmZYhpUwiTyPVqodO =mQ8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-sTtSygoxZl6k3XYEGpjE-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 05:33:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593A1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net (eastrmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.240.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0004A8FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080304053301.RZLR22791.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:33:01 -0500 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id wtYf1Y0094iy4EG02tYfcD; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:32:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:34:21 -0600 To: "Joe Marcus Clarke" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204415453.1262.26.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301191214.58432ae0.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204417247.1262.29.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080301204637.74cfc75f.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1204504294.40616.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.26 (Linux) Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:33:02 -0000 On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:31:34 -0600, Joe Marcus Clarke = wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 00:12 +0100, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> I suspect that the patch in this PR would have greatly helped: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D104877 >> >> Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the= >> SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing >> the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on >> performance. > > This is what mezz suspected as well, and I believe he will test this. I have tested it. Evolution starts up pretty same before and after for = slow start up. The patch in PR doesn't help. Alexander is right, it also= = needs to be patch in libtool and have these *.pc files change to get the= = better result. Cheers, Mezz -- = mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 09:00:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BADD1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roy@marples.name) Received: from mail.marples.name (rsm.demon.co.uk [80.177.111.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE9A8FC1E for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roy@marples.name) Received: from uberpc.marples.name (uberpc.marples.name [10.73.1.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.marples.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B6419006C for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:42:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Roy Marles To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:42:47 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> In-Reply-To: <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803040842.47946.roy@marples.name> Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:00:27 -0000 On Sunday 02 March 2008 23:12:37 Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the > SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing > the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on > performance. One thing that may help here is allowing the use of cutsom LDFLAGS - namely -Wl,--as-needed. This removes SO_NEEDED references when the library really isn't needed. For a more indepth discussion on the benefits of this, read this article [1]. I had a quick look at ports, but it doesn't seem to honor LDFLAGS in any port. Sadly most of the world needs to be compiled with this LDFLAG for it to really work, so I didn't look much futher. FreeBSD base system compiles fine with it though :) You should also note that as-needed isn't a default Gentoo build option but a lot of people use it safely and it's one of the optimisations developers try an fix. It's also useful to note that on Gentoo/FreeBSD-6.2 this problem does not exist at all. Yes, I'm very aware that G/FBSD isn't FBSD, as we backported some patches from 7 and make some of our own. One of these patches was to rtld.c, available here [2] Thanks Roy [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml [2] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-freebsd/freebsd-libexec/files/freebsd-libexec-6.1-libfallback.patch?annotate=1.2 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 09:49:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF73E106566C for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7433C8FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57CB2.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.124.178]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E192E159; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:49:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2496512; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m249mt8O089448; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:48:55 +0100 Message-ID: <20080304104855.8dk4kbnbac4g4kc4@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:48:55 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Roy Marles References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <200803040842.47946.roy@marples.name> In-Reply-To: <200803040842.47946.roy@marples.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.004, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:49:07 -0000 Quoting Roy Marles (from Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:42:47 +0000): > On Sunday 02 March 2008 23:12:37 Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >> Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the >> SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing >> the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on >> performance. > > One thing that may help here is allowing the use of cutsom LDFLAGS - > namely -Wl,--as-needed. This removes SO_NEEDED references when the library > really isn't needed. For a more indepth discussion on the benefits of this= , This sounds really interesting! We would have to check which compiler =20 versions understand this flag. And it is a nin-intrusive change to the =20 autotools chain. And making ports honor LDFLAGS (like they do with =20 CFLAGS) is a good ideas IMO. > read this article [1]. I had a quick look at ports, but it doesn't seem to > honor LDFLAGS in any port. Sadly most of the world needs to be compiled wi= th > this LDFLAG for it to really work, so I didn't look much futher. FreeBSD b= ase > system compiles fine with it though :) Oh, if the gnome maintained ports would honor LDFLAGS, it would =20 already be a big deal (and probably solve the issue with evolution). 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Please visit the following page for more info: http://product.computerwide.net Cisco Router (NEW) CISCO871-K9 $389 CISCO871-SEC-K9 $479 CISCO871W-G-A-K9 $509 CISCO877-K9 $389 CISCO877-SEC/K9 $479 CISCO877W-G-A-K9 $509 CISCO1811/K9 $777 CISCO1811W-AG-A/K9 $957 CISCO1841 $837 CISCO1841-HSEC/K9 $1,797 CISCO1841-SEC/K9 $1,497 CISCO1841-T1 $1,437 CISCO1841-T1SEC/K9 $2,097 ACS-1841-RM-19=3D $60 CISCO2801 $1,197 CISCO2801-AC-IP $1,422 CISCO2801-HSEC/K9 $2,157 CISCO2801-SEC/K9 $1,737 CISCO2801-V/K9 $1,617 CISCO2811 $1,497 CISCO2811-AC-IP $1,737 CISCO2811-DC $1,737 CISCO2811-HSEC/K9 $2,457 CISCO2811-SEC/K9 $2,037 CISCO2811-V/K9 $1,917 CISCO2821 $2,337 CISCO2821-AC-IP $2,697 CISCO2821-HSEC/K9 $3,297 CISCO2821-SEC/K9 $2,877 CISCO2821-V/K9 $2,817 CISCO2851 $3,897 CISCO2851-AC-IP $4,257 CISCO2851-HSEC/K9 $4,857 CISCO2851-SEC/K9 $4,437 CISCO2851-V/K9 $4,437 CISCO2851-V3PN-K9 $7,257 CISCO3825 $5,700 CISCO3825-AC-IP $6,060 CISCO3825-HSEC/K9 $6,957 CISCO3825-SEC/K9 $6,537 CISCO3825-V/K9 $6,297 CISCO3825-V3PN/K9 $10,437 CISCO3845 $7,800 CISCO3845-AC-IP $8,160 CISCO3845-HSEC/K9 $9,537 CISCO3845-SEC/K9 $8,637 CISCO3845-V/K9 $8,397 CISCO3845-V3PN/K9 $12,957 Cisco Router Module (New) AIM-VPN/HPII-PLUS $2,100 AIM-VPN/SSL-2=3D $1,500 AIM-VPN/SSL-3=3D $2,100 HWIC-1ADSL=3D $450 HWIC-1FE=3D $840 HWIC-2FE=3D $1,500 HWIC-1GE-SFP $2,100 HWIC-4A/S $720 HWIC-4ESW $255 HWIC-4ESW-POE $345 HWIC-4T $1,680 HWIC-8A $690 HWIC-8A/S-232 $1,440 HWIC-16A $1,380 HWIC-AP-AG-A $420 HWIC-AP-G-A $300 HWIC-D-9ESW $480 HWIC-D-9ESW-POE $648 ILPM-4 $90 ILPM-8 $168 NM-1FE2W-V2 $1,380 NM-2FE2W-V2 $1,920 NM-1T3/E3 $5,100 NM-HD-1V $360 NM-HD-2V $600 NME-16ES-1G $1,377 NME-16ES-1G-P $1,635 NME-X-23ES-1G $1,977 NME-X-23ES-1G-P $2,313 NME-XD-24ES-1S-P $3,075 NME-XD-48ES-2S-P $4,137 PVDM2-8 $240 PVDM2-16 $480 PVDM2-32 $960 PVDM2-48 $1,440 PVDM2-64 $1,920 VIC-4FXS/DID $480 VIC2-2E/M $240 VIC2-2FXO $240 VIC2-2FXS $240 VIC2-4FXO $480 VWIC2-1MFT-G703 $1,080 VWIC2-1MFT-T1/E1 $780 VWIC2-2MFT-G703 $1,800 VWIC2-2MFT-T1/E1 $1,200 WIC-1B-S/T-V3=3D $300 WIC-1B-U-V2 $420 WIC-1DSU-T1-V2 $600 WIC-1T $240 WIC-2T $420 Cisco Switch (NEW) WS-CE500-24LC $777 WS-CE500-24PC $1,677 WS-CE500-24TT $477 WS-CE500G-12TC $1,173 WS-CE520-8PC-K9 $837 WS-C2960-8TC-L $537 WS-C2960-24TC-L $1,497 WS-C2960-24TT-L $777 WS-C2960-48TC-L $2,697 WS-C2960-48TT-L $1,497 WS-C2960G-8TC-L $837 WS-C2960G-24TC-L $1,977 WS-C2960G-48TC-L $3,597 WS-C3560-24PS-E $3,474 WS-C3560-24PS-S $2,277 WS-C3560-24TS-E $2,994 WS-C3560-24TS-S $1,797 WS-C3560-48PS-E $5,094 WS-C3560-48PS-S $3,897 WS-C3560-48TS-E $4,194 WS-C3560-48TS-S $2,997 WS-C3560E-24PD-E $6,474 WS-C3560E-24PD-S $4,077 WS-C3560E-24TD-E $5,994 WS-C3560E-24TD-S $3,597 WS-C3560E-48PD-E $10,494 WS-C3560E-48PD-S $8,097 WS-C3560E-48TD-E $9,594 WS-C3560E-48TD-S $7,197 WS-C3560G-24PS-E $5,754 WS-C3560G-24PS-S $3,357 WS-C3560G-24TS-E $5,274 WS-C3560G-24TS-S $2,877 WS-C3560G-48PS-E $8,094 WS-C3560G-48PS-S $5,697 WS-C3560G-48TS-E $7,194 WS-C3560G-48TS-S $4,797 WS-C3750-24FS-S $6,477 WS-C3750-24PS-E $4,074 WS-C3750-24PS-S $2,877 WS-C3750-24TS-E $3,594 WS-C3750-24TS-S $2,397 WS-C3750-48PS-E $6,294 WS-C3750-48PS-S $5,097 WS-C3750-48TS-E $5,394 WS-C3750-48TS-S $4,197 WS-C3750E-24PD-S $6,177 WS-C3750E-24TD-S $5,697 WS-C3750E-48PD-S $12,297 WS-C3750E-48TD-S $11,397 WS-C3750G-12S-E $7,194 WS-C3750G-12S-S $4,797 WS-C3750G-24PS-E $7,074 WS-C3750G-24PS-S $4,677 WS-C3750G-24T-E $5,994 WS-C3750G-24T-S $3,597 WS-C3750G-24TS-E $6,894 WS-C3750G-24TS-E1U $6,594 WS-C3750G-24TS-S $4,497 WS-C3750G-24TS-S1U $4,197 WS-C3750G-24WS-S50 $15,300 WS-C3750G-48PS-E $14,094 WS-C3750G-48PS-S $9,297 WS-C3750G-48TS-E $13,194 WS-C3750G-48TS-S $8,397 WS-C4503 $597 WS-C4506 $2,997 WS-C4507R $5,997 WS-C4510R $7,497 WS-C4948-E $8,697 WS-C4948-S $6,297 WS-C4948-10GE-E $12,897 WS-C4948-10GE-S $10,497 WS-C6506-E $3,300 WS-C6506-E-FAN $297 WS-C6509-E $5,700 WS-C6509-E-FAN $297 Cisco Switch Module (NEW) CVR-X2-SFP=3D $117 GLC-LH-SM=3D $597 GLC-SX-MM=3D $300 GLC-ZX-SM=3D $2,397 GLC-T=3D $237 GLC-GE-100FX $150 WS-G5483 $237 WS-G5484 $300 WS-G5486 $597 WS-G5487 $2,397 WS-X4013+ $3,597 WS-X4013+TS $3,597 WS-X4013+10GE $7,197 WS-X4124-RJ45 $1,497 WS-X4148-RJ $2,697 WS-X4148-RJ21 $2,697 WS-X4232-GB-RJ $2,697 WS-X4248-FE-SFP $4,197 WS-X4248-RJ45V $3,897 WS-X4424-GB-RJ45 $2,097 WS-X4448-GB-SFP $9,897 WS-X4506-GB-T $2,097 WS-X4515 $7,197 WS-X4516 $9,897 WS-X4516-10GE $11,997 WS-X4524-GB-RJ45V $2,697 WS-X4548-GB-RJ45 $3,297 WS-X4548-GB-RJ45V $4,497 WS-X4991 $120 WS-X6148A-GE-TX $4,200 WS-X6148A-RJ-45 $3,600 WS-X6548-GE-TX $7,200 WS-X6724-SFP $9,000 WS-X6748-GE-TX $9,000 WS-SUP32-GE-3B $9,000 WS-SUP720-3B $16,800 WS-SVC-CMM $5,997 WS-SVC-CMM-6T1 $7,197 X2-10GB-CX4 $360 X2-10GB-LR $2,400 X2-10GB-LX4 $1,797 X2-10GB-SR $1,800 Cisco FireWall (NEW) ASA5500-SSL-10 $750 ASA5500-SSL-25 $1,857 ASA5500-SSL-50 $2,397 ASA5505-50-BUN-K9 $507 ASA5505-BUN-K9 $357 ASA5505-PWR-AC=3D $48 ASA5505-SEC-BUN-K9 $1,017 ASA5505-SEC-PL=3D $510 ASA5505-SSL10-K9 $1,257 ASA5505-SSL25-K9 $2,364 ASA5505-UL-BUN-K9 $597 ASA5510-BUN-K9 $2,097 ASA5510-AIP10-K9 $4,797 ASA5510-CSC10-K9 $4,317 ASA5510-CSC20-K9 $7,557 ASA5510-SEC-BUN-K9 $2,697 ASA5510-SEC-PL=3D $720 ASA5510-SSL50-K9 $4,497 ASA5510-SSL100-K9 $6,897 ASA5520-AIP10-K9 $7,497 ASA5520-AIP20-K9 $9,597 ASA5520-BUN-K9 $4,797 ASA5520-CSC10-K9 $6,717 ASA5540-BUN-K9 $10,197 ASA-SSM-AIP-10-K9 $3,600 ASA-SSM-AIP-20-K9 $6,000 ASA-SSM-CSC-10-K9 $2,700 ASA-SSM-CSC-20-K9 $6,300 SSM-4GE=3D $3,000 PIX-1GE-66 $1,800 PIX-501-BUN-K9 $357 PIX-506E-BUN-K9 $837 Cisco IP Phone (NEW) CP-7906G=3D $105 CP-7906G-CH1 $165 CP-7911G=3D $135 CP-7911G-CH1 $225 CP-7914=3D $237 CP-7931G=3D $195 CP-7936=3D $717 CP-7936-CH1 $807 CP-7936-MIC-KIT=3D $210 CP-7936-PWR-KIT $90 CP-7940G $159 CP-7940G-CH1 $279 CP-7941G $207 CP-7941G-CH1 $327 CP-7941G-GE=3D $261 CP-7941G-GE-CH1 $381 CP-7945G=3D $297 CP-7960G $219 CP-7960G-CH1 $339 CP-7961G $267 CP-7961G-CH1 $387 CP-7961G-GE=3D $339 CP-7961G-GE-CH1 $459 CP-7965G=3D $375 CP-7970G $384 CP-7970G-CH1 $534 CP-7971G-GE $474 CP-7971G-GE-CH1 $624 CP-7975G=3D $423 CP-PWR-CUBE-3 $27 CP-PWR-INJ=3D $75 CP-DOUBLFOOTSTAND $22 CP-LCKNGWALLMOUNT $18 CP-SINGLFOOTSTAND $19 CP-WALLMOUNTKIT $15 CUVA-V2=3D $96 ATA186-I1-1P-CH1-A $126 Cisco Wireless (NEW) AIR-ANT1728 $95 AIR-ANT1729 $131 AIR-ANT2460P-R $131 AIR-ANT2465P-R $239 AIR-ANT2485P-R $143 AIR-ANT2506 $95 AIR-ANT4941 $11 AIR-ANT5135D-R $11 AIR-ANT5959 $167 AIR-AP521G-A-K9 $299 AIR-AP1010-A-K9 $359 AIR-AP1030-A-K9 $539 AIR-AP1121G-A-K9 $359 AIR-AP1131AG-A-K9 $419 AIR-AP1242AG-A-K9 $539 AIR-BR1310G-A-K9 $779 AIR-BR1310G-A-K9-R $779 AIR-CB21AG-A-K9 $101 AIR-LAP1131AG-A-K9 $419 AIR-LAP1242AG-A-K9 $539 AIR-MP21G-A-K9 $89 AIR-PI21AG-A-K9 $149 AIR-PWRINJ3 $36 Cisco Power Supply (NEW) PWR-2801-AC-IP $225 PWR-2811-AC-IP $240 PWR-2821-51-AC-IP $360 PWR-3825-AC $300 PWR-3825-AC-IP=3D $360 PWR-3845-AC=3D $300 PWR-3845-AC-IP=3D $600 PWR-C45-1000AC $597 PWR-C45-1300ACV $897 PWR-C45-1400AC $897 PWR-C45-2800ACV $1,197 PWR-C45-4200ACV $2,397 PWR-C49-300AC=3D $300 PWR675-AC-RPS-N1 $1,137 WS-CAC-3000W $1,800 WS-CAC-6000W $3,000 Cisco Cable (NEW) CAB-***FC $60 CAB-***MT $60 CAB-SS-***FC $60 CAB-SS-***MT $60 CAB-OCT-*** $390 CAB-GS-1M $60 CAB-RPS-1614 $45 CAB-SFP-50CM $150 CAB-STACK-50CM=3D $60 3Com Switch & Module (NEW) 3C16470 $58 3C16471 $89 3C16472 $151 3C16475CS $164 3C16476CS $306 3C16477A $213 3C16478 $182 3C16479 $251 3C16490 $616 3C16491 $616 3C1670108 $61 3C1670800B $67 3C1671600 $170 3C17203 $988 3C17204 $2,042 3C17260 $926 3C17261 $1,856 3C17262 $244 3C17263 $306 3C17268 $3,716 3C17300A $279 3C17302A $616 3C17304A $325 3C17462 $151 3C17666 $802 3CGSU05 $31 3CGSU08 $50 3CR17152-91 $1,856 3CR17161-91 $988 3CR17162-91 $2,352 3CR17171-91 $1,670 3CR17172-91 $2,910 3CR17250-91 $2,786 3CR17251-91 $4,956 3CR17252-91 $3,468 3CR17253-91 $6,196 3CR17258-91 $4,336 3CR17561-91 $430 3CR17562-91 $759 3CR17571-91 $1,112 3CR17572-91 $2,042 3CR17660-91 $775 3CR17661-91 $1,236 3CR17662-91 $2,166 3CR17761-91 $2,042 3CR17762-91 $3,096 3CR17771-91 $2,476 3CR17772-91 $4,336 3CSFP91 $213 3CSFP92 $616 3CSFP93 $120 3CXFP92 $2,166 3CXFP94 $1,236 3CXFP96 $6,196 HP Switch & Module (NEW) J9019A $284 J9021A $1,196 J9022A $2,148 J9028B $352 J9029A $142 J9049A $2,447 J9050A $3,739 J9077A $74 J9078A $257 J9079A $74 J9080A $189 HP Storage (NEW) EH841A $1,884 EH842A $2,014 EH847A $1,949 EH848A $2,079 EH903A $2,111 HP/Compaq Server (NEW) 416566-371 $3,992 417458-371 $2,604 418314-371 $3,813 418315-371 $4,156 430808-371 $8,984 A8002A $897 AF601A $3,041 AF604A $100 HP/Compaq Option (NEW) 264007-B21 $89 273914-B21 $974 374654-B21 $96 375859-B21 $201 394795-B21 $299 397409-B21 $111 397411-B21 $194 397413-B21 $411 405154-B21 $44 410570-B21 $96 412648-B21 $171 418323-B21 $749 418324-B21 $936 431933-B21 $261 431935-B21 $336 431958-B21 $269 Juniper Firewall (NEW) NS-5GT-108 $648 NS-5GT-208 $1,080 WatchGuard (NEW) WG50010 $316 WG50020 $396 WG50055 $607 WG50550 $962 WG50750 $1,841 WG51250 $2,501 WGSSL05 $1,841 *********************************************************** Quantity discount is available. 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <1204424514.1262.36.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20080303001237.28a45ba9.jylefort@brutele.be> <200803040842.47946.roy@marples.name> <20080304104855.8dk4kbnbac4g4kc4@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20080304104855.8dk4kbnbac4g4kc4@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:27:12 -0000 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Roy Marles (from Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:42:47 > +0000): > >> On Sunday 02 March 2008 23:12:37 Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: >>> Indeed, a casual inspection of libexec/rtdl-elf/rtld.c shows that the >>> SO_NEEDED lists (Obj_Entry.needed) are walked recursively. Removing >>> the useless entries might therefore have a dramatic impact on >>> performance. >> >> One thing that may help here is allowing the use of cutsom LDFLAGS - >> namely -Wl,--as-needed. This removes SO_NEEDED references when the >> library >> really isn't needed. For a more indepth discussion on the benefits of >> this, > > This sounds really interesting! We would have to check which compiler > versions understand this flag. And it is a nin-intrusive change to the > autotools chain. And making ports honor LDFLAGS (like they do with > CFLAGS) is a good ideas IMO. > >> read this article [1]. I had a quick look at ports, but it doesn't >> seem to >> honor LDFLAGS in any port. Sadly most of the world needs to be >> compiled with >> this LDFLAG for it to really work, so I didn't look much futher. >> FreeBSD base >> system compiles fine with it though :) > > Oh, if the gnome maintained ports would honor LDFLAGS, it would already > be a big deal (and probably solve the issue with evolution). All GNOME ports honor LDFLAGS. We pass custom LDFLAGS via CONFIGURE_ENV to every port (i.e. to add -L${LOCALBASE}/lib). This would be trivial to test. As for the linker patch, I see the same slowish startup on 7.X and 8.X, so I do not think it will help. That said, if you are using the FBSD linker in G/FBSD, and you're not seeing this problem, there must be something else that's keep Evo in the linker for so long. Thus far, I haven't heard any default Gentoo option that may account for this. Perhaps you have some other libtool patches or other custom patches not in any version of FBSD...? Joe > > Thanks for info, > Alexander. > -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 18:28:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B93106566B for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roy@marples.name) Received: from mail.marples.name (rsm.demon.co.uk [80.177.111.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046C88FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roy@marples.name) Received: from livecd.development.ltl (host81-149-27-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.149.27.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.marples.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FF419006C; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:27:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Roy Marples To: Joe Marcus Clarke Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:27:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20080304104855.8dk4kbnbac4g4kc4@webmail.leidinger.net> <47CD866C.8020909@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <47CD866C.8020909@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803041827.42384.roy@marples.name> Cc: Alexander Leidinger , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:28:24 -0000 On Tuesday 04 March 2008 17:27:08 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > All GNOME ports honor LDFLAGS. I'm pretty sure evolution didn't when I tested this a few months ago. I'll retest once I get my fbsd box back up. > That said, if you are using > the FBSD linker in G/FBSD, and you're not seeing this problem, there > must be something else that's keep Evo in the linker for so long. Thus > far, I haven't heard any default Gentoo option that may account for > this. Perhaps you have some other libtool patches or other custom > patches not in any version of FBSD...? Gentoo has a function called elibtoolize which tests and applies libtool patches to the shipped copy. It's quite complicated as many packages ship with old and customised libtools. Gentoo also forces packages to use the GNU versioning sytem of x.y.z instead of the fbsd single digit, which makes library upgrades a bit less painful. There's also patches to ensure that parallel make and install work. Gentoo also uses binutils-2.17 on G/FBSD whereas last Iooked FBSD uses 2.15. Both use large and complicated patchsets compared to a vanilla binutils. I can't be much more help as I don't use G/FBSD since I retired from Gentoo, but I do idle in #gentoo-bsd where I'm trying to get some users to get a list of all patches applied against evolution. Thanks Roy From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 4 19:01:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9051065674; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2C68FC1D; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080304190157.OUHD11832.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net>; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:01:57 -0500 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id x6vv1Y0064iy4EG0000000; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:55:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:03:20 -0600 To: "Roy Marples" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080301181608.5d393e02.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20080304104855.8dk4kbnbac4g4kc4@webmail.leidinger.net> <47CD866C.8020909@freebsd.org> <200803041827.42384.roy@marples.name> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200803041827.42384.roy@marples.name> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.26 (Linux) Cc: Alexander Leidinger , Joe Marcus Clarke , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution crawls on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:01:58 -0000 On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:27:42 -0600, Roy Marples wrote= : > On Tuesday 04 March 2008 17:27:08 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> All GNOME ports honor LDFLAGS. > > I'm pretty sure evolution didn't when I tested this a few months ago. = = > I'll retest once I get my fbsd box back up. You can't just add in /etc/make.conf. You have to edit in = evolution/Makefile. If you want to get make.conf works, it will need to = be = add ${LDFLAGS} like this: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CONFIGURE_ENV=3D CPPFLAGS=3D"-I${LOCALBASE}/include" \ LDFLAGS=3D"-L${LOCALBASE}/lib ${LDFLAGS}" =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Then add in make.conf: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,--as-needed =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I haven't test it, but it should works. >> That said, if you are using >> the FBSD linker in G/FBSD, and you're not seeing this problem, there >> must be something else that's keep Evo in the linker for so long. Th= us >> far, I haven't heard any default Gentoo option that may account for >> this. Perhaps you have some other libtool patches or other custom >> patches not in any version of FBSD...? > > Gentoo has a function called elibtoolize which tests and applies libto= ol > patches to the shipped copy. It's quite complicated as many packages s= hip > with old and customised libtools. Gentoo also forces packages to use t= he = > GNU > versioning sytem of x.y.z instead of the fbsd single digit, which make= s > library upgrades a bit less painful. There's also patches to ensure th= at > parallel make and install work. We have a hack for library version too, it's in Mk/bsd.gnome.mk called = ltverhack. Near all of our ports (maintain by gnome) are using it, it = helps a lot for upgrade just like with Gentoo. But you said that Gentoo = = get to use x.y.z and we just get to use correct ABI number. You can see = = the difference: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/libgnome/pkg-plist.diff?= r1=3D1.59;r2=3D1.60 -lib/libgnome-2.so.1000 +lib/libgnome-2.so.0 Cheers, Mezz > Gentoo also uses binutils-2.17 on G/FBSD whereas last Iooked FBSD uses= = > 2.15. > Both use large and complicated patchsets compared to a vanilla binutil= s. > > I can't be much more help as I don't use G/FBSD since I retired from = > Gentoo, > but I do idle in #gentoo-bsd where I'm trying to get some users to get= a = > list > of all patches applied against evolution. > > Thanks > > Roy -- = mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 5 15:50:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F88106568C for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0118FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m25Fo5Yd081165 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:50:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m25Fo5Wm081164; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:50:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:50:05 GMT Message-Id: <200803051550.m25Fo5Wm081164@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnome@FreeBSD.org From: "Kyryll Mirnenko" Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118659: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kyryll Mirnenko List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:50:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/118659; it has been noted by GNATS. 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( [59.125.13.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 38sm2577765agd.38.2008.03.05.17.13.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric L. Chen" To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:13:42 +0800 Message-Id: <1204766022.1855.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.21.92 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "Eric L. Chen" Subject: seahorse-agent complains setuid in gnome-2.21.92 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:38:21 -0000 Hi, I upgraded gnome to 2.21.92 from marcuscom-cvs. After that, gnome-session cannot start cause seahorse-agnet setuid. I start gnome-session using: "ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session seahorse-agent --execute gnome-session". Here is the .xsession-errors. .xsession-errors: /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... To change an environment variable in /bin/sh use: $ VARIABLE="value" $ export VARIABLE Smart Common Input Method 1.4.7 Launching a SCIM process with x11... Loading socket Config module ... Creating backend ... Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.7 Starting SCIM as daemon ... SCIM has been successfully launched. /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session seahorse-agent --execute gnome-session (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup. (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set. (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry (process:1539): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. For further details, see: http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html Refusing to initialize GTK+. From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 6 03:47:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3BD106566B for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548098FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m263mcIJ023589; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:48:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "Eric L. Chen" In-Reply-To: <1204766022.1855.7.camel@localhost> References: <1204766022.1855.7.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kzFq+N0ZNsnqKly6AM9z" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:47:43 -0500 Message-Id: <1204775263.12543.30.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seahorse-agent complains setuid in gnome-2.21.92 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:47:51 -0000 --=-kzFq+N0ZNsnqKly6AM9z Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:13 +0800, Eric L. Chen wrote: > Hi, > I upgraded gnome to 2.21.92 from marcuscom-cvs. > After that, gnome-session cannot start cause seahorse-agnet setuid. > I start gnome-session using: > "ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session seahorse-agent --execute > gnome-session". >=20 > Here is the .xsession-errors. > .xsession-errors: > /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... > To change an environment variable in /bin/sh use: >=20 > $ VARIABLE=3D"value" > $ export VARIABLE > Smart Common Input Method 1.4.7 >=20 > Launching a SCIM process with x11... > Loading socket Config module ... > Creating backend ... > Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... > GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.7 >=20 > Starting SCIM as daemon ... > SCIM has been successfully launched. > /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will > execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session > seahorse-agent --execute gnome-session >=20 > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not > started at session startup. >=20 > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set. >=20 > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry >=20 > (process:1539): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid > or setgid. > This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper > program instead. For further details, see: >=20 > http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html >=20 > Refusing to initialize GTK+. I filed http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D520664 for this. It doesn't look like seahorse uses mlock() anymore so you can try removing the setuid bit from seahorse-agent, and see if it works. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-kzFq+N0ZNsnqKly6AM9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkfPaV4ACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4eINQCdHPx2qXzyONKlrcd9FOZkhNiK 0P4AoImNpww6VoREhD9x4ddZfDJroFFp =zsEs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kzFq+N0ZNsnqKly6AM9z-- From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 6 04:05:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0FE106566C for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lihong.chen@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A4E8FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lihong.chen@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so510464anc.13 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:05:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=4gKIMW2eXVrtlkGwIccRjHaaqVoOiDwvnxUxFd5AJa0=; b=dCLX1Vu596JvSDjMwLZJGQhQ3j7Sh2Qje4N9P1B466uJjj0cjwMnM+8u9y9oMoew1PkYfUoAZPThGv9sx4qS+ezIYiiXGEPzIvpMzQ9GkUnKsiJrXJ9hg0uCDwieG+weDkBwl45srlvbZe2C9TtvuQ8mACuXOK3phL1ipjdvz3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=jScpSQBCyq3yUHItD93HFM2nRrh8CAOekZ8sJq6jK7q8gvgJd9rYjLDBNl8sR3NMBTp19s7wiUsxfQaK93ebhw6vAdU6sZ/SYXs0dmukWYP0p5NF8i+8hN/qwzx9GHqlu/ciZaGujF3i4yzmTVSixaf6rEfN3JPX26zqaymtSXg= Received: by 10.101.71.16 with SMTP id y16mr8814200ank.66.1204776350258; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.10.84? ( [59.125.13.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d34sm4064938and.8.2008.03.05.20.05.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:05:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric L. Chen" To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1204775263.12543.30.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <1204766022.1855.7.camel@localhost> <1204775263.12543.30.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:05:43 +0800 Message-Id: <1204776343.4887.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.21.92 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "Eric L. Chen" Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seahorse-agent complains setuid in gnome-2.21.92 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:05:51 -0000 On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 22:47 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:13 +0800, Eric L. Chen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded gnome to 2.21.92 from marcuscom-cvs. > > After that, gnome-session cannot start cause seahorse-agnet setuid. > > I start gnome-session using: > > "ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session seahorse-agent --execute > > gnome-session". > > > > Here is the .xsession-errors. > > .xsession-errors: > > /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... > > To change an environment variable in /bin/sh use: > > > > $ VARIABLE="value" > > $ export VARIABLE > > Smart Common Input Method 1.4.7 > > > > Launching a SCIM process with x11... > > Loading socket Config module ... > > Creating backend ... > > Loading x11 FrontEnd module ... > > GTK Panel of SCIM 1.4.7 > > > > Starting SCIM as daemon ... > > SCIM has been successfully launched. > > /usr/local/etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will > > execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- ssh-agent dbus-launch --exit-with-session > > seahorse-agent --execute gnome-session > > > > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not > > started at session startup. > > > > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set. > > > > (seahorse-agent:1539): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry > > > > (process:1539): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid > > or setgid. > > This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper > > program instead. For further details, see: > > > > http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html > > > > Refusing to initialize GTK+. > > I filed http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520664 for this. It > doesn't look like seahorse uses mlock() anymore so you can try removing > the setuid bit from seahorse-agent, and see if it works. > > Joe > OK, I removed setuid bit then every thing work properly, and seems no other effects. Thanks! /Eric From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 6 13:50:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2594B106567B for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C7B8FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m26Do7lm089760 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:50:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m26Do7CG089759; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:50:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:50:07 GMT Message-Id: <200803061350.m26Do7CG089759@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnome@FreeBSD.org From: Kyryll A Mirnenko aka Mirya Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118659: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kyryll A Mirnenko aka Mirya List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:50:08 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/118659; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Kyryll A Mirnenko aka Mirya To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118659: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:16:40 +0200 Can someone reopen the bug? Sorry for such a delay, the problem is still here (RELEASE-7.0, all ports are up to date), here's the backtrace with the debugging symbols: #0 0x48cbdd87 in g_markup_escape_text () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.s= o.0 #1 0x4855361f in gtk_widget_freeze_child_notify () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #2 0x48ac04e8 in g_object_set_valist ()=20 from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #3 0x48ac0a96 in g_object_set () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #4 0x48547cc1 in gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #5 0x0806736c in add_tip (wid=3D0x49d0ce48, text=3D0xbfbfd108 "=D0=A7=D0= =B5=EF=BF=BD200=D0=B3=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B4=EF=BF=BD201=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B0=EF=BF=BD=D0=BD=EF=BF=BD217= =EF=BF=BD203 =D0=BC=D0=B5=EF=BF=BD200=D0=B5=D0=B6=EF=BF=BD203: 0 =D0=B1=D0= =B0=D0=B9=EF=BF=BD202=EF=BF=BD226=EF=BF=BD) at gtkutil.c:502 #6 0x08062770 in fe_set_throttle (serv=3D0x49f8e000) at fe-gtk.c:743 #7 0x080aaffe in server_flush_queue (serv=3D0x49f8e000) at server.c:838 #8 0x080acfee in server_connect (serv=3D0x49f8e000, hostname=3D0x49d82580 "192.168.0.1", port=3D6667, no_login=3D0) at server.c:1683 #9 0x080adba3 in servlist_connect (sess=3D0x49fb5800, net=3D0x49d87200, join=3D1) at servlist.c:563 #10 0x0807af45 in servlist_connect_cb (button=3D0x49d0a490, userdata=3D0x0) at servlistgui.c:687 #11 0x48ac838f in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #12 0x48abb009 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so= =2E0 #13 0x48acf813 in g_signal_handler_disconnect () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #14 0x48ad1446 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #15 0x48ad1789 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #16 0x48353d2a in gtk_button_clicked ()=20 from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #17 0x4835577e in gtk_button_set_alignment () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #18 0x48ac838f in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #19 0x48ab9929 in g_value_set_static_boxed () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #20 0x48abb009 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so= =2E0 #21 0x48acf453 in g_signal_handler_disconnect () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #22 0x48ad1446 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #23 0x48ad1789 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #24 0x48353dba in gtk_button_released ()=20 from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #25 0x48353de1 in gtk_button_released ()=20 from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #26 0x4842a864 in gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__VOID () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #27 0x48ab9929 in g_value_set_static_boxed () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #28 0x48abb009 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so= =2E0 #29 0x48acf9a7 in g_signal_handler_disconnect () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #30 0x48ad118b in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #31 0x48ad1789 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #32 0x48547246 in gtk_widget_get_default_style () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #33 0x48423ac1 in gtk_propagate_event ()=20 from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #34 0x48424d28 in gtk_main_do_event () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.s= o.0 #35 0x4868ec0a in gdk_add_client_message_filter () from /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 #36 0x48cb9ae6 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #37 0x48cbce52 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.s= o.0 #38 0x48cbd237 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #39 0x48425204 in gtk_main () from /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #40 0x080618db in fe_main () at fe-gtk.c:291 #41 0x080b6c20 in main (argc=3D1, argv=3D0xbfbfe5f8) at xchat.c:1065 As for 2.8.4_3 vs. 2.8.4_4: I've upgraded from an earlier version (but can't say exactly which one), also that was done along with the base system upgrade (6.2 -> 7.0), so it's hard to track it back. From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 6 23:28:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BE51065672; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADBE8FC1C; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m26NSI3G038723; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:28:18 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m26NSH4d038719; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:28:17 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:28:17 GMT Message-Id: <200803062328.m26NSH4d038719@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mirya@zoc.com.ua, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118659: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:28:18 -0000 Synopsis: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U State-Changed-From-To: closed->analyzed State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 6 23:26:35 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: The submitter has come back and submit backtraces, I possible have patch but I am asking marcus if I read the backtraces correct. You can test it by put this patch in xchat/files/ and reinstall it. http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/patch-src_fe-gtk_fe-gtk.c http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118659 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 01:06:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2C01065674 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp3.clear.net.nz (smtp3.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18908FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from zmori.markir.net (121-73-161-198.dsl.telstraclear.net [121.73.161.198]) by smtp3.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0JXC00EM250U5M00@smtp3.clear.net.nz> for freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:50:56 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:50:37 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <47587E6C.1050205@paradise.net.nz> To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Message-id: <47D0915D.4060405@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <47587E6C.1050205@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071203) Subject: Re: Gnome 2.20 upgrade niggles X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:06:31 -0000 I wrote: > > > 2/ Hang during session startup > > I get intermittent hangs during login - usually > 'bonobo-activation-server' spinning on 99% cpu.. The I *think* this was > due to 2.20 not liking something in the pre-existing Gnome config for > the users concerned - as I found destroying all .gcon*, .gnom* .font* > etc directories and setting up the Gnome configuration again seems to > have cured it. > I've had this happening on and off since then, even when testing with completely new user accounts, so the above was not a solution. I'm now on Gnome 2.20.2. However, since source upgrading world and kernel from RELENG_6 to RELENG_7 (note *not* rebuilt ports yet), I have not encountered any hangs (been about 8 days, usually enough for 1 or 2 them). However it is still early days... I'll update in a another week or so with whether the trend continues or not. regards Mark From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 08:54:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F222F106566B for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwaki@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp) Received: from mxav03.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (ccmail.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp [133.35.23.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E558FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwaki@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 48EEE290DDB for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:39:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (tf-bsp01.eng.niigata-u.ac.jp [133.35.85.1]) by mxav03.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE112909EA; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:38:59 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <47D0FF23.2090404@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:38:59 +0900 From: Mamoru Iwaki User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080304) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Strange installation directory of ports/graphics/gimp-app X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:54:17 -0000 Hi, I'm installing gimp from ports, which depends on the following port: # $FreeBSD: ports/graphics/gimp-app/Makefile,v 1.216 2008/03/02 08:36:09 ahze Exp $ # $MCom: ports-stable/graphics/gimp-app/Makefile,v 1.1 2007/12/02 18:43:48 ahze Exp $ This port should be for gimp-2.4, but it actually installs some files under the directories like hoge/gimp/2.2/ I'm not sure, but I'm wondering it may be bug. Sorry, but I have no answer yet. It is just a report. -- ----- Mamoru IWAKI (iwaki@bc.niigata-u.ac.jp) Graduate School of Science and Technology, Niigata University From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 15:39:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822ED1065671; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565FA8FC2B; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (miwi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27FdWTI018347; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:39:32 GMT (envelope-from miwi@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from miwi@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27FdVoj018343; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:39:31 GMT (envelope-from miwi) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:39:31 GMT Message-Id: <200803071539.m27FdVoj018343@freefall.freebsd.org> To: turutani@scphys.kyoto-u.ac.jp, miwi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: miwi@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121462: building print/ghostscript-gpl fails with WITH_FT_BRIDGE=1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:39:32 -0000 Synopsis: building print/ghostscript-gpl fails with WITH_FT_BRIDGE=1 State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: miwi State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 15:37:57 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Reopen. That's should go in print/freetype2. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->gnome Responsible-Changed-By: miwi Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 15:37:57 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to the maintainer http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121462 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 17:50:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F179E1065670; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B318FC28; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27HoJmd029128; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:50:19 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27HoJmf029124; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:50:19 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:50:19 GMT Message-Id: <200803071750.m27HoJmf029124@freefall.freebsd.org> To: thor@irk.ru, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121263: www/firefox: Firefox coredumps under FreeBSD 6.3 in Print Preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:50:20 -0000 Synopsis: www/firefox: Firefox coredumps under FreeBSD 6.3 in Print Preview State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 17:49:33 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: I can't reproduce it, please follow this: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/bugging.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121263 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 17:51:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F70106567B; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8C28FC2B; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27HpQTc029175; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:51:26 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27HpQ1l029171; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:51:26 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:51:26 GMT Message-Id: <200803071751.m27HpQ1l029171@freefall.freebsd.org> To: peter_dunning@dsl.pipex.com, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121094: www/firefox will not start X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:51:27 -0000 Synopsis: www/firefox will not start State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 17:50:42 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Mark it as feedback, sent my comment: Try to reinstall nspr, nss and firefox in order. After that try firefox again. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121094 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 17:56:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBEB106567C; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3199A8FC2D; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27HuH8L029275; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:17 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27HuHLb029271; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:17 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:17 GMT Message-Id: <200803071756.m27HuHLb029271@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org, lx@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/114986: when LC_CTYPE is set to zh_CN.UTF-8, many gnome apps will crash when we close it. X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:56:17 -0000 Synopsis: when LC_CTYPE is set to zh_CN.UTF-8, many gnome apps will crash when we close it. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnome->lx Responsible-Changed-By: mezz Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 17:54:44 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2007-July/017923.html If scim causes GTK+2 applications crash, then it's scim bug. You should provide useful info by follow URL below to help other maintainer(s). http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/bugging.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=114986 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 19:06:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20491065678; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F4C8FC28; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27J6Q1i035185; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:06:26 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27J6PgE035179; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:06:25 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <200803071906.m27J6PgE035179@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mirya@zoc.com.ua, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118659: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:06:26 -0000 Synopsis: irc/xchat coredumps with LANG=uk_UA.KOI8-U State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->feedback State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 19:05:22 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: marcus has checked it and I have updated patch, so please test and let us know the result. It was took from its CVS. http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/patch-src_fe-gtk_fe-gtk.c http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118659 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 20:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9471065671; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F928FC12; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27Kmqgb045544; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:48:52 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27KmqEZ045540; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:48:52 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:48:52 GMT Message-Id: <200803072048.m27KmqEZ045540@freefall.freebsd.org> To: truckman@FreeBSD.org, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/115023: inconsistency in XML catalog location X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:48:52 -0000 Synopsis: inconsistency in XML catalog location State-Changed-From-To: suspended->closed State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 20:48:34 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: We have agreed about that we don't see how we can document to something that are several years out of date. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115023 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 20:49:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074801065674; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11C98FC16; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27KnFOs045674; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:15 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27KnF64045670; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:15 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:15 GMT Message-Id: <200803072049.m27KnF64045670@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@mavetju.org, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121279: [patch] bsd.gnome.mk - throw warning when bsd.gnome.mk isn't included properly. X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:49:16 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] bsd.gnome.mk - throw warning when bsd.gnome.mk isn't included properly. State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 20:49:00 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Patched in MC CVS that will be coming in FreeBSD ports tree when GNOME 2.22 released. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121279 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 20:49:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BED1065670; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CF08FC12; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27KniQ9045732; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:44 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27Knipj045728; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:44 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:49:44 GMT Message-Id: <200803072049.m27Knipj045728@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tigner@msu.edu, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118133: mail/evolution: email crashes when sorting by Subject in Junk folder X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:49:44 -0000 Synopsis: mail/evolution: email crashes when sorting by Subject in Junk folder State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 20:49:28 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Not much we can do with it and has been submitted in GNOME bugzilla. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118133 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 20:50:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF121065676; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921F38FC1F; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27Ko8iC045949; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:08 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27Ko8UB045945; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:08 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:08 GMT Message-Id: <200803072050.m27Ko8UB045945@freefall.freebsd.org> To: roots_bg@yahoo.com, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/119892: nautilus stops responding when trying to access smbfs mounted share which is not responding anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:50:08 -0000 Synopsis: nautilus stops responding when trying to access smbfs mounted share which is not responding anymore State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 20:49:53 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: Not much we can do with it if it's a kernel bug. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119892 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 20:59:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2701065672; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C282A8FC14; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (edwin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27KxaLf046445; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:59:36 GMT (envelope-from edwin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from edwin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27Kxa7u046441; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:59:36 GMT (envelope-from edwin) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:59:36 GMT Message-Id: <200803072059.m27Kxa7u046441@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: edwin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:59:37 -0000 Synopsis: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-ports-bugs->gnome Responsible-Changed-By: edwin Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 20:59:36 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer (via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121472 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 21:30:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D361065692 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9A68FC23 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27LU59b049123 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:30:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27LU5r7049120; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:30:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:30:05 GMT Message-Id: <200803072130.m27LU5r7049120@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnome@FreeBSD.org From: "Jeremy Messenger" Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes xchat segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeremy Messenger List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:30:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/121472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jeremy Messenger" To: bug-followup@freebsd.org, lordsit49@hotmail.com Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes xchat segmentation fault Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:29:01 -0600 > Download nicksound from xchat.org and attempt to load the script. Next time, please provide download link. I have searched and found this: http://www.tuxtail.org/pub/nicksound.1.2.tar.gz Is this same one? If yes, then did you follow the README? I haven't test it yet, but did you install audio/sox (for need 'play' binary) as said in the README? Did you have the sound file match with path in the script? > *** Warning: Linking the shared library perl.la against the > *** static library > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a > is not portable! It's just a warning and harmless. Cheers, Mezz -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 21:57:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B621065687; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDF58FC24; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27LvGPF051209; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:16 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27LvGqi051205; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:16 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:16 GMT Message-Id: <200803072157.m27LvGqi051205@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ed@fxq.nl, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118512: [New port] www/webkit-gtk X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:57:16 -0000 Synopsis: [New port] www/webkit-gtk State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 21:56:50 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: We have agreed to mark this PR as suspended. We current have this in MC CVS, but we feel that webkit-gtk isn't ready. The webkit-gtk's API/ABI aren't stable and it might breaks other stuff often. It probably will coming with GNOME 2.24 or when webkit-gtk is complete ready. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118512 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 21:57:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDB21065673; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546D38FC20; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27Lvg4o051258; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:42 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27Lvg0H051254; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:42 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:57:42 GMT Message-Id: <200803072157.m27Lvg0H051254@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ed@fxq.nl, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/118514: [Patch] www/epiphany: Fix plist and add WebKit support X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:57:42 -0000 Synopsis: [Patch] www/epiphany: Fix plist and add WebKit support State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 21:57:25 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: We have agreed to mark this PR as suspended. We current have this in MC CVS, but we feel that webkit-gtk isn't ready. The webkit-gtk's API/ABI aren't stable and it might breaks other stuff often. It probably will coming with GNOME 2.24 or when webkit-gtk is complete ready. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118514 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 7 22:40:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47A61065677; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB74C8FC1F; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (mezz@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m27MefUP055079; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:40:41 GMT (envelope-from mezz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from mezz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m27MefWb055075; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:40:41 GMT (envelope-from mezz) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:40:41 GMT Message-Id: <200803072240.m27MefWb055075@freefall.freebsd.org> To: lordsith49@hotmail.com, mezz@FreeBSD.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org From: mezz@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:40:42 -0000 Synopsis: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: mezz State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 7 22:39:24 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: I can reproduce it, I have enabled Perl plugin and tested this script: http://tim.codestorm.net/projects/xchat-sysinfo/ It will crashing. The backtraces isn't working, but I will trying to figure how to get the good backtraces. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=121472 From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 8 03:30:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2B21065670 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AC78FC1B for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m283U3BX077205 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m283U3rm077202; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:30:03 GMT Message-Id: <200803080330.m283U3rm077202@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnome@FreeBSD.org From: "Jeremy Messenger" Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeremy Messenger List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:30:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/121472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Jeremy Messenger" To: bug-followup@freebsd.org, lordsith49@hotmail.com Cc: Subject: Re: ports/121472: Loading perl scripts causes irc/xchat segmentation fault Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:24:56 -0600 If I reinstall perl with WITHOUT_PERL_MALLOC=3Dyes and it solves this = problem. Perl's malloc is probably broke or something else. I don't know= = yet, so maybe I should compare it with 5.8.7 to see what has changed in = = 5.8.8. Maybe I can take 5.8.7's malloc.c and put it in 5.8.8 to see if i= t = will working. Cheers, Mezz -- = mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org