From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 11:25:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BB6106564A for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62558FC14 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1185884yxb.13 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=jA9Ry0BnmIys9oh8yfuC1Q70Gu6W1oAWr8ILf6Vxxw0=; b=KxY5BLLxCixGoPI61udnMtG5Kkcz74qBiKCBRjxJ0nzAgM7VHg8ERQHz2f15sYSq5L whG3IQWZxSny1I25k5ZbJCouKAqUacjmyZ4wS4nk3/oLBB43B4G8o+luVuur+aD/jbLN bP0GxPjM87XcjQyxcs8Du8OeR0yxxEy9c6A/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YN3OMS1+tjahL45Rm4g9UGXxDgoqNRYZ6EbbuoPKi9ZZnvNIu1c94FZn9gcgD7eP9N ga/huwX/CJBST2kFV4QRKou+WoM27yi1bpp6i+5fwMYXEpH1+ff0VgjgQJ2RCC1HdaPS szsk0qbEnjyAAQyFdr8NFDqVwchlAlv+XXDCU= Received: by 10.142.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr4164442wfe.102.1216033042987; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:57:22 +0300 From: "tethys ocean" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Core(TM)2 Quad and TOP output X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:25:46 -0000 Hi all I have new server(webserver) quad core but performans is not well (according our old webserver pent IV ). Maybe its performans depends on our web page sourcecode. FreeBSD 6.3 stable is running on it. dmesg is in below. 1-I wonder in my TOP output can I see all CPU or not? last pid: 19887; load averages: 0.13, 0.04, 0.01 up 2+21:18:18 16:53:16 48 processes: 1 running, 47 sleeping CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 119M Active, 352M Inact, 126M Wired, 48K Cache, 112M Buf, 1401M Free Swap: 5120M Total, 5120M Free and also another question is 2-FreeBSD 7.0 has got default multiprocessor generic kernel??? since during installations only one generic kernel shown CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (2499.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10677 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 real memory = 2146959360 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2091646976 (1994 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbffffff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 atapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ata4: on atapci0 pcib4: irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci3: port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbfff800-0xfbfffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 rl0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffcff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci5 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:4c:f0:bf:a5 fwohci0: port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebff000-0xfebff7ff irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:1e:8c:00:01:25:6a:b7 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa880-0xa887,0xa800-0xa803,0xa480-0xa48f,0xa400-0xa40f irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata5: on atapci1 ata6: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: port 0xc000-0xc007,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb880-0xb887,0xb800-0xb803,0xb480-0xb48f,0xb400-0xb40f irq 22 at device 31.5 on pci0 ata7: on atapci2 ata8: on atapci2 acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad10: 343399MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 343399MB at ata6-master SATA300 acd0: DVDR at ata7-master SATA150 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad10s1a rl0: link state changed to UP Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...3 2 0 0 done All buffers synced. Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 11 01:39:06 EEST 2008 root@likya.bimel.com.tr:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LIKYA ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (2499.96-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10677 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 real memory = 2146959360 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2091802624 (1994 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jul 11 2008 01:38:57) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbffffff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 atapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ata4: on atapci0 pcib4: irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci3: port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbfff800-0xfbfffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 rl0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffcff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci5 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:4c:f0:bf:a5 fwohci0: port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebff000-0xfebff7ff irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:1e:8c:00:01:25:6a:b7 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa880-0xa887,0xa800-0xa803,0xa480-0xa48f,0xa400-0xa40f irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata5: on atapci1 ata6: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: port 0xc000-0xc007,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb880-0xb887,0xb800-0xb803,0xb480-0xb48f,0xb400-0xb40f irq 22 at device 31.5 on pci0 ata7: on atapci2 ata8: on atapci2 acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2499962812 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad10: 343399MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 343399MB at ata6-master SATA300 acd0: DVDR at ata7-master SATA150 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad10s1a rl0: link state changed to UP pid 75322 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) pid 87391 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...3 0 2 0 0 done All buffers synced. Uptime: 17h36m33s Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 11 01:39:06 EEST 2008 root@likya.bimel.com.tr:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LIKYA ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (2499.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10677 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 real memory = 2146959360 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2091802624 (1994 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jul 11 2008 01:38:57) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbffffff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 atapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ata4: on atapci0 pcib4: irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci3: port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbfff800-0xfbfffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 rl0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffcff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci5 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:4c:f0:bf:a5 fwohci0: port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebff000-0xfebff7ff irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:1e:8c:00:01:25:6a:b7 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:1e:8c:25:6a:b7 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa880-0xa887,0xa800-0xa803,0xa480-0xa48f,0xa400-0xa40f irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata5: on atapci1 ata6: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: port 0xc000-0xc007,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb880-0xb887,0xb800-0xb803,0xb480-0xb48f,0xb400-0xb40f irq 22 at device 31.5 on pci0 ata7: on atapci2 ata8: on atapci2 acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2499966667 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad10: 343399MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 343399MB at ata6-master SATA300 acd0: DVDR at ata7-master SATA150 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad10s1a rl0: link state changed to UP pid 835 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 743 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 741 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 1047 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 14778 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 1043 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 739 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 769 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 1042 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 894 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 14773 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 pid 1027 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 4 -- Share now a pigeon's flight Bluebound along the ancient skies, Its women forever hair and mammal, A Mediterranean town may arise If you rip apart a pigeon's heart. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 11:56:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76D9106564A for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from s1.active.sk (ns.active.sk [217.67.25.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AEC8FC12 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05395C147 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:46:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at active.sk Received: from s1.active.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4PXqqNidSCo6 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.active.sk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B181B5C133 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prx.spordat.sk ([85.248.64.126]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mex@active.sk) by mail.active.sk with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <481e66d58a50a7247ed0a175c2e3ce25.squirrel@mail.active.sk> In-Reply-To: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:46:12 +0200 (CEST) From: "MeX" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Core(TM)2 Quad and TOP output X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mex@active.sk List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:56:23 -0000 On Pon, Júl 14, 2008 12:57, tethys ocean wrote: > 1-I wonder in my TOP output can I see all CPU or not? Yes, you can see all 4 cores. When 4 procesees are running you will see load 4.0 4.0 4.0. > 2-FreeBSD 7.0 has got default multiprocessor generic kernel??? since > during installations only one generic kernel shown Yes, default GENERIC kernel (7.0) is SMP enabled. MeX From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 13:18:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DCD1065687 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E838FC1F for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMAANToekh5LH8R/2dsb2JhbAAIqUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,359,1212330600"; d="scan'208";a="159512625" Received: from ppp121-44-127-17.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [172.29.0.141]) ([121.44.127.17]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2008 22:33:27 +0930 Message-ID: <487B4E97.60806@fragfest.com.au> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:03:19 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mex@active.sk References: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> <481e66d58a50a7247ed0a175c2e3ce25.squirrel@mail.active.sk> In-Reply-To: <481e66d58a50a7247ed0a175c2e3ce25.squirrel@mail.active.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core(TM)2 Quad and TOP output X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:18:52 -0000 you may want to look at changing the scheduling scheme and tuning apache Dean MeX wrote: > On Pon, Júl 14, 2008 12:57, tethys ocean wrote: >> 1-I wonder in my TOP output can I see all CPU or not? > > Yes, you can see all 4 cores. When 4 procesees are running you will see > load 4.0 4.0 4.0. > >> 2-FreeBSD 7.0 has got default multiprocessor generic kernel??? since >> during installations only one generic kernel shown > > Yes, default GENERIC kernel (7.0) is SMP enabled. > > MeX > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 13:18:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED29910656CF for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from s1.active.sk (ns.active.sk [217.67.25.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF088FC13 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mex@active.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7955E5C168 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:18:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at active.sk Received: from s1.active.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.active.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3e-3nd5LEZp6 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:18:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.active.sk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by s1.active.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F715C16B for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:18:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prx.spordat.sk ([85.248.64.126]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mex@active.sk) by mail.active.sk with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:18:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2e41a6c77c47d9b648f76dd799cfca99.squirrel@mail.active.sk> In-Reply-To: <487B4E97.60806@fragfest.com.au> References: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> <481e66d58a50a7247ed0a175c2e3ce25.squirrel@mail.active.sk> <487B4E97.60806@fragfest.com.au> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:18:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "MeX" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Core(TM)2 Quad and TOP output X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mex@active.sk List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:19:00 -0000 On Pon, Júl 14, 2008 15:03, Dean Hamstead wrote: > you may want to look at changing the scheduling scheme and tuning apache > > Dean > > MeX wrote: >> On Pon, Júl 14, 2008 12:57, tethys ocean wrote: >>> 1-I wonder in my TOP output can I see all CPU or not? >> >> Yes, you can see all 4 cores. When 4 procesees are running you will see >> load 4.0 4.0 4.0. >> >>> 2-FreeBSD 7.0 has got default multiprocessor generic kernel??? since >>> during installations only one generic kernel shown >> >> Yes, default GENERIC kernel (7.0) is SMP enabled. I want to add to this that increasing/replacing hardware due to performance is the last step. First look at the application itself, next to the some "middleware" as Apache/PHP/Perl tuning and of course also to OS level. MeX From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 14:14:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33E7106566B for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17128FC22 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C99EE1CC098; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:14:31 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Dean Hamstead Message-ID: <20080714141431.GA49293@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <235b80000807140357m351f801bw254aab35367682bb@mail.gmail.com> <481e66d58a50a7247ed0a175c2e3ce25.squirrel@mail.active.sk> <487B4E97.60806@fragfest.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <487B4E97.60806@fragfest.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: mex@active.sk, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core(TM)2 Quad and TOP output X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:14:32 -0000 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:03:19PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: > you may want to look at changing the scheduling scheme and tuning apache Please note that he should consider changing the scheduler to ULE on the 7.x machine only -- stick with 4BSD on the 6.x machine. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 09:33:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A931065673 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe07.swip.net [212.247.154.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FF78FC14 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RS3XF5jzCkUA:10 a=WgcDcu6fwegA:10 a=BSzgLLATEQ_EGcnE1HQA:9 a=Abt19Q3WRVF9qj0K5o7c_j9v_FAA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Received: from [193.217.167.134] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO [10.0.0.249]) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.4b) with ESMTPA id 1007121184 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:33:27 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:35:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807151035.05427.hselasky@c2i.net> Subject: Thinking about buying a new computer - attack code for Intel chips X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:33:31 -0000 Hi, According to the latest news on Slashdot there are now exploits going around attacking INTEL CPU bugs. Does anyone have a clue about what architectures and CPUs are safe? My computer is getting old and I might buy a new one. Any recommendations for a safe choice? --HPS From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 10:19:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109331065676 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC28D8FC18 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E532B1CC097; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:19:22 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Hans Petter Selasky Message-ID: <20080715101922.GA17620@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <200807151035.05427.hselasky@c2i.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200807151035.05427.hselasky@c2i.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinking about buying a new computer - attack code for Intel chips X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:19:23 -0000 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:35:04AM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > According to the latest news on Slashdot there are now exploits going around > attacking INTEL CPU bugs. Does anyone have a clue about what architectures > and CPUs are safe? My computer is getting old and I might buy a new one. Any > recommendations for a safe choice? Is this a trolling attempt? It almost sounds like one. The Slashdot article reference in question: http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2008kl/?page_id=214 There's no details provided. It may all be speculative (I strongly doubt it), but no one will know until the presentation takes place. My advice to you is buy whatever it is you wish to buy. Every computing product that is released to consumers has bugs in it -- we're humans, we make mistakes. Besides, if the presentation involves present-day Intel microprocessors, all that (should be) necessary is a microcode patch to address the concerns. It always amuses me how Intel always seems to draw scrutiny. Yes, because I'm absolutely sure AMD, VIA, and Transmeta processors are all flawless. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 20:43:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDB7106566C for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from developer@grinz.com) Received: from mail.boomhaus.com (emerson.grinz.com [64.219.233.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C698FC19 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from developer@grinz.com) Received: from [192.168.1.95] (adsl-074-170-092-099.sip.mem.bellsouth.net [74.170.92.99]) by mail.boomhaus.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DBF185 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:22:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:25:16 -0500 From: Ross Gohlke User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: developer@grinz.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:43:31 -0000 I'm setting up a colocated server (not yet procured) as a remote X11 environment for 10 business users with broadband Internet access. It will be their primary work computer, offering a full suite of applications. Graphics-wise, they are not playing video games or watching movies but will want to view the occasional YouTube clip. What are the graphics requirements of X11 in a low-video, multi-user environment? What do you recommend for hardware? This is for a 1U enclosure. I would like to do it as cheaply as possible. - Slot type for card upgrade - PCI-X is the most ubiquitous for 1U; would it work? - Minimum on-board RAM - Chipset - GeForce? - Video card - Motherboard - I'm looking at Tyan GX28 (2881) http://www.tyan.com/archive/products/html/gx28b2881_spec.html Thanks. Ross Gohlke From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 23:09:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9DF1065687 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) Received: from aramaki.bong.com.au (aramaki.bong.com.au [202.76.172.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC2D8FC1C for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) Received: from optimus.optusnet.com.au ([203.10.68.27]) by aramaki.bong.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.61 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KIte0-000NtL-5G; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:09:16 +1000 Message-ID: <487D2E47.7060202@fragfest.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:09:59 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: developer@grinz.com References: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> In-Reply-To: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:09:17 -0000 if the machine is running remote X sessions, the local video hardware is irrelevant what you need is RAM, fast disks and raw cpu grunt. Dean Ross Gohlke wrote: > I'm setting up a colocated server (not yet procured) as a remote X11 > environment for 10 business users with broadband Internet access. > It will be their primary work computer, offering a full suite of > applications. Graphics-wise, they are not playing video games or > watching movies but will want to view the occasional YouTube clip. > > What are the graphics requirements of X11 in a low-video, multi-user > environment? > What do you recommend for hardware? > > This is for a 1U enclosure. > I would like to do it as cheaply as possible. > - Slot type for card upgrade - PCI-X is the most ubiquitous for 1U; > would it work? > - Minimum on-board RAM > - Chipset - GeForce? > - Video card > - Motherboard - I'm looking at Tyan GX28 (2881) > http://www.tyan.com/archive/products/html/gx28b2881_spec.html > > > Thanks. > > Ross Gohlke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://fragfest.com.au From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 00:18:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40BF1065681 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justin.walker.hall@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3698FC16 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justin.walker.hall@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so2057768nfh.33 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:18:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=CCdZxcIPlgwjc/NCJ5VgakHdmruByeSkVrAbG3Pf/aI=; b=pcGQf89helScTG/3+uW+/ZtszodNZHOvUoilft1kYRI82JXXkID4uKhyjmrCkNFrzU XR8G0g9nugVkunY1BDnVmc+QsJkI4Br9dEZimpYrhu2EaxpUc8Ifh7b8964y+AVaQxys 0iVrjAn/agGY4E9JvgWEqMMIKBu07UwKBJbJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=omK/qy4oJP24tx8MS6tloNs156go6GhUWDk8pXjPC015JnPzYqDnaZaNZrAxODBi+v 6lkB0abA63/X+sDZ5iA81QDXkUTnyxBQQ0FbtIbzx/2mqj4hj4a/0oI1KrPU2ySPTjK7 s6ACQdnobLfPet4X+qMoi+W2mdCkuLG1rz3vU= Received: by 10.210.19.4 with SMTP id 4mr10522902ebs.58.1216166020427; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.116.12 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:53:40 -0500 From: "Justin Hall" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IP35-E USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:18:28 -0000 Hello All, I am having troubles with getting a machine with an ABIT IP35-E (ICH9 chipset) board to boot fully. It hangs after probing uhub1. I have updated the BIOS and rebuilt from the latest STABLE sources in the CVS repository to no avail. The only way I can get it to boot is by disabling my onboard USB controller, which is obviously not a good solution. Any help is appreciated, Justin Hall From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 08:08:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1BB106570C for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe06.swip.net [212.247.154.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073EF8FC08 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=MX9rHVT9m7rzv78Se6gA:9 a=LYcASkVb2uF4XXVNoccA:7 a=eSPDbvXUOcfYpMH8cP9r3oAaRGAA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: from [193.217.167.134] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO [10.0.0.249]) by mailfe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.4b) with ESMTPA id 1009491704; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:08:50 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:10:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807161010.28387.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: Justin Hall Subject: Re: IP35-E USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:08:52 -0000 On Wednesday 16 July 2008, Justin Hall wrote: > Hello All, > > I am having troubles with getting a machine with an ABIT IP35-E (ICH9 > chipset) board to boot fully. It hangs after probing uhub1. I have updated > the BIOS and rebuilt from the latest STABLE sources in the CVS repository > to no avail. The only way I can get it to boot is by disabling my onboard > USB controller, which is obviously not a good solution. > > Any help is appreciated, > > Justin Hall > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Can you enter into the debugger (CTRL+ALT+ESC) and dump the interrupt stats. Maybe the interrupt handler is looping. --HPS From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 11:48:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7142106566B for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8617F8FC1F for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1515703yxb.13 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lYZYdBU3joRnIN4F/4Vel2S1vtA3t90cVkf9BqxI/ys=; b=EI/QgBSAHPCSiCMhzqXkQ9qKN4RqzVPPWgc+k5pBlBPwwWgOsjiilGb5/aDhLGhJ40 ZRGun1ZJ4Ljj+4u/A67J4W37Q2Mg2XcpeB8GYwwpdvk8TPt90blzGSJUfuLO4MhpDW89 P3GJCucWFhyJVffBobXXgY4JvavcAH8VQSzGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hFV4i8igd6XDw35fTaz7MD4CMEc/9W0jukbdFblC4DLrUcrQOP7KHgpdhv/IlWw13z aXYVGCKLiuADFPbEV9l5uXYb14vuk4YoI7q23xQrwAnGdEcnVoysvGWVZ9d8l2ovUDVQ lG+gTPO7LCuBlKkLDr4wPWTs6Qpx0SYKeC3XE= Received: by 10.103.247.14 with SMTP id z14mr802100mur.39.1216208883849; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807160448g477cbbd8i26423e70a9294f19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:48:03 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: developer@grinz.com In-Reply-To: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 -0000 > I'm setting up a colocated server (not yet procured) as a remote X11 > environment for 10 business users with broadband Internet access. > It will be their primary work computer, offering a full suite of > applications. Graphics-wise, they are not playing video games or watching > movies but will want to view the occasional YouTube clip. > > What are the graphics requirements of X11 in a low-video, multi-user > environment? > What do you recommend for hardware? This sounds quite backwards. First the server would get video from youtube that's compressed at something like 20-50x and then decode that on the server to send almost raw video over the remote X session? I seriously doubt anybody with a even a home broadband access would enjoy that video. And to what point? Unless you're giving them personal dummy terminals they are going to access the remote X desktop from a normal PC. and that normal pc should itself be able to play the videos. Now cheaping yourself out on ram sounds quite foolish. All the cpu power in the world won't help you if it's not spent because the machine is swapping. And besides, it's not THAT expensive. I don't know exactly what type of apps your people are using but i guess the main point of a setup like this is to keep the company documents,etc on the machine. So at an minimum they might be running some mail and openoffice client? So a few hundred megs of ram for each client would be a minium, prolly half a gig or so to be on the safe side for the future (This only counts in the office app + some tiny mail client, adjust for other scenarios and test!). / Jonas From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 16:09:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5091065670 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.30.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 788218FC12 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: (qmail 3410 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jul 2008 15:52:44 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail342.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 15:52:44 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 15:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (maciej@suszko.eu@62.61.57.118) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 15:42:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:42:33 +0200 From: Maciej Suszko To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/_FzWoDGHJbvBqVDs2QaSb32"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 1654791389489619041 X-Ovh-Remote: 62.61.57.118 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:09:28 -0000 --Sig_/_FzWoDGHJbvBqVDs2QaSb32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think about buying Dell PE2950 with SAS 6/iR integrated RAID controller. It would be double Intel Quad Core Xeon E5420 with 3.5" SAS 15k RPM disks connected to SAS 6/iR RAID controller. I'm curious if anyone is running FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE on such machine and if there any problems with this controller - is SAS 6/iR supported by mpt or mfi? Anyone happily using it? --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/_FzWoDGHJbvBqVDs2QaSb32 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkh+FukACgkQCikUk0l7iGo1hwCeMwQfR91D6a9vkP63G88oihiw kugAn3t3DreitnbjR/poALmyIReM+ULF =sHlF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/_FzWoDGHJbvBqVDs2QaSb32-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 17:43:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442B1065676 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A747B8FC13 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.10.102] ([74.56.107.65]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K4300H2EYGHKCG1@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:44:53 -0400 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) To: Maciej Suszko References: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> In-reply-to: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:43:55 -0000 Maciej Suszko a écrit : > I think about buying Dell PE2950 with SAS 6/iR integrated RAID > controller. It would be double Intel Quad Core Xeon E5420 with 3.5" SAS > 15k RPM disks connected to SAS 6/iR RAID controller. > > I'm curious if anyone is running FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE on such machine > and if there any problems with this controller - is SAS 6/iR supported > by mpt or mfi? Anyone happily using it? > I never tried SAS 6 but I have SAS 5 in a few Dell servers and it's performance is horrible. I tried some tips I read to optimize the performance but none worked (I must admit that I didn't tried that hard but still...). Just to compare, I have the exact same disk (the same 3,5" SAS 15K that you plan to buy) in a PowerEdge 860 with SAS 5 and in a PowerEdge 1950 with PERC5 (both in RAID 1) and the performance are like day and night (tested with dbench): SAS 5: Throughput 98.9811 MB/sec 4 procs PERC5: Throughput 321.704 MB/sec 4 procs The last server I bought is a PowerEdge 840 with PERC5 but this time with 7200RPM SATA drives (3 in RAID 5) and the performance is still impressive : Throughput 266.81 MB/sec 4 procs I highly recommand upgrading to the PERC controller. SAS5 is recognized by the mpt driver and PERC5 by mfi. YMMV, Martin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 19:57:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73011065675 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from 42.mail-out.ovh.net (42.mail-out.ovh.net [213.251.189.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C2938FC23 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: (qmail 7014 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jul 2008 19:57:36 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail194.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 42.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 19:57:36 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 19:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (maciej@suszko.eu@62.61.57.118) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 19:57:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:57:42 +0200 From: Maciej Suszko To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> In-Reply-To: <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> References: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/zLayg=a4+AZxgGkglslwKM+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 5961921483311833128 X-Ovh-Remote: 62.61.57.118 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: Re: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:57:50 -0000 --Sig_/zLayg=a4+AZxgGkglslwKM+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD wrote: > Maciej Suszko a =E9crit : > > I think about buying Dell PE2950 with SAS 6/iR integrated RAID > > controller. It would be double Intel Quad Core Xeon E5420 with 3.5" > > SAS 15k RPM disks connected to SAS 6/iR RAID controller. > > > > I'm curious if anyone is running FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE on such machine > > and if there any problems with this controller - is SAS 6/iR > > supported by mpt or mfi? Anyone happily using it? > > =20 > I never tried SAS 6 but I have SAS 5 in a few Dell servers and it's=20 > performance is horrible. I tried some tips I read to optimize the=20 > performance but none worked (I must admit that I didn't tried that > hard but still...). Just to compare, I have the exact same disk (the > same 3,5" SAS 15K that you plan to buy) in a PowerEdge 860 with SAS 5 > and in a PowerEdge 1950 with PERC5 (both in RAID 1) and the > performance are like day and night (tested with dbench): > SAS 5: Throughput 98.9811 MB/sec 4 procs > PERC5: Throughput 321.704 MB/sec 4 procs >=20 > The last server I bought is a PowerEdge 840 with PERC5 but this time=20 > with 7200RPM SATA drives (3 in RAID 5) and the performance is still=20 > impressive : Throughput 266.81 MB/sec 4 procs >=20 > I highly recommand upgrading to the PERC controller. >=20 > SAS5 is recognized by the mpt driver and PERC5 by mfi. >=20 > YMMV, >=20 > Martin Thanks for reply Martin, I think I'm not gonna take the risk and I stay with PERC5 controller. Have you used integrated PERC5 or external one? And one more question - how about controller monitoring - there is a sysutils/linux-megacli, have you tested it? Is it working with your PERC? --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/zLayg=a4+AZxgGkglslwKM+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkh+UrYACgkQCikUk0l7iGrR1QCcCxRit4hJwV910NfRLx/r0Spc Tz4An3rDhZxdxgqvcFTTiu5g9Fi8R2KJ =XYoo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/zLayg=a4+AZxgGkglslwKM+-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 20:55:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96121065673 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from developer@grinz.com) Received: from mail.boomhaus.com (emerson.grinz.com [64.219.233.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D12C8FC16 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from developer@grinz.com) Received: from quine.local (unknown [32.135.225.65]) by mail.boomhaus.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7188885 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <487E602D.50504@grinz.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:55:09 -0500 From: Ross Gohlke User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> <436c7eda0807160448g477cbbd8i26423e70a9294f19@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <436c7eda0807160448g477cbbd8i26423e70a9294f19@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: developer@grinz.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:55:44 -0000 What am I trying to accomplish? A hosted service offering a secure, persistent desktop and file transfers across platforms, devices and timezones. The only applications required on the client end - ssh and vnc - are available (often freely) for every major PC and smartphone OS. There is only one user right now -- me. 10 is an arbitrary benchmark: how much hardware would 10 users require? The hardware will scale, but what is required to get started? Do I A) buy an upgradable computer now and upgrade components piecemeal as demand grows. B) buy a "cheap" computer now and an expensive computer when demand grows. I am leaning toward B) right now. Jonas Lund wrote: >> I'm setting up a colocated server (not yet procured) as a remote X11 >> environment for 10 business users with broadband Internet access. >> It will be their primary work computer, offering a full suite of >> applications. Graphics-wise, they are not playing video games or watching >> movies but will want to view the occasional YouTube clip. >> >> What are the graphics requirements of X11 in a low-video, multi-user >> environment? >> What do you recommend for hardware? >> > > This sounds quite backwards. First the server would get video from > youtube that's compressed at something like 20-50x and then decode > that on the server to send almost raw video over the remote X session? > I seriously doubt anybody with a even a home broadband access would > enjoy that video. > Playing media is the lowest priority of the system. The point was simply that embedded media encountered during the normal course of browsing COULD be played. One advantage of surfing from a remote computer is that your actual location and network are not exposed. One might find a few videos one would prefer to watch poorly yet anonymously. > And to what point? Unless you're giving them personal dummy terminals > they are going to access the remote X desktop from a normal PC. and > that normal pc should itself be able to play the videos. > I can think of some places around the world where a "normal PC" probably can't play videos. The goal is a service that can be accessed as easily from an ancient PC as a new one. > Now cheaping yourself out on ram sounds quite foolish. All the cpu > power in the world won't help you if it's not spent because the > machine is swapping. And besides, it's not THAT expensive. > I don't know exactly what type of apps your people are using but i > guess the main point of a setup like this is to keep the company > documents,etc on the machine. So at an minimum they might be running > some mail and openoffice client? So a few hundred megs of ram for each > client would be a minium, prolly half a gig or so to be on the safe > side for the future (This only counts in the office app + some tiny > mail client, adjust for other scenarios and test!). > A ha! Hard numbers. Thank you. I was planning on 500MB RAM per user. Can we do the same thing with processor MHz? I was thinking 200MHz per user. Typical usage scenario: Get to the office. Turn on your computer. Launch PuTTY (log in). Launch VNCViewer. Your desktop is as you left it - an email is half-written in Thunderbird; Firefox has 5 tabs open with half-finished research on php-gtk. During the day you will use Open Office to draft a sales letter or a spreadsheet; Pidgin to chat with colleagues and friends; an address book and calendar. Anything you need to print is printed to PDF, downloaded with PSFTP and printed out locally. Upload your entire music collection. Manage your playlists on - and stream them from - the server. Ross From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 00:11:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A826B1065671 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0898FC14 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K4400M9QJ73TUE0@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K44002QEJ733950@pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx ([24.87.3.133]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K44009ONJ72V400@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:11:26 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080716171126.0987232f@soralx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> Cc: maciej@suszko.eu Subject: Re: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:11:54 -0000 > I think I'm not gonna take the risk and I stay with PERC5 controller. > Have you used integrated PERC5 or external one? And one more question - > how about controller monitoring - there is a sysutils/linux-megacli, > have you tested it? Is it working with your PERC? doesn't seem to work with amd64 (finds zero adapters) [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 03:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180F6106566C for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C768FC17 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.10.102] ([74.56.107.65]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K4400H2VR4Q1SA0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <487EB696.5070901@optiksecurite.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:03:50 -0400 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) To: Maciej Suszko References: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> In-reply-to: <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:03:02 -0000 Maciej Suszko a écrit : > FreeBSD wrote: > >> Maciej Suszko a écrit : >> >>> I think about buying Dell PE2950 with SAS 6/iR integrated RAID >>> controller. It would be double Intel Quad Core Xeon E5420 with 3.5" >>> SAS 15k RPM disks connected to SAS 6/iR RAID controller. >>> >>> I'm curious if anyone is running FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE on such machine >>> and if there any problems with this controller - is SAS 6/iR >>> supported by mpt or mfi? Anyone happily using it? >>> >>> >> I never tried SAS 6 but I have SAS 5 in a few Dell servers and it's >> performance is horrible. I tried some tips I read to optimize the >> performance but none worked (I must admit that I didn't tried that >> hard but still...). Just to compare, I have the exact same disk (the >> same 3,5" SAS 15K that you plan to buy) in a PowerEdge 860 with SAS 5 >> and in a PowerEdge 1950 with PERC5 (both in RAID 1) and the >> performance are like day and night (tested with dbench): >> SAS 5: Throughput 98.9811 MB/sec 4 procs >> PERC5: Throughput 321.704 MB/sec 4 procs >> >> The last server I bought is a PowerEdge 840 with PERC5 but this time >> with 7200RPM SATA drives (3 in RAID 5) and the performance is still >> impressive : Throughput 266.81 MB/sec 4 procs >> >> I highly recommand upgrading to the PERC controller. >> >> SAS5 is recognized by the mpt driver and PERC5 by mfi. >> >> YMMV, >> >> Martin >> > > Thanks for reply Martin, > > I think I'm not gonna take the risk and I stay with PERC5 controller. > Have you used integrated PERC5 or external one? And one more question - > how about controller monitoring - there is a sysutils/linux-megacli, > have you tested it? Is it working with your PERC? > I have the PERC5/i but I can't say that it is "integrated". It's a PCI-Express x4, IIRC. I think that the difference between the I and E is that the E would have an external connector, but I can't say for sure. I think you should stay with the PERC5/i and I think that the E is more expensive too. For the monitoring, I never tried linux-megacli because (for no good reason) I'm not a fan of linux emulation. Instead, I did a small shell script that grep /var/log/messages for entries related to mfi and email it to me. The messages in case of failure are pretty clear. I put the script in crontab so that it runs every half-hour. It does the job very well for me. Martin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 03:04:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700161065670 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468A48FC18 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.10.102] ([74.56.107.65]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K4400H6KR7P1SA0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <487EB702.8010804@optiksecurite.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:05:38 -0400 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) To: soralx@cydem.org References: <20080716174233.1232a5f3@suszko.eu> <487E2585.7080409@optiksecurite.com> <20080716215742.17a82b52@suszko.eu> <20080716171126.0987232f@soralx> In-reply-to: <20080716171126.0987232f@soralx> Cc: maciej@suszko.eu, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PE2950 - SAS 6/iR X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:04:38 -0000 soralx@cydem.org a écrit : >> I think I'm not gonna take the risk and I stay with PERC5 controller. >> Have you used integrated PERC5 or external one? And one more question - >> how about controller monitoring - there is a sysutils/linux-megacli, >> have you tested it? Is it working with your PERC? >> > > doesn't seem to work with amd64 (finds zero adapters) > > [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It works fine for me on amd64 with FreeBSD 7.0 Martin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 11:31:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5B51065677 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raixun@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AEE8FC35 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raixun@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so776627uge.37 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=jGs/2sPrDdlyui8ohl1KgeiegCXTT1o8SwN7bXYHwB8=; b=CNGSFpSK8wCGWoYAygZOeeOGit1zYe68UF5wqeZI/kBLHbK16GodT8VDondWXpVhuJ E57jXlwDBLI1yn+NRKTmHU9HKJaTWfALw4CNqwn8BKAMv2z7Yp32wSwf/l2w3DPGnrbI uLCcJa6+b5WDgb8dWrHcl6tawL8ncdQ4NG7mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=HdiRrf+1XR7trjVaIIuwXpZqq70nW2bjJxFaA0efBiayYJ6i60a3BBqTECpaGySYJu 5Dmb6FXElYtOp+4oT63ZiKkY9IPK3YCU4Ton72SZCi4bVUX70n+llECIMpuPVRhkwjB5 ateKUJw/aiKpT82EGm6PVU0npPejU4LJq17+k= Received: by 10.210.16.17 with SMTP id 17mr1005728ebp.127.1216292562104; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.132.9 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2826dfe80807170402n69135606l9c702e0b439930ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:02:42 +0300 From: "baran xyz" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ]F1] Usb modem Driver for Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:31:47 -0000 Hi im a slackware linux user i decided use FreeBSD now but FreeBSD dont work with my usb modem i can run my usb adsl modem with eciadsl driver => http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/index.php Also There are eciadsl driver for Freebsd but it is under development. http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/faq.php?faq_lang=en#q5.9 my usb adsl modem Pikatel USB ADSL MODEM with globespan 7470 chipset is that possible i enable enter to internet with my usb modem ? best regards From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 11:49:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D81106566B for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C428FC16 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1652009yxb.13 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:49:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wrESBm1q3QkKAhdRv5wnxlhV1V/zPcjYRt880UqO+LU=; b=u+m3oY/+8Gu6AtShcdCMGMietJXyRvplDCg64X6giQGkn/yykRo7fEio2ZO2623K54 GYJXG5/iXRqswJtb2RF90zc8YTN1BERxw0L9RoEun9s+s9QKp75DH0Zv0c/66F711FC0 +uBxvqB3ZWnfDC+C/rYBbaizjz23FbSiw8cFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xm6ezzjGmrjDfUwciRpLa9lIgarmOGWMO7+i4bYDwQfdNisLTUz3/BLYSFZoAMysmu E6M9OiCcnU9ImLNkprEmCsMTk8Rgv40qCDjrRv1nvoRqv83UinW5ufIZTlIFLQU4sbb1 uAm8u8+LamUzF2dUQBIRsBLMmvEyfJftaNjsE= Received: by 10.103.11.5 with SMTP id o5mr1817951mui.85.1216295369060; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807170449n15ebb789t841ec0757973ab89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:49:28 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: developer@grinz.com In-Reply-To: <487E602D.50504@grinz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> <436c7eda0807160448g477cbbd8i26423e70a9294f19@mail.gmail.com> <487E602D.50504@grinz.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:49:31 -0000 > The only applications required on the client end - ssh and vnc - are > available (often freely) for every major PC and smartphone OS. I'd take a peek at tightvnc or ultravnc. I know that atleast tightvnc supports more and newer encoding methods that could bring down the bandwidth requirement. (And if you indtend it to be run in strange places, bandwidth will be very important as slow links makes vnc unbearable) > There is only one user right now -- me. 10 is an arbitrary benchmark: how > much hardware would 10 users require? I doubt you'll get an good answer without actually running this. I definetly support the notion of going for a cheap computer... as long as it has plenty of ram! > Playing media is the lowest priority of the system. The point was simply > that embedded media encountered during the normal course of browsing COULD > be played. > One advantage of surfing from a remote computer is that your actual location > and network are not exposed. One might find a few videos one would prefer to > watch poorly yet anonymously. > > I can think of some places around the world where a "normal PC" probably > can't play videos. > The goal is a service that can be accessed as easily from an ancient PC as a > new one. > > A ha! Hard numbers. Thank you. I was planning on 500MB RAM per user. Can we > do the same thing with processor MHz? I was thinking 200MHz per user. If you open a few tabs with swedens biggest online newspaper you're gonna make firefox unresponsive regardless of your cpu. My entire old singlecore 1ghz laptop became unresponsive by doing this prior to me installing noscript(This is on windows tho). Videos or flash animations are going to create alot of "uncompressed" data sent over the wire using vnc. I don't have hard and exact numbers here but from experience i'd say that looking at the same video over vnc/ssh would require about as much cpu as watching the video directly but with greater bandwidth requirement. This is because the big amount of data that is going to need much cputime for decryption > Typical usage scenario: > Get to the office. Turn on your computer. Launch PuTTY (log in). Launch > VNCViewer. If you're gonna do this for nontechnical people you should look at making an integrated vnc viewer with ssh built in. (Or finding one.. check tightvnc and ultravnc) > Your desktop is as you left it - an email is half-written in Thunderbird; > Firefox has 5 tabs open with half-finished research on php-gtk. > During the day you will use Open Office to draft a sales letter or a > spreadsheet; Pidgin to chat with colleagues and friends; an address book and > calendar. Anything you need to print is printed to PDF, downloaded with > PSFTP and printed out locally. Doing all this wouldn't require much more than "peak" cpu tops. So you could prolly get away with a fairly cheap cpu. If you allow flash and other media stuff in firefox f.ex. i have no idea what will happen. > Upload your entire music collection. Manage your playlists on - and stream > them from - the server. Umm,.. does vnc even support sound? What you really need is testing. I'd say get some el-cheapo thingy and add lots of ram (I will stand by that, you don't notice ram until you run out of it :) and force some friends or something to stress it. / Jonas From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 12:13:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EE11065673 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe15.swipnet.se [212.247.155.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43088FC1E for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a-Laukd0AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=gq4i8kuuhbRgRFSd34IA:9 a=JpMY6NmSjHU2E7XmerkA:7 a=Mi47U4zQ3JQzEzx9xXFWOfpiNAEA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: from [193.217.167.134] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO [10.0.0.249]) by mailfe15.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.4b) with ESMTPA id 269014591; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:13:32 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:15:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <2826dfe80807170402n69135606l9c702e0b439930ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2826dfe80807170402n69135606l9c702e0b439930ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807171415.12306.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: baran xyz Subject: Re: ]F1] Usb modem Driver for Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:13:35 -0000 On Thursday 17 July 2008, baran xyz wrote: > Hi > im a slackware linux user i decided use FreeBSD now but FreeBSD dont work > with my usb modem i can run my usb adsl modem with eciadsl driver => > http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/index.php Also There are eciadsl driver for > Freebsd but it is under development. > http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/faq.php?faq_lang=en#q5.9 > my usb adsl modem Pikatel USB ADSL MODEM with globespan 7470 chipset > is that possible i enable enter to internet with my usb modem ? > > best regards > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Did you try loading: umodem if_cdce --HPS From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 18:38:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEFB1065683 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273888FC1A for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so30962pyb.10 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.49.6 with SMTP id b6mr1326435rvk.223.1216318216381; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.97.9 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <919383240807171110i4530b7fdo45ab2584a04739c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:10:16 -0400 From: "Edward Ruggeri" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Atheros Wireless Card Causes Page Fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:38:22 -0000 Hi, I originally sent this question to the freebsd-questions list, but I now realize that freebsd-hardware is probably a better recipient. I have a recently purchased Lenovo ThinkPad, with a Atheros 5212 wireless card (well, dmesg says it's an Atheros 5212; I believe it). It also has a wired internet connector, which works perfectly fine. I wish I was writing you from that computer, but I am at work right now and don't have the ThinkPad at my fingertips. I can update later tonight, but perhaps you can spot my error with just the somewhat incomplete information I have right now. I have compiled the Atheros driver and wireless support into my kernel: "device ath device ath_hal device ath_rate_sample device wlan device wlan_wep device wlan_ccmp device wlan_tkip" The card is detected correctly upon system startup. If I add ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" into /etc/rc.conf (or, alternatively, run dhclient ath0 as root) the system connects to the wireless router and gets an IP address successfully. (My wireless at home is unsecured). I go to test the connection in Lynx. Google loads (yay!). I submit a google search, that may load. But I rarely get a third page transmitted before I get a page fault. The error is quite like this person's (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-September/065608.html), though his problem didn't seem to be resolved on the list. In particular, the system reports a "fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode". Fault virtual address is 0x0, not 0xc, if it makes a difference. The fault code is also "supervisor read, page not present." The current process is ath0 taskq. To my (totally uneducated) eyes, this seems to be a driver problem. I am not certain of my wireless card's make/number, but I assume that it really is an Atheros 5212, not only because that's what FreeBSD says, but that's also what Lenovo ships as the basic ThinkPad card (I didn't go with Intel wireless). So if I'm using the right driver, I'm not sure what the issue might be. Any ideas? Thanks for any help you might have! Sincerely, -- Ned Ruggeri