From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:06:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAC316A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F62913C442 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07D25C22; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:09:08 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47A50568.90003@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:06:00 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <70020FB8530646E2A2D029BE675BFF9A@gdmckee.home> <200802021443.01476.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802021443.01476.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gordon McKee Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Intel=AE_G31_+_ICH7?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:06:01 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Saturday 02 February 2008 11:14:04 Gordon McKee wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Does anyone know how to get FreeBSD to work with the above chipset. Tried >> 6.3 and 7 ISO images. Get lots of disk and no NIC is detected. >> >> I have >> http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_spec.aspx?ID=en-u >> s0000345. >> > > RTL8111B should be supported with rl driver. Apparently it's not detected, so > a pciconf -lv |grep -A4 '^none' would help greatly. > > This was on the list a while ago about RealTek 8110. Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > > >Realtek has two devices for Gbit PCI: the 8169 and the reduced 8110. > > >They are both more or less the same - likely even the same chip inside, > > >but the later has pins reduced. > > >AFAIK the later can't have an external PHY, which you can't have anyway > > >if there is neither a connector or PHY itself connected on the board. > > >The 8168 is the successor for PCI express, with the 8111 being the new > > >reduced variant. > > >Both PCIe are detected but didn't run stable with our re(4), but it is > > >said that the latest driver fixes this and also adds a good speed > > >improvement. > > > > > > > Good Luck... -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:12:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EC016A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437DE13C45D for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9C65C22; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:16:00 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47A50704.9020809@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:12:52 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shinny knight References: <24462.97816.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <24462.97816.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:12:53 -0000 shinny knight wrote: > Hello, > > We are in the process of ordering few servers and we think to ask here first for any known issues with same. > BTW...company policy requires only Dell servers. Yes, I know...kinda snob^^ > Purpose for this server will be firewall (we are using PF with stateful rules) and custom kernel with NIC pooling compiled. > We hope this baby will deliver up to 800Mbps per NIC (4). > One thing is that Dell is not certifying Intel Gigabit NIC with FreeBSD. > Since in the kernel we have only > > 'device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card' > > Does this include also below specified device? > Is any of you using Intel® PRO 1000VT Quad Port Gigabit NIC? > Is kernel pooling option compatible or working with Intel® PRO 1000VT Quad Port Gigabit NIC? > > Appreciate any feedback or suggestion about same. > TIA > > Dell PowerEdge 1950 configuration: > > PowerEdge 1950 III: Quad Core Intel® Xeon® L5335, 2x4MB Cache, 2.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB > > Additional Processors:Quad Core Intel® Xeon® L5335, 2x4MB Cache, 2.0GHz, 1333MHz FSB > > Memory: 4GB 667MHz (4x1GB), Dual Ranked DIMMs > > Backplane: 1x2 Backplane for 3.5-inch Hard Drives > > Primary Controller: PERC6i SAS RAID Controller, 2x4 Connectors, Int, PCIe, > 256MB Cache > > Hard Drive Configuration: Integrated SAS/SATA RAID 1, PERC 6/i Integrated/SAS6/iR > > Primary Hard Drive: 250GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive > > 2nd Hard Drive: 250GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive > > Network Adapter: Intel® PRO 1000VT Quad Port Gigabit NIC, Copper, PCIe-4 > > CD/DVD Drive: 8X DVD-ROM > > > > Best regards, > Catalin > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I have the Intel Pro1000 running on a 1386 box FreeBSD 8.* No problems with it. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:23:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E528A16A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2937713C442 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona 1.7.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO [192.168.3.2]) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPA id 72327482; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:23:05 +0200 Message-ID: <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:23:03 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reinhold References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:23:08 -0000 Hi. Reinhold wrote: > Here is what I've done so far. > /usr/local/etc/mpd5/mpd.conf The config you have made probably suits to mpd3/4, but not to mpd5. Mpd5 uses alike commands, but general configuration idea is different. There is no mpd.links file in mpd5. Read new examples present in package. > default: > load wan1 > load wan2 Then it would be reasonable to merge "pptpd:" section here. > set ipcp ranges static-ip-0/32 isp-gateway-0/32 If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to specify IP to let them be negotiated. > load common_setting > > wan2: > new -i ng1 wan2 PPPoE1 > set iface route default > set iface up-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan2.sh > set iface down-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan2.sh > > set bundle authname "username1@provider" > set bundle password "passwd" > > set ipcp ranges static-ip-1/32 isp-gateway-1/32 > load common_setting > > common_setting: > set iface addrs 1.1.1.1 2.2.2.2 > set iface disable on-demand Without "on-demand" "set iface addrs" is useless. > set iface idle 0 This is default. > # PPTP > pt0: > set link type pptp > set pptp enable incoming > set pptp disable originate > set pptp disable windowing > set pptp self 127.0.0.1 It will be difficult to accept incoming while listening on 127.0.0.1. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:24:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4727416A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from n2.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.56.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1DDF13C459 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.29] by n2.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 00:11:59 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t2.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 00:11:59 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.154] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 00:11:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 00:11:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 206328.93255.bm@omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52232 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2008 00:11:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dnY2fOKQ7+Ip8FWrFNtriFBzyT7IIXfCUgKgXrImiLsfeU92d3++B76w1faZThmsyjI6FH5Xf73RgTTby8JcP/ZNuTI2nWkQi5FPfRvKxglH9j+rvEMltbhntwZrv8Ev760iGUp2u6za7EYPVosClwhRM4YjWW5++YWu2E35ekc=; X-YMail-OSG: y7RvB8oVM1k0.aufL.JWZmmtFDgWXX7SzG8o53h4bEicLyC2OnLmWauShiSn3fxF4Q-- Received: from [41.219.204.59] by web44808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:11:59 PST Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:11:59 -0800 (PST) From: shinny knight To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080202203055.B3847@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40373.51635.qm@web44808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 for PF firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:24:47 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Memory: 4GB 667MHz (4x1GB), Dual Ranked DIMMs incredibly important for firewall to have 4GB RAM. why not 64GB or more? ;) _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" :) For many reasons. Company policy is to prefer ordering 4GB RAM servers than upgrade later so that we can easily switch them to heavy-loaded jail or DB servers. Appreciate if anyone can advise on using Intel® PRO 1000VT Quad Port Gigabit NIC and what is the max throughput they got on same with or w/o pooling. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Catalin --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:47:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DC16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064CB13C448 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m130lj59095297; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Thierry Thomas" , "Stephen Montgomery-Smith" Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:49:13 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080101203256.GE51072@graf.pompo.net> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:47:49 -0000 Hi Thierry, Just checking, since the ports tree is unfrozen have all the patches to OO been applied to fix these problems? Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Thierry Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:33 PM > To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD > > > Le Mar 1 jan 08 à 21:21:43 +0100, Stephen Montgomery-Smith > > écrivait : > > > My personal wish list is that opencascade builds on FreeBSD-7 with the > > new stlport, and that octave-forge not be in its current > "IGNORE" state. > > But I fully appreciate that I must either wait, or help make it happen. > > A patch is ready for that, and is available at > > > > but I cannot commit it right now: it will fail without the patch > included in PR ports/118958. That means that we have to wait untill the > ports tree is totally unfrozen. > > Best regards, > -- > Th. Thomas. > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5 - Release Date: > 1/16/2008 12:00 AM > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 01:33:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BA216A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kimimeister@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355613C468 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kimimeister@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1526015waf.3 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Fy83MUvqvFzgMgnKBFmXnxGylfRm6RfY7J9KIWKj+es=; b=dDY02JfzeeESLPTpljTuZ9klrZ4nMjY3O7d8OfkglxqdV+aFF1l3k1NBdbpYhndB3u2sgk4ih4mBJvtbzUgyMX/lDuCwKvCWzLUy0P6MpwBJMATclaRmUfECUmW0+uhwBMZYPJEJT+qiTxUqT6oVJuKb/eQwLjxzvyov06S631k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=vJF6HxjEnClQDgS0dw1NSmMCMh87j4Hu+NE6S3ORf6c/4oWBuffnBdaous69UPvpMbWRc59mfa7+De6I4YiNB9dejF/CGe5oIdmVrVrtEKyapRGyNLR0sqUHpuy0Y7k7pUeq5aQFQBaNJwgxeqpqR5A/h+5+ZEYqoeLUOyd2LdQ= Received: by 10.114.130.1 with SMTP id c1mr5591585wad.52.1202002416812; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.201.15 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42b497160802021733m6a2e8655i1ff4f0e5ae01e8f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:33:36 +0000 From: Kimi To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080202231028.P4423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> <20080202231028.P4423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:33:37 -0000 On 02/02/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > [...] > i needed few hours to install things i use. not a very helpful comment at all. Durons were pretty crap. > [...] > by general there are lots of problems with nvidia as it's closed source. > i always avoid closed source. again, not helpful. some people do not have choice but to use a closed source driver. > [...] > > i would check if it will really work as it should - AT ALL, before buying. > xorg-driver-nv will be more then good enough, providing 3D is not needed. > [...] > any WORKING card should suffice for your needs. hehe -- Regards, Kimi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 01:35:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7FE16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44C313C4CE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JLTm1-00030w-JZ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:35:57 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m131ZvZo029135; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:35:57 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EEF94FCAC11; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:35:51 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20080203013551.GB62332@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:35:57 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:35:59 -0000 On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 09:12:27PM +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > > After running a 90 hour portupgrade job on my current Duron 1600 based system > I've persuaded myself that a hardware upgrade is due. > > I'm contemplating building a system around an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ CPU. I'm not > into games and overclocking so a relatively low end motherboard with > integrated graphics should suffice. I've been looking at a few specs, many of > them use Nvidia chipsets and I understand that there isn't a Nvidia graphics > driver for FreeBSD on the AMD64 platform. There are nvidia chipsets such as nforce4 which work with FreeBSD, I don't know about more recent ones but you can have a grovel through here: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > > If I choose a Nvidia based motherboard would I have to install the i386 > version of FreeBSD if I wanted to use the onboard graphics, in which case to > what extent would the overall performance suffer? No. You can use the nv driver: x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv You might want to use i386 if you've got less than 4GB of memory as some applications are only 32 bit such as Flash. > > My graphics needs are fairly modest, so long as I can use the Gimp to edit > some photos I'm OK, but playing the occasional DVD fairly smoothly would be a > bonus but not essential. Is there any alternative graphics driver which would > meet my needs? You'd be ok with nv which builds on i386 or AMD64. There is a proprietory driver which can be used on i386 but not AMD64: x11/nvidia-driver > > ... or should I just keep away from Nvidia and concentrate on something with > ATI graphics? I've just switched from an Nvidia card to ATI onboard and the nvidia card was better. The onboard ATI gives me a rather washed out picture. So my advice would be to avoid onboard graphics and get a cheap nvidia card. You can get them for about 20 quid for a 128MB card. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 01:36:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FCD16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kimimeister@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266B013C45D for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kimimeister@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1527185waf.3 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:36:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VOxoWzxUbeza9ju8wEcowyK2a2jBNl/Tz/KVKJRD8oA=; b=jK9+WrXUvCtyVWX+96T3RngPzXTnAtUQeSQP7ucI8QAavC6nS0gwWzmGYW7zHY8LBOqpd9IdtfMfr9HcPkOZC+Z2MYOCwxdEb1pxqrEIfdfO9gd8PssfXaHpvFKb2S0bjt4NCGKcVLfQwSYSDWm36NeqE77q1KoNjbfK/aE+XhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oEUnG/IoibvX7oHp02fn7H6qItQ+6bchZKYF8awaS7G2TromSoE/TfhaXm2Gr9tCSMMyEHBoawYalNL902TXg+JjuADv/HDCJ8vdW35QL/Pv1MboMZkk9b+Jw+vUVskJsgjG0rahtRn38nwS7NZHZuFhnVVrxJqCE/MVY5VtKPM= Received: by 10.114.146.1 with SMTP id t1mr5605362wad.20.1202002579756; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.201.15 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:36:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42b497160802021736x188e98f0sba17869a1fb2fe58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:36:19 +0000 From: Kimi To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802030006.06287.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> <20080202231028.P4423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802030006.06287.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Clarke Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:36:20 -0000 On 02/02/2008, Mel wrote: > [...] > > I'd really stay away from ATI, for your purposes, either go with nvidia or > Intel onboard. nothing wrong with xorg-driver-radeonhd or xorg-driver-ati for ATi/AMDs graphics cards, providing you don't need 3D now on newer hardwares. > -- > Mel -- Regards, Kimi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 02:43:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA2116A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+SY=10e1635e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF3413C44B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+SY=10e1635e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F59163F85 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADFC23E3E8 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:24:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:24:44 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080203022444.701d5f58@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:43:41 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:12:27 +0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > After running a 90 hour portupgrade job on my current Duron 1600 > based system I've persuaded myself that a hardware upgrade is due. > > I'm contemplating building a system around an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ CPU. > I'm not into games and overclocking so a relatively low end > motherboard with integrated graphics should suffice. I've been > looking at a few specs, many of them use Nvidia chipsets and I > understand that there isn't a Nvidia graphics driver for FreeBSD on > the AMD64 platform. As others have said it's only the proprietary binary driver that doesn't support amd64 (nvidia are waiting for kernel changes). As well as the lack of 3d-support the nv driver has always seemed to me to be less efficient even on 2d. > If I choose a Nvidia based motherboard would I have to install the > i386 version of FreeBSD if I wanted to use the onboard graphics, in > which case to what extent would the overall performance suffer? It depends on the application, there are a few things like mp3 encoding that benefit, but generally the difference is small. It's more a matter of memory and address-space support - amd64 supports more. However i386 uses memory more efficiently if you have less than about 3.5 GB, and it avoids the overheads of running both 64 and 32 binaries (many desktop installations are not pure 64-bit). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 03:14:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81E916A419; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtai101.cox.net (eastrmmtai101.cox.net [68.230.240.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FECC13C457; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080203024013.PPVT20005.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net>; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:40:13 -0500 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id kqey1Y00A4iy4EG0000000; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:38:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:40:44 -0600 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.25 (Linux) Cc: Thierry Thomas , Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:14:13 -0000 On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:49:13 -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Hi Thierry, > > Just checking, since the ports tree is unfrozen have all the The ports tree still isn't complete unfreeze until 7.0 release. I don't know about OO stuff, so I will let someone to answer to it. Cheers, Mezz > patches to OO been applied to fix these problems? > > Ted > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Thierry Thomas >> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:33 PM >> To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD >> >> >> Le Mar 1 jan 08 à 21:21:43 +0100, Stephen Montgomery-Smith >> >> écrivait : >> >> > My personal wish list is that opencascade builds on FreeBSD-7 with the >> > new stlport, and that octave-forge not be in its current >> "IGNORE" state. >> > But I fully appreciate that I must either wait, or help make it >> happen. >> >> A patch is ready for that, and is available at >> >> >> >> but I cannot commit it right now: it will fail without the patch >> included in PR ports/118958. That means that we have to wait untill the >> ports tree is totally unfrozen. >> >> Best regards, -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team - FreeBSD Multimedia Hat (ports, not src) http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org http://wiki.freebsd.org/multimedia - multimedia@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 03:38:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76616A468 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C513C442 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1283652rvb.43 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:38:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=y3AXFyyRCPiq5qaFA3Z/Hvs0KaxtUo2htTsZ4yXAIb4=; b=IXp7Qw5hrMlXXcfzMgxb44lW6DRLF8K0Eo0D2eKDOvD4jlH6QSa3cuBqYnqBb7MUzRGVp2JxdukNUvXfHCsUcoK9OBICKzXlIkQf8NwwuxD6SdPhroDi845sIgkiTufplfSnT15rDlPyvhdATFRuXid8xpZ6K/iqm5t9IcdRE3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sCih6U4Yebaoank6NEbpuu5KrwtpBehg8flBdICCs7N8oXmIXRU6cCQrfmqvTwO2cUAtPrEDOWzJZnE4JfqA2CTvA1zdYZ7UECoqcvK591mSEFUOEaBiG50e0jw2SOXBnIk0FhvV/l3YYf7Xwg/JHcwn1+iU2A/PNJRcKSl8tLI= Received: by 10.140.142.6 with SMTP id p6mr3659170rvd.224.1202009929575; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.49.19 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:38:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:38:49 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Christian Baer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:38:50 -0000 On 02/02/2008, Christian Baer wrote: > Hello people! > > Can anyone give me a link to a text on ZFS that tells me why I might want > to use that instead of FFS? I don't want to start a discussion which is > better, just a comparison, as I assume that the two are not designed to do > the same things. And if possible one that is understandable to people who > don't hack FS-code. :-) http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/harvesting_from_a_troll http://zamwi.com/2007/01/16/why-do-geeks-have-lust-for-zfs/ ZFS ends the microsotf monopoly over our disks. ZFS begins the world as a 128bit dadaspace. Using ZFS fixes allocations and massaging your NAS. The inode is now the wenode. Usaging ZFS will make everything sunnier. Brighter too. Making ZFS the default FS in an FScentric world ends the pesky problems associated with legacy hardware. Building a ZFS nonuplyindirectwenode multiply redundant redundant filesystem makes Kate Miller-Heidke the Well, the best, I think. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 03:44:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866DA16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0A813C442 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 03:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1586339waf.3 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:44:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=994zcYfXiVi0ImJjqfuVLb6OEYeAiOTW3x1BuemfJIQ=; b=WAisEGoYLp87PipEwOWx2hcIuxda6JjJB1SvyCH6TGpUwCEyGzjw+z4X+epdvpbexvtUow7aGFTehXhydywnPRw9t82i435btO/jedM6vuuPAnMNK+A7i7+35n+M6YM7f9OsAJMdUOUnXJoDF7h2k/OUfg0RADugpeZuWKy6Q6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AMdViHnJMAgKjsnI8k7QCpl9MHQnaH2zP3RnykbN2aWXpkaSSyxRqJA7GKeAWV9zVIOqU/HiE29crZ5v0uA2zFK7aLIrzHudZ6AitYSaewnOAfLsS8r2LV4v7TWGSdWC9nt9AxG1zzSnq+Sz6LwGAbMOCUQQHU3PbIjc0n2e1hA= Received: by 10.114.175.16 with SMTP id x16mr5624206wae.12.1202008499777; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.81.16 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:44:59 +0530 From: "Venkatesh K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:44:07 -0000 Hi, I am using FreeBSD Rel 6.3 and cvsup stable. Make buildworld failed for me. Here is the log -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `g_read_data': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function `read' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `setup_passphrase': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:216: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_nuke': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:391: warning: implicit declaration of function `write' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_init': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of function `unlink' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `main': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:801: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/gbde. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Venkatesh K -- Venkatesh. K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 04:32:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A3116A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 04:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjn0211@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7E613C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 04:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjn0211@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W41 ([64.4.61.141]) by bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:20:30 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [124.121.93.4] From: Supote Leelasuppakorn To: Venkatesh K , Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:20:30 +0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2008 04:20:30.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CDAFC10:01C8661C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:32:30 -0000 Hi, I have ever faced this problem. I suggested you deleting the whole /usr/obj then make buildworld again. > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:44:59 +0530> From: kaevee@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: buildworld failed> > Hi,> > I am using FreeBSD Rel 6.3 and cvsup stable. Make buildworld failed for me.> > Here is the log> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott> -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall> -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual> -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -c> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `g_read_data':> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function `read'> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `setup_passphrase':> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:216: warning: implicit declaration of function `close'> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/g bde.c: In function `cmd_nuke':> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:391: warning: implicit declaration of function `write'> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_init':> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of> function `unlink'> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `main':> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:801: warning: implicit declaration of> function `getopt'> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use> in this function)> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: (Each undeclared identifier is> reported only once> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: for each function it appears in.)> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/gbde.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src/rescue.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src.> *** Error code 1> > Stop in /usr/src.> ----------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Thanks,> > Venkatesh K> > -- > Venkatesh. K> _______________________________________________> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 05:10:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4844B16A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23E13C461 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38063509D8 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DhUwJQT2qgxl for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C75A5509D5; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080203051002.C75A5509D5@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-01-13 - 2008-02-02 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:10:07 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 05:15:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBEB16A46C for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397013C4F8 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 76862 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 05:15:17 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 76852, pid: 76858, t: 0.2209s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2008 05:15:17 -0000 Message-ID: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:15:10 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:15:19 -0000 Excuse the OT question but I need a well rounded experienced group for this question. I have begun a migration from Bind to TinyDNS. TinyDNS is working flawlessly, beyond expectations. However I need to drag the old Bind servers behind until I can get several hundred pieces of client equipment and devices switched over to the new DNS servers. This because we are also changing the domain name of our authoritative servers. The problem, I have a client requesting SPF records. The TinyDNS servers are responding correctly but for the life of me I cannot get Bind to return a TXT record. I am baffled as to what I've done wrong. An example domain, pixelhammer.com querying the new servers. bash-2.05b$ dig @ns1.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @ns1.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; pixelhammer.com, type = TXT, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: pixelhammer.com. 23h47m45s IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" ;; Total query time: 4 msec ;; FROM: avhost1.tls.net to SERVER: ns1.tls.net 65.124.104.29 ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 3 00:10:36 2008 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 93 No problem there, but when I query the old bind servers, I get nuthin, nada, zip. bash-2.05b$ dig @ns1.totallogic.com pixelhammer.com txt ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com pixelhammer.com txt ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; pixelhammer.com, type = TXT, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: pixelhammer.com. 1D IN SOA ns2.totallogic.com. hostmaster.tls.net. ( 2008020219 ; serial 3H ; refresh 1H ; retry 1D ; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ;; Total query time: 3 msec ;; FROM: avhost1.tls.net to SERVER: ns1.totallogic.com 65.196.224.2 ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 3 00:10:01 2008 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 102 Here are the contents of the zone file. ;Creating pixelhammer.com zone file $TTL 1D @ IN SOA ns2.totallogic.com. hostmaster.tls.net. ( 2008020219 3H 1H 1D 1D ) ; MX Recs IN MX 10 avhost.tls.net. IN MX 20 mailgate.tls.net. ; NS Recs IN NS ns1auth.tls.net. IN NS ns3auth.tls.net. IN NS ns2auth.tls.net. ; A Recs IN A 65.196.224.25 www IN A 65.196.224.25 ftp IN A 65.196.224.25 ; TEXT Recs IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" ; CNAME Recs mail IN CNAME mail.tls.net. smtp IN CNAME smtp.tls.net. ;END pixelhammer.com zone file I am stumped, what have I done wrong? Thanks, DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 05:43:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9433A16A41B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from mg2.xecu.net (mg2.xecu.net [216.127.136.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DE513C458 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mg2.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E37A672E8D; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:43:47 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xecu.net Received: from mg2.xecu.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mg2.xecu.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6DV0GzWEqXtg; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.xecu.net (shell.xecu.net [216.127.136.216]) by mg2.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A871E672E6A; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:43:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:43:43 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: DAve In-Reply-To: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> Message-ID: <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:43:48 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, DAve wrote: > > I am stumped, what have I done wrong? You'll kick yourself. Here's the hint: /users/andy>dig @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26833 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ftp.pixelhammer.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: ftp.pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns1auth.tls.net. pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns2auth.tls.net. pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns3auth.tls.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.124.104.30 ns2auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.123.104.30 ns3auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.124.110.14 ;; Query time: 32 msec ;; SERVER: 65.196.224.2#53(65.196.224.2) ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 3 00:42:32 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 218 Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 05:49:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F1816A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugenu2@yahoo.com) Received: from web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB0B913C467 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugenu2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29919 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2008 05:49:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mBtE2mig79XnYLnzMqSgikrZRuO7Qbjqnv7erM8yOFrWkw0V1vObl26+5MoGxdtMKMmO60vaL82Cnpk3pCi9Do6qXcLsra77SEWaGRCn5DoFS2deFsiYgGXQKSbdnzL24wS422PFnjZW1AsTnfM1wjoDwVNKwOgEXq9LsEfQTxc=; X-YMail-OSG: bSny8SYVM1kcOseolfQ2mKQlKeY40ixEvsfNjfDKgwFrIFfBSF4ubuFk.qODYfx14nAiPwwKbBpEsNbFMnUPvY9HGGmdGrvUMoxfvQQ4SuP4IuvCa.rtRTdkiLLoe_nqiDdp611No76vSecTrtRpRS2mJHkYhJgrQxKizSbKXh.rQwUY3vV2RqAlye1IGqJm Received: from [24.79.77.221] by web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:49:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:49:55 -0800 (PST) From: Eugen Udma To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Behind a router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:49:56 -0000 I had a working minimal FreeBSD system until I put it behind a wireless router. Since then, my network is not accessible anymore when I boot BSD. On the same desktop I have a Gentoo Linux system which works just fine, even if I didn't touch any of it's configuration files after I installed the router. The router is a ZyXEL P-335U connected to a cable modem. The desktop is plugged into a LAN port. A laptop connected by wireless has no problems. The router gets it's IP from the ISP and acts as a firewall and a DHCP server to my network: it serves a pool of 32 addresses starting at 192.168.1.33. Its own address is 192.168.1.1. The IP Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0. The configuration files for FreeBSD are shown below. The output of ifconfig and netstat are also shown for BSD and Linux. What I don't understand is the fact that having the same router settings, Linux works while BSD doesn't: I can't even ping 192.168.1.1, while the same ping in Linux works. I read the handbook and various other BSD information sources on the web and I could not solve this issue. My question is: which config files do I have to edit in FreeBSD and what settings should I use ? Can anybody help ? Thanks, eu /etc/rc.conf --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" hostname="localhost" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- /etc/dhclient.conf --------------------------------------------------------------------------- interface "dc0" { send host-name "localhost"; request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, domain-name-servers, domain-name, time-servers; require domain-name-servers; } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ifconfig dc0 (BSD) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ifconfig eth0 (Linux) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:CF:52:B4:17 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- netstat -rn (BSD) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 4 dc0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.1.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 dc0 192.168.1.1 link#1 UHLW 2 4 dc0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- netstat -rn (Linux) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The content of /var/db/dhclient.leases.dc0 (BSD) is: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- lease { interface "dc0"; fixed-address 192.168.1.33; server-name "ZYXEL_P_335U"; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option routers 192.168.1.1; option domain-name-servers 64.59.176.13,64.59.176.15; option domain-name "wp.shawcable.net"; option dhcp-lease-time 259200; option dhcp-message-type 5; option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.1; option dhcp-renewal-time 129600; option dhcp-rebinding-time 226800; renew 1 2008/2/4 16:13:41; rebind 2 2008/2/5 19:13:41; expire 3 2008/2/6 04:13:41; } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The content of /var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-eth0.info (Linux) is: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- IPADDR='192.168.1.33' NETMASK='255.255.255.0' BROADCAST='192.168.1.255' ROUTES='' GATEWAYS='192.168.1.1' HOSTNAME='dhcppc1' DNSDOMAIN='wp.shawcable.net' DNSSERVERS='64.59.176.13 64.59.176.15' DHCPSID='192.168.1.1' DHCPSNAME='ZYXEL_P_335U' LEASEDFROM='1202012861' LEASETIME='259200' RENEWALTIME='129600' REBINDTIME='226800' INTERFACE='eth0' CLASSID='dhcpcd 3.1.5' CLIENTID='ff:00:00:00:03:00:01:00:01:0e:90:86:a3:00:14:cf:52:b4:17' DHCPCHADDR='00:14:cf:52:b4:17' Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. 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Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 06:00:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F1816A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612D213C467 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ktct1Y0130vyq2s5400L00; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:44:16 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([71.231.158.147]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ktkL1Y0053B62Q73R00000; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:44:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=81ABGVOTAAAA:8 a=IjRAnpmU-lO4-Hw_dpcA:9 a=z1inemPaiDhK73-7-vkA:7 a=A9cuTCD-Ic8hUVcuHe-4rwr6ObMA:4 a=d9aOF4bGHEQA:10 a=HC3BEA4wmbQA:10 a=9yrYCps4eMkA:10 a=ixOwvPNjZ5sA:10 a=Ff6Tcxb12tgA:10 a=Jru2V1M-_-kA:10 a=ap13AJtIv_oA:10 a=xm4ZM_dawocA:10 Message-ID: <47A554B5.1080300@foster.cc> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:44:21 -0800 From: "Mark D. Foster" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DAve References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:00:23 -0000 DAve wrote: > Excuse the OT question but I need a well rounded experienced group for > this question. I have begun a migration from Bind to TinyDNS. TinyDNS is > working flawlessly, beyond expectations. However I need to drag the old > Bind servers behind until I can get several hundred pieces of client > equipment and devices switched over to the new DNS servers. This because > we are also changing the domain name of our authoritative servers. > > The problem, I have a client requesting SPF records. The TinyDNS servers > are responding correctly but for the life of me I cannot get Bind to > return a TXT record. I am baffled as to what I've done wrong. > > An example domain, pixelhammer.com querying the new servers. > bash-2.05b$ dig @ns1.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @ns1.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUERY SECTION: > ;; pixelhammer.com, type = TXT, class = IN > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > pixelhammer.com. 23h47m45s IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 > ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" > > ;; Total query time: 4 msec > ;; FROM: avhost1.tls.net to SERVER: ns1.tls.net 65.124.104.29 > ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 3 00:10:36 2008 > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 93 > > No problem there, but when I query the old bind servers, I get nuthin, > nada, zip. > > bash-2.05b$ dig @ns1.totallogic.com pixelhammer.com txt > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com pixelhammer.com txt > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUERY SECTION: > ;; pixelhammer.com, type = TXT, class = IN > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > pixelhammer.com. 1D IN SOA ns2.totallogic.com. > hostmaster.tls.net. ( > 2008020219 ; serial > 3H ; refresh > 1H ; retry > 1D ; expiry > 1D ) ; minimum > > > ;; Total query time: 3 msec > ;; FROM: avhost1.tls.net to SERVER: ns1.totallogic.com 65.196.224.2 > ;; WHEN: Sun Feb 3 00:10:01 2008 > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 102 > > > Here are the contents of the zone file. > ;Creating pixelhammer.com zone file > $TTL 1D > @ IN SOA ns2.totallogic.com. hostmaster.tls.net. ( > 2008020219 3H 1H 1D 1D ) > > ; MX Recs > IN MX 10 avhost.tls.net. > IN MX 20 mailgate.tls.net. > > ; NS Recs > IN NS ns1auth.tls.net. > IN NS ns3auth.tls.net. > IN NS ns2auth.tls.net. > > ; A Recs > IN A 65.196.224.25 > www IN A 65.196.224.25 > ftp IN A 65.196.224.25 > > ; TEXT Recs > IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" > > ; CNAME Recs > mail IN CNAME mail.tls.net. > smtp IN CNAME smtp.tls.net. > > ;END pixelhammer.com zone file > > I am stumped, what have I done wrong? > > Thanks, > > DAve > > > Looks to me like you need to remove the pixelhammer.com zone from your old bind servers, as the delegation from the root points to ns1auth.tls.net and ns2auth.tls.net both of which appear to have authority for the zone AND the txt record you seek. monk:~> dig +trace pixelhammer.com ns ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>> +trace pixelhammer.com ns ;; global options: printcmd . 65035 IN NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 65035 IN NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; Received 436 bytes from 192.168.1.11#53(192.168.1.11) in 3 ms com. 172800 IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS b.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS c.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS d.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS e.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS f.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS g.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS h.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS i.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS j.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS k.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS l.gtld-servers.net. com. 172800 IN NS m.gtld-servers.net. ;; Received 493 bytes from 199.7.83.42#53(L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET) in 488 ms pixelhammer.com. 172800 IN NS ns1auth.tls.net. pixelhammer.com. 172800 IN NS ns2auth.tls.net. ;; Received 116 bytes from 192.54.112.30#53(h.gtld-servers.net) in 179 ms monk:~> host ns1auth.tls.net ns1auth.tls.net has address 65.124.104.30 monk:~> host ns2auth.tls.net ns2auth.tls.net has address 65.123.104.30 monk:~> dig @ns1auth.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>> @ns1auth.tls.net pixelhammer.com txt ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11218 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;pixelhammer.com. IN TXT ;; ANSWER SECTION: pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns1auth.tls.net. pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns2auth.tls.net. pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN NS ns3auth.tls.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.124.104.30 ns2auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.123.104.30 ns3auth.tls.net. 86400 IN A 65.124.110.14 ;; Query time: 84 msec ;; SERVER: 65.124.104.30#53(65.124.104.30) ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 2 21:39:41 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 214 -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP http://mark.foster.cc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 06:05:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D33016A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2F713C45B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m135mFJv097171; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:48:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mario Lobo" , "Warren Block" Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:49:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200801302221.49266.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:48:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serial port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:05:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mario Lobo > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:22 PM > To: Warren Block > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Serial port question > > > On Wednesday 30 January 2008 21:42:28 you wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > I am doing some experiments with the WL5460AP. I doesn't have a serial > > > connector but the RTL8186 does have a UART and the circuit > board has a 4 > > > pin connector (4-3.3V, 3-TXD, 2-RXD, 1-GND) to the UART. When you plugged in to this port, did you insert 1488 and 1489 line driver/line receiver chips? RS232 serial data is +12V ~ -12V and that UART output is undoubtedly TTL 5v+ signal level. Hopefully you didn't fry the port. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 07:40:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052AB16A46B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A209E13C469 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so1657298qbd.7 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:40:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NfBEaaiO6q3XfIs+DTgdgOLyQzPbO9AGUW9sfqRJTXU=; b=Fmioc2dPCz4I1FmMP/aIs+Feno3mIZFPFS33E0iOsrWNL/QnEDxAUDS///WanN3NQJXApw/RJokTo7EGXyD1r8RrPyHRJTDeg5pN9AyK6bZYNBPwzMM/uceoKzJXU9WGNhqYXh6bW5WTAyej1FiYADynyV1WFooqptlERipDz+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hPhb/sCXhOnn0DxNc7iCMJ3PETRKI0puK8womaiOkqbrgQmIvJr1yptEafDWBcg71TWgymLzDRURq7bd4ohh4sCCZMqmgXcpNtWSfDjwnBL8XMBtc2T3q2SGtLUr5D4hVEdCWo5CpjAWzOha2DUJCTkPXGo/Osw+5a0GysVUBV0= Received: by 10.114.170.1 with SMTP id s1mr5643639wae.54.1202023483187; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.144.13 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 23:24:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87f7f4170802022324ma92af72p5a48b605ff3cda5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:24:43 -0500 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Eugen Udma" In-Reply-To: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behind a router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:40:25 -0000 On Feb 3, 2008 12:49 AM, Eugen Udma wrote: > I > had > a > working > minimal > FreeBSD > system > until > I > put > it > behind > a > wireless > router. > Since > then, > my > network > is > not > accessible > anymore > when > I > boot > BSD. > On > the > same > desktop > I > have > a > Gentoo > Linux > system > which > works > just > fine, > even > if > I > didn't > touch > any > of > it's > configuration > files > after > I > installed > the > router. > > The > router > is > a > ZyXEL > P-335U > connected > to > a > cable > modem. > The > desktop > is > plugged > into > a > LAN > port. > A > laptop > connected > by > wireless > has > no > problems. > The > router > gets > it's > IP > from > the > ISP > and > acts > as > a > firewall > and > a > DHCP > server > to > my > network: > it > serves > a > pool > of > 32 > addresses > starting > at > 192.168.1.33. > Its > own > address > is > 192.168.1.1. > The > IP > Subnet > Mask > is > 255.255.255.0. > > The > configuration > files > for > FreeBSD > are > shown > below. > The > output > of > ifconfig > and > netstat > are > also > shown > for > BSD > and > Linux. > > What > I > don't > understand > is > the > fact > that > having > the > same > router > settings, > Linux > works > while > BSD > doesn't: > I > can't > even > ping > 192.168.1.1, > while > the > same > ping > in > Linux > works. > > I > read > the > handbook > and > various > other > BSD > information > sources > on > the > web > and > I > could > not > solve > this > issue. > > My > question > is: > which > config > files > do > I > have > to > edit > in > FreeBSD > and > what > settings > should > I > use > ? > Can > anybody > help > ? > > Thanks, > eu > > /etc/rc.conf > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > hostname="localhost" > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > /etc/dhclient.conf > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > interface > "dc0" > { > send > host-name > "localhost"; > request > subnet-mask, > broadcast-address, > routers, > domain-name-servers, > > > > > > > > > domain-name, > time-servers; > require > domain-name-servers; > } > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ifconfig > dc0 > (BSD) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > dc0: > flags=8843 > metric > 0 > mtu > 1500 > > > options=8 > > > ether > 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 > > > inet > 192.168.1.33 > netmask > 0xffffff00 > broadcast > 192.168.1.255 > > > media: > Ethernet > autoselect > (100baseTX > ) > > > status: > active > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ifconfig > eth0 > (Linux) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > eth0 > > > Link > encap:Ethernet > HWaddr > 00:14:CF:52:B4:17 > > > > > > inet > addr:192.168.1.33 > Bcast:192.168.1.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > > > > > inet6 > addr: > fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417/64 > Scope:Link > > > > > > UP > BROADCAST > RUNNING > MULTICAST > MTU:1500 > Metric:1 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > netstat > -rn > (BSD) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Routing > tables > > Internet: > Destination > > > > Gateway > > > > > > Flags > > Refs > > > Use > Netif > Expire > default > > > > > > 192.168.1.1 > > > > UGS > > > > > 0 > > > > 4 > > dc0 > 127.0.0.1 > > > > > 127.0.0.1 > > > > > UH > > > > > 0 > > > > 0 > > lo0 > 192.168.1.0/24 > > > link#1 > > > > > > > UC > > > > > 0 > > > > 0 > > dc0 > 192.168.1.1 > > > > link#1 > > > > > > > UHLW > > > > 2 > > > > 4 > > dc0 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > netstat > -rn > (Linux) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kernel > IP > routing > table > Destination > > > Gateway > > > > > Genmask > > > > > Flags > > MSS > Window > irtt > Iface > 192.168.1.0 > > > 0.0.0.0 > > > > > 255.255.255.0 > > U > > > > > 0 > 0 > > > > > 0 > eth0 > 127.0.0.0 > > > > 0.0.0.0 > > > > > 255.0.0.0 > > > > U > > > > > 0 > 0 > > > > > 0 > lo > 0.0.0.0 > > > > > 192.168.1.1 > > > 0.0.0.0 > > > > > UG > > > > 0 > 0 > > > > > 0 > eth0 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The > content > of > /var/db/dhclient.leases.dc0 > (BSD) > is: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > lease > { > > interface > "dc0"; > > fixed-address > 192.168.1.33; > > server-name > "ZYXEL_P_335U"; > > option > subnet-mask > 255.255.255.0; > > option > routers > 192.168.1.1; > > option > domain-name-servers > 64.59.176.13,64.59.176.15; > > option > domain-name > "wp.shawcable.net"; > > option > dhcp-lease-time > 259200; > > option > dhcp-message-type > 5; > > option > dhcp-server-identifier > 192.168.1.1; > > option > dhcp-renewal-time > 129600; > > option > dhcp-rebinding-time > 226800; > > renew > 1 > 2008/2/4 > 16:13:41; > > rebind > 2 > 2008/2/5 > 19:13:41; > > expire > 3 > 2008/2/6 > 04:13:41; > } > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The > content > of > /var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-eth0.info > (Linux) > is: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > IPADDR='192.168.1.33' > NETMASK='255.255.255.0' > BROADCAST='192.168.1.255' > ROUTES='' > GATEWAYS='192.168.1.1' > HOSTNAME='dhcppc1' > DNSDOMAIN='wp.shawcable.net' > DNSSERVERS='64.59.176.13 > 64.59.176.15' > DHCPSID='192.168.1.1' > DHCPSNAME='ZYXEL_P_335U' > LEASEDFROM='1202012861' > LEASETIME='259200' > RENEWALTIME='129600' > REBINDTIME='226800' > INTERFACE='eth0' > CLASSID='dhcpcd > 3.1.5' > CLIENTID='ff:00:00:00:03:00:01:00:01:0e:90:86:a3:00:14:cf:52:b4:17' > DHCPCHADDR='00:14:cf:52:b4:17' > > > > > > Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > please fix the line wrap in your email. It is unreadable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 08:40:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B468016A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail48.e.nsc.no (mail48.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0E113C459 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.189.124] (062016189124.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.189.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail48.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m138eiEM002285; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:40:45 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <47A57D9A.3000100@netscape.net> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:38:50 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kimi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> <20080202231028.P4423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <42b497160802021733m6a2e8655i1ff4f0e5ae01e8f4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42b497160802021733m6a2e8655i1ff4f0e5ae01e8f4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:40:49 -0000 Kimi wrote: > > xorg-driver-nv will be more then good enough, providing 3D is not needed. 2D can also be pretty sluggish at times. The following shows the nv driver in its fully glory as I was leafing through a page of photos: http://home.no/tl18/misc/mincemeat.jpg Moreover, the nv driver does not provide a way to properly control brightness and contrast. I would say it is strictly necessary for anyone who is into photography to use the nvidia-driver, even if they are not remotely interested in 3D. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 08:56:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E6C16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1D013C46E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m138tv97001616; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:55:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m138tpFk001613; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:55:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:55:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Tore Lund In-Reply-To: <47A57D9A.3000100@netscape.net> Message-ID: <20080203095207.I1589@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> <20080202231028.P4423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <42b497160802021733m6a2e8655i1ff4f0e5ae01e8f4@mail.gmail.com> <47A57D9A.3000100@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kimi Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:56:36 -0000 > http://home.no/tl18/misc/mincemeat.jpg > > Moreover, the nv driver does not provide a way to properly control > brightness and contrast. I would say it is strictly necessary for > anyone who is into photography to use the nvidia-driver, even if they > are not remotely interested in 3D. > -- for desktop i would rather prefer (and did that many times) to run some fast computer headless and have at least 1 (but more preferably) X terminal made from 486-Pentium with old, but supported graphics. i made cut-down X terminal distro with NetBSD 1.5 (takes 25MB total, with all possible X servers), works fine, sound supported through nas. most old PCI Matrox cards are best for that, all hardware 2D acceleration works like it should, supports high refresh rates and gamma correction by hardware. and with X terminal price equal to about 0+monitor you may have many of this for single computer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 09:23:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189F16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB4E13C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m139Na3p098127; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:25:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:23:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: SATA question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:23:38 -0000 Looks like it isn't detecting it as a generic controller. But I think this is the problem. Note that the system is applying ata2 and ata3 to atapci0, and ata0 and ata1 to atapci1. This is backwards, I've not seen this before in the ata driver. Normally, ata0 and ata1 are applied to the first controller - atapci0 - and ata2 and ata3 are applied to the second controller - atapci1 - and so on. Søren Schmidt put the support in for this chipset to the ata driver. I'd file a PR and put it down to a driver bug. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Darryl Hoar > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:06 AM > To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: SATA question > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Darryl Hoar > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:59 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: SATA question > > > > > > Well, > > maybe I spoke to soon. While looking at dmesg in prep for doing > > a custom kernel for my new server, I noticed an oddity. > > > > ad4 - DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ata66 cable. > > ad4 - > > > > Is this telling me the system recognized my > > 160GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive as > > a UDMA33 ? > > > > >>No doubt, a pciconf followed by insertion of the ID into the > >>ata detection routines would help - assuming your sata chipset > >>is supported. > > >>You don't have the entire dmesg here but it looks like it's > >>using the generic driver. > > >>Ted > > > atapci0: port > 0xecb0-0xecb7,0xeca0-0xeca > 3,0xecb8-0xecbf,0xeca4-0xeca7,0xece0-0xecef mem > 0xefdfe000-0xefdfffff irq 6 > at d > evice 14.0 on pci3 > ata2: on atapci0 > ata3: on atapci0 > > atapci1: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x > 177,0x376,0x8c0-0x8cf at device 2.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci1 > ata1: on atapci1 > > acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 > ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad4: 152587MB at ata2-master UDMA33 > ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad6: 152587MB at ata3-master UDMA33 > > This is the copied relevant portions of demsg's output. I have only used > pciconf to > list devices, so am basically unfamilar with it. > > So, how do I get the system to recognize the drives as SATA ? > > thanks, > Darryl > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 09:30:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093316A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4752F13C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1740572waf.3 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:30:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MIXeTAHDiYH/BVxpunKwG8EL7aaaozNAqpBDypAgDkw=; b=CxZTGDr0Jkj6qp2U7oTz0ecWx7V+T107zBv8O7m6aAzNH3RAT10xRD5s6s/QnqTWNqNdlZuwxqMOK0+silOyVcYeUX0GShvrJmYpLq+fv+5WlbwQoTMSK/HVlx9c490CQtG7zM8+k4yin5QrJ35Nh48w5I3MARapdRFrpZ3sqPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fDVPQMbMAsJItmHFWcb0qNqG+vhINkoFUnFuROkRcHszSe790mtbNbCtIXHRrv0GBRa9ioak3M2VQh+MVgPrPApdXPdBzT/wEE95e1jJqyRWDurcs4ghNhfLetM6XyDe7GtLqMumef/shcIrj+Vh/e+N/aDblE8fOE8s43kk00c= Received: by 10.115.55.1 with SMTP id h1mr5660393wak.69.1202031036934; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.81.16 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 01:30:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 From: "Venkatesh K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:30:37 -0000 I did try that too! Still same problem. Thanks, Venkatesh K On Feb 3, 2008 9:50 AM, Supote Leelasuppakorn wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have ever faced this problem. I suggested you deleting the whole > /usr/obj then make buildworld again. > > > > > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:44:59 +0530 > > From: kaevee@gmail.com > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: buildworld failed > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am using FreeBSD Rel 6.3 and cvsup stable. Make buildworld failed for > me. > > > > Here is the log > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott > > -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall > > -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual > > -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -c > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `g_read_data': > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function > `read' > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `setup_passphrase': > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:216: warning: implicit declaration of function > `close' > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_nuke': > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:391: warning: implicit declaration of function > `write' > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_init': > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of > > function `unlink' > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `main': > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:801: warning: implicit declaration of > > function `getopt' > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use > > in this function) > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: (Each undeclared identifier is > > reported only once > > /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: for each function it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/sbin/gbde. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/rescue. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Thanks, > > > > Venkatesh K > > > > -- > > Venkatesh. K > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Venkatesh. K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 10:58:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFE616A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12D113C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JLcYH-0001aN-Uo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:58:21 +0000 Received: from 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru ([89.178.223.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:58:21 +0000 Received: from swell.k by 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:58:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: swell.k@gmail.com Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:01:17 +0300 Lines: 8 Message-ID: <86r6fucnia.fsf@gmail.com> References: <47A4773C.5040505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zizMUK6ZxZ247FpQIdjlWLqCqdk= Sender: news Subject: Re: /dev/dsp0.0 disappears after power outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:58:29 -0000 "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: > I just had a power outage and when it came back /dev/dsp0.0 was > missing from the devices. the kern module loaded fine and detected > the card correctly (according to dmesg, sysctl and /dev/sndstat) but > neither the above or /dev/pcm exists. Any ideas? `:>/dev/dsp0.0' ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:30:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2510516A421 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB7213C46E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145C518202893 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:30:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 8DCC815219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:29:42 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:29:42 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202038182 58409 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 11:29:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:29:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:30:35 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:11:21 +0100 Mel wrote: > If you review the "Not done" items @ http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS and still are > doubting, then http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/whatis/ describes > what the features *can* be. I got a good impression from that text what the > advantages are, but I'm too conservative to migrate myself. YMMV. I already read that before I posted my question. Neither by this text, nor by the one in the Wikipedia could I participate in the exitement around ZFS. Ok, so it's a 128Bit FS. Big fat, hairy deal! I couldn't see any advantages in using it instead of FFS (UFS), but I thought I was missing something because porting it would have been somewhat of a hassle and noone would go to all that trouble if it wasn't worth the effort. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:41:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42F216A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F67813C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1148318202893 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:41:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 81BCD1521E; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:40:08 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:40:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202038808 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 11:40:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:40:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:41:45 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:38:49 -0600 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > ZFS ends the microsotf monopoly over our disks. And this monopoly is founded on ... what? > ZFS begins the world as a 128bit dadaspace. > Using ZFS fixes allocations and massaging your NAS. > The inode is now the wenode. > Usaging ZFS will make everything sunnier. > Brighter too. > Making ZFS the default FS in an FScentric world ends > the pesky problems associated with legacy hardware. > Building a ZFS nonuplyindirectwenode multiply redundant > redundant filesystem makes Kate Miller-Heidke the > Well, the best, I think. I take ist, you don't approve of ZFS? :-) Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:43:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B814716A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1CE13C46A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C67818202893 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:43:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 09B8A15219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:42:08 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:42:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <87f7f4170802022324ma92af72p5a48b605ff3cda5f@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202038928 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 11:42:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:42:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Behind a router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:43:07 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:24:43 -0500 Jeremy Gransden wrote: > please fix the line wrap in your email. It is unreadable And you really neaded to quote over 600 lines just to write that? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:56:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CDF16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7263413C508 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162091802C029 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:56:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 5304E15219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:55:52 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:55:52 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202039752 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 11:55:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:55:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Behind a router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:56:44 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:49:55 -0800 (PST) Eugen Udma wrote: I took the liberty of cleaning up you post. Please fix your line wrap! One word per line is not what I call easy reading. > I had a working minimal FreeBSD system until I put it behind a wireless > router. Since then, my network is not accessible anymore when I boot > BSD. On the same desktop I have a Gentoo Linux system which works just > fine, even if I didn't touch any of it's configuration files after I > installed the router. > > The router is a ZyXEL P-335U connected to a cable modem. The desktop is > plugged into a LAN port. A laptop connected by wireless has no > problems. The router gets it's IP from the ISP and acts as a firewall > and a DHCP server to my network: it serves a pool of 32 addresses > starting at 192.168.1.33. Its own address is 192.168.1.1. The IP > Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0. > > The configuration files for FreeBSD are shown below. The output of > ifconfig and netstat are also shown for BSD and Linux. > > What I don't understand is the fact that having the same router > settings, Linux works while BSD doesn't: I can't even ping 192.168.1.1, > while the same ping in Linux works. > > I read the handbook and various other BSD information sources > on the web and I could not solve this issue. > > My question is: which config files do I have to edit in FreeBSD and what > settings should I use ? Can anybody help ? The reason seams to be a completely broken configuration of dhclient.conf resulting in several problems. Among them that two boxes get the same IP address. Both your BSD and you Linux box have 192.168.1.33. > /etc/rc.conf > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > hostname="localhost" > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > /etc/dhclient.conf > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > interface > "dc0" > { > send > host-name > "localhost"; > request > subnet-mask, > broadcast-address, > routers, > domain-name-servers, > domain-name, > time-servers; > require > domain-name-servers; > } > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem is probably you sending that name "localhost" which should never have any other address than 127.0.0.1. Why did you play with the settings anyway? Normally a dhcp-client works right out of the box. I have never had to change any of the configurations - ever. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:58:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5750416A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4FC13C4E3 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:58852 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLdUM-0001Ai-5v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:58:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 71720 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 12:58:20 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 Feb 2008 12:58:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 65938 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 2008 12:58:20 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:58:19 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080203115819.GA65788@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ted Mittelstaedt , darryl@osborne-ind.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JLdUM-0001Ai-5v. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JLdUM-0001Ai-5v d3177c737b21da045e69cf547685b860 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:58:26 -0000 On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:25:07AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >=20 > Looks like it isn't detecting it as a generic controller. >=20 > But I think this is the problem. Note that the system is > applying ata2 and ata3 to atapci0, and ata0 and ata1 to > atapci1. This is backwards, I've not seen this before in > the ata driver. Normally, ata0 and ata1 are applied to the > first controller - atapci0 - and ata2 and ata3 are applied > to the second controller - atapci1 - and so on. I have seen that before on one of my computers: atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd007,0xcc00-0xcc03,0= xc800-0xc807,0xc400-0xc403,0xc000-0xc00f,0xb800-0xb8ff irq 20 at device 15.= 0 on pci0 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177= ,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 It looks like ata0 and ata1 are assigned to whichever interface looks like the "standard" ATA interface, regardless of in what order various ATA controllers are detected. >=20 > S=F8ren Schmidt put the support in for this chipset to the > ata driver. I'd file a PR and put it down to a driver bug. >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Darryl Hoar > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:06 AM > > To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: SATA question > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Darryl Hoar > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:59 AM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: SATA question > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > maybe I spoke to soon. While looking at dmesg in prep for doing > > > a custom kernel for my new server, I noticed an oddity. > > > > > > ad4 - DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ata66 cable. > > > ad4 - > > > > > > Is this telling me the system recognized my > > > 160GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive as > > > a UDMA33 ? > > > > > > > >>No doubt, a pciconf followed by insertion of the ID into the > > >>ata detection routines would help - assuming your sata chipset > > >>is supported. > > > > >>You don't have the entire dmesg here but it looks like it's > > >>using the generic driver. > > > > >>Ted > > > > > > atapci0: port > > 0xecb0-0xecb7,0xeca0-0xeca > > 3,0xecb8-0xecbf,0xeca4-0xeca7,0xece0-0xecef mem > > 0xefdfe000-0xefdfffff irq 6 > > at d > > evice 14.0 on pci3 > > ata2: on atapci0 > > ata3: on atapci0 > > > > atapci1: port > > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x > > 177,0x376,0x8c0-0x8cf at device 2.1 on pci0 > > ata0: on atapci1 > > ata1: on atapci1 > > > > acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 > > ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > > ad4: 152587MB at ata2-master UDMA33 > > ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > > ad6: 152587MB at ata3-master UDMA33 > > > > This is the copied relevant portions of demsg's output. I have only used > > pciconf to > > list devices, so am basically unfamilar with it. > > > > So, how do I get the system to recognize the drives as SATA ? > > --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:59:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F50B16A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5560C13C46A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2890D1802C029 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:59:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 9497815219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:58:39 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:58:39 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202039919 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 11:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:58:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:59:31 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 Venkatesh K wrote: > I did try that too! Still same problem. 1. Please do not quote everything and then put your comment on top. 2. Try a new csup. Sometime the source tree even in -STABLE is a little unstable. :-) 3. Try removing the -march argument. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 12:06:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F9516A505 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE9313C467 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2620957pyb.10 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.106.1 with SMTP id i1mr6433107pym.62.1202040377820; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i16sm8615142wxd.30.2008.02.03.04.06.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:06:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:06:02 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080203070602.165ad048@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/ZSaKWfTvW=EXf=B81kYNIJu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:06:19 -0000 --Sig_/ZSaKWfTvW=EXf=B81kYNIJu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 "Venkatesh K" wrote: > I did try that too! Still same problem. =46rom the FreeBSD manual: 23.4.14.6. What do I do if something goes wrong? Make absolutely sure your environment has no extraneous cruft from earlier builds. This is simple enough. # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr # rm -rf /usr/obj/usr # cd /usr/src # make cleandir # make cleandir Yes, make cleandir really should be run twice. I would then run cvsup again to make sure you have the latest available files and then rerun the entire process again. BTW, lose the 'top-posting' habit. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net The light at the end of the tunnel may be an oncoming dragon. --Sig_/ZSaKWfTvW=EXf=B81kYNIJu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkelrisACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMnImACg3bA/19RrMSUJImIzFTfszOD8 NroAnRYjMM4kLf7m9u6ngT9W29IQ4t72 =gPIZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ZSaKWfTvW=EXf=B81kYNIJu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 12:10:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A99216A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjn0211@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2094413C442 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjn0211@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W23 ([64.4.61.123]) by bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 3 Feb 2008 04:10:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [124.121.145.203] From: Supote Leelasuppakorn To: Venkatesh K , Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:10:49 +0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2008 12:10:49.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0A9F4D0:01C8665D] Cc: Subject: RE: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:10:51 -0000 Hi, I'm not sure you tried below or not. 1. delete both /usr/src and /usr/obj 2. verify your supfile for corret version of SRC you want 3. cvsup STABLE brach again 4. verify cvsup operation and also all src tree in /usr/src 5. then try make buld world again PS. you'd better attached your supfile. This will give other people more information about your problem. Pote > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 > From: kaevee@gmail.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: buildworld failed > > I did try that too! Still same problem. > > Thanks, > > Venkatesh K > > On Feb 3, 2008 9:50 AM, Supote Leelasuppakorn wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have ever faced this problem. I suggested you deleting the whole >> /usr/obj then make buildworld again. >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:44:59 +0530 >>> From: kaevee@gmail.com >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: buildworld failed >> >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am using FreeBSD Rel 6.3 and cvsup stable. Make buildworld failed for >> me. >>> >>> Here is the log >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott >>> -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall >>> -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes >>> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual >>> -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -c >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `g_read_data': >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function >> `read' >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `setup_passphrase': >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:216: warning: implicit declaration of function >> `close' >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_nuke': >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:391: warning: implicit declaration of function >> `write' >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_init': >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of >>> function `unlink' >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `main': >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:801: warning: implicit declaration of >>> function `getopt' >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use >>> in this function) >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: (Each undeclared identifier is >>> reported only once >>> /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: for each function it appears in.) >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src/sbin/gbde. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src/rescue. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/src. >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Venkatesh K >>> >>> -- >>> Venkatesh. K >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > > -- > Venkatesh. K > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 12:14:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D866513C459 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A931802C029 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:14:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id A9A0B15219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:13:34 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:13:34 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 36 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202040814 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 12:13:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:13:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:14:27 -0000 Greetings programs! I have a computer here with 10 HDDs. Four of them are connected to the southbridge of the mainboard. The other 6 are connected to two Promise SATAII 300 TX4. Four of the drives are connected to the first controller (making it 'full') the other two connected to the second. To make the device names predictable I was very careful how I connected them. The four drives connected to the southbridge are in the right order (this also means they have the device names ad0 to ad3). The drives connected to the other controllers are a different story. The two controllers cooperate well and identify themselves as one controller only. So I get only one message showing all the drives. The drives are in this order in the BIOS message: D 0 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad4) D 1 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad6) D 2 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad8) D 3 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad10) D 4 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad12) D 5 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad14) The device in brackets is the one I'd expect to get. Instead, I get this: ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 305245MB at ata3-master SATA150 ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 ad10: 305245MB at ata5-master SATA150 ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 ad18: 476940MB at ata9-master SATA150 Where did I go wrong? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 13:03:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000FD16A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C4D13C455 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:52555 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLeVU-0005oq-7U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:03:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 72117 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 66304 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Christian Baer Message-ID: <20080203130333.GA66223@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Christian Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JLeVU-0005oq-7U. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JLeVU-0005oq-7U f0aa21d1297cbb91ab80e4a4b4d5c030 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:03:38 -0000 On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:13:34PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > Greetings programs! > > I have a computer here with 10 HDDs. Four of them are connected to the > southbridge of the mainboard. The other 6 are connected to two Promise > SATAII 300 TX4. Four of the drives are connected to the first controller > (making it 'full') the other two connected to the second. > > To make the device names predictable I was very careful how I connected > them. The four drives connected to the southbridge are in the right order > (this also means they have the device names ad0 to ad3). The drives > connected to the other controllers are a different story. > > The two controllers cooperate well and identify themselves as one > controller only. So I get only one message showing all the drives. The > drives are in this order in the BIOS message: > > D 0 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad4) > D 1 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad6) > D 2 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad8) > D 3 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad10) > D 4 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad12) > D 5 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad14) > > The device in brackets is the one I'd expect to get. Instead, I get this: > > ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 > ad6: 305245MB at ata3-master SATA150 > ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 > ad10: 305245MB at ata5-master SATA150 > ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 > ad18: 476940MB at ata9-master SATA150 > > Where did I go wrong? How disks ars numbered do depend on which ports on which controller they are attached to. You want to use the lowest-numbered ports on the Promise controllers. Which ports that is when both controllers identify as a single controller is another question. From what you show it looks like all the odd-numbered ports are on one controller and all the even-numbered ports are on the other. Try experimenting by changing which disk is connected to which port and see if you can get the behaviour you want. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 13:04:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1D16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E04513C46B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1843058waf.3 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:04:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DARPyAO6Rt8WiCZ23NYJIRl8NkFIPVuOcxGBx1kNDpg=; b=eR1D5ci1NjgIPG8A4YxhFhx/w3sL8w7Uw9jcc6XwIXCWknSLS7ADMq8h2tcVNYIwmWNgwsYLAHDMNmcYjerYTzz0jV2A34d/evJzE0H6+CR65CYl/1XZ2up0po67WxjpPiigrQQG/Rz/ROrOgIo3LQWvswXvjAdw/WqmofGtADY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f1kjL0JvV1IWDXH8GP3OvxICQAPMDs+wHqQRXVWA90QFxGrpP7HOrbd4P8m5BQ3WfqX47X/+R3jZ7AXA6TZJLsmaqbywRMoqeUW1adrR2QGJZZHnMVRXQIc3UcI6hWLzkvh7HMumgJ8s/HOY4X+dyd8lOXvbykUMwyOJYgFjB0w= Received: by 10.114.155.1 with SMTP id c1mr171705wae.105.1202043894098; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.81.16 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:04:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:34:54 +0530 From: "Venkatesh K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080203070602.165ad048@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080203070602.165ad048@scorpio> Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:04:54 -0000 On Feb 3, 2008 5:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 > "Venkatesh K" wrote: > > > I did try that too! Still same problem. > > From the FreeBSD manual: > > 23.4.14.6. What do I do if something goes wrong? > > Make absolutely sure your environment has no extraneous cruft from > earlier builds. This is simple enough. > # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr > # rm -rf /usr/obj/usr > # cd /usr/src > # make cleandir > # make cleandir > I had tried cleaning build tree as described above and building again. It was of no help. > Yes, make cleandir really should be run twice. > > I would then run cvsup again to make sure you have the latest available > files and then rerun the entire process again. I have removed arch flag from "make.conf" and trying recompiling again. I did cvsup latest sources before restarting the build. > > BTW, lose the 'top-posting' habit. > I apologize for not following etiquette. I will follow it from now onwards. Thanks, -- Venkatesh. K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 13:35:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8106416A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDBF13C4EE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-222.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.222]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0C31802C029 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:35:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id AD19815219; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:34:48 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:34:48 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <20080203130333.GA66223@owl.midgard.homeip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202045688 58932 192.168.100.5 (3 Feb 2008 13:34:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:34:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:35:42 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 Erik Trulsson wrote: >> D 0 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad4) >> D 1 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad6) >> D 2 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad8) >> D 3 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad10) >> D 4 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad12) >> D 5 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad14) >> >> The device in brackets is the one I'd expect to get. Instead, I get this: >> >> ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 >> ad6: 305245MB at ata3-master SATA150 >> ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 >> ad10: 305245MB at ata5-master SATA150 >> ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 >> ad18: 476940MB at ata9-master SATA150 > > How disks ars numbered do depend on which ports on which controller they > are attached to. You want to use the lowest-numbered ports on the Promise > controllers. Which ports that is when both controllers identify as a single > controller is another question. From what you show it looks like all the > odd-numbered ports are on one controller and all the even-numbered ports are > on the other. Do you mean physically or logically? Physically the first four drives in the top list (the two WDCs and the two Samsungs) are connected to the first controller. The two Seagates are connected to the second. > Try experimenting by changing which disk is connected to which port and see > if you can get the behaviour you want. I don't really want or nead any behaviour in particular. This is just a matter of what's in the fstab. I was more wondering how this could be and if this order (and thus the device names) will stay constant or if the OS could get funny ideas after a csup and change this again, which would certainly mess up my directory tree. I was also wondering about the "gap" there is in the device names. The first controller should get ad4,6,8 and 10. But then, the second should get 12 and not 14. What happened to 12? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 13:46:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB1D16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D0713C46B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaevee@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1862150waf.3 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:46:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=v/4YnWw2I5U6D1zcm77a7czMvLB61QfqnK4/XYw37Gs=; b=p2c0HlyS2ZXUV5OZRc4TIany0j0qJxrB28J0UN1ExVmYnrowCVRT1UpeDDPYb8TgUrVouXwQU5/OdJtY+8bNenmLLO/utWI/izh4otRVAWlgyE1N/EMdRFejl0l02XUOOGSBBJYdB2c7Nu0kSHznRtX6CLis8KB84RFp5RpBJ3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aWK0sYpWLlhCOnAMzs/CHBVEki4ixZC6keq4VF0jv+8dUU+cGiiuYzWumDRHPr/cJUXFdWjUJKU5pz2Q3pyrcCy7EAARLB8ROIIvQtpbYVxj2/Q7pjIbduVuxaEjaAJ0bpPoJRiEx1086tpnk+E1OdCyQPbvyAJrHloRKHN7GzU= Received: by 10.114.146.1 with SMTP id t1mr5811347wad.20.1202046360133; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.81.16 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:46:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:16:00 +0530 From: "Venkatesh K" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_3071_28549273.1202046360125" References: <20080203070602.165ad048@scorpio> Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:46:01 -0000 ------=_Part_3071_28549273.1202046360125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Feb 3, 2008 6:34 PM, Venkatesh K wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 5:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 > > "Venkatesh K" wrote: > > > > > I did try that too! Still same problem. > > > > From the FreeBSD manual: > > > > 23.4.14.6. What do I do if something goes wrong? > > > > Make absolutely sure your environment has no extraneous cruft from > > earlier builds. This is simple enough. > > # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr > > # rm -rf /usr/obj/usr > > # cd /usr/src > > # make cleandir > > # make cleandir > > > > I had tried cleaning build tree as described above and building again. > It was of no help. Here are the steps I followed. 1. Cleaned up using following script clean.sh -------------------------------------------------------------------------- chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr rm -rf /usr/obj/usr cd /usr/src make cleandir make cleandir -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Cvsup latest sources using cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/supfile (attached). Build fails while compiling /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c. --------------------------------------- error.log -------------------------- cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../fsck_ffs -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../fsck_ffs/utilities.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../fsck_ffs -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../../sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_subr.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../fsck_ffs -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/sbin/fsdb/../../sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_tables.c (cd /usr/src/rescue/rescue/../../sbin/fsirand && make -DRESCUE CRUNCH_CFLAGS=-DRESCUE DIRPRFX=rescue/rescue/fsirand/ depend && make -DRESCUE CRUNCH_CFLAGS=-DRESCUE DIRPRFX=rescue/rescue/fsirand/ fsirand.o) rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -DRESCUE /usr/src/sbin/fsirand/fsirand.c echo fsirand: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DRESCUE -c /usr/src/sbin/fsirand/fsirand.c (cd /usr/src/rescue/rescue/../../sbin/gbde && make -DRESCUE CRUNCH_CFLAGS=-DRESCUE DIRPRFX=rescue/rescue/gbde/ depend && make -DRESCUE CRUNCH_CFLAGS=-DRESCUE DIRPRFX=rescue/rescue/gbde/ gbde.o template.o rijndael-alg-fst.o rijndael-api-fst.o sha2.o g_bde_lock.o) file2c 'const char template[] = {' ',0};' < /usr/src/sbin/gbde/template.txt > template.c rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c template.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys/crypto/rijndael/rijndael-alg-fst.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys/crypto/rijndael/rijndael-api-fst.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys/crypto/sha2/sha2.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys/geom/bde/g_bde_lock.c echo gbde: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libmd.a /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libutil.a /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libgeom.a >> .depend cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/gbde/../../sys -DRESCUE -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `g_read_data': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function `read' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `setup_passphrase': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:216: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_nuke': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:391: warning: implicit declaration of function `write' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `cmd_init': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:556: warning: implicit declaration of function `unlink' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c: In function `main': /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:801: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt' /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: `optarg' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sbin/gbde/gbde.c:804: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/gbde. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/rescue. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. --------------------------------------------- End error.log ------------------------------------- I hope the above info is sufficient for helping me out. Thanks, -- Venkatesh. 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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Cc: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Intel=AE_G31_+_ICH7?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:15:40 -0000 Hi Here you go!! pciconf -lv |grep -A4 '^none' none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x29c28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display subclass = VGA -- none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus none2@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x816810ec rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' class = network subclass = ethernet I was trying a ata disk, but the sata interface seems to work. Here is a pciconf without the grep!! pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x29c08086 chip=0x29c08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) Processor to I/O Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x29c18086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) PCIe Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x29c28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display subclass = VGA pcib2@pci0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x27d08086 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCIe Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0x27d28086 chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCIe Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xe1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27b88086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '945GL Intel 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27df8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA atapci1@pci0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27c08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus none2@pci3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0df7105b chip=0x816810ec rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' class = network subclass = ethernet re0@pci4:2:0: class=0x020000 card=0x311a1385 chip=0x816910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8110SB Single-Chip Gigabit LOM Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet Many thanks Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel" To: Cc: "Gordon McKee" Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Intel® G31 + ICH7 > On Saturday 02 February 2008 11:14:04 Gordon McKee wrote: >> Hi >> >> Does anyone know how to get FreeBSD to work with the above chipset. >> Tried >> 6.3 and 7 ISO images. Get lots of disk and no NIC is detected. >> >> I have >> http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_spec.aspx?ID=en-u >>s0000345. > > RTL8111B should be supported with rl driver. Apparently it's not detected, > so > a pciconf -lv |grep -A4 '^none' would help greatly. > > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 14:17:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F3B16A468 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEB813C461 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id h53so1868928hsh.11 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:17:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=FjE1vD+riorv9rz5r8yzluPlHT/lRLU6qfUHBBuoxAk=; b=BikjDrxj8607t69tk5DPYJpTikdh2k2sIrImVGW7a5NGucosZSmGxxHYioZgzMw4StthbXoH8P5Z7qAL9/X8l8g8WZNKaAXCoFbwZXoGf8JsZv0IzWTJq+FnOzysG6J97VnasAz4jrHt0EXgWfv7BsT0yKRgUblTZllvtI3c7WE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=e3wS87+fn5tWALB1M+JzOEpuVljsyR80aD2vh6cH9wVPuSfqOwU15v0tfalTdS4OXz31QLISl6QmdYHUBJm0aiQUOsouP5hDGPn7STAotl0I9ceoGitIdSl+ZVgf7ctS3yUZJNbLA5hFMdQL1V2FoOo6u2PJ8T2oHi73OZcJiw0= Received: by 10.150.57.5 with SMTP id f5mr2404493yba.140.1202046467731; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:47:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:47:47 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Eugen Udma Subject: Behind a router revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:17:03 -0000 I edited my original post for the wrapping problem and, as a result of Christian Baer response, I tried the default settings, so now I have the original (empty) /etc/dhclient.conf. Same result. I had a working minimal FreeBSD system until I put it behind a wireless router. Since then my network is not accessible anymore when I boot BSD. On the same desktop I have a Gentoo Linux system which works just fine, even if I didn't touch any of it's configuration files after I installed the router. The router is a ZyXEL P-335U wired to a cable modem. The desktop is plugged into a LAN port. A laptop connected by wireless has no problems. The router gets it's IP from the ISP and acts as a firewall and a DHCP server to my network: it serves a pool of 32 addresses starting at 192.168.1.33. Its own address is 192.168.1.1. The IP Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0. The configuration files for FreeBSD are shown below. The output of ifconfig and netstat are also shown for BSD and Linux. What confuses me is the fact that having the same router settings, when I boot in Linux the network is usable, while in BSD it's not: I can't even ping 192.168.1.1, while the same ping in Linux works. I read the handbook and various other BSD information sources on the web and I could not solve this issue. My question is: which config files do I have to edit and what settings should I use ? Thanks, eugene /etc/rc.conf --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ ifconfig dc0 (BSD) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active --------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ ifconfig eth0 (Linux) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:CF:52:B4:17 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ netstat -rn (BSD) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 4 dc0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.1.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 dc0 192.168.1.1 link#1 UHLW 2 4 dc0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- $ netstat -rn (Linux) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The content of /var/db/dhclient.leases.dc0 (BSD) is: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- lease { interface "dc0"; fixed-address 192.168.1.33; server-name "ZYXEL_P_335U"; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option routers 192.168.1.1; option domain-name-servers 64.59.176.13,64.59.176.15; option domain-name "wp.shawcable.net"; option dhcp-lease-time 259200; option dhcp-message-type 5; option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.1; option dhcp-renewal-time 129600; option dhcp-rebinding-time 226800; renew 1 2008/2/4 16:13:41; rebind 2 2008/2/5 19:13:41; expire 3 2008/2/6 04:13:41; } --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The content of /var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-eth0.info (Linux) is: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- IPADDR='192.168.1.33' NETMASK='255.255.255.0' BROADCAST='192.168.1.255' ROUTES='' GATEWAYS='192.168.1.1' HOSTNAME='dhcppc1' DNSDOMAIN='wp.shawcable.net' DNSSERVERS='64.59.176.13 64.59.176.15' DHCPSID='192.168.1.1' DHCPSNAME='ZYXEL_P_335U' LEASEDFROM='1202012861' LEASETIME='259200' RENEWALTIME='129600' REBINDTIME='226800' INTERFACE='eth0' CLASSID='dhcpcd 3.1.5' CLIENTID='ff:00:00:00:03:00:01:00:01:0e:90:86:a3:00:14:cf:52:b4:17' DHCPCHADDR='00:14:cf:52:b4:17' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 14:25:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D8916A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from que03.charter.net (que03.charter.net [209.225.8.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C0713C4F7 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mtai03.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080203140750.CWBS1410.mtai03.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:07:50 -0500 Received: from colossus.cotharyus.net ([71.87.188.55]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080203140750.CBJL17353.aarprv04.charter.net@colossus.cotharyus.net> for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:07:50 -0500 Message-ID: <47A5CADA.7010401@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:08:26 -0600 From: Drew Sanford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: Subject: 7.0RC1 - more panics, hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:25:19 -0000 Ok guys, frustrating one here. I installed 7.0RC1 on the system that I've been trying to make into my new server (it's a home thing, natd, email, apache, mysql, firewall, you know, fun stuff) and it has now failed catastrophically twice. The first time I was convinced it was the hard drive. This time though, I'm not. All of this hardware *tests* ok, that means memtest, seatools, etc find no problems with the hardware. But this hardware has been around for a while. What I'm looking for is an opinion - I watch the lists, and I've seen a few other page faults and trap 12's etc, but it looks like as a whole, people have having pretty good luck with 7.0RC1. Is there certain hardware I should look out for with 7.0, for instance, I have a nic using the re driver - is that ok? I know I can panic my desktop (6.2) using the nve card in it. One thing I have to point out is, I've had strange things come up on the console with this machine - USB errors for instance. And there is absolutely nothing USB hooked up to this machine, although it does have USB hardware. Bottom line: Do I keep exactly the same hardware, and try 6.3? Do just get new hardware (hey, lets face it, hardware is cheap, especially when all I need is a box to sit there and run with two nic's in it, a console output and a cd drive). Is there anything in particular anyone would like me to try with this system before I take it out back and shoot it? (seriously, current state:) The server boots, and miraculously enough, it routes internet traffic to the rest of my network. However, it's hosed it's file system but good, which is what it did last time too - trying to log into the console results in: /usr/bin/login: No such file or directory. I've booted in single user mode and fsck'd it. I'm certain that at most, it's hanging on by a thread. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 14:59:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C991E16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5641713C448 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:52002 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLgJo-0004ZS-7C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:59:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 72636 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 15:59:39 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 Feb 2008 15:59:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 66882 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 2008 15:59:39 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:59:39 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Christian Baer Message-ID: <20080203145939.GA66745@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Christian Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080203130333.GA66223@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JLgJo-0004ZS-7C. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JLgJo-0004ZS-7C 0f86718699a923c9a230b11360bb94dc Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:59:42 -0000 On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:34:48PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:03:33 +0100 Erik Trulsson wrote: > > >> D 0 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad4) > >> D 1 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad6) > >> D 2 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad8) > >> D 3 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad10) > >> D 4 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad12) > >> D 5 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad14) > >> > >> The device in brackets is the one I'd expect to get. Instead, I get this: > >> > >> ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 > >> ad6: 305245MB at ata3-master SATA150 > >> ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 > >> ad10: 305245MB at ata5-master SATA150 > >> ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 > >> ad18: 476940MB at ata9-master SATA150 > > > > How disks ars numbered do depend on which ports on which controller they > > are attached to. You want to use the lowest-numbered ports on the Promise > > controllers. Which ports that is when both controllers identify as a single > > controller is another question. From what you show it looks like all the > > odd-numbered ports are on one controller and all the even-numbered ports are > > on the other. > > Do you mean physically or logically? Physically the first four drives in > the top list (the two WDCs and the two Samsungs) are connected to the > first controller. The two Seagates are connected to the second. In that case my guess on how they were numbered seems wrong. FreeBSD seems to think that the two Samsung drives are connected to ports 1 and 3 on the first controller, while the two WDC drives are connected to ports 2 and 4 on the same controller. The two Seagate drives appear to be connected to ports 2 and 4 on the second controller, with ports 1 and 3 on that controller being unused. This may or may not be the same numbering of the ports as shown in the manual for the controller (and possibly printed on the card itself.) If it is the same, then all is fine, and working just as it should. If it is different then there is a bug somewhere. If this bug is in the controller, the manual for the controller, or FreeBSD's ATA driver is not something I can answer. Using Google to search for 'Promise SATA300-TX4 "port numbers"' indicate that this is a problem that several other people have encountered with this controller with both FreeBSD and LInux. The ports on the card are labeled 1-2-3-4 but are detected as 3-2-4-1 > > > Try experimenting by changing which disk is connected to which port and see > > if you can get the behaviour you want. > > I don't really want or nead any behaviour in particular. This is just a > matter of what's in the fstab. I was more wondering how this could be and > if this order (and thus the device names) will stay constant or if the OS > could get funny ideas after a csup and change this again, which would > certainly mess up my directory tree. It should stay constant unless there would be some change specifically in how the ATA driver enumerates the ports on this controller. > > I was also wondering about the "gap" there is in the device names. The > first controller should get ad4,6,8 and 10. But then, the second should > get 12 and not 14. What happened to 12? 12 is probably one of the two ports you are not using. (16 being the other.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:02:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C4716A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5F113C45D for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 95751 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 16:02:37 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 95739, pid: 95747, t: 0.1621s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2008 16:02:37 -0000 Message-ID: <47A5E595.3030404@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:02:29 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> <47A554B5.1080300@foster.cc> In-Reply-To: <47A554B5.1080300@foster.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:02:40 -0000 Mark D. Foster wrote: > DAve wrote: >> >> I am stumped, what have I done wrong? >> >> Thanks, >> >> DAve >> >> >> > Looks to me like you need to remove the pixelhammer.com zone from your > old bind servers, as the delegation from the root points to > ns1auth.tls.net and ns2auth.tls.net both of which appear to have > authority for the zone AND the txt record you seek. I used pixelhammer because it was not a commercial clients domain. ns1auth.tls.net is the server running TinyDNS. Text records work there. ns1.totallogic.com is the server running Bind and text records don't work. Yes, ns2.totallogic.com is a lame server for pixelhammer.com but I don't believe that causes Bind to withold a text record. For the purpose of testing it should work, shouldn't it? DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:07:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD99316A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6573E13C45B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 95877 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 16:07:11 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 95867, pid: 95873, t: 0.1464s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2008 16:07:10 -0000 Message-ID: <47A5E6A7.2030208@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:07:03 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:07:11 -0000 Andy Dills wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, DAve wrote: >> I am stumped, what have I done wrong? > > You'll kick yourself. Here's the hint: > > /users/andy>dig @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt > > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26833 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;ftp.pixelhammer.com. IN TXT > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > ftp.pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" I'm kicking but it ain't helping. Interesting that the host ftp works. It is also the last host in the zone. I tried tying the txt record to the origin but no change. According to the Bind book, and to the openspf folks, this should work. pixelhammer.com. IN TXT "some sorta krazy text string" But it don't. Now, I am even more confused. Does the location of the Text record 'within' the zone file make a difference? Thanks, DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:08:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4279B16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5E913C4EF for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1377209uge.37 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:08:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rL1phXb5jNeUP72HKkCbWmo5hO1wdj9hNS4thMZ2ZKk=; b=VnhHhMuilon17RbCKcvTy6RczbxORpUb6z13CpK5xsErz+udvSQiWydcPfp4cb4hBHnF6OX8+VkATy7QqaZ5LQExTY4bPHX3vO4kisngk5z4cMgTH79OX85+geRukMLE+XCx0ESGrnaqN/166WC7Y2cvsAqi/5atSw2/gJ7XmHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mvhNVN08uR6nutgD2tzWYMpi9+CI+31KC04c6Wb0+cW3d9K5nMul+hwyzWUzTtwmUpiJ4F4VDten/Fz7x5c+wV0cxktYRKitXm3yeLV22t30oipMYtiJUu8Ch6TKnGizMINj7x7oSIHKzpWD+7y25yF0c33L7jjQbhGSvaJYThM= Received: by 10.67.98.15 with SMTP id a15mr986855ugm.69.1202053253728; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.234.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:40:53 -0600 From: Matt To: "Christian Baer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:08:52 -0000 On Feb 3, 2008 6:13 AM, Christian Baer wrote: > Greetings programs! > > I have a computer here with 10 HDDs. Four of them are connected to the > southbridge of the mainboard. The other 6 are connected to two Promise > SATAII 300 TX4. Four of the drives are connected to the first controller > (making it 'full') the other two connected to the second. > > To make the device names predictable I was very careful how I connected > them. The four drives connected to the southbridge are in the right order > (this also means they have the device names ad0 to ad3). The drives > connected to the other controllers are a different story. > > The two controllers cooperate well and identify themselves as one > controller only. So I get only one message showing all the drives. The > drives are in this order in the BIOS message: > > D 0 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad4) > D 1 WDC WD3200SD-01KNB0 08.05J08 (ad6) > D 2 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad8) > D 3 SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-11 (ad10) > D 4 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad12) > D 5 Seagate ST3500320AS SD04 (ad14) > > The device in brackets is the one I'd expect to get. Instead, I get this: > > ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 > ad6: 305245MB at ata3-master SATA150 > ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master SATA300 > ad10: 305245MB at ata5-master SATA150 > ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 > ad18: 476940MB at ata9-master SATA150 > > Where did I go wrong? > > Regards, > Chris Is the concern with the apparent out-of-order numbering based on how you want to access these devices in areas like fstab? If so, I suggest using glabel(8) to label the drives and then address them by their labels elsewhere in the system. I think there may be cases where glabel won't be able to help, but it should work for many usage scenarios. Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:41:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D394316A421 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43A413C448 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l0ZF1Y0030vp7WLA50GB00; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:25:29 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([71.231.158.147]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l4RZ1Y0093B62Q78R00000; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:25:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=81ABGVOTAAAA:8 a=NFI2SIU6Sj1svG-oUkAA:9 a=Vk2vR52oOx3evlCEBxQHn431pHcA:4 a=Ff6Tcxb12tgA:10 a=xm4ZM_dawocA:10 Message-ID: <47A5EB00.3020704@foster.cc> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:25:36 -0800 From: "Mark D. Foster" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DAve References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> <47A5E6A7.2030208@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <47A5E6A7.2030208@pixelhammer.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:41:34 -0000 DAve wrote: > Andy Dills wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, DAve wrote: >> >>> I am stumped, what have I done wrong? >>> >> You'll kick yourself. Here's the hint: >> >> /users/andy>dig @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt >> >> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt >> ; (1 server found) >> ;; global options: printcmd >> ;; Got answer: >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26833 >> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 >> >> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >> ;ftp.pixelhammer.com. IN TXT >> >> ;; ANSWER SECTION: >> ftp.pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" >> > > I'm kicking but it ain't helping. Interesting that the host ftp works. > It is also the last host in the zone. I tried tying the txt record to > the origin but no change. According to the Bind book, and to the openspf > folks, this should work. > > pixelhammer.com. IN TXT "some sorta krazy text string" > > But it don't. Now, I am even more confused. Does the location of the > Text record 'within' the zone file make a difference? > > Thanks, > > DAve > > Andy was right, it's the line-ordering in your zone file. I take it you can't slave the zone from tinydns to bind? -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP http://mark.foster.cc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:56:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C5A16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F216413C4DD for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13GtHBj001685; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13GtC2C001682; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christian Baer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:56:08 -0000 > I already read that before I posted my question. Neither by this text, > nor by the one in the Wikipedia could I participate in the exitement > around ZFS. Ok, so it's a 128Bit FS. Big fat, hairy deal! I couldn't see that's like 64-bit soundcards that have to be "better" than 32-bit, while most of them was unable to actually get past 13-14 bit (most past 12) with it's signal to noise ratio. > any advantages in using it instead of FFS (UFS), but I thought I was ZFS is "better" because: 1) you make create 1000 of "filesystems" without partitioning. so lots of "admins" that think more partitions=better are happy. you may set quota for each "filesystem" 2) it takes many drives to the pool and you may add then new drives. same as gconcat+growfs. 3) it doesn't have per user quota, which creates a problem that is "solved" by 1), and you have to create at least one filesystem/user, which then is said to relieve admininstrator from work ;) 4) ZFS says that hardware checksums are not enough and disk hardware may be buggy so then "solve" this problem checking everything with CPU. while i've had failing drives many times i never seen it reading bad data and not reporting error. 5) you don't have to wait for fsck. one of the few real adventages. Anyway - FreeBSD doesn't crash like windoze, so it's not that big thing. 6) zfs set copies= works only on writes, but scrub doesn't make a missing copy when one is failed. so the best possible adventage (setting what file to mirror, what not) is lost. 7) there is no per file encryption, while it's said it will be SOON ready. 8) ZFS is clear winner on artifical tests like creating miliion of small files and then deleting them etc.. 9) ZFS is very fast, just add more RAM and faster CPU. i would - to make more RAM and CPU power available for programs i run, not to be wasted. there was a lot of excitement here after ZFS was ported, but i think it's time too see that 20 (or more?) year old UFS is still a winner. i think some changes in UFS, like larger cylinder groups (so there won't be 10000 of then on big filesystem), possibly dynamic allocation of inodes, would be good. but not critical :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 17:47:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C83416A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75013C457 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 84267 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 17:47:03 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 84257, pid: 84263, t: 0.3049s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:5373 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2008 17:47:02 -0000 Message-ID: <47A5FE0F.3090106@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:46:55 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> <47A5E6A7.2030208@pixelhammer.com> <47A5EB00.3020704@foster.cc> In-Reply-To: <47A5EB00.3020704@foster.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:47:08 -0000 Mark D. Foster wrote: > DAve wrote: >> Andy Dills wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, DAve wrote: >>> >>>> I am stumped, what have I done wrong? >>>> >>> You'll kick yourself. Here's the hint: >>> >>> /users/andy>dig @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt >>> >>> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @ns1.totallogic.com ftp.pixelhammer.com txt >>> ; (1 server found) >>> ;; global options: printcmd >>> ;; Got answer: >>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26833 >>> ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3 >>> >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >>> ;ftp.pixelhammer.com. IN TXT >>> >>> ;; ANSWER SECTION: >>> ftp.pixelhammer.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:65.196.224.82 ip4:65.196.224.83 ~all" >>> >> I'm kicking but it ain't helping. Interesting that the host ftp works. >> It is also the last host in the zone. I tried tying the txt record to >> the origin but no change. According to the Bind book, and to the openspf >> folks, this should work. >> >> pixelhammer.com. IN TXT "some sorta krazy text string" >> >> But it don't. Now, I am even more confused. Does the location of the >> Text record 'within' the zone file make a difference? >> >> Thanks, >> >> DAve >> >> > Andy was right, it's the line-ordering in your zone file. > I take it you can't slave the zone from tinydns to bind? > Arrrg! I tried moving the txt record but no change. I can put the recs in any order I want as the script that generates my Bind Zones pulls them from SQL, so arranging the keys to write out TXT in any place within the zone is easy enough to do. But I didn't see a difference before. I'll relook at what I did. This should not be that difficult, online docs show text examples with no mention of where in the zone they need to be. I would ahve thought that it A) didn't matter, or B) an origin line prior to the TXT line, or B) a full domain name in the text-name field would be able to over ride the previous host name. IOW, host IN A xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx domain. IN TXT "something" I would have though that a full origin name as the left value on the TXT line would override the previous host value. But that does not seem to be so. I still think I've done something wrong here. DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:11:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89DD16A421 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axel.burwitz@arcor.de) Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E7913C4EE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axel.burwitz@arcor.de) Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F22BC4A8 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:00:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (mail-in-14.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.54]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F6545C126 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:00:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from freebsd.debian (dslb-084-058-011-129.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.58.11.129]) (Authenticated sender: axel.burwitz@arcor.de) by mail-in-14.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE24B18797B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:00:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47A5F314.3050406@arcor.de> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:00:04 +0100 From: Axel Burwitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5670/Sun Feb 3 15:33:19 2008 on mail-in-14.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: ext2fs: strange behaviour after alternativ boot into other OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:11:45 -0000 Hi, is maybe somenone also noticing the following behaviour in FreeBSD 7.0 RC1 on his system: - have besides the FreeBSD slice additional some data partitions with ext2 on two discs in my system. As long as I only boot with FreeBSD, everything fine. - but when I occasionally boot with XP (from there I access via IFS the ext2fs [URL="http://www.fs-driver.org/"]http://www.fs-driver.org/[/URL] ) or with Linux and access these partitions, - then after following boot into FreeBSD these partitions don't get mounted, but I have to fix them with fsck first and then can mount them in 6.2 I had not seen this behaviour regards Axel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:14:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FC216A4E2 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 327F413C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 18:02:04 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 18:02:04 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.163] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 18:02:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2008 18:02:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 957694.87734.bm@omp408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22597 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2008 18:02:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=XVTNzsd06QYV/dvwXg/OhR3Ncla5ZohJQWdcNmzTZ2gxlhJnu7cS0Ha4/0AKAlJzx9Vv7KAPbmOktk6xSvik3aTlzdWGZCTqfrRQ4j0nBOHCwopbA7iYgU0VDLb5I+TAWdzohuu3Nd8bWJUWW6ce21EX6b8kHBJ5p/vhvHvxZgE=; X-YMail-OSG: ie6p_EAVM1lq7poKpU6RN1n5S1n6jO3zfZNSPRaxOwi.Do6zwoLyzRY3.MHttbZqrouqFuJObI7u5hvKOe0jI6r3Csoo6C6xuxO4sKy_8p9leNFwohk- Received: from [70.145.2.230] by web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:02:03 PST Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:02:03 -0800 (PST) From: p9_gkvye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <753543.16180.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: 6.3-RELEASE, i915G, drm, dri X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:14:44 -0000 I have an Intel i915G onboard graphics device that uses 8MB of shared memory. After installing 6.3-RELEASE I compiled a kernel with the drm and i915drm devices enabled (and leaving the agp device enabled). On boot, agp0 detects 8MB of memory for the i915G, and /dev/agpgart is created. But drm0 reports 0MB. Consequently (?), the kernel reports 0 memory available to the i810 driver in xorg, and dri is disabled. (The new "intel" display driver is worse -- xorg won't even run, complaining of insufficient memory.) When I was using 6.0 or 6.1 on this same hardware back in 2006, I implemented Eric Anholt's May, 2006, source modifications in /usr/src/sys/dev/drm. Then, with the drm and i915drm devices in the kernel, drm0 reported 8MB of memory, and dri in xorg worked after persuading the BIOS that there were 12MB. I'm therefore inclined to deem the present condition a regression. The 2006 drm patches won't compile in 6.3, apparently owing to subsequent changes in the code for the agp or pci devices. The 6.3 version of drm_agpsupport.c treats 6.3 the way Mr. Anholt's 2006 version treated 7.x, skipping some detection routines. Has anyone tried 7.0-RC1 with an i915? I suspect that it's the same as 6.3 in this regard. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:37:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086D316A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from fizeau.zen.co.uk (fizeau.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B1D13C46E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [212.23.3.141] (helo=heisenberg.zen.co.uk) by fizeau.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLjTV-0003e8-2F for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:21:53 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLjTS-0005sb-SA for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:21:50 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m13IM6q7033258 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:22:06 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13ILltH026144 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:21:47 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m13ILlMN026143 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:21:47 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:21:47 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:37:09 -0000 Hello, I've just completed installing FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE (Sat 2nd Feb 2008) and having finished installing (latest frokm ports) X, Gnome and linux-opera, I find that clicking on the linux-opera menu item fails to start Opera. Nothing gets logged to messages / security, and I can't think of where else to look for any hints as to what's going on. Here're the details on the machine (IBM T61p): $ uname -a FreeBSD ibm-t61p.. 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Feb 3 15:42:51 GMT 2008 @ibm-t61p..:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STEEL amd64 $ Package List: Only gnome2-2.20.2 linux-opera-9.25.20071214 xorg-7.3_1 (and all related ports from "make install clean" for xorg meta-port) Any suggestions / pointers you can offer would be appreciated, thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:38:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CAA16A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF1613C4D5 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona 1.7.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO [192.168.3.2]) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPA id 72620518; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:38:11 +0200 Message-ID: <47A60A10.80907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:38:08 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reinhold References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> In-Reply-To: <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:38:12 -0000 Reinhold wrote: >> If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to specify IP to >> let them be negotiated. > > How will I go ahead and set the static ips for both my wan connections? If IPs are static then provider itself will negotiate them every time same. If you will specify them and provider will request another, negotiation will fail. So I would not recommend you to specify them. > For wan1 I have one ip and for wan2 I have 5 ips Probably for wan2 you have one interface IP plus some network routed to you. PPP protocol does not allows to negotiate routed network, so that network probably should be configured by hands somewhere. > I was orginally thinking of seting up proxy-arp to add the extra 4 ips on > wan2 after connecting using the first ip, but now I'm not to sure anymore. proxy-arp is working only with Ethernet. If you are going to give that static IPs only to PPTP users - you probably don't need it. > We need these ips because some of the websites and servers that we manage > are ip restricked for added security, this is also the reason why I have a > pptp server for the people thats not in our office. You can specify static IPs for those users in mpd.secret file. > How does mpd5 assign the ng interfaces, in my previose cong there was a > line new -i ng0 provider PPPoE0, does mpd5 do this automatically? Interfaces will be allocated by system in order of usage. WAN1 will be ng0, WAN2 - ng1 and the PPTP link's interfaces will be allocated dynamically on connect. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:46:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCC416A47F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F36C713C4EE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 26355 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 18:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.15?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@76.199.107.118 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 18:46:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mO7ozGEVM1lAQyO.Wgy8NwtDy90VvlKiXy.Aa6XJ58dGBcVRFAfUbVDf3KOrHIXwuYjA0_xZWg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:46:20 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061027 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:46:26 -0000 I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older ports.tar.gz files. Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases? Thanks, -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:51:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5574616A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (www.violetlan.net [80.81.242.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF87E13C46A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA28311439; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:17:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.violetlan.net (mbali.violetlan.net [10.0.100.150]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8917D1142B; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:17:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 89.240.61.114 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@violetlan.net) by www.violetlan.net with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:20:49 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> In-Reply-To: <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:20:49 -0000 (GMT) From: "Reinhold" To: "Alexander Motin" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Reinhold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:51:56 -0000 Thanks for the reply. >> Here is what I've done so far. >> /usr/local/etc/mpd5/mpd.conf >> > > The config you have made probably suits to mpd3/4, but not to mpd5. Mpd5 > uses alike commands, but general configuration idea is different. There is > no mpd.links file in mpd5. Read new examples present in package. Thanks for that, I have added my new config file below. >> set ipcp ranges static-ip-0/32 isp-gateway-0/32 > > If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to specify IP to > let them be negotiated. How will I go ahead and set the static ips for both my wan connections? For wan1 I have one ip and for wan2 I have 5 ips I was orginally thinking of seting up proxy-arp to add the extra 4 ips on wan2 after connecting using the first ip, but now I'm not to sure anymore. We need these ips because some of the websites and servers that we manage are ip restricked for added security, this is also the reason why I have a pptp server for the people thats not in our office. Here is my new conf file. default: load wan1 load wan2 load pptp wan1: create bundle static WAN1 set iface route default set iface up-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan1.sh set iface down-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan1.sh set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 create link static L1 pppoe set link action bundle WAN1 set auth authname "username0@provider" set auth password "passwd" set pppoe iface fxp0 set pppoe service "BTConnect1" load common_setting wan2: create bundle static WAN2 set iface route default set iface up-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan2.sh set iface down-script /usr/local/etc/mpd/script-wan2.sh set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 create link static L2 pppoe set link action bundle WAN2 set auth authname "username1@provider" set auth password "passwd" set pppoe iface fxp1 set pppoe service "BTConnect2" load common_setting common_setting: set bundle disable multilink set link disable pap chap set link accept chap set link max-redial -1 set link mtu 1492 set link mru 1492 set link keep-alive 10 60 set ipcp yes vjcomp set ipcp enable req-sec-dns open pptp: set ippool add pool1 192.168.1.220 192.168.1.240 create bundle template B set iface enable proxy-arp set iface idle 1800 set iface enable tcpmssfix set ipcp yes vjcomp set ipcp ranges 192.168.1.1/32 ippool pool1 set ipcp dns 192.168.1.5 set bundle enable compression set ccp yes mppc set mppc yes e40 set mppc yes e128 set mppc yes stateless create link template L pptp set link action bundle B set link enable multilink set link yes acfcomp protocomp set link no pap chap set link enable chap set link keep-alive 10 60 set link mtu 1460 set pptp self wan1-static-ip set link enable incoming How does mpd5 assign the ng interfaces, in my previose cong there was a line new -i ng0 provider PPPoE0, does mpd5 do this automatically? Thanks again for the help. Reinhold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:58:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCAA16A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B492313C455 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13IuqC9002170; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:56:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13IulwG002167; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:56:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:56:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Axel Burwitz In-Reply-To: <47A5F314.3050406@arcor.de> Message-ID: <20080203195500.Q2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A5F314.3050406@arcor.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ext2fs: strange behaviour after alternativ boot into other OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:58:16 -0000 > is maybe somenone also noticing the following behaviour in FreeBSD 7.0 RC1 on > his system: > > - have besides the FreeBSD slice additional some data partitions with ext2 on > two discs in my system. As long as I only boot with FreeBSD, everything fine. > - but when I occasionally boot with XP (from there I access via IFS the > ext2fs [URL="http://www.fs-driver.org/"]http://www.fs-driver.org/[/URL] ) or > with Linux and access these partitions, > - then after following boot into FreeBSD these partitions don't get mounted, > but I have to fix them with fsck first and then can mount them > > in 6.2 I had not seen this behaviour > do you open it read-write under windoze? it is possible that ext2 support under FreeBSD is not up to date with possible changes in linux - so it can't mount it after being used, but fsck_ext2fs "fixes" it. it's just idea, i don't use linux for a long so no idea how much ext2 changed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 18:59:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B572816A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF0813C447 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13IwP1a002181; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:58:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13IwLP7002178; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:58:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:58:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stacey Roberts In-Reply-To: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Message-ID: <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:59:16 -0000 > I find that clicking on the linux-opera menu item fails to start Opera. > > Nothing gets logged to messages / security, and I can't think of where else > to look for any hints as to what's going on. start linux opera from xterm and read what's up. do you have linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 in fstab? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:18:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A78C16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07913C4E9 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLkM8-0003PL-1r; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:18:20 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m13JIauD033309; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:36 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13JIGoq026465; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:16 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m13JIGH1026464; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:16 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:18:16 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Stacey Roberts Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:18:22 -0000 Hi Wojciech! Thanks for getting back to me. On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I find that clicking on the linux-opera menu item fails to start Opera. > > > > Nothing gets logged to messages / security, and I can't think of where else > > to look for any hints as to what's going on. > > start linux opera from xterm and read what's up. Here's what I get output to screen: $ linux-opera & [1] 2263 [stroberts@ibm-t61p ~]$ shm_allow_removed is disable, set OPERA_NUM_XSHM to 0 to disable shared memory. ELF binary type "0" not known. ELF binary type "0" not known. ELF binary type "0" not known. /usr/local/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Flashing cursor on the last (empty) line. Hitting "Enter" exits the process as follows: [1]+ Exit 2 linux-opera > > do you have > > linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 > 0 > No - here's what fstab looks like on the machine: $ cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad4s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s2a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad4s2e /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s2d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s2f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s2g /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 $ Note that that line is not in /etc/fstab on *any* of the other FreeBSD workstations here. Another thing I neglected to point out is that I tried Firefox that was installed as part of Gnome, and that fires up fine :-/ Thanks again for the response. If there's anything else I can provide, please let me know. Regards, S Roberts > > in fstab? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:22:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D35816A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473A013C46B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13JLEpE002366; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:21:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13JLCrG002363; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:21:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:21:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stacey Roberts In-Reply-To: <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Message-ID: <20080203202018.O2285@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:22:12 -0000 > $ linux-opera & > [1] 2263 > [stroberts@ibm-t61p ~]$ shm_allow_removed is disable, set OPERA_NUM_XSHM to 0 > to disable shared memory. > ELF binary type "0" not known. > ELF binary type "0" not known. > ELF binary type "0" not known. ^^^^^^^^^^^ this is strange - like no linux emulation active at all. no more ideas. sorry. > /usr/local/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:32:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD20116A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAB2B13C468 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 13989 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 19:32:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.15?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@76.199.107.118 with plain) by smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 19:32:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Kqef3OMVM1lDiLZfGmKUTCMoWS6UraMUaAzp3omJymnI5LNQv.Yl1gSPw_XZPCbb7gHXOdR756vR.uvQ8Z2DX5cUlDDxq9BNWvatJ15i6KJSyX7rMyrkpgIL9ebZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47A616C5.2050204@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:32:21 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061027 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lena@lena.kiev.ua References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> <20080203191951.GG741@lena.kiev> In-Reply-To: <20080203191951.GG741@lena.kiev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:32:22 -0000 Lena@lena.kiev.ua wrote: >>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the >>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile >> >> > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/wine/ > > The page can select only tags with released FreeBSD version. Is there any way to select an intermediate version (tag)? -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:34:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5516A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC07B13C474 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13JWIJ4002449 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:32:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13JTwkC002430; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:32:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:29:58 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stacey Roberts In-Reply-To: <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Message-ID: <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:34:14 -0000 > $ cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/ad4s2b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad4s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad4s2e /home ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad4s2d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad4s2f /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad4s2g /var ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > $ > > Note that that line is not in /etc/fstab on *any* of the other FreeBSD > workstations here. possibly not all linux programs need this add linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 and turn ON linux emulation because this is probably your problem :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:38:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C2E16A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from mx3.cyfra.com (mx3.cyfra.ua [62.80.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247F913C45A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from c.216.174.a516.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net ([62.80.174.216] helo=bedside.lena.kiev.ua) by mx3.cyfra.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLkfw-00011W-8s; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:38:48 +0200 Received: from bedside.lena.kiev.ua (localhost.lena.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1]) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m13JckZn005417; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:38:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: (from lena@localhost) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m13Jcj4x005416; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:38:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:38:45 +0200 From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" Message-ID: <20080203193845.GI741@lena.kiev> References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> <20080203191951.GG741@lena.kiev> <47A616C5.2050204@lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A616C5.2050204@lbl.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:38:49 -0000 > >>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the > >>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/wine/ > > > The page can select only tags with released FreeBSD version. > Is there any way to select an intermediate version (tag)? Don't select tags. Click the "Makefile" link. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:44:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD5016A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28EE313C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 59085 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 19:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.15?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@76.199.107.118 with plain) by smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 19:44:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qIsPdDUVM1lsVFAJE0aOmyuKIA9BuUSz4hwxdHSCDuFGsJ_PeZePf9xOqFTXwsoS8gRx26YP7vABKR6yeW0T9JpxVE0SPHj_rQnd7oIlD6GVZ5xWqm5eAvwUWLhF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47A619AA.9070305@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:44:42 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061027 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> <20080203194117.GA68667@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080203194117.GA68667@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:44:44 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: >On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:46:20AM -0800, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote: > > >>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the >>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile >>to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older >>ports.tar.gz files. >> >>Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain >>wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases? >> >>Thanks, >>-Jin >> >> >> > >You can always pull any version of source files (including the ports tree) >directly from the CVS repository. >See http://www.freebsd.org/developers/cvs.html for information on how to do >that. > >You will however not find any version of the ports tree that include Wine >0.9.37 or 0.9.38 because support for those versions were never added to the >ports tree as far as I can tell. > > Yup, only 0.9.36 and 0.9.39 are there. Thanks, -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:45:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8FF16A47F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from smtp116.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp116.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED19A13C4E8 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: (qmail 67932 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 19:45:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.15?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@76.199.107.118 with plain) by smtp116.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Feb 2008 19:45:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: h7tI4M8VM1kRYnxeE.cDgyr7LMaGDPG3IuntB4l.ezKzEsxcSnGd1B2FIpIuHbwbU1wV26jZbFPyE1Zb8RLPHtlg9QTcL9B6weRUIG6UX8mlVfjD4aaKNBOPLXxY X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47A619C6.20100@lbl.gov> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:45:10 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061027 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lena@lena.kiev.ua References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> <20080203191951.GG741@lena.kiev> <47A616C5.2050204@lbl.gov> <20080203193845.GI741@lena.kiev> In-Reply-To: <20080203193845.GI741@lena.kiev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:45:12 -0000 Lena@lena.kiev.ua wrote: >>>>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the >>>>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile >>>> >>>> >>>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/wine/ >>> >>> >>> >>The page can select only tags with released FreeBSD version. >>Is there any way to select an intermediate version (tag)? >> >> > >Don't select tags. Click the "Makefile" link. > > Got it. Thanks, -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B1B16A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C635613C45A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:53502 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLkiQ-0006p0-80 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:41:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 74234 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2008 20:41:17 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 Feb 2008 20:41:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 68700 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Feb 2008 20:41:17 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:41:17 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Jin Guojun \[VFFS\]" Message-ID: <20080203194117.GA68667@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" , ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JLkiQ-0006p0-80. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JLkiQ-0006p0-80 fe411b4357b9664d6636312e01d85ab0 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:56:30 -0000 On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:46:20AM -0800, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote: > I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the > ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile > to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older > ports.tar.gz files. > > Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain > wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases? > > Thanks, > -Jin > You can always pull any version of source files (including the ports tree) directly from the CVS repository. See http://www.freebsd.org/developers/cvs.html for information on how to do that. You will however not find any version of the ports tree that include Wine 0.9.37 or 0.9.38 because support for those versions were never added to the ports tree as far as I can tell. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:17:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769A516A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F713C469 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1548537wxd.7 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:17:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=sZcyx7CYaKXw39YVeDqkGVgz9hhgi+CizzdZtD+hLys=; b=p7QG9miUo9Q5rG8SrQ0Q2WGmIlmXPd3hZZlcyeh/XiWyjkoIroirA/FyA/6VAAgLuRqPLNLmz4XpXedgqsrNGJEUSMfCdGEDKkAlaWbHYfaz1BaHN1SlAFal3h951zefb8O+vwESTFkBF7d7bGQAbro/U1YhxlUsyhittqrmXBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Hm+VcTu9GmoLCjt6dPHKMB/gxeYJy3Wzp4hUnP7/q7x2ldlneTJFHoGGToeS2REmySaTPOi/DeiL10QzZS3IcHaEK2KVrz/D/ZQKnxcbF6L/DndLpaOTKzfaqM7DCgZ9vnbgL+qXyZOZv93Cjie4w98DZy4I3YYbb6oTNhm80aQ= Received: by 10.150.190.9 with SMTP id n9mr2555191ybf.127.1202069874022; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.11.19 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:17:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5b826e210802031217l7df71386p5f876072996bc4d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:17:53 +0200 From: "Reinis Ivanovs" Sender: fatalis.erratum@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: e492b512b51a8174 Subject: wireless losing connection periodically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:17:55 -0000 hello, I've noticed that my wireless connection tends to drop once in a while and only restores itself after a relatively longish period. I'm dealing with it now by connecting a laptop by wire (the box doesn't have a screen or a keyboard) and running "/etc/rc.d/netif restart ral0", but that's a bother. googling didn't bring up any useful results, so I'm wondering, what are the best ways to mitigate or fix this (aside from using a wire)? I'm considering writing a simple script that'd constantly ping my router and restart the wlan interface if it stops responding, but perhaps there's something pre-made or more simple than that available? cheers, reinis -- http://untu.ms/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:23:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4722B16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (ns2.violetlan.net [80.81.242.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108B13C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079F411439 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:23:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.violetlan.net (mbali.violetlan.net [10.0.100.150]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1191142B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 89.240.61.114 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@violetlan.net) by www.violetlan.net with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:27:07 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1329.89.240.61.114.1202070427.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:27:07 -0000 (GMT) From: "Reinhold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:23:08 -0000 > If IPs are static then provider itself will negotiate them every time > same. If you will specify them and provider will request another, > negotiation will fail. So I would not recommend you to specify them. > >> For wan1 I have one ip and for wan2 I have 5 ips >> > > Probably for wan2 you have one interface IP plus some network routed to > you. PPP protocol does not allows to negotiate routed network, so that > network probably should be configured by hands somewhere. > To be honest, I don't know why we have 5 ips on wan2, I have no need for them at all. It might be usefull once I register a proper domain for the office, but for now we are using no-ip.org and it is working just fine. What I do know is that if I disconnect let say wan2 for some time and then reconnect, I will be assigned an ip address on a total different subnet and it messes up everything, I have to manually set the ips in our router for them to be used, this is why I'm asking how I can set the ip addresses, on wan1 if I reboot the router where I haven't set the static ip, it does reconnect using the correct ip, but I have never disconnected this line for more the 1 minute. Right now I'm using wan1 for all our outgoing ftp, one site that doesn't like load balancing and incoming pptp connections, wan2 is used for outgoing https and ssh connections, incoming http and ssh connections is coming in on both wan1 and wan2 depending on which ip is registered at no-ip.org. All other outgoing connections are using both wan1 and wan2. All this I can do with PF, but I need to find a way to set the ips. > >> How does mpd5 assign the ng interfaces, in my previose cong there was a >> line new -i ng0 provider PPPoE0, does mpd5 do this automatically? > > Interfaces will be allocated by system in order of usage. WAN1 will be > ng0, WAN2 - ng1 and the PPTP link's interfaces will be allocated > dynamically on connect. I'm guesing here that because you have not specified any lines from my new config file that it should be working and thanks for explaining how it assignes ng interfaces. Regards Reinhold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:33:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A3A16A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C4413C458 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLlWh-0000jo-Gy; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:33:19 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m13KXaGm033379; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:36 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13KXCvV026813; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:16 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m13KXB6o026812; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:11 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:10 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Stacey Roberts Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:33:21 -0000 Hi Wojciech! Thanks for the response. On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > $ cat /etc/fstab > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > > Pass# > > /dev/ad4s2b none swap sw 0 0 > > /dev/ad4s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > > /dev/ad4s2e /home ufs rw 2 2 > > /dev/ad4s2d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 > > /dev/ad4s2f /usr ufs rw 2 2 > > /dev/ad4s2g /var ufs rw 2 2 > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > $ > > > > Note that that line is not in /etc/fstab on *any* of the other FreeBSD > > workstations here. > > possibly not all linux programs need this > > add > > linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 > 0 > > > and turn ON linux emulation because this is probably your problem :) > Err., if you meant to ensure that "linux_enable="YES"" is in /etc/rc.conf, and that linux-base is installed, then these have already been done. Thanks all the same - I've submitted a PR. Regards, S Roberts > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:46:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B8916A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412E913C459 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13KjIgX007289; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13KjIYE007286; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:18 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stacey Roberts In-Reply-To: <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Message-ID: <20080203214420.X7285@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:46:29 -0000 so please ask some else :) i have no other ideas. and please check your mailserver (respond on priv please) Feb 3 21:42:04 wojtek sm-mta[7276]: m13Kf36P007273: to=, ctladdr= (1003/1003), delay=00:01:01, xdelay=00:01:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31239, relay=mailstore1.secureserver.net. [64.202.166.11], dsn=5.1.3, stat=User unknown > > Err., if you meant to ensure that "linux_enable="YES"" is in /etc/rc.conf, > and that linux-base is installed, then these have already been done. > > Thanks all the same - I've submitted a PR. > > Regards, > > S Roberts > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:54:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDAF16A501 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A6413C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1559937wxd.7 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=8WI5i0n8lwT2hVEvBW+hOjS3AlYipw9vnj721N8Hovw=; b=jXx0l6YpR9Vn8yEECQCr8sGHlp01JM3YTYWhmGlr/WqPzX4G3a2Ppm47iF+zinyKstH/67MTHQeeboM3O8pt+7Gf1y2HG60cTA2AzDIPLN31dvHPX0EuS77XbREjJXtToptu9243SKPYe5c8LgDn09UktRf7M0JDZ3+zXdPwWzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JFogkvIEmskdUM3irCllriqwkwu4ck/ybTcxxD3VSKGZ2eDwsCN7mckTiDPdTAi0lxN9tTa/odavOgpbjHD5xB/B9IvrctPupguZ/o6Qdm76xRP5ByZ5gpSn5iLQBrN/bGx4aWdbm0y302HDv0GC6Hcsljcd7B5JxpL57R3dAd4= Received: by 10.150.133.17 with SMTP id g17mr2568190ybd.27.1202072072438; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.157.7 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:54:32 -0300 From: "Oren Almog" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ports binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:54:33 -0000 Hi When are new binary packages available? Are they compiled only at RELEASEs? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:57:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860DA16A420 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D18F13C457 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.197] (helo=tfad) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JLlts-0002qL-Uj; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:57:17 +0300 To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:57:03 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> (Stacey Roberts's message of "Sun\, 3 Feb 2008 20\:33\:10 +0000") Message-ID: <39775872@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:57:20 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:10 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > and turn ON linux emulation because this is probably your problem :) > > > Err., if you meant to ensure that "linux_enable="YES"" is in /etc/rc.conf, > and that linux-base is installed, then these have already been done. Strange. Please, give an output for: % uname -a % kldstat | grep linux % sysctl -a | grep linux % ls -ld /var/db/pkg/linux* > Thanks all the same - I've submitted a PR. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 20:59:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FC916A469 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from mx3.cyfra.com (mx3.cyfra.ua [62.80.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C70613C469 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from c.216.174.a516.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net ([62.80.174.216] helo=bedside.lena.kiev.ua) by mx3.cyfra.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLkNh-0008Me-Mw; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:19:57 +0200 Received: from bedside.lena.kiev.ua (localhost.lena.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1]) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m13JJqpl005136; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:19:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: (from lena@localhost) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m13JJpuX005135; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:19:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:19:51 +0200 From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" Message-ID: <20080203191951.GG741@lena.kiev> References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:59:19 -0000 > I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the > ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/wine/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:14:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EF116A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD1E13C44B for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1425056uge.37 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:14:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=6tT20tgmp/m3AiSqV/MQHnHv7d9o71qAsdsrDVqL6mU=; b=mnhoh8rat2jvZlU3x+Xj48JVyB4GERNtGGR71X7bUtYDa4IDy7WmcTcu8jTQp0tGFdWzaHt/FVhFss5L1lH4B4/wEgjZen/JWD1HLBqD+TB6SRhJv7EDyOn4iqEENh26g/KFPxbxQztS/YPzjHn6jEkcJyQu5uLUOio7QogjJh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=hjcinR7CCB2IJd8kUv5eUbTpxDmGyyqQqFBBb/5tkOxzxT29cJOK1Ib6lDVOigSxm1pcrNonwrLoiBrZZAUPww30fdvglYCzA3y5W2PG2IbvNepHvWtgKmNx4DVZ5Cxk27FsAsTNrUq5cYhvIFo7j8AM24weB54EhlVJR+KJDIc= Received: by 10.66.254.19 with SMTP id b19mr1343866ugi.7.1202071706589; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.25.0.18? ( [41.245.183.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u6sm18071359uge.83.2008.02.03.12.48.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:47:56 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Gunther Mayer Cc: Subject: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:14:30 -0000 Hi there, I have a RAID 1 mirror implemented with gmirror and we recently had some power issues at our data centre which caused fsck to fail mysteriously. The server lost power unexpectedly, then came back up again for a minute, power died again and shortly after the next boot the following appears in my /var/log/messages Feb 2 05:20:19 myserver fsck: /dev/mirror/gm0s1f: INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=777684 (8 should be 0) (CORRECTED) Feb 2 05:20:19 myserver fsck: /dev/mirror/gm0s1f: CANNOT READ BLK: 12417184 Feb 2 05:20:19 myserver fsck: /dev/mirror/gm0s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. gm0s1f is my /usr partition. This was followed by countless errors that look like Feb 2 05:20:38 myserver ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=29096879 Feb 2 05:20:43 myserver ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (0 retries left) LBA=29096879 Feb 2 05:20:48 myserver ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out LBA=29096879 Feb 2 05:20:48 myserver g_vfs_done():mirror/gm0s1f[READ(offset=6357598208, length=16384)]error = 5 and with it went any sort of remote access to the box. We had to get physical access, fsck -y and reboot for the machine to be put back into service. Now my question is: Why did fsck die on me? I thought in this day and age file system corruptions caused by power failures are repaired automatically upon reboot. Or is it possible that interrupting fsck itself caused the problem when the system went down again after the very brief uptime in between? I am really concerned about this as this caused a lot of unnecessary downtime and I really don't want this to ever happen again. I know, solving the power issues is the real solution but I want my several layers of peace of mind. Oh, I run 6.2 RELEASE. Gunther From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:17:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D76216A419 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066B813C45D; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47A62F6A.9020807@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:17:30 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oren Almog References: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:17:32 -0000 Oren Almog wrote: > Hi > > When are new binary packages available? Are they compiled only at RELEASEs? No, they are compiled and updated continuously. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:17:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DC216A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B47A13C458 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.197] (helo=tfad) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JLmDm-0002sK-Ov; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:17:50 +0300 To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <39775872@ipt.ru> <20080203210706.GF1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:17:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080203210706.GF1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> (Stacey Roberts's message of "Sun\, 3 Feb 2008 21\:07\:06 +0000") Message-ID: <73694645@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:17:52 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > > % kldstat | grep linux > $ kldstat | grep linux > $ > Nothing was returned.., OK. Can you try "kldload linux" as root, repeat that "kldstat..." and if it shows "linux.ko" then try to run linux-opera? WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:23:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2746316A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from doppler.zen.co.uk (doppler.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58AE13C457 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [212.23.3.141] (helo=heisenberg.zen.co.uk) by doppler.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLm40-0007dD-Tb for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:07:44 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLm3S-0004qk-SU; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:07:11 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m13L7RCf033410; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:27 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13L768p026996; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m13L765r026995; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20080203210706.GF1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , stacey@vickiandstacey.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <39775872@ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39775872@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, stacey@vickiandstacey.com Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:23:33 -0000 Hi Boris! Good to hear from you.., On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:33:10 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > and turn ON linux emulation because this is probably your problem :) > > > > > > Err., if you meant to ensure that "linux_enable="YES"" is in /etc/rc.conf, > > and that linux-base is installed, then these have already been done. > > Strange. Please, give an output for: > % uname -a $ uname -a FreeBSD ibm-t61p.. 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Feb 3 15:42:51 GMT 2008 @..:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STEEL amd64 $ > % kldstat | grep linux $ kldstat | grep linux $ Nothing was returned.., > % sysctl -a | grep linux $ sysctl -a | grep linux hw.snd.compat_linux_mmap: 0 $ > % ls -ld /var/db/pkg/linux* $ ls -ld /var/db/pkg/linux* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:53 /var/db/pkg/linux-aspell-0.50.4.1_2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:53 /var/db/pkg/linux-expat-1.95.8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:56 /var/db/pkg/linux-flashplugin-9.0r115 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:53 /var/db/pkg/linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:56 /var/db/pkg/linux-openssl-0.9.7f drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:53 /var/db/pkg/linux-opera-9.25.20071214 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:53 /var/db/pkg/linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 3 11:51 /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc-4_10 $ > If there's anything else I can supply, please let me know. Thanks for getting in touch.., Regards, S Roberts > -- > bsam > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DD116A417; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from cp65.agava.net (cp65.agava.net [89.108.66.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AF213C447; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by cp65.agava.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JLkzx-000LNp-F0; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:59:29 +0300 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415DD6AFC; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:57:32 +0300 (MSK) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A415817031; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:56:52 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:56:52 +0300 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" Message-ID: <20080203195652.GB74879@hades.panopticon> References: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A60BFC.9010203@lbl.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cp65.agava.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - amdmi3.ru X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to find old ports.tar.gz files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:32:39 -0000 * Jin Guojun [VFFS] (j_guojun@lbl.gov) wrote: > I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the > ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile > to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older > ports.tar.gz files. > > Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain > wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases? ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade will help you. -- Dmitry A. Marakasov | jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru amdmi3@amdmi3.ru | http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:40:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C515516A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DE513C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JLmZD-0001ni-0b; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:39:59 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m13LeG0H033438; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:40:16 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13LdvOM027168; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:58 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m13LdviF027167; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:57 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:57 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20080203213957.GG1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: Boris Samorodov , stacey@vickiandstacey.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <39775872@ipt.ru> <20080203210706.GF1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <73694645@ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73694645@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, stacey@vickiandstacey.com Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:40:00 -0000 Hi Boris, Good to hear from you.., On Mon, 04 Feb 2008, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > % kldstat | grep linux > > > $ kldstat | grep linux > > $ > > Nothing was returned.., > > OK. Can you try "kldload linux" as root, repeat that "kldstat..." and > if it shows "linux.ko" then try to run linux-opera? > :-) Did these after my reply to you - and "Yes", linux-opera does load. Strange this.., On my other (FreeBSD-6 Stable) machines, simply having "linux_enable="YES"" in /etc/rc.conf is enough. Could this be something in 7.0, or have I misunderstood something along the way? Thanks! Regards, S Roberts > > WBR > -- > bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 21:54:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F3E16A418 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C2313C43E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m13LcJ8Y003149; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:38:20 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:38:22 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802031338.22994.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Venkatesh K Subject: Re: buildworld failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:54:05 -0000 On Sunday 03 February 2008, Venkatesh K wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 6:34 PM, Venkatesh K wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2008 5:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:00:36 +0530 > > > > > > "Venkatesh K" wrote: > > > > I did try that too! Still same problem. > > > > > > From the FreeBSD manual: > > > > > > 23.4.14.6. What do I do if something goes wrong? > > > > > > Make absolutely sure your environment has no extraneous cruft > > > from earlier builds. This is simple enough. > > > # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr > > > # rm -rf /usr/obj/usr > > > # cd /usr/src > > > # make cleandir > > > # make cleandir > > > > I had tried cleaning build tree as described above and building > > again. It was of no help. > > Here are the steps I followed. > > 1. Cleaned up using following script clean.sh > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr > rm -rf /usr/obj/usr > cd /usr/src > make cleandir > make cleandir > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >----- 2. Cvsup latest sources using cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/supfile > (attached). > I have never found the cleandir to be useful when you do it more than once. If you "rm -rf src" you have done the ultimate cleandir. Considering all of the things you have tried, why don't you switch your cvsup mirror. They get out of whack once in awhile. I have been using cvsup8 and it is keeping up with the ports. I am starting a build to see if it has any problems but I don't expect any. If your port tree is current and your docs tree is current, you can expect your source tree to also be current. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 22:18:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD89016A41A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC7213C45A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.197] (helo=tfad) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JLnA9-0002xt-4F; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:18:09 +0300 To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com References: <20080203182147.GC1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203195723.F2146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203191816.GD1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080203202910.X2428@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080203203310.GE1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <39775872@ipt.ru> <20080203210706.GF1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <73694645@ipt.ru> <20080203213957.GG1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:18:01 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080203213957.GG1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> (Stacey Roberts's message of "Sun\, 3 Feb 2008 21\:39\:57 +0000") Message-ID: <96891014@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: linux-opera-9.25.20071214 on FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 fails to start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:18:11 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:39:57 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > On Mon, 04 Feb 2008, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:07:06 +0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > % kldstat | grep linux > > > > > $ kldstat | grep linux > > > $ > > > Nothing was returned.., > > > > OK. Can you try "kldload linux" as root, repeat that "kldstat..." and > > if it shows "linux.ko" then try to run linux-opera? > > > :-) > Did these after my reply to you - and "Yes", linux-opera does load. Good. > Strange this.., On my other (FreeBSD-6 Stable) machines, simply having > "linux_enable="YES"" in /etc/rc.conf is enough. Could this be something in This should be enough... > 7.0, or have I misunderstood something along the way? ...and nothing should be changed at 7.x. Please, check up this line. May be it is spelled incorrectly. Or may be you have rc.conf.local file overriding rc.conf... WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 22:40:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8EB16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDAC13C4D1 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13Me2hc007854; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:40:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m13MdxYh007851; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:40:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:39:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gunther Mayer In-Reply-To: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:40:51 -0000 it failed while rebuilding with badly written data on the disk that was used, while other rebuild. now it can't read it. if you are sure that it doesn't pass through fsck before second reboot, do the following. 1) turn off gmirror 2) clear gmirror header on both providers 3) run fsck the other drive (not ad6, but the other used on mirror). 4) pray 5) after fsck will end it successfully (it should), create gmirror with the disk you checked gmirror label gmirror-name /dev/thedisk 6) reboot and start the system. should go well. 7) after system is running and not too much needing disk I/O, do gmirror insert gmirror-name /dev/ad6 8) pray again, but with much less fear. 9) if gmirror will finish rebuild, all right. if you got write errors in log, ad6 needs to be replaced. wish it helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 00:41:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D6316A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A6713C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 52613291EA6 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:41:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:41:13 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:41:15 -0000 it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled with a log file (telnetted into another machine) which is scrolled off the screen. How do I select all the text in one go? I only seem to be able to select the visible screenful, copy, paste into text file, scroll up, select the next screenful etc. I want the screen to scroll when the mouse pointer hits the top or bottom of the window. The best I've done so far is script - it works but it's messy. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 01:33:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D6D16A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 01:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8EB13C448 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 01:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2008 20:32:57 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OJJ50483; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2008 20:31:55 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18342.27463.531242.853756@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:32:55 -0500 To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> References: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:33:00 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled > with a log file (telnetted into another machine) which is > scrolled off the screen. If you can telnet, can you ftp? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 01:34:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96BC16A421 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 01:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A86213C46E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 01:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JLqDe-0005qj-Si for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:33:58 +0000 Received: from 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru ([89.178.223.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:33:58 +0000 Received: from swell.k by 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:33:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: swell.k@gmail.com Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:33:49 +0300 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <86ejbtqzcy.fsf@gmail.com> References: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-178-223-218.broadband.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ApFpx1naVfLa7xxEILr+b/bobpU= Sender: news Subject: Re: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:34:05 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled with a > log file (telnetted into another machine) which is scrolled off the > screen. How do I select all the text in one go? I only seem to be able > to select the visible screenful, copy, paste into text file, scroll > up, select the next screenful etc. I want the screen to scroll when > the mouse pointer hits the top or bottom of the window. > > The best I've done so far is script - it works but it's messy. 1 start selection by left mouse button 2 scroll to the end of desired text 3 extend selection by right mouse button ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 02:24:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5325316A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3CB13C458 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.12.101] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m142OL03030676 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:24:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47A67752.70702@brianwhalen.net> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:24:18 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4798F1D0.3090009@gmail.com> <26ddd1750801241232l51792bf3ydc02e17e4be49d6e@mail.gmail.com> <20080124210539.GA50047@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <26ddd1750801241408w7b776c87g14b94cfa1433616a@mail.gmail.com> <47995F19.7050905@gmail.com> <26ddd1750801242035j3b3cea5ek281fe7e00afbf217@mail.gmail.com> <47997BE0.5020203@gmail.com> <479986B2.7090902@brianwhalen.net> <26ddd1750801251636s1cfb7897pdc570d54af744a9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750801251636s1cfb7897pdc570d54af744a9d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: speeding up buildworld/kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:24:23 -0000 I have started using ccache as a result of this thread, the speed benefit for old hw is nice. p3-850 Cele This would be 3-4 hours for a buildworld and a make kernel, now it is 3234.877u 2318.444s 1:44:56.27 88.1% 2580+1569k 79615+15476io 10553pf+0w K6-2 450 This would be 8-9 hours for a buildworld and a make kernel, now it is 5835.095u 3103.667s 3:29:42.86 71.0% -2168+1636k 140556+17495io 15489pf+0w This definitely makes it more feasible to use older hardware longer. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 02:48:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B216A421 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547A613C465 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m142jhNH004833; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m142jgLr004832; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:45:42 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Fira Message-ID: <20080204024542.GA4721@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <465d309c0802020528g6e1df120hd1ac703a28940edf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465d309c0802020528g6e1df120hd1ac703a28940edf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:48:57 -0000 On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 08:28:37PM +0700, Fira wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to migrate one of my server (machine A) into another (machine B). My > choice is using 'dump' and 'restore'. I've dumped all of my filesystem into > third machine (machine C) over ssh. All went fine. > Then, I want to restore it into machine B. This machine is newly fresh, no > freebsd inside. My plan is restore the dump file into it by using installer > CD. I use the cd/dvd fixit mode. At this time, my confusion begun. To > restore it, I need to create the slice. I did 'fdisk' and 'disklabel' > from sysinstall. But it failed. I followed tutorial from > http://devpit.org/wiki/Dump_and_Restore_over_SSH [of course with some > adjustment], but I still failed. > > My question is, how is the right way to do the restore in a system that > hasn't been installed with freebsd at all? From what I get in google, every > restore example is done on a system that has been installed an OS. I am not sure what didn't happen or if you left something out of your description, but I will take a shot here. First, You also don't mention the FreeBSD version you are working with, but 'disklabel' has been replaced with 'bsdlabel' several versions ago. Next, although you say you used fdisk to create slices and bsdlabel[disklabel] (presumably to create partitions) you don't mention using newfs to create filesystems on the partitions. Then, you do not mention creating any mount points for the new filesystems/partitions. These can all be done using sysinstall on the install CD and that can be a good way to do it. You tend to forget fewer steps, because it keeps track of them for you. It is not a bad thing to just do a very basic install of the version you want and with the partitions created to the size you want. Then restore the backups right over it. Or, maybe better than that, just create the slice/partitions/filesystems with sysinstall and then get out of it and boot again and go into the 'fixit' sell. That will have enough to do everything. If you use sysinstall this way, you will still manually need to create mount points and mount the new filesystems. So, here is the general procedure - presuming you are using the disk only for FreeBSD. Dual boot is similar, but you need to specify a couple of things differently. Boot the install disk and bring up either the fixit or sysinstall. Use fdisk (or sysinstall) to create a single slice that is marked as bootable. Also write the standard FreeBSD MBR. fdisk -BI da0 (presuming your disk is da0 (SCSI) would be ad0 if IDE/STAT) Use bsdlabel to create a boot sector on the disk and the partitions. bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 (Initializes the slice and writes boot sector) bsdlabel -e da0s1 (Brings up edit mode to edit the partition table) Then use newfs to create filesystems on all partitions except swap. newfs /dev/da0s1a (for partition a which will be mounted as / (root) partition 'b' will be swap partition 'c' is special to describe the slice and is unused for actual partitions newfs /dev/da0s1d (for the 'd' partition - maybe /tmp) newfs /dev/da0s1e (for 'e' partition - maybe /usr) etc as needed for all partitions The above may be done by sysinstall. The rest needs to be done from fixit or a running system - i'd recommend fixit Now create mount points for each partition -- note that in the fixit disk your main/root writable filesystem that the fixit is running from is in memory and not on disk, so if you reboot before completing stuff, the mount points will disappear. mkdir /newroot for partition a which will become your root mkdir /newusr for partition e, /usr in my example etc as needed Mount the partitions mount /dev/da0s1a /newroot mount /dev/da0s1e /newusr etc as needed Now you are ready to do the restores. Still from the fixit disk cd /newroot restore -rf plus you add all your piping from the place you have the dump stored. cd /newusr restore -rf pluss all the pipings. You should now be able to reboot and run the new machine. Now, if you are not using the latest FreeBSD, I would suggest that you boot the latest (6.3) version and build the whole new system with that and instead of just restore the dumps as is, make a nice big extra partition/filesystem, restore each dump there and then pick and choose out of it what you want to add back in to the new whole system. That would mostly be just some configuration stuff in the systems areas (root and /usr) and then your user storage, maybe living in /home or whereever you had it. ////jerry > > Thanks a lot guys! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 05:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEE916A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF45013C4D1 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1561228rvb.43 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:57:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8TPVCVbsN//pn831/QkyXi+KrDWF7+HeSSONzDoytpQ=; b=va6/ZLFNzzt84vuH24jdbUbTbNdrr04KSsR19lf5A7/R4R9NB/ysJ0mEJXoO8e/7OI9odLclfUSof56hW+gEiKqCpRyjO1bOAEWq3oKcBY8xBWZRtiJByscKHWob6TbiJc0F6NSu2EQ/eE+2mQm4YaJWUdMOEOY72cKcCUIzwiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XDg9Xtp2z4Kwtj5s50fl4zM4YxZOOA0zh6JCBbKCFSs2OWW7FixYVdLQxiMG6o2qxy/QDj7OS1lRVapRwokZoEBvLqHvFlDrUYzG/IpVOoWLIOAjLyl6WDJRfRU7QnctGztEbE9oQlyF2lxJSbeygEiWiamgZ5PGKXE5e0vrMn0= Received: by 10.141.83.15 with SMTP id k15mr4461179rvl.120.1202104664381; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.141.7 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:57:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:57:44 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Christian Baer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:57:45 -0000 On 03/02/2008, Christian Baer wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:38:49 -0600 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, the best, I think. > > I take ist, you don't approve of ZFS? :-) > It is not a panacaea. The optimisation and sharing of r/w, Load balancing, And redundant data verification (to say nothing of the supposed ability to blindly stab disks into a nearly infinite array) are all features that I can see being appreciated. In a couple of processor generations. (I am talking desktop junk here) The kids running big iron will have already decided and my feeble arguments are like sand in a badger's vagina. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 06:38:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4974016A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7B513C4D5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.12.101] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m146cC3F001446 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:38:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47A6B2CE.5050004@brianwhalen.net> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:38:06 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:38:14 -0000 Has anyone tried the usb based wifi adapters, something like this http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 with freebsd? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 07:32:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBDC16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071AB13C457 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1578054rvb.43 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:32:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-pgp-fp:x-pgp:x-mailer:x-attribution:pgp:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=EqzivXNGL3BNaY5ozwhEnarOkJS/DVRSLyM0JoCGISo=; b=VbeI2sImtefEQeyFWDbr7t5auEn+aT+ENbwyDhNxmuCyzardeslKhaW2ObXv+09qRKf6oHuPklSgQZ/GMAk17muCcSiVhlvu4lGVPU5Lvo9F07J4DNND20xas2+8yN2wl8aMZTghcwQkZFAqDl66D/skbeXbruw1Q8u9CtkroOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-pgp-fp:x-pgp:x-mailer:x-attribution:pgp:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=R0LgMMcvxtXm81wml99mLGUS9tahs0oc+99O6pnYPM4To5FoXvuqi8hNtgHSK8rB0f2kbwILdSGI+PH+dQLXqpRciJtaTpZJFTP7l3uBSCYACPU08ysPrR1iP1BgWbgUiTz8FnWx23jd82JJ3JxsGiYfYGeO1LgPlOwewDxftfk= Received: by 10.141.99.4 with SMTP id b4mr4485208rvm.217.1202110365371; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from chateau.d.lf ( [122.162.55.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g39sm15844rvb.16.2008.02.03.23.32.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IA==?= =?utf-8?B?4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?=) To: swell.k@gmail.com Organization: /\/0/\/3 References: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> <86ejbtqzcy.fsf@gmail.com> X-Face: "\:nMpJ)EA!j>2nEu-[(+&o:N+CtL^AS\, Jv*LO5qBr#W2.\=d (swell k.'s message of "Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:33:49 +0300") Message-ID: <87ve55gopm.fsf@chateau.d.lf> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEVfX1/8/PwTExMDAwO0 tLSampr////f398oKCi/v78MDAwICAihq32EAAACU0lEQVQ4jW3UvWvbQBQA8LOJsJIsOajtZAtH Aqq8FLQUvNjhCex2UYpE7XYytPJalxJnFMImqrOkIJfcZtwGgrqEhELQ/XN9p+jLbc+Drfvx7r17 9jNxszXCV2mR9P3ACoKAOM5bugn1hRBRFAnxeErLMN4RIpbwYKwmZfgkMGDNol8PhlFrFDDalQcx BMMwXpwV8KElYqYzpmOA0a4UsC/EmrEU4ptGDq9kghTabP09g9EuFiSpJQOYXslgrEd6Aj8Q7pl+ kcFH3NRlUTIFfvyZwV4sEzwV20a4y2A/BWEYLxdYwk0Gn+Mohfa2X4bXsn8StC0uYdVI4T02cK0F is15ArcZYKeER5Q+f4JofZZHiPshJPt8BwtPrp4kF+KOp+sdpjvOjqpf3n+1bD6dTjk3ySKuZVU1 ezcdpm3h/pL4h9eP3Rw6R5bqa9t86a/1W3OVd7dpzgBMx8YAxVFgvgmqDTwEdQignOVgI1ggoQMA x40CFHzmCHgXcEoAig39MOSATTGt5znQL4qDIRIgNK2LAqYWAl47lBGDSgHNjoOt6vdDkNAtQc9E wN0EJgXQN7aMSABIGU7mMiI5CtQJzX9w9PwQYOApVqBwCMqwp9lmkKzh0qM5uPTAn/Vw0ogazK9m JRjR6pHqEVyqd1XbgPPfKkgAddClxRi49NmKcNMh+JV4T7mzqW1e2jwk3pAPjugGuCfHPLRIP/Qr tLEB9daW7HrvcLIx55i/9zjkfMlO//pnwLHyPcupzrL9AtxrFgTaN/dfGFcjreb+B9wmnzaKpz8p dKsBFjzeRQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksg==?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:32:46 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> swell k writes: swell> Chris Whitehouse writes: >> it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled with= a >> log file (telnetted into another machine) which is scrolled off the >> screen. How do I select all the text in one go? I only seem to be ab= le >> to select the visible screenful, copy, paste into text file, scroll >> up, select the next screenful etc. I want the screen to scroll when >> the mouse pointer hits the top or bottom of the window. >>=20 >> The best I've done so far is script - it works but it's messy. swell> 1 start selection by left mouse button swell> 2 scroll to the end of desired text swell> 3 extend selection by right mouse button swell> ? Thanks for the solution. It works for me :) =2D-=20 Ashish Shukla =E0=A4=86=E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 =E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=81=E0=A4= =95=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=B2 http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ =C2=B7-- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7--- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2= =B7- =C2=B7- =C2=B7--=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --=C2=B7 -- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-= =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-=C2=B7-=C2=B7- -=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --- -- freed.in | freedom in technology and software | 22-24 February 2008 | Delhi =C2=B7=C2=B7-=C2=B7 =C2=B7-=C2=B7 =C2=B7 =C2=B7 -=C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2= =B7-=C2=B7-=C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7 -=C2=B7 =C2=B7=C2=B7--- ----- ----- ---= =C2=B7=C2=B7 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHpr/lHy+EEHYuXnQRArWUAJwJRsosNPPtcN0zeSLmUDdtWgLUJwCfXaVu RZEthN1s/HgU+qK1nmSrbok= =25UZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 10:35:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEC416A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-29.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-29.bluehost.com [69.89.17.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3F9513C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13850 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2008 10:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 10:35:46 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JLyfy-0004Kc-7x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:35:46 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:35:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:35:45 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204103545.GD28839@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:35:47 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:41:13AM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled with a > log file (telnetted into another machine) which is scrolled off the > screen. How do I select all the text in one go? I only seem to be able > to select the visible screenful, copy, paste into text file, scroll up, > select the next screenful etc. I want the screen to scroll when the > mouse pointer hits the top or bottom of the window. > > The best I've done so far is script - it works but it's messy. Try the x11/xclip port. I use it quite a bit -- works beautifully. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Isaac Asimov: "Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 10:41:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC7416A46B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E30213C4CC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2085970fgg.35 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:41:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=DBJOPGLeQL6/B395NS44EH01pnfoXQpi4yju189Gqqo=; b=huV/ZezLB6M/e2AZhJGd3ZuFdAtSMTKCugCHroXa6quecHDQ/Nhs8nGCYXa+vc+H+efA9YqAL/DWDgSiHXEAsNoMU8f8e4dLGPS4J1i3f6Hy6950bX9zu+UbzNtGw8WDWjv6aHmxzoKbyPvZxOgf5Tuvi9eqfA1401fm/5SvLzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=x6+Fh9C8epS7gZ8vN/LsTjO67CCKK1pGaK40105ajXyUOHTOfhwMr8OGAwP0C/sgwCfbZz7hGXoGeu896AteJwUvveRZz0mmvpiK2fbKFvCpXPQdWe2a95G6+Wz4hRunXchmhEckI0ACF9AgVfPhUAZrPBEWhtTy83kZoxLRBa8= Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr12766359buc.1.1202119969435; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.119.15 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:12:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:12:49 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:41:50 -0000 Hello, I would like to expand /usr of FreeBSD 6.2. I plan to get a new HDD, format it and create slices. But how to proceed after that? Do I just mount it over the existing /usr or is there any additional steps that must be performed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 10:54:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E30116A469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60C813C457 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14AqYho001939; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:52:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14AqTVx001936; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:52:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:52:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Deian Popov In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080204114950.T1919@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:54:22 -0000 > I would like to expand /usr of FreeBSD 6.2. I plan to get a new HDD, format > it and create slices. But how to proceed after that? Do I just mount it over > the existing /usr or is there any additional steps that must be performed? it's quite difficult to understand you (at least for me). what do you mean "expand /usr". do you like to resize the partition. so resize and growfs(8) how do you "format HDD" - todays hard disk are factory formatted and can't be reformatted by user. why do you like to mount it over /usr? you may simply copy all /usr to new partition, and then unmount it and mount new partition to /usr, while reusing old partition for something else. quite difficult to answer your question... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:01:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FAD16A420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E767A13C4EE for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.10] helo=mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JLyZs-0004BO-Et for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:29:28 -0500 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JLyZs-0000um-1j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:29:28 -0500 Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lNVU1Y0010BkWne0000000; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:29:28 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: lNVU1Y0010BkWne0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JLyZr-00023H-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:29:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:30:21 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Subject: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:01:07 -0000 Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:14:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F268B16A4C2; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (ns1.violetlan.net [80.81.242.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA9813C4DD; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996B711439; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.violetlan.net (mbali.violetlan.net [10.0.100.150]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEA01142B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 217.45.165.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@violetlan.net) by www.violetlan.net with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:18:12 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <64255.217.45.165.129.1202123892.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> In-Reply-To: <47A60A10.80907@FreeBSD.org> References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> <47A60A10.80907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:18:12 -0000 (GMT) From: "Reinhold" To: "Alexander Motin" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Reinhold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:14:13 -0000 > >>> If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to specify IP >>> to let them be negotiated. >> >> How will I go ahead and set the static ips for both my wan connections? >> > > If IPs are static then provider itself will negotiate them every time > same. If you will specify them and provider will request another, > negotiation will fail. So I would not recommend you to specify them. > Hi I spoke to our ISP today. I asked them if they can set one of my ips as the main ip that will be assigned every time I dail in and they told me no they can't do it because of some security thing on there side :-S Basicaly how they explained it to me is because I have 5 ips, when we dail in we get assigned a dynamic ip and on top of that I have to manually set the 5 ips to what ever services I would like them to be used for. If I want my WAN2 connection to use one of the 5 ips I have to manually set it so that all my out going connections will be using that ip. For this reason I have changed my WAN2 settings to this in the config file. set ipcp ranges my-first-static-ip/32 isp-gateway/32 I know you said its not recommended, but I need to use this ip and my isp can't set that for me. Also once I have a use for the other ips, how can I add them? Can I create ip aliases for ng1 in the same way I will normally do by adding them to my rc.conf file? Thanks for all the help Reinhold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:23:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3A516A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B16313C467 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-52.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.52]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2651B18753D96 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:23:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id ED6CB15219; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:22:30 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:22:30 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202124150 65285 192.168.100.5 (4 Feb 2008 11:22:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:22:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:23:39 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:40:53 -0600 Matt wrote: > Is the concern with the apparent out-of-order numbering based on how > you want to access these devices in areas like fstab? No, not really. Once I set them up in the directory tree, what the drive's device name is won't make a diff to how the system works. I was more worried that maybe the device names (numbers) could change in the future and then I'd have to start wonderung about what drive is what now and where to mount what device now. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:33:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1752916A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E129B13C4EA for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m14BXNqU029487; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:33:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:33:22 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200802041133.m14BXMmW029486@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Zane C.B." Cc: Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:33:25 -0000 > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:30:21 -0600 "Zane C.B." >wrote: >Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain >sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what >the calling PID is on the other end. > >Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? Sure. Take a look at the man pages for fork(2), vfork(2), and fork(3f). > >As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. In that case, take a look at perlfork(1), too. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:38:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96F916A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-defer01.adhost.com (mail-defer01.adhost.com [216.211.128.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C678813C4CE for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in03.adhost.com (unknown [10.212.3.13]) by mail-defer01.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877EEDC4B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:20:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in03.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04905119C27 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-pgp-encoding-format: MIME x-pgp-mapi-encoding-version: 2.5.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="PGP_Universal_782B4AE0_94A28622_BA425182_06E4A2A6" x-pgp-encoding-version: 2.0.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:20:49 -0800 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D520316034129E7@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: chflag sappend /var/log/messages - syslog-ng can't rotate logs Thread-Index: AchnH/sktQaaodQfROO88JWPfwql0w== From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: Cc: Subject: chflag sappend /var/log/messages - syslog-ng can't rotate logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:38:12 -0000 --PGP_Universal_782B4AE0_94A28622_BA425182_06E4A2A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello All: I'm interested in making my messages file more likely to survive a hacking = attempt and I've set the sappend flag to that end. It would be nice if sys= log-ng could actually rotate the logfile since it gets quite large, but the= sappend flag seems to prohibit that from happening. Is there any way to m= aintain the flag and allow syslog-ng to rotate the files? Regards, Michael Smith -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GISP mksmith@adhost.com w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050 PGP: B49A DDF5 8611 27F3 08B9 84BB E61E 38C0 (Key ID: 0x9A96777D) --PGP_Universal_782B4AE0_94A28622_BA425182_06E4A2A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PGP.sig" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.7.1 (Build 1503) iQEVAwUBR6b1EfTXQhZ+XcVAAQgKIAf+NVXSKWTKxj+sU11U47gxbwXNhBUdqgOn wsc+uQ7t+7aFHM1RQzzXOGfhWanM4ZJe+P62Us2ihVK0N+J1ZrR/qw4QTTbnRRzg 7bzL+PyaoCM+3RznkytxwIDwg1Sa9GsPUnujNDrEaVGE4Etve9A21KAOZI0HmzSX CxGtpk3M3q7ib4bUeR1+xxc4TES2+9RG88uSzuAyiAaFJl+6ydsDIdhfebfWgVMW wgZsWwTVFqyYct4YfcRp30O1iQah6dlpnAOuLabCr5snXFXzAY391kAUcr+AM87q NxhqS4ylodEklvpKfwEEEQiA2irA7Ydqph0TvT/SvJkD9WDv/G2GSQ== =+6bc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PGP_Universal_782B4AE0_94A28622_BA425182_06E4A2A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:53:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F9C16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2889D13C469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-21-0.net-htp.de [89.182.21.0]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D839A44535 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:53:20 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:54:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:53:22 -0000 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 11:30:21 schrieb Zane C.B.: > Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain > sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out what > the calling PID is on the other end. > > Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? > > As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. Check out man 3 sendmsg and man 3 recvmsg (which should be wrapped in Perl in some way or another), and passing SCM_CREDS messages between the two processes. The SCM_CREDS message is filled in my the kernel, so there's no way (unless the other side is "root") to spoof the credentials information. This requires that the sending end willingly sends SCM_CREDS (and the receiver uses recvmsg to query for it), and sends at least one byte of data along with the ancilliary message. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:03:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4524D16A468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F0313C4DB for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1370032wri.3 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:03:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=x9tddckPqeobylgvb8NSgMPIU/2ySfN6gBTPPPwhTGc=; b=eScy3KUskoQxKEqOfOYKdgls4GvDLzFMJv9PnYr+Eilp6UIIESF1V5PWIbFJ7hqoZFFTPrFMb70GCh/n1a4SlUR6tmfQlE6QFdAvdoGHUNMjjYk0XATIjQKpiqxWBMwyzEes6++5amiDgJFUGE1TMf8hRQ7EUZGLVHjuNG9ErJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ooBZLd7/q8R8NfVqRNEZNADRoG3nydxFfO/UAvPBe8d9+wHdkUT2jcK4CkSKAcyqlAZZvhuhdutMAik/uatb9CS+sUZ8kUTKwfWpXFXEpUg4Eql3q+Sa/uHMSRFcda2R/RfRlA/VOeSovHTBctNoKHwZR5c+ljULw1az6fFUPxo= Received: by 10.150.198.14 with SMTP id v14mr2921751ybf.134.1202126605220; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:03:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:33:25 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:03:26 -0000 1. Is FreeBSD little Endian like windows? 2. Linux is Big endian? wrote a code int i = 1; if((i >> 1) == 0) little else big got little on all platforms bsd,linux,windows. *Does endianness depends on OS or the hardware?* ** ** *Thanks,* *navneet* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:09:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985516A421 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11913C4E7 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3245611pyb.10 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.27.16 with SMTP id e16mr4661549rvj.259.1202126947878; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.133.15 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:09:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:09:07 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:09:09 -0000 Endianness depends on the hardware. In internal kernel structures endianness does not matter, if communicating with other machines protocols (usually) define a bitorder. The c-library and/or systemlibrary contains utility functions for conversion. Regards, Wouter Oosterveld 2008/2/4, navneet Upadhyay : > 1. Is FreeBSD little Endian like windows? > > 2. Linux is Big endian? > > wrote a code int i = 1; if((i >> 1) == 0) little else big > got little on all platforms bsd,linux,windows. > > *Does endianness depends on OS or the hardware?* > ** > ** > *Thanks,* > *navneet* > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- [ wouter@berenboot.xs4all.nl is binnenkort niet meer, wouter@fizzyflux.nl is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 06:24:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E766816A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyle@moffetthome.net) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A587213C467 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyle@moffetthome.net) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3124041pyb.10 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.83.20 with SMTP id k20mr7496969pyl.7.1202104709219; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.115.9 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:58:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:58:29 -0500 From: "Kyle Moffett" To: "Jeffrey Hutzelman" In-Reply-To: <876FB8E38251C27B14CCCA29@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18CC5A4A2AC36D7FF57615EE@ganymede.hub.org> <478AF6BC.8050604@highperformance.net> <20080114142124.Y55696@fledge.watson.org> <876FB8E38251C27B14CCCA29@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:15:43 +0000 Cc: rra@stanford.edu, rees@umich.edu, "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , matt@linuxbox.com, freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, "Jason C. Wells" , port-freebsd@openafs.org, openafs-devel@openafs.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: AFS ... or equivalent ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:24:25 -0000 On Jan 16, 2008 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > The "let's just slurp everything into the main distribution so we don't > have to worry about stable interfaces" approach is really poor. It > encourages bad engineering practice among people maintaining the main > distribution, discourages innovation and extension by others, and generally > doesn't scale. It's far better to either attempt to maintain stable > external interfaces to the VFS and VM subsystems, or else admit that you > don't have the resources to do so given the relatively small number of > external users, in which case you almost certainly also don't have the > resources to keep on top of updates to something like OpenAFS. The Linux Kernel presents a very strong counter-argument-by-example. The amount of patches merged per released version has been linearly increasing over the last several years; the 2.6.23 => 2.6.24 patch was 49MB uncompressed, with a 5.7MB changelog. Of that, a significant portion were VFS changes which touched most filesystems. The various filesystem-related changes alone between 2.6.23 and 2.6.24 were 2.9MB. For reference, the *entire* OpenAFS diff between 2.4.6 and 2.5.30 is all of 8.2MB. The Linux Kernel changes include partial support for having per-process views of a single filesystem (Specifically /proc, so /proc/net can have differing contents between network namespaces). Other features which Linux supports that virtually no other OS does is multiple filesystem namespaces, where the mount-tree is selectively independent or shared between namespaces. I realize that some people are probably already aware of most of that, but I thought it should be mentioned that "slurp everything into the main distribution" actually scales very well with respect to the Linux kernel. It means that the people who are making changes (to the VFS, for example) have to go around and fix *all* the filesystems, and in addition when a bug gets fixed in one filesystem then most of the others get checked for that same bug. OpenAFS also does not benchmark very well under Linux against most of the other networked filesystems (even ones using encryption), as it does not support the fine-grained locking that Linux does. Unfortunately it isn't practical for Linux to reuse existing OpenAFS code as the licenses are partially incompatible. > In the long run, I'm guessing that the OpenAFS cache manager evolves more > quickly than FreeBSD's VFS interface, which makes pulling the CM into the > kernel tree a losing battle. If you disagree, by all means fork that part > of AFS (or get someone else to do so) and see what happens (AFS's > user/kernel and RPC interfaces are both fairly stable, so forking just the > kernel parts should be mostly feasible). As it so happens this is exactly what is happening right now in the Linux Kernel. David Howells (original author of the Linux "keyring" subsystem) has been writing a generic userspace+kernelspace FS-Cache system which can use either a block device or a mounted filesystem as storage. It presently supports NFS and the minimal in-kernel AFS client and is planned to be mostly merged into 2.6.25. The benefits of being able to share innovations in caching between AFS, NFS, and other networked filesystems is quite significant. My apologies for anything in this email that may be construed as offensive; the intent is as an honest technical discussion of development methods and practices. Cheers, Kyle Moffett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:15:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC1B16A469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2F113C52B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-52.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.52]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD9118751D24 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:15:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 95D5315219; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:14:48 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:14:48 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 136 Message-ID: References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202127288 65285 192.168.100.5 (4 Feb 2008 12:14:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:14:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:15:58 -0000 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:12 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > that's like 64-bit soundcards that have to be "better" than 32-bit, while > most of them was unable to actually get past 13-14 bit (most past 12) with > it's signal to noise ratio. Maybe that's not quite the same thing. :-) However. Even a 64bit filesystem still has gigantic reserves of space and although filling that may not cause the oceans to boil, any storage device that can actually sore all the date that a 64bit fs can allocate will be "pretty big" in terms of volume and mass and will also use a good deal of energy - even if this is calculated in the same minimalistic way as for ZFS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Capacity Now I am not sure if the world actually needs a file system that can never be filled - with the limits not made by any feable estimates like we thought we'd never get a 1GB drive full, but by quantum physics. But the fact that it's maximum theoretical size has "a few reserves" isn't a problem in itself. I have serious doubts that the computers of today are ready for the overhead at all and the overhead is worth the bother. > 1) you make create 1000 of "filesystems" without partitioning. so lots of > "admins" that think more partitions=better are happy. you may set quota > for each "filesystem" Well, actually I am an admin who believes this within limits. I have seperate file systems for /, /usr, /var, /tmp, /home and /usr/obj. The reasons for this are numerous. I have /usr/obj on a different drive than /usr to spread the load while making worlds and I mount /usr/obj asynchronously to increase write speed. With several filesystems I can spread to load the way I want it and decide where the data goes. And one broken fs doesn't screw up the others in the process. I do know the drawbacks of this: Storage is pretty static. Correcting wrong estimates about the needed fs-sizes is a big problem. That is why I keep /usr/home on one big fs. If the users require (for example) 20MB each, then it doesn't matter if one user needs 25MB, as long as 5 others only use 24. If ZFS gives us the best of both worlds, that would actually be an improvement. > 2) it takes many drives to the pool and you may add then new drives. > same as gconcat+growfs. I read about this. However, I didn't find anything conclusive as to how well the drives can still live on their own if they are ever seperated. Now I don't think they will be addressed as a RAID0 with all the risks of that. But what happens if one of four drives breaks down? Does it make a difference, if the broken drive is the first one, the last one or a middle one? > 3) it doesn't have per user quota, which creates a problem that is > "solved" by 1), and you have to create at least one filesystem/user, which > then is said to relieve admininstrator from work ;) This doesn't have to be a problem either. Quota are used instead of partitions to tackle two problems: The number of partitions is very limited and resizing a partition is a major issue. By changing the quota you can give one user (or one service) more room and take it away from some of the others that seem to need less than was anticipated. If each user or service can be confined to it's own fs, that would also be good. A newsserver runnung with tradspool needs lots of inodes, most other applications far less. I do see a drawback though: If you change the size of the filesystems a few times, you could wind up with a new sort of fragmentation. New because this sort (a filesystem that is patched together over a drive) hasn't really been encountered yet and it will be very interesting to see what effects this may have. > 4) ZFS says that hardware checksums are not enough and disk hardware may > be buggy so then "solve" this problem checking everything with CPU. This also creates a lot of overhead and CPU load. I tried this with GELI on a fs that needed to be intact in a paranoid sense - I get like that sometimes. :-) I did it once and once only. The performance was just not good enough. Granted, I didn't do this on a really new computer but I'm not likely to through away all my old ones either, just so my paranoia can be met with a good speed. :-) > while i've had failing drives many times i never seen it reading bad data > and not reporting error. Same here. Since I use HDs on my computers, I have had about 20 to 25 drives break down over the years. Ok, I used many of the drives long after other people took similar drives out of their machines and used them as door stops. Basicly, I made these drives work until they dropped dead. :-) None of these drives *ever* gave strange data back. The only time I had that was when the driver for a controller was broken and that issue was there right from the beginning. > 5) you don't have to wait for fsck. one of the few real adventages. > Anyway - FreeBSD doesn't crash like windoze, so it's not that big thing. Wrong! Crashed accure and they do that quite frequently. Even if FreeBSD is stable in itself, a blackout, an idiot user or broken hardware can cause a system to crash. I had a S-ATA cable in one of my machines that wasn't too tight. The light vibrations of the drive caused it to disconnect after a while. You couldn't see and difference, you couldn't feel any either and it took me a long time to figure out what the problem was. The cable wasn't all that loose that it felt funny. The computer crashed several times before I changed the cable. I was quite glad that FreeBSD always managed to recover from that without any problems. > 7) there is no per file encryption, while it's said it will be SOON ready. I don't really see that to be the file system's job anyway. > 8) ZFS is clear winner on artifical tests like creating miliion of small > files and then deleting them etc.. The key word being "artificial". > 9) ZFS is very fast, just add more RAM and faster CPU. Isn't everything? :-) > there was a lot of excitement here after ZFS was ported, but i think it's > time too see that 20 (or more?) year old UFS is still a winner. I intend to stick with UFS for a fair while yet. I does it's job and that's what I want it to do. > i think some changes in UFS, like larger cylinder groups (so there won't > be 10000 of then on big filesystem), possibly dynamic allocation of > inodes, would be good. but not critical :) There is always something to improve. I personally would like more flexible rights, so I can decide who gets what (sort of) access to a file or directory in more detail. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:18:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F416A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D807813C502 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JM0H9-0006ur-IH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:18:15 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:18:15 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:18:15 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:11:17 +0100 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig80134A92C41776256D2B751A" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:18:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig80134A92C41776256D2B751A navneet Upadhyay wrote: > 1. Is FreeBSD little Endian like windows? >=20 > 2. Linux is Big endian? >=20 > wrote a code int i =3D 1; if((i >> 1) =3D=3D 0) little else big > got little on all platforms bsd,linux,windows. >=20 > *Does endianness depends on OS or the hardware?* It depends on the hardware. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianess --------------enig80134A92C41776256D2B751A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHpwLBldnAQVacBcgRAre7AJsG/3ejoE7H6q3m5NC9MPHe8lYqngCeLO0S lYzs2I4ywDIGhx2zQwrVuWE= =7bcz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig80134A92C41776256D2B751A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:18:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5516A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CDB13C502 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-21-0.net-htp.de [89.182.21.0]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A360A44538 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:18:51 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:20:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:18:52 -0000 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 13:03:25 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > 1. Is FreeBSD little Endian like windows? FreeBSD endianness depends on the hardware architecture it runs on (as endianness is a hardware characterization). (Very) generally, anything that's related to an Intel CPU is little-endian, whereas anything that's related to a Motorola, IBM or Sparc CPU is big-endian. (Modern) Windows exists only on little-endian hardware [Intel, AMD and clones] (AFAIK, someone correct me here), so basically it's always little-endian, you could say that. There were Windows versions for other CPUs, though, back in the Windows NT days, which ran on Alpha workstations which were big-endian. > 2. Linux is Big endian? Same as for FreeBSD. > wrote a code int i = 1; if((i >> 1) == 0) little else big > got little on all platforms bsd,linux,windows. This won't tell you what endianness the platform has. It'll say "little" for any architecture (because ( 1 >> 1 ) == 0 for any CPU that knows how to do binary shifts). What you can use to test for little or big-endianness, is something like the following: unsigned long test = 0x12345678; char* ptest = (char*)&test; if( *ptest == 0x78 ) else if( *ptest == 0x12 ) else > *Does endianness depends on OS or the hardware?* As I said above: it depends on the hardware. There is even hardware (ARM, in particular) which can run in little- or big-endian mode, depending on how it is initialized. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:20:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804A716A47C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9F213C505 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1624271rvb.43 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.211.13 with SMTP id n13mr4690288rvq.12.1202126147460; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.133.15 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 03:55:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:55:47 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: sendmail should not bind to loopback only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:20:56 -0000 Hello, I'm experiencing a weird problem with sendmail on a FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE machine (Dell PE2950 AMD64). Sendmail seems to only bind to the loopback device while not explicitly configured. I copied the config from an 5.3-RELEASE-p9 machine. I ofcourse checked the change log of sendmail, /usr/src/UPDATING, the batbook and google. Does anyone have an idea what is causing this? Thanks in advance, Wouter Oosterveld sockstat: (12:46:38)[root@canoe] ~ # sockstat -4l USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS (...) root sendmail 1205 4 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* (...) config sendmail.mc: VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.30.2.4 2007/11/22 16:20:01 gshapiro Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd6) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(`greet_pause',700) FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') dnl INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, F=, T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m') dnl define(`confMILTER_MACROS_CONNECT',`b, j, _, {daemon_name}, {if_name}, {if_addr}')dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl FEATURE(`dnsbl',`zen.spamhaus.org')dnl FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend')dnl define(`confME_TOO', `false')dnl define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA') define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) grep -i 'o daemon' /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: O DaemonPortOptions=Name=IPv4, Family=inet O DaemonPortOptions=Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O O DaemonPortOptions=Port=587, Name=MSA, M=E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:30:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE55E16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EA413C43E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m14CUGCB034700 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:30:30 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m14CUGCB034700 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47A70558.1040500@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:30:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wouter Oosterveld References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:30:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5678/Mon Feb 4 01:15:53 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail should not bind to loopback only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:30:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Wouter Oosterveld wrote: > Hello, > > I'm experiencing a weird problem with sendmail on a FreeBSD > 6.3-RELEASE machine (Dell PE2950 AMD64). Sendmail seems to only bind > to the loopback device while not explicitly configured. I copied the > config from an 5.3-RELEASE-p9 machine. Change sendmail_enable="NO" to sendmail_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHpwVY3jDkPpsZ+VYRA0mlAJ9qjVQtQuril9YkEM6qPvs3Lxmz5wCgsC0E j282KOlpThsTCc9zxQSp8eY= =w+J0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:34:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589FC16A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBE613C459 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14CWlZW007855; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:32:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14CWiUj007852; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:32:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:32:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080204133235.C7781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:34:30 -0000 > 1. Is FreeBSD little Endian like windows? > > 2. Linux is Big endian? > > wrote a code int i = 1; if((i >> 1) == 0) little else big > got little on all platforms bsd,linux,windows. > > *Does endianness depends on OS or the hardware?* on hardware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:41:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213116A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABE213C468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14CdvGl007862; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:39:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14Cdqek007859; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:39:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:39:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christian Baer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080204133351.P7781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:41:43 -0000 > /usr to spread the load while making worlds and I mount /usr/obj > asynchronously to increase write speed. With several filesystems I can > spread to load the way I want it and decide where the data goes. And one > broken fs doesn't screw up the others in the process. did you ever got your UFS filesystem broken not because your drive failed? i don't. UFS it's not FAT, and doesn't break up. > > I do know the drawbacks of this: Storage is pretty static. Correcting > wrong estimates about the needed fs-sizes is a big problem. That is why I you CAN't estimate well how much space you need in longer term. in practice partitioning like yours means at least 100% more disk space requirements. of course - there are often cases today that whole system needs few gigs, but smallest new drive is 80GB - it will work.. still - making all in / is much easier and works fine. making all in / and /lessused, where / is at first part on disk, and /lessused on second - make big performance improvements (shorter seeks!). >> 2) it takes many drives to the pool and you may add then new drives. >> same as gconcat+growfs. > > I read about this. However, I didn't find anything conclusive as to how > well the drives can still live on their own if they are ever seperated. > Now I don't think they will be addressed as a RAID0 with all the risks of > that. But what happens if one of four drives breaks down? Does it make a > difference, if the broken drive is the first one, the last one or a middle > one? if it's just concat, you will loose lots of data, just like any other filesystem. with concat+mirror - you replace single drive that failed and rebuild mirror. that's all. after reading your answer on 3-rd question i will end the topic, because you understand quota as workaround of problems creating 1000 partitions. or simply - looks like you don't understand it at all, because it is not workaround. it's excellent tool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 12:50:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AC316A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886A13C45B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 24028 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 06:22:15 -0600 Received: from 124-170-137-61.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.137.61) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 06:22:09 -0600 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:21:53 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204232153.4818f2cb@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <47A6B2CE.5050004@brianwhalen.net> References: <47A6B2CE.5050004@brianwhalen.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:50:22 -0000 On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:38:06 -0800 Brian wrote: > Has anyone tried the usb based wifi adapters, something like this > http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 > with freebsd? hey, i've used some with the ural chipset, and I think a Netgear GA-11 (from memory, sorry). both worked ok. no idea bout the belkin - best bet is to try to find out its chipset and check the manpages... good luck, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Commitment is active, not passive. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:07:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A0716A476 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212AB13C4DD for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.3] helo=mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM12p-0001EP-6A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:07:31 -0500 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM12p-0000ZQ-1D; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:07:31 -0500 Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lR7W1Y0030BkWne0000000; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:07:30 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: lR7W1Y0030BkWne0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JM12o-0007H2-Gg; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:07:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:08:24 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: Scott Bennett Message-ID: <20080204070824.341a1bae@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <200802041133.m14BXMmW029486@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200802041133.m14BXMmW029486@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:07:34 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:33:22 -0600 (CST) Scott Bennett wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:30:21 -0600 "Zane C.B." > > > >wrote: > >Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix domain > >sockets, but I've been running into the problem of figuring out > >what the calling PID is on the other end. > > > >Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? > > Sure. Take a look at the man pages for fork(2), vfork(2), and > fork(3f). > > > >As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. > > In that case, take a look at perlfork(1), too. I am a bit lost on what fork has to do with the question. Currently have found there is no method for figuring what PID it is. I've found there is support for figuring out what user it is, according to unix(4), but there appears to way to get to using any of the existing perl modules for unix domain sockets. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:12:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934EA16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531F313C44B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3268933pyb.10 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr4705390rvd.206.1202130720850; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.133.15 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 05:12:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:12:00 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47A70558.1040500@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47A70558.1040500@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: sendmail should not bind to loopback only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:12:02 -0000 Thank you! That fixed it. --- I can't find this in the FreeBSD handbook (not in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html anyway). Would that be a documentation bug? If not, which piece of documentation should I have read? Regards, Wouter 2008/2/4, Matthew Seaman : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > Wouter Oosterveld wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm experiencing a weird problem with sendmail on a FreeBSD > > 6.3-RELEASE machine (Dell PE2950 AMD64). Sendmail seems to only bind > > to the loopback device while not explicitly configured. I copied the > > config from an 5.3-RELEASE-p9 machine. > > Change > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > to > > sendmail_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 > 7 Priory Courtyard > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW, UK > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHpwVY3jDkPpsZ+VYRA0mlAJ9qjVQtQuril9YkEM6qPvs3Lxmz5wCgsC0E > j282KOlpThsTCc9zxQSp8eY= > =w+J0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- [ wouter@berenboot.xs4all.nl is binnenkort niet meer, wouter@fizzyflux.nl is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:31:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACC116A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E78C13C469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 24103 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 13:31:17 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 24088, pid: 24099, t: 0.1574s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:5373 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2008 13:31:17 -0000 Message-ID: <47A7139D.4050109@pixelhammer.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:31:09 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <47A54DDE.3010400@pixelhammer.com> <20080203004205.M24186@shell.xecu.net> <47A5E6A7.2030208@pixelhammer.com> <47A5EB00.3020704@foster.cc> <47A5FE0F.3090106@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <47A5FE0F.3090106@pixelhammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Silly Bind question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:31:18 -0000 DAve wrote: > Mark D. Foster wrote: >> Andy was right, it's the line-ordering in your zone file. >> I take it you can't slave the zone from tinydns to bind? >> > > Arrrg! I tried moving the txt record but no change. I can put the recs > in any order I want as the script that generates my Bind Zones pulls > them from SQL, so arranging the keys to write out TXT in any place > within the zone is easy enough to do. But I didn't see a difference before. > > I'll relook at what I did. This should not be that difficult, online > docs show text examples with no mention of where in the zone they need > to be. I would ahve thought that it A) didn't matter, or B) an origin > line prior to the TXT line, or B) a full domain name in the text-name > field would be able to over ride the previous host name. > > IOW, > > host IN A xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > domain. IN TXT "something" > > I would have though that a full origin name as the left value on the TXT > line would override the previous host value. But that does not seem to > be so. I still think I've done something wrong here. > > DAve Ha ha, I am kicking myself. Just a reminder that even the most complicated problems can sometimes be simple. This DNS server I was testing from was a replacement box, temporary install until the Bind servers were removed. Once I put the correct values in /etc/resolve.conf everything worked as expected. I was manually editing the zone on one machine but querying another. I figured it out when the serial number shown in the query response differed from the serial number the log file showed was being reloaded. I appreciate the help. DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E60916A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E1C13C4CC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14DUEXv008017; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:30:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14DUC0Z008014; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:30:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:30:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" In-Reply-To: <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> Message-ID: <20080204142943.U8012@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:32:39 -0000 > the Windows NT days, which ran on Alpha workstations which were big-endian. Alpha is little endian. i had alpha 21066 running linux. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:35:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEF416A481 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFCD13C4E5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-21-0.net-htp.de [89.182.21.0]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C44A44538 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:35:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:36:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204142943.U8012@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080204142943.U8012@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041436.52389.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:35:30 -0000 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 14:30:12 schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > > the Windows NT days, which ran on Alpha workstations which were > > big-endian. > > Alpha is little endian. i had alpha 21066 running linux. Not true. Alpha is big- or little-endian (so, it's bi-endian), depending on how it's booted, and IIRC the Windows NT version running on Alpha used the big-endian mode of the CPU. But I might be mistaken. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 13:40:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4028916A468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enno@bashful.metva.com.au) Received: from bashful.metva.com.au (bashful.metva.com.au [202.0.82.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FA713C4F4 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enno@bashful.metva.com.au) Received: from bashful.metva.com.au (localhost.metva.com [127.0.0.1]) by bashful.metva.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E9533C1A; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:40:50 +1100 (EST) Received: (from enno@localhost) by bashful.metva.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m14DeoqS032917; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:40:50 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from enno) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:40:50 +1100 From: Enno Davids To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Message-ID: <20080204134050.GB1128@bashful.metva.com.au> References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:40:58 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 01:20:14PM +0100, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: | |As I said above: it depends on the hardware. There is even hardware (ARM, in |particular) which can run in little- or big-endian mode, depending on how it |is initialized. If I recall correctly some of the MIPS chips had/ve an endian selector bit on each page table entry in the MMU. The idea was to map each of the I/O devices through the MMU and let that bit help in talking to the hardware (i.e. Intel peripherals expecting little endian and motorola chips wanting the opposite.) E. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 14:21:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3D616A468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout10.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout10.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B8113C459 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.3] helo=mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM2Bv-0007hA-Q8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:20:59 -0500 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM2Bv-0002sL-6r; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:20:59 -0500 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lSLz1Y0040ASqTN0000000; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:20:59 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: lSLz1Y0040ASqTN0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JM2Bu-0006Eb-LK; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:20:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:21:52 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Message-ID: <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:21:02 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:54:44 +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 11:30:21 schrieb Zane C.B.: > > Been starting to look into writing some stuff that uses unix > > domain sockets, but I've been running into the problem of > > figuring out what the calling PID is on the other end. > > > > Any suggestions on where I should begin to look? > > > > As it currently stands, I am looking at doing this with perl. > > Check out man 3 sendmsg and man 3 recvmsg (which should be wrapped > in Perl in some way or another), and passing SCM_CREDS messages > between the two processes. The SCM_CREDS message is filled in my > the kernel, so there's no way (unless the other side is "root") to > spoof the credentials information. > > This requires that the sending end willingly sends SCM_CREDS (and > the receiver uses recvmsg to query for it), and sends at least one > byte of data along with the ancilliary message. I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for that on both ends. More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 14:35:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C64416A50F for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5D313C4D9 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-21-0.net-htp.de [89.182.21.0]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BA9A4453D for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:35:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:35:09 -0000 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: > I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support for > it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support for > that on both ends. > > More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info about > the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with out writing > some sort of authentication system for the two to use or both ends > have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least part of) what you're looking for: http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux (which is a loooong time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the referenced page above which shows you how to set up the corresponding recvmsg call. Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 14:44:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F402416A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE6F13C455 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-52.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.52]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D018F1802D76E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:44:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 2873615219; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:43:35 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:43:35 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 114 Message-ID: References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080204133351.P7781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202136215 65285 192.168.100.5 (4 Feb 2008 14:43:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:43:35 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:44:46 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:39:52 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > did you ever got your UFS filesystem broken not because your drive failed? That is not the point here. I have been using FreeBSD sind version 3.3, which was released in 1999. Before that I used Linux. So I can't even look back on 10 years of FreeBSD yet and I don't have that many drives I have to worry about. So the fact if one of my files systems ever broke isn't really representative. To answer the question: Yes, it did happen and not only once. This was in the time when I was setting up a new computer with 6.0-RELEASE and a new S-ATA controller. There was a bug in the driver which the developer managed to fix after we exhanged a few eMails. Before the error was fixed, my machine crashed several times with a kernel panic. There were something like two dozen crashes in that time. Twice the filesystem could be salvaged by fsck, but the data on it was pretty messed up. I don't know how that happened and frankly, I don't care either. The rest of the times, fsck did get the fs into normal working order again whith just the file broken that was last being written. Since the boot drive wasn't connected to the new controller and I was using this machine as a plattform to debug the driver, no real damage was caused. > i don't. UFS it's not FAT, and doesn't break up. That's ok to believe if you want to. UFS is designed to minimize errors. There is no guarantee that there will be none. > you CAN't estimate well how much space you need in longer term. > in practice partitioning like yours means at least 100% more disk space > requirements. I wouldn't be that pessemistic. True, you can't be sure you allocated enough space to X, so you leave a safety margine. But the fact that the HDD doesn't grow limits your space anyway. I am not denying that you might waste space this way but it's still nothing I'd lose any sleep over. > of course - there are often cases today that whole system needs few gigs, > but smallest new drive is 80GB - it will work.. I work with lots of drives that are a lot smaller than that. And the systems still work. :-) > still - making all in / is much easier and works fine. Maybe I'm just too conservative for that. Mind you, I don't break up all drives by default. I have some 500GB drives that have only one large partition. This partition is for data (which means everything but system stuff). All I break up into pieces are the default system areas. > making all in / and /lessused, where / is at first part on disk, and > /lessused on second - make big performance improvements (shorter seeks!). There are about 10 things I can think of that I'd do before I tried something like that. I'm a little surprised about a suggestion like this coming from you because you seem to be a great advocacy of dynamic systems. And here you have to decides what is used often and what not. This is an estimate that you could also mess up - I'm sure I probably would. :-) And chaninge a file from the seldom to the often area isn't that trivial either. I increase performance by mounting /tmp and /usr/obj async and I mount systems I want to work fast with noatime. But ok, noone will judge either of us for working with our systems the way we please. :-) Anyone with Unix knowledge will find his way around my boxes and the same should be true for you. The rest are just details. :-) >> I read about this. However, I didn't find anything conclusive as to how >> well the drives can still live on their own if they are ever seperated. >> Now I don't think they will be addressed as a RAID0 with all the risks of >> that. But what happens if one of four drives breaks down? Does it make a >> difference, if the broken drive is the first one, the last one or a middle >> one? > > if it's just concat, you will loose lots of data, just like any other > filesystem. > with concat+mirror - you replace single drive that failed and rebuild > mirror. that's all. Which doesn't really address the issue of what happens if a drive that is part of a big ZFS is removed (because it's broken). > after reading your answer on 3-rd question i will end the topic, because > you understand quota as workaround of problems creating 1000 partitions. > or simply - looks like you don't understand it at all, because it is not > workaround. it's excellent tool. Maybe you just don't understand my English? :-) I understand quota very well and also what it can do. It is a very useful tool but it is not the holy grail. I actually use both block and file quote on some of the systems I have to watch. And I use both hard and soft at that. Quota does eliminate the need to create one partition for each home directory, even if you think it is not meant for that. And actually, it is used a lot for just that purpose. ISPs with shared hosting products usually don't allow direct write access outside the users ~ anyway. So the quota just stops him from uploading to much. But I know quota is also very useful in "mixed enviroments" where several users have access to a directory or a directory structure and you want to stop one user from filling up everything with his stuff. So even if quota is a pretty simple tool (as it's only purpose is to limit the resources a user can use), its field of application is large. Quota does not address the different needs of certain applications. With quota you can limit the amount of inodes a user may grab but you cannot create areas with more inodes and others with less. Quota solves many problems and is a great tool, no doubt in that, but it doesn't make your computer fast, you less thirsty and it doesn't improve your sexlife either - at least that didn't happen here. :-) Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:21:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E3D16A475 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4D913C4F5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14FK8FW008357 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:20:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14FK6mc008354 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:20:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:20:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204161647.V8347@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: bash bug - or what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:21:55 -0000 look at this $SORT is sort -S 512m $tmp2 is input filename (being 2GB size), $tmp3 is output this fragment tries (with success) to randomize lines from $tmp2 and write it to $tmp3 while read ll;do echo $RANDOM $RANDOM $ll done <$tmp2 | $SORT |cut -f 3- -d " " >$tmp3 this works but why bash sucks VM space? 69274 test 1 -8 0 1862M 98008K pipewr 1 8:17 40.28% bash this 1862 is growing until it finishes, resident size is 100M because it gets swapped out. it looks like echo'ed data is kept in bash memory what's wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:24:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992F16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B12113C4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14FM0bC008409; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:22:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14FLxUj008406; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:22:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:21:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" In-Reply-To: <200802041436.52389.wundram@beenic.net> Message-ID: <20080204162108.I8365@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204142943.U8012@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802041436.52389.wundram@beenic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:24:18 -0000 > > Not true. Alpha is big- or little-endian (so, it's bi-endian), depending on > how it's booted, and IIRC the Windows NT version running on Alpha used the > big-endian mode of the CPU. But I might be mistaken. i had SRM console used netbsd too later, too little endian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:40:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0082716A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7E213C478 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14Fcf4G008429; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:38:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14FcdVV008426; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:38:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:38:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christian Baer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080204162233.M8365@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080204133351.P7781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:40:39 -0000 >> did you ever got your UFS filesystem broken not because your drive failed? > > That is not the point here. I have been using FreeBSD sind version 3.3, > which was released in 1999. Before that I used Linux. So I can't even look while i was using linux - crashed filesystem was quite common without any disk failure. that's one of the reason i started using *BSD, another was performance. > To answer the question: Yes, it did happen and not only once. This was in > the time when I was setting up a new computer with 6.0-RELEASE and a new > S-ATA controller. There was a bug in the driver which the developer > managed to fix after we exhanged a few eMails. Before the error was fixed, > my machine crashed several times with a kernel panic. There were something of course - with buggy driver it may be big problems. > connected to the new controller and I was using this machine as a > plattform to debug the driver, no real damage was caused. you of course will not use new/untested hardware/software combination for production machine? me too, so what a problem? > That's ok to believe if you want to. UFS is designed to minimize errors. > There is no guarantee that there will be none. there is never guarantee. if ZFS will calculate block checksum from memory and miscalculate it because of hardware/software problem, it will write it, and then write good data to say 2 disks. then it will take data from both disk and report uncorrectable error - without any error at all. just an example. there is no "ultimate" solution. > systems still work. :-) my works too with one partition. so what a problem - except i had less work? > >> still - making all in / is much easier and works fine. > > Maybe I'm just too conservative for that. in EVERY unix book it's repeated countless times that partitioning is good, and make it more secure, more prone to errors etc. it was - on original unix FS, but not on UFS, which automatically "partitions" your drive to cylinder groups. >> making all in / and /lessused, where / is at first part on disk, and >> /lessused on second - make big performance improvements (shorter seeks!). > > There are about 10 things I can think of that I'd do before I tried > something like that. I'm a little surprised about a suggestion like this > coming from you because you seem to be a great advocacy of dynamic what you mean "dynamic system"? > systems. And here you have to decides what is used often and what not. > This is an estimate that you could also mess up - I'm sure I probably > would. :-) And chaninge a file from the seldom to the often area isn't > that trivial either. i prefer / for everything. but sometimes i need this to speed things up, and definitely need it when using gmirror - to not waste lot of space by mirroring everything. i just mirror what's have to be mirrored. > But ok, noone will judge either of us for working with our systems the way > we please. :-) Anyone with Unix knowledge will find his way around my > boxes and the same should be true for you. The rest are just details. :-) yes - but it's bad repeating "truth"s because it's said. ZFS advocacy first creates problems then solving it. i STRONGLY state most of these problems are artifical for most administrators and users. so ZFS may be useful for someone, but for most of as it's just waste of CPU and memory and... ours time (contrary to what ZFS stated - saving ours time). >> mirror. that's all. > > Which doesn't really address the issue of what happens if a drive that is > part of a big ZFS is removed (because it's broken). it will say "read error" on all files and directories that happened to be placed on that disk! >> you understand quota as workaround of problems creating 1000 partitions. >> or simply - looks like you don't understand it at all, because it is not >> workaround. it's excellent tool. > > Maybe you just don't understand my English? :-) maybe..but you stated that quota is needed because partitions can't me easily created by mass. and that's exactly wrong. > Quota does not address the different needs of certain applications. With > quota you can limit the amount of inodes a user may grab but you cannot > create areas with more inodes and others with less. Quota solves many in most cases average inode count is important with a bit excess. with rare cases really lots of files planned in some directory (like my squid spools) i make separate partitions. having this spools on separate partitions i can greatly reduce seeking as it's all in narrow part of disk plate. with ZFS it's no problem to have lots of small files, but they will be mixed up with other - without any control of placement. actually - i think it could be done automatically quite good, like few other things. maybe (i'm too lazy) i will write UFS3 ;) - but for sure it will be UFS-style filesystem, with some improvements. there is no need to revolution > problems and is a great tool, no doubt in that, but it doesn't make your > computer fast, you less thirsty and it doesn't improve your sexlife either - > at least that didn't happen here. :-) i think windows vista may be better in it :). but not for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:47:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A412A16A4E2 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6959113C4DD for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14FjhQ6008519; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:45:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14FjdMc008516; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:45:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:45:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: h p In-Reply-To: <47A72F3B.7030902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080204164507.G8436@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204161647.V8347@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A72F3B.7030902@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash bug - or what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:47:32 -0000 >> it looks like echo'ed data is kept in bash memory > I think that's the way it should be, because sort needs the whole output of > the loop before it can begin sorting. > > i mean BASH takes memory, not sort. sort take 512MB RAM +temp files as i wanted through -S 512m From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:54:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6586116A474 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from regnans@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E406013C4E8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from regnans@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2137614fgg.35 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:54:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mS62QtUwqkXh9qBAcFeRfw/azxtTf2AUP6h73Pg04Ls=; b=AlPzfwH6iFlFuO5db3uW81F7qno8Oer3/Y4SbFoY2oOZSjchWwn2CSDQZtlWfboaPjUyKhxIxU3htHt+OZTgwa+l/n9Xub16eVIvpCjpAngBBJjxqcQKGS5y4L2WaT1pBh0dz9D/brV8frGa4ZnL/fAB/ael+6swMrMuS1Iu9L4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YksuxM/0FINsEbO6vfdSJ9rwq0+GKQt368w2V5tykF5W7Z+GHPLC0UGzhQpQgIX8lozhmaCbxWk2BweJ1xaqpCAFQ+sLFcXRQYD58Kb7cma+9Lz/aaP3AA5fwp5utKgGJzsultszltPnURdSYwUGIIX1o7itX1pVePk0Nt8zewU= Received: by 10.86.90.2 with SMTP id n2mr6700675fgb.66.1202138952204; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.40? ( [212.168.164.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm7688888fga.2.2008.02.04.07.29.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47A72F3B.7030902@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:28:59 +0100 From: h p User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080204161647.V8347@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080204161647.V8347@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash bug - or what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:54:59 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > look at this > > $SORT is sort -S 512m > > $tmp2 is input filename (being 2GB size), $tmp3 is output > > this fragment tries (with success) to randomize lines from $tmp2 and > write it to $tmp3 > > while read ll;do > echo $RANDOM $RANDOM $ll > done <$tmp2 | $SORT |cut -f 3- -d " " >$tmp3 > > > > this works but why bash sucks VM space? > > 69274 test 1 -8 0 1862M 98008K pipewr 1 8:17 > 40.28% bash > > > this 1862 is growing until it finishes, resident size is 100M because > it gets swapped out. > > > it looks like echo'ed data is kept in bash memory I think that's the way it should be, because sort needs the whole output of the loop before it can begin sorting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A2016A477 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3EF13C46B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (sub87-230-112-52.he-dsl.de [87.230.112.52]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35311872DC6B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:55:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 69EEB15219; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:54:43 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:54:43 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 33 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1202140483 65285 192.168.100.5 (4 Feb 2008 15:54:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:54:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.3-STABLE (sparc64)) Subject: Suggestion for a file manager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:55:54 -0000 Good afternoon, everybody! I'm looking for a suggestion for a file manager. Something like the Total Commander known from Windows. I know the mc and I already use it. But it has a few functions I miss. Most importantly being able to create queues. I have a lot of work to do that looks like this: move a to A copy b to A move c to B ... Where small letters are directories or files and capital letters represent drives, mount points or other destinations. The idea is to be able to list all the things that have to be copied or moved at once and then to let the computer do its work while I am not around. Some of these tasks can take a while and I don't really like hanging around and waiting for one to finish so I can start the next. One solution (well, not really) would be to start multiple instances and start all the processes at once. This would be ok if all the work were done on seperate drives. But two copy instances from one HDD makes the whole thing a lot slower than if I just did the copying sequentially because of the increased head movement. One other thing I would really like is if this file manager didn't need X but runs on the console as the mc does. Can someone give me a suggestion? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 15:57:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DD516A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: from mail1.ariel.ru (mail1.ariel.ru [85.21.118.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BCE13C46E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 7356F9B89A; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:58:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [192.168.0.109] (lescomp.ariel.loc [192.168.0.109]) by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB1D9B869 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:58:16 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <47A732BC.2090204@ariel.ru> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:43:56 +0300 From: Leonid Satanovsky User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SATA raid controller on Asustek's P5M2-M X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:57:15 -0000 Hello, people! Does anybody know whether the SATA raid controller on Asustek's P5M2-M motherboard is supported by FreeBSD 6.3 ... or 7.0? ------------------------------ We are choosing a motherboard for a low-end mail server (this is a small company with lots of mail,... and the host will also serve as Internet gateway... that's the strange configuration -) ) ) ------------------------------ Thanks in advance! Best regards, --les From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 16:23:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0F16A420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E9E13C4D3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1488962wri.3 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gYZW9RQVsgnLTI4EmA9Lp9qFPDSPeoX1KcOR8nGMo4E=; b=rsEYO6NXjv4Fxhlomkxu481eRqtZ9wJfFwiTQ3rOiLoFkXuaPvsUIeAw0KJeNwDwS0vdS+/XzCXPhv4XuJQ63OwC9zGLvL7gNtPOElgv5d5NLRCl0bj3MLcFzGwU6/nLf9BoQRquRdb7F/noLtbK3Mmxwt3/Pof1Dp41Hrfdiks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cEGMV+JdvLj8w0WhdlgtMr2rlPhmYJ+o/hV1lwvxXiYr7PBvGQ/W1QyQJNLexgQwMYZwDQKXoqZFmNK2bfHJJc8uJKvXJRj4ChKcRmq/2di1qlguPp0v0wW4RSahs/kHQi441XRDvOGcG6mu7NVTNAX3PjyVf5xYjKzaUIo4xjc= Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr977907wao.27.1202140580124; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.144.13 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:56:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87f7f4170802040756u32ad491btdc1e1add12fb1d1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:56:20 -0500 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: Rob In-Reply-To: <47A71534.4020703@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <214080.29632.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <87f7f4170802022324ma92af72p5a48b605ff3cda5f@mail.gmail.com> <47A71534.4020703@gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behind a router X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:23:06 -0000 My apologies to you and the list. thanks, jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 16:59:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61EB16A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BF213C4D3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m14GtkvB008142; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:55:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m14GtkKp008141; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:55:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:55:46 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Deian Popov Message-ID: <20080204165546.GE7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:59:03 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:12:49PM +0200, Deian Popov wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to expand /usr of FreeBSD 6.2. I plan to get a new HDD, format > it and create slices. But how to proceed after that? Do I just mount it over > the existing /usr or is there any additional steps that must be performed? Probably the easiest thing is to create a large partition on the new disk and then move some of the big stuff over there and create a symlink to it. /usr/local and /usr/src are often good candidates. To do that, create the partition using fdisk (for the slice), then bsdlabel (for the partitions) and finally newfs to create a filesystem on each partition. Then, mount the partition to a nice mnemonically named mount point. I often use /work or even /junk, but you choose. (presuming the new disk is ad0 - second IDE or SATA, your new big partition is partition e and you want to mount it as work and /usr/local and /usr/src are hogging to much of your /usr space) mkdir /work mount /dev/ad1s1f /work Then use tar to move the contents of /usr/local and /usr/src You can pipe a tar to a tar, but I tend to prefer to tar to a file and then untar from that file. I feel safer. cd /usr/local tar cvpf /work/loc.tar * (you can skip the 'v' if it annoys you) cd /work (I use it to see that things are moving) mkdir usr.local cd usr.local tar xvpf ../usr.local Now, check out the new stuff just to feel confident it got there. cd /work/usr.local look in some files Create the sym link cd /usr mv local old.local ln -s /work/usr.local local Check out the link - do a 'cd /usr/local' and make sure it gets you in to /work/usr.local, then go back and rm the /usr/old.local and the /work/loc.tar and you are all set. Do the same for /usr/src cd /usr/src tar cvpf /work/src.tar * cd /work mkdir usr.src cd usr.src tar xpvf ../usr.tar Check it out and then, cd /usr mv src old.src ln -s /work/usr.src src Check out the link cd /usr rm old.src rm /work/usr.tar - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Another way is to make a whole new partition on the new disk just for /usr. First, determine how much space you need for it. Go in to /root and use 'du' cd / du -sk * (or du -sm * or whatever multiplier you want, 'k' makes it list in kilobytes, 'm' in megabytes, etc) Multiply the /usr size by about 2 and create at least one partition on the new disk that suits that size. - 2 gives room for expansion - if you plan to do a lot of installing from ports, or whatever, than maybe you need much more room than that. I would go for >10 GBytes if you plan to build a lot of stuff. Once you get your new disk sliced, partitioned and filesystems build and have made mount points and mounted them, then use dump/restore to move stuff to the new partition and redo the mounts. mkdir /newusr mount /dev/ad1s1e /newusr (presuming it is partition 'e' on SATA disk 1) cd /newusr dump 0af - /usr | restore -rf - Take a look at a few files to make sure it all went well. Fix the mount in fstab and remount /usr and /newusr umount /newusr umount /usr mount /dev/ad1s1e /usr vi /etc/fstab Edit the /usr line so it mounts /dev/ad1s1e instead of /dev/ad0s1f or whatever it is. Clean up a little cd / rmdir newusr You should then be just fine. You can reuse the /dev/ad0s1f space, formerly mounted as /usr for something else. I would suggest [carefully] rm-ing all files in the old /usr space before trying to use it. cd / mkdir /play mount /dev/ad0s1f /play cd /play pwd Make sure where you are rm -rf * do this carefully. If you are in the wrong place it is a disaster. vi /etc/fstab Edit by dup-ing the /usr line and modifying it to be mounting /dev/ad0s1f on /play but with other info being the same. Now you have some space in /play you can play with. By the way, if you are not up-to-date on your FreeBSD version, this would also be a good time to take care of that. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:07:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A0116A420; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3912B13C465; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m14H4ToH008196; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:04:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m14H4T9B008195; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:04:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:04:29 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Reinhold Message-ID: <20080204170429.GF7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> <47A60A10.80907@FreeBSD.org> <64255.217.45.165.129.1202123892.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64255.217.45.165.129.1202123892.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Alexander Motin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:07:45 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 11:18:12AM -0000, Reinhold wrote: > > > >>> If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to specify IP > >>> to let them be negotiated. > >> > >> How will I go ahead and set the static ips for both my wan connections? > >> > > > > If IPs are static then provider itself will negotiate them every time > > same. If you will specify them and provider will request another, > > negotiation will fail. So I would not recommend you to specify them. > > > > Hi > I spoke to our ISP today. I asked them if they can set one of my ips as > the main ip that will be assigned every time I dail in and they told me no > they can't do it because of some security thing on there side :-S > > Basicaly how they explained it to me is because I have 5 ips, when we dail > in we get assigned a dynamic ip and on top of that I have to manually set > the 5 ips to what ever services I would like them to be used for. If I > want my WAN2 connection to use one of the 5 ips I have to manually set it > so that all my out going connections will be using that ip. Your ISP CAN do this. They just won't because they don't want to make it easy for you to run a server. They want to suppress your use. You might check with other ISPs or twist their arm more, or get a little more sophisticated by letting DHCP set the IPs and have your domain registered through one of the nameserver services that will allow you to reset the info each time you boot. Then, there are some utilities you can get to check what IP got set and then notify that nameserver service. I don't remember offhand the names of any of those services or the utilities you can use to talk to them, but there are several and you can just do a little searching for them. ////jerry > > For this reason I have changed my WAN2 settings to this in the config file. > set ipcp ranges my-first-static-ip/32 isp-gateway/32 > > I know you said its not recommended, but I need to use this ip and my isp > can't set that for me. Also once I have a use for the other ips, how can I > add them? Can I create ip aliases for ng1 in the same way I will normally > do by adding them to my rc.conf file? > > Thanks for all the help > Reinhold > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:12:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFE716A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEB813C459 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m14H8meD008240; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:08:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m14H8mVl008239; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:08:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:08:48 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Christian Baer Message-ID: <20080204170848.GH7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:12:04 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:22:30PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:40:53 -0600 Matt wrote: > > > Is the concern with the apparent out-of-order numbering based on how > > you want to access these devices in areas like fstab? > > No, not really. Once I set them up in the directory tree, what the drive's > device name is won't make a diff to how the system works. I was more > worried that maybe the device names (numbers) could change in the future > and then I'd have to start wonderung about what drive is what now and > where to mount what device now. They won't change unless you move them. If you rearrange the order then their device numbers will change and you would have to modify the /etc/fstab file. But, they won't change just by rebooting or something like that. You would have to open the cabinet and move them. ////jerry > > Regards, > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 16:02:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D334316A41B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701FC13C45D; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m14FwiQg007718; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:58:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m14Fwh3o007717; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:58:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:58:43 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Kyle Moffett Message-ID: <20080204155842.GA7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <18CC5A4A2AC36D7FF57615EE@ganymede.hub.org> <478AF6BC.8050604@highperformance.net> <20080114142124.Y55696@fledge.watson.org> <876FB8E38251C27B14CCCA29@atlantis.pc.cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:13:04 +0000 Cc: rra@stanford.edu, rees@umich.edu, "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , matt@linuxbox.com, freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, "Jason C. Wells" , port-freebsd@openafs.org, openafs-devel@openafs.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Hutzelman Subject: Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: AFS ... or equivalent ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:02:07 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:58:29AM -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Jan 16, 2008 1:48 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > > The "let's just slurp everything into the main distribution so we don't > > have to worry about stable interfaces" approach is really poor. It > > encourages bad engineering practice among people maintaining the main > > distribution, discourages innovation and extension by others, and generally > > doesn't scale. It's far better to either attempt to maintain stable > > external interfaces to the VFS and VM subsystems, or else admit that you > > don't have the resources to do so given the relatively small number of > > external users, in which case you almost certainly also don't have the > > resources to keep on top of updates to something like OpenAFS. > > The Linux Kernel presents a very strong counter-argument-by-example. > The amount of patches merged per released version has been linearly > increasing over the last several years; the 2.6.23 => 2.6.24 patch was > 49MB uncompressed, with a 5.7MB changelog. Of that, a significant > portion were VFS changes which touched most filesystems. The various > filesystem-related changes alone between 2.6.23 and 2.6.24 were > 2.9MB. So, there are reasons why many of us prefer FreeBSD to Linux. ////jerry ........ For reference, the *entire* OpenAFS diff between 2.4.6 and > 2.5.30 is all of 8.2MB. The Linux Kernel changes include partial > support for having per-process views of a single filesystem > (Specifically /proc, so /proc/net can have differing contents between > network namespaces). Other features which Linux supports that > virtually no other OS does is multiple filesystem namespaces, where > the mount-tree is selectively independent or shared between > namespaces. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:15:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FE716A469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from cenn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3527513C478 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by cenn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443248216; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:15:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from roadrash (c-76-17-221-93.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [76.17.221.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852606D9E29; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:15:46 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:15:44 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47A732BC.2090204@ariel.ru> In-Reply-To: <47A732BC.2090204@ariel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart17200343.XOFFLvAILH"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200802041115.50984.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Leonid Satanovsky Subject: Re: SATA raid controller on Asustek's P5M2-M X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:15:48 -0000 --nextPart17200343.XOFFLvAILH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 04 February 2008 09:43:56 am Leonid Satanovsky wrote: > Hello, people! > Does anybody know whether the SATA raid controller on Asustek's P5M2-M > motherboard is supported by FreeBSD 6.3 ... or 7.0? > ------------------------------ > We are choosing a motherboard for a low-end mail server (this is a small > company with lots of mail,... and the host will also serve as Internet > gateway... that's the strange configuration -) ) ) > ------------------------------ > Thanks in advance! > Best regards, > --les My experience with the onboard BIOS RAID of various motherboards has been=20 horrific. I'd suggest one of two paths, depending on the RAID configuratio= n=20 you're going for. If you strictly doing mirroring check out gmirror. If you are planning on= =20 some sort of striping and want boot support think about populating one of t= he=20 8x PCI-e slots in the board with a RAID controller. I've had good luck wit= h=20 the highpoint 23xx and 3ware 9650s, I'm sure there are other well supported= =20 options as well. If you really need boot support and striping but costs are so touchy that y= ou=20 can't afford a RAID controllre I'd boot the thing off USB and use=20 gstripe+gmirror before I used the motherboard RAID. It's that bad. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB --nextPart17200343.XOFFLvAILH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHp0hGJvkB8SevrssRAhapAJ0RHJQjstsfibiHVMaOgdwso/wkTwCfYF7w A+aUAQGDY9NMeLhJDxFMy7w= =oIgj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart17200343.XOFFLvAILH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:19:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFE016A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B6C13C47E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so167721tid.3 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:19:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Nzg00NuAfGNwkkRuVUn5RWa4DI2BHK2jIShs4hTRats=; b=SQi/SIEikNCGwsXvmUT1dzvnr3w6Tlyc/riw/PzYuqhczY7ao6PkGP6GNMglP4qQr7MPCIx02fqBoboJZHOTIF3idXVCwm4GsiRm3kW7KxjKeH+y3iGtgwAW5CEm96KOR7OY/oRZL9+l5wtu/yezqttopYnZZw4Muum+HY61Lfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=wT4oIKkj8OR9efj5ByZGMcwcQYJq4Dc2nWRpBx1N80ifhoZjr8bV4hD54OBBmdJg632B0GjiIG62/7jvJ/075O7DSF9pp53UOfn1wLvL0EVsVQoNuC6po6gsB5f3Zv8poXzMkqDZf60mWGdIcgW9hyIproyy4hTp8gMnOQHd9uc= Received: by 10.150.150.3 with SMTP id x3mr3052785ybd.93.1202145146860; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.11.19 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5b826e210802040912o4f47d9b9tee10c5fb5ebf7368@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:12:26 +0200 From: "Reinis Ivanovs" Sender: fatalis.erratum@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5b826e210802031217l7df71386p5f876072996bc4d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5b826e210802031217l7df71386p5f876072996bc4d2@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47086381a259207f Subject: Re: wireless losing connection periodically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:19:25 -0000 hello, I'm surprised that no one replied, but anyway, just an update: it seems I've managed to resolve the problem with this short ifstated(8) config: ============================== # loglevel debug ping = '("ping -q -c 1 -t 1 192.168.1.1 > /dev/null" every 10)' state one { if !$ping set-state two } state two { init { run "logger -p console.notice -t ifstated 'Restarting network!'" run "/etc/rc.d/netif restart ral0" } if $ping set-state one } ============================== that's about it. cheers, reinis On Feb 3, 2008 10:17 PM, Reinis Ivanovs wrote: > hello, > > I've noticed that my wireless connection tends to drop once in a while > and only restores itself after a relatively longish period. I'm > dealing with it now by connecting a laptop by wire (the box doesn't > have a screen or a keyboard) and running "/etc/rc.d/netif restart > ral0", but that's a bother. googling didn't bring up any useful > results, so I'm wondering, what are the best ways to mitigate or fix > this (aside from using a wire)? I'm considering writing a simple > script that'd constantly ping my router and restart the wlan interface > if it stops responding, but perhaps there's something pre-made or more > simple than that available? > > cheers, > reinis > > -- > http://untu.ms/ > -- http://untu.ms/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:22:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9856116A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401CC13C442 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4604D1CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:22:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:22:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D520316034129E7@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D520316034129E7@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041822.19437.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chflag sappend /var/log/messages - syslog-ng can't rotate logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:22:22 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 12:20:49 Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: > I'm interested in making my messages file more likely to survive a hacking > attempt and I've set the sappend flag to that end. It would be nice if > syslog-ng could actually rotate the logfile since it gets quite large, but > the sappend flag seems to prohibit that from happening. Is there any way > to maintain the flag and allow syslog-ng to rotate the files? Hmm, since there's no rotate command to be configured in syslog-ng, you could maybe trick it, by letting a daemon clear the flag and put it back on on the new file. However, it would defeat the purpose, since anyone able to send the signal you specify to the daemon would clear the flag. Best thing to do is take it out of syslog-ng rotation and use cron to rotate it, using a customized script (which of course you the put noschg flag on, once your satisfied). Of course, you could also file a PR and request support for a custom rotate command to be added to syslog-ng ;) -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:40:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A5D16A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7D413C461 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4604D1CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:22:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:22:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D520316034129E7@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D520316034129E7@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041822.19437.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chflag sappend /var/log/messages - syslog-ng can't rotate logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:40:35 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 12:20:49 Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: > I'm interested in making my messages file more likely to survive a hacking > attempt and I've set the sappend flag to that end. It would be nice if > syslog-ng could actually rotate the logfile since it gets quite large, but > the sappend flag seems to prohibit that from happening. Is there any way > to maintain the flag and allow syslog-ng to rotate the files? Hmm, since there's no rotate command to be configured in syslog-ng, you could maybe trick it, by letting a daemon clear the flag and put it back on on the new file. However, it would defeat the purpose, since anyone able to send the signal you specify to the daemon would clear the flag. Best thing to do is take it out of syslog-ng rotation and use cron to rotate it, using a customized script (which of course you the put noschg flag on, once your satisfied). Of course, you could also file a PR and request support for a custom rotate command to be added to syslog-ng ;) -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 17:54:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727CD16A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BCC13C465 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2157569fgg.35 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:54:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=utm0txkMv3KTQG4BVXYp3/uqGQK1kqDDamZm8b/fXE4=; b=VAXVVGdjRvqJxeEMtov3dQc89U89uN4kSkhay2dnJgnkLxYaZpcSFNOafM5643HXqhNxQFdz/9LgdcRFg1PxeTRp+V/UqgmKqS1pT/ri3lZe37oK8eGVKr9vFlq8JNbUxGNgweqqlalTeKEbFhW05lStJaAapY2fez398Aw/jvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=k0YsZkxXlRNBmNsonAVVnyH5D4B21oE9uazgrUSuLVjAiIvRopdBIlqPIe9mA1wCvOLJSLYGk3eTV90J5uGVL+B/axx5tgd4P6lBjIo5IZ87Hgk+E8XG/HJS3P1YdDT+Bj8nYxtR83gF1ntzY++9Bgq4+81PI6UMZlc+r9SXBIU= Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr6848573fga.48.1202147689733; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:54:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:54:49 -0500 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9879a9ca0e5c3137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:54:51 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to work with Libnet in BSD, I ftped the package, did a ./configure and a make install and things seemed to be fine. But when I try to compile a simple application, I get a msg : " undefined reference :libnet_init" , actually it looks like it doesnt recognize any of the libnet functions calls. Am I missing something here ? or is there something else to be done about getting libnet to run here ? Thanks Bhuvana From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:06:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E285016A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7B13C43E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F351CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:06:37 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:06:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041906.36631.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eugen Udma , Eugen Subject: Re: Behind a router revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:06:39 -0000 On Sunday 03 February 2008 14:47:47 Eugen wrote: > The configuration files for FreeBSD are shown below. > The output of ifconfig and netstat are also shown for BSD and Linux. > > What confuses me is the fact that having the same router settings, when I > boot in Linux the network is usable, while in BSD it's not: I can't even > ping 192.168.1.1, while the same ping in Linux works. What's the error message ping gives? Anything firewallish in /etc/rc.conf? Settings all look normal to me, except for the metric on the interface. Humor me and set it to 1, using: ifconfig dc0 metric 1 -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:02:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB37B16A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from todd@handyfast.com) Received: from omr11.networksolutionsemail.com (omr11.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A71513C468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from todd@handyfast.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr11.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.74]) by omr11.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m14HdrJ0004848 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:39:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 7612 invoked by uid 78); 4 Feb 2008 17:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail30) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr11.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 17:39:52 -0000 Received: from 68.51.98.155 (todd@handyfast.com [68.51.98.155]) by webmail30 (Netsol 11.2.30) with WEBMAIL id 11495; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:39:52 +0000 From: todd@handyfast.com To: questions@freebsd.org Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Network Solutions Webmail, Build 11.2.30 X-Originating-IP: [68.51.98.155] X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:39:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:14:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: missing ttyv5 in freebsd 7.0 rc-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:02:06 -0000 loaded free bsd 7.0 rc1 and often wont boot with all terminal e boots then when i hit alt F1, 2,3,4,5,6,7 all but one will come up sometimes its ttyv5 sometimes missing ttyv2 other times (rarely) all 6 will hit like nothing is wrong ? problem ????? thanks todd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD7B16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4413C442 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF5D1CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:29:34 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:29:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:29:35 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 18:54:49 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > I'm trying to work with Libnet in BSD, I ftped the package, did a > ./configure and a make install and things seemed to be fine. > But when I try to compile a simple application, I get a msg : " undefined > reference :libnet_init" , actually it looks like it doesnt recognize any of > the libnet functions calls. Am I missing something here ? or is there > something else to be done about getting libnet to run here ? Could you show the entire compile line, you're likely to miss -L/usr/local, but there may be other things. Also helps to know what you use for you simple application: bsd's make with a Makefile, gmake with a Makefile or just type commands by hand. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:36:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03F516A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F61A13C45D for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so2517923hub.8 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:36:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=UpKD/cRs22uQfDE8rVEjwszPNi6npPbYvOmBn9It2O0=; b=GsSA/JVC+RJ2hXJjkUzWUGQhCEuOspGLWKk7VQ2k6niKuvTkOD8VDBPrcgXFzcT/VWkY4FZY7Op3442f0YC+IP3adq1tztVcu8k7l33dCrWqKioqYOILmKW3x1UBjnOA72qsuzVjgdZsfNXHGJbdURdbjenSVI+Je0qbFKHbw28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sRM453LvLgGtlWRvoMQSW45p9KmREdqpJnYEMYiUuiKLi40k5ltU3Q6kxvPsOv4foreHNCVeT5wkkgbqNCEt5FjhbV3h60GNL5GNylA6HfWRZdsDLPvp31FJcvgbrdtk6uCvTWnc6fBPcTCrahiBC0dVfcEJKeZ48u4qxay03j8= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr6886085fgb.53.1202150177465; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:36:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:36:17 -0500 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9157b4983f65062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:36:19 -0000 well actually, even the sample applications seem to have the same problem, So I'm guessing its some installation issue: # cc dns.c /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : : undefined reference to 'libnet_init' This is how my compilation result reads for the dns.c sample application. Says the same for all libnet calls. On Feb 4, 2008 1:29 PM, Mel wrote: > On Monday 04 February 2008 18:54:49 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > > > I'm trying to work with Libnet in BSD, I ftped the package, did a > > ./configure and a make install and things seemed to be fine. > > But when I try to compile a simple application, I get a msg : " > undefined > > reference :libnet_init" , actually it looks like it doesnt recognize any > of > > the libnet functions calls. Am I missing something here ? or is there > > something else to be done about getting libnet to run here ? > > Could you show the entire compile line, you're likely to miss > -L/usr/local, > but there may be other things. > > Also helps to know what you use for you simple application: bsd's make > with a > Makefile, gmake with a Makefile or just type commands by hand. > > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:36:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D2016A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0B713C4E9 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14IZ1u3009128; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:35:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14IYu5K009125; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:34:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:34:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080204165546.GE7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20080204193311.O9109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204165546.GE7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Deian Popov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:36:52 -0000 > to it. /usr/local and /usr/src are often good candidates. > > To do that, create the partition using fdisk (for the slice), then if it's freebsd-only drive, why using fdisk at all? i live very well without it on ALL machines i installed. you simply get (for example) /dev/ad0a instead of ad0s1a etc. you bsdlabel ad0 instead of ad0s1. don't forget to bsdlabel -B ad0 if it's boot disk replace ad0 to whatever your disk is From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:42:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB6916A46C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B3A13C4D9 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m14IcwQ3008851; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m14IcwrG008850; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:58 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080204183858.GA8831@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080204165546.GE7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080204193311.O9109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080204193311.O9109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Deian Popov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:42:16 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 07:34:56PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >to it. /usr/local and /usr/src are often good candidates. > > > >To do that, create the partition using fdisk (for the slice), then > > if it's freebsd-only drive, why using fdisk at all? Just because it is a more generalized way of doing it and it is so easy, and takes no extra space, so why not! ////jerry > > i live very well without it on ALL machines i installed. > > you simply get (for example) > > /dev/ad0a instead of ad0s1a etc. > > you bsdlabel ad0 instead of ad0s1. > > don't forget to bsdlabel -B ad0 if it's boot disk > > replace ad0 to whatever your disk is > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:47:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E3116A474 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50D13C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JM6MH-0006hw-9H; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:47:57 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com ([192.168.1.4]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m14Im1na034773; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:48:01 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14Ilm1A031853; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:47:54 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m14Ilm9I031852; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:47:48 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:47:48 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: x11@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:47:59 -0000 Hello, In the online handbook, 5.4 X11 Configuration, 5.4.2 Configuring X11 states "As of version 7.3, Xorg can often work without any configuration file by simply typing at prompt: % startx If this does not work, or if the default configuration is not acceptable, then X11 must be configured manually" Where *is* this default configuration located? Basically, I've got a notebook that I've just (Sunday 3rd Feb 2008) installed (and updated to lastest src / ports) that the "default" xorg (that is, without having to run "Xorg -configure") setting appear to be fine - except for one (ever-present) problem - keyboard layout for UK. So, the *only* thing I'd like to change is the XkbLayout setting. Is it possible to locate this "default configuration" and simply change that config setting? On another note, is there a reason why despite going through the motions of setting location / keyboard layout during installation, on first boot, none of this locale-based information is retained? Thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:00:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538BE16A468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369F813C4E1 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14Ivx0U009172; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:57:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14Ivolr009169; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:57:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:57:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <200802041115.50984.josh@tcbug.org> Message-ID: <20080204195114.O9132@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A732BC.2090204@ariel.ru> <200802041115.50984.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Leonid Satanovsky Subject: Re: SATA raid controller on Asustek's P5M2-M X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:00:09 -0000 > My experience with the onboard BIOS RAID of various motherboards has been > horrific. I'd suggest one of two paths, depending on the RAID configuration > you're going for. you well called it "BIOS RAID". because it is actually completely normal hardware, just with crappy software RAID in BIOS. gmirror, gstripe is software RAID, gconcat is useful too, all is much better and is portable (you may move that disks to any other controller). and you may gmirror partition, not whole drive. for booting it's best to create small boot partition. as it's not much space i usually create boot partition on every disk so it can boot with disks swapped, missing etc. it's just important to make boot partition as a. example of my /boot/install.sh which i run every time i change anything in /boot on 6 disk system: #!/bin/sh for x in ad10a ad12a ad14a ad16a ad18a ad20a ;do newfs -m 0 -i 32768 -b 16384 -f 2048 /dev/$x mount /dev/$x /root/mnt-boot cp -pR /boot /root/mnt-boot umount /root/mnt-boot done replace /root/mnt-boot with something else if prefered. please don't ask me how to do it with sysinstall. the answer is impossible or very difficult like temporary install without gmirror, boot partitions and copying. best way is to use liveCD/DVD and do manual install. is there anywhere manual-install-howto? if not i could write it having a bit of time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:08:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181D816A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C414213C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.30]) by mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EAB30E7FA for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:08:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-13-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2E01B8E4A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:08:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (dslb-088-067-252-125.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.67.252.125]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D093027E6 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:08:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14J8CDv050061 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:08:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@kemoauc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m14J8CsO050060 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:08:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5683/Mon Feb 4 19:17:58 2008 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Green saver doesn't shut off screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:08:19 -0000 With some graphic cards, the "green" screen saver doesn't shut down my flatscreen. Since I had some trouble finding one properly supported by X.org, I've tried different graphic cards over the last few days. DPMS mode in X11 is fine, but without X11, the "green" syscons screen saver doesn't work as expected. Both with a GeForce 6200LE and a Radeon X300SE (RV370) card, the screen is blanked, i.e., all black, but _not_ powered off. With a Matrox G450, the green saver works as expected, though; the monitor powers down into standby mode. All cards connected by DVI. Is anybody else annoyed by this? Is this a bug or are new graphics cards not sufficiently VGA-compatible any longer for the green saver to work? (Seen on 8.0-CURRENT/amd64, but I doubt that makes any difference.) -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:22:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB6A16A41A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2346913C469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so433414nfb.33 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:22:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent:x-face:x-pgp-fp:x-pgp:x-mailer:x-attribution:pgp:face:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=I+MyfabmLyY0ygneNKlvRFTj1Li3J+dfqDRRXneI0yo=; b=uQu3z2o3mDeWleva31O1RGb9lqAh9BuCwiTCnrmCr/WYFm+t9IBDxil/kjv82CBSIYlgrPca+bBlamMNWEsBxKtVaAa380jGOO77BsskquPv9J0c+01nNgfKmNnf5MZdRL8uO+Xr80pIXGkpp3RDiKVHSzj4OTcFY0OCq9/W1sI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent:x-face:x-pgp-fp:x-pgp:x-mailer:x-attribution:pgp:face:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=IgXKXmMFevzB8Bx+629T0RPZQ1CYaXkYHkfGbhIwAjuuC4j7WXx/7TGteePEReoTnaeHoVOPkjaMbLCHDndF+O70UvSFQXnkS0XW23tfZdrB1Yy7UFe4uezg7SJTaX7Ub6vMgvYenN9/DXh0x5JcKR482zdyqrp/R6X2+YUEgDU= Received: by 10.78.195.10 with SMTP id s10mr12956843huf.9.1202152953052; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from chateau.d.lf ( [122.162.237.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v33sm2067663hub.60.2008.02.04.11.22.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IA==?= =?utf-8?B?4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?=) To: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> (Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar's message of "Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:36:17 -0500") Organization: /\/0/\/3 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Face: "\:nMpJ)EA!j>2nEu-[(+&o:N+CtL^AS\, Jv*LO5qBr#W2.\=d MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksg==?= Cc: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:22:35 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar writes: Bhuvaneswari> well actually, even the sample applications seem to have = the same problem, Bhuvaneswari> So I'm guessing its some installation issue: Bhuvaneswari> # cc dns.c Bhuvaneswari> /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : := undefined Bhuvaneswari> reference to 'libnet_init' Probably you need to add '-lnet' to your command line to include libnet's libraries during linking. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:25:31 -0000 LUluZXQgZG9lc250IHdvcmsgOi0oCgpPbiBGZWIgNCwgMjAwOCAyOjIzIFBNLCBBc2hpc2ggU2h1 a2xhIOCkhuCktuClgOCktyDgpLbgpYHgpJXgpY3gpLIgPHdhaGphdmEubWxAZ21haWwuY29tPgp3 cm90ZToKCj4gPj4+Pj4gQmh1dmFuZXN3YXJpIFJhbWt1bWFyIHdyaXRlczoKPiAgICBCaHV2YW5l c3dhcmk+IHdlbGwgYWN0dWFsbHksIGV2ZW4gdGhlIHNhbXBsZSBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMgc2VlbSB0 byBoYXZlCj4gdGhlIHNhbWUgcHJvYmxlbSwKPiAgICBCaHV2YW5lc3dhcmk+IFNvIEknbSBndWVz c2luZyBpdHMgc29tZSBpbnN0YWxsYXRpb24gaXNzdWU6Cj4KPiAgICBCaHV2YW5lc3dhcmk+ICMg Y2MgZG5zLmMKPiAgICBCaHV2YW5lc3dhcmk+IC92YXIvdG1wLy9jY0lteVZ0MS5vKC50ZXh0KzB4 ODgpIDogSW4gZnVuY3Rpb24gJ21haW4nIDogOgo+IHVuZGVmaW5lZAo+ICAgIEJodXZhbmVzd2Fy aT4gcmVmZXJlbmNlIHRvICdsaWJuZXRfaW5pdCcKPgo+IFByb2JhYmx5IHlvdSBuZWVkIHRvIGFk ZCAnLWxuZXQnIHRvIHlvdXIgY29tbWFuZCBsaW5lIHRvIGluY2x1ZGUKPiBsaWJuZXQncyBsaWJy YXJpZXMgZHVyaW5nIGxpbmtpbmcuCj4KPiBIVEgKPiAtLQo+IEFzaGlzaCBTaHVrbGEg4KSG4KS2 4KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksgo+IGh0dHA6Ly93YWhqYXZhLndvcmRwcmVzcy5jb20vCj4g wrctLSDCty0gwrfCt8K3wrcgwrctLS0gwrctIMK3wrfCty0gwrctIMK3LS3Cty3CtyAtLcK3IC0t IMK3LSDCt8K3IMK3LcK3wrcgwrctwrctwrctIC3Cty3CtyAtLS0gLS0KPiBmcmVlZC5pbiB8IGZy ZWVkb20gaW4gdGVjaG5vbG9neSBhbmQgc29mdHdhcmUgfCAyMi0yNCBGZWJydWFyeSAyMDA4IHwK PiBEZWxoaQo+ICAgICAgICAgwrfCty3CtyDCty3CtyDCtyDCtyAtwrfCtyDCty3Cty3Cty0gwrfC tyAtwrcgICDCt8K3LS0tIC0tLS0tIC0tLS0tIC0tLcK3wrcKPgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:28:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ED416A469 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3D913C458 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14JQF4I009412; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:26:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14JQBPx009409; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:26:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:26:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080204183858.GA8831@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20080204202501.C9408@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204165546.GE7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080204193311.O9109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080204183858.GA8831@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Deian Popov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: expanding /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:28:06 -0000 > > Just because it is a more generalized way of doing it and it > is so easy, and takes no extra space, so why not! because it adds an unneeded mess. at least for me. and reduces chance that windows will make any mess when (probably by accident) windows will be booted with this drive connected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:29:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2985616A41A; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C10513C4EE; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14JRsPL009419; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:27:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14JRpmg009416; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:27:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:27:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stacey Roberts In-Reply-To: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Message-ID: <20080204202629.Q9408@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:29:50 -0000 > then X11 must be configured manually" > > Where *is* this default configuration located? default settings are embedded in Xorg binary - i think. but there is no default configuration file. > So, the *only* thing I'd like to change is the XkbLayout setting. Is it > possible to locate this "default configuration" and simply change that config > setting? i think Xorg -configure generates exactly this - automatic configuration generate it, fix keyboard and put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:37:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C9F16A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDE113C474 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM78Q-0001vi-6i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:37:42 -0500 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM78P-0006FO-Cq; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:37:41 -0500 Received: from authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.11]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lXdh1Y0020EKrUA0000000; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:37:41 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.11 X-EN-IMPSID: lXdh1Y0020EKrUA0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JM78O-0005a4-W5; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:37:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:37 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Message-ID: <20080204133837.3c3b3b67@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:37:44 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: > > I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support > > for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support > > for that on both ends. > > > > More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info > > about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with > > out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use > > or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. > > I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything > exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick > search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least > part of) what you're looking for: > > http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm > > Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux > (which is a loooong time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender > has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former > reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one > (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the > referenced page above which shows you how to set up the > corresponding recvmsg call. > > Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants > to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). Thanks. I did not think to try a search for that. I was trying various combinations involving the word unix and socket. I've gotten it installed now and will post with how it works out. 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boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:38:17 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Pj4+Pj4gQmh1dmFuZXN3YXJpIFJhbWt1bWFyIHdyaXRlczoNCiAgICBCaHV2YW5lc3dhcmk+IC1J bmV0IGRvZXNudCB3b3JrIDotKA0KDQp0aGF0cyBub3QgJy1JbmV0JyBidXQgJy1sbmV0JyAuDQoN CkhUSA0KLS0gDQpBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xhIOCkhuCktuClgOCktyDgpLbgpYHgpJXgpY3gpLIgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgaHR0cDovL3dhaGphdmEud29yZHByZXNzLmNvbS8NCsK3LS0gwrct IMK3wrfCt8K3IMK3LS0tIMK3LSDCt8K3wrctIMK3LSDCty0twrctwrcgLS3CtyAtLSDCty0gwrfC tyDCty3Ct8K3IMK3LcK3LcK3LSAtwrctwrcgLS0tIC0tDQpmcmVlZC5pbiB8IGZyZWVkb20gaW4g dGVjaG5vbG9neSBhbmQgc29mdHdhcmUgfCAyMi0yNCBGZWJydWFyeSAyMDA4IHwgRGVsaGkNCiAg ICAgICAgIMK3wrctwrcgwrctwrcgwrcgwrcgLcK3wrcgwrctwrctwrctIMK3wrcgLcK3ICAgwrfC ty0tLSAtLS0tLSAtLS0tLSAtLS3Ct8K3DQo= --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp2nxHy+EEHYuXnQRAlvIAJ9eXsnBFzU1qpKnwUaLa3QdanWuTACgjdhD t8C1v1eUC/iQ+aY/wVHEF0I= =lpVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:39:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92E716A46B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC8C13C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB4227B448 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.42]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C752345C047 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (dslb-088-067-252-125.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.67.252.125]) by mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC0736E86F for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14INYE3048176 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@kemoauc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m14INX7v048171 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:23:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1563a4fd0802040403x2b71eaa1yd3d8f78e7742843b@mail.gmail.com> <200802041320.14955.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204142943.U8012@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802041436.52389.wundram@beenic.net> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5680/Mon Feb 4 17:24:59 2008 on mail-in-02.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Endianness of freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:39:04 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > Alpha is little endian. i had alpha 21066 running linux. > > Not true. Alpha is big- or little-endian (so, it's bi-endian), Alpha is little-endian in practice. I've never heard of DEC--or anybody else for that matter--building a big-endian alpha. Note that DEC's previous CPU architecture, the VAX, was also little-endian. > depending on how it's booted, ... on how _the CPU_ is booted, yes. By the time you are running firmware and thinking of booting an operating system, it's much too late. > and IIRC the Windows NT version running on Alpha used the > big-endian mode of the CPU. But I might be mistaken. I think you are mistaken. The ARC MIPS platform, which Windows NT originally was written for, was also little-endian. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:42:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F0716A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA61713C442 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3F01CD37; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:41:58 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:41:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:42:00 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 19:36:17 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > well actually, even the sample applications seem to have the same problem, > So I'm guessing its some installation issue: > > # cc dns.c > /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : : undefined > reference to 'libnet_init' > > This is how my compilation result reads for the dns.c sample application. > Says the same for all libnet calls. Linking 101. If you used the port (/usr/ports/net/libnet) then: cc -L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 -lnet dns.c or: cat <BSDmakefile PROG=dns LDADD=-lnet LDFLAGS+=-L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 .include EOF then type make :) -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 19:48:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DC316A41A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DB713C465 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so85814uge.37 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:48:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; 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Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077FE13C461 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so86749uge.37 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:53:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=d7vkf1zrQuh42xOlIUZMPUJ3/JOsZfsZ+qr/y0fQ1y0=; b=E0GnLKmiQWznnifvufjF/dMO8oV2HNKji38/T3CVhLP+e8nRv1sWaLsJjJoc0d0MfCSiMJjAycJTujdHCr4hD/ZgwbbNa/P20pQTSeJyu94HAbUP9BlPX6KPnhYoegpMy8ipKrBAlTI4y4YOcpPDd01BPoagY8LZ61qCGxgGDLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pWkegRbnovhwRpG8SmVtxjjF1bTemC+SrUbKdm9WSanGi5P9uDaf7jWH1rg5jgIOLrsy4VFOlD5mroRS/scdnkg+SrPE8pbf6K86QPxEj7j4eiNNgWktut9B/ubNXVfFBXgn+0ZOvxDeE9BaNljMjVCEXG4sz4t5ZCT5gJjvH0w= Received: by 10.67.115.13 with SMTP id s13mr385077ugm.41.1202154802650; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:53:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802041153o65f6d0a9ofd376f5ed48ba900@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:53:22 -0500 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b1e4f14b63077542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:53:25 -0000 Question: Do I need to do this for every libnet app I compile, like modify the PROG variable in the app's folder .... even for the sample aplications already compiled & set ? Aside this, if someone could tell me the exact compilation steps for Libnet, it would be really helpful. Thanks Bhuvana On Feb 4, 2008 2:41 PM, Mel wrote: > On Monday 04 February 2008 19:36:17 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > > > well actually, even the sample applications seem to have the same > problem, > > So I'm guessing its some installation issue: > > > > # cc dns.c > > /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : : undefined > > reference to 'libnet_init' > > > > This is how my compilation result reads for the dns.c sample > application. > > Says the same for all libnet calls. > > Linking 101. If you used the port (/usr/ports/net/libnet) then: > > cc -L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 -lnet dns.c > > or: > cat <BSDmakefile > PROG=dns > LDADD=-lnet > LDFLAGS+=-L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 > > .include > EOF > > then type make :) > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 20:17:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DF816A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAC213C455 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=0IHuIv=SZ=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.1] helo=mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM7kZ-00077K-Cf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:17:07 -0500 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JM7kY-0008Pv-Si; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:17:06 -0500 Received: from authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.9]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lYFw1Y00A0BkWne0000000; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:15:56 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: lYFw1Y00A0BkWne0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JM7jL-0006Zr-Ch; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:15:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:16:33 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." Message-ID: <20080204141633.07099349@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080204133837.3c3b3b67@vixen42> References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204133837.3c3b3b67@vixen42> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:17:08 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:38:37 -0600 "Zane C.B." wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 > "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > > > Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: > > > I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support > > > for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires > > > support for that on both ends. > > > > > > More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info > > > about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with > > > out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to > > > use or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. > > > > I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything > > exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick > > search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least > > part of) what you're looking for: > > > > http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm > > > > Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux > > (which is a loooong time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender > > has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former > > reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one > > (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in > > the referenced page above which shows you how to set up the > > corresponding recvmsg call. > > > > Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants > > to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). > > Thanks. I did not think to try a search for that. I was trying > various combinations involving the word unix and socket. > > I've gotten it installed now and will post with how it works out. I can say it installs mostly fine. A few tests do not pass. I am still working on getting a working test script with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 20:22:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F0216A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (mailhub2.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797E13C4E8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz (its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz [10.4.15.133]) by mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14KMGDR015307; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:22:16 +1300 Received: from its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.134]) by its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:22:16 +1300 Received: from MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.129]) by its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:22:16 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:22:15 +1300 Message-ID: <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F0652379D@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Green saver doesn't shut off screen Thread-Index: AchnYW3HBKC93qmJSd267i7GyT7cxwACcK+A References: From: "Brent Jones" To: "Christian Weisgerber" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2008 20:22:16.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2842530:01C8676B] X-PMX-Version: 5.4.0.320885, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2008.2.4.121227 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_200_299 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: Subject: RE: Green saver doesn't shut off screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:22:19 -0000 > With some graphic cards, the "green" screen saver doesn't shut down > my flatscreen. I've noticed this for years with DVI displays on FreeBSD. I see it on my machines with both ATI and Nvidia cards. It's annoying, but just a niggle for me. Cheers, Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 20:42:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D55616A421 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1202587312.e4b61b@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894FB13C448 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1202587312.e4b61b@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14K1r7X028976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1202587312.e4b61b@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id m14K1rj1028960 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1202587312.e4b61b@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1202587312.e4b61b@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:01:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:52 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5683/Mon Feb 4 13:17:58 2008 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on 3s1.com Cc: Subject: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:42:02 -0000 I run a small FreeBSD server with a standard DSL line. I have it ping the ISP every five seconds, and when it doesn't ping it logs the results. I notice very inconsistent results. Sometimes it's up for a week without a single drop, while other times it's up for 30 seconds, down for a minute, up for 2 minutes, down for 1. That can go on for 10 hours, and then maybe it's stable again for a day or so. It's always appears to be the DSL signal itself, as I can see the modem sync light starts flashing when the signal goes down. To end any possibility of the phone company pointing their finger at the wiring in my house, I put the DSL modem right at the phone connection block where the line enters the house and then called them. Problem persists. The phone company say they have replaced lines all over the neighborhood while trying to fix the problem. Eventually the connection becomes stable, the phone company declares that they "found the problem", but when he's gone, the trouble starts again. Now knowing how common this is, I installed the same logging system at another company's server, that is located a few miles away. Guess what? Same drop-in drop-out problem. To any average computer user, these lines might appear normal - when a page stops loading for a minute they just live with it, and forget about it. So here's my question: 1. is there anyone who has a lot of experience monitoring DSL lines that can tell me how common this is? 2. Is there any way to avoid it? 3. I have used three different DSL modems, but the are all home quality: an Alcatel Speed Touch, a Speedstream 5260, and a Westell Wirespeed. Would spending more money on another type of modem help? If so, what is recommended? Any comments would be helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:01:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37B116A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7132013C45B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634B21CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:01:14 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:01:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041153o65f6d0a9ofd376f5ed48ba900@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802041153o65f6d0a9ofd376f5ed48ba900@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802042201.13223.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:01:15 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 20:53:22 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > Question: > > Do I need to do this for every libnet app I compile, like modify the PROG > variable in the app's folder .... even for the sample aplications already > compiled & set ? Hmm, that goes into BSD's make system, so read up on it: less /usr/share/mk/bsd.README also: gzcat /usr/share/doc/psd/12.pmake/paper.ascii.gz|less These are more general C-programming topics though, not specific for FreeBSD. I just gave you a BSD make example, cause I knew that'll work out of the box, but you can use other systems, like the GNU autotools + gmake or jam. I'd also look into the following: man ports man pkg_add > Aside this, if someone could tell me the exact compilation steps for > Libnet, it would be really helpful. libnet11-config --help -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:19:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE4716A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D9C13C467 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14LGq39031888 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:16:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14LFU2p028709; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:16:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:15:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Banning In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Message-ID: <20080204221345.F27269@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:19:30 -0000 > without a single drop, while other times it's up for 30 seconds, > down for a minute, up for 2 minutes, down for 1. That can go on > for 10 hours, and then maybe it's stable again for a day or so. > It's always appears to be the DSL signal itself, as I can see the > modem sync light starts flashing when the signal goes down. make sure you don't get a timeout because of high load or simply - the server you ping doesn't respond. > To end any possibility of the phone company pointing their finger > at the wiring in my house, I put the DSL modem right at the phone > connection block where the line enters the house and then called > them. Problem persists. looks like polish telecom isn't anyway special ;) > "found the problem", but when he's gone, the trouble starts again. it's not line problem but modem hardware problem or their routing problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:23:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A9716A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAF013C47E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from rocher.urgle.com ([80.177.40.50]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.67) id 1JM8mk-000NwT-0W; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:23:26 +0000 Message-ID: <47A78210.8070201@urgle.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:22:24 +0000 From: Mike Bristow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20080204170848.GH7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080204170848.GH7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange HDD order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:23:27 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:22:30PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:40:53 -0600 Matt wrote: >> >>> Is the concern with the apparent out-of-order numbering based on how >>> you want to access these devices in areas like fstab? >> No, not really. Once I set them up in the directory tree, what the drive's >> device name is won't make a diff to how the system works. I was more >> worried that maybe the device names (numbers) could change in the future >> and then I'd have to start wonderung about what drive is what now and >> where to mount what device now. > > They won't change unless you move them. If you rearrange the order > then their device numbers will change and you would have to modify > the /etc/fstab file. But, they won't change just by rebooting > or something like that. You would have to open the cabinet and > move them. If you are worried by this sort of thing, label your filesystems (with newfs -L or tunefs -L) and mount using /dev/ufs/. My fstab has: /dev/ufs/root / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ufs/home /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ufs/tmp /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ufs/var /var ufs rw 2 2 for example. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:41:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BB316A479 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1202592360.118b83@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A28013C46B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1202592360.118b83@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14LQ1tW055532 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:26:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1202592360.118b83@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id m14LQ01L055531 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:26:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1202592360.118b83@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1202592360.118b83@skytracker.ca using -f Received: from [192.168.1.6] (office [192.168.1.6]) by 3s1.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: <47A782E5.7080202@skytracker.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:25:57 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <20080204221345.F27269@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080204221345.F27269@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5683/Mon Feb 4 13:17:58 2008 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on 3s1.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:41:56 -0000 Thanks Wojciech, for your thoughts. > make sure you don't get a timeout because of high load or simply - the > server you ping doesn't respond. > Check that - > it's not line problem but modem hardware problem or their routing > problem. But isn't the sync going down a sign of a bad line connection? The ISP I used leases the lines from the telephone company, and when they hear "sync is down" they just call the phone company and tell them to solve it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:47:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C234816A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+SZ=ceff704c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2C213C4EF for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+SZ=ceff704c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F7B163F95 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C277023E4A0 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:22:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:22:06 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204212206.33841a4a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: <47A70558.1040500@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sendmail should not bind to loopback only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:47:01 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:12:00 +0100 "Wouter Oosterveld" wrote: > I can't find this in the FreeBSD handbook (not in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html > anyway). Would that be a documentation bug? If not, which piece of > documentation should I have read? For anything to do with base system daemons it's often useful to look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Sendmail is little unusual in that although it's nominally "off" by default, there has to be some limited form of mail delivery for daily security reports etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:49:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CA616A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED6113C46E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m14Ln86u057565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:49:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47A78854.701@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:49:08 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:49:17 -0000 David Banning wrote: e drop-in drop-out problem. > > To any average computer user, these lines might appear normal - > when a page stops loading for a minute they just live with it, and > forget about it. > > So here's my question: > > 1. is there anyone who has a lot of experience monitoring DSL lines > that can tell me how common this is? I cannot speak to the frequency of connection loss, but I have seen huge variability (over months) in *speed* if the premise is far away/at the limit of the DSL connection distance. DSL is quite fussy about the distance between the CPE and the phone company CO locations. But "distance" here is logical or electrical distance - almost always greater than straightline between the CO and the premsise. Why? Because phone company lines run in raceways (usually underground) that do not take the shortest path. Moreover, as construction and other changes in the neighborhood mandate, trunks are changed, lines spliced, pairs moved and so on. So... the "electrical" distance from CO to premise is typically further than the straight distance. This constant fiddling with the phone company infrastructure causes all manner of sins including intermittent electrical noise, disconnection, modem retraining, and just plain poor signal-to-noise ratio. And - in my experience - it can vary all over the place, from as low as 30% to 100% of claimed channel capacity. Welcome to DSL - where you are once again at the mercy of the phone company. > 2. Is there any way to avoid it? Yes - switch to different fabric. I live near a large metro area, and the local cable company finally figured out that there was money to be made offering their very fast/reliable cable service to businesses. For $10/mo *less* than I was paying for 1.5/384 DSL with 8 static IPs, I now get 6.0/1.5 w/5 static IPs from Comcast. My only regret is that I could not continue to do business with Speakeasy, which is hands down the best ISP I've ever seen. The Comcast package has thus far (about 4 months) been flawless. They have a separate support group for business customers, they handled my reverse DNS perfectly and promptly, and - if I remain on the local backbone for testing - the system actually peaks to over 20Mb/sec. If you're not too far away from the CO you can try adsl2, but if your copper is lousy for dsl, it will be lousy for that as well. The real answer is to get your ISP to light the fires under their phone company provider and make them fix their copper properly. Good luck with that. The phone company - at least in the US - isn't particularly obligated to make DSL work. They only have to hit some signal-to-noise standard. After that, it's up to your DSL provider to make it happen. > > 3. I have used three different DSL modems, but the are all home > quality: an Alcatel Speed Touch, a Speedstream 5260, > and a Westell Wirespeed. Would spending more money on > another type of modem help? If so, what is recommended? Maybe not more money, but trying different devices can help. The Broadext modems I used were twice the speed of the old Speedstreams on the same circuit. Newer chipsets should be more noise immune, but they cannot fix lousy copper in the phone system. > > Any comments would be helpful. One other thing to check. There should be a grounding wire coming off the NID (the box on the side of the building where the phone co terminates their copper). The wire is typically clamped to a stake in the ground. Make sure that the wire/stake surfaces are clean, and the clamp is tight to ensure the best possible earth ground connection. Once you cleaned/tightened this, it's not a bad idea to cover it with grease to keep moisture out. A small bit of electrical resistance on an earth ground can translate into very nasty noise spikes when there is an inductive noise source (like an electrical motor starting) somewhere near you. Good luck. The phone company was built around a voice model with a 300-3000 Hz bandwidth design criteria. That's been vastly improved as the phone backbones went all digital in the past 40 years, BUT, the "last mile" copper is/was the last thing to change. Oddly, even when they build new buildings (as was the case in my premise), they often don't do a great job with the copper. P.S. If all else fails, there's satellite and/or cellular internet. However, these are both rather expensive, not that fast, and have significant latency problems. Latency isn't that big a deal for data downloads, but it rears its ugly head when you want to stream audio/video or any other kind of quasi "real time" data. I feel your pain ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:02:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10DC16A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A80C13C474 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14M0slE034470; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:00:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14M0sRr034467; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:00:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:00:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Banning In-Reply-To: <47A782E5.7080202@skytracker.ca> Message-ID: <20080204225852.K34453@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <20080204221345.F27269@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A782E5.7080202@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:02:42 -0000 >> > Check that - >> it's not line problem but modem hardware problem or their routing problem. > But isn't the sync going down a sign of a bad line connection? yes it is. i don't know what modem/router your ISP uses, but the one that polish telecom gives has 2 connection leds one is titled "DSL" other i titled "Internet" DSL lits when line connection is OK, "Internet" lights up when all routing is active, their pppoe tunneling they do etc. etc. i often get situations that DSL was on but "Internet" off. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:06:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD43116A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1884A13C455 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14M4vBZ034479 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:04:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m14M4vIm034476 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:04:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:04:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080204230100.Q34453@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: changing bzip2 in default distribution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:06:47 -0000 why bzip2 is still used. grzip from ports (archivers/grzip) is much faster and compresses much better and it's not GNU licenced some comparision: total 806208 -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 142508544 4 lut 22:44 html.tar -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 34466564 4 lut 22:44 html.tar.bz2 -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 26043111 4 lut 22:49 html.tar.grz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 42337409 4 lut 22:45 html.tar.gz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 20184253 4 lut 22:50 html.tar.rar -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 160659968 4 lut 22:34 lib.tar -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 56879968 4 lut 22:34 lib.tar.bz2 -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 52263811 4 lut 22:40 lib.tar.grz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 60533772 4 lut 22:38 lib.tar.gz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 47406105 4 lut 22:57 lib.tar.rar -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 122414080 4 lut 22:51 mail.tar -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 14984351 4 lut 22:51 mail.tar.bz2 -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 11504042 4 lut 22:55 mail.tar.grz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 20453341 4 lut 22:52 mail.tar.gz -rw------- 1 wojtek wojtek 12138763 4 lut 22:59 mail.tar.rar html is all html files from /usr/share/doc libs.tar is from my /usr/local/lib/*.so.*, and mail.tar are all FreeBSD mailing lists mails i've got tarred. i run gzip -9, bzip2 -9, grzip -m3 -b8m, rar -mdG -m5. rar is almost clear winner (2-cond with mail compression), but clear loser on speed and it's closed source. excluding rar, grzip is a clear winner. the differences are large. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:35:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DCB16A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D613C457 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4dbb9154.pool.einsundeins.de [77.187.145.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1DDA44540 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:35:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:36:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080204230100.Q34453@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080204230100.Q34453@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802042336.30363.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: changing bzip2 in default distribution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:35:08 -0000 Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 23:04:57 schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > why bzip2 is still used. > > grzip from ports (archivers/grzip) is much faster and compresses much > better and it's not GNU licenced bzip2 isn't GNU licensed, just to get things straight (straight from www.bzip.org): """...because it's open-source (BSD-style license), and, as far as I know, patent-free. (To the best of my knowledge. I can't afford to do a full patent search, so I can't guarantee this. Caveat emptor). So you can use it for whatever you like. Naturally, the source code is part of the distribution.""" -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:43:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3022016A420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taho89@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D6E13C468 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taho89@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY104-W29 ([65.54.175.129]) by bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:31:42 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.253.49.6] From: Tuan Ho To: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:31:41 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2008 22:31:42.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7392E50:01C8677D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Help on freeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:43:41 -0000 I have use freeBSD 4.10 =20 1/ As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three consecutive u= nsuccessful login attempts? =20 2/ How can I enable logged file to monitor successful and unsuccessful logins = and logouts? =20 =20 Thanks, =20 taho89 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:44:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708F316A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1C13C448 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8051CC8B; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:44:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:39:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <70020FB8530646E2A2D029BE675BFF9A@gdmckee.home> <200802021443.01476.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1211295A3F3E4BEB9B753AC5080DDF7C@gdmckee.home> In-Reply-To: <1211295A3F3E4BEB9B753AC5080DDF7C@gdmckee.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802042339.18109.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Gordon McKee Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Intel=AE_G31_+?= ICH7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:44:22 -0000 On Sunday 03 February 2008 15:15:29 Gordon McKee wrote: > none2@pci3:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x0df7105b chip=3D0x816810ec rev= =3D0x01 > hdr=3D0x00 > =A0 =A0 vendor =A0 =A0 =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor' > =A0 =A0 device =A0 =A0 =3D 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > =A0 =A0 class =A0 =A0 =A0=3D network > =A0 =A0 subclass =A0 =3D ethernet Using the above info, do a send-pr and request support for it. Seems it's a= =20 new hw revision, that isn't defined in the driver. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:50:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDBD16A41A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEA413C448 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1919836wxd.7 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:50:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xzuyvrsca4uMet0Y+HIwd7HxfXU/fJrT52lKweVYvGY=; b=dMPz4ufyLHn+poVLfBRtuhQwqATfdQ6TslXobQR+So4GNvz3n/Em1Uv6eKlKytqNBhAC9gt4B53nfCAnkbt172LbUwCFSDP38c0A7moie0gtHWfpA1ijXwZxNUCtGDcIpuFljAWC2bJvxtd7YozENIqAMmJlg2GeDIRsDGZBwlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CgS24+hYRkXDbLxPc4AbCd3S5DKN2RzOG3xQ1EkjubyAe6tYXlLn1kJHnNufqSUhuyQA5p9/qnV88UHCCYBab12lLrzbRDQCY/ZqWybbvTh2inH2PYJQCY3d+5w+cmoS+c+38twq8I4n9QwGjZz5LSwfcbSzZdUpo4EHC667qqg= Received: by 10.140.185.19 with SMTP id i19mr5060503rvf.296.1202163763628; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [190.18.34.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i33sm16112501rng.3.2008.02.04.14.22.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47A79030.1070805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:22:40 -0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sd=E4vtaker?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: alt-64 in kde (@) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:50:34 -0000 Hey, I just got a bunch of weird users in the local net, Im running FBSD 6.2 in every PC. They asking me "why i got no @?" so I was doing some research for acouple of days. Using US keyboard layout i found the that hitting shift+2 got me a @, using spanish layout hit altgr+2 got me a @ using latin american hit altgr+q got me a @... So... I was thinking why i can do it and this 5-6 users cant? Then... I sit right to them and watched... They hit alt+64 from numpad like an old DOS user -.- and they thinking "windows is better because got @ in alt+64, why we using this weird OS?". My first tough was: "come on, its in the key with the big @ symbol, hit the damn key!!!", later was, "I will kill these stupid monkey I told them like 1000 times, hit the right key combo!!!". Now im tired enough, so... Someone know a why to make alt+64 print a @ in the open program? They just use KDE, KATE, KMail and Firefox -.- Sdav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 22:50:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE12216A420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (smtpout0184.sc1.he.tucows.com [64.97.136.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC5613C457 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769770500907B09; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:28:27 +0000 Message-ID: <4769770500907B09@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50, 0, 0, b5c0a66976d08130, f9860d13918002ac, peter.piggybox@virgin.net, -, RULES_HIT:379:541:543:599:600:960:966:967:973:980:988:989:1254:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2194:2196:2199:2200:2393:2525:2553:2560:2565:2682:2685:2741:2828:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3350:3636:3865:3867:3869:3873:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4385:4860:5007:7576:7679, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian: 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from COM (client-82-27-229-6.brnt.adsl.virgin.net [82.27.229.6]) (Authenticated sender: peter.piggybox@virgin.net) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:28:25 +0000 (UTC) To: Brian ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Peter Harrison" Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:28:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VersaMail(c) 1998-2004 3.1C, palmOne, Inc. X-Sender: peter.piggybox@virgin.net X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:50:41 -0000 I don't know about the adaptor you've mentioned, but I'm using an Asus WL-167g (a ralink chipset) without problem using the native ural driver. Check the manpage for other supported devices. Peter Harrison Peter, Deb, Jessica, & Alex Visit us online at www.4harrisons.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Subj: usb wifi Date: Mon 4 Feb 2008 6:39 Size: 386 bytes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Has anyone tried the usb based wifi adapters, something like this http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 with freebsd? Brian _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:17:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B0616A421; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod@netleader.com.au) Received: from wallace.netleader.com.au (wallace.netleader.com.au [203.122.246.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B392D13C457; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod@netleader.com.au) Received: from gromit.local (gromit.local [192.168.0.3]) by wallace.netleader.com.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m14NHaUw064957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:47:39 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from jarrod@netleader.com.au) Message-Id: From: Jarrod Sayers To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <738861275EBE2BF6D27F547B@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:47:36 +1030 References: <59DD6CCE263ECD75A7283A7B@ganymede.hub.org> <477A72B8.8010307@protected-networks.net> <477BAD2B.8070603@tomjudge.com> <1DB78354-EBA2-43D0-A2D6-EFDA4950135B@netleader.com.au> <477C1629.1030604@tomjudge.com> <20080103104129.T36551@wallace.netleader.com.au> <738861275EBE2BF6D27F547B@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Cc: Tom Judge , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nagios + 6.3-RELEASE == Hung Process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:17:43 -0000 On 03/01/2008, at 11:56 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > As noted in my original report, this isn't a nagios issue per se ... > my first > experience with this issue was with Azureus/java ... so its a > 'threading issue > in general' ... A patch to force the package to link against libthr() has been committed [1] and should be available once mirrors update as net-mgmt/ nagios 2.10_1. This has been tested since this conversation stated in the net-mgmt/nagios-devel port [2] without any negative feedback being received. Bundled in the update is the inclusion of libltdl as requested by Tom Judge. I'd be interested to know how people go with the updated port. Thanks for your patience. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120150 [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119246 Jarrod. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:30:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EECF16A419 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4E713C478 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (busymonkey.monkeybrains.net [66.92.187.117]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m14NUq0L067272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <47A7A02C.70206@monkeybrains.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:30:52 -0800 From: Rudy Rucker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92, clamav-milter version 0.92 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: If I set up gmirror for a SLICE, how do I set up the MBRs to both be bootable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:30:53 -0000 I have two disks, ad0 and ad8. ad0s1 and ad8s1 are a gmirror ad0s2 and ad8s2 are in a zpool Other than pulling ad0 and rebooting, is there a set of steps I can take to make sure ad8 is bootable? Is an identical MBR a good enough test? dd if=/dev/ad8 of=ad8.mbr bs=512 count=1 dd if=/dev/ad0 of=ad0.mbr bs=512 count=1 and here are the md5's of the MBR files MD5 (ad0.mbr) = f7dced6b4ab7f171cc66ae44ece16a73 MD5 (ad8.mbr) = f7dced6b4ab7f171cc66ae44ece16a73 I want to check some production boxes to make sure they are set up correctly. I've never had a problem with using whole disks in gmirror, but I am new to using gmirror for slices. Disk setup: > gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0s1 COMPLETE ad0s1 ad8 > zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 ad0s2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad8s2 ONLINE 0 0 0 - Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:32:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A2416A479; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7C313C4CC; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4DE1CD38; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:32:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:32:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47A79030.1070805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47A79030.1070805@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802050032.24102.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?q?Sd=E4vtaker?= Subject: Re: alt-64 in kde (@) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:32:26 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 23:22:40 Sd=E4vtaker wrote: > Someone know a why to make alt+64 print a @ in the open program? They > just use KDE, KATE, KMail and Firefox -.- > Sdav control centre -> regional & accessibility -> Input actions Add a new one, using examples as a guide.I tied it with alt+, to get an @ k= ey,=20 cause I don't have a numpad here, and it works. I selected "Active window" = to=20 be sent to, so it should work on anything. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:32:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A2416A479; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7C313C4CC; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4DE1CD38; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:32:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:32:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47A79030.1070805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47A79030.1070805@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802050032.24102.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?q?Sd=E4vtaker?= Subject: Re: alt-64 in kde (@) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:32:26 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008 23:22:40 Sd=E4vtaker wrote: > Someone know a why to make alt+64 print a @ in the open program? They > just use KDE, KATE, KMail and Firefox -.- > Sdav control centre -> regional & accessibility -> Input actions Add a new one, using examples as a guide.I tied it with alt+, to get an @ k= ey,=20 cause I don't have a numpad here, and it works. I selected "Active window" = to=20 be sent to, so it should work on anything. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:57:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA5316A418 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0565E13C447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14NoAcW034204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:50:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:57:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4769770500907B09@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) In-Reply-To: <4769770500907B09@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.348 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:57:19 -0000 On Tuesday 05 February 2008 00:28, Peter Harrison wrote: > I don't know about the adaptor you've mentioned, but I'm using an Asus > WL-167g (a ralink chipset) without problem using the native ural driver. > Check the manpage for other supported devices. But be wary. I've recently been in correspondence with someone (on a Linux Users' Group list) who bought an Asus WL-167G on the strength of the ural(4) manpage, and found it didn't work - apparently later versions use a different Ralink chipset which as far as we could tell is only supported in the rum(4) driver in 7.0. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 23:58:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C92316A41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F42613C442 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m14NRnQR049482; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:27:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m14NRmmt017027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:27:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200802042327.m14NRmmt017027@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:30:00 -0500 To: Jarrod Sayers From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: References: <59DD6CCE263ECD75A7283A7B@ganymede.hub.org> <477A72B8.8010307@protected-networks.net> <477BAD2B.8070603@tomjudge.com> <1DB78354-EBA2-43D0-A2D6-EFDA4950135B@netleader.com.au> <477C1629.1030604@tomjudge.com> <20080103104129.T36551@wallace.netleader.com.au> <738861275EBE2BF6D27F547B@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Tom Judge , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nagios + 6.3-RELEASE == Hung Process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:58:08 -0000 At 06:17 PM 2/4/2008, Jarrod Sayers wrote: >On 03/01/2008, at 11:56 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>As noted in my original report, this isn't a nagios issue per se ... >>my first >>experience with this issue was with Azureus/java ... so its a >>'threading issue >>in general' ... > >A patch to force the package to link against libthr() has been >committed [1] and should be available once mirrors update as >net-mgmt/ nagios 2.10_1. This has been tested since this >conversation stated in >the net-mgmt/nagios-devel port [2] without any negative feedback being We have been using nagios linked against libthr via libmap.conf since the end of November and its been working great since then. Prior to that, we would see 100% CPU usage a couple of times a week on various nagios procs. Hasnt happened since. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 00:09:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04E816A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E7F13C442 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m15091HF006961 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47A7A91D.90508@brianwhalen.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:09:01 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4769770500907B09@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) <200802050157.17478.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200802050157.17478.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:09:02 -0000 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > But be wary. I've recently been in correspondence with someone (on a Linux > Users' Group list) who bought an Asus WL-167G on the strength of the ural(4) > manpage, and found it didn't work - apparently later versions use a different > Ralink chipset which as far as we could tell is only supported in the rum(4) > driver in 7.0. > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > Based on all the feedback the key seems to be pay attention to which chipset is in use. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 00:17:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E9E16A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C7213C458 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732D621210AB; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 5E43628083; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:17:54 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807134-a68efbb0000008b9-2d-47a7ab32aa2b Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 3C1EE2808E; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4E314437-2B3E-4FC1-9825-5E08DA278635@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Tuan Ho In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:17:53 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:17:54 -0000 On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote: > 1/ > As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three > consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? As root, you could run: chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ > 2/ > How can I enable logged file to monitor successful and unsuccessful > logins and logouts? This should be enabled by default already; examine /var/log/auth.log.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 00:20:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E6616A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA1A13C458 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so643092anc.13 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:20:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AxFIB9ByqWn/8h9N58KJMvk0VA30Eqox3NyS0G2nank=; b=G5QFI/t9z0pp4GZy/yF9jir0G7S/EbsuFKxBGN7veU8hK4Y90HD/FhzfY7UcOE72FDA4moNDIkE5xOlAJXPZ8Dc0XQHk9GDwRPOi+ru/jWGU8qVbwhfybx+f3fiOK38Km+suBE9bJYIbHYDMisLlJ8YQ/KoFyqIaxSLZ/AxRi0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=a1k5bGF2C3PvJ9gmObUUICiMjkyH7xsQGgrcFj2o8UDfGS0kM6KPYUJHNoq7rNLkfrTg6fxkOzpwPS5BGoeUUPdsfiotxY00jVM4iIpXgdgmHSAZ9DeLEGJXfUi6swlzHMv37me7yM1HKoYzCpR5nNNSfPcFeJK2kgnUHogUoMg= Received: by 10.150.155.1 with SMTP id c1mr3231809ybe.85.1202170822154; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:20:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:20:22 -0600 From: Eugen To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802041906.36631.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200802041906.36631.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behind a router revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:20:23 -0000 I disabled the firewall in /etc/rc.conf. The message from ping is: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable How do I set the metric to 1 at boot? Is there a setting I have to put in /etc/rc.conf or somewhere else? It still baffles me why Linux works on the desktop, Windows works on the laptop (wireless) and BSD doesn't. This tells me that the settings in the router are OK. Eugen On Feb 4, 2008 12:06 PM, Mel wrote: > On Sunday 03 February 2008 14:47:47 Eugen wrote: > > > The configuration files for FreeBSD are shown below. > > The output of ifconfig and netstat are also shown for BSD and Linux. > > > > What confuses me is the fact that having the same router settings, when I > > boot in Linux the network is usable, while in BSD it's not: I can't even > > ping 192.168.1.1, while the same ping in Linux works. > > What's the error message ping gives? > > Anything firewallish in /etc/rc.conf? > > Settings all look normal to me, except for the metric on the interface. Humor > me and set it to 1, using: > ifconfig dc0 metric 1 > > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 00:48:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3DA16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cotharyus@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDA613C447 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cotharyus@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so706760ele.3 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0pEhNAyl4Oa14SYDsPCl5DUGuiVTx6Gqypluv7XF9sA=; b=QC9mgx1wH2gh0caSl6r/afmoD683s0AO0ERIAxzWSIBagQaLapY4CYYmThHX7kzSGM4A2Wiio8WUDXasCOn41M4s/yr++o7x/tj8LbPM9atgVAM4u2/uzBLUjMfS/GONYRqYuqMw8VbM2BqGcoBDf5Rwkoi91q7eEeySzN68PV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=wfv3qR+LuyDXZD9BEcUiymo6/nEgPtdTQETDXutIilLXeVhG+jVOsZM0NxAjJuqGtqywdnkueg4daFBzzylCKPmfM2JJDr6bThkBeiAgm6SpKW+2vwhtC+zidSvC6Wjno5AwPE1sCNU9JLGlR3hOsV2sNMffMC1Jjbr5GFr0UYM= Received: by 10.150.51.6 with SMTP id y6mr3240658yby.46.1202172516886; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.11.2 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <715841970802041648t363cf283y4cb7f91a9d22146@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:48:36 -0600 From: Drew To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Perl error running lint on spamassassin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:48:37 -0000 Hi, I know I've been noisy of late, but that should slow down if I ever get things working around here again. I've given up on my old server hardware, and put another machine in it's place. Unfortunately, everything but mail is working for me on this server. The problem seems to be with spamassassin. When I run spamassassin -D --lint from the command line, everything _seems_ to check out. However, when I run mailscanner --lint it segfaults: root@colossus(/)# mailscanner --lint Checking version numbers... Version number in MailScanner.conf (4.64.3) is correct. Your envelope_sender_header in spam.assassin.prefs.conf is correct. Checking for SpamAssassin errors (if you use it)... SpamAssassin temp dir = /var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/SpamAssassin-Temp zsh: segmentation fault mailscanner --lint I wasn't real sure what was causing this, but running SA lint from mailwatch provides a clue, perhaps: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" I've removed and reinstalled perl5.8 from ports, double checked everything with the perl-after-upgrade script, ensured that I've handled the use.perlports thing, etc. After all that failed to solve this, I rebuilt and reinstalled world. Still no joy. I like to try to solve stuff that looks easy like this on my own, but obviously at this point, I've overlooked something simple. Anyone care to pass me a clue-bat? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 01:27:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88B716A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4427613C469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m151RoCK015644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:27:50 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m151Ro3r087662; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:27:50 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:27:50 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:27:52 -0000 Hi, I am having problem with /usr/sbin/makemap hash on huge databases under FreeBSD 5.5 and 6.3 while it is working on 4.11. By huge I mean around 380,000 lines in the /etc/mail/access file. After approximately 375,000 lines added into access.db I get: makemap: access.db: line 375135: key abcd.efgh: put error: Operation not permitted and no more line will add. I know that having 380,000 REJECT rules in access.db may not be the best choice, but it is easy and it was working si far (still works under 4.11). Did anything changed in makemap since 4.11? Any limit in the size of the DB? It seems that my message yesterday was zapped by SpamAssassin (because I included names of infamous spamers as part of my examplke), so I rewrote it. Thanks in advance, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 01:33:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5060F16A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCB813C45D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A9F4292076; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:33:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A7BCE3.5090907@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:33:23 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070606) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <47A65F29.6050103@onetel.com> <18342.27463.531242.853756@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18342.27463.531242.853756@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:33:26 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Chris Whitehouse writes: > >> it's a stupid little question really but I have an xterm filled >> with a log file (telnetted into another machine) which is >> scrolled off the screen. > > If you can telnet, can you ftp? > > > Robert Huff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > its my adsl router, speedtouch 780. I can ftp to it but commands i've tried either don't exist or give me permission denied message. I'll ask my ISP if there is a file and where it is. That would be a nice solution. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 02:03:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A863D16A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from n8a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com (n8a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D909B13C478 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from [217.12.4.214] by n8.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 01:50:17 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t1.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 01:50:17 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.102] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 01:50:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp206.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2008 01:50:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 498672.24434.bm@omp206.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53477 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2008 01:50:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jtGhQiOR5hbTxmmRhXidcFIx/Ai4lr0B/J2ccuYFXdtohoafHD0gANOrnk3/aJ9Btre2D4JoX2taFDTCSdBnQgiwoErGbecr75FHr2YZow7C0cvWCR0IpaWju1BpGkc1pBVnC/fbkUOwllJzDVCBvpS1JRd9Gz6m41Ts/ox1TB4=; X-YMail-OSG: lh.n6E4VM1l_ILEo8L_2fGLgpvdm1vjYaPMAdSxUpnVi5x6lpqM9NxeuvXIEL0nm4vVThl44ufk.wu6plOSD8lhPyBYK5PsVKGqG Received: from [70.145.2.230] by web45101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:50:17 PST Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: p9_gkvye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <280693.52565.qm@web45101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 6.3-RELEASE, i915G, drm, dri X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:03:59 -0000 Sort of solved. 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 02:08:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B3F16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6C513C44B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-145-228.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.145.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m1528IK5014417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <1E7F8770-4E0A-4B6A-842F-9B6D6321E5D7@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:08:18 -0800 References: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/5690/Mon Feb 4 17:11:39 2008 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:08:40 -0000 On Feb 4, 2008, at 17:27, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I am having problem with /usr/sbin/makemap hash on huge databases > under FreeBSD 5.5 and 6.3 while it is working on 4.11. > > By huge I mean around 380,000 lines in the /etc/mail/access file. > > After approximately 375,000 lines added into access.db I get: > > makemap: access.db: line 375135: key abcd.efgh: put error: > Operation not permitted > > and no more line will add. > > I know that having 380,000 REJECT rules in access.db may not be the > best choice, but it is easy and it was working si far (still works > under 4.11). > > Did anything changed in makemap since 4.11? Any limit in the size of > the DB? > > It seems that my message yesterday was zapped by SpamAssassin (because > I included names of infamous spamers as part of my examplke), so I > rewrote it. I am just under 300K lines in that map at present. While I have always wondered where hash was going to break, I hadn't found the limit yet. However, the time to build the hash table is extremely large with that many entries. I ran some tests a couple months ago using btree for the map type (subject was 'Map size'). I didn't test over 300K entries, but it sure built the maps a whole lot faster. You might try that and see if it builds or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 02:44:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0F216A469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from computero71@yahoo.com) Received: from web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A04A13C474 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from computero71@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94551 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2008 02:18:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=c8u7426n4v3dhRoXzWxOMIJ5FIpJbq58EVx4X7HVpezFX3pp1CS0gR+mR+S93TKhtUAcC1HVkE2VEjrCnw+IfPJ0jLNeUOWjek9lSuqF+dw+YauW0QGI9hCcSYzEBn7Mrm/8Fe2aFQKnon/6E24aopn7JBgfnZsgQZou5sX/jt8=; X-YMail-OSG: 3B90ipUVM1mjDd0GLbXy7Ly3ejWFKQ_15QgZa8vJb8UAARMUcq1PmQY4nHhXdIrRdoxRK4Lx2VuZSFsSb_7r.QHuEELNOwMmbWcEVoLfwPPvv3jGKWfpA.zqrLfzcwE0gWGX3IfZ.ztSMvJXpRCBx35IQA-- Received: from [68.51.98.155] by web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:18:10 PST Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: tttttooooodddd ddddddvnek To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <423168.93568.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: missing ttyv5 in freebsd 7.0 rc-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:44:52 -0000 loaded free bsd 7.0 rc1 and noticed on re-boots seems to be missing 1 ttyv* terminal almost every time when i hit alt F1, 2,3,4,5,6,7 all but one terminal will come up ... also ps listing shows all but one terminal ttyv* sometimes its ttyv5 sometimes missing ttyv2 other times (rarely) all 6 will hit like nothing is wrong ? problem missing ttyv* ????? thanks todd ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:15:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5216A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB45613C447 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1768759rvb.43 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:15:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=hcK4mplhM6ESP2NgFaJWYN9z8r7Iz6H0QOOzzrJK46U=; b=HxeRcIq3LtGAshTSxlUfxf35TWD+h5wqpag+zZNBgqrtA3msnivUYcdJuiMZr0pmiXywBQMh4jnLNxsqOKyTMMHVVOOAyhtgR18fnTdI1VlVlfNUewUBOgrmHMqWLBqW3YFyDLZkj6qqJUEMESFijlq65PkgLsUcr8scI9X4Sso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=rtP9kq7tUo1an/Ds+YQFlkewLDOaSUrlvZl+XqwuCXRqn8Q06LCC762XHwvq8oW1fBFhH9bTEs/bnlbvSAwZaogZ6QJLOU7g9q8rPXvxN+x9ZpwfRjDonOoRxifWlldrVvW7Bup6qzo/KSqOJTrt5I+sMwGt7PgHuPX6+15glYY= Received: by 10.140.147.18 with SMTP id u18mr5248180rvd.202.1202181300100; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sniper ( [71.221.189.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm5643954rvb.24.2008.02.04.19.14.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:14:58 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:14:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:15:01 -0000 HI, I just installed smartmontools from ports on my churches system and I think I'm glad I did. However, not being completely familiar with it, I'd like some help with the messages (and errors) that have been discovered thus far (since I installed it on Saturday, yikes!). First was this, and it's repeated in the log /var/log/messages frequently: Feb 4 18:19:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0, 12 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors Even though this entry comes from today, this was e-mailed to me within hours of enabling smartd on Saturday. I understand what sectors are and I know what unreadable is. I was wondering what "pending" meant. Then, yesterday I was e-mailed this one: Feb 3 02:49:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0, Self-Test Log error count increased from 0 to 1 Using smartctl I found that option "-l" with the argument "selftest" would give me more information. This is what I found: whitbap# smartctl -l selftest /dev/ad0 smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.2] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% 60397 67413 # 2 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% 60373 67413 I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > 100 times). Thanks all, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:23:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B58D16A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B94013C45B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m153NpDH020068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:23:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m153NnOG004527; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:23:49 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:23:49 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802050323.m153NnOG004527@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: bc979@lafn.org In-reply-to: <1E7F8770-4E0A-4B6A-842F-9B6D6321E5D7@lafn.org> (message from Doug Hardie on Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:08:18 -0800) References: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <1E7F8770-4E0A-4B6A-842F-9B6D6321E5D7@lafn.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:23:53 -0000 > I am just under 300K lines in that map at present. While I have > always wondered where hash was going to break, I hadn't found the > limit yet. And what is even more weird is that last night it managed to build the hash, with yet about 385,000 lines in /etc/mail/access... Thanks any way. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:30:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A3F16A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2A713C45A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2248945fgg.35 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:30:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=39sIGMwOgRzAZ3hTr6DkmNIPwbw89rlSYOiP9v47mIg=; b=PudiD77jd4s26QbstFx8UCThp8Gp6DjuwfS/xaNcFjLTCo6i1PAMQuTpcbS4ebOPTnKf1cFCLHvJWuarecArIN21W73I8SnIvgWvTBuPlHGO3VP0nax1ta9kEyBnZKYUp9Re6tbtxYdWyzpep7PUsSQ/RYoE5hnhmMimUU1zn5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=WKJKWOvncsI+0/4/OaM3AKtMKvIjKTU/7Bs9ZAuaeGlFoG7RWsI8K8b9SnLUo10LTjpdOZ/WvjzKppq9tLhT7+kyUqQZHnimjFIFg332tod1U/Aj/EjoY3VdOjI6n7mPSx1N0wmYRpQeNMHwlUe0hE1NUQ10rk8Ad29mHQuDAcU= Received: by 10.86.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr7297857fga.64.1202182247079; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:30:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802041930y1b209944ice740f47d006cf83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:30:47 -0500 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ee56f5d95a76d948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:30:51 -0000 Sorry I'm not getting this....... what did u want me to try ? I'm not using the ports collection and have installed libnet 1.1.2.1 in root. Did u say I had to add these lines to the make-file of my app.c sample file or to the BSD make-file in usr/share/mk or is it something else ? .........also my /usr/local/lib doesnt have any lib11 file like that. Just wanted to understand it before I tried it. Thanks Bhuvana On Feb 4, 2008 2:41 PM, Mel wrote: > On Monday 04 February 2008 19:36:17 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > > > well actually, even the sample applications seem to have the same > problem, > > So I'm guessing its some installation issue: > > > > # cc dns.c > > /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : : undefined > > reference to 'libnet_init' > > > > This is how my compilation result reads for the dns.c sample > application. > > Says the same for all libnet calls. > > Linking 101. If you used the port (/usr/ports/net/libnet) then: > > cc -L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 -lnet dns.c > > or: > cat <BSDmakefile > PROG=dns > LDADD=-lnet > LDFLAGS+=-L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 > > .include > EOF > > then type make :) > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:45:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31BB16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C9513C474 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m153jPtS009302; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:45:25 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:45:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802050445.25287.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: todd@handyfast.com Subject: Re: missing ttyv5 in freebsd 7.0 rc-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:45:32 -0000 On Monday 04 February 2008, todd@handyfast.com wrote: > loaded free bsd 7.0 rc1 and often wont boot with all terminal e > boots then when i hit alt F1, 2,3,4,5,6,7 all but one will come up > sometimes its ttyv5 sometimes missing ttyv2 other times (rarely) all 6 will > hit like nothing is wrong ? problem ????? Well, perhaps your keyboard is broken? Seriously though, what do you mean by "missing"? What exactly happens when you have a missing tty? -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:48:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5CC16A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014F13C46B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVQ008O8YKNWEI8@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:48:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:48:22 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <47A498E0.1090805@otenet.gr> To: Manolis Kiagias Message-id: <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A3ACAE.5020000@student.utwente.nl> <47A498E0.1090805@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:48:25 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: >> E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> >>> Is there a tutorial on how to configure compiz fusion on FBSD 6.3 / >>> gnome or fluxbox. >> >> 1. Use the port/package. >> 2. Every now and then I see messages fly by in which you can find >> exactly which flags/options to use. >> 3. You are right, there should be documentation... >> >> Alphons >> >> P.S. I found this stashed in a folder meant for future reference: >> >> > Assuming you have already setup you X server for composite, to run >> > compiz-fusion enter these commands: >> > >> > (as normal user) >> > >> > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-dekstop-hints ccp & >> > emerald --replace & >> >> Credits to Manolis Kiagias :-) > Never thought this was such a sought-after feature :) > > Anyway, here is a quick article I just wrote: > > http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article.html > > Your feedback is welcome. > > Manolis > I have it working now but there are two issues that I seem not to be able to solve. First compiz will start when x starts but emerald won't start and I get no window borders and can't move them. Solution is to open the terminal window and run emerald --replace &. Second issue is with compiz, I open ccsm to configure my 3d effects but they won't get saved, it will let me select them or unselect them but once I close ccsm and run it again every change is gone and the defaults are back. Any Ideas? Do the users have to be members of a special group? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 04:09:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CE916A46C for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D9113C4EE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.107.210.24]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JVQ009G3WM2PWK2@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:06:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:08:51 -0500 From: Francois-Xavier Charpentier de Beauville To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <47A7D343.1090603@charpentier-de-beauville.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Subject: Preserving file permissions with dump and restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:09:12 -0000 Hi, I have a box with three hard drives: /dev/da0 - dedicated to the OS /dev/ad4s1e - data drive - mounted as /store /dev/ad5s1e - hold a backup of /dev/ad4 - mounted as /backup I used 'dump' to backup everything from /store to /backup with the following command: dump -0aun -f /backup/fullbackup /store As expected, the result is a dump file called 'fullbackup' Then I tested a restore, by restoring the fullbackup file from /backup to /store. I did the following: 1) made /store pristine: newfs -U /dev/ad4s1e 2) mounted /dev/ad4s1e on /store 3) cd into /store 4) ran the command: restore -r -uv -f /backup/fullbackup 5) remove 'restoresymtable' from /store The restore went fine and I had all the files back. However, all file permissions were gone. How can I preserve file permissions with dump / restore? Thanks in advance for your help From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 06:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D57C16A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72B013C457 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1796687rvb.43 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:08:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Nrm6Du9xitvnACCHPV4SQ0Le34j6W5ae0ZUvZFTTo4g=; b=AwjynMgSFaAs9pKbQ5x06wSgPTuuZxN0zJXMYics8TuulUAclrMM5V6BNpdREu0DRvnWesrDW5CwNGvbZKT4kuDb8513SSbst6sSKnWj/yCqv1VxHadQ14ezAT+ce0KV9iviW4PtAxX9q8CWKLLytzDKBhtXMBydlqL8zeA7kfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Sm7YiTo6Md/nlpmfCrPoJ9EYZ51Akc+QTjlwvjeEDvBzOLS2UFnXksKGs7WXt7H+qRcrvRXRpSoZ9Yk/VmItraBfdeSHrKlJkA6GScen12SBfoJ3ZZMoTHVXJ6SyuN2qJM4isNcxMvkiwiEQEkeFI4Z1VG7QQwjpvsyfsRTQUrw= Received: by 10.141.123.4 with SMTP id a4mr5310163rvn.294.1202190270367; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.141.7 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:44:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:44:30 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com In-Reply-To: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:08:54 -0000 On 04/02/2008, Stacey Roberts wrote: > Hello, > In the online handbook, 5.4 X11 Configuration, 5.4.2 Configuring X11 > states "As of version 7.3, Xorg can often work without any configuration file > by simply typing at prompt: > % startx > > If this does not work, or if the default configuration is not acceptable, > then X11 must be configured manually" > > Where *is* this default configuration located? > from man 5 xorg.conf: /etc/X11/ /usr/local/etc/X11/ /etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG /usr/local/etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG /etc/X11/xorg.conf-4 /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/xorg.conf /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf. /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf-4 /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf. /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf-4 /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf Which is unless it was changed at compile time, which if you didn't it isn't. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 06:29:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF88B16A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@stigascorp.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7720B13C44B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@stigascorp.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3635453pyb.10 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.250.11 with SMTP id c11mr14800744qbs.49.1202192977955; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.17 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:29:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <75988d070802042229h4b5c1dbfq1d93d019814f8ab6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:29:37 -0500 From: "FreeBSD User" To: "Jonathan Chen" In-Reply-To: <20080130180222.GA33985@osiris.chen.org.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <75988d070801300653u21137648w86bd17b2c1f212a4@mail.gmail.com> <20080130180222.GA33985@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:29:40 -0000 Hi there, I got X working -- I went into sysinstall and installed one of the NVIDIA drivers. No luck with the mouse. Here is my dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 10:10:07 UTC 2007 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (2402.42-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Stepping = 11 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 usable memory = 4280856576 (4082 MB) avail memory = 4119498752 (3928 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Dec 24 2007 10:08:39) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, cfde0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_perf0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 cpu2: on acpi0 est2: on cpu2 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 device_attach: est2 attach returned 6 p4tcc2: on cpu2 cpu3: on acpi0 est3: on cpu3 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 device_attach: est3 attach returned 6 p4tcc3: on cpu3 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem 0xe6000000-0xe6ffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe4000000-0xe5ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 uhci0: port 0xe500-0xe51f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xe100-0xe11f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xee101000-0xee1013ff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 em0: port 0xa000-0xa01f mem 0xe9020000-0xe903ffff,0xe9000000-0xe901ffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:05:14:8e em0: [FILTER] pcib4: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 atapci0: port 0xb000-0xb007,0xb100-0xb103,0xb200-0xb207,0xb300-0xb303,0xb400-0xb40f mem 0xee000000-0xee001fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4 atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci0 ata4: [ITHREAD] pcib5: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 uhci3: port 0xe200-0xe21f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xe300-0xe31f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: on usb5 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci5: [ITHREAD] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: on usb6 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xee100000-0xee1003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: on usb7 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 ahc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xed000000-0xed000fff irq 19 at device 1.0 on pci6 ahc0: [ITHREAD] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem 0xed001000-0xed001fff irq 18 at device 1.1 on pci6 ahc1: [ITHREAD] aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xe600-0xe607,0xe700-0xe703,0xe800-0xe807,0xe900-0xe903,0xea00-0xea1f mem 0xee102000-0xee1027ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI Version 01.20 controller with 6 ports detected ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci1 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: on atapci1 ata7: [ITHREAD] ata8: on atapci1 ata8: [ITHREAD] ata9: on atapci1 ata9: [ITHREAD] ata10: on atapci1 ata10: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd1fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: on uhub4 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir and a TILT dir. ukbd0: on uhub4 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on uhub4 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle acd0: DVDR at ata4-slave UDMA33 ad10: 238474MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 152627MB at ata6-master SATA300 ad14: 715403MB at ata7-master SATA300 ad16: 715404MB at ata8-master SATA300 ad18: 715404MB at ata9-master SATA300 ad20: 715404MB at ata10-master SATA300 GEOM: ad14: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad14: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. GEOM: ad16: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad16: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. GEOM: ad18: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad18: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. GEOM: ad20: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: ad20: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad12s1a On 1/30/08, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:53:14AM -0500, FreeBSD User wrote: > > [...] > > Problem 2: > > I cannot get X started. I get the following errors: > > > > Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) > > Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0) > > Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0) > > Make sure you install X by using the meta-port x11/xorg. You'll miss > stuff out if you install by hand. > -- > Jonathan Chen > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned > at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 06:39:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34DC16A420 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC0A13C469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-365503.home.otenet.gr [87.202.155.148]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m156d8a8029398; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:39:08 +0200 Message-ID: <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:39:07 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A3ACAE.5020000@student.utwente.nl> <47A498E0.1090805@otenet.gr> <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:39:11 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> >> >> Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: >>> E. J. Cerejo wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a tutorial on how to configure compiz fusion on FBSD 6.3 / >>>> gnome or fluxbox. >>> >>> 1. Use the port/package. >>> 2. Every now and then I see messages fly by in which you can find >>> exactly which flags/options to use. >>> 3. You are right, there should be documentation... >>> >>> Alphons >>> >>> P.S. I found this stashed in a folder meant for future reference: >>> >>> > Assuming you have already setup you X server for composite, to run >>> > compiz-fusion enter these commands: >>> > >>> > (as normal user) >>> > >>> > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-dekstop-hints ccp & >>> > emerald --replace & >>> >>> Credits to Manolis Kiagias :-) >> Never thought this was such a sought-after feature :) >> >> Anyway, here is a quick article I just wrote: >> >> http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article.html >> >> >> Your feedback is welcome. >> >> Manolis >> > > I have it working now but there are two issues that I seem not to be > able to solve. First compiz will start when x starts but emerald > won't start and I get no window borders and can't move them. Solution > is to open the terminal window and run emerald --replace &. Second > issue is with compiz, I open ccsm to configure my 3d effects but they > won't get saved, it will let me select them or unselect them but once > I close ccsm and run it again every change is gone and the defaults > are back. Any Ideas? Do the users have to be members of a special > group? > > I run compiz by hand, I don't need it on all the time. I will investigate these and get back to you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 07:01:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4016A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4604113C457 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1571GaJ049672; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:01:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1571GaJ049672 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47A809BC.2000608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:01:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4E314437-2B3E-4FC1-9825-5E08DA278635@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4E314437-2B3E-4FC1-9825-5E08DA278635@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:01:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5691/Tue Feb 5 02:12:57 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Tuan Ho , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:01:23 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote: >> 1/ >> As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three >> consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? > > As root, you could run: > > chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant. He wants to automatically lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password. See login.conf(5), particularly these entries: login-backoff number 3 The number of login attempts allowed before the backoff delay is inserted after each subsequent attempt. The backoff delay is the number of tries above login-backoff multiplied by 5 seconds. login-retries number 10 The number of login attempts allowed before the login fails. Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to textmode logins directly on the console. Other applications like xdm(1) have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access like ssh(1). Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 07:16:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3EE16A469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F28713C46E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Feb 2008 06:50:13 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO whitecat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 05 Feb 2008 07:50:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18h920FCGEhs7qX0hYiXIHcTsBzodttM2F/JEazNG cg8dcsZPRcEiJV Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:52:36 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080205075236.bf49173f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.10.13; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:16:59 -0000 Hi, I just checked on a clean bsd 6.3 and locate shows no xorg.conf. Maybe invoke: # xorgconfig and see where it dumps the file. Cheers herbs On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:44:30 -0600 "illoai@gmail.com" wrote: > On 04/02/2008, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Hello, > > In the online handbook, 5.4 X11 Configuration, 5.4.2 Configuring X11 > > states "As of version 7.3, Xorg can often work without any configuration file > > by simply typing at prompt: > > % startx > > > > If this does not work, or if the default configuration is not acceptable, > > then X11 must be configured manually" > > > > Where *is* this default configuration located? > > > > from man 5 xorg.conf: > > /etc/X11/ > /usr/local/etc/X11/ > /etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG > /usr/local/etc/X11/$XORGCONFIG > /etc/X11/xorg.conf-4 > /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/xorg.conf > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf. > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf-4 > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf > /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf. > /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf-4 > /usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf > > Which is unless it was changed at compile time, > which if you didn't it isn't. > > -- > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:14:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FA316A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8100D13C4D3 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m158B3fm001601; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:11:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m158Agal001597; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:10:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:10:42 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rudy Rucker In-Reply-To: <47A7A02C.70206@monkeybrains.net> Message-ID: <20080205090959.M1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A7A02C.70206@monkeybrains.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I set up gmirror for a SLICE, how do I set up the MBRs to both be bootable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:13 -0000 > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0s1 COMPLETE ad0s1 > ad8 there is definitely something wrong in this setup i thing second line should be ad8s1 not ad8! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:17:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E48116A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615D813C458 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m158Cks5001615; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:12:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m158CcxK001612; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:12:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:12:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD User In-Reply-To: <75988d070802042229h4b5c1dbfq1d93d019814f8ab6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080205091209.R1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <75988d070801300653u21137648w86bd17b2c1f212a4@mail.gmail.com> <20080130180222.GA33985@osiris.chen.org.nz> <75988d070802042229h4b5c1dbfq1d93d019814f8ab6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: 7.0 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:17:24 -0000 it is detected, but you may need to give options to moused (if you run it) to know to get usb not ps2 mouse, or in xorg.conf On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, FreeBSD User wrote: > Hi there, > > I got X working -- I went into sysinstall and installed one of the NVIDIA > drivers. > > No luck with the mouse. Here is my dmesg: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Mon Dec 24 10:10:07 UTC 2007 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (2402.42-MHz K8-class > CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Stepping = 11 > Features=0xbfebfbff ,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> > Features2=0xe3bd > AMD Features=0x20100800 > AMD Features2=0x1 > Cores per package: 4 > usable memory = 4280856576 (4082 MB) > avail memory = 4119498752 (3928 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Dec 24 2007 10:08:39) > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, cfde0000 (3) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 > acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on > acpi0 > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_perf0: on cpu0 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > est1: on cpu1 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 > device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > cpu2: on acpi0 > est2: on cpu2 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 > device_attach: est2 attach returned 6 > p4tcc2: on cpu2 > cpu3: on acpi0 > est3: on cpu3 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928 > device_attach: est3 attach returned 6 > p4tcc3: on cpu3 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > vgapci0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem > 0xe6000000-0xe6ffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe4000000-0xe5ffffff irq 16 at > device 0.0 on pci1 > uhci0: port 0xe500-0xe51f irq 16 at device > 26.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci0: [ITHREAD] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: on usb0 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 21 at device > 26.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci1: [ITHREAD] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: on usb1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0xe100-0xe11f irq 18 at device > 26.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci2: [ITHREAD] > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: on usb2 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci0: mem 0xee101000-0xee1013ff irq 18 > at device 26.7 on pci0 > ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ehci0: [ITHREAD] > usb3: EHCI version 1.0 > usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 > usb3: on ehci0 > usb3: USB revision 2.0 > uhub3: on usb3 > uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0 > pci3: on pcib3 > em0: port > 0xa000-0xa01f mem 0xe9020000-0xe903ffff,0xe9000000-0xe901ffff irq 17 at > device 0.0 on pci3 > em0: Using MSI interrupt > em0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:05:14:8e > em0: [FILTER] > pcib4: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0 > pci4: on pcib4 > atapci0: port > 0xb000-0xb007,0xb100-0xb103,0xb200-0xb207,0xb300-0xb303,0xb400-0xb40f mem > 0xee000000-0xee001fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4 > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver > atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci0 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > pcib5: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 > pci5: on pcib5 > uhci3: port 0xe200-0xe21f irq 23 at device > 29.0 on pci0 > uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci3: [ITHREAD] > usb4: on uhci3 > usb4: USB revision 1.0 > uhub4: on usb4 > uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci4: port 0xe300-0xe31f irq 19 at device > 29.1 on pci0 > uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci4: [ITHREAD] > usb5: on uhci4 > usb5: USB revision 1.0 > uhub5: on usb5 > uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci5: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 18 at device > 29.2 on pci0 > uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] > uhci5: [ITHREAD] > usb6: on uhci5 > usb6: USB revision 1.0 > uhub6: on usb6 > uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ehci1: mem 0xee100000-0xee1003ff irq 23 > at device 29.7 on pci0 > ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ehci1: [ITHREAD] > usb7: EHCI version 1.0 > usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 > usb7: on ehci1 > usb7: USB revision 2.0 > uhub7: on usb7 > uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci6: on pcib6 > ahc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem > 0xed000000-0xed000fff irq 19 at device 1.0 on pci6 > ahc0: [ITHREAD] > aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs > ahc1: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem > 0xed001000-0xed001fff irq 18 at device 1.1 on pci6 > ahc1: [ITHREAD] > aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci1: port > 0xe600-0xe607,0xe700-0xe703,0xe800-0xe807,0xe900-0xe903,0xea00-0xea1f mem > 0xee102000-0xee1027ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci1: [ITHREAD] > atapci1: AHCI Version 01.20 controller with 6 ports detected > ata5: on atapci1 > ata5: [ITHREAD] > ata6: on atapci1 > ata6: [ITHREAD] > ata7: on atapci1 > ata7: [ITHREAD] > ata8: on atapci1 > ata8: [ITHREAD] > ata9: on atapci1 > ata9: [ITHREAD] > ata10: on atapci1 > ata10: [ITHREAD] > pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) > fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 > fdc0: [FILTER] > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio0: port may not be enabled > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio0: [FILTER] > orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd1fff on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > ums0: 2.00/1.20, addr 2> on uhub4 > ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir and a TILT dir. > ukbd0: 2.00/1.73, > addr 3> on uhub4 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > uhid0: 2.00/1.73, > addr 3> on uhub4 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > hptrr: no controller detected. > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > acd0: DVDR at ata4-slave UDMA33 > ad10: 238474MB at ata5-master SATA300 > ad12: 152627MB at ata6-master SATA300 > ad14: 715403MB at ata7-master SATA300 > ad16: 715404MB at ata8-master SATA300 > ad18: 715404MB at ata9-master SATA300 > ad20: 715404MB at ata10-master SATA300 > GEOM: ad14: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ad14: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > GEOM: ad16: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ad16: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > GEOM: ad18: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ad18: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > GEOM: ad20: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: ad20: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad12s1a > > > On 1/30/08, Jonathan Chen wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:53:14AM -0500, FreeBSD User wrote: >> >> [...] >>> Problem 2: >>> I cannot get X started. I get the following errors: >>> >>> Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) >>> Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0) >>> Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0) >> >> Make sure you install X by using the meta-port x11/xorg. You'll miss >> stuff out if you install by hand. >> -- >> Jonathan Chen >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned >> at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:19:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD116A421 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DC913C46A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m158FvIY001633; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m158FtWv001630; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:15:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Francois-Xavier Charpentier de Beauville In-Reply-To: <47A7D343.1090603@charpentier-de-beauville.com> Message-ID: <20080205091416.D1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A7D343.1090603@charpentier-de-beauville.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Preserving file permissions with dump and restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:19:59 -0000 > 1) made /store pristine: newfs -U /dev/ad4s1e > 2) mounted /dev/ad4s1e on /store > 3) cd into /store > 4) ran the command: restore -r -uv -f /backup/fullbackup > 5) remove 'restoresymtable' from /store > > Thanks in advance for your help you did restore as root? (i think so but just for sure) it is something wrong with restore then, i used it many times and it restore everything. anyway - rsync is good tool to make exact copy of directory tree From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:42:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6F16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryciwemy75026@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E013C474 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryciwemy75026@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([10.4.16.24]) by bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:26:55 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:26:55 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.55.161.48 by BLU127-DAV14.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:26:51 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.55.161.48] X-Originating-Email: [ryciwemy75026@hotmail.com] X-Sender: ryciwemy75026@hotmail.com thread-index: Achn0NsJVETHZBWdQhi5jn33hmwPqA== Thread-Topic: United States Navy Tests Permanent Technologies' TineLok Fastening System From: "ryciwemy75026" To: Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:26:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2008 08:26:55.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDF7C440:01C867D0] Cc: a1x8@r.ems7.net, questions@freebsd.org, sac7@peixoto.com.br, vesna.mastalo@mae.es Subject: United States Navy Tests Permanent Technologies' TineLok Fastening System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:42:40 -0000 Just as we predicted PERT is on the move With Monday's news and possible use by the US Goverment there is nothing that should stop PERT from raelly moving You owe it to yourself to do your research here. United States Navy Tests Permanent Technologies' TineLok Fastening System TineLok Vibration-Proof Fastening System is Currently Installed for Testing on the U.S. Navy's Newest Advanced Hovercraft -- Permanent Technologies, Inc. (Pink Sheets: PERT - News) announced that the United States Navy is currently testing their TineLok Vibration-Proof Fastening System in their newest Hovercraft, the Landing Craft, Air Cushion (LCAC). The LCAC is a high-speed, over-the-beach, fully amphibious landing craft, used to transport heavy payloads of equipment (up to 75 tons), cargo and personnel from ship to shore for the Marine Air-Ground Task Force. The TineLok fasteners have been installed on the Hovercraft for almost a year and according to feedback from the Navy the fasteners have worked flawlessly to date. "We are confident that the TineLok will perform to the U.S. Navy's exacting high-vibration requirements for this strategic project," stated Loren Ball, President and CEO of Permanent Technologies, Inc. "In addition to the performance requirements, we believe TineLok also gives the Navy the ability to make repairs, adjustments and service the components in the field without any special tools -- a major feature of the TineLok System." About Permanent Technologies, Inc. Permanent Technologies is the inventor and manufacturer of the award winning TineLok Fastening System -- a family of fasteners that are designed to hold tight in the most demanding, extreme and harshest conditions, environments and applications. The TineLok Fastening System's vibration-proof, self-locking technology is an affordable alternative to traditional fasteners when increased safety, reliability, operating life and reduced maintenance is desired or required. The Company has been granted numerous patents both in the U.S. and internationally for the TineLok technology. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 09:03:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2973816A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8F913C455 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202765847.76124@2QEYpvv8+vj1IvYfEP6DQA Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m14LbPl6019294; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:37:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080204152828.024e89c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:37:10 -0600 To: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:03:31 -0000 At 02:01 PM 2/4/2008, David Banning wrote: >I run a small FreeBSD server with a standard DSL line. I have it ping >the ISP every five seconds, and when it doesn't ping it logs the >results. > >I notice very inconsistent results. Sometimes it's up for a week >without a single drop, while other times it's up for 30 seconds, >down for a minute, up for 2 minutes, down for 1. That can go on >for 10 hours, and then maybe it's stable again for a day or so. >It's always appears to be the DSL signal itself, as I can see the >modem sync light starts flashing when the signal goes down. > >To end any possibility of the phone company pointing their finger >at the wiring in my house, I put the DSL modem right at the phone >connection block where the line enters the house and then called >them. Problem persists. > >The phone company say they have replaced lines all over the >neighborhood while trying to fix the problem. Eventually the >connection becomes stable, the phone company declares that they >"found the problem", but when he's gone, the trouble starts again. > >Now knowing how common this is, I installed the same logging system >at another company's server, that is located a few miles away. Guess >what? Same drop-in drop-out problem. > >To any average computer user, these lines might appear normal - >when a page stops loading for a minute they just live with it, and >forget about it. > >So here's my question: > >1. is there anyone who has a lot of experience monitoring DSL lines > that can tell me how common this is? It is fairly common as the number of DSL providers is large, but they rely on the copper wires in place that may or may not be well maintained that are usually owned by another firm. So getting the copper actually fixed can take a lot of persistence and patience. Often these lines are from old voice circuits that were not nearly as demanding as DSL. Worse, at least around me in the midwest, often indoor boxes and such are used outside which causes a lot of issues with digital lines. >2. Is there any way to avoid it? Get all new wiring in place. >3. I have used three different DSL modems, but the are all home > quality: an Alcatel Speed Touch, a Speedstream 5260, > and a Westell Wirespeed. Would spending more money on > another type of modem help? If so, what is recommended? I'm not sure if the modems really matter as it is likely a "noisy" line either from other drops still in place, bad junctions, or just old wires getting crosstalk. Keep a log of problem times, noting the weather, time of day, and anything else that could be a factor. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. 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Buhgalteru, yuristu, `ekonomistu, studentu! Bolee 30 naimenovanij knig knig ohvatyvayut vse aspekty deyatel'nosti predpriyatiya, posvyaschennye razlichnym nalogam i sboram, otchetnosti i vedeniyu ucheta. Stoimost' kazhdogo `ekzemplyara - 20 grn. s dostavkoj! Zakazat' knigi Vy smozhete sdelat' po: telefonam: (044) 559-75-26, 592-78-58 E-mail: [1] kdb@kdb.com.ua na nashem sajte: [2] www.kdb.com.ua NALOGOOBLOZHENIE Aktual'no o naloge na pribyl' deklaracii o dohodah chastnom predprinimatele NDS edinom naloge dlya yurlic nalogovyh sporah pravah proveryayuschih UCHET I OTCHETNOST' Aktual'no o otvetstvennosti buhgaltera `elektronnoj otchetnosti analize finotchetnosti otchetnosti. Kniga 1 otchetnosti. Kniga 2 prieme i uvol'nenii ispravleniyah oshibok komandirovkah otpuskah VEDENIE HOZDEYATEL'NOSTI Aktual'no o zaschite prav potrebitelej roznichnoj torgovle legkovom avtomobile V`ED licenziyah i razresheniyah arende i lizinge patentirovanii i RRO kreditah i zajmah strahovanii filialah sozdanii predpriyatiya amortizacii i iznose SPRAVOCHNIKI Spravochnik kievskogo buhgaltera Vse P(S)BU + plan schetov Nalogovoe planirovanie: prakticheskie sovety Aktual'no o amortizacii i iznose V knige opisany vse osobennosti amortizacii osnovnyh fondov v Ukraine, dany prakticheskie rekomendacii dlya buhgalterov. V pervoj chasti knigi - otvety na 78 voprosov po amortizacii i iznosu, vtoraya chast' posvyaschena prakticheskim primeram rascheta amortizacii i iznosa i otrazhenii ih v otchetnosti. Tret'ya chast' knigi - normativnaya baza. God izdaniya: 2006. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 176. Aktual'no o patentovanii i RRO Izdanie posvyascheno aktual'nym voprosam po patentovaniyu hozyajstvennoj deyatel'nosti i ispol'zovaniyu RRO. Kazhdyj iz treh razdelov knigi uslovno razdelen na dve chasti: po patentovaniyu i RRO. Vtoraya chast' knigi otobrazhaet dokumental'noe oformlenie, uchet i otchetnost', kasayuschiesya patentovaniya i ispol'zovaniya registratorov raschetnyh operacij. God izdaniya: 2006. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 192. Aktual'no o komandirovkah V knige polnost'yu osvescheny aspekty, kasayuschiesya komandirovok. Privedeny otvety na voprosy, s kotorymi chasche vsego stalkivayutsya buhgaltery pri oformlenii komandirovok rabotnikov predpriyatij kak na territorii Ukrainy, tak i za ee granicami. V knige predostavleny primery rascheta avansov na komandirovku, na uslovnyh primerah pokazan buhgalterskij i nalogovyj uchet komandirovochnyh rashodov. God izdaniya: 2006. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o ispravleniyah oshibok Kniga sostoit iz trioh chastej. Pervaya chast' "Otvety na voprosy" knigi sostoit iz 42 voprosa i otveta na nih o vidah oshibok i poryadok i sposoby ih ispravleniya v nalogovom i buhgalterskom uchete, a takzhe otchetnosti. Vtoroj razdel "Poryadok ispravleniya oshibok v otchetnosti" vklyuchaet v sebya poryadok ispravleniya oshibok v nalogovoj otchetnosti, otchetnosti v fondy social'nogo strahovaniya, a takzhe v finansovoj otchetnosti. Tretij razdel "Normativnaya baza". God izdaniya: 2006. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 121. Aktual'no o legkovom avtomobile Avtomobil' - ne roskosh', a... osnovnoe sredstvo na predpriyatii. Kotoroe nuzhno zapravlyat', remontirovat', myt', provodit' TO. No dlya bezukariznennoj raboty avtomobilya na predpriyatii ego sleduet ne tol'ko soderzhat' v dolzhnom tehnicheskom sostoyanii - nuzhno takzhe pravil'no i svoevremenno dokumental'no oformlyat' vse `eti situacii. Kak `eto sdelat', otkuda uznat' o normativah, trebovaniyah i pravilah oformleniya - chitajte v `etoj knige. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 176. Aktual'no o V`ED Sfera V`ED, navernoe, odna iz samyh slozhnyh na segodnyashnij den'. Slozhnyh ne tol'ko dlya buhgalterov, no i dlya yuristov i dlya rukovoditelej. Ved' segodnya suschestvuet 11 odnih tal'ko tamozhennyh rezhimov, i ispol'zovanie lyubogo iz nah privodi k raznym nalogovym posledstviyam. Kakie vidy deyatel'nosti otnosyatsya k vneshne`ekonomicheskoj? Obyazano li predpriyatie otdel'no registrirovat' obosoblennoe podrazdelenie v tamozhennyh organah? V kakih sluchayah vneshne`ekonomicheskie dogovory podlezhat registracii? CHto takoe licenzirovanie i kvotirovanie v V`ED? Kakova otvetstvennost' za narushenie 90-dnevnogo sroka zachisleniya vyruchki po vneshne`ekonomicheskomu kontraktu? Otvety na `eti i drugie aktual'nye voprosy, obrazcy dokumentov, neobhodimaya normativnaya baza. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 176. Aktual'no o nalogovyh sporah Obschenie s nalogovymi organami - ne samaya priyatnaya, no neobhodimaya chast' raboty buhgaltera. Ono vklyuchaet ne tol'ko regulyarnuyu sdachu otchetnosti, no i otvety na raznoobraznye zaprosy, proverki, akty i resheniya proveryayuschih po rezul'tatam proverok. A esche - obzhalovanie reshenij nalogovyh organov; kak v administrativnom poryadke, tak i v sudebnom. Ob `etih aspektah raboty kazhdogo buhgaltera chitajte v `etoj God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no o skidkah, bonusah, akciyah Predostavlenie pokupatelyam skidok, bonusov ili zhe provedenie rekalmnyh akcij vsegda osuschestvlyaetsya s odnoj cel'yu - uvelichenie ob"emov prodazh. No, v svoyu ochered', provedenie takih meropriyatij vlechet za soboj mnozhestvo voprosov. CHto soboj predstavlyayut skidki i kakie suschestvuyut vidy skidok? CHem bonusy otlichayutsya ot skidok? Kakimi dokumentami oformlyaetsya predostavlenie skidok? Kak zaprogrammirovat' RRO v sluchae predostavleniya raznyh skidok v techenii odnogo dnya na odin i tot zhe tovar? Otvety na `eti i drugie aktula'nye voprosy; obrazcy dokumentov, kotorye yavlyayutsya obyazatel'nymi pri predostavlenii pokupatelyam skidok, bonusov ili provedenii rekamnyh akcij; neobhodimaya normativnaya baza - vse `eto knige. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 96. Aktual'no o licenziyah i razresheniyah Odnim iz vidov kontrolya deyatel'nosti predpriyatij yavlyaetsya vydacha sootvestvuyuschih licenzij i soblyudenie licenzionnyh uslovij. No sam process licenzirovaniya vyzyvaet chrezvychajno mnogo vorosov. Kakimi normativynmi dokumentami reguliruetsya licenzirovanie? Kakie vidy deyatel'nosti podlezhat obyazatel'nomu licenzirovaniyuo? Kakovy na seodnyashnij den' srok dejstviya i stoimost' licenzij? Kakov poryadok osuschestvleniya deyatel'nosti, podlezhaschej licenzirovaniyu? CHto soboj predstavlyayut razresheniya, i chem oni otlichayutsya ot licenzij? Kakov poryadok buhgalterskogo i nalogovogo ucheta licenzij i razreshenij? Otvety na 40 voprosov, obrazcy dokumentov, perechen' organov licenzirovaniya i dokumentov, predostavlyaemyh dlya polucheniya licenzij i razreshenij, neobohodimaya normativnaya baza. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no ob otvetstvennosti buhgaltera Rabota buhgaltera - `eto ne tol'ko provodki i otchetnost', pervichnaya dokumentaciya i deloproizvodstvo. Ved' imenno buhgalter neset chut' li ne naibol'shuyu otvetstvennost' za pravil'nost' otobrazheniya v uchete vseh operacij predpriyatiya. O vseh vidah otvetstvennosti buhgaltera (administrativnaya, ugolovnaya, disciplinarnaya i material'naya); o tom, kak izbezhat' nakazaniya za oshibki, kotorye buhgalter ne dopuskal; o nadezhnyh i bezopasnyh putyah minimizacii otvetstvennosti na dolzhnosti buhgaltera - chitajte v `etoj knige. Kakie osobennosti otvetstvennosti buhgaltera po sravneniyu s drugimi rabotnikami? YAvlyaetsya li buhgalter sluzhebnym licom? Za kakie narusheniya chasche vsego buhgalterov privlekayu k otvetstvennosti? Kak minimizirovat' risk privlecheniya k otvetstvennosti? CHto delat', esli protiv vas vozbudili ugolovnoe delo? Tak zhe, krome otvetov na aktual'nye voprosy, v knige est' prakticheskie sovety i shemy dejstvij, obrazcy dokumentov i normativnaya baza God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 128. Aktual'no ob arende i lizinge Vo mnogih sluchayah, osobenno na nachal'nom `etape razvitiya biznesa, ne vsegda est' vozmozhnost' priobreteniya pomescheniya, avtomobilya ili drugogo imuschestva. V takih situaciyah, konechno zhe, vse `eto prosche arendovat'. CHitajte otvety na samye slozhnye i aktual'nye voprosy, svyazannye s arendoj i lizingom: harakternye otlichiya arendy i lizinga; obyazatel'nye usloviya dogovora operativnoj arendy; notarial'noe udostoverenie dogovorov arendy; nalogovyj zalog i ob"ekty operativnoj arendy; arenda osnovnyh sredstv u fizlica; poryadok raspredeleniya kommunal'nyh platezhej pri otsutstvii sootvetstvuyuschih schetchikov; nalogovye posledstviya vozvrata ob"ektov finansovogo lizinga. V knige soderzhatsya tipovye dogovory i, konechno zhe, neobhodimye teksty dokumentov - Zakony i Metodiki raschetov. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: ukr. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no o edinom naloge (dlya yuridicheskih lic) CHast' 1. Otvety na voprosy Registraciya platel'schikov edinogo naloga; osobennosti vedeniya ucheta "edinschikami"; nalogooblozhenie otdel'nyh hozyajstvennyh operacij; otchetnost' platel'schika edinogo naloga. CHast' 2. Praktika primeneniya Poluchenie svidetel'stva ob uplate edinogo naloga; poryadok vedeniya Kingi ucheta dohodov i rashodov i kassovoj knigi; uplata edinogo naloga sub"ektami uproschennoj sistemy; predstavlenie otchetnosti i ispravlenie oshibok; otkaz ot primeneniya uproschennoj sistemy. CHast' 3. Normativnaya baza Ukaz Prezidenta Ukrainy "Ob uproschennoj sisteme nalogooblozheniya, ucheta i otchetnosti sub"ektov malogo predprinimatel'stva; Poryadok vedeniya Knigi ucheta dohodov i rashodov sub"ekta malogo predprinimatel'stva - yuridicheskogo lica; Poryadok vydachi Svidetel'stva o prave uplaty edinogo naloga sub"ektom malogo predprinimatel'stva - yuridicheskogo lica; Poryadok sostavleniya Rascheta uplaty edinogo naloga sub"ektom malogo predprinimatel'stva - yuridicheskim licom. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 128. Aktual'no ob otpuskah (2-e izdanie) Kniga sostoit iz trioh chastej. Pervaya chast' "Otvety na voprosy" - kratko i soderzhatel'no o: ezhegodnom otpuske; otpuske bez sohraneniya zarabotnoj platy; uchebnom otpuske, oplate za obuchenie; social'nyh otpuskah. Vtoroj razdel "Rekomendacii po..." imeet rekomendacii po sozdaniyu grafika otpuskov na predpriyatii, oformleniyu zayavleniya i prikaza o predostavlenii otpuska, raschetu summ ezhegodnyh otpuskov, raschetu otpusknyh v sluchae povysheniya okladov i raschetu posobiya po beremennosti. Tretij razdel "Teksty dokumentov" soderzhit neobhodimye normativno-pravovye akty, kotorye reguliruyut poryadok rascheta i oformleniya otpuskov. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 128. Aktual'no o `elektronnoj otchetnosti Voprosy podachi `elektronnoj otchetnosti - edva li ne samaya aktual'naya tema dlya buhgalterov! Nikto sejchas ne skazhet navernyaka: `elektronnaya otchetnost' - `eto shag vpered ili novaya lovushka dlya nalogoplatel'schikov. YAvlyaetsya li `elektronnaya otchetnost' obyazatel'noj? V chem plyusy i minusy `elektronnoj otchetnosti? Kak pravil'no oformit' `elektronnyj dokument na predpriyatii? Otvety na voprosy, obrazcy dokumentov, instrukcii po pol'zovaniyu programmami, normativnaya baza - vse neobhodimoe sobrano v knige izdatel'stva God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o NDS (3-e izdanie) CHast' 1. Otvety na voprosy Registraciya platel'schika NDS; ob"ekt i baza oblozheniya NDS; l'goty i osvobozhdennye ot NDS operacii; nalogovyj kredit i nalogovye obyazatel'stva; oformlenie nalogovyh nakladnyh; otchetnost' po NDS, nalogovye nakladnye i reestry v `elektronnom vide. CHast' 2. Rekomendacii po zapolneniyu: Deklaracii po NDS i prilozhenij k nej; utochnyayuschih raschetov; nalogovoj nakladnoj i prilozhenij k nej; Reestra poluchennyh i vydannyh nalogovyh nakladnyh. CHast' 3. Buhuchet NDS Instrukciya o primenenii Plana schetov (izvlechenie); Instrukciya o buhgalterskom uchetu NDS; Pravila ucheta naloga na dobavlennuyu stoimost'. CHast' 4. Teksty dokumentov Poryadok zapolneniya i podachi nalogovoj deklaracii po NDS; sbornik informacionnyh materialov po voprosam sostavleniya i podachi deklaracii po NDS God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 176. Aktual'no o chastnom predprinimatele CHast' 1. Otvety na voprosy poryadok registracii fizlica v kachestve sub"ekta predprinimatel'skoj deyatel'nosti; nalogooblozhenie chastnogo predprinimatelya na obschej sisteme; nalogooblozhenie chastnogo predprinimatelya na edinom naloge; vnesenie izmenenij v dokumenty: smena adresa, vidov deyatel'nosti i t.d.; otvetstvennost' fizlica-SPD; prekraschenie predprinimatel'skoj deyatel'nosti. CHast' 2. Shemy dejstvij nachinaem deyatel'nost' kak chastnyj predprinimatel'; izmenyaem mesto prozhivaniya i poluchaem novoe svidetel'stvo; prekraschaem predprinimatel'skuyu deyatel'nost'. CHast' 3. Normativnaya baza izvlecheniya iz Grazhdanskogo i Hozyajstvennogo Kodeksov; Zakon Ukrainy "O gosudarstvennoj registracii yuridicheskih lic i fizli-predprinimatelej"; Ukaz Prezidenta "O uproschennoj sisteme nalogooblozheniya, ucheta i otchetnosti sub"ektov malogo predprinimatel'stva". God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no o naloge na pribyl' CHast' 1. Otvety na voprosy Platel'schiki naloga na pribyl'. Poslednie izmeneniya v nalogooblozhenii pribyli. Otrazhenie otdel'nyh operacij v nalogovom uchete i v Deklaracii. Osobennosti oformleniya i podachi Deklaracii po nalogu na pribyl'. Ispravlenie oshibok. Deklaraciya po nalogu na pribyl' za 11 mesyacev. CHast' 2. Rekomendacii po zapolneniyu Oformlenie i podacha Deklaracii: obschie polozheniya. Zapolnyaem Deklaraciyu po nalogu na pribyl' predpriyatiya. Zapolnyaem prilozheniya k Deklaracii. Formy otchetnyh dokumentov s rasshifrovkoj poryadka zapolneniya osnovnyh pokazatelej. CHast' 3. Buhuchet Vremennye i postoyannye raznicy. Otrazhenie raznic v uchete i otchetnosti. Obobschenie i uproschenie raschetov. CHast' 4. Dokumenty Poryadok sostavleniya deklaracii po nalogu na pribyl' deklaracii po nalogu na pribyl' predpriyatiya. Utverzhden prikazom GNA Ukrainy ot 29.03.2003 g. No.143. Sbornik informacionnyh materialov po voprosa sostavleniya i podachi deklaracii po nalogu na pribyl'. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 176. Aktual'no o deklaracii o dohodah CHast' 1. Otvety na voprosy Kto i kogda podaet deklaraciyu o dohodah. Nalogovaya social'naya l'gota: komu i skol'ko polagaetsya. Sroki uplaty naloga i ego vozvrata. Otrazhenie v Deklaracii otdel'nyh vidov dohodov. CHast' 2. Rekomendacii po zapolneniyu Knigi ucheta dohodov i rashodov. Deklaracii o dohodah i prilozhenij k nej. Formy No.1-DF. Otchetnosti po vyplachennym dividendam. CHast' 3. Dokumenty Zakon Ukrainy "O naloge s dohodov fizicheskih lic" No. 889. Instrukciya o nalogooblozhenii dohodov fizlic ot zanyatiya predprinimatel'skoj deyatel'nost'yu No.12 i dr. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 160. Aktual'no ob analize finotchetnosti Novaya kniga Rimmy Grachevoj! Naskol'ko rentabel'nyj vash biznes? Kak bystro ocenit' `ekonomicheskoe sostoyanie predpriyatiya? CHto na samom dele skryvaetsya za suhimi ciframi Balansa i Otcheta o finansovyh rezul'tatah? Vse `eto vy mozhete ponyat', poschitat' i ob"yasnit' ponyatnym chelovecheskim yazykom komu ugodno: direktoru, investoru ili svoemu kollege-buhgalteru! Dostatochno znat', chto takoe aktivy, i obyazatel'stva; ponimat', iz chego sostoyat stroki finansovyh otchetov i... prochitat' `etu knigu! God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 128. Aktual'no o otchetnosti. Kniga 1 Kniga vklyuchaet otchetnost' po: nalogu na pribyl', NDS, edinomu nalogu i formu No. 1DF. Po vyshe ukazannym nalogam i forme No. 1DF navedeny obschie polozheniya, poryadok podachi, poryadok zapolneniya i formy raschetov, a takzhe metody ispravleniya oshibok God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o otchetnosti. Kniga 2 Informaciya v knige podana v dvuh razdelah. Pervyj razdel posvyaschennyj finansovoj otchetnosti: poryadok i sroki ee podachi; poryadok zapolneniya vseh form finansovoj otchetnosti; proverka dostovernosti pokazatelej v formah otchetnosti; ispravlenie oshibok; otvetstvennost'. Vtoroj razdel vklyuchaet poryadok zapolneniya vseh form otchetnosti po social'nom strahovanii God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no o prieme i uvol'nenii V knige sobrany otvety na voprosy otnositel'no osobennostej zaklyucheniya trudovogo dogovora, kontrakta i soglasheniya, garantij pri prieme rabotnikov na rabotu; soderzhatsya obrazcy tipovyh trudovyh dogovorov (kontraktov), pervichnyh dokumentov i otchetnosti po priemu i uvol'neniyu rabotnikov; privedeny rekomendacii otnositel'no vedeniya trudovyh knizhek i t.d. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o pravah proveryayuschih Pervyj razdel knigi vklyuchaet sleduyuschie voprosy: prava otdel'nyh kontroliruyuschih organov; forma i poryadok vedeniya zhurnala registracii proverok; oformlenie rezul'tatov proverok i osobennosti ih provedeniya; otvetstvennost' nalogoplatel'schikov. Vtoroj razdel knigi vklyuchaet detal'nyj perechen' kontroliruyuschih organov s ukazaniem: normativno-pravovyh dokumentov, prav i polnomochij dolzhestnyh lic, vidov i osobennostej proverok, oformleniya rezul'tatov proverok. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 128. Aktual'no o kreditah i zajmah V knige- otvety na voprosy otnositel'no suti kreditov i zajmov, o komisiyah kotorye mozhet vzymat' bank pri vydache kredita, nalogooblozheniya kreditov i zajmov, dokumental'nomu oformleniyu kreitnyh operacij, uchetu finansovyh kreditov, zajmov, zaloga, tovarnogo kredita i t.d. Pervyj razdel soderzhit 37 otvetov na voprosy otnositel'no suti kreditov i zajmov, polucheniya (vydachi) kreditov (zajmov), nalogooblozheniya i ucheta kreditnyh sredstv i t.p. Vtoroj razdel - dokumental'noe oformlenie kreditnyh operacij (kredita, procentov), nalogovyj i buh-galterskij uchet finansovyh kreditov, zaloga, tovarnogo kredita, zaema poluchennogo rabotnikom predpriyatiya, vozvratnoj finansovoj pomoschi poluchennoj predpriyatiem. V tret'em razdele: Izvlechenie s Grazhdanskogo kodeksa Ukrainy ot 01.01.2003 g. No. 435-IV, Zakonov Ukrainy "O finansovyh uslugah i gosudarstvennom regulirovanii rynkov finansovyh uslug" ot 12.07.2001 g. No. 2664-III, "O zaloge" ot 02.10.1992 g. No. 2654-XII, "Ob ipotechnom kreditovanii, operaci yah s konsolidirovannym ipotechnym God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o strahovanii Kniga o social'nom strhovanii v Ukraine. Pervyj razdel soderzhit 70 otvetov na voprosy otnositel'no pensionnogo strahovaniya, strahovaniya po vremennoj utrate trudosposobnosti, na sluchaj bezraboticy, ot neschastnogo sluchaya na proizvodstve i t.p. Vtoroj razdel - rekomendacii po zapolneniyu raschetnogo listka rabotnika pri predostavlenii emu otpuska, poryadku rascheta srednednevnoj zarplaty, osobennostyah zapolneniya rascheta, predstavlyaemogo v PFU, raschetnyh vedomostej, predstavlyaemyh v FSS po VUT, v fond zanyatosti i v FSS ot neschastnogo sluchaya. V tret'em razdele: Zakony Ukrainy "Ob obscheobyazatel'nom gosudarstvennom social'nom strahovanii na sluchaj bezraboticy", "Ob obscheobyazatel'nom gosudarstvennom social'nom strahovanii v svyazi s vremennoj utratoj trudosposobnosti i rashodami, obuslovlennymi rozhdeniem i pogrebeniem", "Ob obscheobyazatel'nom gosu-darstvennom pensionnom strahovanii", "Ob obscheobyazatel'nom gosudarstvennom social'nom strahovanii ot neschastnogo sluchaya na proizvodstve i profes sional'nogo zabolevaniya, kotorye God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 144. Aktual'no o filialah Kniga vklyuchaet v sebya otvety na voprosy o sozdanii (zakrytii) filialov, ih deyatel'nosti, nalogooblozhenii i otchetnosti filialov i golovnyh predpriyatij. Takzhe detal'no opisano dokumental'noe oformleniya i uchet v `etih vzaimosvyazanyh predpriyatiyah. Tretij razdel sostoit iz podpoborki osnovnyh normativnyh dokumentov po temateke knigi. God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus. K-vo stranic: 112. Aktual'no o sozdanii predpriyatiya `Eta kniga - dlya vseh, kto reshil nachat' svoj biznes: sozdat' predpriyatie ili zaregistrirovat'sya chastnym predprinimatelem. Perva chast' "Otvety na voprosy" soderzhit 70 otvetov na voprosy sozdaniya sobstvennogo dela, registracii ustavnyh dokumentov i izmeneij k nim, osobennostej osuschestvleniya i prekrascheniya hozajstvennoj deyatel'nosti. Vo vtoroj chasti "Algoritmy i shemy dejstvij" v naglyadnyh shemah opisany dejstviya pri registracii fizicheskogo lica-SPD i yuridicheskogo lica; vnesenii razlichnyh izmeneij v dokumenty; prekraschenii deyatel'nosti. Tret'ya chast' "Normativnaya baza" soderzhit izvlecheniya iz samyh vazhnyh, dlya predprinimatelya, normativnyh dokumentov God izdaniya: 2007. YAzyk: rus.,ukr. K-vo stranic: 160. 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In order for it to remain active, please Use the button below to Activate and Access your Account Activate References Visible links 1. http://www.natwest.com/ Hidden links: 2. http://www.photosthroughirisheyes.com/g2data555/plugins_data/Login.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 10:13:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FC916A469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856FB13C455 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15AAEn9002362; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:10:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m15AA8kI002359; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:10:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:10:08 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080204152828.024e89c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Message-ID: <20080205110921.F2339@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <6.0.0.22.2.20080204152828.024e89c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:13:52 -0000 > It is fairly common as the number of DSL providers is large, but they rely on > the copper wires in place that may or may not be well maintained that are > usually owned by another firm. So getting the copper actually fixed can take in Polish "free market" polish telecom leases line to anyone - at prices higher than their DSL service... ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 10:29:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7971416A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D65C13C46B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JMKUk-0006EK-D7; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:53:38 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.18] ([83.141.106.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m15A3XIM062433; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:03:33 GMT (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: <0B902504-5804-4D5E-B807-3295CE3E5633@cooperationireland.org> From: Michael Doyle To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <47A78854.701@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:04:55 +0000 References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <47A78854.701@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/5692/Tue Feb 5 07:21:55 2008 on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: fdf78db5fd67aa5e2ef0eb72895a2f6a Cc: David Banning , tundra@tundraware.com Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:29:36 -0000 On 4 Feb 2008, at 21:49, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > David Banning wrote: > >> 2. Is there any way to avoid it? > > Yes - switch to different fabric. I live near a large metro area, > and the local cable company finally figured out that there was > money to be made offering their very fast/reliable cable service > to businesses. For $10/mo *less* than I was paying for > 1.5/384 DSL with 8 static IPs, I now get 6.0/1.5 w/5 static IPs > from Comcast. My only regret is that I could not continue to > do business with Speakeasy, which is hands down the best ISP > I've ever seen. The Comcast package has thus far (about 4 months) > been flawless. They have a separate support group for business > customers, they handled my reverse DNS perfectly and promptly, > and - if I remain on the local backbone for testing - the system > actually peaks to over 20Mb/sec. > > If you're not too far away from the CO you can try adsl2, > but if your copper is lousy for dsl, it will be lousy for > that as well. In both the UK and Ireland, one of the available "different fabric" solutions is broadband over a "wireless" connection using point-to-point radio or microwave connections with dishes mounted on the outside of the building. These rely on line of sight to the ISPs mast, and are therefore typically available only in large urban areas, but where they are available, I have found them to be more reliable than DSL. Personal experience: using them in several sites in the greater Dublin area (Ireland) and in the Belfast area (UK) for my company and our staff members who work from home. Additional benefits of this type of connection is that it is symmetrical (same upload and download speed) and, in the UK and Ireland at least, comes with with a fixed IP address as standard. (I have a friend in Kosovo who has the same technology deployed with private IP address ranges, so that does depend on your ISP) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 11:38:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8E816A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB14813C474 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15BYS7F002625; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:34:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m15BYLWU002622; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:34:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:34:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Michael Doyle In-Reply-To: <0B902504-5804-4D5E-B807-3295CE3E5633@cooperationireland.org> Message-ID: <20080205123337.V2621@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <47A78854.701@tundraware.com> <0B902504-5804-4D5E-B807-3295CE3E5633@cooperationireland.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: David Banning , tundra@tundraware.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:38:00 -0000 > available only in large > urban areas, but where they are available, I have found them to be more > reliable than DSL. only with point-to-point case, and only if local law doesn't work the way to prevent this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 11:55:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572DB16A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC56B13C46A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m15BHsWA053236 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:17:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:17:54 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:17:54 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:55:25 -0000 I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to a very small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts processing with the error MemoryError : out of memory After talking on the Mailman list, the advice was that python and Mailman are just returning the fact that enough memory can't be allocated, and it could be a FreeBSD problem. Specifically, > MemoryError is beyond the control of both Mailman and Python. Python is > requesting additional memory form the OS for the process and is being > denied. This is some kind of hardware or OS limitation. It could be > that the OS itself is running out of real or virtual memory or the > process is running into some process limit. This is a FreeBSD question. and some sympathy in that > 500KB is not a big message. This should not be happening. I am only > guessing, but I think there must be some per-process memory limitation > in your OS that is set way too low. I have run memtest previously and found no problems, also no problems when upgrading ports or world, so I believe the RAM is ok. The machine is otherwise lightly loaded. Although I believe I have a very vanilla flavored FreeBSD machine, I probably have some setting or parameter incorrectly set. Any hints on how to debug this problem and where to look at? Machine Details (i386, 1G RAM) ========================== # sysctl -a | grep version kern.version: FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Jan 2 18:46:42 JST 2008 # sysctl -a | grep mem memdesc 1 4K - 1 4096 vm.kmem_size: 335544320 vm.kmem_size_max: 335544320 vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 hw.physmem: 1052151808 hw.usermem: 881700864 hw.realmem: 1065287680 # limits Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kB datasize 524288 kB stacksize 65536 kB coredumpsize infinity kB memoryuse infinity kB memorylocked infinity kB maxprocesses 5547 openfiles 11095 sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kB For memory problems it seems that vmstat is used, so I'll include output when the problem occurs (i.e. sending a large attachment) and also when sending a normal mail to exactly the same list. As far as I can see, there seems to be plenty of physical memory available in both cases. vmstat when problem occurs* (receiving large attachment in mail) ======================================================== procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad4 cd0 in sy cs us sy id 1 3 0 355056 225104 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 137 275 344 0 1 99 0 3 0 355056 225104 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 154 444 379 0 3 97 0 3 0 355056 225104 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 157 419 387 0 2 98 0 3 0 355056 225104 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 165 459 404 1 1 99 0 3 0 355056 225100 186 0 0 0 138 0 3 0 185 543 451 0 1 99 0 3 0 355056 225100 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 196 465 467 0 3 97 0 3 0 356044 224556 341 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 203 980 482 0 3 97 0 3 0 356068 224332 141 0 0 0 103 0 1 0 643 1775 1356 0 1 99 0 3 0 356068 224080 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 714 1673 1504 1 1 97 0 3 0 356068 223872 127 0 0 0 103 0 1 0 729 1854 1527 1 4 95 0 3 0 356068 223664 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 735 1675 1545 0 2 98 0 3 0 355060 223340 2850 0 0 0 2898 0 38 0 307 5751 1055 13 6 81 *1 3 0 355140 223168 11192 0 0 0 10850 0 6 0 244 17322 821 63 17 20 0 3 0 354688 223524 917 0 0 0 981 0 3 0 196 668 473 1 4 95 0 3 0 354688 223524 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 162 407 399 0 1 99 0 3 1 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 166 312 415 0 1 99 1 3 0 354688 223524 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 163 423 400 0 2 98 0 3 0 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 149 324 372 0 1 99 0 3 0 354688 223524 0 0 0 0 4 0 7 0 166 271 411 0 1 99 0 3 0 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 170 305 410 1 1 98 vmstat output when no problem** doing the same task ============================================== procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad4 cd0 in sy cs us sy id 1 3 0 354688 224360 211 0 0 0 181 1 0 0 126 544 335 2 1 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 96 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 147 412 365 1 1 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 146 447 367 0 1 99 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 154 598 383 0 1 99 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 2 0 162 462 400 1 4 96 0 3 0 354688 224360 0 0 0 0 4 0 6 0 159 281 397 0 1 99 0 2 1 354688 224360 318 0 0 0 247 0 0 0 171 688 425 0 1 99 0 2 1 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 169 409 411 1 1 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 170 464 427 0 2 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 151 548 374 1 1 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 150 445 375 0 2 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 144 403 356 0 1 99 0 3 0 354688 224360 34 0 0 0 34 0 4 0 156 323 401 0 2 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 178 555 425 0 2 98 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 171 456 417 1 1 97 0 3 0 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 175 406 417 1 1 98 0 3 0 354688 224344 1775 0 0 0 1614 0 18 0 246 5384 649 6 5 89 1 4 0 366760 214072 2959 0 0 0 293 0 22 0 260 8265 698 35 4 61 **1 4 0 396320 186384 7154 0 0 0 203 0 8 0 248 13599 615 87 13 0 0 4 0 398500 184404 683 0 0 0 148 0 8 0 181 1634 439 53 3 44 0 4 0 398500 184396 37 0 0 0 35 0 0 0 170 347 407 0 2 98 0 4 0 398536 184376 98 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 168 537 411 0 1 99 0 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 156 520 393 0 1 99 0 4 0 398536 184376 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 159 536 389 1 1 98 1 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 3 0 166 448 411 0 1 99 0 4 0 398536 184376 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 151 414 372 0 1 99 0 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 153 437 373 1 1 98 0 4 0 398536 184376 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 157 550 393 0 3 97 0 4 0 398544 184368 130 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 178 545 428 1 1 97 0 4 0 399100 184184 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 163 379 397 0 1 99 Regards, Lachlan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 11:57:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2058F16A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EA513C459 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72B3164204 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from bsdbob.localdomain (unknown [69.134.35.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D1023E4C0; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:34:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:34:45 -0500 From: Chess Griffin To: herbert langhans Message-ID: <20080205063445.75377658@bsdbob.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20080205075236.bf49173f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> References: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080205075236.bf49173f.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/70JUx0xEO8F8i8Z5ykQLwSs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 11:57:03 -0000 --Sig_/70JUx0xEO8F8i8Z5ykQLwSs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:52:36 +0100 herbert langhans wrote: > Hi, > I just checked on a clean bsd 6.3 and locate shows no xorg.conf. > Maybe invoke: > # xorgconfig > and see where it dumps the file. >=20 > Cheers > herbs >=20 As another poster mentioned, I think the whole idea behind Xorg 7.3 is that there is _no_ xorg.conf by default and, often times, it is never needed. Xorg now tries to autodetect your hardware and configure a working setup on the fly with no xorg.conf. This autodetection usually works well; if it doesn't, go through the traditional steps of creating an xorg.conf manually and move it to /etc/X11. So, on a clean install with Xorg 7.3 there will be no xorg.conf file yet 'startx' might work in many cases due to this new autodetection and aut= oconfiguration. --=20 Chess Griffin GPG Public Key: 0x0C7558C3 http://www.chessgriffin.com --Sig_/70JUx0xEO8F8i8Z5ykQLwSs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHqEndKzd9mAx1WMMRAjKDAKCAOQqR0SUjiYysZUNu8afKlb6iQACcCz24 Ybgdy0vOcVZkscy4btDsm8U= =Mlia -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/70JUx0xEO8F8i8Z5ykQLwSs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 12:05:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D2E16A46B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C276A13C45B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893233F61B4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:05:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (ron34-3-82-236-236-194.fbx.proxad.net [82.236.236.194]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6127D3F6167 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:05:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15C5DBX002885 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:05:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: (from michael@localhost) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m15C5CQS002884; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:05:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) X-Authentication-Warning: Llea.celt.neu: michael set sender to michael.grunewald@laposte.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: michael.grunewald@laposte.net (=?iso-8859-15?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <86sl07y5fr.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Best practices for managing tweaked ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:05:33 -0000 Dear FreeBSD folks, I am seeking for a word in advice in how to automatically tweak some applications, possibly making packages for them. Long version: The XDM software provides an example to illustrate the issues: I have written scripts and configuration files that tweaked XDM to my fancy, and I wonder how use them to a large (large has a magnitude of 2 :) ) scale. The current solution is: I have a post install shell script that plugs my files into appropriate location. This works but there is two drawbacks: 1. I have to run that post install shell script on each targetted machine; 2. The home-made files are alien to package management tools, and cause (little) trouble int package management tools operation. Here are solutions I envisaged, I would like to know about pitfalls, recommendations, user experience, etc., with these: 1. I do use portupgrade, so I could use A/B (afterinstall, beforebuild) switches, hooks in pkgtools.conf as a base for a simple `port tweaking framework'. This would however not produce packages with tweakings wired in. 2. I could prepare ports dedicated to tweaking, i.e. a port that installs nothing but configuration files. I am afraid this cannot be done in a straightforward manner, since a given file (say /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources) cannot be managed by two packages (the one made from the original XDM, and the one made from the XDM tweaker port) . 3. I could prepare a port derived from the original XDM port, that adds any tweaking, and play with pkgtools.conf to remap port dependencies adequately. As stated in the introduction, I would be very glad to get your advices, from your direct experience in this topic as well as `a priori'. --=20 Many thanks for your attention. Cheers, Micha=EBl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 12:24:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7916A46D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BB513C4CE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2884630fka.11 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr15241818bue.35.1202214264998; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm8116955gve.5.2008.02.05.04.24.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:24:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:24:09 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080205072409.73621f48@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802041930y1b209944ice740f47d006cf83@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041930y1b209944ice740f47d006cf83@mail.gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/EanK2wiZV5gz19QEqNaTB1n"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:24:31 -0000 --Sig_/EanK2wiZV5gz19QEqNaTB1n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:30:47 -0500 "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008 2:41 PM, Mel > wrote: >=20 > > On Monday 04 February 2008 19:36:17 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > > > > > well actually, even the sample applications seem to have the same > > problem, > > > So I'm guessing its some installation issue: > > > > > > # cc dns.c > > > /var/tmp//ccImyVt1.o(.text+0x88) : In function 'main' : : > > > undefined reference to 'libnet_init' > > > > > > This is how my compilation result reads for the dns.c sample > > application. > > > Says the same for all libnet calls. > > > > Linking 101. If you used the port (/usr/ports/net/libnet) then: > > > > cc -L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 -lnet dns.c > > > > or: > > cat <BSDmakefile > > PROG=3Ddns > > LDADD=3D-lnet > > LDFLAGS+=3D-L/usr/local/lib/libnet11 > > > > .include > > EOF > > > > then type make :) > > -- > > Mel > Sorry I'm not getting this....... >=20 > what did u want me to try ? > I'm not using the ports collection and have installed libnet 1.1.2.1 > in root. > Did u say I had to add these lines to the make-file of my app.c > sample file or to the BSD make-file in usr/share/mk or is it > something else ? .........also my /usr/local/lib doesnt have any > lib11 file like that. Just wanted to understand it before I tried it. Please don't "top post". If you don't know what that means, Google for it. Is there any specific reason you choose not to use the ports system to install 'libnet'? It is available! --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Best of all is never to have been born. Second best is to die soon. --Sig_/EanK2wiZV5gz19QEqNaTB1n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkeoVWoACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMm1nACg1pxnKSVBObO/4r3cjjMfCqeW ZkUAnjoFKus3QrjV8xfOemd8azB9jFm+ =LwnW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/EanK2wiZV5gz19QEqNaTB1n-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 12:27:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852CB16A468 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loc.hello@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D2013C51E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loc.hello@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3741956pyb.10 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:27:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=OxFJulKyXt3JnobVK2zJks6ii6+Jp5nwIEDUmQiXaCk=; b=pmSffdi2NRtdeluqx+Wj8QRu4lmwj3J/9jgrfTqTR1YhLt0j0yrP0fYeTN6emwP79XI8Box7lUQ4Y0WR72yzwbRr1yR6MxERy416a7vG+ClX1tqbzipvCNCT1v/tYusnwGaAU1Jy89GplvwFKnUcvxIEjbo/1ZhXgamSEJp+45M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=q9JkwZBm3PJpUYGvcfoHAhiH0QxqtPamkrfXhMflA+FUSRD9CHVkuC05tHOH7iCK4hKHuVgZQ9Vd6Wv5GBHekkkAGHOgnSL18WfLNFEosbY0eIYQYB0zpYbOffOildSn+mX9LnaBmuj59p/AaeJXsT1YiVhDdoHUIi9vTIR5C+w= Received: by 10.64.24.20 with SMTP id 20mr15394845qbx.64.1202213033323; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.96.2 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:03:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7d4569950802050403t3e0ee929n5383c3bec04f241f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:33:53 +0530 From: "lokesh babu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: problem while upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:27:55 -0000 hi, I have older version of my apllication installed say 2.0, now i want to install 3.0 version. 1. Is there any way to upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0(pkg_upgrade command is not found on freebsd6.2). 2. Is uninstallation of 2.0 and installation of 3.0 the only way i can upgrade to 3.0. Thanks, lokesh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 12:49:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A6E16A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1507213C45A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so221551uge.37 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:48:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gk4rDJUsgt2HWMViM7NM7HtpsIwsJrgZEdZ/i96Jzcw=; b=BDMJDEBwPxzftjGXuVu0O//sMLveP0aF5rgWNzkDNT0fQ8mZMMV/AW2E1obJ4PDezCiOwCsOgwZD0pkDiUvIIHZfi0cgTPMTaChov4bVMCCE88VkpWExBN99wAAdxcwFIIpPFRcPU+xwuk2b//ZYY3iqLcMRzQ0fjoYkF1bRgxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U5ufL1FzH0+xRTPRXRAqwnNw7cr5GoqaIqpx/zdNZBIf36bO4QdnUy+l6+tMTxhgrHVWVMhJjjctNv0jgkcIgk/xhV69gYAEsigie+UrsULvAOjTJ9N3pnSXC8NSyIOWFi2AcMLntpAJShBNXPxEPnoD+XlwKpRQpmQOZM7LurA= Received: by 10.78.200.20 with SMTP id x20mr14678042huf.16.1202214210547; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.151.2 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:23:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802050423k2b8ebb9es58c7619e8e9de3ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:23:30 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: lachlan@lkla.org In-Reply-To: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:49:00 -0000 Hello, Barry just answered on Mailman list saying that the memory fault may be in Python for that matter.... [quote] > Now to just work out the root cause of the memory errors ... It's important to remember that Python's email parsing code sucks the entire message text into memory and keeps large attachments in memory after parsing too. There could be a number of problems associated with this, including a memory leak that causes the raw text to be kept even after parsing, or that the attachment is just to big to be kept in memory after parsing. There have been talks over the years about how to modify the email package's api's so that it would be possible to store large attachments in a separate file outside of core memory, but this has yet to be done. Now would be a good time to look into it again, if we have any hopes of getting something like this into Python 2.6 and 3.0. However, this isn't the right place to discuss such changes -- those should happen on Python's email sig: http://www.python.org/sigs/email-sig Cheers, - -Barry [/quote] Zbigniew Szalbot 2008/2/5, Lachlan Michael : > I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. > > When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to a very > small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts processing > with the error > MemoryError : out of memory > > After talking on the Mailman list, the advice was that python and Mailman > are just returning the fact that enough memory can't be allocated, and it > could be a FreeBSD problem. Specifically, > > > MemoryError is beyond the control of both Mailman and Python. Python is > > requesting additional memory form the OS for the process and is being > > denied. This is some kind of hardware or OS limitation. It could be > > that the OS itself is running out of real or virtual memory or the > > process is running into some process limit. This is a FreeBSD question. > > and some sympathy in that > > > 500KB is not a big message. This should not be happening. I am only > > guessing, but I think there must be some per-process memory limitation > > in your OS that is set way too low. > > I have run memtest previously and found no problems, also no problems when > upgrading ports or world, so I believe the RAM is ok. The machine is > otherwise lightly loaded. > > Although I believe I have a very vanilla flavored FreeBSD machine, I > probably have some setting or parameter incorrectly set. Any hints on how > to debug this problem and where to look at? > > Machine Details (i386, 1G RAM) > ========================== > # sysctl -a | grep version > kern.version: FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Jan 2 18:46:42 JST 2008 > # sysctl -a | grep mem > memdesc 1 4K - 1 4096 > vm.kmem_size: 335544320 > vm.kmem_size_max: 335544320 > vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 > > hw.physmem: 1052151808 > hw.usermem: 881700864 > hw.realmem: 1065287680 > > # limits > Resource limits (current): > cputime infinity secs > filesize infinity kB > datasize 524288 kB > stacksize 65536 kB > coredumpsize infinity kB > memoryuse infinity kB > memorylocked infinity kB > maxprocesses 5547 > openfiles 11095 > sbsize infinity bytes > vmemoryuse infinity kB > > For memory problems it seems that vmstat is used, so I'll include output > when the problem occurs (i.e. sending a large attachment) and also when > sending a normal mail to exactly the same list. As far as I can see, there > seems to be plenty of physical memory available in both cases. > > vmstat when problem occurs* (receiving large attachment in mail) > ======================================================== > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad4 cd0 in sy cs us sy id > 1 3 0 355056 225104 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 137 275 344 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 355056 225104 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 154 444 379 0 3 97 > 0 3 0 355056 225104 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 157 419 387 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 355056 225104 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 165 459 404 1 1 99 > 0 3 0 355056 225100 186 0 0 0 138 0 3 0 185 543 451 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 355056 225100 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 196 465 467 0 3 97 > 0 3 0 356044 224556 341 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 203 980 482 0 3 97 > 0 3 0 356068 224332 141 0 0 0 103 0 1 0 643 1775 1356 0 > 1 99 > 0 3 0 356068 224080 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 714 1673 1504 1 > 1 97 > 0 3 0 356068 223872 127 0 0 0 103 0 1 0 729 1854 1527 1 > 4 95 > 0 3 0 356068 223664 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 735 1675 1545 0 > 2 98 > 0 3 0 355060 223340 2850 0 0 0 2898 0 38 0 307 5751 1055 13 > 6 81 > *1 3 0 355140 223168 11192 0 0 0 10850 0 6 0 244 17322 821 > 63 17 20 > 0 3 0 354688 223524 917 0 0 0 981 0 3 0 196 668 473 1 4 95 > 0 3 0 354688 223524 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 162 407 399 0 1 99 > 0 3 1 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 166 312 415 0 1 99 > 1 3 0 354688 223524 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 163 423 400 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 149 324 372 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 354688 223524 0 0 0 0 4 0 7 0 166 271 411 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 354688 223524 34 0 0 0 34 0 0 0 170 305 410 1 1 98 > > vmstat output when no problem** doing the same task > ============================================== > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad4 cd0 in sy cs us sy id > 1 3 0 354688 224360 211 0 0 0 181 1 0 0 126 544 335 2 1 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 96 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 147 412 365 1 1 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 146 447 367 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 154 598 383 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 2 0 162 462 400 1 4 96 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 0 0 0 0 4 0 6 0 159 281 397 0 1 99 > 0 2 1 354688 224360 318 0 0 0 247 0 0 0 171 688 425 0 1 99 > 0 2 1 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 169 409 411 1 1 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 170 464 427 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 151 548 374 1 1 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 150 445 375 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 144 403 356 0 1 99 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 34 0 0 0 34 0 4 0 156 323 401 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 178 555 425 0 2 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 127 0 0 0 103 0 0 0 171 456 417 1 1 97 > 0 3 0 354688 224360 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 175 406 417 1 1 98 > 0 3 0 354688 224344 1775 0 0 0 1614 0 18 0 246 5384 649 6 > 5 89 > 1 4 0 366760 214072 2959 0 0 0 293 0 22 0 260 8265 698 35 4 61 > **1 4 0 396320 186384 7154 0 0 0 203 0 8 0 248 13599 615 87 > 13 0 > 0 4 0 398500 184404 683 0 0 0 148 0 8 0 181 1634 439 53 3 44 > 0 4 0 398500 184396 37 0 0 0 35 0 0 0 170 347 407 0 2 98 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 98 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 168 537 411 0 1 99 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 156 520 393 0 1 99 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 159 536 389 1 1 98 > 1 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 3 0 166 448 411 0 1 99 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 93 0 0 0 69 0 0 0 151 414 372 0 1 99 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 128 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 153 437 373 1 1 98 > 0 4 0 398536 184376 186 0 0 0 138 0 0 0 157 550 393 0 3 97 > 0 4 0 398544 184368 130 0 0 0 104 0 0 0 178 545 428 1 1 97 > 0 4 0 399100 184184 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 163 379 397 0 1 99 > > Regards, > > Lachlan > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 14:15:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691A016A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48C13C4DB for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cele.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.172]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m15EFFOD011773 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47A86F9C.7020502@brianwhalen.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:15:56 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7d4569950802050403t3e0ee929n5383c3bec04f241f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d4569950802050403t3e0ee929n5383c3bec04f241f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem while upgrading X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:15:18 -0000 lokesh babu wrote: > hi, > > I have older version of my apllication installed say 2.0, now i want > to install 3.0 version. > > > 1. Is there any way to upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0(pkg_upgrade command is > not found on freebsd6.2). > 2. Is uninstallation of 2.0 and installation of 3.0 the only way i can > upgrade to 3.0. > > > Thanks, > lokesh. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you have many other packages installed, then it may be worth it to use portsnap to get yourself a ports tree, then portupgrade to upgrade the port. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 14:52:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7300F16A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwhess@banishedsouls.org) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3129F13C45D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwhess@banishedsouls.org) Received: from [70.238.148.236] (helo=smtp.banishedsouls.org) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1JMOmr-0000zX-Cl for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:28:37 -0500 Received: from Beowulf.banishedsouls.org ([192.168.2.34]) (authenticated user dwhess@banishedsouls.org) by smtp.banishedsouls.org (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits)) for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:28:31 -0600 From: David W. Hess To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:28:44 -0600 Organization: Banished Souls Message-ID: <4orgq3tdbp4b03o7sfmh792k6tk79hg5hg@4ax.com> References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1117 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: 2f4c96d93a5e32971aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a3e82d680b59aa749339383ae8ed6b70350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.238.148.236 Cc: Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:52:38 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:52 -0500, David Banning wrote: >I notice very inconsistent results. Sometimes it's up for a week >without a single drop, while other times it's up for 30 seconds, >down for a minute, up for 2 minutes, down for 1. That can go on >for 10 hours, and then maybe it's stable again for a day or so. >It's always appears to be the DSL signal itself, as I can see the >modem sync light starts flashing when the signal goes down. > > . . . I had similar symptoms last year during the hottest part of summer after = a big storm. The thought was that the heat and humidity had compromised the wiring between= my location and the central office. As it ends up, the problem had existed for years but= the previous owner had figured 384 down 128 up was the maximum the line length would = permit and the phone company was hardly going to admit there was a problem unless = pressed. >So here's my question: > >1. is there anyone who has a lot of experience monitoring DSL lines > that can tell me how common this is? It depends on the condition of the infrastructure which varies widely in = the US from area to area. >2. Is there any way to avoid it? Is this DSL installed on a line that also has a dial tone? If so when = the service becomes erratic, try leaving the phone off hook in order to continuously draw a = current through the line. If the line is suffering from a dry open, then the DSL = connection will be restored while the phone is off the hook. On telephone lines used for dial service, a line with a dry open = condition will manifest as a scratchy/noisy telephone line. When used in DSL service, = performance will be very limited because of the high impedance state when no current is flowing = through it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 14:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8637C16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=2UaJgY=S2=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9EF13C458 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=2UaJgY=S2=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.19] helo=mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JMOlg-0006iP-ON for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:27:24 -0500 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1JMOlg-0003Hi-8k; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:27:24 -0500 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id lqTP1Y00H0ASqTN0000000; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:27:23 -0500 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: lqTP1Y00H0ASqTN0000000 Received: from c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.161.17] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1JMOlf-00050u-In; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:27:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:28:26 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Message-ID: <20080205082826.03224660@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041254.44475.wundram@beenic.net> <20080204082152.2129c3c6@vixen42> <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: "Zane C.B." X-EN-OrigIP: 98.206.161.17 X-EN-OrigHost: c-98-206-161-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:57:45 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:36:30 +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 15:21:52 schrieb Zane C.B.: > > I've come across that mentioned in unix(4). There is no support > > for it in regards to Perl. Another problem is it requires support > > for that on both ends. > > > > More and more it looks like getting either PID and/or user info > > about the other process connecting up to it is impossible, with > > out writing some sort of authentication system for the two to use > > or both ends have to support the LOCAL_CREDS stuff. > > I cannot believe that this doesn't exist for Perl (everything > exists for Perl in one way or another...), and anyway, a quick > search on CPAN found this, which looks as though it's (at least > part of) what you're looking for: > > http://search.cpan.org/~mjp/Socket-MsgHdr-0.01/MsgHdr.pm > > Finally, thinking back to the last time I used SCM_CREDS on Linux > (which is a loooong time ago), I'm not even sure that the sender > has to send an SCM_CREDS message (which would invalidate my former > reply); I think it's enough if the receiver requests to get one > (which will be filled in by the kernel), see the description in the > referenced page above which shows you how to set up the > corresponding recvmsg call. > > Sending one is only required in case the sender is root and wants > to spoof it's credentials to the remote process (IIRC). Been spending a bit of time messing around with it and it appears to be broken. I've tried various things, but it does not seem to fetch any thing. #!/usr/bin/perl use Socket::MsgHdr; use Socket; use IO::Socket::UNIX; unlink("/tmp/testsocket"); my $listen_socket = new IO::Socket::UNIX( Local => "/tmp/testsocket", Listen=>1); while(my $conn = $listen_socket->accept){ my $inHdr = Socket::MsgHdr->new(buflen=>8192, namelen=>256); recvmsg($conn, $inHdr, LOCAL_CREDS); my $creds=$conn->sockopt(LOCAL_CREDS); print $creds; my @cmsg = $inHdr->cmsghdr(); $conn->send($#cmsg."\n"); while (my ($level, $type, $data) = splice(@cmsg, 0, 3)) { $conn->send($level."\n". $type."\n". $data."\n\n"); } $conn->close; }; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 15:10:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1C716A468 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D963413C45B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 13601 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 09:09:59 -0600 Received: from 124-170-137-61.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.137.61) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 09:09:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:09:47 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: FreeBSD Questions ML Message-ID: <20080206020947.2e4ccc3e@meijome.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hadoop + Fuse on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:10:00 -0000 Hi all, even though there is no port for Hadoop, I've read in the lucene lists that HAdoop runs fine under FreeBSD. I was wondering if anyone knows the status of Hadoop DFS + Fuse driver [1] under FreeBSD. thanks!! B [1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-4 _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "Web2.0 is what you were doing while the rest of us were building businesses." The Reverend I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 15:18:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E90016A469 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (casselton.net [63.165.140.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3684213C4E1 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casselton.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m15FHYih088698; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:17:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=casselton.net; s=ccnMail; t=1202224654; bh=P47nP+fJUq3HFstRS3770tMMdwM=; h=Date: From:Message-Id:To:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To; b=UQW6yu7egjcGTw/vGWJ3M ZfghkXWBexUWg9Hu3SHr9oVbjcpHe5c6R3Kia1sd36PRQoaV5+AchGXk8tZY3hMVihk Ks+p4fEcmvnwMUx/v1J7K6nqQFNpfux1EGO83e1b+ufdcrDRnVOcs+IdBa4oBX7nvdc ZDL2rZ++GixL+IBw= Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by casselton.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m15FHVpA088692; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:17:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:17:31 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200802051517.m15FHVpA088692@casselton.net> To: bc979@lafn.org, on@cs.ait.ac.th In-Reply-To: <200802050323.m153NnOG004527@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:18:50 -0000 I got that error when there was a duplicate entry. I broke down and am now restricting emails to mailers that have a valid forward and reverse DNS entries. Most real mailers have properly configured DNS, but I also added a permission for those that have a DNS entry that comes back as possibly forged. the file /etc/mail/ForgedIP are the hosts that I will bypass the new filter. Added to sendmail.cf: F{ForgedIP} /etc/mail/ForgedIP (and in the relay area) SLocal_check_relay R$+ $| $={ForgedIP}$* $@ $1 $| $2 R$*$={ForgedNames} $| $* $@ $1 $| $2 R$* $: < $&{client_resolve} > R $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "450 Access denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for " $&{client_addr} R $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "550 Access denied. IP name possibly forged " $&{client_name} R $#error $@ 4.7.1 $: "550 Access denied. IP name lookup failed " $&{client_name} Scheck_relay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 15:35:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C4716A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from ns.beach.net (ns.beach.net [12.130.64.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513513C459 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from [192.168.1.227] (host135 [209.200.204.135]) by ns.beach.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m15F5Hd5043336; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Busarow Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:05:15 -0700 To: lachlan@lkla.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:35:15 -0000 On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Lachlan Michael wrote: > I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. > > When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to > a very > small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts processing > with the error > MemoryError : out of memory [snip] > > # limits > Resource limits (current): > cputime infinity secs > filesize infinity kB > datasize 524288 kB > stacksize 65536 kB > coredumpsize infinity kB > memoryuse infinity kB > memorylocked infinity kB > maxprocesses 5547 > openfiles 11095 > sbsize infinity bytes > vmemoryuse infinity kB > Try running limits as the mailman user, not root. All the mailman programs run as your mailman user. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:04:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2271316A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9746013C4EE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w8so1880131mue.4 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:04:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=6HRldcdE3d2oX+0+dVyhRE9hrYoV98rbktOe+Ll8z6Y=; b=kBDJNV+StHA3OhBixqhU0p7VSmiCi6jzO4x5/t/6Sz7xytnVmskFXRp2e4wC3FPVlUbr9vTC6XKgyg24k1amhs7J3I9DZkL4UEYz6L2jVpKg4LlAaj02dBFsSnxoqnbwTff1eLSdYHRHyPxfsI0qhXAgXFzuKBRqf5koihpvdGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=W44pnbGxN4krQUA36gDvuOjgKnHH3FT7UH+rDYsDnezGKZ+M0wE5PexnEmNvBN6pV63F73uiUIrnhDHrgE+4pR5eY4wSomVZY+MItSCY3VI6Z9KnVhZYsxyybupdkK9qygVvh5JjnKJEKWjBl7nWRqpt18xnbhHTEZiGkz/0TDc= Received: by 10.65.225.7 with SMTP id c7mr1470037qbr.1.1202225860503; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cawnpr20310 ( [207.219.14.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm3013505qba.1.2008.02.05.07.37.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:37:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00d301c8680d$0a352de0$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> From: "arthur" To: "Brian" , , "Peter Harrison" References: <4769770500907B09@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added bypostmaster@bouncemessage.net) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:37:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: Re: usb wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:04:29 -0000 FYI: I have a Dlink DWL G122, can't remember the revision but it has a RT2570 chip. My Dlink AP only works with WEP. I failed to make it work with FBSD 6.2. Got some kind of GIANT error when booting. Can scan the AP but dhcp alway failed. Similiar failures with Slackware 12 and Kubuntu 7.10. So far my USB only works with OBSD 4.2, Fedora 7 (can't get ip when booting, has to manually ifup) and of course MS Win2k. Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Harrison" To: "Brian" ; Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: usb wifi > I don't know about the adaptor you've mentioned, but I'm using an Asus WL-167g (a ralink chipset) without problem using the native ural driver. Check the manpage for other supported devices. > > Peter Harrison > > Peter, Deb, Jessica, & Alex > Visit us online at www.4harrisons.blogspot.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian > Subj: usb wifi > Date: Mon 4 Feb 2008 6:39 > Size: 386 bytes > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Has anyone tried the usb based wifi adapters, something like this > http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 > with freebsd? > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:16:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541DA16A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artem_kim@inbox.ru) Received: from mx4.mail.ru (fallback.mail.ru [194.67.57.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0613C4E7 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artem_kim@inbox.ru) Received: from mx34.mail.ru (mx34.mail.ru [194.67.23.200]) by mx4.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id C3DFDA5F79 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:28:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [87.251.152.6] (port=57719 helo=[172.16.0.3]) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1JM9nJ-00094N-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:28:05 +0300 From: Artem Kim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:28:12 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802050128.12155.artem_kim@inbox.ru> X-Spam: Not detected Subject: i2c driver newbie question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:16:33 -0000 Can anybody help my to write i2c drivers for saa7146 ? I do not good understand how to connect this device to existing iicbus=20 infrastructure. I do: static device_method_t saa7146_i2c_methods[] =3D { /* device interface */ DEVMETHOD(device_probe, saa7146_i2c_probe), DEVMETHOD(device_attach, saa7146_i2c_attach), DEVMETHOD(device_detach, saa7146_i2c_detach), =20 /* iicbus interface */ DEVMETHOD(iicbus_callback, iicbus_null_callback), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_repeated_start, saa7146_i2c_repeated_start), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_start, saa7146_i2c_start), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_stop, saa7146_i2c_stop), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_write, saa7146_i2c_write), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_read, saa7146_i2c_read), DEVMETHOD(iicbus_reset, saa7146_i2c_rst_card), { 0, 0 } }; static int saa7146_i2c_probe(device_t dev) { =2E...... } static int saa7146_i2c_attach(device_t dev) { =09 //... Allocation of some resources //add child if ((sc->i2c_dev =3D device_add_child(dev, "iicbus", -1)) =3D=3D NULL) device_printf(dev, "could not allocate iicbus instance\n"); bus_generic_attach(dev); device_printf(dev, "%s complite\n", __FUNCTION__); return (0); } static int saa7146_i2c_start (device_t dev, u_char slave, int timeout) { ...... } =2E.... DRIVER_MODULE (saa7146_i2c, pci, saa7146_i2c_driver, saa7146_i2c_devclass,= 0,=20 0); MODULE_DEPEND (saa7146_i2c, iicbus, SAA7146_I2C_MINVER, SAA7146_I2C_PREFVE= R,=20 SAA7146_I2C_MAXVER); MODULE_VERSION (saa7146_i2c, SAA7146_I2C_MODVER); But this now work. =F3hild-device do not use any resource and is no active,= and=20 calling any method of this device lead to panic. What do I do wrong? Thanks, Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:19:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2949216A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7AF13C478 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-132-178.net-htp.de [89.182.132.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E3A44529; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:19:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: "Zane C.B." Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:21:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> <20080205082826.03224660@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080205082826.03224660@vixen42> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802051721.20302.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:19:58 -0000 Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2008 15:28:26 schrieb Zane C.B.: > As far as I understand the code you've written, that won't work, because you're tying to send/receive the ancilliary messages as socket data, and not as a separate message. Additionally, I don't program any Perl (left that for good about eight years ago), and as such, I won't be of much help putting something together in Perl to do what you want. If you're interested in C code that works (possibly to ask someone more proficient in Perl to translate that), just tell me, and I'll hack something together. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:23:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017DD16A420; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.186.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C22513C448; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id m15GNRjl015776; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:23:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:23:27 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.186.2]); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:23:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92, clamav-milter version 0.92 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: How to use two interface with jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:23:33 -0000 Hi all I've a server to run FreeBSD 7.0 with jail. On the server the are two physical interfaces. This two interfaces are on two different ip subnet. All jail are on the second interface How can I make all traffic from the server/for the server pass through the first interface all traffic from the jail /for the jail pass through the second interface. In fact : How can make two «default router» on for the server, another for all jail. Regards NB: Sorry for cross posting. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 5 fév 2008 17:18:35 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:24:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4FB16A419 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829B013C45D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-132-178.net-htp.de [89.182.132.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E2DA44529; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:24:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: "Zane C.B." Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:25:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080204043021.1a8ee670@vixen42> <200802041536.30469.wundram@beenic.net> <20080205082826.03224660@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080205082826.03224660@vixen42> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802051725.52837.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unix domain socket security and PID retrieval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:24:30 -0000 Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2008 15:28:26 schrieb Zane C.B.: > And, on another note, you might be interested in /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/getpeereid.c which implements a function that (internally) uses a socket option (no need= to=20 mess with ancilliary messages) to retrieve the value you're looking for.=20 getsockopt() is surely directly exposed in Perl. =2D-=20 Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development =2D------------------------------------ Office Germany - EXPO PARK HANNOVER =20 Beenic Networks GmbH Mail=E4nder Stra=DFe 2 30539 Hannover =20 =46on +49 511 / 590 935 - 15 =46ax +49 511 / 590 935 - 29 Mobil +49 172 / 43 737 34 Mail wundram@beenic.net Beenic Networks GmbH =2D------------------------------------ Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hannover Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Jorge Delgado Registernummer: HRB 61869 Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hannover From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:37:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EE116A417; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@c0mplx.org) Received: from home.c0mplx.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC2B13C461; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@c0mplx.org) Received: from pi by home.c0mplx.org with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JMQnV-000FJ7-Bd; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:37:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:37:25 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20080205163725.GK1757@home.c0mplx.org> References: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use two interface with jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:37:26 -0000 Hi! > How can I make > > all traffic from the server/for the server pass through the first > interface > > all traffic from the jail /for the jail pass through the second > interface. > > In fact : How can make two «default router» on for the server, another for > all jail. Assuming you can use ipfw, here's an example: - Interfaces: if1: 192.168.1.1, gateway 192.168.1.254 if2: 192.168.2.1, gateway 192.168.2.254 - system uses 192.168.1.254 as its default gateway. - IP-ranges for jails are in the 192.168.2.0/24 range. - Then add the following ipfw rule: /sbin/ipfw add 1000 fwd 192.168.2.254 ip from 192.168.2.0/24 to any out via if2 Give it a try. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 12 years to go ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:05:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FC116A41B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812F813C478 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2376877fgg.35 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:05:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=BFxJJDn30bORwTFTCKZVtCoMtT0nOm42iMzbSPbk1Es=; b=EpBX85GjyFfkKfDLpY8IQB0Xkl6d/JGl0o2Ib3X984P3bGcKaTNg4Z1kkLFT/gY85+3z3+TORt7U9F9cGg8tH7ybjlFvJLGaafFk1HXtzUkeI/Fr3Exiox3PNec2UYgx3U/tBS/bOgr0Fnsrmpuzzt1/wGWusvGm261VEtBpcAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=vWWRZxDx+ZukR7iPEX1EVUfOdIIEBmAf8DAogn/83h8YWDK4ydzvLdd79jtDbIHQfxwz/UnRK09hMJ0P4Eq5eb0wVxftThuJwUxo5CHDVT1fkRufoJETm/eXGeoagKjveYoGUzcfOiGX/TkKPUQCrKjC9fP1tTfqe2Tx0InfKsE= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr7999559fgb.53.1202231104956; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802050905g6bf8c3aeu484efd1d80f98281@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:05:04 -0600 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080205072409.73621f48@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041930y1b209944ice740f47d006cf83@mail.gmail.com> <20080205072409.73621f48@scorpio> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ea8ba572e1bd19d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:05:07 -0000 ok after that e-mail last night, I did try a make of the ports collection libnet after the make, everything looked fine, atleast I didnt notice anything missing in the log or config files but I still see the same problem, " undefined reference to libnet_init" and msgs liks that for every libnet call. I used -lnet too, but of no use, even did the changes in make file that mel had suggested in the previous post. So I dont know what the problem here is or if this is some incompatibility between how i have BSD and how I have libnet or probably they are not linking together or something like that. Otherwise I dont see why the compiler doesnt recognize any libnet function calls. Here is a question I have, I've worked in TinyOS before and I'm wondering if in Libnet we need a separate directory for each application with its own custom-written make file, or things can just be in one pool from where they are compiled. I do a simple cc -lnet filename.c compile. Is there something else I'm missing here ? Thanks Bhuvana From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 18:26:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AA316A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (ns2.violetlan.net [80.81.242.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C55313C468 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A87A11439; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:21:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.violetlan.net (mbali.violetlan.net [10.0.100.150]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE3F1142B; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:21:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 217.45.165.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@violetlan.net) by www.violetlan.net with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:24:32 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <50602.217.45.165.129.1202235872.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> In-Reply-To: <20080204170429.GF7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1201922586.00019085.1201909804@10.7.7.3> <47A4FB57.40203@FreeBSD.org> <1256.89.240.61.114.1202062849.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> <47A60A10.80907@FreeBSD.org> <64255.217.45.165.129.1202123892.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> <20080204170429.GF7685@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:24:32 -0000 (GMT) From: "Reinhold" To: "Jerry McAllister" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Alexander Motin , Reinhold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd with a dual pppoe setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:26:43 -0000 On Mon, February 4, 2008 17:04, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 11:18:12AM -0000, Reinhold wrote: > > >>> >>>>> If you are connecting to the ISP it would be better not to >>>>> specify IP to let them be negotiated. >>>> >>>> How will I go ahead and set the static ips for both my wan >>>> connections? >>>> >>> >>> If IPs are static then provider itself will negotiate them every time >>> same. If you will specify them and provider will request another, >>> negotiation will fail. So I would not recommend you to specify them. >>> >> >> Hi >> I spoke to our ISP today. I asked them if they can set one of my ips as >> the main ip that will be assigned every time I dail in and they told me >> no they can't do it because of some security thing on there side :-S >> >> Basicaly how they explained it to me is because I have 5 ips, when we >> dail in we get assigned a dynamic ip and on top of that I have to >> manually set the 5 ips to what ever services I would like them to be >> used for. If I want my WAN2 connection to use one of the 5 ips I have to >> manually set it so that all my out going connections will be using that >> ip. > > Your ISP CAN do this. They just won't because they don't want to make it > easy for you to run a server. They want to suppress your use. You > might check with other ISPs or twist their arm more, or get a little more > sophisticated by letting DHCP set the IPs and have your domain registered > through one of the nameserver services that will allow you to reset the > info each time you boot. Then, there are some utilities you can get to > check what IP got set and then notify that nameserver service. > > I don't remember offhand the names of any of those services or the > utilities you can use to talk to them, but there are several and you can > just do a little searching for them. > > ////jerry Hi, I phoned them again, the first guy I spoke to didn't know what I wanted so after telling him to get me someone that I can talk to I was finally told that BT, our ISP does not support setting a static ip to a dsl line if you have 5 ips but, they do it when you have only 1 ip address. Weird I know. The guy then told me that if I need this type of support that I will have to go and find another ISP that does support this. How nice of them to tell me that. So I'm left with 5 ips that I need to some how set so that I can use them. Any help will be greatly apreasiated to get this working Regards Reinhold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 18:51:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087BA16A468 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9967213C4EE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so2131575wri.3 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:51:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=kPIl1LLQsPbBS2Eiknt27R2dIH4qOs1LiqGJ9GiSCb8=; b=B6zQZsMapkw0dgZ0Yw7l3iJ4X0278ePZOxBSIiXAKeb6ObKde0BzGhP5f9ZIhFkteTwoz4FkXX28rPRf8FGL1+adceq5COJcWqF5Idp/QSEW6c0uhzJLNUYVDHODSdUd0EKmisSzQVNspTyQlvE8DXO1DLCfjS3VPZMT6rs8aBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Vu8Z/8Zy3EK8Tv121X9lR3lyHvt1FyN0NoNhM1TFzwe/Nppi30SKDu+LvbSOPV7nYTfonRoQqPYl2HkwtGUME1qROHZkL/tyPpWADdemhm0e0DDjMeZJnz2cB2B2yCp+uX3HyP+cPUtx9aaFzKy55gzvOf7ErNjom6xgRFkybhg= Received: by 10.142.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr4565332wfc.216.1202237496743; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g3sm16057470wra.7.2008.02.05.10.51.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:51:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: User Questions From: Joshua Isom Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:53:01 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Subject: Xorg NV driver problems GeForce 6200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:51:39 -0000 I'm having trouble getting the nv driver to work for me. I'm using 6.3-PRERELEASE on amd64 which limits me to the nv driver for my computer. I have a widescreen monitor attached, so I want actual 1440x900 instead of a stretched 1024x768 to working with so vga's out. Whenever I start up X, the screen just goes black. If I set `Option "NoAccel" "true"` I'm able to ctl-alt-bksp out to the console, but if NoAccel is false, the system locks up(or at least acpi decides to quit working). The chipset is supported by nouveau(assuming at least that my NV44A is compatible with the NV44). I know it's not strictly a FreeBSD issue since I had the same problem with Ubuntu on a separate hard drive, but for Ubuntu I at least have the option to use NVidia's driver. I've read more about people having problems with NVidia's driver not working than Xorg's which hinders most searches. Has anyone had any experience like this or knows how to fix it? On a slightly off note, my BIOS seems to want to hide the integrated graphics if an AGP card is attached, even though I've had it working fine. Is there a way to be able to use the integrated graphics even though an AGP card is attached? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 19:04:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7B816A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4D813C461 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64240204342F; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4C13B28088; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:04:58 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807134-a18e5bb0000008b9-ee-47a8b35a5ddd Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 27D8328083; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:04:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <47A809BC.2000608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:04:57 -0800 References: <4E314437-2B3E-4FC1-9825-5E08DA278635@mac.com> <47A809BC.2000608@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Tuan Ho , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:04:58 -0000 On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three >>> consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? >> >> As root, you could run: >> >> chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ > > Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant. He wants to > automatically > lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password. Perhaps, although I preferred to answer the question which was actually asked in this case, since automatically locking out accounts results in a trivial denial-of-service condition whenever anyone happens to do a brute-force scan on the machine in question. > See login.conf(5), particularly these entries: > > login-backoff number 3 The number of login > attempts allowed > before the backoff delay is > inserted > after each subsequent > attempt. The > backoff delay is the number > of tries > above login-backoff > multiplied by 5 > seconds. > login-retries number 10 The number of login > attempts allowed > before the login fails. > > Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to > textmode logins directly on the console. Other applications like > xdm(1) > have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access > like ssh(1). Have you actually tried setting these? They make the system add a pause if the wrong password is entered several times, but they will not actually lock the account. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 19:29:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEDD16A47A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8AF13C4DD for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from broadpark.no ([80.202.4.61]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JVS004OV3BXNX70@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:28:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.202.4.61] by osl1mux1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:28:45 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd=22?= To: Drew Message-id: Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:28:45 +0800 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal In-reply-to: <715841970802041648t363cf283y4cb7f91a9d22146@mail.gmail.com> References: <715841970802041648t363cf283y4cb7f91a9d22146@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl error running lint on spamassassin? [NO MORE SPAMASSASSIN!!!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:29:21 -0000 Hey Drew! I learned long time ago to drop SpamAssassin altogether=2E I got hundred= s of spam e-mails a day with SpamAssassin=2E But when I switched to a clean Postfix installation with Greylist (port = 10023) and 3 different blocklist servers=2C my spams reduced to 0 a day=2C= or 1-3 at most=2E =24 cat /usr/local/etc/postfix/main=2Ecf =23 FreeBSD/i386 =23 nigga=2Esomeshit=2Ecom mail=5Fowner =3D postfix home=5Fmailbox =3D =2Emaildir/ mydomain =3D someshit=2Ecom myhostname =3D nigga=2Esomeshit=2Ecom mynetworks =3D 127=2E0=2E0=2E0/8 myorigin =3D =24mydomain mydestination =3D =24mydomain=2C localhost=2E=24mydomain=2C =24myhostnam= e=2C someothershit=2Ecom smtpd=5Frecipient=5Frestrictions =3D =A0reject=5Frbl=5Fclient zen=2Espamhaus=2Eorg =A0reject=5Frbl=5Fclient dnsbl=2Eahbl=2Eorg =A0reject=5Frbl=5Fclient dnsbl=2Enjabl=2Eorg =A0permit=5Fmynetworks =A0reject=5Funauth=5Fdestination =A0check=5Fpolicy=5Fservice inet=3A127=2E0=2E0=2E1=3A10023 unknown=5Flocal=5Frecipient=5Freject=5Fcode =3D 450 queue=5Fdirectory =3D /var/spool/postfix command=5Fdirectory =3D /usr/local/sbin daemon=5Fdirectory =3D /usr/local/libexec/postfix sendmail=5Fpath =3D /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases=5Fpath =3D /usr/local/bin/newaliases mailq=5Fpath =3D /usr/local/bin/mailq sample=5Fdirectory =3D /usr/local/etc/postfix Suggestions on improving this configuration file is always appreciated=2E= Have fun! All the best=2C Kyrre ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Drew =3Ccotharyus=40gmail=2Ecom=3E Date=3A Tuesday=2C February 5=2C 2008 8=3A49 am Subject=3A Perl error running lint on spamassassin=3F To=3A questions=40freebsd=2Eorg =3E Hi=2C =3E I know I=27ve been noisy of late=2C but that should slow down if I = =3E ever get =3E things working around here again=2E I=27ve given up on my old server= = =3E hardware=2Cand put another machine in it=27s place=2E Unfortunately=2C= = =3E everything but mail is =3E working for me on this server=2E The problem seems to be with = =3E spamassassin=2EWhen I run spamassassin -D --lint from the command = =3E line=2C everything =5Fseems=5F =3E to check out=2E However=2C when I run mailscanner --lint it segfault= s=3A =3E = =3E root=40colossus(/)=23 mailscanner --lint =3E Checking version numbers=2E=2E=2E =3E Version number in MailScanner=2Econf (4=2E64=2E3) is correct=2E =3E = =3E Your envelope=5Fsender=5Fheader in spam=2Eassassin=2Eprefs=2Econf is= correct=2E =3E = =3E Checking for SpamAssassin errors (if you use it)=2E=2E=2E =3E SpamAssassin temp dir =3D = =3E /var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/SpamAssassin-Temp =3E zsh=3A segmentation fault=A0 mailscanner --lint =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E I wasn=27t real sure what was causing this=2C but running SA lint = =3E from mailwatch =3E provides a clue=2C perhaps=3A =3E = =3E /libexec/ld-elf=2Eso=2E1=3A /usr/local/bin/perl5=2E8=2E8=3A Undefine= d symbol =3E =22PL=5Fexit=5Fflags=22 =3E = =3E I=27ve removed and reinstalled perl5=2E8 from ports=2C double checke= d = =3E everythingwith the perl-after-upgrade script=2C ensured that I=27ve = =3E handled the =3E use=2Eperlports thing=2C etc=2E After all that failed to solve this=2C= I =3E rebuilt and =3E reinstalled world=2E Still no joy=2E I like to try to solve stuff = =3E that looks =3E easy like this on my own=2C but obviously at this point=2C I=27ve ov= erlooked =3E something simple=2E Anyone care to pass me a clue-bat=3F Thanks in = =3E advance=2E=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F =3E freebsd-questions=40freebsd=2Eorg mailing list =3E http=3A//lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions =3E To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to =22freebsd-questions- =3E unsubscribe=40freebsd=2Eorg=22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 21:12:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D831C16A41A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B2913C46A for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18685C22; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:56:17 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47A8CCAE.5000204@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:53:02 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:12:57 -0000 David Banning wrote: > I run a small FreeBSD server with a standard DSL line. I have it ping > the ISP every five seconds, and when it doesn't ping it logs the > results. > > I notice very inconsistent results. Sometimes it's up for a week > without a single drop, while other times it's up for 30 seconds, > down for a minute, up for 2 minutes, down for 1. That can go on > for 10 hours, and then maybe it's stable again for a day or so. > It's always appears to be the DSL signal itself, as I can see the > modem sync light starts flashing when the signal goes down. > > To end any possibility of the phone company pointing their finger > at the wiring in my house, I put the DSL modem right at the phone > connection block where the line enters the house and then called > them. Problem persists. > > The phone company say they have replaced lines all over the > neighborhood while trying to fix the problem. Eventually the > connection becomes stable, the phone company declares that they > "found the problem", but when he's gone, the trouble starts again. > > Now knowing how common this is, I installed the same logging system > at another company's server, that is located a few miles away. Guess > what? Same drop-in drop-out problem. > > To any average computer user, these lines might appear normal - > when a page stops loading for a minute they just live with it, and > forget about it. > > So here's my question: > > 1. is there anyone who has a lot of experience monitoring DSL lines > that can tell me how common this is? > > 2. Is there any way to avoid it? > > 3. I have used three different DSL modems, but the are all home > quality: an Alcatel Speed Touch, a Speedstream 5260, > and a Westell Wirespeed. Would spending more money on > another type of modem help? If so, what is recommended? > > Any comments would be helpful. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Aloha David, We had a similar issue here in Wahiawa Hi. and the phone line was indeed the problem. In our case it was a junction about a .5 mile (1 KM) away . The box on a pole was full of water when ever it was raining. When it dried out everything would be fine for a while. The phone guy drilled a hole in the bottom of the box and we have not had the problem since. It could also be a bank of d slams at the phone co office as well. Some are know to have issues. In Canada you have freezes and thaws that make lines have flaws from expansion and contraction too. ( I used to live there.) Good Luck with the phone co. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + 8.* "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 22:22:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA5A16A418 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp1.b-one.net (csmtp1.one.com [195.47.247.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72A13C448 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from diamond.tele.dk (83.74.5.8.ip.tele2adsl.dk [83.74.5.8]) by csmtp1.b-one.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37392000906 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:57:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47A8DBC6.40605@diamondbox.dk> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:57:26 +0100 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080122) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> <47A8CCAE.5000204@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <47A8CCAE.5000204@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: USB mice in fbsd7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:22:43 -0000 Hi list, About a week ago I installed fbsd7 on a new machine, and no matter what I do the USB mouse doesn't kick in when booting. If I pull out the usb plug and reinsert it, the mouse starts working fine. The very same mouse has worked w/out a hitch for years on fbsd6.x. When I look in /dev there's no ums0 entry, but after reconnecting the mouse, the ums0 entry appears. Does anyone have a clue about this?? best regards - Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 23:12:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54E316A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arlugophotog@yahoo.com) Received: from web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4A6413C457 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arlugophotog@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75050 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2008 22:46:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3zd04dd/x1f8QZu9IhVI1dx810o4yfkHSFNpYoLniKr1HYarZB8SebtyPCidwsoJ3liMXaAuelwc37okeNyq39NZyxWD0Z/4QaKBVa+oVgc9MBCSDzSGfnOJUZ9fzbwHonnz6/A9BShsDHjKBDMG5qHeBmOpbqGUieTAdxTzLC8=; X-YMail-OSG: OAe0YO0VM1kl5IcrROMFoby2jEoqHuJtOu8xqBtGz8CxrZVTPSTbI.wYRmL7rKDJQATWjRByk3c1_TyosaS5eYP2oOJsw5QLggVznFDOFjwDyxbsU3aILUOq.CiQag-- Received: from [75.4.11.18] by web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:46:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:46:06 -0800 (PST) From: Andy L To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <783009.73888.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Question UART: please read from Bottom Up! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:12:46 -0000 Question for UART (where do I begin this process?) Ok, you could get the same functionality with any of our serial enabled LCDs like this one, LCD-00462. All you need is a micro that can spit out serial commands (which most all micros have a serial UART) and you can manipulate the pixels. I would start with this development board, DEV-00666, this is an AVR. You can have a tx line goto the display and you can configure the I/Os for buttons. Let us know if you have anymore questions. Andy L wrote: > Here is a picture: > > Virus free. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: SparkFun Support > To: Andy L > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 2:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: Question > > Hi, > > Your link is dead. > > "This link is not authorized by Yahoo" > > -Support > > Andy L wrote: > > Thanks for writing back, > > > > All I have in mind for the display is a simple one like the > > following: > > > http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020nbBKVHFSoAhWCjzbkF/SIG=12eannskb/EXP=1202083419/**http%3A//www.clothingtrends.co.uk/images/products/sudoku.jpg > > > > So you have at least a very good guess as to what these guys used to > > get this program from design to prototype I imagine (above). > > > > If you do, how can I get started right now headed down that road? > > > > Thank you, Andy. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: SparkFun Support > > > To: Andy L > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 9:36:01 AM > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > Let me ask you this, do you have any experience programming > > microcontrollers? > > > > There are many processors you can use to accomplish this. It will really > > depend on how advanced you want your display, because this is where most > > of the processing power will be used up. Most of out uCs like the > > ATMega168 should be able process a simple game algorithm and the inputs > > of the buttons. Check out our Tetris game: > > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/present.php?p=Tetris > > > > You will definitely need to modify your code to work with the specific > > microcontroller you will be using. Basically, you will need to convert > > your code into hex that the uC can read. Check out our embedded > > tutorials for AVRs: > > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/hdr.php?p=tutorials > > > > The big issue is going to be the display. We have many serial enabled > > LCDs which are very easy to interface and do not take much processing > > power at all, but are not very snazy. > > > > What do you have in mind for the display? > > > > -Support > > > > Andy L wrote: > > > Thank you for your response, > > > > > > Your first question: "what kind of programming language is the > > > game written in?" > > > > > > Well, right now, it is on Adobe Director 8.5. > > > > > > Second: "How much memory?" > > > > > > As of this moment, I have only got the program to work on my PC and > > > it's really tiny, but the full fledged version will have a sizeable > > > amount more data. I just needed a proof of concept with my laptop and > > > now I have that. This is pretty much a numerical game, similar in > > > scope to soduko, but not at all the same thing; no characters, no > > > kooky sounds. > > > > > > Third question: "Did I need a display and or buttons?" > > > > > > Yes, I definitely need a display and a number pad. > > > > > > You see these games on the shelves of places all the time, the poker, > > > the 20 questions, the crossword puzzle, the tic tac toe; this is all > > > I'm trying to get going. > > > > > > If you could answer this: "What software/hardware did any one of the > > > many producers of these games use to bring their ideas to > > > fruition?"-you would be totally handing me the way to go forward and > > > get working on a prototype. > > > > > > Thanks, brah. > > > > > > Andy. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: SparkFun Support >> > > > To: Andy L > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 7:49:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: Question > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > Well, we need more info to see if we can help. > > > > > > What kind of programming language is the game written in? > > > > > > How much memory does the 'game' run on? > > > > > > Do you need a display or just some buttons or both? > > > > > > -Support > > > > > > Andy L wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I really like checking out all of the things on your website. > > > > It's what I always have asked the people behind the counter at Radio > > > > Shak about. If you can answer the following question you are worlds > > > > ahead of two days of www searching and asking. > > > > > > > > I have a game ready on my pc that I designed to one day run on a > > > > stand-alone hand held device. Kinda like a suduku or whatever game; > > > > well, how do I get that game into a device such as a hand held that > > > > will ONLY run my program and NOT be something to upload to a PDA? > > > > > > > > Can your site offer any products that would facilitate the prototype > > > > building process? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, ANDY. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 23:46:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37EA16A421 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4122413C46B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m15NkRDM009357 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:46:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m15NkPM2009354 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:46:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:46:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:46:44 -0000 what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general use? google simply don't like to talk with me, when i like to use anything to protect my privacy. i don't abuse this service, but i don't like google tracing what i search, when and why. it started maybe week ago, so i have to use something else. http://wojtek.3miasto.net.pl/google/goolag.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 23:52:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FF216A417 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@MonkeyBrains.NET) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6893013C467 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@MonkeyBrains.NET) Received: from [192.168.1.125] (adsl-76-193-116-241.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.193.116.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m15NqjMx005046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@MonkeyBrains.NET) Message-ID: <47A8F6D7.6030608@MonkeyBrains.NET> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:52:55 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Macintosh/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47A7A02C.70206@monkeybrains.net> <20080205090959.M1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080205090959.M1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92, clamav-milter version 0.92 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I set up gmirror for a SLICE, how do I set up the MBRs to both be bootable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:52:46 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Name Status Components >> mirror/gm0s1 COMPLETE ad0s1 >> ad8 > there is definitely something wrong in this setup > > i thing second line should be ad8s1 not ad8! > OOPS! I cut and pasted incorrectly. Name Status Components mirror/gm0s1 COMPLETE ad0s1 ad8s1 Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 00:06:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FAE16A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E128F13C455 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921865500 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:06:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:06:07 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2BEC782D7FCA2F905539D12A@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:06:09 -0000 --On Wednesday, February 06, 2008 00:46:25 +0100 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general use? > > google simply don't like to talk with me, when i like to use anything to > protect my privacy. i don't abuse this service, but i don't like google > tracing what i search, when and why. > > it started maybe week ago, so i have to use something else. > I have always, and continue to, used Altavista. I like the ability to quote search terms and narrow the search to only what I'm looking for. I use Google when I need to do "search term site:utdallas.edu" for something, but other than that, I use Altavista. Don't know what tracking they do, though. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 00:11:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8875616A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DB713C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3994806pyb.10 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:11:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uQ1KJXGoN1tnPnIOrpbk/J3sayTdX4Y962XtEQmvuhg=; b=pR9Dvx5t3TXY32dmnfwhtxoHK16xLWBkuy4E1BujiNqx/nWVe8dpCNCZLfSMHSR9fvt91Qr5wwwbJaqbx7a31Mzr+u1Fp6hywhlm4BTXxR25iFlKqJGqXYYo54ClutVj4Uomx5dmttFrRsb6A+SnY+7JvUL4fDT4aAxle6QXxnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=deT34RSSb6a4hl38r5poCAGWdNwua+EKnV/G1d+sAhRrrWY6oLJr+4tLv+z0ADhnZwdNjthY9Z2m1zav48rwtMiWEG/LTwERZOhUKnIiSnBxZmH8stkDemZlB9PYyT56IszU6rJmU3LGe2sInUUgJtzBlkfOPBCWYnxqbzBYLaQ= Received: by 10.64.243.10 with SMTP id q10mr17086869qbh.15.1202256671061; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.230.6 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:11:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310802051611md09347bm3a6b35d44b84e2bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:11:11 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr In-Reply-To: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use two interface with jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:11:12 -0000 On Feb 5, 2008 11:23 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > > I've a server to run FreeBSD 7.0 with jail. > > On the server the are two physical interfaces. > > This two interfaces are on two different ip subnet. > > All jail are on the second interface > > How can I make > > all traffic from the server/for the server pass through the first > interface > > all traffic from the jail /for the jail pass through the second > interface. > > In fact : How can make two =ABdefault router=BB on for the server, anothe= r for > all jail. > > Regards > What I did on a test server was use 1 interface for tx/rx data, and a 'dummy' device, a physical, unattached card, and assigned it an IP in /etc/rc.conf. ## LAN ifconfig_ndis0=3D"DHCP" ## Jail LAN ifconfig_bfe0=3D"inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bfe0_alias0=3D"inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" I then used pf to route data. I wrote a small tutorial on this, perhaps the concept will help you: http://www.dev-urandom.com/freebsd/jail_conf HTH --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 00:13:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7916A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0830013C465 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m160Cunm009535; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:12:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m160Cs6J009532; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:12:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:12:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <2BEC782D7FCA2F905539D12A@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20080206011016.K9506@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <2BEC782D7FCA2F905539D12A@utd59514.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:13:09 -0000 > > I have always, and continue to, used Altavista. I like the ability to quote i will switch. thanks. probably millons others will too, and it will punish google. > search terms and narrow the search to only what I'm looking for. I use > Google when I need to do "search term site:utdallas.edu" for something, but > other than that, I use Altavista. Don't know what tracking they do, though. they try to remember all my searches. but it wasn't a problem. when i try to use it through tor, or some anonymous proxies, i'm getting captchas forever. i found that lot of people complain on the same, while not even trying to protect their privacy, using network "normal" way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 00:13:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A0516A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EDE13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m160DR0N009542; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:13:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m160DOKD009539; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:13:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:13:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rudy In-Reply-To: <47A8F6D7.6030608@MonkeyBrains.NET> Message-ID: <20080206011302.J9506@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A7A02C.70206@monkeybrains.net> <20080205090959.M1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A8F6D7.6030608@MonkeyBrains.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I set up gmirror for a SLICE, how do I set up the MBRs to both be bootable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:13:43 -0000 >>> ad8 >> there is definitely something wrong in this setup >> >> i thing second line should be ad8s1 not ad8! >> > > OOPS! I cut and pasted incorrectly. > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0s1 COMPLETE ad0s1 > ad8s1 > Rudy > > simply bsdlabel -B both ad0s1 and ad8s1, and get both bootable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:10:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C22516A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDFB13C45A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 9B61A9B4001; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:10:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:10:46 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:10:47 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:46:25AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general > use? > > google simply don't like to talk with me, when i like to use anything to > protect my privacy. i don't abuse this service, but i don't like google > tracing what i search, when and why. > > it started maybe week ago, so i have to use something else. > > > http://wojtek.3miasto.net.pl/google/goolag.html Google has been tracking search results for years. I'd be shocked if other major search engines weren't doing it--at least Google is being up front about it. You can partially keep them from correlating your searches if you reject the Google cookie. If you do this, the only way that they can "track" you is by IP address. You can also use a Google proxy such as scroogle.org. Again, there's no real guarantee that they aren't tracking things, but it's a way to get Google results without having to use Google, itself. Generally, though, unless you sign in to their services, it's pretty unlikely that they'll ever tie search results to a physical human being. Without an ISP's help, they won't know who owns your IP address. If your ISP is willing to give you up to anyone who asks, I'd be worried about more than just Google. What are the laws in your country like regarding this? Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:24:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D25216A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490F313C4D1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so950594ele.3 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:24:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=67uvZr5jUoVMvsov/iGiqLfKi3G/rI3ikXVAMk4JtCE=; b=FwZ3Kc2/dfSTkWHL+BlIIOQLl7h6WOfM7UkqktUxuHz8G2ge67Eq6vm/zi4+SCTAC24KNeI5qtWURvKRgDairBdbEUo+UvB180scmQFdPVyAgw/ERNNWezCuygojMRH1z07lzi7wee0DNFuPLzXR0Pna2coXDwiZc31rDcAkDac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b+ze6YtRAskxPmYKZ165Rx2IG7os9loJozPQYpeUuQnM8jDUoOyQkS804yldBWDc3//HLrO8tA00tfatDOjnHCn5EmsDUStPTcJivU+bwO53vU9f1ZwHtl2TAbaTwEeW30B3E86c+ZJzAKm3QDJbff29kuBeq2KqcuVFqH4yCcA= Received: by 10.151.154.20 with SMTP id g20mr40643ybo.62.1202261087453; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:24:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:24:47 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:24:48 -0000 Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me with my "behind a router" problem ? Should I post it again ? Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. Respectfully, Eugen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:31:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2467E16A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920D113C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m161UwLu003041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:30:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m161V6O5051454; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:31:06 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:31:06 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802060131.m161V6O5051454@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: kyrreny@broadpark.no In-reply-to: (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd=22?= on Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:28:45 +0800) References: <715841970802041648t363cf283y4cb7f91a9d22146@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, cotharyus@gmail.com Subject: Re: Perl error running lint on spamassassin? [NO MORE SPAMASSASSIN!!!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:31:12 -0000 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8: Undefined symbol > "PL_exit_flags" You may consider updating every Perl modules after you have upgraded Perl 5.8.8. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:38:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D63B16A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133F813C469 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA0F5C22; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:41:59 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47A90FA4.9040405@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:38:44 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:38:45 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general > use? > > google simply don't like to talk with me, when i like to use anything > to protect my privacy. i don't abuse this service, but i don't like > google tracing what i search, when and why. > > it started maybe week ago, so i have to use something else. > > > http://wojtek.3miasto.net.pl/google/goolag.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha Wojciech, I find ASK.com useful. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:40:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904AD16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428EE13C45D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m161eqt0008164; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:40:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m161eopa008148; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:40:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:40:50 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080204202629.Q9408@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <20080205202804.H12870@fledge.watson.org> References: <20080204184748.GJ1422@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20080204202629.Q9408@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:40:52 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org, Stacey Roberts Subject: Re: xorg default configuration location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:40:54 -0000 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> then X11 must be configured manually" >> >> Where *is* this default configuration located? > > default settings are embedded in Xorg binary - i think. > but there is no default configuration file. > >> So, the *only* thing I'd like to change is the XkbLayout setting. Is it >> possible to locate this "default configuration" and simply change that >> config >> setting? > > i think Xorg -configure generates exactly this - automatic configuration > > generate it, fix keyboard and put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf If its Xorg 7.3 no configuration is need if your hardware is supported. In my test case (an ancient Dell Inspiron) startx selected the correct driver (ati) and highest supported resolution (1200x1400 or some such). The version I installed gives a hard error on the module fbdev not being loaded but then proceeds to work perfectly. If you hardware is not recognized or there is some other problem the X must be configured manually. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 01:43:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF06516A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C114813C45A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <47A910D7.2090703@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:43:51 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071216) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:43:58 -0000 Eugen wrote: > Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me > with my "behind a router" problem ? Should I post it again ? > Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable > system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. I'm not a very experienced user, but I read through your posts and it is indeed puzzling. Did you try to set an address manually on the interface, boot without any "ifconfig"-statement in rc.conf and then ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 and route add default 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 Perhaps post your rc.conf as well. Is the router in the arp cache (arp -a) ? --per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 02:10:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C3A16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91BD13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m162ArvO022310; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:10:53 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:10:53 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <6669.137.153.0.34.1202263853.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802050423k2b8ebb9es58c7619e8e9de3ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <94136a2c0802050423k2b8ebb9es58c7619e8e9de3ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:10:53 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:10:55 -0000 > Barry just answered on Mailman list saying that the memory fault may > be in Python for that matter.... Thanks for forwarding that mail. If it's a python problem I'm probably in big trouble, but since I can't find evidence of other having the same problem with such small attachments (and as noted on the Mailman list it completely gums up the works for ALL lists) I'm still inclined to believe this is failure on my part, rather than a general error. Lachlan > [quote] >> Now to just work out the root cause of the memory errors ... > > It's important to remember that Python's email parsing code sucks the > entire message text into memory and keeps large attachments in memory > after parsing too. There could be a number of problems associated > with this, including a memory leak that causes the raw text to be kept > even after parsing, or that the attachment is just to big to be kept > in memory after parsing. > > There have been talks over the years about how to modify the email > package's api's so that it would be possible to store large > attachments in a separate file outside of core memory, but this has > yet to be done. Now would be a good time to look into it again, if we > have any hopes of getting something like this into Python 2.6 and > 3.0. However, this isn't the right place to discuss such changes -- > those should happen on Python's email sig: > http://www.python.org/sigs/email-sig > > Cheers, > - -Barry > [/quote] > > Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 02:17:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5888F16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD7B13C447 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m162HWbD022712; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:17:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.36 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:17:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:17:33 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: "Dan Busarow" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:17:38 -0000 > On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Lachlan Michael wrote: > >> I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. >> >> When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to >> a very >> small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts processing >> with the error >> MemoryError : out of memory > > [snip] > >> # limits >> Resource limits (current): >> cputime infinity secs >> filesize infinity kB >> datasize 524288 kB >> stacksize 65536 kB >> coredumpsize infinity kB >> memoryuse infinity kB >> memorylocked infinity kB >> maxprocesses 5547 >> openfiles 11095 >> sbsize infinity bytes >> vmemoryuse infinity kB > > Try running limits as the mailman user, not root. All the mailman > programs run as your mailman user. Ok, but mailman is a nologin user. Should I change this temporarily to check? # su mailman This account is currently not available. I'm not sure about the syntax but limits -U mailman doesn't seem to make the user mailman, but just use the class default. # limits -U mailman Resource limits for class default: cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kB datasize infinity kB stacksize infinity kB coredumpsize infinity kB memoryuse infinity kB memorylocked infinity kB maxprocesses infinity openfiles infinity sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kB Lachlan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 02:26:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7871016A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AC9E13C45B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 38512 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 02:26:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=Eai5BlrPPURrJr7ZzZsxflPJCdtYYB/KZOxGA9I/qsMzaGLdMQyhYW1UBrOItTUFqiYq3HtcAPbkElkLCFUVgoqeNgPf413ESzPIdZZfIxgSFfgNMKobLeQtiUMPZl+C7xVucpOlqVdIIe8xQQ5PCUuXUYlkVOXoB6RN8qyFk9Y= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@99.224.65.182 with login) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 02:26:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yFMCb0oVM1kJ1UGry6gxP.xn8x3bW9GjIg7pt1l46bTZHw.340Njnh8WcPodLa9xcg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tamouh H." To: References: <0d1801c85935$ed607700$6900a8c0@tamouh> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:26:28 -0500 Message-ID: <0ccb01c86867$addbc300$6900a8c0@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0d1801c85935$ed607700$6900a8c0@tamouh> Thread-Index: AchZNez1gprhbQxnQ1WHvM9x5mw4FgPMQ4cw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: Subject: RE: Support for Intel RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:26:06 -0000 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Anyone know if Intel 5000V chipset with ESB2 SATA 3.0 onboard=20 > RAID is supported on FreeBSD 6.2/6.3/7 ? >=20 > Last time I've checked on 6.1 it didn't work in RAID mode. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Tamouh Hakmi >=20 >=20 For anyone interested to know, FreeBSD 6.3 AMD64/i386 appears to support = the onboard ESB2 RAID chipset. FreeBSD will recognize all drives in the = RAID set and the controller as "ar0" I've tested this on SuperMicro 5015M-MT+ server: Chipset Intel 3000 (Mukilteo-2) chipset=20 ICH7R + PXH-V + IntelR 82573V + IntelR 82573L=20 =20 Serial ATA IntelR ICH7R SATA controller built-in=20 I'm not sure if it will work with 5000V chipset though. Tamouh=20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 03:02:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572DF16A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADEC13C467 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVS00242R3DODO0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:02:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:01:57 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:02:09 -0000 On Tuesday 05 February 2008 01:39:07 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: > >>> E. J. Cerejo wrote: > >>>> Is there a tutorial on how to configure compiz fusion on FBSD 6.3 / > >>>> gnome or fluxbox. > >>> > >>> 1. Use the port/package. > >>> 2. Every now and then I see messages fly by in which you can find > >>> exactly which flags/options to use. > >>> 3. You are right, there should be documentation... > >>> > >>> Alphons > >>> > >>> P.S. I found this stashed in a folder meant for future reference: > >>> > Assuming you have already setup you X server for composite, to run > >>> > compiz-fusion enter these commands: > >>> > > >>> > (as normal user) > >>> > > >>> > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-dekstop-hints ccp & > >>> > emerald --replace & > >>> > >>> Credits to Manolis Kiagias :-) > >> > >> Never thought this was such a sought-after feature :) > >> > >> Anyway, here is a quick article I just wrote: > >> > >> http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article.h > >>tml > >> > >> > >> Your feedback is welcome. > >> > >> Manolis > > > > I have it working now but there are two issues that I seem not to be > > able to solve. First compiz will start when x starts but emerald > > won't start and I get no window borders and can't move them. Solution > > is to open the terminal window and run emerald --replace &. Second > > issue is with compiz, I open ccsm to configure my 3d effects but they > > won't get saved, it will let me select them or unselect them but once > > I close ccsm and run it again every change is gone and the defaults > > are back. Any Ideas? Do the users have to be members of a special > > group? > > I run compiz by hand, I don't need it on all the time. I will > investigate these and get back to you. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us to run these commands as a regular user: compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp emerald --replace I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each of these commands, which will look like this: compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & emerald --replace & once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts functioning correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts compiz automatically and you will get all the window borders and you are able to save the settings using ccsm. Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these commands, compiz will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let you save any settings, another words if you run ccsm it won't let you select or unselect any plugins. Compiz command might be a little different for gnome. Gnome will also complain if you run these commands without installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, once you install this it will stop complainning. I will try to find out why I can't use ccsm and if I find out I will let you know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 03:54:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D167E16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from ns.beach.net (ns.beach.net [12.130.64.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B395713C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 03:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from [192.168.1.225] (host135 [209.200.204.135]) by ns.beach.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m163sDPh040282; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:54:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <020B7CD9-7C91-409E-BCFA-0FF18FFF41DB@dpcsys.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Busarow Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:54:10 -0700 To: lachlan@lkla.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:54:14 -0000 On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Lachlan Michael wrote: > >> On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Lachlan Michael wrote: >> >>> I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. >>> >>> When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to >>> a very >>> small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts >>> processing >>> with the error >>> MemoryError : out of memory >> >> [snip] >> >>> # limits >>> Resource limits (current): >>> cputime infinity secs >>> filesize infinity kB >>> datasize 524288 kB >>> stacksize 65536 kB >>> coredumpsize infinity kB >>> memoryuse infinity kB >>> memorylocked infinity kB >>> maxprocesses 5547 >>> openfiles 11095 >>> sbsize infinity bytes >>> vmemoryuse infinity kB >> >> Try running limits as the mailman user, not root. All the mailman >> programs run as your mailman user. > > Ok, but mailman is a nologin user. Should I change this temporarily > to check? > > # su mailman > This account is currently not available. > > I'm not sure about the syntax but limits -U mailman doesn't seem to > make > the user mailman, but just use the class default. > > # limits -U mailman > Resource limits for class default: > cputime infinity secs > filesize infinity kB > datasize infinity kB > stacksize infinity kB > coredumpsize infinity kB > memoryuse infinity kB > memorylocked infinity kB > maxprocesses infinity > openfiles infinity > sbsize infinity bytes > vmemoryuse infinity kB > Yes, change it so that you can su to mailman and then run limits again. You need to see what happens in the context of user mailman since that is what all the mailman programs will get. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 04:16:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D492616A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C6113C43E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m164GDnA031564; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:16:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.42 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:16:14 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38591.137.153.0.42.1202271374.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <020B7CD9-7C91-409E-BCFA-0FF18FFF41DB@dpcsys.com> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <020B7CD9-7C91-409E-BCFA-0FF18FFF41DB@dpcsys.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:16:14 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: "Dan Busarow" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:16:19 -0000 > On Feb 5, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Lachlan Michael wrote: >>> On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Lachlan Michael wrote: >>> >>>> I have a question about debugging a memory error on FreeBSD. >>>> >>>> When a user sends an e-mail with an attachment above about 500kB to >>>> a very >>>> small mailing list (4 members), Mailman on my server aborts >>>> processing >>>> with the error >>>> MemoryError : out of memory >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>> # limits >>>> Resource limits (current): >>>> cputime infinity secs >>>> filesize infinity kB >>>> datasize 524288 kB >>>> stacksize 65536 kB >>>> coredumpsize infinity kB >>>> memoryuse infinity kB >>>> memorylocked infinity kB >>>> maxprocesses 5547 >>>> openfiles 11095 >>>> sbsize infinity bytes >>>> vmemoryuse infinity kB >>> >>> Try running limits as the mailman user, not root. All the mailman >>> programs run as your mailman user. >> >> Ok, but mailman is a nologin user. Should I change this temporarily >> to check? >> >> # su mailman >> This account is currently not available. > > Yes, change it so that you can su to mailman and then run limits > again. You need to see what happens in the context of user mailman > since that is what all the mailman programs will get. Ok, with /bin/tcsh as the login shell the results are the same. Also tried csh and sh just to make sure. # su mailman %limits Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kB datasize 524288 kB stacksize 65536 kB coredumpsize infinity kB memoryuse infinity kB memorylocked infinity kB maxprocesses 5547 openfiles 11095 sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kB % These limits are pretty standard, right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 04:30:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940A516A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D4F13C447 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2479400fgg.35 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:30:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=NZMUln1bnhaLgyGtK+usqefbtQst+fZNKJxLT+GkPxg=; b=t+2ACClg3s91WZ0YNHrR/vy20GwZzLa7r3cCdvVcapQCHBfypk+aU+WgQW+s3e5FvFnlAvNodM+XqV8/2zuafzb4l2yNHOlQ0RWkcS2IRUjdMxAsU30En+XCQfnwtM4ymk9ZErBQf3vWQMReEgZonUiDxvSJ/zm3IhYAdXdnv0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=awLYxlMQpd6E9AEa6Upn6mClsH4rj6j/FSOjBkhvmrR/gtvFTOoo4hbVvX8JFuN4bLiKf4ef+gYkdKuNwyBkD2bw7oVxTVYrmkJQbtyiKX+67cAo5JUFGf9VakP1fXkhwhCd0q135nQvEMEx6I3u7K1NNy7TWmMZNV/Eh1MgG9g= Received: by 10.86.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr8627967fgb.45.1202272202982; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c7927920802052030p3784c8f6w1690ab706eb01811@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:30:02 -0500 From: "Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar" Sender: bhuvaneswari.ramkumar@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7c7927920802050905g6bf8c3aeu484efd1d80f98281@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7c7927920802040954u948a5ebga929f11a2fa76a45@mail.gmail.com> <200802041929.32973.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041036v79bc635h34c51f747384b0ad@mail.gmail.com> <200802042041.57804.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7c7927920802041930y1b209944ice740f47d006cf83@mail.gmail.com> <20080205072409.73621f48@scorpio> <7c7927920802050905g6bf8c3aeu484efd1d80f98281@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 83cc036ae999d2c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Libnet in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:30:04 -0000 Question: do I need to set the cflag & libs options in the libnet-config file for the compiling and linking to happen correctly ? Bhuvana On Feb 5, 2008 12:05 PM, Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > ok after that e-mail last night, I did try a make of the ports collection > libnet > after the make, everything looked fine, atleast I didnt notice anything > missing in the log or config files but I still see the same problem, " > undefined reference to libnet_init" and msgs liks that for every libnet > call. I used -lnet too, but of no use, even did the changes in make file > that mel had suggested in the previous post. > > So I dont know what the problem here is or if this is some incompatibility > between how i have BSD and how I have libnet or probably they are not > linking together or something like that. > > Otherwise I dont see why the compiler doesnt recognize any libnet function > calls. > > Here is a question I have, I've worked in TinyOS before and I'm wondering > if in Libnet we need a separate directory for each application with its own > custom-written make file, or things can just be in one pool from where they > are compiled. I do a simple cc -lnet filename.c compile. > Is there something else I'm missing here ? > Thanks > Bhuvana > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 04:43:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE5616A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF90913C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 12069 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2008 20:17:15 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 12059, pid: 12060, t: 2.1559s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net. X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bv1zbXpalXXIMASu8x4A:9 a=lVM0t41lNCNVQJSymeY-DxfUOVkA:4 a=GL-Re4spl-cA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp2 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2008 20:17:12 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.9] (tagalong.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.9]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C15B1648A1; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47A934C7.70707@mykitchentable.net> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:17:11 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200802022111.21862.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080203173245.U1631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080204133351.P7781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080204162233.M8365@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080204162233.M8365@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:43:56 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: [snip] >>> mirror. that's all. >> >> Which doesn't really address the issue of what happens if a drive >> that is >> part of a big ZFS is removed (because it's broken). > > it will say "read error" on all files and directories that happened > to be placed on that disk! Just to be clear, ZFS pools contain one or more VDEVs (Virtual devices). Each VDEV consists of one or more physical partitions and can be configured as a mirror, stripe, stripe with one parity, or stripe with 2 parity. ZFS does striping with no parity across all VDEVs in the pool. Thus with ZFS, if you lose a VDEV, you lose the whole pool. Hopefully that clears things up a bit. Cheers, Drew [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 04:47:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9754016A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB0E13C4DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202878012.92687@ecxV/EjETA3W0VY3MFe+PQ Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m164kq2f097202; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:46:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080205224528.024eb240@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:46:36 -0600 To: Eugen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:47:00 -0000 At 07:24 PM 2/5/2008, Eugen wrote: >Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me >with my "behind a router" problem ? Should I post it again ? >Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable >system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. > >Respectfully, >Eugen Eugen, I saw your post but was too busy to respond then. If you give me the details, and what you have in your /etc/rc.conf for the ethernet I will try to help. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 04:49:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA7D16A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F913C474 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-365503.home.otenet.gr [87.202.155.148]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m164nm6T031617; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: <47A93C6C.8050003@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:49:48 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:49:52 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 01:39:07 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> >>> Manolis Kiagias wrote: >>> >>>> Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: >>>> >>>>> E. J. Cerejo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a tutorial on how to configure compiz fusion on FBSD 6.3 / >>>>>> gnome or fluxbox. >>>>>> >>>>> 1. Use the port/package. >>>>> 2. Every now and then I see messages fly by in which you can find >>>>> exactly which flags/options to use. >>>>> 3. You are right, there should be documentation... >>>>> >>>>> Alphons >>>>> >>>>> P.S. I found this stashed in a folder meant for future reference: >>>>> >>>>>> Assuming you have already setup you X server for composite, to run >>>>>> compiz-fusion enter these commands: >>>>>> >>>>>> (as normal user) >>>>>> >>>>>> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-dekstop-hints ccp & >>>>>> emerald --replace & >>>>>> >>>>> Credits to Manolis Kiagias :-) >>>>> >>>> Never thought this was such a sought-after feature :) >>>> >>>> Anyway, here is a quick article I just wrote: >>>> >>>> http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article.h >>>> tml >>>> >>>> >>>> Your feedback is welcome. >>>> >>>> Manolis >>>> >>> I have it working now but there are two issues that I seem not to be >>> able to solve. First compiz will start when x starts but emerald >>> won't start and I get no window borders and can't move them. Solution >>> is to open the terminal window and run emerald --replace &. Second >>> issue is with compiz, I open ccsm to configure my 3d effects but they >>> won't get saved, it will let me select them or unselect them but once >>> I close ccsm and run it again every change is gone and the defaults >>> are back. Any Ideas? Do the users have to be members of a special >>> group? >>> >> I run compiz by hand, I don't need it on all the time. I will >> investigate these and get back to you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> > > I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us to run > these commands as a regular user: > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp > emerald --replace > > I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each of these > commands, which will look like this: > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & > emerald --replace & > > once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts functioning > correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts compiz automatically > and you will get all the window borders and you are able to save the settings > using ccsm. > > Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these commands, compiz > will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let you save any settings, > another words if you run ccsm it won't let you select or unselect any > plugins. Compiz command might be a little different for gnome. > Gnome will also complain if you run these commands without > installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, once you install this it > will stop complainning. I will try to find out why I can't use ccsm and if I > find out I will let you know. > I don't know about KDE, but I am using compiz-fusion (manually) in gnome without having installed ubuntulooks. Thanks for your investigation and feedback. If you come up with a complete set of settings, I will update the article. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 05:15:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762E216A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DDB13C468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m165FiCK090165; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:15:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id O+gCamBuO9yK; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m165Fc7l090161; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:15:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:15:33 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eugen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:15:46 -0000 Eugen wrote: > Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me > with my "behind a router" problem ? Should I post it again ? > Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable > system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. > > Respectfully, > Eugen Hello. I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble. Have you attempted static assignment to another address, such as 192.168.1.38 (something not 33, but within your "pool")? # ifconfig dc0 down # ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 255.255.255.0 # ping 192.168.1.1 What does `arp -a` say? Does ping work if you call it with `ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1`? What does `traceroute 192.168.1.1` give you? And, I've only seen output for the one interface (maybe I overlooked something in your posts), what is the output of "ifconfig -a" --- is there some other interface that could be causing route problems and therefore "network unreachable" from ping(8)? It does seem rather odd, so I wonder if there's something we are all overlooking. Since no one but you is there, we can't tell you what it is, but only guess. Maybe something above will give us all a clue :-) Also respectfully, ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -- Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 05:26:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BC316A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A2213C4D9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB26D1CC5B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:10:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id k3jy+eMZWfln for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:10:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from rivendell (c-a30471d5.019-61-68617010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.113.4.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAAD1CC39 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:10:13 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <006401c8687e$a5613b80$0a0aa8c0@ENDOR.SWAGMAN.ORG> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <2BEC782D7FCA2F905539D12A@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:10:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:26:32 -0000 >> what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for >> general use? > > I have always, and continue to, used Altavista. I like the ability > to quote search terms and narrow the search to only what I'm looking > for. I use Google when I need to do "search term site:utdallas.edu" > for something, but other than that, I use Altavista. Don't know > what tracking they do, though. What Paul says... And I haven't yet seen any "Ads by Altavista" stuff in any of the sites I've visited. For what it's worth Altavista gives quite similar results as Google in general searches - and much more applicable results when using +, - and "foobar" search terms. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 05:45:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004FF16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95B013C467 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.107.210.24]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JVS00D8GYMPOEO5@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:44:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:44:49 -0500 From: Francois-Xavier Charpentier de Beauville In-reply-to: <20080205091416.D1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> To: Wojciech Puchar Message-id: <47A94951.70605@charpentier-de-beauville.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <47A7D343.1090603@charpentier-de-beauville.com> <20080205091416.D1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Preserving file permissions with dump and restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: francois-xavier@charpentier-de-beauville.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:45:42 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a box with three hard drives: >> /dev/da0 - dedicated to the OS >> /dev/ad4s1e - data drive - mounted as /store >> /dev/ad5s1e - hold a backup of /dev/ad4 - mounted as /backup >> >> I used 'dump' to backup everything from /store to /backup with the >> following command: >> dump -0aun -f /backup/fullbackup /store >> >> As expected, the result is a dump file called 'fullbackup' >> >> Then I tested a restore, by restoring the fullbackup file from >> /backup to /store. I did the following: >> 1) made /store pristine: newfs -U /dev/ad4s1e >> 2) mounted /dev/ad4s1e on /store >> 3) cd into /store >> 4) ran the command: restore -r -uv -f /backup/fullbackup >> 5) remove 'restoresymtable' from /store >> >> Thanks in advance for your help > > you did restore as root? (i think so but just for sure) > > it is something wrong with restore then, i used it many times and it > restore everything. > > > anyway - rsync is good tool to make exact copy of directory tree > Actually yes, I did restore as root. All ownership info and permissions are reset during restore, and none of the original permissions are back. This kind of weird since the OS drive hasn't changed. So, there are the same users setup on the system. Any thoughts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 06:11:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84A116A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93C813C4E1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so2404752wri.3 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:11:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NeX4+Kr4fgkIXQicD7i1NimJ+GyBkFH8N8d/eUBBwb0=; b=Lxh+RwYCkimNDJGsqJKSLpW+4zsHE2JEwft5QJH2TuNF7ZD1RbuVbxjy7y0VfOzlTR7WDOtimfVB/marEfuJVluHlJr/kwTtJvjta2SUzQJusIlX/JlRGn7KPFhBmWDw++Bsp/FuVQEqo24LvF+OJbxaW2MBeXFIwbBKnhgNZFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JEsAR3Uv4I9xbPCBtYdFglr52n967alFS+afDW4Hwiy9kDOPnqXrqPMed564FcjEFKyRE6q5u90NeMLwe9dIdHZGGngGuQ0sW9k/X92uhDiqMxXiw3DXZXflilIr+3xOv36qPP2QHqKwnHU3s7EKkwoyhQDB5QotbbO3BIoxIPg= Received: by 10.151.9.1 with SMTP id m1mr3992825ybi.81.1202278273824; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:11:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:41:13 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-binup@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:11:15 -0000 Hi, I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2. *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ? Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ? I would prefer a way by which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling. Thanks, Navneet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 06:26:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C631016A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rkramer@mweb.com) Received: from mwbmarshal.mweb.com (mwbmarshal.mweb.com [196.2.141.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6A713C478 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rkramer@mweb.com) Received: from mwbfes1.mweb.com (Not Verified[196.2.141.73]) by mwbmarshal.mweb.com with NetIQ MailMarshal 6.0 Service Pack 1 (v6, 0, 3, 28) id ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:11:42 +0200 Received: from MWBEXCH.mweb.com ([196.2.141.75]) by mwbfes1.mweb.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:11:42 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:11:41 +0200 Message-ID: <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A05AD5555@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Host interface resetting - Asus nx 1101 (stge) Thread-Index: AchmcKamTWqZNrmSSHuLbDNWHZ8pEgCFJG4w References: <47A5CADA.7010401@wilderness.homeip.net> From: "Rudi Kramer - MWEB" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2008 06:11:42.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[24A07BB0:01C86887] Cc: Subject: Host interface resetting - Asus nx 1101 (stge) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:26:50 -0000 Hello, I recently purchased a Asus NX 1101 nic for a intel pc I have at home. The motherboard is a intel gigabyte GA-8I945GMF and I'm running FreeBSD 6.3 RELEASE. The card is correctly using the stge driver but whenever I try and bring the interface up I get the following message " host interface error resetting" repeated over and over again and I have to reboot the server. I tested the card on an AMD gigabyte board (K8M800-8237), also running FreeBSD 6.3 and the card runs perfectly. I checked dmesg and also /var/logl/message and I couldn't find anything useful, any ideas? Rudi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 08:23:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161B216A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D756F13C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so2436018wri.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:23:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Alzo/ADo+poy+g4lGfmCqadzl5YpCVY18jhoe+CVnjY=; b=r4pIav9A0TaFHptW8KMj/Z6jVEg223ve9kbQDyARLq52w3HV1XlbYzc/oTcd0LWpv+ZP+fN0lBZ+xphuPR1hinOOMNii3RTxSU7cT0q1nn/6Oz0nMkJJ4Ir+j/t8/Q8eT/jSCXs29GiKlLiFfmvevuByq0sD27D7fUqVgmJseMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XDOiLQNIbLIYEyu5VuMj9lIvi8Qj7DtILo5/QlBfH2tZi93Qn9MutpgWGqwnsSn98/IaxKWTdnTT8Ccg11aCXHgRoRskKCqUEhLlfhvcSYs9aUBQeuq0Y9R5HYwyrLvwrb21iKzccOW/OooW85DASzaaiVNpli5p803VMT/hAP0= Received: by 10.151.62.8 with SMTP id p8mr901780ybk.124.1202286195751; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.26.19 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:23:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0802060023la9565efv539a64b5e5bfe5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:23:15 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:23:17 -0000 Hi Wojciech, On 06/02/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general > use? > I like clusty.com. It's a meta search engine that queries other search engines with the keywords given. It processes the results, creates a new ranking according to the results of all search engines. And it creates clusters of the results that give different directions. Very nice, I think. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 08:40:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A727F16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7077813C4E3 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so2441030wxd.7 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:40:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=B1zZogo4y59S0y7VTc7ykMNnOIcdu38d+rEUyu/xNBA=; b=DOQ9pMXgOoiICjtrW/jxqx0NT1uN0vq86fFwIL7e5IvBlEjr05W4dL1afYFTJrgsbw7+5M4cQo3UnBxs+4jGnKnWZxpPLE87xPYNVcJjMndfhBLrHW9dpUQJOJrlAga00lp7DDT6Qr6unkpM3zJdOqX629YFaHQXfCajX4eZaYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mH9aic0NwLolA5fJe/6pQMedi1OiMjq1hpzkKkaQz31wFK84HsefQO4OhKAeJyMCwk1qD1qjL5j8cfbgJ3JokJiPHHAjm5fKhSVikyb8K9ucUWLqSBQuUxAbv/sMBZppIKL2Y3pwLClLo3gKEVK8667ecvo1vWdrKNMpCeAfdzI= Received: by 10.70.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr6128923wxb.34.1202287219265; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.71.13 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:40:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <230174700802060040x4f2a0815r1a4bdc7fccf62b5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:10:19 +0530 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_(Shantanoo)?=" To: "navneet Upadhyay" In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:40:21 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2. > *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ? > > Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ? I would prefer a way by > which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling. > You may try portupgrade which can handle upgrades for you. more info on: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html regards, shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 09:29:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DE516A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2058A13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m169SnGV002037; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:28:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m169Sjvf002034; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:28:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:28:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Reko Turja In-Reply-To: <006401c8687e$a5613b80$0a0aa8c0@ENDOR.SWAGMAN.ORG> Message-ID: <20080206102817.J2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <2BEC782D7FCA2F905539D12A@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <006401c8687e$a5613b80$0a0aa8c0@ENDOR.SWAGMAN.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:29:53 -0000 > of the sites I've visited. For what it's worth Altavista gives quite similar > results as Google in general searches - and much more applicable results when > using +, - and "foobar" search terms. > thank you all very much. i found altavista ok for me, and no more captchas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 09:38:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FCE16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCAE13C46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m169auUd002070; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m169asSd002067; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Osterholm In-Reply-To: <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> Message-ID: <20080206103009.G2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:38:43 -0000 > being. Without an ISP's help, they won't know who owns your IP well it's enough to do whois to know in my case. anyway - i don't sell drugs or plan to attack with a nuke - but anyway i don't want to be monitored! tor and/or anonymous proxies does the good job for me, except i can't use google this way. > address. If your ISP is willing to give you up to anyone who asks, > I'd be worried about more than just Google. > > What are the laws in your country like regarding this? in our funny country - Poland - law encourages all ISP to record everything, but the same law doesn't have any punishment for doing so. it's actually law created for those who like to monitor everyone, changing what would be otherwise crime - to requirement. As i'm a small ISP myself, i should record EVERYTHING my users transmit. ignoring local LAN transmissions that can't be easily controlled at all, in theory i should write about 20 DVD's daily if i would really do tcpdump everything. of course law dont say who will pay 600PLN/month for cheap DVD's only, not mentioning one half-time job for just recording it ;) i don't archive anything for a long term, i just do backups to protect from data loss, nothing more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 09:51:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF38716A421; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A7613C455; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87E571CC031; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:51:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:51:33 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "??????????????? (Shantanoo)" Message-ID: <20080206095133.GA94134@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> <230174700802060040x4f2a0815r1a4bdc7fccf62b5d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <230174700802060040x4f2a0815r1a4bdc7fccf62b5d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-binup@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:51:33 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 02:10:19PM +0530, ??????????????? (Shantanoo) wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > Hi, > > I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2. > > *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ? > > > > Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ? I would prefer a way by > > which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling. > > > > You may try portupgrade which can handle upgrades for you. > more info on: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html Sigh... why do people always recommend portupgrade to users without telling them of the caveats? I grow tired of this. So let's tell Navneet exactly what he's getting into, shall we? portupgrade: - Written in Ruby, which not many UNIX admins are familiar with (compared to, say, perl). If portupgrade has a bug, you will need to speak Ruby. - Ruby is not included in the base system; you have to install it from ports (read: just another thing to have to maintain...) ports base system: - C-based, and includes all of the pkg_* utilities. Nearly every FreeBSD user/administrator is familiar with these tools. - gcc comes with the base system. portupgrade: - Maintains its own database of ports installed, dependencies, and so on -- COMPLETELY separate from that of the ports base system. - Said database must be kept in sync with ports base system dependencies and other whatnots; and if they go out of sync (which happens regularly as can be confirmed by the never-ending supply of posts to freebsd-ports@ about portupgrade problems), you get to read incredibly cryptic error messages from Ruby. - Said database is Berkeley DB-based, which means you have to install Oracle/Sleepycat BDB from ports. (I believe you can pick DB1.x which comes with libc, but it's not recommended due to bugs). ports base system: - Uses flat text files in /var/db/pkg and /var/db/ports. The reason portupgrade uses its own database is supposedly due to the shortcomings/oversights of the existing ports system, and that's a legitimate point.. But my opinion is that these shortcomings/oversights should be addressed in the ports system and not via some third-party tool which adds unnecessary complexities and more headaches. Thus, I would suggest people go with the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) method, and consider using tools which are written in languages which come with the base system (e.g. C or sh) -- but even more importantly, use and rely solely on the ports base system. One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug Barton. It's actively maintained and written in sh. Its author is quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug reports and feature requests. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 10:14:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B262916A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AE613C4E8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2095157rvb.43 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:14:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lUe5E1FDfECbA97vWf2F/mY72Dk3mK1B21rYqg1a4/c=; b=kaImd+/kYkMfj65I7AMRbMM1vOBeMeZ9L24PdGLTnJCHox4yShKW0wEUTNITMPhUIPGe0DJp7PV+6w5X4HB8g2/Li1AA0+M9dqK3S9jj2N6FiZlhBETQGceo0CLkKHWtaStOF7vwmNKo1xghcWM/GbvDWnd2+B/Bne6UvsBj/I8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mEzBBXo3pmSSm2OFAdOV7OmwZnm2a/9MogXID4Vwg6QKsss5rAvQqZaWKTbz6sz8bHX6e964c2xOSoj47uP08lVV8R5cAr+nerxHQoAWdSCXypLqWcW+Jh6YnQR31eKpt8dbZfTqTHnqzC4+IT/OgCkAg3cuyLDvAKU++xT5tec= Received: by 10.141.202.12 with SMTP id e12mr6491523rvq.65.1202292894517; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.141.7 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 02:14:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:14:54 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Andy L" In-Reply-To: <783009.73888.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <783009.73888.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question UART: please read from Bottom Up! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:14:55 -0000 On 05/02/2008, Andy L wrote: > Question for UART (where do I begin this process?) > > > Ok, > you > could > get > the > same > functionality OKAY! I LIKE IT! -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 11:06:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A78016A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C45013C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E456CE0125; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:06:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 04:06:55 -0700 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080206110655.GA2410@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080206103009.G2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206103009.G2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:06:59 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:36:54AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> address. If your ISP is willing to give you up to anyone who asks, >> I'd be worried about more than just Google. >> >> What are the laws in your country like regarding this? > > in our funny country - Poland - law encourages all ISP to record > everything, but the same law doesn't have any punishment for doing so. > > it's actually law created for those who like to monitor everyone, changing > what would be otherwise crime - to requirement. > > As i'm a small ISP myself, i should record EVERYTHING my users transmit. IANA(P)L, but if Poland implements the EU data retention directive 2006/24/EC, its laws should only require ISPs to save connection data, i.e. who communicated with whom and when (source-ip:port, dest-ip:port, time stamp), and who got assigned which IP, but not the data itself (the payload): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention The main purpose being to enable law enforcement agencies to do traffic analysis and mass surveillance in our brave new Orwellized 1984-esque world. In most EU countries, ISPs are NOT (yet?) required to save the payload itself; and may even be prohibited to do so under privacy / data protection statutes without special overriding court order. As an ISP, you should *really* check with a specialized lawyer and err on the side of caution. Laws can be tricky, wherever you operate. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 11:26:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DFF16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569FE13C45E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 1348077/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.163.6 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.163.6 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAB8oqUc+8aMG/2dsb2JhbACuBQ X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.163.6]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 11:26:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06B1E000087; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:26:10 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9994E.3070607@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:26:06 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Isom References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Xorg NV driver problems GeForce 6200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:26:12 -0000 Joshua Isom wrote: > On a slightly off note, my BIOS seems to want to hide the integrated > graphics if an AGP card is attached, even though I've had it working > fine. Is there a way to be able to use the integrated graphics even > though an AGP card is attached? Is it detected by FreeBSD? What's the output of pciconf -lv? It should be pretty easy to spot. If it's not detected then there's not much FreeBSD can do, I would think. Play with the BIOS; complain to the manufacturer; remove the NVidia card.... I have had no end of trouble with a 6600; nv did start but locked up inside 5 mins - haven't tried 7.3 yet. nvidia on i386 will stop getting interrupts after heavy ethernet traffic which only seemed to happen after I went SMP; thread on the nvidia forums ends with no particular resolution. Sympathy, but no help :-( --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 11:34:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9486016A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2198513C45D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 34897067/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.32 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALspqUc+8aIg/2dsb2JhbACuAQ X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.32]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 11:34:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EC7E0000A2; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:34:42 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:34:38 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lachlan@lkla.org References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:34:48 -0000 Lachlan Michael wrote: ># su mailman >This account is currently not available. > >I'm not sure about the syntax but limits -U mailman doesn't seem to make >the user mailman, but just use the class default. > > su -m mailman will do what you want. However, to be sure what your limits are, I would stick ulimit -a in the script that starts mailman, just to be sure. If the output from that is reasonable, and it doesn't seem to be messing with limits anywhere, then that's probably not the problem. Perhaps it's something about the attachment itself. Can you try some different, similarly sized, attachment? How big does the mailman process actually get? top will tell you. Python and mailman presumably came from ports? Last I looked, python had a build option HUGE_STACK_SIZE which I've needed for some apps in the distant past, IIRC. Can you re-install python with that opt and see if it helps? (It's just a SWAG, and could be wrong!). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 12:01:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA3116A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7523A13C4CE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16Boven002735; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:50:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16BoAil002731; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:50:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:50:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20080206110655.GA2410@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <20080206124601.S2729@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080206103009.G2022@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206110655.GA2410@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:01:18 -0000 >> what would be otherwise crime - to requirement. >> >> As i'm a small ISP myself, i should record EVERYTHING my users transmit. > > IANA(P)L, but if Poland implements the EU data retention directive > 2006/24/EC, its laws should only require ISPs to save connection data, > i.e. who communicated with whom and when (source-ip:port, dest-ip:port, > time stamp), and who got assigned which IP, but not the data itself > (the payload): i don't know if it implements it, i just know current law that exist today, static that you have to record TRAFFIC. this is nonsense. but this is LAW. > traffic analysis and mass surveillance in our brave new Orwellized > 1984-esque world. Orwell just missed the date. and only this. > > In most EU countries, ISPs are NOT (yet?) required to save the payload > itself; and may even be prohibited to do so under privacy / data > protection statutes without special overriding court order. As an ISP, All Polish "free mail" services (and i'm sure all world-wide like goolag-mail) records every mail they ever process. not just connection data. i'm sure about it as i've seen police showing printed someone's mail body from over year ago from @wp.pl > you should *really* check with a specialized lawyer and err on the > side of caution. Laws can be tricky, wherever you operate. i checked a year ago - i though i did it carefully. but i will recheck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 10:04:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF0A16A418; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F7E13C46E; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16A357a002136; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:03:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16A33ft002133; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:03:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:03:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20080206095133.GA94134@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Message-ID: <20080206110215.T2130@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> <230174700802060040x4f2a0815r1a4bdc7fccf62b5d@mail.gmail.com> <20080206095133.GA94134@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:40:43 +0000 Cc: navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:04:08 -0000 while i usually did this think manually i would try portmaster next time i will need an upgrade. and - thanks to your explanation - i will avoid portupgrade. thank you. > > One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug > Barton. It's actively maintained and written in sh. Its author is > quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug > reports and feature requests. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 12:45:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77B516A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338DB13C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16CjZwO069972; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:45:36 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.25 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:45:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <28742.137.153.0.25.1202301936.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:45:36 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:45:43 -0000 > Lachlan Michael wrote: > >># su mailman >>This account is currently not available. >> >>I'm not sure about the syntax but limits -U mailman doesn't seem to make >>the user mailman, but just use the class default. >> >> > su -m mailman > > will do what you want. Ah, thanks! That's a much better way to do it. The result was unchanged however. > However, to be sure what your limits are, I > would stick ulimit -a in the script that starts mailman, just to be > sure. If the output from that is reasonable, and it doesn't seem to be > messing with limits anywhere, then that's probably not the problem. I start mailman as /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman start I put ulimit -a in that script, and the values were the same as previous reported. # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman start cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited file size (512-blocks, -f) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 524288 stack size (kbytes, -s) 65536 core file size (512-blocks, -c) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max user processes (-u) 5547 open files (-n) 11095 virtual mem size (kbytes, -v) unlimited sbsize (bytes, -b) unlimited > Perhaps it's something about the attachment itself. Can you try some > different, similarly sized, attachment? Different attachments produce the same result. > How big does the mailman process actually get? top will tell you. Mailman values don't budge. None of the mailman processes go over about 8.5M, which is what they are during idle time. > Python and mailman presumably came from ports? Yes. > Last I looked, python > had a build option HUGE_STACK_SIZE which I've needed for some apps in > the distant past, IIRC. Can you re-install python with that opt and see > if it helps? (It's just a SWAG, and could be wrong!). I saw that too, and am currently running with it enabled. It doesn't seem to make a difference though. Thanks for all the tips! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 13:31:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246716A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9FC13C468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 36998 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 13:31:32 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 36957, pid: 36994, t: 0.1450s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:5373 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-10-87.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.87) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2008 13:31:32 -0000 Message-ID: <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:31:23 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:31:37 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what search engines, other than Google, do you find useful for general use? > > google simply don't like to talk with me, when i like to use anything to > protect my privacy. i don't abuse this service, but i don't like google > tracing what i search, when and why. > > it started maybe week ago, so i have to use something else. I started using google when it was still a cgi, I was a big fan. I have not used anything google for several years now. No gmail, no Picassa, nothing I can avoid. No deep political reasons, just a personal choice. I have used Yahoo for quite a awhile and been very happy with the results I get. At least I've not gone wanting for info because of my search engine choice. DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 13:40:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E7916A477 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA3813C4F2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so475696tid.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:40:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=v1ANbCQh+6IV9X/6sE+Yu43J+5VaE+LetTPwHtp4aNI=; b=oZ59ST0v+yd0SxUMvEBPxtq+TpbbBo9dm+XzrvgYYcIDPW8b0qCkU86njb0diTi96nUagLeuxPBGLvNva/TTKmZ0fefgZwkvtu8zI0qznJ4+bR5kCvyLRB0IgREnwC2SGAxvFxUdQ+2FPxuuUlt9JVRuoCoq7N/Pgqyg6Gvt4mg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pHqoEG7CbGUtSqrQCaFhII5/TwJlVDrf66JlMVqIQ9K6Eq+NQxvYas5vS+BduDeZnsapkz4BslLdPEys73a6OE4PQctFEPHwD8feuuY0wDuo51FbB032vcfmnCKmkJgiHM8c85sUY7ssO8V3450681+ZipqDiCTWN2fd/ZtwKg8= Received: by 10.150.140.6 with SMTP id n6mr4192904ybd.33.1202305252097; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 05:40:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:40:52 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> Cc: Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:40:56 -0000 Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my initial cry for help. Eugen ### Console options keymap="us.iso" font8x8="NO" font8x14="NO" font8x16="NO" scrnmap="NO" keyrate="fast" cursor="blink" blanktime="900" saver="warp" ### Mouse daemon mousechar_start="NO" moused_enable="NO" moused_flags="" moused_port="/dev/sysmouse" moused_type="auto" ### IPv6 options ipv6_enable="NO" ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" ### PF firewall # pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load module if required) # pf_flags="" # additional flags for pfctl startup # pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules definition file for pf # pflog_enable="YES" # start pflogd(8) # pflog_flags="" # additional flags for pflogd startup # pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd should store the logfile ### Miscellaneous administrative options kern_securelevel="-1" # range: -1..3 ; `-1' is the most insecure kern_securelevel_enable="NO" # kernel security level (see init(8)), local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. devfs_system_ruleset="devfsrules_local" # The name of a ruleset to apply to /dev dmesg_enable="YES" # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot update_motd="YES" # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) virecover_enable="NO" # Perform housekeeping for the vi(1) editor usbd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags="" # Flags to usbd (if enabled). lpd_enable="YES" On Feb 5, 2008 11:15 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Eugen wrote: > > Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me > > with my "behind a router" problem ? Should I post it again ? > > Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable > > system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. > > > > Respectfully, > > Eugen > > Hello. I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble. > > Have you attempted static assignment to another address, such as > 192.168.1.38 (something not 33, but within your "pool")? > > # ifconfig dc0 down > # ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 255.255.255.0 > # ping 192.168.1.1 > > What does `arp -a` say? Does ping work if you call it with > `ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1`? What does `traceroute 192.168.1.1` > give you? And, I've only seen output for the one interface > (maybe I overlooked something in your posts), what is the > output of "ifconfig -a" --- is there some other interface > that could be causing route problems and therefore "network > unreachable" from ping(8)? > > It does seem rather odd, so I wonder if there's something we > are all overlooking. Since no one but you is there, we can't > tell you what it is, but only guess. Maybe something > above will give us all a clue :-) > > Also respectfully, ;-) > > Kevin Kinsey > -- > Conscience doth make cowards of us all. > -- Shakespeare > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 13:57:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688DA16A480 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82BE13C46E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 1497074/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.163.6 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.163.6 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAFZLqUc+8aMG/2dsb2JhbACSBZt0 X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.163.6]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 13:57:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7B0E000083; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9BCB0.8020309@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:57:04 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lachlan@lkla.org References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> <28742.137.153.0.25.1202301936.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <28742.137.153.0.25.1202301936.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:57:12 -0000 Lachlan Michael wrote: >>How big does the mailman process actually get? top will tell you. >> >> > >Mailman values don't budge. None of the mailman processes go over about >8.5M, which is what they are during idle time. > > Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. Try running top, then sorting on size (o size inside top) then try your mailman email again. Make sure the top refresh rate is fast enough. s 1 inside top would do that, or even s 0 if desperate. Other things to try: Up the stack size ulimit -s 262144 inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which needed this. You'd have to check that from a shell (/bin/sh) and first to see that your system will allow a bigger value. If not, I believe that there is a sysctl to do that these days but don't have a modern enough system to look it up. A search for MAXSSIZ on google or mail archives may turn it up - that's the kernel option but requires a recompile. Of course, limits may not be the issue at all. They are a likely suspect given your error message, but maybe it's worth checking other bits of the mail system. Can you email a file of the size your are trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the process that is dying, but I suspect mailman forks a new process to deal with the email so how you catch it, I don't know. Many demons have a "run in foreground without forking" option which can be helpful to debugging, but I don't know if anything like that is possible in mailman. If you can figure out what mailman actually runs to process the email, you could ktrace that from the command line. Maybe the mailman mailing list could give you an incantation to try. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:00:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8545416A420; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.186.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D1E13C4DB; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id m16E0BqD004341; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:00:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:00:11 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Kurt Jaeger Message-ID: <20080206140011.GI3734@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20080205162327.GF94606@pcjas.obspm.fr> <20080205163725.GK1757@home.c0mplx.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080205163725.GK1757@home.c0mplx.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.186.2]); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:00:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92, clamav-milter version 0.92 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use two interface with jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:00:38 -0000 Le 05/02/2008 à 17:37:25+0100, Kurt Jaeger a écrit > Hi! > > > How can I make > > > > all traffic from the server/for the server pass through the first > > interface > > > > all traffic from the jail /for the jail pass through the second > > interface. > > > > In fact : How can make two «default router» on for the server, another for > > all jail. > > Assuming you can use ipfw, here's an example: > > - Interfaces: > if1: 192.168.1.1, gateway 192.168.1.254 > if2: 192.168.2.1, gateway 192.168.2.254 > - system uses 192.168.1.254 as its default gateway. > - IP-ranges for jails are in the 192.168.2.0/24 range. > - Then add the following ipfw rule: > > /sbin/ipfw add 1000 fwd 192.168.2.254 ip from 192.168.2.0/24 to any out via if2 > > Give it a try. Thanks for your help. It's working. I'm using pf (old habit) and with this single ligne pass out route-to (bce1 router_address) from to ! network_CIDR it's working. Thanks. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:10:02 -0000 Hi, I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system startup. I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to rc.conf file. How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:12:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC8416A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3331A13C504 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16ECOMT082968; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47A9C052.60609@highperformance.net> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:12:34 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:12:31 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2. > *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ? > > Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ? I would prefer a way by > which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling. Uninstall reinstall takes all of five seconds. It's quite easy. Any of the ports management software has to do some variety of this anyway. The only difference is they do it with one command. #!/bin/sh pkg_delete pkg-1.1 pkg_add pkg-1.2 There! A new port management binary upgrade utility. The usefulness of the port management apps (portmaster,portupgrade) is when you want to upgrade multiple ports and large amounts of dependencies all at once. They are more trouble than they are worth for a single package. That is, unless you are already using them. Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:22:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ECC16A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B24D13C4D1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JMlAc-0006Rp-Pe; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:22:38 +0100 Message-ID: <47A9C2A2.1070100@gahr.ch> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:22:26 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay , User Questions References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD9155C2A77350280E483E40A" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:22:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD9155C2A77350280E483E40A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, Hello, > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system= > startup. >=20 > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - >=20 > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" >=20 >=20 > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD >=20 > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > rc.conf file. >=20 > How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? you just edit rc.conf and you add a line in the form _enable=3D"YES" Then you place the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d at the bottom of the rc(8) man page there are a few examples on how to build such a script. --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enigD9155C2A77350280E483E40A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHqcKlwMJqmJVx944RCk9QAJ9aHnTOrqcSOjNS6JxMBAdWKKcjJwCeKi1Y 4qnRfDYG99ecYJi1C1Y+gJE= =BH1k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD9155C2A77350280E483E40A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:23:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7FF16A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F38213C4EC for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202912582.6174@Ovz2Wl9QcQgKSd3eY60cpw Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16EN2iC007904; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:23:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206081827.02516d20@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:22:44 -0600 To: "navneet Upadhyay" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:23:12 -0000 At 08:09 AM 2/6/2008, navneet Upadhyay wrote: >Hi, > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system >startup. > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > >1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. >2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > >I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > >chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to >rc.conf file. > >How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? You don't need any command. Depending on the version of FreeBSD, put your script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and if you are using earlier than 6.X FreeBSD name the script chckconfig.sh You can name it in the same in 6.X and 7.X and it will work. Be sure the script is chmod'd (usually 755) to execute. Since your script runs without a known environment be sure to either use full pathnames for executables or set the path in your script. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:31:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866F316A468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B2E13C4F6 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16ETSOf003791; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:29:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16ETEvG003764; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:29:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:29:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:31:20 -0000 > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > startup. > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > rc.conf file. you have to 1) make your own service started in /etc/rc.d (look at others for example) 2) simply add what's needed to rc.local From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:33:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F9D16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CC913C4D9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so409747ika.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:33:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6DuCC50zZj4Pt5vQ+2ifhY5brxZVk7mt3aftkS65tV4=; b=uFEnj5ktOpG91B78b0AuzPhgjV+/ATc8CQ06Mb+wamamXug5D1blITMVPKZHN2I4w85NSfYGJ5I8JoeGbZ8gigKYG4Zhh/1BoyCkPg3ywRZaEAw7ZLYuE6NZLmasf7EBMWf20HCJFyophYM1Xc/Wy5UnsdvSADzqhEUFReRLTdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CSN3Yce4OITxNcxja7TtqE7eo7DyYFD5mIiEnW5fAIkxGy1eRH9tq0JTZtgUEjn1W0NXee0t/GbUYwIxeptRHvtCuJmWkSCHU6ha7QuFaA6opdf43DBaewbLuP0ndLSjZ411GgqE4n1w7E6/RYTW+Eq4vWIwa9Tng9RcPxk68Oc= Received: by 10.150.91.20 with SMTP id o20mr4216235ybb.92.1202308417746; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:33:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802060633s2bb0569cwdc9feea96709fa3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:03:37 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: "Derek Ragona" In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206081827.02516d20@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206081827.02516d20@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:33:49 -0000 i dont want to go with the rename option, as if tomorrow i want to add more scripts to run at startup i will be in a mess. I will tell in detail so that it would be easy for you to understand my problem :- Intention is that the script file should be called at both startup and shutdown. In Linux after doing :- 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" While startup scriptfile is called with parameter *start* and while shutdown it is called with parameter *stop.* So i check the parameter value in the script and if it is start , i run my executables and if it is stop i gracefully exit from my executables. I want to achie same thing in FreeBSD. Thanks, Navneet On 2/6/08, Derek Ragona wrote: > > At 08:09 AM 2/6/2008, navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > Hi, > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > startup. > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > rc.conf file. > > How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? > > > You don't need any command. Depending on the version of FreeBSD, put your > script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and if you are using earlier than 6.XFreeBSD name the script > chckconfig.sh > > You can name it in the same in 6.X and 7.X and it will work. > > Be sure the script is chmod'd (usually 755) to execute. Since your script > runs without a known environment be sure to either use full pathnames for > executables or set the path in your script. > > -Derek > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for > their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:37:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8373816A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D181A13C4EA for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202913432.38987@1KMlSSCLjRNRK6ITh03y9A Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16EbBcI008321; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:37:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:36:54 -0600 To: Eugen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:37:20 -0000 At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: >Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try >your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. > >If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my >initial cry for help. > >Eugen > >### Console options >keymap="us.iso" >font8x8="NO" >font8x14="NO" >font8x16="NO" >scrnmap="NO" >keyrate="fast" >cursor="blink" >blanktime="900" >saver="warp" > >### Mouse daemon >mousechar_start="NO" >moused_enable="NO" >moused_flags="" >moused_port="/dev/sysmouse" >moused_type="auto" > >### IPv6 options >ipv6_enable="NO" > >ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > >### PF firewall ># pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load >module if required) ># pf_flags="" # >additional flags for pfctl startup ># pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules >definition file for pf ># pflog_enable="YES" # start pflogd(8) ># pflog_flags="" # additional >flags for pflogd startup ># pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd >should store the logfile > >### Miscellaneous administrative options >kern_securelevel="-1" # range: -1..3 ; >`-1' is the most insecure >kern_securelevel_enable="NO" # kernel security level >(see init(8)), >local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" >clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. >devfs_system_ruleset="devfsrules_local" # The name of a ruleset to apply >to /dev >dmesg_enable="YES" # Save dmesg(8) to >/var/run/dmesg.boot >update_motd="YES" # update version >info in /etc/motd (or NO) >virecover_enable="NO" # Perform >housekeeping for the vi(1) editor > >usbd_enable="YES" >usbd_enable="YES" # Run the usbd daemon. >usbd_flags="" # Flags to >usbd (if enabled). > >lpd_enable="YES" Eugen, I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions (file sharing, DNS, etc.) Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: ============================================================== #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts hostname="myhostname.mydomainname.com" #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0" ============================================================== These are all you need to get it working. If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router you need to set that up in your router. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:41:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EA016A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FFB13C4F2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202913679.10256@kdgePJLUea4Vzzm6gvV6nA Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16EfGTK008402; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:41:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206083731.0250e418@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:40:59 -0600 To: "Rudi Kramer - MWEB" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A05AD5555@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> References: <47A5CADA.7010401@wilderness.homeip.net> <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A05AD5555@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Host interface resetting - Asus nx 1101 (stge) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:41:26 -0000 At 12:11 AM 2/6/2008, Rudi Kramer - MWEB wrote: >Hello, > >I recently purchased a Asus NX 1101 nic for a intel pc I have at home. >The motherboard is a intel gigabyte GA-8I945GMF and I'm running FreeBSD >6.3 RELEASE. > >The card is correctly using the stge driver but whenever I try and bring >the interface up I get the following message " host interface error >resetting" repeated over and over again and I have to reboot the server. > >I tested the card on an AMD gigabyte board (K8M800-8237), also running >FreeBSD 6.3 and the card runs perfectly. > >I checked dmesg and also /var/logl/message and I couldn't find anything >useful, any ideas? > >Rudi Rudi, Since you are having this problem on one motherboard but not the other, I would try other slots on the problematic motherboard. Usually some PCI slots have different capabilities (besides 32 bit vs 64 bit) as some will allow busmastering as one example. Check the card specs against your motherboard specs for the slots. Also some PCI cards may need irq assignment, some motherboards let you set these, while others make these assignment automatically through some implementation of plug-and-play. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:45:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38F016A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FCB13C514 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1202913893.12091@2nwpA2U1ghXpBh55xJW/Ig Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16Einlu008534; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:44:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206084151.02528b70@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:44:32 -0600 To: "navneet Upadhyay" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060633s2bb0569cwdc9feea96709fa3c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206081827.02516d20@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1563a4fd0802060633s2bb0569cwdc9feea96709fa3c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:45:07 -0000 At 08:33 AM 2/6/2008, navneet Upadhyay wrote: >i dont want to go with the rename option, as if tomorrow i want to add >more scripts to run at startup i will be in a mess. > >I will tell in detail so that it would be easy for you to understand my >problem :- > >Intention is that the script file should be called at both startup and >shutdown. > >In Linux after doing :- >1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. >2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > >While startup scriptfile is called with parameter start and while shutdown >it is called with parameter stop. > >So i check the parameter value in the script and if it is start , i run my >executables and if it is stop i gracefully exit from my executables. > > >I want to achie same thing in FreeBSD. > >Thanks, >Navneet All scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are sent the "start" parameter at bootup and the "stop" parameter at shutdown. So this is exactly what you are looking for. If your script isn't running correctly check the paths to the executables, and also put some echo statements in the script to follow the logic to debug it. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:54:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D13316A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F17A13C47E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JMlf1-0000Bz-7Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:03 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:03 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:55:12 +0100 Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig63DBAC55DFE4EB3F51C4E550" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig63DBAC55DFE4EB3F51C4E550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system= > startup. >=20 > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - >=20 > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" >=20 >=20 > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD >=20 > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > rc.conf file. I've seen some complicated examples on this thread, and want to suggest a simple one: 1. create a regular shell script in /etc/rc.d, name it whatever you like (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") 2. chmod a+x the script 3. you're done. This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for which version do you need it). A more semantically pure example (and the one that's preferred if your script starts an external application - a web server or something like that) is to put the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. In any case, the syntax and everything else is the same. An advanced feature is to regulate when the script will be executed (in Linux, this is accomplished by all those ugly symlinks like S86Something). Here it is done by adding special comments to the beginning of the file in the format # AFTER: FILESYSTEMS or # BEFORE: LOGIN See rcorder(8) man page for details. (most of the advices given here will also work on NetBSD). --------------enig63DBAC55DFE4EB3F51C4E550 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHqcpQldnAQVacBcgRAtNZAJ0YQtQE11/kZ2EqdKRiYY6TCwy7XACgzqCG Bc8QHiU/0h1FLrokUT2Ha38= =/AgQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig63DBAC55DFE4EB3F51C4E550-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 14:59:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE6816A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD49F13C4D1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JMlk7-0000Ug-BG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:19 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:19 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:19 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:00:27 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig856E8668E7AC9C24B720E55D" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig856E8668E7AC9C24B720E55D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ivan Voras wrote: > An advanced feature ... I'd like to add some more info on the subject: the rc.d script mechanism is extremely powerful and you can do many things with it, if you need them. Scripts are passed arguments like "start" and "stop" which you might want to handle (though "stop" is handled specially and by default, BSD's don't call "stop" unless specifically asked for; they send SIGTERM), they can automatically handle PID files so daemons are started and stopped "gracefully" without any special support from the applications or the script writer. It's an extraordinarily good subsystem= =2E --------------enig856E8668E7AC9C24B720E55D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHqcuLldnAQVacBcgRAiI/AKD3kd1oQviaP6WQPxspp0A9OlvFlQCdEEeY qkmpG77/PtpiKRXIKpYf618= =TlvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig856E8668E7AC9C24B720E55D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:10:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FA616A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from flpi185.prodigy.net (flpi185.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.20.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7388113C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) X-ORBL: [66.136.206.1] Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by flpi185.prodigy.net (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16EvtnU024222 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:57:55 -0800 Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16EvgwN011927 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:57:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16Evg0d071002 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:57:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m16EvgvO071001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:57:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:57:42 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: questions list Message-ID: <20080206145742.GC70608@rancor.immure.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-immure-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: idlc loops building openoffice.org-2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:31 -0000 Has anyone else seen this? I am trying to build editors/openoffice.org-2 on a 6.3-release system and keep getting a loop in idlc when compiling seemingly random idl files. Here's an example: rm -f ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/ucrdoc/cssdrawing.db regmerge ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/ucrdoc/cssdrawing.db UCR @/tmp/mkGyYxjk ------------- rm -f ../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/misc/cssdrawing.idls cat /tmp/mkI8sAOV >>../../../../unxfbsdi.pro/misc/cssdrawing.idls /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-2/work/OOG680_m9/offapi/com/sun/star/drawing/framework idlc @/tmp/mkl1oXN1 idlc: compile 'AnchorBindingMode.idl' ... idlc: compile 'BasicPaneFactory.idl' ... idlc: compile 'BasicToolBarFactory.idl' ... idlc: compile 'BasicViewFactory.idl' ... idlc: compile 'ConfigurationChangeEvent.idl' ... idlc: compile 'ConfigurationController.idl' ... idlc: compile 'ModuleController.idl' ... idlc: compile 'PaneController.idl' ... idlc: compile 'ResourceActivationMode.idl' ... idlc: compile 'ResourceId.idl' ... idlc: compile 'TabBarButton.idl' ... At this point, idlc was looping (using all available CPU time) and sat there for as long as I was willing to let it. I have tried this several times now and each time it eventually winds up looping the same, but so far, always on a different idl file. Here's the uname output for my system: FreeBSD sarlacc.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 Anyone have an idea as to what is wrong/going on here? Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox A lack of planning on your part does bob@immure.com not constitute an emergency on my part. Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:10:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B7316A46E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F513C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 1570266/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.32 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJxcqUc+8aIg/2dsb2JhbACuAA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.32]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 15:10:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5016BE00008E; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:55 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9CDFB.60103@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:51 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> <47A9C052.60609@highperformance.net> In-Reply-To: <47A9C052.60609@highperformance.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:58 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and >> 1.2. >> *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ? >> >> Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ? I would prefer a >> way by >> which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling. > > > Uninstall reinstall takes all of five seconds. It's quite easy. Any > of the ports management software has to do some variety of this > anyway. The only difference is they do it with one command. Actually, there is one other key difference. portupgrade[1] will make a *backup* of the package it is about to uninstall, and will recover that backup if the subsequent install of the new package fails. You can do that by hand with the pkg_ tools but I know I prefer it to just happen. You could add that to your script, but why re-invent the wheel? portupgrade[1] also keeps copies of any libraries it uninstalls during an upgrade, which ought not to be necessary. But if something was silently relying on one, you won't break it. > The usefulness of the port management apps (portmaster,portupgrade) is > when you want to upgrade multiple ports and large amounts of > dependencies all at once. They are more trouble than they are worth > for a single package. That is, unless you are already using them. The other argument would be that there's no better time to get familiar with a tool than when you can use it to do something easy. --Alex [1] portmaster may do this too. I don't know as regrettably I haven't found time to try it yet. The new version is something I would like to try, and while I can't recommend it from personal experience, I would suggest trying it nonetheless. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:34:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1569916A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E05613C46A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16FVAbZ018939; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:31:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16FVAcR018938; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:31:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:31:10 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Francois-Xavier Charpentier de Beauville Message-ID: <20080206153110.GA18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47A7D343.1090603@charpentier-de-beauville.com> <20080205091416.D1594@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A94951.70605@charpentier-de-beauville.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A94951.70605@charpentier-de-beauville.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Preserving file permissions with dump and restore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:34:35 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:44:49AM -0500, Francois-Xavier Charpentier de Beauville wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I have a box with three hard drives: > >>/dev/da0 - dedicated to the OS > >>/dev/ad4s1e - data drive - mounted as /store > >>/dev/ad5s1e - hold a backup of /dev/ad4 - mounted as /backup > >> > >>I used 'dump' to backup everything from /store to /backup with the > >>following command: > >>dump -0aun -f /backup/fullbackup /store > >> > >>As expected, the result is a dump file called 'fullbackup' > >> > >>Then I tested a restore, by restoring the fullbackup file from > >>/backup to /store. I did the following: > >>1) made /store pristine: newfs -U /dev/ad4s1e > >>2) mounted /dev/ad4s1e on /store > >>3) cd into /store > >>4) ran the command: restore -r -uv -f /backup/fullbackup > >>5) remove 'restoresymtable' from /store > >> > >>Thanks in advance for your help > > > >you did restore as root? (i think so but just for sure) > > > >it is something wrong with restore then, i used it many times and it > >restore everything. > > > > > >anyway - rsync is good tool to make exact copy of directory tree > > > Actually yes, I did restore as root. All ownership info and permissions > are reset during restore, and none of the original permissions are > back. This kind of weird since the OS drive hasn't changed. So, there > are the same users setup on the system. Any thoughts? Well, dump/restore should result in permissions and flags and everything being as before the dump. I have done the equivalent many many times and not seen any loss of permissions or flags or change of ownership. When the restore finished, did it ask you about setting owner/permissions on . ? If so, answer no. That is the only thing I can think of. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551EE16A41B; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F4113C458; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16FYi8L004033; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:34:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16FYiIv004030; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:34:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:34:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:35:46 -0000 > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > 2. chmod a+x the script > 3. you're done. > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for > which version do you need it). you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands at least From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:39:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F91416A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCDA13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so606290uge.37 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:39:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IPyBymFAEBhmmhhseHimcwNE/21Evuf8GsmZMnOOCsE=; b=l9neYRy64EJluXTHJPo2RQ5mAVFzn65Gh7tcWQaVlWssk4yOi3Zh0ap8XEwzsFQZt+igiHmd1ijQrR8TaLZHVO4IXdLXeVdBrp9GtNZks1JW6dfr+hKyna+KDla1BeGFvVAqORTbnzlp0fm/E3CwBaSToB08CaqBs7/KcjAHaEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mwGTfdTcivUZHUhDrMDe4rmN8wwix+Sq0vvUTDvj4Iy6b56tEFdGPiE6g35oy8WigmYSSSF/hPoxBUkH7bxKoCXMtazTW1Px+I/b2ox+hEdjUp6Dox0Z1msEbbe+nq8mQ9hKGyafo/FO5bLnWJi25AQtaAMUV96h0iyDeqlQe5o= Received: by 10.78.167.12 with SMTP id p12mr17931654hue.20.1202312380884; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060739l4cd1b290wc720339737079bb1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:39:40 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:39:43 -0000 Hello, 2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar : > > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > > 2. chmod a+x the script > > 3. you're done. > > > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for > > which version do you need it). > > you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands at > least I just symlinked my sh script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and it works quite well without even touching rc.conf. HTH Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:40:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CAA16A46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D686613C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16FbBJX018987; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:37:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16FbBWg018986; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:37:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:37:11 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20080206153711.GB18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47A9C2A2.1070100@gahr.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47A9C2A2.1070100@gahr.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: navneet Upadhyay , User Questions Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:40:34 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 03:22:26PM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > Hi, > > Hello, > > > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > > startup. > > > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > > > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > > > > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > > > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > > rc.conf file. > > > > How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? > > you just edit rc.conf and you add a line in the form > > _enable="YES" > > Then you place the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d > > at the bottom of the rc(8) man page there are a few examples on how to > build such a script. One more thing that may seem obvious, but is easy to forget. The script must have execute permission set on the file. ////jerry > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:46:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5064A16A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E0613C46A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16FhIsP019038; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:43:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16FhHNJ019034; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:43:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:43:17 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:46:40 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 03:29:14PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > >startup. > > > >I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > > >1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > >2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > > > >I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > > >chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > >rc.conf file. > > you have to > > 1) make your own service started in /etc/rc.d (look at others for example) > > 2) simply add what's needed to rc.local No, don't add anything to rc.local. Putting the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and making it executable is all you want to do. In the script it should check for being passed a 'start' or a 'stop'. If you want to pass it other information or conditions, you may also want to make it to check for an environment variable which you can set in rc.conf and have your script read up (source) rc.conf. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:49:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C170416A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C40D13C4D1 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3597084waf.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:49:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=kaJjqOSBoY4wvROSRJf9EdK3VFb4SG9lm1yxeBJILDM=; b=wZoOJ9FJrgDUQu3jGZc4yb7O51DoqHWm0uUZBMNR3YNTG0M/jRukGpmo5d0ajQhEz6Cv4vMiQ1xvsKsa+7KvYC4+J/xIQ2owT7UMlRGUFggwTJyYV/Y2Jr0VFkMSzRdktnjev/oB3EllSfAIgXSPC8XJ+xXL3giV9A8htyb9RCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QAY6jbY10WtFFmaDKXZQDB9uXxPHJBc/jpnLKFRl8u7Fb/nA5XA3vJkBizkRqMNzFvy7CqE8slkYs2aH13Ee6rzcV/6LHQRPPqh64HQ8g732G2GN6022irz4/vc5ZWIdpJ4P9yiM55jNdc7W1102B1TSBWgSVBl2PjWzkiIfBUk= Received: by 10.114.198.1 with SMTP id v1mr7935922waf.89.1202312986830; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.48.15 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:49:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:49:46 -0500 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:49:47 -0000 In my efforts to make some libraries, I looked up the documentation, and found bsd.lib.mk does in fact make my life a lot easier. However, I have a few questions. 1) Initially, this library will actually build several sublibraries. To keep my code neat, each library has it's own source directory. However, I also want to make cross linking easier and less prone to "oops, I forgot to add the library's directory to the lib path list" issues, so under the source directory I made an 'objs' directory, where I was manually putting the output. Is there a way to simply have the final output files sent to that directory? 2) How likely is it to cause compatibility erros if I simply go through the bsd.lib.mk file, and grab out all of the parts I need, and manually assemble them into my makefile? i.e. does this makefile vary much from release-to-release/hardware-to-hardware? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:51:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0E916A468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB4D13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so609920uge.37 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:51:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=4+bRGsaG8Bru/xpyJoftp2jayoVWp63kLzGjd9Nks40=; b=MywImMebDfpriqmxURc5/LO/r7gD1kKTeHcNmJVPL0guUoGiWJ5BsrBqaGgxOrnM5CMS7T86WHMQE7seSahM2ku91OvYrPqRfbwLQrb/01/ORTsLMH3yGWGqo2HuOXopSLibCq8IOjEHDgY9AVToFEnyrfRlRq+1qUqcsmUcGos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JHwuljX7gLIe9CcaltSJVceqBmoh0xCLOBVuGxhWoJnynn51GPXfTlOPyTsayyGksrc7A/mbAUa87kCxGzieG9Jr8u2gEwaE8VqPBqyl61W6ghIOSPm6Ds6LVjIEaerX6ebiQZoJ6GPML3s81RiKRllqSh4S/7aTK8UTEi8OAcM= Received: by 10.78.21.7 with SMTP id 7mr17912260huu.5.1202313080729; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:51:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:51:20 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:51:24 -0000 Hello, I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use a non-root user for to run that script. $ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> /usr/home/api/sender/start.sh So I tried: $ sudo chown api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh No error but no change either. The original start.sh file has user api but the symlink is owned by root. How can I make sure that the file is indeed run as user api? Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:52:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BAA16A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3B713C4CE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16FmxCa019130; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:48:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16FmxRn019129; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:48:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:48:58 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-ID: <20080206154858.GD18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <94136a2c0802060739l4cd1b290wc720339737079bb1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060739l4cd1b290wc720339737079bb1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:52:21 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:39:40PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > 2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar : > > > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > > > 2. chmod a+x the script > > > 3. you're done. > > > > > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for > > > which version do you need it). > > > > you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands at > > least > > I just symlinked my sh script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and it works > quite well without even touching rc.conf. If your script dosn't have need of any information or configuration from outside, then you don't need to put anything in /etc/rc.conf. But, it is available if you need it. As for start and stop, the system will pass start on a bootup and stop on a shutdown. It is appropriate to check at least for start in your script and only startup if it is set so you don't try to start it at shutdown. But, if there is something you would like to do at shutdown, then also make a section of the script for shutdown and then check for 'stop' and run that part when it is present and 'start' is not present. If both are set, then it is a bad error somewhere. ////jerry > > HTH > > Zbigniew Szalbot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 15:54:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E207816A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DD213C448 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so823100nfb.33 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GkHVDJO3l6trse31NvnoSu7hKhagmnc6NfJJuApCHY4=; b=mdsCANkj9KYDWgBCzU50hmsutvc54CPaNe5UxUJO8duQ1YUW7vkaOaEd8U91hirWqHc0t5PN3auQJS4aBdgbhKXPMKd67pSGeEsIueE+u9MkiF79Ra8RCGMQXjMwnqLUo1XokWWckUi+/rlQLriC0jWgiXqf+f3CnpP+qoqMjOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sbyh2Nz/FvUIIqjkxlkB2bUT101sy0ZdtfRE9z2E/JbvO9aNPHZLjQsVaDEYpP1+yb6MGRnz91zgDibsicibLaeffAZCMV3zdN50HBJVRJ1NVc2iOllaBQcjinRGcC6h5KSVdCUY0KqmdaiIGuMpEKfWY4l09j5P+0oc7iHAkNY= Received: by 10.78.161.4 with SMTP id j4mr10835742hue.10.1202313287452; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060754k601dcd87x464e32a5453c9c4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:54:47 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080206154858.GD18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <94136a2c0802060739l4cd1b290wc720339737079bb1@mail.gmail.com> <20080206154858.GD18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:54:50 -0000 Hello, 2008/2/6, Jerry McAllister : > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:39:40PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > 2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar : > > > > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > > > > 2. chmod a+x the script > > > > 3. you're done. > > > > > > > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for > > > > which version do you need it). > > > > > > you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands at > > > least > > > > I just symlinked my sh script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and it works > > quite well without even touching rc.conf. > > If your script dosn't have need of any information or configuration > from outside, then you don't need to put anything in /etc/rc.conf. > But, it is available if you need it. > > As for start and stop, the system will pass start on a bootup and > stop on a shutdown. It is appropriate to check at least for start > in your script and only startup if it is set so you don't try to start > it at shutdown. But, if there is something you would like to do > at shutdown, then also make a section of the script for shutdown and > then check for 'stop' and run that part when it is present and 'start' > is not present. If both are set, then it is a bad error somewhere. Thank you Jerry - I find your posts very informative and valuable! As for my api, all other configs are defined in a separate properties file (including when and how it should die/stop), so it is enough for me. Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:09:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F0516A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C8E13C46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A218F28449; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:09:47 -0500 (EST) To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:09:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> (Zbigniew Szalbot's message of "Wed\, 6 Feb 2008 16\:51\:20 +0100") Message-ID: <44d4rat6b8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:09:49 -0000 "Zbigniew Szalbot" writes: > I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink > I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use > a non-root user for to run that script. > > $ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> > /usr/home/api/sender/start.sh > > So I tried: > $ sudo chown api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh > > No error but no change either. The original start.sh file has user api > but the symlink is owned by root. > > How can I make sure that the file is indeed run as user api? I prefer to use cron(8) for this (it has an @reboot value for the crontab files), but for using startup scripts, I think the best way is to use su(1) in the script to execute particular commands. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:24:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C64816A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from kaitan.default.co.yu (kaitan.default.co.yu [87.237.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A30C13C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 23278 invoked by uid 89); 6 Feb 2008 16:57:13 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.108?) (bc@default.co.yu@213.198.226.187) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 16:57:13 +0100 From: Bogdan Culibrk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:57:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1202313434.5415.209.camel@serafim> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Some ZFS experience X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:24:32 -0000 Hi list monkeys! I've been using ZFS on freebsd since August 2007. It was running on 4x 9GB SCSI drives in raidz1 configuration powered by some old bx133 motherboard with 2x CPUs on 350MHz with 512MB of RAM. Applications running on it were couple of jails spinning low traffic mail servers and mysqls. All was running "smooth" considering the amount of fancy hardware :) However about week or so I upgraded that box by placing all 4 drives in new machine with P4 grade CPU and 1GB of ram, *but* I failed to connect all 4 drives in new enviroment with 1 scsi cable (was too short to reach 4th drive) and decided to give it a shot and see what happens with 1 hdd offline (omg i was expecting that will work). What happened: 1. Base system running on gmirror volume consisting of 4 mirrors booted up normally in degraded mode with 3 of 4 drives online. 2. /data powered by raidz1 zfs was showing 3 drives, 2 online and 1 faulted. zfs list was showing that volume is unavailable due lack of spares. I'm not sure which drive I didnt connect, was it da0, da1, da2 or da3 so i tried one more combination by cabling 3 drives in little different fashion. This time 2 of 3 drives showed as faulted. I've left it and got extra cabling the next day. Connected all 4 drives and ZFS pool continued working normally like it was in previous box. What was wrong when 3 drives were connected? Wasnt supposed to raidz1 survive lack of 1 drive? Or I did something wrong there? I didnt do 'zpool export' prior to physical migration of the drives. I'm using FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE pulled from cvsup before 2 weeks. No custom patches. conf files and dmesg follows: cat /boot/loader.conf geom_mirror_load="YES" zfs_load="YES" vfs.zfs.zil_disable="1" vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable="1" #vm.kmem_size="335708160" vm.kmem_size="512M" vm.kmem_size_max="512M" hw.ata.wc=0 FreeBSD anarki.default.co.yu 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #3: Thu Jan 31 13:27:25 CET 2008 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #3: Thu Jan 31 13:27:25 CET 2008 root@anarki.default.co.yu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ANARKI Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.06GHz (3081.50-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf64 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe41d AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 real memory = 1065287680 (1015 MB) avail memory = 1028866048 (981 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3f6f0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0xd000-0xd007 mem 0xe2000000-0xe207ffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe2080000-0xe20bffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 ahc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2 ahc0: [ITHREAD] aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs re0: port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xe1001000-0xe10010ff irq 21 at device 5.0 on pci2 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto re0: Ethernet address: 00:1d:7d:32:fc:ab re0: [FILTER] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xca7ff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ata1: [ITHREAD] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled WARNING: ZFS is considered to be an experimental feature in FreeBSD. Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3081499911 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ZFS filesystem version 6 ZFS storage pool version 6 da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da0: Command Queueing Enabled da0: 17357MB (35548320 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2212C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da1: Command Queueing Enabled da1: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) da2: Command Queueing Enabled da2: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) da3 at ahc0 bus 0 target 12 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit) da3: Command Queueing Enabled da3: 17357MB (35548320 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2212C) GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/sys1s1 launched (4/4). Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/sys1s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:42:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1E616A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7457113C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 35190902/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.31 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAGNyqUc+8aIf/2dsb2JhbACtYA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.31]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 16:42:32 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28718E00008A; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:42:32 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9E373.80300@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:42:27 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:42:35 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >Hello, > >I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink >I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use >a non-root user for to run that script. > >$ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> >/usr/home/api/sender/start.sh > >So I tried: >$ sudo chown api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh > >No error but no change either. The original start.sh file has user api >but the symlink is owned by root. > >How can I make sure that the file is indeed run as user api? > > AFAIK, the owner of a symlink is completely irrelevant. All accesses to the file are checked against the permissions of the file pointed to, not the symlink. (Same if the target of a symlink is a directory). Once upon a time I'm sure all symlinks were owned by root, but could be misremembering. When you ran your chown, it did nothing at all From man chown Symbolic links named by arguments are silently left unchanged unless -h is used. If you really care; say you want a find -user api to find that symlink then chown -h api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh should do what you want. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:49:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BDF16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334F13C478 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so629600uge.37 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:49:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MXjkyMlCMopilnLNZ4CGIgTrT5n4Jrd5TIXybsUb1D4=; b=GEfvPHUuqa7ZPoXeiNkuAptkh0Au4mwfq9MXn5ID2AnBmZ/4Ip1D85AGPjD3mbKbr2nxYOm+nLGPtfwOShyQXnvv8vCB9H3ur4mSN75VoBl+CY+iG52dT7PBlq4EsPvUH3WCnVDdYlk2thktxpeKW1GhIWLlV+y/d87nCrq9qDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h2bfmR4vIhatTTmDVkQuh+rfxg4FVaAf7DrfVRjifC8uM7Mq30FJ7Pm2S6UYZ63+qENnmub3vthXRbMalPAy55b7fRdtCru24rr5wHIm0y7EU4jIxAzmRPM0qhA2eIWzFgNGjNATAK5yL3GYzM8V/qlWcH6SviqWuPbz4bFKCpY= Received: by 10.78.122.16 with SMTP id u16mr18103646huc.21.1202316540906; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:49:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060849o1dfb3f6ek67d7d41db5d99102@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:49:00 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" In-Reply-To: <47A9E373.80300@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E373.80300@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:49:03 -0000 Hello Alex, 2008/2/6, Alex Zbyslaw : > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink > >I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use > >a non-root user for to run that script. > > > >$ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> > >/usr/home/api/sender/start.sh > > > >So I tried: > >$ sudo chown api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh > > > >No error but no change either. The original start.sh file has user api > >but the symlink is owned by root. > > > >How can I make sure that the file is indeed run as user api? > > > > > AFAIK, the owner of a symlink is completely irrelevant. All accesses to > the file are checked against the permissions of the file pointed to, not > the symlink. (Same if the target of a symlink is a directory). Once > upon a time I'm sure all symlinks were owned by root, but could be > misremembering. > > When you ran your chown, it did nothing at all > > From man chown > > Symbolic links named by arguments are silently left > unchanged unless -h is used. > > If you really care; say you want a find -user api to find that symlink then > > chown -h api /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh > > should do what you want. Thank you. I realized this was the case before I wrote previous message. The thing is the real file is owned by user api. However, when the application is started following a reboot, its logs are created by user root, whereas when I start it by hand as user api, its logs are owned by user api. So it once caused me a problem because the existing log file was owned by root and I stopped then started this particular software by hand as user api. Needless to say, it panicked about not being able to log what it was doing. I wonder that indeed a better solution may be to use cron for automatic startups, which Lowell rightly pointed out to me. I just loved the simplicity of symlinking sh scripts against /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ :) Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:49:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6C916A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DE913C4E5 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16GlnAo004459; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:47:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16GkeYW004428; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:47:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:46:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:49:54 -0000 > > No, don't add anything to rc.local. no because of? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:50:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7F616A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDAC13C45D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 35199875/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.163.7 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.163.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAI9zqUc+8aMH/2dsb2JhbACtVw X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.163.7]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 16:50:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57698E0000A6; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9E568.9040406@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:48 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:55 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink >I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use >a non-root user for to run that script. > >$ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> >/usr/home/api/sender/start.sh > There's one more potential mistake you are making here. Who the script runs as has nothing at all to do with who owns the script unless setuid or setgid bits are set. They would be set on the script itself and not the symlink, so we'd need to see ls -lL /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh to know what was set or not. Specifically, startup scripts will always run as root and it will be up to the script to do things as another user if appropriate. E.g. by using su, or sudo, or by running a program which was setuid some-other-user, or because it runs as root, simply changing to another user when appropriate (see man 2 setuid). Setuid/gid bits on shell scripts aren't considered safe, however and may even be disabled. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:51:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9157B16A474 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30AE13C447 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so630448uge.37 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:51:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Dlw2h0ITlmRql4y7+PkpWZ6ul42D1SdWz9wVNiUUl0E=; b=MLBhVTZlgZigIqb8qc9Tu49I/uxlc5GB199AjzOGr61xR9lH19WiKuOobf93v+cRfdFXkU8ohf4HwdjL5wRy3nbcBawVQ9rKGDH4l7tmDPnMBp2nnE/eLFrYIfNbwp3RKicJv6rquUBvtkQa/RdV077Dae1TE/8dwOH7UJNojKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eOEkkTSBZ8fpqY77E6EKCX/RQk24J1yyDrueMvi9uEkbxZ1HXFMXw84ujaVKodzbbwAOd3MndpxDq8ajOPHJljhS3+xsl36SQ1fCqWZDq+2j3GEaKt585XlJaDhHVaZj5NTddP0xW/FfqYId4P3wVVRdz0C1nSBFAad4AdmuHmQ= Received: by 10.78.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr18097960hud.26.1202316699399; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:51:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060851h49ecd999ucc20dbd776c3ba5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:51:39 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:51:41 -0000 2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar : > > > > No, don't add anything to rc.local. > > no because of? because usrland should be executed from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ as far as I know. ZS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:54:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AFD16A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B59713C46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16GpwUf004501; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:51:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16GpjmR004492; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:51:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:51:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bogdan Culibrk In-Reply-To: <1202313434.5415.209.camel@serafim> Message-ID: <20080206174915.O4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1202313434.5415.209.camel@serafim> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ZFS experience X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:54:25 -0000 > > What happened: > 1. Base system running on gmirror volume consisting of 4 mirrors booted > up normally in degraded mode with 3 of 4 drives online. > 2. /data powered by raidz1 zfs was showing 3 drives, 2 online and 1 > faulted. zfs list was showing that volume is unavailable due lack of > spares. you told about having raidz over 4 drives. so while it reports 2 online and 1 faulted, not 3 online and 1 faulted? > What was wrong when 3 drives were connected? Wasnt supposed to raidz1 > survive lack of 1 drive? Or I did something wrong there? yes it should work normally. in case of raid-z - with just a bit slower speed according to ZFS theory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 16:57:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC2F16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC213C448 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so837924nfb.33 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:57:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=iGNmVDAk85ve1x8sY6NHUlNfrVZJuvbWH6J3+3pBRJw=; b=MfIEyWytW3BNjeiGBe/tLJzgFwluhHvGD/d/4yC7p4k4ELrZcIWWqTwfvgHfV2lU0DK76UyPC9HTHbRhiKPmtWFKPpHtrvZaAyP4O4DycoIQUgt3BTL2fTR0+AaV7RWXMHk9NXATfI9bD4JDMNf2Ie/UZRWNZorOPugJMghMErk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OWDsCRhbI/HW9yVDIvF+f4s3RM4oLBmSl36p+HcHLpwqbCZQlkgTVfOOX1IsKXjhD/jD5EoVtEkkKN7K9aO/cdj0IayHNP205G3T+DyHoi0LcCpECuzGYhRtMt1rgFYlCHllYh0DraawFl6nMoLOcFRAsJ3AXPzBoVaMX6ZVMiQ= Received: by 10.78.167.12 with SMTP id p12mr18120453hue.20.1202317043442; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802060857k25e55a5bw4c7743cc05dae6bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:57:23 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <47A9E568.9040406@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E568.9040406@dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:57:26 -0000 2008/2/6, Alex Zbyslaw : > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > >I have looked at my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and realized that the symlink > >I put there has the root as owner. It all works but I would rather use > >a non-root user for to run that script. > > > >$ ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > >lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 40 May 9 2007 sender.sh -> > >/usr/home/api/sender/start.sh > > > There's one more potential mistake you are making here. Who the script > runs as has nothing at all to do with who owns the script unless setuid > or setgid bits are set. They would be set on the script itself and not > the symlink, so we'd need to see > > ls -lL /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh > > to know what was set or not. $ ls -lL /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh -rwxr-xr-x 1 api wheel 604 May 8 2007 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sender.sh I have never really understood the thing about setuids, gid and etc. :) I am not planning a restart so won't try it but I am pretty sure that logs are created by root unless the api is started manually. No big deal really but thanks for all the suggestions! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:09:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B7F16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B0313C4E8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 35214489/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.32 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAD54qUc+8aIg/2dsb2JhbACtYA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.32]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 17:09:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B35E000094; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:09:54 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9E9DE.2060503@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:09:50 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E373.80300@dial.pipex.com> <94136a2c0802060849o1dfb3f6ek67d7d41db5d99102@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060849o1dfb3f6ek67d7d41db5d99102@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:09:57 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >Thank you. I realized this was the case before I wrote previous >message. The thing is the real file is owned by user api. However, >when the application is started following a reboot, its logs are >created by user root, whereas when I start it by hand as user api, its >logs are owned by user api. So it once caused me a problem because the >existing log file was owned by root and I stopped then started this >particular software by hand as user api. Needless to say, it panicked >about not being able to log what it was doing. > >I wonder that indeed a better solution may be to use cron for >automatic startups, which Lowell rightly pointed out to me. I just >loved the simplicity of symlinking sh scripts against >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ :) > > I personally much prefer scripts in rc.d because it's much easier to migrate than crontabs, and if I never use a crontab I always know where to look. It looks to me like you shouldn't be starting the demon as user api - startups scripts should always be started as root. If the demon or whatever is supposed to run as api not root, then perhaps your script should say e.g. su api -c the-path-to-the-demon-or-whatever root can su to whoever without a password, and api can su to api without a password, and everyone else gets prompted. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:19:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18C216A468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CE313C459 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 35223585/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.31 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJZ6qUc+8aIf/2dsb2JhbACtXQ X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.31]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 17:19:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36EAE000098; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:19:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9EC0D.7030109@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:19:09 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E568.9040406@dial.pipex.com> <94136a2c0802060857k25e55a5bw4c7743cc05dae6bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802060857k25e55a5bw4c7743cc05dae6bd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:19:16 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >I have never really understood the thing about setuids, gid and etc. :) >I am not planning a restart so won't try it but I am pretty sure that >logs are created by root unless the api is started manually. No big >deal really but thanks for all the suggestions! > > It's very simple really. When you run a program it always runs as the user who you are right now. So if you are zbigniew a program you execute runs as you. If you have su'ed or logged in as root, it runs as root. In order to run the program, the user who you are must have the right permissions - i.e. they must have an x bit set. If the program file is owned by the same user as who you are, then you look at the first 3 permissions bits; otherwise if you are in the same group as the program file you look at the next three bits; everyone else looks at the last three bits. (Bits as in pieces, not as in 1/8th of a byte). Some programs need to run as specific users or with a specific group. E.g. shutdown must run as root. You make the file owned by root and set the setuid bit. The permissions might then look like: root wheel r-s-r-x--- shutdown The s replaces the x to show that the file is both executable by root and setuid. Both root and anyone in group wheel can now run shutdown. and the setuid bit says that *whoever* runs the program will run it as if they were root. It's very similar for groups. hth, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:22:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28C816A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254F413C459 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 35227588/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.163.7 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.163.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CANx7qUc+8aMH/2dsb2JhbACtYQ X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.163.7]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2008 17:22:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C606E000069; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:22:57 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47A9ECEC.5040107@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:22:52 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:22:59 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> No, don't add anything to rc.local. > > > no because of? The manual page. > The rc.local script contains com- > mands which are pertinent only to a specific site. Typically, the > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ mechanism is used instead of rc.local these > days but > if you want to use rc.local, it is still supported. In this case, it > should source /etc/rc.conf and contain additional custom startup > code for > your system. The best way to handle rc.local, however, is to > separate it > out into rc.d/ style scripts and place them under > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It's there for backwards compatibility and you'll be bit when it goes away. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:29:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5A516A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3080413C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16HQ81w019670; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:26:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16HQ8HW019669; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:26:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:26:08 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080206172608.GC19532@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:29:31 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:46:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >No, don't add anything to rc.local. > > no because of? > Quote from man rc Typically, the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ mechanism is used instead of rc.local these days but if you want to use rc.local, it is still supported. In this case, it should source /etc/rc.conf and contain additional custom startup code for your system. The best way to handle rc.local, however, is to separate it out into rc.d/ style scripts and place them under /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:35:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C416A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD76A13C46E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438C565505 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:35:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:35:37 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206152833.U3736@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206154317.GC18883@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206174632.B4330@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:35:38 -0000 --On Wednesday, February 06, 2008 17:46:40 +0100 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> No, don't add anything to rc.local. > > no because of? > Because rc.local is the legacy, deprecated method of handling local scripts, per man (8) rc. "Typically, the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ mechanism is used instead of rc.local these days but f you want to use rc.local, it is still supported. " So, while it's still supported, it's no longer the standard way of handling local scripts, and it could go away in the future. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:50:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A328516A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: from web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FC5C13C43E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34960 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Feb 2008 17:23:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Ha3acHEKfMIPKRSJeUP40u4AOcklRXo88S2g6/WOyADvrWn0Wx/s4AizQgXzERCZRmMvWlJlcLIkgZ0Od6+3mpxbAja6oiCO6umOAdmqyo3G216piaRNdoGB03DCUwDMrXeIUNDRLd0gQLhP64mSZtya29PIVbEHbgwJqFJw4Gc=; X-YMail-OSG: VnKR4MIVM1n5VI6PFs_1e1swz0dT59yMxWUDMyXMRsnC8K_yXC4E4k2ur2H2U9Wn.R4Ifhdd5MiOgAyPmFoFqkXNaOKVGe5tbnqMCQoOKwYta_HNP9I- Received: from [72.187.244.205] by web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:23:28 PST Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:50:10 -0000 Dear FreeBSD Developers, I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be improved in an upcoming release. My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification facility to notify a program when swap is about to run out, when a program has made a memory request which requires more swap space than is avialable, and when swap space is run out. There should also be commands that can shrink the swap files, and see how much is being used in the swap files. This allows for the user to write customised programs that can manage and allocate new swap space as needed. The OS can come with a standard version of such a program that allows a user to specify a maximum swap file size (including infinite). I have also run into problems with making multiple space files on the same disk, in trying to address these swap exhaust problems, which caused thrashing. I believe this happened to when the swap partition and a swap file were on the same drive. Perhaps a way should be looked at to have multiple swap partititions and files on the same disk. That could also allow another way for additional swap space to be allocated, but I dont know if having the possibility of a large number of swap files is less efficient than a dynamically growing swap file. There should also be a feature to see how much of the swap file is used. I would much rather have dynamically allocated and deallocated swap space so I do not have large unused swap space eating up the disk, than having to predefine the swap size. Another idea I have is for setting the Do Not Fragment flag on a per connection option for UDP connections, and a per connection option to disable UDP checksum. The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS , and POSIX source compatability in regards to additional features supported by these systems. I still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not supported by FreeBSD that is a real headache. I ran into this with posix_memalign in some software. Although posix_memalign is more modern, If it would be trivial to add support for linux specific valloc and memalign why not do so as well, to maintain compatability with older Linux software. It is better to just make FreeBSD be as compatable and for stuff to compile out of box, as possible than to haggle over conditional ifdefs and changing lines of code in software. thank you for your reading these suggestions, it is greatly appreciated. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:52:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD18516A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1A913C43E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so2595691wxd.7 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:52:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=zIdAtA6zd8aYAYeroCiIvvK2cDLYhH14MXWQi0Pitc0=; b=ud5o2KhQ490JO5ErXyqLnNfpOYnxumIcpMDBi3SnTGWGxsVqlgOGJGlpZ1dt5R+dpCwG/ZPuN7NgEa0xkN3gmPOu+4NZtYZFXQf/AGBQQn+n21mrhDY0CPkdOS3gnfTYp+/t5Vw2fC3vLH1vQ9vhiZL6hVtXbKFjH09Z4ZiRTLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tEsExNpkHaM30025rAh+1sLt8EWfkZwkO0mJcV/dZiBPCwbce4iFjDMdWNM5gKidiwYLW1+ZGUM44BdtOZitVLRUtrLdp8pdV+p58bDQCGkYoS6y8UGMKKTQXlXvWrA8BPKyCyUzRFakGJlljw1TAyIA+suTHnoNUn4n4bCW1Ck= Received: by 10.141.185.3 with SMTP id m3mr6824381rvp.236.1202320346585; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.252.21 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:52:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9bbcef730802060952o178e654hbc0412127c7e887a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:52:26 +0100 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ae4c6d0ade4edf8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:52:29 -0000 On 06/02/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > > 2. chmod a+x the script > > 3. you're done. > > > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say for > > which version do you need it). > > you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands at > least You *can*, but you don't *need* to, if in a hurry :) The script will be executed once at startup, and it can parse the "start" argument given to it, but it doesn't have to. Yes, it's somewhat dirty if you ignore start/stop arguments (and if you ignore them you can't rely on nice built-in features like "restart" internally executing stop, then start) but it works. I spent a few days playing with the rc.d mechanism and it's awesome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 18:14:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785F16A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E33E13C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16IAZ6j019912; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:10:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16IAZBW019911; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:10:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:10:35 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Message-ID: <20080206181035.GA19819@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:14:00 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:23:28AM -0800, millueradfa@yahoo.com wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Developers, > > I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be > improved in an upcoming release. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you. ////jerry > > My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap > file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification > facility to notify a program when swap is about to run > out, when a program has made a memory request which > requires more swap space than is avialable, and when > swap space is run out. There should also be commands > that can shrink the swap files, and see how much is > being used in the swap files. This allows for the user > to write customised programs that can manage and > allocate new swap space as needed. The OS can come > with a standard version of such a program that allows > a user to specify a maximum swap file size (including > infinite). > > I have also run into problems with making multiple > space files on the same disk, in trying to address > these swap exhaust problems, which caused thrashing. I > believe this happened to when the swap partition and a > swap file were on the same drive. Perhaps a way should > be looked at to have multiple swap partititions and > files on the same disk. That could also allow another > way for additional swap space to be allocated, but I > dont know if having the possibility of a large number > of swap files is less efficient than a dynamically > growing swap file. There should also be a feature to > see how much of the swap file is used. > > I would much rather have dynamically allocated and > deallocated swap space so I do not have large unused > swap space eating up the disk, than having to > predefine the swap size. > > Another idea I have is for setting the Do Not Fragment > flag on a per connection option for UDP connections, > and a per connection option to disable UDP checksum. > > The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS > , and POSIX source compatability in regards to > additional features supported by these systems. I > still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not > supported by FreeBSD that is a real headache. I ran > into this with posix_memalign in some software. > Although posix_memalign is more modern, If it would be > trivial to add support for linux specific valloc and > memalign why not do so as well, to maintain > compatability with older Linux software. It is better > to just make FreeBSD be as compatable and for stuff to > compile out of box, as possible than to haggle over > conditional ifdefs and changing lines of code in > software. > > thank you for your reading these suggestions, it is > greatly appreciated. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 18:50:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC8B16A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE713C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507D3405D1A; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:25:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:25:28 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:50:37 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > startup. > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > rc.conf file. > > How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? There have been a lot of suggestions here and the thread contains all the valid information, but some people have given you deprecated advice. So I'll try to clarify what can be done and how it's meant to be done. 1. Your own scripts belong int /usr/local/etc/rc.d, if you update your system it will suggest to delete all custom scripts from /etc/rc.d, because it's only for scripts from the base system. Remember that path will not be set when your script is called at startup. The usual approach is to only use fully qualified filenames. 2. All executable scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are executed at startup and given the parameter start. Upon shutdown the parameter stop is given. The name of the script does not matter. 3. To this point you have all the functionality you asked for and there is no need for you to look further. However you are at liberty to instead build a compliant rc.d script, which brings you the advantages of controlling the execute order by defining dependencies and being able to activate/deactivate scripts and additional parameters in the file /etc/rc.conf. If you wish to exploit these advanced features it's a good way to look at existing scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and read the rc(8) manual page. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 18:56:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F277C16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A946F13C4DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CF223E4B9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:56:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:56:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206185621.08bbe275@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730802060952o178e654hbc0412127c7e887a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206163423.E4029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <9bbcef730802060952o178e654hbc0412127c7e887a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:56:33 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:52:26 +0100 "Ivan Voras" wrote: > On 06/02/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > (for example: "/etc/rc.d/myscript") > > > 2. chmod a+x the script > > > 3. you're done. > > > > > > This will work for the recent versions of FreeBSD (you didn't say > > > for which version do you need it). > > > > you need to make that script react for "start" and "stop" commands > > at least > > You *can*, but you don't *need* to, if in a hurry :) The script will > be executed once at startup, and it can parse the "start" argument > given to it, but it doesn't have to. In a proper RCNG script you don't parse stop/start, you override the stop/start functions. Parsing $1 directly is how the old-style scripts use to work, but the base system and most ports now use the RCNG framework. > Yes, it's somewhat dirty if you > ignore start/stop arguments (and if you ignore them you can't rely on > nice built-in features like "restart" internally executing stop, then > start) but it works. It depends, if the script is just starting a daemon then it can simply use the default start/stop handlers, and stop/start/restart works without any explicit handling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:03:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED6016A46E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5077713C461 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6198B16469E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26123E4CB for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:46:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:46:04 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206184604.62b6ac6d@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:03:42 -0000 On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:55:12 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > I've seen some complicated examples on this thread, and want to > suggest a simple one: > > 1. create a regular shell script in /etc/rc.d, n >.. > A more semantically pure example (and the one that's preferred if your > script starts an external application - a web server or something like > that) is to put the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. In any case, the > syntax and everything else is the same. This is a bit muddled. /etc/rc.d is for system RCNG scripts. /usr/local/etc/rc.d is for local RCNG scripts and legacy scripts that simply respond to stop/start in $1. Legacy scripts end in .sh and are called from /etc/rc.d/localpkg in dictionary order. Since the OP appears to have such a script it should be given a ".sh" extension and placed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, not in /etc/rc.d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:24:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D178916A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from smtp6.versatel.nl (smtp6.versatel.nl [62.58.50.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7E613C4E3 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 11594 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2008 19:25:08 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (HELO Rena.FStaals.net) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp6.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 6 Feb 2008 19:25:08 -0000 Message-ID: <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:22:16 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071224) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:24:09 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Every 2 weeks or so I rebuild my sources on my laptop ( Dell Latitude > D630 ). Last wednesday I wanted to update my system again since it was > allready a couple of weeks ago I rebuilded my sources. There were no > abnormalities during the build/install. But when I restarted my system > the system performance was absolutely *horrible*. When I try typing > anything in a terminal window the lag is about 20 seconds before the > command even shows up. Switching ttys takes at least as long. When > logging in remotely the performance is better; giving a random command > through the ssh session sometimes even allows a command run on a > local-console to run/finish ( or at least thats what the screen shows ). > > Even trying to shutdown the system using shutdown -p now doesn't have > any effect: I get the message "System is going down NOW" but nothing > realy happens, I just get my prompt back and I can continue entering > commands. When I push the power-off button the system actually starts > shutting down but it stops at "Writing entropy file ." leaving my > only choise to power off the system the hard way. When booting the > system to single-user mode however it reacts normally and also > shutting down works as it should > > Last 2 days I tried redownloading the sources from a different mirror > ( cvsup2.freebsd.org instead of cvsup.nl.freebsd.org ) to rule out > outdated/corrupted sources. But I still get the same behaviour. > Gladly I still had my previous sources so I managed to restore my > system in a working state. Those sources are from about 3 weeks ago. > Does anyone know what could have caused this behaviour and how to fix > it ? Below is some system information, however I'm not sure what I > should provide to help out, if I should test something I'll gladly do. > > Working system (sources from about 3 weeks ago, rebuilded today ) : > > frank@Rena# uname -a > FreeBSD Rena.FStaals.net 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri > Feb 1 20:23:11 CET 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 > > dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_old.txt > > With today's ( 1 frebruary 2008 ) sources : > > frank@Rena# cat /root/uname > FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Feb 1 18:32:59 > CET 2008 frank@Rena.FStaals.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 > > dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_2008_01_02.txt > > Kernel config used for both the builds : > > http://fstaals.net/junk/RENAKERNEL.txt > Updated my sources again today. This time even build with a GENERIC kernel but still the same result. Is there nobody who can help me with this ? -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:42:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B0216A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F3A13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m16JdG7Q020304; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:39:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m16JdGvq020303; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:39:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:39:16 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20080206193916.GA20244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:42:39 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:22:16PM +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > Frank Staals wrote: > >Every 2 weeks or so I rebuild my sources on my laptop ( Dell Latitude > >D630 ). Last wednesday I wanted to update my system again since it was > >allready a couple of weeks ago I rebuilded my sources. There were no > >abnormalities during the build/install. But when I restarted my system > >the system performance was absolutely *horrible*. When I try typing > >anything in a terminal window the lag is about 20 seconds before the > >command even shows up. Switching ttys takes at least as long. When > >logging in remotely the performance is better; giving a random command > >through the ssh session sometimes even allows a command run on a > >local-console to run/finish ( or at least thats what the screen shows ). > > > >Even trying to shutdown the system using shutdown -p now doesn't have > >any effect: I get the message "System is going down NOW" but nothing > >realy happens, I just get my prompt back and I can continue entering > >commands. When I push the power-off button the system actually starts > >shutting down but it stops at "Writing entropy file ." leaving my > >only choise to power off the system the hard way. When booting the > >system to single-user mode however it reacts normally and also > >shutting down works as it should > > > >Last 2 days I tried redownloading the sources from a different mirror > >( cvsup2.freebsd.org instead of cvsup.nl.freebsd.org ) to rule out > >outdated/corrupted sources. But I still get the same behaviour. > >Gladly I still had my previous sources so I managed to restore my > >system in a working state. Those sources are from about 3 weeks ago. > >Does anyone know what could have caused this behaviour and how to fix > >it ? Below is some system information, however I'm not sure what I > >should provide to help out, if I should test something I'll gladly do. Sounds like the system is spending a lot of time waiting for some resource - I don't know which one[s]. Have you perused the system logs? Can you be running out of memory or swap space? Is the system built with debugging turned on? I'm not sure what else to suggest. ////jerry > > > >Working system (sources from about 3 weeks ago, rebuilded today ) : > > > >frank@Rena# uname -a > >FreeBSD Rena.FStaals.net 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri > >Feb 1 20:23:11 CET 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 > > > >dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_old.txt > > > >With today's ( 1 frebruary 2008 ) sources : > > > >frank@Rena# cat /root/uname > >FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Feb 1 18:32:59 > >CET 2008 frank@Rena.FStaals.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 > > > >dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_2008_01_02.txt > > > >Kernel config used for both the builds : > > > >http://fstaals.net/junk/RENAKERNEL.txt > > > Updated my sources again today. This time even build with a GENERIC > kernel but still the same result. Is there nobody who can help me with > this ? > > -- > -Frank Staals > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:42:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6181916A538 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43FC13C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) id m16JgmwP069622; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:42:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:42:48 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Message-ID: <20080206194248.GE17472@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:42:50 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 06), millueradfa@yahoo.com said: > The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS , and POSIX > source compatability in regards to additional features supported by > these systems. I still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not > supported by FreeBSD that is a real headache. I ran into this with > posix_memalign in some software. posix_memalign is in 7.0, actually. If there are any posix functions still missing, you can send a mail to the freebsd-standards@freebsd.org list, or file a PR with the category set to "standards". Patches welcome, too :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:52:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE8716A469 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org (mho-01-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B1F13C4DB for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-98-204-176-196.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([98.204.176.196] helo=schnarff.com) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JMpwq-000KP5-Ji for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:28:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 25713 invoked by uid 67); 6 Feb 2008 19:28:43 -0000 Received: from sf-nat.sourcefire.com (sf-nat.sourcefire.com [64.214.53.2]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:28:43 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 98.204.176.196 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/rliA0lP/BOucuDLRRDmbW0w5HkF2Z6Lk= Message-ID: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:28:43 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:52:00 -0000 After nearly running out of space on my /var partition recently, I went in to clean things up and ensure that it didn't happen again. Using the "du" command to look for offending directories and files, I wiped out a bunch of old Apache and Qmail logs...and then found that I was still using 90% of the partition. So I cd'd over to /var, and got this rather surprising set of results: [alex@tms /var]$ sudo du -sh 395M . [alex@tms /var]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a 484M 126M 320M 28% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad4s1f 269G 40G 207G 16% /data /dev/ad4s1d 9.7G 7.2G 1.7G 81% /usr /dev/ad4s1e 1.9G 1.6G 173M 90% /var These wildly different results have me confused. How in the world can there be a ~1.2GB difference between the disk space in use as reported by these two tools? Which is right? More importantly, how do I fix this? Thanks, Alex Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:55:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38A816A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C2813C47E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:58864 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JMqMt-00036Z-51 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:55:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 7442 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 20:55:35 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 6 Feb 2008 20:55:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 29602 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Feb 2008 20:55:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:55:35 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: alex@schnarff.com Message-ID: <20080206195535.GA29563@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: alex@schnarff.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JMqMt-00036Z-51. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JMqMt-00036Z-51 8371458ca59a6d56fe86382789238b22 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:55:40 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 02:28:43PM -0500, alex@schnarff.com wrote: > After nearly running out of space on my /var partition recently, I went in > to clean things up and ensure that it didn't happen again. Using the "du" > command to look for offending directories and files, I wiped out a bunch of > old Apache and Qmail logs...and then found that I was still using 90% of > the partition. So I cd'd over to /var, and got this rather surprising set > of results: > > [alex@tms /var]$ sudo du -sh > 395M . > [alex@tms /var]$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 484M 126M 320M 28% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1f 269G 40G 207G 16% /data > /dev/ad4s1d 9.7G 7.2G 1.7G 81% /usr > /dev/ad4s1e 1.9G 1.6G 173M 90% /var > > These wildly different results have me confused. How in the world can there > be a ~1.2GB difference between the disk space in use as reported by these > two tools? Which is right? More importantly, how do I fix this? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#DU-VS-DF -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 19:56:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D9616A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285D813C4DB for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16JrXDK005044; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:53:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16JrSY5005041; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:53:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" In-Reply-To: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:56:25 -0000 > > My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap > file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification especially with todays drives - it's waste of time to implement this. nobody use swap FILES at all if swapping is needed unless he/she have no choice. swapping partition always will be faster. > believe this happened to when the swap partition and a > swap file were on the same drive. Perhaps a way should > be looked at to have multiple swap partititions and why you simply won't make swap partition BIGGER on the first place. swapping to files will be always much slower. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:03:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AD716A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335A13C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46033EBC3B; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:03:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:03:53 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: alex@schnarff.com Message-Id: <20080206150353.a3355ab1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> References: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:03:55 -0000 In response to alex@schnarff.com: > After nearly running out of space on my /var partition recently, I went > in to clean things up and ensure that it didn't happen again. Using the > "du" command to look for offending directories and files, I wiped out a > bunch of old Apache and Qmail logs...and then found that I was still > using 90% of the partition. So I cd'd over to /var, and got this rather > surprising set of results: > > [alex@tms /var]$ sudo du -sh > 395M . > [alex@tms /var]$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 484M 126M 320M 28% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1f 269G 40G 207G 16% /data > /dev/ad4s1d 9.7G 7.2G 1.7G 81% /usr > /dev/ad4s1e 1.9G 1.6G 173M 90% /var > > These wildly different results have me confused. How in the world can > there be a ~1.2GB difference between the disk space in use as reported > by these two tools? Because they calculate the space differently. > Which is right? They're both right ... in the manner that they calculate it. > More importantly, how do I fix this? Well, this depends on your definition of "fix". If you mean fix du and dh, there's nothing to fix, they're doing their job exactly correctly. du calculates the used space by looking at each file in each directory. df calculates it by looking at low-level ffs data. If you have one program with a file open, and delete that file with another program, you create a discrepancy between how df and du operate. Since there is no longer a directory entry, du doesn't count the space, but since the other program still has the file open, the filesystem still has the space allocated and used, so df sees the space. This is the correct behaviour. If you mean, how do I actually free up space, the answer could come in a number of ways. Generally, the easiest thing to do is just reboot the system. Whatever program has space reserved will exit and the filesystem will reclaim it. (If the space doesn't free up after a reboot, something else is wrong) If a reboot isn't an option, you can often figure out what's going on by comparing the list of open files provided by fstat with a list of files that you were deleting. You might then be able to free up the space simply by restarting a single program: possibly Apache or qmail. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:13:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B597216A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org (mho-01-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD1513C4D5 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from c-98-204-176-196.hsd1.va.comcast.net ([98.204.176.196] helo=schnarff.com) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JMqe5-000I8l-IH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:13:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 11619 invoked by uid 67); 6 Feb 2008 20:13:24 -0000 Received: from sf-nat.sourcefire.com (sf-nat.sourcefire.com [64.214.53.2]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:24 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 98.204.176.196 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18OgYGYjNYgzgAacZJZj8beVuv/1VFnVJQ= Message-ID: <20080206151324.1dc23azj4k4owsko@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:24 -0500 From: alex@schnarff.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> <20080206150353.a3355ab1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20080206150353.a3355ab1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) Subject: Re: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:13:27 -0000 >> After nearly running out of space on my /var partition recently, I went >> in to clean things up and ensure that it didn't happen again. Using the >> "du" command to look for offending directories and files, I wiped out a >> bunch of old Apache and Qmail logs...and then found that I was still >> using 90% of the partition. So I cd'd over to /var, and got this rather >> surprising set of results: >> >> [alex@tms /var]$ sudo du -sh >> 395M . >> [alex@tms /var]$ df -h >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/ad4s1a 484M 126M 320M 28% / >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev >> /dev/ad4s1f 269G 40G 207G 16% /data >> /dev/ad4s1d 9.7G 7.2G 1.7G 81% /usr >> /dev/ad4s1e 1.9G 1.6G 173M 90% /var >> >> These wildly different results have me confused. How in the world can >> there be a ~1.2GB difference between the disk space in use as reported >> by these two tools? > > Because they calculate the space differently. > >> Which is right? > > They're both right ... in the manner that they calculate it. > >> More importantly, how do I fix this? > > Well, this depends on your definition of "fix". > > If you mean fix du and dh, there's nothing to fix, they're doing their > job exactly correctly. du calculates the used space by looking at each > file in each directory. df calculates it by looking at low-level ffs > data. > > If you have one program with a file open, and delete that file with > another program, you create a discrepancy between how df and du operate. > Since there is no longer a directory entry, du doesn't count the space, > but since the other program still has the file open, the filesystem still > has the space allocated and used, so df sees the space. This is the > correct behaviour. > > If you mean, how do I actually free up space, the answer could come in > a number of ways. Generally, the easiest thing to do is just reboot the > system. Whatever program has space reserved will exit and the filesystem > will reclaim it. (If the space doesn't free up after a reboot, something > else is wrong) > > If a reboot isn't an option, you can often figure out what's going on > by comparing the list of open files provided by fstat with a list of > files that you were deleting. You might then be able to free up the > space simply by restarting a single program: possibly Apache or qmail. Thanks for such a thorough and prompt response. Given Erik's reply, it looks like I've inadverdently asked an FAQ...and reading the entry he pointed me to, it makes perfect sense what's going on, and a simple restart of Apache fixed things up. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5821A16A473 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D8C13C45A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3725863waf.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:20:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eS5XLLrXzA/kK1ppvuGtscNzXh47U5xL4hk+OzhUU7M=; b=t4xledGPFd1JOtvqGgVTPluA1E/YFqMSMrG295giJrpg0bCO+npreK1ETYCtCuuDsq+vI6rqR5X2d63dJ0N7PXCWfSh15qJnkaznR5Dc96qZNm+xeanhan49lVRKDE6kbev2dC5CVcPem4sPHHIWzXM+kAgTYcEKQhiFoV8omCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ExHsFJxxkQY0PvJyOoaM8kwQ55aOPK0DuHAEdd2uPPQlUH5jAF6ZcivSEvnBSkjYOyDk+5x0s9tIZoO2vovn2zd46bpS3sXdo6+LFhLFxSnS22r14HKjI3tnSOKQQ04VAAyqqYyXBLTgePnoGRWz/oOmOwKcaBw0bhVf0olQiTE= Received: by 10.114.201.1 with SMTP id y1mr376686waf.121.1202329257716; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.48.15 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:20:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20802061220t78dab43bg11b30eb3068d78df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:20:57 -0500 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:20:58 -0000 I made a patch to bsd.lib.mk if anyone is interested. It adds a "BUILDTO_DIR" variable, which sets a directory for the final .a and .so files to be built to. Is there any chance of this being integrated into the FreeBSD make system? (created by "diff -C 5 /usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk bsd.lib.mk > bsd.lib.mk_patch", on a FreeBSD 6.2 system) =====PATCH START===== *** /usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk Mon Apr 9 17:30:40 2007 --- bsd.lib.mk Wed Feb 6 15:03:58 2008 *************** *** 6,15 **** --- 6,16 ---- # Set up the variables controlling shared libraries. After this section, # SHLIB_NAME will be defined only if we are to create a shared library. # SHLIB_LINK will be defined only if we are to create a link to it. # INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE will be defined only if we are to create a PIC archive. + # BUILDTO_DIR may be defined to change the directory where the "final" objects are built to and stored .if defined(NO_PIC) .undef SHLIB_NAME .undef INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE .else .if !defined(SHLIB) && defined(LIB) *************** *** 41,50 **** --- 42,55 ---- # prefer .s to a .c, add .po, remove stuff not used in the BSD libraries # .So used for PIC object files .SUFFIXES: .SUFFIXES: .out .o .po .So .S .asm .s .c .cc .cpp .cxx .m .C .f .y .l .ln + .if defined(BUILDTO_DIR) + .PATH: $(BUILTDO_DIR) + .endif + .if !defined(PICFLAG) .if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "sparc64" PICFLAG=-fPIC .else PICFLAG=-fpic *************** *** 106,131 **** .if defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS= lib${LIB}.a lib${LIB}.a: ${OBJS} ${STATICOBJS} @${ECHO} building static ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${.TARGET} ! @${AR} cq ${.TARGET} `lorder ${OBJS} ${STATICOBJS} | tsort -q` ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${.TARGET} .endif .if !defined(INTERNALLIB) .if !defined(NO_PROFILE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS+= lib${LIB}_p.a POBJS+= ${OBJS:.o=.po} ${STATICOBJS:.o=.po} lib${LIB}_p.a: ${POBJS} @${ECHO} building profiled ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${.TARGET} ! @${AR} cq ${.TARGET} `lorder ${POBJS} | tsort -q` ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${.TARGET} .endif .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) || \ defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) SOBJS+= ${OBJS:.o=.So} --- 111,136 ---- .if defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS= lib${LIB}.a lib${LIB}.a: ${OBJS} ${STATICOBJS} @${ECHO} building static ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} 2>&1 2>> /dev/null || $(TRUE) ! @${AR} cq ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} `lorder ${OBJS} ${STATICOBJS} | tsort -q` ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} .endif .if !defined(INTERNALLIB) .if !defined(NO_PROFILE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS+= lib${LIB}_p.a POBJS+= ${OBJS:.o=.po} ${STATICOBJS:.o=.po} lib${LIB}_p.a: ${POBJS} @${ECHO} building profiled ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} 2>&1 2>> /dev/null || $(TRUE) ! @${AR} cq ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} `lorder ${POBJS} | tsort -q` ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} .endif .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) || \ defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) SOBJS+= ${OBJS:.o=.So} *************** *** 134,160 **** .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) _LIBS+= ${SHLIB_NAME} ${SHLIB_NAME}: ${SOBJS} @${ECHO} building shared library ${SHLIB_NAME} ! @rm -f ${.TARGET} ${SHLIB_LINK} .if defined(SHLIB_LINK) ! @ln -fs ${.TARGET} ${SHLIB_LINK} .endif @${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -shared -Wl,-x \ ! -o ${.TARGET} -Wl,-soname,${SONAME} \ `lorder ${SOBJS} | tsort -q` ${LDADD} .endif .if defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS+= lib${LIB}_pic.a lib${LIB}_pic.a: ${SOBJS} @${ECHO} building special pic ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${.TARGET} ! @${AR} cq ${.TARGET} ${SOBJS} ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${.TARGET} .endif .if defined(WANT_LINT) && !defined(NO_LINT) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) LINTLIB= llib-l${LIB}.ln _LIBS+= ${LINTLIB} --- 139,165 ---- .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) _LIBS+= ${SHLIB_NAME} ${SHLIB_NAME}: ${SOBJS} @${ECHO} building shared library ${SHLIB_NAME} ! @rm -f ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${SHLIB_LINK} 2>&1 2>> /dev/null || $(TRUE) .if defined(SHLIB_LINK) ! @ln -fs ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${SHLIB_LINK} .endif @${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -shared -Wl,-x \ ! -o ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} -Wl,-soname,${SONAME} \ `lorder ${SOBJS} | tsort -q` ${LDADD} .endif .if defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) _LIBS+= lib${LIB}_pic.a lib${LIB}_pic.a: ${SOBJS} @${ECHO} building special pic ${LIB} library ! @rm -f ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} 2>&1 2>> /dev/null || $(TRUE) ! @${AR} cq ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} ${SOBJS} ${ARADD} ! ${RANLIB} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${.TARGET} .endif .if defined(WANT_LINT) && !defined(NO_LINT) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) LINTLIB= llib-l${LIB}.ln _LIBS+= ${LINTLIB} *************** *** 207,226 **** realinstall: _libinstall .ORDER: beforeinstall _libinstall _libinstall: .if defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) && !defined(NO_INSTALLLIB) ${INSTALL} -C -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} lib${LIB}.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if !defined(NO_PROFILE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -C -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} lib${LIB}_p.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) ${INSTALL} ${STRIP} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${_SHLINSTALLFLAGS} \ ! ${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${SHLIBDIR} .if defined(SHLIB_LINK) .if ${SHLIBDIR} == ${LIBDIR} ln -fs ${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/${SHLIB_LINK} .else ln -fs ${_SHLIBDIRPREFIX}${SHLIBDIR}/${SHLIB_NAME} \ --- 212,231 ---- realinstall: _libinstall .ORDER: beforeinstall _libinstall _libinstall: .if defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) && !defined(NO_INSTALLLIB) ${INSTALL} -C -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/lib${LIB}.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if !defined(NO_PROFILE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -C -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/lib${LIB}_p.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if defined(SHLIB_NAME) ${INSTALL} ${STRIP} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${_SHLINSTALLFLAGS} \ ! ${BUILDTO_DIR}/${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${SHLIBDIR} .if defined(SHLIB_LINK) .if ${SHLIBDIR} == ${LIBDIR} ln -fs ${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/${SHLIB_LINK} .else ln -fs ${_SHLIBDIRPREFIX}${SHLIBDIR}/${SHLIB_NAME} \ *************** *** 232,242 **** .endif .endif .endif .if defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} lib${LIB}_pic.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if defined(WANT_LINT) && !defined(NO_LINT) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${LINTLIB} ${DESTDIR}${LINTLIBDIR} .endif --- 237,247 ---- .endif .endif .endif .if defined(INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ! ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${BUILDTO_DIR}/lib${LIB}_pic.a ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR} .endif .if defined(WANT_LINT) && !defined(NO_LINT) && defined(LIB) && !empty(LIB) ${INSTALL} -o ${LIBOWN} -g ${LIBGRP} -m ${LIBMODE} \ ${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${LINTLIB} ${DESTDIR}${LINTLIBDIR} .endif =====PATCH END===== Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:22:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10CD16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4BE13C459 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16Jqe3Z047259; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:52:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m16JqeGb047256; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:52:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080206193916.GA20244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20080206144920.G12870@fledge.watson.org> References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> <20080206193916.GA20244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:52:40 -0500 (EST) Cc: Frank Staals , FreeBSD Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:22:56 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:22:16PM +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > >> Frank Staals wrote: >>> Every 2 weeks or so I rebuild my sources on my laptop ( Dell Latitude >>> D630 ). Last wednesday I wanted to update my system again since it was >>> allready a couple of weeks ago I rebuilded my sources. There were no >>> abnormalities during the build/install. But when I restarted my system >>> the system performance was absolutely *horrible*. When I try typing >>> anything in a terminal window the lag is about 20 seconds before the >>> command even shows up. Switching ttys takes at least as long. When >>> logging in remotely the performance is better; giving a random command >>> through the ssh session sometimes even allows a command run on a >>> local-console to run/finish ( or at least thats what the screen shows ). >>> >>> Even trying to shutdown the system using shutdown -p now doesn't have >>> any effect: I get the message "System is going down NOW" but nothing >>> realy happens, I just get my prompt back and I can continue entering >>> commands. When I push the power-off button the system actually starts >>> shutting down but it stops at "Writing entropy file ." leaving my >>> only choise to power off the system the hard way. When booting the >>> system to single-user mode however it reacts normally and also >>> shutting down works as it should >>> >>> Last 2 days I tried redownloading the sources from a different mirror >>> ( cvsup2.freebsd.org instead of cvsup.nl.freebsd.org ) to rule out >>> outdated/corrupted sources. But I still get the same behaviour. >>> Gladly I still had my previous sources so I managed to restore my >>> system in a working state. Those sources are from about 3 weeks ago. >>> Does anyone know what could have caused this behaviour and how to fix >>> it ? Below is some system information, however I'm not sure what I >>> should provide to help out, if I should test something I'll gladly do. > > Sounds like the system is spending a lot of time waiting for some > resource - I don't know which one[s]. > > Have you perused the system logs? Can you be running out of memory > or swap space? Is the system built with debugging turned on? > > I'm not sure what else to suggest. if you have not already done so turn on all.log (see etc/syslog.conf) > ////jerry > > >>> >>> Working system (sources from about 3 weeks ago, rebuilded today ) : >>> >>> frank@Rena# uname -a >>> FreeBSD Rena.FStaals.net 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri >>> Feb 1 20:23:11 CET 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 >>> >>> dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_old.txt >>> >>> With today's ( 1 frebruary 2008 ) sources : >>> >>> frank@Rena# cat /root/uname >>> FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Feb 1 18:32:59 >>> CET 2008 frank@Rena.FStaals.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL i386 >>> >>> dmesg: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/dmesg_2008_01_02.txt >>> >>> Kernel config used for both the builds : >>> >>> http://fstaals.net/junk/RENAKERNEL.txt >>> >> Updated my sources again today. This time even build with a GENERIC >> kernel but still the same result. 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Kind regards, Emily Kovak emily@careerjet.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:36:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0008B16A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0361713C461 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16KZL5W005577; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:35:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16KZHjQ005574; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:35:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:35:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: alex@schnarff.com In-Reply-To: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> Message-ID: <20080206213426.I5569@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:36:34 -0000 > > These wildly different results have me confused. How in the world can there > be a ~1.2GB difference between the disk space in use as reported by these two > tools? Which is right? More importantly, how do I fix this? 1) there is 1.2GB files open but deleted 2) there are snapshots i don't know other explanation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 20:57:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49216A46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF4313C4F8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-365503.home.otenet.gr [87.202.155.148]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m16Kv0kQ031054; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:57:01 +0200 Message-ID: <47AA1F1C.3090406@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:57:00 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:57:04 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us to run > these commands as a regular user: > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp > emerald --replace > > I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each of these > commands, which will look like this: > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & > emerald --replace & > > once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts functioning > correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts compiz automatically > and you will get all the window borders and you are able to save the settings > using ccsm. > > Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these commands, compiz > will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let you save any settings, > another words if you run ccsm it won't let you select or unselect any > plugins. Compiz command might be a little different for gnome. > Gnome will also complain if you run these commands without > installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, once you install this it > will stop complainning. I will try to find out why I can't use ccsm and if I > find out I will let you know. > > > I have tested this as a startup script in Gnome: #! /bin/sh compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & emerald --replace & I have entered this in "Sessions" as a Startup Program and it works fine. I am also able to change settings with ccsm (which should also be run as the normal user, BTW) and the settings are saved. Now, I don't really know where these are saved, documentation mentions a .compizconfig folder, but I don't have it. I don't have ubuntu-looks installed. I don't have KDE installed on this machine, so can't test with this. Thanks again for your feedback. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B86616A46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2D913C45E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-365503.home.otenet.gr [87.202.155.148]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m16LBIxl027318; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:11:19 +0200 Message-ID: <47AA2276.9010702@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:11:18 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <47A7DC86.3020600@optonline.net> <47A8048B.20502@otenet.gr> <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <47AA1F1C.3090406@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <47AA1F1C.3090406@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:11:23 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us >> to run these commands as a regular user: >> >> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp >> emerald --replace >> >> I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each >> of these commands, which will look like this: >> >> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & >> emerald --replace & >> >> once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts >> functioning correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts >> compiz automatically and you will get all the window borders and you >> are able to save the settings using ccsm. >> >> Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these >> commands, compiz will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let >> you save any settings, another words if you run ccsm it won't let you >> select or unselect any plugins. Compiz command might be a little >> different for gnome. Gnome will also complain if you run these >> commands without installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, >> once you install this it will stop complainning. I will try to find >> out why I can't use ccsm and if I find out I will let you know. >> >> >> > I have tested this as a startup script in Gnome: > > #! /bin/sh > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & > emerald --replace & > > I have entered this in "Sessions" as a Startup Program and it works fine. > I am also able to change settings with ccsm (which should also be run > as the normal user, BTW) and the settings are saved. > Now, I don't really know where these are saved, documentation mentions > a .compizconfig folder, but I don't have it. > I don't have ubuntu-looks installed. > > I don't have KDE installed on this machine, so can't test with this. > Thanks again for your feedback. > Actually just found out there are three different backends for saving settings, according to their wiki: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/CCSM#head-340a755b8f870831a20b51544a116f6dc4795735 namely gconf, KConfig and flat files (look at the bottom of the page) I have compiled compiz-fusion with gconf support, the settings in gconf-editor are under apps/compiz. You may wish to check what options you used during compilation. I will update the article tomorrow to reflect all this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:19:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E450316A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com (hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com [213.75.38.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D9313C45E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:07:34 +0100 Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:07:35 +0100 Received: from Alex1.kruijff.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16L7YaO065114 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:07:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.kruijff.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m16L7XXd065113 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:07:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.kruijff.org: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:07:32 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206210732.GA1131@Alex1.kruijff.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2008 21:07:35.0206 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BC53460:01C86904] Subject: Nice for IO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:19:40 -0000 I'm looking for tool that limit the IO acces to a process similair as what nice / idprio does with the CPU but only ten for IO. Any pointers? -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. Howtos based on my personal use, including information about setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:26:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD13C16A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E43713C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3753312waf.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=9zhaoif54PTGX52X06pBFWPGHlYDE0OwucGpPdAnIBQ=; b=u77Vx6O4v3bj/jdYSoggv7X6I7fq0TMcI79lvF4ckMU3r6JYnSpMSNhC1PdfnCsqBYKT+GULrThdX/uoPjxLKfrY0fP16NwySi4aL+PfhSqsjUNrbawGdnn/vB65isPaWIbsugoFxmAggBp4KF6d9bDFcrTYqvikzrlBYcqF0mY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RHq6UIbpdaaCYWvAHnds+xPCyK2hkHUNOXmVwZT2aej0lgm5IX+6L/QVaecAtOGte4rgTSFArJNbuZNC8Qb9Pfdxd9kJDB31GxTBYhvXAG83Vf/BYPqYPAlZRoWCbPLokut5eMZhgrqg2Fk7/4AJSu5ipTSiVLtvUj/awhOqRVk= Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr4944453wac.112.1202333180656; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.144.13 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:26:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:20 -0500 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:26:21 -0000 Hello List, I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? thanks, Jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:34:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB57C16A421 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DED213C474 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7983321551AC; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 61F8228088; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:34:15 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-99be6bb000001e9b-61-47aa27d74307 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 4525E28083; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:34:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Jeremy Gransden In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:34:14 -0800 References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:34:15 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Jeremy Gransden wrote: > I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other > than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating your lack of privacy): http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en/privacy.html -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:43:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B29716A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5D13C457 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so5211195hub.8 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.124.10 with SMTP id w10mr18941403buc.33.1202334186694; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm776547gve.6.2008.02.06.13.43.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:43:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:42:43 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206164243.67122df2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_//nP/TBwQNmw.tJC8sww05x+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:43:09 -0000 --Sig_//nP/TBwQNmw.tJC8sww05x+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:20 -0500 "Jeremy Gransden" wrote: > I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other > than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? There are several glaring deficiencies with gmail. Just for starters, unless it has been changed in the past month or so, there is no way to 'forward as attachment' email. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Television -- the longest amateur night in history. Robert Carson --Sig_//nP/TBwQNmw.tJC8sww05x+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkeqKdMACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMkfvwCfVlvYdTvCoeP6VLJwwIF9r7Sw +GQAn2JNftkOa/7ZTsECkbFkPz8GbiRC =k1ag -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_//nP/TBwQNmw.tJC8sww05x+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:48:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4A616A419 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2062B13C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38D7405C67; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:48:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AA2B1D.2070904@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:48:13 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Staals References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:48:16 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Updated my sources again today. This time even build with a GENERIC > kernel but still the same result. Is there nobody who can help me with > this ? > In your place I would have a look at "vmstat -i" and "top -S". Post the results here, if you do not know what to make of them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:53:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF4216A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F11613C474 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16LqiKr069269; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:52:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16LqahE069266; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:52:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:52:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Gransden In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:53:53 -0000 > I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other > than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? > think other way. imagine you have service with 5000 mail account. would it be worth for you of extra work of writing all user data, analyzing it, storing forever? i don't think so. now imagine you provide 500000000 mail accounts. no things are different. you can get billions storing everything and closely working with government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. of course not officially, but when talking billions of $ such things, or honesty, truth etc. turns to "who cares". so stay away from ANY services that large. not just gmail, not just mail services at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:55:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFC416A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAD413C461 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16LruhF069276; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:53:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16LrqHf069273; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:53:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:53:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:55:16 -0000 >> I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other >> than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? > > > The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating your > lack of privacy): > > http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en/privacy.html > i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any THAT BIG service provider. simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:58:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF83916A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E32413C44B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S3=4afc8aa7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C2123E3E8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:58:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:58:18 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080206215818.2bf7aa0e@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <47A9E9DE.2060503@dial.pipex.com> References: <94136a2c0802060751o7952c2f8w639139271c946e98@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E373.80300@dial.pipex.com> <94136a2c0802060849o1dfb3f6ek67d7d41db5d99102@mail.gmail.com> <47A9E9DE.2060503@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:58:22 -0000 On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:09:50 +0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > I personally much prefer scripts in rc.d because it's much easier to > migrate than crontabs, and if I never use a crontab I always know > where to look. > > It looks to me like you shouldn't be starting the demon as user api - > startups scripts should always be started as root. If the demon or > whatever is supposed to run as api not root, then perhaps your script > should say e.g. > > su api -c the-path-to-the-demon-or-whatever > > root can su to whoever without a password, and api can su to api > without a password, and everyone else gets prompted. It's actually built into /etc/rc.subr, the subversion server script is a simple example of starting a daemon with a different user: $ grep -v "^#" /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve . "/etc/rc.subr" svnserve_enable=${svnserve_enable:-"NO"} svnserve_flags=${svnserve_flags:-"-d --listen-port=3690"} svnserve_data=${svnserve_data:-"/usr/local/repositories"} svnserve_user=${svnserve_user:-"svn"} svnserve_group=${svnserve_group:-"svn"} name=svnserve rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name command=/usr/local/bin/svnserve command_args="-r ${svnserve_data}" run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 21:59:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9516A468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB913C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (unknown [24.199.214.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8864B23E497; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:59:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:59:07 -0500 From: Chess Griffin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6C1668EE96E06DF772A84426" Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:59:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6C1668EE96E06DF772A84426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other >>> than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail= ? >> >> >> The privacy policy (or perhaps more accurately the policy indicating=20 >> your lack of privacy): >> >> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en/privacy.html >> >=20 > i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any=20 > THAT BIG service provider. >=20 > simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. Which is why I like to use Tuffmail.com. They are not free, but provide = excellent service and features for a mail provider. Plus, they run=20 FreeBSD. :-) --=20 Chess Griffin GPG Key: 0x0C7558C3 http://www.chessgriffin.com --------------enig6C1668EE96E06DF772A84426 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqi2uKzd9mAx1WMMRAi54AJ9EJhb+eWoaVk5898dZS/jFP42KOwCfTy6q akX0/0FcFaYGJwOi0L1tjII= =s73N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6C1668EE96E06DF772A84426-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 22:08:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC7916A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903B413C45A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1329467rnb.13 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:08:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=J+RlzbJtpNc0zaleupSTOfUcYiv+4s7rRwreAi+3nmA=; b=knGmQSi/xLqMb+Cwss2k1r5NmE99QFs4TUM8YwaqqzKLVnEf/7bUyz0coL/LYjDKMh0quHTmt69AUln4vWzr1W/XH/DzpBT4Vz4a0qRr2vWSB24EQy55XmAcOiJvZemPQBCsL6bkUR+B8MPeAo7exJdKtp9aCzB77wv3hc1kzc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MUE4LXd52opg9oiyrWoknD0IzdNaDJhzsP5+NUAuOJBBjnNDgb3uDqDu+5kmtqh94bOz+MU4TH+5pxBdY3E3I6GPsGRAIpjPFCFw9bxoUaEoRObLomUdKG0FRzs3WTc8NhKOjevhXXlOyulOUf8LlsdQcwp+tf2mGT8k9punfx4= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr5760301wfh.112.1202335731975; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:08:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:08:51 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080206164243.67122df2@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206164243.67122df2@scorpio> Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:08:54 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008 1:42 PM, Gerard wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:20 -0500 > "Jeremy Gransden" wrote: > > > I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other > > than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? > > There are several glaring deficiencies with gmail. Just for starters, > unless it has been changed in the past month or so, there is no way to > 'forward as attachment' email. I can think of several others - yet I use gmail, because it's so convenient. Some of this can be mitigated by using a POP3/IMAP client instead of the web interface. 1) can't put a graphic in-line with text 2) forwards and replies *ruin* html-formatted emails 3) message threading seem to be based on the subject line, not the message-id - this one is actually the most frustrating one for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 22:46:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55F516A41A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E49813C447 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16MihEH011665; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:44:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16Mia25011662; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:44:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:44:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chess Griffin In-Reply-To: <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> Message-ID: <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:46:17 -0000 >> >> i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any THAT >> BIG service provider. >> >> simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. > > > Which is why I like to use Tuffmail.com. They are not free, but provide > excellent service and features for a mail provider. Plus, they run FreeBSD. > :-) no idea how large they are, but definitely better than google. what they run shouldn't be important, only net effect counts. if i would have choice of 2 service providers (any service) one running FreeBSD other windows vista, but the latter giving better service, i would choose the latter... what is most strange are FreeBSD admins from that list , many of them really good, unable to just create e-mails for themselves on one of their servers, but using gmail. it's just... stupid. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 22:59:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B378916A418 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E2A13C45D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so2688083wxd.7 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jRl0rCgUhEq/IYXM0h2NcbfNAfrQHr/0sk2fIz5T3ak=; b=QyaIpJP3LXRVype5vVk0CwWFSnFgZzfHFwkarLk96FpK3VPrk+4o9tjzwrBjZJCaUU2mCxkKe3dASSNa97Z0QCU0N5pTYVkVoBjv9Eu315k3VcLsDxk4+PPdtPxtI/mExAnDWr1vSn7Xu8AL0cfwfVGKOi4H5LuvnvmRT5pLwa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OcLWbWYXiRXxYLZzbcJYmvUwVonFdh7CYZlaAf5S/6gtH0rxSZRgHgc5p04B6a9zAIAqlMvKk99M6fBAa46teLSsQzyrU+JVrf8MpuFZzrcbax3DNhihNqiT2t3KKCFvCfslFnsAzKZbS9QA4+wJRUjnF+iPMs05EjAyjkKzEd8= Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr18914326hue.35.1202338761609; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:59:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802061459v2e960515x2e39a5568a0fb21c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:59:21 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:59:24 -0000 2008/2/6, Wojciech Puchar : > >> > >> i would rather not narrow the problem to google or gmail, but to any THAT > >> BIG service provider. > >> > >> simply avoid huge ones as they are too powerful. > > > > > > Which is why I like to use Tuffmail.com. They are not free, but provide > > excellent service and features for a mail provider. Plus, they run FreeBSD. > > :-) > no idea how large they are, but definitely better than google. > > what they run shouldn't be important, only net effect counts. > > if i would have choice of 2 service providers (any service) one running > FreeBSD other windows vista, but the latter giving better service, > i would choose the latter... > > > what is most strange are FreeBSD admins from that list , many of them > really good, unable to just create e-mails for themselves on one of their > servers, but using gmail. > > it's just... stupid. Wojtek - I felt tempted to reply the same way you do but it is not worth it. Keep in mind though that your needs and preferences are not everyone else's. Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:03:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DAA16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AD913C458 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JMtIx-0001uP-GH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:03:47 +0100 Message-ID: <47AA3CC5.8060404@gahr.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:03:33 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig22CF8FC3BD2FD0082B6C03AB" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:03:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig22CF8FC3BD2FD0082B6C03AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other >> than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail?= >> >=20 > think other way. >=20 > imagine you have service with 5000 mail account. >=20 > would it be worth for you of extra work of writing all user data, > analyzing it, storing forever? i don't think so. >=20 > now imagine you provide 500000000 mail accounts. no things are differen= t. >=20 > you can get billions storing everything and closely working with > government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. >=20 > of course not officially, but when talking billions of $ such things, o= r > honesty, truth etc. turns to "who cares". >=20 >=20 > so stay away from ANY services that large. not just gmail, not just mai= l > services at all. Someone's over-paranoid in here... spy satellites, providers selling sensitive data, neighbors staring at your wife undressing while you're at work... who cares? Just my 2cents to decrease SNR even more... --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig22CF8FC3BD2FD0082B6C03AB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHqjzJwMJqmJVx944RCrRWAKCyT4GDr/MrLEKDYLA7NS9YyZ70kQCcCCrh zx2M81uFVNRojfRtuui4Kg0= =lPyq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig22CF8FC3BD2FD0082B6C03AB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:10:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C0B16A46B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3A213C46A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16NAegl030006 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:10:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47AA3E70.7000908@brianwhalen.net> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:40 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:10:42 -0000 Jeremy Gransden wrote: > Hello List, > > I was prompted by a comment in another thread about gmail; and other > than the absolutely annoying way it quotes, what is wrong with gmail? > > thanks, > Jeremy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D92A16A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41C113C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16NKrvZ031972 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:20:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:20:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:20:58 -0000 To cut down my email I unsub'd to the OOo mailing list, so I'll ask here if there is a new package of the latest or near-latest that I can set off at night and have it installed by morning. Any exact URL's would be a great help. tia, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:32:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FB116A468 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE513C47E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16NWdPt054064; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:32:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16NWaiA054061; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:32:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:32:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: <47AA3CC5.8060404@gahr.ch> Message-ID: <20080207003130.M54047@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AA3CC5.8060404@gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:32:57 -0000 >> >> so stay away from ANY services that large. not just gmail, not just mail >> services at all. > > Someone's over-paranoid in here... spy satellites, providers selling > sensitive data, neighbors staring at your wife undressing while you're > at work... who cares? no need to spy satellites today :) just because what i said. jut believe it's over paranoid. the believers keeps all these googles and others live From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:36:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC8A16A41B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF6213C467 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.1 anthesphoria.net m16NaJMJ049046 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anthesphoria.net; s=phero; t=1202340985; bh=oKF9m2i7Ql6ZswTvweIBsqf5CvELRj5QHSUCKrGpm 70=; l=1458; h=X-Bogosity:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:X-Face:X-Operating-System: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint:X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=apY042lZ5cnlz2ngQqvDDUM+ FE5lOajs5ccbfvdYFLLMcGo7hqbaqXBKnmOd1o8+4Yk0+9cviSetNIN+09BWtureO5f oaP1GqSHmnBpQEdGXO9sn++tuyDo3CTZoC6IYWdbxBAKSLAG33LnaJ+kPRmn66NtFZL MCZAiIp26+3rw= Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-200-42.eunet.yu [213.198.200.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m16NaJMJ049046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:36:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:37:18 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> References: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p9 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver: x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:36:26 -0000 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogUklQRU1EMTYwDQoNCk9u IFdlZCwgNiBGZWIgMjAwOCAxNToyMDo1MyAtMDgwMA0KR2FyeSBLbGluZSA8a2xpbmVAdGhvdWdo dC5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOg0KIA0KPiBUbyBjdXQgZG93biBteSBlbWFpbCBJIHVuc3ViJ2QgdG8gdGhl IE9PbyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QsIHNvIEknbGwgYXNrDQo+IGhlcmUgaWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBuZXcg cGFja2FnZSBvZiB0aGUgbGF0ZXN0IG9yIG5lYXItbGF0ZXN0IHRoYXQgSQ0KPiBjYW4gc2V0IG9m ZiBhdCBuaWdodCBhbmQgaGF2ZSBpdCBpbnN0YWxsZWQgYnkgbW9ybmluZy4gICAgIEFueSBleGFj dA0KPiBVUkwncyB3b3VsZCBiZSBhIGdyZWF0IGhlbHAuDQoNCkhpIEdhcnksDQoNClRoZSBiZXN0 IHBsYWNlIGZvciB0aGUgbW9zdCByZWNlbnQgaW5mb3JtYXRpb246DQoNCiAgaHR0cDovL3BvcnRp bmcub3Blbm9mZmljZS5vcmcvZnJlZWJzZC8NCg0KQSBub3RlOiBpZiB5b3UgcGxhbiB0byBpbnN0 YWxsIE9Pby0yLjMuWCBwYWNrYWdlcyBmcm9tIGdvb2QtZGF5Lm5ldCBvbg0KNi5YLCB5b3UnbGwg cHJvYmFibHkgaGF2ZSB0byBpbnN0YWxsIGdjYyA+PSA0LjIgeW91cnNlbGYuDQoNCkJlc3QgcmVn YXJkcy4NCi0gLS0gDQpOaWtvbGEgTGXEjWnEhyA9INCd0LjQutC+0LvQsCDQm9C10YfQuNGbDQpm aW5nZXJwcmludCA6IEZFRjMgNjZBRiBDOTBFIEVEQzMgRDg3OCAgN0NEQyA5NTZEIEY0QUIgQTM3 NyAxQzlCDQoNCi0tLS0tQkVHSU4gUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQpWZXJzaW9uOiBHbnVQRyB2 Mi4wLjQgKEZyZWVCU0QpDQoNCmlRQ1ZBd1VCUjZwRXkvekRQOUsyQ0tHWUFRTXdoUVFBZ3Z5TWJx Q1Rxcy9aVWhENzVheGFqTXFyTGl5SWtzRU4NCm80REE3MlhoejRXekVYUEIvbWJ6L01EUm1pUFE4 T2J1NnpIbXlONU10aGNBUWJ1cjhWcmNxbHhyVlBxMXNncTANClpWZ2F3RGk2MFlaS2thcUVjQnNk bTQxOVBtR2kvL3h1aUJKOHJ4MU9rd0pTZ0RGcWdaQng5ek5TMzZ0VVZXaVYNClZGZVVUWm01RW5B PQ0KPTJZM3oNCi0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQ0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:40:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFEF16A46C for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6769113C442 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16NdKot075205; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:39:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16NdH0I075202; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:39:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:39:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Alex de Kruijff In-Reply-To: <20080206210732.GA1131@Alex1.kruijff.org> Message-ID: <20080207003849.M75201@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206210732.GA1131@Alex1.kruijff.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nice for IO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:40:33 -0000 AFAIK - there is no such thing in FreeBSD On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > I'm looking for tool that limit the IO acces to a process similair as > what nice / idprio does with the CPU but only ten for IO. > > Any pointers? > -- > Alex > > Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. > > Howtos based on my personal use, including information about > setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG > http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 23:40:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8258216A417 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEC013C467 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m16NeVPI075213; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:40:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m16NeQR9075209; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:40:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:40:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: alex@schnarff.com In-Reply-To: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> Message-ID: <20080207003949.U75201@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206142843.8hwz8rim80sgok8g@mail.schnarff.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df & du showing different usages for /var X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:40:48 -0000 > clean things up and ensure that it didn't happen again. Using the "du" > command to look for offending directories and files, I wiped out a bunch of > old Apache and Qmail logs...and then found that I was still using 90% of the you forgot to restart apache and qmail. and they keep these logs open. in unix you may delete open file, but it will be actually deleted when closed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 00:07:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E93216A494 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C70613C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 57D239B4001; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:07:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:07:06 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:07:07 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 03:25:16PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >not used anything google for several years now. No gmail, no Picassa, > >nothing I can avoid. No deep political reasons, just a personal choice. > > exactly as me. > > i really don't understand people that CAN have normal mail (especially > admins) using gmail. > > it's just strange. Well, to share some reasons.... There are two issues here. The first is why anyone who runs his/her own mail server would want to use a third-party (webmail) server. The second is why specifically Gmail. To answer the first question, it's largely an issue of availablity and backups. Most services like Gmail handle backups for you. Although most don't give any sort of SLA, they will usually put a lot of thought and effort into keeping your mail, and keeping it available (by being up.) If you have the resources to duplicate this, as someone who runs an ISP might, then webmail itself probably has less of an advantage. The second question, "Why Gmail as opposed to other services?" is answered by how Google differentiates their service. The first, and most obvious difference is in storage space. For my purposes, I'll probably never run out of storage on Google's server. Most other free webmail services, however, aren't adequate. I've got over a gigabyte of mail on my personal mailhost alone. For high-availablity mail (primarily for things I may need in the event that my co-located server goes down, along with other important things that I simply need access to without fail), I have several hundred megabytes. If I'm going to use Webmail, Google fits the bill with its essentially unlimlited storage. Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great job of blocking spam. I'm sure that I could do almost as good a job, however that would put quite a bit of load on my mail server. That server already hosts mail for many domains and many users--anything I can shove onto Gmail to avoid processing spam on my host is going to be nice. With IMAP, it becomes even nicer. I can manage public mailing lists (who cares if anyone knows that I'm subscribed to those, anyway?) on Google mail with their excellent spam filtering, and my personal mail can go to my personal host. Anyway, that's mostly my thinking, anyway. One of these days, I'm going to set up my personal host to encrypt and forward mail onto Gmail, so that it's all available whenever I want. I'll typically read it on my host, and grab anything from Gmail if something happens to require it. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 00:11:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2979B16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from havok173@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C160813C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from havok173@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so4632303pyb.10 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:11:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=FsGIZHCf/mjkwd1U5NwJjU83xLFR0JoPT3HybZFExLU=; b=xFKsNZKegcp7OXP4wVTWIcxfj3ooLtnuqyV1xmD4vmCX32BZAYwnYh7+/X4HN+g/GLFF9LPnIMjBU9fJ1ovvQPBokfhGp6Wvs46RP43g8pAW4o6qyrPLoseaWje/rbTELqW/qD7/zSv5RFASqEUF6NV+ExhDW0HniElh9cp1Glc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=K9zYWGpmPF3AHs68j2gK7n+xQHx4T/hE7akhbVmma1hD0UKoxj1TSn9L9nYByymd0BLmPUpPTW4rBES4qbV5YgUh2SryJNLIR7jWwWLaxEWVOKJoNBR1cjlRtIY9k5aIXL8QkUKXNKzYwCHKe0LLhwtjNs3EPEQ236kLAiLuizI= Received: by 10.140.147.18 with SMTP id u18mr7091208rvd.267.1202341514638; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.28.17 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 From: "Eli Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:11:34 -0000 Hey Everyone, I wasn't sure if -questions or -tuning would be a better place for this question, so i thought i'd start general and work up the ladder of specificity if you all think it would be more appropriate. I recently installed FreeBSD 7.0 RC-1 on my hobby system, and so far i think it's pretty awesome. I've been using FreeBSD pretty solidly as a unix hobbyist for the past 7 years or so, and this definitely seems like one of the best releases i've played with in a long time. I do have one concern though. While idle desktop performance is smooth as silk, performance seems to degrade whenever i'm compiling things (like, performing a buildworld, installing from ports, etc) which manifests itself as considerable lag in standard desktop operations, like browsing the web, chatting on pidgin, etc. I've experienced this before in past releases, but never really thought much of it, and for the most part ignored it. However, it's my understanding that this release is supposed to be the fastest release yet on the post-4.x code base. I'm assuming there's got to be some system tune-ables that I can play with to eek out the most performance i can for desktop-related applications. Most of the resources i've looked at online seem to be mainly focused on server performance. Do any of you know of any resources that can lead me down the right path to Daemonly desktop bliss? Thanks, Eli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 00:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D67816A417; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from optimus.centralmiss.com (ns.centralmiss.com [206.156.254.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2569C13C4E9; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-072-148-013-213.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [72.148.13.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by optimus.centralmiss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E3428431; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:08:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 72AA761C44; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:08:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:08:31 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080207000831.GO62553@over-yonder.net> References: <1563a4fd0802052211h623de132q68a1ad0c8a9b930c@mail.gmail.com> <230174700802060040x4f2a0815r1a4bdc7fccf62b5d@mail.gmail.com> <20080206095133.GA94134@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080206095133.GA94134@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17-fullermd.4 (2007-11-01) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:05:02 +0000 Cc: navneet Upadhyay , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading the Installed package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:39:58 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:51:33AM -0800 I heard the voice of Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus: > > So let's tell Navneet exactly what he's getting into, shall we? OK, but let's do that by telling him what he's getting into, not vague gestures at overblown half-truths. > - Ruby is not included in the base system; you have to install it > from ports (read: just another thing to have to maintain...) My workstation has about 800 ports installed. A relatively lean server has 300. 1 more is so deep in the noise, you can't hardly measure it, much less see it. > ports base system: > - C-based, and includes all of the pkg_* utilities. Nearly every > FreeBSD user/administrator is familiar with these tools. Can't upgrade things. Show me how I use pkg_* to upgrade a package (let's say, gtk), and have all the metadata set right afterward. Requires either stupid amounts of manual work, or a lot of scripting (I upgrade perl. How do I rebuild p5-*?). > portupgrade: > - Maintains its own database of ports installed, dependencies, and > so on -- COMPLETELY separate from that of the ports base system. Which is just a cache of the existing files, and can be blown away at any time with no consequences other than a minute or two remaking them. > - Said database must be kept in sync with ports base system > dependencies and other whatnots; and if they go out of sync Which it rebuilds when it notices is out of date. The only time I've had problems out of it in years of using portupgrade is when I do something like update BDB (or less often, portupgrade or ruby-bdb). Whoopie. Consider the recent case involving sudo and portmaster; when you use a tool to update a low-level piece of itself, you have to take some care how you go about it. > - Said database is Berkeley DB-based, which means you have to install > Oracle/Sleepycat BDB from ports. (I believe you can pick DB1.x > which comes with libc, but it's not recommended due to bugs). So now we're up to 4 ports to install? If you can make that my biggest worry, I'll sent you a ginormous certified check first thing in the morning. There are a lot of things to hate in portupgrade, but let's don't pile handwaving anthills into mountains on top of that. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 01:27:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DFD16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S4=e3227608@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3419313C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S4=e3227608@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D28164686 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850AB23E4A9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:07:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:07:34 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:27:02 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 "Eli Scott" wrote: > I recently installed FreeBSD 7.0 RC-1 on my hobby system, >.. > performance seems to degrade whenever i'm compiling > things (like, performing a buildworld, installing from ports, etc) > which manifests itself as considerable lag in standard desktop > operations, I've noticed this too, it always used to be the case that building didn't make all that much difference to desktop use, but now it make a severe difference. Nice helps, but it only makes the problem intermittent. I've tried changing the scheduler to ULE, and disabling SMP, but it didn't help. There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 01:41:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A658916A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB2513C455 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id F12499B4002; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:41:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:41:07 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Jonathan Franks Message-ID: <20080207014107.GA22094@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Jonathan Franks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:41:08 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:32:44PM -0500, Jonathan Franks wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Erik Osterholm wrote: > > ..... > > Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great > > job of blocking spam. > > Really? I can't say that I've had the same experience. I'd say that 80 > percent of what ends up in my inbox is unadulterated spam. > I still use it for similar reasons as you, but I can't agree on this > point. > -Jonathan That's pretty interesting. I started keeping statistics on my spam count becuase it was so rare. Since I started using Gmail (shortly after they launched), the most I've gotten in a month is 4 spam messages hitting my inbox. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 01:59:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D60716A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daemon@taconic.net) Received: from smtp.taconic.net (rad0.taconic.fairpoint.net [205.231.149.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10D5113C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daemon@taconic.net) Received: (qmail 19059 invoked by uid 502); 7 Feb 2008 01:32:49 -0000 Received: from dsl-216-227-80-158.taconic.net (HELO ?192.168.1.74?) (daemon@taconic.net@216.227.80.158) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 01:32:49 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.80.158 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl-216-227-80-158.taconic.net In-Reply-To: <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: From: Jonathan Franks Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:32:44 -0500 To: Erik Osterholm X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:59:30 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Erik Osterholm wrote: > ..... > > Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great > job of blocking spam. Really? I can't say that I've had the same experience. I'd say that 80 percent of what ends up in my inbox is unadulterated spam. I still use it for similar reasons as you, but I can't agree on this point. -Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 02:18:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C78916A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A36113C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m172INtC032902 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:18:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:18:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:18:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080207021819.GA6678@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: mail checker for evo/kmail//mutt->IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:18:27 -0000 Can anybody point me to a mailbox checker that works from a "desktop" and watches (via network), the mail server? Until my re-org, xbiff was sufficient. But no mo'. thanks for any suggestions, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 02:24:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4132816A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF35F13C43E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so2938205wri.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:24:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Kb4Hgv5+5gUROXpKnZRAOb7nFSFRLxQ2rKiRgl6CuJw=; b=T7Oj0K36u1Uds8VTxqbPgqBTJRHlVID3Q9v0V2HpN/qQACRL3jMGMmnzf653JOtuH9luKgH/17/tjTTwNaFUXPqB413GXU/WuPyibcAGPNLbJYuPH96L5juipSGh3qTLHkyTWqPY5Z42WndDttshggZoP985+No7xgM8mJATXJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fz9EMakmAfszu1ud7jpIlGBCwaQ5dtE/KwHFHI9wQWwrQWLNWN0uNzO0p1BDYwgJw16y5m5AoXOCgYxVLab32aMwGIKjU1PG9UkiXl+Co4mW9o6yXSLJqs1OFdDdYNI0Craq8wJOqCvwetw5TwELZzgEGx1l+xyEpGYwEIqiOj8= Received: by 10.151.6.2 with SMTP id j2mr4481964ybi.86.1202351048788; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:24:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:24:08 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> Cc: OutBackDingo , Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:24:10 -0000 I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to "NO" - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' # arp -a ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] # ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give "Network is unreachable" I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. The /etc/hosts and /etc/dhclient.conf are the original ones, coming from BSD install, untouched. What else can I do ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:36 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: > > > At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: > > Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try > your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. > > If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my > initial cry for help. > > Eugen > > ### Console options > keymap="us.iso" > font8x8="NO" > font8x14="NO" > font8x16="NO" > scrnmap="NO" > keyrate="fast" > cursor="blink" > blanktime="900" > saver="warp" > > ### Mouse daemon > mousechar_start="NO" > moused_enable="NO" > moused_flags="" > moused_port="/dev/sysmouse" > moused_type="auto" > > ### IPv6 options > ipv6_enable="NO" > > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > > ### PF firewall > # pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load > module if required) > # pf_flags="" # > additional flags for pfctl startup > # pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules > definition file for pf > # pflog_enable="YES" # start pflogd(8) > # pflog_flags="" # additional > flags for pflogd startup > # pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd > should store the logfile > > ### Miscellaneous administrative options > kern_securelevel="-1" # range: -1..3 ; > `-1' is the most insecure > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" # kernel security level > (see init(8)), > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. > devfs_system_ruleset="devfsrules_local" # The name of a ruleset to apply to > /dev > dmesg_enable="YES" # Save dmesg(8) to > /var/run/dmesg.boot > update_motd="YES" # update version > info in /etc/motd (or NO) > virecover_enable="NO" # Perform > housekeeping for the vi(1) editor > > usbd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" # Run the usbd daemon. > usbd_flags="" # Flags to > usbd (if enabled). > > lpd_enable="YES" > Eugen, > > I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a > router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY > the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static > IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions > (file sharing, DNS, etc.) > > Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: > ============================================================== > #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 > defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" > #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts > hostname="myhostname.mydomainname.com" > #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range > ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ============================================================== > > These are all you need to get it working. > > If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router > you need to set that up in your router. > > -Derek > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 02:44:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABD616A468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F6E13C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m172iTsn033034; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:44:29 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802061844.29534.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Nikola =?utf-8?q?Le=C4=8Di=C4=87?= Subject: Re: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:44:48 -0000 On Wednesday 06 February 2008 15:37:18 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:20:53 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > To cut down my email I unsub'd to the OOo mailing list, so I'll ask > > here if there is a new package of the latest or near-latest that I > > can set off at night and have it installed by morning. Any exact > > URL's would be a great help. > > Hi Gary, > > The best place for the most recent information: > > http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ > > A note: if you plan to install OOo-2.3.X packages from good-day.net on > 6.X, you'll probably have to install gcc >=3D 4.2 yourself. > > Best regards. Thanks Nikola. I just checked and found the latest is 2.3.0 -- and for 6.x, while I'm running 7.0-rcx. (*sigh*) The last time I tried to build OO, = it=20 broke. This was running the Gnome windowing suite, not KDE. Can you=20 [[ or anyone else onlist ]] tell me of successes or snafus in building 2.3.1 from src?? I prefer building from src over a package even if it does take = a=20 day++ to finish. It's not fun, tho, when the compiler gets almost done, an= d=20 then things break..... Oh *well* :-) gary =20 =2D-=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 02:53:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C630916A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E6413C455 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVU00EUSLCW13Y0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:53:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:53:15 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <1202352795.16546.3.camel@ecerejo.netgear.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cc: Subject: Evolution slow to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:53:21 -0000 Does anyone know what might be causing evolution to crawl (more than a minute to open up)? It's been a while since I used it but when I did it wasn't this slow to open up. I don't see any error messages, so I can't post any of them. I have a feeling that it's looking for something before it comes up on the screen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 03:15:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D008316A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAFF13C447 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2308838rvb.43 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:15:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fNTL/a/MuOiM/0y5Mvdcw/NV1LSIBhPiBm1fe/NF4OI=; b=N49jTfeQ9r4xsoyFc3KXOaFR5FUbUkajJC3I2clUOp1y04atjkvvDYWb4Cx0AjLW86UCRx+0bsHc1hLmCfU2zHy241gP55XD9mt8NTj8VbNKqlkiZSGg4v20Q5WfcBrpWq8QIvuJQOim/8FDcXV2ILEv5ioIpkhWf/tLOxBz9T4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=mN8TTFfJ+JouVdCOeggHing1eYaVTOaiNotq1KFSsIvbGCPbxhkpVyo7dnn0vvFduerWNfs/OzDczWYRuZvTElKw2blTwgNzR2vpOs39Pawkbsu1fI06fulCd06h9JcPKxkDAFvOsXYAlPiL6FGjCC8MdK2vWuuLMn4/CJv5flQ= Received: by 10.141.37.8 with SMTP id p8mr7201428rvj.178.1202352413193; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [124.157.234.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b24sm3009211rvf.1.2008.02.06.18.46.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:46:52 -0800 (PST) From: OutBackDingo To: Eugen In-Reply-To: References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:46:33 +0800 Message-Id: <1202352394.7754.5.camel@myhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:15:59 -0000 But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or did you customize it ? On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:24 -0600, Eugen wrote: > I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : > > - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated > - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to "NO" > - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: > > # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 > ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' > > # arp -a > ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] > > # ifconfig -a > dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 > inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give "Network is unreachable" > > I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the > router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working > again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. > > The /etc/hosts and /etc/dhclient.conf are the original ones, coming from BSD > install, untouched. > > What else can I do ? > > Eugen > > On Feb 6, 2008 8:36 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: > > > > > > At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: > > > > Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try > > your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. > > > > If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my > > initial cry for help. > > > > Eugen > > > > ### Console options > > keymap="us.iso" > > font8x8="NO" > > font8x14="NO" > > font8x16="NO" > > scrnmap="NO" > > keyrate="fast" > > cursor="blink" > > blanktime="900" > > saver="warp" > > > > ### Mouse daemon > > mousechar_start="NO" > > moused_enable="NO" > > moused_flags="" > > moused_port="/dev/sysmouse" > > moused_type="auto" > > > > ### IPv6 options > > ipv6_enable="NO" > > > > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > > > > ### PF firewall > > # pf_enable="YES" # Enable PF (load > > module if required) > > # pf_flags="" # > > additional flags for pfctl startup > > # pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules > > definition file for pf > > # pflog_enable="YES" # start pflogd(8) > > # pflog_flags="" # additional > > flags for pflogd startup > > # pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd > > should store the logfile > > > > ### Miscellaneous administrative options > > kern_securelevel="-1" # range: -1..3 ; > > `-1' is the most insecure > > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" # kernel security level > > (see init(8)), > > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > > clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. > > devfs_system_ruleset="devfsrules_local" # The name of a ruleset to apply to > > /dev > > dmesg_enable="YES" # Save dmesg(8) to > > /var/run/dmesg.boot > > update_motd="YES" # update version > > info in /etc/motd (or NO) > > virecover_enable="NO" # Perform > > housekeeping for the vi(1) editor > > > > usbd_enable="YES" > > usbd_enable="YES" # Run the usbd daemon. > > usbd_flags="" # Flags to > > usbd (if enabled). > > > > lpd_enable="YES" > > Eugen, > > > > I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a > > router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY > > the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static > > IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions > > (file sharing, DNS, etc.) > > > > Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: > > ============================================================== > > #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 > > defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" > > #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts > > hostname="myhostname.mydomainname.com" > > #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range > > ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ============================================================== > > > > These are all you need to get it working. > > > > If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router > > you need to set that up in your router. > > > > -Derek > > > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 03:25:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A459A16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EE213C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2310647rvb.43 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:25:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uCW7MhDEeMpGaOAaotFqOo0wbXv8lGrrSsnRjM0QC9g=; b=aEvm1EI8U5ZRp9/aTjMwGGiPsJtfsfnJlwj6CKIQZ6g3BH8aJgh1MF1rFswPb+2RXwUfG079DnDBottnf4PoglcT6sM5InhzMDlh5W/zva6AG9bVLqKnxxyAuPuBAxhi1IK2ODAJCe3iKi8V3aMreX2Im2NdIFg5w4HD21vgr9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BaIoCUEAiFPHE1k0YViGjZS+nrYTKVPn2yZvsqSmsSMnqMDEjVh3J8sOduP6N+QWF9Pl8gDhghckk59GqMCIzux5ARxWDavMZ5UtGUzvkvK5xuyBIr7RsHJ2cwXgeGDlO7Q1c/zkdtF3sjmE5DFnpExdj1Tg+OubtSclsXQQ94M= Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr7203176rvi.161.1202353103115; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pclmills.lanl.gov ( [69.254.137.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k34sm11838607rvb.23.2008.02.06.18.58.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:58:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AA73D7.20208@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:58:31 -0700 From: James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <1202352795.16546.3.camel@ecerejo.netgear.com> In-Reply-To: <1202352795.16546.3.camel@ecerejo.netgear.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Evolution slow to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:25:54 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Does anyone know what might be causing evolution to crawl (more than a > minute to open up)? It's been a while since I used it but when I did it > wasn't this slow to open up. I don't see any error messages, so I can't > post any of them. I have a feeling that it's looking for something > before it comes up on the screen. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > What version of the OS are you using? I had this issue after upgrading from 6.2 -- eventually switched my mail client to a different computer because it was so slow checking evolution on that box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 03:28:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3686E16A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF4213C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1377935rnb.13 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oMDGJjiEE7NlRuQRb2R00PmAC8W8NdtRlyVYEilnW8I=; b=t1ovS3Vzzprrbd57BIebdBx77ycYrTiAuzba77t4tpjlx+9PMU5ILF+Lfer3SgnFuVjdSHynx+WhQmjEiEx9uJsEOKuukICIscR15ZlMJnALyUn6FmAPBbXPKEbLDYjKu8XDmoJc8n1YLGJD+RxqJO02imhPE3yl0xBSMW+9Hco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pr+LTt40XluuZofa+2xbvMCub9rBx9ua9asUtpv9VpS5UP2uzBJtbB7SYhcffvxoy3Y89sW9A+MeeGXZYQcKcu4Ouu6h5NdjSStr0B78D9xHJxAJ4ltJA8mSDccY4XQD1tBewbxdo3pZbLiSaXpjhAHDC33LlJ3/lRNgZjon52E= Received: by 10.150.49.15 with SMTP id w15mr4501655ybw.32.1202354883884; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.157.7 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:28:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8c58490802061928q323641a8kfdcbd347dcdd1124@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:28:03 -0300 From: "Oren Almog" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <47A62F6A.9020807@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> <47A62F6A.9020807@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:28:05 -0000 Oren Almog wrote: > > Hi > > > > When are new binary packages available? Are they compiled only at > RELEASEs? > > No, they are compiled and updated continuously. > > Kris > Thanks. I understand that the RELEASE directory contains only packages that were compiled with a specific version was released. Can you explain the differences between port directories for stable and current? Will I find different packages on /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current and /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-current? What about /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable ? I can't find this in the handbook, I apologize in case it's there and I missed it. Oren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:05:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E3A16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA2E13C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so2764804wxd.7 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:05:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Y6tpbZok2flHbC3XXHN5Lgy6Hmn91b1dEKth7eRwZIQ=; b=FGLjkQqaEmqqcedRKShCBiq6qt1nKrEVmKYIw/lWsaQJSwdjWQU3jAOM+Q7rVTO/SKwgiKaNQoYDXlJkvvPwAd/KirDERQEOW93Ie7xxKrlCJv6gf7JPBGGHb9SMtV/JOqj8ktG60JeVhpGS/JSF/Wmp7dF5VMbQkgpKTOvtWhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FRQD4DdufQiFKUPbB83TSBRaxnMgQ7ZebigawLKUUCSnWfd7wmyJm+Ls7DD6K4+uEuTN0ESdeO3XBiOizRU0ncvrV3DbsI5zDfSa+Zzc/mtRHyr1HxkyQ+Q45SdjT7HfXaXGuNFZ4QZv0YqoMa+/nOeH7Sk2A+rcUPWx55sFdGU= Received: by 10.150.134.7 with SMTP id h7mr4504920ybd.103.1202357150953; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.157.7 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:05:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e8c58490802062005g310123a3l53654d098cc3bdd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:05:50 -0300 From: "Oren Almog" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <9e8c58490802061928q323641a8kfdcbd347dcdd1124@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> <47A62F6A.9020807@FreeBSD.org> <9e8c58490802061928q323641a8kfdcbd347dcdd1124@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:05:52 -0000 > > > Oren Almog wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > When are new binary packages available? Are they compiled only at > > RELEASEs? > > > > No, they are compiled and updated continuously. > > > > Kris > > > > Thanks. > > I understand that the RELEASE directory contains only packages that were > compiled with a specific version was released. Can you explain the > differences between port directories for stable and current? > > Will I find different packages on > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current and > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-current? What about > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable ? > > I can't find this in the handbook, I apologize in case it's there and I > missed it. > > Oren Ok. I think I just figured out that the only difference is that the packages were compiled against a specific version such a 7,8,stable, current etc... So, if a certain package is updated to a new version will it be compiled for all branches except for releases? How often are packages compiled? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:06:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699B916A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEBD13C46E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 18688 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 22:06:49 -0600 Received: from 124-170-113-73.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.113.73) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 22:06:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:06:32 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080207150632.2f11e9fc@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chess Griffin Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:06:50 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:44:35 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what is most strange are FreeBSD admins from that list , many of them > really good, unable to just create e-mails for themselves on one of their > servers, but using gmail. just because some people use gmail for public mailing lists doesn't mean those same accounts and services are used for their private email. > it's just... stupid. to you :). I am not disagreeing with your views about google / the big players, but there are worse things out there than letting google index your gmail account containing public mailing lists postings. :) B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:08:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAE816A46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300A313C447 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 19039 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 22:08:40 -0600 Received: from 124-170-113-73.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.113.73) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 22:08:39 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:08:24 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Kurt Buff" Message-ID: <20080207150824.7e0278d7@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206164243.67122df2@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:08:40 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:08:51 -0800 "Kurt Buff" wrote: > I can think of several others - yet I use gmail, because it's so > convenient. Some of this can be mitigated by using a POP3/IMAP client > instead of the web interface. > > 1) can't put a graphic in-line with text > > 2) forwards and replies *ruin* html-formatted emails > > 3) message threading seem to be based on the subject line, not the > message-id - this one is actually the most frustrating one for me. i hardly use gmail's own interface - i access it via imap over SSL from Claws-Mail .... all except the 'html email' point (which I dont use and care about) should be addressed by using a client... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:14:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551AA16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6F813C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 19605 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 22:14:37 -0600 Received: from 124-170-113-73.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.113.73) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 22:14:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:14:15 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:14:37 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap > > file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification > > especially with todays drives - it's waste of time to implement this. > nobody use swap FILES at all if swapping is needed unless he/she have no > choice. > > swapping partition always will be faster. > > > believe this happened to when the swap partition and a > > swap file were on the same drive. Perhaps a way should > > be looked at to have multiple swap partititions and > > why you simply won't make swap partition BIGGER on the first place. > > swapping to files will be always much slower. Even if you HAD to use files, i can't imagine that writing a script that groks the output of the proper sysctl and creates a new swap file on demand would be that hard. But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:48:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007516A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB65013C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so2773026wxd.7 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:48:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ExSLz7acrys3oSDtKDC2jF/+adF8f3gGmeULT1w0MII=; b=nHSUm3D7KvzYIuPzAc3kFw9GlPVYV81K6a6Q14zeWhMMlHd8z7NV+SIYbnaTWrN9bwZ3st5f0CQB0eh2uZLTSh0or8EFFegFQGFzFkmT404t6uhA8/PbVrAMvbHBL6D90H9bMl7tf8A7v/5Mecj7QoJAqsviJPwtUXiPr+ZYUno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ce/JIvd8SHo4QTHOEa1oGdBy+eF0YDIb8ydFADvfTgSbaopHmdlo9xsAydu16AdC1dj5kcezlDGnAoqM0Ub8KkIvedP6p6mma0P+ILgnkOaLjNde0eAT0dP6Kmiv+SgoAowjub6CaM6szo7Q2cFMB2jgZmUtbFilRDNMU6VAatE= Received: by 10.150.190.9 with SMTP id n9mr4521450ybf.127.1202359709833; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:48:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:48:29 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1202352394.7754.5.camel@myhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1202352394.7754.5.camel@myhost> Cc: OutBackDingo Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:48:31 -0000 That's what I get when I put ipv6_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf : $ ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet6 fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 And yes, it is a customized kernel. Would it be useful to attach my config file ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:46 PM, OutBackDingo wrote: > But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an > instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning > > in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its > commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or > did you customize it ? 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( [124.157.234.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm12936153rvi.32.2008.02.06.20.52.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:52:42 -0800 (PST) From: OutBackDingo To: Eugen In-Reply-To: References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1202352394.7754.5.camel@myhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:52:25 +0800 Message-Id: <1202359946.7754.7.camel@myhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:52:43 -0000 Yeah you might want to attach the kernel config just to make sure nothing was dropped that needs to be there , when you got this dc0 ip of 192.168.1.33 was that set staticly?? On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 22:48 -0600, Eugen wrote: > That's what I get when I put ipv6_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf : > > $ ifconfig -a > dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 > inet6 fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > And yes, it is a customized kernel. Would it be useful to attach my > config file ? > > Eugen > > On Feb 6, 2008 8:46 PM, OutBackDingo wrote: > > But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an > > instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning > > > > in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its > > commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or > > did you customize it ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 06:32:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCD016A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B58B13C4EC for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m176W7IX087578 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:32:16 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:32:10 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way better than disc. Regards, Jason Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 06:35:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A516A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casper@web.am) Received: from mx1.web.am (mx1.web.am [217.113.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3644B13C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casper@web.am) Received: from localhost (localhost.web.am [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FF1F62561; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:11:10 +0400 (AMT) Received: from aldan.web.am (unknown [217.113.20.82]) by mx1.web.am (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEF263FD0; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:46:52 +0400 (AMT) Message-ID: <47AA8D49.6040304@web.am> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:47:05 +0400 From: Gaspar Chilingarov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?Tmlrb2xhIExlxI1pxIc=?= References: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:35:20 -0000 My personal choice is to run 32-bit Linux version of OO under linux emulation (2.4.x branch) First of all it survives FreeBSD base system/gcc/etc updates pretty well :) when using native one you should fiddle with compat libraries sometimes and so on. Second -- it runs faster than native one :), especially if you got 64-bit processor. Third -- you can get more recent linux version earlier than freebsd package. I'm running -CURRENT, so FreeBSD packages complited for older version not always work well or even does not work at all. /Gaspar -- Gaspar Chilingarov System Administrator, Network security consulting t +37493 419763 (mob) i 63174784 e nm@web.am w http://gasparchilingarov.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 07:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614D116A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302113C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-28-93.net-htp.de [89.182.28.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D79FA44529; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:17:17 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:18:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> In-Reply-To: <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: "Jason C. Wells" Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:17:19 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: > Norberto Meijome wrote: > > But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? > > One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way > you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance > would be way better than disc. Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 07:26:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06AD16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6A513C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2ED405C67; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:26:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AAB28F.10705@bsdforen.de> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:26:07 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:26:10 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: >> Norberto Meijome wrote: >>> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? >> One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way >> you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance >> would be way better than disc. > > Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by > RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access > RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in > which case you have a chicken and egg problem. > Or it's backed by a file (-t vnode, which is implicated by -f). I have used files for swap, just to see weather it works, others have done it because they had to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 07:36:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F90716A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C213C51B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-28-93.net-htp.de [89.182.28.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9F7A44529 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:36:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:37:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> <47AAB28F.10705@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <47AAB28F.10705@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802070837.54337.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:36:28 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 08:26:07 schrieb Dominic Fandrey: > Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: > >> Norberto Meijome wrote: > >>> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? > >> > >> One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way > >> you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance > >> would be way better than disc. > > > > Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up > > by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to > > access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up > > by swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Or it's backed by a file (-t vnode, which is implicated by -f). I have used > files for swap, just to see weather it works, others have done it because > they had to. True, sorry I forgot to mention that, but swapping to a file (based on a standard disk) won't get you any speed-ups relative to a (dedicated) swap-partition on a disk either, and that's (if I understood the original poster properly) what was suggested. I can understand the need for swap files (esp. in some environments where there's no easy way to just add physical memory or disk space for a task requiring huge amounts of it), but generally they offer no speed up at all to a dedicated swap (or memory in itself). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:10:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE8516A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F298013C4CC for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1788pnc022606; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:08:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m171FgqQ081844; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:15:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:15:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Osterholm In-Reply-To: <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> Message-ID: <20080207021415.Q81843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:10:57 -0000 > To answer the first question, it's largely an issue of availablity and > backups. Most services like Gmail handle backups for you. Although i talked about unix admins using g-mail. do you mean that they like gmail doing backups for them. so what they are doing with all these servers they (should) care of? not making any backups? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:11:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BE616A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:11:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153EB13C448; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47AABD17.90800@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:11:03 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oren Almog References: <9e8c58490802031254y1fdeb7d2laf989382f19c3469@mail.gmail.com> <47A62F6A.9020807@FreeBSD.org> <9e8c58490802061928q323641a8kfdcbd347dcdd1124@mail.gmail.com> <9e8c58490802062005g310123a3l53654d098cc3bdd0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e8c58490802062005g310123a3l53654d098cc3bdd0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports binary packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:11:05 -0000 Oren Almog wrote: > > > > > > > Oren Almog wrote: > > Hi > > > > When are new binary packages available? Are they compiled > only at RELEASEs? > > No, they are compiled and updated continuously. > > Kris > > > Thanks. > > I understand that the RELEASE directory contains only packages that > were compiled with a specific version was released. Can you explain > the differences between port directories for stable and current? > > Will I find different packages on > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current and > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-current? What about > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable ? > > I can't find this in the handbook, I apologize in case it's there > and I missed it. > > Oren > > > Ok. I think I just figured out that the only difference is that the > packages were compiled against a specific version such a 7,8,stable, > current etc... So, if a certain package is updated to a new version will > it be compiled for all branches except for releases? How often are > packages compiled? > > > In a loop, period is a couple of days to a couple of weeks depending on your architecture. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:20:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2489816A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1013C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178JFuI022660; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:19:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178JCM7022657; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:19:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:19:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> Message-ID: <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:20:44 -0000 > disabling SMP, but it didn't help. > > There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse > performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it > closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or > other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started > doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. > does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:26:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5646016A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759113C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178NxxU022671; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178Nocb022666; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan Franks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080207091923.Y22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:26:18 -0000 >> >> Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great >> job of blocking spam. even better. it blocks ligitimate e-mail very efficiently. for them - legitimate - means coming from the "wheel of friends" which means all other "free" huge services. everything else may pass, or may not, who knows. of course it's not just gmail problem, but all of it's "friends" too, and - quite often - of smaller mail services. using spamassassin as antispam looks safe (i'm using it quite long), using automatic IP-based blockers are bad. spamassassin weights probability of being spam giving point. when it classifies mail badly by one rule, and well by others it still does the good job. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:30:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203A16A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51E113C44B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178T60L043596; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:29:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178T09C043593; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:29:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:28:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> Message-ID: <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:30:32 -0000 > > Even if you HAD to use files, i can't imagine that writing a script that groks the output of the proper sysctl and creates a new swap file on demand would be that hard. for those usable to write simple script - there is /usr/ports/sysutils/swapd still - in XXI century disk sizes, even some overcommiting swap space doesn't make a problem. if program needs 10 or more times swap than memory, the program should be changed to use less memory hungry algorithm, or be tunable (like sort with -S) swap is NOT memory replacement From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:31:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4513916A46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A950A13C47E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178U5Ig043603; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:30:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178TqtS043600; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:30:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:29:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Jason C. Wells" In-Reply-To: <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> Message-ID: <20080207092921.P22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:31:29 -0000 > >> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? > > One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you > wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way > better than disc. > what a sense to allocate memory (as md is memory of disk backed) to swap. simply use that memory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:33:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95A016A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA513C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178VXpY043623; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:31:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178VTvO043620; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:31:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:31:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: <47AAB28F.10705@bsdforen.de> Message-ID: <20080207093024.W22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> <47AAB28F.10705@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" , "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:33:49 -0000 > > Or it's backed by a file (-t vnode, which is implicated by -f). I have used > files for swap, just to see weather it works, others have done it because > they had to. it works, just really slow. once i did this, and since then i always make big swap partitions, which are still few percent of disk space available, and i don't have any problems now From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:34:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F1B16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F5013C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so2458856mue.6 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:34:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JZlCc1KR8AnGXZPyef7chqLpKLqCA+Y5pJRZagjxCQQ=; b=K8uxrQWbFg/gQaqtJIHEkf4bX5zk564Z5Rx8KKVwyY7qA5T241KwWLi76jhAvfEwmyUI3aZ1JOfFFgvNfECy7Gs3tMBMnIoHZvvemVp8+eikYdnsUzMbr6E5SyqhZ2CQYjbj+QfFgU8hOLeJNVTUMyRqjqZdQGeErTnD+VUsl4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uDYn/j4IUG89+OHkDRil/6ucp0VnJZF0Sb6GEI/cVxs2QTYNpAiwdGA2MHEx04YBNPKM2lFWseUZsBGo3b2pIxtctf8BXK3P2/Rl+VhnK2+ASw9jmS+VKcDraIa7WNW+O2OLfV4/LP3nXoBXpI2dMdj4TRpHxJ7JnwJRNWiYpkg= Received: by 10.78.107.8 with SMTP id f8mr19583158huc.40.1202373288018; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:34:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802070034n1f0b67c8n21392241c4b81ca7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:34:47 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080207091923.Y22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080207091923.Y22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:34:50 -0000 2008/2/7, Wojciech Puchar : > >> > >> Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great > >> job of blocking spam. > even better. > it blocks ligitimate e-mail very efficiently. > > for them - legitimate - means coming from the "wheel of friends" which > means all other "free" huge services. > > everything else may pass, or may not, who knows. > > of course it's not just gmail problem, but all of it's "friends" too, and > - quite often - of smaller mail services. > > > using spamassassin as antispam looks safe (i'm using it quite long), using > automatic IP-based blockers are bad. > spamassassin weights probability of being spam giving point. > when it classifies mail badly by one rule, and well by others it still > does the good job. What does the above have to do with "OT: www search engines" subject and freebsd in general? If you don't like gmail, no one's pushing you to use it. Kind regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 08:39:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E39616A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569E613C46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m178bCOO043635; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:37:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m178avlQ043630; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:36:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:36:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20080207150632.2f11e9fc@meijome.net> Message-ID: <20080207093242.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206225253.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AA2DAB.80508@chessgriffin.com> <20080206234001.R11626@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207150632.2f11e9fc@meijome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jeremy Gransden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chess Griffin Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:39:26 -0000 > just because some people use gmail for public mailing lists doesn't mean those same accounts and services are used for their private email. that's an explanation for part of them. but how about seeing an advert in city of small ISP offering it's services, and giving their contact info with both WWW page and e-mail on wp.pl (polish service, somewhat like yahoo etc..). it is...funny. but it is very common. we call this in Poland "shoemaker walking barefoot" >> it's just... stupid. > > to you :). > > I am not disagreeing with your views about google / the big players, but there are worse things out there than letting google index your gmail account containing public mailing lists postings. :) that's true. i am using gmail too. i created at least 50 account in "use once and forget" mode - to register somewhere or ask a question being anonymous etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 09:23:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E10B16A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seek@mailap.custhelp.com) Received: from utilap01.rightnowtech.com (utilap01.rightnowtech.com [216.136.229.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3CE13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seek@mailap.custhelp.com) Received: from utilap01.int.rightnowtech.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by utilap01.rightnowtech.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BC2BD1D7397 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:57:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <47AAC7EB.000009.10280@utilap01.int.rightnowtech.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:57:15 +0900 (WST) From: "ECU Student Central" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Update Contact Details X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ECU Student Central List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:23:14 -0000 As you are a new user, an account in ECU's new Enquiry Management=20 System has been created for you with the following User ID and=20 password: User ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Password: KYiRhnHR We encourage you to log in to ECU's Enquiry Management System support=20 site and change your password, by clicking the following link, or=20 pasting it into your browser: https://seek.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/seek.cfg/php/enduser/acct_login.php?p_n= ext_page=3Dmyprofile.php =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 09:23:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6FE16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from businessandlaw@ecu.edu.au) Received: from utilap01.rightnowtech.com (utilap01.rightnowtech.com [216.136.229.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026A913C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from businessandlaw@ecu.edu.au) Received: from utilap01.int.rightnowtech.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by utilap01.rightnowtech.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AA9E61D738B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:57:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <47AAC7EB.000008.10280@utilap01.int.rightnowtech.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:57:15 +0900 (WST) From: "ECU Business and Law" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Message could not be delivered [Incident: 080207-000332] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ECU Business and Law List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:23:19 -0000 Thank you for your enquiry to ECU. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 10:17:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FD816A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DACF13C519 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JN3oR-0001hi-CO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:16:59 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:16:59 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:16:59 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:18:09 +0100 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47616.9193782427$1202324783@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB6C1C4142A3DACC5BD761E98" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <47616.9193782427$1202324783@news.gmane.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:17:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB6C1C4142A3DACC5BD761E98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RW wrote: > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:55:12 +0100 > Ivan Voras wrote: >=20 >=20 >> I've seen some complicated examples on this thread, and want to >> suggest a simple one: >> >> 1. create a regular shell script in /etc/rc.d, n >> .. >> A more semantically pure example (and the one that's preferred if your= >> script starts an external application - a web server or something like= >> that) is to put the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. In any case, the >> syntax and everything else is the same. >=20 > This is a bit muddled. >=20 > /etc/rc.d is for system RCNG scripts. >=20 > /usr/local/etc/rc.d is for local RCNG scripts and legacy scripts You are right - I was trying to simplify it too much. > that simply respond to stop/start in $1. Legacy scripts end in .sh and > are called from /etc/rc.d/localpkg in dictionary order. >=20 > Since the OP appears to have such a script it should be given a ".sh" > extension and placed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, not in /etc/rc.d.=20 Thanks for the clarification! --------------enigB6C1C4142A3DACC5BD761E98 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHqtrhldnAQVacBcgRAo0aAJ4p6lLu1s0SKlFOfU96ktE+5TZdgwCeOjVw 6OPlP7Iv/FXP95g/K7S1uTI= =XhE/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB6C1C4142A3DACC5BD761E98-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 10:17:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF3C16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A05F13C4D3 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17AHbaS025846; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:37 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.32]) by mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m17AHU1Y011669; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:33 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp5-54.adsl.forthnet.gr [62.1.228.54]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m17AHTID008749; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:30 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m17AHSYT003103; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m17AHQmD003102; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:17:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: millueradfa@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20080207101726.GB3001@kobe.laptop> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:17:39 -0000 On 2008-02-06 09:23, "millueradfa@yahoo.com" wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Developers, > > I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be improved in an upcoming > release. > The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS , and POSIX > source compatability in regards to additional features supported by > these systems. I still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not supported > by FreeBSD that is a real headache. I ran into this with posix_memalign > in some software. Although posix_memalign is more modern, If it would > be trivial to add support for linux specific valloc and memalign why not > do so as well, to maintain compatability with older Linux software. It > is better to just make FreeBSD be as compatable and for stuff to compile > out of box, as possible than to haggle over conditional ifdefs and > changing lines of code in software. FWIW, posix_memalign() *is* supported by the new malloc() implementation in FreeBSD 7.X. The current RELENG_7 branch has it, so it has already found its way towards a release. If there are other library functions you would like to see implemented in FreeBSD too, then it would be nice to post a summary of your findings to freebsd-hackers or freebsd-arch :) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 11:25:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EFE16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21E213C4F9 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 25299 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 05:25:24 -0600 Received: from 124-170-113-73.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.113.73) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 05:25:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:25:08 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080207222508.703e3b46@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:25:26 -0000 On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:28:57 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > still - in XXI century disk sizes, even some overcommiting swap space > doesn't make a problem. > > if program needs 10 or more times swap than memory, the program should be > changed to use less memory hungry algorithm, or be tunable (like sort with > -S) > > swap is NOT memory replacement absolutely...and if your program needs so much memory, RAM will probably help a lot more than slow swap. RAM is quite cheap nowadays too. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "Life is just what happens to you, While your busy making other plans..." John Lennon I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 11:51:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FB116A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniele.dilorenzo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAEB13C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniele.dilorenzo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2435454rvb.43 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:51:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=H7g9VRzK6GBrskxNbWOmzWXSyYSDhN9KX082R1BOSnE=; b=qPhHYx6ts/uDu69hOLDj5TYgZdJnX0AqoIF3bsC0IsOXooRZhgMO0tzZImDfwVD/XomuNipTlf74t7u23h4/m9gfAhGcFnXy4MyCZBWz3WZ/jI+qq/U9QLO10pJ15pyTbTixxFq/nmZCcGk3S1AgoTu7BYOZcgmEAbmuNq9McG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qFLrS/TIiYhD/4TPVBtbjRIKTAruhAe+dJrLwPkvnjxzin+supKTXUlBJS4tZGT8OYoycT3OXn8MoeNvjK7iJ9/UmhvmLpxHeNemavjjALy+UTnQ+DefphsMUghp8zSbmrhnp0gou1c+MnUXuVfsa5wggBx3kuuZuhPHz0kg1fs= Received: by 10.141.99.4 with SMTP id b4mr7342998rvm.254.1202376412286; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.207.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:26:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39a9bdf10802070126p1b4047d6p171620276357231c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:26:52 +0100 From: "Daniele Di Lorenzo" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Question about freeBSD package. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:51:19 -0000 Dear FreeBSD, I am writting you to ask what are the license terms about bjorb package, downloaded from freeBSD site. Is it under BSD license?...is it possible the redistribution for commercial purpose? in different way, can you tell me who I can contact to get infomation about? Thanks in advance Daniele Di Lorenzo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 11:58:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD0F16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uq@clix.pt) Received: from mailrly02.isp.novis.pt (mailrly02.isp.novis.pt [195.23.133.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B608C13C44B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uq@clix.pt) Received: (qmail 31082 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 11:31:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailfrt02.isp.novis.pt) ([195.23.133.194]) (envelope-sender ) by mailrly02.isp.novis.pt with compressed SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 11:31:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 31076 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 11:31:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cigarra.isp.ip.pt) ([195.23.131.149]) (envelope-sender ) by mailfrt02.isp.novis.pt with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 11:31:40 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:31:30 +0000 Message-Id: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> X-Mailer: 62.28.61.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:58:23 -0000 Hello, I have been looking for some summer chool type crash course in C and/or = programming tools and have found that there are several interesting activit= ies and gatherings for developers. However, I am not (yet) a developer. I n= eed something for beginners. I am not sure that the Chemnitz linuxtag= e 2008 is for me, for it definately looks as if it is for experienced = programmers. Is there a place for beginner wannabe hackers who want a crash= -course in C, perl, glade or other programmming tools? Born to computers for MS-DOS (and, to a lesser extent, to VAX-VMS) , in = the early nineties, I have been phasing out Windows and using FreeBSD (and = others) for some time now. I have programmed with PASCAL in school (go gues= s why they thing it's pedagogic) and gw-BASIC after that. That was over 10 = years ago. Quite naturally, when I read about new developing tools like gla= de or dreamweaver I simply don't get the concept. I'm lost. As we Portugues= e say it, =C2=ABlike a donkey looking at a palace=C2=BB. The free software community offers lots of programs and projects in many= areas but there are others where freesoftware isn't yet present. That is t= he case of economics. In the logic of freesoftware I want make programs to = fill that vacuum. Well, some of it. What I want to do are economic model ba= sed simulators. I could do it in a spreadsheet, but I would rather make a n= ice application and make it available for everyone. For that, both competen= cies in the economics and computing areas are necessary. That brings me to = my three (free) wishes: 1. I wish there were free software programming crash courses for beginners= (beginners in programming) in every free software community event and gath= eting, providing and entry route for those who want to contribute for the a= vailability of free software in all areas of thought and all ciences and al= l activities and not just be passive users. It could be just at free softwa= re events or in association with universities through summer schools, for e= xample. 2. I wish there was a place where I could meet more people in my academic = and professional area who may also be interested in doing things and making= things happen. Diversity is important. 3. I wish there was a place for mentoring from programmers and experienced= free software people. Please notice that I am not demanding, I am willing to contribute to all= of my wishes. If You can help me or know someone that could help me let me know. Thanks, Rui Duarte in Portugal _________________________________________________________________ = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 12:36:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7404E16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F02613C45D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m17Ca85g067491; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Banning" , Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:37:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080204200151.GA16540@skytracker.ca> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:36:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: question on DSL signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:36:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Banning > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:02 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: question on DSL signal > > > I run a small FreeBSD server with a standard DSL line. I have it ping > the ISP every five seconds, and when it doesn't ping it logs the > results. > > > 3. I have used three different DSL modems, but the are all home > quality: an Alcatel Speed Touch, a Speedstream 5260, > and a Westell Wirespeed. Would spending more money on > another type of modem help? If so, what is recommended? > I work at an ISP and do this stuff for a living. Westell makes some very good DSL modems. The 2100 and the 35R515, 516, etc. series are great. These are dumb bridges, so your BSD system must speak PPP if thats what your ISP uses. (we don't, we use bridged mode) There's a program (wdiag 0.9) you can compile that will query the 36R51x series of modems for statistics. Here's an example from my own home DSL line plugged into my FreeBSD system: mail# pwd /usr/ports/distfiles/manual-build/wdiag/src mail# ./wstart mail# ./westell Uptime Counter: 24696500 Upstream SNR: 90 Upstream Power: 120 Upstream Attenuation: 315 Upstream Sync Rate: 768 Downstream SNR: 50 Downstream Power: 180 Downstream Attenuation: 535 Downstream Sync Rate: 1536 FEC Errors: 0 CRC Errors: 0 HEC Errors: 0 Signal Lost: 0 Frame Lost: 0 Tx Cell: 7071744 Rx Cells: 8183507 Dropped Cells: n/a Rx Ethernet: 60256998 Tx Ethernet: 55199128 Discarded Ethernet: 0 mail# ./wstop mail# Anyway, as the other poster said, your problem is copper. Your ISP has to just keep calling the phone company and dispatching a tech out there. Weekly if necessary. We had the same problem with one of our customers provisioned through Verizon. It went on for months and the customer was under the impression that the problem was the modem, so every time she had a problem she would call up and ask to have her modem exchanged. I must have put a dozen modems out there, and of course the returned ones tested fine. I knew the problem was wiring not the modem but the modem swap thing made her happy. (no big deal for us we just gave the modems to other customers) The problem with dispatching a tech was that she was never home and her MPOE was in a dog run, and she wasn't really willing to setup access for the phone techs to get to the MPOE. Finally one day a tree fell in the neighborhood and knocked down a phone pole. After Verizon repaired that, problem vanished. The tree was about 3 blocks from her house. For instances when the customer was willing to stick around to let the tech have access, it usually takes about 3 dispatches on the tough ones before they are fixed. The local phone company dispatcher is wise to the deal and when they see multiple repeat calls to the same site they will send out their experienced linemen. The greenhorn linemen can't troubleshoot DSL worth crap. Just keep on dispatching them. The tech guys at the CO can look at the DSLAM statistics and see the same thing that you can see if you query the modem stats, and if your copper is bad it can't be hidden in the stats. As for all the talk about the phone company not caring, that is baloney. The phone company is very interested in DSL and works to fix the problems. It is true that some linemen think DSL is a waste of their time and don't lift a finger to actually get in there and feel around for the line problems. But this isn't the corporate party line on DSL at any phone company, and if you get blown off by a lineman giving you a raft of crap like they can't fix it, call the ISP and the ISP can force escalation and get a manager in there who can get a different phone tech who knows what he's doing. This stuff isn't rocket science, frankly your problem is your ISP, unless of course your using the telephone company as the ISP also, in which case your not ever going to talk to anyone competent. Good luck with that. There's a reason people use 3rd party ISPs. 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( [87.116.146.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c22sm9574640ika.3.2008.02.07.04.39.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:39:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:39:04 +0100 From: Dragan Jovelic User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Strange apache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:03:40 -0000 Couple of days ago I moved one web (PHP) application to new server running FreeBSD 6.2, with apache 2.2.8 installed. Everything is fine, except I have in httpd access_log lot of requests like this: ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:43:58 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:43:59 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:44:00 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - They are appearing all the time (looks like one request every second). Output of netstat for connections from ::1 looks like this: # netstat -na | grep ::1 tcp6 0 0 ::1.57505 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.51750 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.53971 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.58272 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.58271 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.58270 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.58269 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT tcp6 0 0 ::1.58268 ::1.80 TIME_WAIT I would like to know why is this happening, what is and why sending this request. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:11:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4988116A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0373313C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-89-192.net-htp.de [89.182.89.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F67A44529 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:11:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:12:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802071412.26884.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Strange apache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:11:07 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 13:39:04 schrieb Dragan Jovelic: > Couple of days ago I moved one web (PHP) application to new server > running FreeBSD 6.2, with apache 2.2.8 installed. Everything is fine, > > except I have in httpd access_log lot of requests like this: > ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:43:58 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - > ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:43:59 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - > ::1 - - [06/Feb/2008:13:44:00 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - > > They are appearing all the time (looks like one request every second). > > That's a request from localhost to localhost (except that Apache is being connected to on the IPv6 localhost address and not on the IPv4 localhost of 127.0.0.1). Check whether you have some monitoring tool (which is the only thing I can think of that would query the server once a second) running on the server, which check whether Apache is up. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:40:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325C416A4A7 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [62.183.117.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D0D13C468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from bsam by kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JN6a1-000It6-54; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:14:17 +0300 To: Gary Kline References: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> <200802061844.29534.kline@thought.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:14:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200802061844.29534.kline@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:44:29 -0800") Message-ID: <98604822@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:40:40 -0000 On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:44:29 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > Can you > [[ or anyone else onlist ]] tell me of successes or snafus in building 2.3.1 > from src?? Yes, I do build openoffice.org (russian LANG) at my tinderbox and it fails rarely (may be once per ten times). WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:49:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A52916A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CA813C45D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1392821rnb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:49:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2REFnI1C++yZrCajefyfyASXXUqxUL+w3EZB1doU0Aw=; b=KeS2oHRxJJ5JPSszUsvx7o4cDmZQ/oOw0OoSwAKkTKyY8FZHTulwe2q+TDwngq0PdkkUoQJQRyA/YYjnHBEbKMADz/3fjUHACtebSxn9GGlRf4V+cTpyGzuorhw0RBnHhOY+fl3JPhd9LcL9wP+UIy7xCs/QSGYjiNztmdyXZdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=v28oEc8Y1Uvu8PwBqvmCx6Kl+eqO1alZB1Q50WmE+jGucj4Sm2YkQ/YZd9fXccrM/V97onYPpaF/RscBJCBCUXIkCcfgqYXhUL+ZGqYSJR8blHlqT+IXcITUBOYIGU3huUJvT0DrOEXdd44TfFu+OmLw2hviTdQ+vw6azixgePE= Received: by 10.150.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr4652558ybd.99.1202392188326; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 05:49:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802070549r71731883t9d606a2e62f67d4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:49:50 -0000 Hi, After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how can i do that.* ** *i want to do something like this in script :- * ** *if [$1 = "faststart"]; then* *start my executables* *elif * *stop my executables* *fi* ** *question is :-* ** *How to excute a script when system comes up and shuts down with differnt parameter.* ** *Thanks,* *navneet* On 2/6/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a script file, i want that script to be executed on system > > startup. > > > > I am doing this on Linux in following two steps : - > > > > 1. Copying the script to /etc/rc.d directory. > > 2. /sbin/chkconfig --add "scriptname" > > > > > > I want to achieve the same on FreeBSD > > > > chckconfig file is not present, documentation says i have to add it to > > rc.conf file. > > > > How can i add it to rc.conf file, is there any command? > > There have been a lot of suggestions here and the thread contains all the > valid information, but some people have given you deprecated advice. So > I'll > try to clarify what can be done and how it's meant to be done. > > 1. Your own scripts belong int /usr/local/etc/rc.d, if you update your > system > it will suggest to delete all custom scripts from /etc/rc.d, because it's > only > for scripts from the base system. Remember that path will not be set when > your > script is called at startup. The usual approach is to only use fully > qualified > filenames. > > 2. All executable scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are executed at startup > and > given the parameter start. Upon shutdown the parameter stop is given. The > name > of the script does not matter. > > 3. To this point you have all the functionality you asked for and there is > no > need for you to look further. However you are at liberty to instead build > a > compliant rc.d script, which brings you the advantages of controlling the > execute order by defining dependencies and being able to > activate/deactivate > scripts and additional parameters in the file /etc/rc.conf. > If you wish to exploit these advanced features it's a good way to look at > existing scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and read the rc(8) manual page. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:51:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9882616A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A22313C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wlan141116.mobiel.utwente.nl [130.89.141.116]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m17Dp6nt013180; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:51:08 +0100 Message-ID: <47AB0CCB.9030000@student.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:51:07 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VESA option in 6.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:51:19 -0000 Andreas Davour wrote: > I just tried to compile my kernel with 'options VESA' and 'device vga', > according to the instructions from 'man 4 vga'. > > When I did it with 6.2 it worked, but now 'make buildkernel' tells me > VESA is an unrecognized option. How come? I built a kernel with that for 6.3-RELEASE and it works just fine. That is to say, the kernel builds, installs, boots and runs. But VESA itself is another story because I still can't change the syscons resolution with vidcontrol and the screensavers don't work either. Perhaps you can send me your kernel config file? Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:59:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C00B16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2602913C4D5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17DvSZP094499 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:57:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m17DvRca094496 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:57:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:57:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: tmpfs on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:59:11 -0000 just to make sure - is it included in FreeBSD 7.0 ? can it be used in production. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 14:00:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2354A16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com (hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com [213.75.38.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B3413C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.84.104]) by hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:00:43 +0100 Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by cpsmtp-eml104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:00:42 +0100 Received: from Alex1.kruijff.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17E0g5F062065; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:00:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.kruijff.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m17E0ftk062058; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:00:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.kruijff.org: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:00:41 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: uq@clix.pt Message-ID: <20080207140041.GG1348@Alex1.kruijff.org> References: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2008 14:00:42.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3F8EE20:01C86991] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:00:45 -0000 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:31:30AM +0000, uq@clix.pt wrote: > 1. I wish there were free software programming crash courses for > beginners= (beginners in programming) in every free software > community event and gath= eting, providing and entry route for > those who want to contribute for the a= vailability of free > software in all areas of thought and all ciences and al= l > activities and not just be passive users. It could be just at free > softwa= re events or in association with universities through > summer schools, for e= xample. A open source website with tutorials and pointers would come in handy. This could be shared with the linux community. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. Howtos based on my personal use, including information about setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 14:45:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0754316A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdragan@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8FD13C45A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdragan@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1025373nfb.33 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:45:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6dY8ugWIVl987xd54DKRQomS+JhwJnPow7qSOGzgpy4=; b=MKhDfnP6vAZsPeZe5Yd6naMRnEa+foi2+dWRD+stiC+HNsGR2AuEkIVi59qZNyZkc1XEU+JOcilqEAb2nSFwHw3Ch5k6R2KkTLx2E/VjfGhVy/AI14Y8Z+6XL/PF32Ocy7hc//1dtrlj1oRIzfclmZoWJ2nnQ3+Mi5mEfBtcC7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TBg8InXPDO0p4ChXZpGEryCs+tKUusIPI9gTVdTTsA9NfhCJoso7eA0iR+Oll6TKed0682eWit3jLvBra2zWwNlpeSPDa9Oa2dwJxdaLlPbxj4Z2jNZttMnfuCYyNIjkRCXpcr24zJdFOVYvBCr4Qdrtf9ET0MYeqU3hHkqdnTY= Received: by 10.78.129.16 with SMTP id b16mr20345663hud.39.1202395542895; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.2.206? ( [87.116.146.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z33sm9809274ikz.0.2008.02.07.06.45.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AB1993.70507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:45:39 +0100 From: Dragan Jovelic User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> <200802071412.26884.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200802071412.26884.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange apache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:45:45 -0000 Thanks for quick answer. I understand it is from localhost, but can't figure out what it is. Only things running there are apache and mysql server. In processes I see nothing strange, sockstat gives that all opened sockets belong to www/httpd. I suspect this is something with apache, but can't find what. Any ideas? Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > That's a request from localhost to localhost (except that Apache is being > connected to on the IPv6 localhost address and not on the IPv4 localhost of > 127.0.0.1). Check whether you have some monitoring tool (which is the only > thing I can think of that would query the server once a second) running on > the server, which check whether Apache is up. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 14:49:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D516A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE6313C46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-89-192.net-htp.de [89.182.89.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50FBA44529 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:49:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:51:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> <200802071412.26884.wundram@beenic.net> <47AB1993.70507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB1993.70507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802071551.00599.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Strange apache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:49:42 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 15:45:39 schrieb Dragan Jovelic: > Thanks for quick answer. > I understand it is from localhost, but can't figure out what it is. Only > things running there are apache and mysql server. In processes I see > nothing strange, sockstat gives that all opened sockets belong to > www/httpd. I suspect this is something with apache, but can't find what. > Any ideas? Not me, at least if you don't post ps aux and relevant parts of what you changed in the apache configuration (which someone else is probably also going to want to see to help you diagnose this). ;-) -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:20:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DEB16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC2013C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17FKOLF038245 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:20:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:20:24 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost Thread-Index: AchpnPYVItszNaRrQGexlcjJ/qYZRg== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:20:27 -0000 Hello all I have a question regarding my time in a jail. I use ntp on the jailhost, but my jails are all one hour behind the host. Can someone tell me how to fix that! =20 Regards, Johan Hendriks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:22:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F9A16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from farnborough.darq.net (fab.darq.net [82.136.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8059313C465 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6E41D0AF; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:23:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at darq.net Received: from farnborough.darq.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (farnborough.darq.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id olj2Kn-vptos; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troop.darq.net (hackney.darq.net [78.86.112.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zygis@darq.net) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297221D05F; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:22:56 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47AB2244.8030508@darq.net> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:22:44 +0000 From: Jim Bow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johan Hendriks References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:22:44 -0000 Johan Hendriks wrote: > Hello all > > I have a question regarding my time in a jail. > > I use ntp on the jailhost, but my jails are all one hour behind the > host. > > Can someone tell me how to fix that! Try running 'tzsetup' in the jail and selecting the correct timezone there. JimBow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:25:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B4316A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EF513C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17F8u1M096516; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:08:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:08:54 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB7F@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: VESA option in 6.3? Thread-Index: AchpmVJM1yTWBkGxTKKjvbJNA/a2lwAAb51Q References: <47AB0CCB.9030000@student.utwente.nl> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Andreas Davour" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: VESA option in 6.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:25:04 -0000 >> Andreas Davour wrote: >> >>> I just tried to compile my kernel with 'options VESA' and 'device=20 >>> vga', according to the instructions from 'man 4 vga'. >>>=20 >>> When I did it with 6.2 it worked, but now 'make buildkernel' tells me=20 >>> VESA is an unrecognized option. How come? >> >> I built a kernel with that for 6.3-RELEASE and it works just fine.=20 >> That is to say, the kernel builds, installs, boots and runs. But VESA >> itself is another story because I still can't change the syscons=20 >> resolution with vidcontrol and the screensavers don't work either. >> >> Perhaps you can send me your kernel config file? >Sure, here it is (it is a bit verbose, since I have not deleted stuff): ># UPHEAVAL kernconf, based on GENERIC 6.2 >machine amd64 >cpu HAMMER >ident UPHEAVAL ....snip You are using amd64 now, there is no option VESA support for amd64. Regards, Johan Hendriks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:28:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B803316A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430AA13C4E9 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17FSL78075822; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:28:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {52ADEAF4-4E89-4836-981F-63DF435E5D66} X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:28:05 +0100 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: CIH7 EFdN GFUB GQ/c GcSB HSh+ I7Zl JeUa LtRn PX0p QTyp RgLj Ssyi TEo8 VXBQ VhCP; 2; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAagBpAG0AYgBvAHcAQABkAGEAcgBxAC4AbgBlAHQA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {52ADEAF4-4E89-4836-981F-63DF435E5D66}; agBvAGgAYQBuAEAAZABvAHUAYgBsAGUALQBsAC4AbgBsAA==; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:28:05 GMT; UgBFADoAIAB0AGkAbQBlACAAaQBuACAAagBhAGkAbAAgAG8AbgBlACAAaABvAHUAcgAgAGIAZQBoAGkAbgBkACAAdABoAGUAIABqAGEAaQBsAGgAbwBzAHQA Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB84@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost Thread-Index: AchpnZ09nWpdtjsNTbOjc66hw+R8XwAAEHyA References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> <47AB2244.8030508@darq.net> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Jim Bow" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:28:24 -0000 >> Hello all >>=20 >> I have a question regarding my time in a jail. >>=20 >> I use ntp on the jailhost, but my jails are all one hour behind the >> host. >>=20 >> Can someone tell me how to fix that! >Try running 'tzsetup' in the jail and selecting the correct timezone=20 >there. >JimBow Thanks that did the trick Can you tell me in which file the timezone is set. Regards Johan=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:34:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6016A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcin.koziuk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6402813C4D9 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcin.koziuk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1020396uge.37 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:34:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W12HbM2ovarj+YxAblpPosCO8x1ijTGxNlUTi8QdXRw=; b=BkVjRV/rFjlUu+43PTy2+Pgobl7+atP+ft8BO3gzWWKbBGjAPlc5G+PXJlynGr3kX1I6XShAcFtd6isso4cu1AApVVq7VYlSqdTJ92EScW6JGTs/3Trsu9JtTLTppPnk61FVXD28joQKV2MkAYSrX+SVwDgM5znINwX3XmK9SCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=KeRr+823FOmCKF2A4ndUrYQE6XjV2tRnTklhVVuieH7fVNT3b94VjQ+khVB9SqioLVOmtlSMb4vPXNJS8qrKHZf9xHvdotHh7B/EyFE4UEVObmykLMxw+0CquzZyRgrma4E9NUq2miTWnXgKrdNZBKCsGI3CDJYiaD6UhhcvEYM= Received: by 10.67.115.1 with SMTP id s1mr4114576ugm.74.1202396777345; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.151? ( [213.10.147.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k27sm2956192ugd.48.2008.02.07.07.06.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:06:15 -0800 (PST) From: Marcin Koziuk To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <39a9bdf10802070126p1b4047d6p171620276357231c@mail.gmail.com> References: <39a9bdf10802070126p1b4047d6p171620276357231c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:06:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1202396773.5819.16.camel@velera> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Question about freeBSD package. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:34:44 -0000 On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 10:26 +0100, Daniele Di Lorenzo wrote: > Dear FreeBSD, > > I am writting you to ask what are the license terms about bjorb package, > downloaded from freeBSD site. > Is it under BSD license?...is it possible the redistribution for commercial > purpose? > in different way, can you tell me who I can contact to get infomation about? > > Thanks in advance > Daniele Di Lorenzo This is the full license from the source tarball; Copyright (c) 1997-1999 Hitachi Microsoftware Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. Permission to use, copy, distribute this software for non-commerical purpose, and to use, copy this software for commerical purpose is hereby granted without fee provided that the following conditions are satisfied: 1. The above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and this permission notice and following disclaimer appear in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 2. Neither the name of Hitachi Microsoftware Systems, Inc. not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. 3. Redistribution of this software without modification is permitted if you don't charge a fee except for the physical act of transferring a copy. Redistribution of this software with modification for commerical purpose is not permitted. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY. HITACHI MICROSOFTWARE SYSTEMS, INC. DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL HITACHI MICROSOFTWARE SYSTEMS, INC. BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTUOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. Note that this is not the BSD license and does not allow commercial (commerical??) redistribution with modification. It's written by some Japanese guy, Kenkichi Mahara , you might as well ask him to fix his badly written license. - Marcin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 15:49:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF5E16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aline@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4606D13C45D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aline@riseup.net) Received: from petrel.riseup.net (petrel-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "petrel.riseup.net", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE4457010B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:28:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: aline@petrel.riseup.net) with ESMTP id E832E8A6 From: Aline de Freitas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:27:52 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1721141.9j7US5C8iF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200802071327.57104.aline@riseup.net> Subject: Re: tmpfs on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:49:40 -0000 --nextPart1721141.9j7US5C8iF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Em Thursday 07 February 2008 11:57:26 Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > just to make sure - is it included in FreeBSD 7.0 ? Yes, it is > can it be used in production. I'm running it in my workstation, and it looks pretty good... [aline@anderson-herzer:/usr/home/aline]$ cat /etc/fstab | grep tmpfs tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw 0 0 [aline@anderson-herzer:/usr/home/aline]$ df -ht tmpfs =46ilesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on tmpfs 1.7G 8.0K 1.7G 0% /tmp =2D-=20 Aline de Freitas - Chave p=FAblica: ID DE632016 / keys.indymedia.org gpg --keyserver keys.indymedia.org --recv-keys DE632016 --nextPart1721141.9j7US5C8iF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHqyN9hLRvs95jIBYRAgEAAJ44ckJhIy6O89fpsRDPPFsEG2/YGwCePOFv VwOBHJhuct+91TAjaxkMIrU= =DFFX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1721141.9j7US5C8iF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:02:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3F16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from anchor-internal-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-internal-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.56.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91CD13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from [194.217.90.11] (michaelb.eng.demon.net [194.217.90.11]) by anchor-internal-1.mail.demon.net with ESMTP id m17G25XG022784Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:02:05 GMT Message-ID: <47AB2B7C.5050001@urgle.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:04 +0000 From: Mike Bristow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20071220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johan Hendriks References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> <47AB2244.8030508@darq.net> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB84@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB84@w2003s01.double-l.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jim Bow Subject: Re: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:10 -0000 Johan Hendriks wrote: > Thanks that did the trick > Can you tell me in which file the timezone is set. /etc/localtime is a copy of the right zone from /usr/local/share/zoneinfo. It's a binary file, so don't cat it! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:09:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305C916A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF15913C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17G59Tv011750; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:05:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080207100402.02503758@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:07:04 -0600 To: Eugen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: OutBackDingo Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:09:08 -0000 At 08:24 PM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: >I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : > >- tried to set a static address as Derek indicated >- commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to "NO" >- the answer to Kevin's questions follow: > ># ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 >ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' > ># arp -a >? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] > ># ifconfig -a >dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 > inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active >lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > >ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give "Network is unreachable" > >I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the >router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working >again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. When it is connected directly to the router, what IP are you using then? Can you post your ifconfig -a output then, and when it is connected to the router. What router are you using? How do you have it set-up? What are the IP settings for the router? What are the DHCP settings? Can the router ping itself or other hosts? -Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:15:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A2E16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Carole.Macheret@ch.meggitt.com) Received: from gw.vibro-meter.com (gw.vibro-meter.com [62.2.232.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8466C13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Carole.Macheret@ch.meggitt.com) Received: from Vm-Fribourg-MTA by gw.vibro-meter.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:55:13 +0100 Message-Id: <47AB37DD.1F16.0013.0@ch.meggitt.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:55:02 +0100 From: "Carole Macheret" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: BCM5704 chip "initialization failed" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:15:33 -0000 Hello, The motherboard of my HP proliant DL360 G4p was changed and now I cannot see my network cards (BCM5704 netXtreme dual gigabit). I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 p5... Here is what I have in dmsg bge0: mem 0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff irq 25 at device 2.0 on pci2 bge0: Reserved 0x10000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfdef0000 bge0: firmware handshake timed out bge0: RX CPU self-diagnostics failed! bge0: chip initialization failed device_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 bge1: mem 0xfdee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 26 at device 2.1 on pci2 bge1: Reserved 0x10000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfdee0000 bge1: firmware handshake timed out bge1: RX CPU self-diagnostics failed! bge1: chip initialization failed device_attach: bge1 attach returned 6 here is what I have in pciconf -lv bge0@pci2:2:0: class=0x020000 card=0x164814e4 chip=0x164814e4 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'BCM5704 NetXtreme Dual Gigabit Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet bge1@pci2:2:1: class=0x020000 card=0x164814e4 chip=0x164814e4 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'BCM5704 NetXtreme Dual Gigabit Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet Does somebody have an idea about what is the problem and how to correct it? Thanks in advance Carole Macheret From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:17:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8845E16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AC613C45A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17GFiqC094970; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:15:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m17GFdqU094967; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:15:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:15:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Johan Hendriks In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> Message-ID: <20080207171522.S94906@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB82@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time in jail one hour behind the jailhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:17:36 -0000 > > I have a question regarding my time in a jail. > > I use ntp on the jailhost, but my jails are all one hour behind the > host. no. time is the same, but /etc/localtime is different > > Can someone tell me how to fix that! > > > > Regards, > > Johan Hendriks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:20:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8065016A4D5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4C913C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2008 11:20:13 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OJV08205; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Feb 2008 11:19:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 72352 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 16:19:59 -0000 Received: from aeryn.skepsi.net (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 16:19:59 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 72349 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:19:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:19:59 -0500 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080207161959.GF59566@sentinelchicken.net> References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A010208.47AB2FB9.00A7,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2007-11-16 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:20:13 -0000 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:07:34AM +0000, RW wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 > "Eli Scott" wrote: > > > I recently installed FreeBSD 7.0 RC-1 on my hobby system, > >.. > > performance seems to degrade whenever i'm compiling > > things (like, performing a buildworld, installing from ports, etc) > > which manifests itself as considerable lag in standard desktop > > operations, > > I've noticed this too, it always used to be the case that building > didn't make all that much difference to desktop use, but now it make a > severe difference. Nice helps, but it only makes the > problem intermittent. I've tried changing the scheduler to ULE, and > disabling SMP, but it didn't help. > > There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse > performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it > closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or > other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started > doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. > I've also noticed this. I thought it was because I used the -j4 flag when building world, but I just rebuilt my kernel last night without -j4 and had some of the same issues. This has been on both SCHED_ULE and SCHED_4FSB. I am running AMD64. ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:26:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFD816A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from filter1-tmobile.zx.nl (filter1-tmobile.zx.nl [194.187.76.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B7413C44B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filter1-tmobile.zx.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF777D41B2; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:26:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zx.nl Received: from filter1-tmobile.zx.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (filter1.zx.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10127) with ESMTP id IXqVCeOi34+y; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:26:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [84.241.208.69]) by filter1-tmobile.zx.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:26:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB3111.2080603@student.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:25:53 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johan Hendriks References: <47AB0CCB.9030000@student.utwente.nl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB7F@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DDB7F@w2003s01.double-l.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VESA option in 6.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:26:11 -0000 Johan Hendriks wrote: > You are using amd64 now, there is no option VESA support for amd64. Out of curiosity: is this going to be in 7.0, or at least in development for a later release? Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 16:31:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0732B16A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED4213C458 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so4230590waf.3 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:31:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OwT2PCwF4OfSjbQ5FeNJ9dfVuen2JwPWDg5yAoLr2AM=; b=caMk8yTL4glfIDDtIICPmHzuMHBjMgVOSWCtnRLOk8afe84PaLsx8lUeQ8/xwo2arVW2/wV4jbKoF6/WzrYuEg+rXHb9CKKztvKWQ0coIzPEHlgYmFQK1axFq1DUGgWFKTIarNZp2GKIQ3NQ/Z4ygQNLL0f5gdbcEX53ZF24M3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=micx6rQQv1VJDCKOHPDwrVFOatpCHjN28u7XokGudXtGgwda2c7ejtPf/miE2ipLcPO4cWe2897LmUzKWe/eOChAQ0ZeqPkR+UzqrsbinZRgOzZ2vl0Tsyi4WnQHdqgi9IE3p2XONqK3TT2BUXOUem4tDji1qLqMcLR9QPFfagY= Received: by 10.114.149.2 with SMTP id w2mr6194125wad.29.1202401886274; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.144.13 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87f7f4170802070831pf619d60tecd92e9a6411f912@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:31:26 -0500 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:31:28 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008 4:52 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > you can get billions storing everything and closely working with > government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. > > of course not officially, but when talking billions of $ such things, or > honesty, truth etc. turns to "who cares". > I did not think of the $ aspect. I was thinking more on a functional level. Data can be a very lucrative business... Maybe thats where Google makes all of its money. That makes it rather intriguing though. With that said, I do not consider any type of email a confidential communication medium. If someone wants to read your email; I'm sure, with enough hard work, they will. thanks for your insight, jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 17:29:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB32116A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7496013C4CC for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m17HPjMV024957; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:25:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m17HPi03024956; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:25:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:25:44 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erik Osterholm , Jonathan Franks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080207172544.GA24848@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47A9B6AB.30505@pixelhammer.com> <20080206152432.W3704@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207000706.GA19437@aleph.cepheid.org> <20080207014107.GA22094@aleph.cepheid.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080207014107.GA22094@aleph.cepheid.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:29:17 -0000 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 07:41:07PM -0600, Erik Osterholm wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:32:44PM -0500, Jonathan Franks wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Erik Osterholm wrote: > > > > ..... > > > > Then there's the issue of spam and spam blocking. Google does a great > > > > job of blocking spam. > > > > Really? I can't say that I've had the same experience. I'd say that 80 > > percent of what ends up in my inbox is unadulterated spam. > > I still use it for similar reasons as you, but I can't agree on this > > point. > > -Jonathan > > That's pretty interesting. I started keeping statistics on my spam > count becuase it was so rare. Since I started using Gmail (shortly > after they launched), the most I've gotten in a month is 4 spam > messages hitting my inbox. I assume that the reason I get more spam on my regular account than on my gmail account is that my regular account is pointed to by all the mailto: links in my web page and that my regular account is the one subscribed to all the various lists I am in. Those show up in archives in various places. Whereas I never give my gmail account to anything and rarely even give it to friends. In spite of that obscurity, my gmail account still gets a small amount of spam regularly. ////jerry > > Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:07:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309EC16A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbpr4ups@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBB13C4F3 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbpr4ups@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1525696rnb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:07:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=DP+ArECxX3Tvf2vnN4mkptk+SOiSjeQTqOithYQGSEQ=; b=CNAFl6aXok8VYruv2TRSFp/DSjWMIP7adWn+VloH3Rezi91ZQiUpk1bBMupmZAYgBwzQ3p9upXuRPMZTgD2GZryoiluiQW3na8Z5sCl4GTwwXyp+h8lKmTFPKNyriYZByI0YMNV3exH07EuLeg+FEXO3IH0D969eh2sW8n/2dxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ShbR60gDh3ZYXtjCpo9eanNSLCAGNB/XgjgHiBVZ/dy+6LJ9Q/Qm9KEVDBcBMj/OsdUytUBnb4FtxS96QMnl3cgFSYJ6fTJHHbDLGMPnepHWKEj/zP84eOjzrvyM+g4IODCjtZp6FDSSugneLi57twQwAVDlZat1+AZM48SrnMM= Received: by 10.150.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr4779651ybe.108.1202405922442; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.58.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:38:42 +0100 From: "fb-pr ups" To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: bge(4) for BCM5715S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:07:09 -0000 Miladies, Gentlemen, Is there any chance to get a working driver for Broadcom Ethernet BCM5715S in a near future (7.0)? Or later? If not, is there any clue to patch the existing driver which claims to support this controller but actually doesn't. The linux driver does, but FreeBSD and linux driver frameworks (and quality) are not closed enough to do the trick easily. A quick look at pieces of code seems to indicate that a BCM800x ground would be needed. But we miss any data sheet... Any information, even negative, is welcome. Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:07:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DC916A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798E13C469 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNB9a-0002OY-PE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:07:18 +0100 Message-ID: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:07:11 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A3FC675188BF95AFFD97EE5" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:07:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A3FC675188BF95AFFD97EE5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list, here's the situation: HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www (uid=3D1001, gid=3D80). The directory has the segid flag set: drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www HostClient mounts the exported directory on /share/www. HostClient doesn't know anything about gid 80. Now, on HostClient, user copies aFile to /share/www using the -p flag of cp(1). > cp -p aFile /share/www/ > ls -l -rw------- 1 user user 2981888 Feb 7 01:09 /www/aFile As shown, the setgid flag of /www hasn't worked. Now in man cp, I can read the following: "If the source file has its set-user-ID bit on and the user ID cannot be preserved, the set-user-ID bit is not preserved in the copy's permissions. If the source file has its set-group-ID bit on and the group ID cannot be preserved, the set-group-ID bit is not preserved in the copy's permissions. If the source file has both its set-user-ID and set-group-ID bits on, and either the user ID or group ID cannot be preserved, neither the set-user-ID nor set-group-ID bits are preserved in the copy's permissions." I cannot find anywhere information such as "If the /*destination*/ file directory has its set-group-ID bit on and the group-ID cannot be preserved, the set-group-ID bit is not preserved in the copy's permission= s." Assuming that this is the correct and expected behavior, why is it like this? Thank you, --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig7A3FC675188BF95AFFD97EE5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHq0jTwMJqmJVx944RCtXZAJ4ly0WsDGcy0i2LlXcCwzzFWE2KLgCgodop SBflmiZjcEP0M7wf+gdiJL0= =A2Ez -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7A3FC675188BF95AFFD97EE5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:12:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8936B16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from smtp3.versatel.nl (smtp3.versatel.nl [62.58.50.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D2F13C4F4 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 11117 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2008 18:11:31 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (HELO Rena.FStaals.net) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 7 Feb 2008 18:11:31 -0000 Message-ID: <47AB4985.7040607@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:10:13 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071224) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@fledge.watson.org References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> <20080206193916.GA20244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206144920.G12870@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20080206144920.G12870@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , FreeBSD Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:12:10 -0000 doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> Sounds like the system is spending a lot of time waiting for some >> resource - I don't know which one[s]. >> >> Have you perused the system logs? Can you be running out of memory >> or swap space? Is the system built with debugging turned on? >> >> I'm not sure what else to suggest. >> ////jerry >> > if you have not already done so turn on all.log (see etc/syslog.conf) > As suggested I turned on all.log and also captured the output from vmstat -i and top -S as 2 others suggested. From the all.log output I don't seem to see anything out of the ordinary if I compare it to a snapshot of all.log on my working environment but maybe I am looking for the wrong thing ? The same applies for the output of top -S. vmstat's output may be more interesting though. In both cases I the information was taken just after boot with a login on tty0 and 1 remote session. vmstat shows the amount of interrupts for my network interfaces are a lot higher with todays build compared to my working env from 3 weeks ago. There is one difference though: I did a rm -rf /usr/obj/* through ssh on the todays build. Could that be the reason for the difference or did I find the source of the problem ? info : all.log todays build : http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.2008.07.02.1140 working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.stable top -S output (links so the output is still properly formatted ) todays build: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top_stable vmstat -i on todays build: frank@Rena# cat /root/vmstat interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 610 2 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq12: psm0 6 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 151862 706 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 8 0 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 179565 835 cpu1: timer 169770 789 Total 501888 2334 frank@Rena# cat /root/vmstat_stable interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 130 1 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 3544 44 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 7 0 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 155701 1946 cpu1: timer 145928 1824 Total 305377 3817 -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:15:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B519616A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A97913C4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910702078724; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 6E6D02808B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-9cbecbb000001e9b-60-47ab4ab20c33 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 3D2C72808F; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:15:13 -0800 References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:15:14 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > here's the situation: > > HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www > (uid=1001, gid=80). The directory has the segid flag set: > > drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www Umm, that directory you show has the setuid bit set, not setgid! If you do a "chmod g+s www" you'll get "drwxr-sr-x" permissions. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:25:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895D016A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B06613C46E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eu9gu4@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 31so8071413agc.3 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:25:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=23v+95/xJ+V7E0ZBAiB9pvffrUWE73rvC+xIj8oW7s4=; b=P/jS+sQOqS/wqa0Dl2jIhqy0qQRFWN6ZkcVlCxXB1kB1yAEz/QVb6M1rR/QLMHODXQ5wCTTbNTA/vZ5xhsaW9SnblUYFANCn1PR596NDb8YW6LfTotrbf4CDRGXF8LHzFJSB/Lr2h1s35kcsRugGbG+vIi5xxmky37RSsiNp1RM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b2gPpv1xlS6+LK7KQfFYlL5m+7Z9kdK/pefaHPBy/fU9BMo+X/KENmKqe6T2/D0c7hD2qHz2hwMWxX61yIh9E1+69c/j4RDS/7vwJD4xqVjyXbB5iCaj8X9EkFG/asNv47uLcEN2c3L/TvfWTl5JYzxyJ3yGY7X2NnyPoOj/neQ= Received: by 10.150.96.10 with SMTP id t10mr201347ybb.1.1202408734218; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.13.19 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:25:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:25:34 -0600 From: Eugen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080207100402.02503758@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080207100402.02503758@mail.computinginnovations.com> Cc: OutBackDingo , Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:25:36 -0000 My feeling is that's something in my router that BSD doesn't like and Linux doesn't care (since it works). Instead of posting my custom kernel config, I decided that I will give it another two radical tries: - first, I'll compile a generic kernel - second, if the first attempt is unsuccessful, I will try a complete reinstall of FreeBSD, to get rid of all the configuration tweaks I made If it will not work after that, I will remove BSD from my system. I don't want to waste your time and mine dealing with this annoying issue anymore. Thanks a lot, Eugen On Feb 7, 2008 10:07 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: > > At 08:24 PM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: > > I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : > > - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated > - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to > "NO" > - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: > > # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 > ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' > > # arp -a > ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] > > # ifconfig -a > dc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 > inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give "Network is unreachable" > > I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the > router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working > again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. > When it is connected directly to the router, what IP are you using then? > Can you post your > ifconfig -a > output then, and when it is connected to the router. > > What router are you using? How do you have it set-up? What are the IP > settings for the router? What are the DHCP settings? Can the router ping > itself or other hosts? > > -Derek > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:26:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ADD16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF3E13C4FF for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNBS6-0006Jx-4b; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:26:26 +0100 Message-ID: <47AB4D4B.3070102@gahr.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:26:19 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5F68AA1BDFD7DEA86AA79608" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:26:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5F68AA1BDFD7DEA86AA79608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> here's the situation: >> >> HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www >> (uid=3D1001, gid=3D80). The directory has the segid flag set: >> >> drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www >=20 > Umm, that directory you show has the setuid bit set, not setgid! > If you do a "chmod g+s www" you'll get "drwxr-sr-x" permissions. >=20 :-( me idiot! Thanks! --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig5F68AA1BDFD7DEA86AA79608 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHq01PwMJqmJVx944RCrHCAKDdZXIM01tBCxn9vWyZaAx+S+GS1gCfavrT p6cr8RlErbfeCTGWSB6LbMA= =pB52 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5F68AA1BDFD7DEA86AA79608-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:36:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCBE16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF34713C4EB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17IYK0E095890; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:34:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m17IYEPL095887; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:34:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:34:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Eugen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080207193326.V95886@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A94275.608@daleco.biz> <6.0.0.22.2.20080206082722.02510c78@mail.computinginnovations.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080207100402.02503758@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: OutBackDingo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Help with router problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:36:41 -0000 > My feeling is that's something in my router that BSD doesn't like and > Linux doesn't care > (since it works). > > Instead of posting my custom kernel config, I decided that I will give > it another two radical tries: > - first, I'll compile a generic kernel > - second, if the first attempt is unsuccessful, I will try a complete > reinstall of FreeBSD, to > get rid of all the configuration tweaks I made > > If it will not work after that, I will remove BSD from my system. > I don't want to waste your time and mine dealing with this annoying > issue anymore. very good idea. don't waste yor time on freebsd if something else works well for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:42:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE26216A469 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270F013C4D9 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNBhM-0001c4-6g; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:42:12 +0100 Message-ID: <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:42:03 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> <47AB4D4B.3070102@gahr.ch> In-Reply-To: <47AB4D4B.3070102@gahr.ch> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC7CC30A7E32A07D805A9F200" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:42:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC7CC30A7E32A07D805A9F200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >>> here's the situation: >>> >>> HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www >>> (uid=3D1001, gid=3D80). The directory has the segid flag set: >>> >>> drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www >> Umm, that directory you show has the setuid bit set, not setgid! >> If you do a "chmod g+s www" you'll get "drwxr-sr-x" permissions. >> >=20 > :-( me idiot! Me idiot. But it doesn't still work as I expect: =46rom HostClient: > ls -al /share/ drwxr-sr-x 4 User www 512 Feb 7 19:23 www > touch /share/www/foo > ls -l /share/www/foo -rw-r----- 1 user www 0 Feb 7 19:39 /share/www/foo (group id works) > touch bar > ls -l bar -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 bar > mv bar /share/www/ > ls -l /share/www/bar -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 /share/www/bar ~~~~ Shouldn't it be www? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 I repeat myself.. --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enigC7CC30A7E32A07D805A9F200 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHq1EBwMJqmJVx944RCuu0AJwJdok2i6DCJFY6Dm2iZ71MVVYqNQCgvftK Yn1thmSaMz5zi8FmC+YnHjk= =pjfo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC7CC30A7E32A07D805A9F200-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:48:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD51B16A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D7E13C4D1 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay12.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B17720795B1; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay12.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 62F2B28086; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:10 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807134-a7d7cbb0000008b9-7c-47ab526a8778 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay12.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 3ED0B28083; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:48:09 -0800 References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> <47AB4D4B.3070102@gahr.ch> <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:48:10 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > From HostClient: > >> ls -al /share/ > drwxr-sr-x 4 User www 512 Feb 7 19:23 www > >> touch /share/www/foo >> ls -l /share/www/foo > -rw-r----- 1 user www 0 Feb 7 19:39 /share/www/foo > > (group id works) Right, this is the BSD setgid semantics one would expect. >> touch bar >> ls -l bar > -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 bar > >> mv bar /share/www/ >> ls -l /share/www/bar > -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 /share/www/bar > ~~~~ > Shouldn't it be www? Does the remote system used here implement the BSD semantics? If it does, I would expect this to work; if it doesn't, then no, I wouldn't expect it to work. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:50:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AF416A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FD813C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNBp1-0003gT-6Q; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: <47AB52D8.9010401@gahr.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:50:00 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> <47AB4D4B.3070102@gahr.ch> <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7CD24EC0A92174B1F43A1E9A" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:50:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7CD24EC0A92174B1F43A1E9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> From HostClient: >> >>> ls -al /share/ >> drwxr-sr-x 4 User www 512 Feb 7 19:23 www >> >>> touch /share/www/foo >>> ls -l /share/www/foo >> -rw-r----- 1 user www 0 Feb 7 19:39 /share/www/foo >> >> (group id works) >=20 > Right, this is the BSD setgid semantics one would expect. >=20 >>> touch bar >>> ls -l bar >> -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 bar >> >>> mv bar /share/www/ >>> ls -l /share/www/bar >> -rw-r----- 1 user user 0 Feb 7 19:40 /share/www/bar >> ~~~~ >> Shouldn't it be www? >=20 > Does the remote system used here implement the BSD semantics? If it > does, I would expect this to work; if it doesn't, then no, I wouldn't > expect it to work. >=20 Yes, it runs 6.3-RELEASE.. maybe it's NFS-related? --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig7CD24EC0A92174B1F43A1E9A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHq1LcwMJqmJVx944RClUpAJ4yDjdFfuYCmWVnGzlIof+9mW9+MgCfTReF 05YBil1Ezcy4BfTHrph8a2E= =VcWF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7CD24EC0A92174B1F43A1E9A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:54:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8F816A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD7513C4FB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1551741rnb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:54:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=RM03+6cR5w8X9D2odt+pWWpbVI9Q6Ti6XwifJVxEhTc=; b=IBN7vXHCfoW8k0UAtOmJqTL3rZ5PyKPMau63SHkusFQt9e7QSXs/ANMe12Q8u0WeHz+3E94ci8yEUtqR8M0XDRPSs5zlk5nqk3aVIYQRgR1aWriDEjvWPUGPatcJ51ntaLwNVmxEUzW4Mmuozqp9qhi1y71EjrHE4Q3O7PdNifk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=wzKU/6Q57xaWKg+WxlXOEa7EW7foV3tFa6iaPUzaVVTFXHpp0O+KeGLCJ2BugEWwgTErB6LBuRnFa0eIt2zPxJLi8CcmTVtrKNhOEssbAve3XD8CE2hyAxHfzA4r6sBXHuKi55kkATNtkQS8JbUjE2dEa1HPZnWc4RCfVj2focY= Received: by 10.142.188.4 with SMTP id l4mr168660wff.92.1202410482997; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:54:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:54:42 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: acf2e0af393c70f5 Subject: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:54:45 -0000 I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? I get 100MB of the last GB file. Most annoying. I know you usually want cp to fail if there's read errors, but this is one instance where you'd like it to skip and keep going - I assume that's what my dvd player does. These are not commercial disks, so I can't just go out and buy a new one, and I was too stupid to make backups, so I have a vested interest in a workaround. Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 18:59:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C4316A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D641413C457 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9B6216CF67; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 82BA428083; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-9bbeabb000001e9b-fc-47ab551a2430 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 6952028082; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <734C50DA-8D58-4D17-B182-31C2EB2CB485@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: stevefranks@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:59:37 -0800 References: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:59:39 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but > not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the > drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that > causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or > rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there > anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? Maybe try using dd conv=noerror to get a copy onto a hard drive or another disk? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9C816A56E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763A413C44B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so7301waf.3 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:00:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oqpEJiEOpNsaVuAehWv+XWMoqui0pvVv8t9DWbl+76Y=; b=n9hEY1AdXFqQY6MuPjUAgYMR4pzkuZyfxKkB3uq7mCt6IukH/mPQSEwl4TJ3ir68xql+s7GyzpAVO1E6ZUnqk5FxO4O+LElsrT7Pf5srGDm1zHazoG315skJgDCHvfcEYn4XuG7erb4BVx5KSuaPA5G12NBEzTNSnn7MXAOP7CM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c3S5qGEpqAKtJDCOrqNC6tX1Fyfo9MYSSVRHDjAz80LV76BP5lrinPmnLwmTx37v5c5C7X+EjgTKvQN+D5llyuFJd4vA0y6LL4gqWupQCwGdmShcle7KC4uQoQXGHXBhvDVriXJGcSQASaNbyrwXTWmkKZrH9M62+LCVXN4k1PI= Received: by 10.114.12.9 with SMTP id 9mr6265010wal.23.1202409235782; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mig.darq.net ( [87.194.127.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm583034nfh.26.2008.02.07.10.33.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:33:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:33:36 +0000 From: Rek Jed User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:00:11 -0000 Hey, I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every time I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two minutes (it cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any way that I can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait for nfs to timeout? This is how I build the boot loader: cd /usr/src/sys/boot sudo make clean sudo make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES sudo cp i386/pxeldr/pxeboot /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/pxeboot.0 sudo cp i386/boot0/boot0 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ sudo cp i386/boot2/boot1 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ sudo cp i386/boot2/boot2 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ sudo cp i386/mbr/mbr /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ This is my loader.conf: # loader.conf init_path="/stand/sysinstall" rootfs_load="YES" rootfs_name="/boot/mfsroot" rootfs_type="mfs_root" vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/md0c" autoboot_delay=0 And loader.rc: #loader.rc echo hopping the kernel... include /boot/loader.4th start Many thanks, Jedrek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:03:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F31A16A468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A156513C4D9 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s42so1556465rnb.13 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:03:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=/cMYAnherRwvxfJ4Cm3jPwDw05JRCtyp65uYV1YNML0=; b=NhjTlAEdqwl9niVsUPuSsuu0GiAjQaW4ysGmvJVRYBkB9diX+aN1LeDN74qdjvNm/DTaKYpTjl3ZtdJBB2maJUpR4//0SPTD4sIkL6z8KACDI8VyLnCwoQDfHX3zx9sV7RJDkn8fKTOQMgvElrj5z36rLoNXEukApHnPYe/a/AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=HGfEVY/Od3KtZ9pE+uC+p8DhCrcdLUwE8c74upC3HmGW/rYLHjU2H2ErkDLXIfE0F4yTNfYB863ld9C2FwHDcZiOpt5nXrp9VXDin6Vgfg6lTU51nAPvJL3TfNmvMbs9eDtcN2HCteavexiQbI9M6OMaTnQPP/lv9mrDqn/IUkg= Received: by 10.142.163.14 with SMTP id l14mr6470985wfe.230.1202411000788; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:03:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:03:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802071103w23617c20kcc70c2ce81f0f84f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:03:20 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <734C50DA-8D58-4D17-B182-31C2EB2CB485@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> <734C50DA-8D58-4D17-B182-31C2EB2CB485@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59434254cbd38610 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:23 -0000 Can I then mount the bin file as if it was the dvd, or how do I retrieve the actual filesystem at that point? Thanks, Steve On Feb 7, 2008 11:59 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > > I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but > > not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the > > drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that > > causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or > > rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there > > anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? > > Maybe try using dd conv=noerror to get a copy onto a hard drive or > another disk? > > -- > -Chuck > > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:12:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B34F16A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F329013C4EE for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92066216D7BB; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 7B0D628081; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a643ebb0000028a7-13-47ab58211f5c Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 6134E2807D; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:12:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <70294487-369C-4D92-BAC5-40D03597523A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: stevefranks@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802071103w23617c20kcc70c2ce81f0f84f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:12:33 -0800 References: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> <734C50DA-8D58-4D17-B182-31C2EB2CB485@mac.com> <539c60b90802071103w23617c20kcc70c2ce81f0f84f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:12:37 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > Can I then mount the bin file as if it was the dvd, or how do I > retrieve the actual filesystem at that point? Yes, something like: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f _file.bin_ -u 1 mount -t cd9660 /dev/md1 /mnt/cdrom -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:24:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA03A16A468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1539E13C474 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.1 anthesphoria.net m17JOZKA075468 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anthesphoria.net; s=phero; t=1202412281; bh=SWoYsjPvT07/nDimspG3sG/BGr0sUsdO62ZqFPu3P 9s=; l=2246; h=X-Bogosity:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:X-Face:X-Operating-System: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint:X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hOsSWGmQDVfcSw/fTP4jJSBp wBc+SN1jnPydCMWSZ0uwrUY/xyFIOi/wOF2CUt5U4kSU+tjCDlRjZ+EvBJ4bTbmTWfV 7fbXKj9if77FTv0RvzG77hGiGkrYhN04ea6awIPzkdgTkmE29NRlAD0SrMeszj+VCqA M0BgBpETLuMBs= Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-200-42.eunet.yu [213.198.200.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m17JOZKA075468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:24:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:25:55 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080207202555.054a63dd@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <200802061844.29534.kline@thought.org> References: <200802061520.53416.kline@thought.org> <20080207003718.3353777f@anthesphoria.net> <200802061844.29534.kline@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p9 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver: x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: is there a 2.3.x package for OO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:24:43 -0000 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogUklQRU1EMTYwDQoNCk9u IFdlZCwgNiBGZWIgMjAwOCAxODo0NDoyOSAtMDgwMA0KR2FyeSBLbGluZSA8a2xpbmVAdGhvdWdo dC5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOg0KIA0KPiBPbiBXZWRuZXNkYXkgMDYgRmVicnVhcnkgMjAwOCAxNTozNzox OCBOaWtvbGEgTGXEjWnEhyB3cm90ZToNCj4gPiBPbiBXZWQsIDYgRmViIDIwMDggMTU6MjA6NTMg LTA4MDANCj4gPg0KPiA+IEdhcnkgS2xpbmUgPGtsaW5lQHRob3VnaHQub3JnPiB3cm90ZToNCj4g PiA+IFRvIGN1dCBkb3duIG15IGVtYWlsIEkgdW5zdWInZCB0byB0aGUgT09vIG1haWxpbmcgbGlz dCwgc28gSSdsbA0KPiA+ID4gYXNrIGhlcmUgaWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBuZXcgcGFja2FnZSBvZiB0 aGUgbGF0ZXN0IG9yIG5lYXItbGF0ZXN0DQo+ID4gPiB0aGF0IEkgY2FuIHNldCBvZmYgYXQgbmln aHQgYW5kIGhhdmUgaXQgaW5zdGFsbGVkIGJ5IG1vcm5pbmcuDQo+ID4gPiBBbnkgZXhhY3QgVVJM J3Mgd291bGQgYmUgYSBncmVhdCBoZWxwLg0KPiA+DQo+ID4gSGkgR2FyeSwNCj4gPg0KPiA+IFRo ZSBiZXN0IHBsYWNlIGZvciB0aGUgbW9zdCByZWNlbnQgaW5mb3JtYXRpb246DQo+ID4NCj4gPiAg IGh0dHA6Ly9wb3J0aW5nLm9wZW5vZmZpY2Uub3JnL2ZyZWVic2QvDQo+ID4NCj4gPiBBIG5vdGU6 IGlmIHlvdSBwbGFuIHRvIGluc3RhbGwgT09vLTIuMy5YIHBhY2thZ2VzIGZyb20gZ29vZC1kYXku bmV0DQo+ID4gb24gNi5YLCB5b3UnbGwgcHJvYmFibHkgaGF2ZSB0byBpbnN0YWxsIGdjYyA+PSA0 LjIgeW91cnNlbGYuDQo+ID4NCj4gPiBCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMuDQo+IA0KPiBUaGFua3MgTmlrb2xh LiAgSSBqdXN0IGNoZWNrZWQgYW5kIGZvdW5kIHRoZSBsYXRlc3QgaXMgMi4zLjAgLS0gYW5kDQo+ IGZvciA2LngsIHdoaWxlIEknbSBydW5uaW5nIDcuMC1yY3guICAgKCpzaWdoKikNCg0KT29wcywg aXQgc2VlbXMgdGhhdCBGcmVlQlNEIHBvcnRlcnMgZm9yZ290IHRvIGFubm91bmNlIG5ldyBidWls ZHMuIEl0J3MNCm9idmlvdXNseSBiZXR0ZXIgdG8gbG9vayBkaXJlY3RseSBvbiBnb29kLWRheS5v cmcuLi4gVGhlcmUgYXJlDQpPT28tMi4zLjEgcGFja2FnZXMgZm9yIEZyZWVCU0QtNy4wL2FtZDY0 Og0KDQogIGZ0cDovL29vb3BhY2thZ2VzLmdvb2QtZGF5Lm5ldC9wdWIvT3Blbk9mZmljZS5vcmcv RnJlZUJTRC8NCg0KLSAtLSANCk5pa29sYSBMZcSNacSHID0g0J3QuNC60L7Qu9CwINCb0LXRh9C4 0ZsNCmZpbmdlcnByaW50IDogRkVGMyA2NkFGIEM5MEUgRURDMyBEODc4ICA3Q0RDIDk1NkQgRjRB QiBBMzc3IDFDOUINCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu dVBHIHYyLjAuNCAoRnJlZUJTRCkNCg0KaVFDVkF3VUJSNnRiVmZ6RFA5SzJDS0dZQVFPWXRnUUFv Wkh4a0FiZzZrTVlTUUxyVGhYN2RJdUg5a29HNGNKVw0Kd21wRXBVTFdzWXhpUis1Q0V0RktoOWxi WkdoN1ZXTnpITDZsZlRXeFhURDBMNzJEQVBLU3B2K3R2MWdVQmRZWg0KOGFoOGFockR1dkdTUkQ0 Q2g2VGhKMzF4cWlBNkYxMUNRLys3b2VTTHBYU3k0SnRoelh3N05DRktZOVpzRXhKYw0KSXBIZElN OXMzamM9DQo9dytLaQ0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:31:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973DE16A594 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492C113C45E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 43CE36187; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC07D6103 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id m17JVDAh022086 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:13 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:31:12 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080207193112.GA21998@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080207021819.GA6678@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080207021819.GA6678@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 i386 Cc: Subject: Re: mail checker for evo/kmail//mutt->IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:31:16 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:18:22PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Can anybody point me to a mailbox checker that works from a > "desktop" and watches (via network), the mail server? Until my > re-org, xbiff was sufficient. But no mo'. I've just started using mail/mail-notification, which follows the Open Desktop standards - so should work just fine with KDE/Gnome/XFCE etc. I'm using it to check my IMAP mailboxes. It supports SSL/TLS, and several different mailbox formats. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHq1yAixf5fBYiFmoRAoaNAJ9hWWxT8meZkkikMbdc56JBaQMMkACg34wx V55t8ebytRf9kN4N4dV7usU= =d3xZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:47:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423E916A473 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from havok173@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E864D13C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from havok173@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so6195391qbd.7 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:47:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FWjaEkSqKBp12b81NKyvT2SvH+DUMZc9HRELqrgnRPg=; b=CDSi9BBR+HZv0D+c8SCaimw5lJfMK/ZaEjK+A6Xlxab4Kv/9BQilx6ETylOaDGLhmLukbGMejqH10edImzPp3Aqywi0ClGt/0yYFKD4eKkOZe9SbGK+0rsdh4Md4kz7F/5XHJUlJVnzeIcYPad0RMKff6sX/z9I0U++CUvEwjHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pD4FKjuT3nuTRZFh6T/+yxuQw0qHe9OSwFFpQBSk+DWNU2oGOqDlKK3vcmWherl4nrUI6oIotKFkbos2HfrlFqZjGe2d+ZDIt3D5PYq0/tr/FWRRZ1UlMXJJTjXLjPMqXdTyGjT8J77N9toD9oiRrQS3YjNJtORPqF2GgmLJgj4= Received: by 10.140.135.20 with SMTP id i20mr7863127rvd.146.1202413654673; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.28.17 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:47:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <73b8a7e50802071147l6dca5bcdr9c64c4251e20186b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:47:34 -0800 From: "Eli Scott" To: "Jason Morgan" In-Reply-To: <20080207161959.GF59566@sentinelchicken.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080207161959.GF59566@sentinelchicken.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:47:36 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008 8:19 AM, Jason Morgan < jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:07:34AM +0000, RW wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:45:14 -0800 > > "Eli Scott" wrote: > > > > > I recently installed FreeBSD 7.0 RC-1 on my hobby system, > > >.. > > > performance seems to degrade whenever i'm compiling > > > things (like, performing a buildworld, installing from ports, etc) > > > which manifests itself as considerable lag in standard desktop > > > operations, > > > > I've noticed this too, it always used to be the case that building > > didn't make all that much difference to desktop use, but now it make a > > severe difference. Nice helps, but it only makes the > > problem intermittent. I've tried changing the scheduler to ULE, and > > disabling SMP, but it didn't help. > > > > There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse > > performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it > > closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or > > other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started > > doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. > > > > I've also noticed this. I thought it was because I used the -j4 flag > when building world, but I just rebuilt my kernel last night without > -j4 and had some of the same issues. This has been on both SCHED_ULE > and SCHED_4FSB. I am running AMD64. > > ~Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > RE: Schedulers, i've also used kernels with both schedulers on this machine and have noticed no difference in desktop performance. I remember an article on ONLAMP from a few years ago that talked about tuning the system for desktop use, i'll check it out and see if the tunables that are discussed there make any difference. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2740016A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from ex.volia.net (ex.volia.net [82.144.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC11913C467 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from em.volia.net ([82.144.192.9]) by ex.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNClS-000L9u-Bq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:30 +0200 Received: from intentionness-instrument.volia.net ([77.122.125.228] helo=[192.168.200.202]) by em.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNClS-00063l-4x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:30 +0200 Message-ID: <47AB6107.2070002@ngc.net.ua> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:31 +0200 From: Zinevich Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Volia-Original-IP: 77.122.125.228 Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:50:33 -0000 I confirm it. Seems to be loader bug. I`ve tried to compile it without nfs support at all... but it didn`t help. I`ve been searching for solution for about a week and found nothing. > Hey, > > I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly > works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted > sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every > time I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two > minutes (it cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any > way that I can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait > for nfs to timeout? > > This is how I build the boot loader: > > cd /usr/src/sys/boot > sudo make clean > sudo make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES > sudo cp i386/pxeldr/pxeboot /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/pxeboot.0 > sudo cp i386/boot0/boot0 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/boot2/boot1 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/boot2/boot2 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/mbr/mbr /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > > This is my loader.conf: > > # loader.conf > init_path="/stand/sysinstall" > rootfs_load="YES" > rootfs_name="/boot/mfsroot" > rootfs_type="mfs_root" > vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/md0c" > autoboot_delay=0 > > And loader.rc: > > #loader.rc > echo hopping the kernel... > include /boot/loader.4th > start > > > Many thanks, > > > Jedrek > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 19:53:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E6916A475 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29A513C4E5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0714E1CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:53:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:51:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> In-Reply-To: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072051.57901.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: uq@clix.pt Subject: Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:53:55 -0000 On Thursday 07 February 2008 12:31:30 uq@clix.pt wrote: > 1. I wish there were free software programming crash courses for > beginners=(beginners in programming) in every free software > community event and gath=eting, providing and entry route for > those who want to contribute for the a=vailability of free > software in all areas of thought and all ciences and al=l > activities and not just be passive users. It could be just at free > softwa=re events or in association with universities through > summer schools, for e=xample. http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/CE.html http://www.mindview.net/Books http://math.arizona.edu/~swig/documentation/pthreads/ http://www.intelligentedu.com/ Just some of my bookmarks. Also: ls -al /usr/share/doc/psd on a FreeBSD system. As for courses: http://www.oreillyschool.com/ -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:02:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F7916A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186D13C45A; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47AB63BD.8020905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:02:05 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aline de Freitas References: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802071327.57104.aline@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <200802071327.57104.aline@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmpfs on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:02:07 -0000 Aline de Freitas wrote: > Em Thursday 07 February 2008 11:57:26 Wojciech Puchar escreveu: >> just to make sure - is it included in FreeBSD 7.0 ? > > Yes, it is > >> can it be used in production. > > I'm running it in my workstation, and it looks pretty good... There are some issues but it works for most people. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:03:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555C416A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mx2.itu.dk (unknown [130.226.142.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4D413C46E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by mx2.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C7CF4806F; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:03:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB63EE.5030104@cederstrand.dk> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:02:54 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:03:33 -0000 Rek Jed wrote: > Hey, > > I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly > works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted > sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every time > I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two minutes (it > cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any way that I > can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait for nfs to > timeout? This should "Just Work", and I've had it work about half a year ago on 6.2. Which version are you compiling on? The tutorial I have handy[1] says to compile with: make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES I'm not sure if it makes a difference. Anyhow, the boot loader source looks like it can't cope with both TFTP and NFS at the same time, so there might be a bug in there after all. Erik [1] http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:09:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E616A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2213C455 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B671CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:09:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:09:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080206210732.GA1131@Alex1.kruijff.org> In-Reply-To: <20080206210732.GA1131@Alex1.kruijff.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072109.29170.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Nice for IO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:09:32 -0000 On Wednesday 06 February 2008 22:07:32 Alex de Kruijff wrote: > I'm looking for tool that limit the IO acces to a process similair as > what nice / idprio does with the CPU but only ten for IO. To some extent, limits(1) can do that. But not priority based, afaik. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:11:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E311416A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D5D13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 4097 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 14:10:56 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 14:10:56 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:09:35 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Importance: Normal Subject: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:11:04 -0000 Greetings, am trying to install apache 1.3, mysql, php on my freshly installed 6.3 box. Once I installed apache and mysql, I tried to install php. couldn't find mod_php4 in ports, so googled and found that I needed /usr/ports/lang/php4. Installed that without problem. Created file /usr/local/www/data/index.php with the following contents: PHP_TESTER When I use my browser and hit the server, I get a blank page with the title PHP_TESTER. what step did I miss ? any help greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:12:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE5616A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j@i19.se) Received: from null.bsnet.se (null.bsnet.se [193.11.176.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4368813C4DB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j@i19.se) Received: by null.bsnet.se (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6C6172C03A5; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:26:32 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on null.rsn.bth.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null.bsnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52B12C041A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:26:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from spaam.bsnet.se (spaam.bsnet.se [193.11.184.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by null.bsnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528D82C03A5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:26:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.11.184.216] (dual.bsnet.se [193.11.184.216]) by spaam.bsnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360B52A6887 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:27:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB5B5E.8010807@i19.se> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:26:22 +0100 From: Johan Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 on null.bsnet.se Subject: Monitor zfs disk space with rrdtool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:12:03 -0000 Hello. Any one who has nice graphs to monitor zfs disk space with rrdtool ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:17:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7291D16A46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson2@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADDC13C469 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson2@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-36-53.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.36.53]:51538) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDBy-0000qZ-3g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:17:56 +0100 From: tesolarisc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-FjnFdrDWPVJfpBNedP55" Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:19:26 +0100 Message-Id: <1202415566.7960.1.camel@localhost.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.36.53 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JNDBy-0000qZ-3g. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JNDBy-0000qZ-3g 9a71140d1e188c02c5cc40b00c6aa63b Subject: Re: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:17:57 -0000 --=-FjnFdrDWPVJfpBNedP55 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:09 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > When I use my browser and hit the server, I get a blank=20 > page with the title PHP_TESTER. >=20 > what step did I miss ? Did you add the following to your Apache configuration file: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps --=20 /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered -=20 ---------------------------------------------- =20 [novice about this? ~> visit: www.gnupg.org] --=-FjnFdrDWPVJfpBNedP55 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkerZ8kACgkQgWSfflYlIbzEzQCgiBhtSGSbapCvZ5gAXyayAUvd jgcAoOvF5HrKGA0nIosDi/yeHoB2DKwr =Q0wW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FjnFdrDWPVJfpBNedP55-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:21:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F9216A473 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from ex.volia.net (ex.volia.net [82.144.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC8313C46A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from em.volia.net ([82.144.192.9]) by ex.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDF3-000B0H-IQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:05 +0200 Received: from intentionness-instrument.volia.net ([77.122.125.228] helo=[192.168.200.202]) by em.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDF3-000MlD-BD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:05 +0200 Message-ID: <47AB6832.30107@ngc.net.ua> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:06 +0200 From: Zinevich Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB63EE.5030104@cederstrand.dk> In-Reply-To: <47AB63EE.5030104@cederstrand.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Volia-Original-IP: 77.122.125.228 Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:21:08 -0000 It does not work. I`ve tried. But as I found in forums and mailing lists it randomly helps sometimes. > > This should "Just Work", and I've had it work about half a year ago on > 6.2. Which version are you compiling on? > > The tutorial I have handy[1] says to compile with: > > make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES > > I'm not sure if it makes a difference. Anyhow, the boot loader source > looks like it can't cope with both TFTP and NFS at the same time, so > there might be a bug in there after all. > > Erik > > [1] http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/index.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:22:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA24016A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8375213C469 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B7C798130; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:22:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47AB6874.5000707@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:22:12 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:22:19 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but > not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the > drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that > causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or > rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there > anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? > I get 100MB of the last GB file. Most annoying. I know you usually > want cp to fail if there's read errors, but this is one instance where > you'd like it to skip and keep going - I assume that's what my dvd > player does. These are not commercial disks, so I can't just go out > and buy a new one, and I was too stupid to make backups, so I have a > vested interest in a workaround. > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It could still be hardware. I had similar symptoms with a recent new laptop. I had the DVD writer replaced under warranty with the same model and the engineer commented that it was a not uncommon problem, usually fixed by swapping the hardware. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:30:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411F916A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DA113C44B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 26654 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 14:30:04 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 14:30:04 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: "'tesolarisc'" , In-Reply-To: <1202415566.7960.1.camel@localhost.se> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:28:43 -0600 Message-ID: <85B9DCC73B75415BA171EC9A4C928FAB@Europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:30:12 -0000 Yes, but when I did an apachectl configtest, it barfed. Likewise apachectl start barfed. Remove the two lines you referred to, and it passes and starts. so, right now they are not in the httpd.conf file. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of tesolarisc Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:19 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP - install question On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:09 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > When I use my browser and hit the server, I get a blank > page with the title PHP_TESTER. > > what step did I miss ? Did you add the following to your Apache configuration file: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps -- /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered - ---------------------------------------------- [novice about this? ~> visit: www.gnupg.org] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:34:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA52F16A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F76513C45D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 31533 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 14:34:49 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 14:34:49 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: "'tesolarisc'" , In-Reply-To: <1202415566.7960.1.camel@localhost.se> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:33:28 -0600 Message-ID: <51BE2387478B4C729F119F750C1EEF09@Europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:34:56 -0000 >On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:09 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > When I use my browser and hit the server, I get a blank > page with the title PHP_TESTER. > > what step did I miss ? >> Did you add the following to your Apache configuration file: >> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php >> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps Well, crud. I typed in in three different times, and it didn't work. Tried again after your email (you know fourth times the charm) and it worked. I refuse to believe I made typos in the lines as I copied them. Oh well, who knows. It works now. thanks and sorry for the wasted bandwidth. -Darryl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:36:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C4016A468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson2@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6ED13C478 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson2@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-36-53.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.36.53]:60846) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNDTh-0003ya-9F; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:36:16 +0100 From: tesolarisc To: darryl@osborne-ind.com In-Reply-To: <85B9DCC73B75415BA171EC9A4C928FAB@Europa> References: <85B9DCC73B75415BA171EC9A4C928FAB@Europa> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8GT8m7OdBpNKt23zEyeV" Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:37:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1202416663.7960.5.camel@localhost.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.36.53 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JNDTh-0003ya-9F. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1JNDTh-0003ya-9F 8d9a7311e02622c49e19cc68376d6943 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:36:18 -0000 --=-8GT8m7OdBpNKt23zEyeV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:28 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > Yes, > but when I did an apachectl configtest, it barfed. > Likewise apachectl start barfed. Remove the two > lines you referred to, and it passes and starts. >=20 > so, right now they are not in the httpd.conf file. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of tesolarisc > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:19 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PHP - install question >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 14:09 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > > When I use my browser and hit the server, I get a blank=20 > > page with the title PHP_TESTER. > >=20 > > what step did I miss ? >=20 > Did you add the following to your Apache configuration file: >=20 > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps >=20 >=20 >=20 That was all I did on 6.2-Release to make it work. Sorry, I can't help you more...:-( --=20 /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered -=20 ---------------------------------------------- =20 [novice about this? ~> visit: www.gnupg.org] --=-8GT8m7OdBpNKt23zEyeV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkerbBIACgkQgWSfflYlIbx16wCfYDvhKpxqll+0eIWd8mCe2nK/ 0ScAnj4owqCty56mTEFL8nAJSELmSBS4 =nRJh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8GT8m7OdBpNKt23zEyeV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:39:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E2016A475 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mx2.itu.dk (unknown [130.226.142.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A40013C4F6 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by mx2.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27731F4806F; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:39:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB6C64.1050504@cederstrand.dk> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:39:00 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zinevich Denis References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB63EE.5030104@cederstrand.dk> <47AB6832.30107@ngc.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <47AB6832.30107@ngc.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:39:39 -0000 Zinevich Denis wrote: > It does not work. I`ve tried. But as I found in forums and mailing lists > it randomly helps sometimes. Please don't top-post. I have a comment in src/sys/boot/i386/loader/conf.c v1.26 (RELENG_7) saying: #if defined(LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT) && defined(LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT) #error "Cannot have both tftp and nfs support yet." #endif So at least the intent is that NFS and TFTP are mutually exclusive. Since the OP has both working at the same time, there's something wrong. Which version are you using, and which architecture? I'm not really able to help you debug further, so I suggest filing a PR if one doesn't exist already. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 20:54:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7823016A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84013C455 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F991CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:53:58 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:54:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072154.06464.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Jim Stapleton Subject: Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:54:10 -0000 Hi, first of all, /usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk is part of the FreeBSD system make files, not just the ports. So if you change something there, you will almost certainly break your buildworld and buildkernel. On Wednesday 06 February 2008 16:49:46 Jim Stapleton wrote: > 1) Initially, this library will actually build several sublibraries. > To keep my code neat, each library has it's own source directory. So you set SUBDIR. > However, I also want to make cross linking easier and less prone to > "oops, I forgot to add the library's directory to the lib path list" > issues, so under the source directory I made an 'objs' directory, > where I was manually putting the output. Is there a way to simply have > the final output files sent to that directory? Not sure exactly what you want to do, so I'll just explain the "right" way: The system make, will always look for ${.CURDIR}/../Makefile.inc and include that if it's present. This allows you to centralize common CFLAGS/LDADD/LDFLAGS variables in one file, providing your source tree isn't deeper then 2 levels (otherwise, simply do .include "${.CURDIR}/../../Makefile.inc" before .include ) Objects are put in OBJDIR. If you have not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in the environment, this will default to ${.CURDIR} and give you a warning. Providing the right libraries to compile /your/ program is /your/ responsibility. Here's an example: ./Makefile.inc: ====================================== .ifdef USING_LIBFOO LDFLAGS+=-L${.OBJDIR}/../libfoo CFLAGS+=-I${.CURDIR}/../include LDADD+=-lfoo .endif ./progfoo/Makefile: ====================================== SRCS=main.c foo.c PROG=progfoo USING_LIBFOO=yes .include Now the only problem you have, is making sure libfoo is built before progfoo, so: ./Makefile: ====================================== SUBDIR=libfoo progfoo .include -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:08:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8E316A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from necati83@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760DE13C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from necati83@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1115483nfb.33 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:08:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kIUK4U9BHfwDR5hRrKlhFFVoSosJ89l7Bh5mZlDH4Hc=; b=lQPlguX/g/6YurW1VuJMD4rrSsO2WXT31dqPxN/ObBWuCAKb2ugUxtNz52sJxBUGM+jSTrls43NEOOAfPxqXzf3h5rmahM6LyXQVvD7jtP5sBd1DKNJDuS+EKwFWmQJws9XVsK46tQ4FfvdS59oSD89exzEmAQNED/c/55/dZQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AI9H+zGlXdt2yX2o4b/bfxZeGUTgKEcdfkiU3D+SL07+NxSB/mAddcA4B9vj006cz8aNDQfoelW6C3YU+24PZhozrJWyeNVrmmzTu/SgukBPG5FzAsbjW5nV/KVAOeG6jq6d7qHmUFJnEU3BeSnk7LAXjcAmA/8xrI088sBN1Tk= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr21103684hud.48.1202416765569; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.123.8 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:39:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:39:25 +0200 From: "Necati Demir" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47AB63BD.8020905@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802071327.57104.aline@riseup.net> <47AB63BD.8020905@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: tmpfs on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:08:29 -0000 > > There are some issues but it works for most people. What kind of issues? -- Necati Demir http://demir.web.tr ndemir [~] demir.web.tr necati83 [~] gmail.com -------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:09:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AF916A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0013C4EA for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC3C1CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:09:06 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, darryl@osborne-ind.com Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:09:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <85B9DCC73B75415BA171EC9A4C928FAB@Europa> In-Reply-To: <85B9DCC73B75415BA171EC9A4C928FAB@Europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072209.14429.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: 'tesolarisc' Subject: Re: PHP - install question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:09:17 -0000 On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:28:43 Darryl Hoar wrote: > Yes, > but when I did an apachectl configtest, it barfed. Unlike in life, it's good to specify the contents of the barf in unix diagnostics and support requests :) A typo is easier spotted by someone else or the cause might be that the server needed a full restart rather then a reload to load shared libraries. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:21:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDAA16A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58BC13C45A; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47AB765F.5000406@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:21:35 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Necati Demir References: <20080207145454.L94495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802071327.57104.aline@riseup.net> <47AB63BD.8020905@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmpfs on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:21:40 -0000 Necati Demir wrote: >> There are some issues but it works for most people. > > > What kind of issues? I get an infinite loop when executing certain linux binaries from a tmpfs, and there might still be a panic condition. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:22:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2136D16A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A813C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=kestrel.milibyte.co.uk) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JNECt-0000UX-Qh; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:22:55 +0000 Received: by kestrel.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JNECs-0001A4-T0; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:22:55 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:22:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200802022112.28641.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072122.54629.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on kestrel.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 6a466a38ee450d43a033a986a0a84e5a Subject: Re: Nvidia graphics on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:22:58 -0000 On Saturday 02 February 2008, I wrote: > I'm contemplating building a system around an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ CPU. I'm > not into games and overclocking so a relatively low end motherboard with > integrated graphics should suffice. I've been looking at a few specs, many > of them use Nvidia chipsets and I understand that there isn't a Nvidia > graphics driver for FreeBSD on the AMD64 platform. Thanks to everybody who replied to my enquiry, your comments have helped to fill some gaps in my knowledge on this matter. It looks like the xorg driver should meet my 2D requirements quite well. I was under the impression that I would need to install the AMD64 version of FreeBSD for an Athlon 64 but I now understand that since I'll only have 1 or 2 GB of memory I might just as well use i386 in which case I'll have the choice of using either the xorg or Nvidia driver. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:30:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB3616A421 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from ex.volia.net (ex.volia.net [82.144.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690A513C474 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from link@ngc.net.ua) Received: from em.volia.net ([82.144.192.9]) by ex.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNEKc-0007HJ-E8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:30:54 +0200 Received: from intentionness-instrument.volia.net ([77.122.125.228] helo=[192.168.200.202]) by em.volia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNEKc-000GUm-4P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:30:54 +0200 Message-ID: <47AB788F.5070300@ngc.net.ua> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:30:55 +0200 From: Zinevich Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB63EE.5030104@cederstrand.dk> <47AB6832.30107@ngc.net.ua> <47AB6C64.1050504@cederstrand.dk> In-Reply-To: <47AB6C64.1050504@cederstrand.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Volia-Original-IP: 77.122.125.228 Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:30:56 -0000 I tried with LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT and LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT both enabled. Also I tried with nfs disabled and tftp enabled. All was made under 6.2 stable, i386 arch. Only once i`ve got it working without timeout, but I could not repeat this. I`ll be back to this question in about one or two month with 6.2 and amd64 arch, so may be I`ll discover something new. > Zinevich Denis wrote: >> It does not work. I`ve tried. But as I found in forums and mailing >> lists it randomly helps sometimes. > > Please don't top-post. I have a comment in > src/sys/boot/i386/loader/conf.c v1.26 (RELENG_7) saying: > > #if defined(LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT) && defined(LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT) > #error "Cannot have both tftp and nfs support yet." > #endif > > So at least the intent is that NFS and TFTP are mutually exclusive. > Since the OP has both working at the same time, there's something > wrong. Which version are you using, and which architecture? > > I'm not really able to help you debug further, so I suggest filing a > PR if one doesn't exist already. > > Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:37:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0776116A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A086A13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:219:b9ff:fe54:f04a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E3AC4001; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:37:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:36:53 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:37:03 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> disabling SMP, but it didn't help. >> >> There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse >> performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it >> closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or >> other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started >> doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. >> > does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? I think it's disk I/O: even doing a cvsup makes the desktop start lagging on my Athlon XP UP system. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:41:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE8316A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B39A13C469 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCAE405D17; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:41:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB7B22.9040204@bsdforen.de> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:41:54 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:41:59 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> disabling SMP, but it didn't help. >>> >>> There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse >>> performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it >>> closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or >>> other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started >>> doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. >>> >> does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? > > I think it's disk I/O: even doing a cvsup makes the desktop start > lagging on my Athlon XP UP system. Does setting debug.vfscache=0 make any difference? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:46:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C05416A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473CD13C4DD for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY104-W13 ([65.54.175.113]) by bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:45:58 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [62.150.49.97] From: Dead Line To: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:45:58 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2008 21:45:58.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[D34C70F0:01C869D2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: wireless dongle Howto. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:46:01 -0000 Hello Gurus, Im On 6-3-R fresh install, and I have 3Com wireless router. the configurations in the router as follow: Its WEP encryption 64-bit WEP, Key 1 is used: key: 2330XXXXXX On my FBSD i have tried to use DLINK dongle DWL-G132 but for sorry, im disappointed that this old cheap dongle is not supported yet.. So i switched to LightWave and fortunatly its supported and the driver for it showedup automatically as ural0 # ifconfig -aural0: flags=108843 mtu 1500 ether 00:08:a1:87:dc:71 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/1Mbps) status: no carrier ssid WatchingYou channel 13 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:104-bit txpowmax 100 bmiss 7 protmode CTS Now im trying to connect to my router ,, but all the attempts fails.. here is my /etc/rc.conf # ifconfig_ural0="DHCP"# ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou DHCP"#ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:3230xxxxxx DHCP"#ifconfig_ural0="authmode wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 3230xxxxxx DHCP"ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou authmode open wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:3230xxxxxx DHCP"# I tried all the hashed lines in the rc.conf but no luck always when i try to to start the device it gives up.. # /etc/rc.d/netif startural0: no link .............. giving up Please help.. How can I connect my wireless device to my router..im sure its rc.conf line Please advice.. THANK YOU. Marwan. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:51:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCD116A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAF513C4E7 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17LmpP3096819; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:48:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m17Lmk6v096816; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:48:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:48:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> Message-ID: <20080207224740.Y96796@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:51:07 -0000 >>> doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. >>> >> does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? > > I think it's disk I/O: even doing a cvsup makes the desktop start lagging on > my Athlon XP UP system. disk I/O scheduling must have changed. and i'm not sure if in good direction... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:08:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE8416A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2608E13C447 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.62]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512EA39822; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:53:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:53:03 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:08:35 -0000 Rek Jed wrote: > Hey, > > I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly > works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted > sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every time > I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two minutes (it > cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any way that I > can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait for nfs to > timeout? > > This is how I build the boot loader: > > cd /usr/src/sys/boot > sudo make clean > sudo make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES > sudo cp i386/pxeldr/pxeboot /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/pxeboot.0 > sudo cp i386/boot0/boot0 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/boot2/boot1 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/boot2/boot2 /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ > sudo cp i386/mbr/mbr /jumpstart/tftpd/boot/ Hi: I wrote the howto refered to in other reply, it's a while ago I played with this, but I have no reason to think that much has changed on the 6.x branch, I have just tried 7.x and build of the loader this way fails. As I understand the documentation, enabling TFTP disables NFS, they are exclusive. When building the loader make sure that your source tree is clean and /usr/obj is empty, or it won't work. I recall this puzzled me a long time until I found the trick. I don't think it is enough to do make clean. Second, I did # cd /usr/src/sys/boot # make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES ok, as said, it's a while ago I played with this, they may have introduced support for the usual way of stating options. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:12:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1EA16A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FB413C4E3 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081951CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:12:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:01:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86sl07y5fr.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> In-Reply-To: <86sl07y5fr.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072301.29261.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: =?iso-8859-15?q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= Subject: Re: Best practices for managing tweaked ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:12:28 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 05 February 2008 13:05:12 Micha=EBl Gr=FCnewald wrote: > I am seeking for a word in advice in how to automatically tweak some > applications, possibly making packages for them. > > > The current solution is: I have a post install shell script that plugs > my files into appropriate location. This works but there is two > drawbacks: You're almost there: =2D Create a file Makefile.local in the port you need a post-install shell= =20 script executed with contents: PKGINSTALL=3D/path/to/mycustomizations.sh This will then be packaged in packages as well. See pkg_create(1) and in particular -i option, as well as grep=20 _LATE_PKG_ARGS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk If you wanna do it cleaner, may want to wrap that in: =2Eif !defined(PKGINSTALL) && !exists(${PKGDIR}/pkg-install) =2E.. =2Eelse error: echo "Omg they killed kenny" /usr/bin/false =2Eendif So that it errors out, if the port starts providing a post-install script. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:29:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530F316A46B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F0213C45A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B8E1CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:29:22 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:29:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:29:33 -0000 On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > 100 times). If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. I usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just to rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop adding new stuff to the disk. Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then most people. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A17A16A41B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4DE13C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (relay8.neti.ee [88.196.174.139]) by HOT-Bounce1.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61057250A7 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:14:51 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from Relayhost2.neti.ee (Relayhost2 [88.196.174.142]) by MXR-8.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D25B13CEC5 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:14:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from originaal.kodu.lan (88-196-99-60-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [88.196.99.60]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9701F7D49 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:14:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47AB82D6.70309@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:14:46 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: USB HDD recommendations for FreeBSD 6.3/amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:32:39 -0000 Hello! I've been using two identical WD MyBook 500 GB HDDs as a 'backup media' for almost a year. With FreeBSD 6.2 things worked fairly well. There was only one problem - after attaching the drive, it took 10-11 minutes for the drive to become available as da0. In my specific situation this problem was not too disturbing. With 6.3, however, things are much worse. I'm experiencing really bad freezes when the several-gigabytes-big backup images are being transferred to the USB HDD. I've described the details in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120321, so I won't repeat them all here. I'll just say again that as the problem happens with two identical drives and WD's diagnostics utility has verified one of them to be OK, I don't believe it to be hardware failure. Also, problems started immediately after upgrading to 6.3. So, my current guess is that there is something about these drives that just doesn't sit well with FreeBSD 6.3. As I really do need to make backups, I'm willing to try another brand of HDD. So I hope to hear what kind of USB HDDs are you successfully using with FreeBSD 6.3. Thanks in advance, -- Toomas Aas ... The speed of time is one second per second. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:36:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAE616A418 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F66913C442 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so3906537fka.11 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:36:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MAy+nWiXsR+mc4YwMZ2FVPwWDTlZ0v5s37c/1K3k/0Y=; b=q2YpSDXkaEkYp9P2lcnRt8ct/jx/n/M2YvzWcef5wT/Ot3LyROWYQtk7wSznioxyUo4MAAdf2Ga1w9wBoHxIH3NETmNMQeL/s40cV9bQdOiXE5YzOZUqIpIyjH5rst+ohBO3BnIzaYEk4gi3D6hg4hZIK2w6yAIcQeZAu9aiP38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GcC7tQFboEKzs7/ES8XItaOnuRw0JOnkf/P3nM/X7EFL5QYawUTeGs/JJOfdMqqXvoDn9/awEaxkdEp+0FKIDwTGDPS+JBd2M/g8m9DnnXbGEIFNGWcfDm/tuvmZXI/TSY1AYT9g9dSaFyod/75LzYD/gCCYY024k4zaw3vANaY= Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr21547636buc.38.1202423763659; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [201.250.102.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm12778427mue.14.2008.02.07.14.36.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:36:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AB95DC.9080601@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:35:56 -0300 From: Oren Almog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080207221238.5385016A4C4@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080207221238.5385016A4C4@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 201, Issue 14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:36:06 -0000 I can actually sympathize with that. I am currently trying to understand some of the inner workings of the FreeBSD kernel but the lack of any design documents make it very challenging. And this is FreeBSD - whose documentation is held in high regard - most open source projects are very poor on inner workings documentation. > >> > 1. I wish there were free software programming crash courses for >> > beginners=(beginners in programming) in every free software >> > community event and gath=eting, providing and entry route for >> > those who want to contribute for the a=vailability of free >> > software in all areas of thought and all ciences and al=l >> > activities and not just be passive users. It could be just at free >> > softwa=re events or in association with universities through >> > summer schools, for e=xample. >> > > http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/CE.html > http://www.mindview.net/Books > http://math.arizona.edu/~swig/documentation/pthreads/ > http://www.intelligentedu.com/ > > Just some of my bookmarks. > Also: > ls -al /usr/share/doc/psd on a FreeBSD system. > > As for courses: > http://www.oreillyschool.com/ > -- Mel > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:39:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE31116A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9E513C458 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B041CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:39:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:39:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802072339.25702.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:39:28 -0000 On Tuesday 05 February 2008 02:27:50 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I am having problem with /usr/sbin/makemap hash on huge databases > under FreeBSD 5.5 and 6.3 while it is working on 4.11. > > By huge I mean around 380,000 lines in the /etc/mail/access file. > > After approximately 375,000 lines added into access.db I get: > > makemap: access.db: line 375135: key abcd.efgh: put error: Operation > not permitted Operation not permitted hints at a limit being hit, looking at when write(2) can fail, I'd guess: [EDQUOT] The user's quota of disk blocks on the file system containing the file has been exhausted. [EFBIG] An attempt was made to write a file that exceeds the process's file size limit or the maximum file size. But then again this can be a translated error by the makemap utility that has a totally different cause. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:41:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EADF16A41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236DE13C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m17McSPA032263; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:38:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m17McSk1032262; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:38:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:38:27 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mel Message-ID: <20080207223827.GA32246@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:41:54 -0000 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > > 100 times). > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. I > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just to > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop adding > new stuff to the disk. Agree. If it is seeing repeated errors, it is most likely about to die totally at any time. ////jerry > Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then > most people. > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 22:55:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC9516A420 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B057A13C468 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m17MqbDe097183; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:52:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m17MppQP097179; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:52:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:51:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Toomas Aas In-Reply-To: <47AB82D6.70309@raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: <20080207235031.D97168@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47AB82D6.70309@raad.tartu.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB HDD recommendations for FreeBSD 6.3/amd64 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:55:35 -0000 > problem - after attaching the drive, it took 10-11 minutes for the drive to > become available as da0. In my specific situation this problem was not too > disturbing. certainly there is something wrong. it takes 2-3 second at most if drive is already spinning. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120321, so I won't repeat them all > here. I'll just say again that as the problem happens with two identical > drives and WD's diagnostics utility has verified one of them to be OK, I > don't believe it to be hardware failure. Also, problems started immediately > after upgrading to 6.3. > willing to try another brand of HDD. So I hope to hear what kind of USB HDDs > are you successfully using with FreeBSD 6.3. > i use USB-IDE converted set (just converter+small power supply) got for ca 10$, noname. works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:02:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFF016A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D0613C461 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D231CC8B; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:02:39 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:02:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802080002.47040.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Dead Line Subject: Re: wireless dongle Howto. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:02:50 -0000 On Thursday 07 February 2008 22:45:58 Dead Line wrote: > Now im trying to connect to my router ,, but all the attempts fails.. > here is my /etc/rc.conf > > # ifconfig_ural0="DHCP"# ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou > DHCP"#ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey > 1:3230xxxxxx DHCP"#ifconfig_ural0="authmode wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey > 3230xxxxxx DHCP"ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou authmode open wepmode on > weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:3230xxxxxx DHCP"# > > I tried all the hashed lines in the rc.conf but no luck always when i try > to to start the device it gives up.. # /etc/rc.d/netif startural0: no link > .............. giving up It's a bit mangled, but the thing I see: - wepkey must start with 0x if given to ifconfig example: ifconfig_ural0="ssid WatchingYou wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0x3230xx DHCP" -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:11:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A90A16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DDB13C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2607335rvb.43 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eqHM34Oi36w+4oXUw4dYWGwXGY9ko+DyHGbi1VJvCEw=; b=XxprknHcT9wRHfaKQNxeHr6iV8A+2xTRZ78uKkR9UTstUU3OSua4EEoiDs/rGKegq6qmJXdngpY7p09UCX+eRpAXjzqIoCDAKJwyXvW+Q6Q/vfFtVHsBVwKeLwqxZ7/VawhfROxKOBcJ+rll+pRZANN6532qCiEXG0SQqusNNY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CO3xtabiLbMu9iFY0LtNs67VsipsjeS+5+fQJLcdnVfnlH6idpFlM5Uh274CZXgppScebtN5bwv7lC7evuqLOpRCxTGFFUOf58E4dSOMB+OIb6hRaqgKEQSzREf/ICvzYR1cyEcvpxMAmW1rqymCxnq0PNXNedVM0ss2sNc3VCs= Received: by 10.140.179.25 with SMTP id b25mr8014336rvf.186.1202425913436; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.198.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540802071511n396a02ap8fca378c2774e41f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:11:53 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20080207223827.GA32246@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080207223827.GA32246@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:11:54 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008 3:38 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer > this > > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the > log ( > > > > 100 times). > > > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. > I > > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just > to > > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop > adding > > new stuff to the disk. > > Agree. If it is seeing repeated errors, it is most likely about to > die totally at any time. > I suspected as much but being new to smartmon wanted to make sure. I was especially curious to find out what a "pending" sector was. I understand a sector, but the pending part was curious for me. I was talking with a guy at work that does some file system stuff and he told me that if SMART is giving you errors, it's not good. I have to admit, I wished something like this existed in '92 when I started as a service tech for a small, local computer company in upstate NY. It would have made life a lot easier. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:19:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF1016A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30A513C448 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-116-247-93.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.116.247.93]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m17NJMm2099091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:19:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <01D2D22B-D22E-408B-A454-980A659777CC@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <1E7F8770-4E0A-4B6A-842F-9B6D6321E5D7@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:19:22 -0800 References: <200802050127.m151Ro3r087662@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <1E7F8770-4E0A-4B6A-842F-9B6D6321E5D7@lafn.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/5732/Thu Feb 7 14:45:29 2008 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Problem with makemap and hash tables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:19:23 -0000 On Feb 4, 2008, at 18:08, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I am just under 300K lines in that map at present. While I have >> always wondered where hash was going to break, I hadn't found the >> limit yet. However, the time to build the hash table is extremely >> large with that many entries. I ran some tests a couple months ago >> using btree for the map type (subject was 'Map size'). I didn't >> test over 300K entries, but it sure built the maps a whole lot >> faster. You might try that and see if it builds or not. I just ran some tests using the BTREE method. I was able to build a database with 1,000,000 entries. It builds successfully and I can read all the entries in it. I believe that BTREE must also have a limit, but haven't found it yet. I doubt I will need to past a million records though so its now academic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB416A417 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBA813C455 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2923066fgg.35 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:33:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xsOLKC9cHCh5D4GfITTRPaY/M7nKy4V9QlcGhNx52vs=; b=JUVd7sCd3NAqCTk+SR+hIdscgyNg853BuAx0p8X7KzPaiJmDHFklMk+VRaqgh9GPVGNNuSQ4HEi5MVlIbLg2pBXKpgJo46RUohM2sXUyrRytiztZb1h2MMQV1EPsnjuhlh4TgWqRZ6e+GXPwoFtjrVTxih2hOOtI6Cl+LR8ty1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QQIOs6fJmCAo+8AxPGVLHYHx0x3nKIoPpmaioa4LEWgSAvRoCa8EcIKDaBhiBQpkNpq3dLaud3YRyEb7rTm0M+aXTF3wn5ilM+SFMpcBN8Q3RukvPZQiNYrbeCoJkU4EPbtYNmXM5G9khwzD8SjhLVnSpYAakcbriWn/QYgUnVE= Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr11005922fgb.57.1202427221787; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mig.darq.net ( [78.86.112.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm2340708fgg.6.2008.02.07.15.33.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:33:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:33:22 +0000 From: Rek Jed User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:33:44 -0000 Hi Erik, > I wrote the howto refered to in other reply, it's a while ago I played > with this, but I have no reason to think that much has changed on the > 6.x branch, I have just tried 7.x and build of the loader this way fails. I tried building it on 7.0-PRERELEASE and it builds fine for me. Haven't tested if it works yet, but will do in a moment. > > When building the loader make sure that your source tree is clean and > /usr/obj is empty, or it won't work. I recall this puzzled me a long > time until I found the trick. I don't think it is enough to do make > clean. Yes, I made sure that /usr/obj was empty. > > # cd /usr/src/sys/boot > # make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES Originally I was doing this on 6.2. I tried it again on a freshly installed 6.3-RELEASE just now. I made sure /usr/obj was empty and build pxeboot using the above method, then copied it over to my jumpstart server. Unfortunately this didn't work. It sat there for a bit, then trowed "NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60" as usual and then sat there forever (it never fetched the kernel). I also tried building it like that: # cd /usr/src/sys/boot # make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT=NO This builds fine. I copied it to my jumpstart server and it booted from tftp after approx 2 min. pause and the "NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60". Can anyone tell me whats the difference between -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES and LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES? I've been playing with thinbsd (http://www.thinbsd.org/) a while back. It also boots from tftp without nfs and their boot loader works fine (boots straight away). Latest thinbsd is based on 5.4 so maybe it broke in 6.x? For a workaround I used pxeboot from thinbsd with my 6.3 jumpstart setup and it seems to work fine. However this is quite dirty. Cheers, Jedrek P.S Thanks for the howto Erik, I found it really helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 00:09:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB2D16A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C227F13C45E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m180922g093482 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:09:13 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:09:06 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: >> Norberto Meijome wrote: >>> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? >> One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way >> you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance >> would be way better than disc. > > Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up by > RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to access > RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by swap, in > which case you have a chicken and egg problem. Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 00:29:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF7016A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com [69.89.22.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7167913C459 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 28246 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2008 00:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 00:29:08 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNH76-0000be-3b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:29:08 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:29:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:29:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080208002907.GB44114@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87f7f4170802070831pf619d60tecd92e9a6411f912@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802070831pf619d60tecd92e9a6411f912@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:29:09 -0000 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:31:26AM -0500, Jeremy Gransden wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 4:52 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > you can get billions storing everything and closely working with > > government, and even privates - selling the data raw or processed. > > > > of course not officially, but when talking billions of $ such things, or > > honesty, truth etc. turns to "who cares". > > > > I did not think of the $ aspect. I was thinking more on a functional > level. Data can be a very lucrative business... Maybe thats where > Google makes all of its money. That makes it rather intriguing though. > > With that said, I do not consider any type of email a confidential > communication medium. If someone wants to read your email; I'm sure, > with enough hard work, they will. That's what encryption is for -- privacy. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 01:02:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0284116A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B911913C45B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so5212772pyb.10 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:02:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=HVGLaaoefqxjwq8RGH1BsG2HqSDvRPHcDCOJgCugNiI=; b=iUbZRlVmc75pfpaTy1EunTQZdJX2D8k6iPmfbQ4UILARWv7XkOllU4vC+kOkwn3B1DEMvFblnfS9wH/SBuU3lWmlgf+lxAfbbt5DKN4FUTE6LtZ3sU4pMx0VQGHSKj1e7DIX247tW+EmJP+tIwOL/ZUxSYLMkddtlvvfzznKyE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZpS6KWLv1IZKLudD7fmYLniRuR6dZqC2W3CfOAYXypdM+6kDHykuXFpu7JouhWirPoi+P5Gm0t2vXYuLBhYeNmT5GsdgIZ0WGCXTTLxJs++K26b2tCKzldxUP3DyUlTmcJlmAcVAkOEONDV7zheRTJKFnZcCUP3VvbTlu7C7dF4= Received: by 10.64.241.3 with SMTP id o3mr23267094qbh.16.1202432550666; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.16 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:02:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82f916c90802071702rc7c127dt19ddda90e262935e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:02:30 +0000 From: "Kemian Dang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: "ifconfig ndis0 scan" halt on root and nothing on normal user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:02:37 -0000 Hi, there I have a broadcom wireless card on laptop and want to use it. I installed the driver with "ndisgen" and after reboot, everything looks OK, ifconfig shows the ndis is working: ndis0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1a:73:8e:79:d8 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier authmode OPEN privacy OFF bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 protmode CTS bintval 0 Then I changed to root, and run: ifconfig ndis0 up ifconfig ndis0 scan When I was doing the scan, the command halt and no output. Then I use a normal user to do the same thing. It run in very fast and give blank output. Anybody have any idea on this things? Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 01:48:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867D516A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A7813C457 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 01:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVW009DBD17LSBF@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:48:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:48:37 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <47A93C6C.8050003@otenet.gr> To: Manolis Kiagias Message-id: <200802072048.37967.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Organization: Home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <47A93C6C.8050003@otenet.gr> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:48:48 -0000 On Tuesday 05 February 2008 23:49:48 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 01:39:07 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> E. J. Cerejo wrote: > >>> Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >>>> Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: > >>>>> E. J. Cerejo wrote: > >>>>>> Is there a tutorial on how to configure compiz fusion on FBSD 6.3 / > >>>>>> gnome or fluxbox. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Use the port/package. > >>>>> 2. Every now and then I see messages fly by in which you can find > >>>>> exactly which flags/options to use. > >>>>> 3. You are right, there should be documentation... > >>>>> > >>>>> Alphons > >>>>> > >>>>> P.S. I found this stashed in a folder meant for future reference: > >>>>>> Assuming you have already setup you X server for composite, to run > >>>>>> compiz-fusion enter these commands: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (as normal user) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-dekstop-hints ccp & > >>>>>> emerald --replace & > >>>>> > >>>>> Credits to Manolis Kiagias :-) > >>>> > >>>> Never thought this was such a sought-after feature :) > >>>> > >>>> Anyway, here is a quick article I just wrote: > >>>> > >>>> http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article > >>>>.h tml > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Your feedback is welcome. > >>>> > >>>> Manolis > >>> > >>> I have it working now but there are two issues that I seem not to be > >>> able to solve. First compiz will start when x starts but emerald > >>> won't start and I get no window borders and can't move them. Solution > >>> is to open the terminal window and run emerald --replace &. Second > >>> issue is with compiz, I open ccsm to configure my 3d effects but they > >>> won't get saved, it will let me select them or unselect them but once > >>> I close ccsm and run it again every change is gone and the defaults > >>> are back. Any Ideas? Do the users have to be members of a special > >>> group? > >> > >> I run compiz by hand, I don't need it on all the time. I will > >> investigate these and get back to you. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > > I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us to > > run these commands as a regular user: > > > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp > > emerald --replace > > > > I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each of > > these commands, which will look like this: > > > > compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & > > emerald --replace & > > > > once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts > > functioning correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts > > compiz automatically and you will get all the window borders and you are > > able to save the settings using ccsm. > > > > Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these commands, > > compiz will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let you save any > > settings, another words if you run ccsm it won't let you select or > > unselect any plugins. Compiz command might be a little different for > > gnome. > > Gnome will also complain if you run these commands without > > installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, once you install this > > it will stop complainning. I will try to find out why I can't use ccsm > > and if I find out I will let you know. > > I don't know about KDE, but I am using compiz-fusion (manually) in gnome > without having installed ubuntulooks. > Thanks for your investigation and feedback. If you come up with a > complete set of settings, I will update the article. The only way to fix gnome and get the settings to save was to delete the user and recreate it again. I found out what causes compiz to act weird like this is when you try to run compiz with different options than the ones you gave me. If that happens than you have to recreate the user account. Deleting the .config directory is not enough, don't know why. Do not forget to update your article by adding the "&" at the end of the compiz and emerald commands. If they get run without "&" sign at the end, compiz will start acting weird on you. Thanks for your help, it's working very well now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 02:16:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6902816A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 02:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE36F13C459 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 02:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2953118fgg.35 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:16:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aPsaf2DLMVwE9tSJb30nEC0UBTtCuwl1E2KShjHyahs=; b=c1EBNt6lvDWTtr1XjfNMdTx4CLJyRAzP19OAwfC6XR1sqVm/oAwDw7wU1baU6Xq/hmt1xVUsyS5GcWKfml08wWyOOhR7QdbIm4mLQupL+74LnM8ARr3CjBiHpqbD0sGS2p7gVtZ8NcrV3EgSfotLamFxNVJSVUJJYMpdPf8K6eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SutO8ND8aJE3OaQSqCNZt17DNZv2+1miTG9QtkLuopS9epcMb+zep9AFj+35XlnRqoorNYEXMfbzcDk4geCcJd8YxQYDBa6EKh6NAz1jwC1X+2CW73x6mXpWskCtwQde1dklz4mJ3T/lW9/brERbOqvc+M6G6yO5U7Y5emotrc8= Received: by 10.86.91.12 with SMTP id o12mr11123505fgb.72.1202436968411; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mig.darq.net ( [78.86.112.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm16985087fgb.0.2008.02.07.18.16.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:16:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47ABBB56.7010303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:15:50 +0000 From: Rek Jed User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:16:10 -0000 > I tried building it on 7.0-PRERELEASE and it builds fine for me. > Haven't tested if it works yet, but will do in a moment. I can confirm that the same thing happens on 7. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 03:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F2016A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6165113C4DB for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m183HHoM076263; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Andrew Falanga" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:18:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:17:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:17:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew = Falanga > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:15 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages >=20 >=20 > HI, >=20 > I just installed smartmontools from ports on my churches system=20 > and I think=20 > I'm glad I did. However, not being completely familiar with it, I'd = like=20 > some help with the messages (and errors) that have been=20 > discovered thus far=20 > (since I installed it on Saturday, yikes!). >=20 > First was this, and it's repeated in the log /var/log/messages = frequently: >=20 > Feb 4 18:19:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0, 12 Currently=20 > unreadable (pending) sectors >=20 >=20 > Even though this entry comes from today, this was e-mailed to me=20 > within hours=20 > of enabling smartd on Saturday. I understand what sectors are and I = know=20 > what unreadable is. I was wondering what "pending" meant. >=20 > Then, yesterday I was e-mailed this one: >=20 > Feb 3 02:49:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0,=20 > Self-Test Log error=20 > count increased from 0 to 1 >=20 > Using smartctl I found that option "-l" with the argument=20 > "selftest" would=20 > give me more information. This is what I found: >=20 > whitbap# smartctl -l selftest /dev/ad0 > smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.2] Copyright (C)=20 > 2002-6 Bruce=20 > Allen > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ >=20 > =3D=3D=3D START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION =3D=3D=3D > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_Description Status Remaining =20 > LifeTime(hours) =20 > LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% =20 > 60397 =20 > 67413 > # 2 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% =20 > 60373 =20 > 67413 >=20 >=20 > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer = this=20 > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the=20 > unreadable=20 > sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( >=20 > 100 times). >=20 It means replace the drive immediately. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 03:53:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE0E16A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anujhere@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C3D13C465 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anujhere@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so3137736wxd.7 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:53:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=RCQ3IAiia1LWVPTkmvyCMD2Y9egMWq7XkSQ5PuI70Aw=; b=gdVe1iGjd29v4L1BAv9LlT/aYFiAixlPS/9WbRCyF8aVdoeYKclkyVhQZfL2MhlP1jKDK+0PtUGCNvpYUBeYY5NAVVc4dSSqnjM60zjucpaS06qF4NxO61AGDReA1gyYxUctR9npt3oexvzgn35OSzOWYzbciyimtx04nMvPL6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XBUYrHe75gDiRoG9gUGgy+QHHhYB6uYzEb4Pa/dqyqRhG3XhgGi16purUkqne2qwpX6mHJM3ZDa2GK3zd5MPFLgQZ+MqRUpOqwpjzYwwqqjMnJWlLJKd9afXAjMSrYM7rd2+7qfrDP9vdvUKJqfALal1EKmsWAf33CUhxGgVRFM= Received: by 10.150.204.19 with SMTP id b19mr5046028ybg.35.1202441362931; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.57.11 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:59:22 +0530 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=85=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=9C_Anuj_Singh?=" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: A non FreeBSD question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:53:43 -0000 Hi, It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time goes with computers over freebsd/linux. If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? 1.From a normal persons point of view. 2.From the point of view of spouse. Thanks. :-) Anuj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 05:03:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14B916A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D6913C46A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=34351 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNLOn-00008m-Sl for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:03:41 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4874 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNLOn-0006QX-5S for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:03:41 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AB13987B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:03:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ABE2AB.9060705@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:03:39 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080207-0, 02/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: Subject: Re: A non FreeBSD question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0000 =E0=A4=85=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=9C Anuj Singh wrote: > Hi, > It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what > people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause > i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time > goes with computers over freebsd/linux. >=20 > If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking > the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not > to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? In the bathroom playing Nethack on his FreeBSD laptop > 1.From a normal persons point of view. > 2.From the point of view of spouse. Give the guy some trust or divorce him... Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 06:59:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7E416A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC27213C4E7 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-84879.home.otenet.gr [87.203.84.221]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m186x1Kg005685; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:59:01 +0200 Message-ID: <47ABFDB4.6060705@otenet.gr> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:59:00 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47A3A689.9060705@optonline.net> <200802052201.58355.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <47A93C6C.8050003@otenet.gr> <200802072048.37967.ejcerejo@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <200802072048.37967.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiz-fusion article X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:59:04 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: >>> >>> I found what the problem was under KDE, in your tutorial you tell us to >>> run these commands as a regular user: >>> >>> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp >>> emerald --replace >>> >>> I found that both of these commands need a & sign at the end of each of >>> these commands, which will look like this: >>> >>> compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp & >>> emerald --replace & >>> >>> once you run them like this, KDE will stop acting weird and starts >>> functioning correctly. Now when you restart kde it no longer starts >>> compiz automatically and you will get all the window borders and you are >>> able to save the settings using ccsm. >>> >>> Which is not the case when running gnome. Once you run these commands, >>> compiz will work normally just like in KDE but it won't let you save any >>> settings, another words if you run ccsm it won't let you select or >>> unselect any plugins. Compiz command might be a little different for >>> gnome. >>> Gnome will also complain if you run these commands without >>> installing /usr/ports/x11-themes/ubuntulooks first, once you install this >>> it will stop complainning. I will try to find out why I can't use ccsm >>> and if I find out I will let you know. >>> >> I don't know about KDE, but I am using compiz-fusion (manually) in gnome >> without having installed ubuntulooks. >> Thanks for your investigation and feedback. If you come up with a >> complete set of settings, I will update the article. >> > > The only way to fix gnome and get the settings to save was to delete the user > and recreate it again. I found out what causes compiz to act weird like this > is when you try to run compiz with different options than the ones you gave > me. If that happens than you have to recreate the user account. Deleting > the .config directory is not enough, don't know why. > > Do not forget to update your article by adding the "&" at the end of the > compiz and emerald commands. If they get run without "&" sign at the end, > compiz will start acting weird on you. > > Thanks for your help, it's working very well now. > Thanks, I just updated the article, you may want to have a look at it again. Quick link here: http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/compiz-fusion/article.html I added the "&" and the script for GNOME. I found out compiz-fusion saves setting in gconf, if you have it compiled with "gconf support" (like I did). My guess is if this is not selected, it will use the .compizconfig folder. I have not tested this though (but maybe will recompile just to see). It is quite possible that deleting the apps/compiz key in gconf will restore any weird behaviour, instead of actually recreating the user. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 07:14:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0441716A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B826D13C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m187ERBr077588; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:14:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:15:56 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:14:28 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:14:29 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > millueradfa@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:23 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Some ideas for FreeBSD > > > Dear FreeBSD Developers, > > I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be > improved in an upcoming release. > > My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap > file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification > facility to notify a program when swap is about to run > out, when a program has made a memory request which > requires more swap space than is avialable, and when > swap space is run out. There should also be commands > that can shrink the swap files, and see how much is > being used in the swap files. This allows for the user > to write customised programs that can manage and > allocate new swap space as needed. The OS can come > with a standard version of such a program that allows > a user to specify a maximum swap file size (including > infinite). > At my job we run lots of FreeBSD servers doing various things. Very, very few of them ever have more than a token amount in swap. For example here's top from our busiest mailserver: Mem: 830M Active, 660M Inact, 1121M Wired, 99M Cache, 214M Buf, 7896K Free Swap: 2048M Total, 14M Used, 2034M Free I can spare 2GB off a 300GB array to allocate to swap, and if the OS wants to throw 14MB into the 2GB file for some reason or other, that's fine with me. > > The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS > , and POSIX source compatability in regards to > additional features supported by these systems. I > still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not > supported by FreeBSD that is a real headache. I ran > into this with posix_memalign in some software. > Although posix_memalign is more modern, If it would be > trivial to add support for linux specific valloc and > memalign why not do so as well, to maintain > compatability with older Linux software. > It is better > to just make FreeBSD be as compatable and for stuff to > compile out of box, as possible than to haggle over > conditional ifdefs and changing lines of code in > software. > I disagree - the users who don't understand such things shouldn't be rolling their own stuff, they should be using the ports system. And the people who do understand such stuff are the ones creating the ports. It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 07:15:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4967F16A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCA413C4D1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m187EwJQ042587 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:14:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:14:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:14:58 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080208071454.GA88561@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: probs with "mail notifications" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:15:02 -0000 Do I need to build the entire Gnome world or what? /usr/ports/mail/mail-notification (mail-notification:62023): mail-notification-WARNING **: unable to show popup: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files zsh: command not found: play is what haapened when I tried to set up the mail notification toool. thanks for sokme clues here! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 07:34:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8363916A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F053A13C45D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m187WCeJ001429; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:32:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m187W6ec001425; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:32:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:32:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080208083120.Q1424@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, millueradfa@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:34:27 -0000 > It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. > That's fine. > > It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only > code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same > brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or > stupid to fix Linux. > don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 07:45:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF5016A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mail.itu.dk (pluto.itu.dk [130.226.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCC213C474 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (stud1-15.itu.dk [130.226.140.15]) by mail.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADA136EDBA; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <47AC04DA.8020504@cederstrand.dk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:29:30 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:45:11 -0000 Rek Jed skrev: > > I've been playing with thinbsd (http://www.thinbsd.org/) a while back. > It also boots from tftp without nfs and their boot loader works fine > (boots straight away). Latest thinbsd is based on 5.4 so maybe it broke > in 6.x? For a workaround I used pxeboot from thinbsd with my 6.3 > jumpstart setup and it seems to work fine. However this is quite dirty. I agree that building a boot loader for TFTP should work on current sources, but what makes you think using an old boot loader is dirty? It's just a utility to load a kernel from the network. It's not like it will affect your system when it's installed. Erik (Cederstrand) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 07:50:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF1116A421 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEF313C447 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so3013177fgg.35 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:50:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=5/E0gGgpZtD6Fko2qJ0wqyzhlgApY2l5QNeCFKVsRks=; b=S46Y/paRTmdThCHRVrI55gdYKSAOucF4k77RfBNO6hmvR+G6wSD0+bNADC/IOrs060tI1G3ZYsBP6S96+XKPYLkLY6mEy/jF1TUQLqcow1ZBXNMLCJg3fNg2SOFtFwNrU6dDLPlqjRA40uhYt2cxdnvJrr/CTauzOGWWxgRVYwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=g+/o4MkY/jmvu6jZlg9gTKyRliGAxwNN+oUROrVNg6C68ItVV7MVYydAyYcpXXeecJWwgeW/SMrgtVuw7uE6iN/jPUOORrKSfSAInDohJLhJUSCuVajSGeej62nPfdP3IbW8oraUVbA7xiMFWymGTtmX28IZ2QkBX84bmCi37aM= Received: by 10.82.124.10 with SMTP id w10mr22446762buc.33.1202457027580; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.2 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:50:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:50:27 +0100 From: "Colin Brace" Sender: colin.brace@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: db534008ab469061 Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:50:29 -0000 On Feb 6, 2008 2:10 AM, Erik Osterholm wrote: > Without an ISP's help, they won't know who owns your IP > address. And I suppose that if you have a dynamic IP address, even the ISP may not know, unless they keep records correlating dhcp leases with MAC addresses or phone lines. I'd be curious to know whether this is done, just for theoretical reasons. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 08:46:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CF116A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3347813C468 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m188dE6q081025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:39:15 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:54:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802081054.40808.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -4.35 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:36 -0000 On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:07, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www > (uid=1001, gid=80). The directory has the segid flag set: > > drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www > > HostClient mounts the exported directory on /share/www. HostClient > doesn't know anything about gid 80. > > Now, on HostClient, user copies aFile to /share/www using the -p flag of > cp(1). > > > cp -p aFile /share/www/ > > ls -l > > -rw------- 1 user user 2981888 Feb 7 01:09 /www/aFile > > As shown, the setgid flag of /www hasn't worked. Hang on - you asked cp to preserve the user and group ownership of the file (cp -p). As far as I can see, it's done what you asked it to. I would regard any other result as violating the Principle of Least Astonishment. and on Thursday 07 February 2008 20:48, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:42 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > From HostClient: > >> ls -al /share/ > > > > drwxr-sr-x 4 User www 512 Feb 7 19:23 www > > > >> touch /share/www/foo > >> ls -l /share/www/foo > > > > -rw-r----- 1 user www 0 Feb 7 19:39 /share/www/foo > > > > (group id works) > > Right, this is the BSD setgid semantics one would expect. Surely the BSD way is always to inherit group ownership from the directory? setgid is only used on SYSV systems to emulate the BSD semantics on a per-directory basis - or have I got this completely wrong? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 08:58:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9AC16A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1311113C4EC for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNP4B-0001vu-K0; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <47AC19B7.1040403@gahr.ch> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:58:31 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <47AB48CF.1020804@gahr.ch> <47AB50FB.8020900@gahr.ch> <6E924673-19E3-4CD2-9FE0-242E87FBE2D2@mac.com> <200802081054.40808.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200802081054.40808.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig01C0FE66AEFD92CD93904E55" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp -p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:58:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig01C0FE66AEFD92CD93904E55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:07, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >=20 >> HostServer exports via NFS /www, which belongs to user:www >> (uid=3D1001, gid=3D80). The directory has the segid flag set: >> >> drwsr-xr-x 13 user www 512 Feb 7 00:58 www >> >> HostClient mounts the exported directory on /share/www. HostClient >> doesn't know anything about gid 80. >> >> Now, on HostClient, user copies aFile to /share/www using the -p flag = of >> cp(1). >> >>> cp -p aFile /share/www/ >>> ls -l >> -rw------- 1 user user 2981888 Feb 7 01:09 /www/aFile >> >> As shown, the setgid flag of /www hasn't worked. >=20 > Hang on - you asked cp to preserve the user and group ownership of the = file=20 > (cp -p). As far as I can see, it's done what you asked it to. I would r= egard=20 > any other result as violating the Principle of Least Astonishment. You are right. I thought that the setgid of the destination directory had priority over the -p. If it's not the case, then this means that mv(1) cannot be used across filesystems when one wants to ensure that the setgid of the target directory does what it's supposed to do. From man mv(1): "As the rename(2) call does not work across file systems, mv uses cp(1) and rm(1) to accomplish the move. The effect is equivalent to: rm -f destination_path && \ cp -pRP source_file destination && \ rm -rf source_file " Note that mv invokes cp with the -p option. Is there any way to prevent that? > Jonathan --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig01C0FE66AEFD92CD93904E55 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkesGbwACgkQwMJqmJVx946Z1gCfejL2QVfRjIPk2bfRqpmu79uc JH4AoLJdORUyD1P8zYiQ00tif+7L/xhQ =H68K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig01C0FE66AEFD92CD93904E55-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 08:59:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614BD16A469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBB513C465 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m188NfDj002022 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:23:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1887uoV001987; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:08:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:07:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Colin Brace In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080208090725.L1986@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080206004405.M9353@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080206011046.GA90081@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: www search engines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:59:07 -0000 >> address. > > And I suppose that if you have a dynamic IP address, even the ISP may > not know, unless they keep records correlating dhcp leases with MAC > addresses or phone lines. I'd be curious to know whether this is done, > just for theoretical reasons. Polish telecom holds logs of IP allocation for DSLs and dialins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 09:01:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC9616A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889B513C44B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1063639822; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:01:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AC1A5B.2010101@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:01:15 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:01:22 -0000 Rek Jed wrote: > I also tried building it like that: > > # cd /usr/src/sys/boot > # make LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES LOADER_NFS_SUPPORT=NO > > This builds fine. I copied it to my jumpstart server and it booted from > tftp after approx 2 min. pause and the "NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60". Can > anyone tell me whats the difference between -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES > and LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES? OK, two things remain: Are you sure that it doesn't correctly fetch the kernel with tftp and then the kernel tries to mount a root device with nfs? If the kernel is compiled with the slightest mention of nfs as root device it will use nfs, no matter that you have specified otherwise in loader.conf. The generic kernel has NFS_ROOT and NFS_CLIENT, since your root device is not NFS then you can leave out both. I recall having problems leaving in NFS_CLIENT although NFS_ROOT was not included. Second, the loader is ignorant of which version of FreeBSD you use, it will just load whichever kernel you throw at it. I have a loader I used for 6.1, http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/jumpstart.tgz Hope this helps. If you find any errors or things that have changed since I worked with this, let me know and I will update the howto. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 09:25:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444CA16A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A3413C469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNPUW-00083c-2V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:25:44 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig90E9C42B6064975D14AA8737" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: rename and chmod (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:25:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig90E9C42B6064975D14AA8737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, my view is getting clearer ;-) my problem in understanding the semantics of mv, cp -p and the rename(2) function seems to be related to the terminology used in chmod(1) man page= =2E This is the explanation of setuid (the same holds for setgid): "Directories with this bit set will force all files and subdirectories created in them to be owned by the directory owner and not by the uid of the creating process, if the underlying file system supports this feature= " Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig90E9C42B6064975D14AA8737 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkesIBwACgkQwMJqmJVx944t5QCgpWv0uv29NZ7ILdvnM0xahL/p quoAn3PItKk7MQjxfmggWbC4poCIGJd7 =Guud -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig90E9C42B6064975D14AA8737-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 09:32:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B29916A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from paul.kawaguchichurch.org (pd5e374.sitmff01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [202.213.227.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93A713C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from sm.lkla.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paul.kawaguchichurch.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m189WhLa088116; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:32:44 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from lachlan@lkla.org) Received: from 137.153.0.25 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lachlan) by sm.lkla.org with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:32:44 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <26921.137.153.0.25.1202463164.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <47A9BCB0.8020309@dial.pipex.com> References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> <28742.137.153.0.25.1202301936.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A9BCB0.8020309@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:32:44 +0900 (JST) From: "Lachlan Michael" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mark@msapiro.net Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lachlan@lkla.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:32:50 -0000 >>>How big does the mailman process actually get? top will tell you. >>> >>Mailman values don't budge. None of the mailman processes go over about >>8.5M, which is what they are during idle time. >> > Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, > though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. > > Try running top, then sorting on size (o size inside top) then try your > mailman email again. Make sure the top refresh rate is fast enough. s > 1 inside top would do that, or even s 0 if desperate. Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the large increase in PID). > Other things to try: Up the stack size > ulimit -s 262144 > > inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which > needed this. > > You'd have to check that from a shell (/bin/sh) and first to see that > your system will allow a bigger value. If not, I believe that there is > a sysctl to do that these days but don't have a modern enough system to > look it up. A search for MAXSSIZ on google or mail archives may turn it > up - that's the kernel option but requires a recompile. Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though setting kern.maxssiz="256M" and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical memory is 1GB) > Of course, limits may not be the issue at all. They are a likely > suspect given your error message, but maybe it's worth checking other > bits of the mail system. Can you email a file of the size your are > trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a > limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) is not the cause. > The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the > process that is dying, but I suspect mailman forks a new process to deal > with the email so how you catch it, I don't know. Many demons have a > "run in foreground without forking" option which can be helpful to > debugging, but I don't know if anything like that is possible in > mailman. If you can figure out what mailman actually runs to process > the email, you could ktrace that from the command line. Maybe the > mailman mailing list could give you an incantation to try. I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both files are about 2MB in size) http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory Thanks again for your time and suggestions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 11:09:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F7316A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284A13C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1483E39822; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:09:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AC384C.9040301@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:09:00 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rek Jed References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> <47AC1A5B.2010101@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47AC1A5B.2010101@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:09:03 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Second, the loader is ignorant of which version of FreeBSD you use, it > will just load whichever kernel you throw at it. I have a loader I used > for 6.1, http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/jumpstart.tgz Sorry, wrong. This is not a pxeloader. Gosh it's long time since I did this, don't even know where my files are. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 11:28:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B3D16A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EDC13C4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2785742rvb.43 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr8414342rvl.94.1202470137967; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.179.16 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:28:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:28:57 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> Cc: Subject: Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:28:58 -0000 >Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the source dir. Regards, Wouter 2008/2/8, Pietro Cerutti : > Ok, my view is getting clearer ;-) > > > my problem in understanding the semantics of mv, cp -p and the rename(2) > function seems to be related to the terminology used in chmod(1) man page. > > This is the explanation of setuid (the same holds for setgid): > > "Directories with this bit set will force all files and subdirectories > created in them to be owned by the directory owner and not by the uid of > the creating process, if the underlying file system supports this feature" > > Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory > doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp > > > -- [ wouter@berenboot.xs4all.nl is binnenkort niet meer, wouter@fizzyflux.nl is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 11:31:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D04B16A543 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED3213C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNRRh-0007Yf-Ik; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:31:05 +0100 Message-ID: <47AC3D71.4060409@gahr.ch> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:30:57 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wouter Oosterveld References: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig45AA5563B808CDEAE4297AFE" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:31:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig45AA5563B808CDEAE4297AFE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wouter Oosterveld wrote: >> Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory > doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? >=20 > Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You > just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the > source dir. Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Wouter --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enig45AA5563B808CDEAE4297AFE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkesPXUACgkQwMJqmJVx945SZACeJKvdj5qli+Af1bprKrELYvwJ xZAAoKSPDgfcyvmTLt6ls4JrvfeORcR9 =Aovw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig45AA5563B808CDEAE4297AFE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 11:54:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50C416A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461B13C4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2791121rvb.43 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.18 with SMTP id u18mr3139362rvd.202.1202471647010; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.179.16 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:54:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:54:06 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> <47AC3D71.4060409@gahr.ch> Subject: rename and chmod (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:54:08 -0000 > >> Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory > > doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? > > > > Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You > > just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the > > source dir. > > Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be > treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? No. This has nothing to do with logics but with your premisses, the implementation of mv and standards (IEEE Std 1003.2 (``POSIX.2'')). It just behaves different than you would expect, but that is no logical error. > > Regards, > > > > Wouter > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp > > > -- [ wouter@berenboot.xs4all.nl is binnenkort niet meer, wouter@fizzyflux.nl is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] -- [ wouter@berenboot.xs4all.nl is binnenkort niet meer, wouter@fizzyflux.nl is mijn nieuwe email-adres. ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 12:15:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040FC16A421 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A4013C4D9 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rekjed@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so3074682fgg.35 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:15:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8NPqC+Nt/q8VTADmYB4RDpRySL/7wEUJhKH9Y7HzO8E=; b=cWOgwnx3Em0Fq5qFLV0tK6wc8Gxalkvj4CNpj3UOxwdRSff839hdggp3gYNZSzIk4Qn4zE8QBK2qAWq1B2V9UAt2FBL73W0NWjsRx52pwpP2DMK6GEPhQ1vvOtqFxGWceM5cM2IY1qu0kHJvkzpl6+qXPFCa7wHr1+iGB+zgsyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uRAui+lAdER3/kr1Dxrd+SId6bWmoPzMAUs2B3r5yVyjYQVfmjzR+yLUDt91Iq+wWjkGnrUdd3zY7I7eXMLrFMlpTULJxjcrcUkEEQj6bsd0B6+M8I2kkjj1x0lJAuoMN4DqsUzcSXUd9jvFOJkVVFfeHXjxdUTX3TrzFHxcxUI= Received: by 10.86.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr11608745fgb.65.1202472936759; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mig.darq.net ( [78.86.112.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm7146181fga.1.2008.02.08.04.15.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:15:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AC47D6.3020500@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:15:18 +0000 From: Rek Jed User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> <47AB7DBF.8030302@locolomo.org> <47AB9542.70406@gmail.com> <47AC1A5B.2010101@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47AC1A5B.2010101@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:15:39 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > OK, two things remain: Are you sure that it doesn't correctly fetch > the kernel with tftp and then the kernel tries to mount a root device > with nfs? When I build the pxeloader with LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES it will fetch the kernel from tftp just fine, but after the NFS gracefully times out. It will also fetch & mount the root device from tftp ok. It's just a bit annoying that I have to wait 2 extra minutes every time I need to install a box (I do this quite often), and look for workarounds for something that should "just work". But then, I'm a sysadmin not a developer so it might be easy for me to say. I cannot actually fix it myself. > If the kernel is compiled with the slightest mention of nfs as root > device it will use nfs, no matter that you have specified otherwise in > loader.conf. The generic kernel has NFS_ROOT and NFS_CLIENT, since > your root device is not NFS then you can leave out both. I recall > having problems leaving in NFS_CLIENT although NFS_ROOT was not included. I don't bother compiling a kernel for this at the moment. I just copied the contents of /boot from a FreeBSD CD to the root of my tftp server. Then I copied the custom build loader files so that I can boot from tftp instead of nfs: boot0 boot1 boot2 loader.conf loader.rc mbr pxeboot Then I mount the stock mfsroot and copy my install.cfg over to script sysinstall. I've actually got a script that I can use to easily update install.cfg when needed. The idea behind all this is to keep it as simple to setup as possible so that me and my fellow network engineers at work can use this on their laptops without spending too much time on setting it up. This way if we need to install/re-install a box on a clients site we just rock up, run a few commands or a script to set the laptop in jumpstart mode (once the main thing has been setup it's just a matter of reconfiguring an interface and starting a few services), plug it in to the box, netboot and while the box is reinstalling we can have a chat with the client, see how things are going, look good and provide a better service. This also means that we always start with a machine that is in a know state. It's something that is almost impossible to achieve when installing by hand as everyone seems to do it differently. I'm happy to share my docs once I've ironed it all out and tested properly. Cheers, Jedrek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 12:41:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC4816A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40C413C45E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 2969029/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.32 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKrcq0c+8aIg/2dsb2JhbACSCJoZ X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.32]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2008 12:41:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A569E000088; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:41:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47AC4E08.1060801@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:41:44 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lachlan@lkla.org References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <69739C80-0639-4808-B5EB-0D9553826559@dpcsys.com> <30396.137.153.0.36.1202264253.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A99B4E.1080707@dial.pipex.com> <28742.137.153.0.25.1202301936.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47A9BCB0.8020309@dial.pipex.com> <26921.137.153.0.25.1202463164.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> In-Reply-To: <26921.137.153.0.25.1202463164.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mark@msapiro.net Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:41:51 -0000 Lachlan Michael wrote: >>Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, >>though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. >> >> >Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process > > /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner >--runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s > >is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I >couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), >then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the >large increase in PID). > > All I can think us that qrunner asks for such a large amount of memory in one go, that it bombs out without ever growing. That fits with the ktrace output as well. Regretably, I don't think you can tell *how* much memory was asked for. (The normal pattern with out of memory errors is for the process to grow and grown and grow and die; but it's not the only one). >>Other things to try: Up the stack size >> ulimit -s 262144 >> >>inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which >>needed this. >> >> >Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though setting >kern.maxssiz="256M" >and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. >Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical >memory is 1GB) > > Certainly not more than physical memory :-) To be honest, if 256M doesn't do it then this probably isn't the problem. I'm not particularly hopeful that this will do it, but in your circumstance I would try it. At the same time, you could also increase the data size (maxdsiz?) to 1Gb (yours looks like 0.5Gb, half your physical memory). My limit settings (also 1Gb) look like: datasize 1048576 kbytes stacksize 262144 kbytes which come from trying to set 256Mb and 1024Mb in the kernel config (old FreeBSD - no sysctls). Keep the ulimit -a in the mailman startup script so you can confirm that you really get these numbers. >>Can you email a file of the size your are >>trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a >>limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. >> >> > >This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar >sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) >is not the cause. > > OK - rule that out. The ktrace showing qrunner failing a break pretty much does that too. >>The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the >>process that is dying, >> >I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which >process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and >obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called >mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large >mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both >files are about 2MB in size) > >http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ > >Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file >is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. > > 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 > 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) > 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 > 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) > 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory > > The kdump output is the only useful bit, really. Your analysis seems correct to me. You are also getting a stack trace from python when it exits with the "out of memory" error. ktrace is just showing python printing the stuff - it may be that the error also ends up in a log file somewhere - don't know where mailman logs, sorry. From that stack trace it should be possible to figure out which line of the python is actually causing that memory request. My bet is on one of the cPickle lines, but it would be nice to see the stack trace "raw" so to speak. Maybe that stack trace would help someone on the mailman list suggest something else. Did you already try sending a different kind of attachment that's the same kind of size (a bit bigger would be better). Maybe it's something about the attachment itself that's causing the issue? As a final resort, if none of the above resolves or leads to clues, I would try uninstalling python2.5 and installing python2.4 *just in case*. I'm assuming that you only have python for mailman. (If you have real python users then it's trickier. You can install multiple versions of python but possibly not from ports. But python always compiled cleanly from tarball on FreeBSD for me. I can offer some help with that process if you really need it). I can't help thinking that 500Kb is a very small attachment and I can't really see why it would legitimately cause a request for so much memory that your settings aren't handling it. A quick look at the mailman web site shows that you can run qrunner from the command line - couldn't immediately find the man page though. If you could somehow queue up the email with Mailman switched off, you could run qrunner by hand and then you'd definitely get the python backtrace. Maybe the mailman list, or a mailman admin here, can help with that, if you need it. Running out of ideas. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 13:38:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56816A539 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-03.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-03.bluehost.com [69.89.21.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4322913C44B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 25383 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2008 13:38:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 13:38:23 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNTQt-0004UH-Lr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:38:23 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:38:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:38:22 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:38:25 -0000 I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on which interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world. Do I just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a script to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be using exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm using, or is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I overlooking? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 13:51:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5383F16A469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2530913C478 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so432122waf.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:51:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8t6frhSX3JXfZo/XlhoEZnygAU1vruoBB63zrkI/K8o=; b=lkNS2JJx6Y82hJerAKKT7iJDBzC3yepSDJ8BKhQD2ZDM4b4b0sCjaXKTvlxCnsWbmzvzshrv7Y86/0x6+zFzOmZBQASnxknz9na27SuH38Rsaq2vSouDkajgIapAXS2G3CcoObqnvz8eqGq3luS5UrK8AWS8t1akxetKoDkOTwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HJRYlgvNyKgSpYdJ/4PqT6ZEZR6htV856ENdowwLorWTvtCKmNzc4sXnYCJFIXvr5DWyj9t8v8ECGgcQBcHnqudcdBsHSI02lkT50U3xYVRHoAK3i7DjC/QsXUNX4iQJ2bd+XeuHVoDdFAK1EJRnQ1pJpI1ZIOba6iGDuKWiLK8= Received: by 10.114.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr5173264wab.70.1202478718747; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.113.11 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:51:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20802080551h7f995b60j86d6f5e3ac412e92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:51:58 -0500 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802072154.06464.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> <200802072154.06464.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:51:59 -0000 > first of all, /usr/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk is part of the FreeBSD system make > files, not just the ports. So if you change something there, you will almost > certainly break your buildworld and buildkernel. Depends on what you add, but for the most part, yes, I agree that is likely. > On Wednesday 06 February 2008 16:49:46 Jim Stapleton wrote: > > > 1) Initially, this library will actually build several sublibraries. > > To keep my code neat, each library has it's own source directory. > > So you set SUBDIR. That was background not a question. I managed that part. (I think it was from the zipped make tutoral suggested by the man page or ports). > [...] > > Objects are put in OBJDIR. If you have not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in the > environment, this will default to ${.CURDIR} and give you a warning. That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Roughly speaking, under src/, I had backends/[SHLIB_NAME]/, frontends/[BIN_NAME], objs/, and include/. I wanted to build everything into objs/, that way I only needs the ldflags to have "-L../../objs", rather than "-L../foo -L../bar", where foo and bar vary from app to app. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 13:53:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE7C16A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774EE13C46E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1815C39822 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:53:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:53:39 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:53:42 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless > device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 > ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I > haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. How about this: ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" block in quick on ext_ifs all pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state ... As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:00:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8953816A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C071413C4D9 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m18E09NO045744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:00:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m18E09NO045744 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47AC6068.3060005@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:00:08 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:00:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5743/Fri Feb 8 12:45:29 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:00:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Chad Perrin wrote: > I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless > device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 > ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I > haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. > > I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on which > interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world. Do I > just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a script > to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be using > exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm using, or > is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I > overlooking? > You might be able to use link aggregation to make this work. See lagg(4) - -- there's an example in there of automatic fail-over between a wireless and a wired interface. Assuming that your wireless and wired interfaces would all sit on the same network and you can move the IP from one to the other, it should work. In pf.conf you'ld need to set: ext_if="(lagg0)' (The brackets are important if the IP is dynamically assigned and could change) Completely untried, but I think this should work. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHrGBn3jDkPpsZ+VYRA3UDAKCVRiDc08UWXwe10W0UYpg01hchgACfdFeh XyqzAidCAgAut5tOtgryUi8= =FDYK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:03:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE9C16A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@csolve.net) Received: from frodo.csolve.net (frodo.csolve.net [207.164.81.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EF213C46A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@csolve.net) Received: from alpha.csolve.net ([10.10.18.126]) by frodo.csolve.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNTZB-000FXC-2B; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:46:57 -0500 Message-Id: <1EA6DA21-64D4-41CF-9A1B-9A961C0B489E@csolve.net> From: Derek Buttineau To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:46:57 -0500 References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Authenticated-Id: derek@csolve.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:03:52 -0000 On 2008-Feb-08, at 8:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless > device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 > ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I > haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. > > I'd like to be able to have the $ext_if value change depending on > which > interface is active and being used to connect to the outside world. > Do I > just need to create two full sets of rules in my pf.conf (or use a > script > to rewrite that file from scratch each time), even though I'll be > using > exactly the same rules for PF regardless of which interface I'm > using, or > is there some simple way to avoid that sort of redundancy? What am I > overlooking? > You can add a macro that will apply rules to both interfaces simultaneously. i.e. lan_if = "bge0" wi_if = "iwi0" ext_if = "{" lan_if wi_if "}" block in on $ext_if all I know it's not dynamically updating but should suffice. -- Regards, Derek Buttineau Internet Systems Developer Compu-SOLVE Internet Services Compu-SOLVE Technologies, Inc Phone: 705-725-1212 x255 E-Mail: derek@csolve.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:39:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FAF16A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A446C13C45D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so6497737qbd.7 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:39:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/fEN+uy/cjAYc2jVrJIxVk6FlJ9t4RFRh1evib1nfOw=; b=Ll7lDX4m2AerklLdp4gQnmJuMwlcKYjggUDSmMwuN/1fzMHFVkOKIyPXh4p7IJUlur91nt8nsFwC2TmsrCUoRlJ8Xsyuh4UKN/NrcsSgVio673n5iVRhfzfhTx7dHfnSzSgXFh2nQXBd/vBuAXqq4jLK4ehWLTqMpGMfmtG9i58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nta338IjK3eb5ofGc+BGQ7eZVFEsfvNIgPEK53BJ0ItS2TBy0+2hXkosGuGpe3SRW5oFkYAgOSRk7t0IxVkvKmg/XcvrDQ9OVufEYy1jTbMNjcJH99Zx7E5I1yKllQFCj92MMV/+g30pJA1o/FT2lidjtly+9kWbIbXS7gwl2JE= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr163162wal.41.1202481582363; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.113.11 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20802080639y74d5cf3dye856a18c47a99cdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:39:42 -0500 From: "Jim Stapleton" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200802072154.06464.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20802060749p60c9d0ddw83b1ecbbed19db47@mail.gmail.com> <200802072154.06464.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: ports makefile stuff (bsd.lib.mk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:39:49 -0000 > Objects are put in OBJDIR. If you have not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX in the > environment, this will default to ${.CURDIR} and give you a warning. I tried setting MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX as shown in the makefile copy below, but the libraries are still appearing in the source directory (src/backends/core) and not in the directory I want them to output to (src/objs). I tried using OBJDIR instead, but without any success. I tried all four of these lines, only the last removed the warning, but it still had the objects built to the source directory. MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH) OBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH) OBJDIR=$(OBJPATH) .OBJDIR=$(OBJPATH) Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong? Thank you, -Jim Stapleton #directories/requirements #In order of most likely to least likely to change #what we are building OBJNAME=vp_backend_core VERSION=1.0 SRCS=back_end_core.c HDRS= ../../include/virtual_ports_backend.h REQLIB= OBJPATH=../../objs INCLUDE_PATHS=-I../../include -I/usr/local/include LIB_PATHS=-L/usr/local/lib -L$(OBJPATH) #beyond this point *shouldn't* need change between files CFLAGS+= $(INCLUDE_PATHS) CXXFLAGS+= $(INCLUDE_PATHS) LDADD=$(LIB_PATHS) $(REQLIB) .if defined(DEBUG) CFLAGS+=-g -D DEBUG CXXFLAGS+=-g -D DEBUG .endif #for bsd.lib.mk LIB=$(OBJNAME)-$(VERSION) SHLIB_NAME=$(OBJNAME)-$(VERSION) INSTALL_PIC_ARCHIVE=1 OTHER=Makefile MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$(OBJPATH) .include From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:41:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F91416A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suprema.info@supremasc.com.br) Received: from predator.supremasc.com.br (supremasc.com.br [200.101.235.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89AA813C442 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suprema.info@supremasc.com.br) Received: (qmail 5992 invoked by uid 1009); 8 Feb 2008 14:32:34 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.26 by predator (envelope-from , uid 1010) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/767. Clear:RC:0(192.168.0.26):. Processed in 0.12041 secs); 08 Feb 2008 14:32:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.26?) (suprema.info@supremasc.com.br@192.168.0.26) by predator.supremasc.com.br with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 14:32:34 -0000 Message-ID: <47AC7805.6060507@supremasc.com.br> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:40:53 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Suprema_Inform=E1tica_Ltda_-_Leandro?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: two links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:41:09 -0000 Good morning, I need active two links of internet, but i don´t know do this. I have 3 interfaces internet 1 adsl gateway = 172.168.0.254 - ip interface = 172.168.0.253 internet 2 adsl gateway = 192.168.1.254 - ip interface = 192.168.1.253 interface to lan internal = 10.0.0.254 My default gateway is 172.168.0.254. I need active the second link (192.168.1.254) only access port 22, just port 22. Freebsd 6.3 + ipfw Sorry my english. Thanks for all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:51:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3581716A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C699213C448 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so3476569wri.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:51:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=WaSSUy4aAnSh2jzPRVi934MLZybRDp8jgogNqN8j8R8=; b=K2yUMPA5quoHflY7gOskziOeIQl0AsYsWhiRnvI/iwjfcSZ1PeiNf+xpb/pjEzgFyKz7ss0JoAZDHHe14uxdKtjJgKIqjIc2veNdA6v2BDQOlT9zOTa9LNPNr3smsL31Qyzjertmka6xvwJA8187hiC19x1ka3h2SDziSw9skg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=kPlIf17hoLUrIVkldi9Csl7ywMxhlq6elciMZ80EU/Ye1r79n6NQm1JCVzWIbWZQZqLUpUU0Fgcwu63j1RtpLN5WnvHM2JfoMIF1lmXaAN2QfN6h2qebjuGXUMf8BvSvJdIEei6SnIQAW+nsfduF6i2bWXbKIJp5FKIUYipy4/U= Received: by 10.142.111.14 with SMTP id j14mr6962336wfc.96.1202480808282; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.187.1 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:26:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <582715960802080626m22c586a4j5c8de009294a0aae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:26:48 -0500 From: "Eric Mesa" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How do I get unicode support in python? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:51:28 -0000 I'm running a web server with FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and python 2.4.3. I'm unable to print any characters outside of ascii. I have tried this code on my Linux computer, which has python 2.5.x and it works - so the code is solid. What do I need to do to get python on the web server to have unicode support? Is there a module/package I need to import in the 2.4 series? Or is there some package/port I need to install? Or do I just recompile python with some different flags? (And does that entail any uninstalling first?) Thanks, -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:56:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B8C16A46C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romzes@upstar.com.ua) Received: from mail.upstar.com.ua (mail.upstar.kiev.ua [195.140.246.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C7513C47E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romzes@upstar.com.ua) Received: from romzes.office (romzes.office [10.31.0.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.upstar.com.ua (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m18EWDHJ091669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:32:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from romzes@upstar.com.ua) Message-ID: <47AC67F9.30407@upstar.com.ua> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:32:25 +0200 From: Roman Otsaljuk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070924) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on mail.upstar.kiev.ua X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5742/Fri Feb 8 14:16:54 2008 on mail.upstar.kiev.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: inetd + few ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:56:07 -0000 how can I specify few ip-addresses inetd listen on? not all. or all except few? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:05:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A79716A46C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21DA13C442 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-0-241.net-htp.de [89.182.0.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7301A44529 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:05:21 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:06:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <582715960802080626m22c586a4j5c8de009294a0aae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <582715960802080626m22c586a4j5c8de009294a0aae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802081606.50274.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: How do I get unicode support in python? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:05:25 -0000 Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2008 15:26:48 schrieb Eric Mesa: > I'm running a web server with FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and python 2.4.3. I'm > unable to print any characters outside of ascii. I have tried this code = on > my Linux computer, which has python 2.5.x and it works - so the code is > solid. > > What do I need to do to get python on the web server to have unicode > support? Is there a module/package I need to import in the 2.4 series? = Or > is there some package/port I need to install? Or do I just recompile > python with some different flags? (And does that entail any uninstalling > first?) =46or Python to be able to "print" unicode characters to the console, it mu= st=20 know the encoding of the console. Generally, this entails setting up LC_ALL= =20 and LANG and of course your terminal (emulator) appropriately, and testing= =20 whether the interpreter sets the correct encoding on startup (which can be= =20 found as sys.getdefaultencoding()). When the encoding that the interpreter= =20 uses to "print" _unicode_-strings cannot encode the unicode characters you= =20 hand it to the current default encoding, the codec barfs: [modelnine@phoenix ~]$ python Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Nov 6 2007, 19:02:51) [GCC 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD]] on freebsd7 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import sys >>> sys.getdefaultencoding() 'ascii' >>> print u"\xfa" Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xfa' in positio= n=20 0: ordinal not in range(128) >>> print u"\xfa".encode("latin-1") =FA >>> Basically, the easiest resolution is to do the conversion yourself (like I = did=20 in the second example). The other possibility is to change the deault=20 encoding to something that matches your default console (probably latin-1),= =20 which you can do in /usr/local/lib/python2x/site.py. HTH! =2D-=20 Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:21:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12316A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F413C4F9 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so4268054fka.11 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:21:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=sJ9XrQ30AyT6iGvGDgisNob7iC2YajPT4piUj0shKbA=; b=ndwDQzuVvpbihk2EfkezecOmIGbFtR4F8g34yGOpCVYAhzdz44f5Cn42XHBHGFwmiKwh4EEl3fFOX84S9yLbjYkvNoNNIUqfJW0wBUmMq8g+7WUmLTZaqysBj3/gqV4NpKn4tcS6+XQixPxu+6Ed4C+lAP3s87VXIYpogEa8+Pw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=rP9UGFzfzOvdRrfy/jpGv6yn6FANeUf3X+uwjd2ZInNf+eGJJPb61/ckzqiPAWJ96gNsklL8NB2LCGsN23KBpjXMe2Qr1fZdEN1MMoAIO9t8jA/MvylQe1J7qjl5dXeuQKsfSx7r3cg8vAK/23yFpm7NiCb/8OemoC8bLh7aEUQ= Received: by 10.82.187.2 with SMTP id k2mr23191236buf.16.1202484097441; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.2 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:21:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:21:37 +0100 From: "Colin Brace" Sender: colin.brace@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080208002907.GB44114@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <20080206224832.D69257@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <87f7f4170802070831pf619d60tecd92e9a6411f912@mail.gmail.com> <20080208002907.GB44114@demeter.hydra> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 54d3f4ea85571372 Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? 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Apparently, an extension called Better Gmail allowed this at one point but not now. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:32:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F9A16A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6724613C4CE for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:34:34 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m18FWLjr015092 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:32:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:32:21 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080208153221.GA14742@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2008 15:34:34.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B2BAF90:01C86A68] Subject: H.323 gatekeeper && what endpoints for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:32:24 -0000 Hello, In our company we're using a lot video conferencing over IP, as point-to-point connections (i.e. each VC system has its own IP) and MCU allow 3-4... VC in the same session. So far so good. Some days ago I was asked to make ready our VC to connect to some University network using a H.323 gatekeeper which will allow multiple partners in the session, while I'm just calling up the IP of this H.323 gatekeeper. This was pretty new to me that my VC allows even this and I was thinking in what to do with that 'new' feature. This brought me to the idea to install on some FreeBSD host in our company VPN just the gatekeeper (from the ports), let all other VC just call-in to that central gatekeeper *and* allow even laptops with a H.323 endpoint software join the session over H.323. Does someone has worked with such H.323 endpoints on FreeBSD, for example with 'cphone' from the ports? What kind of cam could I make use of? See also: http://www.gnugk.org/h323-endpoint.html Thanks in advance for any hint matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:33:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D264C16A421 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8057113C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so3498640wri.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:33:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=By/C2ohzTTQ9ygRpx462Sdyz+12LS+0m0liGac2bBng=; b=eSf2ypksPQzVD2tVoU/oW1Ep131MLzicERvfCd5OpWXMNB46J++8OgvcQoJSEtv4lOPi8JOWoKUGCttCuUDaPYjoE0eLx0svFIvtiHgnA8qpNfl1gljv9InMBYUPulNANwdbdV92snWG/6f5G5VIP3bnN5BzqIIVYUfZnFFDnu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fXf/8LsoXBOTLyI36BNiyO11hFgB8rqNjjgm+TXVfEDgo73qvrPvSIddUOpTfkA2heTH1yjl5d6WFt1tx4yCvPVUucW6DU5xq+G+K+FINnrBwiS2fEDi/2DpZ3qUx0XBnWzIH8ewa/0kk34iKgbu0acJPxFKYPg5EKr/QkxNd0M= Received: by 10.141.27.16 with SMTP id e16mr8566239rvj.141.1202483318839; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.97.14 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:08:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8efc42630802080708x29fcd513h1d5392404506db1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:08:38 -0500 From: "Simon Chang" To: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=85=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=9C_Anuj_Singh?=" In-Reply-To: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A non FreeBSD question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:33:13 -0000 T24gRmViIDcsIDIwMDggMTA6MjkgUE0sIOCkheCkqOClgeCknCBBbnVqIFNpbmdoIDxhbnVqaGVy ZUBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgo+IEhpLAoKPGlycmVsZXZhbnQgZHJpdmVsIHNuaXBwZWQuLi4+ CgpUaGlzIGlzIGNvbXBsZXRlbHkgb2ZmLXRvcGljLiAgRWl0aGVyIHBvc3Qgc29tZXRoaW5nIG9u LXRvcGljLCBvciBkbwpub3QgcG9zdCBhdCBhbGwuCgpTQwo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:43:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BFA16A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0736113C45E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m18Fdgno035418; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:39:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m18Fdf0l035417; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:39:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:39:41 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Jason C. Wells" Message-ID: <20080208153941.GB35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <47AAA5F0.4090803@highperformance.net> <200802070818.45400.wundram@beenic.net> <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:43:11 -0000 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > >Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells: > >>Norberto Meijome wrote: > >>>But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files? > >>One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way > >>you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance > >>would be way better than disc. > > > >Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the md system is backed up > >by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; why'd you want to > >access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or it's backed up by > >swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or an egg would still > be inferior to an md backed swap. :) Huh? md backed swap is just using memory which, if you hadn't wasted it by making it md, it might obviate the need for swap at all - anyway it would not be a faster system if the md had to be swapped out. It just adds another layer of interferrence. ////jerry > > Regards, > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:48:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CAD16A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA0B13C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m18FijhM035489; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:44:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m18FijTK035488; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:44:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:44:45 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: ???????????? Anuj Singh Message-ID: <20080208154445.GD35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A non FreeBSD question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:48:14 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:59:22AM +0530, ???????????? Anuj Singh wrote: > Hi, > It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what > people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause > i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time > goes with computers over freebsd/linux. > > If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking > the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not > to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? > 1.From a normal persons point of view. > 2.From the point of view of spouse. The person is busy somewhere or has the phone turned off. I don't know any spouses who check every hour -- at least any spouses in a good marriage relationship. ////jerry > > Thanks. :-) > > Anuj > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 15:57:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EB516A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262B413C469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m18Fs3Du035619; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m18Fs3LH035618; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:54:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20080208155403.GF35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47AC2018.6010403@gahr.ch> <47AC3D71.4060409@gahr.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AC3D71.4060409@gahr.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Wouter Oosterveld , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rename and chmod (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:57:34 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:30:57PM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Wouter Oosterveld wrote: > >> Now, from a logical point of view, why moving a file into a directory > > doesn't fall into the "created into them" case? > > > > Because (if on the same filesystem) you don't create a new file. You > > just link the file in the destination dir and unlink the file from the > > source dir. > > Exactly. But from a /*logical*/ point of view, shouldn't this case be > treated /*as if*/ the file was created inside the target directory? Not if you use mv. If you use cp, then it could. By definition, mv only moves the pointer/link or whatever it is called and doesn't change anything else. ////jerry > > > > > Regards, > > > > Wouter > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:00:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B1616A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DB013C474 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4B1EBC3B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:00:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:00:52 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20080208110052.43e1c506.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20080208154445.GD35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3120c9e30802071929h7e091fa3q5ab7c630ca8c0150@mail.gmail.com> <20080208154445.GD35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Anuj Singh Subject: Re: A non FreeBSD question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:00:55 -0000 In response to Jerry McAllister : > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:59:22AM +0530, ???????????? Anuj Singh wrote: > > > Hi, > > It may start flame, Next lines may seem funny but I want to see what > > people think say, sorry i am posting here, just to get an idea. Cause > > i am also one of the open source user/lover and my most of the time > > goes with computers over freebsd/linux. > > > > If someone is away from his cell for around an hour, thus not picking > > the phone, and his colleagues does not knows where is he as he has not > > to give reporting to anyone, it means what's he doing? > > 1.From a normal persons point of view. > > 2.From the point of view of spouse. > > The person is busy somewhere or has the phone turned off. > I don't know any spouses who check every hour -- at least any > spouses in a good marriage relationship. Bah. It means he's kayaking: http://www.potentialtech.com/Cucumber/ I mean, it's kinda tough to answer the phone under those circumstances ... -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:20:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C14316A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msapiro.net) Received: from msapiro.net (msapiro.net [68.183.193.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12AC13C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msapiro.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=msapiro) by msapiro.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id JVXG7Z-0001Z8-CL; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:55:11 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Ultrafunk Popcorn 1.76 (09-August-2006) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:55:05 -0800 From: Mark Sapiro To: Alex Zbyslaw , lachlan@lkla.org In-Reply-To: <47AC4E08.1060801@dial.pipex.com> Organization: Not Very Much Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:20:34 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >You are also getting a stack trace from python when it exits with the >"out of memory" error. ktrace is just showing python printing the stuff >- it may be that the error also ends up in a log file somewhere - don't >know where mailman logs, sorry. From that stack trace it should be >possible to figure out which line of the python is actually causing that >memory request. My bet is on one of the cPickle lines, but it would be >nice to see the stack trace "raw" so to speak. Maybe that stack trace >would help someone on the mailman list suggest something else. Hi, I'm the Mailman guy on this thread. >From the errors that were reported on mailman-users@python.org, there are two different manifestations that we've seen, resulting in different tracebacks (logged in Mailman's 'error' log). Here's the flow. With a message of 1.5 to 2 MB in size, the message is piped from the MTA to Mailman's 'post' script which creates a queue entry which is a file containing two python pickles. The first just contains the raw message text and the second is a small bit of metadata about the message/entry. This process which is a pipe spawned by the MTA works. Next, Mailman's IncomingRunner picks up the queue entry and hits the MemoryError exception in the call to cPickle to read the file and unpickle the raw message. This is before it has done any processing of the message, so the MemoryError is only related to unpickling the raw text if the text is large enough. With a message of 300 to 500 KB, the process is the same, but the unpickling of the queuue entry into message text and metadata succeeds. The MemoryError occurs in this case in the Python email library as it is parsing the message text into an email message object. This process is known to be a memory hog in that at some point the entire raw message text and the full message object (which is at least as big as the message text) will be resident at the same time. I.e., it takes more than twice as much memory to parse a message as to store it. Note that these messages are not really large. Most Mailman installations can handle much larger messages without problem. >Did you already try sending a different kind of attachment that's the >same kind of size (a bit bigger would be better). Maybe it's something >about the attachment itself that's causing the issue? In the first case above, it is almost certainly just the size of the message text. I'm certain the same thing would occur with a simple text/plain message if it had a 1.5MB body. >As a final resort, if none of the above resolves or leads to clues, I >would try uninstalling python2.5 and installing python2.4 *just in >case*. I'm assuming that you only have python for mailman. (If you >have real python users then it's trickier. You can install multiple >versions of python but possibly not from ports. But python always >compiled cleanly from tarball on FreeBSD for me. I can offer some help >with that process if you really need it). That would be worth a try. There could be a problem in the underlying Python. I don't know how FreeBSD packages Mailman, but the source distribution installs a pythonlib directory in Mailman's tree with its own Python email library which is compatible with Python back to 2.1, so if this is the case with FreeBSD, downgrading Python wouldn't change the email packege, but it still might help. >I can't help thinking that 500Kb is a very small attachment and I can't >really see why it would legitimately cause a request for so much memory >that your settings aren't handling it. Agreed. >A quick look at the mailman web site shows that you can run qrunner from >the command line - couldn't immediately find the man page though. bin/qrunner --help >If >you could somehow queue up the email with Mailman switched off, you >could run qrunner by hand and then you'd definitely get the python >backtrace. Maybe the mailman list, or a mailman admin here, can help >with that, if you need it. We see the Python traceback, so we don't need to do that. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:25:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B279316A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6982B13C43E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1513828ele.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Ssw1yF/KzbzNf3Iwwkz/1xYiJzc7fRPB2wtsOwDzTc4=; b=WRgsJvVafULvulF0mZjOqNxDt1ELAfbgAh0r9Fw4vP2dyAsGquY7tQAnlLVS2ZjsX/bmcFcy9+TvkYMpCRlsQnTX+codrct0fMUx6zDcYnukDG4/ZiafkeavxH2exT7uTKVLAezim6uETos3PZiim0fzPxuikKrNYv5IgqgcpeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Vm2L+joOY2gH9AAGC2XdDm/5dZGhr19V5XD19TLe9nAsIa7X+nY1lLxME7n519RU1CYt0VKjEbAO8jMOBETYxldUHjFiyd1fr1uQiU14CLMoo8iz1DJeXFptQQDFTJHxQyw7u9ATtW80jCQt/gmF4VUujxsNSoeTt+phNP/JZl0= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr7066336wfd.149.1202487926026; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:25:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:25:26 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c1402474975c31a Subject: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:25:27 -0000 [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. ??? Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:42:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E281416A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622B313C43E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m18Gentb090376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:40:51 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:42:49 +0000 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:42:55 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean > ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. > > ??? Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. Vince > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:46:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E26116A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devanand_sp@yahoo.com) Received: from n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04E4B13C45E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devanand_sp@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 08:30:41 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.217] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:33:14 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.88] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:33:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2008 16:33:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 651487.84236.bm@omp204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53214 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2008 16:33:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=sBhTEmVOIoeAwofVI0fVPwmHE3hf++SDdGOsQEks8Aa4nBKuDpLADr1GVWPdPVKODDrLCE8hy4TkMi+ab+mmtWgjcTi04zXcNygjFExu48SrBgpuJM3Ba2yJ1bTVV9dEubQlaZA1Tj+TQTW5E+1RvFFUJgIgUfDV0eJYuaE/prw=; X-YMail-OSG: EasdMOsVM1kvwnga1otNUpsypEOJN5G.8xh9deQRcwlSK31iFIco0.AIhSTCB5L1zTjC0q43hu5tfJuQaqcyLZG2byuyFqn9E3SWzxcZy5aNESmhUiUeSPy_epOd4Q-- Received: from [203.83.248.37] by web45110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:33:14 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Devanand SP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <559446.52619.qm@web45110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to find CPU IDLE Percentage on SMP (Dual processor Host) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:46:24 -0000 Hi Everyone, I am using a FreeBSD version 4.11 for running my BIND. I am in a need of setting up an audit for the CPU Utilization on my resolvers and have a query about finding the CPU IDLE percentage on a DUAL processor hosts. As the BIND binary uses only the first processor, the second CPU most of the time not used by BIND. So in this case the in built system utilities like top or sar does average the CPU IDLE percentage by adding up the First CPU's IDLE % + Second CPU's IDLE % /2. This in turn will give me a wrong result. So can someone suggest me on how I can get the right CPU IDLE %? Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 16:54:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45F816A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: from web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6934B13C467 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62647 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2008 16:54:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rQ9Pj0vZavtB44cP/pQQRkxwhkzEf2SZxMcBK8uleawaWJ4tdu9/JJqU9F35oQLdXnYD9cvp8BeVoP1+l9KmVk/q0G5hPKam9qP1UvB099xTRB8gp3Znl2IHP8cJx6uEsb9p/wnNSqnqBLPhMwFIsOGnl9aD45vOKI9jY+QBorI=; X-YMail-OSG: ZD7Gg54VM1mzRaBMQ5AF2E8RkiITJ3XynK722H.QPcVQ9XrAGGdrC4UFpSGx8eYPDGGtn3DCJwx_M9PGEPj2q4t3l7Vh36Yb32stouCZp3BhWd6o5G4- Received: from [72.187.244.205] by web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:54:03 PST Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:54:03 -0800 (PST) From: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" To: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080208153941.GB35348@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <484700.62092.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:54:04 -0000 --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C. > Wells wrote: > > > Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > >Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb > Jason C. Wells: > > >>Norberto Meijome wrote: > > >>>But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want > to use swap files? > > >>One could mount an md filesystem and then use > that as swap. That way > > >>you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a > plus, the performance > > >>would be way better than disc. > > > > > >Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the > md system is backed up > > >by RAM (in which case you don't need the swap > anyway; why'd you want to > > >access RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in > RAM?), or it's backed up by > > >swap, in which case you have a chicken and egg > problem. > > > > Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken > or an egg would still > > be inferior to an md backed swap. :) > > Huh? > md backed swap is just using memory which, if you > hadn't wasted it > by making it md, it might obviate the need for swap > at all - anyway > it would not be a faster system if the md had to be > swapped out. It > just adds another layer of interferrence. > > ////jerry > > > > > Regards, > > Jason > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well, actually, these are file backed swap devices. You can do both file and memory backed devices. this allows you to have a swap file on the hard disk and mount it. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id B339416A41B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080208170200.B339416A41B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id B430816A420; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080208170200.B430816A420@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E87D16A468 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C458013C478 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1526518ele.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:04:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=vUjRaLHUmfssHyvAVwI6WQLGFK97JVWaWRfqIFhFSOg=; b=YZwkEfPppBu8ZeSAm5toODk2Tuduy+u5SC2aBeIBs5V3D4SeT0wejW+VYZlfZMIwfx2YHJ3YXa6PYdh7X0vW1Kxc3uEHAA0m6N4E7eBXrg6ENFWBCFEnZMxjjAQK5nbtP1NOk/EpJETsQoGPmt5fLr6UTQR+mbGJuhRXRa+3TVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PjwyC4j7HRoNxYN+LuLP+7sEzxOslplhFUmaXDAinDFD3wEczs6BU4gt+2wlxLLBZVB9A7QPiNjhFmVRFiWFHwK5nmnrfl60LHG84/cfXN4KYl7y9EWKe3haM3MbPV8IzRVUeCIDT9qa654+H1uwiNRGGQjMVvTGeGIPNfmMQ10= Received: by 10.142.141.21 with SMTP id o21mr184054wfd.84.1202490260575; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:04:20 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Vince Hoffman" In-Reply-To: <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 444f2869518c1898 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:04:23 -0000 But there are sites (such as this one: http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that possible if the kernel is too old for it? Steve On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman wrote: > > Steve Franks wrote: > > [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean > > ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. > > > > ??? > > Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. > http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel > > I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. > > > Vince > > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:16:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B5516A421 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: from web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CF5E13C458 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millueradfa@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2562 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2008 17:16:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HHKg/7pT8dlM4ODBux8q4SQDibezL1i0BZaYYqJSpb/Sc/GpPOZb/wVV7+sfPtRcrci9JsSnYStYx5FDOfTWp2UwaUbFPRKtIuFlArFx9v/jogIfLyOZ0cETI7A1e6npyu9OfjJfJF1wMXnUmCJLpM6MX2qJv0SOZqpEvYRW548=; X-YMail-OSG: LzzauioVM1lHEFVHuZS6reLZjaKdtF..vUJz_xbVKPeYujTfZSH79V0TCBHIAElXSsGEouC62tTDdweiiubiWpRUzBkGJbKd1c1qqcX.J730ENp4N0Y- Received: from [72.187.244.205] by web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:16:52 PST Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" To: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <229884.2551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:16:54 -0000 --- "Jason C. Wells" wrote: > Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb > Jason C. Wells: > >> Norberto Meijome wrote: > >>> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to > use swap files? > >> One could mount an md filesystem and then use > that as swap. That way > >> you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a > plus, the performance > >> would be way better than disc. > > > > Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the > md system is backed up by > > RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; > why'd you want to access > > RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or > it's backed up by swap, in > > which case you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or > an egg would still > be inferior to an md backed swap. :) > > Regards, > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Actually, you can have file backed swap files. I have done it. However, with more than one swap file, or a swap file and a swap partition on the same disk, there ends up being quite a bit of thrashing. This is due apparently to some interaction between having two swaps on the same disk but that is jut a guess, i dont know what the cause is. The idea behind having swap files is that swap space can more easily be expanded and added on the fly. If your initial swap partition was not big enough it is more easy to more swap in another file. As well, a swap file that can grow and shrink, also would allow you to avoid having a lot of disk space consumed by unused swap, so he disk space is allocated when needed, or allow more space to easily be added if you find out you do not have enough. With applications crashing because of swap partition running out, this would be an important feature, since more swap space can be allocated in a file which is easier to do than a partition. Swap is still important on systems with small amounts of RAM, FreeBSD should be able to run on some older hardware too and should not be like Windows where you have to have 2 GHZ 2 GB of ram to run it. dynamic swap space makes it more versatile which is a good thing ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:21:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1816A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D0113C45B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m18HJaSe090867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:19:39 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <47AC8F9F.3060406@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:21:35 +0000 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:21:42 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > But there are sites (such as this one: > http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using > linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that > possible if the kernel is too old for it? > no idea about /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 which that article talks about, its not in my ports tree. but you can use linux_base-f7 if you set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 however its still a work in progress and wont always work as intended, for example it works fine on my laptop {root@prawn}#pkg_info -Ix linux_base linux_base-f7-7 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) {root@prawn}#sysctl compat.linux.osrelease compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16 and I can use acrobat and other linux binaries, however my desktop at home would not start acrobat reader using compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 and linux_base-f7-7, and I had to go back to linux_base-fc-4_10 and compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2. Vince > Steve > > On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman wrote: >> Steve Franks wrote: >>> [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean >>> ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. >>> >>> ??? >> Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel >> >> I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. >> >> >> Vince >> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:22:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFB516A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB7113C461 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4dbb95fb.pool.einsundeins.de [77.187.149.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D89A44529 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:22:34 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:24:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <484700.62092.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <484700.62092.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802081824.03290.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:22:43 -0000 Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2008 17:54:03 schrieb millueradfa@yahoo.com: > Well, actually, these are file backed swap devices. > You can do both file and memory backed devices. this > allows you to have a swap file on the hard disk and > mount it. As I already wrote in another part of this thread: please explain to me why it should be faster to have a file backed md set up as swap than a dedicated swap partition (because there's at least two more levels of indirection involved). I can clearly see the need for file backed swap in special cases (for example, where you need RAM desperately, for example for a compile, but cannot add another partition to a system), but no matter what, it will never be faster than a swap partition. And that was what the original poster of this sub-thread suggested (and as such, I took it that he was referring to memory-backed mds, because file-backed mds are never faster than "raw" access to a hard-disk). So, I still stand by my first assessment: the idea to use an md as swap is stupid, at least from a performance standpoint. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:25:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C1D16A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C0C13C4DB for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m18HNq8I090938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:23:54 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <47AC90A0.7050706@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:25:52 +0000 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8F9F.3060406@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <47AC8F9F.3060406@unsane.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:25:58 -0000 Vince Hoffman wrote: > Steve Franks wrote: >> But there are sites (such as this one: >> http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using >> linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that >> possible if the kernel is too old for it? >> > > no idea about /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 which that article talks > about, its not in my ports tree. but you can use linux_base-f7 if you > set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 Sorry to answer myself here, but Just looked and it seems /usr/port/emulators/linux_base-8 was the redhat 8 port (ie ancient) and has been removed.(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/linux_base-8/Attic/Makefile) > however its still a work in progress and wont always work as intended, > for example it works fine on my laptop > {root@prawn}#pkg_info -Ix linux_base > linux_base-f7-7 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for > i386/amd64) > {root@prawn}#sysctl compat.linux.osrelease > compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16 > > and I can use acrobat and other linux binaries, however my desktop at > home would not start acrobat reader using compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 > and linux_base-f7-7, and I had to go back to linux_base-fc-4_10 and > compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2. > > > Vince > >> Steve >> >> On Feb 8, 2008 9:42 AM, Vince Hoffman wrote: >>> Steve Franks wrote: >>>> [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean >>>> ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. >>>> *** Error code 1 >>>> >>>> Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. >>>> >>>> ??? >>> Theres work in progress to update the binary compatibility. >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel >>> >>> I would imagine the linux_base-f7 is useful for testing. >>> >>> >>> Vince >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Steve >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:26:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B4E16A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D58C13C467 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m18HQXnr022759; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:26:33 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, stevefranks@ieee.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:26:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802081826.33017.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Vince Hoffman Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:26:42 -0000 On Friday 08 February 2008, Steve Franks wrote: > But there are sites (such as this one: > http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using > linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that > possible if the kernel is too old for it? You can "upgrade" the kernel by setting compat.linux.osrelease to 2.6.16. Note that there are still some issues with that version. Look here http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel for more information. > > Steve -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:35:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B2216A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118D413C459 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CA89628430; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:35:09 -0500 (EST) To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> <47AC8689.8050605@unsane.co.uk> <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:35:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802080904kd7cfc5j62d9025b3818c711@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Fri\, 8 Feb 2008 10\:04\:20 -0700") Message-ID: <44ir0z5p2q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Vince Hoffman , User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:35:11 -0000 "Steve Franks" writes: > But there are sites (such as this one: > http://www.linux.com/feature/53055) that talk about actually using > linux_base-fc8 (which I can't even find on 7.0rc1). How is that > possible if the kernel is too old for it? That was linux_base-8, not linux_base-fc8. Very different thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:39:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B6016A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from smtp6.versatel.nl (smtp6.versatel.nl [62.58.50.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A85513C469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23077 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2008 17:40:31 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (HELO Rena.FStaals.net) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp6.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 8 Feb 2008 17:40:31 -0000 Message-ID: <47AC935C.7060909@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:37:32 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071224) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@fledge.watson.org References: <47A3720D.1080702@gmx.net> <47AA08E8.1020502@gmx.net> <20080206193916.GA20244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080206144920.G12870@fledge.watson.org> <47AB4985.7040607@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47AB4985.7040607@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , FreeBSD Subject: Re: buildworld releng7 exterme performance loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:39:36 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > doug@safeport.com wrote: > > As suggested I turned on all.log and also captured the output from > vmstat -i and top -S as 2 others suggested. From the all.log output I > don't seem to see anything out of the ordinary if I compare it to a > snapshot of all.log on my working environment but maybe I am looking > for the wrong thing ? The same applies for the output of top -S. > vmstat's output may be more interesting though. In both cases I the > information was taken just after boot with a login on tty0 and 1 > remote session. vmstat shows the amount of interrupts for my network > interfaces are a lot higher with todays build compared to my working > env from 3 weeks ago. There is one difference though: I did a rm -rf > /usr/obj/* through ssh on the todays build. Could that be the reason > for the difference or did I find the source of the problem ? > > info : > > all.log > todays build : http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.2008.07.02.1140 > working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/all.log.stable > > top -S output (links so the output is still properly formatted ) > todays build: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top > working env: http://fstaals.net/junk/rena/top_stable > > vmstat -i on todays build: > frank@Rena# cat /root/vmstat > interrupt total rate > irq1: atkbd0 610 2 > irq9: acpi0 1 0 > irq12: psm0 6 0 > irq14: ata0 58 0 > irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 151862 706 > irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 > irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 > irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 8 0 > irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 > cpu0: timer 179565 835 > cpu1: timer 169770 789 > Total 501888 2334 > > frank@Rena# cat /root/vmstat_stable > interrupt total rate > irq1: atkbd0 130 1 > irq9: acpi0 1 0 > irq14: ata0 58 0 > irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 3544 44 > irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 > irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 1 0 > irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 7 0 > irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 > cpu0: timer 155701 1946 > cpu1: timer 145928 1824 > Total 305377 3817 > > > to see if the values from vmstat were normal I tried a couple things again. I once more recompiled the latest sources and disabled my wpi wlan interface (since if the vmstat value was incorrect the most obvious reason would have been something with wpi I thought. ). Unfortunately that didn't help much. Second I again cleared /usr/obj/ through an ssh session. The vmstat value for bge0 (my LAN interface) was >160 000. Lastly I recompiled my normal sources again and removed /usr/obj/* again through ssh. Allthough the number of interrupts is still quite big it is only half of the amount it shows with todays sources. So now I am once again lost on what to do to determine the cause of my problem: frank@Rena# vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 1898 2 irq9: acpi0 1 0 irq12: psm0 84 0 irq14: ata0 58 0 irq17: wpi0 bge0+ 83570 110 irq19: cbb0+ 2 0 irq20: uhci0 uhci+ 3 0 irq21: pcm0 uhci1+ 2217 2 irq22: ehci0 uhci4 5 0 cpu0: timer 1484618 1956 cpu1: timer 1474830 1943 Total 3047286 4014 Anyone ideas ? -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:41:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DAE16A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C8613C4CE for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m18Hc6i2036034; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:38:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m18Hc6TW036033; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:38:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:38:06 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "millueradfa@yahoo.com" Message-ID: <20080208173806.GA35988@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> <229884.2551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <229884.2551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:41:35 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:16:52AM -0800, millueradfa@yahoo.com wrote: > > --- "Jason C. Wells" wrote: > > > Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb > > Jason C. Wells: > > >> Norberto Meijome wrote: > > >>> But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to > > use swap files? > > >> One could mount an md filesystem and then use > > that as swap. That way > > >> you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a > > plus, the performance > > >> would be way better than disc. > > > > > > Ahem, sorry, that's just plain stupid. Either the > > md system is backed up by > > > RAM (in which case you don't need the swap anyway; > > why'd you want to access > > > RAM by putting it in a swap on an md in RAM?), or > > it's backed up by swap, in > > > which case you have a chicken and egg problem. > > > > Mmm, yes. That is quite a pickle. But a chicken or > > an egg would still > > be inferior to an md backed swap. :) > > > > Regards, > > Jason > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Actually, you can have file backed swap files. I have > done it. However, with more than one swap file, or a > swap file and a swap partition on the same disk, there > ends up being quite a bit of thrashing. This is due > apparently to some interaction between having two > swaps on the same disk but that is jut a guess, i dont > know what the cause is. > > The idea behind having swap files is that swap space > can more easily be expanded and added on the fly. If > your initial swap partition was not big enough it is > more easy to more swap in another file. As well, a > swap file that can grow and shrink, also would allow > you to avoid having a lot of disk space consumed by > unused swap, so he disk space is allocated when > needed, or allow more space to easily be added if you > find out you do not have enough. > > With applications crashing because of swap partition > running out, this would be an important feature, since > more swap space can be allocated in a file which is > easier to do than a partition. > > Swap is still important on systems with small amounts > of RAM, FreeBSD should be able to run on some older > hardware too and should not be like Windows where you > have to have 2 GHZ 2 GB of ram to run it. dynamic swap > space makes it more versatile which is a good thing > The question here is not whether to have swap, but to have md as swap. It seems like that would cause more problems with speed and probably thrashing that just plain swap partitions on disk. Now, the abiliity to use a file as additional swap can be important because it will allow you to add some swap in a pinch without reconfiguring your disk or adding disk - which a larger or additional swap partition would require. But, a swap file is not something you want to run with as a matter of course. You want a swap partition. Writing and reading a swap partition is optimized for that in a way that writing to a file system cannot easily be optimized. At least that's what my mom told me. ////jerry > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 17:49:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AB916A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD8513C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.1] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JNXLo-000GXw-AX; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:49:24 +0300 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:49:04 +0300 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802080825u29ab4635h5519a19cab8ffe65@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Fri\, 8 Feb 2008 09\:25\:26 -0700") Message-ID: <28999615@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: why does linux-base-f7 exist if the binary compatibility is to a kernel too old to run it? (and how to change that?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:49:26 -0000 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:25:26 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: > [steve@fyre /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7]$ sudo make install clean > ===> linux_base-f7-7 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7. > ??? Besides all other suggestions I'd like to add that /usr/ports/UPDATING has some additional info. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 18:00:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5347416A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC0813C46B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 19.38-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.245.38.19]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2008 18:50:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:47:03 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080208174703.GA17127@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: portupgrade xorg-server fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:00:37 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to portupgrade xorg-server but it crashes. Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and xorg-server-1.4_3,1 Initially I ran portupgrade -R xorg-server, it crashed, then I tried as explained in UPDATING 20070519 During the upgrade, I get the following error. xvmc.c: In function `ProcXvMCGetDRInfo': xvmc.c:574: error: syntax error before "rep" xvmc.c:583: error: syntax error before '*' token xvmc.c:584: error: `xvmcGetDRInfoReq' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:584: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xvmc.c:584: error: for each function it appears in.) xvmc.c:587: error: `stuff' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:595: error: `rep' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c:634: error: `xvmcGetDRInfoReply' undeclared (first use in this function) xvmc.c: At top level: xvmc.c:657: warning: excess elements in array initializer xvmc.c:657: warning: (near initialization for `ProcXvMCVector') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/work/xorg-server-1.4/Xext. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server/work/xorg-server-1.4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.16695.13 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=xorg-server-1.4_3,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.4_3,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-servers/xorg-server (xorg-server-1.4_3,1) (compiler error) ---> Packages processed: 1 done, 13 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed What do I need to do to upgrade xorg-server? Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 18:13:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F7416A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdragan@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D92213C43E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdragan@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so543108waf.3 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n3eSLa1V9mheO8fmlb5S1cFir9vfSo8wEw1peXHszLE=; b=j3KjUcayet28VbKWVJzl5ejHvHpzEj6+VyR5i6CzphFuY9+ATBs6XsztkxJ7I7FJwOf9C3lFOln7v6PdXYTlicYd6iVh2ndBL5KihiYYKGxNYJ3S0CgsBq+QxB7E9OW+T237YC+nxyrCL2kNtwyOod6ylAj0Dn3mVXSD4rSemEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T/ARExqyBluXnul3gJ7fexx+O2z0vu7pr8yLLprt2wKAHouVLbxv/hQVhLsc5DZ9OVq/am4nGseBUSOM5qhuKs4MdZ3MW5XqEGPK4v6784QKTOkZUsWHGcCUfcsRKeChKG/TQahdXF6Qsh3TIjIX88LByJMKnO53xLjAzKfFmE8= Received: by 10.114.88.1 with SMTP id l1mr7636796wab.79.1202494414736; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.2.206? ( [87.116.146.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm1060368nfh.38.2008.02.08.10.13.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AC9BC7.4070806@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:13:27 +0100 From: Dragan Jovelic User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AAFBE8.7080307@gmail.com> <200802071412.26884.wundram@beenic.net> <47AB1993.70507@gmail.com> <200802071551.00599.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200802071551.00599.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Strange apache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:13:37 -0000 Below is output of ps aux. Regarding apache configuration, nothing is changed there, just installed "as-is" from ports, only included one httpd-vhosts file with number of VirtualHost directives. $ ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 11 92.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL Sat05PM 6598:00.73 [idle: cpu0] root 10 89.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL Sat05PM 6498:48.95 [idle: cpu1] www 92653 0.2 0.6 21960 12280 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.22 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92636 0.2 0.6 21976 12304 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.08 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92652 0.1 0.6 21932 12264 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.14 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92634 0.1 0.6 21948 12272 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? WLs Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swapper] root 1 0.0 0.0 772 260 ?? ILs Sat05PM 0:01.31 /sbin/init -s root 2 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:13.33 [g_event] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 6:21.41 [g_up] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 5:49.45 [g_down] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [thread taskq] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [kqueue taskq] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_0] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_1] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [acpi_task_2] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 5:30.04 [swi4: clock sio] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi3: vm] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 6:53.81 [swi1: net] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 1:20.99 [yarrow] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi6: Giant taskq] root 17 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi5: +] root 18 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi2: cambio] root 19 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.44 [swi6: task queue] root 20 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq9: acpi0] root 21 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 14:30.38 [irq19: ohci0 ohci*] root 22 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb0] root 23 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [usbtask] root 24 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb1] root 25 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 11:40.54 [irq18: em0 uhci1] root 26 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq17: fwohci0+] root 27 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb2] root 28 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb3] root 29 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [usb4] root 30 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq14: ata0] root 31 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq15: ata1] root 32 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.02 [irq1: atkbd0] root 33 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [swi0: sio] root 34 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:01.33 [fdc0] root 35 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [irq7: ppc0] root 36 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:06.14 [pagedaemon] root 37 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] root 38 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 8:44.87 [pagezero] root 39 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:24.66 [bufdaemon] root 40 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 8:40.45 [syncer] root 41 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:33.43 [vnlru] root 42 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:08.23 [softdepflush] root 43 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? DL Sat05PM 0:21.53 [schedcpu] root 168 0.0 0.0 1252 620 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i root 567 0.0 0.0 528 284 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.00 /sbin/devd root 611 0.0 0.0 1376 832 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:01.24 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s root 740 0.0 0.1 3524 1796 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:02.76 /usr/sbin/sshd root 746 0.0 0.1 3484 2180 ?? Ss Sat05PM 0:06.31 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) smmsp 750 0.0 0.1 3384 1924 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.12 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (s root 756 0.0 0.0 1388 836 ?? Is Sat05PM 0:00.84 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 25914 0.0 0.6 21452 11520 ?? Ss Sun06PM 3:43.98 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start root 89210 0.0 0.1 6276 2576 ?? Is 3:03PM 0:00.03 sshd: editor [priv] (sshd) editor 89213 0.0 0.1 6252 2596 ?? I 3:04PM 0:00.22 sshd: editor@ttyp0 (sshd) root 91833 0.0 0.1 6276 2588 ?? Is 4:21PM 0:00.03 sshd: editor [priv] (sshd) editor 91836 0.0 0.1 6252 2604 ?? S 4:21PM 0:00.03 sshd: editor@ttyp1 (sshd) www 92576 0.0 0.6 21960 12292 ?? S 4:43PM 0:00.29 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92605 0.0 0.6 21956 12284 ?? S 4:44PM 0:00.19 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92608 0.0 0.6 21980 12312 ?? S 4:44PM 0:00.24 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92612 0.0 0.6 21948 12280 ?? S 4:45PM 0:00.22 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92615 0.0 0.6 21976 12304 ?? S 4:45PM 0:00.25 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92616 0.0 0.6 21968 12300 ?? S 4:45PM 0:00.17 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92621 0.0 0.6 21960 12288 ?? S 4:45PM 0:00.20 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92628 0.0 0.6 21996 12328 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.35 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92633 0.0 0.6 21976 12300 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92637 0.0 0.6 21972 12304 ?? S 4:46PM 0:00.17 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92648 0.0 0.6 21956 12264 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.07 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92649 0.0 0.6 21960 12272 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92651 0.0 0.6 21948 12276 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.11 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92655 0.0 0.6 21960 12268 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92659 0.0 0.6 21976 12308 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92660 0.0 0.6 21948 12244 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92661 0.0 0.6 21972 12280 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92662 0.0 0.6 21964 12280 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.10 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92663 0.0 0.6 21948 12268 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92667 0.0 0.6 21956 12272 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.10 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92672 0.0 0.6 21932 12172 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92673 0.0 0.6 21956 12288 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.14 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92675 0.0 0.6 21924 12228 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start www 92676 0.0 0.6 21948 12268 ?? S 4:47PM 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -k start root 797 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v0 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 798 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v1 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 799 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v2 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 800 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v3 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 801 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v4 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 802 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v5 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 803 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v6 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 804 0.0 0.0 1344 748 v7 Is+ Sat05PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 editor 89214 0.0 0.1 3248 1892 p0 Is+ 3:04PM 0:00.07 -bash (bash) editor 91837 0.0 0.1 3236 1896 p1 Ss 4:21PM 0:00.01 -bash (bash) editor 92679 0.0 0.0 1500 832 p1 R+ 4:47PM 0:00.00 ps -aux mysql 25889 0.0 0.1 1728 1076 p2- I Sun06PM 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --defaults-extra-file=/var/ mysql 25909 0.0 1.9 58448 38964 p2- S Sun06PM 665:52.17 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/mysql/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 18:21:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF8416A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C8313C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2807D405478; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:22:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AC9D9D.8010104@bsdforen.de> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:21:17 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devanand SP References: <559446.52619.qm@web45110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <559446.52619.qm@web45110.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find CPU IDLE Percentage on SMP (Dual processor Host) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:21:20 -0000 Devanand SP wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am using a FreeBSD version 4.11 for running my BIND. I am in a need of setting up an audit for the CPU Utilization on my resolvers and have a query about finding the CPU IDLE percentage on a DUAL processor hosts. As the BIND binary uses only the first processor, the second CPU most of the time not used by BIND. So in this case the in built system utilities like top or sar does average the CPU IDLE percentage by adding up the First CPU's IDLE % + Second CPU's IDLE % /2. This in turn will give me a wrong result. So can someone suggest me on how I can get the right CPU IDLE %? > > Thanks. top -S will list the idle processes for each CPU separately. I hope this is a valid statement for 4.x. I am not certain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 18:36:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677F616A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD513C455 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2876398rvb.43 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:36:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=M/Lwa7c3g5iXEsTJPBI61z/zWKgZTBl0MAZAV+9lDWU=; b=X3oth1fXz8Qdsy1M3m0m4qCCp4aOrHzzlb3NOR/U92uDHs3jcwVGKq4JPXLa5LCcFUbUdXYoh0JqE/Ucdg1QMkabdxK91g+MUygMFINXmw+7z8J8mYKb9+IezzrIkkuOLbXp7UtaIjDUByuhQCiW9cXbXWQD8odeAfE+ZrsK0qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Rft1Vs7SAdCpEjfEcMMLR+BVYfVGyHuXyNOy6C55K1MK01DonoCaMvR2V4MC+nCS+fLhJsLQe+mjpUBeOX+X1z046WBJ4JxaQFW0gtIjkQlhWMQFf46ZR/cRHqcXrl6woa5qa3ZMuGXA8rpKB2IAtKWH5Ys3RZNvy4A9PuJOF6A= Received: by 10.141.142.15 with SMTP id u15mr3416180rvn.66.1202494185744; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.173.14 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:09:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9c2955e10802081009h13e5298coa3d307a5921f7011@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:09:45 +0800 From: "Xinyu Dong" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: The disk memory size restrictions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:36:23 -0000 Hello: RAM disk to root file system. I would like to use in embedded FreeBSD, and the creation of a 64 MB memory disk, and all normal, but 128 MB RAM disk at the time of always automatically restart. Loader in the configuration file, use or use md_image mfs_root? How to resolve this problem, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 18:52:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F8716A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0276A13C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m18IqqgR046054 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:52:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m18Iqp0w046051 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:52:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:52:51 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080208083120.Q1424@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <20080208131809.F12870@fledge.watson.org> References: <20080208083120.Q1424@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:52:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:52:55 -0000 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. >> That's fine. >> >> It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only >> code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same >> brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or >> stupid to fix Linux. >> > don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows > competitor. and it's competing well. I am only responding to two narrow points so I am only responding to the list. I apologize in advance if this is a protocol error. Linux got (and gets?) a boost from law suit over the name "unix" that was in progress around the advent of the BSDs. Linux seems to, at least initially, done a better job of being easier to install. Perhaps in the past even we FreeBSD-ers were willing to cede the desktop to other O/S-s. As a result Linux is probably more competitive with Windows than FreeBSD is as a desktop. I think that has nothing to do with the technical merits of this (or any) discussion. The other point is when FreeBSD starts swapping to any degree, thrashing is not far behind. There is no cure for not having enough memory. Email is not generally an interactive endeavor and can probably tolerate much swapping than running KDE. Actually running KDE on a 128MB system I know this for a absolute fact :) Swapping systems may have performed better when thrashing started because they had lots of controls to say who (or what type of workload) got screwed when memory was scarce. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 19:05:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA86616A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from farnborough.darq.net (fab.darq.net [82.136.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F1D13C469 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9481D0FA for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:06:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at darq.net Received: from farnborough.darq.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (farnborough.darq.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jd7MxU+1QKgt for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:06:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troop.darq.net (hackney.darq.net [78.86.112.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zygis@darq.net) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB9E1D010 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47ACA811.3000104@darq.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:05:53 +0000 From: Jim Bow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:05:56 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: >> I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless >> device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 >> ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I >> haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. > > How about this: > > ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" > block in quick on ext_ifs all > pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state > ... This is nice, but any ideas how to do this if the wireless interface is only present some of the time, ie its a pcmcia card? JimBow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 19:25:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2048E16A417 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54E613C45D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.62]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECD839822; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:25:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ACACB5.5010705@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:25:41 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Bow References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> <47ACA811.3000104@darq.net> In-Reply-To: <47ACA811.3000104@darq.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:25:43 -0000 Jim Bow wrote: > Erik Norgaard wrote: >> How about this: >> >> ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" >> block in quick on ext_ifs all >> pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state >> ... > > This is nice, but any ideas how to do this if the wireless interface > is only present some of the time, ie its a pcmcia card? If the above trick doesn't work, then I don't think there is an easy solution, pf fails loading rulesets when an error is encountered, which AFAIK would happen if an interface is not present. An option could be to load rule sets as part of the interface setup. That means messing with the scripts in /etc/rc.d. If you look in netif, then there is as part of the start() routine, a part that resyncs ipfilter. You can probably copy/paste this to do the same if pf is enabled and add a similar resync command to the pf script. Just some ideas. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 19:43:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E7716A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A8313C442 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986941CC8B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:43:11 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:43:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1153.137.153.0.37.1202210274.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <26921.137.153.0.25.1202463164.squirrel@sm.lkla.org> <47AC4E08.1060801@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <47AC4E08.1060801@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802082043.19282.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: lachlan@lkla.org, Alex Zbyslaw , mark@msapiro.net Subject: Re: Memory Error using Mailman on FreeBSD. How to debug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:43:24 -0000 On Friday 08 February 2008 13:41:44 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Lachlan Michael wrote: > >>Real puzzler. I'm surprised not to have at least one process growing, > >>though. Maybe it's not using much CPU and you're not spotting it. > > > >Following you advice, as far as I can tell, the mailman qrunner process > > > > /usr/local/bin/python2.5 /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner > >--runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s > > > >is the one that crashes: all other mailman processes are unaffected. I > >couldn't see it increase much in size (maybe it went from 8.5M to 12.5M), > >then it just bombed and a new process was spawned (easy to tell by the > >large increase in PID). > > All I can think us that qrunner asks for such a large amount of memory > in one go, that it bombs out without ever growing. That fits with the > ktrace output as well. Regretably, I don't think you can tell *how* > much memory was asked for. (The normal pattern with out of memory > errors is for the process to grow and grown and grow and die; but it's > not the only one). > > >>Other things to try: Up the stack size > >> ulimit -s 262144 > >> > >>inside the mailman startup. Again, I've had processes in the past which > >>needed this. > > > >Ok, I am going to gradually try different limits. It seems as though > > setting kern.maxssiz="256M" > >and so on in /boot/loader.conf will allow me to increase the limits. > >Having to reboot is a pain, though. How far can I go? 512M? (Physical > >memory is 1GB) > > Certainly not more than physical memory :-) To be honest, if 256M > doesn't do it then this probably isn't the problem. I'm not > particularly hopeful that this will do it, but in your circumstance I > would try it. > > At the same time, you could also increase the data size (maxdsiz?) to > 1Gb (yours looks like 0.5Gb, half your physical memory). > > My limit settings (also 1Gb) look like: > > datasize 1048576 kbytes > stacksize 262144 kbytes > > which come from trying to set 256Mb and 1024Mb in the kernel config (old > FreeBSD - no sysctls). > > Keep the ulimit -a in the mailman startup script so you can confirm that > you really get these numbers. > > >>Can you email a file of the size your are > >>trying not through mailman? Maybe your MTA (sendmail/postfix etc) has a > >>limit that somehow causes mailman to get this error. > > > >This is definitely not the case. Users can receive (and send) similar > >sized large attachments individually, so the MTA (sendmail in this case) > >is not the cause. > > OK - rule that out. The ktrace showing qrunner failing a break pretty > much does that too. > > >>The final suggestion is to try to trace (ktrace, strace from ports) the > >>process that is dying, > > > >I'll admit it is my first time to try a ktrace, but after noting which > >process it was that crashed I could identify the newly spawned PID, and > >obtained a ktrace.out (binary) and a kdump (called > >mailman_process_log.txt) when the problems occurs by sending another large > >mail attachment. I'll leave the files up for a couple of days. (Both > >files are about 2MB in size) > > > >http://lachlan.lkla.org/tmp/mailman_memory_error/ > > > >Not that I can properly interpret the results, but it seems the mail file > >is completely read, but whatever happens next causes the memory error. > > > > 52506 python2.5 RET read 354/0x162 > > 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8add000) > > 52506 python2.5 RET break 0 > > 52506 python2.5 CALL break(0x8cc3000) > > 52506 python2.5 RET break -1 errno 12 Cannot allocate memory > > The kdump output is the only useful bit, really. Your analysis seems > correct to me. This looks like classic uninitialized variable to me, as in asking for 5397590320 memory, cause "msgSize" was unset. I'd attach gdb with -p flag and check how much memory it's asking for. If that doesn't work for you, maybe you can find out in the python source where it is asking for this memory and instead of saying "Cannot allocate" make it say "Cannot allocate this many bytes". -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 19:59:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BC416A46B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA62E13C4D1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so1017801anc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=C5cExJxtxuWE0yHSy519DqhHYGJOPypmMcT/5nPE4Fg=; b=PALiUNYc07UB6oZd8dBAFPDk8ajmhfaOYXyZ0jrBEiDBAvjfCgtFVKf3RNwTwGfMw7QoDWnDzT/WI2PvAcqxv94pcWg5qWjDQG818eexmBxKMfzFTedrU6TTslo1Y8c8dSCxeWrXQm16Y6IYg55PE6GxHXh5Xup57f5jaeDg9gE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Tzp/n3Fp5P23peM+9Oda3/ULTdZlzHl5wEcka0LcFfhSBnvUWpZ01N4Z1hxc5EQahpuxx03w/Pg0FyYXu2XCB+6Hihc9qtRIBfZIECb+KIa9rjdd18R+jeuXjVJlNEZylQoOJv6DEL+ZiADMIlKoB5Jf0nuwh7mU8Z4+slHthSk= Received: by 10.100.255.10 with SMTP id c10mr27462677ani.29.1202500764372; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.240.4 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802081159x38fc84aahb3628e3a20d8f587@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 53910172374a6d4f Subject: is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:59:25 -0000 I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid So, am I just missing that .so, or am I running the linux program incorrectly or have I misconfigured. I thought fontconfig was pretty basic, so I am assuming I have it an am missing something else. I've just set up linux compat and already got the kernel module loaded and linprocfs (which was causing another error by it's absence) all working, so I feel I must be getting close! Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:08:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B77616A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748413C4EC for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 30593 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 14:08:06 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 14:08:06 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:06:45 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Subject: PHP - mbstring question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:08:14 -0000 Greetings, I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) are needed by application. How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. -Darryl PHP version 4.4.7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:22:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB68216A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDE613C468 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.77] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JNZk5-000GmF-6i; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:22:37 +0300 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802081159x38fc84aahb3628e3a20d8f587@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:22:24 +0300 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802081159x38fc84aahb3628e3a20d8f587@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Fri\, 8 Feb 2008 12\:59\:24 -0700") Message-ID: <62911311@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:22:39 -0000 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: > I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following > from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: > libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid This is really a FreeBSD library. The linux one should be at "/usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1" and thus may be displayed as "/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1". > So, am I just missing that .so, or am I running the linux program This may help to find out if you have the needed file: ----- % ls -l /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so* ----- If you have this file than there is two possibilities: . either your app needs a new libfontconfig (with new API, 2.6 kernel) then you may try to use linux_base-f7 (has some known issues for now); . or you may have some non-default environment (see /usr/ports/UPDATING for more info on this) which prevents from finding this library before a FreeBSD one -- try to remove non-default environment. > incorrectly or have I misconfigured. I thought fontconfig was pretty > basic, so I am assuming I have it an am missing something else. > I've just set up linux compat and already got the kernel module loaded > and linprocfs (which was causing another error by it's absence) all > working, so I feel I must be getting close! Is this linux application from ports collection? WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:23:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F3B16A468 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE4713C4D3 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 998D46187; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brick.slightlystrange.org (brick.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB98E613A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by brick.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id m18KNFd0002932 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:23:15 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080208202314.GA1141@brick.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 i386 Subject: Re: PHP - mbstring question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:19 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:06:45PM -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > Greetings, > I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. > Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the=20 > freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: >=20 > Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) > are needed by application. >=20 > How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. # cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions # make install Add mutlibyte (MBSTRING) support in the config dialog, and let the install continue.=20 Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHrLoyixf5fBYiFmoRAsEjAJ9d93ZhJS0n3ttsfcEPMo62gZFyRACeKsiR Hmo2hqU3BdrNmePBfyknmP8= =eFHr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:24:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F95A16A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195CE13C4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.77] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1JNZm2-000GmS-Qf; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:24:38 +0300 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802081159x38fc84aahb3628e3a20d8f587@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:24:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802081159x38fc84aahb3628e3a20d8f587@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Fri\, 8 Feb 2008 12\:59\:24 -0700") Message-ID: <96831189@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: is libfontconfig.so part of linux-xorg-libs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:24:40 -0000 On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0700 Steve Franks wrote: > I have the latest linux-xorg-libs installed, but I get the following > from a script kicked off from /compat/linux/bin/sh: > libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid Uh, sorry, I just noticed "subject", here is an answer: ----- % pkg_info -W /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 was installed by package linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 ----- WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:25:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24E516A419 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from kazon.borderworlds.dk (kazon.borderworlds.dk [213.239.213.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDF413C457 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xi@borderworlds.dk) Received: from dominion.borderworlds.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazon.borderworlds.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C87B17020; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by dominion.borderworlds.dk (Postfix, from userid 2000) id E9081495; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:07:10 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> From: Christian Laursen Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:07:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47AB4F00.1080307@gmail.com> (Rek Jed's message of "Thu\, 07 Feb 2008 18\:33\:36 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Rek Jed Subject: Re: pxeboot, TFTP only, NFS MOUNT RPC error: 60, timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:25:32 -0000 Rek Jed writes: > I've been building FreeBSD jumpstart infrastructure and it mostly > works. I'm using tftp to boot off the network in to scripted > sysinstall. I compiled the boot loader with tftp support but every > time I boot it will first try nfs, then timeout after around two > minutes (it cannot find nfs) and finally boot from tftp. Is there any > way that I can make it boot from tftp straight away rather than wait > for nfs to timeout? Try unsetting boot.nfsroot.server and boot.nfsroot.path although I'm not sure that it will avoid the timeout in newer FreeBSD releases. -- Christian Laursen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:29:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35716A41A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from kokanee.rmnanetworks.com (kokanee.rmnanetworks.com [74.52.88.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F213C4D1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from s01060040f472fffe.ed.shawcable.net ([68.149.185.202] helo=rhyandesktop) by kokanee.rmnanetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNZbo-000Jr1-Js for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:14:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c86a8f$293b5140$329bfea9@rhyandesktop> From: "Kieran" To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:14:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kokanee.rmnanetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rmnanetworks.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: PHP - mbstring question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:29:28 -0000 Hi Darry, cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions && make config Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. Best Regards, Kieran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: PHP - mbstring question > Greetings, > I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. > Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the > freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: > > Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) > are needed by application. > > How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. > > -Darryl > > PHP version 4.4.7 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:52:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796F716A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B10D13C45E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 13051 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2008 14:52:08 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 14:52:08 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: "'Kieran'" , In-Reply-To: <000f01c86a8f$293b5140$329bfea9@rhyandesktop> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:50:47 -0600 Message-ID: <9F975317AD39435AB82B478E47487F87@Europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Cc: Subject: RE: PHP - mbstring question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:52:16 -0000 >> Hi Darry, >> cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions && make config >>Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. >>Best Regards, >>Kieran Well, I screwed up when I installed php4-extensions as I missed selecting MBSTRING. So extensions are built and installed. To fix this, do I have do un-install extensions and then rebuild/ install them again ? thanks, Darryl > Greetings, > I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. > Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the > freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: > > Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) > are needed by application. > > How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. > > -Darryl > > PHP version 4.4.7 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 10:06 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 21:43:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BFD16A41B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from kokanee.rmnanetworks.com (kokanee.rmnanetworks.com [74.52.88.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14E113C457 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from s01060040f472fffe.ed.shawcable.net ([68.149.185.202] helo=FWITLAPTOP) by kokanee.rmnanetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNazt-000Ldh-Mz; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <5061540FE0EC453FA9A03A5767E4BF2A@FWITLAPTOP> From: "Kieran" To: , References: <9F975317AD39435AB82B478E47487F87@Europa> In-Reply-To: <9F975317AD39435AB82B478E47487F87@Europa> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:37:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kokanee.rmnanetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rmnanetworks.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: PHP - mbstring question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:43:08 -0000 Hi Darryl, You do not need to uninstall the extensions, simply ensure the directory is clean (make clean) do a make config and select the correct options. You should then do a make install clean. This will allow the installer to not take as long rebuilding extensions which are already installed. **sudo is not needed but is a good practise** $ cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions && sudo make clean && sudo make config Now install the newly configured php4 extensions. $ sudo make install clean Best Regards, Kieran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Hoar" To: "'Kieran'" ; Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: RE: PHP - mbstring question > > >>> Hi Darry, > >>> cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions && make config > >>>Ensure that you select MBSTRING from the list. > >>>Best Regards, > >>>Kieran > > Well, > I screwed up when I installed php4-extensions as I missed > selecting MBSTRING. So extensions are built and installed. > > To fix this, do I have do un-install extensions and then rebuild/ > install them again ? > > thanks, > Darryl > >> Greetings, >> I installed php4 and php4_extensions on my 6.3-release box. >> Tried installing SugarCRM (downloaded from their site as the >> freebsd port is broken). When installing it generates an error: >> >> Functions associated with Multi-byte strings PHP extensions (mbstring) >> are needed by application. >> >> How do I add that ? Any help greatly appreciated. >> >> -Darryl >> >> PHP version 4.4.7 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 > 10:06 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 21:51:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95A616A41B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal4.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:6000:1::66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD8313C46B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id OXH49826; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:51:26 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6EDD24500E; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:51:25 -0800 (PST) To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1202507485_29711P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:51:25 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080208215125.6EDD24500E@ptavv.es.net> X-Sender-IP: 198.128.4.29 X-Sender-Domain: es.net X-Recipent: ;; X-Sender: X-To_Name: X-To_Domain: freebsd.org X-To: questions@freebsd.org X-To_Email: questions@freebsd.org X-To_Alias: questions Cc: flz@freebsd.org Subject: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:51:29 -0000 --==_Exmh_1202507485_29711P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1202507485_29711P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFHrM7dkn3rs5h7N1ERAvSKAJ9QUHqI3gGIcBHmCIEPbcUFK1rHGwCffHzu FQuEcz4qKpkmJ0L04UexmRs= =lFMt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1202507485_29711P-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 21:57:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1B416A468 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8563A13C501 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-84879.home.otenet.gr [87.203.84.221]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m18LvroO027053 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:57:54 +0200 Message-ID: <47ACD061.8000509@otenet.gr> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:57:53 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20080208215125.6EDD24500E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080208215125.6EDD24500E@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:57:57 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: > I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD > NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed > fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. > > After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and > libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after > starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: > # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C > mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device > > I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. > > Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I > really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. > try using the ntfs-3g command directly: ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 22:11:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1761716A418 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-23.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-23.bluehost.com [69.89.21.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C887413C4E1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 8476 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2008 22:11:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2008 22:11:55 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNbRr-00013e-Jn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:11:55 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:11:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:11:54 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080208221154.GB47822@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:11:57 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:53:39PM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >I'm setting up PF on a FreeBSD laptop that sometimes uses the wireless > >device (iwi0) as its external interface, and sometimes uses the RJ-45 > >ethernet device (bge0) as its external interface. Unfortunately, I > >haven't figured out yet how to make that happen. > > How about this: > > ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" > block in quick on ext_ifs all > pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state > ... > > > As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you > shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work. Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing my Google mojo. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 22:32:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5034E16A41A; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B3113C442; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C9240547A; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ACD399.6040208@bsdforen.de> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20080208215125.6EDD24500E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080208215125.6EDD24500E@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:32:33 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: > I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD > NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed > fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. > > After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and > libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after > starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: > # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C > mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device > > I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. > > Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I > really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs This is one of my /etc/fstab entries /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 23:14:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A20416A419; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postoffice4.tagpma.org [IPv6:2001:400:6000:1::66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF9413C465; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id OZW17005; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:14:05 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id B52464500E; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:14:03 -0800 (PST) To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100." <47ACD399.6040208@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1202512443_29711P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:14:03 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080208231403.B52464500E@ptavv.es.net> X-Sender-IP: 198.128.4.29 X-Sender-Domain: es.net X-Recipent: ;;; X-Sender: X-To_Name: Dominic Fandrey X-To_Domain: bsdforen.de X-To: Dominic Fandrey X-To_Email: kamikaze@bsdforen.de X-To_Alias: kamikaze Cc: questions@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:14:09 -0000 --==_Exmh_1202512443_29711P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 > From: Dominic Fandrey > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD > > NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed > > fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. > > > > After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and > > libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after > > starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: > > # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C > > mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device > > > > I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. > > > > Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I > > really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. > > mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of > them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t > (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: > > # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak > # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs > > This is one of my /etc/fstab entries > /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 > Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for a while. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1202512443_29711P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFHrOI7kn3rs5h7N1ERAh1RAJ0c4bIpz1DF8haoPCxXpkf+nAj8MACgul3i JpOo2bbo+p3CE0RuTd7+ai0= =I5g1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1202512443_29711P-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 23:19:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96D916A418; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E74513C45B; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6926640547A; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 00:19:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ACE37E.7000107@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:26 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20080208231403.B52464500E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080208231403.B52464500E@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:19:28 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 >> From: Dominic Fandrey >> >> Kevin Oberman wrote: >>> I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD >>> NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed >>> fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. >>> >>> After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and >>> libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after >>> starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: >>> # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C >>> mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device >>> >>> I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. >>> >>> Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I >>> really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. >> mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of >> them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t >> (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: >> >> # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak >> # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs >> >> This is one of my /etc/fstab entries >> /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 >> > > Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was > installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. > > Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for > a while. Just remember that you have to recreate the link after you do an installworld. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 23:22:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75E316A420 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849A813C45A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:311a:39b7:b367:8f8f] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:311a:39b7:b367:8f8f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D10C4001; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:22:44 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47ACE440.4020909@cran.org.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:22:40 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominic Fandrey References: <73b8a7e50802061545r4a1ac458g350eb4a45274ebe9@mail.gmail.com> <20080207010734.5fceb382@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080207091846.Q22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47AB79F5.4090104@cran.org.uk> <47AB7B22.9040204@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <47AB7B22.9040204@bsdforen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Desktop Performance Tuning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:22:47 -0000 Dominic Fandrey wrote: > Bruce Cran wrote: >> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> disabling SMP, but it didn't help. >>>> >>>> There have been threads on the stable list about jerky mouse >>>> performance, which may be part of this, but I have really followed it >>>> closely. I'm also wondering whether this might be due to some xorg or >>>> other port change from late 2007 that I only noticed when I started >>>> doing a lot of rebuilding under 7-stable. >>>> >>> does it lag when doing disk I/O or just any case? >> >> I think it's disk I/O: even doing a cvsup makes the desktop start >> lagging on my Athlon XP UP system. > > Does setting debug.vfscache=0 make any difference? > Setting debug.vfscache=0 doesn't seem to help. The issue only seems to occur when I'm running the buildworld within a terminal in Xorg. I think it may be a contention issue with the 'nvidia' driver since during certain phases of the buildworld I often see top saying something's waiting on a lock - and I've spotted nvidia0 waiting on Giant a few times. I'll test using the nv driver instead and see if the problem still occurs. -- Bruce -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 00:17:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2674016A420; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 00:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postoffice3.tagpma.org [IPv6:2001:400:14:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B0D13C469; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 00:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=b221f4d0cb79a67adde3323d735a0e6d746f75bd=605=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id PCZ08958; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:16:58 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id CE4D64501C; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:16:57 -0800 (PST) To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:26 +0100." <47ACE37E.7000107@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1202516217_29711P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:16:57 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080209001657.CE4D64501C@ptavv.es.net> X-Sender-IP: 198.128.4.29 X-Sender-Domain: es.net X-Recipent: ;;; X-Sender: X-To_Name: Dominic Fandrey X-To_Domain: bsdforen.de X-To: Dominic Fandrey X-To_Email: kamikaze@bsdforen.de X-To_Alias: kamikaze Cc: questions@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:17:01 -0000 --==_Exmh_1202516217_29711P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:26 +0100 > From: Dominic Fandrey > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 > >> From: Dominic Fandrey > >> > >> Kevin Oberman wrote: > >>> I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD > >>> NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed > >>> fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. > >>> > >>> After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and > >>> libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after > >>> starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: > >>> # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C > >>> mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device > >>> > >>> I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. > >>> > >>> Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I > >>> really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. > >> mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of > >> them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t > >> (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: > >> > >> # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak > >> # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs > >> > >> This is one of my /etc/fstab entries > >> /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 > >> > > > > Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was > > installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. > > > > Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for > > a while. > > Just remember that you have to recreate the link after you do an > installworld. Yes. I already have to do this for other modified stuff. (I install a new world about every other week.) Thanks again, -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1202516217_29711P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFHrPD5kn3rs5h7N1ERAlR/AJ9Amd9vOoUbNei/11iKw4Kavq6N6ACeLmIE Hwx/g0z+3ncM+hmD4jXKCG4= =drJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1202516217_29711P-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 01:12:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC04416A502 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B38513C457 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so3452197wxd.7 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UQpGs0xHM91eFMpIFHBQXKhzFqeeoE2Z526rpDT4fEU=; b=bd+xHxtv4Uv7xJ0/ZCjxvt7s4Y7s4mG2vcfwzaranIBm6/vlQUNfJ9yDYwalu32CqPxTrYHQ9simVH2b+vrYGjV4vYkFziMC5J400JyUsiwBqBycXKm2ndT2tSUgM9/Tx4Z+wZV+dMtHfh+Eco23c5OiH/IP2Jck3BY8AWxUqS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AOlbUQZfRtr7KwNOrF1cTxstPbxh1Mx/6CtJsD2zO9tUjFmwJHWF76D16X6F2Rq4egmaeudoA5Qu1h8NLzJaalB8OUxcHNKgty2YtkFaXTVMvMNLQiA8TxNpmSiZUScTqhdOZPlb9j8kTFnPY2zmtnmOibFdpcvCMs+T1mz3D3U= Received: by 10.70.92.5 with SMTP id p5mr8523287wxb.33.1202519530084; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660802081712i430199f4y5808288bdfd60325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:12:09 -0700 From: Modulok To: "Jeremy Gransden" In-Reply-To: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:12:11 -0000 > what is wrong with gmail? A few interface annoyances, but perhaps nothing. It depends on what you plan on doing with it. For me it's convenient. It's one less thing I have to worry about. > I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your > own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about > email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. You have already instilled trust in countless thousands. Is it a problem? Maybe. It depends on how important one feels the confidentiality of the information is. For Top Secret classified documents, I would not use plain text gmail or any other plain-text service. For online shopping accounts and participating in mailing lists, I do. If one really wants to get paranoid, they had best throw in the towel and crawl under a rock now. "Do not use commercial operating systems, they spy on you." Probably. Is open-source software any different? Maybe, maybe not. There is no reason why it should be trusted any more than its closed-source counterpart. "We can audit the source code." Not really. Most people would be incapable of this feat, for even the simplest of programs. Even for those who possess the technical prowess to accomplish such a feat, do they really have the funding, manpower and time to audit every piece of code they come in contact with? Obviously not, for if they did, programs would not have bugs. Even if one could audit every program they use, what about the libraries on which those programs depend? How about the system calls? What about the compiler? If it has been tainted it would be quite difficult to detect. What about the assemblers? How about the low-level firmware? Once you get all of those bits audited, over the course of the remainder of your natural born lifespan, you'll be faced with the feat of trying to examining the hardware on which the code runs. After all, if the hardware cannot be trusted, all the rest is moot. Security is a very serious business that should not be ignored, but too many people get too concerned over all the wrong aspects and miss the big picture. Trust is relative and required, despite your tools of choice. Even using Linux or BSD, you instill significant trust in a great many people, most of whom you do not even know. What's wrong with gmail? It depends on who you ask. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 02:23:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BED116A41B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2AE13C461 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m192NeIN000999 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 18:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47AD0EB8.7000200@highperformance.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:23:52 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47AB9DA9.8080006@highperformance.net> <229884.2551.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080208173806.GA35988@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080208173806.GA35988@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_40 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:23:43 -0000 Oh good heavens. How do you spell joke in geekish? I spell it "md backed swap." Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 03:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7EF16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0C713C45B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m193tqd1090109; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:55:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "User Questions" Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:57:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:55:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:55:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Steve Franks > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:55 AM > To: User Questions > Subject: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - > fix? > > > I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but > not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the > drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that > causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or > rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there > anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? > I get 100MB of the last GB file. Most annoying. I know you usually > want cp to fail if there's read errors, but this is one instance where > you'd like it to skip and keep going - I assume that's what my dvd > player does. These are not commercial disks, so I can't just go out > and buy a new one, and I was too stupid to make backups, so I have a > vested interest in a workaround. > The newer drives turn the disk faster, so of course there is less time the laser light is shining on the spot where the data is, and if a scratch has damaged that spot then optically the bit is not fully 1 way or fully the other, so the voltage out from the laser's eye is going to be closer to the "undefined" range. What is coming out of the laser's eye is effectively a "dirty" square wave. I think the developers of the faster drives decided to reduce the sampling window that they look for a logic high or a logic low, so they can sample the bit closer to the center of the high or low, and also since the sample time is lower, they make the circuit less tolerant of bits that are a little less "high" or a little less "low" coming out of the laser's eye. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 03:55:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C6A16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11EB13C457 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m193tqd3090109; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mel" , Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:57:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: Andrew Falanga Subject: RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:55:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mel > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:29 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Andrew Falanga > Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages >=20 > Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your=20 > prayers then=20 > most people. I'd pray the disk is still in warranty!! ;-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 04:11:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1523616A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 04:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E7613C43E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 04:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m194AvWt090208; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:11:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Wojciech Puchar" Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:12:37 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080208083120.Q1424@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:11:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, millueradfa@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:11:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: millueradfa@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD > > > > It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. > > That's fine. > > > > It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only > > code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same > > brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or > > stupid to fix Linux. > > > don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows > competitor. and it's competing well. > Ah, something to strive for! :-) Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 05:21:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2871516A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C82C13C457 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNi9S-0007gk-E0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:21:23 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNi9H-0007gC-Fk; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:21:11 -0700 Message-ID: <47AD3842.8070904@math.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:21:06 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, millueradfa@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:21:24 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: millueradfa@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD >> >> >> >>> It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. >>> That's fine. >>> >>> It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only >>> code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same >>> brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or >>> stupid to fix Linux. >>> >>> >> don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows >> competitor. and it's competing well. >> >> > > Ah, something to strive for! :-) > > Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who > would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? > > Ted > __ And I pray to stay that way ;-) . Cheers, Predrag I do not know if it is because of the writers strike in Hollywood or because of the couple recent posts by Ted but I have more laugh reading questions@freebsd.org than watching the Jay Leno show. > _____________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 05:36:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAD16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D113C458 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNhnN-0004YY-OP for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:58:34 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNhnK-0004YF-V3; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:58:31 -0700 Message-ID: <47AD3305.4060100@math.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:58:45 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Cc: Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:36:22 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: millueradfa@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD >> >> >> >>> It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. >>> That's fine. >>> >>> It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only >>> code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same >>> brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or >>> stupid to fix Linux. >>> >>> >> don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows >> competitor. and it's competing well. >> >> > > Ah, something to strive for! :-) > > Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who > would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? > > Ted > And I will pray to stay that way ;-) Predrag P. S. I do not know if it because of the writers strike in Hollywood or because of the last couple posts sent by Ted but I definitely have more laugh reading massages at freebsd.org than watching the Jay Leno show. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 05:45:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDFD16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bestpattyos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEB813C468 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bestpattyos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so1058342anc.13 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:45:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/mMZ7IQbMYP5ipZ9wKTF2bk+NEEFp4gtHG6Oom1hnk=; b=k1l6MNPdBeKIgg8YxXTi1sFLkkCcuSAhU/TQslN8yRfx7+ubNzpQ333xvjg1lPBLwkqDqfj1njHskJiqBYVJY8oypKIu1P3ekDffm87TJozn2cvWgLkfbuus66hGGKjz3OeFk7Efqzpbg0ItV+i3tuiWqU1fuA3KtegqrkzHf38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m4tr5Jb34qdyoKaMTOgEgHU06KVhUzhP59oD+Pou/IB8blXZ4i66YiKMa4Jz3DKh7RvJu6sDxsmhpkwx9zeE/USzMKEOs9gt/0tzqfmflbqDgsuSK4FF9ABCB7RUHq+cHzgqJcvB506vuDseTUD0Gnke8myIhdWbMBLKg+UR2Dc= Received: by 10.100.128.20 with SMTP id a20mr11408315and.31.1202534463726; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [72.218.41.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k77sm12143074rnb.5.2008.02.08.21.21.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:21:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AD383F.2070706@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:21:03 -0500 From: Daniel Tate User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:45:52 -0000 Even though I am relatively new to FreeBSD I have been able to configure most everything flawlessly. There is only one problem that has needed fixing and that is with my wireless adapter from Linksys that use the ral(4) driver. I have tried using ifconfig, yet I get a response saying that ral doesn't exist even though in my kernel I have the appropriate driver. Also when I try dmesg | grep ral0 nothing comes up. After all of this I loaded the driver into my kernel using ndisgen(8) and I got a response saying that there was a binary error. When I do pciconf -lv i get this: none2@pci2:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x00551737 chip=0x03011814 rev= 0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ralink Technology, Corp' class = network I have searched through various forums and even other mail threads but I have found nothing of value. If more information is needed let me know. Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 06:45:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256B116A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CE113C43E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3034217rvb.43 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:45:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=oSqpKO4zDrYtBSWhhv29c5zqjo0rGWFTgNdlili6i3s=; b=YiPRkkfnbU8RvDOdwAaXUcJobBoXuHa5c0hzaSi9GL/dSu7LodK3CfK8Cut0jOBlykhj+z8WYQ89SgJODhdiAFiYnB8IYRC9YzT3ADMKLt8Y0yQZCcBCLhl/LkWnUcJTS7isIpbvc2DhkqVMcifOsO5IQo6QPwk3S7Mqwt2xaUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=F4HiKOfeUDeA2vvoCw7XOfvp5Jyqhob30NIP6cMoY2EYUudGyun/EyU7wEWixG44m0DqNdpgRVleVSBSlO6BPzV8Hbl/H+4UyAsLbb8VwC7gRAP0d1zxDlaQ8EylcHiWljZn4ILoDAZsInX7HwXg20aP3y1aE9VBfM8sIcjNmjM= Received: by 10.141.19.16 with SMTP id w16mr9127634rvi.8.1202539526123; Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.173.14 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:45:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9c2955e10802082245x34f0fd08y5b90f5fb4aa933fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:45:26 +0800 From: "Xinyu Dong" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RAM disk size limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:45:28 -0000 Hello: RAM disk to root file system. I would like to use in embedded FreeBSD, and the creation of a 64 MB memory disk, and all normal, but 128 MB RAM disk at the time of always automatically restart. Loader in the configuration file, use or use md_image mfs_root? How to resolve this problem, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 08:49:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D94D16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCEF13C447 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAO/xrEd5LXE7/2dsb2JhbACBWacw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,326,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="48782712" Received: from ppp121-45-113-59.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.113.59]) by ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2008 19:04:03 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:04:01 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802091904.01935.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: ls time/date format from ftpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:49:21 -0000 The default output from ls in a normal shell on my system is mode links owner group size month day time/year filename corresponding to LANG=C or en_US... For most other locales month and day are swapped, including mine { LANG=en_AU.ISO8859-1 }. When I access my account from another machine via ftp the ls command always reports day before month whether or not I attempt to set the locale. All this suits my sensibilities but it upsets MS Windows. Mounting under windows as a network place MS becomes very confused in trying to interpret directory listings in which the day precedes the maonth. Is there someway to force ftpd to report ls according to the LANG=C default so that I can successfully access through windows. Any ideas please? The FreeBSD system is 6.3-Release and the windows W2K. Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 10:16:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8416A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961313C44B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m19AGF1O096042; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:17:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080208131809.F12870@fledge.watson.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:16:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:16:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > doug@safeport.com > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:53 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD > > > Swapping systems may have performed better when thrashing started > because they > had lots of controls to say who (or what type of workload) got > screwed when > memory was scarce. :-) I think it was more something of the times - back then, it was "Look Ma, the elephant can dance!" Today, it's more along the lines of "which elephant dances the best?" Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 10:38:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E256C16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB0F13C459 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.62]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0229439822 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:38:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AD829E.904@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:38:22 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> <20080208221154.GB47822@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080208221154.GB47822@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:38:25 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: >> How about this: >> >> ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" >> block in quick on ext_ifs all >> pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state >> ... >> >> >> As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you >> shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work. > > Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't > find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing > my Google mojo. how about man pages? ;-) man pf.conf is a really good reference. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 10:44:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E569516A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226D313C458 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m19Ab3P0022831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:37:03 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:44:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.352 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: mv, cp, and sgid on directories (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:44:26 -0000 I think you may be getting too deep into the detail. Think of the bigger picture: when I move a file, I don't expect that to change its ownership or permissions - it would surprise me if it did; when I make a copy of a file, I expect to own the copy - after all, what use is a private copy I can't do anything with? FreeBSD generally tries hard not to behave in a surprising way. The bit that still worries me in this discussion is the sgid bit (pun not intended, but I'm not going to delete it now!): as I understand it, creating a file has different behaviour on SYSV-derived systems and Berkeley-derived systems. SYSV creates files group-owned by the creator's primary group. BSD creates files which inherit the group-ownership of the directory they are created in. SYSV behaviour can be changed to BSD behaviour per-directory, by using the sgid bit on the directory. BSD behaviour can't be changed and the sgid bit on a directory is ignored. Again, could someone confirm whether I'm talking nonsense here? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 10:51:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379B416A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E928813C458 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m19ApMQ2096228; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Daniel Tate" , Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 02:53:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47AD383F.2070706@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:51:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:51:24 -0000 I am sorry Daniel, this is a known bug, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/109227 In src/sys/dev/ral/if_ral_pci.c is: static const struct ral_pci_ident ral_pci_ids[] = { { 0x1814, 0x0201, "Ralink Technology RT2560" }, { 0x1814, 0x0301, "Ralink Technology RT2561S" }, And your pciconf: chip=0x03011814 This would normally force the card to associate with the ral driver. The problem however, which is discussed in a posting here: http://www.bsdforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=44385 seems to be that the card you have is using a special "high output" version of the Ralink chipset which takes different firmware - at least, according to the Linux driver. In looking through the BSD driver it seems to be using the same firmware for all of the cards - perhaps the driver author figured that all of the Ralink chipsets used the same interface? Quite often, manufacturers will release a slightly improved chip and retain the same interface - the new chip will have a different pci ID and many times simply adding the pci ID into the existing driver will get it to work. That is what appears to have been done with this particular driver. Obviously it's not correct. What is likely happening is the wrong microcode is loaded into the card by the driver and the card doesen't boot up, thus the FreeBSD driver gets no response to it's initialization sequence after attachment. I would suggest you add on to the end of the existing PR. You might also e-mail the driver maintainer. The one good thing appears that there's been some activity on this driver in the 7.X series, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/117655 I would also try downloading the 7.0 beta and try loading that, it may work. Perhaps they fixed the driver there. Otherwise, get a different card. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Tate > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:21 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Problems with WMP54G Wireless Adapter > > > Even though I am relatively new to FreeBSD I have been able to configure > most everything flawlessly. > There is only one problem that has needed fixing and that is with my > wireless adapter from Linksys that use the ral(4) driver. > I have tried using ifconfig, yet I get a response saying that ral > doesn't exist even though in my kernel I have the appropriate driver. > Also when I try dmesg | grep ral0 nothing comes up. > After all of this I loaded the driver into my kernel using ndisgen(8) > and I got a response saying that there was a binary error. > When I do pciconf -lv i get this: > > none2@pci2:2:0: class=0x028000 card=0x00551737 chip=0x03011814 rev= 0x00 > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Ralink Technology, Corp' > class = network > > I have searched through various forums and even other mail threads but I > have found nothing of value. > If more information is needed let me know. > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 12:26:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D0C16A421 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050FF13C455 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m19CQnbA009013; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:26:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m19CQnbA009013 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47AD9C09.6020909@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:26:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <200802091244.05538.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200802091244.05538.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:26:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5754/Sat Feb 9 08:47:27 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mv, cp, and sgid on directories (was: cp -p) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:26:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > The bit that still worries me in this discussion is the sgid bit (pun not > intended, but I'm not going to delete it now!): as I understand it, creating > a file has different behaviour on SYSV-derived systems and Berkeley-derived > systems. > > SYSV creates files group-owned by the creator's primary group. > BSD creates files which inherit the group-ownership of the directory they are > created in. > > SYSV behaviour can be changed to BSD behaviour per-directory, by using the > sgid bit on the directory. > BSD behaviour can't be changed and the sgid bit on a directory is ignored. > > Again, could someone confirm whether I'm talking nonsense here? That's pretty much correct. Some SysV-ish systems maintained the concept of a 'current group' which you could switch your login session to, so long as you were a member of the group in question and you knew the group password (if any). Any files you created would have ownership by your current UID and GID. That, incidentally, is why there is a password field in /etc/group at all. It seems to be pretty much of historical interest only nowadays -- personally I have never seen a system where group passwords were ever actually used, and I'm not aware of any utility for manipulating the passwords in /etc/group. Anyhow, BSD-ish systems always had a different take on exactly how group ownership of files and processes should work -- one which didn't depend on the end user consciously remembering to switch current group at the appropriate time. There were various other differences in the way various programs worked in this area. For instance in early versions of SysV it was possible for a mortal user to give files away (ie. chown(1) a file they owned to another user). Needless to say that was pretty quickly recognised for the security hole that it is and nowadays anything Unix-like will follow the POSIX.2 standard where you have to be root to change file ownership. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHrZwJ8Mjk52CukIwRCJU5AKCM29geaM6fSjPs8NmTKWbUvhEfrwCeI0+X FUdibti5cuxquQTDdSETDgA= =oPMJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 04:47:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C788B16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 04:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.vesely@acn.pc.cz) Received: from psi1.forpsi.com (smtpa.forpsi.com [81.2.195.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D92F13C4CC for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 04:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josef.vesely@acn.pc.cz) Received: (qmail 6282 invoked by uid 89); 9 Feb 2008 04:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wxpp) (josef.vesely@acn.pc.cz@208.17.72.162) (de-)crypted with TLSv1: RC4-MD5 [128/128] DN=unknown by psi1 with ESMTPSA; 9 Feb 2008 04:20:36 -0000 From: "Josef Vesely" To: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:25:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Achq087VFXfk7L2/SCW5kjBRFTmuwA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-Id: <20080209044721.2D92F13C4CC@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:40:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:47:22 -0000 Hi, I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org from couple of my real & virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) while I have no problem to access from other computers. >From every computer I can access www.freebsd.cz without any problem. It looks like that your web server do not like these computers for some reason. ?? Do somebody block access to your website ?? I see situation like this first time in my (digital) life. Thank You Josef Vesely ( IT technician ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 13:08:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D13E16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A2B13C45B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946243F615D; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:08:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.73] (ron34-3-82-236-236-194.fbx.proxad.net [82.236.236.194]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176133F6149; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:08:53 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <200802072301.29261.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <86sl07y5fr.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> <200802072301.29261.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:08:49 +0100 To: Mel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices for managing tweaked ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:08:55 -0000 Le 7 f=E9vr. 08 =E0 23:01, Mel a =E9crit : > Hi, > > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 13:05:12 Micha=EBl Gr=FCnewald wrote: > >> I am seeking for a word in advice in how to automatically tweak some >> applications, possibly making packages for them. >> >> > >> The current solution is: I have a post install shell script that =20 >> plugs >> my files into appropriate location. This works but there is two >> drawbacks: > > You're almost there: > - Create a file Makefile.local in the port you need a post-install =20 > shell > script executed with contents: > PKGINSTALL=3D/path/to/mycustomizations.sh > > This will then be packaged in packages as well. > See pkg_create(1) and in particular -i option, as well as grep > _LATE_PKG_ARGS /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > If you wanna do it cleaner, may want to wrap that in: > .if !defined(PKGINSTALL) && !exists(${PKGDIR}/pkg-install) > ... > .else > error: > echo "Omg they killed kenny" > /usr/bin/false > .endif > > So that it errors out, if the port starts providing a post-install =20 > script. Thank you very much for the that tip! It seems that this will fail for scripts that have `postinstall', or =20 more accurately, that changes may have to be versed in this =20 postinstall script, right? --=20 Michi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 13:30:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F90716A41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3EA13C45D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNpmY-0007Vl-6a; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:30:14 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m19DUDw1028760; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:30:13 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 029B8FCAC11; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:30:07 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Roman Otsaljuk Message-ID: <20080209133007.GA96669@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <47AC67F9.30407@upstar.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AC67F9.30407@upstar.com.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:30:13 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inetd + few ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:30:20 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:32:25PM +0200, Roman Otsaljuk wrote: > > how can I specify few ip-addresses inetd listen on? not all. or all > except few? Have a look at hosts_access(5) and hosts_options(5). -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF6A16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl) Received: from solfertje.student.utwente.nl (solfertje.student.utwente.nl [130.89.167.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7032D13C468 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.internal [127.0.0.1]) by solfertje.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 616BB803F for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.236.150.4] (hollewijn.internal [10.236.150.4]) by solfertje.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A8A80B6 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:06:40 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Alban Hertroys Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:31:47 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 9 14:06:45 2008 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 760,47ada565167321710067946 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, Online=2+Type, 0.40000, could, 0.40000, but, 0.40000, but, 0.40000, 4718592, 0.40000, From*Alban, 0.40000, I+tried, 0.40000, I+tried, 0.40000, e, 0.40000, e, 0.40000, pretty+much, 0.40000, 1f+ed, 0.40000, testing)+#, 0.40000, error+means, 0.40000, Mime-Version*Message, 0.40000, Mediasize+1073733632, 0.40000, be+caused, 0.40000, 00+15, 0.40000, 00+15, 0.40000, active+or, 0.40000, having+been, 0.40000, /dev/ad0s1e+(NO, 0.40000, far+that, 0.40000, would+give, 0.40000, partition+/dev/, 0.40000, look+into, 0.40000, be+one, 0.40000 Subject: Bad sector on a gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:03:34 -0000 Hi all, I'm having trouble locating a bad sector on a gstriped file system. Smartd has been nagging about this single bad sector for months now, there don't appear to appear any new ones. It's about time I look into this... I got so far that I know the sector number in the partition involved. I detailed my attempts after the problem description. I tried newfs- ing the filesystem; it's my /tmp - there's nothing of relevance on it, but newfs-ing doesn't seem to have marked the sector bad. Anything wrong with: newfs -U -o time /dev/stripe/tmp ? I performed that from single-user mode after umounting all file-systems. I tried opening the filesystem with fsdb, but it can't open the partition, only the striped file-system - how do I determine which sector I'm dealing with on a striped fs? And how do I write to it to have it marked as a bad sector? I'm not sure whether this error means my disk is at the end of its life, smartd has been spamming me with this single error about the same sector for months now (every half hour!), and it's only the third error in the disks' smart log. If I understand the docs of smartmontools correctly, this could well be caused by the sector not having been written to all this time, which seems plausible to me; it's near the end of a mostly empty /tmp... From the lifetime it appears the disk is nearly two years old already, and it's been on pretty much 24/7. Maybe it is time to replace it (by a server version probably). Time for some data. The disk is an: Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus family Device Model: ST3200822A Serial Number: 3LJ020SJ Firmware Version: 3.01 smartctl says: Error 3 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 18356 hours (764 days + 20 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle . After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 00 30 ed 61 40 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0061ed30 = 6417712 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- 25 00 20 1f ed 61 40 00 15:42:14.650 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 9f e6 61 40 00 15:42:14.419 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 df f1 61 40 00 15:42:14.293 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 5f e6 61 40 00 15:42:14.049 READ DMA EXT 25 00 40 5f e9 61 40 00 15:42:13.795 READ DMA EXT According to fdisk and bsdlabel that's on partition e of slice 1: # fdisk -s /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0: 387621 cyl 16 hd 63 sec Part Start Size Type Flags 1: 63 390716802 0xa5 0x80 So the bad sector is at 6417712 - 63 = 6417649 in /dev/ad0s1. # bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 4194304 524288 swap c: 390716802 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 1048576 4718592 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 e: 1048576 5767168 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 f: 20971520 6815744 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 362929538 27787264 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 So the bad sector is 6417649 - 5767168 = 650481 in partition /dev/ ad0s1e at around 62% of its total size. This is where I started to get lost... I set up partition ad0s1e to be used in /dev/stripe/tmp: # gstripe list tmp Geom name: tmp State: UP Status: Total=2, Online=2 Type: AUTOMATIC Stripesize: 4096 ID: 1982480573 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/tmp Mediasize: 1073733632 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad0s1e Mediasize: 536870912 (512M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 0 2. Name: ad1s1e Mediasize: 536870912 (512M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 1 I tried: (used -r to prevent it marking my FS's dirty while I was testing) # fsdb -r /dev/ad0s1e ** /dev/ad0s1e (NO WRITE) Cannot find file system superblock LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? no fsdb: cannot set up file system `/dev/ad0s1e' Exit 1 and: fsdb -r /dev/stripe/tmp ** /dev/stripe/tmp (NO WRITE) Examining file system `/dev/stripe/tmp' Last Mounted on /tmp current inode: directory I=2 MODE=40777 SIZE=512 BTIME=Feb 9 12:01:18 2008 [0 nsec] MTIME=Feb 9 12:54:41 2008 [0 nsec] CTIME=Feb 9 12:54:41 2008 [0 nsec] ATIME=Feb 9 13:23:07 2008 [0 nsec] OWNER=root GRP=wheel LINKCNT=7 FLAGS=0 BLKCNT=4 GEN=7a46458d fsdb (inum: 2)> I figured the findblk command would give me the inode of the problem area (although there won't be one if there are no files in that sector I think?), but I'm dealing with sectors striped across two disks... I have no idea which "block number" would be appropriate. The disk containing the bad sector is apparently the first in the stripe, that much I gathered. So, how to continue? Regards, Alban Hertroys -- If you can't see the forest for the trees, cut the trees and you'll see there is no forest. !DSPAM:760,47ada565167321710067946! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:22:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7620316A41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com [69.89.18.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5036913C44B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 32362 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2008 14:22:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 14:22:43 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNqbL-0003bb-PP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:22:43 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:22:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:22:42 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080209142242.GA50808@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080208133822.GA46647@demeter.hydra> <47AC5EE3.1010003@locolomo.org> <20080208221154.GB47822@demeter.hydra> <47AD829E.904@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47AD829E.904@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: pf.conf for variable interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:22:44 -0000 On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:38:22AM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >>How about this: > >> > >>ext_ifs = "{" iwi0 bge0 "}" > >>block in quick on ext_ifs all > >>pass out quick on ext_ifs all keep state > >>... > >> > >> > >>As long as you don't need statements like iwi0:network which you > >>shouldn't on an endpoint, then I guess this will work. > > > >Thanks. That looks like the answer I wanted. I don't know why I can't > >find any documentation that offers an example of this. Maybe I'm losing > >my Google mojo. > > how about man pages? ;-) > > man pf.conf is a really good reference. Yeah, I looked through that one. I didn't read every single word, but I spent quite a bit of time on it without finding what I was looking for. The only thing I've found there (now that I know what the solution looks like in advance) that might have given me a clear hint is this line: all_ifs = "{" $ext_if lo0 "}" . . . so thanks for the not-much-help after the fact. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:34:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4507E16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) Received: from studnet.sk (decon.unitra.sk [194.160.208.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A441A13C461 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) Received: from studnet.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by studnet.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m19ELM2r059463 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:21:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) From: "Martin Solar" To: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:21:22 +0100 Message-Id: <20080209141823.M86997@studnet.sk> In-Reply-To: <20080209044721.2D92F13C4CC@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20080209044721.2D92F13C4CC@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 87.244.196.82 (msolar) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5756/Sat Feb 9 13:08:27 2008 on studnet.sk X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:34:52 -0000 > I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org > from > > couple of my real & virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) I have this problem only with Opera browser. Other browsers are working. Which browser are you using ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:36:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B4716A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC8213C442 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so70498wfa.7 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=JCT0thojmy309WhHyTOUApBf2dzdDnteAlpr1bJTzU4=; b=n14MDSsMNNvqWN+kGDSbH7FMrAYScetPLG5eTJP41G4y3lRMUdoVM2BKlOTXPyXkMhYxh26FT8309Osbx6srft1W6Ix8fSuOx7QHIVI7TTF2W2Qiofo4LrH27It3CG41SGU9y1wQ6xP0dHAr5Cv1ShJoRAMp2A1qrT4JVxOE03o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Eac2R/eJ5fYyfcjH9cOmRI7jHLRXAmasDJAMAC2lxxmugpxDsQXC/qun8P9NgnMhs5pmlr7PX1Kq7LZIIw3jw/KBYtacIy0UjECxzpnyW7zPyOi4w5n/3caF/x7Z2OXn/L6SzKqJ+PjTu5lalLGMjWk1U5I8poTyE/eEXAnnG8w= Received: by 10.142.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr3150587wfh.70.1202567815747; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.167.1 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:36:55 -0500 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: should I change to multicore CPU?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:36:56 -0000 Hi, I know that freebsd7 has huge improvement on multi-threading execution. I wonder if I upgrade to 7, would I feel it?? I now own a amd64/3400+, running 6.3. It's just personal use, download files, watch movies, etc. I guess it will be faster on multi-core when I run mencoder to encode movie, but aside from that, will it mike much difference to me?? thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:43:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8D616A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-106.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-106.bluehost.com [69.89.22.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34F7A13C455 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 20114 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2008 14:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 14:43:05 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNqv3-0007Lb-Dp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:43:05 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:43:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:43:04 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080209144304.GC50808@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87f7f4170802061326t217ebeaao600f14b9d01412e6@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660802081712i430199f4y5808288bdfd60325@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038660802081712i430199f4y5808288bdfd60325@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: OT: Whats wrong with gmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:43:06 -0000 On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 06:12:09PM -0700, Modulok wrote: > > > I just cannot bring myself to trust anyone else for email. Running your > > own server on BSD or Linux is so bloody easy, if you're paranoid about > > email for archival, privacy, or other reasons, just run your own server. > > You have already instilled trust in countless thousands. Is it a > problem? Maybe. It depends on how important one feels the > confidentiality of the information is. For Top Secret classified > documents, I would not use plain text gmail or any other plain-text > service. For online shopping accounts and participating in mailing > lists, I do. I'm not sure what you mean by "online shopping accounts", but if it involves receiving passwords in email for accounts that can be used to spend your money, it's probably a bad idea to use unencrypted email. > > If one really wants to get paranoid, they had best throw in the towel > and crawl under a rock now. "Do not use commercial operating systems, > they spy on you." Probably. Is open-source software any different? > Maybe, maybe not. There is no reason why it should be trusted any more > than its closed-source counterpart. "We can audit the source code." > Not really. Most people would be incapable of this feat, for even the > simplest of programs. Even for those who possess the technical prowess > to accomplish such a feat, do they really have the funding, manpower > and time to audit every piece of code they come in contact with? > Obviously not, for if they did, programs would not have bugs. Open source software doesn't just benefit from an individual ability to audit source code -- it benefits from a community ability to audit source code. If *anyone who wants to* can audit the source code, the chances that something wrong with it in the sense of intentionally included spyware will go undetected gets vanishingly small. This, in turn, means that the likelihood of people inserting such code into a reasonably popular open source OS is also vanishingly small. Meanwhile, with a closed source OS, quite the opposite is the case. There's no way for customers to really be entirely sure what's in the source code, generally speaking. This means not only that the kind of spyware-like code we're discussing might not be discovered -- it also means that the vendor can insert such code pretty much with impunity, and all developers may be subject to nondisclosure agreements with regard to such code. > > Even if one could audit every program they use, what about the > libraries on which those programs depend? How about the system calls? > What about the compiler? If it has been tainted it would be quite > difficult to detect. What about the assemblers? How about the > low-level firmware? Once you get all of those bits audited, over the > course of the remainder of your natural born lifespan, you'll be faced > with the feat of trying to examining the hardware on which the code > runs. After all, if the hardware cannot be trusted, all the rest is > moot. You seem to be saying "Since some aspects of security are difficult, we should never worry about any aspects of security at all." > > Security is a very serious business that should not be ignored, but > too many people get too concerned over all the wrong aspects and miss > the big picture. Trust is relative and required, despite your tools of > choice. Even using Linux or BSD, you instill significant trust in a > great many people, most of whom you do not even know. > > What's wrong with gmail? It depends on who you ask. I can agree with that. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Kent Beck: "I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. I just didn't know it would be called Ruby." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 14:55:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17D916A41B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8586B13C46E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:219:b9ff:fe54:f04a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAE7C4001; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:55:32 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47ADBEDF.8040101@cran.org.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:55:27 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Solar References: <20080209044721.2D92F13C4CC@mx1.freebsd.org> <20080209141823.M86997@studnet.sk> In-Reply-To: <20080209141823.M86997@studnet.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Josef Vesely , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:55:35 -0000 Martin Solar wrote: >> I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org >> from >> >> couple of my real & virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) > > I have this problem only with Opera browser. Other browsers are working. > Which browser are you using ? I think there might be an issue with Opera and IPv6: since www.freebsd.org has an IPv6 record it may be trying to use that and failing to fall-back to IPv4 if it can't establish a connection. However if .org fails and .cz works with the same browser then I don't know what the issue could be, since both of those sites use IPv6. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 15:45:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D366F16A41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F17813C4D1 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so5953113pyb.10 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:45:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=xVpJVYdF665lgKgYBI2LpReSExzATQsSdHZDrlI/XsM=; b=fp7mpPlIQZW6zhh/Is9wAKoP1q1EI7X8exsQ+UiUgE7MwBvbkZFrUuq7TybDHLHtIeAinV1AcEa7k5k57SMZw3gzvbRGOElI0IvwxZ7KlqYbktvBeV6mi/1CNduuzhY8QRKsiYSma9XOE6zvRdZtOQ/scf/V1ohm5d06wWtVlJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=D0WbyzSgTCVnVlT/TezAPX5sJRp5TMK1cqR6vo32kW6+QROc7E44QPe5ea+Yk5kcJBHcRpPJKwMPeNkYqkALjdWbEQqKkH1NQzW7z+zpMfQ4n444WiDZSjkwtmbu7esfkWPW16IyiNjYD54y33UjYkLO0TNCDrc2QNbWKCvvEbs= Received: by 10.142.135.9 with SMTP id i9mr7531808wfd.212.1202571942913; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.187.1 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 07:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <582715960802090745y8a4eaewcac6e033f944a21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:45:42 -0500 From: "Eric Mesa" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: How do I get unicode support in python? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:45:44 -0000 Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:06:50 +0100 > From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" > Subject: Re: How do I get unicode support in python? > 0: ordinal not in range(128) > >>> print u"\xfa".encode("latin-1") > =FA > >>> > > HTH! > > -- > Heiko Wundram > Product & Application Development > > > ------------------------------ > > > The .encode solution worked perfectly for me! I am using it for the page you get when you fill out the year here: http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/viet_zodiac_intro.html (right now you have to switch to utf-8, I haven't set it to do that automatically yet) Thanks again! --=20 Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com "Do not worry about those things that are outside of your circle of influence. For since they are outside of your power to control them it is simply a waste of time and energy to dwell on them. Instead, turn your attention to those things that you can control and grow your influence in those areas and you will see the effects begin to trickle out to those item= s that were previously out of your power to influence." =96 Eric Mesa inspire= d by Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 16:14:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680D616A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) Received: from studnet.sk (decon.unitra.sk [194.160.208.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E025F13C45E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) Received: from studnet.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by studnet.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m19GDqW1061844 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:14:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from msolar@studnet.sk) From: "Martin Solar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:13:52 +0100 Message-Id: <20080209160627.M49698@studnet.sk> In-Reply-To: <47ADBEDF.8040101@cran.org.uk> References: <20080209044721.2D92F13C4CC@mx1.freebsd.org> <20080209141823.M86997@studnet.sk> <47ADBEDF.8040101@cran.org.uk> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 87.244.196.82 (msolar) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5758/Sat Feb 9 14:38:02 2008 on studnet.sk X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: JOSEF VESELY; www.freebsd.org access problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:14:05 -0000 On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:55:27 +0000, Bruce Cran wrote > Martin Solar wrote: > >> I have problem access your web www.freebsd.org > >> from > >> > >> couple of my real & virtual computers (VMWARE + WIN XP) > > > > I have this problem only with Opera browser. Other browsers are working. > > Which browser are you using ? > > I think there might be an issue with Opera and IPv6: since > www.freebsd.org has an IPv6 record it may be trying to use that and > failing to fall-back to IPv4 if it can't establish a connection. > However if .org fails and .cz works with the same browser then I > don't know what the issue could be, since both of those sites use IPv6. I know about that issue. For me is also freebsd.cz not working in Opera. For such a pages I am using other browser. MS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 16:28:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5298416A46B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [69.1.254.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0396813C467 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 17088 invoked by uid 89); 9 Feb 2008 16:01:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2008 16:01:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> References: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <59CF73D3-436E-4263-836C-2404A8293504@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:01:53 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:28:37 -0000 Bon dia, Rui (my wife is Brazillian) > That is t he case of economics. In the logic of freesoftware I want > make programs to fill that vacuum. Well, some of it. What I > want to > do are economic model ba sed simulators. I could do it in a > spreadsheet, but I would rather make a n ice application and > make it > available for everyone. For that, both competen cies in the > economics > and computing areas are necessary. I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most platforms. Several reasons: - you will learn good habits - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools - there are some great tutorials and tutorial-like Squeak books - there are dozens of general Smalltalk books available used on Amazon, for a few bucks each. And the people who write Smalltalk books tend to be very smart guys, who will put your feet on the right path. Some are a bit dated and are too oriented towards Smalltalk platforms that no longer exist, but many of the later ones are fine for learning the concepts... I have a whole shelf of Smalltalk books that I bought for a few bucks each. - they have a very helpful mailing list for beginners - beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org. It's a small list, very intimate, few posers, mainly people who genuinely want to help. I'd give myself a good 6 months to a year to learn the basics... you can't rush the first step. Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't get objects), you will have a leg up on them. And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your economic simulations available to anyone on the net. Just my two cents. Brgds: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 16:53:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1857E16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77EC13C448 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m19GncNL040779; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:49:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m19GncNA040778; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:49:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:49:38 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20080209164938.GA40762@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47380.1202383890@clix.pt> <59CF73D3-436E-4263-836C-2404A8293504@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59CF73D3-436E-4263-836C-2404A8293504@identry.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:53:11 -0000 On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:53AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: > Bon dia, Rui (my wife is Brazillian) > > > That is t he case of economics. In the logic of freesoftware I want > > make programs to fill that vacuum. Well, some of it. What I > >want to > > do are economic model ba sed simulators. I could do it in a > > spreadsheet, but I would rather make a n ice application and > >make it > > available for everyone. For that, both competen cies in the > >economics > > and computing areas are necessary. > > I'd suggest looking into a real object oriented language, rather than > a systems programming language like C, or a glue language like Perl. > I personally think Smalltalk is a great language for beginners, > particularly the Squeak version, which is available for free for most > platforms. > > Several reasons: > - you will learn good habits > - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach > - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools Sounds like the main arguments that used to be made for learning Pascal. Might be good, but not subscribed to by very many. ////jerry > - there are some great tutorials and tutorial-like Squeak books > - there are dozens of general Smalltalk books available used on > Amazon, for a few bucks each. And the people who write Smalltalk > books tend to be very smart guys, who will put your feet on the right > path. Some are a bit dated and are too oriented towards Smalltalk > platforms that no longer exist, but many of the later ones are fine > for learning the concepts... I have a whole shelf of Smalltalk books > that I bought for a few bucks each. > - they have a very helpful mailing list for beginners - > beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org. It's a small list, very > intimate, few posers, mainly people who genuinely want to help. > > I'd give myself a good 6 months to a year to learn the basics... you > can't rush the first step. > > Once you get the basic idea behind objects, you might want to branch > out into Ruby, another great object oriented language. All the > concept you learned from Smalltalk will carry right over, and since > many Ruby folk are coming from the procedural world (and really don't > get objects), you will have a leg up on them. > > And Ruby will set you up for using Rails, which is an ideal platform > for deploying web applications, which will allow you to make your > economic simulations available to anyone on the net. > > Just my two cents. > > Brgds: John > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:17:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1362E16A41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E677513C447 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVZ00H0FEPIOH30@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:17:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:17:39 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) Cc: Subject: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:17:48 -0000 Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to "libicui18n.so.36"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:22:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D135C16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9166C13C44B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=37675 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNtPO-0002bp-RW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:34 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4936 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNtPO-0006eB-4z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:34 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 834F53987F; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:22:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from thoth.egypt.nl (thoth.egypt.nl [192.168.13.8]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:31 +0100 Message-ID: <20080209182231.sw3ag5i5w8w4g8sk@www.boosten.org> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:31 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:22:36 -0000 Quoting "E. J. Cerejo" : > Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the > ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see > that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a > better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to > "libicui18n.so.36"? Rebuild evolution. I did the same with tin. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:28:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10AB16A421 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8968C13C45D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so5988950pyb.10 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:28:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7xJ9tEDLujWR0nk8MFyKgEIf+Wsh5GqF4ZVz3lB//Gc=; b=elLxLMtm7QZv/SwqHgfuuASJ+/wmuTU72eYi3/XDnpmp+5wH8WYpT7e8GPa85oWU4ePV7ebp207g8rwHhvlHW6jmIa2XzUC+qbqW/y3iGszmqOhhHT2Q6hVAEVvQStZjZTOT2c2miI3xOGztHsvP0I+eRlVFqJvi9HtHA38tudM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pWq+QPxG42O6SI8vnCBUzSXM9lqGMwmfvwHhQ7OL5s1hrXP/n2TxLU1iRYL2P6nBByClmZ/bqSa/8Gd3PjmIByRll9pbaXPb2RxOv6cpGCYE3rHI9HexWTmCqbbPCbL0LSAgPnr1WGQR6zW5diF+HiuWhlrrwkfX7xunVxFiPkc= Received: by 10.142.115.10 with SMTP id n10mr7575514wfc.95.1202578096101; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.195.2 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:28:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0802090928x64417b6t5916223d1ee3fe23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:28:16 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "E. J. Cerejo" In-Reply-To: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:28:20 -0000 On Feb 9, 2008 12:17 PM, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the > ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see > that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a > better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to > "libicui18n.so.36"? I ran into this myself. The best thing to do is rebuild all the ports that depend on the icu port: portupgrade -fr icu-3.8.1 That should rebuild all the things linking against libicui18n.so.36 and re-link them against the new libicu. You could also do this manually with a small shell script to ldd things in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/bin and identify things linked against the old library and then use pkg_which to find which packages they belong to, and portupgrade/re-install those. Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:29:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD4F16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4328713C4DB for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m19HTG1g041746; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:29:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m19HTG1g041746 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5760/Sat Feb 9 16:38:42 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:29:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the > ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see > that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a > better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to > "libicui18n.so.36"? Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. Formally, the correct fix is: # portupgrade -rf icu-\* or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time compiling. Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some security problems. See http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHreLs8Mjk52CukIwRCMzAAJ9QwaKZ7ee0UziRHHQrgozal//OOwCfQIWz UlPwgn3phXf8dFtS4HMNPVo= =q3sG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:41:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A4616A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8146613C4F5 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JVZ00J1MFTXVF00@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:41:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:41:53 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200802091241.53761.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Organization: Home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:41:58 -0000 On Saturday 09 February 2008 12:29:16 Matthew Seaman wrote: > E. J. Cerejo wrote: > > Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the > > ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > > "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see > > that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a > > better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to > > "libicui18n.so.36"? > > Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the > wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, > and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. > > Formally, the correct fix is: > > # portupgrade -rf icu-\* > > or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. > > However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that > a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time > compiling. > > Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some > security problems. See > > http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 > http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 > > http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thanks for the answer but there's no way that I'm going to do that, it's just too many apps, pkg_info tells me this: Information for icu-3.8.1: Required by: ORBit2-2.14.12 abiword-gnome-2.4.6_3 alacarte-0.11.3_2 amarok-1.4.8 arts-1.5.8,1 at-spi-1.20.1 atk-1.20.0 avahi-0.6.22 avahi-app-0.6.22_1 bug-buddy-2.20.1 cairomm-1.2.4_1 ccsm-0.6.0 compiz-0.6.2 compiz-fusion-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0 compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0 compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.6.0_1 compizconfig-python-0.6.0.1 dasher-4.6.1,1 dbus-glib-0.74 deskbar-applet-2.20.3 desktop-file-utils-0.14 eel-2.20.0 ekiga-2.0.11_1 emerald-0.5.2_1 enchant-1.3.0 eog-2.20.4 epiphany-2.20.3 evince-2.20.2 evolution-2.12.3 evolution-data-server-1.12.3_1 evolution-exchange-2.12.3 evolution-webcal-2.12.0 fast-user-switch-applet-2.20.0 file-roller-2.20.3,1 firefox-2.0.0.11_1,1 ftpcube-0.5.1_1 gail-1.20.2 gamin-0.1.9 gcalctool-5.20.2_1,2 gconf-editor-2.20.0,1 gconf2-2.20.1 gdm-2.20.3 gedit-2.20.4 gftp-2.0.18_6 gimp-2.4.3,2 gimp-app-2.4.3,1 gimp-gutenprint-5.1.3_2 gimp-help-0.12 gkrellm-2.3.1_1 glib-2.14.6 glibmm-2.14.2,1 gmime-2.2.15 gmime-sharp-2.2.15 gnash-0.8.1_1 gnome-applets-2.20.1 gnome-control-center-2.20.3 gnome-desktop-2.20.3 gnome-games-2.20.3 gnome-games-extra-data-2.20.0 gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0_1 gnome-keyring-2.20.3 gnome-keyring-manager-2.20.0 gnome-mag-0.14.10 gnome-media-2.20.1 gnome-menus-2.20.3 gnome-mount-0.6_4 gnome-netstatus-2.12.1_4 gnome-nettool-2.20.0,1 gnome-panel-2.20.3 gnome-power-manager-2.20.2 gnome-session-2.20.3 gnome-sharp-2.16.0_4 gnome-speech-0.4.18 gnome-spell-1.0.8 gnome-system-monitor-2.20.2 gnome-system-tools-2.20.0 gnome-terminal-2.18.4 gnome-themes-2.20.2 gnome-themes-extras-2.20_1 gnome-utils-2.20.0.1,1 gnome-vfs-2.20.1 gnome-volume-manager-2.17.0_8 gnome2-2.20.2 gok-1.3.7,1 grip-3.2.0_15 gstreamer-0.10.15 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.3 gstreamer-plugins-0.10.15,3 gstreamer-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.5_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-core-0.10_9 gstreamer-plugins-dts-0.10.5_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-dvd-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-esound-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-flac-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-gconf-0.10.6_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.6,3 gstreamer-plugins-hal-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-mad-0.10.6_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.10.0 gstreamer-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-ogg-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-pango-0.10.15_2,3 gstreamer-plugins-theora-0.10.15_4,3 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.6_1,3 gstreamer-plugins-vorbis-0.10.15_3,3 gstreamer-plugins-xvid-0.10.5_1,3 gtk-2.12.7 gtk-engines2-2.12.2 gtk-sharp-2.10.2_1 gtkhtml3-3.16.3 gtkmm-2.12.4 gtksourceview-1.8.5_2 gtksourceview2-2.0.2 gtkspell-2.0.11_5 gucharmap-gnome-1.10.2 gutenprint-base-5.1.3_1 hal-0.5.8.20080203 k3b-1.0.4 kde-windeco-crystal-1.0.4 kde-windeco-neos-0.2b_4 kdeaccessibility-3.5.8 kdeartwork-3.5.8 kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde-3.5.8 kdebase-3.5.8_1 kdebase-kompmgr-3.5.8 kdeedu-3.5.8 kdegames-3.5.8 kdegraphics-3.5.8_1 kdegraphics-kamera-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kooka-3.5.8 kdegraphics-kuickshow-3.5.8 kdelibs-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-3.5.8 kdemultimedia-xine_artsplugin-3.5.8 kdenetwork-3.5.8 kdepim-3.5.8 kdetoys-3.5.8 kdeutils-3.5.8 koffice-1.6.3_3,2 libIDL-0.8.10 libafterimage-1.15_1 libbonobo-2.20.4 libbonoboui-2.20.0 libcroco-0.6.1 libgail-gnome-1.20.0 libglade2-2.6.2 libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1 libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 libgnomekbd-2.20.0 libgnomeprint-2.18.3 libgnomeprintui-2.18.2 libgnomeui-2.20.1.1 libgpod-0.6.0 libgsf-1.14.7 libgtkhtml-2.11.1 libgtop-2.20.1 libnotify-0.4.4_1 liboobs-2.20.0 libopensync-0.22_1 libpurple-2.3.1_1 librsvg2-2.20.0 libsexy-0.1.11 libsoup-2.2.104 libwnck-2.20.3 libwpd-0.8.9_1 libxine-1.1.10_1 libxklavier-3.3_1,1 libxml++-2.20.0 linc-1.0.3_6 linux-flashplugin-7.0r73 metacity-2.20.2 mono-1.2.5.1 monodoc-1.2.5 mplayer-0.99.11_1 nautilus-2.20.0 nautilus-cd-burner-2.20.0_1 notification-daemon-0.3.7_1 nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5 nvidia-settings-1.0_12 nvu-1.0_6 openoffice.org-2.3.1_1 orca-2.20.3 pango-1.18.4 pidgin-2.3.1 policykit-0.1.20060514_4 poppler-gtk-0.6.4 py25-dbus-0.82.4 py25-gnome-2.20.1 py25-gnome-desktop-2.20.0 py25-gobject-2.14.1 py25-gtk-2.12.1 py25-orbit-2.14.3 py25-wxPython-common-2.6.3.3_1 py25-wxPython-unicode-2.6.3.3_1 sdl-1.2.11_2,2 seahorse-2.20.3 shared-mime-info-0.23 sound-juicer-2.20.1 system-tools-backends-2.4.1 tomboy-0.8.0_1 totem-2.20.3 tracker-0.6.2_2 ubuntulooks-0.9.12_3 vino-2.20.1 vlc-0.8.6.d,2 vte-0.16.12 wv-1.2.4_1 wv2-0.2.3_1 wxgtk2-2.6.3_5 wxgtk2-common-2.6.3_3 wxgtk2-common-2.8.5 wxgtk2-contrib-2.6.3_2 wxgtk2-contrib-common-2.6.3_2 wxgtk2-unicode-2.6.3_4 wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.5 wxgtk2-unicode-contrib-2.6.3_2 xcdroast-0.98.a.15_8 xchat-2.8.4_4 xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.2_1 xf86-input-mouse-1.2.3 xf86-video-nv-2.1.7 xf86-video-radeonhd-1.1.0 xf86-video-vga-4.1.0_1 xorg-7.3_1 xorg-drivers-7.3_1 xorg-protos-7.3 xorg-server-1.4_4,1 xscreensaver-gnome-4.24_6 yelp-2.20.0 zenity-2.20.1 I'll symlink it for now even if that represents some security problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 17:48:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB1B16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from n9a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com (n9a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D509913C4F9 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p9_gkvye@yahoo.com) Received: from [217.12.4.215] by n9.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:48:42 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by t2.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:48:42 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.166] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:48:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2008 17:48:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 360054.94647.bm@omp501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 36303 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2008 17:48:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=S155h3akW7OlZ+lEZerQXPyezFqClTwsHJz2otPBGaiKFKIYczSoVAfWTyM7NmwkNUYmKVB6CaWwNoARMD3yeGcJPQVLon9eCVZtBUxuycDsSrOKQmRSuXWK03zZ+eUZc7EE9OdlllQvimbRlveo1ZBmbGrLh3W6Z9GUYuNgiSE=; X-YMail-OSG: tSnvQEQVM1lYL1_jgVFTXwGfsq95qCv3N5VeYXSxRrDrX8dZCx9stYWGzsDFUFfTjg-- Received: from [70.145.2.230] by web45111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:48:42 PST Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: p9_gkvye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <149319.6698.qm@web45111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: openoffice.org-2.4.20080109 pkg working on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:48:44 -0000 There have been comments about problems with openoffice freezing when saving or opening files. It appears to involve language/locale stuff. For me, the following seems to work with the 2.4 package (perhaps not with 2.3.1_1) on 6.3-RELEASE. 1. As root, edit /etc/login.conf to set your system language. Mine is now: # diff /etc/login.conf.0 /etc/login.conf 45c45,46 < :umask=022: --- > :umask=022:\ > :lang=en_US.UTF-8: 2. As root, update the login.conf.db: # cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf 3. Log out and log in again. # echo $LANG en_US.UTF-8 4. As root, force openoffice to use your language (the -f seems critical): # openoffice.org-SRC680_m242-setofficelang -a -f en-US (Note that's en-US, not en_US.) (The user who's going to run openoffice might need to do the same thing. It also might help, if problems persist, to remove/rename your ~/.openoffice.org2 directory and start fresh.) Good luck. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 18:03:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B1516A41B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107EF13C4F6 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428CC40548D; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:02:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ADEAD2.2030803@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:02:58 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org, "E. J. Cerejo" Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:03:01 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > E. J. Cerejo wrote: >> Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the >> ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object >> "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see >> that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a >> better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to >> "libicui18n.so.36"? > > Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the > wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, > and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. > > Formally, the correct fix is: > > # portupgrade -rf icu-\* > > or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. > > However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that > a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time > compiling. The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts installs a script called pkg_libchk that will list you all ports that /really/ need to be rebuild. Many of the ports depending on icu-\* do so indirectly by linking to a library that links to icu, thus it is sufficent to rebuild those directly linking ports. pkg_libchk checks for such direct dependencies and will list you the affected ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 18:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8816A421 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5402B13C43E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m19I8LHZ088928; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:08:22 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m19I8LHZ088928 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47ADEC15.1060600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:08:21 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "E. J. Cerejo" References: <47ADE033.7070402@optonline.net> <47ADE2EC.2030906@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200802091241.53761.ejcerejo@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <200802091241.53761.ejcerejo@optonline.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:08:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5760/Sat Feb 9 16:38:42 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libicui18n.so.36 not found, required by "evolution" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:08:54 -0000 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > On Saturday 09 February 2008 12:29:16 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> E. J. Cerejo wrote: >>> Running FBSD 6.3 and after updating the ports where icu was one of the >>> ports to be updated I'm getting the libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object >>> "libicui18n.so.36" not found, required by "evolution" error, I can see >>> that the new version of icu installed "libicui18n.so.38". Is there a >>> better way to fix this or should I just symlink "libicui18n.so.38" to >>> "libicui18n.so.36"? >> Nope. Symlinking shlibs of different ABI versions together is the >> wrong answer. There's a reason the ABI version number was bumped, >> and it indicates the new shlib is not compatible with the old one. >> >> Formally, the correct fix is: >> >> # portupgrade -rf icu-\* >> >> or the equivalent in whatever ports management software you prefer. >> >> However this is pretty unfortunate as icu is a basic component that >> a large number of packages depend upon. Expect to spend a long time >> compiling. >> >> Oh, and it's a good idea to update as the latest icu fixes some >> security problems. See >> >> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4770 >> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4771 >> >> http://secunia.com/advisories/28575/ >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew > > Thanks for the answer but there's no way that I'm going to do that, it's just > too many apps, pkg_info tells me this: > > Information for icu-3.8.1: > > Required by: > ORBit2-2.14.12 > abiword-gnome-2.4.6_3 > alacarte-0.11.3_2 > amarok-1.4.8 > arts-1.5.8,1 > at-spi-1.20.1 > atk-1.20.0 > avahi-0.6.22 > avahi-app-0.6.22_1 > bug-buddy-2.20.1 > cairomm-1.2.4_1 > ccsm-0.6.0 > compiz-0.6.2 > compiz-fusion-0.6.0 > compiz-fusion-plugins-extra-0.6.0 > compiz-fusion-plugins-main-0.6.0 > compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.6.0_1 > compizconfig-python-0.6.0.1 > dasher-4.6.1,1 > dbus-glib-0.74 > deskbar-applet-2.20.3 > desktop-file-utils-0.14 > eel-2.20.0 > ekiga-2.0.11_1 > emerald-0.5.2_1 > enchant-1.3.0 > eog-2.20.4 > epiphany-2.20.3 > evince-2.20.2 > evolution-2.12.3 > evolution-data-server-1.12.3_1 > evolution-exchange-2.12.3 > evolution-webcal-2.12.0 > fast-user-switch-applet-2.20.0 > file-roller-2.20.3,1 > firefox-2.0.0.11_1,1 > ftpcube-0.5.1_1 > gail-1.20.2 > gamin-0.1.9 > gcalctool-5.20.2_1,2 > gconf-editor-2.20.0,1 > gconf2-2.20.1 > gdm-2.20.3 > gedit-2.20.4 > gftp-2.0.18_6 > gimp-2.4.3,2 > gimp-app-2.4.3,1 > gimp-gutenprint-5.1.3_2 > gimp-help-0.12 > gkrellm-2.3.1_1 > glib-2.14.6 > glibmm-2.14.2,1 > gmime-2.2.15 > gmime-sharp-2.2.15 > gnash-0.8.1_1 > gnome-applets-2.20.1 > gnome-control-center-2.20.3 > gnome-desktop-2.20.3 > gnome-games-2.20.3 > gnome-games-extra-data-2.20.0 > gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0_1 > gnome-keyring-2.20.3 > gnome-keyring-manager-2.20.0 > gnome-mag-0.14.10 > gnome-media-2.20.1 > gnome-menus-2.20.3 > gnome-mount-0.6_4 > gnome-netstatus-2.12.1_4 > gnome-nettool-2.20.0,1 > gnome-panel-2.20.3 > gnome-power-manager-2.20.2 > gnome-session-2.20.3 > gnome-sharp-2.16.0_4 > gnome-speech-0.4.18 > gnome-spell-1.0.8 > gnome-system-monitor-2.20.2 > gnome-system-tools-2.20.0 > gnome-terminal-2.18.4 > gnome-themes-2.20.2 > gnome-themes-extras-2.20_1 > gnome-utils-2.20.0.1,1 > gnome-vfs-2.20.1 > gnome-volume-manager-2.17.0_8 > gnome2-2.20.2 > gok-1.3.7,1 > grip-3.2.0_15 > gstreamer-0.10.15 > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.3 > gstreamer-plugins-0.10.15,3 > gstreamer-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.5_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.15_3,3 > gstreamer-plugins-core-0.10_9 > gstreamer-plugins-dts-0.10.5_3,3 > gstreamer-plugins-dvd-0.10.6_1,3 > gstreamer-plugins-esound-0.10.6_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-flac-0.10.6_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-gconf-0.10.6_4,3 > gstreamer-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.15_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.6,3 > gstreamer-plugins-hal-0.10.6_1,3 > gstreamer-plugins-libpng-0.10.6_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-mad-0.10.6_3,3 > gstreamer-plugins-mp3-0.10.0 > gstreamer-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-ogg-0.10.15_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-pango-0.10.15_2,3 > gstreamer-plugins-theora-0.10.15_4,3 > gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.6_1,3 > gstreamer-plugins-vorbis-0.10.15_3,3 > gstreamer-plugins-xvid-0.10.5_1,3 > gtk-2.12.7 > gtk-engines2-2.12.2 > gtk-sharp-2.10.2_1 > gtkhtml3-3.16.3 > gtkmm-2.12.4 > gtksourceview-1.8.5_2 > gtksourceview2-2.0.2 > gtkspell-2.0.11_5 > gucharmap-gnome-1.10.2 > gutenprint-base-5.1.3_1 > hal-0.5.8.20080203 > k3b-1.0.4 > kde-windeco-crystal-1.0.4 > kde-windeco-neos-0.2b_4 > kdeaccessibility-3.5.8 > kdeartwork-3.5.8 > kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde-3.5.8 > kdebase-3.5.8_1 > kdebase-kompmgr-3.5.8 > kdeedu-3.5.8 > kdegames-3.5.8 > kdegraphics-3.5.8_1 > kdegraphics-kamera-3.5.8 > kdegraphics-kooka-3.5.8 > kdegraphics-kuickshow-3.5.8 > kdelibs-3.5.8 > kdemultimedia-3.5.8 > kdemultimedia-xine_artsplugin-3.5.8 > kdenetwork-3.5.8 > kdepim-3.5.8 > kdetoys-3.5.8 > kdeutils-3.5.8 > koffice-1.6.3_3,2 > libIDL-0.8.10 > libafterimage-1.15_1 > libbonobo-2.20.4 > libbonoboui-2.20.0 > libcroco-0.6.1 > libgail-gnome-1.20.0 > libglade2-2.6.2 > libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 > libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1 > libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 > libgnomekbd-2.20.0 > libgnomeprint-2.18.3 > libgnomeprintui-2.18.2 > libgnomeui-2.20.1.1 > libgpod-0.6.0 > libgsf-1.14.7 > libgtkhtml-2.11.1 > libgtop-2.20.1 > libnotify-0.4.4_1 > liboobs-2.20.0 > libopensync-0.22_1 > libpurple-2.3.1_1 > librsvg2-2.20.0 > libsexy-0.1.11 > libsoup-2.2.104 > libwnck-2.20.3 > libwpd-0.8.9_1 > libxine-1.1.10_1 > libxklavier-3.3_1,1 > libxml++-2.20.0 > linc-1.0.3_6 > linux-flashplugin-7.0r73 > metacity-2.20.2 > mono-1.2.5.1 > monodoc-1.2.5 > mplayer-0.99.11_1 > nautilus-2.20.0 > nautilus-cd-burner-2.20.0_1 > notification-daemon-0.3.7_1 > nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.5 > nvidia-settings-1.0_12 > nvu-1.0_6 > openoffice.org-2.3.1_1 > orca-2.20.3 > pango-1.18.4 > pidgin-2.3.1 > policykit-0.1.20060514_4 > poppler-gtk-0.6.4 > py25-dbus-0.82.4 > py25-gnome-2.20.1 > py25-gnome-desktop-2.20.0 > py25-gobject-2.14.1 > py25-gtk-2.12.1 > py25-orbit-2.14.3 > py25-wxPython-common-2.6.3.3_1 > py25-wxPython-unicode-2.6.3.3_1 > sdl-1.2.11_2,2 > seahorse-2.20.3 > shared-mime-info-0.23 > sound-juicer-2.20.1 > system-tools-backends-2.4.1 > tomboy-0.8.0_1 > totem-2.20.3 > tracker-0.6.2_2 > ubuntulooks-0.9.12_3 > vino-2.20.1 > vlc-0.8.6.d,2 > vte-0.16.12 > wv-1.2.4_1 > wv2-0.2.3_1 > wxgtk2-2.6.3_5 > wxgtk2-common-2.6.3_3 > wxgtk2-common-2.8.5 > wxgtk2-contrib-2.6.3_2 > wxgtk2-contrib-common-2.6.3_2 > wxgtk2-unicode-2.6.3_4 > wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.5 > wxgtk2-unicode-contrib-2.6.3_2 > xcdroast-0.98.a.15_8 > xchat-2.8.4_4 > xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.2_1 > xf86-input-mouse-1.2.3 > xf86-video-nv-2.1.7 > xf86-video-radeonhd-1.1.0 > xf86-video-vga-4.1.0_1 > xorg-7.3_1 > xorg-drivers-7.3_1 > xorg-protos-7.3 > xorg-server-1.4_4,1 > xscreensaver-gnome-4.24_6 > yelp-2.20.0 > zenity-2.20.1 > > I'll symlink it for now even if that represents some security problems. Seems the ability to correctly deal with Unicode text is pretty fundamental nowadays. I do wonder though if *all* of those apps or shlibs link against libicu directly, of if it is possible to just update some intermediate library which most of the above link against and that in its turn links against libicu. Hmmmm... Unfortunately none of the existing ports management tools could tell you that. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 18:10:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560AB16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S6=ff01d73b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F7813C461 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+S6=ff01d73b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20099163F80 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7176223E49B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:45:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:45:16 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080209174516.7f82a967@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802070549r71731883t9d606a2e62f67d4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802070549r71731883t9d606a2e62f67d4d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:10:22 -0000 On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 "navneet Upadhyay" wrote: > Hi, > After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at > startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* > *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how > can i do that.* Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 18:15:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067C516A469 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [69.1.254.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE62413C457 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 35162 invoked by uid 89); 9 Feb 2008 18:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2008 18:14:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <959D1B61-1FD1-49FE-96C2-45E16D5D8DC9@identry.com> References: <7BD505BF-CFE6-4017-B90F-87668627C2EC@identry.com> From: John Almberg Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:14:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: Three wishes of a wannabe developer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:15:00 -0000 >> Several reasons: >> - you will learn good habits >> - you will, by necessity, learn and object oriented approach >> - Squeak is a great learning tool, with excellent debugging tools > > Sounds like the main arguments that used to be made for learning > Pascal. > > Might be good, but not subscribed to by very many. > Actually, I did learn Pascal in University :-) A great language for learning structured programming. But that was then (the 70s). We also learned VAX assembler, which is more to my point: Because I learned VAX assembler first, it was easier for me to learn C, which practically mapped directly to the VAX instruction set. Knowing that C was nothing more than a glorified assembler kept me from making the serious mistakes that people who thought C was a high- level language, made. My argument for Smalltalk is the same: If you learn Smalltalk first, then other OO languages will make a lot more sense, and you'll better understand the quirks of OO-tolerant languages, like C++ and Perl. I'm also assuming that Rui's main goals are not vocational. That is, he's not trying to learn a language to earn a living. I'm guessing he's hoping to learn something new, to get his ideas out there, and to have a bit of fun. Smalltalk is easy to learn, and fun. However, there are lots of ways to skin this cat... this is just my opinion. -- John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Websites for On-line Collectible Dealers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Identry, LLC John Almberg (631) 546-5079 jalmberg@identry.com www.identry.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 18:22:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247AC16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B2613C442 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m19IMdpF062752; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:22:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m19IMdpF062752 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47ADEF6F.3050305@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802070549r71731883t9d606a2e62f67d4d@mail.gmail.com> <20080209174516.7f82a967@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080209174516.7f82a967@gumby.homeunix.com.> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5760/Sat Feb 9 16:38:42 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:22:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 RW wrote: > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 > "navneet Upadhyay" wrote: > >> Hi, >> After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at >> startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* >> *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how >> can i do that.* > > Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it > in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. No need to force it to have a .sh extension in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ nowadays. In fact, rather the contrary as a .sh extension causes the script to be run in the context of the rc process rather than in a sub-shell. In FreeBSD 6.2+ /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ is totally integrated with /etc/rc.d and treated exactly the same. The system re-runs rcorder over both of those directories once it has got to the stage of mounting all the critical filesystems. So you can have 3rd party software and schedule it to be started up earlier than some components of the base system if necessary. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHre9u8Mjk52CukIwRCA8GAJwILJQ5CmouTDbcLL0aK6BQFza6BgCeNHMI ErzMpScJU0pMKJTNNdvzA2c= =BFq8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:02:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860BE16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECAE13C4D5 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136CB405488; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:02:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47ADF8D8.8060306@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:02:48 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <1563a4fd0802060609j59451879h3920be790d7667c0@mail.gmail.com> <47A9FB98.4020907@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802070549r71731883t9d606a2e62f67d4d@mail.gmail.com> <20080209174516.7f82a967@gumby.homeunix.com.> <47ADEF6F.3050305@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <47ADEF6F.3050305@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to be executed on system startup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:02:51 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > RW wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:19:48 +0530 >> "navneet Upadhyay" wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> After putting my script to /etc/rc.d , it gets executed at >>> startup and the parameter passed to the script is *faststart .* >>> *I want the same script to be executed when system shuts down , how >>> can i do that.* >> Don't put it in /etc/rc.d/, give it a .sh extension and put it >> in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It will then get stop/start arguments. > > No need to force it to have a .sh extension in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > nowadays. In fact, rather the contrary as a .sh extension causes the > script to be run in the context of the rc process rather than in a > sub-shell. Though undocumented, this statement is not valid for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The scripts there are /always/ run in a sub-shell, no matter their ending. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:13:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B269F16A420 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [209.98.56.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3A413C502 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from [192.168.1.152] (unknown [192.168.1.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: swb) by accord.grasslake.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40709FD020 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:13:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <47ADFB65.707@grasslake.net> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:13:41 -0600 From: Shawn Barnhart Organization: Managed Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:13:41 -0000 I know this is a major nuisance, but I can't remember how I dealt with it in the past. My most recent stab at using ntpd with minpoll 4 polling of a local ntp time source isn't working, the clock drift prevents any sync from happening (but I'll admit not trying some of the more aggressive time adjustment options to ntpd). VMWare's documentation and support leans pretty heavily toward Linux and I'm not finding a decent recommendation from them. I rebuilding a kernel with options HZ=100 to see if that makes a difference, not sure why I remember that helping, but any other strategies known to work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:28:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C878516A421 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B44D13C478 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=48339 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNvNA-0000Jt-2y; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:28:24 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4918 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNvN9-0001vy-AA; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:28:23 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 8FF1C3987F; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:28:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from thoth.egypt.nl (thoth.egypt.nl [192.168.13.8]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:28:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20080209202822.om3ysati0c4owoc4@www.boosten.org> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:28:22 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: Shawn Barnhart References: <47ADFB65.707@grasslake.net> In-Reply-To: <47ADFB65.707@grasslake.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:28:26 -0000 Quoting Shawn Barnhart : > I know this is a major nuisance, but I can't remember how I dealt with > it in the past. My most recent stab at using ntpd with minpoll 4 > polling of a local ntp time source isn't working, the clock drift > prevents any sync from happening (but I'll admit not trying some of the > more aggressive time adjustment options to ntpd). > > VMWare's documentation and support leans pretty heavily toward Linux > and I'm not finding a decent recommendation from them. > > I rebuilding a kernel with options HZ=100 to see if that makes a > difference, not sure why I remember that helping, but any other > strategies known to work? In my /boot/loader.conf: kern.hz="100" In the vmx-file: tools.synctime = "TRUE" I installed the vmware tools and ntpd That's about all. ntpdate -d 192.168.23.15: 9 Feb 20:26:47 ntpdate[45172]: adjust time server 192.168.23.15 offset 0.057667 sec Cheers, Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:35:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9B716A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [209.98.56.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9955B13C474 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from [192.168.1.152] (unknown [192.168.1.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: swb) by accord.grasslake.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90A1FD020 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:35:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <47AE0079.2070804@grasslake.net> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:35:21 -0600 From: Shawn Barnhart Organization: Managed Chaos User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <47ADFB65.707@grasslake.net> <20080209202822.om3ysati0c4owoc4@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <20080209202822.om3ysati0c4owoc4@www.boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:35:25 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > In my /boot/loader.conf: > > kern.hz="100" I rebuilt the kernel with options HZ=100 and this seems to "fix" it -- ntpd sync'd immediately and the clock does not appear to drift. When you installed the tools, did they require X to be operational? I'm not planning on running X. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:36:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1A16A478 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from filter2-tmobile.zx.nl (filter2-tmobile.zx.nl [194.187.76.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1CB13C442 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filter2-tmobile.zx.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC371C7322; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:36:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zx.nl Received: from filter2-tmobile.zx.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (filter2.zx.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10127) with ESMTP id 5DI5NWXFpTff; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:36:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [91.141.237.46]) by filter2-tmobile.zx.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:36:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AE00BD.6090407@student.utwente.nl> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:36:29 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unlock /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:36:43 -0000 Andreas Davour wrote: > I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with > a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 > file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is > busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? Perhaps esd (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) might help here. Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 19:41:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C1B16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A71713C458 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=56870 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNvZM-0002Va-KI; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:41:00 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4924 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNvZL-00060A-CD; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:41:00 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 0423D3987F; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:40:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from thoth.egypt.nl (thoth.egypt.nl [192.168.13.8]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:40:58 +0100 Message-ID: <20080209204058.kyeval461wssk4kk@www.boosten.org> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:40:58 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: Shawn Barnhart References: <47ADFB65.707@grasslake.net> <20080209202822.om3ysati0c4owoc4@www.boosten.org> <47AE0079.2070804@grasslake.net> In-Reply-To: <47AE0079.2070804@grasslake.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Clock stabilization in VMWare hosted machines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:41:01 -0000 Quoting Shawn Barnhart : > When you installed the tools, did they require X to be operational? > I'm not planning on running X. > Neither am I, so no X here. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 20:10:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D9916A420 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.213.67.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3D413C4F6 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [172.16.100.24]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6121C24; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([172.16.100.24]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [172.16.100.24]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jegTMyi10R1P; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nexus.bsdlan.org (a213-22-25-165.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.25.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5171BF8; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <47AE08AB.8020201@barafranca.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:10:19 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Unlock /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:10:50 -0000 Andreas Davour wrote: > > I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running > with a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a > mp3 file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp > is busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? > > I use KDE if that matters. > > /andreas > dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 20:12:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B3D16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6717513C448 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC89405BA5; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:12:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47AE091D.3020108@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:12:13 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unlock /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:12:15 -0000 Andreas Davour wrote: > > I have begin to find it annoying that when I have a Firefox running with > a page with a youtube link it it, I can't at the same time play a mp3 > file with mplayer. When I try I get an error saying that /dev/dsp is > busy. Is there a way to make it play me some music anyway? > > I use KDE if that matters. > > /andreas > You want to read chapter 7.2.3 of the handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 20:50:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CFA16A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail42.e.nsc.no (mail42.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA3213C4CC for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.177.240] (062016177240.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.177.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail42.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m19KoYfZ018925 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:50:38 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <47AE11A8.8070606@netscape.net> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:48:40 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:50:41 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who > would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? I do wish people would not be "happy" about missing users. Being rid of all the "morons" means that we are also rid of proper attention from companies like Adobe and Nvidia. Some of us see that as a drawback. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 21:49:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD1816A41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278B613C45B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so6070962pyb.10 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:49:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ZrkgV4NEmfex/g690kOt6dPrVyhmQiBibCn8AppeKrE=; b=CsKvkY7RVg/WO6vmgiZlIaPOe3gpJbLXhU3o3qrjt/6MNoQRpfzspWXfIe5JxogS0PoW0ZC+cj4iIoV3INtNRbNMArlUoacDWZXgOGTnOuX8EJZW9EUEtExOLWCODJ6dw+BqJeP1Lt6emhOX43AboUJjB7Uv2RdLof35XrvxL0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Xcn0wP8c1JLx0H8Ljd3JR8zWwOvF80EqE+vXKukuDvm1OjPVCxD5KgunCTRTjuYwkjRa1pl1WpbfxynoG0Ht4y8XHYqEiJ6EdnSfuFiLblRkl5ZMLBqVVvBYmyzvNP2MdDdUEO3z+nnhrz+3pnZBRQ04J9eZ9VVTgcTVFJMHNjE= Received: by 10.35.86.12 with SMTP id o12mr15916458pyl.27.1202593794562; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2sm45507339pyb.27.2008.02.09.13.49.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:49:48 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <55836b724f9f2f7d35654d7e7c477717@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:51:18 -0600 To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:49:57 -0000 Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much risk of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a generic debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the partitions for "disk optimization" and still have the ease of use of a single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 21:57:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FB916A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B0713C45D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JNxgt-0002GG-DA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:56:55 +0000 Received: from 78-1-124-159.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.124.159]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:56:55 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-124-159.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:56:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:56:47 +0100 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6112050D82EC02B4EEBD8D53" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-124-159.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news Subject: Re: should I change to multicore CPU?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:57:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6112050D82EC02B4EEBD8D53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I know that freebsd7 has huge improvement on multi-threading > execution. I wonder if I upgrade to 7, would I feel it?? I now own a > amd64/3400+, running 6.3. It's just personal use, download files, > watch movies, etc. I guess it will be faster on multi-core when I run > mencoder to encode movie, but aside from that, will it mike much > difference to me?? thank you!! No, if you don't need any of the new features in 7.x, you won't feel a=20 difference for the described operations. You don't have enough CPUs or=20 enough programs that do multithreading operations together with IO to=20 notice any difference at all. Some people say they can feel the difference in desktop applications=20 because of the new ULE scheduler, but I very much doubt it, probably a=20 psychological thing :) --------------enig6112050D82EC02B4EEBD8D53 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHriGfldnAQVacBcgRAnscAKDJapr/08JmKPRCK4mLIrpXu2Q1cQCgxyTH yNt5/A1GBucmFnQYOZFsNMg= =0GAf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6112050D82EC02B4EEBD8D53-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:05:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF5116A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0435513C4D1 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m19M1oWe042060; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:01:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m19M1ocu042059; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:01:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:01:50 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Joshua Isom Message-ID: <20080209220150.GC41847@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <55836b724f9f2f7d35654d7e7c477717@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55836b724f9f2f7d35654d7e7c477717@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:05:23 -0000 On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having > several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most > Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, > when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to > create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated You can do this alrady. Just move some directory tree in to the large space and create a synlink. I do it often. ////jerry > amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from > running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, > but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted > filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much risk > of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just > have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be > good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, > especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a generic > debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). > > The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the > partitions for "disk optimization" and still have the ease of use of a > single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. > > Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:08:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5BC16A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0A13C455 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3190197rvb.43 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:08:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=afa8em6IB3+inVJepzYrsHfo3vSmJz1pUnZ26q0ZYPg=; b=KUNfc/UpAXuv3VA6W6pquABsXQPaOjHL6rCBL8Qv6zhHhvXrhYntffNV33BLduc4Ccc+fkxlByp3vY8RAKnJVVS7IsYAXCoqtSb9LTTIWivW4kSZy4kOuBU03XEsQGgv/+Y6sNDuhQrBOkmqFqPPU+jogaWqKJryYYr5jfcoLR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P5fwV1BuJ6jwLxpqXoIg3YFi0ex4jy7+QVsglxOOUj+t7nJECwtAwiTtxmMBTjkdxkzyuEr3Baup0I4DW23cxd+sQRu7ZP7ANKG+1REsuc3zy+W+v+GNNTmdZZDhlswGdr9SMn1XndrVPAlp6/KT2pU+2NzcVQaK8Yn0nzLkVdY= Received: by 10.141.206.13 with SMTP id i13mr5718163rvq.100.1202594925350; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pclmills.lanl.gov ( [69.254.137.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm8251994rva.20.2008.02.09.14.08.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:08:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:08:58 -0700 From: James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: US ftp mirrors down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:08:47 -0000 Hi folks, I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some issues. ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have src-all, a bunch of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. Could someone check that behaviour for me? Thanks James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:14:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12B816A417 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EFE13C47E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so6078071pyb.10 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:14:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=bpgxn7GFbbRqtdBKHS6UDhIWUOHr/wqOW4y2CLXGVjY=; b=xD4WFw4YQfaYu93G3jiE1s1ipjwljvVbMVAYGx17P5A50lQsrGNmbAiGC18WfS6J8tM3CHbcKNkHw3Z5i3hu05iahqYA7gr7LsJYelSzbc27kZFST1++L6S+ZFhPC56DAuVy6g8AoiUDh1gPi6qoIJMzs3SXHGySA15pI5Cc7do= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=t5uTGdMS4MsJt8QVmHwLedJ2aTSUHxMiFxtU+dv3JDLvwjeNvzFrAffjqfKSMe8QwAJCyth0n8tu+MU/X/xaj6Ujd9MlfDedSY1Q2gwjLx4eKiE0HKu/Ap6ewr6uLg5S1xooiDaW0gUxPYrYNj5NWZFPU0RrZa2/ek4scgRwxeI= Received: by 10.65.244.15 with SMTP id w15mr28281868qbr.38.1202595289066; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w38sm45767656pyg.17.2008.02.09.14.14.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:14:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080209220150.GC41847@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <50460.33951.qm@web34512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080206205042.H4868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080207151415.06393db1@meijome.net> <20080207092634.J22656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <55836b724f9f2f7d35654d7e7c477717@gmail.com> <20080209220150.GC41847@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:16:18 -0600 To: Jerry McAllister X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:14:51 -0000 On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > >> Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having >> several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most >> Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition, >> when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition >> to >> create an overflow file on another partition, or perhaps a dedicated > > You can do this alrady. > Just move some directory tree in to the large space and create a > synlink. > I do it often. > > > ////jerry > My idea would eliminate that work around and make it automatic. Who actually waits to constantly look at their disk usage and try and figure out if they have enough space left on their 512 meg partition when they have 200 gigs free on another? I think most people find out they're low on space when they run out trying to do something on that partition. > > >> amount of the swap partition if it's on the same disk, to keep from >> running out of space? It'd probably have to be limited to one disk, >> but that wouldn't hinder things too much. Dealing with unmounted >> filesystems would be annoying but probably doable without too much >> risk >> of problems(could even use the swap partition, and on say /usr just >> have a file for swap?). The most obvious case of how this could be >> good would be the root partition when you're updating the system, >> especially with debug symbols or perhaps multiple kernels(say a >> generic >> debug, optimized debug, generic, and optimized?). >> >> The best reason for doing something like this, you can keep the >> partitions for "disk optimization" and still have the ease of use of a >> single partition like OS X, Ubuntu, or PCBSD. >> >> Maybe this would be good for FreeBSD 8 or 9? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:23:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A544E16A420 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from kokanee.rmnanetworks.com (kokanee.rmnanetworks.com [74.52.88.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8539C13C442 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rmnanetworks.com) Received: from s01060040f472fffe.ed.shawcable.net ([68.149.185.202] helo=FWITLAPTOP) by kokanee.rmnanetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JNy6Q-0000Py-TR; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:23:19 -0700 Message-ID: <6D3E12C5DC8540B1A935B40239514BE6@FWITLAPTOP> From: "Kieran" To: "James" , References: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kokanee.rmnanetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rmnanetworks.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Re: US ftp mirrors down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:23:24 -0000 Hi James, I just tried cvsuping from cvsup10.us.freebsd.org for releng_6_3 and it worked fine. I am assuming you had a typo below as you should not be cvsuping from an ftp. Best Regards, Kieran ----- Original Message ----- From: "James" To: Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: US ftp mirrors down? > Hi folks, > > I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some issues. > ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have src-all, a bunch > of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. Could someone check that > behaviour for me? > > Thanks > > James > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:34:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6BC16A421 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C96313C45D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3195155rvb.43 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:34:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BVFqWHduvJ+UdQTNHiBpwELoRzmERgJLKwbedzAWeI0=; b=mPBzWrnvyHZpJLZ98V8onY/cm+NxF3vJhbPzd1hkNO7sJnHQ33TzbdxYNRHDte/Q/IAMM+UvBx0+R6QmCRsea7IGOruXC24K1pnVElN1HudLKjX/Yoe5j2rfgyftdYyMshFowGmAZDh/LqXkiNemteeYmaSiNU/XF9HKweLEXu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SVeE6k3riNbbvimw/l2kN2ALGqj2+gszAvsoF2Ix8h5tFO0Rt8g4C2QzDV4tZbUyJNM/oB1HgUdmxw/Pm3OdYUR6JwMlQHg9QlF8+qSrW2IlV5XOPzuVzsL0p82XVHewg28rjqYlijK4gQbfhfZIpqVaZsUpA8kHBmYjMaHEp60= Received: by 10.141.205.10 with SMTP id h10mr9562342rvq.138.1202596461732; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pclmills.lanl.gov ( [69.254.137.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l38sm13771470rvb.12.2008.02.09.14.34.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:34:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47AE2A7B.6070305@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:34:35 -0700 From: James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kieran References: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> <6D3E12C5DC8540B1A935B40239514BE6@FWITLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <6D3E12C5DC8540B1A935B40239514BE6@FWITLAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: US ftp mirrors down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:34:22 -0000 Kieran wrote: > Hi James, > > I just tried cvsuping from cvsup10.us.freebsd.org for releng_6_3 and it > worked fine. I am assuming you had a typo below as you should not be > cvsuping from an ftp. > > Best Regards, > > Kieran No, I've always csupped from the ftp sites. Usually works just fine. Though apparently I should be using the cvsup sites. Whoops! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 22:36:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008A416A468 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69CD13C46A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNy1w-0005XA-8d for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:18:41 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNy1r-0005Wq-RG; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:18:35 -0700 Message-ID: <47AE26D0.30006@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:18:56 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James References: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47AE247A.4040600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: US ftp mirrors down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:36:29 -0000 James wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was just trying to csup the sources for releng_6_3 and had some > issues. ftp10.us.freebsd.org was unlocateable, ftp11 didn't have > src-all, a bunch of the lower numbered ones were all unresponsive. > Could someone check that behaviour for me? > > Thanks > > James > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I got mirror 10 without problems. Nine and eleven didn't work. I didn't check other. Best, Predrag From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 23:10:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0139616A419 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@dgnetwork.com.br) Received: from mail.mastercabo.com.br (mail.mastercabo.com.br [200.179.179.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A32F313C458 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@dgnetwork.com.br) Received: (qmail 16018 invoked by uid 1008); 9 Feb 2008 22:43:38 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6-unknown (2006-10-03) on srvmail1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.7 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6-unknown Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.10?) (daniel@dgnetwork.com.br@200.243.216.68) by mail.mastercabo.com.br with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 22:43:32 -0000 Message-ID: <47AE2AEC.5060604@dgnetwork.com.br> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:36:28 -0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Dias_Gon=E7alves?= Organization: DGNET Network Solutions User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:39:52 +0000 Cc: Subject: DEVICE_POLLING IF_EM CPU usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: daniel@dgnetwork.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:10:22 -0000 Hi, I activated polling in 8 interfaces em0... em7 (ifconfig em* polling) to carry through performance tests, when activating, it had a significant reduction of CPU usage, load average measured of "0,50, 0,69, 0,52" for "0,43, 0,39, 0,21" and the CPU usage (SNMP Graphic) measured of 35% for 5%. Passed some hours I disactivated polling (ifconfig em* - polling) and CPU usage continues low. Somebody could explain this to me? Some information: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3200.13-MHz 686-class CPU) Logical CPUs per core: 2 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Interfaces if_em: vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82546EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller' Thanks. Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 23:53:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D8C16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C2D13C478 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m19NrqFX002143 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:53:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080209235348.GA37810@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLACK autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: hundreds of duplicate messages from mailserver... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:53:57 -0000 Hi People, I wrote to the KDE list about Kmail endlessly updating itself and adding and bunches of messages to my INBOX on my mailserver. Someone responded that it was probably not a KMail problem, but a server problem. That seems probably since evolution and mutt also have these duplications. So far, I'm seeing between 5 and 20 copies of most mails. I did not set up the imap stuff; the networking volunteer did that. I am running dovecot in my jail "aristotle.thought.org" on the host "sage.though.org". aristotle also hosts my DNS and web server. (FWIW, I'm still using my 400MHz Kayak with plenty of disk and about 0.5GB RAM for sage. I monitor the load; it's reasonable.) My questions: are there any mail-server types amongst us who have any idea where I can began tracking this problem? We're using procmail to put certain mail in various directories under kmail. I haven't used procmail since the early 90's and don't remember very much about it. ...I won't hypothesize any further and further confuse things. Just hope that somebody onlist can help me sort this out. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org