From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 1 02:04:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161E8106566C for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E0E8FC08 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95473509DB for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:04:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zwIL-HDxn5Vn for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:04:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-auth.unixathome.org (smtp-auth.unixathome.org [10.4.7.7]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2BC1509D0 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 02:04:47 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4B1479BE.8020200@langille.org> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:04:46 -0500 From: Dan Langille User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BSDCan 2010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:04:49 -0000 Hello folks, BSDCan 2010 will be held 13-14 May, 2010 in Ottawa at the University of Ottawa. It will be preceded by two days of tutorials on 11-12 May. We are now accepting proposals for talks. The talks should be designed with a very strong technical content bias. Proposals of a business development or marketing nature are not appropriate for this venue. If you are doing something interesting with a BSD operating system, please submit a proposal. Whether you are developing a very complex system using BSD as the foundation, or helping others and have a story to tell about how BSD played a role, we want to hear about your experience. People using BSD as a platform for research are also encouraged to submit a proposal. Possible topics include: * How we manage a giant installation with respect to handling spam. * and/or sysadmin. * and/or networking. From the BSDCan website, the Archives section will allow you to review the wide variety of past BSDCan presentations as further examples. Both users and developers are encouraged to share their experiences. The schedule is: 19 Dec 2009 Proposal acceptance begins 19 Jan 2010 Proposal acceptance ends 19 Feb 2010 Confirmation of accepted proposals See also Instructions for submitting a proposal to BSDCan 2010 are available from: From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 1 18:40:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6AB1065696 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3708FC23 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1Ie2nD018302 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:40:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB1Ie2NR018301; 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Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:41:56 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au) Received: (from john@localhost) by rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB45fuoP019859 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:41:56 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:41:56 +1100 From: John Marshall To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p8PhoBjPxaQXD0vg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.net.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc Subject: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:57:06 -0000 --p8PhoBjPxaQXD0vg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen, Sorry if this topic is inappropriate for this mailing list - please point me in the right direction if so, or pass this on to the appropriate hat. Readers of the FreeBSD web site and handbook are directed to the the comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce newsgroup. This newsgroup, created in 1995 and moderated by Jordan Hubbard, is inactive and under threat of extinction. The newsgroup folks have started their "Moderator Vacancy Investigation" (MVI) process for this newsgroup and unless a replacement moderator is appointed the group will probably be removed. I suggest that the FreeBSD Project: 1. Respond to the MVI proposing a new moderator for the newsgroup; 2. Arrange for the freebsd-announce mailing list to be gated to the newsgroup (since that fits the newsgroup's charter). Extract from the MVI... ---------------------------------------------------------------- CHARTER OF COMP.UNIX.BSD.FREEBSD.ANNOUNCE Moderated by Jordan Hubbard This newsgroup is for announcements relating to the FreeBSD operating system. Things appropriate for the .announce group would include announcements of new versions of FreeBSD, announcements of major software releases (both commercial and freely redistributable) for FreeBSD (e.g. new version of X11 for FreeBSD), announcements of fixes for major bugs, and the like. FAQs relating to FreeBSD should also be cross-posted to this group. =20 HISTORY OF THE GROUP: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 338:69 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Feb 1995. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I am happy to help if necessary but somebody like the -announce mailing list moderator is probably more appropriate. I have never done any mail-to-news stuff but I could learn. - I mailed jkh@ on 30-Nov and got no response. - I mailed freebsd-www@ on 01-Dec and got no response. Thank you. Regards, --=20 John Marshall --p8PhoBjPxaQXD0vg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksYoSMACgkQw/tAaKKahKKp/QCfSC5VszkWBnGSqtVaVPzcunTm omYAnR63Raz2PlTtLrxTWziZZpoDgOkc =3HZS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p8PhoBjPxaQXD0vg-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 4 13:28:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E2E106568D for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855D38FC18 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB4D4hBk004894; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 05:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB4D4hGh004893; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 05:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 05:04:43 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: John Marshall Message-ID: <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GPJrCs/72TxItFYR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:28:10 -0000 --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 04:41:56PM +1100, John Marshall wrote: > ... > I suggest that the FreeBSD Project: > 1. Respond to the MVI proposing a new moderator for the newsgroup; > 2. Arrange for the freebsd-announce mailing list to be gated to > the newsgroup (since that fits the newsgroup's charter). I haven't paid attention to netnews in several years, so my perspective may well be biased. And I haven't actually paid attention to the issues involved in running a news site for most of the last couple of decades. But my recollection is that *bidirectional* gateways (news <=3D> mail) are rather difficult to "get right" and the consequences of misconfiguration tend toward "cascade failure." It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional gateway were set up (mail =3D> news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list. In that scenario, it would not be possible to "post" directly the newsgroup -- and I believe that would be appropriate. > ... > I am happy to help if necessary but somebody like the -announce mailing > list moderator is probably more appropriate. I have never done any > mail-to-news stuff but I could learn. >=20 > - I mailed jkh@ on 30-Nov and got no response. > - I mailed freebsd-www@ on 01-Dec and got no response. > .... Thank you for your efforts so far. Peace, david (postmaster@freebsd.org hat lying about nearby) --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksZCOoACgkQmprOCmdXAD3eaACgiQHExw8NhsxznwDoIvJdOVxY vQQAnR8JvwAZAFIH2tFv66c+m2phZU5O =K5vH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GPJrCs/72TxItFYR-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 4 13:46:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37833106566B for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC008FC17 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225FC6D41B; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 021A3844F3; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:46:18 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: David Wolfskill References: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:46:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> (David Wolfskill's message of "Fri, 4 Dec 2009 05:04:43 -0800") Message-ID: <86vdgmua1i.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, John Marshall Subject: Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:46:19 -0000 David Wolfskill writes: > But my recollection is that *bidirectional* gateways (news <=3D> mail) are > rather difficult to "get right" and the consequences of misconfiguration > tend toward "cascade failure." They're not trivial to get right "from first principles", but they're very common, and I'm sure someone who's done it before can lend a hand. > It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional > gateway were set up (mail =3D> news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup > were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list. ...and that would be sufficient for -announce. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 4 22:25:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0C3106566B for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [203.58.93.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817CA8FC15 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au [172.25.24.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB4MPDso033863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:25:13 +1100 (AEDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=m1001; t=1259965513; bh=jYYVkhwgU3zSE0fgScRVWJubARKNemVZY9gbef0yzVU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:Mime-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=rZ9S5UUS5cEJaFMIi3ipxtf1Uy24+P/uvDH0Tkczf7Cl2caqnNPLmUlDjy6Kzdhpz gl53BRSzCFcpzztH/f6TwpFsaSWlZenvCeTBalgLGdfaWZ98LrHYfKTHZZXzSFztE2 TnGBoKPKlcLSIWdpjMgDCfu0j6YpA++YierqRn+k= Received: from rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB4MPD15024180; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:25:13 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au) Received: (from john@localhost) by rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB4MPBtZ024179; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:25:11 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:25:11 +1100 From: John Marshall To: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav Message-ID: <20091204222510.GA20584@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> References: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> <86vdgmua1i.fsf@ds4.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vdgmua1i.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.net.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:25:26 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 04 Dec 2009, 14:46 +0100, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > David Wolfskill writes: > > It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional > > gateway were set up (mail =3D> news -- note direction!), and the newsgr= oup > > were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list. >=20 > ...and that would be sufficient for -announce. Gentlemen, Thank you for your responses. Jordan subsequently replied to my email and CC'd the FreeBSD Core Team. Core has nominated philip@ to succeed jhk@ as moderator of the .announce newsgroup. Philip intends to funnel messages from -announce@ into the .announce newsgroup. I think that liaison between philip@ and postmaster@ on the mechanics of this process would be good. Thank you for helping (re)establish an official presence for FreeBSD on USENET. --=20 John Marshall --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksZjEYACgkQw/tAaKKahKIr4gCeIMyuu3tqC5eYrnTr/65+Ejft BvIAoKhLBWZAeDJw3haFxs6PNtod47xx =oUbZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 4 22:29:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD7B1065695 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4878FC08 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB4MTTLJ010336; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB4MTTWZ010335; Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:29:29 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: John Marshall Message-ID: <20091204222929.GE1130@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> <86vdgmua1i.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20091204222510.GA20584@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091204222510.GA20584@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:29:32 -0000 --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 09:25:11AM +1100, John Marshall wrote: > ... > Thank you for your responses. Jordan subsequently replied to my email > and CC'd the FreeBSD Core Team. Core has nominated philip@ to succeed > jhk@ as moderator of the .announce newsgroup. >=20 > Philip intends to funnel messages from -announce@ into the .announce > newsgroup. I think that liaison between philip@ and postmaster@ on the > mechanics of this process would be good. >=20 > Thank you for helping (re)establish an official presence for FreeBSD on > USENET. Glad to help; that's why I'm here. I'm pretty sure Philip knows how to reach postmaster@. :-} Thanks again for taking the initiative to address the matter. Peace, david (postmaster@freebsd.org hat lying about somewhere near here) --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksZjUkACgkQmprOCmdXAD26hwCff3VM0xv43saKuS8CMn+EfCUZ mqYAoIS8b0T7uYO1xk4YNruG1TEkwqym =a2cY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VdOwlNaOFKGAtAAV-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 5 19:28:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234B8106568B for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E019D8FC15 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-4.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4811934559AB; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:10:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86489-08; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A222A34559A2; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:10:00 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B763455994; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:10:00 -0400 (AST) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:10:00 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: References: <20091204054155.GV1388@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> <20091204130443.GC1130@albert.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, John Marshall Subject: Re: Future of comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce Newsgroup X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:28:26 -0000 On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, David Wolfskill wrote: > It would, however, make sense from my perspective if a unidirectional > gateway were set up (mail => news -- note direction!), and the newsgroup > were to become merely a reflector of the mailing list. In case it is needed, I do run a news server, and would be most willing to put a uni-directional posting filter onto that mailing list, so that mail gets there ... just let me know if this is what is decided / needed ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org