From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 21 19:35:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599F5106566C for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com [69.89.18.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8F268FC17 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23744 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jan 2010 19:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2010 19:35:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=A+F1f8Ro/nimFXj1s7AZSasw8cR4NgmG5bvKDy3gSzdPfBePaxpdR799momHLiWHzcBgjwYd1eDW/NA/R4aS2sR9cpvKkLxgTKJGUShiR1XdZaKwWow5m6b+pZBD8QU7; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.51]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NY2oQ-0007An-8f for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:35:26 -0700 Message-ID: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:35:17 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Chat X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig31133FF51135CCAF03404C95" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Win2k X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:35:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig31133FF51135CCAF03404C95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The FreeBSD os comparison[0] mentioned in the subject line is woefully out of date. Where would I go to bug someone about a newer one? I'm telling a (relatively) minted geek friend of mine who wants benchmarks and stats on FreeBSD vs. Windows XP (and when 7 is supposedly ready for prime time, that too). Keeping something like this up-to-date is definitely would make it a good talking point (with such marketing comparisons kept archived for reference) for FreeBSD advocacy. [0]: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html --=20 PIT --------------enig31133FF51135CCAF03404C95 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLWKx8AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0eNAH/20EjzkL9k0WHbIOlDVsp7JM KlxTmkjlH19ymFoEETRJNa3YVVq6SoOn1Wc3ytepXKuu/Sm27EF22lTINJryMjgn 2sRPKMsPwfpMLTXWtrKFstU5S1x0MowY9FDwqP+kOG1i6apHkSRd9T9x3iI2Q4nA y5KZhKn03790tNjIKlPB/MY0mCaSnmVxxzi2vJCz8K9Uc5CUABwSxvULGL8VUAlQ GtbJ9SpgvKYt2gxfpd+AE3zOg5WjJPZlciA/TzrxesRKY4Yj2xvYtJtPSK3JJMPn bPYPa8hvzuAH2Rlj7t0kYOZi/8GTk2qE/w1emKHPrnLMmC60YKUlEiyj6yyKI3A= =DGlP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig31133FF51135CCAF03404C95-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 22 01:06:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23851106566B for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesthefishy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21088FC12 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so551331yxe.3 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:06:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id :disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wR/DRMVe2O/bsXOZ19vnmEO1ki0MLPbz9xeFYNMpu+4=; b=invG8pzjrCMMnIS0CvFd66dkCIpRKATAROPJoTMAJVacz65vIgA3b2vZoko2u8/C7F rmn0lMINIfer4LLn1b62mo8sD6pRhSeW0d+n50Kqu/gaD6uSW/4Bk+gSgNLO86vp3DHK dwOHRJFq4UJUgZYGMcLVayc5Vnqk2+XHz8LuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NOWst1thK1KnNeNduKRNV36GU8wdeVKWhTdzzHJqC40kh1SIOvGURoQcd2BUTR4HHM spcuLq7MnJvhnQKtXEvSpkqLl+AGFgmzU5SenhjN1Fgcn29H7l/U+e0f2ZzpRp39rG/N bCnu6AQyWvgvo1OVlahVfGIdRtgukNrJWPuNQ= Received: by 10.151.88.10 with SMTP id q10mr3180527ybl.191.1264122369941; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from kapoca.mjbrune.org (c-98-203-159-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.203.159.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1245700iwn.4.2010.01.21.17.06.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:06:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B58FA04.3010403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:06:12 -0800 From: james michael User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Programmer In Training References: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Win2k X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:06:11 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > The FreeBSD os comparison[0] mentioned in the subject line is woefully > out of date. Where would I go to bug someone about a newer one? I'm > telling a (relatively) minted geek friend of mine who wants benchmarks > and stats on FreeBSD vs. Windows XP (and when 7 is supposedly ready for > prime time, that too). > > Keeping something like this up-to-date is definitely would make it a > good talking point (with such marketing comparisons kept archived for > reference) for FreeBSD advocacy. > > [0]: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html > Well murray Stokely made the first one. http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/ the first one was originally posted to http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html but I would even be willing to make a FreeBSD 7.2 vs Linux Debian Lenny vs Windows XP or Windows 7. Although Windows XP still holds most the windows market. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 22 01:44:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8B7106566B for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-111.bluehost.com [69.89.18.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D975B8FC18 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1881 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jan 2010 01:44:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2010 01:44:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=t5zuB4n3auT9EWNG68hkHuT4KTJqxHIguAOKq1zQ/PvsNn3jK6kD2bwutuo+tuad/07Y9salk77Q7FXQvigiei4Ci9fPkhxJvYk9s9a0tZbas6L03XDxIPCwicPmodcs; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.51]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NY8Zx-0007Y1-Uw for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <4B590311.2080909@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:44:49 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B58FA04.3010403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B58FA04.3010403@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5C647109754687D33101C31A" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Win2k X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:44:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5C647109754687D33101C31A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/21/2010 7:06 PM, james michael wrote: > Well murray Stokely made the first one. > http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/ the first one was originally posted > to http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html but I would even be= > willing to make a FreeBSD 7.2 vs Linux Debian Lenny vs Windows XP or > Windows 7. Although Windows XP still holds most the windows market. That would be nice. I really do think such a document, especially if kept updated, makes for good talking points, especially when it's free from at least apparent bias. --=20 PIT --------------enig5C647109754687D33101C31A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLWQMXAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0G6IIAIxwp6tn5gGW8u98v6IB5JbL Hg0TmYFmijbG/MNRsjAwaDD/yTX+i6PMA/0BjYwhpdM949W57gYb/WYQckzDI9i/ SdT490i3mjatQkeMXW/BPAvMOOEM6v+9u3f3rAhthTdhP5h9Ae8NNkdSrGwbLVF6 w8EcRfT0Ud1zIV44GoeVBlZqzSjpYuJzahGuceGy2JXyTaq/3LwcsjqbllGPNmSv 5rNh+avy0clhnc7PjcxFnGPyd8RXILvm1PpTsAhdCk1swlXLx4wh9DwRZFbKotYI CTH7S3MK9sUUcs4gJoPNi73KnNn+oKyXG0IcI0miPIEWh0xhgUdfhY8zZvgHAwk= =v/TB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5C647109754687D33101C31A-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 22 08:01:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3028106566B for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f214.google.com (mail-bw0-f214.google.com [209.85.218.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515748FC13 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so893662bwz.31 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3NW+6RhMqYKqkMJtFOtPuTNmNXA6mM14sMitrXrTim0=; b=gWqyYwmDBSeU7gsfRT4HzZoqqtuRUxifDT0uQTwqsBAQpNyttNqtfY4AjnHz/vFdvK 85grrumWtfJFk0WUdIAaRxlF2t+hQXyK6xjMLUMasphQb6fkFcuZnIFk8LFBtX6I+Y5h hqcBtfu8GUXg2BpZymS9xCVw0KZ/ORWevoPDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n7oYbXSPpLiq0W02Sn5U1cTpSAyddepejsbmrop3QzLYw/AOhww/3NGEtFyCiXMO+t QYCHxy4KriYs6tmbhvp7N0zfsV8SZdvWCAoVoQN3a/qHsP8zziKpZBwT8a4ja5tw0Hy7 k1j0HozKz9iMKLwzXL0VTLQKcJ6e5wprzmqVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.78 with SMTP id r14mr1364908bkw.201.1264147279090; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:01:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4B58AC75.3090100@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:01:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jayton Garnett To: Programmer In Training Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Win2k X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:01:20 -0000 It would be interesting to get these stats performed by someone who is OS-Neutral. Suffice to say Windows 7 is on par with XP's performance on the same hardware, even with all the bells and whistles turned on. Jay