From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 00:28:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5E61065781 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D1D8FC16 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o9A01Dxk092049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 9 Oct 2010 17:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o9A01D9j092048; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21438; Sat, 9 Oct 10 16:56:06 PDT Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:55:58 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: hawei@free.fr Message-Id: <4cb1010e.jWFTs2Hg2NE0zEMM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203932.GB2135@pollux.local.net> In-Reply-To: <20101009203932.GB2135@pollux.local.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: amvandemore@gmail.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:28:36 -0000 Harald Weis wrote: > On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:33:30PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Harald Weis wrote: > > > (while waiting for gnash) > > > > That's the funniest thing I've heard all week. > > Tell me. What is so funny about gnash ? I took the reference as to the entire phrase, parallel to "waiting for Godot" -- and if that's the funniest thing Adam has heard in a week he is seriously in need of a staff comedian :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 00:56:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6451065674 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5248FC14 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.18] (bgn92-1-81-57-223-72.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.223.72]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by sslmail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8563C3DD062 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:38:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB10AEF.1000605@dichotomia.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:38:07 +0200 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <4C8627A6.1090308@icyb.net.ua> <20101008091231.GS2532@e-Gitt.NET> <20101008181213.c9511a15.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20101008181213.c9511a15.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (sslmail.dichotomia.fr); Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:38:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: ISDN4BSD removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:56:33 -0000 Le 08/10/2010 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : > Another thing about VoIP calls: have they solved the "emergency call > needs a location" problem? Here (again: in Norway) they are still > working out how to solve this: if you call emergency services (police, > fire department, etc.) from yout VoIP number; how do the emergency > center locate you? I mean; how do they know that you are at home, > and not at say, a cabin half across the country? With old landlines, > there is no problem; it is always installed at an address. > > Just my point of view. The solution here in France are a mix of many moves, though they are actually more recommandations than laws - If it is a fixed place VoIP you have two solutions : 1) Emergency calls are routed to a plain old analog line 2) Your system have at least one localized caller-id (sends an actual phone number instead of sip profile) 3) Fire alarms and elevators alarms have to be set up using POTS (this part is actually a law) - If it is a split VoIP (for exemple an in house virtualized PBX for a company) : 1) The different places the virtualized PBX is managing can have localized caller-id 2) The caller-id is replaced with the public IP address of the place (tricky as the number can be mistaken for a real phone nuber.) 3) Caller name is replaced with the actual address (but again not every system is configured to display caller-name properly, most ss7 installation trashes it) - If it is a roaming VoIP (for exemple going through a VPN from your laptop in a remote place) 1) You're screwed - some systems try to grab the public address (through NAPT for exemple) but it doesn't work well In fact more than a technical solution, it is a legal solution that is needed. Bascially VoIP system should have a way to request for a local physical address on the network. And then there should be a way for firemen and policement to get this informations. It is neither hard to do, nor does it impair in any way VoIP system. But there is need for a norm, and right now there are no consortium debating what should be done that I am aware of. This said aquiring one localized number per site and playing with routing tables solves 99% of cases. Jerome Herman From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 02:34:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA471065672; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7DE8FC14; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o9A1Wsx8015918; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:32:55 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:32:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> In-Reply-To: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201010100332.54731.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" , Andriy Bakay , Andriy Gapon , Pete French Subject: Re: Serious zfs slowdown when mixed with another file system (ufs/msdosfs/etc.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:34:29 -0000 On Saturday 09 October 2010 16:55:35 Andriy Bakay wrote: > Do you know any more convenient way (except make buildword, etc.) to > upgrade/update several boxes to STABLE on regular basis? Something like > freebsd-update or maybe some process, tips, tricks, etc? > > Thanks. Here's how I do it: 1) Build server: make buildworld && make buildkernel 2) Other servers: export / via NFS Repeat for each other server on build server: mount boxN:/ /mnt make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt -DNO_FSCHG make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt -DNO_FSCHG umount /mnt Note that I use a single filesystem for / and /usr. Obviously if those are separate filesystems more NFS exports and mount commands are necessary. Before the first run all immutable flags need to be removed from the target box, otherwise the install will fail (i.e. chflags -R noschg /). > > On 2010-10-08, at 6:11, Pete French wrote: > >> Ok. But how stable (production ready) the FreeBSD-8-STABLE is? What is > >> your opinion? > > > > I am running 8-STABLE from 27th September on all our ptoduction > > machines (from webservers to database servers to the company mail > > server) and it is fine. I am going to update again over the next > > few days, as there are some ZFS fixes in which I want - and which > > may benifit you too - so I will be able to report back next > > week as to how a more recent version behaves. > > > > In general though, I have never had problems running STABLE on > > prodyction systems over the years. Of course what I do is to test it > > on a singlre machine before rolling it out (a leaf in a webfarm > > so if it goes down it wont affect the business) but it is usually > > fine. keep an eye on -STABLE mailing list though, as that is where > > problems arise. I watch that, and also the dailing commits, either here > > > > http://www.freshbsd.org/?branch=RELENG_8&project=freebsd&committer=&modul > >e=&q= > > > > or here > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/FreeBSD/svnews/?p=stable/8 > > > > Just to see whats going into the tree relative to whats being discussed. > > It only takes a few minutes a dat to monitor the mailin lists and the > > commits, and the result is that we've been running STABLE for a very > > long time (close to a decade I suspect) with great success. > > > > -pete. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 03:14:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C21106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambsd@raisa.eu.org) Received: from raisa.eu.org (raisa.eu.org [83.17.178.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4B98FC12 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bolt.zol (62-121-98-25.home.aster.pl [62.121.98.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by raisa.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29BA654; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:39:58 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Harald Weis" , "Alex Goncharov" References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:42:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Emil Smolenski" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.61 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:14:26 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:22:31 +0200, Alex Goncharov wrote: > www/opera won't work with flash (it seems first). It works for me for years. Just install www/opera, www/opera-linuxplugins, www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. Don't install any www/nspluginwrapper* ports. > But I've found a non-trivial solution which for me works better than > either of "(any) Opera by itself" or "Firefox by itself". > > The solution is: > > * Install Firefox plugins through www/nspluginwrapper-devel: > > nspluginwrapper -v -a -i > > You'll get e.g. ~/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so > * Use www/opera, for which (there are many bizarre pieces below, but > they all turned out to be necessary in my experiments (the names > of newly created files can vary, of course): > > ** Disable all plugin paths > ** ln -s ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla > > ** cp ~/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so > ~/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.mvflashplayer.so > ** Add ~/mozilla/plugins to the plugins path > > ** Discover the new plugins. > > ** Use "opera:config / Extensions" to set "PluginResponseTimeout" > (mine is 8 sec). I don't think it is necessary. -- am From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 06:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99039106564A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411488FC0C for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-75-64-226-141.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [75.64.226.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F404037B444; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 01:08:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 236BD61C5A; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 01:08:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 01:08:48 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Pieter de Goeje Message-ID: <20101010060848.GA99431@over-yonder.net> References: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> <201010100332.54731.pieter@degoeje.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201010100332.54731.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20-fullermd.4 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Andriy Bakay , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious zfs slowdown when mixed with another file system (ufs/msdosfs/etc.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 06:26:50 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:32:54AM +0200 I heard the voice of Pieter de Goeje, and lo! it spake thus: > > Note that I use a single filesystem for / and /usr. Obviously if > those are separate filesystems more NFS exports and mount commands > are necessary. Before the first run all immutable flags need to be > removed from the target box, otherwise the install will fail (i.e. > chflags -R noschg /). That's one reason I always found it easier to go the other way, export /usr/{src,obj} from the build server, and do the installworld locally on the boxes in question. 's just simpler that way, when everything is in its "normal" place. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 08:16:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03961065673; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53B58FC18; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA05350; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:16:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P4r4y-000HSH-JH; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:16:24 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB17658.5080808@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:16:24 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andriy Bakay References: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> In-Reply-To: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Serious zfs slowdown when mixed with another file system (ufs/msdosfs/etc.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:16:29 -0000 on 09/10/2010 17:55 Andriy Bakay said the following: > Do you know any more convenient way (except make buildword, etc.) to > upgrade/update several boxes to STABLE on regular basis? Something like > freebsd-update or maybe some process, tips, tricks, etc? More convenient? :-) Sorry, I always use "make buildword, etc", works 100% for me and I find it very convenient. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 10:54:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957C5106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwaki@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp) Received: from mxav02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (mxav02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp [133.35.17.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6C8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mxav02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA214541ED for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:37:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmail02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (ccmail02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp [133.35.20.10]) by mxav02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D058B4541C2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:37:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from 133.35.85.3 (133.35.85.3 [133.35.85.3]) by ccmail02.cc.niigata-u.ac.jp (deepsmtpd.st 3.5.66) with ESMTP id <4CB1977F.8070205@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp> for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:37:54 +0900 Message-ID: <4CB1977F.8070205@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:37:51 +0900 From: Mamoru Iwaki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4CADBF20.1040000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CADBF20.1040000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-FROM-DOMAIN: eng.niigata-u.ac.jp X-FROM-EMAIL: iwaki@eng.niigata-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: How dhcp client can set its hostname properly on lease time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:54:53 -0000 Hi, Thanks everyone for giving me useful reply. Now, my stupid problem has been solved by setting 'get-lease-hostnames true;' in dhcpd.conf file. Cheers (4:59), Mamoru Iwaki wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using FreeBSD 8 stable as of 20101006. It is a dhcp client in a > private local network, and xorg staff is installed. When I tried to use > it from a remote pc with X11-forwarding set, xauth failed to set up > .Xauthority as follows. > > /usr/local/bin/xauth: creating new authority file /home/hogehoge/.Xauthority > /usr/local/bin/xauth: (stdin):1: bad display name "unix:10.0" in > "remove" command > /usr/local/bin/xauth: (stdin):2: bad display name "unix:10.0" in "add" > command > > At this moment, hostname was not set (it's empty) because the FreeBSD > box was a dhcp client. Meanwhile, if the hostname coresponding to the > ip-address assigned by dhcp server was set manually, the above lines > disappeared and X11-forwarding worked well. > > > Now, my question is > > Are there good way for dhcp client to set its hostname properly on lease > time? > > > The following will be a possble workaround, but I'm wondering there can > be a smart answer in FreeBSD itself. > > It is possible to resolve the hostname corresponding to a dhcp-delivered > ip-address with a local name server. So, (1) resolve the corresponding > hostname from the local name server, (2) set it as hostname, and (3) > call them every time when dhcp lease is updated -- ----- Mamoru IWAKI Grad. Schl. Sci & Tech./Dept. Biocybernetics, Niigata University From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 12:16:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C50106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1378FC18 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H0BA1f00127AodY570GRVD; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:16:25 +0000 Received: from hanssachs.home ([24.61.85.144]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H0GR1f00236qgMk3f0GRfq; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:16:25 +0000 Received: from algo by hanssachs.home with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P4upE-0000Wl-1F; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:16:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:16:24 -0400 Message-Id: From: Alex Goncharov To: "Emil Smolenski" In-reply-to: (ambsd@raisa.eu.org) References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Sender: Alex Goncharov Cc: hawei@free.fr, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, alex-goncharov@comcast.net Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:16:26 -0000 ,--- You/Emil (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:42:17 +0200) ----* | > www/opera won't work with flash (it seems first). | | It works for me for years. Just install www/opera, | www/opera-linuxplugins, www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. Don't install any | www/nspluginwrapper* ports. Do you mean that in order www/opera to work with flash, one must not have www/nspluginwrapper installed? Or www/nspluginwrapper does not do any harm for www/opera? What version of www/opera are you running now? | > ** Use "opera:config / Extensions" to set "PluginResponseTimeout" | > (mine is 8 sec). | | I don't think it is necessary. I would be happy to learn how to make that unnecessary -- tried it all before ending up with my bizarre solution. So, tell me again, please: * You are running Flash inside the most recent www/(non-linux)opera, right? * What version of www/opera? I'll repeat your setup today, when we are clear what precisely you have done (provided you use www/opera from the most recent ports.) Thanks, -- Alex -- goncharov.alex@gmail.com -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 14:41:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEE7106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambsd@raisa.eu.org) Received: from raisa.eu.org (raisa.eu.org [83.17.178.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE828FC14 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bolt.zol (62-121-98-25.home.aster.pl [62.121.98.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by raisa.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66783FD; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Alex Goncharov" References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:41:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Emil Smolenski" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.61 (FreeBSD) Cc: hawei@free.fr, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, alex-goncharov@comcast.net Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:41:44 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:16:24 +0200, Alex Goncharov wrote: > ,--- You/Emil (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:42:17 +0200) ----* > | > www/opera won't work with flash (it seems first). > | > | It works for me for years. Just install www/opera, > | www/opera-linuxplugins, www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. Don't install any > | www/nspluginwrapper* ports. > > Do you mean that in order www/opera to work with flash, one must not > have www/nspluginwrapper installed? > > Or www/nspluginwrapper does not do any harm for www/opera? www/opera and www/nspluginwrapper can coexist, but Opera should not use nspluginwrapper-generated plugins. > What version of www/opera are you running now? opera-10.61.6430 opera-linuxplugins-10.61.6430 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r85 > > | > ** Use "opera:config / Extensions" to set "PluginResponseTimeout" > | > (mine is 8 sec). > | > | I don't think it is necessary. > > I would be happy to learn how to make that unnecessary -- tried it all > before ending up with my bizarre solution. > > So, tell me again, please: > > * You are running Flash inside the most recent > www/(non-linux)opera, right? Right. > * What version of www/opera? opera-10.61.6430 > I'll repeat your setup today, when we are clear what precisely you > have done (provided you use www/opera from the most recent ports.) Good luck. -- am From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 17:56:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402F2106566B for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED26C8FC08 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:56:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LA3002ID5TFCN50@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:56:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.34]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with SMTP id <0LA3000SG5TESR70@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:56:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:56:02 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20101010195602.dc4a05d9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:56:05 -0000 On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:41:39 +0200 Emil Smolenski wrote: > opera-10.61.6430 > opera-linuxplugins-10.61.6430 > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r85 Aha, I was missing opera-linuxplugins. Installed now, seems to be working fine. Very useful. Thanks! Have a nice sunday, everyone! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 10 21:57:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3761065670 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andriy@irbisnet.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B14638FC0A for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16583 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2010 21:57:08 -0000 Received: from smtp.irbisnet.com (andriy@99.235.226.221 with login) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2010 14:57:08 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: dz9sigaswBA5kWoYWVTZrGHmIs2vaKgG1w-- X-YMail-OSG: Q6398G0VM1nbpdaXT4eqs65NIzULnUbp7u_i33WpuVDc3x_ s7wVNVSqlaB.CprQuRsPiQvZ4HkLHBb1HgJuZuTdrkSKzDMneCzIUfQJ0TFQ vMfLVJBFve12Gh1Ez7jpclDDX8UAhaPtgDA_5Vv1X5_1HDh6QqYkGNDzRUWQ sa6G.KkksOC9lgCOOvH7GPFcfn12Qx6pimBoZL_sGwH.TsabGsV5NsyIxTUk pLhudkgQ2MuET9_g9_lmjnMtTcfaHV5z51DPKcLLOCpcfxOjuuxhhkA2A6wf 9Er1Ur5h3alAP7d8Um2U4p485Gk6ByMfINMSi1Ilf2dnmmU2Z80jUXVDIN1B ko2syaHo8WS3ACuCevM9YwYirezGHSrHwh6j5kGsg4soAI5gK.M1iE_EPLFQ EPgCBBPcLQA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from genie.irbisnet.lan (genie.irbisnet.lan [192.168.0.2]) by smtp.irbisnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1E26A628; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Andriy Bakay To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4CB17658.5080808@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:57:04 -0400 References: <169A4F62-0509-4AE9-A4A5-F9CADD08140D@irbisnet.com> <4CB17658.5080808@icyb.net.ua> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Serious zfs slowdown when mixed with another file system (ufs/msdosfs/etc.). X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:57:10 -0000 On 10-Oct-10, at 4:16 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote: > More convenient? :-) > Sorry, I always use "make buildword, etc", works 100% for me and I > find it very > convenient. > > -- > Andriy Gapon I mean some thing like freebsd-update for FreeBSD-STABLE monthly snapshots. You are right, update from sources is working perfectly and I used it before freebsd-update came along. But I found freebsd-update way more convenient. Anyway thank you all for all your tips. -- Andriy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 00:25:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8236B106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF898FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HBMu1f0021uE5Es55CRB3q; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:25:11 +0000 Received: from hanssachs.home ([24.61.85.144]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HCRB1f00136qgMk3cCRBV0; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:25:11 +0000 Received: from algo by hanssachs.home with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P56CT-0008At-Q6; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:25:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:25:09 -0400 Message-Id: From: Alex Goncharov To: "Emil Smolenski" In-reply-to: (ambsd@raisa.eu.org) References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Sender: Alex Goncharov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:25:11 -0000 ,--- You/Emil (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:41:39 +0200) ----* | www/opera and www/nspluginwrapper can coexist, but Opera should not use | nspluginwrapper-generated plugins. | | opera-10.61.6430 | opera-linuxplugins-10.61.6430 | linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r85 ,--- Torfinn Ingolfsen (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:56:02 +0200) ----* | Aha, I was missing opera-linuxplugins. Installed now, seems to be | working fine. Very useful. Thanks! `------------------------------------------------------------* Ditto -- opera-linuxplugins is what I was missing; I had completely forgotten about it!... Years ago I had it (or so I think now) but Flash 10 didn't work, so I started to use linux-opera, which actually looked better than the native version, too. Happily used linux-opera until 10.61 came out, which having switched to a different UI toolkit turned out to be a pretty different animal... Ultimately I got tired of the flood of messages "syscall not implemented" and last weekend made the effort to make www/opera use linux plugins. Was successful but at the cost of that horrible setup; bizarre or not, I was happy with the www/opera's handling flash and most everything else. Fortunately, this topic was raised just a few days after, and you showed us the path. Thank you *very much*! (It only www/opera stopped crashing on File/Exit now...) -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 06:21:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD44106566C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 06:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6EA8FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 06:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so1159653vws.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UALb1kLYmHs0fLB7VDVhTzxJnxE1MDwae1FMuSIbWLw=; b=t/xloQgIu42GjEcBuiTWVsvIRbFcr7EAzAWJloCJvLNZeHZchgN6ckpnDY/tSgN+Tv +98PhdbcQzr99RSsmL7Jq2Vvf2kuRS8LsmHgN/xkn2ccXTE5NWKkdOWqbyaagOHoPPVK i2sxkQaJ0qtcIOHq4kAVAw3eQtP24yH5fDxHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=dReAueJj0JJCN+tt6RxgVByv0/g7+BBbDhVrF8ktaGr6f+Zzj/ibja77JMWjrFwGE4 MpNsRavekWBQEZ/Rk2oOK854HdYnBi6wuVF5Z6TvjzGCXNLdNNqXJ6JWydU5OUVcYuaK w9aInpzISond1BOpM/c/RL+PsnESjwrbFdwd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.95.205 with SMTP id e13mr1820355vcn.48.1286778079358; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: artemb@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.190.194 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VXYkgJ-IIgeImws6PRnMpSTpLb4 Message-ID: From: Artem Belevich To: Alex Goncharov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Emil Smolenski Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 06:21:23 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Alex Goncharov wrote: > (It only www/opera stopped crashing on File/Exit now...) I think I've accidentally stumbled on a workaround for this crash on exit issue. Once you've started opera and opened a page (any page), turn on print preview on and off (Menu->Print->Print preview). Once it's done, opera will exit cleanly. It beats me why print preview has anything to do with exiting opera, but in my case it certainly does. Another option is to delete liboperagtk.so once opera has been installed. The downside is that file dialogs will be horrible. I personally stick with the print preview workaround. --Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 09:18:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B7C1065672 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail6.hostpark.net (mail6.hostpark.net [212.243.197.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0F18FC17 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail6.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443899FF1; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:18:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail6.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail6.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id e4nq4QIzrVi6; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (132-157.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch [81.62.157.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail6.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0EE1AAE2; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9B9HeUM005394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:17:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o9B9HeEl005393; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:17:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:17:40 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101011091739.GA5388@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Cyrus saslauthd: Problems with plugins X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:18:23 -0000 Hello My system: FreeBSD acsvfbsd04.tld.ch 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Oct 7 18:45:49 CEST 2010 martin@acsvfbsd04.tld.ch:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Since I updated from FreeBSD 7.2 to 8.1 there seems to be a problem with the Kerberos5 (Heimdal 1.1) which is in the base system . There are some threads around this problem in http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2010/freebsd-stable/20100725.freebsd-stable.html and http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2010/freebsd-stable/20100718.freebsd-stable.html. Until now there were no realy workaround which works on my systems. Any way... Under this circumstance I checked saslauthd with truss and there I saw: stat("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5",0xbfbfbf30) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' But I have no ideas what in this directory should be? Because it does not exist. Should there be the SASL plugins? After some study around I set a symlink to lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20B 7 Okt 11:58 krb5 -> /usr/local/lib/sasl2 (which helds all the SASL plugins) but with no realy success. Since I'm not a programmer I can not interpret the output of truss. With the above symlink I get results like this: [snip] ... stat("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5",{ mode=drwxr-xr-x ,inode=1578253,size=1024,blksize=16384 }) = 0 (0x0) open("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5",O_NONBLOCK,05001342626) = 10 (0xa) fstat(10,{ mode=drwxr-xr-x ,inode=1578253,size=1024,blksize=16384 }) = 0 (0x0) fcntl(10,F_SETFD,FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 (0x0) __sysctl(0xbfbfbc68,0x2,0x284f5860,0xbfbfbc70,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) fstatfs(0xa,0xbfbfbd40,0x1,0xbfbfbcb4,0x280963a0,0xa) = 0 (0x0) getdirentries(0xa,0x28612000,0x1000,0x28602114,0x44f59c4e,0x28097800) = 1024 (0x400) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVT open("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5/.",O_RDONLY,027757736550) = 11 (0xb) fstat(11,{ mode=drwxr-xr-x ,inode=1578253,size=1024,blksize=16384 }) = 0 (0x0) pread(0xb,0x28086d80,0x1000,0x0,0x0,0x3) = 1024 (0x400) close(11) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVT open("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5/..",O_RDONLY,027757737434) = 11 (0xb) fstat(11,{ mode=drwxr-xr-x ,inode=1530887,size=15872,blksize=16384 }) = 0 (0x0) pread(0xb,0x28086d80,0x1000,0x0,0x0,0x0) = 4096 (0x1000) close(11) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGHUP|SIGINT|SIGQUIT|SIGKILL|SIGPIPE|SIGALRM|SIGTERM|SIGURG|SIGSTOP|SIGTSTP|SIGCONT|SIGCHLD|SIGTTIN|SIGTTOU|SIGIO|SIGXCPU|SIGXFSZ|SIGVT open("/usr/lib/plugin/krb5/libsasldb.so.2",O_RDONLY,027757737434) = 11 (0xb) ... [snip] It seems that saslauthd reads all files in this directory. But is this correct, resp. what do saslauthd expect there? What do I wrong? Any help is welcome. Regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 09:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC39106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auryn@zirakzigil.org) Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org (mail.zirakzigil.org [82.63.178.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E478FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C691031CB for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:12:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zirakzigil.org Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org ([192.168.1.2]) by localhost (ext.zirakzigil.org [192.168.1.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F-rtbO5ODfsO for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:10:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.81] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: auryn@zirakzigil.org) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 909F510406B for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:09:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CAF262A.1020507@zirakzigil.org> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:09:46 +0200 From: Giulio Ferro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ZFS tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:44:48 -0000 I've got lost in all the posts concerning the nefarious kmem_size too small bug, and I'm going finally to upgrade my system (it's currently 8.0 stable 1st May). What is now (freebsd 8.1 last stable) the state of the art of the tuning I should do on my system (amd64, of course)? To put it as plain as possible, what should I write in my /boot/loader.conf? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 11:32:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF14106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E28FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P5GcR-0004DE-VQ for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:32:39 -0700 Message-ID: <29933187.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:32:40 -0000 Artem Belevich wrote: > > > Another option is to delete liboperagtk.so once opera has been > installed. The downside is that file dialogs will be horrible. I > personally stick with the print preview workaround. > > --Artem > I think you are able to choose toolkit in opera:config. Was it -1 for plain X? Remedy for ugly file dialogs is skin with skinned ones. e.g. http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=10071 regards, - Jakub Lach -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VirtualBox-OpenSolaris-guest-tp29917864p29933187.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 11:52:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB3C106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458348FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HPeK1f0020EZKEL5BPs5ql; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:05 +0000 Received: from hanssachs.home ([24.61.85.144]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HPs41f00S36qgMk3MPs56a; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:05 +0000 Received: from algo by hanssachs.home with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P5GvD-000Axn-JA; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:52:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:52:03 -0400 Message-Id: From: Alex Goncharov To: Artem Belevich , Jakub Lach In-reply-to: (message from Artem Belevich on Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:19 -0700) References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Sender: Alex Goncharov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:05 -0000 ,--- Artem Belevich (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 23:21:19 -0700) ----* | | I think I've accidentally stumbled on a workaround for this crash on | exit issue. | | Once you've started opera and opened a page (any page), turn on print | preview on and off (Menu->Print->Print preview). Once it's done, opera | will exit cleanly. It beats me why print preview has anything to do | with exiting opera, but in my case it certainly does. Amazingly, that works for me, too -- thank you! | Another option is to delete liboperagtk.so once opera has been | installed. The downside is that file dialogs will be horrible. I | personally stick with the print preview workaround. Yeah, this workaround is quite tolerable -- in any case, the crash-on-exit is only a mild puzzling annoyance and I have every reason to believe that Opera folks will fix that soon (I, for one, clicked "Send the report" on crash more than once). ,--- Jakub Lach (Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT)) ----* | | I think you are able to choose toolkit in opera:config. | | Was it -1 for plain X? For me, with liboperagtk.so in place, "opera:config / Preferences Editor" shows (after playing with Print Preview) 0. | Remedy for ugly file dialogs is skin with skinned ones. | | e.g. http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=10071 This is an interesting link... I've never tried Opera skins... maybe I should... Thank you Artem and Jakub! -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 12:21:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A017106564A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215348FC0A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P5HNt-0000EZ-IO for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:21:41 -0700 Message-ID: <29933561.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:21:42 -0000 Alex Goncharov-4 wrote: > > > For me, with liboperagtk.so in place, "opera:config / Preferences > Editor" shows (after playing with Print Preview) 0. > > This is default, which is to autodetect, 1 is for Qt, while 2 is to use GTK. You should be able to force pure X, and then style this "ugly" dialogs with skins. (I personally use old 10.10 style, without Qt or GTK.) No need to delete liboperagtk.so. best regards, - Jakub Lach -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/VirtualBox-OpenSolaris-guest-tp29917864p29933561.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 13:59:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5D5106574C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=090090e301=ob@gruft.de) Received: from main.mx.e-gitt.net (service.rules.org [IPv6:2001:1560:2342::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8DD8FC18 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ob by main.mx.e-gitt.net with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1P5Iuf-00033C-Nr for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:59:37 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:59:37 +0200 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101011135937.GA76515@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <4C8627A6.1090308@icyb.net.ua> <20101008091231.GS2532@e-Gitt.NET> <20101008181213.c9511a15.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <4CAF4550.90607@FreeBSD.org> <20101009004033.d34998cb.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101009004033.d34998cb.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: ISDN4BSD removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:59:43 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 12:40:33AM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > Ehm, you tell them? You have them on the phone. :) > > If you are in a state to tell them, yes of course you do. However, the > situtation might mean that you aren't very coherent at all. All this doesn't exactly match the OP's problem, right? He wants to listen to his Voicemail (by mail) and maybe forward incoming calls to aother numbers. He did not want to use his FreeBSD to make emergency calls as far as I could figure out. for emergency calls he can still keep his mobile or if he feels safer his ISDN until they cut the line. The discussion is slightly going off topic. And yes, I feel guilty while I started it. However, I try to analyse his problem and point him not to focus to closely to ISDN _for the problem he described_ - so please, an generic what-if-I-die-on-the-phone-and-have-no-ISDN-discussion we should change at least to -talk or better to a completely different place, it has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Apart from that: If they locate my mobile within 300m radius and I can't speak - in the middle of Berlin I'm dead till they found the right office. - Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller http://sysadm.in/ ob@sysadm.in | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 14:57:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247FC106566B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C828D8FC16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so1363191vws.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=l2beaACtbX/RkF7X+Y0YbH/B2taw8YiYRMyRRfeGdUY=; b=cLZnD7sybjDe3M3oPNLN1lEjsFt7ip77d/BRLqVcaFWwl1T9bf42gIwEgUrHbyFRQG d0x/+CtNntRtOJz8lyW3T+IZ4qgixGPV6OVIY5ZSPvtcTYWpERBTFdNpGTbi89P7DKlS 4lMQslM8t+o0O+dJP2XCqw87dJjlOOHhmw7FI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Rn5nJ0vfDtzDfTnL+WedLBlbaPatl8eIWW5OkH/VvG+7ath663B2L6euvHY1Nmjt67 B9290jo2FxbwAJQgPfWXkNpae0TSfOwoYDOAjShROi19fkpr5y29u4HtLQhVQ7kGPM03 Wpey1MTXXkOQzLtjoGJcEY3UfV796/8zJfJxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.176.8 with SMTP id bc8mr1958249vcb.140.1286809035768; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: artemb@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.190.194 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <29933187.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> <29933187.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:57:15 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1IfWz3iFr4yjlvbupMYAO8I6T94 Message-ID: From: Artem Belevich To: Jakub Lach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:17 -0000 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Jakub Lach wrote: > Remedy for ugly file dialogs is skin with skinned ones. > > e.g. http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=10071 That may make them look better, but the main issue was that file open/save dialogs turned into a simple text input field w/o any way to browse for files. I think few other dialogs have lost their functionality, too. --Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 09:53:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF2A106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michal@sharescope.co.uk) Received: from mail1.sharescope.co.uk (mail1.ionic.co.uk [85.159.80.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A192A8FC1B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sharescope.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DE2FC0DD for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:34:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sharescope.co.uk Received: from mail1.sharescope.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.sharescope.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3B5FYbBCJlq for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:34:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (unknown [85.159.85.2]) (Authenticated sender: chris@sharescope.co.uk) by mail1.sharescope.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E901DFC0AD for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:34:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4CB42B7D.5050203@sharescope.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:33:49 +0100 From: Michal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ZFS and Storage Systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:53:08 -0000 Morning, Apologies for the basic question but I just want to make sure. I have been looking at storage systems like this one http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. I am guessing it would be a case of sorting the discs out, probably on some GUI or command line for the box it self, then using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...or is it not that simple? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:03:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039B1065670 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byshenknet@byshenk.net) Received: from core.byshenk.net (core.byshenk.net [62.58.73.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC20F8FC1E for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from core.byshenk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core.byshenk.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9CC4sPL094209; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:04:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from byshenknet@core.byshenk.net) Received: (from byshenknet@localhost) by core.byshenk.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o9CC4sgV094208; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:04:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from byshenknet) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:04:54 +0200 From: Greg Byshenk To: Michal Message-ID: <20101012120454.GC12467@core.byshenk.net> References: <4CB42B7D.5050203@sharescope.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB42B7D.5050203@sharescope.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on core.byshenk.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and Storage Systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:03:13 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: > Apologies for the basic question but I just want to make sure. I have > been looking at storage systems like this one > http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. I am guessing it would be a > case of sorting the discs out, probably on some GUI or command line for > the box it self, then using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the > drives...or is it not that simple? You say "using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...", which doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. What you would want, I think, is either a) an external FCAL or iSCSI box that you could connect to another machine (running FreeBSD or some other OS); or b) a 'storage' server upon which to install FreeBSD and use as a NAS system. It may be that the ICC system can export the drives, but it seems like an unnecessary complication. -- greg byshenk - gbyshenk@byshenk.net - Leiden, NL From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:43:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E29106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auryn@zirakzigil.org) Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org (mail.zirakzigil.org [82.63.178.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402818FC15 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4860103C53; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:42:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zirakzigil.org Received: from mail.zirakzigil.org ([192.168.1.2]) by localhost (ext.zirakzigil.org [192.168.1.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fkXsjHVkHD7G; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.9.202.158] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) (Authenticated sender: auryn@zirakzigil.org) by mail.zirakzigil.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 85D8D103C39; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB457C4.2020205@zirakzigil.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:42:44 +0200 From: Giulio Ferro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: nfsv4 with kgssapi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:43:41 -0000 I'm trying to setup a nfs server which uses the kerberized rpc header, so to overcome the problem with 16 groups: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg109809.html FreeBSD 8 amd64 stable last (yesterday) Following the man page for nfsv4 I have compiled the kernel with ----- options KGSSAPI device crypto ----- My files: /etc/exports ----- V4: /mydir -sec=krb5:krb5i:krb5p -network 192.168.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 ----- /etc/rc.conf ----- ... nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsv4_server_enable="YES" nfsuserd_enable="YES" gssd_enable="YES" ... ----- All daemons start ok, but in the logs I see: nfsd[...]: no gssd, using AUTH_SYS only Even though gssd is up and running. What's wrong? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:47:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8304510656C7 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E2F8FC16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de ([217.29.45.10]) by gate1.intern.punkt.de with ESMTP id o9CCDUwB072828; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9CCDTXW053243; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o9CCDTj9053242; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:29 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: Greg Byshenk Message-ID: <20101012121329.GA52923@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <4CB42B7D.5050203@sharescope.co.uk> <20101012120454.GC12467@core.byshenk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20101012120454.GC12467@core.byshenk.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Michal , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS and Storage Systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:47:39 -0000 Hello, On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:04:54PM +0200, Greg Byshenk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: > > http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. > > ... > You say "using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...", which > doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to > be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. To me these look like "storage servers", i.e. standard server hardware with room for a lot of hot pluggable drives. This point in their description seems to confirm that: + DSS Lite That's a Linux based commercial NAS system that you install or plug into standard servers to turn them into a NAS. See http://www.open-e.com/ So, IMHO, yes, you should be able to replace that DSS stuff with either stock FreeBSD or preferrably FreeNAS to turn one of these boxes into a ZFS based NAS. I'll check with the supplier before ordering, nonetheless. Best regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 12:56:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87945106566C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BB68FC0C for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:56:25 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAAT4s0yDaFvO/2dsb2JhbACDHp8jqjiSU4EigzJ0BIpB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,320,1283745600"; d="scan'208";a="95000259" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-annu-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 12 Oct 2010 08:56:23 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9889DB3F3E; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: Giulio Ferro Message-ID: <933937287.513420.1286888183571.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <4CB457C4.2020205@zirakzigil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [99.225.56.115] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.7_GA_2476.RHEL4 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.7_GA_2473.RHEL4_64) Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfsv4 with kgssapi X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:56:25 -0000 > I'm trying to setup a nfs server which uses the kerberized rpc > header, so to overcome the problem with 16 groups: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg109809.html > > > FreeBSD 8 amd64 stable last (yesterday) > > Following the man page for nfsv4 I have compiled the kernel with > ----- > options KGSSAPI > device crypto > ----- > > My files: > > > /etc/exports > ----- > V4: /mydir -sec=krb5:krb5i:krb5p -network 192.168.0 -mask > 255.255.255.0 You also need an entry for the file system ("/mydir" ??) like: /mydir -sec=krb5:krb5i:krb5p -network 192.168.0.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 (The V4: line only sets where the NFSv4 root is, it does not actually export the file system, so something like the above line is needed as well.) > > /etc/rc.conf > ----- > ... > nfs_server_enable="YES" > nfsv4_server_enable="YES" > nfsuserd_enable="YES" > gssd_enable="YES" > ... > ----- > > All daemons start ok, but in the logs I see: > nfsd[...]: no gssd, using AUTH_SYS only > > Even though gssd is up and running. > You need an entry in your default keytab file (/etc/krb5.keytab) for the principal: nfs/@ using encryption type des-cbc-crc. If you don't have that, it might explain why it isn't working. Check /var/log/messages for any indications that there is a problem. Also, you might want to look at http://code.google.com/p/macnfsv4/wiki/FreeBSD8KerberizedNFSSetup if you haven't done so already. Good luck with it, rick ps: Kerberized NFS works for NFSv3 as well. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 13:36:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938D410656D2 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769B38FC0A for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HoNS1f0071Y3wxoA5pczlz; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:36:59 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HpXy1f00B3LrwQ28bpXyzN; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:31:59 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FF7F9B425; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:31:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-ID: <20101012133158.GA32900@icarus.home.lan> References: <4CB42B7D.5050203@sharescope.co.uk> <20101012120454.GC12467@core.byshenk.net> <20101012121329.GA52923@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101012121329.GA52923@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Michal , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Greg Byshenk Subject: Re: ZFS and Storage Systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:36:59 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:13:29PM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:04:54PM +0200, Greg Byshenk wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Michal wrote: > > > http://www.icc-usa.com/storage-35-2u.asp. > > > ... > > > You say "using a FreeBSD box I can set up ZFS over the drives...", which > > doesn't make sense, if I undestand the ICC system. The device appears to > > be an NAS system, with an OS, not an external disk bay. > > To me these look like "storage servers", i.e. standard server > hardware with room for a lot of hot pluggable drives. This point > in their description seems to confirm that: It's interesting that the vendor (ICC) advertises this as a 12-disk box, yet it's only an 8-disk chassis. Additionally, the PSUs are 720W, not 800W, so I'm not sure why they claim that either. The chassis in question is almost certainly a Supermicro SC825TQ-R720UB, by the way: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/2U/825/SC825TQ-R720U.cfm The picture doesn't show the front bezel serial/USB ports mounted, but they're visible on the SuperServer 6026T-URF (which is probably what ICC is selling anyway, pre-populated with CPUs, RAM, etc.): http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/6026/SYS-6026T-URF.cfm > That's a Linux based commercial NAS system that you install or > plug into standard servers to turn them into a NAS. > > See http://www.open-e.com/ > > So, IMHO, yes, you should be able to replace that DSS stuff with > either stock FreeBSD or preferrably FreeNAS to turn one of these > boxes into a ZFS based NAS. I'll check with the supplier before > ordering, nonetheless. It would be even better to simply ask them what exact Supermicro hardware (specifically, model numbers) they're using to build these systems. You can see Supermicro mentioned in the of their site, so that's definitely what they're using, even down to the controller card offerings (some of which (Marvell) are known to behave oddly on FreeBSD (yes there are success stories, but there are also follow-up horror stories) -- consider yourself warned). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 15:03:10 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C06106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michal@sharescope.co.uk) Received: from mail1.sharescope.co.uk (mail1.ionic.co.uk [85.159.80.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0A78FC1D for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sharescope.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27733FC0AD for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:03:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sharescope.co.uk Received: from mail1.sharescope.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.sharescope.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mCpGf3mTk9hH for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:02:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.50] (unknown [85.159.85.2]) (Authenticated sender: chris@sharescope.co.uk) by mail1.sharescope.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EC22FC0AE for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:02:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4CB47881.7050808@sharescope.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:02:25 +0100 From: Michal <michal@sharescope.co.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ZFS and Storage Systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:03:10 -0000 > It would be even better to simply ask them what exact Supermicro > hardware (specifically, model numbers) they're using to build these > systems. You can see Supermicro mentioned in the<title> of their site, > so that's definitely what they're using, even down to the controller > card offerings (some of which (Marvell) are known to behave oddly on > FreeBSD (yes there are success stories, but there are also follow-up > horror stories) -- consider yourself warned). > I think the best option is to just build it your self using similar components which I have looked at before. My ideal is build a system where you can extend the storage easily by adding another box instead of either replacing the HDD's with bigger HDD's or having multiple targets for the data. One target whose storage can be expanded by simply adding another box. However, that is harder in practice to work out From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 18:35:48 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5175A1065679 for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294918FC0A for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F2AAE83558; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:17:51 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Message-ID: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: need help with BElkin KVM and USB mouse problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:35:48 -0000 Guys, I've been using FreeBSD since 2.0.5, so I _should_ know by now that not everything works with this OS; it's an unbeatable server, and maybe I should leave it at this. HEre is the situation: a friend installed a Belkin [SOHO] KVM switch. I am running Ubuntu on one desktop; FreeBSD on my server. (And FreeBSD on my old desktop.) The USB keyboard works fine everywhere. But my USB mouse fails on the FreeBSD platforms when I try to run X11. I *have* managed to get the mouse working without X [i.e., in console mode]; and yes, the cursor and the buttons work fine. But once I launch X--even simple apps like twm or ctwm, the mouse pointer is dead. I've been messing with /dev/ums0; it fails because it is busy. I just tried the trick of disabling the keyboard and the server failed at first to reboot. I am disabled and have one use of my left hand; thus too much messing with hardware is a bit dicey. Any ideas how I can get X _with_ mouse+keyboard working on my BSD platforms? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 18:51:00 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B427F106564A; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D6C8FC20; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9CIp0Au031323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:51:00 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 5AA661CC3E; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:51:00 -0700 (PDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:51:00 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:51:00 -0000 For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track of which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a good reason, could it be changed? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 18:56:51 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1870A1065675 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D995F8FC1C for <stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HpRx1f0031Y3wxoA8uwqKf; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:56:50 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Huwp1f0053LrwQ28buwpEC; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:56:49 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1AB189B418; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:56:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Message-ID: <20101012185649.GA38850@icarus.home.lan> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:56:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:51:00AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS > formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not > the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track of > which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. > > Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a > good reason, could it be changed? I'm not sure if you're talking about "tunefs -L", or glabel(8). If you're talking about glabel(8): gotta read the man page carefully. There's two types of labels: "automatic" (glabel label) and "manual" (glabel create). "Automatic" labels are stored in the disk metadata, so they're retained after reboots + loaded during tasting, etc.. "Manual" labels are temporary, and have to be manually set every time the system starts. As for "tunefs -L" -- I never quite understood what this was for given glabel's existence. I don't know if the two are synonymous in some way either. I'm certain someone here can shed light on that association, if any at all. HTH, FWIW... -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 18:57:24 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6301065673 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scaron@diablonet.net) Received: from sonnet.diablonet.net (sonnet.diablonet.net [75.144.70.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378338FC25 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sonnet.diablonet.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1F8773DD306; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sonnet.diablonet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E193DD301; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:38:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Caron <scaron@diablonet.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.64.1010121426410.86800@sonnet.diablonet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:17:49 +0000 Cc: scaron@diablonet.net Subject: No disks found on FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on Sun X4500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:57:24 -0000 Hi folks, I've been contracted to try and get FreeBSD up and running on a Sun Fire X4500 "thumper" type system. It's been claimed as far back as 2007 that this system is apparently supported with no major issues: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2007-May/003165.html However in trying both FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, 8.1-STABLE (9/2010), and 7.3-STABLE (9/2010), I am getting the exact same failure mode as this fellow: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=14887 The system boots up, I don't see anything pertaining to disks at all in the boot messages, and, unsurprisingly the installer claims that no disks are found. I've tried this just booting normally, hitting "6" at the boot menu and manually loading the mvs driver: load mvs boot Nothing works. I've tried disabling ACPI but that just causes FreeBSD to hang at boot. Tried falling back to 7.x-STABLE in the hopes that it would contain the pre-mvs SATA driver and that might work better but seems no results there. Tried re-scanning devices in the installer but it fails just as the poster on the forums reports - takes a second and nothing new ever comes up. Though I haven't actually verified this booting with something else e.g. Linux and looking at the PCI information, my understanding is that this system is based on the Marvell MV88SX6081 SATA controller which seems to be supported from looking at the source code of the mvs driver. The PCI ID string for this controller, 0x608111ab, is right there in the source. This isn't even a particularly new piece of hardware. Is there anyone out there who has a Sun Fire X4500 up and running OK with FreeBSD? If so - what's the secret? Is there something in the BIOS that I need to flip? Maybe there are different revs of this hardware each with a different SATA controller chip? I'm really interested in working in concert with someone in the know to do whatever it takes to hopefully get this resolved; if anyone can lend a hand please drop me a line. Thanks, -Sean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 11 11:52:44 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D06106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0110001101100100b@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7358FC16 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so1695269ewy.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zSKNjPkkEoTmvdqMkKsA+E3p5TYbPv/5RONoVLq1S6U=; b=UiI5qE6m63iT/tHiCAPJQRmKjGpr4uJtxQpLvodRaPJeh2YDNP1otVFZJmlloD8nwL TbwdXCiP8GYDlqhbyf4llLuHzXXj6Xv3G5rBf3/izhHpPJRFhv+lDeuamkWtBkzVAPnE uuGa2qs0Oslw4QFjrpGQUnzkdA0Jnj+guraRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SjkyWtG5ObMyu+BSdjjARyQlAceHZtCtqdj+kUKpWe1FCjl4wM/947x34JO8szHPPp rArxSTxQCb5yLsdYq5Uzr5j4BoK8hL/9T6JBPu3cF5+NPp3rN78FpHX58lde+8DuSyBA Pc5yFKPvfwjYF86AkZCrJQct8pDtH2Ud5k4dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.20.17 with SMTP id d17mr1731055ebb.21.1286797962333; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.19.11 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101008152938.I59829@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <AANLkTimUX8q3URrDg_CJmBXS_04_i0k=suX_tBcuitPD@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTi=xyr=AE_Y+6gnzwSFHyMKd4K6bMZ9g8mO7suYp@mail.gmail.com> <20101007204627.GA19849@icarus.home.lan> <20101008152938.I59829@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:42 +0000 Message-ID: <AANLkTikvGb9aP1qnXPY5i-B4x2KED6Njsdti8T-4dC9Z@mail.gmail.com> From: 1 0 <0110001101100100b@gmail.com> To: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:18:17 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Announcement - Typo X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:52:44 -0000 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > =A0> On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 07:59:21PM +0000, 1 0 wrote: > =A0> > There is a typo in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Announcement: > =A0> > > =A0> > # dd if=3D8.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D10240 = conv=3Dsync > =A0> > > =A0> > should be > =A0> > > =A0> > # dd if=3D8.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D1024k = conv=3Dsync > =A0> > =A0> AFAIK, this isn't a typo. > > 10240 is correct (10KiB), but I don't know the rationale for that size. Thank you, my mistake then :-) When I have closer contact with low level USB programming I will try to find the ratinale :-) :-) Best regards, --=20 0110001101100100 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 19:27:42 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7BE1065674 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from flo@smeets.im) Received: from mail.solomo.de (mail.solomo.de [IPv6:2a01:238:42c7:9a00::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9A28FC1B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.solomo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.solomo.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DB35C62; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:27:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vistream.de Received: from mail.solomo.de ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.solomo.de (mail.solomo.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kX82eU0ANeBj; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:27:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.122] (p50914346.dip.t-dialin.net [80.145.67.70]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.solomo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3A3C5C51; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:27:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4CB4B6A9.8080007@smeets.im> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:27:37 +0200 From: Florian Smeets <flo@smeets.im> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Caron <scaron@diablonet.net> References: <Pine.BSF.4.64.1010121426410.86800@sonnet.diablonet.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.1010121426410.86800@sonnet.diablonet.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No disks found on FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on Sun X4500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:27:42 -0000 On 12.10.10 20:38, Sean Caron wrote: > Hi folks, > Hi, > I've been contracted to try and get FreeBSD up and running on a Sun Fire > X4500 "thumper" type system. It's been claimed as far back as 2007 that > this system is apparently supported with no major issues: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2007-May/003165.html > > However in trying both FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, 8.1-STABLE (9/2010), and > 7.3-STABLE (9/2010), I am getting the exact same failure mode as this > fellow: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=14887 > > The system boots up, I don't see anything pertaining to disks at all in > the boot messages, and, unsurprisingly the installer claims that no > disks are found. > > I've tried this just booting normally, hitting "6" at the boot menu and > manually loading the mvs driver: > > load mvs > boot > On 8.1 try set hw.hptrr.attach_generic=0 load mvs boot After I set hw.hptrr.attach_generic to 0 mvs found all my disk. Without it I had the same problem you describe. HTH, Florian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 19:35:46 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B445D106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5DA8FC13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Hq3R1f0010x6nqcACvbltS; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:35:45 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Hvbk1f0083LrwQ28YvbkRE; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:35:45 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E3C79B418; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:35:44 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Sean Caron <scaron@diablonet.net> Message-ID: <20101012193544.GA39417@icarus.home.lan> References: <Pine.BSF.4.64.1010121426410.86800@sonnet.diablonet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.64.1010121426410.86800@sonnet.diablonet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: mav@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No disks found on FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on Sun X4500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:35:46 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:38:42PM -0400, Sean Caron wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been contracted to try and get FreeBSD up and running on a Sun > Fire X4500 "thumper" type system. It's been claimed as far back as > 2007 that this system is apparently supported with no major issues: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2007-May/003165.html > > However in trying both FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, 8.1-STABLE (9/2010), and > 7.3-STABLE (9/2010), I am getting the exact same failure mode as > this fellow: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=14887 > > The system boots up, I don't see anything pertaining to disks at all > in the boot messages, and, unsurprisingly the installer claims that > no disks are found. > > I've tried this just booting normally, hitting "6" at the boot menu > and manually loading the mvs driver: > > load mvs > boot > > Nothing works. I've tried disabling ACPI but that just causes > FreeBSD to hang at boot. > > ... > > Though I haven't actually verified this booting with something else > e.g. Linux and looking at the PCI information, my understanding is > that this system is based on the Marvell MV88SX6081 SATA controller > which seems to be supported from looking at the source code of the > mvs driver. The PCI ID string for this controller, 0x608111ab, is > right there in the source. This isn't even a particularly new piece > of hardware. > > Is there anyone out there who has a Sun Fire X4500 up and running OK > with FreeBSD? If so - what's the secret? Is there something in the > BIOS that I need to flip? Maybe there are different revs of this > hardware each with a different SATA controller chip? > > I'm really interested in working in concert with someone in the know > to do whatever it takes to hopefully get this resolved; if anyone > can lend a hand please drop me a line. My recommendation: Boot a FreeBSD LiveFS CD[1] in verbose mode (it's one of the boot menu items). Once you have a shell, mount a USB flash drive, floppy drive, or anything that you can write to and save output from the following two commands into separate files then provide them here (links preferred; sometimes the mailing list eats MIME attachments): $ dmesg -a $ pciconf -lvc This should help in determining what might be going on. I'm advocating verbose boot because if there's an mvs(4) controller detected but it's not attaching/initialising correctly, verbose mode might indicate what's going on. Hard to say. If you find that there's no mvs(4) driver being attached, you can try hitting "6" to drop to the loader prompt, enter "load mvs" like you have been, then "boot -v" to boot verbose. You might want to save output from doing that too into separate files as well. I'm also CC'ing mav@ who works on the mvs(4) driver. [1]: Snag an appropriate 8.1-STABLE-201009 snapshot if you could, from whatever mirror suits you best, e.g.: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201009/ -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 19:56:38 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79861065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@pollux.local.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418708FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pollux.local.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8F14C8140 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:56:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pollux.local.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 747BF2842C; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:56:29 +0200 From: Harald Weis <hawei@free.fr> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101012195629.GC27117@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <E1P4Hlj-000OG8-L8@hanssachs.home> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> <E1P4hoF-000Pul-IL@hanssachs.home> <op.vkb9spuxqvde5b@bolt.zol> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <op.vkb9spuxqvde5b@bolt.zol> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:56:38 -0000 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 04:42:17AM +0200, Emil Smolenski wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:22:31 +0200, Alex Goncharov > <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> wrote: > > >www/opera won't work with flash (it seems first). > > It works for me for years. Just install www/opera, > www/opera-linuxplugins, www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. Don't install any > www/nspluginwrapper* ports. Many thanks to everybody for all your messages. I've decided to try first opera, then Debian guest. And I "forget" OpenSolaris. www/opera built and installed quickly. I really like it, except for the crash on exit. The workaround does apply for me as well. www/opera-linuxplugins stopped with ===> Installing for linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ===> Generating temporary packing list brandelf: error opening file usr/bin/xmlwf: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/linux-f10-expat. ===>>> Installation of linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 (textproc/linux-f10-expat) failed ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for textproc/linux-f10-expat failed ===>>> Aborting update This is exactly the sort of problem I've encountered whenever I tried to install all that linux stuff required just for the Flash plugin some weeks after all other ports. The Handbook procedure for Firefox and Flash Plugin worked always fine if I've installed it at the same time as all the rest (500+ ports). Please note that I never forget to read /usr/ports/UPDATING. I hope this time everything else will continue to work. Normally, the error messages did not help me to repair the disaster in the case of, for example, suddenly missing shared libraries here and there. This is the reason why the idea to install VirtualBox seemed very attractive to me. The FreeBSD system is kept "clean" of that large emulators/linux_base-f10 port. The next step is VirtualBox Debian guest. Okay, these are both large pieces of software. But if it works for Debian, it'll be a useful experience for flash and perhaps other ports like net-p2p/jigdo I never heard of... Thanks again, Harald Weis PS: When trying to send the message the disaster occurred! Output of the delivery process -- (all) Error sending message, child exited 1 (). /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0: Shared object has no run-time +symbol table --- If the message finally goes out it is thanks to perl-after-upgrade. And re-installation of devel/pcre. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:01:26 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB048106564A; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from gilb.zs64.net (gilb.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1ea]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CC98FC08; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gilb.zs64.net (Postfix, from stb@lassitu.de) id 54308AD199; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:01:24 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <BFE34769-8E27-47C6-A3B1-734CE5A0806D@lassitu.de> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:01:26 -0000 Am 12.10.2010 um 20:51 schrieb Kevin Oberman: > For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every = UFS > formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not > the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track = of > which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. In 8, only the ones that are not mounted are removed; they are restored = on unmount. So when you mount the filesystem via it's label, that entry = continues to exist. And it's not limited to any particular label type, = I've noticed the same with partitions that I used gmirror on. IIRC, in 7 only the device entry remained, and all label entries were = removed on mount. > Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a > good reason, could it be changed? I don't know, but I'm curious myself. When I asked this very question = some time ago, I didn't get a response. Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:09:45 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F42106564A for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from gilb.zs64.net (gilb.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1ea]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5826F8FC22 for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gilb.zs64.net (Postfix, from stb@lassitu.de) id 6407AAD3F4; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:09:44 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:09:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4FFC682B-4261-4CD8-A533-36559605BE11@lassitu.de> References: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: need help with BElkin KVM and USB mouse problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:09:45 -0000 Am 12.10.2010 um 20:17 schrieb Gary Kline: > The USB keyboard works fine everywhere. But my USB mouse fails on > the FreeBSD platforms when I try to run X11. I *have* managed to get > the mouse working without X [i.e., in console mode]; and yes, the > cursor and the buttons work fine. But once I launch X--even simple > apps like twm or ctwm, the mouse pointer is dead.=20 It doesn't sound like this issue is connected to your using a KVM at = all, but rather your X configuration. If you have a second USB mouse, = try plugging that in in addition to the KVM and see if there's any = difference; I'm guessing not. Check you X config, and make sure dbus and hald are enabled in rc.conf = and started. Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:19:38 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9E9106564A; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97BC8FC16; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9CKJc8d023559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:19:38 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 0E4351CC3E; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:19:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:01:24 +0200." <BFE34769-8E27-47C6-A3B1-734CE5A0806D@lassitu.de> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:19:38 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20101012201938.0E4351CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:19:38 -0000 > From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:01:24 +0200 > > Am 12.10.2010 um 20:51 schrieb Kevin Oberman: > > > For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS > > formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not > > the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > > makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track of > > which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > > issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. > > In 8, only the ones that are not mounted are removed; they are > restored on unmount. So when you mount the filesystem via it's label, > that entry continues to exist. And it's not limited to any particular > label type, I've noticed the same with partitions that I used gmirror > on. Sorry, but my experience in contrary to that. I mount "/dev/ufs/aux" and that device name is returned by df(1), but 'ls /dev/ufs' no longer contains 'aux'. This broke gnome-mount and required patching hald to ignore device created in /dev/ufs. Otherwise, when the device was removed, the /dev/ufs device was re-created, a devd creation event occurred and the partition was immediately re-mounted. It made it impossible to unplug the USB drive. Joe Marcus added a test of the created device to hald so the creation of /dev/ufs/aux would be ignored and the device always mounted by the hardware device name. This all works fine for msdosfs systems. The /dev/msdosfs entry does stay around when the device is mounted as /dev/msdosfs and all is well. I'd like to see consistent behavior before we get to making devicekit work with FreeBSD. (devicekit will replace hald some day.) > > IIRC, in 7 only the device entry remained, and all label entries were > removed on mount. > > > Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a > > good reason, could it be changed? > > I don't know, but I'm curious myself. When I asked this very question > some time ago, I didn't get a response. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:21:18 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F994106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B9B8FC1A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HnkM1f0011ZXKqc55wMJZz; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:21:18 +0000 Received: from hanssachs.home ([24.61.85.144]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HwMH1f00Y36qgMk3hwMJWq; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:21:18 +0000 Received: from algo by hanssachs.home with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <algo@hanssachs.home>) id 1P5lLY-000Caa-MC; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:21:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:21:16 -0400 Message-Id: <E1P5lLY-000Caa-MC@hanssachs.home> From: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> To: Harald Weis <hawei@free.fr> In-reply-to: <20101012195629.GC27117@pollux.local.net> (message from Harald Weis on Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:56:29 +0200) References: <20101008180046.GA2867@pollux.local.net> <E1P4Hlj-000OG8-L8@hanssachs.home> <20101009203629.GA2135@pollux.local.net> <E1P4hoF-000Pul-IL@hanssachs.home> <op.vkb9spuxqvde5b@bolt.zol> <20101012195629.GC27117@pollux.local.net> Sender: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox OpenSolaris guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:21:18 -0000 ,--- You/Harald (Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:56:29 +0200) ----* | www/opera built and installed quickly. I really like it, except for the | crash on exit. The workaround does apply for me as well. | | www/opera-linuxplugins stopped with | | ===> Installing for linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 | ===> Generating temporary packing list | brandelf: error opening file usr/bin/xmlwf: No such file or directory | *** Error code 1 Do you have this: -------------------- kldstat | grep linux => 9 1 0xffffffff80c4b000 1ca6a linux.ko mount -p | grep /compat/linux => linprocfs /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 -------------------- | This is exactly the sort of problem I've encountered whenever I tried to | install all that linux stuff required just for the Flash plugin some weeks | after all other ports. I believe you need to figure these things out, Flash or not Flash. Looks like Linux compatibility issues; they should not be that hard to fix. Start with the basics: ---------- emulators/linux_base-f10 x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs textproc/linux-f10-aspell ---------- look at your logs, make sure that all installs correctly. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:39:08 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410D0106564A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDF08FC1A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9CK97IQ009508; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9CK97JM009505; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20101012185649.GA38850@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010121358180.9408@wonkity.com> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <20101012185649.GA38850@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:39:08 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:51:00AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS >> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. Not here. >> This is not the case for other file systems, though I have not tried >> them all. It makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have >> to keep track of which physical drive contains the labeled media. It >> is a particular issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. >> >> Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a >> good reason, could it be changed? > > I'm not sure if you're talking about "tunefs -L", or glabel(8). > > If you're talking about glabel(8): gotta read the man page carefully. > There's two types of labels: "automatic" (glabel label) and "manual" > (glabel create). > > "Automatic" labels are stored in the disk metadata, so they're retained > after reboots + loaded during tasting, etc.. "Manual" labels are > temporary, and have to be manually set every time the system starts. > > As for "tunefs -L" -- I never quite understood what this was for given > glabel's existence. I don't know if the two are synonymous in some way > either. I'm certain someone here can shed light on that association, if > any at all. glabel(8): This class also provides volume label detection for file systems. Those labels cannot be set with glabel, but must be set with the appropriate file system utility, e.g. for UFS the file system label is set with tunefs(8). For reference: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ahci.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 20:41:50 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7E21065672; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from gilb.zs64.net (gilb.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1ea]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD21F8FC0C; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gilb.zs64.net (Postfix, from stb@lassitu.de) id 9DCAEAD91B; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:41:48 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <20101012201938.0E4351CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:41:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <37370332-E112-4669-ABE8-0F908AE39566@lassitu.de> References: <20101012201938.0E4351CC3E@ptavv.es.net> To: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:41:50 -0000 Am 12.10.2010 um 22:19 schrieb Kevin Oberman: >> From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> >> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:01:24 +0200 >>=20 >> Am 12.10.2010 um 20:51 schrieb Kevin Oberman: >>=20 >>> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every = UFS >>> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is = not >>> the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. = It >>> makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track = of >>> which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular >>> issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. >>=20 >> In 8, only the ones that are not mounted are removed; they are >> restored on unmount. So when you mount the filesystem via it's = label, >> that entry continues to exist. And it's not limited to any = particular >> label type, I've noticed the same with partitions that I used gmirror >> on. >=20 > Sorry, but my experience in contrary to that. I mount "/dev/ufs/aux" = and > that device name is returned by df(1), but 'ls /dev/ufs' no longer > contains 'aux'. This broke gnome-mount and required patching hald to > ignore device created in /dev/ufs. Otherwise, when the device was > removed, the /dev/ufs device was re-created, a devd creation event > occurred and the partition was immediately re-mounted. It made it > impossible to unplug the USB drive. >=20 > Joe Marcus added a test of the created device to hald so the creation = of > /dev/ufs/aux would be ignored and the device always mounted by the > hardware device name. >=20 > This all works fine for msdosfs systems. The /dev/msdosfs entry does > stay around when the device is mounted as /dev/msdosfs and all is > well. I'd like to see consistent behavior before we get to making > devicekit work with FreeBSD. (devicekit will replace hald some day.) This got me curious, so I fired up my -stable VM. I only tried UFS, but = label entries do not reappear constently, at least in the quick test I = did. And I still don't understand why they get removed in the first = place. root@freebsd8:~# uname -a FreeBSD freebsd8.lassitu.de 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #2 r212724: = Thu Sep 16 15:22:34 UTC 2010 = root@freebsd8.lassitu.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MINIMAL amd64 Here's what I tried with a 1 gig stick that probes as: umass0: <Kingston DataTraveler 2.0, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.10, addr 2> on = usbus1 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0=20 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 (Not = ready to ready change, medium may have changed) da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da2: <Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 = device=20 da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: 984MB (2015232 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 984C) root@freebsd8:~# gpart create -s gpt /dev/da2 da2 created root@freebsd8:~# gpart add -s 256m -l ufs -t freebsd-ufs da2 da2p1 added root@freebsd8:~# gpart list da2 Geom name: da2 fwheads: 64 fwsectors: 32 last: 2015198 first: 34 entries: 128 scheme: GPT Providers: 1. Name: da2p1 Mediasize: 268435456 (256M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 rawtype: 516e7cb6-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b label: ufs length: 268435456 offset: 17408 type: freebsd-ufs index: 1 end: 524321 start: 34 Consumers: 1. Name: da2 Mediasize: 1031798784 (984M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gpt ufs root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gptid bba94c8e-d63f-11df-888c-000c295e330a root@freebsd8:~# newfs -L ufslabel /dev/da2p1 /dev/da2p1: 256.0MB (524288 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size = 2048 using 4 cylinder groups of 64.02MB, 4097 blks, 8256 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160, 131264, 262368, 393472 root@freebsd8:~# mount /dev/da2p1 /mnt root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gpt root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/ufs root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gptid root@freebsd8:~# umount /mnt root@freebsd8:~# mount /dev/ufs/ufslabel /mnt root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/da2p1 /dev/da2p1 root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gpt root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/ufs ufslabel root@freebsd8:~# ls /dev/gptid root@freebsd8:~# umount /mnt root@freebsd8:~# ls -l /dev/da2p1 /dev/gpt /dev/gptid /dev/ufs crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 103 Oct 12 20:34 /dev/da2p1 /dev/gpt: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 111 Oct 12 20:34 ufs /dev/gptid: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 112 Oct 12 20:34 = bba94c8e-d63f-11df-888c-000c295e330a /dev/ufs: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Oct 12 20:34 ufslabel I then unplugged and replugged the stick: root@freebsd8:~# ls -l /dev/da2p1 /dev/gpt /dev/gptid /dev/ufs crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 103 Oct 12 20:34 /dev/da2p1 /dev/gpt: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 111 Oct 12 20:34 ufs /dev/gptid: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 112 Oct 12 20:34 = bba94c8e-d63f-11df-888c-000c295e330a /dev/ufs: total 0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Oct 12 20:34 ufslabel --=20 Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 21:07:38 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AB91065672; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0098FC08; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9CL7ZY4022187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:07:37 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 7A2E11CC41; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:07:35 -0700 (PDT) To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 MDT." <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010121358180.9408@wonkity.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:07:35 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20101012210735.7A2E11CC41@ptavv.es.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:07:38 -0000 > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:09:07 -0600 (MDT) > From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:51:00AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS > >> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. > > Not here. Thanks! You have pointed me away from a bogus assumption that was held over from V7. I have confirmed that, when a UFS device is mounted under the /dev/ufs/label, the entry stays. The problem is different on V8, but presents itself in the same way. The problem is that every mount and umount of a UFS file system causes a devd event for the CREATE of /dev/da0s2d. Never a DESTROY, but a CREATE every time I either mount or umount the device. So the real issue is "Why is there a devd CREATE whenever the device is mounted or unmounted by the /dev/ufs entry. I just tried an msdosfs system and no create of the hardware device. So the real question is "Why is there a devd create for the hardware device (e.g. /dev/da0s2d). I suspect this is related to the partition as the slice is only created once. Still something's odd with UFS. Devices should no be repeatedly created without ever being destroyed. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 21:14:57 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90010106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boski.cezar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5E58FC08 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh2 with SMTP id 2so1450163ywh.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c9PkjZQ/wa+Zl0KT5rQxPnAH5KWM4sQKXB7qDTqWH9s=; b=lt1Sey+eoy721EviE2KPKHY7LDAZDTEC69Z1OdviW57xZth+co1JjorwCgdIo6XqSA ZleHvQwKm5LuIOAv9U25p6P9Eqn/CnUuosye63TBOisj+6JSG/xRfa3SufBvFXFe3kMD MkEZI49Cw08jVEbxL1oiFs/72OrZnhjXpdYN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=ITlGXIvaeK4Uqj+67WT5EkrZW9B6xT0xpOsL6xvpvf2wmfZyOzNHntYSWS21YHGRH3 80S4DBLUO+dvsZ6t9PYnQZ5896P4/jbN8/kLx5ibP+8mUGllN5RJw7DAZHFZWfl8dNeq CRmKeFoTEWBoM/s2CF1PCqtA+gjoFChSEnBZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.5.195 with SMTP id 3mr3010247icx.98.1286916628172; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: boski.cezar@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.205.197 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:50:28 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gXe16P6GLItXkJEfDgveZKWkKKk Message-ID: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> From: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:14:57 -0000 Hi folks, For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 How to get rid of it? 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Thanks, Nickson From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 12 23:48:22 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B495106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F868FC13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 82213E8357C; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:48:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Message-ID: <20101012234816.GE4957@thought.org> References: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> <4FFC682B-4261-4CD8-A533-36559605BE11@lassitu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FFC682B-4261-4CD8-A533-36559605BE11@lassitu.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: need help with BElkin KVM and USB mouse problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:48:22 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:09:43PM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 12.10.2010 um 20:17 schrieb Gary Kline: > > > The USB keyboard works fine everywhere. But my USB mouse fails on > > the FreeBSD platforms when I try to run X11. I *have* managed to get > > the mouse working without X [i.e., in console mode]; and yes, the > > cursor and the buttons work fine. But once I launch X--even simple > > apps like twm or ctwm, the mouse pointer is dead. > > It doesn't sound like this issue is connected to your using a KVM at all, but rather your X configuration. If you have a second USB mouse, try plugging that in in addition to the KVM and see if there's any difference; I'm guessing not. > > Check you X config, and make sure dbus and hald are enabled in rc.conf and started. > A friend on -questions suggested that hal might be interfering. I axed it from /etc/rc.conf. Given that both mouse+keyboard are USB, what port should I be using... ? I have tried editing my xorg.conf file. Zip so far. I'll have my wife switch from my "Logitech" to an el-cheapo M$ USB mouse. See if anything happens... thanks, gary > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 03:20:19 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5F1065674; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406B48FC13; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43618E8357E; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:20:19 -0000 New issues below... On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 01:43:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > > The guy who set up my KVM/mouse deal thinks I would be better > > off just having a service do my hosting; I am close to agreeing. > > It it possible that you recently had mail problems? When fetchmail'ing > today's bunch of messages, I got the error message that thought.org > did not resolve... but seems to work again now. > Right. For some reason my server has seemed to die without notice. I'm pretty sure it is operator error, :-) ... things seem stable for the past few hours. --One thing is that I have been rebooting or deliberately crashing/rebooting when there was no other way. Be nice if ctl-alt-delete still worked.... > > > > Clearly, the Beklin model I have only supports USB keybd+mouse. > > They sell another that does USB and PS/2, but I didn't think of > > that gotcha. > > The problem might be related to USB handling on FreeBSD, I think. > >From your reports I see that there are no keyboard problems when > switching from / to the FreeBSD box, but the mouse doesn't fully > work. Did you get X working in the meantime? Switching around by the buttons [say from my new desktop to the server] is not a problem. The mouse only works in certain rare cases. Sometimes the mouse shakes violently and jumps around. I tried the "poll" string, but it died after a few moments, so I sh moused stop. And the server was okay. I have gotten # startx to present the trio of twm screens. Usually the keyboard is dead and the mouse cursor is frozen. The times I _have_ gotten the mouse to act smoothly [in console mode], when I do a `startx', someimes I can type into the center xterm [twm], but there is no mouse cursor. I just looked at the handbook "2.10.10 Mouse Settings" I am running 7.2 on the server, not that old, but the text does not match what I see on my sysinstall screen. // cut and paste This option will allow you to cut and paste text in the console and user programs with a 3-button mouse. If using a 2-button mouse, refer to manual page, moused(8), after installation for details on emulating the 3-button style. This example depicts a non-USB mouse configuration (such as a PS/2 or COM port mouse): User Confirmation Requested Does this system have a PS/2, serial, or bus mouse? [ Yes ] No Select [ Yes ] for a PS/2, serial or bus mouse, or [ No ] for a USB mouse and press Enter. Figure 2-42. Select Mouse Protocol Type [[ GRAPHIC ]] I mouse down to the Post-install section of the sysinstall menu. I do not see anything like the "User Confirmation Requested, [[etc]]" that lets me select Yes or No. *This may be what has been causing the trouble. What I _do_ see is just the graph that begins, "You can cut and paste text... ." etc. Nowhere do I see an option to select the USB protocol; it is only the PS/2 stuff. ..... > > > > > The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on > > /dev/sysmouse. > > Yes - if one is present. At least X can be set to use sysmouse as > pointer device, but it is not a symlink to either a USB or PS/2 > mouse. Currently, I'm using a Sun USB mouse, and there is > > crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/sysmouse > > as well as > > crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 122 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/ums0 > > If this does survive a KVM switch-over, all is fine. Yup:: p0 19:51 Server <ethic> [5002] ll sysmouse 0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 11 Oct 12 17:12 sysmouse and, 0 crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 44 Oct 12 17:12 ums0 So, both devices are there. Just that when I set the mouse to the latter, /dev/ums0, the kernel sees it always as busy. A poster to our -stable lists thought it might be hald bug, so I commented out that in /etc/rc.conf. BZZZT. It's back:) > > > > > Thru the sysinstall script, I see a mouse active > > in not-X11 but in console-mode. And the /device for that tweak > > is missing from the /dev table. > > I read that as follows: The sysinstall program initializes a mouse > and provides a cursor in text mode, means: mouse DOES WORK in text > mode, but not in X. > > This is part 1 of the solution. You can now check what happens when > you switch off / to the FreeBSD box - to see if the mouse does still > work in text mode. > > Part 2 would be to review X settings. > > > > > I *can* get some mouse pointer working in one of at least two > > ways. AS plain /dev/sysinstall, the mouse pointer jumps all > > over the screen untill I sh-exec /etc/rc.d/mouse with the "poll" > > arg. Having a pointer in console mode tells me that at least > > FreeBSD does know the mouse is there, but I am out of ideas. > > I think it is X (again, ah...) having problems here. > > > > > Nutshell:: whatever, nothing mouse works in X11. That was the > > whole point of this exercise. > > Then you might be able to solve the problem when you check the > configuration file for X (or its absence, but then, the presence > of HAL and DBUS services). Will you please check out this posting: http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do anything... gary > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 03:49:58 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE3D1065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.dowsley@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D938FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:49:58 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (110-175-193-74.static.tpgi.com.au [110.175.193.74]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0LA7001PFJV3CI50@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:49:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1010120176 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-10-13_01:2010-10-13, 2010-10-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> From: Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:50:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: / full (107% !!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:49:58 -0000 Gentles Just did a csup and rebuilt world and kernel, as usual. Rebooted to single user mode, and kicked off the installkernel. This bombed with an "unable to write to device", and "device full". On rebooting, df shows / at 107%. Has something changed? I had simply used the default partitioning offered when freeBSD 8.0 was installed. Can anyone suggest what could be pruned out to bring / back to under 100%? (FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on an old Compaq with a 30GB HDD) TIA JeffD _____________________________ M 0427565791 jeff.dowsley@mac.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 04:16:08 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509C106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ACF8FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901293D257; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9D3x7Jd002485; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:59:06 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Message-Id: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:16:08 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > I just looked at the handbook "2.10.10 Mouse Settings" I am > running 7.2 on the server, not that old, but the text does not > match what I see on my sysinstall screen. > > // cut and paste > > > This option will allow you to cut and paste text in the console and > user programs with a 3-button mouse. If using a 2-button mouse, > refer to manual page, moused(8), after installation for details on > emulating the 3-button style. This example depicts a non-USB mouse > configuration (such as a PS/2 or COM port mouse): > > User Confirmation Requested > Does this system have a PS/2, serial, or bus mouse? > > [ Yes ] No > > Select [ Yes ] for a PS/2, serial or bus mouse, or [ No ] for a USB > mouse and press Enter. > > Figure 2-42. Select Mouse Protocol Type > > [[ GRAPHIC ]] > > I mouse down to the Post-install section of the sysinstall menu. > I do not see anything like the > > "User Confirmation Requested, [[etc]]" > > that lets me select Yes or No. *This may be what has been > causing the trouble. What I _do_ see is just the graph that > begins, "You can cut and paste text... ." etc. Nowhere do I > see an option to select the USB protocol; it is only the PS/2 > stuff. ..... USB mice get autodetected and autoactivated (by the USB subsystem), so there is no need to configure them. Currently I have no such setting in /etc/rc.conf, and mouse works. I think you should look at "Configuring X" rather than the system's mouse setting, as X seems to work independently. There's a section about that in the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html > > > The kernel is set for PS/2 mice and evidently sticks them on > > > /dev/sysmouse. > > > > Yes - if one is present. At least X can be set to use sysmouse as > > pointer device, but it is not a symlink to either a USB or PS/2 > > mouse. Currently, I'm using a Sun USB mouse, and there is > > > > crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/sysmouse > > > > as well as > > > > crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 122 Oct 13 01:31 /dev/ums0 > > > > If this does survive a KVM switch-over, all is fine. > > > Yup:: > > p0 19:51 Server <ethic> [5002] ll sysmouse > 0 crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 11 Oct 12 17:12 sysmouse > > and, > > 0 crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 44 Oct 12 17:12 ums0 > > > So, both devices are there. Just that when I set the mouse to > the latter, /dev/ums0, the kernel sees it always as busy. A > poster to our -stable lists thought it might be hald bug, so I > commented out that in /etc/rc.conf. BZZZT. It's back:) Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. How it is to be done is described here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html You can only have ONE of the following settings, as far as I understood the current state of X: a) X with HAL and DBUS, no xorg.conf b) X with HAL and DBUS, with xorg.conf c) X without HAL and DBUS, with xorg.conf So your way would be now to (1st) disable HAL and DBUS from the system and then (2nd) configure X not to require them. Another (maybe 3rd) option is to recompile X without HAL and DBUS require- ments. > Will you please check out this posting: > > http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html > > The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the > moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do > anything... Yes, sounds familiar... It is to be interpreted as follows: If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem will call moused with the correct settings automatically. If you use a PS/2 or serial mouse, set moused_enable="YES" and also set the needed options like _port and _type, and maybe _flags, so moused can take care of the mouse. The USB system is not involved here. I really think you should concentrate on configuring X's mouse handling, as the system's seems to work in a correct manner. Suggested TODO: 1. Disable HAL and DBUS per rc.conf 2. Create xorg.conf # X -configure # cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf 3. Enter AutoAddDevices setting to xorg.conf as described http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html 4. ??? 5. Profit! :-) Oh, and don't forget to reboot. Medieval times... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 04:31:11 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91459106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754DC8FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J3Ax1f0011smiN4AC4XBgo; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J4X91f00Q3LrwQ28g4XAG2; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:10 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 84D499B418; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:31:09 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20101013043109.GA48051@icarus.home.lan> References: <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>, Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:31:11 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 05:59:06AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:20:18 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > > Will you please check out this posting: > > > > http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd.bugs/2002-03/msg00032.html > > > > The way that the mose config worked as to turn off the > > moused_enable, to moused_enable="NO". Didn't seem to do > > anything... > > Yes, sounds familiar... > > It is to be interpreted as follows: > > If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > will call moused with the correct settings automatically. Correction -- it's devd(8) which auto-launches moused, not the USB subsystem. See /etc/devd.conf and look for the 'ums[0-9]+' entries. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. 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Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 (FreeBSD/20051231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC1A4F11AA08037FC23B7932B" X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1286945789 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp2.mail.yandex.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:12:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC1A4F11AA08037FC23B7932B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12.10.2010 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote: > For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UF= S > formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not > the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track of= > which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. >=20 > Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a > good reason, could it be changed? When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) initiates SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this provider except one will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) initiates TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom for details. --=20 WBR, Andrey V. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:19:27 -0000 2010/10/13 Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com>: > Gentles > > Just did a csup and rebuilt world and kernel, as usual. > > Rebooted to single user mode, and kicked off the installkernel. > > This bombed with an "unable to write to device", and "device full". > > On rebooting, df shows / at 107%. > > Has something changed? =A0I had simply used the default partitioning offe= red > when freeBSD 8.0 was installed. > > Can anyone suggest what could be pruned out to bring / back to under 100%= ? > > (FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on an old Compaq with a 30GB HDD) > If I correct then you installed first version 8.1-RELEASE. There was / default size of 512MB and due to larger kernel during your installkernel backup copy of your existing kernel was done and then installed new kernel tree /boot/kernel. Unfortunately 512MB is not enough and that's why snapshot version of 8.1-STABLE got 1024MB / partition by default now. Download from here: ftp://ftp10.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201009/ Andrei Kolu Raidon Raalid O=DC From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 05:32:05 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182611065674 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBE68FC15 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2077165fxm.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:32:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FXnXcGLlccxboy1B56cLg/Benfc+SqFxUp6sgTyZ2p8=; b=F5dyInlIv+Y+9NtVEwEPh3bNSHHVlequ0lZtznt/0I2jZuNDdQpi4VZwLZtuV/LMKp h0NGIo9yL0h49Ofagg/iSWFi1jSeDDx/I9i7TLZDQk6o18ZqCmjTeK36qxiC6oSghxZr 3TI+S1g6c4hQp+RPD8humfUYqSTnGWn84u+Ek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JPvNqxMpsH6rtBQJLZCq9KvoZhj8CVN0/rDetRokNFRsgdJQZnPxZ7Y4SQw1bjcwMO b0+MeEV3NnPO2VHJrbfiMwNp8DvqOuFDwzlCPOw8yGP8kOkXjTNLwWNRbuH6cESSf3DS /INdMLATb/5P4RmrjZM3XlRFzBAIyjS60aNBg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.2.5 with SMTP id e5mr1179728mui.103.1286947923234; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.121.13 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:32:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> References: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:32:03 -0500 Message-ID: <AANLkTimieYrVtOANGUdECsc=_avY_HyQ4yemQMiwKUds@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> To: Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / full (107% !!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:32:05 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com> wrote: > Just did a csup and rebuilt world and kernel, as usual. > > Rebooted to single user mode, and kicked off the installkernel. > > This bombed with an "unable to write to device", and "device full". > > On rebooting, df shows / at 107%. > > Has something changed? I had simply used the default partitioning offered > when freeBSD 8.0 was installed. > > Can anyone suggest what could be pruned out to bring / back to under 100%? > > (FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on an old Compaq with a 30GB HDD) > If you don't need kernel debugging caps, /boot/kernel/*.symbols and /boot/kernel.old/*.symbols are good candidates. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 05:58:10 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA62106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bu7cher@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2.mail.yandex.net (forward2.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443E98FC08 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (smtp3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.103]) by forward2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A7F4A38A8C10; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:43:07 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1286948587; bh=UkQr4yPMtudyvi34mSHbS3TlFYF9XURbjTxtISigK6g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=fUh8gm1s2x4skG5v1SJTO8t6iBDzqzvxVGfxA7Sz038jWUKF9tyiTG717RY/JHJYw e5X+qwdrfQhoIXcINBzF00bRpynfLAECuRb+3IlkBR3wW7ZmHnjsTq5gymyUGqQ4an q/khAw4rNov8N8q3qjhPifg+872RG8Otkv5VpM8M= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (mail.kirov.so-cdu.ru [77.72.136.145]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 6CA0C2780AA; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:43:07 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4CB546E7.5040401@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:43:03 +0400 From: "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 (FreeBSD/20051231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> References: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> <AANLkTimieYrVtOANGUdECsc=_avY_HyQ4yemQMiwKUds@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimieYrVtOANGUdECsc=_avY_HyQ4yemQMiwKUds@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0FCD05F87B4B82D527C3EB72" X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1286948587 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp3.mail.yandex.net Cc: Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / full (107% !!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:58:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0FCD05F87B4B82D527C3EB72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13.10.2010 9:32, Adam Vande More wrote: > If you don't need kernel debugging caps, /boot/kernel/*.symbols and > /boot/kernel.old/*.symbols are good candidates. You can do `make installkernel -DINSTALL_NODEBUG` and *.symbols files will not be installed. --=20 WBR, Andrey V. 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Elsukov <bu7cher@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:29:10 -0000 Am 13.10.2010 um 06:56 schrieb Andrey V. Elsukov: > On 12.10.2010 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every = UFS >> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is = not >> the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It >> makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track = of >> which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular >> issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. >>=20 >> Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not = a >> good reason, could it be changed? >=20 > When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) > initiates SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this = provider > except one will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) > initiates TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom > for details. That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an = unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? = (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 06:33:13 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511981065670 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E088FC12 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J6Wd1f0020FhH24A56ZCRq; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:33:12 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J6ZB1f0083LrwQ28U6ZBcJ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:33:12 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 816C79B418; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:33:11 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Message-ID: <20101013063311.GA51239@icarus.home.lan> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, pjd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:33:13 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 13.10.2010 um 06:56 schrieb Andrey V. Elsukov: > > > On 12.10.2010 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every UFS > >> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is not > >> the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > >> makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track of > >> which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > >> issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. > >> > >> Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not a > >> good reason, could it be changed? > > > > When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) > > initiates SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this provider > > except one will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) > > initiates TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom > > for details. > > That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. Pawel, you might be interested in this part of the thread specifically: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-October/059483.html -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 07:02:25 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD106106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4028FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de ([217.29.45.10]) by gate1.intern.punkt.de with ESMTP id o9D72OR2084409; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o9D72N5S083754; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o9D72Ne2083753; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:23 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de> To: Jeff Dowsley <jeff.dowsley@mac.com> Message-ID: <20101013070223.GA83680@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <168255A7-F378-45FB-904C-F094C4E0C000@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / full (107% !!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:02:25 -0000 Morning, On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 01:50:31PM +1100, Jeff Dowsley wrote: > Just did a csup and rebuilt world and kernel, as usual. > Rebooted to single user mode, and kicked off the installkernel. > This bombed with an "unable to write to device", and "device full". > On rebooting, df shows / at 107%. You might want to set INSTALL_NODEBUG= yes in /etc/make.conf HTH, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 07:46:54 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CD2106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C28FC16 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.123.145.58] (helo=sjakie.klop.ws) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org>) id 1P5w32-0006HV-Uw; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:46:53 +0200 Received: from 212-123-145-58.ip.telfort.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sjakie.klop.ws (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4117A8080; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:46:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org> Message-ID: <op.vkh7wbjt8527sy@212-123-145-58.ip.telfort.nl> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (FreeBSD) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:46:54 -0000 On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:50:28 +0200, Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> wrote: > Hi folks, > > For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible =20 > entries: > kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 > .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 > > How to get rid of it? Please help... > > Thanks, > Nickson Looks like 2 messages scrambled. I think multiple threads are =20 logging/writing at the same time. Although that might be a bug in itself = =20 it can explain what you see. Ronald. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:10:46 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D98F106564A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40828FC0C for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA04233; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:10:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P5wQ2-00027Z-UK; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:10:39 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB5697D.8080000@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:10:37 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:10:46 -0000 on 13/10/2010 09:29 Stefan Bethke said the following: > Am 13.10.2010 um 06:56 schrieb Andrey V. Elsukov: >> When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) initiates >> SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this provider except one >> will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) initiates >> TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom for details. > > That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an > unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mount > da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) da2p1 is a "real" underlying provider, "ufs/mylabel" is a "convenience" provider on _top_ of it. When you open a top-most provider it doesn't affect provides under it. If you open a provider down the chain, then the providers above it are spoiled. Does it make sense now? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:12:34 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5113C1065674 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805108FC18 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA04272; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P5wRk-00027p-Dl; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:24 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB569E8.7020301@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:12:24 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:12:34 -0000 on 12/10/2010 23:50 Marcin said the following: > Hi folks, > > For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: > kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 > .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 > > How to get rid of it? Please help... Add buffering to msgbuf-writing routines in kernel. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:18:00 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1700106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D338FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J8J01f0021GhbT85C8J0W8; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:18:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J8Hz1f0053LrwQ23T8J0Ff; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:18:00 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 902FF9B418; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:17:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> Message-ID: <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:18:00 -0000 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:28PM +0200, Marcin wrote: > Hi folks, > > For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: > kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 > .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 > > How to get rid of it? Please help... There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. I've been harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins to no end. There are solutions -- Linux solved it by implementing a lockless circular ring buffer[1] used by kmsg). The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your kernel: options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. This option became part of the GENERIC kernel configuration file at the following times: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC#rev1.529 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC#rev1.517 Depending on what release/tag you follow, you may or may not find the above commit/change in your GENERIC file. I can't be bothered to track down what time the CVS tagging was done, for multiple architectures, etc... [1]: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/trace/ring-buffer-design.txt -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:24:57 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9501065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE828FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA04523; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:24:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P5wdl-00028g-JQ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:24:49 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB56CD0.40602@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:24:48 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:24:57 -0000 on 13/10/2010 11:17 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your > kernel: > > options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. This option only affects printing to actual console (e.g. ttyv0). It changes nothing (zero, nada) for writing to msgbuf, and consequently for syslogd. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:31:37 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8527106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644B88FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J8W61f0010EZKEL5E8XdGR; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:31:37 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J8Xc1f0023LrwQ23M8XcEn; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:31:37 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFA0E9B418; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:31:34 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> Message-ID: <20101013083134.GA53208@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <4CB56CD0.40602@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB56CD0.40602@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:31:37 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:24:48AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 13/10/2010 11:17 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only > > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can > > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add > > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your > > kernel: > > > > options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. > > This option only affects printing to actual console (e.g. ttyv0). > It changes nothing (zero, nada) for writing to msgbuf, and consequently for syslogd. Ahhh, I see. Yes you're right, and I'm incorrect (as usual). I thought msgbuf and /dev/console were basically tied together (or maybe I'm thinking of /dev/klog?), but from reviewing dmesg(8) I can see that's obviously not the case (-a flag). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:46:56 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B6106566B for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (60.wheelsystems.com [83.12.187.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FED8FC24 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1721D45E8E; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:21:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (chello089073192049.chello.pl [89.73.192.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F57245C89; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:21:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:20:37 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Message-ID: <20101013082036.GK2197@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> <20101013063311.GA51239@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="S0GG+JvAI2G0KxBG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013063311.GA51239@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:46:56 -0000 --S0GG+JvAI2G0KxBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Am 13.10.2010 um 06:56 schrieb Andrey V. Elsukov: > >=20 > > > On 12.10.2010 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > >> For some reason the /dev/ufs/label entry that geom creates for every= UFS > > >> formatted partition is deleted when the device is mounted. This is n= ot > > >> the case for other file systems, though I have not tried them all. It > > >> makes the drive much harder to deal with when you have to keep track= of > > >> which physical drive contains the labeled media. It is a particular > > >> issue for hald and the tools which depend on it. > > >>=20 > > >> Is there a good reason for this odd behavior of UFS? If there is not= a > > >> good reason, could it be changed? > > >=20 > > > When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) > > > initiates SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this provid= er > > > except one will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) > > > initiates TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom > > > for details. > >=20 > > That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an u= nintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Moun= t da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) >=20 > Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL class created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there or change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send on first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end up with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label and mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheelsystems.com pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --S0GG+JvAI2G0KxBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAky1a9QACgkQForvXbEpPzR7qQCcDdk9+OYAQ2AR5c9jlo8RXAaP YOYAoMquUijjP59M6dxAklJ8e2aJ6/9K =je4C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --S0GG+JvAI2G0KxBG-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 08:55:04 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C78106566C for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bu7cher@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F0E8FC0A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (smtp1.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.101]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AC87114D0908; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:55:01 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1286960101; bh=K4YMyzudn1bC5o0U8Lc3/WKeIuv3CUu2/6Ihq1V/PcA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=C96aJIrXsLGxOzfooxcQARk3QcR9ypfmCgTKhno6d/CSd1SZxnRyXowjFSHCJ05O+ bHkel502uTtmXOiXR89Llu1Sc8kuLMGrm8EGDV0ET8z7UzIZjq0Bd33chURYFKBHkj U2KIC74vgQLv8ztpN5AHM/aFR0mcQmFVHhxoHohk= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ns.kirov.so-ups.ru [77.72.136.145]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 5BAEE290062; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:55:01 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4CB573E0.1030104@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:54:56 +0400 From: "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 (FreeBSD/20051231) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0F0E3C2540D8068FEB5F1F7D" X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1286960101 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp1.mail.yandex.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:55:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0F0E3C2540D8068FEB5F1F7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13.10.2010 10:29, Stefan Bethke wrote: >> When you are opening provider for writing (i.e. mount FS) GEOM(4) >> initiates SPOILING and all consumers that are attached to this provide= r >> except one will self-destroyed. When you are closing provider GEOM(4) >> initiates TASTING and consumers can return back. Look at man 4 geom >> for details. >=20 > That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an=20 > unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? > (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.)= This is by design. Any provider's entries in /dev are created by GEOM_DEV= class. GEOM_PART serves partition tables. GEOM_PART_GPT as part of GEOM_P= ART serves GPT. GEOM_PART creates new provider for each entry in GPT. For example: da2 has GPT. da2p1 - first entry in GPT. GEOM_PART creates da2p1 provider= and GEOM initiate tasting. GEOM_DEV creates new consumer for da2p1 and /dev/da2p1 entry in devfs. At the same time GEOM_LABEL checks this provid= er and if it found "labels" it creates new consumer and new provider with na= me ufs/mylabel via slicer interface. After creating new provider GEOM initia= te tasting again. And GEOM_DEV creates new consumer and /dev/ufs/mylabel ent= ry. So, now we have two providers through we can get access to one device. But ufs/mylabel's is on top of da2p1. When we do first open one of them f= or writing GEOM initiate spoiling for protecting from stale metadata. When w= e do open da2p1 then GEOM_LABEL receives spoil event and destroys own provi= der. If I'm wrong Pawel can correct me. --=20 WBR, Andrey V. 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Please help... > > Add buffering to msgbuf-writing routines in kernel. > > -- > Andriy Gapon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Andiry, How can i do that? Please give me an advice... :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:03:37 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDC4106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boski.cezar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6291A8FC14 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so7530183iwn.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JdolhuxVnK7FWKuOsaIqLnwZzVRW3dmr/esDLJDaO5I=; b=KlCrra9TidIo4BqGDWStms73+bL6zL0954ty68mKzlKLlCDLyJrGWuvL/Iy6FYhpDn Orol4IU7o1O7JRdxMJb1qfqTnkW3gKIvUkspK7H+Zo9lSXQq3q1UoKN1lBfOEBlycukZ AWkSq7/G0fox3o5tmCDdLx9vkgJPZW+WQUWbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Pvdnun1qPE3YjZvOiwwVsfNes/Xa8E7i24DNVtYdQUBze2dp+DZPPGlkj2dtlDpChQ y5cuqokCSJAQkPFnKAf0XzkpzsLr6SFCE96jg/dJXiUdXfEk/0L6s18LT3GPkJDCqwFw +1ftRb8KbbB8OkuVPSp+b+WJSZqSa5vGAfTjs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.60.4 with SMTP id n4mr6834054ibh.18.1286960616722; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: boski.cezar@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.205.197 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:03:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IXPbhJ_5ypIO3j9UQKq4Fmu17Ww Message-ID: <AANLkTikngP9Gdx_5-r2eVU8va-UExFmL8mG42nTWP4jG@mail.gmail.com> From: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:37 -0000 2010/10/13 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:28PM +0200, Marcin wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entrie= s: >> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 >> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 >> >> How to get rid of it? Please help... > > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. =A0I've been > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins > to no end. =A0There are solutions -- Linux solved it by implementing a > lockless circular ring buffer[1] used by kmsg). > > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your > kernel: > > options =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128 =A0 =A0# Prevent printf ou= tput being interspersed. > > This option became part of the GENERIC kernel configuration file at the > following times: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC#rev1.529 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC#rev1.517 > > Depending on what release/tag you follow, you may or may not find the > above commit/change in your GENERIC file. =A0I can't be bothered to track > down what time the CVS tagging was done, for multiple architectures, > etc... > > [1]: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/trace/ring-buffer-desig= n.txt > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 jdc@parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://= www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mountain = View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PGP:= 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Jeremy, I have compiled kernel with this option and unfortunately problem still exi= st... Do you have another idea how can i improve my log file? :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:06:57 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8141065703 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75F8FC18 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id MAA05862; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:06:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P5xIR-0002CU-SC; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:06:51 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB576AA.7080502@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:06:50 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <4CB569E8.7020301@icyb.net.ua> <AANLkTi=5wTv4keSgfBtHEiByD+U3vv2seGbJKsGdUR0V@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=5wTv4keSgfBtHEiByD+U3vv2seGbJKsGdUR0V@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:06:57 -0000 on 13/10/2010 12:01 Marcin said the following: > 2010/10/13 Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>: >> on 12/10/2010 23:50 Marcin said the following: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: >>> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 >>> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 >>> >>> How to get rid of it? Please help... >> >> Add buffering to msgbuf-writing routines in kernel. >> >> -- >> Andriy Gapon >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Hi Andiry, > How can i do that? Please give me an advice... :) http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/kern/subr_prf.c?view=markup http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/kern/subr_msgbuf.c?view=markup Use the source, Luke :) -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:23:48 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5201E106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A828FC1C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J9Nu1f0030vyq2s5B9Pohs; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:23:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J9Pm1f0043LrwQ23R9Pnyr; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:23:48 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AAF489B418; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:23:45 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> Message-ID: <20101013092345.GA54174@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <AANLkTikngP9Gdx_5-r2eVU8va-UExFmL8mG42nTWP4jG@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikngP9Gdx_5-r2eVU8va-UExFmL8mG42nTWP4jG@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:23:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:03:36AM +0200, Marcin wrote: > 2010/10/13 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>: > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:28PM +0200, Marcin wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: > >> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 > >> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 > >> > >> How to get rid of it? Please help... > > > > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem.  I've been > > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this > > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins > > to no end.  There are solutions -- Linux solved it by implementing a > > lockless circular ring buffer[1] used by kmsg). > > > > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only > > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can > > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add > > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your > > kernel: > > > > options         PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128    # Prevent printf output being interspersed. > > > > This option became part of the GENERIC kernel configuration file at the > > following times: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC#rev1.529 > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC#rev1.517 > > > > Depending on what release/tag you follow, you may or may not find the > > above commit/change in your GENERIC file.  I can't be bothered to track > > down what time the CVS tagging was done, for multiple architectures, > > etc... > > > > [1]: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/trace/ring-buffer-design.txt > > Hi Jeremy, > I have compiled kernel with this option and unfortunately problem still exist... > Do you have another idea how can i improve my log file? :) I was incorrect in my understanding/prognosis, so as Andriy pointed out, the option won't solve your problem. It sounds like the only way to solve this issue is to improve/fix the msgbuf code. Alternatively, you could consider moving from ipfw to pf(4) and use pflog(4) / pflogd(8). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:28:13 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B20106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boski.cezar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90148FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so7559326iwn.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MFjIXmHw0820jyw7E8E25LsdIRN3Yyj32TlLuo6j8dk=; b=B7Ef9j3R/pnU29TBXY1hFxJFcTmD+R7CggbBBRA1p9CQa3dBStHHIjuF2rXxX53Qlk OhLBT+6tfAs4prhj2plVt1iHbaOow/MMtgInY3UsidXS8r48hTjsKRNemcH4bu+ApGnU bGDAdc7FXMKOCXOSR7GhSnqx01DSfPaqPPjEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=v3VzQs8/ZfICRRhliGB53rnebCL3kiPv/0XYGTm7/6K0JSSA0OxgKxfEA/NInVSrmT b1dSwQ13zNX60AUW37YIhefbY6c3mm8fvN3RxQ5wo4TgobvSZSu7JNkcj1XgHYlyEK3X NZZuU6nNDMNske1XdMTuTavlqqT6h2Mh8r19E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.22.69 with SMTP id n5mr3227787icb.477.1286962091500; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: boski.cezar@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.205.197 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB576AA.7080502@icyb.net.ua> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <4CB569E8.7020301@icyb.net.ua> <AANLkTi=5wTv4keSgfBtHEiByD+U3vv2seGbJKsGdUR0V@mail.gmail.com> <4CB576AA.7080502@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:28:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3ub4OP6wGgPqM-kk_B0bv5NSXNU Message-ID: <AANLkTi=6=BvSgXtZ9yWzG-jNfyTLBX1N8KVE4_bFDj9Q@mail.gmail.com> From: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl> To: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:28:13 -0000 2010/10/13 Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>: > on 13/10/2010 12:01 Marcin said the following: >> 2010/10/13 Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>: >>> on 12/10/2010 23:50 Marcin said the following: >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: >>>> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 >>>> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 >>>> >>>> How to get rid of it? Please help... >>> >>> Add buffering to msgbuf-writing routines in kernel. >>> >>> -- >>> Andriy Gapon >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> Hi Andiry, >> How can i do that? Please give me an advice... :) > > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/kern/subr_prf.c?view=markup > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/sys/kern/subr_msgbuf.c?view=markup > > Use the source, Luke :) > > -- > Andriy Gapon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, Thanks for advice, I don't have enought power (C programmers knowledge) to use the sources... Maybe there is more simply solution... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 09:47:44 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B280106564A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from gilb.zs64.net (gilb.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1ea]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCF08FC13; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gilb.zs64.net (Postfix, from stb@lassitu.de) id C141E3767; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013082036.GK2197@garage.freebsd.pl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:47:41 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <BE3B2824-F4D0-4B06-9323-51DF1438C632@lassitu.de> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> <20101013063311.GA51239@icarus.home.lan> <20101013082036.GK2197@garage.freebsd.pl> To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:47:44 -0000 Am 13.10.2010 um 10:20 schrieb Pawel Jakub Dawidek: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: >>> That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just = an unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? = (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) >>=20 >> Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. >=20 > The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 > makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. >=20 > The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was > created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider > contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL = class > created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the > LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change > metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there = or > change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to > zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once > again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. >=20 > The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send = on > first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering > metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it > doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. >=20 > If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end = up > with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label = and > mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. Thanks a lot (and also to Andrey), that really makes it clear to me! I just wish there was an easy way to keep the labels around even while = someone has the provider open for writing, but I now understand that = this requires some significant changes. Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 10:25:58 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D0B106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rizzo.unipi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0705B8FC18 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so573417qyk.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:25:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JJKmnP4sA9ThglkdtBMmETzeOyiO+iWE2abUMMmwFUc=; b=h9VyvpNMFvhqb5ZgBO7U37qX394/RBpaTyiQkPwD5SRnlOHVERD+9P4RBSV9iULCmp qtBvWT7ITDmtn+ZQ+jzWeDtZ0MTHeBmGmf4M7euD6Iachm3woCvoucxresiXMEbz+dd6 qsyoLjg+PDwPsYwXgB2DKpl2EjYJFt3KLzYbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=djqvqfAOnbLjFEjJ/YY95aqNRGqz9SDCfDgxqaEeDZ5Y9qZ/FWwuEgjaQ/vgtXGmtC eFvGwojCbiGjTlsnCyCdH/mcxu1NJEF4YtMRmmetA8sXevIthbd60ljLyTwEgM4sBitH bNSRGrDcsYeWIGjDZpzJ8GSDGd7x2P1BEnISU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.28.140 with SMTP id m12mr7359361qcc.93.1286963719423; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rizzo.unipi@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.88.148 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:55:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101013092345.GA54174@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <AANLkTikngP9Gdx_5-r2eVU8va-UExFmL8mG42nTWP4jG@mail.gmail.com> <20101013092345.GA54174@icarus.home.lan> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:55:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: W7KwgkZ0yfLspvN5xX-s_CI6tSE Message-ID: <AANLkTin9MZpQniOogFhQFUKGRtgyk9xv7afrfWrDu_Me@mail.gmail.com> From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:25:58 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:03:36AM +0200, Marcin wrote: >> 2010/10/13 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>: >> > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:28PM +0200, Marcin wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible ent= ries: >> >> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 >> >> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re= 0 >> >> >> >> How to get rid of it? Please help... >> > >> > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. =A0I've be= en >> > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this >> > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins >> > to no end. =A0There are solutions -- Linux solved it by implementing a >> > lockless circular ring buffer[1] used by kmsg). >> > >> > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only >> > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can >> > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add >> > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your >> > kernel: >> > >> > options =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128 =A0 =A0# Prevent printf= output being interspersed. >> > >> > This option became part of the GENERIC kernel configuration file at th= e >> > following times: >> > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC#rev1.= 529 >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC#rev1.5= 17 >> > >> > Depending on what release/tag you follow, you may or may not find the >> > above commit/change in your GENERIC file. =A0I can't be bothered to tr= ack >> > down what time the CVS tagging was done, for multiple architectures, >> > etc... >> > >> > [1]: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/trace/ring-buffer-de= sign.txt >> >> Hi Jeremy, >> I have compiled kernel with this option and unfortunately problem still = exist... >> Do you have another idea how can i improve my log file? :) > > I was incorrect in my understanding/prognosis, so as Andriy pointed out, > the option won't solve your problem. > > It sounds like the only way to solve this issue is to improve/fix the > msgbuf code. =A0Alternatively, you could consider moving from ipfw to > pf(4) and use pflog(4) / pflogd(8). or you can use the log option of ipfw and run tcpdump on the "ipfw0" pseudo interface which will give you all the traffic that matches a 'log' rule (there is a sysctl variable that controls whether log goes to syslog or to the ipfw pseudo interface) cheers luigi > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 jdc@parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://= www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mountain = View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PGP:= 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 11:27:05 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B60106566C for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (60.wheelsystems.com [83.12.187.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA01B8FC18 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 27D2345C99; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:27:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (pdawidek.whl [10.0.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61F145EE5; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:26:30 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> To: Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Message-ID: <20101013112630.GA1727@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <4CB53BF7.1020408@yandex.ru> <B6AAC89E-5651-4B4B-B770-11443A7BCC22@lassitu.de> <20101013063311.GA51239@icarus.home.lan> <20101013082036.GK2197@garage.freebsd.pl> <BE3B2824-F4D0-4B06-9323-51DF1438C632@lassitu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <BE3B2824-F4D0-4B06-9323-51DF1438C632@lassitu.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:27:05 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 13.10.2010 um 10:20 schrieb Pawel Jakub Dawidek: >=20 > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > >>> That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an= unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mo= unt da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) > >>=20 > >> Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. > >=20 > > The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 > > makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. > >=20 > > The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was > > created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider > > contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL class > > created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the > > LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change > > metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there or > > change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to > > zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once > > again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. > >=20 > > The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send on > > first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering > > metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it > > doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. > >=20 > > If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end up > > with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label and > > mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. >=20 > Thanks a lot (and also to Andrey), that really makes it clear to me! >=20 > I just wish there was an easy way to keep the labels around even while so= meone has the provider open for writing, but I now understand that this req= uires some significant changes. The changes aren't significant. We could eventually ignore spoil event and keep labels around even when underlying provider is opened for writing risking the label is stale. We could then only update or remove the label on retaste event (when underlying provider's open write count goes down to zero). Currently when we do, eg. # dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/da2p1 bs=3D1m This is happening: # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 # LABEL class destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel provider # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes # LABEL class finds no metadata and ignores da2p1 With the new world order this would look like this: # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 # LABEL class ignores spoil event # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes # LABEL class finds no metadata on da2p1 and destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheelsystems.com pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAky1l2YACgkQForvXbEpPzRgngCg6EgutPHkg7i3WYUe+6IpUf3V kF8AoMriVzdeaTp1Llm6AmpXxPHiewy5 =qD8P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:14:49 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9479B1065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spawk@acm.poly.edu) Received: from acm.poly.edu (acm.poly.edu [128.238.9.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1C48FC1C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23979 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2010 12:48:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.124?) (spawk@128.238.64.31) by acm.poly.edu with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Oct 2010 12:48:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4CB5AA88.1050505@acm.poly.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:48:08 -0400 From: Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100923 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> References: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> <4FFC682B-4261-4CD8-A533-36559605BE11@lassitu.de> <20101012234816.GE4957@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20101012234816.GE4957@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010800050201050509050703" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Subject: Re: need help with BElkin KVM and USB mouse problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010800050201050509050703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a USB KVM whose mouse and keyboard work both on the console and in X. My xorg.conf is attached. I am running moused. I am *not* running hald. -Boris On 10/12/10 19:48, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:09:43PM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: >> Am 12.10.2010 um 20:17 schrieb Gary Kline: >> >>> The USB keyboard works fine everywhere. But my USB mouse fails on >>> the FreeBSD platforms when I try to run X11. I *have* managed to get >>> the mouse working without X [i.e., in console mode]; and yes, the >>> cursor and the buttons work fine. But once I launch X--even simple >>> apps like twm or ctwm, the mouse pointer is dead. >> It doesn't sound like this issue is connected to your using a KVM at all, but rather your X configuration. If you have a second USB mouse, try plugging that in in addition to the KVM and see if there's any difference; I'm guessing not. >> >> Check you X config, and make sure dbus and hald are enabled in rc.conf and started. >> > > A friend on -questions suggested that hal might be interfering. > I axed it from /etc/rc.conf. > > Given that both mouse+keyboard are USB, what port should I be > using... ? I have tried editing my xorg.conf file. Zip so far. > > I'll have my wife switch from my "Logitech" to an el-cheapo M$ > USB mouse. See if anything happens... > > thanks, > > gary > > >> Stefan >> >> -- >> Stefan Bethke<stb@lassitu.de> Fon +49 151 14070811 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------010800050201050509050703 Content-Type: text/plain; name="xorg.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xorg.conf" Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dri2" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False", ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>] #Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>] #Option "BusType" # [<str>] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [<bool>] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # <i> #Option "AGPMode" # <i> #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [<bool>] #Option "AGPSize" # <i> #Option "GARTSize" # <i> #Option "RingSize" # <i> #Option "BufferSize" # <i> #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [<bool>] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [<bool>] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [<bool>] #Option "DMAForXv" # [<bool>] #Option "FBTexPercent" # <i> #Option "DepthBits" # <i> #Option "PCIAPERSize" # <i> #Option "AccelDFS" # [<bool>] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [<str>] #Option "PanelSize" # [<str>] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # <freq> #Option "ColorTiling" # [<bool>] #Option "VideoKey" # <i> #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # <i> #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # <i> #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # <i> #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # <i> #Option "TunerType" # <i> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # <str> #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # <str> #Option "ScalerWidth" # <i> #Option "RenderAccel" # [<bool>] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [<str>] #Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [<bool>] #Option "VGAAccess" # [<bool>] #Option "ReverseDDC" # [<bool>] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [<bool>] #Option "AccelMethod" # <str> #Option "DRI" # [<bool>] #Option "ConnectorTable" # <str> #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [<bool>] #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [<bool>] #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [<bool>] #Option "ForceTVOut" # [<bool>] #Option "TVStandard" # <str> #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [<bool>] #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [<bool>] #Option "Int10" # [<bool>] #Option "EXAVSync" # [<bool>] #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [<bool>] #Option "R4xxATOM" # [<bool>] Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "M24GL [Mobility FireGL V3200]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --------------010800050201050509050703-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:31:25 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E4610657F3; 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charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010130929.18350.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:31:25 -0000 On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:26:30 am Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Am 13.10.2010 um 10:20 schrieb Pawel Jakub Dawidek: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > >>> That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) > > >> > > >> Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 > > > makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was > > > created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider > > > contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL class > > > created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the > > > LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change > > > metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there or > > > change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to > > > zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once > > > again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. > > > > > > The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send on > > > first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering > > > metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it > > > doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. > > > > > > If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end up > > > with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label and > > > mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. > > > > Thanks a lot (and also to Andrey), that really makes it clear to me! > > > > I just wish there was an easy way to keep the labels around even while someone has the provider open for writing, but I now understand that this requires some significant changes. > > The changes aren't significant. We could eventually ignore spoil event > and keep labels around even when underlying provider is opened for > writing risking the label is stale. We could then only update or remove > the label on retaste event (when underlying provider's open write count > goes down to zero). We really should fix this. The current behavior is highly non-intuitive and confusing. For example, if you label a filesystem because you want to switch over to labels, you can't verify that the labels exist in /dev/ufs when you go to edit your fstab (if the filesystems are mounted via existing non-label mounts). > Currently when we do, eg. > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da2p1 bs=1m > > This is happening: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel provider > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata and ignores da2p1 > > With the new world order this would look like this: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class ignores spoil event > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata on da2p1 and destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel What happens if you change the label of a filesystem? I suppose in the UFS case we don't let you use tunefs to change the label of a mounted filesystem? Do we have any filesystems where that is the case? If not, I think this approach sounds fine. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 13:31:25 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E4610657F3; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CE18FC08; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F5F546BA7; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD9548A027; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:29:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100819; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20101012185100.5AA661CC3E@ptavv.es.net> <BE3B2824-F4D0-4B06-9323-51DF1438C632@lassitu.de> <20101013112630.GA1727@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20101013112630.GA1727@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010130929.18350.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:31:25 -0000 On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:26:30 am Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Am 13.10.2010 um 10:20 schrieb Pawel Jakub Dawidek: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > >>> That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) > > >> > > >> Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 > > > makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was > > > created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider > > > contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL class > > > created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the > > > LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change > > > metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there or > > > change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to > > > zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once > > > again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. > > > > > > The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send on > > > first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering > > > metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it > > > doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. > > > > > > If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end up > > > with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label and > > > mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. > > > > Thanks a lot (and also to Andrey), that really makes it clear to me! > > > > I just wish there was an easy way to keep the labels around even while someone has the provider open for writing, but I now understand that this requires some significant changes. > > The changes aren't significant. We could eventually ignore spoil event > and keep labels around even when underlying provider is opened for > writing risking the label is stale. We could then only update or remove > the label on retaste event (when underlying provider's open write count > goes down to zero). We really should fix this. The current behavior is highly non-intuitive and confusing. For example, if you label a filesystem because you want to switch over to labels, you can't verify that the labels exist in /dev/ufs when you go to edit your fstab (if the filesystems are mounted via existing non-label mounts). > Currently when we do, eg. > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da2p1 bs=1m > > This is happening: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel provider > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata and ignores da2p1 > > With the new world order this would look like this: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class ignores spoil event > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata on da2p1 and destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel What happens if you change the label of a filesystem? I suppose in the UFS case we don't let you use tunefs to change the label of a mounted filesystem? Do we have any filesystems where that is the case? If not, I think this approach sounds fine. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 15:03:26 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABF4106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258958FC0A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9DF3MZw013781; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9DF3LZ5013778; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>, Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:03:26 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: > Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* > HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not > present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. > > How it is to be done is described here: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple problems. First is installing X on a server. Second is a KVM switch, many of which are problematic. Next is that the KVM converts USB to PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Finally, a "jumpy mouse" problem with moused on console screams that it's the KVM, not moused or USB or xorg config. My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. If it's really required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server for those times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. > If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > will call moused with the correct settings automatically. USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. If you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable moused. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 17:29:29 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E3106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A1D8FC0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 79793E81C0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Message-ID: <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:29:29 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:03:21AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Polytropon wrote: > > >Correct. If you disable HAL, and your X is configured to run *WITH* > >HAL, it won't run anymore. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and if not > >present, create it) to make X work *WITHOUT* HAL. > > > >How it is to be done is described here: > > > >http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple > problems. First is installing X on a server. Second is a KVM > switch, many of which are problematic. Next is that the KVM > converts USB to PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Finally, a > "jumpy mouse" problem with moused on console screams that it's the > KVM, not moused or USB or xorg config. Interesting that the mouse jumpiness has disappeared. I can switch to <-> computers by KVM and no problem. I'm about to add: Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" to my xorg.conf Done. I just noticed that in rc.conf is: # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 moused_port="/dev/ums0" moused_type="auto" moused_enable="NO" and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . > > My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. If it's > really required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server > for those times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. > > >If you use a USB mouse, set moused_enable="NO", as the USB subsystem > >will call moused with the correct settings automatically. > > USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. > If you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable > moused. I vastly prefer X11 because it allows xterms and more. X is necessary on my server because of my UPS as well as because it will be my new printserver. okay, time for the big reboot... . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:35:40 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0055A1065823; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1A88FC15; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9DKZd0l028833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:35:39 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 240861CC3E; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:35:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:26:30 +0200." <20101013112630.GA1727@garage.freebsd.pl> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:35:39 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20101013203539.240861CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Label question...why does ufs label vanish on mount? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:35:40 -0000 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:26:30 +0200 > From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > Am 13.10.2010 um 10:20 schrieb Pawel Jakub Dawidek: > > > > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:33:11PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:29:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > >>> That explains the mechanism, but not the rationale. Or is it just an unintended consequence? And how is da2p1 different from ufs/mylabel? (Mount da2p1 and ufs/mylabel is removed, but not the other way around.) > > >> > > >> Pulling in pjd@ who can probably shed some light on this. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider is based on da2p1, that's why opening da2p1 > > > makes ufs/mylabel to be removed and not the other way around. > > > > > > The ufs/mylabel provider was created, because when da2p1 provider was > > > created and LABEL class tasted it, it discovered that this provider > > > contains UFS file system with 'mylabel' volume label, so the LABEL class > > > created ufs/mylabel provider. Now when you open da2p1 for writing, the > > > LABEL class destroys ufs/mylabel, because you may decide to change > > > metadata on da2p1, for example you may choose to destroy UFS in there or > > > change the volume label. When write open count on da2p1 goes down to > > > zero, the LABEL class will be given da2p1 provider for tasting once > > > again, so it can rediscover (possibly modified) volume label. > > > > > > The class may choose to ignore the spoil event from GEOM (it is send on > > > first open for write), but if it isn't based on autodiscovering > > > metadata. For example the NOP class ignores this event, because it > > > doesn't care about metadata of provider it is based on. > > > > > > If we choose to ignore the spoil event in the LABEL class we will end up > > > with stale info, eg. open da2p1 for writing, change its volume label and > > > mount it and you will still have old label in /dev/ufs/. > > > > Thanks a lot (and also to Andrey), that really makes it clear to me! > > > > I just wish there was an easy way to keep the labels around even while someone has the provider open for writing, but I now understand that this requires some significant changes. > > The changes aren't significant. We could eventually ignore spoil event > and keep labels around even when underlying provider is opened for > writing risking the label is stale. We could then only update or remove > the label on retaste event (when underlying provider's open write count > goes down to zero). > > Currently when we do, eg. > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da2p1 bs=1m > > This is happening: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel provider > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata and ignores da2p1 > > With the new world order this would look like this: > > # dd(1) opens da2p1 for writing > # GEOM sends spoil event to all consumers of da2p1 > # LABEL class ignores spoil event > # dd(1) finishes and closes da2p1 > # GEOM sends taste event to all GEOM classes > # LABEL class finds no metadata on da2p1 and destroys /dev/ufs/mylabel Thanks! Thi explains most of what I see, but there is one thing that is not explained. That is the devd showing a CREATE for the partition (e.g. da0s2d) every time the partition is either mounted or umounted, regardless of whether it is mounted by device or label. There is never a DESTROY event. this is both counter-intuitive, but hard to program around. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:43:26 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21631106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0188FC08 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9DKhO4q001616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:43:24 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 43E941CC3E; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:55:19 +0200." <AANLkTin9MZpQniOogFhQFUKGRtgyk9xv7afrfWrDu_Me@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:43:24 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20101013204324.43E941CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:43:26 -0000 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:55:19 +0200 > From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it> > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jeremy Chadwick > <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:03:36AM +0200, Marcin wrote: > >> 2010/10/13 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>: > >> > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:50:28PM +0200, Marcin wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, > >> >> > >> >> For some time in the file / var / log / security appear illegible entries: > >> >> kernel: ipfw: 200 Deny UDiPp f1w9:2 .168.10.5:5230503 D22e4n.y0 > >> >> .U0D.P25 1:15923.5136 o8.u10t. 5va5 3r5e03 224.0.0.251:5353 in via re0 > >> >> > >> >> How to get rid of it? Please help... > >> > > >> > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem.  I've been > >> > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this > >> > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins > >> > to no end.  There are solutions -- Linux solved it by implementing a > >> > lockless circular ring buffer[1] used by kmsg). > >> > > >> > The """workaround""" -- which again, does not solve the problem, only > >> > decreases the regularity of it happening (and when it does happen, can > >> > sometimes decrease how much interspersed output there is) -- is to add > >> > the following line to your kernel config and rebuild/reinstall your > >> > kernel: > >> > > >> > options         PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128    # Prevent printf output being interspersed. > >> > > >> > This option became part of the GENERIC kernel configuration file at the > >> > following times: > >> > > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC#rev1.529 > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC#rev1.517 > >> > > >> > Depending on what release/tag you follow, you may or may not find the > >> > above commit/change in your GENERIC file.  I can't be bothered to track > >> > down what time the CVS tagging was done, for multiple architectures, > >> > etc... > >> > > >> > [1]: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/trace/ring-buffer-design.txt > >> > >> Hi Jeremy, > >> I have compiled kernel with this option and unfortunately problem still exist... > >> Do you have another idea how can i improve my log file? :) > > > > I was incorrect in my understanding/prognosis, so as Andriy pointed out, > > the option won't solve your problem. > > > > It sounds like the only way to solve this issue is to improve/fix the > > msgbuf code.  Alternatively, you could consider moving from ipfw to > > pf(4) and use pflog(4) / pflogd(8). > > or you can use the log option of ipfw and run tcpdump on the "ipfw0" > pseudo interface > which will give you all the traffic that matches a 'log' rule (there > is a sysctl variable that > controls whether log goes to syslog or to the ipfw pseudo interface) Is the any real documentation on the ipfw0 device and how to use it? I can see it as being very handy. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 20:44:49 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D761065672; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECF8FC1C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08821EEE2; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9DKikVG001518; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:44:46 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Message-Id: <20101013224446.382b5293.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>, Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:44:49 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:03:21 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote: > I've followed only parts of this thread, and there are multiple > problems. First is installing X on a server. And first + one half is running X as root. :-) As it is only for testing, no big deal, but I did want to just mention it. > Second is a KVM switch, > many of which are problematic. That's true. The key problem is the switching from / to a particular machine, and how it handles this process. On the early models where wires were switched "purely electrically", this caused the system to lose a device. Some more modern KVM switches seem to provide a "dummy" signal so the device isn't lost (as in the view of the system), but I doubt this is a standard method. > Next is that the KVM converts USB to > PS/2, which... well, maybe it's fine. Erm, no. As far as I understood now, the KVM switch is USB only, or to be more precise: At least the mouse is USB - no PS/2 handling in between. > Finally, a "jumpy mouse" problem > with moused on console screams that it's the KVM, not moused or USB or > xorg config. I'm not 100% sure about that. Your article located at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html states: Other times, particularly if hald is running, typed characters don't show up on the screen until the mouse is moved, and mouse movement itself is jerky and doesn't react smoothly. I thought about something like that. > My suggestion would be to *not* install X on a server. And this would eliminate the problem, as the keyboard (the main input method for console-driven dialog) seems to work as inteded through the KVM switch. > If it's really > required, use an actual keyboard and monitor on that server for those > times when ssh -X/-Y aren't enough, and avoid the KVM. Often the best solution, at least im ny experience. I have used KVM switches in the past, but found them often problematic (as shown in this thread), so my first choice is networked access, and if neccessary, "hardware access". In some cases, a serial line with a terminal (or an old laptop resembling a terminal, using DOS and the KERMIT terminal emulator) is fully sufficient, and VERY well supported by FreeBSD. > USB mice cause moused to be run anyway, but there are differences. If > you want switching between X and console to be fast, enable moused. And this is possible in combination with devd that "remote-contols" moused for USB mice? And does moused handle "disappearing" and "reappearing" devices properly? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:11:24 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A78A106564A; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A9D8FC1B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-73-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.73.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E071E225; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o9DLBME3001585; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:11:22 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Message-Id: <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> References: <20101011032642.GA3354@thought.org> <20101011164152.GA4652@thought.org> <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:11:24 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > I just noticed that in rc.conf is: > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 > moused_port="/dev/ums0" > moused_type="auto" > moused_enable="NO" > > and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . Explaination: USB mice are handled by devd. So if the system detects the presence of a ums device, devd "remote-controls" moused to activate this mouse. # The entry below starts moused when a mouse is plugged in. Moused # stops automatically (actually it bombs :) when the device disappears. attach 100 { device-name "ums[0-9]+"; action "/etc/rc.d/moused start $device-name"; }; This is from /etc/devd.conf. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:25:13 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4341065673 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130B08FC1F for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 53B76E81C0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:25:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu> Message-ID: <20101013212514.GA19644@thought.org> References: <20101012181748.GA4173@thought.org> <4FFC682B-4261-4CD8-A533-36559605BE11@lassitu.de> <20101012234816.GE4957@thought.org> <4CB5AA88.1050505@acm.poly.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB5AA88.1050505@acm.poly.edu> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de> Subject: Re: need help with BElkin KVM and USB mouse problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:25:13 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:48:08AM -0400, Boris Kochergin wrote: > I have a USB KVM whose mouse and keyboard work both on the console > and in X. My xorg.conf is attached. I am running moused. I am *not* > running hald. > > -Boris > Appreciate your xorg posting, thanks.. What did the trick was to turn off half in /etc/rc.conf and add the following to the Server Layout block: Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" I just checked: the mouse daemon is not running; the pointer works in both console and X modes. Why? no clue. The help was from Warren Block's site. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html cheers, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 21:37:42 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7E2106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luigi@onelab2.iet.unipi.it) Received: from onelab2.iet.unipi.it (onelab2.iet.unipi.it [131.114.59.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131768FC1D for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by onelab2.iet.unipi.it (Postfix, from userid 275) id 29930730A4; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:49:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:49:51 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it> To: Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Message-ID: <20101013214951.GA17025@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> References: <AANLkTin9MZpQniOogFhQFUKGRtgyk9xv7afrfWrDu_Me@mail.gmail.com> <20101013204324.43E941CC3E@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20101013204324.43E941CC3E@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Marcin <nickson@interia.pl>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:37:42 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 01:43:24PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: ... > > > It sounds like the only way to solve this issue is to improve/fix the > > > msgbuf code.  Alternatively, you could consider moving from ipfw to > > > pf(4) and use pflog(4) / pflogd(8). > > > > or you can use the log option of ipfw and run tcpdump on the "ipfw0" > > pseudo interface > > which will give you all the traffic that matches a 'log' rule (there > > is a sysctl variable that > > controls whether log goes to syslog or to the ipfw pseudo interface) > > Is the any real documentation on the ipfw0 device and how to use it? I > can see it as being very handy. documentation ? what's that :) thanks for the reminder, just committed some text to ipfw.8 in HEAD to document the feature. cheers luigi > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 13 23:09:15 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A3106566B; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B6C8FC18; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9CD0CE81C0C; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:09:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20101013230916.GA20439@thought.org> References: <20101011193153.758efde5.freebsd@edvax.de> <4CB411AF.5050109@qeng-ho.org> <20101012221020.1a8dcd90.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101012233002.GA4957@thought.org> <20101013014326.6630e3b5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101013032018.GA3163@thought.org> <20101013055906.bdc5f644.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010130854280.12928@wonkity.com> <20101013172931.GA18897@thought.org> <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101013231122.3b32695b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mouse problems.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:09:15 -0000 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:29:31 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > > I just noticed that in rc.conf is: > > > > > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Oct 13 08:03:06 2010 > > moused_port="/dev/ums0" > > moused_type="auto" > > moused_enable="NO" > > > > and yet the console mouse is present. Strange... . > > Explaination: USB mice are handled by devd. So if the system > detects the presence of a ums device, devd "remote-controls" > moused to activate this mouse. > > # The entry below starts moused when a mouse is plugged in. Moused > # stops automatically (actually it bombs :) when the device disappears. > attach 100 { > device-name "ums[0-9]+"; > action "/etc/rc.d/moused start $device-name"; > }; > > This is from /etc/devd.conf. > > Thanks for the pointer. It got me curious about what parsed this file and I'm scanning devd.cc. ... > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.90a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 03:39:54 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EEF1065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918E78FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.60]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (DSTO/DSTO) with ESMTP id o9E3JTQ2029362 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:49:29 +0930 (CST) Received: from ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.4.0) with ESMTP id <T98b76f8c2883b9443c1b3c@ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au> for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:56:09 +1030 Received: from stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.49]) by ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:56:09 +1030 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.61]) by stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:26:08 +0800 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9E3Q8d2041432 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:26:08 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9E3Q8iK041431 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:26:08 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:26:08 +0800 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" <alex.wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Organisation: Defence Science Technology Organisation X-Message-Flag: "Please Restore Line Breaks If Necessary" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2010 03:26:08.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AFE9680:01CB6B4F] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1285-6.500.1024-17702.004 X-TM-AS-Result: No--14.921000-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:39:54 -0000 Hi all, I have come across a bug that triggers a kernel panic on 8.1-STABLE(r213395) through the use of /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-sshfs. Typically i do an sshfs mount as such: #sshfs username@hostname:/home/username local_mountpoint/ This mounts the remote filesystem fine. However, when i edit and save a file in say vi on the remote sshfs i get the following panic everytime: FreeBSD/amd64 (hostname.com) (ttyu0) login: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read instruction, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80e9d1d9d0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80e9d1db50 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1749 (vim) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 2 Uptime: 17m11s Physical memory: 8096 MB Dumping 1591 MB: It then seems to hang and not actually do a dump and i need to physically reset the box. If there is anything i can do to further assist in debugging please let me know. -Alex IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:42:22 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180AB106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s@swa.org.ru) Received: from mx.a-r-b.ru (mx.a-r-b.ru [90.156.229.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C8D8FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.16.2] (helo=home.swa.org.ru) by mx.a-r-b.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <s@swa.org.ru>) id 1P6IwK-000LDd-Qa; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:13:29 +0400 Message-ID: <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:13:27 +0600 From: Sergey Nikolenko <s@swa.org.ru> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Thunderbird/3.1.4 ThunderBrowse/3.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wilkinson, Alex" <alex.wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:42:22 -0000 On 14.10.2010 09:26, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > I have come across a bug that triggers a kernel panic on 8.1-STABLE(r213395) through the > use of /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-sshfs. Typically i do an sshfs mount as such: > > #sshfs username@hostname:/home/username local_mountpoint/ > > This mounts the remote filesystem fine. However, when i edit and save a file in > say vi on the remote sshfs i get the following panic everytime: Try this out http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149674 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 08:51:15 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C79106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C088FC08 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.60]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (DSTO/DSTO) with ESMTP id o9E8iV14011483 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:14:32 +0930 (CST) Received: from ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.4.0) with ESMTP id <T98b899215f83b9443c1b3c@ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:21:12 +1030 Received: from stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.49]) by ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:21:12 +1030 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.61]) by stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:11 +0800 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9E8pBcr042751; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:11 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9E8pAfj042750; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:10 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:51:10 +0800 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" <alex.wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101014085110.GJ41910@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, amistry@am-productions.biz References: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> Organisation: Defence Science Technology Organisation X-Message-Flag: "Please Restore Line Breaks If Necessary" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2010 08:51:11.0282 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3563120:01CB6B7C] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1285-6.500.1024-17702.005 X-TM-AS-Result: No--5.736600-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: amistry@am-productions.biz Subject: Re: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51:15 -0000 0n Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 02:13:27PM +0600, Sergey Nikolenko wrote: >On 14.10.2010 09:26, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: >> I have come across a bug that triggers a kernel panic on 8.1-STABLE(r213395) through the >> use of /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-sshfs. Typically i do an sshfs mount as such: >> >> #sshfs username@hostname:/home/username local_mountpoint/ >> >> This mounts the remote filesystem fine. However, when i edit and save a file in >> say vi on the remote sshfs i get the following panic everytime: > >Try this out >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149674 Yes! GREAT! This patch fixes the kernel panic! Can we get this committed ASAP ? -Alex IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 11:46:40 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55B106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4616B8FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:46:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LAA006E03DQYN30@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:46:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.34]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with SMTP id <0LAA002DR3DQL7C0@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:46:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:46:38 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20101014134638.c0feace3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=<N>T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:46:40 -0000 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:17:58 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. I've been > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins > to no end. Or the problem might not be so major, it only shows up on the mailing lists about every six months. So maybe those who have the problem learns how to live with it. If it was a major problem, the mailing lists would be flooded. Just my 0.02 eurocents. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 12:07:51 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067FE1065694 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E014E8FC19 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jbl61f0030mlR8UAFc7qo3; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:07:50 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jc7p1f0033LrwQ28Xc7p8S; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:07:50 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EBD569B418; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:07:48 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <20101014120748.GA82271@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <20101014134638.c0feace3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101014134638.c0feace3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:07:51 -0000 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:46:38PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:17:58 -0700 > Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: > > > There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. I've been > > harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this > > really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins > > to no end. > > Or the problem might not be so major, it only shows up on the mailing > lists about every six months. So maybe those who have the problem learns > how to live with it. > If it was a major problem, the mailing lists would be flooded. > > Just my 0.02 eurocents. I respect your opinion, and you're right, it doesn't come up too often. But I classify this problem as high/severe because it makes a mess of things at the worst time possible -- situations where you absolutely need reliable output due to the nature of the problem you're dealing with (debugging a kernel, figuring out how/why something broke in the kernel, devices complaining about issues, disks reporting problems, etc.). Last time I think this came up was in July or August, and prior to that, March (at least on the lists I'm sub'd to). John Baldwin had some useful things to say back in March about the issue. Relevant thread posts: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70744.html http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70745.html http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70746.html -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 12:59:10 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70431106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AB38FC18 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA03541; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:58:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4CB6FE90.8010203@icyb.net.ua> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:58:56 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <20101014134638.c0feace3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20101014120748.GA82271@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20101014120748.GA82271@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:59:10 -0000 on 14/10/2010 15:07 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:46:38PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:17:58 -0700 >> Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: >> >>> There isn't a 100% reliable way to get rid of this problem. I've been >>> harping about this for years (sorry to sound like a jerk, but this >>> really is a major problem that keeps coming up and annoys users/admins >>> to no end. >> >> Or the problem might not be so major, it only shows up on the mailing >> lists about every six months. So maybe those who have the problem learns >> how to live with it. >> If it was a major problem, the mailing lists would be flooded. >> >> Just my 0.02 eurocents. > > I respect your opinion, and you're right, it doesn't come up too > often. > > But I classify this problem as high/severe because it makes a mess of > things at the worst time possible -- situations where you absolutely > need reliable output due to the nature of the problem you're dealing > with (debugging a kernel, figuring out how/why something broke in the > kernel, devices complaining about issues, disks reporting problems, > etc.). > > Last time I think this came up was in July or August, and prior to that, > March (at least on the lists I'm sub'd to). John Baldwin had some > useful things to say back in March about the issue. Relevant thread > posts: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70744.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70745.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg70746.html > Just to clarify. This still talks about printing to console. During panics and traps. Because of one logical message being printed with multiple printf calls. And so on. But still this is about printing to console. Which is related. Which is a problem too. The other problem is that all writing to message buffer is always done character by character only. Even when writing special tokens like log levels. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 19:07:13 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476D106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCE38FC13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:07:13 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LAA00E09NS0QTE0@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.34]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with SMTP id <0LAA002ZXNRZL7N1@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:07:11 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20101014210711.77f547e2.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <20101014120748.GA82271@icarus.home.lan> References: <AANLkTimy6anK4VGnUzhw=YyiNrKjki-H8qruvh4Dfq+T@mail.gmail.com> <20101013081758.GA52870@icarus.home.lan> <20101014134638.c0feace3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20101014120748.GA82271@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=<N>T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Problem with security log X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:07:13 -0000 On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:07:48 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote: > But I classify this problem as high/severe because it makes a mess of > things at the worst time possible -- situations where you absolutely > need reliable output due to the nature of the problem you're dealing > with (debugging a kernel, figuring out how/why something broke in the > kernel, devices complaining about issues, disks reporting problems, > etc.). And that I can agree on; the problem is severe, and should be fixed. Hopefully that will happen someday. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 23:24:18 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05468106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from TERRY@tmk.com) Received: from server.tmk.com (server.tmk.com [204.141.35.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57B48FC1B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tmk.com by tmk.com (PMDF V6.4 #37010) id <01NT1XCU8FOG008KN2@tmk.com> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:26:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <01NT1YE1I98Q008KN2@tmk.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Subject: Bogus "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" in 8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:24:18 -0000 I've run across a strange problem with the igb driver in 8-STABLE - when I try to do anything with the second igb interface, I get one or more "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" error messages. This can be reproduced as simply as booting in single-user mode with an empty /boot/loader.conf and doing: ifconfig igb0 up ifconfig igb1 up I've tried to track this down, and as far as I can see, this is from some change introduced between 8.1-RELEASE (igb 1.9.5) and the current 8-STABLE (igb 2.0.1). When I try it when booting from the 8.1-RELEASE amd64 DVD, I can bring up both interfaces. When I try it with an 8-STABLE kernel, I get the error and igb1 is missing the "RUNNING" flag: igb0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 9000 options=1bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4> ether 00:25:90:xx:xx:bc inet6 fe80::225:90ff:fe02:xxbc%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=3<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV> media: Ethernet 1000baseT <full-duplex> status: active igb1: flags=8803<UP,BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 9000 options=1bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4> ether 00:25:90:xx:xx:bd inet6 fe80::225:90ff:fe02:xxbd%igb1 prefixlen 64 tentative scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=3<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV> media: Ethernet 1000baseT <full-duplex> status: active I see 3 mbuf_jumbo_page allocation failures from: (1:20) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# vmstat -z | grep -v 0\$ ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS FAILURES 64 Bucket: 536, 0, 263, 3, 263, 106 128 Bucket: 1048, 0, 523, 2, 525, 139 mbuf_jumbo_page: 4096, 12800, 12307, 493, 30343, 3 which correspond to the 3 "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" mess- ages. If I try another "ifconfig igb1 up", I get another console message and the counter goes to 4. If I bump the kern.ipc.nmbjumbop sysctl to a larger value, like 15000, I get the same error message when trying to work with the igb1 device, so I don't think it is a "real" error but indicates a problem in the driver. This is on a Supermicro X8DTH-iF, BIOS 2.0a (latest) with a dual on-board 82576. The dev.igb sysctl's for the two ports (excluding 0 values) are at- tached. Note that most of the igb1 values are zero: (0:34) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# sysctl -a | grep igb.1 | grep -v ": 0" dev.igb.1.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.0.1 dev.igb.1.%driver: igb dev.igb.1.%location: slot=0 function=1 dev.igb.1.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x15d9 subdevice=0x0400 class=0x020000 dev.igb.1.%parent: pci1 dev.igb.1.nvm: -1 dev.igb.1.flow_control: 3 dev.igb.1.enable_aim: 1 dev.igb.1.rx_processing_limit: 100 dev.igb.1.link_irq: 1 dev.igb.1.device_control: 13632065 dev.igb.1.extended_int_mask: 2147483648 dev.igb.1.fc_high_water: 47488 dev.igb.1.fc_low_water: 47472 (0:35) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# sysctl -a | grep igb.0 | grep -v ": 0" dev.igb.0.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.0.1 dev.igb.0.%driver: igb dev.igb.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 dev.igb.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x15d9 subdevice=0x0400 class=0x020000 dev.igb.0.%parent: pci1 dev.igb.0.nvm: -1 dev.igb.0.flow_control: 3 dev.igb.0.enable_aim: 1 dev.igb.0.rx_processing_limit: 100 dev.igb.0.link_irq: 4 dev.igb.0.device_control: 1087373889 dev.igb.0.rx_control: 67338274 dev.igb.0.interrupt_mask: 4 dev.igb.0.extended_int_mask: 2147484671 dev.igb.0.fc_high_water: 47488 dev.igb.0.fc_low_water: 47472 dev.igb.0.queue0.txd_head: 823 dev.igb.0.queue0.txd_tail: 823 dev.igb.0.queue0.tx_packets: 1402 dev.igb.0.queue0.rxd_head: 319 dev.igb.0.queue0.rxd_tail: 318 dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_packets: 319 dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_bytes: 69075 dev.igb.0.queue1.txd_head: 2 dev.igb.0.queue1.txd_tail: 2 dev.igb.0.queue1.tx_packets: 1 dev.igb.0.queue1.rxd_head: 52 dev.igb.0.queue1.rxd_tail: 51 dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_packets: 52 dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_bytes: 6369 dev.igb.0.queue2.txd_head: 27 dev.igb.0.queue2.txd_tail: 27 dev.igb.0.queue2.tx_packets: 13 dev.igb.0.queue2.rxd_head: 72 dev.igb.0.queue2.rxd_tail: 71 dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_packets: 72 dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_bytes: 8789 dev.igb.0.queue3.txd_head: 177 dev.igb.0.queue3.txd_tail: 177 dev.igb.0.queue3.tx_packets: 64 dev.igb.0.queue3.rxd_head: 88 dev.igb.0.queue3.rxd_tail: 87 dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_packets: 88 dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_bytes: 16454 dev.igb.0.queue4.rxd_head: 21 dev.igb.0.queue4.rxd_tail: 20 dev.igb.0.queue4.rx_packets: 21 dev.igb.0.queue4.rx_bytes: 3547 dev.igb.0.queue5.txd_head: 19 dev.igb.0.queue5.txd_tail: 19 dev.igb.0.queue5.tx_packets: 9 dev.igb.0.queue5.rxd_head: 120 dev.igb.0.queue5.rxd_tail: 119 dev.igb.0.queue5.rx_packets: 120 dev.igb.0.queue5.rx_bytes: 35518 dev.igb.0.queue6.txd_head: 21 dev.igb.0.queue6.txd_tail: 21 dev.igb.0.queue6.tx_packets: 10 dev.igb.0.queue6.rxd_head: 21 dev.igb.0.queue6.rxd_tail: 20 dev.igb.0.queue6.rx_packets: 21 dev.igb.0.queue6.rx_bytes: 2876 dev.igb.0.queue7.txd_head: 100 dev.igb.0.queue7.txd_tail: 100 dev.igb.0.queue7.tx_packets: 50 dev.igb.0.queue7.rxd_head: 74 dev.igb.0.queue7.rxd_tail: 73 dev.igb.0.queue7.rx_packets: 1098 dev.igb.0.queue7.rx_bytes: 116918 dev.igb.0.queue8.txd_head: 11 dev.igb.0.queue8.txd_tail: 11 dev.igb.0.queue8.tx_packets: 6 dev.igb.0.queue8.rxd_head: 25 dev.igb.0.queue8.rxd_tail: 24 dev.igb.0.queue8.rx_packets: 25 dev.igb.0.queue8.rx_bytes: 3698 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 3138 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 1815 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 383 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 114 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 217 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 673 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 779 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 61 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 46 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 39 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 270378 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 252216 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 1554 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 1554 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 36 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 65 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 32 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 219 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 1222 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 55 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 19 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 7 dev.igb.0.interrupts.asserts: 3350 dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_pkt_timer: 1815 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_abs_timer: 1815 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_queue_empty: 1554 dev.igb.0.host.rx_good_bytes: 270378 dev.igb.0.host.tx_good_bytes: 252216 Both ports are cabled to the same Cisco switch. If I swap the cables at the FreeBSD end between igb0 and igb1, the problem stays with igb1 so I don't think it is the switch. I have 3 identical systems, all of which exhibit this same issue. Un- fortunately, I don't have any other hardware with dual igb's. I can give a developer root access as well as a web-based remote console if needed to track this down. Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry@tmk.com New York, NY USA From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 23:36:04 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32D106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C3A8FC15 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so288221wwb.31 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kx/9oRj53ctl4Zz76Ox1SGbQfps8S03VH2VNMed0yxE=; b=OdbZAZ9Hje3jeTfcSD032hGoowYokmdEZWnaYx+Hn+ww8J5xT1l54hCNAvWQNdDBtC 5zVZVKiTM3AZA3IeGmof6zAZLd+FETLfWggtAktWjXlfikGTSHZXZuIA1KWFtGLne1VD 4oJz+iCY0RQVxQk0V2kKTYkfDp1f7a3V1uAxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PRwU1006IztikZ430uGGhqabrVQb7HxBACovkRVTVlNLUkafnCmD9t2NUPnP2dslqg au1qis/fhsElYeqDRQKpP7t/CrsLAGtoWbohqsnlIQ5/QOiD2kcWRei08JPubqCrpKlH a+jFFL/0Nx6XeTPzc/JGGgHJ1MfbP3/Aqpwfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.47.196 with SMTP id t46mr739948web.13.1287099362181; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.48.20 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01NT1YE1I98Q008KN2@tmk.com> References: <01NT1YE1I98Q008KN2@tmk.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:36:02 -0700 Message-ID: <AANLkTimAiQH9Esu=YUkf+AF9JX5ZTYhPn-Q1C7kbwxSY@mail.gmail.com> From: Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com> To: Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bogus "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" in 8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:36:04 -0000 The problem is mbuf resources, the driver is autoconfiguring the number of queues based on the number of cores, on newer systems with lots of them this is outstripping the mbuf resource pool. I have decided to hard limit the queues to 8, you can fix the number manually by searching for num_queues in if_igb.c and setting it to something other than 0 for now. I am at work on a number of issues with igb and em right now which is why there has not been an MFC yet. Questions to me, Jack On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> wrote: > I've run across a strange problem with the igb driver in 8-STABLE - when > I try to do anything with the second igb interface, I get one or more > "igb1: > Could not setup receive structures" error messages. > > This can be reproduced as simply as booting in single-user mode with an > empty /boot/loader.conf and doing: > > ifconfig igb0 up > ifconfig igb1 up > > I've tried to track this down, and as far as I can see, this is from some > change introduced between 8.1-RELEASE (igb 1.9.5) and the current 8-STABLE > (igb 2.0.1). When I try it when booting from the 8.1-RELEASE amd64 DVD, I > can bring up both interfaces. When I try it with an 8-STABLE kernel, I get > the error and igb1 is missing the "RUNNING" flag: > > igb0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 9000 > > options=1bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4> > ether 00:25:90:xx:xx:bc > inet6 fe80::225:90ff:fe02:xxbc%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > nd6 options=3<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV> > media: Ethernet 1000baseT <full-duplex> > status: active > igb1: flags=8803<UP,BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 9000 > > options=1bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4> > ether 00:25:90:xx:xx:bd > inet6 fe80::225:90ff:fe02:xxbd%igb1 prefixlen 64 tentative scopeid > 0x2 > nd6 options=3<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV> > media: Ethernet 1000baseT <full-duplex> > status: active > > I see 3 mbuf_jumbo_page allocation failures from: > > (1:20) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# vmstat -z | grep -v 0\$ > ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS > FAILURES > > 64 Bucket: 536, 0, 263, 3, 263, > 106 > 128 Bucket: 1048, 0, 523, 2, 525, > 139 > mbuf_jumbo_page: 4096, 12800, 12307, 493, 30343, > 3 > > which correspond to the 3 "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" mess- > ages. If I try another "ifconfig igb1 up", I get another console message > and > the counter goes to 4. If I bump the kern.ipc.nmbjumbop sysctl to a larger > value, like 15000, I get the same error message when trying to work with > the > igb1 device, so I don't think it is a "real" error but indicates a problem > in the driver. > > This is on a Supermicro X8DTH-iF, BIOS 2.0a (latest) with a dual on-board > 82576. The dev.igb sysctl's for the two ports (excluding 0 values) are at- > tached. Note that most of the igb1 values are zero: > > (0:34) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# sysctl -a | grep igb.1 | grep -v ": 0" > dev.igb.1.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.0.1 > dev.igb.1.%driver: igb > dev.igb.1.%location: slot=0 function=1 > dev.igb.1.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x15d9 > subdevice=0x0400 class=0x020000 > dev.igb.1.%parent: pci1 > dev.igb.1.nvm: -1 > dev.igb.1.flow_control: 3 > dev.igb.1.enable_aim: 1 > dev.igb.1.rx_processing_limit: 100 > dev.igb.1.link_irq: 1 > dev.igb.1.device_control: 13632065 > dev.igb.1.extended_int_mask: 2147483648 > dev.igb.1.fc_high_water: 47488 > dev.igb.1.fc_low_water: 47472 > > (0:35) rz1m:/sys/dev/e1000# sysctl -a | grep igb.0 | grep -v ": 0" > dev.igb.0.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.0.1 > dev.igb.0.%driver: igb > dev.igb.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 > dev.igb.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x15d9 > subdevice=0x0400 class=0x020000 > dev.igb.0.%parent: pci1 > dev.igb.0.nvm: -1 > dev.igb.0.flow_control: 3 > dev.igb.0.enable_aim: 1 > dev.igb.0.rx_processing_limit: 100 > dev.igb.0.link_irq: 4 > dev.igb.0.device_control: 1087373889 > dev.igb.0.rx_control: 67338274 > dev.igb.0.interrupt_mask: 4 > dev.igb.0.extended_int_mask: 2147484671 > dev.igb.0.fc_high_water: 47488 > dev.igb.0.fc_low_water: 47472 > dev.igb.0.queue0.txd_head: 823 > dev.igb.0.queue0.txd_tail: 823 > dev.igb.0.queue0.tx_packets: 1402 > dev.igb.0.queue0.rxd_head: 319 > dev.igb.0.queue0.rxd_tail: 318 > dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_packets: 319 > dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_bytes: 69075 > dev.igb.0.queue1.txd_head: 2 > dev.igb.0.queue1.txd_tail: 2 > dev.igb.0.queue1.tx_packets: 1 > dev.igb.0.queue1.rxd_head: 52 > dev.igb.0.queue1.rxd_tail: 51 > dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_packets: 52 > dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_bytes: 6369 > dev.igb.0.queue2.txd_head: 27 > dev.igb.0.queue2.txd_tail: 27 > dev.igb.0.queue2.tx_packets: 13 > dev.igb.0.queue2.rxd_head: 72 > dev.igb.0.queue2.rxd_tail: 71 > dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_packets: 72 > dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_bytes: 8789 > dev.igb.0.queue3.txd_head: 177 > dev.igb.0.queue3.txd_tail: 177 > dev.igb.0.queue3.tx_packets: 64 > dev.igb.0.queue3.rxd_head: 88 > dev.igb.0.queue3.rxd_tail: 87 > dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_packets: 88 > dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_bytes: 16454 > dev.igb.0.queue4.rxd_head: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue4.rxd_tail: 20 > dev.igb.0.queue4.rx_packets: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue4.rx_bytes: 3547 > dev.igb.0.queue5.txd_head: 19 > dev.igb.0.queue5.txd_tail: 19 > dev.igb.0.queue5.tx_packets: 9 > dev.igb.0.queue5.rxd_head: 120 > dev.igb.0.queue5.rxd_tail: 119 > dev.igb.0.queue5.rx_packets: 120 > dev.igb.0.queue5.rx_bytes: 35518 > dev.igb.0.queue6.txd_head: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue6.txd_tail: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue6.tx_packets: 10 > dev.igb.0.queue6.rxd_head: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue6.rxd_tail: 20 > dev.igb.0.queue6.rx_packets: 21 > dev.igb.0.queue6.rx_bytes: 2876 > dev.igb.0.queue7.txd_head: 100 > dev.igb.0.queue7.txd_tail: 100 > dev.igb.0.queue7.tx_packets: 50 > dev.igb.0.queue7.rxd_head: 74 > dev.igb.0.queue7.rxd_tail: 73 > dev.igb.0.queue7.rx_packets: 1098 > dev.igb.0.queue7.rx_bytes: 116918 > dev.igb.0.queue8.txd_head: 11 > dev.igb.0.queue8.txd_tail: 11 > dev.igb.0.queue8.tx_packets: 6 > dev.igb.0.queue8.rxd_head: 25 > dev.igb.0.queue8.rxd_tail: 24 > dev.igb.0.queue8.rx_packets: 25 > dev.igb.0.queue8.rx_bytes: 3698 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 3138 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 1815 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 383 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 114 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 217 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 673 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 779 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 61 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 46 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 39 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 270378 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 252216 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 1554 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 1554 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 36 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 65 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 32 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 219 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 1222 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 55 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 19 > dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 7 > dev.igb.0.interrupts.asserts: 3350 > dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_pkt_timer: 1815 > dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_abs_timer: 1815 > dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_queue_empty: 1554 > dev.igb.0.host.rx_good_bytes: 270378 > dev.igb.0.host.tx_good_bytes: 252216 > > Both ports are cabled to the same Cisco switch. If I swap the cables at > the FreeBSD end between igb0 and igb1, the problem stays with igb1 so I > don't think it is the switch. > > I have 3 identical systems, all of which exhibit this same issue. Un- > fortunately, I don't have any other hardware with dual igb's. > > I can give a developer root access as well as a web-based remote console > if needed to track this down. > > Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com > terry@tmk.com New York, NY USA > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 01:43:03 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7D91065674 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wilkinsa@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0DA8FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.68.60]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (DSTO/DSTO) with ESMTP id o9F1aL12006845 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:06:21 +0930 (CST) Received: from ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au) by ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.4.0) with ESMTP id <T98bc377a6d83b9443c1b3c@ednmsw520.dsto.defence.gov.au> for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:13:01 +1030 Received: from stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.49]) by ednex510.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:13:01 +1030 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au ([203.6.60.61]) by stlex511.dsto.defence.gov.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:43:00 +0800 Received: from stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9F1h0c2047325 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:43:00 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by stlux550.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9F1h0Ut047324 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:43:00 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:43:00 +0800 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" <alex.wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101015014300.GA42761@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> <20101014085110.GJ41910@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101014085110.GJ41910@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Organisation: Defence Science Technology Organisation X-Message-Flag: "Please Restore Line Breaks If Necessary" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2010 01:43:00.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CE01DE0:01CB6C0A] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.0.0.1285-6.500.1024-17704.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.409800-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:43:03 -0000 0n Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 04:51:10PM +0800, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > 0n Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 02:13:27PM +0600, Sergey Nikolenko wrote: > > >On 14.10.2010 09:26, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > >> I have come across a bug that triggers a kernel panic on 8.1-STABLE(r213395) through the > >> use of /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-sshfs. Typically i do an sshfs mount as such: > >> > >> #sshfs username@hostname:/home/username local_mountpoint/ > >> > >> This mounts the remote filesystem fine. However, when i edit and save a file in > >> say vi on the remote sshfs i get the following panic everytime: > > > >Try this out > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149674 > >Yes! GREAT! This patch fixes the kernel panic! Can we get this committed ASAP ? Committed! |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--+--| | [ 12:44 beat ] Original commit message # | | | | | | | | ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile 1.31 diff | | | | ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/files/patch-fuse_module__fuse_main.c 1.1 | | | | | | | | - Fix panic on FreeBSD 8.x and newer | | | | - Bump PORTREVISION | | | | | | | | PR: ports/149674 | | | | Submitted by: Dmitrij Tejblum <dt AT yandex.ru> | | | | Approved by: Anish Mistry <amistry AT am-productions.biz> (maintainer) | | | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--+--| -Alex IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Department of Defence and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 02:27:26 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B90D106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from TERRY@tmk.com) Received: from server.tmk.com (server.tmk.com [204.141.35.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119FD8FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tmk.com by tmk.com (PMDF V6.4 #37010) id <01NT24SNWLTS008CFX@tmk.com> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:58:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> In-reply-to: "Your message dated Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:36:02 -0700" <AANLkTimAiQH9Esu=YUkf+AF9JX5ZTYhPn-Q1C7kbwxSY@mail.gmail.com> To: Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com> Message-id: <01NT25TZHDDY008CFX@tmk.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <01NT1YE1I98Q008KN2@tmk.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bogus "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" in 8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:27:26 -0000 > The problem is mbuf resources, the driver is autoconfiguring the number of > queues based on the number of cores, on newer systems with lots of them > this is outstripping the mbuf resource pool. That would make sense, as these systems have 16 cores (dual E5520's). > I have decided to hard limit the queues to 8, you can fix the number > manually > by searching for num_queues in if_igb.c and setting it to something other > than > 0 for now. I changed it to 8, and saw the same problem. I noted that the igb boot messages changed from: Oct 14 18:28:02 rz1m kernel: igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 10 vectors Oct 14 18:28:02 rz1m kernel: igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 10 vectors to: Oct 14 21:53:44 rz1m kernel: igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors Oct 14 21:53:44 rz1m kernel: igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors So I dropped the value to 3 (on the assumption that the system uses one more than the specified value per interface), and got: igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 4 vectors igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 4 vectors and both igb interfaces came up. I didn't try to find the maximum number of queues that would work. > I am at work on a number of issues with igb and em right now which is why > there has not been an MFC yet. Understood. Thanks for the quick response and workaround. Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry@tmk.com New York, NY USA From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 14:28:01 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8EB106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F70C8FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org>) id 1P6lGI-0001l2-5v for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:58 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:58 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:51 +0200 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <i99od6$4l3$1@dough.gmane.org> References: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> <20101014085110.GJ41910@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20101015014300.GA42761@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <20101015014300.GA42761@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:28:01 -0000 On 10/15/10 03:43, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > > 0n Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 04:51:10PM +0800, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > > > 0n Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 02:13:27PM +0600, Sergey Nikolenko wrote: > > > > >On 14.10.2010 09:26, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > > >> I have come across a bug that triggers a kernel panic on 8.1-STABLE(r213395) through the > > >> use of /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-sshfs. Typically i do an sshfs mount as such: > > >> > > >> #sshfs username@hostname:/home/username local_mountpoint/ > > >> > > >> This mounts the remote filesystem fine. However, when i edit and save a file in > > >> say vi on the remote sshfs i get the following panic everytime: > > > > > >Try this out > > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=149674 > > > >Yes! GREAT! This patch fixes the kernel panic! Can we get this committed ASAP ? > > Committed! How stable is fuse & sshfs lately? It looks like every time in the past I tried it I soon ended up panicking the system. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:16:04 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6AA106564A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanbru@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from mrout1.yahoo.com (mrout1.yahoo.com [216.145.54.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF768FC14 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cheese.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.50.99]) by mrout1.yahoo.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/y.out) with ESMTP id o9FG4rQN074222 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1287158693; bh=/nor3Dbsh3KV4aaAdzRmQhU8kDlrZiEfRHJldE2bPAI=; h=Subject:From:To:Content-Type:Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FgdXhQ0UFmc+DFIH2v24hvtWg9fhy90MpqzKfTE//k8t55zPdHX8pp5+sQQj6DbJR RjiqFlx6xuVTnavuQan6MZgLF+89D/LT5LpWD4ZiL+awXyAeULvFcdt74QtJXdTAFa rJtjd0FBHg4WdWHcf4VF5mogAvWttfGoNUPya/Pw= From: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> To: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-1.fc12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:16:04 -0000 So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 version up and running. I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is having issues with >32GB of RAM in this box. Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? Sean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:27:17 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808431065670 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E22E8FC20 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K07t1f0030QuhwU574THam; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:17 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K4TF1f0093LrwQ23N4TGX0; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:16 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 146189B418; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:27:14 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> Message-ID: <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:17 -0000 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > version up and running. > > I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > having issues with >32GB of RAM in this box. > > Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the bootloader. There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:28:32 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02372106564A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBDC8FC13 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K2Sr1f0081GXsucAD4UW8t; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:28:30 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K4UV1f0093LrwQ28U4UVAY; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:28:30 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E4B49B425; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:28:29 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> Message-ID: <20101015162829.GA12459@icarus.home.lan> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:28:32 -0000 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:27:14AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > > version up and running. > > > > I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > > having issues with >32GB of RAM in this box. > > > > Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > bootloader. > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. Oh, something I forgot -- make sure you review documentation for your northbridge chipset (if there is one; if not, see specifications for your processor since the memory controller is on-die). Many have strict limits. The BIOS can also inhibit limits based on certain features. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:29:04 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4AD1065695 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8068FC1E for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb39 with SMTP id 39so1211979wwb.31 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:29:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vPAgKoQ91hkTu5kgImiU1OWV6XgJv7ktnvSaQvNFf9c=; b=bICoz5VJq7vKvMbS9GMAmHy2dmf+yYVeJAFXXwx8IBu0bczn/DrCqus9QOlXgzEnJj D6Qojan0Ms5QjKCYnDmSFsVWE7bzVN053HUy5Wjzlk8Tw7EguhxcfvBn2sTNN+yK2Jpm 9J1JXzEecaSDeILVZ6iq0J0UVGcFtwCkyI2Qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QtzgfGKNiEQ44p+Yrl89rwlhp/WELI/ZXNybwt5gvNba1NqgxoJJ+n3kuobo+6cxt9 iwZLsgXdi3AJ4tvIVRs29g9WwCC6gRoOhB7OfCCSCDfNMLs2D7DW/+tqi/mqGXZCY2x7 m4y5hCZiBcoxXHU4pIIkH7uPK6pF76rAb9XTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.10.69 with SMTP id 47mr1045975weu.86.1287160142319; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.48.21 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01NT25TZHDDY008CFX@tmk.com> References: <01NT1YE1I98Q008KN2@tmk.com> <AANLkTimAiQH9Esu=YUkf+AF9JX5ZTYhPn-Q1C7kbwxSY@mail.gmail.com> <01NT25TZHDDY008CFX@tmk.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: <AANLkTikEvsF2Uvh1OQPhwnt+C4mVb8DyR7US5nc5T7TO@mail.gmail.com> From: Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com> To: Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bogus "igb1: Could not setup receive structures" in 8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:04 -0000 The number of MSIX vectors it uses is the number of queues PLUS one vector for link. I would use two or four rather than 3, but it should be ok with that if that's what you wish. Jack On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Terry Kennedy <TERRY@tmk.com> wrote: > > The problem is mbuf resources, the driver is autoconfiguring the number > of > > queues based on the number of cores, on newer systems with lots of them > > this is outstripping the mbuf resource pool. > > That would make sense, as these systems have 16 cores (dual E5520's). > > > I have decided to hard limit the queues to 8, you can fix the number > > manually > > by searching for num_queues in if_igb.c and setting it to something other > > than > > 0 for now. > > I changed it to 8, and saw the same problem. I noted that the igb boot > messages changed from: > > Oct 14 18:28:02 rz1m kernel: igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 10 vectors > Oct 14 18:28:02 rz1m kernel: igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 10 vectors > > to: > > Oct 14 21:53:44 rz1m kernel: igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors > Oct 14 21:53:44 rz1m kernel: igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors > > So I dropped the value to 3 (on the assumption that the system uses one > more than the specified value per interface), and got: > > igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 4 vectors > igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 4 vectors > > and both igb interfaces came up. I didn't try to find the maximum > number of queues that would work. > > > I am at work on a number of issues with igb and em right now which is why > > there has not been an MFC yet. > > Understood. Thanks for the quick response and workaround. > > Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com > terry@tmk.com New York, NY USA > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:30:39 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553C71065670 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spawk@acm.poly.edu) Received: from acm.poly.edu (acm.poly.edu [128.238.9.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F4E8FC1A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97613 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2010 16:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.124?) (spawk@128.238.64.31) by acm.poly.edu with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Oct 2010 16:30:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:30:39 -0400 From: Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20101014 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:30:39 -0000 On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 >> version up and running. >> >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. >> >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > bootloader. > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to the amount of memory. -Boris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 16:40:58 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907D410656A4 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanbru@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from mrout2.yahoo.com (mrout2.yahoo.com [216.145.54.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770BF8FC12 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cheese.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.50.99]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/y.out) with ESMTP id o9FGcHtl044496; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1287160697; bh=0TuFrE+c4NdExtiijwtSmXqqiwxe2Wv2oxC29P1o+wo=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ujUdPk/uUvsARqcJ2bo88MR0G3DieUu0s1KfR0FMpwhzDDxYy1ZlmkswJXgV8tB8L 4imAT7JbIIEkCgrqSmltCOWEwvqAC3owr8yqKkvSVdJPo7ymF5GCePl7BbF9Wvu5ZV ik5hfUkPEy2bdlX/DUAJiRKuasOocTpu1LV7nn2U= From: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> To: Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu> In-Reply-To: <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:38:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-1.fc12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:40:58 -0000 On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: > On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > >> version up and running. > >> > >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. > >> > >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > > bootloader. > > > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > > > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now > 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to > the amount of memory. > > -Boris > __________ Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP DL980 apparently. Sean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:02:55 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4EB106566B for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spawk@acm.poly.edu) Received: from acm.poly.edu (acm.poly.edu [128.238.9.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8358FC1D for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98347 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2010 17:02:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.124?) (spawk@128.238.64.31) by acm.poly.edu with CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Oct 2010 17:02:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4CB8893F.1060707@acm.poly.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:02:55 -0400 From: Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20101014 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> In-Reply-To: <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:02:55 -0000 On 10/15/10 12:38, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: >> On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: >>>> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 >>>> version up and running. >>>> >>>> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is >>>> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. >>>> >>>> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? >>> If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the >>> kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the >>> bootloader. >>> >>> There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, >>> as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience >>> issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. >>> >> I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now >> 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to >> the amount of memory. >> >> -Boris >> __________ > Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP > DL980 apparently. > > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" My same machine spent the first year of its life with 64 GB (running 7 and 8) before its motherboard died, so it would have to be after 64. -Boris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 17:03:35 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589CE106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from thalia-smout.broadpark.no (thalia-smout.broadpark.no [80.202.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EC8FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from terra-smin.broadpark.no ([80.202.8.13]) by thalia-smout.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LAC00FT3CPXKX20@thalia-smout.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no ([80.203.109.34]) by terra-smin.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u3-15.01 64bit (built Feb 12 2010)) with SMTP id <0LAC003Z3CPWFB70@terra-smin.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:03:32 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen <torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20101015190332.bfbafa87.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <i99od6$4l3$1@dough.gmane.org> References: <20101014032608.GP7901@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <4CB6BBA7.50208@swa.org.ru> <20101014085110.GJ41910@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <20101015014300.GA42761@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au> <i99od6$4l3$1@dough.gmane.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=<N>T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: Reproducible Kernel Panic on 8.1-STABLE [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:03:35 -0000 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:51 +0200 Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote: > How stable is fuse & sshfs lately? It looks like every time in the past > I tried it I soon ended up panicking the system. Well, I use sshfs routinely to copy data between my machines, and have done so for about a year. Mostly small files (like; oh I must get the documentation files / whatever for this from my main workstation), but I have also used it for backup of several terabytes of data. I connect and disconnect with sshfs all the time. Most machines run FreeBSD 7 / 8, mostly amd64 and a couple run Linux (Ubuntu). So far, very stable, and almost no problems. I think the bug mentioned in this thread hit me, but just once so far. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 18:20:36 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD79106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br) Received: from auroraalimentos.com.br (mx.auroraalimentos.com.br [200.228.43.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E095D8FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by auroraalimentos.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DFFFD41AF for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:55:55 -0300 (BRT) Received: from auroraalimentos.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.auroraalimentos.com.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QaFbCTQRCf+T for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:55:55 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [121.1.16.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by auroraalimentos.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7A6FD419D for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:55:55 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <4CB89753.2090005@auroraalimentos.com.br> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:02:59 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rcio_Luciano_Donada?= <mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; pt-BR; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:20:36 -0000 Hi, We buy some hardware, new, but came with processors exchanged below what we ask. However, the manufacturing of hardware, informed us that we could install everything and then just replace the processor. how will I use FreeBSD in 90% of these servers, it really can be done well? After replacing the processor, I just simply re-compile the kernel and all packages that were installed previously? Can somebody give me some document FreeBSD.org about these details? thanks -- Márcio Luciano Donada <mdonada -at- auroraalimentos -dot- com -dot- br> Aurora Alimentos - Cooperativa Central Oeste Catarinense Departamento de T.I. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 20:38:46 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50A71065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF1C8FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9FJxGUq054610; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:59:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9FJxGcY054609; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:59:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:59:16 -0500 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> To: M?rcio Luciano Donada <mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br> Message-ID: <20101015195916.GA54541@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <4CB89753.2090005@auroraalimentos.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CB89753.2090005@auroraalimentos.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:59:16 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:38:46 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:02:59PM -0300, M?rcio Luciano Donada wrote: > Hi, > We buy some hardware, new, but came with processors exchanged below what > we ask. However, the manufacturing of hardware, informed us that we > could install everything and then just replace the processor. how will I > use FreeBSD in 90% of these servers, it really can be done well? After > replacing the processor, I just simply re-compile the kernel and all > packages that were installed previously? Can somebody give me some > document FreeBSD.org about these details? You shouldn't need to do anything. Unless you compile with specific optimizations which work with one processor and not the other (uncommon, but not completely unheard of for processors that fix the same socket) then the software will all be the same. -- Brooks --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFMuLKTXY6L6fI4GtQRAlc0AKDoBDczwB/MP8vsdmJIMUsVwfFUQQCfYIFi QnDv4kHVyXPR4GFAVMRzlsA= =dDfb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 20:56:04 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ED51065672 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmarzantowicz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64918FC1C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:56:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so875938ewy.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:56:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0e8tFlpKzyikW8rKt8/rwej+V9yNO+dVcWeP5TppTdA=; b=qhc/PHCdzX6/qRXh5oCdOtG+f/+m2Ph6SD54EPCYOmmhYfPDUfzHVaiiZVUe27/mcg eaVsUoYWVkNKjfTBbZkM7xT7IRPWZRC5/Ju2BmNlBy4CEi457oFQAreLnM9W+3CT1634 eExKdiQIIexizOTJYvNYERRJ07gqx8zFW65fA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=S/BMEl0T4iu/tKNki8FzETpHaWbvxn8PMommZRfEmvjxZCzpPCp8N0HGyYMU1p69Ce FWgs+ipltcktVinxTxvKW/fIyn9e0nP3C+/4iJ6gSi2jktGc9T3lWvwPMbou+/flNxr7 vtfXMPxVmQi80xoJ2xX3G/NdlgejNm+MmkcgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.22.203 with SMTP id o11mr1284038ebb.83.1287174592157; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.9 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB89753.2090005@auroraalimentos.com.br> References: <4CB89753.2090005@auroraalimentos.com.br> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:29:51 +0200 Message-ID: <AANLkTi=0qGoCTWdD4iW3JuqDDzPejLpSXwWXv_MnLsQw@mail.gmail.com> From: Mateusz Marzantowicz <mmarzantowicz@gmail.com> To: =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=A1rcio_Luciano_Donada?= <mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:56:04 -0000 2010/10/15 M=C3=A1rcio Luciano Donada <mdonada@auroraalimentos.com.br> > Hi, > We buy some hardware, new, but came with processors exchanged below what > we ask. However, the manufacturing of hardware, informed us that we > could install everything and then just replace the processor. how will I > use FreeBSD in 90% of these servers, it really can be done well? After > replacing the processor, I just simply re-compile the kernel and all > packages that were installed previously? Can somebody give me some > document FreeBSD.org about these details? > > thanks > -- > M=C3=A1rcio Luciano Donada <mdonada -at- auroraalimentos -dot- com -dot- = br> > Aurora Alimentos - Cooperativa Central Oeste Catarinense > Departamento de T.I. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It is very likely that you can do without kernel recompilation. Unless you downgrade from amd64 family processor to i386 (from 64 to 32 bits) or what is very hard to do, you e.g. change to powerpc from Intel (but you have to change more than processor in that case) your kernel won't need any changes= . You can make some tweaks in you config of course and than recompile the kernel. Mateusz Marzantowicz From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 15 23:41:43 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAE2106566C for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140E8FC14 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id CAA03725; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:41:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P6tu1-000BVm-2y; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:41:33 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB8E6AC.8070301@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:41:32 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> In-Reply-To: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:41:43 -0000 on 15/10/2010 19:04 Sean Bruno said the following: > So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > version up and running. > > I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > having issues with >32GB of RAM in this box. > > Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? Is there anything else peculiar about this system besides RAM? Because 32GB+ do not impress actually :) -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 03:45:00 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B398106564A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from to.my.trociny@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F38FC12 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so1812661bwz.13 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:44:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :x-comment-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=2ACZFI7kBK5lI3qO6NnE54Wr+N/Bs4UUskCAZLGyIX4=; b=OHSo4CCtd/qGwgz4vd78RZtQkHCyyFd+3jRrlVSQZZjnF5zjdekCnbXXRkiUTS6HOI tuDaTRdMXzawd/q6GIL2YbXK6j5a2CbjX0eBt8/EHqPZlj2tbijyspY02W/bNGhiHYdP vZqxnTj8o71DqKR6gV9jnb+wwVZEcj9BBWj8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:x-comment-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=xTNiqdHMjO5ky3qgV6eaQdCbpbESKHEIygKeOkVZM19/sp5iJ3EhgPlP39Zww0qbPV Rt1TbnLxiIpxhBPeZcBY+ue+ehWMvVKNhOIFHnmo1JgJIhiT6JrLDN66mkUe/sXCZlgv K4GRcaPbcveyP0DsJp6AIgSzf6iEuJrcCC9Mc= Received: by 10.204.137.193 with SMTP id x1mr1119412bkt.165.1287173621017; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([95.69.174.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u4sm10526565bkz.5.2010.10.15.13.13.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mikolaj Golub <to.my.trociny@gmail.com> To: Pete French <petefrench@ticketswitch.com> References: <E1P2nNZ-000Ldg-1r@dilbert.ticketswitch.com> X-Comment-To: Pete French Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:13:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: <E1P2nNZ-000Ldg-1r@dilbert.ticketswitch.com> (Pete French's message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:55:05 +0100") Message-ID: <86ocavxlho.fsf@kopusha.home.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd@jdc.parodius.com Subject: Re: Has anyone usd hast in production yet - opinions ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:45:00 -0000 On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:55:05 +0100 Pete French wrote: >> Please see the freebsd-fs mailing list, which has quite a large number >> of problem reports/issues being posted to it on a regular basis (and >> patches are often provided). PF> Thanks have signed up - I was signed up to 'geom' but not that one. PF> A large number of problem reports is not quite what I was hping for, but PF> good to know,a nd maybe I shall hold off for a while :-) Being the author of many problem reports I can say that most of them were not critical and for marginal cases (like some issues with hooks or a race that showed up when changing HAST role in loop -- you would never do this in production). And fixes were committed in several days after a report. I don't know any open issue. -- Mikolaj Golub From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 14:26:08 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE12106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FBA8FC18 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <bounces@nabble.com>) id 1P77i3-0001g3-LU for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:26:07 -0700 Message-ID: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:26:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl Subject: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:26:08 -0000 Hello. Usually attempting to write DVD-R bombs out, after writing can't fixate DVD+R. Increasing timeout helps with fixating, but following error just destroys media. Any stupid mistake on my part? # cdrecord(wodim) dev=1,0,0 -v -data *.iso Track 01: 0 of 2858 MB written.Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0xFFFFFFFF [], Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x00 Qual 0x00 (no additional sense information) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 22.883s timeout 40s write track data: error after 0 bytes wodim: A write error occured. wodim: Please properly read the error message above. Writing time: 32.681s Average write speed 77.7x. Fixating... Fixating time: 22.473s wodim: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets. wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0 r213836 amd64 ahci, scbus, da, cd, pass compiled in kernel. best regards, - Jakub Lach -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/cdrtools--devel-and-wodim-broken-tp29978939p29978939.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 14:28:36 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD0F106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBA18FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <bounces@nabble.com>) id 1P77kR-0001rI-Vy for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:28:35 -0700 Message-ID: <29978949.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:28:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl References: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:28:36 -0000 Forgot to mention device. cd0 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-U20N HX11> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA6, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes) Previously it worked. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/cdrtools--devel-and-wodim-broken-tp29978939p29978949.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 15:11:30 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DF6106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1F88FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id SAA13811; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:11:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P78Po-000Fcq-9W; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:11:20 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB9C096.1070007@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:11:18 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> References: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:11:30 -0000 on 16/10/2010 17:26 Jakub Lach said the following: > > Hello. > > Usually attempting to write DVD-R bombs out, after writing can't fixate > DVD+R. > Increasing timeout helps with fixating, but following error just destroys > media. > > Any stupid mistake on my part? And you have hald running? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 16:25:08 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E861B1065694; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [IPv6:2001:4068:10::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15DD8FC1D; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis.fra.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA76841C729; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:25:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([192.168.74.103]) by localhost (amavis.fra.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f2QP3DEV2aDI; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id DB15E41C733; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298734448F3; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:24:58 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20100909211621.H31898@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> Message-ID: <20101016162038.X10185@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <20100909173231.1282D1CC3A@ptavv.es.net> <20100909211621.H31898@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C4B for modern FreeBSD [was: I4B: what happened, which options? [was: Policy for removing working code]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:25:09 -0000 On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: Hi, > 2) I am (was) still running C4B on amd64 on RELENG_8 with a privately > hacked together capi call log, which is a hack without me even > thinking about capi (specs) when doing it, but was doing the job > for me for 7 and 8. Getting the last C4B compiled for 8/HEAD or > amd64 isn't a lot of patching and I can probably provide patches > to you, if you want to make it a port. The PRIV constants needed > for this in the base system have been shiping for a while: > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=192577 having sent out the patch to the only person who requested it privately, I thought for later reference I should post it here as well: ! Allow the latest Capi4BSD from http://www.nord-com.net/thomas.wintergerst/ ! to compile on amd64 as well as modern FreeBSD versions without suser() ! or I4B support. http://people.freebsd.org/~bz/20101016-01-c4b-amd64-priv.diff I have done some late changed to get the __FreeBSD_version checks as correct as possible and it compiles on my FreeBSD HEAD/amd64 but I haven't tested it more. I used to use it for a simple call log in the past but not more either. If you give it a try, send me feedback! /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb Welcome a new stage of life. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 17:21:50 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F47E106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3858FC16 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <bounces@nabble.com>) id 1P7AS5-0005iJ-R8 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:21:49 -0700 Message-ID: <29979695.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4CB9C096.1070007@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl References: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> <4CB9C096.1070007@icyb.net.ua> Subject: Re: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:50 -0000 Andriy Gapon wrote: > > on 16/10/2010 17:26 Jakub Lach said the following: >> >> Hello. >> >> Usually attempting to write DVD-R bombs out, after writing can't fixate >> DVD+R. >> Increasing timeout helps with fixating, but following error just destroys >> media. >> >> Any stupid mistake on my part? > > And you have hald running? > > -- > Andriy Gapon > > > No, I don't use hal. Since when it's requirement? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/cdrtools--devel-and-wodim-broken-tp29978939p29979695.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 19:04:41 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8861065670 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pingle.org) Received: from willow.pingle.org (willow.pingle.org [68.76.213.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AC68FC0A for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from willow.pingle.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by willow.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5161141B; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:47:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pingle.org Received: from willow.pingle.org ([127.0.0.1]) by willow.pingle.org (willow.pingle.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A-eyVEGPh0cI; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.20.12] (hpcw.hpcisp.com [68.76.213.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jim) by willow.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F5AA1141A; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4CB9F336.7050501@pingle.org> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:47:18 -0400 From: Jim Pingle <lists@pingle.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eivinde@terraplane.org References: <201009132016.o8DKGmw5053180@lurza.secnetix.de> <20100913234355.I96626@rumrunner.mine.nu> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009141512120.54615@wonkity.com> <20100914231728.D5192@rumrunner.mine.nu> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009141545420.54725@wonkity.com> <20100915214234.I13301@rumrunner.mine.nu> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1009152139370.66198@wonkity.com> <20100916181501.N20886@rumrunner.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20100916181501.N20886@rumrunner.mine.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 8.1 + xorg + radeonhd hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:04:41 -0000 On 9/16/2010 12:20 PM, Eivind E wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Eivind E wrote: >>> (WW) RADEONHD(0): !!! Option HPD is set !!! >>> This shall only be used to work around broken connector tables. >>> Please report your findings to radeonhd@opensuse.org >> >> radeon doesn't have this option at all. >>> (II) RADEONHD(0): Output VGA_1 using monitor section Skjerm >> >> Odd. Later on on it looks like it's using DVI-I_1/analog. See my >> xorg.conf for an example of tying monitors to specific outputs in the >> Device section. > > I tried your configuration file so both of these should be fine, > however, I'm not quite sure what's correct for the Monitor-DVI-X > when using the adaptor to vga which came with the card. The monitor > is an old crt one. Not meaning to resurrect a month-old thread but I'm a bit behind on my list mail. I just thought I'd pass long that I had problems in the past with my older Radeon when using a VGA to DVI connector. Using either a normal VGA port, or a DVI cable on the DVI port worked fine. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2007-September/005251.html Jim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 19:21:53 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4067106566B for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9A18FC08 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o9GJLqfM092595; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:21:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o9GJLqvi092592; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:21:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:21:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> In-Reply-To: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1010161318020.92437@wonkity.com> References: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:21:53 -0000 On Sat, 16 Oct 2010, Jakub Lach wrote: > > Usually attempting to write DVD-R bombs out, after writing can't fixate > DVD+R. > Increasing timeout helps with fixating, but following error just destroys > media. > > Any stupid mistake on my part? > > # cdrecord(wodim) dev=1,0,0 -v -data *.iso Isn't wodim a branch of the real cdrecord? I can't find it in ports. > Track 01: 0 of 2858 MB written.Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 > scsi sendcmd: retryable error > CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0xFFFFFFFF [], Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x00 Qual 0x00 (no additional sense information) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 22.883s timeout 40s I've had mixed success with cdrecord (sysutils/cdrtools-devel) over the years. Although growisofs is reputed to be less correct, I can't recall it ever having a problem. Oh, and I don't recall hal causing problems lately. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 19:36:23 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51370106566C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8187A8FC0C for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id WAA17092; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:36:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1P7CYE-000Fv9-L1; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:36:18 +0300 Message-ID: <4CB9FEB1.8000809@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:36:17 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> References: <29978939.post@talk.nabble.com> <4CB9C096.1070007@icyb.net.ua> <29979695.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <29979695.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrtools /devel and wodim broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:36:23 -0000 on 16/10/2010 20:21 Jakub Lach said the following: > No, I don't use hal. Since when it's requirement? Hm, why did you decide that it is a requirement? I just asked a question, and thanks for the answer. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 20:02:28 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7385D1065672 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanbru@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com (mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.107.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2AB8FC1F for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (proxy8.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.13]) by mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/y.out) with ESMTP id o9GJq1Wu083754 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:52:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1287258721; bh=+PEi/xB7ZYAcp645NalP+Z9wsocZVP9CXodogcO+cN0=; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XymS7wDw/CcAtjb3zlhC2Prwwjd6Z5pnwNPf9KFEYR8+0xDh+wqr5JT9tNEKxhvia MZkFpVCPu3zJL0PllCl9w4iAAlLpPygba97/fUbw9Lp1oIN6e5pWJMCZVoA5gQGRen Ag6/LkNkBRfyEf6TiVpHNlWGe6uCUJfwQl6fOwmg= From: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> To: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:52:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-1.fc12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sbruno@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:02:28 -0000 On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:38 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: > > On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > > >> version up and running. > > >> > > >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > > >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. > > >> > > >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > > > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > > > bootloader. > > > > > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > > > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > > > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > > > > > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now > > 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to > > the amount of memory. > > > > -Boris > > __________ > > Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP > DL980 apparently. > > Sean Hrm, no success today setting available RAM to 32G and reducing the number of processors to 8. I've disabled and tweaked pretty much everything available to me here and have tried to boot up the fbsd 8 install media with the same result as using the fbsd 7 media: Repeated and continuous panics on all processors simultaneously after selecting install method from the boot menu. Not sure what to do at this point to get the system up and running. Suggestions? Sean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 20:16:05 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855BA106566B for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698B78FC0A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KXp11f0030b6N64ADYG4u9; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:16:04 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.41.155]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KYG31f00D3LrwQ28PYG41b; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:16:04 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B1EFC9B418; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:16:03 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: sbruno@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101016201603.GA9807@icarus.home.lan> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:16:05 -0000 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:38 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: > > > On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > > > >> version up and running. > > > >> > > > >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > > > >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. > > > >> > > > >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > > > > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > > > > bootloader. > > > > > > > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > > > > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > > > > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > > > > > > > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now > > > 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to > > > the amount of memory. > > > > > > -Boris > > > __________ > > > > Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP > > DL980 apparently. > > > > Sean > > Hrm, no success today setting available RAM to 32G and reducing the > number of processors to 8. > > I've disabled and tweaked pretty much everything available to me here > and have tried to boot up the fbsd 8 install media with the same result > as using the fbsd 7 media: Repeated and continuous panics on all > processors simultaneously after selecting install method from the boot > menu. > > Not sure what to do at this point to get the system up and running. > Suggestions? Can you boot a Linux liveCD installation of some sort for comparison? That would possibly rule out OS vs. hardware/BIOS ordeals. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 21:58:24 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E071065679 for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seanbru@yahoo-inc.com) Received: from mrout3.yahoo.com (mrout3.yahoo.com [216.145.54.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB0F8FC1A for <stable@freebsd.org>; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (proxy8.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.13]) by mrout3.yahoo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/y.out) with ESMTP id o9GLw9I3092199; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=yahoo-inc.com; s=cobra; t=1287266289; bh=S1vnRAYnsfb2Rwe+iJHSu5b0pMGuOUh145XEtwzPv38=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CJi5zWUir1T9sr+NviU7EjcLLaeT6a5RY73G6ghDun/psK0Zm5n9JNJah2esc6ikq hTDDitIFvW1fcOy1NIW+94VmRn568ELsHIxHS59qovrByqKsOkfr6eXWHIfmkuo9Qy t8zYlqyw3DZG0QQGRFwBrMcG2UyjZ+dEwZyNON7M= From: Sean Bruno <seanbru@yahoo-inc.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20101016201603.GA9807@icarus.home.lan> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> <20101016201603.GA9807@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:58:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1287266288.2522.27.camel@home-yahoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 (2.28.3-1.fc12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:58:24 -0000 On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 13:16 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:38 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: > > > > On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > > >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > > > > >> version up and running. > > > > >> > > > > >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel is > > > > >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. > > > > >> > > > > >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > > > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, then the > > > > > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > > > > > bootloader. > > > > > > > > > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you describe, > > > > > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experience > > > > > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > > > > > > > > > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and now > > > > 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to > > > > the amount of memory. > > > > > > > > -Boris > > > > __________ > > > > > > Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP > > > DL980 apparently. > > > > > > Sean > > > > Hrm, no success today setting available RAM to 32G and reducing the > > number of processors to 8. > > > > I've disabled and tweaked pretty much everything available to me here > > and have tried to boot up the fbsd 8 install media with the same result > > as using the fbsd 7 media: Repeated and continuous panics on all > > processors simultaneously after selecting install method from the boot > > menu. > > > > Not sure what to do at this point to get the system up and running. > > Suggestions? > > Can you boot a Linux liveCD installation of some sort for comparison? > That would possibly rule out OS vs. hardware/BIOS ordeals. > We've successfully installed RHEL 5u4 on it, I'll fire that up and post the boot output shortly. Sean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 22:38:47 2010 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD16106564A; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A44E8FC12; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o9GMLknU070596; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9GMLkSG070595; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:46 -0500 From: Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org> To: sbruno@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101016222146.GA70296@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <1287158693.5225.7.camel@home-yahoo> <20101015162714.GA12400@icarus.home.lan> <4CB881AF.1080708@acm.poly.edu> <1287160697.5225.14.camel@home-yahoo> <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1287258720.2522.26.camel@home-yahoo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:21:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kpanic on install >32GB of RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:38:47 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:38 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 09:30 -0700, Boris Kochergin wrote: > > > On 10/15/10 12:27, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:04:53AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > >> So, trying to get a massively overpowered HP box up with 7.3 amd64 > > > >> version up and running. > > > >> > > > >> I can't tell at the moment, but it looks like the installer kernel= is > > > >> having issues with>32GB of RAM in this box. > > > >> > > > >> Are we using the i386 kernel on amd64 installs? > > > > If you booted a FreeBSD image that has "amd64" in the ISO name, the= n the > > > > kernel is actually 64-bit (amd64). The only i386 piece would be the > > > > bootloader. > > > > > > > > There's probably someone here who can help with the issue you descr= ibe, > > > > as there's occasional posts here and there from people who experien= ce > > > > issues/problems when using very large amounts of RAM. > > > > > > > I've got an amd64 machine with 48 GB of RAM that has run 7, 8, and no= w=20 > > > 9, which leads me to believe that your issue is not solely related to= =20 > > > the amount of memory. > > >=20 > > > -Boris > > > __________ > >=20 > > Edge case at 64G perhaps? That's the minimum you can get in the HP > > DL980 apparently. > >=20 > > Sean >=20 > Hrm, no success today setting available RAM to 32G and reducing the > number of processors to 8. >=20 > I've disabled and tweaked pretty much everything available to me here > and have tried to boot up the fbsd 8 install media with the same result > as using the fbsd 7 media: Repeated and continuous panics on all > processors simultaneously after selecting install method from the boot > menu. >=20 > Not sure what to do at this point to get the system up and running. > Suggestions? I can say it's not the RAM amount since I'm running 8 on: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz (2261.01-MHz K8-class = CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x106a5 Family =3D 6 Model =3D 1a St= epping =3D 5 Features=3D0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PG= E,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> Features2=3D0x9ce3bd<SSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,P= DCM,DCA,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT> AMD Features=3D0x28100800<SYSCALL,NX,RDTSCP,LM> AMD Features2=3D0x1<LAHF> TSC: P-state invariant real memory =3D 77310459904 (73729 MB) avail memory =3D 74596175872 (71140 MB) -- Brooks --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFMuiV5XY6L6fI4GtQRArFmAKDcq8wuuZXt00aRhDfUO4j7k6bZ5wCdG56F IYSnGHITY0DtTl5JY9fnFAY= =zFi+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--