From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 02:27:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7809DB46 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 02:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.metricspace.net (mail.metricspace.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617::103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F38637E2 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 02:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617:2c2b:b54b:f115:5811] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617:2c2b:b54b:f115:5811]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.metricspace.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC3C11F3F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 02:27:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for blackphone MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Lenovo W540 Hang on boot, preliminary report From: Eric McCorkle Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:27:26 -0500 To: Mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7D4A5D89-AC9E-405F-811C-A92E97AB433C@metricspace.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 02:27:39 -0000 I'm seeing my system (Lenovo W540) freeze during boot after updating to current. Apologies for brevity; I'm typing this on a phone and will send more details after I restore my system to a bootable state. The last thing that shows up is launching application processors, and then the message about timestamp counters. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 05:37:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3783B1 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.metricspace.net (mail.metricspace.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:617::103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FB929E9 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.75] (unknown [172.16.0.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.metricspace.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90B2B1FCA for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5497AE10.3050802@metricspace.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 00:37:20 -0500 From: Eric McCorkle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lenovo W540 Hang on boot, preliminary report References: <7D4A5D89-AC9E-405F-811C-A92E97AB433C@metricspace.net> In-Reply-To: <7D4A5D89-AC9E-405F-811C-A92E97AB433C@metricspace.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:37:21 -0000 Disregard this report. The root cause was unrelated to the kernel update. On 12/21/2014 21:27, Eric McCorkle wrote: > I'm seeing my system (Lenovo W540) freeze during boot after updating to current. Apologies for brevity; I'm typing this on a phone and will send more details after I restore my system to a bootable state. > > The last thing that shows up is launching application processors, and then the message about timestamp counters. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 24 15:30:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AEAA30E; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.metricspace.net (207-172-209-89.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.209.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B3F6447C; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.68] (unknown [172.16.0.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.metricspace.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EF1A16F6; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:30:26 +0000 (UTC) References: <54652C60.9050909@metricspace.net> <20141114161857.GA49507@dchagin.static.corbina.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3A965FB1-FB88-4506-935F-F30B812D814D@metricspace.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B511) From: Eric McCorkle Subject: Re: Lenovo W540 blank screen on suspend/resume after update Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:30:29 -0500 To: Adrian Chadd Cc: "freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org" , Chagin Dmitry , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 15:30:34 -0000 Sorry for the long silence here... Even after applying the patch sent by dmitry, the problem seems to persist. = I've managed to track down the revision at which the problem appears, thoug= h. It shows up in 274085, when vt became the default console, though the pr= oblem shows up with both sc and vt. I may try reverting to before that point and applying your and dmitry's patc= hes and see if the problem shows up (however, for separate reasons, x11 is n= on-functional now for me) > On Nov 14, 2014, at 18:40, Adrian Chadd wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Thanks. Please do. start by reverting the patches from me and jkim; > see if it changes the behaviour. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > -adrian >=20 >=20 >> On 14 November 2014 12:33, Eric McCorkle wrote: >> Sorry, don't remember the working version. >>=20 >> I have acpi_video compiled in to my kernel. I've tried it with both vt an= d >> sc and gotten the same result. >>=20 >> Might try to do more diagnostics this weekend. >>=20 >> On November 14, 2014 11:18:57 AM EST, Chagin Dmitry = >> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 02:13:35PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> Does it stay blank if you have acpi_video (+ vt) loaded? >>>>=20 >>>> What was the revision of 11 you were previously running? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -adrian >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 13 November 2014 14:10, Eric McCorkle wrote:= >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hello, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I updated my kernel and userland with a fresh update from 11 yesterday= , >>>>> and >>>>> I'm now seeing a blank screen after suspend/resume, where it was >>>>> working >>>>> fine previously. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I had been trying out the new vt console, so I switched back to sc, bu= t >>>>> the >>>>> blank screen is still there. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry, I don't have any information beyond this (quite busy >>>>> these days). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Eric >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Lenovo t540, same here. r274463 + sc. resume worked two weeks ago. >>=20 >> -- >> Sent from my Blackphone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 24 16:13:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FCCB10B; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.metricspace.net (207-172-209-89.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.209.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F4526B8; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.68] (unknown [172.16.0.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.metricspace.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01A8B171C; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: VESA X11 drivers non-functional after recent update From: Eric McCorkle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B511) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:13:55 -0500 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:13:54 -0000 Hello, I have a laptop with an Optimus setup with haswell graphics and an nvidia ca= rd. As none of this is currently supported, I had been using the VESA drive= rs. However, the VESA driver no longer functions after I updated ports yest= erday (most likely connected to the removal of old x11). I don't have the specific error message as I'm typing this on another device= , but it seems that the driver can't access the bios (messages include "cann= ot read V_BIOS", neither device reports a bios segment, etc). Is there something I can do to restore the VESA drivers to a functioning sta= te (or alternatively, any sort of development haswell driver I can use), or i= s the only option to revert the ports directory and rebuild everything?= From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 25 01:01:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46C0DC69 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBBC51EA7 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id n12so12126548wgh.6 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VhF6hB1cjF/Q4ulmP0PmCZkzkVDdXeuMEVvhluUQmwI=; b=kpwcKxECfy0Q3QdpKv40TktRh5w343lEt3tVYCDghO+nH4IG5O0x7zM73J2EUzS87y SS9iEndW0AjPXaiY5HQyVQYJIYJoL+HH+yAccOFawjs7IgUB/9SxDA+5yhLdm+IrWAYJ lYrE5wM1amffgJPxzWnLEMIBhupD1I0bctEhEYMWQT3mPP8+Eon7+ouo1/wfzbIaDi4W LdCCOKBHeUFBxES0/HdjtJea1Mu4amyg2BZs1rpgCTv3lCKt62DHxKgD8H5zIZ05mftt bxHBf9ep2+lgR0/e2+1p342QnkdEKGQW0JmVhgz12yP7ACGHcAwc/NoCnTDTE57tC9HK Q7Aw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.193 with SMTP id cg1mr56298756wib.26.1419469258278; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:00:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.195 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:00:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 17:00:58 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5MG9ELp2h8xHmOcT7XmumlO0j4U Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook From: Adrian Chadd To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:01:00 -0000 Hi, It turns out that what I thought was a C720 here is a C710. So I'm in your boat. The default firmware doesn't include SeaBIOS, so it'd be nice to get some actual directions on how to update things to support that. So if you're able to help me get directions for updating the firmware on this thing to include SeaBIOS, I'll go through and figure out the rest of the stuff based on what work has already been done for the C720. Thanks, -adrian On 18 December 2014 at 15:06, Warren Block wrote: > A C710 Chromebook is available to me. The last time someone asked (in > 2013), there was no clear answer on whether this system could run FreeBSD. > Anyone know more now? > > It has a Celeron 847, 2G of RAM (and two SODIMM sockets), and a normal SATA > port. I'm aware that the firmware needs to be updated/modified to include > SeaBIOS. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 25 03:25:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ADBBDD9; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D014064D40; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBP3PPqx082470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:25:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id sBP3PPLX082467; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:25:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:25:25 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:25:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:25:27 -0000 On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, Adrian Chadd wrote: > It turns out that what I thought was a C720 here is a C710. So I'm in > your boat. The default firmware doesn't include SeaBIOS, so it'd be > nice to get some actual directions on how to update things to support > that. > > So if you're able to help me get directions for updating the firmware > on this thing to include SeaBIOS, I'll go through and figure out the > rest of the stuff based on what work has already been done for the > C720. This is one location I found: https://johnlewis.ie/custom-chromebook-firmware/faq/ It's probably too late for me to get the C710 myself, now. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 25 03:49:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E67CF1FA for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76EA564F70 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a1so12509975wgh.9 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:48:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=h3n4QMx4jyWoI/ezTZxkOVhvhK4Il9j5rcSJRpwchi0=; b=fOFsIGiWfunnZPZAfbImN6PfjhjzLAWW868goUP3PIexlJjbDRVLFnbOoWQGHs9aNP HfPr6BvfaQBIAFfXSBSdLMNoJ8FlOUk9szbCPiuOBUccvTqoJZOEvgVsvA44LzN36a68 awz5VwJTQpFNfMwkUy5GYJWQH6Nk/llzM7Dau6lAA48IYslvE5Yz3ZoELgKC91TkfSF7 vHLZfg/ub/AKXvwJRIAVd+prxHsN5ESGM4PgUtzVOan6xvR4lRzlJoaY/DrSFKEVgZ9D FEc5CWTy/66/OOJkQ4AMPgxaYWe1zHzImyu5TblhKpeB3vp9lVX2xIzEuZow1uC+M1xF XA6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.85.83 with SMTP id f19mr70609090wjz.20.1419479338926; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:48:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.195 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:48:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:48:58 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PTksi9z1hYRE3D81y9gmBnu523A Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook From: Adrian Chadd To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 03:49:01 -0000 On 24 December 2014 at 19:25, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> It turns out that what I thought was a C720 here is a C710. So I'm in >> your boat. The default firmware doesn't include SeaBIOS, so it'd be >> nice to get some actual directions on how to update things to support >> that. >> >> So if you're able to help me get directions for updating the firmware >> on this thing to include SeaBIOS, I'll go through and figure out the >> rest of the stuff based on what work has already been done for the >> C720. > > > This is one location I found: > > https://johnlewis.ie/custom-chromebook-firmware/faq/ > > It's probably too late for me to get the C710 myself, now. I think we should focus on the C720, get that stuff into -HEAD and tested, then work on the newer Bay Trail stuff. Unfortunately we're still lacking a graphics stack for it. :( -adrian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 18:14:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 247DA905 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8D54669C7 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id n3so19002432wiv.5 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ajtd5tZhcTa13+9HhM9LD/WKFkxNJEpXqIzntexdluk=; b=a7Emu5TSUob2DBU/lig3ae8yXhAN4o25PdObWIgIxL6qO4Aq0q2HxO7NiNNUtOad17 nTuV2e3dVWNhzagqIRyT0jjBAO+OkDvSIUbaQ5JVzL6TeV/QmfMmK+jBgOEIBox0ACNT SzL9KWlF4d7M9IfX/vLtEcBfh29Dh0CVWFxrRv97/wD9LTsB3tFzBFWCw+HAToyLY5UP yHbiQVhhftH8iWCBoAPny/bqWgVe4oT7XPtzqYzux2LzTVz9tTj2rTxoXCA8fmJ3kM+t +fA1QfQDS9CodEat9vBteQjmHeWN6ign3vkn9msiZeBXZpsmdBPwc86DXE/NS3lgJ19E yGWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.24.103 with SMTP id t7mr93246596wjf.15.1419704056160; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.195 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:14:16 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7nNjb8QJ_jeoIstTVoXGKpZ_f3k Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook From: Adrian Chadd To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:14:18 -0000 Hi, So we'd have to setup a chromeos layout partition table and such. http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/disk-format .. but their boot environment expects an EFI32 boot loader. And we don't have that support just yet. (Another reason to get EFI32 done..) -adrian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 18:52:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 819B5F9C; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A1B66F34; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBRIqGZa020394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id sBRIqG80020391; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:52:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 18:52:24 -0000 On Sat, 27 Dec 2014, Adrian Chadd wrote: > So we'd have to setup a chromeos layout partition table and such. > > http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/disk-format > > .. but their boot environment expects an EFI32 boot loader. And we > don't have that support just yet. > > (Another reason to get EFI32 done..) My impression was that with SeaBIOS, it could boot from a normal MBR. But I do not have a machine to test. The C710's advantage is that RAM can be added and it takes a normal 2.5 SATA device (7mm, but still). The C720 has a faster processor, but RAM (2G) is soldered in, there are no sockets, and the SSD is the newer M.2 form factor. It already has SeaBIOS, though. While searching, I saw information that Debian could be used on these, or at least be booted. There is also a Youtube video showing Windows 7 running on one of these machines. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 19:11:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64B06603; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 19:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB281F6; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 19:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.142] (helo=unixarea.DDR.dd) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4wmC-0000Gg-VU; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:11:49 +0100 Received: from unixarea.DDR.dd (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3) with ESMTP id sBRJBjtb001711; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:11:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3/Submit) id sBRJBi1K001710; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:11:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: unixarea.DDR.dd: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:11:43 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Warren Block Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook Message-ID: <20141227191143.GA1578@unixarea.DDR.dd> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Warren Block , Adrian Chadd , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.142 Cc: Adrian Chadd , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 19:11:53 -0000 El día Saturday, December 27, 2014 a las 11:52:16AM -0700, Warren Block escribió: > The C710's advantage is that RAM can be added and it takes a normal 2.5 > SATA device (7mm, but still). > > The C720 has a faster processor, but RAM (2G) is soldered in, there are > no sockets, and the SSD is the newer M.2 form factor. It already has > SeaBIOS, though. Re/ C720: There are detailed information and patches how to install HEAD on a C720; I found a video in Youtube about updating the SSD to 128 GByte and checked the price of such SSD (around 100 Euro). The video as well shows the RAM soldered as 4 chips. But, I think for the purpose (netbook) 2 Gbyte is pretty much enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jOHHyJMgWk I'm still thinking about buying the C720 ... There are offers for 200 Euro. It could really be a replacement for my nearly 8 years old EeePC 900. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 1989-2014: The Wall was torn down so that we go to war together again. El Muro ha sido derribado para que nos unimos en ir a la guerra otra vez. Diese Grenze wurde aufgehoben damit wir gemeinsam wieder in den Krieg ziehen. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 20:51:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34FC28D2; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4FD5386; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l2so16349054wgh.13; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 12:51:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l2FlZw2HN8oBf+9t9ZgsU5ID/3ZWoqG8GgnMILjdYog=; b=TmJwAJ6lDoseCMMDiOrPPVWA1N6FvLmNkBgF5cvkoz1OhBvw/LCZfIvlUo/1jrOv8Q eRqo+QJ7vPufhBHIUSTewEpM5D3X64JiYIoDQ3iyT1ZoDIWZo4U46cixIGJcG3SU3tv7 +HW5k0vD8vAsIbn5w75bwtGMFASfbzbaqPrrZ2E+fGKdNAbVyl+/qeOVqrPOtIBNnq9D WODgSSKQrXhHvOoF4LNnGYMFgXk344cHDeXOps2hQWwo3HM9kPqfnBkIC7EHO6Ky16p6 zY7hXrub0OJdoNkxNsjdx5ddVQm/ZPLHwpf2xOSsQXF7YDbRE57Nf6WFDp3jx0sLIU4Z oWuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.108.9 with SMTP id hg9mr92302180wjb.68.1419713472197; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 12:51:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.195 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2014 12:51:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20141227191143.GA1578@unixarea.DDR.dd> References: <20141227191143.GA1578@unixarea.DDR.dd> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 12:51:12 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DX2X6lsJdGEnWwYUsueE35HoCa4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Acer C710 Chromebook From: Adrian Chadd To: Matthias Apitz , Warren Block , Adrian Chadd , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:51:14 -0000 cool. well, Matthew Dillon / DragonflyBSD project just bought me a C720, so I'll be able to shephard in the patches into -HEAD soon. For the C710, I'd like to figure out how to build a chromeos recovery and boot image that uses the normal way of doing it - however, and here's the kicker - we don't have EFI32 booting support yet. So, until we get that working, we'll be stuck. :( -adrian On 27 December 2014 at 11:11, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Saturday, December 27, 2014 a las 11:52:16AM -0700, Warren Bl= ock escribi=C3=B3: > >> The C710's advantage is that RAM can be added and it takes a normal 2.5 >> SATA device (7mm, but still). >> >> The C720 has a faster processor, but RAM (2G) is soldered in, there are >> no sockets, and the SSD is the newer M.2 form factor. It already has >> SeaBIOS, though. > > Re/ C720: There are detailed information and patches how to install > HEAD on a C720; > > I found a video in Youtube about updating the SSD to 128 GByte and > checked the price of such SSD (around 100 Euro). The video as well shows > the RAM soldered as 4 chips. But, I think for the purpose (netbook) > 2 Gbyte is pretty much enough: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-jOHHyJMgWk > > I'm still thinking about buying the C720 ... There are offers for 200 Eur= o. > It could really be a replacement for my nearly 8 years old EeePC 900. > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 > 1989-2014: The Wall was torn down so that we go to war together again. > El Muro ha sido derribado para que nos unimos en ir a la guerra otra vez. > Diese Grenze wurde aufgehoben damit wir gemeinsam wieder in den Krieg zie= hen.