From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 00:32:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D726BFF for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22e.google.com (mail-ob0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C368395 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id nt9so22558207obb.5 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FKeLQVVaMMZ4SD2QTEkaJE9dl4rLWlqSzE4CkHtKTNY=; b=DaPsm9T3uGaDR3Kvu6dDxOflbkuinnxBkDxzuo8ND6NXRwFcYu8s/KoCg4TDkwSc5j Yx0dp3sgRhT/7bZvtIgV9fW2pxeZTaMG33rXEmQwBbeTdFLpDMHfTQv7dT1VEFyjezMc nfV5Dte1iTDBOCeD2gexN2LC6xRCqG8HPvYlBLUOoS3cQuxUqoSw71uH0OCXtEExnK7m PsBxZauCeGKY/WCMPniUnVBPQckMWCTBuPqAxDFcu65dEaRWSLdJSYs5Bf8JT037X0oO BOaPnH2fwQ9/rfmZ5KL4JSpkSXmFSg/QqwMQzmwMtZE0mv7Qg3liIpSLSoW6vkoDQrBX MybA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.106.17 with SMTP id f17mr19581552oic.130.1418689953565; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.250.19 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Freebsd Ps3 From: Peter Robertson To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:32:34 -0000 Hello All I was directed here by a moderator. I am trying to get Freebsd running on ps3. Apparently that is one of the systems it will run on. I am having trouble getting the kernel to load. I unpacked the livecd iso to a usb and tried to boot from there as most distros of linux will boot from petitboot in that manner. Then I select it and it begins to run and gives me error: Loader cannot load 'kernel'. Any ideas or insights? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 00:56:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 786DDFF5 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EF357FD for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aurora.physics.berkeley.edu (aurora.Physics.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.117.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBG0uVMb011721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:56:31 -0800 Message-ID: <548F833F.9060708@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:56:31 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Robertson , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd Ps3 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVadHpeFp4lM5Tjiakg+Hgc5c48LQGJKDHKupfLAIJX2ewywrO0hfYD0MYFZ0RLidS4+uLRcQuyG/pbNPBw7vmzlbAJxfbeqC7Q= X-Sonic-ID: C;yiPKX76E5BGwe1Zegs/dsg== M;BCAMYL6E5BGwe1Zegs/dsg== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:56:39 -0000 It's designed to boot from a physical CD inserted into the optical drive. You can also netboot with some work, or boot from a hard drive after installing. The easiest is just to burn a CD though. Running FreeBSD on your PS3 may not be that interesting: the initial port was completed within a week of Sony's removal of the OtherOS feature, which removed a lot of the impetus from development. The SPUs are not available, for example, and neither is wireless (wired ethernet works fine). -Nathan On 12/15/14 16:32, Peter Robertson wrote: > Hello All I was directed here by a moderator. I am trying to get Freebsd > running on ps3. Apparently that is one of the systems it will run on. I am > having trouble getting the kernel to load. I unpacked the livecd iso to a > usb and tried to boot from there as most distros of linux will boot from > petitboot in that manner. Then I select it and it begins to run and gives > me error: Loader cannot load 'kernel'. Any ideas or insights? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 17:29:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412C2DB for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 059E11FFE for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so4431414obc.1 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:29:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VthglI7dWeavjCKYC6oJQy6frsZsQ+soa1nuzZPcH0o=; b=Gn33Q9EcAcmzumFd+kwbbnhHGzVVaDz8roQZqwBcyd3bFKKl8Y5V/Gf5s6XZQ3MXMs jB8J1KWNwCIK2xD9c+O1Ne0E49b6hGMkiknpLCSnSSUtYbWqU9yQipHTCuni9FTQFWWy MaHHySy5wg7+Kqh57WY8dHyyCIEkMjBFQAKwjrNe7w7I0njRPH9adHIOmTaF+dWw1pV8 Jqk+2Nb6fTyf/+wBt3QW6qpm2yERm7DIWHai6zWi16pMHD7H9SAflEYbR7kt/GZYNauV kFdkxXRQj32PUnOB4QRwKhsfuEsAtKs2oN0/9wD5AjAGFyxyfiuA3bzpFzd4/DRnT5FB 4NCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.114.74 with SMTP id je10mr2035900oeb.54.1418923746412; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.106.17 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:29:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader From: Britt Dodd To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:29:07 -0000 I'm trying to resurrect my XServe G5 and load FreeBSD 10.1 on it. It gets to the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" part and just hangs after about five seconds. Is this normal, or do I need to reset NVRAM/PRAM or something? 10.0-RC3 does boot fine on the same machine. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 17:45:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D14E477 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 801B32240 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBIHj7Yo006606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:45:08 -0800 Message-ID: <549312A3.7020006@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:45:07 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVZ/oIvM7aZj1An5K0bK3aeCpuh4jVAD9P3sSTWiDy89riRQmFCCOOYyfKbZwzqh9tZRUR4xGY3xhibrSUcHHBzUaUWqKOLUOLg= X-Sonic-ID: C;Jtwhm92G5BGvulG2qJ4NOg== M;lDxxm92G5BGvulG2qJ4NOg== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:45:15 -0000 On 12/18/14 09:29, Britt Dodd wrote: > I'm trying to resurrect my XServe G5 and load FreeBSD 10.1 on it. It gets > to the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" part and just hangs after about > five seconds. Is this normal, or do I need to reset NVRAM/PRAM or > something? 10.0-RC3 does boot fine on the same machine. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > That is not normal, no. Are you booting from the CD? -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 20:36:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B05FA22; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22b.google.com (mail-ob0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C07AB1F3E; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id uz6so5295879obc.2; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:36:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8tfluQ56vCWePCHepRLbPCDw+rfc2wc6AuWB/f9hxeU=; b=OVxaxulUdDEKwOTMyuy1c6mwX4uRzqVZwM16Z4SGims1EZVrMPpHiglMoDPslDTyLd aOnD6uhGp2y5oIvm9hoBhc7WLdW5KQs6ZLFPhBzrpYC3Uq0ixfgCP0g8cdTDC+JAU+F8 KwIKVBmytFErA0SmoJ96gAYDys3AEd1f0AFR0Mo3yBjsgsqbKHXcEG6Qyr8lgPZEvUVh bj7Wc8kQUdEyODo34JjRZvH5tYKNiEmDWiwrXM2SScAhrUHCLCYtYclsaxZKpiIp+6sV wtnRrZ+GQCJ61Oc6TdhOYJ2JwwXEDkPZA11TVXlH28/dXiph1H86U4yJRQuWGfP0miPf WvuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.118.169 with SMTP id kn9mr2503923obb.57.1418934981054; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.106.17 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:36:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <549312A3.7020006@freebsd.org> References: <549312A3.7020006@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader From: Britt Dodd To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:36:22 -0000 Yes --- I'm using disk1 to do this. I'm trying 9.3 now. On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > On 12/18/14 09:29, Britt Dodd wrote: > >> I'm trying to resurrect my XServe G5 and load FreeBSD 10.1 on it. It gets >> to the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" part and just hangs after >> about >> five seconds. Is this normal, or do I need to reset NVRAM/PRAM or >> something? 10.0-RC3 does boot fine on the same machine. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > That is not normal, no. Are you booting from the CD? > -Nathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 20:39:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A04DA84 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com (mail-ob0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5661F6D for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wo20so5222583obc.13 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:39:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qN1Uikw555fNDDFKD8mjxjrTAE0nuULKtOl6RWA4FwU=; b=DsAQmM9nxhz2WcRzQh/3p0FTNIZNplxZp9TChi/DXNqdhcypMqFoeMi7/0Sdh7lmOo ZWr4fkj4dMMued0/f5LSt0crmYgznNie0OqkPr6dUgjVuFXSg1/K2jl9NLiUf2tpaixI HqVm5bOSWYa+z86D12p8tOD0+1Y74Al0u4D8QyI0oXWc7uzv0I5Z9wCW3yVIe/wF0BPf TLIHIxujHHDzuMl4U7ENo5NGQYmnAKWhGIFby5uaVsg00UsB9sjOxhRWmHllswFWls+g Nu8RR2MjHEA+7DVyaU9d5ZzYmvn+7zXSa66Z8g1H1YnRaSlUSwnv0CazkUwGxKIKs3Hm ia3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.199.106 with SMTP id jj10mr2533278obc.27.1418935144583; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.106.17 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:39:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <549312A3.7020006@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader From: Britt Dodd To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:39:05 -0000 9.3 seems to be booting just fine... On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Britt Dodd wrote: > > Yes --- I'm using disk1 to do this. I'm trying 9.3 now. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/18/14 09:29, Britt Dodd wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to resurrect my XServe G5 and load FreeBSD 10.1 on it. It gets >>> to the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" part and just hangs after >>> about >>> five seconds. Is this normal, or do I need to reset NVRAM/PRAM or >>> something? 10.0-RC3 does boot fine on the same machine. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> That is not normal, no. Are you booting from the CD? >> -Nathan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 18 22:34:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDB24FFF for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1A3D123B for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aurora.physics.berkeley.edu (aurora.Physics.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.117.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBIMYDvF014094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:34:13 -0800 Message-ID: <54935665.4060000@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:34:13 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader References: <549312A3.7020006@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVaf6rb5TVomCYgI4G0rtuynzgdR44RhVMAO/0b6rZ1xWrbwMODBDELd02w+jccoHdAES2FPuUKhq5hTgkz8YV4U835TjBdpcVQ= X-Sonic-ID: C;FHHm/QWH5BGpDlG2qJ4NOg== M;+LQT/gWH5BGpDlG2qJ4NOg== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:34:16 -0000 That sounds like something ended up broken on the 10.1 ISOs. Drat. Maybe we can issue an erratum. -Nathan On 12/18/14 12:39, Britt Dodd wrote: > 9.3 seems to be booting just fine... > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Britt Dodd wrote: >> Yes --- I'm using disk1 to do this. I'm trying 9.3 now. >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Nathan Whitehorn >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/18/14 09:29, Britt Dodd wrote: >>> >>>> I'm trying to resurrect my XServe G5 and load FreeBSD 10.1 on it. It gets >>>> to the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" part and just hangs after >>>> about >>>> five seconds. Is this normal, or do I need to reset NVRAM/PRAM or >>>> something? 10.0-RC3 does boot fine on the same machine. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> That is not normal, no. Are you booting from the CD? >>> -Nathan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 02:22:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6548DAD for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-241.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E0AC9A7 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3207 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 02:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 02:15:03 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.7) with SMTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29069 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 02:14:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 02:14:29 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-67-189-19-145.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.189.19.145]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 529C01C43A2; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:15:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Millard Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:15:22 -0800 Message-Id: To: Nathan Whitehorn , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:22:06 -0000 I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report sounds = like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE .iso's burned to = CDs for PowerMac G5's. As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I = bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html = .) I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no XServe = access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My tries do not go = all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, however. As I remember I = started trying in 2014-Apr or so. Eventually I stopped checking each new = 10.0-STABLE but did check some as time went on. From: Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot = problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE = image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really = perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, = since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to = get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! -Nathan On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: To make clear about the "/" in the line: and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It = always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is = from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from = /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the = visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the line = that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel The original messages were: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though = /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. = Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is = about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation = (assuming it is the same problem in both places). I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = CD? A multi-processor one? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 02:29:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2579E83; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EF8FA49; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id vb8so10021271obc.0; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=08Yffmpxp72qSsCG/YOciVWi0m92d381M6QpI1tgHoc=; b=BERmBSgDoPgIt/Qz7B9rI9G4lXp120hoI7WXcbYt30kRwBvotJJFZtRYLenGq9o2hz QIj1C0lOKDd3AqmnT8CklEfTHloHk0GDsduudVZFV8FqzmX3kbYD25sUX6NP89+58RD0 KpIUm4W1+2LBMWG72BZesDzT2Uu79dNFZD9RsH6MQmISK8vLGGLybUafsd2xij0uSIId cfAEXdjdNPzPHL7R0gFuDfLct2vrJlh+eLrfknWwt9zqU/CGw/hFxMzDdadMMNGJ+gDe ot8FGF/lTJqFORCCt6YgwGvBcPDl9xX/PBnDc9wWxN4cdypLn4Oh19LRWrgd3s7g3lso ICig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.46.168 with SMTP id w8mr3370164obm.56.1418956182866; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.75.74 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.75.74 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:29:42 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Bill Sorenson To: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:29:43 -0000 I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so no idea if it makes sense. -Bill S. On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" wrote: > I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report sounds > like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE .iso's burned to > CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > .) > > I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no XServe > access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My tries do not go all > the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, however. As I remember I > started trying in 2014-Apr or so. Eventually I stopped checking each new > 10.0-STABLE but did check some as time went on. > > > From: Nathan Whitehorn > Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot > problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE > image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really > perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, since > loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to get it > fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! > -Nathan > > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans then > gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It always > stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is from the > repeating sequence or is the leading / from /boot/kernel/kernel. At this > point I'm limited to reporting just the visual result, not the internal > stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's > (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier to > understand): > > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans then > gradually spin up. > > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the line > that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though > /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. And, > unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will not be > doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. > Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is > about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other > kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation > (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place > whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a > CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried > emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz > files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were reported > in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot hangs > very early in the process > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to > CD? A multi-processor one? > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 02:58:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39DAC2E1 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-241.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E51DCDFA for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32000 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 02:58:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 02:58:35 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-01.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.7) with SMTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25541 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 02:58:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 02:58:01 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-67-189-19-145.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.189.19.145]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 177001C4052; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:58:50 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:58:55 -0800 Message-Id: References: To: Bill Sorenson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 02:58:59 -0000 Also for my non-XServe context: buildworld, kernel, installworld from = source always worked for every 10.x-STABLE that I tried it with (up to = known, intermittent boot-time issues on PowerMac G5s). 10.1-RELEASE too. = (I've not tried 10.1-STABLE yet.) The same for using the .txz files and = MANIFEST file with "bsdinstall auto" to create media from an already = working FreeBSD powerpc64 context. (I've updated a couple of different ways: using the .txz files and = MANIFEST file with "bsdinstall auto" vs. svn based. I normally use svn = based these days both both were reliable whenever I've tried them.) But to get powerpc64 started I used 10.0-RELEASE's .iso as I remember. = After that for .iso's I just was checking if the .iso status had = changed. (Summarizing much history: It was my first FreeBSD use.) The powerpc (non-64) .iso's work fine in the same PowerMac G5s but I = wanted to allow the G5's to use the extra memory that was in place. (But = that extra memory may be tied to the powerpc64's intermittent boot-time = issues for PowerMac G5s. I've never tried <=3D 4GB but others have = reported the extra memory as required to see the intermittent boot = problems.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Bill Sorenson = wrote: I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an = XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. = Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've = been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the = release process so no idea if it makes sense.=20 -Bill S. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 06:04:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E0E694A for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1DBD2BF2 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBJ64bYo029211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:04:38 -0800 Message-ID: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:04:37 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Sorenson , Mark Millard Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] References: In-Reply-To: X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVatI7O+61KgQaOvu4ZvzhsYNFU8kPby90ruwWeMamQcwGTkn5QTbVNxRRBZyzoX2ixtFGgv5+R3VOvI16GFgtOL0lXG6wkF8SU= X-Sonic-ID: C;GE/F6USH5BGJrFG2qJ4NOg== M;7GYG6kSH5BGJrFG2qJ4NOg== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:44 -0000 I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? -Nathan On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > > I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. > Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although > I've been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the > release process so no idea if it makes sense. > > -Bill S. > > On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" > wrote: > > I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > .) > > I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > some as time went on. > > > From: Nathan Whitehorn > > Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > To: Mark Millard >, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > reminder! > -Nathan > > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > fans then gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > are easier to understand): > > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > fans then gradually spin up. > > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > try once I get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > boot hangs very early in the process > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 11:44:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA379CF7 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-241.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FBB72604 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24618 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 11:43:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rtc-sm-01.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.150.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 11:43:47 -0000 Received: by rtc-sm-01.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.7) with SMTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27127 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 11:44:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 11:44:10 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-67-189-19-145.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.189.19.145]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A71FB1C4052; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:44:07 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 03:44:07 -0800 Message-Id: <45D86DAF-F1EC-43DF-A189-E5CC02240762@dsl-only.net> References: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:44:12 -0000 Per your request I downloaded an example memstick.img (I picked = FreeBSD-10.1-STABLE-powerpc-powerpc64-20141207-r275566-memstick.img) and = dd'd it to a usb stick. Using that stick plugged in the front of a 16 = GByte RAM PowerMac G5 and booting with the openfirmware command boot ud:2,\ppc\bootinfo.txt does not hang where the CD boots do: it always gets well past that and = clears the screen after the openfirmware stage/display is done. I have successfully booted all the way with that. But I've also had the classic intermittent boot-time panics/hangs. (A = basic message about the issue was produced each time, unlike the silent = early-hangs I've gotten in the past.) Of course even these failures to complete the boot are evidence for your = ISO9660 expectation likely being right: It is a different, later problem = when it panics/hangs later in the boot. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the = ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you = check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? -Nathan On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an = XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. = Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've = been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the = release process so no idea if it makes sense. >=20 > -Bill S. >=20 > On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" = wrote: > I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report = sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE .iso's = burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. >=20 > As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I = bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html = .) >=20 > I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no = XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My tries do = not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, however. As I = remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. Eventually I stopped = checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check some as time went on. >=20 >=20 > From: Nathan Whitehorn > Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD = boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc at freebsd.org >=20 > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a = 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What = really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are = identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. = I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! > -Nathan >=20 > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 > To make clear about the "/" in the line: >=20 > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >=20 > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It = always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is = from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from = /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the = visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard = wrote: > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): >=20 > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >=20 > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >=20 > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >=20 > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the = line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel >=20 > The original messages were: >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html >=20 > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even = though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. >=20 >=20 >=20 > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. >=20 > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE = worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late = April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. >=20 > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard = wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to = emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). >=20 > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. >=20 > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. >=20 > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) >=20 > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process >=20 > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned = to CD? A multi-processor one? >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc at freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe at = freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 15:59:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7896657 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com (mail-pa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0C6E12DF for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kq14so1444215pab.6 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:59:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=mNnrHUcxa3dhSwTpeVFaMi/w8H3DcuopWekGX9FWFls=; b=y4iC+FBuMEwVqA0Cz58wi8KWK1/AhbB+VitRFgfM9TL5mT76rSRVu6PiRp76hNqTFW R0vK1qg+xyC9Kk3mW3IQZenK+Qawpe6QK/yRhBvoZjjFcQfOhjS7BLNuffKSMoH8K3Xi s2VRse9GhsNiZuWpdHlPcX3uOtgYCfwWACUg8ktOZFDDOXQ/CTd4+qF7OxrP5+ef8uc9 8iLO+qo6w6qVmkqOkOfqZ/pcWy8xxHt0nPSz43d9kPY464AkbGCpTKuVA0y7dfgyH53x +38X1Y0VWGciXGQxTRwoMmX90/VrF6usPIFnj1dbqBDX7RaTJ2RQ/3hRbpPytdWarmDR 1+vA== X-Received: by 10.70.43.209 with SMTP id y17mr13611384pdl.2.1419004774282; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [100.117.56.53] ([184.151.118.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hc10sm9921023pbd.78.2014.12.19.07.59.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:59:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] References: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> From: Rob Ballantyne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12B435) In-Reply-To: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> Message-Id: <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:59:33 -0800 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:59:35 -0000 I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note that I= only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot properly. Rob B. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wr= ote: >=20 > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the IS= O9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you check i= f the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > -Nathan >=20 >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: >>=20 >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an XServe= G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem appear= s specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong before.= I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so no idea i= f it makes sense. >>=20 >> -Bill S. >>=20 >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" > wrote: >>=20 >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. >>=20 >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.h= tml >> .) >>=20 >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check >> some as time went on. >>=20 >>=20 >> From: Nathan Whitehorn > > >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT >> To: Mark Millard > >, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org >> >>=20 >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and >> reminder! >> -Nathan >>=20 >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: >>=20 >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >> fans then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > > wrote: >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes >> are easier to understand): >>=20 >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >>=20 >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >> fans then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel >>=20 >> The original messages were: >>=20 >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html >> and >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html >>=20 >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can >> try once I get back. >>=20 >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. >>=20 >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > > wrote: >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). >>=20 >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. >>=20 >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. >>=20 >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) >>=20 >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) >> boot hangs very early in the process >>=20 >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 16:39:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10C45CA4 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22e.google.com (mail-ob0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C153B18F1 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id nt9so14697189obb.5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:39:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lnJKEy7wFv4nQHYgQAKIFUvkdaHLZnnIeh/uzB8QBdQ=; b=uWmO3OLrpp/r7zYw/n8kHjCEfQ89gYcWHONxzE3I7suF1F4rxZTuG6kpuKviEZyqLg 2zH6bKgDDNOh9C5nKsJIMma1w+tHI8lsxFnIYZra0L7l+3CbUJdroxGla+XAY7tgtufK ESUjTht2PQ7vv3vqzNQ1scQpc9+75uPofZbbcS+MPH5jFH3EHJJ8Hnwz75IZ0I1GvnGo y3ZYTpnYP52HNSp0CcO5TADWOj+JSC9M8CC9VjaeC3E6Xw2PngdksUS+4Gf2rkoznvNJ KS3oTUUwIjKoRdZyEGGpxuFMc6THbzoUHDJ4ZwOuYYvG7btapfCYCfeBW+nXhBgAsz/s XKZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.103.115 with SMTP id fv19mr5339188oeb.46.1419007191197; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.106.17 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:39:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> References: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Britt Dodd To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:39:52 -0000 Oh nice! How'd you get the G5 to boot the memstick image? I wasn't aware that OF would boot non Mac-OS memory sticks... On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Rob Ballantyne wrote: > I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note > that I only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot > properly. > > Rob B. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: > > > > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the > ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you > check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > > -Nathan > > > >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > >> > >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. Problem > appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been wrong > before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so > no idea if it makes sense. > >> > >> -Bill S. > >> > >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > >> > >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > >> > >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > >> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > >> .) > >> > >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > >> some as time went on. > >> > >> > >> From: Nathan Whitehorn >> > > >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > >> To: Mark Millard >> >, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > >> > >> > >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > >> reminder! > >> -Nathan > >> > >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > >> > >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: > >> > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > >> fans then gradually spin up. > >> > >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > >> > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard >> > wrote: > >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > >> are easier to understand): > >> > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > >> > >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > >> > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > >> fans then gradually spin up. > >> > >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > >> > >> The original messages were: > >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > >> and > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > >> > >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > >> > >> > >> > >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > >> try once I get back. > >> > >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > >> > >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > >> > >> > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > >> > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard >> > wrote: > >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > >> > >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > >> > >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > >> > >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > >> > >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > >> boot hangs very early in the process > >> > >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> === > >> Mark Millard > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing > list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> " > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 17:02:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CBAC2A9 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x230.google.com (mail-qg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D23521F74 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f51so914464qge.35 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:02:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NCMU+y3tsAMHGVyeDGYZTyTnS19YJwVSi3VO5KMUioo=; b=Yxh2rgoRbSLJTLJelDTXFG5zadbF29/+vdvv5K4pNmOsfd2fj/qWUvqNQJGipMB3z1 DLkoIGoaV2q2lM8gASXcPIPL9TNquK6OCDhCgYrDKGz8srQAN7gLdK/88GGSYk89ZP5M xP3Tb6Se7DoEktBuRm3V3FlcV1pos8VGR3FeSUgxQB3Ex5JBaLVK+C3CcZv41cEF/ymH 8/3cDmg2QvPT83GxMYitn2cCdUFVwbFLJCpGwfQunQNLSCP1IbiiRX4vguURGwrSDBVS UfTdM6coHPM2MqsnhR/s33AqKDpmhv/MrM5dx3OrZnONVe4I2w9GdlbSxf4oys1Xkm7R Wdhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.122.131 with SMTP id l3mr15903868qar.10.1419008526629; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.25.169 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:02:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:02:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] From: Rob Ballantyne To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:02:08 -0000 I don't recall the specifics but I think that I found a USB filesystem devalias and after a couple of attempts managed to get the right boot string. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Britt Dodd wrote: > > Oh nice! How'd you get the G5 to boot the memstick image? I wasn't aware > that OF would boot non Mac-OS memory sticks... > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Rob Ballantyne > > wrote: > > > I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note > > that I only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot > > properly. > > > > Rob B. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > > > wrote: > > > > > > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the > > ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you > > check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > > > -Nathan > > > > > >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > > >> > > >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. > Problem > > appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been > wrong > > before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so > > no idea if it makes sense. > > >> > > >> -Bill S. > > >> > > >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" > markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > > >> > > >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > > >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > > >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > >> > > >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > > >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > > >> > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > > >> .) > > >> > > >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > > >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > > >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > > >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > > >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > > >> some as time went on. > > >> > > >> > > >> From: Nathan Whitehorn > >> > > > >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > > >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > > >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > > >> To: Mark Millard > >> >, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > >> > > >> > > >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > > >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > > >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > > >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > > >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > > >> reminder! > > >> -Nathan > > >> > > >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > >> > > >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > >> > > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > > >> fans then gradually spin up. > > >> > > >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > > >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > > >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > > >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > > >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > > >> > > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > >> > wrote: > > >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > > >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > > >> are easier to understand): > > >> > > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > >> > > >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > >> > > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > > >> fans then gradually spin up. > > >> > > >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > > >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > >> > > >> The original messages were: > > >> > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > > >> and > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > >> > > >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > > >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > > >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > > >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > > >> try once I get back. > > >> > > >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > > >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > > >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > >> > > >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > > >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > > >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > > >> > > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > >> > wrote: > > >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > > >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > >> > > >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > > >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > > >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > > >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > >> > > >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > > >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > > >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > >> > > >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > > >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > >> > > >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > > >> boot hangs very early in the process > > >> > > >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > > >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing > > list > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > >> " > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 21:00:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB350D47 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-241.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A52AF2C2E for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27677 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 21:00:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 21:00:14 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.7) with SMTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20655 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 21:00:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 19 Dec 2014 21:00:13 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.1.8] (c-67-189-19-145.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.189.19.145]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D24C81C4052; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Millard Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [USB stick booting a PowerMac G5] Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:00:35 -0800 Message-Id: <82907CD9-FF12-4D98-BD46-3F5B017B4638@dsl-only.net> To: brittman914@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:41 -0000 I'm not sure which stage(s) you are after: Produce a usb memstick or = just booting it after you have it. Also this is/was for a PowerMac G5 = ("quad"), not for a XServe. (I've never had my hands on an XServe.) A) Producing the memstick... Given the variety of possibilities for producing the stick, = possibilities not limited to using the Powermac/XServer context, I'll = just report for that: = https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/announce.html lists for unix-like = contexts something similar to... sudo dd = if=3DFreeBSD-10.1-STABLE-powerpc-powerpc64-20141207-r275566-memstick.img = \ of=3D/dev/ bs=3D10240 conv=3Dsync where you need to figure out the based on the context = you are working in and you might use a different .img file. (I used = Modern Mac OS X to produce mine.) You might not need sudo but I did. You = would first need to dismount any existing, already-mounted file systems = from that stick (if any). The above puts down everything in the proper = formats, including the partitioning: a very low level complete = overwrite. Typos in can be a disaster: be careful. B) Booting from the memstick... Booting into openfirmware (using command-option-O-F) with the updated = stick already plugged in the front automatically bound ud: to the stick = appropriately. (No other USB sticks plugged in so it was the only USB = disk.) The openfirmware command dir ud:2,\ppc (I think it was) would list the bootinfo.txt file that I reference below = if ud: was bound automatically. (The 2 picks out the slice/partition to = find the ppc folder/directory in.) At the prompt I then used: boot ud:2,\ppc\bootinfo.txt =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 20 01:43:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 99938B33; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:43:58 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Rob Ballantyne Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Message-ID: <20141220014358.GB57356@FreeBSD.org> References: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:43:58 -0000 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 09:02:06AM -0800, Rob Ballantyne wrote: > I don't recall the specifics but I think that I found a USB filesystem > devalias and after a couple of attempts managed to get the right boot > string. This useful finding will surely fit nicely for wiki.freebsd.org/powerpc, it needs some love as of right now. :) ./danfe