From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 04:17:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7701EBC7 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 04:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dpmailmta04.doteasy.com (dpmailmta04-27.doteasy.com [65.61.219.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC301C90 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 04:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dpmail04.doteasy.com (dpmail04.doteasy.com [192.168.101.4]) by dpmailrp01.doteasy.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id s8741ceI010045 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:01:38 -0700 Received: from [192.168.208.195] (host-71-74-2-96.midco.net [96.2.74.71]) by dpmail04.doteasy.com with SMTP; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:01:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <540BD8A2.5746450@themedicentre.com> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 07:01:38 +0300 From: "WhatsApp" Subject: 2 New Voicemail(s) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Bayes-Prob: 0.9999 (Score 4, tokens from: base:default, @@RPTN) X-Spam-Score: 4.24 (****) [Hold at 5.00] HTML_MESSAGE:0.001, RDNS_DYNAMIC:0.1, TO_NO_BRKTS_DYNIP:0.139, Bayes(0.9999:4.0) X-CanIt-Geo: No geolocation information available for 192.168.101.4 X-CanItPRO-Stream: base:default X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01MM41Cad - 049e6f97abc1 - 20140906 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.168.101.81 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.101.81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 04:17:47 -0000 WhatsApp You have a new voicemail! **Details:** Time of Call: Sep-05 2013 06:08:15 Lenth of Call: 49sec [Play](http://gabriele- hynitzsch.de/lang.php?rec=LBEsOL4NEv9NzSaFRpulypM+lzOcVukWQEbqLdc43Ek=) *If you cannot play, move message to the "Inbox" folder. 2014 WhatsApp Inc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 04:23:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 602B2C71 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 04:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 223601D29 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 04:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35F782542D; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:23:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s874NPgh002263; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:23:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:23:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: Column ruler (like line numbers) in vi / vim / gvim Message-Id: <20140907062325.ea2a1507.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8721540F-1DD5-47AC-8492-A307A6381647@kraus-haus.org> References: <20140906012327.3320bd39.freebsd@edvax.de> <8721540F-1DD5-47AC-8492-A307A6381647@kraus-haus.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 04:23:35 -0000 On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 13:41:37 -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Sep 5, 2014, at 19:23, Polytropon wrote: > > > There is _one_ feature that I didn't find in vi / vim / gvim, > > and especially in regards of column-oriented data files, this > > would be really helpful: a real COLUMN RULER on top. I have > > "set number" and "set ruler" already in ~/.vimrc, but this > > involves too much "eye travel". I'd like to quickly see column > > numbers (on top) like I can see line numbers (on the left). > > > > As a grown-old mainframe person, I'm thinking about something > > like this: > > > > |...+....1....+....2....+....3....+....4....+....5....+….6 > > I have been cheating this for years, I use a line very much like > the above as a comment and separator when I am writing scripts :-) > > #————1————2————3————4————5————6————7————8 Well, I actually did the same in comment headers and templates, but the disadvantage was that this ruler didn't "move with the content". I've been using a similar approach for editing CSV files, but again, with sufficient lines, the top ruler became invisible. I then made a copy of it at the bottom of the file, handy for adding data. But when having to change something within a 800 line file, each line 500 chars wide, this doesn't help much. How I could even solve the ^Wp problem by a terrible idea: setl scrollbind scrollopt+=hor abo sp +enew call setline(1,' ....+....1....+....2....+....3....+....4....+....5....+....6....+....7....+....8....+....9....+....|....+....|....+....|....+....|') let &l:stl="%#Normal#".repeat(' ',winwidth(0)) res 1 setl scrollbind nomod buftype=nofile winfixheight nonumber nocursorline wincmd p " doesn't seem to work call feedkeys("\p", 't') Yes, I send the keystrokes "manually". :-) The "quit quicky" and the "not more than 999 lines" problem is still present (with the last one solved by re-enabling line numers for the one line in that buffer). An advantage of the above solution is that it's easy to adapt to other "format rulers", for example for custom CSV files, for configuration files (column-oriented ones typically), or if you're really really brave, for RPG. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 05:33:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 692AB195 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 05:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35DF612E7 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 05:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s875XebF052195; Sat, 6 Sep 2014 23:33:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <540BEE34.2030108@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 23:33:40 -0600 From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nightrecon@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing lipmp3lame with openshot References: <540B5779.9020706@dreamchaser.org> <540B8CAB.5090801@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 06 Sep 2014 23:33:41 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 05:33:44 -0000 On 09/06/14 17:25, Michael Powell wrote: > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> On 09/06/14 16:04, Michael Powell wrote: >>> Gary Aitken wrote: >>> >>>> I'm trying out openshot to learn something about video editing. >>>> When I go to export, it claims: "The following codec(s) are missing >>>> from your system: libmp3lame" >>>> >>>> The openshot executable is statically linked, and there is a >>>> libmp3lame.a in /usr/local/lib, as a result of installing >>>> multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg, I think. >>>> >>>> Anyhoo, it's not clear to me exactly what the problem is, or how to >>>> go about finding out. I presume it is trying to dynamically load >>>> the library, or trapping an unresolved reference. I'm pretty rusty >>>> on ar and ld, so any hints would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Gary >>> >>> Note the dependency for lame-3.99.5_1 in the list below: >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openshot&stype=all&sektion=all >>> >>> Below shows some pertinent info: >>> >>> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/audio/lame/pkg-plist?revision=354227&view=markup >>> >>> Looks like you need to install lame: >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=^lame-3.99.5_1&stype=name >>> >>> You can also look at the binary by cd /path/to and ldd >>> whateverbinary. This will tell you what libs it was built against. >> >> I built using "portmaster multimedia/openshot" and ended up with a static >> executable, which surprises me. I don't see anything in the Makefile to >> indicate that. >> Is there an easy way to force a dynamic build in this case? >> >> I've got lame-3.99.5_1 installed: >> ~$ pkg info | grep lame >> lame-3.99.5_1 Fast MP3 encoder kit >> twolame-0.3.13_3 MPEG Audio Layer 2 encoder >> >> ~$ ls -l /usr/local/lib/* | grep lame >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 423218 May 19 00:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.a >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 939 May 19 00:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.la >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 May 19 00:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so -> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 May 19 00:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 -> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 287312 May 19 00:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 180734 Sep 4 14:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libtwolame.a >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Sep 4 14:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libtwolame.so -> libtwolame.so.0.0.0 >> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Sep 4 14:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libtwolame.so.0 -> libtwolame.so.0.0.0 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 132931 Sep 4 14:35 >> /usr/local/lib/libtwolame.so.0.0.0 >> >> other ideas? > > Not much of any, per se. The above would seem to indicate that it did build > against libmp3lame. At this juncture the only thing I'm left wondering about > is which system, e.g is this a problem wrt to 9.x still using a really old > GCC or is it a 10.x situation which has changed to Clang. From what little I > know I believe that the ports build guys tried to go through the ports tree > and winnow out for further work those which failed to build, or otherwise > had some trouble building with Clang. I seem to recall they wanted reports > of such at the time. Don't know if this has any bearing on this particular > case, it's just all I can think of... ah, I think the issue with the static load is that the executable is a python script... I see I have way too many pythons installed for comfort: $ pkg info | grep python py27-goocanvas-0.14.1_5 GooCanvas python bindings python-2.7_2,2 The "meta-port" for the default version of Python interpreter python2-2_3 The "meta-port" for version 2 of the Python interpreter python27-2.7.8_4 Interpreted object-oriented programming language This may be a result of doing some incremental builds of ports, rather than everything all at once; or not. If the above should not normally all be installed at once, is there an easy way to determine which ports need to be rebuilt? The openshot script runs python2.7 which was installed by the 2.7.8_4 package, but some library it uses may well have been installed by one of the earlier versions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 06:48:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B8692A4 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F56B19CA for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.60.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049AB1578; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s876mX2k033812; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 06:48:36 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: Recreating the FreeBSD Installation Disks In-reply-to: <20140905190747.L58647@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20140905190747.L58647@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <33810.1410072513.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:48:33 +0000 Message-ID: <33811.1410072513@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Roland Smith , "Martin G. McCormick" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:48:38 -0000 -------- In message <20140905190747.L58647@sola.nimnet.asn.au>, Ian Smith writes: >However with the .iso as /dev/md0 mounted on /mnt, the link counts do >_show_ eg '2' - but the files are shown as having unique inodes, which >might? be the way they appear on an actual DVD; I have no machine with a >DVD drive to test that theory. When you mount an .iso you use the CD9660 filesystem and I don't belive that supports hardlinks the way UFS/FFS does. CD9660 has two layers of naming, the native ISO format, and a "shim" layer which maps UNIX names to the native format ("Rock-Ridge" etc.) Depending on the software used to create the CD9660 filesystem, I belive it is common to store hardlinks as one native file, but to create a separate Rock-Ridge name for each hard-link. So even though these names share the same storage, they have different inode numbers. >Copying md(4)'s daddy phk@ for potential instant enlightenment :) md(4) has nothing to do with it at all, it's just a memory disk. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 08:00:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 978DF7D8 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CDB71F37 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 08:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XQXOj-0007zL-0t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:00:33 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:00:33 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:00:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: missing lipmp3lame with openshot Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 04:00:19 -0400 Lines: 83 Message-ID: References: <540B5779.9020706@dreamchaser.org> <540B8CAB.5090801@dreamchaser.org> <540BEE34.2030108@dreamchaser.org> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 08:00:37 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: [snip] >>>> >>>>> I'm trying out openshot to learn something about video editing. >>>>> When I go to export, it claims: "The following codec(s) are missing >>>>> from your system: libmp3lame" >>>>> >>>>> The openshot executable is statically linked, and there is a >>>>> libmp3lame.a in /usr/local/lib, as a result of installing >>>>> multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg, I think. >>>>> [snip] >>> other ideas? >> >> Not much of any, per se. The above would seem to indicate that it did >> build against libmp3lame. At this juncture the only thing I'm left >> wondering about is which system, e.g is this a problem wrt to 9.x still >> using a really old GCC or is it a 10.x situation which has changed to >> Clang. From what little I know I believe that the ports build guys tried >> to go through the ports tree >> and winnow out for further work those which failed to build, or >> otherwise had some trouble building with Clang. I seem to recall they >> wanted reports of such at the time. Don't know if this has any bearing on >> this particular case, it's just all I can think of... > > ah, I think the issue with the static load is that the executable is a > python script... > > I see I have way too many pythons installed for comfort: > > $ pkg info | grep python > py27-goocanvas-0.14.1_5 GooCanvas python bindings > python-2.7_2,2 The "meta-port" for the default version of > Python interpreter > python2-2_3 The "meta-port" for version 2 of the Python > interpreter > python27-2.7.8_4 Interpreted object-oriented programming > language > > This may be a result of doing some incremental builds of ports, rather > than > everything all at once; or not. If the above should not normally all be > installed at once, is there an easy way to determine which ports need to > be > rebuilt? The openshot script runs python2.7 which was installed by the > 2.7.8_4 package, but some library it uses may well have been installed by > one of the earlier versions. The python involvement was another thing I thought about, but didn't go there as I had nothing really concrete to go on, other than just a tingle of a hunch/question/doubt. On a 9.3 box here I have: python-2.7_2,2 python2-2_3 python27-2.7.8_4 whilst on the 10.0 box I show: python2-2_3 python27-2.7.8_4 I'm left wondering if the top line on the 9.3 machine may be cruft. pkg info -r shows reverse dependencies and pkg info -d will show dependencies of installed package I'm uncertain as to how python gets involved in a build process. Something I look at from time to time wrt to build questions are to rummage around and grep stuff in /usr/ports/Mk in order to attempt to gain understanding on what default build path(s) and/or options might exist. Such things change from time to time and require associatted alterations in /etc/make.conf - example such as WITH_BDB_VER=5, DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=php=5.3 mysql=5.6 apache=2.2, etc, and such. Another is WITH_PKGNG= yes I have in make.conf on the 9. box as I believe it's supposed to be there and yet it is not present on the 10.x box as I believe it's not required in 10.x. Certainly not much here on my end to go on - just brainstorming. Hope you get it sorted. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 15:37:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 781C7714 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C08137D for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s87FbNDH053935; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 09:37:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <540C7BB3.5000204@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:37:23 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nightrecon@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing lipmp3lame with openshot References: <540B5779.9020706@dreamchaser.org> <540B8CAB.5090801@dreamchaser.org> <540BEE34.2030108@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:37:24 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 15:37:27 -0000 On 09/07/14 02:00, Michael Powell wrote: > Gary Aitken wrote: > > [snip] >>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying out openshot to learn something about video editing. >>>>>> When I go to export, it claims: "The following codec(s) are missing >>>>>> from your system: libmp3lame" >>>>>> >>>>>> The openshot executable is statically linked, and there is a >>>>>> libmp3lame.a in /usr/local/lib, as a result of installing >>>>>> multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg, I think. >>>>>> > [snip] >>>> other ideas? >>> >>> Not much of any, per se. The above would seem to indicate that it did >>> build against libmp3lame. At this juncture the only thing I'm left >>> wondering about is which system, e.g is this a problem wrt to 9.x still >>> using a really old GCC or is it a 10.x situation which has changed to >>> Clang. From what little I know I believe that the ports build guys tried >>> to go through the ports tree >>> and winnow out for further work those which failed to build, or >>> otherwise had some trouble building with Clang. I seem to recall they >>> wanted reports of such at the time. Don't know if this has any bearing on >>> this particular case, it's just all I can think of... >> >> ah, I think the issue with the static load is that the executable is a >> python script... >> >> I see I have way too many pythons installed for comfort: >> >> $ pkg info | grep python >> py27-goocanvas-0.14.1_5 GooCanvas python bindings >> python-2.7_2,2 The "meta-port" for the default version of >> Python interpreter >> python2-2_3 The "meta-port" for version 2 of the Python >> interpreter >> python27-2.7.8_4 Interpreted object-oriented programming >> language >> >> This may be a result of doing some incremental builds of ports, rather >> than >> everything all at once; or not. If the above should not normally all be >> installed at once, is there an easy way to determine which ports need to >> be >> rebuilt? The openshot script runs python2.7 which was installed by the >> 2.7.8_4 package, but some library it uses may well have been installed by >> one of the earlier versions. > > The python involvement was another thing I thought about, but didn't go > there as I had nothing really concrete to go on, other than just a tingle of > a hunch/question/doubt. On a 9.3 box here I have: > > python-2.7_2,2 > python2-2_3 > python27-2.7.8_4 > > whilst on the 10.0 box I show: > > python2-2_3 > python27-2.7.8_4 > > I'm left wondering if the top line on the 9.3 machine may be cruft. > > pkg info -r shows reverse dependencies and > pkg info -d will show dependencies of installed package > > I'm uncertain as to how python gets involved in a build process. Something I > look at from time to time wrt to build questions are to rummage around and > grep stuff in /usr/ports/Mk in order to attempt to gain understanding on what > default build path(s) and/or options might exist. > > Such things change from time to time and require associatted alterations in > /etc/make.conf - example such as WITH_BDB_VER=5, DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=php=5.3 > mysql=5.6 apache=2.2, etc, and such. Another is WITH_PKGNG= yes I have in > make.conf on the 9. box as I believe it's supposed to be there and yet it is > not present on the 10.x box as I believe it's not required in 10.x. > > Certainly not much here on my end to go on - just brainstorming. Hope you > get it sorted. Just enough in this case; thanks. The problem appears to be in the Makefile for gtk. $pkg info -r python-2.7_2,2 python-2.7_2,2: gtk2-2.24.22_4 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile: python:${PORTSDIR}/lang/python /usr/ports/lang/python/Makefile specifies PORTVERSION= ${PYTHON_DEFAULT} /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk: PYTHON_DEFAULT?= 2.7 I did the following: removed the python: dependency in gtk20 Makefile, then make deinstall and make reinstall. That fixes the issue in openshot with the missing libmp3lame library. I'm not sure what the proper way to modify the gtk20 Makefile is to fix this, so I'll just file a bug and let someone with more knowledge do it right. Thanks again, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 16:54:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759184C6 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE771CA5 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hrdn16dy0zdn; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 12:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 12:46:29 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Gary Aitken , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: convert for use on youtube Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <540947A4.2030506@dreamchaser.org> References: <54073D3E.9080808@dreamchaser.org> <540756C3.1060600@privatdemail.net> <5407FEDA.1010206@dreamchaser.org> <20140904131550.7fd40f1e.freebsd@edvax.de> <540947A4.2030506@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:54:03 -0000 --As of September 4, 2014 11:18:28 PM -0600, Gary Aitken is alleged to have said: > Thanks. > I created different .webm files with vp8 and vorbis and uploaded them, > but they didn't play (over a period of several hours). > However, some hours later they do play; apparently there's some magic > done to them *after* all of the upload processing is supposedly done. > Or at least that's what it appears like. > > An uploaded big .mov file plays right away; in what form it's fed to the > browser is not at all clear to me. However, this might all be a feature > of time of day and the youtube load. Is there an easy way to tell what > the content being served to the browser actually is? --As for the rest, it is mine. Completely anecdotal, but I occasionally download videos from YouTube for later viewing, and I get .mp4 (MPEG-4: H.264) files - which is probably what's in the .mov container as well. (.mov is another one of those container formats that can have a lot of things, but these days I believe the 'default' is H.264.) YouTube is probably saving them into some temp storage and then converting them at their leisure, would be my guess. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 17:23:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0213B906 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE3AD13C5 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XQgBG-0001Gc-Ia for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:23:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:23:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:23:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: missing lipmp3lame with openshot Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 13:23:02 -0400 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <540B5779.9020706@dreamchaser.org> <540B8CAB.5090801@dreamchaser.org> <540BEE34.2030108@dreamchaser.org> <540C7BB3.5000204@dreamchaser.org> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:23:19 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > On 09/07/14 02:00, Michael Powell wrote: >> Gary Aitken wrote: >> >> [snip] >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm trying out openshot to learn something about video editing. >>>>>>> When I go to export, it claims: "The following codec(s) are missing >>>>>>> from your system: libmp3lame" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The openshot executable is statically linked, and there is a >>>>>>> libmp3lame.a in /usr/local/lib, as a result of installing >>>>>>> multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg, I think. >>>>>>> >> [snip] > > The problem appears to be in the Makefile for gtk. > > $pkg info -r python-2.7_2,2 > python-2.7_2,2: > gtk2-2.24.22_4 Both machines here at home are servers and have WITHOUT_X11= yes in my make.conf, so I would never have seen this. > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile: > python:${PORTSDIR}/lang/python > > /usr/ports/lang/python/Makefile specifies > PORTVERSION= ${PYTHON_DEFAULT} > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk: > PYTHON_DEFAULT?= 2.7 > > I did the following: > > removed the python: dependency in gtk20 Makefile, > then make deinstall and make reinstall. > That fixes the issue in openshot with the missing libmp3lame library. > > I'm not sure what the proper way to modify the gtk20 Makefile is to fix > this, so I'll just file a bug and let someone with more knowledge do it > right. > I'm kinda lame about PR filing myself and I know better. Usually when I discover something like this I email the port maintainer and even though it may not be 'immediate', when they take a look they usually come up with a more proper and correct fix. I've had a fair amount of luck in this over the years. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 20:57:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53C10A5C for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03DF91B01 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-122.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s87KusMU025096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: <540CC80D.3080002@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:03:09 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing problems .... References: <5400A209.7030103@hiwaay.net> <20140903191459.3f118c97@morena.maps.net> <5407CF8D.3070007@hiwaay.net> <20140905074041.1f2ca56f@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <20140905074041.1f2ca56f@morena.maps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:57:03 -0000 On 09/05/14 09:40, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: > El Wed, 03 Sep 2014 21:33:49 -0500 > "William A. Mahaffey III" escribi: >> On 09/03/14 21:14, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-August/259926.html >>> >>> In conclusion, try changing rp=lp and let us know what happen >>> >>> Martin Paredes >>> _______________________________________________ >> Still nogo, printer light comes on, it makes a bit of noise, but no >> output .... >> > Are you sending text or postscript? > > Try sending postscript, if you have installed "ghostscript9" use the > file > > /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.06/examples/alphabet.ps > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sending text .... when I send postscript, all is well (posted earlier, this & other threads) .... I think all is well here .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 22:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C37B17B for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1615112B8 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by gateway2.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741FA2077C for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 18:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 07 Sep 2014 18:06:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=f-m.fm; h= message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh= eAdzzn8+N4K6XgoMWWLMIW9H7cI=; b=G/r0M/GtwBfaH7JD/D4bJft33Nj4hWU3 DzbrOAwZudhPeM4Qj3iS1W/un0U+OyDoZkj5s6I+xSQHUoenMqAVGKYWspHv9VHD Nz38cjungB4WxjmCsBN7t0qE85Dg5gSjkVKc67oTZ46FAh4yD4ldQs3qXDyvohKO ooPd9u6VwXo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=eAdzzn8+N4K6XgoMWWLMIW9H7cI=; b=C1H X6JH1w5NEoq9dUaH2yoPyHSE+zh93+jZu+mUpo/ohLlz6vsEQjtMgYcsRPYqqkfo yfgVe+vhmFsmwFMInTFFz6tXVxHutM87Imr9iH1LNo2QdMIqouiLQljvQVN1hxZZ Z2PkKqMNgV/zq08VmsPkZQ55ujtJOsfkEdfYKHaY= Received: by web6.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4FA8941F23; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 18:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1410127565.3072081.164697973.71682282@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: j3kv+HVapI0gT+3u0YfAfxFjGzkA4cLPk0dhkXs5aF36 1410127565 From: Ross Penner To: Roland Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-f82de2e6 In-Reply-To: <20140830092309.GA13466@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <1409380442.2672021.158440789.5C42A334@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140830092309.GA13466@slackbox.erewhon.home> Subject: Re: USB ethernet adapter support Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 15:06:05 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:06:08 -0000 On Sat, 30 Aug 2014, at 02:23 AM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:34:02PM -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > > I have a USB ethernet adapter that doesn't seem to work out of the box > > on my 10.0 system. I'm hoping somebody can help me figure out what > > driver to load, or if there even is a driver available. > >=20 > > When I plug the device into the FreeBSD machine the only line on dmesg > > is: > > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > >=20 > > It does work with my Ubuntu 14.04 system. I've added the dmesg output in > > the hopes that it will be helpful: > > [137513.415146] usb 1-1.5: new high-speed USB device number 6 using > > ehci-pci > > [137513.508489] usb 1-1.5: New USB device found, idVendor=3D13b1, > > idProduct=3D0041 > > [137513.508493] usb 1-1.5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3D1, Product=3D2, > > SerialNumber=3D6 > > [137513.508494] usb 1-1.5: Product: Linksys USB3GIGV1 > > [137513.508495] usb 1-1.5: Manufacturer: Linksys > > [137513.508497] usb 1-1.5: SerialNumber: 000001000000 > > [137513.528939] cdc_ether 1-1.5:2.0 eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at > > usb-0000:00:1a.0-1.5, CDC Ethernet Device, b4:75:0e:8f:5e:90 > > [137513.528960] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether > > [137518.015729] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready >=20 > You might get it to work with cdce(4). From the manual page: >=20 > Many USB devices notoriously fail to report their class and > interfaces > correctly. Undetected products might work flawlessly when their > vendor > and product IDs are added to the driver manually. >=20 > You will have to patch the files /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs and > /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/net/if_cdce.c to add this device. Everything > *between* > the lines starting with =E2=80=9C+++++=E2=80=9D is the patch; >=20 > +++++ patch for /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs +++++ > --- usbdevs.orig 2014-08-30 10:40:43.000000000 +0200 > +++ usbdevs 2014-08-30 10:42:58.000000000 +0200 > @@ -1402,6 +1402,7 @@ > product CISCOLINKSYS WUSB54GR 0x0023 WUSB54GR > product CISCOLINKSYS WUSBF54G 0x0024 WUSBF54G > product CISCOLINKSYS AE1000 0x002f AE1000 > +product CISCOLINKSYS USB3GIGV 0x0041 USB3GIGV > product CISCOLINKSYS2 RT3070 0x4001 RT3070 > product CISCOLINKSYS3 RT3070 0x0101 RT3070 > +++++ patch for /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs +++++ >=20 > Save this patch to a file (e.g. usbdevs.diff) and use the patch(1) > utility to apply it; >=20 > # cd /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/ > # patch =20 > Then you'll have to patch /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/net/if_cdce.c to do the > same; >=20 > +++++ patch for /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/net/if_cdce.c +++++ > --- if_cdce.c.orig 2014-08-30 11:07:02.000000000 +0200 > +++ if_cdce.c 2014-08-30 11:09:56.000000000 +0200 > @@ -277,6 +277,7 @@ > {USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_SHARP, USB_PRODUCT_SHARP_SLA300, CDCE_FLAG_ZAURUS |= CDCE_FLAG_NO_UNION)}, > {USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_SHARP, USB_PRODUCT_SHARP_SLC700, CDCE_FLAG_ZAURUS |= CDCE_FLAG_NO_UNION)}, > {USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_SHARP, USB_PRODUCT_SHARP_SLC750, CDCE_FLAG_ZAURUS |= CDCE_FLAG_NO_UNION)}, > + {USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_CISCOLINKSYS, > USB_PRODUCT_CISCOLINKSYS_USB3GIGV, CDCE_FLAG_NO_UNION)}, > }; >=20=20 > static const STRUCT_USB_DUAL_ID cdce_dual_devs[] =3D { > +++++ patch for /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/net/if_cdce.c +++++ >=20 > Note that these patches were prepared on a 10-STABLE system; the files > might > differ slightly from those on 10.0-RELEASE. If applying the patches > fails, > edit the files by hand. >=20 > Now you have to rebuild and install the cdce module; >=20 > # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/usb/cdce > # make > # cp if_cdce.ko /boot/kernel/ > # make cleandir >=20 > If the old if_cdce module is loaded, unload it; >=20 > # kldunload if_cdce.ko >=20 >=20 > IIRC, required modules are loaded automatically, but to be sure you can > load > the module before plugging the device in; >=20 > # kldload if_cdce.ko >=20 > Now plug in the device and see if it works. Note that I don't have access > to > this hardware so I don't know if it works. >=20 > While I don't think this will crash your system, you never know. So make > sure you > have up-to-date backups. >=20 >=20 > Roland > --=20 > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) > Email had 1 attachment: > + Attachment2 > 1k (application/pgp-signature) I applied the patches manually and had some mixed success. I can see the device and it registers as ue0. unfortunetly, it doesn't completely work. When I plug it in, the console displays: ugen4.2: at usbus4 cdce0: on usbus4 cdce0: faking MAC address ue0: on cdce0 ue0: Ethernet address: 2a:d5:07:9d:01:00 The output from 'ifconfig ue0': ue0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 MTU 1500 ether 2a:d5:07:9d:01:00 nd6 options=3D29 Notably lacking a media or status entry. Is there any where I can go from here or should I wrote off this adapter and find a replacement? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 00:08:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D870073B for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E7FC1E5C for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s8808M37098570; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:08:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 28C94123C5; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:08:22 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ross Penner Subject: Re: USB ethernet adapter support Message-ID: <20140908000822.GA30923@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Ross Penner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1409380442.2672021.158440789.5C42A334@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140830092309.GA13466@slackbox.erewhon.home> <1410127565.3072081.164697973.71682282@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1410127565.3072081.164697973.71682282@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 00:08:38 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 03:06:05PM -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > I applied the patches manually and had some mixed success. >=20 > I can see the device and it registers as ue0. unfortunetly, it doesn't > completely work. >=20 > When I plug it in, the console displays: >=20 > ugen4.2: at usbus4 > cdce0: on > usbus4 > cdce0: faking MAC address > ue0: on cdce0 > ue0: Ethernet address: 2a:d5:07:9d:01:00 >=20 > The output from 'ifconfig ue0': > ue0: flags=3D8802 metric 0 MTU 1500 > ether 2a:d5:07:9d:01:00 > nd6 options=3D29 Any diagnostics messages from cdce in /var/log/messages? > Notably lacking a media or status entry. =46rom the cdce(4) manual page: The cdce driver does not support different media types or options. > Is there any where I can go from here or should I wrote off this adapter > and find a replacement? Try without the CDCE_FLAG_NO_UNION flag in cdce_host_devs[]? Have a look at the source code for the Linux driver. Maybe there is some initialization or flags necessary that the cdce driver isn't doing. Unpacking the windoze drivers and looking through the files (e.g. .inf file= s) sometimes yields interesting info. But looking for a replacement for which a FreeBSD driver exists might be a good idea. :-( Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUDPN2AAoJEED21dyjijPg/3AP/RrpcFEs8qwmMjgYizaAscoo oRuTHZRVpBYP/r7q7V7EjfQoS9h2beefZC6h2s2N+dR+d8wcqjXsBhJ8+ykqPp46 OpM/q8RZmrIS8I7lMvOZRJbNot/zustfTvamrdY2Ihir9u9OUabMomQey6zrFITr 2j2qutcFGtpMJTHx4gXQjEqfZTruclyrIz5DsVowwtBAe5xLFpctort7e03GO5/i gD17xttsfGB0zzXMav9LDDH0PeHjOZevEL2J2pK+FgKEooJuKqHaFYYArVwvXPRm nyHv+8K+Jwgwy5CIxC4CkIU/fTuld0Sj0+T4uTIHCCTo4I8Tdgtpr3atWV/ccns0 kTFeJnaz2Ll4ZIw1PhJ1quGq/cFOPGwr24JgOuqgarbol1bkUivbQXG0kL8QyK7e 01DOfphpBD4GMpjSuv9XUwkBwtCnYBaengwFqlsTziEN9/EfRODHEGBSyiBk0PX4 KmiGUrx8apgCDLopvy+tIW/I7qYMYpjNvbv3X62uvgmW2quZ9QcRPtoZQbU8BLEu tY6eIrBjZwW4dli+FmjZ9VkyS0cswbO6c8V3EczBGDwmTyQxmg1kB4SbaLk/3mjZ ulhEEbC+SxCgLTRBsoCFTH7kjiu2/mCf2VxItbVbKUZoKOiCzMe+k0meqZ40jtVF 0wigOQONLKvUxDZ2qQWK =uSp8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 00:50:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93336C24 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-nf-201.his.com (smtp-nf-201.his.com [216.194.248.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EA61286 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cuda201.his.com (cuda201.his.com [216.194.248.226]) by smtp-nf-201.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B481E62090 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:46 -0400 (EDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1410136845-061c410feed7d0b0001-jLrpzn Received: from smtp-nf-202.his.com (smtp-nf-202.his.com [216.194.251.28]) by cuda201.his.com with ESMTP id L3rQ17csLsv6ZH0y; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:40:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: dickey@his.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 216.194.251.28 Received: from mail-sterling.his.com (mail-sterling.his.com [216.194.248.141]) by smtp-nf-202.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACFA60183; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-sterling.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37143F80001; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-sterling.his.com Received: from mail-sterling.his.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-sterling.his.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0mVAKnqiTPuE; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-sterling.his.com (mail-sterling.his.com [216.194.248.141]) by mail-sterling.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250D33F80005; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 20:40:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Dickey To: Victor Sudakov Message-ID: <1429529502.22004428.1410136841047.JavaMail.root@his.com> In-Reply-To: <20140905024655.GA51629@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Subject: Re: xterm, screen and the "Home" and "End" keys MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: xterm, screen and the "Home" and "End" keys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [96.231.164.93] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.6_GA_2926 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Mac)/7.2.6_GA_2926) X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp-nf-202.his.com[216.194.251.28] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1410136845 X-Barracuda-URL: http://spam.his.com:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi Received-SPF: pass (his.com: domain of dickey@his.com designates 216.194.248.141 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at his.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.9269 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 00:50:49 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Victor Sudakov" | To: "Thomas Dickey" | Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org | Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:46:55 PM | Subject: Re: xterm, screen and the "Home" and "End" keys | | Thomas Dickey wrote: | > > > > | > > > > alternatively: | > > > > | > > > > XTerm*keyboardType: vt220 | > > > | > > > (not in "VT100") | > > | > > Works too, thank you. | > > How did you know? | > | > It was "an educated guess" (I maintain ncurses and xterm) | | Great! Could you try and make another educated guess? ;-) What could | have changed in FreeBSD between 8.4 and 9.3 that caused this problem? | | I have always used vim+screen on my FreeBSD 8.4 box at work from my | 9.3-STABLE desktop at home (over ssh, from X). The problem with the | "Home" and "End" keys arose when I upgraded the work box to 9.3. | | Of course the upgrade involved the update of all ports, so maybe vim | or screen are to blame and not FreeBSD per se. termcap or xterm seem like the place to start looking (see explanation), but I'm not aware of any recent change. When screen starts, it takes note of the escape sequences for each of the keys, and maps those into its own sequences. The sequences you expect for screen's own look okay. Since you're _getting_ those sequences, it sounds as if xterm's been changed, e.g., with a port option to send the VT220-keyboard. That's a runtime default that can be overridden with the control/left/mouse menu. I'd compare the local / remote xterms' setting on that menu, to see if the misbehaving one has the "VT220 Keyboard" menu entry selected. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 01:38:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4383CF83 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBDA1763 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:38:34 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,484,1406610000"; d="scan'208";a="1006718335" Received: from nlpiport02.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.117]) by nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2014 20:33:33 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcrAH8GDVS9qohu/2dsb2JhbABZgw2BKrBUAQIBAQEGgUuZXoUsAQMEAgGBDBd4hAQBBVYzCxgJExIPKh4ZiES7CgEXhXyJWBaENgWLNZE8AZUshAEdL4JPAQEB Received: from dsl-189-170-136-110-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.net) ([189.170.136.110]) by nlpiport02.prodigy.net.mx with SMTP; 07 Sep 2014 20:33:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 18:33:23 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing problems .... Message-ID: <20140907183323.49c7dc4d@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <540CC80D.3080002@hiwaay.net> References: <5400A209.7030103@hiwaay.net> <20140903191459.3f118c97@morena.maps.net> <5407CF8D.3070007@hiwaay.net> <20140905074041.1f2ca56f@morena.maps.net> <540CC80D.3080002@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 01:38:35 -0000 El Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:03:09 -0500 "William A. Mahaffey III" escribi=F3: >=20 > On 09/05/14 09:40, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: > > Are you sending text or postscript? > > >=20 > Sending text .... when I send postscript, all is well (posted > earlier, this & other threads) .... I think all is well here .... >=20 Well, that means that the printer does not support plain text printing Martin Paredes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 04:59:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62805D16 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 04:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440041221 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 04:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oUo11o00217UAYkA3UzSAn; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 04:59:26 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oUzR1o00B3nhSLa8ZUzSUB; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 04:59:26 +0000 Message-ID: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:59:19 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Project Questions DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410152366; bh=Ysl8SH8AEgTRFxTHZJA8CZVEt3TutjxscWloZmOQ588=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=h+Ai3R+bZMGtdT6aI3CPJEwSQwoEsbZ4UEiKiRl088ZFLlRFi7QcTw46As8Nc7xd2 TzrynkPokfNbQn0LI15bB0Sr5HgLB3NHdKBIXrSGBM552wcHEbzOODq1p0wt4opRXN MOYsUGnumJUBvayTMvRMwiq31NjxlqXxbRMy0LSwkpoL//aT4hYcWX3nrJKFatOaqT 3n/Eb+fHLtcS96K/KoqXVEJ1Isvn4M9mqL0XWvVOpGjWZk94NCsKY6LwH/B5RYAxss RMjttTDzF/UQtpENKBjoLKVH9RB1m5NYhhb2ix9LGD5YyOx/EioDQLfbaEp/bXbhur diz9iCt92fQmw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 04:59:28 -0000 Good Evening, While I have no questions a this moment. I will be having questions in the near future (days). I am a retired systems integrator who has changed all of my specifications and basis of designs to FreeBSD from Linux....While retired, I have maintained two accounts that still want me to service them...The City of Simla came to me as a recommendation from one of my other clients. Based upon my own experience with FreeBSD over the last 6ish months, and frustration and embarrassment--in front of a client....with Linux. Plus the frustration with the systemd, Wayland, Mir, X debacle has caused my other clients to plan for FreeBSD conversions by Jan 2015. I am tired of deploying systems who may change to some new technology tomorrow, without proper thought, and potentially orphaning/breaking my project, or causing me to have to rebuilt it to accommodate the updates.....all on my nickle with no recoup of revenue. My FreeBSD experience has been one of reliability, stability, and consistency. That's the experience I want to provide to this new client, and then to my old clients at years end. Frankly, I couldn't be happier with FreeBSD. As I have rolled out a lot of Linux solutions over the years...the current project I have been awarded (City of Simla, Colorado IT Infrastructure Changeout) will be first big project I have done going pure FreeBSD on the server and on the desktop, instead of my old paradigm of Linux. Because I still have Linux knowledge in my head...and being older...I fear inadvertently "linuxizing" FreeBSD. I know there are some similarities between the two technologies, I am also aware of some real differences...such as proper setup and maintenance of a ZRaid under ZFS. This mailing list has been recommended by a fellow FreeBSD guru (whom I met on the forums) who has helped me immensely in my own personal port over to FreeBSD. I simply want to use this group as a check of my deployment plans to make sure I deploy FreeBSD in an orthodox manner. I don't know if there are email length limitations, frequency limits, or what the culture is on this mailing list. I do not forsee a lot of issues, thus I don;t forsee a lot of emails that I would generate. I've been in IT since the days of the Eniac and acoustically coupled modems. While I may be experienced and seasoned...I am very junior to FreeBSD....< 1 year as stated earlier. In reality I am looking for assistance validating my plan to make sure it is FreeBSD in style and best practice. I am NOT asking for others to do my work for me...just validate it to ensure I stay within acceptable best practices for FreeBSD. Said another way, I am looking for a litmus test for best practice and protection against misapplication of FreeBSD. I do the formal walk-through with the City tomorrow (Monday the 8th)...and I can then make the design and implementation plans on my end before I litmus check it with this list. I would expect at some time to generate a chart, be that a DIA chart, or some other charting software (feel free to recommend one), for drawing up the new network architecture based upon my walk-through tomorrow. More Q's: Are attachments allowed or not? PDF? or Native format? Would someone in this mailing list please let me know what the culture is and proper usage of this list is, and what is expected of me when I generate an email to this list? Thank you! Sincerely and respectfully, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 06:09:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACDEFA5C for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 06:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA121A1A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 06:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8869bQW042554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 07:09:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8869bQW042554 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1410156578; bh=9+pwxtdYc0+o32sb4FMJR2UG2yI8dJi4/iYE5UUdC6E=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2008=20Sep=202014=2007:09:24=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20New=20Project=20Questions|Referen ces:=20<540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<540D37A7.108 0605@comcast.net>; b=asSFTRESpUOn0IhTgho/VHhcrJOZ4sSokGm6FCRJmuFCH4XrWhuQR5HW6Ek7rXeZR h3zH9yCKT6nPAXeClSb4IaQmto50tKFQpVJTHXBoKXqH4/eYF9u4Kwzjnypk2m0aRJ Kf03oxXV0wzdAv9KZdVHsO2Br9VTQA9Q3W+Ne9g8= Message-ID: <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 07:09:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Project Questions References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bPatac2PvVnxGqsRe9DkwC0DTBoUHlF96" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 06:09:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bPatac2PvVnxGqsRe9DkwC0DTBoUHlF96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/09/2014 05:59, Dave Babb wrote: > I don't know if there are email length limitations, frequency limits, o= r > what the culture is on this mailing list. Formally, there are no limitations on how much or how often you can post here. However you will find you get better results if you ask your questions in a concise and direct way, and keep to one main issue in each posting. In general, the culture here is friendly and supportive, and you will probably get useful answers. freebsd-questions is the generic mailing list and the best place for beginner's questions, or to ask questions where you're not sure what the best forum is. There are quite a few more specialised technical lists and we'll refer you to those when appropriate. > I do not forsee a lot of issues, thus I don;t forsee a lot of emails > that I would generate. I've been in IT since the days of the Eniac and > acoustically coupled modems. While I may be experienced and seasoned...= I > am very junior to FreeBSD....< 1 year as stated earlier. In reality I a= m > looking for assistance validating my plan to make sure it is FreeBSD in= > style and best practice. I am NOT asking for others to do my work for > me...just validate it to ensure I stay within acceptable best practices= > for FreeBSD. Said another way, I am looking for a litmus test for best > practice and protection against misapplication of FreeBSD. So long as what you ask is relevant and the answers are not trivially discoverable by a cursory web search, there should be no problems. > I do the formal walk-through with the City tomorrow (Monday the > 8th)...and I can then make the design and implementation plans on my en= d > before I litmus check it with this list. >=20 > I would expect at some time to generate a chart, be that a DIA chart, o= r > some other charting software (feel free to recommend one), for drawing > up the new network architecture based upon my walk-through tomorrow. Software for drawing diagrams is something that has come up before -- it's not quite a perennial favourite, but certainly something that will get you a number of suggested alternatives. Unfortunately it seems there is no really top class free and open alternative to Visio. > More Q's: Are attachments allowed or not? PDF? or Native format? Attachments are limited to a small number of textual types -- essentially diffs or other ascii text. You're best off not attaching anything. If you can, ask your question entirely in the body of your e-mail. If you need to show people diagrams or voluminous program output, then it's best to put that up on the web somewhere and post a link. Pastebin sites are popular for that. > Would someone in this mailing list please let me know what the culture > is and proper usage of this list is, and what is expected of me when I > generate an email to this list? Stay polite, do your own homework and try and keep relevant. That's pretty much it. Although if you do have any interesting anecdotes from back in the Eniac days, you'll probably find a willing audience here (within reason -- there's the freebsd-chat@ list which is really the intended venue for that sort of thing.) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 07:31:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BE0B793 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 07:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.tp2.us.calorieking.net (mx.tp2.us.calorieking.net [74.53.216.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E31F1159 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 07:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net (mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net [173.193.161.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.tp2.us.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D303F40EF for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netserv.sl1.us.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568D6130FBB for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by netserv.sl1.us.calorieking.net (mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id APVpzDpVCwC0 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egeria.internal (114.179.70.115.static.exetel.com.au [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.sl1.us.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A46B130FBA for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 00:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:06:49 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Project Questions References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-ID: 28D303F40EF.39331 X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-VirusCheck: Found to be clean X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-15, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-From: gregory.orange@calorieking.com X-FamilyHealth-MailScanner-Watermark: 1410764813.85703@vfMInfOpHjixo0COPoMh+g X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 07:31:15 -0000 On 08/09/14 14:09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Unfortunately it seems > there is no really top class free and open alternative to Visio. I've heard a few people call Inkscape a Visio-killer. I've never used Visio, but have been happy with Inkscape for all of my uses. HTH, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 08:01:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 296AE261; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC9B1159D; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id a141so9464350oig.21 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SZxmwXPLy6d/Rt6knVWUn14QJw5L0fNRhAJAgRT+fEI=; b=kGDnw0P1DCpH3E82jau/+IveWoq/4eMjKOurHdOre7WBNdrqZZnQboJFMsIBB27HtR /EcsWNFm+ptRKJHE1CyZxys4P2swB+Z0kBEKPtGoW9PCv54Rl8o9o/MBkjsitExu6+dj uffKlzUWPE00sFqL7WSp42alzW15kI6WaDc4zj7bRamskOak1OmS8KaIzGWNOjYe4WvA nNp68msMVk8RDx5ilA1QKMss8rzuaiq0kGUipinwbA0gXMRSwpiDu8rKfg1JVjduyXBF uVJyRh0KFIer1PfPqAzELpIj9yQa68P7q3shuKojVBA9EyJRWGkWDfDIsIs1GlQjOYNu Umjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.145.143 with SMTP id su15mr12411304oeb.58.1410163273240; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.48.15 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.48.15 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:01:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9GwNDKd37UTNkHAX3YOVlpTWZkc Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: CeDeROM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:01:14 -0000 Hello world! :-) I am considering to buy Netgear PTV3000 [1] for wireless audio-video streaming HDMI adapter. Does FreeBSD support any of the WiDi/Miracast/WiFiDirect medium? It seems very very interesting portable multiplatform solution :-) Best regards :-) Tomek [1] http://www.netgear.com/home/products/connected-entertainment/wireless-display-adapters/PTV3000.aspx -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 08:01:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6655F3CE for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1A115BB for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8881VUm045135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:01:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8881VUm045135 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1410163298; bh=i0d7hT6Cs6JLyJQwXfgM2cTWMZfqkwObouXuQBFMrEc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2008=20Sep=202014=2009:01:20=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20New=20Project=20Questions|Referen ces:=20<540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net>=20<540D4814.2090205@infracan inophile.co.uk>=20<540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com>|In-Reply-To:= 20<540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com>; b=GonYRHFIBNJXmSpPtioQ3pgxLdXnxhxRfTJ7RDXVdNJYxcT/ECwSl3qvJzHlXjg+v xG9UjtzqBi7vLA23vqvZnRL15+9IRK0C3EVwSVZPTtjiBQx04n3OwuwWjEcAf61BZJ b1HtMUFaOGtB5sSU723EtZsscwCmsG9atICW7Peg= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <540D6250.5090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:01:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Project Questions References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> <540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com> In-Reply-To: <540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="44mectuxxPT5fsgBPIsATwJj7CSEiRGnr" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RDNS_NONE,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:01:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --44mectuxxPT5fsgBPIsATwJj7CSEiRGnr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/14 08:06, Gregory Orange wrote: > On 08/09/14 14:09, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Unfortunately it seems >> there is no really top class free and open alternative to Visio. >=20 > I've heard a few people call Inkscape a Visio-killer. I've never used > Visio, but have been happy with Inkscape for all of my uses. Inkscape is cool and I have used it to draw network diagrams in the past, but you can it isn't really intended for that purpose. It is pretty close though. Cheers, Matthew --44mectuxxPT5fsgBPIsATwJj7CSEiRGnr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUDWJaXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnVKsQALWzSxKEWTvYI2OBSkQqcG6t Q4q/veG87CodROHJNM7stcWojdoTb2rrnsA0kJUX62h0aCBIqusMgsKF3aIOn9QV c7YeGppaKVMN+t3vDBSoLdxZiEOI/Xr8+9Nmn1VLzun2uJrc9k0YlewI0ax4W72d OBs7m4Y1NLe4odChVOq7hN20vX9Pe8pgx7azv9EFKqBUa3f8zBBubZbt2hZCKY/R lsB51FBNkfUe77/IuCQibiXuotRCSEitmwsxlhhdKDe+cNreypw7yPeYd3NbMHKe 7bAEXFX3zMl6KqqXOzav3+yfqxULn6inUhhKEoJeVu82DJo0V7LFpkwTVi9afww1 U57JNc6sKMezH/8sGAs/Os0swmzD3nPxjFN9N5/A5bo5JRyb4l6E37b4GFRtW3LK iV4QXy8K7RuqCXo/Sn4IxR5Qj4GV+3TPkuVBhmHOPNHfCLhNF6vR0rlqWED6aFsE iQ8vTAwa2wy6ntf16hPs2ZLi2WoLEg6SskTJXLPN2h6MlqqCVXt3Abr4xT6sFXcV 5orALsmsbd2a5QBydZFV5Vtv4jL/HfN/HUAG/Hmktgl5PQEEqQTmlgPyBLnMo/zF eBJbNix1HcFUvB0PQeg8fZEqwG8+fmzlUnEZeINd9wFCRHXR+SWilpYS0qP9/jGW xU8gATn/SjVEE3CPxa13 =xpDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --44mectuxxPT5fsgBPIsATwJj7CSEiRGnr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 08:33:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B76DEA98 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EAE419D2 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u56so1067724wes.32 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 01:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=I2251rhlIORAdL42T75a1RNov4+W4yukYbhXy04N45Q=; b=H/JBoxxXNEX31hBkrkYH8VL0NkqRauqMWYgzdbh2eOdWWAXIAgFot+QgdN29frsESx U6uFUqywOglfaqcUyP5kw16BuFFnf3DEyi7Q+BJp7OzPK/ncnxO5pU2Cw7imi/53Shcc WPV7BQqZIYHv8m8UBMR9cf5Z9wTh3tBNV1gifccE+ge72ItGeO96Wj16nofU6LD/cc34 eGOaTTkr6yMFmsZ1du11QC2gVduM/m934dTvYKEi9ekKMtmsTdJX4mQ3DAwz6e/Oi+Rh itVsFdPam7s/dT6KbG41aUM5N6+PDudHUb0z0a4YQKgr3M5fPPGeJCDLO10pik5q06K0 it1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.8.230 with SMTP id u6mr20571081wia.24.1410165183445; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 01:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.104.66 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:33:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <540D6250.5090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> <540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com> <540D6250.5090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:33:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Project Questions From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:33:05 -0000 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 09/08/14 08:06, Gregory Orange wrote: > > On 08/09/14 14:09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Unfortunately it seems > >> there is no really top class free and open alternative to Visio. > > > > I've heard a few people call Inkscape a Visio-killer. I've never used > > Visio, but have been happy with Inkscape for all of my uses. > > Inkscape is cool and I have used it to draw network diagrams in the > past, but you can it isn't really intended for that purpose. It is > pretty close though. > devel/visualparadigm is oriented to UML-like diagrams, but it comes with Visual_Paradigm_Shape_Editor that is a tool to draw diagrams "to express domain specific ideas". Might be worth a look. Cheers. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 08:45:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA9CCE99 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz (exchange.mail.starnet.cz [92.62.224.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz", Issuer "STARNET" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ECF41AF1 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4]) by EXCHANGE.mail.starnet.cz ([fe80::d017:9e72:12a5:7bb4%14]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:45:44 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Radek_Krej=E8a?= To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:45:43 +0200 Subject: A lot of pkg problems Thread-Topic: A lot of pkg problems Thread-Index: Ac/LQUrhUYjcBkN5S2usIUF74cQiZw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: cs-CZ Content-Language: cs-CZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: cs-CZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:45:54 -0000 Hello, I am trying to install my computer today (new hardware) and I cannot instal= l a lot of packages, eg. firefox, thunderbird, chromium, xfce, libreoffice. All is falling on message: Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: cannot install package firefox~www/firefox, remove it from request? [Y/n]: All the same... I have deleted all packages and problem is still the same. Radek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 09:56:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997CBD63 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 545F61296 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.220] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 09:54:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 09:54:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 847966.71717.bm@omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74656 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2014 09:54:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1410170060; bh=iymXkcg/z7EgnZjTl7kjCashxxRU4aqc+NGJUZ3DpGk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G8pAr7YMlvSgKp/mXqu8nkv9/H8zVYgDWw0RPzhSsAWKBlhJn1m7jfbAoiu1fsIhTUtK2cr4eh2TIHVAm43F/1Ru9mlZEZSoAvtUuKr/y/MFPb/858hPvVUCi84BZR72RUdqN817Bs8wX5mLbxn+GRKIqGt0ByWa1Ci1fu1JgV8= X-YMail-OSG: ni1cOTsVM1l9MShuM8wWYkl50.ahABVqFcTpB7qNNHykygR Ben9JSXJy_WzSC58awL0L0zvRiC6FKbrGCBzcgWQ7hwRPjXdZsayMadwgyUH 3vaqChckwDYYR2ASyTLbuRWm_1pa1XU2Elt_UKexoHDaf.dHnPWIyDF5qsu2 VJ4hlaBZuzWkbIgJluLNCZcD.eO2zMmhhAXGq5636euBbgV7ybM6q_rvLGwP V_hAsVrx3crglaTZhjZ6BZBnJX_dzwhRyPSD.ilhfFunarKYTzbybCDqJICA MD6eFo58A4rXbjyI35nWIyRYoeEQBhu.6r4ro0L7Fp7eZ8OL3b5jY.r65Fb_ MQwzZr8eo6FGGhQ31Ar1zbeVqzsDwaK.g0br9p4qg3mwRsUMQtP4RP1O8q60 ej0ievk3MeEoDHmYVjuThmMKSzlEcoNu7ehGag0.fJOhZlRHojSOqqdN6KWZ pCktkszwW5OMCu5RZcOXx4E94oKb.lk1RIU42QEzUImCjCrOE3omgfl.FuRV zcnwA.Lla0bUZ7iWYnKJIjmdzvtLb18nLKtIo7_v2YlMY5sGNcE9fNM5YFpU 50ar.3A-- Received: from [212.92.1.119] by web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 02:54:20 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGksCgpEbyB5b3Uga25vdyBhbnkgKExpbnV4KSBodG9wIGFsdGVybmF0aXZlIGZvciBGcmVlQlNEPwoKVGh4IQpMYXN6bG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.696 Message-ID: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:54:20 -0700 From: Laszlo Danielisz Reply-To: Laszlo Danielisz Subject: htop alternative To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:56:37 -0000 Hi, Do you know any (Linux) htop alternative for FreeBSD? Thx! Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 10:13:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 125EAE7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.web.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1CE614B4 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CoreI5 ([92.206.25.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKaHP-1XQ78M1PJH-001vP2; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:13:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:13:24 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Laszlo Danielisz Subject: Re: htop alternative Message-Id: <20140908121324.368fadb08c88c5d10f8ef6ed@web.de> In-Reply-To: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:25EByoigHpzXR8wXskkGpaE4vHnBF57SfYQiUkJsumIFxbmTJD+ Ciequq+jlVF+B+w/QnNhf7dcDZXhz4Jhw7qyfNyXNRBzSd+h1ocU2yqopgPbYM7qkc6OJCB VfuThP+fvhu1AP4lxVCuSl4UdhFJuctn+vLliOzG36ZlXoswM/J0C7C1Wou+vr5gy8bFZ/C sNYoTThl9cG1QkJodc9kQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:13:34 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:54:20 -0700 Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hi, > > Do you know any (Linux) htop alternative for FreeBSD? What is wrong with sysutils/htop ? Andreas -- GnuPG key: 0x6686E5BC | http://www.gnupg.org/gph/de/manual/index.html Fingerprint: A51D B6CA 785C 5AE2 6858 4E23 A18F 0083 6686 E5BC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 10:13:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABC72E8 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frv150.fwdcdn.com (frv151.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 632FD14B7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.10.28] (helo=frv154.fwdcdn.com) by frv150.fwdcdn.com QID:1XQvhf-000OSl-TD/RC:1; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:43 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=fsm; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=eBj/SeyJGInXXfGAxj82cWDSjFi2fAtVsqWsAGvRG0A=; b=Pwf0zMnGo3FB830MmD2GysclgcqsfUSZyeyiZCWzg6Vvv4aXJecB4uoivkzmR94eMb/Ebq8SmebQIsD4Vn/gs93ep6YIYpLKC8b0j5Lq+D2w9HlQqc3xOSUx3dq9e4NWTX2Mqs2pFAd+31LnPCTG/lnA52lVzZ3aXouGp7BHgqE=; Received: from 109-227-120-129.dynamic-pool.mclaut.net ([109.227.120.129] helo=nonamehost.local) by frv154.fwdcdn.com with esmtpsa ID 1XQvhS-0002lg-Mc ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:30 +0300 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:57:29 +0300 From: Ivan Klymenko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: htop alternative Message-ID: <20140908125729.5df1364e@nonamehost.local> In-Reply-To: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Authentication-Result: IP=109.227.120.129; mail.from=fidaj@ukr.net; dkim=pass; header.d=ukr.net X-Ukrnet-Yellow: 0 Cc: Laszlo Danielisz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:13:34 -0000 =D0=92 Mon, 8 Sep 2014 02:54:20 -0700 Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > Hi, >=20 > Do you know any (Linux) htop alternative for FreeBSD? >=20 > Thx! > Laszlo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" /usr/ports/sysutils/htop From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 10:51:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82ECDAB4 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0138.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24C641A12 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] (2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df) by CY1PR0301MB0841.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1019.16; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 10:16:57 +0000 Message-ID: <540D8214.5070400@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 05:16:52 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: htop alternative References: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0038.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.176) To CY1PR0301MB0841.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.147) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 03283976A6 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019017)(6009001)(51704005)(24454002)(199003)(189002)(23676002)(81342001)(107046002)(110136001)(83072002)(86362001)(76176999)(105586002)(221733001)(80316001)(65956001)(80022001)(64706001)(59896002)(74502001)(75432001)(76482001)(95666004)(89122001)(92726001)(92566001)(87976001)(107886001)(21056001)(85852003)(2351001)(46102001)(85306004)(83322001)(65816999)(87266999)(50466002)(101416001)(20776003)(106356001)(50986999)(79102001)(47776003)(54356999)(88552001)(77982001)(33656002)(31966008)(74662001)(42186005)(90102001)(99396002)(4396001)(83506001)(102836001)(77096002)(97736003)(81542001)(111123002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB0841; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:3cfa:1b41:db29:34df]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 10:51:43 -0000 On 2014.09.08 04:54, Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hi, > > Do you know any (Linux) htop alternative for FreeBSD? I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but I find myself switching between top and htop. htop has a more useful layout and is much nicer to look at, but it lacks some information in places (probably because it wasn't written with FreeBSD in mind too much), whereas top fills those gaps (it is written specifically for FreeBSD), but isn't as flexible in what it shows at one time or as pretty as htop. There are of course some other programs in base such as ps and procstat that can present information on processes in other ways. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 11:03:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E6BEFBB for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.bvgsvcs.net (mail.bvgsvcs.net [197.221.16.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E221B96 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.amavis.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B221F268E for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:57:21 +0200 (SAST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bvgsvcs.net Received: from mail.bvgsvcs.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bvgsvcs.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bCEmgu9qkODO for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:57:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: from penguin.localnet (unknown [196.1.1.18]) by mail.bvgsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3DD22C3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:57:21 +0200 (SAST) From: Coert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD pkgng with multiple repositories Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 12:57:13 +0200 Message-ID: <2917203.foIsb7xUQr@penguin> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.2 (Linux/3.13.0-24-generic; KDE/4.13.2; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:03:59 -0000 Hello all, Installed FreeBSD 10, and I saw that only one pkg repo is defined by default: pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest I then wanted to install KDE, and saw it has no package in that latest repo. After some googling I then added pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0 as an extra repo, and it worked. Can I have both release and latest configured as repos at the same time? or will this cause problems down the line? What is common/best practice in this scenario? I read through the FreeBSD handbook on pkgng. Kind regards, Coert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 11:06:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D52613F for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 916851BD0 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s88B6mxk075773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:06:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s88B6m7o075770 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:06:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:06:48 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: New Project Questions In-Reply-To: <540D6250.5090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> <540D4814.2090205@infracaninophile.co.uk> <540D5589.4090908@calorieking.com> <540D6250.5090308@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:06:57 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:01+0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/08/14 08:06, Gregory Orange wrote: > > On 08/09/14 14:09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Unfortunately it seems > >> there is no really top class free and open alternative to Visio. > > > > I've heard a few people call Inkscape a Visio-killer. I've never used > > Visio, but have been happy with Inkscape for all of my uses. > > Inkscape is cool and I have used it to draw network diagrams in the > past, but you can it isn't really intended for that purpose. It is > pretty close though. Dia would be a better choice for a Visio-killer. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 11:35:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEC1895A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm34-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85E681ECD for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 11:34:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 11:34:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2014 11:34:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 937929.49027.bm@omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29086 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2014 11:34:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1410176092; bh=QrkpeJ3SvCcMirJ/hiejJVlFD2mjK+qJ3oVee7bDmd8=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UGBJZ0CX60ncCe0O9/KNtsmMzA3xMW9oA/VsiNHvMEJWX4KHTQKzyDfWMFxMRrPia3AVvbf7lOz6JpDyua/7sWyHlJdiqgTQKZXkcJQ4bXr76t3SEB7xdeIVVm1GPdrOyMXF5zLZKb7UbC1j3UsLB+NwZmJItPbFxtP8M8IWXdM= X-YMail-OSG: zxTxIIsVM1msfBD7Pb7j.C6o8JyIpuFOBet1osRa_9MIDnE ejvX0fE6Ao.OPUSf90jemOxCw0u9g5hbQi56BoCNveHVECHD4_HsI3FuRcPF Llb.OeMacj_gE2d0hHrwctAcUTrUzYac3PYElpgYkr9v0J2Uor2KJdBr3mUU v6ujnuFar486WBIVsCJgzUzoxP5SNP0zTvGt6z6LJlXxEL166uSA_QRySmb1 .d2cPx9FySRBX_QISfLYBhEyNCh0HS99UvG1Mb1U.q2rjSavQBebg1l5KECd ofe.QGARlhJYTLDX3SjiTT5V1IBvmdpkeJskq04z4s4EwCQby244hsyOKNKs 2XpdD1JVVTkRm8SueQmgB94SYcgN96kPuXF54A1VMvOG_3CQzFO.fA6xwj7n WtrvZbbnl8Nrb.SwpRKlkWGS4UvnBm4aJkz_36N.gVYLHgNF3icNgLhkQ0sB hvg.JmdVqQMzfPgdOynPgzLUZfqT8E4LjvXEHDdRrWrlRbRW3qDpsz7fkkF. eOosSNcx7uClQVcufIApg6Tp9bK5kLMqA3hA0goo.WH3XTHHxFBvkfOQhkPu vkw-- Received: from [212.92.1.119] by web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 04:34:52 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, VGhhbmsgeW91IGV2ZXJ5Ym9keSEKaHRvcCBpdCB3YXMgbm90IHdyaXR0ZW4gZm9yIEZyZWVCU0QsIGFzIEFuZHJldyBCZXJnIHdyb3RlLiBUaGlzIGlzIHRoZSByZWFzb24gSSdtIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIGEgcmVwbGFjZW1lbnQuCgoKCk9uIE1vbmRheSwgU2VwdGVtYmVyIDgsIDIwMTQgMTI6NTEgUE0sIEFuZHJldyBCZXJnIDxhYmVyZzAxMEBteS5oZW5uZXBpbnRlY2guZWR1PiB3cm90ZToKT24gMjAxNC4wOS4wOCAwNDo1NCwgTGFzemxvIERhbmllbGlzeiB2aWEgZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnMgd3JvdGU6CgoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.696 References: <1410170060.62398.YahooMailNeo@web160702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <540D8214.5070400@my.hennepintech.edu> Message-ID: <1410176092.86089.YahooMailNeo@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 04:34:52 -0700 From: Laszlo Danielisz Reply-To: Laszlo Danielisz Subject: Re: htop alternative To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <540D8214.5070400@my.hennepintech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:35:01 -0000 Thank you everybody! htop it was not written for FreeBSD, as Andrew Berg wrote. This is the reason I'm looking for a replacement. On Monday, September 8, 2014 12:51 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2014.09.08 04:54, Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hi, > > Do you know any (Linux) htop alternative for FreeBSD? I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but I find myself switching between top and htop. htop has a more useful layout and is much nicer to look at, but it lacks some information in places (probably because it wasn't written with FreeBSD in mind too much), whereas top fills those gaps (it is written specifically for FreeBSD), but isn't as flexible in what it shows at one time or as pretty as htop. There are of course some other programs in base such as ps and procstat that can present information on processes in other ways. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 13:37:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14FBC97D for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4EDD1D82 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 13:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-111.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s88Db3QX010694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:37:04 -0500 Message-ID: <540DB276.5020708@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:43:18 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Project Questions References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 13:37:07 -0000 On 09/07/14 23:59, Dave Babb wrote: > Good Evening, > > While I have no questions a this moment. I will be having questions in > the near future (days). > > I am a retired systems integrator who has changed all of my > specifications and basis of designs to FreeBSD from Linux....While > retired, I have maintained two accounts that still want me to service > them...The City of Simla came to me as a recommendation from one of my > other clients. Based upon my own experience with FreeBSD over the last > 6ish months, and frustration and embarrassment--in front of a > client....with Linux. Plus the frustration with the systemd, Wayland, > Mir, X debacle has caused my other clients to plan for FreeBSD > conversions by Jan 2015. I am tired of deploying systems who may change > to some new technology tomorrow, without proper thought, and potentially > orphaning/breaking my project, or causing me to have to rebuilt it to > accommodate the updates.....all on my nickle with no recoup of revenue. > > My FreeBSD experience has been one of reliability, stability, and > consistency. That's the experience I want to provide to this new client, > and then to my old clients at years end. Frankly, I couldn't be happier > with FreeBSD. > > As I have rolled out a lot of Linux solutions over the years...the > current project I have been awarded (City of Simla, Colorado IT > Infrastructure Changeout) will be first big project I have done going > pure FreeBSD on the server and on the desktop, instead of my old > paradigm of Linux. > > Because I still have Linux knowledge in my head...and being older...I > fear inadvertently "linuxizing" FreeBSD. I know there are some > similarities between the two technologies, I am also aware of some real > differences...such as proper setup and maintenance of a ZRaid under ZFS. > > This mailing list has been recommended by a fellow FreeBSD guru (whom I > met on the forums) who has helped me immensely in my own personal port > over to FreeBSD. > I simply want to use this group as a check of my deployment plans to > make sure I deploy FreeBSD in an orthodox manner. > > I don't know if there are email length limitations, frequency limits, or > what the culture is on this mailing list. > > I do not forsee a lot of issues, thus I don;t forsee a lot of emails > that I would generate. I've been in IT since the days of the Eniac and > acoustically coupled modems. While I may be experienced and seasoned...I > am very junior to FreeBSD....< 1 year as stated earlier. In reality I am > looking for assistance validating my plan to make sure it is FreeBSD in > style and best practice. I am NOT asking for others to do my work for > me...just validate it to ensure I stay within acceptable best practices > for FreeBSD. Said another way, I am looking for a litmus test for best > practice and protection against misapplication of FreeBSD. > > I do the formal walk-through with the City tomorrow (Monday the > 8th)...and I can then make the design and implementation plans on my end > before I litmus check it with this list. > > I would expect at some time to generate a chart, be that a DIA chart, or > some other charting software (feel free to recommend one), for drawing > up the new network architecture based upon my walk-through tomorrow. > > > More Q's: Are attachments allowed or not? PDF? or Native format? > > > Would someone in this mailing list please let me know what the culture > is and proper usage of this list is, and what is expected of me when I > generate an email to this list? > > > > Thank you! > > > Sincerely and respectfully, > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > As a fellow noob-2-FBSD (UNIX since 1986, Linux since 1995, FBSD for about 2 mos.), I can say the list is extremely knowledgable (sp?) & helpful, & quite tolerant of noob questions, at least for as long as I have been posting them (~6 weeks). I think you will be fine here .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 14:08:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88C674EA for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182DF11A0 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id oe8n1o003516WCc01e8qHM; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:08:50 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=fsVSZTIf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=OOzCJWdBeL0A:10 a=0R8PxKIE1KYA:10 a=F0HPXGjtK9kA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=N96l0QHW3whUqaKtV6QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lzMc082ZMwYA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XQzcL-0000dr-Mg; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:08:47 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:08:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3289227.doeQfn2zmQ@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.3-RELEASE; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3415139.ffIAe6AYm2@curlew.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: TRIM considerations when repartitioning a SSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Adam Vande More X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:08:53 -0000 On Thursday 28 Aug 2014 17:24:04 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Mike Clarke > > wrote: > > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE > > > > I may soon need to repartition a SSD which has a zpool on it and > > was wondering what is the best method of ensuring that all blocks > > get marked as no longer in use. > > > > Is gpart sufficiently TRIM aware to be able to just use gpart > > delete? > Extremely doubtful that it is. You generally must reset the drive > eg > > camcontrol security da4 -s buhbyesweetdata -e buhbyesweetdata I've tried this but it failed curlew:/root# uname -a FreeBSD curlew.lan 9.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #0 r268512: Thu Jul 10 23:44:39 UTC 2014 root@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 curlew:/root# camcontrol security ada0 -s buhbyesweetdata -e buhbyesweetdata pass1: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device pass1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA5, PIO 512bytes) You are about to ERASE ALL DATA from the following device: pass1,ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device Are you SURE you want to ERASE ALL DATA? (yes/no) yes Issuing SECURITY_SET_PASSWORD password='buhbyesweetdata', user='master', mode='high' Issuing SECURITY_ERASE_PREPARE Issuing SECURITY_ERASE_UNIT password='buhbyesweetdata', user='master' ata2: timeout waiting for write DRQ ata2: timeout waiting for write DRQ camcontrol: ATA SECURITY_ERASE_UNIT failed: 0 How do I get round this? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 15:39:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7E538D5; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12ED01E4F; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ty20so2817237lab.37 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gTeBojhxJIumREFY8IeDhPU+oBdiSm06s0cfq69Gx9M=; b=y6TY6ym3ElrZQbK55HzddyZvFLjP6qMH3VNftkuC8KQxdhUOG0qVRDGT6Bj/9AFgQB 66q8uiC8UwGYVEj1bK9rtS2r3313qJ08ElUayU2vrucVT7dfUVUlHQBGIWPI/Vmi7EvX fQmaymJX7BT/+CeIYolDk6fdm5BAfR3Y49ajkmthk/KbTjlDWWNE0+XBVWsoD8d9cAiq tHC+fPyax22AgfkzoujGc6PYByInPliXV74rdzSFlDGmGLJ9bGarLJ3+R2TAUhkwDc8v 1HQjRbC4pgQ/rT0lZt1zrK3C7Xs6dIW2eBG9h0AjHuppUR5xGwLarAO8MyDvudP+4Sbd aXiw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.114.227 with SMTP id jj3mr28514095lbb.39.1410190762898; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.166.211 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.166.211 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:39:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:39:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: Waitman Gobble To: CeDeROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:39:25 -0000 On Sep 8, 2014 1:01 AM, "CeDeROM" wrote: > > Hello world! :-) > > I am considering to buy Netgear PTV3000 [1] for wireless audio-video > streaming HDMI adapter. Does FreeBSD support any of the > WiDi/Miracast/WiFiDirect medium? It seems very very interesting portable > multiplatform solution :-) > > Best regards :-) > Tomek > > [1] > http://www.netgear.com/home/products/connected-entertainment/wireless-display-adapters/PTV3000.aspx > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Looks like openwfd could be modified to build on FreeBSD. Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 16:08:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55B28802 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 366E4126C for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:case@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s88G7qtV009441 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:07:55 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:07:52 +0000 (UTC) From: John Case X-X-Sender: case@faeroes.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can I make this simple ipfw ruleset more restrictive ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:08:07 -0000 I have a very simple firewall - it sits on the network border and it *blocks everything*, and the only traffic that is allowed is for internal clients to make outbound port 40 connections. Also internal clients can ping and traceroute. But that's it - no other connections in or out are allowed. I havet he following ruleset that is working perfectly: ipfw add 10 allow tcp from any to any established ipfw add 20 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,8,11 ipfw add 21 allow udp from any to any 33433-33499 in via fxp1 ipfw add 30 allow tcp from any to any 40 in via fxp1 (fxp1 is the *internal* interface, and so I allow the port 40 connections and the udp for traceroute only for requests that come in from the internal net) Is there anything I have screwed up here ? Any connections that can come in or out that I am trying to avoid ? Is there any way to lock this down any further ? Thanks very much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 16:19:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C275D21 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9BCC13A7 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ty20so2937155lab.9 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C6nPB2lhz4/W5yBbaD/AN80HxIHLBpMnu0M5DbNHDxk=; b=AE2BH6TSGyGVVffIhxPJjcFxPxYZqDdk0ZhvrHJFPPjEEtVLSBulKdFjrCGQ5y60sI seqbOq1FkvWj+0P2gSqVOejH9Yo/9yI0Szrf49WLuYgaUWmJdmFKAM4YyLyjcOP+Sejg jHI9q8NrbD156LS2QBFQ4wvxWT3phxhoBHbAm32TQYj+cTCwqRi61ghj49Y0T//HZU4I 0e25vxF2wv8jo6F5V6YG/Cas3DKhwHqQvr6m6UyumYe8GsD5wgAZRtB+O6fmrGCg1xIA pF9/PKYXiAhKY1OGvyjnuRctfMLhWQAGbkCk61W+YPniicx2IiJkf4KdhCm6/gXSJXvg Xvgg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQ0T0V5THSPu6OK3gpMV6rRrbDpV3q8ykG+fJzf3Rmq0VXGapQKr/GSleaD/f24cK8NfaR MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.10.41 with SMTP id f9mr30653349lab.25.1410193188695; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.219.106 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 8.4 - net/relayd won't start at boot but launches fine from rc.d, complains about missing libs From: Damien Fleuriot To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:19:58 -0000 Hello List, So, I've been stuck on this odd problem for a few days now and reinstalling a fresh host didn't help. /usr/local/sbin/relayd from net/relayd won't start at boot complaining about a missing OpenSSL library. It does start just fine when further invoked with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/relayd start At boot time, dmesg shows : ### dmesg -a Starting relayd. /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.8" not found, required by "relayd" /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start relayd ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/local/lib ldconfig correctly shows the incriminated library as per : ### ldconfig -r 91:-lssl.6 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 109:-lssl.8 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 Additionally the relayd binary itself shows what looks like correct linking to the library : ### ldd /usr/local/sbin/relayd /usr/local/sbin/relayd: libmd.so.5 => /lib/libmd.so.5 (0x800678000) libssl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 (0x800788000) libcrypto.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.8 (0x8008f0000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800bdf000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x800e18000) pkg info confirms the library was installed by openssl : ### pkg which /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 was installed by package openssl-1.0.1_14 Thus far, I have tried, to no avail : - entirely reinstall the host - reinstall openssl - reinstall relayd How to fix : ln -s /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 /usr/lib/ ln -s /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.8 /lib/ ldconfig -r now says : ### ldconfig -r 92:-lssl.6 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 108:-lssl.8 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.8 111:-lssl.8 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.8 ldd now says : ### ldd /usr/local/sbin/relayd /usr/local/sbin/relayd: libmd.so.5 => /lib/libmd.so.5 (0x800678000) libssl.so.8 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.8 (0x800788000) libcrypto.so.8 => /lib/libcrypto.so.8 (0x8008f0000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800bdf000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x800e18000) The host itself is installed with base openssl + openssl 1.0.1 from ports. Openssl from ports is required by nginx and NRPE so I have to make do with it (and yes, I know it's outdated, this is a test box). Again, relayd starts just fine from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ when I log into the box, it's just at boot that it won't, without moving symbolic links around. Has anyone else experienced the same issues ? I find the behaviour quite odd and definitely misleading here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 16:21:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B0DEC3; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.172.220.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.me.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Extended Validation SSL SGC CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB11514B3; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fukuyama.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (unknown [73.162.13.215]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NBL005O1C4D6P20@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com>; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:21:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-09-08_03:2014-09-08,2014-09-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1409080140 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1973.6\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: Rui Paulo In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:21:48 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-id: <042D853C-F703-4B76-AA28-632B5F55C8D3@me.com> References: To: CeDeROM X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1973.6) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:21:53 -0000 On Sep 8, 2014, at 01:01, CeDeROM wrote: > > Hello world! :-) > > I am considering to buy Netgear PTV3000 [1] for wireless audio-video > streaming HDMI adapter. Does FreeBSD support any of the > WiDi/Miracast/WiFiDirect medium? No, it's not supported. -- Rui Paulo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 16:41:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1758905; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x232.google.com (mail-oa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E9CE1881; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id o6so10763393oag.37 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zmB242tGei/GzjTSTFowwwg6ppmfplFh3zBH/Getw1o=; b=hedgjMkJ1sLillAMSQYR3gN9IAzy+MLrCel4cvb7FnbLRMZZz6BEBg3OPiHnzi3mjQ f9vQFkQzUuu1k3OZgm7VYG4NCbMObkUv9NQOav9wCBk/LcYT3Zbgl9DA+JL7z+nM7lNV 88JvOvThU6Og97/n4J5t8fDAhLsTvlnOWpggbT53KDrcTN6EJLfbzUW/nUd5AFHTH4OJ 9ydZkTXrSwDuqbfDwLhMJOkJCS7iWIl8a+vw9MVW55nr0hpChJLua8aUBp1Q2wnFibYD 0Bou7/WFlp8Qn6U5CziqGF4UIyQq+qtvKnUVatJm+H1Mr13rRVcwbmJOhsiGTnfL0tmJ uHug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.29.200 with SMTP id m8mr32984966obh.13.1410194490881; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.48.15 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:41:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Y8xEgx-KyJc4OMPLLot9OGPSGw8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: CeDeROM To: Waitman Gobble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:41:32 -0000 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Looks like openwfd could be modified to build on FreeBSD. > Waitman Tanks! Nice hint! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 18:56:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C53E2D92 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FCA71A65 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id x12so3560147wgg.13 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:56:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:to:message-id:mime-version; bh=3BRuldFacNertsLfV0ew+YJ7ulkhuod3IdEKgmXyuzQ=; b=vGXnc9rOnOL7JnfqCF5aUp5vxIeMkJDCAm70JAoF484liWwIfOGURHCNXL5JvI30P/ cz1hRwD2hqZBD+vRMGmi8/KUB6kPF6gc5WR6wcvYU7H+aJCYbPUV0hXECJ2Vxl19U03T gvmdvw1nc0l2YxESIXOLrArpE2JAp+NHpNm4yWecQFiT3UH+HuMlI7OlIY0Ymx2TMN4F NZyHfcJwkWmRZ3SCu2lMDlgoeI39NWASdl8TtjF9VzHzLErmwb5f4bBU6riuvqz7lBUe azydfYiBIZXwO9eenTIiwI7ToJo9/wErud9l9Hnqdlk3uyZ8SiTi4EI0HDsKas4lPaYo sxkQ== X-Received: by 10.194.95.8 with SMTP id dg8mr37827132wjb.1.1410202582452; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbpdeemmanuelle.bouyguesbox.fr (89-92-194-171.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr. [89.92.194.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lh11sm12701877wic.17.2014.09.08.11.56.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emmanuelle_Delouv=E9e?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C6867C6B-A91E-4712-811C-53B26C3499A4" X-Priority: 1 Subject: MCA errors Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:56:19 +0200 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 18:56:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C6867C6B-A91E-4712-811C-53B26C3499A4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please, examine the `MCA' error messages in the attached files: MCA-errors_dmesg.txt MCA-errors_messages.txt Q: - do they indicate a hardware problem? (RAM? CPU? other?) - consequence(s) for the OS? - how to fix? Thanks --Apple-Mail=_C6867C6B-A91E-4712-811C-53B26C3499A4 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MCA-errors_dmesg.txt Content-Type: text/plain; x-unix-mode=0777; name="MCA-errors_dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ## see--> MCA: CPU [...] internal parity error ## at end of file. #---/var/log/dmesg.today---BEGIN Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights = reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0 r255898: Fri Sep 27 03:52:52 UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (3398.10-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x306c3 Family =3D 0x6 Model =3D = 0x3c Stepping =3D 3 = Features=3D0xbfebfbff = Features2=3D0x77fafbff,FMA,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,TSCDLT= ,AESNI,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> AMD Features=3D0x2c100000 AMD Features2=3D0x21 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory =3D 3618459648 (3450 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 [...] acpi0: on motherboard ACPI Error: [RAMB] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND = (20110527/psargs-392) ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, Could not execute arguments for [RAMW] = (Region) (20110527/nsinit-380) [...] Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada1p2 [rw]... MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 7 MCA: CPU 7 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 6 MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 2 MCA: CPU 2 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 0 MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 7 MCA: CPU 7 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 6 MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 6 MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error #---/var/log/dmesg.today---END --Apple-Mail=_C6867C6B-A91E-4712-811C-53B26C3499A4 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MCA-errors_messages.txt Content-Type: text/plain; x-unix-mode=0777; name="MCA-errors_messages.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ## see--> iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU [...] internal parity error ## at end of file. #---/var/log/messages---BEGIN [...] Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0 r255898: Fri Sep 27 = 03:52:52 UTC 2013 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: = root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched = [FreeBSD] Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ = 3.40GHz (3398.10-MHz 686-class CPU) Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x306c3 = Family =3D 0x6 Model =3D 0x3c Stepping =3D 3 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: = Features=3D0xbfebfbff Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: = Features2=3D0x77fafbff,FMA,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,TSCDLT= ,AESNI,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: AMD = Features=3D0x2c100000 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: AMD Features2=3D0x21 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: TSC: P-state invariant, performance = statistics Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: real memory =3D 8589934592 (8192 MB) Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: avail memory =3D 3618459648 (3450 MB) Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System = Detected: 8 CPUs Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) x 2 = SMT threads Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 [...] Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: ACPI Error: [RAMB] Namespace lookup = failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20110527/psargs-392) Sep 6 22:46:54 iBSD kernel: ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, Could not = execute arguments for [RAMW] (Region) (20110527/nsinit-380) [...] Sep 6 23:46:17 iBSD login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 7 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 7 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 6 Sep 7 02:14:16 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:15:08 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:15:08 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:15:08 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 2 Sep 7 02:15:08 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 2 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:15:37 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:15:37 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:15:37 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 0 Sep 7 02:15:37 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 7 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 7 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 6 Sep 7 02:20:21 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error Sep 7 02:26:58 iBSD kernel: MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 Sep 7 02:26:58 iBSD kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status = 0x0000000000000000 Sep 7 02:26:58 iBSD kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, = APIC ID 6 Sep 7 02:26:58 iBSD kernel: MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error [...] #---/var/log/messages---END --Apple-Mail=_C6867C6B-A91E-4712-811C-53B26C3499A4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 20:44:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 324F9113 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.g16.pair.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f440::4227:4116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F64C1A21 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (c-71-60-227-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.227.57]) by mail1.g16.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DD2F5C6E; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:44:21 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Emmanuelle =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Delouv=E9e?= Subject: Re: MCA errors Message-ID: <20140908164421.639972fe@atomizer> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:44:33 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:56:19 +0200 Emmanuelle Delouv=C3=A9e wrote: > Please, examine the `MCA' error messages > in the attached files: > MCA-errors_dmesg.txt > MCA-errors_messages.txt >=20 > Q: - do they indicate a hardware problem? > (RAM? CPU? other?) > - consequence(s) for the OS? > - how to fix? I had this a few years ago. Failing RAM. Replace the RAM is the only fix. --=20 Rod http://www.rodperson.com He who knows himself to be one way and pretends it is another way is a thief who robs his own soul. The Mahabharata Sakuntala 25 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 21:12:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3113947 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DCB11D61 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-205.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s88LCD2F021534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: <540E1D24.5090407@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:18:28 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: here we go again w/ pkg .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:12:21 -0000 I am still having trouble getting pkgng to upgrade my system like I *think* it should based on the man page & prior list advice: [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:10:36pm] 387 % rm -f /var/db/pkg/repo-* /var/db/pkg/*.meta [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:10:42pm] 388 % pkg clean -a pkg: Repository FreeBSD missing. 'pkg update' required pkg: No package database installed. Nothing to do! [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:10:47pm] 389 % in 1 window, then: [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:07:24pm] 567 % pkg update Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... Fetching meta.txz: 100% 964 B 1.0k/s 00:01 Fetching digests.txz: 100% 2 MB 409.1k/s 00:05 Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MB 380.4k/s 00:14 Processing new repository entries: 100% FreeBSD repository update completed. 23519 packages processed: 0 updated, 0 removed and 23519 added. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... Fetching meta.txz: 100% 968 B 1.0k/s 00:01 Fetching digests.txz: 100% 68 kB 70.3k/s 00:01 Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 190 kB 195.1k/s 00:01 Processing new repository entries: 100% FreeBSD_new_xorg repository update completed. 788 packages processed: 0 updated, 0 removed and 788 added. whew !!!! that took (27.053 cpu + 2.365 sys) sec., 0:52.20 elapsed time tot, 56.3% CPU efficiency (208 text, 2559 data, 46464 max) KB, (0+1543) io, 0 pfs + 0 swaps [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:47pm] 568 % [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:53pm] 568 % [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:53pm] 568 % pkg version -vIL= curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index has 7.37.1_3) gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index has 2.24.22_4) libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index has 0.1.6_1) pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index has 1.34.1_7) portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index has 3.17.7) readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index has 6.3.8) [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:57pm] 569 % pkg version -vRL= Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 dri-9.1.7_4,2 > succeeds remote (remote has 7.6.1_4,2) libGL-9.1.7_1 > succeeds remote (remote has 7.6.1_4) libdrm-2.4.52,1 > succeeds remote (remote has 2.4.17_1,1) linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: textproc/linux-f10-expat linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: www/opera-linuxplugins xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_3 > succeeds remote (remote has 2.7.1_8) xorg-server-1.12.4_8,1 > succeeds remote (remote has 1.7.7_13,1) [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:12:03pm] 570 % pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (257 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:12:09pm] 571 % So I removed all lingering meta data, updated that, checked for updates, it said there were some, tried to do the actual upgrade, & it says nothing to do .... I hope this is pilot error, but I am stumped .... *any* help appreciated .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 21:25:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41372EB5 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB9EB1EC2 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id x12so2867517wgg.2 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rn8gZd5Uh98abYj5vrF20IBB/PLgalbtSGnsRcgjaYo=; b=WO++SHIFfFPHK8R9ccUVKH4D53Db8vGdTsrE3r+tVchRbEQdZdBhPjvRVYzTSVsVJA XMhq67HjchAJ7Hs+tXABfGJV6Iz+GxuZolA7WxSGSW/1/y4vu23p9NhF0WigrIEpkoCY BrvDO1sHoS2h2ZrI4uBLOcfCH3TkI1cz/B5zuDHA3EVHXGyjkpQOr/sU3IVmLqSfzQC/ w46/SdGBvtWYZVN8a9zbzl1UlicK5djHPPidop75xaIXAsdf9AUVPTdLQmawwqDQIYS1 prax6nSmBk56LUAZKB3j+RegORVln8uP14jkK41To4Z9iVVuaYDH5JBDt8BPXLlZzIjf pHow== X-Received: by 10.194.23.8 with SMTP id i8mr6949859wjf.104.1410211545728; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (2e40c581.skybroadband.com. [46.64.197.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eh3sm13105304wic.4.2014.09.08.14.25.44 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:25:43 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TRIM considerations when repartitioning a SSD Message-ID: <20140908222543.78ce723a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <3289227.doeQfn2zmQ@curlew.lan> References: <3415139.ffIAe6AYm2@curlew.lan> <3289227.doeQfn2zmQ@curlew.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:25:48 -0000 On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:08:26 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2014 17:24:04 Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Mike Clarke > > > > wrote: > > > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE > > > > > > I may soon need to repartition a SSD which has a zpool on it and > > > was wondering what is the best method of ensuring that all blocks > > > get marked as no longer in use. > > > > > > Is gpart sufficiently TRIM aware to be able to just use gpart > > > delete? > > Extremely doubtful that it is. You generally must reset the drive > > eg > > > > camcontrol security da4 -s buhbyesweetdata -e buhbyesweetdata > > I've tried this but it failed newfs -tE will trim the free space on the UFS filesystem it creates. Even if you don't want UFS, you could run it on the raw drive, the difference is most likely negligible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 21:37:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72D4A411 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:44:76:96:27:211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527681FF8 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id olT11o0031GXsucABldhrr; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:37:41 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oldf1o00F3nhSLa8Uldg7z; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:37:40 +0000 Message-ID: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:37:36 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A litmus check request Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080808070105090108060900" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410212261; bh=zltIGeQxlMGJadM4N+1dRF5t4SajetgtsaomOwqeN2E=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Kc0gNpf5Y0Ft/REVEeydgH6Lv4bnI5VJzbC5UMUjQDpbldbXIm2N6Wnxtcaa5WkVi 7auAN+05uF9LllZ1gTw3zhCMxpbOkgYoxcPBowrZ43LMoJRsv8Lj/yxVg4ZxNNKymt oStMpjrJZBNBA91BxY4LyakWnkWBc2gpgk6C7nCtDPVKYUQXzhJS72cOXJzt22FHO9 /2YSqdZlo8UgEGteD+N3L221klafiqCitPLIj2+9ZARAdUwijIVg7XHjDg/oAS86o4 m830Vf0j7K0zC0FxR+P+rMa1ziiuTbA+a+984RLomWsl6M76dMyTM5XgIQNDvkEz/d Kec8KUv9ImTQA== X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:37:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080808070105090108060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am about to do a lot of compiling. My copy of FreeBSD10.0 x64 P7 runs on a 1TB Samsung EVO. I used wblock's excellent articles to set it all up so that trim was utilized. I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and validate for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate files, or ".o" files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to protect the SSD. The ramdisk is where I run Code::Blocks from, and I have a bash script handling everything. However, I build kernels frequently, and am about to embark on a recently awarded QT project for a municipality. In this fstab I have moved /usr/obj to tmpfs..... Can someone more experienced than me in FreeBSD offer commentary if this setup will keep intermediate and temporary object files in ram (tmpfs), rather than beat up my SSD with a bunch of small writes? I am not worried about running out of ram...I have 32Gb of it installed... Thanks you! 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CPU? other?) > - consequence(s) for the OS? > - how to fix? It appears that you're running a Haswell CPU. Are you running anything that may use VT-x (e.g. VirtualBox, bhyve) on this machine? >From my kernel log: ----8<---- CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 v3 @ 3.40GHz (3392.50-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x306c3 Family = 0x6 Model = 0x3c Stepping = 3 [...] MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 6 MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005 MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c09, Status 0x0000000000000000 MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 6 MCA: CPU 6 COR (1) internal parity error ----8<---- This only happens when I'm running a VM in VirtualBox; regardless, the machine is rock solid. My research leads me to believe it's a bug in Haswell's VT-x implementation. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 22:49:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78B6330D for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:250:56ff:feb0:2995]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46FDC63378 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id omPg1o00C16AWCU01mmYwY; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:46:32 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ommX1o00F3nhSLa8SmmXYN; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:46:32 +0000 Message-ID: <540E31C4.7010906@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:46:28 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Terminal Server Software Question DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410216392; bh=fYRQSGGjIZa1S2RC209JJZepF3BcWR29DBY4c6U3lpE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=NwbuOxwEdGrXGURaKhDG/axkJLDuDkLFrOgDx7TRXOUY6Awiv29DKhEbQvaP75sF/ vvkeaPpEQRo0A2peiGmUUa4W4dpitS7HDoo0DGdg6jYj7XTM9ef4qrPFb08Sdo3Wqk UkJ0RqNZNhcfBfmw6YpWQ09tL0n6k3lhgOfTG6ZDgHBvZs3uruO5Ta8A2v3P4fbEiG uvCfIMFDTtAdm2VKIq3thdLtncP0OhsMTqgBUqaKQ2l1ev4qsYyi0eO07PoZeGkaSf pRYVmdLqsprw7Fl0dvzU9bVNyfZemKwP5S2+4StIYfjzsUoOhPpJHtMS+3UsMSQbPr L/PSefHc1n0uw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:49:54 -0000 My new project will be firt in all FreeBSD. Prior I have deployed Linux server/client solutions. I've been on FreeBSD 6-7 months and am very comfortable with it. However, in ports, I do not see the no machine server, nor the x2go server. I see the clients, but not the servers. What are folks using when they need the functional equivalent of a Windows Terminal Server, if not nx or x2go? My new project needs to be a graphical server. The new model will be a bunch of thin clinets attached to one server. (6 users top, it's small) Suggestions please (other than VNC)? Thanks! Sincerely and respectfully, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 23:25:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97D63F21 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2199B5ED for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s88MsqOD065732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:54:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s88MsqOD065732 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s88MsqOD065732; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <540E33BB.9000606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:54:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A litmus check request References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrUb4qm5b4rFSMbJe1LNq7H2q99Bx70GD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:25:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lrUb4qm5b4rFSMbJe1LNq7H2q99Bx70GD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/09/2014 22:37, Dave Babb wrote: > I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and validate= > for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate files, or ".o= " > files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to protect the SSD. That should work pretty well. However what's your swapinfo say? If you do happen to fill up RAM with your tmpfs, you'll end up swapping a bunch of memory pages out to the swap area, and if your swap is on the SSD, then you've pretty much defeated the object of the whole exercise. That aside, it looks good. If it's possible, adding noatime to the tmpfs mount flags will help with performance. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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References: <540E1D24.5090407@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <540E1D24.5090407@hiwaay.net> OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j9vughoGajdG6b7J7Eea4l4clP02ANE7p" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:25:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --j9vughoGajdG6b7J7Eea4l4clP02ANE7p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/09/2014 22:18, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:53pm] 568 % pkg version -vIL=3D > curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index has 7.37.1= _3) > gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index has 2.24.2= 2_4) > libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index has 0.1.6_= 1) > pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index has 1.34.1= _7) > portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index has 3.17.7= ) > readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index has 6.3.8)= > [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:57pm] 569 % pkg version -vRL=3D > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 > dri-9.1.7_4,2 > succeeds remote (remote has > 7.6.1_4,2) > libGL-9.1.7_1 > succeeds remote (remote has 7.6.= 1_4) > libdrm-2.4.52,1 > succeeds remote (remote has > 2.4.17_1,1) > linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: textproc/linux-f10-exp= at > linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: > x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: x11/linux-f10-xorg-lib= s > opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: www/opera-linuxplugins= > xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_3 > succeeds remote (remote has 2.7.= 1_8) > xorg-server-1.12.4_8,1 > succeeds remote (remote has > 1.7.7_13,1) It's the 'pkg version -vRL=3D' output which is pertinent when you're trying to update using binary packages from the repository. In this case it is clear that you have already upgraded (by portmaster(8) or otherwise) using a more recent ports tree -- probably not the one with the INDEX that shows some out of date packages. There simply aren't any /newer/ binary packages available that what you already have installed, so pkg(8) doesn't do anything. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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I am not worried about the size, I am worried about the number of writes. I tend to write my software modularly...so I don;t think this latest project is going to be too heavy on the ram either. I'll add the noatime flag to the tmpfs mounts.....I wasn't aware that you could have additional flags on their mounts..... Thank You very much for the reply...I really appreciate it. Sincerely and respectfully, Dave On 09/08/14 16:54, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/09/2014 22:37, Dave Babb wrote: >> I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and validate >> for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate files, or ".o" >> files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to protect the SSD. > That should work pretty well. However what's your swapinfo say? If you > do happen to fill up RAM with your tmpfs, you'll end up swapping a bunch > of memory pages out to the swap area, and if your swap is on the SSD, > then you've pretty much defeated the object of the whole exercise. > > That aside, it looks good. If it's possible, adding noatime to the > tmpfs mount flags will help with performance. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 23:45:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97EAE5BC; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in5.apple.com (mail-out5.apple.com [17.151.62.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DF9A83B; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail-in5.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 55.01.17540.38F3E045; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:45:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay3.apple.com ([17.128.113.83]) by local.mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NBL00713WMICNW0@local.mail-out.apple.com>; Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:45:07 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e13-f793e6d000004484-09-540e3f8398b6 Received: from [17.149.227.93] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.227.93]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay3.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 8F.26.08757.68F3E045; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A litmus check request From: Charles Swiger In-reply-to: <540E33BB.9000606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:44:34 -0700 Message-id: References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> <540E33BB.9000606@FreeBSD.org> To: Matthew Seaman , dcbdbis@comcast.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OULfZni/E4PZCPYuXXzexWLy+9p/N gcljxqf5LAGMUVw2Kak5mWWpRfp2CVwZ+3/dYyq4wlXx/6xEA+NOji5GTg4JAROJm5snMkPY YhIX7q1n62Lk4hASmMUkcXx+KwtIgldAUOLH5HtANgcHs4C8xMHzsiBhZgEtie+PQEpA6puY JNZsvswGM3Ta0ldQg3qZJLZ+OscG0iwsoCzxvFUcxGQTUJOYMJEHpJxTQFvi/IxTYKtYBFQl Dm+4zwgxX1ei6cZbRogTrCRWNc0Bs4UEPCWW/+phArFFBGwl1i/ZB3W/vMSHD8fZQdZKCPxm lWj69otxAqPwLCQvzEJ4YRaSFxYwMq9iFMpNzMzRzcwz1UssKMhJ1UvOz93ECAll4R2Mp1dZ HWIU4GBU4uFNuMoTIsSaWFZcmXuIUZqDRUmcl9OOL0RIID2xJDU7NbUgtSi+qDQntfgQIxMH p1QDo15x8pL1V6PvruQ78+A2C9ej1mnCy1TrxKd6rdiy731UxFTbHI6SjXJhx173GHmtnciU 9W1HNLeLiuTyCSc5nzlJBUowdD00+XN087OW+Sz24QvYzOYfuVkntWnjLLH70XlVD1eHKvJv +9a2dp9nr0/qe2kJYyYxRbFtZfV511NfT7/h9PiLixJLcUaioRZzUXEiAEz0GcpGAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPVxrG67PV+IwYZOLotrk1ksXn7dxGLx +tp/Ngdmj8mP5zB6zPg0nyWAKYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY/+ve0wFV7gq/p+VaGDcydHFyMkh IWAiMW3pKzYIW0ziwr31QDYXh5BAL5PE8V2/WEESzAJaEjf+vWQCsXkFDCSW7NrE3MXIwSEs oCzxvFUcxGQTUJOYMJEHpIJTQFvi4LZDzCA2i4CKxLw/u6Gm6Eo03XjLCGHLS2x/O4cZYqKV ROvvjewgtpCAp8TyXz1gm0QE7CXudf9ggThNXuLDh+PsExj5ZyE5aBaSg2YhGbuAkXkVo0BR ak5ipbFeYkFBTqpecn7uJkZQ2DUUBu9g/LPM6hCjAAejEg8vx2WeECHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoi vH7WfCFCvCmJlVWpRfnxRaU5qcWHGKU5WJTEeae/5AgREkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CyTJxcEo1MLpp l4sqqa6ZfH/2fvFb7EL3psvL3L7zsT8yaIldjlb1lWmHxH+9+F5jv2VVXu+HaJsZe62N7m9+ d8RqeY4599q9v7R2PvO/umx9AbOTGt+3O+eE1n1Z9inXUKXFicfn3k8zC04/xt+zOneGmrFv P7C9bmcba3TY+RVF7I8qt8jEii2Xm3NRQ1SJpTgj0VCLuag4EQAIu0bhNwIAAA== Cc: FreeBSD - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:45:08 -0000 On Sep 8, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/09/2014 22:37, Dave Babb wrote: >> I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and validate >> for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate files, or ".o" >> files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to protect the SSD. > > That should work pretty well. However what's your swapinfo say? If you > do happen to fill up RAM with your tmpfs, you'll end up swapping a bunch > of memory pages out to the swap area, and if your swap is on the SSD, > then you've pretty much defeated the object of the whole exercise. While it's certainly true that being able to keep tmpfs entirely in RAM is highly desirable, it's likely that hitting an SSD for swap would generate less wear on the drive than writing compiler temp files directly. Sure, you don't really want to swap onto an SSD if you can help it, but paging and swapping activities are generally page-aligned, and so they cause less write amplification than filesystem writes are likely to cause. > That aside, it looks good. If it's possible, adding noatime to the > tmpfs mount flags will help with performance. Sure. Also feeding -pipe to the compilers will try to use pipelines between the stages of the toolchain rather than temp files. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 00:05:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F1384C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:44:76:96:27:243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32959DC for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 00:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id onhx1o0021ZMdJ4ADo5RnR; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 00:05:25 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oo5K1o00D3nhSLa8co5Nsq; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 00:05:23 +0000 Message-ID: <540E443C.1040702@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 18:05:16 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tmpfs and noatime heads up DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410221125; bh=PD4xsw/v7xeQtn9UPiKFrqgu6bdowC1gHPR2zq9+4aM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=C4+6WL66ChVP1NNWVswH2cjp/5+d4kEpeXUj+RpssPKBJEljLcDMxlVdVkBvsAW3H 6XEclHrdg+vLZOw5kLTftdeGp2phxwYxwpR9aIbCphsJt4zqPDlHxLEhrqRkFq6ej3 yi/CycYlKQ+XGi1mprlP8m16EYWyff+4T/4Jar5Iu7ic7dB7QvSbAKDn7rsjHl1nSO IO2QhvSI2gqA6DyG1R5KT7s0hyjPy4HLXii6R3BW4GCNr7DYnnmP//BAXlta1ohEMu Wr9WUwBOlAqxy666jFvmAYB/qkAw2Z0vKKzyF+AgcdgorO8/1Kxdq89LfGepBZHATz Y1sL8ntdAZ45w== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 00:05:25 -0000 I added the noatime option to my fstab where the tempfs entries were.... FreeBSD didn't like it and dropped me out to single user mode upon reboot with the appropriate warning of "invalid mount option". I removed the noatime flags for my tempfs entries, rebooted, and all came back up as it should be. No harm done.....Just an FYI that the tmpfs (at least on my system) doesn't support the noatime flag.... Anyway...an FYI! Sincerely and respectfully, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 03:12:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F13EFD7 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 03:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067791FE4 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 03:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp118-210-249-247.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.249.247]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2014 12:37:42 +0930 Message-ID: <540E6E96.4060206@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:35:58 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Babb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminal Server Software Question References: <540E31C4.7010906@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <540E31C4.7010906@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 03:12:09 -0000 On 09/09/2014 08:16, Dave Babb wrote: > My new project will be firt in all FreeBSD. Prior I have deployed Linux > server/client solutions. I've been on FreeBSD 6-7 months and am very > comfortable with it. > > However, in ports, I do not see the no machine server, nor the x2go > server. I see the clients, but not the servers. > > What are folks using when they need the functional equivalent of a > Windows Terminal Server, if not nx or x2go? > > My new project needs to be a graphical server. The new model will be a > bunch of thin clinets attached to one server. (6 users top, it's small) > > Suggestions please (other than VNC)? X11/Xorg? With xdm you can login to the server that runs the apps and have all windows drawn locally. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html You can also ssh to the server with ForwardX11 enabled to run a single app and have it's windows drawn locally. That's assuming FreeBSD/Linux at both ends. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Serving Data Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 03:31:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F256544A for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 03:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD1A32D5 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 03:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-205.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s893V7Tk003323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <540E75F2.7060709@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:37:22 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: here we go again w/ pkg .... References: <540E1D24.5090407@hiwaay.net> <540E31C0.8060808@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <540E31C0.8060808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 03:31:10 -0000 On 09/08/14 17:46, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 08/09/2014 22:18, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:53pm] 568 % pkg version -vIL= >> curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index has 7.37.1_3) >> gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index has 2.24.22_4) >> libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index has 0.1.6_1) >> pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index has 1.34.1_7) >> portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index has 3.17.7) >> readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index has 6.3.8) >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 4:11:57pm] 569 % pkg version -vRL= >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. >> All repositories are up-to-date. >> db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 >> dri-9.1.7_4,2 > succeeds remote (remote has >> 7.6.1_4,2) >> libGL-9.1.7_1 > succeeds remote (remote has 7.6.1_4) >> libdrm-2.4.52,1 > succeeds remote (remote has >> 2.4.17_1,1) >> linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: textproc/linux-f10-expat >> linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: >> x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig >> linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs >> opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: www/opera-linuxplugins >> xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_3 > succeeds remote (remote has 2.7.1_8) >> xorg-server-1.12.4_8,1 > succeeds remote (remote has >> 1.7.7_13,1) > It's the 'pkg version -vRL=' output which is pertinent when you're > trying to update using binary packages from the repository. In this > case it is clear that you have already upgraded (by portmaster(8) or > otherwise) using a more recent ports tree -- probably not the one with > the INDEX that shows some out of date packages. There simply aren't any > /newer/ binary packages available that what you already have installed, > so pkg(8) doesn't do anything. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > I didn't do an actual ports update, just checked, using: portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' .... I guess that's enough to mess up pkg ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 05:27:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 743C6CBD for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 05:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com (mri-mail.musicreports.com [38.98.50.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52444F08 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 05:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mri-mail.musicreports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AEE5688058 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mri-mail.musicreports.com Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mri-mail.musicreports.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2keDAHLXuCyS for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com (mri-mail.musicreports.com [192.168.20.65]) by mri-mail.musicreports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B915688056 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 22:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "James D. Parra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <405098918.20787549.1410240011151.JavaMail.root@musicreports.com> In-Reply-To: <2076734718.20787409.1410237009712.JavaMail.root@musicreports.com> Subject: creating a raid1 with single system drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.10.101] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.4_GA_2900 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.2.4_GA_2900) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 05:27:56 -0000 Hello, Installed FreeBSD on a single disk with ZFS with the zpool status showing; # zpool status pool: tank0 state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 I wish to add an identical disk to create a raid1 array. A list of the drives shows; ll /dev/ad* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 110 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 115 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 117 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 119 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1d crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 112 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 121 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 126 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 128 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1b crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 130 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1d crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 132 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1e I installed the OS on the second disk as well so the partitions would be the same. However, something doesn't appear correct. NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1s1e ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) # gpart show => 63 1953525105 ada0 MBR (931G) 63 1953 - free - (976k) 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) => 0 1953523152 ada0s1 BSD (931G) 0 2097152 1 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) 2097152 809500672 2 freebsd-swap (386G) 811597824 1141925328 4 freebsd-zfs (544G) => 63 1953525105 ada1 MBR (931G) 63 1953 - free - (976k) 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) => 0 1953523152 ada1s1 BSD (931G) 0 4096000 1 freebsd-ufs (2G) 4096000 4096000 2 freebsd-swap (2G) 8192000 4194304 4 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) 12386304 1941136848 5 freebsd-ufs (925G) Although, the disks are identical, the installation partitioned them differently. What is the best way to create a zfs raid1 for the system drive by adding the second drive after the install? Thank you, James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 10:10:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5AA3AF4 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp25.services.sfr.fr (smtp25.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F4DFE for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [109.15.114.149]) by msfrf2519.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 10DC5700008F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: sfrmc.priv.atos.fr; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none (no policy) header.from=listjm@club-internet.fr Received: from [192.168.1.67] (149.114.15.109.rev.sfr.net [109.15.114.149]) by msfrf2519.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C62557000081 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:03:01 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20140909100301811.C62557000081@msfrf2519.sfr.fr Message-ID: <540ED049.8010602@club-internet.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:02:49 +0200 From: Juan =?iso-8859-1?b?UmFt824=?= Molina Menor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: here we go again w/ pkg .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 10:10:12 -0000 > On 09/08/14 17:46, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >/ On 08/09/2014 22:18, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > />>/ root at kabini1 , /etc, 4:11:53pm] 568 % pkg version -vIL= > />>/ curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index has 7.37.1_3) > />>/ gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index has 2.24.22_4) > />>/ libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index has 0.1.6_1) > />>/ pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index has 1.34.1_7) > />>/ portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index has 3.17.7) > />>/ readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index has 6.3.8) > />>/ [root at kabini1 , /etc, 4:11:57pm] 569 % pkg version -vRL= > />>/ Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > />>/ FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > />>/ Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... > />>/ FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. > />>/ All repositories are up-to-date. > />>/ db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 > />>/ dri-9.1.7_4,2 > succeeds remote (remote has > />>/ 7.6.1_4,2) > />>/ libGL-9.1.7_1 > succeeds remote (remote has 7.6.1_4) > />>/ libdrm-2.4.52,1 > succeeds remote (remote has > />>/ 2.4.17_1,1) > />>/ linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: textproc/linux-f10-expat > />>/ linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: > />>/ x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig > />>/ linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs > />>/ opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: www/opera-linuxplugins > />>/ xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_3 > succeeds remote (remote has 2.7.1_8) > />>/ xorg-server-1.12.4_8,1 > succeeds remote (remote has > />>/ 1.7.7_13,1) > />/ It's the 'pkg version -vRL=' output which is pertinent when you're > />/ trying to update using binary packages from the repository. In this > />/ case it is clear that you have already upgraded (by portmaster(8) or > />/ otherwise) using a more recent ports tree -- probably not the one with > />/ the INDEX that shows some out of date packages. There simply aren't any > />/ /newer/ binary packages available that what you already have installed, > />/ so pkg(8) doesn't do anything. > />/ > />/ Cheers, > />/ > />/ Matthew > />/ > / > > > I didn't do an actual ports update, just checked, using: portmaster -L > |/ egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' .... I guess that's enough to > /mess up pkg ? Why do you persist on the idea there is something messed up? You have a ports tree showing updated versions of some ports and official package repositories which are temporarily lagging behind, thats all! Hope it helps, Juan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 12:20:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D76E334 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00EA312F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FD833CD98; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:20:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89CKLp5002211; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:20:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:20:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: Terminal Server Software Question Message-Id: <20140909142020.976d1442.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <540E31C4.7010906@comcast.net> References: <540E31C4.7010906@comcast.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:20:32 -0000 On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:46:28 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > My new project needs to be a graphical server. The new model will be a > bunch of thin clinets attached to one server. (6 users top, it's small) You can use "plain X". Most thin clients are able to talk to a remote X system. You would have to install and set up xdm and configure the network accordingly. See 6.6.4. here: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-xdm.html You can find examples here: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/X_Windows_Terminal Depending on what the thin clients run internally, there might be some configuration work, but in most cases, they "just work" (TM) as long as you haven't done anything stupid. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 13:28:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C9862D0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kulturflatrate.net (mail.kulturflatrate.net [46.163.119.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED65CAC0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kulturflatrate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7E5F5AC0DA for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:21:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at kulturflatrate.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.kulturflatrate.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kulturflatrate.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mjkv71tD2OE2 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.39] (175.210.broadband18.iol.cz [109.81.210.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kulturflatrate.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54A0CF5AC0C5 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:21:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:22:00 +0200 From: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ZFS, Jails, network, routing, domains and IP addresses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:28:22 -0000 Hi, I am not an educated computer scientist but got in touch with UNIX and Linux quite early. Since then I ran several servers and am somehow finding my way through the IT world by readings lots of blogs, articles and mailing lists about the topic as a hobby. At the moment I am running a root server at some provider who I don't like anymore (this has its reasons) and would like to switch the provider. Because this will be some work in any event I thought about simultaneously switching from Debian to FreeBSD since this is something I would like to do for quite some time. The main reasons for switching to FreeBSD are jails and the ports system. My question concerns jails and the set-up I thought about. If you have any thoughts about it please just give me some short hints and I'll be very happy about that. :-) So, the future server has 48 GB of RAM and 2 2TB HDDs. I thought about installing FreeBSD 10 with ZFS (on /) mirroring both HDDs. (I already did that set-up smaller and virtualized on my desktop machine and that worked great.) I would like to use jails since I've got several domains to administer and each domain belongs to another friend of mine. Hence, they should not get any access to the jail host or other jail clients. So, I would like to use jails to virtualize several servers. On every host there'll be a Postfix and Apache installation. So, everything stays quite simple. Nothing complex. 1. ZFS and Jails It would be cool if I could simplify the process of updating the software that is running in every jail. I searched in the web for some information and also had a look at the FreeBSD mailing lists. It looks like it's quite a popular set-up to create a "base" FreeBSD Jail that is cloned with the help of ZFS if there is a new jail needed. The ports tree is mounted with a nullfs in every jail so updating the "main" ports tree would lead to the software in every jail getting updated. Or am I understanding something totally wrongly here? While reading I also got the impression there are different methods for maintaining Jails with ZFS. I would be very thankful if anyone will point out the different approaches that exist (some articles on the net seem outdated). Maybe a quick reference to necessary man pages are already enough, then I can do further research on my own. :-) 2. Jails and routing The main question is: Is it possible for the jails' host to distinguish between incoming connections depending on the domain look-up they did? If it is possible I would like to use as less IP addresses as possible. Could be that it's technically not possible at all but I thought there is maybe some way to do it and someone knows. The idea is the jails' host does something like this: Connection to Domain#1 established so everything goes to Jail#1, Connection to Domain#2 established so everything foes to Jail#2, ... but the jails and the jails' host use the same IP X. I also read that it is possible to only run specific applications in a jail so the jail itself is not a completely new FreeBSD installation (see Handbook 15.3 Creating and Controlling Jails, first sentence). In case, I would have two jails and every jail's running a web server, now, there is a connection to IP X on port 80. Where is the connection going to? I guess this has to be configured at the jails' host acting as a gateway to the hosted jails and forwarding packages depending on the port that is used (e.g. 80 goes to Jail#1 and 8080 goes to Jail#2). I would like to understand this and the technical limitations better to get an idea about how many fixed public IP addresses I have to buy. So I can eventually save some money. :-) Thank you for any help. Sorry if I am asking for something that does not make any sense at all -- I am still busy trying to get the principles or options that exist in the set-up mentioned above. Best regards, -- Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff niklaas@kulturflatrate.net https://twitter.com/NBvGersdorff http://www.kulturflatrate.net/niklaas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 13:34:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73BD866C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com (mail-qg0-f47.google.com [209.85.192.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E42DBC3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i50so2918316qgf.34 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:33:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y8CYv8xyDVCpC8325S5/myeH1kuCxeHGRO1jmyz4RIo=; b=dLgQSXxMStAtBgEy9uK5N0Ui41SSIpRQpiMk+b2VH6xEjsMN/0Hyf0zgrZYkDqd3EE N9SCsGwmERollWvOKpfJRqgBQxF00nyHRlvsELQkDFHPtWDLVv1Vo9yHEday3B5PXLZs O/6VNmddoUSjs0smnasVZZItYrLCCgMrKDFDmwsaXLgTz3tjIbIwIZSFQmCVOl+u9FWL 7YQUa9YP+Y+dcPhi3WgRzr/JWBrTTB9Yn5W37RK5YbvHBAmcXpkEnYVpbDrH50tfN4nB OKg9OQqDmCdpclkPxyZEOxiME8iQhKtqI5gG8AyiyNTRWP9KWCAJ+WlZvlvMxlmv3IOQ 5u+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkAhFDVpWYXip/5fpcPc4rhLV3AL/CrWiJ2exPOaQ69noIByB35s+SGCsG8v21uuAhapuk8 X-Received: by 10.224.88.3 with SMTP id y3mr51248144qal.65.1410269636963; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBP-1.local ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w8sm10331488qag.2.2014.09.09.06.33.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Kraus X-Google-Original-From: Paul Kraus Message-ID: <540F01C4.1080209@brandywine.kraus-haus.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:33:56 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James D. Parra" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a raid1 with single system drive References: <405098918.20787549.1410240011151.JavaMail.root@musicreports.com> In-Reply-To: <405098918.20787549.1410240011151.JavaMail.root@musicreports.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:34:04 -0000 On 9/9/14 1:20, James D. Parra wrote: > # zpool status > pool: tank0 > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 Looks like a typical single drive zpool built on a partitioned drive. > > I wish to add an identical disk to create a raid1 array. A list of the drives shows; > > ll /dev/ad* > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 110 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 115 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 117 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 119 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1d > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 112 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 121 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 126 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 128 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 130 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1d > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 132 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1e > > I installed the OS on the second disk as well so the partitions would be the same. However, something doesn't appear correct. No need for that, but from the following it looks like you installed the OS two different ways... Or are you running two different OSes ? > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1s1e ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) > # gpart show > => 63 1953525105 ada0 MBR (931G) > 63 1953 - free - (976k) > 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) > > => 0 1953523152 ada0s1 BSD (931G) > 0 2097152 1 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) > 2097152 809500672 2 freebsd-swap (386G) > 811597824 1141925328 4 freebsd-zfs (544G) What is the 1.0 GB UFS partition for ? > => 63 1953525105 ada1 MBR (931G) > 63 1953 - free - (976k) > 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) > > => 0 1953523152 ada1s1 BSD (931G) > 0 4096000 1 freebsd-ufs (2G) > 4096000 4096000 2 freebsd-swap (2G) > 8192000 4194304 4 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) > 12386304 1941136848 5 freebsd-ufs (925G) And this does not match the above, so when you installed the OS, you must have given it different options. > Although, the disks are identical, the installation partitioned them differently. Yes, it did. > What is the best way to create a zfs raid1 for the system drive by adding the second drive after the install? What I have always done is install the OS to the first drive, then manually partition the second drive to match the first and then add the matching partition to the zpool. Remember to install the boot loader on the second drive after establishing the mirror (see gpart bootcode) so that you can boot from it if the first drive fails. I also keep a bootable USB drive near the server for booting when something goes horribly wrong :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 14:01:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F222F1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com (mri-mail.musicreports.com [38.98.50.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061D9EA9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mri-mail.musicreports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA12D5688056 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 07:01:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mri-mail.musicreports.com Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mri-mail.musicreports.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D3LQ8aQH2-B3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 07:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mri-mail.musicreports.com (mri-mail.musicreports.com [192.168.20.65]) by mri-mail.musicreports.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6817568800D for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 07:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 07:01:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "James D. Parra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <43820819.20811367.1410271285690.JavaMail.root@musicreports.com> In-Reply-To: <540F01C4.1080209@brandywine.kraus-haus.org> Subject: Re: creating a raid1 with single system drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.10.101] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.4_GA_2900 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.2.4_GA_2900) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:01:37 -0000 On 9/9/14 1:20, James D. Parra wrote: > # zpool status > pool: tank0 > state: ONLINE > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 Looks like a typical single drive zpool built on a partitioned drive. > > I wish to add an identical disk to create a raid1 array. A list of the drives shows; > > ll /dev/ad* > > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 108 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 110 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 115 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 117 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 119 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada0s1d > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 112 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 121 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 126 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 128 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1b > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 130 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1d > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 132 Sep 8 19:21 /dev/ada1s1e > > I installed the OS on the second disk as well so the partitions would be the same. However, something doesn't appear correct. No need for that, but from the following it looks like you installed the OS two different ways... Or are you running two different OSes ? > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada0s1d ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1s1e ONLINE 0 0 0 (resilvering) > # gpart show > => 63 1953525105 ada0 MBR (931G) > 63 1953 - free - (976k) > 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) > > => 0 1953523152 ada0s1 BSD (931G) > 0 2097152 1 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) > 2097152 809500672 2 freebsd-swap (386G) > 811597824 1141925328 4 freebsd-zfs (544G) What is the 1.0 GB UFS partition for ? > => 63 1953525105 ada1 MBR (931G) > 63 1953 - free - (976k) > 2016 1953523152 1 freebsd (931G) > > => 0 1953523152 ada1s1 BSD (931G) > 0 4096000 1 freebsd-ufs (2G) > 4096000 4096000 2 freebsd-swap (2G) > 8192000 4194304 4 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) > 12386304 1941136848 5 freebsd-ufs (925G) And this does not match the above, so when you installed the OS, you must have given it different options. > Although, the disks are identical, the installation partitioned them differently. Yes, it did. > What is the best way to create a zfs raid1 for the system drive by adding the second drive after the install? What I have always done is install the OS to the first drive, then manually partition the second drive to match the first and then add the matching partition to the zpool. Remember to install the boot loader on the second drive after establishing the mirror (see gpart bootcode) so that you can boot from it if the first drive fails. I also keep a bootable USB drive near the server for booting when something goes horribly wrong :-) ~~~~~ Thanks Paul. The OS's are identical, however I did not use ZFS on the second install. I did that previously and when I tried to add that drive (the second drive) to the zfs pool it gave an error that it was part of another pool, although both pools were tank0. Using the force option did not help. Is there a way to have a tool (gpart?) to read the partitions from the source drive and create the matching partitions on the target drive? Many thanks, James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 14:10:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9111F463 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1307EFAC for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s89EABLQ086186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:10:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s89EABLQ086186 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s89EABLQ086186; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <540F0A3D.4070209@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:10:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS, Jails, network, routing, domains and IP addresses References: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> In-Reply-To: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jAB4MI3sSDXP5EclrLbHhP94HauHwsd5N" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:10:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jAB4MI3sSDXP5EclrLbHhP94HauHwsd5N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/09/14 14:22, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am not an educated computer scientist but got in touch with UNIX and > Linux quite early. Since then I ran several servers and am somehow > finding my way through the IT world by readings lots of blogs, articles= > and mailing lists about the topic as a hobby. At the moment I am runnin= g > a root server at some provider who I don't like anymore (this has its > reasons) and would like to switch the provider. Because this will be > some work in any event I thought about simultaneously switching from > Debian to FreeBSD since this is something I would like to do for quite > some time. >=20 > The main reasons for switching to FreeBSD are jails and the ports > system. My question concerns jails and the set-up I thought about. If > you have any thoughts about it please just give me some short hints and= > I'll be very happy about that. :-) >=20 > So, the future server has 48 GB of RAM and 2 2TB HDDs. I thought about > installing FreeBSD 10 with ZFS (on /) mirroring both HDDs. (I already > did that set-up smaller and virtualized on my desktop machine and that > worked great.) I would like to use jails since I've got several domains= > to administer and each domain belongs to another friend of mine. Hence,= > they should not get any access to the jail host or other jail clients. > So, I would like to use jails to virtualize several servers. On every > host there'll be a Postfix and Apache installation. So, everything stay= s > quite simple. Nothing complex. That should do fine. If you're going to be building a lot of jails with much the same software load-out, then you can make it all quite space efficient by building a template jail and then using ZFS cloning. Either as a DiY setup or try ezjail. Note: don't turn on ZFS deduplication. It sounds attractive, but you will need a lot more RAM than you have in order for it to be effective, and it does entail trading off performance for storage efficiency. > 1. ZFS and Jails >=20 > It would be cool if I could simplify the process of updating the > software that is running in every jail. I searched in the web for some > information and also had a look at the FreeBSD mailing lists. It looks > like it's quite a popular set-up to create a "base" FreeBSD Jail that i= s > cloned with the help of ZFS if there is a new jail needed. The ports > tree is mounted with a nullfs in every jail so updating the "main" port= s > tree would lead to the software in every jail getting updated. Or am I > understanding something totally wrongly here? Read about the -c and -j flags in pkg(8). Also, I recommend managing your jails entirely through binary packages, rather than mounting ports trees everywhere. You can either use the standard FreeBSD pkg repos, or build your own with poudriere or indeed a combination of the two. > While reading I also got the impression there are different methods for= > maintaining Jails with ZFS. I would be very thankful if anyone will > point out the different approaches that exist (some articles on the net= > seem outdated). Maybe a quick reference to necessary man pages are > already enough, then I can do further research on my own. :-) >=20 > 2. Jails and routing >=20 > The main question is: Is it possible for the jails' host to distinguish= > between incoming connections depending on the domain look-up they did? > If it is possible I would like to use as less IP addresses as possible.= > Could be that it's technically not possible at all but I thought there > is maybe some way to do it and someone knows. The idea is the jails' > host does something like this: Connection to Domain#1 established so > everything goes to Jail#1, Connection to Domain#2 established so > everything foes to Jail#2, ... but the jails and the jails' host use th= e > same IP X. This might be possible, but it's not something that is usually done. Given you've said the applications you'll be supplying are postfix and apache, then you should be able to have a small instance of either of those acting as a reverse proxy in front of your jailed environments (which can just use some private address space). You can then decide how to route the traffic to the appropriate jail based on the SMTP or HTTP protocol headers involved. This is bog standard webserver stuff, and I think it's not uncommon for mail servers either. > I also read that it is possible to only run specific applications in a > jail so the jail itself is not a completely new FreeBSD installation > (see Handbook 15.3 Creating and Controlling Jails, first sentence). In > case, I would have two jails and every jail's running a web server, now= , > there is a connection to IP X on port 80. Where is the connection going= > to? I guess this has to be configured at the jails' host acting as a > gateway to the hosted jails and forwarding packages depending on the > port that is used (e.g. 80 goes to Jail#1 and 8080 goes to Jail#2). Yes, this is certainly possible. The technique is called 'thin jails' -- however, each jail will need a distinct IP, and the idea of the jailed applications being able to bind to different ports on the same IP doesn't work. You can do fancy firewall redirects and stuff to make this sort of thing work, but honestly, I think you'ld be better off doing the proxying etc. at Layer 7 rather than Layer 3. > I would like to understand this and the technical limitations better to= > get an idea about how many fixed public IP addresses I have to buy. So = I > can eventually save some money. :-) Go with IPv6. You'll have more IP numbers than you can possibly consume thrust upon you... > Thank you for any help. Sorry if I am asking for something that does no= t > make any sense at all -- I am still busy trying to get the principles o= r > options that exist in the set-up mentioned above. 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[46.64.197.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pk9sm15267819wjb.16.2014.09.09.08.20.24 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:20:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A litmus check request Message-ID: <20140909162023.3f0cb6d7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:20:28 -0000 On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:37:36 -0600 Dave Babb wrote: > I am about to do a lot of compiling. My copy of FreeBSD10.0 x64 P7 > runs on a 1TB Samsung EVO. I used wblock's excellent articles to set > it all up so that trim was utilized. > > I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and > validate for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate > files, or ".o" files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to > protect the SSD. If you haven't already done so I'd suggest you have a look at the output of smartctl -a (from sysutils/smartmontools) and see if Samsung have added an attribute to track total writes into the NAND flash. I recently installed an SSD, and found buildworld produced 6 GB of writes and buildkernel a further 6 GB. It's a substantial overhead, but not ruinous if you occasionally want to install world by rebooting into single-user mode. An alternative might be to build with MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX set to /tmp/obj and then copy /tmp/obj to /usr/obj. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 15:30:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E05A97D for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68BBB86 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14139F59; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:21:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.8.0 (20120630) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 1vh_zYEjC9JT; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:21:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3332D39F52 ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:21:30 +0200 (CEST) From: "bsd@todoo.biz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:21:29 +0200 Subject: ZFS Zpool upgrade question To: Liste FreeBSD Message-Id: <6DE95A84-47F5-405B-8860-41C3D483D7CF@todoo.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:30:26 -0000 Hi folks,=20 We have moved our server from 9.2 to 9.3 and there seem to be a new = version of ZFS available with a new feature set.=20 We are backing up our data on FreeNAS which has the same ZFS version for = the moment.=20 > ZFS filesystem version: 5 > ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) =95 Can we leave with a non updated version of a ZPool on a server? 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: here we go again w/ pkg .... References: <540ED049.8010602@club-internet.fr> In-Reply-To: <540ED049.8010602@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:32:46 -0000 On 09/09/14 05:02, Juan Ramn Molina Menor wrote: >> On 09/08/14 17:46, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >/ On 08/09/2014 22:18, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> />>/ root at kabini1 >> , /etc, >> 4:11:53pm] 568 % pkg version -vIL= >> />>/ curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index >> has 7.37.1_3) >> />>/ gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index >> has 2.24.22_4) >> />>/ libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index >> has 0.1.6_1) >> />>/ pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index >> has 1.34.1_7) >> />>/ portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index >> has 3.17.7) >> />>/ readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index >> has 6.3.8) >> />>/ [root at kabini1 >> , /etc, >> 4:11:57pm] 569 % pkg version -vRL= >> />>/ Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> />>/ FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> />>/ Updating FreeBSD_new_xorg repository catalogue... >> />>/ FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date. >> />>/ All repositories are up-to-date. >> />>/ db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 >> />>/ dri-9.1.7_4,2 > succeeds remote (remote has >> />>/ 7.6.1_4,2) >> />>/ libGL-9.1.7_1 > succeeds remote (remote >> has 7.6.1_4) >> />>/ libdrm-2.4.52,1 > succeeds remote (remote has >> />>/ 2.4.17_1,1) >> />>/ linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: >> textproc/linux-f10-expat >> />>/ linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: >> />>/ x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig >> />>/ linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: >> x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs >> />>/ opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: >> www/opera-linuxplugins >> />>/ xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_3 > succeeds remote (remote >> has 2.7.1_8) >> />>/ xorg-server-1.12.4_8,1 > succeeds remote (remote has >> />>/ 1.7.7_13,1) >> />/ It's the 'pkg version -vRL=' output which is pertinent when you're >> />/ trying to update using binary packages from the repository. In >> this >> />/ case it is clear that you have already upgraded (by >> portmaster(8) or >> />/ otherwise) using a more recent ports tree -- probably not the >> one with >> />/ the INDEX that shows some out of date packages. There simply >> aren't any >> />/ /newer/ binary packages available that what you already have >> installed, >> />/ so pkg(8) doesn't do anything. >> />/ >> />/ Cheers, >> />/ >> />/ Matthew >> />/ >> / >> >> >> I didn't do an actual ports update, just checked, using: portmaster -L >> |/ egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' .... I guess that's enough to >> /mess up pkg ? > > Why do you persist on the idea there is something messed up? You have > a ports tree showing updated versions of some ports and official > package repositories which are temporarily lagging behind, thats all! > > Hope it helps, > Juan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Because I wasn't clear on the degree of connection between ports & pkgng, possibly due to my noob status .... It'll clear up eventually .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 15:39:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9D8FCD9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50F8DC9F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s89FdBFb073389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 09:39:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <540F1F1F.2040600@ssimicro.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:39:11 -0600 From: markham_breitbach@ssimicro.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS, Jails, network, routing, domains and IP addresses References: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> In-Reply-To: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:39:19 -0000 On 2014-09-09, 7:22 AM, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrote: > Hi, > > I am not an educated computer scientist but got in touch with UNIX and > Linux quite early. Since then I ran several servers and am somehow > finding my way through the IT world by readings lots of blogs, > articles and mailing lists about the topic as a hobby. At the moment I > am running a root server at some provider who I don't like anymore > (this has its reasons) and would like to switch the provider. Because > this will be some work in any event I thought about simultaneously > switching from Debian to FreeBSD since this is something I would like > to do for quite some time. > > The main reasons for switching to FreeBSD are jails and the ports > system. My question concerns jails and the set-up I thought about. If > you have any thoughts about it please just give me some short hints > and I'll be very happy about that. :-) > > So, the future server has 48 GB of RAM and 2 2TB HDDs. I thought about > installing FreeBSD 10 with ZFS (on /) mirroring both HDDs. (I already > did that set-up smaller and virtualized on my desktop machine and that > worked great.) I would like to use jails since I've got several > domains to administer and each domain belongs to another friend of > mine. Hence, they should not get any access to the jail host or other > jail clients. So, I would like to use jails to virtualize several > servers. On every host there'll be a Postfix and Apache installation. > So, everything stays quite simple. Nothing complex. Jails are a great solution for this. I have used jails to roll out identical systems across a large geographic area, so that each jail uses a local configuration file to set some local variables (IP address, hostname, etc.) that are inserted at jail startup time. In this way, I can maintain a single "image" that can be deployed and installed to quickly upgrade dozens of servers. Another trick I have used is to setup a base "instance" that is nullfs mounted for individual jails which things like /var and /home remain unique and RW. I am currently running about 100 apache AMP hosts this way, so I can quickly upgrade apache once in the single instance and all 100 hosts are instantly upgraded. > > 1. ZFS and Jails > > It would be cool if I could simplify the process of updating the > software that is running in every jail. I searched in the web for some > information and also had a look at the FreeBSD mailing lists. It looks > like it's quite a popular set-up to create a "base" FreeBSD Jail that > is cloned with the help of ZFS if there is a new jail needed. The > ports tree is mounted with a nullfs in every jail so updating the > "main" ports tree would lead to the software in every jail getting > updated. Or am I understanding something totally wrongly here? > > While reading I also got the impression there are different methods > for maintaining Jails with ZFS. I would be very thankful if anyone > will point out the different approaches that exist (some articles on > the net seem outdated). Maybe a quick reference to necessary man pages > are already enough, then I can do further research on my own. :-) > > 2. Jails and routing > > The main question is: Is it possible for the jails' host to > distinguish between incoming connections depending on the domain > look-up they did? If it is possible I would like to use as less IP > addresses as possible. Could be that it's technically not possible at > all but I thought there is maybe some way to do it and someone knows. > The idea is the jails' host does something like this: Connection to > Domain#1 established so everything goes to Jail#1, Connection to > Domain#2 established so everything foes to Jail#2, ... but the jails > and the jails' host use the same IP X. Technically what you are asking is not possible. The server doesn't know what lookup the client has done, although http can send a header to identify the domain requested. This will allow you to proxy requests to the appropriate jail, but I suspect the money you save in IP addresses will quickly be lost double in support time if you try to over-complicate things with layer7 proxies and clever routing tricks, double again when something goes wrong. > > I also read that it is possible to only run specific applications in a > jail so the jail itself is not a completely new FreeBSD installation > (see Handbook 15.3 Creating and Controlling Jails, first sentence). In > case, I would have two jails and every jail's running a web server, > now, there is a connection to IP X on port 80. Where is the connection > going to? I guess this has to be configured at the jails' host acting > as a gateway to the hosted jails and forwarding packages depending on > the port that is used (e.g. 80 goes to Jail#1 and 8080 goes to Jail#2). > > I would like to understand this and the technical limitations better > to get an idea about how many fixed public IP addresses I have to buy. > So I can eventually save some money. :-) > Thank you for any help. Sorry if I am asking for something that does > not make any sense at all -- I am still busy trying to get the > principles or options that exist in the set-up mentioned above. > > Best regards, > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 16:05:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3435FC2A for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F14DAFE7 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-199.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s89G59aS029593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:05:09 -0500 Message-ID: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:11:24 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: minor sendmail issue .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:05:11 -0000 .... I am getting sendmail notifications in my messages file as such: Sep 9 03:01:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:02:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:02:24 kabini1 sendmail[44737]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:03:24 kabini1 sendmail[44737]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:03:24 kabini1 sendmail[44742]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:04:24 kabini1 sendmail[44742]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:05:42 kabini1 sendmail[44912]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:05:42 kabini1 sendmail[44953]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:05:42 kabini1 sendmail[44954]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:06:01 kabini1 sendmail[44971]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 03:06:42 kabini1 sendmail[44912]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:06:42 kabini1 sendmail[44953]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:06:42 kabini1 sendmail[44954]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 03:07:01 kabini1 sendmail[44971]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 04:30:00 kabini1 sendmail[45139]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 04:31:00 kabini1 sendmail[45139]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name Sep 9 04:55:00 kabini1 sendmail[45217]: My unqualified host name (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 9 04:56:00 kabini1 sendmail[45217]: unable to qualify my own domain name (jaguar) -- using short name This is happening (I think) because I am on a LAN, w/ no domain name, no DNS servers running, just local machine names. I got/get the same thing under linux, although I get fewer of them because Linux combines all of its logwatch stuff into 1 grand message, so only 1 batch of these notifications. I am getting more under FBSD 9.3 because I get more logwatch/cron messages, each begetting a group of the above notifications. These are kinda swamping other stuff in the messages file, is there a way to suppress these notifications from sendmail ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 16:08:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8658CE4C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (mail.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.237]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450EFB5 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35689 invoked by uid 89); 9 Sep 2014 16:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with ESMTPA; 9 Sep 2014 16:10:02 -0000 Message-ID: <540F25C0.7070202@pchotshots.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:07:28 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A litmus check request References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> <20140909162023.3f0cb6d7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140909162023.3f0cb6d7@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:08:05 -0000 On 9/9/2014 11:20 AM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:37:36 -0600 > Dave Babb wrote: > >> I am about to do a lot of compiling. My copy of FreeBSD10.0 x64 P7 >> runs on a 1TB Samsung EVO. I used wblock's excellent articles to set >> it all up so that trim was utilized. >> >> I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and >> validate for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate >> files, or ".o" files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to >> protect the SSD. > If you haven't already done so I'd suggest you have a look at the > output of smartctl -a (from sysutils/smartmontools) and see > if Samsung have added an attribute to track total writes into the NAND > flash. > > I recently installed an SSD, and found buildworld produced 6 GB > of writes and buildkernel a further 6 GB. It's a substantial > overhead, but not ruinous if you occasionally want to install world by > rebooting into single-user mode. An alternative might be to build with > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX set to /tmp/obj and then copy /tmp/obj to /usr/obj. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The Tech Report has been an SSD Endurance Experiment since Aug 2013. Three out of six starting drives have made it to the 1PB mark, the other three all made it up to 600TB. All of the drives are consumer grade, not server grade. Being careful is good, but depending on brand of drive, and several other factors, the 200TB write life looks like be a bit of an underestimate. As long as you try to reasonably minimize your writes to the SSD, it doesn't look like you need to be too paranoid about it. http://techreport.com/review/24841/introducing-the-ssd-endurance-experiment Links to updates on the experiment can be found at the bottom of the last page (before the comments). Hope this helps. -- Brad Mettee From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 16:14:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68F552C1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com (mail-qc0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F87B19E for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c9so17583351qcz.20 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nrEdYHmzN7SGNNuGZD5k+v1lT0MzzAWS4OOYZnF6K/A=; b=OGdIZH+uNObQ0CGKCAjBQ12RQ0sglVio38G6HCjRvPST16fiaBleQFVgwJ/9W31E9T o/hkF2n302MaM64jYfBojH9Av/Fo06yB9becmS0b3KuvouG65fHjEdl6kXAdD0/9MEkx afaJJ1oNBM6np9iJ1epXg8Yjni9L+x01FriAcMk+kYgiE0fpt/1u/Vr7pFN5oWLVvfTY /Dw2sqD+De+E1fLAC6Orf1VJQioSX1M6jY9usLUoFLfbezOD1pdrsUWc9P0yFXrDuZo9 UFRfIXb5I9DJxpgMtiXP2FJ2VY5opXjvis06IbGYDtvlj+fdCbC1TOaCxROD3tgLCOBf KfbA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn8L2zeJeY65oofRjh21IIHP/+iklVUGK6ApljcZxUK9Av7tVasNzfpjvYTj74WKJI0wqDd X-Received: by 10.140.16.194 with SMTP id 60mr13725609qgb.105.1410277460894; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBP-1.local ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o6sm10564184qag.40.2014.09.09.08.44.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Kraus X-Google-Original-From: Paul Kraus Message-ID: <540F2054.3040808@brandywine.kraus-haus.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:44:20 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "bsd@todoo.biz" , Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ZFS Zpool upgrade question References: <6DE95A84-47F5-405B-8860-41C3D483D7CF@todoo.biz> In-Reply-To: <6DE95A84-47F5-405B-8860-41C3D483D7CF@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:14:08 -0000 On 9/9/14 11:21, bsd@todoo.biz wrote: > Hi folks, > > We have moved our server from 9.2 to 9.3 and there seem to be a new version of ZFS available with a new feature set. > > We are backing up our data on FreeNAS which has the same ZFS version for the moment. >> ZFS filesystem version: 5 >> ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) > Can we leave with a non updated version of a ZPool on a server? What are the risks ? You can leave the zpool (and zfs) at a lower version. I am not aware of any risks per-se, but you will not get the additional features of the newer version. In some cases the features fix bugs (usually for corner cases, but bugs just the same). So if you run into a situation where you need a fix a feature provides you may get into trouble. A past example I have ran into was poor zfs destroy performance with _lots_ of snapshots. IIRC the specific problem I was having on zpool 15 was fixed by the time zpool 28 was out. > Can my server zfs send | receive Its data on different version of ZFS on send <> receive side ? According to the man page, the format of the zfs stream is committed and you are supposed to be able to zfs send / zfs recv between different versions of ZFS. Just be aware that if you are using a specific feature on one end you may not have that functionality on the other. I kept my zpools at version 28 for over a year so I would have a the flexibility of moving the zpool to a different OS system (zpool 28 was the last version completely supported by Solaris / Illumos / FreeBSD, after that there have been added features that may or may not be on one OS or the other). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 16:27:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3953828 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 648FF304 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 295FD3CE45; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:27:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89GRZK5003091; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:27:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:27:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... Message-Id: <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:27:40 -0000 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:11:24 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I am getting sendmail notifications in my messages file as such: > > > Sep 9 03:01:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: My unqualified host name > (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry > Sep 9 03:02:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: unable to qualify my own domain > name (jaguar) -- using short name > > [...] > > This is happening (I think) because I am on a LAN, w/ no domain name, no > DNS servers running, just local machine names. That shouldn't be a problem. As a domain name, you could chose "local", "lan" or "localdomain". It's important that you have the hostname= setting in /etc/rc.conf and a matching entry in /etc/hosts that associates a valid IP (even if that is just 127.0.0.1). An example: 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.1 jaguar.local jaguar 127.0.0.1 jaguar.local. You can even add more IPs that identify "jaguar", depending on if your LAN has fixed addresses or the machine in question obtains one via DHCP (different one each time). At first installation or after major changes, review the sendmail configuration and "make all install" in /etc/mail. See /etc/mail/Makefile for details about the targets you would need to specify. The file names (!) will reflect the naming decision you made. > These are kinda swamping other stuff in the messages > file, is there a way to suppress these notifications from sendmail ? TIA The notifications are there for a reason, so it would be better to deal with the reason instead of with the error message reporting the problem. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 16:55:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAFFB254 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA67824 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0BE746B8B for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s89GtMg7085307 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s89GtMNW085304 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: here we go again w/ pkg .... In-Reply-To: <540F1F11.8010601@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <540ED049.8010602@club-internet.fr> <540F1F11.8010601@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:55:22 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:55:23 -0000 On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> I didn't do an actual ports update, just checked, using: portmaster -L >>> |/ egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' .... I guess that's enough to >>> /mess up pkg ? > >> Why do you persist on the idea there is something messed up? You have a >> ports tree showing updated versions of some ports and official package >> repositories which are temporarily lagging behind, that?s all! >> >> Hope it helps, >> Juan > > > Because I wasn't clear on the degree of connection between ports & pkgng, > possibly due to my noob status .... It'll clear up eventually .... pkgng is simply an upgrade to the pkg_ set of commands. It did not change the relation between ports and packages. Once you have something installed it does not matter if you built it (ports) or installed it as a binary package. If you install something really complex, say Xorg or KDE and then build some component and then sometime after that install a related package you can get some warning messages or even have some component replaced with an earlier version. BTW if I don't get it either, please, please chip in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 17:10:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59CADA92 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20B6B9FF for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-199.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s89HAqcQ003705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 12:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:17:07 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:10:55 -0000 On 09/09/14 11:27, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:11:24 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... I am getting sendmail notifications in my messages file as such: >> >> >> Sep 9 03:01:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: My unqualified host name >> (jaguar) unknown; sleeping for retry >> Sep 9 03:02:00 kabini1 sendmail[44668]: unable to qualify my own domain >> name (jaguar) -- using short name >> >> [...] >> >> This is happening (I think) because I am on a LAN, w/ no domain name, no >> DNS servers running, just local machine names. > That shouldn't be a problem. As a domain name, you could > chose "local", "lan" or "localdomain". It's important that > you have the hostname= setting in /etc/rc.conf and a matching > entry in /etc/hosts that associates a valid IP (even if that > is just 127.0.0.1). An example: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.0.1 jaguar.local jaguar > 127.0.0.1 jaguar.local. > > You can even add more IPs that identify "jaguar", depending > on if your LAN has fixed addresses or the machine in question > obtains one via DHCP (different one each time). > > At first installation or after major changes, review the > sendmail configuration and "make all install" in /etc/mail. > See /etc/mail/Makefile for details about the targets you > would need to specify. The file names (!) will reflect > the naming decision you made. > > > >> These are kinda swamping other stuff in the messages >> file, is there a way to suppress these notifications from sendmail ? TIA > The notifications are there for a reason, so it would be > better to deal with the reason instead of with the error > message reporting the problem. :-) > > > I think I have that point (matching names in rc.conf & hosts) covered: [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:40pm] 407 % grep -i kabini rc.conf hosts rc.conf:hostname="kabini1" hosts:192.168.0.27 jaguar kabini1 [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:41pm] 407 % but w/ no domain name .... I'll try jaguar.local in hosts & see how that goes .... Thx :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:08:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6960250 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B9708E1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s89J8BpM061055; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:08:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EC885124FB; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:08:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: New Project Questions Message-ID: <20140909190810.GA36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Babb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:08:18 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 10:59:19PM -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > Good Evening, >=20 > While I have no questions a this moment. I will be having questions in > the near future (days). >=20 > I am a retired systems integrator who has changed all of my > specifications and basis of designs to FreeBSD from Linux....While > retired, I have maintained two accounts that still want me to service > them...The City of Simla came to me as a recommendation from one of my > other clients. Based upon my own experience with FreeBSD over the last > 6ish months, and frustration and embarrassment--in front of a > client....with Linux. Plus the frustration with the systemd, Wayland, > Mir, X debacle has caused my other clients to plan for FreeBSD > conversions by Jan 2015. I am tired of deploying systems who may change > to some new technology tomorrow, without proper thought, and potentially > orphaning/breaking my project, or causing me to have to rebuilt it to > accommodate the updates.....all on my nickle with no recoup of revenue. >=20 > My FreeBSD experience has been one of reliability, stability, and > consistency. That's the experience I want to provide to this new client, > and then to my old clients at years end. Frankly, I couldn't be happier > with FreeBSD. Pretty much. As a FreeBSD user since 5.3 I've used releases, and followed STABLE if it provided new features I needed. The few cases where I've run i= nto problems have usually been hardware problems. But there are some things that one needs to be aware of, e.g. and in no particular order: * UFS snapshots (dump(8)-ing a live filesystem) doesn't work with journal= ed soft-updates. * GELI(8) doesn't support TRIM yet, so encrypting an SSD might slow it do= wn a lot over time. * After an update to a new major FreeBSD version, it is usually a good id= ea to remove all ports and re-install them rather than update them in-plac= e. It is my *impression* that ZFS has its own peculiarities, but since I haven= 't used it yet I cannot comment om them. Subscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list to keep on top of announcements. Read /usr/src/UPDATING after updates. When updating ports, read /usr/ports/UPDATING after updating the ports tree but before starting portmaster! > As I have rolled out a lot of Linux solutions over the years...the > current project I have been awarded (City of Simla, Colorado IT > Infrastructure Changeout) will be first big project I have done going > pure FreeBSD on the server and on the desktop, instead of my old > paradigm of Linux. My workstation and laptop both run FreeBSD, and I'm very happy with them. B= ut especially with graphics hardware you have to be selective in what you buy. The FreeBSD drivers are generally ports of the Linux drivers, and there are= a limited number of people working on them. So it takes a while for the latest and greatest to become supported. Having said that, the new KMS drivers for Radeons and Intel work fine. > Because I still have Linux knowledge in my head...and being older...I > fear inadvertently "linuxizing" FreeBSD. I've made the same switch years ago. A big help is that the manual pages are generally well done. > I don't know if there are email length limitations, frequency limits, or > what the culture is on this mailing list. In my opinion, two of FreeBSD's best features are the *the community* and *= the ports tree*. > I would expect at some time to generate a chart, be that a DIA chart, or > some other charting software (feel free to recommend one), for drawing > up the new network architecture based upon my walk-through tomorrow. Does it need to be an interactive tool? Otherwise you might consider; * asymptote (examples: http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/gallery/) * TikZ (LaTeX package, examples: http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/tag/= diagrams/) * metapost (examples: http://tex.loria.fr/prod-graph/zoonekynd/metapost/met= apost.html) Fair warning, these tools are more or less programming languages for generating pictures. Very powerful but with a significant learning curve. > More Q's: Are attachments allowed or not? PDF? or Native format? Attachments are generally not allowed. But e.g. OpenPGP signatures are. > Would someone in this mailing list please let me know what the culture > is and proper usage of this list is, and what is expected of me when I > generate an email to this list? Try the Handbook, manual pages and Google first, before firing off a questi= on to the list. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUD1AaAAoJEED21dyjijPgLzAQALOQZRddad4wUySGLtULgdf2 rFEtgzTSTnGxeOmo/lNcDJOK03zbSllf+iImeFlaaINEqzI187KBazYBUjYgQQiV SUCquOnQ2tRF4GfOpvA+TM104kdbAET3cVyWqhlBu93oIENqA5qDtBAyK5RuKI1Z N471q+Mf4gEBuBOtsUqQO+xPwApj2ZlqMqcq4slaNyDQzl6mTU+X1jrB3HU88WFh c3K7flyKrJ3KIgPpW+ABVyG8XfzZ+oYk5TJJE06Hc4MyntH1m3kTK44vATY3MJPa b8azIZGswK5ruQXqavIv4ov1S7x602lnnQEz4KPGA1RpQmLgDJ8Jl73h4cGHdMlQ oS5YjRLYLX6jTWKe2Loylz3czPZ59CoHQMHfLnbEx6P+b2qAJja3upMy/WX6FTvw i92RpiCNC906QocX3hn1iveGwUa7XRWanbTp1zQP+aa9xDzUdKsI3Fau1XX/erWs MPAa0TcdWs7HXf0Dvag+Gwyo4GmA2e8e4la4DPgli3SsLCfLMFavODGXg0325Lpd dsqHqiHSxbfRHsKtAbM1MDcgdu/E1bWEjbL/UJuy5KLL5a0/e2qgAuwdOHlksHdr LhCCeSgEbgzPS8K7wcU69rCXEjwH62662FApKV7fOvURBrJJt9a3gH7/TCQ8GKOm kZ788xaLmR5F15OBEQFh =mEGS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:23:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EB5DA5A for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A394EAEA for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s89JNoRK091039; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:23:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0D43F123C3; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:23:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:23:50 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: A litmus check request Message-ID: <20140909192350.GB36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Babb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:23:57 -0000 --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 03:37:36PM -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > I am about to do a lot of compiling. My copy of FreeBSD10.0 x64 P7 runs > on a 1TB Samsung EVO. I used wblock's excellent articles to set it all > up so that trim was utilized. >=20 > I am asking that someone please review this attached fstab and validate > for me, that at no time will any compilation intermediate files, or ".o" > files will be written to the SSD. I am trying to protect the SSD. >=20 > The ramdisk is where I run Code::Blocks from, and I have a bash script > handling everything. However, I build kernels frequently, and am about > to embark on a recently awarded QT project for a municipality. >=20 > In this fstab I have moved /usr/obj to tmpfs..... Keep in mind that /usr/obj is only used for building the FreeBSD system itself. Ports are built in the ports tree. Generally under /usr/ports///work You could use unionfs (see mount_unionfs(8)) to overlay a tmpfs over /usr/p= orts. I've used unionfs with nullfs to use a single ports tree in multiple jails, see: http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/freebsd/using-nullfs-and-unionfs-for-the-= ports-tree-in-a-jail.html Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUD1PFAAoJEED21dyjijPg3s8QAKyBcjmeS9/P+kzdiDXWoYFr r30T+2KuXmpCKXQuZSd1UNGIUMhMDDkV4nrb5fRVo6mDj79S5l6BpPA2vmCUdY6L jweB0pKnoTlmKiwJBvVyDUIDOIpMLWAYSI8qeNn+ov2M8cgZZfAN+W+4z/zdgPek XDoo6el82SkfYZq2w0fA/7WYZmzOdR7Tk9NUXc55N+7xd380Ch6zLPmcC1vQP5f6 ziBFelogWUwxix5BKaV959sXEEyICTWnNZyFl2RKydqIGWjltKriFazgCcn8QQ5y 2jUzbL1OaNE4tLVXE36/S7TDTa+DhzQiPF5a/klEFDjltn9vgGsCKWonPS23pNgw zcNwIke48GaRY6GNlRO5PiaEc7GwltaIlTQHWY+9iFTnN39ma60VZh3fNlCY1Oxs v5/6QT8k2Vy5/MljjTVJECustn6w9uaIx5Cdw0MpYq9V0Bjq1HxmarrEILQc1PEH 3/Inx3muvb554rp3JMZqw8tin3Kn+UoIzg8hYKnHg2RK18RPUVj66ceh8kjKbDn4 WBo7yrCuwoZuRHuclO10hCFuZjaSI2oXExoXmMoXK5AU3FJKlGNvbFM71zO8XqRT cqbLpGM+cFYUj+8epkpRCKCNFcbmlK4mhdVYwKOSp8Zv8+cSOZiyzGcBlgAMidli EIKqf1LUtvAEV/5Y8TNY =otA/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:35:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7256E28 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88F63C0F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6949924E02; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:35:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89JZWZn002017; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:35:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:35:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... Message-Id: <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:35:41 -0000 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:17:07 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > I think I have that point (matching names in rc.conf & hosts) covered: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:40pm] 407 % grep -i kabini rc.conf hosts > rc.conf:hostname="kabini1" > hosts:192.168.0.27 jaguar kabini1 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:41pm] 407 % Yes, which means no: There's no entry for 127.0.0.1 for that host. Local sendmail is listening on that IP. Also read "man 5 hosts" about what the fields of this file, separated by spaces, indicate: As you can see, "jaguar", the official host name as per hosts file, does not match the hostname "kabini1" set in rc.conf. In order to have several names for one IP (which is possible and valid), you can simply add more than one entry for each IP, for example: 127.0.0.1 localhost.local localhost 127.0.0.1 kabini1.local kabini1 192.168.0.27 kabini1.local kabini1 192.168.0.27 jaguar.local jaguar You can check if your settings are correct by testing them with the "host " command. > but w/ no domain name .... I'll try jaguar.local in hosts & see how that > goes .... Thx :-) .... The domain name isn't essentially required, but it does not harm to define one. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:48:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCA7947C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72E5ED55 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s89JmBFU001930; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:48:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F325A123C3; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:48:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:48:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: tmpfs and noatime heads up Message-ID: <20140909194810.GC36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Babb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <540E443C.1040702@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540E443C.1040702@comcast.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:48:18 -0000 --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:05:16PM -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > I added the noatime option to my fstab where the tempfs entries were.... The noatime option is generally meant to cut down on the amount of writes t= hat is done to a filesystem. This is only important for HDDs and especially SDD= s. Looking at the tmpfs code, it does maintain atime. The driver code checks f= or unknown options when mounting and returns EINVAL when a not allowed option = is found. See tmpfs_mount() /usr/src/sys/fs/tmpfs/tmpfs_vfsops.c > FreeBSD didn't like it and dropped me out to single user mode upon > reboot with the appropriate warning of "invalid mount option". Presumably that's just a conservative way of handling it. Does that also happen when you try to mount a tmpfs by hand after booting? I would guess not. > I removed the noatime flags for my tempfs entries, rebooted, and all > came back up as it should be. >=20 > No harm done.....Just an FYI that the tmpfs (at least on my system) > doesn't support the noatime flag.... According to the code in /usr/src/sys/fs/tmpfs/tmpfs_vfsops.c, the only supported options are; static const char *tmpfs_opts[] =3D { "from", "size", "maxfilesize", "inodes", "uid", "gid", "mode", = "export", "union", NULL }; > Anyway...an FYI! You might want to submit this as at least a documentation bug. FreeBSD now uses bugzilla: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUD1l6AAoJEED21dyjijPggkEP/RPtn8pEjB6c5klpLC6t8QRe 1g/PYbzB76mtM+pZQucvRKZotC5UV6J6n9Fl3WN8FV41xY5X1DSbfwYHkErykXkT +rArsz8U5cvJ01YMSJOMkuxLlB3rzQylcbh8H2jo0dKFkWSN/pc9M04nqZtHu1re 5Zg3KxTz53LGTw4vWUxYykk5dABudvXLs9pJM0rYtG8ofUhFOd6Z+DDZIXWC2nvm 7efGsKPN7rllbFkiJE1tj4HiI0NXAjRPokMANjNvvOvjcCzSt0Er1qSnffj58Ign 2guK87pLfEdum1bbv7orJ9Hbyl8FEkdsF+oEd4nJ8hHu3kH0HQNL6imlQuGrrH7S zf/kOO9aX70IH6mzaxDlItTFK/bsjWiBVvf+Diju+ntwbrEVXo4VxTRXe8kR8/b8 RXgS0ctiONKHDDzs725GYoh+CyiFpuOH348v4BqgBuQXoBcMVNe1J/jbFkq9q3ic OU0lZl6SDhQpkOQpyvkAMCku4/M8u5dqfSefqFifHH49NvBTCNNo8zxRUiWAwgaz pgWITSKvY5m+3Yhk2M/fiuS2ZelfmyrnG29lH7/A+Ylufz5BbKpm9sfYCmS0OB81 jH/aKRI9Zia0vRE3fTSvRX0iLjUnlyakhDXca3lgujtNN7bUIhh9mtqA7WFNJlEe oG5wZbLYeCNs0IKouuiJ =/fRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:49:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D73B7536 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EECCD76 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-199.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s89JnlNg015930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:56:02 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:49:50 -0000 On 09/09/14 14:35, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:17:07 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I think I have that point (matching names in rc.conf & hosts) covered: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:40pm] 407 % grep -i kabini rc.conf hosts >> rc.conf:hostname="kabini1" >> hosts:192.168.0.27 jaguar kabini1 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:14:41pm] 407 % > Yes, which means no: There's no entry for 127.0.0.1 for > that host. Local sendmail is listening on that IP. > > Also read "man 5 hosts" about what the fields of this > file, separated by spaces, indicate: > > > > As you can see, "jaguar", the official host name as per > hosts file, does not match the hostname "kabini1" set > in rc.conf. In order to have several names for one IP > (which is possible and valid), you can simply add more > than one entry for each IP, for example: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.local localhost > 127.0.0.1 kabini1.local kabini1 > 192.168.0.27 kabini1.local kabini1 > 192.168.0.27 jaguar.local jaguar > > You can check if your settings are correct by testing > them with the "host " command. > > > >> but w/ no domain name .... I'll try jaguar.local in hosts & see how that >> goes .... Thx :-) .... > The domain name isn't essentially required, but it > does not harm to define one. :-) > > > Very well, I wasn't aware you could have multiple entries in the hosts files. I have been sloppy about official name & aliases for yeasrs now, might account for this & other odd but harmless behavior on my LAN :-/ .... I will make the changes as you recommend this shortly. The 'kabini1.local' can be in hosts but not rc.conf ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 19:55:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4284586C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F060CE6C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A3E33CDC6; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89JtX8t002152; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:55:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:55:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... Message-Id: <20140909215533.06581187.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 19:55:39 -0000 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:56:02 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Very well, I wasn't aware you could have multiple entries in the hosts > files. I have been sloppy about official name & aliases for yeasrs now, > might account for this & other odd but harmless behavior on my LAN :-/ > .... I will make the changes as you recommend this shortly. The > 'kabini1.local' can be in hosts but not rc.conf ? It can and should. Set hostname="kabini1.local" in /etc/rc.conf, and accordingly 192.168.0.27 kabini1.local kabini1 in /etc/hosts. Don't miss setting localhost to 127.0.0.1, it will make sendmail happy. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 20:03:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F012BC8 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99592F5C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s89K3Rdb039247; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:03:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AFF7C123C9; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:03:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:03:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff Subject: Re: ZFS, Jails, network, routing, domains and IP addresses Message-ID: <20140909200327.GD36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GpGaEY17fSl8rd50" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540EFEF8.8020405@kulturflatrate.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:03:32 -0000 --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:22:00PM +0200, Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff wrot= e: > It would be cool if I could simplify the process of updating the=20 > software that is running in every jail. I searched in the web for some=20 > information and also had a look at the FreeBSD mailing lists. It looks=20 > like it's quite a popular set-up to create a "base" FreeBSD Jail that is= =20 > cloned with the help of ZFS if there is a new jail needed. The ports=20 > tree is mounted with a nullfs in every jail so updating the "main" ports= =20 > tree would lead to the software in every jail getting updated. Or am I=20 > understanding something totally wrongly here? If you mount the ports tree with nullfs, you only get the "recipes" for installing software. One way to "automatically" update every jail is to mount /usr/local with a nullfs in every jail. And then use a unionfs in every jail for the configuration files in /usr/local/etc. This does have limitations; * Every jail then has access to *everything* in /usr/local. That might not be what you want. * Every jail needs its own /usr/local/etc, hence the need for unionfs. * You could run into a situation where /usr/local is updated but not a jail's configuration files in /usr/local/etc. That might mean that you e.g. cannot restart a service until a config file is updated as well. You could also use the host to built packages, and make a repository availa= ble to the jails. In the jails you can then use pkg(8) to keep the packages updated. This is a good combination of only building a piece of software on= ce yet being able to keep different packages in different jails. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUD10PAAoJEED21dyjijPgQHcP/1hNsYx9+ylVaXH5St+A9YTv AUOr/cDIKw6YL3QYkBIu/Jv60ICZqdWb0GImbvjox+P966xiS+bOhGjmFx06fF66 +udf86oQT87gL+2VT+OeVW6kToh8XnrjaY8mRnAwIVL1WmEXqConpEeIVxHY/Drt VeKx2deysj8wS52iPEamRY0zz3enp6Sb6YGYn+pELPBwYyU9HzA4nk+QLNuV1JDn dj3O0PDcRdeGlHzVUQunI11ACN4HHtOIZgjs5l6axnLw1HhzZrLNxjzGJyBww1m0 QfgTcZKh1ZMER4QOpx1Cs6wB5tM1Ot3XkQF+AwynmHG2WKA9cP0zf3lcvo86HHy0 hQe/kvurUIMJVu61yGv4yonourHGrKhG/6nNTJLahqkBYJR1zYLS/rR8wNYER6rP EjN0A8q01b3C+G4Pp+4XDOzRjOqq9WRGYY0jN4TWUgMowe15yOiD0C2tEfJGJZIW yYMJNNeMmj+3xY1X4C4CH0EySb8fNvTCyiAivGzKc+PavuBUYrcVNeMrMi59OUKm ZVs0xPq9RWZI+CcoeTHaDMKN73oHMxyvBMPKdJr4yuh10caydxeMMfSo0TXb1EPB SzyUlhFZiJzn4n/A0Xh1tTE4VrjrF8Ek/xtyB2JGmNxfuE5OeOoRiwDu6M67rNH1 /JFFw77cS/LbjL/47jIW =z/sJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 20:07:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEA18C98 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A26DF98 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-199.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s89K7teC002234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: <540F5F92.7020009@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:14:10 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> <20140909215533.06581187.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140909215533.06581187.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:07:57 -0000 On 09/09/14 14:55, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:56:02 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Very well, I wasn't aware you could have multiple entries in the hosts >> files. I have been sloppy about official name & aliases for yeasrs now, >> might account for this & other odd but harmless behavior on my LAN :-/ >> .... I will make the changes as you recommend this shortly. The >> 'kabini1.local' can be in hosts but not rc.conf ? > It can and should. Set > > hostname="kabini1.local" > > in /etc/rc.conf, and accordingly > > 192.168.0.27 kabini1.local kabini1 > > in /etc/hosts. Don't miss setting localhost to 127.0.0.1, > it will make sendmail happy. :-) Roger that, I do have localhost set, should it have a 'kabini1.local' alias as well ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 20:19:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFB86F16 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 686E512B for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76C56276F1; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:19:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89KJcWt002205; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:19:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... Message-Id: <20140909221938.2b577581.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <540F5F92.7020009@hiwaay.net> References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> <20140909215533.06581187.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5F92.7020009@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:19:41 -0000 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:14:10 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 09/09/14 14:55, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:56:02 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> Very well, I wasn't aware you could have multiple entries in the hosts > >> files. I have been sloppy about official name & aliases for yeasrs now, > >> might account for this & other odd but harmless behavior on my LAN :-/ > >> .... I will make the changes as you recommend this shortly. The > >> 'kabini1.local' can be in hosts but not rc.conf ? > > It can and should. Set > > > > hostname="kabini1.local" > > > > in /etc/rc.conf, and accordingly > > > > 192.168.0.27 kabini1.local kabini1 > > > > in /etc/hosts. Don't miss setting localhost to 127.0.0.1, > > it will make sendmail happy. :-) > > > Roger that, I do have localhost set, should it have a 'kabini1.local' > alias as well ? It doesn't seem to hurt. I have entries for my machine both for the 192.168.x.y and 127.0.0.1 IPs, and additionally localhost on 127.0.0.1. And sendmail will be pleased. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[46.64.197.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id am1sm16149879wjc.29.2014.09.09.13.41.16 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:41:14 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A litmus check request Message-ID: <20140909214114.4b105ed3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140909192350.GB36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> <20140909192350.GB36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:41:19 -0000 On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:23:50 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > > In this fstab I have moved /usr/obj to tmpfs..... > > Keep in mind that /usr/obj is only used for building the FreeBSD > system itself. > > Ports are built in the ports tree. Generally under > /usr/ports///work That's just a default. > You could use unionfs (see mount_unionfs(8)) to overlay a tmpfs > over /usr/ports. I've used unionfs with nullfs to use a single ports > tree in multiple jails, see: I set WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp/PWORK in make.conf, the work directories are then on tmpfs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 20:54:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36276117 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082967D1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id p8sS1o0024XeM01018sS7k; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:52:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:52:26 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-ID: <20140909205225.GA10859@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:54:05 -0000 ===== Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 28 years of service to the Unix community. I should have asked this many months ago, but it's time. --before I go Completely off the deep end.-- how do I change the color of the cursor from green of blue to something lighter --can I have vim do it in orange? the *original* vi showed matching parens and braces only. Anybody know what to tweak in ~/.vimrc, or am I stuck? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-eight years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 21:30:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB02A3E2 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A66D0B2F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BB523CDC0; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s89LUMeI003180; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:30:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:30:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-Id: <20140909233022.e08acfee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140909205225.GA10859@ethic.thought.org> References: <20140909205225.GA10859@ethic.thought.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:30:26 -0000 On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:52:26 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > how do I change the color of the cursor from green of blue to > something lighter --can I have vim do it in orange? the > *original* vi showed matching parens and braces only. The cursor itself is controlled by the terminal emulator, for example xterm, rxvt, Konsole, or Gnome's equivalent. Shape, blink effect and color can be set with _that_ program. For example, the classic xterm cursor is a black block, but it can easily be a blinking underscore. The following example will open an xterm with black back- ground, grey text, and a flashing orange block cursor. % xterm -bg black -fg grey -cr orange +uc -bc -bcf 100 -bcn 100 See "man xterm" for details. Of course, this is for the classic xterm; other terminal programs are configured differently. > Anybody know what to tweak in ~/.vimrc, or am I stuck? What about "set showmatch"? Additionally, in vim you can set the color scheme that fits your needs. Set "syntax on" and then the scheme you find appealing, for example "colorscheme desert". To try different color schemes, I found it the easiest way to use gvim, select in the menu Edit -> Color Scheme, and then pin that menu to the desktop, so I can simply click all the entries and look at how they look like. The final setting is then set in the vim configuration file. The setting will then work for vim and gvim similarly. My gvim installation has those: blue, darkblue, default, delek, desert, efford, evening, koehler, morning, murphy, pablo, peachpuff, rin, shine, slate, torte, zellner. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 22:26:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC91574A for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E330157 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by gateway2.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDBE210E0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:26:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=f-m.fm; h= message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh= 1ByyMjXr/EYsH4KYPXnIgr+qz0M=; b=Yf+U7p9d5svPiwSylMY4mL1hVjlAu6sa 2nzoUopvf8FH+KWswToHwk30iPwxdMgyJo9rTrKVrOqo2SEIVFfy6MiZCmm4VBUu /PTD1208cLMeEbepElMsBDMZQYlqFKV5a/wxBYi9AUWkUx8YFSfObKP9b9WajK3y PDCl3L0shWA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=1ByyMjXr/EYsH4KYPXnIgr+qz0M=; b=Jys OhMKnB1mglFlhXLq/aVdc9TVr5bVi/uA9Z4rdGAvLCsM4+qp7RDhg6rDkR1IQxdB j0oAc668a5etaZ2HALPQgU3OOG0nxFmNwfKKTOm1IdSCD/uYwWGxNAvWHKAeEj0M 6Q1ayVFhk0n1lG8SCVrNlAmFMb/LmZyd6UyC87eI= Received: by web4.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 15304104700; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1410301606.569298.165614525.717CF80A@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: 61MvNEiB4YNMsu407Zb9J0Z+7QRFOPazvWKdghVXQk+o 1410301606 From: Ross Penner To: Roland Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-f82de2e6 In-Reply-To: <20140908000822.GA30923@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <1409380442.2672021.158440789.5C42A334@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140830092309.GA13466@slackbox.erewhon.home> <1410127565.3072081.164697973.71682282@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140908000822.GA30923@slackbox.erewhon.home> Subject: Re: USB ethernet adapter support Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:26:46 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:26:48 -0000 On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, at 05:08 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > But looking for a replacement for which a FreeBSD driver exists might be > a > good idea. :-( > > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) > Email had 1 attachment: > + Attachment2 > 1k (application/pgp-signature) I decided to drop the $12 on an adapter that (I'm pretty sure) will work. That means that I have a useless (to me) usb adapter. Is there a FreeBSD group or person I could donate this piece of hardware to so that support for it could be added? Seems a shame for it to go to waste. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 02:23:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B348D4 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C1A9BF3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pDxB1o00217UAYk01EP0FL; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:23:00 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pENu1o00W3nhSLa8ZENxcj; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:22:58 +0000 Message-ID: <540FB5FB.8020108@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:22:51 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A litmus check request References: <540E21A0.4070103@comcast.net> <20140909192350.GB36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140909214114.4b105ed3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140909214114.4b105ed3@gumby.homeunix.com> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410315780; bh=UxunowTVkWinoxKnVlRyFOTmLsLuHKhzgrMsrBW92gY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=BWB0OYGmGnfL3BIa/b48k03ei1wtT2I8sdNNhYr1pobb/EvnUjsHASpNPYyMhYNr6 MVc5LiiGbrkk40Ykb8NUTg5EqWMvK2BH1AZxDmrJoQw1C0ulQy73QlDRMAB5lXbkqu ZnWzyq5+q77ywHYRjau75v3ECApIh50ULJTVhTNp7b34XOzmBu5/vhNvNyvPnnAtUc Dbzfvqr7xOXyYhEhdX14MB+qV3HUVxCjcyKWHSRYzGxVl8gCaizmORiV86cihKPVoZ DlRQkEO5iMXdXynGvAOKsD34Qd2I3Vp/jkMOqyFy6RAC5N1jnqgyHYgCBkzwiIoN2o GOfR6Tshr32yw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:23:02 -0000 Thank you very much! I added the WRKDIRPREFIX to my /etc/make.conf Dave On 09/09/14 14:41, RW wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:23:50 +0200 > Roland Smith wrote: > > >>> In this fstab I have moved /usr/obj to tmpfs..... >> Keep in mind that /usr/obj is only used for building the FreeBSD >> system itself. >> >> Ports are built in the ports tree. Generally under >> /usr/ports///work > That's just a default. > >> You could use unionfs (see mount_unionfs(8)) to overlay a tmpfs >> over /usr/ports. I've used unionfs with nullfs to use a single ports >> tree in multiple jails, see: > I set WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp/PWORK in make.conf, the work directories are > then on tmpfs. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 03:39:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 421789D8 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C96B6D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.30.130] by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 20:04:46 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:04:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: freebsd-update problems 9.x to 9.x Reply-to: pjklist2@ekahuna.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.63) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Message-ID: <20140910030446767.AAC240@empty1.ekahuna.com@[10.20.30.130]> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:39:15 -0000 [REPOST - sent 8/25 and no answers yet] I've extensively searched the list archives and cannot find an answer to this. I get the (apparently well-known) error below when trying to use the command "freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.3-RELEASE" on a box (actually VM) running 9.0-RELEASE (p7). > "The update metadata is correctly signed, but failed an integrity > check. Cowardly refusing to proceed any further." All the mentions I've seen of this issue pertain to either upgrading to 9.x from 8.x or earlier, or upgrading 9.x to 10.0. Even though I initially patched to the p7 level of 9.0-RELEASE before trying to do this upgrade (using freebsd-update actually, and it seemed to work fine for that), I still tried the often-suggested fix for the known issue of older versions of freebsd-update not recognizing "%" and "@" characters. The result was that there were no changes made to the freebsd-update script. (diff says it's identical to the existing file) Anything else I can try? Here's the sed command suggested/tried: sed -i '' -e 's/=_%@_/' /usr/sbin/freebsd-update TIA -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 04:33:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66AB3F43 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3882C1DA for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2014 22:32:31 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=8XEu1qKuHPUA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KGZ8GKHNvnwxcASa1VUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=1wP-VrStbVLZNgGx:21 a=uw974UD4aZF8RAfr:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2014 22:32:30 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New Project Questions References: <540D37A7.1080605@comcast.net> <20140909190810.GA36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> From: Dale Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20140909190810.GA36353@slackbox.erewhon.home> Message-Id: <9492D86C-4FA4-40F7-A2CC-C62D0D565C18@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:32:30 -0600 (MDT) To: Roland Smith X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad2C5/1104.257) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Dave Babb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:33:41 -0000 On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 10:59:19PM -0600, Dave Babb wrote: >> Good Evening, >>=20 >> I don't know if there are email length limitations, frequency limits, or >> what the culture is on this mailing list. >=20 > In my opinion, two of FreeBSD's best features are the *the community* and= *the > ports tree*. IMHO, the BSD license should also be included. It is a core feature and und= erlying philosophy of the FreeBSD project, and a significant differentiator= from GNU Linux. --- Dale Scott Transparency with Trust From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 07:09:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69AF18EC for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2374A2A6 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1XRc2K-003Zmm-RO>; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:09:52 +0200 Received: from f052163057.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.52.163.57] helo=thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1XRc2K-003kHu-PK>; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:09:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:09:47 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: S + J for /tmp and /var and /? Message-ID: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/h8G6MOBNr/vqbZAsi4S8PcR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 78.52.163.57 X-ZEDAT-Hint: A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:09:56 -0000 --Sig_/h8G6MOBNr/vqbZAsi4S8PcR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On a CURRENT 11.0 box (most recent version) I run into problems when reboot= ing the system via "reboot" command. In most cases, the system restarts with a cot clean d= ismounted "/" root filesystem. Another box, also most recent CURRENT, very offen ends up = at the console complaining about unclean /tmp filesystem (bot systems do have a GPT layout= and UFS/FFS filesystem for the OS/base system). On "/" and "/tmp" as well as "/var" I have enabled soft-updates and journal= ing (S + J). I'd like to ask what the official FreeBSD recommendation would be to that m= atter. I have disabled for now journaling, looking whether it will help to solve the prob= lem or not. Box number one (first box I mentioned above) is a gateway system, operating= with PPPoE and this seems to make problems when crashing (power loss) or "reboot"-ing the = box (normal "shutdown -r now" works fine). Disabling the PPPoE facility makes the syste= m more robust against power failure/reboot "rougeness". Please CC me. Are there any suggestions for UFS/FFS regarding S+J were to enable and were= better not to eanble? Kind regards, Oliver --Sig_/h8G6MOBNr/vqbZAsi4S8PcR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUD/lAAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8MKgH/jQEWAHXkyy27jMnkqiejH1e tICCLdAlDwYwfQfgzWgkIC5MPHpz8a6cIFb9BAWwmof8qOw+lUiYCnOw1ir+6lL9 rDcifAyieVu5Yd37a6RUXYi9jRPq0+vRTCZ6DrRBAPEdfH60sZ0KUpUON+HwD55s ZcmVKyEC36sFtzV4l/P6IJtPDSswoHnKBL4SsqZS/KTTk46yaU+XMG0aejvHbYoM oszQB9J3vrrzq4LPgcpXpVGbbBYB8mWoQrCFyxmY/uSrcpX8OgLUgqlKjYiswjqz XAviCHFesSTQyNjPZJ3aMn0ssDOXs1jX/F2ug+BXqX6E4Tv51Ih1xdJvneO15ZM= =9Aux -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/h8G6MOBNr/vqbZAsi4S8PcR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 07:57:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43C7EB3C for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6EFDA2C for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8A7v3JI036227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:57:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8A7v3JI036227 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s8A7v3JI036227; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <54100448.5070506@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:56:56 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S + J for /tmp and /var and /? References: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iLE6JvvDI1Bfcce27WnsT142g0jMGTq3S" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:57:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iLE6JvvDI1Bfcce27WnsT142g0jMGTq3S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/10/14 08:09, O. Hartmann wrote: > On a CURRENT 11.0 box (most recent version) I run into problems when re= booting the system > via "reboot" command. In most cases, the system restarts with a cot cle= an dismounted "/" > root filesystem. Another box, also most recent CURRENT, very offen ends= up at the console > complaining about unclean /tmp filesystem (bot systems do have a GPT la= yout and UFS/FFS > filesystem for the OS/base system). Instead of 'reboot' try 'shutdown -r now' instead. shutdown(8) will gracefully shutdown any services you have running, which should help avoid dirty filesystems by properly quiescing them before unmounting. Cheers, Matthew --iLE6JvvDI1Bfcce27WnsT142g0jMGTq3S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUEARPXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn9IIP/jb4wP8N0tDLzDF0NEY/Mhmm f3lOdEIit1/WO85JRo/y+g8bcfNZQYvgMGNx5uuXnAOvrrZr3ncB15UCvKDdO9NU gZPTUyP3w4Nwr8DvURjKR/HNELFccLvuDA/dk3oZrrG6ZmSCl3Z7r9JXtM1locI8 SZgtPKDEFGRDuQSw133dDVGHdDapzUsDubS7GSWSSGwAFTI0pylVcHt/ipFBOH+f Bgb+2zRMCo2ikPEPaNIHdfDGXH+rfcGB+4Fq+73QgCHkhZkGU57tfQdeQw9wkGTL nUYBFKXDVyyjDfCAmYu9xoShAjxhCxfrPaAL4DZKGN7EqvznU6A9SBofDRXMd427 d4zDdkAs811WXJf8cBndG1kavrHkmvzraESSeYAbgs9A5qe8VAj92E4LVXYhoug1 SLwThnAv7ERLjHzmRtgnhJvZTZbp/igctzSCnelokeFkce0EYv8iZsWeF8jPfWDR +zDTzBLxxXxR4Kjy6yPAvCIn0eTPW4mV1yzXfua9xfAxMLMK2Se88TJG4nFaGQyM lCNmdNQ1hi1DKmMw5LNHvrRqBzIFboRniNzpl1oIqE6PsIwC7c2G+Lg6a9DmvEeW TFVoEScAuaRUFQRyziezx/yCvylRFuQlD2YmQ/kn4HY1BbHL63StvHd+saKin/uQ NhTZfm8uopwVpfk0Rv56 =hSVo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iLE6JvvDI1Bfcce27WnsT142g0jMGTq3S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 12:34:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BB7FE68 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46F6BBC5 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de (fwd28.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.133]) by mailout04.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F3A2144733 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t-online.de (ZYP6nyZbYhpTzhyVjFuwCfc0JvN1eS68mylIUeYih4Kjnl-Dr5W+lfroGkiUZdagrX@[84.152.247.223]) by fwd28.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1XRh5x-3OUO5w0; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:33:57 +0200 Received: by t-online.de (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) johannes-maria@t-online.de; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:20:08 +0200 From: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-ID: <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: ZYP6nyZbYhpTzhyVjFuwCfc0JvN1eS68mylIUeYih4Kjnl-Dr5W+lfroGkiUZdagrX X-TOI-MSGID: 7beb1bfe-1f4f-4ad1-9a4c-f6168baca621 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:34:04 -0000 Hello, > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:30:22 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > The following example will open an xterm with black back- > ground, grey text, and a flashing orange block cursor. > > % xterm -bg black -fg grey -cr orange +uc -bc -bcf 100 -bcn 100 > > See "man xterm" for details. or you can set this xterm configuration in your .vimrc: for cursor in command mode: let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" and in insert mode: let &t_SI = "\]12;orange\x7" where you can choose a different colour. Best regards, Johannes-Maria From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 13:19:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31DA080D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA101120 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:45965] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id DF/84-18326-72E40145; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:12:08 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2655A6412; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:14:48 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:14:48 -1000 From: Parv To: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-ID: <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.118:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=btPCBSqi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=d6ebF5wNKiAA:10 a=ffvOtQSCAxIA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=s8ef7jeFeYUA:10 a=avs_gzZRirJslVNtoYUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:19:28 -0000 in message <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost>, wrote Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach thusly... > ... > or you can set this xterm configuration in your .vimrc: > > for cursor in command mode: > > let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > and in insert mode: > > let &t_SI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > where you can choose a different colour. Thanks much, Johannes-Maria. Only thing is that cursor color (with which xterm was started) is not restored after editing or opening a file in vim. I can live with that. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 13:28:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FD2ED07 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FED01251 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330003D074; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8ADSYRY002200; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:28:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:28:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Parv Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-Id: <20140910152834.3aa4f6f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> References: <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost> <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:28:44 -0000 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:14:48 -1000, Parv wrote: > in message <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost>, > wrote Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach thusly... > > > ... > > or you can set this xterm configuration in your .vimrc: > > > > for cursor in command mode: > > > > let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > > > and in insert mode: > > > > let &t_SI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > > > where you can choose a different colour. > > Thanks much, Johannes-Maria. > > Only thing is that cursor color (with which xterm was started) is > not restored after editing or opening a file in vim. I can live with > that. This is correct, and the setting does not apply to gvim. Otherwise it works nicely in xterm. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:18:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E173B43; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D73761938; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id k48so3087766wev.3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:message-id:date :cc:to:mime-version; bh=rh2ovcJiPNhUjsGKFJ8IcQXEtTm6Hy8h2wUFvXJZV4I=; b=0XNZ2Dl/HQB+LVZUdFwqEkgeiTwgO+uBqnFYg55YTq55J6xZEZ1jy93v5OWKSy9Jcn YdFNE9r77IY+e9x8UiidGMX3XQpsQHzshuPjyd8/JpcWFz3n37aI4w59Kwaa4/g+7eO+ iKNXhhUcp/DtUvrBvsOUpRpvq9XuOMiTaIBQDTU6G9IlS9Gl7dbYbFgkmVortXkvSWMi nG5KezqcZhZIOQCRBKbO4h0PHBu+MbdPSFJrwXj2uhX8QO31bEyQ4nC9dhJDUOvwQpoI jJDCH97ZhoCSmJrYT3O0d/v888rspMilLzhjFqpCxumQJm7ahTU8k27DyF7UgAG+CTxd u0Tw== X-Received: by 10.180.20.68 with SMTP id l4mr269001wie.42.1410358726004; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.2] ([62.219.134.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a19sm2636447wic.1.2014.09.10.07.18.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Using a USB modem. From: atar Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:18:18 +0300 To: Mike Tancsa Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:18:48 -0000 Hi there! Thanks you for your answer and sorry for the big delay of my response. I sim= ply hadn't enough time to test your suggestions until now. So, lets start. > Did you load the driver (kldload u3g) ? Yes. > what is the output of > usbconfig Here's the output of usbconfig -d 4.4 dump_device_desc: > ugen4.4: at usbus4, cfg=3D0 m= d=3DHOST spd=3DHIGH (480Mbps) pwr=3DON (500mA) >=20 > bLength =3D 0x0012=20 > bDescriptorType =3D 0x0001=20 > bcdUSB =3D 0x0200=20 > bDeviceClass =3D 0x0000=20 > bDeviceSubClass =3D 0x0000=20 > bDeviceProtocol =3D 0x0000=20 > bMaxPacketSize0 =3D 0x0040=20 > idVendor =3D 0x19d2=20 > idProduct =3D 0x0154=20 > bcdDevice =3D 0x0000=20 > iManufacturer =3D 0x0003 > iProduct =3D 0x0002 > iSerialNumber =3D 0x0004 > bNumConfigurations =3D 0x0001 Lastly, you've written: > Then provide the output of >=20 > # sysctl -a dev.u3g The output is as the following: > sysctl: unknown oid 'dev.u3g': No such file or directory Regards, Atar. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:33:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EA6B519; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D93071B9F; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8AEXJ35008471; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:33:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <54106143.5050301@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:33:39 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: atar Subject: Re: Using a USB modem. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:33:24 -0000 On 9/10/2014 10:18 AM, atar wrote: > Here's the output of usbconfig -d 4.4 dump_device_desc: > >> ugen4.4: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (500mA) >> >> bLength = 0x0012 >> bDescriptorType = 0x0001 >> bcdUSB = 0x0200 >> bDeviceClass = 0x0000 >> bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 >> bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 >> bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 >> idVendor = 0x19d2 >> idProduct = 0x0154 >> bcdDevice = 0x0000 >> iManufacturer = 0x0003 >> iProduct = 0x0002 >> iSerialNumber = 0x0004 >> bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 > > Lastly, you've written: > >> Then provide the output of >> >> # sysctl -a dev.u3g > > The output is as the following: The modem is not attaching to the driver. What version of FreeBSD are you using ? What does uname -a show ? ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:47:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE39EA4A; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 297D31D3A; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m15so4598156wgh.31 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:47:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=S8YsY9b977Kq7FVhUKtPnCJnnJAm/xvBsP1gP0dqGB0=; b=VDBKOUkXSsZ7nxGBiKcfGKdv24aVm9ASlGD4tlfWefg6U9SSy5h2MMVO6fK/OzsiBF RDUbqUTTjdzLNcAHDaAfLoVe9pnM1ZrBD5LPt70CEnUCMwd0TsIiuh9nhr9RHYBMnPHY 6SCVnQ9JIU33NJBZHgHrYVtbzMQCzBewI5BKVlTSJY0SQaiNcCRg3Gdk/5qr0T5ApMKB 2IAQgQk31FtKu1wgwAeIcNYzh0ff5QhwaVQbGzxUYEt5pffLngiGzQOJ6ds5sJyOxlAs AofVlUQY0pwDvceZ/kV9Q0ARwIgK3paAcqQL4RuR5kmLnhpQlascdrNagnZL+d6bxD/1 I08w== X-Received: by 10.194.82.194 with SMTP id k2mr3703559wjy.105.1410360443338; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.2] ([62.219.134.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id el10sm2678697wib.23.2014.09.10.07.47.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:47:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <54106143.5050301@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <54106143.5050301@sentex.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) From: atar Subject: Re: Using a USB modem. Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:47:19 +0300 To: Mike Tancsa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:47:25 -0000 I'm using at the last release of FreeBSD which is currently FreeBSD 10.0 but= I'm using the i386-memstick.img version of that distribution. > On 9/10/2014 10:18 AM, atar wrote: >> Here's the output of usbconfig -d 4.4 dump_device_desc: >>=20 >>> ugen4.4: at usbus4, cfg=3D= 0 md=3DHOST spd=3DHIGH (480Mbps) pwr=3DON (500mA) >>>=20 >>> bLength =3D 0x0012 >>> bDescriptorType =3D 0x0001 >>> bcdUSB =3D 0x0200 >>> bDeviceClass =3D 0x0000 >>> bDeviceSubClass =3D 0x0000 >>> bDeviceProtocol =3D 0x0000 >>> bMaxPacketSize0 =3D 0x0040 >>> idVendor =3D 0x19d2 >>> idProduct =3D 0x0154 >>> bcdDevice =3D 0x0000 >>> iManufacturer =3D 0x0003 >>> iProduct =3D 0x0002 >>> iSerialNumber =3D 0x0004 >>> bNumConfigurations =3D 0x0001 >>=20 >> Lastly, you've written: >>=20 >>> Then provide the output of >>>=20 >>> # sysctl -a dev.u3g >>=20 >> The output is as the following: >=20 >=20 > The modem is not attaching to the driver. What version of FreeBSD are you u= sing ? What does > uname -a > show ? >=20 > ---Mike >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 14:52:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5251C9C for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C411E1E for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:19185] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 77/50-18326-0A560145; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:52:16 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E2E75CF1; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:54:56 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:54:56 -1000 From: Parv To: Polytropon Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-ID: <20140910145456.GA4616@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost> <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> <20140910152834.3aa4f6f6.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140910152834.3aa4f6f6.freebsd@edvax.de> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.118:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=btPCBSqi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=d6ebF5wNKiAA:10 a=ffvOtQSCAxIA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=s8ef7jeFeYUA:10 a=WISP94fyhCtObs7IlWwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jKRid43F7UoA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:52:17 -0000 in message <20140910152834.3aa4f6f6.freebsd@edvax.de>, wrote Polytropon thusly... > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:14:48 -1000, Parv wrote: > > in message <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost>, > > wrote Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach thusly... > > > > > ... > > > or you can set this xterm configuration in your .vimrc: > > > > > > for cursor in command mode: > > > > > > let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > > > > > and in insert mode: > > > > > > let &t_SI = "\]12;orange\x7" > > > > > > where you can choose a different colour. > > > > Thanks much, Johannes-Maria. > > > > Only thing is that cursor color (with which xterm was started) is > > not restored after editing or opening a file in vim. I can live with > > that. > > This is correct, and the setting does not apply to gvim. > Otherwise it works nicely in xterm. Well there is a workaround, sort of, of setting the cursor same/similar (to xterm cursor color) before leaving vim ... " Cursor color (original xterm cursor color is not restored; see " 'termcap-cursor-shape' help topic for reference): if &term =~ "xterm" " insert mode; let &t_SI = "\]12;green\x7" " command mode let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" " color changes in command mode only after being in insert mode " first; so try once more; silent !echo -ne "\033]12;orange\x7" " Restore old xterm color; need to physically change here to " match the one set at xterm launch. autocmd VimLeave * silent !echo -ne "\033]12;grey\x7" endif -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 15:22:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3299CA03 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F265A11F5 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-55.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.55]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8AFMgNk008742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:57 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:22:50 -0000 I have been trying to compile the ports-flash plugin for FF/Opera. I got the following this A.M., after doing a 'portsnap fetch update' a bit earlier. it fetched/updated over 1600 ports, but went OK. Is this a known problem w/ the flash port ? TIA .... [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:10am] 587 % lf /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 Makefile distinfo pkg-descr pkg-message pkg-plist work/ [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:24am] 588 % cat /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11/pkg-descr This is the official Flash Player from Adobe. This plugin enables you to see .swf and .spl files on the 'net from your Opera, Mozilla or Firefox sessions. Please see the Adobe home page for more information. FreeBSD Flash License Agreement: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/96374 WWW: http://www.adobe.com/ [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:36am] 589 % (cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11/; make clean install); cd . ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 ===> Found saved configuration for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 for building ===> Extracting for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 => SHA256 Checksum OK for flashplugin/11.2r202.400/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz. => SHA256 Checksum OK for flashplugin/11.2r202.400/linux-f10-flashsupport-9.0.1.i386.tar.gz. ===> Patching for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on executable: update-desktop-database - found ===> Configuring for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 ===> Staging for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on executable: update-desktop-database - found ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2409.1 - found ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.0 - found ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.1 in /usr/ports/ftp/linux-f10-curl ===> linux-f10-curl-7.19.6_1 is forbidden: http://www.freshports.org/vuxml.php?vid=9aecb94c-c1ad-11e3-a5ac-001b21614864. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/linux-f10-curl. *** [run-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:22:23am] 590 % grep -i curl LIST.installed.txt curl-7.37.1_2 Non-interactive tool to get files from FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) servers [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:22:44am] 591 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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From: atar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) Message-Id: <4D32ABC9-D0D0-48D2-98D3-FF1D72A4261E@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:58:27 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:58:31 -0000 Hi! Just wanted to know please if there's an option to use the ISO versions of Fre= eBSD from a USB stick since when I tried to copy the ISO file into my USB st= ick with the dd command it didn't work. Regards, Atar.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 16:18:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFFC7394 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-057.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9820C19D4 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by mail.computinginnovations.com (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s8AGHO4I009805; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:17:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20140910111010.052bfb38@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:10:40 -0500 To: atar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Using the ISO releases on USB sticks. In-Reply-To: <4D32ABC9-D0D0-48D2-98D3-FF1D72A4261E@gmail.com> References: <4D32ABC9-D0D0-48D2-98D3-FF1D72A4261E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140910-0, 09/10/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-ID: s8AGHO4I009805 X-computinginnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.659, required 6, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16 1.09, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3 0.15) X-computinginnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:18:10 -0000 There are memory stick versions which will dd just fine. -Derek At 10:58 AM 9/10/2014, atar wrote: >Hi! > >Just wanted to know please if there's an option to use the ISO versions of >FreeBSD from a USB stick since when I tried to copy the ISO file into my >USB stick with the dd command it didn't work. > >Regards, > >Atar. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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From: atar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) Message-Id: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:29:47 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:29:52 -0000 Hi! I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' version r= unning from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange behavior when I tried e= xecute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' it gives me an error message tha= t says: 'No such file or directory' but I fairly know that this file does ex= ists from the output of the 'ls -lh /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's goi= ng on here? Regards, Atar.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 16:34:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1D5ECA3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (unknown [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450F61C21 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so3951627wgh.34 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:34:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=CeAkFWMcMMj1FqPDZjAHrRx6q843OwQgaU1J+5b/PNc=; b=N1URYLwpMEDz2OnXHfI/AQjgDO5VIiDkXaXen9Jqvxj5BauP2/oJkOp1RX57Ti6jOR y5uzo6jn+wp5wvgdhU60edeNsFCZAbN2jVGESge6XdPRaYfzqYfyPPCtuO9wqh38mLWg NQh5zDUNz3kNjJZ2xK868x3DTRyNMWJnABv+On6ZX7/axJSqQJjPedGqKcLf6mPZy0GB AsoTnIohlhDR06XqYuCwvpFpm97R2ZdOHVTsIigucuLKRs41BkUg+93svITiWl7lFMf7 Q/Enjhlk7JSqL33sZzbK2Zg6A1/0Cd5Ovriiit0G61QSJ16eOC60aFK4D/PtuMc3mRMa hKmg== X-Received: by 10.194.156.129 with SMTP id we1mr16451575wjb.16.1410366861702; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] ([62.219.134.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pc6sm19133883wjb.43.2014.09.10.09.34.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <4D32ABC9-D0D0-48D2-98D3-FF1D72A4261E@gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20140910111010.052bfb38@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20140910111010.052bfb38@mail.computinginnovations.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) From: atar Subject: Re: Using the ISO releases on USB sticks. Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:34:19 +0300 To: Derek Ragona Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:34:24 -0000 I know about the 'memstick.img' version but I want just the ISO versions bec= ause they have more softwares installed on them right from the package and I= want to use them just from my USB stick. > There are memory stick versions which will dd just fine. >=20 > -Derek >=20 > At 10:58 AM 9/10/2014, atar wrote: >> Hi! >>=20 >> Just wanted to know please if there's an option to use the ISO versions o= f FreeBSD from a USB stick since when I tried to copy the ISO file into my U= SB stick with the dd command it didn't work. >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Atar. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >>=20 >> --=20 >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >=20 >=20 > =09 > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus prote= ction is active. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 17:06:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE980A3D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (mail.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.237]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 744B21F8D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38764 invoked by uid 89); 10 Sep 2014 17:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with ESMTPA; 10 Sep 2014 17:08:48 -0000 Message-ID: <54108505.3040508@pchotshots.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:06:13 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: atar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file system behavior. References: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:06:49 -0000 On 9/10/2014 12:29 PM, atar wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' version running from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange behavior when I tried execute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' it gives me an error message that says: 'No such file or directory' but I fairly know that this file does exists from the output of the 'ls -lh /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's going on here? > > Regards, > > Atar. Atar, Is it possible that it's failing to find the 'less' program, and not the file you're trying to look at? Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 17:23:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52957EAD for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCE1C1BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k14so4060286wgh.10 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:23:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=s/JI7HnCXk/bBfLdCcf7juGdu9nTHHuvJTvIUZhf02I=; b=e27DFXHOf+35zJ6nrI2rIwLyAgXZs6NnlK8UkVu8IKfali+LkhuWO5LfoVVpOiAjgu qQDG+0JszbzcQzSP28Trv6kUrLwHLvsvqNAZ4mWCKNlXiSqZbD2AW78VV/dEseQmzuu7 0rhNaOqQw+z87ZqF7Pp8i5jzeZiZmWwNZK3NQ8FSSc5U9wQbOUHmLpw1QfQD6ULE9JQz 41gIYiA5QERRcd+Z+/msLCG8bM2aVst2+iXECLL7ltIfH3YmcSGkFNqWSe3jdRkc6NHy 8n6axVjdzX00LAe5W82r9VQ+P3zt4fa7IfQlgbts1RmV5jAIn/2n4lT1VlIjmMAsDLbG F48A== X-Received: by 10.180.211.102 with SMTP id nb6mr37450655wic.11.1410369801277; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] ([62.219.134.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hi4sm19272416wjb.46.2014.09.10.10.23.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:23:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> <54108505.3040508@pchotshots.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <54108505.3040508@pchotshots.com> Message-Id: <0AEEED8F-9567-4BFC-8C62-84BA2FB2CD2C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) From: atar Subject: Re: Strange file system behavior. Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:23:18 +0300 To: Brad Mettee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:23:23 -0000 Other files are opened successfully with the 'less' command which means that= the problem is somewhere in the file system. > On 9/10/2014 12:29 PM, atar wrote: >> Hi! >>=20 >> I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' versio= n running from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange behavior when I trie= d execute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' it gives me an error message t= hat says: 'No such file or directory' but I fairly know that this file does e= xists from the output of the 'ls -lh /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's go= ing on here? >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Atar. > Atar, >=20 > Is it possible that it's failing to find the 'less' program, and not the f= ile you're trying to look at? >=20 >=20 > Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 18:09:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01F5C8E4 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA9A4838 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pW5W1o0030x6nqc01W94rA; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:09:04 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pW921o00S3nhSLa8YW93fM; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:09:03 +0000 Message-ID: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:08:59 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Request for buildworld clarification DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410372544; bh=9uLycAuhq7JCmnbElTAjwzE3LEnct3mfH8wlC124+Ss=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=OJH7REesvJ4L8/JF15ziLMDSXoa2VarxQyCzS3knlTh/fiLW2qryDIkHpSSpgDdCt H3HBOuGzYTLWC+txPc5rWPfqpTz4E34pr2lvEhYkhXrvuARVYDrlGtxt+B21gN8HY6 TEshhWtdGkL0fqKAyffeFkrC0ScFawzjjfJ4vtaHMLPtwHqa47WJMlYyMkq5kquVvM LP21dHExPEb1iAsAPg5E2NwoMR/4/LEx4Aq+3/mdwfsUTMNKBqZkrDMJOvWk7VgrF0 S9CyBM5ux5frUUYsOhAnye4I7ZzXKaumruE7KgdqLQgAu0Q+o+5cOFRcI85pv5vJWD Iy9RPHc2w0CwQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:09:07 -0000 Good Afternoon All, I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. Under Gentoo, when you rebuilt your world, everything got rebuilt. Every package that you had installed in your system including the base. Am I understanding that in FreeBSD this is a two step process. "make buildworld" simply rebuilds the base system from source. Then to rebuild your ports....I understand that I need to call "portmaster -af"...Am I correct, or is their a different set of switches I need to pass to portmaster to tell it to rebuild every installed port? Thank you for your assistance. Sincerely and respectfully, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 19:33:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C783F92D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neonpark.inter-sonic.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B6971CF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:33:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <5410A5ED.2000904@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:26:37 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:33:38 -0000 On 09/10/14 20:08, Dave Babb wrote: > Good Afternoon All, > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. > > Under Gentoo, when you rebuilt your world, everything got rebuilt. Every > package that you had installed in your system including the base. > > Am I understanding that in FreeBSD this is a two step process. "make > buildworld" simply rebuilds the base system from source. Then to rebuild > your ports....I understand that I need to call "portmaster -af"...Am I > correct, or is their a different set of switches I need to pass to > portmaster to tell it to rebuild every installed port? > Good afternoon, Start here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html Cheers, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 19:42:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F741AAB for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 025B82B6 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A98403CD81; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:42:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8AJg5mE001995; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:42:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:42:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: atar Subject: Re: Strange file system behavior. Message-Id: <20140910214205.9269a0bb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> References: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:42:10 -0000 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:29:47 +0300, atar wrote: > I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' > version running from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange > behavior when I tried execute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' > it gives me an error message that says: 'No such file or directory' > but I fairly know that this file does exists from the output of > the 'ls -lh /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's going on here? Check the file via "stat /etc/resolv.conf". What about "cat /etc/resolv.conf"? If you get an error, run fsck on the file system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 19:50:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B883BE09 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-nf-201.his.com (smtp-nf-201.his.com [216.194.248.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14031B for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cuda201.his.com (cuda201.his.com [216.194.248.226]) by smtp-nf-201.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D99FF625D8 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:55 -0400 (EDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1410378595-061c410fece81390001-jLrpzn Received: from smtp-nf-202.his.com (smtp-nf-202.his.com [216.194.251.28]) by cuda201.his.com with ESMTP id 46m1TiygA1cVEAcu; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: dickey@his.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 216.194.251.28 Received: from mail-sterling.his.com (mail-sterling.his.com [216.194.248.141]) by smtp-nf-202.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0EA60248; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-sterling.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BF43F90014; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-sterling.his.com Received: from mail-sterling.his.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-sterling.his.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nGKx2i3qLYPv; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-sterling.his.com (mail-sterling.his.com [216.194.248.141]) by mail-sterling.his.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4C3F80006; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Dickey To: Parv Message-ID: <1490805295.22897370.1410378589785.JavaMail.root@his.com> In-Reply-To: <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [96.231.164.93] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.6_GA_2926 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Mac)/7.2.6_GA_2926) X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp-nf-202.his.com[216.194.251.28] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1410378595 X-Barracuda-URL: http://spam.his.com:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi Received-SPF: pass (his.com: domain of dickey@his.com designates 216.194.248.141 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at his.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.9350 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Cc: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:50:03 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Parv" | To: "Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach" | Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org | Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14:48 AM | Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question | | in message <20140910132008.GA1958@localhost>, | wrote Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach thusly... | > | ... | > or you can set this xterm configuration in your .vimrc: | > | > for cursor in command mode: | > | > let &t_EI = "\]12;orange\x7" | > | > and in insert mode: | > | > let &t_SI = "\]12;orange\x7" | > | > where you can choose a different colour. | | Thanks much, Johannes-Maria. | | Only thing is that cursor color (with which xterm was started) is | not restored after editing or opening a file in vim. I can live with | that. A 112 (in contrast to 12) is supposed to reset the cursor color to its initial value. Using that would help eliminate the explicit color here. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 19:57:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95433D9 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 588FC3FA for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9079B3CDA1; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:57:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8AJvL7B002029; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:57:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:57:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification Message-Id: <20140910215721.7731e99a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:57:24 -0000 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:08:59 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > Good Afternoon All, > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. FreeBSD, unlike Linux, is separated in "the operating system" (consisting of "world" and "kernel"), and "everything else", which is what the ports collection contains (ports, packages and the like). The FreeBSD OS is maintained by the FreeBSD team, whereas the ports have individual maintainers and are not under direct control of the FreeBSD team. > Under Gentoo, when you rebuilt your world, everything got rebuilt. Every > package that you had installed in your system including the base. On Linux, the part that is comparable to "the operating system" is also a set of packages. Linux distribution maintainers create their "base system" from packages. It differs from distro to distro what the "base system" is constructed of. Basically, even the kernel is a package. FreeBSD has a clear distinction between those parts as described above. The base system is strictly defined and consistent. > Am I understanding that in FreeBSD this is a two step process. No. It is _two processes_. They are independent from each other, even though there may be implications, like if you updated the world to a new major version number, you need to rebuild your ports. > "make > buildworld" simply rebuilds the base system from source. It _builds_ the world, but not the kernel. And it does not install anything. See the comment header in /usr/src/Makefile for a description of the different targets. > Then to rebuild > your ports....I understand that I need to call "portmaster -af"...Am I > correct, or is their a different set of switches I need to pass to > portmaster to tell it to rebuild every installed port? See the EXAMPLES section of "man portmaster" for details about rebuilding all ports, there's a nice example on how to perform the "update all installed ports" steps. There are alternatives, for example to use portupgrade. It's also possible to wipe /usr/local, use mtree to rebuild the directory structure, and then manually build all your ports and install them with "make install". This isn't nice, but works as well. I can't even recommend it. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 20:37:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227599F0 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE62E9BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s8AKbMkU072023; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:37:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C2D512426; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:37:22 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "O. Hartmann" Subject: Re: S + J for /tmp and /var and /? Message-ID: <20140910203722.GB20274@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "O. Hartmann" , FreeBSD Questions References: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:37:26 -0000 --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:09:47AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: >=20 > On a CURRENT 11.0 box (most recent version) I run into problems when rebo= oting the system > via "reboot" command. In most cases, the system restarts with a cot clean= dismounted "/" > root filesystem. Another box, also most recent CURRENT, very offen ends u= p at the console > complaining about unclean /tmp filesystem (bot systems do have a GPT layo= ut and UFS/FFS > filesystem for the OS/base system). >=20 > On "/" and "/tmp" as well as "/var" I have enabled soft-updates and journ= aling (S + J). > I'd like to ask what the official FreeBSD recommendation would be to that= matter. I have > disabled for now journaling, looking whether it will help to solve the pr= oblem or not. >=20 > Box number one (first box I mentioned above) is a gateway system, operati= ng with PPPoE and > this seems to make problems when crashing (power loss) or "reboot"-ing th= e box (normal > "shutdown -r now" works fine). Disabling the PPPoE facility makes the sys= tem more robust > against power failure/reboot "rougeness". Just as a data-point, I don't have a problem on 10-STABLE with SU+J when us= ing shutdown(8). I tend to only use reboot in single-user mode, which also does= n't give any problems. > Are there any suggestions for UFS/FFS regarding S+J were to enable and we= re better not to > eanble? You should definitely disable journaling when you want to make snapshots, e= =2Eg. to dump a live filesystem. Quote https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates journal for that filesystem Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUELaCAAoJEED21dyjijPgNxUP/jXFOfTNs63hoUscSYZ5ZXQH Y9mtNrVK4/vcYWtmAqIlSUOADlnyFuHPV0+1fivjs27wBdjCRFpFO/nt01G0PO7t 99N6Cryuj6ylCDoa+C7GMYH+HJWmd6XcGv1dhYN4lRrFJZWd2v1IYpeUYXSFb34Y 4PUGubaHkw4rcJge/8fu9t+eY46u0IpN1Cyq/NS/Rmvt7zHIMHQcOLMRHpOhi1qN wncHzqRQNSROAXUqaIoLa8skuD6dnIK39/LFKQdbVOtJd53cff7zzbvLQZRXD4Me yHCbVrYfpSuJwHogEPAVGAlwnLhWEhZkgJuRpvWfm29LZszCLfT+Z0E7AJAMIYb9 yQpCOD9U03wpOeO0dW2q9ViTvD1VMK0JOzVI6ckCvAiEjhFaZkcQ/AogqRupoyVW I0mdmJnKgRwSwMuRRpIDbox5l/LhxUNv4VeMa1u4Qz3tV10KHT2zvjq2VZCvsPyf iN5V22y2jNOvu12NZl85hjyukZwnP9O3hcNpytGaQagddkeejNKtOlHaqhzLfzuU V1QALldroywD+VVvTxdiKDXmOvg5qKPBKEMgJIN4/B2I26gvMsrU3IwQyQsfAMzx UYVLbx6ZnFURY1XoolwZwPzuW4dmhvPU0ASEqP9RpdrS5fh+1uaQ0jurPRAV9BzQ r+LAPYoujwFPV/j2/oXD =4z+w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 21:14:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC3D19F1 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BCB7D7F for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s8ALE3Xl083783; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2601B12426; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:03 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification Message-ID: <20140910211403.GC20274@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Babb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:14:14 -0000 --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:08:59PM -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. > > Under Gentoo, when you rebuilt your world, everything got rebuilt. Every > package that you had installed in your system including the base. > > Am I understanding that in FreeBSD this is a two step process. "make > buildworld" simply rebuilds the base system from source. Then to rebuild > your ports....I understand that I need to call "portmaster -af"...Am I > correct, or is their a different set of switches I need to pass to > portmaster to tell it to rebuild every installed port? In this context, you can consider a typical FreeBSD installation to consist= of two separate parts; 1) the base system; kernel, libraries, utilities, documentation 2) ports; everything that isn't in base. Using `make buildworld` *rebuilds* most components of the base system, but = *not the kernel*. You need to run `make buildkernel` to rebuild the kernel. Note that in both these case rebuilding does *not* include installation! To install the newly built kernel and/or world you need to run `make installkernel` first and reboot (to start the new kernel). It is *advised* = to run `make installworld` from single-user mode. Note that this is a general overview. Read the section COMMON ITEMS in /usr/src/UPDATING and the Handbook for more detailed instructions. As for ports, in general it is almost never necessary to rebuild *all* port= s. Two situations that can occur are; * You are upgrading to a new major FreeBSD version (e.g. from 9.x to 10.x).= In this case it is *advised* to make a list of all ports, remove all ports a= nd re-install them. This is to prevent new ports from linking to old librari= es that might still be around, especially if e.g. the library version of libc or libm has been changed because of incompatible changes. * The shared library version of a fundamental library like e.g. gettext (wh= ich is used by a lot of packages) has changed. In this case `portmaster -R -r ` is usually sufficient. In any case, read /usr/ports/UPDATING after updating the ports tree but *before* updating the ports themselves. Follow all special instructions that apply to your situation. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUEL8bAAoJEED21dyjijPgYdcP/jex/D0xaTkDNxpTmcWiRcUd BEm25w1F29sQJlLSm8iHE9wq0meMpfP0BZZZhrF6DsJjI4cho6CV96o5qRBhUEJm Ad/LQv19V/bmKTQyW3D4ievloPb9jo4csPySGf8uPSDMHUNCCeD8740VJ/8Q+HMe SSrmEEPVsRqn5qLlZqKjlFtwvKZ07ttmKOiojEtEjMufxXTLqMcvEeQlC2VtOoO9 F6kwuV6+zU2Rc6eBiftKeIoc7sM0w8OfdpMQdfZt2fViXMbHPBR5lBlU29r2Kfqk ibdCNMl9wkJcq3y6yKrnAp5ylpdZUbhluOzKIuaQv4AipAhi/1BrfSxEh/nHHlxS J6jt44fto4uwISLxyBWZLbR6hxLBgMolzZRU8aAqjcqcJTDK/O7dWVw1/LTcfDtu MgbZHCkIS4C9jlh1Xp/7ZADWuSuoYFOlcfeGFO5GPuL36frMj5lDSrROxxvtvZ8H rmV0MCfgIEdfQ0/Ij5qJLUDPFPdHv/1A+BN8e1Rgn09lzwdoCAtbDG4KzH1T4W87 GVflc1pIjFXGp6ilv1jiRGLT7SUjme24A8XrcdLkGFIFRGWuX/I8Jhjyp6pipMQn 9QeyLj4lLt6MhnMlsphOPOccLTlVi4TTdj2tMVBOIF9d20yPkk4CtEuE93WNTW2V mKiRx6Vb7MPachQDQj2c =ueyb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 21:18:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B1C2C32 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012A8DB7 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s8ALIllI068345; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:18:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6901012426; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:18:47 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ross Penner Subject: Re: USB ethernet adapter support Message-ID: <20140910211847.GD20274@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Ross Penner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1409380442.2672021.158440789.5C42A334@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140830092309.GA13466@slackbox.erewhon.home> <1410127565.3072081.164697973.71682282@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20140908000822.GA30923@slackbox.erewhon.home> <1410301606.569298.165614525.717CF80A@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2iBwrppp/7QCDedR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1410301606.569298.165614525.717CF80A@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:18:59 -0000 --2iBwrppp/7QCDedR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:26:46PM -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, at 05:08 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > >=20 > > But looking for a replacement for which a FreeBSD driver exists might be > > a > > good idea. :-( > >=20 > >=20 > > Roland > > --=20 > > R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.n= l/ > > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciate= d] > > pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E= 0) > > Email had 1 attachment: > > + Attachment2 > > 1k (application/pgp-signature) >=20 > I decided to drop the $12 on an adapter that (I'm pretty sure) will > work. >=20 > That means that I have a useless (to me) usb adapter. Is there a FreeBSD > group or person I could donate this piece of hardware to so that support > for it could be added? Seems a shame for it to go to waste. You might want to ask on the freebsd-usb or freebsd-hackers mailing lists. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --2iBwrppp/7QCDedR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUEMA3AAoJEED21dyjijPgqPMP/0tmNEn45AhfipAdCOyT3RKD RETS2gAUr4JwTEXkL0XhxUn3YZskJeEkwzNPWlsbFy3QascEgcq8wUPs7RgOg41k bElYObl9FHk8v81uFRAcFPLO2uJ0rJP2ma1MSUDdJ876IYTU50ArMGFlf/MP79Xv K74pLiFiA+12NrIR/QdxZpNc30c63d3dO8e77n771XUy7yfNk7Q+ZlsrASnwKVHm IhJBMq/d3kVqB74nEXUYwVxSiz6w68Nm0PTE4l8hLPdsIP+B0BHpiMAUwEkK5L0+ cODEM+CpU6fb2Zt2/psTC9hKyXvOzS1SLksHV0b/j7CibNhj4RSt3VutlAlYYtj2 nN4Z2ICE/KQ6GB05ccL1fJ8GJUk0fk2ZsvsTs3oZ7kHuGIQ+SJnVKZnti6d4BKgh Jy6t7uL51dDzsSEwZ+GBneqD6oGZgpV+7Z9ZCLuDRRYwh5xBlaGZhyTlUBxk56ji t3vkVXWgOvaDH9qyQC+eXjSMSxKyru6nbUie23UbG2hb3p/BEcEz6Pf/IldOB4Ps WgiiMJ3zo1iZuIjTLvQtpf+MKXjhErY7s57fza2LuXiegOfz0lBv8f3NLr71z13c STGunZwT/Xxve9LDjnVM/bc3yYrdlV+lAdSwnM9coz0VVgp2AZqwW430r712RzNE R4xZ5pS8q/jX7q7mLc1H =f/dm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2iBwrppp/7QCDedR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 21:33:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32E73C9; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.bsddns.net (mail.bsddns.net [IPv6:2001:4802:7800:1:487:4438:ff20:3ed0]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC2CF51; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.bsdftw.org (web.bsddns.net [IPv6:2604:a880:800:10::40:5001]) by mail.bsddns.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6408011E863; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:34:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bsdftw.org; s=default; t=1410384844; bh=kCxVBxvQjG6/4ZaDytZmziG1WtKYnpSqFmsUqXEvf/c=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=PTYKqc2pW3ZrbBfILN6Ojj3Euvi5Lc9mOZBIOU/GlW+q7xpQB6FY5HPB6QxsIXpIG krvPYOFzR8oRb4jiEjH+kgmRD8NF3Je1Uwc4a1TF5tapja9yw+eBIaKovB8rLGDRuP 25a7btL4qbbbxgkQrxn5AJi8fjlAVRyScUtkcTnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400 From: James Edwards To: atar Subject: Re: Strange file system behavior. In-Reply-To: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> References: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <993ea1be9fd65cfbfbcaa7948625ad70@bsdftw.org> X-Sender: jedwards@bsdftw.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.2 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:33:07 -0000 On 2014-09-10 12:29, atar wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' > version running from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange behavior > when I tried execute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' it gives me > an error message that says: 'No such file or directory' but I fairly > know that this file does exists from the output of the 'ls -lh > /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's going on here? > > Regards, > > Atar. Atar, I can't currently speak for the memstick image, but on the Live DVD image, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/resolv.conf. If /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/resolv.conf doesn't exist, you can create it and modify your nameservers. James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 22:07:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05301D59 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA9C72BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8AM78Fl040458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:07:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s8AM78IM040455; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:07:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:07:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification In-Reply-To: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:07:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:07:18 -0000 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Dave Babb wrote: > Good Afternoon All, > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with FreeBSD > (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's definition of build > world, and FreeBSD's. > > Under Gentoo, when you rebuilt your world, everything got rebuilt. Every > package that you had installed in your system including the base. > > Am I understanding that in FreeBSD this is a two step process. "make > buildworld" simply rebuilds the base system from source. Correct. > Then to rebuild your ports....I understand that I need to call > "portmaster -af"...Am I correct, or is their a different set of > switches I need to pass to portmaster to tell it to rebuild every > installed port? Yes, but... Don't use 'portmaster -af'. It is faster to get a list of installed ports, delete them all, then reinstall. There is a procedure at the end of the portmaster man page to do that, but it still refers to the old pkg_ commands. I have a PR which updates that procedure for pkg: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=191166 Or you can use ports-mgmt/poudriere to build your own packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 22:16:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80FF6E5A for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22B0139A for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id eb12so4605192oac.33 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:16:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DMSfUOgEXZUL6v/znmM1Vpo89Zo+sOUA/do30ESfobg=; b=EpsWD4nexES3xTOEZd5rJZ9UvX7Vs1HjlvhG1tEij5Ay5ON4Az3X8z1dIn9uLpYawy kKMdlBZoWa9STtAlIveXS3fbtl53+EI+uvaY3FUxtDkBp+BnIfcr+ZhH6QnT+l9nD6Ts lw7n1AGKJURMF+t0AqTA32JpgbXkmMTviY/+rv1ulnAaN3VnF97+Pyh49eV/Xlnjqn7r CByjIXPJhTomJnRkBvjmIX01jQMTkrw9NxyoumVMu1lDk2hvEcZrnmY2b2JNPhS4XRTo JblWN+nhHoeyoV2PnLj3dTKEAa3UuWQVVtsx4pHdFSrZns+3g0LKsiH25w18oTD+hVAs ALng== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlCVW+eVR/Ij0zf7q5VFqmtnjMeXOUDOsVvrHKlf0MYxKAtgG2SKt1fQnsTYSRn/T4EXNF/ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.245.135 with SMTP id xo7mr48316948obc.23.1410387382281; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:16:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4D32ABC9-D0D0-48D2-98D3-FF1D72A4261E@gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20140910111010.052bfb38@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using the ISO releases on USB sticks. From: Michael Sierchio To: atar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Derek Ragona X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:16:29 -0000 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, atar wrote: > I know about the 'memstick.img' version but I want just the ISO versions because they have more softwares installed on them right from the package and I want to use them just from my USB stick. There are tools that make an ISO image into a bootable USB stick. http://bit.ly/1rX250x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 03:42:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4162FD57 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22a.google.com (mail-pd0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17DCB666 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id fp1so4609807pdb.29 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ryv3Qzzm1QdJomh4E3noVyVFv9HvZirr6TzRuQ4jBVA=; b=nyd42Z5synrRinejKOc0k7whNiUIIhY8oVjr255Z3OfdNdbtTCyc5QO69FqgoGYcs3 vFLL0eCnmbuxRDfaAqd5uWxI8uHAHesHKpwPex7ym0a+oZAPMo4nOxMvRQYbCWMsLAlO 3GNurK2MZOss50iDIOmK/kkRoaiBnAx48m9e6wKQp0QFhCmHrFcu9S42+oWgzY2QqC9w moOcnJHtLYZ/VG4N5wpGOX5HadZwSa7CQGPSHXwYLl8u+v4edR3BNyAlhFjj/XjOq2N+ Q+NFWC/A9asBQnPSlB1eKwr5I4F14tsRYtmFf8Yii7mMbG9ZLoF6jJOv2NmfoW/kpdK6 SWjA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.119.103 with SMTP id kt7mr70749090pab.95.1410406938408; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.128.142 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140910215721.7731e99a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> <20140910215721.7731e99a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification From: Adam Vande More To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Dave Babb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:42:19 -0000 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:08:59 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > > Good Afternoon All, > > > > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. > > FreeBSD, unlike Linux, is separated in "the operating system" > (consisting of "world" and "kernel"), and "everything else", > which is what the ports collection contains (ports, packages > and the like). This is the right definition. To put it in a real world context, go on a test linux system and delete every package. Try to recover. Now do the same on a test FreeBSD system. After you have done this, you will understand the advantages of separating the OS and applications. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 07:05:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAA8D884 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pukruppa.de", Issuer "pukruppa.de" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 598CD911 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8B6pid8081252 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:51:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Message-ID: <54114680.4060308@pukruppa.de> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:51:44 +0200 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: x11/xscreensaver build freezes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:05:48 -0000 Hi, for some weeks now building x11/xscreensaver freezes at exactly this point: ------------------------------------------------------ [...] checking for sys/ipc.h... yes checking sys/shm.h usability... yes checking sys/shm.h presence... yes checking for sys/shm.h... yes checking for X11/extensions/Xdbe.h... yes checking for X11/extensions/readdisplay.h... no checking for image directory /usr/share/backgrounds/images/... no checking for image directory /usr/share/wallpapers/... no checking for image directory /Library/Desktop Pictures/... no checking for text file /usr/local/lib/X11/doc/README... no checking for text file /usr/share/doc/xserver-common/copyright... no checking for text file /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/copyright... no checking for text file /usr/local/README... no checking for text file /usr/share/doc/libX11*/COPYING... no checking for text file /usr/X11/share/X11/doc/README*... no checking for text file /usr/share/doc/debian/debian-manifesto... no checking for locale directory... /usr/local/share/locale configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating utils/Makefile config.status: creating driver/Makefile config.status: creating driver/xscreensaver.pam config.status: creating hacks/Makefile config.status: creating hacks/glx/Makefile config.status: creating po/Makefile.in config.status: creating driver/XScreenSaver.ad config.status: creating config.h config.status: config.h is unchanged config.status: executing default-1 commands config.status: executing po/stamp-it commands -------------------------------------------------------------- What's the matter here? Some missing dependency? I am running FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE amd64 with GENERIC kernel. Thanks and Greetings Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 08:18:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4985DA04; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE13AF26; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id q5so7631430wiv.6 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=d0KJuyrw2jjUdXkPN6PvkZlt8O/fpWjkUzYKHVo6Ev4=; b=IPRbFKi0Fe2kM3cmfUPVu2nlCgfyNgN4Tnd7jRfkpRfgU2oNI9O0vS0ySWtt+YehfR Bt7pbE2FWilDnTkzN/KuR3MJXE9QE+QZUZi6/ckLXULOzBX76dZrWXwX2JxQG85sqc/f 3T48aPN14GYF3o8r3+S9fDDLSwn7wf12bGLcyOfJKq+X+iJy7VIpykWfJW2mNcIxLoE2 BpFm4fWhIcIK+u5++95d8B9E6le/Dqgz+t6qWduzDrkTtHqMsqLnAqZ24kg6KI+nNB5M lIt45Xd/zuJ9tAGPQWXCKJmjl+kPyrmcXeAMf4f1j9D23SSAQXu8+3AJLAR9GkdYizLv YDhQ== X-Received: by 10.194.63.37 with SMTP id d5mr56367697wjs.92.1410423530782; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.2] ([62.219.134.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c7sm5091551wib.12.2014.09.11.01.18.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:18:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <793B69B7-2534-42E1-9449-63B74D5BCEDE@gmail.com> <993ea1be9fd65cfbfbcaa7948625ad70@bsdftw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <993ea1be9fd65cfbfbcaa7948625ad70@bsdftw.org> Message-Id: <68902456-0351-4A75-96F6-C61B2EBEC667@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10B500) From: atar Subject: Re: Strange file system behavior. Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:18:42 +0300 To: James Edwards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:18:53 -0000 Thanks for your response! I didn't think in this direction. =20 I'll check your suggestion and let you know if that worked for me. > On 2014-09-10 12:29, atar wrote: >> Hi! >> I'm using at FreeBSD 10.0 release but with the 'i386-memstick.img' >> version running from my USB stick and I've noticed at strange behavior >> when I tried execute the command: 'less /etc/resolv.conf' it gives me >> an error message that says: 'No such file or directory' but I fairly >> know that this file does exists from the output of the 'ls -lh >> /etc/resolv.conf' command, so what's going on here? >> Regards, >> Atar. >=20 > Atar, >=20 > I can't currently speak for the memstick image, but on the Live DVD image,= /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/resolv.conf. If /tmp/= bsdinstall_etc/resolv.conf doesn't exist, you can create it and modify your n= ameservers. >=20 > James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 09:48:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E56F827B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp02-smtpout01.rb.za.mtnbusiness.net (smtp02-smtpout01.rb.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.159.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F4E0AAB for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [105.236.91.220] (helo=penguin.localnet) by smtp.mtnbusiness.co.za with esmtp (Blowfish SMTP) (envelope-from ) id 1XS0zL-000Hu4-DW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:48:27 +0200 From: Coert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A lot of pkg problems Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <2509308.9rytrV7MvD@penguin> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.2 (Linux/3.13.0-24-generic; KDE/4.13.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:48:35 -0000 This happened to me as well with FreeBSD 10. Change the file /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf,=20 change the URL from latest to release/0 Regards, Coert On Monday 08 September 2014 10:45:43 Radek Krej=C4=8Da wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am trying to install my computer today (new hardware) and I cannot = install > a lot of packages, eg. firefox, thunderbird, chromium, xfce, libreoff= ice. >=20 > All is falling on message: >=20 > Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > cannot install package firefox~www/firefox, remove it from request? [= Y/n]: >=20 > All the same... >=20 > I have deleted all packages and problem is still the same. >=20 > Radek > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 13:14:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97B84997 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E32A17 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-77.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8BDEYWc009440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:14:34 -0500 Message-ID: <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:20:48 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:14:36 -0000 On 09/10/14 10:28, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I have been trying to compile the ports-flash plugin for FF/Opera. I > got the following this A.M., after doing a 'portsnap fetch update' a > bit earlier. it fetched/updated over 1600 ports, but went OK. Is this > a known problem w/ the flash port ? TIA .... > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:10am] 587 % lf > /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 > Makefile distinfo pkg-descr pkg-message pkg-plist work/ > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:24am] 588 % cat > /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11/pkg-descr > This is the official Flash Player from Adobe. This plugin enables > you to see .swf and .spl files on the 'net from your Opera, Mozilla or > Firefox sessions. > > Please see the Adobe home page for more information. > > FreeBSD Flash License Agreement: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/96374 > > WWW: http://www.adobe.com/ > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:21:36am] 589 % (cd > /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11/; make clean install); cd . > ===> Cleaning for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 > ===> Found saved configuration for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.346 > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: > /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found > ===> Fetching all distfiles required by > linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 for building > ===> Extracting for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 > => SHA256 Checksum OK for > flashplugin/11.2r202.400/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz. > => SHA256 Checksum OK for > flashplugin/11.2r202.400/linux-f10-flashsupport-9.0.1.i386.tar.gz. > ===> Patching for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on executable: > update-desktop-database - found > ===> Configuring for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 > ===> Staging for linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on executable: > update-desktop-database - found > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: > /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2409.1 - found > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.0 - found > ===> linux-f10-flashplugin-11.2r202.400 depends on file: > /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.1 - not found > ===> Verifying install for /compat/linux/usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.1.1 > in /usr/ports/ftp/linux-f10-curl > ===> linux-f10-curl-7.19.6_1 is forbidden: > http://www.freshports.org/vuxml.php?vid=9aecb94c-c1ad-11e3-a5ac-001b21614864. > *** [install] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/linux-f10-curl. > *** [run-depends] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. > *** [install] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:22:23am] 590 % grep -i curl LIST.installed.txt > curl-7.37.1_2 Non-interactive tool to get files from > FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) servers > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:22:44am] 591 % Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me like this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 package which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, since f10 support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this correctly ? If so, are there any plans to try to work around this issue w/ this port ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions later than the F10 version, why can't the port use my newer installed version ? FF & Opera both need this plugin to render flash correctly (& yes, I acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure wish this would get fixed :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 13:32:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F31E3C6 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE430C65 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hi2so427315wib.12 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=a8xkoAXk6Mfas8mJw2SyT+LRe0YAW4Y2sRBeWFtAcOo=; b=XIvl1MmTxt0EudiD8ClTZAJaqYfV9GW9dvsJ6FStXmal158jtkj9hr2WfgVKySOZwn yRrOEhkR1xtCu+yTL9Aug4lZ5PSIvYjl0b9J+JLhTtk1XdqdkoO+/mNfHhcJc4F+aWS6 /BdCLl5X8zx+aoDOkTICwuUohpd/WTMI1EiyYWibsGWMh64yuEeHLBRflyJIyqYZoG7t za6ps/rAGbk5mLhXr3MIvVEuPQG2lrVTlJqCjSdYReGNJCSqr6X7vaS9o3Y72tZ35Hut iE+BU35n7fJ/aDzFBR8oH+6vNBDdI4dBggkQRCeTvME65YKWdacxp4D6tnj9DWfIs0gn 9xzA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.75.144 with SMTP id c16mr2380406wiw.9.1410442368287; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.187.18 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54087095.2090802@ssimicro.com> References: <54087095.2090802@ssimicro.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:32:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bqoxIsSoIw9PI5MfejDbuv8e_Bo Message-ID: Subject: Re: encrypting usb stick From: Luca Ferrari To: Erik Sejr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:32:53 -0000 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Erik Sejr wrote: > Veracrypt https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/ picked up where Truecrypt left > off in a lot of ways. It has Windows/Linux/MacOS versions, but I don't > know about FreeBSD. Thanks. Anyone knows if encfs on FreeBSD is enough stable for the aim? 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[86.178.130.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ba3sm1610119wib.10.2014.09.11.06.45.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:45:23 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:45:34 -0000 On 11/09/2014 14:20, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me like > this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 package > which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, since f10 > support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this correctly ? If > so, are there any plans to try to work around this issue w/ this port > ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions later than the F10 > version, why can't the port use my newer installed version ? FF & > Opera both need this plugin to render flash correctly (& yes, I > acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure wish this would get fixed :-) .... > > Please see this site https://github.com/xmj/linux-ports and follow the instructions there for either linux-f10 or linux-c6 base which also includes the flash plugin setup instructions. 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[86.178.130.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hm5sm1324148wjb.2.2014.09.11.06.50.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5411A89B.4010707@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:50:19 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A lot of pkg problems References: <2509308.9rytrV7MvD@penguin> In-Reply-To: <2509308.9rytrV7MvD@penguin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:58:26 -0000 On 11/09/2014 10:48, Coert wrote: > On Monday 08 September 2014 10:45:43 Radek Krejča wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to install my computer today (new hardware) and I cannot install >> a lot of packages, eg. firefox, thunderbird, chromium, xfce, libreoffice. >> >> All is falling on message: >> >> Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> cannot install package firefox~www/firefox, remove it from request? [Y/n]: >> >> All the same... >> >> I have deleted all packages and problem is still the same. >> >> Radek This was a real PITA for me too; although, it should be fixed now with pkg version 1.3.7. What version are you using? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 15:03:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2C33A08 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D33794E for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-77.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8BF3583011069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: <5411BB20.1070709@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:09:20 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:03:08 -0000 On 09/11/14 08:45, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > On 11/09/2014 14:20, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me >> like this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 >> package which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, since >> f10 support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this correctly >> ? If so, are there any plans to try to work around this issue w/ this >> port ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions later than the >> F10 version, why can't the port use my newer installed version ? FF & >> Opera both need this plugin to render flash correctly (& yes, I >> acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure wish this would get fixed :-) .... >> >> > > Please see this site https://github.com/xmj/linux-ports and follow the > instructions there for either linux-f10 or linux-c6 base which also > includes the flash plugin setup instructions. Thanks for your prompt & precise response. It puts me in a bit of a bind, since I have never used github :-/ .... I'm on FBSD 9.3, so no linux-c6 (apparently) available. My distinfo in my linux-f10-flashplugin ports directory already shows the same info on the webpage, i.e. I seem to be already using the software referenced above, non ? Please advise & thanks for any guidance you can provide :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 15:05:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB2DDC5B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s36.hotmail.com [65.55.111.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D39D987 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU436-SMTP112 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22724); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:05:12 -0700 X-TMN: [R0vzmbR1EGSl2oVVKKQrqmRRsW+LHimV] X-Originating-Email: [f.toscan@hotmail.it] Message-ID: Received: from pillow.thwn ([79.7.145.30]) by BLU436-SMTP112.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:05:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (1001@localhost [local]); by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 4b40d0e4; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:15:01 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: OpenSMTPD enqueuer (Demoostik) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:15:00 +0200 From: Francesco Toscan To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: minor sendmail issue .... Mail-Followup-To: Francesco Toscan , "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <540F26AC.7040309@hiwaay.net> <20140909182735.2bb371c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F3613.8060608@hiwaay.net> <20140909213532.34f02807.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5B52.5070300@hiwaay.net> <20140909215533.06581187.freebsd@edvax.de> <540F5F92.7020009@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <540F5F92.7020009@hiwaay.net> X-Celebrating: Building ports since FreeBSD 3.4 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2014 15:05:10.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7FD9F20:01CFCDD1] Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:05:13 -0000 On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:14:10PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > Roger that, I do have localhost set, should it have a 'kabini1.local' > alias as well ? > You can always check what sendmail thinks about your domains running sendmail -bt and then /parse root@kabini1.local -- f. "Corruptissima re publica, plurimae leges" -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 15:17:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7191618D for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [192.99.32.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ADBABB for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tds-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C463B273 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tds-solutions.net Received: from tds-solutions.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uLrdKRZ6K9Xb for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.224] (unknown [69.43.65.27]) (Authenticated sender: sorressean) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A8513B272 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5411BBE1.4000606@tysdomain.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:33 -0400 From: "Littlefield, Tyler" Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sending fax Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:17:37 -0000 Hello: I keep having to send faxes to people who really should accept emails instead but don't. I'm in a dorm and have no clue where a phone line would even be connected, even if I had a modem to use. I was wondering if there's a way to do this through BSD? Just prepare the fax somehow on the desktop side and let BSD send it off? I could get a number from any number of places I think and just use that as my outbound. Any ideas/etc would be awesome. Thanks, -- Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 15:56:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34162297 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2009F1C for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3BEC3CDC5; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8BFugLJ003186; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:56:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:56:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tyler@tysdomain.com Subject: Re: sending fax Message-Id: <20140911175642.6690e23b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5411BBE1.4000606@tysdomain.com> References: <5411BBE1.4000606@tysdomain.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:56:52 -0000 On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:33 -0400, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > I keep having to send faxes to people who really should accept emails > instead but don't. I'm in a dorm and have no clue where a phone line > would even be connected, even if I had a modem to use. I was wondering > if there's a way to do this through BSD? Just prepare the fax somehow on > the desktop side and let BSD send it off? I could get a number from any > number of places I think and just use that as my outbound. Any ideas/etc > would be awesome. I've been "inventing" something like that more than a decade ago: You send an e-mail with a PDF attachment to a specific address, e. g. fax@example.com, then specify the fax number in the subject. A remote server, connected to a serial modem (connected to a phone line with a fax number) would then send it, using Hylafax. Similarly, received faxes would be turned into e-mails with PDF attachments. You could then print it if you wanted, or simply store it on disk. Of course it would be easier to train users to use e-mail, a document scanning mechanism or PDF export from their "productivity" software, but fax, claimed to be dead, is still alive. I know that, I live in Germany. ;-) I'm quite sure there is an online service that you can use which implements something comparable, usually through a web interface. Maybe you could even register a number via "Internet telephony" and have that as a incoming and out- going fax number, handling faxes in software without the need of an actual modem. Check "make -C /usr/ports search name=fax | less" if there is something that fits into your setting and meets your requirements. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 17:47:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5166641B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1688ECD2 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:56294] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0A/0B-08080-630E1145; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:47:35 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 950235D69; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:50:16 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:50:16 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Thomas Dickey Subject: Re: vim and cursor-over-"chars" question Message-ID: <20140911175016.GA1577@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas Dickey , Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140910131448.GA1574@holstein.holy.cow> <1490805295.22897370.1410378589785.JavaMail.root@his.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1490805295.22897370.1410378589785.JavaMail.root@his.com> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.130:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=d5x7yHTE c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=d6ebF5wNKiAA:10 a=ffvOtQSCAxIA:10 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=s8ef7jeFeYUA:10 a=_4t1cQFnAAAA:8 a=40-QJ1P-HR87bA3oGbcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=BdjkKoYnL98A:10 a=v2EulsF24l4A:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:47:42 -0000 in message <1490805295.22897370.1410378589785.JavaMail.root@his.com>, wrote Thomas Dickey thusly... > > ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Parv" ... > | Only thing is that cursor color (with which xterm was started) is > | not restored after editing or opening a file in vim. > > A 112 (in contrast to 12) is supposed to reset the cursor color to > its initial value. Using that would help eliminate the explicit > color here. Thanks Thomas. That indeed does happen after I had changed the escape code ... autocmd VimLeave * silent !echo -ne "\033]112;\x7" Everything is right with (this small portion of) the world now. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 17:54:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41402AD2 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4FADD9 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFE4646B82; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s8BHs5gi073255; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s8BHs54v073252; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: more pkg questions .... In-Reply-To: <540472F8.8060502@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <540472F8.8060502@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:54:07 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... This A.M. I tried to update my 9.3 system: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:57:42am] 513 % pkg version -vRL= > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > db46-4.6.21.4 ? orphaned: databases/db46 > linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 ? orphaned: textproc/linux-f10-expat > linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 ? orphaned: > x11-fonts/linux-f10-fontconfig > linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 ? orphaned: x11/linux-f10-xorg-libs > opera-linuxplugins-12.16 ? orphaned: www/opera-linuxplugins > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:59:17am] 514 % pkg version -vIL= > curl-7.37.1_2 < needs updating (index has 7.37.1_3) > dri-7.6.1_4,2 < needs updating (index has 9.1.7_4,2) > gtk2-2.24.22_3 < needs updating (index has 2.24.22_4) > libGL-7.6.1_4 < needs updating (index has 9.1.7_1) > libdrm-2.4.17_1,1 < needs updating (index has 2.4.52,1) > libyaml-0.1.6 < needs updating (index has 0.1.6_1) > pango-1.34.1_6 < needs updating (index has 1.34.1_7) > portmaster-3.17.6 < needs updating (index has 3.17.7) > readline-6.3.6_1 < needs updating (index has 6.3.8) > xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_8 < needs updating (index has 2.21.15_3) > xorg-server-1.7.7_13,1 < needs updating (index has 1.12.4_8,1) > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:59:39am] 515 % pkg audit > linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 is vulnerable: > expat2 -- Parser crash with specially formatted UTF-8 sequences > CVE: CVE-2009-3720 > WWW: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/5f030587-e39a-11de-881e-001aa0166822.html > > 1 problem(s) in the installed packages found. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:04:50am] 516 % pkg -N > pkg: 468 packages installed > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:08:15am] 517 % pkg upgrade > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > Checking for upgrades (256 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Your packages are up to date. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:09:34am] 518 % pkg update > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:09:52am] 519 % > > > i.e. I (think I) told pkg to upgrade whatever needed upgrading, & it did > nothing, even though it seems to list a few pkg's needing upgrading .... more > noob pilot-error, I'm sure, but any help appreciated :-/ .... TIA .... Kind of a RTFM issue but I did the same thing and someone took pity on me pkg update is used for updating the local copy of a repository catalogue from each of the package repository databases. pkg upgrade is used for upgrading packaged software distributions. pkg help [command] is your friend From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 19:47:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFCFCE00 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D529B27 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-235.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8BJl6UI026872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:47:06 -0500 Message-ID: <5411FDB1.6050900@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:53:21 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: NFS question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:47:14 -0000 .... I am planning to setup a VM under FBSD 9.3 (this box) using virtual-box, already installed. To save having to burn a CD/DVD, I wanted to use a loop-mounted ISO resident on another machine & exported by NFS. I loop-mounted the ISO & can see it from the other box (FC14 64-bit server, terminally patched up): [root@Q6600:/etc, Thu Sep 11, 02:47 PM] 1040 # ll /home/ total 82 2 4 drwxr-xr-x. 11 root root 4096 Sep 11 11:06 ./ 2 4 dr-xr-xr-x. 27 root root 4096 Jan 7 2014 ../ 35913729 32 drwxrwxrwx. 2 root root 32768 Aug 7 2013 FTP/ 64225281 4 drwxrwxrwx. 21 root root 4096 Jul 6 17:02 ISOs/ 76808193 4 drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 4096 Aug 7 2011 VMs/ 33554433 4 drwx------. 4 wam users 4096 Aug 16 2011 archive/ 11 16 drwx------. 2 root root 16384 Mar 10 2011 lost+found/ 1856 2 drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 2048 Jan 11 2013 mnt/ 94371841 4 drwx------. 6 wam users 4096 Sep 14 2011 rsync/ 88604673 4 drwx------. 34 wam users 4096 Aug 28 14:08 wam/ 47710209 4 drwx------. 3 wam users 4096 Mar 1 2012 work/ [root@Q6600:/etc, Thu Sep 11, 02:47 PM] 1040 # ll /home/mnt/ total 9 1856 2 drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 2048 Jan 11 2013 ./ 2 4 drwxr-xr-x. 11 root root 4096 Sep 11 11:06 ../ 1867 1 -r--r--r--. 1 root root 220 Jan 11 2013 TRANS.TBL 1920 2 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 2048 Jan 11 2013 isolinux/ [root@Q6600:/etc, Thu Sep 11, 02:47 PM] 1041 # lf /home/mnt/isolinux/ TRANS.TBL boot.cat boot.msg general.msg initrd.img isolinux.bin isolinux.cfg* memtest options.msg param.msg rescue.msg splash.lss vmlinuz [root@Q6600:/etc, Thu Sep 11, 02:48 PM] 1042 # However, I can't see it from this box: [wam@kabini1, ~, 2:47:25pm] 435 % ll /net/q6600/home/ total 76 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel 32768 Aug 7 2013 FTP/ drwxrwxrwx 21 root wheel 4096 Jul 6 17:02 ISOs/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4096 Aug 7 2011 VMs/ drwx------ 4 wam users 4096 Aug 16 2011 archive/ drwx------ 2 root wheel 16384 Mar 10 2011 lost+found/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Sep 11 11:06 mnt/ drwx------ 6 wam users 4096 Sep 14 2011 rsync/ drwx------ 34 wam users 4096 Aug 28 14:08 wam/ drwx------ 3 wam users 4096 Mar 1 2012 work/ [wam@kabini1, ~, 2:47:29pm] 436 % ll /net/q6600/home/mnt/ total 0 [wam@kabini1, ~, 2:47:34pm] 437 % Could well be pilot error, but I expected this to work, any clues for me :-/ .... TIA & have a nice day .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 20:47:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB1D9897 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D4BF23B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF557.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.245.87]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s8BKiuD5035510; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:44:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s8BKlImx009836; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:47:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s8BKksmq094978; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:47:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201409112047.s8BKksmq094978@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Polytropon Subject: Re: sending fax From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:56:42 +0200." <20140911175642.6690e23b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:46:54 +0200 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, tyler@tysdomain.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:44 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:33 -0400, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > I keep having to send faxes to people who really should accept emails > > instead but don't. I'm in a dorm and have no clue where a phone line > > would even be connected, even if I had a modem to use. I was wondering > > if there's a way to do this through BSD? Just prepare the fax somehow on > > the desktop side and let BSD send it off? I could get a number from any > > number of places I think and just use that as my outbound. Any ideas/etc > > would be awesome. > > I've been "inventing" something like that more than a decade > ago: You send an e-mail with a PDF attachment to a specific > address, e. g. fax@example.com, then specify the fax number > in the subject. A remote server, connected to a serial modem > (connected to a phone line with a fax number) would then send > it, using Hylafax. Long ago when I created /usr/ports/comms/hylafax/ there was a public service that did roughly that, at least for email to fax transmission, not fax to email reception; Nodes in various countries. It was sponsored by prepending advertising in 1st half page of fax. I considered setting up a node, but didn't as: - I was concerned about legal issues that could relate to unsolicited faxes, that could be used for harassment, porn, banned political agitation/propaganda, or just plain bulk advertising by 3rd parties, consuming a lot of phone bill (flat rate phone calls didn't exist in Germany back then I recall. - I'm British, but in Germany, & German law strikes me as weird in some ways (best discussed over a beer ;-) so I avoided legal minefields best navigated by born natives of the country. - Seemed it might also be a lot of time consuming tedious work to run, with legalistic complaint/ correspondence in to me foreign German language, dealing with clueless recipients/ complainers. - Advertising to general public was of no benefit to my Unix consultancy business. - Running a node to carry advertising space sellable to others would have been more interesting, but perhaps at risk of greater liability. If people in various countries have the native lanuage of their country of residence, & brave enough to risk their legal issues & have spare secretarial support time to spend dealing with general public, then by all means see if that service project is still active & if so, set up an extra mail to fax node using Hylafax. There were references to that service project either in the Hylafax sources &/ or on http://www.hylafax.org which is where I discovered it long ago. Tyler's question seems to have nothing intrincicly requiring FreeBSD, just looking for a fax service, so he'd be better asking on a mail list here: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Support > I'm quite sure there is an online service that you can use > which implements something comparable, usually through a > web interface. Yes Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies Below, like a play script. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 22:23:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39B96778 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CBC0DBF for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from otaku.freeshell.org (IDENT:case@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s8BM4oNY000105 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:22:49 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:04:50 +0000 (UTC) From: John Case X-X-Sender: case@faeroes.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: comparing SSH key and passphrase auth vs. an SSH key *with* a passphrase ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:23:09 -0000 Hi, I've always used SSH with simply a password. This has always worked fine for me. Lately, I've been thinking that I might like to increase my security by using *both* a UNIX password and an SSH key. That is, I can't log in unless I have my password and my key. However, it doesn't look like SSH supports this - either you do unix password OR you do SSH key, it doesn't look like there is any way to do both. However, what I could do is only use an SSH key, but set a passphrase on that key. The only difference here is that my safety is all bound up in SSH, whereas before it was distributed between SSH and the OS. So I'm curious... What's the difference between using a UNIX password combined with an SSH key (if that actually worked, which it doesn't) and using an SSH key with a passphrase attached ? Is one of these better than the other ? Are they the same ? What's the difference ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 22:59:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01FB5104 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in7.apple.com (mail-out7.apple.com [17.151.62.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3F3136 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail-in7.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 18.52.31401.75922145; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:59:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay6.apple.com ([17.128.113.90]) by local.mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NBR004HMEI7AVH0@local.mail-out.apple.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e16-f793b6d000007aa9-cf-54122957c7e2 Received: from [17.149.230.166] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.230.166]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id C7.33.30921.74922145; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: comparing SSH key and passphrase auth vs. an SSH key *with* a passphrase ... From: Charles Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:58:38 -0700 Message-id: <08D7B04D-CBBF-4330-BAD6-2668F9560964@mac.com> References: To: John Case X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OWDdcUyjEYOF/ZYuXXzexODB6zPg0 nyWAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY2r/ApaC8/wV3z/dZW1g3MDTxcjJISFgIvHsz0VGCFtM4sK9 9WwgtpDALCaJn5/lQGxeAUGJH5PvsXQxcnAwC8hLHDwvCxJmFtCS+P6olQWifAmTxI1tiTAj j9/cydzFyAUU72eSWHRhOztIQlggWuL0xamMIHPYBNQkJkwEO4FTwE1i4rsWZpAwi4CqxIUt mRDjdSWabrxlhLjASuL6rc9Ql7lKfH/2EWyiiICMxINHi6Cul5f48OE4O8haCYHPrBJtt9cy TmAUnoXkg1kIH8xC8sECRuZVjEK5iZk5upl55nqJBQU5qXrJ+bmbGCHhK7aD8eEqq0OMAhyM Sjy8FSyCIUKsiWXFlbmHGKU5WJTEeR13C4QICaQnlqRmp6YWpBbFF5XmpBYfYmTi4JRqYBT7 Ff4z+5ocD7sHT/DTzfZ8NbOOBdlWrL/nw7rPRtT8NatyRpKr5tndR+xdT4nlzflu6335eEL+ leTOVX9PMK1vq1a7mLn+8fcpf/Kylu5yMWpW4wkXdhCs59pReOiMi6rPlYmtWqVmZftuqStp MfGkPIizKQmdZHj/tJLjU959s1crPnY3U2Ipzkg01GIuKk4EAEdTF8hAAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPXZMl13TaEQg9/TFSyOzIiwePl1E4sD k8eMT/NZPH5OncoYwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlbFx+QrWgokCFccXazQwXuHpYuTkkBAwkTh+ cyczhC0mceHeerYuRi4OIYF+JolfU/+xgSSYBbQkbvx7yQRi8woYSCzZtQmsQVggUmLhoy2s XYwcHGwCahITJoLN5BRwk5h//xgLSJhFQFXiwpZMiCm6Ek033jJC2NoSyxa+ZoaYaCVx/tsp sE1CAq4S3599ZAexRQRkJB48WsQIcZq8xIcPx9knMPLPQnLQLCQHzUIydgEj8ypGgaLUnMRK M73EgoKcVL3k/NxNjKBgayiM2sHYsNzqEKMAB6MSD28Fi2CIEGtiWXFl7iFGCQ5mJRFeBlWh ECHelMTKqtSi/Pii0pzU4kOM0hwsSuK8Tx8DVQukJ5akZqemFqQWwWSZODilGhhZjhqpean+ 7G3lTrmQdmhycd1yrXvNlhdaahnWmXisceRlXVH4gO3wcd9dRVN+CIUoXmw8vOP8vMPnVEpn P+Uvz/28f+XlvrtNn5unpdsfv/S4cqnMuenlmQX39p1Sn3TZ5miH3d9da/wfGb4xmvSMV0JN cq/UxbTFzIJ8kaV2y8senTiqX5mkxFKckWioxVxUnAgATLyk9DICAAA= Cc: FreeBSD - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:59:42 -0000 Hi, John-- On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:04 PM, John Case wrote: > I've always used SSH with simply a password. This has always worked fine for me. > > Lately, I've been thinking that I might like to increase my security by using *both* a UNIX password and an SSH key. That is, I can't log in unless I have my password and my key. However, it doesn't look like SSH supports this - either you do unix password OR you do SSH key, it doesn't look like there is any way to do both. True. SSH lists a set of alternatives like: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive ...and each one is a separate valid method to login. > However, what I could do is only use an SSH key, but set a passphrase on that key. The only difference here is that my safety is all bound up in SSH, whereas before it was distributed between SSH and the OS. > > So I'm curious... > > What's the difference between using a UNIX password combined with an SSH key (if that actually worked, which it doesn't) and using an SSH key with a passphrase attached ? Is one of these better than the other ? Are they the same ? > > What's the difference ? They are not the same. Your UNIX password is traditionally a string which is salted and encrypted using DES, SHA1, or similar. An SSH key is actually RSA or DSA public key pair which can be manipulated as generic ASN.1 data via openssl rsa or openssl dsa. For example, you can add or remove a passphrase from an existing keypair via the following: cd ~/.ssh mv id_dsa id_dsa_201409191 openssl dsa -in id_dsa_20140911 -passout 'pass:mypass' -des3 -out id_dsa chmod go-rw id_dsa ...although using AES128 or stronger might be prudent, if everything you login to supports it. (Some other folks seem to recommend using PKCS#8 format.) If you want to improve security, however, either 2-factor auth or OPIE / one-time passwords would be better than SSH key+passphrase. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 00:26:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A976D961 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13E0CB3E for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s8C0MUYl057649; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 02:22:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <54123CC6.10207@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 02:22:30 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Case , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comparing SSH key and passphrase auth vs. an SSH key *with* a passphrase ... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:26:03 -0000 On 2014-09-12 00:04, John Case wrote: > > Hi, > > I've always used SSH with simply a password. This has always worked > fine for me. > > Lately, I've been thinking that I might like to increase my security by > using *both* a UNIX password and an SSH key. That is, I can't log in > unless I have my password and my key. However, it doesn't look like SSH > supports this - either you do unix password OR you do SSH key, it > doesn't look like there is any way to do both. > > However, what I could do is only use an SSH key, but set a passphrase on > that key. The only difference here is that my safety is all bound up in > SSH, whereas before it was distributed between SSH and the OS. > > So I'm curious... > > What's the difference between using a UNIX password combined with an SSH > key (if that actually worked, which it doesn't) and using an SSH key > with a passphrase attached ? Is one of these better than the other ? > Are they the same ? > > What's the difference ? Check out the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/openssh.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 06:16:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B01A52ED for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56440DC5 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8C6GjwM029987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:16:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8C6GjwM029987 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s8C6GjwM029987; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <54128FC5.3080609@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:16:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comparing SSH key and passphrase auth vs. an SSH key *with* a passphrase ... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qUhIAgVbKJP0v2F5STSbTxshagkW4UISl" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:16:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qUhIAgVbKJP0v2F5STSbTxshagkW4UISl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/09/2014 23:04, John Case wrote: > What's the difference between using a UNIX password combined with an SS= H > key (if that actually worked, which it doesn't) and using an SSH key > with a passphrase attached ? Is one of these better than the other ?=20 > Are they the same ? With ssh key based auth, an attacker needs to obtain both your ssh private key and the passphrase used to decrypt it. For password based auth, all they need is the password. Key based auth is definitely the better choice out of those two. When using ssh key based auth, it is vitally important to only store your private key on a secure system: typically this would be your desktop or personal laptop -- which may cause some cognitive dissonance with the ideal of 'secured.' Do use disk encryption on the machine where you store your keys. Alternatively, keep your keys on an encrypted USB stick. Do use ssh-agent(8) or gpg-agent(8) (which I prefer) and the 'ForwardAgent' (-A) option if you need to hop through one machine to reach another. Do not copy your private key to the 1st machine in that situation. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[86.178.130.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v4sm4028539wjv.6.2014.09.12.03.02.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5412C4AE.5020908@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:02:22 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> <5411BB20.1070709@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5411BB20.1070709@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:02:32 -0000 On 11/09/2014 16:09, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 09/11/14 08:45, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> >> On 11/09/2014 14:20, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me >>> like this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 >>> package which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, since >>> f10 support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this correctly >>> ? If so, are there any plans to try to work around this issue w/ >>> this port ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions later than >>> the F10 version, why can't the port use my newer installed version ? >>> FF & Opera both need this plugin to render flash correctly (& yes, I >>> acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure wish this would get fixed :-) >>> .... >>> >>> >> >> Please see this site https://github.com/xmj/linux-ports and follow >> the instructions there for either linux-f10 or linux-c6 base which >> also includes the flash plugin setup instructions. > > > Thanks for your prompt & precise response. It puts me in a bit of a > bind, since I have never used github :-/ .... I'm on FBSD 9.3, so no > linux-c6 (apparently) available. My distinfo in my > linux-f10-flashplugin ports directory already shows the same info on > the webpage, i.e. I seem to be already using the software referenced > above, non ? Please advise & thanks for any guidance you can provide > :-) .... > > You just install git and clone the repo and then follow the commands in the README. However, I would recommend using youtube-dl and/or mpv. You can stream the videos from youtube with either program or you can download the file and watch with vlc, for example. That is what I do. Flash player is awful software. 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> <5411BB20.1070709@hiwaay.net> <5412C4AE.5020908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5412C4AE.5020908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:08:13 -0000 On 09/12/14 05:02, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > On 11/09/2014 16:09, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> On 09/11/14 08:45, Jamie Griffin wrote: >>> >>> On 11/09/2014 14:20, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>> Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me >>>> like this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 >>>> package which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, >>>> since f10 support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this >>>> correctly ? If so, are there any plans to try to work around this >>>> issue w/ this port ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions >>>> later than the F10 version, why can't the port use my newer >>>> installed version ? FF & Opera both need this plugin to render >>>> flash correctly (& yes, I acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure >>>> wish this would get fixed :-) .... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Please see this site https://github.com/xmj/linux-ports and follow >>> the instructions there for either linux-f10 or linux-c6 base which >>> also includes the flash plugin setup instructions. >> >> >> Thanks for your prompt & precise response. It puts me in a bit of a >> bind, since I have never used github :-/ .... I'm on FBSD 9.3, so no >> linux-c6 (apparently) available. My distinfo in my >> linux-f10-flashplugin ports directory already shows the same info on >> the webpage, i.e. I seem to be already using the software referenced >> above, non ? Please advise & thanks for any guidance you can provide >> :-) .... >> >> > > You just install git and clone the repo and then follow the commands > in the README. > > However, I would recommend using youtube-dl and/or mpv. You can stream > the videos from youtube with either program or you can download the > file and watch with vlc, for example. That is what I do. Flash player > is awful software. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I quite agree on flash, however, several sites useful to me use it. Some of these are U.S. Gov't sites (NOAA, NWS), which I suspect aren't likely to change on a whim, especially my whim :-) .... Thus, I would like to get flash working if possible. I am already using the version of the flash plugin referenced above, & it is a nogo for me. I was mostly just checking on the status of that port, seeing if it was still active, etc. Latest version posted in late August, so it seems alive. It might be being maintained only for newer FBSD (10 or 11) .... if so, it would be nice to know that .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 15:50:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBDBC470 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8143E13A for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id t60so970939wes.25 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:50:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yfJjq7pMbRl9puam3qnOF0E9HrFvO/HiQZ1wXas2F58=; b=mOyaeTnIZ1DiK0zs9wntev9ERJIw7KnK8+YXge3M8Y2SajC9P/Gwsd8XslBNjWdTuE 3jqS0Gl9GQPsRKNBpwQVkIe4w/O6NMMDuracKQcZkovJgI2bhtp+6P60OpQNsj5QvxTN KtBellMsj2pvkUWXaEnghmWh6893i/+XCUYx2jaeT2jzf3Ps8ZqixZrNaC0m0Bs7Gveh Vk6onoV0CK8bilZc1L/7ocoeuDGt+SB83FzpzNeOm/E86oXBRkatXikBqZn0fEV0Ii3n 1etMDhVXlrXO1UWAXLy9dHOrYuEfdwa5k8TvNkxSHBJTb9M5Kr3bpCEWG6+eRgGtp5Y5 qk1g== X-Received: by 10.180.189.195 with SMTP id gk3mr3538188wic.82.1410537008734; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-178-130-183.range86-178.btcentralplus.com. [86.178.130.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s2sm4979032wjz.8.2014.09.12.08.50.07 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5413162F.4000303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:50:07 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing problems w/ flash for Opera/FF31 .... References: <54106E39.7030401@hiwaay.net> <5411A1B0.7080008@hiwaay.net> <5411A773.3000103@gmail.com> <5411BB20.1070709@hiwaay.net> <5412C4AE.5020908@gmail.com> <5412FFC1.4020404@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5412FFC1.4020404@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:50:11 -0000 On 12/09/2014 15:14, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 09/12/14 05:02, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> >> On 11/09/2014 16:09, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> On 09/11/14 08:45, Jamie Griffin wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/09/2014 14:20, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sooooooooo tacky to self-reply, but I persist .... It looks to me >>>>> like this port is locked-up *fried* .... it depends on another f10 >>>>> package which is apparently broken, & probably won't be fixed, >>>>> since f10 support ended about 6 years ago .... Am I reading this >>>>> correctly ? If so, are there any plans to try to work around this >>>>> issue w/ this port ? I have a newer curl installed, many versions >>>>> later than the F10 version, why can't the port use my newer >>>>> installed version ? FF & Opera both need this plugin to render >>>>> flash correctly (& yes, I acknowledge that flash *sux*), I sure >>>>> wish this would get fixed :-) .... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Please see this site https://github.com/xmj/linux-ports and follow >>>> the instructions there for either linux-f10 or linux-c6 base which >>>> also includes the flash plugin setup instructions. >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your prompt & precise response. It puts me in a bit of a >>> bind, since I have never used github :-/ .... I'm on FBSD 9.3, so no >>> linux-c6 (apparently) available. My distinfo in my >>> linux-f10-flashplugin ports directory already shows the same info on >>> the webpage, i.e. I seem to be already using the software referenced >>> above, non ? Please advise & thanks for any guidance you can provide >>> :-) .... >>> >>> >> >> You just install git and clone the repo and then follow the commands >> in the README. >> >> However, I would recommend using youtube-dl and/or mpv. You can >> stream the videos from youtube with either program or you can >> download the file and watch with vlc, for example. That is what I do. >> Flash player is awful software. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > I quite agree on flash, however, several sites useful to me use it. > Some of these are U.S. Gov't sites (NOAA, NWS), which I suspect aren't > likely to change on a whim, especially my whim :-) .... Thus, I would > like to get flash working if possible. I am already using the version > of the flash plugin referenced above, & it is a nogo for me. I was > mostly just checking on the status of that port, seeing if it was > still active, etc. Latest version posted in late August, so it seems > alive. It might be being maintained only for newer FBSD (10 or 11) > .... if so, it would be nice to know that .... > > The version of flash may be the same but some of its dependencies may not be. I have used that method to install the f10 flash-plugin from that site recently and use it currently. That's all the info I can give on it. 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I have ordered a Streamcast dongle from Google, lets give it a try :-) Then lets try to port OpenWFD to FreeBSD with any (or both) hadrware dongles support :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 16:29:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04531978; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529C2807; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 10so1233693lbg.16 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WQ7NVMI0asg394LKzeuMxTMBfTzMjjR94NG25HbPgOE=; b=YMrPelrxw00XcDuXHkKQJ9B4qz5y9yjmOCQ+EIKvzvsIlTFnV95txjhFOs5NmY1o15 dkl+V1AuRrUbRdGuKEYpFZJYfXWZrtThSKb6zUtjuTTAW9JQpGtfX33+SZityMyrfHE/ iCMgsJ101zyWpdLs+UMyVZpn/2jWJdqRDcoJxmB8YF7ebZqZpZ2Y4vxx+n3dYFspmWcm wtOqOZH7+HKhW5hgFlfV+3Ft+yPOHiydRbitD5kFNtNro0cCBwFzJtl+SUCCo9Jsmi4a QiPcpbwpUb8SXUqFdTIT3e/vmPd9do9eLEV3EYA0eGJovmO/qxw9NhQ7bYdPIMDPCf5P aS2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.23.42 with SMTP id j10mr10405098laf.82.1410539385149; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.136.132 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:29:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: Waitman Gobble To: CeDeROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:29:48 -0000 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:25 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > PTV3000 does not seems to work even with the stock Android/Nexus > (Streamcast) nor Windows 7 (Intel WiDi). > > I have ordered a Streamcast dongle from Google, lets give it a try :-) > > Then lets try to port OpenWFD to FreeBSD with any (or both) hadrware > dongles support :-) > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > I bought some google dongle thingy that I've never tried, maybe it's a streamcast, i'll check. I fiddled around with the OpenWFD the other day to see if it would compile.. There are a couple of 'linuxy' files that need looked at. -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 16:32:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D734A86; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x22f.google.com (mail-oi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5797C8BB; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id a141so677980oig.20 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GZHRBfoUes/Rn8WOIDj5yCVk7ts3RQBOEsWB/gW45fs=; b=Q6QjftSjXLh6s76XJWn5cK8piOF2JPcvW/IlNBPYu/Pt4TdDfBSfFL0yqGHM07zSnJ 7bUYqMrR4nui+Bpj6Xt6Law61SRytO664tmZTpi/DOXGz2ZMeUmLJdJtoJlHoRVm1N/h EzPtf4sm+MS/Rz61b9qnVURGtSZfrdkA7GeRTnYkravLAv8mzRQdKCi5XH+3354qDNzp qHirzqgGYcgJjP1MoEb4/u5jQ10SmFKXb/pqKeRMC9dvCm+BnwdNpX1TxF8fOwNuJdAa leeJyTFBjNn4cflC7NzcrJHG7k36+asiuJQIYRgCnTPq7/VCJdUuqrheTEwWqRsg4QjK NTcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.78.132 with SMTP id b4mr9587982oex.21.1410539572628; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.48.15 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:32:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:32:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ruTUXlZRxH3MWfD8YevtTkgh0u8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: CeDeROM To: Waitman Gobble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:32:53 -0000 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > I bought some google dongle thingy that I've never tried, maybe it's a > streamcast, i'll check. > I fiddled around with the OpenWFD the other day to see if it would compile.. > There are a couple of 'linuxy' files that need looked at. Cool :-) It would be nice to have wireless HDMI on our beloved FreeBSD =) >From a first glance OpenWFD is a userspace daemon so maybe it wont be sooo hard to port :-) I just wonder how it would work with Xorg :-) Maybe next week I will have some time to look :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 16:39:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F171C14D; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x22a.google.com (mail-oi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC4C4945; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id e131so624834oig.1 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:39:47 -0000 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM, CeDeROM wrote: > I have ordered a Streamcast dongle from Google, lets give it a try :-) Sorry, I have refernced a CHROMECAST device :-) http://www.google.com/chrome/devices/chromecast/ -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:00:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3ABE74B for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8895BB39 for ; 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Fri, 12 Sep 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> <20140910215721.7731e99a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification From: Michael Sierchio To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , Dave Babb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:00:14 -0000 On Sep 10, 2014 11:42 PM, "Adam Vande More" wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:08:59 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > > > Good Afternoon All, > > > > > > > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > > > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > > > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. > > > > FreeBSD, unlike Linux, is separated in "the operating system" > > (consisting of "world" and "kernel"), and "everything else", > > which is what the ports collection contains (ports, packages > > and the like). > > > This is the right definition. To put it in a real world context, go on a > test linux system and delete every package. Try to recover. Now do the > same on a test FreeBSD system. After you have done this, you will > understand the advantages of separating the OS and applications. I agree, but there are packages in the base system that are not managed as packages. Even though there is general consensus that these are part of a "minimal" install, they should be in the pkg db to facilitate clean removal or replacement. In the past, sendmail and bind fit into this category. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:03:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C95DEBFA; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22362C13; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id mc6so1347555lab.34 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=loFRdEiIKfUg2I8IyTbj12D7Sbhur21OcvYULlu7+qQ=; b=IaoMp/eaC4gqLvPMSjyUVsNnLmQYOZfIDpO2ji7VMInpQJAT62zz8lEwbUjvsXveck SmiN5FX5dHrG/UAHHV+2OWXfIKrVXkmuC5CX/PWX7AzawU4UqmBkFJa9pbkbn+zqXycM sHgIntKmGhajoAZp8qztbt7NyqR7K62BSO9qPQohrrZOZcXzSlfEjamsv0UAV5lh27c2 f24a0EYmkqARshQ1lB0nmAhb7ZxPhDiBdcnDqFEixgzPQ2tAy01kwzHX3m0dMFDN1S8f z3pqesYxZZAcy/Um0PXIHAkTzxI0K0AljQBmVMoSZMNHVDZ4SXkMUc251z2wSuCX+eUS l87A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.55.238 with SMTP id v14mr9555712lbp.93.1410541398093; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.136.132 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:03:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiDi / Miracast / WiFi Direct HDMI streaming From: Waitman Gobble To: CeDeROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:03:21 -0000 ok.. one thing - it seems OpenWFD was dropped and the dev started a new project 'MiracleCast'.. the other day I *thought* I saw that MiracleCast had a dependency on SystemD, which I don't see at the moment (that could potentially cause trouble lol). http://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/on-wifi-democratic-republics-and-miracles/ anyway I suppose it would be better to work on porting that instead of OpenWFD. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:39 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM, CeDeROM wrote: > > I have ordered a Streamcast dongle from Google, lets give it a try :-) > > Sorry, I have refernced a CHROMECAST device :-) > > http://www.google.com/chrome/devices/chromecast/ > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:32:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EB47AC4 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B9A7F47 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hi2so1079803wib.0 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d/PI0CfQjotjL1HmcvJbb8/3/1Y5kNl2xXSdVOQoOwg=; b=LHDiJZ8W1wxQzTnHbYPTqfEJffjJMT97SAWgFjLlGQ9n50u8Qd6s6F5zjVfcc1NIqc dnl73+67FMFPFQLMSVpIInsmnJqKEEfPr1KYkj4fTME3xpip3mWaJ8MbNZ7bSvsmaAsQ nqsLdVfaR91p50ul0MIr7eXXf7v+FwEBBLYKcVWGusZVootcSXkGBMURgrjahKXWfDf+ KT6sM/OBjf1TMXaJR6pqOUPWq7QnaeqHuIXv7SM/YeLXAiJwlgFTYAzINLWw27uSmHGZ ICRBb6kVpSr7pFRazOxYtZtECM+w9CtsNXma2To7/UH5JB2XYtliWOxYQ+t6r+t5HIGF jl7w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.73.209 with SMTP id n17mr4313963wiv.34.1410543137048; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.107.135 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.107.135 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:32:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Hi From: Maaroufi Houcine To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:32:20 -0000 Hi, please I need some documentation about freeBSD ... I'm a fun of BSD OS. if docs can be in frensh it could be better. thanks. best regards. maaaroufi H From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:39:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78B47ED9 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 131ECFA2 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id u56so1088025wes.24 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=10zHuDJlFflZy44L/p0XnfqguSupmuW3v+x6E6FNELQ=; b=D5fsdm7XphMD7hcXAwEMHOz4NI+TS/iFPQ2yAZt4IiiPT9QWpOdvQQ9Q+QN1MlUlR8 ObrhRl816NsUoJUoC+4a35kW44tGclxz3GZT7PB7QKYtHbHzYKR4FrgQ4xIIHX5KTAMr u303Pl2T93rdXVRBR7VTUGyNKv7oYwfIsngyW0gGdBjk9n8Ioqm+XxiTS5jgBpz021/c PvmF57+1um2m1F3ZxHCBO+ErLpPGb7AAEy6JoTDXbQlNtGTwqimH4AlqzBMLGbE6B0KL p/I4qDBKugMM72dXZdbKzs6LPQ1w3t8C7iUMfVvjhWRaNP6eQJvRSHzpsgBaU4T+QhxM kiXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.84.193 with SMTP id b1mr4347799wiz.40.1410543595337; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.104.66 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:39:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hi From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= To: Maaroufi Houcine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:39:57 -0000 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Maaroufi Houcine wrote: > Hi, please I need some documentation about freeBSD ... I'm a fun of BSD > OS. if docs can be in frensh it could be better. thanks. best regards. Have a look at https://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html#french Regards > maaaroufi H > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 17:43:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50269F9A for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E3A9DA for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id w8so1036350qac.17 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=a+YcF0jfl2aS4gw+gicpKlyLXkVFRgLar6Y7Oluekc8=; b=h0UPECV3eoNxeRd4Xw4xRFpHscCBR/1f0+eTAUkW3YwVRb7iDfOGuBKCxeSvU7ENZp mVkYK1Qtty4W8mDQx++BZITQh0RJcIodO9XGuGJnhaxgYh7NQueErkPpOfM6olyj/Se/ J4w3CRkHkS9aVDWTTNx4B4d/mZxXz7G2UEE7p9zOa1xMBkzQOcYFrRbrGg7wjdCcMmrX IMRhXA847jZrP9Pl6KdM5aEQ+oDT68K855UAhuAZtByvqcalNtytupdKHLqARgOolX8a dOhTI8H4xt963tL0r74zdeUWIr6e4+vrcRSg32gLX/2e+CK1Wzgc5B7i9Mu2hAV/OgGZ Aorw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkckskgJodcYjZPaOkYCMly69R4x2OtI0C9b0PMLrh1/7qLOCyWdQrF0A87Vandipm7Z2jA MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.114.136 with SMTP id e8mr13642140qaq.67.1410543775411; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.84.41 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [70.51.192.203] Received: by 10.140.84.41 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hi From: Iqbal Aroussi To: Maaroufi Houcine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:43:06 -0000 First thing to learn with FreeBSD is doing search on the internet. Google: freebsd documentation french https://www.freebsd.org/fr/docs.html Sent from HTC One M8 On Sep 12, 2014 1:32 PM, "Maaroufi Houcine" wrote: > Hi, please I need some documentation about freeBSD ... I'm a fun of BSD > OS. if docs can be in frensh it could be better. thanks. best regards. > maaaroufi H > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 20:16:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA28CF91 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:44:76:96:27:243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0E4240 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qL1k1o0020FhH24ADLGV3j; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:16:29 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qLGT1o00X3nhSLa8ULGU2w; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:16:28 +0000 Message-ID: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:16:24 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410552989; bh=D6lW13vJQ/zKO4bXdg7HIOZSj0gJuSG6Xx5JIiLgSIk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ARV5OXA1DyqgBfz5qdjDHGWt3SzEd9/KfN9LBicjJcwp9N+SLc8420TWJEovuSLTd 5B0tBUvahdFKKJRXP5rN3Bl4QuunpX97aHjiYTIfipV7JeQ+ZtiYCM3hqDM43EeKfD 8HOrRyxO9N1OQOuKaF9XIjcjWNWIlY/lyY433HPlUkXrSDrf5x/4mahTsTqNiMg2yd GqN7bC0lqmmREIqoyOzfmQrKcRl3i/jz0jcedmDHKMNgVSYsl8IlKTb+DRvgEtwUhg x7G/h3JWBuL/F4tcsT4/OqchvaauozY2Q1SqoD+XUD4zYkvA9J4dHPKWC2ADuiEYtC K0Q2z7LGjOWDQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:16:30 -0000 I have recently (following wblock's articles) performed a "buildworld" on my desktop, and then on a laptop I am just bringing out of the ground. I was absolutely astounded.... I did put the following in my /etc/make.conf before doing any of the below: //-----------Begin /etc/make.conf------------ CPUTYPE?=native WITH_NEW_XORG=yes MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=8 WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/PortsWorkingDir //-----------End /etc/make.conf----------- The WRKDIRPREFIX (from a answer I received in this mailing list), is so that my ports and kernel are built in ram and not to the SSD until they are complete. I have /usr/obj mounted in tmpfs.....I have 32Gb of ram....of which I only used 7% of tmpfs during any of the experiences below...... Experience #1 I think the idea of keeping the OS (buildworld) separate from ports (portmaster -afdB) is nothing short of brilliance. I made several mistakes in the process...as I am junior with FreeBSD...and at no time was my OS taken down. I was able to gracefully recover and continue until all was rebuilt. Experience #2 After a buildworld, my system's memory footprint dropped by a good 1/3...It sped up significantly. The I performed a "portmaster -afdB", and rebuilt all my ports and their dependencies the long way. Another dramatic drop in resources and another increase in performance. This experience was had across a desktop, and repeated on a ASUS laptop. Is this type of improvement typical? Please advise, Sincerely and respectfully, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 20:22:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E14D2330 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BAE334 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Sep 2014 14:22:15 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=eH2gM5GdS08A:10 a=jBNZISZyCfUA:10 a=2nVR-lrW0_4A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=5mcg790sAAAA:8 a=jl_UBfLtU2jr-npwrlAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=V9bHfo9xCFkA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Sep 2014 14:22:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:22:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Dale Scott To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <32848149.33118546.1410553327519.JavaMail.root@cds005> In-Reply-To: <196630604.33087189.1410551150457.JavaMail.root@cds005> Subject: need to send mail from bsd box via Windows desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [147.108.253.252] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/7.1.4_GA_2555) Cc: dalescott@shaw.ca X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:22:23 -0000 Hi list, I'm building a proof-of-concept system using a freebsd box on an enterprise lan, and the box hosts apps that send email. I had been using ssmtp to send mail via an internal open mail relay server, but now port 25 traffic is blocked to non-official systems by internal firewalls. The freebsd box isn't "official" which means it can't be given access, but it can't be official until the proof-of-concept works (classic catch-22). I don't know if port 465 (secure SMTP) is blocked. I thought of two options: 1. if port 465 is not blocked, can ssmtp (or something else) be used to send secure SSMTP to an Exchange server using my personal network credentials? 2. instead of the freebsd box sending the mail, is anyone familiar with a Windows app I can run (on my Windows workstation) that will connect to the freebsd system, get queued outgoing mail, and then send the mail to the Exchange server as though it was coming from my Windows Outlook client? (I seem to recall something that ran on Win98 called "SoHo mail server", but will have to research later as our web firewall blocks all things networking). I'm not trying to subvert enterprise security; I think it's a good idea not to allow unsecured and unmanged systems free rein on an intranet. What I'm essentially proposing is to temporarily extend my personal credentials to include mail from the freebsd system. I will be responsibile for sent mail (and the mail is to internal users only), and when the proof-of-concept works, the project can go official - and then firewall rules and service accounts can be authorized. Any suggestions or other thoughts? Dale -- www.dalescott.net Transparency with Trust From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 21:22:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C19307 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0143.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A452FB86 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005] (2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005) by BN3PR0301MB0836.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1024.12; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:48:32 +0000 Message-ID: <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:48:25 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld References: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0002.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.140) To BN3PR0301MB0836.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.146) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0332AACBC3 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(51704005)(199003)(24454002)(87266999)(20776003)(46102001)(59896002)(85306004)(89122001)(99396002)(107886001)(50986999)(65816999)(90102001)(33656002)(76176999)(65956001)(54356999)(81342001)(87976001)(47776003)(83322001)(107046002)(74662001)(110136001)(65806001)(99136001)(80316001)(74502001)(92566001)(23676002)(102836001)(80022001)(106356001)(50466002)(101416001)(92726001)(75432001)(88552001)(105586002)(86362001)(64126003)(64706001)(31966008)(85852003)(95666004)(97736003)(4396001)(42186005)(79102001)(77096002)(83506001)(21056001)(77982001)(76482001)(2351001)(83072002)(81542001)(89472002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR0301MB0836; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:22:21 -0000 On 2014.09.12 15:16, Dave Babb wrote: > The WRKDIRPREFIX (from a answer I received in this mailing list), is so > that my ports and kernel are built in ram and not to the SSD until they > are complete. I have /usr/obj mounted in tmpfs.....I have 32Gb of > ram....of which I only used 7% of tmpfs during any of the experiences > below...... ... > Another dramatic drop in resources and another increase in performance. > > This experience was had across a desktop, and repeated on a ASUS laptop. > > Is this type of improvement typical? Yes. Putting your WRKDIR in RAM eliminates the biggest bottleneck and puts almost everything on the CPU, which is quite fast. You can use ccache to cache objects and make future builds even faster by not rebuilding anything unnecessarily. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 21:24:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E0E04E3; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from stangl.us (stangl.us [66.93.193.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B6BE4; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from scout.stangl.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scout.stangl.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D0A17022; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:24:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stangl.us Received: from stangl.us ([127.0.0.1]) by scout.stangl.us (scout.stangl.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mEiO9a8Psg-S; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:24:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by scout.stangl.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AFC901701E; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:24:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:24:16 -0500 From: Alex Stangl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need to send mail from bsd box via Windows desktop Message-ID: <20140912212416.GA35923@scout.stangl.us> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <196630604.33087189.1410551150457.JavaMail.root@cds005> <32848149.33118546.1410553327519.JavaMail.root@cds005> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <32848149.33118546.1410553327519.JavaMail.root@cds005> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:24 -0000 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:22:07PM -0600, Dale Scott wrote: > Hi list, I'm building a proof-of-concept system using a freebsd box on an enterprise lan, and the box hosts apps that send email. I had been using ssmtp to send mail via an internal open mail relay server, but now port 25 traffic is blocked to non-official systems by internal firewalls. The freebsd box isn't "official" which means it can't be given access, but it can't be official until the proof-of-concept works (classic catch-22). I don't know if port 465 (secure SMTP) is blocked. > ... > > Any suggestions or other thoughts? Can you open an SSH tunnel from your FreeBSD box to your mail relay server (or to some 'official' box that is allowed to use port 25)? Assuming SSH port isn't blocked, that should work. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 21:24:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C0156F for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E5CBF0 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.30.130] by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:24:27 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:23:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: freebsd-update problems 9.x to 9.x Reply-to: pjklist2@ekahuna.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.63) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Message-ID: <20140912212427830.AAA232@empty1.ekahuna.com@[10.20.30.130]> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:24:38 -0000 On 9 Sep 2014 at 20:04, Philip J. Koenig boldly uttered: > [REPOST - sent 8/25 and no answers yet] > > > I've extensively searched the list archives and cannot find an answer > to this. > > I get the (apparently well-known) error below when trying to use the > command "freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.3-RELEASE" on a box (actually > VM) running 9.0-RELEASE (p7). > > > > "The update metadata is correctly signed, but failed an integrity > > check. Cowardly refusing to proceed any further." > > > All the mentions I've seen of this issue pertain to either upgrading > to 9.x from 8.x or earlier, or upgrading 9.x to 10.0. > > Even though I initially patched to the p7 level of 9.0-RELEASE before > trying to do this upgrade (using freebsd-update actually, and it > seemed to work fine for that), I still tried the often-suggested fix > for the known issue of older versions of freebsd-update not > recognizing "%" and "@" characters. The result was that there were no > changes made to the freebsd-update script. (diff says it's identical > to the existing file) > > Anything else I can try? So my detailed post and repost starting 8/25 got no responses, and the post called "hi" got at least 2 responses. :boggle: Not that anyone's listening or anything, but the issue turned out to be something b0rken with either 9.0-RELEASE-p7 or 9.3-RELEASE, since if I changed the target to 9.2-RELEASE without making any other changes it worked fine. Encouraged, I tried to update 9.2-RELEASE to 9.3-RELEASE. Now the issue is some errors during the update (see below), and confusion on my part about how to rebuild ports, which freebsd-updates admonishes to do when it finishes. (tbh it was easier in the old days of 4.x when I used to do buildworld/installworld, than this.) I don't know exactly how to "rebuild all installed 3rd party software (e.g., programs installed from the ports tree)", as freebsd-update admonishes at the end of its run. Which one of the 18 ports and package utilities am I supposed to use for this? pkg is not installed by default, I couldn't find an option to use portupgrade for this task, and when I tried "portmaster -a -f -n" to see if that was the right choice, it resulted in a bunch of subroutines launching brightly-colored menus, and error messages. Ugh. Also, during the update run several error messages were spit out about certain paths related to BIND not being directories. (Unfortunately I cannot post those errors here because tee did not capture them into my logfile since apparently they are printed to stderror and I'm using Cshell and don't know how to redirect that to my logfile) But this is of concern to me because BIND is the main purpose of this FreeBSD instance. -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 21:26:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D20B8602 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1238BFB for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qMQT1o0031GXsucA3MS4Zk; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:04 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qMS21o00W3nhSLa8UMS3fE; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:03 +0000 Message-ID: <541364E7.9060101@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:25:59 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld References: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> In-Reply-To: <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410557164; bh=rnvxeUJK7g4o1dk2SozYvJPaUzCwIadbHdcY/KwHvgU=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Wt1ldxvbMBLjmy7tId0uVQFv34TE0JfA4Q/e/dPYUmxg1flWAe+NDTI9FIVS6VEzi TLrQH1aD+kJ4U7TOlNG7jXrHf/hAXVrqD85kIqkttO3rUsyOO0SkZIIQNn5Aa55Vyh G3RswPKCzXkNKY+abKq0HMlCalJ3sipUvWoTJOwObxYDD2Pr+OlPTtqn/0CUhZvg6P 6bxxWaBsc5C4SQmInVr6RVXcrX7O3xumFVBfU/E0ANu7wqmoBXsQDYMoXLSO7EhcGT xNUm26zrOG8yIEDDZ1c6YXUrf4O4DzIUlD4OrDBdcV48dzKMgeyKTpXa9fHFh4DUm5 vMxfbIeacvusg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:04 -0000 Thank you for the reply... But what I was referring to, was the behavior of the system post rebuild, post reboot.....It seems much more perky... Sincerely and respectfully, Dave On 09/12/14 14:48, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.12 15:16, Dave Babb wrote: >> The WRKDIRPREFIX (from a answer I received in this mailing list), is so >> that my ports and kernel are built in ram and not to the SSD until they >> are complete. I have /usr/obj mounted in tmpfs.....I have 32Gb of >> ram....of which I only used 7% of tmpfs during any of the experiences >> below...... > ... >> Another dramatic drop in resources and another increase in performance. >> >> This experience was had across a desktop, and repeated on a ASUS laptop. >> >> Is this type of improvement typical? > Yes. Putting your WRKDIR in RAM eliminates the biggest bottleneck and puts > almost everything on the CPU, which is quite fast. You can use ccache to cache > objects and make future builds even faster by not rebuilding anything > unnecessarily. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 21:27:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29BC4699 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6459C17 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id x12so1318043qac.2 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:27:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d0aYDYxx+XXujEAQ9oqR1Nq4jT8FxyjJsX0QnPIDbas=; b=iL3crzqRo+799mZvdqKFIyKdTA8md2OCKdk9gwmreEAL2TDP994uGcnsHUWXHNf/ZE NKBOH3lxn7G76dUfTt6zN5fvfiEQyG53exJm0p91tmcklC+DEHAaMam9z+5BmUEZbTzd WzCIF0g8R7xeumDWOQKfmgvrw8UTqot+h76zS4lbm6rIojHOxtI+GkL0UEeAEg/aB5lB bfT5cZ0LYWxow5D5w8T6Gdbi1y1zo3nD2ECiRSPFBkYqavtLpqIXKrlavVEYFZrn5RNA GLXTpaYt5XrdsxqSInSr6MQ4EcnS9GOSr9H5J2Jr1sfpJ8FlKcG0vLuMab/EZ4yNmtX+ 6Ndg== X-Received: by 10.224.104.1 with SMTP id m1mr16361999qao.81.1410557249788; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.5.145] (adsl-98-87-168-62.bna.bellsouth.net. [98.87.168.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i93sm3852512qgd.43.2014.09.12.14.27.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5413653F.1090505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:27:27 -0500 From: Noel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need to send mail from bsd box via Windows desktop References: <196630604.33087189.1410551150457.JavaMail.root@cds005> <32848149.33118546.1410553327519.JavaMail.root@cds005> <20140912212416.GA35923@scout.stangl.us> In-Reply-To: <20140912212416.GA35923@scout.stangl.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:27:32 -0000 On 9/12/2014 4:24 PM, Alex Stangl wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 02:22:07PM -0600, Dale Scott wrote: >> Hi list, I'm building a proof-of-concept system using a freebsd box on an enterprise lan, and the box hosts apps that send email. I had been using ssmtp to send mail via an internal open mail relay server, but now port 25 traffic is blocked to non-official systems by internal firewalls. The freebsd box isn't "official" which means it can't be given access, but it can't be official until the proof-of-concept works (classic catch-22). I don't know if port 465 (secure SMTP) is blocked. >> ... >> >> Any suggestions or other thoughts? > Can you open an SSH tunnel from your FreeBSD box to your mail relay > server (or to some 'official' box that is allowed to use port 25)? > Assuming SSH port isn't blocked, that should work. > > Alex > A quick look at an online manual suggests ssmtp supports AUTH and encryption. Check the man pages for your installed ssmtp and ssmtp.conf for details. -- Noel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 12 22:20:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD7D2278 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0112.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B835195 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005] (2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005) by CY1PR0301MB0842.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.148) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1029.13; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:06:31 +0000 Message-ID: <54136E62.2010600@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:06:26 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld References: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> <541364E7.9060101@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <541364E7.9060101@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0067.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.152.163) To CY1PR0301MB0842.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.148) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0332AACBC3 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(51704005)(199003)(189002)(24454002)(31966008)(74502001)(74662001)(83322001)(80316001)(23676002)(77982001)(46102001)(81342001)(65956001)(81542001)(20776003)(65806001)(80022001)(83072002)(85852003)(87976001)(64706001)(92566001)(76482001)(92726001)(86362001)(47776003)(79102001)(21056001)(42186005)(77096002)(64126003)(50466002)(75432001)(4396001)(95666004)(99136001)(99396002)(76176999)(65816999)(33656002)(85306004)(87266999)(106356001)(102836001)(50986999)(54356999)(88552001)(97736003)(83506001)(89122001)(107886001)(59896002)(101416001)(110136001)(107046002)(2351001)(90102001)(105586002)(89472002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB0842; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:29ad:4147:aab1:2005]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:20:51 -0000 On 2014.09.12 16:25, Dave Babb wrote: > Thank you for the reply... > > But what I was referring to, was the behavior of the system post > rebuild, post reboot.....It seems much more perky... > Oh. It wasn't clear that you meant the resulting binaries. That would have to be caused by something else. Perhaps something was slowing it down before. For example, -CURRENT has WITNESS enabled by default, which has a significant performance cost. If you switched from it to a release, it would no longer be enabled unless you explicitly enabled it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 00:08:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BE7F744 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37D5FD87 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8D089TT045579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:08:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s8D089MV045576; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:08:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:08:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andrew Berg Subject: Re: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld In-Reply-To: <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> Message-ID: References: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> <54135C19.8080701@my.hennepintech.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:08:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:08:12 -0000 On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.12 15:16, Dave Babb wrote: >> The WRKDIRPREFIX (from a answer I received in this mailing list), is so >> that my ports and kernel are built in ram and not to the SSD until they >> are complete. I have /usr/obj mounted in tmpfs.....I have 32Gb of >> ram....of which I only used 7% of tmpfs during any of the experiences >> below...... > ... >> Another dramatic drop in resources and another increase in performance. >> >> This experience was had across a desktop, and repeated on a ASUS laptop. >> >> Is this type of improvement typical? > Yes. Putting your WRKDIR in RAM eliminates the biggest bottleneck and puts > almost everything on the CPU, which is quite fast. You can use ccache to cache > objects and make future builds even faster by not rebuilding anything > unnecessarily. ccache does not help much or at all with Clang. Using NO_CLEAN can be even more effective, as long as /usr/obj is kept around. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 01:02:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25270F97 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x233.google.com (mail-qc0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD0AD25C for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id i17so1646623qcy.10 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j60jA2QmMo8H2XbpxB/FPjEBKwwf9b/TKO0czF20MdY=; b=Q6uzmHQhi52+TP9j7lItJCWPmd5fCKkyhoFT4naWpvrJe/0PEKI9UWDbE/8xq9L35z A4LxZW6E/KQcUelklaeom+Hr4BVPJRqPL/N8xiiz/0GgqBCoTZ/CmpKvfGdFxqbgzA97 bx3L3QEu5pFh0XVHWpdJs3ykfcZdI5lIM6MSQoqYWG0jSJsdJ6ogYthPZZeeCb/HMAoP nm6bOdChsWF8LB0tUg0sMo0m/6s9r+pvxmal5uxjZZeWoYsh6TOrmGurG8wbMi2ErD+0 SLU3NFUOfdyzplvArpLCapjK1hu6Lyg/3YWrij/zMlyOH/zzzsy+1DaoIsTktzzUNR2I vmJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.5.1 with SMTP id 1mr17909839qat.30.1410570123804; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.10.198 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Repository Search Order From: Dan Lists To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:02:05 -0000 man pkg.conf states: Repositories are prioritized in the order they are found on the REPOS_DIR search path, with individual repository configuration files in the same directory processed in alphabetical order. Earlier files take prece- dence, meaning that packages will be downloaded from them preferentially where the same package is available from several repositories. This is not true, but I would like it to be. # ls /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ 00_Local.conf 80_zzz.conf 90_fff.conf 99_mmm.conf FreeBSD.conf So the order should be local, zzz, fff, mmm. Repositories: mmm: { url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/mmm", enabled : yes } fff: { url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/fff", enabled : yes } local: { url : "file:///usr/ports/packages", enabled : yes } zzz: { url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/zzz", enabled : yes } The order has no relation to alphabetical order at all. Interestingly, if I use find (unsorted), it matches the repository order! # find /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/99_mmm.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/90_fff.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/00_Local.conf /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/80_zzz.conf I quick look at the source shows that load_repo_files is just reading the files in the order they are in the directory table: while ((ent = readdir(d))) { ... } Can we get the repo config files sorted like the docs say? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 01:13:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1743D133 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s24.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5ACB357 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU404-EAS409 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22724); Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:12:50 -0700 X-TMN: [nIScgtR8142o7giWsTGnPLBTJrcLM9Qu] X-Originating-Email: [meikai3548208@msn.cn] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: MeiKai To: "=?utf-8?Q?freebsd-questions@freebsd.org?=" Subject: =?utf-8?Q?freebsd_framebuff?= Importance: Normal Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:08:54 +0000 Sender: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2014 01:12:50.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[D69469F0:01CFCEEF] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:13:59 -0000 DQoNCkRvZXMgZnJlZWJzZCBoYXMgZnJhbWVidWZmZXIgYXMgbGludXg/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 02:14:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1109400 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 02:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x229.google.com (mail-qa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DC40989 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 02:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id f12so1655585qad.14 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:14:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wHYFG7CeaqZgctn7q8VMJr016q1zEC6xy42dCYyv8EE=; b=ezyjoNLelOay+J8oyF0FOts3wEykVcz/Kq5lA9XoGTJTKjU7CfeuXbK7u7k4/AefcZ RkUmlxCYodlqpqQM6lIBxxqNWEKj0sobqh1kOdMlGoyYmxVN8YIJSxGFZyzt9Wdi8TdO wkLhzHbNWixDoV+VmyJl9mgWMyKqAqzWi+5KSgs1ZQUXhgR79/TTyl+QqnezxhucWzT3 tQ0w7wBpqgSi59w2e933o/CRgIYtM9areX4GC8qdFYHKQ7NcKoaTVK3MLJKwtwBEadpM GgGYG6GNbvBBRQYpoJwVrSm+CBnhmfsDkXa2LkbI/VfUfsxeZPL4DtjhwM0Xvqc9guKw GPTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.96.86 with SMTP id j80mr12655978qge.106.1410574491335; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.10.198 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:14:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repository Search Order From: Dan Lists To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 02:14:52 -0000 Attached is a proof of concept patch that handles the sorting. For production, the repos array would need bounds checking, and the 1024 should be a define. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Dan Lists wrote: > man pkg.conf states: > > Repositories are prioritized in the order they are found on the > REPOS_DIR > search path, with individual repository configuration files in the > same > directory processed in alphabetical order. Earlier files take prece- > dence, meaning that packages will be downloaded from them > preferentially > where the same package is available from several repositories. > > This is not true, but I would like it to be. > > # ls /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ > 00_Local.conf 80_zzz.conf 90_fff.conf 99_mmm.conf FreeBSD.conf > > So the order should be local, zzz, fff, mmm. > > Repositories: > mmm: { > url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/mmm", > enabled : yes > } > fff: { > url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/fff", > enabled : yes > } > local: { > url : "file:///usr/ports/packages", > enabled : yes > } > zzz: { > url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/zzz", > enabled : yes > } > > The order has no relation to alphabetical order at all. Interestingly, > if I use find (unsorted), it matches the repository order! > > # find /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/99_mmm.conf > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/90_fff.conf > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/00_Local.conf > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/80_zzz.conf > > I quick look at the source shows that load_repo_files is just reading the > files in the order they are in the directory table: > > while ((ent = readdir(d))) { > ... > } > > Can we get the repo config files sorted like the docs say? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 04:00:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9BD759A for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B399303 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-27.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8D40alM011919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:00:36 -0500 Message-ID: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:06:50 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:00:43 -0000 .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I should be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks like the device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any issues w/ this procedure ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 04:09:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B958D686 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22a.google.com (mail-qa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 778D9345 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j7so1751502qaq.15 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:09:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rAsX6sIWxO2RdsZ7kqTzdAJdmtcOEJKUfJkp21cOT/s=; b=moVbiTbnwxuaO9qpjmiOM06RHFA3aZYXqrQkZs6e/CtWnnsQljrKSj5wpoNYmQyJR1 LDgXIjzgeQbaw1KLsLF630QoL6FKDcfFxAudVs5LVtLskfzz2m7u0i7lOgSolxOju1xe vVnQt1dgnSoR/ueVEwBDsU2RbglXnwOmi50tyn03J3wH/AFBWHYFMj1r/di67ASB6Dcp mnC6Qji1puso7I+f2BDuuBsHM5yqlGJDxk7e39a08bVHCUT70nhUu8WGMVP7QA+brFvv KEYz3HdrMkqvhrwmuh0xrwmnOZrR8KPvyxmYrQZdrLtP8aLIFYKJT/MsTZqsx01tpDE1 FUug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.104.1 with SMTP id m1mr18744648qao.81.1410581383532; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.10.198 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:09:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repository Search Order From: Dan Lists To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:09:44 -0000 Looks like the list scrubbed the attachment. Here is the patch. --- libpkg/pkg_config.c.orig 2014-09-12 20:02:24.292995291 -0500 +++ libpkg/pkg_config.c 2014-09-12 21:08:07.945030287 -0500 @@ -592,6 +592,13 @@ ucl_object_unref(obj); } +int cmp(const void *a, const void *b) +{ + const char **ia = (const char **)a; + const char **ib = (const char **)b; + return strcmp(*ia, *ib); +} + static void load_repo_files(const char *repodir) { @@ -600,6 +607,8 @@ char *p; size_t n; char path[MAXPATHLEN]; + char *repos[1024]; + int r=0; if ((d = opendir(repodir)) == NULL) return; @@ -610,14 +619,26 @@ continue; p = &ent->d_name[n - 5]; if (strcmp(p, ".conf") == 0) { - snprintf(path, sizeof(path), "%s%s%s", + repos[r]=malloc(n+1); + snprintf(repos[r], n+1, ent->d_name); + r++; + } + } + closedir(d); + + if( r == 0 ) + return; + + qsort(repos, r, sizeof(char *), cmp); + + for( int i=0 ; i < r ; i++ ){ + snprintf(path, sizeof(path), "%s%s%s", repodir, repodir[strlen(repodir) - 1] == '/' ? "" : "/", - ent->d_name); + repos[i]); load_repo_file(path); + free(repos[i]); } - } - closedir(d); } static void On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dan Lists wrote: > Attached is a proof of concept patch that handles the sorting. For > production, the repos array would need bounds checking, and the 1024 should > be a define. > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Dan Lists wrote: > >> man pkg.conf states: >> >> Repositories are prioritized in the order they are found on the >> REPOS_DIR >> search path, with individual repository configuration files in the >> same >> directory processed in alphabetical order. Earlier files take prece- >> dence, meaning that packages will be downloaded from them >> preferentially >> where the same package is available from several repositories. >> >> This is not true, but I would like it to be. >> >> # ls /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ >> 00_Local.conf 80_zzz.conf 90_fff.conf 99_mmm.conf FreeBSD.conf >> >> So the order should be local, zzz, fff, mmm. >> >> Repositories: >> mmm: { >> url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/mmm", >> enabled : yes >> } >> fff: { >> url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/fff", >> enabled : yes >> } >> local: { >> url : "file:///usr/ports/packages", >> enabled : yes >> } >> zzz: { >> url : "http://some.dom/freebsd:8:x86:64/zzz", >> enabled : yes >> } >> >> The order has no relation to alphabetical order at all. Interestingly, >> if I use find (unsorted), it matches the repository order! >> >> # find /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/99_mmm.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/90_fff.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/00_Local.conf >> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/80_zzz.conf >> >> I quick look at the source shows that load_repo_files is just reading the >> files in the order they are in the directory table: >> >> while ((ent = readdir(d))) { >> ... >> } >> >> Can we get the repo config files sorted like the docs say? >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 04:23:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 696A1A89 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37ABC7D3 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id qUPP1o0010FhH2401UPSLQ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:26 +0000 Received: from Curly-Sr.dbis.net ([50.183.226.175]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qUPR1o0043nhSLa8UUPR1G; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:26 +0000 Message-ID: <5413C6B9.3090700@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:23:21 -0600 From: Dave Babb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... References: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020400080600040402030809" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1410582206; bh=V6iMMvZ606KeIYrLTbL3TiyMsKv9Oy6rzqjo5DIHqiE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Ogr34PRDvIe57hT5dWTa+UaLaAH/zEgA8WbMN1SaHXMmb+mvBQ1jjNYmK5uf5ndmZ 4qGKl5V870RcjY2xdcr86jl+rE/MBKHKlSXubj/SSvRUEEuqpHzIwCMBH7un/MX4xq oAmKhtjWtUrjjq901/r2Z3W9aXQ7F4TvIixeEHK81J0N1oddF0EoZlB0duRb94sqJu UM3i9ZSky4tpNyeREhwH7v9actdIEuGBFI7C9DYq22ZrMEoEbLZue0dmIdzxfxr7yj SBrlNL6sGJyRljjTuntgvkCTGKobmfQSiVadRNilKgtjhsQ9RGrJmSejUcmkaw0XWJ ICE6hGT2M8Mug== X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 04:23:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020400080600040402030809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This should help you. I use tmpfs for /tmp, I use tmpfs for a RamDisk where I do a lot of small compilations, and I also use tmpfs for my /usr/obj tree. I have an SSD that I want to protect at all costs. tmpfs will use half of your ram before going to swap. In my case, I have 32Gb of ram and no swap. I just did a buildworld, followed by a portmaster -af. At the worst case...I was using 7% of my tmpfs ram, according to df -h....7 % of 16Gb is only 1.12 Gb. So I had no issue doing some heavy duty system rebuilding from ram......via tmpfs. I did this the long way because I needed the experience...I understand and have been told that there are easier and shorter ways.....But I did it to learn about rebuilding world which to date I had never done. Hope this helps! Dave On 09/12/14 22:06, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for > performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added > 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out > what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen automatically > upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I should be using. The > man page gives the mount command, which looks like the device is > called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any issues w/ this > procedure ? TIA .... > > --------------020400080600040402030809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="fstab" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fstab" # Daves customized fstab for FreeBSD # # # First Lines are for system required entries # # # # keep temporary files and in ram rather than wear out the SSD # # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=01777 0 0 tmpfs /usr/home/dcbdbis/RamDisk tmpfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /usr/obj tmpfs rw,mode=01777 0 0 # Keeps OpenJDK happy and some linux apps as well fdesc /dev/fd fdescfs rw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 # ------------------------------------------------------- # End of system level fstab entries, now on to the devices # ------------------------------------------------------- # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# # /dev/ada0p2 is the root drive /dev/ada0p2 / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 # /dev/ada1p1, Backup-1 /dev/gpt/Backup-1 /media/Backup-1 ufs rw,noatime 0 2 # /dev/ada2p1, Backup-2 /dev/gpt/Backup-2 /media/Backup-2 ufs rw,noatime 0 2 # /dev/ada3p3, Misc storage and VM's /dev/gpt/Misc /media/Misc ufs rw,noatime 0 2 --------------020400080600040402030809-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 06:19:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6650DBB6 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4CBD2 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1XSgft-000sKq-OZ>; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:19:09 +0200 Received: from g225187182.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.225.187.182] helo=thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1XSgft-003x8Z-MK>; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:19:09 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:19:05 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: S + J for /tmp and /var and /? Message-ID: <20140913081905.1de2006c.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20140913033102.GA10967@neutralgood.org> References: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140913033102.GA10967@neutralgood.org> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/z.5653.yas5Wflxw5odTgJx"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 92.225.187.182 X-ZEDAT-Hint: A Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:19:20 -0000 --Sig_/z.5653.yas5Wflxw5odTgJx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:31:02 -0400 kpneal@pobox.com schrieb: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:09:47AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On "/" and "/tmp" as well as "/var" I have enabled soft-updates and jou= rnaling (S + > > J). I'd like to ask what the official FreeBSD recommendation would be t= o that matter. > > I have disabled for now journaling, looking whether it will help to sol= ve the problem > > or not. >=20 > You keep /tmp in an on-disk filesystem?=20 >=20 > Personally, I prefer to run with some swap space and then have /tmp be an > in-memory filesystem. The current name for this is "tmpfs". Yes, on systems with low memory and low swap. On all other systems I use tm= pfs for more than a year for now. The problem is that clients like xpdf open by default all PDFs in /tmp and = not /var/tmp (which is still mapped to disk in all my configurations) and with lots PDFs= open, the box starts swapping pretty quickly with only 4GB RAM and ZFS. Even with 8 GB RA= M its a kind of problematic, when we deal with larger temporary files taken from simulat= ions, opened by vi or other editors and stored temporarily in /tmp.=20 --Sig_/z.5653.yas5Wflxw5odTgJx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUE+HdAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8uA4H/10p1w15yVxBTWAgof1OORP+ LyD1hm0NXlquxAyG5GK8EeUR6RvE+l1jiHAsfkNlkNv/K3l4z0pywuOuKj3NuvQ8 FTbEtFbpFkJstbJLCMu9PkNWjQNt+kveK6MjLaLJ1hu2VY26r//28m+1hWbmI6Dk JYoHb5VYHLWgDZE6US2GE8xMFzWWSkNs+kPJl02iWGEY0qcJZ3kv297OelBFk+TW nSaWF1iDbUqBD7HHrLGyU3pOQkJc6Nlbsi7JlFm1wzbT1f6yym1SM64ognTUfajx ng/W3tvA6dySEQXMZbZWbLAvhs8aX4WbVigSHEENUMCJ+SwT4bXepod3S01oXuc= =4deX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/z.5653.yas5Wflxw5odTgJx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 08:21:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08E10FC9 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84186C58 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so2126837lbj.15 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=djRA2muNRJpMgaSlNCR6hPRqrYhxkMZWBz+SxOp7HnU=; b=jSsIweWfrUp2amshROVgspmGOzDH6fyCaKr0AUV7VZdyKnrdOc0+Vm7Be6gBt1xWil v2X89d06mkYSXxloiaW8kD9sqg0Crr8vB8Wx8r9GhmZnXif9pqS+qGH2TXwhSqCVWVp/ j8naIgyVUZjhAUBxVfslTmIkPfqB5VW6p0Hbl3yaPmSZOIbiTJ/wO/1pAbE8s/YqsePy zamnFSmd5eXPHOmKsTNORfzhmdpOxCmRY4N7AX8NVOWWoeNbUgKC6FT4Uv4XxroRwvdf O+5XqOtenY2msWbgzY6BdQxsGCcIP/WH3/JtnmP4lg9wMOd+rgs5aKW8NNrl/H/UnvwT jyQQ== X-Received: by 10.112.198.34 with SMTP id iz2mr1645990lbc.96.1410596476513; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lazlar.no-ip.biz (213-64-218-92-no126.business.telia.com. 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Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for > performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added > 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out > what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen > automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I > should be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks > like the device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any > issues w/ this procedure ? TIA .... > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,uid=0,gid=0,mode=1777,size=1073741824 0 0 should do it. Adjust the size parameter to your needs. It should be specified in bytes. 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dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <54141881.20600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:12:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Lists Subject: Re: Repository Search Order References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s9BGuj9GGvCL5IlCEDtbdHP7Tl6APXX0V" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:12:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --s9BGuj9GGvCL5IlCEDtbdHP7Tl6APXX0V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you open an issue on github concerning this please? https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues Bonus points if you can generate a pull request. On 13/09/2014 05:09, Dan Lists wrote: > Looks like the list scrubbed the attachment. Here is the patch. >=20 > --- libpkg/pkg_config.c.orig 2014-09-12 20:02:24.292995291 -0500 > +++ libpkg/pkg_config.c 2014-09-12 21:08:07.945030287 -0500 > @@ -592,6 +592,13 @@ > ucl_object_unref(obj); > } >=20 > +int cmp(const void *a, const void *b) > +{ > + const char **ia =3D (const char **)a; > + const char **ib =3D (const char **)b; > + return strcmp(*ia, *ib); > +} > + > static void > load_repo_files(const char *repodir) > { > @@ -600,6 +607,8 @@ > char *p; > size_t n; > char path[MAXPATHLEN]; > + char *repos[1024]; > + int r=3D0; >=20 > if ((d =3D opendir(repodir)) =3D=3D NULL) > return; > @@ -610,14 +619,26 @@ > continue; > p =3D &ent->d_name[n - 5]; > if (strcmp(p, ".conf") =3D=3D 0) { > - snprintf(path, sizeof(path), "%s%s%s", > + repos[r]=3Dmalloc(n+1); > + snprintf(repos[r], n+1, ent->d_name); I think asprintf() would be a better choice here. > + r++; > + } > + } > + closedir(d); > + > + if( r =3D=3D 0 ) > + return; > + > + qsort(repos, r, sizeof(char *), cmp); > + > + for( int i=3D0 ; i < r ; i++ ){ > + snprintf(path, sizeof(path), "%s%s%s", > repodir, > repodir[strlen(repodir) - 1] =3D=3D '/' ? "" : "/", > - ent->d_name); > + repos[i]); > load_repo_file(path); > + free(repos[i]); > } > - } > - closedir(d); > } >=20 > static void >=20 While changing the order that the repo configuration files load seems to be a useful approach, I think that it works, if at all, by chance. It will be fragile in the sense that an unrelated change elsewhere in dependency solving could easily destroy any effect from the order that config files are processed. Repository data is downloaded and processed into a number of sqlite databases each named after the tag in the repo.conf -- it strikes me that imposing some preference ordering based on the repository tag at the point that data about available packages is pulled out of the repo databases would be a more robust approach. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --s9BGuj9GGvCL5IlCEDtbdHP7Tl6APXX0V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUFBiJXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATpR4QAKaYPZjevhcMXPVzmBrx6VRk IZLj3TqmdH2T+O9+15M7hY5xVDo9SlMsG1lX3ZgYZ073yUBRNaikrzUm7h1dGVVO /7DV8uQpQkWso9nlzhQAVGVE7cSdwp0CpKPZGjMjEoNG/L3H7pHPZgrS2Z4b3qtk GXdCT3yKWXeZPOAVsIOP8jJi4iD2VJ6aZTfdqdUQ3fFTv/91dr8pRLtQ4gNk4YXh uD+/daaLAL8btuCtkHy+qzCLIBDW6mxV+nGfWEO5dsrztr2sgyw+Mbh0VDTWCi/A vnP0hEFzITZEtzXSi4Jr2t0DxzU3LgWPYb4P8hu+fpz1HwTVRY8YJCA5ajgRQR68 SfrRu59hhKktayR3F7CvJVNrGQynC5eUp+N1XQnYCH349U1nD6/dV/qd0tr4gFeN uYlSlPRtmFnpR+uH8IOrK8MmwkCa0EYvkHgKpUAene9b7Ql1f512AMiCVLOoXnFu qcHNea8yToRggqgMW6QyR0HNshAd+38rS+4w+ZB5IIRkEsgFBl4I9u+1RcfFAhOC 18rupP2wmvJvWN10JiAQrJkM4qJFmMxShd/sF9NeqQxSwfhKwTADgIZ9NO40tuqR TO5JwEzvqBkcQnsPKd0tcP51DfIeFiAbo3Tw53WCRQlVhOEWua6KU3w70KXKodNy rm6lOCjWt/gQl6+HnJOM =X/lm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s9BGuj9GGvCL5IlCEDtbdHP7Tl6APXX0V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 10:42:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8342EBB6 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 418DF9FC for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CB423CD0B; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8DAgDMO002053; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:42:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:42:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: Request for buildworld clarification Message-Id: <20140913124213.ea3c5124.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <541093BB.5030808@comcast.net> <20140910215721.7731e99a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , Dave Babb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:42:24 -0000 On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:51:03 -0400, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sep 10, 2014 11:42 PM, "Adam Vande More" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:08:59 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > > > > Good Afternoon All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am requesting a clarification on make buildworld. I am junior with > > > > FreeBSD (< 8 months)...and I am getting confused with Gentoo's > > > > definition of build world, and FreeBSD's. > > > > > > FreeBSD, unlike Linux, is separated in "the operating system" > > > (consisting of "world" and "kernel"), and "everything else", > > > which is what the ports collection contains (ports, packages > > > and the like). > > > > > > This is the right definition. To put it in a real world context, go on a > > test linux system and delete every package. Try to recover. Now do the > > same on a test FreeBSD system. After you have done this, you will > > understand the advantages of separating the OS and applications. > > I agree, but there are packages in the base system that are not managed as > packages. Even though there is general consensus that these are part of a > "minimal" install, they should be in the pkg db to facilitate clean removal > or replacement. In the past, sendmail and bind fit into this category. The transition from OS component to independent port (or package) has already happened, for example for the documentation which is not part of the base OS install anymore, but can be obtained via packages, as it is optional. However, I do not consider the system's _internal_ mailer (here: sendmail) optional, so having it in the base system is not that bad. It's easy to replace sendmail with something else. The name server, well, _that_ could easily be a port when the system doesn't run any name server (and does name lookups only through "3rd party servers"), but probably some of the related tools should be part of the OS, because people tend to use them even if they don't run a name server themselves (e. g., dig, host, nslookup and the like). FreeBSD can be turned into a minimal install by using src.conf. The OS itself is not that "cluttered" that you can easily take out essential parts and expect the whole thing to keep running. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 10:56:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10B40DB7 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1068ADA for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78ED23CBCC; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:56:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8DAus15002091; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:56:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:56:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Dave Babb Subject: Re: Request Validation of my Experience in buildworld Message-Id: <20140913125654.0ee1b126.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> References: <54135498.8080202@comcast.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:56:58 -0000 On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:16:24 -0600, Dave Babb wrote: > I think the idea of keeping the OS (buildworld) separate from ports > (portmaster -afdB) is nothing short of brilliance. I made several > mistakes in the process...as I am junior with FreeBSD...and at no time > was my OS taken down. I was able to gracefully recover and continue > until all was rebuilt. There is even another idea behind it: The "world", as well as the "kernel" are source trees where you can build everything or just a part, for example a modified version of fsck (and then install it) or a specific kernel module (and load it). Doing such things does not interfere with or create dependencies in the realm of application programs. And as you said, messing up your installed applications from ports does _nothing_ to the operating system. > After a buildworld, my system's memory footprint dropped by a good > 1/3...It sped up significantly. The I performed a "portmaster -afdB", > and rebuilt all my ports and their dependencies the long way. It's possible to add more compiling optimization in relation to what actual hardware your system runs on. Of course _today_ this is not really needed with our plentycore processors with gigs of RAM and endless hard disk, but if you have a limited hardware platform and _still_ want to have a responsive and stable OS, this is the way to go. Similarly, such optimization can be applied to ports. > Another dramatic drop in resources and another increase in performance. That is normal. Whenever I update my FreeBSD OS _on the same hardware_, the result is a _faster_ OS. This is not common in other areas of the PC world; in fact, the opposite seems to be true: you need to increase the hardware resources and hope to keep the same speed, but in most cases, you get a slower system with every update. > This experience was had across a desktop, and repeated on a ASUS laptop. > > Is this type of improvement typical? >From my point of view: Yes, it's the typical behaviour. That's why you don't need to fear a new major OS version, for example the upcoming 11.0. You don't need to buy a new computer. Instead, what you have will run faster and better with the new OS. The followint is true: Some years ago, I had a small server, Pentium 1, 150 MHz, with 128 MB RAM. It ran FreeBSD 4. Even though an update wasn't needed (because it kept working as intended), I decided to try the new (at this time) version 8 on a separate disk. Then I installed the server software that was needed and adjusted the settings from the previous install. I let the new system come up and... everything worked better! The server is still working today. I'm even planning to upgrade it to FreeBSD 10 at the end of the year, just for fun, and to see if the above theorie keeps being true. By the way, the machine in question was my _first_ FreeBSD desktop, running FreeBSD 5 at my home (before it became the FreeBSD 4 server, version 4 because the disk was simply taken from another machine that failed). That little box was able to run a WindowMaker desktop, play MP3s via xmms, also playing video with mplayer (built with optimized flags), run a FTP download, burn a CD (yes, no DVDs at that time) and build the kernel - while still being usable and responsive in the Opera web browser. Re-read the specs mentioned above! And people today complain about skipping audio when they move a window across the desktop... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 11:29:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAE5A28F for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3B27D11 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-184.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DBTCIt029133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:29:12 -0500 Message-ID: <54142BFE.2050403@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:35:26 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... References: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> <5413C6B9.3090700@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <5413C6B9.3090700@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:29:14 -0000 *Boooooyah* !!!! Exactly the guidance I need !!!! Thanks :-) .... On 09/12/14 23:23, Dave Babb wrote: > This should help you. > > I use tmpfs for /tmp, I use tmpfs for a RamDisk where I do a lot of > small compilations, and I also use tmpfs for my /usr/obj tree. I have > an SSD that I want to protect at all costs. tmpfs will use half of > your ram before going to swap. In my case, I have 32Gb of ram and no > swap. > > I just did a buildworld, followed by a portmaster -af. At the worst > case...I was using 7% of my tmpfs ram, according to df -h....7 % of > 16Gb is only 1.12 Gb. > > So I had no issue doing some heavy duty system rebuilding from > ram......via tmpfs. I did this the long way because I needed the > experience...I understand and have been told that there are easier and > shorter ways.....But I did it to learn about rebuilding world which to > date I had never done. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > Dave > > > > > > On 09/12/14 22:06, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >> .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for >> performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added >> 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out >> what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen >> automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I should >> be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks like the >> device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any issues w/ >> this procedure ? TIA .... >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 11:32:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E025F40F for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA6B7DAF for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-184.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DBWeXu030484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:32:40 -0500 Message-ID: <54142CCE.1040808@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:38:54 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... References: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> <5413FE7B.7000908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5413FE7B.7000908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:32:42 -0000 *perfect*, thanks :-) !!!! On 09/13/14 03:21, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2014-09-13 06:06, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for >> performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added >> 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out >> what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen >> automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I >> should be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks >> like the device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any >> issues w/ this procedure ? TIA .... >> >> > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,uid=0,gid=0,mode=1777,size=1073741824 0 0 > > should do it. Adjust the size parameter to your needs. It should be > specified in bytes. > > Regards, > Rolf > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUE/57AAoJEB1OKfQ0M8TgSKkP/1O2ag8QAzjFOYUnawpB19Da > G8h1hBwv/xiZUYNsoU7dfutfXZizszNDTrIYx0e1ybKHl95ZNSC4NBX1nMHi76bp > +HdzrBsmFwzZOfyYOFfpRmRyUZSmijnUgYU9qqaKIYfk90uPpiVp06OAwQqSoYGZ > Mvvje+6zWjyEXNzcfSOoIBqHPrNWLq0CLxawCQkLFevF6m9LnOhhw84O2BJUdYCO > BTh7+0OzNG4izr3KoT78RDAq5WqxM1XUIKTHkNsk74qhiKKDfAWSmMQFs+nONL/W > PdlQVtANr1yU4by+0lsuohXQUm/xwEn87bKCdb4fQ/+xBJ6o2xy0nUrTZqKpDVWS > fn3/IPtfUrXPHHfRyQNiQpJchXhHlemFjssspuPd5mWCdkUD7RZWn4joT/gsKpxi > lVL1wtYBQXibksum00QSwM0I0xsiUmHZNyjLiTnBBQejcqsOvDaXPbapxu77iq+i > uRr/G4cyPhknSdB91UWE+aaO+AIpyrLYPhm1oNePL7GP58GNq/hsQQRoeqcJJaUL > Q+UWGb05V2VB64cUXFanQfDA+QgryeRtNBO2SGnT6Dxr7u28uvO9jesh7EbdZJ+l > u860cwevLAhXCgi8tyyriygX5VahSLAt7cJDOCaUYc88B+ZEQR1zbH9dZxE620K9 > pfbbn2koiEaHvgWl8d9F > =e0fR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 13:12:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CA6ABE3 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0DBD859 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s8DCxegi019331; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:59:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54143FBC.8000409@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:59:40 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rolf Nielsen , "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... References: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> <5413FE7B.7000908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5413FE7B.7000908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:12:13 -0000 On 13/09/2014 09:21, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > On 2014-09-13 06:06, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >> .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for >> performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added >> 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out >> what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen >> automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I >> should be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks >> like the device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any >> issues w/ this procedure ? TIA .... >> >> > > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,uid=0,gid=0,mode=1777,size=1073741824 0 0 > > should do it. Adjust the size parameter to your needs. It should be > specified in bytes. As of 10.0-REL you can use the usual multiplier suffix letters in the size (and other size related fields), which is easier than writing the size in bytes. This is my fstab entry tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=01777,size=512M 0 0 A quick look at the svn repository suggests you do this with 9.3-REL as well. I've no idea whether earlier releases let you do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 13:18:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 835A1CE9 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E8D8882 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-184.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DDIl88030703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:18:47 -0500 Message-ID: <541445AD.80702@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:25:01 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: tmpfs in /etc/fstab .... References: <5413C2DA.5040105@hiwaay.net> <5413FE7B.7000908@gmail.com> <54143FBC.8000409@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54143FBC.8000409@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:18:49 -0000 Excellent, thanks, this is precisely the type of answer I needed :-). On 09/13/14 07:59, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 13/09/2014 09:21, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > >> On 2014-09-13 06:06, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> >>> .... I would like to enable use of tmpfs on my FBSD 9.3 box for >>> performance. The box has 16 GB of both RAM & swap. I added >>> 'tmpfs_load="YES"' to my /boot/loader.conf, but I can't figure out >>> what to put in /etc/fstab to allow the process to happen >>> automatically upon reboot. Specifically, what is the device I >>> should be using. The man page gives the mount command, which looks >>> like the device is called 'tmpfs'. Is that correct ? Are there any >>> issues w/ this procedure ? TIA .... >>> >>> >> >> >> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,uid=0,gid=0,mode=1777,size=1073741824 >> 0 0 >> >> should do it. Adjust the size parameter to your needs. It should be >> specified in bytes. > > As of 10.0-REL you can use the usual multiplier suffix letters in the > size (and other size related fields), which is easier than writing the > size in bytes. This is my fstab entry > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=01777,size=512M 0 0 > > A quick look at the svn repository suggests you do this with 9.3-REL > as well. I've no idea whether earlier releases let you do it. > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 16:13:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C110198B for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d2ux.org (static.140.151.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.151.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B431A54 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s2.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16EE1FDEAC for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:06:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.s2.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.4]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (mail.s2.d2ux.org [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wCSqHGkbduUM for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:06:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from horde.s2.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.9]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 417181FDE7A for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:06:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p5DDABAA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p5DDABAA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.218.186.162]) by d2ux.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:06:31 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:06:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20140913180631.Horde.jg4Z7BM4DZt1_RmsKWcLcA1@d2ux.org> From: Matthias Petermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with pkgng repository - cannot install pkgs because catalog seems to be older than repository User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:13:16 -0000 Hello, I am having a problem with installing packages with pkgng on FreeBSD FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE amd64. For example when I try to install Thunderbird: 1) Search root@ws1:/home/mpeterma # pkg search thunderbird ... thunderbird-31.0 ... 2) Install root@ws1:/home/mpeterma # pkg install thunderbird ... The latter cannot find the appropriate package. I just looked at http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/All/ and found out that Thunderbird is already on version 31.1.0 there. Is there any way to force pkgng to refresh the catalog? "pkg update" doesn't do the trick for me. Thanks in advance & kind regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann | www.petermann-it.de GnuPG: 0x5C3E6D75 | 5930 86EF 7965 2BBA 6572 C3D7 7B1D A3C3 5C3E 6D75 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 16:58:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA355759 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d2ux.org (static.140.151.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.151.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DF6E6E for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s2.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DF81FD909 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:44:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.s2.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.4]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (mail.s2.d2ux.org [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n5xFZmjfk89Q for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:44:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from horde.s2.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.9]) by mail.s2.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B447B1FD778 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:44:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p5DDABAA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p5DDABAA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.218.186.162]) by d2ux.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:44:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:44:08 +0200 Message-ID: <20140913104408.Horde.aJYUFevpLf3QRyPxl0U3nw1@d2ux.org> From: Matthias Petermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with pkgng repository - cannot install pkgs because catalog seems to be older than repository User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:58:17 -0000 Hello, I am having a problem with installing packages with pkgng on FreeBSD FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE amd64. For example when I try to install Thunderbird: 1) Search root@ws1:/home/mpeterma # pkg search thunderbird ... thunderbird-31.0 ... 2) Install root@ws1:/home/mpeterma # pkg install thunderbird ... The latter cannot find the appropriate package. I just looked at http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/All/ and found out that Thunderbird is already on version 31.1.0 there. Is there any way to force pkgng to refresh the catalog? "pkg update" doesn't do the trick for me. Thanks in advance & kind regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann | www.petermann-it.de GnuPG: 0x5C3E6D75 | 5930 86EF 7965 2BBA 6572 C3D7 7B1D A3C3 5C3E 6D75 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 17:23:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79DB0E45; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 279FB178; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i50so2154892qgf.34 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MovRpyO84FTS5JAL5pLqtGhKs1V/ZwmXlpLZ5EwsuX8=; b=m8MBoHUZSlAbQkqFE+ODh27msU329u2sdoQngSQ7nMfzIrrbFPDhMKXvN2h6RIKP8L AhJF9gUpMR3xebV7FMW5COfwfksUpJa1RmVSFkYXYfeHJF7VghjjAf1XJeHmoN2yiiAV yFbdS9BIrwdcJX9LnspMssp7uZkcrJ75LIL1JzC3y8WN4xqp9LMZ9Scg9jnfhMQtmtD0 atbDuTrPGImd1b5LFnsmGJoq0X0Dc3BLzRd7mGo0Pp7EJES8tsZ9MSwBlqI5dIw//YoT XkIfQ707KS6tAFkkwd1GIMHynYXlMUlAj2mAbWr/We+pugj/jQ2OOs3lz4RqA6FohzYl sGcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.130.7 with SMTP id q7mr23830557qas.42.1410629010066; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.10.198 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54141881.20600@FreeBSD.org> References: <54141881.20600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repository Search Order From: Dan Lists To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:23:31 -0000 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Can you open an issue on github concerning this please? > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues > I don't have an account, but I can create one. > Bonus points if you can generate a pull request. > [clip] > While changing the order that the repo configuration files load seems to > be a useful approach, I think that it works, if at all, by chance. It > will be fragile in the sense that an unrelated change elsewhere in > dependency solving could easily destroy any effect from the order that > config files are processed. > In my testing, a package will be pulled from the first repository listed by pkg -vv *if* the versions are the same. My thought was to use that to prefer local packages compiled with custom options. That would in theory remove the need for annotations and make the repository preference automatic. The problem is that a newer version of a package will be pulled from a repository later in the list of repositories, ignoring the ordering. That is not the desired behavior in cases where you need specific options. For example if you have a local package of postfix compiled with mysql support you would not want the one from the FreeBSD repository pulled in even if it is newer. With the current way of choosing which package to install, it seems like annotations are still required. That makes sorting the repositories less of an issue, though I could still see wanting to prefer local repositories when available. Did I read that pkg install/upgrade ignores version specifications and always installs the newest version? I can see times when you would want a specific version. This seems related (at least tangentially). Pkg is always choosing the newest package regardless of other factors. > Repository data is downloaded and processed into a number of sqlite > databases each named after the tag in the repo.conf -- it strikes me > that imposing some preference ordering based on the repository tag at > the point that data about available packages is pulled out of the repo > databases would be a more robust approach. > I think using the file order makes sense and is easier to control. In my tests I was using numbers at the beginning of the file names to put the repositories in the order I want them, regardless of name. > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 17:27:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C7B8AD for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADEA31A4 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s8DHR9Hn078750 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <54147E6D.7020200@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:09 -0600 From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: torrent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:09 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:27:19 -0000 I've never dealt with a torrent download but now need to get something that is only available in that form. Looking for recommendations of a simple way to go in terms of a ports client. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 17:33:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE586325 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90CC9259 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B7D13CDA7; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:32:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s8DHWvKi003270; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:32:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:32:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: torrent recommendation Message-Id: <20140913193257.cd04f37c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <54147E6D.7020200@dreamchaser.org> References: <54147E6D.7020200@dreamchaser.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:33:02 -0000 On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:09 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I've never dealt with a torrent download but now need to > get something that is > only available in that form. > > Looking for recommendations of a simple way to go in terms > of a ports client. I've been using ctorrent for that purpose. It's quick to install and easy to use: % ctorrent See "ctorrent -h" for options, but basically, the default settings are fine. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 18:26:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD2054BE for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F15A947 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8DIPrmO069052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:25:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8DIPrmO069052 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s8DIPrmO069052; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <54148C22.6070506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:25:38 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with pkgng repository - cannot install pkgs because catalog seems to be older than repository References: <20140913104408.Horde.aJYUFevpLf3QRyPxl0U3nw1@d2ux.org> In-Reply-To: <20140913104408.Horde.aJYUFevpLf3QRyPxl0U3nw1@d2ux.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PClI813naikIkO9u3SKtGApuh84MBaF7g" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:26:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PClI813naikIkO9u3SKtGApuh84MBaF7g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/09/2014 09:44, Matthias Petermann wrote: > Is there any way to force pkgng to refresh the catalog? > "pkg update" doesn't do the trick for me. pkg update -f If ever pkg doesn't do quite what you expect, this is the first thing to try. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53286643 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-120.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DKMOv6004973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: <5414A8F6.7040409@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:28:38 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" References: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:22:27 -0000 I just had a recurrence of this exact problem after a 'pkg upgrade -y' (which worked AOK since I didn't do any messing w/ ports before :-/ ). I used the portmaster command & also had the same net result (drivers reinstalled by pkg_static, rather than pkg, although they were compiled up locally) .... My question is: Is there a way to get pkg to do this, rather than ports/portmaster ? I prefer all 1 package manager as much as possible, & for me that is pkg, except where necessary to fall back on ports (flash plugin, for example). TIA .... On 08/15/14 10:30, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Thursday 14 August 2014 10:54:43 Jamie Griffin wrote: > >> This is simple to fix - run 'portmaster xf86-' and it will rebuild >> the drivers beginning with xf86- and will then match the servers >> version. >> >> For some reason when building the ports for new xorg the drivers >> built and installed are for an older version of xorg server as >> you've seen when checking pkg info. > Thanks, that fixed it. > > The odd thing is that neither pkg version nor portmaster gave any > indication that the drivers were out of date. All the packages for > xorg were installed in a single run of pkg install so I wouldd have > expected the new repository to have supplied all the relevant drivers. > > Portmaster just re-installed the drivers rather than upgrading them. > > ################################## > curlew:/root# portmaster xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xf86-video- > nv xf86-input-keyboard > > ===>>> Working on: > xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 > xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 > xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 > xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 > > [snip] > > ===>>> The following actions were performed: > Installation of devel/pkgconf (pkgconf-0.9.6_1) > Installation of devel/xorg-macros (xorg-macros-1.19.0) > Installation of x11/glproto (glproto-1.4.17) > Installation of x11/resourceproto (resourceproto-1.2.0) > Installation of x11/xf86driproto (xf86driproto-2.1.1) > Re-installation of xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 > Re-installation of xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 > Re-installation of xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 > Re-installation of xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 > ################################## > > But I still don't understand why pkg install failed to get the drivers > from the FreeBSD_new_xorg repository which does appear to have them. > > ################################## > curlew:/root# pkg rquery -r FreeBSD_new_xorg "%n %v" xf86-input-mouse\ > ? xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-nv xf86-input-keyboard > xf86-input-mouse 1.9.0_3 > xf86-video-vesa 2.3.3_3 > xf86-video-nv 2.1.20_4 > xf86-input-keyboard 1.8.0_2 > > ################################## > > In fact if I use "pkg install -r FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-vesa" I > do get it from FreeBSD_new_xorg and X works fine with it. But without > the -r option it defaults to giving me the version from the FreeBSD > repository. > > And Sod's law appears to apply here - pkg install did get the ati and > intel video drivers from FreeBSD_new_xorg. Wrong versions of these > Would not have affected me. > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 20:35:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 392B087F for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7DEC7AD for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s8DKZEiF079302; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:35:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <5414AA82.9090903@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:35:14 -0600 From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: torrent recommendation References: <54147E6D.7020200@dreamchaser.org> <20140913193257.cd04f37c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140913193257.cd04f37c.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:35:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:35:26 -0000 On 09/13/14 11:32, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:09 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> I've never dealt with a torrent download but now need to >> get something that is >> only available in that form. >> >> Looking for recommendations of a simple way to go in terms >> of a ports client. > > I've been using ctorrent for that purpose. It's quick to > install and easy to use: > > % ctorrent > > See "ctorrent -h" for options, but basically, the default > settings are fine. Thanks. Having installed that and attempted to download, I see the following when doing "ctorrent -v wikipedia-schools-3.0.1.tar.gz.torrent: META INFO Announce: udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce Alternates: 1. udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce 2. udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce 3. http://academic-p2p.appspot.com/announce 4. http://academic-p2p.carlosdelfino.eti.br/announce Created On: Fri Oct 4 08:19:41 2013 Piece length: 4194304 Comment: Officially sanctioned download of http://schools-wikipedia.org/ Created with: qBittorrent v3.0.11 FILES INFO <1> wikipedia-schools-3.0.1.tar.gz [5376284089] Total: 5127 MB Found bit field file; verifying previous state. Listening on 0.0.0.0:2706 Press 'h' or '?' for help (display/control client options). Checking completed. - 0/0/1 [0/1282/0] 0MB,0MB | 0,0K/s | 0,0K E:0,0 Connecting ... a bunch of the above line 1410637552 Check: 228 skipped 1410637552 Check: 229 skipped 1410637552 Check: 230 skipped 1410637552 Check: 231 skipped ... 1410637552 Check: 1280 skipped 1410637552 Check: 1281 skipped 1410637552 Cache: 0K/16M Hits: 0 Miss: 0 0% Pre: 0/0 ... repeats with ...553-560 1410637561 Cache: 0K/16M Hits: 0 Miss: 0 0% Pre: 0/0 1410637562 DL need: 0K UL need: 0K Cache: 16K Used: 0K What are all the check: skipped things? What are the Cache lines? ctorrent -h shows an example of ctorrent -s new_filename -e 12 -C 32 -p 6881 example.torrent What's the 6881? The -p option doesn't take an argument according to the help text, but it appears to be the port number; but there's no cmd line summary to indicate what the syntax is. How do I tell if it's actually succeeding, since the output file is pre-allocated? It says "listening on 0.0.0.0:2706" What's with the 0.0.0.0 IP, and if I have my firewall setup with 6881-6999 open with "setup keep-state" enabled, will that open up 2706 appropriately? If I try the ctorrent site recommended in ctorrent -h, I get: News Can't connect to mysql4-c as c91688ro MySQL Error: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 113 This script cannot continue, terminating. I installed ctcs and it shows nothing happening... In order to run ctcs, I had to perl -Tw /usr/local/bin/ctcs Is that normal? Or is the install deficient in setting the privileges on /usr/local/bin/ctcs? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 20:49:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA7A8F84 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CEA78B7 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-120.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DKnpQP015638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <5414AF66.80606@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:56:06 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: minor question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:49:53 -0000 .... I usually have long login sessions (weeks, maybe months), 99% of which are spent in rxvt shells, either on this machine or logged into other boxen on my LAN. I login as regular user. On 1 desktop, I open an rxvt session, su to root, then (try to) duplicate that shell using the following CLI commands: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:35pm] 325 % ( rxvt -sl 5000 -fn -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:42pm] 326 % which rxvt /usr/local/bin/rxvt [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:49pm] 327 % ( /usr/local/bin/rxvt -sl 5000 -fn -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) /usr/local/bin/rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:53:56pm] 328 % also tried: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:54:49pm] 329 % ( rxvt & ) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:55:21pm] 330 % No protocol specified rxvt: can't open display :0 [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:55:23pm] 330 % This worked AOK under FC14, apropos of little, but doesn't work under FBSD 9.3 .... Any clues as to why not ? It save me a bunch of clicking the rxvt icon, clicking the maximize button on the new window, & su-ing to root (3 steps instead of 1, grrrrr ....) .... obviously not show stopping, but irritating .... Same problem as regular user .... Any clues appreciated .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 21:14:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16EA15E7 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4520ACB for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-120.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DLEpVv025358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: <5414B542.5060005@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:21:06 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" References: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> <5414A8F6.7040409@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5414A8F6.7040409@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:14:53 -0000 Answer: yes, but w/ no 'wild cards' .... pkg feature request :-) ? On 09/13/14 15:28, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I just had a recurrence of this exact problem after a 'pkg upgrade -y' > (which worked AOK since I didn't do any messing w/ ports before :-/ ). > I used the portmaster command & also had the same net result (drivers > reinstalled by pkg_static, rather than pkg, although they were > compiled up locally) .... My question is: Is there a way to get pkg to > do this, rather than ports/portmaster ? I prefer all 1 package manager > as much as possible, & for me that is pkg, except where necessary to > fall back on ports (flash plugin, for example). TIA .... > > > On 08/15/14 10:30, Mike Clarke wrote: >> On Thursday 14 August 2014 10:54:43 Jamie Griffin wrote: >> >>> This is simple to fix - run 'portmaster xf86-' and it will rebuild >>> the drivers beginning with xf86- and will then match the servers >>> version. >>> >>> For some reason when building the ports for new xorg the drivers >>> built and installed are for an older version of xorg server as >>> you've seen when checking pkg info. >> Thanks, that fixed it. >> >> The odd thing is that neither pkg version nor portmaster gave any >> indication that the drivers were out of date. All the packages for >> xorg were installed in a single run of pkg install so I wouldd have >> expected the new repository to have supplied all the relevant drivers. >> >> Portmaster just re-installed the drivers rather than upgrading them. >> >> ################################## >> curlew:/root# portmaster xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xf86-video- >> nv xf86-input-keyboard >> >> ===>>> Working on: >> xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 >> xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 >> xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 >> xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 >> >> [snip] >> >> ===>>> The following actions were performed: >> Installation of devel/pkgconf (pkgconf-0.9.6_1) >> Installation of devel/xorg-macros (xorg-macros-1.19.0) >> Installation of x11/glproto (glproto-1.4.17) >> Installation of x11/resourceproto (resourceproto-1.2.0) >> Installation of x11/xf86driproto (xf86driproto-2.1.1) >> Re-installation of xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 >> Re-installation of xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 >> Re-installation of xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 >> Re-installation of xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 >> ################################## >> >> But I still don't understand why pkg install failed to get the drivers >> from the FreeBSD_new_xorg repository which does appear to have them. >> >> ################################## >> curlew:/root# pkg rquery -r FreeBSD_new_xorg "%n %v" xf86-input-mouse\ >> ? xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-nv xf86-input-keyboard >> xf86-input-mouse 1.9.0_3 >> xf86-video-vesa 2.3.3_3 >> xf86-video-nv 2.1.20_4 >> xf86-input-keyboard 1.8.0_2 >> >> ################################## >> >> In fact if I use "pkg install -r FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-vesa" I >> do get it from FreeBSD_new_xorg and X works fine with it. But without >> the -r option it defaults to giving me the version from the FreeBSD >> repository. >> >> And Sod's law appears to apply here - pkg install did get the ati and >> intel video drivers from FreeBSD_new_xorg. Wrong versions of these >> Would not have affected me. >> > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 21:58:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DE6197E for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B155E43 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id s8DLwIo6079515; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:58:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <5414BDFA.2040905@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:58:18 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: minor question .... References: <5414AF66.80606@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5414AF66.80606@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:58:19 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:58:22 -0000 On 09/13/14 14:56, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I usually have long login sessions (weeks, maybe months), 99% of > which are spent in rxvt shells, either on this machine or logged into > other boxen on my LAN. I login as regular user. On 1 desktop, I open > an rxvt session, su to root, then (try to) duplicate that shell using > the following CLI commands: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:35pm] 325 % ( rxvt -sl 5000 -fn > -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) > rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:42pm] 326 % which rxvt > /usr/local/bin/rxvt [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:49pm] 327 % ( > /usr/local/bin/rxvt -sl 5000 -fn > -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) > /usr/local/bin/rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:53:56pm] 328 % > > also tried: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:54:49pm] 329 % ( rxvt & ) [root@kabini1, > /etc, 3:55:21pm] 330 % No protocol specified rxvt: can't open display > :0 > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:55:23pm] 330 % > > > This worked AOK under FC14, apropos of little, but doesn't work under > FBSD 9.3 .... Any clues as to why not ? It save me a bunch of > clicking the rxvt icon, clicking the maximize button on the new > window, & su-ing to root (3 steps instead of 1, grrrrr ....) .... > obviously not show stopping, but irritating .... Same problem as > regular user .... Any clues appreciated .... As I recall, I had a similar problem once. Not sure this will do it but try "su -l" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 22:09:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A487AE62 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AC34F1A for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8DM9jeL082526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s8DM9jeL082526 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s8DM9jeL082526; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <5414C0A0.8090806@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:36 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A lot of pkg problems References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1e0O1ve8bFh3p0qxJdEaotOkO9tNP9Uj" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:09:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --x1e0O1ve8bFh3p0qxJdEaotOkO9tNP9Uj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/09/2014 09:45, Radek Krej=C4=8Da wrote: > I am trying to install my computer today (new hardware) and I cannot in= stall a lot of packages, eg. firefox, thunderbird, chromium, xfce, libreo= ffice. >=20 > All is falling on message: >=20 > Checking integrity... done (1 conflicting) > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > cannot install package firefox~www/firefox, remove it from request? [Y/= n]: >=20 > All the same... >=20 > I have deleted all packages and problem is still the same. The 'Cannot solve' errors like that need to give some more information about what is conflicting with what there as currently it's hard to work that out. What happens if you: pkg delete -af pkg bootstrap pkg install firefox (assuming you're happy to delete all your pkg and start again from scratch.) If firefox is conflicting with some of it's own dependencies then your best bet is to wait for this week's pkg building run to be published (which should be happening over the weekend if it hasn't already happened) and then try again. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Best regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann | www.petermann-it.de GnuPG: 0x5C3E6D75 | 5930 86EF 7965 2BBA 6572 C3D7 7B1D A3C3 5C3E 6D75 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 23:41:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE4A2F7D for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B95CD943 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-120.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s8DNf8H3020045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:41:09 -0500 Message-ID: <5414D78B.5030800@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:47:23 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: minor question .... References: <5414AF66.80606@hiwaay.net> <5414BDFA.2040905@dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <5414BDFA.2040905@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:41:11 -0000 Thanks, I have su aliased to 'su -', which is synonimous w/ 'su -l' .... The same thing happens w/ regular user, I just don't use that as often .... On 09/13/14 16:58, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 09/13/14 14:56, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... I usually have long login sessions (weeks, maybe months), 99% of >> which are spent in rxvt shells, either on this machine or logged into >> other boxen on my LAN. I login as regular user. On 1 desktop, I open >> an rxvt session, su to root, then (try to) duplicate that shell using >> the following CLI commands: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:35pm] 325 % ( rxvt -sl 5000 -fn >> -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) >> rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:42pm] 326 % which rxvt >> /usr/local/bin/rxvt [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:45:49pm] 327 % ( >> /usr/local/bin/rxvt -sl 5000 -fn >> -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-sans-17-*-100-100-*-100-*-* & ) >> /usr/local/bin/rxvt: No match. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:53:56pm] 328 % >> >> also tried: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:54:49pm] 329 % ( rxvt & ) [root@kabini1, >> /etc, 3:55:21pm] 330 % No protocol specified rxvt: can't open display >> :0 >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:55:23pm] 330 % >> >> >> This worked AOK under FC14, apropos of little, but doesn't work under >> FBSD 9.3 .... Any clues as to why not ? It save me a bunch of >> clicking the rxvt icon, clicking the maximize button on the new >> window, & su-ing to root (3 steps instead of 1, grrrrr ....) .... >> obviously not show stopping, but irritating .... Same problem as >> regular user .... Any clues appreciated .... > As I recall, I had a similar problem once. > Not sure this will do it but try "su -l" > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.