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Sat, 01 Oct 2016 18:59:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.65.200 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.65.200 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:59:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jov Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 09:59:29 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Weird mout output To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 01:59:31 -0000 Mount output my root partition mount info as this,which is wired: stage/vm/centos7@zrep_000007_split/dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) This should be: /dev/da0s1a on /..... more info: cat /etc/fstab /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 zfs mount stage/pgdata /pgdata stage /stage stage/vm /stage/vm stage/work_space /stage/work_spacestage/vm/smartos /stage/vm/smartosstage/vm/centos7 /stage/vm/centos7stage/vm/ubuntu16 /stage/vm/ubuntu16 stage/vm/omnios /stage/vm/omnios uname -a FreeBSD xx 11.0-RC2 FreeBSD 11.0-RC2 #0 r304729: Wed Aug 24 06:59:03 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ mount stage/vm/centos7@zrep_000007_split/dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) stage/pgdata on /pgdata (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage on /stage (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/vm on /stage/vm (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/work_space on /stage/work_space (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/vm/smartos on /stage/vm/smartos (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/vm/centos7 on /stage/vm/centos7 (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/vm/ubuntu16 on /stage/vm/ubuntu16 (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) stage/vm/omnios on /stage/vm/omnios (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) /dev/md0 on /mnt (cd9660, local, read-only) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 08:11:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DF1AC6880 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 08:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0304B11B for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 08:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u928B64r086616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 2 Oct 2016 01:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u928B6su086615; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 01:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18025; Sun, 2 Oct 16 01:09:53 PDT Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 01:09:45 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: wblock@wonkity.com, smithi@nimnet.asn.au Cc: dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img installer changes contents of USB flash drive Message-Id: <57f0c0c9.aH6Qfxjv0CNrmPcI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20160929014801.W6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:11:12 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > And then Perry Hutchinson (cc'd) is having the 'opposite' problem of > wanting to update the 10.3 i386 memstick he'd booted off with gpart > recover and gpart add for another partition, apparently successfully > according to gpart show, only to have the updates disappear on reboot? Actually, it's weirder than simply having _all_ changes to the GPT disappear on reboot: the disappearances are selective. Changes made to the GPT by 'gpart recover', and labels added to existing partitions on the memstick using 'gpart modify -l', survive reboots; but a new partition, created in the free space at the end of the memstick by 'gpart add', does not survive reboot (whether or not it is defined with a label). Setting the foot-shooting flag: # sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 does not help. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 09:13:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD3EAC69DA for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 09:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19A71DF8 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 09:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id u929DacI089909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 2 Oct 2016 02:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id u929DZBk089908; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 02:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18150; Sun, 2 Oct 16 01:45:07 PDT Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 01:44:59 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: wblock@wonkity.com, smithi@nimnet.asn.au Cc: dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img installer changes contents of USB flash drive Message-Id: <57f0c90b.o0Ro+n5Fmlq48GpP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20160929014801.W6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 09:13:41 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > > And then Perry Hutchinson (cc'd) is having the 'opposite' problem of > > wanting to update the 10.3 i386 memstick he'd booted off with gpart > > recover and gpart add for another partition, apparently successfully > > according to gpart show, only to have the updates disappear on reboot? > > Pretty sure that's an unrelated problem I've seen myself: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html > > If you change partition labels (or something) and then mount them, that > information is lost. If you reboot first, something works right. What I'm seeing does not fit that pattern. The sequence is: 1. dd the memstick image file to a 4GB flash drive. 2. Boot memstick in single-user mode, which mounts the root partition read-only and complains about a missing secondary GPT. 3. # gpart recover da0 4. Reboot, again in single-user mode, which mounts the root partition read-only. No GPT complaints this time. 5. # gpart show da0 This shows 3 partitions and 3.1 GB of free space. 6. # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs da0 7. # gpart show da0 This shows 4 partitions and no free space, as expected. 8. Reboot, again in single-user mode, which mounts the root partition read-only. No GPT complaints. 9. # gpart show da0 This shows 3 partitions and 3.1 GB of free space. WTF????? Note that nothing got mounted between steps 6 and 8. I can do 'gpart modify -l' to add labels to the 3 original partitions before or after step 6, and those labels survive the step 8 reboot although the result of 'gpart add' does not. I tried setting kern.geom.debugflags to 16 (the foot-shooting flag) before the 'gpart add' and it made no difference. And no, it is not a case of an orderly shutdown having written out an old in-memory instance of the GPT: I went so far as to yank the stick out of the USB port after step 7, and then power-cycle the machine, and the new partition *still* was gone after the reboot. 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o5sm13238084wmg.16.2016.10.02.03.00.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2016 03:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u92A0NRp016477 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:00:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u92A0Nta016476 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:00:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:00:23 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201610021000.u92A0Nta016476@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:00:27 -0000 This is an amd64 laptop. After updating to: # /bin/freebsd-version -ku 10.3-RELEASE-p7 10.3-RELEASE-p9 My xdm doesn't want to login me anymore. As soon as I enter the passwd, xdm reboots and presents me with the login prompt again. I see this in .xsession-errors: Protocol not supported by server Couldn't connect to :0 Protocol not supported by server mwm: Could not open display. Protocol not supported by server DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:path=/tmp/dbus-dEtC0CeeXH,guid=f1d367e2b8c81e06b0 b3ce7257f0d422'; export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS; DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=1555; D-Bus per-session daemon address is: My .xsession script is: xautolock -locker slock & mwm # test for an existing bus daemon, just to be safe if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then # if not found, launch a new one eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session' echo "D-Bus per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" fi Am I out of date? Is my .xsession script too old? Any other advice? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 12:54:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6562BAD980C for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 056A7661 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA358276C3; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:45:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u92CjDD1002055; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:45:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Message-Id: <20161002144513.05902af0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201610021000.u92A0Nta016476@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201610021000.u92A0Nta016476@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:54:17 -0000 On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:00:23 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > This is an amd64 laptop. > After updating to: > > # /bin/freebsd-version -ku > 10.3-RELEASE-p7 > 10.3-RELEASE-p9 > > My xdm doesn't want to login me anymore. > As soon as I enter the passwd, xdm reboots > and presents me with the login prompt again. Can you start X without using XDM (i. e., by "startx")? > I see this in .xsession-errors: > > Protocol not supported by server > Couldn't connect to :0 > Protocol not supported by server > mwm: Could not open display. > Protocol not supported by server This often points to a general X error, like if X wasn't started at all, or the programs cannot connect to an existing display because of the wrong permissions (xhost-related). I'm using xdm myself and I think I encountered this kind of error once, many years ago, but sadly I cannot remember what it actually was about. But maybe here is some "guesswork" to help. :-) > DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:path=/tmp/dbus-dEtC0CeeXH,guid=f1d367e2b8c81e06b0 > b3ce7257f0d422'; > export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS; > DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=1555; > D-Bus per-session daemon address is: No idea about the DBus part, I'm not using it, never did. > My .xsession script is: > > xautolock -locker slock & > mwm > > # test for an existing bus daemon, just to be safe > if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then > # if not found, launch a new one > eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session' > echo "D-Bus per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" > fi > > Am I out of date? No, but I think there is something wrong with the order of the programs called, and I miss the "exec" statement. In my experience, the last line should be the one calling the window manager (or the program which you want to be "in control" of the session - when it exits, the session quits). So "exec mwm" should be the last line of that file. Maybe you can try this: xautolock -locker slock & # test for an existing bus daemon, just to be safe if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then # if not found, launch a new one eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session' echo "D-Bus per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" fi exec mwm If you also want to try the "without xdm approach" I mentioned earlier, you can create a simple "startx cascade" which enables you to use both xdm (automatic session start) and "startx" (manual session start) without having to maintain two startup files: This is the ~/.xsession file you need: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc And then put the 8 lines listed above into ~/.xinitrc. Now you can temporarily disable xdm, login with your user name, and then run "startx" to check. If it works, re-enable xdm, and then login at the X display. Login should then perform normally. I'm not fully sure if it is urgently neccessary, but make both files executable (chmod +x ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id va3sm29469271wjb.18.2016.10.02.06.08.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2016 06:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u92D8fsn017218; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:08:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u92D8fF5017217; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:08:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:08:41 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201610021308.u92D8fF5017217@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20161002144513.05902af0.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 13:08:45 -0000 >From freebsd@edvax.de Sun Oct 2 13:48:31 2016 >> My xdm doesn't want to login me anymore. >> As soon as I enter the passwd, xdm reboots >> and presents me with the login prompt again. > >Can you start X without using XDM (i. e., by "startx")? Yes, startx works fine. I'd still prefer to get xdm working again. Apparently startx doesn't allow xconsole access to /dev/consile. Anyway, this is what I get: ####> cat .xsession #!/bin/tcsh source ~/.tcshrc exec ~/.xinitrc ####> cat .xinitrc xautolock -locker slock & xconsole & exec mwm ####> cat .xsession-errors Protocol not supported by server Error: Can't open display: :0 Protocol not supported by server Couldn't connect to :0 Protocol not supported by server mwm: Could not open display. ####> In fact startx works fine even without ~/.xinitrc. In that case it opens some default windows and uses twm. /var/log/xdm.log is not much help: xdm info (pid 917): Starting X server on :0 xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole xdm info (pid 4057): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 169 requests (162 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Many thanks for your help Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 13:13:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28D8AD9DF3 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 13:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824F3E02 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 13:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gaxXiZ9HUaihd9gUpjEZ3v/BcWfX0UMNGXlrrL47TVE=; b=D0nwqVtbLRcJcI0u5G6t3MfkhB VGaxaa/BoWIGIWCl8HTI4ESJRYkdLWZlwpkPqPnCvSQyZd1xhcYHacPKOdEr54y4NbO/Vwkaln5U0 sXryzbJam7E/wKXhpFTv3n6cmyJc7MryQxnvKJqHXW5pJfJlzh9dfa/S1j2pNld3QiHI=; Received: from [114.120.232.127] (port=54511 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bqgZy-002TQW-Aj; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:13:18 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:13:12 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Mario Lobo Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Centralizing /usr/src compilation Message-ID: <20161002211312.5d04c13d@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20161001104224.6f276332@Papi> References: <20161001104224.6f276332@Papi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 13:13:20 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 10:42:24 -0300 Mario Lobo wrote: > I hava a src master server (10.3.51.50) where I compile src and > kernel. No CPUTYPE or compiler flags are set. On it, I issued > make buildworld and make buildkernel that proceed with no errors. > I shared its /usr/src and /usr/obj via nfs. > > Then, on a slave server, same version and arch as the master, it > has this: > do both machines have the same CPU? As you did not specify the CPU, the CPU in the server was used as the target. If you have different CPUs but want to use one kernel for all, it might will work if you specify the type of CPU with the least capabilities you have or you compile on that machine. Erich > 2>Illegal instruction (core dumped) Illegal instruction (core dumped) Illegal instruction sounds like the target CPU does not know an instruction. Of course, this could also be caused by something else. > even bury my idea for good as non workable? It should work when you set the CPU type. I also run a kernel compiled for an older Intel CPU on a newer Intel CPU without problems. I never tried it the other way around. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 14:10:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED0ADCCDF for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05A1284E for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 191103CDDB; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u92EANKG002467; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:10:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:10:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Message-Id: <20161002161023.8fe95f93.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201610021308.u92D8fF5017217@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20161002144513.05902af0.freebsd@edvax.de> <201610021308.u92D8fF5017217@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 14:10:33 -0000 On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:08:41 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > From freebsd@edvax.de Sun Oct 2 13:48:31 2016 > >> My xdm doesn't want to login me anymore. > >> As soon as I enter the passwd, xdm reboots > >> and presents me with the login prompt again. > > > >Can you start X without using XDM (i. e., by "startx")? > > Yes, startx works fine. Good, so a general X problem is out of the way. > I'd still prefer to get xdm working again. I can understand this intention, it's very convenient. :-) > Apparently startx doesn't allow xconsole access to /dev/consile. That is correct. When xdm starts a user session, it executes the GiveConsole script which grants the access to the console device, and TakeConsole after the session terminates to restore the defaults (root access only). > Anyway, this is what I get: > > ####> cat .xsession > #!/bin/tcsh > source ~/.tcshrc > exec ~/.xinitrc > ####> cat .xinitrc > xautolock -locker slock & > xconsole & > exec mwm Yes: This should let the session live as long as mwm lives. You can now easily verify this with the "non-xdm approach" by using "startx" - you should get your regular desktop, and when you exit mwm, the session terminates, and X shuts down. This is what you should definitely verify, to make sure the "session flow" works as expected. > ####> cat .xsession-errors > Protocol not supported by server > Error: Can't open display: :0 > Protocol not supported by server > Couldn't connect to :0 > Protocol not supported by server > mwm: Could not open display. At the time mwm is started, there is no X display available or you don't have permission to access it (which I see no reason for). > In fact startx works fine even without > ~/.xinitrc. In that case it opens some > default windows and uses twm. Correct. The startx / xinit program defaults to a configuration buried deep inside /usr/local to perform this default action. If a ~/.xinitrc is present for the current user, it will be executed instead. > /var/log/xdm.log is not much help: > > xdm info (pid 917): Starting X server on :0 > xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 > xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole > xdm info (pid 4057): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession > xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole > XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" > after 169 requests (162 known processed) with 0 events remaining. This error also looks familiar to me. Do you have any suspicious entries in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Checking for the error message in the questions list archive just brought up this entry: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-March/228663.html No solution there, just a reference to the X11 list... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n28sm14345398wmi.2.2016.10.02.08.00.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u92F0sQ2017619; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:00:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u92F0sZW017618; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:00:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:00:54 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201610021500.u92F0sZW017618@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20161002161023.8fe95f93.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 15:00:57 -0000 >From freebsd@edvax.de Sun Oct 2 15:53:23 2016 > >> Anyway, this is what I get: >> >> ####> cat .xsession >> #!/bin/tcsh >> source ~/.tcshrc >> exec ~/.xinitrc >> ####> cat .xinitrc >> xautolock -locker slock & >> xconsole & >> exec mwm > >Yes: This should let the session live as long as mwm lives. >You can now easily verify this with the "non-xdm approach" >by using "startx" - you should get your regular desktop, and >when you exit mwm, the session terminates, and X shuts down. > >This is what you should definitely verify, to make sure the >"session flow" works as expected. Yes, this works exactly as you describe. >> xdm info (pid 917): Starting X server on :0 >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole >> xdm info (pid 4057): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole >> XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" >> after 169 requests (162 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > >This error also looks familiar to me. Do you have any suspicious >entries in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? No, all seems fine: http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/Xorg.0.log >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-March/228663.html > >No solution there, just a reference to the X11 list... Yes, not much help. Perhaps my nvidia driver (and the card) are becoming too old: nvidia-driver-340-340.93 x11/nvidia-driver-340 Thanks for all your help! Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 15:11:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C267FAEFFE7 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 15:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B430EDC for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 15:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 234653CE56; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:11:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u92FB8ZB002962; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:11:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:11:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bris.ac.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Message-Id: <20161002171108.38e0ae22.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201610021500.u92F0sZW017618@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20161002161023.8fe95f93.freebsd@edvax.de> <201610021500.u92F0sZW017618@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 15:11:13 -0000 On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:00:54 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > From freebsd@edvax.de Sun Oct 2 15:53:23 2016 > > > >> Anyway, this is what I get: > >> > >> ####> cat .xsession > >> #!/bin/tcsh > >> source ~/.tcshrc > >> exec ~/.xinitrc > >> ####> cat .xinitrc > >> xautolock -locker slock & > >> xconsole & > >> exec mwm > > > >Yes: This should let the session live as long as mwm lives. > >You can now easily verify this with the "non-xdm approach" > >by using "startx" - you should get your regular desktop, and > >when you exit mwm, the session terminates, and X shuts down. > > > >This is what you should definitely verify, to make sure the > >"session flow" works as expected. > > Yes, this works exactly as you describe. So no problem related to mwm or the programs you're using. > >> xdm info (pid 917): Starting X server on :0 > >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 > >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole > >> xdm info (pid 4057): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession > >> xdm info (pid 4040): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole > >> XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" > >> after 169 requests (162 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > > >This error also looks familiar to me. Do you have any suspicious > >entries in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? > > No, all seems fine: > http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/Xorg.0.log A few warnings, but nothing related to the strange xdm behaviour. Everything else looks fully correct. > Perhaps my nvidia driver (and the card) are becoming too old: > > nvidia-driver-340-340.93 x11/nvidia-driver-340 Interesting aspect... bug again, I cannot imagine why there are problems with xdm, but "startx" works perfectly. You probably don't have a problem related to nvidia-driver... Have you tried the "obvious" recompile & reinstall dance? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 18:13:13 -0000 By clone, you mean create a new disk with identical content to the cloned disk? Including the boot blocks of the cloned disk? If so, dump and restore will only perform like a full backup. The target (copy-to) disk will not be bootable. If you want it bootable, then there is a simlpe procedure 1. Obtain a new disk with sufficient capacity as close as possible to size of the source disk. Not less than, though!! 2. dd if= of=/dev/..... i.e. the new disk> bs=128M conv=notrunc conv=fdatasync When finished, without error, the new disk will be a bootable mirror of the original. HTH On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Warren Block wrote: > > > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Robert Huff wrote: > > > >> On 9/28/2016 10:43 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> > >>> I have a beautiful running server (dozens of jails and intricate > >>> configuration) on a single small and aging hard drive. I bought 2 new > hard > >>> drives and want to migrate to a ZFS mirror. > >>> > >>> Pardon my ignorance but would there be a way to just copy my system > from > >>> the old drive to the new ZFS array? > >>> > >>> I was thinking of something like this: 1) install the two new drives > in the > >>> server and boot with old drive via an USB enclosure. 2) Create a > booteable > >>> ZFS array and somehow copy an identical image of my current system > onto the > >>> array. > >>> > >>> Am I dreaming or are there actual ways of doing this? I really don't > want > >>> to re-install and configure everything. Just want to move an identical > copy > >>> of my system to the new hard drives on a ZFS mirror. > >> > >> > >> The canonical - and correct - method involves dump piped to > restore; there may be an example in the Handbook. > > > > > > I have not tried it, but I think restore(8) should work when writing to > a ZFS system. > > > > So dump(8) on the original UFS piped to restore(8) on ZFS, presumably in > a dataset or multiple datasets. > > > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html > > > > After it is on ZFS, dump(8) cannot be used, but zfs send and zfs recv > are similar. Or rsync, or tar, or clonehd, or other things. The options > with them are the trick. It takes a lot to get rsync to make a serious > copy of a non-trivial filesystem with links and flags. > > Thanks for your suggestions! > I will look into dump and restore. > > Thanks again! > > Alejandro Imass > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 19:05:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C97AF167A for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@email1.live.com.eg) Received: from server2.live.com.eg (server2.live.com.eg [37.228.134.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5805C112 for ; 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Sun, 2 Oct 2016 19:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: from server949-han.de-nserver.de (server949-han.de-nserver.de [77.75.250.185]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6DFDB34 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 19:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantin@schukraft.org) Received: (qmail 30527 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2016 21:42:44 +0200 X-Fcrdns: Yes Received: from schukraft.it (HELO midgard.local.schukraft.it) (80.147.5.44) (smtp-auth username konstantin@schukraft.org, mechanism plain) by server949-han.de-nserver.de (qpsmtpd/0.92) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPSA; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 21:42:44 +0200 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:42:40 +0200 From: Konstantin Schukraft To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Message-ID: <20161002194024.lios7rsb3zmdhbbm@midgard.local.schukraft.it> References: <201610021000.u92A0Nta016476@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jh2ry5ro7jck2d26" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201610021000.u92A0Nta016476@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20160916 (1.7.0) X-User-Auth: Auth by konstantin@schukraft.org through 80.147.5.44 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:42:59 -0000 --jh2ry5ro7jck2d26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Hi, >After updating to: > ># /bin/freebsd-version -ku >10.3-RELEASE-p7 >10.3-RELEASE-p9 > >My xdm doesn't want to login me anymore. >As soon as I enter the passwd, xdm reboots >and presents me with the login prompt again. > >I see this in .xsession-errors: > >Protocol not supported by server >Couldn't connect to :0 >Protocol not supported by server >mwm: Could not open display. >Protocol not supported by server >DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:path=/tmp/dbus-dEtC0CeeXH,guid=f1d367e2b8c81e06b0 >b3ce7257f0d422'; >export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS; >DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=1555; >D-Bus per-session daemon address is: I see the same phenomenon here, so you're not alone. I even have troubles starting a session with startx, I have to start an X server on a separate console before startx would work. I'm running current nvidia-driver-367.44, so it's not your driver either. Since I'd like to do a fresh reinstall once 11.0 is finalised and I'm able to work atm I didn't bother looking into it so far, but I wanted to let you know you're not alone. All the best, Konstantin --jh2ry5ro7jck2d26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJX8WMwAAoJEH3raMNeVmMFDRQP/0G3q0GYUsJI//Xkz5441JPR 6G7uwR2O/TFpoGN4CgHSvmmMeuMj0ymU0gmxmG8R3OgY1NpF4fA+jPwU9g7H3tlx 0h0KTkqExsZuFIrWkZjETdoYdx034JdeGfe8N7AUvuuGtc1YNMmpKgI0GdvnmKa4 pCllxzVV4QY74nxmUcz3E+zx5dJtxSdxD5OkZ/8IZ7ZMGn9OOwE+ahx9AFCrSKNo oytKuAyORZSMwOwQnFHOl0ECcO5TBTO+5R/2ldQYSsMyF9eMFywnMcasUURSjSXx O3+5YQc+ZKZ5M4A7HvRcYLFg7qeBapgjXjTA2lRH1wUHImsUQCFvOi1+lJmSeeMj 7OSY2PKRzAibHBu+yA7yH2NRyciY9EdioMC5a5GEhLQfJJ/0VPqNcBAaumSq8d8K yb0v1jD2NaIRRfrdIS0gEcUNhmRD8xQ+aTYAMMqxGhMLFQuFF0Jyz/zk8YkmNp4z u2Kt2hGjBmPVn2k3PNcPabGXBAFbCc9Jhz2Foj9fuc58IJdelXHjroEGoaiSDkuR CSGtqEwHutjEjXMCLEr76yg82gNFNOrqaq7Wanii6zyKo8Y4tEGnfp9Jk6MSzOP9 BI7QFCPgnavn46v5AtBCiQbeUpT3Fy70LW0tMTLCKIuPPudU57d9rQgt+rXQ/fr1 Qitcjdgk+lq7E+eW/l+d =5vul -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jh2ry5ro7jck2d26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 20:20:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6A4AF2E72 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 873BE20D for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.224.170]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSuYT-1bR78R3pZt-00RpUD for ; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 22:20:43 +0200 Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 22:20:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OwU2H3jMI/dRmCBqtGWJgqe0fEqag7tlqODvSQ4DVWVxL3mIRtV 9/2+L5te5yht5aivRJeNXy58Kha0osPHbkNMBsOQ4otqcb0G04yx/ZEeAyMWq/TO+AZuxnw DWHdb3UQJ/H0qEDK5VeOtIrMmWDKmRdw0aBGfCoQhg3heMC2cYUtivFcqWiBNFY5/DZd+/T JwlM4CDintriIGM4zsmhw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Rn1lIX2oNts=:mG71SaQY7A7KyA1Ubgsf8o 4v7hd7KnkitmUFzw29aKe0gqE2ms5eY4VqbB0svBu0W9se+lIvUru+GGfkQy+yWgU7iVsu1Oc qKNqmxrfVepR437eG2Hlr2P9e2dDjdFi7RWulU/2jTLBg3AJSaWghZl6cAtQbJ3cClNkabETy BKE4RFEfLoMapIzZxap2k6tX3ckEnH8Sz1YDh4PT5gFsYvbgwMvOZrH44AS8Nz3UyPQtb86tB SbgAfVQDmwe3aJ1jWbNiaLcb42c1sYB6VAlQ3IM7ktJl4Twyg+vKnQ+4uGyHuVjKOhBQDja3Y /w+zEWZ5SiVu0h8sG8pr9urXYs16XHiB2+MEOpm1+hmFkpc8CtheG6MNlRfqFo875b1aqDkbf 7l4kpPZIaeinyyuXiRLR7cYPINZKN3Zu4wMk9BmFpw3Xpy8LjRu46BB0g2cUlETkHAqNBw8/w v4NR+FloBWXoKRGmh8VxXX0do1fRg/IJQ5Y/xnGGZmZx0N8MVUhkcIOsOuxaQZGq0htqWi+zs UOQG68QdVWKXVRxvuzNudLkiqtwJKSA7X/x1jqUYnSiWYEwedk7Za73D2nVsb6TxQSicsoVr9 h52FRJXwwbTI2axK1g9R48azMXSbnVIO2C6Duq8r6+A1kOH8cM2MQwIoMZNGvbcFEGY+eC8cY XREb/85t1AkswllAUx44sK+3RvksJzvNBibYOqzU8vok+U42q4ruFYGk0+wF5GJbns1EOMF6z +RtTOKsij9BlcXOH2Qmfu/QBNTYu2Z6qV0qy04uoZYe71mNKs4IJUuoP8vkOMVpXw3N/vgM5+ FQy+smS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 20:20:52 -0000 At this point there are some similar products like norton ghost. One is http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/products.html#g4u The problem is always, that is can't boot, when it come from a hdd to a ssd. http://www.cyberciti.biz/datacenter/5-awesome-open-source-cloning-software/ and looking at goole for "clone disk" greetings, there are more things, that can but not must help you. ;( On 10/02/16 20:12, JD wrote: > By clone, you mean create a new disk with identical > content to the cloned disk? Including the boot blocks > of the cloned disk? > If so, dump and restore will only perform like a full backup. > The target (copy-to) disk will not be bootable. > If you want it bootable, then there is a simlpe procedure > 1. Obtain a new disk with sufficient capacity as close as possible > to size of the source disk. Not less than, though!! > 2. dd if= of=/dev/..... i.e. the new disk> > bs=128M conv=notrunc conv=fdatasync > > When finished, without error, > the new disk will be a bootable mirror of the original. > > HTH > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Alejandro Imass > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Warren Block wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Robert Huff wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/28/2016 10:43 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a beautiful running server (dozens of jails and intricate >>>>> configuration) on a single small and aging hard drive. I bought 2 new >> hard >>>>> drives and want to migrate to a ZFS mirror. >>>>> >>>>> Pardon my ignorance but would there be a way to just copy my system >> from >>>>> the old drive to the new ZFS array? >>>>> >>>>> I was thinking of something like this: 1) install the two new drives >> in the >>>>> server and boot with old drive via an USB enclosure. 2) Create a >> booteable >>>>> ZFS array and somehow copy an identical image of my current system >> onto the >>>>> array. >>>>> >>>>> Am I dreaming or are there actual ways of doing this? I really don't >> want >>>>> to re-install and configure everything. Just want to move an identical >> copy >>>>> of my system to the new hard drives on a ZFS mirror. >>>> >>>> >>>> The canonical - and correct - method involves dump piped to >> restore; there may be an example in the Handbook. >>> >>> >>> I have not tried it, but I think restore(8) should work when writing to >> a ZFS system. >>> >>> So dump(8) on the original UFS piped to restore(8) on ZFS, presumably in >> a dataset or multiple datasets. >>> >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html >>> >>> After it is on ZFS, dump(8) cannot be used, but zfs send and zfs recv >> are similar. Or rsync, or tar, or clonehd, or other things. The options >> with them are the trick. It takes a lot to get rsync to make a serious >> copy of a non-trivial filesystem with links and flags. >> >> Thanks for your suggestions! >> I will look into dump and restore. >> >> Thanks again! >> >> Alejandro Imass >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 2 20:40:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412E1AF1604 for ; Sun, 2 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Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:20:06 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Centralizing /usr/src compilation On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:13:12 +0800 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 10:42:24 -0300 > Mario Lobo wrote: > > > I hava a src master server (10.3.51.50) where I compile src and > > kernel. No CPUTYPE or compiler flags are set. On it, I issued > > make buildworld and make buildkernel that proceed with no errors. > > I shared its /usr/src and /usr/obj via nfs. > > > > Then, on a slave server, same version and arch as the master, it > > has this: > > > do both machines have the same CPU? As you did not specify the CPU, > the CPU in the server was used as the target. If you have different > CPUs but want to use one kernel for all, it might will work if you > specify the type of CPU with the least capabilities you have or you > compile on that machine. > > Erich > > > 2>Illegal instruction (core dumped) Illegal instruction (core > > 2>dumped) > > Illegal instruction sounds like the target CPU does not know an > instruction. Of course, this could also be caused by something else. > > > even bury my idea for good as non workable? > > It should work when you set the CPU type. > > I also run a kernel compiled for an older Intel CPU on a newer Intel > CPU without problems. I never tried it the other way around. > > Erich Hi Erich. Thanks for replying! Actually, the "slave" server is a guest VM hosted on the "master" server. Like I said, the slave has the same FBSD version and arch (AMD64) as the "master". (I know ... the jail argument, but I still didn't master it enough to fell confident for production). I did not specify any CPUTYPE because I assumed that if I didn't, it would compile for a GENERIC CPU, although I thought that through VT-x/AMD-V, the guests sees the same CPU as the host. Which CPUTYPE should I set? I ask because there are other physical machines on the LAN with slightly different CPUs in which I want this to work also. Thanks! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 01:41:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768D5AD95ED for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 01:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cdptpa-oedge", Issuer "cdptpa-oedge" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40CEBB8A for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 01:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [76.181.114.47] ([76.181.114.47:60500] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 8F/01-14260-DA3B1F75; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 01:26:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.40] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1bqs14-0002Et-Pu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2016 21:26:02 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Baho Utot Subject: Git not building Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:26:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 01:41:39 -0000 Update to latest ports revision ( svnlite ) building deve/git has this error: install -d -m 755 /usr/ports/devel/git/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/git-core install -m 755 git-subtree /usr/ports/devel/git/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/git-core asciidoc -b docbook -d manpage -f ../../Documentation/asciidoc.conf \ -agit_version=2.9.2 git-subtree.txt xmlto -m ../../Documentation/manpage-normal.xsl man git-subtree.xml install -d -m 755 /usr/ports/devel/git/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1 install -m 644 git-subtree.1 /usr/ports/devel/git/work/stage/usr/local/man/man1 install: git-subtree.1: No such file or directory gmake[3]: *** [Makefile:58: install-man] Error 71 gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/ports/devel/git/work/git-2.9.2/contrib/subtree' git-subtree.1 is missing: find . -name git-subtree.1 <- displays nothing ie file not found This a flea? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 02:40:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2296AC67B9 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 02:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACF1673 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 02:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u932e589084177 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:40:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u932e514084174; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:40:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:40:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: JD cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 02 Oct 2016 20:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 02:40:14 -0000 On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, JD wrote: > By clone, you mean create a new disk with identical > content to the cloned disk? Including the boot blocks > of the cloned disk? > If so, dump and restore will only perform like a full backup. > The target (copy-to) disk will not be bootable. > If you want it bootable, then there is a simlpe procedure > 1. Obtain a new disk with sufficient capacity as close as possible >     to size of the source disk. Not less than, though!! > 2. dd if= of=/dev/..... i.e. the new disk> bs=128M conv=notrunc conv=fdatasync > > When finished, without error, > the new disk will be a bootable mirror of the original. There can be problems with that. GPT secondary partitions will be in the wrong place, and this is really bad on SSDs. It also takes longer than necessary because it copies every block, many of which are unused and don't need to be copied. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 06:25:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39C8AC61EF for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 06:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4B7AE5E for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 06:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a+9iIF4gUmP+YOfdF2zwyuAPFnC0+sCHsoaaQgw8iw0=; b=Zlw5sDxMkkP2Po+KEDC6zzhT7g X+O86Y2F8wN9WLynRiUkYZSi9/k4DZF0YBPmPQUzmLtrkSQREyNHfHQuneKXAsVG81/8qREPgiMgW m5gKmBY0SrCCbxsLJhDvbph8yTZH3b4ybmwPFBPFgZigSDRnLGk0PvZoxpaDyhiMWz/8=; Received: from [114.120.233.15] (port=56832 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bqwgm-000dZk-IX; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 00:25:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:25:16 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Mario Lobo Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Centralizing /usr/src compilation Message-ID: <20161003142516.7bc18920@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20161002202006.1ff18a15@Papi> References: <20161001104224.6f276332@Papi> <20161002211312.5d04c13d@X220.alogt.com> <20161002202006.1ff18a15@Papi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 06:25:31 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:20:06 -0300 Mario Lobo wrote: > On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 21:13:12 +0800 > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 10:42:24 -0300 > > Mario Lobo wrote: > > > > > I hava a src master server (10.3.51.50) where I compile src and > > > kernel. No CPUTYPE or compiler flags are set. On it, I issued > > > make buildworld and make buildkernel that proceed with no errors. > > > I shared its /usr/src and /usr/obj via nfs. > > > > > > Then, on a slave server, same version and arch as the master, it > > > has this: > > > > > do both machines have the same CPU? As you did not specify the CPU, > > the CPU in the server was used as the target. If you have different > > CPUs but want to use one kernel for all, it might will work if you > > specify the type of CPU with the least capabilities you have or you > > compile on that machine. > > > > Erich > > > > > 2>Illegal instruction (core dumped) Illegal instruction (core > > > 2>dumped) > > > > Illegal instruction sounds like the target CPU does not know an > > instruction. Of course, this could also be caused by something else. > > > > > even bury my idea for good as non workable? > > > > It should work when you set the CPU type. > > > > I also run a kernel compiled for an older Intel CPU on a newer Intel > > CPU without problems. I never tried it the other way around. > > > > Erich > > Hi Erich. Thanks for replying! > > Actually, the "slave" server is a guest VM hosted on the "master" > server. this is then completely different. I do not know how virtualisation works on FreeBSD and what a guest sees inside the virtual machine. Have a very simple try. Compile FreeBSD inside the virtual machine and check if you can distribute the binaries from one virtual machine to another one. I would use jails except in very strange situations when host and guest are both running FreeBSD. > > Like I said, the slave has the same FBSD version and arch (AMD64) as > the "master". (I know ... the jail argument, but I still didn't > master it enough to fell confident for production). > > I did not specify any CPUTYPE because I assumed that if I didn't, it > would compile for a GENERIC CPU, although I thought that through > VT-x/AMD-V, the guests sees the same CPU as the host. I do not know much about GENERIC as I hardly use it. > > Which CPUTYPE should I set? I ask because there are other physical > machines on the LAN with slightly different CPUs in which I want this > to work also. Just set none as the compiler uses then the type of CPU it is running on. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 12:53:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC0CAF3E1D for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 12:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-1.ln-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com [105.28.96.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3029B61F for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 12:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=Mark-Tinkas-MacBook.local) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id OEH2FQ-0000KP-RM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 14:52:38 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Tinka Subject: UDP Traceroute on FreeBSD Message-ID: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:52:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/49.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:53:11 -0000 Hi all. Can anyone tell me whether FreeBSD is able to respond to traceroute packets transported over UDP? Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 13:17:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEA4AC6455 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC10F5F4 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18B60278A7; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:16:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u93DGrsg002179; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:16:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:16:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mark Tinka Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDP Traceroute on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20161003151653.bc9887c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> References: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:17:04 -0000 On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:52:38 +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether FreeBSD is able to respond to traceroute > packets transported over UDP? That could be possible. You can verify it by instructing the traceroute program to issue UDP packets, but it will listen for an ICMP answer, if I remember that mechanism correctly. Then inspect the packets with Wireshark. See "man traceroute" for details. Consider asking the question on the freebsd-hackers@ or freebsd-net@ mailing lists. The answer to your question is located somewhere in the system's network stack. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 15:31:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0350AF36FC for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 469D880B for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u93FVmmm068097; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 02:31:48 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 02:31:48 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block cc: David Christensen , Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img installer changes contents of USB flash drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20161004010853.E6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160929014801.W6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 15:31:57 -0000 On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 11:39:35 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > A secondary copy of the partition table is saved at the end of a > > > GPT-partitioned drive. This is a problem for GPT when a binary image is > > > written to a device that is not exactly the same size as the image. That > > > is pretty much always the case with installer images. > > > > Indeed. MBR/BSD images don't have this problem because all metadata is > > at the beginning of and within the image in the case of UFS superblocks. > > So an image can be copied to a device like /dev/da0, in the case of the > > hitherto dedicated drive /dev/da0a, or as easily to a slice like da0s1 > > where it becomes da0s1a, as long as there's enough room on the memstick. > > > > A GPT image seems more of a whole-disk image rather than (what equally > > can serve as) a single partition image. It must have a primary GPT (all > > 34 sectors?) but do you know if these images already contain the full 34 > > sector secondary GPT? i.e, I don't see why only the last sector of the > > copied image file was changed, with no update to any of the prior 33? > > Most of those 34 blocks (not a fixed size, by the way) contain partition > information. But there are global flags and things like the PMBR which could > change. Without knowing exactly what that byte does, it's a guess. Ok. I've been using the Wikipedia page as reference, as I tend to find diagrams more useful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table I find it slightly weird that the secondary GPT (there) uses LBA-33 for the first four partitions; if it was my design (cough) I'd have reversed that also, and used LBA-2 for the first four, etc. But then, I've never been enamoured of this (problematic) end-of-physical-disk positioning. > Note that we don't know when that change is happening. It could be the > machine checking the secondary GPT on the memory stick that is helpfully and > silently "fixing" something when it recognizes the stick, before it is read. As David mentioned, doing so silently would be less than helpful (POLA!) > It could be malicious or buggy firmware in any of several places, including > the UEFI or BIOS or the memory stick micontroller itself. The point is that > we don't know that it is the FreeBSD installer making that change. Right, so I guess we need more people to test this on their machines, but I'm not in a position to do so lately .. maybe David's PR will help. And Perry's issue is also outstanding, and rather inexplicable so far. > I remember a few years back that someone helped me understand what was going > on, but forget the details (and, unfortunately, who it was). Many of us could relate to that :) "I thought I met a man .. who said he knew a man .. who knew what was going on .." David Crosby - IIRC! > > Personally I'm wanting to get to a memstick with 2 or 3 bootable slices > > for installers (amd64 and i386) - as least the amd64 one from dvd1 with > > packages - plus a mountable r/w data partition. Using only native tools > > currently implies using boot0, thus MBR/BSD schema. Converting a new > > GPT-scheme memstick image to ONE slice on my new 16GB memstick is what I > > need to figure out, possibly by means of using a tar pipeline similar to > > dvd1_to_memstick.sh. I hope to get time to look at 11.0 make release > > memstick scripts, but I'd appreciate any clues / ideas meanwhile .. > > I'd think you could just dd(1) the contents of the single installer disk > partition into a big-enough MBR partition. Repeat for each image, then use > boot0cfg. Sure, for old-style raw BSD images, but that won't work for images with: 1) PMBR, 2) primary GPT, 3) efifat partition, 4) gptboot partition then 5) the UFS partition - which is all we want to copy to a bootable BSD slice - then 6) 1M(??) swap. We need to use /boot/boot bootblocks for each slice; still, it may be easy to locate and dd just that partition out of the mdconfig'd image - or mount it and copy; some tests needed. > It really is a shame we still require separate installers for amd64 and i386, > a single installer can install either. It's got a lot simpler on 11 src/release, using mkimg(1) rather than scripting gpart steps as before, but both memstick and iso still differ between i385 and amd64. Perhaps the EFI issues are the main difference? root@x200:/usr/head/src/release # diff -u i386/make-memstick.sh amd64/make-memstick.sh --- i386/make-memstick.sh 2016-05-22 06:27:55.712694000 +1000 +++ amd64/make-memstick.sh 2016-05-22 06:27:55.713721000 +1000 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ # # Usage: make-memstick.sh # -# $FreeBSD: head/release/i386/make-memstick.sh 293188 2016-01-05 03:20:45Z gjb $ +# $FreeBSD: head/release/amd64/make-memstick.sh 293188 2016-01-05 03:20:45Z gjb $ [.. clipped and reformatted for clarity on the list ..] -mkimg -s gpt -b ${1}/boot/pmbr \ -p freebsd-boot:=${1}/boot/gptboot -p freebsd-ufs:=${2}.part \ -p freebsd-swap::1M -o ${2} +mkimg -s gpt -b ${1}/boot/pmbr -p efi:=${1}/boot/boot1.efifat \ -p freebsd-boot:=${1}/boot/gptboot -p freebsd-ufs:=${2}.part \ -p freebsd-swap::1M -o ${2} cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 15:35:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3689AF37F1 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x235.google.com (mail-yb0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66CDC972 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 191so11937776ybv.3 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=q3oI63nEr8JBeuqBonb1JBjyb35ZIsByDJ6aIpZP9yw=; b=DBgzzl6cE0VyyQ2wcSkwoCIJJoK1BuSavTyMAhAc6wZgB6aMvaU0S91VZLOi1n0rJ+ LVKVvdM3+pGhMr+vU6BJAOWtAxxGDylTFmf4rDgMz+54yigVfZm57JPRGlcKu/GXXcHF U5bDlJdAVdt0ERdvTXZxPUwuSJaJghz8QQA/kc1jyozU4IY9n+yMCCKD8ECb2I1iZgLg 6OiKNEqEn3kIPVT8Ptgqr+Jb+UDoAS/OitnnAcufW/O3tcz4XUJiZKx6QZ/JBIBFSA9V ZnxTR/0fkWTmkIgvbICdFESK/VCCYySoH6t3u5SGfGKBa9j0DEp+dy0A8ZvGRHuji73c SnVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=q3oI63nEr8JBeuqBonb1JBjyb35ZIsByDJ6aIpZP9yw=; b=UfxYM/ZmqgGNujoITvesXF6YVJtB3xeyCMDowloU9K7osP437VCyElgYa4IhxJxQJa 1PRIrdxI7IpjvIKp9xS0K9+WNTQ2F5DZEFz53OPDR6K30OXJIQSLYwhiUs/qY/ZMigc2 3x6UsaT/l8HoEi32B+LjoUOYIktRxilAnC4Yv6Ge2DRYLo1tdlrDm6YSO9jL7V0/8kJ8 MrAs7Rbo1GQqN9QALjcVCkfjKs9IGMYLek0RHNHenDuxcr9f/OB4V5pALyLUe7qvdhz2 RnsclC1sPPn1tZvBZ4FX90D4aERkztc5ZGdzK99upAb/uFdPmTsAe/p1SxegD2uqoPRw e95w== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmYFCqZj2b5sGuCgWkNXZwkiNn5EqvJ+AopVoW41QNZFZdLdUxvzSsLzn9x9G0B/e1GgJLELt7qOuXOiQ+I X-Received: by 10.37.37.3 with SMTP id l3mr16216025ybl.74.1475508913620; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.172.7 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> References: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 08:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: UDP Traceroute on FreeBSD To: Mark Tinka Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 15:35:14 -0000 On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > Can anyone tell me whether FreeBSD is able to respond to traceroute > packets transported over UDP? > Absolutely, yes - unless firewall rules drop stray UDP packets inbound, or the kernel parameter net.inet.udp.blackhole is set to 1. Also note that traceroute only yields the expected behavior (an ICMP PORT_UNREACHABLE which terminates the trace) if nothing is listening on the selected port on the IP address you're tracerouting to. --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent man requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 16:49:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EBFAF4F9D for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 787C4206 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u93Gn6QK000550 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u93Gn6cr000547; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "lokadamus@gmx.de" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:49:08 -0000 On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, lokadamus@gmx.de wrote: > At this point there are some similar products like norton ghost. One is > http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/products.html#g4u These are mostly going to do the same thing as dd(1) when they don't understand the filesystem. Clonezilla does understand UFS, and I have used it once or twice to clone a FreeBSD disk. I still prefer dump/restore. In the old MBR days, there was no serious problem with partition tables, because there was only one partition table at the start of the disk. GPT puts one at the start of the disk and the end of the disk, so binary copying a smaller disk to a larger one puts the secondary partition table somewhere before the end of the larger disk. It's not really possible to copy a larger disk to a smaller one with dd(1), so that problem does not come up. I recommend backing up first, then setting up the target disk partitions and bootcode: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Then use dump/restore to copy from the original: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html > The problem is always, that is can't boot, when it come from a hdd to a ssd. I have not experienced this, but my first guesses would be that bootcode was not installed, or that it is one of the earlier FreeBSD versions that did not boot at all if the secondary GPT table was not correct. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 17:22:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43D2AF3CF8 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 608A19B6 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 168E63CF24; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:22:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u93HMJbY002348; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:22:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:22:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Cc: "lokadamus@gmx.de" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost Message-Id: <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 17:22:29 -0000 On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > In the old MBR days, there was no serious problem with partition tables, > because there was only one partition table at the start of the disk. > GPT puts one at the start of the disk and the end of the disk, so binary > copying a smaller disk to a larger one puts the secondary partition > table somewhere before the end of the larger disk. It's not really > possible to copy a larger disk to a smaller one with dd(1), so that > problem does not come up. Isn't it _technically_ possible to capture the 2nd GPT table (at the end of the source disk) and calculate its proper position in relation to the size of the target disk, and then put it there? Initial state: empty disk: /dev/da0 -------------------- Image smaller than this disk, including two GPT tables (1 and 2): source.img 1#######2 Copy the image: # dd if=source.img of=/dev/da0 /dev/da0 1#######2----------- Get the 2nd GPT table # dd if=source.img of=gpt2.img skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 gpt2.img 2 Put it at the end of the disk (the skip= value has to be calculated from the disk size): # dd if=gpt2.img of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 /dev/da0 1#######2----------2 Optional step: remove (useless or confusing) 2nd GPT table left behind by the image: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 /dev/da0 1#######-----------2 Tadaa! I assume that a 2nd GPT table somewhere inside the free space is not a problem (otherwise I'd suggest to add the additional step to overwrite it with zero bytes). However, even if this might work, it's a very ugly thing. Putting things "at the end of the disk" in the age of virtualized and easily resizable disks doesn't look very clever... > I recommend backing up first, then setting up the target disk partitions > and bootcode: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > Then use dump/restore to copy from the original: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html That's the easier approach, as it makes sure that all GPT data is going to be located at where it belings, but it involves more steps than the desired "clone" (in _one_ step). > [...] or that it is one of the earlier FreeBSD versions > that did not boot at all if the secondary GPT table was not correct. And _this_ is exactly where the oh so modern and comfortable GPT is going to shoot users in the foot. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[137.222.170.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l206sm20306786wmf.15.2016.10.03.12.02.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u93J2hZE023159; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 20:02:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u93J2h4P023158; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 20:02:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 20:02:43 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201610031902.u93J2h4P023158@mech-as222.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, konstantin@schukraft.org Subject: Re: recent security updates to 10.3-RELEASE broke xdm? Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20161002194024.lios7rsb3zmdhbbm@midgard.local.schukraft.it> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 19:02:48 -0000 >I'm running current nvidia-driver-367.44, so it's not your driver either. >Since I'd like to do a fresh reinstall once 11.0 is finalised and I'm able to work >atm I didn't bother looking into it so far, but I wanted to let you know you're not >alone. Thanks. I'm able to use startx for now, so it's not critical. I suspect xdm users are now a small minority, so perhaps it doesn't get as much testing as it could. I might submit a PR on this when I have time. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 21:06:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309EAF479D for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 21:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-0.ln-02-jnb.za.seacomnet.com [105.16.164.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 332627B1 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 21:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=Mark-Tinkas-MacBook.local) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id OEHNUW-000299-0G; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:35:20 +0200 Subject: Re: UDP Traceroute on FreeBSD To: Michael Sierchio References: <76dab24c-6c16-4935-779a-a9ef65df8d18@seacom.mu> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: Mark Tinka Message-ID: <2ce3d625-ff0b-0693-d86d-dbfbbc366cb2@seacom.mu> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:35:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/49.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 21:06:32 -0000 On 3/Oct/16 17:35, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > Absolutely, yes - unless firewall rules drop stray UDP packets > inbound, or the kernel parameter net.inet.udp.blackhole is set to 1. Thanks, Michael. That was it. Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 22:41:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2C8AF3D2A for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98EA2E95 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u93MfIFH062145 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:41:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u93MfHO6062142; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:41:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:41:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon cc: "lokadamus@gmx.de" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost In-Reply-To: <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:41:18 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:41:24 -0000 On Mon, 3 Oct 2016, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> In the old MBR days, there was no serious problem with partition tables, >> because there was only one partition table at the start of the disk. >> GPT puts one at the start of the disk and the end of the disk, so binary >> copying a smaller disk to a larger one puts the secondary partition >> table somewhere before the end of the larger disk. It's not really >> possible to copy a larger disk to a smaller one with dd(1), so that >> problem does not come up. > > Isn't it _technically_ possible to capture the 2nd GPT table (at the > end of the source disk) and calculate its proper position in relation > to the size of the target disk, and then put it there? Sure. 'gpart recover' does that, although it rebuilds the secondary table from the primary table rather than copying it. > Initial state: empty disk: > > /dev/da0 -------------------- > > Image smaller than this disk, including two GPT tables (1 and 2): > > source.img 1#######2 > > Copy the image: > > # dd if=source.img of=/dev/da0 > > /dev/da0 1#######2----------- > > Get the 2nd GPT table > > # dd if=source.img of=gpt2.img skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 > > gpt2.img 2 > > Put it at the end of the disk (the skip= value has to be calculated > from the disk size): > > # dd if=gpt2.img of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 > > /dev/da0 1#######2----------2 > > Optional step: remove (useless or confusing) 2nd GPT table left > behind by the image: > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 > > /dev/da0 1#######-----------2 > > Tadaa! It looks like a lot of work to do to use a tool that is not well suited for copying modern disks, though. > I assume that a 2nd GPT table somewhere inside the free space is > not a problem (otherwise I'd suggest to add the additional step to > overwrite it with zero bytes). > > However, even if this might work, it's a very ugly thing. Putting > things "at the end of the disk" in the age of virtualized and easily > resizable disks doesn't look very clever... Think about it for a bit, and you realize there are only two places on a disk that are known for any size of disk, the start and end. If you put a partition table somewhere aribtrary between those, it breaks up the space for the user. A backup copy of the partition table could be put next to the main one, but then both could get wiped out easily. >> I recommend backing up first, then setting up the target disk partitions >> and bootcode: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >> >> Then use dump/restore to copy from the original: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html > > That's the easier approach, as it makes sure that all GPT data is > going to be located at where it belings, but it involves more steps > than the desired "clone" (in _one_ step). What you showed above wasn't one step, either. :) Sometimes brute-force is fine. I prefer to save that as a last resort for disks. >> [...] or that it is one of the earlier FreeBSD versions >> that did not boot at all if the secondary GPT table was not correct. > > And _this_ is exactly where the oh so modern and comfortable GPT > is going to shoot users in the foot. ;-) There are BIOS implementations that will not boot unless the MBR is just right, either. All of this is kind of implying there is sort of a fixed cost to doing many things, a "pay me now or pay me later" thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 22:42:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE9FAF3EC6 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACCB71 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 22:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u93MgTCr062411 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:42:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u93MgS8d062408; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:42:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:42:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Victor Sudakov cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: complete clone/restore from a ZFS-based system replication stream In-Reply-To: <20161001043526.GA95816@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Message-ID: References: <20160926154720.GA75556@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <688eec35-bc7b-ae05-b765-106933b522d1@sentex.net> <20160929024222.GA35090@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20161001043526.GA95816@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:42:29 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:42:30 -0000 On Sat, 1 Oct 2016, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> >>> Here are the steps I used to restore a "level zero" zfs file onto a >>> new/fresh mirror. >> >> Mike, thanks to your and others' help I have developed a solution >> which works for me, at least partially. The only problem with the >> solution is that I create the second pool on /dev/vtbd2p3, but when >> the new system boots, there is no /dev/vtbd2 (naturally) and the pool >> uses /dev/diskid/DISK-BHYVE-8054-2C08-770Ap3 for the physical device, >> burying all /dev/vtbd0p* devices. > > Maybe the solution is using ZFS on whole disk, without GPT partitions, > with zfsboot(8) and ZFS volumes for swap? zvols for swap is generally not recommended. It has the overhead of the filesystem. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 3 23:08:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11131AF4503 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 23:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA2DABBE for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 23:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u93N8RP1008973 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:08:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u93N8PfA008970; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:08:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:08:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Ian Smith cc: David Christensen , Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img installer changes contents of USB flash drive In-Reply-To: <20161004010853.E6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20160929014801.W6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161004010853.E6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 03 Oct 2016 17:08:27 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 23:08:32 -0000 On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > > I'd think you could just dd(1) the contents of the single installer disk > > partition into a big-enough MBR partition. Repeat for each image, then use > > boot0cfg. > > Sure, for old-style raw BSD images, but that won't work for images with: > 1) PMBR, 2) primary GPT, 3) efifat partition, 4) gptboot partition then > 5) the UFS partition - which is all we want to copy to a bootable BSD > slice - then 6) 1M(??) swap. We need to use /boot/boot bootblocks for > each slice; still, it may be easy to locate and dd just that partition > out of the mdconfig'd image - or mount it and copy; some tests needed. What is the difficulty? 1-4 are not needed for an MBR disk anyway. The UFS partition is the same either way, and gpart can install the bootcode that lives in the start of a UFS filesystem also. It would be easier to not use boot0, which is not very powerful. Syslinux or Grub can multiboot with a lot more options, although you do need to make room for them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 01:14:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C77CAF2C7E for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 01:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037542D8 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 01:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39369277; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 07:14:07 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u941EQZ7043818; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 08:14:26 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u941EO6n043817; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 08:14:24 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 08:14:24 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Warren Block Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: complete clone/restore from a ZFS-based system replication stream Message-ID: <20161004011423.GA43802@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20160926154720.GA75556@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <688eec35-bc7b-ae05-b765-106933b522d1@sentex.net> <20160929024222.GA35090@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20161001043526.GA95816@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 01:14:30 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > >>> > >>> Here are the steps I used to restore a "level zero" zfs file onto a > >>> new/fresh mirror. > >> > >> Mike, thanks to your and others' help I have developed a solution > >> which works for me, at least partially. The only problem with the > >> solution is that I create the second pool on /dev/vtbd2p3, but when > >> the new system boots, there is no /dev/vtbd2 (naturally) and the pool > >> uses /dev/diskid/DISK-BHYVE-8054-2C08-770Ap3 for the physical device, > >> burying all /dev/vtbd0p* devices. > > > > Maybe the solution is using ZFS on whole disk, without GPT partitions, > > with zfsboot(8) and ZFS volumes for swap? > > zvols for swap is generally not recommended. It has the overhead of the > filesystem. Solaris is cool with zvols for swap. Do we have some drawbacks peculiar to FreeBSD? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 09:10:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AD7AF44FA; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulamani.sethi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22e.google.com (mail-it0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39CEFA1B; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulamani.sethi@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 188so20839200iti.0; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 02:10:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bc0cRc0ErU4fAQjTuP1qIrOlH8y/bqQ2c6XkOBda9sc=; b=McFDQZsKI0k42xylXWQFDUo/CBQ8qnVhsekAMCgkbLjrKZre1+2EicroO1lMYXg2YG jeh+ONTSOcTVJrug+agmicRW2AgUDlDz2IoFvGNwgaSkyX4vqT4tbFuq2IDsg6DHcP3Z EgUmJOxy8qZiE6QCCOz5toWCOt9eyyfH0dUqKN5CR85yHq47MXcDGsvU/T7Qqknxo0cm i/XdFGFPFoasAiHVCCMPthq1eXWeQOflZy06E9Yv3AYNKbWDrDICfMZhxaIWLdFcbW/k BzzGiVK0OUSGHrCTEtAubHcSURHqBpBtAFh+D9cMUKIFqh4XJ78F25TvXDttQ1MU9Fve j5jw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bc0cRc0ErU4fAQjTuP1qIrOlH8y/bqQ2c6XkOBda9sc=; b=AyLfJ/3IzrsazflmXwtKolxhECJJnwB38rrqy6I8sk/PSSt3ExDsivkqsk/tg6uWT/ 2cPsSG87rirZF96v76HGpOry7857gd2ALyn9vqhUO6cNyT+ol/vra0SRRWCNhQ8MDZDX jV6mZ90LkpOUA/Hejv/o9GlAbjCS47WUq6XYm7YqcR05Dk8a6StKVxoKGrYXuYzHlYwk VtjkPp9J4DwnOKoLl86yMmCQw3iS1qJ71Tkyok1s4XKR8GgxNC6z4ic+1ssmyU7HGhnp 5p7v1tY8yTOmOk8K9VrzpeskypSYkRKX2Akkw22XvXRigBkG+K2IizREr+suJhmSZ/Tq cqDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RneUUL1EiEJ1E5XQwznYLKtnTQ4/KPdde5vXvceB6NjGO6JrxE5U8iBwz7vtUnliWXtI7BpfZQRhxfocQ== X-Received: by 10.36.245.9 with SMTP id k9mr3042277ith.81.1475572205459; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 02:10:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.104.148 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 02:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kulamani Sethi Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:40:05 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: IPFW+ Dummynet on Windows 10 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:10:06 -0000 Hi, I'm lucky to find your contact information for FreeBSD-STABLE. I am developing a small application using IPFW+Dummynet (ipfw3) in windows-7 x64 machine, but when I try to test that in Windows-10 OS I unable to add the Service in Network Settings. Seems ipfw3 does not support in windows-10 OS. I also checked here ipfw precompiled modules available upto windows-7 64bit. No more update after 2010. Note: I have done kernel mode code signing over IPFW driver. Please help us in fixing the issue. *With best Regards,* Kulamani Sethi, India From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 09:39:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E631AF3485 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF1CB1F7C for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u949d7m7038559 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:39:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u949d7cT038556 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:39:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:39:07 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Best practice for virtualized pf based NAT router? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:39:19 -0000 Hi, I'm in the process of configuring a virtualized pf based NAT router. The NAT router is supposed be a supplement to our pool of public IPv4 addresses. FreeBSD is stable/11, r306639. XenServer 7.0.0, with all known updates, is the virtualization environment. I'm using xn0 as the external interface, and xn1 as the internal interface. The xn0 interface has a /30 IPv4 address and a /64 IPv6 address. The xn1 interface has a /20 IPv4 address (and a /64 IPv6 address for symmetry). I followed ch. 29.3.3.1 of the Handbook. In theory all is well, but with iftop(8) (net-mgmt/iftop) I only see a throughput of merely 1 Mbit/s, yes, that's one megabit per second. Running fetch(1) and ftp(1) directly on the NAT router gives me far better speeds, anything from 480 Mbit/s to 720 Mbit/s. My /etc/pf.conf file looks like this: ### 8< ###################### snip ################################ >8 # From the example in the Handbook, ch. 29.3.3.1. # Macros: ext_if="xn0" int_if="xn1" localnet = $int_if:network # Rules: nat on $ext_if from $localnet to any -> ($ext_if) block all pass from { lo0, $localnet } to any keep state # My own stuff: # Should I restrict any non-NAT44 traffic or let it all pass? pass all # Allow IPv6 everywhere. # Maybe not reasonable for a NAT44 GW, but it's not acting as an IPv6 GW. #pass inet6 all # We should allow SLAAC on $int_if. # Maybe this rule is too generous. #pass on $int_if inet6 keep state # These rules allows the GW to talk to outsiders via $ext_if. # Maybe the rules are too generous. #pass inet from $ext_if to any keep state #pass inet6 from $ext_if to any keep state ### 8< ###################### snip ################################ >8 Does anyone have any advice on how to achieve better throughput? I'm not new to FreeBSD, but pf is an unknown territory. My last attempt at doing NAT was with IPFW and natd(8) running FreeBSD 4 or 5 on a physical computer, some 15 years ago. Any advice will be highly appreciated. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 10:19:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C33AF4295 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 10:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD89CCFB for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 10:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [172.16.5.2] (vega.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::3]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAE6F158C5; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:19:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Trond =?utf-8?q?Endrest=C3=B8l?=" Cc: "FreeBSD questions" Subject: Re: Best practice for virtualized pf based NAT router? Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 12:19:55 +0200 Message-ID: <2962E958-6570-4991-AC20-2A5FF39CC39C@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6056) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 10:19:59 -0000 On 4 Oct 2016, at 11:39, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > I'm in the process of configuring a virtualized pf based NAT router. > The NAT router is supposed be a supplement to our pool of public IPv4 > addresses. > > FreeBSD is stable/11, r306639. XenServer 7.0.0, with all known > updates, is the virtualization environment. > > I'm using xn0 as the external interface, and xn1 as the internal > interface. > > The xn0 interface has a /30 IPv4 address and a /64 IPv6 address. > The xn1 interface has a /20 IPv4 address (and a /64 IPv6 address for > symmetry). > > I followed ch. 29.3.3.1 of the Handbook. > > In theory all is well, but with iftop(8) (net-mgmt/iftop) I only see a > throughput of merely 1 Mbit/s, yes, that's one megabit per second. > There have been issues with pf and checksums in Xen before. I believe that the version you’re running has all of the relevant fixes, but it’s worth trying to disable TSO and other features on the network interfaces anyway. ifconfig xn0 -rxcsum -txcsum -rxcsum6 -txcsum6 -tso6 -tso4 -lro (and the same for xn1). If that makes a difference I’d be very interested in both network captures and further debugging. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 11:02:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD9AF4D89 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0463C35D; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u94B2ctI038964 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:02:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u94B2ciD038961; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:02:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:02:38 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Kristof Provost cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Best practice for virtualized pf based NAT router? In-Reply-To: <2962E958-6570-4991-AC20-2A5FF39CC39C@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <2962E958-6570-4991-AC20-2A5FF39CC39C@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:02:47 -0000 On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:19+0200, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 4 Oct 2016, at 11:39, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > I'm in the process of configuring a virtualized pf based NAT router. > > The NAT router is supposed be a supplement to our pool of public IPv4 > > addresses. > > > > FreeBSD is stable/11, r306639. XenServer 7.0.0, with all known > > updates, is the virtualization environment. > > > > I'm using xn0 as the external interface, and xn1 as the internal > > interface. > > > > The xn0 interface has a /30 IPv4 address and a /64 IPv6 address. > > The xn1 interface has a /20 IPv4 address (and a /64 IPv6 address for > > symmetry). > > > > I followed ch. 29.3.3.1 of the Handbook. > > > > In theory all is well, but with iftop(8) (net-mgmt/iftop) I only see a > > throughput of merely 1 Mbit/s, yes, that's one megabit per second. > > > There have been issues with pf and checksums in Xen before. I believe that the > version you’re running has all of the relevant fixes, but it’s worth trying to > disable TSO and other features on the network interfaces anyway. > > ifconfig xn0 -rxcsum -txcsum -rxcsum6 -txcsum6 -tso6 -tso4 -lro (and the same > for xn1). That made all the difference. Thank you. > If that makes a difference I’d be very interested in both network captures and > further debugging. I'm pretty sure you ment if your proposed changes _doesn't_ make any difference, but if you want network captures, etc, I'm sure I can arrange it. Thank you again. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 11:17:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258D8AF50C1 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2F8D67 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [172.16.5.2] (vega.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::3]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F26FE159BD; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:17:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Trond =?utf-8?q?Endrest=C3=B8l?=" Cc: "FreeBSD questions" Subject: Re: Best practice for virtualized pf based NAT router? Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:17:36 +0200 Message-ID: <43E11CD6-3B19-4807-A528-546D66C58962@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <2962E958-6570-4991-AC20-2A5FF39CC39C@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6056) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:17:41 -0000 On 4 Oct 2016, at 13:02, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:19+0200, Kristof Provost wrote: >> ifconfig xn0 -rxcsum -txcsum -rxcsum6 -txcsum6 -tso6 -tso4 -lro (and >> the same >> for xn1). > > That made all the difference. Thank you. > Bah. I was hoping I’d put that bug to rest. >> If that makes a difference I’d be very interested in both network >> captures and >> further debugging. > > I'm pretty sure you ment if your proposed changes _doesn't_ make any > difference, but if you want network captures, etc, I'm sure I can > arrange it. > No, I meant if this helped. It means that a bug I thought was fully fixed is still there. The fix was done in r289316: pf: Fix TSO issues In certain configurations (mostly but not exclusively as a VM on Xen) pf produced packets with an invalid TCP checksum. The problem was that pf could only handle packets with a full checksum. The FreeBSD IP stack produces TCP packets with a pseudo-header checksum (only addresses, length and protocol). Certain network interfaces expect to see the pseudo-header checksum, so they end up producing packets with invalid checksums. To fix this stop calculating the full checksum and teach pf to only update TCP checksums if TSO is disabled or the change affects the pseudo-header checksum. PR: 154428, 193579, 198868 Relnotes: yes Sponsored by: RootBSD It’s great that you’ve got a workaround, but the problem should be completely gone, and it’s clearly not. If you’re willing to spend a bit more time on this I’d like to dig into it a bit, and try to find out what I missed. Let’s start by looking at the network capture (with the offloads turned back on, so we can reproduce the problem). I expect we’ll see incorrect TCP checksums, which is the cause of your bad performance. It’s slightly surprising that it only happens in the forwarding path, but at least that’s something to go on. 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Including the boot blocks > of the cloned disk? > If so, dump and restore will only perform like a full backup. > The target (copy-to) disk will not be bootable. > If you want it bootable, then there is a simlpe procedure > 1. Obtain a new disk with sufficient capacity as close as possible > to size of the source disk. Not less than, though!! > 2. dd if= of=/dev/..... i.e. the new disk> > bs=128M conv=notrunc conv=fdatasync > > When finished, without error, > the new disk will be a bootable mirror of the original. > > HTH > > snip > I have a 10.3 box using a MBR 1.5 TB hard drive. This Box acts as the LANs front door firewall to the public network. The 1.5 TB disk is being waisted in this situation. What would you recommend as the quickest method to clone the running system from the 1.5TB disk to a 40MB disk? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 15:09:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F8CAF34D3 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B0D5E17 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AACEA3CEE2; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u94F9gXP002332; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:09:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:09:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: JD , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system to a smaller disk. Message-Id: <20161004170942.8875cd6a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <57F3B40B.2080804@gmail.com> References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <57F3B40B.2080804@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:09:47 -0000 On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:52:11 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > I have a 10.3 box using a MBR 1.5 TB hard drive. This Box acts as the > LANs front door firewall to the public network. The 1.5 TB disk is being > waisted in this situation. What would you recommend as the quickest > method to clone the running system from the 1.5TB disk to a 40MB disk? Preparing the target disk with MBR or GPT or Dedicated (use GPT except you have a good reason not to), then use dump + restore. You can find more information here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_gpt http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_copying_filesystems The advantage of dump | restore is that only blocks in use will be copied, and it works on file system level (instead of disk block level like dd). Initializing the target disk prior to starting the copy operation will make sure the partition data is being written to the correct places. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 15:10:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A8EAF3657 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72597F71 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u94Ehdb5017380; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 01:43:39 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 01:43:39 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block cc: David Christensen , Perry Hutchison , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img installer changes contents of USB flash drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20161005013435.E6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20160929014801.W6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161001235138.N6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20161004010853.E6806@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:10:53 -0000 On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:00:25 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > I'd think you could just dd(1) the contents of the single installer disk > > > partition into a big-enough MBR partition. Repeat for each image, then > > > use boot0cfg. > > > > Sure, for old-style raw BSD images, but that won't work for images with: > > 1) PMBR, 2) primary GPT, 3) efifat partition, 4) gptboot partition then > > 5) the UFS partition - which is all we want to copy to a bootable BSD > > slice - then 6) 1M(??) swap. We need to use /boot/boot bootblocks for > > each slice; still, it may be easy to locate and dd just that partition > > out of the mdconfig'd image - or mount it and copy; some tests needed. > > What is the difficulty? 1-4 are not needed for an MBR disk anyway. The UFS > partition is the same either way, and gpart can install the bootcode that > lives in the start of a UFS filesystem also. You're right, I'm probably over-thinking it. Any moment now 11.0 will be out and I'll grab a memstick.img and dvd1.iso and play till it goes, though I expect to hold my own upgrades to 10.3 for the time being. > It would be easier to not use boot0, which is not very powerful. Syslinux or > Grub can multiboot with a lot more options, although you do need to make room > for them. Of course you're right, but I think I can get by with 4 bootable images, and I'd prefer doing it all with native tools whenever possible. Thanks for all your help, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 15:19:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98418AF3B3B for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1B07F8 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id r30so31277297ioi.1 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:19:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vTDtF6HmRrYmPEsYKjdtCtKOPq3e+kJg7oPpliLIJJE=; b=bN7cCrIvVv8srkHwLKUaVIKMSaS8Bbajv717Q1ke/6I3LMJmPWnqMuFFxiTgBR2KP0 5pJeRe/dKH4Mo8TNXKa/IDSfM67uwPYhUgUF+K4H7MdI/+5yQcV8Slf6jB1nYC0JbgIm K4anW68TLUx3uVjpQkVnoWMfc9e5+dAoA7Ec+0xLEW3kB3O9Izq8IYKFID04PhFv4v55 SaLLnFftVlGegTcVm9DHpWYSGU0lLEL4etojz59AAQe267IHexJrxNQFUVNfB8RqP0c8 Cal87BZ484Z/aS9ZDBUgFQw6EvbOE4hPyZN8XVJUivVyzIecPxB/m+2RXDcyNgEAcYwt fdpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vTDtF6HmRrYmPEsYKjdtCtKOPq3e+kJg7oPpliLIJJE=; b=WfyaGJLdxvP4CYF+tO6xR98PhGixuSDlUHMqgmkvOmsgm6xb0zmPZkdxiv6V4vDe6p 2ro0azGmkmOjVLGDwM7XhQOoMI8cK1ZM2GuRcmI4X6kZHhr1tNPgZ209srKBwUUMx2mU e7Q+Gx2Z/dkqB1+9hIYTj7G59OgKuzRtcxVpYqrDG0qJX+4eplvDhy2HNm8bsPk44OsP thei+iUxoz+4AaNrUlPNoIRynN04k+ra1l/Rim7VzTG/TVEQJEG2DSpag65czkUu4fxx SgCPQvmSR3b+dEARArcJ6ByNoFx3XcDRYnVqoYmZT4gpkZ7yzvwE5mLqcy9M8GTuQTHs rrhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnwWHgxWY9o8jW+ha8xWcMZIuofWB0wvTKp4LgkTJArn+AO9XAiBBVwbdrTs3NO1A== X-Received: by 10.107.128.205 with SMTP id k74mr5231996ioi.223.1475594381529; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.3] (cpe-24-165-201-26.neo.res.rr.com. [24.165.201.26]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x128sm9867470ite.22.2016.10.04.08.19.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57F3C897.2020600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:19:51 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system to a smaller disk. References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <57F3B40B.2080804@gmail.com> <20161004170942.8875cd6a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20161004170942.8875cd6a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:19:42 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:52:11 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> I have a 10.3 box using a MBR 1.5 TB hard drive. This Box acts as the >> LANs front door firewall to the public network. The 1.5 TB disk is being >> waisted in this situation. What would you recommend as the quickest >> method to clone the running system from the 1.5TB disk to a 40MB disk? > > Preparing the target disk with MBR or GPT or Dedicated (use GPT > except you have a good reason not to), then use dump + restore. > You can find more information here: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_gpt > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_copying_filesystems > > The advantage of dump | restore is that only blocks in use will > be copied, and it works on file system level (instead of disk > block level like dd). Initializing the target disk prior to > starting the copy operation will make sure the partition data > is being written to the correct places. > > Thanks for your quick reply. I would like to do the same thing with a win7 disk as source. But on my 10.3 and 11.0-rc2 systems the mount_ntfs command is missing. How do I mount a win7 disk in read mode so I can back it up? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 4 15:40:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FC3AF5457 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A2CDF1 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 15:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-151-121.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.151.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DD763CF0E; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u94FeQb7002418; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:40:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:40:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system to a smaller disk. Message-Id: <20161004174026.89e646f1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <57F3C897.2020600@gmail.com> References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <57F3B40B.2080804@gmail.com> <20161004170942.8875cd6a.freebsd@edvax.de> <57F3C897.2020600@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:40:30 -0000 On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 11:19:51 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:52:11 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> I have a 10.3 box using a MBR 1.5 TB hard drive. This Box acts as the > >> LANs front door firewall to the public network. The 1.5 TB disk is being > >> waisted in this situation. What would you recommend as the quickest > >> method to clone the running system from the 1.5TB disk to a 40MB disk? > > > > Preparing the target disk with MBR or GPT or Dedicated (use GPT > > except you have a good reason not to), then use dump + restore. > > You can find more information here: > > > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_gpt > > > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_copying_filesystems > > > > The advantage of dump | restore is that only blocks in use will > > be copied, and it works on file system level (instead of disk > > block level like dd). Initializing the target disk prior to > > starting the copy operation will make sure the partition data > > is being written to the correct places. > > > > > > Thanks for your quick reply. > > I would like to do the same thing with a win7 disk as source. > But on my 10.3 and 11.0-rc2 systems the mount_ntfs command is missing. > How do I mount a win7 disk in read mode so I can back it up? You need to install FUSE and then use the "ntfs3g " command to mount it. The traditional mount_ntfs "read only" NTFS mount binary is not part of the system anymore, sadly. Please note: The dump | restore mechanism mentioned does work on the filesystem level (here: UFS), not on the file level (like "copying individual files and directory trees"). I'm not sure this is the best way to deal with "Windows" filesystems (no matter if you use cp or rsync) as they are treated as virtual file systems (like "mapping NTFS into UFS"). So you maybe better DEFRAG and dd. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 00:27:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF09AF6153 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 00:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x230.google.com (mail-it0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 602C9860 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 00:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x230.google.com with SMTP id j69so166222608itb.0 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=q10NCAczhYaHNS/hsNvNcNTyUgOUwKtVpuPbIB/lncU=; b=RSWXNlcnmXN/uNlTGQMG+9sIhaH4jFbPai7wmj0g+IREZcGkx+BZxC4Sb31GLiVTkL 0JWKdxC++xoJkVchJNZfIonjKhBCvCzFgSOqpDT+WBXdaAcFpzCpCkADETMtEfsI+3Ah doXg+xbLRGaPPRab7UxYk12RwCiH503d1re+0kGPTxbSdD7P7QyT/s8XUMKn8o0fqJxV /ge0ZisUHIrg7/IVXJWiOgevOahrttinSOSJQGpg+KAAYrB2OK86oYwY90bbm9teSnjN IqLgntZFfgHXSiuQpAeW1TJ/j1bq2H0Lk0LdUUU8HuSArwxkBCFIqMYUj7jL/pCHjYO0 r7dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=q10NCAczhYaHNS/hsNvNcNTyUgOUwKtVpuPbIB/lncU=; b=K4Ql8vOtKDq3+6/3hUI7WqmYLm03jEcPJP0XpLsnrNbkdZ5VNQIE8YgfhuTjcILHbK UdZh7GvPbftD8qAHuBPzp06f9U+r4EDsIhQu/B5E9sGuqLYM5m5TOxwoNaolAE7Qxbbk 21tXFbjtKu/WDmPTAHsbd012Nnu+T4KuY4YQSATUyAc3mIyiVD5TFftDyKdQQVUQIdKL K5VyCJLNLR3aZlgzwmvYVYNQerzSZ4GUHQ6ozaiLIxykjEK02KNJCkBZBE8wVI4qH1oh IZ4yp46RokpnxKpf39iwUqmNDn74Wpe/TF5kBT6O/Sc9UH80wV4Tx7Dmw+9bl1vOu813 tyqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmmzbmYePxhK6CLADSGoAw2/o1vWuiwPKUL9/Hsqrzf6LvOCdbMWBK/UeIowKyYjnIs5rb8e+WLY/1Hew== X-Received: by 10.36.142.196 with SMTP id h187mr6919695ite.108.1475627245688; Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:27:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.87.140 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:26:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Jack L." Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 17:26:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost To: Warren Block Cc: Polytropon , "lokadamus@gmx.de" , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:27:26 -0000 have you tried gpart backup src|gpart restore target? That's usually how I clone my partitions On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2016, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:49:06 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: >> >>> In the old MBR days, there was no serious problem with partition tables, >>> because there was only one partition table at the start of the disk. >>> GPT puts one at the start of the disk and the end of the disk, so binary >>> copying a smaller disk to a larger one puts the secondary partition >>> table somewhere before the end of the larger disk. It's not really >>> possible to copy a larger disk to a smaller one with dd(1), so that >>> problem does not come up. >>> >> >> Isn't it _technically_ possible to capture the 2nd GPT table (at the >> end of the source disk) and calculate its proper position in relation >> to the size of the target disk, and then put it there? >> > > Sure. 'gpart recover' does that, although it rebuilds the secondary table > from the primary table rather than copying it. > > Initial state: empty disk: >> >> /dev/da0 -------------------- >> >> Image smaller than this disk, including two GPT tables (1 and 2): >> >> source.img 1#######2 >> >> Copy the image: >> >> # dd if=source.img of=/dev/da0 >> >> /dev/da0 1#######2----------- >> >> Get the 2nd GPT table >> >> # dd if=source.img of=gpt2.img skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 >> >> gpt2.img 2 >> >> Put it at the end of the disk (the skip= value has to be calculated >> from the disk size): >> >> # dd if=gpt2.img of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 >> >> /dev/da0 1#######2----------2 >> >> Optional step: remove (useless or confusing) 2nd GPT table left >> behind by the image: >> >> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 skip=1000 bs=1M count=1 >> >> /dev/da0 1#######-----------2 >> >> Tadaa! >> > > It looks like a lot of work to do to use a tool that is not well suited > for copying modern disks, though. > > I assume that a 2nd GPT table somewhere inside the free space is >> not a problem (otherwise I'd suggest to add the additional step to >> overwrite it with zero bytes). >> >> However, even if this might work, it's a very ugly thing. Putting >> things "at the end of the disk" in the age of virtualized and easily >> resizable disks doesn't look very clever... >> > > Think about it for a bit, and you realize there are only two places on a > disk that are known for any size of disk, the start and end. If you put a > partition table somewhere aribtrary between those, it breaks up the space > for the user. A backup copy of the partition table could be put next to > the main one, but then both could get wiped out easily. > > I recommend backing up first, then setting up the target disk partitions >>> and bootcode: >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >>> >>> Then use dump/restore to copy from the original: >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html >>> >> >> That's the easier approach, as it makes sure that all GPT data is >> going to be located at where it belings, but it involves more steps >> than the desired "clone" (in _one_ step). >> > > What you showed above wasn't one step, either. :) > > Sometimes brute-force is fine. I prefer to save that as a last resort for > disks. > > [...] or that it is one of the earlier FreeBSD versions >>> that did not boot at all if the secondary GPT table was not correct. >>> >> >> And _this_ is exactly where the oh so modern and comfortable GPT >> is going to shoot users in the foot. ;-) >> > > There are BIOS implementations that will not boot unless the MBR is just > right, either. > > All of this is kind of implying there is sort of a fixed cost to doing > many things, a "pay me now or pay me later" thing. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 03:59:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830CCAF4905 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 03:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3934CF33 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 03:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2686D7886; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:49:38 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1475639378; x=1477453779; bh=199vuIoLo IUozgAqsRx8nzfaHVxroUDOS4AfnUyVkdU=; b=BLOEEHLyx9c+vjUM1U4mNuxGc 2njIIxI4eN3z9e/kvIkQIE4K1TeqlV7V4yHmIaWyFq6KRzyLkubLGu++Bz5zaSZ7 VjouXeh50VzWdZsQss5QmrYSyHZ0kPTPUEojoGG2Kr9vJ4rsff1VbHXMxNLl0tKj YgIbJlGOGsvgXPjb3c= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id z8rYtqUS22kE; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:49:38 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB1B5D7881; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:49:37 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u953nbmK036555; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:49:37 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Ernie Luzar Cc: jd1008@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system to a smaller disk. In-Reply-To: <57F3B40B.2080804@gmail.com> (message from Ernie Luzar on Tue, 04 Oct 2016 09:52:11 -0400) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 10:49:36 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 03:59:09 -0000 Ernie Luzar writes: > I have a 10.3 box using a MBR 1.5 TB hard drive. This Box acts as the > LANs front door firewall to the public network. The 1.5 TB disk is being > waisted in this situation. What would you recommend as the quickest > method to clone the running system from the 1.5TB disk to a 40MB disk? You may want to have a look at https://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html Igf you forget the part about virtual machine, the part about cloning is there and quite complete. I wrote that as a guide for myself, putting my personal notes one a nice page, so I can refer to it whenever I need it. But if it can help you. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 09:05:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477D1AF51C0 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEC7BF1 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 29413AF51BF; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E1DAF51BE for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC482BF0 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77F8D7886 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:05:20 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1475658319; x=1477472720; bh=jtmyI787zlC7h2n5MbOO/t PLv6cxy02FNL4mGDM3Fzg=; b=i/7fLwfRq4ijM9VEEwIfTtKG2OqaiXgzOoUk4i q7Iakd8tGRsWmcex4xolfjfkqfsIAwmqpgqJJIbbdiTYcXh5LLHQDi/RqJOEHi4r t5sSF9iKhdZN++yli37Sn2irbaUHoB0eMVP9QgTuOKxMAqsN+r0dssRMlHHUUWti WhvRM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id WeTxQfeYonwI for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:05:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A10FDD7881 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:05:19 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u9595Jr1042696; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:05:19 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mencoder for a webcam Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 16:05:19 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:05:25 -0000 Hi, I used to have it working, but I cannot find how to get that working again: I have a webcam installed, webcamd running, and pwcview can show me the video. How can I use mencoder to capture and save the stream? I used to have something of the form: /usr/local/bin/mencoder tv:// -tv noaudio:fps=10 -nosound -ovc lavc -ofps 10 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400 -o -really-quiet but it now complains that: tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open bktr device. Error: No such file or directory tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open tuner device. Error: No such file or directory tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open dsp device. Error: Operation not supported So what is the secret command to get mencoder grab the video stream from the webcam? Thanks in advance, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 09:52:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC21AF5465 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE526E2 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CE369AF5461; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDCFAF5460 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x231.google.com (mail-yw0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BE5D6E1 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x231.google.com with SMTP id i129so154493497ywb.0 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2G/JC2B4UUvAFT4YipZox0DA4kaA2pPKu/yE1DCTWOU=; b=e02hTkViVPY4GB7thWv0TxHGiNhscjy2wbJ/+gMS+sydtrCmEDU9Z8yLZgnIKyKcgE b6sZMmypM3gIFG4RI8218E012/+9d0y8U6yQDqhV6SbF81uzomTZpI6tI0PVxdyjjPDq J6CQwK9nEKL3IqPoKn89tDi2VEy56zZICGVs8dwdnLo/meMitrxJRqtFPSXPAHFI2Sy/ XqSEEozKKENpYFb6gOgCoC0HMuLK0EbF03ALo4G7veS8vfsJ7m686n62JGT+WBL8cy3S x9EiDAKH2jtYt0RvKZG8vQDylByTAHvzOR3nWIML4LOngZxul2TYfCrfUlOTMmMPRrp5 n+kQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2G/JC2B4UUvAFT4YipZox0DA4kaA2pPKu/yE1DCTWOU=; b=fZMBesz3pupaJnTIJDhwSis4L8+4aJCQxUH9VdDgdJeN4JXUKJtYdO5zoHavm5TNga rt/n7XIhXPLtXM1OjJuSDm94q4CDOBoDq0AP/Qo7pjkFCdHmWzru0nP9OETjH103sNSc Og0HT767S/XRpZ7o2HpbGbJOPCPBTWGwegIjPSUSofbyEPSnPw5r6yUgKjQYeQ/tSNTX S6jh7O2lQykz9Zp2xBXtElRiNu3MPkyJhglxehgWautw+p2D2UbrkDPF9nh8BRlcGzTS i8mmPk+92S09MVEug6b8ntfasuTBnjjoukgaN1KnmKIQmW6jSmdZ07pEojOmERVCGMRl qiEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rkn8Ic9DyTy7YPCk5ZKpZNzf7ApzzjB+o6tIQg1drElk1VEuBq7XrKNbrn15BNkK9dQPT7ioat7KRv9cw== X-Received: by 10.37.5.15 with SMTP id 15mr6442586ybf.158.1475661163740; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:52:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.88.214 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 02:52:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 02:52:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mencoder for a webcam To: Olivier Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:52:45 -0000 On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Olivier wrote: > Hi, > > I used to have it working, but I cannot find how to get that working > again: > > I have a webcam installed, webcamd running, and pwcview can show me the > video. > > How can I use mencoder to capture and save the stream? > > I used to have something of the form: > > /usr/local/bin/mencoder tv:// -tv noaudio:fps=10 -nosound -ovc lavc > -ofps 10 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400 -o -really-quiet > > but it now complains that: > > tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open bktr device. Error: No such file or directory > tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open tuner device. Error: No such file or directory > tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open dsp device. Error: Operation not supported > > So what is the secret command to get mencoder grab the video stream from > the webcam? > > Thanks in advance, > > Olivier > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Please search bktr device in Google . For example , see link : https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bktr&sektion=4 Perhaps some of links may be useful for you . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 09:57:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3542DAF568F for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1951B8F2 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 15B23AF568E; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15581AF568D for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4D518F1 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 09:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C888D7886; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:57:13 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1475661432; x=1477475833; bh=omNgvMZ3F 0gugLspi3qNjYUVAFtcwgEr2ba5BoA0knY=; b=nZhMgumYbEO9D6NsNwhU9yK+N amhnIKgI7inT3IvfqfMgDHgMgrQKKwPNhdtuWFbNO30kccEFy8FvvseNizmmhPSd FhIpcXPvpxnBiTA/n00s+UCOnGfYKIuirjYg5WP0XlkrKEWPR+Z0H2rh5892hCqu 0a33O03u2ux7NycsiU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xY__Y-am2H5c; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:57:12 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B337D7881; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:57:12 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u959vC6r043558; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 16:57:12 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mencoder for a webcam In-Reply-To: (message from Mehmet Erol Sanliturk on Wed, 5 Oct 2016 02:52:43 -0700) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 16:57:12 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:57:16 -0000 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk writes: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:05 AM, Olivier wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I used to have it working, but I cannot find how to get that working >> again: >> >> I have a webcam installed, webcamd running, and pwcview can show me the >> video. >> >> How can I use mencoder to capture and save the stream? >> >> I used to have something of the form: >> >> /usr/local/bin/mencoder tv:// -tv noaudio:fps=10 -nosound -ovc lavc >> -ofps 10 -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=400 -o -really-quiet >> >> but it now complains that: >> >> tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open bktr device. Error: No such file or directory >> tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open tuner device. Error: No such file or directory >> tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open dsp device. Error: Operation not supported >> >> So what is the secret command to get mencoder grab the video stream from >> the webcam? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Olivier >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > > Please search > > bktr device > > in Google . > > > For example , see link : > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bktr&sektion=4 This concerns the brooktree device driver, it is not related to USB webcam. Or I am missing something. 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Error: No such file or > directory > >> tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open tuner device. Error: No such file or > directory > >> tvi_bsdbt848: Unable to open dsp device. Error: Operation not supported > >> > >> So what is the secret command to get mencoder grab the video stream from > >> the webcam? > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Olivier > >> > >> -- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > Please search > > > > bktr device > > > > in Google . > > > > > > For example , see link : > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bktr&sektion=4 > > This concerns the brooktree device driver, it is not related to USB > webcam. > > Or I am missing something. > > Best regards, > > Olivier > > Is there a possibility to search tvi_bsdbt848 in Google and see the related source(s) to decide why the above parts are required . > > > > Perhaps some of links may be useful for you . > > > > > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 13:12:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC9DAF51AE for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 13:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laoluomoks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E81813F0 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 13:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laoluomoks@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id f193so19909332wmg.2 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 06:12:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:subject:message-id :to; bh=gK7L7SNt855hZ+a2qQ+a5dmccBRiqFeYF9KS1eNQJ3A=; b=HxhjHOR4VH23guDGE4DlAkTPg+oxOFElrC/ijIJ9j7R/D7VFJ7d43rP4Dtr1jVP0xZ zUmwqbtfj2EdGrdAIabFD5e39erqq3DNHvPj+jnW8iy8/kjlbKzI2BXmlxeX5tn4/6nX qKbiVxgS+rNs3h7apmO+C3MF1UpBREba04d3YlG7sstGxQcQpJmwfRwXlo3TVRi/VqD+ JMFUVLrgEoLNNymnrRg1ec5+Yge72ge9BJ+JU+Y/9JyyXTVVR9Zk2aC6opm9f/mGB5Wd hRZ8yDB3O9Za/IdV5kvhMBeiMA5xNS8k+b3X3dU4b/zQI4ZL7CFTfnlKjwN/SVqit4Wv 0aqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date :subject:message-id:to; bh=gK7L7SNt855hZ+a2qQ+a5dmccBRiqFeYF9KS1eNQJ3A=; b=C5RH5ha+k30EEgvx+Szq7of6u8WR/wndYL3pdBqZQVbunHV8co8V+UUkqT+vb6+LE4 Ex6Ej0Ifzl+zc+73KkSzsoDqiVFe1V76pGyVYj2ogbh6XZE8jpmB+wDWnwHidiA3p3dt 9v9rd2usj4q53cEGR3ca538z2W1Kqltfhnv58ItKcIxx4tT/acQMuzbRmMeISOdYbJ7+ 1QGVjdOfx7NKTYutcTk5RfaaM6bpPmJQCZ0cgp9GWp6TM2d0ZJvALP7lw3jX4gvkuSq+ jUGKRhmNxxjpx9lPixTfbdUdaDU8+/Tn8GsE0jdHriUXZOQkhXPytbtARfdecTaBkfRM YMlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmBZuaJMckBYXcFXwS2GosL2m+vPFALMfgw5RSWgDqeHvhRjyzIHOZcBd0JgXNjsA== X-Received: by 10.194.101.193 with SMTP id fi1mr7378851wjb.34.1475673146819; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 06:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.17] ([154.66.39.35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a1sm8977553wju.41.2016.10.05.06.12.25 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Oct 2016 06:12:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:12:22 +0100 Subject: Hi, dual booting issues. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 17:38:57 -0000 On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:09+0100, Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > Please I am have a little trouble dual booting xubuntu 16.04 and > FreeBSD 10.3 I have successfully installed both, xubuntu first then > the FreeBSD but on powering the system only the xubuntu comes up. > How can I make the FreeBSD show up so I can select. What's your partitioning scheme? MBR or GPT? In the case of the former you could install FreeBSD's small boot manager, /boot/boot0. The command: gpart -b /boot/boot0 ada0 should accomplish this. Adjust the command to suit the name of your harddrive, it could be da0 or something else like mfisyspd0. Hopefully xubuntu won't complain. In the case of the latter, have a look at the various EFI boot managers available. rEFInd and GRUB 2 comes to mind. 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Oct 2016, 14:09:56 +0100, Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > Please I am have a little trouble dual booting xubuntu 16.04 and FreeBSD 10.3 > I have successfully installed both, xubuntu first then the > FreeBSD but on powering the system only the xubuntu comes > up. How can I make the FreeBSD show up so I can select. I'm dual booting Gentoo Linux and FreeBSD on my laptop. The boot manager is Grub2 what probably applies to your first-Xubuntu installation, too. You need to put a section into "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" that looks like this: menuentry "FreeBSD" --class freebsd --class bsd --class os { insmod ufs2 set root=hd0,9 echo 'Loading FreeBSD ...' kfreebsd /boot/loader } (working here) or maybe menuentry "FreeBSD" --class freebsd --class bsd --class os { set root=(hd0,9) echo 'Loading FreeBSD ...' chainloader +1 } Probably you have to put this into a file like "/etc/grub.d/40_custom" and then run "grub-mkconfig". Make a copy of your existing "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" first in case you happen to spoil your whole installation. Find the detailed information how to proceed by Google. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 22:55:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9340AAF559B for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 22:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2A8A5E for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 22:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd_atog@comcast.net) Received: from resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.102]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id rv5YbTDWnTaLwrv5fb1DY5; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 22:55:07 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1475708107; bh=DJCtU1S1I5ujijqMUV8FmYR04gm3qBObLFbEqWBDU4Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=U1gbhwLUIxaeysKz9a0KLOT1LbdeZaO+j9ZUSXYFSd4VVAN4jwr7LuFpg9ab/GHmU PrV+NdseFXbRT6q3s1YrstAadQ4Ompw07QBjMI7dpZL/WIz69E/jlGQgqabgvXis2A ODnp45SL+C2OHiGSWrVMST8V1r32O/u6GvbBfuP+bJSTb7p/2oM+9eKHZQow7az2HZ 68J+XFvbToRICrEgDru9Fi9mF0xCURNNHL3+EBGJzmxPZVa/5+BWKsod+ublMOwxca CDk/e5rLvj2l0geVcOBcLVBTIlPnwhLRxSaKhke3vimd82kqs6vDvg2GMiax9IftPE nsm7L1yXss3Bw== Received: from KoggyBSD.org ([68.60.93.182]) by resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id rv5dbsdkODki4rv5ebEEoD; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 22:55:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 18:47:52 -0400 From: Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting question Message-ID: <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfK8Ss570qraE7quaHvFGzc+pVNs7m/s2m28Ef8RrcppOYxdvoWknGCJl1M37sFyzbX2KpRdqrIN4RtD5KXXpI27C1Fs12F/6e3gkZBg1BrScSEzCql+l BvJjoWAieQpvYP7Ruyu+8rK1TWUsFQqx+6EP06vjuNV8Y5qylL5SH/CR6xnxnRaAizMZIjlhGjfTjw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 22:55:09 -0000 On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:09:56 +0100 Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > Dear all , > > Please I am have a little trouble dual booting xubuntu 16.04 and > FreeBSD 10.3 I have successfully installed both, xubuntu first then > the FreeBSD but on powering the system only the xubuntu comes up. How > can I make the FreeBSD show up so I can select. > > Thanks > Ola Hi, I've seen the replies that were already posted, but I wanted to add something to this: There's a lot of ways to Dual Boot and Tri-Boot, and all that, but the easiest way in my opinion is for sure doing it during the installation. Doing this can be tricky for first timers, and you do need to sit down and read up on your exact set up, but I recall quite a few times over the years, where I'd be installing my second or third OS, and I'd reboot at the end of the installation, and then the OS I had just installed would either overwrite the MBR and I'd have no options to boot my other OSs, or, it wouldn't do something, or I did something wrong, and I couldn't boot my new OS Installation, and I'd be stuck sitting there for 2 hours looking through Configuration Files, while trying to deduce wether or not it was the new OS that didn't get put in the right spot, or, did it over write the MBR when I didn't want it too. One of the easiest things to deal with was SuSE Linux, because it has YAST and YAST2 which let you actually open the Configuration for Booting, and then from there, I'd just add whatever Options / Partitions I needed too. The problem was usually from the Installer; Sometimes I'd be using Boot Magic and I'd need to set up the Installer a little different, because I didn't want it over writing the MBR, or I'd lose my Partition Set Up, and then I wouldn't be able to boot up anything else. So for whatever it's worth, google MBR things like LILO and Grub 2, and the BSD Boot Loader, because all of those, allow you to use multiple OSs, but sometimes, you may need to edit them by hand to add new OSs, and set up which Partitions are going to be bootable. Sorry about the Length, but Hope it helps, -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 00:49:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ABDAF4D2F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com (mail-vk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34483B34 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id b186so4084130vkb.1 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ueSc4UiOpLXWqKTxTySYSwBOfMYvD/dxq+ccWsuc45k=; b=VpVe2ZL91fsAEaIAP82SLLuq6M9k04cnACsmRDFGhuNtbdplZL92qJf8MGiPy9IT6Q Duz8Zpx05iFyKaJbyyFWG6hr7dujbgdUe+KxhGuuKoWrULlY0byc1OaG/0VBbIe8TsJ2 ji4ZHMcFtmCUWzaGN9hhlhx+TwS9esYfWF8fv3FC9DnjYGEwf4A7umQUIhLmvh5ffr1Y P4vJZxCIxatk1tpPC5+kyujQTs8J7hhXnYQNTLv9dsZU8PmGvONVMOwqcsGkmC7CqxRY ycqXoqcbd+Y9LPvTsj1gorKJYEAjFnHL0uiUtykUbVv8zr5u5AQ5rewScO9ls4o6jBDG weew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ueSc4UiOpLXWqKTxTySYSwBOfMYvD/dxq+ccWsuc45k=; b=lXE1QeBo2FKE8VH9AGNgN2fmtCw1WkNotyBXNajno3MumgrVsq2PLW7EUlChmEam4K 57cTYN9FFJFzDzdai9hh6CpyrnWYUDNa8veQH3xLYnbihCirG64KR054TJhWHGTWFo8V oNUJ6Y4sK8sozxWcZg9U9WapV0QYGjFqsdNRqS7n2WLHOBoU4BBKQGmARSfEvTz62k6m PZOiXGxqh+impXVf+jrfro/K5+XLi20DUHCLCtpldInaYlqcMl0RVB/gjwCIVLorAB0s V1Q6IBoizBoxiMeTh8hlCHH0Z6TXrRr0P+m7gK+eMsGcAjvg06c40rp0o26iXmQJaYhg ThqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnVsAydRZafraeDT5JQvSwPTNMjIa+MqU2hw9RBjqou+KJo+2iA2GApSSirt30yhkl1SyO/AkXntercVA== X-Received: by 10.31.58.140 with SMTP id h134mr9350957vka.20.1475714940988; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 17:49:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.139.130 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 20:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost To: "Jack L." Cc: Warren Block , "lokadamus@gmx.de" , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 00:49:02 -0000 On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jack L. wrote: > have you tried gpart backup src|gpart restore target? > > That's usually how I clone my partitions > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Warren Block wrote: > Hey guys great discussion. Thanks for following up and all the ideas! I haven't done anything yet researching and making sure it will work OK and I end up with a stable syste. Most of my stuff is in jails anyway with EzJail so I'm thinking that if I upgrade my old system to exactly the version of the target installation the ezjail archive and restore feature will work well. I have done this before and works like a charm so long as both systems are prtty much the same version and equally updated. So I'm still undecided as to what the best approach would be at this point. I'm inclined for the ezjail archive restore right now as I know for a fact that it works. Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 01:19:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC95AAF6754 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FB32CDE for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 01:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u961J30e081860 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:19:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u961J008081715; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:19:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 19:19:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Alejandro Imass cc: "Jack L." , "lokadamus@gmx.de" , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clone a FBSD system with something in the likes of ghost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> <20161003192218.51a7f402.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:19:03 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 01:19:11 -0000 On Wed, 5 Oct 2016, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jack L. wrote: >> have you tried gpart backup src|gpart restore target? >> >> That's usually how I clone my partitions >> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> > > Hey guys great discussion. Thanks for following up and all the ideas! > > I haven't done anything yet researching and making sure it will work > OK and I end up with a stable syste. > > Most of my stuff is in jails anyway with EzJail so I'm thinking that > if I upgrade my old system to exactly the version of the target > installation the ezjail archive and restore feature will work well. I > have done this before and works like a charm so long as both systems > are prtty much the same version and equally updated. So I'm still > undecided as to what the best approach would be at this point. I'm > inclined for the ezjail archive restore right now as I know for a fact > that it works. ezjail is filesystem-based, so tools that deal with filesystems are appropriate. The built-in backup and restore should do fine. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 08:32:21 -0000 Thanks Tron, Bertram and Allen for these and all the feedback. @Tron my partition scheme is MBR @ Bertram I ended up doing something similar to what you said and was succes= sful in dual booting xubuntu and FreeBSD succesfully. Xubuntu came first and= then installed FreeBSD 10.3 then I followed this instruction similar to you= rs from here http://abhinav-upadhyay.blogspot.com.ng/2011/05/making-netbsd-dual-boot-with= -linux.html?m=3D1 FreeBSD it's just terminal right now but I also want GUI, wireless network w= orking and my printer working. How do I go from here? @Allen , my only observation is that FreeBSD 10.3 did not use all the space I= dedicated to it so I have extra partition space and wondering what to do wi= th it. Should I install a third OS like OpenBSD or NetBSD and hope it will n= ot get any more complicated having a third OS. Finally all, now that I have the FreeBSD it's just terminal but I also want G= UI, wireless network and my printer working. How do I go from here Thanks again Ola Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Oct 2016, at 11:47 PM, Allen wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:09:56 +0100 > Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: >=20 >> Dear all , >>=20 >> Please I am have a little trouble dual booting xubuntu 16.04 and >> FreeBSD 10.3 I have successfully installed both, xubuntu first then >> the FreeBSD but on powering the system only the xubuntu comes up. How >> can I make the FreeBSD show up so I can select. >>=20 >> Thanks >> Ola >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I've seen the replies that were already posted, but I wanted to add > something to this: >=20 > There's a lot of ways to Dual Boot and Tri-Boot, and all that, but the > easiest way in my opinion is for sure doing it during the installation. > Doing this can be tricky for first timers, and you do need to sit down > and read up on your exact set up, but I recall quite a few times over > the years, where I'd be installing my second or third OS, and I'd > reboot at the end of the installation, and then the OS I had just > installed would either overwrite the MBR and I'd have no options to > boot my other OSs, or, it wouldn't do something, or I did something > wrong, and I couldn't boot my new OS Installation, and I'd be stuck > sitting there for 2 hours looking through Configuration Files, while > trying to deduce wether or not it was the new OS that didn't get put in > the right spot, or, did it over write the MBR when I didn't want it too. >=20 > One of the easiest things to deal with was SuSE Linux, because it has > YAST and YAST2 which let you actually open the Configuration for > Booting, and then from there, I'd just add whatever Options / > Partitions I needed too. >=20 > The problem was usually from the Installer; Sometimes I'd be using Boot > Magic and I'd need to set up the Installer a little different, because > I didn't want it over writing the MBR, or I'd lose my Partition Set Up, > and then I wouldn't be able to boot up anything else.=20 >=20 > So for whatever it's worth, google MBR things like LILO and Grub 2, and > the BSD Boot Loader, because all of those, allow you to use multiple > OSs, but sometimes, you may need to edit them by hand to add new OSs, > and set up which Partitions are going to be bootable. >=20 > Sorry about the Length, but Hope it helps, >=20 > -Allen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 08:43:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6108FBD32D3 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@zimbra.com) Received: from mail.article19.io (vps784.greenhost.nl [213.108.108.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25AF3977 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@zimbra.com) Received: from mail.article19.io (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.article19.io (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61EDAADB0CF7 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.article19.io (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.article19.io (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52376ADB0CF2 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.10.29] (unknown [197.53.143.89]) by mail.article19.io (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BE0DADB0CF9 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:34:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Account Verification To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Zimbra Alert" Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:33:59 +0100 X-Antivirus: avast! 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Oct 2016, 09:32:14 +0100, Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > FreeBSD it's just terminal right now but I also want GUI, > wireless network working and my printer working. How do I > go from here? At least # pkg install xorg probably # pkg install xfce and sure lots more. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 11:30:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B68BD3279 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1868316F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id b201so39845718wmb.0 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 04:30:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6CGAK6dOohqneSiJsu8/MnEOQt2hVWQgZ4UOx/9O/fU=; b=my6+yDxQPGLbNXwhaBYrM/MyCYXkiwpTTYm1csczxUPfKZeT/0po/UCi3NqE2sX9U4 C+/qS9X6dwoIzVOCHJi5+mnEUzU/V/MHav8S3KRdbhx1JIFBQZaoqjdcpqW/G+SgoXWb gAeUaEeE896pD+8ElhAj7X2aUSrjr2RrU/gsAxNiypPYX+cYWevZus0dQy/OkVwUOU+K rj3kX3nIh8QJpuH1nBe3G7QRye8v7MGIKa7Julb+OqMihvrBGXhM6R0oBy452A9vRmtI Y4tgITlwA03gvNS0AkY24ciC53ozQ2TB6EjzPqb93jA46W1yfTMKlEK0l1gkGeqn6pyL N0wQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6CGAK6dOohqneSiJsu8/MnEOQt2hVWQgZ4UOx/9O/fU=; b=Y529Oc231My1h5fRrAtBgf4zqKHKx7B6EyDGQnh0/zwRDa0BKRA/yU4/HFnNH+swU9 z2tz/hJcX76t5EYozP2X5h/FVU4uEYBO0vR487mAmmPq1a8WJXsWVkx0EWpTJfuTyQiT C1CLWT5LGplkvg5PofRPnohzQJCkAShxCVQ7WNFlhEDzdP3wdjeYZYBPAXdU8+0LIn01 ZehINxXXQN6CnTBuoOOtErRCxHCA/2NNVO3NXL74pHHUIAJ3TqBrW0euK7Lq0UDBjXqW zrPcr4zhzffHXWDaOP4SbAXsVadRVV5i2X4lmHLIbTZjOme9zUW4+eOrTfeuYNyp3zdF PQ1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnavcQmBRtWtUH/5oNKb5FFZVpp3Q6k1KKbWDtKCbNqTk/w6Z/RuMbGiXFyp02oZQ== X-Received: by 10.28.217.136 with SMTP id q130mr14597172wmg.131.1475753409127; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 04:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id vh6sm14056383wjb.0.2016.10.06.04.30.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 06 Oct 2016 04:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 12:30:02 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to port the old Logo saver to X ? Message-ID: <20161006123002.33ba9ec0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:30:11 -0000 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 07:25:51 +0000 Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I used to love the old Logo saver of FreeBSD that used to run in > console mode. This was available till about 2007, after which the a > new version of the Logo saver was created. The new version is not > bad, but the old one was superb. I was wondering if the old version > could be ported to X screensaver so that we can use it again? That sounds like "beastie", which was never removed. 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My Mac is set to resolution 1440x900 and my X11 config in the VM is set to this as well. After running freebsd-update fetch and install and upgrading all my packages I cannot seem to run X in VBox at that resolution. If I bring my Mac to 1680x1050, I can run that (but it's not super enjoyable due to some poor redraw latency). And I can run at 1080x1024. I tried 1400x1050, which did not work as well. What happens when I try to run at 1440x900 is that the screen is only roughly the size of the console window. It is running X, I can do all my stuff but the screen is small. xrandr claims it is running at 1440x900. Has anyone seen this? I feel like the resolution might be a red herring but I have no way to determine this. Thanks, /Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 14:03:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D771BE9F45 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 14:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AF7E3C8 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 14:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u96E3ICx011500 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:03:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u96E3HF7011497; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:03:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:03:17 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Malcolm Matalka cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD VBox Guest does not run X11 at 1440x900 In-Reply-To: <86fuo9wqc3.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <86fuo9wqc3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 14:03:32 -0000 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:37-0000, Malcolm Matalka wrote: > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD as a virtualbox guest on a OS X. My Mac is set to > resolution 1440x900 and my X11 config in the VM is set to this as well. > After running freebsd-update fetch and install and upgrading all my > packages I cannot seem to run X in VBox at that resolution. If I bring > my Mac to 1680x1050, I can run that (but it's not super enjoyable due to > some poor redraw latency). And I can run at 1080x1024. I tried > 1400x1050, which did not work as well. > > What happens when I try to run at 1440x900 is that the screen is only > roughly the size of the console window. It is running X, I can do all > my stuff but the screen is small. xrandr claims it is running at > 1440x900. > > Has anyone seen this? I feel like the resolution might be a red herring > but I have no way to determine this. Have you enabled EFI firmware for your VBox guest? If you have, you're out of luck as there is currently no KMS driver for VBox. If you're running the guest with BIOS firmware, you might need to craft your own /etc/x11/xorg.conf file. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 15:44:26 -0000 Trond Endrest=C3=B8l writes: > On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 13:37-0000, Malcolm Matalka wrote: > >> Hello, >>=20 >> I am running FreeBSD as a virtualbox guest on a OS X. My Mac is set to >> resolution 1440x900 and my X11 config in the VM is set to this as well. >> After running freebsd-update fetch and install and upgrading all my >> packages I cannot seem to run X in VBox at that resolution. If I bring >> my Mac to 1680x1050, I can run that (but it's not super enjoyable due to >> some poor redraw latency). And I can run at 1080x1024. I tried >> 1400x1050, which did not work as well. >>=20 >> What happens when I try to run at 1440x900 is that the screen is only >> roughly the size of the console window. It is running X, I can do all >> my stuff but the screen is small. xrandr claims it is running at >> 1440x900. >>=20 >> Has anyone seen this? I feel like the resolution might be a red herring >> but I have no way to determine this. > > Have you enabled EFI firmware for your VBox guest? > If you have, you're out of luck as there is currently no KMS driver=20 > for VBox. I haven't changed the image since this was last working, I just upgraded FreeBSD, so I'm not sure if that would change it in the way you're preferring to. > > If you're running the guest with BIOS firmware, you might need to=20 > craft your own /etc/x11/xorg.conf file. > > Here's my xorg.conf file for use on a 1280x1024 display, with mouse=20 > support and Norwegian keyboard layout: > > http://ximalas.info/~trond/create-zfs/canmount/xorg.conf > > You'll need to add 1440x900 to the graphics resolution lists, and=20 > edit, or remove, or deactivate the InputClass and InputDevice for=20 > keyboards. I can run 1280x1024 right now without issue, and I can run 1680x1050 without issue, it's 1440x900, and 1400x1050 that do not work properly. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 17:03:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B97BEC039 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D770E3DB for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u96H1veT022072 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:01:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u96H1uFs022069; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:01:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:01:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye cc: Allen , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:01:57 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:03:33 -0000 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016, Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > Thanks Tron, Bertram and Allen for these and all the feedback. > > @Tron my partition scheme is MBR > @ Bertram I ended up doing something similar to what you said and was successful in dual booting xubuntu and FreeBSD succesfully. Xubuntu came first and then installed FreeBSD 10.3 then I followed this instruction similar to yours from here > > http://abhinav-upadhyay.blogspot.com.ng/2011/05/making-netbsd-dual-boot-with-linux.html?m=1 Some UEFI systems make it easy to define boot entries for partitions, then it's easy to just use the start boot selection menu rather than make any changes to the disk. > FreeBSD it's just terminal right now but I also want GUI, wireless network working and my printer working. How do I go from here? Start a new thread, so people won't skip over it thinking it's about dual booting because that's what the title says. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 17:03:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A3EBEC0CA for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A72F96B9 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u96H3wte022574 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:03:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u96H3wJm022571; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:03:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 11:03:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Malcolm Matalka cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD VBox Guest does not run X11 at 1440x900 In-Reply-To: <86fuo9wqc3.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <86fuo9wqc3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:03:58 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:03:59 -0000 On Thu, 6 Oct 2016, Malcolm Matalka wrote: > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD as a virtualbox guest on a OS X. My Mac is set to > resolution 1440x900 and my X11 config in the VM is set to this as well. > After running freebsd-update fetch and install and upgrading all my > packages I cannot seem to run X in VBox at that resolution. If I bring > my Mac to 1680x1050, I can run that (but it's not super enjoyable due to > some poor redraw latency). And I can run at 1080x1024. I tried > 1400x1050, which did not work as well. > > What happens when I try to run at 1440x900 is that the screen is only > roughly the size of the console window. It is running X, I can do all > my stuff but the screen is small. xrandr claims it is running at > 1440x900. > > Has anyone seen this? I feel like the resolution might be a red herring > but I have no way to determine this. Install the VirtualBox Guest Additions (emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions) inside the VM. Then use what it provides as an X driver, which should be automatic. 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My Mac is set to >> resolution 1440x900 and my X11 config in the VM is set to this as well. >> After running freebsd-update fetch and install and upgrading all my >> packages I cannot seem to run X in VBox at that resolution. If I bring >> my Mac to 1680x1050, I can run that (but it's not super enjoyable due to >> some poor redraw latency). And I can run at 1080x1024. I tried >> 1400x1050, which did not work as well. >> >> What happens when I try to run at 1440x900 is that the screen is only >> roughly the size of the console window. It is running X, I can do all >> my stuff but the screen is small. xrandr claims it is running at >> 1440x900. >> >> Has anyone seen this? I feel like the resolution might be a red herring >> but I have no way to determine this. > > Install the VirtualBox Guest Additions (emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions) inside the VM. Then use what it provides as an X driver, which > should be automatic. They are installed. To be clear: I have been running this setup for over a year. I did a freebsd-update and it no longer works. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 17:27:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868ABEC992 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from mail.robroygregg.com (173-13-147-189-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.147.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83F31920 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from funmax (funmax.d.net [192.168.16.3]) by mail.robroygregg.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a4de1a31 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 10:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 10:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Robroy Gregg X-X-Sender: robroy@funmax.d.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: isp(4) QLE2462 initiator failure with 10.3-RELEASE Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 17:27:30 -0000 FreeBSD Friends, I opened a FreeBSD Forums thread with this question on Monday. I'm sorry to duplicate the question in two places, yet I figured I might have better luck with being noticed by developers here on the mailing lists. Here's the thread: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/57923/ A chum and I have been setting up some FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE servers at work, which access ZFS pools on Hitachi Modular and Enterprise family arrays. FreeBSD attaches to the Brocade fabric with a QLE2462 FC HBA, and sees four paths to each LU. Here's a drawing of the basic idea: http://www.robroygregg.com/misc/2016Oct03.PNG The drawing leaves out a few more arrays (of the same types), and various switches in the fabric between the arrays and the two 6510s (in the drawing). ===== The Problem ===== The first FC HBA port, isp0 stopped working spontaneously, after several weeks of uptime with light I/O. All LU paths automatically failed over to isp1, yet paths through isp0 remain non-functional even now. The first sign of trouble appeared in /var/log/messages, followed by many more similar errors for other LU paths: isp0: Chan 0 Abort Cmd for N-Port 0x0005 @ Port 0x111300 isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x54) Timeout (5000000us) (started @ isp_control:4733) isp0: Mailbox Command 'EXECUTE IOCB A64' failed (TIMEOUT) isp0: isp_watchdog: timeout for handle 0x6570200d (da5:isp0:0:4:1): FIN dl16384 resid 0 CDB=0x2a 0x00 0x03 0x51 0x1b 0xe5 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 STS 0x0 XS_ERR=0xb (da5:isp0:0:4:1): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 03 51 1b e5 00 00 20 00 (da5:isp0:0:4:1): CAM status: Command timeout (da5:isp0:0:4:1): Retrying command These caused successful fail-overs to paths through isp1, which looked like this in /var/log/messages: (da5:isp0:0:4:1): Error 5, Retries exhausted GEOM_MULTIPATH: Error 5, da5 in 85040360_0999 marked FAIL GEOM_MULTIPATH: da17 is now active path in 85040360_0999 ===== What I've already tried ===== * I tried manually failing back to paths through isp0 with commands like "gmultipath restore 66209_002E da2" followed by "gmultipath rotate 66209_002E." When I/Os are tried over isp0, it shows the same, original symptom (shown below in context), until it fails back to a path through isp1. GEOM_MULTIPATH: da3 in 66209_002E is marked OK. GEOM_MULTIPATH: da3 is now active path in 66209_002E isp0: Chan 0 Abort Cmd for N-Port 0x0004 @ Port 0x0e2000 isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x54) Timeout (5000000us) (started @ isp_control:4733) isp0: Mailbox Command 'EXECUTE IOCB A64' failed (TIMEOUT) isp0: isp_watchdog: timeout for handle 0x65a7200d (da3:isp0:0:3:0): FIN dl2560 resid 0 CDB=0x2a 0x00 0x04 0x2a 0xa7 0x89 0x00 0x00 0x05 0x00 STS 0x0 XS_ERR=0xb (da3:isp0:0:3:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 00 04 2a a7 89 00 00 05 00 (da3:isp0:0:3:0): CAM status: Command timeout (da3:isp0:0:3:0): Retrying command * I've tried failing over to every possible array target for an LU, over isp0; it was the same for each target. * I've tried replacing every fiber optic cabling segment between the isp0 HBA port and the switch; the behavior was unchanged. * I've tried physically swapping the isp0 and isp1 HBA port connections--the symptom stuck to isp0, even when its I/Os were being attempted through the physical connection formerly used (successfully) by isp1. * I've tried disabling and re-enabling the Brocade switch port. When the port was enabled, it assumed the "In_Sync" state (instead of the "Online" state it shows when it's working): 2 2 150200 id N4 In_Sync FC ===== Computer information ===== This is a Hitachi CR220H, which is based on an MSI S0051a motherboard. ===== FC HBA information ===== This is a QLE2462 at firmware level 8.01.02 and BIOS level 3.29. ispfw(4)'s being used, and claims to have successfully placed its own firmware on the card during boot, presumably over-riding the levels I flashed (mentioned here). Related sysctls: # sysctl -a | grep dev.isp dev.isp.1.topo: 3 dev.isp.1.loopstate: 9 dev.isp.1.fwstate: 3 dev.isp.1.linkstate: 1 dev.isp.1.speed: 4 dev.isp.1.role: 2 dev.isp.1.gone_device_time: 30 dev.isp.1.loop_down_limit: 60 dev.isp.1.wwpn: 2378182195041974935 dev.isp.1.wwnn: 2305843126027336343 dev.isp.1.%parent: pci3 dev.isp.1.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1077 device=0x2432 subvendor=0x1077 subdevice=0x0138 class=0x0c0400 dev.isp.1.%location: pci0:3:0:1 dev.isp.1.%driver: isp dev.isp.1.%desc: Qlogic ISP 2432 PCI FC-AL Adapter dev.isp.0.topo: 3 dev.isp.0.loopstate: 9 dev.isp.0.fwstate: 3 dev.isp.0.linkstate: 1 dev.isp.0.speed: 4 dev.isp.0.role: 2 dev.isp.0.gone_device_time: 30 dev.isp.0.loop_down_limit: 60 dev.isp.0.wwpn: 2377900720063167127 dev.isp.0.wwnn: 2305843126025239191 dev.isp.0.%parent: pci3 dev.isp.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1077 device=0x2432 subvendor=0x1077 subdevice=0x0138 class=0x0c0400 dev.isp.0.%location: pci0:3:0:0 dev.isp.0.%driver: isp dev.isp.0.%desc: Qlogic ISP 2432 PCI FC-AL Adapter dev.isp.%parent: ===== FC switch information ===== Each FC HBA port's attached to a (separate) Brocade 6510 running FOS v7.4.1. The symptom's not specific to either of these switches (I tried swapping the connections around, and the symptom stuck to isp0). ===== Array information ===== LUs from both Hitachi Modular (AMS) and Enterprise (VSP) arrays are visible over the QLE2462. When this problem happens, the behavior's uniform for all array paths; the symptom's not specific to any one array, or array family. ===== What's happening now ===== I'm guessing that this problem would temporarily go away if I rebooted the computer, yet we won't be able to continue on with the project until we figure out what happened to isp0--we're afraid that it'll happen again, naturally at the most inopportune time possible. So the computer's still in its problem state now. Thanks so very much! Robroy Robroy Gregg Salinas, California From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 6 20:44:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6715FBEC2F0 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 20:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B739BFB1 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2016 20:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.0.7]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LxO7W-1apn010GiI-016wBU for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 22:44:39 +0200 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bsFWw-000NoS-CO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2016 22:44:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 22:44:38 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting question Message-ID: <20161006204438.GA91319@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7eZ35pLSVS1wNydFraQXHItDL2z8UqJMPBkdqLvYrkZYPYFc+Z1 rRDuaaMvQyLXKZvFTNLjEBiIH+cgp26e6OO6kCYFhVIipZpGiiHvFbEYaIz0zBwtGj9TQJ4 M6VcAJVCHSz5nGwe85c3tD2kdVyWNNfu/n5oobk+9G+7IesD8GdoubF+RspeDlt0asvK/Yh /eCuducUNfrj+kGREJVhw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:2t0xwrfP3gg=:SzsE1P6reNFtvjjuu/kqrQ b6Msb/I29dzmN9UixwdHjoT80qxtj1x5EglXulvX/A6je/+EZV3DPoIhqK/dAVKgyqbo76Pk6 nA7WwG2wizJ9M8kIH96z7LhM/N9D6Y+ZJMswwmWNQ779jcqy2/hDpvUGFEVGqZml8/zw9Y9GN ll274gySD34EefWKBjyrkL2KZc2BTz0QETAN8BdPy/TRMC4SWYAF/8zlTioxIAWs0+/vXcLcf RwVeszbv9+VvOWCUW8ShCvb86HRXDphoGXIEDxRHh07SGgT1X5o6ld6Hn4ENhrg4iElffgZ7/ R0ukA37VgefqQ1ggQTpkhgs+p69v4H0PpuPCfcLeMb4jJpAap/23sEIQLu9p0tylQyqPKkY4z grdj72fuh2q06biooMEhTraL0O1ZvuOPao1V+DfYVo73KBK+GIPfr/2dob2T/F83XsyBegFkZ s0ZZQkRnFisU9x8TxsDGrLap13EbUxF9YZMpTKts23x2+kvrdlQK01+iy5hfFZYZxAjok18oy k7M8XDLqPvbTWY5ZMMzZ5IaAtOYh6NREmmj1A+NEB/j7TJMTs0u4EoWxaHercme3ah/5661wn /q1HwOPMRMGQRR+BcVrc6G2yJIXeeyhydeju4jSy1TeNlvgJotCrzO61xXFCrc4AX1vsjvas6 pF7m6JtbJlLWa7cgxlWRkuAUXUByhHlClLnQYxIojRtIy2AMrM/BhMz58aFKek57RDLY= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 20:44:49 -0000 On Thursday, 06. Oct 2016, 09:32:14 +0100, Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye wrote: > Finally all, now that I have the FreeBSD it's just > terminal but I also want GUI, wireless network and my > printer working. How do I go from here First check whether you wireless card is supported at all: . Then ask a specific question in a new thread. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 06:47:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA28FBEC993 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 06:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7DE998 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 06:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:43885] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E5/CB-19357-50547F75; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:47:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:47:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting question References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.142:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=VfJ5PTZ9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=hxOSdOxVbJ2KxeBOUIwjAg==:117 a=hxOSdOxVbJ2KxeBOUIwjAg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=Q2FKXJBqwoJgQd_phcUA:9 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:47:40 -0000 > Finally all, now that I have the FreeBSD it's just terminal but I also want GUI, wireless network and my printer working. How do I go from here > Thanks again > Ola It looks like you need to read the FreeBSD handbook online. For GUI, you install xorg, which is in the ports tree at $PORTSDIR/x11/xorg : metaport for the full xorg installation. For wireless networking, you will need to read the section in the FreeBSD Handbook, and be sure to check wpa_supplicant. For printing, a lot depends on what kind of printer you have. If you have HP printer, it becomes more complicated (I speak from experience), and you will need print/hplip. Also, better to change the subject line since this is no longer about dual booting. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 07:17:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F9EBED1ED for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 315CCB15 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bsP3X-00017S-73 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:54:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bsP3w-000HVU-Jw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:55:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:54:51 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting question Message-Id: <20161007075451.4af12ba3682410f1ae175b35@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:17:04 -0000 On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:47:06 +0000 "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > > Finally all, now that I have the FreeBSD it's just terminal but I also > > want GUI, wireless network and my printer working. How do I go from here > > > Thanks again > > Ola > > It looks like you need to read the FreeBSD handbook online. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook, It is an invaluable reference. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 07:51:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE553BED75D for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@rvijay.me) Received: from mail1.rvijay.me (mail1.rvijay.me [IPv6:2a00:1dc0:2002:0:fc09:f829:babe:b00b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 646CD1775 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 07:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@rvijay.me) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.rvijay.me (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75F57EF for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:21:16 +0530 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=rvijay.me; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:to:subject:subject; s=20130919; t=1475826674; x= 1476690675; bh=1zLosKpWax5Aeecu9ZVxo7j1FtZ0ZOfSLRdUS/AHZBg=; b=V o7zAIK1I7SBqbaVB5RYyvHBkfrrtRfWDyYTjIWGAy0MDm9t9pCw5S1GPZGSvkUm/ NTk3OYpmaVGgsCt/gn3kP221b8/jCF3ofC1Iu5GjNqmf0exT1blrRtC/CKo2c7co I3hgd4bTCITG+khk9Ic0fbpiM2JakWCYedn5A+ehos= Received: from mail1.rvijay.me ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.rvijay.me [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id tw7KmWFlOTPJ for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:21:14 +0530 (IST) Received: from [192.168.100.132] (unknown [49.206.125.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.rvijay.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B15BD55ED for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:21:13 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: isp(4) QLE2462 initiator failure with 10.3-RELEASE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Vijay Rajah Message-ID: <0a7120b7-54d2-5afe-5e9a-3681e74d543e@rvijay.me> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:21:10 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:51:28 -0000 On 10/06/2016 10:50 PM, Robroy Gregg wrote: > * I've tried physically swapping the isp0 and isp1 HBA port > connections--the symptom stuck to isp0, even when its I/Os were > being attempted through the physical connection formerly used > (successfully) by isp1. This might be an indication of an issue with the Motherboard (MB)(more specifically issue with the PCIE slot -- Since the problem stays with the slot). Do you have another PCIE (x4 or higher) slot in the motherboard? if so, can you use that unsued slot to see if that solves the problem. OR alternatively, Do you have simllar MB's in your inventory or servers using the same MB's? if so, can you swap the MB's and see if the issues followes the MB? (meaning, does the issue occur in the swapped server) Hope this helps -Thanks Vijay From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 10:24:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04609BDEA20 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jedrzejczak.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8502AF46 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jedrzejczak.michal@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id k125so23722751wma.1 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 03:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6KXITVRjSL6PmGv4p935UXZ05ZjCzM/Lm2HAEtOEffU=; b=SbEVkEawmk5dVxX26Ln3A+r7XBP4av+Yf3kNwyUGsKvWZYdjoHfE2I9XkSeMpgX69v cCL2vGslgAjfiFrbuglimHi0oX72v572KqKvQU9NhOFAWuXN08oarxO7ECN1Y0WcSYr7 uReiprxk8cNenVPKRHPzRn+4I05DzkYd2JNjpPQmlS48XPf/mFaiaI/bQ51jcC3GYUmV 2o6LDSOjfKcg70gB7CFYZ4LRuTrM2E3uBloXSypbkIGwWB6eXwGMlroC409W/k9MMi4y nHfYub4PQrmKrCDmhibQeMkLBVxgUpbpl91rUYpvIEeV4hsfYlhVMWW9DuHnDBFGuyIt nS/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6KXITVRjSL6PmGv4p935UXZ05ZjCzM/Lm2HAEtOEffU=; b=G21LdhZF81hetUTsR+UCSbwJKE2JdhnLABfm/FzVI9Pqjz4aca/Ny+6k+FoZjuGbx1 I8CsmqTIjbbCPmJ0gJSdAo7v4Mof9Cc6q0mGBY01Qh50CRQjltvgLPXYxK9LMjxrrQUG iiHK40X8EKyVbx+H9TpDMItzBsk5cOFpq1QyXBfrt2SH++UUNb8m4RTGVcI+tJ8InNsh aN9O6ImoTUpaNb6cjP1aTLOVp2qiKuuKArYtPtnAdoVfstkNq7DpCB4YA57HovnjCdjO eSNTMntcLkoeXLVAwmqanO3QuPnUKmlxMONVeYkT+5Zg2g/mdOpodU/DDtFQdYsayJK6 N80w== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rmdj7V3xUC4ZU8gfNBVuudRzRBUhUigssUGpohSKLaHJNywqjJHSnuEPhIUaVZesEVSBlUr2q3bdHLM1Q== X-Received: by 10.28.224.8 with SMTP id x8mr14451597wmg.59.1475835877903; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 03:24:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.58.17 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 03:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiAu?= Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 12:24:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Removing unused network card. To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:24:40 -0000 Hello I would like know what impact on system have removing unused network card. That is good practice remove or disable (in BIOS) unused network cards on server ? Thanks and regards. Micha=C5=82 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 16:42:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1392CBED7E2 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from mail.robroygregg.com (173-13-147-189-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.147.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6D02BFD for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from funmax (funmax.d.net [192.168.16.3]) by mail.robroygregg.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e370d0b1; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 09:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 09:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Robroy Gregg X-X-Sender: robroy@funmax.d.net To: Vijay Rajah cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: isp(4) QLE2462 initiator failure with 10.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <0a7120b7-54d2-5afe-5e9a-3681e74d543e@rvijay.me> Message-ID: References: <0a7120b7-54d2-5afe-5e9a-3681e74d543e@rvijay.me> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:42:10 -0000 On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Vijay Rajah wrote: > On 10/06/2016 10:50 PM, Robroy Gregg wrote: >> * I've tried physically swapping the isp0 and isp1 HBA port >> connections--the symptom stuck to isp0, even when its I/Os were >> being attempted through the physical connection formerly used >> (successfully) by isp1. > > This might be an indication of an issue with the Motherboard (MB)(more > specifically issue with the PCIE slot -- Since the problem stays with the > slot). Thank you for replying Vijay! Yeah, though isp0 and isp1 are combined on a single card, in the same physical slot, I understand that they act like two separate devices at some level. > Do you have another PCIE (x4 or higher) slot in the motherboard? if so, > can you use that unsued slot to see if that solves the problem. Yes, there are one or two other empty slots to try. The trouble is, this event has happened only once so far, and we haven't been able to figure out what triggered it. So the new slot approach will be conclusive only if the problem happens again, after the slot's been changed. > OR alternatively, Do you have simllar MB's in your inventory or servers using > the same MB's? if so, can you swap the MB's and see if the issues followes > the MB? (meaning, does the issue occur in the swapped server) We do have a second computer that's identical to this one other than having less RAM, and we'll be bringing that one up soon. It'll be interesting to see if the problem happens there. I'm hoping that somebody familiar with isp(4)'s guts may be able to collect information about the card's bizarre state, and make a stab at what may have caused this. Sadly, I think I have to reboot the computer to enable hint.isp.X.debug, which will probably cause the problem to run away and hide indefinitely. I'd also love to know how many other FreeBSD users are having success with similar configurations. Do QLE2462s work flawlessly for other SAN users? It's ironic that people keep quiet both when hardware X works, and when they're not using hardware X at all. It's hard to judge how esoteric our configuration is for FreeBSD. > Hope this helps I really appreciate your reply Vijay; thank you again. Robroy Gregg Salinas, California From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 17:29:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5198FC040C2 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 17:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from mail.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [83.162.175.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.skysmurf.nl", Issuer "mail.skysmurf.nl" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9CFD2E4 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 17:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4]) by mail.skysmurf.nl (8.15.2/8.15.2) with SMTP id u97H91CE006294; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:09:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 19:09:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:09:01 +0200 From: Alphons van Werven To: Manish Jain Cc: "rwmaillists@googlemail.com" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Is it possible to port the old Logo saver to X ? Message-ID: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 17:29:18 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Manish Jain wrote: > Beastie is available only in text mode. Is there I can get Beastie in an= =20 > X session ? =20 Licensing issues aside, it should be possible but will require work. In essence, you'll need to write an xscreensaver hack(*) for it. Fonz Ad (*): Xscreensaver is a bundle of several distinct screensaver programs, which are called hacks in xscreensaver lingo. --=20 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! 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Message-Id: <20161007201425.699f131a0dce464a80673024@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:17:01 -0000 On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:09:01 +0200 Alphons van Werven wrote: > Manish Jain wrote: > > > Beastie is available only in text mode. Is there I can get Beastie > > in an X session ? > > Licensing issues aside, it should be possible but will require work. > In essence, you'll need to write an xscreensaver hack(*) for it. .. If I do SELECT program_name, port_path, cool_graduation FROM Freebsd_Available_Ports WHERE uses = 'screensaver' ORDER BY cool_graduation; I get more than one line ;) Personally xscreensaver is too heavy for me. I use xautolock to fire slock (both in ports and share the first position on the query). In my fluxbox startup file (similar on other window managers) I have: xautolock -time 1 -locker slock & Where 1 is 1 minute and slock blocks X until enter user password. You can execute slock directly %slock to lock X window. > Fonz > > Ad (*): Xscreensaver is a bundle of several distinct screensaver > programs, which are called hacks in xscreensaver lingo. > > -- > A.J. "Fonz" van Werven > mailsig: Help! 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charset="us-ascii" On a recently upgraded (10.3-RELEASE-p5 -> 11.0-RELEASE-p1) machine (amd64), I've noticed a barrage of 'esp_output: skip 20 hlen 24 ...' lines in log while there is traffic on an ipsec connection. Due to a change in sys/netipsec/xform_esp.c (DPRINTF on line 723), a log is generated with each packet in my case. This wasn't true in 10.3-p5, and it looks like perhaps that DPRINTF shouldn't be there? Both the client and the server are FreeBSD 11-p1 machines (both just upgraded). Any insight is much appreciated along with a pointer to how to turn it off (short of recompiling the kernel). Thanks a lot, Emre. P.S.: I am getting list digest, please cc me on your reply. --nextPart5374888.TS5mRHOzyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCAAGBQJX9/d8AAoJEI88/TwDdSTpiWcQAIjN1hVSp3eiY70bdC8F3nUH gQsnw00briX+kuV3ynJPQ221I3cCNwXwuE5xZNaqFnN3ADHrT6kkefdwWtOu3K7T EGkT/76cm3u4jW4Rkjx1KC9Wx95os0/y0MbEtKIMO6PdBQME59P5DfvivlCcsOsm NHIARHhSN6bulmm1RiM0CeGGfAp7+ExZpK4LI7MtlOUjBREcbrLmCzFyYD6Ynu3K vPYB06vSR/raShnyxXkgScVAtPY+FeImPiQsKqK4EPlZ+QDb7L9A5wMOqxghbTRH DD9s2PXeTKHUM1NCnSb8HLByS/3ebJ8OzsFT5H2IV0SP5kYFnM/Mv/8uIoUEdn2K oZRAmvgXl/PaU/9V/+6VEyACBKTzDMwYfjAjZmOrWM6ZXUazLKmNgge8jRfDfUw6 L9INRYXi/b/69jz6xMVfHbnOUCtFXngQBTmVqsJibqYYJVxFl83GrAKqx6o+WRuo 9Rogc2k6EnXpqQEOZeyc4IMfrqXV0vm66VhUmHcurRlCcTZ0Elq+Y7uM7BibFI0I yY0/h3V+FrvRUKDVko/mAjiak60JYhXntiz47aGVFHiNYhT7bOt4mbdLVOGJnryB dU9EnOHqewedO2tvzxr4b8B39SL5dTA7YQvyGB9DCfe8qTq3EdndE/7R2vGTcPbp EAlDLAsGirVbMdtdXd5V =0YMF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5374888.TS5mRHOzyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 20:45:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990A9BED85C for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 20:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from mail.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [83.162.175.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.skysmurf.nl", Issuer "mail.skysmurf.nl" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E3F4102 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 20:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4]) by mail.skysmurf.nl (8.15.2/8.15.2) with SMTP id u97KjQ8a016832; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:45:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 22:45:26 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:45:26 +0200 From: Alphons van Werven To: Eduardo Morras Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to port the old Logo saver to X ? Message-ID: <20161007204526.GA16737@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20161007201425.699f131a0dce464a80673024@yahoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161007201425.699f131a0dce464a80673024@yahoo.es> X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:45:30 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > Personally xscreensaver is too heavy for me. I use xautolock to fire > slock Nevertheless, one would still need to write a program for the X equivalent of the console screensaver that the OP wants. Fonz --=20 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJX+AlmAAoJEAfP7gJTaCe8YRkP/1pNoOOXP2JYfMzoYELgw4Cm 4WiDU+MCkMoumY4r1YOBx+VzlM7crlQNIYPohok6C63VAB1E2ipNHk23FthrECOP HgMqZRkJ66UhV1CmPl+zWIfPUaU4zGCTbuqJJCekzI7Bx2jQFeiBAVAvkUjNLWRy vygPyLwfpRuD6ZJk8am/ydCGS3otLzwGl3aYz7tf9PlrZ69XX4gabkEgG6N8LgCc xzMVpfUOwl+ByR2XqT8CNBfpGSr2N4K4zoi1MtRUT8s/PWfJzqDwsdj/xZlmJ+hr m0Iejsf+BLULW7Lml1QWlkUWEM6y2f/dYpFoVfGsIdL0Mj/da0ewZ1Tmvi72G8vj VNYjWUtpZSCHCYz/ovcZjsvrzAjieqcqUhsCcciT1CRJM39oxuKZ8aSeWjXYQDTg x19RqK5XXH2Hp8OZiWe2NNs0va1XlJL0l0QaTBgFVe8nzg4IWhnVMAHL+6JXQ+lk eY0h3ydn+dYv/WtSN71hSqKUyPWL6xZbfr0H3iw2O5vA/cS/7GMR7NqlGxyb0heQ rkixAC/oSS1Twzw+o2YYCJ3O4PfcCHVI3/6WUS0k05g4zvkv703KLLvNbCYl0ClK fwqzRF8J6OSNj1d+yxM78X9FMCfvs+4oPJLLW7icM0FFau1h8QAV5bz7GAb9ZbP3 /SSRw5lGHDmVsquhb4AU =6vgm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 20:54:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1CFBEDB4B for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 20:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E552187B for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-122-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.122.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D14C3CE7A; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:54:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u97KsJeC002550; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:54:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:54:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alphons van Werven Cc: Eduardo Morras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to port the old Logo saver to X ? Message-Id: <20161007225419.aae33b7c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20161007204526.GA16737@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20161007201425.699f131a0dce464a80673024@yahoo.es> <20161007204526.GA16737@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:54:29 -0000 On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 22:45:26 +0200, Alphons van Werven wrote: > Nevertheless, one would still need to write a program for the X equivalent > of the console screensaver that the OP wants. As far as I remember, xscreensaver also has a "Logo" screen saver. In its configuration dialog, just provide the Beastie image which you can even convert from /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon to an image format like PNG or JPG. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 7 21:27:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121CAC044E7 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 21:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3F3ED39 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 21:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-pa0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id qn10so23611124pac.2 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:27:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5RwXlDkUCotCnkSRYQuAYbD+eZX1z04dXTbkMX/JZc4=; b=JBYZNZMV5KnWvumcRNbCn/taL1dpalHpR2OXKJlL9uQOTI4zotJeAlN7xz1APyCSXJ LByfazB09h7M+qDGcTAQekkbLwSXWpWwdTmPVacpKLNQtlgv3e1myAty48oRkD2LIdtL EVVE74XxtrMCPZjfS3+Zl4vdnXryLu30z944M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5RwXlDkUCotCnkSRYQuAYbD+eZX1z04dXTbkMX/JZc4=; b=NShIhdzNZTAVXKOEN2c/ZRWqeuWqAbUHNw26BmTJfA1zDPk6gps9mInJIXvnlb5DjP Ro7df4mPxl5MwswanP70gKtT5B3W3Y9XSP1PQKgyYmYhSiAmWAiVZAn+xzj/XRsMaS/4 cdtVKJWEPoe6dxkb4H5hssYhmOhdUw32mVpmxY095V68JnK6GhysR46bYG+MFNseAzlU lZ/j7qVFiWI5RfhijCi4nUulzWNrZ1mNDB4iclsxtkigM7D4JjyshQbn0Lex5BqsTnJU WyJ1tkef+drqZjaN+bLVEdG2FHYmP28aTKc60OPdad07L9gdV+ahVzyNoeg6ooi++Dae os6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rlz8lgjdyzQPGLWEHikMmDG9rGL9PWZ8bvBqJK8UuHm/mwqEFP9KDk/vpzu4dCeKg== X-Received: by 10.67.15.1 with SMTP id fk1mr28286193pad.127.1475875654977; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Papi ([187.113.105.99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e4sm33282158pas.21.2016.10.07.14.27.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 18:27:57 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CPUTYPE question (yet again..) Message-ID: <20161007182757.18fbe511@Papi> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 21:27:36 -0000 Hi; Rephrasing a previous question. I have two phisical hosts with FreeBSD VMs in each. I want to be able to run these VMs on either host. Host #1 has detected CPUTYPE as core-avx-i Host #2 has detected CPUTYPE as corei7-avx Which CPUTYPE should I set to make buildworld, ran on a central/third location, that would allow any of these VMs tu run without problem on either host? OBS-cc,gcc or clang can't be allowed to detect/guess the CPUTYPE. Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 13:40:59 -0700 Message-ID: <09b001d220db$1d8f6870$58ae3950$@matchps.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdIg2u3ozAzcbxkET6aw4lVcv9v02A== Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: 1205330 mturgeon@matchps.com X-MT-ID: 93917F6E6AF3AC2F7DACB9763A88D2423D3780F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:06:01 -0000 Hello, We are in the process of building a FreeBSD Support team for a couple of clients and would like to learn how we join your organization and become listed here? Please advise. Thanks, Mark A. Turgeon SVP Business Development MatchPoint Solutions Mobile: 925-209-3373 mturgeon@matchps.com www.matchps.com Business Made Simple! cid:image001.png@01CDF59C.4886F5C0 www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-turgeon/0/318/941 mbe From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 06:30:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB01C052A7 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 06:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from preston@drugdangers.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88876F0D for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 06:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from preston@drugdangers.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id m72so79059715oik.3 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drugdangers-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jgitncxrQRUwPHBZPNiKtf1/agIaf721JiIOF9MHuHg=; b=nBDkoUQYXNoo892W5NQlBsjaJhoDWQbzrQnDaZ+vUUzdzFIhrssFY0nOPYWIYtmC6p itH3gWVxn2WquB/b5T4G8oPiRfS35FnCl3rQ06hmCSO6n9CMoqptsNGipNy05DY2eU8x 1vmMCZE3Ks7+ggc5nfV/uhwRaRPgp/sJx0R9///f03/1rAHWp80kOgrehcR+Ya+N3Ep3 F7wdoWy6Hc4BlmlmMAPDhAjR2ZwqA9jsOnZoy90cHR+HMSJrpWStUkaORRFGzrFIXvBQ T60LbblW9yiMSRRzgk900JgbpiJctyCv8W66S48O9qY5UX5fkpcgb0hzZXF8bLt6kzS6 EYAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jgitncxrQRUwPHBZPNiKtf1/agIaf721JiIOF9MHuHg=; b=VRMKwDe1h4RnqspsDcf1R08Mzmj1Fri5iygWJq0SX1hc039u+ORYmwCrOgGx2OCNG2 woyQYEC9G3qjvgOlsaopY+MU1m8viJa0+gBgwI4eSMDid757pVWdiqw0iNyZI2LjEDBD Uz5Xy3rhCUIETXvmd2Ig+Y17K4Mn+Ufq+KDZfpdSs6qWW53AdfmD4taSaQJEnvvaldbR TlFlEFGXiKh3nSfzLQGz2N4JjuKG2mx8qpKL+FMpUyupljn4hP+j/bAZaYvZNNdl2lN3 RgmgxMSMi+4XHBkgmO2qrTuIbVYVLLtx7NUXI/dq3tE02AqQYwUNZg4nOmt+vczlCQFo l4NQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rk/CGcsQSDoyJUKjfb8h6/8PuFsBJVkb2r1W5Mwu57iKlizikEDFkvmtIrUiW3s/dR90+xdwBHKMtn/2w== X-Received: by 10.157.58.35 with SMTP id j32mr3193363otc.166.1475908240494; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:30:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.49.105 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 23:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Rebecca Preston Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 23:30:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Freebsd Project Drug Awareness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 06:30:41 -0000 Hello, My name is Rebecca Preston, and I represent the Community Advocacy team here at DrugDangers.com . I found the Freebsd Project website while browsing through some health-related websites and have to say I was extremely impressed with the many great resources your site displays! Drug Dangers was developed to educate the public and lend a hand to people who have been affected by defective drugs and medical devices. Our goal at Drug Dangers is to keep the public educated and informed of all defective medical devices and dangerous medications that are currently available on the market today. Pharmaceutical companies are trusted to put safe products on the shelves, yet thousands of people lose their lives each year due to prescription medications with adverse side effects. By spreading awareness, we believe we can lower this statistic by decreasing the number of recalls, saving more lives of those who have been affected. Will you please take a moment to review our website and consider mentioning it on your resources page found at http://freebsd.mirror.solnet.ch/fr/gallery/cgallery.html? I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks again for your time, Rebecca Preston Community Advocacy Drug Dangers From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 07:27:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9C4C050E2 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 07:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80753C28 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 07:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:10190] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 50/6A-26444-3DF98F75; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 07:27:15 +0000 Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 07:26:45 +0000 Message-ID: <50.6A.26444.3DF98F75@dnvrco-omsmta03> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Olaoluwa Omokanwaiye Subject: Re: Hi, a dual booting and printing question References: <90FD08FD-FE91-4C6C-943C-0B58B072AE29@me.com> <20161005184752.2f7784a3@KoggyBSD.org> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 07:27:22 -0000 > Thanks Thomas, > Your advise is really appreciated. > Permit me to continue to ask for help as needed. > I have FreeBSD some 190GB of disk space but it used just a few during installation now I have extra space, is there a way I can extend the disk space so FreeBSD can occupy all or would you suggest I experiment installing another > BSD type like NetBSD to occupy the space. I will definitely need help with installing a third OS so it does not complicate matters. > As regards printing , oh yes it's HP printer, pls tell me there's a solution and kindly share. > Yeah I am reading the hand book but you know there are somethings they don't just talk about like here. > Hope to hear from you more and learn from you > Ola I have never resized a partition with data, am not sure how you can shrink a BSD partition. I see there is a growfs but don't know about shrinking a file system. I would have a better idea if I could see your partition table, like "gpart show ada0" or whatever. Did you say you had Ubuntu installed? How is printing under Ubuntu? I was able to print using a file from print/foo2zjs from NetBSD pkgsrc, might also work with the FreeBSD port. In NetBSD, I couldn't build the package but was able to extract the necessary file. I used cups but am not sure if hplip had anything to do with my limited success. I was unsuccessful with fax and scan. Posting to the FreeBSD list is better than emailing to me alone because others might be able to help. 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Hi Poly, For a moment, I thought this was the solution. But then the xscreensaver=20 (5.35) port has no LOGO/DAEMON in 'make config'. Thanks Manish From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 13:22:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667D3C0558C for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com (mail-qk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3316A358 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id n189so64797796qke.0 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 06:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XEjP25APrumSY3L4veY2rj51bH3d29v6q2B6F1UN0Do=; b=uLbhjZe2sHXebsom+glbMSR55QqmSPeDx7/KRfWdBBX8LTDJ+BmlSFt936NLXVfdfw mK9lgcEC2of8yGeTMECYRJYOWPffoq9raFd8YoBLu8VLgeKKu/syaVGrJiOBvFrZi16C eunY+h2Z8fJlAlB/d+Ar5g+awfs7hPEj3GvJVpieTtlF1p9/1JtpaplWDRH77dpfSi3F ELj4ZaO9lniavbgPZ2BW0BQ3Lhkb3HQJwWhTMTPEdrPxw5womT/Xobn8w/gpdZs3vQVc 9KS7HOuAEO3nzR5ToPORlbS/1ZjulFkfFZmO8uRhx2Rf3aKtlbp2SP/YDZYniIv4vIXk HoPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XEjP25APrumSY3L4veY2rj51bH3d29v6q2B6F1UN0Do=; b=ZT5PqdRP8K/dEWiKWQnCgiIGJA2tecx8Xnqh+rZ/LJXKePv7PucxQcM7l39TevwSv7 6S92vi8doj1F2M3OtdTMmbiduRPsfEmcxQpWXpURCAZGujqQBG2OFD08gk86Lfkg+5r8 GvQpdLErJv1WpNzmD8Q0MXjkcEdYybhdrtiX8VYlu5siJQwueGITfZ8/uJrG1ywnIn6n icWYnMbtmWC7bv8z7lHqA/Nao3o3K5dGqxtm2u3Tdjux1esn/YNRTlJl8CnstawYzeCs r5ARxjeboK4HVR+tJEu396AzulZj3LjIqRROM/pE/vPM5LRyeJt/WqM2vXpQ8GFoUTrA /5eQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnWFuL1acK0pIfKMivqrNE/BgMFJxydKMsSQGlt3uOmHJOh6e7VCuo8S6mv+ACaulyPU/eaMAR2Kaojbw== X-Received: by 10.55.8.138 with SMTP id 132mr25651188qki.109.1475932937202; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.128.168 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 06:22:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 09:22:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Freebsd Project Drug Awareness To: Rebecca Preston Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 13:22:18 -0000 Are you high on FreeLSD? Or is the hallucination a side effect of an antidepressant? Perhaps you should start by laying off a bit on the dangerous drugs yourself, I mean if you were so impressed with the wealth of drug realated information here. On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Rebecca Preston wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Rebecca Preston, and I represent the Community Advocacy team > here at DrugDangers.com . I found the > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 15:00:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1449AC05EF7 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x234.google.com (mail-lf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89D7F122 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 15:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romapera15@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id l131so59858271lfl.2 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:00:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L6yx4b9XZKvwmGLaaTLzsg1T2xJO3Uej9aoX2QUovbc=; b=bHqYbsaK2VtPRtdWQJ0ybLpW0K4Zo1KXUvnnwgVJyCDnr4yC5SLZtKNPPUEIbG2Xar MgB7IIzRZLYZgrlpb2rDKglGZds3kxqz3zUr8dBY3xO1OZMTMhjBOtRNJ9sPJQj7wdyr fJWb5eAqE6sGZq70NrTE54v/iH2DyPCi5q0+A3LfN89wvkuAJ3Z4aSaMiSKv8QxW8QAM PEiWH7RNtYqweQl3XtU6jvQruirsnfifRvtGgVCDQw/PK/3uc6vfVxlkiq5JEbe1KAxD gC6ApP7cA1cwL53afOizlJBI9fEiJ+3qS4kF/xhWQXfKwWOsgSBZGOBHl29gomqNwyB6 z0NA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L6yx4b9XZKvwmGLaaTLzsg1T2xJO3Uej9aoX2QUovbc=; b=hgnmbW5WZCcP7/H7dEHNrGXZOjDVyjtK1iWdncVOuNHQcSQUznoDsTp8g0TJDKjMf8 6yavAHaNIOBiYOO89DZqMF9kP1i8NhWZ+BOvOWeFMcDXmVj2IaXcNLRTQ6yyKi2PP1YE u3ya5Hh1MKkWA3XHFbIvHwkJJQTZIci15G2jSPTc3YrumIXCEIhYR1Fo18Ef928mMh4Y NHtCRueatP0yVZeOoeieNAkl0FeBMWf71/CWrtJ5K0nOiEINflTXvsMjyOm0iuSpEf7P Q+Mznqc2fe4IPMXqFQ5Znf7tAEjLEGqQrW9bYKg30f38wA9C47dslW5srDVZiGE+FYn8 +tJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmClqFbFR7SvHQVlvazW2OKidyLfadaVpxlN4aew18fq5UVmXMJeAcaO8xuhAOpzvK7pqQHP2xMPD5htw== X-Received: by 10.46.1.209 with SMTP id f78mr10413333lji.38.1475938826822; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.158.4 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 08:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?fran=C3=A7ai_s?= Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 12:00:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] Employers that are registered in freebsd questions mailing list, is possible to undo all the damages that I caused against me posting trolls topics? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 15:00:30 -0000 This message is mainly for all employers that are not registered in FreeBSD Forums: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/57961/ I used different nicks in various forums and mailing lists. For example, in FreeBSD Forums I used the followings nicks: decret, assembler... apple: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/documentation-translation-help.44595/ In ReactOS Forums, I used clark_hobby: https://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D9&t=3D13617 I used also fran=C3=A7ais, monsieur, Jorge Monsieur: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D144751531109283&w=3D2 https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-misc&m=3D144870062804855&w=3D2 https://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D9&t=3D13696#p112321 http://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=3D32&t=3D2877 Probably I will to give the my curriculum vitae to employers that they are registered in FreeBSD Forums. What are the damages that I caused against me posting trolls topics? Is possible to undo this damages that I caused against me posting trolls topics? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 18:26:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01885C06F20 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 18:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22e.google.com (mail-qt0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD98262D for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 18:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id q7so33895533qtq.1 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OBWWYwLqgmMzyMJkM5uln0W9WT+ewCsJjxUzz8i2bb4=; b=DxhfeXV4tEfp1g9qUKrEot1IgIa5wdwKWKXyLpn5ZosWNCUUGzpRQHjMmlhk0aT1CL 96mLsdfDHfvZ8m1fWudKtZKb8w24hmeJYGI0pbcb2FxquqSraNhM+0wdwPm+Wv2++kx/ iJyhLabRGW1LBKpLdIV3/PohX/qccyOGLR1gzYYEOylLVBbH+bRIV0Cw8o4aT/zDiyta RLAzV1cct+pkPOSG3ekaf6vCDujzZOsc4n8xoOq3201F4Jn3IWDVCDUg8COFu0q2pqlt 823FXlKtHXlT8IbPNa63MBu99ZZxIn2iTCyf+p7JZk0suPr7ilCcwwRExKzFSbwmp2NY ewHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OBWWYwLqgmMzyMJkM5uln0W9WT+ewCsJjxUzz8i2bb4=; b=KSnBZ70/f4oAXKLjrmYrTqxsEG7p0+bU5HtzWDan8rsKnY7UzhjN59gCvZPCLmHQSy tUSci6/adjRbnRuGRnBo25ldc0uZK3bEiKHDnHXETmKrGi/P+qgxSIP9BWHglm2hzkaw 5nkVVAVeeWiQlR0ogq9swjZ0OF+h72HkY7LyyRllTyHcKi9UUZKD7vUAklC8/pWg/UBG y2zaJzPFLemlcZ6otqnpMggCHUV8g7CHyOSPCSyxxiI4AeMRKIZZ1c8sXwgs7MyBH32i k/GcAhSeQJ+P2fXPr74AfhD2tHKvHWlcFZ+nc/zzRb/q88evAA8YBr9Z2PFJubO9STw5 etbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmvqIbVamXVKukVAOgtAFKUmUycn9UojspHH8QREvTl/EMwtSwuaY6YeBLg7USIzD8VTRaUbvrxOTYw6Q== X-Received: by 10.237.58.232 with SMTP id o95mr25181084qte.33.1475949661543; Sat, 08 Oct 2016 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.40.189 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Moellering Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 14:01:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Port search with multiple words (Slightly OT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 18:26:35 -0000 I am trying to look through freshports for ports/packages but I want to use multiple search terms, i.e. looking for a GUI frontend to a MySQL database, I want to look for both GUI and Database or GUI and MySQL. However, I can find no way to do this. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 8 18:38:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50ACC0627C for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 18:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from mail.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [83.162.175.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.skysmurf.nl", Issuer "mail.skysmurf.nl" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A7F3BBE for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 18:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4]) by mail.skysmurf.nl (8.15.2/8.15.2) with SMTP id u98IcfKb039372; Sat, 8 Oct 2016 20:38:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 08 Oct 2016 20:38:41 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 20:38:41 +0200 From: Alphons van Werven To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it possible to port the old Logo saver to X ? Message-ID: <20161008183841.GA39307@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <20161007170901.GA6238@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20161007201425.699f131a0dce464a80673024@yahoo.es> <20161007204526.GA16737@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20161007225419.aae33b7c.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161007225419.aae33b7c.freebsd@edvax.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 18:38:53 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > As far as I remember, xscreensaver also has a "Logo" screen saver. > In its configuration dialog, just provide the Beastie image which > you can even convert from /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon to an > image format like PNG or JPG. That's what I thought too, but I can't seem to find it. Perhaps it has been removed. Fonz --=20 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! 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