From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 00:20:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF834C57EDC for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85C007ED for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id c21so171604011ioj.1 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:20:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+xJ4xTGhcYXMUmr2UND6trT/K9jGH0BsRvrLCe1IxmE=; b=RfO9YSHrkLy4RMaSQX6CYmMN36kSyvl0qrFYPSxly6j+JcXBk6x1QqIZW1Ka5r0Isp l7IeGv8kb0rNPwKlAU98PdHjhS5A7h/tuboJ776eXyYZBMiNkM8l1up6tkg3xeT3yNcI SxWprnpzi59UcZHGpFi4SrtG2d+x9MG5Epwl8yoj2FiH7aFNGm9A2MQeS0gIBmx5AhhX uTg1g0CvSsNiJ1rNJ1Q8OJPdACUce24SeUCzABUIH4wi23QILRjEw+zqw5s4rbxcJEIK DWt4oqoyU2jzAzKG41AJrVM9UIahWd4tjcn+yzrq7VoYlVtJFmfv8c+JMZS96frbgwWW I+Qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+xJ4xTGhcYXMUmr2UND6trT/K9jGH0BsRvrLCe1IxmE=; b=ZSsXXvV0aKbpxSsKi7ak465o1D0fqz0grILHDMOEQ5z2TACkDrsozvZDpz6nwUM2I9 wX1pWMSKsEsGv6S16WGO7RdW2Sy0yjQujQsebozQ/5o/alPClrn68VyxpXERAEe0EAS3 SAYN9zF//BtN/LRhqm6xXERXP/h97yV8QtF6I09DH1ZjJ4Cs9uEpdIOnhLVrCCEybKHq 5nPza9QMOnzd0+O42yZsE4qgdVdzgMc28XwhBIPh0eAz9jRwNDiDf2NAn966gSAeKKCH gd/z6dJzsImiEcccf01OZGSAbYcx12Oa2f8diu4rD465hpdTuRfETdrmKAlOmVcgn8bN GryA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01+e7v7uN8EZowMm/MNHNuUGHz9lWcJ5PYehl2Q3W02NQ3cmNjJVtUGdDF+YJKryUIR1EKk90YirIv2gQ== X-Received: by 10.107.175.80 with SMTP id y77mr11868755ioe.12.1480206018548; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:20:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.178.21 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161126150144.GA65709@becker.bs.l> References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> <20161126033259.GA57873@becker.bs.l> <20161126150144.GA65709@becker.bs.l> From: "Jack L." Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:19:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:20:19 -0000 On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > On Friday, 25. Nov 2016, 20:06:55 -0800, Jack L. wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Bertram Scharpf < > lists@bertram-scharpf.de> > > wrote: > > > > > On Friday, 25. Nov 2016, 18:31:24 -0800, Jack L. wrote: > > > > >> > I have an old single core AMD Turion ML-37 laptop that has > nothing > > > > >> > installed. When I boot it up, the moment it displays login:, it > hangs > > > > >> > until i press some random keys. At shutdown, it will hang until > I > > > > >> > press keys and it will not move onto the next line of shutdown > until > > > > >> > I keep pressing keys. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > If I cat /dev/random > ./dev/null while using the laptop, it > works > > > > >> > fine but when nothing is happening, the laptop hangs. Any > ideas? It's > > > > >> > running 11.0-STABLE > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas on why the laptop would have that behavior in 11? It > didn't hang > > > > > at all in 10.3-STABLE > > > > > > > > > I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at > > > > install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long as > I > > > > continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it will > > > > respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it > works > > > > perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? > > > > > > I'm convinced this behaviour it worth being analysed. > > > > > > Can you gain any knowlegde by calling cat through truss? > > > > How should I run that? > > Sorry, that was probably too fast. > > You could run one of those: > > # truss cat /dev/random >/dev/null > # truss dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null bs=512 count=3 > > But they will show just a series of read-write calls until a > read will hang. The detain presumably occurs in the random > device. That's kernel stuff. Does anybody have a hint how to > debug that without influencing the behaviour in question? > So truss cat /dev/random >/dev/null will keep going and going and going and going truss dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null bs=512 count=3 sits there and hangs with no activity until i hit a key, then the dd happens. > Bertram > > > -- > Bertram Scharpf > Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany > http://www.bertram-scharpf.de > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 03:16:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC25C58F65 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63DB917D1 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id c184so34249372wmd.0 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:16:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BPmMsd5dXMZuy2zHRlbDzhOnxCrHRMdqOjfh9BOUXq8=; b=ALF/hEKo1NZd8pyJv0CLsrZ6yqW0INaPTwBjJyP7gNjKLcP77Asz32HjIVRQdZMYQS FkFrOSjaQWhuMI9gOyqFfIBGxK4xaZ44VrTGEOHwMtuXi76fR1gjs7WsT4w5XTdhv3Zl BQ4wFD5amconGCiDOMUDr8F0ZmVHT0p+k1CAm6z3wE6d++UnDJo4FghLyCMLVQdtmvoI dvS+viA2y0g3iXDH35MFce78R224YJa+KMeY8ZVp5VZtVSWRtfx7ILCncru+A5z2g228 fd5nZ9FRgveL/enBQKS9fmQ/2Oc1VeWzHBply+016X2CY+MY4S0R1SpSegJGm6wBmuyU mpQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BPmMsd5dXMZuy2zHRlbDzhOnxCrHRMdqOjfh9BOUXq8=; b=hchQevuypPG4uTS7hpLSg0t6Ynz5fIbjWRa4ZPMkFQut5GhP9/te4kfUMLMuT9XMeA Aub0ULrrB6OEd50wfvwPkFrb100I+0gHk9HA1VFzBo81rIwVURrvsaaJVaLRSJCb1JW4 AEyxsaNIyznqmj7XBnpJWCng7/EjfIv6uOqaZyHTp8Df6axJEmtLfxw5VCUREenxco5/ bk8E1HDBp/NwC8RpPR+KCV7uIQYydC/7Eha4+Z3J3CiUsl57IIiqu0fjiO9R90t+Nq7k vuL7MrY9f0hxJIkCwQaCDDTPmNufVp4B+skokbtfLJQQdRTLJtrZMpNhG/H2JAJygYDI qC+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02TtqublDqAbpTVxoTC6SyDEsH5GYHdolSs/2RH7xDwhmYK0ZDQCRUx10519s/M8u/AKNbyuFysImcrag== X-Received: by 10.28.173.4 with SMTP id w4mr12771013wme.70.1480216590435; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:16:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.179.119 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:16:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Adam Vande More Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 21:16:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: "Jack L." Cc: RW , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:16:32 -0000 On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Jack L. wrote: > >> > >> I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at > install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long as I > continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it will > respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it works > perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? Most likely due to something like power, acpi, interrupts, etc. First thing I would do is reset the BIOS to defaults. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 03:21:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B1EC5619F for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw70@yandex.com) Received: from forward5m.cmail.yandex.net (forward5m.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:b030::1c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8C6C19CF for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw70@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (smtp1j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::ab]) by forward5m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1CB3A20F63 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:20:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 031BD3C806D6 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:20:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id JoOsVBPbH5-Km80TAd2; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:20:48 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1480216848; bh=wTV8fNEgb1NL/WKccmSKG8w2DeZFrkErDOnITQ8JVMU=; h=To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date; b=mhkj5RFV/JDTu64K+V7KI6KEe3b9qRL/MCPod/CfvaPq3y6pWlmKd3mG67v4RXfR6 N/EwtUVfI/irB9jxh2cvmjmbgTugK+8ary7bbK/bbI9R6YnVvyHS/9l0Qkpu/94ESK ix6P+S9yUsQfFFWEvXm5PTBExxIqPNvccudkdfQU= Authentication-Results: smtp1j.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Rolf Nielsen Subject: mkvtoolnix fails to link Message-ID: <2555ea22-61a1-169e-ef2d-cc37888393fa@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 04:20:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:21:03 -0000 I've been unable to update mkvtoolnix since 9.3.1. I had the exact same problem updating from 9.2.? to 9.3, but that "magically" sorted itself when I upgraded the system from 10 to 11 and in the process wiped all ports and installed fresh. This leads me to believe it's something with the options I've set in one of the dependencies, rather than with mkvtoolnix itself. Now boost-libs got updated, and as a result my installation of mkvtoolnix fails to run because of missing dependencies. I resolved this by installing the precompiled package, and it seems to be working just fine, but that one also pulls in a bunch of qt5 stuff, which I do not want. I only ever use mkvtoolnix from a shell. However, I did try to build it with default port options, i.e. with the gui enabled, and that failed with the exact same message. I've also tried to rebuild all the dependencies (as listed by pkg info -d mkvtoolnix) with their default options, to no avail. The last few lines of the make output are as follows c++ -L/usr/local/lib -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib -Llib/avilib-0.6.10 -Llib/librmff -Lsrc/common -o src/mkvmerge src/merge/mkvmerge.o -Lsrc/merge -lmtxmerge -Lsrc/input -lmtxinput -Lsrc/output -lmtxoutput -Lsrc/merge -lmtxmerge -lmtxcommon -lmagic -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lmatroska -L/usr/local/lib -lebml -lz -lpugixml -lintl -lboost_regex -lboost_filesystem -lboost_system -lavi -lrmff -Lsrc/mpegparser -lmpegparser -lFLAC -logg -lm -lvorbis -logg src/common/libmtxcommon.a(ebml_chapters_converter.o): In function `mtx::xml::ebml_chapters_converter_c::fix_xml(std::__1::shared_ptr&) const': src/common/xml/ebml_chapters_converter.cpp:(.text+0xc15): undefined reference to `_ZN4pugi14xpath_node_setaSEOS0_' src/common/xml/ebml_chapters_converter.cpp:(.text+0xc98): undefined reference to `_ZN4pugi14xpath_node_setaSEOS0_' c++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/mkvtoolnix *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/multimedia/mkvtoolnix -- Vänligen / Sincerely, Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 03:37:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E43C56AB9 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7451F615 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.2.200]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.145]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcOxi-1cbxsw2rn4-00jqod for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 04:24:36 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cAq4x-000JJ1-Pd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 04:24:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 04:24:35 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <20161127032435.GA74135@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OeDvFLW4566Blky7qkPKfXtt8aurd2rRU4u/Z22MrH7FZffNMqK FnVBjg5x22q5/rOE6nXxOWl9llQI0fhhkPZnh7q7IxMRLW7G8mDSZu65oHGIgR5ih+DHiNj kJhrIqFUSUn1as9sWXA1ci0HN0jF163pdDRKMgBwEx5i0TP4NVjptEwKC0mp0QY3NELqFWH nYqO1q3fRsWib3pwymgOg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:53j1sY3CX8M=:PSIXVEmUCyXIgEmrF4Cv8t Srk7iIPHyAK6xT+6KFjQ+NgLqSNhbNqMi5+UhWXI2kVJYF7kJFNLOb0NOUw003y6vClZgkY+6 LjPnvs4VNe0kZZPyzlXQfMK1kcqGIJrmk01lywQ4Xi9tINSuKvCrIQpTWIyLIXw7w9Ar/bIgt B5mRYMQ4I6SF4jGGi2XajKWebDZ1t7gfERpkXi/kKV9dBFp+EyTxukVCI8KFpl3n4Fuoj7Nzu 4jwY5C0uPO/hNOUkHGeeqgroRiBC50NGto0ZYpl17D2Y9s2101RrInyrIy6uNZDKfvEY3S+V4 lwBWwDKWGH7LspmslTKJKg/aoWzwvdvTGVInDi9QDVg/i+WOfE4e2+AhDUi+yg3QyNuQdESLm ieWsB3iFdI2ralAKweMUno2x8tQW1ixuL0K2/y9WXqwk32CfLD89MVQvFavCOEI2ggAgYIffn 3qVbEmvgYd6kXYVWegB4GN28H+r2SzXousEMJZUqt35IxMJcfMh8oqErPHfdKrbj2JyjoKlhX ag6WtjEqsNQTHdB1I4Hd9IGH3kCipuLguhSh/3Qu0I4iCkavl0k+tQ8Sw/bsxyhS04MEodgYC 6teVHZugMwocb/KayDIjOFcqVHmRRmjrMHyFgg2OWX/d4f4neTtv0lpmrjR3X4UvF7xX8h3Dr DQCz5YhfYSVpnkrC7EN0yhc7z5flDpc2+EHtuauRWaBTo45xwdBX9hYTIzb5JioX033Q= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:37:46 -0000 On Saturday, 26. Nov 2016, 21:16:29 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Jack L. wrote: > > > >> > > >> I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at > > install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long as I > > continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it will > > respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it works > > perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? > > > Most likely due to something like power, acpi, interrupts, etc. First > thing I would do is reset the BIOS to defaults. Sorry that I ask. How does one do that what you mean? Before the boot? Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 05:56:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2D7C58B1F for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 05:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@mailer.ge) Received: from srv1.mailer.ge (srv1.mailer.ge [46.101.206.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78C211B4E for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 05:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@mailer.ge) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailer.ge; s=mail; h=List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type:MIME-Version:To:Reply-To:From:Subject:Date:Message-ID; bh=hxh2ftv8iVrDPPo1xs9DlBf0elyuoYvn3FuNjGknAi4=; 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Nov 2016, 21:16:29 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Jack L. wrote: >> >>>>> I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at >>> install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long as I >>> continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it will >>> respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it works >>> perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? >> >> Most likely due to something like power, acpi, interrupts, etc. First >> thing I would do is reset the BIOS to defaults. > Sorry that I ask. How does one do that what you mean? Before > the boot? > > Bertram > Boot into BIOS then choose "factory defaults" or something like it. 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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 22:14:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: Adam Vande More Cc: RW , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:15:39 -0000 On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Jack L. wrote: > >> >> >> >> I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at >> install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long as I >> continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it will >> respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it works >> perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? > > > Most likely due to something like power, acpi, interrupts, etc. First > thing I would do is reset the BIOS to defaults. > It's a gateway laptop, whatever is set is already the default since 99% of the options aren't user configurable. Changing the boot order and turn on/off auto dim are about the only options available. There isn't a reset to default option either since it's an old laptop. > > > -- > Adam > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 07:24:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B27FC58592 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wj0-x22c.google.com (mail-wj0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 037B63C8 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wj0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id xy5so90183694wjc.0 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 23:24:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=d+6RNPqEOs1YGkoSkwpg7KaUxMurE9Z6elC2DR3eIpc=; b=pcUARsZstHvYXdt9Bl3IPr/8akIwH4U9LzOf+C1nIWLW8tRm//oUYnBcflaae5N1L7 rS1uNF5zniI2m2+fJB3smesSg7nJLCgJo+S/7iShDIWtUzGO7uALWsA0ihpEKIv7IZcy UGmcJ9YhjcJNQINVWfafwRbpJpW0oSv+ryp3SQ1d3zooldGUW7LSIJ3CUB3FDpNLa433 8P3MtChMYuVcPcDN5Q5TKfW50DpbFTGBY7f01EfY2pja75NHS6K/o8/P1RRtcLZ2nzHd 5JIJuVvzghlHwyZ2lx/HtTX5D4Y1HByPQel1hW9ZKRBS2QerLGHNXiXywXH3ztBoNvF6 7BRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=d+6RNPqEOs1YGkoSkwpg7KaUxMurE9Z6elC2DR3eIpc=; b=MUE53JzQGNBzBpZI6ImOUoiNqeU2uPwAdYCsJ9j8ULp8Of5SKNtNgcON5sVLV2CbET eOy2S3eXNGiVCDi4U9zCn+lXn+4cAtHz/+0rPoSZwbRg//iqETzjUbdzCgB0H5g08+ng 4M+XfVWGu09ex7PJfeCpY9omT1/LcRZ/1D1WjuPR3D1E0zL6Ls5GyrPatezjswX/CnlL wI6oz44T5Ukw0pegVmHq5fvD5OU/aU5v1OsMpCKVRQX+gHLLzroBbmk7gaincNg7LBiD 3BwE2yo2VwrvZLjeqigSR7nxxEyRGdxpMMExZ6wqMsaN4fRZYFXOJgkfR3S4b9TCiChQ Wzmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC0247JRbF4i/vdTP0sEyZ2p/0+d7aRTvYJgWhOlrea0gwS9Gj8YZjoKrIhqZcpTsUjvwKM9MtXzhv0+4SA== X-Received: by 10.194.86.165 with SMTP id q5mr13645770wjz.178.1480231473170; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 23:24:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.44.69 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Nov 2016 23:23:52 -0800 (PST) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:23:52 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Dealing with (multiple) pkgs with security vulnerabilities. To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:24:35 -0000 Hi, Part of my security run output contains a long list of packages with vulnerabilities. 'pkg audit -F' returns a listing of these pkgs with enough details, but pkg update && pkg upgrade returns nothing so I suppose there is a better way to deal with these. I know I can manually do 'make -C /path/to/port/directory clean reinstall clean', but that is so manual and tirng even just for 10 pkgs to be updated. What is the easiest way of doing a batch update for all the listed pkgs? * Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: Database fetched: Fri Nov 25 04:06:20 EAT 2016* ipsec-tools-0.7.2 python27-2.7.10 libgcrypt-1.6.3 libXi-1.7.4_1,1 libXv-1.0.10_3,1 libXfixes-5.0.1_3 jasper-1.900.1_14 sqlite3-3.8.10.2 libxslt-1.1.28_7 gnutls-3.3.16 tiff-4.0.4 libidn-1.31 png-1.6.17_1 ffmpeg-2.7.2,1 isc-dhcp42-server-4.2.8_1 libXrandr-1.4.2_3 sudo-1.8.14p3 libXtst-1.2.2_3 libotr-4.1.0_1 p5-PathTools-3.4700_1 neon28-0.28.2_1 openslp-1.2.1_5 libxml2-2.9.2_3 expat-2.1.0_2 perl5-5.20.2_5 libssh2-1.4.3_5,2 nss-3.19.2 pcre-8.37_2 libX11-1.6.2_3,1 libtasn1-4.5_1 libvpx-1.4.0 graphite2-1.2.4 libXvMC-1.0.9 libXrender-0.9.8_3 ruby-2.1.6,1 unzip-6.0_6 curl-7.43.0_2 nspr-4.10.8_1 gdk-pixbuf2-2.31.2_2 libvncserver-0.9.9_11 wget-1.16.3 mailman-with-htdig-2.1.14 * -- End of security output -- * -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 07:31:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1035DC587C2 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E41F3844 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:14522] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 3E/0D-19237-9CB8A385; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:20 +0000 Message-ID: <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.6:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:24 -0000 > On Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:15:51 CET, Warren Block > wrote: > ... > > It has been so far, often with the justification that this is what we have > > always done. I am of the opinion that eventually the mailing lists will > > require subscription or become irrelevant. Times have changed from twenty > > years ago, and will continue to change. > -1 > for mailing-list are/become irrelevant and should be substituted by fancy, > colorfull, browser requesting forums > matthias -1 here, my experience with forums is always unfavorable, messages on a specific topic are practically impossible to find. Besides, mailing lists work even without a graphical interface on the user's end. User might have not yet built the graphical interface, or the graphical interface might have crashed. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 08:02:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444CBC56177 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4A717D2 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1480233561; bh=mtayNBOtGsAAk+HGjAc8XYyPuVNpK+5/GwhmWSjO2OU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=AIuSadmqA+IpHD+FaMll//utjoKnRgIJRhvrSqtGBKeneOQjeTAeqgdWGN2N5cZeMFreqaseskRLMBWqiBbw+D/+8TWNZ/QA0b0IMJrf2xLOhgQ1zpJ7S7+TRvm2TWTZV6vk0UdaufFWniuxFMW9LertoRXHF9eIx/46YsPi6js3kOhHOLdq/gc3iWCksljPjxzmwtvUjitcSFBWdnELw8RSpMTd0/1+G91CS7g/QnQwu/V6mFtvFUTVReOjHzsKvwWaqp3JpgAGH2foqOv213DODXq2ZsFpVkUmBmnwIaCpntlXkXtQwj+UVSwR7/MigE728RVmRJuzStpzuEGThw== Received: from [212.82.98.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2016 07:59:21 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.82] by tm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2016 07:59:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2016 07:59:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 464008.93768.bm@smtp119.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6fX_i4QVM1mOaZgjED6ia6wNert9NU4WCyKJxEIH9F88xG5 XMAyNTqoZ6LLjPPFEGzqLeMdZPSo2PxMgPgFNlj4PM2_FKPgcTNyrGcvOmJS yTReIuZkMfOzaxBY69Us3aoz4kevgkzRx0793.0D40VeijW1k.Q4mC_HZ_m3 oD6gSOUf_0nLGU4_J.at6pGxyS5v6mZCjvJPNRdPGArmJWvjM577LydIN5cf npkiNlaGmrw5LQfjrtTv8OpKfJSahxRC0Jbj76ZrnQNdBqzOZzP2IatmRsT9 H81xlTrNMSrO9u7Fl7lzs2cQDH997DK.JC2JJvz9KOCfCD0lnU0naGuAJi2B qCrHh5iUrq1JIHVmnikTqk0zWOW4UKeycc82upHV7mT1QAf062TatY4TiiGd yp034ik1ep834zBBJgEPoiTU982n_Hy1sdcxrnfYTf0W3AU6ZUizt37GEsn1 7sISTwche0jesYEn3mlTga_2UWdGLg6irpX3XcEDcBMKURDCfwtONQm8w443 J6ZTlLv1W3h__.8eh7BNhAHuIEFaqXRPAm6WPn1h5SegSDb1yTtgnnvWvvdT g4HhcGIFELkdPUL2BzoYkKUnqlIM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:59:20 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam Message-ID: <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-ubuntu-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:02:54 -0000 On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:31:20 +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: >my experience with forums is always unfavorable, messages on a >specific topic are practically impossible to find. I'm in favour of mailing lists, too, but your claims aren't correct. The mailman archives don't provide a search engine at all, forums usually provide a search engine. Often mailman archives are mirrored by nabble and gmane, but their search engines don't work well. However, startpage/google searches work very well, including mailing lists and forums, it's just useful to know how the search engine has to be used. Unfortunately duckduckgo and other search engines can't compare to startpage/google, this is important to know. Startpage/google often works better than searching folders with received mails by a MUA, unless we didn't use tags for important mails. >Besides, mailing lists work even without a graphical interface on the >user's end. Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal browsers. Blind users using braille usually are used to those terminal browsers. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 09:17:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40458C58CC2 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx2.mailbox.org (mx2.mailbox.org [80.241.60.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0341117C for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7EAB43148 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:11:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received; s= mail20150812; t=1480237911; bh=cCeXGRebUlTuMt2UTC34W8NldGWixJ+na POZPqqHnRg=; b=op78TT3m57MJvBPI34kwLqlIiNmC3P9NVx/xr6h8xIU7ZWWxa 1R0YXfSHfdwTEAb3nNTfG7YXPchdOB7y0raA7n1u5LRnaB53jA+mru+CsqZihQuD 7jzXQBOBN1FkHSRpgU+v7vonkKc804tJPWLjelJa0zcGHWgrxB7HIc0hUtKuR/xU uko6SZCGnBiBs1aHoMnWzMBXqpOQMLKwZD7L6ZVGWn62J7dNA7h9XMvbIVAWR78B C44CtHUidbnBzzkm1RuX8uyTPumSFCgGiBEU8+OUoftQ3bsqaR4GnaIRd0RRt7SP iDREtGtQiEtZHJjs+taElureSew9ORiMPrt8A== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTPS id DR9qnD1BBp27 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:11:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:11:48 +0100 Message-ID: <868ts5uw17.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: Subject: Re: Dealing with (multiple) pkgs with security vulnerabilities. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:17:54 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi, > Part of my security run output contains a long list of packages with > vulnerabilities. > 'pkg audit -F' returns a listing of these pkgs with enough details, but > pkg update && pkg upgrade returns nothing so I suppose there is a better > way to deal with these. Output of 'uname -a' is missing. - you are running a version that is EOL (e.g.: FreeBSD 8.x) => update base first and then try pkg update/upgrade again - you are running a platform (e.g. arm) for which packages are not built/updated - the url in your repository file (e.g. /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf) is wrong > I know I can manually do 'make -C /path/to/port/directory clean reinstall > clean', but that is so manual and tirng even just for 10 pkgs to be updated. > > What is the easiest way of doing a batch update for all the listed pkgs? - checkout/update /usr/ports with svn(lite) or portsnap - install ports-mgmt/portmaster - run 'portmaster -a' You haven't updated for a long time (more than a year). So maybe it's better to remove all installed ports (pkg delete -a) and reinstall them one by one. -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 09:45:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A94C58788 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FBC01B6 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id t79so127979832wmt.0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 01:45:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/C8jZrZ061lX2o5SMAlSGg8HE22/x6NaRUi+faUpDH8=; b=STaaMNSy/aA5aBEcOwUT8pN3lBbps9OeuGDXfhKr0JMsbi4w0h7ydJE9JOVVx686P2 wfyZPMXspEwgaUlenPCKh7gVP1P4/AsxkI0FN9oBaO7mc49REBsGitod0NH1svOMMJnB 6v6IYDMcp1/qgC3EK2V//fn3+1VVPM3ToNAuNpMsN6A4UK5tBQ5xCv8HvgfAI9Dbbw9r TeCrpZ18aFOZVAEUFUEtthM8SgmfOjyajsh9Qf8yvVYfGKmuo6z2W5Y0Mv90rFtD4PCA REmERMRbQAZoNUNX5ZKbUHB0nnFVDvWzCSk3L5ardKK/v+WhFdFTepE6N4OOebq+poLp zaKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/C8jZrZ061lX2o5SMAlSGg8HE22/x6NaRUi+faUpDH8=; b=AYfJ9bJXBwUF7mWXesCNlv+vLwQD4agfj4kNsV/7McyEuAgXqL4MbX6QTUcLM5/rNP zAw8VhGGV4bkEZoSNVDm/OCeQ1FZI6TQk3weU8yEcuUEgr01lEA3LyCRk4JYCqAMxtxb BzJCsFDe4kb432psBtjr72zabUd86Vk0zf6Yr59ilpGqImvYJazztcVnqRWnAzi5ujEo Om79W2y2b/O84F54Iks0aLnH4mzFapPaa4N/AjS/MmxbI1iHF+T1+GsjJtwx6ecQZ8/r CKY94YAIhnKbK+T0blTXYCni2PDIg+Vcq1ZxjDSqSKsP2CPrUShMU1BRbaLSyAqbAsMj jIcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03KfIuufZgiuU9g8IuoHf2QwCL+k9u6jXOqtOJDjXKSZLncp+iec7hxfVepI+vZ/t59B3HJRKgwtU/HYg== X-Received: by 10.28.131.72 with SMTP id f69mr13710473wmd.135.1480239938037; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 01:45:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.44.69 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 01:44:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <868ts5uw17.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> References: <868ts5uw17.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 12:44:57 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dealing with (multiple) pkgs with security vulnerabilities. To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:45:40 -0000 On 27 November 2016 at 12:11, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Part of my security run output contains a long list of packages with > > vulnerabilities. > > 'pkg audit -F' returns a listing of these pkgs with enough details, but > > pkg update && pkg upgrade returns nothing so I suppose there is a better > > way to deal with these. > > Output of 'uname -a' is missing. > Yeah, I am sorry I didn't supply that. I forgot. > > - you are running a version that is EOL (e.g.: FreeBSD 8.x) > That is so true!! But I also have some servers running 9.3 and 10.3. Would it be different dealing with this situation in 9.3|10.3 ?? > => update base first and then try pkg update/upgrade again > - you are running a platform (e.g. arm) for which packages are not > built/updated > - the url in your repository file (e.g. /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf) is wrong > url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest", > > I know I can manually do 'make -C /path/to/port/directory clean reinstall > > clean', but that is so manual and tirng even just for 10 pkgs to be > updated. > > > > What is the easiest way of doing a batch update for all the listed pkgs? > > - checkout/update /usr/ports with svn(lite) or portsnap > I use portsnap. > - install ports-mgmt/portmaster > I use portupgrade. > - run 'portmaster -a' > So, `portupgrade -1` ?? Okay. I always find that scary. I guess I have to upgrade these systems to 10.3, or maybe 11. > You haven't updated for a long time (more than a year). So maybe it's > better to remove all installed ports (pkg delete -a) and reinstall > them one by one. > Sounds sensibe, but I usually just update the ports that I know as most active - those for which the server was build. Anyway, I get the point now. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 10:17:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACFCC58024 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx1.mailbox.org (mx1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC4D611E for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 829CE43C85 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:10:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received; s= mail20150812; t=1480241453; bh=J2SMfY5TshKOmMd+xvJEQG5HamrMWhyHr +NtjTUyFB8=; b=pivTKMkUYBhRXSWt9vXwr9HhlVO6MZXsYfWCZxhsgOYJSmqYe 1rMpBEb9Pc7UM0bVqmFLWoMOQfCJ2sVWa4ShbSFK+KinO5HatKBuK0PUfZcsGPsA 5gj6DW4QvwCO66BQIOVPtQZb/mjI8SH83u6TiL/Y5b1Idjh/CI/pS8U/8kowMQUm +s5o1q94Q4e+fcQZsyV2UHFLfR4bIMvgXaB8iFiPR/MFSI+Qb0xldZejMJsUdmMd 7zRVnB4BGDPxH7A/0rc2q/boiRxcwKtSTIzyebsWfd/vJYGg/yGtoDxCjbBH5nUE J/8Dh8vetSdHf41XZv9jXmNHo4ZotexwyFzow== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by spamfilter03.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter03.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.117]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTPS id Ftfhuo38XX-h for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:10:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: <8660n9utar.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dealing with (multiple) pkgs with security vulnerabilities. In-Reply-To: References: <868ts5uw17.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:17:44 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On 27 November 2016 at 12:11, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >> >> - you are running a version that is EOL (e.g.: FreeBSD 8.x) >> > > That is so true!! But I also have some servers running 9.3 and 10.3. Would > it be different dealing with this situation in 9.3|10.3 ?? Sure, 9.3 and 10.3 are still supported but the former will reach EOL soon: https://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html#sup Have a look at : This server's package sets: FreeBSD:8:i386 (no longer updated) FreeBSD:8:amd64 (no longer updated) [...] -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 10:34:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D9C58648 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wj0-x233.google.com (mail-wj0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9945CC8F for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wj0-x233.google.com with SMTP id xy5so92180483wjc.0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:34:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wva8uS+Sul7tawRBjXhAk8RTZZdLDblWlrjYGaaldw4=; b=0HrIhJ13ZcIfgn3Lb8VXFMOEK9pNBDEFtbP+fdaYEArzLoVyj07LEppcLR3+Q2v5ic ScXwEBiXRVxSEzUCZ2cGm43KKAgKT8H9o0TpIx4fYrlynocGVQb83Q8qJ1XiYZw6Y042 UHBX19otn/rDua72iWw9w6TynLkdltqMjFHPZx6/wVodwZ/yyXI/PLgdayXnwc9Rjmk9 Q8pkxNI1wl/s9MwZo/bbmgTHWIYXUPWPX0PcOYNVu7pxyl4GzbihKMmXkr87APUimFlz ZCvtYxXj//nAaYm0NJsGP5V9E8+1/zd4O4hzTDbhRPkKAWiFBfUaZI9IOjc6nF9vetm0 K5Nw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wva8uS+Sul7tawRBjXhAk8RTZZdLDblWlrjYGaaldw4=; b=HUVqFkQpKQbT8H8KSzvn4f6KWjDWHlbdG+Www9rFBWh3MCHAaisk9uWglPLPuRumCH vSwI2qe7MFx1GdkqyyoTbqVtox/yIKYev8qKwMFajkBXTfNDoeyBhm75/EWYnBkVemh7 sfqsBsEcU55u7o3BoFTyBr4y10cG61+rVHVIZClMO5+qETunbZOSGIrjCpC4C4O/HtgW 7ZY/E5zjeeaE2arvO4pLMd/YgnmwNLA1xwDIw29WMPG3JGLWgefEEZ2Xn3cxT/9nUjz2 o0iljzCqx+eU7AYhxgNA59GGH6grk7I/7YGI2lXlkqEPEmrB7oloNhgfbiVMdo6qIymd /wMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03YcNXZUgde46GpceoXafSRXrk87ZpkdAAEXida2CjOGsijQn/umRstJKvlKA+D9gy2P23ua+GNakB4xw== X-Received: by 10.194.86.165 with SMTP id q5mr14182081wjz.178.1480242838592; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:33:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.44.69 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:33:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8660n9utar.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> References: <868ts5uw17.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> <8660n9utar.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:33:17 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dealing with (multiple) pkgs with security vulnerabilities. To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:34:01 -0000 On 27 November 2016 at 13:10, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > On 27 November 2016 at 12:11, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > >> > >> - you are running a version that is EOL (e.g.: FreeBSD 8.x) > >> > > > > That is so true!! But I also have some servers running 9.3 and 10.3. > Would > > it be different dealing with this situation in 9.3|10.3 ?? > > Sure, 9.3 and 10.3 are still supported but the former will reach EOL > soon: https://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html#sup > > Have a look at : > > This server's package sets: > > FreeBSD:8:i386 (no longer updated) > FreeBSD:8:amd64 (no longer updated) > [...] > Thank you so much. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 13:43:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16856C55731 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay112.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay112.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 635C4EF6 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BKBgDW4TpY/wCm81FeGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBwEBAQEBgzgBAQEBAR9KgRGkYCYBlE2CB4URAYEPAoFlQhIBAgEBAQEBAQF?= =?us-ascii?q?iKIRpAQEEOj8QCxgJJQ8qHgYTiHGvD4s+AQEBAQEBBAEBAQEBIosZiioFmlSQe?= =?us-ascii?q?XSPS41xhAwlBStHTYVSPTSIdQEBAQ?= Received: from 0.166-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.243.166.0]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2016 14:41:50 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uARDfl1n092854; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:41:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:41:47 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Patrick Mahan Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Having trouble printing to my HP OJ Pro 8600 all-in-one Message-ID: <20161127144147.06aa181f@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <6ff9e537-e2db-e6f3-39aa-4267ec7400c1@mahan.org> References: <31b7b3c7-326f-87e2-2986-f06280057c46@dreamchaser.org> <98dafc2e-0584-2521-d766-8fb3da449c2b@dreamchaser.org> <686b9894-f67c-d459-4a72-16df5641a887@mahan.org> <20161126150145.5bf8773c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <6ff9e537-e2db-e6f3-39aa-4267ec7400c1@mahan.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:43:03 -0000 On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:08:34 -0800 Patrick Mahan wrote: > On 11/26/16 6:01 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> What is the output of 'pkg which /usr/local/etc/cups/apple.types'? If it >> says not found in database, remove the file. If /usr/local/etc/cups/mime.* >> exist, remove them. You can also remove the following packages: > > I believe that was added as part of the avahi stuff that I installed to > support apple devices needing "AirPrint" support. > > The apple.types contains: > > gypsy-new# cat /usr/local/etc/cups/apple.types > # > # "$Id:$" > # > # Airprint type > image/urf urf string(0,UNIRAST<00>) > # > # End of "$Id:$". > # > > There is no /usr/local/etc/cups/mime.types (as you can from the 'find' > command). > >> foomatic-db-20161105 >> foomatic-db-engine-4.0.12_1,2 >> foomatic-db-hpijs-1.4 >> gimp-gutenprint-5.2.10_3 >> gutenprint-base-5.2.10_2 >> gutenprint-cups-5.2.10_3 >> gutenprint-foomatic-5.2.10_2 >> hplip-plugin-3.16.10 > > Okay, they are removed. > >> Then restart cupsd with 'service cupsd restart'. > > Done. > > Well, look at that, it's printing. > > What do you think was the blockage? Removing those packages should not have made a difference. Maybe all you needed was a restart. I don't think you need those apple.* files. URF support is already included in /usr/local/share/cups/mime/cupsfilters.*. Something else you might want to check in /usr/local/etc/cups is if there are any differences between configurations files and their corresponding *.sample file and if those differences still make sense. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 14:08:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54545C55EC0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp206.alice.it (smtp206.alice.it [82.57.200.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC973A68 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (79.50.22.100) by smtp206.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 583578F40106461C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:02:23 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uARE2K5e061878 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:02:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Ansible and jails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:02:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:08:08 -0000 Hello. I'm digging into sysutil/ansible and I'd welcome some suggestion on how to manage jails. Right now I'm still trying to be able to run simple commands and I'll deal with playbooks later. Since I've already an ssh user with a proper key in place, I'm able to run commands on every host as an unprivileged user. I've put root passwords in vaults, so I can "become" through su. So now I can issue commands like: > ansible basehost --ask-vault-pass -b -m shell -a "ezjail-admin console -e 'command' jailname" This however has two disadvantages: it's not simple and requires me to issue multiple commands, since I cannot address base hosts and jails at the same time. I'd like to be able to get info from every base host and every jail within, with something like: > ansible all --ask-vault-pass -b -m shell -a "perl -v" So I looked if there's a way to do this and found several solutions; none works for me though. Bundled with Ansible comes a "jail" connector plugin, also described here: > https://www.keltia.net/howtos/jail-mgmt-with-ansible/ However, it looks like it's a "local" plugin, so it won't work on jails on remote hosts. I guess I could setup ansible on every base host and let a "main" ansible instance control "child" ansible instances, but that would be a quite complicated setup. There's >https://github.com/austinhyde/ansible-sshjail However, it's only compatible with sysutil/ansible1, not sysutil/ansible and I'd like to use the latter. Furthermore I wasn't able to make it work: it seems to get stuck in the "become" phase (possibly because I want to use su, not sudo?). Any other hint? How do you manage jails with ansible? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 15:01:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEA1C5818D for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from John.Kitz@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B63A7A5F for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from John.Kitz@xs4all.nl) Received: from picard ([82.95.89.208]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id D2zo1u0084VixDu012zp4A; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:59:50 +0100 Reply-To: From: "John W. Kitz" To: References: <000301d24803$598b9f70$0ca2de50$@Kitz@xs4all.nl> <7aaaebe4-0416-9cec-1c44-37e2c67943c8@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <7aaaebe4-0416-9cec-1c44-37e2c67943c8@bananmonarki.se> Subject: RE: How do I get rid of "Root mount waiting for: GRAID-NVIDIA" messages during FreeBSD 11.0 boot sequence? Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:59:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000901d248be$e68d6d20$b3a84760$@Kitz@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdJIEWj5FtFGTiCMRCW8tV+mY/Po7QArSFuQ Content-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:01:03 -0000 Bernt, > > Because I wanted to do some quick tests with a bit of software I > installed FreeBSD 11.0 on a computer that is not being used. The > installation went fine, but the subsequent start-ups are all delayed > for about 20 - 30 seconds at some point during the boot sequence while > the following message is repeatedly displayed: "Root mount waiting for: GRAID-NVIDIA". > > Since the computer contains only one hard disk and is not configured > for RAID, I suspect that one disk came from other hardware which did > use RAID and that affects the way in which the disk works in the > system in which it is currently installed. > > Any suggestions how to get rid of these messages and the delay? > > Please cc any replies to me since I'm not normally subscribed to this > mailing list. > > Regards, Jk. > Man gpart, gpart delete. JKi: With your suggestion and the content of https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072224.html I fixed it. Thanks, Jk. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 15:28:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C97C58A39 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F15A265C for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2C402977 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/E2C402977; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Ansible and jails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:27:51 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DsumwvQr2Xm40LRqxramrg3FJSkNHsBOJ" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:28:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --DsumwvQr2Xm40LRqxramrg3FJSkNHsBOJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BT26xicc7s6xA5FghdENPO6qOIktGPekF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ansible and jails References: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> --BT26xicc7s6xA5FghdENPO6qOIktGPekF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/11/2016 14:02, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > I'm digging into sysutil/ansible and I'd welcome some suggestion on how= > to manage jails. >=20 > Right now I'm still trying to be able to run simple commands and I'll > deal with playbooks later. You can manage jails with ansible exactly like you manage any other type of host. That's easiest if you have a mixed environment. Yes, you need to run sshd and install all the ansible prerequisites in each jail, but that's usually not a problem. Personally, I prefer to install sudo everywhere and configure it to authenticate using your SSH key -- see the security/pam_ssh_agent_auth port. Also check out https://dan.langille.org/2013/12/22/creating-a-new-ansible-node/ although I don't think it's necessary to create a special ansible user account -- you can just log into your own account and become root from there. After all, you're already doing that when you need root access aren't you? (The trick here would be to write a "first time" playbook that sets up sudo + pam_ssh_agent_auth by using eg. su(8) as the become method just for the initial setup of a freshly installed machine, but then uses sudo afterwards.) However, ansible does have a special connection_method method for jails -- see https://www.keltia.net/howtos/jail-mgmt-with-ansible/ This easily allows you to run ansible from the jail host and use jexec(8) to get root level access to the jails hosted on it, and it's good if your system is essentially one physical machine with a bunch of jails on it. Working out how to use this connection method for jails hosted on a remote server is another story though... Cheers, Matthew --BT26xicc7s6xA5FghdENPO6qOIktGPekF-- --DsumwvQr2Xm40LRqxramrg3FJSkNHsBOJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYOvt/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT7F4QAI+UmliyasY2M4jYJcWVYhst /OeDxi5JKvgu07XcM4wX16j0wkVIVYd/DpRhqvUR7UHeFlqgCo4MFr9ZHAKYEAEy u6CPqrrYu+wQxsJqYAGoAF6adomSgd0+/CKLWa02+8W3DeKtd0zFn3AWxWme5Y1b WrxleGcR2H0Ywkp5pB2TSTL4CgVkeEAljBtSkEoIswdF7vXWaH1jD2muXSb9tJ+g Dwodfun9KKLpD8GeSFYWWB9iFE4ZvDolnCE+udSWNexGZ8Wx7g+mupSatt/Eqgzp gnVW3sxZQ1Nn5Odjkut/4jCRGJOgO7Gvlbmz8Me4kB+CDZbc52E9E4w7Qw71clGi zh/4pc34yNnMcrk55/u/uQlBFIb7TjWOYtWxq+ywwhiGvx2x0JKkJYuK4Moz68Ux zcZikSi9EbFCsKrRU56XO/ERHTvj5KZwg4W+ysUQJogZ/7ESrZgW35OkQ/cWWHQA zhCCtwktg+zjSQ8nveRkzq3cXj6epmaqJJtSboQZju/BmIOYX6uf/pXXtXJqsQVc gwhNAZDLGd9n7xrIAW7WPMCDToGXPavMtBebbwck0x4J8dhwPQ9ImNZq0WCunx9S /GqP5Kq6UIreu1jU/tk0mX/RLK8MVvBiBX3oSlk3WHsG2IK+zm44eECY6pVe9lPj 3igaTQFfFT8swG/KN5hw =63jl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DsumwvQr2Xm40LRqxramrg3FJSkNHsBOJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 27 23:09:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6B7C59795 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from ns.mahan.org (23-24-207-145-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [23.24.207.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E9862D20; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from Cone-of-Silence.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.mahan.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id uAS2Di6M022216; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:13:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Subject: Re: Having trouble printing to my HP OJ Pro 8600 all-in-one To: Tijl Coosemans References: <31b7b3c7-326f-87e2-2986-f06280057c46@dreamchaser.org> <98dafc2e-0584-2521-d766-8fb3da449c2b@dreamchaser.org> <686b9894-f67c-d459-4a72-16df5641a887@mahan.org> <20161126150145.5bf8773c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <6ff9e537-e2db-e6f3-39aa-4267ec7400c1@mahan.org> <20161127144147.06aa181f@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Patrick Mahan Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:09:06 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161127144147.06aa181f@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:09:15 -0000 On 11/27/16 5:41 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:08:34 -0800 Patrick Mahan wrote: >> On 11/26/16 6:01 AM, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>> What is the output of 'pkg which /usr/local/etc/cups/apple.types'? If it >>> says not found in database, remove the file. If /usr/local/etc/cups/mime.* >>> exist, remove them. You can also remove the following packages: >> >> I believe that was added as part of the avahi stuff that I installed to >> support apple devices needing "AirPrint" support. >> >> The apple.types contains: >> >> gypsy-new# cat /usr/local/etc/cups/apple.types >> # >> # "$Id:$" >> # >> # Airprint type >> image/urf urf string(0,UNIRAST<00>) >> # >> # End of "$Id:$". >> # >> >> There is no /usr/local/etc/cups/mime.types (as you can from the 'find' >> command). >> >>> foomatic-db-20161105 >>> foomatic-db-engine-4.0.12_1,2 >>> foomatic-db-hpijs-1.4 >>> gimp-gutenprint-5.2.10_3 >>> gutenprint-base-5.2.10_2 >>> gutenprint-cups-5.2.10_3 >>> gutenprint-foomatic-5.2.10_2 >>> hplip-plugin-3.16.10 >> >> Okay, they are removed. >> >>> Then restart cupsd with 'service cupsd restart'. >> >> Done. >> >> Well, look at that, it's printing. >> >> What do you think was the blockage? > > Removing those packages should not have made a difference. Maybe all you > needed was a restart. > No, I have done both mutiple cupsd restarts and multiple reboots. > I don't think you need those apple.* files. URF support is already included > in /usr/local/share/cups/mime/cupsfilters.*. > Okay, I will look at backing those out. > Something else you might want to check in /usr/local/etc/cups is if there > are any differences between configurations files and their corresponding > *.sample file and if those differences still make sense. > Will do, thanks for the help. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 01:01:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02501C580CC for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wj0-x233.google.com (mail-wj0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88FB92F08 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wj0-x233.google.com with SMTP id xy5so102467816wjc.0 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:01:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4XQVHCPw72Ox5rQnZHHku3YuNvzCh9CRJmmGUDx5HPY=; b=Q/jSDF9g4dqCyiu2A5R/STZFdeeUYnznfefAuQe2BHTS2zJjBRcldfVgE5xQ1MOZoy EinVcC8aR0XzS5Ol6yyzkAstta+hrw5Z2MG0L6BszsZKLe/zyyT1LWsVxy7IMHv9cjbE Ikfd/vRZIEd+c5s8Kf94tzno+jW5FJTyhllmzGjOjyer82+O/emTjFnikS3jAIWoJrHO f0RiTpxqF3z77klXd8Luv5y8I1MEFi+tHa1g85GIvzXrW1DizA9R4Mnrwx8STJ4vY20X I8k9qvOS+yFHkIsDzD0NnksZqwKblBUzmTeWU9ys6XlBXh6KaGx1x5GMfjLDnY7XrZGH PLVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4XQVHCPw72Ox5rQnZHHku3YuNvzCh9CRJmmGUDx5HPY=; b=bp6E5gMsd//dxX23xh37J3Ya+a7xyfUpJgVW3/LrFX+5/y4n0xIIDrhiyvU1HrSO/c GK47n5YwZAKiMApOF2S5HE5N1tWzoZR9BKYonXOPVrT3vSFQBy7KdoafQsyZqJos2v+F NsZXuIJP/YSSRA0dqv6CHV/QxB6IZmDPd/YL8pxKQTloi6pckN+Xq7pLhWh3u+F/abPc 41RjRuKOeNtyoL+JlfQcIBhVMqdMOZV0Z5k5aT2mNt+VtvM5jeL8FBZkAZtN4/Rlplbb 6fFMqK9plJ3DW6nW/pTZRAOg+7wGrBjUXIK50HQvvQknRiiqb/SP+JWYztJeVdHp18Ec spzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC027D/Z6UyRyoR5DUkMJxahXGHPHNJksj5xFAkbeckTjc7XdHjYkWkaT8S1lKVkG0R17w8iWiD1DRVSfHg== X-Received: by 10.194.177.231 with SMTP id ct7mr16603768wjc.221.1480294875060; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:01:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.179.119 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:01:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Adam Vande More Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:01:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: "Jack L." Cc: RW , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:01:17 -0000 On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Jack L. wrote: > It's a gateway laptop, whatever is set is already the default since 99% of > the options aren't user configurable. Changing the boot order and turn > on/off auto dim are about the only options available. There isn't a reset > to default option either since it's an old laptop. > ACPI can be modified at the loader. Maybe something in kern.eventtimer.X would help. Might have better luck asking on stable@ -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 10:57:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1618C59203 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A708F1FA5 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id a124so222701059ioe.2 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:57:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wLUkQJ0UeuRDXetkBtW4pDQosjok0dQaLmHi0IKm9Bs=; b=pxXvvtJeqIA6tlti8EpdF44ocHDHjUFnLNj860v6N1P5Gp5k3x/iHE2yS4LGlNFdqd Iza/zSptsstU3NfJrNLoQwcP+Ftt1/QBkbz7hZ3h9yIFEwZjgSpkkyggu3b0JveU9m91 utKK+j4i99INllMUCVxoshRLVLMQHySQ2VCI+4ZEIvx39Z0GF6X4tOQ50UKBIed/lgfh wwZGMDZMXXjB3GYmYEIQwt88CqQGgY2p7F1QrbT2gMp2TwKBiS5s0x+qFN3VrlfHzRfB mSA9mIkhajPyuuTQfcKJmOIq/q2VXFCiPYNSRgrKnUGJeINMNhLsJDYvXCUEUTmVwDJN sHAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wLUkQJ0UeuRDXetkBtW4pDQosjok0dQaLmHi0IKm9Bs=; b=JLmfKoLKAIrZujqHryognHdRFotvlQkh56mLHJ2s8LsCFgPX3OEjK/JOP9XWE4SZlB 1hiWHCgcJHmJrOw6h2Ap5Ox0inf5hj90ARp/0zIuEAZc+5CzC5nDftAML2iSWhD2k8d3 hjE45vfieE7lokvpG4VTlZlg5evZ0dJI0NhqC0PpfOSTE6DVNnQwQMTgNEEL+nCxB7rD YX3lCgiml8fVT9IxMCTgp04Z6c9CW3APh5ikTZZ/hMc+2AQUmFUHNb3Yfvs1lGaZrhWK 7EbNCBA4Iy2/U3EUvkvZNxDuhwbFe7XoILt9VXn15dQMxxyvtWrX09HCpkOuDISNkOkh kkyA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02UHZMp5WBuoKK8JquNC2rg5Z7hdw+Oci1NLsar2prYvf67ZsLE6m6ZAxKEje5+KovJab4U0Kqh30F3wQ== X-Received: by 10.36.95.202 with SMTP id r193mr17535306itb.17.1480330659025; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:57:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.178.21 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:56:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> From: "Jack L." Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:56:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: Adam Vande More Cc: RW , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:57:40 -0000 On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Jack L. wrote: > >> It's a gateway laptop, whatever is set is already the default since 99% >> of the options aren't user configurable. Changing the boot order and turn >> on/off auto dim are about the only options available. There isn't a reset >> to default option either since it's an old laptop. >> > > ACPI can be modified at the loader. Maybe something in kern.eventtimer.X > would help. Might have better luck asking on stable@ > I've changed the kern.eventtimer to many different values and didn't seem to make any difference > > -- > Adam > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 15:53:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D846DC5A4CD for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from barracuda.ssimicro.com (barracuda.ssimicro.com [96.46.39.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF9E010D3 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) by barracuda.ssimicro.com with ESMTP id lqLFaThZFzRnnb2J (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uASFrZ0e098207 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:53:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Warren Block , Jonathan McKeown References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> Cc: lists@bertram-scharpf.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: markham breitbach Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:54:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ssimicro.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:53:54 -0000 I have been on this list (on and off) for nearly two decades, and the the reality is that more Garbage is generated by people whining and moaning about spam, than actual unsolicted commercial messaging. Spam is OFF TOPIC on this list. If you wish to discuss is privately, please take it OFF LIST. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 19:54:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3544C5AFC9 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp208.alice.it (smtp208.alice.it [82.57.200.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878EA175D for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (79.50.22.100) by smtp208.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 58357917011283D2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:48:43 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uASJmfMV022376 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:48:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Ansible and jails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <34b5beb3-b942-d1c9-aa67-25bb9597ea98@netfence.it> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:48:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:54:27 -0000 On 11/27/16 16:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > You can manage jails with ansible exactly like you manage any other type > of host. That's easiest if you have a mixed environment. Yes, you need > to run sshd and install all the ansible prerequisites in each jail, but > that's usually not a problem. Right. I forgot to mention that I don't have ssh in my jails and that most of them live on a loopback interface (like 127.1.0.1), so they wouldn't be accessible anyway (unless I set up some firewall rules). Both are things I'd like to avoid. > However, ansible does have a special connection_method method for jails > -- see https://www.keltia.net/howtos/jail-mgmt-with-ansible/ This That's one of the links I posted :) bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 21:37:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89C6C5A496 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x236.google.com (mail-ua0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5734C1DE2 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 12so157879545uas.2 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:37:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=PEvn951xq/Lmy223JGrI+Z/+qZkJ+FjC9hhnrGoj9Yw=; b=MS0owWixpFBFQFzMhPIAF4tX4lWP28lEeSTZT9tIlNGKLWn5yHISvXY2txaot4eHd2 OqBtQkpTsJW42xPlv1g6iq5r+rZ3R9pcJKvIRvJ43lUhYJwky7MvJ7RDE1Hz1T5UKbJq T4v67rflTZstOvsC9Yo1MYq6Iuz8O2itJ8FRCtNa5YjbQQq2O+0/SUcA+uMwQxlPSdiz 2d1KgVqHR7Ru7mlXdrFqGJ09Ct7SgxaKNSZp8LrT4PQTDbhvM85L7HHuBfh9UqS37WU3 rZ8mcHpWav4soOmbKgHrTzqNI0bw+hfKxIsNhINEEpB+Irz8FXd3wPsllgdnDtC0d8mF 3Brg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PEvn951xq/Lmy223JGrI+Z/+qZkJ+FjC9hhnrGoj9Yw=; b=TWb8hU2ETKULe6oovbzghdIBuhapcOxK61RKhJv47inPwmR/g7lC6VqyMWZZAHor/I SMXZ9Gb+yqFA5+bKtYY8AJbeWM/RYvYSJuWl6v+g18NVfrMlrpWfp7kuxeo2nG1Z352U Trf31YrqSt1zozDVeAf87zR+drwIYPzcRgatt5iVvvm1qG+jxYy7yBIAQjAtTQjvaEb7 a0CYdYJ2AH8wpXc+j9uEbop5OIg5nj2MR7pFvY0chNklN6rvph97GmInugSfcNvbEHxs TYxYu7Y8AAl5QOat8kxDorhD1dzV/vHP56wiQhYzeH3HmCN1GtOSU4Ip0+sTT2AcgEGc z5TA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00foeI6ww6mxzR4EIWI5fjoGmOwEp+ENX4Kw1PqY6R49j1sm//cwgqsGTLNnE30WJcO3UUQW2jds0yrfQ== X-Received: by 10.159.35.108 with SMTP id 99mr17636345uae.4.1480369046351; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:37:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.200.197 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:37:25 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> From: David I Noel Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:37:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:37:27 -0000 > Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal > browsers. A forum <=> list interface could solve that problem, no? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 28 23:56:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870E7C597B9 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cody@sysop.ca) Received: from watney.sysop.ca (watney.sysop.ca [104.207.159.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C91EB3 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cody@sysop.ca) Received: from mbx.sysop.ca (mbx.sysop.ca [172.16.0.2]) by watney.sysop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F6CFA040 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mbx.sysop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88DE185C502C for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mbx.sysop.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mbx.sysop.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id sYmVbOi9v1jX for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mbx.sysop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E96A18625341 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sysop.ca Received: from mbx.sysop.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mbx.sysop.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id IldS3Jj7rLFU for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mbx.sysop.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mbx.sysop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ECF1862533F for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 16:46:45 -0700 (MST) From: Cody Swanson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <271308395.22831.1480376805900.JavaMail.zimbra@sysop.ca> Subject: subversion error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.1.24.20] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1153 (ZimbraWebClient - FF50 (Win)/8.6.0_GA_1153) Thread-Topic: subversion error Thread-Index: z+yDlW3A0n9TpZsWik9vRBR95gZFYg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:56:16 -0000 I have been noticing when I do an update from svn.freebsd.org I get the following error: # svn update /usr/ports Service unavailableService unavailableUpdating '.': At revision 427349. # pkg info subversion subversion-1.9.4 The svn update appears to work correctly, it just generates a few errors which I don't recall seeing in the past. I get the same error when I attempt a checkout or update from any of the public freebsd svn repos. I thought perhaps that I had something cached locally that was causing the error so I removed ~/.subversion, /usr/src and /usr/ports. The same errors still persist. It's not a big deal since I can still checkout the source, I was just wondering if anyone has encountered this error before. I'm sure it's something I did on my end. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 03:11:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409B5C5A7B7 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 03:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2FC91791 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 03:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uAT3AwZN072666; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:10:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: open ports To: Ernie Luzar References: <5839D239.7010503@gmail.com> <5839E997.1060000@gmail.com> Cc: Freebsd Questions From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:10:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5839E997.1060000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 03:11:10 -0000 On 2016-11-26 20:59, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2016-11-26 19:19, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> Running 11.0 release, ipfilter firewall with rules to block inbound >>> port 21, 25, 110. Nmap shows those ports are open even though the >>> firewall is blocking them. Is this expected? >>> >> You are testing them from the "outside" >> > > Issued this command from the command line of the host. > IE; not from some host on the public net. > > nmap -v xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx x = host public IP address You can test this site. https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 06:10:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4772CC5B3BA for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 047FC198A for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [82.113.99.52] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cBbcj-0001aQ-Py for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:10:37 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id uAT6AYO1002044 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:10:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id uAT6AXUe002043 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:10:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:10:33 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam Message-ID: <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.99.52 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:10:47 -0000 El día Monday, November 28, 2016 a las 03:37:25PM -0600, David I Noel escribió: > > Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal > > browsers. Wrong. Forums do not do well, not in a fancy browser, not in lynx (which I'm used to use for many things), because one must be online all the time to read/sort/delete/answer messages. With the lists I'm fetching them down in a few minutes, read, delete and answer(!) them offline, and later I let do sendmail its job to send out my answers in a few seconds when I go online again. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No to the €! Out of this imperialistic EU! Out of the imperialistic NATO war alliance! ¡No al €! ¡Fuera de esta UE imperialista! ¡Fuera de esta OTAN imperialista! N€IN zum €! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen EU! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen NATO! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 07:44:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA3BC5ABAD for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serejk@febras.net) Received: from prima.febras.net (prima.febras.net [62.76.193.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CE531A9E for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serejk@febras.net) Received: from mail.febras.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prima.febras.net ("FEB RAS network Mail Server") with ESMTP id CD8FF55B95E for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:34:22 +1000 (VLAT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:34:22 +1000 From: Korolev Sergey To: Subject: Questions about FreeBSD built Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=92=D0=A6_=D0=94=D0=92=D0=9E_=D0=A0=D0=90?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=9D?= Reply-To: Mail-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6f9c8d359b441a76eb67f06c713a48fe@febras.net> X-Sender: serejk@febras.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.5.4 X-FEBRAS-Info: Contact e-mail: admin@febras.net X-FEBRAS-ID: CD8FF55B95E.A2CE9 X-FEBRAS: clean X-FEBRAS-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.821, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 2.18, BAYES_00 -15.00, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-FEBRAS-From: serejk@febras.net X-FEBRAS-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:44:41 -0000 Hello! Could you please tell me, what mail list should I post questions about FreeBSD-from-sources compilation? -- Korolev Sergey From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 07:49:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6B1C5AE13 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51C281CBD for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832DD7887; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:49:42 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1480405781; x=1482220182; bh=WJaE1RhBH 5WJSgny8hiwdI6QTOtmWybwURTHlNUgjx0=; b=nW2hhtJYs7iRHli1cucAC/kaf urWCu17sdzWM0VWrK97x5J2J88/0LNdMzby5Nz3jyABTmihHeNujHkRXzBdO6gaq eHr51yGmCph2MWMB52EpFI6xifV/zILuTwNI84X6qPi9o9V1u2ix2UorS2K6BFri Il8wwjNDk1vticeWiQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id XcTxYWGwKlSD; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:49:41 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DB08D7886; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:49:41 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id uAT7nedD030192; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:49:40 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about FreeBSD built In-Reply-To: <6f9c8d359b441a76eb67f06c713a48fe@febras.net> (message from Korolev Sergey on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:34:22 +1000) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:49:40 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:49:52 -0000 Hi, > Could you please tell me, what mail list should I post > questions about FreeBSD-from-sources compilation? I'd say, try here first. Best regards, Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 07:54:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB0DC5B112 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B92A61068 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-44-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.44.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA048277D0; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:48:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uAT7mqos001984; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:48:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:48:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: serejk@febras.net Cc: Subject: Re: Questions about FreeBSD built Message-Id: <20161129084852.9e816ac3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6f9c8d359b441a76eb67f06c713a48fe@febras.net> References: <6f9c8d359b441a76eb67f06c713a48fe@febras.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:54:18 -0000 On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:34:22 +1000, Korolev Sergey wrote: > Could you please tell me, what mail list should I post > questions about FreeBSD-from-sources compilation? Well, freebsd-questions is a good point to start. If the questions involves more complex things, freebsd-hackers, freebsd-stable or freebsd-current might provide better results. But it heavily depends on the actual question. FreeBSD mailing list names and purposes for reference: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 08:51:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11530C5CA7D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm4-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8352A117A for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1480409398; bh=M6isd7rYx+Me1bT32CJ3zW/PMaFWeVYWlINRMS0dVxA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=Ns8ijSKsIfxddU03STZENr27+KbqBEFDwI5K7pvhH1kGxq06kb81E1sHh/GvAXoABIomh7696Th6cGShrIJblomFlRISeCu+z9tfQjD9Ko4HqvQqOMAwaN3XWyceyHnbXbUxoUW1IrRHVR/UtD/9+wZBOdbnV1EdsXo5C3QrkaBIWx/KwGiXK3hcSZgXrVk6PudbIj2Pg1rNSDxOv/5WnI4Uu/XYCkJt1YsHeMhM9g9Ze80xs5XOQw4aCvTCV6Nkj9l4mVsWb+8jmonGkvJV4pzBJEHtxhDLUxHndiWVitp72gYxq5cpCUaQwBOh7K2JWrh1nS5knXtfXUqGF8psdA== Received: from [212.82.98.124] by nm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2016 08:49:58 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.79] by tm17.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2016 08:49:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2016 08:49:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 940870.1014.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: liYkT04VM1mE1kv_RCydcXdHJuvmtuVno_zrL6Ubx02fygk UiCdGSY4I6IkwYubiz.WiQ9FhHPWMZ0CefT6_D4hC9YPi1WN98GIpGIEHsGS qCEVuKQ7_VqahbVt_QAV8VM2.MrFNqXXyB60F5Yq5A6_LWDSk_vCnqhT0nVA oNOYelj7IMwKv8rb1elfE2NPG4byuTi6zDw2JV0vAIPhBeI5VOzDMt_Mf2OH nW85.U0fSuqCYoRs2AN7xJHpXiETGYon5XYoP2JYajwquO60Fq3vmzyDZ4qf UsfvXIXWd8.l32.zK9jkw4jA93moS36NSz.Vnz2BVCSWa3jDRJwt7NjtrDAl .Z60GRoNlmpfI0k5aRYpWPWkwOGdotv.szruY5PH41.qCQVzH2SXZkFiEJ8q EqnoWg7TkVdPqztFglzmRqDPOms.0sqIevs1Tf9SszMOc7BhiSwj93Ywkh.Y kSKuY2raVOlTI2Q9UOiTZ3S5ghAJphv4QFHWRudalPmqdDunUdvN8TpOO.X1 cMT3iC3QlVK8DtU.tW_Up8571wFU8VSFTiK_8NJ_5Gv0VlxOQEutM7O4tOX. TptC2RRy23zTnR5_iBJOeidAyJsxlBg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:49:58 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam Message-ID: <20161129094958.10e7a931@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:51:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:10:33 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: >Wrong. Forums do not do well Hi Matthias, I replied to https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2016-November/007092.html . "About freebsd-chat This list contains the overflow from the other lists about non-technical, social information." - https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 11:13:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE84C59E0D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+5cd0f8.17a06-freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@newsleopard.com) Received: from m71-161.mailgun.net (m71-161.mailgun.net [166.78.71.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A01E11051 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 11:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce+5cd0f8.17a06-freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@newsleopard.com) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; 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Tue, 29 Nov 2016 12:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x233.google.com (mail-ua0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 285CB18EC for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 12:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x233.google.com with SMTP id b35so175828112uaa.3 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:22:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=2DSCnkBRpxJCVpnrUyHWVDdesvdi/uHowViCYrI9Nqk=; b=i0AgQ3iLBMCM5Un8EUGCgn/wQ12nWpOgokI0GY/0yJOksUJICFuq1Qo9wXq/h/Vh4e cmVmmj9oZ8oSuyGnTrAb04QtyP149XNlG/H50NGn3dQDl5fkL+yhhTCcvBph7HQcUG/t MYX0uJ/sFSfUMOC1vIw/Sm83C9PmRyjMeLd3xFez/0o3bVo6+HxbWe49zula2R3FDzbF 7ptt/puqd59xK7UW5m4i+Zv9HM664nh6sfXiQ0F2fK83iaFSxLuTS0rKiHzXJcHmhh8a HZR7svRK9Vlr3PhFxDChaFmxGAl+yMuPBU/Jfrkjlrl2DN5eKYQealcJ0GXO8mZeqo9R hvTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 12:22:24 -0000 I hope we can at least agree on one thing--that however many people take one side or the other (though I'm not really sure how many "sides" there are here), this entire conversation is fairly pointless as nothing is going to change. We are not the "deciders". Project decisions get made behind walled gardens by an anointed few offline, or on lists that a select group have access to, and no one on the outside has any insight into, or say in the process. Unless maybe you donate lots of money. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 29 18:48:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76E4C5C15F for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo.suszko.eu (archeo.unixguru.pl [IPv6:2001:41d0:2:8316::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EC3A1970 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from archeo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5E74F78; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:48:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at archeo.local Received: from archeo.suszko.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by archeo (archeo.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 00GpcU2sv-gM; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from leo.lan (89-67-192-210.dynamic.chello.pl [89.67.192.210]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 984BB4F71; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:48:12 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suszko.eu; s=dkim; t=1480445292; bh=biJXjazwTKl/wIo9DRvccbWaf2z60BFNa1AOu2NQRjc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TUn6m+mcOv50lnxgB5cK/JalLIIBwZTjYwiw4mD/TZvqHJudQJ2yKE8rUcHy2W4I7 kZzlqOZFXqtlE+XRZMhmS1e9HfY5jfKFXErToM2LUoQnQPvoULIQYEZbztPxTJo3ON jGDR5Mr1GIzJP3QZHxA18pvwOAoZrDxvHt65SqtY= Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:48:05 +0100 From: Maciej Suszko To: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Subject: Re: FreeBSD upgrade 10.3 to 11.0 Message-ID: <20161129194805.0a0695e2@leo.lan> In-Reply-To: <21900172d2d5d5b4735453e274b5e86c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <21900172d2d5d5b4735453e274b5e86c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/2rXFvQs2Mizot2BTCIR/TB_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:48:15 -0000 --Sig_/2rXFvQs2Mizot2BTCIR/TB_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" wrote: > I am testing out the procedures to upgrade our existing FreeBSD hosts > from 10.3 to 11.0 using a bhyve guest configured for the purpose. I > have followed the instructions in the handbook/wiki to the best of my > understanding. I have a question about the last step however. >=20 > One is supposed to reinstall all of the port pkgs one has installed.=20 > Is there an automated way to do this provided by the FreeBSD > community; or is this a case of roll your own script? You can install misc/compat10x just after upgrade to 11.0 and then start rebuilding/reinstalling all binaries using your favourite tool. All software built on 10 _should_ work on 11.0 having compat10x. --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/2rXFvQs2Mizot2BTCIR/TB_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQRBv6xO7mzN+RcEaiUKKRSTSXuIagUCWD3NZQAKCRAKKRSTSXuI ajq6AJ42YOtYzyJYaoTeOTaeyp0OKtF6+ACfeUUTKsa+lWo+4/uRicJOnug/DKM= =fIkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2rXFvQs2Mizot2BTCIR/TB_-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 01:44:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C991BC5C0F4; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 01:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84D80142F; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 01:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id c21so305930613ioj.1; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:44:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HRqhTTqQIUlcMMgIVkp7ccCcXYVsZ1ii+RbyxUqgOdI=; b=C6sNKsaBz9jW9IAvx0W9r6LQPgazd5ZbvO0SzvZ0fl3DtnHckgu3igmtYUJJmZusYH 3AwMZbT4Cao9da3JrAgbSe7/FwP1n8mPdTjJf+vuqb5EJEkblII+Z1KmgmXU9XiAfpqG VvrPl5gIfBDLf+cQGl/4XF+fJ7R4fFKMvoB5UBGy6EHa1m/8t7c0azxWx1ysGnuSZwjb HcQh7Zhk1wfXnXP9XElygJCDmnbaRwj6Q8h+8WOgvKCwL0nYWE647rcF2S+eWgccuSy+ 0ZkVEHB4yB7NOTQXoSKOrxHJG/Obi6XX28ZI+3UOAhlXl7rq7uVaIr0r2hn8g25UWfW8 aaFw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HRqhTTqQIUlcMMgIVkp7ccCcXYVsZ1ii+RbyxUqgOdI=; b=H91i4N5NWdAo+PLs2LvDC4g5ICdzWbPS6Cu2fIkBsgzS1rj8bnb2k3RtZMDp53wIw8 V+R6+YtYpyzo81/JfVw8Zr52RpxHe/Kci2X2Vqn7BYD6NFv/oT30R7tsfmZMi2cJxW0m XHOYIQyZPKaUBXr+7zt9+LyBca5LCwASyofeWEY/WBLdT4miUlKSACkdVAnHtsVBWMr8 Qe7pBC5XpFemk4CBPES02xgZvhrfWJgvVaZDTd+C8ArnllawklrDHSc5Jo1ZrHDpoTDT CzbgVlRFcZamcY25U4OU3Txj13uUfWCqLjKJSkwDcjKd2gXMCN3WnE31wHWIV7x+wfGu Rr6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00POgqZUdrZDPP3eVuPzJqmTiOhaSvyrdN7o0hl3HlWEB8dT4rbRDc0cYMytgAwb/sj5l11h18xOKSj0Q== X-Received: by 10.107.34.84 with SMTP id i81mr26748323ioi.180.1480470249653; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:44:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.131.147 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:43:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20161109121030.2f678bea@gumby.homeunix.com> <20161126033259.GA57873@becker.bs.l> <20161126150144.GA65709@becker.bs.l> From: "Jack L." Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:43:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old laptop not able to get enough entropy in FreeBSD 11 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 01:44:10 -0000 Adding FreeBSD stable to see if they can provide some insight on this since it affects everything from 11 and beyond > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Bertram Scharpf > wrote: > >> On Friday, 25. Nov 2016, 20:06:55 -0800, Jack L. wrote: >> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Bertram Scharpf < >> lists@bertram-scharpf.de> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > On Friday, 25. Nov 2016, 18:31:24 -0800, Jack L. wrote: >> > > > >> > I have an old single core AMD Turion ML-37 laptop that has >> nothing >> > > > >> > installed. When I boot it up, the moment it displays login:, >> it hangs >> > > > >> > until i press some random keys. At shutdown, it will hang >> until I >> > > > >> > press keys and it will not move onto the next line of shutdown >> until >> > > > >> > I keep pressing keys. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > If I cat /dev/random > ./dev/null while using the laptop, it >> works >> > > > >> > fine but when nothing is happening, the laptop hangs. Any >> ideas? It's >> > > > >> > running 11.0-STABLE >> > > > > >> > > > > Any ideas on why the laptop would have that behavior in 11? It >> didn't hang >> > > > > at all in 10.3-STABLE >> > > > > >> > > > I just installed 12-CURRENT on the laptop and it also hangs even at >> > > > install/boot/shutdown until I hit keys, then it will move as long >> as I >> > > > continue to hit keys. I also found that if I ping the laptop, it >> will >> > > > respond but in between pings, it will hang. Using FreeBSD 10.3, it >> works >> > > > perfectly fine without any random keypresses. Any ideas? >> > > >> > > I'm convinced this behaviour it worth being analysed. >> > > >> > > Can you gain any knowlegde by calling cat through truss? >> > >> > How should I run that? >> >> Sorry, that was probably too fast. >> >> You could run one of those: >> >> # truss cat /dev/random >/dev/null >> # truss dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null bs=512 count=3 >> >> But they will show just a series of read-write calls until a >> read will hang. The detain presumably occurs in the random >> device. That's kernel stuff. Does anybody have a hint how to >> debug that without influencing the behaviour in question? >> > > So truss cat /dev/random >/dev/null > will keep going and going and going and going > truss dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null bs=512 count=3 > sits there and hangs with no activity until i hit a key, then the dd > happens. > > >> Bertram >> >> >> -- >> Bertram Scharpf >> Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany >> http://www.bertram-scharpf.de >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >> @freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 10:23:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAADEC5DD27 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [78.47.239.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9171F82 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5104DA409 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:23:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CtASU3mFdjUg for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:23:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.27.4.215] (unknown [87.79.34.228]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01C3C4DA408 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:23:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: setting up a FreeBSD access point (hostap, natd) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: From: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:23:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:23:34 -0000 May I come back to my problem. As said, the WLAN itself works, just the nat and pf don't work. Now I'm thinking of using static routes to route the net 192.168 to the re0 interface and traffic from re0 to wlan0. Like this: (Hope the ascii graphics work) FreeBSD as HOSTAP Static routes between wlan0 and re0? +---+ WiFi | | iPhone | | + +---+ | +----+--------+---------+----+ | | 192.168.0.1 | | | | wlan0 | | | | | | | | DHCPD | | | +------------------+ | | FreeBSD-11.0 Box | | hostapd,pf | | +------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | re0 | | | | 172.27.2.119 | | +----+-------+----------+----+ | | 172.27.x.x +-------+---------+ | | | FreeBSD Box | | natd,ipfw | | | +-------+---------+ | | | + Internet Could someone help with setting up the static routes. I once setup up such a thing. It's years ago, don't quite recall, but I used host routing or interface routing, not sure what it was. -- Christoph Am 25.11.2016 um 12:34 schrieb Christoph P.U. Kukulies: > FreeBSD-11.0 RELEASE > > urtwn0: 2> on usbus2 > urtwn0: MAC/BB RTL8188CUS, RF 6052 1T1R > > rc.conf: > > gateway_enable="YES" > hostname="myhostap.somedomain.de" > ifconfig_re0=" inet 172.27.2.119 netmask 255.255.0.0" > defaultrouter="172.27.2.1" > > dhcpd_enable="YES" # dhcpd enabled? > dhcpd_flags="-q" # command option(s) > dhcpd_conf="/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf" # configuration file > dhcpd_ifaces="wlan0" # ethernet interface(s) > dhcpd_withumask="022" # file creation mask > > # I tried using pf but still not sure whether I really need it > > pf_enable="YES" > pf_flags="" > pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" > pflog_enable="YES" > pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd should store the logfile > pflog_flags="" # additional flags for pflogd startup > > hostapd_enable="YES" > wlans_urtwn0="wlan0" > create_args_wlan0="wlanmode hostap" > ifconfig_wlan0="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > /etc/hostapd.conf: > > interface=wlan0 > debug=1 > ctrl_interface=/var/run/hostapd > ctrl_interface_group=wheel > ssid=FREEBSD-HOSTAP > channel=1 > wpa=2 > wpa_passphrase= > wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK > wpa_pairwise=CCMP > > # ifconfig > re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8209b C,LINKSTATE> > ether 00:25:22:8a:ee:6e > inet 172.27.2.1 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 172.27.255.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > options=600003 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > nd6 options=21 > groups: lo > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > ether 80:1f:02:e6:94:f1 > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: running > ssid NETGEAR-AC1335689 channel 1 (2412 MHz 11g) bssid > 80:1f:02:e6:94:f1 > regdomain FCC country US authmode WPA2/802.11i privacy MIXED > deftxkey 2 AES-CCM 2:128-bit AES-CCM 3:128-bit txpower 30 > scanvalid 60 > protmode CTS wme dtimperiod 1 -dfs > groups: wlan > pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33184 > groups: pflog > # > > re0 ist the outbound interface (it still connects to an intranet but > the router to the Internet is 172.27.2.1) > > In this configuration I'm able to connect my iPhone to the WLAN. It > receives an IP (192.168.0.21) > and I can ping 198.168.0.21. > > > Now when I start /sbin/natd -n re0 > > I'm getting > > natd: Unable to create divert socket.: Protocol not supported > > When I add a line in > > > loader.conf: > > ipdivert_load="YES" > > > things get messed. > > > I then can start > > > /sbin/natd -n re0 > > but I then cannot login anymore through re0 from the intranet. Routing > (nat) from wlan0 to re0 doesn't work either. > Could anyone help a bit setting this up correctly? > > > -- > > Christoph > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 10:24:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94E9C5DDDD; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1298105F; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8F33AF79; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:18:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Calculating size of a corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:18:57 -0800 Message-ID: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:24:34 -0000 I just got my first BluRay burner & a ton of blank single-sided BD-R media, so I want to start using these for making backups of most or all of the stuff I have on hard drives, which is a lot. But efficiently splitting up all of my stuff into nice neat little <25GB bundles seems like it might be a bit of tricky problem for two reasons. (See below.) (If I can't find anything off-the-shelf that will do this job for me, then I plan to roll my own, either in Perl or C.) The burning itself is no problem. I plan to use Imgburn. It is well regarded, and it's always worked well for me. The real problem is one that I have arguably created for myself... I never want to have to read multiple burnt optical disks in order to retrieve a single desired file from my backups. So I never want to split any individual input file across multiple backup volumes. Given that small limitation, I am faced with these two modest technical problems: 1) How to perform "bin packing" to get as many files onto each blank BD-R disk as possible without exceeding the 25GB limit. (This "bin packing" is said to be an NP-hard problem, but I'll muddle through this part somehow, even if I end up having my program just try all possible packings. I wasn't in a hurry anyway. :-) 2) How to calculate exactly how much space in the proposed ISO9660+UDF image the files that have so far selected for inclusion will actually occupy. Really, it is just this second problem that I care about at the moment. So, can anybody tell me the magic formula which, when given a set of on-harddisk files and directories, will calculate exactly how big that set of input files/directories will be, once they are all rendered into a single corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? If anybody can tell me how to do this calculation, please proceed. I'd really rather not have to get down on my hands and knees and spend time groveling around in the bowels of the FreeBSD optical disk drivers in order to find this information if I can avoid it. I mean it can't be THAT complex, now can it? Regards, rfg P.S. This whole problem... especially the "bin packing" part... feels like something that somebody else... or maybe a lot of somebody elses... must have already solved a long long long time ago, and probably many times. So maybe I just need to find and resuscitate some of those old solutions. I mean we've been making backups to finite and predictable length tapes for at least 50 years now, and I can't be the first guy to have ever said that I don't want to split files across multiple backup volumes. So where's the off-the-shelf open source freeware to solve the bin packing problem for backup tapes? I'm not proud. I'll just re-use that code, thank you very much. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 11:07:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40EBC5D9C2; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x232.google.com (mail-yw0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A70E17C2; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x232.google.com with SMTP id t125so154910776ywc.1; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 03:07:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DR6SJRYF+V2xOwoWuWwZjyrDFYOYZAnJew+JVGCqGVw=; b=w8VtJICER3bjlMtALhS0Cj7OVaeVJ55oH3nKqE9lqP9boZB+sIfjGiWKuC3syuPT0E 0Fh5GCKTsh3CYlD/flR6yaCeQLQ4hYj7og8h3HWcs0T4+eMRUhrtt/KGKTXWIGqDeky2 R1QnS/kKbLrTQA5o6s9RM5IweKj1WqtzJq8MEv5jdHd5vDx63r5A7yP6zSMKwHY1ixhe pg/odCTOy5tulhZHDndbR6siKH2VP9bAXFA1kUzNkcLLB3MS/J7zTzl+nbBJORR2/Of9 Hfes8lj1IW8zAYNpL/75MgVABUvTid+NeGXynwv4PWnJFG2bzocAMvPy5JVA4F6cLg+D cZYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DR6SJRYF+V2xOwoWuWwZjyrDFYOYZAnJew+JVGCqGVw=; b=Sw6THAEq7FAccFM+OPFsXz1dLRrAzZrNzFhwTbA83SHUJDuVmTG6hGXqRJOAbZypSK 1Kly2uCdGjKJXXnGdkl0/E5G+WLIy9GwIs35VDmFsMwhZE8t0VTHg3gSdIEeBEdOSYbX 8y5WEZVA9XmXXbk5JHD+21U86exHLn4galyjL7Xv+bjP3kWOacMJQZlO9OC6W0G5GS2T G5mR9T29Nt22hJ8uTVVKmViETTK4Vda9f2OIBSXnfu5xQfUIzt9vuYiEd4vD72rfsfay S30aVQGFRnC/5I2Ac2YzjcRl6CHC53cvJxnumMV8jweDrtmsvJFOR2yYBHfuBFqkQgPN fcFw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01+SZdnHKweUS/jMKRHbJYjbu3D8qCYX9UVKaLB6qFn3BbcH+jRVgO4oV3k15GkKtziffXMF0885AP+vw== X-Received: by 10.129.122.136 with SMTP id v130mr35971366ywc.89.1480504019670; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 03:06:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.37.4 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 03:06:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 03:06:59 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Calculating size of a corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:07:00 -0000 On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I just got my first BluRay burner & a ton of blank single-sided BD-R > media, so I want to start using these for making backups of most or > all of the stuff I have on hard drives, which is a lot. But efficiently > splitting up all of my stuff into nice neat little <25GB bundles seems > like it might be a bit of tricky problem for two reasons. (See below.) > > (If I can't find anything off-the-shelf that will do this job for me, > then I plan to roll my own, either in Perl or C.) > > The burning itself is no problem. I plan to use Imgburn. It is well > regarded, and it's always worked well for me. > > The real problem is one that I have arguably created for myself... I > never want to have to read multiple burnt optical disks in order to > retrieve a single desired file from my backups. So I never want to > split any individual input file across multiple backup volumes. > > Given that small limitation, I am faced with these two modest technical > problems: > > 1) How to perform "bin packing" to get as many files onto each blank BD-R > disk as possible without exceeding the 25GB limit. (This "bin packing" is > said to be an NP-hard problem, but I'll muddle through this part somehow, > even if I end up having my program just try all possible packings. I wasn't > in a hurry anyway. :-) > > 2) How to calculate exactly how much space in the proposed ISO9660+UDF > image > the files that have so far selected for inclusion will actually occupy. > > Really, it is just this second problem that I care about at the moment. > > So, can anybody tell me the magic formula which, when given a set of > on-harddisk files and directories, will calculate exactly how big that > set of input files/directories will be, once they are all rendered into > a single corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? > > If anybody can tell me how to do this calculation, please proceed. I'd > really rather not have to get down on my hands and knees and spend time > groveling around in the bowels of the FreeBSD optical disk drivers in > order to find this information if I can avoid it. > > I mean it can't be THAT complex, now can it? > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. This whole problem... especially the "bin packing" part... feels like > something that somebody else... or maybe a lot of somebody elses... must > have already solved a long long long time ago, and probably many times. > So maybe I just need to find and resuscitate some of those old solutions. > I mean we've been making backups to finite and predictable length tapes > for at least 50 years now, and I can't be the first guy to have ever said > that I don't want to split files across multiple backup volumes. So > where's > the off-the-shelf open source freeware to solve the bin packing problem > for backup tapes? I'm not proud. I'll just re-use that code, thank you > very much. > _______________________________________________ > > I think you may know the following pages and their linked pages : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_packing_problem ( Bin packing problem ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_stock_problem ( Cutting stock problem ) <------------------------------------------- This is more relevant for minimum backup media numbers . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Packing_problems ( Category:Packing problems ) Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 13:18:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A81C5D29F for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpiero@rm-rf.it) Received: from ramona.rm-rf.it (ramona.rm-rf.it [149.154.157.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15C81AA5 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpiero@rm-rf.it) Received: from valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it (valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it [192.168.192.1]) by ramona.rm-rf.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB0B2BD for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it (butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it [192.168.192.41]) by valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EFD20F33 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from gpiero (uid 1000) (envelope-from gpiero@rm-rf.it) id 6001af by butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:18:42 +0100 From: Gian Piero Carrubba To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Calculating size of a corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? Message-ID: <20161130131842.bogzzbxpuclpj64p@butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it> References: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161104 (1.7.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:18:46 -0000 * [Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:18:57AM -0800] Ronald F. Guilmette: >1) How to perform "bin packing" to get as many files onto each blank >BD-R disk as possible without exceeding the 25GB limit. (This "bin >packing" is said to be an NP-hard problem, but I'll muddle through this >part somehow, even if I end up having my program just try all possible >packings. I wasn't in a hurry anyway. :-) As you've mentioned Perl, I recall this problem being discussed in Higher Order Perl[0]. Ciao, Gian Piero. [0] http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 14:00:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870EC5DC58 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@bontempi.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 821F11C2B for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@bontempi.net) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24983206D8; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:00:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=fC +jXFZDTITfoci075CFBtg6mVI=; b=NgaysAz8v0DHsc71GoORdR2mV0uoqNmyE1 W4nxcIzJZrgacoGAcbaffisFb7YJefYhqOONH61HVOC5ZmauZGVUeF93F0IUn1Mb xKVrWd1r9hxl/0IBmH9r3G8/MpJj6/scjkRiUtFAtF2Hqk7lQu46inV10xkJIbLh 8ohM76vQs= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 37D82626B6; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:00:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1480514404.2383586.803732273.740B98B8@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Priyadarshan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-d142962a Subject: Re: Calculating size of a corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? In-Reply-To: <20161130131842.bogzzbxpuclpj64p@butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it> References: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20161130131842.bogzzbxpuclpj64p@butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:00:04 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:00:07 -0000 > * [Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:18:57AM -0800] Ronald F. Guilmette: > >1) How to perform "bin packing" to get as many files onto each blank=20 > >BD-R disk as possible without exceeding the 25GB limit. (This "bin=20 > >packing" is said to be an NP-hard problem, but I'll muddle through this= =20 > >part somehow, even if I end up having my program just try all possible=20 > >packings. I wasn't in a hurry anyway. :-) Amanda tries to fully utilize each media, and it allows individual file restores. I believe Amanda can use any discs as =C2=ABvirtual tapes=C2=BB:=20 http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Tapetype_definitions#For_DVD Priyadarshan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 14:24:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864F8C5D600 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm25-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm25-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08B5E1FE4 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1480515718; bh=xVzfaGKzHU+98ZAbyhRuzcRd0bfqAtY7hufP8NxCirs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=U8ytFKqj4vNK4p0MBVJXRB2Yv50DWKdOe6/W5mGqCQJ3bkTDNnJsLLIKcYjMPSJLq+oIpEtmQ4knyGy5L9LdcpRdxl35mw3MqT4EX+2GOP6WuZFhGERQHc1JswCVDJhunq6ig2tbGhR4IaBRdZLUy4CRwEJAGRS1qgaeLYI6z6rQMSj/ryFBfE9AEnKg1FLwcH7PHzdbNk0/jxP/4y7dUXeAQSjqvEPRxMaoOXY05qD2WDuaK4R4hs7jnUtxrTSVb6c7KKE+a+1XR658wAYFZWiwscA8h/sbgyBDYv7OumbNef7NyNADc/lToFy/ZnWZ0tsNRR5eNc123jbrmDlnJQ== Received: from [212.82.98.125] by nm25.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2016 14:21:58 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.110] by tm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2016 14:21:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2016 14:21:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 197009.12714.bm@smtp147.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vJlzF3cVM1lYof6wPgoq9XL736mnL.3GO5VFLa2Bvq0yG5U UGVS8Qh2LiFuYVUa8AfhazZfLHi0lNGSCmdhIyJdZ7Uyg2G_prQgFoI02IrE Za1dEUQEnJm786VNrZ1w6prgOEAj1x8sqs3r0R4V1C1.0rb0TOKQkx.ZptKO Q5ScUACKWR8OZMosdQUM57PBfMbwO2dpGG_Mi68gauACMZerVLtYMQGfXl_c _nQ7h7NsOl7PN2PB3MRObhcFPDEoDegys9tb1R9m9KNUiK.qQ4IMKnjLUENy xiJM7wpRPAb4weqEoG.EINbx74q7aWmmkGq5LmD__xUEeSMEihero48gzZjh J6baVKJy4EIIxQPdPukRObAw1WFm5Pej9545t8TcmN.fOOXER.WHtQ62j5kQ N1qSynlOUxafhX1ZbxOdj_vuZSN1Ak_OT3BUdoAKBNdVhxuKSDoj0fmmNDXt jfOKwBUkayyXwVibH6jzFj5MCsB6v7cyxcytOvGL_j5lER8MeCHNqP4.qdoU AgpBVMF73Qg7x_0okZX35JU5Uqd3zWkpGBHUqdIfx8S8aU2BhZdsgtjNssIR g9e66YOkQ0myZqnfe X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:21:57 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where is Portalfs ? Message-Id: <20161130152157.da3465fccb3787b255da166f@yahoo.es> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:24:35 -0000 Hello: Any one knows where is portalfs? It silently dissapear with FreeBSD10.0 Release. Release notes says nothing about it. It exist in 9.x in /usr/sbin/mount_portalfs. Was it superseded by other/s daemon/s? Thanks --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 16:58:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35492C5DA3B for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger@qxxy.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x236.google.com (mail-ua0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0307716FC for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger@qxxy.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 20so219425689uak.0 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 08:58:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxxy.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vrMXzKBlc2JUEv2CNvvZ9+eKKGuPFMXMTf743wnfkes=; b=dUsjeuLLSy7IpTr78AMVh2oSjnDzHjJ8KKlTfs/fhFLTk3DqjEHsBzPIIy+EzXWghY p6j442hi5sC95UmyB4NuGUR+3EahUMbjc4lvOUEhsP5BtP0hoGA7vFQhxtyzgmcuCbQw 0CtPVxdpXBet+zGLKwSefqJkeGjXQ9Q2CuK6g= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vrMXzKBlc2JUEv2CNvvZ9+eKKGuPFMXMTf743wnfkes=; b=NTwgNMbspxDxAqnvcCpsV8zxr4IUcfhmYHLxkgaSzOH/iIhBkGLfMbjR35YDS7Ugm6 dmL1y4YKHnyHBLNlb0p+DPHzKKL3l69kJr5LiexGkxE/XfXc66lME/1XRP5XcGFugI3T tLeoJXtm9CgQY+5OOdn7l7r0FeZWViJsLMuLrTQl40n1SHnCkqA2+sbkWg52ExFLu3kT xTdc+wlKCcF61SIvNxiGVKigDPaWK+AKaJnciXCsLCq/YQuglvQOz1VBKBwH/LoFGSq9 7qDDJO8MhPlNCDtC6XzJSzKbZopWfhyKMEF+M8LsMTf4sG/b/igf3A+WbEdHQ8dMmAlv 6r3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03jLZRHEGviAyrLhdv6WpescXGKSPno58e5UZVK7vY+sTRZ8bu9eQoTdbDucIjVHUwD6/Y6BQyCBRbupw== X-Received: by 10.159.34.42 with SMTP id 39mr25540263uad.84.1480525089173; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 08:58:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.23.3 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [50.90.149.220] In-Reply-To: <20161130152157.da3465fccb3787b255da166f@yahoo.es> References: <20161130152157.da3465fccb3787b255da166f@yahoo.es> From: Roger Pate Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:57:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Where is Portalfs ? To: Eduardo Morras Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:58:10 -0000 Looks like portalfs was removed in 2013: https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/2teydp/where_is_portal_filesystem_how_do_i_use_it/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 19:47:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A729BC5D77C for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@cbrace.nl) Received: from cbrace.nl (cbrace.nl [149.210.176.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D441BC2 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@cbrace.nl) Received: by mx1 (Postfix, from userid 80) id BCE3544995D; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:37:22 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cbrace.nl; s=mail; t=1480534642; bh=u+EibdJQZoDaDS4dymwydYXW5iHuIyGVfuzi8P2JCuQ=; h=To:Subject:Date:From; b=XZH0Z1oP5I5VdGhLMfpvZ8sq7lWuYDDrtHL8F/IqIV3Xg37XMNfeeKwBWUX8HV/Ks k6guQZyRl2UXj3u0BgkrUJ3QLHpaW9HZ0YBZjpj5uN9fzeAIJDenSQiTIXtLR4SkMM Qc5Z+KL/JbXcOd8Y/CCxRGLDPT6+AEsNVlMD26GU= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: error: Unknown relocation type c4 in PLT X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:rcube.php MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:37:22 +0100 From: mail@cbrace.nl Message-ID: X-Sender: mail@cbrace.nl User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:47:17 -0000 Hi, I'm seeing this error message now with many commands on a VPS running v11: Unknown relocation type c4 in PLT Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks Colin $ uname -rms FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 22:19:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75D6C5E91B for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95D461D8E for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83046216A for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:19:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I3JLYDmToeaK for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57207620D2 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:19:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1480544350; bh=ORiTpuCC/2JToK61vcjx5fQbnDOtWFCT4yJBQwdvenA=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=Nj9fkIhqGWnLa+XzITSjd8v/cJGO/4wzHlVxGrGgwpQlSwIdrqvJf3///X4PAq8D0 3dlEQKThir9W6oKKRGU2J8UXH//Rilo1hNFrpsf6NTssFQOM/JhmbNrQhKTbyLnnNS /XB7SFrPWWAIzE5UAdRwPYeG7wotEA7srYb5/WfsiVYiFlDf29GEEkGBJd5Kd4nbHw 3wBFy0lgC9g4uIn2oZZlXXelo/iOZz9y0bil23/F9U/i4OcsdTTlCcD5TTqgymJT+P L0oLYPZ2HCRGH/4bdVv0PwjOqWA+5x1bzMb2q05Mc/1PSaZIEMkeKJYG1Y0ZBTdOMa 2/t8nBtADUMAg== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:19:10 -0500 Subject: How long does it take to compile PGAdmin3 for PG-9.6? From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:19:20 -0000 I downloaded the port tree and set /etc/make.conf to use PG-9.6 as the default. I then cd'ed into the cd /usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3 and issued the command 'make install clean'. This has been running for 5+ hours now and I am seeing stuff flying by on the console that seems of dubious relevance to PGAdmin. Things like WebCore/rendering/style etc. I have some how triggered a larger rebuild than I intended? How long should PGAdmin3 take on a bhyve vm with these characteristics: sysctl hw.model hw.machine hw.ncpu hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2665 0 @ 2.40GHz hw.machine: amd64 hw.ncpu: 2 sysctl hw.physmem hw.physmem: 4257841152 top last pid: 53061; load averages: 2.06, 2.08, 2.05 up 6+04:38:32 17:18:18 48 processes: 3 running, 45 sleeping CPU: 81.5% user, 0.0% nice, 16.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 2.4% idle Mem: 137M Active, 173M Inact, 3278M Wired, 341M Free ARC: 2502M Total, 1744M MFU, 354M MRU, 309K Anon, 81M Header, 323M Other Swap: 4096M Total, 379M Used, 3717M Free, 9% Inuse ?? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 30 22:33:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8E9C5EDE3 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF0431762 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id c21so351684871ioj.1 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:33:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qyvYlYbQGyoPBZwkOQF8FBBxoKMpz29wfBhQOD4pEGA=; b=JmGhhUjDcXP5MHqjsaERJttFUVzn0ZANaMoXlSJzMVVktoXBoJMDjksY0AmwpwJNe+ GTMc01Z5QEi+KeOtjuw2Y/PFw/3fWZvPOaZvOS/7PQ/gtODTCwGnqJ62Dg4OPEPmqeK7 uftScGhUp/2HsgCrnOISMcAnvrj4fc4DkqItsU1uYJvkoTyR3DI7pswX+5Fk9E6ENfuT Fc9AlUlfu6xHE3T9KvIhgGCkzRgOXuZJyy9XX5P45DYGcgE1fZ4SHODr2LAsOOP+ZMhz L7tV/xTlLqWmrrOcuN/8q1M2eP7DSVxVfJ75LI2GyBgET/xNmj2MK61jyf0vHsNlWJmz xbsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qyvYlYbQGyoPBZwkOQF8FBBxoKMpz29wfBhQOD4pEGA=; b=gG3J1Vu5RuoLTe0lL/SArXSA7HILbubqPC+qaa2UdBlYpigrT2h+I/9z1NjH/2SK3x zHqbOt4GTNtgy04kpuBAxqJy3q/at6d9R7fY+h1mx0KXHHexM/TCKuaJK3GC3cHjhcyI patZvekMQJdDwP/2MzNrdGV0GD8DkUVoEMwivb91uf81QLkd7ppJifWfCIYnhXtb2BaI K825GMs6N5AcoBcaDeNayRAWFu5JqJWGjgEZhDFrJkHBes/4oieiUH0Mv1iu4Ft8oHND 1yHxXPC71I5O3S+YC2kgqqVI4GgfoWPqVTUgOkVt3b7P7PEPVIAP0lq2PY+/rhWcxtjq 59/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC024ypYk8E5sjCeMZxP1+TR7r8ZzP6obmaQVHUk+uHwv2PPsPl6JUaehChsn3g2lZzVR1dNH22FIa7AJ8w== X-Received: by 10.36.178.74 with SMTP id h10mr30474422iti.37.1480545233409; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:33:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.43.10 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:33:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: jungle Boogie Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:33:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How long does it take to compile PGAdmin3 for PG-9.6? To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 22:33:56 -0000 On 30 November 2016 at 14:19, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I then cd'ed into the cd /usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3 Just curious, why? It doesn't look like it has any options to configure: https://www.freshports.org/databases/pgadmin3/ -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 00:13:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D6C5D695 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 00:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@ownmail.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 766EC1287 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 00:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wheelie207@ownmail.net) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258B9207D7 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:13:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ownmail.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=iIzkYiyi9Go+4hJML8gFHlpJ+a0=; b=WlZ5LMJcTpLaDD2vvUqKO S0O56t+o3r0mw84aPtU49MVPUq4HM50FGJcGZO23MtPkrc/fEbiuG6tVPdeT8oti nWv4UNAP9Sqhe+2mFEN2xkrH4Mi3P4PLwGLKZW2w+yeZbxe6w9F65gVfnezmIxGC MCK9Ptrlogoa6fcUy1ITvw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=iIzkYiyi9Go+4hJML8gFHlpJ+ a0=; b=INcJqqBkIMdPjIYy2lmtVm+kxz6RplWuL3S2ny361eitSqwUedHFU3uzs d4Vsm8e783xuFha3VoJ422pDp0BqbiJfC4l/WOojmjsOrE5yWHasvSXSuGyRseqA dQc2lI48BCKHAsfjCySmP5n4cnLBDDnzstT1IR7dhJBoWzLLWA= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 04B3E9EE1D; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:13:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1480551207.552589.804417497.7BA39261@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Harold Hartley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-d142962a Subject: Wifi command Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:13:27 -0700 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:13:29 -0000 I installed free bad 11.0 and it went well even my wifi connection. Now when I login to free bad non-graphical I noticed that i am not connected to the wifi. I have been trying to remember the command to allow me to connect to my wifi. I am having no luck. Can anyone help me out so it bring up to connect to wifi. I use an HP sleekbook and the wifi was connected during the install. -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie207@ownmail.net From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 00:36:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF062C5DD63 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 00:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x231.google.com (mail-ua0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA1CB1BD2 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 00:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 12so231916884uas.2 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:36:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tp7C6Otw84AqZS9MAU47PeiiInS3FpTgPZEa+3S5tr0=; b=BdLMYLmNvOHtt7xonnmxSvbsF7jVXBwGPAvqCtTo9bl+L8q+kMLFJ1rpnN0Falgfjo XM65Sw5PXZaPbH6DNy3aUe8OYBf9gsbZjxd1Sexze3ZO56oi+PM+PrK8aMnuvgAQO4WN cEuT1sWDJsF9zf/WQGNNeHRj/jboTyemUlXzty5+F9a9Jh2i1YfbzjB2ZF6gHyCUjDvw luuT9+cVzWAgZFLX4JzyZg9R2HMOm/r+92zJBn4R/qVnOQykryvM54/WbDi/2ynZgNHe WkBAJX/p2DNxnWjm8E7lt2bNA+FTd5QW3E8E0bVTHh9KIRA8uuuxQjTabGPTdvEDR3mM E16Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tp7C6Otw84AqZS9MAU47PeiiInS3FpTgPZEa+3S5tr0=; b=Dr0TxS1fLGy+D1A4RQUeKRvDbH/PfEfoqNZvcsHNZ1J+LJGKebcONezXnQM2Y89UFE H+d0Vz5LQ2PwQ2iIFrotDmF+l8anzWhXF0ZFKSNDYmpXGlhLU07+HcI5P2N+cgRJUAi+ X+X6/0dJbYeF536eoEHqCr3Au9Li0ZSJeFlmM8MUBObK3mp3E9KskM2cUiduhUZhShXL 3nnkub3WL30zSWXGp0MIH6vdBM4XKFLYSABWnVC3l8P+imc7mKnHgvfhJmf3CI331FSi vV+GrVHINyB+4O6RiPWCfp/h4DreBjg3vOf14Uyumt86YIGM2I0NvXX77tyFLrfffjnt sl8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01u/ZweSfA7W1Fy7nNiutqJvOZEpoByL9Ks9sezUjxLU9C9VBHYjVaP9G0BOpf8g4/w7OVXl487ERCXqg== X-Received: by 10.176.69.144 with SMTP id u16mr27483795uau.127.1480552614883; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:36:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.159.37.142 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:36:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1480551207.552589.804417497.7BA39261@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1480551207.552589.804417497.7BA39261@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Antonio Olivares Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:36:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wifi command To: Harold Hartley Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:36:56 -0000 On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Harold Hartley wrote: > I installed free bad 11.0 and it went well even my wifi connection. > Now when I login to free bad non-graphical I noticed that i am not > connected to the wifi. > I have been trying to remember the command to allow me to connect to my > wifi. > I am having no luck. > > Can anyone help me out so it bring up to connect to wifi. > I use an HP sleekbook and the wifi was connected during the install. > > -- > Harold Hartley > 17632 N. 5th place > Phoenix, AZ 85022 > wheelie207@ownmail.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" When I ran into problems and could not connect, I referred(looked at) the page: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/wireless.html It provided details on how to connect. The devices were setup when the installation was done, which settings were modified and were not saved? Hope this helps, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 02:17:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B47C5EED7 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 02:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143151A84 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 02:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp121-45-17-13.bras1.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.17.13]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2016 12:42:00 +1030 Subject: Re: How long does it take to compile PGAdmin3 for PG-9.6? To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:41:58 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 02:17:29 -0000 On 01/12/2016 08:49, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I downloaded the port tree and set /etc/make.conf to use PG-9.6 as the > default. I then cd'ed into the cd /usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3 and > issued the command 'make install clean'. This has been running for 5+ > hours now and I am seeing stuff flying by on the console that seems of > dubious relevance to PGAdmin. Things like WebCore/rendering/style > etc. Webcore indicates you are building a webkit port - webkit builds are long and use lots of ram - you could be hitting swap at times to slow things down. I have a corei7 with 8GB and poudriere webkit-gtk2 builds take about 1 - 1.5 hours. Once dependencies are in pgadmin should only take about 5 mins. pgadmin3 uses wx-gtk which brings in www/webkit-gtk2 through x11-toolkits/wxgtk30 which has a WEBKIT option that is on by default. 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Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 08:44:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 06:53:41 -0000 Hello all, I have a server with a lot of bridges. When a bridge is created, it's always bridge0 bridge1 etc. Is there a way to either rename it after creation, or create it with a custom name? Kind regards, Coert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 10:14:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFF7C6039F for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 207081E9B for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27488200D9 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:09:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD7520065 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:09:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from macpro.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CB44200D9 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:09:07 +0200 (EET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Heikki Lindholm Subject: macpro1,1 installation Message-ID: <583FF6BE.60104@saunalahti.fi> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:09:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 10:14:28 -0000 Hello list, The FreeBSD 11 installation media appears to have only UEFI (hybrid?) variants for amd64. On some older Macs, including macpro1,1, EFI is 32-bit, which FreeBSD does not support. I'm supposing, when trying to boot the FreeBSD 11 media, the Apple boot manager picks up the EFI part of the CD and eventually fails, because the EFI booter on the CD is 64-bit. I have also tried through different boot managers (refind, grub-efi, grub-pc, plop) in order to get the CD boot in BIOS emulation mode, to no avail. Can I find a FreeBSD 11/amd64 install CD without EFI support somewhere or is there a way to produce such with reasonable effort? I'm not sure what would be the correct channel for asking a question like this. My previous attempt went unanswered here so I'm supposing no one knows about these sorts of things. Regards, Heikki Lindholm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 11:14:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E34C60A9A for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C25D12BB for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id q130so53193923qke.1 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 03:14:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=evidence-eu-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Lk4MyGudO1hwyRBlSIne/Qgqf35JfcGrF6zLaaw5SLA=; b=tel2j6P3eJyEs3NKxA3Yjsz4gRc6iBSt3BSxRl+PNEceND23G94p7GEZ+6/lP0B/nQ oMqcR1xq6euG2fllV9rtBBe071PQ55WNGaqCFNVo9o2iqzzfT2LKgfEc8Mptp4t4Sx91 6rotpAxFENQ+kptrH654pP6P0D7PGNX0l6iutp8TkZCj8p4mBlWQLc0lrZrbsLQp6/fT 2/AHAOzcv7Wq8nahdl9CpLT9oAP/zCbSoc4sStRYM4XEQ0iKetMCrUdmjltFqU//CdW/ D95b7vZuwXXgeHEUisxcdElHc7w1Eia8E4f5Y+U9GzgF0FlMf6xumwQ1gpYyZ2tSTYAe eLiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Lk4MyGudO1hwyRBlSIne/Qgqf35JfcGrF6zLaaw5SLA=; b=Ku+7bnPZ6QOeb8Ea2HaYWrEcFldGfmoniVWx8o/cpXx5g8pewDKKCtjd/SEOaarsFA EMX+yOnX87GAIlBXKkBKlPTrlo2wIdHBItxp+vw8uyX/4OlKH0Y4GTdEMb1BwlGzhNWz UDf3uPvMapfs1y2Bew0qmOKkt+d2GPp3eIh+p48UoAZwl0yLafI/0odoNn63YGSu0Tm1 3bQK9tB8W+UoUn0pz3iSOasmBncx+UVJfa8MpVcOUgnZYUos3T+cTDwXyfPQt8VfX9OE GlMxTS5itqr3zVPl+v62bfxdKGxG5MXSozyH61qZgUDrHSaLBnSLiNG2hOamRl1BzYyy CmHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02lMnqnTbEymBM/HR0YiTKFZ3H5+4gfMKTNrJOosNORQXvj8LG8qe+S/gmrIgBIqm5UKNjAvNboAJjllg== X-Received: by 10.55.123.133 with SMTP id w127mr31368242qkc.298.1480590842010; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 03:14:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.30.52 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 03:13:41 -0800 (PST) From: Stefano Garzarella Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:13:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: How to detect if a disk is an SSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Michele Pes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:14:03 -0000 Hi guys, we are using FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE and we need to check via software if the disk connected to our remote machine is SSD or not. Is there any way (sysctl, etc) to get this information? Thanks! Best Regards, Stefano Garzarella -- Stefano Garzarella Software Engineer email: s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com skype: garzarella Evidence Srl http://www.evidence.eu.com Via Carducci 56 - Localita' Ghezzano 56010 S.Giuliano Terme Pisa - Italy Phone: +39 050 99 11 122 Fax: +39 050 99 10 812 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 11:28:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD43C60FA2 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F126D1961 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1480591690; bh=J9j/Oo38oo4pDZbv6QZn2z7uLx44HOZEKQuii5W+1fo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=XSF46PhUFQ77OI1JBih4YJxiwxS3zHJv2yVcZ6qYlcQizDdPgUe/2++R4LgfBSsKn7AYIYGPeG+ZnSZsl7vLjTg1rlfmUEWhq7z/tuohD55SHXK59ROLJNkFILra8cK99tDgJSDvXKb35EEGvfq2sKecHs56QkofAE6yhgxbHBz9NFKZjsBqcf1fP8QOVJmin2IY7dz1I71lQODISxqPkQFtQJFiiHY3IV6FWFVxQWG9ma8BjV9haOoFf+EnPN7NBT/Ra8ze8M4g7DyVMRL3i98KMvZ+Db5NDlTh3JTTFnXgJGw1YLqZIFK8dJj5OEtmntvGbe8ircifwQPK9pnU+A== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2016 11:28:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.116] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2016 11:25:18 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.125] by tm107.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2016 11:23:17 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.64] by tm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2016 11:23:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2016 11:23:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 482320.72576.bm@omp1001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: Kj81Va8VM1kQFi2thUsd6Z1TdVHROT4UuTZVZ7xLSltSZmbIr8fARjGGMKBaWKn zMProUB1KmoATjcWLMA9S183OAsnk0.aTxIx4Zk1l0KT6U2cGpnpxAcZsZv_ynHLjTLHvciA0fGG f7cpNxm8V0nYN9PYdyQzLixQ75qkUbAk.I01cZEzzP__InsXLiGI91I49hmycwMY8af3h6eBzSWK MvL8XopjFc_hmVuAzB3gj9YQnELLOGPtNH5RVdqZ17bRUt39kR4nOqbz6C2kABYRIG_ajScLStT8 An7EzeKPByLGqifisKBSrpa6ePe.ltVRBG9msnZ5Zsi4C7BuXzvjvaUFR7CSyEO2zIIUKugYCI8D 9yiVA4tKIZxyZuyAQCE8was1.Wg0nFjo_us6V6252fN8pwZRB9ZZDBP5t7ThJjVHAXubNpnUhxKH WVzO.HfvGdImy1A3sZY.n3jXXzi9IR2hWlaJ_9sisLJ91i7D51dYO9UwWXz5PVC43Vknfoxmoogm bxLiqDmErQ3fqBCUIlIYBRcIqdzimnwi4qWPU.mJVZAgBQ0ImoX3IIP5jRcqNM.DTHAJU3UDG.Ch OmeNu Received: from jws700034.mail.ir2.yahoo.com by sendmailws105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:23:17 +0000; 1480591397.100 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:23:10 +0000 (UTC) From: "Alexandre L." Reply-To: "Alexandre L." To: Stefano Garzarella Cc: Michele Pes , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <188111519.7105125.1480591390617@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: How to detect if a disk is an SSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:28:17 -0000 Le Jeudi 1 d=C3=A9cembre 2016 12h14, Stefano Garzarella a =C3=A9crit : Hi guys, we are using FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE and we need to check via software if the disk connected to our remote machine is SSD or not. Is there any way (sysctl, etc) to get this information? Thanks! Best Regards, Stefano Garzarella --=20 Stefano Garzarella Software Engineer email: s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com skype: garzarella Evidence Srl http://www.evidence.eu.com Via Carducci 56 - Localita' Ghezzano 56010 S.Giuliano Terme Pisa - Italy Phone: +39 050 99 11 122 Fax: +39 050 99 10 812 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " Hi Stefano, You can use this command :=20 # camcontrol identify ada0 Then check these lines :=20 media RPM Data Set Management (DSM/TRIM) Regards. Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 11:32:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B77C5F2ED for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@petermann-it.de) Received: from d2ux.org (d2ux.org [5.9.151.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8731D8F for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 11:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@petermann-it.de) Received: from d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CAD2B90FA; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:25:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at d2ux.org Received: from d2ux.org ([10.0.0.4]) by d2ux.org (d2ux.org [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G7_lswcKGuYL; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:25:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from sogo (unknown [10.0.0.5]) by d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A5E2B90F2; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:25:47 +0100 (CET) content-type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" in-reply-to: from: "Matthias Petermann" X-Forward: 127.0.0.1 date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:25:47 +0100 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Michele Pes" to: "Stefano Garzarella" MIME-Version: 1.0 message-id: <935-58400880-ed-6b8b4580@136822448> subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A?= How to detect if a disk is an SSD User-Agent: SOGoMail 3.1.4 content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 11:32:37 -0000 Hello Stefano, one option might be to check the kernel log via % dmesg I would expect some entries like: ada4 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 ada4: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada4: Serial Number S2NRNXAGC00170D ada4: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada4: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) ada4: quirks=3D0x3<4K,NCQ=5FTRIM=5FBROKEN> which includes the model number / name. Feeding this into Google should= provide clarity if it is a SSD or not. Best regards, Matthias Am Donnerstag, Dezember 01, 2016 12:13 CET, Stefano Garzarella schrieb: > Hi guys, > we are using FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE and we need to check via software i= f the > disk connected to our remote machine is SSD or not. > > Is there any way (sysctl, etc) to get this information? > > Thanks! > > Best Regards, > Stefano Garzarella > > -- > Stefano Garzarella > Software Engineer > > email: s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com > skype: garzarella > > Evidence Srl > http://www.evidence.eu.com > Via Carducci 56 - Localita' Ghezzano > 56010 S.Giuliano Terme Pisa - Italy > Phone: +39 050 99 11 122 > Fax: +39 050 99 10 812 > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" -- Matthias Petermann | www.petermann-it.de Innovative IT-L=C3=B6sungen, Systemintegration, FreeBSD/Unix-Support Wildparkring 13, 01458 Ottendorf-Okrilla | Mobil: (0178) 523 42 22 GnuPG: 0x5C3E6D75 | 5930 86EF 7965 2BBA 6572 C3D7 7B1D A3C3 5C3E 6D75 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 12:40:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FBEC5D80F for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukaszgryglicki@o2.pl) Received: from mx-out.tlen.pl (mx-out.tlen.pl [193.222.135.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE3E611C5 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukaszgryglicki@o2.pl) Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.tlen.pl 25612 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2016 13:34:07 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (HELO localhost) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.tlen.pl (WP-SMTPD) with SMTP for ; 1 Dec 2016 13:34:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: GWP-Draft Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:34:02 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?How_to_become_a_developer/commiter_to_FreeBSD?= Message-ID: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> Conversation-Id: m-10101-e4a011aecb7c5318650fe2d0 From: lukaszgryglicki To: =?UTF-8?Q?freebsd-questions=40freebsd=2Eorg?= Content-Return: Original-Recipient: Read-Receipt-To: Return-Receipt-Requested: Registered-Mail-Reply-Requested-By: X-FactoryStamp: H--- X-Originator: 89.78.173.252 X-WP-MailID: 0449d16841fc9f104d507e52ac60c985 X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy Poczty o2 X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000010 [MRP0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 12:40:53 -0000 Hi, I'm a developer, working in my own (one person) company. I live in= Poland and work for USA for 4,5 years already. I've started working a= s developer in 2006 in local companies in Poland. I know C, C++, Python, = Ruby, Ruby on Rails, SQL, and many more computer languages. I want to con= tribute to FreeBSD in my spare time, but not sure who should I contact. I&= #39;m using FreeBSD since about 2000-2001. Best Regards.=0D From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 13:28:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1764C60ED9 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD401DE3 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from host-4-75.office.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17DE62B3B for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/17DE62B3B; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:27:59 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vf2KfcrfSsXcVkaoRBXIpItAwpGCoJaMn" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 13:28:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --vf2KfcrfSsXcVkaoRBXIpItAwpGCoJaMn Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PKKtB9hp0gA1K0dm6gGqfPQvV8r63abnT"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> In-Reply-To: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> --PKKtB9hp0gA1K0dm6gGqfPQvV8r63abnT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/12/01 12:34, lukaszgryglicki wrote: > Hi, I'm a developer, working in my own (one person) company. I > live in Poland and work for USA for 4,5 years already. I've > started working as developer in 2006 in local companies in Poland. > I know C, C++, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, SQL, and many more > computer languages. I want to contribute to FreeBSD in my spare > time, but not sure who should I contact. I'm using FreeBSD since > about 2000-2001. Best Regards. You don't need to enroll anywhere -- anyone can submit patches. The way it usually works is that if you keep submitting patches of good quality and you interact well with other members of the community eventually you'll be offered a commit bit. It's not a particularly /quick/ process to get a commit bit: you'll need to be an active member of the community for months if not years before that happens. So join the IRC channels, contribute on the various mailing lists and above all raise PRs with patches in Bugzilla or open reviews in Phabricator. Go to FreeBSD related conferences (BSDCan, MeetBSD in North America; EuroBSDCon and Fosdem in Europe, others around the world). Don't be put off if reviewers ask you to change things -- that's all part of the normal process and happens to even the most experienced committers. There are actually 3 flavours of commit bit -- ports, doc and src. Volunteering to maintain some ports is a good step towards committer-hood, as is contributing to the documentation. Either of these paths can gain you a commit bit in those areas, and it's then fairly common for a committer in one area to collect one or more of the other flavours of commit bit. 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From: "James B. Byrne" To: "jungle Boogie" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 13:31:57 -0000 On Wed, November 30, 2016 17:33, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 30 November 2016 at 14:19, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions > wrote: >> I then cd'ed into the cd /usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3 > > Just curious, why? It doesn't look like it has any options to > configure: https://www.freshports.org/databases/pgadmin3/ > > Because installing the pkg binary for PGAdmin3 removes PostgreSQl-9.6. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 14:08:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3D7C6061D for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin.randhawa@arm.com) Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.101.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B91F1AA8 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin.randhawa@arm.com) Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.72.51.249]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF34DC14; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 06:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (topaz.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.26.81]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF4A23F24D; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 06:02:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:02:42 +0000 From: robin.randhawa@arm.com To: Anton Yuzhaninov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: skype Message-ID: <20161201140242.t3ue5is7azkgnhsf@topaz.cambridge.arm.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161104 (1.7.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 14:08:12 -0000 Hi Anton. On Sat Nov 26 13:50:31 2016, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: [...] > Synchronization of chat messages with my other skype client doesn't work, > but I don't know is it problem with a FreeBSD client or some other skype > problem. I had the same problem for a long time with my FreeBSD Skype installation and I came across the following tip which worked for me. Perhaps it might help you as well: Type the following into a Skype chat window: /dumpmsnp If you get this: System: MSNP: Connection Data: * Status: LoggedOut .. type the following: /msnp24 .. after which /dumpmsnp should result in: System: MSNP: Connection Data (MSNP24): * Status: LoggedIn You should now see all your chat sessions appear synced. Cheers, Robin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 1 20:52:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E6EC60ACA for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9810613DC for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B485162101; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:52:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KKfPd3N_kltA; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:52:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9A906208A; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:52:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1480625545; bh=D6o0FBmasPVdEdyxZcddsI35ca223LQVGSyuauWfao4=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=AmHVckSKZ3FUaWRL43lrKvV+xfYYqze8GQKPHb1L11+oPcjXyDwAcEyQPWSkqd6XP OPkdKCsg+Fz0SGH6Y4H4pfZ4xkEnMrKdbJgydq9n+p7QnWSnDENXKA0xCjUg0JvRew ZfzjkRBcT1yUiKzo9iWz1qRrmDM52lkolW1Ck4OPhRJgJn0MK6SM6oSmULJ7v1cUDD n9vcpn7woIz+bNKJPdv4ENCkIRsGeUcLEI/LAWIDixRs1Q9uzl4SkA2x/jk2ER3tLx U6qvmuhinZWctskgNxYnsz4rUcjzEQz6NpeD94IPBoRp7Vz9BmsfYzhNv426LAYAuv AlHBSmeg1jvdQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:52:25 -0500 Message-ID: <6516487d4bc959176539c486f724bfb1.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:52:25 -0500 Subject: Re: How long does it take to compile PGAdmin3 for PG-9.6? From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Shane Ambler" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:52:29 -0000 On Wed, November 30, 2016 21:11, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 01/12/2016 08:49, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> I downloaded the port tree and set /etc/make.conf to use PG-9.6 as >> the default. I then cd'ed into the cd /usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3 >> and issued the command 'make install clean'. This has been >> running for 5+ hours now and I am seeing stuff flying by on the >> console that seems of dubious relevance to PGAdmin. Things >> like WebCore/rendering/style etc. > > Webcore indicates you are building a webkit port - webkit builds are > long and use lots of ram - you could be hitting swap at times to slow > things down. I have a corei7 with 8GB and poudriere webkit-gtk2 builds > take about 1 - 1.5 hours. Once dependencies are in pgadmin should only > take about 5 mins. > > pgadmin3 uses wx-gtk which brings in www/webkit-gtk2 through > x11-toolkits/wxgtk30 which has a WEBKIT option that is on by default. > > The pgadmin binary links with libwebkitgtk which I think it uses for > it's built-in doc viewer, so it may fail without it. > The interruptions requesting confirmation of various configuration options did not speed things along either. But, hours later, the build finally did finish, successfully. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Wandersee To: Matthias Petermann Cc: Stefano Garzarella , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michele Pes Subject: Re: How to detect if a disk is an SSD In-reply-to: <935-58400880-ed-6b8b4580@136822448> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 19:23:44 -0600 Message-ID: <861sxrdsyn.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 01:23:47 -0000 Matthias Petermann writes: > Hello Stefano, > > one option might be to check the kernel log via > > % dmesg > > I would expect some entries like: > > ada4 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 > ada4: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > ada4: Serial Number S2NRNXAGC00170D > ada4: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada4: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) > ada4: quirks=0x3<4K,NCQ_TRIM_BROKEN> > > which includes the model number / name. Feeding this into Google should provide clarity if it is a SSD or not. camcontrol(8) can be used for more extensive information, as well: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # camcontrol identify ada0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ pass0: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device pass0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) protocol ATA/ATAPI-9 SATA 3.x device model Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB firmware revision EXT0DB6Q serial number S1DBNSADB01138V WWN 50025388a00b2df3 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 sector size logical 512, physical 512, offset 0 LBA supported 268435455 sectors LBA48 supported 488397168 sectors PIO supported PIO4 DMA supported WDMA2 UDMA6 media RPM non-rotating Feature Support Enabled Value Vendor read ahead yes yes write cache yes yes flush cache yes yes overlap no Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes 32 tags NCQ Queue Management no NCQ Streaming no Receive & Send FPDMA Queued yes SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes yes power management yes yes advanced power management no no automatic acoustic management no no media status notification no no power-up in Standby no no write-read-verify yes no 0/0x0 unload no no general purpose logging yes yes free-fall no no Data Set Management (DSM/TRIM) yes DSM - max 512byte blocks yes 8 DSM - deterministic read no Host Protected Area (HPA) yes no 488397168/488397168 HPA - Security no ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 02:09:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF0AC621B5 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from hz.citrin.ru (hz.citrin.ru [88.198.212.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D921419CE for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin+bsd@citrin.ru) Received: from x220.lan (c-24-60-168-172.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [24.60.168.172]) by hz.citrin.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 935E728A65F for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> From: Anton Yuzhaninov Message-ID: <615e8208-70ca-9ed7-7906-3e301640ceda@citrin.ru> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 21:09:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrin.ru; s=s0; t=1480644557; bh=5n87e3ObyDI2f9HPLjyK7eNn7KboSgnQx0TGlHaKDXU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GCt9QkWMLOuSMU+8QC+v93FHVC+L6KzRNEbs3CH32FlQ/m30JGYftTKQEBz1WjG8bEtOikBvVQjb1CQnecK7gujV61JN5LUf27AH5xXk0Y/PhIqkY/AakQFMaiFU3AgcSYBmy6YtNXyYMxbfkz5r2HDaQRtHMgHDmSJUjg/e37c= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 02:09:23 -0000 On 12/01/16 08:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > So join the IRC channels, contribute on the various mailing lists and > above all raise PRs with patches in Bugzilla or open reviews in > Phabricator. AFAIK registration on the https://reviews.freebsd.org/ (Phabricator) is available only for FreeBSD committers. Other have only read-only access. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 02:42:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D39C62B88 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 719351A6B for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from becker.bs.l ([85.180.9.213]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003 [212.227.15.129]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MHKSt-1cQgAI0y15-00E3eY for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 03:42:45 +0100 Received: from bsch by becker.bs.l with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cCdoB-000IPc-B0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 03:42:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 03:42:43 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20161202024243.GA70440@becker.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ORSKzxzrtATk3BCy5jZhLNEkv9rOo0DXfq8gfwKPxwV1kXCnIET cbIZDkyIAaA/oqQ80Di6zvnt8SLnRsyEi0FvE6f/GO12oOiO/u3Pg6F8rVALbhVTCd8SA4S wXyWyl+26bMLsSaAkOA7R0fFvOQHucDczlkV+iX8rjOXm+C46WkmfbShsIXYoo//BGWHW0B R0V0O9BSj4irf2mHa8thg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:DYBbwJHok7s=:c2kjCPotUyngUXZqQMkebM FWBhKWxBYbNLwUtkFKbUJz0SHDNQhG7j2MNIuZrJJLYO9ypFInvlEMGIAoLjCLgQVBbMFqjUz U6UZ2OtB7MT6DmRzCxD6YdQ6MwSGtmv0joH3w9LTFlY6A9iHOnAMs0KXw0ClU/AA5m9LhtbYn wB5dFgGJyyQh9kLup3eFo55JbOmG/9ZcTvyyB0WAhl6NeZ9/eYQ0yQLYKxMUP3UJ2+LVMW62q 7XZDtPqnTfzwsWIv9izaj7RRO5pogDtuzKh0/+dOCD7DhNgjGSC8gO4l4MO5GlnpbGa5GOGSI kUtXGGOUmml3kRxlu6SEz0AnQKA6bdC8Bdhm0iuG+reRMRhk0jyQR6wKZo21YWjwMu8PFOrb8 SgoXuK+Hj6InFYH5d7SnES5UkIw7bRrOHlF3d9W2adD6Sa4HehNw98ifmBS0+hRfSWDFIo0ve wC1YUpbZ3biT1NoLgf0vMyaC80lGlOgyDKZpiNvsELDisJDiwX2lxRUhbGCiyKNksFA/ts6lZ QU3ZerUOEmPzp3Hq/6WIFiQGX0Rx2aO4fVc/GNOu1LXHWY6sLQXRo1B0FfLgfJMTaUbfa3SS7 j8dM1DNx8EZA7OMlL44cJkajefg3RQTEvpRNQfVz+s52bsDo4VqQKktBiIHQ7UV8HW+g3b0w8 0z+W9KNeRUVR4yOI2lsjSjU3sc3vD1Pn/t38BHJvxrcZAsDw1uKTyKG7mBQkQ6pxDKak= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 02:42:54 -0000 Hi, On Thursday, 01. Dec 2016, 13:34:02 +0100, lukaszgryglicki wrote: > Hi, I'm a developer, working in my own (one person) > company. [...] I want to contribute to FreeBSD in my > spare time, but not sure who should I contact. [...] Don't promise yourself too much. I have problem reports with proposed fixes running for years. I even wrote to the list that I will not report anything more before my running reports will be processed, and nothing happened. As long as you are not part of the core mishpoke they will treat you like a leper. The list likes to discuss about complaints about complaints about spam while inferior operating systems enthrall themselves about abusing standards. That's hard speech and surely exaggerated, but plainly showing good intentions is not what seems to be polled for. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 04:22:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372F4C5E8A8 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 04:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 001CE18AC for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 04:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x231.google.com with SMTP id j65so462606340iof.0 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:22:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aqMkfAfWKSo8Tu/4LIMJ28Yz7PmE7Jx8y/g3ib9n9zM=; b=hu2z0OgmbGeeFRoMskNgueohCRG9IOasg+QGezoozR2BExtBrU4c1AwpvbIgyMMPqp jT4KLUC7ORhAvKsvxJT5U7d18v6P29ovI+myiq/pHgKQ2ftQIv3ggDKG/qiIh88cy8db hfwYoc2mSjNOM2BM3t/NrTiqHOH16GAO+USSqPPDxgpe/ga1nA4Z9O4VQb3inZh0blfP qFSCqqNYwQu3tNIRgcq+Swla7rxZjVkieH957+RBsmDju1AfrUPb5s6WkQXBBphI1oKA L8CRsxqd0mvxsRCRCBs65CoWMBCW3aMMr7xdbE4Naxn3XmpQotHPCaLL5+d0CKRNILH7 MkjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aqMkfAfWKSo8Tu/4LIMJ28Yz7PmE7Jx8y/g3ib9n9zM=; b=VRTvHSZIinF8CL9DS/d8Gmfe9Rj4C5BNzsQ+7WgfhseOqPVW73Dg564wTDs7yk3qRv 5tbIbRuGpyeeMaJmP+RSQrddYPjF2wFkSqxFgY2Ph+bHF8+EQIXj0b/XodCYnECN0gSq o2D8FcTXXWUfcIgjBO2r0agVMTZmGvhSTHPA4LVgAUTzGgNKQLaSp8fPVmgblP/bR+iA cJjFcHAzk0yBoXQbBTJb5goiX0mnEVeRMbRmft57yGUDuq7iViiqZykfVtdstRU7+E/4 IDQvLi3aEwQlI3qU1mDj7F4r5uxyHVNv4TnXFM62aR2UkVQUONLCxiKcOX1Rcuz3sU0B P9TQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01C/mQeKppfgBK5KA13ZdBSf/UDeaBf32Ij+bbm4Uv3VJheOZtceBSE64FQc2kF7AaPOtny4BzXXbmmJg== X-Received: by 10.107.137.101 with SMTP id l98mr33947416iod.215.1480652576385; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:22:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.136.197 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:22:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <615e8208-70ca-9ed7-7906-3e301640ceda@citrin.ru> References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> <615e8208-70ca-9ed7-7906-3e301640ceda@citrin.ru> From: Ben Woods Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 12:22:55 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD To: Anton Yuzhaninov Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 04:22:57 -0000 On 2 December 2016 at 10:09, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On 12/01/16 08:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> So join the IRC channels, contribute on the various mailing lists and >> above all raise PRs with patches in Bugzilla or open reviews in >> Phabricator. >> > > AFAIK registration on the https://reviews.freebsd.org/ (Phabricator) is > available only for FreeBSD committers. Other have only read-only access. This is no longer the case, and anyone can now sign up for a phabricator account, following the instructions here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Phabricator Regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 06:13:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256B1C5EDAE for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 06:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFCAC175A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 06:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.138.100] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCh63-0000Ax-MM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 07:13:23 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id uB26DMBp002002 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:13:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id uB26DMQ5002001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:13:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:13:22 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20161202061322.GB1894@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> <20161202024243.GA70440@becker.bs.l> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20161202024243.GA70440@becker.bs.l> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 06:13:33 -0000 El día Friday, December 02, 2016 a las 03:42:43AM +0100, Bertram Scharpf escribió: > Hi, > > On Thursday, 01. Dec 2016, 13:34:02 +0100, lukaszgryglicki wrote: > > Hi, I'm a developer, working in my own (one person) > > company. [...] I want to contribute to FreeBSD in my > > spare time, but not sure who should I contact. [...] > > Don't promise yourself too much. I have problem reports with > proposed fixes running for years. I even wrote to the list > that I will not report anything more before my running > reports will be processed, and nothing happened. > > As long as you are not part of the core mishpoke they will > treat you like a leper. The list likes to discuss about > complaints about complaints about spam while inferior > operating systems enthrall themselves about abusing > standards. I can not ACK this. I took over maintainer on some abandoned ports, for example head/print/muttprint, because I do need them, and the commiters guided me very well through the update and patch procedure, as well in other cases while hunting crash bugs, for example in editors/libreoffice. Just search in bugzilla if you need more details. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 07:06:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172AC62C1A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from dd36626.kasserver.com (dd36626.kasserver.com [85.13.153.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B2A71F1E for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joneum@bsdproject.de) Received: from phantomias.home.jochen-neumeister.de (p5DC06AE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.192.106.229]) by dd36626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BBE12E00B34 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 08:06:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> <2ab09562-f71f-ebc8-020c-89e57236b7d9@FreeBSD.org> <615e8208-70ca-9ed7-7906-3e301640ceda@citrin.ru> From: Jochen Neumeister Message-ID: <60aed07b-e981-5ad2-5fc1-65dcd7ffc291@bsdproject.de> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 09:06:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 07:06:49 -0000 Am 02.12.2016 um 05:22 schrieb Ben Woods: > On 2 December 2016 at 10:09, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > >> On 12/01/16 08:27, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> So join the IRC channels, contribute on the various mailing lists and >>> above all raise PRs with patches in Bugzilla or open reviews in >>> Phabricator. >>> >> AFAIK registration on the https://reviews.freebsd.org/ (Phabricator) is >> available only for FreeBSD committers. Other have only read-only access. > > This is no longer the case, and anyone can now sign up for a phabricator > account, following the instructions here: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Phabricator > > That is right. I am not a Committer, and i have an Account, and can open Projects Cheers Jochen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 07:48:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C7BC613D7 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com (mail-qk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB7DA1F23 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 07:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.garzarella@evidence.eu.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id n204so271089059qke.2 for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 23:48:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=evidence-eu-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KgsCsBaKls6m5Q2ntZ43NgODpdfVdIWGYTKplr6KiSQ=; b=CWD7NFzgm78Cewag5QBd/Fb7/LsdRF8J1M/iwNc64+c3i0yefckw1o4qe6WhkMqqSr R4a8SUUWCy1J0n0dhI/axSLQ00+ROMEXDCUpy9zdmgrxN0ch+0ivfmyqNwkQJcnbMdeO Kiwr+pG247Egdtv0W9rgfpSK4KmkzlCwnVF5IAN721nV2VaiUUOLwTNxvpDg4PeFcu7x 6CrOvr+ity/JejkH0nJTHVFbTvt5WMZQktB3PFvpJGYMXVUt3BVvy9ZKS0qkEH8pknaS F0XLxNLhj6eXRTHFjiP67Jp8eHGXJFcnir0Fyb3a6FMlXJgz8C+PVyMWNycYvgDvRZgC SP+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KgsCsBaKls6m5Q2ntZ43NgODpdfVdIWGYTKplr6KiSQ=; b=ko9zMBcywUJ6aKfsW0168BiQ3gglRAH0k7fKSR3e8DBvd/KtoUQapwjUmZCZF5n+8Q FLJJtqOx05AAteOpZD4r78XnPj0FKDfmXKxI9altrraPjsNNYPclgHYhMGlay6n5zMS/ GkMko82Nlz1kN2fqNjzMlTojdvAACaNajSdcr09DSBoZpiUeWyODkPcNTCYEywTgB6zZ ahVqmvap5Xk1hmpsTQfByCfd+6nP09634ABuHz6W32P1xyBoy14eSiq694YyOoSY1M3Z 6Nz9vCpnAhJX3mu4AqkVeAZvmFPs22pmwDf03nkzVq53XZR9hM1FsR9IKAoFxSIeMdkc lsVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02hqFA/zmyOa+agLljVE2osfz5vABDP5nmW0Kqbc5burgcYqB7dohFp00fx0M8r77nkj0TU/QfMyty0lA== X-Received: by 10.55.27.36 with SMTP id b36mr6597410qkb.215.1480664896506; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 23:48:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.30.52 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 23:47:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <861sxrdsyn.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> References: <935-58400880-ed-6b8b4580@136822448> <861sxrdsyn.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> From: Stefano Garzarella Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 08:47:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to detect if a disk is an SSD To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" , axelbsd@ymail.com Cc: Matthias Petermann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michele Pes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 07:48:18 -0000 Hi Brandon, Alexandre and Matthias, thank you very much for your answers! I think that camcontrol is the tool that we need. Best Regards, Stefano 2016-12-02 2:23 GMT+01:00 Brandon J. Wandersee : > > Matthias Petermann writes: > > > Hello Stefano, > > > > one option might be to check the kernel log via > > > > % dmesg > > > > I would expect some entries like: > > > > ada4 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 > > ada4: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > > ada4: Serial Number S2NRNXAGC00170D > > ada4: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada4: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) > > ada4: quirks=0x3<4K,NCQ_TRIM_BROKEN> > > > > which includes the model number / name. Feeding this into Google should > provide clarity if it is a SSD or not. > > camcontrol(8) can be used for more extensive information, as well: > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > # camcontrol identify ada0 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > pass0: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > pass0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) > > protocol ATA/ATAPI-9 SATA 3.x > device model Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB > firmware revision EXT0DB6Q > serial number S1DBNSADB01138V > WWN 50025388a00b2df3 > cylinders 16383 > heads 16 > sectors/track 63 > sector size logical 512, physical 512, offset 0 > LBA supported 268435455 sectors > LBA48 supported 488397168 sectors > PIO supported PIO4 > DMA supported WDMA2 UDMA6 > media RPM non-rotating > > Feature Support Enabled Value Vendor > read ahead yes yes > write cache yes yes > flush cache yes yes > overlap no > Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no > Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes 32 tags > NCQ Queue Management no > NCQ Streaming no > Receive & Send FPDMA Queued yes > SMART yes yes > microcode download yes yes > security yes yes > power management yes yes > advanced power management no no > automatic acoustic management no no > media status notification no no > power-up in Standby no no > write-read-verify yes no 0/0x0 > unload no no > general purpose logging yes yes > free-fall no no > Data Set Management (DSM/TRIM) yes > DSM - max 512byte blocks yes 8 > DSM - deterministic read no > Host Protected Area (HPA) yes no 488397168/488397168 > HPA - Security no > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > -- > :: Brandon J. 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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:40:30 +1100 In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Pascal Beyeler References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 08:40:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_367AF395-4AAF-47BC-BAB7-85262D53F18F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 2 Dec. 2016, at 19:35, Pascal Beyeler = wrote: >=20 > Hi everyone, >=20 > I am using the drm-next-4.7 branch to run FreeBSD in a dual head > configuration on a Skylake NUC. It works like a charm. However, I have = to > compile the kernel myself all the time. So, I was wondering when this > branch is going to be merged into CURRENT. Is it also going to make it = into > 11.1? >=20 > Cheers > Pascal Also curious, as I=E2=80=99m in a pretty similar situation (except I = normally run -CURRENT). --=20 Felix Friedlander --Apple-Mail=_367AF395-4AAF-47BC-BAB7-85262D53F18F Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKXzCCBHUw ggNdoAMCAQICEEOXQUtz9dNAT9/4o8H24nQwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwdTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwx FjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKTAnBgNVBAsTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24g QXV0aG9yaXR5MSMwIQYDVQQDExpTdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNjA2MDEy MTI0MDFaFw0xOTA5MDEyMTI0MDFaMEQxHTAbBgNVBAMMFGZlbGl4cGhldzBAZ21haWwuY29tMSMw IQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhRmZWxpeHBoZXcwQGdtYWlsLmNvbTCBmzAQBgcqhkjOPQIBBgUrgQQAIwOB hgAEAd9iFZSiKobJSFRViu+9sLMgg5zUq9CfxF3DZwJ+iH8xzgBlhUPOxe91JdDWvOkglLgyFClD Cm44k80Ix0nct4NZAQRJF/4HNHj/e1CWgVdX1cmaMUVUNJzOmUkDMS5UIUuivc3nDahDMRRetpb6 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016/12/02 02:42, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Don't promise yourself too much. I have problem reports with > proposed fixes running for years. I even wrote to the list > that I will not report anything more before my running > reports will be processed, and nothing happened. I am sorry to hear that. It is something I've experienced myself too -- I once had a patch committed about 4 years after I'd submitted it and completely forgotten all about it in the mean time. Yes, this can be a problem. FreeBSD relies (mostly) on volunteers to do the work, and there is always more work to do than volunteers available. People that step up and propose good quality patches should be welcomed with open arms, but they can also fall through the net quite easily. It helps if you can make friends with the appropriate people online -- enough so that they will respond to gentle prodding about looking at your patches. That really shouldn't be necessary, but it is the way the world is. Please don't feel that you are being specifically ignored. 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To: Felix Friedlander , Pascal Beyeler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:45:35 -0000 On Fri., 2 Dec. 2016 at 4:41 pm, Felix Friedlander wrote: > > On 2 Dec. 2016, at 19:35, Pascal Beyeler > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am using the drm-next-4.7 branch to run FreeBSD in a dual head > > configuration on a Skylake NUC. It works like a charm. However, I have = to > > compile the kernel myself all the time. So, I was wondering when this > > branch is going to be merged into CURRENT. Is it also going to make it > into > > 11.1? > > > > Cheers > > Pascal > > Also curious, as I=E2=80=99m in a pretty similar situation (except I norm= ally run > -CURRENT). > > -- > Felix Friedlander > > This was actually answered on the freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list today: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2016-December/018426.html Regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 16:07:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6057DC63FCA for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3478A12DF for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC0C620D4 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:07:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jjmc5y7HM8df for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4D42620D2 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:07:47 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1480694867; bh=YERCB0SNSGQXMBLLsYFulyHyR0kXo7xJR/aCek9h+4s=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=p4TLx2V1RuUM25gnQQtC0308c2H2I37uKz7YzElf6pNG08hrfNfjS000xNu6YRQBx fRei3Mwb5p6hqLXcmI+L20YcsHbdapN8AH6IS0DjzTiiL9+Mc2lFpef6oXnvajOBbw g4ExpPfgDXpG5DR9tpClgsuP2kQYwhLWUxZHcP2mYUR6GgT7iZT4iSD0E5hqySbUsO TSRDNh10N9Y28L7GChzAXMkqZkKCjkE+fN45ekD96wekKLEJrdfpOFrYshJjC25HVN WtxdJAdUbUDXaA2M0Qb9oWPLzIC163bCbXUQGJ0Z2XhMTI50z5YP5ezc+l6MQ3GxR/ Ejy8cdUbhkOKQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:07:47 -0500 Subject: Where to put PKI keys? From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 16:07:58 -0000 FreeBSD-10.3 & 11.0 We operate a private CA for our firm and its employees. We are also in the process of moving from CentOS to FreeBSD. My experience therefore is mostly RHEL based Linux. On post RHEL-5 based systems PKI certificates and keys are maintained in a central store called '/etc/pki/'. This is sub-divided according to need but the primary place to find things relating to ssl/tls is '/etc/pki/tls/certs/' and '/etc/pki/tls/private/'. FreeBSD seems to follow the principal that packagers themselves will define where their packages' keys and certs are kept. Which is entirely understandable. But I am accustomed to looking in one place for this sort of stuff. I have searched for references to FreeBSD on this subject and have not found much. My question is: Is there a recommended directory structure for FreeBSD pertaining to centralised PKI storage? I realise that I can just create '/etc/pki/tls/' or '/usr/local/etc/pki/tls/' and manage things idiosyncratically, but if their any existing convention covering this then I would like to consider it. I note that '/usr/local/share/certs/' is used for the ca bundle cert chain. Would '/usr/local/share/keys/' be considered an acceptable place for keys? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 17:02:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2277C63804 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4453E14ED for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B330211F for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/4B330211F; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Where to put PKI keys? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <30083442-eb77-18bd-6bf3-1de686775af3@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:02:37 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HpsPVGU4KjCMtdWPlIt11xpVjsKhsqDbd" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:02:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HpsPVGU4KjCMtdWPlIt11xpVjsKhsqDbd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PIFB21ELjjO5HnejMw717Mlogm4Anjh5k"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <30083442-eb77-18bd-6bf3-1de686775af3@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Where to put PKI keys? References: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> --PIFB21ELjjO5HnejMw717Mlogm4Anjh5k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/12/2016 16:07, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > FreeBSD-10.3 & 11.0 >=20 > We operate a private CA for our firm and its employees. We are also > in the process of moving from CentOS to FreeBSD. My experience > therefore is mostly RHEL based Linux. >=20 > On post RHEL-5 based systems PKI certificates and keys are maintained > in a central store called '/etc/pki/'. This is sub-divided according > to need but the primary place to find things relating to ssl/tls is > '/etc/pki/tls/certs/' and '/etc/pki/tls/private/'. >=20 > FreeBSD seems to follow the principal that packagers themselves will > define where their packages' keys and certs are kept. Which is > entirely understandable. But I am accustomed to looking in one place > for this sort of stuff. I have searched for references to FreeBSD on > this subject and have not found much. >=20 > My question is: Is there a recommended directory structure for > FreeBSD pertaining to centralised PKI storage? >=20 > I realise that I can just create '/etc/pki/tls/' or > '/usr/local/etc/pki/tls/' and manage things idiosyncratically, but if > their any existing convention covering this then I would like to > consider it. I note that '/usr/local/share/certs/' is used for the ca > bundle cert chain. Would '/usr/local/share/keys/' be considered an > acceptable place for keys? Your deductions are correct: there is no centrally mandated location for storing keys and certificates. About the closest thing is /usr/local/etc/ssl -- on the basis that is where the ca_root_nss package puts a link to its list of trusted CA certificates. /usr/local/share/certs is intended just as a holding area for the files the package installs; the place where other software should expect to find the CA certificate collection is /usr/local/etc/ssl. Except that to be really effective like that, CA certificates should be added as individual files and there should be a script to create links within that directory based on the certificate checksum. This would make it possible to add local certificates as trusted and still manage the default collection reasonably with pkg(8). Applications will have their own suggested locations for keys and certificates -- for instance sendmail in the base system uses /etc/mail/certs -- but you are at liberty to invent whatever scheme makes sense to you. This is a FreeBSD thing, often summarized in the mantra "tools, not policy." Meaning that it is FreeBSD's role to give you what you need to perform whatever task you want, but it is not FreeBSD's role to force you into doing that task in any particular way. This does mean that you still have some work to do once you've installed an application in order to make it work properly. That's good for advanced users who probably have all sorts of configuration systems all set to generate config files, but not so good for the beginners. So, sure -- if you want to create a centralized /usr/local/etc/pkg/tli directory heirarchy, please go right ahead. 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I think they did the windows compat stuff for some of their projects. I've CC'd luigi. maybe he can help. Nobody here runs it on Windows so we can't really help you. > > On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > >> FreeBSD Team actually include ipfw team, BUT as long as you see ipfw >> included in a version of FreeBSD, then it's been tested and certified as >> "works". That does not mean they also test and ensure it works on Windows >> as M$ continues to change/break things :-) >> >> On 24 November 2016 at 19:33, Srikanth Reddy > > wrote: >> >>> Hi Ernie, >>> Thank you very much. >>> You are right, I was in the assumption that Freebsd team include Ipfw >>> team. >>> Hence wrote the email to this community as I badly need windows 10 >>> support. >>> >>> It will be a great help if you can provide ipfw developer contact >>> information. >>> >>> Thanks and Regards, >>> Srikanth. >>> >>> On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Ernie Luzar >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Srikanth Reddy wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ian Smith >> >>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>> >> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ​Hello All, >>>>> We couldn't find the right piece of code to change to achieve Windows >>> 10 >>>>> compatibility of ipfw. >>>>> Could any one of you can help us on ​this part?since we used ipfw in >>> one >>>>> of my research project its very critical for us to achieve ipfw >>>>> compatibility on windows 10 as it was working fine in windows 7 >>> machines >>>>> without any issues.we are Ok to pay some money ( if that is not going >>> to >>>>> cost so much ) as you need to spend some effort to go though your code >>>>> again. >>>>> >>>>> Buts its our humble request to all of you. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>> Srikanth. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Srikanth. >>>> >>>> I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. What you need is a >>> person >>>> who is experienced in win10 internals not Freebsd. Even though ipfw is >>>> maintained by the freebsd ipfw project does not mean freebsd had >>> anything >>>> to do with making it able to run on win7. A win programmer took the open >>>> source ipfw code and made changes to it so it would run on win7. >>>> >>>> You need to contact that win7 programmer who did that work and ask him >>> it >>>> he is interested in upgrading his work for win10. >>>> >>>> Some suggestions. >>>> >>>> 1. Submit a format proposal to the FreeBSD foundation to fund a project >>> to >>>> perform the desired work. This option is going to take some time. Maybe >>> up >>>> to a year. >>>> >>>> 2. Change your focuses from Freebsd to Microsoft. There are win10 >>>> development forums where you can ask for help and advice. Maybe you can >>>> find the support you want there. >>>> >>>> Good Luck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> mailing >>> list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>> @freebsd.org >>> >>> " >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >> "Oh, the cruft." >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ipfw > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ipfw-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 16:28:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BCCC62A82; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 16:28:43 -0000 =E2=80=8BHi, I am afraid we have not touched the windows version in several years, and other than generic suggestions on checking that you disable signature checks (the kernel module is not signed) and run with admin privileges, we cannot help more. cheers luigi On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 25/11/2016 2:20 PM, Srikanth Reddy wrote: > >> Hi Odhiambo, >> That's clear to me. >> I am not complaining that Ipfw not updated,I am requesting if any one >> could >> please help in achieving ipfw works on Windows 10 that's great help. >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Srikanth. >> > > normally Luigi or one of his crew would have popped up by now. > I think they did the windows compat stuff for some of their projects. > I've CC'd luigi. maybe he can help. > Nobody here runs it on Windows so we can't really help you. > > > >> On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Odhiambo Washington >> wrote: >> >> FreeBSD Team actually include ipfw team, BUT as long as you see ipfw >>> included in a version of FreeBSD, then it's been tested and certified a= s >>> "works". That does not mean they also test and ensure it works on Windo= ws >>> as M$ continues to change/break things :-) >>> >>> On 24 November 2016 at 19:33, Srikanth Reddy < >>> srikanthkumar.net@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ernie, >>>> Thank you very much. >>>> You are right, I was in the assumption that Freebsd team include Ipfw >>>> team. >>>> Hence wrote the email to this community as I badly need windows 10 >>>> support. >>>> >>>> It will be a great help if you can provide ipfw developer contact >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>> Srikanth. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Ernie Luzar >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Srikanth Reddy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ian Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>>> > >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =E2=80=8BHello All, >>>>>> We couldn't find the right piece of code to change to achieve Window= s >>>>>> >>>>> 10 >>>> >>>>> compatibility of ipfw. >>>>>> Could any one of you can help us on =E2=80=8Bthis part?since we used= ipfw in >>>>>> >>>>> one >>>> >>>>> of my research project its very critical for us to achieve ipfw >>>>>> compatibility on windows 10 as it was working fine in windows 7 >>>>>> >>>>> machines >>>> >>>>> without any issues.we are Ok to pay some money ( if that is not going >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>> >>>>> cost so much ) as you need to spend some effort to go though your cod= e >>>>>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Buts its our humble request to all of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>> Srikanth. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hello Srikanth. >>>>> >>>>> I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. What you need is a >>>>> >>>> person >>>> >>>>> who is experienced in win10 internals not Freebsd. Even though ipfw i= s >>>>> maintained by the freebsd ipfw project does not mean freebsd had >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>>> to do with making it able to run on win7. A win programmer took the >>>>> open >>>>> source ipfw code and made changes to it so it would run on win7. >>>>> >>>>> You need to contact that win7 programmer who did that work and ask hi= m >>>>> >>>> it >>>> >>>>> he is interested in upgrading his work for win10. >>>>> >>>>> Some suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Submit a format proposal to the FreeBSD foundation to fund a proje= ct >>>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>> perform the desired work. This option is going to take some time. May= be >>>>> >>>> up >>>> >>>>> to a year. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Change your focuses from Freebsd to Microsoft. There are win10 >>>>> development forums where you can ask for help and advice. Maybe you c= an >>>>> find the support you want there. >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> mailin= g >>>> list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>>> @freebsd.org >>>> >>> ');> >>>> " >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >>> "Oh, the cruft." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ipfw >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ipfw-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ipfw > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ipfw-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 -----------------------------------------+------------------------------- Prof. Luigi RIZZO, rizzo@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL +39-050-2217533 . via Diotisalvi 2 Mobile +39-338-6809875 . 56122 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------------+------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 17:57:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AA2C62D8A for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0581D94; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id A7C35CB8CA5; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:58:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:58:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49315.128.135.52.6.1480701480.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <30083442-eb77-18bd-6bf3-1de686775af3@FreeBSD.org> References: <9b1e8b799dcc4a5ed49ef535e8abde69.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <30083442-eb77-18bd-6bf3-1de686775af3@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:58:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Where to put PKI keys? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:57:38 -0000 On Fri, December 2, 2016 11:02 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 02/12/2016 16:07, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> FreeBSD-10.3 & 11.0 >> >> We operate a private CA for our firm and its employees. We are also >> in the process of moving from CentOS to FreeBSD. My experience >> therefore is mostly RHEL based Linux. >> >> On post RHEL-5 based systems PKI certificates and keys are maintained >> in a central store called '/etc/pki/'. This is sub-divided according >> to need but the primary place to find things relating to ssl/tls is >> '/etc/pki/tls/certs/' and '/etc/pki/tls/private/'. >> >> FreeBSD seems to follow the principal that packagers themselves will >> define where their packages' keys and certs are kept. Which is >> entirely understandable. But I am accustomed to looking in one place >> for this sort of stuff. I have searched for references to FreeBSD on >> this subject and have not found much. >> >> My question is: Is there a recommended directory structure for >> FreeBSD pertaining to centralised PKI storage? >> >> I realise that I can just create '/etc/pki/tls/' or >> '/usr/local/etc/pki/tls/' and manage things idiosyncratically, but if >> their any existing convention covering this then I would like to >> consider it. I note that '/usr/local/share/certs/' is used for the ca >> bundle cert chain. Would '/usr/local/share/keys/' be considered an >> acceptable place for keys? > > Your deductions are correct: there is no centrally mandated location for > storing keys and certificates. About the closest thing is > /usr/local/etc/ssl -- on the basis that is where the ca_root_nss package > puts a link to its list of trusted CA certificates. > /usr/local/share/certs is intended just as a holding area for the files > the package installs; the place where other software should expect to > find the CA certificate collection is /usr/local/etc/ssl. Except that > to be really effective like that, CA certificates should be added as > individual files and there should be a script to create links within > that directory based on the certificate checksum. This would make it > possible to add local certificates as trusted and still manage the > default collection reasonably with pkg(8). > > Applications will have their own suggested locations for keys and > certificates -- for instance sendmail in the base system uses > /etc/mail/certs -- but you are at liberty to invent whatever scheme > makes sense to you. > > This is a FreeBSD thing, often summarized in the mantra "tools, not > policy." Meaning that it is FreeBSD's role to give you what you need to > perform whatever task you want, but it is not FreeBSD's role to force > you into doing that task in any particular way. This does mean that you > still have some work to do once you've installed an application in order > to make it work properly. That's good for advanced users who probably > have all sorts of configuration systems all set to generate config > files, but not so good for the beginners. > > So, sure -- if you want to create a centralized /usr/local/etc/pkg/tli > directory heirarchy, please go right ahead. > Just to add to what Matthew said. I usually place certs into /etc/ssl/certs, and keys into /etc/ssl/private (making sure the last is readable by root only - even though the same is true about keys I place there). Choice of this location forces me to not forget to install ca_root_nss package. But as often I have services requiring certificates running one service per jail, then in these cases I place certificates just into place where config files for that service live, e.g.: /usr/local/etc/apache24 for jail with apache. This decision I made for myself by ruling out an alternative: placing certs some place on host system, and nullfs mounting into jails, as I figured some day I will run some daemon that will not know how to droppriv, so I will have to make key readable for his unprivileged user. I hope, this helps. Valeri > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 18:08:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7136AC63112; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srikanthkumar.net@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x232.google.com (mail-ua0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 250A66C4; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srikanthkumar.net@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x232.google.com with SMTP id b35so288837687uaa.3; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:08:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UROHQAdjxzUMlGk4nfSaxkF+NFTKcSITMXV1SOBFCKU=; b=0m1kPMz2p/GAflHtDYcYFjQObxWtuCAg8cwhdC7oYJGpTsX8k4aSHuI9W7p9+ygXKj uLou8sA+t4A7nspgxgSpchev2itqKVm+yXGuh9A8lm1TsOuXK6HQ1O8srQB5P9AOM+i3 ALmMGOklSNHyWkxZjo8wApz0Rzi8Q6niYVTRi+w3x2pzIiFqsu/HJSPqozzuiORhm3Xc joRs6jNeBt+anQcqlRzgUo0rzmTfFhxR/josSxDPXqCZC28WYPZMAaeybfqeLg+oQ+1u 2XXX8EfcOTCJyLD7QSyjEZqxsAtZgvI2k8cNfZyXEX7XSeq5g3uMRcs6FLedgoqmXRdc eQxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UROHQAdjxzUMlGk4nfSaxkF+NFTKcSITMXV1SOBFCKU=; b=i3VSPsLMutpR2Mw4veKOMK5mjSuvN/Bv0qzFTDImeEnACLDxf8PITpvx3uJ+1PMGRE DkPw3RuM44p4rj2u/KsWqSowNSRh2hldCLnFjClMr+Q+k9Ve2NKk3AaM2B02pOEuN3hK i/gdwNX8JrPVigAgxVdN02W33UrQ1+P2k5EL+ejBPbiF+mcO3LNY1ScjHGy32cl601LQ JpiBACHyOtH9IoBILhzR5AiKXI2Y84SMywDKRWl6vODx1yQd39dlBJGaUAmQXenBM/cY q+89lqW5HnExgkK1zzBBTpkejb4MHPQoS1XflNmNc22W9E6kzAa3gaj438jAcu2NOcdn l6Jw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01wsQ95birxzgFvbOC8HMK/4gzDnxHRXKTcMkFr0sOQ2rEcQxLs63+neLhMStk5kJ0dfblEhW/S8Z4u3A== X-Received: by 10.176.69.211 with SMTP id u77mr33673159uau.0.1480702107172; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:08:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.78.196 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 10:07:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3f6d859e-802e-1274-1410-593f965d4973@freebsd.org> References: <20161029025126.X13445@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <5836EE92.5060506@gmail.com> <3f6d859e-802e-1274-1410-593f965d4973@freebsd.org> From: Srikanth Reddy Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:37:56 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ipfw+dummynet on Windows 10 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Odhiambo Washington , "freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org" , freebsd-questions , Ernie Luzar , Luigi Rizzo X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:22:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:08:28 -0000 Hi Julian, Thank you very much. Best, Srikanth. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 25/11/2016 2:20 PM, Srikanth Reddy wrote: > >> Hi Odhiambo, >> That's clear to me. >> I am not complaining that Ipfw not updated,I am requesting if any one >> could >> please help in achieving ipfw works on Windows 10 that's great help. >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Srikanth. >> > > normally Luigi or one of his crew would have popped up by now. > I think they did the windows compat stuff for some of their projects. > I've CC'd luigi. maybe he can help. > Nobody here runs it on Windows so we can't really help you. > > >> On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Odhiambo Washington >> wrote: >> >> FreeBSD Team actually include ipfw team, BUT as long as you see ipfw >>> included in a version of FreeBSD, then it's been tested and certified a= s >>> "works". That does not mean they also test and ensure it works on Windo= ws >>> as M$ continues to change/break things :-) >>> >>> On 24 November 2016 at 19:33, Srikanth Reddy < >>> srikanthkumar.net@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ernie, >>>> Thank you very much. >>>> You are right, I was in the assumption that Freebsd team include Ipfw >>>> team. >>>> Hence wrote the email to this community as I badly need windows 10 >>>> support. >>>> >>>> It will be a great help if you can provide ipfw developer contact >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>> Srikanth. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2016, Ernie Luzar >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Srikanth Reddy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ian Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =E2=80=8BHello All, >>>>>> We couldn't find the right piece of code to change to achieve Window= s >>>>>> >>>>> 10 >>>> >>>>> compatibility of ipfw. >>>>>> Could any one of you can help us on =E2=80=8Bthis part?since we used= ipfw in >>>>>> >>>>> one >>>> >>>>> of my research project its very critical for us to achieve ipfw >>>>>> compatibility on windows 10 as it was working fine in windows 7 >>>>>> >>>>> machines >>>> >>>>> without any issues.we are Ok to pay some money ( if that is not going >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>> >>>>> cost so much ) as you need to spend some effort to go though your cod= e >>>>>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Buts its our humble request to all of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>> Srikanth. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hello Srikanth. >>>>> >>>>> I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. What you need is a >>>>> >>>> person >>>> >>>>> who is experienced in win10 internals not Freebsd. Even though ipfw i= s >>>>> maintained by the freebsd ipfw project does not mean freebsd had >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>>> to do with making it able to run on win7. A win programmer took the >>>>> open >>>>> source ipfw code and made changes to it so it would run on win7. >>>>> >>>>> You need to contact that win7 programmer who did that work and ask hi= m >>>>> >>>> it >>>> >>>>> he is interested in upgrading his work for win10. >>>>> >>>>> Some suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Submit a format proposal to the FreeBSD foundation to fund a proje= ct >>>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>> perform the desired work. This option is going to take some time. May= be >>>>> >>>> up >>>> >>>>> to a year. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Change your focuses from Freebsd to Microsoft. There are win10 >>>>> development forums where you can ask for help and advice. Maybe you c= an >>>>> find the support you want there. >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> mailin= g >>>> list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe >>>> @freebsd.org >>>> >>> ');> >>>> " >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >>> "Oh, the cruft." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ipfw >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ipfw-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 2 18:26:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CAAC63753 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 173B71017 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id uB2IPujk091024; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ah@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: How to become a developer/commiter to FreeBSD To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86a4bb8b9cda427885036a5025745b80@gwp> <20161202024243.GA70440@becker.bs.l> <20161202061322.GB1894@c720-r292778-amd64> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:25:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161202061322.GB1894@c720-r292778-amd64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:25:57 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:26:09 -0000 On 12/01/16 23:13, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> On Thursday, 01. Dec 2016, 13:34:02 +0100, lukaszgryglicki wrote: >>> Hi, I'm a developer, working in my own (one person) >>> company. [...] I want to contribute to FreeBSD in my >>> spare time, but not sure who should I contact. [...] >> >> Don't promise yourself too much. I have problem reports with >> proposed fixes running for years. I even wrote to the list >> that I will not report anything more before my running >> reports will be processed, and nothing happened. >> >> As long as you are not part of the core mishpoke they will >> treat you like a leper. The list likes to discuss about >> complaints about complaints about spam while inferior >> operating systems enthrall themselves about abusing >> standards. > > I can not ACK this. I took over maintainer on some abandoned ports, for example > head/print/muttprint, because I do need them, and the commiters guided me > very well through the update and patch procedure, as well in other cases > while hunting crash bugs, for example in editors/libreoffice. Just > search in bugzilla if you need more details. Glad to hear that worked for you, but let me offer another data point. For years I have regularly used tools whose default / original source build is gnu-based, such as gimp. I've wanted to help with a number of them for years. In order to do that, one needs to be able to download the current source and modify it for an appropriate build on fbsd. In my experience, that's a non-trivial process. I spent literally days trying to figure out how to do that, including a few pleas on the ports list. I got little help, and finally gave up. I would have happily taken over a couple of ports, but I can't do that if I can't even convert the source to a fbsd build. It seems like this should be an almost automatic process by now, but apparently it isn't. If someone wants to give me some guidance, I'd be happy to try again. It might well be worth the fbsd project's time to make "hand-holding" of potential new port maintainers a primary responsibility for someone. In my case, I'm an ancient geezer who's losing memory cells too fast which is almost certainly part of my problem, but I don't think I'm material for the dumpster quite yet. On 12/02/16 03:28, Matthew Seaman wrote: > I am sorry to hear that. It is something I've experienced myself too -- > I once had a patch committed about 4 years after I'd submitted it and > completely forgotten all about it in the mean time. > > Yes, this can be a problem. FreeBSD relies (mostly) on volunteers to do > the work, and there is always more work to do than volunteers available. > People that step up and propose good quality patches should be welcomed > with open arms, but they can also fall through the net quite easily. It > helps if you can make friends with the appropriate people online -- > enough so that they will respond to gentle prodding about looking at > your patches. That really shouldn't be necessary, but it is the way the > world is. I can't address this too specifically, as I have only offered a few patches. However, for the few I have offered, it has generally been quite a bit less than a year. In other cases I have only been able to identify a problem, rather than offer a patch, because of the above build set-up issue. Unfortunately, that leaves it to a most-likely overloaded other volunteer to prioritize and find time to diagnose and fix. 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Wandersee" , axelbsd@ymail.com, Michele Pes , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Matthias Petermann Subject: Re: How to detect if a disk is an SSD Message-ID: <20161202153008.3cde5833@gecko4> In-Reply-To: References: <935-58400880-ed-6b8b4580@136822448> <861sxrdsyn.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> Reply-To: mfv@bway.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 20:51:40 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 20:30:20 -0000 > On Fri, 2016-12-02 at 08:47 Stefano Garzarella > wrote: > >Hi Brandon, Alexandre and Matthias, >thank you very much for your answers! > >I think that camcontrol is the tool that we need. > >Best Regards, >Stefano > >2016-12-02 2:23 GMT+01:00 Brandon J. Wandersee > : > >> >> Matthias Petermann writes: >> >> > Hello Stefano, >> > >> > one option might be to check the kernel log via >> > >> > % dmesg >> > >> > I would expect some entries like: >> > >> > ada4 at ata0 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 >> > ada4: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x >> > device ada4: Serial Number S2NRNXAGC00170D >> > ada4: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) >> > ada4: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) >> > ada4: quirks=0x3<4K,NCQ_TRIM_BROKEN> >> > >> > which includes the model number / name. Feeding this into Google >> > should >> provide clarity if it is a SSD or not. >> >> camcontrol(8) can be used for more extensive information, as well: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> # camcontrol identify ada0 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> pass0: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device >> pass0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) >> >> protocol ATA/ATAPI-9 SATA 3.x >> device model Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB >> firmware revision EXT0DB6Q >> serial number S1DBNSADB01138V >> WWN 50025388a00b2df3 >> cylinders 16383 >> heads 16 >> sectors/track 63 >> sector size logical 512, physical 512, offset 0 >> LBA supported 268435455 sectors >> LBA48 supported 488397168 sectors >> PIO supported PIO4 >> DMA supported WDMA2 UDMA6 >> media RPM non-rotating >> >> Feature Support Enabled Value >> Vendor read ahead yes yes >> write cache yes yes >> flush cache yes yes >> overlap no >> Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no >> Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes 32 tags >> NCQ Queue Management no >> NCQ Streaming no >> Receive & Send FPDMA Queued yes >> SMART yes yes >> microcode download yes yes >> security yes yes >> power management yes yes >> advanced power management no no >> automatic acoustic management no no >> media status notification no no >> power-up in Standby no no >> write-read-verify yes no 0/0x0 >> unload no no >> general purpose logging yes yes >> free-fall no no >> Data Set Management (DSM/TRIM) yes >> DSM - max 512byte blocks yes 8 >> DSM - deterministic read no >> Host Protected Area (HPA) yes no 488397168/488397168 >> HPA - Security no >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> -- >> :: Brandon J. Wandersee >> :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com >> :: -------------------------------------------------- >> :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' >> :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- >> > > > Hello, Another source of detailed information about a drive and its status is the port sysutils/smartmontools. Cheers ... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 01:27:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9400DC62291 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 01:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@stankevitz.com) Received: from mango.stankevitz.com (mango.stankevitz.com [208.79.93.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA413C5 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 01:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@stankevitz.com) Received: from Chriss-MacBook-Pro.local (209-203-101-124.static.twtelecom.net [209.203.101.124]) by mango.stankevitz.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81904709E4 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:20:42 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Stankevitz Subject: ZFS resilvering drive on an ONLINE and healthy pool To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:20:41 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 01:27:41 -0000 Hello, I recently imported an 11 drive RAIDZ3 pool. For some reason, one of the disks was unavailable (let's assume I didn't have it fully seated when I inserted it). Upon import, the pool was degraded with a missing disk (as expected). I exported the pool within ~10 seconds of importing it. Nothing should have attempted to read or write to the pool except for zfs itself. Actually all ZFS filesystem in the pool are readonly (it is used for backup). I reseated the drive and imported again. Now I see the status below. Note that: 1. The pool is ONLINE 2. All 11 drives are ONLINE 3. Apparently a resilver is in progress 4. The resilver is progressing at "1/s" (whatever that means). Can anyone tell me what is going on? I assume that a mini-resilver took place because one of the drives was unavailable for ~10 seconds, but I would imaging that this would have completed rather quickly. Thank you, Chris === root@silver:/agp0/admin/scripts # zpool status agb0 pool: agb0 state: ONLINE status: One or more devices is currently being resilvered. The pool will continue to function, possibly in a degraded state. action: Wait for the resilver to complete. scan: resilver in progress since Sat Dec 3 00:06:38 2016 1 scanned out of 15.3T at 1/s, (scan is slow, no estimated time) 0 resilvered, 0.00% done config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM agb0 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz3-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0H9R07Y ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0H1PWSJ ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K7CPYA ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K59SFW ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K458X4 ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K43H7R ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K6STAC ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K4ZH7A ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K6KWMT ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K75F6V ONLINE 0 0 0 diskid/DISK-%20%20%20%20%20WD-WMC4N0K58HHT ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors root@silver:/agp0/admin/scripts # From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 07:43:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54299C64F1E for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C191FA6 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C649B4725A for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 02:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uB37hDKv081401 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 02:43:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uB37hD85081398 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 02:43:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 02:43:13 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can't ping in jail Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Dec 2016 02:43:13 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 07:43:15 -0000 This is a 9.3-RELEASE-p49 system. In the jail: gaia:~> sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets security.jail.allow_raw_sockets: 1 gaia:~> ifconfig em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=4219b ether c8:9c:dc:eb:ab:fb inet 192.168.2.110 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.2.110 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 and as root gaia:/home/doug# ping -c 2 192.168.2.102 PING 192.168.2.102 (192.168.2.102): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ^C --- 192.168.2.102 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss ctrl-c is required to end the command. This is without a loopback defined. If I define the loopback I can ping 127.0.0.1 but nothing else. What am I missing? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 09:52:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83A9C624D9 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holin@iki.fi) Received: from vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DDD8AC7 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holin@iki.fi) Received: from vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C2720072 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:52:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs22.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094082006D for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:52:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFD9C200FC for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:52:20 +0200 (EET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Heikki Lindholm Subject: make release / release.sh duration Message-ID: <58cb0225-65b1-f929-26f5-e1c50074850a@iki.fi> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:52:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:52:32 -0000 How long is make release / release.sh supposed to take? I have one 2.5 GHz Xeon core with 4 GB RAM dedicated to a VM running the task on an SSD. FreeBSD 11 / amd64, of course. It's been running for more than 24 hours now and I'm not sure it's making any progress as similar passages seem to be repeating over and over again. f.ex. I've seen these more than once: ===> lib/clang (all) ===> lib/clang/llvm (all) ... -- Heikki Lindholm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 15:23:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C16BC644B5 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s36.hotmail.com [65.55.90.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D682418E8 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR02-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.90.201]) by SNT004-OMC4S36.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:23:49 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=3mRVUQMCDQZ3D1E3/w0EYvc5bdu5Ozj/Dm2lkccEu2E=; b=KAwje4RyR/pdFZvBV/8v176PPuuSPHm4eMmJRuAxrhY+0qHKWDJ8MzlKSDWfTsHckUd0UP7PUzmziutBb0eFMTBCex0BZHVo0+q4BHH1RhTvtAEk9tmu0tTFLohJjvUisWWTE7/L7BmlVD45Id3Tp33FQ2+4vx4yTO9D7JclLBe0oXf+Ae0Fn9qMftsGMb0zi+G+sNa1Ga1qUfsi1V7sck8Blv9UUv7O9TaHvKypqB1YD4upwkwwsjRsXKkfbpLvm3q+I4qhN3P1zCpIYv5s+Kg0zuYWwHvUkCJ7ALxaKfTWEhRw8AVK/szus5R6RHY+MgdJ/JQtoPWB3lPB4Zqp9g== Received: from HE1EUR02FT061.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.10.59) by HE1EUR02HT063.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.10.194) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.734.4; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:23:47 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.152.10.57) by HE1EUR02FT061.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.11.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.761.6 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:23:47 +0000 Received: from VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) by VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.162.28]) with mapi id 15.01.0747.018; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:23:47 +0000 From: Manish Jain To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: How to find out size of graphics card ? Thread-Topic: How to find out size of graphics card ? 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Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6261616F2 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uB3GEqBA036196 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uB3GEpE0036193; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:51 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David I Noel cc: Ralf Mardorf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:14:52 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:14:54 -0000 On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, David I Noel wrote: >> Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal >> browsers. > > A forum <=> list interface could solve that problem, no? I want to apologize, as mentioning the forums was not meant to be a suggestion to switch to them, but to point out that current computer users mostly use the web rather than mailing lists. A web interface to the mailing lists would be fine, provided it is usable. The volume of posts to -questions from new users has not been very high for years. To me, that does not seem like a compelling reason to keep the list open to posting without subscription. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 16:17:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0E0C65723 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA9A51820 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uB3GHRGn036767 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:17:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uB3GHRjH036764; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:17:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:17:27 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David I Noel cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> <20161129094958.10e7a931@archlinux.localdomain> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:17:27 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:17:29 -0000 On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, David I Noel wrote: > I hope we can at least agree on one thing--that however many people > take one side or the other (though I'm not really sure how many > "sides" there are here), this entire conversation is fairly pointless > as nothing is going to change. > > We are not the "deciders". Project decisions get made behind walled > gardens by an anointed few offline, or on lists that a select group > have access to, and no one on the outside has any insight into, or say > in the process. Unless maybe you donate lots of money. That type of decision could be made by core, but there is a dogma with some aspects of the project that is difficult to overcome. "Historically, we have always done it this way, therefore that is the way it must always be done." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 16:20:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D9BC65828 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA2D0193A for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uB3GKNd0037458 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:20:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uB3GKMSQ037455; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:20:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:20:22 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Gian Piero Carrubba cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Calculating size of a corresponding ISO9660+UDF image? In-Reply-To: <20161130131842.bogzzbxpuclpj64p@butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it> Message-ID: References: <25788.1480501137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20161130131842.bogzzbxpuclpj64p@butterfly.fdc.rm-rf.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Dec 2016 09:20:23 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:20:25 -0000 On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Gian Piero Carrubba wrote: > * [Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:18:57AM -0800] Ronald F. Guilmette: >> 1) How to perform "bin packing" to get as many files onto each blank BD-R >> disk as possible without exceeding the 25GB limit. (This "bin packing" is >> said to be an NP-hard problem, but I'll muddle through this part somehow, >> even if I end up having my program just try all possible packings. I wasn't >> in a hurry anyway. :-) > > As you've mentioned Perl, I recall this problem being discussed in Higher > Order Perl[0]. There are at least two Perl modules that do the "knapsack" algorithm. I looked at them for this type of problem, and settled on using Algorithm::BinPack, available in ports as devel/p5-Algorithm-BinPack. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 16:54:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDFCC652E2 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64004F31 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-44-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.44.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E48F42773F; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 17:54:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uB3Gs3Hg001996; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 17:54:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 17:54:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam Message-Id: <20161203175403.d51cba9f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 16:54:13 -0000 On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:51 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, David I Noel wrote: > > >> Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal > >> browsers. > > > > A forum <=> list interface could solve that problem, no? > > I want to apologize, as mentioning the forums was not meant to be a > suggestion to switch to them, but to point out that current computer > users mostly use the web rather than mailing lists. A web interface to > the mailing lists would be fine, provided it is usable. Wouldn't a web mailer be a possible solution here? It enables the user to "stay on the web" / to "e-mail in Firefox" and still benefit from the features unique to mailing lists? ;-) > The volume of posts to -questions from new users has not been very high > for years. To me, that does not seem like a compelling reason to keep > the list open to posting without subscription. That is a quite valid point of view. New users might be fully comfortable with registering for a subscription-only mailing list as they already are used to register for "everything" they use... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 22:35:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EDEC6457E for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 22:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from ns.mahan.org (23-24-207-145-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [23.24.207.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE4A4187F for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 22:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from Cone-of-Silence.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.mahan.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id uB41e2wS066902 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 17:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: Patrick Mahan Subject: Looking for some direction Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 14:35:22 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:35:24 -0000 All, I am buying an arduino board to do some hobbyist stuff in robotics and other real-time control (sound, audio, etc). I see that there are multiple arduino ports in the ports tree, but I don't see a mailing list for arduino directly and what I have seen via google-fu seems to be a few years out of date. Is there a group of tinkers inside the FreeBSD community who are currently playing with the latest arduino platforms? Thanks, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 3 23:10:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A675C652CA for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 23:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9D99AA for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 23:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A25B47E76 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 18:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uB3NACTA060380 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 18:10:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uB3NACHK060377 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2016 18:10:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 18:10:11 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't ping in jail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Dec 2016 18:10:12 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 23:10:14 -0000 On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, doug wrote: > This is a 9.3-RELEASE-p49 system. In the jail: > > gaia:~> sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets > security.jail.allow_raw_sockets: 1 > > gaia:~> ifconfig > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=4219b > ether c8:9c:dc:eb:ab:fb > inet 192.168.2.110 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.2.110 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > options=600003 > > and as root > > gaia:/home/doug# ping -c 2 192.168.2.102 > PING 192.168.2.102 (192.168.2.102): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ^C > --- 192.168.2.102 ping statistics --- > 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss > > ctrl-c is required to end the command. This is without a loopback defined. If > I define the loopback I can ping 127.0.0.1 but nothing else. What am I > missing? Okay after lots of reading: handbook, man pages, wiki's, and google (I did RTFM) I an pretty sure I have a routing issue and that security.jail.allow_raw_sockets works. That said, I give up. The host was getting its IP via DHCP so I changed that, defined the host as a gateway, did what I know how to so with netmasks and set all the sysctl's that seemed remotely related to this in the host. At the end of the day virtually all combinations of the aforementioned allow the jail to ping its own IP and localhost. Now moving on to stuff that pays the rent. Any thoughts welcomed though.