From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Tue Feb 2 02:29:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D559A977B8 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 02:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demian.fc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22b.google.com (mail-vk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BFA711C0 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 02:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demian.fc@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id e6so88412315vkh.2 for ; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 18:29:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5ew5soJSHVEq7TojsqbYM7J+dUsHK/72pcGMOYQpXdg=; b=Jjign8GIg7prgr/9YQf4pHcPwbt9Hpwy/mBfsS10Ymer0lZ0njjhPd4zEDvRh14G7e RnklBoUB8LqOI/9DOixVYLGnHM5UqM/Tb2jDHTsQkE7+nWJS9U7k5dCNcbBz2+Qvcdbd iPFU9LE9mP3at3Yl/G1NaPEepuMbUw2gIq/siJdsNUDy6eDBROQVXbg4q8Uz/JuuuVzt 7+vT5grUmHwh0qabf4kVDdFpFBeddQBxZDgyseqljDZ1ATtPLfAFYuiOGNoW2/ZuOy9Z 2i4mm0sOYsPcj8FCd+w09PAUs7SeEanDQPVJyVHRlKD8Bmx4dmoSrp30SKBtcd/DXd8k y9Mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5ew5soJSHVEq7TojsqbYM7J+dUsHK/72pcGMOYQpXdg=; b=f4B6s4U6geDtu9WzOZgzZx1jJ/pPKMRdep7C8T6fu/76UEQrldGZlsxnsxtsh5KosB ibbtLGB3414fHA9GsSvtr2zNg/4s1Ra5UiH7GykRonor4IaynbWDxAH7Dt8YbVPM3gh0 PPVeKgt8+i1Gq7PnUMU/tU676ovT/LUoNsZcfUlVdgrIeY2EYrF7Za6vJqfXs9GiWqPb DltIofMslO56xI+yscwgYFDJj8ejC3EV0LmqvxC6CwcKuo8pT+Aidi2dOCJK5ljnDO00 ECqLxzrXKEPjGQ/BqXTrZNC6REmqKedMKnpQ5UvNcyCxlvaD4ADDiPlr6n5SO5SMA9f6 O4Qg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOT/1wzEkgx6s8+Ov+psEcxwEr1B5omS4nrIFvZh8sbO3TuuacrKtYpo3xm/cZHif++0dEE66DpE1W3/QQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.152.130 with SMTP id a124mr18561128vke.54.1454380152281; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 18:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.149.84 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:29:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 23:29:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Spanish Translation of the FAQ From: Federico Caminiti To: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 02:29:13 -0000 Hi, This mail was originally sent to -doc, but I'm copying it here, since this is where it belongs. I've finally gotten arround to create a spanish translation of the FAQ. There are two things I'd like to point out, though. 1) A few terms/phrases were not so easy to translate me. When in doubt, I tried to remain consistent with my previous translations of the Leap Seconds and NanoBSD articles. This is a list of the translations that were a bit of a problem and what I translated them to. - source tree -> arbol de codigo fuente - release engineering -> ingenieria de lanzamientos - testers -> testers - bleeding-edge -> bleeding-edge - handbook -> manual - strings attached -> restricciones - bug / bug fix -> error / correcci=C3=B3n de errores - production quality -> calidad de producci=C3=B3n - tunable -> variable - resource locks -> primitivas de sincronizaci=C3=B3n - mirror (left untranslated) - unstripped kernel (left untranslated) 2) Some phrases feature wordplays that are impossible to translate into spanish. I translated them anyway, but the result can be confusing IMHO. Examples are: - How cool is FreeBSD? -> Translated as "=C2=BFQue tan fr=C3=ADo es FreeBSD= ?" (In spanish we don't have a distinction between cool as in "not warm" and cool as in "awesome"). - Why is it called FreeBSD? -> I believe this can create confussion because we have two separate terms. Free as in "free beer" translates to "gratis" and free as in "free speech" translates to "libre". I don't know if it is possible to add a small note to the translation to clarify the wordplay, but I think it would help matters. The current translation diff can be seen at: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D5153 . Greetings, From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Tue Feb 2 12:34:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64BEA7673B for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from mta2-2.ox.privateemail.com (mta2-2.ox.privateemail.com [192.64.116.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "privateemail.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ABE2B8B for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (125.Red-83-44-178.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.44.178.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mta2.ox.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4132A600FD; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 07:34:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> Subject: Re: Spanish Translation of the FAQ From: Carlos J Puga Medina To: demian.fc@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 13:34:33 +0100 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hNNXxCJ26eUH4w8a41SP" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 12:34:58 -0000 --=-hNNXxCJ26eUH4w8a41SP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Federico, I'm interested to do a review of the FAQ. So don't hesitate to contact=20 me :)=20 Cheers, --=20 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina PGP fingerprint =3D C60E 9497 5302 793B CC2D BB89 A1F3 5D66 E6D0 5453 --=-hNNXxCJ26eUH4w8a41SP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAABAgAGBQJWsKJZAAoJEKHzXWbm0FRTLFQIAKffIZ0yVJqnzvHJdLMCvlDG oEpOvBwUCQ26I3jbCPJ5+W1YuegGfrrn2U6gqh8pYP+4Zy5BrcJnwK633f5mlK9k nrH8dcaCWcIsuhX3PrvkcgYc5EE2lep/gs7ZhBEfTxaLyIKlRbabyfFtecX07OjF xAxUrarpU9qDTu0QC4i5GK6oQ4vy2IubNK3h9VCrE2KBWQsBQiRwC53JSsjlmpaQ z7QmQm6hFWGdRjoQkZKXOjt4C5WD8DB4ycg5trSclwLTcpiooua+DB2wU1Ntyz9T tDeef8EebQd08kz68mjSfldYDl3heEpxyBQaiN5xbq+lCCMybbclPPdMM9+3x8M= =kkrN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hNNXxCJ26eUH4w8a41SP-- From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Tue Feb 2 18:27:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6D1A998C0 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1098CF63 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u12IRVAU098489 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:27:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u12IRVhp098486; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:27:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:27:31 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POedit freezes after pressing save buttton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 02 Feb 2016 11:27:32 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:27:39 -0000 On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > I use POedit to edit PO file in xfce of my FreeBSD VM > The VM is for translation. Only xfce, xorg, firefox, vim, tmux and chinese > support are installed. > This PO file is from the porters' handbook. Its size is about 1MB. > After I press save button, it freezed. > Luckily I just test the POedit, no translation work is lost. > > Here is the screenshot: > http://i.imgur.com/uT0rf9s.png > > Anyone has the same problem? How to solve it? I just tried it here, with the zh_TW version of the Porter's Handbook. Created a fresh po, entered one translator credit, then saved. No problems. But this machine is amd64 and has lots of memory. Can you give more information on the VM? How much RAM does it have? Does it have any swap space? Is it i386 or amd64? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Tue Feb 2 22:31:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D61A9837A for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 22:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA2D1BEB for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 22:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u12MUtCX060436 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u12MUtwF060433; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:30:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Carlos J Puga Medina cc: demian.fc@gmail.com, freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spanish Translation of the FAQ In-Reply-To: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> Message-ID: References: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:30:55 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:31:00 -0000 On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Carlos J Puga Medina wrote: > Hi Federico, > > I'm interested to do a review of the FAQ. So don't hesitate to contact > me :) You have been added to the review. :) From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Wed Feb 3 11:00:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FA4A993C3 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from relay.ox.registrar-servers.com (relay.ox.registrar-servers.com [199.188.203.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.registrar-servers.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5DA37F6 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpm@fbsd.es) Received: from mta4-2.ox.privateemail.com (mta4-2.ox.privateemail.com [192.64.116.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay.ox.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2257B007B for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 06:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (125.Red-83-44-178.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.44.178.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mta4.ox.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C103A8800F6; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 06:00:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1454497207.1410.4.camel@fbsd.es> Subject: Re: Spanish Translation of the FAQ From: Carlos J Puga Medina To: Warren Block Cc: demian.fc@gmail.com, freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 12:00:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8w4v6nFMzHJioV7xfAsm" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:00:29 -0000 --=-8w4v6nFMzHJioV7xfAsm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2016-02-02 at 15:30 -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2016, Carlos J Puga Medina wrote: >=20 > > Hi Federico, > >=20 > > I'm interested to do a review of the FAQ. So don't hesitate to > > contact > > me :) >=20 > You have been added to the review. :) It's a nice surprise to know that someone is working on this. Thanks Warren :) --=20 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina PGP fingerprint =3D C60E 9497 5302 793B CC2D BB89 A1F3 5D66 E6D0 5453 --=-8w4v6nFMzHJioV7xfAsm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAABAgAGBQJWsd24AAoJEKHzXWbm0FRTKVwH/AwzqclUeyOyJiwlz2DYRswm +iWqGG+kqdVF86IOEzUR9eZaRPqnfjw5tEnOQiZbibzxxpMmXVYhM7HonjDiNq9f hL+URa3D9UrPFppLDp1b/4x+8IWH0uRs2Da0KI+gydn5skd/UxoMaLXaowSo4dzx /AtDSAdH9Cb3YRIc+B/zwjQA7EA47l2Oz547nxScd77OQmuPNdz3o6avsBAseIa/ B2ZRqY0mYfLqyIb2M4mA0Lzmq2bzKZvVbDADtwaQFoBo0cZeqPlRqtPnSMBg3XQy b2BLd074Y/dEEIYKNWvqd2irj5eIK0MjduLVXcKR5EFiS32pXJTnsPORQLT/f1U= =t0FK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8w4v6nFMzHJioV7xfAsm-- From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Wed Feb 3 17:21:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7938A99B7E for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 17:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demian.fc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93B1CD21 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 17:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demian.fc@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id e185so19066557vkb.1 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:21:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/VwEXgy40Gw74aQmbk+eh0S3bbE9wWR6Vty3IIlcf5I=; b=e9RPCzICaEp7d5z4Ncrn+xzBFEexdodJxj7HVa6zmt+VhPULQo2skkR5cFff3hVnJG 1A0zs0m/MMyMUDg6CgHoQCnB2NMPvBSanAeD4TirJ2uP3kK/5QaQvUBeLJdvbJr1Q+sA o+NmrnKWcP0uouT1Uz6GNtTZGaqhmZ6nqVjDDKSWXnducJPfcaY2armx0FbV7h/gNTAL 46pTp2YgKSwrFEIsPsb0aEo4WhE9ZsWnB2775hU+qt2u4yEKRAQjpfgvfngxb3WEb7ec WpQ8mPJkkRoNL4VhmSXuoj75cCGomMmSJctNg2pPQzU/FrA/zMBswC8aXsnwbCXmxN1u rH5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/VwEXgy40Gw74aQmbk+eh0S3bbE9wWR6Vty3IIlcf5I=; b=ZoNBnpaGCcvk0FPI4NRxBAl1Fa8zRZSLgvV2BeiQykXloc22pZNYeuhkyIeh5cpjup wX1mLdoDu3X2xSuvjH3d8Wgz/IjNtUKHbREvvy7dAdvZkRULh6qyq3uQHTSJwbzv/qUH g4TByskQ7waPu0XSjauekIy4aM9Ar7DLT84+8KhKLIK/zXtaL19nszh24G0SnVM/bBwo l0t1uP0tbgmKnbZSyceK6DzbuFyoDnlsCaDwu0IfRSau6xdQRlMaoc4HoDTjwcFZdDDj Q3KVZaePVIGt3CLC3mw7zFYzXsvoGRdGlOsIFgEYBAMPHEKSt7Y2ZZOMLwSTI5+e3sTf rIkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQzAS45K0M/SWYo3pAlt4IG0ncUGGuWZcWNCOj1PsCTt+MItjsfYKcGw9kaYIOHOyokpoBPER7nmzrRNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.129.11 with SMTP id c11mr1873627vkd.52.1454520076417; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.149.84 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:21:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> References: <1454416473.8053.6.camel@fbsd.es> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 14:21:16 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Spanish Translation of the FAQ From: Federico Caminiti To: Carlos J Puga Medina Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:21:18 -0000 2016-02-02 9:34 GMT-03:00 Carlos J Puga Medina : > Hi Federico, > > I'm interested to do a review of the FAQ. So don't hesitate to contact > me :) > > Cheers, > -- > Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina > PGP fingerprint = C60E 9497 5302 793B CC2D BB89 A1F3 5D66 E6D0 5453 > Hi, Feel free to start review the translation. Be sure to take your time, the FAQ is a huge document :). From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Feb 4 16:09:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04099A73687 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C27F1D98 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id g73so97879506ioe.3 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:09:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uThrVw/jxW2QNKCN3p76tYIDJTJHcL2lJvIW5NVu6qs=; b=agdKjO+rOgNcvtQyvJlhSrF7SK8omJt1vlGUp+xPxumCVqDL6gUTjAIMR6PfATSwKa 9errwtGzb8aLBzO6aqb285c+zhLhoOkNmtQtrBxFR5aGA3+pSJ5lrbtUGckb8QCU8Qf2 yiNsGKRZrn66cPYhBZBD4U/VKxPkmNeaf+Gf9npv7VwtMIbbsCsjmpmWWF7STnZ0Rm5k kvzosV6vUI67BhWqHrmmGib0gUpRsqbjtMsvZ7AvY1PtXWHheA0sv/vhD3/eBUu0pRXW pC7NzTuuZXemB3kaP/EPKp7DBvCPKv4KUSglp/noLR/jb60V0D4JlND1pSrllgvnTyfn kkkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uThrVw/jxW2QNKCN3p76tYIDJTJHcL2lJvIW5NVu6qs=; b=Q+R60G4JX2s2F+vXa6vHnDnc4L5Z6ixN/qTjDMXELsHZ5Z5KTWOUYXNFmA60kWJ3xB a2RFCYbKwX6qQItpEVpYMt5ZBeiZLkZTiNFn+S6NNXLvr0Skvc21XXZt1ftf98W41mSD aDGBtUO0CN+QHb87bqBmSmeJ0JcDhA/A8gNR/SXbG3s5LOAr4ESdcrwVHec4TeqkFr7m oTXSDJcUXvI7I6ZtcuJYqp8rc21SDiR1VB/AX1pZZAWsIiiYIzfXlvqsaYwebPwoeacd i7+pE5pmBylAObQiZih4Ea38L9M8PcvukcmiuYmhJq87mEMboGtYwCtOHy7FhcXkO+/o 1ayA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOROTdqTW9iTLfyDUaHURKUYqZJu/lJCfxxekYkn5Y6WV2SQ3m4T/WdTPxuQItmekE2pnl1j/0y6ndZeAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.157.138 with SMTP id g132mr9938742ioe.177.1454602155256; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.156.8 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:09:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 00:09:15 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POedit freezes after pressing save buttton From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:09:16 -0000 My VM has 4gb RAM and 20gb hardisk.I forgot how much swapspace it had. I think it has enough swap space because I installed FreeBSD 10.2 with automatic disk allocation to entire disk space. I deleted that vm and created a new one in order to test the xfce logout menu option but I have not installed xwindow and xfce for that vm yet so I can't test it now. I tested poedit again 30 minute ago on another machine(2008 macbook, FreeBSD 11-CURRENT with xwindow and KDE installed). I make po to create a fresh po file and translate the "FreeBSD Porter's Handbook" to "FreeBSD Porter"(delete several).Then,pressed save button.I got this error message: =E7=84=A1=E6=B3=95=E5=9F=B7=E8=A1=8C=E7=A8=8B=E5=BC=8F=EF=BC=9Amsgfmt -o /d= ev/null -c "/usr/home/raycherng/doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook/zh_TW.temp.po" The Chinese message means "Cannot run:" My poedit version is: poedit-1.8.4_1 Gettext catalogs (.po files) editor 2016-02-03 2:27 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > I use POedit to edit PO file in xfce of my FreeBSD VM >> The VM is for translation. Only xfce, xorg, firefox, vim, tmux and chine= se >> support are installed. >> This PO file is from the porters' handbook. Its size is about 1MB. >> After I press save button, it freezed. >> Luckily I just test the POedit, no translation work is lost. >> >> Here is the screenshot: >> http://i.imgur.com/uT0rf9s.png >> >> Anyone has the same problem? How to solve it? >> > > I just tried it here, with the zh_TW version of the Porter's Handbook. > Created a fresh po, entered one translator credit, then saved. No proble= ms. > > But this machine is amd64 and has lots of memory. Can you give more > information on the VM? How much RAM does it have? Does it have any swap > space? Is it i386 or amd64? > > Thanks! > --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Thu Feb 4 17:09:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9DBA9C308 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 401301E7C for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u14H996h015065 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Feb 2016 10:09:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u14H994N015062; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 10:09:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 10:09:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POedit freezes after pressing save buttton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Feb 2016 10:09:09 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 17:09:17 -0000 On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, RayCherng Yu wrote: > My VM has 4gb RAM and 20gb hardisk.I forgot how much swapspace it had. I think it has enough swap space because I installed FreeBSD 10.2 with automatic disk allocation to entire disk > space. > > > I deleted that vm and created a new one in order to test the xfce logout menu option but I have not installed xwindow and xfce for that vm yet so I can't test it now. > > I tested poedit again 30 minute ago on another machine(2008 macbook, FreeBSD 11-CURRENT with xwindow and KDE installed). I make po to create a fresh po file and translate the "FreeBSD > Porter's Handbook" to "FreeBSD Porter"(delete several).Then,pressed save button.I got this error message: > > 無法執行程式：msgfmt -o /dev/null -c "/usr/home/raycherng/doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook/zh_TW.temp.po" > > The Chinese message means "Cannot run:" > > My poedit version is: > > poedit-1.8.4_1                 Gettext catalogs (.po files) editor It appears to be using msgfmt just to check the output. Is /usr/local/bin/msgfmt present? It is part of the devel/gettext-tools port. Is that port or package installed? From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Sat Feb 6 18:52:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22889AA001B for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 18:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFDFE1A2 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 18:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raycherng@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ig0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id hb3so33777033igb.0 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:52:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ig1gtcvpuitJLg57tHie+TfdEipzdF9d8Jea/s6X6Fo=; b=H8nG1C/NOeWORfuMCdK+GYUjkP9X9iU4012Aw+2/EDb+YLGUEW3gVhTa6h1W9Q+zc+ sBVjWLiKjJv+dNh6Nh2N3W7Zu8ZKWyNlrGtmqVm3DjDPYDPMh85+t1o2NPWeonr49cSm QDpBubhfgsZTjj3VcJtWKOep1HLn9EtN4IhTCadJlSW76QBYDoi9RL4LCq4LMANEmvok OeDER88BivRfQq8UkKCMfAOAwIIg5hoT+ASrEPP9dxbncBbSXVlmwIsONOEGaAF+8B/E 967+HGJi6C2FnKGjH8rUeI+LH+4CxFFisjWjuBwCbs7mYuF88Nr8rSDQVrIA8rYZY5hC sYdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ig1gtcvpuitJLg57tHie+TfdEipzdF9d8Jea/s6X6Fo=; b=VrzSyXVEAp0ag39SshDIpbp23gAEg/lsyMIHGNXB9+BIGmaQvJCZXdi9uWJULKgX6i v+ghaMe9D49n4JSt2pPrYc3Ic/7oZM2v9Ua0p1eyD1bLyiNxf1jAGJGPUDZdehdmsZcT DfBty+uG7HOJ5b9wlDUQUSVR/WFx9Jx2wmriSlTyzICs4q1lojBN4AyUPoB+/6R9Yk0R /RLZgBhcpvWKi+W10ySIzzlNCLSFmOEAPIXcnOS6vEFbgf1MoBuyiwnvCMZkBkyeCalr A62amOjphx96r7zLMt8mlwXZgkGIEwySE7b3EEAx35wHt3tj5cztIqnaREewsGoI5aIY 8cbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTsJdSwJk6slrMJ3rBK3Aeb3MDDkAdkknY8A8hVyevLN/l1aNeajvPgzH52iLm+VeOp1O8G/hdOAozZ+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.124.72 with SMTP id mg8mr15472413igb.22.1454784769323; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.156.8 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 10:52:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 02:52:49 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POedit freezes after pressing save buttton From: RayCherng Yu To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:52:50 -0000 Yes, /usr/local/bin/msgfmt is present. $ls -al /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 73960 1=E6=9C=88 29 13:16 /usr/local/bin/msgfmt gettexts-tools is installed. $pkg info|grep gettext-tools gettext-tools-0.19.6 GNU gettext development and translation tool= s 2016-02-05 1:09 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > My VM has 4gb RAM and 20gb hardisk.I forgot how much swapspace it had. I >> think it has enough swap space because I installed FreeBSD 10.2 with >> automatic disk allocation to entire disk >> space. >> >> >> I deleted that vm and created a new one in order to test the xfce logout >> menu option but I have not installed xwindow and xfce for that vm yet so= I >> can't test it now. >> >> I tested poedit again 30 minute ago on another machine(2008 macbook, >> FreeBSD 11-CURRENT with xwindow and KDE installed). I make po to create = a >> fresh po file and translate the "FreeBSD >> Porter's Handbook" to "FreeBSD Porter"(delete several).Then,pressed save >> button.I got this error message: >> >> =E7=84=A1=E6=B3=95=E5=9F=B7=E8=A1=8C=E7=A8=8B=E5=BC=8F=EF=BC=9Amsgfmt -o= /dev/null -c >> "/usr/home/raycherng/doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook/zh_TW.temp.p= o" >> >> The Chinese message means "Cannot run:" >> >> My poedit version is: >> >> poedit-1.8.4_1 Gettext catalogs (.po files) editor >> > > It appears to be using msgfmt just to check the output. Is > /usr/local/bin/msgfmt present? It is part of the devel/gettext-tools > port. Is that port or package installed? --=20 "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." =E2=80=94 Warren Buffett. From owner-freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Sat Feb 6 23:23:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-translators@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59061A9F5F5 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 23:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39CC11969 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 23:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u16NNgBW005014 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id u16NNgep005011; Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:23:42 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: RayCherng Yu cc: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POedit freezes after pressing save buttton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 06 Feb 2016 16:23:42 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-translators@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Translators List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 23:23:50 -0000 On Sun, 7 Feb 2016, RayCherng Yu wrote: > Yes, /usr/local/bin/msgfmt is present. > > $ls -al /usr/local/bin/msgfmt > -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  73960  1月 29 13:16 /usr/local/bin/msgfmt > > gettexts-tools is installed. > > $pkg info|grep gettext-tools > gettext-tools-0.19.6           GNU gettext development and translation tools Can you run msgfmt manually? msgfmt -o /dev/null -c "/usr/home/raycherng/doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook/zh_TW.po" Maybe this is due to a permissions problem or a security setting? > 2016-02-05 1:09 GMT+08:00 Warren Block : > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, RayCherng Yu wrote: > > My VM has 4gb RAM and 20gb hardisk.I forgot how much swapspace it had. I think it has enough swap space because I installed FreeBSD 10.2 with automatic disk > allocation to entire disk > space. > > > I deleted that vm and created a new one in order to test the xfce logout menu option but I have not installed xwindow and xfce for that vm yet so I can't test it > now. > > I tested poedit again 30 minute ago on another machine(2008 macbook, FreeBSD 11-CURRENT with xwindow and KDE installed). I make po to create a fresh po file and > translate the "FreeBSD > Porter's Handbook" to "FreeBSD Porter"(delete several).Then,pressed save button.I got this error message: > > 無法執行程式：msgfmt -o /dev/null -c "/usr/home/raycherng/doc/zh_TW.UTF-8/books/porters-handbook/zh_TW.temp.po" > > The Chinese message means "Cannot run:" > > My poedit version is: > > poedit-1.8.4_1                 Gettext catalogs (.po files) editor > > > It appears to be using msgfmt just to check the output.  Is /usr/local/bin/msgfmt present?  It is part of the devel/gettext-tools port.  Is that port or package installed? > > > > > -- > "Life is like a snowball. The important thing is finding wet snow and a really long hill." > > "Price is what you pay. Value is what you get." > > "The first rule of Investing is don't lose money; the second rule is don't forget rule #1..." > > "Wall Street is the only place that people ride to work in a Rolls-Royce to get advice from those who take the subway..." > >                                                                                                                — Warren Buffett. > >