From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 00:02:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEFECB07B0 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 186341F27 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3870A621F7; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:43:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nqPrQh-2m9Yq; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 052A762061; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:43:41 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484433822; bh=Yf62Jik1eB4UQJfvdq9axeQvgRv8jfGwGZvEiVMe8ek=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=XGQtVAKvfE0q4WOJTOILte3njGGtzil+mHKG1GEhCtKdhFPPMB3FTzAA+tRGbODLM D+4NOhj4SksRJf5A18iIBDJ+wtfNgSX4xUqpEMMTpBU4amAFNwOIENFAhfcUK2Kfo2 Apwj/mIZwuk8n91CE5I+WX0n0XJrUs8BlAJ4tFz0OzrgSa7lETKNWqfjwOeGa5844u kf1aE/Pu36KNTPDwI+mV8ZAMTDPTGGoiQIF1T8DQ/WTVM0GZwYIaMGGSHKuSBpJzYz EKKqaDMmzaxE5e1gQyBVOI49/NIAytTKgSQfiGzNIRxLtEe9SBiAyStgSyRMIMlTHu ULtyuqULG5Hog== Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:43:42 -0500 Message-ID: <55705001b6bd04e0bb3ee5d358414984.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <8c89bd7186acad75c5e4050da3e90a22.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:43:42 -0500 Subject: Re: pkg management From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Damien Fleuriot" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:02:14 -0000 On Fri, January 13, 2017 19:10, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > James you got anything in make.conf with regards to the PG version you > want to use ? > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/DEFAULT_VERSIONS > Yes, the default version for PostgreSQL is set to 9.6 cat /etc/make.conf DEFAULT_VERSIONS=pgsql=9.6 -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 09:54:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B79ACA4B55 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) Received: from server.whoishostingthismail.com (server.whoishostingthismail.com [104.236.126.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D49617A3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whoishostingthismail.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:From:To:Date:Sender:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ztZy7Hfzz8vOoz2GB9JihlL699sABSedHtBtjUpOkFA=; b=rzlxTCWtjCaFpJNGk9bSVV4+0 SU/lU4agrU6Cf2qKoE/X0y8nlmaHllJfrjPBmnrJIZW/GuaICseW4WTsO/j/rbfxEMx+0ywObBjBf 1WQ37uS52D85y55Hw+P3C7rhS7OYJwS1ziBz+0c9QTf+VdZdEjRMDiWWFM+4+toe4vRPS/pPaYbi0 0owaA3C5i7C4ZfeC1pzBQRj8dpVsCa38q1ItWBBljPmbG0j+dn6Bf/gCv/Yr0La5Y9p7LPymrpdza cFjrRa+1PmcobkBA43DkUkXJ7k6x+urDXvK7idukWix2vp8aPqp/zdQf/UFSPUTV3zCW6zegM8KNb JvUUOk4oA==; Received: from ec2-54-196-36-156.compute-1.amazonaws.com ([54.196.36.156]:43751 helo=whoishostingthismail.com) by server.whoishostingthismail.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cShW2-0006XH-1P for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:54:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:54:21 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Delgado Reply-To: Mike Delgado Subject: Re: One of your pages has a broken link Message-ID: <5689860.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.whoishostingthismail.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - whoishostingthismail.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.whoishostingthismail.com: authenticated_id: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server.whoishostingthismail.com: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:54:29 -0000 Hi, You've had a couple of emails from me recently about a broken link I found on your site, but I didn't hear back from you. Is there someone else I should get in touch with instead? I've included my previous email here: On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I know you're busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day as I noticed the link is still broken. I've included my email below for ease of reference: On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I was on your page - http://freebsd.mirror.solnet.ch/es/ports/science.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. I found it whilst doing some research for our ultimate guide to NetCDF which has just been published and might make a good replacement if you are updating the page. Here's the link - http://wiht.link/NetCDF-resources. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Best, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 12:43:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82F6CAE9FA for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F3681903 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.108.40] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSjdu-0002xE-Nx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:10:38 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v0FCAbO1002952 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:10:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v0FCAbUW002951 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:10:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:10:37 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: games/flightgear && joystick Message-ID: <20170115121037.GA2892@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.108.40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:43:04 -0000 Hello, My son has his own laptop with 11-CURRENT and plays games/flightgear which does as it should using mouse and keyboard. Is there any support for joysticks which are supported by FreeBSD and games/flightgear? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 15:51:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEFECB17E3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.moritz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x244.google.com (mail-lf0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 236821309 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.moritz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x244.google.com with SMTP id h65so10067803lfi.3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:51:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hppYsHsxg+cH7za1cmg4hZF88oZSGGdjJHPAGzEn1XM=; b=HiNaxiCiFYlI6wf15hnFTXxrQYDOGe8wR/oxpd5vdKI/CjxpY8NoD7ppO2NVIq1naI dSL4tMEKmLqJXuFOUe61BjASufW7acTaLQcGqPsqyu0LoxnSpIMkGdoCihYbTRFK9sOq IhQL3F8SEabNO6WjxI+M2CSZmhxr3BrPMfmliI2rABelP545HbpWQ3aax1bHysbIn2rZ ZyUTzoLbb3L0HGztJLlpvAwJEHtgz9G9TrZCRMzS4OfO7O32Qi/5Q2WxXo2POuGV1/dX lvg7Fcjmd2lbspEYapbE8RWuXeuSGpVe3fM1MjtZL0kQR2PhyVq2JuAAKoyVWTEFyLPS tKgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hppYsHsxg+cH7za1cmg4hZF88oZSGGdjJHPAGzEn1XM=; b=fEq2ntbCgFEPPI4vrv7l4EZmjdZA/3XrPY2PGKrWEHb3w5bwxm+e7B6EIceYFm6JnW CkPPDCG5uLgqEvjMOyLcbDG4cwnGd7lDkQ3IMONXSfbchsSPy74bFkLcr+rXl0Kd32Cu e78ZMJ5BcSHiNhSAT7/5PJL6f54EXHRyxS6wr6oWACb2nVnynqyrVivzuO9ZhRfgc1qF GUiVIqfEniPvvCcPL3n01ABSH2OsEpKdMoToVu3N/mQMXl/IgZBjxSRz+qtqzMBIh/pQ ttbo0PwP7ZrOWGR7JuhBpzA1rWK3F4tERMF96bnqpYUtr/O3+WamLTSoqMX7lMzmtTiZ Nnig== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXInRuQpeoO6TX/ObTquP+ix6XqRrLtd8Kv9ENTWNWOTPoPDF7rro50k0uMFB39EMw== X-Received: by 10.25.67.84 with SMTP id m20mr1994678lfj.106.1484495505709; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from blazon-pfbsd.rw.lan ([78.84.248.245]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d16sm6119072lfj.14.2017.01.15.07.51.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:51:45 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Alnis Morics Subject: NFS: "bad exports list line /home/alnis" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:51:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:51:48 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to set up a very basic NFS share on 11.0-RELEASE-p7 but I can't get beyond the error message "bad exports list line /home/alnis". My /etc/exports file only has one line: /home/alnis 10.0.0.5(rw) showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /etc/rc.conf: rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" mountd_enable="YES" I tried to change syntax of the exports file (putting the whole subnet instead of one address, putting hostnames instead of addresses and adding them to /etc/hosts, putting flags, such as -rw or -ro -maproot=nobody before those hostnames); also tried to share a separate filesystem, but nothing helped. So very basic configuration, and still doesn't work. Any ideas? Thanks, -Alnis From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 16:55:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8D7CAFEB3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronkaufman.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x242.google.com (mail-pg0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20C61396 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronkaufman.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x242.google.com with SMTP id 194so3270274pgd.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aaronkaufman-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DlG9M9MhPEx37TjKGw/UvSqlL55MtAynQw8rNoTxSdY=; b=X65oSB+NHGtIHOzzcMjlDMoGhYKX+vprLf8Ht7k2CC18tr7DApwG/A8Uy9NEIEmrob soCg6NrdSXSIvXWZ2VjicPDBTEAkQ0s5LKvQwenyA66VHSEhI27Bc3So6F/fZ/A/zLpO RRdsVm3J5qUbzKN7OAoC7q9HW4ymtpbygGFimjYXc5iZfDP+dVenGCdxh3n2rm4nHHjQ iLz1AM+vQye61rhJHyjfeXl/P3fgzGdoCqI4OICBUWft/x4Jyt/nUp1CzHOBPlBtM34N IQyQ37vktria8EJmoMOOE61jIrBmJJhNkmf8UcgTX3NjymblTbdj8+TAeKvg3tk1jQH3 kx/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DlG9M9MhPEx37TjKGw/UvSqlL55MtAynQw8rNoTxSdY=; b=sOAtsphppL5ED9s+TkJRGSKQX6SPuBV1BRCLkPQdr0fiASNYSHqqME5/i2KOV29r3/ rQinNp7Pk3nCz/sxGLps/DOrfmXK3fjVKViGyXtLhSZDrZh+/2SSdrzsGwliX/CSoh3a 9GM2u21BbSgC/yh4cLDoFeSMubdxZ8mpEnFJuN3dGyEfNY7DjZK2Ij3hDOT1LMxEheGL Zj99vlWMvAbuaw1FIBVjUKn7MKICFByZ2xCynBsTf0VpAPs6u+GILE5c4D81gv+gfU9/ Zdn7CpNDAcOfzgY/yi0dFCTHn7GArjH6qiFqkW+yAOG9HQhGhDPQZylqxrR3jjoYRO9T artw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLNkDcKz2dHOZArFbcd+QmW7HeHYdY5kqf9woB749usNOefRcxb9qF2J0lg78drbA== X-Received: by 10.99.135.195 with SMTP id i186mr12982139pge.105.1484499335068; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.100.67] (cpe-23-240-96-164.socal.res.rr.com. [23.240.96.164]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d128sm24473964pfg.56.2017.01.15.08.55.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:55:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: NFS: "bad exports list line /home/alnis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Aaron Kaufman Message-ID: <88646ea2-fb1c-283c-27a9-8d84f34bd6bf@aaronkaufman.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:55:33 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:55:36 -0000 Alnis, Make sure to use absolute paths when using NFS. If your /home is a symlink to /usr/home make sure to export /usr/home. The export "/home/alnis 10.0.0.5" should mount as rw. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 16:58:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B4CCB104B for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from mail.robroygregg.com (173-13-147-189-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.147.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C58A161A for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from beak.h.net (beak.h.net [192.168.32.10]) by mail.robroygregg.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c09395cf; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:58:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 08:58:45 -0800 (PST) From: Robroy Gregg X-X-Sender: robroy@beak.h.net To: Alnis Morics cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS: "bad exports list line /home/alnis" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:58:53 -0000 Good day Alnis, (I second what Aaron Kaufman just mailed in, and I'll add a few more notes below...) On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Alnis Morics wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a very basic NFS share on 11.0-RELEASE-p7 but I can't > get beyond the error message "bad exports list line /home/alnis". Is your /home a symbolic link to /usr/home? If so, you'll have to export /usr/home/alnis instead of /home/alnis, or use nullfs(5) to make /usr/home appear as /home in a way which keeps the NFS server happy. > My /etc/exports file only has one line: > /home/alnis 10.0.0.5(rw) This (rw) part's the default and ought to be left out. When both /home and /home/alnis are regular directories (not symbolic links) on my computer, this exports line works: /home/alnis 10.0.0.5 And this exports line doesn't work; it yields the "bad exports list line /home/alnis," no matter what: /home/alnis 10.0.0.5(rw) > showmount -e > Exports list on localhost: > > > /etc/rc.conf: > rpcbind_enable="YES" > nfs_server_enable="YES" > mountd_enable="YES" You may wish to add two more NFS server lines to your rc.conf: rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" I don't think this'll have any bearing on your /etc/exports woes, but on the NFS client, it will allow programs which try to lock files to function normally (Firefox used to depend on this working, and maybe still does, for instance). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 17:01:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FFCCB1428 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x241.google.com (mail-ot0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45FAE1A24 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x241.google.com with SMTP id 36so4579841otx.3 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QK5NF7x9GNEYoK6e5khdTgGyFZRDIrpmG2UEtlJpDvc=; b=Zel92GwJCD43XoS2BhJ/xdUv+EbobrMb2nnQ6vmRrcduw0gBBbXZcXco3OypbwRo7+ m3Dzubss65EYlcfxHcBn9KeI7pojXl3cTRr4BfrZAsDLBz3SFRUvzEGNZy6dQXqrswFY riEauAlklUB6sEEu3bf9OhGfs6G6tb7NVB3x59pdwipmHPxzrb5BOmxl9ZheI2CrdUBb iVt8omjlwIx4b+w/wRX0zO577WttLy91qP0w6XFMRInmmcRpCdlO0O9CfrY04Mp5khJl zI2t9itkQ/XHQivYyhYICsjWF1MGRTpDmY7DedY1vFnq2hlwdEtfy7EIIWJsS3alULoT AirA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QK5NF7x9GNEYoK6e5khdTgGyFZRDIrpmG2UEtlJpDvc=; b=UYyb8CbRBVESJbCC2hwl3mGY/DeKPkiPwFNObkC3OEB10TUT/qW1LYWW9H+Lnp8toj Vc8UULH0hkFpNZO0c6jj9ZwlhtdG1JqrEH08stGPz5cJXtXfjvSDhiIxJ8fZ5lCWELk+ +n7Gm4vAqhjzan2qC/ZESLrcbEKmhyKkZviucSy8c7cO6aMiDIjtSUSTM0xOzsZ6faPO FsPxVQTTX4hT7sCDCwYYkgj9+hvL/AtK+oW5RtvLQOCQyY2fckysvWKjEirOviGjZtm8 dOLJZJvJg8NdixpKMqQUfr9ns2fSQvRNrjjpRf9/sWcBi713s39Sx0UzWPoWshrdIBDB JD2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLrlLv5rdW8vlho4nSa6uzVKoIVW9BHU4XOaqxNcUZnSCzAD57yDrdM8Z+3C6P4OH89bg7leOEMbc0HgQ== X-Received: by 10.157.8.83 with SMTP id 77mr13885361oty.170.1484499686317; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:01:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.60.180 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Josep Maria Gasset Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Question parallel programming list To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:01:27 -0000 Dear list, Does anybody know if exists a mailing list about parallel programming? Greetings! --- Josep Maria Gasset FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 15 18:11:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D10ECB1266 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.moritz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x229.google.com (mail-lf0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4FAD1B6A for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alnis.moritz@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id k86so68005542lfi.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 10:11:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:references:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9KRAmL7rP+cuVhoH+un10s1H93KjBYK19xfX9qwkDZk=; b=QYhHZfQKJm6Y76qAIJCCSAeLGt1EVTXET/7hac5H5cSJA/TahSYubGwbpej53exh7t rlHpi1tpQGi4cK6tNRX9/k3xkBeOxFLWM76BK7CGniwXN6epW82L3Uh1WjlKpRXBZT1c JKo9wswt7mQGBPz8Q390yJyJTjkzEYvFhnXHWoUxMYoJXi6FHUpNuoejQ0NO8N71NoKb 0BL1pWP87MV1O1XidgwdRLjONjbDmjoYInW7U+hAE4d/aF9lMTyQMEDgzq9uDPAO/XO8 sXhdT/w6Ii7G1/HEE9/7ocnw5Qzm0U8wHwf1FI4GOpd6LR66wYmcHt+wlRH6c5syGTXO JLHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9KRAmL7rP+cuVhoH+un10s1H93KjBYK19xfX9qwkDZk=; b=VwazfnMN9w8k6lD70iRbx1MDd7u/DvzqhfjTbDsgQ2iG/QHqhzZgZxOXAvvSQhjbtV QvTTqD0m5fKS7MjiDtCBeYBqmRRaf2TyoZUzIEdCl+uoF4gIvFFlN4yWZjjht26ufHbO PFFj259ZeUVj7Kjfmfn+98KVivSQ+f2hztmi57vXnlhYljiCpAvYIpV785tNVzn+QTd/ ND1AS/6mSvHz58ud1lHJtNMm7CwpcCNZ9Fc24PXuxYTTBhZIo5kBbl63WOizK8tn3DJm qRmPjyrEunmLBLLwtMA2D4amqSsQHYIEWD/SEQbYOjAtuaSJpdEYD8jd/epJ0c77MGIU QHlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKPgysi5181p3vVD1CacwrZiM+1lwAWJqVDnPveZ5oC9v4zaYKmBgkTph1AabPd2Q== X-Received: by 10.25.72.20 with SMTP id v20mr9305680lfa.46.1484503879226; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 10:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from blazon-pfbsd.rw.lan ([78.84.248.245]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y9sm6023306ljd.41.2017.01.15.10.11.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 10:11:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: NFS: "bad exports list line /home/alnis" References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Alnis Morics Message-ID: <2cbbea3c-9c47-d86a-d4c9-2b5160e3e09b@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:11:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:11:22 -0000 Thank you very much, Aaron and Robroy. The absolute path and the exact syntax "/us/home/alnis 10.0.0.5" solved the problem. showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /usr/home/alnis 10.0.0.5 Now I can also mount the share rw from 10.0.0.5 machine. -Alnis From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 00:50:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76474CAFD84 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x243.google.com (mail-pg0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 494C51294 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 204so3881924pge.2 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:50:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FBSla3W6u//dkbpE+pzvhNTjiS8XEgVsuGBMKVwBLY=; b=rTTd5U2kI2N2lpwBdBfRhrgEXlTcpvYg9rUP53EEdV1IE7TsAgxVvvyGji7xslUpUE CcR5S5jlVAgBku2LVFoh/2Onhf/CpotXdPgSMOTWQT1yANkBReKa1O6h03YQuBrbuOm2 0aMWyPDg9bYHWGmFDXtFUh7bnHa/fjHvLP4WLtM/pH877BhS9V7IW8tagcoAsDXmEjCo Ge6duFVEx2xqQkKGZmtn6AHn9A1rgRfzL1QmwWEhhRV99V5YuQoIhHyPEs/KOIl2O6/P Dnp2BFQcd0VLi52J/nISVh2g1rqcL7b6BjQR8UsgnUTX+txxAipMTh254qMrlVJ9kTiI AZeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2FBSla3W6u//dkbpE+pzvhNTjiS8XEgVsuGBMKVwBLY=; b=gQnhAacDM5vkPYVgr7Cb4y4f3aYxGYJivSbHV3t3LJ9v6cDwFA9f76xsUenFq7efz3 MQfsEkMLvppzIo9q9y+x9QvJXmigaw47z+RQJVVCyxITDOtJ0BptiOZ6mhh2fPqys3XC rxf1VuEsTca7ZSEHGFAOKDAngZAQbKdZzOEQ4HpQJ3VTXCsX1hSJF7G3tg4uJ/ODEmVM 9FB2h/vARRz2nyZbyUBeLqBngosQSscsD/Fikcmj5NEWwk5ire8r3HzPWg7NtgQJczSE RA6+AlJ0Xbjc81us8TrRhvx7v4pSxMeYqgZQjY1MQCS/CEf9PnBpUwilAOcCOrl+yOps ZsLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLsBTfzGaEwtu8vgQVONNm1MjZc3+IiNw8wiY/uvYaLAB0n736jdfavU+gbRIhSig== X-Received: by 10.98.117.10 with SMTP id q10mr31667498pfc.31.1484527815745; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([120.29.76.161]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q19sm42605449pfl.21.2017.01.15.16.50.14 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:50:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <587C18C6.9020207@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:50:14 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: displaying motherboard bio's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:50:16 -0000 Hello List; I don't have local access to the box to change setting after power on and before system boots. I am inquiring about if there is a utility that will display and change the motherboard bio's configuration while the OS is running? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 04:56:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4DCB14E2 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 04:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24A581952 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 04:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:54:50 -0800 Subject: Re: displaying motherboard bio's To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587C18C6.9020207@gmail.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:54:49 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <587C18C6.9020207@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 04:56:16 -0000 On 01/15/17 16:50, Ernie Luzar wrote: > I don't have local access to the box to change setting after power on > and before system boots. > > I am inquiring about if there is a utility that will display and change > the motherboard bio's configuration while the OS is running? If it's an Intel desktop motherboard and processor with vPro/AMT: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-active-management-technology.html?wapkw=intel+active+management+technology Similarly, for an Intel server motherboard and processor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/server-management/intel-remote-management-module.html David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 09:26:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C58CB2ADB for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) Received: from server.whoishostingthismail.com (server.whoishostingthismail.com [104.236.126.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7212A1EC0 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whoishostingthismail.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:From:To:Date:Sender:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cQlt+7Li06QfBWZw7QdCWk/jHpW1YIkdzwbvtmQ39ig=; b=ogOrIm4hna5stD7VZ4Tw5Cfqb bI8XlFtKV2pBypLzv0k7oBJx3YVL24a2V6A0OSqwKmFiwYHiyReYZnvk0W2fvMKay40qZwB369xEo Lo7fI2sMFIqlDjY4TnNrbKCpC+E19oKPaqwXwRAGt9b3i2AraghyQVnBJ0u+sOMtzM/MZIywY+GKV KETV29ls3LHyBVEfrk2h59g6bgzrdvLzRTpECpq16YlZT31xuIsA7psNhXwG9zhc1tJwxqpTcsd3Q YvPO144pehvqLzILh+4I87+xSwLjf3b7PUcBLWWsChPYPHdqYb6SgzLm1sUwwyKMki6gItlwtLSbw jOV7SkhAA==; Received: from ec2-54-196-36-156.compute-1.amazonaws.com ([54.196.36.156]:35241 helo=whoishostingthismail.com) by server.whoishostingthismail.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cT3YY-0007YZ-1L for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:26:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:26:26 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Delgado Reply-To: Mike Delgado Subject: Re: One of your pages has a broken link Message-ID: <5705311.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.whoishostingthismail.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - whoishostingthismail.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.whoishostingthismail.com: authenticated_id: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server.whoishostingthismail.com: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:26:28 -0000 Hi, You've had a couple of emails from me recently about a broken link I found on your site, but I didn't hear back from you. Is there someone else I should get in touch with instead? I've included my previous email here: On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I know you're busy so I just wanted to follow up on the email I sent you the other day as I noticed the link is still broken. I've included my email below for ease of reference: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Mike Delgado wrote: Hi, I was on your page - http://freebsd.mk.ua/ports/math.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. I found it whilst doing some research for our ultimate guide to NetCDF which has just been published and might make a good replacement if you are updating the page. Here's the link - http://wiht.link/NetCDF-resources. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Best, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 15:28:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847B2CB2D9D for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 589EB1B41 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4526227E for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:28:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WHwNbhFaDkjY for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79B6362277 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:28:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484580515; bh=3CJdDMgOO1hKV5dtHj5iyYrUKr9u/WWqBjvskQ/AnPw=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=ie5StdkUlzBykDXbdJItjrWtVgXdga0Jobny+UBaz/oVghfo/Q8+Fgq/FFtONAw5+ qQJz8W2vj6YTL8MSkf6Ne3j/0yeXoJ60lnzhNcLhR0KF75IDmxCV1EbdCjVcTxHhci 6eMJG2/PFXjP6C+QVJ45DQh7S4SatNlwCihkMclqnigrnWzeHjYcg5x2MjT4yO+pAW tw+GLOFmWlUsY/gB5R/CvRgGXlkc18OuFQQ52TbJviR5tY7SjhzcZBOINd2fC5pi/7 +tO7gtXTCmD0tZoC1K3Hkx2njTb3RxCrW44Wu466DA5wXRfuSQXkrCrJP6xkLK8nyF QDPTtHyLTLkOA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:28:35 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:28:35 -0500 Subject: Bhyve / jails network response From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:28:44 -0000 I am experimenting with a jailed application, Drupal, hosted on a BHyve VM. Presently this jail responds only to an private IP. Our DNS is set up to respond to the domain name given to this jail and the reverse zone is also set up to properly return the domain assigned to that IPv4. When I ping this address using either the domain or the IP from our LAN I get an immediate response. However, when I ssh into the jail then it seems to take a significant period of time before I get a prompt. I would like to determine the source of this delay. It is an artefact of running a jail on a VM? It is an artefact of sshd running in a jail? It there a DNS issue somewhere? Is running jails on a VM a generally poor implementation choice. In other words should one use either Jails on the hardware host or VMs but not try an run jails within a VM? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 15:41:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065D5CB21BF; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C561812AF; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id j18so94146267ioe.2; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:41:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=u8caV1iojkj7D+1A93FYSRErkF3l2ccyMc55OKuSCsM=; b=hrfZWlzIneROGT72tOg/Jqi+3Z/Izfl0rm+deftvSjlcF2nbEQspU4EktEiGKA6D07 2YMxjFP5lUAtFbjZw1VHWEWo5jItVbuZvo6iY9mjW6U7J99CuR/MV87U83vGm8p2vixt DLYigvLNMV0j8ipQOL7lW6YN0+6G5fuMx9WZTcJ7cMJm6OLMmD7LYtsy6WPcTOBB1ubh uNah9cO2yNGI8XbvEg2oasOPux+zI4D++XwptBweGhZvmWLAlGtc0MC3/P9cP5TQWcwp h8HX4lYS9HpWho94QNTfg1IHVSIbTIw02BU5ZnTH5epauF5hSjzmZMgPtMWlJW043tP+ 8jzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=u8caV1iojkj7D+1A93FYSRErkF3l2ccyMc55OKuSCsM=; b=tnGXMFG0NPFQYVxhS+I4MnJxjznJ1nCPKXq/D6FIJCqjsmIeK/WeBKG5NzzyTD1lpd pIvsHx/TQc0I6h4CQjw1yGIizmeU5kWXARS8OkvSXZlfWkiLaOiqLPwx7JHR7wAzuZ32 ApEsTkszQj+ZLFsi69TqSBrmPs2Vj1L/VM6pKlENVLJHtztgWn+DvFNi6KZ7OvqUSMMT 7ZIOn5xhXs0uYMohgFPyXR5UAts7fpQn26TIAgONJjdzlA4R/67SpvsTIkEtQ7TuJj9z u9YxspXkDPjLCI2hne91/WO40tpFpzFE+2LjJetW40NuYL9YoZhnZc/At8N7Z2bAWstN cf/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIcucE/DCh30jI8pGc3at61HZvwwqzffuMDrJA+P3tNNOaoxoToR0UxqyJDxzxGYK16j9XN0VAIl3ClQw== X-Received: by 10.107.63.2 with SMTP id m2mr33041119ioa.74.1484581266966; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:41:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.142.199 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:41:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: jungle Boogie Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:41:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? To: Eric Joyner Cc: freebsd-questions , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:41:08 -0000 On 13 January 2017 at 12:23, Eric Joyner wrote: > > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I > don't know how long "forever" is. My last buildworld on a severely under powered i386 for 11stable: 420:41 minutes Build kernel is around 85 minutes. How I track: https://github.com/dschep/ntfy + https://pushover.net I get a notification on my phone, otherwise I would forget to check and/or check too frequently. I set it up in a tmux session and detach until it's finished. -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 15:45:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12088CB251D for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from barracuda.ssimicro.com (barracuda.ssimicro.com [96.46.39.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF7C5185E for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) by barracuda.ssimicro.com with ESMTP id g0hYfXBpRopko2rd (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v0GFWwbS099007 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:32:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from markham@ssimicro.com) Subject: Re: Bhyve / jails network response To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: markham breitbach Message-ID: <8c166f2b-4c40-7a85-d196-7fa9a1598a9c@ssimicro.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:33:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ssimicro.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:45:20 -0000 That is most certainly a DNS issue. You will need to make sure that you have configured a DNS server that can route to your private IP address. -M On 2017-01-16 8:28 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am experimenting with a jailed application, Drupal, hosted on a > BHyve VM. Presently this jail responds only to an private IP. Our DNS > is set up to respond to the domain name given to this jail and the > reverse zone is also set up to properly return the domain assigned to > that IPv4. > > When I ping this address using either the domain or the IP from our > LAN I get an immediate response. However, when I ssh into the jail > then it seems to take a significant period of time before I get a > prompt. I would like to determine the source of this delay. > > It is an artefact of running a jail on a VM? > > It is an artefact of sshd running in a jail? > > It there a DNS issue somewhere? > > Is running jails on a VM a generally poor implementation choice. In > other words should one use either Jails on the hardware host or VMs > but not try an run jails within a VM? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 16:46:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E37CAF0AF for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9508013D5 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=09MByC7eFnx4MZFlzQ2O6asts+DW6xSXjoJHIBWfWi67GPIXK/p80BTvrJCbPuOwJk eX1zaXg8hw2ae2y+nsUIj/RW1K55ydAK0kEJ9iXbmne+YXaofDnfw6rbbs8duHzpP1V6 OddTqF8BeHdpuvO59pIYHEBKksIbaZOFaxEGV1Jen/MRWuj3FHTWSjWnXTAXdv9ihOA1 Kepud32MzW/v2XdWz/tu7evRp2Q4aEf019iyOAazTr4YAQ1/n+YxrwmkW2vmABPJByqN Av564M0GzQLJtQUEwHQoZySIzHrLyH0C2NunKtH//g4xwEGfGLmmCpp0kxyieTvPIXLM FGTA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484581599; x=1485186399; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=oo+066gCMDZ v9dyOnsnp6og8xutxMieBKlal+pbM9Hc=; b=dp/GlQ2oyTfKsMbLMqN9migyNsg mRtYYSzJPuarKBAKJ7vanss71UEX2ydp2kJq0KNQPfKHhpoT2J+AiVPOn7+p7Tw8 EIK1NUmB0QQQ0ijAG3oQpSe+s0PIF9s7FEY9ltgyRDE5A/a22HdBd+SZhFJRMgxg TQVpwHAamhdniwmPnOk5xF5eliIclJKY+wUkdf8I+a1UALbgB1nJOBOlCn86fkAe 6mhPUBxzWy0JE8wz8Mv5+SKsiwqmUDW65Ku+qOjz5l1PRBTZKOmRhuuZcGTGG0T9 y45kCOw6Ar0KiKYbj/K2MDxtk3OGZVZLh7TNDg+AwJguw1oJzbP1u8a/WSA== Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:297c:46ff:9c08:c87a] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1243511; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:46:39 +0000 Subject: Re: Bhyve / jails network response To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <8b1f57ac-61b7-6028-a651-42d351fead71@radel.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:46:39 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms070308090108020006010409" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:46:51 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070308090108020006010409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/16/17 10:28 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > However, when I ssh into the jail > then it seems to take a significant period of time before I get a > prompt. I would like to determine the source of this delay. >=20 > It is an artefact of running a jail on a VM? >=20 > It is an artefact of sshd running in a jail? >=20 > It there a DNS issue somewhere? ssh -v or even ssh -vv would give you considerable information on which phase of the process is hanging. You could also crank up the logging for the server side in [probably] /etc/ssh/sshd_config to see what it thinks is happening. You did check the logs, right? And, yes, it could be the server trying to do a DNS lookup. Does DNS resolution work on the jail? 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Should be completely feasible from a legal standpoint, though depending on what you're hoping to achieve, there could be considerable technical effort involved. 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Byrne" To: "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:54:48 -0000 On Mon, January 16, 2017 11:02, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote: > Try to add: > > UseDNS no > > in sshd configuration and restart it. Issue should gone or at least be > much lighter on delays. > That seems to have resolved the delay in ssh connections. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 21:02:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B707CB322E for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjuliussadler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x22b.google.com (mail-oi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E616B1D7A for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjuliussadler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id m124so72606478oif.1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:02:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8Mv1zIyD1GVxqAD3iQEYvQuycito2QXGX69mEJhpQL4=; b=RjmdrSBx4mhm0yqF7h8al3LbILMXPg4H25y0ZxLCzNQecy/P+pCfgPScQuEQnef9/k oL9gQKAYTTrBLyuwj/1bQ9w7bM2dTD5DpNRdqbWSXycPj8dpe4QtSDfF+u18cJZiuHoQ pt3vgJdPbp/4gMmwM4ZQFDdrmdxrnbVIfMpXHrGnRXl/MSIyXQO2oBaqfKZg6fIQXEtW bjdiXYbwuX77apDGcGvGS6VtlrACVHf5jJDoZMXlBhyf2CwRzh83hUeMCYmsHQzX9VM4 IMT++Mq+TZJoZAwH+XYwbH/t2Lqc/TUNuH4AGzVYBgQAw+cfFuF4s8ebMK78lj5WWhC1 A9yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=8Mv1zIyD1GVxqAD3iQEYvQuycito2QXGX69mEJhpQL4=; b=twJA1onByAkE9pavhsU2cdGPTAZ9ANHr0osmc4cDeE0TzER4cfWSTY2R8w3xhyZIZt 1kYQW40+tO6iSuPI362SYKq/7L7lCIdMnW/u97JyUM+P9fmrp+dq0rGXbESKxCvr2nh3 12cpleHhg8Iy7XPqIC1nD/G97fVILdGRFQGd8Z5PrewWOSaSj/Q42A7D0lVApCmyB5c5 E8v/BL05wkMpaE/FADLMmJu64fmSpftxYY6lARH1E7srTXJYdMn5kZvUhCf+6M0p7rbk vVsm7BFI67TZzQsS01iKSyMRIaEE6VePh/WLF5XjKYS6/2aW7j7NYC/KFiX7bH0dAUHI Flig== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKJYtxC7C1115yDYNIUazUqOze515NMgXp7r+xLnawt84wAHVNCd+J0weRrtyQKX81zOMfP+o1Dl27i1w== X-Received: by 10.202.89.138 with SMTP id n132mr3806374oib.144.1484600564844; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:02:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: stanley julius-sadler Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:02:34 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Development To: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:02:46 -0000 Sorry I can't open the attachment, what should I open it with? On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, 7:59 pm Jon Radel, wrote: > On 1/16/17 2:38 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Im a small time developer and I want to build a BSD OS called Urban BSD ( > > somestuff.co.uk ), > > Hopefully I can base my distro on yours. > > Should be completely feasible from a legal standpoint, though depending > on what you're hoping to achieve, there could be considerable technical > effort involved. Read the license files for the details of what the > constraints are. > > > -- > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > -- Sent From My iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 21:24:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2483CB3AE1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 716D41E29 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=sIXzV0elY3eGMd+XGd+a/8qlN6Qh56DR0Lgli+wTQ4r8XhnfkmeWaYkveR+lu8E8w2 u7mwCU8hbvicxT/rp6ExMQk62bZbP6A+DXS8EptmD+Kk1BpxoAgpH92nDxYfPYp2vCBv bzKh9JhKiwQQop2KrBdtCcg0nN/MG++W2UvmBpP87Hqxsi7nRAwbJeUFzgV7fBOOBA3K lqWGjH28uTDg5JNpNZkALMvv+QeO20BTlEs3LyK24ZGX828vA1qp7qhOeHDpIJVrmn5G t6ucasKbTwvTZp0TT+Cpyv5QFDGnRtAAHdjZE3oHgt9u+SqMOK5kyjhZkoK81BTeb+3Y ZCHg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484601879; x=1485206679; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=DdUTbGvxnp7 GRQ1qhnpwQRv+pDRMiKT3sQi+AT7audc=; b=ufvpuG/bcLXzaZEPg2kNpZGRuEw jtRR2EQs57ySBhMiA+ouckOILeNK9WmnY4JndyVzixVisCvKFt89qb4drn1drEJ2 8crbFN+rq5XHuP6AC1ChV50Oo4hGLTfAlCszWxCKYYPRgBsW+Hev0K5HBA9wK0aV rkxEc9/16VKL1XZPw+EVZH1vxmtuIHrACvXKnnaxsx8VxJ0f01EBVr3UgevtC2BI T03TkDz/p7HXwWZ+jsNepNS+YS8f/XmatmDu102fvYDbzKY3UShkKwiCMmjLcrcz 53OZJ1LJsMuijOFqRpFho3ehj3pG+lyGmoVfG8qLUTvapcSUyexU3fzVvqA== Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:297c:46ff:9c08:c87a] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1243636; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:24:39 +0000 Subject: Re: Development To: stanley julius-sadler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:24:39 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms020604000809080806020507" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:24:41 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020604000809080806020507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/16/17 4:02 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > Sorry I can't open the attachment, what should I open it with? >=20 smime.p7s? That's an S/MIME digital signature, and I find it a bit disturbing that you've found an iPhone (if your signature is to be trusted) mail client that shows it as an attachment rather than just giving you the status of the signature. As for opening it: I'd say that a good general rule of thumb is that if you receive an attachment of a type you don't recognize from somebody you have no knowledge of that your best course of action would be to not open it at all. 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with SMTP id q20mr16414561otc.193.1484602969975; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:42:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> From: stanley julius-sadler Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:42:39 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Development To: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:42:50 -0000 I have a nexus 6, I have that signature so that my spelling and punctuation doesn't have to be great On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, 9:24 pm Jon Radel, wrote: > On 1/16/17 4:02 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > > Sorry I can't open the attachment, what should I open it with? > > > > smime.p7s? That's an S/MIME digital signature, and I find it a bit > disturbing that you've found an iPhone (if your signature is to be > trusted) mail client that shows it as an attachment rather than just > giving you the status of the signature. > > As for opening it: I'd say that a good general rule of thumb is that if > you receive an attachment of a type you don't recognize from somebody > you have no knowledge of that your best course of action would be to not > open it at all. YMMV, as always. > > > -- > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > -- Sent From My iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 16 21:57:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C961ACB2926 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C2E7103D for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=nVf0FWMiLN4XEmcdvc+6LNiv7ltTdUAPKkhsthUfCJK/VBclwouwmmwLVdHfHo+mkQ R/AyfF/tzNsCA5OESXO1hhAO19dzk8MgU/uIzH9k/06sqPUv01bKn6A41pT2H/NrVhDc hhoV+FCptbiV75+b33ix3IPg+cMAEKaYnTutGE0BbnfSaZyOTbQ+hUNR//DszbbphS9Y ibvCT/vZP/tAKTEGagn9hMbqNdoORneh3O8Uylyupic6L/4Nb/ezEHkrjM5Bwks3fMeQ damYtvAMK2C+6qJCFnUt4eoy1n31LtXgxw/qj+duBH2/m3SzPux9k8EpmrjmV+jtESWa +C0Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484603857; x=1485208657; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=af4LDqT1lKV mIipR+DvBKwrRrDdysWhPr7RxFUeE9Ho=; b=4Fr2iMzbS3SzM3VXCwRvdBlRuOS P1xAXKhyT0Vv587OnRDQTy+TRWeNyzu29Ps/wqdf+2a+8+5UhQ7HBjhvUxKm6q5U U8AHN0cJ9g4+P1mycRyDEMeZZf5cAPBDDYDpuWgXZ8p40E5ElR7ISU323Fz+2/j9 hJTZFz5BQPKXctf/USFZT8ys/00ZFBXsjqciqcChH/zeOWXeFZqKSh/ozWOpzkit H0gkLeu0/dR7BhBEQkJuIbrPa/ULsiZmRmZaxz8+u31gJ1o9Nq7jxfiWXOVpdw/N 5f0ulnBAbi6mPDcFGwcDlR7fJTlRfOV1Dryf1E5dfTjU58a+FnZ0xr/VThQ== Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:297c:46ff:9c08:c87a] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1243662; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:57:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Development To: stanley julius-sadler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <63cab1a9-1c2d-e1ae-3fc5-7bd4204a6407@radel.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:57:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040807030400030207050009" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:57:40 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040807030400030207050009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/16/17 4:42 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > I have a nexus 6, I have that signature so that my spelling and > punctuation doesn't have to be great Interesting that you think that iPhone users can't spell but that Nexus users can. In any case, you may wish to confirm that your mail client doesn't suffer from security flaws given that it appears to be somewhat behind the curve. In any case, good luck with your repackaging of FreeBSD. 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a small keyboard, so there might be spelling mistakes On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, 9:57 pm Jon Radel, wrote: > On 1/16/17 4:42 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > > I have a nexus 6, I have that signature so that my spelling and > > punctuation doesn't have to be great > > Interesting that you think that iPhone users can't spell but that Nexus > users can. In any case, you may wish to confirm that your mail client > doesn't suffer from security flaws given that it appears to be somewhat > behind the curve. > > In any case, good luck with your repackaging of FreeBSD. There are a > couple of existing projects that essentially do that, for example > Dragonfly BSD. > > -- > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > -- Sent From My iPhone From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 00:38:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA848CB3B8C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x234.google.com (mail-qt0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAD741937 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x234.google.com with SMTP id x49so129479787qtc.2 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:38:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tYdhqnudB2D+8Mic9TcN1nJ2NBn4mInFwwnogFq0QnM=; b=SpPpG943tQosdWI+VJqZ0NjBfYDgHZ1ZbFVd+W4Z76ZkIjzdt/WT9AD2WV2G2bG822 RKUD6lccyL1wcJsliozABQSYUC087ErOCD8fI14cyEnBqHuKIgWbWBxBNQEoYIMv3M4z H2cqeAm7jbJJxVQQopSbSYAZpy9QQNB4U/xwhMrEmmYVnlElxEA7zFu4vFFjm5hB7KyJ ijBYqsk/wZ16/yigQd0mJLNa5bmcR9LcDlmkUHkP/EdppEDHmX59nXJnTa/zdONXZNXO C5Y8XOFPB0d3YXOMxlPvyPfmeeMigbu6ipovx+nF6l+7lpKNHDJkkERae42UiF+bJGl8 vuVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=tYdhqnudB2D+8Mic9TcN1nJ2NBn4mInFwwnogFq0QnM=; b=Qy4zJeFAVHAHjyo/y8QDnZ/NIlmcH5BwyuRL+ITmicNBclf/WbKcLRY8khhAakgag0 aXzhPrJ6fLDLaiUCC88euGhl7IxcJZb+AOcAz4rkI6D1KqZ0pXZGj6g9z/iUxMIhcK3d PEtZJ3s4zGdIV2rmx8m1wTlDTZ/xnAoGokr4WmDXXdY8ldcYmO7mJkV7bqK78q4O0btK +1YijB3f3dqEn8T90s3ApaEk6C/Mo5hLhSIbYhVOOY6ZKDWDUW8Dm/KK5dzANrDkd9RX NksbuTBzNcElGHsdhbYHLwE1pM9L+3WQnp5sCKzK9tjXjw6UNQA9nOzLW8f1tEhFaSBK tMXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJjNt5ox9tqWUbroC/fv4jeVSG1gSgTa/trPDwscRcdv54zRcjWYBFhTbD6rRHZdUNRw1i+maV+tFIxeQ== X-Received: by 10.237.60.27 with SMTP id t27mr35503466qte.86.1484613501384; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:38:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:38:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question parallel programming list To: Josep Maria Gasset , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:38:22 -0000 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 12:01 PM Josep Maria Gasset wrote: > Dear list, > > > > Does anybody know if exists a mailing list about parallel programming? > > Not sure about specific for FBSD but checkout Perl 6. It supports concurrency, parallelism, asynchrony and multi core support. Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 03:17:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C96CB33E6 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 03:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D3D12A5 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 03:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 03:17:06 -0000 freebsd-questions: I currently use Debian 7 (Wheezy) with Xfce for a graphical desktop on my home LAN, but Wheezy is no longer fully supported (security updates only) and things are starting to break. Debian 8 is not appealing. I am looking for a successor. BSD appeals to my desire for "programming systems product" -- my FOSS usage has been largely based on "monkey see, monkey do"; I want to understand, without having to crawl the source code: https://www.pearsonhighered.com/program/Mc-Kusick-Design-and-Implementation-of-the-Free-BSD-Operating-System-The-2nd-Edition/PGM224032.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi https://www.michaelwlucas.com/os/af2e (needs updating) Therefore, I have been evaluating various BSD distributions over the past several weeks using a computer with an Intel DQ67SW motherboard, i7-2600S CPU, 8 GB RAM, and 16 GB SATA SSD: 1. FreeBSD requires assembling the pieces. 2. PC-BSD is obsolete. 3. TrueOS Desktop is the successor of PC-BSD. Lumina was interesting, but IPv4 was broken OOTB. Attempts to fix it revealed that the project is still unstable. 4. GhostBSD looks polished, but crashes as soon as I try to use it. So, I am making a second attempt at FreeBSD using: FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img The console and SSH worked as expected. I integrated the computer into my LAN, updated, installed a few packages, set up toor, set up my user account, etc.: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ freebsd-version 11.0-RELEASE-p7 dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I then installed Xorg per the FreeBSD Manual section 5.3: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html During installation, the following was displayed: Make sure that the freetype module is loaded. If it is not, add the following line to the "Modules" section of your X Windows configuration file: Load "freetype" Add the following line to the "Files" section of X Windows configuration file: FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" Note: your X Windows configuration file is typically /etc/X11/XF86Config if you are using XFree86, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you are using X.Org. I then configured Xorg per the instructions above and per manual section 5.4: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ grep wheel /etc/group wheel:*:0:root,freebsd,dpchrist dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ grep vt /boot/loader.conf kern.vty=vt dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/OTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "glx" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz", ### : "%" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "AccelMethod" # #Option "Backlight" # #Option "DRI" # #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "Tiling" # [] #Option "LinearFramebuffer" # [] #Option "SwapbuffersWait" # [] #Option "TripleBuffer" # [] #Option "XvPreferOverlay" # [] #Option "HotPlug" # [] #Option "ReprobeOutputs" # [] #Option "XvMC" # [] #Option "ZaphodHeads" # #Option "TearFree" # [] #Option "PerCrtcPixmaps" # [] #Option "FallbackDebug" # [] #Option "DebugFlushBatches" # [] #Option "DebugFlushCaches" # [] #Option "DebugWait" # [] #Option "BufferCache" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "intel" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Running 'startx' at this point launched TWM, which seemed to work at a basic level (I am not a TWM user). (I could find no way to stop TWM -- clicking on the desktop and selecting the Exit item caused all the windows to go goofy, but still left TWM running. More poking, RTFM, STFW, etc., failed to produce a solution. I got lucky and tried typing 'exit' into all the terminal windows. Typing 'exit' into 'login' terminal window causes TWM to exit.) I skipped manual sections 5.5 (fonts) and 5.6 (xdm). (During my previous evaluation, I could find no way to exit XDM. Someone suggested pushing the power button. STFW I found a guy who wrote Tcl/Tk code for shutdown and restart buttons -- too much work.) I then installed Xfce per manual section 5.7: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html Upon installation, the following was displayed: To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add .rules files in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/rules.d directory. Which looks like this (replace PUTYOURGROUPHERE by your group): polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart" || action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop") && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); For those who have working suspend/resume: polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend" && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); I added the suggested file, using my login group: toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/60-restart-stop.rules polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend" && subject.isInGroup("dpchrist")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); I created the Xorg resource script per the manual: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ cat .xinitrc exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch startx now launches Xfce, which seems to mostly work: 1. Application Menu -> Log Out dialog Shut Down and Restart options are grayed out. I would like to get the Shut Down and Restart capabilities working in Xfce. On my previous attempt, someone suggested that I need to use a specific group (operator?). I would prefer to use or create a group specifically for X users (xusers?). 2. Upon log out, I see a fair amount of text on the console; some of which implies issues: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ cat startx.script Script started on Mon Jan 16 17:16:59 2017 Command: startx xauth: file /home/dpchrist/.serverauth.786 does not exist X.Org X Server 1.17.4 Release Date: 2015-10-28 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p7 i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD freebsd 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 12 January 2017 06:45:48AM Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 16 17:16:59 2017 (==) Using config file: "/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf" /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 xfce4-session: No GPG agent found (xfsettingsd:823): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.vfs.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported DBG[workspaces.c:456] xfce_workspaces_helper_wait_for_window_manager_destroyed(): found window manager after 1 tries (xfce4-panel:821): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.vfs.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported (xfdesktop:825): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.vfs.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported (xfdesktop:825): GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor-WARNING **: remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor is not supported (xfce4-session:809): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory. This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set. The overwriting error message was: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory (xfce4-session:809): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_set_visible: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed (xfce4-session:809): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. Command exit status: 0 Script done on Mon Jan 16 17:17:12 2017 I would also like to understand and fix the various warnings and errors displayed on the console. Please advise. Citations/ references would be appreciated. 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[198.252.153.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm17225843pfi.83.2017.01.16.20.07.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:07:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:07:46 -0500 From: Serge Hooge To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170116230746.7e8d9b89@silverbeast> In-Reply-To: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:07:52 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 David Christensen wrote: >[snip] First of all, using your own Xorg.conf is very deprecated, I suggest you allow X to configure itself, i.e., remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf files and simply run startx. For fonts, use /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, the man file explains how to define your own sections for X to use. Freetype should be loaded by default when X configures itself. Alternatively, just copy/move all TTF and/or OTF fontfiles to their respective folders in /usr/local/share/fonts/ (wish port packagers did that by default). As far as your qeustions go... Do you have both hald and dbus running? Please provide your /etc/rc.conf Are you using ports or packages? A mix of two? (latter very ill advised). -- Serge Hooge () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ - against proprietary attachments From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 04:09:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BC5CB38D9 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46E741EC4 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:11:51 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57BB33CC3F; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:08:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0H48srI002142; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:08:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:08:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jungle Boogie Cc: Eric Joyner , FreeBSD Current , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Message-Id: <20170117050854.f964d143.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 2E6166BEA7A X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2041 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:09:10 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:41:06 -0800, jungle Boogie wrote: > On 13 January 2017 at 12:23, Eric Joyner wrote: > > > > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I > > don't know how long "forever" is. > > > My last buildworld on a severely under powered i386 for 11stable: 420:41 minutes > Build kernel is around 85 minutes. Some "manual copy & paste" data from the past (original post is from 2008, repost from 11/2015): *** quote *** FreeBSD 5 on Pentium 4 with 2 GHz and 1 GB RAM: b.world+b.kern: 17494.415u 2562.134s 5:46:42.25 96.4% (with CFLAGS) 17474.169u 2481.368s 5:46:30.40 95.9% (without CLFAGS) 5608.712u 1595.130s 2:13:18.67 90.0% 6382.185u 1788.433s 2:26:36.06 92.8% buildworld: 5086.993u 1431.086s 1:58:16.33 91.8% 11457.047u 2151.158s 3:54:15.31 96.8% buildkernel 2326.380u 234.457s 43:42.15 97.6% 1102.491u 278.194s 25:18.58 90.9% 1182.203u 294.622s 26:12.71 93.9% 1518.402u 310.741s 34:16.96 88.9% 3289.368u 529.669s 1:05:25.90 97.2% installkernel: 5.718u 6.898s 0:30.97 40.6% 6.655u 7.389s 0:32.08 43.7% 6.994u 7.734s 0:33.19 44.3% (...software advance happens here...) FreeBSD 7 on Pentium 4 with 2 GHz and 1 GB RAM: b.world+b.kern: 16574.070u 2516.128s 6:06:03.90 86.9% (with debug) 18232.967u 2427.404s 7:19:49.24 78.2% (with debug) 18992.839u 2569.146s 9:12:00.28 65.1% buildworld: 11457.047u 2151.158s 3:54:15.31 96.8% buildkernel: 3289.368u 529.669s 1:05:25.90 97.2% 3503.732u 524.399s 1:11:05.53 94.4% 4032.019u 572.636s 1:58:29.08 64.7% (with debug) installkernel: 17.396u 12.587s 0:46.89 63.9% 18.890u 12.131s 1:11.85 43.1% As you can see, 5 hours was a possible value on a single-core single-threat slow-as-ass CPU. But then the system became more advanced, and 7 - 9 hours compile time became possible. :-) *** end quote *** Sadly I don't have a "copy" of my build time on my current home PC, including a Core 2 Duo 4600 with 1.8 GHz and 2 GB RAM, using a SATA disk, with FreeBSD 8-STABLE, but I think it was around 5 hours for everything (including a custom kernel). It would be nice if the build system would automatically issue a log file or at least log message about build time and usage statistics. If it wouldn't tell about my brain's age, I would politely ask to have a "flower box"... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 04:11:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC09CB3A89 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 367261129 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29AD41A0394 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:05:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484625957; bh=a+reMvn7NNEgSeDhEBrwPEukXIODT60xPZxSEauf0HY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Qcmo1ptJxw/sRkOI6iMI/sTa00Qwh1ftFBjrV6i/y/e29e5gL1v7P6OkVGhl6Gkq0 aB6tOidWKLmfd0mYUyopTxzSF6vhhZQVwW5XdxS3unOIcykIo62X9XeDQ/E1gB9Gc1 TDHHWOGSqzAEcSyRjlrabrj7dmGRl2Qpfch7Yn7I= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 341C140362 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:05:55 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/omDgmiK2AXQe5gE+pgtpjXn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 04:11:25 -0000 --Sig_/omDgmiK2AXQe5gE+pgtpjXn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 David Christensen wrote: >[snip] First of all, using your own Xorg.conf is very deprecated, I suggest you allow X to configure itself, i.e., remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf files and simply run startx. For fonts, use /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, the man file explains how to define your own sections for X to use. Freetype should be loaded by default when X configures itself. Alternatively, just copy/move all TTF and/or OTF fontfiles to their respect= ive folders in /usr/local/share/fonts/ (wish port packagers did that by default= ). As far as your qeustions go...=20 Do you have both hald and dbus running? Please provide your /etc/rc.conf Are you using ports or packages? A mix of two? (latter very ill advised). --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/omDgmiK2AXQe5gE+pgtpjXn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAlh9mCMACgkQxKRHP62A DZlKeg//SC3AmCsbdQ7lZ+6y+LE4C6nFDrxtCB7OoUCvPDLlT3siZFO60auUtaSO FiHJvwkG2AYEieEAThKjaacNitWmOdrjEM9DDF3FoHtfWmerCVozUbYXPWEoLjhj JF1x6zlZjsH/DGxk3Kme3Y6Uy7fOFf0cm5O+DMPAXWdTx7uEno9T9h8mFHoCdz4/ q/EbuThkfHnDYbl8rUzGajFQCh4AxIRiR3kSntDgpkARm6eRPSGTiroFAMynGlv8 EACMk4IbfHeDmuMinbz2csShJGTuqam5VLhSLB+gYBS1rgzdLXxWd1DmK/gAbrGo xLvyQEOZzRKT3enmP9s7P3Zja3KBdMiP52dtyEzeur381OM8JRZDtahShat14fYp LdIirzXX5h17x4xnC2hPkrKafz2Wxpd2RNkhJHBdDaYdjyu1i413QkMsTzFs4wZl 6QRejrO6AXNTaELTmb9f8ObNA3waEtrTkPglKCVLdwLgSsHFt8FOzZ19cYl24oJP o4mZ/+W35qPmJ5hvn0cm/8nHo4+h7pnC9dB5SCD4/rWxir8O6iLIyLM9bE8cJM2/ iqhkskyw6vXdqgONzHHKUoiPMWp594llTtIlaj+rzG6WvnNbS94XaNDwNoocjcJp QDEWkJXDUj6hWYdW/oE1NP/02QQSmlmyDzojw3CK+TVhVnCFrYM= =5DFG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/omDgmiK2AXQe5gE+pgtpjXn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 05:00:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4B0CB1D7B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BEE3189A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:00:31 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:00:31 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 05:00:41 -0000 On 01/16/17 20:05, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: Thanks for the reply. > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 > David Christensen wrote: >> [snip] > > First of all, using your own Xorg.conf is very deprecated, I suggest you > allow X to configure itself, i.e., remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ l /etc/X11/ ./ ../ > and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf files and simply run startx. I generated xorg.conf.new per the manual section 5.4.8: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html # Xorg -configure I then moved xorg.conf.new to /usr/local/etc/X11, copied it to xorg.conf, and added the settings suggested when installing xorg: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ diff /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.new /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf 15a16 > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" 19a21 > Load "freetype" > For fonts, use /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, the man file explains how to > define your own sections for X to use. Freetype should be loaded by default > when X configures itself. > Alternatively, just copy/move all TTF and/or OTF fontfiles to their respective > folders in /usr/local/share/fonts/ (wish port packagers did that by default). Can I replace my /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf with the following? # /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dpchrist.conf Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "freetype" EndSection > As far as your qeustions go... > > Do you have both hald and dbus running? How do I determine if both hald and dbus are running? > Please provide your /etc/rc.conf toor@freebsd:/root # cat /etc/rc.conf clear_tmp_enable="YES" hostname="freebsd" ifconfig_em0="DHCP" # local_unbound requires forwarders to support DNSSEC, and AT&T gateway does # not: # local_unbound_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" powerd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="AUTO" zfs_enable="YES" Thanks for kicking some brain cells -- from my previous thread: On 12/31/16 12:48, Polytropon wrote: > You need to run both hald and dbus. And you need to refer to > that documentation here, as the manpages probably aren't up > to date (or Linux-specific): > > https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html Add the suggested lines: toor@freebsd:/etc # vi rc.conf clear_tmp_enable="YES" hostname="freebsd" ifconfig_em0="DHCP" # local_unbound requires forwarders to support DNSSEC, and AT&T gateway does # not: # local_unbound_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" powerd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="AUTO" zfs_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" Reboot and try Xfce: 1. Application Menu -> Log Out -> Restart works. 2. Application Menu -> Log Out -> Shut Down works. > Are you using ports or packages? A mix of two? (latter very ill advised). I'm using 'pkg'. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > This past week I have been setting up a jail for a drupal7 website. I > am now at the point where I need to update the modules and I would > like to employ the drush cli utility. To install this on a Drupal7 > website it is suggested to run this command in the Drupal document > root: > > > php -r > "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > > drush > > However, when I run this inside the jail then I see this error, > > PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you > forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on > line 1 > PHP Warning: > readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed > to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line > 1. > > If I run the same command on the host system of the jail then I do not > get this error. What am I missing with respect to the jailed setup? > I have no idea what Drupal is and you provided no details about how you populated the jail with it. So just a shot in the dark. Sounds like your jail does not have public internet access. Is the jails IP address being NATed by your hosts firewall? Issuing "whois 9.9.9.9" from with in your running jail should return results if the jail/host firewall is configured correctly. You really need to post details about what steps you did before more people can help you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 07:27:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76519CB3DC1 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 07:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm35-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm35-vm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E959010AA for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 07:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1484637887; bh=PQxoyl1OnRxtOPUgu7+TSW5ZsOHVFwjBk0tz7Qg3pOk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=Tg8uAfUdCR/6MqBZAtIxeEDiHoDiE5wGKWLMdKSW/aNtiXUgtLRFkcgZNMqiK0Y5dBoKXS9JZSJHl+yNUU6XuQEQfvdsZTLTNqzX3vUGPZIMpG2+kJRZudehmzz68DZLdwqE0212C8Pb8MCLCXfsiDrlhGx+7go6+Ox0ApRc/sZu1cYX3oTfMG9Wk84F8Ud69sCnzHleYrs5yWpcWgEhOmJg0f/ffTR+12ixjRKUiOf9kgju7h2upJq85gnjUMwN4EVAVc5SWw2ICrII1W1oRymwLAfIY106IvqRSsHPHZDsRpt5FWhsbRw8piWkAVLIFOcd7DwXuWmBp2/t4JKuqQ== Received: from [212.82.98.53] by nm35.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2017 07:24:47 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.79] by tm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2017 07:24:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2017 07:23:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 649255.73797.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: NoZ6_VwVM1mhYzCCuzxYXJZIuDycyweW_uEC7hu7y8h6wq4 o.mrsBHLkuazEJj9fjhHgEex6xQzmbWVrqcPFI341m.z4ueRHirlE3RstLUM DrwnIp7Ufyf7UmKh2nVoJQ7zV1D1DwmlyjLfUqTpT0z0Ys2hLz4rbhe29Zvd HSKpzI.vYRIpbOrUdoU5ZcrtQiVqh3ay5mOYpZc0CTz5FghpUayeaj7BtyWd Qo8wsQkXuDT7aXvucvv51ArEJIeHBuVeXL.7b38xK6UynqCgi0KC.JWvEcIx agqJIH7NksekSUO8jqS5GptbpOpY8fAZPS7PY2zyA6G0Fhj4GAC5rte_DC68 moovMqddbN2eLn.TvzlJ.U_GjwEvwYzk4dtgVjPtwZZINoOCTHKYnpslf1WS c4HmIP3hCp_xPImDVH01pdtSea_V9Xqk83O9He9S5dKGUD8P7erhGOdrucn6 Y2Y.GCjbXDF.jhO2_siEQ5FnYDYX47ODfD47rD6EhwLohDt1STVPZpNxoyFi CId_t9AG1M2uVem7rQ4JmlPoN56YDiFXDsUKQS73voqpwVU2O1tp6Fjv2tSv paW.vTvg1hNTyXxbZOp52PCk5TjHp4My8BUZc.kjO38ajfnXwODo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:24:30 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Development Message-Id: <20170117082430.e771288138a7a1e98c5cdcc1@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> References: <8fa3f7e6-2904-dd7c-60d6-78ac42d5a188@radel.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 07:27:28 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:24:39 -0500 Jon Radel wrote: > On 1/16/17 4:02 PM, stanley julius-sadler wrote: > > Sorry I can't open the attachment, what should I open it with? > > > > smime.p7s? That's an S/MIME digital signature, and I find it a bit > disturbing that you've found an iPhone (if your signature is to be > trusted) mail client that shows it as an attachment rather than just > giving you the status of the signature. I see as attachmet too ;) My email client (sylpheed on FreeBSD 11-stable) says: Signature made at Mon Jan 16 22:24:39 2017 Valid signature but the key for "1.2.840.113549.1.9.1=#6A6F6E40726164656C2E636F6D,CN=Jon Radel,OU=Corporate Secure Email,OU=Issued through Jon T. Radel E-PKI Manager,O=Jon T. Radel,STREET=6917 Ridgeway Dr.,L=Springfield,ST=VA,2.5.4.17=#3232313530,C=US" is not trusted aka "" > As for opening it: I'd say that a good general rule of thumb is that > if you receive an attachment of a type you don't recognize from > somebody you have no knowledge of that your best course of action > would be to not open it at all. YMMV, as always. > > > -- > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 08:24:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69968CB3BFA for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502951315 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9941D1A2433 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:24:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484641476; bh=Yo7UePz7UD6rg9u8gzmnLoR4LHUXGFN0nQOT7LEwNeA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Nksp5Tnnf02U6awFnRImaEBGhlgBK0OedS0AwoG9skCotimLsPh+8uxLYunEnv/tX PrQRrKR5GiJznpYUP6R5MDDV6cFo+cAucXP3IxN/ZBaUDOQFdyvsZVgGx6xdMr0rnZ mQQscLQ1M8gm7ujIgM2YhdS93m5KVMiQqd3b1RGs= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 2C3491C0061 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 03:24:34 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/ZvoZzt3yNy/VlIFAu2N2TiR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:24:38 -0000 --Sig_/ZvoZzt3yNy/VlIFAu2N2TiR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize for the recent double-post, sent from both email addresses by accident. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:00:31 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > I generated xorg.conf.new per the manual section 5.4.8: >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html The handbook is slightly out of date. Get rid of any generated Xorg.conf fi= les, startx *should* work out of the box. In fact, in a lot of machines, X -conf= igure is harmful and breaks X while autoconfigure works just fine. If startx doesn't work out of the box, all the tweaks should be done in /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d > Can I replace my /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf with the following? >=20 > # /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dpchrist.conf >=20 > Section "Files" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Module" > Load "freetype" > EndSection Yes, just name your file something like 20-dpchrist.conf. But I reccomend 20-fonts.conf so you know what the file does. > > As far as your qeustions go... > > > > Do you have both hald and dbus running? =20 >=20 > How do I determine if both hald and dbus are running? All of your start-up services should be in your rc.conf. > > Please provide your /etc/rc.conf =20 >=20 > toor@freebsd:/root # cat /etc/rc.conf > clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES" > hostname=3D"freebsd" > ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" > # local_unbound requires forwarders to support DNSSEC, and AT&T gateway d= oes > # not: > # local_unbound_enable=3D"YES" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_enable=3D"YES" > powerd_enable=3D"YES" > # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable > dumpdev=3D"AUTO" > zfs_enable=3D"YES" Doesn't look like you have hald and/or dbus. Add both. You need dbus for Firefox and a few other programs to work anyway. XFCE uses HAL and DBUS along with PolKit to provide unprivileged shutdown. Add hald_enable=3D"YES" dbus_enable=3D"YES" Then either reboot or run # service hald start # service dbus start > Add the suggested lines: >=20 > toor@freebsd:/etc # vi rc.conf > clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES" > hostname=3D"freebsd" > ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" > # local_unbound requires forwarders to support DNSSEC, and AT&T gateway d= oes > # not: > # local_unbound_enable=3D"YES" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_enable=3D"YES" > powerd_enable=3D"YES" > # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable > dumpdev=3D"AUTO" > zfs_enable=3D"YES" > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > hald_enable=3D"YES" Well, forgive me or pointing it out, but looks like you didn't follow the previous thread's advice, looking at your current rc.conf > > Are you using ports or packages? A mix of two? (latter very ill advised= ). =20 >=20 > I'm using 'pkg'. The errors you are seeing could be related to the packager's machine, but t= ry enabling HAL and DBUS first and see if they go away. In my experience, GUI/DE-related errors of that nature are harmless. If they don't go away, try using ports to build the packages. Just be sure = you don't mix ports and packages unless you know what you are doing. On a very big tangent, most of the Desktop Environments still have strong t= ies to GNU/Linux distributions. I personally recommend you try Lumina or switch= to a WM-only setup for most optimal tweak-free experience. That's not to say tha= t you can't do it, but... give it a thoght. 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Havin a FreeBSD based router connected to a service PC via serial console/n= ull modem cabling, I realised that using "tip ucom1fast" gives me access to the conso= le even if I simply close the terminal window (X11/xterm) and reconnect again on the ver= y same box. I detail: loggin in into the router (FreeBSD 12-CURRENT) via "tip ucom1fast= " gives a console, on which I can log in as root. Doing so, working on the remote bo= x and then closing the X11 terminal, wait a few minutes, say, 15 minutes, opening anot= her X terminal and performing "tip ucom1fast" again, provides me with the same still logge= d in session as before! I waited for ~ 60 - 70 minutes and had success the very same way= - I gained root access to the console if root was logged in before the way described. = I consider this very dangerous. I tried to enbale auto logout on csh, which works, I also enabled auto logo= ut on ssh sessions, which works well, too. But the FreeBSD "sh" seems to be acient in= a way and doesn't provide any kind of auto logout or auto termination of the session = neither did I have success with /etc/login.conf and setting ":idletime=3D10m:". The big question is: how can I auto logout a user, even on the console? Please CC me, I'm not a subscriber of the list. Thanks in advance, Oliver --=20 O. 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(rs%bytecamp.net@212.37.174.29) by mail.bytecamp.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted); 17 Jan 2017 10:14:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Auto-dropping serial console connection: foo takeover To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170117095243.02c0c03b@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> From: Robert Schulze Organization: bytecamp GmbH Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:14:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170117095243.02c0c03b@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:23:16 -0000 Hi, Am 17.01.2017 um 09:52 schrieb O. Hartmann: > Hello list. > > Havin a FreeBSD based router connected to a service PC via serial console/null modem > cabling, I realised that using "tip ucom1fast" gives me access to the console even if I > simply close the terminal window (X11/xterm) and reconnect again on the very same box. > [...] > > I tried to enbale auto logout on csh, which works, I also enabled auto logout on ssh > sessions, which works well, too. But the FreeBSD "sh" seems to be acient in a way and > doesn't provide any kind of auto logout or auto termination of the session neither did I > have success with /etc/login.conf and setting ":idletime=10m:". autologout works quite well via .cshrc, but only if there is no other command running in the shell. I.e. it won't autologout if you - for example - call top and then close your serial connection. regards Robert Schulze From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 09:45:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACF5CB0C8C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CA8F109C for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout08 with smtp id ZMiJ1u0031mJoLY01MiKb1; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:42:19 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=EZG4eLuC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IgFoBzBjUZAA:10 a=ZubcGFkXAAAA:8 a=huKModhzXlnVbVaNR_QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kUx6feENxpTNjkNjdsbW:22 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.87_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cTQHS-0000jv-5B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:42:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:42:18 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20170117094218.104c86e1@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:45:35 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > Therefore, I have been evaluating various BSD distributions over the > past several weeks using a computer with an Intel DQ67SW motherboard, > i7-2600S CPU, 8 GB RAM, and 16 GB SATA SSD: [snip] > So, I am making a second attempt at FreeBSD using: > > FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img Though not directly relevant to your question the i386 image is a 32 bit system so you'd get better performance if you installed FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img instead to take full advantage of your 64 bit processor and all 8GB of your RAM. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 09:59:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6C8CB205A for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.home.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD56A16FB for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0H9bHi8046945 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:37:17 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: restore(1) on ZFS Message-ID: <7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:37:17 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:59:10 -0000 I have a server I want to convert from UFS to ZFS. Is is possible to use restore(1) on ZFS or should I use tar for the transfer? -- By June 1949, people had begun to realize that it was not so easy to get a program right as had at one time appeared. It was on one of my journeys between the EDSAC room and the punching equipment that the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 10:23:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8304CB28AA for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EEA41586 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (unknown [85.199.232.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F94C27CD for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201601-infracaninophile; t=1484648614; bh=b6ryUAKunmr6iF+CS6Y9/y6LdZy0AspDyVyhEl5TBAo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; z=Subject:=20Re:=20restore(1)=20on=20ZFS|To:=20freebsd-questions@fr eebsd.org|References:=20<7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng -ho.org>|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jan=202017=2010:23:21=20+0000|In-Reply-To: =20<7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org>; b=iKkg4eF7ZLqV4Az8wqD/HOA3pnmcCGx0Qn2mRqQ5Sn4/ad5hJgysGLnCbEVE7sei9 ZniqUVyZ3kROgBP3BMtDgHcaImNcHBRFNAvjQGlTV2c2IzbKUhl+1O7+FAUNrpwfb6 IjjIgEQzyV79M/07pG/2IlwuETMFmZIm4QPFHGuQ= Subject: Re: restore(1) on ZFS To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <3893288b-8637-f514-b85c-d58b440b62a4@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:23:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v3bAQblTjTLLTWCpwpVD8k0LCOOMMuvdc" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:23:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --v3bAQblTjTLLTWCpwpVD8k0LCOOMMuvdc Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="efk97OkTp99gH2eQVG9xNmBxM4up5cvDN"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3893288b-8637-f514-b85c-d58b440b62a4@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: restore(1) on ZFS References: <7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <7bd49c68-3d4b-6338-3946-07e02c65479e@qeng-ho.org> --efk97OkTp99gH2eQVG9xNmBxM4up5cvDN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/17/17 09:37, Arthur Chance wrote: > I have a server I want to convert from UFS to ZFS. Is is possible to us= e > restore(1) on ZFS or should I use tar for the transfer? You can use restore on ZFS, but any of the standard programs for moving around directory hierarchies will work: cp(1), tar(1), cpio(1), rsync(1), etc. Watch out for oddities like files with holes in them or the use of ACLs as these may need specific apps to transfer -- but there aren't any of these in the base system, and they would be unusual on most installations. 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s= smtpout; bh=QbeQEG1OxO/1cMkFMkNK0eZBj1E=; b=UQOuguLTkDojJV9l3il5 rVy0LT9spKFLnO4EFgpbM5s2dQCEsaR4N8QXaJQg0v6boGEJRAaeEIKwHwyQuPUR FIcqqu3xmhixPkW5ZxcvGBP65S7/XV84F/sNC/Qf5DKUvGH/ChmnnEPqQ1YpdKsM 4o7a5yngwZ9zebhwa5cB7lY= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: kA9OV3x6KH+teMptrxWE2LpwxSewks7zbGJRE2LFdvGO 1484662696 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A94E87E876 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:18:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: tech-lists Message-ID: <4032ef3c-90af-c7b9-e0b0-a8e9806f1552@zyxst.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:18:16 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:18:18 -0000 On 13/01/2017 20:23, Eric Joyner wrote: > ^ Message ^ > > It takes forever, but I keep on forgetting to time how long it takes, so I > don't know how long "forever" is. Hi, On my machine it takes about 20-30 mins with an empty /usr/obj. I haven't times it precisely though. Specs: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4251.31-MHz K8-class CPU) real memory = 34359738368 (32768 MB) It runs zfs. /usr/obj and /tmp are on a SSD. I buildworld & buildkernel with -j32. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 15:26:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC05ACB3D0D for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.home.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org", Issuer "fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 670B81FBB for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0HFQHKb049105 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:26:17 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: Boot environments and /var - what should be shared/unshared? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:26:17 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:26:21 -0000 I've been using beadm boot environments for a while now, but still haven't seen a definitive reference for which parts of /var should be shared across boot environments and which should be per environment. Is there such a document, or is everybody still busking it? Some top level directories in /var seem fairly obviously in need of sharing, others less so, and /var/db seems to be a horrible mix of stuff that could be shared across releases and stuff that might break horribly if shared over major revisions. (That's "might" because I have no idea if it would in practice.) I doubt whether any of this would matter (except for space) if one simply rolled forward monotonically, but a roll back because of problems, or simply switching between development environments, could lose necessary updates if the directory hadn't been shared when it should have been. -- By June 1949, people had begun to realize that it was not so easy to get a program right as had at one time appeared. It was on one of my journeys between the EDSAC room and the punching equipment that the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 15:52:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618DACB4633 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 340FF1EF1 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA72962135; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:35:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxEF0922NzdP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA059620D4; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:35:51 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484663752; bh=gBQV+2t7iLDpl+8POygeeg+Ps8KKs9T26YOMlSqomfQ=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=tmBF/5oywn4f+LhxZ/QXj42+kUzkwCB/6jEx2Wb5nnmQTIcm769w5PzNxbXvcALvL yAUlPBPPM/KwW3Yk1lTGXGTVyd81IB3jYfhoylwxPKYmL8GnRhMNV9TFguJh5eTjwZ vuuzdz2OIA07Q02edQW6KM2Z9Q5q7lmrtQWcaUv+ma5WmexVUtnVNFS//blzCBW3VN X44RuivQK33nmjSYox1zLYGoNfY5E1SGBXRUElt1Nkqh9d4bZBXAcCNgEoABJetM3E JmBVA/rSweJTXFYCUnYA5TsYAlGQQcAfDU5WwDdvNxW3VPIk56F12t3s3zHaeYEArD OkX9aEmiiq5ng== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <587DAD16.1040407@gmail.com> References: <9759d7e21a401b7f89f9318c1656867e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <587DAD16.1040407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:35:52 -0500 Subject: Re: A question about php in a jail From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:52:15 -0000 On Tue, January 17, 2017 00:35, Ernie Luzar wrote: > James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> This past week I have been setting up a jail for a drupal7 >> website. I am now at the point where I need to update the >> modules and I would like to employ the drush cli utility. >> To install this on a Drupal7 website it is suggested to run >> this command in the Drupal document root: >> >> >> php -r >> "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > >> drush >> >> However, when I run this inside the jail then I see this error, >> >> PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did >> you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line >> code on line 1 >> PHP Warning: >> readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): >> failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command >> line code on line 1. >> >> If I run the same command on the host system of the jail then I >> do not get this error. What am I missing with respect to the >> jailed setup? >> > > I have no idea what Drupal is and you provided no details about how > you populated the jail with it. So just a shot in the dark. Thanks you for your reply. Drupal is a Web Content Management System. Drush is an ancillary project that automates numerous common maintenance tasks involving a Drupal installation. Both Drupal and Drush are written in PHP. Drupal was installed using 'pkg install drupal7' > > Sounds like your jail does not have public internet access. Is the > jails IP address being NATed by your hosts firewall? The jail does have internet access via NAT configured on our gateway router. Installing and updating packages from within the jail work fine. I can ssh in and out. I can ping the jail. I cannot ping out, but that is expected behaviour for a jail. > > Issuing "whois 9.9.9.9" from with in your running jail should return > results if the jail/host firewall is configured correctly. > > You really need to post details about what steps you did before more > people can help you. I regret is my original question was perfunctory. The issue seems to me to be one of a missing component or php module rather than anything to do with network connectivity. I initially took a too literal approach to installing Drush as there exists a package for it. I installed Drush within the jail via pkg install and things work fine. I am not sure what the issue is with php because I can wget the file from inside the jail, I just cannot get the recommended php command to work. # wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar --2017-01-17 09:18:43-- https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar Resolving s3.amazonaws.com (s3.amazonaws.com)... 54.231.80.243 Connecting to s3.amazonaws.com (s3.amazonaws.com)|54.231.80.243|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 6135132 (5.9M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: 'drush.phar' drush.phar 100%[=======================>] 5.85M 1.20MB/s in 5.0s 2017-01-17 09:18:58 (1.17 MB/s) - 'drush.phar' saved [6135132/6135132] # php -r "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > drush PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on line 1 PHP Warning: readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line 1 I ran across references to 'extension=php_openssl.dll' in php.ini having some bearing on this elsewhere (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5444249/unable-to-find-the-wrapper-https-did-you-forget-to-enable-it-when-you-config) but I cannot see that a .dll and FreeBSD have much in common. None-the-less I checked this and found these references: # grep php_openssl /usr/local/etc/* /usr/local/etc/php.ini:;extension=php_openssl.dll /usr/local/etc/php.ini-development:;extension=php_openssl.dll /usr/local/etc/php.ini-production:;extension=php_openssl.dll Changing the commented reference in /usr/local/etc/php.ini gives the dismal results I anticipated: # php -r "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > drush PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on line 1 PHP Warning: readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line 1 Fortunately, the packaged version of Drush installed cleanly and works fine. The only mystery I have is why the errors only occur in the jail. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Tue, January 17, 2017 00:35, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> This past week I have been setting up a jail for a drupal7 >>> website. I am now at the point where I need to update the >>> modules and I would like to employ the drush cli utility. >>> To install this on a Drupal7 website it is suggested to run >>> this command in the Drupal document root: >>> >>> >>> php -r >>> "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > >>> drush >>> >>> However, when I run this inside the jail then I see this error, >>> >>> PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did >>> you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line >>> code on line 1 >>> PHP Warning: >>> readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): >>> failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command >>> line code on line 1. >>> >>> If I run the same command on the host system of the jail then I >>> do not get this error. What am I missing with respect to the >>> jailed setup? >>> >> >> I have no idea what Drupal is and you provided no details about how >> you populated the jail with it. So just a shot in the dark. > > Thanks you for your reply. Drupal is a Web Content Management System. > Drush is an ancillary project that automates numerous common > maintenance tasks involving a Drupal installation. Both Drupal and > Drush are written in PHP. Drupal was installed using 'pkg install > drupal7' > >> >> Sounds like your jail does not have public internet access. Is the >> jails IP address being NATed by your hosts firewall? > > The jail does have internet access via NAT configured on our gateway > router. Installing and updating packages from within the jail work > fine. I can ssh in and out. I can ping the jail. I cannot ping out, > but that is expected behaviour for a jail. > >> >> Issuing "whois 9.9.9.9" from with in your running jail should return >> results if the jail/host firewall is configured correctly. >> >> You really need to post details about what steps you did before more >> people can help you. > > I regret is my original question was perfunctory. The issue seems to > me to be one of a missing component or php module rather than anything > to do with network connectivity. > > I initially took a too literal approach to installing Drush as there > exists a package for it. I installed Drush within the jail via pkg > install and things work fine. > > I am not sure what the issue is with php because I can wget the file > from inside the jail, I just cannot get the recommended php command to > work. > > # wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar > --2017-01-17 09:18:43-- > https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar > Resolving s3.amazonaws.com (s3.amazonaws.com)... 54.231.80.243 > Connecting to s3.amazonaws.com > (s3.amazonaws.com)|54.231.80.243|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 6135132 (5.9M) [application/octet-stream] > Saving to: 'drush.phar' > > drush.phar 100%[=======================>] 5.85M 1.20MB/s > in 5.0s > > 2017-01-17 09:18:58 (1.17 MB/s) - 'drush.phar' saved [6135132/6135132] > > > # php -r > "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > > drush > PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you > forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on > line 1 > PHP Warning: > readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed > to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line > 1 > > > I ran across references to 'extension=php_openssl.dll' in php.ini > having some bearing on this elsewhere > (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5444249/unable-to-find-the-wrapper-https-did-you-forget-to-enable-it-when-you-config) > but I cannot see that a .dll and FreeBSD have much in common. > None-the-less I checked this and found these references: > > # grep php_openssl /usr/local/etc/* > /usr/local/etc/php.ini:;extension=php_openssl.dll > /usr/local/etc/php.ini-development:;extension=php_openssl.dll > /usr/local/etc/php.ini-production:;extension=php_openssl.dll > > Changing the commented reference in /usr/local/etc/php.ini gives the > dismal results I anticipated: > > # php -r > "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > > drush > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you > forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on > line 1 > PHP Warning: > readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed > to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line > 1 > > > Fortunately, the packaged version of Drush installed cleanly and works > fine. The only mystery I have is why the errors only occur in the > jail. > > I think this may be more of a php issue. I haven't set up Drupal in a jail but I know php and I know jails. Here are my thoughts. php can have multiple .ini files, one file for the webserver, (Apache, Nginx, etc.) and another one for running from the command line. If you search for php.ini on your system and find two (or more) , that could be the issue, you could have different settings in the two .php files. There are a couple of gotchas about jails. You don't have access to devices or other items that some programs require, unless you set them up. Some programs or specific commands may need access to specific parts of the kernel. Postgresql (for example) requires access to System V flags, which operate at the kernel level and require some extra set up steps to get working in a jail. If you are having problems, try and figure out what parts of the system a program needs access to and then try and figure out if the jail has that access, or if you need to simulate it, etc. Good Luck Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 19:37:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E5CB46CF for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 153F0139E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 11:37:16 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170117094218.104c86e1@curlew.lan> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <2a578c14-d0f7-cf2e-a0c1-2a1d57f1faf8@holgerdanske.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 11:37:15 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170117094218.104c86e1@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:37:19 -0000 On 01/17/17 01:42, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 > David Christensen wrote: > >> Therefore, I have been evaluating various BSD distributions over the >> past several weeks using a computer with an Intel DQ67SW motherboard, >> i7-2600S CPU, 8 GB RAM, and 16 GB SATA SSD: > > [snip] > >> So, I am making a second attempt at FreeBSD using: >> >> FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img > > Though not directly relevant to your question the i386 image is > a 32 bit system so you'd get better performance if you installed > FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img instead to take full advantage > of your 64 bit processor and all 8GB of your RAM. Thanks for the reply. 1. I also have some 32-bit machines, and would prefer one distribution for all of them. 2. If I find that I need more than 4 GB (3 GB?) of RAM, I'll either recompile with the PAE option or switch to 64-bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 21:03:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12967CB4A2B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE9551DC6 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:03:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:03:26 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:03:29 -0000 On 01/17/17 00:24, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > I apologize for the recent double-post, sent from both email addresses by > accident. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 21:00:31 -0800 David Christensen > wrote: >> Can I replace my /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf with the following? >> >> # /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/dpchrist.conf >> >> Section "Files" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "freetype" >> EndSection > > Yes, just name your file something like 20-dpchrist.conf. But I reccomend > 20-fonts.conf so you know what the file does. Done -- thanks. :-) Here is a startx capture from 'startx' through Xfce running: Script started on Tue Jan 17 11:46:26 2017 Command: startx xauth: file /home/dpchrist/.serverauth.1036 does not exist X.Org X Server 1.17.4 Release Date: 2015-10-28 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p7 i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD freebsd 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 12 January 2017 06:45:48AM Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 17 11:46:26 2017 (==) Using config directory: "/usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 xfce4-session: No GPG agent found DBG[workspaces.c:456] xfce_workspaces_helper_wait_for_window_manager_destroyed(): found window manager after 1 tries Where can I find information for setting up a GPG agent for XFCE on FreeBSD 11.0? > On a very big tangent, most of the Desktop Environments still have strong ties > to GNU/Linux distributions. I personally recommend you try Lumina or switch to a > WM-only setup for most optimal tweak-free experience. That's not to say that you > can't do it, but... give it a thoght. Just my two cents. :) I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for installing Lumina. I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for configuring XDM to choose between multiple desktop environments. (But, I do see a link to the xdm(1) man page and STFW I see a few pages with XDM on FreeBSD 10.) Where can I find information for: 1. Installing Lumina on FreeBSD 11.0? 2. Installing a desktop manager (xdm, lightdm, whatever) on FreeBSD 11.0 and configuring it to work with multiple desktop environments? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 22:30:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B64CCB4C00 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x236.google.com (mail-lf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3E301C34 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id v186so119860488lfa.1 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:30:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hAHxpvjA+QVnQt/9/8lxnkI0CRkawuaKr/Zy3PUuO2o=; b=VVNccbHIe7sUeUfMAt09qGD/CGiNw1Ru7yTlX+Bl0sqrIlgl4VF8gbGSzntQvaUdmJ Ntj3s7UyJ985MsmFBqw6mbA1ph1lzx7fCw2DgrEQWiC0AM2I4Lg7YBKUWoaSchkHsvD8 h9lWHZvuVgWxrw7/YLyDysAWx7sjgdQgJmUfG8Zb9pF2NHtSHjGpbNFz000FIic5LVJI xwwqq7+XLDIWiNNLKbm6RsnibbLCAdsJ9aonICO418WVmZYb9pmaUuowTxTTiobFOrbJ 3MKYN9liXmGXcgiRsVdEaMb3AkmkATBCzjP3++gBeMjaRWikIZwyXaL/ylI0IjZ8UVfK IkRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hAHxpvjA+QVnQt/9/8lxnkI0CRkawuaKr/Zy3PUuO2o=; b=LnNPqtpL1jYXhwiFw3W05qt8TqMMxHsaTU/A+gyqmyqLMjtc/fzP64OOkV1C5+V6jP Ls1JSs2bcZydSbfmN3l6OQIgxu3lMKkniB9CYRIyvASJvDI2QWbVJLt8d8CofPaZNLNO HXtmNHk9uWSL+rlalO5wzcCRq7CegASZHhNFF+4Lnhn2GO1D2+Q4Dql9DbW8xlf40I8K CgRjdx45mpFTK+z6xFQW4muITlv1rpwAkuVFAMTMgzG4qDg/ExGfjYJyKolT7h2ibOvD V65G0tmitcOfoUoV6rxUxqhv2bGwq7fDfOfHSwCbGZ70LCqA8Ru21/78wb3BUxylEtTC qdXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJRuMtQUVgWIs075HdMuDpw/ACxgCJsES8Whz6UU0GkUjQfykn8HMIdh4q4/UUTHBDYAv0Zhd9fOdlo5w== X-Received: by 10.46.72.10 with SMTP id v10mr2254lja.46.1484692233595; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:30:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.79.15 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.79.15 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: pkg install avrdude wants to deinstall firefox To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:30:36 -0000 Resending here from freebsd-ports@ ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: "Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa" Fecha: 16 ene. 2017 18:19 Asunto: pkg install avrdude wants to deinstall firefox Para: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Cc: Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2. When I try to install avrdude, I get this: $ pkg install avrdude Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. The following 9 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): Installed packages to be REMOVED: firefox-50.1.0_3,1 New packages to be INSTALLED: avrdude: 6.3 libftdi1: 1.3_2 boost-libs: 1.63.0_1 libconfuse: 2.7_2 Installed packages to be UPGRADED: icu: 57.1,1 -> 58.2,1 harfbuzz: 1.3.4 -> 1.4.1 texlive-base: 20150521_13 -> 20150521_14 qt5-core: 5.6.1_1 -> 5.6.2_1 Number of packages to be removed: 1 Number of packages to be installed: 4 Number of packages to be upgraded: 4 The process will require 21 MiB more space. 25 MiB to be downloaded. Why is this operation trying to remove firefox? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 17 22:39:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B529CB5247 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4CB212BE for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6DCC1A267E for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:39:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484692782; bh=OAJF1LSpslvF+nUfuCtBqj3gX+YJWppBdAO8E4FVGP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=bgCALZxQuBLW8ou+abcRYtlaGsxYkPANEN/IsiPCxFC0PR/MFUPPE0hbyBcL5ski5 OBFZL2qgEH6F9x3aC8bkIYy2gxd75XIYyYEyPoW+8oIUGqkS/fKm2haXzEwBfdxADo o5xAtJzsh0h2WDHpB7QfBIPX+OzO9N0SVwweeDPU= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 5EDCA41F5A Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:39:40 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170117173940.6b092b9e@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/Jlj=B32z8UEdubdK7ViXgTd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:39:44 -0000 --Sig_/Jlj=B32z8UEdubdK7ViXgTd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:03:26 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > Where can I find information for setting up a GPG agent for XFCE on=20 > FreeBSD 11.0? Try installing the 'gnupg' package. > I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for installing Lumina. Install package 'lumina' and add "start-lumina-desktop" to your .xinitrc >=20 > I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for configuring XDM to=20 > choose between multiple desktop environments. (But, I do see a link to=20 > the xdm(1) man page and STFW I see a few pages with XDM on FreeBSD 10.) The only DM I've ever used on FBSD is x11/slim and that seemed to work okay. Unfortunately, I can't answer for other DMs, I just use the old .xinitrc/startx approach on pretty much everything nowadays. If you use a lot of environments, you could write a little dialog/text selection script in your .xinitrc, but I imagine that isn't what you are looking for. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/Jlj=B32z8UEdubdK7ViXgTd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAlh+nSwACgkQxKRHP62A DZnn0BAAsryAM2ooN6zflVERF0UFHo1xp7qfCo+Q+X4q9jbApWOcxzRzAFblvGtX LhIdq24Pxsn2R739eQo7V7q1fNECXmRbcuVtqaBYm6MtBcfpUz+7FjBCMHyyaakP 2o+ElGBtYSaeb+BczLMXDy+rmf4VFsv1nBAfEd/adI6TdOd7Urh80jd99t2hjI8E GDSXtHkPYvpVnH3q3yubd7RPak3QPrSKh9GfeciJlGmOr9mrGN5jUYPM5awIZGEJ LftIY9/4UJ2BaUzNIFwgqE1zVNFsWwdDrT8PJo10MutHtCpTx7GggmELZ4ZEGKWQ /elEOUOH2WSml7+vyTRi3YrXsh5dVF86ZkUt+679JH3TPmEJ3Km143Zmy5c2rAyJ OKLJPefaqjk6Rk39WE+q5twTpkFVK/iBE/blYspIIKRSg2XLM0ESPB1VVbxu95kw Z/U8cn4N4uUSuSMxXPq86WkHarHXEIEhZBs3IHeW2+rjiESnP4lkWVatgLT7KS94 QFOClheybccz0PUckX638RZxB7suwe4sTYugy5FqNMzjVadTqViUAB5NZdUkSl7P G4DaMps/rNb8J+BLzT+lrISS2Tvrdv310xLOyoWH68nT+ZdpzKewWTy1WXcUz9+Z EYh9nZcRtf8M3TPe1JVwMxJEDxvCpUkSPOYMApei+jF4CHvoSY4= =1GxU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Jlj=B32z8UEdubdK7ViXgTd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 02:25:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61410CB50C0 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FE1511B8 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:30300] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id 40/C4-03829-AD1DE785; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:24:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:23:57 +0000 Message-ID: <40.C4.03829.AD1DE785@dnvrco-omsmta03> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> <20170117173940.6b092b9e@riseup.net> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 02:25:39 -0000 > The only DM I've ever used on FBSD is x11/slim and that seemed to work okay. > Unfortunately, I can't answer for other DMs, I just use the > old .xinitrc/startx approach on pretty much everything nowadays. > If you use a lot of environments, you could write a little dialog/text > selection script in your .xinitrc, but I imagine that isn't what you are > looking for. > Cheers, > Sergei Akhmatdinov I don't use xdm. I put configuration files in /usr/local/etc/X11/xinit/ and then startx /usr/local/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.icewm For other window managers, I usr xinitrc.jwm, xinitrc.twm, etc in place of xinitrc.icewm . I remember Xfce includes startxfce4. Building and installing Xorg from FreeBSD ports does not include xdm; however building Xorg from NetBSD pkgsrc (which I have done only on NetBSD) includes xdm with the meta-package. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 03:26:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19264CB413C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-f195.google.com (mail-io0-f195.google.com [209.85.223.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E38C413E2 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-f195.google.com with SMTP id 101so370214iom.0 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:26:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=1ULYqLBYJwcA1QSfiB9NedlLWM1ITP8uS3oDg4fN4bM=; b=gu4i3W4PFCiTW9GxKMTdvC+dfYSjCMuCgMXIOkO8LCvxcjl+cn9MPRMPi9dZMHyt7E e8fOCrrETdCjGvamtEod5HfN5FJcC9tnaKL1jCRrNDaPgn7ZSp16AHUon26GayqvS+Mo XT/zIevBEPHoPGMBTUbSVtyY2Efv+d3uLnCrnJEUEEQwJy0K9drm/GjObRvWPjnrEIMT DFlyOtLa0Msupg+Kvd7dAmoBFMburG2HDPyUGcT5gBU4lU1JkhXXClVU/bEpHSUSSqO7 cqOUjqaaY8euMyMEttndj9q9clBACEK6iKTJd/bel/CJq9519DGFwX8Yq7hrfXocQ/tH EDzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJf167MZicR1vNAcal+FX6YG1JDDd/igkuXeaahrt8rUtCy/hEx2PHHbE2ksqaAiQ== X-Received: by 10.107.129.222 with SMTP id l91mr1246420ioi.194.1484704014554; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorkBox.homestead.org ([184.97.235.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l3sm201046iof.33.2017.01.17.17.46.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (WorkBox.homestead.org [local]) by WorkBox.homestead.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id baec65d8; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:46:52 -0600 (CST) References: User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 25.1.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Arthur Chance Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Boot environments and /var - what should be shared/unshared? In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:46:51 -0600 Message-ID: <86h94xcf78.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:26:27 -0000 Arthur Chance writes: > I've been using beadm boot environments for a while now, but still > haven't seen a definitive reference for which parts of /var should be > shared across boot environments and which should be per environment. Is > there such a document, or is everybody still busking it? > > Some top level directories in /var seem fairly obviously in need of > sharing, others less so, and /var/db seems to be a horrible mix of stuff > that could be shared across releases and stuff that might break horribly > if shared over major revisions. (That's "might" because I have no idea > if it would in practice.) > > I doubt whether any of this would matter (except for space) if one > simply rolled forward monotonically, but a roll back because of > problems, or simply switching between development environments, could > lose necessary updates if the directory hadn't been shared when it > should have been. I suppose I can't give you a "definitive reference," but I selected things to omit from boot environments based on advice in the book /FreeBSD Mastery: Advanced ZFS" by Michael W. Lucas and Alan Jude. Here's what I've got, follow by the reasoning behind it: | NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT | workbox/VARIABLE 3.82M 72.5G 144K none | workbox/VARIABLE/crash 144K 72.5G 144K /var/crash | workbox/VARIABLE/log 2.86M 497M 1.80M /var/log | workbox/VARIABLE/mail 340K 72.5G 196K /var/mail | workbox/VARIABLE/tmp 360K 72.5G 144K /var/tmp 1. /var/crash, /var/tmp: The contents of these directories are supposed to store non-volatile data, some of which is relevant to recovery. You don't want it disappearing after a reboot, or want to have to find and mount an extra ZFS dataset in order to access it. 2. /var/mail, /var/log: Mail and logs are generated by applications as well as the base system, and are time-sensitive. You don't want these skipping around through time at all, but it's more egregious if you lose a day's worth of logs for your web server because something in the base system got messed up. That's exactly the sort of thing the BSD filesystem hierarchy was designed to prevent in the first place. I've also got a couple datasets mounted in /var, but as children of another tree: | workbox/APPS 6.26G 72.5G 5.42G /usr/local | workbox/APPS/config 7.17M 72.5G 6.22M /usr/local/etc | workbox/APPS/pkgCache 238M 2.77G 236M /var/cache/pkg | workbox/APPS/pkgDB 162M 72.5G 81.5M /var/db/pkg This way I can roll back package upgrades all at once without touching anything else on the system. I used to handle packages/ports within boot environments, but decided to separate them once I realized that doing so could make them grow pretty large with successive upgrades. Having your ports/packages tied to boot environments is really only useful when tracking -CURRENT or performing a major version upgrade, so I see it as a waste to constantly take up space in preparation for something that happens once every couple years, for which I'll have ample warning and preparation. Someone else might come along with better ideas, but I suspect a lot of it depends on taste and personal need. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 04:12:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C35CB501C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 04:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 785FF1943 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 04:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:13:54 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7F7A3CC3F; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:12:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0I4C5Of002059; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:12:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:12:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-Id: <20170118051205.f9fd373e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with D6AB669DE8C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2369 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 04:12:19 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:03:26 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > Where can I find information for setting up a GPG agent for XFCE on > FreeBSD 11.0? Probably you'll find that in the Xfce documentation (which might be primarily targeted at Linux, but you can "translate" the stuff anyway). > I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for installing Lumina. It shouldn't be more complicated than "pkg install lumina" and looking for a possible post-install message text. I've been trying this on FreeBSD 10 a few months ago, and all you need to to is install the package and then add the line to start Lumina to ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession (depending on your use of a display manager). > I don't see instructions in the FreeBSD manual for configuring XDM to > choose between multiple desktop environments. (But, I do see a link to > the xdm(1) man page and STFW I see a few pages with XDM on FreeBSD 10.) This is because XDM cannot choose between multiple desktop environments. :-) If you're searching for a _simple_ display manager which can do this, check out wdm, the WindowMaker display manager. It has a built-in dialog to choose "which .xsession" to execute, and simply add .xsession files for all the desktops you want to be able to select from - if I remember correctly, it is more than 10 years ago that I tried that. > Where can I find information for: > > 1. Installing Lumina on FreeBSD 11.0? Just install it, that should be sufficient. > 2. Installing a desktop manager (xdm, lightdm, whatever) on FreeBSD > 11.0 and configuring it to work with multiple desktop environments? Check the documentation of whatever you installed. All this is not part of FreeBSD itself. Basically, there are two ways to do it: The "old way" (or "xdm way"): activate xdm in /etc/ttys: ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure Change "off" to "on". The "new way" (or "standard way"): add to /etc/rc.conf hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" polkitd_enable="YES" gnome_enable="YES" This is, for example, to activate gdm, the Gnome Display Manager. For KDE, the approach is similar. But as far as I know, gdm does not let you choose the desktop environment (it enforces Gnome), and it also doesn't even care for ~/.xsession. However, this stuff can easily be found in the FreeBSD Gnome project documentation. For reference: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-xdm.html https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=xfree86&query=xdm https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ https://wiki.freebsd.org/Gnome https://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE https://wiki.lxde.org/en/FreeBSD https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/58140/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 05:21:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F39CB5F11 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yudi.tux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x234.google.com (mail-it0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05FAD1114 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yudi.tux@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 203so110694215ith.0 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:21:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dK7MCmkLXCqTpPLeUTP5b3ZRLBGWE2cF7bZcP3BWCuc=; b=MO5EYUqQ1BL/VIFV1qSE2Kn4lrvPr8w6EimZxgaHNQGS9eSg93jIfY4dz51iw0NTEG JGBMP7V1pBmkk2HmjBYQJsYdKvouz2T148HgitFzeposdhbbtW8wu4Uwcww+XyV9qvCC PFkBG1MSZRjU6S3aFCD8761hF2OiSz9GQDP/2p7hUc/9UotCGVibbcX05fuLIzTSUKGg cxwV0lrX1YXEVVMcDg6WtJ0ZJFEzP27vnoml+ezBHV3tkGv6H/JBFN2lyTn3FVO6pBk3 5eODGbv+R/H3k1Ig4Dk9BQZwF7bJAp+RFXjdMzVi8ts0hZx8R5gnxLuQ+eyIzwerX28P bSAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dK7MCmkLXCqTpPLeUTP5b3ZRLBGWE2cF7bZcP3BWCuc=; b=Lz4uM7+vuBvvO8Uzad+n2KbSHJt80GXxPJRmrGJiHnGq2AMcQlWNdspXWF7Kd/AMwV lU1Vo8E3CKa+zVXcP5cd/MyRSFWgCPklfesvB9a2y/OP0q07nEVhCEhkO5FEcs4DeAXt 0FzSRgYuLOTdpF2Q2i0WxFnTz6JHmzknDO1QSd2JPAHAkFzXAtaC1K7HStcSlzVot4PB fqmENjZssZpd8xgf0TRCxlf+3MS6k/6TuiblTbOPoBDlzTdDJuHkYH+6/fXabNHVaKJw OrP3csAjtLdqw8OnATmYccsl0w/TyZog5S06w2GDLkcDWs6Gq3QeQv/HOT1RUPvpvaQU lhMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJAxpDzQpdn+ufOi7dn2SOkHuF+lpDjwi4n2666vbn+x9SNMl6qjxslT7GBCAI5UOsTJySiL+kwSvwwxg== X-Received: by 10.36.51.143 with SMTP id k137mr24401548itk.11.1484716915002; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:21:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.133.210 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:21:54 -0800 (PST) From: Yudi V Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:21:54 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: issues upgrading from 10.1-RELEASE to 11-RELEASE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:21:56 -0000 hi I tried updating from 10.1 to 11-RELEASE, did not go well. current system: $ uname -a FreeBSD xxxxxxx 10.1-RELEASE-p41 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p41 #0: Fri Oct 21 23:03:01 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 first I cloned the OS filesystem and then booted to the cloned fiesystem and then upgraded the OS following: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/installation.html also read https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/relnotes.html#upgrade did not notice anything that suggested I would run into problems. Steps I followed: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install # freebsd-update upgrade -r 11.0-RELEASE Error: # freebsd-update upgrade -r 11.0-RELEASE Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 10.1-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic world/base world/doc world/lib32 The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: src/src world/games Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 11.0-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... done. The update metadata is correctly signed, but failed an integrity check. Cowardly refusing to proceed any further. Solution is to upgrade to 10.3 first as suggested by someone in the IRC channel. freebsd-update upgrade -r 10.3-RELEASE # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install //installs userland components # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install // rebuilds 3rd party apps # shutdown -r now // final reboot EVerything looked fine with 10.3 upgrade, proceeded to 11-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update upgrade -r 11.0-RELEASE //no errors this time, # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now # freebsd-update install //installs userland components # freebsd-update install # shutdown -r now // final reboot after reboot, logged in and tried: $ screen Shared object "libelf.so.1" not found, required by "screen" SAMBA failed sanity check, $ pkg update Shared object "libssl.so.7" not found, required by "pkg" Again someone in the IRC channel suggested I try # pkg-static install -f pkg to fix the pkg issue. and to fix all of them, they suggested I do: #fetch http://ftp0.bme.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/11.0-RELEASE/base.txz; tar -xzf base.txz -C / --exclude etc Before I go ahead and replace the base system files, I would like to know what went wrong. because I cloned the OS filesystem, I can go back and re-do it properly if the problem was at my end. Any suggestions? or should I log a PR? regards Yudi From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 05:57:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A832CB371E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E37761276 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E84681A21E4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:57:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484719028; bh=nFUauNs545qSADzZGw98yUQo4US/mIICOeR9gSMhyTw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=KXG1ssGWOe52SNmejZ2ZfYJhvlWAlYydyK4kVkNHcH166oqTuRV2Vz32kRDKb/+rD KxBAK/0ekbQ4qrC8EDKj3OtichTY3KMw9HU5Iy9XztoCOb7Jr6nwol8VXnDT2XDua6 XIV9GiU5XYyVSvl1n7aoW2Xa+UPGpiXD1z3mMpF8= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 55D531C26C7 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 00:57:05 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues upgrading from 10.1-RELEASE to 11-RELEASE Message-ID: <20170118005705.06385eba@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/ekKRVURu9B0j=iiKcKvR.wx"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 05:57:15 -0000 --Sig_/ekKRVURu9B0j=iiKcKvR.wx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:21:54 +1100 Yudi V wrote: > I tried updating from 10.1 to 11-RELEASE, did not go well. > current system: > [snip] > Before I go ahead and replace the base system files, I would like to know > what went wrong.=20 > because I cloned the OS filesystem, I can go back and re-do it properly if > the problem was at my end. > Any suggestions? > or should I log a PR? My guess is that your binaries were compiled for 10.X, but 11.0 overwrote t= he required shared libraries, so now the old binaries cannot find them. Do core utilities (ls/cd/man and such) work? Try upgrading all of your packages after your install the kernel and reboot, but before you install the world (userland). It doesn't look like you did t= hat, judging by your message. I am not sure that blindly extracting base into your FS would really fix th= ings. You *may* be able to get away with fixing pkg and upgrading your system as = it is now. Otherwise, I am certain that rebuilding all installed packages from ports w= ould fix things. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/ekKRVURu9B0j=iiKcKvR.wx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAlh/A7EACgkQxKRHP62A DZkMyw/7BP7x0NrPFrdGAzsN77MEEGRiXyWvZcBz1lwUG87h2olQA3j4FfmOMpGR plxrT1Yv7ci5qpyhB1vuhQNAuf1bJmcm8vZFGO3UV4Rb1vr+bBQKHuhM9OEqPFq3 mUF4BT1clrvYxF+X/bd/ZN9tEkxuBoyINTMt59bW+bE5epmtnQl0Q92r7ZfqPvuI FHCqi4qZFQUTi/hLhEjFQSyvm2O1y1Bl+KbH/FBsG3h8qQV0whVwUBeT/c7E7kQE WBKTSn3Rq7CaV3ywk6OUZeBp0XK8ZrT+jDW8pMbg4O+bDjkLkABlRRQhyiHFztbg YhtEmLaw7g1hqR3Ut5ruq57OuBIzCK4EvRcUHBoVxcA8kdq1hEK0+HPoCXmjlE1t fAJ5kZ2j05xJeBtLiBrd3OMBpNLhoECfMAvu6celbuvmU5mwXjCKZc73hM9gXxA4 vUo6XbcNwN8f4b6redPmFatAWs2+OX5l7EBOala+usKsuWsf6RkzMwf4hChICNAQ khXYtklJrV8X905FS5mqvE+KoxiFW78AKoLFQeviuGVP/W/Euz623f0EBuHrT23G nCypiEW+VDKwrvWcM7g5QbYhbPyjExLTk7T/bm/l9lYT8h9IPsYy+A+KD890cPnF v9ny96iWGflNn/60Z1IqFdcOezp9WSBzF0UyrBEkvclbRFKElVo= =7kJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ekKRVURu9B0j=iiKcKvR.wx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 06:04:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A582CCB3B4C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C4D7178B for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3AC61A25E1; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:03:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484719439; bh=qJcJzUXSJwOb4nSxMinatOwho5zMz/Z4WCTLjuxs5OY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=kZ4UtUqarNKsOXt9qGwYkd3mfO260GQJSvobmw0yggGIFo3RhR9YNiRJiazSOL4Xm ypx/cSU9Dvu+kSHt5yzpR6KROhBtS0fT6ZxfCNTyZjqOkmdTEENwvAlJj/rwcy6k3H MDZB2fYiqrtPJo5wTY+NJ348LOEuDmGsvnHwrz9A= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 1428A1C2764 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:03:57 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Does someone keep track of how long it takes to buildworld/kernel? Message-ID: <20170118010357.01ab00fd@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <20170117050854.f964d143.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170117050854.f964d143.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/FKavqEEjRhYpBTWsEzWr.1b"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:04:00 -0000 --Sig_/FKavqEEjRhYpBTWsEzWr.1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just did a world+kernel after the recent OpenSSH announcement. World took 2h13m, kernel took 10m. I usually run time -lh with my makes, bu= t I accidentally closed my terminal and forgot to log the full output, so I'll = just give you real time from memory. I'm running 11-STABLE, kernel is custom. CPU: Intel Core i5-3210M 2.50GHz 8GB of RAM Running ZFS and using ccache for world and kernel. I recall kernel taking a= bout 30 minutes to compile on first run, so it looks like ccache shaved that by a lot. Don't recall how long it took to make world the first time. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/FKavqEEjRhYpBTWsEzWr.1b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAlh/BU0ACgkQxKRHP62A DZmqkQ/+Lo8A8r5xXj2WnTJuuXKe3wxiWIdZBV2g1ZkeB8dIFuD2Z+iuIjMlg6NJ ZcwUEkvU21ED98Pf+6oamxrs5WQsN+vBK0PagjjsqgeYKL/5wfI1r6Q1wQTCzTfa qIrOu3T0H6Gg3MCA5VfCPwSxkw5wlEEM2w4+wR0lrjlhrPJFrHjTWcR96w/Wxl8T lKV10r5szw/Gv8hEJ7AjCAZNy+fJaAbgzaf8KfGu4vLftxfltL4JGW0x+Jg6ErJR fPJWoftZxuWHziQkd1EJXSTAU5wiTAFU5fmYmSjUQCFNVwLGBIKRJMOqy9cLt4+c orYhD0hJSxBM4neH3rfY/lVuMJ9MaDXEFNn4O5O3WVbqLjC5U9EHGuWjK8hVym1O 2qVWlrD1PyGCVGtGyOQvyWSngE0ot5RCwp89MxJc6HD5Aal8ACASlBGAVZGCs3YE r4YmrGX6uwkb8nzZuopaow58/aXObtyQ3yd/jtZkesmfjvDBXeELLfXDDA7KYMzD ckDjm/2Lamvwly0fabapEIioxaUJsVi+caI28Mi4W3r0Zf3gn7XOH9FVcl3MehXv q2sTV/s/dR4alEktr8AtSKE90w/s8Uuc3GpyoCI3NEoqk9kJcvPF5hItrjhja0St tpDpTfrwFdYNiu1GwvZAi86YrnwP3HbQxFopJgP61+xa4Es2XRk= =G70Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/FKavqEEjRhYpBTWsEzWr.1b-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 06:39:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C57CB42B3 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A73551226 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0I6UtpE042371 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0I6UtEa042368; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:56 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:39:14 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: > On 01/16/17 20:05, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. > > >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:16:59 -0800 >> David Christensen wrote: >>> [snip] >> >> First of all, using your own Xorg.conf is very deprecated, I suggest you >> allow X to configure itself, i.e., remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > > dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ l /etc/X11/ > ./ ../ > > >> and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf files and simply run startx. > > I generated xorg.conf.new per the manual section 5.4.8: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html The Quick Start section at the very top shows the right way to do this. That is, do not generate an xorg.conf at all. Way down in the Manual Configuration section, it says: In some cases, Xorg autoconfiguration does not work with particular hardware, or a different configuration is desired. For these cases, a custom configuration file can be created. This is clearly not emphatic enough. It should say: DO NOT GENERATE AN XORG.CONF FILE UNLESS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED! I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I have not investigated that. >> Do you have both hald and dbus running? Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require hal, don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 06:55:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7A3CB47B6 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7C8619B7 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id ZivG1u00G07iGuj01ivHPc; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:55:18 +0100 Received: from rsmith (uid 1001) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) id 12550 by slackbox.erewhon.home (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11+); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:55:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:55:16 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Yudi V Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues upgrading from 10.1-RELEASE to 11-RELEASE Message-ID: <20170118065516.GA41788@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Yudi V , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 06:55:27 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 04:21:54PM +1100, Yudi V wrote: > hi >=20 > I tried updating from 10.1 to 11-RELEASE, did not go well. Looks like the base system update went OK. > after reboot, logged in and tried: > $ screen > Shared object "libelf.so.1" not found, required by "screen" > SAMBA failed sanity check, > $ pkg update > Shared object "libssl.so.7" not found, required by "pkg" > Before I go ahead and replace the base system files, I would like to know > what went wrong. It looks like all your problems are with *ports*. After a major version update it is *strongly recommended* that you first *delete* all ports/packages and then update your ports tree and re-install them. This because of shared library version updates. You can do this by making a list of all "leaf" packages (before deleting); = packages that have dependencies but are not depended on with this command: pkg query -e '%#r =3D=3D 0' '%n-%v\t%o' This will list the current package name and origin. Save that to a file and keep it After you've made this list, delete all packages and re-install all leaf packages. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 07:45:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BE5CB570A; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B6A51F67; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de ([87.138.105.249]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfHs4-1cnhSR2QDw-00omeU; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:45:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:45:02 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-current , freebsd-questions Subject: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-ID: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> Organization: Walstatt X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:uwPveOnMkV7+lwzsJaOcKvbWwe37i2VuTTcmm63nvBIBDK5piji 9GC1bzMD4TqvkMFfeg2UdGN0Rymiq0Q3vQcF4iRIs36UIM+8rrXj88wVvHDKwiUrT0yfKaZ lqfA6yC/TXr6KgsQiSMxFzB5m+gW98LKAlRaIToV3rf85xDluIjjMAceFpJPawK6nBCtnkX dUEuidbtixl/7SdL4JkTA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:gldaXPYZlzM=:6uSJ7iOagpgx25HyZ6Ra5r FQQFnmrTyQh0u2AXSocJHaSPaKJVUQIyz8O+M/OUW+JzLrseR2Tg4smqqFglUfJq2i9CePuJx dIIyMEUaQnc9MowxgbOpJMEzM6b/lwk3J1Qo+ULIl8YyrmKnG+orCI/K+IrLw80ZlO3M2339S nYRjsO6nn1w65WYEe5CeOy1SOvl1glrSuikcDA19RVJXx4JVcokcxzkXgfdcfRecTyND+9Sg6 Wdgj6F1/S0cJVmDRT3OCCADKCgUlvAv59WP0DUvfZVPqTPuAoL2mEfdm78ULBl4fZYqmuXuF0 wRA6RuNB8WnnW4/qYDa/Ve2/DzEFvhJUW+a3BTgZAIAiJGW8v3+P50x1I+EDw3w6ZjmFTPM6O Ji5w5BS9ZAVyCMo2r6ebVJ004T1mtkIqlXvaa214vDFCyA/eVsWiCmlJfyYbEgtZzBAIpdN5X gLnqNu0ZumP8Yf13rmJUpK6dkyvKtfeKybaUybLKRrOhI5yIXCuSJg8c1j/okQdNvMVnxI3zo HNIsN1ilSkX6795R0Y5P6p9g2D4duCElEhtFuUddxWYfajF1Jzl7cnXyutySy88llxxSEIHyQ wuc0Px1ESW1jjzIAZd+hD5gEH8Zv8dIAg3RKosRB19kBF83s/K5ErqAiU23Eymud3oTYQ2RKJ z7oUI7RXRoqnHTakUADX0gnBCYEwQdhhcHe19PaXQZxuS5w56ucJJrXnsA8TQB7gv/Eh4/98H 2DU+RO+o5L5Ju1YECHAAvrOBCu3SBVq5geVExnH7pKeGT570CDfjzw8peJ3sMlc/mI3SOvyLW F7gAIrJiMOnvrX04OFGoi8pGkTDAn2Ka3kcFI1KVIrxllLUTm/T1P6CfW1Vm5OjdEQSHdBK3f UZETdw/xd9g2nN1pc+2mIjTXXQ9DNPLe64fhUZm03IbSKCSvAO+wSM5bQodgG0jMpQcL+MaZH EgSNET2K55Q/+K/3P0NItIAcH0gPAE5ZCOrobXfsiCKG3lbnhobieLRNaU7qVsRmjxL0xmjKL kLoDYpF+IqIKnVxjlIXL1UY/M1aaOybSI/zbuI/rXEfYGEUW7ps3Mk/ccZBLr7C78A== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:45:09 -0000 I ran into a very nasty situation where I need to save/restore/reinstall a in-installworld-crashed recent current. While the /usr/obj and /usr/src as well as /etc folders are intact (residing on a Samsung 850 pro SSD with UFS and journaling), /boot/kernel vanished and most binaries in /bin and /sbin are of Null size. I treid to rescue the system by intending to use the most recent CURRENT ISO image found on the snapshot server for USB drives, booted this successfully and then mounted the failes filesystems into the proper place (/usr/obj and /usr/src onto USB devices /usr/obj and /usr/src respectively, the rest goes into /mnt). I tried then to perform a make installworld with DESTDIR=/mnt set. But I fail: the minimalistic USB image does not have any CLANG/LLVM stuff required for the rescue! Where the hell did this stuff go? Has it been ripped off due to the 1 GB ancient flash size? Help is needed. I've already posted to CURRENT a message, but I guess I always hit the wrong subject line. It seems that the key to my saviour is to have a flash drive with a recent CURRENT containing a cc compiler - otherwise /usr/obj is useless. Kind reards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 08:20:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48536CB4B13 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EBCC197E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D40031A2677 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:20:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484727638; bh=tAuL1cHjLXKX2oRvNVIZ015Tc1ebHMKCbv+oH4sRtxc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=mahNeTT8jOqpsqMmyB8hf5cJnHSI0kL842I7xiza4JkaqL3YdqD2AiSq4eqfxRT0m SOfzKuPJTE0+VX4RoPGlJiS7dhfeIHnWh35N03wZ4ZYgZhS/PYuqsbi0raV9bb7AnR GvzRWsROU3/pRidFVhgwpIr/C5k+NtdUfF9ER8b4= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id DE4F6400B0 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 03:20:36 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/CzsFM/wu.gKdha+lV13FyY/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:20:40 -0000 --Sig_/CzsFM/wu.gKdha+lV13FyY/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I have= =20 > not investigated that. Only half obsolete. Loading "freetype" is no longer needed, but most font packages do not properly copy into Xorg's default font-paths, so you still = need to point to them. That, or manually copy the files over, which is what I do= . I find that a bit less fussy than adding a .conf and having to add a font-path every time I install a new font from ports. > >> Do you have both hald and dbus running? =20 >=20 > Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require=20 > hal, don't know. I have XFCE set up on my FBSD desktop, couldn't get it to show up restart-shutdown-etc without HAL running. Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a `shutdown (-r|-p) now` wrapper. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/CzsFM/wu.gKdha+lV13FyY/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAlh/JVQACgkQxKRHP62A DZloehAAozaMNI2upE5EVnLKhLdUmoqB9wS24Z6lCsym6uSrujq1YwW3z3FG0MLQ 2Y+JOaRFLpjsT9NMHZtU6/i0ev7fUDeWX3/QXnDLgDjjk0xdjOBxF7XXpJl3jNm9 gWLO1FK4VCJjX4321aUnugoXgVPdjnfS1MMV9MRfH1FGHtuUykPuFDsYqisjo7iV TQpXkoNw4EjLoWpDVjBjXu1NXfhf7hVIJl1otGNX/OA0qzJuU0PBk0nKZK4ND1C4 mT0kqS6ujO0nC5C5VxL+jiw22ITYoJwxqV+F6K+G5XLcVMA8GCujH84FP7+2vEBO wYd92lvvcyMAwsSUbWr+EKSajjvRPcw8vmMrjbuy4CwoRXmw/uuiK3F+k7QcephO v34MHGtOdcxhZQX1PXH1AH6NlRXca5006o7M2r6QR92J4i+RNcR0nOR2l+G6P5+F BrM/823bgxcjR7Wb25ZYyTI9C1fvSfgV+3uwsXYgnEr96b6Kadin/7HsAUzf/hSK 1RVw6YNEzbPV86pjt4Vvd8LKmfYLOjk9B202MwWtJWSTby6AzH5mNu68Wppir0jH n0C1R4KriJW0phYakI7licH3eaLMfONIc2rQR/5UQ83LcpQ9a5vKftOdKJeLv9/p MTn9jG24FJXxOM96c5OMf/vofcRQg1qY/KtDdNcZEmL95vJ6imM= =ZwMp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/CzsFM/wu.gKdha+lV13FyY/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 08:46:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E6CCB535C; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.21.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp-sofia.digsys.bg", Issuer "Digital Systems Operational CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE611885; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from [193.68.6.100] ([193.68.6.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v0I8i4JV003149 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:44:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) From: Daniel Kalchev Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:43:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> Cc: freebsd-current , freebsd-questions To: "O. Hartmann" References: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:46:46 -0000 I never use the pre-built ISO images for tasks like this. Here is a = script I use to build my own USB boot drive. The drive contains the full = OS to boot and also a copy used to create a new system. I make these = boot drives from time to time, to stay current. Please note the script = is few years old (for 9-stable) and you might want to twiddle with boot = partition size if they grew. You need to have done = bouildworld/buildkernel on the host before using this script. $ cat createuboot #!/bin/sh # target USB drive to write to disk=3Dda1 # use the current date for labels today=3D`date "+%Y%m%d"` # wipe out partition data form drive # do it twice to wipe more stuff (might not be needed anymore) gpart destroy -F $disk =20 gpart create -s GPT $disk gpart destroy -F $disk =20 # GPT label the drive gpart create -s GPT $disk =20 # bootstrap partition=20 gpart add -b 34 -s 128 -t freebsd-boot $disk =20 # partition for the OS gpart add -a 4k -t freebsd-ufs -l boot$today $disk=20 # write bootstrap code gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 $disk # format file system newfs /dev/gpt/boot$today # mount file system mount -o async /dev/gpt/boot$today /mnt # install FreeBSD cd /usr/src make installworld DESTDIR=3D/mnt make distribution DESTDIR=3D/mnt make installkernel DESTDIR=3D/mnt # Create new =E2=80=9Cclean=E2=80=9D copy of FreeBSD for later use mkdir -p /mnt/root/FreeBSD make installworld DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD make distribution DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD make installkernel DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD # copy scripts cp -r ~/scripts /mnt/root echo /dev/gpt/boot$today / ufs rw,noatime 0 1 > /mnt/etc/fstab umount /mnt You might add more customizations, such as dhclient and starting sshd in = /etc/rc.conf of the boot drive. Hope this helps=E2=80=A6 Daniel > On 18.01.2017 =D0=B3., at 9:45, O. Hartmann = wrote: >=20 > I ran into a very nasty situation where I need to = save/restore/reinstall a > in-installworld-crashed recent current. >=20 > While the /usr/obj and /usr/src as well as /etc folders are intact = (residing on > a Samsung 850 pro SSD with UFS and journaling), /boot/kernel vanished = and > most binaries in /bin and /sbin are of Null size. >=20 > I treid to rescue the system by intending to use the most recent = CURRENT ISO > image found on the snapshot server for USB drives, booted this = successfully and > then mounted the failes filesystems into the proper place (/usr/obj > and /usr/src onto USB devices /usr/obj and /usr/src respectively, the = rest goes > into /mnt). >=20 > I tried then to perform a make installworld with DESTDIR=3D/mnt set. = But I fail: > the minimalistic USB image does not have any CLANG/LLVM stuff required = for the > rescue! >=20 > Where the hell did this stuff go? Has it been ripped off due to the 1 = GB > ancient flash size?=20 >=20 > Help is needed. I've already posted to CURRENT a message, but I guess = I always > hit the wrong subject line. It seems that the key to my saviour is to = have a > flash drive with a recent CURRENT containing a cc compiler - otherwise = /usr/obj > is useless. >=20 > Kind reards, >=20 > Oliver > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 09:19:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24B7CB5793; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o.hartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20AA91BBC; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o.hartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de ([87.138.105.249]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZPer-1c8ge13kdx-00LH6T; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:19:17 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:19:15 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" To: Daniel Kalchev Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-ID: <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> Organization: Walstatt X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:yAsDvBK1spKeLkcbcD7AcO1hBXr2Uh/abwpkbONIuXlrjcy0vu6 SUoywfB7WDs3F2pFPSUviU+ZAceE4WzhdyPi6XkrfYPEC2H2rwAqxU+WLASGgU25JS1nWjS BsDbWJyS7flfM7gxe3fZEJbMzoe4SDkF9SbsGbCzpWoJ0RhUyKKIlQtRl4Bz/z1Ob/ivebI GZAZ5B1iZwJ3YZXvQEv/g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zYdVrKGA0vU=:3Q3KsoEgTYxdIwUDygNPEb 0sWmfzCLnEMT9nlNYBZ7kooJrAovi7hHuLZwwYyT5u9w/qefJKVm3oCY/q3kNLTf45/FI984E 0FzYiPW66TItVAXCMTDxnn1S2IHWKsyAS4aTVGE577vqkQAEEhpp+/dTt7TBO+EsC4JoCfgSm Rg9CGA1FNenMRaRWxN/uGX6Uu2sE/qgvQUS+m0yljvzbr/rkOGRjZ3+e44jsXVcUcG+H1DI5/ +qvT7KU9MiWK1UfL//dkfIZL7wxBbIYE/ftcLSiDekO62hm3si2/cZCTrsixKBH/fHFyt6aNq Tt0e7S1/YjSAnpkYWrPNDHn1NH8jemghQtV9KZnEQpe+u1JY6AYR96/PqGUDhfJvfgwGx3kQY jLSFDFRTTTlN2jMHmp0ikPXDE0R1DqFeoxnS/PVvgObQgxpYAyuHGwsL20Cq548yXaIch0ObK IuaZQWgVz8V5meQzqMVD+/pwF7KIfK8r9kADp/XePqA65tdt/ocx3hTAlZ42CvAlqv4fKvP/T 4EjjyA2Fx4wL/deyyMwTgcXmhdPFSg+0TNmMhmdVU9oY7x8oZ0bI3XeF51uUKZxloJtmws9cS NOLtl8eVoJ2lTUHFr079NjKx83mJfLHUOTJCCAxM2Zog+LEq9fe+v6Q9LFC7204p3EzUghRbv sN8dPvn+9liOvLi2uHSiD/6AgzuQ8XaGmXvsnLgQ8m/tsPMV8L5Yo4Aey4XcPMTT4gUNvqA7r SKMUTml1qnYT97bznBLQzuN0tWRSAMh2T3UGg0xwFA7pskRPe/ueIoYpzUFUATPsZT8BvTPCY iI3AnPnZ7nmpMexlGb8R2gq31t6BQlDWcIFiWS1+tjvM5Wfw0EKgX6heclDi6yhfybiTQ47Oa JMvvsiS3HaeFNwfWw5RV1r75ktwlrhH8SCW1ETlSq3CbwzmqLYoP3Wbt6uzTKHrQ78rJsznQr HQWT3CwFk7AqzN7jSPpn5XnMGjWFZBiQie2En8n+rZ22MgKsZ2rO1k/4REU5CfwO6H6MvlZ6l HMajr3qHUhOYla/Ise0ANW8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:19:40 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:43:58 +0200 Daniel Kalchev wrote: > I never use the pre-built ISO images for tasks like this. Here is a scrip= t I > use to build my own USB boot drive. The drive contains the full OS to boot > and also a copy used to create a new system. I make these boot drives from > time to time, to stay current. Please note the script is few years old (f= or > 9-stable) and you might want to twiddle with boot partition size if they > grew. You need to have done bouildworld/buildkernel on the host before us= ing > this script. >=20 > $ cat createuboot > #!/bin/sh > # target USB drive to write to > disk=3Dda1 > # use the current date for labels > today=3D`date "+%Y%m%d"` > # wipe out partition data form drive > # do it twice to wipe more stuff (might not be needed anymore) > gpart destroy -F $disk =20 > gpart create -s GPT $disk > gpart destroy -F $disk =20 > # GPT label the drive > gpart create -s GPT $disk =20 > # bootstrap partition=20 > gpart add -b 34 -s 128 -t freebsd-boot $disk =20 > # partition for the OS > gpart add -a 4k -t freebsd-ufs -l boot$today $disk=20 > # write bootstrap code > gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 $disk >=20 > # format file system > newfs /dev/gpt/boot$today >=20 > # mount file system > mount -o async /dev/gpt/boot$today /mnt >=20 > # install FreeBSD > cd /usr/src > make installworld DESTDIR=3D/mnt > make distribution DESTDIR=3D/mnt > make installkernel DESTDIR=3D/mnt > # Create new =E2=80=9Cclean=E2=80=9D copy of FreeBSD for later use > mkdir -p /mnt/root/FreeBSD > make installworld DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD > make distribution DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD > make installkernel DESTDIR=3D/mnt/root/FreeBSD >=20 > # copy scripts > cp -r ~/scripts /mnt/root >=20 > echo /dev/gpt/boot$today / ufs rw,noatime 0 1 > /mnt/etc/fstab > umount /mnt >=20 >=20 > You might add more customizations, such as dhclient and starting sshd > in /etc/rc.conf of the boot drive. >=20 > Hope this helps=E2=80=A6 >=20 > Daniel >=20 >=20 > > On 18.01.2017 =D0=B3., at 9:45, O. Hartmann wr= ote: > >=20 > > I ran into a very nasty situation where I need to save/restore/reinstal= l a > > in-installworld-crashed recent current. > >=20 > > While the /usr/obj and /usr/src as well as /etc folders are intact > > (residing on a Samsung 850 pro SSD with UFS and journaling), /boot/kern= el > > vanished and most binaries in /bin and /sbin are of Null size. > >=20 > > I treid to rescue the system by intending to use the most recent CURREN= T ISO > > image found on the snapshot server for USB drives, booted this successf= ully > > and then mounted the failes filesystems into the proper place (/usr/obj > > and /usr/src onto USB devices /usr/obj and /usr/src respectively, the r= est > > goes into /mnt). > >=20 > > I tried then to perform a make installworld with DESTDIR=3D/mnt set. Bu= t I > > fail: the minimalistic USB image does not have any CLANG/LLVM stuff > > required for the rescue! > >=20 > > Where the hell did this stuff go? Has it been ripped off due to the 1 GB > > ancient flash size?=20 > >=20 > > Help is needed. I've already posted to CURRENT a message, but I guess I > > always hit the wrong subject line. It seems that the key to my saviour = is > > to have a flash drive with a recent CURRENT containing a cc compiler - > > otherwise /usr/obj is useless. > >=20 > > Kind reards, > >=20 > > Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Daniel, thank you very much for responding! I just looked into "makeing release". I have a lot of NanoBSD images and bu= ild environments for our purpose at work, but I always strip off the compiler, too :-( I was realy badly surprised that on the ISOs the compiler is not present - = for the sake of space? If so, then best practice would be to melt everything do= wn to 1,66 MB size - as an ancient floppy would contain. Or better, Null. Sorry ... It is hard these days to purchase 1GB USB flash drives, most of t= hem do have 2 GB at least. As your own approach indicates, the ISOs are useless in such cases and I consider them as a toying thingi, nothing more. it is probably the best to = have a complete emergency ISO at hand - as your script provides. Again, thanks for the script. I need to adjust the kernel and will create t= hen my own USB drive. Kind regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 09:33:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74525CB5E2B for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA97F1482 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0I9XLQ9074048 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:33:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0I9XKgZ074045; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:33:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:33:20 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" cc: Arthur Chance , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Boot environments and /var - what should be shared/unshared? In-Reply-To: <86h94xcf78.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> Message-ID: References: <86h94xcf78.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:33:46 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:46-0600, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > Arthur Chance writes: > > > I've been using beadm boot environments for a while now, but still > > haven't seen a definitive reference for which parts of /var should be > > shared across boot environments and which should be per environment. Is > > there such a document, or is everybody still busking it? > > > > Some top level directories in /var seem fairly obviously in need of > > sharing, others less so, and /var/db seems to be a horrible mix of stuff > > that could be shared across releases and stuff that might break horribly > > if shared over major revisions. (That's "might" because I have no idea > > if it would in practice.) > > > > I doubt whether any of this would matter (except for space) if one > > simply rolled forward monotonically, but a roll back because of > > problems, or simply switching between development environments, could > > lose necessary updates if the directory hadn't been shared when it > > should have been. > > I suppose I can't give you a "definitive reference," but I selected > things to omit from boot environments based on advice in the book > /FreeBSD Mastery: Advanced ZFS" by Michael W. Lucas and Alan > Jude. Here's what I've got, follow by the reasoning behind it: > > | NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > | workbox/VARIABLE 3.82M 72.5G 144K none > | workbox/VARIABLE/crash 144K 72.5G 144K /var/crash > | workbox/VARIABLE/log 2.86M 497M 1.80M /var/log > | workbox/VARIABLE/mail 340K 72.5G 196K /var/mail > | workbox/VARIABLE/tmp 360K 72.5G 144K /var/tmp > > > 1. /var/crash, /var/tmp: The contents of these directories are supposed > to store non-volatile data, some of which is > relevant to recovery. You don't want it > disappearing after a reboot, or want to have to > find and mount an extra ZFS dataset in order to > access it. > > 2. /var/mail, /var/log: Mail and logs are generated by applications as > well as the base system, and are > time-sensitive. You don't want these skipping > around through time at all, but it's more > egregious if you lose a day's worth of logs for > your web server because something in the base > system got messed up. That's exactly the sort of > thing the BSD filesystem hierarchy was designed > to prevent in the first place. > > > I've also got a couple datasets mounted in /var, but as children of > another tree: > > | workbox/APPS 6.26G 72.5G 5.42G /usr/local > | workbox/APPS/config 7.17M 72.5G 6.22M /usr/local/etc > | workbox/APPS/pkgCache 238M 2.77G 236M /var/cache/pkg > | workbox/APPS/pkgDB 162M 72.5G 81.5M /var/db/pkg If you decide to use base as a set of packages, as proposed for 11.1-RELEASE, I would reconsider having /var/db/pkg and the /usr/local subtree as separate datasets/filesystems. It might be better to treat base and 3rd party packages as a whole, due to /var/db/pkg/local.sqlite recording everything installed in the system. > This way I can roll back package upgrades all at once without touching > anything else on the system. I used to handle packages/ports within boot > environments, but decided to separate them once I realized that doing so > could make them grow pretty large with successive upgrades. Having your > ports/packages tied to boot environments is really only useful when > tracking -CURRENT or performing a major version upgrade, so I see it as > a waste to constantly take up space in preparation for something that > happens once every couple years, for which I'll have ample warning and > preparation. > > Someone else might come along with better ideas, but I suspect a lot of > it depends on taste and personal need. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 12:35:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A984DCB4CD8; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60185197F; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1cTpSN-000Fa9-Ce; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:35:15 +0300 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:35:15 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: Daniel Kalchev , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-ID: <20170118123515.GE58505@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:35:23 -0000 On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:19:15AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > thank you very much for responding! > > I just looked into "makeing release". I have a lot of NanoBSD images and build > environments for our purpose at work, but I always strip off the compiler, > too :-( > > I was realy badly surprised that on the ISOs the compiler is not present - for > the sake of space? If so, then best practice would be to melt everything down > to 1,66 MB size - as an ancient floppy would contain. Or better, Null. > Sorry ... It is hard these days to purchase 1GB USB flash drives, most of them > do have 2 GB at least. ISO images limited by size, for fit to real CD-R blank disks. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 15:13:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896F1CB624C; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o.hartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD571258; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o.hartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de ([87.138.105.249]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mb7lL-1c9K9f0wxP-00KiGT; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:08:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:08:01 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Cc: Daniel Kalchev , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? 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Hartmann wrote: > > > Hello Daniel, > > > > thank you very much for responding! > > > > I just looked into "makeing release". I have a lot of NanoBSD images and > > build environments for our purpose at work, but I always strip off the > > compiler, too :-( > > > > I was realy badly surprised that on the ISOs the compiler is not present - > > for the sake of space? If so, then best practice would be to melt > > everything down to 1,66 MB size - as an ancient floppy would contain. Or > > better, Null. Sorry ... It is hard these days to purchase 1GB USB flash > > drives, most of them do have 2 GB at least. > > ISO images limited by size, for fit to real CD-R blank disks. USB thumbdrives are not limited in that way it rules out for an outdated CD-R. The primary question here is: where is the necessary CLANG compiler on those images? I can't use them as a rescue tool as I could before. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 16:07:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F91CB66E4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACD0F1BD7 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67BB62141 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:27:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4Rr0h2a5To2 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B71B66204E for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:27:09 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484753229; bh=ZBxqJMD59hpVzDK4tTHpH8t/yj8t4f+hhHu4sdkWh6Y=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=nIES8Lg6eK4FGlcODII4TiY0pRCbC9hoGHS79BfB/Q+JSsbO9ZVFZVVQ/2DfEo9W1 gV/Xo2cjesPoZ8FPAj06RbHB2OaMpLmV8fUYlCka8xt4WWFG1JXamjLdbFezODTeCR eqtT/6u9oRuUC2kU1eXcjXfplXwiU1dno9mnTtBD/4Iuw9kXOzCAUrssrMu4KoA4U8 8H5jml36eKStSfbo57mF2ulPBNiFXPaR64c9EI1LwmIad0MY5W9W96aFqcuB7kcyyR rsRqXjsitIAtJrTSgSB2iNYUAfL/ewLMteON+FfkLQMIem6sgBvAox0FTNK/lMQM+/ 2xmXoxaw/L2Vw== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:27:09 -0500 Message-ID: <2a7da910fc6258fefb87c4b8361b07bc.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:27:09 -0500 Subject: FreeBSD-11 - EZJail - Sharing binary packages across jails From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:07:14 -0000 I am attempting to discover if it is possible to add a binary package to the base system and have that shared by all of the jails hosted thereon. However, I can find no clear discussion of this either in the man pages or on the EZJail project site. Nor is there much discussion in the FreeBSD Handbook or elsewhere respecting this particular subject. I have empirically determined that simply installing a package on the host does not expose it to the jails. However, it seems to me that this must somehow be possible. Is there a reference which discusses this in some detail or has anyone here a short précis they can share on how this is done? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 17:01:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0007CB6787 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B5B1CC8 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 0E802CB8CA0; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:01:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <28071.128.135.52.6.1484758877.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <2a7da910fc6258fefb87c4b8361b07bc.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <2a7da910fc6258fefb87c4b8361b07bc.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:01:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11 - EZJail - Sharing binary packages across jails From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:01:25 -0000 On Wed, January 18, 2017 9:27 am, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am attempting to discover if it is possible to add a binary package > to the base system and have that shared by all of the jails hosted > thereon. This would grossly depend on how you create jails. If you do it "by the book", namely, if the base system in nullfs read-only mounted in jails, then you will have no handle on that via pkg, as all places pkg in all jails use are imminently rw, that is outside of read-only mounted base. The only logical way out is to "fiddle with the base", by adding your custom binaries/libraries/... to base, these, however, will be outside of where pkg can manage stuff. I'm sure, someone will advise to not mix anything into base system (which is my feeling too). My experience, though, is restricted to 10.3 and lover, and to jails built "by the book". > However, I can find no clear discussion of this either in > the man pages or on the EZJail project site. Nor is there much > discussion in the FreeBSD Handbook or elsewhere respecting this > particular subject. > > I have empirically determined that simply installing a package on the > host does not expose it to the jails. However, it seems to me that > this must somehow be possible. No, ideally it should not be. If you build jails "by the book" they have their own base system (read-only inside jails), and their own read-write portion individual for each jail. And that is done on purpose. "No one in jail should be exercising rights and freedoms of free ones" ;-) Valeri > > Is there a reference which discusses this in some detail or has anyone > here a short précis they can share on how this is done? > > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 17:17:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A5ACB6C6A for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.dweimer.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 069F016E1 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0IGtWO3075452 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:55:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 10:55:32 -0600 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Tuning Route Cache Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3-beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:17:50 -0000 I have been searching, but so far unsuccessfully found any hints. I have a situation that occurred with a FreeBSD server that is running 11.0 that is in a DMZ with its default router directing traffic to other routers in the same subnet. we had one of those routers get swapped out last night. however the FreeBSD server still had the old router in its cache, and couldn't communicate with the remote sites. Example FreeBSD servers IP: 192.168.1.10 default gateway 192.168.1.1 route to 10.10.10.1/24 via 192.168.1.2 route to 10.10.20.1/24 via 192.168.1.3 the route to 10.10.20.1/24 was change to go through 192.168.1.4 around 10 pm last night as of 9am this morning the freebsd server still had cached route entries pointing the 10.10.20.1/24 devices through 192.168.1.3 instead of retrying the default route to receive the updated path. I need to find a way to shorten this cache, I understand why its there to prevent repeated lookups, this doesn't happen all the time but I am thinking if I could change this cache length to a couple of hours this would have saved me a lot of trouble. As the routes would have cleared out over night and when users got back on the network in the morning everything would have been working. Of course it would have also helped had the admin working with the provider informed me they were making a change, but somehow I don't think FreeBSD can solve that one for me. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 19:37:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3893BCB6E61; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B6B41A52; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de ([78.52.71.34]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M39zL-1cjP463K6R-00sui8; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:37:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:37:26 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" To: Matthias Apitz Cc: Slawa Olhovchenkov , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions , "O. Hartmann" , Daniel Kalchev Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? 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As I initially stated, that is EXACTLY what I was inclined to do except the= fact that I had already an intact /usr/obj and usr/src with a complete compiled system. I booted from mem stick and I was lost due to no cc! Even for "make installworld" it seems I have to rely on the compiler. And t= he images (ISO, memstick et cetera) provided these days do not contain any clang. So, I tried /usr/src/release ... for the first time. The image does also no= t contain the necessary tools for a full "make installworld installkernel" - not to speak= of "compiling" world. I dodn't work (at least for me).=20 I try to figure out how to avoid this crazy and useless shrinking of the IS= O images - somehow when building NanoBSD, there are knobs with which we can prevent th= e build and/or installation of subsets like compiler, toolchain et cetera. The way such th= ing is provided via src.conf and make.conf is fine and sophisticated. But "RELEASE= " seems to handle things different, and the standard is useless for a rescue mission. So far. It might be that I have overlooked something ... Regards, oh --=20 O. Hartmann Ich widerspreche der Nutzung oder =C3=9Cbermittlung meiner Daten f=C3=BCr Werbezwecke oder f=C3=BCr die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung (=C2=A7 28 Abs.= 4 BDSG). --Sig_/ZD/NMegrg9aZZLiL7RLdYPV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iLUEARMKAB0WIQQZVZMzAtwC2T/86TrS528fyFhYlAUCWH/D9gAKCRDS528fyFhY lPS5AgCDarnV2KaijxQtA1exsIafTmlKmiaan5Itcyr3CVm97TihY6PxZmmt4La8 eBuxnqK5XJvumZ/Mz19Vo7cRxTAFAf4uyqrNBzpFt9IZMTkxemO1afQ6gEXOc4eJ U/sebBiTyu2nAPHczL3k2m9lURQj9Qde2Qs+WUKNkQZdMrBDI3c3 =tpSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ZD/NMegrg9aZZLiL7RLdYPV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 21:48:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FED5CB6B96; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C64DC1B18; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.106.187] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTy5E-0004ex-Fr; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:47:56 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v0ILlujr001983 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:47:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v0ILlu33001982; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:47:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:47:56 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-ID: <20170118214756.GA1938@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions References: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118123515.GE58505@zxy.spb.ru> <20170118160801.229b4134@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118153832.GA6905@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170118203726.7dea0515@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20170118203726.7dea0515@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.106.187 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:48:00 -0000 (I adjuested To/cc) El día Wednesday, January 18, 2017 a las 08:37:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann escribió: > Wow! > > As I initially stated, that is EXACTLY what I was inclined to do except the fact that I > had already an intact /usr/obj and usr/src with a complete compiled system. > > I booted from mem stick and I was lost due to no cc! > > Even for "make installworld" it seems I have to rely on the compiler. And the images > (ISO, memstick et cetera) provided these days do not contain any clang. > > So, I tried /usr/src/release ... for the first time. The image does also not contain the > necessary tools for a full "make installworld installkernel" - not to speak of > "compiling" world. I dodn't work (at least for me). What gives: # rm -r /usr/obj # cd /usr/src # make buildworld # make buildkernel matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wo ist der antiimperialistische Schutzwall, wenn man ihn braucht? US-Panzertransport durch ex-DDR" "Where is the anti-imperialistic wall, if it's needed? Transport of US-tanks through the ex-GDR" https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/45282-us-panzertransporte-durch-ex-ddr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 18 22:31:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7661ECB6A16 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 641D916AD for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:31:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170117032253.13a3587f@riseup.net> <20170118051205.f9fd373e.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:31:36 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170118051205.f9fd373e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:31:44 -0000 On 01/17/17 20:12, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:03:26 -0800, David Christensen wrote: >> Where can I find information for setting up a GPG agent for XFCE on >> FreeBSD 11.0? > Probably you'll find that in the Xfce documentation (which > might be primarily targeted at Linux, but you can "translate" > the stuff anyway). STFW yielded the answer: http://dst.lbl.gov/ksblog/2011/05/xfce-without-gpg-agent/ Running Application Menu -> Settings -> Settings Editor: Click New button: Property /startup/ssh-agent/enabled Type: Boolean Value: TRUE Save Click New button: Property: /startup/ssh-agent/type Type: String Value: ssh-agent Save I also fixed another warning: xauth: file /home/dpchrist/.serverauth.1036 does not exist /usr/local/bin/startx calls xauth on line 182-184, and xauth issues the warning: 182 xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF 183 add :$dummy . $mcookie 184 EOF STFW yielded a suggestion: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/xauth-file-home-semoi-serverauth-2263-does-not-exist-4175446072/ Hacking startx: toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx 182c182 < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF --- > touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF Now I'm trying to get Panel -> Action Buttons -> Lock Screen working. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 00:16:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2419BCB61D9 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 957FA1FC9 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:16:56 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 418A63CC3F; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:15:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0J0FksA002194; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:15:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:15:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: Matthias Apitz , Daniel Kalchev , freebsd-current , freebsd-questions , Slawa Olhovchenkov Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-Id: <20170119011546.9c43b065.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170118203726.7dea0515@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> References: <20170118084502.617bfc94@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118123515.GE58505@zxy.spb.ru> <20170118160801.229b4134@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118153832.GA6905@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170118203726.7dea0515@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 4288A69DC72 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:55:33 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:16:00 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:37:26 +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:38:32 +0100 > Matthias Apitz schrieb: >=20 > > Why you do not just boot from USB some mem stick image, mount some disk > > space to /mnt, svn checkout CURRENT to /mnt and build a booteable system > > (world and kernel) and install to DESTDIR=3D/mnt ? > >=20 > > I do not understand all this hassle? > >=20 > > matthias > >=20 >=20 > Wow! >=20 > As I initially stated, that is EXACTLY what I was inclined to do except > the fact that I > had already an intact /usr/obj and usr/src with a complete compiled syste= m. >=20 > I booted from mem stick and I was lost due to no cc! That is the core problem here: cc is not contained in the USB (memstick) image. It _might_ be contained on the live system media, but I'm not sure about this... > Even for "make installworld" it seems I have to rely on the compiler. > And the images > (ISO, memstick et cetera) provided these days do not contain any clang. Then there would be at least the following option: >From the installation media, you can manually extract the distribution files for the base system and use their content to overwrite your non-functional (zero size) files on disk. The task here is to perform archive extraction, and the extractor should be there (simply because the installer uses it as well). With those tools established, you can recompile your system, or "make installworld" from the already populated /usr/obj subtree. Of course, you need to pay attention to have the _correct_ version. > I try to figure out how to avoid this crazy and useless shrinking > of the ISO images - > somehow when building NanoBSD, there are knobs with which we can > prevent the build and/or > installation of subsets like compiler, toolchain et cetera. The way > such thing is > provided via src.conf and make.conf is fine and sophisticated. But > "RELEASE" seems to > handle things different, and the standard is useless for a rescue > mission. So having a more or less complete (!) live system image (for CD or DVD, depending on result size) would probably be a good idea and a versatile tool in case of emergencies. The size limitations, in my opinion, are okay for CD media (650 MB) and DVD media (4,7 GB), but for USB media, I don't see a significant problem making the image 4 or even 8 GB in size. It's actually quite complicated to buy smaller USB sticks or SD cards (sizes < 4 GB) for the few devices they are still required... FreeBSD has always been a "self-contained" system that could "reproduce itself", given that all the sources and the compilation tools were included with the OS. This should be an important goal to achieve with a USB-based _live_ system, and even if you run it from slow USB (instead of fast HDD or SSD), there are still situations where those systems can prevent you from a complete system re-installation. Additionally, USB provides permanent storage (which CDs and DVDs obviously do not). Of course you can more or less manually create such a live media and prepare an image for it, but it would be really nice if such an image would be provided for download. I imagine the initial tasks to be mostly a buildworld/installword into a custom root directory and then creating an image from it, prepending it with the typical boot loader so it becomes a "disk image" (USB image, of course). > Ich widerspreche der Nutzung oder =DCbermittlung meiner Daten f=FCr > Werbezwecke oder f=FCr die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung (=A7 28 Abs. 4 B= DSG). "Das interessiert uns nicht!" - gez. die Werbewirtschaft. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 04:03:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19774CB7A33; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x244.google.com (mail-pg0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E096B1897; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x244.google.com with SMTP id 194so3015828pgd.0; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:03:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3/jLDDPlslHTyrHIYgKybRco4rNt5U2mAfEr5m84k2M=; b=HoGiHq4GTcGWUW4QM9HyOasJX9OK2G5KwPUd07/WUGPmvR9F/L3oy/NocgOlRhaoz3 9C6AZEDO4OhWMpu53hNgJSlw0cME6n4X3felmToPeoxA0gbaiPjF7HBMKH0evPjuCu4U b7lUuaC+bIk8Z8mw0XiQCJko9/0nMAMTCyBypiC604C5SB8zjCI9NGCtgjOHzmXnur6a jHtj/xdcvuKmN4oE9PSqKIgfqMnnEzA1VDd/qpK5Xe4MfmbE+UjdwHdZQeEN7Q1ZCeIq Cv3COKVm2uFjMNBNFoyfKvN+VoEfpVwFr5k3xFj4aGJGJkk2NCw0/qCveVdWU9+EKlpy vlfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3/jLDDPlslHTyrHIYgKybRco4rNt5U2mAfEr5m84k2M=; b=hj7mBZJXcZH2YfiMH053F5MzavyHsgmSiPi1Z7Ef9p4PHhJSWLqtxIW+TZrzAQQ1gH qe4ZLc2gQJevCTtL9jIsrjibwI8vkvdjroYxrXYt35Yak46qzJPNhJY7m8AmvMXKqwl+ Gd1MKltld/0QYqTE3wclmCMI51SY/E3sJpcXoL1MjgPWOJ5faZOLpSrJTd/SLoMgCa6Y 2D2+RW2ushpDWEYKaQ4dOw35obgqb7CgP9e3L59COfnJWtbv4MXXl1pwg3Ss05hrDZdN HQq1bxVhx16UpcHT72LYCnEn+IQPgqHjRxJXljK+dkGkmHMJIdjmrnZE0vmVEH9mGNvJ RgCg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKmrSuQRYNEvd5zGV4k7sAUSpJP4qBOth6LDTk2yd4MFCCVrVMpqbjjF30Re1xctQ== X-Received: by 10.99.19.65 with SMTP id 1mr7876029pgt.153.1484798615367; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([120.29.76.161]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f3sm4138482pfd.10.2017.01.18.20.03.34 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:03:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <58803AA1.4070603@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:03:45 +0800 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" CC: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" Subject: handbook chapter 14. Jails is out of date Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:03:36 -0000 Was reading the handbook chapter 14 about jails. Found it very strange that it's based on the legacy rc.conf method. When you start a jail using that method a warning message is given saying the statements are being converted to jail.conf statements and that the user should migrate their jail definitions to the jail.conf format. I believe this happened with RELEASE 10.0. Here RELEASE 11.0 is out and all releases older than 10.3 are at "end of life" and still the handbook has not been updated to document the current jail.conf method. The rc.conf method is depreciated and may soon be up for removal from the base system. Enough time has elapsed already for user conversions that the rc.conf method documented in the handbook can be removed and replaced with jail.conf documentation without concern for backwards capability. Omitted from the jail chapter is information about how to drive public traffic to the desired target jail. The section on ezjail is inappropriate in the handbook. It's not proper to give a port utility such lengthly coverage. All that information should be covered in the ezjail man page manual or it's website. The ezjail section should be removed from the handbook. Listing ezjail as a utility for jail administration is ok only if the other jail utilities are also included in the listing. Can not be showing such personal bias in the public manual. I hope someone will work on this to make it happen. Ya I know, patches are welcome. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 05:15:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2209CB5C07 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4F3D11CF for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0J5FPHn089962 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0J5FPqt089959; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Sergei Akhmatdinov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block wrote: >> I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I have >> not investigated that. > > Only half obsolete. Loading "freetype" is no longer needed, but most font > packages do not properly copy into Xorg's default font-paths, so you still need > to point to them. That, or manually copy the files over, which is what I do. I > find that a bit less fussy than adding a .conf and having to add a > font-path every time I install a new font from ports. > >>>> Do you have both hald and dbus running? >> >> Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require >> hal, don't know. > > I have XFCE set up on my FBSD desktop, couldn't get it to show up > restart-shutdown-etc without HAL running. I've been using xfce without hal ever since submitting the patches to change the ports to not need it. :) But I build everything from ports, and that packages might require hal. > Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a `shutdown > (-r|-p) now` wrapper. I just add those entries to the polkit file and it works. If there is something else that needs to be done, I did it a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure I have set up machines from scratch with the same configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 07:59:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69870CB78B1; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 309EA1646; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from [80.67.16.131] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cU7LM-0007IH-EU; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:41:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:41:12 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: Warren Block Cc: Sergei Akhmatdinov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> Message-ID: <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:59:12 -0000 At 2017-01-19 06:15, Warren Block was heard to say: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) >> Warren Block wrote: >>> I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I >>> have >>> not investigated that. >> >> Only half obsolete. Loading "freetype" is no longer needed, but most >> font >> packages do not properly copy into Xorg's default font-paths, so you >> still need >> to point to them. That, or manually copy the files over, which is what >> I do. I >> find that a bit less fussy than adding a .conf and having to add a >> font-path every time I install a new font from ports. >> >>>>> Do you have both hald and dbus running? >>> >>> Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require >>> hal, don't know. >> >> I have XFCE set up on my FBSD desktop, couldn't get it to show up >> restart-shutdown-etc without HAL running. > > I've been using xfce without hal ever since submitting the patches to > change the ports to not need it. :) > > But I build everything from ports, and that packages might require hal. > >> Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a >> `shutdown >> (-r|-p) now` wrapper. > > I just add those entries to the polkit file and it works. If there is > something else that needs to be done, I did it a long time ago, but > I'm pretty sure I have set up machines from scratch with the same > configuration. > _______________________________________________ I just reinstalled a laptop with 11-RELEASE and ran into the very same problem that you seem to *not* have. I have enabled just about everything (polkitd|hald|dbus|whatnot) in rc.conf, I've granted my user account the rights to do everything in the polkit config file, and still cannot shut down or restart the box using XFCE's logout dialog. sudo /sbin/poweroff runs flawlessly though, so it is not really an issue. It is just a wart on an otherwise smooth setup. I have not tried to build XFCE from the ports tree though. Will try as soon as I get round to it. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 08:37:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636ACCB4CDD for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpd.telissant.net (smtpd.telissant.net [104.225.1.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6071AE4 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from cortina.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBE6112984 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:23:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpd.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by cortina.3dresearch.com (cortina.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a3Oe9YxH5Wcn for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (unknown [100.6.188.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elettra) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B17E7112982 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elettra.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CA55850883 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:22:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:22:31 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Is Mk/bsd.port.mk broken? Message-Id: <20170119032231.a8c1b6bfd984308b2f231c5a@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:31 -0000 Hello List, I had to run fsck(8) after the machine (FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE #0 r310026) was accidentally unplugged and now I get this error: # make search name=portupgrade "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 112: warning: "make -V _JAVA_VERSION_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 117: warning: "make -V _JAVA_VENDOR_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 122: warning: "make -V _JAVA_OS_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 127: warning: "make -V _JAVA_PORTS_INSTALLED USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" returned non-zero status This is Revision 431796 of bsd.port.mk. Am I missing something or is bsd.port.mk broken? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 08:37:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C81CB4D5B for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpd.telissant.net (smtpd.telissant.net [104.225.1.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E0B11BB4 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from cortina.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0027112986 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:37:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpd.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by cortina.3dresearch.com (cortina.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXgh8Dhczv2Y for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (unknown [100.6.188.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elettra) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30C56112985 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elettra.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73FE8508DE for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:37:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:36:44 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is Mk/bsd.port.mk broken? Message-Id: <20170119033644.2c158282bdcb57d7b6771cf0@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20170119032231.a8c1b6bfd984308b2f231c5a@3dresearch.com> References: <20170119032231.a8c1b6bfd984308b2f231c5a@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:37:55 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:22:31 -0500 Janos Dohanics wrote: > Hello List, > > I had to run fsck(8) after the machine (FreeBSD 9.3-STABLE #0 r310026) > was accidentally unplugged and now I get this error: > > # make search name=portupgrade > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: Unknown directive > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 112: warning: "make -V > _JAVA_VERSION_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" > returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: > Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 117: warning: "make -V > _JAVA_VENDOR_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" > returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: > Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 122: warning: "make -V > _JAVA_OS_LIST_REGEXP USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" > returned non-zero status "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1043: > Unknown directive make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk", line 127: warning: "make -V > _JAVA_PORTS_INSTALLED USE_JAVA=1 -f /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" > returned non-zero status > > This is Revision 431796 of bsd.port.mk. > > Am I missing something or is bsd.port.mk broken? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 14:13:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FBCCB7584 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A4881650 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9719A621EE for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:13:53 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PS0LYURP51Dm for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A75D5621B6 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:13:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484835230; bh=gHCJbsGKgieK7mIVn/N13FqZN60qrXhXxGUDZBq1ONY=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=q3JEc6sjvwOOMFviKuf9l5OjI7y5vjO0++P3U8vLn7L89JDKkIhSIR88vYjtu6tz3 uiBOfTSjGZqqwk/QPW6aiVvwupOnCoLzlQwnlcJ6w6VSMl0/LGHyMqTYa9/F3exVYt xviORhn1koR4UPkzzLJ07JAVg496zUYg3yts8oFUQ+AX+6+Tiex5nsqLn/i4DMlkOd Pu3u5nOiaXiIeNutlca4RfX1QSN9EssvRDNuj8TX6+gvA7ADKqrUxavyW6COurqFec 6wV7hQApkf0AjAHfr3aaAK+PnhvJ9NJDFjpJjsOEWoMOuFcv76MQt6ByEpIXw9iy24 LDK2hiIr2hL7g== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:13:50 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:13:50 -0500 Subject: Clerical help wanted From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:13:56 -0000 How many of us work with data entry operators that you suspect would just enter this company's registered name into your database systems? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10542519 -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 14:22:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30585CB7B23 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB0F71CDE for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28FAA2A15 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/28FAA2A15; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Clerical help wanted To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2ihls199RO2mpgLX9IawSPxPHprTMAHjc" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2ihls199RO2mpgLX9IawSPxPHprTMAHjc Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="C0M21Cr49FHIWpLqtM2dl3GK2nm8grPO0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clerical help wanted References: In-Reply-To: --C0M21Cr49FHIWpLqtM2dl3GK2nm8grPO0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/01/2017 14:13, James B. Byrne wrote: > How many of us work with data entry operators that you suspect would > just enter this company's registered name into your database systems? >=20 > https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10542519 Except that company name is missing a strategically placed quote mark, so it wouldn't actually work... Also: evolution in action. Anyone vulnerable to SQL injection in this day and age *needs* an unpleasant lesson. Cheers, Matthew --C0M21Cr49FHIWpLqtM2dl3GK2nm8grPO0-- --2ihls199RO2mpgLX9IawSPxPHprTMAHjc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYgMukXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATsEMQAIAjVZrtxBY1pf73yvJjlp7G x4k1p6hI2KUD9iEpMnBpYryj/ih0otzYL5Dwz5WsSI9BsEmzBqPdTUIeVQIAl6fz TEr3HGkKVt2R6mtxaV+MNMUCV9dAkZUhGjXei5yNtjfMaerhmVQMSgHyO3TdlzkI s9ObtA+7YfotcL0Jmf0AduKVL9iC16RpXEY6JO9TYOXVFPFnje419/koakNEtr39 jgIXVGN/qYUMMazOxbMwiaE/VvwhOk1y2t7z4EyVoFOoxAWH/dTKsFahXnTlEVyM swKGW5EwHD+eDuQ1n9kyQbDdEJkgcL3kr82dkuZytc8vGgvSb1MeLJmXzPzdEYCG 560Sjy2X/rpdd7/PuVW7g7teWLQnT7l0TbghLq008Fni32vm0rIx11cwcXMxWM1Q vL4RPc+8xpEPf6s/0sVhoq4vnI7+/C4EVUv9roLLn2uBFngh5AdGg89+T0HZfzUt UR7iF53AHeJNPrzyXM5GYYUobAHttGQ5TqepY0tag0cevzxlfVCxcDhyt3d7VIPJ uiP6I7oD1HE4xk+F9NbO2hBwwK2VEgT8bA2PY1U86SfTao2GdI5afJTAX3Sb5ZaC 4YUfikxDSTRu8G2eOxclf6bvVtv2iKGvZ/3AlWzLyBTe4ksviZIiFNe18QM7l04w AFQAXV0PEhD72dL7zTiR =3QXW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2ihls199RO2mpgLX9IawSPxPHprTMAHjc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 14:53:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E75CCB85AE; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4F215F9; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0JEr4cJ003748 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:53:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0JEr44P003745; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:53:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:53:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Markus Hoenicka cc: Sergei Akhmatdinov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:53:05 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:53:12 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > At 2017-01-19 06:15, Warren Block was heard to say: >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: >> >>> Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a `shutdown >>> (-r|-p) now` wrapper. >> >> I just add those entries to the polkit file and it works. If there is >> something else that needs to be done, I did it a long time ago, but >> I'm pretty sure I have set up machines from scratch with the same >> configuration. >> _______________________________________________ > > I just reinstalled a laptop with 11-RELEASE and ran into the very same > problem that you seem to *not* have. I have enabled just about everything > (polkitd|hald|dbus|whatnot) in rc.conf, I've granted my user account the > rights to do everything in the polkit config file, and still cannot shut down > or restart the box using XFCE's logout dialog. sudo /sbin/poweroff runs > flawlessly though, so it is not really an issue. It is just a wart on an > otherwise smooth setup. I have not tried to build XFCE from the ports tree > though. Will try as soon as I get round to it. That's an interesting idea. Maybe the hal requirement when using packages interferes with the shutdown. It would be nice to solve this, then we can add it to the pkg-message. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 15:23:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800A3CB8CB7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9DA61DC7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:24:45 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A65FD3CC42; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0JFMu2u002310; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clerical help wanted Message-Id: <20170119162256.d0a1e608.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 2A8CA68E718 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2846 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:23:08 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:22:21 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 19/01/2017 14:13, James B. Byrne wrote: > > How many of us work with data entry operators that you suspect would > > just enter this company's registered name into your database systems? > > > > https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10542519 > > Except that company name is missing a strategically placed quote mark, > so it wouldn't actually work... > > Also: evolution in action. Anyone vulnerable to SQL injection in this > day and age *needs* an unpleasant lesson. Yay, it's Bobby Tables! https://xkcd.com/327/ For everyday practical use: http://hackaday.com/2014/04/04/sql-injection-fools-speed-traps-and-clears-your-record/ ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 16:22:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2E3CB8CED for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F247F11DB for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C155D621EF for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:43:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uVbQRRUGWrKF for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E46036135D for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:43:53 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1484840633; bh=UfCp+CPDuD3pYyc3B6ClHeU6VzEJAy7tjR1Tfq/8I1w=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=kx7rg6JvyEkDPKWhQle3YbYYmiSejmU4jIUMvP4vo/GubGhBBfA5TuDPd4k1FF1k1 /4dJDEaK1fC3P0rIqSDYC6k2yy6hEYTe//1F1gPw+gXEIf/gXRU38f5W2pmFY/SlT4 sn5qEG2gq+N9WQD9OrVmKSQgtUA+CaELc8Zbth5jeG/7/7Wx400vmjBl64hAcb0JWo 6j+AafshVrWrNlsbPqIQw+pRI5vhwmAGZz0dLPqVx98Y6aEu7taDPfiKx4qs1vQ7TD SvP1G3MSeU9FtALKZ+t0nu4wjgdv57/iw04MuNAVgEqUzUfUYAgaydl2ZwfQuddWsl lYz/CamfUFVnQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:43:53 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:43:53 -0500 Subject: PF firewall on BHyve host - impact on guests From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:14 -0000 We are running a BHyve host with multiple guests. My question is do PF settings on the host impact network traffic sent to/from the guests? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 16:36:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E13CB8104 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yudi.tux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E82B1B3E for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yudi.tux@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id v96so41769855ioi.0 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:36:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=akFDraRP9VcwpqBmPquZx4VHAdQJMVquX9B03IfO+k0=; b=a/3DBWLBgQ472XC9fR27lpeDKhgGyA+8kPc9LERe3/kuN2Ob3mdJjgmgoNFeSdVHOQ AxnShnFNjMssw9Kf9Jm64hL7qzKIqNgrXF+H03Pvf/vfjriM5MR/LLxl5bMaZ8qaFc/n RpjdbJdMNOMGkVSqpgqJ22iolszO+/qKYxZGkk/pIntqGF51hpOhuMy9KL3wp+WkypMs jEgEe5GGIaH90acmPTukp2Y5yPRB7MaLamf3GWqDOn3YLFnZL1vqxpL0T9adiZ8bkq85 cDoqldLhcvehBeYBl8P1mJuruBr8+N0/TAQYz49O2CSbYY2mCNlIn1I+qYwHci93HsBq 4Vpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=akFDraRP9VcwpqBmPquZx4VHAdQJMVquX9B03IfO+k0=; b=HMsltQrmZ9f4pXxFzBHUY+zRkoVzYA93tx80T/h7bjtIcbuOiC/plPuxqCzg4dXAR2 YBbh1s5zMochAKwzrakJ/V3Y4tINUIBuVbZY9XHEY8L1NHepjKbKRbpEmgy2PdoEGAkK PI2LFLpZjE4SIDJA2kHJi93hP/8a88N4rKsNNMnedEbg5WwTVcrYQujQrn6IcFb9xFo1 GI3Oc0Y0GLgQ9JmJv59fF+H88dfqZFkuKAd9oGPZsVyHXt6TsMqh2cED6gdbL/zj7au0 TvEmHffL+enkaxjy4LUy7aP2/OkcgrgTY0L5BzpFtj3Oga7WSwcp5VcXtplsP+8PA54A 2/mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIusBxQA/q9GY3VcJM+dlhoTS02KoWqZ+kFgJku9FxEEoMmEJ3CdD0G0GWi3e9/pHQZrf4FSJldX4CCww== X-Received: by 10.107.173.95 with SMTP id w92mr10607880ioe.136.1484843764477; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:36:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.133.210 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 08:36:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170118065516.GA41788@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20170118065516.GA41788@slackbox.erewhon.home> From: Yudi V Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:36:04 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: issues upgrading from 10.1-RELEASE to 11-RELEASE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:36:05 -0000 Thanks guys the issue is I missed the below section as I followed the release notes instructions. 23.2.3.2. Upgrading Packages After a Major Version Upgrade ran pkg-static install -f pkg # pkg-static upgrade -f fixed all the issues. Problem was to do with different ABIs. -- Kind regards, Yudi From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 16:41:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF2DCB8389 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63EF21E3F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2598C20668 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:41:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=t9Z04PHqhmW4O6R mVERJndW3ows=; b=n/4mDQ53GtzRcOL1naUKhlmYdfsnGdwZP6snXAHsXNMM4MU QMndFl73RqC1d6bKyevTtUoML0upeSftDzJpidW1tdGZXM3TDWQ1Zc/4UHsA8v3w j2k2HJD3Ucg3grb1o1nUT1sXIdAXR19Q2p88gZF8vKt/AuEeAOrvY1aSQt0k= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=t9Z04PHqhmW4O6RmVERJndW3ows=; b=TQR4o4pOAS27ybj+PoHS E+bqZd/Ga6zefwD7QrMQ1oeZm18U6Mwe7qdt/pKrCb2dcAUA/11U7oXNScZae6ua 8n3t4mLCDc3fCJ6J1K6f+y5l1XB/5eohqkBhO7TxNMdKXmf74Z5ZIO4x1JswP/I9 /EMi+DBK9um4SS5A7+Tva6g= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: OSVp9ZuLD3Z4ANwz+mE1kvNf0iLqLgcvYVOjKqmc1FJ3 1484844077 Received: from pumpkin.growveg.org (pumpkin.growveg.org [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BC3017E808 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:41:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: PF firewall on BHyve host - impact on guests To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: tech-lists Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:40:41 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:41:19 -0000 On 19/01/2017 15:43, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > We are running a BHyve host with multiple guests. My question is do > PF settings on the host impact network traffic sent to/from the > guests? In my experience, yes. I run a freebsd bhyve host with 9 guests, mixture of freebsd and ubuntu. Each of the guests has a functioning firewall and they are not all set up the same. This is the most straightforward setup for me as I can tailor each guest its required firewall functionality independently. -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 17:42:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47716CB5C61 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 354991EDE for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:42:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <7abf2904-dd77-3181-9878-05b9196a9082@holgerdanske.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:42:29 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:42:36 -0000 On 01/19/17 06:53, Warren Block wrote: > It would be nice to solve this, then we can add it to the pkg-message. It would be nice to solve this so that X and Xfce worked better OOTB. At least one poster warned against mixing packages and ports. I've done all my work using packages alone. At this point, my recipe for building a FreeBSD/ X/ Xfce workstation includes: 1. Erase system drive. 2. Install FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img (finding the correct choices for my hardware and LAN took a few tries). 3. Update FreeBSD. toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-update fetch toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-update install 4. Install X.org: toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xorg 5. Based upon xorg package notes, create /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf: toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf # Recommended by xorg package: Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "freetype" EndSection 6. Per handbook section 5.4.3, edit /boot/loader.conf: toor@freebsd:/root # diff /boot/loader.conf-20170114-1232 /boot/loader.conf 13a14 > kern.vty=vt 7. Install Xfce: toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce (Based upon xfce package notes, the file I previously created for polkit based upon package installation notes was for Suspend, not for Shut Down and Restart. Forget it -- Shut Down and Restart can work without it.) 8. Per handbook section 5.7.3, create ~/.xinitrc so that 'startx' starts Xfce: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ cat .xinitrc exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch 9. Create D-Bus machine identifier: toor@freebsd:/root # dbus-uuidgen --ensure=/etc/machine-id 10. Enable Xfce Shut Down and Restart by starting dbus and hald at system boot: toor@freebsd:/root # diff /etc/rc.conf-20170114-1648 /etc/rc.conf 12a13,14 > dbus_enable="YES" > hald_enable="YES" 11. Edit startx to silence xauth warning about missing serverauth: toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx 182c182 < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF --- > touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF 12. Add Xfce settings to silence xfce4-session warnings "No GPG agent found" and "SSH authentication agent is already running": Application Menu -> Settings -> Settings Editor: Click New button: Property /startup/ssh-agent/enabled Type: Boolean Value: TRUE Click Save button Click New button: Property: /startup/ssh-agent/type Type: String Value: ssh-agent Click Save button 13. Install xscreensaver to enable Panel -> Action Buttons -> Lock Screen and Application Menu -> Settings -> Screensaver. It would be good if somebody verified this recipe. It would be good if 'pkg install xorg' included steps 4-6. It would be good if 'pkg install xfce' included steps 7-13. I have also installed the following packages, and they seem to work OOTB: cvs tree vim-lite firefox vlc I have also updated the locate and makewhatis databases: toor@freebsd:/root # /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate toor@freebsd:/root # makewhatis David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 17:52:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BDCB7203 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 214DB172F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:52:21 -0800 From: David Christensen Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> Message-ID: <8b87a87c-053d-860f-c8c8-88e22975149d@holgerdanske.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:52:21 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:52:25 -0000 freebsd-questions: Clarification -- I've added the command for step #13: David At this point, my recipe for building a FreeBSD/ X/ Xfce workstation includes: 1. Erase system drive. 2. Install FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img (finding the correct choices for my hardware and LAN took a few tries). 3. Update FreeBSD. toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-update fetch toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-update install 4. Install X.org: toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xorg 5. Based upon xorg package notes, create /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf: toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf # Recommended by xorg package: Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "freetype" EndSection 6. Per handbook section 5.4.3, edit /boot/loader.conf: toor@freebsd:/root # diff /boot/loader.conf-20170114-1232 /boot/loader.conf 13a14 > kern.vty=vt 7. Install Xfce: toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce (Based upon xfce package notes, the file I previously created for polkit based upon package installation notes was for Suspend, not for Shut Down and Restart. Forget it -- Shut Down and Restart can work without it.) 8. Per handbook section 5.7.3, create ~/.xinitrc so that 'startx' starts Xfce: dpchrist@freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist $ cat .xinitrc exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch 9. Create D-Bus machine identifier: toor@freebsd:/root # dbus-uuidgen --ensure=/etc/machine-id 10. Enable Xfce Shut Down and Restart by starting dbus and hald at system boot: toor@freebsd:/root # diff /etc/rc.conf-20170114-1648 /etc/rc.conf 12a13,14 > dbus_enable="YES" > hald_enable="YES" 11. Edit startx to silence xauth warning about missing serverauth: toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx 182c182 < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF --- > touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF 12. Add Xfce settings to silence xfce4-session warnings "No GPG agent found" and "SSH authentication agent is already running": Application Menu -> Settings -> Settings Editor: Click New button: Property /startup/ssh-agent/enabled Type: Boolean Value: TRUE Click Save button Click New button: Property: /startup/ssh-agent/type Type: String Value: ssh-agent Click Save button 13. Install xscreensaver to enable Panel -> Action Buttons -> Lock Screen and Application Menu -> Settings -> Screensaver. toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xscreesaver From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 17:53:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F2CB72C5 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226C018CE for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0JHr8ec013962 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:53:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0JHr8qn013959; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:53:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:53:08 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <7abf2904-dd77-3181-9878-05b9196a9082@holgerdanske.com> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <7abf2904-dd77-3181-9878-05b9196a9082@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:53:08 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:53:10 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: > 1. Erase system drive. Not necessary, but does no harm. > 5. Based upon xorg package notes, create > /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf: > > toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf > # Recommended by xorg package: > Section "Files" > FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "freetype" > EndSection This probably needs updates, but also probably does no harm. > 6. Per handbook section 5.4.3, edit /boot/loader.conf: > > toor@freebsd:/root # diff /boot/loader.conf-20170114-1232 /boot/loader.conf > 13a14 >> kern.vty=vt Should be the default for FreeBSD 10.x, but does no harm(TM). > 7. Install Xfce: > > toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce > > (Based upon xfce package notes, the file I previously created for polkit > based upon package installation notes was for Suspend, not for Shut Down and > Restart. Forget it -- Shut Down and Restart can work without it.) This step is a little unclear. > 9. Create D-Bus machine identifier: > > toor@freebsd:/root # dbus-uuidgen --ensure=/etc/machine-id I have never done this and do not have that file. > 10. Enable Xfce Shut Down and Restart by starting dbus and hald at system > boot: > > toor@freebsd:/root # diff /etc/rc.conf-20170114-1648 /etc/rc.conf > 12a13,14 >> dbus_enable="YES" >> hald_enable="YES" It is possible to build the ports with hal disabled. > 11. Edit startx to silence xauth warning about missing serverauth: > > toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx > 182c182 > < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF > --- >> touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF I have never done this, either. > 12. Add Xfce settings to silence xfce4-session warnings "No GPG agent found" > and "SSH authentication agent is already running": Never did this, either. Might be due to xfce4-session trying to automatically start services that are already running. That is configurable. > 13. Install xscreensaver to enable Panel -> Action Buttons -> Lock Screen and > Application Menu -> Settings -> Screensaver. Optional, but okay. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 18:17:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36345CB7FAF for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21FE01FB5 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:17:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <7abf2904-dd77-3181-9878-05b9196a9082@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:17:12 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:17:14 -0000 On 01/19/17 09:53, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: > >> 1. Erase system drive. > > Not necessary, but does no harm. I take images of my system drives with dd | gzip. Zeroing the drives saves space. BTW -- is there a ZFS equivalent of "zerofree"? If and when I understand slices, partitions, boot loaders, etc., and how to serialize/ de-serialize unencrypted/ encrypted swap and ZFS file systems, I'll have another option. >> 5. Based upon xorg package notes, create >> /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf: >> >> toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf >> # Recommended by xorg package: >> Section "Files" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "freetype" >> EndSection > > This probably needs updates, but also probably does no harm. What updates? How? >> 6. Per handbook section 5.4.3, edit /boot/loader.conf: >> >> toor@freebsd:/root # diff /boot/loader.conf-20170114-1232 >> /boot/loader.conf >> 13a14 >>> kern.vty=vt > > Should be the default for FreeBSD 10.x, but does no harm(TM). I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. If the information is obsolete, the handbook should be updated. >> 7. Install Xfce: >> >> toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce >> >> (Based upon xfce package notes, the file I previously created for >> polkit based upon package installation notes was for Suspend, not for >> Shut Down and Restart. Forget it -- Shut Down and Restart can work >> without it.) > > This step is a little unclear. How about this: 7. Install Xfce: toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce Ignore message: To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add .rules files in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/rules.d directory. Which looks like this (replace PUTYOURGROUPHERE by your group): polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart" || action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop") && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); For those who have working suspend/resume: polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend" && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { return polkit.Result.YES; } }); The message should be removed from the package. >> 9. Create D-Bus machine identifier: >> >> toor@freebsd:/root # dbus-uuidgen --ensure=/etc/machine-id > > I have never done this and do not have that file. I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. Xfce would not start without it. >> 10. Enable Xfce Shut Down and Restart by starting dbus and hald at >> system boot: >> >> toor@freebsd:/root # diff /etc/rc.conf-20170114-1648 /etc/rc.conf >> 12a13,14 >>> dbus_enable="YES" >>> hald_enable="YES" > > It is possible to build the ports with hal disabled. I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. >> 11. Edit startx to silence xauth warning about missing serverauth: >> >> toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx >> 182c182 >> < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF >> --- >>> touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF > > I have never done this, either. I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. I prefer zero warnings and zero errors. >> 12. Add Xfce settings to silence xfce4-session warnings "No GPG agent >> found" and "SSH authentication agent is already running": > > Never did this, either. Might be due to xfce4-session trying to > automatically start services that are already running. That is > configurable. I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. I prefer zero warnings and zero errors. >> 13. Install xscreensaver to enable Panel -> Action Buttons -> Lock >> Screen and Application Menu -> Settings -> Screensaver. > > Optional, but okay. I expect screen saver/ locking to work OOTB. 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Thread-Topic: Does anyone have any idea about KDE5 release ? 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Tilman_Keskin=c3=b6z?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:37:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:54:40 -0000 On 01/19/2017 20:05, Manish Jain wrote: > I am writing from my second box, the graphics chip of which is not yet > supported under FreeBSD. This box runs Manjaro Linux installed yesterday > with KDE5. > > > KDE5 is damn cool - the coolest interface I have seen since Windows > 2000/XP, definitely better than Apple's mediocriti. Manjaro's > implemetation is superb, but it is FreeBSD where I want to see KDE5. > Does anyone have any idea when kde under FreeBSD will start mapping to > KDE5 ? https://freebsd.kde.org/ has some unofficial packages. The freebsd-kde team (kde @ FreeBSD.org ) probably can tell you what is still missing. regards arved From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 19:54:56 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4496CB86C1 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ewayte@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x229.google.com (mail-yb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92BFF1809 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ewayte@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x229.google.com with SMTP id l23so33753578ybj.2 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:54:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=a7BWkLFgFBLwyNX6j5j6SZs/0gtCrhir54WU//ucm00=; b=NUdbcbGnBWzQ1dvoYLFTwJ7VWBheA04+4G8BtdiBwILWQYvuNRjkh5G5Jk6UkCsqRx 5ssW1kiHh1f/eCME60J2kvUQSwutx39U3KELWbBAvGqAPiknp5o2di3B7p0CuH5KGoPx WJZO2SiwaBy11QKralTUfiovWiSo9CuA+iiCW6Cc1i1JdetxKZgc+tbmof3vxICe9FUg AQME5vdP3uguTJOlVeouUh0jBnCc2TNkGP5TvVO3nkQViZp6K297nbNMqRHwSJLT/oNX iHIjndj4MylzspXd6jsjQJV8dNGPAy31w8CK0fSax7Qx9d/Zij7pi1c8A0KSJ2Uk05E8 Ceag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=a7BWkLFgFBLwyNX6j5j6SZs/0gtCrhir54WU//ucm00=; b=FiA1/A6N8qUBBE404KOLIaZ6U5a6MNor3aZVwlUKxAhYXLyjH+IPJLG/hUN6i6FgPD Tsj0Uk9i77LaLwQLmpXPm4lb4nFFRkmrOIrib5H3WH3w4ccptSQo39Gelnp26N7BM2e1 DTBZQL/zGLPlRv6LuRPIKD0ElbnxKCsxRB9+tEbyZnFu04Xp+miNa2gHXHsA7AvrYDrk dvO56Ssa7iWzYcPnMDtSAMQdg2kVsT1KBtkp90jktiZc818u/YLYd1JNDzXR1ixTMnPx XvB+dJB0nGibqFrIxQn4kP9/NHXXVo9eq3Pdr+/PNUofqwRBsJhSRvI1CH/GaJY+USw8 jxhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLs1MDjeyZQHbx3EgR+YbQ+4ucPc+SlVuMODH7kuFm6aErVqhnDtzOJdUt60zv5qb1dATMEtMrhFt+J7g== X-Received: by 10.233.237.136 with SMTP id c130mr10093275qkg.160.1484855695687; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:54:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.164.69 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:54:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eric Wayte Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does anyone have any idea about KDE5 release ? To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:54:57 -0000 Did you check here: https://freebsd.kde.org/ ? On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi, > > > I am writing from my second box, the graphics chip of which is not yet > supported under FreeBSD. This box runs Manjaro Linux installed yesterday > with KDE5. > > > KDE5 is damn cool - the coolest interface I have seen since Windows > 2000/XP, definitely better than Apple's mediocriti. Manjaro's > implemetation is superb, but it is FreeBSD where I want to see KDE5. > Does anyone have any idea when kde under FreeBSD will start mapping to > KDE5 ? > > > Thanks for any information. > > Manish Jain > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Eric Wayte From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 21:25:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D9FCB8EE7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC4S25.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s25.hotmail.com [65.55.90.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AD9A1BAA for ; 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I can mount them on my FreeBSD 11 machine; however, I cannot change the file ownership on the device. I have a rsync script for backing up the "/var/mail/vmail" and it subdirectories that are created by dovecot. I cannot use the script to back up to the USB drive since it cannot change the file ownership. I hope I am explaining this correctly. My question is how do I change the ownership of a mounted USB drive formated with FAT32 or exFat? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 21:42:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7159CA691F for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55751ABB for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 97F5533C22; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:42:26 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Gerard Seibert Cc: "freebsd-questions\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to change ownership on USB device References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:42:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Gerard Seibert's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:24:47 +0000") Message-ID: <447f5qloal.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:42:28 -0000 Gerard Seibert writes: > I have several USB devices, all formatted with FAT32 or exFat. I can > mount them on my FreeBSD 11 machine; however, I cannot change the file > ownership on the device. I have a rsync script for backing up the > "/var/mail/vmail" and it subdirectories that are created by dovecot. I > cannot use the script to back up to the USB drive since it cannot > change the file ownership. > > I hope I am explaining this correctly. My question is how do I change > the ownership of a mounted USB drive formated with FAT32 or exFat? It's an option to the mount command. If you're using the one from the base system, see "man mount_msdosfs". 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RULEID:(22001)(1601124038)(5061506344)(5061507293)(1603103113)(1603101340)(1601125047)(1701031023); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT065; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(444111334)(444112120)(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT065; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT065; x-forefront-prvs: 0192E812EC spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 19 Jan 2017 22:08:51.6808 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1NAM02HT065 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2017 22:08:52.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E81B480:01D272A0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:08:58 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:42:26 -0500, Lowell Gilbert stated: > carmel_ny writes: >=20 > > I have several USB devices, all formatted with FAT32 or exFat. I can > > mount them on my FreeBSD 11 machine; however, I cannot change the > > file ownership on the device. I have a rsync script for backing up > > the "/var/mail/vmail" and it subdirectories that are created by > > dovecot. I cannot use the script to back up to the USB drive since > > it cannot change the file ownership. > > > > I hope I am explaining this correctly. My question is how do I > > change the ownership of a mounted USB drive formated with FAT32 or > > exFat? =20 >=20 > It's an option to the mount command. > If you're using the one from the base system, see "man mount_msdosfs". I configured the system to automount the drive. I suppose I could just unmount it with "automount -fu" and them remount it via mount_msdosfs. I will give it a try. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 22:11:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E758CB8AD7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48DF4156A for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0JMBukd081587 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0JMBtql081584; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <7abf2904-dd77-3181-9878-05b9196a9082@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:56 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:11:58 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: > On 01/19/17 09:53, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, David Christensen wrote: >> >>> 1. Erase system drive. >> >> Not necessary, but does no harm. > > I take images of my system drives with dd | gzip. Zeroing the drives saves > space. Saves space how? Note that this should not be used with SSDs, it will really mess up their idea of used blocks. dd is not the greatest backup method anyway, I have written a little about that: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html > BTW -- is there a ZFS equivalent of "zerofree"? Sorry, don't know. Not sure of the usefulness of that, assuming it writes zeros to unused space. >>> 5. Based upon xorg package notes, create >>> /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf: >>> >>> toor@freebsd:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fonts.conf >>> # Recommended by xorg package: >>> Section "Files" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/dejavu/" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> Load "freetype" >>> EndSection >> >> This probably needs updates, but also probably does no harm. > > What updates? How? I don't know, would have to investigate the Handbook fonts section to see what is outdated. > If the information is obsolete, the handbook should be updated. The Handbook is valid for more than one major branch, though. > 7. Install Xfce: > > toor@freebsd:/root # pkg install xfce > > Ignore message: > > To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add .rules > files in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/rules.d directory. Which looks > like this (replace PUTYOURGROUPHERE by your group): > > polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { > if ((action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart" || > action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop") > && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { > return polkit.Result.YES; > } > }); > > For those who have working suspend/resume: > > polkit.addRule(function (action, subject) { > if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend" > && subject.isInGroup("PUTYOURGROUPHERE")) { > return polkit.Result.YES; > } > }); > > > The message should be removed from the package. All I can say is it has worked for me, on multiple machines and releases. >>> 9. Create D-Bus machine identifier: >>> >>> toor@freebsd:/root # dbus-uuidgen --ensure=/etc/machine-id >> >> I have never done this and do not have that file. > > I'm using FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img and packages. > > > Xfce would not start without it. Really? That seems odd. >>> 11. Edit startx to silence xauth warning about missing serverauth: >>> >>> toor@freebsd:/usr/local/bin # diff startx-20170111-1934-orig startx >>> 182c182 >>> < xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF >>> --- >>>> touch $xserverauthfile; xauth -q -f "$xserverauthfile" << EOF >> >> I have never done this, either. > > I prefer zero warnings and zero errors. Understood. I just don't recall seeing that. >>> 12. Add Xfce settings to silence xfce4-session warnings "No GPG agent >>> found" and "SSH authentication agent is already running": >> >> Never did this, either. Might be due to xfce4-session trying to >> automatically start services that are already running. That is >> configurable. > > I prefer zero warnings and zero errors. Pretty certain I've never seen that. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 22:14:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6673CB8BE6 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99129173D for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0JMEcaF082272 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:14:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0JMEc7R082269 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:14:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:14:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to change ownership on USB device In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <447f5qloal.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:14:38 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:14:39 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:42:26 -0500, Lowell Gilbert stated: > >> carmel_ny writes: >> >>> I have several USB devices, all formatted with FAT32 or exFat. I can >>> mount them on my FreeBSD 11 machine; however, I cannot change the >>> file ownership on the device. I have a rsync script for backing up >>> the "/var/mail/vmail" and it subdirectories that are created by >>> dovecot. I cannot use the script to back up to the USB drive since >>> it cannot change the file ownership. >>> >>> I hope I am explaining this correctly. My question is how do I >>> change the ownership of a mounted USB drive formated with FAT32 or >>> exFat? >> >> It's an option to the mount command. >> If you're using the one from the base system, see "man mount_msdosfs". > > I configured the system to automount the drive. I suppose I could > just unmount it with "automount -fu" and them remount it via > mount_msdosfs. I will give it a try. There is an example of how to pass parameters through the main mount command in the mount man page. Search for "option=value". From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 22:15:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64D2CB8C8C for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C5B11835 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from [80.67.16.131] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cUKzF-00042X-A6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:15:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:15:17 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> Message-ID: <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:15:20 -0000 At 2017-01-19 15:53, Warren Block was heard to say: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > >> At 2017-01-19 06:15, Warren Block was heard to say: >>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: >>> >>>> Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a >>>> `shutdown >>>> (-r|-p) now` wrapper. >>> >>> I just add those entries to the polkit file and it works. If there >>> is >>> something else that needs to be done, I did it a long time ago, but >>> I'm pretty sure I have set up machines from scratch with the same >>> configuration. >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> I just reinstalled a laptop with 11-RELEASE and ran into the very same >> problem that you seem to *not* have. I have enabled just about >> everything (polkitd|hald|dbus|whatnot) in rc.conf, I've granted my >> user account the rights to do everything in the polkit config file, >> and still cannot shut down or restart the box using XFCE's logout >> dialog. sudo /sbin/poweroff runs flawlessly though, so it is not >> really an issue. It is just a wart on an otherwise smooth setup. I >> have not tried to build XFCE from the ports tree though. Will try as >> soon as I get round to it. > > That's an interesting idea. Maybe the hal requirement when using > packages interferes with the shutdown. > > It would be nice to solve this, then we can add it to the pkg-message. Turns out to be a case of not RTFM. I do not use a display manager. Instead, I run startxfce4 from the console after logging in. The XFCE docs say to use startxfce4 --with-ck-launch in this case: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced Things may work out of the box if you use a display manager. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 00:18:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97DBCB585F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E0C1C7B for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8813E33C24; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2ECF73981A; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:18:27 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Gerard Seibert Cc: "freebsd-questions\@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to change ownership on USB device References: <447f5qloal.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:18:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Gerard Seibert's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:08:51 +0000") Message-ID: <44o9z2h9d8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:18:37 -0000 Gerard Seibert writes: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:42:26 -0500, Lowell Gilbert stated: > >> carmel_ny writes: >> >> > I have several USB devices, all formatted with FAT32 or exFat. I can >> > mount them on my FreeBSD 11 machine; however, I cannot change the >> > file ownership on the device. I have a rsync script for backing up >> > the "/var/mail/vmail" and it subdirectories that are created by >> > dovecot. I cannot use the script to back up to the USB drive since >> > it cannot change the file ownership. >> > >> > I hope I am explaining this correctly. My question is how do I >> > change the ownership of a mounted USB drive formated with FAT32 or >> > exFat? >> >> It's an option to the mount command. >> If you're using the one from the base system, see "man mount_msdosfs". > > I configured the system to automount the drive. I suppose I could > just unmount it with "automount -fu" and them remount it via > mount_msdosfs. I will give it a try. automount(8) uses mount(8), and can pass parameters to it. Do it by hand first, sure, to get the parameters correct, but automount can do this (via mount) if the user or group you need to set is always the same. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 01:11:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E132CB66F6 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x235.google.com (mail-ua0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05E9710A5 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 35so50116219uak.1 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:10:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LiESau++AFtmwZ1CsUUIaWf9j6DiOgf7xkE+E/W4KGc=; b=lf1LponspHTlfph3dCPCQnlL8Rhz76Dn2zlNSNECnXLhupDBiaygv+pe21F83SWwZ5 QvOx/iVTy0qq7pa3g+61pX0Oywa62fgkfmuVNLybAZksydhEmEBPuedycMPMdeln0z5p rtW54cQ250DFzLEODE89XfL6WxQ/bc1mcs9JcgBm4SlXofvnWaD2g/GtB1rCx2ETEp9a WjB3hZGhQRlLbYlli1pq8Ngys4MUuZefDTcN0RmW84psGbjfsXJNrhnCtxw0Qbmk1M7N Ayvukp7Tu9aD/buRDANFVOIfnU15vrbHOEqQzjKAVENpOfgK6ceIgHUn0oTTMJM0vFLq 7TfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LiESau++AFtmwZ1CsUUIaWf9j6DiOgf7xkE+E/W4KGc=; b=saYdYNfZrRajwOVCIH43wJzckGvtlUf7NRYZwP1HmrwI+XBZKNElr9iNgKQWqQCn54 PXdyhQCltrV2MNuWndMHTtGOW61R6wJRgE++ii4b4lt+5xSX64g7oQxA/VuynpYn2rdu g0Y1VrnYhCh797SpIv4ZfwpvpO8L1UXsxS6TQVLMBLKpT1PT8WK5ELKyW0IAHgFES93P 3ScPb/qPfKqsaOytKY3T//wgodT3abDCgtImVWuBS7vvx/OsPfvLOBx+7OxAvRf0h/Y4 yHh767+MbfHOYPW/vB/dUVv2ChVSnBE0PHbuJNVd1sX9MDpQuwv8h3I2jkgVVjERzAia 1B8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIOUH4divXrlCGfXSmEtb8et76v2RNYskTIDfj2CpExYjgCYUF+fqnMmiFUypCM1AhLbU4H286gzvdWvA== X-Received: by 10.159.36.112 with SMTP id 103mr6334729uaq.76.1484874658967; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:10:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.66 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:10:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> <20161129061033.GA2007@c720-r292778-amd64> From: David I Noel Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:10:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:00 -0000 I'm sure there's a phpbb-scraper somewhere on GitHub. Edit: It's "Xen-Foro". Here's a sample JS-based one (JS -> SQLite3): https://github.com/qjroberts/xenforo-scraper On 11/29/16, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Monday, November 28, 2016 a las 03:37:25PM -0600, David I Noe= l > escribi=C3=B3: > >> > Forums do so as well, we are usually just not used to terminal >> > browsers. > > Forums do not do well, not in a fancy browser, not in lynx (which > I'm used to use for many things), because one must be online all the > time to read/sort/delete/answer messages. With the lists I'm fetching the= m > down in a few minutes, read, delete and answer(!) them offline, and later= I > let do sendmail its job to send out my answers in a few seconds when I > go online again. > > matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 01:11:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F949CB6805 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x236.google.com (mail-ua0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC9AF1177 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 35so50120730uak.1 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:11:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=1+NrV3mzUlIdUaEH7P35g42GtbyCn/sAKry0w73f7Zo=; b=YdTFk61TVhj5fdOwi6Km7zocY0Kr294e9rwafXP6X4Bs3ZPDKAomnHqoP/s7afvPcP 137NU7d99607/6dEqw2/fqwRueVJrmFr4JsFmZxrwFGkqkhsTvybY4HzVM4081BJ/6Do 7mW3U5uflU0gbJdXGUDknOip8SsmMkeuMspuLYgYQrX733mSbxJrP68RSfzO9Hbguamm PnWVGrXgoCorfwBj/JweTpkf6izDDf4VLdO7HLoTJz3hwSAVw3o/aiYfNUpasBY02LfD 9JMXtIdK5OhianAlORmqUTwTgXda6BWh/mWiVX1c5v2dpWLAfzytdtq0P6AUZAvluMIz f7ow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1+NrV3mzUlIdUaEH7P35g42GtbyCn/sAKry0w73f7Zo=; b=WNf8YnbAqPF/74Ck2CkfB1/NWUVzsifD35CE9Wo+IHrfkpCmlU9Njcg+HuRrrHU9kc Zr1+2m6gpO7/1kUW6YFohBI3qCGqd6b2O9DiabJnrx76j4I8r2mEZkjxAiNHx8m0tAXp AFsXRKWTvT7pc75Ox4dVFdDczOvc2ubn8Q0Gp6HaZffnVMOUl8Dg35ucu9THmMfKHh8N 8DXI1GA2V0EBmyaWdSDH84y+P1uNsSvEShzxpPj+YSiWY3jQrYsndvXqpnl/pKWPH4KP asfDz9PgZAmsRSR5zAEU8hitVElbVgV+qyOjx0GM8n8+02cK+Dv3snhOaNmylzXdxe+T WTDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ7SyHrthYH+E6BORJ2aGmtuaq/noDQHc0TF3h+WG22HO9rAIr1qCM81seLZMjxqANKe1ZsvH15E/i9hw== X-Received: by 10.159.35.52 with SMTP id 49mr5287405uae.113.1484874679896; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:11:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.66 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:11:19 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20161230004207.U26979@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20161230004207.U26979@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: David I Noel Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:11:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Ian Smith Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:11:21 -0000 We've identified a massive and recurring issue of spam. Even if you disagree that spam is a problem, you agree that conversations about spam is a problem so solving the problem of spam would solve your problem of conversations about spam. You said you work with postmaster to deal with specific issues. How do you accomplish this? The responses have been overwhelmingly positive in favor of doing something about spam, yet overwhelmingly pessimistic about the possible outcome of anything ever happening about it. FWIW, forums can be accessed on computers without "X-like GUI's" or mouses as well. David On 12/29/16, Ian Smith wrote: > and work with postmaster@ team as necessary to deal with specific issues From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 03:05:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D04CB7609 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8AE31E8A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=TnlcrQaBtlOiKR+xqHzLI8zYgVbbO2V/1FLM1tba+GB/djsUsJmzpbN5N8aSwwk4ZP +JbV9Ax+pIPo8mw52QxcuKMQm+xxvuZYVT0OzXQt/xlSz8ipA7nLoD5Dr3pMihTx/AdP 1HH52TS1fbxsYkH9fr+OH+2O87Txzd1MosvaaiXEfuZ/tHhKMMm6MsW2Ed7pmMmOImN7 wYcZwjma04h1ZL6ALQ/Y6U5nFtelYbaA/LmqSav4KvLnAWGRpC04Rq7PdyFtd/FbYhJk D9uNVe4IY7Psgo/BLb+GRSQNn9gPOJD++RM0hHioZZmtyk4n5gLGTzk9blyE6rAZHsoW 0MBw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484881490; x=1485486290; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=IgxsIh1GBEH yBoIRTzbYR8P83G803VsoKhL8VL/Gnsc=; b=X4K7ep5vh/CAGpZMFnxi3OKCAMF 69EGlJmQ8gKeROi/1buGPJn2KbMdripNNuiJJdROIfyJaBGLBUFqWOLIXtFUKb8r Jm3tpj5nMSKNxdB4RzVruxGO4qufchA/NMS/RR8bqxcC2kQWeNejijqTZEHM2cv+ o+qyaGUGl0EEPyhgtldvv6919VnNOnyhgF/laEbVQ3tAl9dLCAH80N+U5zw09xSs cYiq4naqjOnIMIfoZ7qbq5H+HnAtPS9cvRTnfVgKIa9jSEz6OCtHYyE4gGyR11Fe kZlRlou+d+5IFZo8VXaNuyEnkdadnJpRz3qXzq2bzuK7Q/P1SR/CMx4hOkw== Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1245556; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:04:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Tuning Route Cache To: dweimer@dweimer.net, FreeBSD Questions References: From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <28d24a44-9e1c-7c12-d7e8-6f243a350510@radel.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:04:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040306020205080504010206" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:05:00 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040306020205080504010206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/18/17 11:55 AM, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > I have been searching, but so far unsuccessfully found any hints. I hav= e > a situation that occurred with a FreeBSD server that is running 11.0 > that is in a DMZ with its default router directing traffic to other > routers in the same subnet. we had one of those routers get swapped out= > last night. however the FreeBSD server still had the old router in its > cache, and couldn't communicate with the remote sites. >=20 You don't seem to have gotten any responses, at least on the list, so I'll take a stab at this. I'm handicapped by a complete lack of knowledge as to how you're getting those routes into the routing table in the first place. You don't really appear to say. It appears that you're not using static routes, as you expect things to happen automatically. Are you using a routing protocol (RIP, etc.). Are you counting on Router Discovery working? Are you depending on ICMP Redirects? Have you confirmed that the appropriate routing daemon is actually running? Have you confirmed that the routers are actually advertising routes correctly? As far as I recall, the *longest* time that you should have stale routes hanging around is 30 minutes if you use Router Discovery with the default settings. Everything else should, unless you really break it, converge much faster than that. See man 8 routed for more on some of that, including reducing the 30 minutes. > I need to find a way to shorten this cache, I understand why its there > to prevent repeated lookups, this doesn't happen all the time but I am > thinking if I could change this cache length to a couple of hours this > would have saved me a lot of trouble. As the routes would have cleared > out over night and when users got back on the network in the morning > everything would have been working. The routing table really doesn't work like that. If you're using static routing, nothing changes until you tell it to. If you're using a routing protocol then a daemon is responsible for adding and removing routes based on what it learns, and routes that are no longer advertised by a router go away pretty quickly. Even if you want routes learned from an ICMP Redirect to be cleaned up automatically, you'll need routed to do it for you. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF18CB998C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04DA158C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:35:42 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without password Message-ID: <3a018208-2ad4-1b1d-302d-e5ab4f1f2fad@holgerdanske.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:35:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:35:50 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a computer: toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-version 11.0-RELEASE-p7 toor@freebsd:/root # uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I am attempting to mount a Microsoft Windows shared folder (//dc8ct591/data) into my home directory (freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist/.data) at boot, without having to enter my password. Using Xfce and Thunar, I can browse the network, see the shared folder, enter my credentials, and access files within the share. After RTFM and STFW, this is my current attempt: toor@freebsd:/root # ll /etc/fstab -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 230 Jan 19 19:41 /etc/fstab toor@freebsd:/root # grep dc8ct591 /etc/fstab //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data smbfs rw,-N 0 0 toor@freebsd:/root # ll /etc/nsmb.conf -rw------- 1 root wheel uarch 85 Jan 19 19:42 /etc/nsmb.conf toor@freebsd:/root # cat /etc/nsmb.conf [default] workgroup=WORKGROUP [dc8ct591:dpchrist] password= If I run 'mount' with the -d option, I can see the system call to 'mount_smbfs': toor@freebsd:/root # mount -d /usr/home/dpchrist/.data exec: mount_smbfs -o rw -N //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data If I then run 'mount_smbfs' without the -N option and enter the password for dpchrist@dc8ct591, it works: toor@freebsd:/root # mount_smbfs -o rw //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data Password: toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep -i dc8ct591 //DPCHRIST@DC8CT591/DATA on /usr/home/dpchrist/.data (smbfs) But if run 'mount', or 'mount_smbfs' manually with the -N option, it fails: toor@freebsd:/root # umount /usr/home/dpchrist/.data toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep -i dc8ct591 toor@freebsd:/root # mount /usr/home/dpchrist/.data mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error toor@freebsd:/root # mount_smbfs -o rw -N //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error I get the same result for shared folders on Samba 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u11 on Debian 7 (Wheezy) and on Windows XP SP2. I don't know how to get more information about the "Authentication error" encountered by mount_smbfs (no --verbose or --debug option, and doesn't seem to write into any file in /var/log). Any suggestions? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 12:49:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50509CB7325 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.dweimer.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31CBF179A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0KCnjm2025749; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:49:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:49:45 -0600 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Jon Radel Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Tuning Route Cache Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <28d24a44-9e1c-7c12-d7e8-6f243a350510@radel.com> References: <28d24a44-9e1c-7c12-d7e8-6f243a350510@radel.com> Message-ID: <23dc5b28cf21bbea762700e426346d39@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3-beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:49:53 -0000 On 2017-01-19 9:04 pm, Jon Radel wrote: > On 1/18/17 11:55 AM, Dean E. Weimer wrote: >> I have been searching, but so far unsuccessfully found any hints. I >> have >> a situation that occurred with a FreeBSD server that is running 11.0 >> that is in a DMZ with its default router directing traffic to other >> routers in the same subnet. we had one of those routers get swapped >> out >> last night. however the FreeBSD server still had the old router in its >> cache, and couldn't communicate with the remote sites. >> > > You don't seem to have gotten any responses, at least on the list, so > I'll take a stab at this. > > I'm handicapped by a complete lack of knowledge as to how you're > getting > those routes into the routing table in the first place. You don't > really appear to say. It appears that you're not using static routes, > as you expect things to happen automatically. Are you using a routing > protocol (RIP, etc.). Are you counting on Router Discovery working? > Are > you depending on ICMP Redirects? > > Have you confirmed that the appropriate routing daemon is actually > running? Have you confirmed that the routers are actually advertising > routes correctly? > > As far as I recall, the *longest* time that you should have stale > routes > hanging around is 30 minutes if you use Router Discovery with the > default settings. Everything else should, unless you really break it, > converge much faster than that. See > > man 8 routed > > for more on some of that, including reducing the 30 minutes. > > >> I need to find a way to shorten this cache, I understand why its there >> to prevent repeated lookups, this doesn't happen all the time but I am >> thinking if I could change this cache length to a couple of hours this >> would have saved me a lot of trouble. As the routes would have cleared >> out over night and when users got back on the network in the morning >> everything would have been working. > > The routing table really doesn't work like that. If you're using > static > routing, nothing changes until you tell it to. If you're using a > routing protocol then a daemon is responsible for adding and removing > routes based on what it learns, and routes that are no longer > advertised > by a router go away pretty quickly. Even if you want routes learned > from an ICMP Redirect to be cleaned up automatically, you'll need > routed > to do it for you. See the above referenced man page. Not using any routing protocol on the FreeBSD server it only has a default gateway set. The default gateway along with the other routers are in the same subnet, so the router responds with a route redirection, then the FreeBSD server caches that they show up if you do a netstat -rnf inet listing the remote devices and the next hop. These are staying there at least 11 hours that I can confirm. I guess maybe a solution would be to set the server up with a routing protocol and let it talk to the router to get the updates rather than just receive the re directions. But that seems overly complex. They show up with a flag of UGHD and no expire listed. Flags U=RTF_UP, G=RTF_GATEWAY, H=RTF_HOST, D=RTF_DYNAMIC (by Redirect) Perhaps the change needs to occur on the Cisco router so that it sends an expiration along with the redirect. -- Thanks, Dean E. 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SRVR:CO1NAM03HT067; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CO1NAM03HT067; x-forefront-prvs: 01930B2BA8 spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0F330BE7B7EBE44ABAC2D0DAFDCE95A3@namprd20.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 20 Jan 2017 13:14:54.9037 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CO1NAM03HT067 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2017 13:14:56.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[31C06B00:01D2731F] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:16:03 -0000 I am trying to use "mount_smbfs" to mount a Windows 10 share and copy data to it. My user name on the windows machine has a "@" in it, ie. "me@outlook.com". How do I use it with this command? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 14:23:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AB4CB81BA for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4203310B3 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:26:25 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B34B83CC3F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:23:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0KENOeS002037 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:23:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:23:24 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: using "mount_smbfs" Message-Id: <20170120152324.545f30b0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with A59986A35D1 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1788 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:23:35 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:14:54 +0000, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am trying to use "mount_smbfs" to mount a Windows 10 share and copy > data to it. My user name on the windows machine has a "@" in it, ie. > "me@outlook.com". How do I use it with this command? If I remember correctly, you can add this information to your /etc/nsmb.conf or user-specific ~/nsmb.conf: [winbox:bob@example.com] password=12345 And then use /etc/fstab for setting up how to mount the share: //winbox/bobstuff /smb/bob10 smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 I haven't tested this, but according to "man nsmb.conf" it could work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 14:28:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809C0CB8381 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30DE71233 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=B39s07gvWkKiqSmYz9pKdnUmncjB6cDayblNhH+UKJu+xKjZyqeEZxgx+cu+NvcGG8 DA2V/uppBIeoeBjslLdBH5k7EbMDBDx6QeEKIrRyv3JErUD49TDBbO29DHbjzLdnuSvY g7BL7/E4NEVy8Lz2u5lZmoLH5ekbCKcNuwFiCFflHmuHDUYNHz0eot/ZJc5z2mybgdi5 4le9QaBdTWiQRrSexZWe7QfoOWQCD1AMtUnK2M5SJculs0krq7wCmFEE4IjyyeVgZb/V ReP2hMv1EoFT/p+/oROGp2byMum0DtHXgCpm9y96WikBdooQiA91RGsfISQ3xppsvIdQ Vv5A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484922486; x=1485527286; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=GGdXYFw0sih RrwlNgH2kgf7/Oxej1CbpPm2/jC4vh18=; b=LlZEv2mzVDXndg4PYT7ktEs9WCL tLk45rTak8X20JTV0YO5CXjQZwYv3NmwNmH0wPmfxefQKtpSeAa3PiAITbI4PNd0 RsiGknCYRg0GNnDrpRVfCayj5a+tLQlR1bL1SQZncexrUhvaJKjXPfJrsT6jjszt PyWLMGCRcejbAq1gbs/0jT4MGxkp0ZRsYoHZijX23RlFmTr4ta7sAXdeYTKYnVT5 3SJFyPb5AsD69iLdxfRDZOwquQkEZeMFVZFUTAWl9aFdDvZ7sFGI+BGP+le6LcR5 oHB+I9Vm8uJf7gyEFMPRXN+5r780IzQ6nF4VajCz/ULrb1JaVqB7h9s4YLw== Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1245767; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:28:06 +0000 Subject: Re: Tuning Route Cache To: dweimer@dweimer.net References: <28d24a44-9e1c-7c12-d7e8-6f243a350510@radel.com> <23dc5b28cf21bbea762700e426346d39@dweimer.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions From: Jon Radel Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:28:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23dc5b28cf21bbea762700e426346d39@dweimer.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050809030909050706080009" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:28:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050809030909050706080009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/20/17 7:49 AM, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > On 2017-01-19 9:04 pm, Jon Radel wrote: >> See >> >> man 8 routed >> >> for more on some of that, including reducing the 30 minutes. >> >> Even if you want routes learned >> from an ICMP Redirect to be cleaned up automatically, you'll need rout= ed >> to do it for you. See the above referenced man page. My earlier response reduced to the pertinent parts. You have now read the man page where it describes the mechanism that leads routed to clean up routes learned via ICMP Redirect when they stop working, right? You are running routed, right? > The default gateway along with the other routers are in the same subnet= , > so the router responds with a route redirection, then the FreeBSD serve= r > caches that they show up if you do a netstat -rnf inet listing the > remote devices and the next hop. These are staying there at least 11 > hours that I can confirm. I guess maybe a solution would be to set the > server up with a routing protocol and let it talk to the router to get > the updates rather than just receive the re directions. But that seems > overly complex. RIP isn't *that* much more complicated than this chain of correspondence, but of course you'll need the Cicso router admin to play along. >=20 > Perhaps the change needs to occur on the Cisco router so that it sends > an expiration along with the redirect. >=20 >=20 Configuring the router to accurately forecast the future, so it knows when the network admin plans to change the topology, and then inserting that time into a packet that has no field for such data, now that's complicated. You'll need to redo a whole bunch of RFCs. And invent an accurate mechanism for forecasting the future, after which your server will be the very least of your worries. :-) See http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/icmp/msg5.htm for the details on that; there really isn't a mechanism built into redirects for expiring them. On FreeBSD, the only mechanisms I know about (and on this I'd love it if somebody can tell me about others) for clearing routes learned from a an ICMP Redirect are to manually remove the route or to allow the kernel and routed to interact to start pulling routes when TCP handshakes start timing out. Or you could just reboot your server on a regular basis, but that seems a bit crude. I suppose the closest thing to your original request would be to write a script and drop it into cron that removed all routes with the D (and M?) flags periodically. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms050809030909050706080009 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Cq8wggSvMIIDl6ADAgECAhEA4CPLFRKDU4mtYW56VGdrITANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBvMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJTRTEUMBIGA1UEChMLQWRkVHJ1c3QgQUIxJjAkBgNVBAsTHUFkZFRydXN0IEV4 dGVybmFsIFRUUCBOZXR3b3JrMSIwIAYDVQQDExlBZGRUcnVzdCBFeHRlcm5hbCBDQSBSb290 MB4XDTE0MTIyMjAwMDAwMFoXDTIwMDUzMDEwNDgzOFowgZsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMRswGQYD VQQIExJHcmVhdGVyIE1hbmNoZXN0ZXIxEDAOBgNVBAcTB1NhbGZvcmQxGjAYBgNVBAoTEUNP TU9ETyBDQSBMaW1pdGVkMUEwPwYDVQQDEzhDT01PRE8gU0hBLTI1NiBDbGllbnQgQXV0aGVu 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 16:06:51 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD02CB8C4E for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3B21B9C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A5F44882C; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0KG6ldm018957; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0KG6lav018954; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Mark Moellering cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about php in a jail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <9759d7e21a401b7f89f9318c1656867e.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <587DAD16.1040407@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:48 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:06:51 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Mark Moellering wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:35 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions > wrote: >> >> On Tue, January 17, 2017 00:35, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >>>> This past week I have been setting up a jail for a drupal7 >>>> website. I am now at the point where I need to update the >>>> modules and I would like to employ the drush cli utility. >>>> To install this on a Drupal7 website it is suggested to run >>>> this command in the Drupal document root: >>>> >>>> >>>> php -r >>>> "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > >>>> drush >>>> >>>> However, when I run this inside the jail then I see this error, >>>> >>>> PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did >>>> you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line >>>> code on line 1 >>>> PHP Warning: >>>> readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): >>>> failed to open stream: No such file or directory in Command >>>> line code on line 1. >>>> >>>> If I run the same command on the host system of the jail then I >>>> do not get this error. What am I missing with respect to the >>>> jailed setup? >>>> >>> >>> I have no idea what Drupal is and you provided no details about how >>> you populated the jail with it. So just a shot in the dark. >> >> Thanks you for your reply. Drupal is a Web Content Management System. >> Drush is an ancillary project that automates numerous common >> maintenance tasks involving a Drupal installation. Both Drupal and >> Drush are written in PHP. Drupal was installed using 'pkg install >> drupal7' >> >>> >>> Sounds like your jail does not have public internet access. Is the >>> jails IP address being NATed by your hosts firewall? >> >> The jail does have internet access via NAT configured on our gateway >> router. Installing and updating packages from within the jail work >> fine. I can ssh in and out. I can ping the jail. I cannot ping out, >> but that is expected behaviour for a jail. >> >>> >>> Issuing "whois 9.9.9.9" from with in your running jail should return >>> results if the jail/host firewall is configured correctly. >>> >>> You really need to post details about what steps you did before more >>> people can help you. >> >> I regret is my original question was perfunctory. The issue seems to >> me to be one of a missing component or php module rather than anything >> to do with network connectivity. >> >> I initially took a too literal approach to installing Drush as there >> exists a package for it. I installed Drush within the jail via pkg >> install and things work fine. >> >> I am not sure what the issue is with php because I can wget the file >> from inside the jail, I just cannot get the recommended php command to >> work. >> >> # wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar >> --2017-01-17 09:18:43-- >> https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar >> Resolving s3.amazonaws.com (s3.amazonaws.com)... 54.231.80.243 >> Connecting to s3.amazonaws.com >> (s3.amazonaws.com)|54.231.80.243|:443... connected. >> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK >> Length: 6135132 (5.9M) [application/octet-stream] >> Saving to: 'drush.phar' >> >> drush.phar 100%[=======================>] 5.85M 1.20MB/s >> in 5.0s >> >> 2017-01-17 09:18:58 (1.17 MB/s) - 'drush.phar' saved [6135132/6135132] >> >> >> # php -r >> "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > >> drush >> PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you >> forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on >> line 1 >> PHP Warning: >> readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed >> to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line >> 1 >> >> >> I ran across references to 'extension=php_openssl.dll' in php.ini >> having some bearing on this elsewhere >> (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5444249/unable-to-find-the-wrapper-https-did-you-forget-to-enable-it-when-you-config) >> but I cannot see that a .dll and FreeBSD have much in common. >> None-the-less I checked this and found these references: >> >> # grep php_openssl /usr/local/etc/* >> /usr/local/etc/php.ini:;extension=php_openssl.dll >> /usr/local/etc/php.ini-development:;extension=php_openssl.dll >> /usr/local/etc/php.ini-production:;extension=php_openssl.dll >> >> Changing the commented reference in /usr/local/etc/php.ini gives the >> dismal results I anticipated: >> >> # php -r >> "readfile('https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar');" > >> drush >> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library >> '/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll' - Cannot open >> "/usr/local/lib/php/20131226/php_openssl.dll" in Unknown on line 0 >> PHP Warning: readfile(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you >> forget to enable it when you configured PHP? in Command line code on >> line 1 >> PHP Warning: >> readfile(https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.drush.org/drush.phar): failed >> to open stream: No such file or directory in Command line code on line >> 1 >> >> >> Fortunately, the packaged version of Drush installed cleanly and works >> fine. The only mystery I have is why the errors only occur in the >> jail. >> >> > > I think this may be more of a php issue. I haven't set up Drupal in a > jail but I know php and I know jails. Here are my thoughts. > php can have multiple .ini files, one file for the webserver, > (Apache, Nginx, etc.) and another one for running from the command > line. If you search for php.ini on your system and find two (or more) > , that could be the issue, you could have different settings in the > two .php files. > > There are a couple of gotchas about jails. You don't have access to > devices or other items that some programs require, unless you set them > up. Some programs or specific commands may need access to specific > parts of the kernel. Postgresql (for example) requires access to > System V flags, which operate at the kernel level and require some > extra set up steps to get working in a jail. > > If you are having problems, try and figure out what parts of the > system a program needs access to and then try and figure out if the > jail has that access, or if you need to simulate it, etc. I can definitively say this is a PHP issue. We host several clients with Drupal. One of which we manage. Depending on the version of FreeBSD options on the packages change. If you did not build PHP that would be a place to start. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 16:29:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9804ACB9317 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com (mail-lf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EEDD188A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id k86so61275413lfi.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:29:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7JCbcB5m4JfGX79YTjVCkP+Y8Zg1OX6kCgraTXFHYcs=; b=FmmeY41olkcl7k4WqZ3M2LapeEb0UkWiklyySTm6MFv6YVkitC6GzLa9nkOR3P0Xyp 09q6Jjy0B8AFB6jjPPGEO45/ZQlp5OK/jLtG0eUlAhUAulaLttSCjoN0Tu/9MH0cUblG XwG2DU1/46ImX7qNunXRp27lIXz2pnSYBFmILuYQlCUyMN4u4Y7OzQ8yxHEq6ATWF158 sW3Iqx2Hxma6ofNxH6Me2EZ95/ALDnw48ppqPyqJgE3BPQYalQbp73IUAlqRDCY5Q43p w/iIK7OILmf9wG2n42RVAqPEeMfvOP5ESx8D/uzmdXpsfOrnAQQ88+Zfws5+hDLc831t nwVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7JCbcB5m4JfGX79YTjVCkP+Y8Zg1OX6kCgraTXFHYcs=; b=fbAQ188IlIz4ALSlVvgi1DJ9EbvvZfwxivTMqHVcMJoMVvvxKvho52qS8+zQMygrlP F2LTWtF3PNQBa8aWVnrCXghb5Ibnb7Fo+ii4SCaG604MXEFKRXCs80T4BlIuuw0D1YqV 95IWoI0KRMbQkfNcSplSSGRwQTj6H6LTSXAdXrRASdfLpHLQ056DJodm4hyN0OiWQuli yFWxO4E9b0/aW5jxtQGkOCZoP6bJDDFX8KqCaoroSCZauEztYscz1DUXhfqmao9zb42u oTiZy5v9jAuWsI6lWcXP+n1EJzGz1p1wzD4Dp4/NLaI/5REcaVF1V7AvjkECYmiDoPRo Ya0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLXzM5ZA+VupgB1NAmCIQd68khmv6br6yu6cZdAtF/lSNbCHDf/gMeHLsdu25Yc7xHIi+3uQLzJPMsdLw== X-Received: by 10.25.25.133 with SMTP id 127mr327681lfz.153.1484929764019; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.79.15 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:29:23 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:29:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 12-CURRENT in VirtualBox To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:29:27 -0000 Hi, I can't get FreeBSD 12 r311461 to boot in VirtualBox. I'm using this image: http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/12.0-CURRENT/i386/20170105/FreeBSD-12.0-CURRENT-i386-20170105-r311461.vmdk.xz properly uncompressed. VirtualBox version is 5.1.14 (pkg installed). FreeBSD panics during boot with the following message: panic: atpic_assign_cpu: bad cookie I tried disabling ACPI to no luck. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 16:55:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28ACECB9142 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB4511EC9 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0KGt6fk027636 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:55:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0KGt6EL027633; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:55:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:55:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Markus Hoenicka cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:55:06 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:55:08 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Turns out to be a case of not RTFM. I do not use a display manager. Instead, > I run startxfce4 from the console after logging in. The XFCE docs say to use > startxfce4 --with-ck-launch in this case: > > http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced > > Things may work out of the box if you use a display manager. I do not use a display manager either, not worth the effort for me. Just startx. My .xinitrc has this: # WB: map the Zap combination setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 17:02:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD313CB9485 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E58E1399 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.112.229] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUcZh-0007jw-1F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:02:05 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v0KH24vX003901 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:02:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v0KH241s003900 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:02:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:02:03 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop Message-ID: <20170120170203.GA3685@c720-r292778-amd64.oa.oclc.org> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.112.229 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:02:13 -0000 El día Friday, January 20, 2017 a las 09:55:06AM -0700, Warren Block escribió: > I do not use a display manager either, not worth the effort for me. > Just startx. > > My .xinitrc has this: > > # WB: map the Zap combination > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch Mine one is this: cd setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp xrandr --output default --mode 1366x768 /usr/local/bin/xbindkeys test -f startkde.log && mv startkde.log startkde.log.last mixer vol 91 exec /usr/local/bin/startkde 2>&1 | while read line; do echo -n "$(date '+%T'): "; echo $line ; test "$line" = "startkde: Done." && exit ; done | tee -a startkde.log This logs the stdout/stderr of KDE into a file with timestamps in front. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wo ist der antiimperialistische Schutzwall, wenn man ihn braucht? US-Panzertransport durch ex-DDR" "Where is the anti-imperialistic wall, if it's needed? Transport of US-tanks through the ex-GDR" https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/45282-us-panzertransporte-durch-ex-ddr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 17:11:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8272CCB98E4 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49FD019D9 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.112.229] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUcik-0001qa-VA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:27 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v0KHBQaY004049 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v0KHBPqi004048 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: stop charging laptop battery when full Message-ID: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.112.229 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:11:29 -0000 Hello, I can ask the current capacity (and other values) of the battery with: $ /sbin/sysctl hw.acpi.battery hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5 hw.acpi.battery.units: 1 hw.acpi.battery.state: 2 hw.acpi.battery.time: -1 hw.acpi.battery.life: 39 While charging, is there a way to stop the charging when hw.acpi.battery.life reached 100 to protect the (LI-ion) battery? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wo ist der antiimperialistische Schutzwall, wenn man ihn braucht? US-Panzertransport durch ex-DDR" "Where is the anti-imperialistic wall, if it's needed? Transport of US-tanks through the ex-GDR" https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/45282-us-panzertransporte-durch-ex-ddr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 18:54:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E9ECB98F4 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 413261ADD for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2152B1A205B; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:53:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484938433; bh=BHBSH3Sv+jmNPkRpFAMxKD0DPIP9c/qSPAyR7Q+YnEk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=qVoeuexcp1V+l35Tvticpd93lsCMF+UYcjvHs/cufnbpFefDmDAbM/u53uXgfE3vU +CMln8udxoE0t9rHfOhiZgL1qPxh8LBTZH5M2o2EoaciBx4kupIbAV01usn0Z5CZWe ipUK3FRMvjGHkkdrnm8Er+gWcS8A1wufawnT/SXs= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id 97C211C2304 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:53:50 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: stop charging laptop battery when full Message-ID: <20170120135008.5168cc79@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/McgbbCr_MxLOj/CO7oHWLZ4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:54:00 -0000 --Sig_/McgbbCr_MxLOj/CO7oHWLZ4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > I can ask the current capacity (and other values) of the battery with: > [snip] > While charging, is there a way to stop the charging when > hw.acpi.battery.life reached 100 to protect the (LI-ion) battery? Such functionality should be provided by your battery's internal circuitry. Think about it, it wouldn't be safe for any consumer to buy a laptop which doesn't switch to DC power when the battery is full. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/McgbbCr_MxLOj/CO7oHWLZ4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAliCXL4ACgkQxKRHP62A DZl4IhAA1DafHLJ3CZLHRdKxwFus2PCw2uCa0ZLSKe6oYSZXZbajbX/XcnOkKZQF xz8sWUqHdYwQi9AdGaAL6nGDdiRjtrJ3r1aGV9dIob3vBYXKfDWbYjfukg1Uvfa+ vyCnXIbg7gB/7pHAXc/7JqDLLlAP/vnyPaSM4guIX4Fwzoa/88ws5GYMRaOZhNAM sopyRsde9xEfwdol6zB5MOxXLofroolAi0GRz6rhDCI5K/iTN9ictn0PsXWTMFKv 3e6/3G0yNI9bxfKMnrSB0rnSuhj6YABdgET0H3Ef6vOsyD7ZoR3s/SVlR9Fg5KCT p31n+wGAr3H42pCrEV42dtE10S09JVooG5YMJw4MCDE00jI4ludhZ6JeCLwDiJof yCIxrChUuWejPtTR6gpDmCQrlVx1yt7bR5hlp4PwQCokzNZEV4Ga/2mo5+UsT4H6 tgKvBkVo4njabziCn8FcZwql92SYsaT5xB9tOjiauhA793WrH1kFsH5svZZG9iPV MEhclAsY+84B/1fZbtOGcwGLB+YX1NPEstKqt2NliSF2faXvSDR58dgMuKKN48hW Rkavi9wO/zN60ATvHINFVblAQg5kOwv/da11Gk5zvfO8bbQukvqMm6atDIwvkDBo 1D3XrH2a0FuYFyU9MiNI0PYBODTiAkylDpCmn1dnXXNHW8kwoxI= =8YM1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/McgbbCr_MxLOj/CO7oHWLZ4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 19:07:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2EDCB9C43 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC1111FAA for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:59 -0800 Subject: Re: using "mount_smbfs" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: <26be0ffb-3612-95bb-3a18-11cbe0f4fa81@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:06:59 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:07:04 -0000 On 01/20/17 05:14, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am trying to use "mount_smbfs" to mount a Windows 10 share and copy > data to it. My user name on the windows machine has a "@" in it, ie. > "me@outlook.com". How do I use it with this command? I have a conventional user name (no embedded '@') and am trying to mount a Windows shared folder at boot by putting the password into a file (I will convert to encrypted password once it works). This post contains a working example from the command line: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2017-January/275810.html David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 20:08:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F47CBA61B for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59E6E1F96 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [2.247.244.59] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUfU8-0003rP-SC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:08:33 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id v0KK8WxW002135 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:08:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id v0KK8RrY002134 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:08:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:08:26 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stop charging laptop battery when full Message-ID: <20170120200826.GA2070@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170120135008.5168cc79@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20170120135008.5168cc79@riseup.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 2.247.244.59 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:08:36 -0000 El día Friday, January 20, 2017 a las 01:53:50PM -0500, Sergei Akhmatdinov escribió: > On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I can ask the current capacity (and other values) of the battery with: > > [snip] > > While charging, is there a way to stop the charging when > > hw.acpi.battery.life reached 100 to protect the (LI-ion) battery? > > Such functionality should be provided by your battery's internal circuitry. > Think about it, it wouldn't be safe for any consumer to buy a laptop which > doesn't switch to DC power when the battery is full. I'm not sure about this. Let's assume the power provided by the charger it withdrawn "somehow" from the battery and the laptop runs only on the power provided by the charger. The battery will now start to drain itself (due to its internal resistor value). When it will start to charge again, and how? And why all the hints say: Once fully charged, disconnect the laptop from charger? Will it lead to some endless charge/discharge cycle? I was asking for some method to disconnect the laptop completely from the charger, either internally or, for example, by some external device, receiving the signal via Wifi and cutting the charger from the outlet. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wo ist der antiimperialistische Schutzwall, wenn man ihn braucht? US-Panzertransport durch ex-DDR" "Where is the anti-imperialistic wall, if it's needed? Transport of US-tanks through the ex-GDR" https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/45282-us-panzertransporte-durch-ex-ddr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 20:19:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A952CBAA10 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3DDE18E0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id akHy1u00B2iF10301kHzM6; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:17:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0KKHvT0065740 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:17:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:17:57 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen X-X-Sender: marco@localhost Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Shutdown from WindowMaker when using Xdm Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:19:13 -0000 Hi, What is a good and clean way to shutdown the system from a windowmanager (in my case WindowMaker), and using xdm? I did add a menuitem containing "shutdown -p now", but then WM sometimes coredumps. So I get the impression that this method isn't the best way to do it. Just exiting the WM is possible, but then the system exits to the login screen, without the possibility of shutting down from there. So is there a clean way of shutting down from WM? Thanks and regards, Marco -- The Israelites were all waiting anxiously at the foot of the mountain, knowing that Moses had had a tough day negotiating with God over the Commandments. Finally a tired Moses came into sight. "I've got some good news and some bad news, folks," he said. "The good news is that I got Him down to ten. The bad news is that adultery's still in." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 20:34:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E906CB9063 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AEC143F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5047348AA3; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0KKYhKa046403; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0KKYhQr046400; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Warren Block cc: Markus Hoenicka , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > >> Turns out to be a case of not RTFM. I do not use a display manager. >> Instead, I run startxfce4 from the console after logging in. The XFCE docs >> say to use startxfce4 --with-ck-launch in this case: >> >> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced >> >> Things may work out of the box if you use a display manager. > > I do not use a display manager either, not worth the effort for me. Just > startx. > > My .xinitrc has this: > > # WB: map the Zap combination > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch At least with 10.3 packages, this has all been cleared up. I like and use xdm because my workstations and laptops have multiple accounts. My only issue was that xfce has a requirement of dbus-1.8.20. This makes installing firefox and thunderbird somewhat challenging and rules out pidgin. I have updated Firefox requirements in the past with not so good results to xfce. As I am 1,000 miles from my workstation, I will wait to give this a try. 11.0 sadly did not support the NIC on my laptop. All else went without issue just install necessary packages. Startx out of the box only installing xorg and xfce runs twm. WIFI on this (a 4-5 year old Dell Insprion has never been supported FBSDs 8-11). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 20:46:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCF6CB94C2 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FC4F1AA8 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DB32006F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:41:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs21.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CA920066 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:41:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from crow.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7421A20007 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:41:31 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: Shutdown from WindowMaker when using Xdm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Heikki Lindholm Message-ID: <9cb23f04-161d-90da-c1c0-7b863100292b@saunalahti.fi> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:41:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:46:59 -0000 20.1.2017, 22.17, Marco Beishuizen kirjoitti: > Hi, > > What is a good and clean way to shutdown the system from a windowmanager > (in my case WindowMaker), and using xdm? I did add a menuitem containing > "shutdown -p now", but then WM sometimes coredumps. So I get the > impression that this method isn't the best way to do it. Just exiting > the WM is possible, but then the system exits to the login screen, > without the possibility of shutting down from there. > > So is there a clean way of shutting down from WM? Cannot answer that, but just set up a GNUstep environment with WindowMaker myself. I used wdm instead of xdm and it has the option to shutdown and reboot, although you have to enable them from the config file. If exiting the wm always implies shutdown for you, maybe adding shutdown -p to your .xsession after the wm exits would work. -- Heikki Lindholm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 21:13:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D2CB9F89 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.xs4all.nl", Issuer "GlobalSign Domain Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6A711AC4 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan ([83.160.85.125]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id alDc1u0032iF10301lDd9l; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:13:37 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0KLDZ6X002050 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:13:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:13:35 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen X-X-Sender: marco@localhost Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: Heikki Lindholm cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shutdown from WindowMaker when using Xdm In-Reply-To: <9cb23f04-161d-90da-c1c0-7b863100292b@saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: References: <9cb23f04-161d-90da-c1c0-7b863100292b@saunalahti.fi> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:13:41 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, the wise Heikki Lindholm wrote: > Cannot answer that, but just set up a GNUstep environment with > WindowMaker myself. I used wdm instead of xdm and it has the option to > shutdown and reboot, although you have to enable them from the config > file. > > If exiting the wm always implies shutdown for you, maybe adding shutdown > -p to your .xsession after the wm exits would work. Hmm, didn't think of wdm. I'll give that a try. Thanks for the pointer. Regards, Marco -- Vini, vidi, vici. [I came, I saw, I conquered]. -- Gaius Julius Caesar From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 21:39:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508E8CBA805 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0510E1970 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id E0A5ECB8CA4; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:39:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:39:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38889.128.135.52.6.1484948357.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:39:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: stop charging laptop battery when full From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthias Apitz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170120135008.5168cc79@riseup.net> <20170120200826.GA2070@c720-r292778-amd64> In-Reply-To: <20170120200826.GA2070@c720-r292778-amd64> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:39:25 -0000 On Fri, January 20, 2017 2:08 pm, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, January 20, 2017 a las 01:53:50PM -0500, Sergei > Akhmatdinov escribió: > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 >> Matthias Apitz wrote: >> > I can ask the current capacity (and other values) of the battery with: >> > [snip] >> > While charging, is there a way to stop the charging when >> > hw.acpi.battery.life reached 100 to protect the (LI-ion) battery? >> Such functionality should be provided by your battery's internal circuitry. >> Think about it, it wouldn't be safe for any consumer to buy a laptop which >> doesn't switch to DC power when the battery is full. > > I'm not sure about this. Let's assume the power provided by the charger it withdrawn "somehow" from the battery and the laptop runs only on the power > provided by the charger. The battery will now start to drain itself (due to > its internal resistor value). When it will start to charge again, and how? This whole thing in laptops is done by rather trivial electronic circuits and switches (based on CMOS power FETs (with 0.01 - 0.001 ohm closed resistance). When laptop is connected to charger (providing appropriate voltage, internal laptop circuits are fed bu voltage from charger, and are disconnected from battery. Battery is being charged or trickle charged, and after it is full, charging stops. When you disconnect charger, only then internal switches connect battery to feed internal laptop circuits. It is all quite trivial thing that is taken care of on rather modern electronics level. I do not intend to offend you, but your consideration is on a stone age level compared to what is trivially and routinely done in laptops during last almost two decades. So, I would suggest to just trust electronics engineers and act as dumb person when using laptop: plug it into AC when you have that, or use it on battery when there is no AC around. Laptop designers do expect laptop user act exactly as dumb person. Whatever needs to be done for keeping battery ready for use without abusing it is taken care of by laptop internal circuits. I hope, this helps. Valeri > > And why all the hints say: Once fully charged, disconnect the laptop from charger? > > Will it lead to some endless charge/discharge cycle? > > I was asking for some method to disconnect the laptop completely from the charger, either internally or, for example, by some external device, receiving the signal via Wifi and cutting the charger from the outlet. > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 > "Wo ist der antiimperialistische Schutzwall, wenn man ihn braucht? US-Panzertransport durch ex-DDR" > "Where is the anti-imperialistic wall, if it's needed? Transport of US-tanks through the ex-GDR" > https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/45282-us-panzertransporte-durch-ex-ddr/ _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 21:46:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EDFCBAB59 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spirals@eircom.net) Received: from mta05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mta05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01D8B1F9D for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spirals@eircom.net) Received: (qmail 25934 messnum 7340077 invoked from network[213.94.190.15/avas03.vendorsvc.cra.dublin.eircom.net]); 20 Jan 2017 21:39:38 -0000 Received: from avas03.vendorsvc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (HELO avas03) (213.94.190.15) by mta05.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 25934) with SMTP; 20 Jan 2017 21:39:38 -0000 Received: from [172.30.1.11] ([86.40.145.112]) by Cloudmark Gateway with SMTP id UguIcAOP7rpNSUguIcWZvV; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:39:38 +0000 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=XrKKARN9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=sEdY1Zkko/QDSbtxVtqQqQ==:117 a=sEdY1Zkko/QDSbtxVtqQqQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=jOeQ0ZHNUWHCKvlD0AoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: spirals Subject: BSD C Compiler to recompile many lines of K&R Whitebook C. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:40:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLuuT7z9kboxwOMF2nM/o7P4c3dpYFphlLvZaiXm6m8OOd0xoEHiG6sc3oPlSqgxVoL9gvo5pJhAqioAcjLb0eOkivR4rHz67X4ZZYlELHTZQ/oFsEs7 ghpok/rYApIN5PScTZ90Lc9oh+FJfFWMHFHzo2og3Hue3byqiPrjfOc06OuH9/CDw7mFtn084/Trxg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:46:22 -0000 Hi All, I am a newcomer to your list, with a rather unusual question, and this is definitely not a windup folks. How far back in BSD releases would I need to get (the source code to build) a C compiler that will accept "bog standard" K&R Whitebook C (1st ed), rather than throwing the thousands of warnings and error messages the current gcc on Linux 7 (Wheezy) is doing. I ask this as I understand from reading the documents the FreeBSD compiler is based on gcc. I have not yet installed FreeBSD, but asking this question as part of a process of evaluating evaluating it, based on this specific requirement to compile K&R C. The K&R C consists of many lines of code known to compile clean and run OK when it was originally written. Thanks in advance for your time to read this, and any helpful advice provided. have a great day, OldBlueBear. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 21:47:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86705CBAC93 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7714A120F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:47:53 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without password To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3a018208-2ad4-1b1d-302d-e5ab4f1f2fad@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <682b235c-1858-aa18-95d9-b7d75eab38f8@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:47:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3a018208-2ad4-1b1d-302d-e5ab4f1f2fad@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:55 -0000 On 01/19/17 20:35, David Christensen wrote: > I am attempting to mount a Microsoft Windows shared folder > ... into my home directory ... at boot, without having to enter my > password. I figured it out: 1. Configuration file for mount_smbfs -N option must be /etc/nsmb.conf: a. /usr/home/dpchrist/.nsmbrc does not work. b. /usr/local/etc/nsmb.conf does not work. c. /root/.nsmbrc works when mount_smbfs is invoked from the command line, but fails at boot. 2. The (SMB) user name and host name in /etc/nsmb.conf must be upper case (my workgroup name was already upper case). 3. For better security, I adjusted permissions of /etc/nsmb.conf and encrypted my (SMB) password using smbutil(1). A console session follows. David toor@freebsd:/root # vim /etc/fstab //dpchrist@cd2533/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data smbfs rw,-N 0 0 toor@freebsd:/root # touch /etc/nsmb.conf toor@freebsd:/root # chmod 0600 /etc/nsmb.conf toor@freebsd:/root # smbutil crypt >> /etc/nsmb.conf Password: toor@freebsd:/root # vim /etc/nsmb.conf [default] workgroup=WORKGROUP [CD2533:DPCHRIST] password=$$1 toor@freebsd:/root # ls -l /etc/nsmb.conf -rw------- 1 root wheel 83 Jan 20 13:33 /etc/nsmb.conf toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep smbfs toor@freebsd:/root # mount /usr/home/dpchrist/.data toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep smbfs //DPCHRIST@CD2533/DATA on /usr/home/dpchrist/.data (smbfs) toor@freebsd:/root # shutdown -r now toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep smbfs //DPCHRIST@CD2533/DATA on /usr/home/dpchrist/.data (smbfs) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 22:42:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525AACB9E56 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BFCE1058 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sakhmatd@riseup.net) Received: from piha.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D65E1A05C0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:42:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1484952144; bh=9o+eQkpf0JDidKwt/jf78NME8LFTpEuelv9S3wz7xYI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=BUgf8fTZQoUPaajm3CcmoYHDaFY3sFliVST21nNrIi1vfY5mGuxMLBezz+wgAk5Bp Zy1grauC0pjg5MrZt36h/uUMFqWAW6FfO/TomJMe5yCOvmouTp6weMEhPvIhtAPAOc Pm5c/6Yu9iipWrR41xGsBChz2qBf6Xsg9O5PqBrU= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: sakhmatd) with ESMTPSA id A7EA71C236E Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:42:21 -0500 From: Sergei Akhmatdinov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD C Compiler to recompile many lines of K&R Whitebook C. Message-ID: <20170120174221.55bcff60@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/QxaReVH_R5qkw=d_kB7SSUJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:42:25 -0000 --Sig_/QxaReVH_R5qkw=d_kB7SSUJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:40:29 +0000 spirals wrote: > Hi All, I am a newcomer to your list, with a rather unusual question,=20 > and this is definitely not a windup folks. Maybe more of a freebsd-hackers question here, but here will do. :) > How far back in BSD releases would I need to get (the source code to=20 > build) a C compiler that will accept "bog standard" K&R Whitebook C=20 > (1st ed), rather than throwing the thousands of warnings and error=20 > messages the current gcc on Linux 7 (Wheezy) is doing. You may wish to try compiling with -traditional or -c89, much of pre-ANSI K= &R should be compatible. Out of curiosity, is there a specific reason you want to compile pre-ANSI K= &R? Not to say there wouldn't be any, just curious myself. K&R 2nd ed was rewri= tten for ANSI. > I ask this as I understand from reading the documents the FreeBSD=20 > compiler is based on gcc. FreeBSD uses clang + llvm. Since gcc is licensed under GPL, clang doesn't reuse any gcc code. > I have not yet installed FreeBSD, but asking this question as part of a=20 > process of evaluating evaluating it, based on this specific requirement=20 > to compile K&R C. >=20 > The K&R C consists of many lines of code known to compile clean and run=20 > OK when it was originally written. Since the original K&R was written, ANSI was created to avoid the assembly language problem of having a million different standards. If your goal is to learn C, go for the ANSI-fied version of K&R. Cheers, --=20 Sergei Akhmatdinov My GPG public key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys AD800D99 --Sig_/QxaReVH_R5qkw=d_kB7SSUJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEFByDSlcPK9lAgiNNxKRHP62ADZkFAliCkk0ACgkQxKRHP62A DZksQg//T/goGKeNRuc6txmVZLONcXrQQN/oXG0mlSss+uGQjUiBqmcLotrmezR2 TTlDuiRr5xaAdEWKZQXmH5IjUzChTm4bdSjsQ2ih6xUKRqEKE6FHvi9rMnkyvUdF d/AicGMtg3GC0FVWsgVjxCUZyPaJHpeZ5P7QRkIem5AuXna7bzue/OfBxgThZutG 3texEOts/AG/vDO0IyRU05Iysq9b03j80SfqyR5TkaaPzcYuGdBc9VlOW7W+kYBM fiE2BlhVLdNRp4lSyb0zdvM2BQLB17An/COAydUio+em/y2KNCrwccfaad6E5Xjs KbwQUQck8Q7AHWzDS18PNJuHUTMAm6XhM7C3oUETBp9X9xETi4hBT0W+Xmsfhu0l Qm3khtXmTVmiEjlL5B890Pn/AhzWk7cwubQ1n/zKmehr3qn0GoCl2Pqg5UCQ9a41 8LxERSoQOBvcOEZ0b2FEdyycIKirTgoveoEXqzU0w09SP517R5IzJgkg60h/vKEx nJuNy0155BBiwV9GWokL7Y7ru/bRvGErFeiFzHxjypslKBqd1T768QKDg1zS0/oo OT8+2e8qVGy7JeVePEM7nHUOl4H37mT0seOcE/Kla9PxdMfUHxq0Qhwl5gACCKaW 5QNe+I6uzevNOa2cp/MemqtWPigbJq1YxjqxT3vEycVlWVPriyw= =lGpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/QxaReVH_R5qkw=d_kB7SSUJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 23:18:20 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73B9CBA69A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BD251F8B for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=tQXcz3KTeBkWFeKud9EtTZcxvupe0Xjc5enKZekNTV3BfiD2+DdHC1iU7l3IMiXizA zp4tI2UUujaE187CTFHocqoIPVbx+UDmuu9tq/Oaqt9a+GoCCqUYzWu52GFEQgn3LZ0s +zBh6RggZTN+Yh+8m2Nj4IBSWXsuvb6KsRTr/8kbFTmK8ida1SYsz+GdcguYIHVoYrwz orDDPlL6fdyg6cdHvzCNdUCU1x3LS8zr+GihJK01QgwQpV52ATIveUYaOw+7ku8STZG/ 7dUgq0ovfthUAQlQ1vZf20rnFn6CmTHI6gS1L2SlNyBUaizVq49a5E5LlqzuC2/fTZdU QoEQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1484954296; x=1485559096; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=Uuvgl+2hyMH lKgf5x7ZsU7H6Put0AB/CNGWDXV9s6fo=; b=E+VunaXFQTYma8FkdoQfCKjdfG5 dSa+shlKy+LtPoMZk/WCu4Xs/Op7XENj+zNSFsJi7Yztai9/B8T912E20/PJUsoI zH3Nj/Mb4ah4dKoypCYT6ICNmgTgKGH4m/36FBCDsRI9WHiys2QL+ZXjJ0cIQUhM iX3wz76CAAGimMs21AibstAa1tcj8arx2WG8956GeSuU8PFeYjEDOB1PnER+iZUG X/x7W+yPuy02Q6GGs/RZAVnS4crGW3CYSXbEbUqDBXTiQxr21lMvb47eh3HdbKV5 TLmyEvq0aLFV9mYeZI24WkJIpiCQRZCng1BV39Uwx4CFng13SNMt8qtmFKg== Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1246048 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:18:16 +0000 Subject: Re: stop charging laptop battery when full To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20170120171125.GA3965@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170120135008.5168cc79@riseup.net> <20170120200826.GA2070@c720-r292778-amd64> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:18:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170120200826.GA2070@c720-r292778-amd64> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050602030803080000060901" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:18:20 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050602030803080000060901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/20/17 3:08 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Friday, January 20, 2017 a las 01:53:50PM -0500, Sergei Akh= matdinov escribi=C3=B3: >=20 >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 18:11:25 +0100 >> Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> I can ask the current capacity (and other values) of the battery with= : >>> [snip] >>> While charging, is there a way to stop the charging when >>> hw.acpi.battery.life reached 100 to protect the (LI-ion) battery? >> >> Such functionality should be provided by your battery's internal circu= itry. >> Think about it, it wouldn't be safe for any consumer to buy a laptop w= hich >> doesn't switch to DC power when the battery is full. >=20 > I'm not sure about this. Let's assume the power provided by the charger= > it withdrawn "somehow" from the battery and the laptop runs only on the= power > provided by the charger. The battery will now start to drain itself (du= e to > its internal resistor value). When it will start to charge again, and > how? The somehow would be the rather sophisticated charging circuit found in any recent laptop that was properly designed. Yes, the battery will slowly drain. It will start to charge again when it hits whatever threshold the charging circuit considers appropriate, which hopefully is enough below the threshold used to stop charging to provide enough hysteresis to avoid thrashing too much. All of those values chosen by engineers beaten about the head by marketing types who want to claim maximal battery life, and management types who want to make sure the battery lasts through at least the warranty period. True, vaguely related story: I was nearly driven crazy one night by my iPhone plugged into an external battery pack right beside my bed. The "I've been plugged into power" noise is one of the few that is not suppressed by the Do Not Disturb feature. So I went to sleep while it was happily charging. When the phone was fully charged, it stopped charging and the current draw dropped below the battery pack's threshold for "I'm not really being used and supplying a trickle will drain my battery, so I'll mostly shut off output." At that point the phone, convinced it was no longer plugged into power, ran on its battery until it dropped below the appropriate threshold and started charging again, at which point the external pack turned on output again and the phone bleedled in my ear. That kept going all night, never waking me up quite enough to deal with it...I pieced it together the next morning. >=20 > And why all the hints say: Once fully charged, disconnect the laptop > from charger? I sincerely doubt that all the hints say this, merely a great number of them. Reasons for this I can think of include: 1) Hints from people who don't understand how sophisticated charging circuits have become, and 2) Hints from people who don't realize that Ni-Cad and Li-Ion batteries are very, very different, and 3) Hints from people who understand what the charging tradeoffs are and wish to do something different that what the engineers of the charging circuit ended up doing, and 4) Hints from people who are generalizing the need to fully discharge periodically on some devices if you wish to re-calibrate the battery monitoring. In many cases I suspect it's hard to tell where the advice is coming from. Good luck sorting them out. >=20 > Will it lead to some endless charge/discharge cycle? More or less. But why the concern? >=20 > I was asking for some method to disconnect the laptop completely from > the charger, either internally or, for example, by some external device= , > receiving the signal via Wifi and cutting the charger from the outlet. I suspect that that would be a fun project for a Raspberry Pi hooked up to a relay. Actually, if you're going to go to that extent, you might want to first have a good go at analyzing the current/voltage across your charging cable, which would go far in determining what is really happening with your laptop's charging--much more likely to be accurate than speculation by random people like me on this list. :-) BTW, the more often, and the deeper you discharge your Li-Ion battery, the sooner it will wear out. So disconnecting the charger every time you hit full charge and then discharging the battery most or all the way will shorten the battery's life. See http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_b= atteries for some actual numbers, followed by much argumentation in the comments as to what it all really means. Now, what would be really cool would be to build your little Raspberry Pi & relay box to disconnect the charger at a lower than maximum voltage so as to maximize battery lifetime, rather than maximizing the runtime of a "full" charge. 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Message-ID: <0064d7a1-9d91-1f02-c24a-4445381fe112@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:42:31 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:42:34 -0000 On 01/20/2017 04:00 AM, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without > password (David Christensen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:35:42 -0800 > From: David Christensen > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without > password > Message-ID: <3a018208-2ad4-1b1d-302d-e5ab4f1f2fad@holgerdanske.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > freebsd-questions: > > I have a computer: > > toor@freebsd:/root # freebsd-version > 11.0-RELEASE-p7 > > toor@freebsd:/root # uname -a > FreeBSD freebsd 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu > Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 > root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > I am attempting to mount a Microsoft Windows shared folder > (//dc8ct591/data) into my home directory > (freebsd:/usr/home/dpchrist/.data) at boot, without having to enter my > password. > > > Using Xfce and Thunar, I can browse the network, see the shared folder, > enter my credentials, and access files within the share. > > > After RTFM and STFW, this is my current attempt: > > toor@freebsd:/root # ll /etc/fstab > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 230 Jan 19 19:41 /etc/fstab > > toor@freebsd:/root # grep dc8ct591 /etc/fstab > //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data smbfs rw,-N 0 0 > > toor@freebsd:/root # ll /etc/nsmb.conf > -rw------- 1 root wheel uarch 85 Jan 19 19:42 /etc/nsmb.conf > > toor@freebsd:/root # cat /etc/nsmb.conf > [default] > workgroup=WORKGROUP > [dc8ct591:dpchrist] > password= > > > If I run 'mount' with the -d option, I can see the system call to > 'mount_smbfs': > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount -d /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > exec: mount_smbfs -o rw -N //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > > > If I then run 'mount_smbfs' without the -N option and enter the password > for dpchrist@dc8ct591, it works: > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount_smbfs -o rw //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data > /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > Password: > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep -i dc8ct591 > //DPCHRIST@DC8CT591/DATA on /usr/home/dpchrist/.data (smbfs) > > > But if run 'mount', or 'mount_smbfs' manually with the -N option, it fails: > > toor@freebsd:/root # umount /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount | grep -i dc8ct591 > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > toor@freebsd:/root # mount_smbfs -o rw -N //dpchrist@dc8ct591/data > /usr/home/dpchrist/.data > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > > I get the same result for shared folders on Samba 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u11 on > Debian 7 (Wheezy) and on Windows XP SP2. > > > I don't know how to get more information about the "Authentication > error" encountered by mount_smbfs (no --verbose or --debug option, and > doesn't seem to write into any file in /var/log). > > > Any suggestions? > > > David > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ------------------------------ > > End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 659, Issue 7 > ************************************************* -N Do not ask for a password. At run time, mount_smbfs reads the ~/.nsmbrc file for additional configuration parameters and a password. If no password is found, mount_smbfs prompts for it. Looks like mount_smbfs is expecting the file to be named '.nsmbrc', not simply 'nsmbrc.' So it's not finding the file where the password is stored. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 03:48:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679D3CBAA92 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from non.euc.geo.1854@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x233.google.com (mail-pf0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35A5618B2 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from non.euc.geo.1854@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x233.google.com with SMTP id 189so26948131pfu.3 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:48:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:disposition-notification-to :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8tefhHg+7vBzALAT9HjMOLa5AQ4QgIPP658dC1Su/58=; b=Uex3+yKfMGJdHD68W4qKLZHryySaZyHaytl5jHw3gC0KO/Ha6qi2a+d3gYtKrM5YVI XIIrqjxJ9x4//9JxAHO7k3FuEuDvT+XsAhy2nQh0PDZYiT69p2/M1WIa4gENMo4v241f 2C6oQDZ1vnZduwZET98gN9qyoSO3Kjdpdae+aa4KIvxhVC9lle50vbcJhjf7UpuKZMsd 0x1r4PnI6SVUVgxTnRJofXC2Lq6ZCbwhZKEh+WjXKYABnXF7hvtraksiUcAqxr2T1eqO DSWQPSJUsaviokpKMNc+3JwGXuQhVS8lH2EWmQeOVjyE++D73tzm8KjXbBj8lBcBq+QB vDSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id :disposition-notification-to:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8tefhHg+7vBzALAT9HjMOLa5AQ4QgIPP658dC1Su/58=; b=lgr6n/J5h4nbTHdX6r3lOp/04E6bHYldwJLMKmqA5mMJ+S1QEKckNdnsLuYpBx2HKv QIhNJE87fRHsgi8E1susMLm1nLfV+66YEeUbpkVf4/XbcuWSMWPWohFkdFgGb3/1n11n GFq+DyuziCHf9ksf6PeceU1XY9oxMHQAQZeuC20aEa8WLsU6oQCWgD+Opg9ZBTRBcYxU c6JRsioBZhBmjkxNftKjDyRG9jf0sz6YV65j/iuZptrUElIGMq0gbW546cW4OiF0DtFi +0DYW7z5regRnzP7w6i7IJwCeTlJwUoz7OvBrIRrI3TSSFekF0f5pAclmjtXgxhjL8V6 o8HQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKsG1BZkK7e5WWx/pIMaYFUY6broTR80/ZTsQA0q/CJabmJDNyJXJjvAU7TJq0VJQ== X-Received: by 10.98.88.133 with SMTP id m127mr20630861pfb.155.1484970516692; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (96-41-72-194.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com. [96.41.72.194]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm19905796pfe.84.2017.01.20.19.48.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without password To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "J.B." Message-ID: <75575396-a2b5-a2b6-9e32-a104904a53c3@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:48:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:48:37 -0000 On 01/20/2017 04:00 AM, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > FreeBSD 11.0 and mounting SMB shared folder at boot without > password (David Christensen) I didn't read far enough. The method (and file) you're using appears to be a valid option: # smbfs lookups configuration files in next order: # 1. ~/.nsmbrc # 2. /etc/nsmb.conf - if this file found it will # override values with same keys from user files. Have you tried using ~/.nsmbrc instead? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 05:35:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF69CBABA2 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3060F12A0 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:37:01 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758D93CC3F; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:35:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v0L5ZBkN002064; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:35:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:35:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shutdown from WindowMaker when using Xdm Message-Id: <20170121063511.4efe3b77.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with C74FA69E1E9 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2448 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:35:22 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:17:57 +0100 (CET), Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Hi, > > What is a good and clean way to shutdown the system from a windowmanager > (in my case WindowMaker), and using xdm? I did add a menuitem containing > "shutdown -p now", but then WM sometimes coredumps. I did the same and connected it to a key combination for covenience (Ctrl+Alt+Moon on Sun USB type 7 keyboard), and the remaining visible shutdown messages never indicated a coredump for me (and there is no .core file). > So I get the > impression that this method isn't the best way to do it. Basically there is no problem with this method, simply because it is the _normal_ method. Maybe you can exchange the parameter "now" for a small time value, so programs have time to perform TERM before they get KILL. Actually, my menu item (menu "Functions", item "System shutdown") calls this command: xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" Maybe that adds the "little time" that is needed instead of calling the shutdown program directly? In any case, you can examine a possibly remaining core file to find out what _really_ happened instead of guessing. ;-) > Just exiting the > WM is possible, but then the system exits to the login screen, without the > possibility of shutting down from there. You can put an xlogout-based button on xdm's login screen (using the same configuration file that puts a xconsole there) which performs the "shutdown -p now" action. > So is there a clean way of shutting down from WM? What you're doing _is_ a clean way. I'd recommend examining why the core dump occurs. As I said, I'm doing this for years (probably decades) and never saw such kind of problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 07:35:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54A2CBA54C for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90C011026 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1HeHSrWW+bSqqs9WHAANgt/L2B9Z4gTpkFQvo6iXFpY=; b=TJwrQP5TH3AOFmHR7gAEr0o4Ns WrObbkpycMYND+J3JWLVREFDYNa2fo+MB0JZg4KEREhdfZhewnRfycHZOSipffenZQfEXrH12WnuM OMGcF2uxosYXHn4HhhDYYxNkv869eaRwFRsBDVctpkynt+dO9KZkN/O2uByewK6THczY=; Received: from subs08-103-10-67-162.three.co.id ([103.10.67.162]:4285 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cUpmq-000L9j-JV; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:08:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:08:15 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: spirals Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD C Compiler to recompile many lines of K&R Whitebook C. Message-ID: <20170121150815.20319576@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Authenticated-Sender: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:35:33 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:40:29 +0000 spirals wrote: > Hi All, I am a newcomer to your list, with a rather unusual question, > and this is definitely not a windup folks. > > How far back in BSD releases would I need to get (the source code to > build) a C compiler that will accept "bog standard" K&R Whitebook C > (1st ed), rather than throwing the thousands of warnings and error > messages the current gcc on Linux 7 (Wheezy) is doing. > > I ask this as I understand from reading the documents the FreeBSD > compiler is based on gcc. > > I have not yet installed FreeBSD, but asking this question as part of > a process of evaluating evaluating it, based on this specific > requirement to compile K&R C. > > The K&R C consists of many lines of code known to compile clean and > run OK when it was originally written. this could have worked those days as the compiler might was written by the same people as the program. Any way, I ran recently in a K&R source which compiled and worked as expected on FreeBSD 10 and 12. The warnings have been nearly endless. As the source was just a few hundred lines, I do not know how relevant this is. Good luck! Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 08:54:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068EBCB7BE5 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) Received: from server.whoishostingthismail.com (server.whoishostingthismail.com [104.236.126.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC8F7175B for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=whoishostingthismail.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:From:To:Date:Sender:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vVEepgiOVcVBZfl8zTxWrrr+4mIz6nxoVFjaC6Zw5nc=; b=k4lL2p0U4wJoIi4ulYr2oHRPq FU+kVfgNi2V2lVlnSP2CV2CXZYNyhOilZ20C0aknvpeUEdi6QfUbx5NQM+RL8G9lHuZA49hipyn9c HUaeQxF4u+rDI2ZQkStv/BMEzv3kpzpfJ6umIdHcVzc34f201bCqnA2dSH/bsL66MybTjyT0MFPR/ 6KvqL0CFD6EDrrZorYSeC8AopjV7P3I9aUXO/g4h1BQNlc8WxfhsTgE42Y3q6QRsyNQlOm05xSS6B F/cEvakGQA5raLzLUp8akrsCMTHyC2ym1KJvcghAvDJYnEr8gSeSZHcq9t5+e/Sbzi1FMv6gVleCb OXDeTq7eg==; Received: from ec2-54-196-36-156.compute-1.amazonaws.com ([54.196.36.156]:46787 helo=whoishostingthismail.com) by server.whoishostingthismail.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cUrRH-00047m-AR for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:54:23 +0000 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:54:23 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Delgado Reply-To: Mike Delgado Subject: One of your pages has a broken link Message-ID: <5807875.or_mail@whoishostingthismail.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.whoishostingthismail.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - whoishostingthismail.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.whoishostingthismail.com: authenticated_id: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server.whoishostingthismail.com: mike.delgado@whoishostingthismail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:54:35 -0000 Hi, I was on your page - http://nsa.kpu-m.ac.jp/gijutu/python/man-bsd-ja/ports/math.html, when I noticed that one of the resources you mentioned isn't online. Here is the dead page - http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/packages/netcdf/, 'Main Web Site'. I found it whilst doing some research for our ultimate guide to NetCDF which has just been published and might make a good replacement if you are updating the page. Here's the link - http://wiht.link/NetCDF-resources. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Best, MikeDon't want emails from us anymore? Reply to this email with the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the subject line. WhoIsHostingThis, BM Box 3667, Old Gloucester Street London, WC1N 3XX, United Kingdom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 21:51:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACBEC6D2C8 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward5j.cmail.yandex.net (forward5j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 019361BCA for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (smtp3p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:8]) by forward5j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5298020B59 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:51:48 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 37E441320005 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:51:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ae3fnGHbSx-pkx4duAa; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:51:46 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1485035507; bh=O7GlNImRP3YYOJAynvAFhoFmiE62mG74ZaJHrbY2Kwc=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date; b=U5DmXGH7tDlpqvvloAG9n/dX3CJMzjusKYsZf48LKXtwTZU9EqPUdUqtfW5xRDc19 a9sIthv275VjG+204AswcOaUAq3Fr2T/xAOlbkerjg4ED3bgbjqt61YSn4oldJOeSp uvGpNM714HarIWQAWkFqFeClVPgVt0OhRIYTmyEo= Authentication-Results: smtp3p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Message-ID: <1485035504.85963.6.camel@yandex.com> Subject: freebsd-update fetch From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:51:44 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:51:53 -0000 Hi! My system is FreeBSD 11.0_RELEASE-p7 (amd64). I have today (the third time in 3 weeks) when I run freebsd-update fetch: The following files will be updated as part of updating to FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p7: /usr/share/man/mandoc.db /usr/share/openssl/man/mandoc.db Is this security update or something is wrong on my system? Usually is some email about update. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 22:27:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD2EC6DF91 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5590B83A for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C4F82844 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/6C4F82844; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: freebsd-update fetch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1485035504.85963.6.camel@yandex.com> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <4a020ce7-16c0-5c0e-17e9-51632fb6edd2@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:27:32 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1485035504.85963.6.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KBBFLGv3BbQV2c4TK5JOa9mDgMCEFK05U" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:27:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KBBFLGv3BbQV2c4TK5JOa9mDgMCEFK05U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8v8dtuGvldTQiKPS7v0qwvN7BvgXJ6nCC"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4a020ce7-16c0-5c0e-17e9-51632fb6edd2@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-update fetch References: <1485035504.85963.6.camel@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: <1485035504.85963.6.camel@yandex.com> --8v8dtuGvldTQiKPS7v0qwvN7BvgXJ6nCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/01/2017 21:51, Stari Karp wrote: > My system is FreeBSD 11.0_RELEASE-p7 (amd64). > I have today (the third time in 3 weeks) when I run freebsd-update > fetch: > The following files will be updated as part of updating to FreeBSD > 11.0-RELEASE-p7: >=20 > /usr/share/man/mandoc.db > /usr/share/openssl/man/mandoc.db >=20 > Is this security update or something is wrong on my system? Usually is > some email about update. No -- this is a bug in freebsd-update(8). The mandoc.db files are supplied as part of the base system install, but it seems freebsd-update is not managing to update them correctly. This is pretty harmless though -- the mandoc.db files are used by apropos(1) to show a summary of the man pages in those sections. All it means is that the database of manpages may be slightly out of date. I think you may be able to simply move aside the existing mandoc.db files, and then run 'freebsd-update fetch install' to replace them with pristine copies of the latest versions. I haven't tried that though. 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Jails is out of date Message-ID: <20170121223131.GS8460@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <58803AA1.4070603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58803AA1.4070603@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrLIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrevxsDnCYMNbbYtTZ7pYLV5+3cRi cf30JHYHZo8Zn+azeOycdZc9gCmKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK+PwjwcsBf8ZK7avW8bUwHiEsYuR k0NCwETi06QvLF2MXBxCAm1MEl9XnWaGcDYySqy4vRoqc5VJ4vbfS2wgLSwCqhIbP5xjB7HZ BFQkGrovM4PYIkD25i1P2UAamAUaGSW+fbnOBJIQFjCXuHZ3KpjNK2AssWraZhYQW0hAQ+Jg 01VGiLigxMmZT8DizAJaEjf+vQSq5wCypSWW/+MACXMKaEpMP9sONkZUQFmiYcYD5gmMArOQ dM9C0j0LoXsBI/MqRtmU3Crd3MTMnOLUZN3i5MS8vNQiXVO93MwSvdSU0k2MoJBld1HawTjx n9chRgEORiUe3gN7myOEWBPLiitzDzFKcjApifLu/tgQIcSXlJ9SmZFYnBFfVJqTWnyIUYKD WUmEd9Z9oHLelMTKqtSifJiUNAeLkjivuEZjhJBAemJJanZqakFqEUxWhoNDSYJX9wFQo2BR anpqRVpmTglCmomDE2Q4D9BwMZAa3uKCxNzizHSI/ClGXY5Tny68ZBJiycvPS5UCWgNSJABS lFGaBzcHlGoksvfXvGIUB3pLmNcKpIoHmKbgJr0CWsIEtERWAmxJSSJCSqqBcd7e+VPcN8/O PnHspmz7rG7OiONOzZrTO43blq9turZ59X3rJ7LHjNany9u7WhuvmZ6rpS8jWL+V++2KOVZR Io4sDU8Sua6e2xC7Q8plZkL1p2DVgFW22X9PTPhmt2qN+uq3e54v/HPbx6AuwzCv5PKVlkX3 1C9qhSY47hV7fmtCD5fA4Y8C5UosxRmJhlrMRcWJACuTwSwQAwAA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:36:47 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:03:45PM +0800, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > I hope someone will work on this to make it happen. > > Ya I know, patches are welcome. Not just patches but entries in the bug tracker as well: https://bugs.freebsd.org/ -Ben