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Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 10:03:44 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?SVNISUlAGyRCOS1FZxsoQg==?= To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20180404100344.7a724810fa4d53ddd5c270fe@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20180404025147.1dc6579bc5f4490ececc07de@gmail.com> References: <20180404025147.1dc6579bc5f4490ececc07de@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96199] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RmlyZWZveC01OTsgGyRCJWElSyVlITxGfEtcOGwbKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCMj0kSzw6R1QkOSRrGyhC?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 01:03:48 -0000 HIROSIMAの石井と申します。 On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 02:51:47 +0900 20180404025147.1dc6579bc5f4490ececc07de@gmail.com : skyblue wrote: > 悸村です。 > > "NetBSD での Firefox 日本語設定メモ 10.0.2版" > https://togetter.com/li/263272 > 概要1: about:config から general.useragent.locale > を ja に変更する。 > 概要2: Tools -> Add-ons -> Languages を確認。 > 概要3: Edit -> Preferances -> Language, Font 確認。 > > 59から、日本語表示されなくなりました。59.0.{1|2}でも同様 > です。 facebook の FreeBSD研究部 https://www.facebook.com/groups/freebsd.labo.japan/ に内藤さんが対策を書かれています。 ISHII@広島 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Wed Apr 4 06:34:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69118F94899 for ; 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Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:34:41 -0700 (PDT) From: bluesky X-Google-Original-From: bluesky Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:34:38 +0900 To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20180404153438.9dd46efb9407bc7ca03379e3@iching.info> In-Reply-To: <20180404100344.7a724810fa4d53ddd5c270fe@gmail.com> References: <20180404025147.1dc6579bc5f4490ececc07de@gmail.com> <20180404100344.7a724810fa4d53ddd5c270fe@gmail.com> Organization: si:siba X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-ufs-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96200] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RmlyZWZveC01OTsgGyRCJWElSyVlITxGfEtcOGwbKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCMj0kSzw6R1QkOSRrGyhC?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 06:34:43 -0000 (直メールを頂いた) 北山様 石井様 悸村です。 教えて頂いた方法で FreeBSD-11.1 の、 Firefox-59.0.2 のメニューバーを日本語化で きたのでご報告します。 about:config に入る。 1. intl.locale.requested を新規作成し ja と設定する。 2. general.useragent.locale をリセットする。(空欄になる) 同じ症状が出ていた SolydX-8 の Firefox も同様に日本語化が可能でした。 firefox-esr や waterfox に関しては、一応動作を確認したのですが、直接関係ない話 題なので、記載を省略します。 -- 悸村成一 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Wed Apr 4 13:57:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6959F90EC5 for ; 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Connected to hoge.dyndns-wiki.com. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE = IDLE AUTH=3DPLAIN AUTH=3DLOGIN] Dovecot ready. bye bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. bye bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. bye * BYE Too many invalid IMAP commands. Connection closed by foreign host. Mac:~ ccl$ telnet hoge.dyndns-wiki.com 25 Trying 219.165.236.94... telnet: connect to address 219.165.236.94: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Mac:~ ccommail$=20 = =E3=82=82=E3=81=A1=E3=82=8D=E3=82=93=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=82=B5=E3= =83=BC=E3=83=90=E3=81=A8=E5=90=8C=E3=81=98=E5=86=85=E9=83=A8=E3=83=8D=E3=83= =83=E3=83=88=EF=BC=88NAT=E3=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=BF=E3=81=AE=E5=86=85=E5=81= =B4=EF=BC=89=E3=81=AB=E7=BD=AE=E3=81=84=E3=81=9F=E7=AB=AF=E6=9C=AB=E3=81=8B= =E3=82=89=E3=82=84=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A8=E5=95=8F=E9=A1=8C=E3=81=AA=E3=81=8F=E4= =BB=A5=E4=B8=8B=E3=81=AE=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AB=E6=8E=A5=E7=B6=9A=E3=81= =A7=E3=81=8D=E3=81=BE=E3=81=97=E3=81=9F Mac:~ ccommail$ telnet 192.168.1.31 143 Trying 192.168.1.31... Connected to 192.168.1.31. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE = IDLE AUTH=3DPLAIN AUTH=3DLOGIN] Dovecot ready. bye bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. bye bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. bye * BYE Too many invalid IMAP commands. Connection closed by foreign host. Mac:~ ccommail$ telnet 192.168.1.31 25 Trying 192.168.1.31... Connected to 192.168.1.31. 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=E3=82=92=E8=A8=AD=E5=AE=9A=E3=81=97=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=99=E3= =81=8C=E3=80=81=E3=82=A4=E3=83=B3=E3=82=BF=E3=83=BC=E3=83=8D=E3=83=83=E3=83= =88=E5=81=B4=E3=81=8B=E3=82=89=E5=86=85=E9=83=A8(192.168.1.0/24)=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=82=B5=E3=83=BC=E3=83=90(192.168.1.31) >> )%E3%81%AE%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B5%E3%8= 3%BC%E3%83%90(192.168.1.31)>=E3=81=ABtelnet >> =E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A8 >> = =E4=BB=A5=E4=B8=8B=E3=81=AE=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AB=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8Aim= ap=E3=81=AF=E9=80=9A=E3=82=8B=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=99=E3=81=8C,smpt=E3=81= =8C=E6=8B=92=E7=B5=B6=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 >>=20 >> Mac:~ ccommail$ telnet hoge.dyndns-wiki.com 143 >> Trying 219.165.236.94... >> Connected to hoge.dyndns-wiki.com. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE = IDLE >> AUTH=3DPLAIN AUTH=3DLOGIN] Dovecot ready. >> bye >> bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. >> bye >> bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. >> bye >> * BYE Too many invalid IMAP commands. >> Connection closed by foreign host. >> Mac:~ ccl$ telnet hoge.dyndns-wiki.com 25 >> Trying 219.165.236.94... >> telnet: connect to address 219.165.236.94: Connection refused >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host >> Mac:~ ccommail$ >>=20 >> = =E3=82=82=E3=81=A1=E3=82=8D=E3=82=93=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=82=B5=E3= =83=BC=E3=83=90=E3=81=A8=E5=90=8C=E3=81=98=E5=86=85=E9=83=A8=E3=83=8D=E3=83= =83=E3=83=88=EF=BC=88NAT=E3=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=BF=E3=81=AE=E5=86=85=E5=81= =B4=EF=BC=89=E3=81=AB=E7=BD=AE=E3=81=84=E3=81=9F=E7=AB=AF=E6=9C=AB=E3=81=8B= =E3=82=89=E3=82=84=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A8=E5=95=8F=E9=A1=8C=E3=81=AA=E3=81=8F=E4= =BB=A5=E4=B8=8B=E3=81=AE=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AB=E6=8E=A5=E7=B6=9A=E3=81= =A7=E3=81=8D=E3=81=BE=E3=81=97=E3=81=9F >> Mac:~ ccommail$ telnet 192.168.1.31 143 >> Trying 192.168.1.31... >> Connected to 192.168.1.31. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE = IDLE >> AUTH=3DPLAIN AUTH=3DLOGIN] Dovecot ready. >> bye >> bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. >> bye >> bye BAD Error in IMAP command received by server. >> bye >> * BYE Too many invalid IMAP commands. >> Connection closed by foreign host. >> Mac:~ ccommail$ telnet 192.168.1.31 25 >> Trying 192.168.1.31... >> Connected to 192.168.1.31. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 mail5.iloveyou.com ESMTP >> bye >> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized >> quit >> 221 2.0.0 Bye >> Connection closed by foreign host. >> ccmailnoiMac:~ ccmail$ >>=20 >> = PPPOE=E3=81=8Cimap=E3=81=AF=E3=83=AA=E3=83=80=E3=82=A4=E3=83=AC=E3=82=AF=E3= =83=88=E3=81=97=E3=81=A6=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=81=8C=E3=80=81smtp=E3= =81=AF=E5=BC=BE=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=E3=81=84=E3=82=8B=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81= =A7=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 >> /etc/rc.conf=E3=81=AE=E4=B8=AD=E3=81=A7firewall_type=3D=E2=80=9Copen=E2= =80=9D=E3=81=A8=E3=81=97=E3=81=A6=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=81 >> = =E4=BB=A5=E5=89=8D=E3=81=AFFBSD4.8=E3=81=A7=E5=90=8C=E6=A7=98=E3=81=AE=E3=83= =AB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=BF=E3=82=92=E4=BD=9C=E3=81=A3=E3=81=A6=E3=81=84=E3=81=9F= =E6=99=82=E3=81=AF=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AA=E5=95=8F=E9= =A1=8C=E3=81=AF=E3=81=AA=E3=81=8B=E3=81=A3=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=80= =81=E3=81=8A=E6=95=99=E3=81=88=E3=81=84=E3=81=9F=E3=81=A0=E3=81=91=E3=82=8C= =E3=81=B0=E5=B9=B8=E3=81=84=E3=81=A7=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users-jp >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-users-jp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org = mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users-jp = > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = 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一般に、プールされたFloating IPアドレスをご利用になる 契約には、契約プロバイダの外のIPアドレスの25番portへは 接続が許可されません。（OB25フィルタ規制） https://faq.uqwimax.jp/faq/show/1468 25番のSMTPは無認証接続が前提であることが、その理由です。 自力でInternet上の25番portへ接続できる環境を準備するには （日本国内では）「固定IPアドレス契約」がほぼ必須です。 宅内メールサーバを構築するなら、DNSドメインも運用したくなってきます。 Internet上にサービスを公開する以上、IPアドレスとその運用責任を負う 利用者情報を一対一で紐付ける固定IPアドレス（法人等）契約が必要なのです。 ミニマムでいいのでVPSサーバなどを契約されると、IPは固定されがちで OB25制限もありません。メール受け・出し放題です。 （安いとこのはCentOSとかubuntuになっちゃいますが…） 以上です。 > 今まで色々試したので、まとめます。 > > １）フレッツ（西日本,plala）にPPPOEで直接つながったPCからフレッツ（東日本,plala）つながったPPPOENAT > の内側のSMPTサーバにtelnet hoge.hoge.com 25 成功 > > ２）UqmobileのスマホデザリングにつながったPCからフレッツ（東日本,plala）つながったPPPOENAT > の内側のSMPTサーバにtelnet hoge.hoge.com25 refuse > > ３）UqWiMAXのルータL01につながったPCからフレッツ（東日本,plala）つながったPPPOENAT > の内側のSMPTサーバにtelnet hogehoge.com 25 refuse > > 2),3)でtelnet 25を行なったPCはスマホやWIMAXがNATルータとなってプライベートアドレスをもらっているのに対し、１）のPCはグローバルアドレスをもらっています。 > > 結局、送信側のNATルータが原因ということになるのでしょうか？ > > > > 2018/04/05 11:40、ilovefd のメール: > > > > 西村です > > > > ありがとうございます。 > > 当たりのようです。 > > クライアント側のNATが原因でしょうか？ > > > >> telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 など他へSMTP接続できませんでした。 > > > > > > インターネット側からNAT-Aの内側のSMTPサーバにtelnet hoge.hoge.com 25する場合、正確にいうとインターネット側の端末もNATルータつまりNAT-Bの内側に入っています。そこでNAT-B(FreeBSD10.1)にログインし、NAT-Aの内側のSMTPにtelnet hoge.hoge.com 25してみましたらうまくいきました. > > > > $ telnet hoge.hoge-wiki.com 25 > > Trying 219.XX.XX.XX... > > Connected to hoge.hoge-wiki.com. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220 mail5.hoge.com ESMTP > > quit > > 221 2.0.0 Bye > > Connection closed by foreign host. > > $ > > > > 原因はメールクライアントの置いてある側のNAT-Bルータのようです。 > > NAT-BからNAT-A内側SMPTに直接telnet 25するのは*OKだけどNAT-B内側端末からからNAT-A内側SMPTにtelnet 25するのは失敗します。 > > > > また現在NAT-Bの内側のメール端末のメールソフトからplalaに対してはimapクライアントで送受信できているのに、NAT-Aの内側のSMPTには送受信できていないので、これについては２５でなく５８７にすれば通るということなのでしょうか。 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Thu Apr 5 22:16:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by 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(www1084.sakura.ne.jp [219.94.129.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3458C765F6 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2018 23:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amogha@www1084.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www1084.sakura.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www1084.sakura.ne.jp (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w35McKxl047216; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:38:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amogha@www1084.sakura.ne.jp) Received: (from amogha@localhost) by www1084.sakura.ne.jp (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id w35McKUG047215; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:38:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amogha) X-Mailer: emacs 24.5.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: masa@amogha.jp (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNF07M0Q+PjsbKEI=?=) To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Cc: you@dearest.net In-Reply-To: (you@dearest.net) Organization: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNF07M0Q+PjskTjtkRSo7SE1RJSIlSSVsJTkbKEI=?= Reply-To: masa@amogha.jp Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:38:20 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96208] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZWJzZDEwLjEbJEIkTiUrITwlTSVrGyhCbmF0?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEcbKEJzbXRwGyRCJCxETCRpJEokJBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 23:09:01 -0000 NAT の設定はやったことない 丸山です。しかし sendmail は多少はいじってい ます。少なくとも sendmail_enable="YES" として cd /etc/mail; make restart としてうえで、 telnet xxxx 25 を実験すべきと思います。NAT を通さない条件でやってみると sendmail_enable="NO" では [root@pc05{866}] ~# telnet pc01 25 Trying 192.168.255.1... telnet: connect to address 192.168.255.1: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host で拒絶され、 sendmail_enable="YES" では一応 sendmail は答えてくれます。 sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" は、「そのホストから外に出て行くメールを許すか」の意味で、 「外からのメールを受けるか」の話は sendmail_enable="YES" の方だと思うのです。 >2018年4月5日 7:13 西村良弘 : > >> ありがとうございます。 >> 前に書きましたが、昨年の夏までは、FreeBSD4.8で同様のルータを作って作っていたのですが、その時は問題なくできていました。 >> /etc/rc.confに >> >> sendmail_enable="NO" >> sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >> sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >> sendmail_msp_queue_enable=“NO" >> >> としてsendmailを止めているのですが、 >> >> sendmail_enable="NO" >> sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >> sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" >> sendmail_msp_queue_enable=“NO” >> >> としても状況は変わりませんでした。 -------- 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Fri Apr 6 00:23:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB42F8EAAD for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 00:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilovefd@topaz.plala.or.jp) Received: from msc13.plala.or.jp (msc13.plala.or.jp [60.36.166.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB09679463 for ; 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present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5A8079EA0 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 00:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amogha@www1084.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www1084.sakura.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www1084.sakura.ne.jp (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w360cIWI089958; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:38:18 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amogha@www1084.sakura.ne.jp) Received: (from amogha@localhost) by www1084.sakura.ne.jp (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id w360cI7x089957; Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:38:18 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from amogha) X-Mailer: emacs 24.5.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: masa@amogha.jp (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNF07M0Q+PjsbKEI=?=) To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <396AC006-A7E7-4DCB-A4E6-95DAE12D8542@topaz.plala.or.jp> (message from ilovefd on Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:23:16 +0900) Organization: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNF07M0Q+PjskTjtkRSo7SE1RJSIlSSVsJTkbKEI=?= Reply-To: masa@amogha.jp Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 09:38:17 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96210] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?RnJlZWJzZDEwLjEbJEIkTiUrITwlTSVrGyhCbmF0?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJEcbKEJzbXRwGyRCJCxETCRpJEokJBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 00:38:22 -0000 Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:23:16 +0900 ilovefd writes: >NATルータの後ろのメールサーバのrc.confでは当然、 >sendmail_enable=“YES" 失礼しました。状況を誤解しておりました。 -------- 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp