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To: Simon Connah , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1f23fe09-b421-f43a-b1b6-095998ee19e9@gmail.com> From: Anders Jensen-Waud Message-ID: <7e529f9d-46e7-9a6a-c98f-3593f86a1f4d@jensenwaud.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 12:41:17 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f23fe09-b421-f43a-b1b6-095998ee19e9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E1A0D84AF2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=ywmlLpXA X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.29 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx4.googlemail.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx5.googlemail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.99)[ip: (-9.40), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.25), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[jensenwaud.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 02:41:25 -0000 On 9/5/19 10:43 pm, Simon Connah wrote: > I'd like to try and contribute to FreeBSD if I am able to but since I > only have one computer I have to use virtual machines to run all of my > development work loads. I was wondering if it was possible to run a > FreeBSD virtual machine and then run a Linux virtual machine to do > remote debugging of the FreeBSD virtual machine? > > If that is not possible can I do the same thing with another remote > FreeBSD virtual machine for remote debugging? > > For the record I use VMWare Workstation 15 Pro running on Windows 10 > Pro to run my virtual machines. > Likely not. You would need a debugger on your Linux VM that understands the debugging symbols of the FreeBSD source code (LLVM / LLDB). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 12 02:43:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ACA1589D9C for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 02:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x532.google.com (mail-pg1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1DB784D61 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 02:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anders@jensenwaud.com) Received: by mail-pg1-x532.google.com with SMTP id 145so4927427pgg.9 for ; Sat, 11 May 2019 19:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jensenwaud-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=uoi+y2d492J6dneVeYfqcHi1yiGfMLvjp10Xfr/TSTk=; b=yPZVK1uT6Hhg8oZ1WFbujCuMuGCd05Yo/vYiMrTV9qBxXqejJC+vKG0S9oocjoQqx4 yjFcqpn+8brJ60+2QjDcX2UVhvyiM9QIyStNkAsijc+yipjyVisP531MCYi7rw/e4la0 jsaaHxvmmRJTdtBqXRzZZTgRCRzvEYhRcrBfUjAKiGVxs+SImCFeFaZnIm25AglZmrht JBiB6i2DCMx5i1YfqOXp/JUni9OG4QOFHk/Mc25WyqodKTeo5h7eCAo+hQDoHD5tXBvf 22+CKm3VBUImdGwzAFeAZC+xhkpremVs62HrriRJyf7Jq7psubkgQnLAesqB/5Kz089g DV2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=uoi+y2d492J6dneVeYfqcHi1yiGfMLvjp10Xfr/TSTk=; b=AF1lfiE5FYtl2xVTgVPCPanftXsagvqc+yvSkEoc1s7Nz+GGiakGo/ltgToAxndRdb BSTKhbHW2Osh6BAZw4Mqq6tnnlGwgGlifafse0/UpsCkSXS2GU+Qt7jRKz4qbLu3HLKv 22UGKnc3Yu7X3kaH3Yh4zRpw34pjM0AFWwdp5Y8Enq75kpUHBlk3/qcw8dvcGxNUJv7Y sfZ7U3flENTb4jrcKscJnKQziZnK94I07Ap5EZ+n6xaRRExlxIK5QuV0Mw/MaCHnKSph XHpW0sYKIRlYGu69YaGmqt0hVdkJVXAxiPbPz5hA1wNQ8Ml/XJ151iXDurITyzwJhnHk Izew== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXzlSZbDc8ShC1myc3O1EC9GPcqOTxzLBU+YT/+HoQhEQdGXQA0 AOi016tpfn1OPBsKvJ4AsIdT1c3Y9Sd7uA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwx2ZdvX/cBZ7C1WLNQtp2mm7KcVhaGVw//rTg6gMb2S+02fH1PN25VmPWx9TN8cwQfhcKLUA== X-Received: by 2002:a62:198e:: with SMTP id 136mr7747892pfz.180.1557628980838; Sat, 11 May 2019 19:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.86.145] ([59.167.161.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u1sm5358617pfh.85.2019.05.11.19.42.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 May 2019 19:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Blogging software recommendations? To: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com References: <20190511193710.C12D92013AC4DA@ary.qy> From: Anders Jensen-Waud Message-ID: <7b2eedac-b800-d052-6a9c-28f32ec64491@jensenwaud.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 12:42:56 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190511193710.C12D92013AC4DA@ary.qy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F1DB784D61 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 02:43:02 -0000 On 12/5/19 5:37 am, John Levine wrote: > In article <16781.1557601968@segfault.tristatelogic.com> you write: >> I hope this question isn't too far off-topic. >> >> I'd just like to ask if anyone would like to recommend to me any of the >> various specific blogging packages that are available as either ports >> or packages for FreeBSD. > You might as well use Wordpress, since approximately everyone else > does. It needs MySQL or one of its variants to store the blog's data > and Apache to be the web server but once they're set up it is easy to > install and manage. > I can recommend Jekyll if all you want is a basic publishing system. It uses templates and static files instead of PHP / MySQL and is thus much more secure. For something more interactive, Wordpress or Ghost is a better option. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 12 02:47:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF0158A069 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 02:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6109D84F16 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 02:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 71174 invoked from network); 12 May 2019 02:47:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=11602.5cd7895c.k1905; i=johnl-iecc.com@submit.iecc.com; bh=FFS3aBiHKzBFST3EWTXvkporEE46du72rm+9+SYUP+M=; b=veXRw01KSmPx8464dzO0ge8irjbGwqmnXuMbZtmmS1b/hlOPStqzXzlr0VTl+kqtzZcl2gTvJFcFauI7Q17VfoMlkcmkFyTfMlbbdulh113y7NATze/pBCL2i4YXNGKUaHMDSBUNkf/YeHkSDEQXbbi+bOj9UTu3bATIQuDvzBMOw7XtLRosFSythEVMcfXrG9l70OSSH7MTSSnK5qFBFmrYRtKUu9XkuKuBb41bsEp/RCopvQhOcubgF4tTgMKc Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPSA (TLS1.2 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD, johnl@iecc.com) via TCP6; 12 May 2019 02:47:56 -0000 Date: 11 May 2019 22:47:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Anders Jensen-Waud" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: Blogging software recommendations? In-Reply-To: <7b2eedac-b800-d052-6a9c-28f32ec64491@jensenwaud.com> References: <20190511193710.C12D92013AC4DA@ary.qy> <7b2eedac-b800-d052-6a9c-28f32ec64491@jensenwaud.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (OSX 337 2019-05-05) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 02:47:59 -0000 > I can recommend Jekyll if all you want is a basic publishing system. It uses > templates and static files instead of PHP / MySQL and is thus much more > secure. If you want something really basic, I still use the tiny perl script blosxom at https://jl.ly/ but since the publishing process involves dropping a file in its directory tree, it's not likely to address the issue of allowing review or moderation. 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I was wondering if it was possible to run a FreeBSD > virtual machine and then run a Linux virtual machine to do remote debugging > of the FreeBSD virtual machine? > > If that is not possible can I do the same thing with another remote FreeBSD > virtual machine for remote debugging? > > For the record I use VMWare Workstation 15 Pro running on Windows 10 Pro to > run my virtual machines. Can you clarify what you want to debug? Remote debugging in its simplest form would be SSHing to the FreeBSD box and running lldb or gdb, which is fairly trivial to do from Windows (or any modern OS). 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Guilmette stated: >I hope this question isn't too far off-topic. > >I'd just like to ask if anyone would like to recommend to me any of the >various specific blogging packages that are available as either ports >or packages for FreeBSD. I've never used any of them myself, but >I have a very deep desire to begin doing so. I just don't have any >idea what the specific pros and cons of any of them are, and thus >would apperciate some advice and opinions. > >I don't have a lot in the way of specific requirements. I'm assuming >that pretty much all of them will have an HTTP interface which supports >a WYSIWYG kind of editing, including the ability to select text fonts, >styles (e.g. bold, italics), colors, and embedded links to both local >and remote additional content, such as image files, video files, etc. >I will definitely need all of that. > >Also, having tried, briefly, to use Google's free blogging platform in >the past, I already know that I'd like to have more and easier control >over page layout, in particular the size and placement of images along >with the text. > >The only other feature I really need is the ability to allow some >select set of people, e.g. proofreaders, to preview individual blog >posts prior to them going "live", but my guess is that my knowledge of >ordinary UNIX and Apache adnministration should allow me to accomplish >this with any of the available blogging packages, and to do so in a >manner that is entirely independent of the packages themselves. >Still, it would be helpful if I could find a blogging software package >that already has support for password-controlled previews of >individual not-yet-live blog posts pre-integrated, right out of the >box. > >Thanks, and I look forward to any & all replies. > > >Regards, >rfg > > >P.S. Actually, I would be more than happy to use one of the >pre-existing online blogging platforms, sucgh as the Google one, but >again, I need something that wll allow me to give just some specific >people a "preview" view of individual blog posts before they go live, >and I never managed to figure out how to do that with the Google >blogging stuff. > >Also, of course, I worry about things like security and the ability to >easily make backups. For years I've heard security horror stories >involving Wordpress, so that one is probably going to be last on my >list for consideration, behind all of the others. I use Joomla myself. You can configure it to only allow certain users access, etcetera. Install it from ports to insure all the dependencies are installed correctly. Configure it, apache and MySQL as required. Make sure it works correctly, then uninstall it. Now, download it from the Joomla site and install it again. Your settings will still be there in Apache and MySQL. 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I was wondering if it was possible to run a > FreeBSD virtual machine and then run a Linux virtual machine to do > remote debugging of the FreeBSD virtual machine? > > If that is not possible can I do the same thing with another remote > FreeBSD virtual machine for remote debugging? > > For the record I use VMWare Workstation 15 Pro running on Windows 10 Pro > to run my virtual machines. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There was a talk about remote debugging at Meet BSD 2014 in San Jose, I think it was Jordan K. Hubbard if my memory is correct. You might find an archive online? -- Waitman Gobble From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 12 13:48:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27DA1597C5B for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 13:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C02BE7015E for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 13:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (ip68-1-57-197.pn.at.cox.net [68.1.57.197]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D386F21108C for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 09:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.19] (D9.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 105FDE87A5 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 08:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Blogging software recommendations? 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Guilmette stated: > >> I hope this question isn't too far off-topic. >> >> I'd just like to ask if anyone would like to recommend to me any of th= e >> various specific blogging packages that are available as either ports >> or packages for FreeBSD. I've never used any of them myself, but >> I have a very deep desire to begin doing so. I just don't have any >> idea what the specific pros and cons of any of them are, and thus >> would apperciate some advice and opinions. >> >> I don't have a lot in the way of specific requirements. I'm assuming >> that pretty much all of them will have an HTTP interface which support= s >> a WYSIWYG kind of editing, including the ability to select text fonts,= >> styles (e.g. bold, italics), colors, and embedded links to both local >> and remote additional content, such as image files, video files, etc. >> I will definitely need all of that. >> >> Also, having tried, briefly, to use Google's free blogging platform in= >> the past, I already know that I'd like to have more and easier control= >> over page layout, in particular the size and placement of images along= >> with the text. >> >> The only other feature I really need is the ability to allow some >> select set of people, e.g. proofreaders, to preview individual blog >> posts prior to them going "live", but my guess is that my knowledge of= >> ordinary UNIX and Apache adnministration should allow me to accomplish= >> this with any of the available blogging packages, and to do so in a >> manner that is entirely independent of the packages themselves. >> Still, it would be helpful if I could find a blogging software package= >> that already has support for password-controlled previews of >> individual not-yet-live blog posts pre-integrated, right out of the >> box. >> >> Thanks, and I look forward to any & all replies. >> >> >> Regards, >> rfg >> >> >> P.S. Actually, I would be more than happy to use one of the >> pre-existing online blogging platforms, sucgh as the Google one, but >> again, I need something that wll allow me to give just some specific >> people a "preview" view of individual blog posts before they go live, >> and I never managed to figure out how to do that with the Google >> blogging stuff. >> >> Also, of course, I worry about things like security and the ability to= >> easily make backups. For years I've heard security horror stories >> involving Wordpress, so that one is probably going to be last on my >> list for consideration, behind all of the others. > I use Joomla myself. You can configure it to only allow certain users > access, etcetera. Install it from ports to insure all the dependencies > are installed correctly. Configure it, apache and MySQL as required. > Make sure it works correctly, then uninstall it. Now, download it from > the Joomla site and install it again. Your settings will still be there= > in Apache and MySQL. It is MUCH easier to keep the program up to date > and install extensions directly than by trying to use the ports system.= I ran Serendipity for quite a while, and liked it ok.=C2=A0 These days (f= or a very long time now) I run my own code, which is not open source or in the ports tree.=C2=A0 Maybe some day I'll contribute it..... it's not "ju= st" a blog; it was more of a discussion forum (think phpbb or similar) but has the ability to also support blogs with comments, e-newsletters with watermarking security and a bunch of other stuff, all template driven so it'll do pretty much whatever you want in terms of how the display is formatted. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms020300030507090900010806 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 12 14:37:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCFB15987C8 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 14:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B114717E4 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 14:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B610718055 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 09:36:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Blogging software recommendations? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <16781.1557601968@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <547bc766-afff-a756-1b1e-da31bb73a134@denninger.net> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <6832f1eb-f90f-ffa1-efa1-f4f74625c451@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 09:36:52 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <547bc766-afff-a756-1b1e-da31bb73a134@denninger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6B114717E4 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.43)[0.430,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.50)[0.498,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.64)[0.637,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 14:37:01 -0000 On 2019-05-12 08:47, Karl Denninger wrote: > On 5/12/2019 06:58, Carmel NY wrote: >> On Sat, 11 May 2019 12:12:48 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette stated: >> > > I ran Serendipity for quite a while, and liked it ok.  These days (for a > very long time now) I run my own code, which is not open source or in > the ports tree.  Maybe some day I'll contribute it..... it's not "just" > a blog; it was more of a discussion forum (think phpbb or similar) but > has the ability to also support blogs with comments, e-newsletters with > watermarking security and a bunch of other stuff, all template driven so > it'll do pretty much whatever you want in terms of how the display is > formatted. > +1 I did install two instances of serendipity when two different projects I work for need blogging (on their servers). I highly recommend it. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 13 03:46:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE5515A9D2F for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 03:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x931.google.com (mail-ua1-x931.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::931]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90FE4955F0 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 03:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x931.google.com with SMTP id t15so4267078uao.5 for ; Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=f6Mg4ZgP9dpW/5HwpT4JM0PdfmDu9mKmOCKrz9mfd7o=; b=HIioP0It2CJ0EWDb49s+psxySIkz5/+wfdFE1IooM0nbbuDhgG/CdR3mhgJxiVzVKZ TQdpoPrTgRi0jnTDr5biTnsvpUVNcG+AfILW6AvRVqzB9HZhSzsnlnbMQNGi24zSYE2W Aniwx2vKVYHHDyMnc6G88TXIFMkYHtIH+Aalc1TcR8aDd32VMnTwW/7h6W7a2yPBKvGf y+TSySB6ETA9Z6BOGxl3UV2kGDeQv07i5IqHrTCJtqCO3DL8e0g/tYBgHj2c644aReX5 fV56q/jWNM5UuIOwQ8L9WlrCUF6Nl1ZRu05aChgq5CXqUOaruYp1E+62skhd6g+X/m2C K60Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=f6Mg4ZgP9dpW/5HwpT4JM0PdfmDu9mKmOCKrz9mfd7o=; b=hpkbBuKOZRJmG9pCUKU4UgCqINDT8YT0+kUr/FCWmo9DCzxUT1cwfrE181p7dz7en/ ZSW66JoY0haXzURsF578nUkEfmOiEYvlAFqOiM/XmR8hen4/hHM10f7e35EbeAAXQfsS yLuV7ezn2iLp+ZEf2f9O5av3cyKIJf4xRWk83UW9fUFH2+43Ze7BXgau+0at2VomfDHK PaLRJmJvHSSKuxSJMd5xkkuJHH21ZDi7MOPBxzqQRryjpyIbiTH/cjkdGi9lauIJE3wE HLo3doLvPQ/cfx+z0IVSaeW5lTrkSFBKpZUlhJkjAZILHvIutF4MWPaD5v+DGAdAP/pA mPiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXQNM+N5qE3fT7dy5SWFpNjRZqbQ/q7Qju/BLosRaFo946jWBGU TZ+kEYYSgJuESQxvupF6rrM8asQRmQNbtbuyKxU7iw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzwGz+QWWtUhAvrUbzJATfgkCaEFXyf8sRoDOK5cjahUvyvIY44rYrVjKYSDx81AAOOq6Hs4VNR7W8H5g1YHPo= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:b90:: with SMTP id c16mr11049749uak.55.1557719214077; Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: B J Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Xfce Crashed, Can't Get Toolbars Back To: freebsd-questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90FE4955F0 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=HIioP0It; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of va6bmj@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::931 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=va6bmj@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.14), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.25), asn: 15169(-2.26), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 03:46:56 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 11.2 with Xfce on a laptop. For some reason, the desktop crashed and I can't get the toolbars back. I booted the machine, logged in under my account, and I got messages concerning the following: serverauth.812 does not exist .Xauthority not writable I haven't the foggiest what that means and I'm wondering just how I'm going to get Xfce working again without having to do a clean re-installation. BTW, I haven't had the time to upgrade to 12 on that machine yet. Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you. B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 13 04:10:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7E15AA3B2 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 04:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B607F95D3C for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 04:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.172.223]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MG9Xu-1hTJL430Q8-00GaBv; Mon, 13 May 2019 05:57:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 05:57:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Xfce Crashed, Can't Get Toolbars Back Message-Id: <20190513055738.d390a8dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:h+3ngt2bO+2PEIEicuEf+zgcVRlU9EkHSqmVhfEd+ZvcakTBgKo iSQFrRETwhosbELoXjRCRBFU20zDun/kKhbXjEVn77eCpDHUdZIRgSS2fTlHjY40fukBhQN /4m3Ff2JYWu9S0Kh89qnJAr+zTXtdk5cSScRP9qqAA1StTdn9DUf1CMHcavDgYp8p2darlT waoGvjWT+Vm1gEb7Dbnog== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JtFN4MmvZ5I=:mS6QC5KKrjl0+uEsJxijxP +wUqp9T6PV0lkyZ4mPJx6uH9evqMRI4aNo1a0Jc/ihgNXC91TYWcLWAWJShhdWRHtlGYUVYL4 pOlTyeku6LYqjPIB3T6tKLcsMImuZAOben2NoptmJMjYNr/vzT169mDcWbRvq7kv6LUqf0itc 4dQLzxXoYoIfTa63gkU/y3wqwArH0A3SE7Yuqd04BX/NxtPvxgecZtO5z8L89Gjss/3csg7QE +yHECQyPeEl8ApUFhplxZoi3pWef7KrKo6CUIGW0lktAPrvfFRDTXsiFnVPfZEddPUHKGWL9L uY73CysOltTAUzFvkFN4iATupwUkFu3zuTXh7lsBrePKO8UhIe1B6ummglkXj5pvY2LUmxR/i 1+P1e0fV/SrBNcx/NONc7C6ZhYLLjaWdLATjXE9mUpHsS46hgUXb5vCJG+dNZgSPyqGcpbF/1 HlRk3+5+kviekDXG/jD5VPmzqXwBuH42BQiuWs+tJPx2Z0gVc+X1R0es4Zt6qmARSOp4HjBDT 64lZalPfnz5K0Ak6T2r+WWc4uknknW61UB6bYKWa3ALQ7sp5Uxyf8m6XoBO+nvYSk6PTltAgZ 8aJ3/TF4OoDT9uLa6ExA96EtnL/pbC3dQ/klK2k+Pluc85CIoqY58SpJ5VhLQbv0Rdl+WxJIv 5LlKpjksPjO2/l2uleVrQMvzcZpJCOditdWdr0t1XlygpPpeGZ3WgmUf8XEcKaZ1OagjI9uWU Xq3F7YTjjLwjZcOKFU4xkc+btSAftyZuvMCy1ZQJyjbdNksHeLtonxMscW4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B607F95D3C X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[223.172.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.73)[0.729,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.77)[0.771,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.16)[ip: (0.42), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.51), asn: 8560(1.91), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 04:10:41 -0000 On Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:43 -0700, B J wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 11.2 with Xfce on a laptop. For some reason, the > desktop crashed and I can't get the toolbars back. Is this "something new" or does it happen right after installation? If "new", what did you do before the problem appeared? > I booted the machine, logged in under my account, and I got messages > concerning the following: > > serverauth.812 does not exist Strange. The file(s) in question are named .serverauth., with a dot (".") at the beginning... > .Xauthority not writable > > I haven't the foggiest what that means and I'm wondering just how I'm going > to get Xfce working again without having to do a clean re-installation. This looks like a secondary problem. But what does % ls -la ~/.Xauthority report? It should belong to your user and have rw/-/- mode. > Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you. I assume you're starting X with "startx", so it uses a .xinitrc, right? In this case, replace the call to Xfce (the last "exec" line) with exec xterm Now your X session will start with nothing but an X terminal. In this terminal, manually enter the command which you use to start Xfce (check .xinitrc when in doubt). In case you're using a display manager, apply .xsession instead of .xinitrc in the steps mentioned above. Is there anything "non-standard" about your X setup? Anything in .xsession-errors? In worst case, just remove and re-install the Xfce-related ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 13 06:54:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B66F15ADB2A for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06F486BC1A for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=PTtUCztQfZD/zjnUFsyELrRygbgNqLZqUnebSshXWV4=; b=ZunJjCfKkKdvKTUF6kl2IaaiB1t7mFggd2xBwxOUj0ya3hBkyX6P6ZYpKaL3u7Qv3Bllpg9pJNB7T ZnCBT+2tD2w/L6bxLCtBJ5TgxvCmTeIrZrR1J3UOBfMqoOgOF/E1RIjqFrv4oKpzVuOvo0TiTh6GiR y78eEXQ7YAeR3vpc= X-HalOne-Cookie: 97990fc01495cd8acdecfbc3ba27943255b6bd92 X-HalOne-ID: b00d7f06-7549-11e9-bc24-d0431ea8a283 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.166.11.253]) by mailrelay1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id b00d7f06-7549-11e9-bc24-d0431ea8a283; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9e116e69eff6be8b4fce1ef9264bdf6863113d0f.camel@smormegpa.no> Subject: Re: Xfce Crashed, Can't Get Toolbars Back From: Matthias Oestreicher To: Polytropon , B J Cc: freebsd-questions Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:38:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190513055738.d390a8dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190513055738.d390a8dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 06F486BC1A X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=ZunJjCfK X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.07 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.07)[-0.069,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.29)[0.289,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.271,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx2.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx3.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[182.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.39)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.12), asn: 51468(0.84), country: DK(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 06:54:30 -0000 Am Montag, den 13.05.2019, 05:57 +0200 schrieb Polytropon: > On Sun, 12 May 2019 20:46:43 -0700, B J wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 11.2 with Xfce on a laptop. For some reason, the > > desktop crashed and I can't get the toolbars back. > > Is this "something new" or does it happen right after > installation? If "new", what did you do before the > problem appeared? > > > > > I booted the machine, logged in under my account, and I got messages > > concerning the following: > > > > serverauth.812 does not exist > > Strange. The file(s) in question are named .serverauth., > with a dot (".") at the beginning... > > > > > .Xauthority not writable > > > > I haven't the foggiest what that means and I'm wondering just how I'm going > > to get Xfce working again without having to do a clean re-installation. > > This looks like a secondary problem. But what does > > % ls -la ~/.Xauthority > > report? It should belong to your user and have rw/-/- mode. > > > > > Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you. > > I assume you're starting X with "startx", so it uses a .xinitrc, > right? In this case, replace the call to Xfce (the last "exec" > line) with > > exec xterm > > Now your X session will start with nothing but an X terminal. > In this terminal, manually enter the command which you use > to start Xfce (check .xinitrc when in doubt). > > In case you're using a display manager, apply .xsession instead > of .xinitrc in the steps mentioned above. > > Is there anything "non-standard" about your X setup? > > Anything in .xsession-errors? > > > > In worst case, just remove and re-install the Xfce-related > ports. > Maybe you had accidentally su'ed to root when you started your previous X session? In such case, the files you mentioned and also some other X related files in your home directory will be owned by root then. Just remove them as Polytropon already suggested. That would at least explain why ~/.Xauthority isn't writeable. Matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 13 22:58:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B25159CF5D for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@cmplx.uk) Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [IPv6:2a02:1658:1::199:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net", Issuer "jail0199.vps.exonetric.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30D7671AE9 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@cmplx.uk) Received: from jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (jail0199.vps.exonetric.net [178.250.76.108]) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x4DMwQQQ085383 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:26 GMT (envelope-from lists@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net) Received: (from lists@localhost) by jail0199.vps.exonetric.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x4DMwQYi085382 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:26 GMT (envelope-from lists) Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:26 +0000 From: lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ImageMagick png error: unable to load module '/usr/local/lib/ImageMagick-7.0.7/modules-Q16HDRI/coders/png.la': file not found Message-ID: <20190513225826.GA85237@jail0199.vps.exonetric.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 30D7671AE9 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.87)[0.866,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cmplx.uk]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: smtp.cmplx.uk]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.943,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.74)[0.741,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12290, ipnet:2a02:1658::/32, country:GB]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[ip: (0.23), ipnet: 2a02:1658::/32(0.51), asn: 12290(0.56), country: GB(-0.09)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 22:58:30 -0000 I asked in ports@ but got no replies yet. Maybe I should ask here too. Thanks Anton ----- Forwarded message from lists ----- $ identify bloom1.png identify: unable to load module '/usr/local/lib/ImageMagick-7.0.7/modules-Q16HDRI/coders/png.la': file not found @ error/module.c/OpenModule/1275. identify: no decode delegate for this image format `PNG' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/509. $ pkg info -xo Ima ImageMagick7-nox11-7.0.7.16_2 graphics/ImageMagick7-nox11 All packages installed via pkg. pkg check shows no problems. I did pkg delete, reinstall, etc. - still the same. This is on 11.2-RELEASE-p2. Any ideas? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 01:45:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3114F15A0B6B for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 01:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x231.google.com (mail-oi1-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2278D76A45 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 01:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x231.google.com with SMTP id l203so10933555oia.3 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 18:45:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UTzuaAANiOg9TDyF+FjNKiNpjqkYHumT22M1CTUacYs=; b=Ud/b9xiT1MJJE8N5u1F24fbXinct/qX4T2jO7soY8LXQd6Lra5qEN9bv1uQ8SL9Nld euIlQ+pBDfrv0lbm6pl+Bi/+7HZhV5e+m9tDJCTVW+XjMBWZtV7YDOMYkSoqVKbTsFLX g9GbHlZDTPq6luqkAAolhWzI59lGKZh9ciN4QaKR6w6XLkEWg3QalWpAnV1Z4dSa4oaj S+uiDiHeOOvBrUyaUczT/tVMaiRJ/65zI8UGh2k08uYS3xzZWmzqPs29rDg2SzjN4jS5 a+4PXp7Mc9uAH6dzBNqnSxXB07946HdD/TRuRkMdHuMgUzlShCeJXwffEE32xJYhxy9V pPpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UTzuaAANiOg9TDyF+FjNKiNpjqkYHumT22M1CTUacYs=; b=ITa7Eg1ETmq5jPNys6HBYk5b6U6e00xEVDHDE5xD04Mf0O+7thGDP5U5mENEFuEUwf iJ8r4rey/hDX4N/jmKeSbPS3UA4QJ9eGU7pJBEMEaNApPRrCtwdsrEItKnyu1ziHDQDi 2DLgJNKdsl++LS6QhVxAmwDYuEUPdAyMLlkRbLMJ/6HRwjik4annOvbyRh7o29IEytTm ukabS/Am8j+k0dEOwi1ZjZ8ybucXlC5KL0H2EYStGHxa3Sfy2WHhceV2xdx9PPtTwMso gcLGFuOsx4zDMXfGdRnJaezRXbVsT9ilZlZCHfQV2AhC/2gpuFAZDo4KvZlFoNSNi5JB jGSg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXT5c+iLq/POeMaJRNOhfXvv7m8EMaA9+8kKQrsCB6Bd6o5GAoh sNyFtqHCyAK02ck/Wp1XrTgNu6BZnbAP+oBvQIjutpkh X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyEKgqWS8NPZ5qRA1b8+R0ZH6l/F88XIX+T80RFgW9cTDuftYg2DYJCV9iAR+0LB7bQK8HQbTr0FfkiEcalaOE= X-Received: by 2002:aca:b7c5:: with SMTP id h188mr1430557oif.130.1557798327005; Mon, 13 May 2019 18:45:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 18:45:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: dhclient question To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2278D76A45 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Ud/b9xiT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kurtbuff@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kurtbuff@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.73 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.716,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/related,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.00)[ip: (-9.42), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.25), asn: 15169(-2.26), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 01:45:30 -0000 I've got a FreeBSD 12-RELEASE-p1 VM running in VMware Workstation Pro. I traveled from network to another, and wanted to refresh my IP address after suspending and resuming the VM. To do this, I performed the following after resuming the VM: rm /var/db/dhclient.leases/em0 then service dhclient restart em0 This seemed to work. However, ifconfig reveals something unexpected [image: image.png] After I saw that, I did: ifconfig em0 down ifconfig em0 up and there was no change in the results. It seems a bit weird. Anyone know why this doesn't work as expected? Is there a better way of releasing/renewing the lease? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 02:35:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF04A15A228E for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 02:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (griffon.alerce.com [206.125.171.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "griffon.alerce.com", Issuer "griffon.alerce.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71F16803BF for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 02:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883862842E for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 614472842D for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id BB42B200E02483; Mon, 13 May 2019 19:35:19 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 19:35:19 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 71F16803BF X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[alerce.com]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[griffon.alerce.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.780,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 25795(-0.08), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 02:35:30 -0000 Newer AWS instances use nvme disk devices. On Linux these devices do not have stable names, the volume that was nvme1 on one boot might be nvme3 the next time you boot. There are a variety of tricks that pry the originally requested device name (e.g. /dev/sdh) out of the device and e.g. use udev rules to make symbolic links between that name and the unstable name. Details are here [1] in the AWS docs. The name of the device that was requested (e.g. /dev/sdh) is stashed in device (controller?) and accessible via a vendor-specific extension, > The device name is available through the NVMe controller > vendor-specific extension (bytes 384:4095 of the controller > identification): Amazon provides a python script in their Linux (here's a googled-up copy [2]) that grubs around and finds it for you. On other Linux's you can roll your own starting from `nvme id-ctrl`. I'm working with the FreeBSD 12 ZFS AMI's and assume that they'll have the same issues with unstable naming that Linux has. After a handful of tries, I haven't yet seen things change order, but the negative result isn't very comforting. I don't see the originally requested name in the output of `nvmecontrol identify /dev/nvme1`, or `nvmecontrol identify -x -v /dev/nvme1` (or `/dev/nvme1ns1`). On a flier, I tried the Linux script [2], but it fails with `[Errno 25] Inappropriate ioctl for device`. I can see a few points of alignment between the Linux script and the FreeBSD nvme driver, e.g. the `NVME_OPC_IDENTIFY` opcode value from the `nvme_admin_opcode` enum seems to match the value of `NVME_ADMIN_IDENTIFY` on line 29 of [2] but that's as far as I've unraveled it. Can anyone speak to the current state of device names for nvme disks on AWS using the FreeBSD 12 AMI's? Is name-stability an issue? If so, is there a work-around? Thanks! g. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 03:34:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96E215A39A5 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 03:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x329.google.com (mail-ot1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6D998299E for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 03:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-x329.google.com with SMTP id u11so3460780otq.7 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 20:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1cTapzp2S0LwJeYdA1fLhiPgTPayQ40hh3ytyb/Mhvc=; b=L1FCocLOkXRQ6lBrTR/IQ38cOGvjJiXjLo1OUUhmOyhai3QwbpropEQY6XZ2kIIZpl kpzbNZqH7m4VHahRlyDwF46IEhRc3HlEu04cYavqF3GOsv+SCxhv5uJ773Fe7bTkb/dS SUuJESQX0waH2bWTF4OUBMCQIMDELolzNJ4O6tji8VdT7KFXkMwSJgmiGwjS/yDvX2QY LghooUmDbbq0WJo5Dcdtua8CDGomYxDCFnoQ87PYbm1HVJ3t9p+7nFkSc9r0nJKroj+o 90sPVTB7dCjkssFOgfLXSClCEUzQq1sqOiGPGnOVNUuLKncLKhb2whyl6xDMtp4LxgBc M+1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1cTapzp2S0LwJeYdA1fLhiPgTPayQ40hh3ytyb/Mhvc=; b=eAGu9IclPWg4prFqwfmRPYhhFcmXcTctxvPJo0X0RyPJLv6zzH+KLvbzdrHbtfkkyV 87+FVxFtB029MnGVWKL3QCq/3sC7Zx5rLqViW6zYz/WwiELfalX9BgEVb69o7cY++XSw +3mSxO4nsLJcWSSgYO6wXKamJ/zhoIKnM5uYbPsBUb3lj8DBL7oRTKsSTejNjcawsaE4 ZBZSeglc5ZrDWqvODcJZtVLzCscwyEqmSTUVaKB0/CTwv2AbrUgOUO4FU3uDStvpqXOK L3pok6kIkmleppweZKjXuM9c5hHQasdwRGc2UY45YDAsqJc4+pr+l6fyODyT4bPoqPGx kQ9A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVSL7S0cQ6ooYznqBPvlYIcl/Wd5tjhwycICyF74qD1LIL4ZpPh eZ0S/XgJm561oF9QsMhk9w+ydHBtw2CmW+xWrpa1+7kt X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwQbXPQfFA/+qVK1G65k3bUqTGUeSjD2F+4O5hxWQW4Dw10N8DcjSrRlPqSC3uwO+oveqV6oxrGUpMPIq1LL8k= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:170e:: with SMTP id i14mr10256131ota.263.1557804859172; Mon, 13 May 2019 20:34:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190514043640.afe58701.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190514043640.afe58701.freebsd@edvax.de> From: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 20:34:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dhclient question To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D6D998299E X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=L1FCocLO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kurtbuff@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::329 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kurtbuff@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.01 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.02)[ip: (-9.51), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.25), asn: 15169(-2.26), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 03:34:22 -0000 I completely forgot about that. Here's the output of ifconfig - the bolded line is the address from the previous network, and the one after that is the address from the current network Kurt: em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=81009b ether 00:0c:29:9c:f6:a1 inet6 fe80::20c:29ff:fe9c:f6a1%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 *inet 192.168.1.19 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255* inet 172.31.255.60 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.31.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active nd6 options=23 On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:36 PM Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 13 May 2019 18:45:15 -0700, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > > This seemed to work. However, ifconfig reveals something unexpected > > [image: image.png] > > > > After I saw that, [...] > > This list strips binary attachments. 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I'd think that moving to a new subnet would refresh the IP address and the default gateway, at least. $ netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS em0 localhost link#2 UH lo0 172.31.255.0/24 link#1 U em0 172.31.255.60 link#1 UHS lo0 192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U em0 192.168.1.19 link#1 UHS lo0 On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:34 PM Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > I completely forgot about that. > > Here's the output of ifconfig - the bolded line is the address from the > previous network, and the one after that is the address from the current > network > > Kurt: > > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=81009b > ether 00:0c:29:9c:f6:a1 > inet6 fe80::20c:29ff:fe9c:f6a1%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > *inet 192.168.1.19 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255* > inet 172.31.255.60 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.31.255.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > nd6 options=23 > > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 7:36 PM Polytropon wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 May 2019 18:45:15 -0700, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: >> > This seemed to work. However, ifconfig reveals something unexpected >> > [image: image.png] >> > >> > After I saw that, [...] >> >> This list strips binary attachments. 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multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GKfm8aQAd8V6b5f7uBrVeMKyCwh2uJEW1" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 903EF87629 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 06:41:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GKfm8aQAd8V6b5f7uBrVeMKyCwh2uJEW1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="YTZ5rYRznxj4SgywsGP4OrCflY7jhMXHL"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> In-Reply-To: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> --YTZ5rYRznxj4SgywsGP4OrCflY7jhMXHL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/05/2019 03:35, George Hartzell wrote: > Can anyone speak to the current state of device names for nvme disks > on AWS using the FreeBSD 12 AMI's? Is name-stability an issue? If > so, is there a work-around? >=20 I don't know about device name stability in AWS instances, but if you are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any difference. With physical hardware it should be possible to eg. pop the disks out of one chassis and insert them into another in whatever order, and the system will still boot correctly. This sounds like the virtual equivalent of that. Technically, ZFS writes a label onto each disk which identifies it as belonging to a zpool and its role within that zpool. So long as the system can interrogate the disk at boot time, it will work out. If you're using UFS, or you have swap partitions separate to your ZFS then definitely investigate labelling your partitions -- see glabel(8) or gpart(8). This allows you to label a partition as eg. 'root' and then you can mount it by using the label as a device name eg. /dev/gpt/root in fstab(5). The FreeBSD installer defaults to using labelling like this both for ZFS and UFS installs. 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What I want is Boot -> start openvpn/tap0 configured -> start named -> start jails Because the jails uses tap0 of course they cannot start before tap0 is up, but this is what happens in the default configuration. Surely this cannot be unique? How did you do it? Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets overwritten when updated. Thanks! 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Regards, *Krish Lewis* Web Analyzer [image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 15:59:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A750D1591CB1 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 15:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (griffon.alerce.com [206.125.171.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "griffon.alerce.com", Issuer "griffon.alerce.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCAE372815; Tue, 14 May 2019 15:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491052842E; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 283882842D; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id DF72C200E03FC0; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700 To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS In-Reply-To: <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BCAE372815 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.78 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[alerce.com]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 25795(-0.09), country: US(-0.06)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: griffon.alerce.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.58)[-0.582,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.862,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:59:07 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > On 14/05/2019 03:35, George Hartzell wrote: > > Can anyone speak to the current state of device names for nvme disks > > on AWS using the FreeBSD 12 AMI's? Is name-stability an issue? If > > so, is there a work-around? > > I don't know about device name stability in AWS instances, but if you > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > difference. With physical hardware it should be possible to eg. pop the > disks out of one chassis and insert them into another in whatever order, > and the system will still boot correctly. This sounds like the virtual > equivalent of that. > [...] Thanks for the response! Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up referring to them by their UUID or .... The tricky bit is the automated setup. Say I ask for two additional devices, "this" and "that". I intend to use "this" for high performance what-cha-macallit so I specify high IOPS and etc.... I intend to use "that" for less important stuff, so I specify "lower" performance. Now as the machine's provisioning itself (e.g. Ansible), how can I reliably decide which to `zpool create` or `glabel` or ... with which names? The Linux world worked around this with the `udev` rules and *etc* that I described earlier. There are hacky ways to work around it, I could ensure that they're different sizes and use that to decide. I could do it in two stages. *etc...* I'm just wondering if there's a way to leverage the bit of info AWS has tucked away for us. g. 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How did you do it? > > Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets overwritten > when updated. You need an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with something like: # PROVIDE: vpnwait # REQUIRE: openvpn # BEFORE: I suggest taking a copy of a simple script that uses a start command like /etc/rc.d/msgs. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 17:53:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F524159426C for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com (mail-wr1-x429.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::429]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC7E576402 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 17:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id l2so20194333wrb.9 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 10:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PszSurFLH6k2VG5+yLxaUY7mdQv0h5mzYV+sAbzJvBY=; b=pmFm2LrIr8qEVUlBe3e2zviO74QLvGxCR+C1YCVWOsU3fCsCf3e6RbzaOO6NIL0emL SxOPusAQ6WByv+99d2sY9lSJQeKJpld20lFIJ7HGFP1V6owMdB7+kPkgjZ+n4xcUWxxS gqeNzOuCYdKt92aAioyOWSPUZ56tBfUtomFwyqBUF9Y1qkJT2gN0gWRqi52jm8gV4zSr odJOpq3KPtwrSS2ENn2ts4nNfbARkJ7XSErSHW5ea8iQGgs6GMur9t2h8Url6cjcLwhj 0aXYglSIuPFV1Y7C5DnDAt49WreocuyuGUQCM65w/Y9Iz3ABeTiaibnnyvLZkD8TFxKg IUPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX5WBlkMOoH+Hcw19y4Wgns//gOFa/5nVF4JE2IrOHP4JxycME1 vbeoS3Y2M7OZE3tuvN4oqOsTeAHfWZ8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyiA9f0uDfjNdFj1ER96PlIOV56SlyDUzuMq00CmCO3V8FjEo/aie+deqUVtHpi4S98dTY2sw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4b07:: with SMTP id v7mr12245481wrq.106.1557856422943; Tue, 14 May 2019 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.121.234.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u125sm8235784wme.15.2019.05.14.10.53.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 May 2019 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:53:40 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rcorder - wait for tap0 Message-ID: <20190514185340.0159358c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20190514182945.0ced24d4@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20190514182945.0ced24d4@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DC7E576402 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.74 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.959,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.234.121.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.77)[ip: (-9.33), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.21), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 17:53:46 -0000 On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:29:45 +0100 RW wrote: > On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > Despite large amounts of cofee and time I cannot grasp how to make > > this happen. > > > > What I want is > > > > Boot -> start openvpn/tap0 configured -> start named -> start jails > > > > Because the jails uses tap0 of course they cannot start before tap0 > > is up, but this is what happens in the default configuration. > > > > Surely this cannot be unique? How did you do it? > > > > Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets overwritten > > when updated. > > You need an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with something like: > > > # PROVIDE: vpnwait > # REQUIRE: openvpn > # BEFORE: now I come to think about it openvpn runs after LOGIN, so either you have to put up with the order named, openvpn, jails or rewrite the openvpn script. What I did was to allow DNS to pass directly to one well-known server so lookups could happen before openvpn started. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 19:02:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB31A1595A91 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 888AA80574; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.173.136]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLiPA-1h95ps1yDo-00Hg3V; Tue, 14 May 2019 21:02:04 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:02:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: hartzell@alerce.com Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS Message-Id: <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:DeGo8y16mLqY/wfbPQWJruk4+aZB2X2i26u3m3fynpu46JYgY2+ ms1bv1UeZZkmJnUZZIrb+gAx1DX0UuUU9eWEg4PPLh5Z2JwOmKlSNIAG8dOu3eGkNM5piBd zKHztmmiViEOQ7f0Sml4uyxU6gAmWpkkec27KwIB8N5ocXXz+026Taw4xktLytL0Xu6Q0U3 2T+pi9J8fo4NomWNiBZ4Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:y4fK/wQnGik=:AqD4rWROMkurPg6ItTqX3T 13ScelQpwA6/xf90NpPEb9eCjaW54zHoFQY9ueNUIzBOK2PKnjiuOQlToMAJJsnkg9TcpjOCc kRlfUkNIZ/B7Pf7sekLya4I16pnerH1B2mXDCelg6leqgUloHqz9DxBZ567sU5SEBatpqXPP+ 8ycJ403bjLMo39ILJzQdgdSeMwLDu/DQnaTn7oSIBbgrfncl8Kyb9e3Hvmc83laiU91SFn0yb rzGy9iTjcF73+7eyrjKFHquyo+QtmOa8WQorKQ9o0FwTq8btKyGsiU3ydv4igLHVX5+Yzn1fj uWAMwcco0Qbl3j+Yn6FLFH5jBVpeVdXdpguFXUzrNSo/dVARKJkgalW7OqlA09fxTqFsU67UE qOy7W+EC/sTu/+RTdoVdxxABaB9qiNJ3sIqCf0b6PFrt4fwz0+qgeblRTSpJ6xcgxj/xJiAcw XYMctDz0rlMnUBAFN9P27+mghA7Q22xOZxtpRLV32pRQBXDL+e9G1j4OPI6gBsS7O8CucUXtI 5AUwxxGKwABkw6aS/Zfyd+dmNmGRxrjDsg0Y08fN3+OPNX+lP8dj/xv6v8BJRVSLv2Y+XERpQ 6ftMln+QE4tMIhNXSJuzmjWfMwGKt0CaXCoJyOyj5YQzqQ8lpWkBQf2jNpIbvyscj5KLqVWyV 3tUTcpsMInOfDEnLYGItswue1xWjUdVsDHDyf2VgBew8iMS/3QHprOS8crMAkI8kDA1b7ZfEB bCF0bOybwpi4mpAcudVBBO63jtEkTCRdPYRHaGR22he7LtE/2OQH1GgXLoM= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 888AA80574 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.71 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[136.173.103.188.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.922,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.981,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.42)[ip: (1.70), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.50), asn: 8560(1.91), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 19:02:18 -0000 On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > Matthew Seaman writes: > > On 14/05/2019 03:35, George Hartzell wrote: > > > Can anyone speak to the current state of device names for nvme disks > > > on AWS using the FreeBSD 12 AMI's? Is name-stability an issue? If > > > so, is there a work-around? > > > > I don't know about device name stability in AWS instances, but if you > > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > > difference. With physical hardware it should be possible to eg. pop the > > disks out of one chassis and insert them into another in whatever order, > > and the system will still boot correctly. This sounds like the virtual > > equivalent of that. > > [...] > > Thanks for the response! > > Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what > device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, > poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up > referring to them by their UUID or .... In addition to what Matthew suggested, you could use UFS-IDs in case the disks are initialized with UFS. You can find more information here (at the bottom of the page): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html You'll find the explanation of "UFS label", "glabel label", and "UFS ID" there. A description of "gpart label" is provided here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_booting_with_uefi Always remember that the different kinds of label refer to specific things, like partitions or file systems. With ZFS of course, this is a lot easier, and the "ZFS label" doesn't just identify the disk device (or virtual equivalent) itself, but includes information about its function within a ZFS installation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 19:24:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042AB15964E1 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (griffon.alerce.com [206.125.171.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "griffon.alerce.com", Issuer "griffon.alerce.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94B2C80FC9; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from griffon.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE622842E; Tue, 14 May 2019 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by griffon.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BEA92842D; Tue, 14 May 2019 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2DBD9200E05A54; Tue, 14 May 2019 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23771.5612.105696.170743@alice.local> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 12:24:28 -0700 To: Polytropon Cc: hartzell@alerce.com, Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS In-Reply-To: <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 94B2C80FC9 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[alerce.com]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: griffon.alerce.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.13)[-0.132,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.77)[-0.771,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 25795(-0.10), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 19:24:32 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > Matthew Seaman writes: > > > [...] but if you > > > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > > > difference. > > > [...] > > Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what > > device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, > > poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up > > referring to them by their UUID or .... > > In addition to what Matthew suggested, you could use UFS-IDs > in case the disks are initialized with UFS. You can find more > information here (at the bottom of the page): > [...] Yes. As I mentioned in my response to Matthew, once I have some sort of filesystem/zpool on the device, it's straightforward (TMTOWTDI). The problem is being able to provision the system automatically without user intervention. In the Linux world, I can use e.g. Terraform to set up a pair of additional volumes and tell it to call them `/dev/sdy` and `/dev/sdz`. The Linux magic happens and I get pair of symlinks that I can use in my e.g. Ansible playbooks, that point to whatever the devices came up as when it booted. I build filesystems on the devices, add them via their UUID's to `/etc/fstab` and I'm off and running. I can't [seem to] do this in the FreeBSD world; even if I name the devices `/dev/nvme1` (the fast and big one) and `/dev/nvme2` (the slow and small one), there's no guarantee that they'll have those names when the machine boots. This is a weirdly AWS issue and their peace offering is to stash the requested device name in the device/controller/"hardware" and provide a tool that digs it out. I'm trying to figure out what I can do about it from FreeBSD. Perhaps there's already a solution. Perhaps the nvme driver needs to be extended to provide access to the magic AWS info stash and then something like Amazon Linux's `ebsnvme-id` can pry it out. g. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 19:39:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712761596859 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518DC81456 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 19:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1557862768; bh=eoSnro7WBOq++aWumZuhL0FmmSaF4LLST2+cWRVjqoY=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=3twt2EtnDXPlkg/nGiYLBV75xOBpfEybJmT4XQnPa/AOeljt3jjFi70ErF86GvS+B e+az70kBzi5qVUPO91LmHanTI6bhIiakTWTyBt5eZemaE4hTrJK4V0qgz4ptNSwCwB nHOoBQLd50NBgpbDQUR3z7EYynYDczc0l19suIYc= Subject: Re: rcorder - wait for tap0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190514182945.0ced24d4@gumby.homeunix.com> <20190514185340.0159358c@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: <63fe68c5-b85b-7d6d-a438-596ec8041f6b@nethead.se> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:39:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190514185340.0159358c@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 518DC81456 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nethead.se header.s=NETHEADSE header.b=3twt2Etn; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=nethead.se; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of peo@nethead.se designates 5.150.237.139 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=peo@nethead.se X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.150.237.139]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: vrt.nethead.se]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nethead.se:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nethead.se,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.06)[-0.062,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[asn: 8473(0.63), country: SE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8473, ipnet:5.150.192.0/18, country:SE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.942,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nethead.se:s=NETHEADSE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 19:39:32 -0000 On 2019-05-14 19:53, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:29:45 +0100 > RW wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:49:52 +0200 >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> >>> Despite large amounts of cofee and time I cannot grasp how to make >>> this happen. >>> >>> What I want is >>> >>> Boot -> start openvpn/tap0 configured -> start named -> start jails >>> >>> Because the jails uses tap0 of course they cannot start before tap0 >>> is up, but this is what happens in the default configuration. >>> >>> Surely this cannot be unique? How did you do it? >>> >>> Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets overwritten >>> when updated. >> >> You need an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with something like: >> >> >> # PROVIDE: vpnwait >> # REQUIRE: openvpn >> # BEFORE: > > now I come to think about it openvpn runs after LOGIN, so either you > have to put up with the order > > named, openvpn, jails > > or rewrite the openvpn script. > > What I did was to allow DNS to pass directly to one well-known server so > lookups could happen before openvpn started. Thank you for your comments. Thing is named dies if tap0 is not up when it starts and as this is a public named server it needs to be running after boot. Rewriting the provided rc scripts, they are part of the port and requires work when updated. So, the conlusion is, fiddle with the ule/rc.d/ and prepare to fix them after every update? No other way? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 20:08:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA6215972C5 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFE1582561 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.103.173.136]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MsqIi-1gXrJB07RY-00tCo7; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:08:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 22:08:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Per olof Ljungmark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rcorder - wait for tap0 Message-Id: <20190514220824.a4779bb2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <63fe68c5-b85b-7d6d-a438-596ec8041f6b@nethead.se> References: <20190514182945.0ced24d4@gumby.homeunix.com> <20190514185340.0159358c@gumby.homeunix.com> <63fe68c5-b85b-7d6d-a438-596ec8041f6b@nethead.se> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:R2+bkefJjuqbkrEVzE0tSL2Tow+nt3ONUZ3mlQ8O4Pq/i4Dwzbk g5QVjBXRPrYa1u+XRdrbyD+yzdmBdVtGo2IqZl+wjxqvUfc22uOh3kvrk+4xMUXzhiXqVKJ egVRG4cCcND3G9Vjy4iv7wfJEmWROjY+8W1bQv0xGmtYo1LYqcvUj7Rqe6aCk1+9RrxfKM1 3IX5EJW5qSxKqyxpDS3CA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:4BWKrZcGGts=:A1K5U7HH/oFPQoma3ycc0Q T7A8Mm5VtfTmxCF+36jI2S5Nw1ltBxd9i+9nb0q4FKJwGUVxiY6HqmP/e3+aXcDgzcwK31zZl iTPP0H8ndjnGNgp1kgusVr2sxqAEuncK5lbZrCo4SXsBwLBSOO/64JMQAZKPQBfeBKd7QxFsc 8CmaoVPAOafeKWd9aQFAj6dbnDAdadKqnrtmcsJRXQutfY5vFdDzFbfU7T24d+bpsijWz0LiH b+SH7aifw4tINJU63FTowolnwQ+VQCPVWTzPRsS0CDG8mHEKHgDTyTGDtuheABhdiPIoqxWdY bKFGLZMCRa00d+93Gp0U2ElfeY06JMrpPfa8n01g7IZwaaCoYlNoBfNTk4FTVJlc2hVRes1is 2qqZnjk1kPRxvk8EeTB3L0eX992fFEX47G5ZSogkTp70NDro2XNY/ezRfBKpUGpWXZ9Wy2/b8 Ok6w+R9aIqzpSTo5xHj8XaT/CVvbni/VUkjXS8l2b8LM+pKm2y9xIj8MrslCjSs0BiqVwii6Z ngtzUWhd5Ec85dMFklEb0k/BiOnTuNkLig6Todt+gKlLl+I0p6eeAPTgT8+SMwsmryWMPT+VM mCSvf6jNnzWr/ML9eRQ6vLgPpClPvwPBbZNZSZqwBbOP7Qf0ZwiNZ9KECPzlvd4k4zrOzozKy tV9MM1+Lur/c90zUmvB04U36wpv+YAEzxZqDZchv4uNkOAkzby/MnlIPqBic8aRDKtxkzGLqH tUXCw2hMAkH8Ebgmf+APWTtOW1wAMhJo2iyjBloaF7d6HAltJW341zED3GE= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DFE1582561 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[136.173.103.188.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.975,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.987,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.65)[ip: (2.86), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.50), asn: 8560(1.91), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:08:35 -0000 On Tue, 14 May 2019 21:39:26 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > On 2019-05-14 19:53, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:29:45 +0100 > > RW wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> > >>> Despite large amounts of cofee and time I cannot grasp how to make > >>> this happen. > >>> > >>> What I want is > >>> > >>> Boot -> start openvpn/tap0 configured -> start named -> start jails > >>> > >>> Because the jails uses tap0 of course they cannot start before tap0 > >>> is up, but this is what happens in the default configuration. > >>> > >>> Surely this cannot be unique? How did you do it? > >>> > >>> Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets overwritten > >>> when updated. > >> > >> You need an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with something like: > >> > >> > >> # PROVIDE: vpnwait > >> # REQUIRE: openvpn > >> # BEFORE: > > > > now I come to think about it openvpn runs after LOGIN, so either you > > have to put up with the order > > > > named, openvpn, jails > > > > or rewrite the openvpn script. > > > > What I did was to allow DNS to pass directly to one well-known server so > > lookups could happen before openvpn started. > > Thank you for your comments. > > Thing is named dies if tap0 is not up when it starts and as this is a > public named server it needs to be running after boot. > > Rewriting the provided rc scripts, they are part of the port and > requires work when updated. > > So, the conlusion is, fiddle with the ule/rc.d/ and prepare to fix them > after every update? No other way? There is another way, but it doesn't sound much better: You could use /etc/rc.local to implement the exact order in which you need to start the different services, without using their automatic startup (*_enable="YES" in combination with the /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts). Again, note that /etc/rc.local is not the _last_ thing executed at startup - other services might be started later. So if you need such a service to run _before_ something else, start it yourself from /etc/rc.local and prevent any further startup tries (or ignore the "service already running" messages). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 20:33:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5DD15980A0 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay2-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay2-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78F4A839BF for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=/YRDLNJkKscTnXY0HLSKjbtqowWwwL9pvWFaHvnY0YE=; b=MxvmJR/hw0Ie6nX3omscBRzDphO5XJmwonP09ebkgs/RCncHlbKew7wYMABCZLRWGCuxlUZjx4tCB d1EBVC736TOwdq3FWVlJuzYGPLWKfwIHrYzX6NO57GZr7DCvC40siyT2awbGmYvVSGtN7XdCWr2r66 leaquXYUPdQOL1nI= X-HalOne-Cookie: 7d8fc7d6fcce33a7b35e3d3bd926443ded8021ea X-HalOne-ID: 4c9d0593-7685-11e9-81c1-d0431ea8a290 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.166.11.253]) by mailrelay2.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 4c9d0593-7685-11e9-81c1-d0431ea8a290; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS From: Matthias Oestreicher To: hartzell@alerce.com, Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 22:17:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <23771.5612.105696.170743@alice.local> References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> <23771.5612.105696.170743@alice.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 78F4A839BF X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=MxvmJR/h X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.64)[-0.637,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.67)[0.670,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx2.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx3.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[183.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.38)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.09), asn: 51468(0.82), country: DK(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:33:45 -0000 Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2019, 12:24 -0700 schrieb George Hartzell: > Polytropon writes: > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > > Matthew Seaman writes: > > > > [...] but if you > > > > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > > > > difference. > > > > [...] > > > Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what > > > device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, > > > poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up > > > referring to them by their UUID or .... > > > > In addition to what Matthew suggested, you could use UFS-IDs > > in case the disks are initialized with UFS. You can find more > > information here (at the bottom of the page): > > [...] > > Yes. As I mentioned in my response to Matthew, once I have some sort > of filesystem/zpool on the device, it's straightforward (TMTOWTDI). > > The problem is being able to provision the system automatically > without user intervention. > > In the Linux world, I can use e.g. Terraform to set up a pair of > additional volumes and tell it to call them `/dev/sdy` and `/dev/sdz`. > The Linux magic happens and I get pair of symlinks that I can use in > my e.g. Ansible playbooks, that point to whatever the devices came up > as when it booted. I build filesystems on the devices, add them via > their UUID's to `/etc/fstab` and I'm off and running. > > I can't [seem to] do this in the FreeBSD world; even if I name the > devices `/dev/nvme1` (the fast and big one) and `/dev/nvme2` (the slow > and small one), there's no guarantee that they'll have those names > when the machine boots. > > This is a weirdly AWS issue and their peace offering is to stash the > requested device name in the device/controller/"hardware" and provide > a tool that digs it out. > > I'm trying to figure out what I can do about it from FreeBSD. Perhaps > there's already a solution. Perhaps the nvme driver needs to be > extended to provide access to the magic AWS info stash and then > something like Amazon Linux's `ebsnvme-id` can pry it out. > > g. Hei, I'm not familiar with Amazon's AWS, but if your only problem is shiftig device names for UFS filesystems, then on modern systems, GPT labels is the way to go. There has been a lot of confusion over the years, about the many ways to apply different types of labels to devices on FreeBSD, but really GEOM labels, UUIDs, etc, are only useful on old systems where there's no support for GPT. GPT labels are only applied to partitions, not whole drives, but they are extremely flexible. They can be applied and changed at any time, even on mounted filesystems. In comparison to GEOM labels and all other ID types, they will never be hidden if the devices original device name (like nvm0 or nvm1) is in use. At any time will 'gpart show -l' show the GPT labels you applied, and they can be used to manually mount and in /etc/fstab. I have never used any other labels for years and even disables all others in /boot/loader.conf kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable=0 kern.geom.label.gptid.enable=0 kern.geom.label.ufsid.enable=0 You can apply a GPT label with # gpart modify -l mylabel -i N /dev/nvm1 and then add something like the following to /etc/fstab /dev/gpt/mylabel / ufs rw 1 1 There is only a single limitation with GPT labels and that is they don't work when you use UFS journaling via GEOM, as the GPT label will be the same for e.g /dev/nvm0p1 and /dev/nvm0p1.journal. Another big plus is, they work with every partition type, freebsd-ufs, freebsd-boot, swap, EFI, freebsd-zfs... One label type for everything can avoid some headache imo. Hope that clears up some confusion. 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Message-ID: <23771.11429.855191.658934@alice.local> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:01:25 -0700 To: Matthias Oestreicher Cc: hartzell@alerce.com, Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS In-Reply-To: References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> <23771.5612.105696.170743@alice.local> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1B83D8489E X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.86 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[alerce.com]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: griffon.alerce.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.538,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[asn: 25795(-0.11), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:01:30 -0000 Matthias Oestreicher writes: > Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2019, 12:24 -0700 schrieb George Hartzell: > > Polytropon writes: > > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > > > Matthew Seaman writes: > > > > > [...] but if you > > > > > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > > > > > difference. > > > > > [...] > > > > Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what > > > > device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, > > > > poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up > > > > referring to them by their UUID or .... > > > > > > In addition to what Matthew suggested, you could use UFS-IDs > > > in case the disks are initialized with UFS. You can find more > > > information here (at the bottom of the page): > > > [...] > > > > Yes. As I mentioned in my response to Matthew, once I have some sort > > of filesystem/zpool on the device, it's straightforward (TMTOWTDI). > > > > The problem is being able to provision the system automatically > > without user intervention. > > [...] > Hei, > I'm not familiar with Amazon's AWS, but if your only problem is shiftig device > names for UFS filesystems, then on modern systems, GPT labels is the way to go. > [...] Yes, yes, and yes. I do appreciate all of the answers but I apparently haven't made clear the point of my question. I think that you've all explained ways that I can log in and set things up manually so that things work as they should for the rest of time. You (Matthias) suggested that I could just: > ``` > # gpart modify -l mylabel -i N /dev/nvm1 > ``` But how do I know which of the devices is the one that I'd like labeled 'mylabel' and which is the one that I'd like labeled 'blort'? Another way to explain my situation might be to ask how I can automate applying the labels. Imagine that in my automated creation of the instance, I asked for two additional devices, a big-slow one which I asked to be called `/dev/sdh` and a small-fast one that I asked to be called `/dev/sdz`. But when I boot, I find that I have two devices (in addition to the root device), `/dev/nvme1` and `/dev/nvme2`. There's no way to know which is the big-slow one that I wanted to call `/dev/sdh` and which is the small-fast `/dev/sdz`. In fact, if I reboot the machine, sometimes the big-slow one will be `/dev/nvme1` and sometimes it will be `/dev/nvme2`. Given that situation, how do you write an automated script that will label the big-slow one `backups` and the small-fast one `speedy`? In the Linux world, `ebsnvme-id` & `udev` rules create symlinks at boot time that link the names that I requested to whatever the device is currently named. That makes writing the script easy. We lack `ebsnvme-id` and our nvme driver doesn't seem to have any knowledge of AWS' tricksy trick. Or perhaps not and I've just missed out how we do it. Thanks (seriously) for all the answer, g. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 21:58:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B37F1599E3B for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 21:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rubina@flexitera.com) Received: from p3plsmtpout003.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpout003.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [208.109.80.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay-hosting.secureserver.net", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A06E886704 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rubina@flexitera.com) Received: from s132-148-147-90.secureserver.net ([132.148.147.90]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with ESMTP id QeqYhyvGzj48YQeqYhpdsh; Tue, 14 May 2019 14:20:26 -0700 x-originating-ip: 132.148.147.90 Received: from [185.253.99.59] (port=1660 helo=Dellefq4bs) by s132-148-147-90.secureserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hQemn-0005TY-0i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 May 2019 14:16:33 -0700 From: "Rubina" To: Subject: Aviation and Aerospace Industry Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 17:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <07f501d50a9a$4d7e93c0$e87bbb40$@flexitera.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AdUKmSlyvHMopB06Qw+L3wANkCNVkg== Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPbhbVaRopxyLvnlxDPyLiq6oO5/zenXeg9SBHugyDZfEiZENAJ1jTQSkRQapFJWXhTTgaUNr9hPNqn9BaMifVloWLsfcanPZ4zVqiA76KJA+CegC8CM 9MtS6sPm1OAiGs6vmlfyP4tBfSYV2jVhuvWkm/s2b2fxOBxl/mfMKH88246AV9ZOcW+YmXXEEiDm3xRJwtQcHlct73/oFESM6WM= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A06E886704 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.975,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[flexitera.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.43)[ipnet: 208.109.80.0/22(2.00), asn: 26496(0.21), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.985,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[53.80.109.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26496, ipnet:208.109.80.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[53.80.109.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 21:58:19 -0000 Hi, Would you be keen on an email contact list from Aviation and Aerospace Industry? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 14 22:43:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4B5159AD2B for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com (mail-wm1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::331]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 593A787E63; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id j187so616283wmj.1; Tue, 14 May 2019 15:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BatDypocr+MrnnG9FAYsBSUDBhheFdVtMzyo8sQ6jDs=; b=KImEERvhlTmM8kSmST3rGk+eII/upN74JPeTzaEeGsRpiGEJ1JDstPEhBEXHoVX5Kp 82kJHc0URx9QYrDLiIKcMvDJ1+O0FCeWUQcJIZKWCwePI2iifBenPbc70sF0HqFy7854 hqpj18aukqWIizMWYTJ3RkYI1MAPc6Vn7pO3vge4TaItJg0s8CPkslRrWpx9AyO/R67D DSCaB1lMIQ0Le+GzL3SSZTo03j6UPw4QGuW5D22DKCdfCaok7xwNWLjHSn1spPRnwSM2 ODIgHUD2MLpzJlwfyCsvfPj90bB1O9oh4UMRMpnqjQ6XzdwNlrU7tEo+wbGYnT2J7eaE 35cg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU+D4t53ckoKBlGFJAF+GOfGf2OL5bG8mhe6scTzEGQcOEs1/w6 dS5KExLcI8nyyV+1lSblTiy60uLPio4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw1hlZLZBGHdfYwkZVq0cerB+b/fAXafdUnqUHg8NfCyD9OiBaoH+wcNrlJldpJRMljOIrVng== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7518:: with SMTP id o24mr20489494wmc.42.1557873784909; Tue, 14 May 2019 15:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.121.234.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j190sm471350wmb.19.2019.05.14.15.43.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 May 2019 15:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:43:01 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: mandree@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rcorder - wait for tap0 Message-ID: <20190514234301.0f28c432@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20190514220824.a4779bb2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190514182945.0ced24d4@gumby.homeunix.com> <20190514185340.0159358c@gumby.homeunix.com> <63fe68c5-b85b-7d6d-a438-596ec8041f6b@nethead.se> <20190514220824.a4779bb2.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 593A787E63 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.71 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.944,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.234.121.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.75)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.21), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 22:43:08 -0000 On Tue, 14 May 2019 22:08:24 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 14 May 2019 21:39:26 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > On 2019-05-14 19:53, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:29:45 +0100 > > > RW wrote: > > > > > >> On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:49:52 +0200 > > >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > >> > > >>> Despite large amounts of cofee and time I cannot grasp how to > > >>> make this happen. > > >>> > > >>> What I want is > > >>> > > >>> Boot -> start openvpn/tap0 configured -> start named -> start > > >>> jails > > >>> > > >>> Because the jails uses tap0 of course they cannot start before > > >>> tap0 is up, but this is what happens in the default > > >>> configuration. > > >>> > > >>> Surely this cannot be unique? How did you do it? > > >>> > > >>> Preferrably without messing with rc.d scripts that gets > > >>> overwritten when updated. > > >> > > >> You need an rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d with something like: > > >> > > >> > > >> # PROVIDE: vpnwait > > >> # REQUIRE: openvpn > > >> # BEFORE: > > > > > > now I come to think about it openvpn runs after LOGIN, so either > > > you have to put up with the order > > > > > > named, openvpn, jails > > > > > > or rewrite the openvpn script. > > > > > > What I did was to allow DNS to pass directly to one well-known > > > server so lookups could happen before openvpn started. > > > > Thank you for your comments. > > > > Thing is named dies if tap0 is not up when it starts and as this is > > a public named server it needs to be running after boot. > > > > Rewriting the provided rc scripts, they are part of the port and > > requires work when updated. > > > > So, the conlusion is, fiddle with the ule/rc.d/ and prepare to fix > > them after every update? No other way? > > There is another way, but it doesn't sound much better: > > You could use /etc/rc.local to implement the exact order in > which you need to start the different services, without using > their automatic startup (*_enable="YES" in combination with > the /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ scripts). > A variant of that idea would be to set openvpn_enable=NO and run the installed openvpn script from a wrapper rc script using 'onestart' I've CCed the port maintainer just in case he's not aware of the issue. Starting openvpn that late is fine for a VPN server, but for a client it needs to run earlier. There are things that need internet access during boot and typically access is blocked by the firewall until the tun/tap interface comes up. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 15 03:46:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851DF15A752D for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDF86F920 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A012415A752C; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E65015A752B for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8DAC6F91F for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1557891999; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=10OXRUDEFHNR4Eyq8ltX2LHIR1U=; b=Xrf3n/ig9zZV9/JERWXYDRDTYq8Z9d5M9AKA+ENEpYiIlUAJqXm7K2ZI0F6FaBim /siZBZDb56kgJE6vdvEEWBX4SyeExDYImIoJWyNZY8V/oTAFO7HEWmDhoNxoNS2Q N9PFRQhxazomcszQ1GEO7XvWBcIiljt+y2qWksnD83iT1mTkv3WS1/7TLpkVgUAm vaJAEJHJnrbQMKXRtALw/ZsuQSCVtdkSl4vlFI2dcnOov/hAZqmsn30/m8QlaNGI 9d69v+aMWoQzpeMxKeDtmV/DyNZgfD8JFgVBqfgg/8tqpDyojhS5DF0n50OoHxdD KBrRJbFrXZRLstL9lAudMw==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=H7qZ+KQi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=E5NmQfObTbMA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=4mtN7A6VCJyemnFG11sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:11630] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id B7/53-46526-F9B8BDC5; Tue, 14 May 2019 23:46:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23771.35742.821723.945590@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:46:38 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: graphics chip/card question X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A8DAC6F91F X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=Xrf3n/ig; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.39 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; IP_SCORE(-2.74)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.53), asn: 36271(0.08), country: US(-0.06)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.rcn.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.537,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 03:46:48 -0000 What is the oldest Radeon HD chipset that runs under "drm-kmod"? I'm not looking for "should run", but reports of "this is running without problems on a system I manage/use". (I know HD 3300 and HD 4200 series use drm-legacy-kmod.) 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Not sure if this is what you are asking (I always find X on FreeBSD a little confusing)... I've got an HD4200 which run perfectly on 11.2 with in src DRM and xf86-video-ati. Interestingly I switched to an HD4250 (which should be more or less the same board, only with faster clock) and had to move to xf86-video-ati-legacy. bye av. 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ZombieLoad in Action In our demo, we show how an attacker can monitor the websites the victim is visiting despite using the privacy-protecting Tor browser in a virtual machine. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 15 07:46:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDCA15AE221 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) Received: from mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay1-1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.210.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68B6A77C8D for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@smormegpa.no) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smormegpa.no; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=zSorFy9PMOOKjctVurl8kQUOjc7f5IRa6zTB5jKxZ+w=; b=CZxLvtHBnpuuPgMZSNSpxTlH0N7OAO7gf9eje8Thb3laGGhWypOkvSzQijqf55QAdzpL/wGaiYufw +L9CdAl2kuzWfcRZtAp/XarcKSb76ec1TapFTnP0yz7j8Lc1shYFsLgqiXMmJ8llvqCrwT6CXX4weT A2ms1tpdI4lmu+LQ= X-HalOne-Cookie: b84738788f538056d6d324d7b3145f4c52af1d25 X-HalOne-ID: 768dc9bc-76e5-11e9-bc24-d0431ea8a283 Received: from picadelly.monsieur.mathieu (unknown [85.166.11.253]) by mailrelay1.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 768dc9bc-76e5-11e9-bc24-d0431ea8a283; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5917c50c94750782cb3a929d44b04bcce142ece2.camel@smormegpa.no> Subject: Re: Suggestions for working with unstable nvme dev names in AWS From: Matthias Oestreicher To: hartzell@alerce.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 09:46:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <23771.11429.855191.658934@alice.local> References: <23770.10599.687213.86492@alice.local> <08660a2a-489f-8172-22ee-47aeba315986@FreeBSD.org> <23770.58821.826610.399467@alice.local> <20190514210203.3d951fb8.freebsd@edvax.de> <23771.5612.105696.170743@alice.local> <23771.11429.855191.658934@alice.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 68B6A77C8D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=CZxLvtHB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.02)[-0.016,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.41)[-0.406,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.16)[0.161,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[182.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.36)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(1.05), asn: 51468(0.79), country: DK(-0.03)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:46:03 -0000 Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2019, 14:01 -0700 schrieb George Hartzell: > Matthias Oestreicher writes: > > Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2019, 12:24 -0700 schrieb George Hartzell: > > > Polytropon writes: > > > > On Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:01 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > > > > Matthew Seaman writes: > > > > > > [...] but if you > > > > > > are using ZFS, then shuffling the disks around should not make any > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > [...] > > > > > Yes, once I have them set up (ZFS or labeled), it doesn't matter what > > > > > device names they end up having. For now I just do the setup by hand, > > > > > poking around a bit. Same trick in the Linux world, you end up > > > > > referring to them by their UUID or .... > > > > > > > > In addition to what Matthew suggested, you could use UFS-IDs > > > > in case the disks are initialized with UFS. You can find more > > > > information here (at the bottom of the page): > > > > [...] > > > > > > Yes. As I mentioned in my response to Matthew, once I have some sort > > > of filesystem/zpool on the device, it's straightforward (TMTOWTDI). > > > > > > The problem is being able to provision the system automatically > > > without user intervention. > > > [...] > > Hei, > > I'm not familiar with Amazon's AWS, but if your only problem is shiftig device > > names for UFS filesystems, then on modern systems, GPT labels is the way to go. > > [...] > > Yes, yes, and yes. I do appreciate all of the answers but I > apparently haven't made clear the point of my question. I think that > you've all explained ways that I can log in and set things up manually > so that things work as they should for the rest of time. > > You (Matthias) suggested that I could just: > > > ``` > > # gpart modify -l mylabel -i N /dev/nvm1 > > ``` > > But how do I know which of the devices is the one that I'd like > labeled 'mylabel' and which is the one that I'd like labeled 'blort'? > > Another way to explain my situation might be to ask how I can automate > applying the labels. > > Imagine that in my automated creation of the instance, I asked for two > additional devices, a big-slow one which I asked to be called > `/dev/sdh` and a small-fast one that I asked to be called `/dev/sdz`. > > But when I boot, I find that I have two devices (in addition to the > root device), `/dev/nvme1` and `/dev/nvme2`. There's no way to know > which is the big-slow one that I wanted to call `/dev/sdh` and which > is the small-fast `/dev/sdz`. In fact, if I reboot the machine, > sometimes the big-slow one will be `/dev/nvme1` and sometimes it will > be `/dev/nvme2`. > > Given that situation, how do you write an automated script that will > label the big-slow one `backups` and the small-fast one `speedy`? > > In the Linux world, `ebsnvme-id` & `udev` rules create symlinks at > boot time that link the names that I requested to whatever the device > is currently named. That makes writing the script easy. > > We lack `ebsnvme-id` and our nvme driver doesn't seem to have any > knowledge of AWS' tricksy trick. Or perhaps not and I've just missed > out how we do it. > > Thanks (seriously) for all the answer, > > g. I have to admit that I'm still a bit unsure if I understand your problem. You are worried about, that the big-slow and the small-fast change their device names when the system boots... The GPT labels I suggested will survive a reboot, so no need to run a script each time the system boots, to reapply those labels to the right drive. What you only need to do once, is to determine which /dev/nvmN is the big-slow one and which the small-fast. Then you apply your labels, e.g.: # gpart modify -l big-slow -i 2 /dev/nvm1 # gpart modify -l small-fast -i 2 /dev/nvm0 (you could post the output from 'gpart show' so I can give a more precise example) Then you need to edit your /etc/fstab accordingly, e.g. (what I assume) /dev/gpt/small-fast / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/gpt/big-slow /data ufs rw 1 1 Then there's no need to create symlinks to the right device either. FreeBSD actually has devfs(8) to do that, but you don't need it here. If you for some reason need to write a script that automates such things, below are some examples for different use cases. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The best way for me to get the device name of a specific drive is: # camcontrol devlist | grep "^" | cut -d "(" -f2 | cut -d "," -f1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Or to do something with all attached nvmN drives drives=$( sysctl -n kern.disks | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -e '^nvm[[:digit:]]' | sort ) ...and then process $drives in a loop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Last but not least, an easy way to process associations between drive names and existing labels: associations=$( geom label status | awk '/ nvm[[:digit:]]/{ print $3, substr($1,5,20) }' | tr ' ' ':' ) This gives you a list of all