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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, context: poudriere-devel, recent ports, recent 12-STABLE, amd64 During a poudriere bulk run, fusefs-exfat fails to build with the following error: License GPLv2+ MSPAT needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined How can I overcome this permanently? thanks --=20 J. --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl108M8ACgkQs8o7QhFz NAUSpQ//T+7nqvWKyuyFE+9T2shRHnP+VAJNDbs8YSLFZgRAg63dR73kJR7eIMgd iDJtwRPpRBVV7st3jbIEoH9rNJsrS6YBHrqn2NTMru2eeerpBtfu7Q4O2bKBNb28 VzDIvBU6hoeyBO8NhmmlPw1RInxFEJTmRNLZRjFJnslyWyhFqX8PYlvtY2aZwnFu TvgymQhcCOJGz/cvlgFiNwkaEXpLKUBscMul53ARUyXDKREiC61rdR27ShaAM9np 0cwKGAHRN9ovPku69nRx5xmPltJKf+GsutmxJtCLjc+PIUR00o7EFWBf1mJJo/xI O1SKWYUQGfDGojrj7AxWR1c6LAFBD304CB4Xr+26+8/yip1uC/3pSrm1pzfYeoPC d2YkAXES8wuV8PHhZtLRaL8jjB1yrZlYIAzoldscy7YcJ7AZPq2DnO1jJNc0qUq0 Gyo3WB1qyEYJXWmde460SQmnb53xWlIlzEFjETBgrWyD5KU7Ea/apOuEBxv2R3P+ drCpURsztdHxde0Erd+Nrwjiki0NgrNNGaIP1R6qa3SVAC3WKEcmJUrMVcieSNM+ hlZrHooVeM52jaF1nA/WKvhmTW7Qgb2RNom+U4wJyS4e1AKgqzMDR1MkLS1ybQ3o cWK3P9JpThHcF8KS3DkcAD9nZCTJTpfQRcB5WIqa7eQmkgDN0qA= =LS7Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 14:26:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550B9F48DE for ; 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IP_SCORE(-0.16)[asn: 20473(-0.76), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[russerver.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[russerver.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.774,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[220.56.228.87.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:45.77.136.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:26:42 -0000 #less /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d LICENSES_ACCEPTED+=GPLv2+ MSPAT On 08.09.2019 15:15, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > context: poudriere-devel, recent ports, recent 12-STABLE, amd64 > > During a poudriere bulk run, fusefs-exfat fails to build with the > following > error: > > License GPLv2+ MSPAT needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined > > How can I overcome this permanently? > > thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 14:27:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61869F4960 for ; 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TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[russerver.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[russerver.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.778,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.17)[asn: 20473(-0.77), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:45.77.136.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:27:10 -0000 #less /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf LICENSES_ACCEPTED+=GPLv2+ MSPAT On 08.09.2019 15:15, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > context: poudriere-devel, recent ports, recent 12-STABLE, amd64 > > During a poudriere bulk run, fusefs-exfat fails to build with the > following > error: > > License GPLv2+ MSPAT needs confirmation, but BATCH is defined > > How can I overcome this permanently? > > thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 17:48:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2093DB8DD for ; 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ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[asn: 13868(0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[peak.org,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[94.16.55.207.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:207.55.0.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 17:48:22 -0000 I just realized that one calendar(1) entry seems to be notifying me in the wrong week. I have a calendar entry: September SatSecond Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) in my ~/calendar file to notify me on the second Saturday, but it notified me on the first Saturday. I get the following results: $ calendar -t 07-09-2019 Sep 7* Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) $ calendar -t 14-09-2019 $ September 7 is clearly the first Saturday, so why does it think that it is the second Saturday and the 14th is not? I also tried changing 'SatSecond' to 'Sat+2', but that gives the same result. Am I missing something obvious, or should I file a PR on this? Thanks for any suggestions. P.S. Look at shrewfaire.com if you want to know what Shrewsbury Fair is. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 18:14:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79C9DC260 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 18:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RKFt64H6z3PXJ for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 18:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [80.187.82.237] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i71iB-0005jJ-0R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 20:14:55 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id x88IEm5n002944 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:14:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id x88IEmDO002943 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:14:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:14:48 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VB (virtualbox-ose-5.2.22_2): Debian boots fine but does not show X11 display Message-ID: <20190908181448.GA2875@c720-r342378> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190905091959.GA439030@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20190905091959.GA439030@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r342378 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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It only shows a blinking > cursor, nothing else. I can switch with Alt-F1 to a login shell and > login there. It's difficult to do that because the screen jumps always > after 1-2 secs back to the tty7 (perhaps the phosh is up there). Same is > true for Alt-F2...F6. That's why I think on tty7 is someting running. > > Why I do not have any screen picture there. I learned with the help of Puri.sm folks how to stop the phosh # systemctl phosh stop after the difficult login process due to the jumping away from tty1. After stopping the phosh one can look around fine in the Debian guest. The phosh needs Gnome and a wayland-server as display and perhaps this is the problem. I tested in a bleeding edge CURRENT with ports from June virtualbox-ose-5.2.30 and this doesn't work either :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub Mientras haya voluntad de lucha habrá esperanza de vencer. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 19:43:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E5BDE9FA for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RMCz43zFz40jY for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 19:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i735n-00052M-Sn; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 21:43:23 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=smtp.boosten.org) by smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i735n-00056b-Kk; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 21:43:23 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A64184CEC7; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 21:43:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Oddity in calendar output From: freebsd@boosten.org In-Reply-To: <86ftl6rd7c.fsf@elm.localnet> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 21:43:21 +0200 Cc: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <86ftl6rd7c.fsf@elm.localnet> To: Carl Johnson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ccmsUULM c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=U9OQpdHBAAAA:8 a=8CdjIenJs_q5rRp-azgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=JjNKjOT4mCc3WEV1ObP8:22 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RMCz43zFz40jY X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=myselector]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.24)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-3.92), asn: 33915(-2.28), country: NL(0.01)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[168.42.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 19:43:30 -0000 > Op 8 sep. 2019, om 17:59 heeft Carl Johnson het = volgende geschreven: >=20 > I just realized that one calendar(1) entry seems to be notifying me in > the wrong week. I have a calendar entry:=20 > September SatSecond Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) > in my ~/calendar file to notify me on the second Saturday, but it > notified me on the first Saturday. I get the following results: > $ calendar -t 07-09-2019 > Sep 7* Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) > $ calendar -t 14-09-2019 > $ > September 7 is clearly the first Saturday, so why does it think that = it > is the second Saturday and the 14th is not? I also tried changing > 'SatSecond' to 'Sat+2', but that gives the same result. >=20 > Am I missing something obvious, or should I file a PR on this? Thanks > for any suggestions. It only seems to be wrong for this years September. Next year it=E2=80=99s= okay again. Also, if you change the month to October, it works like it = should. Peter= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 8 21:55:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EA1E485E for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 21:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter06.peak.org (filter06.peak.org [69.59.194.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RQ8H1VQTz4B4q for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by filter06.peak.org ({0c47b2c3-829a-4f18-b445-de68be8d048d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20190908215523497_0000 for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:55:23 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50FA981E7 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta01.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 5hH1_uzVyGuK for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-07.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-07.peak.org [207.55.17.97]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7759820D for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=elm.localnet) by elm.localnet with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i759Q-000CJ3-O3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:55:16 -0700 Received: (from carlj@localhost) by elm.localnet (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x88LtF75047308; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 14:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj) From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Oddity in calendar output References: <86ftl6rd7c.fsf@elm.localnet> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:55:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions's message of "Sun, 8 Sep 2019 21:43:21 +0200") Message-ID: <86zhjepi64.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RQ8H1VQTz4B4q X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=peak.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carlj@peak.org designates 69.59.194.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carlj@peak.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[peak.org,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[82.194.59.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:395796, ipnet:69.59.194.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 21:55:28 -0000 Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions writes: >> Op 8 sep. 2019, om 17:59 heeft Carl Johnson het volgend= e geschreven: >>=20 >> I just realized that one calendar(1) entry seems to be notifying me in >> the wrong week. I have a calendar entry:=20 >> September SatSecond Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >> in my ~/calendar file to notify me on the second Saturday, but it >> notified me on the first Saturday. I get the following results: >> $ calendar -t 07-09-2019 >> Sep 7* Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >> $ calendar -t 14-09-2019 >> $ >> September 7 is clearly the first Saturday, so why does it think that it >> is the second Saturday and the 14th is not? I also tried changing >> 'SatSecond' to 'Sat+2', but that gives the same result. >>=20 >> Am I missing something obvious, or should I file a PR on this? Thanks >> for any suggestions. > > It only seems to be wrong for this years September. Next year it=E2=80=99s > okay again. Also, if you change the month to October, it works like it > should. I did a little more checking and it also fails in September 2024. There are also similar problems in April and July of 2018. The common factor seems to be that all of those have Sunday as the first day of the month. I submitted it as PR 240427 [1]. Thanks for your reply. 1. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D240427 --=20 Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 00:46:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE984E8EDD for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RTy073zhz4JfM for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 00:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F66634 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); 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I just upgrade my mail > > server. > > > > During the upgrade I also upgrade all firmware for the hardware. > > > > And now I got a very serious issue with my server. > > > > Configuration : > > > > Dell PowerEdge R740Xd with H730P, 192 Go Ram, 2 SAS mechanical disk for the system, > > 2 SSD (in a zfs pool) for the mail index (cyrus), and 28 mechanical disk > > (in a second zfs pool) for the mailbox. > > > > The problem: > > > > After running few days the zfs pool with the 2 SSD are not responding. > > > > The system are perfectly working. > > > > The second zpool (mechanical disk) are perfectly working. > > > > I got zero log, zero message in the console or in dmesg. > > > > The arc_size are correct, it's around 70-75 %. > > > > The moment the zfs pool become not responding are random, not related to > > any activity (human or cron). > > > > The only option I pass for the kernel related to ZFS are vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift=12 and > > vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1. Without the second one the system no > > responding (under 11.2) when the server send (through zfs send) the data to another > > server. > > > > After the first problem I make a zfs upgrade, thinking maybe that's the > > problem so I'm not sure I can downgrade to 11.2 (and 11.2 are EOL) > > > > In your opinion : > > > > 1/ What should I do to try to find the problem ? > > > > 2/ Do you think that's a hardware/firmware problem or FreeBSD problem, > > the point is the second zpool are working perfectly so I'm thinking at > > some firmware/hardware/compatibility problem. > > > > > > Regards. > > looks like PR 236480 > > see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=236480 > So I can confirm, with this patch the server work fine without any hang or crash. Thanks folks. Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: Mon 09 Sep 2019 01:44:42 PM CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 11:55:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC92F6A7D for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Rmnj211zz3NDX for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from home.lan (unknown [77.109.105.33]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06DC11D4FC10; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 13:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 13:55:33 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Albert Shih Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Verry serious problem with ZFS & 12.0 Message-ID: <20190909115533.GM38457@home.lan> References: <20190828224547.GA1557@io.chezmoi.fr> <20190829083727.GC38457@home.lan> <20190909114552.GD13411@io.chezmoi.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dzI2QqkSBOAresgT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190909114552.GD13411@io.chezmoi.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Rmnj211zz3NDX X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.208.191.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[33.105.109.77.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=mvsS=XE=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; IP_SCORE(-3.02)[ip: (-8.95), ipnet: 193.191.192.0/19(-4.47), asn: 2611(-1.68), country: BE(-0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 11:55:38 -0000 --dzI2QqkSBOAresgT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:45:52PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote: > Le 29/08/2019 =C3=A0 10:37:28+0200, Julien Cigar a =C3=A9crit > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:45:47AM +0200, Albert Shih wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > After update 4 servers from 11.2 to 12.0 without any problem, wait few > > > weeks to see if everything work well, and it did. I just upgrade my m= ail > > > server. > > > > > > During the upgrade I also upgrade all firmware for the hardware. > > > > > > And now I got a very serious issue with my server. > > > > > > Configuration : > > > > > > Dell PowerEdge R740Xd with H730P, 192 Go Ram, 2 SAS mechanical disk= for the system, > > > 2 SSD (in a zfs pool) for the mail index (cyrus), and 28 mechanical= disk > > > (in a second zfs pool) for the mailbox. > > > > > > The problem: > > > > > > After running few days the zfs pool with the 2 SSD are not respondi= ng. > > > > > > The system are perfectly working. > > > > > > The second zpool (mechanical disk) are perfectly working. > > > > > > I got zero log, zero message in the console or in dmesg. > > > > > > The arc_size are correct, it's around 70-75 %. > > > > > > The moment the zfs pool become not responding are random, not relat= ed to > > > any activity (human or cron). > > > > > > The only option I pass for the kernel related to ZFS are vfs.zfs.mi= n_auto_ashift=3D12 and > > > vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D1. Without the second one the system no > > > responding (under 11.2) when the server send (through zfs send) the= data to another > > > server. > > > > > > After the first problem I make a zfs upgrade, thinking maybe that's= the > > > problem so I'm not sure I can downgrade to 11.2 (and 11.2 are EOL) > > > > > > In your opinion : > > > > > > 1/ What should I do to try to find the problem ? > > > > > > 2/ Do you think that's a hardware/firmware problem or FreeBSD probl= em, > > > the point is the second zpool are working perfectly so I'm thinking= at > > > some firmware/hardware/compatibility problem. > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > looks like PR 236480 > > > > see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D236480 > > >=20 > So I can confirm, with this patch the server work fine without any hang or > crash. Cool, it would be worth to add a comment to the PR (problem was observed with PostgreSQL only until now) >=20 > Thanks folks. >=20 > Regards >=20 > -- > Albert SHIH > Observatoire de Paris > xmpp: jas@obspm.fr > Heure local/Local time: > Mon 09 Sep 2019 01:44:42 PM CEST --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 15:20:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAFDD5204 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RsLf1369z461Y for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: pkg lock Message-Id: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:21:13 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RsLf1369z461Y X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.22)[ip: (-0.79), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.22), asn: 209(-0.05), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:20:59 -0000 Before I go off on a wild tear, a couple of quick questions. If I want to prevent pkg update from overwriting a package I built from = ports, I need to issue a pkg lock first, then if I want to = rebuild it with postmaster I pkg unlock , rebuild/update the port, = and then lock the port again, yes? And there is no one-step way to say via flags or something, unlock, = rebuild, then lock at once? Also, is there anyway to tell what has been installed via ports and what = has been installed via pkg? Or better, what has been installed with = custom options that differ from the pkg versions? --=20 WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIL LURKS IN THE HEART OF MEN? The Death of Rats looked up from the feast of potato. SQUEAK, he said. Death waved a hand dismissively. WELL, YES, OBVIOUSLY *ME*, he said. I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE. --The Truth From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 15:57:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEDBD6356 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Rt8W4SWXz48Ns for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1568044635; x=1570636635; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=8VIr/5RaepQqfF/bZ3M+GGY/CE/EqkAT3tdy25Y+2Bs=; b=MjDSnMGN2oh1m7bJgMIjEfox9MnL6lW/i8qnq62e6zfoBUIe8CauKtrhCRWgKYpgeN8fVnyZggoNrAdtBw+KGUwoAR9CQcYnk3QuvUQU2KBaVVb/6Liy/Kvog8D5nGgUDgVgsHIlR1rR2n1wuYSld4nxazw8VfjTQGTq7q3tBJ4= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYzEwMDAwMDE0MzdkZDEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:56:56 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:56:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i7M29-000Ckh-Ja; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:56:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:56:53 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "@lbutlr" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg lock Message-Id: <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> References: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Rt8W4SWXz48Ns X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=MjDSnMGN; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ip: (-0.47), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.26), asn: 7381(-0.19), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:57:16 -0000 On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:21:13 -0600 "@lbutlr" wrote: > Before I go off on a wild tear, a couple of quick questions. > > If I want to prevent pkg update from overwriting a package I built from > ports, I need to issue a pkg lock first, then if I want to rebuild > it with postmaster I pkg unlock , rebuild/update the port, and then > lock the port again, yes? Yes to all of that. It is perhaps worth mentioning the benefits of make missing to get a list of dependencies before compiling a port so that you can minimise what gets compiled by installing the dependencies first (make missing | xargs pkg install -A) or thereabouts. > And there is no one-step way to say via flags or something, unlock, > rebuild, then lock at once? You could write a script :) It would be a nice addition to ports make. > Also, is there anyway to tell what has been installed via ports and what > has been installed via pkg? Or better, what has been installed with > custom options that differ from the pkg versions? I rely on 'that which is locked came from ports'. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 16:05:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981AED6763 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46RtKs5bxgz48vj for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B52904E67B for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:05:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: pkg lock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <6ad37394-fceb-ccf0-e6ce-ea89a168b4b1@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:07:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RtKs5bxgz48vj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:05:22 -0000 On 2019-09-09 10:56, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:21:13 -0600 > "@lbutlr" wrote: > >> Before I go off on a wild tear, a couple of quick questions. >> >> If I want to prevent pkg update from overwriting a package I built from >> ports, I need to issue a pkg lock first, then if I want to rebuild >> it with postmaster I pkg unlock , rebuild/update the port, and then >> lock the port again, yes? > > Yes to all of that. > > It is perhaps worth mentioning the benefits of make missing to get > a list of dependencies before compiling a port so that you can minimise > what gets compiled by installing the dependencies first (make missing | > xargs pkg install -A) or thereabouts. > >> And there is no one-step way to say via flags or something, unlock, >> rebuild, then lock at once? > > You could write a script :) It would be a nice addition to ports > make. > >> Also, is there anyway to tell what has been installed via ports and what >> has been installed via pkg? Or better, what has been installed with >> custom options that differ from the pkg versions? > > I rely on 'that which is locked came from ports'. I made my life easier in that respect just by using poudriere for whatever I need to build with custom options (like mailman with postfix). Valeri > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 16:09:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F48D6A41 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RtR36YYGz49Lv for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: pkg lock Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:10:08 -0600 References: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> To: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> Message-Id: <8907C44D-15BE-4F1C-B2F9-8AADB4FFB1E4@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RtR36YYGz49Lv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.22)[ip: (-0.78), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.22), asn: 209(-0.05), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:09:52 -0000 On 9 Sep 2019, at 09:56, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > It is perhaps worth mentioning the benefits of make missing to get a = list of dependencies before compiling a port so that you can minimise = what gets compiled by installing the dependencies first (make missing | = xargs pkg install -A) or thereabouts. Thanks for this, I had no idea this existed. Will read some man pages. > I rely on 'that which is locked came from ports=E2=80=99. Yes, going forward that will work fine, but starting off=E2=80=A6 not so = much. --=20 Personal isn't the same as important. What sort of person could think like that? And it dawned on him that while Ankh in the past had had its share of evil rulers, and simply bad rulers, it had never yet come under the heel of a good ruler. That might be the most terrifying prospect of all. --Men at Arms From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 17:24:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1947D901D for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from blaine.gmane.org (195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no [195.159.176.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Rw5B3bWDz4GfB for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 17:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i7NOn-000WUX-89 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 19:24:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonesy Subject: Re: Oddity in calendar output Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 17:24:15 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <86ftl6rd7c.fsf@elm.localnet> <86zhjepi64.fsf@elm.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Rw5B3bWDz4GfB X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.11)[-0.106,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HOSTNAME_1(0.50)[195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[SPAM_TRAP_gmane@jonz.net,freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org]; DMARC_POLICY_REJECT(2.00)[jonz.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,reject]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2116, ipnet:195.159.0.0/16, country:NO]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[SPAM_TRAP_gmane@jonz.net,freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[ipnet: 195.159.0.0/16(-0.04), asn: 2116(0.53), country: NO(-0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 17:24:31 -0000 On Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:55:15 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions writes: >>> Op 8 sep. 2019, om 17:59 heeft Carl Johnson het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> I just realized that one calendar(1) entry seems to be notifying me in >>> the wrong week. I have a calendar entry: >>> September SatSecond Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >>> in my ~/calendar file to notify me on the second Saturday, but it >>> notified me on the first Saturday. I get the following results: >>> $ calendar -t 07-09-2019 >>> Sep 7* Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >>> $ calendar -t 14-09-2019 >>> $ >>> September 7 is clearly the first Saturday, so why does it think that it >>> is the second Saturday and the 14th is not? I also tried changing >>> 'SatSecond' to 'Sat+2', but that gives the same result. >>> >>> Am I missing something obvious, or should I file a PR on this? Thanks >>> for any suggestions. >> >> It only seems to be wrong for this years September. Next year it’s >> okay again. Also, if you change the month to October, it works like it >> should. > > I did a little more checking and it also fails in September 2024. There > are also similar problems in April and July of 2018. The common factor > seems to be that all of those have Sunday as the first day of the month. > I submitted it as PR 240427 [1]. > > Thanks for your reply. > > 1. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240427 Are you, like me, running your login on local (UTC +nn) time? That might be a "factor" in the bug --- in that UTC Sunday (the 1st) would occur on your Saturday. Just a think. :-) (But, your examle of "Shrewsbury Fair" means, maybe, not....) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ.net | linux 38.238N 104.547W | @ jonz.net | Jonesy | FreeBSD * Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 19:58:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF19DE637 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 19:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "outbound.ifdnrg.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46RzVQ5mJhz4XnB for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 19:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.0.210] (38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89Jvw7k079030 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:58:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host 38.156-30-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk [62.30.156.38] claimed to be [192.168.0.210] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Macdonald Subject: Poudriere tips Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:58:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46RzVQ5mJhz4XnB X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.87 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.200.98.0/23]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[22.98.200.193.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ifdnrg.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ifdnrg.com,quarantine]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-1.17)[ipnet: 193.200.98.0/23(-4.71), asn: 20860(-1.05), country: GB(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:193.200.98.0/23, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ifdnrg.com:s=ifdnrg-default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[ifdnrg.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 19:58:08 -0000 Hi, After many years of procrastination, i finally have a poudriere system setup It wasn't actually that hard to do, and i already wonder why i didn't do it ages ago. I'd be grateful if anyone in the group had any tips to share that i can benefit from, before learning the hard way? many thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- Virtual Servers from £50.00pm High specification Dedicated Servers from £150.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 20:27:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F47DFD23 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46S07x2QG0z4bL1 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.101.54]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MPGmZ-1hmqzn0huX-00PfZF; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:26:50 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 22:26:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg lock Message-Id: <20190909222647.6fbf2378.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> References: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nichr3Oi8rARboINvdy9ji/EKK+JcuNqazhttd1+oLkcBq9sIxQ x5Lcvth0APE5JBZ8hEVOUQzmbI6IVXFi4dqvMFito27EsjMXlrrBBPk9HpHqousEmOd8lvQ x99yfZCUgMOaS2G+LPPoFP6PEhov7Z+vq1wcJND1RehS46p0TqGXy3nf5RLdkteJVaXk/MX xeZgqfJx982DiV3FRiEqw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:zrfORo4cAu0=:Zd9um0LNxNhoHhyEvu1owu jJZnWoZ5XrGnBR/HOpoWl7vd9hmlFntnXH4HKvzGk76VDCJiEQgi/RfaqwaAZMwbgqi8SUjYg PPZP9+lGcqa7sZkomFehcmoJGQGjouCJmYUDGQoUjRkKRoe+d0F1rYS2l2nPELYnu6yqiTLu6 3ybl4n3Uc8pC9ZN7RkXwuSAo40vOm3DchZfVXgHR4y9IfFG0j/8Q6XGrqWo/2jkXy+ly3D0kU 1hr3IDMmcpibZUBm5sVSMxdUbiAPUVuRWswNtwl3MlfuAYlM/hSpwGgphCIADAVHdiBs6cQWX ofQPq18pBFEKMzqpWDKIUJpuhJQ/uctczTNZTJLailpPtQEyy3aR75jQQXAHhJwzxwEBb8i8c swFMBqCX+Ac1fqbcmDcWRDfGos7vIry36qlDiw+JxyhC4VqYUXEti1VY+0AZa57R2OUoqAtlD hjEXWpHj2PrgA2tAD7C6HagQySd3JzHwRg8l5O63E+F1FeFQ3npcEddz68Q9eeH1lVDGVazcw 2I8TQJz1PkEAJG9KapoPr2fBKK/MmmIXK5r+D8Vo39bFCZciQ6ESdR3ODvaauaDCuAdwRt8O6 OmiHVnQ/70193TNhvPqUNOyBdMX/ynnmEg0ZkiLeg+T7Lf6Ehr7MaD5C2BFjlCo9r/grGsc2U gW0UXvzntmqwFCD7rytItBimL6n74x0a/NtmoWEBzaYzWaHlkhng4cJe38t2p+kKdV4WQt4nz SNLilgcjkdfuh8Ee83txFQUDrnZ/rpFPUwd23DHQqiFaplMQE2XTb3/oHwHzRUH0pl0fR7Tk2 xvpb7aZv9Zj43G0SjLn0JgUVE9xxD1uEB73x0VQX7Lh/d8+e7s= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46S07x2QG0z4bL1 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(0.00)[74.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.20]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.10)[0.100,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.986,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.31)[ip: (-0.80), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.22), asn: 8560(2.16), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:27:10 -0000 On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:21:13 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > If I want to prevent pkg update from overwriting a package I built > from ports, I need to issue a pkg lock first, then if I want > to rebuild it with postmaster I pkg unlock , rebuild/update > the port, and then lock the port again, yes? That is the correct order. It also applies if you use pkg to update your software. Rule: "lock around update step". :-) > And there is no one-step way to say via flags or something, unlock, > rebuild, then lock at once? Not that I'm aware of. I (ab)use a custom Makefile for this task: 1. lock the custom ports 2. perform a pkg upgrade (typically uses monthly repository) 3. obtain current ports tree 4. unlock the custom ports 5. run "make deinstall" and "make reinstall" for custom ports 6. hope that everything went well ;-) This is on systems that have few (!) ports with custom options, and use pkg-based installing and updating (binary packages, no ports built for "normal" things). > Also, is there anyway to tell what has been installed via ports and > what has been installed via pkg? Or better, what has been installed > with custom options that differ from the pkg versions? Technically not, because if you install something using portmaster or plain "make install", what happens is that a "pkg-kind of package" is built, and _this_ package then is installed. So to pkg, it's just another package. However, you could compare the options used to build a specific port (standard values) and compare them to the options you used to build it (custom values). As far as I know, this task is not automated. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 20:31:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72C8E01BD for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46S0DN5tPqz4bWH for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.101.54]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MwPfX-1iO7qT0vn3-00sJbB; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:30:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 22:30:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: Aleksandr via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: pkg lock Message-Id: <20190909223043.7c8cfec5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8907C44D-15BE-4F1C-B2F9-8AADB4FFB1E4@kreme.com> References: <7C016F5C-FEA9-4EF0-9F5C-D0838A6CD2FF@kreme.com> <20190909165653.4806f5643d6b46cc8ee21550@sohara.org> <8907C44D-15BE-4F1C-B2F9-8AADB4FFB1E4@kreme.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XZ71zZxQZoPcYgl2k/T+MvY9PRq1cgi+0fyPA5iw4mD5HIVv8hs KQjraCphcDA4A2HVsEHHkRv6lNbCneb66SP9lT0oOgP/LjvTYP7Cu51Q1cksStEB6APSMTi aat9Gb7H/H6Og5nYR/UpeykGOq1lW/Ik3Vbo1cF0YzozeB9PT/3seYWh1UculmJ+7eje4M+ 84FnIU8gHnRvkdLPCZC8w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CgFwF9/gDXs=:uM6LODVJv/nkPeljaVNHvy z4ss8fdVNHHKZIY7O11SUyKJuE6vbNVpU3jsGrF87vW72xCO6+IL8jYNY0WWUAamjeYShIE7W hXCOVYzUpKqSBXi5/AyY+h2skOm+THxSNRzAWPwyvWqldDMmxwosFL4ngAlHdGGXe22+NGW/t Yr9v4XwBDjxr4soX1MKc0qIp7carcaz++flw4Zzg/1n0rCF8kXwypKVMtX5fQlMDRzcW5lJSf yc84kLwDEZnptvIVUdU2eSVvNEFFs734Ure7k9ai2RZGMEP6XCKDgxInTtTbE93gTCs2z3EZi IAtZCCN7lYUwRUgJXF/83E6k8o6QqVJNmTKQNGlL0vgc1aZZhEg1crSsaNdPR6srPSd6ROhcT iNLR0/4um1nWd2Y3QS/2Roj7lz9oAuLLw637m782l4bAqmrrZcNqblEtI8CfXvF5G/Cj65GHm ylzwXITirwnIey7Qx2Zs8xAb+GFy00krkp2CfYzphcRungUHm1tnLT7T1mKos7843nq1YFYdy 6xfY/+1RK5kkks+pWnoJwZurqTjsDMlGf6D3o9GN1eavgxCllLYST9l+hyWiEq3ieZEUXQsmG 8gNCQpPVWuKOQc4bmj/basTwpfzAgKGC2PQRVH1Jbmx8jMzAJ1xasVaWZzX6yJ5A9P8o88M+U CHPgkWAxzQuuj8Il/9ppZ5T1MnxDLhHIUzX/znTQcIQFlbBjX194FZrGNijIBOu9S++6nnqbi 3yfZ8duCmZEUoGeAG4zv7cbBmktaM6agGTvZlbqDp7UEvB+26THiME42ZIu85Ehu4s9DDtV79 t1WLuXFao6iENUPpyJMffYCEvb4TjEsRd7ETuTpzSVgY0cFyHg= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46S0DN5tPqz4bWH X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.75) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.64 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[54.101.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.70)[0.701,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.54)[ip: (0.32), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.22), asn: 8560(2.16), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 20:31:02 -0000 On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:10:08 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On 9 Sep 2019, at 09:56, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > It is perhaps worth mentioning the benefits of make missing to get > > a list of dependencies before compiling a port so that you can > > minimise what gets compiled by installing the dependencies first > > (make missing | xargs pkg install -A) or thereabouts. > > Thanks for this, I had no idea this existed. Will read some man pages. Of course "man 7 ports" is a good point to start. The "make missing | xargs pkg install" trick is known for a long time, and it was also used before pkg (i. e., with pkg_add), especially on systems where installing a binary package was faster than compiling stuff yourself. But note: It _might_ be possible that if you select an option in port A, its dependency port B might need a custom option, too, and additionally port C needs to be installed - nothing of that applies when you leave the default options intact. That's why it's important that you test your software before declaring "all done". ;-) > > I rely on 'that which is locked came from ports’. > > Yes, going forward that will work fine, but starting off… not so much. When you start, all options are the default options. Change something, remember to lock the package (!), and this approach works just right. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 9 22:01:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5968EE2F05 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 22:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter06.peak.org (filter06.peak.org [69.59.194.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46S2Dj5YxRz4jN7 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 22:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by filter06.peak.org ({0c47b2c3-829a-4f18-b445-de68be8d048d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20190909220121777_0000 for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:01:21 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D3298291 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta01.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id TnXEKphMLqvg for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849D198295 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet ([127.0.0.1] helo=elm.localnet) by elm.localnet with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i7Ril-000Lxi-I0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:01:15 -0700 Received: (from carlj@localhost) by elm.localnet (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x89M1EH5084425; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj) From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Oddity in calendar output References: <86ftl6rd7c.fsf@elm.localnet> <86zhjepi64.fsf@elm.localnet> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:01:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jonesy via freebsd-questions's message of "Mon, 9 Sep 2019 17:24:15 -0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <86imq1p1sl.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46S2Dj5YxRz4jN7 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=peak.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carlj@peak.org designates 69.59.194.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carlj@peak.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[peak.org,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[82.194.59.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:395796, ipnet:69.59.194.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 22:01:27 -0000 Jonesy via freebsd-questions writes: > On Sun, 08 Sep 2019 14:55:15 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: >> Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions writes: >>>> Op 8 sep. 2019, om 17:59 heeft Carl Johnson het volgende geschreven: >>>>=20 >>>> I just realized that one calendar(1) entry seems to be notifying me in >>>> the wrong week. I have a calendar entry:=20 >>>> September SatSecond Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >>>> in my ~/calendar file to notify me on the second Saturday, but it >>>> notified me on the first Saturday. I get the following results: >>>> $ calendar -t 07-09-2019 >>>> Sep 7* Shrewsbury Fair (2 days) >>>> $ calendar -t 14-09-2019 >>>> $ >>>> September 7 is clearly the first Saturday, so why does it think that it >>>> is the second Saturday and the 14th is not? I also tried changing >>>> 'SatSecond' to 'Sat+2', but that gives the same result. >>>>=20 >>>> Am I missing something obvious, or should I file a PR on this? Thanks >>>> for any suggestions. >>> >>> It only seems to be wrong for this years September. Next year it=E2=80= =99s >>> okay again. Also, if you change the month to October, it works like it >>> should. >> >> I did a little more checking and it also fails in September 2024. There >> are also similar problems in April and July of 2018. The common factor >> seems to be that all of those have Sunday as the first day of the month. >> I submitted it as PR 240427 [1]. >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> 1. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D240427 > > Are you, like me, running your login on local (UTC +nn) time? > That might be a "factor" in the bug --- in that UTC Sunday=20 > (the 1st) would occur on your Saturday. > Just a think. :-) The system clock is set to UTC but the /etc/localtime has my local time zone, so I use Pacific time here (current PDT). That sounds like a possibility for how this could happen, but I'm not sure how to find something like that. 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2019 22:46:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --YHh7Y2hdUlL34ixMcwGXj73otZuJyWNhV Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pGKfeCicIXLcwSwejtmFvCx2WK3e8GmyH"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9a3aecb9-704e-f195-9db7-526f11b75841@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Poudriere tips References: In-Reply-To: --pGKfeCicIXLcwSwejtmFvCx2WK3e8GmyH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/09/2019 20:58, Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions wrote: > After many years of procrastination, i finally have a poudriere system > setup That's some expert level procrastination there... > It wasn't actually that hard to do, and i already wonder why i didn't d= o > it ages ago. >=20 > I'd be grateful if anyone in the group had any tips to share that i can= > benefit from, before learning the hard way? You're using poudriere to build your own package repo, rather than eg. as a testing stage in port maintenance? Well: tips. Try these for size. * Create your ports tree based on your pre-existing checked out version of the ports in /usr/ports: ``` % poudriere ports -l PORTSTREE METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH default svn 2019-09-08 11:26:04 /usr/ports ``` (You don't have to use svn as the method -- any available method will wor= k) * Then create a link from /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d like so: ``` % ls -l /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/options lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Dec 24 2012 /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/options@ -> /var/db/ports ``` This means that instead of using `poudriere options` to set the build options for your local ports, you can just change to the appropriate directory under /usr/ports and `make config` * If you're building ports for a number of machines of varying versions, you'll need a poudriere jail for each major version of FreeBSD your machines are running, and that jail should be running a release version as old as (or older) than the earliest version you have on each major branch. * Contrary-wise, the version of the OS you run on your poudriere build box must be newer than (or at least as new as) the most modern poudriere jail you have. So a recent 12-STABLE machine could have poudriere jails for 12.0-RELEASE and 11.2-RELEASE, but not HEAD. Packages built on an 11.2 jail will work just fine on an 11.3 system, but not necessarily the converse: packages built in an 11.3 jail may not work properly on an 11.2 system(*). * Of course, if you're building packages for a single machine, then just make the poudriere jail the same version as your machine. * Use ccache. * ccache defaults to a 5GB maximum cache size. Depending on how many packages you're building this may not be enough. Keep an eye on your ccache stats over a few weeks of package building to see if enlarging the cache would be useful. * Use CHECK_CHANGED_OPTIONS=3Dverbose in poudriere.conf * Use CHECK_CHANGED_DEPS=3Dyes in poudriere.conf * Given the above, you will rarely need to do a 'poudriere bulk -c' -- the vast majority of the time poudriere will upgrade just the packages it needs to with an incremental 'poudriere bulk'. Even if there are big changes like the recent switch of the default version of python from 2.7 to 3.6. You may end up with some older (eg. python27) packages still in your repo, but that's generally not a problem. * One thing that will always trigger a complete rebuild of all packages (effectively a bulk -c) is applying any updates to the poudriere jail, even if those are eg. kernel security patches (which are irrelevant for jails). You don't need to be religious about patching your poudriere jails since they aren't an exposed attack surface. Unless, that is, the security patches apply to system libraries /and/ you are building software with static linkage. * Use ATOMIC_PACKAGE_REPOSITORY=3Dyes and COMMIT_PACKAGES_ON_FAILURE=3Dye= s so that you can still benefit from all the packages that succeeded in building even if some of them did fail. * Even if your poudriere jail is several patch-levels older than it might be, the ability to keep all your installed packages up to date easily will still pay dividends in helping you keep all your servers properly secured. * If you aren't building many (ie. less than about a thousand) packages, I find that enabling the display of packages still to be built in the poudriere web interface (HTML_TRACK_REMAINING=3Dyes in poudriere.conf) is= useful, and with the relatively small number of packages it doesn't have a significant effect on performance. * Watch out for packages that have BUILD/RUN depends on llvm*, openjdk or a number of other monster packages. Those can easily take as long to build as all of your other packages put together, and may suck up great gobs of system resources if you try and make them build quicker by allowing them to use multiple make jobs. Just be patient -- they'll get there in the end. Cheers, Matthew (*) As a general rule. 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I found this DigitalOcean tutorial very useful: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-poudriere-build-system-to-create-packages-for-your-freebsd-servers g. 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Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SGBq75grz41sw for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=lTNdnSuPv02qWa7kTTgDakJuq+VaKeUkVByZNWKmIyE=; b=XwoYf1A3a8amJXLPuqnpcWDzPw 0SMtRdVwfAJGbdwBBIyCQtrhsZbp7we3HHp4czXUn4avujRu3z2H7kMDUtbzhUg09xp9auFIPCCAX 9Lls36dsSz4ix5XLaHj/MUf682RSl6teOn3kjeNMBFZAsUktFwXt5F/rMGTwsN8U6MXA=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i7a8f-0007n6-KQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 14:00:33 +0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 14:00:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46SGBq75grz41sw X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=XwoYf1A3; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@mpeks.tomsk.su designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@mpeks.tomsk.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.06)[ip: (-9.63), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.81), asn: 20473(-0.83), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:00:36 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, I've noticed that the info utility has disappeared from the recent versions of FreeBSD. There are a lot of info files in /usr/local/share/info/, what should I read them with other than less ? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdd0oRAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0yk0H/imNMY+NwCxtS6AM8rtSC4qk 8P2vQabedJOJTIHkIlo4A8MP01eHkCewfiRRD7uFNCfhz1EIGL1tIW3xzb1/4235 XVLCsSM5mi/fay/aHX9m1H6ouhR26BaGxcvUO33yorsOZRuj1w/ExMLJvYgz+CsP YzlC2gkauFwkRWgG9ZQw2JSFffJ+s2LItAKakXd+BSlC3PZEMJdbxjywNyN0tlQB jyDUZprI3PTf/tVx4AFCcITwmm9wMgv57tZsndfGNtoRJEmJhTf1JQf1JZQpsc3H fKhz/WZkWgwlyk/B/z9dgUcILmGFMXLPuZ/j8WGe+auRQPiGHJ0FW0YGWsc0WU4= =K4y2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 10 07:27:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B23F4A5A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [144.76.30.122]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SGnx1RV8z4429 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 09:18:26 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail201809; t=1568099906; bh=FEhDhdYgS/VzdsTmZcuQpDzupuhgp/t7NOpm2N2NW4Q=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E2dwLx2rH2GsG9VTClrJu8ojCPNruoIH78dT6hP7sBORDjDSYTekr2630h/N3cTc/ MiKKIKu1B2s2bRNRzPIlZREAxiAZyJlrR7bI6UAFFuIN18GdfDPsYl8NUCpOS0WUUY p9vLrhw+uwuIkx0ianWG/+koi8+k4POoj4bSEisgr7Pwn1O9gyn8NRBUDzTFVEkJY0 vK3WMRhmGI/OPBUVAAIwPAuGoS9cQIUk5OGY8c19otjRr73LwwlhZ7ZWI+JNiTUMX/ 166vtOozAwtZ8d1cc4mmIqViz1TsFh6VMEGXCkg4sEMvmhpvu6Y3X0fEuz5h6LV8z3 L2Ber12I3qOZw== From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46SGnx1RV8z4429 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail201809 header.b=E2dwLx2r; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 144.76.30.122 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.947,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail201809]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:144.76.30.122]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:144.76.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.20)[ipnet: 144.76.0.0/16(2.80), asn: 24940(-1.78), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 07:27:34 -0000 On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 02:00:33PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I've noticed that the info utility has disappeared from the recent > versions of FreeBSD. > > There are a lot of info files in /usr/local/share/info/, what should I > read them with other than less ? >From /usr/src/UPDATING: 20150102: The GNU texinfo and GNU info pages have been removed. To be able to view GNU info pages please install texinfo from ports. -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 10 08:42:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21214F77CF for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SJSP04Xlz49dr for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.161.151]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 7bjEi9DI9WnTi7bjGicH1f; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:42:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:39:14 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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I install and use pinfo in both FreeBSD and NetBSD. 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Ph. - +91-11-47048012 Ext. no. 105 Skype : krati@exportgenius.in From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 10 16:38:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2F3DBDB4 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SW1n5x7Rz4fN4 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 16:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=Y6DGs57akMGNRiZIC3l4zARamm6hSQIRh3v4tKHj+V8=; b=ZcrCh4oL2mO0WsapE9du+Nsu2r zC73966sLOicvDVNOu92+Wuh6+1qEKwSXRkBFPsQHEqkAkDtE3pwFgUgaA0TAROA+znaZSOV/ga6H xMsBjRVk5nEzmeaIsYoUMaDZhnJHtTfqB6g+hEdEft3qfCPQPq18dFVxLgaDwOZCOu6g=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i7jA4-000Cjh-5T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:38:36 +0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:38:36 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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Indeed, a nice viewer. 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O haga click en el siguiente enlace para baja: unsubscribe from this list From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 00:59:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64A9EA03F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 00:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Sk7B6LJxz4GFt for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 00:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9460C61263 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 00:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x8B0pWA9055299 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:51:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x8B0pWpL055296 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:51:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:51:32 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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Before this thread I was (blissfully??) ignorant of info files, /usr/share/info/ having totally escaped my notice. As my workstation is kind of old, I still have texinfo, so I took a look at the make documentation. Some useful stuff. So my question [ at last :) ] Why remove the command and not reformat the files or make them a part of one or both ports? The files are relatively useless without texinfo or pinfo. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 02:14:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BA3EB5F0 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Slpl4Q7rz4JnV for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Ml72g-1iXL1L0n3k-00lTPW; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:14:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:14:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@safeport.com Cc: doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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As opposed to UNIX, info files are the typical way of delivering local documentation on Linux, or _have been_ (due to the significant change in documentation attitude)... > As my workstation is kind of old, I still have > texinfo, so I took a look at the make documentation. Older FreeBSD versions had /usr/bin/info as part of the base system. > Some useful stuff. So my > question [ at last :) ] Why remove the command and not reformat the files or > make them a part of one or both ports? The files are relatively useless without > texinfo or pinfo. It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed along with the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no longer part of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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However, if a > documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed along with > the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also > be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script > that simply echo "This tool is no longer part of FreeBSD, please install > this or that.", exit 0. :-) Yes, it's rather like omitting man and still providing man pages. Having said that I haven't looked at info files for years. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 09:07:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE6FF4B59 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SwyS5722z4fCM for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M4ahC-1i9dHf12vu-001ljw; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:07:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:07:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: MJ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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However, if a > > documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed along with > > the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also > > be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script > > that simply echo "This tool is no longer part of FreeBSD, please install > > this or that.", exit 0. :-) > > > Yes, it's rather like omitting man and still providing man pages. Exactly that was my impression. Strange thing, don't know if related: On a fresh install of FreeBSD 12.0 amd64, I installed something via pkg, and then used "man ", which complained that I need to install groff. I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning this because I've never seen this before... Additionally, vt shows another defect (next to the most prominent one, the inability to provide a readable console or the inability to display colors correctly): When browsing a manpage, "hickups" happen in the rendering, like this: DESCRIPTION For each operand that names a file of a type other than directory, ls displays its name as well as any requested, associated information. For ]]3; each operand that names a file of type directory, ls displays the names of files contained within that directory, as well as any requested, asso- ciated information. Note: This example is a made-up one (constructed from "man ls"), but I've seen something like this. Maybe vt cannot properly implement attribues like invers or bold? It looked like a line where linebreak went wrong, but page / line scrolling up and down made the error go away and re-appear... I have no idea what I've seen... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Finally I was able to reproduce the problem (which arise from time to time). The ping6 command failed either with the IPv6 address (or the name). The result is the same for an other address (like google) but at the same time I can reach these address from other machines. It is also possible to reach (with ping6) the external router of my organi= sation (passing few intermediate routers). What is curious however is that the command "traceroute6" succeed and then the command "ping6" works again. It sounds like a strange fragmentation problem. On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 20:07:24 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/09/2019 18:29, Pierre Dupond wrote: > > Sometime when I try to pass the command > > "ping6 www.freebsd.org" or "ping6 www.google.org" on 12.0-RELEASE-p7 > > the ping hangs. But after a moment (perhaps 5 minutes), > > if the command is tried again it works. > > > > Do you get the same effect if you ping an IP number directly? eg. > instead of > > ping6 www.freebsd.org > > try: > > ping6 2610:1c1:1:606c::50:15 > > > If there is a difference, that suggests the problem is not actually with > the pinging, but with the DNS lookup to find the AAAA record of the host > you want to ping. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > =2D- Gmail <76nemo76@gmx.ch> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 11:17:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB481F7A19 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM04-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-co1nam04olkn0801.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe4d::801]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46SzrR6qxNz3JYk for ; 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SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[outlook.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:17:13 -0000 --Sig_/W7Kg2O9iqUIuzGl54QEygI0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 samba version 4.8.12 When attempting to use the 'samba-tool', I always receive this error message: samba-tool Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/samba-tool", line 33, in from samba.netcmd.main import cmd_sambatool File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/__init__.py", line 28, in import ldb ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ldb.so: Undefined symbol "ldb_handler_copy" It doesn't make any difference what command options I use. Before I ask on a dedicated 'samba support forum', I thought I would first try and see if this was a localized FreeBSD problem. --=20 Carmel --Sig_/W7Kg2O9iqUIuzGl54QEygI0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl1416YACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQwjAf6A38gajIMRd1TZvrad4/BLXfomz+fvZdmWLCYzbZVXASUnPlErjQgqRXT cPaLm1ha/zeyRT9+KCn23mWQym7ExBrUhXwfMK+6XeKkQhjM7vBLGlchD/RD6rHO j1i4KwXvOCSOdjLGU9FMKo57ZB6sY+ObxmuUTF0mlsDn9+BRJ6iHXvEAa3mq87QV g5UObtmptFxL7hrOGy2Zz0wQe3L/M/oKdNQtf8UAIrLuN/pNGQTVu7GLnmk4Av16 8FjC6U1ghNqThLy/jyiSZqo1ii2ehwmMMKWZcMBgKNzEc+upU+SEItVqZ528ogU/ KFcnv1zqKsfiKjXZlJk+Sw5xNH01dA== =Ig41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/W7Kg2O9iqUIuzGl54QEygI0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 12:20:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDFFD2089 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46T1Dw4szCz3Ml4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x8BCJhmd067345 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:19:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Problem with "samba-tool" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Carmel NY References: From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:19:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T1Dw4szCz3Ml4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it has no SPF policy when checking 2.44.121.52) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.73)[ip: (-5.61), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-2.81), asn: 30722(-0.27), country: IT(0.03)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:20:01 -0000 On 2019-09-11 13:17, Carmel NY wrote: > FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 > samba version 4.8.12 > > When attempting to use the 'samba-tool', I always receive this error > message: > > samba-tool > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/samba-tool", line 33, in > from samba.netcmd.main import cmd_sambatool > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/__init__.py", line > 28, in import ldb > ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ldb.so: Undefined > symbol "ldb_handler_copy" > > It doesn't make any difference what command options I use. Before I ask > on a dedicated 'samba support forum', I thought I would first try and > see if this was a localized FreeBSD problem. > You are in good company. See: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239480 IIUIC from the comments, this won't be fixed. Upgrading to 4.10 will be the solution (and, in a few days or week, the only thing to do in any case, if you want a supported version), once 4.10 works properly. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 13:52:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1CED4C81 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46T3J42tFSz3ycL for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E5BB633C26; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:52:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:07:08 +0200") Message-ID: <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T3J42tFSz3ycL X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.74)[-0.736,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.880,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ip: (0.15), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.42), asn: 7922(-1.49), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:52:54 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On a fresh install of FreeBSD 12.0 amd64, I installed something via pkg, > and then used "man ", which complained that I need to install > groff. I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning > this because I've never seen this before... Historically, man(1) was essentially "nroff -man" under the covers. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 13:56:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3411D4DC8 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46T3Np0Pz6z3yk7; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AAA5133C26; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:56:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ping6 www.freebsd.org hangs References: <20190906192931.d5735e1602f98d6b9a2906c0@gmx.ch> <20190911122523.9b94cd45533279bf46592e94@gmx.ch> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:56:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190911122523.9b94cd45533279bf46592e94@gmx.ch> (Pierre Dupond's message of "Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:25:23 +0200") Message-ID: <44blvrhr6f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T3Np0Pz6z3yk7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.76)[-0.762,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.ch]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ip: (0.15), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.42), asn: 7922(-1.49), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:56:58 -0000 Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> writes: > Thanks for the tip. Finally I was able to reproduce the > problem (which arise from time to time). > > The ping6 command failed either with the IPv6 address (or > the name). The result is the same for an other address (like google) > but at the same time I can reach these address from other machines. > > It is also possible to reach (with ping6) the external router of my organisation > (passing few intermediate routers). > > What is curious however is that the command "traceroute6" succeed > and then the command "ping6" works again. > > It sounds like a strange fragmentation problem. By default traceroute uses UDP and ping uses ICMP. Could be a stateful firewall somewhere. You could test that by using ICMP with traceroute if it happens again. 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I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning > > this because I've never seen this before... > > Historically, man(1) was essentially "nroff -man" under the covers. Older FreeBSD versions came with /usr/bin/groff - similar problem as with info, except that _some_ manpages were available without installing 3rd party software (probably already processed and rendered, and in that form part of the default installation). I've also been using groff to turn man entries into PDF files. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 16:00:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27945D7F18 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46T67264bPz45jK for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 541C341AAC; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x8BG0CSG077532; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x8BG0C4A077529; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Polytropon cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning >>> this because I've never seen this before... >> >> Historically, man(1) was essentially "nroff -man" under the covers. > > Older FreeBSD versions came with /usr/bin/groff - similar problem > as with info, except that _some_ manpages were available without > installing 3rd party software (probably already processed and > rendered, and in that form part of the default installation). > > I've also been using groff to turn man entries into PDF files. :-) Now that's clever. I'll bet you can read and modify /etc/termcap :) >From another email in this thread: > It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They > are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation > file is still part of the OS, and installed along with the tools comprising > the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at > least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no > longer part of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) My thought on texinfo was that this was a bit different than when nslookup, dig, and bind were removed from the base. To the level I use drill it has the same syntax as dig, nslookup functions can [mostly??] be done with host. Bind is, well, bind. Here we remove the tool needed to read a set of files from the base but leave the files. I suspect there will be a lot of this when sendmail is removed from the base. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 16:47:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCB3D94E2 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46T79T6yhqz48ct for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811CDA2361; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IR4TcghSW7kz; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 133CAA221A; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x8BGlHgE014531 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:47:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? To: doug@fledge.watson.org Cc: Polytropon , Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:47:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T79T6yhqz48ct X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.13), asn: 16686(1.82), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.272,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.820,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:47:27 -0000 On 2019-09-11 18:00, doug@fledge.watson.org wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, Polytropon wrote: >> >> It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed >> along with the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no longer part >> of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) > > My thought on texinfo was that this was a bit different than when nslookup, dig, and bind were removed from the base. To the level I use drill it has the same syntax as dig, nslookup functions can > [mostly??] be done with host. Bind is, well, bind. Here we remove the tool needed to read a set of files from the base but leave the files. But, but... - surely there are no info files in base? They live in /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but just to make sure: $ ls /usr/share/info ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l 78 $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l 77 $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree ... > I suspect there will be a lot of this when sendmail is > removed from the base. Not sure what "this" means, but sendmail doesn't have an info file, and it's a pretty safe prediction that it never will. Seems perfectly reasonable to me that tools to read the info files from ports/packages are also in ports/packages, especially since there are multiple choices. And just to add to the list: emacs (C-h i) - which is what I personally use (since I use emacs as editor) - though actually I often prefer 'less'.:-) --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 16:48:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A0D95FA for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46T7C46SlMz48jX for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46T7C41zpMz1Pds for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <9006d11c-4e93-ee5b-26ef-3c62187b5d84@panix.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:48:20 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T7C46SlMz48jX X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.86)[ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-2.35), asn: 2033(-1.88), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:48:49 -0000 >> >From /usr/src/UPDATING: > > 20150102: >> The GNU texinfo and GNU info pages have been removed. >> To be able to view GNU info pages please install texinfo from ports. > >> Herbert > > Better than the user-unfriendly GNU info is pinfo, in FreeBSD ports category misc. As a workaround, you can also use Emacs. C-h i browses the info tree that comes with Emacs. With a numeric argument (eg C-u C-h i), it asks for the pathname of an info file. Handy if you use Emacs anyway. I agree that if the base system includes info files, it should include a reader. However, /usr/local/share/info is not part of the base system; that's ports/packages. My current system doesn't have /usr/share/info. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 17:16:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D2ADA432 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46T7pr19rJz4Bdw for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46T7pq1Ylwz1SZ0 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <99722d1a-1c00-3086-67c6-6efc172b84f6@panix.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:15:51 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T7pr19rJz4Bdw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.32)[ip: (-7.44), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-2.27), asn: 2033(-1.82), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:16:20 -0000 Ha! Mr. Hedeland and I posted the same thing at the same time. Great minds think alike. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 17:17:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1037DA569 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46T7rL1sTqz4Bkt for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D680A3872 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bFZWLzhGGYyc for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41415A3871 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x8BHHYbE014616 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:17:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> <9006d11c-4e93-ee5b-26ef-3c62187b5d84@panix.com> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <22b944ba-f383-3790-d21a-9721348cd366@hedeland.org> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 19:17:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9006d11c-4e93-ee5b-26ef-3c62187b5d84@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46T7rL1sTqz4Bkt X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.12), asn: 16686(1.81), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.65)[0.646,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.955,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:17:39 -0000 On 2019-09-11 18:48, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >>> >From /usr/src/UPDATING: >> >> 20150102: >>> The GNU texinfo and GNU info pages have been removed. >>> To be able to view GNU info pages please install texinfo from ports. >> >>> Herbert >> >> Better than the user-unfriendly GNU info is pinfo, in FreeBSD ports category misc. > > As a workaround, you can also use Emacs. C-h i browses the info tree that comes with Emacs. With a numeric argument (eg C-u C-h i), it asks for the pathname of an info file. Handy if you use Emacs > anyway. I don't agree with calling it a workaround - the info mode that you enter with C-h i is a full-fledged info viewer AFAICS, "advanced" rendering and lots of fancy info-specific navigation commands... And at least if emacs is installed from ports/packages, you get a menu based on *all* the files in /usr/local/share/info, not just those that come with emacs - actually the default list of directories is Info-directory-list is a variable defined in ‘info.el’. Its value is ("/usr/local/share/emacs/info/" "/usr/local/share/info/" "/usr/local/info/") Documentation: List of directories to search for Info documentation files. ... - I actually have a couple dozen files in /usr/local/info too, all from ports/packages. > I agree that if the base system includes info files, it should include a reader. However, /usr/local/share/info is not part of the base system; that's ports/packages. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =E2=97=99ontext: I upgraded a 12-stable system @r349995 to 12-release-p10 @r352201. Before upgrading, I checked to make sure FREEBSD_UPDATE was not present in /etc/src.conf. Then downloaded sources, make cleanworld buildworld buildker= nel installkernel mergemaster -p installworld mergemaster -Ui reboot then make check-old delete-old delete-old-libs reboot again Found that freebsd-update still not installed, so cd into /usr/src/usr.sbin/freebsd-update && make && make install freebsd-update was found but couldn't find any servers so copied /var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/freebsd-update.conf into /etc Now it finds the server to update from but it fails to get the metadata like this: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 12.0-RELEASE from update1.freebsd.org... do= ne. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 2 metadata files... failed. files and perms in /var/db/freebsd-update look like this: drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512B Sep 11 21:52 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 225B Aug 20 18:36 cae42a89f90be555b530a759cd400925bce03ed73ee78e665bef3fe5293e872f -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 130B Sep 11 21:52 filelist drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Sep 11 21:52 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Sep 11 21:52 patchlist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 800B Aug 20 18:36 pub.ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 75B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 75B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist_full -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 25B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist_tried -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 150B Sep 11 21:52 tINDEX.new -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Sep 11 21:52 tINDEX.present -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 113B Sep 11 21:52 tag.new What am I doing wrong? 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[210.10.137.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x5sm23912640pfn.149.2019.09.11.15.45.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Problem with "samba-tool" To: Andrea Venturoli , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Carmel NY References: From: MJ Message-ID: <0a6c140d-69e3-9473-701f-e8788d14917f@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:45:32 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TH7F3bGGz4Vcd X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=geXRKzET; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::529 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[254.137.10.210.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.44), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.72), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 22:46:02 -0000 On 11/09/2019 10:19 pm, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2019-09-11 13:17, Carmel NY wrote: >> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 >> samba version 4.8.12 >> >> When attempting to use the 'samba-tool', I always receive this error >> message: >> >> samba-tool >> Traceback (most recent call last): >>    File "/usr/local/bin/samba-tool", line 33, in >>      from samba.netcmd.main import cmd_sambatool >>    File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/__init__.py", line >> 28, in import ldb >> ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ldb.so: Undefined >> symbol "ldb_handler_copy" >> >> It doesn't make any difference what command options I use. Before I ask >> on a dedicated 'samba support forum', I thought I would first try and >> see if this was a localized FreeBSD problem. >> > > You are in good company. > See: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239480 LOL dependency hell. Free software is great but when you pull in so many libraries to build it, stuff like this does happen. 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[210.10.137.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g11sm20276567pgu.11.2019.09.11.15.50.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Problem with "samba-tool" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Carmel NY References: From: MJ Message-ID: <2bc74776-eec5-2804-5a1a-5f348555933b@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:49:35 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46THCw3nFPz4VlJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=eB+Zjphw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::432 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[254.137.10.210.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-7.93), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.72), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 22:50:06 -0000 On 11/09/2019 11:58 pm, Carmel NY wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:19:43 +0200, Andrea Venturoli stated: >> On 2019-09-11 13:17, Carmel NY wrote: >>> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 >>> samba version 4.8.12 >>> >>> When attempting to use the 'samba-tool', I always receive this error >>> message: >>> >>> samba-tool >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/local/bin/samba-tool", line 33, in >>> from samba.netcmd.main import cmd_sambatool >>> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/__init__.py", >>> line 28, in import ldb >>> ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ldb.so: Undefined >>> symbol "ldb_handler_copy" >>> >>> It doesn't make any difference what command options I use. Before I >>> ask on a dedicated 'samba support forum', I thought I would first >>> try and see if this was a localized FreeBSD problem. >>> >> >> You are in good company. >> See: >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239480 >> >> IIUIC from the comments, this won't be fixed. >> Upgrading to 4.10 will be the solution (and, in a few days or week, >> the only thing to do in any case, if you want a supported version), >> once 4.10 works properly. > > I see that Samba 4.11.0rc4 is available for download on the samba site. > It is not yet ready for a production machine though. Hopefully, the > final version will be released soon. How long it will take for that to > be incorporated into the FreeBSD ports system though, is an unknown. > Just drop a note to Timur asking. (see the bug report) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 00:51:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89057E503B for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 00:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46TKvf4N8wz4bVc for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 00:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MEVFi-1htO8O1kpm-00G2ef; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:51:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:51:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@fledge.watson.org Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning > >>> this because I've never seen this before... > >> > >> Historically, man(1) was essentially "nroff -man" under the covers. > > > > Older FreeBSD versions came with /usr/bin/groff - similar problem > > as with info, except that _some_ manpages were available without > > installing 3rd party software (probably already processed and > > rendered, and in that form part of the default installation). > > > > I've also been using groff to turn man entries into PDF files. :-) > > Now that's clever. There's probably a much efficienter way, but at least what I did (zcat | groff | ps2pdf) works. > I'll bet you can read and modify /etc/termcap :) Yes, and I've been doing this on FreeBSD 4 and 5, but I canoot remember for what particular purpose... :-) > From another email in this thread: > > > It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They > > are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation > > file is still part of the OS, and installed along with the tools comprising > > the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at > > least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no > > longer part of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) > > > My thought on texinfo was that this was a bit different than when nslookup, dig, > and bind were removed from the base. To the level I use drill it has the same > syntax as dig, nslookup functions can [mostly??] be done with host. Bind is, > well, bind. Correct - replacements (with a different name) were supplied at the same time the original bind-related tools were removed, and so there is no big problem. You can either use the new tools, or install the bind-based ones if you have scripts that rely on them. > Here we remove the tool needed to read a set of files from the base > but leave the files. Just that was the situation I found strange. > I suspect there will be a lot of this when sendmail is > removed from the base. And when base ("the OS") will be broken up into individual packages, maintained by pkg, which is also a package, and maybe the kernel also becomes a package... oh wait, why does this sound as if I'm talking about Linux?! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot I fixed this earlier this year on a 12-p7 system. 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They live in > /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but > just to make sure: > > $ ls /usr/share/info > ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory > $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l > 78 > $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l > 77 > $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' > /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database > $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir > Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. > > File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree > ... I think you have obtained this from a current FreeBSD version. Older versions still had *.info.gz files in /usr/share/info, and I may construct the following assumption: Lots of info-based documentation was part of GCC, and as this has been obsoleted by CLang/LLVM (is that the correct spelling?), the GCC info files have been removed. Other GNU-based tools also were rewritten for FreeBSD, and removed, so _if_ there are no more info files in the base system, the removal of the corresponding reader program is understandable. > Seems perfectly reasonable to me that tools to read the info files > from ports/packages are also in ports/packages, especially since there > are multiple choices. And just to add to the list: emacs (C-h i) - > which is what I personally use (since I use emacs as editor) - though > actually I often prefer 'less'.:-) It's also possible to the Midnight Commander: PF3 on a .info.gz file will make it readable (even though no highlighting as if it was a manpage). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 01:10:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3B0E5B93 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46TLKV4fZbz4cd5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MpD39-1iTGYZ323L-00qmHg; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:10:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:09:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fetching 2 metadata files... failed (freebsd-update) Message-Id: <20190912030959.9e0389bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190911211927.GI41568@bastion.zyxst.net> References: <20190911211927.GI41568@bastion.zyxst.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YiBaqqBxyOic+MQgbWKcGK0kdK9V7i5zf+2Lk4aH4AN3dFaXSrB jydWqV0XxSGBOOO2IFfkZc32jUeKC5wL/TG4he8M+ER0tDnuAOysgNwTKfj3ZNd5gLK/8rl uhl31O3wsPoUMdmzLHqtC4amgBTgZ3zt9iHpstTf6JS9lLdUe1naRUChyjUBIYTD2OcqFUZ qf7irpHYXSMrKIjlr5How== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:iitymizTULU=:QHzQsA+iXZArILAtCYiUNk C28HNVpotxHZilgosTnX/mPk9TyuXumDr3uNSKkYE6GMTEjw9cB2HG3SSKrjjzh0fGBOhqnXa ZwxKatLKUoxc+9Wq8NCJrFvXcBtTjudLOlBjj2qkgLvajoXq+G+cO8ScPANnEXbHosgz+u5nh u6pt3Y8Kiz7gXaaSSfelT8VeixxK8TfF+RxD+RWoPChp0dvO4vnVijZlb2Sdf37jJbHPYzHaX rhVN5xAO06Q0bDVaNULZsvvFWEXFjc6lKTydlu9b64vGvSLUddcWtD1Vq2BLcZRM13/Owe/Tf XTP32Wv1AmMpzXeAiVECnP3R2/aSKEtoXRPYRZ+X59lC/NE2J0Gg7JyeEOZnOYZbLNaFjE3NI 7XdRCPOkvJfwN4WupkTn2sRsHnj7LGu0tRCNvBZdSDCmshZDkk59dDE6Trc8ZRme78zfcf89H 5gYJmfqqT3rqUupYT7MvbS/eBgxkSWgYvR5Rkh6BOhH7SfcXg313Abvg6W1qaDszTsqRIVU41 EWqFozp+TqgrIGkLsuzHCDIRo8DHGFsvv3fOiYefYF798NduRXaAGDwddswelAkpL8SB2lN+h KeZl0FPUHxEQJm8GXrzUEonCRU7y89hSBQjHc1UVvvc5/rsrlekprFYmfoBAgF5MV2bZCd6mE LkOXM+zk3FI1mE+1zG9+gynIinHWky0DeGKwI4gGyutLlPAfqqBbARspnlYQhCqpYl46Su+Nc cVYk4NYB/G8VVybDey3U4nLQDrJp1UVilrWg7hAMto6ud1uXhNzpJuQ2rsbSbHJZAh9yt5ySc Qe5D87VtjNyiFokiTENx9m7WU0MAynrh37RmKf6FePmIHUn6vc= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TLKV4fZbz4cd5 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.135) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.08 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[241.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.43)[0.434,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.959,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[ip: (0.65), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.14), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:10:08 -0000 On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 22:19:27 +0100, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > ◙ontext: > > I upgraded a 12-stable system @r349995 to 12-release-p10 @r352201. > > Before upgrading, I checked to make sure FREEBSD_UPDATE was not present in > /etc/src.conf. Then downloaded sources, make cleanworld buildworld buildkernel > installkernel mergemaster -p installworld mergemaster -Ui reboot then make > check-old delete-old delete-old-libs reboot again That order sounds a bit off. Have a look at /usr/src/Makefile, at the comment header, which states: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 9. `make delete-old' # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) The world is to be installed in single-user mode. > Found that freebsd-update still not installed, so cd into > /usr/src/usr.sbin/freebsd-update && make && make install > > freebsd-update was found but couldn't find any servers so copied > /var/db/etcupdate/current/etc/freebsd-update.conf into /etc Do you also have /etc/freebsd-update.conf present? > Now it finds the server to update from but it fails to get the metadata like > this: > > # freebsd-update fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 12.0-RELEASE from update1.freebsd.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Fetching 2 metadata files... failed. Looks like the correct server. > files and perms in /var/db/freebsd-update look like this: > > drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512B Sep 11 21:52 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 225B Aug 20 18:36 > cae42a89f90be555b530a759cd400925bce03ed73ee78e665bef3fe5293e872f On my system, that entry is a symlink: f465c3739385890c221dff1a05e578c6cae0d0430e46996d319db7439f884336-rollback -> install.oDEqit Not sure if it's an automatically generated one. It does point to a directory with drwx------ permissions, there are several ones named install.. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 130B Sep 11 21:52 filelist > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Sep 11 21:52 files > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Sep 11 21:52 patchlist > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 800B Aug 20 18:36 pub.ssl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 75B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 75B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist_full > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 25B Sep 11 21:52 serverlist_tried > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 150B Sep 11 21:52 tINDEX.new > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0B Sep 11 21:52 tINDEX.present > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 113B Sep 11 21:52 tag.new Looks correct. > What am I doing wrong? There's plenty of space on the system. It's not a matter of free disk space. Something has gone wrong with your OS installation. I assume you didn't follow the correct order of steps, and somehow (I cannot imagine why), freebsd-update didn't get installed properly. You can verify correct structure and permissions with the mtree file at /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist - freebsd-update has an entry there, which suggests that after a clean install, that directory (/var/db/freebsd-update) is empty, and will be populated by the freebsd-update program itself. You could try this: # cd /var/db # mv freebsd-update freebsd-update.old # mkdir freebsd-update # chmod -R 0700 freebsd-update That should initialize the directory entry as if it was a clean installation. Also check that you have the configuration file in /etc as mentioned above. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 02:15:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9A2E705D for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46TMnH5zQJz4fsH for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.230.71]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M8yPu-1i5VML1jtO-006BLK; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:15:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:15:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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Neal wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 02:58:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > It's also possible to the Midnight Commander: PF3 on a .info.gz > > file will make it readable (even though no highlighting as if it > > was a manpage). > > Wait, that's weird. PF3 is supposed to back out of the current screen. > What kind of OS are we talking about? :) Oops, my old people mainframe heritage is showing! ;-) According to SAA, PF3 is exit, PF12 is cancel, PF1 is help - mostly universal to 3270- and 5250-based dialog applications, but also used on some DOS (not _that_ DOS, the other one) applications. And I think even AIX SMIT (the IBM UNIX) used it. Midnight Commander, _on FreeBSD_: As a descendant of the Norton Commander (when the name "Norton" was definitely _not_ a name you immediately associated with yellow vomit), it uses PF3 for viewing files. The MC has a set of "viewer helpers", for example, for images it will show EXIF information, for MP3 files ID3 tags, for manual pages it will render them - and it also works for info pages, so "mcview" could be used as "info replacement" (if you have the MC installed already). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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BTW pinfo is not without problems. If you have some info files with non-ascii characters in them (like mutt.info for example), they look most ugly. 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To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> <20190912025852.57f64546.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <218ac7d6-6098-0310-93a6-9fc77d578027@hedeland.org> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:39:42 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190912025852.57f64546.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TddH5QgGz4D4p X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.72)[ip: (2.01), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.12), asn: 16686(1.80), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.91)[0.906,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.991,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 12:39:48 -0000 On 2019-09-12 02:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:47:17 +0200, Per Hedeland wrote: >> But, but... - surely there are no info files in base? They live in >> /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but >> just to make sure: >> >> $ ls /usr/share/info >> ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory >> $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l >> 78 >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l >> 77 >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' >> /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database >> $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir >> Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. >> >> File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree >> ... > > I think you have obtained this from a current FreeBSD version. Correct, sorry for not mentioning that - it was 12.0-RELEASE (i.e. indeed current but not CURRENT:-). I now also checked 10.3-RELEASE - had ~20 files in /usr/share/info and not even the directory /usr/local/share/info, but quite a few files in /usr/local/info - and 11.1-RELEASE - had neither /usr/share/info nor /usr/local/share/info, but many files in /usr/local/info, so it seems no info files in base there either - and I wouldn't really call 11.1-RELEASE "current"... > Older versions still had *.info.gz files in /usr/share/info, > and I may construct the following assumption: Lots of info-based > documentation was part of GCC, and as this has been obsoleted by > CLang/LLVM (is that the correct spelling?), the GCC info files > have been removed. Other GNU-based tools also were rewritten for > FreeBSD, and removed, so _if_ there are no more info files in the > base system, the removal of the corresponding reader program is > understandable. Yes, per above the info files in base were gone already in 11.1-RELEASE (maybe even in 11.0-RELEASE) - I don't have a later 11.x to check, but I think it's unlikely that any of those have added info files in base. --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 16:14:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADD5D2F4F for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fripncoil@archeologyisrael.org) Received: from hmd-smtp04.lbcpodolsk.info (hmd-smtp04.lbcpodolsk.info [185.135.8.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46TkPG6RStz4RjG for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fripncoil@archeologyisrael.org) MIME-Version: 1.0 subject: The Challenged Child Conference reply-to: office@movementis.co.il To: From: Avraham F2 X-Int-ID: 0 X-Mailer-SID: 11683 X-Mailer-LID: 13845 X-Mailer-RecptId: 2379493 X-U-ID: 275 X-APP: SMTPAPP Message-ID: <0.0.2.2C3.1D569464BBE81A2.0@hmd-smtp04.lbcpodolsk.info> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 10:44:31 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TkPG6RStz4RjG X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.11 / 15.00]; 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They live in > >> /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but > >> just to make sure: > >> > >> $ ls /usr/share/info > >> ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory > >> $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l > >> 78 > >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l > >> 77 > >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' > >> /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database > >> $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir > >> Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. > >> > >> File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree > >> ... > > > > I think you have obtained this from a current FreeBSD version. > > Correct, sorry for not mentioning that - it was 12.0-RELEASE (i.e. > indeed current but not CURRENT:-). I now also checked 10.3-RELEASE - > had ~20 files in /usr/share/info and not even the directory > /usr/local/share/info, but quite a few files in /usr/local/info - and > 11.1-RELEASE - had neither /usr/share/info nor /usr/local/share/info, > but many files in /usr/local/info, so it seems no info files in base > there either - and I wouldn't really call 11.1-RELEASE "current"... You can easily differentiate: /usr/share/info is (correct: was) created by the OS and populated with info files corresponding to GNU software components. /usr/local/info and /usr/local/share/info (correct location) are created as needed by a port, and populated by whatever info files that port will install. On a fresh FreeBSD install, they typically do not exist; no file in /etc/mtree does contain an entry for a directory named "info" in the /usr/local subtree (whereas on older FreeBSD versions, those _were_ created as empty directories when the OS was installed). > > Older versions still had *.info.gz files in /usr/share/info, > > and I may construct the following assumption: Lots of info-based > > documentation was part of GCC, and as this has been obsoleted by > > CLang/LLVM (is that the correct spelling?), the GCC info files > > have been removed. Other GNU-based tools also were rewritten for > > FreeBSD, and removed, so _if_ there are no more info files in the > > base system, the removal of the corresponding reader program is > > understandable. > > Yes, per above the info files in base were gone already in > 11.1-RELEASE (maybe even in 11.0-RELEASE) - I don't have a later 11.x > to check, but I think it's unlikely that any of those have added info > files in base. Thanks for verifying this and adding a version number. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:16:45 -0000 On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, at 13:07, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > Anybody seen this before? Over ipmi, soon after ssh and other daemons=20= > start, with > normal text output, text is garbled: >=20 > Mounting late filesystems:. > Starting sendmail_submit. > Configuring vt: blanktime. > Performing sanity check on sshd configuration. > Starting sshd. > Starting cron. > Starting=20 > backgro=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3= =A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0=C3=A0 >=20 > is displayed on the console. >=20 > Immediately after shutting the system down, normal text resumes. I'm=20= > guessing it > is some misconfiguration of some lconsole or terminal settings, but I=20= > have no idea > what that might be? >=20 > A+ > Dave I'm no tty* expert but after vacation, I realised /etc/ttys has been mod= ified. diff /etc/ttys: @@ -13,10 +13,13 @@ ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 = off secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure # Serial terminals -ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on secure -ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on secure -ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure -ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure +# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. +# NB these are required for IPMI SoL to function after kernel loads +ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure +ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure +ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure +ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure I have no idea why somebody would have set these differently for 10.x vs= 12.0R but maybe=20 this will help future users. I did try editing this manually and then `pkill -HUP 1` in case that fix= ed it interactively, but no such luck, a reboot was required. 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I have a freebsd 12 system, UFS boots /ada0p2.  Mounts some ZFS partitions and I'm away. I add a new PCIe card with a SATA SSD, and it grabs ada0. I want to move my boot to the SSD, not least because the boot priority now favours it as ada0, and I had to manually boot ada1p2. There's not much on ada1p2 now, but I want the new ada0p2 to be smaller, so dd is not attractive. What's the easiest way to set ata0 to be much like ada0p2 was (given that I booted from ada1p2)? Ideally I'd like boot and swap etc set up as well, which I kinda did already with sade. I already had the issue with freebsd-install/MANIFTEST missing and did a basic install to ada0, but it seems a bit naff to unmount all my ZFS mountpoints just to tar across all the rest of it. Any pointers? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 22:01:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F9EDB505 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Tt514FFQz3KQh for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (ip68-1-57-197.pn.at.cox.net [68.1.57.197]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9AC211090 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 18:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.25] (D15.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C5AE11774C for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:00:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Moving boot disk - does not seem easy? 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RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[denninger.net]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:104.236.64.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.57.1.68.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:01:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050508020004060603060002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/12/2019 16:26, james wrote: > I had thought that this would be straightforward but it seems not. > > I have a freebsd 12 system, UFS boots /ada0p2.=C2=A0 Mounts some ZFS > partitions and I'm away. > > I add a new PCIe card with a SATA SSD, and it grabs ada0. > > I want to move my boot to the SSD, not least because the boot priority > now favours it as ada0, and I had to manually boot ada1p2. > > There's not much on ada1p2 now, but I want the new ada0p2 to be > smaller, so dd is not attractive. > > What's the easiest way to set ata0 to be much like ada0p2 was (given > that I booted from ada1p2)? > > Ideally I'd like boot and swap etc set up as well, which I kinda did > already with sade. > > I already had the issue with freebsd-install/MANIFTEST missing and did > a basic install to ada0, but it seems a bit naff to unmount all my ZFS > mountpoints just to tar across all the rest of it. > > Any pointers? > I've done this many times and it's very easy. Look at the old disk (e.g. "gpart ada1" and friends) so as to get the proper partition settings (e.g. sizes, etc) Use gpart to set up the NEW disk with the same basic configuration (slice types, etc.) -- it is, of course, ok to change the sizes -- it's just important that the data on the old disk fits. Use gpart bootcode to write the bootcode to the NEW drive on the correct partition. Mount each boot-related partition temporarily (e.g. on /mnt on the running system) and use whatever tool you prefer to copy it over since it's UFS.=C2=A0 You can also use dump and restore in a pipeline to do thi= s, which will maintain files with holes in them without expanding the holes.= Fix etc/fstab on the new disk, and boot/loader.conf if required (e.g. if the root is declared in there.)=C2=A0 Make sure you're doing this on the = NEW disk and not the currently-running one. Boot the new drive, it should come up. Do not use "dd" for this; that's a bad idea unless the two disks are EXACTLY the same geometry and size -- and even then it's not a great idea since you'll be copying empty blocks which is a waste of time. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms050508020004060603060002 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw FwYDVQQKDBBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDMRgwFgYDVQQLDA9DdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgQ0ExITAf BgNVBAMMGEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgMjAxNyBDQTAeFw0xNzA4MTcxNjQyMTdaFw0yNzA4 MTUxNjQyMTdaMHsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRAwDgYDVQQIDAdGbG9yaWRhMRkwFwYDVQQKDBBD 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To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> <20190912025852.57f64546.freebsd@edvax.de> <218ac7d6-6098-0310-93a6-9fc77d578027@hedeland.org> <20190912183952.c4873f5b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 00:58:28 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190912183952.c4873f5b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TvMF64xtz3N9n X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.69)[ip: (1.83), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.11), asn: 16686(1.84), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.90)[0.900,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.988,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:58:34 -0000 On 2019-09-12 18:39, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:39:42 +0200, Per Hedeland wrote: >> On 2019-09-12 02:58, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:47:17 +0200, Per Hedeland wrote: >>>> But, but... - surely there are no info files in base? They live in >>>> /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but >>>> just to make sure: >>>> >>>> $ ls /usr/share/info >>>> ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory >>>> $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l >>>> 78 >>>> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l >>>> 77 >>>> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' >>>> /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database >>>> $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir >>>> Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. >>>> >>>> File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree >>>> ... >>> >>> I think you have obtained this from a current FreeBSD version. >> >> Correct, sorry for not mentioning that - it was 12.0-RELEASE (i.e. >> indeed current but not CURRENT:-). I now also checked 10.3-RELEASE - >> had ~20 files in /usr/share/info and not even the directory >> /usr/local/share/info, but quite a few files in /usr/local/info - and >> 11.1-RELEASE - had neither /usr/share/info nor /usr/local/share/info, >> but many files in /usr/local/info, so it seems no info files in base >> there either - and I wouldn't really call 11.1-RELEASE "current"... > > You can easily differentiate: > > /usr/share/info is (correct: was) created by the OS and populated > with info files corresponding to GNU software components. > > /usr/local/info and /usr/local/share/info (correct location) are > created as needed by a port, and populated by whatever info files > that port will install. On a fresh FreeBSD install, they typically > do not exist; no file in /etc/mtree does contain an entry for a > directory named "info" in the /usr/local subtree (whereas on older > FreeBSD versions, those _were_ created as empty directories when > the OS was installed). Yes, of course - I'm not sure why you think this needs to be spelled out, perhaps because my report above wasn't very structured. To summarize: Out of 10.3-RELEASE, 11.1-RELEASE, and 12.0-RELEASE, only 10.3-RELEASE had any info files in base (in /usr/share/info). 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[59.101.201.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm25332348pfe.52.2019.09.12.16.01.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Problem with "samba-tool" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Carmel NY References: <0a6c140d-69e3-9473-701f-e8788d14917f@gmail.com> From: MJ Message-ID: <7fcada6d-ce08-6340-ecb9-fcef3d17bf17@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:01:30 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TvRD5S8zz3NVg X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=K2Tissjx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::434 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.06), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.71), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:02:01 -0000 On 12/09/2019 9:41 pm, Carmel NY wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:45:32 +1000, MJ stated: >> On 11/09/2019 10:19 pm, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >>> On 2019-09-11 13:17, Carmel NY wrote: >>>> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 >>>> samba version 4.8.12 >>>> >>>> When attempting to use the 'samba-tool', I always receive this error >>>> message: >>>> >>>> samba-tool >>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>    File "/usr/local/bin/samba-tool", line 33, in >>>>      from samba.netcmd.main import cmd_sambatool >>>>    File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/samba/__init__.py", >>>> line 28, in import ldb >>>> ImportError: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ldb.so: >>>> Undefined symbol "ldb_handler_copy" >>>> >>>> It doesn't make any difference what command options I use. Before I >>>> ask on a dedicated 'samba support forum', I thought I would first >>>> try and see if this was a localized FreeBSD problem. >>>> >>> >>> You are in good company. >>> See: >>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239480 >> >> LOL dependency hell. Free software is great but when you pull in so >> many libraries to build it, stuff like this does happen. > > I don't remember seeing any notice that 'samba-tool' was not functional > in the port description or any notice in the UPDATING file. If there > was, and I missed it, then I do apologize. That brings me to my next > point, why wasn't such a notice given? I see that I am not the only > person to have wasted time on this. > > The hard work that port maintainer's do for FreeBSD is certainly > appreciated. However, they also have an obligation to at least give > their product a "test drive" first before releasing it, and noting any > know problems. > > According to the samba site: Tuesday, September 17 2019 - Planned > release date for Samba 4.11.0. Hopefully, this can be modified to work > with FreeBSD in its entirety. > I totally see your point, but in this case the regression seems to have crept in. I'm not sure on the specifics but as per comment #8 in the bug, this is just an example of dependency hell. As I said, if you want a timeline on the fix, ask Timur. Cheers, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 23:33:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E65DDD66 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Tw7C27kJz3PrZ for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1568331190; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=p6Nc0RMBqnBHVyHL61wMiyVk5HM=; b=TB6csFkLrOo5zHETNfaPn4YGRKv4mp9JwbOA73rgZyK3xYVGANSi6CssJun0ccZ/ QTNbZhG41lyuUt0KgpSmlzpwC3ut7MvI0oFWhwjFNWYicCGtDP4eGG2aZn7Rs6ns JEs1fxUk3zIklou8ZVLgfcEfygh+1RXK/VCZS8VyWQMgcM26NVjKCY1moUQp2kcO w77gIhgVvZX2gKjd+q5LS2tM4QuKWINqwWEFNExdu6/N7N+ZLFM/IRooOPRP4Q9T lU5b7JvoLQqwjkTbdsUC2s8uDwRS7R1iR5u5u38gZY+XfbzlNm8c4SNS7wD4m8PZ t2+CvcH+dCHMcwB9NxEZKw==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=J5TUEzvS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=WeBIM9OnVwH3v4Sq48sA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:41582] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id A0/63-07507-5B5DA7D5; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:33:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <23930.54709.191581.19474@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:33:09 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: Karl Denninger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving boot disk - does not seem easy? In-Reply-To: <7a80152a-4271-51e7-0f8c-ff65228249c1@denninger.net> References: <03d6bfcb-aaad-c3a5-d2a6-b14f819113c2@mansionfamily.plus.com> <7a80152a-4271-51e7-0f8c-ff65228249c1@denninger.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.3 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Tw7C27kJz3PrZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=TB6csFkL; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.88 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.78)[ip: (-9.44), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(0.11), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:33:12 -0000 Karl Denninger writes: > On 9/12/2019 16:26, james wrote: > > I had thought that this would be straightforward but it seems not.= > > > > I have a freebsd 12 system, UFS boots /ada0p2.=A0 Mounts some ZFS > > partitions and I'm away. > > > > I add a new PCIe card with a SATA SSD, and it grabs ada0. > > > > I want to move my boot to the SSD, not least because the boot prio= rity > > now favours it as ada0, and I had to manually boot ada1p2. > > > > There's not much on ada1p2 now, but I want the new ada0p2 to be > > smaller, so dd is not attractive. > > > > What's the easiest way to set ata0 to be much like ada0p2 was (giv= en > > that I booted from ada1p2)=3F > > > > Ideally I'd like boot and swap etc set up as well, which I kinda d= id > > already with sade. > > > > I already had the issue with freebsd-install/MANIFTEST missing and= did > > a basic install to ada0, but it seems a bit naff to unmount all my= ZFS > > mountpoints just to tar across all the rest of it. > > > > Any pointers=3F > > > I've done this many times and it's very easy. > =20 > Look at the old disk (e.g. "gpart ada1" and friends) so as to get th= e > proper partition settings (e.g. sizes, etc) > =20 > Use gpart to set up the NEW disk with the same basic configuration > (slice types, etc.) -- it is, of course, ok to change the sizes -- > it's just important that the data on the old disk fits. =09Use gpart to label the new disk - call it, say, "root". =09 =09In fstab, replace however you currently mount / with: /dev/gpt/root=09/=09=09ufs=09=09rw=09=091=091 =09changing "ufs" to "zfs" if appropriate. =09Power down system; unhook old drive; start system. 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([2601:140:8400:4e61:fd20:231a:20d:4ba4]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m19sm13060310qke.22.2019.09.12.20.50.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jim Trigg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Trigg Subject: A modest hier proposal Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:50:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V1rN3wpmz45Z6 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CJGD21k1; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jktrigg@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jktrigg@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-2.88)[ip: (-9.40), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.71), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[jtrigg@huiekin.org,jktrigg@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[jtrigg@huiekin.org,jktrigg@gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 03:50:45 -0000 I recommend we reframe the directory structure. Since I'm sure I will get no support for merging the existing / and /usr trees to put all base items in / (/bin, /etc, /lib, /libexec, /share, /sbin), I'm suggesting the following: /usr/local -> /pkg Explicitly define /opt for third-party software that is not in packages/ports. Explicitly define /local for locally developed software that has not been packaged as a port/package. This leaves us with five areas: /{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software /usr/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software /pkg/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - ports/packages /opt/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - third-party software that is not in ports/packages /local {bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - locally developed software that has not yet been formalized into a port/package (with symlink from /usr/local?) Thanks, Jim Trigg From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 04:30:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E417BE475D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V2km6fg7z47Cj; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.234.134]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MEFjJ-1i0h8Z0ZZV-00ACue; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:30:50 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:30:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Dave Cottlehuber" Cc: freebsd-questions , Allan Jude Subject: Re: console shows =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0?= on startup soon after starting sshd & cron Message-Id: <20190913063046.85db4c25.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <707e3563-cc8e-487e-b4b5-069d78a2b984@www.fastmail.com> References: <707e3563-cc8e-487e-b4b5-069d78a2b984@www.fastmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:6ViBLlMbZxTeuRUzDSfu3V2VMK0F6KFdcCqhVpk3OxSsPMA0U2R Ty6qUXbTocB16yyn7JF91yGNtQyPNYCqcpiU3fY7PBPiOyLWxk+L3RHRE/FLGA1Wp2aJyPs OUeHLa/oScqrwB4trGTZ34lK0lS69bCGY0zfKngKMvr69m97gKJ4sYR+FLM1UG/xVGkDsRh tpYHvXnqoENlAH27mEPjQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:KXf8S/27eN4=:qXcm5lDZ25D0icLVHlCP2z lvBc6BFKnZhxoGu01TJr3UYZMwuDvB1H51kseI1byQT9RqqUD15p6Ugr4cmS/izKiUG+V0zK7 PmJuEBC1e9UVE3z4daQeiY6FzcvRxHFjKuejxfmvfBBEkCRv8ZeIFeBREc8oIWIiUPjHDs2Ue 0Tr+CFMTfoX8UgLhqo4OQc1RLFjbJiaR16ZFC+C0aAs2+g6QIUDNHuHBKKnmweOfWMycahZjj PPIJ1dWi95fTz612Q7R/kD3NK14xqq5Y77tx3aPEb8j4Ip+mIPtqydOoI4zMDDb3aie16F0dA vrBTP/1PT0CCfpw5x9l206gAsGDbjk/spJSGx5XVHwGcAWderMtH03/tvq5e9A+JoZgNyPpM5 SrQ1wm4kemkmsm0TEgN6WIDE6G9CPV1YqqYQHXjwGrgIxZBnvhFFcGsT/NawmY7mQqX1Lyzpa ImGQNE63ihFqnyTKJC9bKUFaJf4GxoNfQrmB0+Zcws+g+vZLWkbeCmg0TmmIT+j6mZEoZTPRc E1TaaYAnWPdUzGVSNvWoegEvtQo9su0/JX++YU+n2xSLaig42XfSVN972AkE+h4Nf/y7MbkQZ M1221MRPplQr4V/awsFOCCJKfgT1snlSu13K2sfkUl8SWBlXjsVCLYC7z6ZG+e6BFak4KGgGu s5qT001pY/iBBlgvnVzZgQtX1mTjRFqYWZl3mamlc10udGqWmByAkIwNLtmql8JSwUFb9myPz Dwy5w+4iWYwc8RsXUoIRrS3SEMo9kw54c1iGv5En3GaDQ3P2rw/xzAxZg7R/LUE4uJYUvfbsc sK1HsLwjKcxDWQovkbdBwe9T1FpT7xyPAcfZcyO8LXdhDKOm5/hTECMuoWqzcBaCThKnUYf50 6g+s5xcgkUkEbc2r8YdWymcT0A1ciHlu4lteRk8Mw= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V2km6fg7z47Cj X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.133) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.77 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[134.234.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.952,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.43)[ip: (1.36), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.16), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:30:58 -0000 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:16:19 +0000, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jul 2019, at 13:07, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > > Anybody seen this before? Over ipmi, soon after ssh and other daemons=20 > > start, with > > normal text output, text is garbled: > >=20 > > Mounting late filesystems:. > > Starting sendmail_submit. > > Configuring vt: blanktime. > > Performing sanity check on sshd configuration. > > Starting sshd. > > Starting cron. > > Starting=20 > > backgro=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0= =E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0=E0 > >=20 > > is displayed on the console. > >=20 > > Immediately after shutting the system down, normal text resumes. I'm=20 > > guessing it > > is some misconfiguration of some lconsole or terminal settings, but I=20 > > have no idea > > what that might be? > >=20 > > A+ > > Dave >=20 > I'm no tty* expert but after vacation, I realised /etc/ttys has been modi= fied. >=20 > diff /etc/ttys: >=20 > @@ -13,10 +13,13 @@ ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 o= ff secure > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > # Serial terminals > -ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on secure > -ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on secure > -ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > -ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > +# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > +# NB these are required for IPMI SoL to function after kernel loads > +ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > +ttyu1 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > +ttyu2 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure > +ttyu3 "/usr/libexec/getty 3wire" vt100 onifconsole secure >=20 > I have no idea why somebody would have set these differently for 10.x > vs 12.0R but maybe=20 > this will help future users. What FreeBSD version is this? For some time now, the type for the virtual consoles is "xterm", not "cons25" or "cons25l1". Example: ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure Maybe this file has somehow been excluded from an upgrade process? I don't have access to a 10.x system at the moment, but I think this change happened somewhere in 10.x due to sc -> vt... > I did try editing this manually and then `pkill -HUP 1` in case that > fixed it interactively, > but no such luck, a reboot was required. And it now works? With that (nondefault) /etc/ttys file? --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 04:51:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B7DE4EC6 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V39y6XyYz47tY for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.234.134]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MyseA-1iLVpK12v4-00vwd6; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:50:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:50:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Moving boot disk - does not seem easy? 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Use labels - you no longer have to deal with device names that could change depending on detection order (or other properties). As long as there is the appropriate boot code installed and you are referencing the boot partition's label, it will work, no matter if it is ada0p2 or ada2p2. Documentation and examples: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_g= pt --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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What I'm most interested in this proposal is how the migration would be handled and if the work required to make it happen is truly worth the effort. IMO there are a lot of problems for the project to solve that would be more beneficial to focus on. Although hier(7) could most certainly be improved in one way or another, I can't see the time spent benefiting the project as much as other areas would. Best regards, Richard Gallamore From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 05:16:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D98DE5991 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V3l10NqYz48wB for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.234.134]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M2w0K-1i7Y0h2w96-003M94; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:16:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 07:16:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jim Trigg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A modest hier proposal Message-Id: <20190913071606.00aa3d63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:LQLTCwn1sjqGAjkzw9XqmziKaDBqA2a9Pd9nzmEPX4+H5fsTBMC R8hSUm8IRNclm6XUZTBTJa1Tha++fyn0aDqAR3RwR2R+qy0R4P9n9gC75Yb5FSz5/ySddmn /hKDS5AY9l3YHQQEZS9GmS9b0/lh+DQiBb91vLAXb8l33HYop3ckcvMp3SxqbQlZsUJGnl3 FpbYkLsAoQCgoZI7t9v4A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:t2CE/5eopHg=:WK+ToHyB8r/Kyqj4ADFn78 9W4WrgsD+T++s14sjEBZhva2w5OlOn4Qv2Ej2LoZIPFhcJt5D54IG8l1I5RvI97GcUWICW4x8 Q4pDZa7F1p2fBw1qufOp0nriwrV0AR4IF/VIOcQ9tFi5hS91+Ttpf9j2za71zLKPvbC8VIudq 84wEUWAlM/RqepTB6d9gzDwEMA0/DhXv1Js/0bAb96kJk/nIT9OUO/jXjzdLBOSrv26TFWHTr z/K1izYWGUNe0fJwh6tUbLXXm/wHNWZ9G2FBARJJJxGfTgtUU8S/fIIyyowEJ4y/l3JZzMDqd dR9/T+qz0ZTXM7clWb0c9yUUTw5DoOzYk7DZwjXcJwXqIXtD+HTJBXa8KUpGg+Bla7jz56/+X SfAoikOdZoW1SJPnZLnvs+lR0nGuGloai+mmendj4BIc+o54JD0ERKogbaGtfbq3cIr+UOVGv yUniF/LBkXR1ZcM6bL/hYwgIKC0MTFcLataNOGfa8gi0BlWaOjVGiYPS2qt5ahvDPGgK+chsR 7l1onxSn3FMhpbzBCIzuBJOnb9G/WmObgi1beAtgD2D4wmTKn2AlLay9kdV2pMDyyqpNZ7Fae +BCDY2ZHPMT15Uijp6zen+Aodzg9gGy7WHTzy4BbNOVAOj7EDNWvVe49B+RZxDYFk0bwKsfkh ARHmkqrugGiqPh6k+f8IW9dMdbpd3DAC+4h/uhU9lkca7Vs8GPgcDzb725IGyucjNrmcWWvfB 0Y+FMyh7B9zSOXrl7pzU161QoFQCHmskjZYWK6kVD5e5k9tX+NskDxnKrVeoV03W/QdP/W+xr lTuNG90ZWzE/N/l6kgOt2Yu9v+krqS9dcIUFbr55VPfE8G2cBaF/xET5823EluC03QUtno4q9 XwAZPtVOpRd2XsrZUJK61jgyehlum87KuXfI7tnps= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V3l10NqYz48wB X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.86 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[134.234.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.935,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.53)[ip: (1.90), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.15), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:16:14 -0000 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:50:40 -0400, Jim Trigg wrote: > I recommend we reframe the directory structure. Since I'm sure I will > get no support for merging the existing / and /usr trees to put all base > items in / (/bin, /etc, /lib, /libexec, /share, /sbin), [...] The structure documented in "man 7 hier" covers both historical aspects and modern requirements. The status quo is a consensus of rules and considerations, as is the naming of things. > [...] I'm suggesting > the following: > > /usr/local -> /pkg > Explicitly define /opt for third-party software that is not in > packages/ports. Well, /opt is a Linuxism, and historically a Solarism, Solarisism, which is explicitely not covered by FreeBSD definitions. Some users use it to manage "non-ports 3rd party software" totally independently from the rest of the system. Sometimes, /opt/bin exists and is part of $PATH, and contains "call wrappers" for /opt/, as there is no structure defined for /opt - unlike for /usr/local, which more or less replicates the top level structire of the OS, to be used by 3rd party software installed from ports, e. g., /usr/bin /usr/local/bin -> program executables /usr/lib /usr/local/lib -> libraries /usr/libexec /usr/local/libexec -> daemons /usr/share /usr/local/share -> shared objects, data /etc /usr/local/etc -> configuration Programs are encouraged to use those directories. This is a recommendation not always followed... ;-) The difference between / and /usr/ is again a historical thing: Things that are required to get single-user mode up and running, and things that are required for everything that leads to more advanced modes, like multi-user, or graphical. Also partitioning (i. e., having parts of the OS on different partitions that were actually different disks) originates from a time where disk capacity was too low to hold the full OS, so you'd have / on one disk to get the OS up and running, and /usr/local on a different disk for all the 3rd party software the system runs - so the OS could get into a fully functional state without /usr/local being present. You could even swap different /usr/local disks (to revert to an older state or to experimentally try new software). Of course, disk size is not a concern today - as long as you don't enter the embedded space where you even want to have things separated by "is read-only" and "can be writte to", or "can be slow, is used only once" and "needs to be faster, is used all the time". Still using partitions (no matter of using ZFS or UFS) can have advantages, like preventing /tmp from filling the whole disk from some runaway process, or setting specific flags like noexec on a partition for user data like /home where you explicitely want to prevent the user from executing their own stuff. > Explicitly define /local for locally developed software that has not > been packaged as a port/package. That's what people tend to use /opt for, as it does basically let them do what they want - no rules. :-) Of course, it's also possible to use "user-locally developed" software from inside a user's home directory, where ~/bin is often present, and ~/.config is used by some programs. > This leaves us with five areas: > /{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software > /usr/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software > /pkg/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - ports/packages > /opt/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - third-party software that is not > in ports/packages > /local {bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - locally developed software > that has not yet been formalized into a port/package (with symlink from > /usr/local?) Interesting approach, but I think this is not going to happen. I know certain Linux distributions tried to suggest a unified layout for to be shared by all Linusi, but that didn't come true, likewise /Programs, /Data, /ConfigurationAndSettings, and so on. The general rule is: Everything under / belongs to the OS. 3rd party software that is managed by pkg is entirely in /usr/local, and if there should be anything else, it can go to /opt. /home is for users' stuff, site rules might apply. Do you remember PC-BSD (now TrueOS) and their packaging system? They did something comparable: Every program gets its own directory subtree with all stuff belonging to that program (plus its dependencies) in only that directory subtree, with a "caller script" in a directory that is in $PATH? I don't know if they still do that... In my opinion, things will stay as they currently are - not entirely perfect, but understandable and predictable as soon as you have successfully understood the rules and considerations. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 05:34:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BFFE5E14 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from remote.thehowies.com (remote.thehowies.com [50.197.91.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "remote.thehowies.com", Issuer "USERTrust RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V47s6cH3z49Z0 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@thehowies.com) Received: from PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::6437:d031:7477:6451]) by PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::6437:d031:7477:6451%10]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:32:55 -0700 From: John Howie To: Polytropon CC: Jim Trigg , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A modest hier proposal Thread-Topic: A modest hier proposal Thread-Index: AQHVaeZ4JPAaUNVk00GKGtZ6q2IvsacphjwA//+PVic= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <0B94A4D1-F767-4C1F-A1AA-DF37FCF1BEE3@thehowies.com> References: , <20190913071606.00aa3d63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190913071606.00aa3d63.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V47s6cH3z49Z0 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of john@thehowies.com has no SPF policy when checking 50.197.91.218) smtp.mailfrom=john@thehowies.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[thehowies.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.832,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.954,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:50.128.0.0/9, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.56)[ipnet: 50.128.0.0/9(3.85), asn: 7922(-1.01), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:34:19 -0000 I am all for merging /bin, /lib, /etc. with their /usr counterparts. The s= eparation was more about disk speeds, not disk size. You put the most-used = executables and files on / which was your fastest disk, and everything else= on other, slower disks. I do not even recall when /lib, /libexec, etc. made an appearance in *BSD,= and /sbin is relatively-speaking new, too, but all are not =93original=94.= That fact alone means we can and should adapt rather than burying ourselve= s in pseudo-historical orthodoxy. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2019, at 22:16, Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:50:40 -0400, Jim Trigg wrote: >> I recommend we reframe the directory structure. Since I'm sure I will=20 >> get no support for merging the existing / and /usr trees to put all base= =20 >> items in / (/bin, /etc, /lib, /libexec, /share, /sbin), [...] >=20 > The structure documented in "man 7 hier" covers both historical aspects > and modern requirements. The status quo is a consensus of rules and > considerations, as is the naming of things. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> [...] I'm suggesting=20 >> the following: >>=20 >> /usr/local -> /pkg >=20 >=20 >> Explicitly define /opt for third-party software that is not in=20 >> packages/ports. >=20 > Well, /opt is a Linuxism, and historically a Solarism, Solarisism, > which is explicitely not covered by FreeBSD definitions. Some users > use it to manage "non-ports 3rd party software" totally independently > from the rest of the system. Sometimes, /opt/bin exists and is part > of $PATH, and contains "call wrappers" for /opt/, as there > is no structure defined for /opt - unlike for /usr/local, which more > or less replicates the top level structire of the OS, to be used by > 3rd party software installed from ports, e. g., >=20 > /usr/bin /usr/local/bin -> program executables > /usr/lib /usr/local/lib -> libraries > /usr/libexec /usr/local/libexec -> daemons > /usr/share /usr/local/share -> shared objects, data > /etc /usr/local/etc -> configuration >=20 > Programs are encouraged to use those directories. This is a recommendatio= n > not always followed... ;-) >=20 > The difference between / and /usr/ is again a > historical thing: Things that are required to get single-user mode up > and running, and things that are required for everything that leads > to more advanced modes, like multi-user, or graphical. Also partitioning > (i. e., having parts of the OS on different partitions that were > actually different disks) originates from a time where disk capacity > was too low to hold the full OS, so you'd have / on one disk to get > the OS up and running, and /usr/local on a different disk for all the > 3rd party software the system runs - so the OS could get into a fully > functional state without /usr/local being present. You could even > swap different /usr/local disks (to revert to an older state or to > experimentally try new software). Of course, disk size is not a > concern today - as long as you don't enter the embedded space where > you even want to have things separated by "is read-only" and "can > be writte to", or "can be slow, is used only once" and "needs to > be faster, is used all the time". >=20 > Still using partitions (no matter of using ZFS or UFS) can have > advantages, like preventing /tmp from filling the whole disk from > some runaway process, or setting specific flags like noexec on a > partition for user data like /home where you explicitely want to > prevent the user from executing their own stuff. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Explicitly define /local for locally developed software that has not=20 >> been packaged as a port/package. >=20 > That's what people tend to use /opt for, as it does basically let > them do what they want - no rules. :-) >=20 > Of course, it's also possible to use "user-locally developed" software > from inside a user's home directory, where ~/bin is often present, and > ~/.config is used by some programs. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> This leaves us with five areas: >> /{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software >> /usr/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - base software >> /pkg/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - ports/packages >> /opt/{bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - third-party software that is not= =20 >> in ports/packages >> /local {bin,etc,lib,libexec,share,sbin} - locally developed software=20 >> that has not yet been formalized into a port/package (with symlink from= =20 >> /usr/local?) >=20 > Interesting approach, but I think this is not going to happen. I know > certain Linux distributions tried to suggest a unified layout for to > be shared by all Linusi, but that didn't come true, likewise /Programs, > /Data, /ConfigurationAndSettings, and so on. >=20 > The general rule is: Everything under / belongs to the OS. 3rd party > software that is managed by pkg is entirely in /usr/local, and if > there should be anything else, it can go to /opt. /home is for users' > stuff, site rules might apply. >=20 > Do you remember PC-BSD (now TrueOS) and their packaging system? They > did something comparable: Every program gets its own directory subtree > with all stuff belonging to that program (plus its dependencies) in > only that directory subtree, with a "caller script" in a directory > that is in $PATH? I don't know if they still do that... >=20 > In my opinion, things will stay as they currently are - not entirely > perfect, but understandable and predictable as soon as you have > successfully understood the rules and considerations. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 06:05:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A02BE6BD9 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V4qX5tK7z4CHt for ; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.05)[ip: (-1.02), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.15), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:05:14 -0000 On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:32:54 +0000, John Howie wrote: > I am all for merging /bin, /lib, /etc. with their /usr counterparts. > The separation was more about disk speeds, not disk size. You put the > most-used executables and files on / which was your fastest disk, and > everything else on other, slower disks. DIsk size and disk speed were related: The smaller the disk, the lower seek times. So of course disks were spped mattered were usually the system disks. Typical (early) installations of UNIX contained at least two disk units, sometimes of same type, sometimes not, and in such cases, the fastest disk was preferred as the system disk. > I do not even recall when /lib, /libexec, etc. made an appearance > in *BSD, and /sbin is relatively-speaking new, too, but all are not > “original”. Yes, I think that was a later invention, maybe not even in UNIX, but in BSD that derived from it... > That fact alone means we can and should adapt rather than burying > ourselves in pseudo-historical orthodoxy. I'm confident that simplification can be done, but as it has already been mentioned: for what "price" (work, time), and with what "plan" (how to change, expected problems and solutions), and of course if this _currently_ is a priority or not. Consistency and predictability should not be sacrificed on the altar of /allstuff. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 08:01:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11266EA418 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V7PV1vVXz4K8c for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1568361678; x=1570953678; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=BQaOdMXtUcBKFMQFdepY2NnoE4lMCDeP/3fcdsvQTQc=; b=nYTDHBT5rKNTD7jfouVd1Y/cljwoC8Bw+p757z6qi46xX6qJZRAm6wb/ZaUXUp9gjdBlduQLVMtfbn1woQy8YIkF2Ka9QzzQent7gwoCkSyD5OQE98IIjA031AelxtvT+xhwWyJ4Hk+Wr2pX8i4RxgcKTBsVLbgVs2fl+CmuUlU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYzMwMDAwMDAzOGM3NTIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.h.in.socketlabs.com (s1-b40f.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.180.15]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:01:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r4.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:01:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i8gVt-000NyA-Cf; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:01:05 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:01:05 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Jim Trigg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A modest hier proposal Message-Id: <20190913090105.07aaa44d3d8fd73329c999a6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V7PV1vVXz4K8c X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=nYTDHBT5; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.965,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.22)[ip: (-0.46), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.93), asn: 7381(0.70), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:01:19 -0000 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:50:40 -0400 Jim Trigg wrote: > I recommend we reframe the directory structure. Since I'm sure I will > get no support for merging the existing / and /usr trees to put all base > items in / (/bin, /etc, /lib, /libexec, /share, /sbin), There's a lot to be said for doing that, but I too doubt it will ever happen. Then again similarly drastic things have happened. > I'm suggesting the following: > > /usr/local -> /pkg That would make sense as part of eliminating /usr, otherwise I see no real point. > Explicitly define /opt for third-party software that is not in > packages/ports. There is no way to enforce or even encourage use of it, sure an empty hierarchy could be shipped but it wouldn't get used reliably. > Explicitly define /local for locally developed software that has not > been packaged as a port/package. Same problem. As sysadmin you are of course perfectly free to attempt to impose /local and /opt - I've seen similar things attempted with varying success. The most successful approach involved making them group maintained rather than root maintained. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 08:44:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BF2EB0C3 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46V8MJ2FWlz4Ltf for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=GlrYNqrH3ULQGUpMDVoN2oUESdfbh8HeElEk5pkivHY=; b=F2v8ZKuj2gb1I42+fDL0ikKC66 pdk/oGR87eJC1sZms20goVo4UvAJrZlgFEqg3hiZvg+UIbraIAvfiN8uwPcxcCcjNsCoU+O24bJaS WtpV3+ThYypzo0MOfb6m1e52rwhk/OUgiNoggRFGIxqdu05apLabK9u/I4lTToAdDm74=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i8hBl-000C7M-8h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:44:21 +0700 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:44:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <20190913084421.GA46171@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> <20190912040915.GA1267@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190912040915.GA1267@admin.sibptus.ru> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46V8MJ2FWlz4Ltf X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=F2v8ZKuj; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@mpeks.tomsk.su designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@mpeks.tomsk.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.09)[ip: (-9.69), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.84), asn: 20473(-0.87), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:44:29 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: > Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Better than the user-unfriendly GNU info is pinfo, in FreeBSD ports cat= egory misc. > >=20 > > I install and use pinfo in both FreeBSD and NetBSD. >=20 > BTW pinfo is not without problems. If you have some info files with > non-ascii characters in them (like mutt.info for example), they look > most ugly. E.g. the header (with dashes) >=20 > =E2=80=94 The Detailed Node Listing =E2=80=94 >=20 > becomes >=20 > M-b~@~T The Detailed Node Listing M-b~@~T Indeed, pinfo presents Unicode symbols as garbage. For example, many info pages contain glyphs like 0xe2 0x80 0x98 "LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" (U+2018) , 0xe2 0x80 0x99 "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" (U+2019) etc, and they are presented as garbage even in UTF-8 terminals like Mate Terminal or PuTTY. I've created a bug report: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D240553 let's see what comes out of it. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJde1blAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0KbIH/0qZPdcK16VPhGrvXw79O1yw iZr05MJQ54afZ9lCG6N6AICs8fon+yMhC13CpODY5n2PlBN3m1TMFVM9Lm+Opzi3 ccVtNF6vG4FnLfPxuMOAHONpTHnQmGTra0tJbaOYniRLzQdUEivxf8JM19yajxEa 37+ybmS5Robv18UM9+tLDLU3jkJLQ0FJwhY3Z9sJxsVCW2ztzz60BxLIN9rYdH62 W6jgFyc0bxMcC2ed9Um9IK4WNYJTnl0yG74XwHoxZ27t6O1SaxaUiOluEF+kLkei mGPUvk88avwbyfIxOjmRKCe9DZfpN7NEDVggueuARemB5MPjjQ/pt48PYQr6wGI= =mQc7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 13:36:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED77CF1D77 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VGrS1jzjz4f0t for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (ip68-1-57-197.pn.at.cox.net [68.1.57.197]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B7821112D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.25] (D15.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B58AB139350 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Moving boot disk - does not seem easy? 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <03d6bfcb-aaad-c3a5-d2a6-b14f819113c2@mansionfamily.plus.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <6bf3e5dd-24f8-0f06-031d-91724cf2c0a7@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:57:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <03d6bfcb-aaad-c3a5-d2a6-b14f819113c2@mansionfamily.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VRJ94jp0z43V0 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.06 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.844,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.49)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.80), asn: 6939(-3.19), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.63)[-0.628,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:57:46 -0000 On 9/12/19 2:26 PM, james wrote: > I had thought that this would be straightforward but it seems not. > > I have a freebsd 12 system, UFS boots /ada0p2.  Mounts some ZFS > partitions and I'm away. > > I add a new PCIe card with a SATA SSD, and it grabs ada0. > > I want to move my boot to the SSD, not least because the boot priority > now favours it as ada0, and I had to manually boot ada1p2. > > There's not much on ada1p2 now, but I want the new ada0p2 to be smaller, > so dd is not attractive. > > What's the easiest way to set ata0 to be much like ada0p2 was (given > that I booted from ada1p2)? > > Ideally I'd like boot and swap etc set up as well, which I kinda did > already with sade. > > I already had the issue with freebsd-install/MANIFTEST missing and did a > basic install to ada0, but it seems a bit naff to unmount all my ZFS > mountpoints just to tar across all the rest of it. > > Any pointers? I have been installing FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64 via BIOS, the FreeBSD installer, and "ZFS (Auto)" partitioning. The installer applies MBR partitioning to the system drive. If I then attempt to migrate such a system image to a different device via dd(1) (no size changes), I have found that the destination device may not boot. The problem is that /boot/loader.conf encodes device nodes in various variable names and/or values. The work-around is to use a FreeBSD installer rescue shell, live image, etc., edit /boot/loader.conf on the target system drive as required, and move aside /boot/zfs/zpool.cache on the target system drive. I believe a better solution is use UEFI, GPT partitioning, and GPT labels. If the labels can then used throughout the bootloader chain, this would eliminate the device node problems when moving system images between devices. While it should be possible to partition the new SSD, change partition sizes, create file systems, dump(8) and restore(8) boot and/or root, find and fix all necessary configuration files, etc., I would feel more confident backing up the old system drive, disconnecting the old system drive, disconnecting the data drives, installing the new system drive, doing a fresh install (using UEFI boot, GPT partitioning, and labels), updating FreeBSD, restoring the system drive, and reconnecting/ reconfiguring the data drives. 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Especially since it's when I'm creating a ports tree. There is no newer release to transition to yet. WARNING: FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 2 months. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 04:37:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7CDE810 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VfqZ24RTz4V9s for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=NqEwDNhjuiFZL3EJbWsosLaviySOWvwt81Wq+WJ+zGE=; b=OY/+dVOJZnEWhQNH1uX/fOjIiX SVnSfs2YO/X5J/KkOL8nCLvNsaBVcTsorriFlv2AeutTFYMbzpGUEMZpAWJzTDNJs5AUrbH4N/k+J 9VqXsiby7BouMH2le3V6sECuD8KJ/6GoPfYXGM9pFj8gZRERPRf+2oD03+6tXJFBWub8=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1i8zo8-000MIk-9I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:37:12 +0700 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:37:12 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <20190914043712.GA85701@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> <20190912040915.GA1267@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190913084421.GA46171@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190913084421.GA46171@admin.sibptus.ru> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VfqZ24RTz4V9s X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=OY/+dVOJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@mpeks.tomsk.su designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@mpeks.tomsk.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.10)[ip: (-9.70), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.85), asn: 20473(-0.89), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:37:15 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Victor Sudakov wrote: > >=20 > > BTW pinfo is not without problems. If you have some info files with > > non-ascii characters in them (like mutt.info for example), they look > > most ugly. E.g. the header (with dashes) > >=20 > > =E2=80=94 The Detailed Node Listing =E2=80=94 > >=20 > > becomes > >=20 > > M-b~@~T The Detailed Node Listing M-b~@~T >=20 > Indeed, pinfo presents Unicode symbols as garbage. For example, many > info pages contain glyphs like 0xe2 0x80 0x98 "LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" > (U+2018) , 0xe2 0x80 0x99 "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" (U+2019) etc, > and they are presented as garbage even in UTF-8 terminals like Mate > Terminal or PuTTY. >=20 > I've created a bug report: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D240553 > let's see what comes out of it. Incredible, fixed already. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdfG54AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0fz8H/i+KoRra4bLodVUYwlD24nfm VA/j9bxJL9u7av2N70zJqjvGQ+sIH37u9nRqHis1Nz/CzTArkuejJhKAF/VqZH5u w+MHApky0zJ6eeUu9FXDcOP3kUvS7L+dq2tjxFt9o3VS+yFHq5qPEtaSMjktjmo5 cXE6ba3/AE1SURjL0PpSVkbcOkytcj+By5lTQgBzlSKPk1rn07Ai0PQVIkdv/yuc IjAYV/1ljiDJqJJ7Pg5I4x7EcRljrameq100yvW0x/ZAUGv2WJDg9hk7T+BBNEGm Y4J85NZMaIWcvDUcsxNV2Py1JkH7k1i7pGirORwYWxyKgVVnEw8YmQnPkPwNku4= =da2m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 04:44:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA7EDEB62 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com (mail-pg1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vfzc5Fv5z4VWl for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mafsys1234@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id n190so16353328pgn.0 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 21:44:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ly8NH+Dcy968pMWNHRc/o3QyRL6aRjOwxpsUB3LkFTk=; b=XHxIPmSWHn4QdTF1zyE+xvtSAy6mDMNAuNjdJqcUaUlYXgPQWhsXEZQQpGO84F92JU +OEzm1tJZQNARxMxoMnm2PFNZ9DjVTLoMQv0Jdi2vIw4Hydb3h0DnH+o4eEC71QhxkEa byf7XrIsG89EMOsy4r5b6qbn8iTWUq5dRZKCneB9aonKuSwu2/6azH79i079GnTTkzLd SmPq4hd/RJakGpGhJjGX3czvsr3dVVk2guFRPc7Ypc+COk3drKOsMk3f3JGOIvkFdrBz QoM9pqJ6M2f/PiqMuzAy3Vx7c8gmA4HHN514r7CD4Eoo3Lgzeq3KfsdIxjlbL10DluDG 16Cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ly8NH+Dcy968pMWNHRc/o3QyRL6aRjOwxpsUB3LkFTk=; b=TqnTCvWnWlXGf2NIw7w/jy1o7bXIKIjB9g8MQC0j1A/gml6KyvpqGPT7VsUFBGHY/l hTTIKCTZCjV+fyZxi0GIzrdFmzrUsvikWGFd4Zw0wt0sJBSRIR7MQQkHinokdWLr2P+b dptoefzbOpfSAID/3hxBay2THu31bBS1+a41sfK5GOsdBwgYNstLMtRk2sgU7a1oDmj0 apYDWkBOSZ5Ct8fynS7GPHXcpleiu2c6J05QUvNT8cfem6hK8pW/I/TflDCOtagpUliK WOZwe5vJ/ensLIc/1FtcJuZjVlAtdFCiFGWSY+9C4GG80H7qsaOTBsQQt5Ii6MHtQoKi po1g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUjPJ6axhnz+8cLnAp3v401XjT+Nj6b+cTE7G1jCjU/2xk3imL2 BYwkSIe2gsJWBshqkNJCGSiSkAB/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz4AFHXAgTLqEvs3NOYGP8vsmMwFDq5+AXXAMKT5qsU/MOFhIp4SmDROyhdJhEoIypgq1olLg== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5043:: with SMTP id k3mr35774379pgo.406.1568436250790; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 21:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (C-59-101-201-178.bur.connect.net.au. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190910071826.GA28277@mail.bsd4all.net> <20190912040915.GA1267@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190913084421.GA46171@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190914043712.GA85701@admin.sibptus.ru> From: MJ Message-ID: <488231b0-0956-3424-3f1e-df336fa273ad@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:43:38 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190914043712.GA85701@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vfzc5Fv5z4VWl X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=XHxIPmSW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.86), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:44:13 -0000 On 14/09/2019 2:37 pm, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> >>> BTW pinfo is not without problems. If you have some info files with >>> non-ascii characters in them (like mutt.info for example), they look >>> most ugly. E.g. the header (with dashes) >>> >>> — The Detailed Node Listing — >>> >>> becomes >>> >>> M-b~@~T The Detailed Node Listing M-b~@~T >> >> Indeed, pinfo presents Unicode symbols as garbage. For example, many >> info pages contain glyphs like 0xe2 0x80 0x98 "LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" >> (U+2018) , 0xe2 0x80 0x99 "RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK" (U+2019) etc, >> and they are presented as garbage even in UTF-8 terminals like Mate >> Terminal or PuTTY. >> >> I've created a bug report: >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240553 >> let's see what comes out of it. > > Incredible, fixed already. > Now, that is service. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 05:20:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0D2DF700 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VgnV3QPfz4Whv for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=vW505l0ctF7pJwk6zc9o76MSYPaUIPaInGJ16c5Atn0=; b=NOa23Me8Y0+XuoBrjwqamGhRAb 4MWRPjWR/vvDDcKQ2jP7BrXc1JJWmcH8ak8ZyX7xaw3rLUs+qr+xmOEdXPjdw8trykcvLZzRbP10L yDM9/TwGBJthERKA1Qz1epA4o9wfX2fnO0UiUaFQux9PNL9iWDg4aRPlWynXvrxspOUs=; 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ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.10)[ip: (-9.71), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.86), asn: 20473(-0.91), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:20:31 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, Where in the base system are kernel/generic-dbg and world/base-dbg located? freebsd-update says: The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic kernel/generic-dbg world/base world/base-dbg world/doc I don't think I need them, how do I find and delete them after the upgrade? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh call is FreeBSD 12 -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 08:00:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD15EC1FB for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VlKx2vvwz4fW4 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5270036F0C for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:00:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49E0C5F3F2; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:00:06 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:58:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190914.165833.837204595421008532.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VlKx2vvwz4fW4 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.926,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.84)[-0.836,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.27), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.14), asn: 2519(1.14), country: JP(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:00:24 -0000 From: Aryeh Friedman Subject: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:39:04 -0400 > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > does not ask for a password > but > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does Did you set passphrase when creating id_rsa.pub (and id_rsa)? --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 08:16:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27321ECCEA for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2a.google.com (mail-io1-xd2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VlhD3MVxz3Bp3 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2a.google.com with SMTP id k5so42544229iol.5 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=846c/Vdl3d5UXrydUMcrO0iPUgNumDYFBtETWpLHh3I=; b=Gb9QYBrC08WiWsgCxkYvNxzssVzmzTj3vtqk6pFE3V7ksh9j8536fxQv2MgIA3LdsG bKkoA9iRYGcLB97XuVvEikz0tiEhm1pPcV5Mxj6rWWBs8W430YSsOeaEx5CX0bmw1k5k nJFvP3MXRmBsH93Q0pwR7bnz4oB3wWJi2d5HOncxUGsvlCE6aHKNA5HqZpzN+itIFVhH X+VQd3CpnKjnA/uq5SgxfNIy3hqpcKRPKLAQ+2/lhmdjb9DjLR0p0JvLcJWpkwapcOfL MTIOd4ebPYlsoBpP1uWcs0wMtb/Q6mioriFYJbVHAN9hulmjhhUkepiCmgUPexqMR7Mg jUHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=846c/Vdl3d5UXrydUMcrO0iPUgNumDYFBtETWpLHh3I=; b=GiXQ3s4JohoJNBs2W2ecVjLKNO1IuspUoiMuBzkDgCYxot5vldoQ1b98C9YmT0yYpA J5AO0MWE/E4w7+9ihNzhBhVSGXwoUjjWoFWoLw7YXMAt/wk2funWQVhfWjSliN4cbMjq 2ISvTiQYaxlLwgi4ZWDxDfPDxynabqQ8fBdPk9jqJirhvNEZc08xZaoxwBNx3DIFe8qi mq32ykoTYQj+t9JKwIv92BzrtLztXNuQV1tUJFrA+e8UgASI4W3yHVcIDBjeOdR6U5fL d90xZU4kO7nJed0iTzPhF62a77GNpcj7xqOMygQQTLRVPIJxWW6gNTKf4YZLa2A5OIKB tleA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWFsG7DKqYDLFhBxsLpL/MNk1cDtbONVVbR4CkPWOrbJxAkQFTk arcMLbNNJ0w6UvHB56wgrJ0NYPafX1Ic+krUi4iiu1Nc X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyrZqVfz3LqcfIGGHGabQ2oDUdl5/EQFYg2YGO973m5rWk+DhXL24TRXbzJn1NSb6XnILgbSaRL65TOx7pMc5g= X-Received: by 2002:a02:3446:: with SMTP id z6mr55679066jaz.105.1568448970861; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:16:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190914.165833.837204595421008532.yasu@utahime.org> In-Reply-To: <20190914.165833.837204595421008532.yasu@utahime.org> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:15:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Yasuhiro KIMURA Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VlhD3MVxz3Bp3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Gb9QYBrC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.75), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:16:13 -0000 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 4:01 AM Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > From: Aryeh Friedman > Subject: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:39:04 -0400 > > > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > > does not ask for a password > > but > > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does > > Did you set passphrase when creating id_rsa.pub (and id_rsa)? > no -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 09:03:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060FAEE087 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VmkW32rCz3Dw6 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E5FF36F25 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:03:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 569B95F42B; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:03:08 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:01:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190914.180149.507595364120716902.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: <20190914.165833.837204595421008532.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VmkW32rCz3Dw6 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.924,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.27), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.13), asn: 2519(1.13), country: JP(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:03:18 -0000 From: Aryeh Friedman Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:15:59 -0400 >> Did you set passphrase when creating id_rsa.pub (and id_rsa)? > no Umm, then it seems that ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on 'nearby' is surely not looked up by sshd. By the way, according to mail subject 'nearby' seems to be NFS client too. And I guess you share home directory with NFS. If it is right, what happens if you use local (i.e. non-NIS and non-NFS) account? That is, (1) Add new user 'localuser' to /etc/masster.passwd of 'nearby'. (2) Create home directory of 'localuser' on local file system of 'nearby'. (3) Copy id_rsa.pub as ~localuser/.ssh/authorized_keys on 'nearby' (4) Try 'ssh localuser@nearby'. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 09:21:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF85EE5D9 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vn711qHGz3FkY for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id r26so67860768ioh.8 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:21:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kepNyYUGwbb9nYlEOxAHIO89l4vvYtzF3HpMWdFEsYw=; b=ULuxSGmw2WUCjoWIpctEWM7M5jWsL5hio1CpZ/ZttnFSpNfipuQ0hCixqnJcrZ+3Eq qbuO5fYFlmJwnQTIZWoevsvIQAPqSp03bGsHtciuBLi/bA/ssGvEXyhg53gw/3Orgpw0 YDKA1Bx8/EhYYAHqncrTQf/cvfl4URLkW1nJ+N3zQ5SgxLnEiu4fPfpad2iXi5kuXkhj eRPhyR/811/FCA0SBjsKMjtFOktxIN4QKvii8THzwYoKBLBkeQrT7ULte+RcvUxJzOkw Q2GJuCUOSru3P9L8ggTWTksRdP6Rkl8LOal2ACk96YsZoau7dcJ0z957n6QsyCsLlipJ pmjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kepNyYUGwbb9nYlEOxAHIO89l4vvYtzF3HpMWdFEsYw=; b=F5NBlvXMVdhj54YDTDST+0cI0O5tiueDVnTAXOk/QMl3+1IiEhuClwrLZIK3/BZk0h Zh3Ya0vk0Xct+i1EI4ZrVZIRXKhHIMDad1fhLPk4GW1Bk03P0lP79T+3gjATJrT1Hxn2 G5e8fnGP1BwKxE1pJOEYSuS2GVbtIbnXi4BA9EkssGsHCCH0AuyYsN6XD5/0J7f5nUGL SBxljoTYSOaoL2INX4tPyuiy8DwtWy6fbtftfZYkuL4QqhamWak75drIbTJAd7vEpyXj aXt5deh0XXEr3xAt+b4gPHgtXNoKyAnoFvsYdDx8kbqFO4RXd5TutE//EKOADPr5QK9T b2rA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlj1XVJQVtJLm+G9PrZw68Q4tYsmPVJIYK23cMrI/M6WKXaKA/ 3H+w+KSvfZPh8dZePlJcIFfxyofqEX0KOlq2SHSzkR2u X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx1ix701+7x8nOXTR+4sS0/NwlP7ivRWv4bpMaiQ8+m2BA+ZNfc6a0DjGRxyJj4mqJQ5ehCMrs7uG5qrtncogM= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8b47:: with SMTP id c7mr4984918iot.42.1568452860007; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:21:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190914.165833.837204595421008532.yasu@utahime.org> <20190914.180149.507595364120716902.yasu@utahime.org> In-Reply-To: <20190914.180149.507595364120716902.yasu@utahime.org> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:20:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Yasuhiro KIMURA Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vn711qHGz3FkY X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ULuxSGmw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.25), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:21:02 -0000 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 5:03 AM Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > From: Aryeh Friedman > Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:15:59 -0400 > > >> Did you set passphrase when creating id_rsa.pub (and id_rsa)? > > no > > Umm, then it seems that ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on 'nearby' is surely > not looked up by sshd. > > By the way, according to mail subject 'nearby' seems to be NFS client > too. And I guess you share home directory with NFS. If it is right, > what happens if you use local (i.e. non-NIS and non-NFS) account? That > is, > Correct I am using NFS shares for the home dirs > (1) Add new user 'localuser' to /etc/masster.passwd of 'nearby'. > (2) Create home directory of 'localuser' on local file system of > 'nearby'. > (3) Copy id_rsa.pub as ~localuser/.ssh/authorized_keys on 'nearby' > (4) Try 'ssh localuser@nearby'. > > Doesn't ask for password localaccount --> localacccount but localaccount --> NISaccount does ask for a password (I made the authorized keys identical for both accounts). -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 09:53:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2731EF095 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vnrv6kHsz3GtH for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3166F36F33 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:53:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA9E45F46C; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:53:43 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:53:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190914.185319.486688500292777587.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: <20190914.180149.507595364120716902.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vnrv6kHsz3GtH X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.889,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.76)[-0.765,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.26), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.13), asn: 2519(1.12), country: JP(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:53:53 -0000 From: Aryeh Friedman Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:20:48 -0400 > Correct I am using NFS shares for the home dirs > >> (1) Add new user 'localuser' to /etc/masster.passwd of 'nearby'. >> (2) Create home directory of 'localuser' on local file system of >> 'nearby'. >> (3) Copy id_rsa.pub as ~localuser/.ssh/authorized_keys on 'nearby' >> (4) Try 'ssh localuser@nearby'. >> >> > Doesn't ask for password localaccount --> localacccount but localaccount > --> NISaccount does ask for a password (I made the authorized keys > identical for both accounts). Then login as root on 'nearby' (or login normal user and do 'su -') and check if ~NISaccount/.ssh/authorized_keys can be read by root. If root can't read it, probably source of the problem is NFS configuration. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 09:57:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89744EF22B for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vnx60MP2z3H11 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id j4so68100029iog.11 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:57:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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If > root can't read it, probably source of the problem is NFS > configuration. > > No problem: aryehl@timeless:/home/aryehl% sudo su - root@timeless:~ # more ~aryeh/.ssh/authorized_keys ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDK34BrNQxov5xlGQmTp36LtKgU87NkDHFVrjXWcewp9b3= E/53LQCj5ijp/7OpKBZRvF2K6D8ozsZburvJFds04WGTBaUHaL3l0duggV7VFW548PQQzUjCsV0= ttXgQaCtEopQY5cMG8jNPWu18UtETBEd/R/bv0WTsUmRYCcE/34X0d1PSHOqmuQ1S3F520Ic7Zu= aYXHhgENeGHNOQgEE1GpKZ9Q0bDcE6XElM3RQnSTnT+Y4fHeRnwLxUvICrIClvOjE+7RFoVJQ1z= 1NhrFa19ezpCbdHII2HavWPvfmgYol18PlQhe2WSVZdxzSu5gbQU6m+0cE8STBfopYhR07Gd aryeh@timeless ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDR0l967ARbPtZx8riG4dtbJ3VNzP51t+LeE+HdsSsIAAv= 9yc12yjfXnpA+h9WmI208WE1tgfY/HE9PVC+rFZlu6doR94PUS3+AinhwRRGiUjinLGneyCfzF2= g2D5BXlTWHbgA8Z/66UmOfYrHYIrH506KS1mde9hnX8qoDvj5pEU4yOlCz/hWjHSMg8V8GETImn= KisPesOikYtb2k8VtEucv03Hb4YfADZsEA8d0p5dFY0uEAuqB9Fp4BZhbryIuCLz+OiMLZVo58v= mMqR/n7yTGnKLI5qKTVpOS0HXfc9+EwFW94UsLbLhjk4se/fC/CTXmEujcksFQryyB4PHG5F aryehl@neomarx root@timeless:~ # ls -l ~aryeh/.ssh/authorized_keys -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 792 Sep 14 05:02 /home/aryeh/.ssh/authorized_keys --=20 Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 10:12:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AE0EFB53 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VpGB06nZz3Hq2 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8564A36F41 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:12:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40C7B5F483; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:12:11 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.4 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:11:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190914.191149.2177064683246823242.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: <20190914.185319.486688500292777587.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VpGB06nZz3Hq2 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.864,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.917,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.26), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.13), asn: 2519(1.12), country: JP(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:12:21 -0000 From: Aryeh Friedman Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:57:17 -0400 >> Then login as root on 'nearby' (or login normal user and do 'su -') >> and check if ~NISaccount/.ssh/authorized_keys can be read by root. If >> root can't read it, probably source of the problem is NFS >> configuration. >> > No problem: Then I'm afraid I can't provide proper suggestion any more, Sorry, but I think something is wrong with NFS. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 10:47:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC80F04BE for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vq2d3Dfmz3KBk for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:47:21 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boundary="AaYW2slBwLVTdDmOVPLDPrQpDKWU6SDu0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:47:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --AaYW2slBwLVTdDmOVPLDPrQpDKWU6SDu0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ag4diwYWwlIB6Z9z71WolNcv7RUJbpJCr"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <462f6c2c-1b8b-4d76-f086-9999ae26067e@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: kernel/generic-dbg, world/base-dbg References: <20190914052029.GA87950@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20190914052029.GA87950@admin.sibptus.ru> --ag4diwYWwlIB6Z9z71WolNcv7RUJbpJCr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/09/2019 06:20, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Where in the base system are kernel/generic-dbg and world/base-dbg > located? freebsd-update says: >=20 > The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: > kernel/generic kernel/generic-dbg world/base world/base-dbg world/doc >=20 > I don't think I need them, how do I find and delete them after the > upgrade? These are collections of debug symbols for the various binaries installed in the system. If you ever need to eg. generate a back trace as part of a bug report, they mean that each frame will be identified by function name and so forth -- in effect they mean that you can run gdb against any binary in the system and achieve meaningful results. Since they are stored separately from the binaries you're running they have no deleterious effect on normal system usage. Aside from taking up a bit of disk space, you won't suffer any ill effects from having them. I believe all of the debug files are installed under /usr/lib/debug -- se= e https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/etc/mtree/BSD.debug.dist Cheers, Matthew --ag4diwYWwlIB6Z9z71WolNcv7RUJbpJCr-- --AaYW2slBwLVTdDmOVPLDPrQpDKWU6SDu0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAl18xTVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OdQXA/+K6ipeahKqVWscvL37tnHbl8Z7fVArNOtWXhUQtrOUCu7cwahreE2MKKt FiXr4Q/azcb1JJOFzb/tj8tjA9yDlX7wZLDn7fLdVdAEmeCaeTblp81872Pc04us t+z3oQdUCc8S7gKFmoWRWzi3wVJt+aefmtOxwIzBsThTmW183VSin5swHGucPCxR 0PAN+ZGGHIrprQaSyWQlY27OwTH8SAI3+ERGQJM1cXQoW+8vRHGti6JndXc4qrTV jgaPzVcO2sVdH3iNjXn/VMpdRxBz3KdlNo0TTDTY3SnwssMyaSMdU6rGj9pfWgPE 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In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KqAHplyVs4O6xDSibiGlhZ1WUknoz2Bqp" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:50:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --KqAHplyVs4O6xDSibiGlhZ1WUknoz2Bqp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0QOLM0ldYWYsI3MNTfg9Ob56vOrVO11zN"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis References: In-Reply-To: --0QOLM0ldYWYsI3MNTfg9Ob56vOrVO11zN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/09/2019 08:39, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in = my > NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create= the > non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same permiss= ions > as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. >=20 > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > does not ask for a password > but > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does >=20 > Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) ar= e > set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh= > call is FreeBSD 12 >=20 Check the ownership / permissions on ~/.ssh on the machine where key based auth is not working -- sshd will refuse to use authorized_keys if it thinks permissions are too loose. Also check for authorized_keys related settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config -- it is not uncommon to require authorized_keys to be installed in some centralized, root owned directory that individual users don't have write access to. 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none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:09:30 -0000 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:50 AM Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/09/2019 08:39, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my > > NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create > the > > non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same > permissions > > as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. > > > > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > > does not ask for a password > > but > > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does > > > > Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) are > > set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh > > call is FreeBSD 12 > > > > Check the ownership / permissions on ~/.ssh on the machine where key > based auth is not working -- sshd will refuse to use authorized_keys if > it thinks permissions are too loose. > I don't think you can make them any tighter then this and not get errors: aryeh% id uid=1001(aryeh) gid=1001(aryeh) groups=1001(aryeh),0(wheel),1003(aegis) aryeh% ls -ld .ssh drwx------ 2 aryeh aryeh 512 Sep 14 06:49 .ssh aryeh% ls -l .ssh total 16 -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 792 Sep 14 05:02 authorized_keys -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 1675 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 396 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa.pub -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 545 Sep 14 03:19 known_hosts > Also check for authorized_keys related settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config > -- it is not uncommon to require authorized_keys to be installed in some > centralized, root owned directory that individual users don't have write > access to. > I am using the default out of the box /etc/sshd_config for 11 and 12 that has only two uncommented out configs: AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server So unless I am reading the first one completely wrong then it uses ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys which is what the ls above is of. > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- Aryeh M. 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[59.101.201.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm6372437pff.128.2019.09.14.04.20.40 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> From: MJ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 21:20:10 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vqn75XQmz3Lv4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=rflX3W8n; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::429 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.23), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:20:44 -0000 On 14/09/2019 9:09 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:50 AM Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 14/09/2019 08:39, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>> My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my >>> NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create >> the >>> non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same >> permissions >>> as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. >>> >>> ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) >>> does not ask for a password >>> but >>> ssh nearby (NIS machine) does >>> >>> Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) are >>> set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh >>> call is FreeBSD 12 >>> >> >> Check the ownership / permissions on ~/.ssh on the machine where key >> based auth is not working -- sshd will refuse to use authorized_keys if >> it thinks permissions are too loose. >> > > I don't think you can make them any tighter then this and not get errors: > > aryeh% id > uid=1001(aryeh) gid=1001(aryeh) groups=1001(aryeh),0(wheel),1003(aegis) > aryeh% ls -ld .ssh > drwx------ 2 aryeh aryeh 512 Sep 14 06:49 .ssh > aryeh% ls -l .ssh > total 16 > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 792 Sep 14 05:02 authorized_keys > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 1675 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 396 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa.pub > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 545 Sep 14 03:19 known_hosts > > >> Also check for authorized_keys related settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config >> -- it is not uncommon to require authorized_keys to be installed in some >> centralized, root owned directory that individual users don't have write >> access to. >> > > I am using the default out of the box /etc/sshd_config for 11 and 12 that > has only two uncommented out configs: > > AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys > Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server On mine (2 I looked at): 1 has ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and the other has it commented out. Both work. That path doesn't look right. Shouldn't it be either "~/" or "%h/"? > > So unless I am reading the first one completely wrong then it uses > ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys which is what the ls above is of. > > >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 11:21:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F1CF1418 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Vqnc4jC3z3M14 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.97.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLzSD-1hrhib0Jf7-00HwoV; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 13:21:04 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 13:20:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Message-Id: <20190914132059.207eef7e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:BoXz+LUwU72eYjFvZLShIouimbsDt7ejF+1JDSxOj7hjX8A/gdI I1Pkp36GfCuaRJUyE0vOLuNuDFt5Dc7wSMcLyW2fPmNK1h9pBr0VFIbFKIS2AWlxEIfOM6P natxGXA/HHjBN4iyCHhaKeEUgvcO7OyvGwR9tdRVuEEUInXROUZkDa2V7pRltAD1YilUkt1 TGyIHamP2N/8xUbsPz2vQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Nw7omSQ64gc=:up83BNDeHt8JUdCHfItIuS e2ihh1sPgLE+zN+WNBm/jyxQsp4m1K1nEL8z/jtmn7la5ypSm7+EazN4jpCnj+YxegUIxNLJx 8PTuRLzqxWwmFF2F9gJgPbab7zLwGZBN5Kwmcev42gt6llz0sMOYheqnOsGQCNK+6AKnnW01A TPKdaN65j/nBqN2fKVGQ0nSUOJBdDYEAV73crXyd1SXkhCw4OXklcg1FnY/Cb4XTZeRLWb1M3 yqcXIkBfr1y7eFsqlB021QICUWJE9xRrTLkH0IGbJ9hX61RbATqrZ27tmcFOUUFJjNq8e4MjF L7NKZi+Ct8DGGKydxfsMeiodJqnecM8YGrQbK2Vwi20O9aNTu2TFvocRRWAxaGv0NIG5tlTDK Yukh+/JBFcJm069fBiJRkI2Vkl98iyUCFN/musoqwXcjChHqh8lmVad2RQWIc6gwyWLnpH5/j mhfJBBmIARRbwfOBdsoYQGRLKzmNllfwHaetd5MboU4meV84LAN8z7kFJWNcqVCHocFr8YTBB wrVvw9PTNx69OaKxOpp5ofzpFo4hhgQQPVBtK7Tb8fdE1G4FZWhth9mOk80vW5sEMHcvz9kbg ovKz9+4qH7o4CgEO0N9acAMpQ6+pKOBb3qASivURF0h8xm2C8Ho+HlKnDrhKGyPtgiuHwEos1 tqi16Acw/ql9biKQjhPUgtOCE57jYpnx+kokSKHR4FjygGEy4HAA9xo3wxjij88ymvC3FHXdx dX7jfOb9uZ+sjA2bALaK5L9IwcUhDQRSxrFxMUOu9iOqCjrlcIndWn0LU8JUdvAD6rW45h2jc dFV13TejPVIv3rkBiiHoHuCWOPbqbtL066Kl+EW/9X3QxBtdFmD8X4eKtwudO/lGejXWwVizr j9RkZQXJXoW3dorFxwa4DlIn426cBoMwCCpZYrAE8= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vqnc4jC3z3M14 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.68 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[67.97.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.801,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[ip: (1.69), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.15), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:21:09 -0000 On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:09:17 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am using the default out of the box /etc/sshd_config for 11 and 12 that > has only two uncommented out configs: > > AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys > Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server > > So unless I am reading the first one completely wrong then it uses > ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys which is what the ls above is of. >From "man 5 sshd_config": AuthorizedKeysFile Specifies the file that contains the public keys that can be used for user authentication. AuthorizedKeysFile may contain tokens of the form %T which are substituted during connection setup. The following tokens are defined: %% is replaced by a literal '%', %h is replaced by the home directory of the user being authenticated, and %u is replaced by the username of that user. After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute path or one relative to the user's home directory. The default is ``.ssh/authorized_keys''. Maybe you can try to use "%h/.ssh/authorized_keys" or, if it applies, "/usr/home/%u/.ssh/authorized_keys" to check if this is a path problem? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Sat, 14 Sep 2019 04:36:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> <20190914132059.207eef7e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190914132059.207eef7e.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:36:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vr7W0Gxvz3Mf9 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=l8JjyXyo; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; 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AuthorizedKeysFile may contain > tokens > of the form %T which are substituted during connection setup. > The following tokens are defined: %% is replaced by a literal > '%', %h is replaced by the home directory of the user being > authenticated, and %u is replaced by the username of that > user. > After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute > path or one relative to the user's home directory. The > default > is ``.ssh/authorized_keys''. > > Maybe you can try to use "%h/.ssh/authorized_keys" or, if it applies, > "/usr/home/%u/.ssh/authorized_keys" to check if this is a path problem? > Neither idea works and I don't think we are using the same version of sshd (your must be from ports or something mine is from base)... because the same section of the man page reads nothing like what you posted: AuthorizedKeysFile Specifies the file that contains the public keys used for user authentication. The format is described in the AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT section of sshd(8). Arguments to AuthorizedKeysFile accept the tokens described in the TOKENS section. After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute path or one relative to the user's home directory. Multiple files may be listed, separated by whitespace. Alternately this option may be set to none to skip checking for user keys in files. The default is ".ssh/authorized_keys .ssh/authorized_keys2". > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > -- Aryeh M. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vs5P6Vb1z3P8s X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=S8q/IeS9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of firmdog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::536 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=firmdog@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.54), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.95), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:19:55 -0000 This was literally step #1 to upgrade my system. I am running: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Sep 15 14:35:52 UTC 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 All I did was run this command: #pkg upgrade pkg Got an error, now I get this: #pkg /lib/libc.so.7: version FBSD_1.4 required by /usr/local/lib/libpkg.so.4 not found How do I fix pkg? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 12:21:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9306F2DCD for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjose00@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Vs7k6c1Kz3PbF for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjose00@optusnet.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (C-59-101-201-178.bur.connect.net.au [59.101.201.178]) (Authenticated sender: mjose00@optusnet.com.au) by mail105.syd.optusnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78FCE361291; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:21:49 +1000 (AEST) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List References: From: MJ Message-ID: <5bd0de7e-cf45-36bc-f428-2db37e76b5b9@optusnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:21:19 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=FNpr/6gs c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=IWPir68swfjCWawBqutDzg==:117 a=IWPir68swfjCWawBqutDzg==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=0Hnjya0TYYVTOimCxSMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46Vs7k6c1Kz3PbF X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mjose00@optusnet.com.au designates 211.29.132.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mjose00@optusnet.com.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:211.29.132.0/23]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[optusnet.com.au]; RBL_MAILSPIKE_WORST(2.00)[249.132.29.211.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.10]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[249.132.29.211.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[optusnet.com.au]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4804, ipnet:211.28.0.0/14, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[optusnet.com.au]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.11), ipnet: 211.28.0.0/14(-3.25), asn: 4804(-2.39), country: AU(0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:21:56 -0000 On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my > NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create the > non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same permissions > as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. > > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > does not ask for a password > but > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does Try ssh -vvv. See if that informs you more. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 12:34:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB873F349E for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VsQ36wMKz3QJw for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.97.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MCsLu-1i0LpQ1A8G-008rPn; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:34:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:34:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andy Firman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running "#pkg upgrade pkg" broke things, how do I fix? 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I am running: > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Sep 15 14:35:52 UTC > 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > All I did was run this command: > > #pkg upgrade pkg > > Got an error, now I get this: > > #pkg > > /lib/libc.so.7: version FBSD_1.4 required by /usr/local/lib/libpkg.so.4 not > found > > How do I fix pkg? Try this: # pkg-static install -f pkg Please note that FreeBSD 10.0 has reached EOL. https://www.freebsd.org/releases/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 12:36:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60FEF35E8 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VsSk1tCXz3QQV for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.97.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mqrjz-1iVGpZ1bft-00mtE6; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:36:36 +0200 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:36:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis Message-Id: <20190914143635.95f83f06.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> <20190914132059.207eef7e.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:PdsaLRLCj/F/DFtTYWaolWu0d7jam+UA9tRk0t3GmCXGeAn8QQU +TMgDMJ3oU1Jkfsqjy6ZsmwhQM6aJgXkXwdqyE0SWW5KUxmh/97hku5KPrfxKM7M7me+jaj ZHpnZeZjY45YUYOqM/pL+U7Iz8Iwrp6Wnp+0VDJkifhbnKXHCJ1D607XrR/2JNyAi2TkYNg tLzTl05GMC7r6Ldvbt/zw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rEggejAY4oc=:8wOAGhyPiIJv8MEP84j5tQ 0bRsF4M0f6vAhjgBobcjYGoyjVm9pbkiPvtwnuuMMIpJn04zmRYUl9lrTO5qsUligER6vFWyZ ZwgqM7cf518RC8oe975ktvMQx8uPaPXDoeZ0Pw2HZwCWY9WQrVyWLdgK73ipkHb1DAXTBBGFA M1met0oQkndbZRO7Xc+K5ysEDzxxUdwS1rS1P1JgW//2s9IoxRuuifdrM/iiiLQBvjMob3UQ5 jOgfoIIW978rP/hZbm45DvO8o8pgdvAbSsn72l6ZaBYWtyR47JTDJJw7mth6hYEckJbnai8+q hRHRUGOujak6Cr/XBl97iJTfyc2NR/sxH4QqY6hGrh655Q0ctUUurIYu9rKa65WVNZuco0TgB dvNVDuPa3LzKmbq4gR+Szy71dEU2biW4wv/Vb4lleOw0oboKXnkxuri5LW1K6i/Zll2+Flyff s3bhZjxfT4AUBtG2RPtcZQoWy554dCLKmz2nHJURIxz+xe4XkMY2MpPvRYB30hcSpPJHYvM0h RXI01JGs9j7ztIBIchDJKmrBPFxfSZDpBpkSEID+fVqigEsFls+9zwR+NgT1qQ2CHwUxzc7q5 O6N9VN5ObfSL7b27egsAZcaGIn9T1s14lEqolahVG/e4gDIqbQWtAc1cYNydemIR20MvMDMSx NR5wWArgEqR04nwg9ffViIY8HImCytVmEi9h3Y2z9KWnr6bZs7MxatkxjJHmO60TR5GBzz9OI UL/0gyiXBZrNTGjYS9VM6qsG+VNbCUyB2F7a5B2DIXv559mHekABmnd+oe+KRfWu6S5mAIc+y Vt9jVMRiLmLlWUrnZpcQKeDzU7x/lX3e+ZPawZjlSyDJBzE07Ir73aGZUBnZSgwuBPg4IBNuH KbxEFvIYhcoq/uNg3Ykm9daRXW664ojdfllaA2nZk= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VsSk1tCXz3QQV X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.39 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(0.00)[74.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.20]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.69)[0.690,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.976,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ip: (-0.76), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.24), asn: 8560(2.15), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:36:38 -0000 On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:36:26 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 7:21 AM Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:09:17 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > I am using the default out of the box /etc/sshd_config for 11 and 12 that > > > has only two uncommented out configs: > > > > > > AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys > > > Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server > > > > > > So unless I am reading the first one completely wrong then it uses > > > ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys which is what the ls above is of. > > > > From "man 5 sshd_config": > > > > AuthorizedKeysFile > > Specifies the file that contains the public keys that can be > > used > > for user authentication. AuthorizedKeysFile may contain > > tokens > > of the form %T which are substituted during connection setup. > > The following tokens are defined: %% is replaced by a literal > > '%', %h is replaced by the home directory of the user being > > authenticated, and %u is replaced by the username of that > > user. > > After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute > > path or one relative to the user's home directory. The > > default > > is ``.ssh/authorized_keys''. > > > > Maybe you can try to use "%h/.ssh/authorized_keys" or, if it applies, > > "/usr/home/%u/.ssh/authorized_keys" to check if this is a path problem? > > > > Neither idea works and I don't think we are using the same version of sshd > (your must be from ports or something mine is from base)... [...] It is. :-) > [...] because the > same section of the man page reads nothing like what you posted: > > AuthorizedKeysFile > Specifies the file that contains the public keys used for user > authentication. The format is described in the AUTHORIZED_KEYS > FILE FORMAT section of sshd(8). Arguments to > AuthorizedKeysFile > accept the tokens described in the TOKENS section. After > expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute path > or > one relative to the user's home directory. Multiple files may > be > listed, separated by whitespace. Alternately this option may > be > set to none to skip checking for user keys in files. The > default > is ".ssh/authorized_keys .ssh/authorized_keys2". I assume the documentation source listed there will tell you roughly the same. Maybe the keys path wasn't constructed as required? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5bd0de7e-cf45-36bc-f428-2db37e76b5b9@optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <5bd0de7e-cf45-36bc-f428-2db37e76b5b9@optusnet.com.au> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:36:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: MJ Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VsT22cdfz3QTX X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=DBWsXMVi; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[optusnet.com.au]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.20), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:36:55 -0000 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:21 AM MJ wrote: > > > On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my > > NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create > the > > non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same > permissions > > as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. > > > > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > > does not ask for a password > > but > > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does > > > Try ssh -vvv. See if that informs you more. > One the first things I tried (I spent hours on the before posting): aryeh% ssh -vvv aryeh@timeless (aka "nearby") OpenSSH_7.8p1, OpenSSL 1.1.1a-freebsd 20 Nov 2018 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: resolving "timeless.lan.fnwe.net" port 22 debug2: ssh_connect_direct debug1: Connecting to timeless.lan.fnwe.net [192.168.11.102] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa type 0 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519 type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss-cert type -1 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.8 FreeBSD-20180909 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_7.5 FreeBSD-20170903 debug1: match: OpenSSH_7.5 FreeBSD-20170903 pat OpenSSH_7.0*,OpenSSH_7.1*,OpenSSH_7.2*,OpenSSH_7.3*,OpenSSH_7.4*,OpenSSH_7.5*,OpenSSH_7.6*,OpenSSH_7.7* compat 0x04000002 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: Authenticating to timeless.lan.fnwe.net:22 as 'aryeh' debug3: Fssh_hostkeys_foreach: reading file "/home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts" debug3: Fssh_record_hostkey: found key type ECDSA in file /home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug3: Fssh_load_hostkeys: loaded 1 keys from timeless.lan.fnwe.net debug3: order_hostkeyalgs: prefer hostkeyalgs: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp384-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp521-cert-v01@openssh.com ,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521 debug3: send packet: type 20 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug3: receive packet: type 20 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug2: local client KEXINIT proposal debug2: KEX algorithms: curve25519-sha256,curve25519-sha256@libssh.org ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group16-sha512,diffie-hellman-group18-sha512,diffie-hellman-group14-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,ext-info-c debug2: host key algorithms: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp384-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp521-cert-v01@openssh.com ,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521, ssh-ed25519-cert-v01@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-512-cert-v01@openssh.com, rsa-sha2-256-cert-v01@openssh.com,ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com ,ssh-ed25519,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ssh-rsa debug2: ciphers ctos: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: ciphers stoc: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: MACs ctos: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: MACs stoc: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: compression ctos: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: compression stoc: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: languages ctos: debug2: languages stoc: debug2: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: reserved 0 debug2: peer server KEXINIT proposal debug2: KEX algorithms: curve25519-sha256,curve25519-sha256@libssh.org ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group16-sha512,diffie-hellman-group18-sha512,diffie-hellman-group14-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 debug2: host key algorithms: ssh-rsa,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519 debug2: ciphers ctos: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: ciphers stoc: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: MACs ctos: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: MACs stoc: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: compression ctos: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: compression stoc: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: languages ctos: debug2: languages stoc: debug2: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: reserved 0 debug1: kex: algorithm: curve25519-sha256 debug1: kex: host key algorithm: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 debug1: kex: server->client cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: compression: none debug1: kex: client->server cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: compression: none debug3: send packet: type 30 debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_ECDH_REPLY debug3: receive packet: type 31 debug1: Server host key: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 SHA256:p3BzCuoOHDdBRZTpU1pUBzm1ggZ54+xvOgQsqnBMIaw debug3: verify_host_key_dns DNS lookup error: general failure debug3: Fssh_hostkeys_foreach: reading file "/home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts" debug3: Fssh_record_hostkey: found key type ECDSA in file /home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug3: Fssh_load_hostkeys: loaded 1 keys from timeless.lan.fnwe.net debug1: Host 'timeless.lan.fnwe.net' is known and matches the ECDSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug3: send packet: type 21 debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1 debug1: rekey after 134217728 blocks debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug3: receive packet: type 21 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0 debug1: rekey after 134217728 blocks debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa (0x80308a000) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519 (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss (0x0) debug3: send packet: type 5 debug3: receive packet: type 7 debug1: SSH2_MSG_EXT_INFO received debug1: Fssh_kex_input_ext_info: server-sig-algs= debug3: receive packet: type 6 debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug3: send packet: type 50 debug3: receive packet: type 51 debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,keyboard-interactive debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: RSA SHA256:p0RVefXW440C9qPB6/k3XC5PONDCcsSgJ8YGWzIGnRM /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa debug3: send packet: type 50 debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug3: receive packet: type 51 debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive debug1: Trying private key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa debug3: no such identity: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa: No such file or directory debug1: Trying private key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa debug3: no such identity: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa: No such file or directory debug1: Trying private key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519 debug3: no such identity: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519: No such file or directory debug1: Trying private key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss debug3: no such identity: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss: No such file or directory debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug3: authmethod_lookup keyboard-interactive debug3: remaining preferred: password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug2: userauth_kbdint debug3: send packet: type 50 debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply debug3: receive packet: type 60 debug2: input_userauth_info_req debug2: input_userauth_info_req: num_prompts 1 and for faraway: aryeh% ssh -vvv aryeh@faraway OpenSSH_7.8p1, OpenSSL 1.1.1a-freebsd 20 Nov 2018 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: resolving "faraway" port 22 debug2: ssh_connect_direct debug1: Connecting to faraway [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa type 0 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519 type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519-cert type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss type -1 debug1: identity file /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss-cert type -1 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.8 FreeBSD-20180909 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_7.5 FreeBSD-20170903 debug1: match: OpenSSH_7.5 FreeBSD-20170903 pat OpenSSH_7.0*,OpenSSH_7.1*,OpenSSH_7.2*,OpenSSH_7.3*,OpenSSH_7.4*,OpenSSH_7.5*,OpenSSH_7.6*,OpenSSH_7.7* compat 0x04000002 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: Authenticating to faraway:22 as 'aryeh' debug3: Fssh_hostkeys_foreach: reading file "/home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts" debug3: send packet: type 20 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug3: receive packet: type 20 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug2: local client KEXINIT proposal debug2: KEX algorithms: curve25519-sha256,curve25519-sha256@libssh.org ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group16-sha512,diffie-hellman-group18-sha512,diffie-hellman-group14-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,ext-info-c debug2: host key algorithms: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp384-cert-v01@openssh.com, ecdsa-sha2-nistp521-cert-v01@openssh.com,ssh-ed25519-cert-v01@openssh.com, rsa-sha2-512-cert-v01@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-256-cert-v01@openssh.com, ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com ,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521,ssh-ed25519,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ssh-rsa debug2: ciphers ctos: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: ciphers stoc: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: MACs ctos: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: MACs stoc: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: compression ctos: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: compression stoc: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: languages ctos: debug2: languages stoc: debug2: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: reserved 0 debug2: peer server KEXINIT proposal debug2: KEX algorithms: curve25519-sha256,curve25519-sha256@libssh.org ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group16-sha512,diffie-hellman-group18-sha512,diffie-hellman-group14-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 debug2: host key algorithms: ssh-rsa,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519 debug2: ciphers ctos: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: ciphers stoc: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com ,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com, aes256-gcm@openssh.com,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc debug2: MACs ctos: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: MACs stoc: umac-64-etm@openssh.com,umac-128-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha2-256-etm@openssh.com,hmac-sha2-512-etm@openssh.com, hmac-sha1-etm@openssh.com,umac-64@openssh.com,umac-128@openssh.com ,hmac-sha2-256,hmac-sha2-512,hmac-sha1 debug2: compression ctos: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: compression stoc: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: languages ctos: debug2: languages stoc: debug2: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: reserved 0 debug1: kex: algorithm: curve25519-sha256 debug1: kex: host key algorithm: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 debug1: kex: server->client cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: compression: none debug1: kex: client->server cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: compression: none debug3: send packet: type 30 debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_ECDH_REPLY debug3: receive packet: type 31 debug1: Server host key: ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 SHA256:X1gmK2fPzWSRMyxyY5aul0KdVjFGBWhSndOF6YJ5eL0 debug3: verify_host_key_dns DNS lookup error: general failure debug3: Fssh_hostkeys_foreach: reading file "/home/aryeh/.ssh/known_hosts" The authenticity of host 'faraway (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:X1gmK2fPzWSRMyxyY5aul0KdVjFGBWhSndOF6YJ5eL0. No matching host key fingerprint found in DNS. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'faraway' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts. debug3: send packet: type 21 debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1 debug1: rekey after 134217728 blocks debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug3: receive packet: type 21 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0 debug1: rekey after 134217728 blocks debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa (0x80308a000) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_dsa (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ecdsa (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_ed25519 (0x0) debug2: key: /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_xmss (0x0) debug3: send packet: type 5 debug3: receive packet: type 7 debug1: SSH2_MSG_EXT_INFO received debug1: Fssh_kex_input_ext_info: server-sig-algs= debug3: receive packet: type 6 debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug3: send packet: type 50 debug3: receive packet: type 51 debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,keyboard-interactive debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: RSA SHA256:p0RVefXW440C9qPB6/k3XC5PONDCcsSgJ8YGWzIGnRM /home/aryeh/.ssh/id_rsa debug3: send packet: type 50 debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug3: receive packet: type 60 debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg rsa-sha2-512 blen 279 debug2: input_userauth_pk_ok: fp SHA256:p0RVefXW440C9qPB6/k3XC5PONDCcsSgJ8YGWzIGnRM debug3: sign_and_send_pubkey: RSA SHA256:p0RVefXW440C9qPB6/k3XC5PONDCcsSgJ8YGWzIGnRM debug3: sign_and_send_pubkey: signing using rsa-sha2-512 debug3: send packet: type 50 debug3: receive packet: type 52 debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). Authenticated to faraway ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]:22). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug3: ssh_session2_open: channel_new: 0 debug2: channel 0: send open debug3: send packet: type 90 debug1: Requesting no-more-sessions@openssh.com debug3: send packet: type 80 debug1: Entering interactive session. debug1: pledge: network debug3: receive packet: type 80 debug1: client_input_global_request: rtype hostkeys-00@openssh.com want_reply 0 debug3: receive packet: type 91 debug2: Fssh_channel_input_open_confirmation: channel 0: callback start debug2: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY debug3: Fssh_ssh_packet_set_tos: set IP_TOS 0x48 debug2: client_session2_setup: id 0 debug2: channel 0: request pty-req confirm 1 debug3: send packet: type 98 debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 1 debug3: send packet: type 98 debug2: Fssh_channel_input_open_confirmation: channel 0: callback done debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 debug3: receive packet: type 99 debug2: Fssh_channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 0 debug2: PTY allocation request accepted on channel 0 debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 2097152 debug3: receive packet: type 99 debug2: Fssh_channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 0 debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0 -- Aryeh M. 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To: Andy Firman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: MJ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:37:55 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VsVs5Rw9z3Qbv X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dgQBezCM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::434 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.94), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:38:30 -0000 On 14/09/2019 10:19 pm, Andy Firman wrote: > This was literally step #1 to upgrade my system. I am running: > > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Sep 15 14:35:52 UTC > 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > All I did was run this command: > > #pkg upgrade pkg > > Got an error, now I get this: > > #pkg > > /lib/libc.so.7: version FBSD_1.4 required by /usr/local/lib/libpkg.so.4 not > found > > How do I fix pkg? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Try pkg update -f See if that corrects it. 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Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:41:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0b5eed49-986a-d40e-7df9-971a47cb500e@FreeBSD.org> <20190914132059.207eef7e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190914143635.95f83f06.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190914143635.95f83f06.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VsZ006XXz3R02 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CXs3IoSV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.49), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:41:12 -0000 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:36 AM Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:36:26 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 7:21 AM Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 07:09:17 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > I am using the default out of the box /etc/sshd_config for 11 and 12 > that > > > > has only two uncommented out configs: > > > > > > > > AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys > > > > Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server > > > > > > > > So unless I am reading the first one completely wrong then it uses > > > > ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys which is what the ls above is of. > > > > > > From "man 5 sshd_config": > > > > > > AuthorizedKeysFile > > > Specifies the file that contains the public keys that can > be > > > used > > > for user authentication. AuthorizedKeysFile may contain > > > tokens > > > of the form %T which are substituted during connection > setup. > > > The following tokens are defined: %% is replaced by a > literal > > > '%', %h is replaced by the home directory of the user > being > > > authenticated, and %u is replaced by the username of that > > > user. > > > After expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an > absolute > > > path or one relative to the user's home directory. The > > > default > > > is ``.ssh/authorized_keys''. > > > > > > Maybe you can try to use "%h/.ssh/authorized_keys" or, if it applies, > > > "/usr/home/%u/.ssh/authorized_keys" to check if this is a path problem? > > > > > > > Neither idea works and I don't think we are using the same version of > sshd > > (your must be from ports or something mine is from base)... [...] > > It is. :-) > > > > > [...] because the > > same section of the man page reads nothing like what you posted: > > > > AuthorizedKeysFile > > Specifies the file that contains the public keys used for > user > > authentication. The format is described in the > AUTHORIZED_KEYS > > FILE FORMAT section of sshd(8). Arguments to > > AuthorizedKeysFile > > accept the tokens described in the TOKENS section. After > > expansion, AuthorizedKeysFile is taken to be an absolute > path > > or > > one relative to the user's home directory. Multiple files > may > > be > > listed, separated by whitespace. Alternately this option > may > > be > > set to none to skip checking for user keys in files. The > > default > > is ".ssh/authorized_keys .ssh/authorized_keys2". > > I assume the documentation source listed there will tell you > roughly the same. Maybe the keys path wasn't constructed as > required? > Unless the default config file shipped with FreeBSD is fundimentally broken (which it is not becaue it *DOES* work on a host that has no NFS/NIS.... [the orgininal post showed the results of it two different machines with the only difference is "nearby" uses nfs/nis to mount home dirs and manage login ids and "faraway" does not... both are using default configs that where installed by bsdinstall at the time of system install and untouched by me ever since).... so I am willing to catagorically rule out path issues because same files in the same location on two different machines behave differently with the same config. -- Aryeh M. 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[59.101.201.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 6sm52627173pfa.162.2019.09.14.06.22.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 06:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List References: From: MJ Message-ID: <99038e82-9643-cbe8-63d7-e3a04ada43b5@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:21:59 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VtTj4B0Dz3xsg X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=GJSTssE2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::430 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.42), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 13:22:34 -0000 On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my > NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create the > non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same permissions > as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. > > ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) > does not ask for a password > but > ssh nearby (NIS machine) does > > Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) are > set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh > call is FreeBSD 12 > Well in desperation I guess you could: Nuke the dud server's authorized_keys Use "ssh-copy-id -i /your/path/to/key aryeh@nearby" to copy your pub key to the dud server. Test with "ssh -i /your/path/to/key -vv aryeh@nearby" Cheers Mark. 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Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh > > call is FreeBSD 12 > > > > Well in desperation I guess you could: > > Nuke the dud server's authorized_keys > Use "ssh-copy-id -i /your/path/to/key aryeh@nearby" to copy your pub key > to the dud server. > Test with "ssh -i /your/path/to/key -vv aryeh@nearby" > > Cheers > Mark. > -- Aryeh M. 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[59.101.201.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b5sm54805894pfp.38.2019.09.14.06.27.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <99038e82-9643-cbe8-63d7-e3a04ada43b5@gmail.com> From: MJ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:26:50 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VtbJ0FjYz3yJm X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dodJDPbG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::535 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.201.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.36), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 13:27:25 -0000 Well it's great to see that extra debugging information totally missed it. :-P On 14/09/2019 11:24 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Problem solved it turned out to be really simple the home dir was 777 when > the widest ssh wants it is 755 (all the permissions I where look at before > where the .ssh dir not the home dir) > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:22 AM MJ wrote: > >> >> On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>> My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my >>> NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create >> the >>> non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same >> permissions >>> as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. >>> >>> ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) >>> does not ask for a password >>> but >>> ssh nearby (NIS machine) does >>> >>> Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) are >>> set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh >>> call is FreeBSD 12 >>> >> Well in desperation I guess you could: >> >> Nuke the dud server's authorized_keys >> Use "ssh-copy-id -i /your/path/to/key aryeh@nearby" to copy your pub key >> to the dud server. >> Test with "ssh -i /your/path/to/key -vv aryeh@nearby" >> >> Cheers >> Mark. >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 14:51:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FF6F6E82 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VwSX2Wdlz4474 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A87A160D; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TzeQOSzi_LPC; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1816CA04A7; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x8EEpXhl041663 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:51:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: MJ Cc: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <99038e82-9643-cbe8-63d7-e3a04ada43b5@gmail.com> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:51:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46VwSX2Wdlz4474 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.40)[0.402,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.66)[ip: (1.68), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.11), asn: 16686(1.83), country: CA(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.84)[0.838,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 14:51:41 -0000 On 2019-09-14 15:26, MJ wrote: > Well it's great to see that extra debugging information totally missed it. The bad permissions was a security problem on the server - it *shouldn't* be reported to a client, even when it is run with -vvv. It is possible though a bit tricky to run the *server* with debugging, that may have revealed the problem. Hm, actually I tried the scenario *without* any debugging now, and in the server's /var/log/auth.log I found: Sep 14 16:41:58 pluto sshd[7708]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/per FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE, OpenSSH_7.8p1 (in base). And I got the exact same result with a server running 10.3-RELEASE, OpenSSH_7.2p2. --Per > :-P > > > On 14/09/2019 11:24 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> Problem solved it turned out to be really simple the home dir was 777 when >> the widest ssh wants it is 755 (all the permissions I where look at before >> where the .ssh dir not the home dir) >> >> On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:22 AM MJ wrote: >> >>> >>> On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>>> My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not in my >>>> NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to create >>> the >>>> non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same >>> permissions >>>> as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. >>>> >>>> ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) >>>> does not ask for a password >>>> but >>>> ssh nearby (NIS machine) does >>>> >>>> Both have identical authorized keys and both (and their parent dirs) are >>>> set to 644. Both machines are FreeBSD 11 and the machine doing the ssh >>>> call is FreeBSD 12 >>>> >>> Well in desperation I guess you could: >>> >>> Nuke the dud server's authorized_keys >>> Use "ssh-copy-id -i /your/path/to/key aryeh@nearby" to copy your pub key >>> to the dud server. >>> Test with "ssh -i /your/path/to/key -vv aryeh@nearby" >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mark. >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 15:21:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805BAF7A52 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org 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nfs/nis References: <5bd0de7e-cf45-36bc-f428-2db37e76b5b9@optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: --5lbZqJjw5Jnm8ubFruLsaImrqwo0wKrxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/09/2019 13:36, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 8:21 AM MJ wrote: >=20 >> >> On 14/09/2019 5:39 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>> My ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files works fine on a machine that is not i= n my >>> NIS domain but when I copy my id_rsa.pub (which is what I did to crea= te >> the >>> non-NIS authorized_keys) to my NIS account and give it the same >> permissions >>> as the working machine it insists on asking for a password. >>> >>> ssh faraway (non-NIS machine) >>> does not ask for a password >>> but >>> ssh nearby (NIS machine) does >> >> Try ssh -vvv. See if that informs you more. >> > One the first things I tried (I spent hours on the before posting): It is frequently more enlightening to turn on debugging on the server side. You can often spin up sshd on a high-numbered port for testing: /usr/bin/sshd -d -d -d -p 2222 This will not daemonize and will only handle one connection attempt. Run that in one window, and then attempt to ssh into the host from anothe= r: ssh -p hostname Cheers, Matthew --5lbZqJjw5Jnm8ubFruLsaImrqwo0wKrxX-- --3gxKIVDUGf0fuKZnFuXe5WZEPTnyS4KDY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAl19BY9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5Of12RAAkyBkNb34NqOcDZk8+ayn/L8RHD8+5b9fBVaHxAHElconcQulsSpBJRjZ PNASuzNydtparMHZvp4usrMx8zuonmeKBcKKTclQh+kWOwZjhEhNgtfP29HWBsw0 FniQUNXQ/4grRLbG6lvkm3AAwYQShrGS2n1w11VAtNWqvTszZWOlWW3JjaDIX+kD IaGuk1p4Q5r+x2AiicX3QxayDms0cI1JzSdCCnxIFupjQM90MnLq85NyrtEnmINq 9kK/MtKlB/wQ/sIcamAjLVdEBQVskAeMmtOHZyrStCwm5qjBXCv36Hjm2DEj6V79 MR/3a+jPkOo4tP/wYi4qwJTrrqBDfJbkL2gRE9LYmxJNoNK2+My1gjVB5D5OerqL qR8tSi4abgtNoNyxc6BbxzxeGRAC39oL8fU2WvwXPCUfb++oGBVpnXoXc/vUxiaC eJVbApe+zxxz/tCBw4rhLDPQc+aD6xF6MX6MHwgGzyodnsSvQ3ABYYVsYnpdmFny dhRwConiAN9XqBYNCZpZ7AWkdWprvVl9DFKMbbH9O6afARmTfekaAWDYicM5ECjQ 0AxKSusGq4ih239FGTEYNOBP2Dpn8z+3zoOeYjMIJdeCGm0YQH+LBmOkimm+xj19 4qaoHUbOGD26zYpW5gmGaYA3NmO3R7ftJ288nH0j3HD5Y1QeFhA= =4LVq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3gxKIVDUGf0fuKZnFuXe5WZEPTnyS4KDY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 16:32:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E801AF91CE for ; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:32:46 -0000 Aryeh Friedman writes: > [...] > I don't think you can make them any tighter then this and not get errors: > > aryeh% id > uid=1001(aryeh) gid=1001(aryeh) groups=1001(aryeh),0(wheel),1003(aegis) > aryeh% ls -ld .ssh > drwx------ 2 aryeh aryeh 512 Sep 14 06:49 .ssh > aryeh% ls -l .ssh > total 16 > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 792 Sep 14 05:02 authorized_keys > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 1675 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 396 Aug 30 11:09 id_rsa.pub > -rw------- 1 aryeh aryeh 545 Sep 14 03:19 known_hosts > > How about permissions on your home directory? Might they be too loose? g. 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([2a00:23c4:8a9b:b501:5e3:a475:69cd:2cc0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a18sm53318550wrh.25.2019.09.14.15.06.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob X-Google-Original-From: Rob To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: AMD driver/Xorg/KDE5 issue Message-ID: <9c54fa7c-8013-26e5-ad37-1f589be7c1d7@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:06:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46W66L4N4Dz4Xvl X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.40), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.95), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 22:06:36 -0000 Dear FreeBSD questions I have for a number of weeks been attempting to install FreeBSD 12.0, after a lot of frustration I have got it to boot on an old (~7yr old) laptop of mine. I have got to the point where I am attempting to install KDE5 but before that I have tried to see if startx works first, it doesn't. I have an odd dual AMD graphics set-up (a Radeon HD 6400M/7400M with an APU whose model I don't remember) so I tried to install the drm-kmod package as the xorg var log file didn't seem to be able to find a usable driver, but when I do I get: [1/3] Extracting gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190620: 0% [1/3] pkg: Fail to create /boot/modules:No such file or directory [1/3] Extracting gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190620: 100% Having found this problem, I wiped the drive, reinstalled FreeBSD again and before rebooting the system, I created this directory in case it was some odd permissions issue, but I get the same message. If anyone more competent than me (i.e. everyone) has an idea how I could fix this I would be grateful. Also, I sent an email to the mailman on the FreeBSD mailing list regarding this issue but other than an 'awaiting approval' email I have not heard any more.  I believe that I am supposed to register as a member, I have registered on the forums as user In_Over_My_Head but I am not sure if that is the type of registration that the mailman is referring to.  It would help if certain things such as this were made clearer, especially if those heavily involved with this project wish to reach a potentially wider user base as some may consider such behaviour as rude. Thank you for your time and Kind Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 14 23:00:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A99D1AED for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46W7Jd4H2Yz4ZtC for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.97.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N9dbx-1iCJtQ3apZ-015WBg; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 01:00:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 01:00:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Rob Cc: Rob via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: AMD driver/Xorg/KDE5 issue Message-Id: <20190915010028.67b44ae3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9c54fa7c-8013-26e5-ad37-1f589be7c1d7@gmail.com> References: <9c54fa7c-8013-26e5-ad37-1f589be7c1d7@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NKhheLlouBfMWnxVETVSC0rwftGpnyIim82z5InJs40v2xdl4hh zhNtNcn0HDawbfvmULXC+RQoAAkbovl0emFyfef123at5XzTx+MX8jxlnBWikysYgmVSVqK iLGyvKcDDkN+1DHS6hxOUya/liz0dDpOzA2SxNrsb2C2LBKDTOtoqm/1ZRa/I3rWfiac9fM pIhPus7zELddmSoTUMFVA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:YesB2NSd8kc=:8+1jemxBlujoN4PMmR4dU8 P9SC52kS9uVZfoVe+FjEveJ09FGHTGYoyYEjGuaAtwRY2WaIU5lo3zDIFZx4SBGcuFb+2kZI2 AXQEV4fTV3BUQ18E+6oTyrGDbY8OpPOkkLeNBCJOfvDkGcUki5itATe0HmEmfdPs2WkMJG+W4 xKXrnf6ZUKL0tfBCE65Nq3Auu9rx+QE0SzXFE23zKQALpk8KE4m1gTgEb3RZZyIfYugEtjxsH CO8+xeHRXWnoj2NWtaXcem33Y98ifZtYG8Sl6rV/3Gx993w7G/5SK9241YBOhfLOQQ2W7WltU WJCIMqot5MLYNkjlpQpzuR1QpTgP9T68AAR8OM2bN71to3TgB8OaYXfndhK9kEyoamgI92C1B BbkTRPamrdWz6KULxSOq4VtqSk/wiUbWwAzyDakV5Toryr7a+nLQ3BLy6y6otlnxKSpzHPTGA gPNyN8/m3K6EgZE/YyK1v24nF4exs0ahqfN4g+Wy0NSTDvaiizYJ+8zs7CT8y5QjhvhdwOH8r xUlR+N2ijaKt8tNuO2M38dnaM/dxy9G1fa41AKnZef34A4dGxy1CI52dunKlnD8cZKLRloU3J h7SH0X1hOtkDXGRajOweTCd72xPryfwYOuGLqEmQ7Lz8IqxqlKpZwkz+Oy/73IsdSC1Z0Hggn cI/hsI6RVKaMAhKI86/QcfycKm36y7U1UA54UeCA7AI+4NSBP8pt5JpJ3JaPBKZQO5mZ9B4hS gnz57HPP/tWZ1kr13VCmRTHedz2ep9vDJ35qFQyAZqWq6LEX7RiKt5G68aYatEflGEr0SswkN 9cdgfobn1RBJKj07DuYQEKuYTId/1he/DTDZtjHe5HxcAT0D4vZ5VlmQ5iCzGiowucfyhDUV4 s+FqpRcEu46BiftCEBCYdfLFYrhIXPuHMgF0R/nVM= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46W7Jd4H2Yz4ZtC X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.67 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[67.97.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.804,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.980,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[ip: (1.67), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.15), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:00:34 -0000 On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:06:29 +0100, Rob via freebsd-questions wrote: > Dear FreeBSD questions > > I have for a number of weeks been attempting to install FreeBSD 12.0, > after a lot of frustration I have got it to boot on an old (~7yr old) > laptop of mine. I have got to the point where I am attempting to install > KDE5 but before that I have tried to see if startx works first, it doesn't. > > I have an odd dual AMD graphics set-up (a Radeon HD 6400M/7400M with an > APU whose model I don't remember) so I tried to install the drm-kmod > package as the xorg var log file didn't seem to be able to find a usable > driver, but when I do I get: > > [1/3] Extracting gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190620: 0% > [1/3] pkg: Fail to create /boot/modules:No such file or directory > [1/3] Extracting gpu-firmware-kmod-g20190620: 100% > > Having found this problem, I wiped the drive, reinstalled FreeBSD again > and before rebooting the system, I created this directory in case it was > some odd permissions issue, but I get the same message. Are you sure your base OS installation went without problems? That bessage doesn't look right... Wiping and re-installing sounds a bit drastic for a non-working graphics driver. This isn't "Windows", you know? ;-) In order to get AMD / ex ATi Radeon HD working - I had a similar problem on an older laptop / almost-netbook -, you need to install the following: drm-fbsd12.0-kmod gpu-firmware-kmod Sadly, with AMD, I'm never sure which one is correct: is it amdgpu, or radeon-something, or what? I can fully understand your problems described here, even though the error message looks strange... In /boot/loader.conf, add: drm_load="YES" I'm not sure X would load it automatically, and the hints for adding kld_list="/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko" to /etc/rc.conf (as explained somewhere I can't remember) didn't work on my system (X always loaded VESA). Regarding X, make sure you have installed the appropriate drivers. I had success with xf86-video-ati Except the 3D results are terrible (like with Intel desktop graphics). This setup worked for what I have in this laptop. In ports there are "radeontool" and "radeontop", but no further X video drivers named "ati", so I assume the "ati" one is correct, as there doesn't seem to be any "radeonhd" anymore, even though "man radeon" leads to a manual page (it probably comes from the ati driver package, not entirely sure). More information here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics Make sure you start X without any configuration first. Examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log in case X doesn't start properly. Sidenote: When your "text" console becomes unreadable due to ant-tiny letters, you did load the correct driver successfully. ;-) > If anyone more competent than me (i.e. everyone) has an idea how I could > fix this I would be grateful. Small steps: simple things (X) first, complex things (KDE) second. Check log files and error messages. Provide commands and responses of what you tried. > Also, I sent an email to the mailman on the FreeBSD mailing list > regarding this issue but other than an 'awaiting approval' email I have > not heard any more. You probably used the address of the list manager. That is not a place to ask for technical help - the list itself is there for it. > I believe that I am supposed to register as a > member, I have registered on the forums as user In_Over_My_Head but I am > not sure if that is the type of registration that the mailman is > referring to. The web forum is totally independent from this mailing list. You _can_ register to post to the list, but you _need_ to register if you want to receive the list's messages. > It would help if certain things such as this were made > clearer, especially if those heavily involved with this project wish to > reach a potentially wider user base as some may consider such behaviour > as rude. Rude is something absolutely different. Over the many years I'm on this list, I am still pleased about the friendly tone and the helpful answers on this list. Other places are, compared to this list, hostile. You can find descriptions of the FreeBSD mailing lists here: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo I'd say _this_ mailing list is the right place to ask. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[59.101.194.209]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x22sm5431538pjn.19.2019.09.14.16.47.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Sep 2019 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: My ssh authorized_keys doesn't work with nfs/nis To: Per Hedeland Cc: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <99038e82-9643-cbe8-63d7-e3a04ada43b5@gmail.com> From: MJ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:47:19 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46W8MJ1Z6Sz4ccY X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ENG9PKjW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::533 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.194.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.80), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 23:47:57 -0000 On 15/09/2019 12:51 am, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2019-09-14 15:26, MJ wrote: >> Well it's great to see that extra debugging information totally missed it. > > The bad permissions was a security problem on the server - it > *shouldn't* be reported to a client, even when it is run with -vvv. > It is possible though a bit tricky to run the *server* with debugging, > that may have revealed the problem. Hm, actually I tried the scenario > *without* any debugging now, and in the server's /var/log/auth.log I > found: > I'm sorry, but nowhere does he say it was on the server. Thanks for the *LESSON* anyway.