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UTC time zone, > without even being given a format spec: > > $ uname -a > Linux ... > $ date -d 2019-11-03T07:11:09.005639Z +%s.%N > 1572765069.005639000 > > Alas, it is not among "the tools in base", and in the general case, I > guess there may be "reasonable doubt" as to whether its parsing is > actually correct (it isn't *possible* to give a format spec). But for > a correctly formed 8601 date/time, it should absolutely be OK. > > --Per Thanks everyone, i am going with the sed part. Is this the only place in FreeBSD where the = ISO 8601 format including fractions of seconds is used? There was a patch for adding it as an option to syslogd (https://reviews.f= reebsd.org/D14918), but that was not commited Wouldn't it be best, if date is extended to handle the fraction part offic= ialy? 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[209.85.210.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n9sm4054073otn.4.2019.11.10.04.23.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Nov 2019 04:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id m15so9045575otq.7 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 04:23:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6285:: with SMTP id x5mr17560749otk.267.1573388584938; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 04:23:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191108194652.50c4f8e7c87ec76b9abc6e19@sohara.org> <20191108200005.21a9cdac18587cc36bd7cb01@sohara.org> <20191109154827.42b0b2e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191109183356.76307bdc4ab6f0a1f68c0acd@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20191109183356.76307bdc4ab6f0a1f68c0acd@sohara.org> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:22:52 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: 12.1 on Thinkpad - problem making graphics work To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" , Polytropon Cc: "James E. 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That was cherry on the top of the issues and the last reason for me to stop using Linux and avoid that maintenance nightmare. I noticed that back then when Linux graphics stopped working because video driver api has changed. They moved along. And that silly "bleeding-edge" concept became standard worldwide. Now we got into this with FreeBSD :-( I hope noone will agree and accept this situation here! Stability, maturity, high quality and self-compatibility are the reasons I am using the FreeBSD because I value it more than "modern untested features". Well planned and designed code can provide new features without breaking the API/ABI. I am sure this is what really differentiated FreeBSD from the rest of the world. Stability and Maintenance are the core requirements in the Production Systems. I hope FreeBSD will stay that way and remain its high quality standards. Breaking kernel API/ABI with each release is definitely NOT the way to go. 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[209.85.167.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x79sm252713oif.20.2019.11.10.07.43.25 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Nov 2019 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f176.google.com with SMTP id i185so9405535oif.9 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 07:43:25 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:7583:: with SMTP id q125mr19403642oic.168.1573400605328; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 07:43:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191108194652.50c4f8e7c87ec76b9abc6e19@sohara.org> <20191108200005.21a9cdac18587cc36bd7cb01@sohara.org> <20191109154827.42b0b2e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191109183356.76307bdc4ab6f0a1f68c0acd@sohara.org> <20191110144830.096ce11b0668dd0721359cfa@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20191110144830.096ce11b0668dd0721359cfa@sohara.org> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:43:12 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: 12.1 on Thinkpad - problem making graphics work To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Polytropon , "James E. Pace" , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 479yw102wsz45DQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=DnCWVToc; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::341) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-0.27)[ip: (3.03), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.34), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 15:43:30 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith napisa=C5=82: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 13:22:52 +0100 > Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > > I hope FreeBSD will stay that way and remain its high quality standards= . > > Breaking kernel API/ABI with each release is definitely NOT the way to > go. > > This was a late (post release) discovered bug not intentional > breakage. > Sure. Bugs happen. Workaround was quickly found. However, if you look at GitHub discussion [1] a solution is proposed that will consider API changes, different versions variants for different releases, modules and packages infrastructure complication. This sounds the Linux way not the BSD way. This seems to be the root cause of the problem.. The problem would never happen in the first place when API was designed in a way it does not change with next versions and releases. No further complications to the core and infrastructure is necessary. No "bleeding-edge" accepted into kernel. While some "DRM vs DRM2" issues may result like removing drm.ko from kernel at all (it has no use anyway). Why the upstream does not land here into drm.ko? Another story is about loading external modules from ports directly into kernel.. and updating them with PKG. If the module was reviewed under strict core merge rules and probably tested with CI before things like this would not happen. Kernel modules restricted for update with freebsd-update could also increase security and stability. https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 I really LOVE FreeBSD. I just do not want it to become a mess like the rest of the world, just because others do :-) Best regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 10 16:17:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CA81B8140 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 479zg62wh8z47F7 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: kernel bug in 11.3-STABLE causes frequent crashes Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 09:17:19 -0700 References: <201911091057.xA9AvGjx028838@sdf.org> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <201911091057.xA9AvGjx028838@sdf.org> Message-Id: <02C99748-26A6-450B-9FE6-A8BE4623172C@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 479zg62wh8z47F7 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ip: (-0.71), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.19), asn: 209(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 16:17:23 -0000 On 09 Nov 2019, at 03:57, Scott Bennett wrote: > The machine is ancient. The CPU is a QX9650 (last group of Core 2 > Quads) with 8 GB of DDR3 memory. Couldn=E2=80=99t this be a hardware issue? RAM, most likely. --=20 All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand. 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Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 10 18:16:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271E81BAC90; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47B2JW6mN0z4F45; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.105.113]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MlNcr-1i2pGV22Zx-00lo4h; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:16:22 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:16:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Telling svnlite to ignore specific dirs/ports Message-Id: <20191110191620.294ab21b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fcEKt4UNXCyAMwHoo+9ymaCKGQG9aJZawUA65fEt1Kx7RVxaokX AkTqy+//oQU8epnXSzIB+696XTbGXJUAJDVHPfT1q8jWy2TW9b3CMLrX15Vsiwuq2nGjjsq hpf5dEVwOeiNYYXRLSnuJLLWp2aNN9+9Su3nkALJb/JhcnNYzHPOfTXg1GKJpa7LhP1P4k7 xMaSc4sx0PrIuBGidMgVA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Uorcmx38a4w=:tcjgv0BQAd/VIT/i7E74bT llUcyo64Bi7tH9XEC+E8otF5/p+6Ka3M6Zg5kQnH3sIGiZyzkgzG+9HGYWsfm9jNtJeZxkf7H 5CqqzCxRneRYVafwXVafnls6gguqAnjvYLI1+Ktb9Sdg7bYY7MDAuRyTVhhrtLkv4QJECxdLP UsHTG+ELE6jPamcD0K4e8PB8+mT1UnLWDSrRtQfVtpF2O3f2dbRBaQH6XnY2CK/kaam7cEWka xIimiX6mZMNKoCs3BfUccPJ0mmASUmEPmT0EJC+CQHqfP8S0ZXDLXKE051UH8LqdTAFxVNm5a ICJQw3FEJ+FCyXhb4UTsB9mWi/BCWe/r0vVzFoJmjDAANBmjUT5GVphigHggLFRnRicpaPmPG 094ifuekiDAoYmDrQmMAldazl9HIiQCYXhQ2SgcoO9UWIgsSSW68IxH+Uflo7uluGN8wRLTTO HbpCclgDBo5sOMqDtJft83ygeh6mU/M5OB7isLKB8c0FWryUKJDDKOa+6ARp8j8e371rvKyhP Jsfktt1noVWOgkWybIsktx3NkE1TG71rS+7oHKpek/71pqIx4i/Ke3/5+SDxcGG0B2qHKX7Yz 4nz53w079SG4JbQfwp2mS+lSXofL7WYPIF0TOBJEml1BaZ5tVqFRhHO8DyligEtvbEwu1Bmi6 p3+FM0KUGCRcIL+l1w73jiDES7vAFNNKxPtaBWLyTWzH3DGbnQqvK0zOztgZdFWom97HTu1Mi 9XDrOkMN7p0IaEHk5SDmxfeZz+ExzRRKXd7ah/NPT5mrHf6xXlSTD8hIL9S9x0MytOuF37Rdw Sok5iFCAIsU7hYQHBNhPi1CVy6fz6Q8d33f5ZuMGUMgoCWzx12hZcMs0HcffzO7qqgMaj7uPz Lb2Gxlmy+QhTnwyX3ZTQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47B2JW6mN0z4F45 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.135) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.18 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[113.105.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.51)[0.512,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.968,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.60), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.35), asn: 8560(2.28), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:16:29 -0000 On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:32:56 -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I am using a pre-release emulator/virtualbox-ose-* (the one in PR 234878) > how do I prevent a svnlite update on /usr/port from clobbering some or all > of the files in the effected port dirs? Ye olde CVS had a convenient way to specify categories or ports to obtain or to ignore. With SVN, it's also possible, but a little bit more complicated: 1. Create a file where you list the ports to be ignored, let's say /root/ports_ignore.txt: emulator/virtualbox-ose-* I'm not sure if you can use "*" in there (it _should_ be possible though), but in worst case, list all the subdirectories to ignore. I'm also not sure if a trailing slash ("dirname/") is needed, but I doubt it. 2. Then apply the ignore properties to the currently present ports tree: # cd /usr/ports # svn propset svn:ignore -R -F /root/ports_ignore.txt . This should result in the listed directories to be marked as "ignore" and therefore _not_ receive any deltas. 3. You can now run your update command. I have not tested this. ;-) Sidenote: You can of course leave out the text file and list the directory names in the "svn propset" command manually (no -F needed then). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p59sm8023967qtd.2.2019.11.11.06.38.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Nov 2019 06:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47BYR62jBRz2xHh for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:38:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:38:55 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unable to login Message-ID: <20191111093855.0000098e@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47BYR955Mdz4F1X X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=VD9/a6zY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.23 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.73)[ip: (-9.26), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 14:39:02 -0000 I recently updated to FreeBSD 12.1. Everything seemed fine at first. Now, quite suddenly, I am unable to login to my system. =46rom a cold boot, the login screen appears. I type in the name and password, and a new login screen appears, The time of my last login is updated though. It appears that I am being immediately signed out of each session. I am caught in a login cycle. What can I do to correct this? --=20 Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 11 15:46:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D256C1B835F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47BZxS5HfFz4K28 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 778FA1F74D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC15D1539F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/EC15D1539F; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral From: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Unable to login To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191111093855.0000098e@seibercom.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:39 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191111093855.0000098e@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 15:46:52 -0000 On 11/11/2019 14:38, Jerry wrote: > I recently updated to FreeBSD 12.1. Everything seemed fine at first. > Now, quite suddenly, I am unable to login to my system. > > From a cold boot, the login screen appears. I type in the name and > password, and a new login screen appears, The time of my last login is > updated though. It appears that I am being immediately signed out of > each session. I am caught in a login cycle. > > What can I do to correct this? > Here's an outline of the sorts of things you can try to get access to an uncommunicative system. Try these in this order until you succeed in logging in. You almost certainly won't need to try the later stages in this sequence, as those indicate a machine so badly broken that it would struggle to boot at all, let alone get to a login screen. But I've left them in here for completeness' sake. Are you using a graphical login manager? Can you login on the console without the graphical bits? You can usually use Crt-Alt-F2 to switch to vty2 which should give you a console login prompt. Failing that, can you login remotely via the network at all? --- if you can login outside your graphical environment, then the breakage is in the graphical layer. Check the logs for clues; try reinstalling various graphical bits. Make sure you have any necessary loadable kernel modules loaded: remember that these are specific to the exact kernel version you're running, so loadable modules may well need recompiling locally after an upgrade. Be sure to check for things like disk full (df -h) or run-out- of-inodes (df -i) Can you login on the console as a different user? As root would be useful. --- being able to login as a different user indicates that it's probably something like your user shell that's broken. Missing shared libraries is a classic reason for things like that to happen. Failing that, can you reboot the machine into single user mode and get into the console that way? (Take the default when it asks you what shell to use) --- this gives you a somewhat limited root shell, without networking or any of the other usual services running. Also the filesystem will be mounted read-only (if you're on UFS2) or only the root ZFS will be mounted, so you may need to remount it read-write and also mount all of the other filesystems. Again, go hunting in system logs for any indication of why your login is failing. If that doesn't work, try again, but this time, when prompted to type in the name of the shell, type in /rescue/sh If you get this far then your system is pretty badly hosed and you should be thinking about reinstalling, but you still have a chance to recover stuff from your drive before you overwrite it. The final level to try is booting into a live-CD from some installation media. You should then be able to mount your actual filesystems onto the live-CD and do the sort of investigations described above. 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Everything seemed fine at first. >> Now, quite suddenly, I am unable to login to my system. >> >> From a cold boot, the login screen appears. I type in the name and >> password, and a new login screen appears, The time of my last login >> is updated though. It appears that I am being immediately signed out >> of each session. I am caught in a login cycle. >> >> What can I do to correct this? >> > >Here's an outline of the sorts of things you can try to get access to >an uncommunicative system. Try these in this order until you succeed >in logging in. You almost certainly won't need to try the later >stages in this sequence, as those indicate a machine so badly broken >that it would struggle to boot at all, let alone get to a login >screen. But I've left them in here for completeness' sake. > >Are you using a graphical login manager? Can you login on the console >without the graphical bits? You can usually use Crt-Alt-F2 to switch >to vty2 which should give you a console login prompt. > >Failing that, can you login remotely via the network at all? > > --- if you can login outside your graphical environment, then the > breakage is in the graphical layer. Check the logs for clues; > try reinstalling various graphical bits. Make sure you have > any necessary loadable kernel modules loaded: remember that these > are specific to the exact kernel version you're running, so > loadable modules may well need recompiling locally after an > upgrade. > > Be sure to check for things like disk full (df -h) or run-out- > of-inodes (df -i) > >Can you login on the console as a different user? As root would be >useful. > > --- being able to login as a different user indicates that it's > probably something like your user shell that's broken. > Missing shared libraries is a classic reason for things like that to > happen. > >Failing that, can you reboot the machine into single user mode and get >into the console that way? (Take the default when it asks you what >shell to use) > > --- this gives you a somewhat limited root shell, without > networking or any of the other usual services running. Also the > filesystem will be mounted read-only (if you're on UFS2) or only the > root ZFS will be mounted, so you may need to remount it read-write > and also mount all of the other filesystems. Again, go > hunting in system logs for any indication of why your login is > failing. > > If that doesn't work, try again, but this time, when prompted > to type in the name of the shell, type in /rescue/sh If you get > this far then your system is pretty badly hosed and you should > be thinking about reinstalling, but you still have a chance to > recover stuff from your drive before you overwrite it. > >The final level to try is booting into a live-CD from some >installation media. You should then be able to mount your actual >filesystems onto the live-CD and do the sort of investigations >described above. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thanks Matthew. I am keeping this for future reference. I was doing some cleanup on my system after the update. I decided to remove a lot of crud from various files, including the ".bashrc" file. For some dumb reason, I stuck an "exit" at the end of the file after I had cleared out a lot of obsolete settings. I hadn't had my third cup of coffee yet, I suppose. 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[65.25.53.210]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a11sm2743597ilb.72.2019.11.12.10.13.04 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:13:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5DCAF630.3090302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:13:04 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valeri Galtsev CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quotas in jails References: <5DC48E00.30203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47CG7l37nyz3N9N X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=sJ4J9JbC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luzar722@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::141 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luzar722@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[210.53.25.65.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (1.61), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:13:09 -0000 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2019-11-07 15:34, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Has anyone been able to get quotas to work in multiple jails? > > I'm not certain I quite understand what you are asking. > > I'm successfully using UFS-2 filesystem quotas. In my case filesystems > with quotas set up as you usually would are mounted on host system, and > nullfs mounted beneath jail's root point (can be on various levels). > > Valeri Thank you for your reply Valeri. But I am having trouble comprehending what your words are saying as related to the system configuration files. I am working with RELEASE 12.0 and quotas is included in the delivered kernel so need to compile the quota option into the kernel. I used bsdinstall to install the system from scratch and selected to use the whole hard drive as a single partition. I manually added quota_enable="YES" to the rc.conf file and rebooted. In the boot messages I see message that quote started normally. My jail is a directory tree type at path /usr/jails/jailname and I can start and stop that jail using the jail command with no problems. My goal is for the jail users to issue the quota commands to check on how much space they have used of the allowed space. The man jail documentation says the path /usr/jails/jailname is called a filesystem. I this the same thing you are calling a filesystem? An excerpt of the configuration statements and the name of the files they go in would sure be helpful in understanding how you have your jail quota environment setup. Thanks in advance for any help. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 12 20:30:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024291B9DAA for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CKBP33pwz442x for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 963D84E673; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:30:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: quotas in jails To: Ernie Luzar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5DC48E00.30203@gmail.com> <5DCAF630.3090302@gmail.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:30:36 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5DCAF630.3090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47CKBP33pwz442x X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.969,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (0.20), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.10), asn: 160(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:30:39 -0000 On 2019-11-12 12:13, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >> On 2019-11-07 15:34, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>> Has anyone been able to get quotas to work in multiple jails? >> >> I'm not certain I quite understand what you are asking. >> >> I'm successfully using UFS-2 filesystem quotas. In my case filesystems >> with quotas set up as you usually would are mounted on host system, >> and nullfs mounted beneath jail's root point (can be on various levels). >> >> Valeri > Thank you for your reply Valeri. But I am having trouble comprehending > what your words are saying as related to the system configuration files. > > I am working with RELEASE 12.0 and quotas is included in the delivered > kernel so need to compile the quota option into the kernel. Example: In /etc/fstab I have /dev/da0p6 /path/to/data ufs rw,userquota 2 2 /path/to/data /jails/jail1/insidejail/data nullfs rw 0 0 # execute mount -a # set quotas for some user: edquota -u -e /home:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser # set quota for range of userids same as that of user: prototypeuser edquota -u -e /path/to/data:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser You are done. Thanks. Valeri > > I used bsdinstall to install the system from scratch and selected to use > the whole hard drive as a single partition. I manually added > quota_enable="YES" to the rc.conf file and rebooted. In the boot > messages I see message that quote started normally. > > My jail is a directory tree type at path /usr/jails/jailname and I can > start and stop that jail using the jail command with no problems. > > My goal is for the jail users to issue the quota commands to check on > how much space they have used of the allowed space. > > The man jail documentation says the path /usr/jails/jailname is called a > filesystem. I this the same thing you are calling a filesystem? > > An excerpt of the configuration statements and the name of the files > they go in would sure be helpful in understanding how you have your jail > quota environment setup. > > Thanks in advance for any help. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 12 20:48:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F36E1BA9D9 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CKZy31k3z457D for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99F6B4E673 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:48:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: quotas in jails To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5DC48E00.30203@gmail.com> <5DCAF630.3090302@gmail.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:48:25 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47CKZy31k3z457D X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.903,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (0.19), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.10), asn: 160(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 20:48:27 -0000 On 2019-11-12 14:30, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2019-11-12 12:13, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2019-11-07 15:34, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>>> Has anyone been able to get quotas to work in multiple jails? >>> >>> I'm not certain I quite understand what you are asking. >>> >>> I'm successfully using UFS-2 filesystem quotas. In my case >>> filesystems with quotas set up as you usually would are mounted on >>> host system, and nullfs mounted beneath jail's root point (can be on >>> various levels). >>> >>> Valeri >> Thank you for your reply Valeri. But I am having trouble comprehending >> what your words are saying as related to the system configuration files. >> >> I am working with RELEASE 12.0 and quotas is included in the delivered >> kernel so need to compile the quota option into the kernel. > > Example: > > In /etc/fstab I have > > /dev/da0p6   /path/to/data ufs     rw,userquota     2       2 > /path/to/data   /jails/jail1/insidejail/data   nullfs  rw  0  0 > > # execute > > mount -a > > # set quotas for some user: > > edquota -u -e /home:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser # correction: edquota -u -e /path/to/data:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser > > # set quota for range of userids same as that of user: prototypeuser > > edquota -u -e /path/to/data:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser > # correction: edquota -u -p prototypeuser 500-99999 > > You are done. > > > Thanks. > Valeri > > >> >> I used bsdinstall to install the system from scratch and selected to >> use the whole hard drive as a single partition. I manually added >> quota_enable="YES" to the rc.conf file and rebooted. In the boot >> messages I see message that quote started normally. >> >> My jail is a directory tree type at path /usr/jails/jailname and I can >> start and stop that jail using the jail command with no problems. >> >> My goal is for the jail users to issue the quota commands to check on >> how much space they have used of the allowed space. >> >> The man jail documentation says the path /usr/jails/jailname is called >> a filesystem. I this the same thing you are calling a filesystem? >> >> An excerpt of the configuration statements and the name of the files >> they go in would sure be helpful in understanding how you have your >> jail quota environment setup. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 12 23:43:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3C61BECAD for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x143.google.com (mail-il1-x143.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::143]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47CPSW3Tkzz4HDk for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x143.google.com with SMTP id a7so16841812ild.6 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:43:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RYPFNmu6sM7ef8nPLbVKMIWN2UFeguFazjD9pqdKngo=; b=D/6yHV7RhLFnVpZiAeI43noiyt7p1fvxYyV1nXQvBbVxcK3aAl5goC4BPqy4l5nvM0 pvwtQv9aC5rTEoHB5DDyoH3LakznUbz+/E08vZHfvJU4lv49OwddETehlmcv+iUicVQ1 RoVYxGiPZuuA6LFfHdmXgYwxdzHkzmVxCBCAXXowbr8hp7iym5zaMt8SLhLpV9uD1vu5 xAurqnwRRJh8w2xy0f5plCFeD9C7WARBtd8CdspccaUuGM/dj27324Bn9oWXvIA1wSbe 2qFKpIE0Bx0NwvPVFaOE1uxxaQ++TXC2lxf2vE0pKsfEpWtErdAcx1xVV6XB//0avHMn lg0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RYPFNmu6sM7ef8nPLbVKMIWN2UFeguFazjD9pqdKngo=; b=hTI9VM1PgvAnfzQaQVd0H5idmW+/9rmEBewkhu3B0KFh8sNR4OxPHVFjn0P4/bQnea V6/YwFMprXyj3/LgZieHAhP69FNNiXdN7B5r7nAqsxLfCb1ncNHFLMmXNoW6ZP8coYaB jfW6z7hioxJ3Fhc9JgJiOF/NteWjUQPVw25TpykrU17TJhF7aBLKf3xBeas62JUySg5v cNUX+N/AhPyNDgu8hBpEVuN4hGa7RgCaVELq5YkGBqVa3TVHKCVavoKb2OoS6nCxF8j4 eIPp7JKqNYqqXkWCwdf1JKHws4y66jN9IsTDatzMibu6m2P83rISpGhAT+O9JHy8rGj9 bPQg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXnNBwTPc4WE4ClOhiC4OfuIeUMaKudcvAm8L1tH0SQ8RVgPRMZ jp0Kjj2tMy25FSL/T3ckW1M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxfe7ZHVyt6BkWf9r8Dh8y8ScQ097LdBN8GZqx4X2Os2PbproTVz6ZqatyYxiYmqoTCfPvlPA== X-Received: by 2002:a92:9e90:: with SMTP id s16mr527544ilk.237.1573602186272; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.10.8] (cpe-65-25-53-210.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.53.210]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q3sm15424ill.0.2019.11.12.15.43.04 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:43:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5DCB4389.50408@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 18:43:05 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valeri Galtsev CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quotas in jails References: <5DC48E00.30203@gmail.com> <5DCAF630.3090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47CPSW3Tkzz4HDk X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=D/6yHV7R; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luzar722@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::143 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luzar722@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[210.53.25.65.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (1.79), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 23:43:08 -0000 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2019-11-12 12:13, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2019-11-07 15:34, Ernie Luzar wrote: >>>> Has anyone been able to get quotas to work in multiple jails? >>> >>> I'm not certain I quite understand what you are asking. >>> >>> I'm successfully using UFS-2 filesystem quotas. In my case >>> filesystems with quotas set up as you usually would are mounted on >>> host system, and nullfs mounted beneath jail's root point (can be on >>> various levels). >>> >>> Valeri >> Thank you for your reply Valeri. But I am having trouble comprehending >> what your words are saying as related to the system configuration files. >> >> I am working with RELEASE 12.0 and quotas is included in the delivered >> kernel so need to compile the quota option into the kernel. > > Example: > > In /etc/fstab I have > > /dev/da0p6 /path/to/data ufs rw,userquota 2 2 > /path/to/data /jails/jail1/insidejail/data nullfs rw 0 0 > I think you jumped over some very import information here. /dev/da0p6 would seem to indicate that when you allocated the da0 disk drive you created partitions on the disk drive which you planed to use to segregate your jails by partition. Is that a correct interpretation? If you showed the da0 disk layout with the partition directory trees and the jail.conf definition statements for the example jail and used the real fstab statements containing the real paths then it would become easier to see the complete picture of how things relate to each other. > # execute > > mount -a > > # set quotas for some user: > > edquota -u -e /home:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser > > # set quota for range of userids same as that of user: prototypeuser > > edquota -u -e /path/to/data:100G:110G:1000000:1100000 prototypeuser > > > You are done. > > > Thanks. > Valeri > > >> >> I used bsdinstall to install the system from scratch and selected to >> use the whole hard drive as a single partition. I manually added >> quota_enable="YES" to the rc.conf file and rebooted. In the boot >> messages I see message that quote started normally. >> >> My jail is a directory tree type at path /usr/jails/jailname and I can >> start and stop that jail using the jail command with no problems. >> >> My goal is for the jail users to issue the quota commands to check on >> how much space they have used of the allowed space. >> >> The man jail documentation says the path /usr/jails/jailname is called >> a filesystem. I this the same thing you are calling a filesystem? >> >> An excerpt of the configuration statements and the name of the files >> they go in would sure be helpful in understanding how you have your >> jail quota environment setup. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 07:45:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0D11A8ECE; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 07:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Cc9071c1z3CK6; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 07:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.177.163]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id UnL6iOiMHgJPjUnL8i9v5w; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 07:45:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 07:44:53 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a bug with FreeBSD list servers? 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I received 0, 5, and 3 messages in the last three days. Has volume on the FreeBSD lists been unusually light, or is there a bug with the FreeBSD list server, or maybe the server at my end? I logged in to my FreeBSD lists account and into the twc.com (spectrum.net) web interface to check my settings, and I am not under any spam filters. I was successful sending messages to freebsd-test@freebsd.org . I am not sure on who best to send this inquiry to. Sincerely, Thomas Mueller From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 09:57:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48181AC16A for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47Cg4y433Kz3KXQ for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id E6CCE4E656; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 01:56:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fresh install (12.1-RELEASE) won't boot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <68599.1573639017.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 01:56:57 -0800 Message-ID: <68600.1573639017@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Cg4y433Kz3KXQ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-2.98)[ip: (-7.82), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.91), asn: 14051(-3.11), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 09:57:08 -0000 Got myself a new toy... a cheap HP T620 thin client off eBay. Installed FreeBSD 12.1 release onto the SSD and all seemed to go well. Rebooted after the install and the dang thing apparently got hung trying to do a PXE boot. (I have no idea why. It didn't do this when Windows was on the SSD.) So I disabled PXE as a boot device in the BIOS... probably the Wrong Way, but I'm not sure it matters. Rebooted again and now all I get is: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. I figured that maybe it had something to do with Secure boot, so I went into the BIOS and checked. Secure Boot is disabled already. :-( What did I do wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 10:17:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B211ACB7D for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47CgXj2zn4z3Lr1 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2BF3312071 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9CA51567C for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/C9CA51567C; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Is there a bug with FreeBSD list servers? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <61fcd3be-3c33-5fc3-da23-19babac31f1a@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:17:41 -0000 On 13/11/2019 07:44, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I notice in the past three or four days that I have received very few messages from FreeBSD lists, and I am subscribed to many, including freebsd-questions and others. > > I received 0, 5, and 3 messages in the last three days. > > Has volume on the FreeBSD lists been unusually light, or is there a bug with the FreeBSD list server, or maybe the server at my end? > > I logged in to my FreeBSD lists account and into the twc.com (spectrum.net) web interface to check my settings, and I am not under any spam filters. > > I was successful sending messages to freebsd-test@freebsd.org . > > I am not sure on who best to send this inquiry to. It hasn't been anything out of the ordinary in terms of traffic levels. The FreeBSD mail servers have been functioning normally over the past few weeks, although there was a problem with bot traffic causing a bad reputation score for the FreeBSD mail servers. It's possible your mail provider has been mistakenly classifying some mailing list traffic as spam. You can compare the traffic you've seen with the archives on lists.freebsd.org to see if there are messages you haven't actually received. Your ultimate resource for mail problems is to contact postmaster@FreeBSD.org who are incredibly helpful, but obviously can only fix problems with the FreeBSD systems themselves. Otherwise you'ld need to speak to whoever provides your email service. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 10:39:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139F91AD2DE for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x234.google.com (mail-oi1-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::234]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Ch1s2Wsjz3Mx0 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x234.google.com with SMTP id v138so1326364oif.6 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:39:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bnezv2qBBvE6pQ6WwD3Fs1U4j/YDqbJ3MS9Dmte1guM=; b=A7+DGGOVQISduBcO0bGYvXFaRPN6G85fV/4/p9czHpFaCJM+X4TBkST68FUXuZ7196 fBhDkGNQ0lRE62YORWaNvZyabLrFIPJw+5W7T/eTDRc778yqBM6Zg1VoJjPlohN+n+dq Fmdj2VIb2g3KRI1N5fO5i80NlZos1ntKzw80SPqAQ5CbhBFDElXgnKIoPvQHH1sbRdto p+qLJm3yR3ajYf3+diUH6U+QDguy0sOvTFDSHgMYxGK6Js8Psjr+OuythUTE7WKAj75/ SVfJuXpLkfd4UCrvJZdWG4ISbS6UCT7LIrvSetEYrUas5aS5u/sglhowhiL8MoTp9LvT eT5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bnezv2qBBvE6pQ6WwD3Fs1U4j/YDqbJ3MS9Dmte1guM=; b=j55TNBbcyGX7gum0BusC+jgg/IitB+fiyUFDoDVk/kYAq6USM9CFEPHaoiMH9SuzWu Xofe/Q33J5Os3WoUovDzxp3LOwsTq6m2gzgW8H/FjVljStZ0G5ownrwswi8xaXgbLJ1W pJpPVlkwdMx2iDwAZxk2B0pSABKQBjtleL4Ccja2nLYh5TGmM4YhvLxNXuf65zM3Sms7 nV6TxjrKTG3btPwW5dqC/Qbi5N7AwHc8/+MX0k61heppaWowDpQkbfARjD4YtwhVQD/w d2WeS6l76/PCGvTuHWMAptdX81Bi1zegZW2WE5LnI3rwwoJBENhjqzA7wcNUXISyMVla MakA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVxo5cW1ox+s3TXtsSUn1TaeNvNQmasCW1kaDRe+1gYdNYXPbv8 ofXSDk27IPWY8EgEpiyPpf45nGsCNSw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxJeZQgyocggMAHRS982PwJs6a5k80yMTyZFwaCLiWLX2mcHuUH3AfpiSnM3B4UaGWlSnNi8w== X-Received: by 2002:aca:1e0e:: with SMTP id m14mr2700112oic.72.1573641567709; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot1-f48.google.com (mail-ot1-f48.google.com. [209.85.210.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l13sm580094otp.46.2019.11.13.02.39.26 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f48.google.com with SMTP id 94so1176093oty.8 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3e53:: with SMTP id h19mr2522400otg.98.1573641566415; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:39:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <68600.1573639017@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <68600.1573639017@segfault.tristatelogic.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:39:14 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fresh install (12.1-RELEASE) won't boot To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Ch1s2Wsjz3Mx0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=A7+DGGOV; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::234) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.66)[ip: (-8.95), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:39:30 -0000 make sure you did select a BIOS and UEFI compatible boot during install. you may have selected EFI boot while machine uses BIOS/MBR or vice versa? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 10:53:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6191AD86C for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ChL75CXmz3Nc0 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id 93F164E656; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:53:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: NEVERMIND! (was: Fresh install (12.1-RELEASE) won't boot) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <68842.1573642414.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:53:34 -0800 Message-ID: <68843.1573642414@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47ChL75CXmz3Nc0 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-2.99)[ip: (-7.85), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.92), asn: 14051(-3.12), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:53:36 -0000 I re-did the install and now all is well, so obviously, it wasn't anything to do with Secure Boot, or MBR versus GPT. I really don't know what went wrong. The only thing that I did different the second time I did the install was that instead of making one huge / partition and then a 4GB swap partition, I made a 20GB / partition, then a 4GB swap, and then the rest of the (128GB) drive I set up as /home. (I did manual partitioning both times.) The only other thing I did different was that on my second install attempt I had the USB install stick in a USD 2.0 port, rather than in one of the system's USB 3.0 ports. The original problem may have all been down to some issues with kernel support for the USB ports on this machine. I saw multiple CAM errors on the USB stick when I first tried to redo the install from one of the USB 3.0 ports. But I also got CAM errors relating to the USB stick just -after- my second (successful) install attempt (from a USB 2.0 port) had completed, and as the system was shutting down in preparation for reboot. Weird! Regards, rfg P.S. On the second install attempt I did try to use MBR rather than GPT partitioning, but the install process politely informed me that this hardware apparently doesn't like good old MBR. 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r29sm1092936qtb.63.2019.11.13.03.09.08 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Nov 2019 03:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47Chh33kVSz345N for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 06:09:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 06:09:02 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Manually start screen saver Message-ID: <20191113060902.00003f6d@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Chh65ZzZz3PQK X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=TNYf2GqX; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::729 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.22 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.33), asn: 15169(-2.00), country: US(-0.05)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:09:11 -0000 Running FreeBSD 12.1, is there any way to manually start the screen saver? I have this is the "/etc/rc.conf" file, but the screen saver never starts. ## Screen Saver saver="star" -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 16:15:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A34C1B4F46 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mail.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [216.226.128.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47CqTZ2fTMz4CvP for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:36f:4446:a1ff:fee1:94aa] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:36f:4446:a1ff:fee1:94aa]) by mail.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9A7C8E52B; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:15:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Manually start screen saver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry References: <20191113060902.00003f6d@seibercom.net> From: CyberLeo Kitsana Message-ID: <94f02dc0-fa79-a52f-cf81-f711390b399f@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:15:21 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191113060902.00003f6d@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47CqTZ2fTMz4CvP X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:15:30 -0000 On 11/13/19 5:09 AM, Jerry wrote: > Running FreeBSD 12.1, is there any way to manually start the screen > saver? I have this is the "/etc/rc.conf" file, but the screen saver > never starts. > > ## Screen Saver > saver="star" The default console driver for modern FreeBSD versions is the vt(4) console driver. This is needed for modern X11 with kernel mode setting. As far as I know, the console screensavers only work with the legacy sc(4) console driver. I have not seen anything thus far that suggests this has changed. To make the console screensavers work again, you can set the following in loader.conf(5) and reboot: kern.vty=sc Keep in mind that this will break modern X and possibly EFI boot display output as well. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Element9 Communications http://www.Element9.net Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 13 23:23:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462A31BF19E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47D0zp48XHz48KT for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.223.160.172]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M8hEd-1iZgp80qPp-004guE for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 00:23:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 00:23:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manually start screen saver Message-Id: <20191114002342.2cb070db.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191113060902.00003f6d@seibercom.net> References: <20191113060902.00003f6d@seibercom.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:CFFcZuBPolkolXeRf30dwNPyn9ZB2BNPlviaxwmBr8h2F1wIUHh IBNYu9MCHvB3n/hnoZyCmeO8MhpznT379/0vjcVo6Vwil4rLfiJez8+E2cKBDWPPpFcqbIm LhMqC1lkVMi2jqzsR0+B/wQP7p1/571Ag7JdI7O53NtQ2kKcq5oNRvcEjA3tVSYfy8whkLJ g+rdsXBbneH/Du435zciA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xIg/JlyNTUA=:36qqkhTWLfxKCbPpPUP50f X+zIDu/4Ks7JJfzgbtqNlrLIDoRJKuT27k5AWLW75TXq9IwYjjtbQ24q+/lC81MNDbZ/2bvhW XYN7GUi0nySdt0Lsm75WlALcqGNkS5oxnQJ/1isgvlfmd4YhmcHmQV0sPZEw4Sg9bYLCtDaQE 0QjCD7XcXGZBq8yy98mT3DrRehJ7nri+1uIMg7Y1wn8bg/8DWk9di/JufqcE0dKm+MHpaft5Q +9VJGtFNfMzqkugWUJ0cj9NXFIloIhOUxyykytrvjHXnwIBfCVscehLH+dPPR6/QFCFtd5x6u nPiNfZbynV9dqzrxDaWf3v1rrBFHTMpYIb0j82fieylGmoHdfKIrYuKuU9Q4Csz54RzF73oA/ +V0O9zXwAJdMWLp6rddW6xOugy543wBKg6l/YAaQLgQX0gSd4dOam48p9r89amEHbankNsqNw KoSfDldH46yvE/EkM/cFmC20x5+71OM6R99BSST01ihrAp3Psjfmr8k7qu9RtFz+xgERcv69B 3FVqhnYaMp3vPOPnxKfSM57otAAmj8j1659WQvyBWREmAA8c7sle+jOUPFu3CAsoVJyQgASo2 n8KEGO/w2DyKzUD51hkGWcSK2whltkbdURZ1IcmD92tRtypBcEId6ycdJYwv0sgugp4jLs94R JfjfKAPCp+GL8GbYfuUw2eS/yW3F3dwt9G2+l/NwOZBu/RIDdqUgPqCuSk6Ni9aOrUi/n3BJe aQ3CgSD2wAsEWFAgsGvssYruTmoXVYDkTGXW40bgHZr0dVj5HRQ/MwewLBSbxLIa0BqBoIQ8J TLNVUS+KC7BnQB8w2opYbB7crv38VJhu634UI1ybVJFSUkDlWAto4aLlgBAdE15MksAMD69NN WnD+A4qlC5GZd8zSkn2A== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47D0zp48XHz48KT X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 23:23:51 -0000 On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 06:09:02 -0500, Jerry wrote: > Running FreeBSD 12.1, is there any way to manually start the screen > saver? I have this is the "/etc/rc.conf" file, but the screen saver > never starts. > > ## Screen Saver > saver="star" That setting is correct, but it doesn't work anymore (at least not in FreeBSD's default configuration). So what you're observing is to be expected. The screensaver this setting refers to works with sc, the former console driver. Today FreeBSD use vt, which is required for X and KMS, and it's the default even in "text mode". You can still go back to using sc. In /boot/loader.conf: kern.vty=sc But in this case, X probably won't work anymore, if you depend on that... Sidenote: The setting saver= in /etc/rc.conf is used in /etc/rc.d/syscons where the required kernel module will be loaded. Same for blanktime=, which addresses vidcontrol. So basically, in order to get the screensaver started, you'd do: # service syscons restart But as I said, this now involves vt, not sc. The corresponding setting in /etc/rc.conf therefore have no effect. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:15:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:15:27 +0100 From: Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> To: Kirk Coombs Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost net connection Message-Id: <20191114091527.635ae2f07487c453abf40c04@gmx.ch> In-Reply-To: <23D6125E-B4AA-4E45-BEE7-61F03343285A@coombscloud.com> References: <20190830090009.552198444e8f4d432be42c4a@gmx.ch> <20190830103646.77c8d199.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190830122818.d6d0b9f572a2afef1accd487@gmx.ch> <127b3725-3eeb-6f67-0e38-d53214975b7a@gmail.com> <20190830182711.0ea2cea55d51c940ae4b81e6@gmx.ch> <23D6125E-B4AA-4E45-BEE7-61F03343285A@coombscloud.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:7OE5qu1oZFXaGhgjEVnsf5NarNm/tBcnm7Q60dLiQs9pgPvWQOH +Y6xYPaR1D4lKP4J+c8hQfmCQ6rOTf9Jq680dlxVNWuDR6nVa+yPN6VuTwZJFB9UY5mWIH8 bWH5MoNoss7jZ+OJwLxEFIaYD9Q4G9Zi2E6S0xigmp/awtMbvvf824PkHbxuGb4ATJPGjM6 EJSMsRLJEd+ODl7Wnv9fw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:43R8+xx7eDI=:bWAcHasQELYBTuHrU9Y3pk YU8BWku7EAJRdCWKXJsWuK7b97wnZAj9Y57vE4SoE3nRy22SZlNW+rLrlrKyjiwAymleeaXJP FajbMb70CgjaHY1iQ0yGWEimeyD/07b1RTVKz1KNMloq0Izvh/P7iXq6xVjHsoNYpYvuhg/Iu XXpyTTDMXX3dza8r03g84Edw0CCcn2G6N4XfVUqE8Qw63doRh7SmTYv9XvfhKYcuUeBQuyiB3 uoDozQQmZ9qVYGoXMxtCcRjoz+2LUuwI7wRILQuO5gGnoXuYpDLKMu5YNBI3ryQbMadbYHNFp g1vwZT8HVRu1/2MLSqTwyl6tQo5bepA00F8cP+6pOEBhsMZ9OBJihwZfEwnPrjeCG+PqHTikf F88sUTPGlZxeYT1T0xSAOCFoWV2hv2qtd6mLpf7BvFeRRJTLWlehQOFzYsz+8QSdLA4Vransf 5/g2Rxfc4akqioB9Iibd9E/6QxYpyf4naP1LJ2IOjQvnDKyr3Tt7A80If3tvPwwwMVAfet1n9 LXTIiD55/loQ3DpmlXnxeMhZptLbvedmHaGAgYf2cpmJrcxy/i2lbhKkEwjU+kmq6NrvC6mx1 WjaDGd5kyWx2O5RKO9Nh/JxCvP6olcPQRcAkAdQrFauW/14KFA4cwjlF6PEEtM85y6PLL4FuI fpmpv9Ez3ieJeEPlpPQPTVbmxKjY5knRNRFxYUGpB0Fi02k5nBZ79/1uo7Hwvs1QJpa/FN8Bl nKHg71DNiapMRWAHDcZI+CDvAQcC62G4dTwzW8gOj90SjEsRmVRr0jaX5trP7ROPiW23bGwYc zqLYr04YvvqdNq4nRmbh1s8K0WdC4AEz2d1NSZicT6UZSVuyZQAuLRQBlDPjr6UwxF4jw70oV bKhhJ2arA9eJBRiQCpeLQiHRoekAbjlhjzXuLiu/SG9DTsKZWAEziWcF7qOJLHu7On7zllT3N a427OSsryYxt3BqclhMs1K2hwNXe6n/VbvHegE68RRf4RE6yjA2fWIOsxTG7VjdrNUvsMS3yA ExlG3ratoQpTkp8laNpLFemQm5Qu07pZmuanySF7HesQ/pSE+XXpnhstfcofuXifYJwS6D8tL 4jpBPBvA4AaUOxWjGhu0XmXv+YgZ49v2AiXzL/FvBYOL0juWP1hWoNCw0PNR/fbnQ9tNQXaSg uG+gHqkW8zwKJEYyTSY8zqnT54z5TFyu1IcaNUxc9XEjjiVNqnDiTXRSwUJ/uQ0TbluvxpzwO g1OE9osN7PiwXMDrLSrAtH4CiCyBFZQhugg2/B8GP83RCAjVjkOOUD2JYfc4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DDnm6dG5z3yV9 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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I have to patch the sources, recompile world and kernel and reinstall them to make it work. It would be nice if these patches were integrated in the main sources of FreeBSD. Details are available here: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi= ?id=3D239240 On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:36:39 -0600 Kirk Coombs wrote: > > > > On Aug 30, 2019, at 10:27, Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 23:36:38 +1000 MJ wrote: > > > >> On 30/08/2019 8:28 pm, Pierre Dupond wrote: > >>> > >> It may very well be: > >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D239240 > > > > Effectively I have the same symptoms as those described > > in the bug report. > > > > In my case it is annoying but not too much since this machine > > is a server which should be always up and always connected. > > I have discovered the problem since it still in the installation > > procedure when the switch where it is connected is sometime switched o= ff. > > > > I would be happy however if a patch is published. > > I had a different issue with an Intel NIC on 12.0-RELEASE. It would go d= own > when under heavy usage, with similar console messages, and nothing but a > reboot would clear it up (a "service netif restart" didn't help). I > switched to net/intel-em-kmod from the ports and I've had no issues sinc= e. > > Kirk =2D- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 14 14:56:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA681AA529 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf36.google.com (mail-qv1-xf36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DPhS5y3Gz4H7d for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf36.google.com with SMTP id cg2so2431179qvb.10 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 06:56:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OEyZajYc6fA3Ii1mT2s54V05i3/HLwz2/w2ArI9sGxE=; b=jh/7THDcK/IHruNcgC8+aDA9upM+Pmsry07lvQbeeMDliXOnxCFOcen+6WQjYChEIu B8ulbmyXv4JWgKzW8wYRlDsjCEEW/jnD2Kp19y0M5luIrJTWLich4AGeM32yYsfuOfj/ sPsWj05Q7kIOaRoCVIMvLC8Sd9m3xBj2G5KzZUHUGjAqpuIie9fu1l9MVTbHqV4eISeg HSSINZMXEzwHCyOAIapqAeDnHxzqMojVkEHrF7Fx0au8VmRYOlEtMU93PP+mUNlkyhBs kElCU5Ihzvd8zw2FP+6LAVh6416aol9GZMT9Hb9Kai4BHtSNlK0mA020Cu3WH6wMNb+c qyPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OEyZajYc6fA3Ii1mT2s54V05i3/HLwz2/w2ArI9sGxE=; b=Q+fcM8ah/Vz6vYpyWBLpLemelqkx3y2PKuJBV5ESfD2fQvzh2YIcjayXyKbDnVlQUY puZgkJm7EW/4bfbl70YvPSzx8yzUoL4K8YhM4/OSt2saJGUQNqHvSZZl6aVEjdKzQO58 lrHGBPdi3j674ah3W5R2fJ09eT54aO5bR2cxpA9lickukx22iiSa9AyiwFkJgA6pl/f9 5gHvEf/UuAKGUIOes1B39PvLdzROKTLNW+g7pCFZ33WKNJNpkgyGQCPe6IuULQ3jbtd7 +M2vY4RMw/cK0A3hyqvK0D8s28WusLj22pZBjdyYhEBCl7t2NEgFu5f624kHCANpz23D sAVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWns12S0Maz525cDMpL11wapM10AWqD2cnxtVa1ZAuG+zG5ggAU 37f+4V6BdeQfQRCKju0feyltM9mQtbmfhQ8mlDf4qFq9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwYKWS5jMPMdkNLUxeMh3KRSg5raLqUhf+FxjY3YVdztzB/Nx3NNkiO+gfz3BT6+vF+jwl5VL4KXAlf3ou0WLI= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:8061:: with SMTP id 88mr8447508qva.62.1573743415156; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 06:56:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6214:92d:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 06:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: B J Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:56:54 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Strange devfs Warnings To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DPhS5y3Gz4H7d X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jh/7THDc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of va6bmj@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=va6bmj@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.32), asn: 15169(-1.99), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:56:58 -0000 I have a laptop machine that's giving me some strange warnings about devfs. When I installed the version of FreeBSD that runs on it, as well as Xfce as the desktop, I edited /etc/devfs.rules with: [localrules = 5] add path 'da*' mode 0600 group operator and added this to /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" (I started doing this several years ago with an earlier version of FreeBSD with Gnome 2 as the desktop so that I could mount USB drives.) I get the following while booting the machine: /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_init_rulesets: could not read rules from /etc/defaults/devfs.rules /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset I'm not sure what's going on and what I should do to fix this. The reason I'm asking is that I want to set up that laptop machine to run a scanner and a printer and I believe I have to edit /etc/devfs.rules for that. B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 14 16:23:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85481ACE1A for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DRcq3yW6z480S for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E9DA60F1; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b559CselBeXu; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1424CA617D; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xAEGNnG5076854 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:23:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: Strange devfs Warnings To: B J References: From: Per Hedeland Cc: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <1225849c-78d0-8ab9-2092-8565d80f84cf@hedeland.org> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:23:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DRcq3yW6z480S X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.202.68.64.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.26)[-0.256,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.41)[-0.410,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.52)[ip: (0.81), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.14), asn: 16686(1.74), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:23:56 -0000 On 2019-11-14 15:56, B J wrote: > I have a laptop machine that's giving me some strange warnings about devfs. > > When I installed the version of FreeBSD that runs on it, as well as > Xfce as the desktop, I edited /etc/devfs.rules with: > > [localrules = 5] The spaces around '=' here are causing the "you must specify ..." warnings. devfs.rules(5) says: In the brackets should be the name of the ruleset and its number, separated by an equal sign. > add path 'da*' mode 0600 group operator > > and added this to /etc/rc.conf: > > devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" > > (I started doing this several years ago with an earlier version of > FreeBSD with Gnome 2 as the desktop so that I could mount USB drives.) > > I get the following while booting the machine: > > /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_init_rulesets: could not read rules > from /etc/defaults/devfs.rules Hm, /etc/defaults/devfs.rules is only readable by root: -rw------- 1 root wheel 2466 Dec 7 2018 /etc/defaults/devfs.rules - but surely /etc/rc.d/devfs is run as root when you boot... - strange. FWIW, I have (on 12.0-RELEASE) a similar setup (as do probably many others, since it's basically the man page example), and while I can verify the breakage from spaces around '=', i don't get any warning about /etc/defaults/devfs.rules. Do you actually have that file? > /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number > /etc/rc.d/devfs: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset > > I'm not sure what's going on and what I should do to fix this. The > reason I'm asking is that I want to set up that laptop machine to run > a scanner and a printer and I believe I have to edit /etc/devfs.rules > for that. Well, you *may* need something in /etc/devfs.rules, but I doubt that it is what you currently have there. /dev/da* is for SCSI devices (see da(4)), and perhaps (but not likely) your scanner and printer present themselves as such - but as far as I can see, the only effect of your line would be to remove group read access, since the default permissions are: crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x9a Oct 2 02:47 /dev/da0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0x9b Oct 2 02:47 /dev/da0s1 Back when I had a USB-connected printer/scanner combo, I used add path 'usb/*' mode 666 - a bit "lax", but it was OK for my purposes. If you print/scan over the network (as I do these days), you don't need anything there. --Per Hedeland From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 14 17:34:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9AF1AEB4E for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qk1-x729.google.com (mail-qk1-x729.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::729]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DTBM3l5Xz4XnZ for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-qk1-x729.google.com with SMTP id z23so5666472qkj.10 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:34:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hKJjF4kEjUX0Jf0ZCHoa6vZbZx1m2fc7hS5s4o4FQjk=; b=GTZyJqv8cSxZ6S4b+b/Gs5X51n7c/xOudRB3yDd18PUFFxsWlbBCEqvRMDxNFxgxVT PxXhIw3TiipjYqCB0AchEEAmradp/c83HaLZQAaoJ31/OQSqvU/CnrRfNUBnIf7i77Kk FZR81dUwReuDKQfeZe/bKEdraineeV9blWlJY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hKJjF4kEjUX0Jf0ZCHoa6vZbZx1m2fc7hS5s4o4FQjk=; b=WUAaBO1FOQokEopdceh0X73kf2LIQKNLn69diwwc+6YdlD9hgQjIQ68dKTaEbMZOSX AxWxokEelEZZkf1Q/rPRm2Xug4SJCR7B09y/MhvdvWma1CeJ9xP9SY7FBVKPFuKbQ39D 982zKCWOCuHRlOlRZIA4Qt8F5L5kGZXX8S3WULvvRCIWWhWU5LjSHB/5MO1RitNHvBzO xxKN/E2knirR2BJ/dlohwfWWIXLKK9ON7uNGN+pNb3tXVQ3/0Z8br3zgwwy2XLlEtpMb rshFuri2A5HwaQ/Vs31I7Injot16phQ2H9JZfTjQphz1ufZf+iSrudlStgEpIfZE9+b4 YnRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUX7xra34n9R3OLeZJD78PZkHuSC5ngCc5cjz2TLupL6irGBEbl 3D0QrbdpQWSFp9WtqSLSROvSep+0Ibg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyrTDIvPfbTHu6idTGcDFruN2Gp6NX7xq3zEmhG5dgzWA+uEkvzM8VWyR4wSdW29ITRrqpibg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1282:: with SMTP id w2mr8880436qki.161.1573752873915; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q16sm2854856qkm.27.2019.11.14.09.34.32 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47DTBG5Hf9z3ww9 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:34:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 12:34:28 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD 12.1 on XPS 8930 Message-ID: <20191114123428.000003cb@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DTBM3l5Xz4XnZ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=GTZyJqv8; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::729 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.22 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-9.22), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.32), asn: 15169(-1.99), country: US(-0.05)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:34:36 -0000 I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 onto a Dell XPS 8930 PC. I had to shut off secure boot in order to get the PC to use the CD I created. This was a “Boot Only” CD. I intended to install via the net, like I always do. Shortly after the CD boots up, this message is displayed, ad infinitum: uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished It is impossible for me to install FreeBSD because of this. Since I have never had this happen before, I assume it is something local to this PC. I Googled and came up with nothing. Can anyone assist me? If not, I am going to end up with a semi-expensive paper weight. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 14 18:45:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD1C1B0444 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com (mail-ot1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DVmY4vMNz3x6h for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id n19so1976345otk.2 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NAvpZM4+vkZenvMR2jeZ0FZfJSkMiX2m/NrJyaGOL9A=; b=UYGTf6X5+JnSdyKsdaS2HtNqbHYZ027kAigPfQtQLJJDNiTUMSpPF4Dpj6EFnzujEl 5IBepbkNWNIYEeVF131wFRsVEqD9sg3RgtAbcSueWRLCaMrU6fweAwnkVvlzSd5yfIO0 hTarek+TkvCCqy6uLPI7fPJsqZek4K9laiu9FmEGavgA6Pa/5x0oi7ZuSqqOivdzvFV0 dM2F0g7nVJvq4cds/bCoNoX0+Zu00FyHFw/FzvGhfx29x0Km7VVvoHr7IODE4CIufHUE 0MgLJGPYi9NLdh/xculElWEpv6MLx/Ob6KnpxJApbEkWAaCni6u8l6lyz0rVqQ45FVl1 rCUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NAvpZM4+vkZenvMR2jeZ0FZfJSkMiX2m/NrJyaGOL9A=; b=sJI1UVD5DJ1q6mGgc6UTM34IGpGW+3ybgLr+MbjBGe5Ha2qH0rw8xRVfyi1rRvkct7 yOomSdwTyX6E+WWb4rz8csA22nL9SOIfdXJcXiZBv83blV7YTjEfuJCTi359QRxvhl8V LecRS2B/LJr/PSJ1GIiMT6pv7O2EhQDFJNeMQ4v7Zpr8wjkxdVSQ5Y+e8DhF7SE3nPOe 1dnP2XeGq4/yYxbRT++74oavZ0dOLzb22Ljioxx3FK2O+AcUlFkGTq9NKQTbaYEKL/sn f64kb671uYvpyfjnknPfrKBj393k6f8AOpOG00I+kalE+bqRoTuwOyv3cD0OnFEaHbHZ KnQw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW5mfpRia5JQ2Vp6RucW0Zt/X2yR+cIDPjBzMakfvnhx0yI78l6 3tgS0WNz+y+qdG49fEzKkXo0vA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzfvaqtfmdGpb4cpOq+gEdDJ7FM73CMcu3EBa01sZnRp3b6pTzcKGgQS3SHOwMlhqwVhwpO/g== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3677:: with SMTP id w110mr9028187otb.258.1573757148205; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi1-f174.google.com (mail-oi1-f174.google.com. [209.85.167.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l3sm2072332otc.71.2019.11.14.10.45.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f174.google.com with SMTP id m193so6259190oig.0; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:c6d0:: with SMTP id w199mr4687152oif.78.1573757147048; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:45:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191114123428.000003cb@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20191114123428.000003cb@seibercom.net> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 19:45:35 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD 12.1 on XPS 8930 To: Jerry , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Hans Petter Selasky Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DVmY4vMNz3x6h X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:45:49 -0000 On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:34 PM Jerry wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 onto a Dell XPS 8930 PC. I had to > shut off secure boot in order to get the PC to use the CD I created. > This was a =E2=80=9CBoot Only=E2=80=9D CD. I intended to install via the = net, like I > always do. > > Shortly after the CD boots up, this message is displayed, ad infinitum: > > uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished > > It is impossible for me to install FreeBSD because of this. Since I > have never had this happen before, I assume it is something local to > this PC. > > I Googled and came up with nothing. Can anyone assist me? If not, I am > going to end up with a semi-expensive paper weight. Hey Jerry, looks like something wrong with USB, maybe someone at the freebsd-usb or HPS (CC) will know the issue / solution :-) In the meantime I would try with USB/MemStick image instead of ISO/CD just to make sure the problem is not with USB-CD device. --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 14 22:54:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4EE1B54DC for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from budijanto@studiokaraoke.co.id) Received: from mx2-isat.idweb.host (mx2-isat.idweb.host [114.57.247.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DcHS0RkMz4JdK for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from budijanto@studiokaraoke.co.id) X-Spam-Status: No X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA-Watermark: 1574376856.29827@ZgKI+j8D6A1RjzbeSq7zRg X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA-From: budijanto@studiokaraoke.co.id X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA-SpamScore: s X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA: Found to be clean X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA-ID: 86D95200A78.A12A9 X-jogjacamp-MailScanner-EFA-Information: Please contact igun@jogjacamp.co.id for more information Received: from kadipiro.idweb.host (kadipiro.idweb.host [114.57.247.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2-isat.idweb.host (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86D95200A78 for ; 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No error reporting from dmesg or /var/log/messages root@MTS-DB-P1:~ # ping -c5 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes ^C --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss Need clue for this problem, Thank you. Note: Cable, Switch already good condition. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 15 02:56:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C2D1BA1FA for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deng.dayat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DjgD47HRz4bGp for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deng.dayat@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id e9so7348913oif.8 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tcPebBzbsvHU9MlUSKqaQx4S0XR/ZYwAhJTN6Vw5IQw=; b=JfYE6wnz8X1kfLERpymJzv2/S7H37rwAEmtNlFXF+XvwRbLnoCDWTTG/NNh/hW/7RY VSeDstm9+MEwoi8YGDM6oWFIGm0l2L53SEUx5Pt2QFngGJMm6WVPvGNkAYKzHu4crSYt 4iyFfDvNiQibjsKgc5t0E5mw47d2WqBlzYzEBf7Jn7es1ir9IsErgEZ4XB4eR3uhZRC3 g2MMms3qzlS37MdeMBS3Ydbib9MhLzTe22SdaF2YdG6HN1p8h7kOg3qdRYgxNPg7Devy fdW7tYYeD0GIYLSGHHWpeG/Til9Kjsi4Sag3kg/k+Cxzrqyt/jH3rUfUwDzhe3bBSgcu bfBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tcPebBzbsvHU9MlUSKqaQx4S0XR/ZYwAhJTN6Vw5IQw=; b=AYh7Z2L/d/GXmf5MEMcxTQ5NY2M546KLi3m+dP7wHM8/x1zLzy3iMl4w/zbXcdSm6q 0fjNBwqsWIPJ6Nfd46LQze8sqXEhTJwq722pJOieZgB4gzntcinHc1gR855BAxXH6KNs mGp7sAjWFGH0kVb9Z+usPf135cArgUgMsKay0Fj0x/ni+qrZ1KOTqAEn+cUamNESDBB4 /5MtHi5YPesiOPRRam4e/4YfU+NsrtFsJoXOuZuoxX6X6kRabj8OYy1+i6drCrMnsgCt vQu4c7VKIL4H3/78iMCBCwUKMScrj2mCKjW0bnOtqNF2TOegX9Wh3AfkgWEDWWeiCUph eoKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXBm8w8y65vIc2XjQ9QeOW7xstICHryqNhHRrZU0E7VaW4+mz8W FLaWkbTbnWKDa8ElE1TFtMhIKtkKkWtqOiVNhrmgtM7D X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzbzYMrDB139zcQgXb8FFeYag8BpX+R0NlvJaTnVW+XvsXNmYd6MPJDZ9hVoWN1jujR5Hq6zBUSfTCS3aT/wt8= X-Received: by 2002:aca:c393:: with SMTP id t141mr5948769oif.94.1573786614555; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:56:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: deng daya Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:56:40 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: BIND 9.9.10-P3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47DjgD47HRz4bGp X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JfYE6wnz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dengdayat@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dengdayat@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.95 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(1.05)[14]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.22), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.32), asn: 15169(-1.99), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 02:56:57 -0000 Hi All I have a question After install BIND 9.9.10-P3 for my slave server but when I tranfer domain from master server I received weird file zone All domain that I received How can i fix this all zone file? 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Its been this way for years and years. You can configure BIND to store files in text format instead of raw format. masterfile-format text; To check the contents you can configure BIND to allow a 'dig @localhost zone.com axfr' Or you can convert the files from raw format to text format via this KB https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00608 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 15 11:15:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CF51C387F for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DwkR0nnxz3Fhb for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DE32D1C387E; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA671C387D for ; 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:15:28 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 8.4 box (yes, I know what you are about to say, but trust me, I am doing it before Christmas!) that suddenly stopped sending the daily|security run outputs. Is there an easy way to find out why? PS: I am planning on hardware change before I migrate it to FreeBSD 12. :-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 15 11:32:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0591C3D66 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47Dx6F15s4z455Y for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 23E4A1C3D65; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5E1C3D64 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Dx6D216pz454R for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DADA12D93 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:32:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86EEC1B3CA; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:32:30 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.0 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:32:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20191115.203211.107972320181624443.yasu@utahime.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: daily|security run outputs From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Dx6D216pz454R X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.23 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.34)[-0.344,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.35)[ip: (0.20), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.10), asn: 2519(1.42), country: JP(0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:32:37 -0000 From: Odhiambo Washington Subject: daily|security run outputs Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:14:46 +0300 > I have a FreeBSD 8.4 box (yes, I know what you are about to say, but trust > me, I am doing it before Christmas!) that suddenly stopped sending the > daily|security run outputs. > Is there an easy way to find out why? Is cron(8) process running on that machine? Because periodic job is executed as cron job, it isn't executed if cron isn't working. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 16 17:34:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0AA1A9FB5 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Fj5C66DWz3wZp for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD6022015 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:34:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= fm1; bh=RmqohygELrVdCE+JN/pWjveGcCHOPb7jhtcy6umT0B0=; b=EShUusQo kQyf8ONiaYSnghhKuhkYSNLOyFw+HGULgqwAu65OmLL+LE5/8Gs5kMdfaKJChrI8 Pm4hyeU5kw5JCb3PSD4VH+ya/xTY75UUwqmEUXyoOoaB6RjT86hs/3IkKRk50Dl9 FcWGn1wUMr4QirgRs5Ewdz5b8aWH/Dau94INuNiIh5yx8phhDFvKEYlY/gTZVD1W yBd1O4dkAZvJVsuCSN3bJHotBKpgFtOiENZ3xYP8t8RpN73TB56RocAo1IcMKNpy JgzAzsyigyAEKobc419OM31yNmoarFBPCfkY456rwCw1C8hrB8k9YcsZWYpRtnTj 7hk2Sb8XaRaD+A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=RmqohygELrVdCE+JN/pWjveGcCHOP b7jhtcy6umT0B0=; b=vvFduLMG5Iz5Bt9sprrilSsK/P7eOg1gd1NT0kOrFqe8l 2jAinGFZQV3u1EPbHwY2L4aACRUuTstAfcidNABB2xYKQxdmOG5HOuy6B4GhEHzV ZordZh5lNbfWW5Xr4zF6uMBqk2xIU8N7h8HEdaQPUUpD4RUB1KSfcNuasGNxSyyQ 4SpuynI5Bc3Jvm2c9ZNDjKtroJ/ah6PNscsVvoLDn5MI9ZYvfIHNULrFBXf6TXYy qgT9Ate8HW3XEKXpC72GbY0tBY2/IvIAwX88eRFZWGktkznIrrfaBlhORJcKzO/i hQ4m4NfPLLZOWDD8hRUIgXt9yXXc9pG0lFYvPZVPg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudefledgkedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkgggtuggfsehgtderre dtredvnecuhfhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshcuoehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshesiiih gihsthdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeekvddrjedtrdeluddrleelnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrih hlfhhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshesiiihgihsthdrnhgvthenucevlhhushhtvghr ufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from bastion.zyxst.net (bastion.zyxst.net [82.70.91.99]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EF460306005C for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:34:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:33:51 +0000 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: consequences with pkgs of freebsd-update upgrade? 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During = the process, I see this: [...] # /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install src component not installed, skipped Installing updates... Completing this upgrade requires removing old shared object files. Please rebuild all installed 3rd party software (e.g., programs installed from the ports tree) and then run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update insta= ll" again to finish installing updates. [...] I use poudriere on another machine to maintain ports as packages for this u= pgraded one. 1. do I need to reinstall all packages? 2. do I need to upgrade the poudriere jail first to match the client machine version? thanks, --=20 J. --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl3QMxIACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWmfA//dlhCPl0p0iP5VL3IANdUPqIP9ZQkVfRAQ2QIa28YSpwuVYWDJtC4hG2m xx7HlmXvy0MrjDbTtbi/nx8dm9/kBS76F/y12OFqcpYBf7GMYXrUtahhkDlMnEm6 uLEmvulySyPICpZrq/SVs1fILvtzypj25AGUhpr/L4387aa0KvjohxuwLDXa7qDz dEEQ4GGWiiwmZhvYaIRLypF6YiTzfzGQB+oJlb68g1KDfVcuBv2r37xwGTfgNUuu VwsrtGfUuJvPZ3H8g+ZgVqFFpDpXadKiYJLBYuyRSuOT1GIJPwHz9g5JBRE3NyBF hFt5sp5GaPDkMB4bo/ZgaVgd8MidvzH+UdQWWmUXKkPexTg9xiNlt6a/1DiQGg4Q Z7tRWt+kwUw90tRn1CJPW9PJUzTj1O8JoFAbj/wsJ9d/1hsNQwwLnWBTIA9+FSmi qdeqLcq7vA6lbwXWiVchWevebyc/mK9+ofIc8pE1lN27eukI9V/Zq0bSx29dM+72 4SQM/GuKK/VYg+9rDqLBRNC1xdpQ4KOn/s9jypbwqZHtd6mJJHwrSr5Pfikh12W2 bvT7H6wY8PZYWgIUFcyxOkA9pVd//sdaFvc2vdfpM6HTTlGPE/J9S92hwRRZBTkD V0ryldy8oH738K00s71Ddevya8QqXPv1PwhkNaT9OHHdg2gWc+M= =xFxq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 16 18:47:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485D1AB869 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 18:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FkjF2fkXz4Ckv for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 18:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.142.207]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33A0D4E666; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:31:14 -0600 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3601.0.10\)) Subject: Re: consequences with pkgs of freebsd-update upgrade? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20191116173351.GA19947@bastion.zyxst.net> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:31:12 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C961C3D-06ED-4D06-AEFB-E97F795C973C@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20191116173351.GA19947@bastion.zyxst.net> To: tech-lists X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47FkjF2fkXz4Ckv X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[207.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[207.142.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.987,0]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ip: (0.38), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.19), asn: 160(0.15), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 18:47:14 -0000 > On Nov 16, 2019, at 11:33 AM, tech-lists wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I use freebsd-update upgrade to upgrade a server from 12.0 to 12.1. = During the > process, I see this: >=20 > [...] > # /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install > src component not installed, skipped > Installing updates... > Completing this upgrade requires removing old shared object files. > Please rebuild all installed 3rd party software (e.g., programs > installed from the ports tree) and then run "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update = install" > again to finish installing updates. > [...] >=20 > I use poudriere on another machine to maintain ports as packages for = this upgraded one. >=20 > 1. do I need to reinstall all packages? > 2. do I need to upgrade the poudriere jail first to match the client = machine > version? >=20 yes to everything. Basically, you first need to upgrade poudriere = machine to the latest base system using freebsd-update, and upgrade all = packages on it (poudriere being one of them). Then rebuild all packages = you maintain using poudriere. Then upgrade the other system, and = re-install all packages on it. Experts will chime in if I=E2=80=99m missing something. Valeri > thanks, > --=20 > J. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++