From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 02:51:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F04B2AA396 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vypY3YmQz4DWF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=antonovs.family; s=20200215; t=1586055033; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2gg4eeXFqgZFzvsIbl8G+bjTaL5HYq5BqdPg/2nJuzo=; b=A7ZxxZSSd3D1Qm38kZlvU4jdQAsxfdR+Z9cTpbLyLLnzKfdb59mm0TOCZ0ZvxIVwIM3I95 phN1lnaZci090bGDOd2dVpUyvS4eJoiAAV+QdEpyToChx7sClEjv4P3mOn+dWSpHDho+MR RBzQbJAyk3kFWK8uTIpG55+jheKp5/c= Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 25f96d19 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:50:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Ihor Antonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current best FreeBSD hosting services Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 19:50:21 -0700 Message-ID: <2523896.mvXUDI8C0e@sea-ll-10936> In-Reply-To: <24199.19346.666044.877330@alice.local> References: <20200402191340.vs4id5i3j7uscppv@sea-ll-10936> <24199.19346.666044.877330@alice.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vypY3YmQz4DWF X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=antonovs.family header.s=20200215 header.b=A7ZxxZSS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[antonovs.family:s=20200215]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.38)[ip: (-9.31), ipnet: 100.24.0.0/13(-4.54), asn: 14618(-3.03), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[antonovs.family:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 02:51:06 -0000 On Friday, April 3, 2020 7:43:30 AM PDT George Hartzell wrote: > Ihor Antonov writes: > > [...] > > I run a small mail server instance with a monthly total of slightly below > > $20. This includes t3.micro reserved instance + 100 GB EBS volume, > > reserved cache.t3.micro redis for rspamd, and backups on S3 in glacier. > > Did you have any trouble getting AWS to remove the constraints on the > SMTP ports? You need to allocate yourself an Elastic IP address and you need to have a domain name too. Then you go here: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ec2-port-25-throttle/ And request removing limitations for that IP. You will need to specify your the A record of your mail server and they will create a reverse PTR for you. That is all I had to do. -- Ihor Antonov https://useplaintext.email From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 03:21:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C22AAED1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 03:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vzV264Zqz4QQH for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 03:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=antonovs.family; s=20200215; t=1586053281; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2gg4eeXFqgZFzvsIbl8G+bjTaL5HYq5BqdPg/2nJuzo=; b=iYxFGEMQYkOth2ml3SWAWFguo/qqEMVP9u5s6fL1ZyXxuk8xLNTcoFqZeCIBoTroI/UIYj LfW8hvPsBmY/84meRbQEBk/Qm/ol/BfsvVtpNXHHFJiA9KwUiWmPSM4zzDva5bLGjoHpyv xbFbu9TP3Pt2XJH0nev01qiQMFdh60U= Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id c18b29eb (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:21:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Ihor Antonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current best FreeBSD hosting services Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 19:21:13 -0700 Message-ID: <5460332.DvuYhMxLoT@sea-ll-10936> In-Reply-To: <24199.19346.666044.877330@alice.local> References: <20200402191340.vs4id5i3j7uscppv@sea-ll-10936> <24199.19346.666044.877330@alice.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vzV264Zqz4QQH X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=antonovs.family header.s=20200215 header.b=iYxFGEMQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[antonovs.family:s=20200215]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[195.240.25.100.list.dnswl.org:query timed out]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RBL_SARBL_BAD_FAIL(0.00)[query timed out]; SEM_URIBL_UNKNOWN_FAIL(0.00)[query timed out]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[antonovs.family:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.34)[ip: (-9.16), ipnet: 100.24.0.0/13(-4.46), asn: 14618(-3.03), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 03:21:49 -0000 On Friday, April 3, 2020 7:43:30 AM PDT George Hartzell wrote: > Ihor Antonov writes: > > [...] > > I run a small mail server instance with a monthly total of slightly below > > $20. This includes t3.micro reserved instance + 100 GB EBS volume, > > reserved cache.t3.micro redis for rspamd, and backups on S3 in glacier. > > Did you have any trouble getting AWS to remove the constraints on the > SMTP ports? You need to allocate yourself an Elastic IP address and you need to have a domain name too. Then you go here: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ec2-port-25-throttle/ And request removing limitations for that IP. You will need to specify your the A record of your mail server and they will create a reverse PTR for you. That is all I had to do. -- Ihor Antonov https://useplaintext.email From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 09:39:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05BD2B1751 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (fournil.foucry.net [95.217.83.231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48w7sy5KqSz3HQC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8EE4B877 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:38:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1586079537; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7wTLgUCQh5GQFcvOT+piiVFHZIr3cadHUGv48bgZkT4=; b=DoYHl1GkY77EI7s/vCLQa68KS/N7UTpjpiDXiPBzUDZjl1ZvVONuAyDXQ4y59miOWb/kGK SwTNfBbDclHjC9VY0OOfB2mYu7drwjjw7TOZy2krZvCMcAf2Kc+2JulnTC5UvobnQNo8LY vRDOq3qPN3381bieHAwSUh0UwOoIPdk= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3958818304 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 11:38:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 11:38:55 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: icingaweb2 and nginx are in jail Message-ID: <20200405093855.GA75638@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200401161914.GA7923@mithril.foucry.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200401161914.GA7923@mithril.foucry.net> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.10 X-Rspamd-Server: mail.foucry.net X-Spam-Score: -0.10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48w7sy5KqSz3HQC X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b=DoYHl1Gk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=foucry.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net designates 95.217.83.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[foucry.net:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[foucry.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[foucry.net,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[ipnet: 95.217.0.0/16(4.06), asn: 24940(-1.57), country: DE(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:95.217.0.0/16, country:DE]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 09:39:28 -0000 Le mercredi 01 avr. 2020 à 18:19:14 (+0200), Jacques Foucry à écrit: > Hello folks, > > I try since now 2 weeks to make working icingaweb2 in a jail with nginx as > http server and php-fpm but it don't work. Seems nobody can help me… That's life. > > The log is pretty clear: > `/usr/local/www/icingaweb2/public/css/icinga.min.css` > > which is true there is no .css in ちhis directory bur .less kind of css. > icingaweb2 *SHOULD* create the correct ccs _on the fly_. > > I cannot figure whatśs going wrong. > > In `/usr/local/etc/icingweb2` I only have the setup.token file. > > The ngnix configuration was made with the icingacli utility: > > ``` > server { > listen 80 default_server; > listen [::]:80; > server_name icinga.example.com > root /usr/local/www/icingaweb2/public; > index index.php; > charset utf-8; > default_type application/octet-stream; > access_log /var/log/nginx/icinga.access.log; > error_log /var/log/nginx/icinga.error.log; > > location ~ ^/icingaweb2/index\.php(.*)$ { > fastcgi_pass 127.0.1.29:9000; > try_files $uri /index.php =404; > #fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php-fpm.sock; > fastcgi_index index.php; > include fastcgi_params; > fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/www/icingaweb2/public/index.php; > fastcgi_param ICINGAWEB_CONFIGDIR /usr/local/etc/icingaweb2; > fastcgi_param REMOTE_USER $remote_user; > } > > location ~ ^/icingaweb2(.+)? { > alias /usr/local/www/icingaweb2/public; > index index.php; > try_files $1 $uri $uri/ /icingaweb2/index.php$is_args$args; > } > > } > ``` > > Note: 127.0.20.1 is the loopback ip for this jail > > The SSL part is done by the host > > PHP-FPM run: > www php-fpm 94221 6 tcp4 127.0.1.20:9000 *:* > www php-fpm 94220 6 tcp4 127.0.1.20:9000 *:* > root php-fpm 94219 8 tcp4 127.0.1.20:9000 *:* > > So, if someone could help me, give me some advice, it will be really > appreciate. > > -- > > Jacques Foucry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---end quoted text--- -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 13:07:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440702B6BB7; 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Sun, 05 Apr 2020 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Tomasz CEDRO , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports References: From: Ruslan Garipov Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 18:07:00 +0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wDTt4dWhz3M3p X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=UvyDqiQI; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ruslanngaripov@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ruslanngaripov@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; 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This will be used > for testing kernel patches and driver development/fixes. > > The goal is to have separate zroot/ROOT/stable to select and act as > the FreeBSD base. So far I have zroot/ROOT/default to use FreeBSD > 12.1-RELEASE. I would like to switch between those to on boot to have > one base system stable for working and another base system for testing > on real environment. > > I noticed that simple copy of /boot/kernel does not work on my target > machine. Thus I am trying to create a whole release, put a separate > system base, then on boot select different zfs container base to boot > from. I just love ZFS for that! I may even use snapshots to log and > rollback changes. > > Questions: > > 1. Is it a good build / testing environment? Maybe there is a simpler > / better way to cross compile binaries and test on another machine? > Both are using 12.1-RELEASE AMD64 installations so far. All /usr/local > should work both with 12.1-RELEASE and 12-STABLE right? Both machines have the same architecture, therefore it is not a cross build, I believe. For my direct builds (both build and consumer machines are x86-64) I use the procedure described in the handbook (``23.6. Tracking for Multiple Machines''[1]). > > 2. When that works, I would like to cross-compile for ARM in a similar > manner, then attach pyOCD + GDB to debug ARM target. I guess that > should work too as above? > > 3. During /usr/src/release/release.sh I get following error as pasted > below. Does release.sh update /usr/ports just as it snaps from svn or > it will use the /usr/porst that are just there and I need to provide > /usr/ports in a state that will be bindled into a /scratch release? A quote from release(7) man page: release.sh checks out the src/, ports/, and doc/ trees to CHROOTDIR... Therefore, release(7) "ignores" /usr/ports and uses ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports. My build machine doesn't have access to the Internet, therefore, I have to define the PORTS_UPDATE_SKIP variable and provide ports tree into the ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports before I will call /usr/src/release/release.sh. > > ===> docproj-2.0_14 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building > ===> Extracting for pkg-1.14.2 > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > => freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch > https://codeload.github.com/freebsd/pkg/tar.gz/1.14.2?dummy=/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz > freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz Bad system call (core dumped) /usr/src/release/release.sh defines DISTDIR=/tmp/distfiles when it installs the textproc/docproj port or a port from the ${EMBEDDEDPORTS}. As for why fetch(1) fails with bad system call under chrooted environment -- I don't know. I failed on a port fetching only if I hadn't provided all necessary distfiles. You have checksum error message which is causing refetching of the ports-mgmt/pkg port. Therefore, I believe ${CHROOTDIR}/tmp/distfiles/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz exists on your file system (remained from a previous fetch try?)... May be you should try fetch(1) from the chrooted environment manually, to get any content? > => Attempting to fetch > http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz > freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz Bad system call (core dumped) > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /tmp/distfiles/ and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Any hints and comments are welcome :-) > Tomek > [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/small-lan.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 13:40:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7BC2B7A3D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wFDM2h8Jz43pV for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E1817C05 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 15:40:24 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586094024; bh=C7J2R5hxR4y5rSLG+kuZR4b4mn+mCU8SXBFPLGW7bJg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=e9VscDV+hluelSFOhQGKyN5AnKvINlbEvADp0C98A8SghX/1yIWyh2LVYAg0ni9JL CB0cFOWpXXdkBMO2F0uHta1qXyAFSwMMTQsCBEa1w8N6jQCDYcqlTd4BQ5VDWQ+yA7 +A25PE+x1eX+Wv23W9xF6oXrecVfM9J1NEHODY94= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F263F17C04 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 15:40:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586094024; bh=C7J2R5hxR4y5rSLG+kuZR4b4mn+mCU8SXBFPLGW7bJg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=e9VscDV+hluelSFOhQGKyN5AnKvINlbEvADp0C98A8SghX/1yIWyh2LVYAg0ni9JL CB0cFOWpXXdkBMO2F0uHta1qXyAFSwMMTQsCBEa1w8N6jQCDYcqlTd4BQ5VDWQ+yA7 +A25PE+x1eX+Wv23W9xF6oXrecVfM9J1NEHODY94= Subject: Re: ipfw | including external IP txt file To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00c3978d-c350-aec4-76fb-85718c4a6935@cloudzeeland.nl> From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! 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[209.85.210.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 103sm3714201oty.36.2020.04.05.06.53.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Apr 2020 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f45.google.com with SMTP id a49so12470230otc.11; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:20e4:: with SMTP id x91mr12272260ota.6.1586094790805; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 15:52:51 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Ruslan Garipov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wFW36nRXz48xR X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Fzns9AVi; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::343) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.08)[ip: (0.40), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 13:53:27 -0000 Hello Ruslav and thank you for your feedback! :-) On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 3:07 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: > On 4/4/2020 7:50 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > 1. Is it a good build / testing environment? Maybe there is a simpler > > / better way to cross compile binaries and test on another machine? > > Both are using 12.1-RELEASE AMD64 installations so far. All /usr/local > > should work both with 12.1-RELEASE and 12-STABLE right? > Both machines have the same architecture, therefore it is not a cross > build, I believe. For my direct builds (both build and consumer > machines are x86-64) I use the procedure described in the handbook > (``23.6. Tracking for Multiple Machines''[1]). I know that method, thank you :-) But I also want to try out the binary release, which seems a bit more flexible to have just everything in one place, may be used to install on an external machine without NFS access, etc :-) It would be also nice to know the time cost of those two methods, so I want to verify :-) > > 3. During /usr/src/release/release.sh I get following error as pasted > > below. Does release.sh update /usr/ports just as it snaps from svn or > > it will use the /usr/porst that are just there and I need to provide > > /usr/ports in a state that will be bindled into a /scratch release? > A quote from release(7) man page: > > release.sh checks out the src/, ports/, and doc/ trees to CHROOTDIR... > > Therefore, release(7) "ignores" /usr/ports and uses > ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports. My build machine doesn't have access to the > Internet, therefore, I have to define the PORTS_UPDATE_SKIP variable and > provide ports tree into the ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports before > I will call /usr/src/release/release.sh. Okay, so the build uses totally separate CHROOT in /scratch? I wonder if that "Bad System Call" is caused by my Host tools or the CHROOT tools? It looks like the /scratch has its own compiled in tools not a copy from my host? # diff -u /usr/bin/fetch /scratch/usr/bin/fetch Binary files /usr/bin/fetch and /scratch/usr/bin/fetch differ > > ===> docproj-2.0_14 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found > > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > > ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building > > ===> Extracting for pkg-1.14.2 > > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > > ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building > > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz. > > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz > > ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user > > => freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/distfiles/. > > => Attempting to fetch > > https://codeload.github.com/freebsd/pkg/tar.gz/1.14.2?dummy=/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz > > freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz Bad system call (core dumped) > /usr/src/release/release.sh defines DISTDIR=/tmp/distfiles when it > installs the textproc/docproj port or a port from the ${EMBEDDEDPORTS}. > > As for why fetch(1) fails with bad system call under chrooted > environment -- I don't know. I failed on a port fetching only if I > hadn't provided all necessary distfiles. You have checksum error > message which is causing refetching of the ports-mgmt/pkg port. > Therefore, I believe > ${CHROOTDIR}/tmp/distfiles/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz exists on your > file system (remained from a previous fetch try?)... May be you should > try fetch(1) from the chrooted environment manually, to get any content? This "Bad System Call" stops me from proceeding. I did place by hand the required package in the right place, then it built ok, then I got that "Bad System Call" again on install :-( How can I get the debug symbols in /scratch binaries? So far I can just show: [New LWP 100764] Core was generated by `/usr/bin/fetch -Fpr -S 3405355 http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/free'. Program terminated with signal SIGSYS, Bad system call. #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () #1 0x000000080031d144 in ?? () #2 0x000000080031d260 in ?? () #3 0x0000000000000008 in ?? () #4 0xb650b69b3fd03fb8 in ?? () #5 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () #6 0x00007fffffffe64c in ?? () #7 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () #8 0x00000000002091e0 in ?? () #9 0x00007fffffffdc80 in ?? () #10 0x00007fffffffdc40 in ?? () #11 0x000000080031d2f9 in ?? () #12 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () #13 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () #14 0x0000000000000000 in ?? 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Is it a good build / testing environment? Maybe there is a simpler >>> / better way to cross compile binaries and test on another machine? >>> Both are using 12.1-RELEASE AMD64 installations so far. All /usr/local >>> should work both with 12.1-RELEASE and 12-STABLE right? >> Both machines have the same architecture, therefore it is not a cross >> build, I believe. For my direct builds (both build and consumer >> machines are x86-64) I use the procedure described in the handbook >> (``23.6. Tracking for Multiple Machines''[1]). > > I know that method, thank you :-) But I also want to try out the > binary release, which seems a bit more flexible to have just > everything in one place, may be used to install on an external machine > without NFS access, etc :-) > > It would be also nice to know the time cost of those two methods, so I > want to verify :-) > > >>> 3. During /usr/src/release/release.sh I get following error as pasted >>> below. Does release.sh update /usr/ports just as it snaps from svn or >>> it will use the /usr/porst that are just there and I need to provide >>> /usr/ports in a state that will be bindled into a /scratch release? >> A quote from release(7) man page: >> >> release.sh checks out the src/, ports/, and doc/ trees to CHROOTDIR... >> >> Therefore, release(7) "ignores" /usr/ports and uses >> ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports. My build machine doesn't have access to the >> Internet, therefore, I have to define the PORTS_UPDATE_SKIP variable and >> provide ports tree into the ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports before >> I will call /usr/src/release/release.sh. > > Okay, so the build uses totally separate CHROOT in /scratch? Yes. > I wonder > if that "Bad System Call" is caused by my Host tools or the CHROOT > tools? By the chrooted environment within the ${CHROOTDIR} I believe. Otherwise you would get the same error on "host". > > It looks like the /scratch has its own compiled in tools not a copy > from my host? Yes, release(7) builds and installs clean userland into the ${CHROOTDIR} (DESTDIR=${CHROOTDIR}), and doesn't copy it from the "host". > > # diff -u /usr/bin/fetch /scratch/usr/bin/fetch > Binary files /usr/bin/fetch and /scratch/usr/bin/fetch differ > > >>> ===> docproj-2.0_14 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building >>> ===> Extracting for pkg-1.14.2 >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building >>> => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz. >>> ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> => freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/distfiles/. >>> => Attempting to fetch >>> https://codeload.github.com/freebsd/pkg/tar.gz/1.14.2?dummy=/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz >>> freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz Bad system call (core dumped) >> /usr/src/release/release.sh defines DISTDIR=/tmp/distfiles when it >> installs the textproc/docproj port or a port from the ${EMBEDDEDPORTS}. >> >> As for why fetch(1) fails with bad system call under chrooted >> environment -- I don't know. I failed on a port fetching only if I >> hadn't provided all necessary distfiles. You have checksum error >> message which is causing refetching of the ports-mgmt/pkg port. >> Therefore, I believe >> ${CHROOTDIR}/tmp/distfiles/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz exists on your >> file system (remained from a previous fetch try?)... May be you should >> try fetch(1) from the chrooted environment manually, to get any content? > > This "Bad System Call" stops me from proceeding. I did place by hand > the required package in the right place, then it built ok, then I got > that "Bad System Call" again on install :-( > > How can I get the debug symbols in /scratch binaries? You need to provide custom src.conf or/and make.conf to release(7). I, actually, provide make.conf, src.conf and kernel config (not for the debug symbols; just for tuning the target release). > > So far I can just show: > [New LWP 100764] > Core was generated by `/usr/bin/fetch -Fpr -S 3405355 > http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/free'. > Program terminated with signal SIGSYS, Bad system call. > #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () > #1 0x000000080031d144 in ?? () > #2 0x000000080031d260 in ?? () > #3 0x0000000000000008 in ?? () > #4 0xb650b69b3fd03fb8 in ?? () > #5 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () > #6 0x00007fffffffe64c in ?? () > #7 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () > #8 0x00000000002091e0 in ?? () > #9 0x00007fffffffdc80 in ?? () > #10 0x00007fffffffdc40 in ?? () > #11 0x000000080031d2f9 in ?? () > #12 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () > #13 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () > #14 0x0000000000000000 in ?? 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:-) > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 3:07 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: >> On 4/4/2020 7:50 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >>> 1. Is it a good build / testing environment? Maybe there is a simpler >>> / better way to cross compile binaries and test on another machine? >>> Both are using 12.1-RELEASE AMD64 installations so far. All /usr/local >>> should work both with 12.1-RELEASE and 12-STABLE right? >> Both machines have the same architecture, therefore it is not a cross >> build, I believe. For my direct builds (both build and consumer >> machines are x86-64) I use the procedure described in the handbook >> (``23.6. Tracking for Multiple Machines''[1]). > > I know that method, thank you :-) But I also want to try out the > binary release, which seems a bit more flexible to have just > everything in one place, may be used to install on an external machine > without NFS access, etc :-) > > It would be also nice to know the time cost of those two methods, so I > want to verify :-) > > >>> 3. During /usr/src/release/release.sh I get following error as pasted >>> below. Does release.sh update /usr/ports just as it snaps from svn or >>> it will use the /usr/porst that are just there and I need to provide >>> /usr/ports in a state that will be bindled into a /scratch release? >> A quote from release(7) man page: >> >> release.sh checks out the src/, ports/, and doc/ trees to CHROOTDIR... >> >> Therefore, release(7) "ignores" /usr/ports and uses >> ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports. My build machine doesn't have access to the >> Internet, therefore, I have to define the PORTS_UPDATE_SKIP variable and >> provide ports tree into the ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports before >> I will call /usr/src/release/release.sh. > > Okay, so the build uses totally separate CHROOT in /scratch? I wonder > if that "Bad System Call" is caused by my Host tools or the CHROOT > tools? > > It looks like the /scratch has its own compiled in tools not a copy > from my host? > > # diff -u /usr/bin/fetch /scratch/usr/bin/fetch > Binary files /usr/bin/fetch and /scratch/usr/bin/fetch differ I'm sorry, I forgot to ask how do you call /usr/src/release/release.sh? Do you pass a configuration file to this script? By default /usr/src/release/release.sh checks out the source tree for the CURRENT branch (svn://svn.FreeBSD.org/base/head@rHEAD). In this case (if you doesn't change it) chrooted environment definitely will fail to run on STABLE and/or RELEASE. May be it's easy for you to use `make release` directly. > > >>> ===> docproj-2.0_14 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building >>> ===> Extracting for pkg-1.14.2 >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by pkg-1.14.2 for building >>> => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz. >>> ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz >>> ===> License BSD2CLAUSE accepted by the user >>> => freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /tmp/distfiles/. >>> => Attempting to fetch >>> https://codeload.github.com/freebsd/pkg/tar.gz/1.14.2?dummy=/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz >>> freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz Bad system call (core dumped) >> /usr/src/release/release.sh defines DISTDIR=/tmp/distfiles when it >> installs the textproc/docproj port or a port from the ${EMBEDDEDPORTS}. >> >> As for why fetch(1) fails with bad system call under chrooted >> environment -- I don't know. I failed on a port fetching only if I >> hadn't provided all necessary distfiles. You have checksum error >> message which is causing refetching of the ports-mgmt/pkg port. >> Therefore, I believe >> ${CHROOTDIR}/tmp/distfiles/freebsd-pkg-1.14.2_GH0.tar.gz exists on your >> file system (remained from a previous fetch try?)... May be you should >> try fetch(1) from the chrooted environment manually, to get any content? > > This "Bad System Call" stops me from proceeding. I did place by hand > the required package in the right place, then it built ok, then I got > that "Bad System Call" again on install :-( > > How can I get the debug symbols in /scratch binaries? > > So far I can just show: > [New LWP 100764] > Core was generated by `/usr/bin/fetch -Fpr -S 3405355 > http://distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/free'. > Program terminated with signal SIGSYS, Bad system call. > #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x00000008003c1bca in ?? () > #1 0x000000080031d144 in ?? () > #2 0x000000080031d260 in ?? () > #3 0x0000000000000008 in ?? () > #4 0xb650b69b3fd03fb8 in ?? () > #5 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () > #6 0x00007fffffffe64c in ?? () > #7 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () > #8 0x00000000002091e0 in ?? () > #9 0x00007fffffffdc80 in ?? () > #10 0x00007fffffffdc40 in ?? () > #11 0x000000080031d2f9 in ?? () > #12 0x0000000800e1d000 in ?? () > #13 0x00007fffffffdd40 in ?? () > #14 0x0000000000000000 in ?? 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[209.85.210.52]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i7sm475442otl.12.2020.04.05.10.06.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Apr 2020 10:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f52.google.com with SMTP id a6so12831438otb.10; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:20e4:: with SMTP id x91mr12798589ota.6.1586106365411; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <281e95ff-a1c2-c759-2918-783cb8edf1b7@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <281e95ff-a1c2-c759-2918-783cb8edf1b7@gmail.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 19:05:45 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Ruslan Garipov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wKnj5hV8z4NgJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=CA4DlUL/; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::332) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 17:06:34 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:59 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: > I'm sorry, I forgot to ask how do you call /usr/src/release/release.sh? > Do you pass a configuration file to this script? > > By default /usr/src/release/release.sh checks out the source tree for > the CURRENT branch (svn://svn.FreeBSD.org/base/head@rHEAD). In this > case (if you doesn't change it) chrooted environment definitely will > fail to run on STABLE and/or RELEASE. > > May be it's easy for you to use `make release` directly. Case solved! =) I wrongly assumed that release will simply update this svn repo that I am working on.. but it fetches HEAD.. so I was trying to build 13/HEAD/CURRENT on 12/STABLE/RELEASE that have different ABI thus bad syscall.. and I need CURRENT to build CURRENT, right? :-) I will provide a release.conf, make.conf, src.conf and maybe KERNCONF if I need something beyond GENERIC. For now I just need to work with 12-STABLE. Good hint! :-) Thank you Ruslan!! :-) Tomek ps/2: Can I provide a patch that will print out what actually is being fetched by release.sh? 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I tend to break things further when I do either of these, so I have decided to get at least two of each hardware so that I can easily move things off one broken hardware until I fix it. I would like set up two machines with practically identical hardware and keep their data the same so that when one breaks I can start using the another. I want to mirror all filesystems, including root, and I do not need failover to happen automatically. In fact, I would prefer to keep the spare hardware off most of the time, and I am fine with the mirror being out of date. For context, this is my personal computer at home. My inclination is to set up each machine with two separate FreeBSD systems on separate zpools on separate hard drives, use one for the main system, and use one just for mirroring. (The mirroring system would use two small cheap disks in a mirror.) When I want to switch which system is the master, I would change the boot device in the BIOS. Is there a better way? For example, is HAST appropriate? I am specifically curious about this detail: Since I want to mirror the root filesystem, it seems that the only safe way is to have a second root filesystem. The second could be in RAM or on another dataset or on a separate hard drive. It could be a copy of first filesystem or a totally separate filesystem. What is an easy way to set this up, or is there a safe way that does not require a second root system? Also, I wouldn't mind thoughts on networking, but I am confident that the networking will be straightforward, so I'm mostly wondering how to mirror the hard drives. 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MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 17:53:40 -0000 On 4/5/2020 10:05 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:59 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: >> I'm sorry, I forgot to ask how do you call /usr/src/release/release.sh? >> Do you pass a configuration file to this script? >> >> By default /usr/src/release/release.sh checks out the source tree for >> the CURRENT branch (svn://svn.FreeBSD.org/base/head@rHEAD). In this >> case (if you doesn't change it) chrooted environment definitely will >> fail to run on STABLE and/or RELEASE. >> >> May be it's easy for you to use `make release` directly. > > Case solved! =) > > I wrongly assumed that release will simply update this svn repo that I > am working on.. but it fetches HEAD.. so I was trying to build > 13/HEAD/CURRENT on 12/STABLE/RELEASE that have different ABI thus bad > syscall.. and I need CURRENT to build CURRENT, right? :-) I believe in order to build the source tree you just need a compatible toolchain. So you can build the source tree for 13.0-CURRENT on 12.1-RELEASE system. But you need CURRENT to **run** userland with ABI from the CURRENT. In order to build, for example, 12.1-RELEASE image with release(7) you should assign the SRCBRANCH variable to "base/release/12.1.0@rHEAD", and for 12.0-STABLE: SRCBRANCH="base/stable/12@rHEAD". Either in your configuration file for release(7) or directly in your shell: env SRCBRANCH="base/release/12.1.0@rHEAD" /usr/src/release/release.sh > > I will provide a release.conf, make.conf, src.conf and maybe KERNCONF > if I need something beyond GENERIC. For now I just need to work with > 12-STABLE. Good hint! :-) Sure. Just as a note, by default (when the caller doesn't provide a configuration file to release(7), or the file provided doesn't exists), release(7) builds GENERIC kernel and uses no make.conf and src.conf. Once again: for native build `make release` may be quite easy and fast. release(7) guarantees "absolutely clean build environment". > > Thank you Ruslan!! :-) > > Tomek > > ps/2: Can I provide a patch that will print out what actually is being > fetched by release.sh? That could save some time for first time users > :-) Why not :-) For me reading /usr/src/release/release.sh and default configs for ARM saved me a lot of time. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 18:48:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC1A2BF007 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 18:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wN374QmNz43FG for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 18:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.91.239]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M3loZ-1jKt3r1zP9-000q0p for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:47:52 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:47:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Enabling TV output with xrandr Message-Id: <20200405204752.18587744.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:eXA+3ABWB0jKyQ5rB7kLFD/UqoHkKQE7fmZFQ/tLVNYN6WVX5Pc GNzpnjWp7iWWqQIghJj0ZbnQeE6cMAUW6/xLU6nhdYrXu9EIMyvOiMa0vrf8wJqhJRX7mat xvlyzleeAdq4bPtgjbLjYeP2LpYJrYMDpL5sMxhHZwQsP1KsIryxuIXHVShDYBquc+eiR4j 5DrMIlziZlN6ApXL/C7uA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:MSAj2QdYBZA=:h6cSZm6ku3wrMmOhEZ46XV 27RforntjJ/eE1VGSlnsGBPtstnxbVkeKV8fBspDKD27rL0ZzJB4fSXa/JAqkeVmeW2wVSG5B M32Ak9ScHwZa2O0YygWRyhJmQZNjA9js+PGjZh2v2Nwl2dxpSmvY9IgTSmQ/DSiNKOc5Vha3P 0S8eWVvTtXtjOKT/lExwU8UXAzFXZ7sqD3KwA+Aid/wMKnMqAR0M52HuDvIE2S0/i7XJOeoAp qwYKJytVrQnU2VRfXRjqeMf/6KcI7YrNEsGxZUskCCYx8cZDkQT2pJsctWdm45cRNpgasB0l8 WJa3GttAiQPzaQ1AGHnShbVkcU3fHjo0UL7XrvmHAEJhqpS69Z0Ujwa5y5xi2C+GGgTif4heR Mat36YITliYiFtZgkEIGwWOgSw/sD3q8QjvCtfquFPudW6pAUFIvGJbM2VGs+4LdLOqtCRurJ 514H4CXf+J7T42WNndeUq6oOuS8VzwL7xO7dBPH+WqGWovbVfDZmzYFwhp3CrdGS1ccOM6sX2 1I5q+8mDHwkQFZiBdct+6VAB/jHe1/zDIjlHfJgCkx4U5AKJDdOXWm45Qzar30j7xmGV1iqnP wusR3cd84q4YDGReNVsoCj7S1otBU+UpS8pqrOchyX8p/sZ94N2SbYWzOqo2Ixoaz7aca+Kt+ cFrR1poWH3T2uaN/aJcK7ZDgSj2UPRD2ZkjCnfAoJpHYHcE8B8dCKRRO6oHdx+gxcTq9K5MsF EOxzeTeUjV5nGdPFN7EIjBzYJZLn9HwI9HvRayF02Y9Td0i9pGByxYv1X5vxVHpw05PaJZB5Y XPEOiFne+gduaqz11IIYKTy0QbN9gdJSy8e5kvrI/2d7epa4W10iOq8eYYVbovGmx0Kykjl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wN374QmNz43FG X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.66 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[239.91.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.984,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[ip: (0.45), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.15), asn: 8560(2.13), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:48:24 -0000 I'm currently struggling to get a TV monitor connected to a PC. The PC is a Lenovo R61i with 4-pin Mini-DIN connector (top right pin is video out). I have attached a video monitor to the TV1 connector, but I don't get any video signal. According to xrandr, I have 3 outputs: LVDS1 (the laptop's display, backlight defect), CRT1 (an actual CRT, connected to the laptop, along with external keyboard and mouse, because the laptop's display is not usable anymore), and TV1. The graphics in this system is Intel i915, modules loaded, X works. I'm using FreeBSD 12.0-p7. With xrandr, I can change the screen size just fine. With a partial X configuration file, I have (for now) set it to 640x480, so there won't be a problem with "too high resolution" for the video. I regularly use 1024x768 on that particular system due to physical screen size of the CRT. I tried several calls to xrandr (-q, --output TV1 --auto), sometimes I get "cannot find crtc for output TV1", and if I disable the LVDS1 output, TV1 doesn't show any sizes. It _shows_ sizes when LVDS1 is active. I even cannot select the modes xrandr lists as supported (--mode 640x480 leads to "cannot find mode 640x480"). I'm completely okay with smaller modes like 640x480 or 800x600, it doesn't matter as long as there is an output signal However... this is not the complete truth. I once (!) got the desktop image on the video monitor, but I don't know how, and the shell history is no help. :-( What is the correct approach to enable TV output? If the solution involves X configuration instead of xrandr commands, that's also okay. Many years ago, I got a dual-screen setup working that way, with a ATI graphics card with a VGA and a DVI connector. :-) My goal is to run an instance of mplayer or vlcplayer in fullscreen that outputs to the video monitor - it's not my primary intention to have a copy of my desktop there, but at least that's what I got once... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I run standard on csh. Thanks, Jos #CSSis {beautiful}; From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 20:03:24 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B702696CC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wPk05qfXz4Y3b for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E5D17D3A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:59:59 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586116799; bh=I0XF4dNEFtoEdbAy/5UMAX9wfst4D1OZO5pzLKvrSZI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AwqnM7OFH1NK3FEvs/x+N8AqzZqcHG+gknjTFIK8aO3KlK6ISUT1uiLY1vYuFHyLB sDwqXtkeZys3wkDyR7RPfa5UK0Z+1iuGuCUZeGb9u3I66qb+xTkdUCJk63BYNUL0LG 1zJg5B6iK3fXo/2l9ualv9cAI/JwjG4QGkNPewGk= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2112517D39 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:59:59 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586116799; bh=I0XF4dNEFtoEdbAy/5UMAX9wfst4D1OZO5pzLKvrSZI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AwqnM7OFH1NK3FEvs/x+N8AqzZqcHG+gknjTFIK8aO3KlK6ISUT1uiLY1vYuFHyLB sDwqXtkeZys3wkDyR7RPfa5UK0Z+1iuGuCUZeGb9u3I66qb+xTkdUCJk63BYNUL0LG 1zJg5B6iK3fXo/2l9ualv9cAI/JwjG4QGkNPewGk= Subject: Re: Calling sh from csh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8a13c839-6e0c-8a6e-32bf-b4b42dfaff67@cloudzeeland.nl> From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:59:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8a13c839-6e0c-8a6e-32bf-b4b42dfaff67@cloudzeeland.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wPk05qfXz4Y3b X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cloudzeeland.nl header.s=cloud header.b=AwqnM7OF; dkim=pass header.d=cloudzeeland.nl header.s=cloud header.b=AwqnM7OF; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl designates 83.161.133.58 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cloudzeeland.nl:s=cloud]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cloudzeeland.nl]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cloudzeeland.nl:+]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.37)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 83.160.0.0/14(-2.06), asn: 3265(-0.04), country: NL(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3265, ipnet:83.160.0.0/14, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:03:24 -0000 On 5-4-20 21:48, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Can you tell me how I could find out if a shell script runs on csh or sh > and then execute it from within the right shell? Solved it by running from cshell the command 'bash mytest.script' Best, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 20:12:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAB0269C5E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karlo@klarinet.osamsb.hr) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wPw02Xqyz4bpn for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karlo@klarinet.osamsb.hr) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176338B2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 16:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap1 ([10.202.2.51]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); 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The conventional way is to execute the shell script rather than executing the shell and to rely on the shebang in the first line. I guess that won't work for you. Why won't it work? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 5 20:26:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F3926A294 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wQD45Gj4z3CdL for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.91.239]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MtOT0-1j28Da0IAQ-00usgb; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 22:25:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 22:25:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Calling sh from csh Message-Id: <20200405222539.f1774965.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8a13c839-6e0c-8a6e-32bf-b4b42dfaff67@cloudzeeland.nl> References: <8a13c839-6e0c-8a6e-32bf-b4b42dfaff67@cloudzeeland.nl> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5HSBJDDO7ga2LEu+NTltSwyB1C3EBtYiLLtTE1griGnaqFGrNtn z6U+GkVZtnegr9YNQLTSqiuz3OOuJBimHR5mQ9DPrMiPx1t5WhzWcDTliNf102VzcSnjBNL mzLdvFNzdRPkdQV6GFGbatLSpoukQfn5EMGq5X+/SuLI8BVttbyBVfnb22zA/51s05kaOmk Hf/i49qCMAaID9Xe3Lp8A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qtnELbuiaK0=:Qo4AyHIaRBoCTwxMewxT3e q0BwfNPLuUoQSUPAcAnGKUaS0yoefqrWvTao4hLR+ThLrrFMe4f84d4bHuaqrEBw+S2/2Xb0C vS1lvCONcCodLCom/c4Mou2amFFzr+d57Cl6QkSIAouck4/7Alvc5oJQQfnhIHsP6E2MN8wJz 62klM3M9WKMBLLgRKGVwQ+rP7MgBIE+dnMF/jQW/cXZfE6/tu+WITHGbuWCB/x3sxnXVHKLeC 1PyLlJHmaV9a/G9CYyRcBNTa7Efy4MyPh0RhYBC59Wr/swv4xsUbhkrhM1qmQbGFx168s3X7D 5HtHoz1Xd3wJOfjfAiaBfn/J+4oGZMjWWHjW3+t4lhjb+0Mohu/vxu06sP3VKF2RRFQhNYwGN ssHZpKjxIbYiLE69lbE/32WNLk896R5RIyZQccsbsoHknPiddFV0MezJfy9899FzTGfVi0hE+ U+BcoZDUcwOJ5/WLrHYpVsSjpeSNf9c1nDF6QdU+RpcuOUjTeMeSTli5N0QZR108F4a0KHx8w ip07f6i7tvzw7JO+74fPnd4yvk74LMzHIfRv0FGIYl+S6JRu6GCQMyLFxA/SXcFpJobtNDVtl itiLrshMg+lDtELTkYcedFmBecRNihrCaE+pvXu7xYcQDIO68nHKys+J8f4zX6SuJM2A95H/t EAeOdwkGSjRdabxDer6J6z/ScZ5a4Wh8xhJ7UWmWbG0r4EaU0J7Nr+kpLjeh541AJYJd9QUEN kHkbPtGTy4kt/mUqB6przQx5msaSap8hjGFhO3iQbVVnNy3pFoNyZabWDtfhbAsEi/axJZmA+ 4kMWcwZ8eoBjgWJA7hjMu5/em7WRZz/02dsvi5IpwevyiInAVoMg/SQSfGlqwDRNOsGJHFJ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wQD45Gj4z3CdL X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.82 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[239.91.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.982,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.996,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.44)[ip: (1.24), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.15), asn: 8560(2.12), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:26:08 -0000 On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:48:37 +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Can you tell me how I could find out if a shell script runs on csh or sh > and then execute it from within the right shell? If the shell script declares the required shell in the fist line, for example #!/bin/sh you can simply execute it (given that it has +x execution permission as required) by % ./scriptname and the correct interpreter will be used. You can also require bash (in case you're using extended non-sh functionality) by using #!/usr/local/bin/bash Similarly, executable scripts can call awk, perl or any other interpreter using the #! mechanism - you simply call the script by name, the correct interpreter will execute the script. In some cases, the filename extension .sh identifies a shell script as suitable for the sh (or sometimes bash) shell, so manually calling % sh scriptname.sh or % bash scriptname.sh will always work, no matter if a valid #! line is present. In case no #! is present and the filename has no extension, it's required to examine the actual content of the script in order to run the required interpreter. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 6 06:41:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA92A4731 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 06:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from tgv.rail.eu.org (mail.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ff17::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wgss0Vw7z4Znd for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 06:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e0a:2b7:70e1:84ba:95e1:c99:5c09] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:2b7:70e1:84ba:95e1:c99:5c09]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: erwan) by tgv.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F2EDBFDB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 08:40:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=rail.eu.org; s=mail; t=1586155255; bh=odqw6PleIjRucHk4SRG4jHbQDQ+G/SmwcEAvGCgBJE0=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LTMSxeoBeYDzuhbVo38n2kZnlq6ZQKq6mhDVGGMF8UPbKSETGZlq6wrUdlWSFSv5E uOsMx8WittAA2Pa9H3TbsmvDofbVVPiT3KttMP/6nCxHNNCrlDKADo4wHYlk+w6tcu aVryhFHL7nZ3OwyImnJUZJJrXw7Cm1cBhUfWv0XE= Subject: Re: icingaweb2 and nginx are in jail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200401161914.GA7923@mithril.foucry.net> From: Erwan David Message-ID: <67b34ace-877c-0852-6978-d14b8225103b@rail.eu.org> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 08:40:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200401161914.GA7923@mithril.foucry.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wgss0Vw7z4Znd X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rail.eu.org header.s=mail header.b=LTMSxeoB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rail.eu.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of erwan@rail.eu.org designates 2001:bc8:30d3:ff17::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=erwan@rail.eu.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rail.eu.org:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rail.eu.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rail.eu.org,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[ipnet: 2001:bc8::/32(-0.37), asn: 12876(0.41), country: FR(0.00)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:2001:bc8::/32, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 06:41:06 -0000 Le 01/04/2020 à 18:19, Jacques Foucry a écrit : > Hello folks, > > I try since now 2 weeks to make working icingaweb2 in a jail with nginx as > http server and php-fpm but it don't work. > > The log is pretty clear: > `/usr/local/www/icingaweb2/public/css/icinga.min.css` > > which is true there is no .css in ちhis directory bur .less kind of css. > icingaweb2 *SHOULD* create the correct ccs _on the fly_. > > I cannot figure whatśs going wrong. I have nginx in a jail and different apps with their php-fpm in their separates jails. However The only way to make it work was for me to mount nullfs-ro the php code in the nginx jail, nginx would not work without it From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 6 14:21:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF52B15DF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com (mail-lf1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48wt4j0lHYz47cT for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id t11so11985183lfe.4 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2020 07:21:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XQvaLLBGUDL95T98oOL7Xq+3BsiHxf5NIN2r77CmygQ=; b=Q8sWOA0I5b9HAsz7Ttl/uBfF3ZsKk+dQxDTv3spNB+JGnWveVOeFgdc2svyXU4UxNJ AoxC4WgYa9NT2qXny9EUA66HpSqSadnSApLcHg7jpF26uvmV4tAnwI4SKDgN6SjDEHCP o+XVe0CJE60yiFnkeCL9DxcODab0jr8AMdNMW8TdbbaBJB3+iWbSVyRnW9pNxtahhWOg APEMg6mUOR1DWjnHKyVp8BQVV1zUctFk6vtWgBdcLU0s51heCq+VNiXCmZDIPP+/Yg9I Gm0/DdLIos/ZvAwPGW4wg4N3tAIte3Kk4KHljRxDOcnDK3MRzQKxpSiaL/7/VgjGMiRZ yJtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XQvaLLBGUDL95T98oOL7Xq+3BsiHxf5NIN2r77CmygQ=; b=RvVVqMKAUvbfaVI0yQfCLYu0zylxoE1HZudCqhzqp8BuXaUrUP9+OCGRCknJHWVnKo BK4q3NDDbCO0Vix+BSzVqdJss888vrIsFcgROfgv02zzTXmdf4AGP3UZQEw2xBTze9ee zaAVH+iVilwRaTVWKb8ycEQkgdRONJklAfEa6rbYdXk4LliFD2BpqAJNqay/Qwgg7pxm NGbPvVNXLLGVZqkX7TfwnahUEtzDokovIrHtYcIxOYx2CeKFncUfaVCd74wBE/knOeMu /7p6RZs0CXDmEh96zfj0RN7+KCjSK9d48+McDMwc9fbtF2VryLrA/Jcwd1xBt/469guM qRJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYosGBYLkT+/1d7/Tcb/rE2+mkME2mr2KQm6oy0Rda2sym+yMdd 5oEvOzhJlLjrtxH3L0FDcfjri1z1TF6gdjlBUzkoWrjf834= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLzICdF+SbFRtoKveOp74LW27zr4QKFRkjRwoJZac+HwdHEoo95meRNIpFAVgd0EW5u/Z5MiK58oBOZdc7Fso0= X-Received: by 2002:a19:992:: with SMTP id 140mr6801618lfj.41.1586182866868; Mon, 06 Apr 2020 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200402191340.vs4id5i3j7uscppv@sea-ll-10936> <24199.19346.666044.877330@alice.local> <2523896.mvXUDI8C0e@sea-ll-10936> In-Reply-To: <2523896.mvXUDI8C0e@sea-ll-10936> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:20:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: current best FreeBSD hosting services To: Ihor Antonov Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48wt4j0lHYz47cT X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=Q8sWOA0I; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::135 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.43)[ip: (-9.29), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:21:10 -0000 On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:52 PM Ihor Antonov wrote: > On Friday, April 3, 2020 7:43:30 AM PDT George Hartzell wrote: > > Ihor Antonov writes: > > > [...] > > > I run a small mail server instance with a monthly total of slightly > below > > > $20. 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Best, -- Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 7 07:56:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE16F2AD410 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xKVF294Mz4Fg2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@sdf.lonestar.org [205.166.94.16]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0377uJ8m013623 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:56:20 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:56:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz X-X-Sender: viktormadarasz@sdf.lonestar.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question (fwd) Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xKVF294Mz4Fg2 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.05)[-0.045,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.77), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.39), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.37)[0.368,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 07:56:22 -0000 viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question Hi My Name is Viktor. Im from Hungary and I live in Spain for about 12 years. I work as an IT Analyst for a multinational company. More about that and my IT background here: https://cv.viktormadarasz.com I also run a weekly podcast which is broadcasted also Live on anonradio.net every Saturday 6pm UTC time. It is part of SDF.org which is a public access unix system for the masses since the late 80s.... More about that weekly IT Podcast called The Server Room here :: https://anonradio.net/djs/tsr-the-server-room/ Now the important parts: I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very shallow C++ knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object oriented concepts being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a programmer) always confuses me :) ) So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something else? ( English and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My English and Hungarian are way better :) ) Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where I live-reside (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity to do so as there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write English, Spanish , Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those languages as well... Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these things? Regards Viktor From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 7 09:40:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE742B0AE2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [IPv6:2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xMpP0j5Lz4MjG for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48xMpD3xLXzfMD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 11:40:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=0/uCX+/q/ofvW7ijP6B53QXVpOg=; b=C1QXBP 3KLDWM8mMwvMYCwfZqW4AIoU+wEWR5hfdg4qqsZ5128z92iAqa7I615ieehHX/3R Kds8qaen4K8QMVboft6vNmETC6P2hvhvuQ4oy9yq3ETxkcCZs5IzV4eCH+UohEMo yyNT2b60MLpfeeCMckCsgrliGEFvJPjc73UrY= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48xMpC63wMzfMC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 11:40:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) References: In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xMpP0j5Lz4MjG X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=C1QXBP 3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.45 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:2a02:2770::/32, country:NL]; IP_SCORE(-3.65)[ip: (-9.86), ipnet: 2a02:2770::/32(-4.70), asn: 196752(-3.70), country: NL(0.03)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 09:40:29 -0000 Hey, On dt., abr. 07 2020, Viktor Madarasz wrote: > viktormadarasz@sdf.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) > From: Viktor Madarasz > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Question > > I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very > shallow C++ > knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object > oriented concepts > being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a > programmer) always > confuses me :) ) > > So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something > else? ( English > and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My > English and > Hungarian are way better :) ) Helping out with ports doesn't *usually* require programming per se. My approach to help out with limited time has been to help fix things I see that need fixing. Here is something I wrote about updating ports (with tons of links to things I wish I had known :-)) https://evilham.com/en/blog/2020-FreeBSD-updating-a-port-twisted-python/ Creating ports is similarly not much of a programming effort, so if you see something that is missing and would be desirable, you can look into it. If you can identify a similar piece of software (as in: same programming language, similar architecture, ...), you might be able to extrapolate from that other port to create your own; otherwise the porter's handbook is a good resource and generally just asking on #freebsd-ports might point you in the right direction. Documentation is indeed also a great way, just can't speak for that as much yet. > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where > I live-reside > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity > to do so as > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write > English, Spanish , > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those > languages as > well... > > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these > things? Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people who might not be as well-versed in English. Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed to do anything with it just yet. I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them and maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and revive it :-) (that would be pretty cool). As for how to do these things... It's tricky because it's something social and it's a bunch of *constant, reliable* work. During the past, say 15-20 episodes of https://bsdnow.tv, there have been quite a few mentions about how to start such an effort. (You'd have to look into e.g. the RSS feed and find those, but if you haven't yet, it's a good podcast worth listening regardless of these particular bits) At the very least it sounds like announcing you'll do such a thing here, probably on Twitter *and* fediverse, and shooting an email with enough head time to the BSD Now people is a decent way to start. Cheers, -- Evilham From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 7 10:29:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372222B2322 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from sonic301-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic301-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xNvP1f3gz4QxY for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) X-YMail-OSG: bNbKg9EVM1lswkSHC0AtAKeGAjC6MCgoAK1xh2ZUfaqkKej9zQnBh4COXd57Mx_ qJYUugBQnHXRjM90c.T_6cRZkSaWEilrgInjGv9VN2ceoxVI0PtdiGHWS7CPh7pIRwu_aTtZ83DS f2gz6RMYx22Ff6WqXK4oJPNtb.lBdw5X9WtsaJ.iHOV9plBaetOn.RMOSklYsOnX35XBVVioJBBP gCPmqCgZD_aBuSkhNFVHqHax.JSa..0E1KjaSLukzv6AxUQZwYmQT.fAvuY7gIMZyKMdZgP.BPJz KvHiwMDt1e8NLeRDa8qoJ9RNzQpZt81eeVbrIWSTiTLz7VlaOhxHpoWcoSkiZDCrS0RzCrrDn7qV i3qHLN.LRbjgpxTB8qF734ViRoSoXm9rlirDFsJN38cPYQI5JykjZeLmbLkyO0NTFJJKYEAe_yBb WBmYWk33HwB5m5QrY9RykokQJzrpHzlWJCSzQp5us7hc3R7GES8ZM.eAzTwXzodr32zG8RPKAIiD 6OZSjJpkD9Zh8QDGUYrSEYrV69fc4Bg13RrXCch6viIJFBrZnIIdxRf_e4bI7rqxC3F8mpdqvWnb Y7HVVJ3jJO8pIKWWUdx1D16dUErhlp1nHeNskcp6PNfbtOB7gqGl..Eu5u515d6NA2BUbkpXAmJr 4ihIocn4.wNrZSe42S8ZhXc3qLpM3bQE4UKaF.kYovP4NQr2rYu.6E5Ku3VV.992AuU97KIybPgZ p44mMNXpwDQ2SvQgso60WeIfXEVMYHt1jZwGQ1yvN1Dq7Qtjv_7G9vcdO_QhDOOzd9HsKJtdAtFQ O5.UvZums6ngdVl8w3YivDaoeRRPfw8eLeQJAcOA2I6unOxR4A4nM9KkiHHbHKbPTOXrvpK2q4A7 Ao.TlbcZiqkzCguMarMXdeH.feC8GBNfj_v1gQXj5BeHU2F9xTzmJMzzSaQPnWPq9zGMUjF5iggS d2DEphKwO8Q2Ma63uuyaQFqGA92JMAHD94b4imW2t.FNvSDHZ3BaUqcXZLCaCAQO5SWxQhGM_FTf 9z8kd7MB5M5EsnvJda.0ykrV2858wpN8FmDw2V67Jc9XzXqkQUaF0M898De0lKQy638sQdzNUS0Q FeQijYksOj9VlHe0EVZW2JiDozu4.pijEav7UKqS5JxQ2Ery5Ug9SA9xb0BbVJ.VHCE_8OjaQlrx Mw2d9sEwACvgAd_QXLFfcK4MLLK1Ae94KYuC7E3p7zCNsbd5enaHCCWSdRFvcqW2pb9amifphdOL cL3TUYHfC4hnBSjoww16b_Vek7nlzwuMR7HLr5SOJTWI9U0EfmuRnWKcmL2ol42sMXwvsVUydwMh BsUXX_WoAIoeNZ7zH2nmVYkLA22DvCR1Fktnt3dI8epXNBS0dslts34zMkIq4T0j5Hoy.qYL9 Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:29:50 +0000 Received: by smtp415.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a6434afb67ba91c37ad45531d6c94209; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:45:32 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200407124532.eeeabebf92156e7997978620@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xNvP1f3gz4QxY X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.44 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.es:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.es,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.es:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.994,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (6.24), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.16), asn: 34010(1.71), country: GB(-0.07)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.944,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.176.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.176.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:29:55 -0000 Hi Viktor, I'm from Spain too. On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Viktor Madarasz wrote: > My Name is Viktor. Im from Hungary and I live in Spain for about 12 > years. ... > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where I > live-reside (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good > opportunity to do so as there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I > speak / write English, Spanish , Hungarian I guess I could tie in to > other BSD Groups with those languages as well... There is a spanish maillist, but it has no activity for a year, freebsd@es.freebsd.org. There is also a documentation maillist. We did some events/conferences years ago. Please send a mail to that mail list and welcome!! > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these things? > > Regards > > Viktor > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 7 22:29:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327082A10B8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "taos.firemountain.net", Issuer "taos.firemountain.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xht05609z4Kqn for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsk@gsp.org) Received: from gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.15.1/8.14.9) with SMTP id 037MTpUS018445 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 18:29:42 -0400 From: Rich Kulawiec To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: current best FreeBSD hosting services Message-ID: <20200407222942.GA7741@gsp.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xht05609z4Kqn X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gsp.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rsk@gsp.org designates 207.114.3.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rsk@gsp.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[54.3.114.207.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:207.114.3.54:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.913,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.33)[0.329,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[54.3.114.207.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gsp.org,none]; IP_SCORE(0.78)[asn: 17054(3.94), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17054, ipnet:207.114.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 22:29:45 -0000 On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 03:39:49PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Suggestions? 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They've *earned* their entries in my firewall rulesets. ---rsk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 05:59:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D473F2AA635 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 05:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xtrt6zRWz3Hky for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 05:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id p13so5639617ilp.3 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 22:59:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TBN6LnAbi0+ro/NpW+/Z8teHxtJurA3HTK5A1DNE3mQ=; b=oLWFjM0wDHVf4+cH4+Uo5zwnoZ6hegw2Jqvmti3LXUPpXb0lioSjHh0TXs/AqO0dXm o8BtoEhxsWL07sp6dAUjjCg+vZmypQgWpm6oWtMftlXrp6/Al43FlAl3RQFr51cc/9g3 QGpuObu227WRTPT29BsxvYt6yFL9d9wNkm2kCXJzkTB1Rxh2GLaG2sO7jIA8LEHBcgpp 2zqnuANVg2xOcpbxYq58iVvYP5cbgwKOVUowti++catJinl0jku2GuGV7ERrTnyFrVRb G2KAjl4OCENDhFAH4wFn9YVgZYcIkcu8rvB1l/NO7dIdrQ9odtJXvWEPVtr9mxLqQk8x VGXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TBN6LnAbi0+ro/NpW+/Z8teHxtJurA3HTK5A1DNE3mQ=; b=p3eCzwHEZZgWqpHuRXTpRwGbT2YRJhtcTy5E5iloTDbMzgoe6ic/r4JG6SwHXhhySn NgHWNcT7dreQqc3AL93zzYBmieAtsRKyacIgZ2MNYeLNS7auLYp5/6LWLN2kXEJ1DBvN yoKvwD52EJUM6Vx7BG+6ii+LljdTSyPSE2WLAA6ibeQH1HgvHT84tp4AeM9RhhKW2j18 Bs/pYhb10eweYPBoBkNQBk7hqtWLJmX6wW3z93BJZZDunVUfbsRpeWWD4AfFw18xgVJR X1t0q8/z0xweaKUDFyDcLFM8raUDCZ/EEGN1onoa49wJuA7U8+CZ55NDHfb8Aawyy6wK drWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZ3ziGAefIdy5mWkAMvtY0isQkz35YvhkSry2a0Y6sXv7kBrcXd ZS8wLlnZ5TMu+2si1WF99LWeWP/vUnTfFlZKP1lae9tz X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKQamJlcu3+z2m3q0lxIAGLbvmIsRoVztjUp6UCtxmWvJPLd2IeTnlGEVHQ2MPcje6F+YC3MADmS6zgOGnq5To= X-Received: by 2002:a92:c011:: with SMTP id q17mr6596106ild.301.1586325565491; Tue, 07 Apr 2020 22:59:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:204:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 22:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 01:59:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: difference in sshd protocol options To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xtrt6zRWz3Hky X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oLWFjM0w; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.34), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 05:59:27 -0000 Hello, I just went through an interesting go tonight getting an android file manager to connect via sftp to my FreeBSD 12.1 sshd server. I've got two questions. Refering to the sshd_config man page the HostKeyAlgorithms option and the PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes options is there a difference between the options (both of which appear in the default) ssh-rsa and ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 07:07:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122E12ABB9E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 07:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eancaer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe32.google.com (mail-vs1-xe32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xwMl2MSrz3MRX for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 07:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eancaer@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe32.google.com with SMTP id a63so4056762vsa.8 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 00:07:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3W8GhL08NixrNdjg+v5jpUFRSTbeRtjaZVpNItHrt2g=; b=q55gydAWIS73lObvrLm21ltCblT9s+MruKnnrDbyRpuoGjnP7NAOePJ0s3nG6ZNSWk MSmRpv9hPDZLSXqG00zgLUXE3f+aKIMU21XoMo18cLibDmHG310US8S0mg2BFSiYNYZc Plkd2/2Ttjx7l7wQ517nagH/gayWNWluSOCAh3KPPICgOLiMXr9x+40JkJ07f3sx9DGB 2MXFwBcK5v5NsY+ZvfjIR/lt/CH/dtp9zvZ+4Us+IMUw5KJVPwkKTls5ADeSJQyRjCA0 2eGOPt6QeMnXQHY8QSUMGeSXllUZQrcNQUkeY2ZJQlJ3sbgRqdsPkAL16C4AKumfE8Ak tMSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3W8GhL08NixrNdjg+v5jpUFRSTbeRtjaZVpNItHrt2g=; b=qZlvSkhnp3PrJE0pf5YvtU2ETg87fCKAwmRsZZlpZ0g7zXXv/0nSmSo3Q9GDmORE9W j8zNFk7327cnZJ7ORza7JAZ5mQdk20HsJkDRz5hAeJFBF2c8iVasJyX5CjS7PDWqtJ9T L3hGzrb4dxcdgKLcxwIGC4vHGzC/+OItiFDak1RtnJMa9dMImOINEPePSwNl+lCT3tm8 ULstYP3V/4VIJJC6v7awoqud9OgIz9dTmWvTLE5VIOXB4poSZSlXLbp29FzNwEj7VeTV BHgv9dzyEn07YAkU2sJb21d8NLS2sb2dl18idKLoa6rHcQxjgOVypsf0jI4+k2oUylfk gGJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuY+jqtf5T2Al0Xd3H7kqKqu0ypRyUO3SeWGDKoPRjgpomkxWAct CGOaM3mI92rOHziq68h7k9GE9c2BtGXzgv0XrwHFtNau X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJjCV3H5bfa8i7lKtm8NKk2FIpDlF4Kovn1sdjkHiQf8fwC7i3JRaiwU2K8ubbCvaAQkQQcvZe49Tyql+lBBkk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f34b:: with SMTP id p11mr4801240vsm.14.1586329665357; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Edwin Ancaer Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 09:07:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Compiling the Squeak Cog VM in FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xwMl2MSrz3MRX X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=q55gydAW; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eancaer@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eancaer@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.46), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:07:48 -0000 Tobias, I hope you will still read my emails, always complaining. With the correct branch now, I have an issue in the B3DAcceleratorPlugin. In the display below, you see I have the file GL/gl.h in /usr/local/include, and it looks as of the Makefile for the plugin did not take /usr/local/include as an include library. clang -g -O2 -DNDEBUG -DDEBUGVM=0 -msse2 -DCOGMTVM=0 -Wall -pthread -DLSB_FIRST=1 -m64 -Wno-missing-braces -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-unused-value -Wno-unused-label -Wno-unused-function -Wno-unused-variable -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSQUEAK_BUILTIN_PLUGIN -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/build.linux64x64/squeak.cog.spur/build -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/build.linux64x64/squeak.cog.spur/build -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/Cross/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/spur64src/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/Cross/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/spur64src/vm -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/Cross/plugins/FilePlugin -I/usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin -m64 -Wno-missing-braces -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-unused-value -Wno-unused-label -Wno-unused-function -Wno-unused-variable -c -o sqUnixMain.o /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c In file included from /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:134: In file included from /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/vm/SqDisplay.h:16: /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/sqUnixOpenGL.h:21:13: fatal error: 'GL/gl.h' file not found # include ^~~~~~~~~ 1 error generated. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/build.linux64x64/squeak.cog.spur/build/vm *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/home/edwin/Smalltalk5/opensmalltalk-vm/build.linux64x64/squeak.cog.spur/build $ locate GL/gl.h /usr/local/include/GL/gl.h /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/1 Thanks again, Edwin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 08:40:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212842AD6EC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (vm1982.osfux.nl [79.99.187.212]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xyQc5NNKz3R6t for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 08:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9D92014F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:40:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none shortcircuit=no X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.3 Received: from [192.168.9.195] (unknown [95.174.67.156]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:40:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: difference in sshd protocol options To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Ruben Message-ID: <081421ff-7295-4406-fb17-fc5b4c974e95@osfux.nl> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:40:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xyQc5NNKz3R6t X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[osfux.nl:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.866,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.27)[asn: 8315(1.31), country: NL(0.03)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[osfux.nl:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[osfux.nl,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8315, ipnet:79.99.184.0/21, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 08:40:26 -0000 Hi David, I don't know the answer to your question but I had an "interesting" run last year as well. I couldn't distill from your message whether or not you got things to work, perhaps my ramblings will save some further frustration if you didn't. The android apps I tried all used a Java library for the actual syncing etc, which I only got working after adding this to my "global" sshd config: ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes Without it, all auths (by all apps I tried) resulted in: # sshd[14279]: error: Received disconnect from X.X.X.X port 35190:3: com.jcraft.jsch.JSchException: Auth fail [preauth] My global PasswordAuthentication setting is set to "no". I also added: Ciphers aes256-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes128-ctr to my configuration around that time, can't remember if that was an actual attempt to allow apps authenticating against OpenSSH or not. My individual android devices all have a "match" block: Match User test123 ChrootDirectory %h ForceCommand internal-sftp AllowTcpForwarding no PermitTunnel no PasswordAuthentication yes This combination works for all apps i've tried since. Kind Regards, Ruben On 4/8/20 7:59 AM, David Mehler wrote: > Hello, > > I just went through an interesting go tonight getting an android file > manager to connect via sftp to my FreeBSD 12.1 sshd server. I've got > two questions. 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I've got > two questions. Refering to the sshd_config man page the > HostKeyAlgorithms option and the PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes options is > there a difference between the options (both of which appear in the > default) ssh-rsa and ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com? Yes, see e.g. https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROTOCOL.certkeys - ssh-rsa uses just a "raw" key, while ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com uses a certificate (OpenSSH-specific design, a simpler variant than the common x.509 style), i.e. basically a key signed with some other trusted (CA) key. 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If I'm understanding right the key type ssh-rsa is what is needed when an ssh key is generated with ssh-keygen -t rsa? Thanks. Dave On 4/8/20, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2020-04-08 07:59, David Mehler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I just went through an interesting go tonight getting an android file >> manager to connect via sftp to my FreeBSD 12.1 sshd server. I've got >> two questions. Refering to the sshd_config man page the >> HostKeyAlgorithms option and the PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes options is >> there a difference between the options (both of which appear in the >> default) ssh-rsa and ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com? > > Yes, see e.g. > https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROTOCOL.certkeys > - ssh-rsa uses just a "raw" key, while ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com > uses a certificate (OpenSSH-specific design, a simpler variant than > the common x.509 style), i.e. basically a key signed with some other > trusted (CA) key. The certificate allows for specifiying CA keys > instead of individual host and user keys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, respectively. > > --Per Hedeland > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 14:19:01 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7932B3839 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48y5xJ1lYrz4DwQ for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466E3C41A8; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo12-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XgsuhSKXJJio; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1982C41BE; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 038EItA1025573 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2020 16:18:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: difference in sshd protocol options To: David Mehler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4b14011e-3e7e-fbb7-73cf-7dc3e1429906@hedeland.org> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <8048c438-439c-9bf7-602b-00762444f210@hedeland.org> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 16:18:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48y5xJ1lYrz4DwQ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.16 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.53)[-0.535,0]; IP_SCORE(0.40)[ip: (0.52), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(-0.04), asn: 16686(1.61), country: CA(-0.09)]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.50)[-0.502,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:19:01 -0000 On 2020-04-08 16:07, David Mehler wrote: > > Thanks. If I'm understanding right the key type ssh-rsa is what is > needed when an ssh key is generated with ssh-keygen -t rsa? Well, yes, although I'd perhaps word it a little differently - i.e. if you need a key of type ssh-rsa, 'ssh-keygen -t rsa' is the way to generate it. (And if you need a certificate for ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com, you can proceed to sign the generated key via the '-s' option to ssh-keygen - I haven't personally tried that though.) --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 14:27:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780F92B3B6D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x42a.google.com (mail-pf1-x42a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48y67J5XCPz4FMc for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id c20so2459015pfi.7 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LVPPdwEqvlT0VHo7vLkBwmzd8oq3xflzsB7y1n6MgIQ=; b=JHgnzdr2Nbe7RpRAjNWqH0MUvUQ0NlXBHpLZ2bBDT8RY98BfgNcLfGv7u7hT5sdzB2 2DkBIXgOoTla+hEOqgNwKh/mIrlyObcgGzQtdPHO6KGEcOGuTKJYppl3nA+G9CAkF/C1 VWBx9uqjT/IGiXK8IMQyty0FO/ur6cDFIVnpB/oRbPx4HKFg+EiJcyy/qS7PLLKh/BRz JxZ/fpco0gFx11uK3Sa8SKe25pctaU1v3Tu+tIQSGQZghq8OBYs95edXS9rwHfsHkux8 2jrEEvScnZdpgxO510MryLWMU4A1BVEzuLvefne4CkJbsL10eI3bs8bd0dMxaClJI1w8 VLxQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LVPPdwEqvlT0VHo7vLkBwmzd8oq3xflzsB7y1n6MgIQ=; b=le2VroxH3TN2cID2gbxRQdLBCVfpfo8Fh2iocYq4ncxuarSdYuB3DXWH7xOHwE9Zfx R4EGV9MZpBzQ6GN04jh7Uwf+40+6SImQCLzVi3FQyLw+VKJF94VxNQRaMbsTZRu28HyU brbxXqkV0yJzNmNBhJek4Vqv+vJUgjKB5s39uvzPiFWPKDU30IAS43JRq2Y+WMTOjhkw 4nHqrMULGacq++Kfmaw0m/IzXlayNn6/6uAXu4EIK0TRSyEFgv2pX6E+8k++1W3qDL90 +xVrxkuCLP4GwecHmpAQnYV4Mc0J5uCJbbbFWn0tMIb0HnTkNjx3JZVYUWp9BnayXXWY X/4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua741uBA4SeBtzLlVZ8BStXTu32YfRyICbHWCFyxI9zzd4C4rjk DUr2p9l7g3tRlqCwKx90kxuYv8+PFm93HhiAX6jE3mQn X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIufGRg7xnAgo1CyYZ3lpK7qFvJ4Vdld8FwZ8iJeKJWydpkqjVPAEeOCF+GnuGkxH0JuKHaUz2gbVlzJAXWhA0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d8c8:: with SMTP id l8mr8496865ilo.259.1586354857775; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 07:07:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:ce15:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 07:07:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4b14011e-3e7e-fbb7-73cf-7dc3e1429906@hedeland.org> References: <4b14011e-3e7e-fbb7-73cf-7dc3e1429906@hedeland.org> From: David Mehler Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: difference in sshd protocol options To: Per Hedeland Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48y67J5XCPz4FMc X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=JHgnzdr2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::42a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.67), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:27:41 -0000 Hello Per Hedeland Thanks. If I'm understanding right the key type ssh-rsa is what is needed when an ssh key is generated with ssh-keygen -t rsa? Thanks. Dave On 4/8/20, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2020-04-08 07:59, David Mehler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I just went through an interesting go tonight getting an android file >> manager to connect via sftp to my FreeBSD 12.1 sshd server. I've got >> two questions. Refering to the sshd_config man page the >> HostKeyAlgorithms option and the PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes options is >> there a difference between the options (both of which appear in the >> default) ssh-rsa and ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com? > > Yes, see e.g. > https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROTOCOL.certkeys > - ssh-rsa uses just a "raw" key, while ssh-rsa-cert-v01@openssh.com > uses a certificate (OpenSSH-specific design, a simpler variant than > the common x.509 style), i.e. basically a key signed with some other > trusted (CA) key. The certificate allows for specifiying CA keys > instead of individual host and user keys in ~/.ssh/known_hosts > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, respectively. > > --Per Hedeland > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 15:43:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8A92B506C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48y7pw6Ynlz4JgF for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 038FhRCm020532 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Evilham cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48y7pw6Ynlz4JgF X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.927,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.77), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 15:43:38 -0000 Hi Evilham Very nicely written article I liked it ... I also saw there is a FreeBSD Porting Manual/Handbook By the look of it with my untrained eye it looked a lot like shell scripting and following a given syntax and cheking builds and update dependencies ---> this with my eyes without having a clue so dont judge me on that :) This definetly looks like something which interests me indeed... I always thought porting would mean to bring something over which does not exist .. from zero .. like SecureCRT (has it open thats why, its a closed source SSH/Terminal emulator has windows/mac os / linux versions ) and figure out how to make it work on FreeBSD ** without it existing in any form of port or binary for FreeBSD ** Where can I go to get some more step by step and training materials on this Porting thing? IRC? other mail list? Telegram chat? Regards Viktor On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, Evilham wrote: > Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 > From: Evilham > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > Hey, > > On dt., abr. 07 2020, Viktor Madarasz wrote: > >> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Viktor Madarasz >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Question >> >> I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very shallow >> C++ >> knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object oriented >> concepts >> being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a programmer) >> always >> confuses me :) ) >> >> So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something else? ( >> English >> and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My English and >> Hungarian are way better :) ) > > > Helping out with ports doesn't *usually* require programming per se. > My approach to help out with limited time has been to help fix things I see > that need fixing. > > Here is something I wrote about updating ports (with tons of links to things > I wish I had known :-)) > https://evilham.com/en/blog/2020-FreeBSD-updating-a-port-twisted-python/ > > Creating ports is similarly not much of a programming effort, so if you see > something that is missing and would be desirable, you can look into it. > If you can identify a similar piece of software (as in: same programming > language, similar architecture, ...), you might be able to extrapolate from > that other port to create your own; otherwise the porter's handbook is a good > resource and generally just asking on #freebsd-ports might point you in the > right direction. > > Documentation is indeed also a great way, just can't speak for that as much > yet. > > >> Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where I >> live-reside >> (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity to do so as >> there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write English, >> Spanish , >> Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those languages >> as >> well... >> >> Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these things? > > > Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; though in my > case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical meetings be easier for > the post-COVID world. > Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like PyBCN), to > facilitate participation of local computer-people who might not be as > well-versed in English. > Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, just make sure > not to exclude people on a language basis. > > For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed to do > anything with it just yet. > I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an abandoned effort; > you might be able to get in touch with them and maybe do a friendly, mutually > agreed, domain take over and revive it :-) (that would be pretty cool). > > As for how to do these things... It's tricky because it's something social > and it's a bunch of *constant, reliable* work. > During the past, say 15-20 episodes of https://bsdnow.tv, there have been > quite a few mentions about how to start such an effort. > (You'd have to look into e.g. the RSS feed and find those, but if you haven't > yet, it's a good podcast worth listening regardless of these particular bits) > > At the very least it sounds like announcing you'll do such a thing here, > probably on Twitter *and* fediverse, and shooting an email with enough head > time to the BSD Now people is a decent way to start. > > Cheers, > -- > Evilham > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 16:06:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D752B584B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 16:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48y8K62DT6z4Kq0 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id 21so539121uae.4 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FOgJsT8XU6+ZvzOawOggKENK9FSF63XEQ0k9jnHPFHk=; b=L2iLMLKlyRY8UxlBBOtRY+fgP9d3cmhso3RA4/CqVqmZugEMf3KmxoPYQ+J+xpml29 BXz6LwBoZ+8dKkQQaGhpju48UVqQoYLItbZU2xbbOkv919H0vuZflpm9MuylgkCkQrnV nxrpELU020aLKWnk+HQAZZp1oU7ItCZNfkznkR3x8UqevbTvUglt3zAbV8792vS0X2pp jENnW+lvsygCNY1UpKQPLmrNceSV/FVEqK69lSH0EhdglJrr8q3TNzfVimz73eaNvMxY /xkjSGdjjXKca3ravrI2kD6p4BbK3qYml3r4jTTXGtg+7Rc4jg50CvxwBzKKIRLXCDQ3 OG8A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FOgJsT8XU6+ZvzOawOggKENK9FSF63XEQ0k9jnHPFHk=; b=BHHy3X0ay4WvoS+WBZEIi57cFL0tFSXnZe3TUO3shYNlChcN9Eea/5YWLzkDKvHy2X qfdadz0eSqlmk3czzECyjfbW/5+K7KS3H743MN1QkAjn1sDGBf8EDDkAfXYSd7kqUB5/ baLtaHqcSRv64XEXWHfUwK5CZMgvXrY8m2vHcorC1pBs6ZVIwECTvJY1VXmo3/WAt1Rt jT1kcYTeqFMNscajVvovy0kvBzCpRcmxQXIPsphvoTQ70E+6t0ajXTMtLRoScY4iSfWP HqVtxQAIwJ6gfDFjxNcU47ixc7uHplHMA/6pEXj1dCvTj/RDsmKh/S43V1Za9vydgC8R hbLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubJ49c0wrEwlbUhj9A72myb6fBaPN8KHzWJRokyNW/rk8i/mWBz buj0V1OnOOo2CkY5cyON2TfQBkg/UJs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKUIHDGIjwRSQPj/CdrNLqVxGm9aYKcZFBjihx9uVAXNGT9A50m1Qxc2dzl2Ubor6D6ZdXZZQ== X-Received: by 2002:a4a:e08b:: with SMTP id w11mr404947oos.62.1586361975335; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f182.google.com (mail-oi1-f182.google.com. [209.85.167.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l22sm1373019ota.55.2020.04.08.09.06.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f182.google.com with SMTP id u20so448649oic.4; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:06:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:4f57:: with SMTP id d84mr335577oib.161.1586361973542; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 09:06:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <281e95ff-a1c2-c759-2918-783cb8edf1b7@gmail.com> <67026913-5a6d-4763-a985-e2739de9d147@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <67026913-5a6d-4763-a985-e2739de9d147@gmail.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:05:49 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Ruslan Garipov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48y8K62DT6z4Kq0 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=L2iLMLKl; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::935) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.37 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.07)[ip: (-9.54), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 16:06:19 -0000 On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:53 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: > > I wrongly assumed that release will simply update this svn repo that I > > am working on.. but it fetches HEAD.. so I was trying to build > > 13/HEAD/CURRENT on 12/STABLE/RELEASE that have different ABI thus bad > > syscall.. and I need CURRENT to build CURRENT, right? :-) > I believe in order to build the source tree you just need a compatible > toolchain. So you can build the source tree for 13.0-CURRENT on > 12.1-RELEASE system. But you need CURRENT to **run** userland with ABI > from the CURRENT. Long story short I need 13-CURRENT to create a 13-CURRENT release with release(7) because on 12-STABLE/RELEASE chroot with 13-CURRENT does not work. I need to see how it works with `make release` :-) > Once again: for native build `make release` may be quite easy and fast. > release(7) guarantees "absolutely clean build environment". Will try that `make release` as well, also for 13-CURRENT on 12-STABLE, thank you! Also will compare the time cost with the one presented below :-) Creating a "release" also has this advantage that I have memstick images that I can boot from directly, test what I need, even no need to install :-) Here are my build times, for a release for AMD64/12-STABLE, I did not select DOC nor PORTS to build, only Kernel and Base :-) BUILD HOST (~$500): HP PROLIANT DL380G7X (HDD 1TB, 128GB RAM, 24vCPU = 2 x Intel Xeon X5660 @2.8GHz = 2 PACKAGES x 6 CORES x 2 HW THREADS ) INTERNET: 600/60MBit time make clean buildkernel (16x speedup with SMP): 2472.027u 291.657s 46:34.54 98.8% 38592+3123k 195123+3315182io 80167pf+0w -j12 2355.140u 282.807s 3:40.12 1198.4% 38509+3121k 190142+3361605io 71356pf+0w -j24 3672.641u 382.254s 2:54.85 2319.0% 39837+3149k 218567+3361605io 64857pf+0w -j48 3722.707u 352.940s 3:07.10 2178.3% 40328+3169k 214359+3361607io 66526pf+0w time make clean buildworld (12.5x speedup with SMP): 32223.598u 1940.942s 9:28:07.59 100.2% 46920+3430k 563493+3074126io 234706pf+0w -j12 33644.438u 1818.147s 54:46.68 1078.9% 47324+3449k 485257+3255853io 236896pf+0w -j24 50728.732u 2556.953s 45:06.66 1968.6% 47556+3455k 560905+3255862io 229433pf+0w -j48 51129.166u 2454.564s 44:38.12 2000.7% 47630+3458k 525602+3255854io 210237pf+0w release.sh (seems to auto-adjust -j optimization and below 2h looks really cool): 94556.462u 5583.273s 1:43:14.24 1616.6% 50234+3336k 1457023+16921354io 615421pf+0w -j12 94477.001u 5577.692s 1:42:59.60 1619.1% 50251+3337k 1463964+16932952io 617689pf+0w -j24 94480.274u 5574.117s 1:43:38.89 1608.8% 50213+3336k 1468685+16931170io 617425pf+0w -j48 94588.653u 5569.909s 1:43:10.62 1617.9% 50211+3336k 1460546+16925145io 611229pf+0w These times may be even smaller when SSD is used instead of HDD. Also I wonder how to utilize all RAM to speed up the compilation because I can see 8..34GB utilization while the rest of 128GB remains unused. I saw some ramdisk tricks I need to try that as well :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 18:01:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB142B7D52 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yBtT1sB3z4S9x for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.119.178]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mf0Je-1iop9A2BdC-00gVFH; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:01:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:01:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Viktor Madarasz Cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wecxvSfRKAtRZJLwoZ/50ICh/FJKh2fekXNZNlDAT58bjCMdEzk EK8REHMdE/QvqBDr9m47EJUk47sthpqXWGsA4hQkfudkHsCrq8g/GlF+TawDOA/mfU0XogD AZKRjWRSn0kYnRKoD25ou/udmvUEMdLHOcsnRnDTi6QcK56Xy1jcoDTu1IHDUOMfaDUDvl5 aRaMk7YlgXFKRxnmcXgiA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:NdIaZKquuP0=:L+JZcmMGvvbnfCg37HCjwY 1t6orUOF4hwFb9fuq2sVxAAe/Qj/kl/BfbYPDeSjxP8GrQKTlFQfObPLZCmi0bwn6cyTwCyne TCF+P6/v+zSIcp9nOd71bBsx7WuVgH/pMebwsHF6TtuJWhlYwp+D4nYzSkkWk9y6tH6lOHGxv VWS/O7JfB/YWc1EvRORduJaj41B3XklVmoSa6hJAKogxCcoht67zKDZbpdCHRrUR8xBvEkzpG 4xnX64eUFgZWADvoiVFAJVdOWaavy5gpmebGfW7rSRHeuGNo1IFEHmNzafyP52fJ2umCvJJiN 4tcQIh6uHGeYgFsBR36KQDMqLI4qCPVFpG8/h4IOxOFcfhkMqDOFOJjxTTdMNk3MaIxYxotfJ s5Uxao02cOCwYxEd2DTvkVGGsb768vEt4fJ9Rqq9TdS3sEdSbx+s1eg0RJHQd59CGgMBCh8bo sNbz7Bn1ieN1hQ94aTEzIPo/c9wdayaP8uIinCvjfrkGQ2/LXv+Hg+wY3GQwfXOzjVnvQfjg7 yCPY+fUNLscNpPFozoT/DTdUTDb0vxm7vdwYQtAQqcLqnYl+LanVmb3uPrGjDpVNasgaRWRtc rD4UHAvCicO8m7DzLKKlC2ljlbSUQXOtLtlmed+LjV9BKolhTsgPwBeLy3iFwzZtVsr4t3xtU sywVj1uyWSiaeWNWrDAdyplq1lPFlrTGa9VQQYpCluPjWBzRno4z362HY7aEosnk5n1DYiEjW TwLWfUvmzMr9kMGmFDMnvcSJxWV4R1Uc6oITO4jKhDpwv/5pQkhYYFXzSFdb3w4//Ou1jyD/a wgu/Ip00gHL++jWQ+Q6PPEId16jFfkerRdZo1rnLV7sITp/K1g5EeWZZSPL+KXWlP2r4EKO X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yBtT1sB3z4S9x X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.75 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.119.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.07)[0.072,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[ip: (0.44), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.16), asn: 8560(2.12), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:01:54 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: > Very nicely written article I liked it ... I also saw there is a FreeBSD > Porting Manual/Handbook Yes, that is the "FreeBSD Porter's Handbook": https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ It contains a general description of the framework and tools you will be using when porting an application to FreeBSD. > By the look of it with my untrained eye it looked a lot like shell > scripting and following a given syntax and cheking builds and update > dependencies ---> this with my eyes without having a clue so dont judge me > on that :) You are basically right. The ports infrastructure uses both shell scripts and Makefile (with BSD make) to accomplish a wide set of goals. See the ports collection itself as a "collection of recipes on how to obtain, build, install, update, remove, or modify applications". THere are also some files with specific content that act as a "port description". An outline of how this works can be found in the porter's handbook mentioned above. > I always thought porting would mean to bring something over which does not > exist .. from zero .. like SecureCRT (has it open thats why, its a closed > source SSH/Terminal emulator has windows/mac os / linux versions ) and > figure out how to make it work on FreeBSD ** without it existing in any > form of port or binary for FreeBSD ** That's not fully correct. In some cases, ports are unique to FreeBSD - a comparable program does not exist anywhere else. A port can also be a program originally written for Linux, with patches, now available on FreeBSD. But a port can also be a device driver, released by the manufacturer, in binary form - no sources involved. Whenever you build a port, the end result typically is a pkg-style package. This package can then be installed. Don't be fooled by "make install" maybe suggesting something else - no, it exactly does that: build a package to be installed. In many cases, it compiles some source, maybe installs required dependencies (build dependencies and runtime dependencies), but sometimes it just fetches a binary blob from a specified source. > Where can I go to get some more step by step and training materials on > this Porting thing? IRC? other mail list? Telegram chat? >From the "lists.freebsd.org Mailing Lists" directory, the list "freebsd-ports - Porting software to FreeBSD" sounds quite suitable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 18:11:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565892B7F0F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yC5C4b3Wz4SfT for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 038IAxDc015120 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:10:59 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Polytropon cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yC5C4b3Wz4SfT X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.77), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:11:13 -0000 Thanks Polytropon Lot of nice information in the response.. Well the only thing it reminds me is the system slackware used called Slackbuilds.. seems remotely similar.. Go read .... On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, Polytropon wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:01:49 +0200 > From: Polytropon > To: Viktor Madarasz > Cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 15:43:27 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: >> Very nicely written article I liked it ... I also saw there is a FreeBSD >> Porting Manual/Handbook > > Yes, that is the "FreeBSD Porter's Handbook": > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ > > It contains a general description of the framework and tools > you will be using when porting an application to FreeBSD. > > > >> By the look of it with my untrained eye it looked a lot like shell >> scripting and following a given syntax and cheking builds and update >> dependencies ---> this with my eyes without having a clue so dont judge me >> on that :) > > You are basically right. The ports infrastructure uses both > shell scripts and Makefile (with BSD make) to accomplish a > wide set of goals. See the ports collection itself as a > "collection of recipes on how to obtain, build, install, > update, remove, or modify applications". THere are also > some files with specific content that act as a "port > description". An outline of how this works can be found > in the porter's handbook mentioned above. > > > >> I always thought porting would mean to bring something over which does not >> exist .. from zero .. like SecureCRT (has it open thats why, its a closed >> source SSH/Terminal emulator has windows/mac os / linux versions ) and >> figure out how to make it work on FreeBSD ** without it existing in any >> form of port or binary for FreeBSD ** > > That's not fully correct. In some cases, ports are unique to > FreeBSD - a comparable program does not exist anywhere else. > A port can also be a program originally written for Linux, > with patches, now available on FreeBSD. But a port can also > be a device driver, released by the manufacturer, in binary > form - no sources involved. > > Whenever you build a port, the end result typically is a > pkg-style package. This package can then be installed. Don't > be fooled by "make install" maybe suggesting something else - > no, it exactly does that: build a package to be installed. > In many cases, it compiles some source, maybe installs > required dependencies (build dependencies and runtime > dependencies), but sometimes it just fetches a binary blob > from a specified source. > > > >> Where can I go to get some more step by step and training materials on >> this Porting thing? IRC? other mail list? Telegram chat? > >> From the "lists.freebsd.org Mailing Lists" directory, the > list "freebsd-ports - Porting software to FreeBSD" sounds > quite suitable. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 18:19:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAA62783F2; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruslanngaripov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x242.google.com (mail-lj1-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::242]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yCGs74Ssz4T0M; 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RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:19:35 -0000 On 4/8/2020 9:05 PM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:53 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: >>> I wrongly assumed that release will simply update this svn repo that I >>> am working on.. but it fetches HEAD.. so I was trying to build >>> 13/HEAD/CURRENT on 12/STABLE/RELEASE that have different ABI thus bad >>> syscall.. and I need CURRENT to build CURRENT, right? :-) >> I believe in order to build the source tree you just need a compatible >> toolchain. So you can build the source tree for 13.0-CURRENT on >> 12.1-RELEASE system. But you need CURRENT to **run** userland with ABI >> from the CURRENT. > > Long story short I need 13-CURRENT to create a 13-CURRENT release with > release(7) because on 12-STABLE/RELEASE chroot with 13-CURRENT does > not work. Of course, because release(7) runs built userland; in your case it runs userland with FreeBSD 13 ABI on FreeBSD 12.x host. > I need to see how it works with `make release` :-) This is what I meant when saying "you can build the source tree for 13.0-CURRENT on 12.1-RELEASE"; sorry if I've confused you. Check ``Building with release.sh on -STABLE'' thread[1] on the forum. May be it can help you. > > >> Once again: for native build `make release` may be quite easy and fast. >> release(7) guarantees "absolutely clean build environment". > > Will try that `make release` as well, also for 13-CURRENT on > 12-STABLE, thank you! Also will compare the time cost with the one > presented below :-) > > > Creating a "release" also has this advantage that I have memstick > images that I can boot from directly, test what I need, even no need > to install :-) > > Here are my build times, for a release for AMD64/12-STABLE, I did not > select DOC nor PORTS to build, only Kernel and Base :-) > > BUILD HOST (~$500): HP PROLIANT DL380G7X (HDD 1TB, 128GB RAM, 24vCPU = > 2 x Intel Xeon X5660 @2.8GHz = 2 PACKAGES x 6 CORES x 2 HW THREADS ) > INTERNET: 600/60MBit > > time make clean buildkernel (16x speedup with SMP): > 2472.027u 291.657s 46:34.54 98.8% 38592+3123k > 195123+3315182io 80167pf+0w > -j12 2355.140u 282.807s 3:40.12 1198.4% 38509+3121k > 190142+3361605io 71356pf+0w > -j24 3672.641u 382.254s 2:54.85 2319.0% 39837+3149k > 218567+3361605io 64857pf+0w > -j48 3722.707u 352.940s 3:07.10 2178.3% 40328+3169k > 214359+3361607io 66526pf+0w > > time make clean buildworld (12.5x speedup with SMP): > 32223.598u 1940.942s 9:28:07.59 100.2% 46920+3430k > 563493+3074126io 234706pf+0w > -j12 33644.438u 1818.147s 54:46.68 1078.9% 47324+3449k > 485257+3255853io 236896pf+0w > -j24 50728.732u 2556.953s 45:06.66 1968.6% 47556+3455k > 560905+3255862io 229433pf+0w > -j48 51129.166u 2454.564s 44:38.12 2000.7% 47630+3458k > 525602+3255854io 210237pf+0w > > release.sh (seems to auto-adjust -j optimization and below 2h looks > really cool): Yes, release(7) sets number of make(1) jobs to the number of available CPUs (hw.ncpu) for buildworld target, and half of that number for buildkernel one. "2h looks really cool" because release(7) may build chrooted build environment, where it then may build port(s) and builds the target. My Xeons usually spends 1.5 hours on clean release(7) (with 16 make(1) jobs). > 94556.462u 5583.273s 1:43:14.24 1616.6% 50234+3336k > 1457023+16921354io 615421pf+0w > -j12 94477.001u 5577.692s 1:42:59.60 1619.1% 50251+3337k > 1463964+16932952io 617689pf+0w > -j24 94480.274u 5574.117s 1:43:38.89 1608.8% 50213+3336k > 1468685+16931170io 617425pf+0w > -j48 94588.653u 5569.909s 1:43:10.62 1617.9% 50211+3336k > 1460546+16925145io 611229pf+0w > > These times may be even smaller when SSD is used instead of HDD. For me it almost changed nothing, only CPU resources counted. > Also > I wonder how to utilize all RAM to speed up the compilation because I > can see 8..34GB utilization while the rest of 128GB remains unused. By installing additional CPU(s) which will allow you to run more make(1) jobs in parallel. My -j16 builds consume about 16-18 GB (at peaks). > I > saw some ramdisk tricks I need to try that as well :-) > > Best regards :-) > Tomek > [1] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/building-with-release-sh-on-stable.70889/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 18:25:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D4E278A50 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yCQ83MX7z4Ttn for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.119.178]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbAtM-1ikzpd44Eq-00bd6K; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:25:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:25:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Viktor Madarasz Cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mxFSMPO+gDgRIXNERdtK3lm1s2281H1lKXEq91WKdOmBU0FtMzC 7mkM1kqZYMVu1EA/a02Ps7W8xb9gxxEF1Qtyh2t3D0natLi4XOQ9mfAwKxWu3DNNlTvZ12j RCrO3GHPmN/zVjEoiWDktSPHq/MjDACC6HhldSdRDAsssKtJm8gLEpcPAlC0bdm0K0p5c4w Xb/MDVoMEYQjd64hlqefg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:FPoQpqvq/BI=:0PJa5Y9cbyhTq6FPyhe46B 5YBDDV8smMAKwi0DO/kmtAbY4wI0cTLdqxBsIVQDH1zxaYYi3Rw7jpJ6Gk3i3PHillG2fw7rw /EyZCS2/s4wl+taaTYcn0fGJOPLUhrHcGW7WEjat6Cm0o4JG9kXDw+0jJ/Mhch1eAC00JJ1C1 TF22lA+cbVrprAQ7U5i+21JeSEyN/cQy/SdYV2X+QTMciUBA7fya8TBPo35/Z5gRUbQaJ0lqS IeAGDM7117LyHMH5URpUeHCWthNmZbQ/nzI6RFjfR6eueLvYHOtfv6zubibVM38lq/wLAWkdf XoCdKhwAP+oicF0rjeVSF191zmpuEIobMSVHy2KDJcrtx8PwlQaoayMHPzYBvMaxhDT+3bP7g mFNYpLYZGLWLdF2huqyC6/PvarK/IlKJLmSkJ4b0ujbfvtBjM5LhBOjhp3WB19QXyI5QYlLdT YXc4WAJUnWK7shcNEUpmeAN3zABq5bSd75oYpUycELQKRUUIQYVaj95MUgWFdqM/nzY82Zyir KYrrxFO7vZMUYnsnzZUs1l4WsiKBu6Lb1IvjXbNuMgJAbeQddCJgEvZEkRuVpXdssELwqE3nG zKC99N75WyFoQAPmLGWFPBpNZmLoTGoxm0M4uDOmso2/YD+/h1XAPqgdLNQ/THEvxvRHYwByf WJC50IDJSNSKR1n6/Xqydb47b8wjs7OblQVq063jMV1LjUX1LCaw47ReAXvJ5YpT8O8JmHDZA JJFSOqjXB19JBjWG6JLO+Md/MXp9yg+kBs8sLNul66pF7V72T5nPByCQ57wL9owHSUMfi71n/ 57HGmie89xzMo8BDXxxNveF/mcPlpoDBnEbBbvOTgN9JbMJ4xd9BKwxWc5KuKWqxpWOkYWf X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yCQ83MX7z4Ttn X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.27 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.119.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.39)[0.388,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.48)[ip: (1.45), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.16), asn: 8560(2.12), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:25:54 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: > Well the only thing it reminds me is the system slackware used called > Slackbuilds.. seems remotely similar.. Yes, there is (was?) something comparable over in Linux land. If I remember correctly, Gentoo also supported a more or less standardized infrastructure to obtain sources from a repository and build applications from it, instead of manually downloading tar-balls, extracting them, "./configure && make && make install", or, today's fashion, "curl myapp.example.com | sudo bash". Wait, today git must always be involved... :-) By the way, Slackware was my introduction to Linux on the PC. I still have the 2 CD jewel case and the magazine. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 18:47:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4AB27928F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yCty4rCsz4W4j for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 038IlGdX012496 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:47:16 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:47:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Polytropon cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yCty4rCsz4W4j X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.76), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 18:47:23 -0000 I remember when Red Hat Linux was a free Operating System :) but we shall say no more :) FreeBSD still has the linux compatibility layer? i had the impression it was phased out at some point or not really spoken about for some time? I go check about Ports on FreeBSD Viktor On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, Polytropon wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:25:49 +0200 > From: Polytropon > To: Viktor Madarasz > Cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: >> Well the only thing it reminds me is the system slackware used called >> Slackbuilds.. seems remotely similar.. > > Yes, there is (was?) something comparable over in Linux land. > If I remember correctly, Gentoo also supported a more or less > standardized infrastructure to obtain sources from a repository > and build applications from it, instead of manually downloading > tar-balls, extracting them, "./configure && make && make install", > or, today's fashion, "curl myapp.example.com | sudo bash". Wait, > today git must always be involved... :-) > > By the way, Slackware was my introduction to Linux on the PC. > I still have the 2 CD jewel case and the magazine. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 19:06:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6641A279B16 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yDJr1pV6z4XLR for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.119.178]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXH3e-1jnGxa0fBm-00Ylyz; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 21:06:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:06:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Viktor Madarasz Cc: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200408210615.2d33ebf0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:AupyPGMP1138ftpdJrXf0373mjeQXVUddRm7oMqur+JEpqRvQOR 5g8nlCjDNMeISOjoMfafQbsq/MXkEAJXWBroul9jwZeWGIWUS0NoH/zPnBDuCflOxDE/2fr LU8IlsO/cuscibhnC/dzqMu8E4PDQ7ITaRIta2YBfd3sMjvmgeF05cb2Ym72EtGwy6Tmadr eVsaWuINE9Aduia2ICocQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Jr+4FjcrdLQ=:0KaaJlzZJODm4viJvUqf+9 NbTlt49/iGZ129ZxsnLzESWYYM3jDCWDHZKa3IcyeqBJP1LfNdSAAJ8ZkkvqPi8BZQNm0YCRr b+DXYEez3ZmtKif+l9OZ0f4VT/djtLlRY2mliW+YhyRoV6SqoR+UEqjvs83brGM0jntaV3sf1 PurxVE9KLzHFs8odCFZ2Db6n57B9J+uIgVlWpS9icSmgM5UVH5P+I6ciR2hvb/7aK4uTXfmOw zuZIbjCYt2o2RgFa2JmcgU/tkJzwS2MH0S7VPwsXAWnhs5cmd+bWRsrannZUwgOdQLBf2p8Le unz9Lhcf3WOrW62rCB+1/l3nb8dUWb249I12CrLZk+r1L4G1uX4KEC2sDOOn+f1bqXLcRuiu9 gfk0N/on4Sy58CN43nnG85L/Z61smgwb2FOsRuZQiiEGHJqwqo7Su2JkjVNxSSAHJtTTXT+J9 w19e22vkaC+/Lw3d8yCRaavWvuRoXjQEd0W7CjB7RuivgH8kZjHNn8ecyq3sqAgN5CfxobqUN tghIbb77qPuKV0AuZ3rK0MWehZ6kDwlWdQScHF8C0ELheVTAzHve2s1uMpsn2NfcN7rrQbrIT 0ZzPF5NH8llZFbDlVliMLx9R9ejPQ4DUFNHYw+Ik1dP/4Fm5QTj4QwvXfMa1xK0SeOSWsnOoV GbtfuXmnATMg+6q//37Q5u7NsMcBHEJRD2Css4cFXRQGj/56uwghU6hH2pHwyfydz2JEMtktM +j7LzLYxHdwSWOJDZoZZMoWG2Crm4JndMvKG7AxhsFbM3qV7KtuWUN+WMrFH0INGoWwQDpStp t9YjTRuk7o8QxE4ZfWCeDyzsd4iwwrCVKhMSP1ZHpIfAyr1vbL1eCvxnFnvs3fU8orx1368 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yDJr1pV6z4XLR X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.133) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.58 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.119.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.14)[-0.139,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.995,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ip: (0.66), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.16), asn: 8560(2.12), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 19:06:21 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:47:16 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: > FreeBSD still has the linux compatibility layer? i had the impression it > was phased out at some point or not really spoken about for some time? Yes, the Linux ABI is still present in the kernel. With pkg, you can install the compatibility tools; it uses CentOS 7 to populate the /compat/linux subtree, and there are several Linux applications in the ports tree that run fine on FreeBSD. I have even tried this for games - it works! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Wait, > today git must always be involved... :-) Err... what about pkgsrc? It evolved from FreeBSD ports. I use it to compile and install applications on Debian. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 19:52:15 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4568727B061 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yFKp0K22z4ZbV for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.119.178]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MYvoW-1jr7OZ1YC8-00UrZc; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 21:52:07 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:52:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ottavio Caruso Cc: Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions , Evilham , Viktor Madarasz Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200408215206.c270316b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5EY0CvcijZDtkvtOPy2inkfxwgDQiuSyyH4lGeFXAsfldqU+RvM VUXQPHbOa4inauUYKeRwUlJtn2EPfZvTXWxJYTPce7BbGH0srqmbEZ57HtkAluQCAqdj/32 ImDF62wCD6N789XnEBbgZ4rx64ZSHW7jBeOnLhS270E0GnDz3M+9wqoUDFTgxWAwp0LJeNZ xGRMBUpqD89OtlWk1Q4Bw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ZMglQIEaS24=:ciSKD2vb1ro7OpLro9KaR4 lwmultljVKso6k9vNYuC3HuIXyeARtCHsXuWB4fhgTH8JDti62ZR/dTp0fnFCIUPJF3BhhUkr e29RwWwsRaEkz03Vg3WViihLkKVmL8wBGH09nq57ldC5uDZzdkV7D5WvpQVXt8uF29tBweZ8Y CfqrZYVH3HdwQQ19t+1MdgUtV+JXbxBLKs0f0tQ2kiN7mzyNXCil1EsCnoLoe0NMIG5HoV2Ll Gf5fxy82FElW307TYx0bA7p3GG6+8ZbglwNiJPOA+5g2a0ToRSrD1rcew6E6+jVvchEpyolQu mPS3aHJRidq94SN4e5CmUD64ubBFwxqFaFhuBiND/X/aOt4tCPQYzxUU8PhKdxXOlerJvkZHv bmSWp0SaPOpzSFZ4AXNll9NqAQdTw/ptC8JYsoi7tuQNBnfNhLug0rzfCMiXi3Ty0R4xsxroD iIED7cevp6+pjQ3cSoMPOSuFxynSmRW9oV7x/a3dM+9aOIa4z+VPmhW4+E1BPbrlXlAs7/yIY 5r2XUb9wh4W+F8xGrHbj/6yIC9Xy95NJROwyucBBZDzX3z4zM2Mzx4+epdqJZ57Rfiy1FB8cG s/0YDVaLztVC3xMrEXuGNNrAEZNMChLlwmh9AeNhOJSr7VQIwjmp26YXZUd1r1Kk4j0m6mvLb TDSqXP4mj+bRgHwJERUQUWzCAN8KMBYiBRQe5PoItdSiTYqV6RGiv+AnOACcQWMmhqlh+uxTr LXh0KMzh9rXHDsnE1tRsvogKi1gH+it28v/IDp1KVb5pi4s5fHs6yHJaRtau2r5O7tHo/ykC+ EYDlQL/uGMQ2aOcP6fvx4Kiz6PLYA8PoaP8aqZL4ugyj3hqnMbJq5Bvusn44xoRpCR/5oBs X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yFKp0K22z4ZbV X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.08 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.119.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.24)[0.243,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.43)[ip: (1.22), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.16), asn: 8560(2.12), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 19:52:15 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:08:17 +0100, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 19:25, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:10:59 +0000 (UTC), Viktor Madarasz wrote: > > > Well the only thing it reminds me is the system slackware used called > > > Slackbuilds.. seems remotely similar.. > > > > Yes, there is (was?) something comparable over in Linux land. > > If I remember correctly, Gentoo also supported a more or less > > standardized infrastructure to obtain sources from a repository > > and build applications from it, instead of manually downloading > > tar-balls, extracting them, "./configure && make && make install", > > or, today's fashion, "curl myapp.example.com | sudo bash". Wait, > > today git must always be involved... :-) > > > Err... what about pkgsrc? It evolved from FreeBSD ports. I use it to > compile and install applications on Debian. Yes! Exactly that slipped my mind. I haven't used Debian for years, but of course how pkgsrc worked was quite comparable to FreeBSD, I remember that. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 20:59:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC9027C4D1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yGpx5Kjmz4dSv for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 20:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id g74so1771992qke.13 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=eHmczYAIeaAN+zLRHW11ypjqfj7makRsW4IRHEqBRlA=; b=GAZjZcA2qBrhS8KXg8GdWy9/xCjmklGIogdYHbq2UKFN+io9gbQgGvNL+JWB223oy2 cIPUjB5Dq23KVAw7zRP4mBta9LdYXjGE4LqvIpBvIo+ZJncgppyikIbs0UHB6KAxpWT+ Hqtf5Xs7nCXYmrHPWWiPmhZwSPdI87YJPDcYK7p0ZbniIQocT6Z3PM6SVMN2bsjY94Mn wVCIfGyBww0hnihA6OtBnjtEqShsr7ei385I3/5jmfJAceZbS3Knc8ATxeilIaBRekCM sCUzjWoZJVWaZ00Rz9MTvajuvr3FMXgrvNhHc5GlZXdpSaYa7+HuTCX1IV82LkmeqT20 6PFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=eHmczYAIeaAN+zLRHW11ypjqfj7makRsW4IRHEqBRlA=; b=m9PH+6X3RVXseUbw+jsaWLRW9tHzPraFojUgvJTdmbaeMYj4vdJaW7F6S6+G1XINTT HxO0Xe+Z87+YbWNxT5CstSIAbW8DhvUfLaK8WdMuyYaOzXX6SsJNRjlSSSSJKLW3j26x /VRZfHRGn5AvYJvnRAhJycRWgKx9ruvY/wZo0TLhlC1kfBeIfDMaRq6NlFNI5k69OY0z zcybzkk8SSv86A+2MwMVSEPrnIITtOx/jpg+/SEtA8deULM9kdkEJUnli4MnjRseaPXI ppxCucnMU6hG3rr3x/JN2iaNaJDUJOJgw9MJCTx+F/uAYlLpn9Pwpa7L2zHak7vFmgpu k7Ug== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYMnI/m3eiU69ZzNDtxwASydyBWoDKW4a9CjAqAOshrY0C213vc /gWwiM2ZG6xh77Ns+XbsachUJXVaFkDVvnycMZICvQdyTWg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJG/sLWa8Ce+o8YYsN/MgIDePSKGt6CpANtr5M2b0HHP0BMRxQc/dNnIoBEeTJyxrirQIkvjgb+Vy1EoR7FcOg= X-Received: by 2002:a37:682:: with SMTP id 124mr9530717qkg.25.1586379544159; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408210615.2d33ebf0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200408210615.2d33ebf0.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:58:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question (fwd) To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yGpx5Kjmz4dSv X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=GAZjZcA2; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kudzu@tenebras.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::736) smtp.mailfrom=kudzu@tenebras.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tenebras.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.01)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 20:59:06 -0000 On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:06 PM Polytropon wrote: > > Yes, the Linux ABI is still present in the kernel. With pkg, > you can install the compatibility tools; it uses CentOS 7 to > populate the /compat/linux subtree, and there are several > Linux applications in the ports tree that run fine on FreeBSD. > I have even tried this for games - it works! :-) > > Forgive my ignorance, but the last time I seriously looked at Linux compatibility, it was strictly 32-bit. Has that changed? --=20 "Well," Brahm=C4=81 said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is = no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 21:16:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28F727CA4F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com (mail-ot1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yHBp3hH3z4fLd for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id f52so8305775otf.8 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BAwyN3/2pCkWJbCd9LhKfwlPYdSgmQCCnHk7nV2TaVg=; b=jUTg2pnIoW9YAeFxyQsVdb/4ok/jp/urwZI8ReDg2qdtpfdziXwFN+uRGspYCdkbvB gZE6aTVA1Pw8mGeAer0Ax6JrWqGXtsK+0N05hvegso5rWyOkGeLDo2rZEM/0spc2RKoB v5s4sT69xq6Lwm/DXgHekzjNqOIWzzadamIQH1jrGUwSn/C8zScK6XIANZjsGfpqd0Kd mF/mnYrwUNMaQj2IHlCBO+4h8u7SLDEEmmLooL3MFd9f5M1GlIFeybjNYuW4GrLeVT3h Det0vjQU0jwSxaZymav44roLCBqyC0JCaDDMlMdfwSFYpCddgYf5RHOUEYNgSagWdnWR bOYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BAwyN3/2pCkWJbCd9LhKfwlPYdSgmQCCnHk7nV2TaVg=; b=lsStUEuXe2nvg0Qg+UD+MBIwCnC488Jhrdqz7ni5ikEyqx3OKOixIFFGa/ycnyRnuh 1sg/GP3lBFOhN7ll4fHMCO0iuV9fjVOKHptxiejKOyl5+d4DBFdHTDyJ01YhQRn1ABXu XlwW0TQa70m4UywYp/CvWiXBjWsFnB+bWLJ17fna8xWYZmiIs53ucUYTvE9wkuFiLfXm LxMOvAtXS26QMFLiiQDsF9Cm0Wv70SxmsZywVBbjxlJx33eN9fIhU+Ni82XlDYbUiLp8 CFV/zUsFaPiI5ftFY5SoX6vEEks28p2XBYFDwS5e2siR7HXc+4gb+U4tK/e8B20pM0yM UgGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYwSAXy9S87HZHKB81EdHJVx52dd0v28wGVAvzcFkiTxvo98cL2 sADKEjWPGJWGxqDQNL/mYZqI2u+oMo4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI/GZHTaNVM7VTBS5/W2HWV1VuhY5S92xVduAc/1UnUFv11+0VbXJddPBsUindfhPGB3jIoyA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1190:: with SMTP id u16mr7672766otq.83.1586380576900; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-f51.google.com (mail-ot1-f51.google.com. [209.85.210.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g18sm7548836oib.36.2020.04.08.14.16.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f51.google.com with SMTP id f52so8305655otf.8; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a4a:d011:: with SMTP id h17mr6882826oor.78.1586380575344; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:16:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <281e95ff-a1c2-c759-2918-783cb8edf1b7@gmail.com> <67026913-5a6d-4763-a985-e2739de9d147@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 23:15:50 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Ruslan Garipov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yHBp3hH3z4fLd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=jUTg2pnI; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.04 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.74)[ip: (-7.91), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 21:16:20 -0000 On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 8:19 PM Ruslan Garipov wrote: > > I need to see how it works with `make release` :-) > This is what I meant when saying "you can build the source tree for > 13.0-CURRENT on 12.1-RELEASE"; sorry if I've confused you. No worries, my little confusion came from `make release` being a bit picky: 1. I need to buildworld first (can use -j switch, make release will not call it). 2. I need to buildkernel first (can use -j switch, make release will not call it). 3. Only then I can run `make release` (cannot use -j switch). I get as good result as I need with memstick and iso images in around 19 minutes plus I can build CURRENT that way.. now I may be ready to cross-compile :-) 3858.923u 331.683s 19:19.24 361.4% 171+561k 499674+1215072io 131833pf+0w > Check ``Building with release.sh on -STABLE'' thread[1] on the forum. > May be it can help you. Thank you for the reference! :-) > "2h looks really cool" because release(7) may build chrooted build > environment, where it then may build port(s) and builds the target. My > Xeons usually spends 1.5 hours on clean release(7) (with 16 make(1) > jobs). A bit better but very similar result, thanks for reference.. and the SSD hint :-) With this power I can compile a clean firmware for my projects based on ARM mbedOS in 2 minutes instead 12 minutes (as compared to laptop build) and connect the build to a git hook.. then speeding up a bit could return a binary right away as a result of git push :-) :-) In a free moment it would be fun to play with FreeBSD on ARM.. I have tried that several times before but with no luck.. and I really have different boards around to test :-) Again GREAT THANK YOU Ruslan for your time support and all hints!! :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Apr 8 21:26:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE3E27CF78 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yHQL1y2wz4fwy for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2020 21:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id w2so1376512oic.5 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xCL6pTK/GOKtUUrFaXvpb2A/kk2gnLL9qVlAZiELL6o=; b=TnyT+MnwQAG+ZwphkpmVtfaTnbvbm1atOEbOA17sC9Xl2pAS4S3OCVqkl0QVXW5btj UUoT1IanDAxHsTwIVTsgbL1sAuqMCzajVRKiLYRSLFOIVGSYzGnrqzh5LYveskTmxGju k2EfMKgIR7LqS6DztnpLEj9GJBIhbWYOXBhmIgFt/x1CgibZx+1T5rowkAJMBSqwBRUf 29TFdzDJjOUulImQISywZJY3bIFDZC8X183vWwrAqeesevOfUYokaNtr+OfAnRwG7elV TwBaNe3hWBScWkjPYYQd8f81Zk/DVSg+6mX1qdoR0zhfJk/XoA7hVfrD0IcWF7VzX6pp GlvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xCL6pTK/GOKtUUrFaXvpb2A/kk2gnLL9qVlAZiELL6o=; b=rSZL/P5EGthv6Sv5gSR4No6AAO05GZ75oYU0oPl3Nll64hyev4nZW2J0qWRQS1eU0J E/+g+4k7DTahUjQADrsnXt1wQaqFeO8mz434FSLn5JW34LwgtqHe7iX+arpP+vZC7RT5 qP5f3FP8rar4FLCfkA0Yxyq2Re/s7/Nb1m7MQJx+fPKakW+CCd+Vs4hb3hb4bJN+W/n0 7xh/CGdvrXTU5A+Cn0FCa+nbn9UwEsjGyqqJIx42GAKrgYgd5QayQZRXY8O/uXYOtyS8 t/o6kbI4AO+4PLHbamCPt4D7tp9C02dWbQXRqejZD6X/onKryJAmIi99j3LGLR0creG5 9ouw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuY6a8BOhxf7SKy76Mpk6eCQUBz3mkfIkgn6F2Ur6pfsDlweP8FG XC04mlXT2dmsSBkEN2jE7N00Iatzzc0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKwOKt1ja/bIrW+fCfzX67NPIZwESwttjR1B5glJcI0uVxCsD7wdMtaxXhZuhtEy/N6khKgLw== X-Received: by 2002:aca:4f09:: with SMTP id d9mr111788oib.172.1586381176574; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f180.google.com (mail-oi1-f180.google.com. [209.85.167.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g8sm3121058oom.2.2020.04.08.14.26.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f180.google.com with SMTP id w2so1376379oic.5; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:4f57:: with SMTP id d84mr1374724oib.161.1586381174932; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <281e95ff-a1c2-c759-2918-783cb8edf1b7@gmail.com> <67026913-5a6d-4763-a985-e2739de9d147@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 23:25:52 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: /usr/src/release/release.sh -> ports -> fetch pkg -> Bad system call (core dumped) To: Ruslan Garipov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yHQL1y2wz4fwy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=TnyT+Mnw; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::236) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.91)[ip: (-8.73), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 21:26:19 -0000 Summing up the time cost for a clean svn co and make buildkernel buildworld release is around 75minutes while the chroot build with release(7) is around 100minutes for my hardware setup. Builds using make are more reasonable for driver fixes because then I can only rebuild small part of the code which will result in much shorter build times. 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I'm running 11.3-STABLE in the kernel LINT file I see options GEOM_LINUX_LVM options COMPAT_LINUXKPI options COMPAT_LINUX32 but COMPAT_LINUX no longer is a recognized symbol. .... Hmmm... On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:58:28PM -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:06 PM Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, the Linux ABI is still present in the kernel. With pkg, > > > you can install the compatibility tools; it uses CentOS 7 to > > > populate the /compat/linux subtree, and there are several > > > Linux applications in the ports tree that run fine on FreeBSD. > > > I have even tried this for games - it works! :-) > > > > > > > > Forgive my ignorance, but the last time I seriously looked at Linux > > compatibility, it was strictly 32-bit. 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[115.22.41.203.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-3.31)[ip: (-9.74), ipnet: 203.40.0.0/13(-4.25), asn: 1221(-2.59), country: AU(0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 02:43:36 -0000 On 9/04/2020 12:11 pm, Michael Sierchio wrote: > For a number of reasons I tend to create monolithic kernels, and prevent > loading kernel modules after boot. > > I'm running 11.3-STABLE > > in the kernel LINT file I see > > options GEOM_LINUX_LVM > > options COMPAT_LINUXKPI > > options COMPAT_LINUX32 > > > but COMPAT_LINUX no longer is a recognized symbol. .... Hmmm... > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: I just ran make LINT on my FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE #0 r359640M: Mon Apr 6 which has, on i386: LINT:options GEOM_LINUX_LVM LINT:options COMPAT_LINUXKPI LINT:options COMPAT_LINUX while the amd64 version has: LINT:options GEOM_LINUX_LVM LINT:options COMPAT_LINUXKPI LINT:options COMPAT_LINUX32 which explains things. 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Wed, 08 Apr 2020 19:47:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200408200149.8d6464a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408202549.873d7b41.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408210615.2d33ebf0.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200408224416.GA54686@neutralgood.org> <19f535c7-f014-0c09-a756-909bf4f343e9@heuristicsystems.com.au> In-Reply-To: <19f535c7-f014-0c09-a756-909bf4f343e9@heuristicsystems.com.au> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 19:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question (fwd) To: Dewayne Geraghty Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yQY071pxz3yr5 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=PZZiT1hn; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kudzu@tenebras.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::729) smtp.mailfrom=kudzu@tenebras.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; 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Hmmm... > > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM Kevin P. Neal > wrote: > > I just ran make LINT on my FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE #0 r359640M: Mon Apr 6 > which has, on i386: > > LINT:options GEOM_LINUX_LVM > LINT:options COMPAT_LINUXKPI > LINT:options COMPAT_LINUX > > while the amd64 version has: > LINT:options GEOM_LINUX_LVM > LINT:options COMPAT_LINUXKPI > LINT:options COMPAT_LINUX32 > > which explains things. > I'm not yet enlightened, Sensei. ;-) Yes, as you correctly infer, I am running amd64 kernel. 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There is No BSD User Group in the country where > > I live-reside > > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity > > to do so as > > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write > > English, Spanish , > > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those > > languages as > > well... > > > > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these > > things? > > > Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; > though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical > meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. > Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like > PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people who > might not be as well-versed in English. > Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, > just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. > > For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed > to do anything with it just yet. > I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an > abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them and > maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and revive > it :-) (that would be pretty cool). I want to be in that User Group project. I have contacted Manuel Trujillo, from Barcelona area, who is/was in es.freebsd staff, to know the es.freebd current status. In 2006 and 2008 we organized two BSDCon at Barcelona. Both, Viktor and you Andres, can count with me for this BUG project. > Cheers, > -- > Evilham --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 08:45:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5093D2B2E7D for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 08:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yZVP6BkHz4KJg for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 08:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0398jm2a001155 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 08:45:48 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 08:45:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> Message-ID: References: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yZVP6BkHz4KJg X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.839,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.76), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 08:45:51 -0000 Hi Ok, lets see if we can get into that BSD User Group and make it some more active once this whole lockdown is over ... What email You used to contact Manuel Trujillo? I shall send him a mail to include me there in that BSD User Group if possible... Viktor On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:54:22 +0200 > From: Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions > Reply-To: Eduardo Morras > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 > Evilham wrote: > >> >>> Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where >>> I live-reside >>> (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity >>> to do so as >>> there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write >>> English, Spanish , >>> Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those >>> languages as >>> well... >>> >>> Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these >>> things? >> >> >> Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; >> though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical >> meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. >> Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like >> PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people who >> might not be as well-versed in English. >> Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, >> just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. >> >> For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed >> to do anything with it just yet. >> I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an >> abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them and >> maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and revive >> it :-) (that would be pretty cool). > > I want to be in that User Group project. I have contacted Manuel > Trujillo, from Barcelona area, who is/was in es.freebsd staff, to know > the es.freebd current status. > > In 2006 and 2008 we organized two BSDCon at Barcelona. Both, Viktor and > you Andres, can count with me for this BUG project. > > >> Cheers, >> -- >> Evilham > > --- --- > Eduardo Morras > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 09:08:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD862B3BA4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [IPv6:2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yb0F0Bd9z4LZ7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48yb043Vr6zfZB; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:08:04 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=sw5e3KkWYn+LoTuVlz1eVNcTu78=; b=YS65bB ge8Vtx1DlYBWPdU4dxK7iMM2TWM391Ornt8XaI4ijebh+Z5EJWBIm9o354Os5U/3 afEPqN+VoYxqoaDmOzj6dWSR+8Va5RCwr60f0bRzMeDzqnYb6bT78zMhq4VnAlTR wKRQDHw17+cDlmdZ+WpaKwQuKg0rKEPU2CYJ8= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48yb0373YWzfZ9; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:08:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: Eduardo Morras Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) References: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> In-reply-to: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:07:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yb0F0Bd9z4LZ7 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=YS65bB g; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.es]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:2a02:2770::/32, country:NL]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.86), ipnet: 2a02:2770::/32(-4.68), asn: 196752(-3.68), country: NL(0.03)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 09:08:14 -0000 On dj., abr. 09 2020, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 > Evilham wrote: > >> >> > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country >> > where >> > I live-reside >> > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good >> > opportunity >> > to do so as >> > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write >> > English, Spanish , >> > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with >> > those >> > languages as >> > well... >> > >> > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these >> > things? >> >> >> Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; >> though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have >> physical >> meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. >> Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit >> like >> PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people >> who >> might not be as well-versed in English. >> Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, >> just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. >> >> For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't >> managed >> to do anything with it just yet. >> I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an >> abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them >> and >> maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and >> revive >> it :-) (that would be pretty cool). > > I want to be in that User Group project. I have contacted Manuel > Trujillo, from Barcelona area, who is/was in es.freebsd staff, > to know > the es.freebd current status. > > In 2006 and 2008 we organized two BSDCon at Barcelona. Both, > Viktor and > you Andres, can count with me for this BUG project. Nice, I noticed that but somehow it feels as though the BSDs are not that present around here. Keep us posted with news from this person :-). I was considering maybe even making a CFP (call for participation?!) online, to get a feeling of who'd be able to attend such a thing, so that hopefully the first time it is reasonable to have a physical meeting it's more than 2 people :-p. -- Evilham From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 09:16:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DA2B4098 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yb9Z3NR6z4MCD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0399GCux018175 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:16:13 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:16:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Evilham cc: Eduardo Morras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yb9Z3NR6z4MCD X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.76), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.38), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.es]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 09:16:19 -0000 Honestly since when having only 2 people meeting up for "Insert Your Preferred IT/Geek Activity here" was a problem? the smaller the crowd the more fun it is no? :) We should get hold of the robocall system governments use to spam the public of their junk ... I dont know ... Q: Would You be intterested to join a meeting (In Person or Via Videoconference) of BSD Users in Spain? A1: What is BSD? A2: Yes A3: Linux is Superior Because Yes I have some people over at sdf.org who are from Spain I ask them as well on the chat You never know who d turn up. Viktor On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Evilham wrote: > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:07:56 +0200 > From: Evilham > To: Eduardo Morras > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Question (fwd) > > On dj., abr. 09 2020, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 >> Evilham wrote: >> >>> >>> > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country > where >>> > I live-reside >>> > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good > opportunity >>> > to do so as >>> > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write >>> > English, Spanish , >>> > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with > those >>> > languages as >>> > well... >>> > >>> > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these >>> > things? >>> >>> >>> Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; >>> though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical >>> meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. >>> Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like >>> PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people who >>> might not be as well-versed in English. >>> Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, >>> just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. >>> >>> For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed >>> to do anything with it just yet. >>> I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an >>> abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them and >>> maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and revive >>> it :-) (that would be pretty cool). >> >> I want to be in that User Group project. I have contacted Manuel >> Trujillo, from Barcelona area, who is/was in es.freebsd staff, to know >> the es.freebd current status. >> >> In 2006 and 2008 we organized two BSDCon at Barcelona. Both, Viktor and >> you Andres, can count with me for this BUG project. > > Nice, I noticed that but somehow it feels as though the BSDs are not that > present around here. > > Keep us posted with news from this person :-). > > I was considering maybe even making a CFP (call for participation?!) online, > to get a feeling of who'd be able to attend such a thing, so that hopefully > the first time it is reasonable to have a physical meeting it's more than 2 > people :-p. > -- > Evilham > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 09:21:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9442B4553 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48ybHX4gp8z4MfQ for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 0399LEpr065747 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:21:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: What to do about LORs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <132d8827-706d-ee68-345b-b01ce902e31d@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:21:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ybHX4gp8z4MfQ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.70)[ip: (-8.24), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-4.12), asn: 30722(3.84), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 09:21:29 -0000 Hello. A 12.1/amd64 server of mine hanged several times in the last week: seen from the network it just stopped responding (not even to pings); turning the screen on it just stays black. I can switch VTs (I can confirm this thanks to the numlock/capslock lights), but nothing is displayed. Some disk activity is still happening (again thanks to HD light). Suspecting a VFS deadlock, I turned INVARIANTS/WITNESS/etc... on and I'm waiting for that to happen again. Meanwhile I'm seeing a couple of LORs while booting. What to do about this? A long time ago I used http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html: is that still active or rotting? Since I don't see what I'm experiencing there, is it worth reporting or is that a deprecated thing? Then I went to bugzilla: there are tons of reports, many looking like my case, but not exactly identical. Most of them just timed out: I understand that they might be relevanto only to a specific release or HEAD revision. Is it useful to make a report there? Or i anyone interested in seeing this in other ways? bye & Thanks av. 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SMk_sj5erpZkL0MfPqmGjMJ0- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:10:07 +0000 Received: by smtp432.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 345c399a783a456338a9c4183e5119bb; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 12:25:52 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: Evilham , viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) Message-Id: <20200409122552.9a050217747a725aef1c8a4c@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: References: <20200409105422.e4fbf2539ad52095c47b85c1@yahoo.es> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ycMj3tnmz4Q8M X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.615,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.es:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.50)[-0.498,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.es:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.es,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[96.178.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[96.178.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (5.47), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.16), asn: 34010(1.70), country: GB(-0.07)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 10:10:11 -0000 On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 11:07:56 +0200 Evilham wrote: > On dj., abr. 09 2020, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 > > Evilham wrote: > > > >> > >> > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country > >> > where > >> > I live-reside > >> > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good > >> > opportunity > >> > to do so as > >> > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write > >> > English, Spanish , > >> > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with > >> > those > >> > languages as > >> > well... > >> > > >> > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these > >> > things? > >> > >> > >> Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; > >> though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have > >> physical > >> meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. > >> Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit > >> like > >> PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people > >> who > >> might not be as well-versed in English. > >> Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, > >> just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. > >> > >> For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't > >> managed > >> to do anything with it just yet. > >> I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an > >> abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them > >> and > >> maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and > >> revive > >> it :-) (that would be pretty cool). > > > > I want to be in that User Group project. I have contacted Manuel > > Trujillo, from Barcelona area, who is/was in es.freebsd staff, > > to know > > the es.freebd current status. > > > > In 2006 and 2008 we organized two BSDCon at Barcelona. Both, > > Viktor and > > you Andres, can count with me for this BUG project. > > Nice, I noticed that but somehow it feels as though the BSDs are > not that present around here. > > Keep us posted with news from this person :-). He replayed me, and and the answer was "Where should I sign in?" He is from Barcelona area too and knows other people who may be interested. He offer a place to do talks etc in Barcelona area. > I was considering maybe even making a CFP (call for > participation?!) online, to get a feeling of who'd be able to > attend such a thing, so that hopefully the first time it is > reasonable to have a physical meeting it's more than 2 people :-p. Perhaps it's time to go offlist. > -- > Evilham --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 13:32:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73D12BA789 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yhs15G3cz4bpK for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 039DWIhB027385 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:32:19 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD Mips/Octeon Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yhs15G3cz4bpK X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.846,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.75), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.37), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 13:32:22 -0000 Hi i was looking at the page https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/mips/Octeon?action=show&redirect=FreeBSD%2Fmips%2FOcteon where amongst other things mentioned Ubiquity EdgeRouter Lite as compatible and also that Gigabit speeds on Basic Packet passing should be OK. I started to look at classifieds and I see some devices available for grabs. However I came across this article where the user explains one of the drawbacks being not being able to push more than 250Mbit per second between two Gigabit Hosts. However that article was not made on the latest available build as far as I see... http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ Question: Anyone has experience with Edgerouter Lite and FreeBSD and can comment on the real time performance achieved? Perhaps one of the other mentioned HW would be more suitable to go for ( even if it seems difficult to even find any.. Lanner , Portwell and Radisys devices ) Perhaps going the x86 route and pick up some appliance from Aliexpress which should work as a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD router/firewall and achieve Gigabit speed on ports while passing packets easily/easier? f.e : https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32860646292.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.1f2b5af1TD1IWP Regards Viktor viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 19:01:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C133D27B08B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x263.google.com (mail-oi1-x263.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::263]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yr8W3zFhz45Zp for ; 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However that article was not made on the > latest available build as far as I see... > > http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ > > Question: > > Anyone has experience with Edgerouter Lite and FreeBSD and can comment > on the real time performance achieved? > > Perhaps one of the other mentioned HW would be more suitable to go for > ( even if it seems difficult to even find any.. Lanner , Portwell and > Radisys devices ) > > Perhaps going the x86 route and pick up some appliance from Aliexpress > which should work as a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD router/firewall and > achieve Gigabit speed on ports while passing packets easily/easier? > > f.e : > https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32860646292.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.1f2b5af1TD1IWP > > Regards > > Viktor > > viktormadarasz@sdf.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I put OpenBSD on an EdgeRouter Lite and it didn't do so well. From what I understand, there are linux kernel modules needed to get speed out of the EdgeRouter Lite; In any case, I did not get a really good throughput.  I got an EdgeRouter 4 and things worked much better. -- Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 19:53:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63EF27CF2A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48ysJv1V4Zz4BVw for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from otaku.sdf.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@otaku.sdf.org [205.166.94.8]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 039JrWH7022356 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:53:33 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz To: Mark Moellering cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD Mips/Octeon In-Reply-To: <52c0e639-a8a5-8474-5810-8c95d3c1f3d0@psyberation.com> Message-ID: References: <52c0e639-a8a5-8474-5810-8c95d3c1f3d0@psyberation.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ysJv1V4Zz4BVw X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.17 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.75), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.37), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.860,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 19:53:36 -0000 Hi Mark You did better results with an Edgerouter 4 with its stock Ubiquity OS or putting OpenBSD on that one as well? Viktor On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Mark Moellering wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:01:04 -0400 > From: Mark Moellering > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD > Mips/Octeon > > > On 4/9/20 7:32 AM, Viktor Madarasz wrote: >> Hi >> >> i was looking at the page >> >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/mips/Octeon?action=show&redirect=FreeBSD%2Fmips%2FOcteon >> >> where amongst other things mentioned Ubiquity EdgeRouter Lite as compatible >> and also that Gigabit speeds on Basic Packet passing should be OK. >> >> I started to look at classifieds and I see some devices available for >> grabs. >> >> However I came across this article where the user explains one of the >> drawbacks being not being able to push more than 250Mbit per second between >> two Gigabit Hosts. However that article was not made on the latest >> available build as far as I see... >> >> http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ >> >> Question: >> >> Anyone has experience with Edgerouter Lite and FreeBSD and can comment on >> the real time performance achieved? >> >> Perhaps one of the other mentioned HW would be more suitable to go for ( >> even if it seems difficult to even find any.. Lanner , Portwell and Radisys >> devices ) >> >> Perhaps going the x86 route and pick up some appliance from Aliexpress >> which should work as a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD router/firewall and achieve >> Gigabit speed on ports while passing packets easily/easier? >> >> f.e : >> https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32860646292.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.1f2b5af1TD1IWP >> >> Regards >> >> Viktor >> >> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I put OpenBSD on an EdgeRouter Lite and it didn't do so well. From what I > understand, there are linux kernel modules needed to get speed out of the > EdgeRouter Lite; In any case, I did not get a really good throughput.? I got > an EdgeRouter 4 and things worked much better. > > -- Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 20:06:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4489127D4AA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x862.google.com (mail-qt1-x862.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::862]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48ysc12BvSz4CL2 for ; 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Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD Mips/Octeon To: Viktor Madarasz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52c0e639-a8a5-8474-5810-8c95d3c1f3d0@psyberation.com> From: Mark Moellering Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:06:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ysc12BvSz4CL2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=LnCNZVKh; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markmoellering@psyberation.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::862) smtp.mailfrom=markmoellering@psyberation.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; 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Mark > > > On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Mark Moellering wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:01:04 -0400 >> From: Mark Moellering >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest >> FreeBSD >>     Mips/Octeon >> >> >> On 4/9/20 7:32 AM, Viktor Madarasz wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> i was looking at the page >>> >>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/mips/Octeon?action=show&redirect=FreeBSD%2Fmips%2FOcteon >>> >>> where amongst other things mentioned Ubiquity EdgeRouter Lite as >>> compatible and also that Gigabit speeds on Basic Packet passing >>> should be OK. >>> >>> I started to look at classifieds and I see some devices available >>> for grabs. >>> >>> However I came across this article where the user explains one of >>> the drawbacks being not being able to push more than 250Mbit per >>> second between two Gigabit Hosts. However that article was not made >>> on the latest available build as far as I see... >>> >>> http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ >>> >>> Question: >>> >>> Anyone has experience with Edgerouter Lite and FreeBSD and can >>> comment on the real time performance achieved? >>> >>> Perhaps one of the other mentioned HW would be more suitable to go >>> for ( even if it seems difficult to even find any.. Lanner , >>> Portwell and Radisys devices ) >>> >>> Perhaps going the x86 route and pick up some appliance from >>> Aliexpress which should work as a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD >>> router/firewall and achieve Gigabit speed on ports while passing >>> packets easily/easier? >>> >>> f.e : >>> https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32860646292.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.1f2b5af1TD1IWP >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Viktor >>> >>> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >>> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> I put OpenBSD on an EdgeRouter Lite and it didn't do so well. From >> what I understand, there are linux kernel modules needed to get speed >> out of the EdgeRouter Lite; In any case, I did not get a really good >> throughput.? I got an EdgeRouter 4 and things worked much better. >> >> -- Mark >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > viktormadarasz@sdf.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 9 20:17:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE2C27D855 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48ysr01H5Zz4CpJ for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:viktormadarasz@sdf.lonestar.org [205.166.94.16]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 039KH2sX007130 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:17:02 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:17:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Viktor Madarasz X-X-Sender: viktormadarasz@sdf.lonestar.org To: Mark Moellering cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD Mips/Octeon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <52c0e639-a8a5-8474-5810-8c95d3c1f3d0@psyberation.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48ysr01H5Zz4CpJ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=viktormadarasz@SDF.ORG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.847,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.75), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.37), asn: 14361(-0.01), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[SDF.ORG]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.968,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:17:04 -0000 Hi Mark thanks i checked and good to see that ER-6P its bigger brother also supported too bad the price is significantly more expensive compared to the Edgerouter Lite Tough its still cheaper than picking up a router/firewall compatible appliance from Aliexpress with shipping Viktor On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Mark Moellering wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:06:39 -0400 > From: Mark Moellering > To: Viktor Madarasz > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD > Mips/Octeon > > > On 4/9/20 1:53 PM, Viktor Madarasz wrote: >> >> Hi Mark >> >> You did better results with an Edgerouter 4 with its stock Ubiquity OS or >> putting OpenBSD on that one as well? >> >> Viktor > > > Viktor, > > > I had better results when I put OpenBSD on it.? I use it as my current > firewall.? I don't have it hooked up to do a 'proper' speed test but I get > over 500M up and down from my ISP (I have fiber). > > > Mark > > > > > >> >> >> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Mark Moellering wrote: >> >>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:01:04 -0400 >>> From: Mark Moellering >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Performance of Routing on Edgerouter Lite with Latest FreeBSD >>> ??? Mips/Octeon >>> >>> >>> On 4/9/20 7:32 AM, Viktor Madarasz wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> i was looking at the page >>>> >>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/mips/Octeon?action=show&redirect=FreeBSD%2Fmips%2FOcteon >>>> where amongst other things mentioned Ubiquity EdgeRouter Lite as >>>> compatible and also that Gigabit speeds on Basic Packet passing should be >>>> OK. >>>> >>>> I started to look at classifieds and I see some devices available for >>>> grabs. >>>> >>>> However I came across this article where the user explains one of the >>>> drawbacks being not being able to push more than 250Mbit per second >>>> between two Gigabit Hosts. However that article was not made on the >>>> latest available build as far as I see... >>>> >>>> http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL/ >>>> >>>> Question: >>>> >>>> Anyone has experience with Edgerouter Lite and FreeBSD and can comment on >>>> the real time performance achieved? >>>> >>>> Perhaps one of the other mentioned HW would be more suitable to go for ( >>>> even if it seems difficult to even find any.. Lanner , Portwell and >>>> Radisys devices ) >>>> >>>> Perhaps going the x86 route and pick up some appliance from Aliexpress >>>> which should work as a FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD router/firewall and achieve >>>> Gigabit speed on ports while passing packets easily/easier? >>>> >>>> f.e : >>>> https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32860646292.html?spm=2114.12057483.0.0.1f2b5af1TD1IWP >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Viktor >>>> >>>> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >>>> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> I put OpenBSD on an EdgeRouter Lite and it didn't do so well. From what I >>> understand, there are linux kernel modules needed to get speed out of the >>> EdgeRouter Lite; In any case, I did not get a really good throughput.? I >>> got an EdgeRouter 4 and things worked much better. >>> >>> -- Mark >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> viktormadarasz@sdf.org >> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > viktormadarasz@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 00:38:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76FC2ABE9E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48yzdG3fQvz4WN1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 03A0c2Pq067032 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ssh key on 11.3 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48yzdG3fQvz4WN1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com designates 198.74.231.101 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.74.231.101]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:198.74.228.0/22, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.84)[ip: (-4.36), ipnet: 198.74.228.0/22(-2.18), asn: 11288(2.39), country: US(-0.05)]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 00:38:11 -0000 I updated a system from 11.1 --> 11.3. Perhaps the way I did it is an issue so: 1) when directly skipping 11.2. Every thing worked okay except less did not clear the screen. (I did not know that was "normal" for 11.3 2) updated to 11.2 and then 11.3. After getting the same result with less I tested less on an 11.3 workstation and laptop. I'm not sure how I missed this but I did. Any after the host was updated, I updated the base jail using the ezjail script and tested everything. The ssh key I have used for at least 3 years does not work on the host but does work on the jails. The key has a fingerprint of "2048 SHA256:.../home/doug/.ssh/id_rsa (RSA)" Permissions are fine, the keyy worked on 11.2. I did BTW RTFM and endless googling before coming here. Any thought greatly appreciated. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 03:19:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5B2AF6B1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) Received: from gwema04-mta.va.gov (gwemta2.va.gov [152.130.26.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx20.va.gov", Issuer "DigiCert Global CA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z3By3NTDz4g2n for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) X-SBRS: None X-MID: 1276827675 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=MMzSVyNG2n9UV1vSMeW3l+InqJMizvrfL6e/+vi7wN841zsZ+3ZU+qoRwAXFPcmzESJinHYApHR8PfZnf6XPPta/11/gBZxHngqH+iIdEXBe2E34LxTIM7RLt2DQChBkIp+oZW33UiMSxQ2f1DlWaH7kdOd9/tiyj83SIElrpNr0bYDz2vq9zzMX9N+T5n7nGkj72oBTjA5hY2mQjs8K0RQpTQ6GzbpxiWRdFoCTmSrZADfQ8H1l/5sCFmMgNlUc6u0WhDVe7T3xp4KlNP9DC2Xs+kVriBq3yJtCsNU40J4EJcKo3UQjdWoNKgzCAjFEOxJVlSmKwGzfVvcy9X5qEg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=h5HFE3ShwSXmscRmk0sTLVwKxHg+pOI0NWNyJGXL1LI=; b=iyYz9T+K6uYvGjCygKYgpeDN8BWtIAhzWKwzZNGbl7E4IzMxEuZblxIU5cYG5sve2WwCN7UXxjCVEl/wxqjwy7ljI8t177Tw7ZlUCc9iNp2+jdBwJtD2ZXCpyAw2XuPTv4C1cVjcivMmwb66bJ7MR5lQNkeUgJzM236yeaj3oIVg4B5M7EW0LWaYgcVSjQjeyldw4DeJBa6CfwljwIDC6A577E9dtw8h9bRW+2NVs5Gsz8PxFuSgwvfm0iLNSttlGEqwN7X68aDZz0usGkw1XobtRij5lt4KRNVWhSXKaDUNxU0DuexU03I3/NvcGhxl/ntSGPpdERCvmqqSwJwzTQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=va.gov; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=va.gov; dkim=pass header.d=va.gov; arc=none From: "Kudiwu, Grace S. (Prosphere)" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: FIPS 140-2 compliance Thread-Topic: FIPS 140-2 compliance Thread-Index: AdYO5ptno2aCr6/cRkCt/aBYQ/fAKA== Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:19:04 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [152.129.8.59] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 3d459cf4-9e0e-44db-ed5d-08d7dcfdec16 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM6PR09MB3387: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:1923; x-forefront-prvs: 0369E8196C x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:DM6PR09MB3066.namprd09.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFTY:; SFS:(10019020)(366004)(39860400002)(376002)(346002)(396003)(136003)(6916009)(2906002)(7696005)(26005)(52536014)(66446008)(186003)(6506007)(66476007)(478600001)(66556008)(66946007)(76116006)(5660300002)(81156014)(9686003)(33656002)(71200400001)(86362001)(55016002)(558084003)(316002)(8936002)(64756008)(8676002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 4Id5DW+CxEGgomikJ55muORzmCbN3dtdC+UAYZmFJ5Mt1WrowKl+Zzb0e3huAKlsYqE2A6bj4vQT/9EO1FRLtLpkRUp0nLlVEoPF2Krq9WztLFHdTja3CWJL8kQRrdLPQ0CH5YhQZ2n0gufPAuX8kUsqahY3C6vpLhogI+tA24mJ3a6bSPVqpHWIpS0QxpfHoJaxra7jtTUp8WyLvry+yIk24NsiegJ6BjUMaujycD15nRS2HGTP6FT7yE2cDMmVt8sQYNICTwhXKQstWSwQeIXHso3mRoS6A6hqIPXvPTtqzQv6ueIa1l1B3QR3Ye0WAzzt4AsWnO/bYM6FE0iRAWr7y1QUlrtSNtkvl7B96vWMzxoqZJoswZkPz43V1MXpX6UXUytRDmaRTeGuiQLELBSDwp66gKzbmNox+GzEOf3lb/eaGccXJKMoEt6FNJu/ x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: FMAAdtTCqi8RF8eyNiaJMfB/X1NIXWo1oZnzZpa4Rf+fC9nc+U5Oy5qoj1PoMNCz3UV8P6EEFA+8HHiArCc2bUnuM9sS4rpg08rIL9DZI+UYzC5t2ceqUp4QSnBTW+Y1OS95KGxj6NPnWAxFKJwWwQ== x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: va.gov X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3d459cf4-9e0e-44db-ed5d-08d7dcfdec16 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 10 Apr 2020 03:19:04.0777 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e95f1b23-abaf-45ee-821d-b7ab251ab3bf X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: HGxF8HZzbMO/LBwCIlFk6PvfTHA1P5U8iAmjYq9TlUHDH4D21tXh3pQiJB5is9DdhFDRiORyNpepfeojibt6vg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR09MB3387 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z3By3NTDz4g2n X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.49 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[DVAGOV.onmicrosoft.com:s=selector2-DVAGOV-onmicrosoft-com]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[46.26.130.152.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:152.130.26.32/27]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[va.gov:s=vasel5]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_MIXED(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[46.26.130.152.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.8.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[va.gov:-,DVAGOV.onmicrosoft.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[va.gov,reject]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-1.79)[ipnet: 152.130.0.0/16(-4.96), asn: 29992(-3.96), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29992, ipnet:152.130.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:19:07 -0000 Does FreeBSD leverage FIPS 140-2 cryptographic modules? If so, what are the= modules and their corresponding certificate numbers? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 03:28:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96B72AFA21 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z3PM6L8Qz4gbZ for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jMkLe-0002Yv-2z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 21:28:54 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:28:54 -0600 From: The Doctor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: packet fileters, virtual private networks and virtual servers Message-ID: <20200410032854.GA7778@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z3PM6L8Qz4gbZ X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.51 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.64)[0.640,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; URIBL_PBL(0.02)[empire.kred]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[nl2k.ab.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.01)[0.006,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6171, ipnet:204.209.81.0/24, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[ip: (-0.37), ipnet: 204.209.81.0/24(-0.18), asn: 6171(-0.15), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:28:09 -0000 All right, I got Open VPN to work, however they can only seee physical and not virtual machines on a bridge switch. What is needed to remedy this issue? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Those who cannot win on facts rely upon slander. -unknown From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 03:40:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001AA2B0083 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) Received: from gwwma03-mta.va.gov (gwwmta1.va.gov [152.131.26.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx20.va.gov", Issuer "DigiCert Global CA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z3h54jQpz4hGw for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) X-SBRS: None X-MID: 855764961 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=HbvUQWYdoG4hVTf1lVwY1GYbVGW3YDKkhKGtkVLyLvEyM7Y2pfBPEsor2cFN6ZbxVcMsMDYQ4VFkRuhofH+dQ4bgxv1A8zQ9GPQW/aiGF3yiJnyUBFKYq/tLKHASD/nqb7RRRjNDmcmSHY5ezTB0hXFXYzOMaKV+xxl7tH2+s9Zu0kvTqFYcqmidFRIza5lMR+HGljWhgHNV4GWLwPTm2A8y2FCiRlg1Y23931y2eCcnrYMpWYCu78J7rwrwYXAtR0GZlv+/Xnpzf/4OlbjjYidRZ5eL64qrt8ivm+EqIZ7WbnVeCLC+Yn7P0JeqAAbeqsxgRpVlB5vPAweypMeguQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=ot/QEwqMY0AsPrWBHILxnx/6bgvoBCsD76JjFJ66FiA=; b=jC5cbQyjssB92Sh9QjRfbBDtpx/ojKhOX40u5OaW6f3QJx+hzLEhKqP7+tPIwmn1hgruw5NH+VTRvnva7gwMC1PQz01q1cZ0eZbSlcdh8zqXB5WTaYMOaWZmHHE57AttN09RaARN62pJS6lb2FfdC0k3Hadb3mjZJsWa2owm0PSxp8uKfw6tig9CKnR0fEbwJ1ypdu/Liasft1m+SPMj2xnaZzGNYeV4OuySyG0CyrMhL7ItYd6pndZ6iuXlFuRDO8Sk2Dlxc0xZlSWSfQHX/tdkxQq0fYvrOKOZ88QcOAJCgEaizX5iDSmDzKWU6DgcVPJFGD7nGjyD1k8cLMtH1Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=va.gov; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=va.gov; dkim=pass header.d=va.gov; arc=none From: "Kudiwu, Grace S. (Prosphere)" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Encryption at rest/in transit Thread-Topic: Encryption at rest/in transit Thread-Index: AdYO6b1hCtwsf7yLRD6V7RZqM2IpvA== Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [152.129.8.59] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 32925475-d0a2-493d-ff09-08d7dd00f65d x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DM6PR09MB3626: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:3513; x-forefront-prvs: 0369E8196C x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:DM6PR09MB3066.namprd09.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFTY:; SFS:(10019020)(376002)(39860400002)(396003)(346002)(136003)(366004)(52536014)(66476007)(64756008)(26005)(33656002)(71200400001)(6916009)(66446008)(66556008)(4270600006)(66946007)(186003)(478600001)(76116006)(9686003)(55016002)(8676002)(2906002)(5660300002)(316002)(86362001)(6506007)(81156014)(8936002)(7696005)(3480700007)(558084003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 0paFq7l3bovL42b7l+Ljd+mWafbF5KBJqNHHMKk6NG0gPVHbOv7Oh7odlIzEbrLWXFWpeefepI5lj1qoJxg5iT2wWHvrJAif+VYRcv0UpMCWArSBVHDfUp3qdQfMRgMfF4OUVMA2vcPAe1mQT/LPFEW1Fz0sgnprM00fAF3TEyAuqOXhJxDnIJwyk+ti++64DNgR/fCJ8huOgXGRrWHL4D/xXYiGYGU6HMPTk0VNUi5KEcJ2qXhZpVZ7MslXpA0JtAfswh5XleE3ZzPKPNyxcw8Vim7kgtcxFSat8IOT9BhDIHu7pyer56hzqBM96wfJexTpVsSwEIdUi/fLEmqx+wUPOVtu8edNWVSK75FEM6Q8USZJiMPDT3PP9ENYWOA6JgC753dB8oluLTCAwhniROUhuSeXf54YGicsza4UKRtmIJOXYm0ysZ5YLAevxKda x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: 0CX3iRU7EZoyXZ/ooZJspJepp8Y7By21cO8Ec45IB4H6Iv4afoecqJA9nUAinhNvAI/kFK8EKY2bDeD6vee6qVR4izxLQRJG38v7ifAri6bZj/GjWJIYgMLzCpdgyQWQ4JqylM14afPbXZGwqMkI/A== x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: va.gov X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 32925475-d0a2-493d-ff09-08d7dd00f65d X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 10 Apr 2020 03:40:49.8648 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e95f1b23-abaf-45ee-821d-b7ab251ab3bf X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: E6i8fBM8mjtcsHN4LH6BTRVqySWSkvMD01Oev4ECQfj4wr7wTMfpYDLsb+omolsSwGNqRWi+EWJQEKvi85D37w== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR09MB3626 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z3h54jQpz4hGw X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.49 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[DVAGOV.onmicrosoft.com:s=selector2-DVAGOV-onmicrosoft-com]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[45.26.131.152.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[va.gov:s=vasel5]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:152.131.26.32/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_MIXED(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[va.gov:-,DVAGOV.onmicrosoft.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[45.26.131.152.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.8.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[va.gov,reject]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-1.79)[ipnet: 152.131.0.0/16(-4.95), asn: 29992(-3.96), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29992, ipnet:152.131.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[i=1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:40:55 -0000 How does FreeBSD handle encryption of data at rest and data in transit? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 03:42:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7232B0351 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) Received: from gwsma04-mta.va.gov (gwsmta2.va.gov [152.132.26.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx20.va.gov", Issuer "DigiCert Global CA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z3kB4vKwz4hcL for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov) X-SBRS: None X-MID: 1153150436 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=fWKQjIO8+OMkm06fLOlbCGbxX6+8uTn83cisYF/k6Zix+jP7t9LC+zpj/5ATJy0DBsxc+F/rgHYoN74NBewyUL9hJndO0KprJLSAlDXV40SUn7wPKD8HAUU/t1o3I8cFC5C7ASXsKWdWG8djBqOfvbq21dOmOkNj+nHUutgKfQnyBKXYP9bvuQTy7lHOB9OFUsHX3tIoi7K1beeTte3vzoJIID0vBzHGm+tIEU2Fi7PnKaGT4yMRr8pE5ZyiOYPB6r8TGAhOrcdNwFYvWnkKTZPYYcOVItzlbeU3TVxTxenVXFZKhWFvVLx54mlxYfkEYkwsenA86LErmladfYZ3Ow== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=MVeKu25VRtbE5EmZG50csYIrBxdGPQgDU8C9ukF6EcA=; b=NXT9shU9ad/c0coW80dEqR/Wvg+QpYCCzca0JveqGnVOW7YOfijZtIKe96ZhYJMdiLKjwucZJwShUVOPHBB7E4WDlDzlvoAf4oHLWUVXMp+QJ4tGuMQIflYcZJM5cynTxrtBVQFTOvMBs5ZGNCMYdYPrUTbQOm9KqcwppKgOAkoyE4LrLppJM5T6MS5uvwUoCR12qfHp7YAsg1HQLHObG1oa+RP/f4jFViBWnTsUO7mpfYg1K/SVUflRp1RClgSPXozXLjXenpSTs6AikIdQymjCab1ECDlXN+M09zQ1VIfzGGEPJFFfOnyKBggqUqaeA5R0s2dcKOySaIuv12VPxQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=va.gov; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=va.gov; dkim=pass header.d=va.gov; arc=none From: "Kudiwu, Grace S. 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What is the difference between relea= se 12.1 and 11.3? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 03:57:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16202B0803 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd34.google.com (mail-io1-xd34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z43X5hDTz4jPN for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd34.google.com with SMTP id o127so649689iof.0 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UM+BoUDFUJkYrcdMBddGneqxzb2IOHt3ov/FnsXHeEY=; b=QvQ7zvFIwgKvZQnqU5paHGc8T53zgbrD3ojM6ZCRE3P57fNvOaIohDx94wfQOpoh/Y t5UMdufE9amD5ijwHDLUmKv+4JXcprT3gUkeHSiBx3JfDDhRVGL9BCuvldCreAKDSqV5 GnHyHw2cTbRI06OxQo0xFuvJISjRRgAioX0Jl5kEbFICDmft0v32db2QuTs6dZUto4df m/5i8q5kLJfdUQW0HhYfBaiuvwvkfkQf75hQsN46muzobEX69OnBtogz5GCUHu/rTmcn UTbx3cBFCEGm1q/MgG4Z9tJS343UyHQEWKWtjKL8IS/q2CjJvrVvY0SL5byRoP/bPJ55 +6xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UM+BoUDFUJkYrcdMBddGneqxzb2IOHt3ov/FnsXHeEY=; b=ZEBA2X4zRv9l1o0JVHpuoL6PISrcSuCULwlICeQ6Pa9KTdLmXIgEyM55aCtrE7GqR8 s6yrJmIkfolmEdh33sQCUutmpwn2EDEMgBdicelGzJUThUTIYXeTL0lU13LpifB6/0Np fGd0OvDga2K6zAnNtZEMQhsuQ0R0BZd/d5JB7w6ofr9SYr17Ql8HZG2KhwrUl1+R4iYN gqVIyGmpXbXXGzQ3sLYOdAXUOwRt+84oLN/F0SIsgUmcuH7+YWEage+CJSXf2byEkq+/ SihghI+VaXbJsz4Mak5p5K/0j0lBPmC0pf/cwy1IT977GVDPicWgz0E9HHBvrW3FAOyY iPCg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZEOPwMtSaaejYt0w+lB9XWmHJzli6oZEKObC4bcaPUDm6fJ6l9 AcWxLrFkfPd9FHYxNXjFlfrsoX79Y5VlfTiyi+U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJegDD+KmcpfaX75IoYHKnlN9AGaoihblrxMmLGURMcG3H8NTpf5QTlChCpcvy4i8beHpVR7aWRAExhi2oQnz0= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:91ca:: with SMTP id k10mr2587247ior.36.1586491063638; Thu, 09 Apr 2020 20:57:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 23:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Encryption at rest/in transit To: "Kudiwu, Grace S. (Prosphere)" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z43X5hDTz4jPN X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=QvQ7zvFI; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.29), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:57:45 -0000 On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:41 PM Kudiwu, Grace S. (Prosphere) via freebsd-questions wrote: > How does FreeBSD handle encryption of data at rest and data in transit? > Speaking as some who builds HIPAA complaint (requires end-to-end encryption by law) software on FreeBSD I will say the following in regards to your question: 1. Encryption is not, per se, an OS issue for the most part it is how you make your application and the transport mechanisms you use. For example if you are not using TLS/SSL then no matter how the OS stores data the transport is not encrypted and no feature of the OS can change that fact. Conversely if you using TLS/SSL then the transport is encrypted regardless of the OS 2. FreeBSD does support encrypted drives but this should *NOT* be considered encrypt at rest because it only protects the data from physical theft and reading on a different system then it was created on (and depending on configuration makes it so you must know a password to successfully boot the machine [not a good idea for data center based servers]). 3. Due to item three you should use application level encryption on storage. Very few applications truly support this for example no widely DB that I know of supports record/table level encryption. Field encryption is not the same since it allows someone to see the scheme and the first rule of good security is give the attacker as little information as possible. -- Aryeh M. 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(Prosphere) via freebsd-questions wrote: > Does FreeBSD leverage FIPS 140-2 cryptographic modules? If so, what are > the modules and their corresponding certificate numbers? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. 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(Prosphere)" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z47M5glcz4jhx X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=HCH/RhZU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 04:01:04 -0000 What specific feature sets do you want to know about. As with any OS there are many features unique to FreeBSD but without knowing your application it is impossible to answer. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:42 PM Kudiwu, Grace S. (Prosphere) via freebsd-questions wrote: > What are the main features of FreeBSD? What is the difference between > release 12.1 and 11.3? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 06:56:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B77D2B4802 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z81v0mbyz4tFF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A31112503 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:56:28 +0700 (+07) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :subject:subject:from:from:received:received:received; s= selector1; t=1586501788; x=1588316189; bh=53uv5OA5AMLiCS0A677hRR 4JnNYab4+AVME5Umno5ZQ=; b=dLXXVp4Tap0hnt8N3w2vSborF3hxOkD6iL4jSd SQn2Ly8Cn6zgv4XuFsoXzHKdxGvl+jGZtZzRWgsTQpqew0DQLFl3PZvxo20EFf30 ol9A6a154QjVwjNdfwN/Y/dGqBO7AIoizb4fm8i0AQRHgbOhHvVqeB4iwKVKjks5 WiwPQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id M4CYluVGmBqI for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:56:28 +0700 (+07) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35E44112502 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:56:28 +0700 (+07) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03A6uRbV031210; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:56:27 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Glusterfs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:56:27 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z81v0mbyz4tFF X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cs.ait.ac.th header.s=selector1 header.b=dLXXVp4T; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=cs.ait.ac.th; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th designates 192.41.170.16 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cs.ait.ac.th:s=selector1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[16.170.41.192.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cs.ait.ac.th:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[cs.ait.ac.th,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4767, ipnet:192.41.170.0/24, country:TH]; IP_SCORE(-3.38)[ip: (-8.95), ipnet: 192.41.170.0/24(-4.47), asn: 4767(-3.58), country: TH(0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:56:38 -0000 Hi, Has anyone used Glusterfs successfully on FreeBSD. The client in the ports is overdated and I could not succeed to compile the new client. TIA Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 09:30:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13332B8356 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zCRv6bt5z3JnC for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 03A9UfXa070553 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:30:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Restoring and snapshots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:30:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zCRv6bt5z3JnC X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.51 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.71)[ip: (-8.27), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-4.14), asn: 30722(3.84), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:30:52 -0000 Hello. When I'm doing backups/dumps of ZFS filesystems (with whatever tool), I use snapshots. So, suppose I have the following datasets: /etc /usr /usr/local /var I'll snapshot them and back up /etc/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ /usr/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ /usr/local/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ /var/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ Then I'll get the same directory structure when restoring. Any idea how to easily remove the .zfs/snap and go back to the original tree? I tried writing a few lines of script, but I found out that's not so easy (due to directories which must overlap, spaces in file names, etc...). Any hint? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 10:17:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199D32B92CD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zDTk6dZ3z3MDB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 03AAHPiw075976 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: Restoring and snapshots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> <20200410094721.GK39773@mithril.foucry.net> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <8d45d112-d2b3-1cb4-dd1b-f8b1917b445c@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:17:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200410094721.GK39773@mithril.foucry.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zDTk6dZ3z3MDB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.72)[ip: (-8.30), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-4.15), asn: 30722(3.84), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:17:32 -0000 On 2020-04-10 11:47, Jacques Foucry wrote: > Well, may be I wrong, but I think you're going on the wrong way. > > > For me, the simplest way is to use snasphot as source of backup with something > very simple > > > zfs snapshot -r zroot/etc@now > zfs send -R zroot/etc/@now > /usㄦ/sbin/xz > user@host:etc-snap@$(date > +"%F-%T").xz That's one way of doing thing and that's (more or less) what I'm doing when I need to save a whole filessytem. However, this is not always the way to go: sometimes I only need to copy some files or integrate this with some other tool (e.g. Bacula). bye & thanks av. 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Perhaps scheduling this action _after_ reboot would be the solution? 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm1450792qki.110.2020.04.10.05.39.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 05:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48zHd31fQ2z6B5h for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:38:54 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table Message-ID: <20200410083854.0000516d@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/682.zK2ad6TRL1P_.gKHmz+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zHd711Wnz40yd X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=d422fZAk; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::829 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.01)[ip: (-9.27), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:39:08 -0000 --Sig_/682.zK2ad6TRL1P_.gKHmz+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:51:51 +0200, Jos Chrispijn commented: >I have added a line to my crontab that defines running a script on >reboot: > >@reboot bash /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & > >This (bash) .sh script should add an updated ipfw table (preventing I=20 >have to run his action manually) but unfortunately no script is >executed on reboot. > >- script is executable >- no action is mentioned in /var/log/cron > >Can you tell me what I do wrong here? Perhaps scheduling this action=20 >_after_ reboot would be the solution? I run several programs upon reboot also. However, I never use "bash" as part of the command. Assuming you have the correct "shebang" in th script, you could just use @reboot /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & However, I am not sure you need the "&". All cron jobs are run in the background. You might check out this URL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto I would make sure you have the right 'shebang' in the script then remove both 'bash' and the '&' from the command line and see what transpires. You could also experiment with adding "&> /dev/null" sans the quotation marks to the end of the command. By the way, you did make sure that the script is executable, I assume. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/682.zK2ad6TRL1P_.gKHmz+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl6QaN4ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQC0AgAuC6Kds24LbUUAKcMCb9JsXWzHnsiehVS2f+1mhy2s3xZZ2o7I18/3bw7 SqrOMGel369dwGuTekPPpWzFRsOcxYxiPx1rFsTmXYeNoBuHRcfUFkVTCLmjkK3O DoTLME0V6rxzr2BMFjii7P+K2vbJp4ozo9NTGf5fqlI5qmLJz0ipyEX8AN6CvkvN yaPWrEdJwiyU03RXqzTNszUs7fXiYYPXM6i/P0jo5tKQfHRgRVnZhqUTBVRIm46a wU/fmBpaQL7MhwOqkM92dJ51BaFUHjP9TPYKvTZKXFIQoc2a2VHuncDDba/6J9m8 Zz+zPqiIKtfx1g146wu4lTrL0D9Iqw== =dP2R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/682.zK2ad6TRL1P_.gKHmz+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 12:47:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B59E2BD322 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zHpT2nFHz41Sr for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMt3u-0004fx-MK; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:47:10 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=smtp.boosten.org) by smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jMt3u-0002CH-Er; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:47:10 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A6DDB122; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:47:09 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table From: freebsd@boosten.org In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:47:08 +0200 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Jos Chrispijn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Aqh1IN1P c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cl8xLZFz6L8A:10 a=nBFE3s4nt9KoDKpKRNIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=adS0bDr6TzgA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zHpT2nFHz41Sr X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.42 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=myselector]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.82)[ip: (-7.81), ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-4.01), asn: 33915(-2.32), country: NL(0.03)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[168.42.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:47:14 -0000 > Op 10 apr. 2020, om 13:51 heeft Jos Chrispijn = het volgende geschreven: >=20 > I have added a line to my crontab that defines running a script on = reboot: >=20 > @reboot bash /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & >=20 Did you modify the PATH in crontab to also look in /usr/local/bin? Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 13:49:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91252BE732 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (fournil.foucry.net [95.217.83.231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zKBW6cZSz44Dk for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB3E712AEF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:49:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=foucry.net; s=dkim; t=1586526570; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=+8iDOHyy97DeTgNrvPaENcNtfOd+G/WdheXuTheaD/s=; b=nKFb7hQzmxaSfaPhgcJzS5qO/zn3kHKAYdEmtVPO5DsfxOtkxF94PbU5jnRhnd+KukXd56 rv49h1Qyon9Fp58Y49X79HmA0As0N/K+fYvYY4WLm4LZJQA3yTzH8QLllEyoybhS621K4u 2GvT0Gyfa6Vzg5VomlSdRQQrc1Q5a/M= Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1422C400B5 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:49:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:49:27 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Annoying kernel log Message-ID: <20200410134927.GB17781@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.10 X-Rspamd-Server: mail.foucry.net X-Spam-Score: -0.10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zKBW6cZSz44Dk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=foucry.net header.s=dkim header.b=nKFb7hQz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=foucry.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net designates 95.217.83.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[foucry.net:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[foucry.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[foucry.net,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.50)[ip: (-9.90), ipnet: 95.217.0.0/16(4.01), asn: 24940(-1.58), country: DE(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:95.217.0.0/16, country:DE]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:49:40 -0000 Hello friends, Everry day I receive from all my host (bare metal or jail) a security report (I think exctally as you). There is a lot of annoyoing and not really comprehensive lines on it: +DSACK update: -600517521..-600517481, rcv_nxt: 3694449815 I found a very small thread in forum talking about this issue: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mongodb-unifi-dsack-update-245946829-245946682-rcv_nxt-4049020614-spam.73808/ Is there a way to stop that output (other than correct source file and recmpile the kernel)? Thanks in adance for your advice, Take care. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 17:34:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62502C3874 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zQBQ48CNz4KmN for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 87872 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2020 17:34:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=1573e.5e90ae37.k2004; bh=ujUVUfCRC354wg0gYHQAUh4zJuqW9T9+VKWoYMfZKFQ=; b=mFv7ukRwYLayuAH2iemzzrF69fH9l2Dl18/CGl4p99iWEbiClMttJ3yT2woTCXWbIS4oQFUCQsmEn/b71FENBAqcj0Sw4lMdSBxds2pLHutlKMALE79xRV1f428IUmigAxgoHRneSik/GITmvnqyjbD9M7LmvrmVaKp3dimyIeLVQ/bx9ZKbP03Exdp4XKTGKEoXIeL+oNy0NiRnNgsL2dnulrZMFC7HtQ7tjq5dEgjBwu1P5VhL3H9w0PVd6ICn Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 10 Apr 2020 17:34:47 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5E8C1176A651; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: 10 Apr 2020 13:34:47 -0400 Message-Id: <20200410173447.5E8C1176A651@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Grace.Kudiwu@va.gov Subject: Re: FreeBSD main features In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zQBQ48CNz4KmN X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=1573e.5e90ae37.k2004 header.b=mFv7ukRw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[iecc.com:s=1573e.5e90ae37.k2004]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[iecc.com,none]; URIBL_PBL(0.01)[jl.ly]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.90), ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.65), asn: 6939(-3.60), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:34:55 -0000 In article you write: >What are the main features of FreeBSD? What is the difference between release 12.1 and 11.3? The FreeBSD handbook is a good place to start: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 17:40:57 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AD92C3CFF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zQKN4L0Xz4LDb for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C0586C8; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:40:53 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586540454; bh=Bys9l4HtRlxxGwONTYtwvW9BYDpWNI5C7F+GJzIh8R4=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=0aDw6eBOXTkDiv+1o3ruqyk6zhQ4bpX11w7Pz0FhW6lTQA+eIHqDVHMXO4Ay5Jn7I Yerh7zQKu6XN41uavnNAHlzFl4p2iwd67oZd8XlVjGb6/8J+W2C1QvqgrGTE8py4Ai GWovBxDi4uuvRwkGvMvi8tLXJhycpkVyV5X2OVNk= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 723FD86C7; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:40:53 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586540453; bh=Bys9l4HtRlxxGwONTYtwvW9BYDpWNI5C7F+GJzIh8R4=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FT//xBzT2eVSt/ItmL79eIMzvca4F3yvZ7pgqW6DeyG7oIn2RGtergmwLmakayjQO y9z3JfvrRqL7b0UDcd9sTwGyLSOyV5VLgKlCJmgV3j0EkGjVaE7Vq1fjW23y0GPRsd gSurDZjGtXY7fuGVv40SGXxAPGV2VvvFrQ2GVN7M= Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table To: freebsd@boosten.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! 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Yes, amongst other I use PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin Is it known when this @reboot script will run? I assume it will _after_ standard initialisation (system ready) has been done. Thanks, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 17:46:34 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14282C3F77 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zQRt3zYGz4Llh for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1486D2; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:46:32 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586540792; bh=D2aIOmI/TxKrKWsibzrSe7ph1smAolIZaoM5O4JPtPU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=s0n/asOGKZbAKHO358A78f1FQPmad6OZMnHfkV04gQbKVYz2cJl4H6uxPSprjupQu aLxz/K+kgjPEsFuRAixNZQMbAZf4pL5Ck4XM+JgV5iqRuDEXPjZIzpWGGJx0q6ZstG +uifId3Zo5BvQSIac0Z/cik284/ELQ9acdWsUuVM= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C462086D1; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:46:31 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586540791; bh=D2aIOmI/TxKrKWsibzrSe7ph1smAolIZaoM5O4JPtPU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KOhWAcmFfWiJaGzTOy1Zypzw4QvMmXQ2ysm79Wt3JjkqnC3DK6YxlfQq7vm8RXSA6 fWRC6V0WsrTABrQkhqPbImU+PCDL8mPnV9+9TLmc+zWSW/Eg8hMnYCbcseMBbT6Dl2 Cclgg9YsSYtNG4VMrNqJJuh7pogpxrsGNWihf4hc= Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jerry References: <20200410083854.0000516d@seibercom.net> From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! Message-ID: <4c9fa960-f367-9beb-4c00-810b34e3e672@cloudzeeland.nl> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:46:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200410083854.0000516d@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zQRt3zYGz4Llh X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:46:34 -0000 On 10-4-20 14:38, Jerry wrote: > I run several programs upon reboot also. However, I never use "bash" as > part of the command. I currently use #!/bin/bash > > Assuming you have the correct "shebang" in th script, you could just use > > @reboot /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & > Unfortunately, removing the & doesn't result in the solution. Will check the link you provided again; might oversee the issue by using a typo somewhere. 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[79.66.147.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x8sm4175803wrn.27.2020.04.10.11.01.45 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:01:45 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Perrin Subject: Can't remove files from a directory that was partially used by a jail Message-ID: <22daa8dc-cb20-6b08-b85f-161e6aca06ec@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:01:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zQnS6Sb4z4Mkf X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ka/nYAon; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[78.147.66.79.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.08), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:01:49 -0000 Below, I can't remove files to make way for (re)creation of a jail. Any suggestions? If it helps: at some point a few hours ago I might have accidentally begun (then cancelled) a bulk operation whilst using a different boot environment; the build began with a warning about the jail being newer than the host. root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -c -j head -v head -a amd64 -m src=/usr/src [00:00:00] Error: Directory /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head already exists root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -l JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm -rf /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin/init: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var/empty: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib: Directory not empty rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head: Directory not empty root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 override r-xr-xr-x root/wheel schg for /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1? y rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not permitted root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list NAME                                           USED  AVAIL  REFER MOUNTPOINT copperbowl                                     312G   122G    88K /copperbowl copperbowl/ROOT                               94.8G   122G    88K none copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                       314M   122G  59.3G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r357746g                      1.22M   122G  59.8G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r357746h                      1.37M   122G  60.0G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r359628c                      19.1G   122G  60.9G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r359750a                      1.37M   122G  61.4G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r359750b                      75.0G   122G  60.7G  / copperbowl/ROOT/r359750c                       392M   122G  62.7G  / copperbowl/iocage                             4.35G   122G  3.68M /copperbowl/iocage copperbowl/iocage/download                     359M   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/download copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE        359M   122G   359M /copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE copperbowl/iocage/images                        88K   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/images copperbowl/iocage/jails                       2.75G   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/jails copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers             2.75G   122G    92K /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root        2.75G   122G  3.99G /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root copperbowl/iocage/log                          100K   122G   100K /copperbowl/iocage/log copperbowl/iocage/releases                    1.24G   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/releases copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE       1.24G   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root  1.24G   122G  1.24G /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root copperbowl/iocage/templates                     88K   122G    88K /copperbowl/iocage/templates copperbowl/poudriere                          29.6G   122G    88K /copperbowl/poudriere copperbowl/poudriere/data                     1.92G   122G    96K /usr/local/poudriere/data copperbowl/poudriere/data/.m                    88K   122G    88K /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m copperbowl/poudriere/data/cache                 88K   122G    88K /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache copperbowl/poudriere/data/logs                1.48G   122G  1.48G /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs copperbowl/poudriere/data/packages             446M   122G   446M /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages copperbowl/poudriere/data/wrkdirs               88K   122G    88K /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs copperbowl/poudriere/jails                      88K   122G    88K /copperbowl/poudriere/jails copperbowl/poudriere/ports                    27.7G   122G    88K /copperbowl/poudriere/ports copperbowl/poudriere/ports/default            27.7G   122G  27.7G /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default copperbowl/tmp                                 456K   122G   456K /tmp copperbowl/usr                                 179G   122G    88K /usr copperbowl/usr/home                            175G   122G   159G /usr/home copperbowl/usr/ports                          1.90G   122G  1.90G /usr/ports copperbowl/usr/src                            2.09G   122G  2.09G /usr/src copperbowl/var                                4.65G   122G    88K /var copperbowl/var/audit                            88K   122G    88K /var/audit copperbowl/var/crash                          1.27M   122G  1.27M /var/crash copperbowl/var/log                            14.5M   122G  14.5M /var/log copperbowl/var/mail                            128K   122G   128K /var/mail copperbowl/var/tmp                            4.64G   122G  4.64G /var/tmp root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # 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However, I never use "bash" >> as part of the command. =20 > >I currently use #!/bin/bash >>=20 >> Assuming you have the correct "shebang" in th script, you could just >> use >>=20 >> @reboot /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & >> =20 > >Unfortunately, removing the & doesn't result in the solution. >Will check the link you provided again; might oversee the issue by >using a typo somewhere. Have you tried running "which bash" to see where 'bash' is actually located? On FreeBSD, it is usually "/usr/local/bin/bash". 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NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:14:21 -0000 Hi, just wondering, did you symlink bash in /bin? Or did you manually put it there? In FreeBSD it is /bin/sh or /use/local/bin/bash (and bash needs to be installed from ports). The & at the end of that cronjob should make no difference, in this case at least. Hope this helps. All the best. On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, 18:46 Jos Chrispijn, wrote: > On 10-4-20 14:38, Jerry wrote: > > > I run several programs upon reboot also. However, I never use "bash" as > > part of the command. > > I currently use #!/bin/bash > > > > Assuming you have the correct "shebang" in th script, you could just use > > > > @reboot /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & > > > > Unfortunately, removing the & doesn't result in the solution. > Will check the link you provided again; might oversee the issue by using > a typo somewhere. > > Thanks, Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 18:23:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CA32C5319 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zRGz0SqMz4PJQ for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id j2so3166386wrs.9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MO8SwmHl1nsZY34E4vhHTUxEbjTVM/G8HXpxmuUAR5M=; b=Qp0E4Bmj8lyqMXpvVlcmwRF9lqZFbvSQKY1aJCx1As6g+vaKCKrJwKgAyJQpJcR0SI eGYoUI7YHFU7XwdFUuPxoKku1H2nRXIf+Mje7XPXXVLh0Wi6SL1bvH0VZ6pxB6fbvbhx xMLK/qx2SSmh/6kvcBke4aFtT19gGHwsjXD8yc/PFFWOvW3uuuvGm8GAKO0qpe601PBK lwl6NMR6OsamaS2lXVE09zEys1vz6+MI6IeWvzqfiKUAETlfcDEizZqgpj2YPuAKojFV NPeEgZyrNWNFAkV2vW5gMequmoPSn1HG3c96TCO7DlkraeO68ewMh3Cd8LqtSws3lf75 vd6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Puaj1J+Vr4Dof67fAPIr5DUuTyAihMd+sulQag9Oqo2kDfabNqzh 8TuUbYmrDJGW5BPudYyDqN1iCc3Y X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIYpGkF73XRYT/I8ykecGH+tQmhnCXCMGx3SiTMckVsC0xJQ1U2SnKLWEOowN2G6BfvfCXmEw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:fc4c:: with SMTP id e12mr5722060wrs.265.1586543033213; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.221.67.77]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm3771318wmc.18.2020.04.10.11.23.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:23:49 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table Message-ID: <20200410192349.2b665202@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4b352e52-44c9-8f05-5860-79f21580dbf8@cloudzeeland.nl> References: <4b352e52-44c9-8f05-5860-79f21580dbf8@cloudzeeland.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zRGz0SqMz4PJQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[77.67.221.2.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.31), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:23:56 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:40:53 +0200 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Is it known when this @reboot script will run? I assume it will > _after_ standard initialisation (system ready) has been done. It's after ipfw, but before ipfw_netflow. ... /etc/rc.d/cron /etc/rc.d/jail /etc/rc.d/localpkg /etc/rc.d/securelevel /etc/rc.d/power_profile /etc/rc.d/othermta /etc/rc.d/nfscbd /etc/rc.d/natd /etc/rc.d/msgs /etc/rc.d/moused /etc/rc.d/mixer /etc/rc.d/kpasswdd /etc/rc.d/kfd /etc/rc.d/kadmind /etc/rc.d/ipropd_slave /etc/rc.d/ipropd_master /etc/rc.d/ipfw_netflow /etc/rc.d/inetd /etc/rc.d/hostapd /etc/rc.d/gptboot /etc/rc.d/geli2 /etc/rc.d/ftpd /etc/rc.d/ftp-proxy /etc/rc.d/dhclient /etc/rc.d/devmatch /etc/rc.d/cfumass /etc/rc.d/bsnmpd /etc/rc.d/bluetooth /etc/rc.d/blacklistd /etc/rc.d/bgfsck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 19:25:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093402C6916 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48zSfL1JLJz4SBf for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9B733C06; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 106A614F8BAF; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jos Chrispijn Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:25:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jos Chrispijn's message of "Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:51:51 +0200") Message-ID: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zSfL1JLJz4SBf X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.45)[-0.454,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.13)[-0.133,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ip: (0.15), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(1.21), asn: 7922(-0.64), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:25:47 -0000 Jos Chrispijn writes: > I have added a line to my crontab that defines running a script on reboot: > > @reboot bash /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & > > This (bash) .sh script should add an updated ipfw table (preventing I > have to run his action manually) but unfortunately no script is > executed on reboot. > > - script is executable > - no action is mentioned in /var/log/cron > > Can you tell me what I do wrong here? Perhaps scheduling this action > _after_ reboot would be the solution? Is there any reason that you can't use the system's standard ipfw script for that? 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.84), ipnet: 66.111.4.0/24(-4.89), asn: 11403(-2.69), country: US(-0.05)]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[28.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.956,0]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:48:13 -0000 Graham Perrin wrote: > Below, I can't remove files to make way for (re)creation of a jail. > > Any suggestions? Tried chflags(8)? > If it helps: at some point a few hours ago I might have accidentally > begun (then cancelled) a bulk operation whilst using a different boot > environment; the build began with a warning about the jail being newer > than the host. > > > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -c -j head -v head -a amd64 > -m src=/usr/src > [00:00:00] Error: Directory /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head already exists > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -l > JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm -rf /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin/init: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var/empty: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Operation > not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head: Directory not empty > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 > override r-xr-xr-x root/wheel schg for > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1? y > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not > permitted > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list > NAME                                           USED  AVAIL  REFER > MOUNTPOINT > copperbowl                                     312G   122G    88K > /copperbowl > copperbowl/ROOT                               94.8G   122G    88K none > copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                       314M   122G  59.3G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r357746g                      1.22M   122G  59.8G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r357746h                      1.37M   122G  60.0G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359628c                      19.1G   122G  60.9G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750a                      1.37M   122G  61.4G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750b                      75.0G   122G  60.7G  / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750c                       392M   122G  62.7G  / > copperbowl/iocage                             4.35G   122G  3.68M > /copperbowl/iocage > copperbowl/iocage/download                     359M   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/download > copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE        359M   122G   359M > /copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE > copperbowl/iocage/images                        88K   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/images > copperbowl/iocage/jails                       2.75G   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/jails > copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers             2.75G   122G    92K > /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers > copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root        2.75G   122G  3.99G > /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root > copperbowl/iocage/log                          100K   122G   100K > /copperbowl/iocage/log > copperbowl/iocage/releases                    1.24G   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/releases > copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE       1.24G   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE > copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root  1.24G   122G  1.24G > /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root > copperbowl/iocage/templates                     88K   122G    88K > /copperbowl/iocage/templates > copperbowl/poudriere                          29.6G   122G    88K > /copperbowl/poudriere > copperbowl/poudriere/data                     1.92G   122G    96K > /usr/local/poudriere/data > copperbowl/poudriere/data/.m                    88K   122G    88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m > copperbowl/poudriere/data/cache                 88K   122G    88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache > copperbowl/poudriere/data/logs                1.48G   122G  1.48G > /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs > copperbowl/poudriere/data/packages             446M   122G   446M > /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages > copperbowl/poudriere/data/wrkdirs               88K   122G    88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs > copperbowl/poudriere/jails                      88K   122G    88K > /copperbowl/poudriere/jails > copperbowl/poudriere/ports                    27.7G   122G    88K > /copperbowl/poudriere/ports > copperbowl/poudriere/ports/default            27.7G   122G  27.7G > /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default > copperbowl/tmp                                 456K   122G   456K /tmp > copperbowl/usr                                 179G   122G    88K /usr > copperbowl/usr/home                            175G   122G   159G /usr/home > copperbowl/usr/ports                          1.90G   122G  1.90G > /usr/ports > copperbowl/usr/src                            2.09G   122G  2.09G /usr/src > copperbowl/var                                4.65G   122G    88K /var > copperbowl/var/audit                            88K   122G    88K > /var/audit > copperbowl/var/crash                          1.27M   122G  1.27M > /var/crash > copperbowl/var/log                            14.5M   122G  14.5M /var/log > copperbowl/var/mail                            128K   122G   128K /var/mail > copperbowl/var/tmp                            4.64G   122G  4.64G /var/tmp > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # From 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127.0.0.3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.72)[-0.721,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.84), ipnet: 66.111.4.0/24(-4.89), asn: 11403(-2.69), country: US(-0.05)]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[28.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.955,0]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 19:50:45 -0000 Yuri Pankov wrote: > Graham Perrin wrote: >> Below, I can't remove files to make way for (re)creation of a jail. >> >> Any suggestions? > > Tried chflags(8)? Sorry, it's chflags(1) (didn't re-check and wrote from memory assuming such utility should be in section 8). >> If it helps: at some point a few hours ago I might have accidentally >> begun (then cancelled) a bulk operation whilst using a different boot >> environment; the build began with a warning about the jail being newer >> than the host. >> >> >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -c -j head -v head -a amd64 >> -m src=/usr/src >> [00:00:00] Error: Directory /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head already >> exists >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -l >> JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm -rf /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation >> not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin/init: Operation not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var/empty: Operation not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Operation >> not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Operation >> not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Operation >> not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/login: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not >> permitted >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib: Directory not empty >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head: Directory not empty >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm >> /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 >> override r-xr-xr-x root/wheel schg for >> /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1? y >> rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation >> not permitted >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list >> NAME                                           USED  AVAIL  REFER >> MOUNTPOINT >> copperbowl                                     312G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl >> copperbowl/ROOT                               94.8G   122G    88K none >> copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox                       314M   122G  59.3G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r357746g                      1.22M   122G  59.8G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r357746h                      1.37M   122G  60.0G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359628c                      19.1G   122G  60.9G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359750a                      1.37M   122G  61.4G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359750b                      75.0G   122G  60.7G  / >> copperbowl/ROOT/r359750c                       392M   122G  62.7G  / >> copperbowl/iocage                             4.35G   122G  3.68M >> /copperbowl/iocage >> copperbowl/iocage/download                     359M   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/download >> copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE        359M   122G   359M >> /copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE >> copperbowl/iocage/images                        88K   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/images >> copperbowl/iocage/jails                       2.75G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/jails >> copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers             2.75G   122G    92K >> /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers >> copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root        2.75G   122G  3.99G >> /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root >> copperbowl/iocage/log                          100K   122G   100K >> /copperbowl/iocage/log >> copperbowl/iocage/releases                    1.24G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/releases >> copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE       1.24G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE >> copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root  1.24G   122G  1.24G >> /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root >> copperbowl/iocage/templates                     88K   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/iocage/templates >> copperbowl/poudriere                          29.6G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/poudriere >> copperbowl/poudriere/data                     1.92G   122G    96K >> /usr/local/poudriere/data >> copperbowl/poudriere/data/.m                    88K   122G    88K >> /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m >> copperbowl/poudriere/data/cache                 88K   122G    88K >> /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache >> copperbowl/poudriere/data/logs                1.48G   122G  1.48G >> /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs >> copperbowl/poudriere/data/packages             446M   122G   446M >> /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages >> copperbowl/poudriere/data/wrkdirs               88K   122G    88K >> /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs >> copperbowl/poudriere/jails                      88K   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/poudriere/jails >> copperbowl/poudriere/ports                    27.7G   122G    88K >> /copperbowl/poudriere/ports >> copperbowl/poudriere/ports/default            27.7G   122G  27.7G >> /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default >> copperbowl/tmp                                 456K   122G   456K /tmp >> copperbowl/usr                                 179G   122G    88K /usr >> copperbowl/usr/home                            175G   122G   159G >> /usr/home >> copperbowl/usr/ports                          1.90G   122G  1.90G >> /usr/ports >> copperbowl/usr/src                            2.09G   122G  2.09G >> /usr/src >> copperbowl/var                                4.65G   122G    88K /var >> copperbowl/var/audit                            88K   122G    88K >> /var/audit >> copperbowl/var/crash                          1.27M   122G  1.27M >> /var/crash >> copperbowl/var/log                            14.5M   122G  14.5M >> /var/log >> copperbowl/var/mail                            128K   122G   128K >> /var/mail >> copperbowl/var/tmp                            4.64G   122G  4.64G >> /var/tmp >> root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 20:08:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C94B2C7763 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zTc81jHZz4VJg for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.8.34.176]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MK3eI-1jiO9b1Zuw-00LWIP; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:08:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:08:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Lowell Gilbert , Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table Message-Id: <20200410220843.11cc232c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KRYcG/HbxMIX7ZgtPlTgZGp+a+v6YXn24T6Hckp0sauqfsyH0GV jz3TyadSnoRRH9j49OVjunYdytqQGxKZqDarefmYdvnJq/NvZN0gOTFcJJ5wuPjl9fGjZ77 Q22LettqgMax//xyfmc27oLx2xl6BjI47mjc4EB25LL0nKw14lqnNyhmtoeaJeCKK/l16Wj byD/wfQUITb3AnohwpOkQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:GG2Ilyfcu0g=:mQoYDaHqXxKq5NXi5zMVuR W1MUlP0sPfdLvIkA3yMjTW+FZLHnnQsEnm2mKQFjvu5URynFS/IQCQF/ZeNDvj+3SwURriJZ2 ijtLR2sDEXDVE+x8vEYUbIPm7dJGurHsdH+cSEBPUtff0cx2jk3T/Yh3jXozv7pdtj+xbUpzM sK5TlTlivwu2/fhC+GHVtNDZ8DhN08nlJFOIXZGznKx6aL9QzXIDYnYBTiBVYblMBhxyy8jFB NZh7cQYsMdCnnQ0AH/OLHBbCxkTULQrCWX2+U/ZlWgCgCplaACIHBZyMxhG2MbrN/14jNjHA5 t7dnJXSsAB0ich6u3e7YkbYvmXVROJ7LI44N0RowDTOCjvy3JhFKp5KQE10fnK871tkvmoy+F S3RElDlQyGD4tuGL3r4n+8Z2luDMqRryQ6Eh7w51U3INhoragnBSw+h58RXRPuOwMvoWsqW5R EI2oklImKin2v74k87ynIwuU/LVS31zTpGIfLjIbctpIhbUw837ATNca+ZHE/LFMHWSrColR9 739vgX11tWvdqBlrgw7ZA0L7fDPIsPF5hhV+rhRBdZYI1YDZK+3HX+vKFq0QvsR3k88Q8ulwh qo5Vup1PATpXyOrlqUtGcRkvrlIPzXvJ98kHe0JZ8t8eWmtHrzx+llME6JzSwOdmcrPYg3FnX xHspQtD853OufCR8COK4K8Qn2F03BnS9biYVyliY2EKqGhoY0AjY8ZwTrmDRz5FQZhi+6q56U xw0Le04d1kvEvRAKOtLh91zVpVnYwoYaYb3ey1RDxCHkhX23HGHk0ep+5i5sYq49d3ADW5ouC Ysir+QtGmSNfj8MGKLTkZjpMdcDID74nzY6EnnPUdb7kCZB/VPxhudvObDLQrktnbt5GEyB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zTc81jHZz4VJg X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:08:56 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:25:31 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jos Chrispijn writes: > > > I have added a line to my crontab that defines running a script on reboot: > > > > @reboot bash /root/cronjobs/reboot.sh & > > > > This (bash) .sh script should add an updated ipfw table (preventing I > > have to run his action manually) but unfortunately no script is > > executed on reboot. > > > > - script is executable > > - no action is mentioned in /var/log/cron > > > > Can you tell me what I do wrong here? Perhaps scheduling this action > > _after_ reboot would be the solution? > > Is there any reason that you can't use the system's standard ipfw script > for that? Or at least the system's standard scripting shell, /bin/sh? (Maybe you're using extended bash non-sh functionality that requires bash... if not, using plain sh makes things easier.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 20:22:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2A52C7FB8 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x830.google.com (mail-qt1-x830.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::830]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zTw44hZZz4WJm for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x830.google.com with SMTP id y25so2407060qtv.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NeK8E5yEkj4Q+Fze6N9PbX907E7Yy+61a+tuIKMf0Ak=; b=nRt+a17KYARC/Mwr/dVp6d+CkgZM49gRHzWdGxnqWcrtlWuy1fl4wnXxmp9PpEljWg raaGteFgoZuAS0UPmpFJB8xnDH7tve2/5O1d7w4EkKSmo91c+vrUsYltYh8yD9dEYa0V 2FOwxC+9bKgTv+vXR5YExtuAlhnU6KNFrgmefq/RdFMq/mm/X4Us10LJdywVIB6xfk5B l+6/4jZQT2MfTAVHjWqhFYeTlV7iWn+2HT/lFTTm8lTHoIAUFH5fhgJYeBCJpywVhxmD /zUHgd6AHCo8FfO9gaxccdoEtwEXN0wDC2D7s328tP8xdEmEj5G1NBeRuevlakOuYsRc SaDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NeK8E5yEkj4Q+Fze6N9PbX907E7Yy+61a+tuIKMf0Ak=; b=PknvGz9REWg7SjKyoCq8Fl0GUITvO6iRUYngt1SOWAqRbRzK67QhJoUtX+PiGTbwJm NoDN0uncaU41Y7DwtsOEON3hdCO1GZpSjSKurVXHDkA0Nt8opaRLXcRUkMhrGzo78jFa 541mGlHZd6qJpW7wAOtDudd+U9shnqP+xzb8OF08H4R9hN3PdXpENJ2PO8rleenQ1/BE h7Ffp4hvSrbCdADcqivehKHXG9MlCwvx9OxwAoMq2AsJL2XGnXbSoux/QpK10DraG2EH H1w4mxN3kE2Xy+1poyc7mPRCJSY8usc1scKk9PZBuGfyhhdqjJ292DgFWLjqyB/S1Gwt qPeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua9bGPrmElwazhHQMskycNPt5VV1Hgb/dBZVV68VyMwRVCPP3sf 0TKmZ6ofl0pHe5N34g4+pea8CKT937ZnwuypDqgFLW6jfrk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIkxMSBoNnnakQeSzhAFzMsHPUq0bFNMhU8aSvZ/KRontDibMJIZzdxKcEhIcpHPVlnbQXQUB8uUWQ0K/Sd6oE= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:688f:: with SMTP id m15mr929708qtq.123.1586550163099; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:22:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <22daa8dc-cb20-6b08-b85f-161e6aca06ec@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <22daa8dc-cb20-6b08-b85f-161e6aca06ec@gmail.com> From: Michael Sierchio Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:22:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Can't remove files from a directory that was partially used by a jail To: Graham Perrin Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zTw44hZZz4WJm X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=nRt+a17K; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kudzu@tenebras.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::830) smtp.mailfrom=kudzu@tenebras.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tenebras.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT(0.10)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.01)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:22:45 -0000 ls -Rlo recursive listing showing flags or, just apply the hammer, chflags -R 0 On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:02 AM Graham Perrin wrote: > Below, I can't remove files to make way for (re)creation of a jail. > > Any suggestions? > > If it helps: at some point a few hours ago I might have accidentally > begun (then cancelled) a bulk operation whilst using a different boot > environment; the build began with a warning about the jail being newer > than the host. > > > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -c -j head -v head -a amd64 > -m src=3D/usr/src > [00:00:00] Error: Directory /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head already exist= s > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # poudriere jail -l > JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm -rf /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin/init: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/sbin: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var/empty: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/var: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libthr.so.3: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/librt.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libcrypt.so.5: Operation > not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32/libc.so.7: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib32: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitte= d > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitt= ed > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitt= ed > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/bin: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr/lib: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/usr: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitte= d > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not > permitted > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/lib: Directory not empty > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head: Directory not empty > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # rm > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 > override r-xr-xr-x root/wheel schg for > /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1? y > rm: /usr/local/poudriere/jails/head/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1: Operation not > permitted > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER > MOUNTPOINT > copperbowl 312G 122G 88K > /copperbowl > copperbowl/ROOT 94.8G 122G 88K none > copperbowl/ROOT/Waterfox 314M 122G 59.3G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r357746g 1.22M 122G 59.8G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r357746h 1.37M 122G 60.0G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359628c 19.1G 122G 60.9G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750a 1.37M 122G 61.4G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750b 75.0G 122G 60.7G / > copperbowl/ROOT/r359750c 392M 122G 62.7G / > copperbowl/iocage 4.35G 122G 3.68M > /copperbowl/iocage > copperbowl/iocage/download 359M 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/download > copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE 359M 122G 359M > /copperbowl/iocage/download/12.0-RELEASE > copperbowl/iocage/images 88K 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/images > copperbowl/iocage/jails 2.75G 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/jails > copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers 2.75G 122G 92K > /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers > copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root 2.75G 122G 3.99G > /copperbowl/iocage/jails/jbrowsers/root > copperbowl/iocage/log 100K 122G 100K > /copperbowl/iocage/log > copperbowl/iocage/releases 1.24G 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/releases > copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE 1.24G 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE > copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root 1.24G 122G 1.24G > /copperbowl/iocage/releases/12.0-RELEASE/root > copperbowl/iocage/templates 88K 122G 88K > /copperbowl/iocage/templates > copperbowl/poudriere 29.6G 122G 88K > /copperbowl/poudriere > copperbowl/poudriere/data 1.92G 122G 96K > /usr/local/poudriere/data > copperbowl/poudriere/data/.m 88K 122G 88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m > copperbowl/poudriere/data/cache 88K 122G 88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/cache > copperbowl/poudriere/data/logs 1.48G 122G 1.48G > /usr/local/poudriere/data/logs > copperbowl/poudriere/data/packages 446M 122G 446M > /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages > copperbowl/poudriere/data/wrkdirs 88K 122G 88K > /usr/local/poudriere/data/wrkdirs > copperbowl/poudriere/jails 88K 122G 88K > /copperbowl/poudriere/jails > copperbowl/poudriere/ports 27.7G 122G 88K > /copperbowl/poudriere/ports > copperbowl/poudriere/ports/default 27.7G 122G 27.7G > /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default > copperbowl/tmp 456K 122G 456K /tmp > copperbowl/usr 179G 122G 88K /usr > copperbowl/usr/home 175G 122G 159G /usr/ho= me > copperbowl/usr/ports 1.90G 122G 1.90G > /usr/ports > copperbowl/usr/src 2.09G 122G 2.09G /usr/sr= c > copperbowl/var 4.65G 122G 88K /var > copperbowl/var/audit 88K 122G 88K > /var/audit > copperbowl/var/crash 1.27M 122G 1.27M > /var/crash > copperbowl/var/log 14.5M 122G 14.5M /var/lo= g > copperbowl/var/mail 128K 122G 128K /var/ma= il > copperbowl/var/tmp 4.64G 122G 4.64G /var/tm= p > root@momh167-gjp4-8570p:~ # 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Perhaps scheduling this action > > _after_ reboot would be the solution? > > Is there any reason that you can't use the system's standard ipfw script > for that? > > I would suggest just putting the reference to loading tables in your ipfw script. I never use the default. in /etc/rc.conf: firewall_enable=3D"YES" firewall_script=3D"/etc/ipfw/rc.ipfw" in /etc/ipfw/rc.ipfw: ###########################################################################= ##### # load tables in background lockf -kst 30 /tmp/fw-wl.lck ipfw-table-update whitelist & lockf -kst 30 /tmp/fw-bl.lck ipfw-table-update blacklist & lockf -kst 30 /tmp/cp-bl.lck ipfw-table-update cloudips & ipfw-table-update looks for .txt files in /etc/ipfw/
and creates and loads the table (it's a little more than that, since each table has an alternate to permit atomic table updates) components of the blacklist are updated several times an hour or several times a day. The script may be run manually, of course. --=20 "Well," Brahm=C4=81 said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is = no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 23:53:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E7427E7CD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zZbV36Plz3KNQ for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:53:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Restoring and snapshots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:53:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zZbV36Plz3KNQ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.958,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.62)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.54), asn: 6939(-3.60), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 23:53:43 -0000 On 2020-04-10 02:30, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > When I'm doing backups/dumps of ZFS filesystems (with whatever tool), I > use snapshots. > So, suppose I have the following datasets: > /etc > /usr > /usr/local > /var > > I'll snapshot them and back up > /etc/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ > /usr/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ > /usr/local/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ > /var/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ > > Then I'll get the same directory structure when restoring. > Any idea how to easily remove the .zfs/snap and go back to the original > tree? ZFS can roll back a filesystem per a snapshot. See zfs(8) 'rollback'. Make sure you understand the warnings about destroyed data and about recursive child snapshots. You will want to disable all services that use the filesystem(s) while you rollback. Better yet, unmount the filesystem(s) while you rollback. Whichever snapshot(s) you rollback to, they will remain after the rollback. If you want to restore only parts of a filesystem, I believe you must use filesystem-level tools. Consider implementing zfs-auto-snapshot. The ZFS analog of dump(8) is 'zfs send' and the ZFS analog of restore(8) is 'zfs receive', but there are differences. While you can put storage device(s) between the two commands and support one ZFS pool over time, I have a "live" server and pool, a "standby" server and pool, and several "external disk" pools. I put the 'send' and 'receive' commands into a pipeline and "replicate" from the "live" pool to the other pools periodically. > I tried writing a few lines of script, but I found out that's not so > easy (due to directories which must overlap, spaces in file names, etc...). > > Any hint? > >  bye & Thanks >     av. I am not sure I understand what you mean by "directories which must overlap" (?). The numerous shells and languages each have their own idiosyncrasies when it comes to spaces in file and directory names. For example, suppose I want to view the contents of a text file in a directory whose name contains spaces. If I use Bash and command completion, this works: $ cat path\ with\ spaces/hello.txt hello, world! Using Bash by hand, these also work -- note the placement of single quotes: $ cat 'path with spaces'/hello.txt hello, world! $ cat 'path with spaces/hello.txt' hello, world! But, this breaks: $ cat path with spaces/hello.txt cat: path: No such file or directory cat: with: No such file or directory cat: spaces/hello.txt: No such file or directory Translating the above into a Bourne shell script (which also works under Bash) -- note the placement of single and double quotes: $ cat ./foo.sh #!/bin/sh cat='/bin/cat' dir='path with spaces' file='hello.txt' $cat "$dir/$file" $ ./foo.sh hello, world! The key concept is that each path component needs to be preserved as a single unit, and not broken into pieces if it contains spaces. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 08:31:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356122B3642 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zp5P0sRMz4LfF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from guardian.ventu (guardian.guest.netfence.it [192.168.133.26]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 03B8VkWi085282 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:31:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host guardian.guest.netfence.it [192.168.133.26] claimed to be guardian.ventu Subject: Re: Restoring and snapshots To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:31:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zp5P0sRMz4LfF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.72)[ip: (-8.33), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-4.16), asn: 30722(3.84), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:31:54 -0000 On 2020-04-11 01:53, David Christensen wrote: > ZFS can roll back a filesystem per a snapshot.  See zfs(8) 'rollback'. I know, but this is not the point of my question. Probably I've not been that clear: let's suppose I'm restoring data from a ZFS system on a non ZFS filesystem. I just have plain files and I have to deal with that. > The ZFS analog of dump(8) is 'zfs send' and the ZFS analog of restore(8) > ... Again, I know, I'm using that in other situations, but this is not the case. > I am not sure I understand what you mean by "directories which must > overlap" (?). For example, after restore, I have: .../usr/jails/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/dc/ and .../usr/jails/dc/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ (This is a result of ezjail use of nullfs). So (in my script) I cannot simply "mv" directories around, but sometimes I need to "merge" them. > The numerous shells and languages each have their own idiosyncrasies > when it comes to spaces in file and directory names. While I avoid whitespaces in filenames, my users unfortunately won't (including very creative things, like spaces at the beginning or end). > The key concept is that each path component needs to be preserved as a > single unit, and not broken into pieces if it contains spaces. Ok. The real problem, when writing my script, is that I end up looping over results of `ls ...` or `find ...`. I read that is considered bad practice, so I asked if, maybe, there was a better way. Up to now, it seems not... I'm wondering if I should abandon sh and use something else (Python?). bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 10:34:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B630A2B5E07 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zrpX45Kpz4Sk3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsduser@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0DD8A2D; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:34:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586601249; bh=tzgp3aJNqLwssvp7Y3TyhvSp5D2JvLlvGiQvZQFn+Zs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qlvmHQs8KEL7xAyd1I9gdLPSjidjsjoX/Ug5Q7fZ1MntB22enbtZpCpONYOjTLc72 XHQsbtkM2/27eXI/IoYUkEMt4soPEKVcTrhLcdIR5gaYyNPM7tZHGSjQYyJLy+yPYY ohOKxoti5RvvSIJNGcnCQbd0zN5hXw3P1AiRQFqA= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (pion1.rpicloud.nl [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F04038A2C; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:34:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1586601249; bh=tzgp3aJNqLwssvp7Y3TyhvSp5D2JvLlvGiQvZQFn+Zs=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qlvmHQs8KEL7xAyd1I9gdLPSjidjsjoX/Ug5Q7fZ1MntB22enbtZpCpONYOjTLc72 XHQsbtkM2/27eXI/IoYUkEMt4soPEKVcTrhLcdIR5gaYyNPM7tZHGSjQYyJLy+yPYY ohOKxoti5RvvSIJNGcnCQbd0zN5hXw3P1AiRQFqA= Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lowell Gilbert References: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Userland rocks! Message-ID: <7e5f317c-1f06-9400-39c1-cd6ffe61334a@cloudzeeland.nl> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:34:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zrpX45Kpz4Sk3 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:34:12 -0000 On 10-4-20 21:25, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Is there any reason that you can't use the system's standard ipfw script > for that? It is a virtual table that is updated with new ip addresses. Unfortunately this table is empty after I reboot, so refill is needed (with the script). 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Message-Id: <20200411130302.3d4b50f2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1246771586602212@myt3-cba274279eae.qloud-c.yandex.net> References: <1246771586602212@myt3-cba274279eae.qloud-c.yandex.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1oXcCAYHesH2UXK9hkGIUlh3s04GBJVIFqte+AX4d8H2JURWZaJ bKfHydO34RLBN3Q1jIKqprZJs6U62j5d7/I9SKLIiHSwvZSiLOMG+fmz9IBmtau4mJY6cfa OXouDMTyEy0I/8rwzEOWFpM91XLnIH4sGBOtI5cHGeLnsuW1ZXXCRvwWQ/yUNC8bStyuQXp zY1fDOvWFZw810JeOknCg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:p12HqFa7t28=:Du6LXSR6uari7OGY2fHxKh AnEl521TWVf0nLEiXYNy+cF+6itCjVJ3jo0CnnDKkqRXppGMSMVGgg43eT4dwk0s4wPv88QZo VxuGWrLYlzvGTFivNnlMonNW2pe0QRflfEuZg/MtrmipOeVkWcgc/jc5a+RSoV7TSDn3KiBFc SxRPoZf98ky1IHVOg4Nqvw+kbiQWxsBqwRl2qHJ3QbFuN6vSoLRBS/DfJo2xeBwGZpTVrWote Z/YC1FJTToQkCDmH63G7LGNSJdM+rAvUNnrMssZWdqTxalzHa046ogcS/8xzzo1LmWcTpCuD3 H0pRwjmI5rejmKNwmF7dvooKj6gqHFbG+4gmyh4WXZAZiaDUQTRNAUeI3GLfo7UFNhEuNnkak 5VDd253/5hWownRVa0G4auVIXVEaLm+2SAVxzfQBmlfHSa06vRmf1Geh5zl+gVu69SKKUOSvp /s0nswUKtYKAUbEoEwJduAfiNsw3V5K+HUYqrWj49F5FDTKSPhvJASww8afO2hMghOW5ZBDez 6w345KRn9T0yafxnnfGlSsccmIfSsWx7Kuz33fVCHQx/rZUpaFECgtSA6MEOSw7ibFPE8q37E /cUyI/zApwllxztvOuKgITTLLg6T4XJY2sikw8oYNj303H3SJ7KPHdUpd97AW0HdX1IcA+Ze7 0r9m98KSwz30o4/ekFA+bFYNKANqY2eaUK8pcoX3I/vPPb/gI4ynjqLsN/f373fsb7esM34cD 9zH6GVMiGkb6seOnvYehDhaIJ+a9jNP2aGmINfo/oVzUWEfLTkiUPXj20Hy5Dc4r+p8bt62m9 zSuo/VtrMDjcFuB3pvZUqhSJD6lff3Uw/nq8K81HYt25A86Kd/V+AaNslvSvcDmkNaqqjyf X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zsRr4jXKz4V6W X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.42 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[78.161.223.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.75)[0.753,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.27)[ip: (0.43), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.17), asn: 8560(2.11), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:03:05 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 16:50:12 +0600, Nikita Stepanov wrote: > [nothing] FreeBSD is a multi-purpose operating system. It can be used for servers, for desktops, for laptops, for appliances, and for "mixed forms". That's why X is not part of the OS. On FreeBSD, only the kernel and the userland - the parts comprising the operating system - are delivered as a unit. Nothing else is needed to boot a fully operational system. Everything else, like X (which is optional) can be installed via pkg in binary form, or built from source using the ports collection Using this approach, FreeBSD keeps the "installation footprint" low, while _not_ stopping any specific kind of use. You want a server? Install what you wish to run, omit X. You want a gaming system? Install X, probably wine or winex, and your games. Want to run servers on your laptop? No problem, absolutely possible. And all those things are possible with one and the same (!) OS distribution. Ths OS can be installed for many different platforms. All of them are derived from the same set of sources. THis applies even to platforms that probably cannot even run X. This philosophy makes FreeBSD superior compared to other systems where you need one distribution for a server, another one for a desktop, and a third one for an embedded system. Sometimes distributions for something that is neither server nor desktop doesn't even exist. If you use FreeBSD's default installation media (usually the memstick image or the DVD image), you'll find X as a package that you can install. Using FreeBSD's media offline is possible - you don't need an Internet connection to obtain X. Furthermore, X is developed by the port maintainer, not by the folks maintaining the operating system. FreeBSD draws a nice line between "the operating system" and "third party software" (i. e., stuff from the ports collection). The OS can be installed and booted without anything else. _You_ decide what else you wish to install. So the consensus is: X is not part of the operating system, that's why it is not installed by default. If you want FreeBSD with X, try TrueOS (ex PC-BSD). PS. For reference purposes of the list, please state your question in the message body, and use the subject for a summary of the topic you wish to discuss. Thanks! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 17:19:51 +0600 Message-Id: <1901671586603991@sas2-ca838ac7608b.qloud-c.yandex.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zsqN6kzwz4Vqc X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yandex.kz header.s=mail header.b=RyRalYbE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yandex.kz; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz designates 2a02:6b8:0:801:2::105 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=nikitastepanov113@yandex.kz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.kz:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a02:6b8:0::/52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-1.72)[ipnet: 2a02:6b8::/32(-4.77), asn: 13238(-3.85), country: RU(0.01)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.kz:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.kz,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:2a02:6b8::/32, country:RU]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:20:02 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 12:22:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1961A2B8B24 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remy@luckyhands.nl) Received: from upuaut.luckyhands.nl (upuaut.luckyhands.nl [IPv6:2a01:7c8:aac0:539::1337]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zvC54DXqz4Z9R for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remy@luckyhands.nl) Received: from mbpremy.hd.luckyhands.nl (83-162-251-253.ip.xs4all.nl [83.162.251.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by upuaut.luckyhands.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AC9811FA0D; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:22:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Remy Zandwijk Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A6E4F620-8D7D-4BA1-B8CD-69579AE2F036"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: Cron config for ipfw table Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:22:01 +0200 References: <44blnzta6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <7e5f317c-1f06-9400-39c1-cd6ffe61334a@cloudzeeland.nl> To: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7e5f317c-1f06-9400-39c1-cd6ffe61334a@cloudzeeland.nl> Message-Id: <96B6708A-DD45-45D7-81E2-995011D8A0B2@luckyhands.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zvC54DXqz4Z9R X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of remy@luckyhands.nl designates 2a01:7c8:aac0:539::1337 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=remy@luckyhands.nl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.95 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:7c8:aac0:539::1337]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[luckyhands.nl]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.06)[ipnet: 2a01:7c8::/32(-3.66), asn: 20857(-1.65), country: NL(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20857, ipnet:2a01:7c8::/32, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:22:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A6E4F620-8D7D-4BA1-B8CD-69579AE2F036 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > It is a virtual table that is updated with new ip addresses. > Unfortunately this table is empty after I reboot, so refill is needed = (with the script). Which crontab are you actually using? If it is /etc/crontab, then you = should add a username (root) between @reboot and the path to the script. = Is your script executable? 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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 19:41:41 +0200 Message-Id: <6094091586626901@vla1-a1bfe7298e26.qloud-c.yandex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4902Hr4SD2z3Q5D X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=MTNUsjd8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yandex.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greencoppermine@yandex.com designates 77.88.28.107 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greencoppermine@yandex.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.com:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:77.88.0.0/18]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[107.28.88.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.53), ipnet: 77.88.0.0/18(-4.86), asn: 13238(-3.85), country: RU(0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:77.88.0.0/18, country:RU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 17:41:46 -0000 I'm on a gigabit connection in EU, using the "pkg0.bme.freebsd.org" is horrible: [1/22] Fetching unibilium-2.1.0.txz: 100% 120 KiB 123.1kB/s 00:01 [2/22] Fetching tmux-3.0a_1.txz: 100% 305 KiB 312.1kB/s 00:01 [3/22] Fetching smartmontools-7.1.txz: 100% 444 KiB 454.6kB/s 00:01 [4/22] Fetching samba410-4.10.13.txz: 2% 840 KiB 49.2kB/s 01:18 But I get similar very low speeds on the other mirrors as well. Why are not all the old http:.//ftp.*.freebsd.org mirrors used for pkg? They are still all up and they are way faster! 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To: Martin Hanson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4906J275Bhz45f1 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=LMGFTmhS; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32b) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yandex.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.79)[ip: (-8.13), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:42:12 -0000 On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 7:42 PM Martin Hanson wrote: > I'm on a gigabit connection in EU, using the "pkg0.bme.freebsd.org" is horrible: +1 on this one :-( Compared to Linux repos where you can fetch really large amount of packages in a seconds we are really behind :-( I can see some improvement in speed recently but its still too slow.. I love PKG system, it saves so much time on compiling, setting up, and maintenance. I know that PKG is using geolocation for better access and that packages need to be signed for security so these repositories are in control of the FreeBSD project.. Maybe creating more smaller mirrors could be helpful? Maybe allowing people to share their broadbands could be helpful? How about creating a dedicated low-power distributed ARM based PKG delivery system that could be burned to a SD card then run from some sort of *Pi device connected to a broadband? This way we could have lots of low power local delivery locations that could act as PKG mirrors :-) I will provide a dedicated thread for that idea to discuss :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 21:03:22 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA9227B266 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x235.google.com (mail-oi1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4906mT3fN7z47KK for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x235.google.com with SMTP id d63so4371944oig.6 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hVDcV3jmtRPwmv4No+a9QGxAmKAXjOWmxTlkFQX/ajE=; b=NdVEyZALVyQSXKUxSdmEOF0W4fDGo/E7+IpoNYicWFhD7ftVeYP1ujJPaUV5MMouAJ D5xXZS/puBoTGlR7I2Ir7nwP4wlUly63BX9yDKPtgSeIOJNrQS9VaaXqAon/i3gAiUg1 Aog4HTaYhYdYq0BuqVZ3KIy1J7N92Mf3l5fIHt7MuDGvXWRDgD+h+Ur1spAVGVGFgRJR frVatRzc6tZE7f4jfwNHe/9bKehvK/HeF9sZ+7B7eruzPSi7NLPydTt6XIFvzkxur/GR PD8C5J/DrVPDJhYrQ24C4n8t5BYEvhD2u2eq79VySGieclvqYIgjbHchCIfAkrI3K1xg ASLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hVDcV3jmtRPwmv4No+a9QGxAmKAXjOWmxTlkFQX/ajE=; b=kI/Of+b74JUUaxENJODu5d/GDcKYW7zHXMV+bvNRYTigEgJOVuo4/G5WOukSwEcY/o LqohK9Lyt3WPkXGNduixDrqEZgAbN0lhdH2+CEsBmDg+nb1b6tEw7mvJSpWslVziWh/H pspcR0kRp7tGdr9OBbplQDa/lSqCPFKbrZ/71Cz8Sk++BT/b+inHBbf6U+wTIkE8+W39 +ffNmJdtz1N5lfJTsih8aMIIsjNCmkpNOZN4M0946KFfPaezRGXrDbG8c2KYsG9K8Vxk ai/YDOosMAxCfSCphc38aUNi0b0yH/5RwqAUT1pq5pHnscJ7T6OGjo92st2rRtPD6mp6 el1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua7cgfVHMPEoHdEEIA7VmpvId7n2sdAxy2Ik/bk2u9Ncsa6z2FB +SZ597mOMwPdXMM7kiUAmlwQQa9GoBg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKe9adPVf7kBVKQWIsiTZ1PQQCmAQ+5o3spaMyYX3yfje2WVChr+X5OnHNr3HsxyBtk4xf40Q== X-Received: by 2002:aca:47c8:: with SMTP id u191mr7661104oia.170.1586639000133; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f170.google.com (mail-oi1-f170.google.com. [209.85.167.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f1sm3834551ooj.38.2020.04.11.14.03.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f170.google.com with SMTP id k9so4350734oia.8; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:485:: with SMTP id z5mr7275471oid.78.1586638998185; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:02:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: BSDPKGNET: PKG MESH CDN P2P To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4906mT3fN7z47KK X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=NdVEyZAL; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::235) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(2.03)[27]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.97)[ip: (-9.06), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:03:22 -0000 Hello world :-) I have this idea on how we could improve PKG delivery speeds.. :-) How about creating a dedicated low-power distributed head-less ARM based PKG delivery system that could be burned to a SD card then run from some sort of *Pi (RaspberryPi, BananaPi, ARM routers, etc) device connected to a broadband by users all around the planet? Another idea is to use P2P of some sort, so such proxies would provide only bits of data, maybe even FreeBSD users could serve as P2P nodes if they wanted to. This way we could have lots of low power local delivery locations that could act as Tier-2 PKG mirrors / caches / proxies. We could have then Tier-1 PKG platrofms and control provided by the FreeBSD project :-) I would gladly share my 60MBit uplink broadband to host this kind of PKG CDN. I could also install such low-power devices in places with fast broadband which are barely used in casual everyday situations. Here are the goals: 1. I would run on a low power device such as network router or BananaPi of any sort (around 10W power usage). 2. It would require only burning a SD card image to set up. Maybe ifconfig (local uart CLI no web interface). 3. All cached packages would be also stored on a SD card (64GB? 128GB?) no external drives attached. 4. All maintenance could be automated from a central command and require no user interaction. 5. The SD card image can be even encrypted to improve security. 6. P2P protocols could be used to spread the bits of data and off-load the traffic from a single pkg host to a many smaller hosts or even workstations. Hints and Comments are welcome :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 22:18:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13EA27D238 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4908RZ58K8z4C0T for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:18:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Restoring and snapshots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:18:43 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4908RZ58K8z4C0T X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.966,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.62)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.54), asn: 6939(-3.60), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:18:51 -0000 On 2020-04-11 01:31, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2020-04-11 01:53, David Christensen wrote: > let's suppose I'm restoring data from > a ZFS system on a non ZFS filesystem. > I just have plain files and I have to deal with that. I am confused: * What is the type of the filesystem that was the source of the backup? * What tool(s) did you use to backup? * What is the type of the filesystem that was the destination of the backup? Is the the source of the restore? * What tool(s) are you using to restore? * What is the type of the filesystem that is the destination of the restore? > For example, after restore, > I have: > > .../usr/jails/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/dc/ > and > .../usr/jails/dc/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ So, the backup source filesystem and the restore destination filesystems are both ZFS (?). What you have show above is the default Unix filesystem representations of snapshots for two ZFS filesystems: pool/.../jails pool/.../jails/dc The upper Unix filesystem path should be an empty directory. The lower Unix filesystem path should contain the contents of the pool/.../jails/dc ZFS filesystem (.../usr/jails/dc Unix filesystem) when the snapshot was taken. > (This is a result of ezjail use of nullfs). I believe it is a result of the 'mountpoint' properties of the two ZFS file systems and how ZFS represents filesystem snapshots in the Unix file system. > So (in my script) I cannot simply "mv" directories around, but sometimes > I need to "merge" them. AIUI the Unix filesystem namespace, the ZFS filesystem namespace, and the ZFS snapshot namespace are related by: * ZFS properties -- 'canmount', 'mounted', 'mountpoint', and 'snapdir'. * ZFS design -- notably Unix filesystem representation of ZFS snapshots: '.zfs/snapshot/filesystem@snapname'. * Filesystem and ZFS operations over time. Navigating these namespaces by hand is tricky. Writing scripts to navigate them is non-trivial. > The real problem, when writing my script, is that I end up looping over > results of `ls ...` or `find ...`. I read that is considered bad > practice, so I asked if, maybe, there was a better way. > Up to now, it seems not... I believe looping over the results of a command in a Bourne shell script is a common programming technique. But, I would probably invoke the command and store the results into a variable on one line and start a loop over the variable contents on another line, so that I could insert a debug echo between the two lines and see the contents of the variable. > I'm wondering if I should abandon sh and use something else (Python?). When I migrated from Linux and ext4 to FreeBSD and ZFS, I wanted to incorporate zfs-auto-snapshot and replication in my disaster recovery plans. This required me to rethink my workflows and revise or rewrite the associated Bourne and Perl scripts. For simple stuff, I found that I could write and deploy Bourne scripts more easily and quickly than Perl scripts. For non-simple stuff, sometimes I wrote a Bourne script that called a Perl script for crux moves and sometimes I wrote the whole script in Perl. The key differentiators for choosing Perl over Bourne included command-line option and argument processing, data structures/ algorithms, and automated testing. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 11 22:36:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C4827DA29 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4908rM02SGz4D9X for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:36:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Restoring and snapshots To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56b4e678-0e66-e65b-b9d2-a2e79a5b7b6f@netfence.it> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <94571e53-636a-cc92-55ea-e2203194007a@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:36:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4908rM02SGz4D9X X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.62)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.54), asn: 6939(-3.60), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:36:52 -0000 On 2020-04-11 15:18, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-04-11 01:31, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >> On 2020-04-11 01:53, David Christensen wrote: > >> let's suppose I'm restoring data from a ZFS system on a non ZFS >> filesystem. >> I just have plain files and I have to deal with that. > > I am confused: > > *  What is the type of the filesystem that was the source of the backup? > > *  What tool(s) did you use to backup? > > *  What is the type of the filesystem that was the destination of the > backup?  Is the the source of the restore? Correction: Is this the source of the restore? > > *  What tool(s) are you using to restore? > > *  What is the type of the filesystem that is the destination of the > restore? > > >> For example, after restore, > >> I have: >> >> .../usr/jails/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/dc/ >> and >> .../usr/jails/dc/.zfs/snapshot/snapname/ > > So, the backup source filesystem and the restore destination filesystems > are both ZFS (?). > > > What you have show above is the default Unix filesystem representations > of snapshots for two ZFS filesystems: > >     pool/.../jails > >     pool/.../jails/dc > > > The upper Unix filesystem path should be an empty directory. > > > The lower Unix filesystem path should contain the contents of the > pool/.../jails/dc ZFS filesystem (.../usr/jails/dc Unix filesystem) when > the snapshot was taken. > > >> (This is a result of ezjail use of nullfs). > > I believe it is a result of the 'mountpoint' properties of the two ZFS > file systems and how ZFS represents filesystem snapshots in the Unix > file system. > > >> So (in my script) I cannot simply "mv" directories around, but >> sometimes I need to "merge" them. > > AIUI the Unix filesystem namespace, the ZFS filesystem namespace, and > the ZFS snapshot namespace are related by: > > *  ZFS properties -- 'canmount', 'mounted', 'mountpoint', and 'snapdir'. > > *  ZFS design -- notably Unix filesystem representation of ZFS > snapshots: '.zfs/snapshot/filesystem@snapname'. Correction: '.zfs/snapshot/snapname' > *  Filesystem and ZFS operations over time. > > > Navigating these namespaces by hand is tricky.  Writing scripts to > navigate them is non-trivial. > > >> The real problem, when writing my script, is that I end up looping >> over results of `ls ...` or `find ...`. I read that is considered bad >> practice, so I asked if, maybe, there was a better way. >> Up to now, it seems not... > > I believe looping over the results of a command in a Bourne shell script > is a common programming technique.  But, I would probably invoke the > command and store the results into a variable on one line and start a > loop over the variable contents on another line, so that I could insert > a debug echo between the two lines and see the contents of the variable. > > >> I'm wondering if I should abandon sh and use something else (Python?). > > When I migrated from Linux and ext4 to FreeBSD and ZFS, I wanted to > incorporate zfs-auto-snapshot and replication in my disaster recovery > plans.  This required me to rethink my workflows and revise or rewrite > the associated Bourne and Perl scripts.  For simple stuff, I found that > I could write and deploy Bourne scripts more easily and quickly than > Perl scripts.  For non-simple stuff, sometimes I wrote a Bourne script > that called a Perl script for crux moves and sometimes I wrote the whole > script in Perl.  The key differentiators for choosing Perl over Bourne > included command-line option and argument processing, data structures/ > algorithms, and automated testing. > > > David David