From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 5 16:42:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C1E36EFE8 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 16:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (108-84-10-9.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.84.10.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "darth.immure.com", Issuer "darth.immure.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0Dxl3LTfz486Q for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 16:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 065GftIb006279 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:41:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 065GftjB006278; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:41:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:41:55 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" Cc: questions list Subject: Re: Routing IP traffic from client through server openvpn tunnel? Message-ID: <20200705164155.GA6262@rancor.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <20200704133607.GA91599@rancor.immure.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0Dxl3LTfz486Q X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bob@rancor.immure.com has no SPF policy when checking 108.84.10.9) smtp.mailfrom=bob@rancor.immure.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.15 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[bob@immure.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.35)[0.352]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[immure.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.829]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.77)[0.768]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[bob@immure.com,bob@rancor.immure.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:108.64.0.0/11, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bob@immure.com,bob@rancor.immure.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 16:42:04 -0000 On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 12:12:22PM -0700, Jin Guojun[VFF] wrote: > On 07/04/20 06:36, Bob Willcox wrote: > > My FreeBSD gateway system has an openvpn tunnel connected to my Son's network > > and when logged into the gateway system we can access his network throught the > > tunnel just fine. But from other systems in my network it doesn't work. The > > packets get over to the gateway system (maul) but no further. > > > > This is the routing table on my gateway system: > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire > > default 108.84.10.14 UGS igb0 > > 10.1.132.0/23 link#2 U em0 > > 10.1.132.1 link#2 UHS lo0 > > 10.4.0.1 link#4 UH tun0 > > 10.4.0.2 link#4 UHS lo0 > > 108.84.10.8/29 link#1 U igb0 > > 108.84.10.9 link#1 UHS lo0 > > 108.84.10.13 link#1 UHS lo0 > > 127.0.0.1 link#3 UH lo0 > > 192.168.2.0/24 10.4.0.1 UGS tun0 > > > > Here's a traceroute from the gateway system: > > > > bob@maul:2> traceroute 192.168.2.19 > > traceroute to 192.168.2.19 (192.168.2.19), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets > > 1 coovas.knighthammer.com (10.4.0.1) 55.347 ms 53.420 ms 55.786 ms > > 2 192.168.2.19 (192.168.2.19) 50.291 ms 48.516 ms 55.858 ms > > > > And here is one from one of my other systems: > > > > bob@han:1> traceroute 192.168.2.19 > > traceroute to 192.168.2.19 (192.168.2.19), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets > > 1 maul (10.1.132.1) 0.261 ms 0.256 ms 0.244 ms > > 2 * * * > > 3 * * * > > > > So my question is, what am I missing (likely on the gateway system) that would > > prevent the packets from other systems being routed to the tunnel? > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Bob > If the gateway a commercial box, this could happen as traffic from WAN > port to LAN blocked by firewall. > If the gateway is built by a PC, then, you need to check ip_forwarding > settings. > > On end hosts, make sure masks match the port subnet mask on the gateway. > For han:1 case, both end hosts need to set specific router for routing > 192.168.2 to 10.1.132 and in reverse direction. > han:1 # route add -net 192.168.2.0/24 a_proper_router_interface_IP > the_other_host # route add -net 10.1.132.0/23 > a_proper_router_interface_IP > > Above are most common issues in configuring network. If these things are > all set properly, then > you need to provide more details and full topology of the network for > analyzing the problem. I would like to thank everyone for their responses. As it turns out the problem was with routing on my Son's system in that he had an error in his routing table. Once corrected all was well, packets are transferring both directions now. Sorry for disturbance, Bob -- Bob Willcox | It's possible that the whole purpose of your life is to bob@immure.com | serve as a warning to others. Austin, TX | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 5 21:41:01 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE9D34E430 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcuzmar@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-40141.protonmail.ch (mail-40141.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "SwissSign Server Gold CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0MZg70sQz4QQW for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcuzmar@protonmail.com) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:40:52 +0000 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Juan Cuzmar Reply-To: Juan Cuzmar Subject: Error "misleading indentation" compiling the kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0MZg70sQz4QQW X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.38 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[jcuzmar@protonmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.com:s=protonmail]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.86)[-0.859]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.887]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[185.70.40.141:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.630]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[protonmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:CH]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[185.70.40.141:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:41:01 -0000 Hi! Im trying to compile my custom kernel but shows me this error: --- mrsas_cam.o --- cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.1 --sysroot=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.am= d64/tmp -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict= -aliasing -march=3Dnative -g -nostdinc=C2=A0 -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/= sys/contrib/ck/include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNE= L_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h=C2=A0 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-o= mit-leaf-frame-pointer -MD=C2=A0 -MF.depend.mrsas_cam.o -MTmrsas_cam.o -fde= bug-prefix-map=3D./machine=3D/usr/src/sys/amd64/include -fdebug-prefix-map= =3D./x86=3D/usr/src/sys/x86/include -mcmodel=3Dkernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mm= x -mno-sse -msoft-float=C2=A0 -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestandin= g -fwrapv -fstack-protector -gdwarf-2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-exte= rns -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -W= undef -Wno-pointer-sign -D__printf__=3D__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-includ= e-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-error-tautologic= al-compare -Wno-error-empty-body -Wno-error-parentheses-equality -Wno-error= -unused-function -Wno-error-pointer-sign -Wno-error-shift-negative-value -W= no-address-of-packed-member=C2=A0 -mno-aes -mno-avx=C2=A0 -std=3Diso9899:19= 99 -Werror=C2=A0 /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1919:4: error: misleading indentation; s= tatement is not part of the previous 'if' [-Werror,-Wmisleading-indentation= ] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 if (mpt_cmd->ccb_ptr->cpi.bus_id =3D=3D bus_id && =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ^ /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1916:3: note: previous statement is here =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 if (bus_id =3D=3D 1= ) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ^ 1 error generated. *** [mrsas_cam.o] Error code 1 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GLATS --- mmc.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g mmc.o --- modules-all --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g arcmsr.o A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/arcmsr *** [all_subdir_arcmsr] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules 1 error make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules *** [modules-all] Error code 2 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GLATS --- mrsas.o --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g mrsas.o 2 errors make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GLATS *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 make[1]: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make[1]: stopped in /usr/src *** [buildkernel] Error code 2 make: stopped in /usr/src 1 error make: stopped in /usr/src here is my /etc/make.conf CPUTYPE?=3Dnative CFLAGS=3D-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing COPTFLAGS=3D-O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing MALLOC_PRODUCTION=3D"YES" and my /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_ASSERT_DEBUG=3D"ON" I don't think the configuration kernel is important. But if it is, please l= et me know to post it. Thanks! 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I can see that this package was removed from ports: x11-wm/hs-xmonad-contrib||2020-05-26|Deprecated: Haskell libraries get pushed out of the ports tree Whats the recommended way to get these libraries? I can just build all of this with cabal-install, but that makes having hs-xmonad as a package bit silly. Thanks, dbalan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 05:27:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3C4359D88 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 05:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0Ywb4gclz4lPR for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 05:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3b95b926 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 05:27:07 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ihor Antonov Subject: Timestamps in dmesg Message-ID: <9fb6daea-7b45-3eed-509a-66dca35d5a92@antonovs.family> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 22:27:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0Ywb4gclz4lPR X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.92 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.985]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.146]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 05:27:12 -0000 Hello FreeBSD folks. A question I've got recently while monitoring a few bugs on my laptop is "Why does dmesg not show timestamps?". My use case is following: once in a while a buggy driver would spill an error into dmesg. It does it periodically, probably in response to some user action. When I look at dmesg I see dozens of similar error messages, but I don't know really how often they happen. Did it happen 15 times in last minute? Or 15 times over this day? Having timestamps would help to correlate errors to other events. I tried searching through old mailing lists and forum and the only thing I found is that someone considered this feature to be a bloat. (NetBSD has it!) Am I missing something obvious? How can I get timestamps in dmesg? It seems to me that this is such an essential feature.. Thanks. Ihor Antonov From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 06:06:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC8435B026 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 06:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd41.google.com (mail-io1-xd41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0Znx2x8Cz4mp5 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 06:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd41.google.com with SMTP id q74so14534996iod.1 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2020 23:06:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NqqyjZ7Gffn8VorQoVgg7ZfbzTfkFwseMXsM3yv4SO0=; b=jM8KuIoDJO5srl66NArUkg0qKZYEShS/kJu5wkkuwSjuylHiNlFGWIO3renqqCo6Bm x1tIMobCylk8Zt0rfjc0I0cIsHQP9UG2pAE1amF1oqFVypaaXXZJmFnVEk2g4unZxNQ+ eIOAp23KzQK3G7/VyNiiH6//bU0KJ5LNFIZT9uKq8QuPh/xNxOKQcgeXQ7ODfWCzwiML b8C4BZrHpsB/yBqW03yS4VYZdlcCGVp7SE9wg5nmd9rQmt/7eZuH90oxU13NTWMiWQZX q/ZkY12Y7Opte/SWDCUUJTvbSnOJ15hLHmeiRgcvFux1MSZpRNAzIssa2K2ZuxDr2KOa 4DXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NqqyjZ7Gffn8VorQoVgg7ZfbzTfkFwseMXsM3yv4SO0=; b=gvi1/H+SahLa49C3l16szhhctbn2QZoRJBE8QZo4nqyVlkRfscxPfEfq3GHUcCxmyZ pb4d704GZL2gEjf4tUsVqWSne3IdibCOLVZXRr4L3Fp04x5IH+pHqCXMLzbpKsK77XOq ymlHofZM/OjFdRQLFKHAtw17Kdsj+GBNQ19d5ok7QDXg2I83MDlR/2PsR0zMMSuOpnoI 7KJ7GyGqOoHWLCkvPNzt8k0e4PLkUyyJ54nhHxSFLAVxcEDCoRrxEHeYPRn8kgIXP8CP fG7iCxG/UuutA7LbiPRPGdwUvEXsp4evY+OrvmyxzgaEi3XxDE/Tvr1quRKSja0PHfjS pDLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532raweQGdnmF3cMM9U3KKzzPZIk979EP8NixwptS0rVWbGA+FQe 4HheNcJZMfVbGvkjb7EiBPEceCuqGb2JrogrsIk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzQGi9uP53oE/F8G0ef94bFR66Q/KY/wzmX6crO/ugCaSGie8CckWBLMGHAF8s3LJNRJcf2jWTJ/F+MzeKWAOs= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e617:: with SMTP id g23mr24349340ioh.103.1594015587522; Sun, 05 Jul 2020 23:06:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Michael Schuster Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:06:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Error "misleading indentation" compiling the kernel To: Juan Cuzmar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0Znx2x8Cz4mp5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jM8KuIoD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of michaelsprivate@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=michaelsprivate@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.12 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.031]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.001]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.09)[-0.086]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[protonmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 06:06:30 -0000 On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:42 PM Juan Cuzmar via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > Hi! > > Im trying to compile my custom kernel but shows me this error: > > --- mrsas_cam.o --- > > cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.1 > --sysroot=/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp > -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -c -O2 -pipe > -fno-strict-aliasing -march=native -g -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ck/include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-omit-frame-pointer > -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer -MD -MF.depend.mrsas_cam.o -MTmrsas_cam.o > -fdebug-prefix-map=./machine=/usr/src/sys/amd64/include > -fdebug-prefix-map=./x86=/usr/src/sys/x86/include -mcmodel=kernel > -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector > -gdwarf-2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > -D__printf__=__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs > -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas > -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-empty-body > -Wno-error-parentheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function > -Wno-error-pointer-sign -Wno-error-shift-negative-value > -Wno-address-of-packed-member -mno-aes -mno-avx -std=iso9899:1999 > -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c > > /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1919:4: error: misleading indentation; > statement is not part of the previous 'if' > [-Werror,-Wmisleading-indentation] > > if (mpt_cmd->ccb_ptr->cpi.bus_id == bus_id && > > ^ > > /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1916:3: note: previous statement is here > > if (bus_id == 1) > > ^ > a quick check in the latest current sources (AFAICT) doesn't show anything obvious (no, I didn't build) - so either I'm missing it too, or perhaps you need to update your sources and retry. HTH Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ recursion, n: see 'recursion' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 08:02:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6971835F4AE for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.190.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0dMm3Ghsz3RPR for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: IoGAMOEVM1mZBHEt0lUWX4qHaPkUKqfc_ZtXdV7p0fleH1BOFrP0nrXZhE3xO1a KMZINDqCZ.aMkq5nQDMoxpE.krcT_Rpn5VLhiI6_3jR9WQcm6n87gOyRgB_mFS4qrIvXlFykSyqX S95p4zX6r8WZvWROvvBMqP7KNd8c.AXOzEwGAL.STTGoNCaICl4GKRQLHa8jvzZhSkylTCyMqU8F 1kspg2DdNUfXrH5ilXPAQS9QX2sJSoiRP5w97mMVYpHGZj_4ZskUKlwp6xyvM9zaEtV2x8W5TxET 5xiiiPIeaqi_Nu9BHINTFndztk1Je2_.8hPnDPrjIrnQ8JZkUu4Nf0k3hNemfoPl5VjF1bJXhisq cxiBY8wH8Czldqlz31fq73b4KQjbLrWbek8An7SDh._Qic4393Il3SMWo3bZyX9BQmCoBkF4dYJr o.trAr3kceYS8ZCceBo4V9lQMAztpTVKBTvP9mtyyDNP28_eBTo4OMSlm3IEqvH_vsJ2qAjYCJTC uen2SuCguoE7peJvI4kAcw_dLelAV2UlGw8BTRgfqt93GppEHoOoZ1yhaGVAFBmws9M4phuh54Tk vfI7lKIULm2Tx5kw.489_zWAtNnOHiTdCmh._sIODygZeUJbA1WOFiU2qtZE05F7sttK1MgJONTE jisaHC6898nPf_u4UmHuPmVjmG2ICXW8GTpSvgfZf4g54r6H0cZ5V1RDP28z8el5rVtB0g0KCbQn igX03GsX9rPQ03PW8fWURkCd5CFE.00MPiF9zUfj4NRw_Jzjn64dc61A3_POIwYIbtk24nyCbYVi Xjs1vP2y1oojWQ6TFvxgN0McBMbnLtMUODiF8_ADWTL9fDu4DBT9f7imO9TEA9pQ7Ii3WCPrHEVV vwUcVlHIOwSub8DhLkkD7jVT7pPWtilnaKdy7LGLLLiycF.k_pmsBnNAhJsfe6nC2tQu7YBMQKxn 2zVYFjZoKOtxUL5BDx92rOgkxDzYT5hoIlQMxB5FnVssjxsWmvAOWM8ZECQ6_liw0x5_bERGrM45 CP2iU3yMkFloCmXmtC2ETzDqnGnzBQnt0fRGKGDSviqxHy9VhUvsHMBZEvS2.e6ciML7a0vz.JFc n6w3kaBfllUH4rD3_NGNn1g1DrCBHg16d3GniBTsKjdu2QyIIYYQ7o4XPfT.D_UTfHkjgj7.0Ft4 ll5OUtzKSgnZ_P7bMCc_.QDO.cpxXWa7JE_qXRoyGLurNlaucSQYOtPh4wB0U05ZT8W4NxL8VW4d R3E6_eDJCxAlgQ5U_B2UOUxfhcxEWNfSZYY3UzSPZV3shyF26CBexBXeAOt96.RqQA0FXiMLp.Ds 1jgQDw8GeN0_A9gz2oK6pdPGrU6uWD7FX4MZx7TlC_HMS_WNI5V6QdCm7QvPqdgv2haA5ZyUh5BZ PrJGQ8IRQ8bLWrw2QiIVUfIBZTrlcURMQ Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:02:27 +0000 Received: by smtp418.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a2bb1e42c1f4d15729b7b38b380a0b51; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg1-f179.google.com with SMTP id j19so11150537pgm.11 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:02:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vAWhIsS+53LJvZjO6pXdqP7Bp1av28tozvFSFQMaZB2lJYWjM txkKgwiADESiOwL5D/Myixi09aDT/h9obA9LrHo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxRytacerGd8T+P+Kim0NWkhO1EvQQG+hKLu8J70a0NabUiAbpLssnsaEh/BqQMbrp5LbfPap2jLbihN/RljGo= X-Received: by 2002:a63:1b4b:: with SMTP id b11mr38158396pgm.243.1594022543079; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:02:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9fb6daea-7b45-3eed-509a-66dca35d5a92@antonovs.family> In-Reply-To: <9fb6daea-7b45-3eed-509a-66dca35d5a92@antonovs.family> From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:02:06 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Timestamps in dmesg Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16197 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0dMm3Ghsz3RPR X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.13 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.938]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.965]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.523]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.190.31:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.190.31:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:02:29 -0000 On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 06:27, Ihor Antonov wrote: > How can I get timestamps in dmesg? It seems to me that this is such an > essential feature.. > /var/log/messages -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 09:36:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C0D361064 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0gSf0Pwnz3XRj for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from x1 (unknown [77.109.77.76]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E56BD1D4FC26 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:36:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:36:39 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mpd5 link up Message-ID: <20200706093639.64kx6wehespfqgnt@x1> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0gSf0Pwnz3XRj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.66)[-0.663]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.897]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.688]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 09:36:51 -0000 Hello, I switched from base ppp to mpd5 for my "home" router/firewall (small APU2C4) as ppp consumes a lot of CPU usage (100% CPU in fact) and is unable to use multiple cores for a single PPPOE connection. It works well but as I have a dynamic IP and a DYNDNS-like hostname I don't see any option in mpd5 to execute a script whenever the IP address changes. There is set "iface up-script xxx.sh" but it is called only when the interface changes it's state to UP (first connection). This is my configuration: https://gist.github.com/silenius/0a40de647b48829fd76c5dec098188e3 Any idea if I missed something in the documentation? Otherwise, is there a way to detect an address IP changes in devd? Thanks! Julien -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 10:23:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05E83630D4 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [46.19.33.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0hV15xjgz3c4P for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0hTs3gzTz12F0 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:22:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=pwiSSE//r9iI4p1pFN0vyqQgow8=; b=ZBD1fC rWJTwB+Ud8hjEWazWP/Bcs+YcIBd2yf2S53gDsU+i196YfgiWyvx/7HoqMnwhWVb 1nzH7nq8b4+FA7W/xQDugKMIWXeEHHkxeFIafRdFENSWvnRyH4U8PK2WLo7RagIk mwQkArLNXxHfTM6Hk9RKIJ1bWjpu/RCMtcReQ= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0hTr4gQ4z12Dy for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:22:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd5 link up References: <20200706093639.64kx6wehespfqgnt@x1> In-reply-to: <20200706093639.64kx6wehespfqgnt@x1> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 12:22:55 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0hV15xjgz3c4P X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=ZBD1fC r; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 46.19.33.155 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.44 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.938]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.706]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:46.19.32.0/21, country:NL] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:23:06 -0000 On dl., jul. 06 2020, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I switched from base ppp to mpd5 for my "home" router/firewall > (small > APU2C4) as ppp consumes a lot of CPU usage (100% CPU in fact) > and is > unable to use multiple cores for a single PPPOE connection. It > works > well but as I have a dynamic IP and a DYNDNS-like hostname I > don't see > any option in mpd5 to execute a script whenever the IP address > changes. > There is set "iface up-script xxx.sh" but it is called only when > the > interface changes it's state to UP (first connection). > > This is my configuration: > https://gist.github.com/silenius/0a40de647b48829fd76c5dec098188e3 > > Any idea if I missed something in the documentation? > Otherwise, is there a way to detect an address IP changes in > devd? > > Thanks! > > Julien Hi Julien, I actually recently did precisely that as well (also on an APU :-)). You can have up and down scripts with: set iface up-script /up-stuff set iface down-script /down-stuff This is documented with the port in: /usr/local/share/doc/mpd5/mpd28.html Cheers, and enjoy the *much* better performance :-) -- Evilham From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 10:28:17 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D53F362DEC for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [46.19.33.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0hc04FgVz3c7M for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0hbz24HWz12F4 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:28:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=H2YxzKwMUaCmIOEhoGc7iLki/TQ=; b=EDt4SS SQUtFNwF7wQaRFQBEXwZDyhzuHMQ5FgTKG6WYPe5Vo6Jn8bKBDIWg7H6wsumoh5b UPDYzTqT9CdudPb857n/HAjIvibnJwkBgom6huK37txl+80TszBjh6i5XVJ49SB0 c5d8Jx78NenfWSLwHnEqL9DDRU88fgE5mb8N0= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0hby5Vg7z12F3 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:28:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd5 link up References: <20200706093639.64kx6wehespfqgnt@x1> In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 12:28:13 +0200 Message-ID: <37ac95e3-8167-4f59-adb0-c87905825e28@yggdrasil.evilham.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0hc04FgVz3c7M X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=EDt4SS S; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 46.19.33.155 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.938]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.706]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:46.19.32.0/21, country:NL] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:28:17 -0000 On dl., jul. 06 2020, Evilham wrote: > On dl., jul. 06 2020, Julien Cigar wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I switched from base ppp to mpd5 for my "home" router/firewall >> (small >> APU2C4) as ppp consumes a lot of CPU usage (100% CPU in fact) >> and is >> unable to use multiple cores for a single PPPOE connection. It >> works >> well but as I have a dynamic IP and a DYNDNS-like hostname I >> don't see >> any option in mpd5 to execute a script whenever the IP address >> changes. >> There is set "iface up-script xxx.sh" but it is called only >> when >> the >> interface changes it's state to UP (first connection). >> >> This is my configuration: >> https://gist.github.com/silenius/0a40de647b48829fd76c5dec098188e3 >> >> Any idea if I missed something in the documentation? >> Otherwise, is there a way to detect an address IP changes in >> devd? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Julien > > Hi Julien, > > I actually recently did precisely that as well (also on an APU > :-)). > > This is documented with the port in: > /usr/local/share/doc/mpd5/mpd28.html > > Cheers, and enjoy the *much* better performance :-) Crap, hit send too quickly, you already have that; sorry! I don't recall seeing something like that and my ISP provides static addresses so didn't hit that issue. My approach when I used to have these issues was to have a cron job that took care of that :-/. -- Evilham From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 10:59:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D45A363D21 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0jJW3r7sz3d0X for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from x1 (unknown [77.109.77.76]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 854B11D4FC25; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:59:50 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Evilham Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd5 link up Message-ID: <20200706105950.6qkk23ba2cgwv6w2@x1> Mail-Followup-To: Evilham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200706093639.64kx6wehespfqgnt@x1> <37ac95e3-8167-4f59-adb0-c87905825e28@yggdrasil.evilham.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <37ac95e3-8167-4f59-adb0-c87905825e28@yggdrasil.evilham.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0jJW3r7sz3d0X X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.21 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.976]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.018]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.817]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=wW7S=AR=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:59:56 -0000 On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Evilham wrote: > On dl., jul. 06 2020, Evilham wrote: > > > On dl., jul. 06 2020, Julien Cigar wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I switched from base ppp to mpd5 for my "home" router/firewall > > > (small > > > APU2C4) as ppp consumes a lot of CPU usage (100% CPU in fact) > > > and is > > > unable to use multiple cores for a single PPPOE connection. It > > > works > > > well but as I have a dynamic IP and a DYNDNS-like hostname I > > > don't see > > > any option in mpd5 to execute a script whenever the IP address > > > changes. > > > There is set "iface up-script xxx.sh" but it is called only when > > > the > > > interface changes it's state to UP (first connection). > > > > > > This is my configuration: > > > https://gist.github.com/silenius/0a40de647b48829fd76c5dec098188e3 > > > > > > Any idea if I missed something in the documentation? > > > Otherwise, is there a way to detect an address IP changes in > > > devd? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Julien > > > > Hi Julien, > > > > I actually recently did precisely that as well (also on an APU > > :-)). > > > > This is documented with the port in: > > /usr/local/share/doc/mpd5/mpd28.html > > > > Cheers, and enjoy the *much* better performance :-) > > > Crap, hit send too quickly, you already have that; sorry! > > I don't recall seeing something like that and my ISP provides static > addresses so didn't hit that issue. > > My approach when I used to have these issues was to have a cron job that > took care of that :-/. yes.. I wanted to avoid using cron for that but if there is no other way I'll use it. > -- > Evilham > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k197sm19830343qke.133.2020.07.06.04.18.16 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 06 Jul 2020 04:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0jjg6mwVz2PY5 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:18:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:18:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: "User Questions" Subject: MS Teams & FreeBSD Message-ID: <20200706071808.0b4af7da@scorpio.seibercom.net> Reply-To: "User Questions" Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/TlZgfO9n2AceN/+RhuSxvgV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B0jrM457pz3f4N X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=PoSI9kRJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1042 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.63 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.825]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.956]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.987]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1042:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 11:24:04 -0000 --Sig_/TlZgfO9n2AceN/+RhuSxvgV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A short time ago, we were having a discussion regarding "MS Teams" with FreeBSD. I just noticed this update on the MS Tech Forum regarding this issue. It is not much, but it is a start. I have just spent the afternoon attempting to get the Linux version (binary extracted from an RPM) on FreeBSD thanks to the FreeBSD kernels "Linux Compatibility" emulation. I found that a large number of shared objects were not present, so I copied them over from a Linux installation that I have which runs the Linux version of Teams. However, even once all the dependencies where satisfied, I still had these errors in the log: /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libm.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.29' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libpixman-1.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libm.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.29' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libpng16.so.16) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libsystemd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.28' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libsystemd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.26' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libsystemd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.30' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libsystemd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.27' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libsystemd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libgnutls.so.30) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libbsd.so.0) /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/share/teams/teams: /lib64/libc.so.6: vers= ion `GLIBC_2.26' not found (required by /usr/home/cam/Downloads/teams/usr/s= hare/teams/./libp11-kit.so.0) I think a possible solution here would be to release a Linux portable version (unpack and execute) this would allow users of other non Debian or Red Hat based systems such as Arch to use Teams, and it would more than likely work for the various BSD Unix's as well Cheers, Cam --=20 Jerry --Sig_/TlZgfO9n2AceN/+RhuSxvgV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl8DCHAACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQ1OQf/UMOSZcITfJNMDB02jIQJeEEvpfGA/eww+ShM9uJg8s7tva/VbBR9pN0t llD6woaQ23VkPgdCpceT2K40ccmqIbowGhjaqtBrQ2lEc5RFJQJ3e7nL9iCvSULs jrDSMopHiMCDydvW4FfnoW9yWEgPoc+rY8/j1kefDDkYi1caukQwmZksIdL0cEmI QOj4MHnVxSEcYt051y7SJgrXbr9jHltD85zQn/dPiTW/aF8/RnDTUMf2LrpZJE3V D5SIhQDe7z1FuyFo+EDn+phN9jXAqtIcYZ9rIzDxCtM0U0yua6MoWLpWXbX2vq0C X2qV9Uwx0A4xW48r1WRdLqW2Z3+rhg== =OoWi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/TlZgfO9n2AceN/+RhuSxvgV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 6 13:16:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75B83675CF for ; 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My ISP has turned on ipv6 and I am trying to get it setup. Ipfilter firewall is not processing the 2 rules to pass in the ISP's neighborhood and router adverts. pass in quick family inet6 proto ipv6-icmp all icmp-type neighadvert keep state pass in quick family inet6 proto ipv6-icmp all icmp-type routerad keep state pass in quick on em0 proto ipv6-icmp from any to any keep state If anyone has this working would you please share with me how your doing it? 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Over the years I've tried many different tools and never found one that was exactly what I wanted. In my experience most hex editors either (1) do not work well with 4GB+ files or (2) require the user to learn a curses interface and are not scriptable. So I ended up creating a hex editor with some nice features: 1. prompt interface with command history (with libedit) 2. scriptable interface with a flexible command language 3. no glitches on huge files -- no reading until user requests 4. fully functional insert and delete 5. multi-level backup and restore 6. ability to dump generic file descriptors 7. work in hexadecimal and with 64 bit file offsets by default 8. BSD 3-clause license 9. and more... If interested, please check out the project at https://www.hexpeek.com or send e-mail to hexpeek@hexpeek.com. hexpeek is known to work on Debian, CentOS, FreeBSD, and Cygwin and is expected to work on any recent POSIX-like system. I look forward to improving hexpeek based on community feedback. Please let me know what features you are looking for in a hex/metadata editor. About the author: visit https://www.resiliware.com for more about me. 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No new= issues with 12.1. Care to carve=0A>> out some details?=0A>> =0A>> "The D= octor via freebsd-questions" skrev 6. jul= i 2020 kl. 23:51:=0A>> =0A>> Has anyone experienced any e-mail MTA issues= since 12.1 upgradew.=0A>> =0A>> I have restart the e-mail software every= 6 to 12 hours.=0A>> =0A>> --=0A>> Member - Liberal International This is= doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca=0A>> Yahweh, Queen & country!N= ever Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!=0A>> https://www.= empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b=0A>> A full cup must be carried steadily.= -English proverb=0A>> _______________________________________________=0A= >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>> https://lists.freebsd.= org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>> To unsubscribe, send any mail= to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> Here is what I a= m seeing in the daily output logs=0A> =0A> +pid 67012 (exim-4.93.0.4-15),= jid 0, uid 26: exited on signal 11=0A[snip]=0A=0AWhat does the /var/log/= exim/mainlog say? I guess the lines referred here is from /var/log/messag= es? Have you tried running exim in debug mode?=0A=0ARegards,=0ADaniel Lys= fjord=0A=0A*ps: no idea why, but my mail client replied directly instead = of to the list From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 7 18:51:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28BD349DA1 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B1Wk533qtz403h for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.114.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1McZfZ-1kTK1W1wZp-00czrR; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:50:51 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:50:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Lysfjord Cc: Daniel Lysfjord via freebsd-questions , "The Doctor" Subject: Re: Quirky exim e-mail performance since 12.1-p6 Message-Id: <20200707205050.821f939a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200707123645.GB40132@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20200706215033.GD50189@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <4169b753480d86f873d6ec964c876802@smokepit.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:pY9rM/LoaCn5Zxh/boazexJyYnkJ+StBZR39m16WRoYS8Utfgm8 YNMZ6uFwQd+HXumOUpL1NIaXAiKuComieUcLKTxXiJjCRQQ5PSajI58F8uw+RXGqOF1gLfA Jz0w3xyfPFsD7AZ6AAmJLbf6sP7Pjg6tbvYfNy0RlBij6+FHHbYEY9SqX4Pt10xuguRFRn1 HANwC4MtqN9WrBjnt1bSQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Cu2smIAh66Q=:OJAnyxcUsYoLWPRyWJUfQG w9UPTOKZIggf5QddBtZVkh9sphDt+yO+CL67DqRek1ziLQM0ZF8A88bamjxPAY5lq4/1L5ySY B02xMGd/Xf5gncsotnwR2u4tgOfAJsVd4TDE3qTOZy08+Z1SafBFu/blwjREBRtrolA2f70lb NCkYZEDbK0qiLsslCO0NBp36RKTAzgT8mR9V5V2g3P4fAjnkRSkbLhSmpHHLxpL1aTXg8vCcT M3Mo/teLynEx4JhqFO9t+GYkizuWl13dptvgOIhJoTxlKeyF46huYh9qxIuokxUwC2WkmmJHT PGCW6YFRmpnVVk9TmQanp1fz2th9azf4bttgdL+YgTTatnE7wv2wDmIZ2T8nJDfJQqRqyOfTS ypEle4+WwYRxQaFBpwaoszV79z+emFegFCkeYJvW2XkjejkpMylRkNOMJ5Zxp7UxwnBdunSMs VlIaX/SxZRyDiRSW8Aho7pr9CtXMEbmP3yHsVWuxKC3AlgUZYaxLbcgKLJG0m6VKJ1duy0u8v UcHt9QJfsKMvy2ihlwmOQYlK9+Xay+eNn4QWf13exC2eQPF37u0sJUD3JGRROIt/acm7qRV09 e0AFk6QFgYLfgftZQw55+thS4UqwAWtuTz075OA6cyoIbLoz6vnR7A9PyABQyKtC7vD93vgwF YPXyxUsso4zEqRhD1PRAZByGRnZx5HpChtsMOHfgNv58GebTcHPdNYP62REHiNURjPIPT559h qfN9JzgcvnxWwacW9g2/RH0McXZRN63PRUiCbjAxk3ZQIXCPkR/o0GL/9Yv4eOcW03+MeT9JJ uWC5AP9lYn+K3uWOkT6vgQTwGPG4KLlnWp3pgjKDlQ9FOnPXdS5sIgD1BkXGO/+Ps6dlH+s X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B1Wk533qtz403h X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.01 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.12.114.170:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.22)[-0.217]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.09)[0.088]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.26)[-0.261]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:51:26 -0000 On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:47:41 +0000, Daniel Lysfjord via freebsd-questions wrote: > *ps: no idea why, but my mail client replied directly instead of to the list See the Reply-To: header, and if your mail client has multiple reply mechanisms (reply, reply to sender, reply to mailing list, reply to all). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 15:53:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF562366380 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com (mail-il1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B23kg5Y0Jz4DsT for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id q3so28797059ilt.8 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:53:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PZFzUANRNzj+bWKVRNlI4Z0/e0FyCXD9BhHo0awXNkc=; b=SNBqyjFMYLMJha9gDk7HxXGwd7OXJmvAnFhPoVOFp4AuXp2I+O5Q1fM6+BxfvJz4RO rYpdPyH1ft7v6XKAVkjFQG2fgCFL+JVEJwRhS3fUhqv1WH4thZUNjtdBrLNVolC1rhxf 73wzbWWHONBCLZ9/u8rxWBezQtOCbLVZwQGjfVH6GzRTcC6Us8knGEQiaz4PLUyeson+ 2IpagHtXKL/eD5ZDRTT23dbiL5RWpZk0JWb3NA9U4iS8+Q07IrlOeZSCYt1whYvYWVd8 yu0QAx3aXvJx7utpScD68ZXYf8s3gmzEFbIN2vpxg+Rdf38S1bl/mTo3ukjiAIxtoHzF uegA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PZFzUANRNzj+bWKVRNlI4Z0/e0FyCXD9BhHo0awXNkc=; b=rbskWxpTbsV11eACTrbIn0x5jBZUGgGORWCOnpLgaqhZT/PLyAZ+U9zs2nP1g6vb2s g1cG6ceKRnDpfYy+PEajWCfQE17ApQLpGOnFB2wec/oLpvNpsYmGNFJLOhehCCXw/nZn Tfhg1OvMToUM/22FQRswxH13ceBbLX4WeC3/ZoQWWI/8T52QZbMCShOWXRTL8lBlGPYK vqhZqwWEO6iq1IQ1PCtYGWvVUijqzDDdJmPpeVxfzhOVoWSB8wntkLCK7Zoysj3L1gZB hnOOBSUteD+D6uaj/LHLwfhPwxk1UdIJQzgfUuebKVuwyf/T5SftqrHbvl1gkyu3nXe9 pqwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533vpf4P95r51jHcO6YMBYm8XK6OuyCDCwMP3G65yxyLyOPL6+ED 7EurKPyKT1P/Xd+d41KZDXaIXE0PTZBHvWA3MvqT/Ddi X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/ZceT3RMQnTbEtSV57e7GEBtrWbQTkNMtXTIlbecCyZEJ/FUPZk/evyhTncBvuweMfmoLAK3ITWIs+O3ysIU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:926:: with SMTP id o6mr42783096ilt.239.1594223625962; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:53:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:3b52:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: IPv6 pinging from a jail does not work To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B23kg5Y0Jz4DsT X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=SNBqyjFM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.942]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.037]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::131:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.55)[0.547]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:53:48 -0000 Hello, I've got a FreeBSD 12.1 system with a bridge connecting epair to a physical interface, this setup works fine for IPv4 which can do everything, but IPv6 won't ping out. On the host I've got an IPv6 address on the bridge and am using that for the jail's gateway. Suggestions? Thanks. Dave. 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My Linux partitions are ext4 simply because ext4 is now the default under Linux. However, ext4 is not supported directly by FreeBSD. As a result, writing to those filesystems from FreeBSD is painfully slow (via fuse). It is notable that ext2fs is directly supported by FreeBSD. ext4 supports huge files (in terra bytes) and filesystems (in thousands of peta bytes). But very few people have such files/filesystems. At least, don't - my use case is max 64 GB file, max 500 GB filesystem. So I wonder are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Thanks for any inputs, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 19:00:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F6236AD29 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic301-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.129.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B27tX1DJQz4W4B for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: Dt2Q8DkVM1m8spwfbB.hP5WGQXxm.5xN_LeDXzLun08sw6hKxX8z4wqbwGlHMdf 2uuHQMVGTX7pPRP20jhkTEwYg2IdfkUAnnPu2.bDdU7dDYEOl7hbBK65lUpD9z.VMQx6Exn1T8gH eIVIVpq38pLKpV83E60Orb72LMmcC_tLZ84RBBZoiUGlLaALGxHNqIyE58QEUV0earCs5vHGDwr8 mwMcgDTsaWbFRUIzJ20dRF160H.xyA2fKtFzlrX.UerWS8qUFNQhgMpPuBzOEU7yVRBNKlSm1wDa aKYfcevpSQZQhaaV94QvOBVmfTSllyQXWcIUyVTJru47F8AU8JIv154TowGtuwLO7Lg94rnLXM1v l3Ptw.i9f_ZvPlhrGWxCpHTlH4JB8i9uhcQaJmBXwBOGWlc9DkYYafk0Z2xnVv0DIC1XveRI2zH1 rPNRbj6PvSf8YXc1Hk.Kxuehku7YfYNkUgxuO9Y.Srkh9vQFLCxhnZ3.gKVjHB_6wfr2KIzvYtQy HoCne6w38pKLzaa.CrIiTOGiD.9eQ8of.ERCJVCxUI2Lpas2HpJr5Jutqd8Sfbv0sUdKlaR8R4HB t4p3LO6PVU9Dt50v68hWAWsNtXSqYs_XF7t_3u7jpBXC4_qUMFPvg_Y_eNJQy0m5daHyPjTFAj8. vRMfWX.Cm_kFldK6ObUYCJ7BbwPuqIVYBS7eRdFoe.jPdA_4TmXFzyyIGxbI.cwmBxWqLvaBK1W. 5i292X2KdY8LTBFYYSmKqXSSd2mt0oihUDzhwY5HPaqMJTS6ksJ_9l0Eqp3_dhlbCAgcIAjJ5PLQ b1l8.XhALDWfkvq_2UDNxYTt_80fdsLUftj2EFpR3RjxTQ701jDQLdkzBay47Vm8A9agrMd0DAas tbSloUN5Lrq9mLts6Um1VWK3062M8dJ6heMzZ4fmq390IiUFoh0hlCvi6VchAPydmiGpfeqTbPbO J9As.gS22Iwk17F6heYcjIWInnoM0RsX1RO5bu4d2QCUyVGo7eukDIHWb7xR9zhiv.Xo8fiX5Z6y tQYHV3uCH5rGSb2cutxf8cB0bUHt.q.0GSS_uG6AgwkuuXLnq0iOMFoKKdgR1qk96jkqEVAHrWBB 0TU.JcQU1jQyr9OL9Zsv7cG.Eo8r75Jw_VQd97Aa_SIwEq5Nh1dg9cL3ueOfE9kPwTdprU7l6Gd8 Hh0ObXLQNfFIIeGfuRfv_6C_f0Y4_xD30ocZQvWnMdK3sARV_uFM310vFCxL3JxV3tFlBB37OTq9 MuU90U9gk9LC48iX_FRl0QRX67WgvZk3C4qjuosPZ_ZyvfixXNs_kU0btPuKdNq6w88InlLmiU65 qY4uZzhx0ZsGRhQwNvpADfd58h_u1ap7F2juV_8OrvIwkLXTnYB_U_Ypxxko3rvC_0AI7CfwnnkD hYVImhD26Ofg- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:00:50 +0000 Received: by smtp424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 961917e21e28df316e93bbf7a6ef89f0; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id u185so18326962pfu.1 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:00:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533v4PXGu7RQx/7tLxXIyY+5RRHGQThnPKxFEAlJcvrh1UvKNqUr V0Oc4eKRfwFHKnEI0aZSEry1tPm0N9q6SR/52Hk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy11j0HRITSYsc3WZ+X1u1ZkDIKZBcu8NUFKKs7O89WeTgiRjMxf6T0xi3nHbKo5bqOl38PTUmja+qE4TdfQPo= X-Received: by 2002:a63:1b4b:: with SMTP id b11mr49225589pgm.243.1594234846938; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:00:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:00:30 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16197 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B27tX1DJQz4W4B X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.73 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.03)[-0.031]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.965]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.038]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.6.129.42:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[74.6.129.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:00:53 -0000 On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 19:10, Manish Jain wrote: > So I wonder are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? ext4 is much more reliable than ext2. I wouldn't use anything else on my root partition on Linux. You can make a vfat (msdos) partition and share it between Linux and FreeBSD, but keep the Linux "/" on ext4. -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 19:40:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B519236CD5E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B28mH6jD9z3Yd1 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:40:30 -0600 References: To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4E8712FC-DEBB-44AB-BC8C-7F54A0F00393@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B28mH6jD9z3Yd1 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.18)[-0.182]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.934]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.111]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:40:32 -0000 On 08 Jul 2020, at 13:00, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions = wrote: > You can make a vfat (msdos) partition=20 vfat? I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? --=20 Updated to be PRCE compatible after 400 years: /(bb|[^b]{2})/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 19:59:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC05636D7DB for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B299n0CpHz3bHP for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.114.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M1INQ-1juvB40j5W-002muZ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:59:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:59:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? 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However, ext4 is not supported directly by FreeBSD. As a > result, writing to those filesystems from FreeBSD is painfully slow (via > fuse). > > It is notable that ext2fs is directly supported by FreeBSD. You are talking about different levels of support - by the kernel or by a kernel module, for read-only or read/write. > ext4 supports huge files (in terra bytes) [...] Prefix: tera. Tera, 10^12 != terra, earth. ;-) > [...] and filesystems (in thousands > of peta bytes). But very few people have such files/filesystems. At > least, don't - my use case is max 64 GB file, max 500 GB filesystem. If you have such a case, ext4 is possibly an option, but there are other filesystems that might be better suited to hold extremely large files withing even larger filesystems. > So I wonder are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? In my experience, ext4 is more stable than ext2, and therefore can cope with potential filesystem problems better. Furthermore, it's more recent, so it's not entirely impossible that ext2 support will be removed sometimes in the future. However, for the case of a "data exchange partition to be used for FreeBSD and Linux in read/write mode", ext2 can definitely be called a lowest common denominator. That doesn't mean it is superior to more recent native filesystems, but for _that_ case, it surely is a valid choice. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? LOL ... there was a time before Windows 10 :) > > > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... 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In the event of a system crash or power failure, such file systems can be brought back online more quickly with a lower likelihood of becoming corrupted." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system ext2 isn't a journaling file system, while ext3 and ext4 are journaling file systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 20:30:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB7436E983 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B29t23DQJz3dfv for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:30:30 -0600 References: <4E8712FC-DEBB-44AB-BC8C-7F54A0F00393@kreme.com> <202007082201.08766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <202007082201.08766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B29t23DQJz3dfv X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.19)[-0.192]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.940]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.26)[-0.257]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:30:36 -0000 > On 08 Jul 2020, at 14:01, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >=20 > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Jul 13:40:30 -0600 > @lbutlr scripsit: >> On 08 Jul 2020, at 13:00, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions = wrote: >>> You can make a vfat (msdos) partition=20 >>=20 >> vfat? I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? > LOL ... there was a time before Windows 10 =F0=9F=98=83 That does not answer the question. FAT based filesystems that are not xFAT have severe limitations on = filenames and/or file sizes that make them pretty much non-starters for = sharing a file system between different OS versions. --=20 The Salvation Army Band played and the children drunk lemonade and the morning lasted all day, all day. And through an open window came like Sinatra in a younger day pushing the town away From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 21:03:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB56736F1B9 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from vie01a-dmta-at52-1.mx.upcmail.net (vie01a-dmta-at52-1.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2BbZ43hGz3xBk for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from [172.31.216.41] (helo=vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50) by vie01a-dmta-at52.mx.upcmail.net with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtHDc-0005Z1-7B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:03:04 +0200 Received: from t61.lan ([85.126.97.210]) by vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50 with SMTP @ mailcloud.upcmail.net id 0l332300v4YLlkt0Bl342B; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:03:04 +0200 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=O6RJhF1W c=1 sm=2 tr=0 cx=a_idp_f a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:117 a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=BnKwzfmLs7tkUX_nZTEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? 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I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? > > LOL ... there was a time before Windows 10 =F0=9F=98=83 >=20 > That does not answer the question. >=20 > FAT based filesystems that are not xFAT have severe limitations on filena= mes and/or file sizes that make them pretty much non-starters for sharing a= file system between different OS versions. And yet vfat is used on most usb sticks I've seen in the wild - for good or= bad. >=20 >=20 >=20 =2D-=20 Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing w= ith the NSA, CIA ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 21:41:59 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C13356229 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2CSP5q0Tz479M for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:41:55 -0600 References: <202007082201.08766.dr.klepp@gmx.at> <202007082303.03792.dr.klepp@gmx.at> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <202007082303.03792.dr.klepp@gmx.at> Message-Id: <0C5AC990-346B-4D98-B4E6-E5242CF50700@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2CSP5q0Tz479M X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.48)[0.484]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.940]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.61)[-0.611]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:41:59 -0000 > On 08 Jul 2020, at 15:03, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >=20 > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Jul 14:30:30 -0600 > @lbutlr scripsit: >>=20 >>> On 08 Jul 2020, at 14:01, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 8 Jul 13:40:30 -0600 >>> @lbutlr scripsit: >>>> On 08 Jul 2020, at 13:00, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions = wrote: >>>>> You can make a vfat (msdos) partition=20 >>>>=20 >>>> vfat? I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? >>> LOL ... there was a time before Windows 10 =F0=9F=98=83 >>=20 >> That does not answer the question. >>=20 >> FAT based filesystems that are not xFAT have severe limitations on = filenames and/or file sizes that make them pretty much non-starters for = sharing a file system between different OS versions. >=20 > And yet vfat is used on most usb sticks I've seen in the wild - for = good or bad. And that is relevant to a shared file system between two Uses how, = exactly? --=20 "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "Wuh, I think so, Brain, but wouldn't anything lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?" 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[65.25.51.0]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v28sm1248323qkv.31.2020.07.08.15.14.45 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5F064555.20908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:14:45 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Ernie Luzar Subject: What does ip6addrctl do Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2DBH20X8z48ZX X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=WtKRmXwv; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luzar722@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luzar722@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.68 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.68)[-0.678]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[freebsd.org,gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[65.25.51.0:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.984]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.016]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82f:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:14:48 -0000 In /etc/defaults/rc.conf I see this ip6addrctl_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable default address selection ip6addrctl_verbose="NO" # Set to YES to enable verbose configuration messages ip6addrctl_policy="AUTO" # A pre-defined address selection policy # (ipv4_prefer, ipv6_prefer, or AUTO) There is no documentation included in the base release about this. Is it still available? If so where to look to find out what it does? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 22:19:48 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A252356ECB for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2DJ31t1sz48dp for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.114.170]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N6c0W-1kxxqL3Sdq-0182dD; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:19:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:19:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ernie Luzar Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: What does ip6addrctl do Message-Id: <20200709001942.a30e0844.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5F064555.20908@gmail.com> References: <5F064555.20908@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/fh1a30kQ4nnB9Sf7jrE4WzecTuIVsnyyYjsRtZPP3hRY1+5x6/ 7iVHV59HK6LYADglpgwTfl/g2EE+8Zt/OcZkffxjtsRe43KiECnRr1EtrYRptiS8AcQWts3 bCVIcWwnN65TzzMf5WS3nYCyjM0LDhcG+8OyWHyeClsg4njXv40jd5RQIwFoaXGvvRARjO7 RReDA5VOaVlPmDB7qOzNg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Nqp5pnk/HBs=:Ac6eTVUysw7U36DT17Vn/x hYlwiVk+8L3kzmRBGmvUo1ZuQ7/LYSTaKqqbijKSNIYqggNUmjt6yBE5c5aNwdDgJd+l4FgdH ZxMT/LpvbfhHvnMlcToEsn5DT+ckPKru9RH+7Nw6zZDbtw0z03dGzYqrH7hHAL1kEvCZsRrPt 0gb+RsAZy7aNuzrLw54uH2bp/ljApAnorWsD3Ctu7gUCD4CNTcP3RY9RXoR1e/wWGJJGbqxsd SjtIRl3FJzB3TZyUjxnBz9DqsgwW7jjJ1qLMiO1UcjhmweTB6tnCOe62OM7i5Wde76Yy4AGlD A0gCG1BHKJ5pdunEws6epUubPHlfudgnrUpjkQ8Nh49kWxIJQ7SDwyhVn/ttCguRNRJj1cnSX ypXSjeQfqPkHsvVVasJ5nCk+/u5el0qea9VMeHjMiUd8Gwo/Fqx4jySUlloz6DFBMI6hUaU4M v9kju7FskuXDFcxv1bKqYfZH9BUStFQ0HT1+DG476oWlE6Ru+gvaczJ4R1pkP7dkPL2pZH6vo W4WT7jIiLuoFIdBORVunKokZHDVW+k1j4Xu+TJGMQSd5b4Wdr7lxVsyPx53Kj5sV+ssp9C7H+ zuE5iwNZCK3uVIkCe1zAHx7vo4Fj9El+Qyhu6JCVHdi2N6g1EZxYx37SflJoNGhEHfcmVD2FD p7cqqUjWkoBUEMJ0N5QJLZGayoZ92GgTMAbk8gfdqJAYqIeiYmowYJDEDmc7bHQTXnakNgo2B mLAGX3w5x0kqw44CvxbyKARJyjXTWTqQo/5zfrkaZO7XcpqnLSuVoWw1ptbaiN//FehcmeIpu /enyOGMtns55T1b6mR1a7xsFdB/8JsTcghNiIFKydH4jz6IgnUQHbgYV34kCP8MA81KHNMC X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2DJ31t1sz48dp X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.45 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.37)[-0.371]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.12.114.170:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.794]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.79)[-0.788]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:19:48 -0000 On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:14:45 -0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > In /etc/defaults/rc.conf I see this > > ip6addrctl_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable default address selection > ip6addrctl_verbose="NO" # Set to YES to enable verbose configuration > messages > ip6addrctl_policy="AUTO" # A pre-defined address selection policy > # (ipv4_prefer, ipv6_prefer, or AUTO) > > > There is no documentation included in the base release about this. Is it > still available? If so where to look to find out what it does? Take the part before the underscore and check: % whatis ip6addrctl ip6addrctl(8) - configure address selection policy for IPv6 and IPv Then see "man 8 ip6addrctl" for details: NAME ip6addrctl - configure address selection policy for IPv6 and IPv4 [...] DESCRIPTION The ip6addrctl utility manages the policy table of source and destination address selection for outgoing IPv4 and IPv6 packets. When ip6addrctl is invoked without an argument or with a single argument show, it prints the content of the policy table currently installed in the kernel. [...] HISTORY The ip6addrctl utility first appeared in the KAME IPv6 protocol stack kit. The original command name was addrselect, but it was then renamed to the current one so that the name would describe its function well. The manual page dating says "September 25, 2001", so it's not exactly new. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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This option is no longer required to load ipv6 rules. I interrupt this to mean that the ipv6_ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf6.rules" line in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is obsolete and should be removed before RELEASE 13.0 is published for users to use. 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Cc: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16197 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2Dlt1FLsz49j6 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.63 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.941]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.012]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.282]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.6.128.83:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[74.6.128.83:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:40:29 -0000 On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 20:40, @lbutlr wrote: > > On 08 Jul 2020, at 13:00, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions wrote: > > You can make a vfat (msdos) partition > > vfat? I don't know that one, did you mean xFAT? RTFM. https://manpages.debian.org/testing/mount/mount.8.en.html -- Ottavio Caruso From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 23:14:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ACC3584B4 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2FVv2b7fz4CBF for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:14:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: <7e89c45e-aaae-1b42-18a5-1c45ec07b145@holgerdanske.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:14:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2FVv2b7fz4CBF X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.41 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.42)[0.416]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.54)[0.541]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.56)[0.555]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:14:16 -0000 On 2020-07-08 11:10, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have a dual boot computer with FreeBSD and Linux. > > My Linux partitions are ext4 simply because ext4 is now the default > under Linux. However, ext4 is not supported directly by FreeBSD. As a > result, writing to those filesystems from FreeBSD is painfully slow (via > fuse). > > It is notable that ext2fs is directly supported by FreeBSD. > > ext4 supports huge files (in terra bytes) and filesystems (in thousands > of peta bytes). But very few people have such files/filesystems. At > least, don't - my use case is max 64 GB file, max 500 GB filesystem. > > So I wonder are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? > > > Thanks for any inputs, > Manish Jain See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 If you want to get inside your Linux root filesystem from FreeBSD on a dual-boot system, your choices would appear to be FUSE, or reinstalling Linux and manually partitioning with ext2. I recently learned that FreeBSD supports ext2 and have formatted a USB HDD with ext2 for this reason, but have yet to test it with FreeBSD. OpenZFS is available and works on both platforms. But, I have not tried moving ZFS devices between platforms. I expect the crux would be limiting the feature flags to the common subset. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 8 23:43:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B484C358DCD for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2G8p3Ht1z4DqH for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 906f7bdf (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7e89c45e-aaae-1b42-18a5-1c45ec07b145@holgerdanske.com> From: Ihor Antonov Message-ID: <585af9d4-7218-9755-6a5e-e37354913873@antonovs.family> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:43:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7e89c45e-aaae-1b42-18a5-1c45ec07b145@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2G8p3Ht1z4DqH X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.05)[-1.049]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.16)[-0.163]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.971]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:43:40 -0000 > See: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 Apart from some edge cases the only meaningful difference is jornaling. Ext2 is simple FS and does not have a journal, ext3 and ext4 can have journal (and they usually do by default) but it can be disabled. They all are backwards compatible. You should be able to read ex2 volume with ext3/4 driver. But not sure if the other way works. It would be an interesting exercise to try to disable all possible features on ext4 volume (like journal) and try to read it in read-only mode with ext2 driver (but there is a high chance it might not work) > I recently learned that FreeBSD supports ext2 and have formatted a USB > HDD with ext2 for this reason, but have yet to test it with FreeBSD. > OpenZFS is available and works on both platforms.  But, I have not tried > moving ZFS devices between platforms.  I expect the crux would be > limiting the feature flags to the common subset. OpenZFS does work across Linux/FreeBSD as long as you use common subset of features. I had to re-format my Linux ZFS drive recently because it had feature@dnodesize enabled, and FreeBSD does not support this feature yet. -------------- Ihor Antonov From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 00:22:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C09E359D03 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR06-AM7-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am7eur06olkn2016.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.16.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2H1X1sz9z4G2g for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=V/WQhZIVerR766ZbvfKjZZwRpUqnkqkCavkQofoCtLdpv/vKCPrb3IF+DHPocm8R0vWomfYyjyY7MCURSiU838RTQlPASnX+KD+lzMaBPplCNr5T/QDzKsJjHIb88peg5k3SYDXU4DegWpEg09WkjRUovEOYy9xJhyvoyHetPwBktjPVQ79EJ96IVNAxOP57ze1blEJ4h1ol3Okv7ZjXF2VIIGkFzVKWYDIP9SzQJM3GQbQVze2Qx+wB8aN7y+HMgt02P787eqXB5I1Sl7OsAk7De5amBEksEGqdwpQ/EQoV96OOagRiELmR1gcBxO++35a/eW4qTlhSN2TacL80DQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=jThs3tLVJS3ADE+xxQFAhIB0cYZ1vLgw4kBLds4odxM=; b=jKHf68cppLoHrWsV4ZNgyd5O9rRIOrQLAL/24AI4fyZvp8NEflzT/rvwKqRujFu6z18IMvVDd/Km1EcRdN8BIf5etrT31ooxXbnFtoQw2KXaMI6tAPYT0OVyXDAXRB8rJtawbdh4oWNH54oEqpbgmbYiqpoFfOBlOEhJi1OwscbnDUMmUS/OWciJC/6Z/6Tlko52ZabWoJ8f81PfUvq32o9SJkPQFj8a/jtLVxqfdOIqH+uPXkb7zJB/Lre5K2GTzyOLxmqm2RIOSOplx3T3lF3brso/3w4rUxNN8sNR54lPiHVbf+8FFx59rzqpIgpLnUunkxbU3M06SmR5IHhFEw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=none; dmarc=none; dkim=none; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hotmail.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=jThs3tLVJS3ADE+xxQFAhIB0cYZ1vLgw4kBLds4odxM=; b=daL3M1cGCvPKKv4LHjkfAmIfGAMu8VVdkPmBttvDA6wbt9p8ZPF2plLkywZYQ+4aLPu/vcI1uHyFtsY2DmiMb7EKs1+ZESU2Ph31nRJ8eKT6eODOXJ3uqOady87lKqinWdPg/j4AwaF7xOg/gHgrqBb+jKzc30arJQEWcxx2NmNt7a3J4gb86a2CxnNdmLPFgFKM/e8OfvRW4G3a+BV5hBur0Bd1MR0j4LIzaSo9+LsLN500Y6xg4LDRjCVR083PPCKUjVP9Tts0c7zyiNTp6YvH4tLRUPc8eepYHCUPMHTie/dpHb71I7JGvLa7o2jAUuAbbm/Ria28YKYT7PzcOg== Received: from DB8EUR06FT065.eop-eur06.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:e400:fc35::46) by DB8EUR06HT030.eop-eur06.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:e400:fc35::382) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3153.24; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:06:31 +0000 Received: from DB8PR06MB6442.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (2a01:111:e400:fc35::49) by DB8EUR06FT065.mail.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:e400:fc35::298) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3174.21 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:06:31 +0000 X-IncomingTopHeaderMarker: OriginalChecksum:EA435B559DB5451C3FC147A972D7B5B8120A43C6DEF4F6E12A028B6E9C4D2ACC; UpperCasedChecksum:DDE03B7AC6ECDA491CE1442CD2382E1B9CBAA9315C06E977DB5B27AF2429693A; SizeAsReceived:8840; Count:48 Received: from DB8PR06MB6442.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d062:cd70:ac5c:f0]) by DB8PR06MB6442.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::d062:cd70:ac5c:f0%5]) with mapi id 15.20.3153.031; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:06:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? 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I have been using ext2fs for ages under FreeBSD. The support is smooth and reliable. All you need to do is kldload linux. ext4 works under FreeBSD via fuse-ext2, which unfortunately is quite slow as on date. ZFS, as you correctly point out, is another option that I will keep in mind in future. 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But not sure > if the other way works. It doesn't : - ) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 01:11:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2A235B986 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 01:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2J5k546kz4K5P for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 01:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.113] (unknown [172.58.139.209]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 575E04E639 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:11:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200708215903.73fe7f9b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <87d3cc8d-7cba-1024-6708-6ffbc3d7b0ab@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:10:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200708215903.73fe7f9b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2J5k546kz4K5P X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.75 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.271]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.29)[0.291]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.139.209:received]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.09)[0.093]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:11:08 -0000 On 7/8/20 2:59 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:40:12 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> I have a dual boot computer with FreeBSD and Linux. >> >> My Linux partitions are ext4 simply because ext4 is now the default >> under Linux. However, ext4 is not supported directly by FreeBSD. As a >> result, writing to those filesystems from FreeBSD is painfully slow (via >> fuse). >> >> It is notable that ext2fs is directly supported by FreeBSD. > > You are talking about different levels of support - by the > kernel or by a kernel module, for read-only or read/write. > > > >> ext4 supports huge files (in terra bytes) [...] > > Prefix: tera. Tera, 10^12 != terra, earth. ;-) > No, no, that was really fun to read! I for one make fun a bit differently, when it is realy large munber of TBs I say: Terror-bytes ;-) Valeri > > >> [...] and filesystems (in thousands >> of peta bytes). But very few people have such files/filesystems. At >> least, don't - my use case is max 64 GB file, max 500 GB filesystem. > > If you have such a case, ext4 is possibly an option, but there > are other filesystems that might be better suited to hold > extremely large files withing even larger filesystems. > > > >> So I wonder are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? > > In my experience, ext4 is more stable than ext2, and therefore > can cope with potential filesystem problems better. Furthermore, > it's more recent, so it's not entirely impossible that ext2 > support will be removed sometimes in the future. > > However, for the case of a "data exchange partition to be used > for FreeBSD and Linux in read/write mode", ext2 can definitely > be called a lowest common denominator. That doesn't mean it is > superior to more recent native filesystems, but for _that_ case, > it surely is a valid choice. > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 02:16:34 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35C635C003 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2KYF1XTdz4N3R for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) X-Originating-IP: 167.179.139.56 Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (167-179-139-56.a7b38b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [167.179.139.56]) (Authenticated sender: ozzmosis@ozzmosis.com) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA97D20004; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1B5E667F1D; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:16:25 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:16:25 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Manish Jain Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Message-ID: <20200709021625.mepwtxrbjk2aiodo@ozzmosis.com> References: <7e89c45e-aaae-1b42-18a5-1c45ec07b145@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20200626 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2KYF1XTdz4N3R X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mail@ozzmosis.com designates 217.70.183.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mail@ozzmosis.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.64 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.964]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ozzmosis.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.006]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[217.70.183.200:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.268]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[217.70.183.200:from]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 02:16:34 -0000 On 2020-07-09 05:36:23, Manish Jain (bourne.identity@hotmail.com) wrote: > On 2020-07-09 04:44, David Christensen wrote: > > I recently learned that FreeBSD supports ext2 and have formatted a USB > > HDD with ext2 for this reason, but have yet to test it with FreeBSD. > > ext2 works very well under FreeBSD. I have been using ext2fs for ages under > FreeBSD. The support is smooth and reliable. All you need to do is kldload > linux. > > ext4 works under FreeBSD via fuse-ext2, which unfortunately is quite slow as > on date. > > ZFS, as you correctly point out, is another option that I will keep in mind > in future. Is sysutils/fusefs-lkl a viable alternative? I've not used it, but it is said to support Ext4, XFS and BTRFS. XFS and BTRFS are supported by most Linux distros. I've used XFS in Ubuntu for many years without any issues. As a last resort there is also exFAT, which is not to be confused with FAT/VFAT/FAT32. The exFAT drivers in Linux and FreeBSD probably don't support chmod/chown file modes but the FreeBSD exFAT driver may be quicker than using Ext2 if speed is all you need. But ultimately ZFS may be the way to go. Notably Ubuntu and its derivatives now has native support for ZFS. With ZFS it might be important to create the pool on the FreeBSD system first because Ubuntu's ZFS feature set could conceivably be ahead of FreeBSD 12.1's, leading to incompatibilities. Also I'm not sure if you need to export the ZFS pool each time you want to use it when you boot the other OS. That could be a hassle if you forget. All that said, I'm curious what the use case of dual-booting Linux and FreeBSD is. I don't imagine that's very common. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 02:49:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E88E35D4FE for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2LHL3nnwz4PBj for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:49:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7e89c45e-aaae-1b42-18a5-1c45ec07b145@holgerdanske.com> <20200709021625.mepwtxrbjk2aiodo@ozzmosis.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:49:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200709021625.mepwtxrbjk2aiodo@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2LHL3nnwz4PBj X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.15 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.660]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.51)[0.508]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.08)[0.078]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[184.105.128.27:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 02:49:36 -0000 On 2020-07-08 19:16, andrew clarke wrote: > With ZFS it might be important to create the pool on the FreeBSD system first > because Ubuntu's ZFS feature set could conceivably be ahead of FreeBSD 12.1's, > leading to incompatibilities. Also I'm not sure if you need to export the ZFS > pool each time you want to use it when you boot the other OS. That could be a > hassle if you forget. I had a similar use-case with zfs-fuse on Debian GNU/Linux several years ago. I recall writing an import script that ran during system startup and an export script that ran during system shutdown. This was prior to systemd and fairly easy to do. But, I have also used the force '-f' option for various zpool(8) commands more often than I care to admit. ;-) David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 04:24:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DB035FBCE for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 04:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mail.foucry.net (fournil.foucry.net [95.217.83.231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2NPH5pfFz4VlL for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 04:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (2a01cb0400bb0900ea6a64fffe0795a1.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr [IPv6:2a01:cb04:bb:900:ea6a:64ff:fe07:95a1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D2C6AA87 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 04:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mithril (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3986D15FA6 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:24:42 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are there any real advantages of ext4 over ext2 ? Message-ID: <20200709042442.GB11633@mithril> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200708222453.43ccdcda@archlinux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200708222453.43ccdcda@archlinux> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2NPH5pfFz4VlL X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=foucry.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net designates 95.217.83.231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.96 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.039]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.634]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[foucry.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.986]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:95.217.0.0/16, country:DE]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 04:24:52 -0000 Le mercredi 08 juil. 2020 22:24:53 (+0200), Ralf Mardorf crit: > "A journaling file system is a file system that keeps track of changes > not yet committed to the file system's main part by recording the > intentions of such changes in a data structure known as a "journal", > which is usually a circular log. In the event of a system crash or > power failure, such file systems can be brought back online more > quickly with a lower likelihood of becoming corrupted." - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system > > ext2 isn't a journaling file system, while ext3 and ext4 are journaling > file systems. Btw, it possible to mount a EXT4 volume as an EXT2 volume. You simppli not have the benefict of journaling. So, my advise should be : use ext4 on Linux system and mount then as ext2 on FreeBSD. If you want EXT4 on FreeBSD use FUSE. -- Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 12:09:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F55369156 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2ZjV2rLjz3gjw for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Sending system mail to remote mail server Message-Id: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:09:32 -0600 To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2ZjV2rLjz3gjw X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.65)[0.655]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.041]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.32)[0.322]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:09:35 -0000 I'd like to setup my machines to send the local system mail to the mail = server (things like the weekly repots to root, cron output, etc), which = means setting up submission on these machines. I don't even know where = to start on this. --=20 and I swear it happened just like this: / a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss, the Gates of Love they budged an inch / I can't say much has happened since / but CLOSING TIME From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 12:14:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544E036943E for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) Received: from srv.fastssdserver.com (srv.fastssdserver.com [162.223.31.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2Zpk3qyBz3gxM for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beepc.ch; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=qnbTYRHPVoMIv49tu253lWknOozckGbp3iev0QJ59oM=; b=GdEM79CZJq5iCDIyL0wRstVX5n FBdMb5JxTv5RL3uMN/92l2kekWAZsvlGy2QxOq0XZgg731CDHhPtjNZkO7A2b6aUZwVNiRD3UQhu9 0RkTVNlkC30MEj3BIPpdYDSXbIFSOh4aTjcmiNWvkmGzaJGyX0CN8FC2MSHWw/1IZwxDtHKdTlsvz UGmLJlFG2YZS6NNRB6IFbHjLi4x1oEfC+52EBsScou98LLG3JL2D/5b6nQhd3D/+dX6Jqdzphrd1o 6SbFdBy8vpy+uIgNKI5g1ov/CBmTb615Th6wlOSLgC29YwBGcbAo+xHEHpG1Q6lhh+RYHzKdPRbW6 4vPbZxog==; Received: from [185.43.245.37] (port=54596 helo=[192.168.1.242]) by srv.fastssdserver.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jtVR9-005dME-3Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:13:59 +0500 Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> From: xpetrl Message-ID: <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:13:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - srv.fastssdserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - beepc.ch X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: srv.fastssdserver.com: authenticated_id: xpetrl@beepc.ch X-Authenticated-Sender: srv.fastssdserver.com: xpetrl@beepc.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2Zpk3qyBz3gxM X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=beepc.ch header.s=default header.b=GdEM79CZ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of xpetrl@beepc.ch designates 162.223.31.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=xpetrl@beepc.ch X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.66 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[beepc.ch:s=default]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.037]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[beepc.ch]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[beepc.ch:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.24)[-0.236]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[xpetrl@beepc.ch]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.889]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:46261, ipnet:162.223.31.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[xpetrl@beepc.ch] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:14:07 -0000 > I'd like to setup my machines to send the local system mail to the mail server (things like the weekly repots to root, cron output, etc), which means setting up submission on these machines. I don't even know where to start on this. > You can start from here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 12:38:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A8B369EA5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [46.19.33.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2bLP1C0Nz3yqy for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2bLF3m7qz12Z1 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:37:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=/EdAVw8P04TYyNEOgxoYMQGRpPo=; b=t2lwB9 5RNBFH28Fs/Vgu2VLxFPPmLQpuANQgOmsZpkrRlJM9V8tR50D+GU0isgeEUPK4F6 guIbEt3Rm4HAqeQnH2s0cZulaU2pp/40YDDzU236KfAasQtpOFTaBmtU4o7v434r zBKdVgJHEn1RAEIiq1Aa81O06lABA21VZWvZw= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B2bLF0Qykz12Z0 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:37:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> In-reply-to: <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:37:55 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2bLP1C0Nz3yqy X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=t2lwB9 5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 46.19.33.155 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.983]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.05)[-1.048]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.57)[-0.565]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:46.19.32.0/21, country:NL] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:38:06 -0000 On dj., jul. 09 2020, xpetrl wrote: >> I'd like to setup my machines to send the local system mail to >> the mail server (things like the weekly repots to root, cron >> output, etc), which means setting up submission on these >> machines. I don't even know where to start on this. >> > You can start from here: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html I'd use dma, it's simple to automate and configure and is in base (unlike ssmtp). man 8 dma should get you started and there is also /usr/share/examples/dma/mailer.conf which tells you how to setup mailer.conf (see man 5 mailer.conf). -- Evilham From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 12:47:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347FE36A068 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2bYB30r8z40bJ for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:47:24 -0600 References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2bYB30r8z40bJ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.71)[-0.712]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.21)[-0.212]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.15)[0.148]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:47:27 -0000 On 09 Jul 2020, at 06:13, xpetrl wrote: >> I'd like to setup my machines to send the local system mail to the = mail server (things like the weekly repots to root, cron output, etc), = which means setting up submission on these machines. I don't even know = where to start on this. > You can start from here: >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html Excellent! That was super simple. Thank you! --=20 In England 100 miles is a long distance. In the US 100 years is a long time From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 12:57:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D6036A1F3 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2bmC5djGz410b for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:56:58 -0600 References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <57FCC468-AC34-44DB-8043-8FA87C2BED30@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2bmC5djGz410b X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.70)[-0.702]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.21)[-0.212]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.15)[0.146]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:57:00 -0000 On 09 Jul 2020, at 06:47, @lbutlr wrote: >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html >=20 > Excellent! That was super simple. Thank you! Oops. I lied. I don't see how to start the service/enable ssmtp. I have = disabled and stopped sendmail but if I send a mail to root on the = command=3Dline I get this in maillog: Jul 9 06:55:12 ns2 sendmail[50730]: 069CtCrh050730: to=3Droot, = ctladdr=3Dlbutlr (1001/1001), delay=3D00:00:00, xdelay=3D00:00:00, = mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D30068, relay=3D[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=3D4.0.0,= stat=3DDeferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] There's nothing for ssmtp listed in service -e --=20 IT WOULD BE A MILLION TO ONE CHANCE, said Death. EXACTLY A MILLION TO ONE CHANCE. 'Oh,' said the Bursar, intensely relieved. 'Oh dear. 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That was super simple. Thank you! > > Oops. I lied. I don't see how to start the service/enable ssmtp. I have disabled and stopped sendmail but if I send a mail to root on the command=line I get this in maillog: > > Jul 9 06:55:12 ns2 sendmail[50730]: 069CtCrh050730: to=root, ctladdr=lbutlr (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30068, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] > > There's nothing for ssmtp listed in service -e It's not a service, and did you follow the instructions in ssmpt's pkg-message? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 13:16:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E93436A7DC for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com (mail-wm1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2cBX2BXgz42HG for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id o2so1767273wmh.2 for ; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:16:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QzOSVdkqQpt+MrThaWHrhGrixBQd59HaBGE5aNuhvq8=; b=By5zrNfSGeXneVRZRYqX3V69ZoDRirVyZq+OTEXZr66h06fu2mp93k4p3X9jaebqTy gJGbwFtNk6uYfG6jRLawjISSpRqoWvf2y6WoxLef2TxfAh25/SZ7lmObcslfSbet4ZDl KRsAz6U+e/fB6q54jEDFZiucS9MBYkgpA/cC8JRA3VKgoQaCdWTay/0N7jNEnxzKE9O1 yH4DI6E/3T5rbJl4fbvyPoAtF9084GZMaDT7XXIilPmSIjdakvmd0zMBHnx2ynZXDF0q N8TFwpd1CcnjKYdETho68dtIcLRedmi6zGIt5q/TC45B0kKHO4dhpD7yakec7l1YIdr7 FO0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532RUq4ftNBWDljFyRtV7iFqFLEeJcSvf3zBgmHWBYzeJVxyv01x yxkrBVJohrbOVvel81dBRJUxCpeR X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw2jqCJ6ZMdI9zsvO2cYpvvWGIEkhFt2o4+V70QQNokgCk705y87j3JvmtbcJ4B/j83uxP+8g== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:44d7:: with SMTP id r206mr13603285wma.7.1594300577581; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.219.100.242]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a12sm5338488wrv.41.2020.07.09.06.16.16 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:16:14 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server Message-ID: <20200709141614.46f9ef01@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <57FCC468-AC34-44DB-8043-8FA87C2BED30@kreme.com> References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> <57FCC468-AC34-44DB-8043-8FA87C2BED30@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2cBX2BXgz42HG X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.72 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.219.100.242:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.044]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.946]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32c:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.273]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 13:16:21 -0000 On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 06:56:58 -0600 @lbutlr wrote: > On 09 Jul 2020, at 06:47, @lbutlr wrote: > >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html > > > > Excellent! That was super simple. Thank you! > > Oops. I lied. I don't see how to start the service/enable ssmtp. I've never used it but AFAIK it's not a daemon, it's a replacement for the sendmail command line interface. The sendmail interface is actually supplied by mailwrapper(8) on FreeBSD, so you could presumably configure that to use ssmtp. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 14:11:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26CE36C743 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2dPd6P0mz45qq for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:05:40 -0600 References: <5FD21AAE-BEB7-4FAB-9F01-70403A59AA7D@kreme.com> <7cc8380a-9d6b-ca3e-4611-fa675bf5983c@beepc.ch> <57FCC468-AC34-44DB-8043-8FA87C2BED30@kreme.com> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3645.0.6.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2dPd6P0mz45qq X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; URIBL_RED(3.50)[yuripv.dev:email]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.988]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_ANON_DOMAIN(0.10)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.01)[1.011]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.746]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:11:02 -0000 On 09 Jul 2020, at 07:01, Yuri Pankov wrote: > @lbutlr wrote: >> On 09 Jul 2020, at 06:47, @lbutlr wrote: >>>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html >>>=20 >>> Excellent! That was super simple. Thank you! >> Oops. I lied. I don't see how to start the service/enable ssmtp. I = have disabled and stopped sendmail but if I send a mail to root on the = command=3Dline I get this in maillog: >> Jul 9 06:55:12 ns2 sendmail[50730]: 069CtCrh050730: to=3Droot, = ctladdr=3Dlbutlr (1001/1001), delay=3D00:00:00, xdelay=3D00:00:00, = mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D30068, relay=3D[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=3D4.0.0,= stat=3DDeferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] >> There's nothing for ssmtp listed in service -e >=20 > It's not a service, and did you follow the instructions in ssmpt's = pkg-message? I missed "make replace" somehow. 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Grimes < >> freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> escreveu: >> >>>> In /etc/defaults/rc.conf I see this >>>> >>>> ipv6_ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf6.rules" >>>> # rules definition file for ipfilter, >>>> # see /usr/src/contrib/ipfilter/rules for examples >>>> >>>> man 8 ipf says >>>> >>>> ipf -6 ipv4 and ipv6 rules are stored in a single table and can be read >>>> from a single file. This option is no longer required to load ipv6 rules. >>>> >>>> I interrupt this to mean that the ipv6_ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf6.rules" >>>> line in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is obsolete and should be removed >>>> before RELEASE 13.0 is published for users to use. >>> Interesting, though I would not remove it. It should be marked as >>> depricated and the /etc/rc.d/ipfilter shell script updated to emit >>> a warning that it is depricated, but it should still be processed >>> to retain backwards compatibility and NOT lock someone out of a >>> system who has just done an upgrade to a newer version. >>> >> Do you mean deprecated or depricated? >> Got confused here! Sorry English is hard for non-native speakers. >> > > It's a typo - he meant deprecated. > This "retain backwards compatibility stuff" can be taken too far backwards. I think ipfilter first can out with NO ipv6 support, then ipv6 was added using 2 rule files, and later yet it was redesigned to use a single rules file. Talking about way back around RELEASE 4.0. Now ipfilter does not work with 2 rules files for a very long time. It's now time to clean up the old ipv6 only stuff so the documentation and /etc/rc.d/ipfilter boot script reflects how it works today. And another thing to point out is the ipfilter source code has been forked and is now under Freebsd maintainership. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 16:43:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C1D36FC29 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from electron.ecohosting.co.uk (electron.ecohosting.co.uk [185.53.59.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2hnB12j1z4Glh for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=milibyte.co.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+77g3JfqZ7rEdQUj05cgELvh+ASTtklnaZIsXBc+bd4=; b=SLHfVCa/dDNgbX4BtAD7+k+Pxw 91qdpPYrCNyqEOwOuq1mmzVYAgT8mo8+dQm+lR3vg10fO7qZCq3gXVb0ZHsvJEKx1+vBjtNq+O5an j0CCxJJPovq9FJRHpPEnsPOmjXB8TD5QI72iTqypyhGnV5p314Zv69nFqUP3q6XlYE78Y3JnHqkWQ juEcJ/DP1RnawZo9KaJQ6Zqhnm/fjGQKq7jzGeQJPdFyCiiguDU3Ngu6uVe4lDuic0AAjGAVi5VAZ Zm2huuHwyUmpbVAZ4hWoTjDg5dnekNZqqozxSLiZOfYwsDzUCFAAgjxezlTZf1jLtjJGOAEF+uoTT M03kOnGA==; Received: from 82-71-56-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk ([82.71.56.121]:17813 helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by electron.ecohosting.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jtZdW-0008pa-47 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:43:02 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=curlew.localnet) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1jtZIN-0003RH-Vp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:21:11 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exim - retry time not reached for any host Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:21:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3256425.vnUxkepd50@curlew> In-Reply-To: References: <2534646.NQNxk83B2J@curlew> <1854884.R0FQcr2YjX@curlew> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - electron.ecohosting.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - milibyte.co.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: electron.ecohosting.co.uk: authenticated_id: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: electron.ecohosting.co.uk: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2hnB12j1z4Glh X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=milibyte.co.uk header.s=default header.b=SLHfVCa/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk designates 185.53.59.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.67 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[milibyte.co.uk:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.946]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[milibyte.co.uk]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[milibyte.co.uk:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.23)[-0.228]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[mailpool@milibyte.co.uk]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12488, ipnet:185.53.56.0/22, country:GR]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[mailpool@milibyte.co.uk] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:43:11 -0000 On Monday, 22 June 2020 22:03:53 BST Daniel Lysfjord via freebsd-questions wrote: > A "truss -ff" on exim would also be interesting, just > to see what it's really doing. I've now managed to get back to trying to sort this problem. Unfortunately I've introduced another variable into the mix because I've had to switch to a different service provider but since I've been seeing the same problem when trying to send through three other providers I don't think the change should be very significant. I've run truss on exim but I'll not post the entire output to the list because the file runs to over 1100 lines and also I don't know what the security implications for my email account might be by posting it publicly I ran truss for both a failed connection with 4.94 and a successful one with 4.93. I don't have enough skills to interpret the entire output but from what I can see both sessions follow a similar pattern until they have read /etc/ssl/cert.pem 3216: open("/etc/ssl/cert.pem",O_RDONLY,0666) = 9 (0x9) 3216: fstat(9,{ mode=-rw-r--r-- ,inode=471370,size=801055,blksize=131072 }) = 0 (0x0) 3216: mmap(0x0,135168,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 34378272768 (0x8011ad000) 3216: read(9,"##\n## ca-root-nss.crt -- Bundl"...,131072) = 131072 (0x20000) After about 40 lines reading /etc/ssl/cert.pem exim 4.94 continues with: 3216: read(9,0x8011adec0,131072) = 0 (0x0) 3216: close(9) = 0 (0x0) 3216: issetugid() = 0 (0x0) 3216: setitimer(0,{ 0.000000, 300.000000 },{ 0.000000, 0.000000 }) = 0 (0x0) 3216: mmap(0x0,24576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 34385039360 (0x801821000) 3216: mmap(0x0,24576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 34385063936 (0x801827000) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: getpid() = 3216 (0xc90) 3216: write(7,"\^V\^C\^A\^A%\^A\0\^A!\^C\^Ck"...,298) ERR#57 'Socket is not connected' After this it goes on to write to /var/spool/exim/db/wait-remote_auth_smtp and various log files before terminating But 4.93 continues with: 88001: read(9,0x801169f00,131072) = 0 (0x0) 88001: close(9) = 0 (0x0) 88001: issetugid() = 0 (0x0) 88001: setitimer(0,{ 0.000000, 300.000000 },{ 0.000000, 0.000000 }) = 0 (0x0) 88001: mmap(0x0,24576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 34384932864 (0x801807000) 88001: mmap(0x0,24576,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON,-1,0x0) = 34384957440 (0x80180d000) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: getpid() = 88001 (0x157c1) 88001: write(7,"\^V\^C\^A\^A%\^A\0\^A!\^C\^C\M-`"...,298) = 298 (0x12a) The successful 4.93 job then continues to negotiate a SSL connection and send the email. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 9 21:41:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0A2356C7C for ; 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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[shaw.ca:dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.59.134.0/25]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.040]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[64.59.134.13:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[shaw.ca:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[shaw.ca,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.46)[-0.457]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.59.134.13:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 21:41:52 -0000 ssmtp is NOT a service, it is an executable that runs when a message is sent and terminates on completion. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "@lbutlr" > To: "freebsd-questions" > Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 6:56:58 AM > Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server > On 09 Jul 2020, at 06:47, @lbutlr wrote: >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html >> >> Excellent! That was super simple. Thank you! > > Oops. I lied. I don't see how to start the service/enable ssmtp. I have disabled > and stopped sendmail but if I send a mail to root on the command=line I get > this in maillog: > > Jul 9 06:55:12 ns2 sendmail[50730]: 069CtCrh050730: to=root, ctladdr=lbutlr > (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30068, > relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by > [127.0.0.1] > > There's nothing for ssmtp listed in service -e > > > > -- > IT WOULD BE A MILLION TO ONE CHANCE, said Death. EXACTLY A MILLION TO > ONE CHANCE. 'Oh,' said the Bursar, intensely relieved. 'Oh dear. > What a shame.' --Eric > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 10 02:32:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2339635C3EA for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 02:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2xrx642vz3yR1 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 02:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 54458 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2020 02:32:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=d4b7.5f07d32a.k2007; bh=TU7ZZJV3CkqBXWzpneFMIQtiqtx9A4ePCZPh9iG0PFc=; b=kZ4KeBPjHMf/yQdo4h1CqFW14/45LqAsHBbTS4NmF9MNfR0BmVRb0Sef3OSzvGQ9UiWymLZhvZqFPlx76h3XvCNhH5DEjL4wKk+LCW76A/6Mmfo7+cmHwiPvSNV8RPntsAoDEz+Wlmz7twN0Hdc5obb9nnmSsVfFB1aGae5MNT+Us/+HXzjMX926tE9SZyC297FKuU9h7mKOufTi0rUvVpfEuGUCuI8oAze176gNqUpvauQKHms1hqscOAnPTld5 Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 10 Jul 2020 02:32:10 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id C4B581C78C9B; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: 9 Jul 2020 22:32:16 -0400 Message-Id: <20200710023216.C4B581C78C9B@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: contact@evilham.com Subject: Re: Sending system mail to remote mail server using dma In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B2xrx642vz3yR1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=d4b7.5f07d32a.k2007 header.b=kZ4KeBPj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.001]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com:s=d4b7.5f07d32a.k2007]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com:dkim]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.338]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 02:32:19 -0000 In article you write: >>> I'd like to setup my machines to send the local system mail to >>> the mail server (things like the weekly repots to root, cron >>> output, etc), which means setting up submission on these >>> machines. I don't even know where to start on this. >I'd use dma, it's simple to automate and configure and is in base >(unlike ssmtp). Definitely. I've sent it up on all of my FreeBSD VPS to redirect the mail to my submision server. Works great, takes only a few minutes to set up. >man 8 dma should get you started and there is also >/usr/share/examples/dma/mailer.conf which tells you how to setup >mailer.conf (see man 5 mailer.conf). Right. 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:39:01 -0000 I have asked about this on the FreeNAS community forum, but haven't heard anything and appreciate anyone here that can suggest a solution. Yesterday I start getting alerts about a large number of processes from Nagios running in a Jail on FreeNAS. Again this morning over 1000 pkg upgrade processes. The server is running FreeNAS-11.3-U1 with Jail running 11.3-RELEASE-p7. I can see all the processes and kill from the Jail. How could I determine the cause? I was not able to find anything related to pkg in the system log. We haven't made any pkg upgrades since way before this started happening as you can see my FreeNAS install needs to be updated. Perhaps it is trying to tell me I need to? 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Does it work for anything? > > To narrow it down a bit to something useful, why don't you do the usual > steps, such as sharing your network configuration and current IPv6 > routing table, the results of pinging your IPv6 gateway, etc., etc. > > rc.conf ifconfig_vtnet0="DHCP" ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6="inet6 accept_rtadv" gateway_enable="YES" ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" :/etc#ifconfig -a vtnet0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu options=6c07bb ether f2:3c:92:bc:54:37 inet6 fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet6 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 prefixlen 64 autoconf inet xxx.xxx.33.221 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xx.x.xx.xx media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T status: active nd6 options=23 :/etc#netstat -nr6 Routing tables Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 ::1 link#2 UH lo0 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 2600:3c02::/64 link#1 U vtnet0 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:1 link#3 UHS lo0 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::/10 ::1 UGRS lo0 fe80::%vtnet0/64 link#1 U vtnet0 fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 link#2 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHS lo0 fe80::%epair0a/64 link#4 U epair0a fe80::ad:7fff:fe8d:820a%epair0a link UHS lo0 fe80::%epair1a/64 link#5 U epair1a fe80::c0:11ff:fee6:990a%epair1a link#5 UHS lo0 ff02::/16 ::1 UGRS lo0 ipf.rules # There is fixed bug about ipv6 and keep state not working together # This fixed bug is not included in 12.1. # No rules with ipv6 and keep state allowed at this time. pass out quick inet6 proto icmp6 from any to any # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server (dns). # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file pass out quick on vtnet0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state pass out quick on vtnet0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state # Allow access to ISP's specified DHCP server pass out quick on vtnet0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state # Allow out all pings (icmp) to public Internet pass out quick on vtnet0 proto icmp from any to any keep state # Block and log everything that's trying to get out. # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. block out log quick on vtnet0 all # allow in ISP dhcp traffic pass in quick on vtnet0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state # pass in ipv6 pings. no ipv6 with keep state option allowed pass in log quick proto icmp6 all # Block and log all remaining traffic coming into the firewall. # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. block in log quick on vtnet0 all Anything else you want to see post the commands to use. 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[65.25.51.0]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n28sm9465959qtf.8.2020.07.10.14.07.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5F08D889.8080708@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:07:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, david Mehler Subject: Re: trouble setting up ipv6 References: <5F088CAE.2090400@gmail.com> <5F08A3BA.8060401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B3Qbc52FLz3gKt X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aNOyqcDG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luzar722@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::732 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luzar722@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.674]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[65.25.51.0:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.978]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::732:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[freebsd.org,gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 21:07:25 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > On 7/10/20 13:22, Ernie Luzar wrote: snip >> > Notable largely for the complete lack of a default route. > > Consider setting your gateway explicitly instead of depending on router > advertisements: > > ipv6_defaultrouter="2600:3c02::dead:dead:dead:beef" Put this ipv6_defaultrouter= in rc.conf? > > or whatever that address is. Otherwise you'll need to figure out what's > broken with router advertisements on your network. My quick read of > your ipf.rules file leads me to believe that you're allowing icmp6 > router advertisements in Let me put into my own words what I think your are saying. 1. That the standard inbound icmpv6 routeradvert is suppose to auto populate the host internal ipv6 default router ipv6 address. 2. That the inbound icmpv6 routeradvert my host is receiving from my ISP is incomplete or being incorrectly populated by my ISP. 3. There are also icmp6 neighborsolicit in bound packets that are not being passed by the same rule that passes the inbound icmpv6 routeradvert packets but get blocked by the default block all rule. I am thinking this is a un-reported bug in ipfilter. > >> # pass in ipv6 pings. no ipv6 with keep state option allowed >> pass in log quick proto icmp6 all > Are you logging advertisements based on that? If you don't see them, > you probably need to figure out what's up with your gateway device. Yes I see router advertisements logged in the ipf.log file. fe80::1 -> ff02::1 PR icmpv6 len 40 104 icmpv6 routeradvert/0 IN multicast Get this log line 2222 times per minute I also see the blocked inbound icmpv6 neighborsolicit packets that get logged by the default block all rule for inbound traffic. > > As a quick check, you can also override the routing table with the -g > option to ping6. The ipv6 address auto assigned to the vtnet0 is what is considered as the default route. Am I understanding this correctly? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 10 22:57:38 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB7637630D for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "GoGetSSL RSA DV CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3T2n3GgDz43pF for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=VpkJfkffYaIv0Vdnu5r6JuLOVMcfS/ZUb+0FM6m+d8gdZtFa2ecw38NMBUEAIczfXu P1gBx+mu7yu+E3x4SOhw1HfraB0WBaSn/99A2cMbxo5c6kfeRJQxJwhYhx2IkF6EFl9g CGqlbDyLYqZfqDwCaTrSTEiqlD2Iu4pQKEVORT5YQnjAvHtJBDDGnMdcW3WZpRNZmqis IJZ1JijfYUAp3PJ6eyq7DiFW2CHvy8VqG/G8ravIaqygsaldc4GK4ZEPythj8t3nor+b rZlBCr0mE04Ju55WEQ6nS9TcqimND8cH7VHxB32Q6MfbbUrRpsEXv4DJiXjm0p4ACRl1 V3pA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1594421856; x=1595026656; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=zF2glxPoizh H4IUDxZtJKV5WZUSH+aEE0A/w5VnJPeI=; b=qCFs7XR6Er/FhEPppTbfjaO9vgB ZviuD6sZJ7XEP7AseWs5f3ZKDzVUtmfz1LArMkV7zx/Iw7sBmb9TvCjOKjss/+ak qEAxzOTDIdM5rKLYeM/9cfgZ+0+/bOAG1nHAy2E2scwe8SQEC/MzgF+T3bltY0Zo COoCTVXjjkMVFTvS4lTFI1M7ZBErNlRiw1PcEC4kTicO/egyQIF4LkYopn5lTATK kYP66SvQDFXKrkgCI/NohZhYFuR/Gu/GGiplHQOMG3wtM6vOraRkASz1AFmRnGbm YsIkjjHoYRrOxtUlRhcjZmDyd5Kai9akTGD5WwmpmoUx6g9tQzLEbRkDAMQ== Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:d51c:6dbb:df7f:5e0d] (account jon@radel.com HELO haralson.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 2188981 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:57:35 +0000 Subject: Re: trouble setting up ipv6 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5F088CAE.2090400@gmail.com> <5F08A3BA.8060401@gmail.com> <5F08D889.8080708@gmail.com> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:57:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5F08D889.8080708@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms010305080500050401060604" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B3T2n3GgDz43pF X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=radel.com header.s=20170108.radel header.b=qCFs7XR6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=radel.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jon@radel.com designates 70.184.242.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jon@radel.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.92 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[radel.com:s=20170108.radel]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:70.184.242.160/28]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.020]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[radel.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.21)[0.211]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[radel.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[radel.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.01)[-1.013]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22773, ipnet:70.184.240.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:57:38 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010305080500050401060604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US On 7/10/20 17:07, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Jon Radel wrote: >> On 7/10/20 13:22, Ernie Luzar wrote: > snip >>> >> Notable largely for the complete lack of a default route. >> >> Consider setting your gateway explicitly instead of depending on route= r >> advertisements: >> >> ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2600:3c02::dead:dead:dead:beef" > > Put this ipv6_defaultrouter=3D=C2=A0 in rc.conf? Yes.=C2=A0 The address fe80::1 should work, as you report that below as t= he link local address of the equipment identifying itself as a local router.= >> >> or whatever that address is.=C3=82=C2=A0 Otherwise you'll need to figu= re out >> what's >> broken with router advertisements on your network.=C3=82=C2=A0 My quic= k read of >> your ipf.rules file leads me to believe that you're allowing icmp6 >> router advertisements in > > Let me put into my own words what I think your are saying. > 1. That the standard inbound icmpv6 routeradvert is suppose to auto > populate the host internal ipv6 default router ipv6 address. Yes.=C2=A0 Mostly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 By default.=C2=A0=C2=A0 There are, ways to= turn things off.=C2=A0 https://blogs.infoblox.com/ipv6-coe/why-you-must-use-icmpv6-router-advert= isements-ras/ is a fairly nice description. > > 2. That the inbound icmpv6 routeradvert my host is receiving from my > ISP is incomplete or being incorrectly populated by my ISP. Maybe.=C2=A0 Now I that I look over your config again, it appears that yo= u're getting your ipv6 address just fine via Routing Advertisement (RA).... so why aren't you getting a default gateway address?=C2=A0 I haven't a cl= ue. [But see below for a correction to this.] But I will note that unless you connect to your ISP with only a L2 bridge and have no L3 router of any type, the RA would be generated on a local router. > > 3. There are also icmp6 neighborsolicit in bound packets that are not > being passed by the same rule that passes the inbound icmpv6 > routeradvert packets but get blocked by the default block all rule. I > am thinking this is a un-reported bug in ipfilter. It does sound odd. >> >>> # pass in ipv6 pings. no ipv6 with keep state option allowed >>> pass in log quick proto icmp6 all=20 >> Are you logging advertisements based on that?=C3=82=C2=A0 If you don't= see them, >> you probably need to figure out what's up with your gateway device. > > Yes I see router advertisements logged in the ipf.log file. > > =C2=A0fe80::1 -> ff02::1 PR icmpv6 len 40 104 icmpv6 routeradvert/0 IN > multicast > > Get this log line 2222 times per minute Interesting.=C2=A0 That's orders of magnitude higher frequency than I'd expect per RFC 4861, unless you have a vast network with many nodes soliciting RAs.=C2=A0 I'd actually have to sniff networks around here bef= ore I could say more--I've honestly never worried about the frequency of RAs.= > > I also see the blocked inbound icmpv6 neighborsolicit packets that get > logged by the default block all rule for inbound traffic. > >> >> As a quick check, you can also override the routing table with the -g >> option to ping6. > > The ipv6 address auto assigned to the vtnet0 is what is considered as > the default route. Am I understanding this correctly? ??=C2=A0 I don't think so.=C2=A0 If you want to talk to the Internet from= your machine via vtnet0, vtnet0 has an address and on the same network there is a router with a different address in the same network.=C2=A0 The route= r's address would be configured as the default gateway on your machine.=C2=A0= In the case of ipv6, there are frequently multiple sets of addresses on the same physical/virtual network.=C2=A0 In your case 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:1 and 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 are both addresses on your machine and there *may* be an address also in 2600:3c02::/64=C2=A0 on your router that would work as the gateway. fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 is the link local address (completely non-routable) on your machine associated with vtnet0, which should be able to use fe80::1, which you know exists as that's what your router is using as a source address. See https://blogs.infoblox.com/ipv6-coe/fe80-1-is-a-perfectly-valid-ipv6-defa= ult-gateway-address/ about the background regarding using fe80::1 as a default route. ---------a bit more rummaging in your configs and actually thinking a bit------------- Oh....... =C2=A0 DOH! So all the above is true except for my not having a clue as to why the gateway portion of incoming RAs is ignored.=C2=A0 You might find some of = it useful anyway. > ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6=3D"inet6 accept_rtadv" > gateway_enable=3D"YES" > ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES"=20 The last line sets your FreeBSD machine up as a router.=C2=A0 If a device= is a router, it completely ignores, by design, routing information from incoming RAs. So I think your two primary choices are to, if you don't need the FreeBSD machine to route ipv6, remove the ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" and if you do want the machine to route, explicitly set a default gateway= ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::1" Either should give you a usable routing table. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms010305080500050401060604 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC C9owggXmMIIDzqADAgECAhBqm+E4O/8ra58B1dm4p1JWMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBDAUAMIGFMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxm b3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDErMCkGA1UEAxMiQ09NT0RPIFJTQSBD ZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw0xMzAxMTAwMDAwMDBaFw0yODAxMDkyMzU5NTla MIGXMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQH 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list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 02:25:27 -0000 In the end I deleted https://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.1 from /us/src = completly (.svn folder including) and i download the new sources like this = doas svn co https://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/12 /usr/src/ I made my custom config and i could compile it and install it sucessfully. Resume: i'm using freebsd 12.1 stable and i compiled /base/stable/12 source= s. That's the perfect combination. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Monday, July 6, 2020 9:16 AM, Juan Cuzmar via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello! Thanks for response. > I've checked my local sources and is updated > % svn log -l 10 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------- > > r361973 | gordon | 2020-06-09 12:15:07 -0400 (Tue, 09 Jun 2020) | 5 lines > > Add UPDATING entries and bump version. > > Approved by: so > Approved by: re (implicit) > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.1/?view=3Dlog > > I wonder if I'm in the right branch or repo. > > Clearly the problem is about the indentation of the code. I don't know if= there's any way to get around that constraint. > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original = Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > On Monday, July 6, 2020 2:06 AM, Michael Schuster michaelsprivate@gmail.c= om wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:42 PM Juan Cuzmar via freebsd-questions freeb= sd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > Im trying to compile my custom kernel but shows me this error: > > > --- mrsas_cam.o --- > > > cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.1 --sysroot=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/am= d64.amd64/tmp -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -c -O2 -pipe -fno-= strict-aliasing -march=3Dnative -g -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/= sys/contrib/ck/include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNE= L_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-le= af-frame-pointer -MD -MF.depend.mrsas_cam.o -MTmrsas_cam.o -fdebug-prefix-m= ap=3D./machine=3D/usr/src/sys/amd64/include -fdebug-prefix-map=3D./x86=3D/u= sr/src/sys/x86/include -mcmodel=3Dkernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -m= soft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-p= rotector -gdwarf-2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-protot= ypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-= sign -D__printf__=3Dfreebsd_kprintf -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-sh= ow-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-error-tautological-compare -Wno-error-e= mpty-body -Wno-error-parentheses-equality -Wno-error-unused-function -Wno-e= rror-pointer-sign -Wno-error-shift-negative-value -Wno-address-of-packed-me= mber -mno-aes -mno-avx -std=3Diso9899:1999 -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/m= rsas_cam.c > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1919:4: error: misleading indentat= ion; statement is not part of the previous 'if' [-Werror,-Wmisleading-inden= tation] > > > if (mpt_cmd->ccb_ptr->cpi.bus_id =3D=3D bus_id && > > > ^ > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/mrsas/mrsas_cam.c:1916:3: note: previous statement i= s here > > > if (bus_id =3D=3D 1) > > > ^ > > > > a quick check in the latest current sources (AFAICT) doesn't show anyth= ing obvious (no, I didn't build) - so either I'm missing it too, or perhaps= you need to update your sources and retry. > > > > HTH > > Michael > > > > ------------ > > > > Michael Schuster > > http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ > > recursion, n: see 'recursion' > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 11 11:28:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2327F35F723; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3nhb1Ynyz3XJY; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.57.51] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1juDfg-00078v-Ag; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:27:56 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 06BBRtU2004175 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:27:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id 06BBRtRT004174; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:27:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:27:55 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: bugzilla messages about issues related to freebsd-ports, freebsd-multimedia, ... Message-ID: <20200711112755.GA3908@c720-r342378> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r342378 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.57.51 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B3nhb1Ynyz3XJY X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of guru@unixarea.de has no SPF policy when checking 178.254.4.101) smtp.mailfrom=guru@unixarea.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.87 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[guru@unixarea.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[188.174.57.51:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.4.0/24, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[178.254.4.101:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.28)[-0.284]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.16)[0.160]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixarea.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.05)[0.052]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[178.254.4.101:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:28:00 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm subscribed to a bunch of mailings list, for example freebsd-multimedia@ and freebsd-ports@, to ask there from time a question or to follow discussion on topics I'm interested in. And this is exactly for what the mailing-lists are designed for, if you check in the mailman server their purpose: About freebsd-ports Discussions concerning FreeBSD's "ports collection" (/usr/ports), proposed ports, modifications to ports collection infrastructure and general coordination efforts. About freebsd-multimedia This is a forum about multimedia applications using FreeBSD. Discussion center around multimedia applications, their installation, their development and their support within FreeBSD There is nothing written about "... and for Cc issues from bugzilla". What I do not like and do not understand why this was introduced, that the issue tracker bugzilla copies comments etc. in the issues to the mailing-list and spams the lists with this (an example is below). This way I get every day some hundred mails. Why is this intention? Can it be changed? To whom I should direct this complain? matthias ----- Forwarded message from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org ----- Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:47:05 +0000 =46rom: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 247873] multimedia/ffmpeg: SVT patches are broken at fetch https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D247873 --- Comment #6 from Jan Beich --- Cannot be fixed (without a lot of churn) yet because SVT-VP9 upstream introduced an incompatible change *before* fixing compatibility with SVT-AV1 v0.8.4. Unfortunately, after bug 246789 it's not possible to sacrifice only SVTVP9 option. https://github.com/OpenVisualCloud/SVT-VP9/issues/124 --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176= -38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: =D0=A1=D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8=CC=81=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B2= =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8! 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This > > way I get every day some hundred mails. > > > > Why is this intention? Can it be changed? To whom I should direct this > > complain? > > > > matthias > > .... > > > That happens -- at least in the case of multimedia/ffmpeg -- because: > > g1-55(13.0-C)[4] awk -F = '$1 == "MAINTAINER"' /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/Makefile > MAINTAINER= multimedia@FreeBSD.org > > So it's merely notification to the listed "maintainer" of the port. I know, and then the question is: why as MAINTAINER a full discussion(!) mailing list is used? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators! 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When there is no maintainer the most relevant mailing list is used, which, I suppose, serves to attract the attention of a pool of possible maintainers. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 11 18:42:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5281136D21E for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3zKk2ndbz4Q7H for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id 6so7066453qtt.0 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WxgrpXQN5R7nflQZQrwxEODeQQkUNbHlb+uHPza0+7w=; b=CHb90sqTf3AmxJgHI+Hu61gt0g1JCx6HrO45i1biVHqjYwviRRNSGBXrTZfsOoYsoq Nuo4WqeBmUUZu2lKoSY/hIUkzXLmYwAnU+Kd/CTtc9D+cg6wZlVPrSgho5UMNRx3+SCS 59ym88KQ04JqTzVfA8qK8AbFLCP7V9CR4vxmWSIWSMK/HOZS/ClsPrju7omB7XxJu7rs wUKgENrfgY4WrmiHzd54XgHKtbyZRvsOTcRIBnIInDnIEv8v03o+fD20ytKr0owsXfkA v7tuniqXpxiV1fM73tQy7RYe9rDqkpLboFk4c78x1rca3Qkh5VvC6av8l+9FXLfNY4IV b50w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WxgrpXQN5R7nflQZQrwxEODeQQkUNbHlb+uHPza0+7w=; b=RDE/a2ncfBlE8jF/PIVe+4l5iPnzUmvBWil9RTDythXNYk0EZexMvQ62D4o+LpDhBs PbG7ZpatnplomMNiESemLG9bx5W0889cp6P4luZ22g8cAaw7+jS4jxy+nmPkcUZWzOqS wlU0mLwuMQyqlSzcPDslpWmHiAj4G9sNrUoAtq4HXYoI5FUIYJ7eFDXFcpWft1EjnDqi Lrs1lszn5hY1Qht8O/0hVhI4DK5I/zoSTvKGzbRBVuoZiamAuHoxgdBeVeZDXbzzPSZD i8cXUMh5jM4l33NBUX/ELz5W69b70DNhGCEnXuZctK1w13YAc7Vb766gM2wt4ybKD0yz 3zTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533gnUZLkPh3LKfJe+cUzUTlu/JwAM11AaqZSoK5e32rbp675MYD /Mhi93xJegMyspWQ4X+V9c4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyIZFtZOiudBYwGbm5fkWTpoV3H4Oo4bMqymUqliLq4nnc6QeXpWz1aoaNgw/sS2q/1PQOTXQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:748b:: with SMTP id v11mr5342119qtq.293.1594492937304; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.8] (cpe-65-25-51-0.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.51.0]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a25sm12368431qtk.40.2020.07.11.11.42.16 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5F0A0808.9070802@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:42:16 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble setting up ipv6 References: <5F088CAE.2090400@gmail.com> <5F08A3BA.8060401@gmail.com> <5F08D889.8080708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B3zKk2ndbz4Q7H X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CHb90sqT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luzar722@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::831 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luzar722@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.84 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.80)[-0.802]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[65.25.51.0:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.020]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.019]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::831:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:42:19 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > On 7/10/20 17:07, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Jon Radel wrote: >>> On 7/10/20 13:22, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> snip >>> Notable largely for the complete lack of a default route. >>> >>> Consider setting your gateway explicitly instead of depending on router >>> advertisements: >>> >>> ipv6_defaultrouter="2600:3c02::dead:dead:dead:beef" >> Put this ipv6_defaultrouter= in rc.conf? > > > Yes. The address fe80::1 should work, as you report that below as the > link local address of the equipment identifying itself as a local router. > > >>> or whatever that address is. Otherwise you'll need to figure out >>> what's >>> broken with router advertisements on your network. My quick read of >>> your ipf.rules file leads me to believe that you're allowing icmp6 >>> router advertisements in >> Let me put into my own words what I think your are saying. >> 1. That the standard inbound icmpv6 routeradvert is suppose to auto >> populate the host internal ipv6 default router ipv6 address. > Yes. Mostly. By default. There are, ways to turn things off. > https://blogs.infoblox.com/ipv6-coe/why-you-must-use-icmpv6-router-advertisements-ras/ > is a fairly nice description. >> 2. That the inbound icmpv6 routeradvert my host is receiving from my >> ISP is incomplete or being incorrectly populated by my ISP. > > Maybe. Now I that I look over your config again, it appears that you're > getting your ipv6 address just fine via Routing Advertisement (RA).... > so why aren't you getting a default gateway address? I haven't a clue. > [But see below for a correction to this.] > > But I will note that unless you connect to your ISP with only a L2 > bridge and have no L3 router of any type, the RA would be generated on a > local router. > >> 3. There are also icmp6 neighborsolicit in bound packets that are not >> being passed by the same rule that passes the inbound icmpv6 >> routeradvert packets but get blocked by the default block all rule. I >> am thinking this is a un-reported bug in ipfilter. > It does sound odd. >>>> # pass in ipv6 pings. no ipv6 with keep state option allowed >>>> pass in log quick proto icmp6 all >>> Are you logging advertisements based on that? If you don't see them, >>> you probably need to figure out what's up with your gateway device. >> Yes I see router advertisements logged in the ipf.log file. >> >> fe80::1 -> ff02::1 PR icmpv6 len 40 104 icmpv6 routeradvert/0 IN >> multicast >> >> Get this log line 2222 times per minute > Interesting. That's orders of magnitude higher frequency than I'd > expect per RFC 4861, unless you have a vast network with many nodes > soliciting RAs. I'd actually have to sniff networks around here before > I could say more--I've honestly never worried about the frequency of RAs. >> I also see the blocked inbound icmpv6 neighborsolicit packets that get >> logged by the default block all rule for inbound traffic. >> >>> As a quick check, you can also override the routing table with the -g >>> option to ping6. >> The ipv6 address auto assigned to the vtnet0 is what is considered as >> the default route. Am I understanding this correctly? > > ?? I don't think so. If you want to talk to the Internet from your > machine via vtnet0, vtnet0 has an address and on the same network there > is a router with a different address in the same network. The router's > address would be configured as the default gateway on your machine. In > the case of ipv6, there are frequently multiple sets of addresses on the > same physical/virtual network. In your case > > 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:1 and 2600:3c02::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 are both > addresses on your machine and there *may* be an address also in > 2600:3c02::/64 on your router that would work as the gateway. > > fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 is the link local address (completely > non-routable) on your machine associated with vtnet0, which should be > able to use fe80::1, which you know exists as that's what your router is > using as a source address. > > See > https://blogs.infoblox.com/ipv6-coe/fe80-1-is-a-perfectly-valid-ipv6-default-gateway-address/ > about the background regarding using fe80::1 as a default route. > > ---------a bit more rummaging in your configs and actually thinking a > bit------------- > > Oh....... DOH! > > So all the above is true except for my not having a clue as to why the > gateway portion of incoming RAs is ignored. You might find some of it > useful anyway. > >> ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6="inet6 accept_rtadv" >> gateway_enable="YES" >> ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > The last line sets your FreeBSD machine up as a router. If a device is > a router, it completely ignores, by design, routing information from > incoming RAs. > > So I think your two primary choices are to, if you don't need the > FreeBSD machine to route ipv6, remove the > > ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > > and if you do want the machine to route, explicitly set a default gateway > > ipv6_defaultrouter="fe80::1" > > Either should give you a usable routing table. > > > First I want to thank you for the effort you have already put in about helping me with setting ipv6 on my equipment. You have pointed out some questions that I can't answer because I don't know enough about how ipv6 works. I am going to need your advice about how to configure my host but first you will need more information about my current environment. I am running RELEASE 12.1-p6 on a virtual machine that is used for development. This vm configuration is pretty much a clone of the production system I am responsible to maintain. The production system is running 12.1-p6 on real hardware using only ipv4 addresses. This production system has many non-vnet jails and a few vnet jails that use the bridge/epair method with private ipv6 addresses that get NATed by the ipf firewall NAT service. All the jails have public internet access. There is also a cabled/wifi LAN behind the gateway host. This current environment has been running for 10+ years now. Qjail is used to create and administrate the non-vnet jails. The vnet jails are defined in jail.conf and use the native "service jail" command for start/stop/restart. Ipv6 has been available for 2 years now and with the current pandemic there is time to add ipv6 support to the production system first working out the details using the development vm system. Now about ipv6. It's my understanding that the gateway host primary interface connects to the ISP and through them to the public internet gets automatically assigned a static/permanent ipv6 address by just having this statement in the hosts rc.conf. ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6="inet6 accept_rtadv" vtnet0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu options=6c07bb ether f2:3c:92:bc:54:37 inet6 fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet xx.xx.xx.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xx.xx.xx.255 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T status: active nd6 options=23 fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 is what is called the ipv6 prefix Now this is about the end of my ipv6 knowledge. In general terms I think what I need to do is be able to assign ipv6 address on my host using a format that is static/permanent and can be entered into the domain AAA record to drive public internet traffic directly to the desired non-vnet and vnet jails. I know how to assign ipv6 addresses to non-vnet and vnet jails. If possible doing this without needing ra icmp6 packets. I need ipv6 address for the LAN NIC, each non-vnet jail, the bridge0 and each vnet jails epairXb interface just like I have now for ipv4. Also I read that ipv6-icmp can be used to break into the host or interrupt ipv6 service, must have protection against such a thing happening. My host is the front door to my environment and is also the end of the line. This is were I am requesting your advice on how to configure this. I think the host needs a ipv6 router service because without one I was not able to ping6 anything. 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RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.020]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.017]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[radel.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[radel.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.08)[-0.077]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22773, ipnet:70.184.240.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 20:22:44 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070401080209020805050604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US >>> ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6=3D"inet6 accept_rtadv" >>> gateway_enable=3D"YES" >>> ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES"=20 >> The last line sets your FreeBSD machine up as a router.=C2=A0 If a dev= ice is >> a router, it completely ignores, by design, routing information from >> incoming RAs. >> >> So I think your two primary choices are to, if you don't need the >> FreeBSD machine to route ipv6, remove the >> >> ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" >> >> and if you do want the machine to route, explicitly set a default >> gateway >> >> ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::1" >> >> Either should give you a usable routing table. >> >> >> Your followup makes clear that you want to route ipv6 traffic on your host, so ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::1" would almost certainly be worth putting in your rc.conf. You could ping6 fe80::1 before changing anything; as a sanity check.=A0=A0 Based on other things you've sent, that should work fine. That may be all you need. > > > The production system is running 12.1-p6 on real hardware using only > ipv4 addresses. This production system has many non-vnet jails and a > few vnet jails that use the bridge/epair method with private ipv6 > addresses that get NATed by the ipf firewall NAT service. All the > jails have public internet access. There is also a cabled/wifi LAN > behind the gateway host. This current environment has been running for > 10+ years now. Qjail is used to create and administrate the non-vnet > jails. The vnet jails are defined in jail.conf and use the native > "service jail" command for start/stop/restart. Personally, I'd avoid private ipv6 addresses entirely if you mean addresses in fd00::/8 or fec0::/10, and use only public addresses.=A0 Assuming your ISP hasn't done something obnoxious such as giving you a single /64 and you're not subject to local NAT=3D=3Dsecurity rules. > > Ipv6 has been available for 2 years now and with the current pandemic > there is time to add ipv6 support to the production system first > working out the details using the development vm system. I can only imagine you mean that ipv6 transit has been provided by your ISP for 2 years.=A0 ipv6 itself has been loose in the wild for a lot longer than that. > > Now about ipv6. It's my understanding that the gateway host primary > interface connects to the ISP and through them to the public internet > gets automatically assigned a static/permanent ipv6 address by just > having this statement in the hosts rc.conf. > ifconfig_vtnet0_ipv6=3D"inet6 accept_rtadv" Could well be.=A0 Ask your ISP what they actually do, but that would be a= standard and dull way of doing it. > > vtnet0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 > mtu > options=3D6c07bb TSO4,TSO6,LRO,VLAN_HWTSO,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ether f2:3c:92:bc:54:37 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 inet6 fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 prefixlen = 64 scopeid 0x1 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 inet xx.xx.xx.x netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xx.x= x.xx.255 > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 status: active > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 nd6 options=3D23 > > fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 is what is called the ipv6 prefix Nope.=A0 That's an ipv6 address.=A0 It's a link-local address associated with the vtnet0 interface, to be precise.=A0 Link-local addresses in fe80::/10 are valid only on a single LAN or link and are completely non-routable.=A0 That's why FreeBSD reports it as fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437%vtnet0 -- it's only valid on vtnet0.=A0 The machine could also have a fe80::f03c:92ff:febc:5437 address on another interface, but the addresses wouldn't actually have anything to do with each other.=A0 Normally, these addresses happen automatically and allow the interface to talk locally, which you don't want to break.=A0 These should always happen automatically by default once you turn on ipv6, and you really don't want to break them if you want to do ipv6 at all. One big thing you have to get used to with ipv6 is that your interfaces will almost certainly have many addresses. However, my suggestion is, assuming an ample supply of addresses from your ISP (it'd be nice if they gave you at least a /56), is that you explicitly assign a public /64 to every LAN you have and then explicitly and statically assign addresses to every device acting as a router and every device acting as server.=A0 Personally, I find life easier and less= confusing if devices I need to put in DNS or routing tables have addresses more along the lines of 2600:3c02::1, 2600:3c02::2, etc. If Linode is giving you a single /64, or a single virtual server with a single address in a shared /64, then life becomes more complicated and outside the scope of this discussion. > > > Now this is about the end of my ipv6 knowledge. There are plenty of tutorials out there. > > > > This is were I am requesting your advice on how to configure this. I > think the host needs a ipv6 router service because without one I was > not able to ping6 anything. > Yes, it does sound like you want to route.=A0=A0 And maintain your firewa= ll with care. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms070401080209020805050604 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC C9owggXmMIIDzqADAgECAhBqm+E4O/8ra58B1dm4p1JWMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBDAUAMIGFMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxm b3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDErMCkGA1UEAxMiQ09NT0RPIFJTQSBD ZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw0xMzAxMTAwMDAwMDBaFw0yODAxMDkyMzU5NTla MIGXMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQH EwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDE9MDsGA1UEAxM0Q09NT0RP 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