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Date:      Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:20:04 -0800 (PST)
From:      patl@phoenix.volant.org
To:        Kenneth Ingham <ingham@i-pi.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cause of NetBIOS-NS requests from outside
Message-ID:  <ML-3.3.909620404.495.patl@asimov>
In-Reply-To: <19981028171202.A4585@i-pi.com>

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> On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:01:35PM -0800, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote:
> > I've recently started logging more of the packets which are denied
> > by my filters.  Since then, I've noticed occasional bursts of UDP
> > packets aimed at the NetBIOS-NS port (137) on my primary server.
> > 
> > Is this more likely to be M$ brain-damage, or an attempted probe
> > by some script-kiddie?
> 
> M$ brain-damage.
> 
> I worked with one of the people who was bouncing off of my firewall one
> time.  If you are using WINS for anything, it tries to use it for
> everything.  I now ignore them, and really should tell the firewall to
> not even log them.

So it's probably trying to contact my DNS server via NetBIOS-NS
protocol?  I can easily understand how any local M$ machines
could be sending these packets to my servers; but what has me
puzzled is why an outside machine would try to contact my server
for WINS info.

This doesn't seem to be any real threat; and since it is much
more likely to be M$ brain-damage, I'll probably add a filter
rule to explicitly deny them without logging.  But I would like
to have a better understanding of the underlying reasons.  (That
is, reasons more specific than 'M$ is completely clueless'.)


-Pat

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