From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jan 6 14:57:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA25757 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ra.dkuug.dk (ra.dkuug.dk [193.88.44.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25740 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 14:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([193.88.44.194]) by ra.dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA04014 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:55:12 +0100 Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA04773; Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:53:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard) cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If you want to see a FreeBSD magazine, please respond to this one! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jan 1996 14:21:18 PST." <199601062221.OAA05502@violet.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 23:53:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4771.820968834@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > ... > unknown market. We know because we did it with Linux Journal. FreeBSD, > NETBSD, etc need to be able to show potential advertisers what the > magazine will do for them or they need to find someone who has a pile of > money and thinks blowing $20,000-$50,000/issue would be fun. One of the reasons I have not responded to any of this, is that the handfull of issues I have seen of the Linux Journal were not the kind of stuff I would even consider reading if it were to be sent to me for free. I think there would be much more value to the FreeBSD cause by doing something along the lines of "The Simple Times" (R.I.P) which was published by making the .ps and .txt files available on the net and via email lists. What we need is an editor who wants to spearhead this and make it look at least somewhat sensible from a graphical point of view. I will happily help gather and produce some interesting material, and I'm pretty sure we could guarantee at least one good article per issue with some real stuff in it, rather than the "ls for experts (5/9)" drivel LJ is so full of. If we want to accept ads, then I think we get more value for the money if they go to the FreeBSD Project than to actually print the magazine and pay for a staff of typographers. Well, just my personal position on this... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so.