From owner-freebsd-java Wed Oct 30 8:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB8D37B401 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay1.cris.net (relay1.cris.net [212.110.128.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3131843E9E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@phantom.cris.net) Received: from phantom.cris.net (root@phantom.cris.net [212.110.130.74]) by relay1.cris.net (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g9UJoavR027465; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:36 GMT (envelope-from phantom@phantom.cris.net) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by phantom.cris.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) id g9UGstq4053235; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:55 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Nate Williams Cc: Greg Lewis , Mikhail Kruk , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wake up call for Sun? Message-ID: <20021030185455.C52982@phantom.cris.net> References: <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com> <20021030151812.A30986@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20021030182502.A52856@phantom.cris.net> <15808.1927.423109.796378@emerger.yogotech.com> <20021030184124.A52982@phantom.cris.net> <15808.2804.430278.803110@emerger.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15808.2804.430278.803110@emerger.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:38:12AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:38:12AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > * Only after 5.x-RELEASE become real and stable release (not early than > > > > 6 months from now, per current estimates) > > > > > > I'm guessing that something like the JDK would be a great way to wring > > > out the bits, so the sooner someone starts working on porting the JDK to > > > using it, the quicker the bugs will get found and fixed. I doubt > > > anything would be as good at testing the code than the JDK. :) :) > > > > Sure. I also doubt that there's something more complex to test than JDK. :-] > > > > At least not being Sun Engeneer and not having access to design > > and other documentation, as well as testing methodics, etc :-( > > IMO, it's not as difficult as *some* would lead you to believe. It's my personal opinion. Since until now I am only person who's working on debuging & fixing problems in HotSpot 1.4, it was easy for me to believe :-) I already hit few times into situations when fixing a bug or making workaround is not fixing real bug, but hiding it. So, it will reapear in other place later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message