From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 10:16:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FE416A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:16:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from insomnia.benzedrine.cx (insomnia.benzedrine.cx [62.65.145.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844DD43D2D for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhartmei@insomnia.benzedrine.cx) Received: from insomnia.benzedrine.cx (dhartmei@localhost [127.0.0.1]) j28AGY89013749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:16:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dhartmei@localhost) by insomnia.benzedrine.cx (8.13.3/8.12.10/Submit) id j28AGXxO025027; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:16:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:16:33 +0100 From: Daniel Hartmeier To: Charles Sprickman Message-ID: <20050308101633.GC26999@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> References: <20050305024850.GA96307@wjv.com> <20050307090802.GR26999@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> <20050307204825.GY26999@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x and OS-X tcp performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:16:43 -0000 On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 02:04:20AM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > http://home.manymonkeys.com/tcpdump/ > Observing this showed that the os-x to fbsd transfer went at about 200KB/s > and the os-x to obsd transfer went at about 2.6MB/s. In the osx-fbsd case we see the same problem again. This time we have both the client's and server's view, which confirms the theory. Server's view: 07:43:46.916089 client 4195626636:4195628084(1448) 07:43:46.916325 client 4195628084:4195629532(1448) 07:43:46.916431 server ack 4195629532 win 5792 [ 4195629532:4195630980(1448) lost ] 07:43:46.916525 client 4195630980:4195632428(1448) 07:43:46.916594 client 4195632428:4195633876(1448) 07:43:46.916618 server ack 4195629532 win 6576 07:43:46.916667 server ack 4195629532 win 6576 07:43:46.916982 client 4195633876:4195635324(1448) 07:43:46.917051 server ack 4195629532 win 7240 07:43:46.917322 server ack 4195629532 win 10672 07:43:46.917583 client 4195635324:4195636772(1448) 07:43:46.917653 server ack 4195629532 win 12720 07:43:46.917858 client 4195636772:4195638220(1448) 07:43:46.917927 server ack 4195629532 win 14768 07:43:46.917977 client 4195638220:4195639668(1448) 07:43:46.918019 server ack 4195629532 win 14768 07:43:46.918192 client 4195639668:4195641116(1448) 07:43:46.918250 server ack 4195629532 win 16816 07:43:46.918460 client 4195641116:4195642564(1448) 07:43:46.918526 server ack 4195629532 win 18864 07:43:46.918578 client 4195642564:4195644012(1448) 07:43:46.918620 server ack 4195629532 win 18864 07:43:46.918773 client 4195644012:4195645460(1448) 07:43:46.918824 server ack 4195629532 win 20912 07:43:46.919074 client 4195645460:4195646908(1448) 07:43:46.919150 server ack 4195629532 win 22960 07:43:46.919192 client 4195646908:4195648356(1448) 07:43:46.919240 server ack 4195629532 win 22960 07:43:46.919506 server ack 4195629532 win 26032 07:43:46.919743 server ack 4195629532 win 29104 07:43:46.920027 server ack 4195629532 win 32176 07:43:46.920246 server ack 4195629532 win 35248 07:43:46.920528 server ack 4195629532 win 38320 07:43:46.920797 server ack 4195629532 win 41392 07:43:46.921097 server ack 4195629532 win 44464 07:43:46.921325 server ack 4195629532 win 47536 07:43:46.921612 server ack 4195629532 win 50608 07:43:46.921866 server ack 4195629532 win 53680 07:43:46.923727 server ack 4195629532 win 56752 07:43:46.993124 client ack on control connection [ 1s later ] 07:43:47.963778 client 4195629532:4195630980(1448) [ this is the missing segment retransmitted ] 07:43:47.963989 server ack 4195648356 win 39096 [ fully ack'd again ] 07:43:47.964301 server ack 4195648356 win 42168 07:43:47.964517 server ack 4195648356 win 45240 07:43:47.964570 client 4195648356:4195649804(1448) [ fine again ] Client's view: 07:43:46.792191 client 4195626636:4195628084(1448) 07:43:46.792199 client 4195628084:4195629532(1448) 07:43:46.792203 client 4195629532:4195630980(1448) [ this is lost ] 07:43:46.792608 server ack 4195626636 win 7424 07:43:46.792617 client 4195630980:4195632428(1448) 07:43:46.792622 client 4195632428:4195633876(1448) 07:43:46.793186 server ack 4195629532 win 5792 07:43:46.793203 client 4195633876:4195635324(1448) 07:43:46.793357 server ack 4195629532 win 6576 07:43:46.793478 server ack 4195629532 win 6576 07:43:46.793789 server ack 4195629532 win 7240 07:43:46.793799 client 4195635324:4195636772(1448) 07:43:46.794058 server ack 4195629532 win 10672 07:43:46.794067 client 4195636772:4195638220(1448) 07:43:46.794071 client 4195638220:4195639668(1448) 07:43:46.794394 server ack 4195629532 win 12720 07:43:46.794405 client 4195639668:4195641116(1448) 07:43:46.794665 server ack 4195629532 win 14768 07:43:46.794675 client 4195641116:4195642564(1448) 07:43:46.794679 client 4195642564:4195644012(1448) 07:43:46.794788 server ack 4195629532 win 14768 07:43:46.794988 server ack 4195629532 win 16816 07:43:46.794997 client 4195644012:4195645460(1448) 07:43:46.795269 server ack 4195629532 win 18864 07:43:46.795284 client 4195645460:4195646908(1448) 07:43:46.795289 client 4195646908:4195648356(1448) 07:43:46.795396 server ack 4195629532 win 18864 07:43:46.795561 server ack 4195629532 win 20912 07:43:46.795893 server ack 4195629532 win 22960 07:43:46.796014 server ack 4195629532 win 22960 07:43:46.796244 server ack 4195629532 win 26032 07:43:46.796482 server ack 4195629532 win 29104 07:43:46.796763 server ack 4195629532 win 32176 07:43:46.796982 server ack 4195629532 win 35248 07:43:46.797271 server ack 4195629532 win 38320 07:43:46.797543 server ack 4195629532 win 41392 07:43:46.797837 server ack 4195629532 win 44464 07:43:46.798061 server ack 4195629532 win 47536 07:43:46.798370 server ack 4195629532 win 50608 07:43:46.798605 server ack 4195629532 win 53680 07:43:46.800482 server ack 4195629532 win 56752 07:43:46.869732 client ack on control connection [ 1s ] 07:43:47.839990 client 4195629532:4195630980(1448) [ retransmitting lost segment ] 07:43:47.840744 server ack 4195648356 win 39096 [ fully ack'd again ] 07:43:47.840794 client 4195648356:4195649804(1448) 07:43:47.840799 client 4195649804:4195651252(1448) 07:43:47.841044 server ack 4195648356 win 42168 07:43:47.841264 server ack 4195648356 win 45240 [ fine again ] So, only one packet was lost in this part, the 4195629532:4195630980(1448) segment from client to server. This single lost packet caused an entire second of stalling. Let's look at how much loss there is in the osx-fbsd connection: $ tcpdump -nvvvtttSr tcpdump.fbsd-osx | grep '192.168.0.40.60859 > 192.168.0.6.50154' | grep -v '(0)' | cut -d ' ' -f 8 >segs_sent_fbsd $ tcpdump -nvvvtttSr tcpdump.osx-fbsd | grep '192.168.0.40.60859 > 192.168.0.6.50154' | grep -v '(0)' | cut -d ' ' -f 8 >segs_recv_fbsd $ wc -l segs_sent_fbsd 1192 segs_sent_fbsd $ wc -l segs_recv_fbsd 1177 segs_recv_fbsd 15 packets lost out of 1177 sent -> 1.27% loss (8.621s for 1.7MB -> 201.8 KB/s) Trying to locate a similar problem in the osx-obsd case we don't find one, because there is no loss at all: $ tcpdump -nvvvtttSr tcpdump.osx-obsd | grep '192.168.0.40.60892 > 192.168.0.1.62496' | grep -v '(0)' | cut -d ' ' -f 8 >segs_sent_obsd $ tcpdump -nvvvtttSr tcpdump.obsd-osx | grep '192.168.0.40.60892 > 192.168.0.1.62496' | grep -v '(0)' | cut -d ' ' -f 8 >segs_recv_obsd $ wc -l segs_sent_obsd 1171 segs_sent_obsd $ wc -l segs_recv_obsd 1171 segs_recv_obsd 0 packets lost out of 1171 sent -> 0.00% loss (0.423s for 1.7MB -> 4.01 MB/s) Also, no ACKs are lost in either connection. So, there's two questions: a) Why is there packet loss in the osx-fbsd case but not in the osx-obsd case? This could indeed be a networking problem like duplex or an issue with the fbsd NIC driver (assuming the fault is in fbsd because the same client has no issue with another server). b) Is it expected that 1.27% packet loss in such a TCP connection reduces the throughput so dramatically? I don't think it should, the OS X client should retransmit earlier. Again the stalling is accounted for completely by the loss and retransmits: $ diff -u segs_sent_fbsd segs_recv_fbsd | grep '^-' -4195629532:4195630980(1448) -4195658492:4195659940(1448) -4195662836:4195664284(1448) -4195819220:4195820668(1448) -4195949540:4195950988(1448) -4195959676:4195961124(1448) -4196081308:4196082756(1448) -4196084204:4196085652(1448) -4196091444:4196092892(1448) -4196210180:4196211628(1448) -4196475164:4196476612(1448) -4196576524:4196577972(1448) -4196737252:4196738700(1448) -4196867572:4196869020(1448) -4196877708:4196879156(1448) 4195629532:4195630980(1448) 07:43:46.869732 - 07:43:47.839990 = 0.96s 4195658492:4195659940(1448) 07:43:47.845530 - 07:43:49.340046 = 1.49s 4195662836:4195664284(1448) 07:43:49.340769 4195819220:4195820668(1448) 07:43:49.361194 4195949540:4195950988(1448) 07:43:49.388882 - 07:43:50.840161 = 1.45s 4195959676:4195961124(1448) 07:43:49.383787 4196081308:4196082756(1448) 07:43:50.861454 - 07:43:52.340202 = 1.48s 4196084204:4196085652(1448) 07:43:52.340935 4196091444:4196092892(1448) 07:43:52.341543 4196210180:4196211628(1448) 07:43:52.357681 4196475164:4196476612(1448) 07:43:52.401159 4196576524:4196577972(1448) 07:43:52.427754 - 07:43:53.840338 = 1.41s 4196737252:4196738700(1448) 07:43:53.862330 4196867572:4196869020(1448) 07:43:53.890180 - 07:43:55.340416 = 1.45s 4196877708:4196879156(1448) 07:43:55.341186 Total time stalled 8.24s, total transfer time 8.621 Can someone confirm whether this is perfectly normal or looks like a problem in the client (OS X)? Daniel