From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 6 14:14:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035D216A412 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B4043D53 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:14:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net ([12.207.12.9]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20061006141438m9200dnmt8e>; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:14:38 +0000 Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k96EEaY9003681; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:14:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id k96EEZOu003680; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:14:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:14:34 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Greg Black Message-ID: <20061006141434.GC1271@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20061005151925.GA1156@FS.denninger.net> <20061005190822.GA15547@icarus.home.lan> <20061005202144.GA11105@FS.denninger.net> <20061005210447.GA82687@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20061006000956.GC2473@FS.denninger.net> <20061006002234.GC82687@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for a serial port card you can actually BUY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:14:40 -0000 --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 11:33:13AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > On 2006-10-05, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 07:09:56PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:04:47PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:21:44PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > > FreeBSD's USB support has always been somewhat deficient. For ex= ample, > > > > > apcupsd can't talk to their UPSs over the USB bus, even though th= e software > > > > > itself knows how, because FreeBSD doesn't know what a UPS is and = throws up > > > > > its hands when you plug it in. > > > >=20 > > > > This is false for at least the APC SmartUPS the machine I'm sending= this > > > > from is connected to. I wouldn't be suprised if it was true once, = but > > > > it isn't today. > > > >=20 > > > > ugen0: American Power Conversion Smart-UPS 750 FW:651.12.D USB FW:4= =2E2, rev 1.10/0.06, addr 2 > > >=20 > > > Does apcupsd connect to it? I tried this back on 5.x and it failed > > > miserably. It identified the unit, but wouldn't talk to it. > >=20 > > Yes. I get notifications of power failures and can query status. >=20 > I don't know what you guys are doing right, but it doesn't work > right for me on >=20 > $ uname -srm > FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE amd64 >=20 > I do get some results: this is the console when it's connected: >=20 > ugen1: American Power Conversion Smart-UPS 750 FW:651.12.I USB FW:7.3= , rev 1.10/0.06, addr 6 >=20 > I find that apcaccess gives much less info from the USB port > than it does from the RS232 port (on the same hardware) and > apctest (which I want to use to set eprom values) doesn't work > at all. This is very irritating, as I'd like to use my only > serial port for a remote console. >=20 > For now, I've gone back to using the serial port. But I'd love > the USB to work fully. I don't seem to need the other features. This is not a FreeBSD issue since FreeBSD just knows enough to not try to do anything to the device, it's an apcupsd issue or possibly a weakness in APCs USB implementation. -- Brooks --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFJmTKXY6L6fI4GtQRAvo+AKCHqQTpC9vs2t7x8wdFsyfhYVxWAwCgoOTy kD7MZL9CohTFdP7AZUlpNrU= =yfQ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai--