From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 25 18: 3:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (adsl-63-195-85-27.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.85.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3BC37B405 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zardoc.esmtp.org (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAQ23Gxg013122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ca@localhost) by zardoc.esmtp.org (8.12.2.Beta1/8.12.1/Submit) id fAQ23GiU003077 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:03:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:03:16 -0800 From: Claus Assmann To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: patch for /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc to disable submission (close port 587) Message-ID: <20011125180316.A21092@zardoc.esmtp.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011126000211.A27034@jochem.dyndns.org> <20011125160446.B3967@zardoc.esmtp.org> <20011126012116.A49715@jochem.dyndns.org> <20011125164341.A22232@zardoc.esmtp.org> <20011126021743.A49942@jochem.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20011126021743.A49942@jochem.dyndns.org>; from j.kossen@home.nl on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 02:17:43AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 26, 2001, Jochem Kossen wrote: > > Many people don't read documentation. Just check the amount of > > questions "Why is port 587 open?" in comp.mail.sendmail. > > Then you should document it more clearly. Put a link on the website > between

tags that says "Click here to find the anser on how to > use the MSA feature" or something like that. And we do this for everything or just the MSA? Sorry, but it should be obvious that this doesn't work. It doesn't even work for the "TOP 5" of the sendmail FAQ. 8.10.0 had more than 1000 lines just in the RELEASE_NOTES. > ^^ that's from the release notes. It doesn't say _why_ it is enabled by > default.. The RELEASE_NOTES document the changes between versions. > OK, but it should be FreeBSD's choice wether or not to enable it. Aside > from that, i think it's fine to support the MSA, but i don't think it > should be enabled by default. Some OS distributions don't run sendmail as a daemon at all. > Right, the pressure worked. But for the MSA thing, i don't see a lot of > pressure coming from sendmail's direction... If you tell us what else we should do (in addition to what I wrote), we'll consider it. > I do think the MSA is a good thing, i just don't like it being enabled > by default. I think it's only useful for people who know what it is, and > how it works. Therefore, i still think it should be disabled by default > on FreeBSD. Ok, we agree to disagree... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message