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Date:      Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:48:13 -0500
From:      Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mark Murray <markm@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Adding standalone RSA code
Message-ID:  <20041210084813.3adab69b@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <200412101014.iBAAEict086798@grovel.grondar.org>
References:  <41B96772.4010000@wadham.ox.ac.uk> <200412101014.iBAAEict086798@grovel.grondar.org>

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:14:44 +0000
Mark Murray <markm@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Colin Percival writes:
> > Mark Murray wrote:
> > > Colin Percival writes:
> > >>I was comparing /usr/lib/libcrypto.a (1.7 MB on my system) to the sum
> > >>of the sizes of the object files built from my library code (38 kB).
> > >>
> > >>If you look at the number of lines of C files (counted using `wc -l`
> > >>since I don't want to bother installing sloccount), my code is 1489
> > >>lines compared to openssl's 202982 lines.
> > > 
> > > Do you have a version of your code linked against OpenSSL? What is the 
> > > size difference between a static link of your code vs a static link 
> > > against OpenSSL?
> > 
> > I don't have a version using openssl, but my key generation program
> > (statically linked against my crypto code) is 37kB, while a program
> > which calls RSA_generate_key (statically linked against openssl) is
> > 240kB.  So even under the most favourable conditions (adding overhead
> > to my code but not to openssl) it's a size ratio of more than 6.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I must profess to having a degree of discomfort with duplicated
> functionality.

See, right here I can agree.

> 
> 240k is not a big binary, and it sounds like your applet is one that
> may get heavy use. Its not built for speed; how much of a problem is
> this? If OpenSSL grows hardware BigNum support, your app will not
> benefit; how will this affect the user? Is size really a concern?
> I can't find a disk smaller than 10 GB at my local dealer.

Now with this last one, I think you're being a little difficult,
Mark.  Not to be rude, of course, if I come off as such I'm sorry.

Either way, I think what Colin is proposing is a good idea.

-- 
Tom Rhodes



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