From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 7 17: 5: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49B3637B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 92230 invoked by uid 100); 8 Aug 2001 00:05:00 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15216.33324.9869.833842@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:05:00 -0500 To: Bob Willcox Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How did the MSFT monopoly start? In-Reply-To: <20010807183116.D53464@luke.immure.com> References: <20010806142544.A64348@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15214.52633.581653.632317@guru.mired.org> <20010807145112.C39962@luke.immure.com> <15216.25797.153039.786261@guru.mired.org> <20010807183116.D53464@luke.immure.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob Willcox types: > Never saw that one. Certainly this attitude persists today vis-a-vis > Microsoft. I get that attitude here in the startup company I work for > now (and I am one of the co-founders). If you use Windows and it breaks > its not your fault. On the other hand, demand to use FreeBSD and if it > fails you're in for it. I don't think that's an IBM/MS thing, I think it's standard for support folks. You can't support everything that anyone can drag in, so people who want to use tools you don't support have to do it themselves. > Well, to me anyway, coming from an IBM mainframe background, my first > IBM-PC with only 128KB of memory and two 160KB diskette drives seemed > pretty bleak. It wasn't till I could get a hard disk on it (probably in > the '85 time frame) that it seemed like a useful computer to me. My CP/M-80 box from that era - 256K of ram and a pair of 320K drives - did things the IBM mainframe I had access to couldn't do. Ditto for the Unix and the VMS system I was using then. Mostly, it was that my box was mine, so I could install all the tools I needed. The institutional systems weren't mine, so while the tools they had were better than I those I could afford, none of them had all the tools I needed. Things haven't really changed in that respect, it's just that my tools are now *much* better than they used to be. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message