From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 4 17:15:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FE116A4CE for ; Tue, 4 May 2004 17:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446EC43D41 for ; Tue, 4 May 2004 17:15:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BC796141DF; Tue, 4 May 2004 19:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 19:15:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon X-X-Sender: linimon@pancho To: Joe Rhett In-Reply-To: <20040504235754.GA8@isite.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 May 2004 05:06:07 -0700 cc: current@freebsd.org cc: =?unknown-8bit?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Subject: Re: Updated SATA support patches for Intel ICH & Promise cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 00:15:16 -0000 > It sounds very much like you're putting your ego far, far in front > of functional code. I think you should go back and read the history of the work that Soren has done before you criticize him. I am not at all surprised that he has a large number of patches in the queue due to the amount of work that he puts in on ATA (mostly unheralded). There is certainly plenty of work to go around in this area, but no doubt needs careful coordination due to the complexity of the work involved -- it has seemed, in the past, that seemingly-trivial changes break old, brain-damaged, ATA hardware. Please, folks, let's try to work together on these really hard problems, and respect that fact that coordinating lots of changes are always going to require extra work -- but it will get FreeBSD a lot further along towards its goals in the long run. mcl