From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 28 18:34:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3638D16A41F for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:34:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A4E43D46 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:34:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.50.41.234] (Not Verified[10.50.41.234]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:51:05 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: babkin@users.sourceforge.net Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:35:40 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <12768156.1130520253107.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> In-Reply-To: <12768156.1130520253107.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510281435.41700.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Gordon Bergling , phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wscons for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:34:19 -0000 On Friday 28 October 2005 01:24 pm, Sergey Babkin wrote: > >From: John Baldwin > > > >> Things that are personally crucial to me: > >> * Speed. (syscons is lightning fast) > >> * text mode mouse cursor with cut/paste that Just Works. > >> * cursor movement control code compatibility. No less than perfect > >> compatibility is good enough! The cons25 termcap entry has to work. > > > > * truly supports framebuffers as well as displays that can render text > > directly (i.e. VGA, EGA, etc.) > > * allows displays, keyboards, and mice to be tied together in arbitrary > > combinations such that each "console" can consist of zero-or-more > > displays, keyboards, and mice with well-defined behavior for what > > state is shared vs. private when multiple objects of the same class > > are connected to a single console. > > And by default connects all the keyboards/mice to > the first console. This makes the installs on > the machines with USB-only keyboard transparent. Yes. > * When entering panic/debugger mode the console > should reset its video mode to the one where > the panic information is visible. I think this might be kind of hard since you really don't know what X has done to the hardware unless you make X talk to the console driver to do everything. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org