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Date:      Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:42 -0600
From:      Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: are we CRIMINALS?
Message-ID:  <6453DAA1532FE742E7057C08@utd59514.utdallas.edu>
In-Reply-To: <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCAEFACFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCAEFACFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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--On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 21:57:22 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt 
<tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:25 AM
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: are we CRIMINALS?
>>
>>
>> --On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 13:03:27 +0100 Wojciech Puchar
>> <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351
>> >
>> > jest first step to criminalize unix at all
>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>> We aren't criminals, but *he* is.
>>
>
> Paul, you do realize that Sierra is a known newsgroup spammer and
> that the lawsuit in question was just filed against a spamfighter
> by a spammer?
>

Yes.

> Also, that the "judgement" that is in the post is actually
> a prepared order, written by Plaintiff's counsel, it wasn't
> written by the judge.
>

Yes.

> This case is sitting in the appellate courts somewhere, gathering
> dust.  Nobody has paid anything to anybody, except to the lawyers.
> Sierra makes their money selling to morons what Google gives
> out for free.
>
> Please, unless your willing to do the research, don't waste
> time commenting.
>

He disobeyed a court order.  That makes him a criminal.  Whether what he was 
trying to do was "right" or not is irrelevant.  Once the court told him to 
stop, he should have stopped.

And yes, I know full well that bad people take advantage of our courts every 
day.

-- 
Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/




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