Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:08:40 -0800 From: "Chris H." <chris#@1command.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available Message-ID: <20080301050840.e3udpuz2cksw484s@webmail.1command.com> In-Reply-To: <1204371709.47c940fdd7a81@imp.free.fr> References: <1204151575.84335.3.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <1204310983.47c853c70577d@imp.free.fr> <47C89B18.8010803@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20080301011750.3paot6klcw4ko04o@webmail.1command.com> <1204371709.47c940fdd7a81@imp.free.fr>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
Quoting gregoryd.freebsd@free.fr: > Quoting "Chris H." <chris#@1command.com>: > >> BSD is /different/. Which is /not/ bad, just /different/. :) > > Never said it was bad (on the *very* contrary) > Been using it for a little more than 10 years now: would I have been if I had > thought otherwise ? ;-) > >> * choose net/cvsup-without-gui > > no longer needed: csup is readily available ! (and works perfectly) > >> cvsup -g -L 2 /root/stable-supfile > > That needs an internet access which, precisely, I lack in my office ! > > >> In any event you're now in a position to build/install >> anything the BSD ports system has to offer. While this /may/ >> seem like a long process, it's not. It's very quick. In fact >> it /is/ faster than the Linux GUI install process - I just >> performed one the other day. Then blew it away and replaced >> it with a fresh copy of RELENG_7. :) > > I *really* have nothing against the installer UI (to tell the truth, > I'd rather > it not be changed, however modern the desktopbsd installer may have seemed to > me, I definitely prefer the "old" one) > > The problem I pinpoint is this: for people without internet access once they > have downloaded the whole CD set, having to swap CDs during install *so many > times* is a real PITA. It might prove a deterrent for would-be new users. > And also, it is not up to the good work that went in the OS proper, and > documentation and all. > > > Of course had I the opportunity, I would go with the way I do *at > home* where I > have an xDSL link: boot-only CD and making ports (or packages, depending on > available time). Precisely what you described. > But without an internet connection it is just not possible. > > > Now, thinking over yesterday's experience: maybe I should have grabbed the > boot-only CD and burnt a DVD with packages, and then establish a kind of > "repository" with those. > Then again, it would consume precious network bandwidth (desktop is > for remote > administering...) if I wanted to make it available to colleagues. > > > Bottom line: I think the installer needs a fix in how to handle package > installation when spanning several CDs. > It's an opinion, though. Based on (a bad) experience, but still an opinion... > > I'm aware CDs are still indispensable, since many machines are not > equipped with > DVD drives. But couldn't we imagine a desktop oriented release on DVD (which > would be the exact same as the CD set, maybe only with more packages to take > advantage of the supplementary space available) ? (if fixing the installer > swapping thing is too much trouble) Hello gregory, All valid points. I guess I've been using "fat pipes" for so long I forget their not /always/ available. :) I'll venture an install from mounted ISO image(s) tutorial. It overcomes all those issues with "not having a fast connection to the internet woes". (assuming you can get the ISO images - but then again, you wouldn't have a CD if you couldn't get the ISO's would you). But I'm not up to it right now. I'll save it for another posting. Best wishes. --Chris H > > > gregory > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- panic: kernel trap (ignored)
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20080301050840.e3udpuz2cksw484s>