From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 3 7: 1:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (cc449817-a.mrtnz1.ga.home.com [24.12.79.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DC537B41A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03F1gC65748; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:01:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3C347256.3990CC69@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:01:42 -0500 From: Sam Drinkard Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nils Holland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printing Question References: <3C339CDA.C74F940A@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20020103111011.A1591@tisys.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Nils, Well, it just seems kind of like beating around the bush to have to go thru all the print gyrations to get a pcl output. I realize apsfilter works, and works quite well, as I use it, but if you happen to have a printer not supported by apsfilter, then what does one do? The whole thougt was geared towards the direction that *BSD and Linux are headed, at least IMHO, and that is to be a "desktop appliance". I remember when I started out with Interactive Unix, it was small, simple, and for many things broken, but if you look at the big picture, FreeBSD is nowhere near what it was a few years ago. So much cruft added that people want.. like a splash screen, various other sundry utilities, and so forth. Look at all the window managers.. tons of garbage on top of tons of garbage, applets, etc.. sorta like windoze. However, this is what people want, I suppose, otherwise the folks writing the code wouldn't put it in. Not to mention all the different kinds of human devices. Not meant to be degrading to the OS whatsoever.. just some thoughts that I felt needed to be questioned. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message