From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 09:08:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4591B37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263D543F93 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (electron.centtech.com [204.177.173.173]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h37G8556027767; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:08:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3E91A265.1020906@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:08:05 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gregory A. Gilliss" References: <20030407153600.GA51613@netpublishing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Look what a mess I made (was Brilliant and very useful...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 16:08:07 -0000 Gregory A. Gilliss wrote: > Happy Monday. > > I've lurked a while in the hope that my initial topic would come around > again...finally. The following excerpt makes my point for me: > > >>I somewhat disagree - most people use computers as a tool, and don't >>care to learn all the ins and outs of the os. Now, I personally want to >>know what is going on in the os, but my (for instance and example again) >>wife doesn't care. She doesn't care how it got to the point it is at, >>just as long as she can get what she needs to done. > > > Thanx to Eric Andersen who "got it". > [..snip..] > The point - the reason that I thought that this article has value - > is that the FreeBSD community doesn't - dare I say it - pander - to > the user community. We act like the intelligencia of *NIX - > AND IT IS COSTING US THE USER BASE. > > Good tools require no instruction. That was the point, not the rest of > this didactic cruft. Now, all I need is to figure out how to tweak sysinstall and add some "newbie" features that "do it all".. maybe a committer that knows the sysinstall gunk will see this.. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching? ------------------------------------------------------------------