From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 09:58:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8E6106566C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ermal.luci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB438FC0C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so3289256iae.13 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pPX5RHUgySNFwcgvoSeR/uOUbsNvQ7sH5BVvqravkOU=; b=ZP+k7n5tTvIViF6cU64rlBDrFs5hZbhGbtQDjYtdfndv2MP/XHzSM9Qz98gIN+PvXM BYsIiWHbeIcs+M1qI7JPlKnrR9rfFoyIQwzoKrG7UeoqBHLxKpOaRUrBFTEYGJ+IKnFg HO9PmZcXCG/Lhl7g5r4DSJY/qKdMCcUFGDnkM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.189.194 with SMTP id gk2mr6402772igc.0.1327658282610; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:58:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: ermal.luci@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.134.198 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:58:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612E69663C6@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> References: <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612A5BC03A9@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> <20120126235543.GA38187@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612E69663C6@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:58:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eV5eiTDok-_fmXuoFyRqm33_x94 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= To: Greg Hennessy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-pf@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Getting Involved X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:58:03 -0000 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Greg Hennessy wro= te: > Hi Peter, > > That doesn't sound unreasonable, bearing in mind how much we all $ENJOY u= sing the operating system precisely because the interfaces are defined and = stable between major releases. > I would not have expected PF 4.7 and above to be backported. > > Reading between the lines of earlier posts I was getting the impression t= hat in case of PF it had been decided to set the 4.5 version of PF in stone= for now and ever more in FreeBSD. > Could be the wrong end of the stick on my part though. Thinking from an concurreny context, the latest version in OpenBSD is 'easier' to adapt. Less critical datastructure to teach about concurrency... Though the real issue with the later versions is that the guys are just, almost, 'embedding' pf(4) into OpenBSD kinda ipfw(4) used to be in the old days on FreeBSD. > ________________________________________ > From: owner-freebsd-pf@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-pf@freebsd.org] On Beha= lf Of Peter Jeremy [peterjeremy@acm.org] > Sent: 27 January 2012 10:55 > To: Walt Elam > Cc: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Getting Involved > > [SNIP] > > The whole problem is that the new syntax is not backward compatible > with the old syntax. =A0There has recently been a fairly long thread in > -hackers discussing (in part) the need for long-term stability of > interfaces. =A0The FreeBSD Project offers interface stability within > major versions, therefore an incompatible change in PF syntax could > not be introduced into any FreeBSD-9 or earlier branch. > > It would seem a reasonable goal to port pf 4.7 (or later) into -current > so it will form part of 10.x but I can't see it appearing in 9.x. > > -- > Peter Jeremy_______________________________________________ > freebsd-pf@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-pf > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-pf-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Ermal