From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 10 8: 2:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91DE137B403 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2113 invoked by uid 100); 10 Oct 2001 14:36:08 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15300.23768.69743.202319@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:36:08 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Jasper O'Malley" , NGH , In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011009233632.04baa900@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011009224124.0447c830@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011009233632.04baa900@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 11:32 PM 10/9/2001, Jasper O'Malley wrote: > >You and I wish. IBM simply withdrew the proposal to include it in the > >latest revision of the ATA standard. Look for it to make a speedy comeback > >if SSSCA is passed. > Ah, but again, SSSCA won't pass. Legislating the design of software opens > the door for Congress to put constraints on the design of Windows.... Do > you think for one minute that Microsoft, with its lobbying megabucks, > would risk that just to satisfy a record company or two? While MicroSoft may have lobbying megabucks, so do the people pushing the bill - and they've been playing the game longer. The available evidence is that MS doesn't *care* what this will do to them. They already license lots of software, and ship systems that include software with software that has licensing requirements that encroach on the design of software. The software vendors who'll really be hurt are the *small* ones, to whom the licensing fees won't be trivial. It will probably be most painfull for free software that it covers. In which case, MS is probably all for it. > >What exactly will "Hollings' foolish bill" do that will scare the "big > >corporations?" > See above. Also, large corporations that USE software know how much pain > copy protection would cost them. But the SSSCA doesn't *require* copy protection. It just requires support for it. For content, anyone large corporation that uses it tries to avoid stepping on the toes of other large corporations, so it wont make much difference there. For software - MS is already working as hard as they can to copy protect their software. A law that requires hardware manufacturers to provide the hooks they need? They should eat it up. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message