From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 23:32:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFA416A402 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5520213C448 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Apr 2007 23:05:23 -0000 Received: from dslb-084-061-160-113.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO kiste.my.domain) [84.61.160.113] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2007 01:05:23 +0200 X-Authenticated: #443188 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18bTiV1blMbEoiMOJGGC39ox4zfBqqoEKK9QRjslM vT/QVR0HGBp8yM From: Michael Nottebrock To: kde@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:05:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200704182205.52028.beni@brinckman.info> <200704191812.50545.lofi@freebsd.org> <200704192000.15405.groot@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200704192000.15405.groot@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1626658.NauqkRR83o"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200704200105.22646.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Adriaan de Groot , Robert Marella , Ganbold , Beni Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:32:07 -0000 --nextPart1626658.NauqkRR83o Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary-01=_vW/JGR5twygHbkX" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --Boundary-01=_vW/JGR5twygHbkX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I forwarded my mail to gnome@ (the HAL maintainers) after sending it and Jo= e=20 Marcus Clarke from gnome@ had this to say on the issue: =2D-- snip This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to the ATA device). =A0Assuming you have not undone that change, and are running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring. Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an issue in the kernel. =A0I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE. =A0n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao, and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work. =A0Not sure what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't. Joe =2D-- snip Beni, Robert, Ganbold, are you all in fact running the latest version of th= e=20 hal port and do you all have atapicam enabled in your kernel? If not, makin= g=20 sure of both might help avoiding the problem. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --Boundary-01=_vW/JGR5twygHbkX Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="forwarded message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Joe Marcus Clarke : Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock CC: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? References: <200704191822.28308.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200704191822.28308.lofi@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Length: 4979 X-UID: 18436 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > I forgot to cc gnome@ on my reply. I don't think this is a HAL bug, but just > FYI. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? > From: > Michael Nottebrock > Date: > Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:12:46 +0200 > To: > kde@freebsd.org > > To: > kde@freebsd.org > CC: > Beni , h.eichmann@gmx.de, current@freebsd.org, > stable@freebsd.org > > > On Wednesday, 18. April 2007, Beni wrote: >> Hi List, >> >> I think I have a problem with hal(d) and k3b (version 1.0 from ports) : my >> whole system freezes when starting up k3b. I get the splash screen and then >> it all stops and a ctrl-alt-del is the only way out. > > Other people have reported kernel panics. It looks to me like k3b's device > probing and hald's device probing at the same time manages to tickle a bug in > ata(4). > > Ref: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-April/070753.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-April/034486.html > > I'm afraid a true kernel hacker will have to inconvenince themselves with > running k3b and hal in order to have this one fixed. FWIW, I haven't seen in > happening on 5.5. This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to the ATA device). Assuming you have not undone that change, and are running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring. Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an issue in the kernel. I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE. n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao, and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work. Not sure what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't. Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome --Boundary-01=_vW/JGR5twygHbkX-- --nextPart1626658.NauqkRR83o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGJ/WvXhc68WspdLARAgfWAKCenYhtRkyIVQl3ETmOtLKxKc4H2wCfe5jD bsNlQROsncI+dP7RJuVkThM= =vK/+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1626658.NauqkRR83o--