From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Mar 17 4:32:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132E515565 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:32:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with SMTP id NAA23852; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:30:58 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <19990317085224.W429@lemis.com> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 2.4b2 X-URL: http://www.skynet.be x-sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:43:09 +0100 To: Greg Lehey , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Vinum questions? Message-Id: <19990317094309.032269@relay.skynet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 17, 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: >What was the problem? I don't know for sure. All I am sure that I know is that when I tried to disklabel the disks, it would let me see what they were, but not change anything. The suggestion was to go back to /stand/sysinstall and try going through parts of the installation process that were related to partitioning the affected disks and then putting a new filesystem on them, and I believe that the logic was that if I could get it to the point where I could put a filesystem on some partition other than the "c" partition, then I should be able to remove whatever I had created (changing the filesystem type back to "unused") and then re-use those partitions for vinum. >I am not going to "fix" it because there is nothing to fix. It is >WRONG to use partition c for data storage, and I go to some lengths to >ensure you can't. I'm sorry. I did not mean to imply that there was anything broken with not being able to use the "c" partition. I'm perfectly willing to accept that you are correct in this philosophy. My issue is a more technical one -- if the system won't let me create any new partitions on the drive, and the only partition that currently exists is the "c" partition, then I've got a problem that has to be resolved so that I can create other partitions. The suggestion that was made to me (and it seemed to work) was going back to /stand/sysinstall. >Correct. I'm trying to find out why you can't do that, but you need >to give me some details. I'm sorry. I wish I could give you more details than I already have. Unfortunately, we keep re-hashing the same details and you keep telling me that I'm not giving you any details. I'm not sure what more I can tell you. >Wrong. In order to create a file system, you need a partition of type >"4.2BSD". In order to create a vinum drive, you need a partition of >type "unused" or "vinum". This is an elementary protection against >wiping out data on the wrong disk, and it's described in vinum(8): I understand this. Once I could successfully create filesystems on the disks in question, I went back in with disklabel -er on each of the nine disks in question and I changed each and every one of them back to "unusued". I did read and understand that part of the FM. However, if I'm at a point where I can't even partition the disk, much less put filesystems on it, I'm certainly not going to be able to use the disk with vinum and I've probably got a deeper problem of some sort that needs to be solved. The easy solution is to try and fix things so that I can add new partitions to the disk, and put filesystems on those partitions. Once I can get to that stage, I can back out the filesystems I had put on the disk and re-use those partitions with vinum, right? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News/mail/FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Usenet is not the web. Just because the web handles some things poorly is not a good reason to apply those same solutions to Usenet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message