From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 18 8:45:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636D837B405 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.87.99.53]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010918154547.JCQF28026.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:45:47 +0000 Message-ID: <3BA779D3.D084C3F8@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:44:03 -0500 From: Gan Starling Reply-To: MisteraSturno@worldnet.att.net Organization: '97 Royal Star Tourdeluxe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-WNS5.0 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,tr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Broken packages in FreeBSD? -- KDE 2?, Gnome? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does the FreeBSD package system admit of known broken packages? NetBSD, it would seem, does not. Are there any converts there from NetBSD to FreeBSD who are able to tell me if the package system for FreeBSD is more honest about its degree of brokenness than is the package system for NetBSD? Is there at least ONE graphical desktop (either KDE or Gnome) that TOTALLY works on FreeBSD? My current experience with BSD has only been with NetBSD, and I am not too happy with it. I seem to have gotten what I paid for with NetBSD, but only because it is free. What about FreeBSD? I have wasted much time and effort on KDE2 for NetBSD. KMail at first works fine, but only until the first time anybody inserts from a file (using the "insert file" widget, no less) or until anybody does cut/paste with CTRL-C/CTRL-V. After that, KMail on NetBSD will crash...forever more, so that you may receive, but never again send, any mail. That bug exists in the NetBSD package for KDE1 and KDE2, and no documentation warns of it. So my effort to install and configure KDE, both 1 and 2, and my effort to upgrade NetBSD from 1.5 to 1.5.1...was totally wasted. The K archiver for NetBSD totally fails. I don't know what else fails, since these two were so discouraging that I have not looked much further into KDE2 on NetBSD. Is FreeBSD any better? Will I struggle in vain with undocumented problems in packages for FreeBSD? So far, my experience with BSD has been rather disappointing...but all with NetBSD. Will I be happier with FreeBSD? Do not any trolls answer, please. I only want facts. What graphical desktop TOTALLY works on FreeBSD? If there is a full-featured graphical desktop that TOTALLY works on FreeBSD, I would be convinced to switch away from NetBSD. If there is not any such, then I'll have to look into Linux. Regards, Gan Starling Kalamazoo MI 49001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message