From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 20:08:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59391065689 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8718FC13 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-21-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.21.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E0F16C003B; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:08:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m7OK8nTA002014; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:08:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:08:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthew Seaman Message-Id: <20080824220849.951eac35.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <48B1B4FA.3050601@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20080824140625.txre8xer6s0ggwww@webmail.secureserverdot.com> <48B1B4FA.3050601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pete , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTA advice ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:08:52 -0000 On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:34 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Running your own MTA is one of those sysadmin rights of passage. It's > unfortunate that the general levels of spam and other nastyness around > the net make it so much harder than it should be nowadays. Things that are nothing special, e. g. using your own mail server to deliver mails, is nearly impossible today if you're within an address range of a provider that gives you dynamic IPs. Spam and nastyness are usually problems generated by others (not by those who set up their own mailservers). So mails cannot be delivered. This hasn't been the situation in the past, but due to approx. 90% of the amount of mails being transferred being spam... you can imagine the reasons for this, but "the UNIX people" have to suffer from it, while the "don't care" crowd relies on someone else keeping the mail transfer infrastructure running... > Hmmm... Whether this is allowed or not depends very much on the ToS of > your supplier. Most big consumer ISPs won't let you run a mail server. > Most business ISPs will. There are suppliers who will host e-mail for > you, for a consideration. eg. www.gradwell.net -- a UK outfit so probably > not ideal for you, but a good example of what can be done. Another option is to forward outgoing mail to a MX of the ISP that is not on a blacklist. The sendmail service provides an easy means to achieve this: SMART_HOST. This does not cover incoming mail, of course. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...