From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 2 18:04:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7216A41F for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE27843D45 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:04:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id ADDED11EB1 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:04:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cochise.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.57]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 5F9A911EA4 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:04:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:07:01 -0600 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050802120701.47ca52c9.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <20050802173454.GF71672@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050731113709.73cead31.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20050802173454.GF71672@dragon.NUXI.org> Organization: Teamcool Networks X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: TYAN Transport TA26 (B2882) BIOS V3.03 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:04:39 -0000 On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:34:54 -0700 "David O'Brien" wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:37:09AM -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > Just noticed this at Tyan's website dated 07/08/05: > > TYAN Transport TA26 (B2882) BIOS V3.03: > > New features and Fixes : > .. > > * Implemented AMD recommend for if 4 or more DDR400 DIMM's are used, > > then the DDR speed is forced to DDR333 by default > ... > > Okay, it's the 4 or more DIMMS that caught my eye. Especially since on > > a previous occassion they had specifically recommended Opteron 246 or > > faster for use with DDR400. So now if I ugrade to the latest BIOS my > > 4x1GB sticks of DDR400 will be forced to run at DDR333 speeds. > > > > > > Fantastic!! Just what I always wanted. AMD ROCKS!! Market CPU's as > > supporting DDR400 then force us to run at DDR333 when you realize you > > screwed up! > > > > I suspect these docs are overly terse and this applies to double-sided, > double-stacked DIMM's, which put twice the load on the memory data bus > and thus load the memory data bus beyond AMD's specification for > pre-revision E Opteron CPU's. > > > And then there's the bank interleaving issue.... > > What is wrong with bank interleaving? No clues. I was getting ready to order a couple more of these puppies and happened to run across this whilst on Tyan's site: Just a terse listing of the issues the BIOS update addresses. There wern't any links to the referenced "AMD recommend". Alas, my current cpu's are pre rev. E (CG). I'm using Corsair 4 x 1GB ECC Reg. sticks of DDR400 ram. I've not seen any issues. Noticed a BIOS upgrade and since I usually keep my systems current on BIOS.... Didn't want to do this upgrade w/o further investigation though since I am not keen on forcing DDR333. Perhaps the "by default" means you can still change it in the BIOS. So I was just curious about what those more guru than I in the freebsd-amd64 camp might think. -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?