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Date:      Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:42:29 -0200
From:      "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" <lioux@uol.com.br>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, sobomax@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Package signing tools
Message-ID:  <20010101174229.C3416@Fedaykin.here>
In-Reply-To: <3A50D2B7.5AD86D9E@softweyr.com>; from wes@softweyr.com on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:55:29AM -0700
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On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:55:29AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:04:02AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> > > Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:34:37AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 12:13:45AM -0700, Wes Peters wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, it's a good idea, but this is really a simple standalone program.
> > > > > > It doesn't prevent you from pkg_add'ing something, you have to chose to
> > > > > > pkg_check it and see if the result is kosher.  It is at this time orthogonal
> > > > > > to pkg_version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Checking the signature should be automatic and part of pkg_add, which
> > > > > should refuse to add the package if it fails.
> > > >
> > > >         And, "smart users" should be allowed to bypass this if
> > > > they wish so. ;)
> > > >         Just like checksum. But, with scarier warnings.
> > >
> > > Right.  Should checking the signature be the default, with an option to
> > > skip it, or should it be optional to pkg_add?
> > 
> >         I think that it should be optional for now.
> >         We have an awful amount of non-signed packages floating
> > around the net. Then, with the next release comes (4.3R or whatever),
> > this should become the default.
> 
> I don't see pkg_add refusing to add an unsigned package, since as of yet
> no signed packages exist.  I can see telling the user the package is
> unsigned and asking if you want to continue, unless -f has been specified.
> 
> >         Unless, of course, that not-having a signature would be
> > considered all right for old packages (as a compability note).
> > Anything we could include in the packages aside of the signature
> > to allow us to identify them as "new" or "old"?
> 
> Don't sign them?  ;^)

	That's exactly what I had implied by "aside of the signature".
;-) Ain't we cute. Heheheh
	I would like a better way other than signature.
Or, another way besides it.
	There is always someone who can find a very valid
reason for a packet to be "new" and not signed. I am just asking,
we can always rule all non-signed "old".
	Is sobomax's plist info addition feaseble for that kind of
"version" detection?

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