From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 25 19:38:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA18494 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA18483 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:38:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 25614 invoked from network); 26 Dec 1997 03:37:48 -0000 Received: from piano.synapse.net (199.84.54.22) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 26 Dec 1997 03:37:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:37:48 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion Reply-To: Evan Champion To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: staylor@mrynet.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dropped from ALL freebsd lists?!? In-Reply-To: <199712260237.SAA15647@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > how am i to know its going to be one bad day? > how am i to notify you? cant do it by mail...... > i could try telephone, canada is much closer than > some subscribers, and whois does give me your phone number..... I think the problem here is that you're trying to do this manually, where it is much more difficult to work these things out. I think you need to look in to some list management software that can do it for you. When I used to run a 60K user mailing list (well, it was 30K at the time, and grew to 60K when the user moved), I used to do what you did. But even that was a lot of effort, so I moved to qmail+ezmlm, which does bounce management automagically. It will do things like see if you are bouncing for more than a certain number of days, then send a probe message to say that you'll be nuked if the probe isn't delivered, then a few days after you are unsubscribed you'll be sent another message saying that you were unsubscribed. It will also tell you which messages you missed etc. I don't mean to suggest that you move to qmail+ezmlm (though I run qmail myself and love it), but rather to indicate that there is a better way of doing things... As for subscribing people to a bounces list... Well, I don't particularly like that, because on top of subscribing to my mailing lists again, I also need to unsubscribe from the bounces list. I'd much rather just get a note a day or two after being unsubscribed. Anyway, I don't think this has much to do with freebsd-questions any more. Evan