From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 09:45:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F04510C64C7 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@trouble.is) Received: from weatherwax.trouble.is (weatherwax.trouble.is [IPv6:2a00:dd80:3c::62e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "weatherwax.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF898CD2D for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@trouble.is) Received: from rincewind.trouble.is (rincewind.trouble.is [88.198.44.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "rincewind.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by weatherwax.trouble.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42Qp0X278yz3C1F for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rincewind.trouble.is (Postfix, authenticated sender philip) id 42Qp0T5M2TzQqd; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:45:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trouble.is; s=20180707; t=1538646330; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=kfRFjChjt1hv8n4SK2CcfABqlVn4sGCvC6J1P9427W8=; b=kbmXTBh82ZWkHDM9LJEP8ghq4MXpJ5wbZsDp6u7vwnb0Zkfqe0bKmHG+xoSdz73LgsoDGO gp1jO7kI+AGUqAn7gum1kVOIuPbFTEVQB0qHkUZ+MCOYgpkDSQfDk7BaCdmyOu670MCwNi +YIBCMuPV0AttchobKERLDPvxHoBQXxtV7WpjHLIuJ3smh42s9ztI2Hq4tOGziz9tUg4dC jGd9bubQqoaMg/yY9v3V0sJzzxJ4zRlvf/2ZfBypIReq3ShTlcgzYbffFj8JaU+R6ehKXT LWpdIB6UapXFp1c7Z0RIpk4SAwKlTpWwGnmQVfJlPHkZDHbV1ljGeYWeLaWwtg== From: "Philip Paeps" To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 11:45:26 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-Mailer: MailMate (1.12r5533) Message-ID: <6DAC6D29-EBA7-439F-B18A-A982CD0118DA@trouble.is> In-Reply-To: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 09:45:33 -0000 On 2018-10-03 23:05:16 (+0200), Brooks Davis wrote: >>>> Please direct replies to freebsd-arch <<< > > FCP-01010 (https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md) > outlines a plan to deprecate most 10/100 Ethernet drivers in FreeBSD > 12 and remove them in FreeBSD 13 to reduce the burden of maintaining > and improving the network stack. We have discussed this within the > core team and intend to move forward as proposed. We are solictiting > feedback on the list of drivers to be excepted from removal. > > The current list of drivers slated for REMOVAL is: > > ae, bfe, bm, cs, dme, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, rl, sf, smc, sn, > ste, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe > > The current list of drivers that will STAY in the tree is: > > dc, ffec, fxpl, hme, le, sis, vr, xl ae is still popular in many cheap Asian laptops (Asus, Acer, etc). rl is still popular in many cheap PCI adapters. I've not encountered any of the others in a very long time. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Ministry of Information