From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 2 18:54:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467BB106564A for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1DA8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q62IslYT006057; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:54:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q62IslPf006054; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:54:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:54:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <201207021126.38116.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <201207021054.22814.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <201207021126.38116.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KMS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:54:48 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday, July 02, 2012 11:13:56 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >>> On Monday, July 02, 2012 10:16:43 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >>>> >>>> please correct me, if I misunderstood something about KMS . >>>> >>>> I built xorg-7.7 on FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 11 23:48:45 >>>> CEST 2 amd64 . >>>> >>>> When I do a plain >>>> # startx >>>> (no xorg.conf set) I receive >>>> >>> I do this: >>> >>> sudo kldload i915kms >>> sudo kldload acpi_call >>> sudo chmod 666 /dev/acpi >>> startx >> Actually this is my question: I cannot kldload these two modules >> because I don't have them. I believed I wouldn't need them since >> I don't have any Intel-chipset. Do I need them anyway? > > ok, then we need more information. What kind of machine do you have? CPU and GPU? > > To my knowledge, KMS needs an Intel i3, i5 or i7 to work. You cannot use KMS with all other CPUs. That doesn't sound right, although I have not yet tested it. It should only depend on the graphics chipset, not the processor, and some earlier GPUs should be supported. The wiki (http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU) says "Initial goal is to have gen4-gen6 (and gen7 AKA IvyBridge, when available) hardware support. Gen2 and gen3 will be best efforts. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA for the useful table with the information about the hardware, generations and marketing nicks." Generation four is GMA X3000, five and six are... not clear to me. Maybe X3500 and X4500. > You also do not need it if you have another GPU you want to use it in the system. Yes, or put another way, the Intel driver is the only one which has working KMS at present.